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From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 12:14:30 +0200
Subject: NeXTStep- sounds and graphics on PCI bus
Hi.
I really need:
1. Any information about sound service thru PCI bus.
2. Are there any drivers usefull for graphics on:
a) standard Hewlett-Packard Vectra XP/60 PC card;
b) PCI bus 64-bit MGA Ultima Plus card made by Matrox (HP Vectra XU standard configuration).
Thanks a lot.
Stanislaw Stefanowski staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
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From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 12:53:12 +0200
Subject: NeXTStep- 32-bit Ethernet card
Hi.
Is there any 32-bit Ethernet card working on PCI bus on the market?
Any directions to the companies selling it will be greatly appreciated.
Best regards
Stanislaw Stefanowski staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
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From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Subject: Dark MegaPixel Grey
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I have a MegaPixel monitor thats seems to be dark. I have it maxedout on the
keyboard.
Is there any hardware adjustment to make it brighter. This is with a 030
cube. If you
can help please e-mail or post a reply.
Thanks
Mark Pappas
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From: jdyer@ia.mc.xerox.com (John D Dyer)
Subject: Hard Drive heights for black hardware?
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Keywords: Drive Height Black
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:00:38 GMT
I'm looking for a new larger internal SCSI drive for
a Nextstation mono, and need to know the size of the
largest drive I can fit in the slab. I only intend
to have 1 hard drive in the slab. I know I'm limited
to 3.5" width, but what about height?
Also, does Full height=1", halfheight=0.5", thirdheight=0.33"
or do those terms mean something different.
Any help is appreciated
John Dyer
jdyer@ia.mc.xerox.com
From: levine@oclc.org (Eugene Levine)
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Subject: Re: Why not PAS16-SCSI?
Date: 23 Jun 1994 10:54:39 -0400
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References: <gwertzma.772317204@husc7.harvard.edu>
James Gwertzman (gwertzma@husc7.harvard.edu) wrote:
: I have my CD-ROM hooked up through a Proaudio spectrum 16
: sound card. That has a passable scsi port for cdrom's, though
: I wouldn't try using it for a harddrive. I have found scsi drivers for it
: for NT, for DOS, and for Linux. Yet everytime I try to find a NextStep
...
: or maybe, just maybe, someone out there has a PAS scsi driver?
: --
: James Gwertzman : It's all in my .plan
I too am interested as to why a driver for CD-ROM only cannot be written for
the PAS16. Driver folks???
-gene
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From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
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Subject: Diamond Stealth vs. #9GXE: which is faster under NS/I?
Date: 23 Jun 1994 08:51:12 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
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I'm about ready to buy a Pentium 90, and I need to pick a video card. Now
that NeXT has released drivers for Diamond Stealth 64 and #9GXE 64, the
video decision becomes harder.
If anyone has benched these cards under NS/I with a decent bench program,
I'd like to see the results.
.........................kris
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From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
Subject: Re: Why not PAS16-SCSI?
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:26:50 GMT
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It would be nice to have a driver for the PAS-SCSI2 card. The SCSI hardware
on the card is provided by Adaptec (has the EZ-SCSI BIOS and everything).
The only difference between that Adaptec hardware and the 154x is that you
cannot boot off of the PAS-SCSI2 card (not a huge problem). Most people
can get access to a "real" SCSI cd-rom for installation. After that they
should be able to use cheaper CD-ROM drives (Creative Labs, etc) for
CD access.
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From: mark@oa.guild.org (Mark Onyschuk)
Subject: Byte Benchmarks Dell Dimension XPS P90 [Intel]
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Organization: M. Onyschuk and Associates Inc., Toronto
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 07:18:17 GMT
Here are the results of running the Byte Unix Benchmark on a Dell
Dimension XPS P90 running NEXTSTEP. The disk interface used on the system
is Dell's PCI *IDE* rather than SCSI, which is more common with NEXTSTEP
systems.
By comparison, a NeXTstation monochrome 25 MHz model shows an average
performance of 1.0.
---8<---
BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11)
System -- localhost
Start Benchmark Run: Thu Jun 23 01:09:44 PDT 1994
2 interactive users.
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 133569.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Dhrystone 2 using register variables 133615.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 412396.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = register) 13522.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = short) 12557.8 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = int) 13522.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = long) 13519.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = float) 15854.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 15855.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
System Call Overhead Test 33070.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Pipe Throughput Test 13718.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 4380.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Process Creation Test 105.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
Execl Throughput Test 105.9 lps (9 secs, 6 samples)
File Read (10 seconds) 55414.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples)
File Write (10 seconds) 1800.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples)
File Copy (10 seconds) 1336.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples)
File Read (30 seconds) 55818.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples)
File Write (30 seconds) 1800.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples)
File Copy (30 seconds) 1339.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples)
C Compiler Test 70.1 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples)
Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 94.9 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples)
Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 48.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples)
Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 23.6 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples)
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 11.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples)
Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 2918.0 lpm (60 secs, 6 samples)
Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 2069.8 lps (10 secs, 6 samples)
/me/src/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/6714.dat
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 15855.5 5.9
Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 13519.4 4.8
Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 13522.6 4.7
C Compiler Test 24.1 70.1 2.9
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 133569.9 5.5
Execl Throughput Test 23.7 105.9 4.5
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 1339.0 2.6
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 55818.0 3.1
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1800.0 3.0
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 4380.4 3.8
Process Creation Test 34.0 105.9 3.1
Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 2069.8 6.4
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 11.0 2.9
=========
SUM of 13 items 53.1
AVERAGE 4.1
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Mark
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From: marko@r-node.io.org (Mark R. Onyschuk)
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Subject: Re: Byte Benchmarks Dell Dimension XPS P90 [Intel]
Date: 23 Jun 1994 17:04:12 GMT
Organization: Internex Online, Toronto, Ontario, Canada (416 363 3783)
Message-ID: <2ucfad$4i8@ionews.io.org>
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Mark Onyschuk (mark@oa.guild.org) wrote:
: Here are the results of running the Byte Unix Benchmark on a Dell
: Dimension XPS P90 running NEXTSTEP. The disk interface used on the system
: is Dell's PCI *IDE* rather than SCSI, which is more common with NEXTSTEP
: systems.
After having run this benchmark, I proceeded to try to change the video
selection inside Configure.app to something better than 640*480*2 :-)
But, I'm having a problem (sheepish grin). The machine has a Number9GXE
with the S3-*928* chipset on the PCI bus, and a more careful look at the
Compatability Guide states that this graphics adapter is said to work on
the VL bus, rather than PCI.
Here are the errors I receive on the Console at bootup, when not using the
config=Default switch:
Jun 23 [...]: Registering: Display0
Jun 23 [...]: About to receive 1291 bytes of VPCode!
Jun 23 [...]: Received 512 bytes of VPCode!
Jun 23 [...]: Received 512 bytes of VPCode!
Jun 23 [...]: Received 267 bytes of VPCode!
Jun 23 [...]: Display0: Selected mode is invalid.
Jun 23 [...]: Display0: IOVPCodeDisplay: Initialized.
Is there a fix for this problem?
Regards,
Mark
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From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps)
Subject: help with Quantum PD 1800S
Message-ID: <1994Jun23.170206.4270@cs.sfu.ca>
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:02:06 GMT
title says *most* of it - BuildDisk doesn't even get past initializing this
drive:
sd1: incomplete disk transfer: bytes moved=0x3f2, resid=0xd2, retry n....
(this drive was successfully used on a Mac)
I seem to remember a flurry of postings re: 1.8 GB drives, where is the faq?
and does it cover this "problem"
thanks
--Peter
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
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Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 23 Jun 1994 18:08:25 GMT
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In article <2uacig$2chh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>, john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) writes:
|>
|> What they're getting at is that the video processing is done by
|> the CPU, not by the accelerators on the video cards themselves. So,
|> if you have a faster CPU, then of course your video is faster as well,
|> providing you don't have to transfer a great deal over the bus.
|> If the video is hanging off the CPU like the cache, then you do
|> get a benefit from a faster porocessor.
This is true for any NextStep system with a reasonably fast channel to video,
be it VL, PCI, or anything else with similar throughput.
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From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
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Subject: Japan: sound-capable machines?
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 19:06:03 GMT
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Can anybody advise me on options for NEXTSTEP-compatible PCs in Japan?
I'm looking for something high-quality, with very good sound-support in
particular.
[Marty -- ready for the Pacific Rim yet?!]
Have fun,
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From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
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Subject: Re: Japan: sound-capable machines?
Date: 23 Jun 1994 20:20:11 GMT
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In article <940623200603.4324AACUI.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford"
<malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
> Can anybody advise me on options for NEXTSTEP-compatible PCs in Japan?
> I'm looking for something high-quality, with very good sound-support in
> particular.
> [Marty -- ready for the Pacific Rim yet?!]
>
NEC would probably be the best bet in Japan since that's where they're based
and I am sure they could be had for what one might consider a reasonable price.
Dave
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From: public@lucifer.alaska.edu (public)
Subject: Hayes fax modem driver
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Hi,
Does anyone know if there are any fax modem drivers available that will
work with the Hayes Accura 144 Fax Modem? The documentation for the modem
doesn't seem to give any indication of which interface protocol the modem
uses (Class 2 or whatever) and it doesn't seem to work with any of the
drivers that came with my system.
-Devin
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
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Subject: Re: Hard Drive heights for black hardware?
Date: 23 Jun 1994 20:17:34 GMT
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References: <1994Jun23.120038.8306@news.wrc.xerox.com>
In article <1994Jun23.120038.8306@news.wrc.xerox.com>
jdyer@ia.mc.xerox.com (John D Dyer) writes:
> I'm looking for a new larger internal SCSI drive for
> a Nextstation mono, and need to know the size of the
> largest drive I can fit in the slab. I only intend
> to have 1 hard drive in the slab. I know I'm limited
> to 3.5" width, but what about height?
3.5" half height is the biggest that will fit. No full height.
> Also, does Full height=1", halfheight=0.5", thirdheight=0.33"
> or do those terms mean something different.
third height means 1 inch high. Both terms are used for this size. The
larger drives are usually only referred to as half or full height.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: sewall@ee.ualberta.ca (Jeremy Sam Sewall)
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Subject: looking for modem or hayes ISDN extender
Date: 23 Jun 94 21:31:17 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <sewall.772407077@beaker>
I would like to get ahold of a Hayes ISDN extender for my
NeXT machine. An equivalent piece of hardware (providing one
exists) would be fine. I don't actually need the ISDN features,
but I do need a telephone line interface for doing answering machine
types of applications where the telephone line must be sampled.
I would also like a modem for my NeXT. If anyone knows of one that
is suitable, please let me know.
Thanks!
Jeremy Sewall
jsewall@trlabs.ca
From: thrash@sbctri.sbc.com (David R. Thrash)
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Subject: Re: DOS.fs Patch File - A Question
Date: 23 Jun 1994 22:31:59 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources Inc.
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References: <2u58pr$dq@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <2u58pr$dq@news.doit.wisc.edu> captain@arsenal.com (Andrew T.
Foster) writes:
>
[chomp]
> Are there any kind souls that have gotten this new patch and
> successfully mounted logical extended DOS partitions?
>
[comp]
Don't kill the messenger, but I always found this a humorous note, from the
fdisk man page:
fdisk knows nothing about logical partitions, which are
sub-partitions of an extended partition. Nor perhaps should
it, as these are gross kludges from the Evil OS Company of
the North.
Best of Luck,
drt
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
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Subject: Re: EATA ????
Date: 23 Jun 1994 09:53:24 +0100
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pphc@world.std.com (Pilgrim PHC) writes:
>I am trying to install NeXTSTEP 3.1 on a 486/66 DX2 EISA computer.
>I am using a DPT pm2022 SCSI controller.
>.
>After rescaning the SCSI Bus it gets hung at this point:
>EATA controller at irq 15
Are you sure you set your interrupt to "15 Edge" with ECU setup?
It does not work when level triggered.
Markus.
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From: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu (James Goes)
Subject: Looking for recommendations on NS/Intel systems (summary)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 19:06:58 GMT
Some time ago I posted the following message:
> I'm looking for informed opinions and advice about white
> (Intel-based) systems to run NS 3.2. I've read the FAQs
> and hardware compatibility guide, but am looking for
> more "soft" information based on users' experiences. I
> expect to have about $3000 to spend on a system, and would
> like that to include a color-ready system with CD-ROM,
> tape backup, a good size hard drive, and hopefully sound
> capability. I'm looking for something that will run
> NS3.2 out of the box with a minimum of hassle. Am I
> dreaming?
>
> Does anyone have any advice on system options I should
> seriously look at? Have Pentium systems generally been
> compatible or are there problems to consider. Has anyone
> had any experience with Gateway systems?
>
> I would appreciate any advice on brand, specifications,
> etc. that you can provide. Please respond by direct mail
> and I will summarize if there is interest. Thanks a bunch.
Several people asked for a summary of responses so here they are. Thanks to
everyone for their comments.
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:05:07 -0400
From: "Serge J. Goldstein" <serge@Princeton.EDU>
Please keep in mind that you need at least 24 Megs of RAM (and 32 would be
much, much better) to run a color NextStep system. You also need at least a
16inch monitor. If you put that together with your other requirements, I
think you're talking at least 4K, even for a homebrew system. Here's the
rough computation:
1 gig SCSI disk: $750
16inch monitor : $750
Graphics board: $250
Tape backup: $350
Sound: $100
32 Megs RAM: $1600
Total: $3800
And that's BEFORE you've even bough the motherboard, case, floppy, keyboard,
etc. Dropping down to a 14inch monitor will save you a few hundred, and a
500Meg disk will also save you a few hundred, so maybe you can squeeze in all
of the above for 3K, but that's about it.
Serge
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From: Andre Soto <asoto@styx.wsc.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:59:58 -0400
I am not sure what you can buy with $3000 but I do know one thing, if you buy
a Gateway you might as well invest in a gun. You want the gun to blow away
the Gateway you will have trouble working with.
- Andre
andre.soto@wsc.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:36:11 -0400
From: "Charles T. Finlay" <ctfinlay@lochnext.lerc.nasa.gov>
I am also currently looking for an NS/Intel box; and am not going to be at
the NeXTSTEP expo. If others provide you with reasonably priced systems,
please let me know. However, I can't imagine that you could put together a
satisfactory system with all the goodies that you mention for that price.
The minimal configuration with all but the tape from eCesys is ~$4000.
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:10:44 -0700
From: Graham Orndorff <gorndorf@mv.us.adobe.com>
Hi! I have done lots of looking at various NS PC's, however I am kind of
coming from a different angle. I wanted something to replace the NSColor
Turbo that I had.
This is a problem, because if I am going to spend lots of my own $$$ I want
it to be *lots* better than what I currently have.
Anyway what I found was most PC graphics suck, so the perceived speed of NS
is a lot slower even if you find a machine that is compute-faster.
50MHz 486 is about the same speed as Turbo, and 66 MHz is noticably faster,
but not enough for me to accept the shitty graphics, and not having control
of my floppy etc. So then I needed to look at Pentiums.
Basically I hated the Compaq they list in the Hardware compaitbility guide.
The DEC XL series I do like (especially if the rumours are true that they
will port to Alpha AXP). I was warned away from Gateway, but I didn't try it
myself.
I ended up getting an NEC Express II/P60 because it comes with the onboard
SCSI controller that makes I/O scream over any of the other Bus-Oriented
systems. Plus it comes with 3X speed CD-ROM and 2Meg Diamond-Viper PCI video
(which is okay...) This was direct from NEC with a price tag of $4708.00
(kind of expensive) -- plus this was without monitor/sound/network.
DEC may be a very good system for you too, and I think it is slightly less
expensive. However anything else that I looked at, made me just want to buy
a used NSTurboColor from the net.
-graham
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 15:21:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rey Chow <rchow@benfranklin.hnet.uci.edu>
I bought a Gateway 50 Mhz dx2 system last year for $4,000.
My estimate is that it cost me at least $40,000 in struggle
time during the eleven months in which it refused to
function. Every time you phone Gateway, you get a
different person and have to start over from ground zero
with assuring them that you don't have a virus,
explaining what the problem is, explaining what has
already been tried, etc. The system which was delivered
did not have all the facilities which had been quoted by
them in writing and which had been ordered by us on our
itemized purchase order. The system was defective in
manufacture in that the Turbo pushbutton proved to be
improperly installed and inoperative. The system was
falsely advertised as having two COM ports when in fact
one of the two ports was software-inactivated so as to
make the machine convenient as a game machine. The system
was incapable of doing anything, even running the
ScreenSaver, without generating multiple GPFs
(General Protection Faults). It was impossible to copy a
file larger than a half a meg with either of the floppy
ports, or to ftp such a file over the modem, without system
lockup and reboot. Over a period of eleven months Gateway
refused to take the machine back and insisted upon
sending replacement component after replacement
component. I cooperated with them in resetting the IRQ
interrupt signals time and time and time again. They
tried replacing the modem card. They tried replacing the
video memory. They tried replacing the video card. They
tried replacing the video software. They tried
replacing the power supply. They tried replacing the
hard drive. They tried replacing the motherboard
itself. None of this was with my concurrence, but they
pointed out that according to their contract which they
had unilaterally mailed to me with the machine, it was
_their_ exclusive decision as to whether to take the
machine back or not, and they said, they never give a
customer his money back. Nor do they acknowledge any
responsibility for customer files that are trashed by
such a no-op machine.
Finally, after replacing every single item inside the
case, they swapped out the machine with another machine.
Still at their option, their decision. Although the list
price had _declined_ in the intervening eleven months,
they kept the entire original $4,000 and issued no
partial credit.
I figure that in these months of struggle, for all the
times I have had the cover off the machine, for all the
hours I have spent attempting to recover munged files and
restore hard drives, this machine cost me at least
$40,000. I really do believe that I could substantiate
such a figure at a normative hourly rate for service work,
with a rigorously itemized invoice. They could care
less. Whenever they replaced a supposedly defective
component on this non-working, never-working PC with
another, supposedly rectifying component (trust me,
we've got it figured out this time), they would demand
that I return the defective component to them _at_ _my_
_expense_. In fact, for a period of time during this
struggle, they were telephoning me at dawn each morning,
demanding over and over again in these wakeup calls that I
share their cost of getting the machine, which was not
delivered as ordered, which was defectively
manufactured and falsely advertised, and which never
once worked, to work. They alleged that they were
repeatedly telephoning at dawn in order to make sure they
got me at home before I went out of the house....
It was a nightmare, despite the fact that I had all the
purchasing clout of the University of California System
behind me, and now our project is stuck with a year-old
machine that finally does work after its fashion but is
simply not the machine which we selected and ordered nor
available when we needed it, and for which we were forced
to pay _more_ _than_ _catalog_ _hardware_ _list_
_price_ after undergoing a most expensive
"maintenance" agony almost without end. But here's the
strange thing. I don't have any basis for supposing that
Gateway is in any way out of the usual for mailorder PC
houses, and I don't have any basis for saying that you'd be
better off with some other outfit. In fact I suspect that
the problems I ran into are systemic in nature, that this
is the sort of thing which is to be expected from American
busyness at this point in its evolution as a social
institution.
I'll pray you get a good PC, whoever you order from,
because if you happen not to get a good one, you are IMHO
gonna be shit outa luck, and I suggest that there's _not_
_one_ _thing_ you can do to ensure that when you open your
box you will have gotten a good one rather than a no-op.
\s\ Austin Meredith, "Stack of the Artist of Kouroo" Project
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From: Brian Gardenhire <bgardenh@dallas.bozell.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:34:41 -0500
This may be softer than you're looking for. I'm an end user at an ad agency
that has about 300 NeXT workstations. I'd estimate that one-third to
one-half of these are Intel-based machines. The one on my desk is, I
believe, a Unisys 486 running at 66 Mhz. I think there is some kind of
accelerator board also that helps Nextstep run at an acceptable speed. I
have no complaints. I like the color graphics better than the NeXT
hardware's gray scale. I have few problems but we have a full support staff
here to fix any.
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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:54:41 -0700
From: Ivo Welch <ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu>
It's an Intel GX/Pro, 486 DX2/66. On-board ATI Ultra Pro. on-board sound
(better than add-on boards under NS). on-board SCSI. 2 EISA slots, 1 ISA
slot. silent fans, low-height. (Much like the old NS/Color Turbo.)
As far as I understand, it is generally judged to be (among the) best 486
systems to run NS.
I wanted a Pentium instead for the numerical speed. As it turns out, I had to
switch to ISA in the process---and so my disk access speed went to about
half. So, I am not too happy about my new system.
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From: jbm@aiinet.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:09:41 -0400
I am using the Diamond Viper VLB in 1152x900, 5:5:5, it
just plain works. Believe what the hardware guide says:
color means 32M of RAM! NeXTSTEP is fast because it does
lots of backing store. You may want to chase after one of
the Intel DX4 based machines. There is no such thing as
enough disk space.
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From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:01:09
I don't think you're dreaming, especially if you're
willing to forgo Pentium for now. My best advice, coming
from a system bought and used for Windows for two years
before my recent acquisition of NeXTStep is in regards to
video cards:
The only, ONLY good one with a NeXT driver is the VL-Bus
Viper (or PCI). All of the other cards that NeXT supports
are slooooow to no end. Until NeXT starts supporting
Matrox or the new 64-bit ATI and Diamond cards, the Viper
is cheap, fast, 32-bit color at 800x600 (I use 16-bit at
1024x768). The driver must be downloaded from
NeXTAnswers, it doesn't come on the CD.
I have an Adaptec 1542C which NeXT just loves. My ProAudio
Spectrum works fine (though I'd have rather kept my older
SoundBlaster 16, which I thought was a better card), as
does my REALLY OLD Etherlink III card fom 3COM. I have 16MB
of ram, and need 16 more according to EVERYONE.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:26:13 GMT
From: Charles Ashley <charlesa@cosmos.learned.co.uk>
Rey's experience is reinforcing my inclination to buy an
HP Gecko running NS. Only buy a PC if you have to run
DOS/Windows or OS/2. I have an Intel GX running NS - and
does so quite nicely - but I can't be sure of the next Intel
box (whatever the manufacturer). What I paid for the GX I
could come very close to a Gecko. It's a question of
quality, consistency, and support. In sum: be careful.
This is a problem which affects the PC industry as a whole,
not just one OS or manufacturer.
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Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 08:46:49 EST
From: Mark Poler <mpoler@shrsys.hslc.org>
Yesterday I talked at length with Bob Lee at JCIS Corp. You
may have gotten a mailing from them. They have a variety of
systems that may fit your budget requirements. I was most
impressed by the willingness to talk at length,
straightforward answers to what they do and do not have
ready for NeXTSTEP, and especially that they are
developing drivers for NeXTSTEP to employ the hardware
that they manufacture.
Mr. Lee's full time job is pre-sales technical support. I
would like to hear your independent assessment of them if
you contact the company. I am seriously considering
getting a system from them for clinical research and
another for myself.
Contact info:
Mr. Bob Lee
JC Information Systems Corp.
4487 Technology Drive
Fremont, CA 94538-6343
510-659-8440
510-659-8449 fax
***************************************************************
Jim Goes + InterNet: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu
Health Management & Policy + (NeXTmail welcome!)
School of Public Health + Phone: (612) 624-3118
University of Minnesota + FAX: (612) 624-3972
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: brilee@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Woo Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: monitor and video card info needed
Date: 24 Jun 1994 00:05:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <2ud80k$4ud@agate.berkeley.edu>
I am attempting put together a pentium based pc system to run NeXTStep.
However, the task has been a bit daunting.. I'm transitioning from the
mac platform and have never used a DOS or Windows machine.. so I don't
know very much about the various vendors and hardware standards on the pc.
So far, I've contacted Gateway.. their prices seem good and my friend has
had a pretty good experience with them so far.
Aside from the hundreds of questions I currently have.. I would like help
on the following two:
1) What's a good Video Card... Gateway seems to have a Matrox and the
Mach 64 ATI.
2) What's a good monitor. My friend suggested a 17" from Nanao, Sony, or
ViewSonic... and what are their max pixel display size for various
bit color depths?
The above information would be greatly appreciated.. I want to buy the
system as soon as I can so that I can finally run NeXT step!!
brian
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Japan: sound-capable machines?
Date: 24 Jun 1994 01:33:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2udd4m$8rj@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2ucqpr$hli@inxs.concert.net>
In article <2ucqpr$hli@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
writes:
>In article <940623200603.4324AACUI.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford"
><malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
>> Can anybody advise me on options for NEXTSTEP-compatible PCs in Japan?
>> I'm looking for something high-quality, with very good sound-support in
>> particular.
>> [Marty -- ready for the Pacific Rim yet?!]
>>
>NEC would probably be the best bet in Japan since that's where they're based
>and I am sure they could be had for what one might consider a reasonable price.
NEC's you typically see outside Japan are not necessarily available in
Japan, at least not that widely.
DELL is there quite prominently in magazine ads.
Canon sells PC's preloaded with NS 3.2J.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
(NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 24 Jun 1994 02:43:23 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <2udh8b$2de6@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> <2uab23INNhcc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2uacig$2chh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> <1994Jun23.042900.8527@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Jun23.042900.8527@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
Darcy BROCKBANK <samurai@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>In article <2uacig$2chh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) writes:
>>
>>What they're getting at is that the video processing is done by
>>the CPU, not by the accelerators on the video cards themselves. So,
>>if you have a faster CPU, then of course your video is faster as well,
>>providing you don't have to transfer a great deal over the bus.
>>If the video is hanging off the CPU like the cache, then you do
>>get a benefit from a faster porocessor.
>>
>
>Which is a feature of NEXTSTEP, not of the Canon PC, as they
>seem to claim.
>
>- db
>
Okay, I wasn't quite clear on what I had in mind. Yes, NEXTSTEP buffers
the full screen in RAM, and does all the video processing. It still has
to shove the video (at least the changes to the image) across whatever
bus there is to the video card. The video card does hold the full screen
image for display out to the screen. My guess is that the video performance
is so much better because it doesn't have to shove video data across
that bus (VL, PCI) for display. It sounds to me like they've directly
linked the VRAM onto the memory bus of the CPU. That should imporove
things greatly when moving windows around & such.
john
--
john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: help with Quantum PD 1800S
Date: 24 Jun 1994 02:38:45 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2udgvl$md1@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Jun23.170206.4270@cs.sfu.ca>
In article <1994Jun23.170206.4270@cs.sfu.ca> peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps)
writes:
> title says *most* of it - BuildDisk doesn't even get past initializing
> this drive:
I bought one a couple months ago for my black hardware. Neither I nor two
other people whom I found on the net were able to get our Quantum PD1800s
drives to format. This is evidently a problem on black hardware only,
since somebody else told me that he had a PD1800s working fine on his
Intel NextStep box. The people at quantum were thoroughly unhelpful, and
although NeXT gave me a few suggestions over the phone, none of them
worked either. Several weeks after I had already returned the drive, Jim
Wiseman from tech support at Quantum emailed me to say that he had gotten
the drive to work on their NeXT. If you don't want to fool around, then
exchange your drive for a Micropolis 1.75 GB. It works correctly, right
out of the box.
If on the other hand, you want to try to format your PD1800s, here is what
Jim Wiseman <jvw@qntm.com> eventually told me:
> Well, I finally found some time, went down to the lab, and
> snatched a 1.8 Gb drive. Here is what I did:
>
> Disabled the terminator, set the SCSI id of 4 (boot drive id
> of 2) and booted NS 3.2 single user with a "bsd -s".
>
> After it had booted, I executed "/usr/etc/disk -F /dev/rsd1a"
> or something like that to do a low level format. It went
> off for about 15 minutes and did its thing.
>
> After that, I booted NeXTStep by typing a ^D in single user
> mode.
>
> As it booted, it asked something about initializing the new
> drive and I clicked "yes" and it went off and twiddled
> itself for awhile and came back with the drive mounted. I
> clicked on the drive icon and there was a giant thing out
> there.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: Questions about LJ4siMX with NS 3.2
Message-ID: <CrvwJG.8G2@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 04:30:51 GMT
I just installed an HP LaserJet 4 siMX (lifted that puppy all by myself,
too, since it was after hours and nobody was around) and am trying to
figure out a couple of - probably minor - details.
1) Where can I find something that explains what the "split" option is
(one of the print panel choices.) I was hoping that it would be smart
enough to print page 1 from the lower cassette and all subsequent pages of
the job from the upper cassette. A bonus would be if that was
user-configurable. Alas, when I chose "split" I got page 1 from the upper
cassette and an enormous error panel that popped up and said that I was
stupid, my software was stupid, and not to do that again. OK, so it didn't
really say that. But it did say: "Your print request couldn't be printed
[it was referring to page 2 et seq]. Make sure that its paper size and
other options match the printer's configuration."
I can print at will to either the upper or lower cassette just fine. What
am I doing wrong?
2) The envelope feeder self-tests OK, but similar to the split problem in
#1, I can't get NS to cause the feeder to select - things just appear to
bounce around inside the printer as party electrons and after they get
tired, it spits the print job out of the upper cassette instead.
Anybody using a 4siMX with these features?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rfadden@thorn.kpc.com (Rick Fadden)
Subject: Re: HP35470 2 Gig DAT drive work?
Message-ID: <1994Jun24.065818.13244@kpc.com>
Sender: rfadden@thorn (Rick Fadden)
Organization: Kubota Graphics Corporation
References: <2trdku$et@crl2.crl.com> <1994Jun20.183139.8153@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 06:58:18 GMT
Brian Hess writes:
: Yes, I use an H-P 35470A drive with NS, both on an Intel machine
: (w/Adaptec 1542) and a black cube.
I tried to send mail to Brian Hess with a further question, but
couldn't get through, so...
Given an Adaptec (like yours) and a SCSI DAT drive, how do you set
up the SCSI tape driver?
Rick Fadden
Kubota Graphics, Inc.
rfadden@kpc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: petera@orme.demon.co.uk (Peter Adams)
Subject: Re: Configuring ET4000/W32i driver
References: <2u816k$j58@wehil.wehi.edu.au>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 09:05:09 +0000
Message-ID: <772448709snz@orme.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <2u816k$j58@wehil.wehi.edu.au>
odonohue@kauai.ludwig.edu.au "Mark O'Donohue" writes:
>
> PS: For anybody at NeXT - a keyboard shortcut key for selecting power off
> from the logon dialog would be handy, if the mouse does not work or the
> screen does not display the only way out is to turn the power off. This
> may be fine once in a while but when trying to configure the video driver
> as I am it means waiting for fsck to check the disks each time, and a
> the time it takes is rather discomforting.
>
>
Hi Mark,
I had this problem too, and still do. One way to shut down the system
is to use Alternate - NumLock to get the NMI mini-monitor and then
just type h. This shuts the machine down quickly and cleanly. You can
do this even if you can see nothing on the screen.
Hope this helps...
--
Peter Adams Internet: petera@orme.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Subject: Adaptec1542B iozone performance
Message-ID: <CrvpAo.B45@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Summary: My iozone performance figures
Keywords: iozone disk performance
Organization: VE6MGS Gateway
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 01:54:24 GMT
I am dismayed to report NeXT has very poor disk performance with the
Adaptec 1542. But to make sure I am not an island of dispair, I would be
delighted if someone running NS 486 would send me their iozone results
(source shar'd up below) along with some configuration information (such as
which OS level, 3.0, 3.1 or 3.2, which driver 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 or NextAnswers
replacement). I will summarize later.
Do I *realy* have to rewrite every device driver on my machine? Hope not,
I wish my poor performance was totally as a result of me not configuring the
machine correctly. I can deal with my own shortcomings ...
Thanks, Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
On my 486DXII/66 machine, Adaptec 1542C I get (using the latest 1542B driver):
> iozone 8
> . . .
> Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...29.201305 seconds
> Reading the file...36.390792 seconds
>
> IOZONE performance measurements:
> 287268 bytes/second for writing the file
> 230514 bytes/second for reading the file
On an equivalent 486DXII/66 running BSDi, on an Adaptec 1542B, my friend gets:
> iozone 8
> . . .
> Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...7.916667 seconds
> Reading the file...7.016667 seconds
>
> IOZONE performance measurements:
> 1059613 bytes/second for writing the file
> 1195526 bytes/second for reading the file
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X
X IOZONE: Performance Test of Sequential File I/O -- V1.16 (10/28/92)
X By Bill Norcott
X
X Operating System: ANSI C
X
IOZONE: help mode
X
X 'IO Zone' Benchmark Program
X
X Author: Bill Norcott (norcott_bill@tandem.com)
X 1060 Hyde Avenue
X San Jose, CA 95129
X
X Copyright 1991, 1992 William D. Norcott
X
X License to freely use and distribute this software is hereby granted
X by the author, subject to the condition that this copyright notice
X remains intact. The author retains the exclusive right to publish
X derivative works based on this work, including, but not limited to,
X revised versions of this work
X
X This test writes a X MEGABYTE sequential file in Y byte chunks, then
X rewinds it and reads it back. [The size of the file should be
X big enough to factor out the effect of any disk cache.]. Finally,
X IOZONE deletes the temporary file
X
X The file is written (filling any cache buffers), and then read. If the
X cache is >= X MB, then most if not all the reads will be satisfied from
X the cache. However, if it is less than or equal to .5X MB, then NONE of
X the reads will be satisfied from the cache. This is becase after the
X file is written, a .5X MB cache will contain the upper .5 MB of the test
X file, but we will start reading from the beginning of the file (data
X which is no longer in the cache)
X
X In order for this to be a fair test, the length of the test file must
X be AT LEAST 2X the amount of disk cache memory for your system. If
X not, you are really testing the speed at which your CPU can read blocks
X out of the cache (not a fair test)
X
X IOZONE does not normally test the raw I/O speed of your disk or system.
X It tests the speed of sequential I/O to actual files. Therefore, this
X measurement factors in the efficiency of you machines file system,
X operating system, C compiler, and C runtime library. It produces a
X measurement which is the number of bytes per second that your system
X can read or write to a file.
X
X You use IOZONE to test the I/O speed of a UNIX 'RAW DEVICE' such
X as a tape drive, hard disk drive, floppy disk drive, etc. To do this,
X you must define the symbol NO_DELETE when you compile IOZONE. If you
X fail to define NO_DELETE, IOZONE will treat the raw device as a
X temporary file, and WILL DELETE THE RAW DEVICE after the test completes!
X When testing raw devices, any UNIX buffer caching is bypassed. IOZONE
X still is using the read()/write() system calls, so you are not quite
X testing the device at the low level of say, disk controller diagnostics.
X On the other hand, that kind of testing is highly system- and device-
X specific, and my goal for IOZONE has been to build a highly portable
X benchmark -- not one which is tied to a particular operating system or
X hardware configuration. In practice, I have tested raw disk and tape
X peripherals and the results are very close to the manufacturer's specs
X for those devices.
X
X For V1.06, IOZONE adds the 'auto test' feature. This is activated
X by the command: 'iozone auto' . The auto test runs IOZONE repeatedly
X using record sizes from 512 to 8192 bytes, and file sizes from 1 to 16
X megabytes. It creates a table of results.
X
X For V1.06, IOZONE lets you specify the number of file system sizes and
X record lengths to test when using auto mode. Define the constants
X MEGABYTES_ITER_LIMIT and RECLEN_ITER_LIMIT as seen below
X
X For V1.09 you can show the development help by typing 'iozone help'
X
X For V1.10 IOzone traps SIGINT (user interrupt) and SIGTERM
X (kill from shell) signals and deletes the temporary file
X
X For V1.11 IOzone requires no compilation flags for AIX
X Also, come miscellaneous cleanups have been made to the source
X
X For V1.12 IOzone support has been added for the MIPS RISCos,
X Tandem Non-StopUX, and Tandem GUARDIAN 90 operating systems.
X IOzone is now a 'Conforming POSIX.1 Application' (IEEE Std 1003.1-1988)
X
X For V1.14 IOzone supports Next and QNX systems. It also prints out
X the name of the operating system when run. There is now the option
X to force IOzone to flush all writes to disk via fsync()
X Defining USE_FSYNC will make IOzone include in its measurements the time
X it takes to actually write the data onto disk, as opposed to
X just writing into the system cache. BSD UNIX and SVR4 support fsync(),
X but SVR3 and generic POSIX systems do not. I have enabled USE_FSYNC
X for the systems which support it
X
X For V1.14, we now officially support AT&T SVR4. It has worked just
X fine using SVR4 with previous versions of IOzone. Also, for systems
X which use the times() function, we calculate the 'base time' the first
X time we ever call time_so_far(), then subtract this time from all
X future measurements. This increases the precision of our measurement
X and fixes a loss-of-precision problem which occurred on some systems
X
X For V1.15, add the NO_DELETE symbol. If you define NO_DELETE during
X the compilation (e.g., for UNIX systems compile with cc -DNO_DELETE),
X IOzone will not delete the 'temporary' file which it reads & writes.
X This is REQUIRED when testing RAW DEVICES such as disks and tape drives!
X
X
X This program has been ported and tested on the following computer
X operating systems:
X
X Vendor Operating System Notes on compiling IOzone
X -------------------------------------------------------------------------
X Apollo Domain/OS no cc switches -- BSD domain
X AT&T UNIX System V Release 4
X AT&T 6386WGS AT&T UNIX 5.3.2 can't get it to compile with cc
X It should work with gcc via:
X 'gcc -ansi -o iozone iozone.c'
X Generic AT&T UNIX System V R3 may need cc -DSVR3
X Convergent Unisys/AT&T Sys5r3 cc -DCONVERGENT -o iozone iozone.c
X Digital Equipment ULTRIX V4.1
X Digital Equipment VAX/VMS V5.4 see below **
X Digital Equipment VAX/VMS (POSIX)
X Hewlett-Packard HP-UX 7.05
X IBM AIX Ver. 3 rel. 1
X Interactive UNIX System V R3
X Microsoft MS-DOS 3.3 tested Borland, Microsoft C
X MIPS RISCos 4.52
X NeXt NeXt OS 2.x
X OSF OSF/1
X Portable! POSIX 1003.1-1988 may need to -D_POSIX_SOURCE
X QNX QNX 4.0
X SCO UNIX System V/386 3.2.2
X SCO XENIX 2.3
X SCO XENIX 3.2
X Silicon Graphics UNIX cc -DSGI -o iozone iozone.c
X Sony Microsystems UNIX same as MIPS
X Sun Microsystems SUNOS 4.1.1
X Tandem Computers GUARDIAN 90 1. call the source file IOZONEC
X 2. C/IN IOZONEC/IOZONE;RUNNABLE
X 3. RUN IOZONE
X Tandem Computers Non-Stop UX
X
X ** for VMS, define iozone as a foreign command via this DCL command:
X
X $IOZONE :== $SYS$DISK:[]IOZONE.EXE
X
X this lets you pass the command line arguments to IOZONE
X
X Acknowledgements to the following persons for their feedback on IOzone:
X
X Andy Puchrik, Michael D. Lawler, Krishna E. Bera, Sam Drake, John H. Hartman,
X Ted Lyszczarz, Bill Metzenthen, Jody Winston, Clarence Dold, Axel
X Dan Hildebrand, Joe Nordman, Bob Fritz, Jeff Johnson
X
X --- MODIFICATION HISTORY:
X
X
X 3/7/91 William D. Norcott (Bill.Norcott@nuo.mts.dec.com)
X created
X
X 3/22/91 Bill Norcott tested on OSF/1 ... it works
X
X 3/24/91 Bill Norcott V1.02 -- use calloc in TURBOC to
X fix bug with their malloc
X
X 3/25/91 Bill Norcott V1.03 -- add ifdef for XENIX
X
X 3/27/91 Bill Norcott V1.04 -- Includes for SCO UNIX
X
X 4/26/91 Bill Norcott V1.05 -- support AIX and SUNos, check
X length of read() and write()
X 4/26/91 Bill Norcott V1.06 -- tabulate results of a series
X of tests
X 5/17/91 Bill Norcott V1.07 -- use time() for VMS
X 5/20/91 Bill Norcott V1.08 -- use %ld for Turbo C and
X use #ifdef sun to bypass
X inclusion of limits.h
X 6/19/91 Bill Norcott V1.09 -- rid #elif to support HP-UX and
X Silicon Graphics UNIX, and
X add #ifdef SGI
X add #ifdef CONVERGENT
X for Convergent Technologies
X also add help option
X 7/2/91 Bill Norcott V1.10 -- delete file if get SIGINT
X or SIGTERM
X 8/20/91 Bill Norcott V1.11 -- require no flags with AIX
X 11/4/91 Bill Norcott V1.12 -- support MIPS RISCos
X Tandem NonStop-UX, and
X IEEE Std POSIX 1003.1-1988
X 12/4/91 Bill Norcott V1.13 -- support NeXT; tell host OS type
X 1/23/92 Bill Norcott V1.14 -- support QNX & use calloc() for buffer
X 5/1/92 Bill Norcott V1.15 -- support SVR4; fix loss of precision
X in times() function.
X support Interactive UNIX
X detect ANSI if no O/S
X Also, define for generic SVR3
X Apollo Domain/OS
X Define NO_DELETE and iozone wont
X delete the temp file. Needed to
X test raw devices without deleting
X them
X 10/28/92 Bill Norcott V1.16 -- bug fix: some unsigned longs changed
X to unsigned in V1.15 caused problem
X so change back. Also, note problems
X with AT&T 6386WGS systems
X
SHAR_EOF
chmod 0640 README ||
echo 'restore of README failed'
Wc_c="`wc -c < 'README'`"
test 10345 -eq "$Wc_c" ||
echo 'README: original size 10345, current size' "$Wc_c"
fi
# ============= iozone.c ==============
if test -f 'iozone.c' -a X"$1" != X"-c"; then
echo 'x - skipping iozone.c (File already exists)'
else
sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' > 'iozone.c' &&
char *help[] = {
X " 'IO Zone' Benchmark Program",
X " ",
X " Author: Bill Norcott (norcott_bill@tandem.com)",
X " 1060 Hyde Avenue",
X " San Jose, CA 95129",
X " ",
X " Copyright 1991, 1992 William D. Norcott",
X " ",
X " License to freely use and distribute this software is hereby granted ",
X " by the author, subject to the condition that this copyright notice ",
X " remains intact. The author retains the exclusive right to publish ",
X " derivative works based on this work, including, but not limited to, ",
X " revised versions of this work",
X " ",
X " This test writes a X MEGABYTE sequential file in Y byte chunks, then",
X " rewinds it and reads it back. [The size of the file should be",
X " big enough to factor out the effect of any disk cache.]. Finally,",
X " IOZONE deletes the temporary file",
X " ",
X " The file is written (filling any cache buffers), and then read. If the",
X " cache is >= X MB, then most if not all the reads will be satisfied from",
X " the cache. However, if it is less than or equal to .5X MB, then NONE of",
X " the reads will be satisfied from the cache. This is becase after the ",
X " file is written, a .5X MB cache will contain the upper .5 MB of the test",
X " file, but we will start reading from the beginning of the file (data",
X " which is no longer in the cache)",
X " ",
X " In order for this to be a fair test, the length of the test file must",
X " be AT LEAST 2X the amount of disk cache memory for your system. If",
X " not, you are really testing the speed at which your CPU can read blocks",
X " out of the cache (not a fair test)",
X " ",
X " IOZONE does not normally test the raw I/O speed of your disk or system.",
X " It tests the speed of sequential I/O to actual files. Therefore, this",
X " measurement factors in the efficiency of you machines file system,",
X " operating system, C compiler, and C runtime library. It produces a ",
X " measurement which is the number of bytes per second that your system",
X " can read or write to a file. ",
X " ",
X " You use IOZONE to test the I/O speed of a UNIX 'RAW DEVICE' such",
X " as a tape drive, hard disk drive, floppy disk drive, etc. To do this,",
X " you must define the symbol NO_DELETE when you compile IOZONE. If you",
X " fail to define NO_DELETE, IOZONE will treat the raw device as a ",
X " temporary file, and WILL DELETE THE RAW DEVICE after the test completes!",
X " When testing raw devices, any UNIX buffer caching is bypassed. IOZONE",
X " still is using the read()/write() system calls, so you are not quite",
X " testing the device at the low level of say, disk controller diagnostics.",
X " On the other hand, that kind of testing is highly system- and device-",
X " specific, and my goal for IOZONE has been to build a highly portable",
X " benchmark -- not one which is tied to a particular operating system or",
X " hardware configuration. In practice, I have tested raw disk and tape",
X " peripherals and the results are very close to the manufacturer's specs",
X " for those devices.",
X " ",
X " For V1.06, IOZONE adds the 'auto test' feature. This is activated",
X " by the command: 'iozone auto' . The auto test runs IOZONE repeatedly ",
X " using record sizes from 512 to 8192 bytes, and file sizes from 1 to 16",
X " megabytes. It creates a table of results.",
X " ",
X " For V1.06, IOZONE lets you specify the number of file system sizes and ",
X " record lengths to test when using auto mode. Define the constants",
X " MEGABYTES_ITER_LIMIT and RECLEN_ITER_LIMIT as seen below ",
X " ",
X " For V1.09 you can show the development help by typing 'iozone help'",
X " ",
X " For V1.10 IOzone traps SIGINT (user interrupt) and SIGTERM",
X " (kill from shell) signals and deletes the temporary file",
X " ",
X " For V1.11 IOzone requires no compilation flags for AIX",
X " Also, come miscellaneous cleanups have been made to the source",
X " ",
X " For V1.12 IOzone support has been added for the MIPS RISCos,",
X " Tandem Non-StopUX, and Tandem GUARDIAN 90 operating systems.",
X " IOzone is now a 'Conforming POSIX.1 Application' (IEEE Std 1003.1-1988)",
X " ",
X " For V1.14 IOzone supports Next and QNX systems. It also prints out",
X " the name of the operating system when run. There is now the option",
X " to force IOzone to flush all writes to disk via fsync()",
X " Defining USE_FSYNC will make IOzone include in its measurements the time",
X " it takes to actually write the data onto disk, as opposed to",
X " just writing into the system cache. BSD UNIX and SVR4 support fsync(),",
X " but SVR3 and generic POSIX systems do not. I have enabled USE_FSYNC",
X " for the systems which support it",
X " ",
X " For V1.14, we now officially support AT&T SVR4. It has worked just",
X " fine using SVR4 with previous versions of IOzone. Also, for systems",
X " which use the times() function, we calculate the 'base time' the first",
X " time we ever call time_so_far(), then subtract this time from all",
X " future measurements. This increases the precision of our measurement",
X " and fixes a loss-of-precision problem which occurred on some systems",
X " ",
X " For V1.15, add the NO_DELETE symbol. If you define NO_DELETE during",
X " the compilation (e.g., for UNIX systems compile with cc -DNO_DELETE),",
X " IOzone will not delete the 'temporary' file which it reads & writes.",
X " This is REQUIRED when testing RAW DEVICES such as disks and tape drives!",
X " ",
X " ",
X " This program has been ported and tested on the following computer",
X " operating systems:",
X " ",
X " Vendor Operating System Notes on compiling IOzone",
X " -------------------------------------------------------------------------",
X " Apollo Domain/OS no cc switches -- BSD domain",
X " AT&T UNIX System V Release 4",
X " AT&T 6386WGS AT&T UNIX 5.3.2 can't get it to compile with cc",
X " It should work with gcc via:",
X " 'gcc -ansi -o iozone iozone.c'",
X " Generic AT&T UNIX System V R3 may need cc -DSVR3",
X " Convergent Unisys/AT&T Sys5r3 cc -DCONVERGENT -o iozone iozone.c",
X " Digital Equipment ULTRIX V4.1 ",
X " Digital Equipment VAX/VMS V5.4 see below ** ",
X " Digital Equipment VAX/VMS (POSIX) ",
X " Hewlett-Packard HP-UX 7.05",
X " IBM AIX Ver. 3 rel. 1",
X " Interactive UNIX System V R3 ",
X " Microsoft MS-DOS 3.3 tested Borland, Microsoft C",
X " MIPS RISCos 4.52",
X " NeXt NeXt OS 2.x",
X " OSF OSF/1",
X " Portable! POSIX 1003.1-1988 may need to -D_POSIX_SOURCE",
X " QNX QNX 4.0",
X " SCO UNIX System V/386 3.2.2",
X " SCO XENIX 2.3",
X " SCO XENIX 3.2",
X " Silicon Graphics UNIX cc -DSGI -o iozone iozone.c",
X " Sony Microsystems UNIX same as MIPS",
X " Sun Microsystems SUNOS 4.1.1",
X " Tandem Computers GUARDIAN 90 1. call the source file IOZONEC",
X " 2. C/IN IOZONEC/IOZONE;RUNNABLE",
X " 3. RUN IOZONE",
X " Tandem Computers Non-Stop UX",
X " ",
X " ** for VMS, define iozone as a foreign command via this DCL command: ",
X " ",
X " $IOZONE :== $SYS$DISK:[]IOZONE.EXE ",
X " ",
X " this lets you pass the command line arguments to IOZONE",
X " ",
X " Acknowledgements to the following persons for their feedback on IOzone: ",
X " ",
X " Andy Puchrik, Michael D. Lawler, Krishna E. Bera, Sam Drake, John H. Hartman, ",
X " Ted Lyszczarz, Bill Metzenthen, Jody Winston, Clarence Dold, Axel",
X " Dan Hildebrand, Joe Nordman, Bob Fritz, Jeff Johnson",
X " ",
X " --- MODIFICATION HISTORY:",
X " ",
X " ",
X " 3/7/91 William D. Norcott (Bill.Norcott@nuo.mts.dec.com)",
X " created",
X " ",
X " 3/22/91 Bill Norcott tested on OSF/1 ... it works",
X " ",
X " 3/24/91 Bill Norcott V1.02 -- use calloc in TURBOC to",
X " fix bug with their malloc",
X " ",
X " 3/25/91 Bill Norcott V1.03 -- add ifdef for XENIX",
X " ",
X " 3/27/91 Bill Norcott V1.04 -- Includes for SCO UNIX",
X " ",
X " 4/26/91 Bill Norcott V1.05 -- support AIX and SUNos, check",
X " length of read() and write()",
X " 4/26/91 Bill Norcott V1.06 -- tabulate results of a series ",
X " of tests",
X " 5/17/91 Bill Norcott V1.07 -- use time() for VMS",
X " 5/20/91 Bill Norcott V1.08 -- use %ld for Turbo C and",
X " use #ifdef sun to bypass",
X " inclusion of limits.h",
X " 6/19/91 Bill Norcott V1.09 -- rid #elif to support HP-UX and ",
X " Silicon Graphics UNIX, and",
X " add #ifdef SGI",
X " add #ifdef CONVERGENT",
X " for Convergent Technologies",
X " also add help option",
X " 7/2/91 Bill Norcott V1.10 -- delete file if get SIGINT",
X " or SIGTERM",
X " 8/20/91 Bill Norcott V1.11 -- require no flags with AIX",
X " 11/4/91 Bill Norcott V1.12 -- support MIPS RISCos",
X " Tandem NonStop-UX, and",
X " IEEE Std POSIX 1003.1-1988",
X " 12/4/91 Bill Norcott V1.13 -- support NeXT; tell host OS type",
X " 1/23/92 Bill Norcott V1.14 -- support QNX & use calloc() for buffer",
X " 5/1/92 Bill Norcott V1.15 -- support SVR4; fix loss of precision",
X " in times() function. ",
X " support Interactive UNIX",
X " detect ANSI if no O/S",
X " Also, define for generic SVR3",
X " Apollo Domain/OS",
X " Define NO_DELETE and iozone wont",
X " delete the temp file. Needed to",
X " test raw devices without deleting",
X " them",
X " 10/28/92 Bill Norcott V1.16 -- bug fix: some unsigned longs changed",
X " to unsigned in V1.15 caused problem",
X " so change back. Also, note problems",
X " with AT&T 6386WGS systems",
X " ",
X "" };
X
/******************************************************************
X
X INCLUDE FILES (system-dependent)
X
X ******************************************************************/
/*
V1.15 -- Define the symbol NO_DELETE if you plan to use IOzone to test
the speed of UNIX raw devices such as disk- and tape drives. This will
tell IOzone NOT to delete the file after the test completes
*/
/* #define NO_DELETE */
/*
V1.15 -- If you have a generic System V R3 not on my list of supported
systems, define SVR3 when you compile IOzone. If you have to use this, please
send tell me what preprocessor symbols your C compiler defines which
will help me test for your particular system... do a 'man cc' on a
UNIX system to check, or just do a 'man cc > cc.txt' and mail me
cc.txt
*/
/* Define the following if you have a generic System V R3 system which
is not one of the specific versions listed above
*/
/* #define SVR3 */
#ifdef SVR3
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "'Generic' UNIX System V Release 3 -- vendor unknown"
#endif
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#define SysVtime
#endif
/* V1.15 -- add Apollo Domain O/S to the list -- it also worked in previous
versions, now it will print its identity
*/
#ifdef apollo
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "Apollo Domain/OS -- using BSD libraries"
#define BSDtime
#define USE_FSYNC
#endif
#endif
X
/* V1.14 -- use calloc instead of stack for buffer, on all platforms */
#define usecalloc
/*
V1.14b -- check for ultrix which uses sysconf in newer POSIX version
but uses BSD-style time in the pre-POSIX versions
V1.15 use fsync() for ultrix even though V4.2 will pick up other options
from POSIX
*/
#ifdef ultrix
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "ULTRIX 4.0 or earlier"
#define BSDtime
#define USE_FSYNC
#endif
#endif
/* V1.13 -- support NeXT by treating it like a Sun... Thanks Axel! */
#ifdef __NeXT__
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "NeXT OS"
#endif
#define sun
#endif
/*
X define nolimits if your system has no limits.h. Sun's don't but I
X take care of this explicitly beginning with V1.08 of IOzone.
X */
#ifdef sun
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "SunOS"
#endif
#define nolimits
#define BSDtime
#define USE_FSYNC
#endif
/* V1.09 -- Silicon Graphics compile with -DSGI */
#ifdef SGI
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "Silicon Graphics"
#endif
#define nolimits
#define BSDtime
#endif
X
/* V1.13 For MIPS RISC/OS and Tandem NonStop-UX*/
#ifdef SYSTYPE_BSD43
#define bsd4_3
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "MIPS RISC/os (BSD 4.3 libraries)"
#endif
#endif
X
#ifdef SYSTYPE_SYSV
#include <sys/utsname.h>
#define nolimits
#ifdef T_NONSTOP
#define OS_TYPE "TANDEM NonStop-UX (System V libraries)"
#endif
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "MIPS RISC/os (System V libraries)"
#endif
#define SysVtime
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/times.h>
#include <sys/fcntl.h>
#endif
/* V1.14 -- define nolimits and BSDtime for Xenix 2.3.3 */
/* incl definitions of O_* flags for XENIX */
#ifdef M_UNIX
#define SCOunix
#else
#ifdef M_XENIX
#define SCOxenix
#endif
#endif
X
/* SCO Unix System V */
#ifdef SCOunix
#define OS_TYPE "SCO UNIX System V/386"
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/fcntl.h>
#endif
X
#ifdef SCOxenix
#ifdef XENIX_2_3
#define OS_TYPE "SCO XENIX 2.3.x"
#define BSDtime
#else
#define OS_TYPE "SCO XENIX 3.x"
#define SysVtime
#endif
#endif
X
/* V1.12 -- test for POSIX-conformant operating system; requires limits.h */
/*
V1.15 -- I have been told that there is a problem in the times() POSIX
function in Ultrix V4.1 and greater. It seems to return the time in
whole seconds (expressed in terms of clock ticks) instead of correctly
returning the elapsed time in clock ticks ALTHOUGH POSIX 1003.1-1988
and ISO 9945 CLEARLY STATE that "times() shall return the elapsed real
time, in clock ticks."
X
This means calling times() twice in the same second and subtracting
the two values, produces an answer of 0, which IOzone detects as an error.
X
I thought I had a problem in V1.14 under Ultrix with loss of precision,
i.e. taking the difference of two large floating point numbers,
but the problem seems be that Ultrix times() *inherently* has a
loss of precision, so my "fix" can't fix the broken system call.
Until they fix it in Ultrix I am going to use BSD-style everything
for Ultrix
*/
#ifndef nolimits
X
#include <limits.h>
#ifdef _POSIX_ARG_MAX
#ifndef ultrix
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "POSIX 1003.1-1988"
#endif
#define isposix
#undef USE_FSYNC
#else
/* It's ultrix disguised as POSIX; still use BSD calls until they fix it */
#undef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "ULTRIX 4.1 or later"
#endif
#endif
#endif
X
/* Tandem's GUARDIAN operating system */
#include <stdio.h>
#ifdef __TANDEM
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "TANDEM GUARDIAN 90"
#endif
#define nosignals
#define ANSItime
#define ANSI_MAIN
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <time.h>
#endif
#ifndef nosignals
#include <signal.h>
#endif
#ifdef __MSDOS__ /* Turbo C define this way for PCs... */
#define MSDOS /* Microsoft C defines this */
#endif
/* VMS and MS-DOS both have ANSI C compilers and use rand()/srand() */
#ifdef VMS_POSIX
#undef VMS
#define ANSI_RANDOM 1
#endif
#ifdef MSDOS
#define ANSI_RANDOM 1
#endif
/* Convergent Technologies M680xx based with Unisys/AT&T Sys5r3 */
#ifdef CONVERGENT
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "Convergent Technologies"
#endif
#include <fcntl.h>
#define SysVtime
#endif
/* Interactive UNIX System V Release 3.2 */
#ifdef isc386
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "Interactive UNIX System V/386"
#endif
#include <fcntl.h>
#define SysVtime
#endif
X
/* V1.11 -- With the following includes, AIX no longer requires -Dunix */
#ifdef _AIX
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "AIX"
#endif
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <sys/time.h>
#endif
X
#if defined(VMS)
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "VAX/VMS"
#endif
#define ANSItime
#define ANSI_RANDOM 1
#include <math.h>
#include <unixio.h>
#include <ssdef.h>
#include <file.h>
#include <time.h>
X
#else
/* ... either MSDOS, POSIX, or a generic non-POSIX UNIX */
#ifdef MSDOS
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "MS-DOS"
#endif
#define usecalloc
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <time.h>
#endif
/* nope, not MS-DOS, try POSIX */
#ifdef isposix
#include <time.h>
#include <sys/times.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#else
#ifdef unix
#include <fcntl.h>
#else
#define O_RDONLY 0
#endif
#endif
#endif
X
/* for systems with System V-style time, define SysVtime */
#ifdef M_SYSV
#define SysVtime
#endif
X
/* for systems with BSD style time, define BSDtime */
#ifdef bsd4_2
#define USE_FSYNC
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "BSD 4.2"
#endif
#define BSDtime
#endif
#ifdef bsd4_3
#define USE_FSYNC
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#define OS_TYPE "BSD 4.3"
#endif
#define BSDtime
#endif
/*
If we made it this far and still don't know which operating system
we are running, check if we at least have ANSI C so we can do some
kind of time functions. On the other hand, if we know what O/S
we are running use the (more precise) time routines for that O/S,
even if we do have ANSI C. If we don't know what O/S we are and
we don't have ANSI C, but we are some flavor of UNIX, I will use
time() which any UNIX will have. For the worst case we are not
any form of UNIX nor a supported proprietary O/S, and we don't have
ANSI C either, one of two things will happen:
1. If you define NOTIMER then you will have to use a stopwatch
2. If NOTIMER not defined, we will assume we can use time()
*/
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#ifdef __STDC__
#define OS_TYPE "ANSI C"
#define ANSItime
#include <time.h>
#endif
#endif
X
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#ifdef unix
#define OS_TYPE "UNIX (can't tell if System V or BSD) -- using time()"
#define ANSItime
#include <time.h>
#endif
#endif
X
#ifndef OS_TYPE
#if NOTIMER
#define OS_TYPE "System type unknown & not ANSI C -- disabling timing"
#define noclock 1
#else
#define OS_TYPE "System type unknown & not ANSI C -- using time()"
#define ANSItime
#include <time.h>
#endif
#endif
X
#ifdef SysVtime
#undef BSDtime
#include <sys/times.h>
#include <sys/param.h>
#ifndef CLK_TCK
#define CLK_TCK HZ
#endif
#endif
X
#ifdef BSDtime
#undef SysVtime
#include <sys/time.h>
#endif
X
/******************************************************************
X
X DEFINED CONSTANTS
X
X ******************************************************************/
/* Define NULL in case we don't have it... */
#ifndef NULL
#define NULL 0
#endif
/*
X V1.14: Define ONETEST to run a single test at runtime as the default
X V1.14: Define AUTOTEST to run in auto test mode as the default
X i.e. the behavior of IOzone when it is invoked with no arguments. ONETEST
X makes IOzone run a single test using a 1 MB file and 512 byte records.
X AUTOTEST causes IOzone to use auto test mode.
X For compatibility with previous versions of IOZONE, ONETEST is the default
X setting
*/
#define ONETEST 1
#ifndef ONETEST
#define AUTOTEST
#endif
X
/*
X V1.14: Define USE_FSYNC to force writes to disk during the write phase
X BSD and BSD-derived UNIX variants and also SVR4 are known to have fsync
X UNIX). After the file is written and before it is closed, call fsync()
X to force the data to be written from cache to disk. This (mostly) cancels
X the fact that systems with a lot of memory for cache buffers or memory
X mapping display artificially high transfer rates during the write phase
X of IOzone, because the data never makes it onto the disk.
X
*/
#if 0
#define USE_FSYNC
#endif
X
#define MEGABYTES 1 /* number of megabytes in file */
#define RECLEN 512 /* number of bytes in a record */
#define FILESIZE 1048576 /*size of file in bytes*/
#define NUMRECS 2048 /* number of records */
#define MAXBUFFERSIZE 16*1024 /*maximum buffer size*/
#define MINBUFFERSIZE 128
#define TOOFAST 10
#define IOZONE_USAGE \
"\tUsage:\tiozone [megabytes] [record_length_in_bytes] [[path]filename]\n\t\tiozone auto\n\t\tiozone help\n\n"
#define THISVERSION "V1.16"
#define RELEASEDATE "10/28/92"
X /* Define only one of the following two. All modern operating systems
X have time functions so let TIME be defined */
#ifndef noclock
#define TIME 1
#endif
X
#define MAXNAMESIZE 1000 /* max # of characters in filename */
#define CONTROL_STRING1 "\t%-8ld%-8ld%-20ld%-20ld\n"
#define CONTROL_STRING2 "\t%-8s%-8s%-20s%-20s\n"
X /*
X For 'auto mode', these defines determine the number of iterations
X to perform for both the file size and the record length.
X I.e., if MEGABYTES_ITER_LIMIT = 5 use 1, 2, 4, 8 & 16 megabyte files
X if RECLEN_ITER_LIMIT = 5 use 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 & 8192 byte records
X */
#define MEGABYTES_ITER_LIMIT 5
#define RECLEN_ITER_LIMIT 5
/******************************************************************
X
X MACRO DEFINITIONS
X
X ******************************************************************/
#define abs(X) ( (X) < 0 ? (-(X)) : (X) ) /* Absolute value of X */
X /******************************************************************
X
X FUNCTION DECLARATIONS
X
X
X ******************************************************************/
void auto_test(); /* perform automatic test series */
void show_help(); /* show development help*/
double time_so_far(); /* time since start of program */
void signal_handler(); /* clean up if user interrupts us */
/******************************************************************
X
X GLOBAL VARIABLES
X
X ******************************************************************/
int auto_mode;
char filename [MAXNAMESIZE]; /* name of temporary file */
/******************************************************************
X
X MAIN -- entry point
X
X ******************************************************************/
#ifdef ANSI_MAIN
int
main(int argc, char *argv[], char *env[]) /* main body of code */
#else
int
X main(argc,argv)
X int argc;
X char *argv[];
#endif
{
#ifdef ANSI_MAIN
X char *fooenv;
#endif
X int fd;
X char *default_filename;
X
#ifdef usecalloc
X char *buffer;
#else
X char buffer [MAXBUFFERSIZE]; /*a temporary data buffer*/
#endif
X unsigned long i;
X unsigned long megabytes = MEGABYTES;
X unsigned long reclen = RECLEN;
X unsigned long filesize;
X unsigned long numrecs;
X unsigned long thisrec;
#ifdef TIME
X unsigned long filebytes;
X unsigned long readrate, writerate;
X unsigned long goodmegs;
X unsigned long goodrecl;
X double starttime;
X double writetime, readtime;
X double totaltime;
#endif
#ifdef usecalloc
X buffer = (char *) calloc(1, MAXBUFFERSIZE);
#endif
X
#if defined (ANSI_MAIN)
X fooenv= env[0]; /* dummy so we make some use of env (to avoid warnings) */
#endif
X
#if defined (__TANDEM)
X default_filename ="IOZONET"; /* TANDEM GUARDIAN 90 has max 8 char filenames */
#else
X default_filename ="iozone.tmp"; /*default name of temporary file*/
#endif
X if (!auto_mode)
X {
X printf("\n\tIOZONE: Performance Test of Sequential File I/O -- %s (%s)\n",
X THISVERSION, RELEASEDATE);
X printf("\t\tBy Bill Norcott\n\n");
#ifdef USE_FSYNC
X printf("\tOperating System: %s -- using fsync()\n\n", OS_TYPE);
#else
X printf("\tOperating System: %s\n\n", OS_TYPE);
#endif
#ifndef nosignals
X signal(SIGINT, signal_handler); /* handle user interrupt */
X signal(SIGTERM, signal_handler); /* handle kill from shell */
#endif
X }
X strcpy(filename,default_filename);
X switch (argc) {
X case 1: /* no args, take all defaults */
X printf(IOZONE_USAGE);
#ifdef AUTOTEST
X auto_mode = 1;
X auto_test();
X printf("Completed series of tests\n");
X exit(0);
#endif
X break;
X case 2: /* <megabytes|filename> */
X i = (unsigned) abs(atoi(argv[1]));
X if (i) {
X megabytes = i;
X } else {
X /*
X 'Auto mode' will be enabled if the first command line argument is
X the word 'auto'. This will trigger a series of tests
X */
X if ( (strcmp(argv[1], "auto") == 0) ||
X (strcmp(argv[1], "AUTO") == 0) )
X {
X auto_mode = 1;
X auto_test();
X printf("Completed series of tests\n");
X exit(0);
X } else {
X auto_mode = 0;
X }
X if ( (strcmp(argv[1], "help") == 0) ||
X (strcmp(argv[1], "HELP") == 0) )
X {
X show_help();
X exit(0);
X }
X strcpy(filename,argv[1]);
X }
X break;
X case 3: /* <megabytes> <reclen|filename> */
X megabytes = (unsigned) atoi(argv[1]);
X if (atoi(argv[2])) {
X reclen = atoi(argv[2]);
X } else {
X strcpy(filename,argv[2]);
X }
X break;
X case 4: /* <megabytes> <reclen> <filename> */
X megabytes = (unsigned) atoi(argv[1]);
X reclen = atoi(argv[2]);
X strcpy(filename,argv[3]);
X break;
X default:
X printf("IOZONE: bad usage\n");
X printf(IOZONE_USAGE);
X exit(1);
X
X }
X if (!auto_mode)
X {
X printf("\tSend comments to:\tnorcott_bill@tandem.com\n\n");
X }
X filesize = (unsigned long) (1024L*1024L*megabytes);
X numrecs = filesize/(unsigned long) reclen;
X if (reclen > MAXBUFFERSIZE) {
X printf("<Error: Maximum record length is %d bytes\n", MAXBUFFERSIZE);
X exit(1);
X }
X if (reclen < MINBUFFERSIZE) {
X printf("Error: Minimum record length is %d bytes\n", MINBUFFERSIZE);
X exit(1);
X }
X if (!auto_mode)
X {
X printf("\tIOZONE writes a %ld Megabyte sequential file consisting of\n",
X megabytes);
X printf("\t%ld records which are each %ld bytes in length.\n",
X numrecs, reclen);
X printf("\tIt then reads the file. It prints the bytes-per-second\n");
X printf("\trate at which the computer can read and write files.\n\n");
X printf("\nWriting the %ld Megabyte file, '%s'...", megabytes, filename);
X }
X
#if defined (__TANDEM)
X /*
X Tandem's GUARDIAN preallocates file space based on primary- and secondary extents.
X The last 2 parameters to open are the sizes of the primary- and secondary extents,
X in blocks which are 2K bytes each. After the primary extent is filled, GUARDIAN
X allocates up to 15 additional extents, one at a time.
X */
#define SPECIAL_CREAT
#define PRI_EXT_BLOCKS 1024
#define SEC_EXT_BLOCKS 1024
X if((fd = creat(filename, 0640,
X PRI_EXT_BLOCKS, SEC_EXT_BLOCKS))<0){
X printf("Cannot create temporary file: %s\n", filename);
X exit(1);
X }
#endif
#ifndef SPECIAL_CREAT
X if((fd = creat(filename, 0640))<0){
X printf("Cannot create temporary file: %s\n", filename);
X exit(1);
X }
#endif
#ifdef TIME
X starttime = time_so_far();
#endif
#ifndef TIME
X printf("\nstart timing\n");
#endif
X for(thisrec=0; thisrec<numrecs; thisrec++){
#ifndef DEBUG_ME
X if(write(fd, buffer, (unsigned) reclen) != reclen)
X {
X printf("Error writing block %d\n", thisrec);
X perror("iozone");
X close(fd);
#ifndef VMS
#ifndef NO_DELETE
X unlink(filename); /* delete the file */
#endif
X /*stop timer*/
#endif
X exit(1);
X }
#endif
X }
#ifdef USE_FSYNC
X fsync(fd);
#endif
#ifdef TIME
X writetime = time_so_far() - starttime;
X if (!auto_mode)
X {
X printf("%f seconds", writetime);
X }
#endif
#ifndef TIME
X printf("\nstop timing\n");
#endif
X close(fd);
#if defined (VMS)
#define SPECIAL_OPEN_READ
X if((fd = open(filename, O_RDONLY, 0640))<0){
X printf("Cannot open temporary file for read\n");
X exit(1);
X }
#endif
X
#ifdef MSDOS
#define SPECIAL_OPEN_READ
X if((fd = open(filename, O_RDONLY, 0640))<0){
X printf("Cannot open temporary file for read\n");
X exit(1);
X }
#endif
X
X /*
X 'Generic' case, compiled if no operating system-specific case was invoked
X */
#ifndef SPECIAL_OPEN_READ
X if((fd = open(filename, O_RDONLY))<0){
X printf("Cannot open temporary file for read\n");
X exit(1);
X }
#endif
X
X
X
X /*start timing*/
X if (!auto_mode)
X {
X printf("\nReading the file...");
X }
#ifndef TIME
X printf("\nstart timing\n");
#endif
#ifdef TIME
X starttime = time_so_far();
#endif
X for(thisrec=0; thisrec<numrecs; thisrec++) {
#ifndef DEBUG_ME
X if(read(fd, buffer, (unsigned) reclen) != reclen)
X {
X printf("Error reading block %d\n", thisrec);
X exit(1);
X }
#endif
X }
#ifndef TIME
X printf("\nstop timing\n");
#endif
#ifdef TIME
X readtime = time_so_far() - starttime;
X if (!auto_mode)
X {
X printf("%f seconds\n", readtime);
X }
#ifdef DEBUG_ME
X readtime = 1;
X writetime = 1;
#endif
X if(readtime!=0)
X {
X filebytes = numrecs* (unsigned long) reclen;
X readrate = (unsigned long) ((double) filebytes / readtime);
X writerate = (unsigned long) ((double) filebytes / writetime);
X if (auto_mode)
X {
X printf(CONTROL_STRING1,
X megabytes,
X reclen,
X writerate,
X readrate);
X
X } else {
X printf("\nIOZONE performance measurements:\n");
X printf("\t%ld bytes/second for writing the file\n", writerate);
X printf("\t%ld bytes/second for reading the file\n", readrate);
X totaltime = readtime + writetime;
X if (totaltime < TOOFAST)
X {
X goodmegs = (TOOFAST/totaltime)*2*megabytes;
X printf("\nThe test completed too quickly to give a good result\n");
X printf("You will get a more precise measure of this machine's\n");
X printf("performance by re-running IOZONE using the command:\n");
X printf("\n\tiozone %ld ", goodmegs);
X printf("\t(i.e., file size = %ld megabytes)\n", goodmegs);
X }
X }
X } else {
X goodrecl = reclen/2;
X printf("\nI/O error during read. Try again with the command:\n");
X printf("\n\tiozone %ld %ld ", megabytes, goodrecl);
X printf("\t(i.e. record size = %ld bytes)\n", goodrecl);
X }
#endif
X close(fd);
#ifndef VMS
#ifndef NO_DELETE
X unlink(filename); /* delete the file */
#endif
X /*stop timer*/
#endif
#ifdef usecalloc
X free(buffer); /* deallocate the memory */
#endif
#ifdef VMS
X return SS$_NORMAL;
#else
X return 0;
#endif
}
/******************************************************************
X
X SHOW_HELP -- show development help of this program
X
X ******************************************************************/
void
X show_help()
{
X int i;
X printf("IOZONE: help mode\n\n");
X for(i=0; strlen(help[i]); i++)
X {
X printf("%s\n", help[i]);
X }
}
/******************************************************************
X
X SIGNAL_HANDLER -- clean up if user interrupts the program
X
X ******************************************************************/
void
X signal_handler()
{
X printf("\nIOZONE: interrupted\n\n");
#ifndef VMS
#ifndef NO_DELETE
X printf("deleting file: %s\n", filename);
X unlink(filename); /* delete the file */
#endif
#endif
X printf("exiting IOzone\n\n");
X exit(0);
}
/******************************************************************
X
X AUTO_TEST -- perform series of tests and tabulate results
X
X ******************************************************************/
void
X auto_test()
{
X
X int megsi, recszi;
X char megs[10];
X char recsz[10];
X int i,j;
X int autoArgc = 3;
X char *autoArgv[3];
X
X printf("IOZONE: auto-test mode\n\n");
X printf(CONTROL_STRING2,
X "MB",
X "reclen",
X "bytes/sec written",
X "bytes/sec read");
X autoArgv[0] = "IOzone auto-test";
X autoArgv[1] = megs;
X autoArgv[2] = recsz;
X /*
X Start with file size of 1 megabyte and repeat the test MEGABYTES_ITER_LIMIT
X times. Each time we run, the file size is doubled
X */
X for(i=0,megsi=1;i<MEGABYTES_ITER_LIMIT;i++,megsi*=2)
X {
X sprintf(megs, "%d", megsi);
X /*
X Start with record size of 512 bytes and repeat the test RECLEN_ITER_LIMIT
X times. Each time we run, the record size is doubled
X */
X for (j=0,recszi=512;j<RECLEN_ITER_LIMIT;j++,recszi*=2)
X {
X sprintf(recsz, "%d", recszi);
#ifdef ANSI_MAIN
X main(autoArgc, autoArgv, NULL);
#else
X main(autoArgc, autoArgv);
#endif
X }
X }
}
X
#ifdef TIME
/******************************************************************
X
X TIME_SO_FAR -- return elapsed time
X
X 5/17/91 Bill Norcott V1.07 -- use time() for VMS
X The times() function in VMS returns proc & user CPU time in 10-millisecond
X ticks. Instead, use time() which lacks the precision but gives clock
X time in seconds.
X V1.14 make val of type clock_t if we are dealing with POSIX
X V1.15 first time this is called, set base to initial number of clock
X ticks, then subtract this value from all subsequent calculations. This
X will fix a loss of precision when times returns very big numbers;
X
X Here is what we check for (in order). Each returns so we do not
X have to nest the #ifdefs -- should satisfy even the dumbest
X pre-processor. Note that each has its own flavor of timekeeping
X 1. ANSI C
X 2. POSIX - with and without CLK_TCK defined
X 3. System V variants
X 4. MS-DOS
X 5. BSD variants
X ******************************************************************/
double
X time_so_far()
{
#if defined(ANSItime)
X return (double) time(NULL);
#endif
X
#ifdef isposix
X {
X static clock_t base, val;
X struct tms tms;
X
X if (base == 0)
X {
X base = times(&tms);
X if (base == (clock_t) -1)
X {
X perror("times");
X }
X }
X val = times(&tms);
X if (val == (clock_t) -1)
X {
X perror("times");
X }
X val = val - base;
#ifndef CLK_TCK
X return ((double) val) / ((double) sysconf(_SC_CLK_TCK));
#else
X return ((double) val) / ((double) CLK_TCK);
#endif
X }
#endif
X
#ifdef SysVtime
X {
X static long base, val;
X struct tms tms;
X
X if (base == 0)
X {
X if ((base = times(&tms)) == -1)
X {
X perror("times");
X }
X }
X if ((val = times(&tms)) == -1)
X {
X perror("times");
X }
X val = val - base;
X return ((double) val) / ((double) CLK_TCK);
X }
#endif
X
#if defined(MSDOS)
X return ((double) clock()) / ((double) CLK_TCK);
#endif
X
#ifdef BSDtime
X {
X struct timeval tp;
X
X if (gettimeofday(&tp, (struct timezone *) NULL) == -1)
X perror("gettimeofday");
X return ((double) (tp.tv_sec)) +
X (((double) tp.tv_usec) / 1000000.0);
X }
#endif
}
#endif
SHAR_EOF
chmod 0640 iozone.c ||
echo 'restore of iozone.c failed'
Wc_c="`wc -c < 'iozone.c'`"
test 35038 -eq "$Wc_c" ||
echo 'iozone.c: original size 35038, current size' "$Wc_c"
fi
exit 0
From: gwh@j51.com (Gene Homicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Message-ID: <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com>
Date: 24 Jun 94 12:57:47 GMT
References: <1994Jun22.030337.2520@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Organization: TZ-Link, a public-access online community based in Nyack, NY.
In article <1994Jun22.030337.2520@nntpxfer.psi.com>,
Brian Hess <bnh@active> wrote:
+---
|FaxBack number listed as 800-526-4345, but I checked and it doesn't
|have any info yet on this product. Person to talk to listed as
|800-349-6007. Hopefully the expo will generate more concrete info!
+---
FaxBack documents 8001 and 8002 are both about the object.station.
They provide specs and a somewhat fuzzy picture, but no prices. Looks
pretty nice, but at the price...I'll wait for the Pentium version
thank you very much.
--Gene
gwh@j51.com
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Screen Savers
Date: 24 Jun 1994 14:53:16 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <2ues0t$mbv@news.bu.edu>
My attitude about screen savers is that pretty much they amount to some very
nice eye candy (especially some of the more interesting backsapce modules :-)
And I know that in theory they protect monitors and prevent screen burn-in, but
pausing to give it a few seconds of thought and closely examing my screen
(which is avery nice Nanao monitor). What's the point of a screen saver
preventing burn-in, when certain images such as the doc for example, are
nearly always in the same place, displaying exactly the same images, day
after day. Sure enough when I take a closer look, there is a very fine,
barely visible line of slightly whiter/more opaque pixels, over where the
doc usually is, if I dim the monitor and take a closer look. Now I haven't
bothered to eamine it when its been off for a couple of hours, and the
strip may fade, but really, a LOT of the screen spends much of its time,
displaying the same contents (the workplace manager, when I'm editing text
there is a pane of whiteness with some black text over it, which more or
less doesn't move, and stays in place ofor hours at a time, etc)...
Do screen savers really serve any purpose anymore, or for that matter did
they ever?
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Byte Benchmarks Dell Dimension XPS P90 [Intel]
Date: 24 Jun 1994 16:17:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2uf0v5$rt7@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2ucfad$4i8@ionews.io.org>
To work on the PCI bus, the #9GXE needs to have the correct RAMDAC, and,
in the bootup utilities, the PCI window needs to be set to its largest
value (48K, I think). DELL will switch the #9 card if you have one with
the incorrect RAMDAC.
/ivo
In article <2ucfad$4i8@ionews.io.org> marko@r-node.io.org (Mark R.
Onyschuk) writes:
> Mark Onyschuk (mark@oa.guild.org) wrote:
> : Here are the results of running the Byte Unix Benchmark on a Dell
> : Dimension XPS P90 running NEXTSTEP. The disk interface used on the
system
> : is Dell's PCI *IDE* rather than SCSI, which is more common with
NEXTSTEP
> : systems.
>
> After having run this benchmark, I proceeded to try to change the video
> selection inside Configure.app to something better than 640*480*2 :-)
>
> But, I'm having a problem (sheepish grin). The machine has a Number9GXE
> with the S3-*928* chipset on the PCI bus, and a more careful look at the
> Compatability Guide states that this graphics adapter is said to work on
> the VL bus, rather than PCI.
>
> Here are the errors I receive on the Console at bootup, when not using
the
> config=Default switch:
>
> Jun 23 [...]: Registering: Display0
> Jun 23 [...]: About to receive 1291 bytes of VPCode!
> Jun 23 [...]: Received 512 bytes of VPCode!
> Jun 23 [...]: Received 512 bytes of VPCode!
> Jun 23 [...]: Received 267 bytes of VPCode!
> Jun 23 [...]: Display0: Selected mode is invalid.
> Jun 23 [...]: Display0: IOVPCodeDisplay: Initialized.
>
> Is there a fix for this problem?
>
> Regards,
> Mark
--
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: bf148@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Shad Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSI 3.2 + TsengET4000W32 = only grayscale display?
Date: 24 Jun 1994 17:11:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2uf43f$k5p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Uisng the ET4000 driver off the NSI 3.2 cd-rom on a NEC 466 with an
ET400W32 chipset w/ 1 MB VRAM I can only get a 2-bit grayscale
display. I reied downloading a new driver from ftp.next but that one
seems to require a ET4000W32i or W32p chipset. Does anyone know of
a driver that might give me color? BTW, i have 16 MB installed in the
machine.
Thanks very much for your help,
Shad
--
.;:=/||_|00)\..
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 24 Jun 1994 17:26:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uf508INNhlb@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> <2uab23INNhcc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2uacig$2chh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> <1994Jun23.042900.8527@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <2udh8b$2de6@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
In article <2udh8b$2de6@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>, john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) writes:
|>
|> Okay, I wasn't quite clear on what I had in mind. Yes, NEXTSTEP buffers
|> the full screen in RAM, and does all the video processing. It still has
|> to shove the video (at least the changes to the image) across whatever
|> bus there is to the video card. The video card does hold the full screen
|> image for display out to the screen. My guess is that the video performance
|> is so much better because it doesn't have to shove video data across
|> that bus (VL, PCI) for display. It sounds to me like they've directly
|> linked the VRAM onto the memory bus of the CPU. That should imporove
|> things greatly when moving windows around & such.
But VL already is nothing more than the 486 system (memory) bus, to the point
where it is even physically driven by the CPU pins. It is physically
impossible to get a more direct linkage to the CPU than VL already provides
on 486 systems (on Pentium systems it's usually buffered which leads to an
extra wait state). In practice, PCI seems to offer equivalent video
performance (compared to VL, which is itself a direct connection to the
video bus) on 486 systems, so I fail to see what Canon has achieved here
besides a PR coup.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Message-ID: <1994Jun24.200806.16316@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <2uf508INNhlb@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 20:08:06 GMT
In article <2uf508INNhlb@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick
Chase) writes:
> [Info about VL bus deleted]
> In practice, PCI seems to offer equivalent video
> performance (compared to VL, which is itself a direct connection to the
> video bus) on 486 systems, so I fail to see what Canon has achieved here
> besides a PR coup.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
>H-P San Diego
The video subsystem in the Canon object.station has an attribute shared by only
1 other NEXTSTEP PC, the DELL JAWS (which is also know for its good display
performance). Namely, it implements a 4 bit per component pixel structure
(444). That is, 4 bits each of R, G, & B when running in 16 bit mode. The
NeXTstation color also uses a 444 layout. Most PC display cards implement 16
bpp as either 655 or 555. All NS/FIP drivers use the 555 mode. Within each 5
bit component, 1 bit is effectively unused giving a total of 4 meaningful bits
per component.
This is interesting because the Window Server's internal representation for 16
bit framebuffers is 444. When displaying on a 555 framebuffer, there is a
little extra work that happens on flushes. Systems with 444 framebuffers (like
the Canon and the DELL) avoid this added overhead. I can't give you a number
for this overhead (I just don't remember, but it is measurable). This is one of
the design choices that Canon made in order to make a very nicely performing
machine for NS/FIP.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 24 Jun 1994 20:49:43 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <2ufgt7$1qsi@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> <1994Jun23.042900.8527@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <2udh8b$2de6@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> <2uf508INNhlb@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
In article <2uf508INNhlb@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>,
Patrick Chase <patrick@sdd.hp.com> wrote:
>
>But VL already is nothing more than the 486 system (memory) bus, to the point
>where it is even physically driven by the CPU pins. It is physically
>impossible to get a more direct linkage to the CPU than VL already provides
>on 486 systems (on Pentium systems it's usually buffered which leads to an
>extra wait state). In practice, PCI seems to offer equivalent video
>performance (compared to VL, which is itself a direct connection to the
>video bus) on 486 systems, so I fail to see what Canon has achieved here
>besides a PR coup.
>
Ahhh... I hadn't realized that. So the performance increase with the Canon
should be all that spectacular eliminating just the xfer from buffered RAM
image to VRAM across the bus. A small improvement, perhaps, but as much as
people have said... maybe not.
john
--
john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 24 Jun 1994 21:18:47 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ufijnINNmll@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <2uf508INNhlb@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <1994Jun24.200806.16316@adobe.com>
In article <1994Jun24.200806.16316@adobe.com>, pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
|>
|> The video subsystem in the Canon object.station has an attribute shared by
|> only
|> 1 other NEXTSTEP PC, the DELL JAWS (which is also know for its good display
|> performance). Namely, it implements a 4 bit per component pixel structure
|> (444). That is, 4 bits each of R, G, & B when running in 16 bit mode. The
|> NeXTstation color also uses a 444 layout. Most PC display cards implement 16
|> bpp as either 655 or 555. All NS/FIP drivers use the 555 mode. Within each 5
|> bit component, 1 bit is effectively unused giving a total of 4 meaningful
|> bits per component.
|>
|> This is interesting because the Window Server's internal representation
|> for 16
|> bit framebuffers is 444. When displaying on a 555 framebuffer, there is a
|> little extra work that happens on flushes. Systems with 444 framebuffers
|> (like
|> the Canon and the DELL) avoid this added overhead. I can't give you a number
|> for this overhead (I just don't remember, but it is measurable). This is
|> one of
|> the design choices that Canon made in order to make a very nicely performing
|> machine for NS/FIP.
This makes quite a bit more sense. So why doesn't Canon just come out and
say that because they use the same display model as the Window Server, they
therefore save themselves the trouble of masking and shifting everything
before it goes out to the frame buffer? That BS about having a "direct
connection to the CPU", while technically true, is misleading in that they
also use it to explain their superior display performance. It sounds like
their performance results from not having to perform alignment operations.
I wonder if any PC display card vendor will ever come out with a PCI card
which uses a 444 frame-buffer representation (or has hardware assistance
to convert an incoming 444 pixel stream into whatever format it actually
uses...)
|> Joe Pasqua
|> Adobe Systems Incorporated
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 24 Jun 1994 08:28:40 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2ue1v8$2dv@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> <2ub6sd$jml@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>In article <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> colins@cs.mun.ca (Colin Stuckless) writes:
>>The 486s will be followed in a
>>couple of months by a series of NextStep-optimized Pentium
>>machines in both one- and two-processor configurations.
>
>2-processors?! Will the next version of NEXTSTEP (3.3) support
>symmetric multi-processing?
I hope so!
There's a nice Asus board with 2 Pentiums on it, and NT has already
shown that it benefits noticably from the second CPU.
Nextstep has to follow... BTW, the NS kernel already ran inhouse on
a Motorola 88k machine with 2 CPUs before NeXT closed their hardware
factory.
Markus.
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From: rharris@clark.net (Richard M. Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple CDROM Experience
Date: 25 Jun 1994 00:35:43 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
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From: rharris@clark.net (Richard M. Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AppleCD Experience
Date: 25 Jun 1994 00:55:52 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <2ufvao$8cg@clarknet.clark.net>
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Does anyone have experience to share (good or bad) in using the AppleCD
300 with the 68040 Cube and NS 3.0? I would like to have a CD ROM that
will also work with the PowerBook.
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From: rharris@clark.net (Richard M. Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AppleCD Experience
Date: 25 Jun 1994 01:47:51 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <2ug2c7$cfu@clarknet.clark.net>
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Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) to share on using the
AppleCD 300 with the 68040 Cube running NS 3.0? I would like to have a
CD-ROM that will also work with the PowerBook.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Subject: Need MegaPixel Schematic Model N400
Message-ID: <10.47587604.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:01:48 GMT
Need MegaPixel schematic. Model N400
If you can help. Please fax to (904) 455-0159 or call voice (904) 456-3333
and ask
From: Christine Hogan <ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:57:16 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8i2neQa00VI8MTXqdp@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com>
Hi
I called Canon for pricing. I asked for a general ballpark.
The response was "under $6500".
That is pretty pricey for a 486.
Chris
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 25 Jun 1994 07:03:59 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
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References: <2ufijnINNmll@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) writes:
> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
> |>
> |> The video subsystem in the Canon object.station has an attribute
> |> shared by only 1 other NEXTSTEP PC, the DELL JAWS (which is also
> |> know for its good display performance). Namely, it implements a
> |> 4 bit per component pixel structure (444). That is, 4 bits each
> |> of R, G, & B when running in 16 bit mode. The NeXTstation color
> |> also uses a 444 layout. Most PC display cards implement 16 bpp
> |> as either 655 or 555.
> |> This is interesting because the Window Server's internal
> |> representation for 16 bit framebuffers is 444.
> I wonder if any PC display card vendor will ever come out with
> a PCI card which uses a 444 frame-buffer representation (or has
> hardware assistance to convert an incoming 444 pixel stream into
> whatever format it actually uses...)
It might also be nice if the windowserver was handling 555 instead
of 444. Wouldn't the extra colors make a big difference when viewing
color pictures? (such as photo CD's) It'd be better than the current
444 setup for 16-bit color, but not as expensive as going all the way
to 32-bit color (or 24-bit color, really).
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Still Digital Camera
Message-ID: <1994Jun24.140744.2236@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 14:07:44 GMT
A couple of years, or maybe last year at Expo, they had a still digital
camera. I am looking for such a solution now. I am working with a Doctor
who wants to capture a picture of the patient and drop it in their chart.
Please let me know if you are capturing any pictures.
Thanks
Wes Spears
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From: tkao@iastate.edu (Tsun-Ming Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: hard drive
Date: 25 Jun 94 13:41:29 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <tkao.772551689@vincent2.iastate.edu>
I would appreciate anyone can help me with this problem. I just got a old
Maxtor SCSI hard drive from my friend, and try to install it on my black
machine, but I have no clue if they are compatible or not. It's a 245mb SCSI
hard drive from Maxtor. I think it's SCSI2, but I am not sure.
Thanks in advance
Daniel,
--
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From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone installed a Seagate drive in a cube?
Date: 25 Jun 1994 12:30:00 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <2uht38$319a@argo.unm.edu>
References: <2tadrb$2q3v@argo.unm.edu> <940611222750.3275AAC6K.info@barkley> <2tglk3$151u@argo.unm.edu> <DJOHNSON.94Jun16013212@cayenne.gac.edu>
>Thanks, Dave and Chip. Actually, I called the hotline AND looked in my manual,
>.but I still don't have things quite working the way they should. I tried
>.running the drive with jumpers set both to power only the drive terminators and
>.to power them off the SCSI buss, but every time I think I've got it the drive
>.begins to get sense errors at some point. Can you tell me exactly how you had
>.your other jumpers configured? I pulled this drive out of my Indigo 2, and
>.I've begun to realize that the two configurations are pretty wildly different.
>>Hullo. I just installed a nice new ST31200N into my cube w' more
>>than a little difficulty. I tried just about every semi-logical
>>jumper combination I could, and nothing worked. (It didn't help that
>>the manual for the drive contained a fatal semantic error in the
>>jumper-setting instructions.) Anyway after much hair pulling I
>>discovered that the optical drive was somehow preventing the computer
>>from remembering that it had successfully recognised the new drive
>>(giving me scads of variations on "SCSI error"). So I disconnected
>>the OD and everything worked fine. I formatted the drive, installed
>>NS, plugged the OD back in, and now my computer's life is very good.
>>(credit, btw, goes to the friendly people at Bell Atlantic, who
>>figured out what was wrong with about the worst and shortest
>>description of the symptoms that I can imagine)
>>I dunno if any of this applies to you, but hey.
Gosh, I was so hopeful when I read the first line...but I removed the optical
before I did anything else. This morning I tried installing an active
terminator; the lights operate normally but the drive basically eats itself.
Fsck has trouble writing corrections to the disk, and I get long lists of
sense errors when I boot.
Anyone know what's going on?
Thanks!
Dave
>>Good luck! --Dan
I seem to need it.
From: adguys@aol.com (Adguys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 25 Jun 1994 11:57:14 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
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References: <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com>
In article <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com>, gwh@j51.com (Gene Homicki) writes:
"FaxBack documents 8001 and 8002 are both about the
object.station.They provide specs and a somewhat fuzzy picture, but
no prices."
More data is apparently going to be available within a few days via
fax. In the meantime, call the voice 800# 800-349-6007. They are (get
this) smart and friendly on the phone.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Good CDROM drive for black and white???
Message-ID: <1994Jun25.173005.3935@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 17:30:05 GMT
Whats the best CD-ROM dive I can get for both black and white hardware.
I would like to read multi-session photo cds....
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Director: Kentucky NeXTSTEP Users Group
Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology
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From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Adaptec 1542C troubles
Message-ID: <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 17:34:20 GMT
Help!
I have a Gateway P5-60 that has an Adaptec 1542C SCSI adapter on it but I cant
get NS/FIP up on it.
When I use the driver on the floppy it simply reports that no SCSI drive found.
The one from ftp.next.com goes nuts with repeating the following message
: thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735
What to do?
---
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Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Director: Kentucky NeXTSTEP Users Group
Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology
From: grey@futon.SFSU.EDU (Herbert Leong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Good CDROM drive for black and white???
Date: 25 Jun 1994 20:00:36 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <2ui2d4$9cr@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <1994Jun25.173005.3935@bMD.com>
In article <1994Jun25.173005.3935@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
>Whats the best CD-ROM dive I can get for both black and white hardware.
>
>I would like to read multi-session photo cds....
>
One of the various NEC muli-speed CD-Roms would/should work for ya...
I have not had any large problems other than with prototypes...
/herb
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From: mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (mengpao cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Question]:Quantum SCSI HD format problem???
Date: 25 Jun 1994 23:47:44 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Message-ID: <2uifn0$s2h@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
References: <2tglk3$151u@argo.unm.edu> <DJOHNSON.94Jun16013212@cayenne.gac.edu> <2uht38$319a@argo.unm.edu>
Hello,
I just bought a Quantum LPS540S SCSI HD installed on my NS/FIP system.
However, after I setup the partition table and use "disk -i /dev/rsd1h" to
initialize the driver, I only get 448MB left on my HD. I look at the partition
table (I set all free space for NeXT) which shown 516MB free space on the HD.
How come I lost almost 50MB after I initialize the driver???
Any suggestions welcome....
Rueiwun Tu
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 26 Jun 1994 00:01:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
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References: <2ufijnINNmll@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2ugkt0$2in@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <2ugkt0$2in@usenet.rpi.edu>, gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
|> patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) writes:
|> > I wonder if any PC display card vendor will ever come out with
|> > a PCI card which uses a 444 frame-buffer representation (or has
|> > hardware assistance to convert an incoming 444 pixel stream into
|> > whatever format it actually uses...)
|>
|> It might also be nice if the windowserver was handling 555 instead
|> of 444. Wouldn't the extra colors make a big difference when viewing
|> color pictures? (such as photo CD's) It'd be better than the current
|> 444 setup for 16-bit color, but not as expensive as going all the way
|> to 32-bit color (or 24-bit color, really).
The 444 representation is convenient for a couple of reasons. The most
important is that they can include a 4-bit alpha channel in the internal
representation and still fit all of the display information for a pixel
in 16 bits. This in turn means that they can process 2 pixels at a time on
a 32-bit processor like the x86 or HP-PA instead of one. Going to a 555
representation would require 20 bits per pixel with alpha in the internal
representation. Since packing on non-byte boundaries is extremely expensive
in processor cycles, they'd probably have to use a 24- or 32-bit structure
for each pixel (most likely the latter, since alignment on 32-bit boundaries
gives better performance on most 32-bit processors) . At that point you've
incurred both the processor and memory demands of true 32-bit color in order
to get a measely 5 bits per pixel and 4 bits of Alpha channel. Why not just
do 32 bits instead (8 bits per primary, 8 bit alpha)?
|> --
|> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
|> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
|> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Question]:Quantum SCSI HD format problem???
Date: 25 Jun 1994 18:00:01 -0700
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
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References: <2tglk3$151u@argo.unm.edu> <DJOHNSON.94Jun16013212@cayenne.gac.edu> <2uht38$319a@argo.unm.edu> <2uifn0$s2h@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
In article <2uifn0$s2h@news.ccit.arizona.edu>,
mengpao cheng <mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU> wrote:
> I just bought a Quantum LPS540S SCSI HD installed on my NS/FIP system.
>However, after I setup the partition table and use "disk -i /dev/rsd1h" to
>initialize the driver, I only get 448MB left on my HD. I look at the partition
>table (I set all free space for NeXT) which shown 516MB free space on the HD.
>How come I lost almost 50MB after I initialize the driver???
This sounds like somewhat standard behavior - about 10% of the filesystem is
set aside as overflow space, to make things work more efficiently. It's
possible to fill your disk to 111% full before you absolutely cannot write
to it at all anymore.
You'll see this behavior on pretty much every unix system. I think you can
change the 10% value by using mkfs directly, but I wouldn't recommend it.
>Rueiwun Tu
-Adam Beeman
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From: garton@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Bradford Garton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone using a Dell Dimension XPS P90?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 03:44:39 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Electronic Music Center
Message-ID: <2uitj7$l6u@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I'm planning to get some Pentium 90 Mhz system this week, and the Dell
prices look awfully good. Anyone have any experience running NextStep on
these guys? I'm particularly interested in sound i/o and high disk xfer
rates. Us musicians, what do we care about graphics? :-)
thanks --
Brad Garton
music department
garton@columbia.edu
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Message-ID: <CryAIo.109@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1994Jun22.030337.2520@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:27:59 GMT
In article <1994Jun22.030337.2520@nntpxfer.psi.com> bnh@active (Brian Hess)
writes:
#Canon has a glued-in brochure for their new "object.station" in this
#week's "PC Week" magazine. This was the first time I've seen a
#picture of it, or any marketing literature from Canon. The flyer is
#very slim on any technical details. They say it's a 486, with
#in-house engineered video system, 1120x832 "and beyond". They also
#say the CD-ROM is optional, keyboard has sound and brightness keys
#(but not power), and has built-in audio, SCSI, and LAN adapters
#(doesn't say which are on-motherboard). Comes with NS and the 30-day
#expiring SoftPC pre-installed. No info about disk sizes, nor actual
#hardware components inside, nor prices.
#
#Yes, it's white.
They had a black one at the Expo.
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From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: HP35470 2 Gig DAT drive work?
Message-ID: <1994Jun26.030726.13264@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <2trdku$et@crl2.crl.com> <1994Jun20.183139.8153@nntpxfer.psi.com> <1994Jun24.065818.13244@kpc.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 03:07:26 GMT
Rick Fadden (rfadden@thorn.kpc.com) wrote:
: Given an Adaptec (like yours) and a SCSI DAT drive, how do you set
: up the SCSI tape driver?
Uhh,... The SCSI Tape Driver *doesn't have* any configuration options in
Configure.app. You just "Add..." it in the "Other" section, and it
just works, with the caveats:
1) run "setmtd /dev/rst0" before use (with the H-P model in question),
2) the drive must be hooked up and powered on when you boot the system.
(Yeah, sorry about my header; I can't convince "tin" to enter the full
domain, so I always include my proper, full address in the signature-->)
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Active Ingredients, Inc.
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From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Japan: sound-capable machines?
Message-ID: <1994Jun24.224146.907@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <2udd4m$8rj@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 22:41:46 GMT
In article <2udd4m$8rj@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi
Ohzawa) writes:
>>>
>>> [stuff about
>> having NS s PC in Japan]
>>
>
> Canon sells PC's preloaded with NS 3.2J.
^^^^^^^^
Yes, but the price is very "loaded" too... (and even no academical prices)
> --
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> USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
> Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
> (NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
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From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Subject: NeXT Cube Beginner Needs SCSI Help
Message-ID: <1.47589976.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 19:16:07 GMT
Hi, All
Here we go. Got a 030 NeXT Cube with a Quantium 105lp in it with NextStep
3.0.
I had an extra Quantium 170 hooked up on my Macintosh. Discconnected it from
the mac and put it on the NeXT. Started the NeXT and the 170 HD was mounted
on the
NeXT desktop with the mac file system and you could see all the files. I
then went
to init the 170 HD to the NeXT file system and got errors.
write error: 166807
wtfs: I/O error
/usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd2a failed (status 1)
Now the funny thing is. I then disconnect the drive from the NeXT put it back
on the Macintosh and it formats right up. Put it back on the NeXT and it
mounts ok
with the Macintosh file system. I'm using a standard mac SCSI 25-25 pin
cable.
Help
Mark Pappas
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How about Canon offering an upgrade?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 16:22:36 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uka0cINNaoc@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Keywords: upgrade, slabs,cubes, Canon
I wish Canon would offer some type of upgrade in the near
future for both slabs and cubes, especially if Powerhouse
ever gets its act together and releases a PowerPC machine.
I wonder if HP would be willing to offer a hardware upgrade
for slabs and possibly cubes. These would be a good way to
get a lot of people using NS/HP quickly. If Canon isn't
interested in this market, they should a least make the
hardware chips available to some third party for upgrade `
purposes. Customers that helped Next get going deserve some
type of consideration (imho).
Bruce Patton
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How about Canon offering an upgrade?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 16:59:32 GMT
Organization: MCNC/NC-REN
Distribution: world
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References: <2uka0cINNaoc@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
In article <2uka0cINNaoc@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce
Wayne Patton) writes:
> I wish Canon would offer some type of upgrade in the near
> future for both slabs and cubes, especially if Powerhouse
> ever gets its act together and releases a PowerPC machine.
Let's clear this up right now...Canon Computer Systems, Inc. (makers of the
object.station) and Powerhouse (makers of the forthcoming PowerPC box are two
entirely different entities.
> I wonder if HP would be willing to offer a hardware upgrade
> for slabs and possibly cubes. These would be a good way to
> get a lot of people using NS/HP quickly.
Resellers of HP Workstations (such as ourselves) are already able to take black
hardware in on trade toward HP workstations.
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 26 Jun 1994 16:59:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ukc4l$npa@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <8i2neQa00VI8MTXqdp@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <8i2neQa00VI8MTXqdp@andrew.cmu.edu> Christine Hogan
<ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Hi
>
> I called Canon for pricing. I asked for a general ballpark.
> The response was "under $6500".
>
> That is pretty pricey for a 486.
>
From the Expo:
object.station 41 Deployment System - $4,900.00
- 486 DX4/100 upgradeable to Pentium Overdrive with 16 kb internal and
256 kb external write-through caches
- 16 MB RAM (96 MB max)
- 500 MB Fast SCSI-2 HD
- Proprietary video with 2 MB VRAM capable of 1280 x 1024 16-bit color at
72 Hz. max vertical refresh rate
- Integrated 32-bit Ethernet on VL bus
- Integrated 32-bit Fast SCSI-2 on VL bus
- Integrated CD-quality audio, speaker, microphone with voice annotation
and recognition software
- 1.44 MB floppy
- NEXTSTEP-specific keyboard
- PS/2-style mouse
- Preloaded NEXTSTEP User, MS-DOS, and MS-Windows
- Slim-line chassis with side-entry removable media
- Multi-fan Noise Reduction System
- Intelligent monitor energy-saver mode
- 3 ISA and 1 VL/ISA internal expansion slots
- 1 parallel and 2 serial ports
- External video, headphone, microphone, stereo speaker, and auxiliary
multimedia device jacks
- 1 5.25" half-height, floppy, and 2 3.5" third-height or 1 3.5"
half-height drive bays
- Power-on password
- Easy thumb-screw service access
object.station 41 Developer System - $8,900.00
- Deployment System plus the following:
- 32 MB RAM
- 1 GB Fast SCSI-2 HD
- Double-spin internal CD-ROM drive
- Preinstalled NEXTSTEP Developer
17" low-emissions 0.26 dot pitch color monitor - $1,180.00
21" low-emissions 0.28 dot pitch color monitor - $2,080.00
So while the price may seem high, it includes the cost of NEXTSTEP as
well as a lot of nice high-end features that make the system more like a
NeXTstation than a typical PC.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: michelle@meaddata.com (Michelle Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone using a Dell Dimension XPS P90?
Date: 26 Jun 1994 19:44:21 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Message-ID: <2uklql$56a@meaddata.meaddata.com>
References: <2uitj7$l6u@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I am interested also. To me, graphics in 16 bit color is very
very important. Does the 64 bit #9GXE card shipped with the system work
with NeXTstep?
- Michelle
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From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
Subject: Sound Board
Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca
Message-ID: <Crz3G8.3F9@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 21:52:56 GMT
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
If anyone is still looking for a decent sound card for their PC, I would
recommend the MS Windows Sound System. It is the only one I've tried that
actually works (both the Logitec and PAS have problems with sounds, ie. Glass
and Rooster don't sound right). The MSS has no problems with any sounds
I've played. It works great with NEXTIME also. It costs a little bit more
than the other boards, but it works!
Tim
From: traderdec@aol.com (TraderDec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Trade you NeXT for a color Mac
Date: 26 Jun 1994 17:40:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2uksjh$5ij@search01.news.aol.com>
Macs for Turbo NeXT trade
We are converting an office to NeXT but they have Macs (most new) so
how about an even swap.
Trade::: Turbo Mono NeXT 16/250 17" Mon, Mouse & Keys
For::: Color Mac Centris 610 4/230 14" Color Monitor Extended Keys &
Mouse
Trade::: Turbo Color NeXT 16/250 17" Mon, Mouse & Keys
For::: Centris 660 AV 4/230, 14" Color Monitor, Extended Keys & Mouse
Trade::: Turbo Dimension 16/32/400 17" Mon, Mouse & Keys
For::: PowerMac 6100 16/230 14" Color Mon, Mouse & Keys
Non turbo NeXTs considered if they have something extra in the way of
configuration or peripherals
Packages can be upgraded to 17" Mac Monitors also if they have extra
stuff in the way of configuration or peripherals.
Systems Shipped UPS & Insured
NON Local trades (Washington DC) shipped COD and traded system are
shipped COD both for same amount. (Unless NeXT shipped first and
inspected then I'll pay shipping both ways)
MACs come with software installed
ClarisWorks, Photoshop & Prince of Persia II (Game) installed
(THE MACHINES MUST BE IN PRISTINE CONDITION)
Email or Call 202-298-0716
(Hey you never know)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec1542B iozone performance
Date: 26 Jun 1994 10:51:01 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2ujj25$27s@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CrvpAo.B45@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
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Keywords: iozone disk performance
mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) writes:
>On my 486DXII/66 machine, Adaptec 1542C I get (using the latest 1542B driver):
>> iozone 8
>> . . .
>> Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...29.201305 seconds
>> Reading the file...36.390792 seconds
>>
>> IOZONE performance measurements:
>> 287268 bytes/second for writing the file
>> 230514 bytes/second for reading the file
>On an equivalent 486DXII/66 running BSDi, on an Adaptec 1542B, my friend gets:
>> iozone 8
>> . . .
>> Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...7.916667 seconds
>> Reading the file...7.016667 seconds
>>
>> IOZONE performance measurements:
>> 1059613 bytes/second for writing the file
>> 1195526 bytes/second for reading the file
Hmmm... I get very strange results with my DPT2022 EISA (no cache),
DEC DSP3053L harddisk:
Test 1: 8 MB file
Writing the 8 Megabyte file, '/tmp/testfile'...6.267447 seconds
Reading the file...1.582731 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
1338440 bytes/second for writing the file
5300084 bytes/second for reading the file
Test 2: 32 MB file
Writing the 32 Megabyte file, '/tmp/testfile'...27.837485 seconds
Reading the file...21.246881 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
1205368 bytes/second for writing the file
1579263 bytes/second for reading the file
Markus.
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From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: AppleCD Experience
Message-ID: <Cs11q6.Buo@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <2ug2c7$cfu@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 23:10:30 GMT
In article <2ug2c7$cfu@clarknet.clark.net> rharris@clark.net (Richard M.
Harris) writes:
> Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) to share on using the
> AppleCD 300 with the 68040 Cube running NS 3.0? I would like to have a
> CD-ROM that will also work with the PowerBook.
>
> --
> ***Mike Harris
Yep, works fine
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ?EATA TIMEOUT ever fixed
Date: 27 Jun 1994 00:11:20 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2ul5f8$ka2@gamera.umd.edu>
Keywords: EATA,NS3.2
Any news on a bugfix for the EISA bus based DPT cards spuriously causing system
hangs in NS3.2 after saying "EATA timeout"??
Thanks.
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From: s9405919@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Kin Wah Eddie Kong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT color printer Help
Date: 27 Jun 1994 03:15:39 GMT
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia.
Message-ID: <2ulg8r$lnv@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU>
Thanks.
Regards,
Eddie Kong.
From: s9405919@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Kin Wah Eddie Kong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help NeXT Color printer
Date: 27 Jun 1994 03:30:25 GMT
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Australia.
Message-ID: <2ulh4h$lu6@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU>
I am using a NeXT color printer. It did very well on A4 size. But when I
want to print A3. It come out only A4 width and with the A3 length. I have
try to print out on FreeHand and Pasteup but the result is the same. Is it
the bug on NS 3.0 or software. I am using the NeXt colorstation with NS 3.0.
Please advise if any suggestion. Thanks,
Regards.
Eddie.
From: cooncat@mills.edu (Jessica Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel/SupraFax modems for black hardware?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 04:51:05 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland, CA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2ullrp$d54@agate.berkeley.edu>
I need to run my 040 3.0 NeXT as a dialup X client. I have a NeXT modem
cable already, but it doesn't work with my current modem, so I have a few
questions:
Someone over at NeXT told me that they use an Intel modem for fax and data
happily, have any of you had any experience with this? Does it really work?
I remember reading somewhere that one of The Modems people use with NeXTs is
a SupraFax--is this true? Have any of you used one of those for faxing and
GUI data?
Also I'd like to know what kind of port NeXT compatible modems need--Bell Atlantic
didn't know. I know it's not an RS232. Also, does the serial port support speeds
higher than 9600?
Please respond to cooncat@ella.mills.edu, since I have a hard time reading the
newsnet these days. Sorry, can't receive NeXTmail right now!
thank you
thank you!
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jessica L Mosher >>In Limbo<< cooncat@ella.mills.edu
NeXTmail and email:cooncat@mingus.mills.edu
From: chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC SilentWriter 1097 printers and NextStep
Date: 27 Jun 94 02:23:11
Organization: Cornell University
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I'm about to order a NEC Silentwriter 1097 printer (10 ppm, 600 DPI, PS2.0, 7 megs RAM, P/S/AppleTalk) for use with NSfip. Any pitfalls, tips, advice I should be aware of about this printer or 600 DPI PS printers in general with NextStep?
Thanks.
- Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer)
Subject: Re: Help NeXT Color printer
Message-ID: <1994Jun27.124058.645@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de
Organization: NeXAPP
References: <2ulh4h$lu6@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 12:40:58 GMT
In article <2ulh4h$lu6@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> s9405919@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU
(Kin Wah Eddie Kong) writes:
#
#I am using a NeXT color printer. It did very well on A4 size. But when I
#want to print A3. It come out only A4 width and with the A3 length. I have
#try to print out on FreeHand and Pasteup but the result is the same. Is it
#the bug on NS 3.0 or software. I am using the NeXt colorstation with NS 3.0.
#Please advise if any suggestion. Thanks,
#Regards.
#Eddie.
There ist no FreeHand on NeXTSTEP so I think you talk about _Virtuoso.app_.
But this works fine for me. I use OS 3.2 and the NeXT C-printer and a
C-Station. Look at the options in the printer panel. Virtuoso.app has much
more otions than most other Apps.
so long
*** perstoro ***
BTW.: There ist no catch upgrading to 3.2. Everything gets fine AND
faster. NO problems!
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From: rpopp@ebigek01.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ruediger Popp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help NeXT Color printer
Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:48:51 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <2umlc3$igf@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <1994Jun27.124058.645@uriela.in-berlin.de>
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In article <1994Jun27.124058.645@uriela.in-berlin.de>
perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) writes:
> In article <2ulh4h$lu6@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> s9405919@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU
> (Kin Wah Eddie Kong) writes:
> #
> #I am using a NeXT color printer. It did very well on A4 size. But when I
> #want to print A3. It come out only A4 width and with the A3 length. I have
> #try to print out on FreeHand and Pasteup but the result is the same. Is it
> #the bug on NS 3.0 or software. I am using the NeXt colorstation with NS 3.0.
> #Please advise if any suggestion. Thanks,
> #Regards.
> #Eddie.
Use the tabloid paper format and it will work !
R. Popp
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Richard-Willstaetter-Allee 5, 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany
Phone: +49 721 608 2994 FAX : +49 721 69 30 19
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From: anjrober@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson)
Subject: Mac printers
Message-ID: <Cs29vI.LGK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 15:04:29 GMT
I have a NeXT cube and now have access to a Mac laser printer. Could someone
email me what I would need to do to hook up the printer. Thanks :-)
--
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From: Sid.Conklin@Forsythe (Sid Conklin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NCR SCSI Driver for NextStep?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 16:57:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
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I've heard that Next has a SCSI Driver for a DEC XL 560 PC with an NCR
on board SCSI. Does anybody know where I can get me hands on it? Please
email me direct, Sid.Conklin@forsythe.stanford.edu.
Thanks
----------------------------------------------
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Stanford University
415-723-7858
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Good CDROM drive for black and white???
Date: 27 Jun 1994 17:29:20 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2un29g$dil@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1994Jun25.173005.3935@bMD.com>
kevins@bmd.com writes:
> Whats the best CD-ROM dive I can get for both black and white
> hardware.
The Apple CD300 is a nice drive. Works fine for me, including
music CD's.
> I would like to read multi-session photo cds....
The CD300 will support multi-session CD's just fine, but I don't
believe that NeXTSTEP does yet. I don't think there is *any*
CD-ROM drive you can buy right now which will handle multi-session
CD's on NeXTSTEP.
Anyone know if NS-3.3 will include multi-session support?
--
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Configuring ET4000/W32i driver
Message-ID: <Jun.27.15.09.21.1994.26929@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 27 Jun 94 19:09:21 GMT
References: <2u816k$j58@wehil.wehi.edu.au>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
odonohue@kauai.ludwig.edu.au (Mark O'Donohue) writes:
>I have a ET4000/W32i local bus video card with 2M memory and a fairly
>advanced montior, but I cannot get the new device driver to work with it.
For some reason I cannot get my system to work in 1024X768/16bit mode either.
It will work in 800X600/16bit...
>PS: For anybody at NeXT - a keyboard shortcut key for selecting power off
> from the logon dialog would be handy, if the mouse does not work or the
> screen does not display the only way out is to turn the power off. This
> may be fine once in a while but when trying to configure the video driver
> as I am it means waiting for fsck to check the disks each time, and a
> the time it takes is rather discomforting.
There is a shortcut to this... Hit the right ALT-Ctrl and NumLock keys
together and then at the prompt hit 'r' for restart.
Later, and good luck, John
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Good CDROM drive for black and white???
Date: 27 Jun 1994 10:13:52 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2um58g$v4@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Jun25.173005.3935@bMD.com>
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kevins@bmd.com writes:
>Whats the best CD-ROM dive I can get for both black and white hardware.
>I would like to read multi-session photo cds....
Then go for a Toshiba 3401 or an Apple CD300.
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From: tkylling@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tobin J Kyllingstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Orchid Kelvin 64 support for NeXT?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 20:43:35 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2undln$8lc@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Keywords: orchid kelvin vga driver
I am very interested in Orchid's Kelvin 64 vga controller. I am also more
interested in moving to NeXTSTEP. I called Orchid; they do not support
NeXTSTEP. Is there any third party supporting the Kelvin 64 for NeXTSTEP?
(according to the CL-GD543X data book, the CL-GD543X is register and
software compatible with the CL-GD542X)
--
Tobin Kyllingstad
Applied Innovation Inc.
614-798-2000
tobin@aiinet.com
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From: martin@dragon.in-berlin.de (Martin Vetter)
Subject: Re: Does any removeable 128 optical or Syquest drive work with N
Message-ID: <Cs2IBz.AG@dragon.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Private NeXT Site (Berlin, Germany)
References: <hmyQgyE.jhepp@delphi.com> <CrK8wr.Ct@manki.toppoint.de> <2u5atj$c8@surf.kowande.Bond.edu.au> <1994Jun22.073411.24445@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 18:07:11 GMT
Hello,
let me continue this thread ;-)
What about the SyQuest SQ5200 (5.25, 200 MB) on black hardware?
Martin
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: QIC24 Tape Unit with Black NeXT?
Message-ID: <Cs2q2u.rw@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 20:54:30 GMT
I unsuccessfully tried to attach a Cipher Model 540 SCSI Tape unit to my black NeXT running NS3.0.
While booting, the device is never properly recognized. This seems not to be a termination problem
on the SCSI bus as I tried various termination combinations with the tape unit and the internal
Fujitsu drive. Also, SCSI id's are ok - 1 for the drive, 6 for the tape.
At some point the unit got recognized somehow though its name/brand was never written in the
monitor but the following message apppeared
FATAL DISK UNFORMATTED
ERROR Invalid device block length of zero.
Workspace asked me repeatedly to initialize the new drive (yes, drive!) which I canceled. It was
possible to randomly read and write to the unit after setting /dev/rst0 to fixed block length, but
yielded in errors :
st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x0
I am at my wits end now. A CD-Rom drive and another QIC150 Tape unit did work without probs. Is
this a problem with the tape unit's firmware being too old? The same unit works flawlessly on an
SGI.
Any ideas?
Juergen
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac printers
Date: 28 Jun 1994 00:08:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2unpmc$4ln@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Cs29vI.LGK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
In article <Cs29vI.LGK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
anjrober@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson) writes:
> I have a NeXT cube and now have access to a Mac laser printer. Could
someone
> email me what I would need to do to hook up the printer. Thanks :-)
I've got my PersonalLaserWriter NT hooked up to serial port A of my
NextStation. I made my own cable, using the pinouts found in the NextStep
2.1 system administration manual. I no longer have the manual, so maybe
somebody else can suggest the pin connections.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon
Date: 28 Jun 1994 00:56:59 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
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References: <2uighmINN2bl@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) writes:
> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
> |> patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) writes:
> |> > I wonder if any PC display card vendor will ever come out with
> |> > a PCI card which uses a 444 frame-buffer representation (or has
> |> > hardware assistance to convert an incoming 444 pixel stream into
> |> > whatever format it actually uses...)
> |>
> |> It might also be nice if the windowserver was handling 555 instead
> |> of 444. Wouldn't the extra colors make a big difference when viewing
> |> color pictures? (such as photo CD's) It'd be better than the current
> |> 444 setup for 16-bit color, but not as expensive as going all the way
> |> to 32-bit color (or 24-bit color, really).
>
> The 444 representation is convenient for a couple of reasons.
> The most important is that they can include a 4-bit alpha channel
> in the internal representation and still fit all of the display
> information for a pixel in 16 bits.
When working with photoCD's, I'd much rather lose the alpha
channel and get all the extra bits of color. So, I guess what
I'm really saying is that I'd like the option to have 5551 (or
maybe 5550 would make more sense) instead of 4444. Note that
I want it as an *option*, so the user would be able to choose.
When working with photo CD's (or any 32-bit color images), the
dithering effect with 4444 is quite noticable.
> Since packing on non-byte boundaries is extremely expensive in
> processor cycles, they'd probably have to use a 24- or 32-bit
> structure for each pixel (most likely the latter, since alignment
> on 32-bit boundaries gives better performance on most 32-bit
> processors).
Of course, if there was a big performance penalty then I might
not be all that happy with it...
> At that point you've incurred both the processor and memory demands
> of true 32-bit color in order to get a measely 5 bits per pixel
> and 4 bits of Alpha channel. Why not just do 32 bits instead (8
> bits per primary, 8 bit alpha)?
In my case, I actually did spend the money to get a 32-bit color
system. Still, right now I can have 1024x768 @32-bit color, or
1280x1024 @ 16-bit color. This is the limit of my video card. If
I could have (as an option) 1280x1024 @ RGB-555 then I'd probably
rather have the added screen real-estate than the extra bits of
color. I use the extra colors a lot more than I use the alpha-
channel information. (or, at least, I think I do...)
Actually, in my case I probably wouldn't mind if all the internal
(to NeXTSTEP) representation was 32-bit color, and it just shipped
the RGB-555 information to the video card. I don't believe I have
the option of upgrading the video card so I can have *both* 32-bit
color *and* the greater pixel count. I'm not sure if that would
avoid the performance issues you mentioned, though.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Cube B&W monitor problems - diagnosis?
Date: 28 Jun 1994 03:00:52 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <2unso4$dee@alf.uib.no>
Hi.
For those of you old enough to remember the Old Days (tm), I have a
BusinessLand cube bought during the "fire sale" some years ago.
In my care it has been upgraded to 3.2, 040 board, 16MB RAM, 1GB disk,
CD ROM, FAX/Modem, NeXTprinter, etc. I have kept it in perfect
condition, cleaned it often, let it run 24 hours a day as a good
(stable) Unix system should. It's worked flawlessly for many years.
A few weeks ago, I began to notice the screen "jumping" or "flickering".
Since I often sit up to 2 or 3 in the morning (like now) I thought
it was fatigue, my eyes were joking me. This is not so - I see now
that once in a while the screen boundary appears to move inward approx
0.3mm or so very quickly and then back to normal size, creating a
viseable "flicker" effect, or "wavering" of the screen. The screen
is a MegaPixel monitor, I can get the serial number from the back if
it's important.
I'd like to know if anyone else has experienced or heard of this
problem, if they know what it is and how (if) it may/should be
remedied. I do hope it doesn't mean my monitor is about to die.
Maybe the cube never forgave me for selling the OD drive... 8-(
Please e-mail responses.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete Helme)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Driver for NextStep?
Date: 27 Jun 1994 23:14:04 GMT
Organization: General Magic, Inc.
Sender: %.
Message-ID: <2unmfs$gh8@gatekeep.genmagic.com>
References: <2un0eg$s2k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Try Talus at info@talus.com for more info on theirs for the NCR 810.
-------------------------
<pete_helme@genmagic.com>
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intelligraphics E-mail address
Date: 28 Jun 1994 02:15:21 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uo13p$5va@eps.com>
Does anyone have Intelligraphics E-mail address. They did the Diamond
Stealth 64 drivers.
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
NeXTmail OK
From: nils@daisy.syd.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Problems with writing Graphics Driver for ATI MACH 64
Date: 27 Jun 1994 15:33:39 GMT
Organization: Sydlink e.V., 24937 Flensburg, Germany
Message-ID: <2umrgj$9na@flens.syd.de>
Hi!
I'am currently working on a Graphics Driver for the ATI Mach 64 PCI Card.
The good news:
-8 Bit gray works
-15 Bit color works
The bad news:
-I got trouble with the 32 Bit color mode !
-There is a kind of "noise" on the screen !
Okay, to be more specific:
The ATI has an IOPixelEncoding of "RRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGBBBBBBBB--------"
When I set the IOPixelEncoding field to this value instead of the Default
"--------RRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGBBBBBBBB", there is a strange behaviour of
the Window Server ( or of something else ??#@%$ ):
after booting, the Background is set, but the login-panel is invisible !
after "blind" login, only the Workspace-Menu appears, but NOTHING else !
(The Menu looks correct, but there are some missing, black, rectangular
Sections) !
Opening Sub Menus works fine, all functions seem to work, but ALL other
graphic items except the Application Menus are invisible !
Is this a bug in the Window Server with handling the RGBa IOPixelEncoding
instead of the standart aRGB IOPixelEncoding ?????????
Now the second bug: Noise !?!
In both 8bpp and 15bpp (aRGB) Modes, there are "some" pixels, which don't
display there correct color/gray values, but some kind of color/gray
noise!
I Know, that this is a problem of my hardware programming, not of
NEXTSTEP, but maybe some of you did some programming stuff on the MACH 64
already !?
The behaviour changes a bit if i modify the CRTC Timing, but i haven't
been able to eliminate all noisy pixels (even if i use standart VESA
timing rules)
The behaviour looks a bit like the behaviour of the Revision 3 ATI MACH 32
Chipset in 1132x820 Modes ! (before a new ATI 32 driver arrived)
So: PLEASE HELP !
Thank you for any hints, E-Mail Adresses of "WISE GUYS" and any other
kinds of Help:
Nils Heidorn
--
--
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Muehlenstrasse 21b
24937 Flensburg
0461 / 55049 ( am Wochenende 04674 / 1477 )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: Transfer rate optimisation vs Kermit
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Jun27233915@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:39:15 GMT
I am using C-Kermit to do file transfer with my SupraFax. Here is the
transfer rate I get using the kermit protocol (14400 v42bis connection):
465,42 bytes/second
When I send the same (text) file by just typing "cat file" I receive it on
my screen at :
3257,93 bytes/second
Seven times faster!!!
Clearly since C-Kermit sends small packets and do checksums itself the
v42 bis protocol isn't used in an optimal way.
Is there any intelligent way to transfer files by using just the
v42bis protocol so that the transfer rate is always optimal?
Thank you,
Francois Magnan
--
****************************************************
** Francois Magnan : magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca **
** Dept. Mathematiques, Universite de Montreal **
****************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Weitek P9100 PCI adapter and driver?
Message-ID: <bchin.772779611@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <2u0fji$idj@eps.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 05:00:11 GMT
steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
>Does anyone have info on the Weitek P9100 based video boards? I just
>received a flyer from JCiS and they are advertising a 2 and 4 meg vram PCI
>video board with a NeXTStep driver..
JCIS kindly lent us (Pangea) a Pentium with a JCIS Shark video card -
it's got a P9100 with *both* VL-bus and PCI bus (it's a flippy card)
and the version we had was the 2mb one. JCIS is also offering a "Big
Shark" that has 4mb of VRAM and can do 1280x1024 in 32bit color as well
as 1600x1200 in 16bit color.
I had it running in 1152x900 at 16bit color and it was nice, especially
when we removed the serial mouse and plugged in a bus mouse (it just
felt awful because of the serial mouse). 1280x1024 was also nice in
16bit color, but too cramped for the 17" monitor we had.
Unfortunately, I don't have benchmark info on it; on thier 90mhz Pentium
at thier booth, NXBench came up with something around 1.5 (combined score)
with thier beta driver. The NCR SCSI card with the Talus SCSI driver
which can't take advantage of many of its features yet got 2mb/sec
read from an old Quantum - basically, I think it topped out the performance
on the *drive*.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
Date: 28 Jun 1994 00:28:06 -0700
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uoje6$2vk@darkstar.isi.edu>
We're getting ready to order a couple of systems to run Nextstep. Does
anyone have any experience with the relative merits of a HP 712/60 system
versus a Dell 90MH Pentium Dimension system?
We can get comparable systems for about the same price (ballpark). The
real question is which one is a better system for Nexstep. Anyone have
any recommendations? The SPEC numbers favor the Pentium (at least for
integer performance), but how about responsiveness and graphics?
Some HP questions: can the system be set up to boot into either HP-UX
or Nextstep (this might be nice for X development).
How does 1280x1024 resolution look on a 17" monitor? Seems like it
could be pretty hard to read, yet 1024x768 (the other resolution
listed) sounds a little small compared the black hardware's 1120x832.
Has anyone had any luck with a 3rd party internal disk in a 712 (it would
be cheaper to buy a 260 and replace it with 1GB). And how about 3rd
party monitors? (HP peripherals as usual are overpriced).
Anyone have any experience with the X clients for Nextstep on PC's. Co-Xist
on a 25Mhz cube is dog-slow (too slow to be useful). Is it reasonable on
fast PC hardware?
Thanks for any comments, I'll summarize back to the net if there is
enough interest.
cheers,
--mike (carlton@isi.edu)
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DECpc XL/ProAudioSpectrum - NOT
Date: 27 Jun 1994 21:54:49 -0400
Organization: Southgate Internet Host
Message-ID: <2unvt9$jlv@sgate.com>
OK, here's the deal.
I've got a DECpc XL 466d2. 340M HD, DEC CD ROM (SCSI IDs 0 and 5,
respectively). I'm using the Talus NCR SCSI driver. I have an Intel
EtherExpress ethernet card, IRQ 10. I've got a ProAudio Spectrum 16, which is
giving me a whole lot of trouble.
The install.exe file in c:\proaudio in the DOS underworld will pretty much
limit me to DMAs 3, 5, and ... well, I think that's it. IRQs are fairly
limited too; 11 or 15.
No combination works.
I tried moving the EtherExpress to IRQ 11, and the PAS to 5/10, but the
EtherExpress wasn't recognized and the PAS didn't work anyway.
This is all under NEXTSTEP 3.2.
What's the deal here? Anybody out there get this config to work? Awfully
annoying.
Telling me that either (a) the Talus driver doesn't work with the PAS, or (b)
the PAS sucks are not what I want to hear.
Any help would be appreciated... Thanks.
------
Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
------
A lot of people I know believe in positive thinking, and so do I. I
believe everything positively stinks.
-- Lew Col
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTIME and the SoundBlaster?
Date: 28 Jun 1994 11:53:40 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2up304$of8@news1.digex.net>
When I use NeXTIME w/ the SoundBlaster driver installed, my system locks up.
Everything is fine without the driver. Any clues?
- Scott
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 28 Jun 94 13:26:06 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.772809966@budlight>
References: <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com> <2uhk4q$bb3@search01.news.aol.com>
adguys@aol.com (Adguys) writes:
>In article <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com>, gwh@j51.com (Gene Homicki) writes:
> "FaxBack documents 8001 and 8002 are both about the
>object.station.They provide specs and a somewhat fuzzy picture, but
>no prices."
>More data is apparently going to be available within a few days via
>fax. In the meantime, call the voice 800# 800-349-6007. They are (get
>this) smart and friendly on the phone.
Maybe Some Kind Soul (TM) could upload the .fax files to
sonata or cs.orst.edu? For non-US citizens, it is not
possible to get 1-800 info. Should somebody do it, please
let the net know.
Thank you very very much!
Chris
--
"I ride a tandem with the random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
From: dave@barkley.paradigm-shift.com (Dave Briggman (Personal Account))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Canon object.station .ps docs in cs.orst.edu
Date: 28 Jun 1994 15:01:30 GMT
Organization: MCNC/NC-REN
Message-ID: <2upe0a$ni7@inxs.concert.net>
It's about 4MB in size (perhaps Scott Anguish can compress) but it's now
in cs.orst.edu, /pub/next/submissions.
--
Dave Briggman (my opinions are my own)
Former USAF Security Police Officer
Gulf War Veteran
Former WANG VS-100 Air Force Implementation Team Member
+ _______________________________________________________
A very NASTY disposition!
From: breuer@zeus.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de (Volker Breuer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: power supply failture (fuse?)
Date: 28 Jun 1994 15:35:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics, University of Kiel, Germany
Message-ID: <2upg0i$31d@solid.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de>
Hi all,
the power-supply of our NeXT color station has given up live when
switching on the machine. There should exist a fuse inside. Dos anybody
knows about where to find it.
we would be glad to get helpfull informations
Volker Breuer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: NS on Elonex?
Message-ID: <1994Jun28.110409.590@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 11:04:09 GMT
Hi, has anyone bought an Elonex machine for running NS? Do you reckon
they're good value for money? I've just been quoted getting on for four
thousand quid which seems a lot (66mhz, 32M RAM, 1G disk, ethernet, cd-rom).
I got a quote from them of 2700 last September with 16MB/500MB. When I
mentioned this the woman said "ah, but we weren't selling NS machines last
year, this one has been _designed_ for NS". I know that there are firms in the
UK who make a real killing selling NS machines because they're perceived to be
"workstation class", and the buyers have got lots of dosh so they can get
away with it, so I don't want the same thing to happen with Elonex.
Dave Griffiths
From: m94dwa@albireo.tdb.uu.se (David Wallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Driver for IDE-Cachecontroller (VL-BUS)?
Date: 28 Jun 1994 18:03:28 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala University, Sweden
Message-ID: <2upolg$145t@columba.udac.uu.se>
I just bought a IDE controller with Cache for VL-Bus (Promise DC4030VL-2 ).
SCO Unix and AT&T Unix drivers was included. Can these be used with NeXTstep
or does anyone have a driver for this particular controller or do I have to
live without the fancy Cachestuff this controller supports?
// David Wallin
m94dwa@student.tdb.uu.se
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Current source of memory
Date: 28 Jun 1994 17:34:18 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2upmuq$9d8@masala.cc.uh.edu>
What is the current sources of memory for NeXT computers? All the vendors
we have dealt with in the past don't seem to have the best prices anymore...
Basically, we are looking for:
1) 4 - 4M 30pin SIMMs for NeXTStation (monochrome)
2) 1 or 2 4M 72pin SIMMS for a NeXTStation color
3) The vendor must be able to accept university POs.
Anyone bought memory recently and got a good deal?
I have seen 30pin 4M SIMMS for as low as $169 with lifetime warrenty. Is
this the lowest?
Thanks!
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: dmogge@dream.Berkeley.EDU (Dru Mogge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WangDAT 3100 Error
Date: 28 Jun 1994 20:01:50 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2upvje$r52@agate.berkeley.edu>
I just installed a WangDAT 3100 DAT tape drive on my Dell 450DE which
is running NS 3.2. When I try to append files, I get the following error
message:
tar: tape backspace error: I/O error
Any idea why or what I should do next?
Thanks--
Dru Mogge
dru@cni.org
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on Elonex?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 20:16:21 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield
Message-ID: <940628211621.413AACUE.malc@jeeves>
References: <1994Jun28.110409.590@prim.demon.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Hi, has anyone bought an Elonex machine for running NS? Do you reckon
> they're good value for money? I've just been quoted getting on for
> four thousand quid which seems a lot (66mhz, 32M RAM, 1G disk,
> ethernet, cd-rom).
>
I know that BT has some...
> I got a quote from them of 2700 last September with 16MB/500MB. When
> I mentioned this the woman said "ah, but we weren't selling NS
> machines last year, this one has been _designed_ for NS". I know that
> there are firms in the UK who make a real killing selling NS machines
> because they're perceived to be "workstation class", and the buyers
> have got lots of dosh so they can get away with it, so I don't want
> the same thing to happen with Elonex.
>
"A lot"?!!
Sounds like a bargain to me -- I presume this includes NEXTSTEP? Not
Developer?
Even without it's still cheap-ish. 32MB RAM: that's 1K just by itself...
Compare the 2700 you were quoted last year -- add 500 pounds for the extra
RAM, and a couple of hundred for the bigger disk, same again for the CD-ROM
(I'm guessing the machine you were quoted last year didn't have such)...
what's the problem?!
Tot the price up for the individual parts, and I suspect you'll find it's very
competitive. And you get a 1 year full warranty into the bargain.
I don't think Elonex is trying to rip people off at all: they seem to be keen
to provide a good product at a very reasonable price, and are aiming to give
good back-up too.
I think they may have an interesting battle ahead with Canon (the
object.stations are very highly-spec'ed and very attractively priced), but
they do have a lead, and have the advantage of being an established player on
home turf (in this market).
What I would really like is for them to bring out a notebook, ideally with
docking station option, with a decent-size screen. Any news yet Demetre?! :-
)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569
Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569
Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972
Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome)
Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP with HP DAT drive
Message-ID: <1994Jun28.191548.1192@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 19:15:48 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
Keywords: DAT drive
Hello, and excuse the cross posting - I'm desperate.
I always thought the good old black hardware was plug and play. Today I
received a HP C1533A DDS-2 DAT drive for evaluation.
I have installed the tapefix program to set the block size to a fixed byte
length and I can inquire the drive information with a program called st
(similar to mt, but with more commands and really only for Cartridge
tapes), but I can't do anything else. (Oh, mt -f /dev/rst0 fsf 1 will wind
the tape, but after a while it will cause the drive to flash the error
lamps)
Neither tar, cpio, SaftyNet and my own program will write any data. I only
get an I/O error such as: "tar: can't write to /dev/rst0 : I/O error".
SaftyNet (in demo mode) will simply refuse to write a lable, so I can't use
it!
Does anybody have any idea what I can do? I have to return the device
within a few days if I can't get it to work.
Thank's a lot for any help.
-Robert
--
Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67
Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15
Robert Frank
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
Switzerland
From: jbrierre@telenet.com (Jacques Brierre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE:Mac printers
Message-ID: <3166@telenet.telenet.com>
Date: 28 Jun 94 19:44:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Alcatel Data Networks
: Todd Takken writes:
: In article <Cs29vI.LGK@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
: anjrober@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson) writes:
: > I have a NeXT cube and now have access to a Mac laser printer. Could
: someone
: > email me what I would need to do to hook up the printer. Thanks :-)
:
: I've got my PersonalLaserWriter NT hooked up to serial port A of my
: NextStation. I made my own cable, using the pinouts found in the NextStep
: 2.1 system administration manual. I no longer have the manual, so maybe
: somebody else can suggest the pin connections.
:
: -- Todd Takken
: takken@leland.stanford.edu
I use the original Mac to hayes modem cable to hook up my 68040 Cube to a
laserwriter NTX. Dip switches on the NTX are X/on-X/off 9.6kbps.
Regards,
--
Jacques Brierre
Alcatel Data Networks
703-689-6511
rainbow!jbrierre@telenet.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Motorola Hardware] - alternative keyboards
Date: 28 Jun 1994 16:59:20 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uq2v8$m2@digifix.digifix.com>
it would appear that the keyboard I've been working on has angered the RSI
gods, and I'm now facing a painful future of typing..
I've already decided to take the plunge and re-wire my mouse, so I can use a
more comfortable one, however the keyboard is a much bigger challenge.
I'm using a color Turbo, that is pre ADB, so I would need to buy new ROMS, and
a new SoundBox as well as a cable in order to use the Macintosh keyboards...
thats getting up towards a couple of hundred bucks, and worse, their is no
possiblility of getting a brand new, factory shrinkwrapped ADB Soundbox.
So, my question is is the standard NeXT hardware keyboard compatible with Sun
or HP pin-outs?
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ?EATA TIMEOUT ever fixed
Date: 28 Jun 1994 13:03:16 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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References: <2ul5f8$ka2@gamera.umd.edu>
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Keywords: EATA,NS3.2
mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
>Any news on a bugfix for the EISA bus based DPT cards spuriously causing system
>hangs in NS3.2 after saying "EATA timeout"??
Try the new DPT2000 driver from NeXTanswers.
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From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: NeXTStep- 32-bit Ethernet card
Message-ID: <Cs4AH3.JB@nexusadmin.com>
Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Nexus Administration
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:12:39 GMT
Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> writes
!> Hi.
!> Is there any 32-bit Ethernet card working on PCI bus on the market?
!> Any directions to the companies selling it will be greatly appreciated.
!>
Cogent has a card and is working on a NEXTSTEP driver for it. It should be out
soon! You might try contacting Paul Cunningham, Director of Product Marketing
<paul@cogentdata.com> for more info. It should be a screamer when it's done.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
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From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542C troubles
Message-ID: <Cs4L45.6G@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
References: <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 21:02:29 GMT
In article <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
> Help!
>
> I have a Gateway P5-60 that has an Adaptec 1542C SCSI adapter on it but
I cant
> get NS/FIP up on it.
>
> When I use the driver on the floppy it simply reports that no SCSI drive
found.
>
> The one from ftp.next.com goes nuts with repeating the following message
>
> : thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735
>
> What to do?
>
> ---
> Kevin Solie
>
> Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
> Director: Kentucky NeXTSTEP Users Group
> Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology
>
Well, I don't know what you're doing wrong !! I had the Adaptec 1542C
perfectly running on a Gateway 2000 P5-60 for about 6 months (I'm posting
this using a Gateway 2000 P5-90 and the Adaptec !)
One thing you must be sure of is that the card's bios is enabled. To be
sure it is, when you start your computer, it should show you that the
Adaptec is working fine and all the drives that are attached to it.
If you don't see any of this, then your problem is solved : just enable
the Adaptec's Bios.
If it still doesn't work, check out your SCSI ID's. Make sure something is
set up as ID 0.
This is all I can think about now. Hope that helps.
Jacques GARBI
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From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: How can I get some cache ?
Message-ID: <Cs4L9H.77@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 21:05:41 GMT
I'm running NS 3.2 on a Pentium machine. I use the exact same machine to
run Windows. Well, under Windows, thanks to Smartdrive a soft cache
utility, my SCSI HD (Micropolis 2217AV-S 1.75GB) runs quite fast with the
Adaptec 1542C.
Under NS, although the apps are smaller to load, it doesn't go very fast.
Is there a way to have some soft cache ?
Or if not, is there a really fast SCSI controller (I only have PCI or ISA)
that works with NS ?
Thanks
Jacques GARBI
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From: oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Melissa O'Neill)
Subject: Quantum Empire 1080S
Message-ID: <1994Jun29.004719.26847@cs.sfu.ca>
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 00:47:19 GMT
I'm on the verge of buying a Quantum Empire 1080S for my NeXTstation.
Before I buy, I thought it would be a good idea to ask whether anyone
here has experience with this drive, and especially whether anyone has
had any problems with it. The statistics for the drive are as follows:
Capacity Seek Time Spin Rate Warrantee Form Factor Interface
1080MB 9ms 5400rpm 5 year 3.5 x 1" Fast SCSI-II
I understand that the drive is a fairly new model, so it may be that
very few people have them installed. Therefore, I hope that those who
have used the drive will consider taking a second to write me and let
me know their experiences with the drive and not assume that someone
else will probably have answered.
I think e-mailed responces would be best -- I'll summarise on request.
Thank you in advance for any help you can offer,
Melissa.
---
I am Woman, hear me Roa... oh, sorry, was I interrupting... no no, it wasn't
important... no, really; it's fine. // Melissa O'Neill <oneill@cs.sfu.ca>
From: wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q] Are there SCSI-MiniDisc drives available?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 07:09:00 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ur6mc$q2f@email.tuwien.ac.at>
I'm looking for some means to backup my system (tape, DAT, or other), and
it occurred to me that MDs might be a nifty thing to have, provided there
are drives...
Has anyone heard something along these lines?
Please email, I'll summarize.
ys
Alexander Wilkie
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cannon email address -- objectstation inquiries
Date: 29 Jun 1994 08:44:00 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2urc8g$m94@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Does anybody know an email address for Cannon?
Do they sell their object station with no NextStep, no hard drive, no
monitor and no RAM? I've got 72 pin 70 ns SIMMS, a 21 inch monitor and
huge hard drive in my colorstation now, and the cheapest place for me to
get NextStep is the student bookstore.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: andrew_abernathy@wire.home.net (andrew abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Are there SCSI-MiniDisc drives available?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 09:06:46 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2urdj6$5js@cherry.atlanta.com>
References: <2ur6mc$q2f@email.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <2ur6mc$q2f@email.tuwien.ac.at> wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at
(Alexander Wilkie) writes:
> I'm looking for some means to backup my system (tape, DAT, or other),
and
> it occurred to me that MDs might be a nifty thing to have, provided
there
> are drives...
Not yet, they're due in the fourth quarter this year. Be aware
that they are around CDROM speed, maybe double-speed CDROM, based
on the current specs.
--
andrew_abernathy@wire.home.net (NeXTmail ok, MIME in a pinch)
3306-I Country Club Vlg. Ln. Powered by Motorola
Norcross, GA 30092-4426
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From: apl@vapl.demon.co.uk (Ari Laakkonen)
Subject: Driver for Adaptec 1740?
Organization: (none)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 09:59:37 +0000
Message-ID: <772883977snz@vapl.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Hello all,
I wondered if there was a driver available yet for the Adaptec 1740 in
enhanced mode, or if there isn't one yet, anyone know of any plans for
one?
Thanks, Ari
--
Ari Laakkonen (apl@doc.ic.ac.uk, apl@vapl.demon.co.uk)
From: calderd@ott.hookup.net (Richard Lacelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: nextstep and os/2
Date: 29 Jun 1994 03:41:18 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: ontario
Message-ID: <2uqqgu$9if@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Keywords: os2
Hi,
I am going to install NeXTSTEP for Intel on a Partitioned IDE Hard Drive,
along with OS/2. Has anyone had experience installing OS/2 and NeXTSTEP
and the same hard drive? Does the os/2 boot manager intefer?
If someone installed OS/2 and NeXTSTEP, could you tell me what you did,
how you did it and how it's setup.
Thanks.
Richard Lacelle
From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Your advice would be greatly appreciated
Date: 29 Jun 1994 13:14:10 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2urs32$akg@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
Keywords: NS/FIP,Intel
I want to buy a computer for my son, Greg, to take to college
(Univ. of Indiana, Bloomington) this fall. He wants to major in business
and finance. He is transferring from Tennessee Technological University,
which is a good school, but it doesn't have a strong curriculum for
students who are interested in business and finance. Greg will be a
junior this year.
I want to give Greg the opportunity to run both NeXTSTEP and
DOS/Windows applications. Thus, an Intel box with NS/FIP and DOS/Windows
installed in separate partitions on a hard disk would seem to be a logical
choice. He is just learning how to use a computer, so I really don't want
to buy him a machine that greatly exceeds his immediate needs (e.g., a
Pentium machine). On the other hand, I don't want to buy him a piece of
junk either. If he becomes enthusiastic about computing after giving it a
try this academic year, I would be willing to buy him a better box next
year.
Thus, I have _tentatively_ decided that I should get him a
"Pentium ready" 486DX2-66MHz machine from a company that is familiar with
NS/FIP. I'm thinking that the machine should have a minimum of 16 MB of
RAM, and a ~500 MB hard disk. I would like to get him a CD-ROM drive as
well (to make it easier for him to install future versions of NeXTSTEP, to
gain access to the wealth of information that is becoming available on
CD-ROMs, to run NEXTIME, etc.). Finally, I'm sure he'll want to connect
to Bitnet; therefore, I need to buy him an Ethernet card too, right?
Now, some specific questions. What do you think of the tentative
conclusions drawn above? What company should I deal with? What about a
monitor for the machine? I would like to buy Greg a high-resolution, 17"
color monitor if I can afford it. If I can't, what are the performance
penalties (other than screen size) associated with a 14" or 15" color
monitor? What vendors supply high quality color monitors at reasonable
prices? What about a printer? Should I buy Greg an inexpensive laser
printer, or do you think an inkjet printer would be good enough? What
about a backup/mass storage device (e.g., a DAT drive)? Are there any
other types of peripheral devices that I haven't mentioned that you think
Greg might need or want?
Also, what about software? Being a student, Greg can take
advantage of academic discounts to procure software at very reasonable
prices. Therefore, I'm going to let him buy his own software. However, I
would like to provide him with some sound advice about what software to
buy. At the moment, I'm strongly inclined to recommend the following
"general purpose" applications: WriteUp, Mesa, Create, and Mathematica.
What additional software would you recommend for a student like Greg?
Thanks for taking the time to read this post. As the foregoing
words indicate, I'm definitely clue impaired when it comes to
purchasing/recommending computer hardware and software for a student
majoring in business and finance. Therefore, any advice that you would be
willing to impart would be greatly appreciated.
Jim
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sound Blaster Users ?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 09:32:21 -0400
Organization: College of Computing
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2urt55$pk8@gaia.cc.gatech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: debaud
As i am ready to buy a sound blaster 16
sound card and use the driver posted on
cs.orst.edu site, I was wondering if
anyone was using that combination already
on NSFIP 3.2 ?
Could you post your results and especially
tell us if it works with little or no gap
in the sound stream ?
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Diamond Stealth 64 Performance Info Wanted
Message-ID: <1994Jun29.142015.4437@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:20:15 GMT
Has anybody used the Diamond Stealth 64 video card (with 4 MB VRAM) with the
new drivers from NeXT? How does the performance compare to a miro 32S? Also,
does it really do 1600 x 1200 16-bit color? A review of it in Byte (useless as
it may be) reported that the card could only do up to 1280 x 1024.
Thanks for the info.
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
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From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra)
Subject: Driver for Adaptec 2742
Message-ID: <Cs5zHn.My0@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:10:34 GMT
Hello users of NextStep:
I am if a driver for Adaptec 2742, ATI Mach 64 and Sound Blaster SCSI-2 16 with
ASP are now available. If so, where can I get these. Thanks.
Batra
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How can I get some cache ?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:21:28 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Qi4N5sC00iV3E1vCM1@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Cs4L9H.77@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Jun-94 How can I get
some cache ? by Jacques Garbi@???
> I'm running NS 3.2 on a Pentium machine. I use the exact same machine to
> run Windows. Well, under Windows, thanks to Smartdrive a soft cache
> utility, my SCSI HD (Micropolis 2217AV-S 1.75GB) runs quite fast with
the > Adaptec 1542C. Under NS, although the apps are smaller to load,
it doesn't
> go very fast.
Just as a point of fact, there is no meaningful way to really compare
hard drive performance across different operating systems without
performing the same well-written benchmark under both OS's.
> Is there a way to have some soft cache ?
Yes. You can set the kernel variable nbuf to control the number of
'wired down' (ie, permenently allocated in the kernel's address space
and not available for the VM system to swap out) disk buffers that
NEXTSTEP uses.
This variable should be set for you automatically to a 'good' value
since NS 3.1 (I believe), but you might repost with your memory and the
value of nbuf as the log in /usr/adm/messages indicates:
[ ..excerpt.. ]
Jun 27 17:44:47 cswiger mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66
Jun 27 17:44:47 cswiger mach: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 21:57:41 PDT
1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Jun 27 17:44:47 cswiger mach: FPU version 0x41
Jun 27 17:44:47 cswiger mach: physical memory = 20.00 megabytes.
Jun 27 17:44:47 cswiger mach: available memory = 17.92 megabytes.
Jun 27 17:44:47 cswiger mach: using 126 buffers containing 0.98
megabytes of memory
[ ..excerpt.. ]
If there are any unusual problems with your machines' configuration,
they might appear here.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
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From: gildas@crih.fdn.org (Gildas NOEL)
Subject: Fujitsu M2512A on NeXTStations
Message-ID: <1994Jun29.155807.2528@crih.fdn.org>
Sender: news@crih.fdn.org
Organization: Crih Centre - Tours, France.
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:58:07 GMT
Hello,
Does anybody know if the new Fujitsu M2512A (230Mb 3.5" MOD) is
working with NeXTStations ?
Has anybody configured the disktab correctly for this drive ? Is
there particular switch setting ?
Thanks in advance for any help,
________________________________________________
Gildas NOEL
Centre Regional d'Informatique Hospitaliere
CHRU de Tours, France
gildas@crih.fdn.org - eole@crih.fdn.org
From: greimann@chopin.udel.edu (John B Greimann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which MSS sound cards work?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 13:15:04 -0400
Organization: University of Delaware
Message-ID: <2usa6o$jdm@chopin.udel.edu>
Hi,
I was just wondering if anyone has had success under NS 3.2 with any
of the various compatible Microsoft Windows Sound System Cards that are
available? I can post a summary if anyone's interested and there are enough
responses.
Thanks for the help!
Brandon
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which laserprinter to buy?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 12:27:22 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <24062912281774@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>
I'm thinking of purchasing a PostScript printer for my NEXTSTEP PC. I'm
looking at the HP LaserJet 4MP or the Apple LaserWriter Select 360. Does
anyone have anything good or bad to say about these two printers? Are there
better ones for the money?
Ted Allen
High Energy Physics
University of Wisconsin-Madison
tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: jbrierre@telenet.com (Jacques Brierre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Syquest drives with Black hardware (SCSI)
Message-ID: <3167@telenet.telenet.com>
Date: 29 Jun 94 17:29:40 GMT
Organization: Alcatel Data Networks
Anyone tried to/ used a syquest SCSI drive on black hardware?
I am about to try to hook up a DATAPAK 44 MB removable to my cube. I was
wondering whether anyone had tried this and whether a driver was needed.
This drive works on a Mac (of course) and needs a driver.
Thanks for any responses.
Regards.
--
Jacques Brierre
Alcatel Data Networks
703-689-6511
rainbow!jbrierre@telenet.com
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From: cbarton@clark.dgim.doc.ca (Casey Barton)
Subject: TsengW32i -- 1 MB?
Message-ID: <cbarton.127.2E11A776@clark.dgim.doc.ca>
Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News)
Organization: None
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 16:55:19 GMT
I just found the Tseng W32i drivers at ftp.next.com, and happily downloaded
them, eager to move beyond the 2 bit greyscale I've been suffering with. After
an hour of struggling, I've now got garbage on the screen.
Browsing the .readme file lists compatibility with two 2MB cards -- does
this imply that the drivers support *only* 2MB cards? I *can* get 16bit,
800*600 graphics with this system (a la my Windows system); do I need an
extraneous megabyte of video memory in order to use it with NEXTSTEP?
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From: griffon@unixg.ubc.ca (Griff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How much is the EDU price for a Gecko??? and Does the beta NS comes with it?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:11:23 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <griffon.230.000C4F52@unixg.ubc.ca>
Hello!
Just out of curiousity how much is the Gecko in EDU prices???
JAmes
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: HELP with HP DAT drive
Message-ID: <Cs5sC1.A6@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Jun28.191548.1192@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 12:36:00 GMT
In article <1994Jun28.191548.1192@urz.unibas.ch> writes:
> Hello, and excuse the cross posting - I'm desperate.
>
> I always thought the good old black hardware was plug and play. Today I
> received a HP C1533A DDS-2 DAT drive for evaluation.
>
> I have installed the tapefix program to set the block size to a fixed byte
> length and I can inquire the drive information with a program called st
> (similar to mt, but with more commands and really only for Cartridge
> tapes), but I can't do anything else. (Oh, mt -f /dev/rst0 fsf 1 will wind
> the tape, but after a while it will cause the drive to flash the error
> lamps)
>
> Neither tar, cpio, SaftyNet and my own program will write any data. I only
> get an I/O error such as: "tar: can't write to /dev/rst0 : I/O error".
>
> SaftyNet (in demo mode) will simply refuse to write a lable, so I can't use
> it!
>
> Does anybody have any idea what I can do? I have to return the device
> within a few days if I can't get it to work.
Try as root,
check permissions on device,
apply tapefix for the appropriate device (default is /dev/rxt0 ?),
setup the DAT to SCSI 1,
check the console for messages,
does the drive get correctly recognized on booting, i.e. does its brand/version get printed in the
monitor? (you can check this in the nmi-messages)
Good luck, Juergen
---
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== What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 09:04:46 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2ur9uu$398@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2uoje6$2vk@darkstar.isi.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes:
>Some HP questions: can the system be set up to boot into either HP-UX
>or Nextstep (this might be nice for X development).
Yes. You just type the SCSI ID # of the disk you want to boot from.
>How does 1280x1024 resolution look on a 17" monitor? Seems like it
>could be pretty hard to read, yet 1024x768 (the other resolution
>listed) sounds a little small compared the black hardware's 1120x832.
I wouldn't go for 1280x1024 on 17".
>Has anyone had any luck with a 3rd party internal disk in a 712 (it would
>be cheaper to buy a 260 and replace it with 1GB). And how about 3rd
>party monitors? (HP peripherals as usual are overpriced).
There's no problem using different hard disks and monitors. Of course I
wouldn't buy a GB disk from HP at that price!
>Anyone have any experience with the X clients for Nextstep on PC's. Co-Xist
>on a 25Mhz cube is dog-slow (too slow to be useful). Is it reasonable on
>fast PC hardware?
CoXist 3.2 on NS/I is reasonable in my opinion.
Markus.
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From: jdpierc@netcom.com (Jerry D. Pierce)
Subject: Serial problems NSFIP w/MUX
Message-ID: <jdpiercCs68GC.Fzv@netcom.com>
Keywords: mux, serial, nsfip
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:24:05 GMT
I administer a couple of Intel Professional GX machines, and
I'm having a problem getting reasonable (and stable) throughput
on the serial ports.
We are using Tiptop, and opening the port at 38400 baud with hardware
flow-control selected. The machine is then sent a file using Zmodem
from a remote host. (The modem attached to our machine is a Zyxel U-1496E)
Using the default driver from NeXT, we get very good throughput
right up until the time the machine crashes. :-)
If we open the port at 9600 baud the machine won't crash, but it's
not getting very good transfer rates.
I installed the MUX driver, and the best throughput I've been able to
get so far (zmodem transfers) is in the 1300 range. We see a lot of
CRC errors and retransmissions.
Are there any tricks to configuring the MUX driver to get better
throughput?
The modem is set to use RTS/CTS and the modem cable is a standard
"AT modem cable, DB9 -> DB25".
Any help/pointers would be appreciated.
Jerry D. Pierce
jdpierc@netcom.com
From: traderdec@aol.com (TraderDec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Swap your Turbo NEXT systems for a PowerMacs
Date: 29 Jun 1994 13:14:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <2usa4p$3gf@search01.news.aol.com>
Converting office to NeXT from Macs
The Macs are less than a month old
If your in DC or can get there and want to swap Email Me
Trade
Turbo NeXT Color Station 16/400,17" Monitor, Soundbox, Keyboard &
Mouse
for
PowerMac 6100 8/230, 17" Color monitor, Keyboard & Mouse
Trade
Turbo NeXT Station Mono 16/400, 17" Mono monitor, Keyboard & Mouse
for
Mac Centris 610 8/230 , 17" Color monitor, keyboard & mouse
or call 202-298-0716
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra)
Subject: Drivers for ATI Mach 64, Sound Blaster-16 SCSI-2 withASP, Adaptec 2742 ?
Message-ID: <Cs6CCH.81w@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 19:48:17 GMT
Does any one know if drivers for above cards are now available, so that one can
run NEXTSTEP 3.2? If so, where can I get them. Thanks for your help.
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: (intel) custom screen modes for miro 32 ?
Message-ID: <8139@darmstadt.gmd.de>
Date: 29 Jun 94 18:28:33 GMT
Sender: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de
Organization: German National Research Center for IT
Does anybody know if one can create custom screen modes for the excellent
miro Crystal 32S card ? The driver provided by miro only allows for true
color resolutions of 800*600 if you have a 64 kHz monitor; 1024*768 and
beyond is appropiate only for monitors that handle 80 kHz.
Of course, mine only does 64 kHz - but 800*600 is totally unusable !
The mode config files are plain ASCII, so if someone daring enough could
try to read them and explain how to create custom entries without blowing
the monitor, that would be really kind..
(we could also bug the people who wrote the driver to write a screen mode
designer..the ELSA Winner series has one!)
Regards,
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) [no NeXTmail]
Smalltalker, NeXTstepper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen.
"I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
From: gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu (Gary P. Wolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: power supply failture (fuse?)
Date: 29 Jun 1994 21:12:00 GMT
Organization: Boise State University
Message-ID: <2uso30$mpu@euskadi.idbsu.edu>
References: <2upg0i$31d@solid.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de>
In article <2upg0i$31d@solid.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de>,
Volker Breuer <breuer@zeus.theo-physik.uni-kiel.de> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>the power-supply of our NeXT color station has given up live when
>switching on the machine. There should exist a fuse inside. Dos anybody
>knows about where to find it.
>
>we would be glad to get helpfull informations
>
>Volker Breuer
About 4 months ago a friend of mine had the same problem. His NeXTStation
died in the same manner. I opened it up to find the fuse. The power
supply is not made to be serviced, I believe the fuse is just there to
keep from melting the 040 or something surface mounted...it was never
meant to be changed as it is virtually inacessable to the end user
without breaking the powersupply furthing. And if the fuse has burned
out it is probably due to some of the power transistors or some other
equally impossible item to diagnose. Most of the "brains" of the
switching power supply are encased in a shlack type substance and thus
non repairable.
In the end he ended up calling Bell Atlantic and for $150.00 he
including shipping/handling he received a brand new power supply in
about 4 days.
I do not know if a NeXT Station Color's ps is the same or different so
the price may be higher/lower don't know. Thier number is
1-800-621-9900.
Hope this helps,
Gary Wolfe
gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
--
"I was crazy once...They put me in a little white room...I loved that room...I
died in that room...When they buried me they put little white flowers on my
grave that tickled my nose and drove me crazy...CRAZY I tell you...I was crazy
once!"
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From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: Buying Pentium motherboards
Message-ID: <1994Jun29.133828.3761@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Distribution: NA
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:38:28 GMT
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with ordering a Pentium
90MHz (or 100MHz) motherboard mail order? Are there any brands that
specifically don't work with NS? BIOSes?
I'm particularly interested in a VL/EISA combo in order not to lose my
investment in graphics/SCSI controllers. VL/PCI would work too as long as
it has 2VL, 4ISA and x PCI. Thanks for any tips!
Mike Stepniczka
mike_stepniczka@il.us.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Hard Disk Experts, Help requested !!
Message-ID: <CrxByn.4x@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 23:01:34 GMT
Help,
I have a black NeXT (cube, 68040 25 MHz) running
NeXTSTEP 3.2 and would like to add a SCSI hard disk.
I have the following options:
1. Dec DSP3210 2.1 GB $1375.00
2. Dec DSP5200S 2+ GB $995.00
3. Fujitsu M2694ESA 1.2 GB $750.00 3.5"
One place offers the Dec DSP3210 "low-level formatted"
for DOS systems for $1050.00
Can anyone help me with compatibility issues?
Can or should the DSP3210 be re-low-level formatted?
--
<charles.herrick@amd.com>
no NeXTmail, sorry :-(
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542C troubles
Message-ID: <Cs2vI0.ACD@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:51:34 GMT
In article <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
> Help!
>
> I have a Gateway P5-60 that has an Adaptec 1542C SCSI adapter on it but I
cant
> get NS/FIP up on it.
Is it not true that NS is not certified for the 1542C, but for
the 1542A or 1542B only?
Sorry if my memory is bogus.
--
personal opinions
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 64 Performance Info Wanted
Date: 29 Jun 1994 17:10:18 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <2usv0q$qfs@u.cc.utah.edu>
References: <1994Jun29.142015.4437@il.us.swissbank.com>
Eric_Brown (ericb@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: Has anybody used the Diamond Stealth 64 video card (with 4 MB VRAM) with the
: new drivers from NeXT? How does the performance compare to a miro 32S? Also,
: does it really do 1600 x 1200 16-bit color? A review of it in Byte (useless as
: it may be) reported that the card could only do up to 1280 x 1024.
: Thanks for the info.
: --
: _______________________________________________________________
: / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
: | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
: | CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
: | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
: \___________________________|___________________________________/
I'm going to try the #9GXE64 Pro 2 MB card when my no-name machine ships
from California on 7 July. It uses the same S3-964 64-bit chip. DOS and
Windows performance seem similar to the Stealth 64 in the PC mags, with
the variable of different drivers causing some discrepancies in
performance.
I don't see any big reason why the two should perform
differently under NEXTSTEP, unless they have different RAMDACs or if two
driver developers wrote them.
Of course, on a Pentium 90, even an ATI mach32 card will probably scream.
.................................kris
kmagnusson@zinc.com (NeXTmail OK)
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP with HP DAT drive
Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:38:50 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2ut0ma$58q@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <Cs5sC1.A6@euler.hnv.icem.de>
> Try as root,
> check permissions on device,
> apply tapefix for the appropriate device (default is /dev/rxt0 ?),
> setup the DAT to SCSI 1,
> check the console for messages,
> does the drive get correctly recognized on booting, i.e. does its
brand/version get printed in the
> monitor? (you can check this in the nmi-messages)
>
I just got the same HP C1533 drive, and I also have problems (although I
am using TALUS' PCI NCR SCSI driver, so there is a small chance that it is
at fault).
Even as root, I am getting problems. At bootup it is seen:
Jun 28 14:32:21 next mach: st: major number 8
Jun 28 14:32:21 next mach: st0: HP C1533A 9401
Jun 28 14:32:21 next mach: Registering: st0 at Target 5 LUN 0 at sc0
Yet SafetyNet (which is pretty smart) cannot seem to see a tape drive.
Accesses to /dev/rst0 make the drive spin and whir, but result in errors
in /usr/adm/messages:
Jun 28 15:53:11 next mach: st0, target 5, lun 0: op Mode Select returned
Bad SCSI Status Byte
Great joy! I have a help request into NeXT, but we shall have to see what
they will come up with. Now, if I only had a good DOS tape backup
driver...
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DEC XL & PAS Audio?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 00:35:37 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2ut40p$25q@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
We've got a DEC 560 XL PCI/ISA system in a fairly generic NEXTSTEP configuation
(Talus driver for the built-in SCSI, Intel EtherExpress & Diamond Viper PCI
video). Although NeXT certified it with the Media Vision Pro Audio Spectrum
card, we can't get ours to work properly.
The ISA PAS card is the 'studio' version which worked fine in our EISA-based
DEC ST system, but in the XL seems to either 'hiccup' (audio drop out & repeat)
or play with lots of static depending on which DMA channel we chose.
Anyone have one of these systems with a PAS who could send me information on
the configuration they're using? (I've got NeXT's configuration notes for both
the XL and the PAS but they don't seem to help -- we've no Adaptec boards and
we're not using IRQ 5, now what?)
Thanks,
- Christopher
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Half life of black hardware?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 01:27:33 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I have a Mono NeXTStation purchased new in the fall of 91. I am
tempted to add more memory (20MB to 32MB) and an external 1GB hard
disk (the internal disk is 200MB and very cramped).
QUESTION: Is it prudent to invest $1600 in this system? I am, in
general, very happy with it. And I certainly cannot afford to
replace it now. But for how long can I reasonably expect it to last?
Forever? 10 years? Two? I see a number of posts reporting fading
or otherwise malfunctioning monitors. Are these the original
monitors sold from 1988 to 1990 (the ones that came without a
built-in microphone at the front) or have people been having troubles
with monochrome monitors sold after 1990? Are there other components
that I can expect to give me trouble?
If possible, I would like to keep this system up and running for a
*very* long time, even if I buy something else down the road. But is
this possible? If not, I would rather start saving for something new
rather than investing in something old.
As always, your information and counsel are much appreciated. Many
thanks.
---
John Devlin
Department of Philosophy
The University of Michigan
From: chari@tanya.ma.utexas.edu (Christopher M. Whatley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell Dimension XPS P90 with NS 3.2?
Date: 29 Jun 1994 20:43:33 -0500
Organization: University Of Texas Mathematics
Message-ID: <2ut805$jsg@tanya.ma.utexas.edu>
Has anyone booted NS 3.2 with a Dell Dimension XPS P90 (90 Mhz
Pentium)? This machine has extended IDE and th #9 64-bit video.
Thanks.
--
Chris Whatley
University of Texas at Austin Mathematics
Ph: 512/471-7711x199(O),499-0475(H) Read the UT Mathematics WWW Page!
E-mail: chari@math.utexas.edu http://henri.ma.utexas.edu/
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Users ?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 01:30:38 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
Message-ID: <2ut77u$c8l@news1.digex.net>
References: <2urt55$pk8@gaia.cc.gatech.edu>
In article <2urt55$pk8@gaia.cc.gatech.edu>
debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) writes:
> As i am ready to buy a sound blaster 16
> sound card and use the driver posted on
> cs.orst.edu site, I was wondering if
> anyone was using that combination already
> on NSFIP 3.2 ?
>
I'd stay away from the SoundBlaster16 for now if you can. I have nothing but
problems with it:
It craps out if it gets too many sounds to quickly.
I have to boot DOS and reset it every time I do a hard reboot (or turn on my
system).
It does not work with NeXTIME.
The driver does not support recording.
I don't know if some of these problems have to do with my hardware config, and
the author has not replied to any of my E-mail.
Try something else, or put up with the problems until 3.3
- Scott
From: david@qtac.edu.au (David Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec AHA-2842VL Driver?? <<<HELP URGENT>>>
Date: 30 Jun 1994 02:20:30 GMT
Organization: University of Queensland
Message-ID: <2uta5e$j59@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au>
Does anyone know for *sure* if a driver exists (or will
exist soon) for the Adaptec AHA-2842VL SCSI card?
Please help, getting kind of desperate here...
--
david@qtac.edu.au
From: rick@axon.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Half life of black hardware?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 02:40:08 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <2utba8$6f0@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In article <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu writes:
>I have a Mono NeXTStation purchased new in the fall of 91. I am
>tempted to add more memory (20MB to 32MB) and an external 1GB hard
>disk (the internal disk is 200MB and very cramped).
>
>QUESTION: Is it prudent to invest $1600 in this system? I am, in
>general, very happy with it. And I certainly cannot afford to
>replace it now. But for how long can I reasonably expect it to last?
I have a Turbo Station I bought in spring 92, and it's still going
strong without a single problem. My colleagues have cubes (from 0.8
days, and a couple from the Businessland fire sale) and stations older
than that, and the only problems I can remember are a couple of bad
old-style monitors, and maybe one bad floptical. We expect our
machines to continue functioning at least a couple more years, and
hope for much longer than that. Contrast that with my Epson NX (which
I think is a nice Nextstep machine) that is less than a year old and
has already had the power supply and mother board replaced (under
warranty, thankfully).
<deleted text>
>
>... If not, I would rather start saving for something new
>rather than investing in something old.
You'll be able to use a SCSI disk on almost any other computer you
might buy, so that won't be a loss even if your slab should develop
problems. Most likely you'd be able to recycle, trade, or sell the
memory, so that wouldn't be a loss either.
I'd say go for it. That extra 800 Megs of space will make you feel
good for quite a while, and more memory always helps. I'll bet you
can get what you want for less than $1600, too.
Long live black hardware!
>---
>John Devlin
>Department of Philosophy
>The University of Michigan
--
Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713) 798-3346 | Fax: (713) 799-8544
Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
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From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: New Hardware up and Running, BenchMarks?
Message-ID: <schwettCs6uxH.5Lt@netcom.com>
Summary: Is this fast?
Keywords: Intel Stealth64 Pentium
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 02:29:41 GMT
Hi All!
I've just got NeXTStep up and running on my new System... and I was
wondering what sort of benchmarks are out there so I can get some hard
numbers for comparison.
The system is a 90mhz Pentium (Micronics Motherboard), PCI bus, 32 MB RAM,
and a Diamond Stealth64 PCI Video Adapter with 4MB VRAM. Originally, it was
an ATi Graphics Pro Turbo which is now sitting on the shelf next to me since
the drivers are not available yet.
I suspect that the bottleneck here is the Adaptec 1542CF, which is connected
to a Fujitsu M2694 1gb SCSI-II drive. "DiskPerformance.app" gives me an
index of about 1.0, which seems pretty poor.
Any suggestions on benchmarks or possible PCI SCSI adapters?
Will be happy to summarize...
mark
schwett@netcom.com
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep? (NeXT answers)
Date: 30 Jun 1994 04:00:43 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2utg1c$1e6@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <2ur9uu$398@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
In article <2ur9uu$398@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus
Wenzel) writes:
> >Has anyone had any luck with a 3rd party internal disk in a 712 (it would
> >be cheaper to buy a 260 and replace it with 1GB). And how about 3rd
> >party monitors? (HP peripherals as usual are overpriced).
> There's no problem using different hard disks and monitors. Of course I
> wouldn't buy a GB disk from HP at that price!
A NeXT software engineer in the kernel group spoke at the
"Meet the Engineers" Expo session (almost too cool a
session for words), on this subject. He stated that only
HP approved drives would be certified to work, as the
NEXTSTEP/HP SCSI driver would, in contrast to the m68k
code, attempt to negotiate every SCSI2 option
available, and that might hose some drives.
He also mentioned they hope to support the HP fast wide
diff SCSI2 hardware in 3.3/4.0. He later told me they
may be working on FDDI around 4.0 as well.
He also mentioned they optimized the NEXTSTEP/HP kernel
more for performance than the NEXTSTEP/Intel kernel,
which had more general compatibility as a goal.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New Hardware up and Running, BenchMarks?
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 02:04:30 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <Bo0wJ2W.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <schwettCs6uxH.5Lt@netcom.com>
Mark:
Here are the BMs for the eCe590 Pentium:
NXBench 2.0 1024x768x16 bit color = 1.48
Drive Performance = 2.2
BenchPress = 374 Total Tensors
Config:
32 MB RAM
90 Mhz Pentium
540 MB SCSI HDD(Quantum)~ 11 ms
NCR 53c825 PCI SCSI controller
Weitek 9100 PCI Video w / 2 MBVRAM
Cheers,
Marty
From: nils@daisy.syd.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MACH64 Prerelease NX-Benchs
Date: 29 Jun 1994 11:46:39 GMT
Organization: Sydlink e.V., 24937 Flensburg, Germany
Message-ID: <2urmuv$50@flens.syd.de>
System: 486 DX/2 66, J-Bond PCI + ATI MACH 64:
8 Bit Gray: 1,75
15 Bit Color: 0,88
32 Bit Color: 1,2 ( Due to Windows Server illness at 16 Bit !!)
Just posting, because some nice guys asked for it ...
Moin Moin: Nils
--
--
Nils Heidorn nils@daisy.syd.de
Muehlenstrasse 21b
24937 Flensburg
0461 / 55049 ( am Wochenende 04674 / 1477 )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64
Message-ID: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com>
Summary: Hmm... is this fast enough?
Keywords: benchmarks
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 07:22:44 GMT
I ran NXBench on some new hardware and here are the results:
129790 dhrystones/s
82.45 VAX Mips
1.48 NXFactor
(1180x864 32 bit color)
Some clarification on the NXFactor score : does it take into account pixel
depth, or is it independent of this? The failry low 1.48 result would lead
me to believe that the hardware/software combo of the Stealth 64 is only
1.48 times faster than the NeXTStation Turbo that got 1.0, but the NeXT
was running in a 2bit mode, whereas I ran in a 32 bit mode. If I could run
the Stealth64 in a 2 bit mode, would I get something like 20+?
Am I misinterpreting the benchmarks?
The system is based on a Micronics motherboard with 90mhz pentium CPU, PCI
bus, 32mb RAM, 256k cache, and so on...
Are there anyo ther results for 90mhz pentiums out there?
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski)
Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <1994Jun30.083323.11514@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:33:23 GMT
References: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com>
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
schwett@netcom.com wrote:
: Some clarification on the NXFactor score : does it take into account pixel
: depth, or is it independent of this? The failry low 1.48 result would lead
: me to believe that the hardware/software combo of the Stealth 64 is only
: 1.48 times faster than the NeXTStation Turbo that got 1.0, but the NeXT
: was running in a 2bit mode, whereas I ran in a 32 bit mode. If I could run
: the Stealth64 in a 2 bit mode, would I get something like 20+?
1.0 is the value for a non-Turbo NeXT.
Rene'
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP with HP DAT drive - problem solved
Message-ID: <1994Jun30.082222.28591@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:22:22 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <2ut0ma$58q@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <2ut0ma$58q@news.mic.ucla.edu> writes:
>
> > Try as root,
> > check permissions on device,
> > apply tapefix for the appropriate device (default is /dev/rxt0 ?),
> > setup the DAT to SCSI 1,
> > check the console for messages,
> > does the drive get correctly recognized on booting, i.e. does its
> brand/version get printed in the
> > monitor? (you can check this in the nmi-messages)
> >
>
> I just got the same HP C1533 drive, and I also have problems (although I
> am using TALUS' PCI NCR SCSI driver, so there is a small chance that it
is
> at fault).
>
> Even as root, I am getting problems. At bootup it is seen:
>
> Jun 28 14:32:21 next mach: st: major number 8
> Jun 28 14:32:21 next mach: st0: HP C1533A 9401
> Jun 28 14:32:21 next mach: Registering: st0 at Target 5 LUN 0 at sc0
>
> Yet SafetyNet (which is pretty smart) cannot seem to see a tape drive.
> Accesses to /dev/rst0 make the drive spin and whir, but result in errors
> in /usr/adm/messages:
>
> Jun 28 15:53:11 next mach: st0, target 5, lun 0: op Mode Select
returned
> Bad SCSI Status Byte
>
> Great joy! I have a help request into NeXT, but we shall have to see what
> they will come up with. Now, if I only had a good DOS tape backup
> driver...
>
> Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
> Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
> AGSM at UCLA
A follow up to my own posting. Well, I've been working on the problem and
found that the culprit were the wrong tapes.
This drive MUST have DDS tapes with the appropriate logo on them.
Everything else will, at most, be readable but not writable.
After purchasing the right tapes, all works fine! (Well, I havn't checked
SafetyNet yet, but my own backup software as well as tar work perfectly.)
My settings: tapefix (or mtset) setting the driver to fixed blocks
(512bytes) at boot time (may not even be necessary!)
using /dev/rst0 as device
-Robert
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From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 03:10:02 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <2uoje6$2vk@darkstar.isi.edu> <2ur9uu$398@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Markus Wenzel writes:
>carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes:
>>Has anyone had any luck with a 3rd party internal disk in a 712 (it would
>>be cheaper to buy a 260 and replace it with 1GB). And how about 3rd
>>party monitors? (HP peripherals as usual are overpriced).
>There's no problem using different hard disks and monitors. Of course I
>wouldn't buy a GB disk from HP at that price!
Yes there is. At the "Meet the Engineers" session at the NSExpo, the
gentleman who does RISC ports stated that the HP disk drivers were so highly
optimized that a number of 3rd party hard disks don't work (because they
advertise features that aren't implemented correctly), and in fact
he said that NeXT is only certifying HP drives on HPs.
Yipes!
Hopefully they'll back away from this and offer two drivers, one which isn't
so demanding. Personally, I'd like to be able to use my Barracuda on my
HP, but alas...
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which laserprinter to buy?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 11:53:36 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2uubo0$hc4@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <24062912281774@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>
TED ALLEN (TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu) wrote:
: I'm thinking of purchasing a PostScript printer for my NEXTSTEP PC. I'm
: looking at the HP LaserJet 4MP or the Apple LaserWriter Select 360. Does
: anyone have anything good or bad to say about these two printers? Are there
: better ones for the money?
I think the DEC DECLaser 1152 is the best value around for Postscript.
It costs $699 direct from DEC. Call them for the specs.
It has tons of features, like the ability to hook up Mac's or even
a VAX computer to it, etc..... check it out.
How many other Postscript printers are out there for under $700 ???
Gary
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From: kde@giotto.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus-Dietrich Engel)
Subject: IBM 0662-S12 as boot disk
Message-ID: <1994Jun30.123948.13861@fokus.gmd.de>
Keywords: boot disk
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:39:48 GMT
I had to replace my boot disk (the only disk in my b/w NeXtstation) by a
new disk.
I got an IBM 0662-S12 (1GB). We change it with the scsitools (byte 3 in
page 0 from 31 to b1 and byte 5 from 0 to 21). We could initialize the
disk (as second internal disk) in a cube and run BuildDisk on it without a
problem. Than we changed the SCSI id from 5 to 1 and removed the other
disk. The just build new disk did not spin up (we had the jumper 9-10 -
auto start enable). So we could not use the disk as the only boot disk.
When we have both disk in the cube (the old one with SCSI Id 1 and the new
one with Id 0) we can boot from the new disk but we get some error message
during the boot process but the process continued from the new disk and it
seemed to work.
The messages were:
boot sd(0,0,0)sdmach
more then ones:
SCSI unexpected msg:1
sc Unexpected msg
afterwards:
boot sd(0,0,0) sdmach
booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 ???????
blk0 boot: sd()sdmach
then 3 times:
sc: SCSI unexpected msg
sd: target 0 lun 0 opcode 18
sd: addr 0x43bbf10 bcount 66 rdflag 1
sd: sdstatus sdstate 0 rsid 66
sc: s5c state 7 status 0x87
sc: intrstatus 0x8 seqstep 0x4
sc: fifo level = 0 transfer count 0
sc: command 0x10 config 0x57
continuation as normal!
Does anybody have an idea whatelse to change or does this type of disk not
work as boot device?
___________________________________________________________________
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GMD FOKUS, Hardenbergplatz 2, D-10623 Berlin, Germany
Phone : ++49 / (0)30 / 254 99 - 217
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Users ?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 09:16:39 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <2uugjn$ntp@oclc.org>
References: <2urt55$pk8@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> <2ut77u$c8l@news1.digex.net>
Scott Bender (sbender@harmony.digex.net) wrote:
: Try something else, or put up with the problems until 3.3
Does this perhaps mean that a SB driver in NS 3.3 was announced at Expo?
Thanks, Robin (rhm@oclc.org)
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From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse on Black hardware
Date: 30 Jun 1994 05:48:15 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
Message-ID: <2utmav$1uh@disc.coactive.com>
Keywords: mouse,logitech
: P.S. I'll post a summary (including wiring diagrams and a parts
: list) if I can find the connectors.
Hi,
I managed to get the parts for the mouse. Included in this posting is a
diagram for the pinouts that I used, followed by the parts list. It turned
out that the DIN connectors are pretty standard, and can be gotten from
several sources. I also included the original mail sent by Mike Andrews
which I used as a basis for making the cable. Note that my pinout has XA
and XB reversed from what was originally posted.
Several people responded by asking what mouse I used. It's a Logitech
MouseMan Bus mouse, which comes with a ISA card for PC's. Does any know
whether the mouse can be purchased without the card? We plan on replacing
several mice that are on their last legs, but don't want to waste the
money on cards we'll never use.
PINOUT:
The following are pin placements for the connectors, looking at them from
the solder pin view (the end your looking at when soldering on the
cable). The numbers correspond the the 10 pin single row connector within
the Logitech mouse.
NEXT
------------
6 1 3
10 9 7
8 4
LOGITECH
------------
2 3 6
7 9 10 1
4 8
In addition to wiring the above with an 8 conductor cable, I added two
diodes to the Logitech connector to allow the middle button to active
both other buttons (used by many X packages to emulate the third button).
The diode cathodes (the banded end) should be both be soldered to pin 2,
the anodes should be connected to pins 1 and 3. I used low powered
switching diodes which fit within the Logitech 9 pin receptacle.
DIODE WIRING
--------------
pin 3 pin 2 pin 1
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |\ | | | /| |
| | \ | | | / | |
| | \ | | | / | |
|--------| >|-------+---------|< |--------|
| / | | \ |
| / | | \ |
|/ | | \|
PARTS:
The following are the parts which I ordered from Digi-Key:
DigiKey 1-800-344-4539
part # Description
-------- -------------------------
cp-2080-nd 8 pin in-line plug
cp-2190-nd 9 pin in-line receptacle
1n4150ph switching diodes
This is the original mail from Mike:
> From disc.coactive.com!netcomsv!netcom.com!netcomsv!decwrl!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!ukma!fragile!kramer Fri Jun 11 21:56:26 1993
> Path: disc.coactive.com!netcomsv!netcom.com!netcomsv!decwrl!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!ukma!fragile!kramer
> From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
> Subject: SUMMARY: Logitech Bus Mouse on Black Hardware -- pinouts needed
> Message-ID: <C8HDLE.2wL@fragile.termfrost.org>
> Date: 11 Jun 93 23:36:49 GMT
> Sender: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
> Reply-To: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
> Lines: 46
>
> I posted the other day asking about pinouts for the NeXT mouse so that I could
> wire up a Logitech mouse. Apparently this is a pretty popular thing to want
> to do, and I had several requests to post any responses I got, so:
>
> Antoine Gautier <antoine@osd.ulaval.ca> sent me a TIFF of the Logitech->NeXT
> wiring diagram -- looks like it was done by Sean Luke <sean@digaudio.byu.edu>
> originally. Rather than repost the TIFF, I'll make a crude ascii drawing:
> (part of which comes from info originally from kent@infoserv.com)
>
> On the NeXT end: 1: +5V 5: YB
> 6 7 8 2: XA 6: Right button
> 3 4 5 3: XB 7: Left button
> 1 2 4: YA 8: Ground
> Shell: chassis ground
>
> Inside the Logitech Bus MouseMan I have, there's a 10-pin connector:
>
> 1 - left button (green) Colors might vary on your mouse...
> 2 - mid button (purple)
> 3 - right button (grey)
> 4 - +5V (black)
> 5 - chassis ground, I think...
> 6 - ground (white)
> 7 - XA (red)
> 8 - XB (brown)
> 9 - YA (orange)
> 10 - YB (yellow)
>
> kent@infoserv.com has gotten an Amiga/Atari mouse/trackball to work too;
> if anyone wants that pinout, mail me (or him?)...
>
> Anyway, this little scheme seems to work... It'd work better if I could
> solder worth a darn (apparnently I soldered XA and XB backwards today, and
> produced a mouse that moved the cursor left when pushed right, and moved the
> cursor right when pushed left :-)... but other than that minor oversight,
> it seems to work REAL nicely.
>
> Thanks to everyone who responded! Hope this helps all of you who responded
> with "me too"'s too...
>
> Mike
> --
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> kramer@wittenberg.edu (school) "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus."
> kramer@mik.uky.edu (hometown) -- Primus
>
Otto
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From: trey@hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need help with NeXT mono monitor
Date: 30 Jun 1994 08:38:02 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9406301337.AA01468@hsv.tybrin.com>
I have a NeXT monochrome monitor here made in February 1991 that has died. It
died slowly over a one month time frame and finally kicked the bucket
yesterday. Here are the symptoms:
- sometimes it would not display upon power on. A shutdown and subsequent
power on would do the trick. The monitor would behave normally from that point
on.
- Yesterday we had a brief power outage. After we regained utility power the
monitor would not come on at all, even after several re-applications of the
power. A couple of light taps on the size of the case brought back the
picture. It came back in this way: it started as a short but full width image
with a jaggy top and bottom and expanded with 'well placed' taps to fill the
screen.
- On the second outage of the day, the monitor would not come on again.
Note: upon power on I still hear the 'charging / loading of static ' sound from
the monitor that is normally heard but there is no image. I tested the monitor
on another slab and it still does not work. A working monitor from the other
slab was put on my machine and it works, so the problem is in the monitor for
sure.
Does anyone have any idea what could have happened to this monitor? Is there
a repair manual available?
Thanks for any help.
Trey
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From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: Which laserprinter to buy?
Message-ID: <dcodeCs7qqt.Jvp@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <24062912281774@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 13:56:53 GMT
In article <24062912281774@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>,
TED ALLEN <TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> wrote:
>I'm thinking of purchasing a PostScript printer for my NEXTSTEP PC. I'm
>looking at the HP LaserJet 4MP or the Apple LaserWriter Select 360. Does
>anyone have anything good or bad to say about these two printers? Are there
>better ones for the money?
I'm using an Apple LaserWriter Select 360 with my NeXTSTEP/Intel machine
and absolutely *LOVE* it!!! It's an awesome machine, fast, 600 dpi and
(relatively) quiet. Hooking it up to my PC was simple and it just worked
from within NeXTSTEP.
As I understand it the biggest difference between the HP and the Select
360 are that the HP is a little more expensive but has better power
management and toner saving features. Don't know if the HP has multiple
ports, but I print to my Select 360 from a Mac, Windows and NeXTSTEP
without doing anything to the printer, it figures out what to do. I've
always been a big fan of Apple printers, and this one exceeded my
expectations. Highly recommended.
Paul
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From: igerard@shadok.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SyQuest
Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:49:41 GMT
Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France
Message-ID: <2uupil$k4@wolfy.ina.fr>
Can I read SyQuest Dos formated disk on a NeXT station or NS/FIP ?
Thanks in advance.
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NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP on SGI !!!!!!!!!!!!
From: rvilla@cfdlab.ae.utexas.edu (reynaldo villarreal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Best PC hardware for running NEXT
Date: 30 Jun 94 09:47:56
Organization: CFD Lab, Dept ASE-EM, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <RVILLA.94Jun30094756@umbriel.ae.utexas.edu>
References: <9406301337.AA01468@hsv.tybrin.com>
In-reply-to: trey@hsv.tybrin.com's message of 30 Jun 1994 08:38:02 -0500
I am interested in running NextSTEP and need to now the best Intel
Hardware available to run it. (i.e. best video card, SCSI controller,
etc..) Does Gateway or Dell have a Pentium 90 or 100 which can run Nextstep.
From: duck@Novell.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 64 Performance Info Wanted
Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:30:24 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Message-ID: <2uuoeg$fb8@bantu.provo.novell.com>
References: <2usv0q$qfs@u.cc.utah.edu>
In article <2usv0q$qfs@u.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) writes:
>
> I don't see any big reason why the two should perform
> differently under NEXTSTEP, unless they have different RAMDACs or if two
> driver developers wrote them.
>
> .................................kris
>
> kmagnusson@zinc.com (NeXTmail OK)
According to the table on pg.214 of the 6/28 issue of PC Magazine,
the Diamond Stealth 64 has a Brooktree 485 RAMDAC and
the #9GXE64 Pro has a TI 3025 RAMDAC.
--Duck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
Message-ID: <Cs7tHr.FwM@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 14:56:14 GMT
In article <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William
Shipley) writes:
>>Markus Wenzel writes:
>>
>>>carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes:
>>
>>>>Has anyone had any luck with a 3rd party internal disk in a 712 (it would
>>>>be cheaper to buy a 260 and replace it with 1GB). And how about 3rd
>>>>party monitors? (HP peripherals as usual are overpriced).
>>
>>>There's no problem using different hard disks and monitors. Of course I
>>>wouldn't buy a GB disk from HP at that price!
>>
>>Yes there is. At the "Meet the Engineers" session at the NSExpo, the
>>gentleman who does RISC ports stated that the HP disk drivers were so highly
>>optimized that a number of 3rd party hard disks don't work (because they
>>advertise features that aren't implemented correctly), and in fact
>>he said that NeXT is only certifying HP drives on HPs.
>>
>>Yipes!
>>
>>Hopefully they'll back away from this and offer two drivers, one which isn't
>>so demanding. Personally, I'd like to be able to use my Barracuda on my
>>HP, but alas...
Yipes again!
So that's why my boss's 712 wouldn't boot off an external Sun drive ?
--
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Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dumb Terminals
Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:54:59 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2uupsj$6ad@news1.digex.net>
Does anyone have a recommendation on dumb terminals hooked up by Ethernet
so I can have some other people at the house to some Telnet work on my
MOO? All I need is the ability to plug two or three into the network, and
all I want them to do is telnet to a local port and code away? Any
particular brands (color not needed)? Price ranges?
Thanks!
Chris
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A on NeXTStations
Message-ID: <Cs7Inz.CG@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Jun29.155807.2528@crih.fdn.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 11:02:22 GMT
In article <1994Jun29.155807.2528@crih.fdn.org> gildas@crih.fdn.org (Gildas NOEL) writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anybody know if the new Fujitsu M2512A (230Mb 3.5" MOD) is
> working with NeXTStations ?
>
> Has anybody configured the disktab correctly for this drive ? Is
> there particular switch setting ?
A certain Thomas Banks from Fujitsu Germany is said to have confirmed that the 2512A should work
with black hardware.
This is third hand knowledge only!
I also heard rumors about timeouts on earlier MODS, sorry.
Maybe as this matter seems to be of growing interest we should start a MOD-FAQ?
Please keep me informed, Juergen
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need help with NeXT mono monitor
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 11:48:06 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ki4iYq_00iV882mc1d@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <9406301337.AA01468@hsv.tybrin.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 30-Jun-94 Need help with
NeXT mono mo.. by Trey McClendon@hsv.tybri
> - Yesterday we had a brief power outage. After we regained utility power
> the monitor would not come on at all, even after several re-applications of
> the power. A couple of light taps on the size of the case brought back the
> picture. It came back in this way: it started as a short but full width
> image with a jaggy top and bottom and expanded with 'well placed' taps to
> fill the screen.
Sounds a lot like a bad connection somewhere in the vertical driver circuitry.
You can probably fix things if you are electrically inclined and you
know what you're doing. If you have never adjusted a monitor before,
take it to a shop or Bell Atlantic service; monitors are simply too
dangerous to try to repair if you don't know and understand high voltage
safety procedures.
Good luck,
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
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From: garton@ciao.cc.columbia.edu (Bradford Garton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: IDE drives > 500 Mbytes
Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:53:55 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <2uupqj$2oa@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Is there a problem with NS/FIP 3.2 addressing IDE drives > 500 Mbytes?
I'm looking at a 1 Gbyte IDE drive with a Dell machine.
Thanks!
Brad Garton
music dept.
garton@columbia.edu
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 18:40:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <2uv3ia$nse@cs.ubc.ca>
References: <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com>
In article <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com
(William Shipley) writes:
> Markus Wenzel writes:
> >There's no problem using different hard disks and monitors. Of course I
> >wouldn't buy a GB disk from HP at that price!
>
> Yes there is. At the "Meet the Engineers" session at the NSExpo, the
> gentleman who does RISC ports stated that the HP disk drivers were so
highly
> optimized that a number of 3rd party hard disks don't work (because they
> advertise features that aren't implemented correctly), and in fact
> he said that NeXT is only certifying HP drives on HPs.
>
> Yipes!
Yup, we got burned using a Seagate ST31200 1.2 G drive, which won't work.
This isn't just a NEXTSTEP problem; HP/UX 9.01 also gave the same errors,
but evidently there's a patch for HP/UX. I've submitted a bug report
to NeXT, and the same fix is supposed to be in the production NEXTSTEP
version, so my fingers are crossed...
There was a thread going on in comp.sys.hp.hardware about SCSI timing
problems with the SCSI controller chip on the 712's. It's still not clear
(to me anyways) whether or not it's a driver problem or a strictly
hardware problem.
Yipes for sure.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: volker@janus.ping.de
Subject: video-refresh with ISA-ET4000
Message-ID: <Cs863y.DF@janus.ping.de>
Keywords: ET4000
Sender: volker@janus.ping.de (Volker Wilhelm)
Organization: private NeXT-site
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:28:45 GMT
I have running NS3.2 on my ISA-PC with a no-name ET4000 graphics card in
2-bit grayscale mode at 1024*768. It works just fine except of the video
refresh rate, which is only about 60 Hz and causes a nervousness
flickering. Does anybody know of a ET4000 device driver with a higher
refresh-rate ? Are there other, more ergonomic solutions based on ISA-bus
graphics cards ?
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From: pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete Helme)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 30 Jun 1994 17:49:51 GMT
Organization: General Magic, Inc.
Sender: %.
Message-ID: <2uv0jv$alq@gatekeep.genmagic.com>
References: <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com> <2uhk4q$bb3@search01.news.aol.com>
<neuss.772809966@budlight>
The price for the "development" ObjectStation (100 MHz DX/4, 1 GB HD,
32 MB RAM, 2x CD-ROM, NeXT style keyboard & mouse, NeXTStep User &
Developer) is around $9,500... *not* including the monitor. This is
straight from Canon.
My reaction to that is: when will NeXTStep for HP/PARISC ship!?!
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 29 Jun 1994 20:37:43 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <2usm2n$90@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <neuss.772809966@budlight>
In article <neuss.772809966@budlight> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
writes:
|>adguys@aol.com (Adguys) writes:
|>
|>>In article <2uel8b$r0k@j51.com>, gwh@j51.com (Gene Homicki) writes:
|>> "FaxBack documents 8001 and 8002 are both about the
|>>object.station.They provide specs and a somewhat fuzzy picture, but
|>>no prices."
|>>More data is apparently going to be available within a few days via
|>>fax. In the meantime, call the voice 800# 800-349-6007. They are (get
|>>this) smart and friendly on the phone.
|>
|>Maybe Some Kind Soul (TM) could upload the .fax files to
|>sonata or cs.orst.edu? For non-US citizens, it is not
|>possible to get 1-800 info. Should somebody do it, please
|>let the net know.
|>
|>Thank you very very much!
|>Chris
|>--
|>"I ride a tandem with the random.."
|>Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
|>Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
|>e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
HEAR HEAR! That would be a nice gesture!
Best
Michael
---
_____________________________________________
Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark
NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk
_____________________________________________
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep? (NeXT answers)
Date: 30 Jun 1994 19:10:07 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Message-ID: <2uv5af$bsb@news.icaen.uiowa.edu>
References: <2ur9uu$398@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2utg1c$1e6@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <2ur9uu$398@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus
>Wenzel) writes:
>> >Has anyone had any luck with a 3rd party internal disk in a 712 (it would
>> >be cheaper to buy a 260 and replace it with 1GB). And how about 3rd
>> >party monitors? (HP peripherals as usual are overpriced).
>> There's no problem using different hard disks and monitors. Of course I
>> wouldn't buy a GB disk from HP at that price!
>A NeXT software engineer in the kernel group spoke at the
>"Meet the Engineers" Expo session (almost too cool a
>session for words), on this subject. He stated that only
>HP approved drives would be certified to work, as the
>NEXTSTEP/HP SCSI driver would, in contrast to the m68k
>code, attempt to negotiate every SCSI2 option
>available, and that might hose some drives.
>He also mentioned they hope to support the HP fast wide
>diff SCSI2 hardware in 3.3/4.0. He later told me they
>may be working on FDDI around 4.0 as well.
>He also mentioned they optimized the NEXTSTEP/HP kernel
>more for performance than the NEXTSTEP/Intel kernel,
>which had more general compatibility as a goal.
Considering you can use almost any SCSI-2 hard drive on an HP running HP-UX
I think the fears in this group that you "must buy HP" drives are unfounded.
BTW, HP has shipped us 700 series workstations with Seagate 11200N and 31200N,
Micropolis 2210 (I think) and Quantum 425 and 525's. So you should at least
be able to use one of those if you are truly paranoid.
Just grab a copy of /etc/disktab from an HP-UX machine and look at all the
entries in there, they aren't just HP drives, they are all drives that have
shipped with HP machines at some time in the past.
--
Doug Siebert | I have a proof that everything I have stated above
dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu | is true, but this .sig is too small to contain it.
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64
Date: 30 Jun 1994 19:16:01 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Message-ID: <2uv5lh$bsc@news.icaen.uiowa.edu>
References: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com> <1994Jun30.083323.11514@prz.tu-berlin.de>
rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) writes:
>schwett@netcom.com wrote:
>: Some clarification on the NXFactor score : does it take into account pixel
>: depth, or is it independent of this? The failry low 1.48 result would lead
>: me to believe that the hardware/software combo of the Stealth 64 is only
>: 1.48 times faster than the NeXTStation Turbo that got 1.0, but the NeXT
>: was running in a 2bit mode, whereas I ran in a 32 bit mode. If I could run
>: the Stealth64 in a 2 bit mode, would I get something like 20+?
>1.0 is the value for a non-Turbo NeXT.
They don't compensate for bit depth, so you would see better scores if you
weren't in 32 bit mode. I think my non-turbo colorstation (1152x832 or
whatever it is, 16 bit color) got about 0.62 or so. Turbo colors come in at
around 1, I believe, so you're about 50% faster than a turbocolor.
What I really want to see is the numbers for an HP once the OS is ready to go.
I wonder what a 735/125 with HCRX24-Z would get? (At a guess, I'd say maybe
7 or 8, of course that box would cost you $50K ;-) ) Since the 712 has no
graphics acceleration and has to go through that color recovery hardware, I
have to wonder how well it'll do, it may end up not being able to beat the
highest end P5/90 systems.
--
Doug Siebert | I have a proof that everything I have stated above
dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu | is true, but this .sig is too small to contain it.
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542C troubles
Date: 30 Jun 1994 19:06:53 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2uv54d$2r6@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com>
In article <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
:I have a Gateway P5-60 that has an Adaptec 1542C SCSI adapter on it but I
:cant get NS/FIP up on it.
:
:When I use the driver on the floppy it simply reports that no SCSI drive
:found.
:
:The one from ftp.next.com goes nuts with repeating the following message
:: thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735
:What to do?
You're using the updated Adaptec driver, then? I ask because, as far as
we know, this update fixes the "thread: waitForInterrupt" problem when you
follow the instructions for installing with the update (NeXTanswers
document 1541). If you have a case where it doesn't, we'd like to know
about it; send us mail with a detailed description of your system and
installation procedure at ask_next@next.com.
Then, in article <Cs2vI0.ACD@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com
responds:
:Is it not true that NS is not certified for the 1542C, but for
:the 1542A or 1542B only?
Nope. Time to trot out this handy little chart again:
Drive size 3.1 3.2 3.2 w/update
1542B < 1 GB S S S
1542B > 1 GB NS NS S*
1542C any S S S
1542CF < 1 GB NS S S
1542CF > 1 GB NS NS S
* with appropriate firmware
Hope this clears things up!
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542C troubles
Date: 30 Jun 1994 19:39:23 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2uv71b$2ru@rosie.next.com>
References: <2uv54d$2r6@rosie.next.com>
In article <2uv54d$2r6@rosie.next.com> I write:
:
: Drive size 3.1 3.2 3.2 w/update
:1542B < 1 GB S S S
:1542B > 1 GB NS NS S*
:1542C any S S S
:1542CF < 1 GB NS S S
:1542CF > 1 GB NS NS S
:
:* with appropriate firmware
Oops, I seem to have forgotten the key here! If you didn't guess...
S = supported
NS = not supported -- not "NEXTSTEP" :)
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: marko@nudge.io.org (Mark R. Onyschuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth vs. #9GXE: which is faster under NS/I?
Date: 30 Jun 1994 18:17:16 GMT
Organization: Internex Online, Toronto, Ontario, Canada (416 363 3783)
Message-ID: <2uv27c$ob7@ionews.io.org>
References: <2uc7h0$414@u.cc.utah.edu>
Yan Fang (yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote:
: I'm about ready to buy a Pentium 90, and I need to pick a video card. Now
: that NeXT has released drivers for Diamond Stealth 64 and #9GXE 64, the
: video decision becomes harder.
: If anyone has benched these cards under NS/I with a decent bench program,
: I'd like to see the results.
: .........................kris
I fixed my troubles with the #9GXE by trading it in for a #9GXE64 Pro :-)
Here are the results of running NXBench on a Dimension XPS P90 system:
dhrystones 123456 (really!)
MIPS 78.3847
1180 * 864 * 8bit greyscale
line 1.74645
arc 1.67418
fill 1.68298
trans 3.41136
comp 1.37469
userp 3.50796
text 1.82655
wind 0.94049
NXFactor 2.02
1180 * 864 * 16 bit colour
line 1.97550
arc 1.95896
fill 1.16682
trans 2.95426
comp 1.34542
userp 3.06527
text 1.12092
wind 0.68069
NXFactor 1.78
I'm pretty pleased -- this one feels very much like "the real thing;" perhaps
even better. Still, it doesn't match up to the HP712/60 or /80 that I've
tried, but I have no complaints.
Regards,
Mark
From: douglas@delmar.ewl.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64
Date: 30 Jun 94 17:00:38
Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <douglas.94Jun3017038@delmar.ewl.uky.edu>
References: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com> <1994Jun30.083323.11514@prz.tu-berlin.de> <2uv5lh$bsc@news.icaen.uiowa.edu>
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I have a 735/99 that I could run tests on if someone could send me the NXBench app.
Also have access to a 712/60 if you want that info too.
john.....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: 90MHz Pentium motherboards
Message-ID: <1994Jun30.193845.23146@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:38:45 GMT
Sorry if this is a repost- I'm not sure if the last one made it out...
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with ordering a Pentium
90MHz (or 100MHz) motherboard mail order? Are there any brands that
specifically don't work with NS? BIOSes?
I'm particularly interested in a VL/EISA combo in order not to lose my
investment in graphics/SCSI controllers. VL/PCI would work too as long as
it has 2VL, 4ISA and x PCI. Thanks for any tips!
Mike Stepniczka
mike_stepniczka@il.us.swissbank.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:31:38 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <Yi4nauy00iV345c0IM@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Cs7tHr.FwM@txnews.amd.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 30-Jun-94 Re: HP 712/60 vs
90MHz Pent.. by Ron Pomeroy:
>> Yes there is. At the "Meet the Engineers" session at the NSExpo, the
>> gentleman who does RISC ports stated that the HP disk drivers were so
>> highly optimized that a number of 3rd party hard disks don't work
>> (because they advertise features that aren't implemented correctly), and
>> in fact he said that NeXT is only certifying HP drives on HPs.
>>
>> Yipes!
>>
>> Hopefully they'll back away from this and offer two drivers, one which
>> isn't so demanding. Personally, I'd like to be able to use my Barracuda
>> on my HP, but alas...
>
> Yipes again!
>
> So that's why my boss's 712 wouldn't boot off an external Sun drive ?
Among other things, there is a problem with some of the SCSI controller
chips on the HP 712's motherboards. Apparently, this chip exceeds the
SCSI timing spec for the SCSI bus, so that many drives aren't ready to
respond when the chip blasts back a response.
Some people on the comp.sys.hp.hardware group have claimed that using an
extra meter of SCSI cable is enough to fix borderline cases, as the
longer cable causes the signal to take about 3 microseconds longer to
reach the drive (we're talking about too-fine tolerances here, IMHO!)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:40:36 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4i4njIq00iV305c3Vj@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2uv5lh$bsc@news.icaen.uiowa.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 30-Jun-94 Re: NXBench Results
: 90MHZ.. by Doug Siebert@icaen.uiowa
> Since the 712 has no graphics acceleration and has to go through that color
> recovery hardware, I have to wonder how well it'll do, it may end up not
> being able to beat the highest end P5/90 systems.
Don't worry about color recovery slowing down the graphics on an HP.
The Artist chip used apparently isn't being driven nearly to capacity on
a slow machine like the 712. :-) Check out this URL for a "whitepaper"
(technical doc) on this from HP:
http://www.hp.com/mhm/WhitePapers/Artist/Artist.html
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DECpc XL/ProAudioSpectrum - NOT
Date: 30 Jun 1994 22:13:02 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uvg1f$70u@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2unvt9$jlv@sgate.com>
matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) writes:
> I've got a DECpc XL 466d2. 340M HD, DEC CD ROM (SCSI IDs 0 and
> 5, respectively). I'm using the Talus NCR SCSI driver. I have
> an Intel EtherExpress ethernet card, IRQ 10. I've got a ProAudio
> Spectrum 16, which is giving me a whole lot of trouble.
>
> The install.exe file in c:\proaudio in the DOS underworld will
> pretty much limit me to DMAs 3, 5, and ... well, I think that's
> it. IRQs are fairly limited too; 11 or 15.
>
> No combination works.
>
> I tried moving the EtherExpress to IRQ 11, and the PAS to 5/10,
> but the EtherExpress wasn't recognized and the PAS didn't work
> anyway.
I have a DECpc XL560, 1gig HD, DEC CD ROM, Talus driver, Intel
EtherExpress, and the ProAudio Spectrum 16. I have a miroCrystal
32S video card (PCI, 4-meg), if that's of interest. Not exactly
the same as your config, but pretty close.
To get the PAS-16 to work, I went into Configure.app (in /NextAdmin
on NeXTSTEP, I do not muck about in the DOS underworld). I have
the DMA channel set to 2, the IRQ level set to 5, and the port
address set to 0x388. I imagine you have to change the settings
in Configure.app, changing the settings in the DOS underworld
will probably not do much of anything in NeXTSTEP.
My Intel EtherExpress card is set to IRQ 10 and port address 0x300.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 30 Jun 1994 22:23:26 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uvgku$7c9@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2uv0jv$alq@gatekeep.genmagic.com>
pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete Helme) writes:
> The price for the "development" ObjectStation (100 MHz DX/4, 1 GB HD,
> 32 MB RAM, 2x CD-ROM, NeXT style keyboard & mouse, NeXTStep User &
> Developer) is around $9,500... *not* including the monitor. This is
> straight from Canon.
Note that a significant portion of that price is the "NeXTSTEP User
and Developer". If you subtract the list prices of those from the
machine, the price isn't all that outrageous for a high-end Intel
box with all the things this box comes with.
[note: I already have my NS/Intel box, so I haven't really been
looking all that close at the object.station...]
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch).
Date: 1 Jul 1994 00:52:42 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no>
My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about
_impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch
manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either:
a. a new NeXT mouse.
b. a used NeXT mouse
c. a microswitch (the factory one is: 1668RAE D2F-01, made by Omron, Japan)
d. suggestions (maybe other third party mice will work?)
I have an original cube which has been upgraded several times, and
that includes the original keyboard (not ADB) and monitor series.
For the moment I've configured Preferences to use the mouse as a
right handed one so I can still use the other button, but I'd like
to fix it before it dies completely.
Please e-mail replies.
Regards,
---
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64
Message-ID: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com>
Summary: Some more benchmarks resuls...
Keywords: benchmark p54c pentium 90mhz Stealth NXFactor
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:46:41 GMT
Since there seemed to be some interest, I've (re)posted the
benchmark results for the following system:
Micronics 90mhz P54C Motherboard, PCI Bus
32 Megabytes DRAM (256kSRAM)
Diamond Stealth 64PCI w/4MB VRAM
Adaptec 1542CF
Fujitsu M2694ESA SCSI-II HD (1GB)
*NXBench*
Dhrystones : 132,158
VAX MIPS : 83.9
NXFactor :
Color Depth 8bit 16bit 32 bit
(All tests at 1152x864)
NXFactor 1.98065 1.253541 1.483836
line 1.58195 0.99211 1.04784
arc/bezier 1.58476 0.97030 1.00300
fill 1.63166 0.79493 0.77730
transform 3.41136 2.52810 3.41136
composite 1.34709 0.78228 0.67299
userpath 3.42304 2.62088 3.05481
text 1.82022 0.85461 1.46252
window 1.04041 0.48509 0.44083
(If anybody would care to enlighten us about the discrepancies in the
scores,
I'd be very happy... why should the 16 bit scores be worse than 32 bit?
Is
this perhaps because the 32 bit driver is specifically for 4MB VRAM cards
and
can thus use that extra VRAM for buffering or something, whereas the 16 bit
driver is for use with 2MB cards also? Just a wild guess...)
*BYTE Benchmarks*
/LocalApps/Benchmarks/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/3850.dat
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 16719.5 6.2
Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 14411.0 5.1
Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 14414.0 5.1
C Compiler Test 24.1 67.5 2.8
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 132474.0 5.5
Execl Throughput Test 23.7 91.3 3.9
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 828.0 1.6
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 51367.0 2.8
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 907.0 1.5
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 3850.3 3.3
Process Creation Test 34.0 104.3 3.1
Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 2052.6 6.3
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 12.6 3.3
=========
SUM of 13 items 50.5
AVERAGE 3.9
Obviously, the disk performance is the weak point here. This is more or
less what I expected, since I am not too thrilled about the Adaptec 1542CF
controller. Any suggestions on a good PCI SCSI controller for NeXTStep
would be appreciated!
Thanks...
Mark Schwettmann
schwett@netcom.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DECpc XL/ProAudioSpectrum - NOT
Date: 1 Jul 1994 00:11:01 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uvmul$btt@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <2uvg1f$70u@usenet.rpi.edu>
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
> To get the PAS-16 to work, I went into Configure.app (in /NextAdmin
> on NeXTSTEP, I do not muck about in the DOS underworld). I have
> the DMA channel set to 2, the IRQ level set to 5, and the port
> address set to 0x388. I imagine you have to change the settings
> in Configure.app, changing the settings in the DOS underworld
> will probably not do much of anything in NeXTSTEP.
Let me try this again...
The DMA channel for PAS-16 is set to 1, *not* 2.
The IRQ level is indeed 5.
It's my floppy drive which has a DMA of 2 (and an IRQ of 6).
Note that this is running NS/Intel-3.2
> My Intel EtherExpress card is set to IRQ 10 and port address 0x300.
This part was right, at least.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Message-ID: <1994Jul1.004331.10449@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <2uhk4q$bb3@search01.news.aol.com> <neuss.772809966@budlight> <2uv0jv$alq@gatekeep.genmagic.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 00:43:31 GMT
In article <2uv0jv$alq@gatekeep.genmagic.com> pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete Helme) writes:
>The price for the "development" ObjectStation (100 MHz DX/4, 1 GB HD,
>32 MB RAM, 2x CD-ROM, NeXT style keyboard & mouse, NeXTStep User &
>Developer) is around $9,500... *not* including the monitor. This is
>straight from Canon.
>
>My reaction to that is: when will NeXTStep for HP/PARISC ship!?!
If you think you're going to get a cheaper solution that way, forget it.
You can get the following from Canon:
object.station 41, 32M RAM, 500M disk, $4600.00 (no monitor)
You can also get a fully PCI based Pentium (ethernet, video, SCSI
controller, sound) for about $4300, if you try hard (no monitor here
as well). The video also does 1280x1024 in 16 bit mode, at 72Hz,
and you get fast SCSI II. The integrated audio is also a pretty
good thing.
You can also get a 16/250 Gecko, with 8 bit color (a bit slower
I hear), with 1024x768 and a faster processor, and a 15" monitor
for $3995. If you want to move up into the 17" monitor, you
have the shell out BUCKS. If you want to move up to a 17"
monitor, you have to shell out MORE BUCKS. Large bucks.
As in thousands to do both. Pluse, you lose the software
base we have in DOS/Windows support in NEXTSTEP + the
ability to boot DOS/Windows/NT/OS2/Chicago/Linux if you
ever become disgruntled.
So, you're paying about $300 more than the Pentium for the fastest
NEXTSTEP video, but taking a hit in the processor department (a small
hit though). You also get pretty good support from Canon, a very
slick package (hey, it fits on your desktop!), and the knowledge that
your machine was built for NEXTSTEP.
All in all, it looks like a very nice turnkey solution, and if I were
going to be setting up say 30 machines, I'd definitely make this
a consideration.
It looks like a pretty nice package to me. And worth the cash.
The next one we get will probably be an object.station 42 ;-).
- db
--
I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors?
Message-ID: <1994Jun30.212157.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 02:21:57 GMT
Has there been any talk from NeXT about supporting multiple processors under
NeXTSTEP?
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
No NeXTMail (unfortunately)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: Sony CDW-900E and Rock Ridge - How?
Message-ID: <Cs8L69.K2v@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 00:54:09 GMT
Hi everyone,
We have a Sony CDW-900E CD-ROM writer here, currently running from a
Mac using Sony's Hybrid formatter 1.1 software.
We need to write an ISO9660 CD-ROM with RockRidge extensions - a Un*x
(NeXT) file system. We have software to build a RockRidge CD-ROM
image.
1. Can we dump that image from the Mac to the writer?
2. Can we hang the writer off on of our NeXTs and dump the file to it
block by block?
3. Is there any way we can write RockRidge CD's on it?
Many thanks,
Alastair
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New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Half life of black hardware?
Message-ID: <2uvtvk$of@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Date: 1 Jul 1994 02:11:00 GMT
References: <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes:
>I have a Mono NeXTStation purchased new in the fall of 91. I am
>tempted to add more memory (20MB to 32MB) and an external 1GB hard
>disk (the internal disk is 200MB and very cramped).
>QUESTION: Is it prudent to invest $1600 in this system? I am, in
Memory: If it's a Turbo, get 16 MB SIMMS and you will not go wrong.
The bad news is that if it's not (doesn't look like it), you
probably won't be able to use those 4 MB SIMMS you are buying in
your next computer.
Disk: Don't get a 1 GB disk - get a 2 GB disk! $/Mbyte, they're a
much better deal. Get a SCSI-2 disk (almost all 2 GB disks are)
and you will have no problem using it on your next machine, I would
bet.
There you go, take away most of the risk. It's not like you're
buying components that won't work in your next NEXTSTEP-capable
hardware, or that will fuse out once you put them in your machine.
It's not like replacing the fuel pump on a 1978 Duster. :-)
>general, very happy with it. And I certainly cannot afford to
>replace it now. But for how long can I reasonably expect it to last?
I expect to use my black hardware another 3 years. It does
everything I want it to very admirably. New release of the OS
support is only promised through the end of next year, though. (Hey,
3.2 works just fine, thanks)
>Forever? 10 years? Two? I see a number of posts reporting fading
>or otherwise malfunctioning monitors. Are these the original
>monitors sold from 1988 to 1990 (the ones that came without a
>built-in microphone at the front) or have people been having troubles
>with monochrome monitors sold after 1990? Are there other components
>that I can expect to give me trouble?
If your machine is 3 years old and you haven't had problems, you
probably won't. The first 2000 or so N4000A's sold had a defect (every
single one we got in our first shipment in '91 had it!), but they
went bad within about 6 months to a year.
--
David Lemson
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64
Date: 1 Jul 1994 01:57:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2uvt61INNbqq@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com>
Keywords: benchmark p54c pentium 90mhz Stealth NXFactor
In article <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com>, schwett@netcom.com writes:
|> Since there seemed to be some interest, I've (re)posted the
|> benchmark results for the following system:
[stuff deleted]
|> Color Depth 8bit 16bit 32 bit
|> (All tests at 1152x864)
|> NXFactor 1.98065 1.253541 1.483836
|>
|> (If anybody would care to enlighten us about the discrepancies in the
|> scores,
|> I'd be very happy... why should the 16 bit scores be worse than 32 bit?
|> Is
|> this perhaps because the 32 bit driver is specifically for 4MB VRAM cards
|> and
|> can thus use that extra VRAM for buffering or something, whereas the 16 bit
|> driver is for use with 2MB cards also? Just a wild guess...)
There's been some related discussion in the thread about the Canon object.
station in c.s.n.hardware. I'd guess that it's mainly alignment overhead
that drags down the performance at the 16-bit depth. NextStep uses a 4444
(RGBAlpha) internal representation at 16 bits. PC display adapters generally
use a 555 representation. Conversion between these formats requires quite
a bit of shifting and bit-fiddling on the part of the CPU. NextStep's 8888
internal representation for 32-bit color is quite similar to the display
card's 888 format - although pixel-packing might have to be tweaked, at
least the CPU doesn't have to mess with the individual color channels...
|> Mark Schwettmann
|> schwett@netcom.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Any experiences with Diamond Stealth 64 Pro or JCIS Power Shark video boards?
Message-ID: <1994Jun30.143503.19098@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 14:35:03 GMT
I am in the process of looking for a Pentium machine to run NEXTSTEP. I have
narrowed it down to two similiar spec'ed and priced machines. One of the main
differences is that one has the Diamond Stealth 64 Pro (S3-964 based) with 4 MB
VRAM and the other has the JCIS Power Shark (W9100 based) with 4MB VRAM. The
drivers for them from NeXT and JCIS support similar (if not identical)
resolutions and scan rates. So, the question is does anybody have any
experiences with either of these? How do they compare (in terms of speed) to
each other or to the miro 32S?
Thanks for the help...
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64
In-Reply-To: schwett@netcom.com's message of Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:46:41 GMT
To: schwett@netcom.com
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun30225356@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 02:53:56 GMT
In article <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
Here a few comparison values for a 712/60 running HP/UX (not selected
-- these are all I have).
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 16719.5 6.2
Gecko: 4.4
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 132474.0 5.5
Gecko: 2.3
Execl Throughput Test 23.7 91.3 3.9
Gecko: 4.3
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 828.0 1.6
Gecko:15.3
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 3850.3 3.3
Gecko: 1.0
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 12.6 3.3
Gecko: 3.2
Now imagine what it would be like if you had a good disk drive and
controller.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: Probs with Seagate & NS = Panic's
Message-ID: <Cs8zyL.8BG@softpac.com.au>
Keywords: seagate, problem,panic
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave THOMAS)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 06:13:33 GMT
We are having problems with Seagate drives, which we now suspect may be
related to the NeXTSTEP operating environment. It seems only to occur with
certain drives, not all. We have checked out different revisions of
firmware, different controllers and are unable to find any problem with
these or the drives, except when we load NeXTSTEP. Is there a known
problem with Seagate Drives? What do the error messages actually mean?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
System Configurtation used:
Machine #4 works without any problems. The other configurations give the
error messages listed below:
Machine 1:
Hard drive ST11200N
AHA 1542CF
32 MB RAM
ATI ULTRA PRO VGA card
DX33 overdrive
Vitex controller card
Machine 2:
Hard drive ST3655
AHA 1542CF
16MB RAM
AI ULTRA pro\\\PRO VGA card
DX 33
Logitech Bus Mouse card
Pro Audio Spectrum
Vitex controller card
Machine 3:
Hard drive ST31200N
AGA1542C
16MB RAM
ATI ULTRA PRO VGA card
DX33
Vitex controller card
Machine 4:
Hard drive ST12550
AHA 1542CFD
32MB
ATI ULTRA PRO VGA card
DX33 overdrive
Vitex controller card
Error Messages:
Panic error occur when booting......
1.panic: (CPU0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
2.panic: Next Mach 3.2 Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root (rebuilder):
mk-149.30.15 obj "2/RC_i386/Release_i386
3.Kernel panic exception (6,3, 1)
When PSCK command is executed the following errors occur:
1.FREE Blk count(s) wrong in SUPERBLK
Salvage ?
2 blks missing in bit maps
Salvage ?
3.UNREF I=96059 owner=root mode=100644 size=3942 MTIME=NOV 3 22:08 1993
Clear ?
Thanks for looking at this,
Rgds dave thomas
Softpac
DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bruce@trwlasd.com (Bruce McKenzie)
Subject: Re: Which laserprinter to buy?
Message-ID: <Cs8tM0.J0H@trwlasd.com>
Sender: bruce@trwlasd.com (Bruce McKenzie)
Organization: TRW
References: <2uubo0$hc4@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 03:56:23 GMT
In article <2uubo0$hc4@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes:
> I think the DEC DECLaser 1152 is the best value around for Postscript.
> It costs $699 direct from DEC. Call them for the specs.
> It has tons of features, like the ability to hook up Mac's or even
> a VAX computer to it, etc..... check it out.
> How many other Postscript printers are out there for under $700 ???
I have a Panasonic KX5400 LED(~Laser) Page Printer. Postscript Level 2.
After rebate, $700, including a spare toner cartridge.
Parallel interface only. I'm having 'fun' connecting it to the NeXT
personality of my PC; it works fine from Windoze. The page description
file is available directly from ftp.adobe.com.
I like it so far.
--
Bruce McKenzie (spuds@netcom.com, NeXTMail welcome)
Atlas Software Ventures, Inc.
PO Box 1299, Santa Clara, CA 95052-1299
800/278-9909 (ASV-9909)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors?
Message-ID: <1994Jul1.054517.25920@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <1994Jun30.212157.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 05:45:17 GMT
In article <1994Jun30.212157.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
>>Has there been any talk from NeXT about supporting multiple processors under
>>NeXTSTEP?
>>
>>
At the "Meet the Engineers" dev talk I believe they said that the SPARC
port would support MP in the first release.
--
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--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64
Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:12:18 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <2v0q62$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <CEDMAN.94Jun30225356@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Carl Edman writes
> In article <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
>
> Here a few comparison values for a 712/60 running HP/UX (not selected
> -- these are all I have).
> Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 132474.0 5.5
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gecko: 2.3
I'm not an expert, but isn't this a very unfair thing to do to a Gecko?
(HP) RISC relies heavily on optimization. Same to SPARC.
-R. J. F. at UNIWUE
------------------------------
"Haha!" rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=)
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Users ?
Message-ID: <Cs9G33.1wF@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <2urt55$pk8@gaia.cc.gatech.edu> <2ut77u$c8l@news1.digex.net> <2uugjn$ntp@oclc.org>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:01:51 GMT
In article <2uugjn$ntp@oclc.org>, Robin Hermance-Moore <rhm@oclc.org> wrote:
>Scott Bender (sbender@harmony.digex.net) wrote:
>: Try something else, or put up with the problems until 3.3
>
>Does this perhaps mean that a SB driver in NS 3.3 was announced at Expo?
>Thanks, Robin (rhm@oclc.org)
Check out the latest Hardware compatibility guide.
SoundBlaster16 EISA,ISA Planned Q3 94
--
Mike Taylor I would rather be alive in a box than dead in
mataylor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca a box, because if you are alive in a box you
mtaylor@alias.com can say `At least I'm not dead'
From: Rick Golla
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS for Intel 3.2 on PS Value Point
Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:26:21 GMT
Organization: IBM
Message-ID: <2uukmd$qff@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
Date: 1 Jul 1994 13:15:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Message-ID: <2v14u1$2p9@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>
References: <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com>
In article <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com
(William Shipley) writes:
> Yes there is. At the "Meet the Engineers" session at the NSExpo, the
> gentleman who does RISC ports stated that the HP disk drivers were so
highly
> optimized that a number of 3rd party hard disks don't work (because they
> advertise features that aren't implemented correctly), and in fact
> he said that NeXT is only certifying HP drives on HPs.
I'm sitting behind an HP 712/80 that shipped with a 1GB Seagate.
-- Dave Riley
-- Computer Science Professor
-- University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
-- La Crosse, WI 54601
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: QIC24 Tape Unit on NeXTStation?
Message-ID: <Cs8F1L.6G@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:41:45 GMT
I wonder if anyone got a QIC24 SCSI Tape Unit functioning with a black NeXT.
The one I have works fine on an SGI but never gets properly recognized at the NeXT.
Any insights?
Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: drd@physics10 (Douglas R. Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on notebooks
Date: 1 Jul 1994 15:08:45 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
Message-ID: <2v1bht$c23@agate.berkeley.edu>
This may be a faq, but I am thinking of getting a notebook
sized machine to run Nextstep on. Does anyone have any
experiences, good or bad, that they would like to share?
E.g., suitable machines, horror stories, warnings that the
whole thing is a bad idea, etc. Also, since these machines
generally do not have SCSI, I will probably have to get it
preloaded with Nextstep from a Next-friendly dealer; any
recommendations for these? Thanks in advance,
Douglas Davidson (drd@physics.berkeley.edu)
From: Rick Golla
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS for Intel 3.2 on PS Value Point
Date: 30 Jun 1994 18:50:50 GMT
Organization: IBM
Message-ID: <2uv46a$258f@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
We just installed NS for Intel 3.2 on an IBM Value Point and can't get the
video display to work in color (works fine in blk/wht).
Is there a known problem/fix to the driver (S3805) for Value Points.
Thanks,
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 10:45:57 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Ai52kZm00WBO02JtNu@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2v0q62$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 1-Jul-94 Re: Benchmark
Results, 90mh.. by Rainer Frohnhoefer:
>> Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 132474.0 5.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I'm not an expert, but isn't this a very unfair thing to do to a Gecko?
> (HP) RISC relies heavily on optimization. Same to SPARC.
This means running Drystone without using the C keyword "register"
before some variable declarations. This tests the compiler's ability to
figure out how to optimize for itself (actually, modern compilers do
better if you don't use the "register" keyword, as the compiler knows
better then the programmer where to put what).
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Subject: NeXT 030 Cube/Quantum ELS170S
Message-ID: <1.47598235.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:55:15 GMT
Has anyone used a Quantum ELS170S hard drive on a cube 030. If so whats the
trick?
It says it formats but when I go to partition it. It says write error. This
drive works
great on a macintosh. Quantum says it should work fine. HELP!!!
Thanks
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 1 Jul 1994 09:55:56 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <2v1eac$i58@u.cc.utah.edu>
References: <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com>
schwett@netcom.com wrote:
: Since there seemed to be some interest, I've (re)posted the
: benchmark results for the following system:
: Micronics 90mhz P54C Motherboard, PCI Bus
: 32 Megabytes DRAM (256kSRAM)
: Diamond Stealth 64PCI w/4MB VRAM
: Adaptec 1542CF
: Fujitsu M2694ESA SCSI-II HD (1GB)
<benchmarks deleted>
: controller. Any suggestions on a good PCI SCSI controller for NeXTStep
: would be appreciated!
: Thanks...
: Mark Schwettmann
: schwett@netcom.com
ASUS SC200 uses the NCR53C810, and is rumored to be compatible with the
Talus driver. I will have one to test RSN, and will report back.
Incidentally, the NCR53C810 is an inexpensive SCSI solution, with
excellent performance. If you can, use this--or get the next generation,
the NCR 53C825, SCSI-2 fast + wide, which Talus should support RSN.
.........................kris
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DX2 vs Gecko
Date: 1 Jul 1994 16:45:53 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <2v1h81$oe@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Summary: how much faster?
I'm looking for a fast machine for NEXTSTEP. Actually, "fast"
to me means "faster than the DECstation 3100 on my desk," and
I think that would make a 486/DX2 "fast." But there's fast, and
there's *FAST*.
I'm considering several configurations, and it would really help
my decision-making to know more about how they compare, performance-
wise. I'm considering the HP 712/60 with 24 MB RAM, as well as
either an eCesys 486/DX2 with 32 MB RAM, or possibly a Pentium
with 24 or 32 MB RAM.
I'm looking for a feeling for just how much faster the Pentium
and the Gecko will be, and will that answer depend on the amount
of RAM? Will the 32 MB on the 486 make up somewhat for its slower
speed? I may be able to buy a used 486 system, so the lower price
is making me think twice about popping for the extra cash for the
Pentium or the Gecko. The question is: just how much performance
do I give up? And would the Gecko be happy with just 24 MB RAM?
Thanks in advance,
David Finton
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: quality of HP monitors
Date: 1 Jul 1994 16:50:10 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <2v1hg2$q6@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
How good are the monitors supplied with the HP 712?
Specifically, I'm looking for a recommendation on
the cheaper of the two HP 17-inch monitors.
If anyone could compare the HP monitor with the
Nanao Flexscan F560i-W, I'd be really interested in
the comparison, since I may have an opportunity to
buy a used Nanao.
Thanks,
David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Building the NXBench reference.
Message-ID: <1994Jul1.170658.24071@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: darcy@hasc.ca
Organization: Hutchison Ave. Soft3ware
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 17:06:58 GMT
Well, now that there's a relative plethora of video solutions
for NEXTSTEP out there, we've now entered the arena of not
knowing what to buy...
I am interested in collecting NXBench scores, summarizing them,
and posting them bi-weekly to .hardware. If you have any
NXBench scores, please foward them to me, along with a
description of what you're benchmarking.
Please participate! I think that actually keeping track of this
information will be helpful to us all, since the DOS/Windows
benchmarks given by the PC rags don't really reflect how well
a machine does with NEXTSTEP video.
Thanks,
- darcy
(darcy@hasc.ca)
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From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS for Intel 3.2 on PS Value Point
Date: 1 Jul 1994 13:50:23 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <2v1l0v$cn8@oclc.org>
References: <2uv46a$258f@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
RickGolla wrote:
: We just installed NS for Intel 3.2 on an IBM Value Point and can't get the
: video display to work in color (works fine in blk/wht).
: Is there a known problem/fix to the driver (S3805) for Value Points.
: Thanks,
Rick,
We have NS/FIP 3.1 up on a ValuePoint - it works OK in either 16-bit color
(800x600) or 8-bit grayscale (1024x768). To get this working, we had
to get the "IBM ValuePoint S3 Driver Update" - I think this fix was
supposedly incorporated into NS/FIP 3.2, but I can't verify that.
While we're kinda on the topic, I wonder if anyone has any info on the
use of IDE drives on the ValuePoints with NS 3.3? (The IDE interface on
the ValuePoints is proprietary, forcing their owners to abandon the IDE
drive and put in a SCSI drive instead.)
At one time, my NeXT tech rep (who's no longer with them, unfortunately)
had told me it looked like this problem might be solved by 3.3 - NeXT was
apparently having some degree of luck in getting IBM to share the specs
for the interface.... Does anyone know if this is going to happen?
(Please oh please oh please oh please)
Thanks, Robin (rhm@oclc.org)
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OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors?
Date: 1 Jul 1994 18:13:44 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
> >> Has there been any talk from NeXT about supporting multiple
> >> processors under NeXTSTEP?
> >>
>
> At the "Meet the Engineers" dev talk I believe they said that
> the SPARC port would support MP in the first release.
And if my memory serves me right (which is something of a gamble),
Canon was expecting to release some object.stations with two
Pentium chips in them. That was also expected in the fall, I
believe, so maybe it's on for NS-3.3.
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From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec))
Message-ID: <9407011642.AA27699@network.cfc.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:42:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete Helme) writes:
> The price for the "development" ObjectStation (100 MHz DX/4, 1 GB HD,
> 32 MB RAM, 2x CD-ROM, NeXT style keyboard & mouse, NeXTStep User &
> Developer) is around $9,500... *not* including the monitor. This is
> straight from Canon.
The price for the "development" configuration of the object.station 41 (without
monitor and without NEXTSTEP) is $6781. This is slightly more expensive than
other DX4 machines with similar components. But, as someone else noted, the
people at Canon are helpful, friendly, and interested in feedback. You also
get a fully integrated machine with fast SCSI, ethernet, sound, and video--no
need to worry about incompatible or incomplete drivers.
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t6882tm@network.cfc.com
NeXTmail welcomed!
From: mtovar@corima.mty.itesm.mx (Martin Tovar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: About Disk Optical....help!!
Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:11:06 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <2v1poa$1huu@campus.mty.itesm.mx>
I have NextCube with Disk optical. anyone know the software
for repair or recover the optical disks?
thanks in advance!!
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From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: STB Pegasus driver
Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:51:13 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2v1s3h$rti@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
What is going on with the STB Pegasus driver for NEXTSTEP? I bought an STB
Pegasus video board SEPTEMBER 1993 for NEXTSTEP on my Intel system. I was
assured by STB technical support that they had already given NeXT some
evaluation boards and that NeXT should have a driver available very soon -
by the end of September.
At the end of September, no driver, but a new Hardware Compatibility Guide
that said Q4 93.
At the end of December '93, no driver, and the 3.2 guide says Q1 94. This was
repeated AGAIN to say Q2 94 at the end of March.
Now, _10 MONTHS LATER_, At NEXTSTEP EXPO, I spoke to Bob Lawton personally
about this who said that they should have a BETA driver available "within the
next few weeks". He then went on to say, very arrogantly, that I should just
keep checking the ftp site at NeXT every day.
Pardon me, but just who does he think he is talking to a customer in this
manner? What about all the lost time where we simply couldn't use the board
for 1600x1200 grayscale for our research project? What about the money paid
for a card with 4 MB VRAM when 2 MB are unused? It's obvious that NeXT really
doesn't have any care about meeting their deadlines or providing any quality
drivers. As far as I know, the newest Hardware Compatibility Guide says Q3 94.
At this point, I don't want an e-mailed apology from Bob Lawton. I don't want
a phone call apology from Steve Jobs. I just want next to RELEASE THE
FUCKING DRIVER!
NeXT needs to understand that they have a responsibility to their customers.
People have to make purchasing decisions based on what information they have,
and we need that information to be reliable.
If NeXT cannot provide quality drivers for Intel hardware, then they should
let 3rd parties provide them.
If NeXT really isn't concerned with its customers, then they should get out of
the business.
Varun Mitroo, MD
From: bagger@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jonathan A Bagger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ADB keyboard for the NeXT
Date: 1 Jul 1994 17:20:12 -0400
Organization: Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
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Summary: I need help remapping the keypad of an Apple ADB keyboard
I have a NeXTStation Turbo, and I am trying to replace the
original keyboard by an Apple Adjustable Keyboard. The
Turbo is supposed to accept an ADB controller, but the Apple
keypad does not work in the same way as the original NeXT
keypad. How can I remap the Apple keypad so that it works
correctly? (Like a VT100 in Terminal.app)
Thanks in advance --
Jon Bagger
From: claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video Signals SVGA <-> RGB
Date: 1 Jul 1994 22:56:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <2v26v3$4uo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I have a 486 NeXTSTEP machine whose video signal
I would like to be able to display on a large RGB
monitor (I am a teacher, and my students can benefit
from seeing the actual text and mouse manipulations
rather than a verbal description alone).
Does anyone know a source (vendor, brand name, etc.)
for converting RGB to SVGA and vice-versa?
--
Will Russell & Frank Jas
c/o Computer Science
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problem with BusLogic BT-445S SCSI Ctrl
Date: 2 Jul 1994 00:08:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association
Message-ID: <2v2b50$nqa@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Anybody out there successfully installed NEXTSTEP
with above mentioned
SCSI controller on a VL-BUS slot? I followed the
direction in the NextAnswer
doc., including getting the right Adaptec1542B driver,
the right BIOS and the
firmware version for the BusLogic controller, but I
am still stuck. I get the message,
": thread: waitforInterrupt: returns -735"
repeatedly on the screen. The NextAnswer doc suggests
typing Control-A from
the boot prompt to set something in the Adaptec SCSISelect
Utility, but the utility
does not get invoked.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Trouble w/NSI 3.2 and Logitech Bus Mouse
Message-ID: <1994Jul1.170744.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 01:07:44 GMT
Background:
----------
We have a Tangent 486 running NSI 3.2, EISA motherboard, etc.
The system _has_ been using a Microsoft Serial Mouse. We need to
use some X-windows applications, so we have installed co-eXist,
which works fine. However, co-eXist is unable to emulate the 3rd
(middle) mouse button on serial mice.
So, we bought a Logitech Bus Mouse, Model #5160, which is
supported on NSI and which others on the net kindly informed me just
plug and play.
I installed the new mouse card and mouse, put JMP1 to IRQ 5 as
described in NeXT Answers 1360, rebooted, and the o/s indicates that
it sees a "PS2Mouse". Is that correct? I sort of thought it was
OK, but...
Problem:
-------
The system boots with no errors. A user can login. The mouse
DOESN'T MOVE! :-( I have to use cmd-keys to get logged out, and the
NeXT version of the 3-finger salute in order to shut the system down
cleanly.
OTOH, if I boot DOS/Windoze, the mouse works just fine, thank
you.
So what am I missing? Is there some re-configuration needed to
tell NSI that we no longer have a serial mouse? Any ideas???
Frustratedly, Ken
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64
In-Reply-To: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de's message of 1 Jul 1994 10:12:18 GMT
To: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jul1090127@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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<2v0q62$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:01:26 GMT
In article <2v0q62$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
Carl Edman writes
> In article <schwettCs8F9w.2DA@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com writes:
>
> Here a few comparison values for a 712/60 running HP/UX (not selected
> -- these are all I have).
> Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 132474.0 5.5
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gecko: 2.3
I'm not an expert, but isn't this a very unfair thing to do to a Gecko?
(HP) RISC relies heavily on optimization. Same to SPARC.
Actually, I'm somewhat puzzled by that specification as well. You can
not write RISC code which doesn't use register variables. I suspect
all this means is that there were no explicit 'register' declarations
in the C code, but they are obsolete anyway so this shouldn't matter.
Carl Edman
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Trouble w/NSI 3.2 and Logitech Bus Mouse
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 2 Jul 1994 00:42:29 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <2v2d5l$llm@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <1994Jul1.170744.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>
fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu wrote:
: Problem:
: -------
: The system boots with no errors. A user can login. The mouse
: DOESN'T MOVE! :-( I have to use cmd-keys to get logged out, and the
: NeXT version of the 3-finger salute in order to shut the system down
: cleanly.
: So what am I missing? Is there some re-configuration needed to
: tell NSI that we no longer have a serial mouse? Any ideas???
You might try looking at NextAnswer 1594.
: Frustratedly, Ken
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: Which MSS sound cards work?
Message-ID: <Cs9Gpn.BM@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
References: <2usa6o$jdm@chopin.udel.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:15:23 GMT
In article <2usa6o$jdm@chopin.udel.edu> greimann@chopin.udel.edu (John B
Greimann) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I was just wondering if anyone has had success under NS 3.2 with
any
> of the various compatible Microsoft Windows Sound System Cards that are
> available? I can post a summary if anyone's interested and there are
enough
> responses.
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Brandon
I'm using Mediatrix's Audiotrix Pro that works really fine under both NS
and DOS/Windows. It also includes Yamaha's OPL4 wich gives a beautiful
sound. The card is not very expensive and was offered at a very low cost.
Jacques GARBI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542C troubles
Message-ID: <Cs9GwM.CD@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
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Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 12:19:34 GMT
In article <Cs2vI0.ACD@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes:
> In article <1994Jun25.173420.4349@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
> > Help!
> >
> > I have a Gateway P5-60 that has an Adaptec 1542C SCSI adapter on it
but I
> cant
> > get NS/FIP up on it.
>
> Is it not true that NS is not certified for the 1542C, but for
> the 1542A or 1542B only?
>
> Sorry if my memory is bogus.
> --
> personal opinions
I have the Gateway P5-90 and a P5-60 with respectively the Adaptec 1542CF
and the Adaptec 1542C and it works perfectly !! Your problem should be
something due to your configuration. Be aware, for instance, that NS
requires that the Adaptec uses IRQ 11 and DMA5. E-mail me your
configuration and I'll try to help you by comparing it to mine.
Jacques GARBI
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors?
Date: 2 Jul 1994 02:33:49 GMT
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In article <1994Jul1.054517.25920@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> At the "Meet the Engineers" dev talk I believe they said that the SPARC
> port would support MP in the first release.
He sure did. He also mentioned that they would try to support Sun's
fast ethernet hardware (100 Mb/s) in the first release as well, in
response to a question I asked about HPs and FDDI support.
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: NeXT Laser printer stopped working
Message-ID: <1994Jun30.193346.408@gamelan.sh.sub.de>
Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas)
Organization: Disorganization
References: <2unso4$dee@alf.uib.no>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:33:46 GMT
This morning a bad thing happend: The original black NeXT laser printer,
connected to a cube, made some strange noise when powered on. It's louder
than usual, something like a motor doesn't achieve the expected speed. A
medium high sound. But that sound isn't the actual problem: When trying
to print, the paper is drawn in about 50% and nothing happens. On the
NeXT console I can see the following message:
np0: VSREQ Timeout
Jun 30 18:58:09 gamelan Server:Local_Printer[321]: Error printing page:
I/O error
And when I open the (still switched on) printer, the printer doesn't get
switched off, the mentioned sound still continues.
The printer is quite new: Still the first toner cartridge. If anybody has
an idea where I can have a look at, would be very nice if you'd tell me
or post it here. Thanks in advance !
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From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Re: [HELP]: Connecting Exabyte to Gateway system and 1542C SCSI controller
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In article <CsIwCr.BL7@eunet.ch> lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) writes:
> You just need to load the SCSI Tape driver in the Config.app (Intel
> world...)
Damn Intel world. I plum forgot about the "load this driver" for anything
you want to do mentality.
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Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
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From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
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Subject: ATI mach64 driver beta testers needed!
Date: 6 Jul 1994 21:33:55 GMT
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Talus is happy to announce the final beta testing of our ATI
Mach64 (PCI) driver. The driver supports 16 bit color up to 1280x1024,
and 32 bit color up to 1120x750 resolutions. We need a few beta testers
at this point. We would prefer people who already have the hardware, but
will supply cards to selected testers at our cost. We (and our resellers)
will be selling the driver by itself, or bundled with the card. If you
are interested in being a tester, please send me a note (dan@talus.com).
Please refer to info@talus.com (also me, but I have to have _some_
organization :-)) for our current information/price sheet or for questions
about our other drivers.
We should have pricing on the driver and bundle tomorrow, as well
as a couple other press releases. Thanks.
Dan Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
(713) 578-1434
fax: (713) 578-1815
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
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Subject: Re: Printing from a network of NeXTs to TekColor printer
Date: 6 Jul 1994 22:47:31 GMT
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fey@flowlab.mbt.washington.edu (Curran Fey) writes:
>We have a local Tektronix Phaser 220i which has an IP and EtherNet
>address. I use the following print command:
> lpr -PTekColor color_test.ps
>This appears to be successful to a point but an lpq call yields:
> phaser: bad queue name (check printcap entry)
> flowlab: Waiting for queue to be enabled on phaser
> Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
> 1st fey 2 color_test.ps 404950 bytes
What name does the printer give the queue? You have to put that
into the printcap on the NeXT. (rp=something) I know that HP
JetDirect cards use "lp" as default, so you might try "rp=lp" in the
printcap.
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: NeXTLaser problems
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Hello world,
after printing a couple of documents, my NeXTlaser starts
printing white or black pages and doesn't stop printing
until I unplock the powercord.
The console-window gives the following message to me
np0: Timeout waiting for Print Complete
Jul 6 22:52:13 muaddib WindowServer[159]: IPCFlushOutput: failed
to flush output for stream 0x2ece78.
So I tried to reboot my next-box but the problem is still alive.
Even the process for printing cannot be killed.
Need advice - Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
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Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
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From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten)
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Subject: Matrox MGA Support
Date: 6 Jul 1994 19:23:51 -0400
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Does anyone know of upcoming or existing Matrox MGA support.
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Brick Eksten
Digital Processing Systems
brick@iac.net
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From: thor@sushi.uib.no
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Subject: WANTED: info on todays NeXTSTEP platforms
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Hi.
It's been a while since I followed up on NeXTSTEPS current hardware
platform offerings and associated software compatibilty. I checked
the FAQa dn NeXTs ftp sever without finding much except Intel info.
Could someone with a summary/opinion e-mail me the currently available
platforms (especially HP, DEC and SUN if possible), the advantages
and disadvantages of each, and how much if any of the NeXT apps will
run without major difficulties.
As a reference, I am currently using (happily) a 040 Cube with 16MB
core and 1GB disk, CD-ROM, NeXTPrinter and ZyXEL fax/modem (SLIP :-)
I use mostly Frame, Diagram2, Dataphile, Virtuoso, Stuart, etc.
Regards,
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NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
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From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
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Subject: Follow up Microsoft Mouse 2.0a trouble and NS_FIP 3.2
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Well, after trying 2 different MS Mouses PS/2 style and having the
pointer move by itself across my screen, I picked up a LOGITECH PS/2 mouse
and the problem disappeared..Hmmmmm
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Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
NeXTmail OK
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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Caddie won't go in CD300?
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In article <2vdc39$e4@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>IS this a common problem?
>
>The caddie won't go in my CD drive without me forcing it and even then it's
>stuck so I don't think forcing it is going to do any good.
What's a CD300 - is that the NeXT CD drive? I've got a problem with mine
anyway, the caddie no longer inserts. You push it in and whereas before it
would suck it in, now it spits it out. Almost as though there was no power,
although the drive is recognized at boot time.
I don't know what to do with it. Bin it I guess.
Dave Griffiths
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From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
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Subject: Re: Viper Pro Drivers?
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:14:34 -0500
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Kristopher Jon Magnusson <kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
>: Anyone know how/if the Viper Pro is going to be supported under NSFIP 3.2?
Talus did not do the Viper Pro?? driver for eCesys(or JCIS). They did
do the eCeWingine driver( and an excellent job, I might add).
We do not use Viper Pro cards.
Marty
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From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
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Subject: Fujitsu disk problems
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While involved in some other serious NeXTstep/Intel
problems, I got a new external HD.
I hooked it to a Adaptec card in an ISA machine
which is running off of an IDE internal drive.
The SCSI card has been used for loading software
from a Sony CD but never for a hard disk.
Well, the automatic initialization and BuildDisk
take this beautiful 1GB disk and reduce it to
9MB. I find I get the same result if I use
disk -i on it manually. But, if I use disk
-i -u, the u option doing something about
ignoring bios limits, I can initialize and get
the full 1GB of disk space. Of course, I
cannot use BuildDisk app and must do a gnutar
transfer of files.
So, the question is - Did I get the wrong disk?
It is a Fujitsu M-2694ES-512_811F bought from
a Macintosh discounter - DirectTech. I put a
notice out on the net awhile ago asking about
this disk and several people responded that it
should work fine.
One thing I do note - this is a SCSI-2 drive.
I have this on a SCSI-1 connection, it seems
with and Adaptec 1542B, as I remember. I
seem to remember someone saying something about
removing a SCSI-2 jumper????
Disktab says something about disk and BuildDisk
automatically sensing drives that support ModeSense.
Is this the problem? - Do I need to change a
jumper setting or something or should I send
the disk back?
Please respond to therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
which will be accessed through a clunky DOS
machine since my Intel GX server is temporarily
down.
Thanks a lot,
Thomas J. Herbert
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From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
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Subject: Re: Viper Pro Drivers?
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The Viper Pro uses the Weitek Power9100 64-bit engine, the same engine in the
JCIS and eCesys machines.
I'm curious as to the differences between JC/eCesys Power9100 implementation
and the Viper Pro, such as RAMDAC, etc. If the JC/eCe implementation is
different substantially from the Viper Pro, this differentiation could be a
very nice thing for NS/I PC buyers.
............................kris
ecesys (ecesys@delphi.com) wrote:
: Kristopher Jon Magnusson <kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
:
: >: Anyone know how/if the Viper Pro is going to be supported under NSFIP 3.2?
:
: Talus did not do the Viper Pro?? driver for eCesys(or JCIS). They did
: do the eCeWingine driver( and an excellent job, I might add).
: We do not use Viper Pro cards.
: Marty
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From: dan@talus.blkbox.com (Dan Kramer)
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Subject: Re: Viper Pro Drivers?
Date: 7 Jul 1994 03:38:58 GMT
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In article <hK2wxna.ecesys@delphi.com> ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> writes:
> Kristopher Jon Magnusson <kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu> writes:
>
> >: Anyone know how/if the Viper Pro is going to be supported under NSFIP
3.2?
>
> Talus did not do the Viper Pro?? driver for eCesys(or JCIS). They did
True enough. Would lots of you guys like one? Say, 50 of you?
> do the eCeWingine driver( and an excellent job, I might add).
Thanks. Or, more appropriately (from the programmers): Spasibo Bol'shoe
> We do not use Viper Pro cards.
> Marty
Dan
Talus I&C Corp.
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From: priem@sthelens.ee.umn.edu (Gregory L. Priem)
Subject: Re: Caddie won't go in CD300?
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In <2vdc39$e4@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
>IS this a common problem?
>The caddie won't go in my CD drive without me forcing it and even then it's
>stuck so I don't think forcing it is going to do any good.
well, it could be that you are having the same problem that i had when i
originally bought my mac. it turns out that there is a little guide-rail-
thingy on the caddy that the metal protective-slide (or whatever it is
called) goes on; there is a little tab on this rail that has to be aligned
with a a similarly-shaped hole on the plastic part of the caddy, or the
slide will not budge, causing the cd-rom drive to not accept the caddy.
what does all this mean to you? well, try a different caddy and see if that
works (i just bought a new one and my problem was solved)..
if this does not help, i have no clue..
greg priem kb0erz
labrat@mermaid.micro.umn.edu priem@everest.ee.umn.edu
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From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
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Subject: Re: Which MSS sound cards work?
Date: 7 Jul 1994 05:15:13 GMT
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In article <2usa6o$jdm@chopin.udel.edu> greimann@chopin.udel.edu (John B
Greimann) writes:
> Hi,
>
>I was just wondering if anyone has had success under NS 3.2 with any
>of the various compatible Microsoft Windows Sound System Cards that are
> available?
I've just recently bought a MediaTrix AudioTrix Pro, which does
WSS emulation, and sounds great in NeXTSTEP. None of the garbage
behavior I had with a borrowed PAS.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
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From: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
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Subject: Internal Disk replacement on '040 Cube
Date: 7 Jul 1994 06:27:58 GMT
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Summary: Difficulty Replacing Internal 040 Cube Drive
I brought my venerable personally-owned NeXT '040 Cube to the Land of
Oz, and wouldn't you know it, the internal drive (a 330-Mb Maxtor) has
started making loud bad bearing noises (might have something to do
with having to operate upside down in this part of the world :-).
Anyway before it dies, I thought I'd replace it with a new boot drive.
First of all, the local NeXT repair place says Bell Atlantic tells him
the list prices for a replacement drive from the US are @#$@% (
obscene and ridiculous price near to what I paid for the whole machine
and nearly 12 times the current cost/MB for SCSI drives of that size).
I'm sure the local import taxes add about 30%, but cannot explain the
rest of the huge cost differential.
The local dealer who supplied all of our white hardware workstations
at the Sydney office gave me a good deal on a Quantuum 540LPS SCSI
drive, the same as the ones we're using on the white hardware. I
cabled it to the cube, and then went through BuildDisk and lots of
copying to get it ready to boot. This was while was connected to the
SCSI chain and NOT booted from it. No worries.
Finally, I removed the old drive from the chain, re-addressed the
Quantuum as drive 0, got the termination right, and tried to reboot.
I can hear the drive seek to the boot block, perhaps read one record
(it's hard to tell by ear), and then the console says:
sc: Failed to complete
(whir, click...)
sc: Failed to complete
.ad nauseum
I can't get past this; changing the address, termination, parity
enables, etc. does not enable booting from this drive. I've even
ensured there was a boot block there with the disk -b command.
The ONLY thing I can see different is that this drive is formatted
with 512-byte sectors and the Maxtor original has 1024. I can't
reformat the Quantuum because
"Your Quantuum drive is low-level formatted at the factory. If
given the low-level-format command, it will immediately return
success status..."
You don't suppose the boot PROM only handles boot records of the
larger size?
An old NeXTAnswers says internal SCSI drives must be procured from
NeXT. Surely not. Surely somebody out there knows the truth.
Please e-mail replies, comments, advice to:
Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
I'll post the results to c.s.n.hardware.
Views expressed are those of the author, not Stratus Computer.
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Senior Consultant Telephone: +61 (2) 954-0655
Asia Pacific Support Center Fax: +61 (2) 954-0741
Stratus Computer Pty Ltd, 99 Walker St. Nth Sydney 2060 NSW Australia
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Senior Consultant Telephone: +61 (2) 954-0655
Asia Pacific Support Center Fax: +61 (2) 954-0741
Stratus Computer Pty Ltd, 99 Walker St. Nth Sydney 2060 NSW Australia
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In article <2va1li$m3e@nntp2.stanford.edu>,
Todd Takken <takken@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>In article <2v9o5u$o85@argo.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy"
>Klingler) writes:
>
>> The minimal configuration on a Gecko requires you to buy a 15" monitor,
>> 260 meg hard drive, and 16 megs of memory.
>
>This isn't the case. Shortly before NextExpo, I received a price quote
>from Igor Klimenko <igor@seanet.com> on an HP 712 with no monitor and no
[crunch]
>> 712/60 H base Cell 1,772.25
>> Memory 32 Mb Set 1,485.00
>> High res. graphics kit (VRAM) 340.00 (enables 1280x1024 res.,
>> but not necessary)
>> Localization kit (mouse included) 89.25
>> HP 3,5" floppy disk drive 106.50
>> Total: 3,793.00
>> For a system with 16MB RAM deduct $790.00
Hmmmmm. The above prices sound kind of strange to me, Todd. I would think
it would be better to go with $3500 for the package, then sell the monitor
and buy memory for more normal prices. The standard HP deal includes all of
the above except the additional 16 megs for $3995 retail, $3500 from my local
dealer, who is usually a little high on everything.
The prices are comparable either way, unless Igor's deal includes NeXTStep
installed. Then he'd have a great deal. And I'd certainly buy one!
Dave
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From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
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Subject: Re: Probs with Seagate & NS = Panic's
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In article <Cs8zyL.8BG@softpac.com.au>,
Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> wrote:
>We are having problems with Seagate drives, which we now suspect may be
>related to the NeXTSTEP operating environment. It seems only to occur with
>certain drives, not all. We have checked out different revisions of
>firmware, different controllers and are unable to find any problem with
>these or the drives, except when we load NeXTSTEP. Is there a known
>problem with Seagate Drives? What do the error messages actually mean?
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>
[ description of 4 machines and error messages ]
I don't know about you, but I would probably open up the machines at
this point and start hooking one questionable drive up at a time to the
machine with the working disk... try to mount them as secondary disks...
depending how important the contents of the disks are, you can either
attempt to fsck them back to life or reformat them. You can use
BuildDisk.app to build a bootable disk again...
As far as I know there's nothing peculiar about Seagate drives and nextstep,
but there may be some things which can have an effect... controllers, etc...
good luck...
-Adam
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: Daydream and the NeXT Laser Printer
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In article <CsIxuM.3Do@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) writes:
>
> I have done all the standard apple things like trying
>
> to choose the Laser Printer (no Icon for NeXT in the
>
> printer panel ). How does one get the laser printer
>
> to work??
>
>
>
> David
>
>
Before you click to -go- from root to reboot for MAC you have to set in
preferences from DAYDREAM.app, there, where you scan the CSI-bus, the
printer to yes. The printer icon should appear in systemfolder of mini7
and should found and selectable from -choose-panel- under apple-icon on
left side.
Manfred
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From: rouand@tnt.oleane.com (Jean-Michel Rouand)
Subject: Re: QIC24 Tape Unit on NeXTStation?
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We used several tape units and it s works.
If you unit is recognized at boot but you have errors messages using the
tar command (tape read error, tape write error), you must change the mode
of the device with this code:
main()
{
int fd, error;
int blocksize = 512;
fd = open("/dev/rst0", O_RDWR, 777);
if (ioctl(fd, MTIOCFIXBLK, &blocksize))
{
perror("ioctl failedn");
return 1;
}
close (fd);
return 0;
}
I think that is what enTar is doing.
Jean-Michel Rouand
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From: m94dwa@albireo.tdb.uu.se (David Wallin)
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Subject: MISSING: One pixel on the screen. Please return it to the owner.
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I have a 486dx2 with a 15" Daewoo-monitor and a mach32 video card and
yesterday I noticed something. In the lower left corner, about 2.8 inches
from that corner one pixel (dot?) is missing! black! Now, what's wrong?
the monitor? my mach32-card? ...or could it be that I'm using NeXTs video
driver?
BTW: I am using 1024x768 16bit color at 60Hz.
I will try and test this myself but I would appreciate any input on this
matter.
thanks,
David Wallin.
m94dwa@student.tdb.uu.se
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Subject: Color Scanner recs
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We currently have an '040 slab with a Abaton Scan 300/GS b&w scsi
scanner.
We'd like to upgrade to a color scanner.
Anyone have any advice or stories about what they use with their
NeXT's now? (or mailorder houses which have great prices on scanners?).
BTW - if it helps, we're using NS 3.0.
Any advice appreciated!
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From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney )
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Subject: Re: SoundBlaster and MSS Drivers
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In article <2vejd5$b91@nef.ens.fr> dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr writes:
>I have a card that claims to be a Microsoft sound system card,
>with a "SoundBlaster" compatibility.
Please name the product, so some of us might not fall in this trap.
>BUT, NextStep says "cannot program CODEC" during boot if I declare
>MSS in Configure...
>Any driver for Sound Blaster, to try ? just in case?
>
>Thanx!
>
>--
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>
> LIENS
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> 75005 Paris FRANCE
Michael
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From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Follow up Microsoft Mouse 2.0a trouble and NS_FIP 3.2
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In article <2vde0e$4q3@eps.com> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
writes:
> Well, after trying 2 different MS Mouses PS/2 style and having the
> pointer move by itself across my screen, I picked up a LOGITECH PS/2
mouse
> and the problem disappeared..Hmmmmm
>
> --
> Steven Kornreich
> Kornreich Communications
> NeXTmail OK
Funny!
Just as the hardware compatibility guide says...
Next did at least ONE thing right!
8-)
Hans
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From: berk@berk.commerce.ubc.ca (Jonathan Berk)
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Subject: hard disk boot failure
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The power went out on my nextstation (200mb hard drive) and when I tried
to power up the system it gave a scsii error. Anyway when I connected and
booted off an external drive, the internal drive was readable and
writeable. I re-initialized the internal drive and rebuilt the disk, but
the system still will not boot off the internal drive. Has anybody come
across this problem or know how to solve it?
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From: mikej@crash.cts.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: help i need a 200 mb hard drive
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From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
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Subject: Re: MISSING: One pixel on the screen. Please return it to the owner.
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David Wallin writes
> I have a 486dx2 with a 15" Daewoo-monitor and a mach32 video card and
> yesterday I noticed something. In the lower left corner, about 2.8
inches
> from that corner one pixel (dot?) is missing! black! Now, what's wrong?
> the monitor? my mach32-card? ...or could it be that I'm using NeXTs
video
> driver?
>
> BTW: I am using 1024x768 16bit color at 60Hz.
>
> I will try and test this myself but I would appreciate any input on
this
> matter.
>
Are you running BackSpace? Are you sure it's black and not the color of
your background or is your background black?
I would say it's BackSpace's hotspot to turn on the screen saver when
hovering over it with the mouse.
:-)
--
Moritz Willers
Institute for Theoretical Physics
Bern, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
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From: mikej@crash.cts.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: help i need a 200 mb hard drive
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From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
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Subject: Anybody tested Gecko 80 MHz?
Date: 7 Jul 1994 19:12:32 GMT
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I'm just curious ... with all this
"Hey I tested a 90MHz-Pentium vs. a 60MHz-Gecko and, you won't believe it, the
Pentium won!!" stuff ....
-Rainer
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From: ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu (Y. MOK)
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Subject: Re: Daydream and the NeXT Laser Printer
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In article <CsKD9L.D7@manki.toppoint.de>, manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes:
|> >
|> >
|> Before you click to -go- from root to reboot for MAC you have to set in
|> preferences from DAYDREAM.app, there, where you scan the CSI-bus, the
|> printer to yes. The printer icon should appear in systemfolder of mini7
|> and should found and selectable from -choose-panel- under apple-icon on
|> left side.
|>
|> Manfred
|>
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Would someone kindly tell me what Daydream is ? Thanks.
Y. Mok
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
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Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep?
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wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes:
>Yes there is. At the "Meet the Engineers" session at the NSExpo, the
>gentleman who does RISC ports stated that the HP disk drivers were so highly
>optimized that a number of 3rd party hard disks don't work (because they
>advertise features that aren't implemented correctly), and in fact
>he said that NeXT is only certifying HP drives on HPs.
I know a friend who runs NS/HP with a DEC DSP3107 without any problems.
I wouldn't believe everything someone tells me. The HP disk drivers in
NS/HP beta are so highly optimized that the disk performance with
HP/UX is twice as high. I hope this may change in the final release.
Of course there are drives that cause problems, but I don't think they
are the majority.
Markus.
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
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nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>A NeXT software engineer in the kernel group spoke at the
>"Meet the Engineers" Expo session (almost too cool a
>session for words), on this subject. He stated that only
>HP approved drives would be certified to work, as the
>NEXTSTEP/HP SCSI driver would, in contrast to the m68k
>code, attempt to negotiate every SCSI2 option
>available, and that might hose some drives.
The funny thing about it is that the extremly expensive offer for a
1 GB SCSI disk from HP for the Gecko ( 4000 DM equaling more than $2000)
said 'SCSI I' - I can just hope that this was a typo!!!
Markus.
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From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
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Subject: Re: 90mhz Pentium vs HP Gecko 712
Date: 7 Jul 1994 19:22:28 GMT
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In article <2vadnl$uh@eps.com> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
> I know NeXTStep is still not officially released yet for HP, but from
what
> people have experienced, is an HP 712 going to be faster than a 90mhz
> Pentium box with a new 64bit PCI video board? WHat I'm looking for is
not
> just becnhmark results, but does it look and feel faster.. Or is that in
> the eye of the beholder!!
>
I found an HP-712/80 running NEXTSTEP to be 2.5 times
faster than a Pentium at 60MHz. This is for a CPU limited
floating point calculation (molecular dynamics simulation).
A 712/60 would therefore be 2.5*(3/4)/(3/2)=1.25 times
faster than a 90MHz Pentium.
As for feel, the HP feels at least as fast as a mono NeXT on the
display, and much faster than anything I've seen in response
time. I have not seen any 90MHz/PCI machines yet, though.
A side-by-side comparison would be great.
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From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
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Subject: Would someone verify for me that I need a NeXT cdrom?
Date: 7 Jul 1994 14:13:42 -0600
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I read as much as I could of the NeXT cdrom threads, but I wanted to make sure
I've got this right.
Will black hardware only understand NeXT cdroms (i.e., OS upgrades) on NeXT
cdrom drives, or are there any other drives that will read NeXT cdroms?
I have a 3.2 upgrade to install, so I have to buy some species of cdrom drive.
Thanks!
Dave
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From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer stopped working
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Thanks to all people who sent me advice how to repair my broken laser
printer.
Now it's working again, even if I don't know why :-)
The strange noise came from the rotating mirror in the laser unit. It was
rotating with high speed even when not printing (just switched on).
I opened the laser unit and fiddled around with the motor parts. I
couldn't find anything strange (but was afraid the motor control chip
might be broken), and finally built everything together again. When
switching on the laser printer again, the strange noise has disappeared.
The mirror was not rotating before printing started as it should be.
Everything prints fine now. I still have 2 left over screws I don't know
where to put them :-)
Anyway, if you play with the laser unit, be careful because the laser
light is not visible but can damage your eyes !
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From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
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Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 7 Jul 1994 20:05:18 GMT
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In article <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
[...]
> HP price list:
>
> 712/60 32/525 (no monitor) == 9143 Canadian (6530 US)
>
> Canon price list:
>
> object.station 32/500 (no monitor) == 4600 US
>
True, but considering that the processor in the HP should
be at least 3 times faster than the 486, even at 100MHz.
Also, HP has quite considerable educational discounts.
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
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Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
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samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>When I called HP and asked them if their hardware works with
>third party monitors, they said "no." Thier list price
>for the 17" monitor is $2,479 Canadian (1,770 US) which
>is expensive. My posting is based on this information.
>If the monitors *do* work properly with the HP hardware, then
>the person I talked to misinformed me.
HP ships the 712 in Germany with standard Sony 17" trinitron screens.
Why shouldn't the Gecko work with different monitors???
They only want to make customers believe that you must buy all
peripherials exclusively from hp at extraordinary prices. It sucks!
I talked to a hp rep at Cebit fair who really tried to convince me
that $2,500 is a reasonable price for a 1 GB disk :-)))
Ha ha, only serious...
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From: dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: HP Mpeg and NEXTSTEP (was Re: Canon object.station advertisement)
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Summary: NOT!
Organization: Delft University of Technology
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In article <1994Jul4.233713.18989@news.media.mit.edu>,
Michael B. Johnson <wave@media.mit.edu> wrote:
>In article <2v9o5u$o85@argo.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>The gecko is a low-cost but well-built and reliable machine. Graphics, sound
>>>and the built-in mpeg work extremely well. The SCSI subsystem is fast. On
>
>Umm, let's nip this one in the bud right now, shall we? The "built-in mpeg"
>consists of a couple of instructions in the PA-RIS 7100 for doing 16 bit moves
>fast. This is to move 16 bit video from the main processor memory on to the
>screen.
>
>It's not clear that NeXT is using this (not saying they they aren't, it just
>didn't sound at Expo like they already had), and since I have yet to see
>a NEXTIME demo on an HP, I think no one here that is able to answer will...
>
They aren't. A NeXT employee at the Expo said they "are figuring out how to
do it". A HP representative, when asked whether there will be MPEG
drivers voor NEXTSTEP said "This depends on NeXT". A bit strange considered
that a team of NeXT and HP engineers are doing the port together...
Dimitri
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From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
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Subject: Fujitsu disk problems
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While involved in some other serious NeXTstep/Intel
problems, I got a new external HD.
I hooked it to a Adaptec card in an ISA machine
which is running off of an IDE internal drive.
The SCSI card has been used for loading software
from a Sony CD but never for a hard disk.
Well, the automatic initialization and BuildDisk
take this beautiful 1GB disk and reduce it to
9MB. I find I get the same result if I use
disk -i on it manually. But, if I use disk
-i -u, the u option doing something about
ignoring bios limits, I can initialize and get
the full 1GB of disk space. Of course, I
cannot use BuildDisk app and must do a gnutar
transfer of files.
So, the question is - Did I get the wrong disk?
It is a Fujitsu M-2694ES-512_811F bought from
a Macintosh discounter - DirectTech. I put a
notice out on the net awhile ago asking about
this disk and several people responded that it
should work fine.
One thing I do note - this is a SCSI-2 drive.
I have this on a SCSI-1 connection, it seems,
and Adaptec 1542B, as best I can remember. I
seem to remember someone saying something about
removing a SCSI-2 jumper????
Disktab says something about disk and BuildDisk
automatically sensing drives that support ModeSense.
Is this the problem? - Do I need to change a
jumper setting or something or should I send
the disk back?
Now that I have built a system on the Fujitsu
disk and have used it to repair and boot my Intel
EISA machine, I will eventually try the initialization
on that setup. But, I would like to get feedback before
I get into rebuilding the disk.
Thanks a lot,
Thomas J. Herbert
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From: davec@fa.disney.com (Dave Coons)
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Subject: Video cards with high speed I/O
Date: 8 Jul 1994 01:53:40 GMT
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We're shopping for a video card for our Gateway P5-90 system
that will drive 1600 x 1200 x 16bits and can accept pixel
data over a private connector at full speed. That is,
we need to transfer an entire frame in one frame time,
sychronized with the video refresh to avoid artifacts.
Candidates include the #9GXE64 Pro and the Matrix MGA
Ultima.
If the available connectors can't handle it, we've heard
a rumor there are devices called "Memory Implantors" that
connect directly to the on board RAM, but we don't know
much more about it.
Any advice?
David Coons
Walt Disney Feature Animation
davec@fa.disney.com
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From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Subject: Help on Accelerator Hard Drive
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I have seen messages about 40meg accelerator hard drives. They are set to
SCSI 6.
I'm a NeXT newbie. I have a NeXT Cube 030. Will it use an accelerator drive.
If so
can I use a 105 insted of a 40. And last but not lest. How do I set it up
with the
NeXTStep 3.0?
Thanks
Mark Pappas
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From: root@net23.com (Operator)
Subject: NoteBook use of NS/FIP
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I have the following notebook. What needs to be upgraded to get NS/FIP 3.2
to work in color at a DECENT speed
NEC VERSA 486/DX25 Active Matrix Color Notebook
Type IV PCMCIA
4 MB RAM
120 MB HD
1.44 MB FLOPPY
Local bus VGA
etc.
mail or post
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From: bjohnson@nevis.verity.com (Brett M. Johnson)
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Subject: Problems installing NS/FIP on large disk
Date: 08 Jul 1994 01:09:05 GMT
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I am trying to install NS/FIP onto the following
configuration:
DELL OmniPlex 590 Pentium system
EISA, PCI bus
32 Mb RAM
onboard ATI Mach32 video
onboard NCR 83C10 SCSI
DEC DSP3210 SCSI hard disk
NEC 3xi SCSI cdrom drive
Talus drivers for SCSI and video
The DEC drive is configured as SCSI ID 0,
and the CDROM drive is configured as SCSI ID 3.
The SCSI bus is properly terminated.
The DEC hard disk has an unformatted capacity of
2.688Gb and a formatted capacity of 2.1Gb.
I partitioned the disk using DOS 6.2 fdisk as follows:
63Mb Primary DOS partition
700Mb Extended DOS partition
1.4Gb free for the NEXTSTEP partition
After booting the NS installation floppy and selecting
the language and SCSI drivers, Mach reboots mounting
the DEC drive as sd0 and the cdrom drive as sd1.
After confirming that I realy want to install NEXTSTEP,
the installation program looks for target drives. It
then complains that there are no devices available to
install NEXTSTEP onto. It says I need a drive with
512 bytes per sector and 120Mb free, then shuts down.
The DEC drive does have 512 byte sectors and 1.4Gb free.
After some investigation, I think the problem may be the
large size of the disk. See NextAnswers #1533 about
the 2.7Gb Seagate drive.
I also tried this with an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI controller
and the new Adaptec driver, and encountered identical
behavior.
I have the following resources at my disposal:
a NeXTstation, NeXTmail, NextAnswers, Internet access
I do not have NEXTSTEP running on any white hardware.
Has anybody seen a problem like this?
Thank you,
Brett Johnson
bjohnson@verity.com
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From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
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Subject: DOS scsi disk mounted on Black
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Hello,
Has anyone used black hardware to make a DOS formatted SCSI disk and
then moved it to an intel machine and mounted the disk?
I am trying to use a external Pinnacle PMO-650 to mount DOS formatted
disks without sucess. And when I try to make a DOS formatted disk I
get
DOS: that type of disk is not supported
Yet when I do a Mac formatted disk I have no problems.. It seems
strange to me that since NS is now on intel that NS can't format DOS
scsi devices (I'm running NS3.2).
Thanks for any info in advance,
Sincerely
Randy Rencsok
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (use this since my dynamic return address
changes continually, sorry working on it)
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From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C McAfee)
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Subject: Re: Would someone verify for me that I need a NeXT cdrom?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 05:35:39 GMT
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In article <2vhnlm$2k3f@argo.unm.edu>,
Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler <klingler@unm.edu> wrote:
>Will black hardware only understand NeXT cdroms (i.e., OS upgrades) on NeXT
>cdrom drives, or are there any other drives that will read NeXT cdroms?
>I have a 3.2 upgrade to install, so I have to buy some species of cdrom drive.
This is a FAQ:
(peripherals)
Subject: M8. What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
A USENET survey summary:
Apple CD-150
PLI 1035N for NeXT
SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a)
NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.)
Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism)
Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers)
Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech
Toshiba 3201
Toshiba 3301
Toshiba 3401
Toshiba TXM3301E1
Toshiba XM-2200A external
DENON DRD-253 external (data only, no music)
HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box)
Texel 3024 (required a firmware upgrade to version was 1.11)
I believe the NeXT CD-ROM is single speed only and is slow;
NEC makes some nice fast drives, might want to check them out.
Chris
mcafee@cs.stanford.edu
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Programming the NuBus
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In article <CsHMoB.FsL@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes:
|
|
| I have a multiboard cube and would like to write a driver
|
| to send message packets accros the NuBus. Is this done in
|
| ROM with ROM routine calls.
|
|
| Where are the docs for the NuBus Interface?
|
| How does one program it??
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| Any Help Appreciated.
|
|
| David
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|
|
Yes, I found NeXTBus Informations containing all the infos you
need on cs.orst.edu.
Nice Greetings from Munich
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The only problem I have is I can not boot off of the drive...
Configuration: '030 Cube, Optical internal factory install, NS2.0,
Microp 1548-15(1.7Gb SCSI-2) drive internal *me* install
replacing the 40Mb internal factory installed swap SCSI(-2?) drive.
What I did:
1) remove 40Mb drive.
2) install 1.7Gb drive, SCSI address 1, using same power and SCSI cable from the
40Mb drive.
3) Boot Cube off of Optical.
4) Login as root.
5) Panel pops telling me that a drive was found that was unreadable,
asked if I wanted to initialize it. Said yes.
No error messages.
6) Ran Builddisk. Everything went fine.
7) No problems accessing drive.
8) Selected Hard drive as default boot device.
9) Logout, power down, power up, boots fine. no problems...
After about 5 to 10 times of booting fine the problem occurs and remains.
The problem:
(The messages are from memory...)
1) Power on.
The system ...
Finds the MICROP 1548-15
Finds the optical drive.
Clears the screen.
Does some stuff, then...
/dev/rsd0a: (something as to it being ok).
/dev/rsd0b: CAN NOT READ: BLK 8
(message about using fsck)
Comes up in single user mode.
2) I can access the drive fine from single user mode.
?????????????
1) Why is it even looking at partition b?
The Initialize panel and Builddisk tool gave not indication of building
partition b.
There is no disk tab entry for this drive.
I tried using sdform with same results.
The drive is supposed to respond to the GET SENSE SCSI command.
2) Does this sound like hardware?
The first drive worked then showed this problem. I sent it back and the
second drive shows the same problem.
I can access the drive fine from single user mode or when I boot off of the
optical drive.
3) Is there a drive size limit, partition size limit?
I am running Nextstep 2.0, the largest drive that the doc's mention is 1.4Gb.
There is no mention about any size limits.
4) How can I see what it is using for disktab entry for this drive?
The system uses the GET SENSE SCSI command to autodetect the parameters.
There is no disktab entry.
Where can I get a disktab entry for this drive for the next?
4) Where can I ftp Next Answers from and would this be in there?
Where else can I find out about installing Hard drive on Unix/Nextstep?
Thanks in advance,
Fred
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Motorola, Inc. Arlington Heights, IL 60004
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From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
Subject: DAT drive recommendation?
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Hi Folks,
I went shopping out of PC World and bought a 1 gig disk for $799, then
read in this newsgroup about a 2 gig disk for $1000. Foo. What do people
recommend I get in the way of a DAT backup drive?
--Cliff
ctm@ardi.com
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: About Disk Optical....help!!
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In article <2v1poa$1huu@campus.mty.itesm.mx> mtovar@corima.mty.itesm.mx (Martin
Tovar) writes:
#
#I have NextCube with Disk optical. anyone know the software
#for repair or recover the optical disks?
#
#thanks in advance!!
What is the exact problem?
Depending on the problem you may be able to get
most of you data if you do a couple of tricks with
the "disk" utility.
Kent
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In article <2vbq6m$pt@search01.news.aol.com> traderdec@aol.com (TraderDec)
writes:
#does anyone know
Since Sun announced support for the PPC in Solaris and
Sun will have Openstep in Solaris, I would guess that eventually
you will have a PPC version of Openstep or Nextstep from either
Sun or NeXT.
This is just my speculation since I don't know a danged thing.
Kent
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Subject: Internal and ISDN modem
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Simple straightforward question...does NEXTSTEP/FIP support the use of an
internal modem in ANY fashion ?
I want to put an Ascend, Combinet, or ISDN*tek internal ISDN modem in a 486 box
and run SLIP over ISDN under NEXTSTEP.
What's the critical path (even all the pieces don't exist - I like to know what
needs to be there for this to happen) ?
--
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From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
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Subject: [NextBook]: NSP NextBook (Sager 9200) report (long)
Date: 8 Jul 1994 12:11:29 GMT
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Got 19 people in 2 days. Ok... here is the full report :-)
Enjoy!
--Roberto
===========================
NextBook 9200 Series Review
===========================
N.B.: this review is for the notebook *running nextstep*.
If you want infos on Windows or the like ... I am sorry I cant help you :-)
Notebook configuration:
* AS TESTED:
486DX4/100Mhz
515Mb removable Hard Disk (IDE on localbus, by IBM)
20 Mb ram
1 Mb Video Ram
central 25mm trackball (connected as PS/2)
full-sized wrist-resting area
easily removable keyboard (two clips, no screws)
PCMCIA IV (one III and one II)
Dual Scan color (LocalBus: *fast*)
Microsoft Sound System on board (so it says on the doc,
and so it runs under windows) featuring microphone, speaker,
(+ micro, speaker and line-in jacks)
2 1800mAh NiMH batteries (useable independently)
Weight: less than 6lbs
Price as tested: 4.600$ + 50$ NS installation + 50$ FedExp shipping
Shipping time: a few days (arrived perfectly in time)
* EXPANDABILITY:
up to 36Mb ram with a ram card (not PCMCIA)
localbus docking station with easy two-buttons flip-in flip-out
hard disk put in a case that can be removed easily by pushing a button
1 Ps/2 port, 1 serial port, 1 parallel port, 1 PCMCIA IV (1 III + 1 II).
GENERAL IMPRESSION: excellent machine, excellent design. Finally a
properly well placed large trackball, with two easily usable buttons
forged in an ergonomic shape. I can use the trackball with my thumbs
without removing the fingers from the keyboard. More lightweight
than anything comparable I tried before (it is less than 6lbs, in
this config!). Very practical batteries: two packs below and on each
side of the central trackball. Each one is a 1800mAh. I go very
easily over 2 hours of work with a moderate use of the floppy disk.
You can work with one while the other is charging, or you can bring a
third one over a long trip for long lasting power.
Due to the 3.3v technology, no noisy fan, and no burning laps!
Under NextStep, the PS/2 trackball performs extremely smoothly.
(I had a serial mouse before ... forget it).
VIDEO: Dual Scan technology. The quality is naturally inferior than the
active matrix but is much better than the monochrome. The quality of
the dual scan is reasonably good, even if there is some shadow effect
if you do not properly set up the contrast and brightness. This is
done in hardware using a special function key that works under
NextSTep too!
The chipset is a Cirrus Logic 6440 with 1Mb Vram and maximum external
resolution of 1024x768x256. If anybody can have a copy of the docs
for writing the driver ... it should be pretty similar to the one for
the 5440 ...! I will also try and see what that driver will give, but
I need an external monitor to test with ... :-)
Under Windows (WHEN the color driver for portables?), colors are
beautiful (640x480x256).
I can survive without an active matrix.
SOUND: WORKS under NextStep with the SoundBlaster 8bit driver you find on
cs.orst.edu
I have my Rooster.snd now :-)
KEYBOARD: Same as on the 8200 series. The feel is reasonable.
All the keys are where they are supposed to be. (Including F1-F12 keys.)
SPEED: General feeling: *fast*. One minute sharp from boot: prompt to
login window up and running. Windows open _fast_ .
* Using the RenderMan package: rendering Elephant.rib is
43 seconds (user+system).
To compare: on a DX2/66, I got a 64 seconds time (user+system).
on my 25Mhz NextStaion, I got 104 seconds (user+system).
Draw your conclusions :-)
To compare on your machine:
cp /NextDeveloper/Examples/RenderMan/Elephant.rib /tmp
cd tmp
/bin/time /usr/prman/prman Elephant.rib
* TeX is _blazingly_ fast: on the full source of my book on
isomorphisms of types (239 pages including graphics ...),
here are the comparative results
with a SS10 with 64Mb ram and a pretty fast SCSI disk
9200 90 real 45 user 2.4 sys (first run)
***too late to try :-( will post romorrow*** (after several runs)
SS10 134.7 real 64.7 user 1.4 sys (first run)
86.7 real 41.4 user 1.2 sys (after several runs:
cache?)
(yes, it is not a mistake... the NextBook is almost *faster*!)
TRACKBALL: EXTREMELY usable. Design similar to the Apple (25 mm). FINALLY.
NOISE: The is floppy drive is *silent*: apart from seeking, you do not
notice it!
HEAT: The only heat spots are the NiMH batteries under charge. There is a
tiny fan that simply is not possible to hear :-) Again, FINALLY.
BATTERY and POWER: NiMH. The battery goes easily above 2 hours. POWER
SAVING IS BUILT IN HARDWARE, so it works under NextStep too!!!
(screen dimming etc...) (I did not try the disk down option yet
...)... The adapter is light and relatively small (almost identical
to Toshiba's). Inputs 90-250 V, 50/60 Hz and outputs 19V/1.8A.
Charge only when the NoteBook is off. But you can get an external
charger for 50$.
SUPPORT: friendly, fast reply. They install NS, even academic.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr>
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75005 Paris FRANCE
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From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley)
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Subject: Re: Anybody tested Gecko 80 MHz?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 13:50:43 GMT
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In article <2vhk30$qhm@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
>
> I'm just curious ... with all this
>
> "Hey I tested a 90MHz-Pentium vs. a 60MHz-Gecko and,
> you won't believe it, the
> Pentium won!!" stuff ....
>
This really isn't as simple as winning or losing. I've run several
benchmarks on an HP 712/80 and a Dell OmniPlex P90. (In the past we've
examined numerous 486 and P60 systems.) My general comments are that the
P90 does about 60% better integer arithmetic and the HP does about 100%
better floating point arithmetic. Dhrystone numbers are very close with a
slight advantage to the Pentium.
The HP disk performance is solid and well-balanced. Seeks, writes,
sequential reads, and random reads all have similar BenchPress scores.
These are as good as the best SCSI systems we've seen, though not
substantially better. The best IDE's have far worse write scores.
The video performance is clearly better on the HP. (Much of video
performance is subjective, but it seems to be roughly double anything else
we've seen on typical BenchPress video tests.) The feel of the interface
is much better, even than a 2-bit NeXTstation. However, remember that HP
is using an 8-bit color recovery system to approximate 24-bit color.
We've not seen the performance of their full 24-bit color board. I should
also mention that the 8-bit color appears to be very nice. I haven't
detected any of the sometimes-ugly dithering patterns that exist in some
other color approximation systems. The color wheel looks as good to my
eyes as on one of our 24-bit video boards. We haven't fully tested the
accuracy of the color recovery, but we're attempting to devise an
experiment or two.
I've been told by HP that the final release of NeXTSTEP will be optimized
beyond the current beta. About all I can conclude from such a comment is
less certainty about the final HP-NeXTSTEP performance.
David D. Riley (Dave)
Computer Science Professor
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
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Subject: Re: DAT drive recommendation?
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 11:06:11 -0400
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Jul-94 DAT drive
recommendation? by Clifford T. Matthews@ard
> Hi Folks,
>
> I went shopping out of PC World and bought a 1 gig disk for $799, then
> read in this newsgroup about a 2 gig disk for $1000. Foo. What do people
> recommend I get in the way of a DAT backup drive?
The 6GB 4mm DAT Exabyte (8200i? --not certain of the model #).
Peripheral Solutions was selling this device w/ case & cable for about
$1000 at Expo.
Exabyte also makes a 2GB version for about $100 less, but it (obviously)
has a third the storage capacity and also has a slower sustained
transfer rate. I'd suggest the better model.
-Chuck
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Request for DAT tape backup recommendations...
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I am currently in the market for a tape backup drive. I am looking for an
internal 2GB (or 4-8GB if compression is supported with SafteyNet) SCSI DAT
drive to be used with a Pentium system with a DPT SCSI controller.
Does anybody have any recommendations, experiences or warnings on any DAT
drives? Vendors and pricing info would be appreciated if available.
Thanks...
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
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Subject: Re: Microp 1548-15 SCSI 1.7Gb hard drive and '030 Cube
Date: 8 Jul 1994 16:55:28 GMT
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In article <2vi52d$77s@delphinium.cig.mot.com> damenf@rtsg.mot.com
(Frederick Damen) writes:
> Microp 1548-15(1.7Gb SCSI-2) drive internal
> 3) Is there a drive size limit, partition size limit?
> I am running Nextstep 2.0, the largest drive that the doc's mention is
> 1.4Gb.
I am running this same drive on an 040 colorstation under NS 3.2 and have
had no problems with it. There is only a drive formatting problem if you
go over 2 GB, and this drive stays under those limits.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger)
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Subject: Exabyte 8505 problems
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st: cmd = 0xa sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x50
st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x0 Sense Code = 0x0
st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x8 Sense Code = 0x0
I get a lot of error messages (see above) when I try to create archives with
an EXABYTE EXB-8505 tape drive. I saw an entry in the NeXTanswers dealing with
a similiar problem. But, nevertheless, when I reconfigure the program for
working with an Exabyte tape drive (using MTIOCINILL), not all options from
the gnutar (and also the tar) command work successfully. Especially appending
files to an existing archive on the tape is not working.
Any ideas whta is going wrong????
Is there any possibility to get an interpretation of the above error codes
which is understandable for human beings??
Here the entry of NeXTanswers I found:
> SCSI quarter-inch cartridge tape drive variable block size
> I/O error
>
> Q: I am trying to connect a quarter-inch SCSI tape drive
> to my system. According to the messages on the console, the
> system recognizes it at bootup. It seems to respond properly
> to the mt rewind command. However, when I try to read from
> it or write to it, it fails with the following message:
>
> tar: tape read error: I/O error
>
> The system console shows an error like the following:
>
> st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H Sense key = 0x5
> Sense Code = 0x0
>
> Can I use this drive or not? What do I need to do?
>
> A: Quarter-inch cartridge tape drives typically transfer
> data in fixed-size blocks. However, the default for the NeXT
> SCSI tape driver is variable block size. If a
> fixed-block-size device receives a command that requests a
> transfer that is not a multiple of its block size, it will
> issue an error. The sense key of "5" in the console error
> message above means that the device received an illegal
> request, in this case a request for a transfer of a size that
> it could not perform.
>
> For programs that allow it (e.g., dd), you can work around
> this by specifying transfers that are a multiple of the
> device's native block size.
>
> For more general use, it is necessary to configure the driver
> for a fixed-block-size device with the MTIOCFIXBLK ioctl
> system call.
>
> Below is a short program that will configure the driver for a
> device that supports transfers of 512-byte blocks. Note that
> the block size and the device file name are hard-coded into
> it. A slightly more intelligent program could read them from
> the command line. >
> The program must run with root permissions. The driver will
> remain configured across login sessions, until it is
> explicitly changed or the machine is rebooted. You can
> configure the driver on bootup by running the program in
> rc.local. To reconfigure the driver for variable-sized
> transfers, use the MTIOCVARBLK ioctl.
>
> See the st man page for more detail.
>
> .....
> program code
> .....
>
> QA762
>
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From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Printing from a network of NeXTs to TekColor printer
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fey@flowlab.mbt.washington.edu (Curran Fey) writes:
> We have a local Tektronix Phaser 220i which has an IP and EtherNet
> address. I use the following print command:
>
> lpr -PTekColor color_test.ps
>
> This appears to be successful to a point but an lpq call yields:
>
> phaser: bad queue name (check printcap entry)
>
> flowlab: Waiting for queue to be enabled on phaser
> Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
> 1st fey 2 color_test.ps 404950 bytes
>
> Does anyone have experience with this printer or this type of
problem?
in your definition of the printer either in printcap or with NetInfo
there is a property called rp which is ignored on some printers but
specifies a print queue on others. You have to consult your manual
what's the valid names of the printer queues are!
Hope this helps
Hans
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From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney )
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Subject: Re: Problems installing NS/FIP on large disk
Date: 8 Jul 1994 17:22:24 GMT
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In article <BJOHNSON.94Jul7180905@nevis.verity.com> bjohnson@nevis.verity.com (Brett M. Johnson) writes:
>
>I am trying to install NS/FIP onto the following
>configuration:
> DELL OmniPlex 590 Pentium system
> EISA, PCI bus
> 32 Mb RAM
> onboard ATI Mach32 video
> onboard NCR 83C10 SCSI
> DEC DSP3210 SCSI hard disk
> NEC 3xi SCSI cdrom drive
> Talus drivers for SCSI and video
>
>The DEC drive is configured as SCSI ID 0,
>and the CDROM drive is configured as SCSI ID 3.
>The SCSI bus is properly terminated.
>
>The DEC hard disk has an unformatted capacity of
>2.688Gb and a formatted capacity of 2.1Gb.
>I partitioned the disk using DOS 6.2 fdisk as follows:
You better DON'T install DOS6.2 if you want to keep a working
bootmanager (which is installed by NeXTSTEP Install Prozess)
Better install DOS 5.x (if you really need DOS:-)
If you loose the bootblock by installing DOS6.2 you won't be able
to boot NS!!
> 63Mb Primary DOS partition
> 700Mb Extended DOS partition
Extended DOS partitions arn't handled by NS. So this might be the
problem, that NS can't find your large partition.
> 1.4Gb free for the NEXTSTEP partition
Install like this:
Boot with NS Installdisk.
When where or how to install NS (whole drive for NS, special DOS-Part.) is
asked, choose the last point, that say that there are additional posibilities.
This calls the NS fdisk. Works very similiar to ms-dos' fdisk.
Don't install Extended Partitions!
You can also ask NS to make a 800MB Partition for DOS. There is an official
DOSfsbatch.pck on ftp.next.com to handle DOS-Partitions larger than 32MB.
Install NS.
After that. Shut down, restart, press 'd' when asked (or the Partitionnumber)
that you reserved for MSDOS.
There should be a message telling, that there is no bootable Media.
Insert the first MS-DOS5.0 Installation Disk and cont. by pressing spacebar..
Install MS-DOS.
Thats it. Like they tell in the Installation Guide...
>
>After booting the NS installation floppy and selecting
>the language and SCSI drivers, Mach reboots mounting
>the DEC drive as sd0 and the cdrom drive as sd1.
>After confirming that I realy want to install NEXTSTEP,
>the installation program looks for target drives. It
>then complains that there are no devices available to
>install NEXTSTEP onto. It says I need a drive with
>512 bytes per sector and 120Mb free, then shuts down.
>
>The DEC drive does have 512 byte sectors and 1.4Gb free.
>After some investigation, I think the problem may be the
>large size of the disk. See NextAnswers #1533 about
>the 2.7Gb Seagate drive.
>
>I also tried this with an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI controller
>and the new Adaptec driver, and encountered identical
>behavior.
>
>I have the following resources at my disposal:
> a NeXTstation, NeXTmail, NextAnswers, Internet access
>
>I do not have NEXTSTEP running on any white hardware.
>
>Has anybody seen a problem like this?
>
>Thank you,
>Brett Johnson
>bjohnson@verity.com
>
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From: hyongsop@lima.eecs.umich.edu (Hyong Sop Shim)
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Subject: PPP (Point-to-Point Protocol)
Date: 8 Jul 1994 21:06:06 GMT
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Hi,
Does any of you what PPP is exactly and where I can find a version
for NeXTSTEP for PCs? I heard that a company called Morning Star
has written a version for NeXTs. Does any of you know how to contact
this company?
Thanks in advance,
--Hyong Shim
(hyongsop@engin.umich.edu)
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Subject: does NSI support ISDN?
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Sorry for the vagueness of the question, but any answers or
explanations would be appreciated.
jpw@virginia.edu
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From: fuad@madrone.ece.ucdavis.edu (Turnando Fuad)
Subject: 715 vs 712
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Does anyone know what's the performance difference between a 712/60 and a
715/50(older model). I am considering a used 715/50 with full one year warranty
for $6000. The system is configured 32M/1G drive and the HP 19inch monitor.
--
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From: jbrierre@telenet.com (Jacques Brierre)
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Subject: Cable between Mac and NeXT/black serial ports?
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would like to try to connect a '040 cube with an 840 AV using a cable
(null modem cable/ crossover cable). Has anyone seen or heard of such a
beast? Please Email response if possible.
Thanks.
Regards,
--
Jacques Brierre
Alcatel Data Networks
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Finally got one of these at work. Very impressive. It feels just as fast
as the C650 I also use at work. So are there any updates, warnings, 'rules of
thumb' I should know about. Aloha.
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From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson)
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Subject: Mux Serial Driver and Multi-Port Boards?
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I have a few questions about the Mux v1.4 Serial Driver.
It states in the documentation that it can be used with multi-port
serial boards like the DigiBoard 4 and 8 port cards. Has anyone tried
this in real world situations? I'm currently specing out a a public
access *nix system and since I'm quite partial to NeXTSTEP, I'd be
thrilled if I could find a multi-port NS solution.
Second, I'm having a bear of a time getting the Mux drivers to work at
speeds > 19200. I'm sure that I've just got a bit of strangeness in my
/etc/ttys or /etc/gettytab files, but for the life of me I can't track my
problem. Could someone with a working configuration be so kind as to
mail me a copy of your working files. I would appreciate it very much.
Thanks for your time,
Grettir
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: How do you tell what your processor speed is?
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Well, our Pentium/66 machines arrived today. I'll be posting
a full roundup, and if everything I'm currently suspecting
about them is true, heads are going to roll.
When I NXBenched this machine I got a dhrystone count of 85k.
This is average for a Pentium/60. I checked the motherboard
manual, and it says that it is a 60MHz board.
I need to verify if the processor is indeed running at 60MHz.
Pulling up the heat sink told me that the chip was a Pentium,
but nothing more.
'hostinfo' tells me I have a 586, and nothing more. Is there
some guru that can tell me what I have to do to figure out my
processor speed?
I'd be much obliged, because if these people sold me a couple
of 60MHz machines when they quoted and charged me for 66Mhz
machines, I will go ballistic.
- darcy
--
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
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In article <2vhn5u$5d@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes:
>In article <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
>(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>[...]
>> HP price list:
>>
>> 712/60 32/525 (no monitor) == 9143 Canadian (6530 US)
>>
>> Canon price list:
>>
>> object.station 32/500 (no monitor) == 4600 US
>>
>
>True, but considering that the processor in the HP should
>be at least 3 times faster than the 486, even at 100MHz.
DX4100 specint=51.4 specfp=26.6
712/60 specint=58.1 specfp=78.5
The HP is only 3 times faster if you're spending your day in floating
point code, which doesn't happen very much. Most work is done with
integer, and here the DX4 is pretty close (the HP is only 1.2 times
as fast, not 3 times).
Given also that the video solution on the Canon is superior to the
HP, there are compelling arguments to choose the Canon. It may not
be for everyone, but it's worth the price and has excellent performance.
>
>Also, HP has quite considerable educational discounts.
Canon is offering volume discounts. As well, the HP and Canon machines
are targetted at the business community, not the edu. community, so
having edu. discounts doesn't matter much now to the "official"
nextstep world.
- db
--
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millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
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In article <next2.773216139@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>
>>When I called HP and asked them if their hardware works with
>>third party monitors, they said "no." Thier list price
>>for the 17" monitor is $2,479 Canadian (1,770 US) which
>>is expensive. My posting is based on this information.
>>If the monitors *do* work properly with the HP hardware, then
>>the person I talked to misinformed me.
>
>HP ships the 712 in Germany with standard Sony 17" trinitron screens.
>Why shouldn't the Gecko work with different monitors???
I am not disputing this, I am only relaying what HP told me. I
do believe you all when you say that it works, and you have them
on your desks, etc. I was *only* relaying what they told me, and
what I was basing the pricing on.
>They only want to make customers believe that you must buy all
>peripherials exclusively from hp at extraordinary prices. It sucks!
>I talked to a hp rep at Cebit fair who really tried to convince me
>that $2,500 is a reasonable price for a 1 GB disk :-)))
The sad thing is that some people don't know better, or won't take
the "risk" of going against the hardware supplier's recommendation.
- db
--
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Viper Pro Drivers?
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In article <2vfs47$52u@hamblin.math.byu.edu> kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) writes:
>The Viper Pro uses the Weitek Power9100 64-bit engine, the same engine in the
>JCIS and eCesys machines.
>
>I'm curious as to the differences between JC/eCesys Power9100 implementation
>and the Viper Pro, such as RAMDAC, etc. If the JC/eCe implementation is
>different substantially from the Viper Pro, this differentiation could be a
>very nice thing for NS/I PC buyers.
The most substantial things would be:
The JC1480/1485's are "flippy" cards. That's VL-bus on one side and PCI on
the other. There are probably differences with the RAMDAC and video memory
speeds (there are differences in the JCIS Shark line itself). At the high
end, the 4mb VRAM JCIS P9100 card uses an IBM RGB 525 200mhz RAMDAC for
1600x1200 at 16bit color at 70hz or 1280x1024 @ 32 bit @ 72hz. JCIS also
wrote the driver. I don't know about the Diamond Viper Pro.
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ly blinding speed. We did demo a
Versa 33 (non E) with 20mb RAM, monochrome, 250mb HD. Performance
was disappointing. The problem is that NEC charges an arm
and a leg for major upgrades. At least you can get the memory
and hard drive from third party vendors for less than half
the price NEC wants. You may be better off selling your
current laptop and buying another.
Also, note that active matrix color screens sold today
are 8 bit screens; even though the Western Digital 90C24A/A2
RocketChip used in most laptops that have VL-bus video chips
is capable of 16 bit color, the LCD panel itself is not.
The result is still pretty decent; a little grainy. At NSX,
the NEC rep said that 16 & 24 bit LCD panels are shipping
already, but we haven't been able to get our hands on one.
Our dealer said that their NEC rep thought this info was still
"secret" and more information (ship date) is not available.
Personally, I'm furious; the main reason I went with the NEC
was the supposed availability of the 16 bit color panel (time
and reliability/support were also factors).
Finally, the Versa's have non-buffered UARTs, so serial port
speed even with the Mux driver is only good for 9.6kbps performance,
with significant data loss at higher speeds. Another
blow is that NEXTSTEP's nmserver doesn't like working over SLIP
w/o a network interface, so Distributed Objects over SLIP w/o
a docking station & ethernet card is impossible at the moment.
Note that the ethernet card doesn't have to be hooked up to anything.
Straight TCP/IP worked fine; matter of fact, it handled the errors
more smoothly than ZMODEM or kermit. I do wonder about NFS
reliability though; I wish it was possible to configure NEXTSTEP
to run NFS over TCP instead of UDP.
Good luck!
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
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From: jimboz@aol.com (Jimbo Z)
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Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
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Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I want
one. I've thought a great deal about it, and the
object.station seems like a good solution (for me,
at least). Nicely integrated, great video, etc -
many of the reasons you would get a workstation
(yes, I know, I know, a 712 is faster, I heard you) -
and without throwing away fun things like the
ability to run Linux. It's just a hobby for me, but
I enjoy it nonetheless. Look - I don't particularly
like PeeCee's any more than the next guy. But it
just seems to me that this is a good opportunity to
have the "best of both worlds," so to speak.
I talked with a Canon rep (who, incidentally, was
extremely helpful AND knowledgable about the
object.station) who said that they would be shipping
at the end of July... right around the corner!
So, this is just my $0.02, but I'm curious - is anybody
else considering purchasing one? What do you all
think, aside from all your speed statistics?
- Jim
wissner@oak.csis.gvsu.edu
JimboZ@aol.com
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From: me@Default.Email.Address
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I was having problems installing NEXTSTEP on a Western Digital 1gig
IDE drive. I tried erasing the entire drive, a 1000mb, partition a 900mb
partition, a 500mb partition, and a 450mb parition with no luck. NeXT
indicated that the problem was the size of the drive. I just ended up
sending the IDE drive back and replaced it with a 1gig SCSI drive.
Installation on the SCSI drive succeeded without any problems.
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Jul-94 715 vs 712 by
Turnando Fuad@madrone.ec
> Does anyone know what's the performance difference between a 712/60 and a
> 715/50(older model).
The 712/60 is roughly twice as fast as the 715/50.
> I am considering a used 715/50 with full one year warranty for $6000. The
> system is configured 32M/1G drive and the HP 19inch monitor.
You should be able to get a 712/60 configured with 32MB RAM/1 GB disk
and a 1280x1024 17" monitor for about $6000; I'd strongly recommend
getting the 712 and not a used 715.
-Chuck
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
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In article <2vm8qm$j8p@search01.news.aol.com> jimboz@aol.com (Jimbo Z)
writes:
> (yes, I know, I know, a 712 is faster, I heard you) -
Does anybody know why Canon didn't just use a Pentium chip in their object
station? The Pentium chip has been out for quite a while now.
-- Todd Takken
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In article <oi61N4i00iUzI11FEM@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 4-Jul-94 Re: DX2 vs Gecko
> by Markus Wenzel@marsu.tyne
> > > do I give up? And would the Gecko be happy with just 24 MB RAM?
> >
> > Definitely: No! Forget anything equipped with less than 32 MB if you
> > want a *FAST* machine. This is true for a 486 or P5 system and
> > inevitable for a HP712.
>
I too belived that the CPU was probably thre biggest single factor to impact
performance; NOT so, I was unable to live with 32 MB RAM (regularly vreating
50MB swap files) and have just moved to 64MB RAM using a DX4 as the
processor. This is fast but still not *FAST* .....
John
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From: pbiron@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Paul Biron)
Subject: HELP!! Crash recovery after power outage!!!
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HELP!!!!
I awoke this morning to a general power outage in my neighborhood.
When power was finally restored I attempted to reboot my NeXT Cube
(040, NeXTOS 2.1) and have what appear to be serious problems with
my disk. I am now booted off of the Release 2.0 floptical.
A fsck(8) of the hard disk gives the following info in Phase 1.
Target 1: MEDIA ERROR: block cleeH retry 1
. . .
. . .
. . .
Target 1: MEDIA ERROR: block cleeH retry 9
sd0 (1.0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11
SCSI Block in error = 49646 Partition a F.S. sector 49486
CANNOT READ: BLK 49480
CONTINUE?
Answering "yes" to this prompt just sends fsck back into a loop
reporting the same media errors.
I've had power outages before (most recently on Jan 17 :-) and this
has not occurred before. What about a power outage (i.e. immediate
shutdown) would cause these media errors and how can I repair my disk?
If it helps, the disk producing the errors is a Maxtor XT-8380S,
340Meg disk.
All help and suggestions *greatly* appreciated!
--
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From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
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Subject: Re: 715 vs 712
Date: 9 Jul 1994 17:50:59 GMT
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Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes
-> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Jul-94 715 vs 712 by
-> Turnando Fuad@madrone.ec
-> > Does anyone know what's the performance difference between a 712/60 and a
-> > 715/50(older model).
->
-> The 712/60 is roughly twice as fast as the 715/50.
->
-> > I am considering a used 715/50 with full one year warranty for $6000. The
-> > system is configured 32M/1G drive and the HP 19inch monitor.
->
-> You should be able to get a 712/60 configured with 32MB RAM/1 GB disk
-> and a 1280x1024 17" monitor for about $6000; I'd strongly recommend
-> getting the 712 and not a used 715.
->
-> -Chuck
->
I'd probably agree, Unless the 715 has the 24bit graphics....
--
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University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: 715 vs 712
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In article <2vmo23$6bb@convex.cc.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward) writes:
>>Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes
>>-> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Jul-94 715 vs 712 by
>>-> Turnando Fuad@madrone.ec
>>-> > Does anyone know what's the performance difference between a 712/60 and a
>>-> > 715/50(older model).
>>->
>>-> The 712/60 is roughly twice as fast as the 715/50.
>>->
>>-> > I am considering a used 715/50 with full one year warranty for $6000. The
>>-> > system is configured 32M/1G drive and the HP 19inch monitor.
>>->
>>-> You should be able to get a 712/60 configured with 32MB RAM/1 GB disk
>>-> and a 1280x1024 17" monitor for about $6000; I'd strongly recommend
>>-> getting the 712 and not a used 715.
>>->
>>-> -Chuck
>>->
>>I'd probably agree, Unless the 715 has the 24bit graphics....
>>
Yea, this is an important point, as NS runs in 8 bit grey on a regular
old CRX (the 8 bit color board in 7x5 machines) and in 24 bit color
on a CRX24 or better. Having finally played with a 712 with "CRT" at
Expo, I have to admit that it's the best 8 bit color I've ever seen,
but for many of us, real 24 bit is a necessity sometimes. The speed
of 24 bit graphics using the CRX24 is very, very snappy.
--
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From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: NeXT can't see CDROM on 486 PC using Future Domain SCSI
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folks,
i've been trying to install NeXT on my 486 PC which has a Future
Domain SCSI interface card. When going thru the NeXT installation,
it turns out that NeXT can't see the CD-ROM (a toshiba drive).
does anyone know how i can get NeXT to see this blasted CD-ROM?
thanx in advance,
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From: pbiron@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Paul Biron)
Subject: SOLUTION: Crash recovery after power outage
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Just this morning I posted the following:
>HELP!!!!
>I awoke this morning to a general power outage in my neighborhood.
>When power was finally restored I attempted to reboot my NeXT Cube
>(040, NeXTOS 2.1) and have what appear to be serious problems with
>my disk. I am now booted off of the Release 2.0 floptical.
>A fsck(8) of the hard disk gives the following info in Phase 1.
> Target 1: MEDIA ERROR: block cleeH retry 1
> . . .
> . . .
> . . .
> Target 1: MEDIA ERROR: block cleeH retry 9
> sd0 (1.0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11
> SCSI Block in error = 49646 Partition a F.S. sector 49486
> CANNOT READ: BLK 49480
> CONTINUE?
>Answering "yes" to this prompt just sends fsck back into a loop
>reporting the same media errors.
>I've had power outages before (most recently on Jan 17 :-) and this
>has not occurred before. What about a power outage (i.e. immediate
>shutdown) would cause these media errors and how can I repair my disk?
>If it helps, the disk producing the errors is a Maxtor XT-8380S,
>340Meg disk.
Thanx to a friend of mine (kravitz@foxtail.com) I am now back
online and all seems well. Thanx Jody!!!!
This post is my attempt to explain what was communicated to me and what
I did to solve the problem.
Chances are that when the power went out my machine was in the
middle of a disk write operation and (at least) one block on the
disk became corrupted.
From the information that fsck(8) [and the SCSI controller] was providing,
I guessed that this was block 49646. The solution is to write an
entire block of 0's starting at this block number.
I used disk(8) [for those non-NeXT readers without disk(8), the following
could be done with a small C program which seeks, reads, seeks, and
writes]. disk(8) has a read command. I verified that this was indeed
the problem block by attempting to read 1024 bytes starting at this
block number, and got 0 bytes back. The I used disk(8)'s write command
to write a block of 0's starting at this block.
I then did a manual fsck(8). In Phase 2 (Check Pathnames), it was
reported that several inodes were UNALLOCATED, each associated with
a specific device file (ttydf{a,b}, cu{a,b}, cuf{a,b} klog and sound)
and I followed fsck(8)'s adivse to REMOVE these files. This leads
me to believe that the block contained inodes for these files.
I then reboot (without sync) into single-user mode. Following the
"examples" in the /dev/MAKEDEV script, I recreated each of these
device files.
I then rebooted in multi-user mode and...all is now well!!
Thanx again Jody!!!
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From: jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr (JP NOVAK)
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Subject: X Server with a NeXTDimension Card
Date: 9 Jul 1994 23:36:21 GMT
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Hello,
Is there any X Server that works correctly with a NeXTDimension
Card and NS3.2 ???
Thanks for any response (and sorry if the answer is on any FAQ .).
bye.
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From: stan@netcom.com (Stanley Perkins)
Subject: Ricoh RO-5030E won't mount disks
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I have been using a Ricoh MO-5030E MO drive on my NeXTstation
for a year or so with no problems. A couple of days ago, while
I was moving some files onto a cartridge in the drive, the
NeXTstation locked up and I got an error message about an
"I/O error" on the Ricoh drive. The drive was unreadable, so I
ejected the cartridge (without any problem) and reinserted it.
The drive flashed its light a few times, as though it were about
to mount the cartridge, then ejected the cartridge. Then I inserted
the cartridge to access the other side, and it was ejected as well.
A second cartridge would mount, but only because the write protect
switch was activated (read-only position). When I put the write
protect switch in the write position, it, too, was ejected. This
is repeatable behavior. I would like to be able to mount the original
cartridge, even if only to reformat it (if necessary). What might
be going on here? Thanks in advance for any help.
Stan (stan@netcom.com)
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From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
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Subject: Re: 715 vs 712
Date: 9 Jul 1994 23:26:40 GMT
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In article <ki7gGeW00WBNA1U4RN@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
|> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Jul-94 715 vs 712 by
|> Turnando Fuad@madrone.ec
|> > Does anyone know what's the performance difference between a 712/60 and a
|> > 715/50(older model).
|>
|> The 712/60 is roughly twice as fast as the 715/50.
No. The 715/50 uses a 50 MHz PA-7100 CPU, whereas the 712/60 uses a 60 MHz
PA-7100LC. Assuming equivalent L1 cache configurations and memory subsystem
performance, the PA-7100 and the PA-7100LC are about equivalent on FP codes
at any given clock speed. The PA-7100LC is slightly faster on integer
because it has less restrictions on what instructions may be issued in
parallel down the two integer pipes. The 7100LC also can perform two 16-bit
operations in parallel using one integer pipeline and one operand/destination
register set, so for codes that can use this it has a substantial advantage.
In general, though, the PA-7100 and the PA-7100LC are pretty closely
matched in performance at any given clock speed.
With regard to the 715/50 and the 712/60, the 712 has a 20% clock speed
advantage. This is somewhat offset, however, by its smaller L1 caches. I'd
expect these systems to perform pretty similarly on FP codes, and I'd expect
the 712/60 to be slightly faster (but nowhere near 2X) on integer. The only
place you could conceivably see a 2X differential is on multimedia codes
optimized to use the PA-7100LC's special instructions.
Might you be confusing the 715/50 with the old 710/50, which used a 50 MHz
PA-RISC 1.1 CPU? That machine would indeed be substantially slower than the
712/60 on both integer and FP codes.
|> > I am considering a used 715/50 with full one year warranty for $6000. The
|> > system is configured 32M/1G drive and the HP 19inch monitor.
|>
|> You should be able to get a 712/60 configured with 32MB RAM/1 GB disk
|> and a 1280x1024 17" monitor for about $6000; I'd strongly recommend
|> getting the 712 and not a used 715.
|>
|> -Chuck
|>
|>
|> Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
|> --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
|> AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
|> NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
|>
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H-P San Diego
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: NXBench Summary 1.0
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Revision 1, Jul 9, 1994
-----------------------------------------------
This is the bi-weekly NXBenchmark posting. NXBench.app is an applica-
tion which allows you to get a decent measurement of the video and
integer performance of a computer running NEXTSTEP. NXFactor uses the
NeXT monochrome 68040 cube as the reference benchmark (1.0).
This document is being maintained by Darcy Brockbank <darcy@hasc.ca>
and will be updated and posted regularly. If you have a machine and/or
configuration not found on this document, please feel free to send me
the results of your NXBench run. Sending in your reports will help us
build a more complete list, and make it more helpful to the community.
This document is sorted by graphics performance. Performance increases
with NXFactor, as you travel down the page.
IMPORTANT NOTE: The graphics performance is dependent on color depth.
The color depth is listed as part of the graphics resolution. 2 and 8
bit are both monochrome, while 16 and 32 bit are both color. In gen-
eral, the more bits your color depth has, the more work your machine
has to do on some of the benchmark tests. While increasing your color
depth results in slower displays, it also gives you more colors to
work with, and so a more pleasing display. Most PC graphics cards can
be configured to use 8, 16 and 32 bit color depths at a variety of
screen dimensions and refresh rates.
NXBench was written by George Fankhauser <george@uptime.ch> and is
available on the archives. This document is formatted with groff and
gtbl, which was written by James Clark <jjc@jclark.com> and is freely
available. Thanks to Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> and Mary
McNabb for writing a way-cool tbl book ``Typesetting Tables on the
UNIX System'' which told me everything I need to know about tbl. I
highly recommend it.
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NXBench 2.0 RESULTS -- Revision 1, Jul 9, 1994
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NeXT (Reference) Hardware
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1120x832/2 35169 0.3723
NC '030 030/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 5941 0.374
NS Color 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/16 25884 0.5778
NS Turbo Color 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/16 35377 0.7852
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1132x820/32 35169 0.8324
NC 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 24732 1.0
NS Turbo 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/2 35335 1.4956
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Intel Hardware
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
the results of your NXBench run. Sending in your reports will help us
build a more complete list, and make it more helpful to the community.
This document is sorted by graphics performance. Performance increases
with NXFactor, as you travel down the page.
IMPORTANT NOTE: The graphics performance is dependent on color depth.
The color depth is listed as part of the graphics resolution. 2 and 8
bit are both monochrome, while 16 and 32 bit are both color. In gen-
eral, the more bits your color depth has, the more work your machine
has to do on some of the benchmark tests. While increasing your color
depth results in slower displays, it also gives you more colors to
work with, and so a more pleasing display. Most PC graphics cards can
be configured to use 8, 16 and 32 bit color depths at a variety of
screen dimensions and refresh rates.
NXBench was written by George Fankhauser <george@uptime.ch> and is
available on the archives. This document is formatted with groff and
gtbl, which was written by James Clark <jjc@jclark.com> and is freely
available. Thanks to Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> and Mary
McNabb for writing a way-cool tbl book ``Typesetting Tables on the
UNIX System'' which told me everything I need to know about tbl. I
highly recommend it.
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NXBench 2.0 RESULTS -- Revision 1, Jul 9, 1994
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NeXT (Reference) Hardware
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1120x832/2 35169 0.3723
NC '030 030/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 5941 0.374
NS Color 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/16 25884 0.5778
NS Turbo Color 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/16 35377 0.7852
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1132x820/32 35169 0.8324
NC 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 24732 1.0
NS Turbo 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/2 35335 1.4956
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Intel Hardware
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Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
DTK (name) 486/50 ATI e 1024x768/16 37037 0.2495
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 55555 0.4394
Clone 486/33 ATI v 1024x768/16 30643 0.4709
Clone 486 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 49916 0.5016
DELL 466/ME 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 53097 0.5272
Royal Super 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 62630 0.6034
Vobis Pent. P-60 Miro8S p 800x600/16 85714 0.6357
Vobis Pent. P-60 ET4k i 1024x768/2 85714 0.6681
G'way 2000 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 55350 0.6694
Epson Prog. 486/50 Wingine 1024x768/16 45248 0.6707
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59171 0.6806
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 63559 0.6829
eCesys 486/66 Wingine 1024x768/16 58374 0.6845
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61475 0.6936
AcerPower 466de 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61728 0.6962
AST Premmia 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 35587 0.7038
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 64516 0.7052
Unisys DT2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768 50761 0.7096
UNISYS U6kDT-2 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 54347 0.7572
Noname 486/66 ATI v 1120x832/16 62111 0.7674
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57581 0.7879
G'way 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 56710 0.7918
Compaq Dskpr 5-60 P-60 ATI e 1024x768/16 82872 0.81
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 59405 0.8112
G'way 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59171 0.8257
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57581 0.8301
DELL 466/ME 486/66 S3 VGA 1024x768/8 54844 0.8344
G'way 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 58365 0.8363
ALR Evolution V P-60 ATI v 1024x768/16 86206 0.8371
DELL 450DE/2 486/50 JAWS 1120x832/16 44510 0.901
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ATI v ??? 86705 0.9985
G'way DX2/66 486/66 Viper v 1280x1024/8 56818 1.0204
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ET4kW32 ??? 84507 1.0238
Noname Pent. P-60 Miro p 1024x768/8 85470 1.0241
Dell Dimnsn XPS P-60 #9 GXE v ??? 81743 1.0407
JCIS Leopard P-60 Wtk9100 p 1152x900/16 85245 1.0923
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 1280x1024/8 63965 1.12
DECpc 466d2 MTE 486/66 ATI 1280x1024/8 62893 1.2204
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1376x1024/16 96463 1.2292
HP Vectra XM 486/66 S3 928 1024x768/8 56390 1.4156
Advanced 2k P-66 Miro 16s 1024x768/16 97323 1.4245
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1152x864/32 96463 1.6325
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millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
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for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
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From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Subject: HELP: Lightning destroyed serial port A
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.94Jul9203757@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
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My modem was plugged in serial port A (everything was powered down)
when a lightning struck a nearby telephone line. My modem is dead (almost)
and serial port A is damaged. The rest of the computer seems to be fine.
I would like to know if there is some kind of breaker that protects the
rest of the motherboard from such things. Any information would be greatly
apreciated.
Since I live in Quebec (Canada) i do not plan to send this in California
for repair. Can I fix this myself? Is there a place that can do this kind of
repairs near Montreal? Any hints? Has this hapened to someone?
Thank you very much,
Francois Magnan
I
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Document got messed up!!!
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millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: NXBench Summary 1.1
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First posted got messed up...
- db
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Revision 1, Jul 9, 1994
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This is the bi-weekly NXBenchmark posting. NXBench.app is an applica-
tion which allows you to get a decent measurement of the video and
integer performance of a computer running NEXTSTEP. NXFactor uses the
NeXT monochrome 68040 cube as the reference benchmark (1.0).
This document is being maintained by Darcy Brockbank <darcy@hasc.ca>
and will be updated and posted regularly. If you have a machine and/or
configuration not found on this document, please feel free to send me
the results of your NXBench run. Sending in your reports will help us
build a more complete list, and make it more helpful to the community.
This document is sorted by graphics performance. Performance increases
with NXFactor, as you travel down the page.
IMPORTANT NOTE: The graphics performance is dependent on color depth.
The color depth is listed as part of the graphics resolution. 2 and 8
bit are both greyscale, while 16 and 32 bit are both color. In gen-
eral, the more bits your color depth has, the more work your machine
has to do on some of the benchmark tests. While increasing your color
depth results in slower displays, it also gives you more colors to
work with, and so a more pleasing display. Most PC graphics cards can
be configured to use 8, 16 and 32 bit color depths at a variety of
screen dimensions and refresh rates.
NXBench was written by George Fankhauser <george@uptime.ch> and is
available on the archives. This document is formatted with groff and
gtbl, which were written by James Clark <jjc@jclark.com> and is freely
available. Thanks to Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> and Mary
McNabb for writing a way-cool tbl book ``Typesetting Tables on the
UNIX System'' which told me everything I need to know about tbl. I
highly recommend it.
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NXBench 2.0 RESULTS -- Revision 1, Jul 9, 1994
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NeXT (Reference) Hardware
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1120x832/2 35169 0.3723
NC '030 030/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 5941 0.374
NS Color 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/16 25884 0.5778
NS Turbo Color 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/16 35377 0.7852
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1132x820/32 35169 0.8324
NC 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 24732 1.0
NS Turbo 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/2 35335 1.4956
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Intel Hardware
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
--------------------+----------+--------------+----------------+-------+--------
DTK (name) 486/50 ATI e 1024x768/16 37037 0.2495
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 55555 0.4394
Clone 486/33 ATI v 1024x768/16 30643 0.4709
Clone 486 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 49916 0.5016
DELL 466/ME 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 53097 0.5272
Royal Super 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 62630 0.6034
Vobis Pent. P-60 Miro8S p 800x600/16 85714 0.6357
Vobis Pent. P-60 ET4k i 1024x768/2 85714 0.6681
Gateway 2000 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 55350 0.6694
Epson Prog. 486/50 Wingine 1024x768/16 45248 0.6707
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59171 0.6806
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 63559 0.6829
eCesys 486/66 Wingine 1024x768/16 58374 0.6845
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61475 0.6936
AcerPower 466de 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61728 0.6962
AST Premmia 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 35587 0.7038
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 64516 0.7052
Unisys DT2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768 50761 0.7096
UNISYS U6kDT-2 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 54347 0.7572
Noname 486/66 ATI v 1120x832/16 62111 0.7674
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57581 0.7879
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 56710 0.7918
Compaq Dskpr 5-60 P-60 ATI e 1024x768/16 82872 0.81
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 59405 0.8112
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59171 0.8257
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57581 0.8301
DELL 466/ME 486/66 S3 VGA 1024x768/8 54844 0.8344
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 58365 0.8363
ALR Evolution V P-60 ATI v 1024x768/16 86206 0.8371
DELL 450DE/2 486/50 JAWS 1120x832/16 44510 0.901
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ATI v ??? 86705 0.9985
Gateway DX2/66 486/66 Viper v 1280x1024/8 56818 1.0204
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ET4kW32 ??? 84507 1.0238
Noname Pent. P-60 Miro p 1024x768/8 85470 1.0241
Dell Dimnsn XPS P-60 #9 GXE v ??? 81743 1.0407
JCIS Leopard P-60 Wtk9100 p 1152x900/16 85245 1.0923
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 1280x1024/8 63965 1.12
DECpc 466d2 MTE 486/66 ATI 1280x1024/8 62893 1.2204
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1376x1024/16 96463 1.2292
HP Vectra XM 486/66 S3 928 1024x768/8 56390 1.4156
Advanced 2k P-66 Miro 16s 1024x768/16 97323 1.4245
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1152x864/32 96463 1.6325
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I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
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From: blindsey@skankinpickle (Ben Lindsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: High Speed Networking......
Date: 7 Jul 1994 19:10:10 GMT
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 715 vs 712
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 23:05:24 -0400
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Jul-94 Re: 715 vs 712 by
Patrick Chase@sdd.hp.com
> With regard to the 715/50 and the 712/60, the 712 has a 20% clock speed
> advantage. This is somewhat offset, however, by its smaller L1 caches. I'd
> expect these systems to perform pretty similarly on FP codes, and I'd
> expect the 712/60 to be slightly faster (but nowhere near 2X) on integer.
> The only place you could conceivably see a 2X differential is on multimedia
> codes optimized to use the PA-7100LC's special instructions.
After observing the 32 MB RAM with 8-bit graphics 715/50 that's been on
my desk for 3+ months versus some similarly equipped (32 MB RAM with
8-bit Color Recovery) 712/60 machines at Expo and other places, the
Geckos seemed much faster.
2 times is an exaggeration, as you say (sorry for any misinformation).
Thanks for catching this, Patrick (but not too many thanks :-). I'd
still much rather have a Gecko then a 715.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
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From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Has anyone gotten a Fujitsu DynaMO 128MB MO drive to work?
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The subject line says it all....
Any info, please post or mail
Thanks,
John
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From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten a Fujitsu DynaMO 128MB MO drive to work?
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 03:31:52 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <pY9xh14.ecesys@delphi.com>
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John Jay Feiler <jjfeiler@relief.com> writes:
>The subject line says it all....
>
>Any info, please post or mail
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
John:
the eCesys Intel machines, we regularly use the DynaMo with
DPT, BuslLocgic 445s, or NCR 53c825 SCSCI controllers.
Marty
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Message-ID: <bchin.773770408@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <2vhn5u$5d@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <1994Jul9.035458.4193@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 16:13:28 GMT
samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>In article <2vhn5u$5d@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes:
>>In article <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
>>(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>>[...]
>>> HP price list:
>>> 712/60 32/525 (no monitor) == 9143 Canadian (6530 US)
>>>
>>> Canon price list:
>>> object.station 32/500 (no monitor) == 4600 US
>>>
>>True, but considering that the processor in the HP should
>>be at least 3 times faster than the 486, even at 100MHz.
>DX4100 specint=51.4 specfp=26.6
>712/60 specint=58.1 specfp=78.5
What machine was the DX4 100 tested in? Does the Canon get 51.4 SPECInts,
or some tricked out Intel prototype? What OS was used to get this
number? I know that the 712/60 get 58.1 SPECInt's using HP's compiler
under HP-UX. Neither of these numbers reflect performance under NEXTSTEP
or even performance of the Canon vs. the 712/60. Reference the Byte
article a few months ago that ran SPEC under SCO on a bunch of Intel based
machines; none got even close to Intel's published scores with many as much
as 20% off.
How about overall performance? Disk I/O, video, etc? How about
combined performance? The Canon uses the BusLogic VL-bus SCSI
controller - VL-bus is not the most efficient for disk I/O, especially
under multitasking load. My point is that we don't have the
tools to really measure performance, nor do we have the actual
released products to perform those non-existent benchmarks on.
I would think that there are a lot more factors like service/support,
SoftPC, actual price, politics, etc. that weigh just as much
or more than benchmarks numbers.
>Given also that the video solution on the Canon is superior to the
>HP, there are compelling arguments to choose the Canon. It may not
>be for everyone, but it's worth the price and has excellent performance.
In what ways is the Canon video superior? Speed? Resolutions? Color?
If speed, what benchmark numbers do you draw this conclusion on? What
rev of the display drivers and OS? I don't believe that the Canon
video solution is "superior" in a broad sense.
On the other hand, I'm just be glad we have these hardware choices. :-)
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: Daydream and the NeXT Laser Printer
Message-ID: <Csq0s5.nC@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
References: <2vhlja$eul@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 10:50:28 GMT
In article <2vhlja$eul@news.service.uci.edu> ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu
(Y. MOK) writes:
> In article <CsKD9L.D7@manki.toppoint.de>,
manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes:
> |> >
> |> >
> |> Before you click to -go- from root to reboot for MAC you have to
set in
> |> preferences from DAYDREAM.app, there, where you scan the CSI-bus,
the
> |> printer to yes. The printer icon should appear in systemfolder of
mini7
> |> and should found and selectable from -choose-panel- under
apple-icon on
> |> left side.
> |>
> |> Manfred
> |>
> |> --
> |> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> |> * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de *
> |> * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
> |> * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
> |> * Germany NeXT-mail welcome *
> |> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Would someone kindly tell me what Daydream is ? Thanks.
>
> Y. Mok
>
DAYDREAM? A hardware-box in size of a pacckage of cigarettes connected
into the dsp-port and you have a MAC after rebooting. Not a
soft-emulated MAC but a real MAC, fast as a highend-Quadra. Its real
great! Price 7-800$ from QUIX@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Quix Computerware
AG, Ebikon,CH,IDP)
Manfred
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* Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de *
* Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
* 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
* Germany NeXT-mail welcome *
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l: manroe@toppoint.de *
* Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
* 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 *
* Germany NeXT-mail welcome *
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: WANTED: NBIC chips
Message-ID: <CsqCtr.G5r@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Will buy NBIC Chips
Keywords: NBIC Buy From You
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 15:10:39 GMT
Will purchase NBIC Chips at a reasonable price.
David Bradford
49 Don Gabriel Way
Orinda, CA 94563
510-376-9060
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: NeXT can't see CDROM on 486 PC using Future Domain SCSI
Message-ID: <CsqIML.250@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <CsoxIo.HFq@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 17:15:57 GMT
In article <CsoxIo.HFq@nntpa.cb.att.com> btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING) writes:
| folks,
|
| i've been trying to install NeXT on my 486 PC which has a Future
| Domain SCSI interface card. When going thru the NeXT installation,
| it turns out that NeXT can't see the CD-ROM (a toshiba drive).
|
| does anyone know how i can get NeXT to see this blasted CD-ROM?
|
| thanx in advance,
| --
| %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
| %% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %%
| %% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %%
| %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
The Future Domain is not supported by NSfIP
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Message-ID: <1994Jul10.194801.21641@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 19:48:01 GMT
In article <bchin.773770408@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>
>>In article <2vhn5u$5d@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes:
>>>In article <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
>
>>DX4100 specint=51.4 specfp=26.6
>>712/60 specint=58.1 specfp=78.5
>
>What machine was the DX4 100 tested in? Does the Canon get 51.4 SPECInts,
>or some tricked out Intel prototype? What OS was used to get this
>number? I know that the 712/60 get 58.1 SPECInt's using HP's compiler
>under HP-UX. Neither of these numbers reflect performance under NEXTSTEP
>or even performance of the Canon vs. the 712/60. Reference the Byte
>article a few months ago that ran SPEC under SCO on a bunch of Intel based
>machines; none got even close to Intel's published scores with many as much
>as 20% off.
>
>How about overall performance? Disk I/O, video, etc? How about
>combined performance? The Canon uses the BusLogic VL-bus SCSI
>controller - VL-bus is not the most efficient for disk I/O, especially
>under multitasking load. My point is that we don't have the
>tools to really measure performance, nor do we have the actual
>released products to perform those non-existent benchmarks on.
I believe that the SPEC benchmarks factor in most if not all of
these things. Your general tack is correct... you have to keep in
mind though that no benchmark will give you the absolute truth
one way or another. However, they (at least) are an attempt to be
as fair about things as possible. I'd rather go with published results
before an unjustified claim of "three times faster." If there are
tests to back up what you said though, I'd like to know about them
because hardware vendors do do their best to make their hardware
look good.
Where did they come from? comp.benchmarks. Here's the scoop:
System CPU ClkMHz Cache SPEC SPEC Info Source
Name Type ext/in Ext+I/D 92Int 92 FP Date Obtained
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Micrnics M4P 80486DX4 33/100 256+16 51.4 26.6 Mar94 comp.arch(Intel)
HP 712/60 PA7100LC 60 64/64+1 58.1 78.5 Jan94 HP
>I would think that there are a lot more factors like service/support,
>SoftPC, actual price, politics, etc. that weigh just as much
>or more than benchmarks numbers.
True. Which gives the lower benchmarked machine an opportunity to
sell on an even footing with the higher benched machine. I'm not
making any other statements then that the Canon looks like a nice
box. People have said it's overpriced: it's not. People have said
it's slow compared to the Gecko: it's not (as far as I can tell!)
Now, the only way we'll know how these two machines perform relative
to each other is to get people who've purchased them to run
SPEC and NXBench tests on the machines. One machine isn't released
yet, and another still has a Beta operating system. So, indeed,
everything at this point is just speculation. The indicators though
are that the Canon will be slower than the Gecko, less expensive
with better (and perhaps faster) video.
Soon we'll have the real scoop.
>>Given also that the video solution on the Canon is superior to the
>>HP, there are compelling arguments to choose the Canon. It may not
>>be for everyone, but it's worth the price and has excellent performance.
>
>In what ways is the Canon video superior? Speed? Resolutions? Color?
Canon Video
-----------
Height: 600 Width:800 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 600 Width:800 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 600 Width:800 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 600 Width:800 Refresh: 76Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 768 Width:1024 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 768 Width:1024 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 768 Width:1024 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 76Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 76Hz ColorSpace: RGB:444/16";
Height: 480 Width: 640 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32;
Height: 480 Width: 640 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32;
Height: 480 Width: 640 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32;
Height: 480 Width: 640 Refresh: 76Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32;
Height: 600 Width: 800 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32;
Height: 600 Width: 800 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32;
Height: 600 Width: 800 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32;
Height: 600 Width: 800 Refresh: 76Hz ColorSpace: RGB:888/32";
Height: 768 Width:1024 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 768 Width:1024 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 768 Width:1024 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 832 Width:1120 Refresh: 76Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 70Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height: 900 Width:1152 Refresh: 76Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height:1024 Width:1280 Refresh: 60Hz ColorSpace: BW:8;
Height:1024 Width:1280 Refresh: 72Hz ColorSpace: BW:8";
This is with 2M VRAM. There is nothing listed for 4M VRAM.
HP Video
--------
1024x768 @ 8bit (24bit color recovery) / ?? Hz.
1280x1024 @ 8bit (24bit color recovery) / ?? Hz.
This favors, in my opinion, the Canon. Some people may be
pleased with the 1280x1024 @ 8bit CR. I want to be able to do
32bit color, and I want to be able to run at 1152x900 (since
1280x1024 is a bit too big for a 17" screen, for me).
>If speed, what benchmark numbers do you draw this conclusion on? What
>rev of the display drivers and OS? I don't believe that the Canon
>video solution is "superior" in a broad sense.
Well, as above, it sure gives you more choice. You can use native NEXTSTEP
resolution, or slightly bigger or slightly smaller. Or "way" bigger.
You can do 16 bit or 32bit. You've got many more options. This is,
to me (maybe not to you) a better solution. It's certainly more
flexible and useful.
As for speed, it's purely subjective. I have no benchmarks for the
machines yet, just the reports of people who came back from the
expo.
>On the other hand, I'm just be glad we have these hardware choices. :-)
Which is the correct answer.
Both machines are excellent, I believe. The Canon due to its Intel
heritage gives you the bonuses of running SoftPC fast, and running DOS/Windows
(which is ever more important to the NEXTSTEP developer) natively. The HP
has the tradition of screamin' HP hardware behind it. It's a compromise
machine, with tradeoffs made to lower the cost a bit. They seem to be
in the same ballpark in terms of performance, with each machine having
its pros and cons. They're in the same ballpark cost wise too. In
the end, it just may come down to which vendor can provide better service,
and both seem to be very good to deal with at this point. I'm very impressed
with both HP and Canon as of late. I'd buy either machine, and may even
get one of each.
- darcy
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Benchmark Correction.
Message-ID: <1994Jul10.200812.22717@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 20:08:12 GMT
The eCesys 486 I tested had it's on-chip cache disabled when
the benchmark was run. The correct NXFactor for the eCesys 486
with the Wingine chip should be 0.87, not 0.63 as stated in the
posting I made.
- db
--
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millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
From: hyongsop@delhi.eecs.umich.edu (Hyong Sop Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell OmniPlex P60
Date: 10 Jul 1994 22:01:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vpr4c$h2e@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Hi,
Does any of you know whether Dell OmniPlex P60, a Pentium machine,
runs NeXTSTEP without a glitch? Dell claims so, but it's not listed
as one of the certified systems by NeXT.
Thanks,
--Hyong Shim
(hyongsop@engin.umich.edu)
From: hyongsop@delhi.eecs.umich.edu (Hyong Sop Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SLIP
Date: 10 Jul 1994 22:06:13 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vprcl$h2e@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Hi,
First, I'd like to thank all of you for your responses
to my earlier post about PPP and Morning Star.
Several of the responses mentioned that I can use SLIP in
place of PPP and that NeXT provides a version of SLIP called,
"transslip," in NeXTSTEP.
Does any of you know about "transslip" (i.e. where I can find it?)
and the difference between SLIP and PPP and whether PPP servers
would support SLIP?
Thanks in advance,
--Hyong Shim
(hyongsop@engin.umich.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gordie@cyclesoft.com (Gordie Freedman)
Subject: Has anyone run NeXTStep on an Austin color Notebook computer?
Message-ID: <1994Jul11.042140.2245@netcom.com>
Sender: gordie@netcom.com
Organization: Cyclesoft Media Works
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 04:21:40 GMT
Has anyone run NeXTStep on an Austin active matrix notebook? I just saw a post
about the NeXTBook, which sounds great. A friend has an Austin, which he runs
Windows on, and it looks like a great machine for the price - so I'm wondering
how it would run NeXTStep.
--
>>> Gordie Freedman -> gordie@cyclesoft.com NeXTMail Yes!
>>> Thou shalt not inline functions more complicated than 20
From: cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Arnaud Scomparin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: 1542CF+NS3.2: AHA Timeout ???
Date: 11 Jul 1994 08:39:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2vr0g9$6vp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I try to install NS3.2 on an adaptec 1542CF card and get the following message:
Resetting SCSI bus
Registering sc0
AHA Timeout
Resetting SCSI bus
..........
I'm using a 1Gb IBM hard drive (1003Mb under fdisk and 1052Mb unformatted
I think....) and a toshiba CD-ROM (id 0 and id 2).
NeXTanswers say the 1542cf doesn't support hard drive > 1Gb.... is this the reason why I
can't run the install process ???
I'm using the old adaptec drivers. Do the new drivers correct
this problem ??
--
Arnaud SCOMPARIN, MIS Consultant for S.C.T. (FRANCE)
Tel:(+33) 20.40.01.90 Fax:(+33) (1) 47.86.14.72
e-mail: cx777@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <nextwave!champ!stan@epas.utoronto.ca>
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:55:48 -0400
From: Stanley Wong <nextwave!champ!stan@epas.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <9407110355.AA02282@champ>
Subject: Buslogic BT445S vs 1542CF
Has anyone tested the BusLogic BT445S VL-Bus SCSI adapter vs the Adaptec
1542CF? I find the the Adaptec reads to be ok, but the writes to be really
slow. Also, the BT445S uses the 1542 update 1 driver, and not a BT445 native
driver, so does this mean that it does not take advantage of the VL bus? Does
it get rid of the DMA business on the ISA bus? ie, would a sound card survive
on ISA with the BT445 in a VL slot?
Thanks for any information.
stan
---
Stanley Wong
epas.utoronto.ca!nextwave.uucp!champ!stan (NeXtMail OK)
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which PCI graphics card?
Date: 11 Jul 1994 08:36:39 -0400
Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Message-ID: <2vrecn$sb4@great-miami.iac.net>
Which PCI graphics cards seem to be working the best? I plan to put
this in a Dell 90mhz Pentium machine.
Brick
--
Brick Eksten
Digital Processing Systems
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From: map+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mark Puskar)
Subject: DEC DSP3210S disk on next
Message-ID: <Css24H.62C.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:14:41 GMT
I'm trying to install a DEC DSP3210S 2.1 gig disk on a next cube running
nextstep 3.0 . I a get seek error when I try to newfs the disk. Will a
2.1 gig disk work on a next cube running 3.0 or am I doing something very
wrong? Thanks.
Mark Puskar
From: sav3@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FDDI cards, ATM? High speed networking?
Date: 11 Jul 1994 13:16:55 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <2vrgo7$4r@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Is anyone networking machines running NeXTStep with anything faster
than 10 MBit speeds? ie: FDDI, ATM, etc. What is out there? (If
anything). What are the plans for 3.3, or later?
I will summarize.
Thanks
******************************************************************************
"it's not music if no one wants to listen to it"
Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, sav3@cunixa.columbia.edu
******************************************************************************
From: traderdec@aol.com (TraderDec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ANy Onnline Spec on Canons Object Station
Date: 11 Jul 1994 10:28:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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looking for info is there any online
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: Lightning destroyed serial port A
Date: 11 Jul 1994 15:30:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vroii$aqj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <MAGNAN.94Jul9203757@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
In comp.sys.next.hardware article
<MAGNAN.94Jul9203757@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA> you wrote:
> Since I live in Quebec (Canada) i do not plan to send this in
California
> for repair. Can I fix this myself? Is there a place that can do this
kind of
> repairs near Montreal? Any hints? Has this hapened to someone?
Serial port A went bad on my Cube (for unknown reasons, but there's
rarely lightning along the northern California coast). NeXT did a CPU
board swap rather than a repair. That's pretty expensive considering what
the cost of repair might actually have been, but I think it will be
difficult to find someone who repairs NeXT CPU boards :-(
Even though there's rarely lightning here, I use an uninterruptible
power supply with my system. It protects against power spikes through
both the A.C. line and the modem line. Most U.P.S.'s don't have modem
line protection, but as the poster found out, it's necessary. Separate
phone line spike protectors are available. Especially for those who live
in areas prone to lightning strikes, a U.P.S. and modem line spike
protector are cheap insurance with the added bonus of providing shutdown
protection when power failures occur.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
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From: charuhas@virtual12.harvard.edu (Thomas Charuhas)
Subject: Help: Adaptec and PAS16 DMA/IRQ Settings
Message-ID: <CssAEt.7qy@das.harvard.edu>
Originator: charuhas@virtual12
Sender: usenet@das.harvard.edu
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 16:13:40 GMT
I apologize if this has already been asked:
I have the following cards in my Intel pentium PC:
Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI card
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card
Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernat card
I have not been able to find a combination of DMA and IRQ channels that
either don't make the kernel panic or get undistorted sound out of the
sound card in NextStep.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thomas Charuhas
charuhas@das.harvard.edu
From: cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu (shem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell OmniPlex P60
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 09:28:17 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
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References: <2vpr4c$h2e@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
In article <2vpr4c$h2e@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, hyongsop@delhi.eecs.umich.edu
(Hyong Sop Shim) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does any of you know whether Dell OmniPlex P60, a Pentium machine,
> runs NeXTSTEP without a glitch? Dell claims so, but it's not listed
> as one of the certified systems by NeXT.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Hyong Shim
> (hyongsop@engin.umich.edu)
i don't know if it runs completely without glitches, but i've seen it run
on a p60 omniplex we have upstairs. looked good to me...
--
cameron hunziker affiliated with no one cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu
Caddy went to Winehouse and wrote a piece of farce.
Blotty words for Dublin.
jj
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From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Video boards for NeXTStep intel. Recommendations?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 15:33:59 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jul11.153359.17288@bilver.oau.org>
I'm getting things together to finally get NeXTSTep running.
I do have a question or two. I posted a query the otherday
about video display board recommendattions.
I love the high-end Miro, but at $800 it's out of my price
range (for the near future at least).
I had thought about the ATI-Ultra Pro on VLB. I was
recommended against that because it is slow.
I also had recommendations of cards from Elsa and JCIS.
However, where do I find these cards. Most of the vendors I
talked to say WHAT WAS THAT.
I have the ordering/pricing from Miro, but the Elsa and JCIS
are strangers to me.
Any pointers to sources, or other recommendations?
(p.s. Thanks to Bill Chin for helping me along this far).
Bill
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: Lightning destroyed serial port A
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:27:24 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <si8M3wq00iUz43G9sL@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2vroii$aqj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Jul-94 Re: HELP:
Lightning destroy.. by Art Isbell@cubicsol.com
> Serial port A went bad on my Cube (for unknown reasons, but there's
> rarely lightning along the northern California coast). NeXT did a CPU
> board swap rather than a repair. That's pretty expensive considering
what > the cost of repair might actually have been, but I think it will
be
> difficult to find someone who repairs NeXT CPU boards :-(
The motherboards are treated as an integral unit; if there is a hardware
fault, the motherboard gets replaced. This is probably cheaper then
paying for the service time required to determine what's fried, replace
it, and then perform careful testing to verify that the board's still
good, since other components may have also been damaged and rendered
unreliable.
(Trying to manually solder and unsolder flat-mounted IC's is no fun at
all...it's tough enough that the service technician has a decent chance
of making a mistake trying.)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 100VG-AnyLAN Card Drivers in Future?!
Message-ID: <1994Jul11.112923.22798@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 11 Jul 94 11:29:23 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
In addition to any of the other faster netowrk protocols/hardware, will HP's
(very cool I might add) 100VG-AnyLAN stuff be supported? I believe they are
coming out with hardware 3rd or 4th quarter of this year.
Will NeXT or someone (Talus) write drivers for these cards? Power users want
to know! :-) 10Mbit is NOT enough.
======================================================================
John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred)
Programmer/Analyst/LAN-WAN Admin slxn8@cc.usu.edu
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
"Life is too important to take seriously."
======================================================================
From: terry@music.uiuc.edu (Brett Terry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2.88 Super Drive not recognized
Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:15:00 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2vs5nk$9lf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
We have a 2.88 MD PLI SuperFloopy External Floppy drive attached to an
040 NeXT cube as SCSI id 6, through a external 2gig external HD as SCSI
id 5. I just installed a new drive mechanism by removing the case (the
administrator prior to me had ordered it) but can not get the machine
to recognize anything when I insert a disk... I am uncertain as to
whether it behaves like a regular disk drive, even though it uses SCSI.
There are no /dev, /etc/fstab entries for it and I presume it does not
need them since I presume the drive did once work on the system as it
is currently configured. Any help would be appreciated.
Brett Terry
Computer Music Project, Univ. of Illinois
bterry@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:42 GMT
Message-ID: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net>
I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and
it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP.
Intel DX4-75 processor with 16KB internal cache and intergrated math
coprocessor.
Expandable to 36 MB RAM
10.4" Color TFT LCD
540 MB Removable hard drive
I would also like to hear about any comments or experiences about running
NeXTSTEP on a notebook...as I am deciding on whether to purchase an Apple
PowerBook 540c, IBM ThinkPad 755c, or NEC Versa 75EC.
-Rob Wilson
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Subject: STB W32P for NEXTSTEP use?
Date: 11 Jul 1994 16:26:50 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <2vs9ua$79p@oclc.org>
I just got a sheet of information on the STB W32P video card from
Gateway 2000's faxback service. This PCI card, based on the Tseng Labs
W32P chip, is what GW2K is shipping with some of their Pentium systems.
The card is listed on this spec sheet as usable with the NEXTSTEP
operating system (although it's listed with Solaris and others as a
"GUI"). The specs are dated 12/93.
I also looked at the latest Hardware Compatibility Guide (6/16/94) from
NeXT, and it says that a Beta driver is currently available for VL-Bus
cards "from several vendors" based upon the Tseng Labs W32I controller.
My questions:
- What's the difference between the W32I controller and the W32P?
- I'm surprised that GW2K is claiming NEXTSTEP support for the PCI
version of this card, when NeXT is only publishing that a VL-Bus
version is supported. Granted, it would make sense for the PCI
version to be supported as well (particularly with the "lots and
lots of new drivers" that are supposed to be a major feature of the
upcoming release 3.3 of NEXTSTEP/Intel). Can anyone confirm that
this card is really being supported?
- I called tech support at STB (figuring the specs quoted probably
originally came from them), but didn't get far. The guy I talked to
told me GW2K that "optimizes" the card for use in their system, so
I'd have to ask GW2K, or maybe NeXT, for more info on what it will
or won't do. Can anyone comment on what these "optimizations" are,
and whether they're likely to hurt compatibility with NEXTSTEP?
- A friend of mine (who's much more into PC hardware than I am) looked
at the spec sheet and noticed that it says the card's video display
buffer is "2MB high speed DRAM". He said he thought NEXTSTEP
doesn't do well with DRAM - that it requires VRAM instead. Comments?
Thanks very much for any info!
Robin (rhm@oclc.org)
--
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OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [NextBook]: NSP NextBook (Sager 9200) report (long)
Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:41:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vsaq9$e8e@tequesta.gate.net>
References: <2vjfph$evu@nef.ens.fr>
I was just paging through the July '94 issue of Computer Shopper and
Sager had a six-page ad:
NP3600- Pentium 60 or 66 w/ choice of Color: Dual Scan or Active Matrix
NP7500- up to 486 DX4-100 " " "
NP600- up to 486 DX4-100 " " "
There is no metion of a 9200 series...
Any ideas?
-Rob Wilson
From: jv@speedy.wg.com (Jorg Vogler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Has anyone tried MEDIATRIX's Sound Card ?
Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:56:02 GMT
Organization: Wandel & Goltermann Technologies
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JV.94Jul11165603@speedy.wg.com>
I'm looking for a good sound card which would be supported
by NS/Intel as well. I heard that the MEDIATRIX soundcard
comes with NS drivers. Has anyone experience with it.
Thanks in advance ...
Joerg (jv@wg.com)
--
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Buslogic BT445S vs 1542CF
Date: 11 Jul 1994 16:01:57 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9407112058.AA01090@hurka>
In article <9407110355.AA02282@champ> Stanley Wong writes:
> Has anyone tested the BusLogic BT445S VL-Bus SCSI adapter
> vs the Adaptec 1542CF? I find the the Adaptec reads to
> be ok, but the writes to be really slow.
Here is the test with DrivePerformance.app, I posted some time ago.
It compares 1542C (note that CF can use 10 MBytes/sec as maximum
synchronous data rate and thus can be faster than C) and BT445S with
NeXT Adaptec driver and our native BT445S driver. There nothing wrong
in write performance.
Basic system: 486DX2/66 & 32 MB RAM & 1.2 GB TOSHIBA MK538FB SCSI-2
Performance with Adaptec 1542C:
write cca 900 kb/sec
read cca 930 kb/sec
overall index: cca. 1.05
Performance with BusLogic BT445S using NeXT's driver:
write cca. 1130 kb/sec
read cca. 1140 kb/sec
overall index: 1.32
Performance with BusLogic BT445S using our BT445S driver with 32-bit
addressing:
write cca. 1260 kb/sec
read: cca. 1240 kb/sec
overall index: 1.45
Note: BT445S was set to synchronous data transfer mode with 10
MBytes/sec as maximum synchronous data rate.
> Also, the BT445S uses the 1542 update 1 driver, and not
> a BT445 native driver, so does this mean that it does
> not take advantage of the VL bus?
It take advantage of the VL-Bus. The only limitation (in speed) of
the Adaptec driver is that it uses ISA specific 24-bit addressing.
This means that BT445S in this Adaptec compatible mode can access via
DMA only lover 16MB of RAM.
> Does it get rid of the DMA business on the ISA bus? ie,
> would a sound card survive on ISA with the BT445 in a VL
> slot?
It theoretically should, but I don't know about any installation,
which will confirm this.
>Thanks for any information.
I hope it helps you.
Best regards,
Tomas Hurka
tom@huktronic.cz NeXTMAIL OK
From: cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu (shem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: soundblaster 16 driver -- no sound
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 14:01:38 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <cameron1-110794140138@transient.uoregon.edu>
i have nexstep running on a dell 100mhz 486. i've installed the latest
driver for the soundblaster 16 (2.0?), but no sound. there are no
conflicts pointed to, and no error messages. - yep, volume is cranked. any
ideas?
--
cameron hunziker affiliated with no one cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu
Caddy went to Winehouse and wrote a piece of farce.
Blotty words for Dublin.
jj
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten a Fujitsu DynaMO 128MB MO drive to work?
Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:42:12 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vs7ak$46c@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <Csp9o2.8J@relief.com>
jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) writes:
> The subject line says it all....
Not to be smart-aleck about it, but the subject doesn't say it
all. *Where* do you want it to work?
> Any info, please post or mail
I had one of these about a year ago, and spent quite a bit of
time trying to get it to work on black (NeXT) hardware. As
near as I can tell, it will not work, and I couldn't find anyone
anywhere who could get it to work on NeXTstations.
While investigating that, I did run into people who said they
could get it to work under NeXTSTEP/Intel. I didn't have an
NS/Intel machine at that point, so that wasn't much use to me.
I ended up selling my DynaMO, and buying a different MO drive.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 100VG-AnyLAN Card Drivers in Future?!
Date: 11 Jul 1994 23:16:07 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <2vsjrn$iil@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <1994Jul11.112923.22798@cc.usu.edu>
We were told at Expo by both NeXT and HP that the (very cool) AnyLan
adapters will not be supported (by them). However, we (who are not in the
3rd Party Software catalog, yet again ;-]) are working with HP to support
these cards. There is a great demand for higher performance network
hardware, which we are more than happy to meet :-). We will attempt to
ship drivers at hardware release, if we can get enough support.
Lots of stuff under way at this point. Expect good things from
Talus during the next couple months (at least!).
Cheers,
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com (no matter what my post says - NIC time delay)
(713) 578-1434
fax: (713) 578-1815
In article <1994Jul11.112923.22798@cc.usu.edu> slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes:
> In addition to any of the other faster netowrk protocols/hardware, will
HP's
> (very cool I might add) 100VG-AnyLAN stuff be supported? I believe they
are
> coming out with hardware 3rd or 4th quarter of this year.
>
> Will NeXT or someone (Talus) write drivers for these cards? Power users
want
> to know! :-) 10Mbit is NOT enough.
>
> ======================================================================
> John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred)
> Programmer/Analyst/LAN-WAN Admin slxn8@cc.usu.edu
> [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
> "Life is too important to take seriously."
> ======================================================================
From: gregan@ids.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help -- printer died
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:30:01 GMT
Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST [telnet ids.net]
Message-ID: <2vso4a$pgj@paperboy.ids.net>
Hello, all -- my printer died a couple of days ago. It doesn't
make any noise or anything, and when I try to print, the dialog
box comes up "(No printers available)". It ways working fine
up to that day. I've heard that there was a problem involving
a fuse, which I couldn't find anywhere I looked. Can anyone
send any information on this problem? Thanks in advance
Greg Arzoomanian
gregan@ids.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: 16MB SIMMS?
Message-ID: <Cst17D.6nq@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:53:01 GMT
On a NeXTStation Turbo Color, will 16MB SIMMS work?
If so, will any type do?
How about mixing two 8MB SIMMS with two 16MB SIMMS for 48MB?
Thanks in advance
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From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which PCI SCSI controller
Date: 11 Jul 1994 22:40:46 -0400
Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Message-ID: <2vsvre$80n@great-miami.iac.net>
Adaptec has a new PCI version of the 1542(?) that they just started
shipping. Does anyone have any experience with this card?
Thanks
--
Brick Eksten
Digital Processing Systems
brick@iac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com>
From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec))
Message-ID: <9407112243.AA22315@network.cfc.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:43:07 -0400
Subject: iLink and i56
The i56 card from iLink is an ISA bus sound card with a 56001DSP chip. It is
advertised to be basically identical to the set up in NeXT hardware so you can
bring over all your DSP code from black to white.
Does anyone have experience with this card? Does music software (e.g. cmix,
csound) work with it? Does Bug56 come with it? Sound Kit is supposed to work
with it just like on NeXT hardware. How about Music Kit?
The MS Sound card seems to be the only "reliable" sound card for the Intel
world using NEXTSTEP. Yet I've heard it not fully working in a JCIS Pentium
machine with PCI/ISA bus. So, I was thinking of getting the i56. (It would be
nice to be able to work with sound at the DSP level again also.) So, I wonder
what success and satisfaction others have had, what software comes with it, and
if there might also be DOS/Windows drivers in case I occasionally boot into
Bill land. Are there better solutions?
---
Timothy Mills fax: (810) 948-3342
work: (810) 948-4959
t6882tm@network.cfc.com
NeXTmail welcomed!
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: FDDI cards, ATM? High speed networking?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 04:58:52 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vt7uc$ekr@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <2vrgo7$4r@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
In article <2vrgo7$4r@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> sav3@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu
(Sean A Varah) writes:
> Is anyone networking machines running NeXTStep with anything faster
> than 10 MBit speeds? ie: FDDI, ATM, etc. What is out there? (If
> anything). What are the plans for 3.3, or later?
This is a bit vague, and based upon a conversation with a NeXT
kernel engineer at the Expo:
NeXT intends to support the fast ethernet hardware on some Suns
for the NEXTSTEP/sparc port.
NeXT intends to support FDDI on HP systems some time after the
first NEXTSTEP/HP port, perhaps the second release.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: dglynn@ncsa.uiuc.edu (David Glynn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 00:15:15
Organization: VSC Software
Message-ID: <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
References: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net>
In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes:
>From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)>Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
>Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:42 GMT
>I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and
>it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP.
>I would also like to hear about any comments or experiences about running
>NeXTSTEP on a notebook...as I am deciding on whether to purchase an Apple
>PowerBook 540c, IBM ThinkPad 755c, or NEC Versa 75EC.
>-Rob Wilson
Buy the Mac. If you are even considering running NeXTStep on a laptop,
please, buy the Mac. It's built for the Mac OS, and while I am sure you can
get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy.
If it was OS/2, or Windows you were shooting for, OK, 755-ho!
But you won't forgive the compromises the display will force you into on the
755 with NS, whereas you will live with what you get from the Mac.
I just don't wanna see someone in 6 months calling that 755 "unacceptable"
because they chose the wrong OS for that machine.... <BG>
DGG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch).
Message-ID: <CstADs.6KD@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
References: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no> <2v6vqi$a6v@runner.uucp> <2vafgd$gst@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:10:39 GMT
sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) writes:
>: : My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about
>: : _impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch
>: : manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either:
>: : a. a new NeXT mouse.
>: : b. a used NeXT mouse
>: : c. a microswitch (the factory one is: 1668RAE D2F-01, made by Omron, Japan)
>: : d. suggestions (maybe other third party mice will work?)
>If you like, you can rip one out of most older Logitech mice. Can't say if
Actually, you can use a Logitech BUS mouse off of a PC directly... no point
in ripping spare switches out. I have a Logitech Bus Mouseman on my non-ADB
black slab and it works wonderfully, and feels much better than the NeXT
mouse anyway.
You'll have to slice off the 9-pin mini-DIN plug that comes with it and
stick an 8-pin one on. I took an Apple Imagewriter cable and cut it in
half. The pinouts have been posted, and I'm not at my console right now,
so mail me if you want the bus mouse pinouts and I'll NeXTmail the .ps
and .rtf versions to ya.
I've been told Amiga and Atari ST rodents and trackballs will work too,
but I know PC _serial_ mice won't.
--
Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@wittenberg.edu
"To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kskaalr1@sol.UVic.CA (Kevin Skaalrud)
Subject: NEXTSTEP, Dell's P90 and 1 gig enhanced IDE
Message-ID: <kskaalr1.773991048@sol>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 12 Jul 94 05:30:48 GMT
I recently became a little worried when I saw a post from someone
who said that NEXTSTEP will not work with the 1 gig enhanced IDE
drive that is in the Dell P90. I am worried because I am only two days
from purchasing this very box. Is it true? Is NEXTSTEP enhanced IDE
challenged?
If anybody is "in the know", I would sure appreciate it.
Thanks,
Kevin.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 16MB SIMMS?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 06:41:37 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vtdv1$t4i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Cst17D.6nq@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <Cst17D.6nq@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
> On a NeXTStation Turbo Color, will 16MB SIMMS work?
Yes
> If so, will any type do?
72 pin, 70 ns or faster. You can use 100ns, but the machine will
compensate by slowing the clock down.
> How about mixing two 8MB SIMMS with two 16MB SIMMS for 48MB?
Probably, but I'm not sure.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Intel] DEC set-up?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 01:58:37 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9407120657.AA10025@hsun22>
Has anybody had any experience with/comments on the following set-up,
which is being considered by colleagues here:
DEC XL-560 [500MB hd, 32MB RAM, 2MB VRAM, ?graphics card?]
+
3Com EtherLink III
+
MediaVision PAS-16
For various reasons DEC seems to be the preferred "box" supplier:
other options for combinations of ethernet and SCSI card and, in
particular, sound card which work well together would be much appreciated
-- as would direct Email replies since I can only get news digests here
(and I only subscribed today!)
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Currently at:
mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp
(no NeXTMail please)
ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs.
2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan
Phone: +81-7749-5-1015 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008
#import "corporateDisclaimer.h"
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops
Date: 12 Jul 1994 09:00:02 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <2vu44i$q6f@oclc.org>
References: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
David Glynn (dglynn@ncsa.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes:
: >I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and
: >it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP.
: ... and while I am sure you can
: get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy.
I wouldn't even go that far - if the laptops use the same screwy
proprietary IDE disk interface as the IBM ValuePoint line, you're in
for trouble. I believe there's a NeXTanswers doc on the IBM VP problem.
Robin
--
Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section
OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: ep-baro@ophelia.tuwien.ac.at (D. Baron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [intel] isa ati ultra -- does it work?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 13:04:41 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <2vu4d9$s2u@news.tuwien.ac.at>
in the hardware compatibility guide it sais that graphic adaptors have
to be VL, but does a ISA ATI ultra work as well?
dieter
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Tseng ET 4000W32 Display Driver - Huh???
Date: 12 Jul 1994 09:18:45 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <2vu57l$qqg@oclc.org>
From today's post to c.s.n.announce:
: This new graphics driver supports display adapters based on the
: Tseng ET4000W32 graphics controller chipset, including the NEC
: Image systems with on-board display adapters with 2MB DRAM and the
: Lightspeed VL adapter by STB Systems with 2MB DRAM.
:
: Caution: The ET4000W32i driver doesn't work with SoftPC
: full-screen mode if there are only 1MB video DRAM on the NEC Image
: systems.
:
: Caution: 1024x768 16-bit non-interlaced modes are not supported by
: ET4000W32p chip on the NEC Image systems. 1024x768 16-bit
: interlaced mode is supported.
:
: Note: The Lightspeed VL card uses ET4000W32p chip, and thus also
: supports 1024x768 16-bit non-interlaced mode.
:
The last two paragraphs seem to contradict each other - the W32p
DOESN'T support 1024x768 16-bit non-interlaced mode on the NECs, and
thus it DOES support this mode on the STB card??? Can someone please
clarify this?
What's the difference between the W32i and the W32p chips anyways?
Thanks, Robin
--
Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section
OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell OmniPlex P60
Date: 12 Jul 1994 13:18:33 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vu57a$8tb@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>
References: <cameron1-110794092818@transient.uoregon.edu>
> In article <2vpr4c$h2e@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, > (Hyong Sop Shim) wrote:
>
> Does any of you know whether Dell OmniPlex P60, a Pentium machine,
> runs NeXTSTEP without a glitch? Dell claims so, but it's not listed
> as one of the certified systems by NeXT.
>
We've used NeXTSTEP on a couple of different OmniPlex platforms of
different clock speeds. The O.S. loads properly and configures easily
once you get the Talus graphics drivers from either Talus or Dell.
However, we have had some video problems that can best be described as
snow. This snow occurs on the right half of the screen, and seems to
depend upon the selected resolution and refresh. It seems to work okay at
1024x768 and around 68Hz. Anything with a higher refresh or resolution, I
consider unusable.
David D. Riley (Dave)
Computer Science Professor
Acting Director of Academic Computing
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
La Crosse, WI 54601
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler)
Subject: CD-ROM setup for Intel
Message-ID: <rbzCsu1AC.G5r@netcom.com>
Summary: What is the cheapest CD-ROM/SCSI setup for Intel
Keywords: CD-ROM Intel SCSI
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:51:48 GMT
I am in the process of buying Intel hardware to run NeXTSTEP on. I am
going to use IDE drives via a VLB IDE card. I need a CD-ROM drive and
a SCSI card to install NeXTSTEP and also use lightly.. Any
recommendations or insights on the cheapest way to do this? What
SCSI card? What CD-ROM?
Any help will be appreciated. I am generally speaking about new hardware
that I can buy today.
Thanks!
<Rodger>
======================================================
Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com
1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884
Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636
======================================================
--
<Rodger>
======================================================
Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com
1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884
Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636
======================================================
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is Tecor still in business?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 15:14:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <2vuc1i$gsn@netnews.upenn.edu>
Does anyone know if Tecor is still in business? I bought a tape drive from
them a year or two ago, and it has now gone skyward. If you have any info,
please let me know. I don't have high hopes.
Thank in advance.
-dave
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pentium 90s, #9GXE64 Pros, and NXBench.
Date: 12 Jul 1994 09:30:51 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <2vucvb$ku@u.cc.utah.edu>
Not a good combination, at least at this time. I'm using a 2 MB
#9GXE64Pro on a Zenon Z-Optimus II Pentium 90 with 16 MBs of RAM and a 512K
cache. I have an NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI card running the Talus driver. Though
NXBench and NWBench reported nearly 80 MIPS and over 125000 dhrystones, I
benched 1.0 under 1024 x 768 @ 8-bit grayscale @ 60 Hz refresh rate.
The video feels slower than a DX33 running an ATI VL-Bus card, what I
would consider the lowest acceptable video performance of a PC running
NEXTSTEP.
Unless the driver gets really good, really fast, this combination is
nearly unusable, at least on my new machine. I may actually swap for a
Diamond Viper PCI, if the driver isn't due to improve. Of course, if that
doesn't solve the problem, it's something other than the driver or card.
I'll know later tonight.
If anyone's curious, I'll reply via email how the Viper turns out.
.................................kris
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried MEDIATRIX's Sound Card ?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 16:09:22 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vuf7i$t3f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <JV.94Jul11165603@speedy.wg.com>
Jorg Vogler (jv@speedy.wg.com) wrote:
: I'm looking for a good sound card which would be supported
: by NS/Intel as well. I heard that the MEDIATRIX soundcard
: comes with NS drivers. Has anyone experience with it.
You heard wrong... It uses the MSS drivers that is built into
NS/fip v3.2 operating system....
and it works really nice... no unintetional techno music
from non-techno soundfiles like the PAS-16
I love the Mediatrix AudioTrix Pro...
and in windows, it's like a Gravis with wave synth and the new
Yamaha OPL-4 chip with Roland compatability....
but I'm no expert.. it just sounds good.....
Gary
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From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Tseng ET 4000W32 Display Driver - Huh???
Date: 12 Jul 1994 16:11:59 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <2vufcf$t3f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2vu57l$qqg@oclc.org>
: : Caution: 1024x768 16-bit non-interlaced modes are not supported by
: : ET4000W32p chip on the NEC Image systems. 1024x768 16-bit
: : interlaced mode is supported.
: :
: : Note: The Lightspeed VL card uses ET4000W32p chip, and thus also
: : supports 1024x768 16-bit non-interlaced mode.
: :
: The last two paragraphs seem to contradict each other - the W32p
: DOESN'T support 1024x768 16-bit non-interlaced mode on the NECs, and
: thus it DOES support this mode on the STB card??? Can someone please
: clarify this?
: What's the difference between the W32i and the W32p chips anyways?
w32p is the PCI card.......
w32i is a VLB card...
there is a w32 VLB card too, with 1 meg.
the w32i can support 2 megs of DRAM.....
Gary
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From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: which PCI video card
Date: 12 Jul 1994 16:47:21 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <2vuhep$egm@network.ucsd.edu>
Which is the best and cheapest PCI video card (Number Nine, Miro, Elsa
2000, Matrox MGA, Diamond) for 1280x1024x16 bit with at least 75 Hz (NI)
refresh rate? Will summarize.
jk
From: jtrimble@jpljpt.jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 16:38:40 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <2vugug$s17@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
References: <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Might the addition of 8-bit color for notebooks in NS 3.3 make it a better
choice for the Thinkpadd 755c?
In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)
writes:
>From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)>Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
>Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:42 GMT
>I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and
>it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP.
>I would also like to hear about any comments or experiences about running
>NeXTSTEP on a notebook...as I am deciding on whether to purchase an Apple
>PowerBook 540c, IBM ThinkPad 755c, or NEC Versa 75EC.
>-Rob Wilson
Buy the Mac. If you are even considering running NeXTStep on a laptop,
please, buy the Mac. It's built for the Mac OS, and while I am sure you
can
get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy.
If it was OS/2, or Windows you were shooting for, OK, 755-ho!
But you won't forgive the compromises the display will force you into on
the
755 with NS, whereas you will live with what you get from the Mac.
I just don't wanna see someone in 6 months calling that 755 "unacceptable"
because they chose the wrong OS for that machine.... <BG>
DGG
From: jtrimble@jpljpt.jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 16:38:48 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <2vuguo$s18@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
References: <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Might the addition of 8-bit color for notebooks in NS 3.3 make it a better
choice for the Thinkpadd 755c?
In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)
writes:
>From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)>Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
>Date: 11 Jul 1994 19:52:42 GMT
>I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and
>it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP.
>I would also like to hear about any comments or experiences about running
>NeXTSTEP on a notebook...as I am deciding on whether to purchase an Apple
>PowerBook 540c, IBM ThinkPad 755c, or NEC Versa 75EC.
>-Rob Wilson
Buy the Mac. If you are even considering running NeXTStep on a laptop,
please, buy the Mac. It's built for the Mac OS, and while I am sure you
can
get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy.
If it was OS/2, or Windows you were shooting for, OK, 755-ho!
But you won't forgive the compromises the display will force you into on
the
755 with NS, whereas you will live with what you get from the Mac.
I just don't wanna see someone in 6 months calling that 755 "unacceptable"
because they chose the wrong OS for that machine.... <BG>
DGG
From: pja@attfield.ott.hookup.net (Phil Attfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: DOS scsi disk mounted on Black
Date: 12 Jul 1994 17:13:01 GMT
Organization: 42
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2vuiut$jla@nic.ott.hookup.net>
References: <2vio7e$123e@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
In article <2vio7e$123e@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu writes:
|> Hello,
|>
|> Has anyone used black hardware to make a DOS formatted SCSI disk and
|> then moved it to an intel machine and mounted the disk?
|>
I ran into similar problems with an IOMEGA Bernoulli (150M) disk. The 3.2
release notes claim that DOS format hard-disks are supported but this
appears not to be the case.
In order to read/write the SCSI/DOS format drive I had to resort to
mtools (not pretty; but at least functional). Initially mtools did not
work either; I found that the partition table had to be skipped in
order for mtools to initialize properly. I am not sure what size (fixed/variable)
DOS partition tables usually occupy but in this case it was 16384 bytes.
I suspect that the DOS filesystem module doesn't know how to deal
with partition tables and chokes when it doesn't find a file system at
the beginning of the disk. With the 16384 offset in place mtools works
satisfactorily... a mounted filesystem would be nicer though. FYI: the
"h" partition of the raw device seems to be the only partition that works
properly.
Can anyone confirm the partition table size - does 3.2 understand this ??
-Phil
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"why, when the trash is emptied on a Macintosh does the
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From: thorton@pts.mot.com
Subject: [Q] Fujitsu M2694 drive capacity
Message-ID: <Csu13C.CvK@pts.mot.com>
Sender: news@pts.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:47:36 GMT
I'm looking to replace a dead 660 Mb drive in a cube, and I've heard
conflicting things about the capacity of a Fujitsu M2694 ESA drive. Some
say it's a 1.2 Gb, and others say it's really just 1 Gb. Can anyone who
actually has this drive formatted under NeXTSTEP tell me what they get at
the end? Thanks.
Tom
P.S. I'm comparing this drive to other drives about the same price or
lower that claim to be 1 Gb formatted. Suggestions welcome.
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From: dmwood@geek.Mines.Colorado.EDU (David M. Wood)
Subject: Options on dead(?) NeXTStation internal Seagate 406 disk
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1994Jul12.194146.26609@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 19:41:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
My Seagate 406 Mb internal NeXTStation drive (one of the high-pitched
whiner series from 3 or 4 years ago) ceased spinning sometime yesterday,
and is no longer visible on the SCSI bus. This is the default boot device
and the / partition of my file system. The slab fan runs fine and a power
on yields, after the usual monitor messages,
Starting Extended Self Test
Extended SCSI Test
System test passed
then
..
boot sd(0,0,0)- nbu=96
no SCSI disk
The SCSI bus appears just fine: I can boot off the customary floppy/CD-ROM
combo, and if I power on external devices first and power on,
sd0 now becomes a device (CD-ROM) with target number 2, and an
external disk and DAT show up, but the internal Seagate does not.
Questions:
1. Is there any point/hope of resurrecting the internal drive? [I have
a recent backup.]
2. Any common tricks (like whacking it smartly) to get its attention?
3. In order to (a) preserve the presumably roughly optimal cooling air
flow pattern inside the station and (b) assure plenty of cooling for the
replacement drive I'm contemplating, I'm tempted to just leave the
pathetic remnant in situ (since it appears not to be drawing any power,
being metabolically impaired), and slap another external disk in a
well-ventilated enclosure on the chain with target number 1. Can I do
this, or must I set its target number as 0, so that it becomes the default
boot device. [Since the internal disk, with target number 1, appears
invisible and powered off, I assume the SCSI controller will just
ignore it, permitting me to re-assign this target number to a device on
the external chain.]
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
--
David M. Wood
Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401
Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840
e-mail: dmwood@Mines.Colorado.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: wxs13@po.CWRU.Edu (Wesley Shull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [intel] inkjet printer ps support?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 20:22:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <2vuu1v$bbu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I'm going to be setting up an intel (puke) NS system, and I need to know what
kind of PostScript support there is for inkjet printers (specifically, I'm
looking at the Canon BJ-200e). Is there a ps rasterizer in the system a la
ghostscript that will allow me to dump ps stuff to the printer, or a port of
ghostscript to NS, or what? I live for ps, but there's no way I can afford a
laser printer at this time.
Thanks,
Wes Shull - wes@nimbus.som.cwru.edu - wxs13@po.cwru.edu
"Those who do not understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly."
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From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: What graphics for Intel?
Message-ID: <1994Jul12.201312.1517@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 20:13:12 GMT
What is the current state of the art in fast graphics for Intel boxes?
Thanks,
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"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ez033219@chip.ucdavis.edu (James Antoniou)
Subject: Adaptec 2940 - Supported?
Message-ID: <CsuL51.807@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:00:37 GMT
The subject says it all - is the 7870 (e.g., the PCI 2940) family of
Adaptec SCSI host adapters supported under NSFIP? I abruptly switched
hardware from Adaptec EISA 1740 on a 486DX2-66 to a Pentium PCI system
with the Adaptec and still have an unused NSFIP 3.2 box sitting here.
Is anyone writing drivers for the Adaptec 7870 family and, if so, who and
how could I get a hold of them? I looked through my NS documentation and
couldn't find any technical support # for NeXT so I'm unable to talk to
them about any possible solutions.
Thanks for any information - Jim Antoniou
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From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre)
Subject: HD Formatting Errors on Black
Message-ID: <dalCsuL57.4Go@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:00:41 GMT
I'm trying to reformat a drive to an out of the box state,
but keep getting errors. Anyone have suggestions on how to
do this?
Using sdform:
server:2# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a
SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a
Drive type: SEAGATE ST12550N
512 bytes per sector
81 sectors per track
19 tracks per cylinder
2708 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders)
9 spare sectors per cylinder
19 alternate tracks per volume
0 usable sectors on volume
server:6# sdform /dev/rsd1a
Read Capacity command failed
sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid
SCSI status = 02H
Using sdformat 1.1:
server:1# sdformat -i2 -vf
_______
INQUIRY
Peripheral Qualifier: 0
Peripheral Device Type: 0x0 (read/write disk)
Removable Media: No
Device-Type Modifier: 0x0
ISO Version: 0
ECMA Version: 0
ANSI-Approved Version: SCSI 2
Response Data Format: 0x2
Additional Length: 143
Relative Addressing: No
32-bit Wide Data Transfers: No
16-bit Wide Data Transfers: No
Synchronous Data Transfers: Yes
Linked Commands: Yes
Tagged Command Queuing: Yes
Soft Reset: No
Vendor Identification: 'SEAGATE '
Product Identification: 'ST12550N '
Product Revision Level: '0013'
Vendor Specific: '00163896\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\0
00\000\000\000\000'
Reserved: '\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\
000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\
000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\
000'
Vendor-Specific Parameters: '\000Copyright (c) 1993 Seag
ate All rights reserved'
__________
MODE SENSE
Medium Type: 00h
Write Protect: No
Block Descriptor Length = 8
Density Code: Default (only one density supported)
Number of Blocks = 4178874
Block Length = 512
The SCSI Device specified by target ID 2, Logical Unit
Number 0, will be Formatted.
Are you sure? y
Format Unit...
SCSI I/O timeout requested is 90 minutes
sr_io_status = 0x3 "check status, sr_esense not valid"
SCSI status = 02H "Check Condition"
Sense key = 0x3, "Medium Error"
Additional = 0x32
Thanks for the help.
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From: tvz@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Timoty Vanzandt)
Subject: Connecting a new Mac drive to a NeXT.
Message-ID: <1994Jul12.213343.6618@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 21:33:43 GMT
I am about to buy one of the following external drives from APS:
Quantum 525 $479
Quantum 540 $499
IBM mr 540 $499
These come formatted for use with a Macintosh, but I was going to
connect it to my NeXT and reformat it with sdformat. Is there any
problem with this? Do the software driver that controls the cache
and such still work properly?
Any recommendations on the above drives, or on other drives in
this range?
Thanks.
Tim
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Universite Catholique de Louvain, Belgium
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SUMMARY: NeXT mouse replacement/fix
Date: 13 Jul 1994 03:39:52 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <2vvgl8$gs3@alf.uib.no>
Thanks for all the responses. Many pointed out that a Logitech
(and possibly other) bus mouse will work with a new plug added.
Others told about microswitchs being available everywhere.
Most were agreed that NeXT mice don't exist anymore as new
parts. I didn't find any used ones either.
My solution: I bought a cheap used mouse at the PC discount store,
and soldered out a microswitch which fitted perfectly into m,y
NeXT mouse. It doesn't have exactly the same feel, but it
works fine and keeps the original black streamlined looks of
my cube nice :-)
Regards,
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NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
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From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: Re: 16MB SIMMS?
Message-ID: <CsuutG.E1L@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <Cst17D.6nq@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 01:30:17 GMT
In article <Cst17D.6nq@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
> On a NeXTStation Turbo Color, will 16MB SIMMS work?
>
> If so, will any type do?
>
> How about mixing two 8MB SIMMS with two 16MB SIMMS for 48MB?
>
> Thanks in advance
The answers I received are [YES]
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: OPTi w/ VL, PCI, ISA: anyone using them?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 23:00:50 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <2vvse2$51@u.cc.utah.edu>
It turns out that the new Zenon machine runs a Diamond Viper more slowly
than a #9GXE64 Pro. When I get to work tomorrow, I'll slap the #9 in my
DECpc XL and bench it using NeXT's beta driver. I suspect it'll work well.
Anyway, I suspect the problem with the slow video on my machine is a
VL-to-PCI bridge through which all PCI I/O must pass. If anyone is using
an OPTi motherboard with the 4 PCI, 2 VL/ISA, and 2 ISA slots in
conjunction with a PCI video board and is finding success, let me know.
Otherwise I may end up sending this inexpensive P90 that just benched over
80 MIPs and nearly 130,000 dhrystones back to the factory. A cryin' shame.
..................................kris
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Intel] : 48kHz soundboard?
Date: 13 Jul 1994 01:06:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9407130606.AA00688@hsun22>
I'm sure I know the answer to this... <sigh>
Does anyone know of any (NEXTSTEP-compatible) PC sound card which will
support 48kHz (DAT standard) playback (even if not recording)?
Something I don't know...
Can anybody tell me what happens if the system is told to playback
a 48Khz sound? Does it bomb, downsample on the fly, play back at 44.1kHz?
(I suspect the latter...?)
... and whilst I'm here:
does anybody know what's happened to the i-Link 56k card?
Email response appreciated,
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Wanted info on NeXTBus Dev Kit
Message-ID: <Csv6Lp.3IF@ucdavis.edu>
Summary: Want to find NeXTBus Dev Kits Docs and Software
Keywords: NeXTBus Dev Kit Software Docs - NBIC Chips
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 05:44:13 GMT
NeXTBus Dev Kit Parts or Whole WANTED WANTED
Will pay for these items.
David Bradford
49 Don Gabriel Way
Orinda, CA 94563
510-376-9060
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium 90s, #9GXE64 Pros, and NXBench.
Date: 13 Jul 1994 06:10:32 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3000go$pq@eps.com>
References: <2vucvb$ku@u.cc.utah.edu>
In article <2vucvb$ku@u.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
writes:
>
> Not a good combination, at least at this time. I'm using a 2 MB
> #9GXE64Pro on a Zenon Z-Optimus II Pentium 90 with 16 MBs of RAM and a
512K
> cache. I have an NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI card running the Talus driver.
Though
> NXBench and NWBench reported nearly 80 MIPS and over 125000 dhrystones,
I
> benched 1.0 under 1024 x 768 @ 8-bit grayscale @ 60 Hz refresh rate.
>
> The video feels slower than a DX33 running an ATI VL-Bus card, what I
> would consider the lowest acceptable video performance of a PC running
> NEXTSTEP.
>
>
Hmmmm... Very strange. I am running the exact same board I tried it both
with 2 and 4 megs on my GW-2000 P5-90 with 32mb ram NCR PCI SCSI Talus
driver.. I am getting NXBench values of 1.74 at 32bit 1152x864 and I got
about the same thing running at 1152x864 16 bit.. Something sounds wrong
with your setup..
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
NeXTmail OK
From: Manish_Tuteja@MIT.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: request for a Seagate ST12400N disktab
Date: 13 Jul 1994 06:54:28 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <300334$bn8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
We're trying to get a Seagate ST12400N SCSI drive formatted and running
under NeXTSTEP. This is a 2 Gig drive. As such, the 3.2 version of
BuildDisk and disk have difficulty with it. The solution according to
NextAnswers is to write a disktab entry by hand. This is where the
problem arises.
The drive parameters in the Seagate manual do not match the parameters
printed by the scsimodes utility. For example, scsi modes reports 84
sectors/track. The manual says 82 sectors/track. Furthermore, both set
of values produce a disk with a size greater than 2048Mb(the published
size of the disk.)
Two requests:
1. Do you have a working disktab entry for this drive that you
can post or mail? (a disktab was posted for this drive last
month. It did not work correctly for us.)
2. Any suggestions on what else I may do?
Thanks.
Manish
From: afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de (Alfred Fiedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: 16MB SIMMS on NeXTstation Color?
Date: 13 Jul 1994 08:13:05 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <3007mh$ki4@news.uni-paderborn.de>
On a NeXTstation Color (non turbo), will 16MB SIMMS work?
If so, what type will do (pins, speed) ?
Thanks in advance,
A. Fiedler
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: 16MB SIMMS on NeXTstation Color?
Date: 13 Jul 1994 08:19:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <300825$een@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3007mh$ki4@news.uni-paderborn.de>
In article <3007mh$ki4@news.uni-paderborn.de>
afied1@pblea.uni-paderborn.de (Alfred Fiedler) writes:
> On a NeXTstation Color (non turbo), will 16MB SIMMS work?
4MB SIMMs are the largest the colorstation will take, or at least, that
was the official NeXT spec.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: what cartridge does the next lazer use?
Date: 13 Jul 1994 10:05:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <300e98$4tj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I don't have the manual and the folks here in Asia need to know which
HP cartridge (or other cartridge) it uses -- they say there is more than
one type of HP lazer cartridge.
thanks!
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Intel] : 48kHZ soundboards?
Date: 13 Jul 1994 05:09:38 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9407131008.AA01132@hsun22>
Supplementary on soundboards...
> Sound Boaster board were also listed as an 'Approved' sound board. But
> I have a problem to identify which is the approved board among the
> following variations.
>
> Sound Blaster 16 (Value Edition for DOS/V)
> Sound Blaster 16 (Multi CD with Advanced Signal Processor for DOS/V)
> Sound Blaster 16 (SCSI-II)
> Sound Blaster 16 (SCSI-II with Advanced Signal Processor)
>
Are these all equivalent (in terms of sound support, compatibility etc.)...?
Geez, I'm starting to feel somewhat out of touch over here...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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From: idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw (Simon Chih-L Han)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NextLaser printer
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 20:40:29 +0800
Organization: Tri-Service General Hospital
Message-ID: <idpt820-130794204029@192.72.64.123>
Does Next Laser printer support appletalk linkage? Because I want to
purchase a Next Laser printer, I wish it can connect to intel PC and Mac
concomitantly?
Thank you in advance for your comment,
--
Simon Chih-L Han MB 8 Sec 3 Ting-chow Rd Taipei Taiwan ROC
Division of Cardiology idpt820@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Tri-Service General Hospital
______/............
ibm=i buy macintosh
From: cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu (shem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ET4000W32 driver and Dell 466/L
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 10:47:49 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: global
Message-ID: <cameron1-080794104749@transient.uoregon.edu>
References: <JKUTE.94Jun30085259@tnd88.fnbc.com>
In article <JKUTE.94Jun30085259@tnd88.fnbc.com>, jkute@fnbc.com (Jon
Kutemeier) wrote:
> Has anyone been able to get the new ET4000W32i driver from NeXT
> to work on a Dell 466/L? I've installed the driver, set it
> up in Configure.app, chose a fairly simple resolution to try
> out (640x480 8 bit grey) and rebooted. It seemed to recognize
> everything fine, all the startup messages looked good, but
> when it came time to display the login panel, I would get
> no video signal whatsoever. My monitor is a multisync and
> more than able to handle any of the frequencies listed.
>
> I've have only 1 meg VRAM, but I don't think that is the
> problem.
>
> So, any words of wisdom out there? Or am I still stuck in
> 1024x768 2 bit grey mode?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Jon
> jkute@fnbc.com
i have a dell 4100/mx, w/ 2megs of vram and have had the same problem.
i've tried a number of the settings and have had no luck. maybe 3.3?
--
cameron hunziker affiliated with no one cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu
Caddy went to Winehouse and wrote a piece of farce.
Blotty words for Dublin.
jj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mikej@crash.cts.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: help i need a 200 mb hard drive
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:30:29 GMT
Message-ID: <Csvxqu.A8D@crash.cts.com>
Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem)
From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Tecor still in business?
Date: 13 Jul 1994 17:04:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <3016qj$74t@netnews.upenn.edu>
References: <2vuc1i$gsn@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <2vuc1i$gsn@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu
writes:
>Does anyone know if Tecor is still in business? I bought a tape drive
from
>them a year or two ago, and it has now gone skyward. If you have any
info,
>please let me know. I don't have high hopes.
>
>Thank in advance.
>-dave
In response to my own question; no, they are not in business.
The following person worked there, and would be worthwhile to contact, if
you are in a similar position as I:
Peripheral Solutions, 108 Dubois, Santa Cruz CA 95060 (408) 425-8280
Larry Cohen (408) 457-3160 FAX (408) 425-5792
-dave
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Date: 13 Jul 1994 17:36:56 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3018no$s46@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <bchin.773770408@news.andi.org>
Bill Chin writes
> In what ways is the Canon video superior? Speed? Resolutions? Color?
> If speed, what benchmark numbers do you draw this conclusion on? What
> rev of the display drivers and OS? I don't believe that the Canon
> video solution is "superior" in a broad sense.
I talked to tech support at Canon about this today (spoke to Mark), and
although he hesitated to get into quoting benchmarks (for reasons I
think most of us understand "there are lies, damn lies...") he did give
me one sample number for the object.station. He said the NXFactor for
the machine in 1120x832 16-color mode (76Hz refresh) was 1.7 to 1.8.
This is a good number. Makes the Canon faster doing 16-bit color than
my trusty Turbo slab is in 2-bit mono (NXFactor 1.5), and that sounds
pretty decent to me. I've always thought of the Turbo's video speed as
the target performance I would like to reach with a good color system.
My personal DX/2 machine (#9GXE VLB) manages only about 0.7 in 1024x768
16-color mode, about the speed of a black Turbo color machine.
Mark had an interesting point about NXBench as a video benchmark, he
noted that you can cheat on the test if you hide the NXBench window
with another one while its running (this was part of his reason for
being hesitant to quote numbers). I tried this on my Turbo slab, and
got an NXFactor of over 1.9. Makes sense, with the window hidden it
doesn't have to spend time doing all that video writing. Mark cited
this as one of the weaknesses of NXBench: there are ways to cheat, so
when you see numbers quoted you don't know for sure that they were
obtained honestly. As an aside, he said that with this cheat the
object.station shows an NXFactor of 6.0 or more, not that this means
anything.
----------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
System administrator and postmaster.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried MEDIATRIX's Sound Card ?
Date: 13 Jul 1994 17:41:55 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <301913$cdk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <JV.94Jul11165603@speedy.wg.com>
Jorg Vogler writes
> I'm looking for a good sound card which would be supported
> by NS/Intel as well. I heard that the MEDIATRIX soundcard
> comes with NS drivers. Has anyone experience with it.
>
I use a MediaTrix AudioTrix Pro in my DX/2 system. The board
is compatible with the Windows Sound System, and works with the
NeXTSTEP driver for WSS. I havn't tried to use it for recording
(I hear that there are problems doing that), but the sound output
is just great. The card sounds as good as my black station.
----------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
System administrator and postmaster.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec questions
Date: 13 Jul 1994 18:12:36 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <301aqk$8a0@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Can someone comment on the following questions:
Is it possible to *install* NEXTSTEP on a computer with an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI
controller and a gigabyte drive (no others)?
Does the (new) Adaptec driver support the PCI version of the 1542CF card?
If not, is there any other driver for the PCI version?
Is there a driver for the Adaptec 2940 controller? When will it be available?
Thanx in advance, Lars
--
Lars Konieczny
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de
From: amir@titan.sub.imp.com (Amir Guindehi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: soundblaster 16 driver -- no sound
Date: 12 Jul 1994 19:18:35 +0200
Organization: titan internet news site
Message-ID: <2vuj9b$10u@titan.imp.com>
References: <cameron1-110794140138@transient.uoregon.edu>
shem (cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu) wrote:
: i have nexstep running on a dell 100mhz 486. i've installed the latest
: driver for the soundblaster 16 (2.0?), but no sound. there are no
: conflicts pointed to, and no error messages. - yep, volume is cranked. any
: ideas?
If you have an ISA board then forget it! It won't work. The SB16 2.01 driver
only supports SB16 on EISA boards.
- Amir
--
Guindehi Amir Internet: amir@avalon.unizh.ch
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I am sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
From: lukeh@zola.apana.org.au (Luke Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 755c?
Date: 14 Jul 1994 08:21:42 +1000
Organization: Zola - Linux - Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <301pdm$249@zola.apana.org.au>
References: <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> <dglynn.10.0000411E@ncsa.uiuc.edu> <2vu44i$q6f@oclc.org>
Robin Hermance-Moore (rhm@oclc.org) wrote:
: David Glynn (dglynn@ncsa.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: : In article <2vs7ua$ggn@tequesta.gate.net> rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson) writes:
: : >I just received literature on IBM's newest laptop- the ThinkPad 755c- and
: : >it seems like an ideal portable solution to run NeXTSTEP.
: : ... and while I am sure you can
: : get NeXTStep running on th IBM, you won't be happy.
: I wouldn't even go that far - if the laptops use the same screwy
: proprietary IDE disk interface as the IBM ValuePoint line, you're in
: for trouble. I believe there's a NeXTanswers doc on the IBM VP problem.
Canon plan to bring out a PowerPC based notebook don't they? So perhaps
there is a chance of NeXTstep on that (given that it's Canon) ... (is a
generic PowerPC port on the way? It's supposedly PReP [PrEP?] compliant
anyway)
luke
--
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URL http://zola.apana.org.au/0/zola/people
Utilisez Linux!!!
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP, Dell's P90 and 1 gig enhanced IDE
Date: 13 Jul 1994 22:56:24 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <301reo$22i@rosie.next.com>
References: <kskaalr1.773991048@sol>
In article <kskaalr1.773991048@sol> kskaalr1@sol.UVic.CA (Kevin Skaalrud)
writes:
| I recently became a little worried when I saw a post from someone
| who said that NEXTSTEP will not work with the 1 gig enhanced IDE
| drive that is in the Dell P90. I am worried because I am only two days
| from purchasing this very box. Is it true? Is NEXTSTEP enhanced IDE
| challenged?
|
| If anybody is "in the know", I would sure appreciate it.
|
NEXTSTEP does not support large IDE disks (>504MB). The drives gets all
parameters from the BIOS and if your BIOS does not support large drives it is
not going to work.
Some IDE drives can be configured as two drives. But in general there is no
solution to this problem.
-Rakesh
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec))
Message-ID: <9407132115.AA21427@network.cfc.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:16:06 -0400
Subject: DAT drive choice
I'm trying to decide between a Wandat 3200 DAT drive from JCIS for $1199 and an
Exabyte 4200c DAT drive from Peripheral Solutions for $850. They're both of
the 4-8GB storage size. Is there any compelling reason not to choose the
obvious winner as far as price? Is there a better solution?
---
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work: (810) 948-4959
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NeXTmail welcomed!
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <300e98$4tj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Control: cancel <300e98$4tj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: 14 Jul 1994 03:32:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <302bjo$40f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Article cancelled from nr
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cub'X Windows and Miro Crystal 32S video card
Date: 14 Jul 1994 05:55:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Message-ID: <302jvu$oj8@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Has anyone gotten Cub'X Windows to work with a Miro Crystal 32S video
card?
I loaded the version of the demo which came with the NEXTSTEP 3.2 CDs
and it worked in only 1 of the 4 modes (the separate X screen mode). In
the other 3 modes, starting X would immediately cause the demo dialog
box to come up and state that it was a demo version and could be run
again by selecting "run X" (the demo is set to quit and give this
message after a specified small number of X events).
The newest version on the archive sites as of late spring (version 4.4)
didn't work in ANY of the 4 modes (all giving the above behavior). I was
told by Claire at Intuitiv that there were compatibility problems
specifically with the Miro Crystal 32S video card and that they would be
fixed in the new version about to come out. That new version (4.5) is
available, and I got it NeXT Mailed to me by her, but it gives the same
behavior and the Palo Alto branch of Intuitiv is in Germany for a few
weeks and haven't reponded to my e-mail requests for help.
Any help from knowing people in net-land would be appreciated.
I'd like to give Cub'X a fair shake before deciding between it and
co-Xist, but it's getting a bit absurd that I can't even run the demo.
(The co-Xist demo is not without it's problems also, like a very badly
submarining mouse pointer, and it doesn't do that without the program
as I have a nice PS/2 mouse.)
-Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement
Message-ID: <bchin.774131850@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <bchin.773770408@news.andi.org> <3018no$s46@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 20:37:30 GMT
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) writes:
>Bill Chin writes
>> In what ways is the Canon video superior? Speed? Resolutions? Color?
>> If speed, what benchmark numbers do you draw this conclusion on? What
>> rev of the display drivers and OS? I don't believe that the Canon
>> video solution is "superior" in a broad sense.
>I talked to tech support at Canon about this today (spoke to Mark), and
>although he hesitated to get into quoting benchmarks (for reasons I
>think most of us understand "there are lies, damn lies...") he did give
>me one sample number for the object.station. He said the NXFactor for
>the machine in 1120x832 16-color mode (76Hz refresh) was 1.7 to 1.8.
>This is a good number.
That's an extremely good number, especially for a 486DX4 100. I wonder
if existing Wingine machines can have their drivers re-written
to take advantage of the same optimizations. I now believe that
the Canon Wingine can definitely *move*.
As for the Wingine's video being superior to Gecko's, that depends
on what you are looking for. NEXTSTEP apparently operates in 24
bit color mode all the time on a HP color recovery system. The
video is compressed/dithered into an 8 bit frame buffer and then
uncompressed for display (in simplistic terms). HP says that the
result is around 22 bits of color information. To my eyes,
color recovery on newer releases of NEXTSTEP/HP at NSX was
quite good... pretty much undistinguishable from 24 bit color.
Certainly much better than 12 bit color. The Gecko is probably
slower than the Wingine in 12 bit color, but which one is superior?
That's up to the buyer.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: smuir@ix.netcom.com (Steve Muir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP, Dell's P90 and 1 gig enhanced IDE
Date: 14 Jul 1994 07:14:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <302olh$rvr@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <301reo$22i@rosie.next.com> Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM writes:
>
>In article <kskaalr1.773991048@sol> kskaalr1@sol.UVic.CA (Kevin Skaalrud)
>writes:
>| I recently became a little worried when I saw a post from someone
>| who said that NEXTSTEP will not work with the 1 gig enhanced IDE
>| drive that is in the Dell P90. I am worried because I am only two days
>| from purchasing this very box. Is it true? Is NEXTSTEP enhanced IDE
>| challenged?
>|
>| If anybody is "in the know", I would sure appreciate it.
>|
>
>NEXTSTEP does not support large IDE disks (>504MB). The drives gets all
>parameters from the BIOS and if your BIOS does not support large drives it is
>not going to work.
>
>Some IDE drives can be configured as two drives. But in general there is no
>solution to this problem.
>
>-Rakesh
>
We have found that even with a BIOS that will support a 1GB enhanced IDE drive
(using LBA), NS will return a 'dup CPU alloc' error in the same place every time
it's tried. Granted IDE has its limitations but I wanna see 13MB/sec just for
fun!!!
If anyone has had better luck, please post.
Steve
(smuir@eclipse.com)
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTstation heat dissipation?
Date: 12 Jul 1994 12:49:37 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <2vu3h1$mm0@danmeasure.dannug.dk>
References: <OTTO.94Jul4040112@tukki.jyu.fi>
In article <OTTO.94Jul4040112@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J.
Makela) writes:
> I've tried leafing through all the documentation I have for my mono
> NeXTstation, but I haven't found this: how much heat production is it
> safe to place inside the slab case? I was thinking of replacing the
> (by todays standards) dinky internal 3.5" 100M boot drive with a 1G
> drive, but with the machine fully loaded with 32M of memory, I might
> be pushing a heat dissipation limit. Anyone have figures? Thanks!
> --
> /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
We have color slabs and turbo color with 32 meg. 1.7 gb Micropolis 2217
SCSI drives.
NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
We have however had seriously trouble with Quantum disks, so we
personnally believe these should be avoided.
Good luck
Soren Wang - Denmark - sw@dannug.dk NeXTmail welcome
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: request for a Seagate ST12400N disktab
Date: 14 Jul 1994 07:21:56 GMT
Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <302p2k$eid@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org>
References: <300334$bn8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <300334$bn8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Manish_Tuteja@MIT.Edu writes:
>
> We're trying to get a Seagate ST12400N SCSI drive formatted and running
> under NeXTSTEP. This is a 2 Gig drive. As such, the 3.2 version of
> BuildDisk and disk have difficulty with it. The solution according to
> NextAnswers is to write a disktab entry by hand. This is where the
> problem arises.
>
> The drive parameters in the Seagate manual do not match the parameters
> printed by the scsimodes utility. For example, scsi modes reports 84
> sectors/track. The manual says 82 sectors/track. Furthermore, both set
> of values produce a disk with a size greater than 2048Mb(the published
> size of the disk.)
>
> Two requests:
>
> 1. Do you have a working disktab entry for this drive that you
> can post or mail? (a disktab was posted for this drive last
> month. It did not work correctly for us.)
>
> 2. Any suggestions on what else I may do?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Manish
ST12400N|SEAGATE ST12400N|SEAGATE ST12400N w/512 byte sectors as 1 partition:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#2621:nt#19:ns#84:ss#1024:rm#3600:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:r0=a:\
:pa#0:sa#2097000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:
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Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax: +49-721-696988
D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org
Germany
From: rod@netb82.bah.com (Roderick H. Durham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI SCSI Drivers for NEXTSTEP
Date: 14 Jul 1994 12:08:11 GMT
Organization: Booz-Allen & Hamillton
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3039rb$m9l@booz.bah.com>
Anyone know of any PCI SCSI drivers for NEXTSTEP?
-rod
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Rod Durham
(703) 521-1734
Booz Allen & Hamilton
1953 Gallows Road
Vienna, VA 22182
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: OPTi w/ VL, PCI, ISA: anyone using them?
Date: 14 Jul 1994 12:54:09 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <303chh$1ms@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <2vvse2$51@u.cc.utah.edu>
In article <2vvse2$51@u.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
writes:
>
> It turns out that the new Zenon machine runs a Diamond Viper more slowly
> than a #9GXE64 Pro. When I get to work tomorrow, I'll slap the #9 in my
> DECpc XL and bench it using NeXT's beta driver. I suspect it'll work
well.
>
> Anyway, I suspect the problem with the slow video on my machine is a
> VL-to-PCI bridge through which all PCI I/O must pass. If anyone is using
> an OPTi motherboard with the 4 PCI, 2 VL/ISA, and 2 ISA slots in
> conjunction with a PCI video board and is finding success, let me know.
> Otherwise I may end up sending this inexpensive P90 that just benched
over
> 80 MIPs and nearly 130,000 dhrystones back to the factory. A cryin'
shame.
>
> ..................................kris
Just picked a couple of these boards up yesterday. I'll let you
folks know how things go (after I buy a %#@%^& VL or ISA floppy controller
board - I knew I forgot something)
Dan Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
(713) 578-1434
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printers & NeXTSTEP
Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:02:32 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <303d18$ltb@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
As the owner of a NeXTstation and NeXTprinter, I didn't have to worry much
about printer compatibility. Now I am apparently going to spring for a Gecko
and this brings up the query,..
"Which HP printer do I want with my Gecko?"
or, more fundamentally,....
"Do I want a Postscript or dumb printer with NeXTSTEP?"
One of the nice things about the NeXTstation is that I never had to fuss with
the printer (other than cleaning the #@&&%$@ rollers to suppress the #^#%#$
error message about paper being jammed). I'm leaning towards a 600 dpi printer
so do I want a "4" or a "4M" or "?"? At 600 dpi there's a lot more bits to be
rasterized which would seem to make the 4M attractive for printing speed.
Conversely, would I have to fuss with downloading fonts (I'm partial to
New-Century Schoolbook, myself), running out of memory, etc that (I think) is
associated with having an distinct printing system?
Can anybody help me out on this one?
Mark.
--
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Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI Drivers for NEXTSTEP
Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:01:46 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <303cvq$23i@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <3039rb$m9l@booz.bah.com>
Keywords: SCSi, NCR
In article <3039rb$m9l@booz.bah.com> rod@netb82.bah.com (Roderick H.
Durham) writes:
> Anyone know of any PCI SCSI drivers for NEXTSTEP?
>
> -rod
>
> --
> Rod Durham
> (703) 521-1734
> Booz Allen & Hamilton
> 1953 Gallows Road
> Vienna, VA 22182
Why.... YES! And I don't even know this gentleman, folks, can you believe
this lead-in? For those of you that don't know me, I work for Talus I&C
Corp., and we have just a lovely driver for the NCR 53C810, 820 and 825
chipsets (yep, it works in wide, too), and we can bundle it with
controller cards (810 or 825) if you don't have it on-board or don't have
an add-in card yet.
This is the chipset in the DECpc XL, and several flavors of Dell
Omniplex. You can get pricing and availability from us, from your local
Dell reseller, and several DEC resellers/local reps (hopefully all, soon).
Also, I'll post this separately, but the e-mail address for bug
reports (if any) has changed again, to: bugs@talus.ru. Nothing is stable
over there, including e-mail.
Thanks for the bandwidth!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
dan@talus.com
Talus Imaging and Communications, Corp.
(713) 578-1434
fax: (713) 578-1815
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Talus tech support e-mail change
Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:07:39 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <303dar$2dr@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Keywords: SCSI, NCR, driver
The e-mail for complex tech support or bug reports regarding Talus drivers
has changed to: bugs@talus.ru . This address will now be stable,
barring events beyond our control (what other country has gangs with
nukes?). We hope this is not a great inconvenience for anyone.
I and my boss, Steve, would like to personally thank the
net.people for your support of our drivers and company. You folks are the
best.
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
dan@talus.com
Talus Imaging and Communications, Corp.
(713) 578-1434
fax: (713) 578-1815
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: vince@pons.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz)
Subject: Trouble with hooking up an HP Laserjet 4 Printer
Message-ID: <CsxM8C.Mnp@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 13:14:58 GMT
Okay, so, I have this lovely new HP Laserjet 4 printer with a postscript chip
and 10 megs of memory. I attached it to my NS Intel box via a HP parallel
cable, set up the configuration in PrintManager, and it doesn't work. When
printing a document the printer does receive data, but nothing comes out. A
second print attempt produces a garbled page. Isn't hooking up a postscript
printer which is listed in the PrintManager's type menu just supposed to
"work", or am I missing something? I.e. is it a software, or hardware
configuration problem?
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From: fl1ger@rrz.de (Ralf Weber)
Subject: Re: 100VG-AnyLAN Card Drivers in Future?!
Message-ID: <1994Jul14.131817.325@rrz.de>
Sender: fl1ger@rrz.de
Organization: Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH, Koblenz, Germany
References: <2vsjrn$iil@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 13:18:17 GMT
Dan Kramer writes
> There is a great demand for higher performance network
> hardware, which we are more than happy to meet :-). We will attempt
> to ship drivers at hardware release, if we can get enough support.
> Lots of stuff under way at this point. Expect good things from
> Talus during the next couple months (at least!).
Yes there is a great demand for HighPerformance Network Solutions! At
Networld/Interop in Berlin Synoptics and Intel showed a working
100BaseX solution (Fast Ethernet) and the 100Mps Intel Etherexpress
(PCI/EISA) supposed to be shipping in Q3/94. Is anyone writing drivers
for this beast?
--
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cicero GmbH (NeXTMail preferred)
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56070 Koblenz, Germany Fax: +49 261 892-525
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried MEDIATRIX's Sound Card ?
Message-ID: <1994Jul14.112630.33529@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Date: 14 Jul 94 11:26:30 EDT
References: <301913$cdk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Distribution: world
Keywords: NS-FIP, sound cards
In article <301913$cdk@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> writes:
> I use a MediaTrix AudioTrix Pro in my DX/2 system. The board
> is compatible with the Windows Sound System, and works with the
> NeXTSTEP driver for WSS. I havn't tried to use it for recording
> (I hear that there are problems doing that), but the sound output
> is just great. The card sounds as good as my black station.
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
Hmmm, actually, the DACs in the black hardware aren't that good.
Some have high-pitched whines (from the video?), they're noisy,
and as far as sound quality, they are far from subtle. I too used to
think the Black DACs were good until I heard playback though a
direct digital Stealth box into a DAT. What a difference!
I'm concerned that there seem to be no high-fidelity sound cards
out there that have drivers for NeXTStep. In addition, there are
no direct-digital cards supported either. For those of us upgrading
computer music studios from black to white this is a real problem.
The Turtle Beach cards have good DACs on them, but there are no
NeXTStep drivers for them. My question is, are there high-fidelity
alternatives out there?
In addition, there are problems even with the existing sound drivers for
NS_FIP. For example, as far as I know, no Intel sound card can record
properly at stereo 44Khz.
Is help on the way? Are there solutions I'm not aware of?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sean Varah
Harvard Computer Music Studio
cello@mario.harvard.edu
NeXTMail Welcome
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From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP on an HP Vectra
Date: 14 Jul 1994 17:33:16 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <303sss$qg5@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
If you are running NS/FIP on an HP Vectra (which is a 486DX2-66MHz
machine, right?), please e-mail me and let me know whether or not you are
happy with your choice of hardware. Was the base unit reasonably priced?
Are educational discounts available for these machines? Thanks in advance
for any information that you can provide.
Jim
From: brahm@alembic.com (Lans Brahmantyo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Info on JCIS
Date: 14 Jul 1994 14:05:47 -0500
Organization: Q.Ad - Q.Type (NEXTSTEP-based graphic design & type house)
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199407141905.AA17580@alembic.com>
Hello,
Just wondering if anyone knows how to contact JCIS.
Thanks.
....... brahm
From: Daniel Mcpherron <mcpherron@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SVGA Monitor needed ASAP!
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:51:29 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <hU4Sy4p.mcpherron@delphi.com>
My monitor just decided to blow up the other day, and I need a new one ASAP.
I'm using a CGA, but that's irrelevant. I have a Trident card w/ 1Meg RAM.
I had a 14" Ultra VGA Everview Monitor. If anyone has anything, let me know
ASAP. Thanx
From: bjohnson@nevis.verity.com (Brett M. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help configuring Intel EtherExpress Flash32
Date: 13 Jul 1994 01:16:51 GMT
Organization: Verity Inc. - Home of TOPIC Text Retreive System.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BJOHNSON.94Jul12181652@nevis.verity.com>
I am installing NEXTSTEP/FIP v3.2 onto a Dell OmniPlex 590.
This is a EISA/PCI bus machine. I ordered an Intel
EtherExpress LAN Adapter and received the EISA
architecture EtherExpress Flash32. Does anyone know
how to make this thing work with NEXTSTEP? The default
settings with the NeXT supplied Intel EtherExpress
driver don't seem to work.
Thanks for help.
Brett Johnson
bjohnson@verity.com
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: If you're looking for a 90 MHz Pentium. . . .
Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:30:37 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <3043ot$lfb@u.cc.utah.edu>
Don't buy from Zenon, as their machines are known *not* to work with
NEXTSTEP well. Excellent price, good number crunching, but poor video.
Now that the Zenon experience is over, I am asking a local reseller (not
Alpine, though they're still around and doing well) to build to my
specifications a NEXTSTEP-optimized PC with a Pentium 90 CPU. I realize
that some people are looking for Pentium 90 machines for NEXTSTEP, and I
certainly don't mind being the guinea pig (after all, it's only money,
right?), if the end result is there's one more reliable machine with which
to run NEXTSTEP.
The point is, if you're looking for a NEXTSTEP machine at a clone price, let
me know, because I'll be doing the necessary legwork to make it
happen--and many can benefit where only one could before.
..........................................kris
Kristopher Magnusson
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to make a disk use less reserve?
Message-ID: <Jul.14.15.45.00.1994.26391@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 14 Jul 94 19:45:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi all,
I just received a Fujitsu DynaMo 230meg OD. Everything seems to work
just fine. Plug and play; insert a disk and initialize it without any
problems. i.e. no disktabs required.
However, I notice (by looking at WM console) that when I initialize an
optical disk it gets initialized with 10% of space reserved for root user
purposes. Now since I mostly use this OD for archiving, Im not making it a
boot disk...Is there a way to have OD's initialized with 0% reserved, by
default--so I don't have to issue a 'mkfs' command as root? I don't have a
disktab for it, but I do have this mkfs info:
/etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 223002 1394 2 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t
Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due
to cylinder group size, using 21276 bytes per inode
Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode.
Warning: 38 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated
/dev/rsd1a: 223002 sectors in 80 cylinders of 2 tracks, 1394 sectors
228.4Mb in 5 cyl groups (16 c/g, 45.68Mb/g, 2048 i/g)
super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at:
16, 46024, 89232, 135240, 178448,
initialization complete
disk> q
hyde:3# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a
SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a
Drive type: FUJITSU M2512A 1304f32768 bytes per sector
0 sectors per track
0 tracks per cylinder
128 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders)
Host bad block handling
32768 alternate tracks per volume
446324 usable sectors on volume
Is it possible to have the machine initialize OD's from the WM
Disk->Initialize menu with 0% reserved with just the above info? Is it
possible to re-engineer a disktab from the above info--or is there some other
way of doing it?
Thanks, Later, John
From: laurent@di.epfl.ch (Laurent Bendel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New bootable partition?
Date: 10 Jul 1994 20:13:57 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Distribution: epfl
Message-ID: <2vpkq5$h4q@elna.ethz.ch>
Hi,
how can I install a bootable system on the NS partition of
my second hard disk? I cannot use BuildDisk, because I also
have DOS partitions on that disk.
I have already formatted the partition; is there a script
that does what BuildDisk does to install the system on, say,
/dev/sd1a ?
Thank you,
Laurent
--
bendel@di.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Subject: Re: 16MB SIMMS?
Message-ID: <1994Jul14.210529.440@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Organization: private NeXT
References: <2vtdv1$t4i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:05:29 GMT
Todd Takken writes
>> In article <Cst17D.6nq@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
>>
>> > On a NeXTStation Turbo Color, will 16MB SIMMS work?
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> > If so, will any type do?
>>
>> 72 pin, 70 ns or faster. You can use 100ns, but the machine will
>> compensate by slowing the clock down.
>>
>> > How about mixing two 8MB SIMMS with two 16MB SIMMS for 48MB?
>>
>> Probably, but I'm not sure.
>>
>> -- Todd Takken
>> takken@leland.stanford.edu
What about those SIMMS in a non-turbo slab?
tommi
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From: mdadgar@next.com (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to make a disk use less reserve?
Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:11:44 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3049mg$3aq@rosie.next.com>
References: <Jul.14.15.45.00.1994.26391@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Jul.14.15.45.00.1994.26391@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> Hi all,
> purposes. Now since I mostly use this OD for archiving, Im not making it a
> boot disk...Is there a way to have OD's initialized with 0% reserved, by
> default--so I don't have to issue a 'mkfs' command as root? I don't have a
> disktab for it, but I do have this mkfs info:
>
I really recommend that you don't do this. Part of that 10% overhead is used
by the Berkeley Fast File System to prevent file fragmentation and other evil
effects of disk use. You'll lose some *serious* performance by doing this.
Otherwise, you want to use the "tunefs (8)" command. Check the man page.
You want the "-m" (minfree) option.
- Mark "Kids, Don't Try This At Home" Dadgar
---
- Mark Dadgar
Network/Systems Administrator, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM - The Object *IS* The Advantage
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Connecting a network printer on a standalone ColorStation
Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:32:19 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <304at3$5dq@machthenext.dannug.dk>
Keywords: Network printer, Standalone
Hi all,
I m about to borrow a new colorlaserprinter product from my company, for
testing.
It has both a serial port (RS-422) and a network interface (Ethernet,
TCP/IP or IPX), and I m going to connect it to my ColorStation. I would of
course prefer to use thin Ethernet (BNC) with terminators on either end,
not much trouble in that.
But I m not quite sure as to how the software setup should be done. Do I
simply add a new entry through the PrintManager.app (yes, I have a PPD
file for it), or do I need to fiddle with Unix to get this connection to
work???
Also, is it possible to make the setup transparent to the app s, meaning
that I can print as usual (like the NeXTLaser), and it gets printed on
this printer, or will I have to use lpr???
The printer can also support EtherTalk (AppleTalk), and I still have the
original 3.0 AppleTalk package. Does anyone use this package on a 3.2
NeXT, with acceptable results (I know it s flaky at best)???
I m really looking forward to trying this product, and I only have for 2
weeks starting this Friday, so I need help fast!!!
Thanks for your support!
Best
Michael
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NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk
Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
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From: daniel@zac.itesm.mx(Daniel Ramirez Valdez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: hard disk boot failure
Date: 14 Jul 1994 23:24:49 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <304hg1$fur@campus.mty.itesm.mx>
References: <2vhd3u$pbt@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
I have a problem booting from hard disk, we have a power problem, and when we
power on the NeXT Station, it says something like this:
Target 1: MEDIA ERROR block 2fc45H retry 1
..
..
Target 1: MEDIA ERROR block 2fc45H retry 9
sdo(1,0) sense key 0x3 addtional sense code 0x11
SCSI block in error=195653
Partition a F.S. sector 97666
Load of etc/mach_init, errno 5, trying /etc/init
Load of etc/init failed errno 5
What this stuff mean? that the mach_init file is corrupted?
How can I replace it?
Thanks in advance!, please reply to my internet account!
--
Stardard disclaimers applies...
- Everything you know is wrong - U2 -
Daniel Ramirez Valdez, alias Danilo "All you need it's a Mac!"
Student/NeXT-Macintosh System Administrator/Computer Technician
daniel@zac.itesm.mx
From: gfs@is.rice.edu (Geoff Spradley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Fujitsu M2694 drive capacity
Date: 14 Jul 1994 23:25:21 GMT
Organization: Rice University
Message-ID: <304hh1$m8r@larry.rice.edu>
References: <Csu13C.CvK@pts.mot.com>
In article <Csu13C.CvK@pts.mot.com>, thorton@pts.mot.com writes:
|> I'm looking to replace a dead 660 Mb drive in a cube, and I've heard
|> conflicting things about the capacity of a Fujitsu M2694 ESA drive. Some
|> say it's a 1.2 Gb, and others say it's really just 1 Gb. Can anyone who
|> actually has this drive formatted under NeXTSTEP tell me what they get at
|> the end? Thanks.
|>
|> Tom
|>
|> P.S. I'm comparing this drive to other drives about the same price or
|> lower that claim to be 1 Gb formatted. Suggestions welcome.
|> --
|> Dr. Thomas B. Horton, Assistant Professor
It's really just 1 GB. I'm using one with a NeXTstation as a
secondary disk (non-boot, no special disktab entry) now. "df"
reports its capacity as 1027326 kbytes.
-Geoff
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Computer Consultant, W104 GRB Hall (713)285x5267 voice
School of Natural Sciences, Rice University (713)527-6099 fax
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From: arishem@ac.dal.ca (D M R)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP35470a DAT drive setup?
Message-ID: <1994Jul14.200829.25698@dal1>
Date: 14 Jul 94 20:08:29 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Sorry if this is a FAQ. I'm trying to get a HP 35470a DAT drive to work on a
NeXT box, and wondering if anyone has any information regarding the necessary
switch settings on the drive.
Any information would be appreciated, HP haven't attempted this setup before.
Darren
From: davec@fa.disney.com (Dave Coons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on JCIS
Date: 15 Jul 1994 00:17:07 GMT
Organization: Walt Disney Imagineering
Message-ID: <304ki3INN13a@marvin.is.wdi.disney.com>
References: <199407141905.AA17580@alembic.com>
Lans Brahmantyo (brahm@alembic.com) wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone knows how to contact JCIS.
JCIS just sent me a fax I requested about their
Shark and Big Shark products:
Tel: (510)659-8440
Fax: (510)659-8449
Doug M. Shon, Technical Sales Mgr.
The Big Shark (Model JC1485) has:
the Weitek P9100 graphics accelerator
4MB VRAM
up to 1600 x 1200 in 64K colors and 1280 x 1024 in 16M colors
IBM RGB 525 200MHz RAMDAC
Card is VESA on one edge and PCI on the other!
Prices are $245 for the 1MB version and $695 for 4MB
David Coons
Walt Disney Feature Animation
davec@fa.disney.com
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: request for a Seagate ST12400N disktab
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 15 Jul 1994 08:25:40 GMT
Organization: Xedoc Software Development Pty Ltd
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <305h64$2hp@yarrina.connect.com.au>
References: <300334$bn8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Manish_Tuteja@MIT.Edu wrote:
: We're trying to get a Seagate ST12400N SCSI drive formatted and running
: under NeXTSTEP. This is a 2 Gig drive. As such, the 3.2 version of
: BuildDisk and disk have difficulty with it. The solution according to
: NextAnswers is to write a disktab entry by hand. This is where the
: problem arises.
: The drive parameters in the Seagate manual do not match the parameters
: printed by the scsimodes utility. For example, scsi modes reports 84
: sectors/track. The manual says 82 sectors/track. Furthermore, both set
: of values produce a disk with a size greater than 2048Mb(the published
: size of the disk.)
: Two requests:
: 1. Do you have a working disktab entry for this drive that you
: can post or mail? (a disktab was posted for this drive last
: month. It did not work correctly for us.)
: 2. Any suggestions on what else I may do?
Try telneting to sunsite.unc.edu. Log in as 'gopher', then search
the sunspots archives for 'ST12400N'. The Sun people have this problem
all the time, and frequently request & post drive information for every
disk you can imagine.
Cam.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: HELP! Miro crystal 325 video card doesn't come up
Message-ID: <CszEA1.82s@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:20:24 GMT
folks,
i have a rather large problem with one of my pentium computers,
which i hope some kind soul could solve.
Scenario - System 3346 pentium based computer, which has an on-board
ATI video card (linear frame buffers, etc.).
we installed a MIRO crystal 325 video card, and now nothing comes
up. nada. zippo. rumor has it that we have to disable the on-board
video card, but i do not know how to do this. has anyone else
come across this problem? has anyone else solved it? help?
thanx in advance,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: Logitech bus mouse
Message-ID: <1994Jul15.134903.12580@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:49:03 GMT
Hi. I recently decided to make the move from a serial to a Logitech Bus
Man mouse. While it is recognized by the DOS mouse driver, it (needless to
say??) isn't being recognized at all by NeXTSTEP. I bought it knowing that
this is one of the supported mice on the market. Well, now looking through
the newer compatibility guide, I see that there is going to be an update
to support the newer Logitech Mouse. And that the estimated support
timeframe was shifted from Q2 to Q3.
Has anyone had any success with this? Is it too much to expect at least a
working mouse driver for NS? (Serial just really doesn't cut it, jumping
all over the place like it does.)
If anyone has maybe hacked the existing driver (if the sources are there)
or heard of any fix for this, I'd really appreciate hearing about it. This
is the second driver problem I've run into- I have a Pegasus VL board
which has been on the NeXT to-do list for 9 months now...
Thanks,
Mike Stepniczka
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: Thread: Wait for interrupt: returns -735
Message-ID: <CszMEJ.DAr@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Followup-To: poster
Summary: after disabling the miro card, i got...
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 15:15:53 GMT
hi folks,
earlier this morning i had posted a question for help concerning
my miro 32S card. it now looks like the problem is in the hardware
configuration - after removing the miro card, and attempting to
install NeXTSTEP, i got as far as (choose 2 to continue and not
load any new drivers). after choosing 2, the message
thread: wait for interrupt: returns -735
started scrolling in my window non-stop. has anyone seen
this symptom?
thanx in advance,
--
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%% The Linguistic Tongue, AT&T %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %%
%% btl@hogpf.att.com %% PLEASE!!!! %%
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Logitech bus mouse
Date: 15 Jul 1994 15:40:47 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <306alv$bfm@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
References: <1994Jul15.134903.12580@il.us.swissbank.com>
In article <1994Jul15.134903.12580@il.us.swissbank.com>
step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka) writes:
> Hi. I recently decided to make the move from a serial to a Logitech Bus
> Man mouse. While it is recognized by the DOS mouse driver, it (needless to
> say??) isn't being recognized at all by NeXTSTEP. I bought it knowing that
> this is one of the supported mice on the market. Well, now looking through
> the newer compatibility guide, I see that there is going to be an update
> to support the newer Logitech Mouse. And that the estimated support
> timeframe was shifted from Q2 to Q3.
> Has anyone had any success with this? Is it too much to expect at least a
> working mouse driver for NS? (Serial just really doesn't cut it, jumping
> all over the place like it does.)
> If anyone has maybe hacked the existing driver (if the sources are there)
> or heard of any fix for this, I'd really appreciate hearing about it. This
> is the second driver problem I've run into- I have a Pegasus VL board
> which has been on the NeXT to-do list for 9 months now...
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Stepniczka
Here's my guess:
The NS Bus Mouse driver defaults to IRQ 5 so you need to change a jumper
on the Logitech board - there's only one jumper block and the numbers
that label each pair of pins correspond to the IRQ number.
Needless to say you also need to replace the Serial driver with Bus Mouse
driver in Configure.app.
--
John Hibbitt
Dept of Physics, Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads)
Subject: NeXTSTEP Workstation FOR SALE!
Message-ID: <jrhoadsCszoqH.G2L@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:06:17 GMT
NeXTSTEP Workstation FOR SALE!
o 486DX-50MHz EISA (Not a DX2!)
o 126k Cache
o 32MB RAM (2 x 16MB SIMMS)
o Supports up to 128MB RAM w/ 32MB SIMMS
o 600MB Disk space (SCSI-2)
o NEC 3Xi Tripple Speed CD-ROM
o Adaptec 1542B SCSI Host Adapter
o 3.5" 1.44MB Floppy Drive
o ATI Ultra Pro w/ 2MB VRAM (EISA)
o Pro Audio Spectrum 16
o 17" Optiquest Monitor
o NeXTSTEP 3.2 User Package Installed
o Full NeXTSTEP and hardware documentation
o Includes Tower Case, Mouse, Keyboard, and AppWrapper CDs
This is my personal machine that I built specifically to run
NeXTSTEP. I am asking $6500. I will ship COD via UPS 2nd Day to
anywhere in the U.S. at no additional cost. Sorry, there is no
warranty on this machine, but I will be happy to provide
tech support via e-mail for as long as you own it.
Please no phone calls. Send all responses via e-mail. Thanks!
- Jason
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Jason R. Rhoads
Frontier Technology Inc.
530 E. Montecito St., Suite 105
Santa Barbara, CA 93103-3245
Phone: (805)-965.2477
Fax: (805)-965.2478
email: jrhoads@netcom.com (NeXTMail OK)
_____________________________________________________________________
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 16 MB SIMMS?
Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:38:13 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <306e1l$f3v@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1994Jul14.210529.440@balou.rhein.de> tommi@balou.rhein.de
(Thomas Pfleiderer) writes:
> What about those SIMMS in a non-turbo slab?
If your non-turbo slab was one of the last to be manufactured before the
turbos came out, then it has the turbo motherboard and can take the same
SIMMs as a turbo. This means SIMMs up to 16 MB each. However, the
majority of 25 MHz colorstations can only take SIMMs up to 4 MB each.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: dwight@crl.com (Dwight Shih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help for a Micropolis 4110 (jumper settings)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 15 Jul 1994 11:39:08 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Message-ID: <306l4c$396@crl.crl.com>
Well, my new hard disk arrived the other day; so my disk space woes
will soon be deferred for a few months. Unfortunately, it's an
internal disk and it came without a sheet defining the jumper settings.
Whilst I'm trying to get one from my vendor, does any one know the
correct jumper settings for use with black hardware?
thanks,
dwight shih
dwight@crl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott)
Subject: BW Printer Problem [68040]
Message-ID: <rscottCszu1y.3K0@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:01:09 GMT
I've searched the FAQ but did not find an answer.
I've cleaned a hundred printers in my time from
NEC SilentWriter and Macintosh LaserWriters through
Linotronic, AGFA SelectSet and Tektronix Color
Phaser but I've never been refused like
I am by the Next BW with an HP cartridge.
I installed a new HP cartridge and ran a few
hundred pages fine. Moved the unit across the
room and bang - a black stripe down the middle
of every page repeating a shadow. Obviously a
roller is dirty. I tracked it down to the inside
of the HP cartridge, but there is no way to open
and clean. The various slots with green cleaning
sticks found inside the Next Printer do not work.
If you pop the HP cartridge, roll back the cover
on the lcd and rotate it you can see a streak
of toner appear where the printing defect occurs.
It looks like once a HP cartridge goes bad this
way it's shot. Can anyone fill me in on how to
fix this if it can be done?
Thanks in advance.
Charlie Dvorak
rscott@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Hisaaki.Shimo@tkt.dec.com (Hisaaki Shimo)
Subject: Re: DEC DSP3210S disk on next
Message-ID: <Cst5x7.8o8@jrd.dec.com>
Sender: usenet@jrd.dec.com (USENET News System)
Organization: DEC Japan, R&D Center
References: <Css24H.62C.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Distribution: comp.sys.next
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 03:34:18 GMT
In article <Css24H.62C.3@cs.cmu.edu> map+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mark Puskar) writes:
> I'm trying to install a DEC DSP3210S 2.1 gig disk on a next cube running
> nextstep 3.0 . I a get seek error when I try to newfs the disk.
The disktab's information is following. Please use it.
#+
# DEC DSP3210S with 512 byte sectors
# by Hisaaki Shimo (shimo@biac.linc.or.jp)
#-
dsp3210s|DSP3210S|DEC DSP3210S:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3049:nt#16:ns#43:ss#1024:rm#5400:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=odmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#2097152:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
#
--
Hisaaki Shimo
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan
Internet(Office): Hisaaki.Shimo@tkt.dec.com
Internet(Home) : shimo@biac.linc.or.jp (NeXTmail welcome),
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help evaluating 50 mhz upgrade board for black hardware
Date: 12 Jul 1994 07:19:28 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <2vtg60$ojq@nntp.crl.com>
After some weeks of development, I have now received the prototype of a 50 mhz
upgrade board for 25 mhz '040-based black hardware. It is working flawlessly on
all the applications I have tested.
I am now attempting to benchmark this performance, but general-purpose benchmarks are
not appropriate, as performance is highly application-dependent. Accordingly, I am
looking for your suggestions for applications on which to test the unit.
Please send email to the undersgined.I will report to the net ASAP regarding pricing
and availability.
Sam
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: play3401 v1.2 & 4101 on Intel?
Date: 15 Jul 1994 21:06:45 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <306tp5$if5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
We've got some DEC XL's that came with Toshiba 4101 CDROM drives. As
documented they don't work with CDPlayer, however I grabbed a MAB copy of
play3401 (version 1.2) of the NeXT archives which allows transfer of audio over
SCSI with a Toshiba drive. The notes implied that it should work with an Intel
system and the 4101 drive but it didn't, and looking at the code, I don't see
how it could as the identification string was too specific (easily fixed) and
the little endian repairs didn't look sufficient (compared to various NeXT
headers/examples).
Before I contact/bother the author about it, does anyone have play3401 (or a
variant) working with the 4101 and/or Intel? I did get PhotoCDs to work once I
located a copy of XAmode.
Thanks,
- Christopher
From: rharris@clark.net (Richard M. Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: External Floppy for NeXT Cube
Date: 15 Jul 1994 22:07:32 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3071b4$69m@clarknet.clark.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I have one of the Cubes that has no internal floppy and have been using a
CubeFloppy 2.9 for the last several years. It now refuses to power up,
and before I spend $ to get it fixed, two questions:
1. Is there any magic to this, or can use any SCSI external floppy I can
find? If magic, who makes one that works?
2. Is there any common, simple known failure mode for the CubeFloppy 2.9
that I shoud be aware of?
And of course, if anyone has a working one to sell, please let me know.
--
*** Mike Harris phone day: (703) 883-6857 eve: (703) 356-1686
messages: (202) 466-5133 fax: (703) 356-5431
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: If you're looking for a 90 MHz Pentium. . . .
Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:34:45 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <3072u5$11o@u.cc.utah.edu>
References: <3043ot$lfb@u.cc.utah.edu>
Yan Fang (yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote:
: Don't buy from Zenon, as their machines are known *not* to work with
: NEXTSTEP well. Excellent price, good number crunching, but poor video.
: Now that the Zenon experience is over, I am asking a local reseller (not
[munch]
The Zenon experiment isn't over. Zenon agreed to send me a motherboard
based on the Intel Neptune chipset that should eliminate problems
interrupting video I/O over the PCI bus. GEC says this motherboard is
incompatible with the ASUS SC200 card, which uses Talus's NCR 53C8xx
driver, but we shall see.
Anyway, kudos to Zenon for trying to make their product work right!
.........................kris
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to make a disk use less reserve?
Date: 16 Jul 1994 00:11:05 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <3078ip$1op@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <Jul.14.15.45.00.1994.26391@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3049mg$3aq@rosie.next.com>
In article <3049mg$3aq@rosie.next.com>,
Mark Dadgar <Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM> wrote:
>In article <Jul.14.15.45.00.1994.26391@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
>kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>> Hi all,
>> purposes. Now since I mostly use this OD for archiving, Im not making it a
>> boot disk...Is there a way to have OD's initialized with 0% reserved, by
>> default--so I don't have to issue a 'mkfs' command as root? I don't have a
>> disktab for it, but I do have this mkfs info:
>>
>
>I really recommend that you don't do this. Part of that 10% overhead is used
>by the Berkeley Fast File System to prevent file fragmentation and other evil
>effects of disk use. You'll lose some *serious* performance by doing this.
>
>Otherwise, you want to use the "tunefs (8)" command. Check the man page.
>You want the "-m" (minfree) option.
>
I think for the given application (archiving) reducing the reserved
space is not unreasonable. Use it at your risk of course. I would not
set it to zero IMHO, nor would I use it on a heavily active or system
drive.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: setting up a faxmodem other than HSD or Interfax?
Date: 16 Jul 1994 00:49:21 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <307aqh$e6u@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Hello all,
We have a US Robotics Sportster 14.4 fax/data modem which we are currently
using for slip connections and general modem use. I'd like to see if it would
be possible to use the NextStep Fax facilities (which appear really nice)
without having to buy one of the special modems listed (HSD or Interfax).
I was looking in /usr/lib/NextPrinter and noticed that there are two sets of
files (presumibly for the two different supported faxes). One is called
Interfax_Fax_Modem and the other is just Class2_Fax_Modem. It makes me wonder
if this might be a more general purpose driver than suggested by the HSD label.
Has anyone been able to get faxmodems other than the HSD and Interfax working
with NextStep? Are their PD drivers out there for other faxmodems? Are there
any comercial drivers for other faxmodems available? Is this a lost cause :)
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Jessica Hayden
Dept. Chemistry
U.Wisconsin - Madison
hayden@drumlin.chem.wisc.edu
From: berk@berk.commerce.ubc.ca (Jonathan Berk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Reformatting the boot partition on a hard drive
Date: 16 Jul 1994 01:15:03 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <307can$rp9@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
I am having a problem booting off my internal drive on my nextstation. I
called quantum and they think the boot partition is corrupted. They
suggested connecting the disk to a dos machine and running the dos command
fdisk that will reformat the boot partition. They tell me no comparable
command exists in unix. Can this possibly be true?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu (Douglas Boyce)
Subject: [UPDATE] Patch to allow CDPlayer work with Toshiba CD-ROMs
Message-ID: <Ct0881.3JL@freenet.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: State University of New York At Buffalo, NY (USA)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 23:07:13 GMT
A number of NEXTSTEP/FIP users that have Toshiba CD-ROM players (including
me) have complained that CDPlayer.app doesn't work with the device. We
always assumed it was the apps fault. This lead me to GTools, a cool app from
Germany by Gerd Knops <gerti@BITart.sub.org>, which has a module (GKPlayer)
especially for playing CD's on Toshibas. As an added bonus he included a
bug fix for a bug present in all NeXT shipped Adaptec drivers. With
GKPlayer this bug manifests itself when you attempt to fast forward within a
song by locking the board for a minute or so until it resets.
After applying the patch to my surprise I can now just insert a CD into
my Toshiba and CDPlayer now finds my favorite CD. It was the Adaptec driver
all along. Thank god for SCSI technical guys.
For those that can compile here is a diff that you can apply to the sources
supplied by NeXTanswer #1556
If you want to read the background download GKPlayer from the archives
and look at the README
*** Adaptec1542B.orig/Adaptec1542B_reloc.tproj/AHAThread.m Wed Mar 23 21:50:17 1994
--- Adaptec1542B/Adaptec1542B_reloc.tproj/AHAThread.m Fri Jul 15 03:01:17 1994
***************
*** 192,198 ****
cmdlen = scsiReq->cdbLength;
else
#endif REV_3_3
! cmdlen = sizeof (struct cdb_6);
cdb_ctrl = 0;
break;
--- 192,198 ----
cmdlen = scsiReq->cdbLength;
else
#endif REV_3_3
! cmdlen = sizeof (struct cdb_10);
cdb_ctrl = 0;
break;
--
Doug Boyce
WHAT Software, Inc. (NEXTSTEP software developing and computer reselling)
ak272@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu
NeXTmail and MIME welcome
From: mara@tam2000.tamu.edu (Margaret Helmuth )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ISPW Wanted
Date: 16 Jul 1994 03:04:02 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Tx
Message-ID: <307in3$nt@news.tamu.edu>
References: <307can$rp9@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
I'm interested in possibly buying an IRCAM Signal Processing Workstation Board.
Mara Helmuth
409-696-4868
mara@jing.tamu.edu or mara@tam2000.tamu.edu
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help evaluating 50 mhz upgrade board for black hardware
Date: 13 Jul 1994 03:52:05 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <2vvod5$il7@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <2vtg60$ojq@nntp.crl.com>
In article <2vtg60$ojq@nntp.crl.com> smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger) writes:
>After some weeks of development, I have now received the prototype of a 50 mhz
>upgrade board for 25 mhz '040-based black hardware. It is working flawlessly
Hey Sam,
Something screwy with your service provider's MX/NS database
(no MX or A records), hence no e-mail path to you (at least from
where I sit):
tshimshan:/Users/jmack>expn smg@orb.com.
orb.com: Could not resolve address
<smg@orb.com.> orb.com: Could not resolve address
tshimshan:/Users/jmack>host -vt MX orb.com.
rcode = 2 (Server failed), ancount=0
Host not found, try again.
tshimshan:/Users/jmack>host -vt ANY orb.com.
rcode = 0 (Success), ancount=2
The following answer is not authoritative:
orb.com 164136 IN NS CRL.COM
orb.com 164136 IN NS CRL-SV.CRL.COM
For authoritative answers, see:
ORB.COM 164136 IN NS CRL.COM
ORB.COM 164136 IN NS CRL-SV.CRL.COM
Additional information:
CRL.COM 114858 IN A 165.113.1.12
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP, Dell's P90 and 1 gig enhanced IDE
Date: 16 Jul 1994 12:53:26 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <308l86$feg@convex.cc.uky.edu>
References: <301reo$22i@rosie.next.com>
Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM writes
-> In article <kskaalr1.773991048@sol> kskaalr1@sol.UVic.CA (Kevin Skaalrud)
-> writes:
-> | I recently became a little worried when I saw a post from someone
-> | who said that NEXTSTEP will not work with the 1 gig enhanced IDE
-> | drive that is in the Dell P90. I am worried because I am only two days
-> | from purchasing this very box. Is it true? Is NEXTSTEP enhanced IDE
-> | challenged?
-> |
-> | If anybody is "in the know", I would sure appreciate it.
-> |
->
-> NEXTSTEP does not support large IDE disks (>504MB). The drives gets all
-> parameters from the BIOS and if your BIOS does not support large drives it
is
-> not going to work.
->
-> Some IDE drives can be configured as two drives. But in general there is no
-> solution to this problem.
->
-> -Rakesh
Well, I skipping the NeXTSTEP part, I can attest to the fact that a Micronics
Mp5i and a Micronics M2112A don't work together...this is a Pentium motherboard
and a 1G IDE drive which can look like on big one, or two 500Meg ones...it find
the parameters...but doesn't work...I beleive it to be the Phoenix BIOS, since
the drive fails no matter what IDE controller I use, but works okay in other
machines....
--
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Message-ID: <1994Jul16.131652.8549@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchicago strn fanclub
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 13:16:52 GMT
Does anyone know what hardware will be supported by NS3.3? Will it be the
current list for 3.2 that is avalible on ftp.next.com, or are they going to
be adding even more support? If it is the latter, does anyone know when they
will be releasing the list of supported hardware?
(I am planning on upgrading to NS/Fip, but I'm waiting on some of the
hardware until I know what will be supported by 3.3)
Thanks,
-Larry.
--
|ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! |
|--Well, yes, I do talk to myself sometimes. |
From: adv2000@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: STB Pegasus driver
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 12:36:41 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <5WywaM5.adv2000@delphi.com>
References: <2v1s3h$rti@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
STB drivers are available on 3.3, Brian M.
From: adv2000@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: miro Crystal 20SD driver
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 94 12:50:49 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <5WzRqUx.adv2000@delphi.com>
References: <2v9ak3$fhj@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
<u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw> writes:
>
Miro Has them on its BBS, the 20SD drivers are bugy and Miro should do more
work on them. You can also get them from Advance 200 us at Advance 2000 (Brian
M) but loadind them at the present time can corrupt you drive.
From: smuir@ix.netcom.com (Steve Muir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP, Dell's P90 and 1 gig enhanced IDE
Date: 16 Jul 1994 16:52:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <309380$brp@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <308l86$feg@convex.cc.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward) writes:
>
>Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM writes
..there is no solution to this problem.
>->
>-> -Rakesh
>
>Well, I skipping the NeXTSTEP part, I can attest to the fact that a Micronics
>Mp5i and a Micronics M2112A don't work together...this is a Pentium motherboard
>and a 1G IDE drive which can look like on big one, or two 500Meg ones...it find
>the parameters...but doesn't work...I beleive it to be the Phoenix BIOS, since
>the drive fails no matter what IDE controller I use, but works okay in other
>machines....
>--
You wrote:
>Well, I skipping the NeXTSTEP part, I can attest to the fact that a Micronics
>Mp5i and a Micronics M2112A don't work together...this is a Pentium motherboard
>and a 1G IDE drive which can look like on big one, or two 500Meg ones...it find
>the parameters...but doesn't work...I beleive it to be the Phoenix BIOS, since
>the drive fails no matter what IDE controller I use, but works okay in other
>machines....
>--
John,
Don't know if you read my post about a week ago about this... In order for your
1GB IDE to be seen as 1 partition in *any* OS (NS, DOS, whatever) your motherboard
MUST support the new enhanced IDE spec. Based on our experience with Micronics/
Phoenix I'd have to guess that you're outta luck with that board. As far as NS
is concerned though, it doesn't look like any combination is gonna work. We use
the Intel Plato motherboards in the Pentium 90 NS machines we sell and they support
enhanced IDE (using LBA) which will allow you to fdisk and format a 1GB partition
under DOS but NS is another story. During the build, NS will return a 'dup CPU
alloc' error every time while laying down the partition. Based on that error, is
there a workaround or something we're missing?
Steve
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Date: 16 Jul 1994 19:19:48 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <3094rk$ber@alf.uib.no>
Hi.
I'm considering purchasing a Gecko (712/60) to run NeXTSTEP.
It seems many advocate purchasing a minimum configuration
and upgrading with third party products/parts.
I'd like to know the following:
What type (Speed, package, parity) RAM memory does the 712 use?
Will a full height disk drive fit inside the 712? I have a HP 1 gig disk...
What kind of video adaptor is needed to connect other monitors?
What other monitors (high quality, like the OEM Sony HP sells) are recommended?
Do I understand correct that 712 supports 1024x768 colour natively?
Is a VRAM addition/upgrade all that is required to enable 1280x1024 res?
Is this VRAM addition available through 3rd party (i.e. easy to source)?
I hope these questions are specific enough. I would appreciate
receiving e-mail replies and comments, and will summarize if there
is interest.
Regards,
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NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: ESDI Drives and NS/FIP
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 18:12:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Jul16.181215.23649@cyantic.com>
I have a Seagate Wren VI 383 Mb Half Height Drive with an Everex EV-348
Controller. I'd like to use the drive with NS. Has anyone had any
experience with this drive/controller combination?
If the controller isn't compatible, I could easily find another, but would
prefer not to sink too much into this older setup.
Please reply by email.
Thanks
--
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1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: chaean@engin.umich.edu (Chae Hon An)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT purchase
Date: 16 Jul 1994 23:02:40 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <309ougINNe5b@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Keywords: NeXT, help
My shcool is getting rid of a NeXT lab and will be selling the
hardware to the public. I have been using those NeXTs for about a year,
mostly remotely logging on to use mail and read news. Presumably, those
NeXTS will be sold relatively cheaper than market value, if they conform
to prior Property Disposition sales. I am thinking about purchasing one
and have several questions.
I know that NeXT has (will?) stopped manufacturing hardware.
Will software support continue?
My experience is limited to above mentioned applications. What
other applications are out there for NeXT that has business and productivity
uses? Future use of the machine could include being a file server for
my dad's business' LAN, although its use could expand to other
applications as business grows. Ethernet connection to Internet is
very probable.
Compatibility: Basically anything you could tell me about NeXT's
compatibility with other machines, PowerPC, IBM-compt, Mac, Suns and
their various OS.
Thanks in advance for the help.
--C h a e
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From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra XLR in 1024x768 16bpp
Date: 17 Jul 1994 03:04:06 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Message-ID: <30a736$7ma@news1.svc.portal.com>
I am trying to get NS to start in 1024x768 16bpp mode with an
ATI Ultra XLR (VLB) with 2megs of DRAM. The card will only startup in
default VGA mode or 800x600 16bpp mode. Is there an incompatibility
with the XLR and the regular Ultra Pro drivers?
One thing I notice in my XLR manual is that apparently the XLR
uses ports 2E0-2EF while the configure panel for the ATI driver says
the card should only use 6 bytes instead of 8 bytes of port space.
I have Configure set to use ports starting at 2E0 and memory video space
starting at 0x7C00... (124 megs, which is what the card reports the memory
space to be in DOS diagnostics). I have the mode set to 1024x768 555
72 Hz, which the card and the monitor support (a monitor has been
programmed into the Mach32 DOS setup).
I'm using NS 3.2 right off the 3.2 CDROM on a Gateway 2000 66V.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Duane
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Canon Hardware -- Who besides Canon (Resellers)
Message-ID: <1994Jul16.164307.947@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 16:43:07 GMT
Are there any resellers of Canon machine out there?
THanks
Wes
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From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SoundBlaster 16 AWE
Date: 17 Jul 1994 03:23:08 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Message-ID: <30a86s$alj@news1.svc.portal.com>
Has anyone been able to get the SB16 AWE working with the
SoundBlaster drivers. I have the 2.0 drivers, and during boot up
the SB16AWE apparently gets reset okay, so I think that the driver
can talk to the card, but I get no sound at any volume.
NSFIP 3.2 on Gateway 66V, SB set to Port 220, IRQ 5, and
DMA channels 1 (low) and 7 (high). Configure is set with those
settings.
Thanks in advance.
Duane
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"We work for pizza and beer."
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Date: 17 Jul 1994 05:01:11 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30adun$af9@eps.com>
I just ran iozone on my 90mhz Pentium box and was wondering if anyone can
explain why I am getting good read access but poor write..
Outout from iozone:
eps> iozone 8
IOZONE: Performance Test of Sequential File I/O -- V1.16
(10/28/92)
IOZONE writes a 8 Megabyte sequential file consisting of
16384 records which are each 512 bytes in length.
It then reads the file. It prints the bytes-per-second
rate at which the computer can read and write files.
Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...15.458222 seconds
Reading the file...1.055693 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
542663 bytes/second for writing the file
7946067 bytes/second for reading the file
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us (Gary L.)
Subject: NeXTSTEP/Intel Hardware Survey
Message-ID: <Cst2E6.Fq1@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us>
Organization: toadstool, Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:18:05 GMT
Hi. This is the Hardware survey I posted to the NeXTSTEP for Intel
Processors HomeBrew Mailing list. If you run any Intel system
you are invited to fill this survey out.... If you want to join
our list, mail to: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu
message text: sub nsi-homebrew
to unsubscribe, same address, message text: unsub nsi-homebrew
thanks. Gary
Most of this survey (99.9%) was copied from the Linux Hardware
Compatibility
Survey created by Travis Jensen (jensen@peruvian.utah.edu). It is used
with
his permission.
Please e-mail all completed surveys to:
nsi-hw-survey@beavis.im.med.umich.edu
A) Desktops:
A1) What works?
A1-1) Motherboard questions:
CPU (Intel, AMD, etc):
Model (386, 486, 486DX2, Pentium, etc):
Speed of chip (in Mhz):
Manufacturer of motherboard:
Model number of motherboard:
Physical Memory (in megabytes):
Bus architecture (ISA, VLB, PCI, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-2) Video card questions:
Manufacturer of video card:
Model of video card:
Chipset of graphics card:
Bus interface (PCI, VLB, ISA, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-3) Monitor questions:
Manufacturer of monitor:
Model of monitor:
Size of monitor (in inches or cm's):
Max Resolution and refresh rate (x_pix X y_pix @ Hz):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-4) SCSI adapter questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Bus interface (PCI, VLB, ISA, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-5) Hard drive questions:
For this section, please use the following format for each
drive that you have on your system (as many as is necessary).
Type (SCSI/SCSI-2/IDE):
Manufacturer:
Model:
Size (in megabytes):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-6) Tape backup questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Capacity (in megabytes):
Type (IDE, SCSI, parallel port, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-7) CD ROM questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Type [IDE/SCSI]:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-8) Modem/fax questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Speed:
Compression:
Type [Internal/External]:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-9) Mouse/Trackball
Manufacturer:
Model:
Type (bus, ps2, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-10) Ethernet card questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Bus interface (ISA, EISA, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-11) What other hardware do you use with NeXTSTEP, and what software
is needed to use it (e.g., extra drivers). Give a short
description
of the hardware on the description line.
Description:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A2) What doesn't work?
A2-1) Hardware that you've tried that doesn't work:
Description:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A3) Out-of-the-box systems:
(Please list any changes to the purchase configuration, and put
them above.)
A3-1) Who made it?
Manufacturer (vendor):
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
B) Notebooks:
B1) What works?
B1-1) Who made it?
Manufacturer (vendor):
Model:
Graphics modes possible (resolution/bits per pixel):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
B1-2) Notebook periphials:
Note: You can repeat this section as many times as is
necessary.
Description:
Type (PCMCIA, parallel port, internal):
Manufacturer:
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
B2-0) What doesn't work?
B2-1) Notebooks you couldn't get NeXTSTEP running on:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Comments:
B2-2) Periphials you couldn't get working under NeXTSTEP:
Description:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Type (PMCIA, parallel port, internal, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
(I hope this worked.... 8-)
--
==============================================
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stimpy@mmg.im.med.umich.edu
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Date: 17 Jul 1994 14:56:25 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <30bgqp$je5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <30adun$af9@eps.com>
steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
>I just ran iozone on my 90mhz Pentium box and was wondering if anyone can
>explain why I am getting good read access but poor write..
>Outout from iozone:
>eps> iozone 8
>[...]
>Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...15.458222 seconds
>Reading the file...1.055693 seconds
>IOZONE performance measurements:
> 542663 bytes/second for writing the file
> 7946067 bytes/second for reading the file
These stats indicate that you've got enough physical memory in your
system that Mach is able to cache the iozone test file, so reading it
back involves little or no disk I/O at all. Bump up the size of the
iozone test file, or run "iozone auto" to see it work its way through
a series of file sizes (topping out at 16MB).
If your system has enough RAM to cache a 16MB iozone test file, you
either have to forget the auto mode and hand feed a file size the way
you're doing now (try 32MB, 64MB, etc.), or else edit the source code,
increasing the value of the MEGABYTES_ITER_LIMIT #define.
Here's the iozone auto output from my black (not-Turbo) slab with a
Toshiba 1.2GB disk:
34 /Users/royce/src> iozone auto
IOZONE: Performance Test of Sequential File I/O -- V1.16 (10/28/92)
By Bill Norcott
Operating System: NeXT OS -- using fsync()
IOZONE: auto-test mode
MB reclen bytes/sec written bytes/sec read
1 512 440397 2369903
1 1024 440290 2863263
1 2048 440310 3069143
1 4096 440289 3342608
1 8192 440287 3516870
2 512 428168 2328740
2 1024 431728 2574415
2 2048 440793 3146661
2 4096 442343 2739530
2 8192 439256 3347943
4 512 434116 2146748
4 1024 441156 2764969
4 2048 441738 2766704
4 4096 435622 3263805
4 8192 441675 3173137
8 512 437876 431514
8 1024 426245 448214
8 2048 435158 441448
8 4096 431867 447680
8 8192 433730 444524
16 512 422168 427452
16 1024 419879 430383
16 2048 420757 430935
16 4096 420756 430391
16 8192 420757 430756
Completed series of tests
You can see that when iozone hit the 8MB file size, read performance
dropped by a huge amount. The 430K/sec is the real read performance
of my disk, whereas the nM/sec indicated read performance coming from
cache. Quite a difference. :~) Run "iozone help" for some comments
about cache.
Royce Howland
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: ProAudioSpectrum 16 - two problems, one solution
Message-ID: <Ct33FC.Ky0@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 12:16:23 GMT
Hi folks,
- anybody having problems playing sound on PAS16 using a PCI motherboard?
(sound is chopped apart and played repeatedly?).
The solution (which works for me) is to comment out line 233 in
/NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ProAudioSpectrum/ProAudioSpectrum_relo
c.tproj/ProAudioSpectrum.m
to make this line and the following look like:
/* if (transferWidth == IO_16BitByteCount) */
bufferSize /= 2;
This worked for me on an ASUS 486 and an ASUS Pentium motherboard.
- the problem remaining is: I can't record! When I record all I
get is silence :-(
Is there anybody out there who is able to record? Please mail
me your configuration info.
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kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: damonc@hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Compaq XE 560: Sound Problem & Other Tidbits
Date: 17 Jul 94 13:18:24
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <root.94Jul17131824@damonc>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Anyone able to get sound to work on a Compaq XE 560? Compaq claims the settingtings are DMA 1, IRQ 10, address 0534h, but this does not work for me. I have an Adaptec 1542CF and Intel TokenExpress 16 (ISA) and no luck.
However, when I use DMA 0 with the suggested IRQ, I get sound, but it repeats exactly 8 (eight) times. When I use DMA 0 and IRQ 7, I get sound that repeats EXACTLY 4 (four) times!
Anybody got this licked?
PS: I have overcome several other obstacles with this machine, after spending a couple hours on the phone with Compaq and NeXT, including recognition of memory over 16MB (no BIOS setting is available to switch to linear memory, like other Compaq models), "bounce" booting from IDE disk to SCSI and maintainance of two System.devices/Instance0.table files, etc...
Also note that the new Compaq mouse does NOT work with NEXTSTEP...have to get the older one (both are PS/2 style)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: Fimi going bad??????
Message-ID: <1994Jul17.212009.1562@iitmax.iit.edu>
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 94 21:20:09 GMT
Hello world,
I have a Turbo Color with a Fimi 17" monitor. The two vertical edges move
in a little and then snap back to where they belong. This happens
intermittently.
Is this monitor going bad or is it in need of a routine adjustment?
Any thoughts or descriptions of similiar experience would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris Conley
Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: Re: Fimi going bad??????
Message-ID: <1994Jul17.223401.8704@iitmax.iit.edu>
Summary: Now it won't turn on.....
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
References: <1994Jul17.212009.1562@iitmax.iit.edu>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 94 22:34:01 GMT
thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) (That's me) writes:
> Hello world,
>
> I have a Turbo Color with a Fimi 17" monitor. The two vertical edges move
> in a little and then snap back to where they belong. This happens
> intermittently.
>
> Is this monitor going bad or is it in need of a routine adjustment?
>
> Any thoughts or descriptions of similiar experience would be appreciated.
>
I just brought the monitor home to use my station there and now the monitor
won't even turn on.
Hosed? Power supply? Anybody want a dead fimi? Where can I buy a Nanao?
Thanks,
Chris Conley
Chicago
From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra XLR in 1024x768 16bpp
Date: 18 Jul 1994 00:42:10 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Message-ID: <30cj52$a8u@news1.svc.portal.com>
References: <30a736$7ma@news1.svc.portal.com>
In article <30a736$7ma@news1.svc.portal.com>,
Duane Takamine <duane@shell.portal.com> wrote:
> I am trying to get NS to start in 1024x768 16bpp mode with an
>ATI Ultra XLR (VLB) with 2megs of DRAM. The card will only startup in
>default VGA mode or 800x600 16bpp mode. Is there an incompatibility
>with the XLR and the regular Ultra Pro drivers?
> One thing I notice in my XLR manual is that apparently the XLR
Just following up on my own message, I just got the ATI 3.1 doc
from NeXTanswers which states that 3.1 and 3.2 drivers will only work
fo r the ATI XLR up to 800x600 in 16bpp. Does anyone know exactly what
the problem is with the XLR? If it is something uncorrectable through
drivers then I'm going to dump the card and find an Ultra Pro or maybe
wait on mach64 drivers and get the Mach64 card.
Duane
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From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Nanoa refresh rates
Date: 18 Jul 1994 00:55:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30cjt4$sbc@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I just realized that the NeXT driver for the new #9 pci card runs at 76 Hz @ 1024x768 and my
monitor is only supposed to run at 74 Hz at that resolution. Does anyone know if you can
run a Nanoa F550i (about 2 years old) at a 76 Hz rate even though its not rated for it? And
can it handle 1152 X 832 (or something like that) resolutions, I have never seen any mention
of support for that type of config.
Also, isn't 76 Hz kind of a high refresh rate for that resolution. I think only the most
recent monitors support such high rates.
John Stanhope
From: tvr@cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Tovar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Printer 'paper jam' problem
Date: 15 Jul 1994 04:35:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <TVR.94Jul14213532@cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU>
I looked and i see no FAQ here. So i guess i get to ask.
Has anyone else had problems with spurious 'paper jam' errors? There's
no paper anywhere i can see, and i can't figure out what senses jam. Is
it the clear thing that hangs down under slight spring tension, which is
most visible with the cartridge is removed? If so, how does one get at
its little microswitch (or whatever) to find out if the sensor is working
properly. Suggestions?
(Reply by e-mail if feasible, and i'll summarize for the net if warranted.
I hope i can give one of you kind folks credit for helping me fix this.)
-- Tovar
From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP, Dell's P90 and 1 gig enhanced IDE
Date: 18 Jul 1994 01:54:31 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30cncn$sg4@convex.cc.uky.edu>
References: <309380$brp@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Steve Muir writes
-> In <308l86$feg@convex.cc.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
writes:
-> >Well, I skipping the NeXTSTEP part, I can attest to the fact that a
Micronics
-> >Mp5i and a Micronics M2112A don't work together...this is a Pentium
motherboard
-> >and a 1G IDE drive which can look like on big one, or two 500Meg ones...it
find
-> >the parameters...but doesn't work...I beleive it to be the Phoenix BIOS,
since
-> >the drive fails no matter what IDE controller I use, but works okay in
other
-> >machines....
-> >--
->
-> John,
->
-> Don't know if you read my post about a week ago about this... In order for
your
-> 1GB IDE to be seen as 1 partition in *any* OS (NS, DOS, whatever) your
motherboard
-> MUST support the new enhanced IDE spec. Based on our experience with
Micronics/
-> Phoenix I'd have to guess that you're outta luck with that board. As far as
NS
-> is concerned though, it doesn't look like any combination is gonna work. We
use
-> the Intel Plato motherboards in the Pentium 90 NS machines we sell and they
support
-> enhanced IDE (using LBA) which will allow you to fdisk and format a 1GB
partition
-> under DOS but NS is another story. During the build, NS will return a 'dup
CPU
-> alloc' error every time while laying down the partition. Based on that
error, is
-> there a workaround or something we're missing?
->
-> Steve
Well, the Micronics manual says it does support the Enhanced standard,
but the drive operates in a "dual" mode which makes it look like two small
drives...I have tried it with some really old/cheap IDE controllers and it
works fine...
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From: seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin)
Subject: Dell XPS90.. Anyone try this combination?
Message-ID: <Ct48Gp.LKB@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 03:02:48 GMT
Im looking at the following combination:
XPS90
32MB RAM
540MB IDE
Number 9GXE64 Pro (1152x864x24)
Intel Ethernet Card
Pro Audio Studio
Adaptec 1542CF (limited use for CD-ROM)
Sony CDU561 or Apple CD300
Im using the Intel and Pro Audio cards in a DEC 560ST with no problems..
I expect that the serial ports wont work as the serial chip on the P54C
motherboards is buggy. Im curious if there are any problems with either
CD-ROM drives, as Im using a DEC RRD42 (not in CDU541 mode) which does all
the basics. Im curious if the two drives above would NeXTtime and PhotoCD
correctly.
The goal is a box to run IB and a few apps which would tax the DPS and
Renderman side of things. Any advice or ideas are appreciated. -Steve
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Message-ID: <Ct46z3.60u@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <1994Jul16.131652.8549@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 02:30:39 GMT
In article <1994Jul16.131652.8549@midway.uchicago.edu> ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E.
Larry Lidz) writes:
| Does anyone know what hardware will be supported by NS3.3? Will it be the
| current list for 3.2 that is avalible on ftp.next.com, or are they going to
| be adding even more support? If it is the latter, does anyone know when they
| will be releasing the list of supported hardware?
| (I am planning on upgrading to NS/Fip, but I'm waiting on some of the
| hardware until I know what will be supported by 3.3)
| Thanks,
| -Larry.
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I heard they wanna include more than 50 drivers. I hope this is true,
it was a rumour on the net a week ago.
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
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From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Message-ID: <Ct3u3F.Lr9@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
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References: <30bgqp$je5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 21:52:27 GMT
In article <30bgqp$je5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes:
> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
>
> >IOZONE performance measurements:
> > 542663 bytes/second for writing the file
> > 7946067 bytes/second for reading the file
>
> These stats indicate that you've got enough physical memory in your
> system that Mach is able to cache the iozone test file, so reading it
> back involves little or no disk I/O at all. Bump up the size of the
> iozone test file, or run "iozone auto" to see it work its way through
> a series of file sizes (topping out at 16MB).
>
[...]
>
> Here's the iozone auto output from my black (not-Turbo) slab with a
> Toshiba 1.2GB disk:
[...]
> MB reclen bytes/sec written bytes/sec read
[...]
> 16 8192 420757 430756
> Completed series of tests
>
> You can see that when iozone hit the 8MB file size, read performance
> dropped by a huge amount. The 430K/sec is the real read performance
> of my disk, whereas the nM/sec indicated read performance coming from
> cache. Quite a difference. :~) Run "iozone help" for some comments
> about cache.
OK. The Toshiba is slow. Even slower on Black Hardware :-)
But what about a read performance of ca. 1.3 MB/sec and a write
performance of ca. 350 KB/sec with Talus and NCR53C810 on a harddrive
which performs nearly at 700 KB/sec write with Adaptec/Linux?
I did iozone 40, having 16 MB physical RAM, so nothing about buffering...
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From: jgates@netcom.com (Jeffrey K. Gates)
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Message-ID: <jgatesCt4FsK.F1E@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <3094rk$ber@alf.uib.no>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 05:41:07 GMT
Currently I run 4 712/60. They are very simple machines to configure.
1. I would use HP ram.
2. The 712 use 1/2 hight 31/2" hard drive. There is room for two
drives if you don't get the 31/2" floppy drive.
3. The 712 has a built in video port which uses svga 1280x1024.
So, any high end PC video will work.
If you get Next Step to work let me know. The Co. I work for
wants us to load Next Step on one of the Gecko's.
Thanks
Jeff
From: cosc19vt@marge.cc.uh.edu (Wladislaw Szwab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help: NeXT SCSI drivers ?
Date: 18 Jul 1994 07:40:25 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <30dbl9$q8f@masala.cc.uh.edu>
I am running a triple boot configuration:
NeXT 3.2
DOS 6.2 / Windows 3.1
OS2/2.2
on a 486/DX2/66 VLB with a 540 MB IDE as a primary (NeXT, DOS,
OS2 on it) and 2 Maxtor 340s as secondaries (DOS) off a Promise
Technology DriveCache DC-2040.
My problem is that NeXT does not support the SCSI controller and
therefore does not see my drives. It cannot even access the DOS
partition of the primary IDE. I cannot understand why.
I was thinking of getting a VLB BusLogic SCSI controller or
somehow making NeXT see my Promise controller.
Questions:
1. Is the BusLogic supported and how well ? Does anybody have
experience with one ?
2. Where can I get drivers for my Promise controller for
NeXT ?
Thanks, any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
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From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: Anyone have a summary of what components work with what?
Message-ID: <Ct4qp5.Ftp@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Summary: intel, toshiba, future domain, etc.
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:36:40 GMT
folks,
one of the things i'm fast discovering in this PC-based NeXT
environment is that you have a lot more options for configuration
than one does with SUNs. hence, i was wondering if anyone out
there has compiled a list of what drivers/components/etc. work
with what? here's my contribution - future domain SCSI cards
are nogo with NeXT (to the best of my knowledge, of course).
thanx in advance,
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From: jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James A. McGilvray)
Subject: Disklabel for Fujitsu 2263S-1024?
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.122426.29980@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:24:26 GMT
Hi,
Subject says most of it.
I checked the Sun archives without success. If you have a label or know
where to get it (Fujitsu phone/e-mail/etc.), please help me out.
Thanks,
Jim
(NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James A. McGilvray)
Subject: Re: Disklabel for Fujitsu 2263S-1024?
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.123916.935@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <1994Jul18.122426.29980@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:39:16 GMT
In article <1994Jul18.122426.29980@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> jim@philo.mcgill.ca
(James A. McGilvray) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Subject says most of it.
>
> I checked the Sun archives without success. If you have a label or know
> where to get it (Fujitsu phone/e-mail/etc.), please help me out.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> (NeXT mail welcome)
I meant, of course, a disktab for this drive. Sorry about the extra
bandwidth.
Jim
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Message-ID: <8177@darmstadt.gmd.de>
Date: 18 Jul 94 12:41:49 GMT
References: <30bgqp$je5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <Ct3u3F.Lr9@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de
Organization: German National Research Center for IT
I already thought that I was the only one experiencing this..
Axel Habermann (kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de) wrote:
>In article <30bgqp$je5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
>dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes:
>> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
>>
>> >IOZONE performance measurements:
>> > 542663 bytes/second for writing the file
>> > 7946067 bytes/second for reading the file
>>[slow write performance, buffers, etc.]
Unfortunately I get the same speed measurements like Axel:
>But what about a read performance of ca. 1.3 MB/sec and a write
>performance of ca. 350 KB/sec with Talus and NCR53C810 on a harddrive
>which performs nearly at 700 KB/sec write with Adaptec/Linux?
I get _exactly_ the same performance rates, and can confirm the thing about
the performance with Linux, too (friend of mine has the same drive).
Writing (paging) with the Talus driver is a pain. You can almost 'feel' that
the kernel is completely hogged during write transfers - try to uncompress
3 files at once and the whole machine comes to a grinding halt.
>I did iozone 40, having 16 MB physical RAM, so nothing about buffering...
Same here.
So, what can we do ? I already mailed to Talus, and also got a reply from
one of their engineers - but he just told me that SCSI real world performance
is generally different from the drive/controller specs. As if I didn't know
that already.
Maybe we should forward this to bugs@talus.com (Mr. Sarich?) ?
For a driver that cost me quite a 'few' $$$, this qualifies for a 'bug'.
Regards,
Holger
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From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Date: 18 Jul 1994 12:47:21 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <30dtkp$t24@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <30bgqp$je5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <Ct3u3F.Lr9@belly.in-berlin.de>
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
>But what about a read performance of ca. 1.3 MB/sec and a write
>performance of ca. 350 KB/sec with Talus and NCR53C810 on a harddrive
>which performs nearly at 700 KB/sec write with Adaptec/Linux?
>I did iozone 40, having 16 MB physical RAM, so nothing about buffering...
Well, you've got me there. Something clearly isn't working well.
Even my slow Toshiba on my slow slab shows a better write benchmark
with iozone than you get with the NCR/Talus setup. It seems weird
that a driver would provide writes at only 25% of the rate of reads.
One other thing to try would be running iozone while you're booted
in single user mode. Get rid of all of the extra overhead of NS,
and maybe the benchmark will improve a little. Still, that doesn't
help performance while you're in NS. One thing is for sure, I
wouldn't want to try running NS/FIP with only 16MB. But I don't
know if that could cause disk I/O trouble, too (iozone contending
with system swapping?)...
Royce Howland
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: miro Crystal 20SD driver
Date: 18 Jul 1994 14:00:07 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <30e1t7$aju@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <2v9ak3$fhj@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <5WzRqUx.adv2000@delphi.com>
adv2000@delphi.com wrote:
: <u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw> writes:
:
: >
:
: Miro Has them on its BBS, the 20SD drivers are bugy and Miro should do more
: work on them. You can also get them from Advance 200 us at Advance 2000 (Brian
: M) but loadind them at the present time can corrupt you drive.
I am in the process of purchasing a 20SD to run NeXTSTEP and I am quite
interested in what problems you have seen with the miro 20SD.
If you would please elaborate!
Thanks, Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Nanoa refresh rates
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <30cjt4$sbc@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 14:44:00 GMT
In article <30cjt4$sbc@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@mail.vt.edu writes:
>
>I just realized that the NeXT driver for the new #9 pci card runs at 76 Hz @ 1024x768 and my
>monitor is only supposed to run at 74 Hz at that resolution. Does anyone know if you can
>run a Nanoa F550i (about 2 years old) at a 76 Hz rate even though its not rated for it? And
>can it handle 1152 X 832 (or something like that) resolutions, I have never seen any mention
>of support for that type of config.
>
>Also, isn't 76 Hz kind of a high refresh rate for that resolution. I think only the most
>recent monitors support such high rates.
I do know that the Nanao T660i handles 1280x1024 @ 76Mhz perfectly.
A better monitor, I have not yet seen...
I have submitted a suggestion to NeXT that they provide some more useful
refresh rates for the #9 other than 60, and 76MHz. One is too low to be
useful, and the other requires that you buy a multi-thousand dollar
monitor.
- db
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From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Adaptec 1542s booting from 1
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.151040.3868@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:10:40 GMT
I would like to set up our intel machine the same way as our black
hardware with the internal drive at 1. That way we can "boot under it" by
putting an external at address 0. Does anyone know of a way to make this
work with a 1542B or any other adaptec card? Currently , mine seems to
only want to boot from device 0.
The whole reason for this that we want to run 3.3 beta without nuking a
production disk.
<joe>
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Date: 18 Jul 1994 08:49:12 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <30dc5o$10b@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <30adun$af9@eps.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) writes:
>I just ran iozone on my 90mhz Pentium box and was wondering if anyone can
>explain why I am getting good read access but poor write..
>Outout from iozone:
>eps> iozone 8
>Writing the 8 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...15.458222 seconds
>Reading the file...1.055693 seconds
>IOZONE performance measurements:
> 542663 bytes/second for writing the file
> 7946067 bytes/second for reading the file
I'd say it is not that bad. My results with a DPT 2022 EISA and a DEC
DSP3053L are:
Writing the 8 Megabyte file, '/tmp/testfile'...9.236235 seconds
Reading the file...1.561517 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
1249496 bytes/second for writing the file
5333241 bytes/second for reading the file
So write throughput is generally much lower than read.
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Problem with Doom and MSW Sound System
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.170214.5518@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:02:14 GMT
I know this isn't really the place to post this, but I thought somebody here
might have had this problem (and overcome it).
I am having a problem getting sound effects in Doom to work with the MSW Sound
System sound board. I have tried numerous configurations using the MS-DOS
SoundBlaster emulator with several different IRQ settings. I also running Doom
from windows, but no luck there either. Oddly enough, the music does work
correctly (from DOS), just no digitized sound effects :-(.
Has anybody successfully gotten this combination to work?
As a side note, I have the same problem with Rebel Assult except that it will
work from within Windows using the Rebel2 batch file. Unfortunately, there is
a consistent clicking noise during any sounds or music.
BTW: This is in a P90 system with 32MB RAM so memory is not a concern (at
least total memory, not system available memory).
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From: smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov (Howard C. Smith)
Subject: Next Laser Printer FAQ?
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.172715.21117@alw.nih.gov>
Keywords: printer bugs gear worn
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:27:15 GMT
I've started seeing continued paper jams on several Next 400dpi
printers around here lately. The paper feed rollers seem to have
problems on the entry and exit of each page.
Has anyone else seen this? Is this related to the
"worn printer gear" syndrome? Is there a FAQ to read before
I disassemble the works? Thanks!
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From: smuir@ix.netcom.com (Steve Muir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: miro Crystal 20SD driver
Date: 18 Jul 1994 18:06:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30egau$bu5@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <30e1t7$aju@uuneo.neosoft.com> dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) writes:
>I am in the process of purchasing a 20SD to run NeXTSTEP and I am quite
>interested in what problems you have seen with the miro 20SD.
>
>If you would please elaborate!
>
>Thanks, Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
>
I would be very wary of using a 20SD PCI for use with NS. Someone in the know
(who must remain nameless) told us last week that the 20SD, in its current state,
is not fully PCI 2.0 compliant. Caveat emptor!!!
Steve
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From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Disklabel for Fujitsu 2263S-1024?
Message-ID: <Ct5Fxn.8zw@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <1994Jul18.123916.935@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 18:41:45 GMT
In article <1994Jul18.123916.935@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James
A. McGilvray) writes:
> I meant, of course, a disktab for this drive. Sorry about the extra
> bandwidth.
I'm wondering why you need a disktab for this drive.
I've plugged Fujitsus into NeXT, and they work,
without a disktab installed.
--
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From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Date: 18 Jul 94 18:35:11 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.774556511@budlight>
References: <1994Jul16.131652.8549@midway.uchicago.edu>
ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes:
>Does anyone know what hardware will be supported by NS3.3? Will it be the
>current list for 3.2 that is avalible on ftp.next.com, or are they going to
>be adding even more support?
Rumor sez 8bit color support - that means color on Laptops.
Three cheers!
Chris
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: MS Bus mouse - it works (sort of)
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.191510.6720@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:15:10 GMT
I just wanted to add my experiences to the problems people (and NeXT) have had
using a MS Bus mouse with NEXTSTEP. First off, I am currently using a MS Bus
mouse with my P90 NEXTSTEP system. I bought it with NEXTSTEP installed and the
mouse just worked. I then decided to repartition so I could have a little fun
in DOS (Doom anyone? ;-). When trying to reinstall NEXTSTEP I ran into the
problem. When selecting the packages to install, most of the time, the mouse
was unresponsive. Every once in a while, while moving the mouse it would move
to another corner of the screen. Somehow, one time I was able to "catch" (I
don't know how I managed to do it.) the cursor in the middle of the screen and
gain control of it long enough to click on my packages and install the user
version. Once the system was installed, I logged in as root and selected the
bus mouse driver and everything worked fine from there.
It would appear that there is a problem with the mouse autodetect in NeXT's
boot drivers when it is looking for both bus and serial mice. I was fortunate
enough to be able to use the mouse enough to install the system, but I imagine
that if you install with a serial mouse and then select the bus mouse driver
(and then install a bus mouse in your system BEFORE you reboot) you shouldn't
have a problem.
Let me know if anyone else is able to do this or if my setup is just a fluke.
Happy mousing...
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Ultimate NEXTSTEP sound card
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.192403.6859@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:24:03 GMT
I am looking for the ultimate NEXTSTEP sound card. Well, really I want to be
able to play Doom and have sounds in NEXTSTEP without the problems people seem
to have with the PAS.
I have a PCI/ISA board with a DPT 2021 ISA SCSI controller. I suppose the PAS
would be an option when I eventually upgrade to a PCI controller (hopefully a
DPT caching PCI controller), but right now I have to deal with having an ISA
SCSI board. I currently have a MSW Sound System board, which doesn't work too
bad in NEXTSTEP, but doesn't work with Doom (as well as having problems with
its SB emulation with several other games). I also wouldn't mind having a
board that had wavetable synthesis as well. It looks like the new Mediatrix
card might fit the bill. I have heard good things about its MS emulation in
NEXTSTEP, but how does it work in DOS/Windows? What types of emulation does it
provide (SB16???)?
Thanks for your help...
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From: lodge@owlnet.rice.edu (David John Lodge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,bit.listserv.next-l
Subject: Fair Market Value
Date: 18 Jul 1994 19:51:33 GMT
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30emg5$k2f@larry.rice.edu>
Keywords: price next
Would anyone out there be able to tell me what the fair market value of a
Next Station Mono 400 and a Next 400 dpi Laser Printer might be. A friend of
mine is trying to find out what the value of these two items might be on today's market.
Thanks,
Dave Lodge
--
Das ist nicht todt, was Zeit nicht kann verderben;
Nach fremden Altern kann der Tod selbst sterben.
-- Nach der Nekronomikonuebersetzung von Olaus Wormius
lodge@rice.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:43:35 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30ephn$jtt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <jgatesCt4FsK.F1E@netcom.com>
In article <jgatesCt4FsK.F1E@netcom.com> jgates@netcom.com (Jeffrey K.
Gates) writes:
> 1. I would use HP ram.
Why? I know some distributors are selling these machines with cheaper
third party RAM as an option.
> 3. The 712 has a built in video port which uses svga 1280x1024.
> So, any high end PC video will work.
NO! The default is 10xx by 7xx (1024 x 768 ??). You have to buy extra
VRAM to get 1280 x 1024.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nanoa refresh rates
Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:46:07 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
> I do know that the Nanao T660i handles 1280x1024 @ 76Mhz perfectly.
> A better monitor, I have not yet seen...
My 21" Viewsonic does 1280 x 1024 @ 74 Hz and has a sharp 0.25 mm dot
pitch. It is one heck of a lot cheaper than the corresponding Nanao.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: hugunin@mtl.mit.edu (James Hugunin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel: Removing NeXTSTEP from IDE Drive
Date: 18 Jul 1994 21:40:46 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <30essu$kno@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I recently installed NeXTSTEP on a Dell Dimension P90. I first tried to
install it on the internal 540MB hard drive, before reading here that this
IDE drive is too large for NeXTSTEP. Now, whenever I try to boot the
computer using this IDE drive it tries to do a NeXTSTEP boot, and when it
doesn't find NeXTSTEP installed it just hangs. Reformatting and
repartitioning the drive fail to fix this problem.
Does anybody know how to completely wipe NeXTSTEP from an IDE drive?
Thanks!
---
Jim Hugunin---hugunin@mit.edu
NanoStructures Laboratory-MIT
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From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Subject: How to Print to Apple Laserwriter ?
Message-ID: <1994Jul18.160535.3957@scott.skidmore.edu>
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 16:05:35 GMT
Our one and only NeXT printer is now on the blink. We do happen to have
apple talk in our building (in addition to ethernet) and I'm wondering how
to print to our laserprinter down the hall. Anybody know a product that
would allow very easy attachment to apple talk ...for printing use ?
Thanks
Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (neXT mail OK)
or
tholland@scott.skidmore.edu
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: miro Crystal 20SD driver
Date: 18 Jul 1994 22:46:14 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30f0nm$a7o@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <30egau$bu5@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Steve Muir (smuir@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <30e1t7$aju@uuneo.neosoft.com> dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue) writes:
: >I am in the process of purchasing a 20SD to run NeXTSTEP and I am quite
: >interested in what problems you have seen with the miro 20SD.
: >
: >If you would please elaborate!
: >
: >Thanks, Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
: >
: I would be very wary of using a 20SD PCI for use with NS. Someone in the know
: (who must remain nameless) told us last week that the 20SD, in its current state,
: is not fully PCI 2.0 compliant. Caveat emptor!!!
: Steve
The 20SD I just ordered is a VESA local bus (not PCI). I hope the warnings
are wrt PCI and not the miro 20SD in particular.
Dan
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel: Removing NeXTSTEP from IDE Drive
Date: 18 Jul 1994 22:54:51 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <30f17r$a7o@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <30essu$kno@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
James Hugunin (hugunin@mtl.mit.edu) wrote:
: I recently installed NeXTSTEP on a Dell Dimension P90. I first tried to
: install it on the internal 540MB hard drive, before reading here that this
: IDE drive is too large for NeXTSTEP. Now, whenever I try to boot the
The answer to the question is to type FDISK /MBR under DOS to Modify Boot
Record.
What do you mean the 540MB hard drive IDE is too large for NeXTSTEP ?
I am about to install NeXTSTEP on a Maxtor 540MB drive. Am I in for a
suprise? I know NeXTSTEP has had (has??) problems accessing DOS partitions
larger than 32MB but did not know there where problems with NeXTSTEP and
the 540MB limit. BTW I do have the drive configured to use only 1024
cylinders which loses about 16MB to avoid the brain dead way the BIOS boots
up. The Maxtor drive has a jumper specifically to set the drive to report
only 1024 cyliners to the BIOS. This will currently work with DOS or Linux
and I'll be suprised if there will be a problem with NeXTSTEP.
Dan
From: dsinn@coho.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ALR Q-SMP and NeXTSTEP Intel
Date: 18 Jul 1994 23:43:23 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <30f42r$s15@nwfocus.wa.com>
Will NeXTSTEP Intel operate on ALR's Q-SMP (up to 4 Pentium
processors) system? Will it exploit the Multi-Processor architecture?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
David Sinn
dsinn@halcyon.com
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From: clark@bruce.nist.gov
Subject: MegaPixel Color Monitor going bad ?
Message-ID: <Ct5o6w.Lst@nist.gov>
Sender: news@nist.gov
Organization: NIST
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:40:07 GMT
My MegaPixel 17" Color Monitor, stock equipment for the
color NeXTStation, manufactured March 1991, may be going bad.
When cold, much of the active area is black, and when fully
warm there's still some distortion at the bottom of the screen,
which appears to worsen with time.
Has anyone else had this problem and solved it ?
--
Charles W. Clark
Electron and Optical Physics Division
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Gaithersburg, MD 20899 USA
From: damonc@hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ALR Q-SMP and NeXTSTEP Intel
Date: 18 Jul 94 21:27:57
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
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Steve Jobs said at the Expo that NEXTSTEP *will* support Intel's SMP standard, among other things (PCI, PLUG-AND-PLAY, etc, etc)...
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@hookup.net
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From: jcassidy@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Jim Cassidy)
Subject: Driver to User interface
Message-ID: <Ct612D.6AF@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 02:18:12 GMT
Greetings all:
I have the foundation for a driver working. It loads and I can
verify this by IOLog messages and getcharvalue messages..
I would like to have this driver toss the contents of the card
that it is supposed to support (64K) into a user supplied buffer and
visa versa.
The documentation describes interfacing to user level programs via
either mach messages or UNIX entry points. Which is considdered the
simplist technique? Are any other techniques available?
Thanks for any assistance!
Jim.
jcassidy@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca
From: michaelwe@aol.com (MichaelWe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Looking for Hardware Info
Date: 18 Jul 1994 23:17:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Hi. My name is Todd McQueston. I recently became a new NeXTStep user at
work and now I'm looking to bring it home. I am currently on my friend's
account (getting my own soon), but if you know any information that will
help me, please respond to MichaelWe@aol.com
I have limited funds to buy an Intel-based system to run NeXTStep. I am
looking for a store or salesman who can intelligently talk to me about the
approved Hardware list from NeXTAnswers and can come up with a decent
configuration.
I live outside Philadelphia (Malvern), but am willing to call anyone,
anywhere.
Thanks for any info you can provide.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Date: 19 Jul 1994 05:29:08 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30fob4$4h@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <neuss.774556511@budlight>
In article <neuss.774556511@budlight> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
writes:
> Rumor sez 8bit color support - that means color on Laptops.
> Three cheers!
Not a rumor, NEC has a driver for it's 8-bit color notebook
computer (75MHz DX4) running NEXTSTEP/Intel. I saw it at
the Expo, and it looked quite reasonable for 8-bit color.
Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP is just not visually designed
with good 640x480 screen resolution support, and I find
it too painful to use for more than a moment.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: tvr@cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Tovar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer FAQ?
Date: 19 Jul 1994 06:01:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <TVR.94Jul18230130@cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU>
References: <1994Jul18.172715.21117@alw.nih.gov>
In-reply-to: smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov's message of Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:27:15 GMT
I've started seeing continued paper jams on several Next 400dpi
printers around here lately. The paper feed rollers seem to have
problems on the entry and exit of each page.
OK, so i'm not the only one looking at paper jam troubles. I've not gotten
any e-mail response to my earlier query, so given there seems to be at least
one other interested party, please post so we'll know when there's an answer.
Is there a FAQ to read before I disassemble the works?
Good question, which might be answered by posting said document. Sorry if
i'm asking a newbie-type question...
-- Tovar
From: smuir@ix.netcom.com (Steve Muir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nanoa refresh rates
Date: 19 Jul 1994 05:18:42 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30fnni$pit@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <30epmf$jvm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
>
>In article <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
>(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>
>> I do know that the Nanao T660i handles 1280x1024 @ 76Mhz perfectly.
>> A better monitor, I have not yet seen...
>
>My 21" Viewsonic does 1280 x 1024 @ 74 Hz and has a sharp 0.25 mm dot
>pitch. It is one heck of a lot cheaper than the corresponding Nanao.
>
IDEK/Iiyama makes several 21" monitors ranging from .25 to .28dp and all with
125MHz+ bandwidth, meaning they're capable of 1280 res @ 80Hz (assuming you
have a proper driver, of course). Also much cheaper than Nanao...
Steve
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Date: 19 Jul 1994 07:04:48 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <30ftug$dt3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <30bgqp$je5@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> <Ct3u3F.Lr9@belly.in-berlin.de> <8177@darmstadt.gmd.de>
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hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
>Axel Habermann (kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de) wrote:
>>But what about a read performance of ca. 1.3 MB/sec and a write
>>performance of ca. 350 KB/sec with Talus and NCR53C810 on a harddrive
>>which performs nearly at 700 KB/sec write with Adaptec/Linux?
>I get _exactly_ the same performance rates, and can confirm the thing about
>the performance with Linux, too (friend of mine has the same drive).
>Writing (paging) with the Talus driver is a pain. You can almost 'feel' that
>the kernel is completely hogged during write transfers - try to uncompress
>3 files at once and the whole machine comes to a grinding halt.
>>I did iozone 40, having 16 MB physical RAM, so nothing about buffering...
Just for comparison, a prototype object.station with the smaller/slower
driver got ~1.4 MB/s reading and 700KB/s *copying*.(Copy is read + write).
Marcel
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Date: 19 Jul 1994 01:11:27 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <30g1rf$c9h@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <jgatesCt4FsK.F1E@netcom.com> <30ephn$jtt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Todd Takken writes:
>> 3. The 712 has a built in video port which uses svga 1280x1024.
>> So, any high end PC video will work.
>NO! The default is 10xx by 7xx (1024 x 768 ??). You have to buy extra
>VRAM to get 1280 x 1024.
I've been told that if you buy a monitor > 15" in your initial system, you
get the extra VRAM included. Certainly the price list I have seems to
imply this (eg, there is no separate pricing for VRAM).
BTW, if you're a developer, be SURE to call HP's developer program and
get the massive discount. I don't think I can quote the rate, but it
basically makes buying any other machine insane.
-Wil
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From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: More on what works with what, and comparisons ...
Message-ID: <Ct6Lp6.D1F@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Summary: between SUN and NeXT sysadmin...
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:43:53 GMT
folks,
i wasn't very clear in my last posting of what works with what.
yes, i do know about the hardware compatibility list available
from NeXT, and yes, i've found it very useful.
what i was really looking for was real-life experiences with
putting together different hardware components, and which config
turned out to be optimal. for example, i have a PC, b adapter
cards, c video boards, etc., and i want my system to hummm along
like the concorde. or possibly, i've been sent on-site to
configure a NeXT out of a Tandy 1000SX and ductTape (a la'
macgyver) - can one develop a 'feel' for workable hardware
combinations?
on another note, transitioning from a command line interface
(SUN 4.x admin) to a GUI is rather interesting. has anyone ever
put together a comparison list for equivilent commands between
both systems? (ie, to mount a disk on a SUN, you'd type
something like 'mount /dev/fd0 /pcfs', but on NeXT you'd
use the 'Mount Disk' command from your workspace...
thanx in advance,
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From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel)
Subject: need help with Epson laser and Black
Message-ID: <1994Jul19.024607.13011@cs.rit.edu>
Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin)
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 02:46:07 GMT
I have recently had time to sit down and make a serial cable for my
Epson EPL 7500 laserprinter (real postscript) to my Next Station.
The printer supports XON/XOFF and DTR or both, so I made the
68040 to device (with DTR) cable listed in the book and it doesn't work.
The printer shows no signs of life, but when switched back into
appletalk mode, it works fine on the network. (I have printed
to it via serial using a PC).
I tried toggling the hardware handshaking option in printmanager, but
no luck.
Any help would be most welcome.
thanks
Harry
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens Hoerup Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: I cant initiate my new harddisk
Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:35:45 GMT
Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University
Message-ID: <30ep31$hso@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>
Hi,
I have just bought a new Hitachi 1Gb 3.5" harddisk, but I cant initiate
it. When I boot my black NeXTStation Color, it ask me to initiate the new
disk, but when I try, I get the following error (from Console log):
/usr/etc/disk -i -h localhost -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 1
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 2
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 3
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 4
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 5
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 6
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 7
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 8
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 9
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 10
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 11
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 12
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 13
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 14
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 15
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 16
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 17
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 18
Target 4: NOT READY; retry 19
sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x2 additional sense code:0x31
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
Read of sector 0 failed
Please give me some help, because I think, that the drive is ok, but not
formated.
Thanks in advance.
Jens Hoerup Jensen
Denmark.
jhj@dator.dk
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: miro Crystal 20SD driver
Date: 19 Jul 1994 07:38:29 -0400
Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Message-ID: <30gdvl$9qn@great-miami.iac.net>
References: <2v9ak3$fhj@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <5WzRqUx.adv2000@delphi.com> <30e1t7$aju@uuneo.neosoft.com>
Dan Logue (dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com) wrote:
: adv2000@delphi.com wrote:
: : <u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw> writes:
: :
: : >
: :
: : Miro Has them on its BBS, the 20SD drivers are bugy and Miro should do more
: : work on them. You can also get them from Advance 200 us at Advance 2000 (Brian
: : M) but loadind them at the present time can corrupt you drive.
: I am in the process of purchasing a 20SD to run NeXTSTEP and I am quite
: interested in what problems you have seen with the miro 20SD.
: If you would please elaborate!
: Thanks, Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
Where can the Miro cards be purchased from? We have a customer who
needs one.
--
Brick Eksten
Digital Processing Systems
brick@iac.net
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nanoa refresh rates
Date: 19 Jul 1994 07:54:23 -0400
Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Message-ID: <30getf$9rd@great-miami.iac.net>
References: <30cjt4$sbc@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: In article <30cjt4$sbc@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@mail.vt.edu writes:
: >
: >I just realized that the NeXT driver for the new #9 pci card runs at 76 Hz @ 1024x768 and my
: >monitor is only supposed to run at 74 Hz at that resolution. Does anyone know if you can
: >run a Nanoa F550i (about 2 years old) at a 76 Hz rate even though its not rated for it? And
: >can it handle 1152 X 832 (or something like that) resolutions, I have never seen any mention
: >of support for that type of config.
: >
: >Also, isn't 76 Hz kind of a high refresh rate for that resolution. I think only the most
: >recent monitors support such high rates.
: I do know that the Nanao T660i handles 1280x1024 @ 76Mhz perfectly.
: A better monitor, I have not yet seen...
: I have submitted a suggestion to NeXT that they provide some more useful
: refresh rates for the #9 other than 60, and 76MHz. One is too low to be
: useful, and the other requires that you buy a multi-thousand dollar
: monitor.
: - db
Thats 76Hz, not 76 MHz. :)
To calculate the given bandwith of a monitor:
Horizontal bandwith = refresh * vertical resolution * retrace
so xxKhz = 76 * 768 * 1.25 (for the #9 card at 1024x768)
which is around 73khz of bandwith. too much for a F550i but it will work
on a T560i (that would be the monitor you are looking for that is better
than the T660 i ;^) )
Brick
--
Brick Eksten
Digital Processing Systems
brick@iac.net
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From: markus@arlac.rhein-main.de (Markus Felten)
Subject: Trying to connect Apple QuickTake camera with a NS system
Message-ID: <1994Jul19.110157.9278@arlac.rhein-main.de>
Sender: markus@arlac.rhein-main.de
Organization: MF
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 11:01:57 GMT
Keywords: QuickTake,NeXT
Distribution: world
I am searching for an Apple QuickTake camera driver.
I'd like to connect the camera with a NeXTstation or NSI - system.
Is there any software (driver) available yet?
Is someone working on it?
Any help is welcome
Thanks,
Markus
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 22:32:24 -0400
From: Stanley Wong <nextwave!champ!stan@epas.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <9407190232.AA02765@champ>
Subject: 1542CF and cdroms
I have an Adaptec 1542CF and a NEC CDR-74-1 SCSI-2 cdrom. It works fine, however I
do notice that it seems to poll the drive if there is no cd in the drive. It will do this once
every 1/2 second. Once I put a cd in the drive the polling goes away. At work with a
1542CF and the NeXT cdrom drive (sony) it doesn't seem to poll the drive (at least I
cannot tell) if there is no cd in the drive. In another machine we have the DPT 2022 EISA
with a Toshiba 3301 and it does not seem to poll the cdrom when there is no cd in the
drive.
So, is it natural for the Adaptec driver to "poll" if there is no cd in the drive?
Both Adaptec cards are using the NeXT's 1542 driver Update 1 and the DPT is using the
DPT 2000 Beta driver from NeXT.
Any information appreciated.
stan
---
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From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: miro Crystal 20SD driver
Date: 19 Jul 1994 13:38:55 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <30gl1f$n6a@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <2v9ak3$fhj@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <5WzRqUx.adv2000@delphi.com> <30e1t7$aju@uuneo.neosoft.com> <30gdvl$9qn@great-miami.iac.net>
Brick Eksten (brick@iac.net) wrote:
: Dan Logue (dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com) wrote:
: : adv2000@delphi.com wrote:
: : : <u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw> writes:
: : :
: : : >
: : :
: : : Miro Has them on its BBS, the 20SD drivers are bugy and Miro should do more
: : : work on them. You can also get them from Advance 200 us at Advance 2000 (Brian
: : : M) but loadind them at the present time can corrupt you drive.
: : I am in the process of purchasing a 20SD to run NeXTSTEP and I am quite
: : interested in what problems you have seen with the miro 20SD.
: : If you would please elaborate!
: : Thanks, Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
: Where can the Miro cards be purchased from? We have a customer who
: needs one.
Miro Computer Products (800) 249-6476
The 20SD is $299. (The 16si is their old model with the S3-805 instead of
the newer S3-864/964 chip and costs $379.) They also have a 20SV (VRAM) I
don't know how much that is.
Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Drive access LED on a DPT 2021
Message-ID: <1994Jul19.145250.14054@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 14:52:50 GMT
I have an LED connected to the LED connector on my DPT 2021 SCSI controller.
In DOS, the LED works fine, coming on during HD accesses. But, in NEXTSTEP, it
doesn't ever come on? Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is it
possibly a driver problem that may be fixed with the driver update?
Thanks...
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Zenon problems . . . solved!!!
Date: 19 Jul 1994 09:31:04 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <30grjo$ecj@u.cc.utah.edu>
Zenon shipped me a Plato motherboard with an onboard chipset that solved
all of the earlier problems I had had with their machine. NXBench now
reports a score of 1.76, with MIPS unchanged at 80 at over 125000
dhrystones.
Mind you that I bought a Pentium 90 machine, with 16 MBs RAM, 512K cache,
a Number Nine GXE64 Pro 2 MB card, a 525 MB Quantum SCSI disk, an NCR
53C810 SCSI controller, keyboard and mouse, 16C550 UARTs, and MAG
Innovision 17F for $3550, including shipping. The price should drop by about
$110 after deleting 256K cache (the Plato goes only to 256K) and the
16C550 UARTs (as the Plato includes them on the motherboard).
You'll want to talk to Eric Chen, ext. 210, at Zenon at +1 800 899 6119.
Don't bother with tech support there. They won't be able to help you at all.
...........................kris
From: kiwi@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: iozone + Talus Driver (NCR 810) +90mhz Pentium
Date: 19 Jul 1994 16:29:00 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30gv0c$2vc@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <30dtkp$t24@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In article <30dtkp$t24@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes:
> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
>
> >But what about a read performance of ca. 1.3 MB/sec and a write
> >performance of ca. 350 KB/sec with Talus and NCR53C810 on a harddrive
> >which performs nearly at 700 KB/sec write with Adaptec/Linux?
>
> >I did iozone 40, having 16 MB physical RAM, so nothing about
buffering...
>
> Well, you've got me there. Something clearly isn't working well.
> Even my slow Toshiba on my slow slab shows a better write benchmark
> with iozone than you get with the NCR/Talus setup. It seems weird
> that a driver would provide writes at only 25% of the rate of reads.
>
It seems to depend heavily on the drive. A Quantum LPS240 attached
to the same setup gives about 300 KB/sec read and more than 500 KB
write performance ---- really weird. Will test the Toshiba soon.
[...]
> One thing is for sure, I
> wouldn't want to try running NS/FIP with only 16MB.
Got the wrong SIMM Modules. Going to 48 MB as soon as I get these
things working or find someone who is in desperate need of 2M x 40
(8 Megabyte) SIMMs. Anyone?
> But I don't
> know if that could cause disk I/O trouble, too (iozone contending
> with system swapping?)...
Will check it...
Maybe someone who is knowledgeable about writing device drivers
wants to volunteer on a port of the NCR driver for Linux to NeXTSTEP.
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT MAIL) )o o( nicht weisst
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT Mail) \ | / was Du tust,
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mach's mit Eleganz!"
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From: mrh@pcs.dec.com
Message-ID: <9407191732.AA22004@pcsbst.pcs.dec.com>
Subject: NeXTstep on Gateway P5-90.
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 94 19:32:08 +0200
id AA22004; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 19:32:08 +0200
Hello,
Does anybody out there know if NeXTstep runs OK on the Gateway 2000
Pentium/PCI P5-90 machines. Are any special SCSI or Video drivers required
that are not on the standard 3.2 CD?
Also, assuming it works, can anybody comment on performance?
Are there any recommendations people have for a good beefy workstation
configuration.
Many Thanks,
Martin.
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From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Message-ID: <1994Jul19.175633.15050@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchicago strn fanclub
References: <neuss.774556511@budlight> <30fob4$4h@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 17:56:33 GMT
In article <30fob4$4h@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>,
Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote:
>In article <neuss.774556511@budlight> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
>writes:
>
>> Rumor sez 8bit color support - that means color on Laptops.
>> Three cheers!
>
>Not a rumor, NEC has a driver for it's 8-bit color notebook
>computer (75MHz DX4) running NEXTSTEP/Intel. I saw it at
>the Expo, and it looked quite reasonable for 8-bit color.
>
>Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP is just not visually designed
>with good 640x480 screen resolution support, and I find
>it too painful to use for more than a moment.
>
Hmm.. How does it look in 800x600? Does anyone know what video cards will
support 800x600 with 32 bit color under 3.3? (I think there are only two
right now, the Diamond Viper and one other...)
-Larry.
--
|ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Nanoa refresh rates
Message-ID: <1994Jul19.185857.3781@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <30epmf$jvm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 18:58:57 GMT
In article <30epmf$jvm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
>(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>
>> I do know that the Nanao T660i handles 1280x1024 @ 76Mhz perfectly.
>> A better monitor, I have not yet seen...
>
>My 21" Viewsonic does 1280 x 1024 @ 74 Hz and has a sharp 0.25 mm dot
>pitch. It is one heck of a lot cheaper than the corresponding Nanao.
This would be a helpful thing: we should put together a list of
monitors and refresh rates. Also (since this thread was about the
#9GXE, I think) the ViewSonic you've listed won't work with the #9GXE
at this refresh rate because the GXE driver only supports 76Hz and
60Hz. So, go high or go home ;-). In my books, the Nanao T660i (it's
the Trinitron model) is worth the extra cash.
- db
--
I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Intel: Removing NeXTSTEP from IDE Drive
Message-ID: <1994Jul19.185058.2850@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <30essu$kno@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 18:50:58 GMT
In article <30essu$kno@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> hugunin@mtl.mit.edu writes:
>Does anybody know how to completely wipe NeXTSTEP from an IDE drive?
I've found that either a big magnet or a big hammer works quite well.
:-).
- db
--
I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
From: jtrimble@jpljpt.jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fax modems
Date: 19 Jul 1994 18:44:54 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <30h6v6$6ff@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
I want to buy a fax modem that works with NS for Intel and the Mac. Can
anyone recommend a good deal?
Thanks.
Jay
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Nanoa refresh rates
Message-ID: <1994Jul19.190557.4380@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <30cjt4$sbc@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <1994Jul18.144400.8943@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <30getf$9rd@great-miami.iac.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 19:05:57 GMT
In article <30getf$9rd@great-miami.iac.net> brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) writes:
>Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>: I do know that the Nanao T660i handles 1280x1024 @ 76Mhz perfectly.
>: A better monitor, I have not yet seen...
>
>: I have submitted a suggestion to NeXT that they provide some more useful
>: refresh rates for the #9 other than 60, and 76MHz. One is too low to be
>: useful, and the other requires that you buy a multi-thousand dollar
>: monitor.
>Thats 76Hz, not 76 MHz. :)
Damn. I always type "homer" instead of "home" too, because McGill used to have
a GP computer of the same name. So, I'm going homer now.
> which is around 73khz of bandwith. too much for a F550i but it will work
>on a T560i (that would be the monitor you are looking for that is better
>than the T660 i ;^) )
Bah. I'll keep my 20" Trinitron screen :-). It's much nicer to work with
1280x1024 at this size.
- db
--
I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Logitech bus mouse
Message-ID: <Jul.19.15.37.58.1994.21691@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 19 Jul 94 19:37:59 GMT
References: <1994Jul15.134903.12580@il.us.swissbank.com>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka) writes:
>is the second driver problem I've run into- I have a Pegasus VL board
>which has been on the NeXT to-do list for 9 months now...
Hopefully the Pegasus driver will be out soon. Im using a beta version and itt
seems to work just fine for the most part.
I also have the logitech bus mouse, and it works just fine too, but my bus
mouse is over a year old. Its strange that the newer model wouldn't work with the old driver....
Good luck,
Later, John
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From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: External 270MB SyQuest and the Adaptec 1542CF
Message-ID: <Ct4tJ9.AE@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 10:37:57 GMT
Hi all,
I just received my external 270MB SyQuest that I run on my Gateway 2000
P5-90 with the Adaptec 1542CF.
The problem is that the SyQuest came without any hardware manuals !!
I had huge problems in setting up the drive to work both under NS and
DOS/Windows. I had to change the Adaptec default settings for this
particular SCSI ID (3) and set it up so it uses sync.
I didn't know what I was doing (I still don't) but it kind of worked.
The only problem is that it fails sometimes. There is an I/O error and the
system crashes. The mouse doesn't move anymore and even the
Alt+Ctrl+NumLock is inefficient.
Empirically, I changes the Adaptec settings again for that drive and
disallowed interuption. It then worked like before but everytime there is
an I/O error, it just tells me so and doesn't crash the system anymore.
My questions are :
- How can I improve my settings so it won't fail anymore ?
- Will I be able to move it to a black NeXT without changinf anything in
the black machine (because it's not mine) ? If I have to change something,
what and how ?
Thanks a lot
Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: HSD scanner question
Message-ID: <espritCt7960.4p6@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 18:10:47 GMT
I have been told that the HSD scanner is a Umax. Are they exactly the same
or does the HSD have a different ROM from the Umax?
I have a copy of Appsoft Image and it can grab images from HSD ScanX
scanners and I really cannot afford an HSD, but I can afford a Umax.
Will the Umax work for me?
--
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alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and
esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: Robert Dennis <rad@cse.ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Quantum 525LPS with Black
Date: 20 Jul 1994 01:05:37 GMT
Organization: CRESST UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30ht91$e2g@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Has anyone put one of these puppies into a Cube or Slab? I did and it
works great, but after I reformatted it as a NeXT drive it came up with
only 425megs of space. Is this correct? Is the other 100 megs
sacrificed to the UNIX file systems? We bought our drive from APS for
$379. A great deal for a 500 meg + drive. It is maybe even a good price
for a 425 meg drive. The drive came formatted for Mac with a bunch of
stuff on it (i.e., System folder, PDS, utilities, etc). Thanks for any
replies. If I get any I'll post a summary.
rad@cse.ucla.edu
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ?DEC "MTE" PC with NS/FIP, video et al
Date: 20 Jul 1994 02:51:08 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <30i3es$kjc@gamera.umd.edu>
Keywords: DEC MTE PC,video,NS/FIP
A unit of our organization may be procuring a number of 486DX2-66 DEC MTE
PC's (EISA/VLB). DEC offers both an S3-805 and an S3-928 VLB card for this
unit and I'm wondering if either or both have NS/FIP 3.2 video drivers
available. Also, any general experience from anyone running NS/FIP on this
system... how well does the internal IDE interface perform and/or which
SCSI adapters have been found to work well?
Any advice along these lines appreciated, thanks.
-Mike
--
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UMCEES / CBL (Solomons Island) + + . . slides of your trip to Florida
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From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: How to know the print count in a NeXTLaser ?
Message-ID: <Ct86qD.295@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 06:15:49 GMT
I have a BlackJet (the 400dpi NeXTLaser printer). But don't know how
to obtain the print count. I care about the figures since it relates
to the life of the toner and print engine as well. I must try to
maintain her well since the NeXT h/w is out of binsiness.
Another problem is when replacing the toner, the instruction sheet tells
to clean the Fuser Roller with a new cleaning pad. But when I open the
printer, I found the space doesn't allow me to do so. I don't have the
printer manual because the printer was bought through SAM @$350.
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
(NeXTMail Welcome)
PS Anybody know how can I join the HP LaserJet Toner Cartridge Recycling
Program in HONG KNOG ?
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell DGX Jaws video
Date: 20 Jul 1994 07:38:06 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <30ik8u$uv@news.bu.edu>
I've recently had the chance to play around with a Dell DGX machine that's in
one of the labs here and been pretty impressed. Out of all the white hardware
I've had the chance to use, this is the first machine I've used that has
actually felt faster then the NS Turbo Color's that I'd gotten used to before
NeXT dropped hardware.
I remember seeing in an old issue of NeXTWorld that Dell was planning to bring
out Pentium based JAWS video machines. Did anything ever become of this, or
is anyone else producing video that is similar to JAWS, the new Canon machines
maybe?
Whatever the hardware reasons, this is one FAST machine. Though I'd have
guessed that it would "feel" slow because its a 50mhz 486, this thing is
easily more responsive then the Pentium machines we have around. Anyway,
enough of my ranting, if anyone has info about white hardware of this type
in production, or similar video systems, I'd love to hear it.
Mucho Gracias
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway2000 DX2-66V and a priner on the parallel port
Date: 20 Jul 1994 05:38:27 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9407201009.AA00294@hurka>
Hi All,
Does anybody successfully installed a printer on the parallel port on
Gateway2000 DX2-66V? The friend of mine tried it, but with no
success. Moreover it has a very strange behavior.
First we put old 9-pin Epson printer on parallel to see what is going
on. Then we saw some Postscript source (as we expected), but the
problem was that the average printing speed was something about one
character per five seconds!!! Extremely slow.
Anybody has any idea what is going on?
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL OK
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer FAQ?
Date: 19 Jul 1994 19:44:10 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <30haea$936@mailer.fsu.edu>
References: <1994Jul18.172715.21117@alw.nih.gov> <TVR.94Jul18230130@cnmat.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU>
: Is there a FAQ to read before I disassemble the works?
: Good question, which might be answered by posting said document. Sorry if
: i'm asking a newbie-type question...
: -- Tovar
I've had my NeXT Printer for about a year-and-a-half and haven't had
a single problem. I recently began using these sheets (LaserKleen)
to run thru the printer periodically.
I don't know if that will help or not. You can get these from a company
called Paper Direct (1-800-A-PAPERS).
Please post if you find a FAQ.
--
========================================================================
Peter Lakanen | I AM CLUB DJ. I AM A RE-MIXER. I USE A NeXT.
lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
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From: ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu (Douglas Boyce)
Subject: Beta Testers wanted for ethernet drivers
Message-ID: <Ct8A5M.1F8@freenet.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: State University of New York At Buffalo, NY (USA)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 07:29:45 GMT
I'm looking for NEXTSTEP/FIP users who have access to one or more of the
following ethernet cards and who would like to help me beta test them
under 3.2:
NE1000 or NE2000 (No WinBond chip compatibles, not all compatibles work)
HP PC Lan Plus cards (usually sold as HP2724x) (16 bit)
[remote I/O and shared mem]
SMC Ultra
3Com EtherLink (I)
3Com EtherLink II
3Com EtherLink Plus
Western Digital 8003 (8bit) and 8013 (16bit)
If you would like to become a beta tester send e-mail
--
Doug Boyce
WHAT Software, Inc. (NEXTSTEP software developing and computer reselling)
ak272@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu
NeXTmail and MIME welcome
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bus mouse on IRQ 3, com2 disabled ?
Date: 20 Jul 1994 14:50:57 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <30jdkh$s15@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
I don't need two serial ports. Instead I'd like to free the IRQ 3 for my
Logitech bus mouse that's currently on IRQ 5, so that I have IRQ 5 free
sor sound cards et al.
Is it possible to patch the serial driver, so that it occupies only one
IRQ for the remaining port ? Or maybe this can be done with Mux ?
Any hints welcome!
Gregor
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From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Trouble printing with black hardware...
Date: 20 Jul 1994 16:51:30 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <30k2oi$33l@harmony.cc.gatech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: daver
I never knew printing could be this difficult... I won't talk about
all the prior attempts and failures, just the current "This Really
Ought to Work" situation.
Here's my setup:
- '040 25Mhz cube running NS3.0
- QMS PS410 PostScript laser printer speaking through its RS232
port with flow control enabled
- Official '040 null modem cable bought from PC Connection
whose pinouts I have verified to be those specified by NeXT for
an '040 null modem cable.
Using PrintManager, I created a new printer (the QMS PS410 appears on
the list) and turned on the "hardware handshaking" switch.
Still I have what seems to be a flow control problem. What happens is
that I get two pages of printout and then a dialog saying that there
has been a PostScript error. (At the bottom of this posting I will
include an excerpt from /private/adm/messages/lpd-error which shows what
happens during a few different tries.) The situation is independent of
the application sending the printout. (I've tried it from FrameMaker,
Preview, and Edit with a variety of documents; in all cases I get two
pages and then the PostScript error.) It seems that after two pages
the printer requests that the flow of data stop and that somehow this
request is being interpreted as an error.
As always, any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
DR
===== from lpd-error:
Jul 19 22:15:56 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: localhost:melody - start
Jul 19 22:17:00 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: PostScript error: unmatchedmark; OffendingCommand: ] %^M
Jul 19 22:17:00 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: Status: [Error: unmatchedmark; OffendingCommand: ] %^M
Jul 19 22:17:00 localhost Server:QMS_410[246]: Print job aborted
psbanner: localhost:melody Job: Installer.rtf - /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/Concepts Date: Tue Jul 19 22:37:01 1994
Jul 19 22:37:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: localhost:melody - start
Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: PostScript error: undefined; OffendingCommand: shogrestore
Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: Status: [Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: shogrestore]
Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: Status: [Flushing until EOF seen]
Jul 19 22:38:02 localhost Server:QMS_410[261]: Print job aborted
Jul 19 22:43:04 localhost Server:QMS_410[268]: localhost:melody - start
Jul 19 22:44:48 localhost Server:QMS_410[268]: localhost:melody - end
Jul 19 22:46:17 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: localhost:melody - start
Jul 19 22:47:10 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: PostScript error: undefined; OffendingCommand: versions
Jul 19 22:47:10 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: Status: [Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: versions]
Jul 19 22:47:10 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: Status: [Flushing until EOF seen]
Jul 19 22:47:11 localhost Server:QMS_410[274]: Print job aborted
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From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Best tape solution?
Message-ID: <1994Jul20.205417.1200@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 20:54:17 GMT
What is the best (value/price) solution for a tape backup system?
I'll summarize.
Thanks,
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 DX2-66V and a priner on the parallel port
Date: 20 Jul 1994 15:54:44 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
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Message-ID: <30jhc4$q52@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <9407201009.AA00294@hurka>
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In article <9407201009.AA00294@hurka>, Tomas Hurka <tom@hukatronic.cz> wrote:
>Hi All,
>Does anybody successfully installed a printer on the parallel port on
>Gateway2000 DX2-66V? The friend of mine tried it, but with no
>success. Moreover it has a very strange behavior.
>First we put old 9-pin Epson printer on parallel to see what is going
>on. Then we saw some Postscript source (as we expected), but the
>problem was that the average printing speed was something about one
>character per five seconds!!! Extremely slow.
>Anybody has any idea what is going on?
>
I use it all the time. You may (already) have to change the CMOS
setups for the port. The standard address of LPT1 doesn't match
what NS wants. If you change to port to LPT2 you'll get x0378
(NS doesn't care what the GW thinks the port name/number is.)
Other than that just plug in a postscript printer and you should be set.
With an old 9 pin printer, you may want to check signal polarity for
handshaking. Off hand I don't recall the conventions, but sounds like
something is reversed in your case.
--
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 DX2-66V and a priner on the parallel port
Date: 20 Jul 1994 15:54:44 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
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Message-ID: <30jhc4$q52@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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In article <9407201009.AA00294@hurka>, Tomas Hurka <tom@hukatronic.cz> wrote:
>Hi All,
>Does anybody successfully installed a printer on the parallel port on
>Gateway2000 DX2-66V? The friend of mine tried it, but with no
>success. Moreover it has a very strange behavior.
>First we put old 9-pin Epson printer on parallel to see what is going
>on. Then we saw some Postscript source (as we expected), but the
>problem was that the average printing speed was something about one
>character per five seconds!!! Extremely slow.
>Anybody has any idea what is going on?
>
I use it all the time. You may (already) have to change the CMOS
setups for the port. The standard address of LPT1 doesn't match
what NS wants. If you change to port to LPT2 you'll get x0378
(NS doesn't care what the GW thinks the port name/number is.)
Other than that just plug in a postscript printer and you should be set.
With an old 9 pin printer, you may want to check signal polarity for
handshaking. Off hand I don't recall the conventions, but sounds like
something is reversed in your case.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Subject: NeXT printer malfunction * HELP *
Message-ID: <1994Jul20.215516.21417@scott.skidmore.edu>
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 21:55:16 GMT
Our NeXT laserprinter is not spitting our the sheets all the way....the
last few inches of paper don't come out.....they have to be pulled out...
the little wheel assembly at the output of the machine don't seem to be
moving. ANY SUGGESTIONS ? Anybody had this problem ? Where can I send
it to be repaired if it can't be fixed here easily ?
Thanks for any pointers.
Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
tholland@scott.skidmore.edu
or
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (next mail ok here)
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HSD scanner question
Date: 20 Jul 1994 06:34:31 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <30ighn$fp@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <espritCt7960.4p6@netcom.com>
In article <espritCt7960.4p6@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
writes:
|>I have been told that the HSD scanner is a Umax. Are they exactly the same
|>or does the HSD have a different ROM from the Umax?
|>
|>I have a copy of Appsoft Image and it can grab images from HSD ScanX
|>scanners and I really cannot afford an HSD, but I can afford a Umax.
|>Will the Umax work for me?
|>
Please post a summary of the answers you get, I m very interested too..
Best
Michael
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From: lukeh@zola.apana.org.au (Luke Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,bit.listserv.next-l
Subject: Re: Fair Market Value
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,bit.listserv.next-l
Date: 21 Jul 1994 16:33:09 +1000
Organization: Zola - Linux - Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30l4r5$3es@zola.apana.org.au>
References: <30emg5$k2f@larry.rice.edu>
David John Lodge (lodge@owlnet.rice.edu) wrote:
: Would anyone out there be able to tell me what the fair market value of a
: Next Station Mono 400 and a Next 400 dpi Laser Printer might be. A friend of
: mine is trying to find out what the value of these two items might be on today's market.
That'd be the black market? :-)
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URL http://zola.apana.org.au/0/zola/people
Utilisez Linux!!!
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From: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft)
Subject: Looking for used Digital Ears
Message-ID: <1994Jul20.164953.2584@agog.com>
Sender: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft)
Organization: Agog, Inc.
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 16:49:53 GMT
Does anyone have a used Digital Ears for sale?
-greg.
--
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Agog, Inc.
13780 North River Highway
Grand Ledge, MI 48837
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From: mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=)
Subject: Mux problems
Message-ID: <CtAMEv.7sH@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 13:49:43 GMT
I have recently installed Mux on my system, and I have had some difficulties
with it. When I am downloading with sz ( in seyon under X ) and some other
process starts does something a little processor intensive, I start getting
CRC errors. This happens if I move anther window or if the file
that is being downloaded gets written to the hard drive.
I am using a 60mhz Pentium and a Supra 14.4 modem. I use the device cufb
to get RTS/CTS, and my modem is set up for it. I am sure that Mux is
installed on my serial port. I am not sure what type of serial port
it is.
If anyone has any ideas about how to fix my problems, I would really appreciate
hearing them.
--
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mataylor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca a box, because if you are alive in a box you
NeXTmail welcome can say `At least I'm not dead'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: HSD scanner question
Message-ID: <espritCtAuG1.4z0@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <espritCt7960.4p6@netcom.com> <30ighn$fp@machthenext.dannug.dk>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:43:12 GMT
In article <30ighn$fp@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk writes:
>In article <espritCt7960.4p6@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
>writes:
>|>I have been told that the HSD scanner is a Umax. Are they exactly the same
>|>or does the HSD have a different ROM from the Umax?
>|>
>|>I have a copy of Appsoft Image and it can grab images from HSD ScanX
>|>scanners and I really cannot afford an HSD, but I can afford a Umax.
>|>Will the Umax work for me?
>|>
>
>Please post a summary of the answers you get, I m very interested too..
From what I have been told, the HSD scanner does have different ROMs.
Apparently, the Umax does not handle "Unix timeouts" correctly.
On the other hand, I was also told that the Umax scanner should work.
I am now trying to find someone who let me borrow their Umax scanner
to experiment with this on my machine.
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From: v$imikeb@vnet.ibm.com (Mike Brown)
Subject: Re: Dell DGX Jaws video
Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id)
Message-ID: <CtAw92.4p98@austin.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 17:22:13 GMT
References: <30ik8u$uv@news.bu.edu>
Organization: IBM OS/2 Application Developer Technical Support
In message <30ik8u$uv@news.bu.edu> - bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes:
>I remember seeing in an old issue of NeXTWorld that Dell was planning to bring
>out Pentium based JAWS video machines. Did anything ever become of this, or
>is anyone else producing video that is similar to JAWS, the new Canon machines
>maybe?
Nope, no more JAWS. Proprietary chipset, too expensive, too many
competitors, etc. Shame. Dell seems to have a "graphics chip du jour" in
their machines these days.
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From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: 72 pin socket in station - what is it good for?
Message-ID: <CtAt2D.8D@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:13:25 GMT
I just opened my Good Old Station (tm) and saw a socket like
the PS/2 SIMM sockets on the new PCI motherboards. Empty of course.
Does anybody know what this is good for? Could I drop in some
memory there?
Cheers,
Axel
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FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
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From: nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker)
Subject: Colorado tape backup
Message-ID: <CtB6A9.7qw@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:58:56 GMT
Greetings All,
I have installed NS3.2 successfully on a PC which has a Colorado tape
backup unit running of the floppy drive. Does anybody know if I can use
this tape drive from NeXTSTEP?
Thanks in advance,
Nick Walker.
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From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Good source for SCSI-2 tot SCSI-1 cable wanted
Message-ID: <CtB7pn.Mqq@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <1994Jul20.204900.1132@rna.nl>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 21:29:45 GMT
In article <1994Jul20.204900.1132@rna.nl> gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
> The subject says it all.
>
> Thanks,
Good source for SCSI-2 tot SCSI-1 cable:
Mal Steadman
Fast Access
(708) 268-8787
Addison, Illinois
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From: owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de (Oliver Wrede)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Print to QMS over SGI from Nextstep?
Date: 21 Jul 1994 22:11:20 GMT
Organization: academy of media arts - cologne
Message-ID: <30mrq8INN1gb7@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>
Hello,
I want to print to an QMS-PS810 which is connected to an SGI
Indigo. I installed the Indigo with its IP number in the
Netinfo Manager, but when I open the Print-Dialogue it says
that there is no Printer Description File available...
Who can help?
. oliver wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de .
. academy of media arts . cologne . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. fb design of fh cologne . . . . . . . . . (nextmail welcome) .
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PCI bus and NeXTSTEP, and 1280x1024 - compatible?
Date: 22 Jul 1994 01:52:14 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <30n1ne$ipo@alf.uib.no>
Still trying to get info on what configuration I should go with,
PC or HP. I've been out and collected prices and some info on
PC's. Seems the PCI bus is a good choice with a Pentium (586).
I can't see in the Compatibility guide that NeXT supports PCI
buss boards.... Does it? Will it? (i.e. 3.3)
Also, I've been offered a Sony Trinitron OEM monitor cheap,
and a Cirrus 5428 controller, but it seems NeXT doesn't support
it in colour modes. I was offered an optional ATI 64bits
"mach 64" graphics card, but don't see that one either on NeXTs
lists.... The ATI is (of course) a PCI bus card.
Please e-mail any info. HP Gecko looks better and better...
Regards,
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NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
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From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 72 pin socket in station - what is it good for?
Date: 21 Jul 1994 20:50:03 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu
Message-ID: <30n53r$mgb@acmex.gatech.edu>
References: <CtAt2D.8D@belly.in-berlin.de>
In article <CtAt2D.8D@belly.in-berlin.de> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
:I just opened my Good Old Station (tm) and saw a socket like
:the PS/2 SIMM sockets on the new PCI motherboards. Empty of course.
:
:Does anybody know what this is good for? Could I drop in some
:memory there?
:
It has something to do with the DSP, I think.
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail WELCOME!
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Good Laptops for NS...
Message-ID: <Jul.21.21.35.42.1994.13497@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 22 Jul 94 01:35:42 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Im on a quest to find a nice laptop for running NS. Im either going to
get something cheap to get the job done, or I'll spend some good clams for a
real good machine.
I would like a laptop that supports color at 1024X768 right on the
laptop, or at the very least out to a secondary video source. It should have
SCSI, Enet, modem, Audio abilities. It should be able to have a minimum of
20 megs of RAM, and 300 meg HD. Are any machines like this out there? Most
machines Ive been looking at only do 640X480@256 colors... I know the new
Apple powerbooks offer SCSI, Enet, & audio, are there any intel machines with
all of these connections available?
Anyway, on the cheap side of the coin, maybe I'll just get something
for around 1500 that will just run NS at 640X480 monochrome, and just be good
enough to do the job--however shabbily :) I actually saw an IBM ThinkPad 500
on QVC (Yea, QVC try not to laugh :) for 999 (with only 4meg ram and 120
drive). I wonder, could this machine be made to work with NS. It was supposed
to have a 25/50 mhz 486SLC. I dont know if SLC will work with NS (I actually
have know idea what the difference is between a regular DX and an SLC; I know
the SX's dont have math-coprocessor ability and NS wont work with SX's, but
SLC's are a bit of a mystery to me...). Anyway, is there any reason why this
machine wont work with NS.
Maybe the TP500 isn't too good a deal at $999? If anyone has any
Laptop recommendations at either the cheap end or high end of the spectrum, Id
really appreciate hearing it!
Later, & thanks, John
From: nau@pluto.medizin.uni-ulm.de (Thomas Nau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hard- and software questions
Date: 22 Jul 1994 04:58:45 GMT
Organization: University of Ulm, Departement of Anaesthesia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30njm5$lod@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>
Keywords: X11, SCSI, EISA, VL
Hi,
we are planning to get ourselfs a PC with NextStep for Intel. The problems is
that some questions have to be answered first.
1. Is there a free X11R5 server avaialable ?
2. I saw NS3.2 run with 16 MB and it was quiet a torture for the disk. I was just
playing around a bit. The machine had 16MB RAM and a Adaptec 1542CF adapter.
Is there a way to enlarge the IO buffer or is purchasing more RAM the only way ?
3. Linux should run too on this system so we are a kind of stuck with drivers
and performance. Is there a noticable difference in disk performance between
a Adaptec 1742(EISA) and a 1542CF(ISA) with <= 16MB and > 16MB RAM ?
I hope thats all for now,
thanks, Thomas
P.S. Email preferred
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From: wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu (William Wake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New wine for an old sack: new SCSI for black H/W
Date: 22 Jul 1994 00:47:25 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <30n4ut$46c@server.cs.vt.edu>
We have a couple NeXTstations we want to add more disk space to.
Can I just take any SCSI disk that would run on a Mac or a DEC or a Sun, and
attach it?
I've noticed mention of SCSI-I vs. SCSI-II and some sort of cable - what's the
scoop?
(My copy of the Network & System Administration manual doesn't go into this -
it does explain how to format & protect the disk once it's installed. Is there
another manual I should have?)
Thanks,
Bill Wake, Virginia Tech
wakew@cs.vt.edu
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From: markus@arlac.rhein-main.de (Markus Felten)
Subject: Q:How to connect a S-VHS (still) video camera to a NeXTstation/Cube
Message-ID: <1994Jul21.205747.1191@arlac.rhein-main.de>
Sender: markus@arlac.rhein-main.de
Organization: MF
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:57:47 GMT
Keywords: S-VHS,NeXT,still video
Distribution: world
Is there a way to connect a S-VHS video camera to a NeXTstation?
I like to capture single frames from a S-VHS camera. The camera is able to
freeze a picture
and to deliver permanently the same video signal sequence.
Which hard/software is available to connect such a camera to the NeXT computer?
Any help is welcome
Thanks,
Markus
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From: ez033219@chip.ucdavis.edu (James Antoniou)
Subject: Incredulous - PC Mouse III doesn't work
Message-ID: <CtBz21.2xs@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: University of California, Davis
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 07:20:25 GMT
The subject pretty much says it all. When NS boots, it does not
recognize my mouse - wait, the MOUSE? I have a Mouse Systems PC Mouse
III (optical) on COM1. I never thought a piece of hardware as generic as
a mouse could cause so many problems - because it is not recognized I
cannot do any configuration of my hardware and for the moment this has
completely nullified my installation of NS/FIP. Yes, thousands of
dollars in hardware rendered worthless as far as NS is concerned because
it just doesn't dig my mouse.
I realize that, according to the Hardware Compatibility Guide, only the
MS Mouse and the Logitech MouseMan are "offically" supported by NS - that
means that even MS-compatible rodents (i.e., the PC Mouse III) are out of
luck? I am truly amazed. In all my years of computing (almost 9), hard
drive controllers, hard drives, video cards, BIOS chips, etc. have all
presented various compatibility problems to me and most other people -
but never in all these years has the mouse presented this problem. And
now suddenly with NS this is indeed an issue. How thoroughly strange.
I don't mind getting a genuine Microsoft Mouse, but that's not the
problem I have really. I just can hardly believe that I have to replace
a mouse that is simply the best mouse I've ever owned (opticals ARE the
best) with something else. MS mouses are OK and all and I can live with
it, but it just bugs the hell out of me. Does anyone indeed know if the
PC Mouse III is not compatible with NS/FIP?
Thanks - Jim Antoniou
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From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: mount_CD-ROM
Date: 22 Jul 1994 07:43:19 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <30ntan$3ce@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Is there a possibility to mount a CD-ROM drive permanently to a folder,
say /cdrom?
I tried something with the /etc/fstab but it was a disaster; the machine
could not boot properly then.
--Bernhard Mayr
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From: ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu (Douglas Boyce)
Subject: Re: Mux problems
Message-ID: <CtBv4o.2L4@freenet.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: State University of New York At Buffalo, NY (USA)
References: <CtAMEv.7sH@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 05:55:35 GMT
In a previous article, mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) says:
>I have recently installed Mux on my system, and I have had some difficulties
>with it. When I am downloading with sz ( in seyon under X ) and some other
>process starts does something a little processor intensive, I start getting
>CRC errors. This happens if I move anther window or if the file
>that is being downloaded gets written to the hard drive.
>
>I am using a 60mhz Pentium and a Supra 14.4 modem. I use the device cufb
>to get RTS/CTS, and my modem is set up for it. I am sure that Mux is
>installed on my serial port. I am not sure what type of serial port
>it is.
>
>If anyone has any ideas about how to fix my problems, I would really appreciate
>hearing them.
In tracking down the problem you should first up the Mux buffer size first.
When I installed the stock configuration it was set at the following:
"Buffer Size" = "2048";
"RTS Low Water" = "1536";
"RTS High Water" = "2000";
While looking through other sample configurations I noticed that some had the
following:
"Buffer Size" = "8192";
"RTS Low Water" = "4096";
"RTS High Water" = "8100";
With this your file transfer program could sleep for two seconds at 3000+cps
and probably not lose any characters.
PS. I have an internal Supra 14.4 in a 66
--
Doug Boyce
WHAT Software, Inc. (NEXTSTEP software developing and computer reselling)
ak272@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu
NeXTmail and MIME welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@net23.com (Operator)
Subject: X for INTEL...
Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News)
Organization: Network 23, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:18:10 GMT
Message-ID: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu>
Ok, allright already. Everyone's hiding stuff from me...
Where is a FULL X SERVER AND CLIENT distribution for NS/Intel for free.
Mcgill and mouse x are only for black hardware.
The fact of the matter is, I don't think anyone has made a distribution
like this.
Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X
package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a
fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows
Client and Server package.
What's the status on this? Mail or post.
Nick
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Subject: Location of Doom for NextStep answer
Message-ID: <1994Jul21.195741@bbs.ug.eds.com>
From: moran@bbs.ug.eds.com
Date: 21 Jul 94 19:57:41 GMT
Organization: EDS - NYRSC Amherst
This post is for Gary Wolfe. Please see the bottom for the reason...
Paul...
From: MAILER::IN%"gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu" Thu 21-JUL-94 12:10
To: IN%"-v@gozer.idbsu.edu"
CC:
Subj: NeXT and doom
Ok, Doom is available for the NeXT and will run on both color and
mono stations or cubes with only the one program. There is no sound
and is said to be somewhat slower than the MS-DOS version. This version
is only a demo like the DOS demo one, so to get the full version you
have to buy the registered MS-DOS version and then use that .wad file
to replace the one in the demo and that will turn your NeXT version
into a full version. It can be had at:
cs.orst.edu
in the path:
/pub/next/demos/games/binaries
and the file name is Doom-compressed or something like that. Just search
for Doom* and you should see what I am talking about.
Have fun!
Gary Wolfe
gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
PS Could you post this to the next groups for me as my news server seems to
be full with no immediate solution so I cannot post it myself. Thanks
a lot.
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From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Incredulous - PC Mouse III doesn't work
Message-ID: <1994Jul22.125719.15435@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <CtBz21.2xs@ucdavis.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:57:19 GMT
In article <CtBz21.2xs@ucdavis.edu> ez033219@chip.ucdavis.edu (James
Antoniou) writes:
> I realize that, according to the Hardware Compatibility Guide, only the
> MS Mouse and the Logitech MouseMan are "offically" supported by NS -
that
> means that even MS-compatible rodents (i.e., the PC Mouse III) are out
of
> luck? I am truly amazed. In all my years of computing (almost 9), hard
> drive controllers, hard drives, video cards, BIOS chips, etc. have all
> presented various compatibility problems to me and most other people -
> but never in all these years has the mouse presented this problem. And
> now suddenly with NS this is indeed an issue. How thoroughly strange.
I've been using an MS compatable trackball built by (not microsoft) for
about 9 months and it works fine. Maybe you have some other problem or
your optical mouse isn't really compatable?
--
FreemanSoft Inc.
Home of FSPreferences and FSGreyBoard.
Providers of NEXTSTEP mentoring and consulting services.
Working with NEXTSTEP since March 1989 and NeXT PDO since July 1993.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Location of Doom for NextStep answer
Message-ID: <1994Jul22.125816.15493@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <1994Jul21.195741@bbs.ug.eds.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:58:16 GMT
I thought the location for Doom for NeXTSTEP was in comp.sys.next.advocacy
;-)
--
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Home of FSPreferences and FSGreyBoard.
Providers of NEXTSTEP mentoring and consulting services.
Working with NEXTSTEP since March 1989 and NeXT PDO since July 1993.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: Logitech woes
Message-ID: <1994Jul22.150229.21151@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:02:29 GMT
This is a followup to my last posting. I just bought a Logitech Bus Mouse
and NeXTSTEP doesn't rcognize it. (Dos and Windows do.) I got a lot of
suggestions about setting the IRQ, making sure I had the Bus Mouse driver
installed, etc. Thanks to everyone for getting involved.
Sadly, that wasn't the problem. I tried my mouse on a friends machine
(he's using a Logitech Bus Mouse that does work), and mine didn't work
there either. The mouse itself worked with his controller card, but when I
installed my card in his box, the mouse was no longer recognized.
So apparently (based on the revision number of the custom chip on the
card) I have a newer revision of the controller. Hopefully NeXT will have
a driver for this soon. In the meantime, if you're buying a Bus Mouse, you
may just be taking a gamble on whether or not it will work right now. FYI.
Mike
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep.
Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:24:54 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no>
Hi.
Still looking at relative merits of Intel vs. PA-RISC :-)
Does there exist a list or overview of NeXTSTEP apps which
have been ported, or are planned ported (i.e. the author(s)
have announced their intent to release a HP version) to HP?
It seems to me that most everything has been ported to Intel,
while I cannot find anywhere any public mention of support or
intent to support the upcoming HP port of NeXTStep. I have
received confirmation from several companies I've contacted
directly, but cannot take time to contact all of them.
Please e-mail replies, I'll summarize.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX?
Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:26:20 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no>
Hi.
NeXTStep on NeXTs is a proprietary windowing system built upon
a BSD 4.3 Unix with a Mach kernel, as I understand things.
NeXTStep on Intel is a complete port of Mach, BSD, etc for
486/586 processor family and selected peripherals, correct?
NeXTStep on AIX (no longer available) was the NeXT window
system ported to run on IBM's version of UNIX, AIX - no
Mach kernal, threading, etc.
I would like to know what the HP PA-RISC port is made of -
only the NeXT window system, or _everything_ from Mach up...?
I'm just wondering if I should still consider getting a
Gecko if NS is running over HP-UX instead of Mach...
Please e-mail replies, I'll summarize.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SUMMARY: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX?
Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:54:17 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <30oq39$ig9@alf.uib.no>
I love the Net - 10 minutes and my mailbox is flooded :-)
Thanks to everybody who answered - the HP port is a
_complete_ port of NS in its entirity, from Mach up.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Quantum 525LPS with Black
Message-ID: <CtCqv4.1HF@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <30ht91$e2g@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 17:21:03 GMT
In article <30ht91$e2g@news.mic.ucla.edu> Robert Dennis <rad@cse.ucla.edu> writes:
| Has anyone put one of these puppies into a Cube or Slab? I did and it
| works great, but after I reformatted it as a NeXT drive it came up with
| only 425megs of space. Is this correct? Is the other 100 megs
| sacrificed to the UNIX file systems? We bought our drive from APS for
| $379. A great deal for a 500 meg + drive. It is maybe even a good price
| for a 425 meg drive. The drive came formatted for Mac with a bunch of
| stuff on it (i.e., System folder, PDS, utilities, etc). Thanks for any
| replies. If I get any I'll post a summary.
| rad@cse.ucla.edu
Do have the same harddisk in my cube and had excactly the same kind of
problem. If had another harddisk inside, added the QUANTUM and formatted
it automatically by the WorkSpace and got your 425 MB.
Set the Jumpers to ID 1 and installed NeXTSTEP by the normal procedure,
taking the bootfloppy, sayed FORMAT YES and had 525 MB at the end.
The drive is really very small, fast and very silent. Kreeeek, Kreeeek :-)
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
--
______________________________________________________________________
"Alle widerspruchsfreien axiomatischen Formulierungen
der Zahlentheorie enthalten unentscheidbare Aussagen"
. - aus Hofstadter's: Goedel, Escher, Bach -
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: X for INTEL...
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:19:27 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8i=z6D_00iV301yxlB@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 22-Jul-94 X for INTEL... by
Operator@net23.com
> Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X
> package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a
> fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows
> Client and Server package.
>
> What's the status on this? Mail or post.
If you are willing to spend your time and effort to produce a freely
available version of X for NEXTSTEP/Intel, by all means, go for it!
People will bless your name.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: New wine for an old sack: new SCSI for black H/W
Message-ID: <CtCoxB.I3B@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <30n4ut$46c@server.cs.vt.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:39:10 GMT
In article <30n4ut$46c@server.cs.vt.edu> wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu (William Wake)
writes:
> We have a couple NeXTstations we want to add more disk space to.
>
> Can I just take any SCSI disk that would run on a Mac or a DEC or a Sun, and
> attach it?
No, no, and no... well, ok, maybe.
Make sure you buy a SCSI disk that is known to be compatible with NeXT,
and buy from a vendor you can trust.
I suggest:
Mal Steadman
Fast Access
708-268-8787
Addison, Illinois.
I get no benfits from the recommendation (aside from a
couple of attaboys), by the way.
The Fujitsu drives are notoriously compatible, and reliable,
albeit a bit noisy. Mal will give you a great price on a 2 MB
drive. With today's disk prices, I suggest you seriously consider
at least a 1 MB drive.
> I've noticed mention of SCSI-I vs. SCSI-II and some sort of cable - what's
the
> scoop?
The cable you need is SCSI-II on one end, and Centronics 50-pin on the
other. While your NeXT is SCSI-I internally, the plug is SCSI-II, and
the plug on the external devices is the Centronics 50 pin.
You can buy one of these from Mal at Fast Access.
You'll need an external enclosure with power supply and
plugs... you can buy one of these from Mal at Fast Access.
You'll need to worry about terminating the SCSI chain. If you buy an
internally-terminated drive, and make it the last (physically) device
on your SCSI chain, you'll be in good shape (assuming you have no
other {internally} terminated devices on the chain).
If an external SCSI drive is the ONLY device you're plugging into
the SCSI plug of the NeXT, then you'll want an internally-terminated
drive, and the situation is uncomplicated.
Just plug in the drive, power it up, then power up the NeXT, let the
OS initialize the drive (it's a NeXT. it will ask automatically, this is
one of the examples why everything but NeXTs suck),
and you're off and running.
Remember to power on the drive (and any other external SCSI devices)
first and to power off the drive last.
Now, without some tweaking of the file /etc/fstab, the drive and its
contents will always mount belonging to the user who is logged in.
If you want to (pre)set the owner of the contents of the drive,
you'll need an extra line in /etc/fstab.
We can help you with that, when you get the drive installed, initialized,
and running.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Anybody gotten the ProAudio 16 Basic to work??
Message-ID: <1994Jul22.161540.21771@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:15:40 GMT
Has anybody gotten the Media Vision ProAudio 16 Basic to work? Even the box
claims Nextstep (their spelling, not mine) compatability, but I am having
problems. Here is my configuration:
PA 16 Basic (PAS at IRQ 7 (also tried 11), DMA 3 (also tried 7) and SB
at IRQ 2, DMA 1)
Intel EtherExpress 16C (IRQ 10)
DPT 2021 ISA SCSI controller (IRQ 15, DMA 5)
Bus mouse (IRQ 5) - this is a MS Bus mouse :-)
Serial ports (IRQ 3, 4)
Keyboard (IRQ 1)
The system gets through configuring and registering all of the drivers, but
hangs at the point before it gets the netmask for en0. Then it starts printing
EtherExpress errors until I reboot. The problem goes away when I remove the
PA16 Basic (and don't change any drivers).
Any suggestions before I take this card back? That would be too bad because I
got it as a replacement for my MSW Sound System card because the SB emulation
with the MSW card is really bad (got to have my doom :-).
Thanks...
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Sources for Mediatrix Audiotrix Pro???
Message-ID: <1994Jul22.161723.21829@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:17:23 GMT
Anybody have any good source for the Mediatrix Audiotrix Pro? I may be in the
market for one (if my previous request for help with the PA16 Basic doesn't
produce any solutions) and am looking for the best price I can get.
Thanks...
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Good Laptops for NS...
Date: 22 Jul 1994 17:57:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <30p1a2$4d5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <Jul.21.21.35.42.1994.13497@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
If you're not wedde to a laptop configuration, the "BabyStep" from
ComputerActive is one impressive machine. They demo it at Expo: looks like a
Mac Classic in dark grey, with a 10" Trinitron and all the horsepower and
goodies you requested. It's a standard 486 architecture, and they customize
to suit. We're planning on getting one for our road shows.
I'm not affiliated with ComputerAcive, just a very impressed schmoe.
Reach 'em at sales@computeractive.on.ca
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: do I have to have an internal HD?
Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:32:03 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30p3b3$mp0@news.nd.edu>
I got a new external case for a tape drive and I was
wondering if I can move both my hard disks out of my Cube.
Do I need to remove the SCSI cable from the motherboard? Do
I just leave the SCSI cable hanging? I would really like to
get the drives out of my Cube, since I have to power off to
reboot (bad NBIC chip on NeXTdimension board, and it's
soldered in too, yuck) Another question is, why am I having
problems getting my Fujitsu 520MB (M2624SA) hard drive to
work with the SCSI selector switch on my external case. I
checked the switch with a multimeter and it is working
correctly. Is there a jumper on the hard drive that I have
to remove/replace when connecting to the selector switch.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
-george
George B. Ross_____NeXTmail welcome_________gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering_______University of Notre Dame
From: sailer@a4430edc.esr.hp.com (Lee Sailer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:17:24 GMT
Organization: HP Educational Services Organization
Message-ID: <30p2fk$eki@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
References: <30ooes$hdi@alf.uib.no>
> I would like to know what the HP PA-RISC port is made of -
> only the NeXT window system, or _everything_ from Mach up...?
Everything, from Mach up.
--
lee
From: bdm@agni.ss.uci.edu (Brian McElree)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Impressions of Daydream
Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:52:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <30p4gu$abj@news.service.uci.edu>
Keywords: Daydream
I'm looking for impressions/experiences with Daydream, the NeXT-to-Mac
converter. Particular experience with Photoshop and Xpress would be
greatly appreciated, as well as your experience with its support of
peripheral devices (scanners, syquest, and the NeXT printer).
Thanks in advance
Brian McElree
From: pln@egret0.Stanford.EDU (Patrick L. Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Tape write error [white]
Date: 22 Jul 1994 19:09:06 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <30p5gi$cn3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
We have a 486 computer with NS 3.2. It has an Archive Viper
525 MB tape drive. A while ago I was able to do a level 0 dump
to the tape, and it can still read this tape. Now it won't
write to the tape. The programs dump, tar, and dd all die with
an I/O error as soon as they try to write. The drive doesn't
make any of its characteristic noises when this happens.
I have tried setting the "write protect" knob on the tape
to both settings. The "mt status" command gives the following
results, but I don't know how to interpret this:
gamma> mt -f /dev/nrst0 status
Generic SCSI tape drive, residual=0
Sense Key = 0x00
Sense Code = 0x00
Sense Byte 0x13 = 0x00
Sense Byte 0x14 = 0x1a
Sense Byte 0x15 = 0x00
Sense Byte 0x16 = 0x00
Any ideas?
--
* Patrick L. Nolan (415)723-0133 *
* W. W. Hansen Experimental Physics Laboratory (HEPL) *
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From: "Gabriel D. Underwood" <gabe+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: listing of device drivers?
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:43:01 -0400
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UiA255S00X0MAy93sL@andrew.cmu.edu>
Is there a listing of all the 3rd party (Talus,etc.) or freeware
device drivers for NeXSTEP Intel that are out there?
Does anyone know what new drivers will be NeXT be shipping in 3.2?
I want to buy a PCI/Pentium based system and install the
academic-version of NS/Intel. I figure with the .edu discount and
some aggressive hunting around, I can put together a Pentium machine
for less than the Cannon object.station 486 would cost me.
But I need to know what video and scsi cards are actually viable before
I can start scrounging around for el-cheapo boxes.
--
Gabriel Underwood
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Sender: peterb@sibyl (Peter Bouvier)
From: peterb@sibyl.SAIC.com (Peter Bouvier)
Distribution: world
Followup-To:
Organization: SAI Technology, San Diego, CA
Subject: Video Input to NeXT/Intel
Keywords: video NTSC
Message-ID: <27436770@MVB.SAIC.COM>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 20:50:46 GMT
Greetings:
I'm interested in knowing if anyone has connected a live video source to
an Intel-based machine running NeXTSTEP. I'd like to be able to capture
video from a standard source (eg videocam), and input it to a NeXTSTEP process.
Thanks in advance,
Peter
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP9000 series 700 academic discounts?
Date: 22 Jul 1994 16:23:18 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <30pdc6$6gv@crchh921.bnr.ca>
I am attending University of Texas at Dallas and I am interested in
purchasing a HP712/60 system to run Nextstep (I have lost track on
the proper capitalization of Nextstep...or is it NeXTstep...etc.)
The problem is that UTD only orders software and they do not order
any hardware. They do have Nextstep in their ordering information,
so that is not a problem. Is there a way that I could just call
a certain HP number, prove to them that I am a student, and get
the academic discount? Are there resellers (maybe Alembic Systems?)
that sell HP workstations to students?
Are there other alternatives? Any advice would be great.
Thanks in advance.
Mike
=============================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
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The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR.
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From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Not all NeXT printers work on all NeXTstations
Date: 22 Jul 1994 22:24:13 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <30pgud$cem@news.iastate.edu>
We have over 30 NeXTstations and 12 printers. Four of our printers are
brand new (manufactured in 1992, but sat in a warehouse until recently),
purchased from Pixelated Technologies (I highly recommend them).
My problem is that not all of my NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printers work with all
of my NeXTstations!
When I got the four new printers, I immediately replaced two existing
printers which need some repair work. Both of those printers work just
fine. When they return from repair I will install them at locations which
are currently lack printer support.
I want to install the remaining two new printers in areas which do not
have any printers and attempted as much today with terrible results.
I installed one of the new printers on cobra, a 32MB NeXTstation Color, I
wanted the printer to reside in a reception area between two offices,
requiring that I run the short supplied cable through the wall. I
understand that NeXT printers only work with the supplied cables. When I
ran PrintManager, it came up as printer type "NeXT 400 dpi Level II
Printer" (there is no "NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer" type), which is the
same that we have all of our other printers set for.
When I went to print the Test Page (using the Test button of
PrintManager), however, the printer output two blank pages and turned
itself with two-thirds of the third blank page still inside the printer.
The "Some or all of you output could not be printed" message appeared on
cobra's screen. I tried this many many times with similar results each
time. On a few occassions about an inch of the top of the standard print
page appeared on each of the three pages, but usually they were entirely
blank.
I removed the new printer (we will refer to it as NP1) and replaced it
with the other new printer (we will refer to it as NP2), with the same sad
results. I had been careful to power off cobra before disconnecting the
printer and powering it back up after connecting another printer.
I then replaced NP2 with a very old NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer which had
been replaced with one of the other two new printers (we will refer to it
as OP1). This printer makes a lot of noise and has poor quality print.
Low and behold, OP1 works!!! When I click the Test button in the
PrintManager application, the standard print page appears in the output
tray.
Since the quality of OP1 is poor, I tried replacing it with the other old
printer replaced by another new printer the week before (we will refer to
it as OP2). Strangely enough, OP2 fails exactly like NP1 and NP2!!!
I put dirty old OP1 back on cobra so that my users can at least print. It
may not be pretty or quiet, but at least they can get some semblance of
printing.
I then took NP1, NP2 and OP2 back to my netherworld and attached them to
badger, my NeXTstation Turbo test database server, and stallion, my
NeXTstation Turbo Color development machine. All three of them worked!!!
Why does OP1 work with anything, particularly cobra (the NeXTstation
Color), while OP2, NP1 and NP2 only work with my NeXTstation Turbo
machines (and other NeXTstation non-turbo non-color incidentally)?
OP1's serial number is AAC0000730. A very LOW serial number.
OP2's serial number is AAC0017652.
NP1's serial number is AAC0019308. Much HIGHER serial numbers.
NP2's serial number is AAC0018716.
I have only been working with NeXT since June 1 and cobra was the first
machine that I had ever installed a printer on (previously I had simply
replaced them). What, if anything, have I done wrong?
Is there an incompatibility between old NeXTstations and new NeXT
printers?
Is there anything that I can do to make all of these NeXT printers work
with all of my NeXT machines?
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory
College of Veterinary Medicine
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa 50011
1(515)294-4751
rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu NeXTMail accepted
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Colorado tape backup
Date: 22 Jul 1994 22:42:37 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <30pi0u$boo@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <CtB6A9.7qw@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Nick Walker (nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: Greetings All,
: I have installed NS3.2 successfully on a PC which has a Colorado tape
: backup unit running of the floppy drive. Does anybody know if I can use
: this tape drive from NeXTSTEP?
The floppy tape backup is not supported at all. I have been wondering
if the Ftape driver for Linux could be somehow ported. The biggest
problem is that the Ftape software uses a mechanism called modules
to allow a user to dynamically add device drivers to the kernel.
I know nothing about how device drivers in NeXT work compared to
other Unix systems. How are they added to NeXT? Is there a special
Toolkit required to write device drivers in addition to the developer's
license? Are there any good references either as a book or a
reference on an FTP site.
I'd be willing to try it just for the challenge, but do need more info.
Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
P.S. Please don't send too many flames about how awful and bad
the floppy tape drive is. The basic fact is it is **cheap** and
widely available, and like it or not it does work for DOS, Windows,
Linux (using Ftape) and should be able to be used under NeXTSTEP.
Also, for those who are unfamiliar with the CMS tape drives. The
drive connects along with the floppy controller instead of via
a SCSI port.
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: X for INTEL...
Date: 23 Jul 1994 01:06:29 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no>
References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu>
I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have
more than one OS on a boot disk, no?
If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for?
Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice.
(not as nice as NeXT ;-)
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 72 pin socket in station - what is it good for?
Date: 23 Jul 1994 01:13:29 +0200
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <30pjqp$3bs@alf.uib.no>
References: <CtAt2D.8D@belly.in-berlin.de> <30n53r$mgb@acmex.gatech.edu>
Its for extra DSP RAM. Unless you use the DSP a _lot_
(i.e. music synthesis or heavy number-crunching), you
don't need to worry about it or fill it.
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 72 pin socket in station - what is it good for?
Date: 22 Jul 1994 21:44:21 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <30pejl$226@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <CtAt2D.8D@belly.in-berlin.de>
In article <CtAt2D.8D@belly.in-berlin.de> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel
Habermann) writes:
|>I just opened my Good Old Station (tm) and saw a socket like
|>the PS/2 SIMM sockets on the new PCI motherboards. Empty of course.
|>
|>Does anybody know what this is good for? Could I drop in some
|>memory there?
|>
It is used to increase the amount of memory for the Digital Signal Processor,
from the builtin 24Kb to 576Kb (according to the specs, though I would assume a
512Kb module making it 536Kb).
It uses high-speed static RAM, and as such I would say that the possibility of
even getting it to work with anything else the module intended for this slot is
very small.
And on top of that, you will see little or no benefit at all form this, since
hardly any software uses the DSP for real.... and 512/552Kb of static RAM is
not cheap!
Best
Michael
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From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New wine for an old sack: new SCSI for black H/W
Date: 22 Jul 1994 21:52:01 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <30pf21$229@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <30n4ut$46c@server.cs.vt.edu>
In article <30n4ut$46c@server.cs.vt.edu> wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu (William Wake)
writes:
|>We have a couple NeXTstations we want to add more disk space to.
|>
|>Can I just take any SCSI disk that would run on a Mac or a DEC or a Sun, and
|>attach it?
|>
|>I've noticed mention of SCSI-I vs. SCSI-II and some sort of cable - what's
the
|>scoop?
|>
|>(My copy of the Network & System Administration manual doesn't go into this -
|>it does explain how to format & protect the disk once it's installed. Is
there
|>another manual I should have?)
|>
|>Thanks,
Hi,
I have had several generic SCSI harddrives, e.g. Seagate 12400N, 31400N, HP
97560 and more, and attached to my ColorStation, and they have all worked
perfectly. If the drive you choose is alrger than 2Gb, you may have to fiddle
around with the drive on a UNIX level in order to format it, but it is not a
problem. Let me know if you need help with that when you get there....
I have also tried taken MAC formatted SCSI drives and attached, and it just
pops up in the Workspace Manager as a MAC disk, with that icon with the Apple
on it, and I can read everything straight of the disk. NeXT has really done a
fantastic job on this part of their system, I work with many different
platforms every day at work, and I have yet to see any other system perform as
well...
As said, let me know if you need help...
Best regards
Michael
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From: sangjin@gamow.eecs.berkeley.edu (Sangjin Hong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FOR SALE: Daydream ROMbox
Date: 22 Jul 1994 23:41:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <30plfi$il9@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi all,
I am selling Daydream ROM box (it makes your NeXT computer into a high
performance Macintosh). It is brand new (still in the box).
If any one interested in buying it, send me an email
sangjin@gamow.eecs.berkeley.edu
I am asking $550.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Message-ID: <Jul.22.20.12.44.1994.5114@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Jul 94 00:12:44 GMT
References: <neuss.774556511@budlight> <30fob4$4h@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> <1994Jul19.175633.15050@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes:
>>Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP is just not visually designed
>>with good 640x480 screen resolution support, and I find
>>it too painful to use for more than a moment.
>>
>Hmm.. How does it look in 800x600? Does anyone know what video cards will
>support 800x600 with 32 bit color under 3.3? (I think there are only two
>right now, the Diamond Viper and one other...)
Why? Is there a laptop out there that has an 800X600 lcd display?? Or are we
talking about two different things?
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: VL SCSI cards for NS
Message-ID: <Jul.22.20.16.14.1994.5305@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Jul 94 00:16:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Does anyone know of any VL SCSI cards that will work with NS? I prefer
EISA, but its just too much more $$ for an eisa system, thus I have to get a
VLB/ISA system. I could just get a SCSI card via ISA bus, but I want my 16 bit
sound to work, and from what I understand the ISA SCSI and Sound Cards dont
work together--which is why I want to get a VL SCSI card--so I can use a PAS16.
Thanks for any info.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: NeXT Station 17 " Color monitor known problem possible solution
Message-ID: <1994Jul22.090945.14049@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:09:45 GMT
Here is a list of electronic components we used to change on a non working
NeXT Station 17 " Color monitor.
Location Type Ref Comments/Manufacturer
V21 Transistor BUW13A Philipps
V66 Transistor BUV26 Philipps
C33 Capacitor 13nF/1600Volts Polypropylene
dielectric
C110 Capacitor 180nF/400Volts Polypropylene
dielectric
Don t try to do it yourself, but any good TV repair shop can do the job!
Hope that helps!
Cheers
--Fabien
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From: andrewa@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New wine for an old sack: new SCSI for black H/W
Date: 23 Jul 1994 00:32:37 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <30pof5$8p7@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <CtCoxB.I3B@txnews.amd.com>
In article <CtCoxB.I3B@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes:
(this quote is in reference to SCSI hard drives)
> albeit a bit noisy. Mal will give you a great price on a 2 MB
> drive. With today's disk prices, I suggest you seriously consider
> at least a 1 MB drive.
I'm going to have to differ here; I can't see anyone ever
needing more than 500k. Get a 0.5 MB drive and put the
money you save into another 32k of RAM.
--
andrewa@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com (NeXTmail spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Subject: looking for a CD-ROM drive for INTEL NeXT
Distribution: fj
Date: 22 Jul 94 18:11:29
Content-Type: text/plain
From: dkarlton@grover
Message-ID: <dkarlton.94Jul22181129@grover>
I'm trying to find a CD-ROM drive for my intel machine running
NEXTSTEP, and I'm having some trouble.
I need a double speed internal SCSI (50-pin) that is NOT
Toshiba 3401. (They apparently don't work with CDPlayer.app).
Is there a SONY or NEC CD-ROM drive that meets those specs
(I'm sure there is), and if so where can I find it? I've tried calling
ClubPC and they only have the Toshiba 3401 and a SONY 40-pin
drive.
Please email to : dkarlton@trg.saic.com, as it takes me ~15 minutes
to load NewsGrazer eve
ry time I launch it.
Thanks in advance
dk
--
David Karlton
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ?DEC "MTE" PC with NS/FIP, video et al
Date: 23 Jul 1994 04:13:22 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30q5d2$qp9@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <30i3es$kjc@gamera.umd.edu>
In article <30i3es$kjc@gamera.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F.
Santangelo) writes:
> A unit of our organization may be procuring a number of 486DX2-66 DEC MTE
> PC's (EISA/VLB). DEC offers both an S3-805 and an S3-928 VLB card for this
> unit and I'm wondering if either or both have NS/FIP 3.2 video drivers
> available. Also, any general experience from anyone running NS/FIP on this
> system... how well does the internal IDE interface perform and/or which
> SCSI adapters have been found to work well?
In general, it's an OK system to run NEXTSTEP/Intel on,
but you can learn from some of our configuration
mistakes.
1. We ordered with the Adaptec 1740 EISA SCSI card. At the
time NeXTanswers listed this card without the "in 1540
mode only" caveat. It works fine in 1540 mode, but don't
waste your money on an EISA card that NEXTSTEP only
supports ISA bandwidth.
I would suggest one of the EISA SCSI cards that is supported
such as the DPT, although DEC may not sell it.
After partitioning the disk with NEXTSTEP and DOS
partitions, we rebuilt DOS from floppies. For some weird
reason, windoze will now only run in /S mode. No one from
DEC "support" could ever tell us why! It must be some
driver weirdness that they had patched on the
factory-installed DOS, but not included on the
distribution floppies (like the missing EISA config
disk, whoops).
2. DEC S3-928 video card. We ordered it with 4 MB of VRAM
because we wanted to use 24-bit color. Either the
NEXTSTEP S3 drivers suck or the card sucks, because 24 bit
modes have terrible screen shimmers and banding
problems. The only thing the 4 MB VRAM appears good for is
to run 1280x1024x16 bit, but we find that's too small to
look at with a 17" display, even a good one like the Nanao
T560i.
If you want to run in 1024x768x16 bit, just order this card
with 2 MB VRAM. Note than the NEXTSTEP S3 driver doesn't
offer 1120x832x16 bit mode.
The driver also does not recognize that it should support
800x600x16 bit mode with 1 MB VRAM - it punts at bootup.
3. Not sure why, but our system wedges at bootup with 64 MB
of RAM (4 16MB SIMMS). Never could figure out why, so we
just removed the last SIMM, and it worked OK with 48 MB.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Date: 23 Jul 1994 04:17:05 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30q5k1$qpo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <1994Jul19.175633.15050@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1994Jul19.175633.15050@midway.uchicago.edu>
ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes:
> >Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP is just not visually designed
> >with good 640x480 screen resolution support, and I find
> >it too painful to use for more than a moment.
> Hmm.. How does it look in 800x600?
I'm not aware of the NEC or any PC laptop supporting more
than a 640x480 internal screen. I know some of them can
display more resolution with external monitors, but
that's not what I'm discussing.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Date: 23 Jul 1994 04:25:29 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30q63p$qri@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <30g1rf$c9h@yucca.omnigroup.com>
In article <30g1rf$c9h@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William
Shipley) writes:
> I've been told that if you buy a monitor > 15" in your initial system, you
> get the extra VRAM included. Certainly the price list I have seems to
> imply this (eg, there is no separate pricing for VRAM).
Incorrect, there are four HP video options:
15" 1024x768
17" 1024x768
17" 1280x1024
19" 1280x1024
The last two get you the added VRAM in the package. It can
also be ordered as a spare part for $400, which I'm told is
difficult to get with discounted pricing.
> BTW, if you're a developer, be SURE to call HP's developer program and
> get the massive discount. I don't think I can quote the rate, but it
> basically makes buying any other machine insane.
It's 52%, and I agree!
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Not all SCSI drives work (was: New wine for an old sack)
Date: 23 Jul 1994 05:05:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30q8ed$jl4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <30pf21$229@machthenext.dannug.dk>
In article <30pf21$229@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael
Hallin) writes:
> I have had several generic SCSI harddrives, e.g. Seagate
> 12400N, 31400N, HP 97560 and more, and attached to my
> ColorStation, and they have all worked perfectly
Two months or so ago, I and two other people could not get Quantum PD1800s
drives (1.8 GB) to work under NextStep Motorolla. I have been informed
that this drive works fine under NextStep Intel. Unless Quantum has
recently upgraded their firmware or NeXT has modified their driver, this
drive will not work under NextStep Motorolla. I and two others had to
return our Quantums and buy similar sized drives from Micropolis.
Does anybody know if the Quantum PD1800s now works with NextStep
Motorolla?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Incredulous - PC Mouse III doesn't work
Date: 23 Jul 1994 13:24:23 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <30r5m7$o22@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <CtBz21.2xs@ucdavis.edu>
James Antoniou (ez033219@chip.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: I don't mind getting a genuine Microsoft Mouse, but that's not the
: problem I have really. I just can hardly believe that I have to replace
: a mouse that is simply the best mouse I've ever owned (opticals ARE the
: best) with something else. MS mouses are OK and all and I can live with
: it, but it just bugs the hell out of me. Does anyone indeed know if the
: PC Mouse III is not compatible with NS/FIP?
I had a Mouse Systems White mouse (optical) which did not work with NS or
Windows NT. I got a MS mouse (which I like better) and have had no problems.
The White mouse is not 100% compatible as they advertise.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman)
Subject: Black Monitor Dead!?
Message-ID: <CtEK16.6H2@ncifcrf.gov>
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 16:48:42 GMT
Hello,
It appears that my monitor (FIMI) has died. It had been having
'glitches' for the last week, where there would be a band of disturbance across
the screen for a second, then it would go away. Last evening, I was working
along when there was a bright spot in the middle of the screen, and then the
monitor went black. It has not come back on since. The question is, is this
a dead monitor or a dead video system on the motherboard? The other question is
what is Bell Atlantic's number? I don't have another NeXT to try out the
monitor on to distinguish between monitor dead and video curcuits dead, though
the machine will come on and boot fine, as well as I can tell without a monitor.
Thanks,
David Kelman
kelman@fconvx.ncifcrf.gov
kelman@fcrfv1.ncifcrf.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng)
Subject: ColorStation won't power up
Message-ID: <CtEIsK.Jzr@mail.auburn.edu>
Summary: Yikes!
Keywords: ColorStation NeXT Power Key
Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator)
Organization: Auburn University
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 16:21:55 GMT
Hi!
We've got a ColorStation that one day, sitting all by itself, decided to
do a system panic. Unfortunately, the system manager (me!) did not find
out about it until several hours later, by which time the ColorStation
had POWERED DOWN ON ITS OWN!
Now, hitting the power key has no effect. No Fan, no whirring of disk.
Nothing.
I called NeXT Tech, and they kindly suggested that we remove the clock
battery for an hour or so. We replaced the battery with a fresh one, and
tried powering up, but to no avail.
I remember reading some posts about this subject a while ago, but our
news server has deleted them. If anyone could enlighten me, I'd really
appreciate it.
Thanks
- Bill Seng
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Fujitsu M2694ES as a boot drive
Date: 23 Jul 1994 19:15:14 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <30rq82$1tr@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I am attempting to get said drive working in a NeXT Turbo station.
I had no problem formatting and initializing the drive externally,
but when I try to make it internal, it prevents other devices from
booting somehow. "Unexpected scsi messages" are reported.
If someone has done this, perhaps they can clue me in. I suspect
that there might be a jumper I have to remove for synchronous or
scsi-2 or somesuch mode. Or perhaps there is some other trick.
Another help would be if someone can point me to somewhere on the
net where I can find what all the jumpers and switches on the
drive do.
Thanks.
Mark Adler
madler@cco.caltech.edu
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black Monitor Dead!?
Date: 23 Jul 1994 17:58:55 -0400
Organization: Brooklyn College
Message-ID: <30s3qv$ja7@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu>
References: <CtEK16.6H2@ncifcrf.gov>
i am willing to bet that it is your
monitor. at the center where i work
we have 6 NeXTs and we have had 4 dead
black monitors already.
to have bell atlantic fix it (b&w)
is about 590.00 if i remeber right.
you might be better off getting a monitor
from pixelated tech or Alembic
or whoomever.
the early NeXT had defective monitors
and NeXT was fixing them for free but
that was a long long time ago.
good luck.
for bell atlantic's number just call the folks at
NeXT at 1800 848 NEXT and they will give you the number
i cant seem to find it.
kevin parks
the center for computer music at brooklyn college
kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu
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From: root@net23.com (Operator)
Subject: Re: X for INTEL...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no>
Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News)
Organization: Network 23, Inc.
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 22:40:00 GMT
Message-ID: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu>
Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote:
: I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have
: more than one OS on a boot disk, no?
: If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for?
: Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice.
: (not as nice as NeXT ;-)
Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has
to be up 24/7
Nick
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From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Dell XPS 90 crashing everyday
Date: 23 Jul 1994 23:51:13 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30sadh$g8l@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: crashing, hanging, halting, panicing, Dell, XPS 90
I purchased a Dell Dimensio XPS 90 recently and moved my harddrive +
DPT scsi controller from my old Dell 450DE (EISA bus). Everything works
fine except that the damn thing crashes about once a day.
The first crash occured when I clicked on the "Run" button on PB and
gave me one those cute Kernel Panic windows that offers you the chance
to reboot or reboot. Since I saw some stuff scroll by that looked as if
might be scsi related (DMA this and that) I decided to install the new
beta DPT drivers. I then got another crash during the linking stage of
a build but this time it just froze, no kernel panic. Is this a new
feature of the driver?
Anyway, do you, the net, think I should find a way to reinstall NS or is
it the DPT scsi card and do I have to wait and see if NeXT can deliver a
stable driver? BTW I never had a crash on the Dell 450 DE.
John Stanhope
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ISA graphics cards for NS/I
Date: 23 Jul 1994 22:28:03 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <30sjjj$838@search01.news.aol.com>
I am presently running NS with the default 600X480 VGA driver and would
like
to upgrade to 1024X768. I understand the only graphics cards supported
for this resolution on ISA machines are the Tseng Labs ET-4000AX and
the STB Horizon (with Cirrus Logic GD542X chips). If someone has any
experience with either (or both) of these cards, could you please offer
your
opinion on the relative quality improvement offered by them. Thanks.
Jeff
trestrail@aol.com
trestrail@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Message-ID: <1994Jul24.022522.18972@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchicago strn fanclub
References: <1994Jul19.175633.15050@midway.uchicago.edu> <30q5k1$qpo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 02:25:22 GMT
In article <30q5k1$qpo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>,
Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote:
>In article <1994Jul19.175633.15050@midway.uchicago.edu>
>ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes:
>> Hmm.. How does it look in 800x600?
>
>I'm not aware of the NEC or any PC laptop supporting more
>than a 640x480 internal screen. I know some of them can
>display more resolution with external monitors, but
>that's not what I'm discussing.
>
Just to clarify things, I didn't mean that as a response to the laptop
question, I just meant it as a general question for desktop computers (since
that is probably the resolution that I will run at when I upgrade my computer
to NS/Fip)
-Larry.
--
|ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|--But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the universe! |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashpal Singh)
Subject: Suitable V.34 modems for NS/I
Message-ID: <CtBD1t.Cuw@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (Usenet News Admin)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 23:25:05 GMT
Does anyone know of a suitable V.34 modem which would be compatible
with NS/I? I know that Zyxel modems have a very high level of
compatibility with NeXT, but they haven't come out with a V.34 modem
yet.
Any insight into a suitable modem (V.34) appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rousl01@DMI.USherb.CA (LUC-ERIC ROUSSEAU)
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Message-ID: <rousl01.775024283@DMI.USherb.CA>
Sender: usenet@DMI.USherb.CA (Pour courrier Usenet)
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
References: <1994Jul16.131652.8549@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 04:31:23 GMT
>current list for 3.2 that is avalible on ftp.next.com, or are they going to
>be adding even more support? If it is the latter, does anyone know when they
>will be releasing the list of supported hardware?
An interesting addition to 3.3 will be direct support for the Audiotrix Pro
from MediaTriX.
NeXT has apparantly worked out the high input level problem, and is suppose
to include the fix in the 3.3 beta, followed by officially supporting
the card in 3.3 this fall.
Very exciting, as this is by far, the card that has the cleanest sound
on NeXTStep/FIP
-=LER=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: DPT 2021 in Versa docking station?
Message-ID: <CtEwo5.8n5@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 21:21:41 GMT
Has anyone gotten the DPT 2021 to work in a Versa docking station?
I tried it - all the LED's were solid and it basically hung the machine
for a while (no BIOS message). After about a minute or two, it would
continue to boot ignoring the DPT altogether. I tried the same DPT in a
desktop 286 just to verify that it works, and sure enough, it recognizes
the CD-ROM drive attached to it. I've tried:
* lowering the DMA rate - practically every setting under 5.0mb/sec
* changing that address lines driven jumper
* moving the BIOS ROM address
* turning on external cable detect
* tried slow bus mastering timing
* turned off bus mastering
DPT Tech support says that all LED's on means that the card doesn't get
enough power. NEC Tech support (after 45 minutes on hold) says that
they've never tried the DPT and recommends Adaptec 1542C. They said that
the docking station provides full ISA spec power.
I did manage to build NEXTSTEP on the machine with a borrowed Adaptec
1542B. However, if we exchange the DPT for an Adaptec, it'll be the
1542CF. Has anyone gotten the 1542CF to work?
Thanks!
--
Bill Chin - bchin@andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Driver for NEC CD-AT160 SCSI controller?
Message-ID: <1994Jul24.095212@taz>
From: mn01@taz.acc.uwrf.edu
Date: 24 Jul 94 09:52:12 CDT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls
I need to install NextStep on an existing 486 PC. My problem is that the
only SCSI controller that is available to me is a NEC CD-AT160. The CD-ROM
drive is a CDR-74.
Is there a driver available that would make it possible to use this
controller to do an install?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Marlys A. Nelson System Manager, Systems Programmer,
Academic Computing Network Manager, etc., etc.
Univ. of WI - River Falls
Internet: Marlys.A.Nelson@uwrf.edu
From: sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org (Josef Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSI: Printer driver broken in 3.2?
Date: 22 Jul 1994 20:12:39 +0200
Organization: PPCGer mail and news system (Germersheim, Germany)
Message-ID: <30p26n$7u9@ppcger.ppc.sub.org>
Hi!
Are there any known bugs in the printer-driver for white NS 3.2?
When the buffer is full, fwrite() returns an error, but errno is not
modified (errno==0(!)). For example, "cat /etc/termcap >/dev/pp0" will
abort with "cat: write error: Error 0" :-(.
With 3.1 everything worked well. I have tried some different parallel cards,
so it should not be a HW-problem.
Is there a bugfix or new driver available?
Greetings
--
Josef Wolf -- sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org
Germersheim, Germany
From: scott@atlanta.com (Scott M. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DPT Beta driver problems
Date: 24 Jul 1994 16:14:03 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <30u40b$f9k@cherry.atlanta.com>
Keywords: DPT driver new beta
Is anyone having continued problems with the new DPT beta driver? I still
see EATA timeouts especially when reading damaged media (a bad tape and a
scratched up CD-ROM; I can produce the error almost on demand). I've seen
at least one EATA timeout not associated with bad media--about the time I
first installed the driver.
I've got the 2122-95 with no cache and I'm using the unsupported floppy
interface. No floppy I/O was occurring when I saw the errors mentioned
above.
If no one has seen this, I'll gather more info and report it to bug_next.
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISA graphics cards for NS/I
Date: 24 Jul 1994 19:33:36 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <30ufmg$4i6@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <30sjjj$838@search01.news.aol.com>
Trestrail (trestrail@aol.com) wrote:
: I am presently running NS with the default 600X480 VGA driver and would
: like
: to upgrade to 1024X768. I understand the only graphics cards supported
: for this resolution on ISA machines are the Tseng Labs ET-4000AX and
: the STB Horizon (with Cirrus Logic GD542X chips). If someone has any
: experience with either (or both) of these cards, could you please offer
: your
: opinion on the relative quality improvement offered by them. Thanks.
Just a quick remark... you might consider purchasing a VESA Local Bus
motherboard without a processor and using it with your existing processor.
These MB's are ~$130. This will give you the freedom to select from any
of the VESA compatible boards around. (This is what I did. )
Just my $0.02
Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: asm@eecg.toronto.edu (Anees S. Munshi)
Subject: Using the IBM 2GB SCSI drive with Black Hardware (solution)
Message-ID: <1994Jul24.171302.4067@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
Summary: How to make the IBM 2GB SCSI drive work with black hardware
Keywords: IBM HDD, 2GB, SCSI, Black hardware
Date: 24 Jul 94 21:13:02 GMT
Some time ago I made inquiries about 2GB drives that were
compatible with SCSI hardware. I received few pointers, so I
decided to try the IBM 0664 2Gb drive (packaged by DynaTek). It
did not work out of the box, so I posted a question to net about
this, and received few answers again. None of them were
correct, but one was helpful.
Anyway with the help of Dynatek's engineers and the scsitools
package off the Net I managed to get this combo to work.
Assuming that others may also be interested in using a 2Gb drive
to NeXT black hardware, here's the way to do it.
The following is RTF text, because there is some formatting that
may help its readability. I don't want any RTF flames.
If you want to post this someplace, or include in an FAQ, go ahead.
Regards,
Anees Munshi
Email:asm@eecg.toronto.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
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\pard\tx520\tx1060\tx1600\tx2120\tx2660\tx3200\tx3720\tx4260\tx4800\tx5320\f8\b\i0\ulnone\qc\fs32\fc0\cf0 How to use the IBM
\fc1\cf1 0664M1H
\fc0\cf0 2 Gb SCSI drive with NeXT hardware\
\b0\ql\fs24 \
\i These instructions are provided on an as-is basis for your information. Use at your own risk. Under no circumstances will we be held responsible for problems caused by following these instructions. \
\
These instructions have only been tested to work on a NeXTstation, mono, non-turbo, running NS3.0. \
\i0 \
\b\fs32\fc1\cf1 Abstract\
\b0\fs24\fc0\cf0 These instructions were used to make NeXTstation mono, non-turbo, NS3.0, to work with an IBM 0664M1H 2Gb SCSI drive (drive firmware revision 5K51). Read this document fully before you begin working.\
\
\b\fs32\fc1\cf1 Description of Problem\
\b0\fs24\fc0\cf0 The IBM 0664M1H comes configured to disconnect/reconnect on demand, which causes problems with the NeXT. Fortunately, this feature can be disabled and kept disabled across reboots by altering the contents of one byte on a Mode page.\
\
\b\fs32\fc1\cf1 What you need\
\b0\fs24\fc0\cf0 In addition to the computer, drive, appropriate cables and terminator, you must obtain and install the
\b scsitools
\b0 package off a NeXT ftp site (sonata.cc.purdue.edu is one such). \
\
\b\fs32\fc1\cf1 Procedure\
\b0\fs24\fc0\cf0 Power off your system, attach the new drive with appropriate terminations if necessary.\
\
Power on the NeXT. After the "Checking Hardware" window disappears and is replaced by the spinning disk, hold down both Command keys and type the back-quote character (`, just above 7 on the numeric keypad). You should see a NeXT> prompt.\
\
Type halt<CR> which should yield another NeXT> prompt. Type bsd -s which will bring the machine up in single user mode, logging you in as root. During the boot procedure the computer will print the makes, model numbers and firmware revisions of all the attached harddrives.\
\
Change directory to the
\b scsitools
\b0 directory, and
\b make
\b0 the programs if necessary.\
\
Run the
\b inquire
\b0 command, which will list the attached SCSI devices, along with their target (SCSI ID numbers). Here's some example output:\
\
\pard\tx960\tx1920\tx2880\tx3840\tx4800\tx5760\tx6720\tx7680\tx8640\tx9600\f9\fs20\fc0\cf0 -t 1 -l 0 "SEAGATE /ST1480 /5736/" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2\
-t 5 -l 0 "ARCHIVE /Python 27416-XXX/3.58/" typ=1 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2 removable\
-t 6 -l 0 "IBM OEM /0664M1H /5K51/" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2\
\f8\fs24 \
Make note of the target number of the
\f9\fs20 IBM OEM /0664M1H
\fs18
\f8\fs24\fc1\cf1 entry; in the above example it is 6 (the number immediately following
\f9\fs20 -t
\f8\fs24 ). \
\
Now use the
\b sense
\b0 command to read the contents of page 2 and put the output in a file called oldsense.dat (say). The argument format for the sense command is \
\b sense -t<target> [-l<lun>] -p<pagecode>
\b0 . \
The output I got is given below.\
\
\f9\b\fs20 # sense -t6 -p2 >oldsense.dat\
\b0 \
#-INQUIRY data\
# vid /IBM OEM /\
# pid /0664M1H /\
# firm /5K51/\
-ilen 0064\
-idat 0000 00\
-idat 0001 00\
-idat 0002 02\
-idat 0003 02\
-idat 0004 9f\
-idat 0005 00\
-idat 0006 00\
-idat 0007 1e\
-idat 0008 49\
-idat 0009 42\
-idat 0010 4d\
-idat 0011 20\
-idat 0012 4f\
-idat 0013 45\
-idat 0014 4d\
-idat 0015 20\
-idat 0016 30\
-idat 0017 36\
-idat 0018 36\
-idat 0019 34\
-idat 0020 4d\
-idat 0021 31\
-idat 0022 48\
-idat 0023 20\
-idat 0024 20\
-idat 0025 20\
-idat 0026 20\
-idat 0027 20\
-idat 0028 20\
-idat 0029 20\
-idat 0030 20\
-idat 0031 20\
-idat 0032 35\
-idat 0033 4b\
-idat 0034 35\
-idat 0035 31\
-idat 0036 30\
-idat 0037 30\
-idat 0038 30\
-idat 0039 38\
-idat 0040 30\
-idat 0041 30\
-idat 0042 33\
-idat 0043 36\
-idat 0044 38\
-idat 0045 36\
-idat 0046 46\
-idat 0047 30\
-idat 0048 36\
-idat 0049 36\
-idat 0050 35\
-idat 0051 20\
-idat 0052 20\
-idat 0053 20\
-idat 0054 20\
-idat 0055 20\
-idat 0056 00\
-idat 0057 00\
-idat 0058 00\
-idat 0059 00\
-idat 0060 00\
-idat 0061 00\
-idat 0062 00\
-idat 0063 00\
#-MODE SENSE data\
-mlen 0028\
# Parameter List Header\
#mhdr offs val msk # cur msk def sav\
-mhdr 0000 1b 1b # 1b 1b 1b 1b\
-mhdr 0001 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mhdr 0002 10 10 # 10 10 10 10\
-mhdr 0003 08 08 # 08 08 08 08\
# Parameter List Block Descriptor Format\
#mbdf offs val msk # cur msk def sav\
-mbdf 0000 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mbdf 0001 3c 3c # 3c 3c 3c 3c\
-mbdf 0002 03 03 # 03 03 03 03\
-mbdf 0003 70 70 # 70 70 70 70\
-mbdf 0004 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mbdf 0005 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mbdf 0006 02 02 # 02 02 02 02\
-mbdf 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
# Page Code 02\
#mp02 offs val msk # cur msk def sav\
-mp02 0000 82 82 # 82 82 82 82\
-mp02 0001 0e 0e # 0e 0e 0e 0e\
-mp02 0002 00 ff # 00 ff 8a 00\
-mp02 0003 00 ff # 00 ff 8a 00\
-mp02 0004 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0005 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0006 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0008 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0009 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0010 00 ff # 00 ff 00 00\
-mp02 0011 00 ff # 00 ff 00 00\
\b -mp02 0012 00 03 # 00 03 00 00\
\b0 -mp02 0013 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0014 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
-mp02 0015 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
\f8\fs24 \
Note that byte 12 of page 2 (highlighted line above) has value 00 and mask 03. The value must be changed from 00 to 03.\
\
To make the necessary change, copy
\b oldsense.dat
\b0 into
\b newsense.dat
\b0 , and edit
\b newsense.dat
\b0 . Go down to the highlighted line, and change 00 in the third column to 03. The file should look like this:\
\
\f9\fs20 ...\
-mp02 0011 00 ff # 00 ff 00 00\
-mp02 0012
\b 03
\b0 03 # 00 03 00 00\
-mp02 0013 00 00 # 00 00 00 00\
...\
\f8\fs24 \
Save newsense.dat and leave the editor. Now use the
\b select
\b0 command to write newsense.dat to page 2. This is done by typing (change -t6 to whatever the target id of the IBM drive is in your case).\
\
\f9\fs20 # select -t6 -fnewsense.dat\
\
\f8\fs24 The drive can now be formatted and its filesystem built as indicated in the NeXT Admin manual.\
\
\pard\tx520\tx1060\tx1600\tx2120\tx2660\tx3200\tx3720\tx4260\tx4800\tx5320\b\fs32\fc1\cf1 Acknowledgments\
\b0\fs24\fc0\cf0 I gratefully acknowledge the help of the Dynatek Technical Support staff. They were friendly, professional, and expert. Particularly I would like to thank Saeid Yazdanmehr.\
\
I also wish to thank the authors of the scsitools collection, and all those who responded to my original question on the Net.\
\
Anees Munshi, \
Butterfly Signal Processing Inc.\
asm@eecg.toronto.edu\
}
From: smuir@ix.netcom.com (Steve Muir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DPT Beta driver problems
Date: 24 Jul 1994 22:34:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <30uq8v$gv6@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <30u40b$f9k@cherry.atlanta.com> scott@atlanta.com (Scott M. Jones) writes:
>
>Is anyone having continued problems with the new DPT beta driver? I still
>see EATA timeouts especially when reading damaged media (a bad tape and a
>scratched up CD-ROM; I can produce the error almost on demand). I've seen
>at least one EATA timeout not associated with bad media--about the time I
>first installed the driver.
>
>I've got the 2122-95 with no cache and I'm using the unsupported floppy
>interface. No floppy I/O was occurring when I saw the errors mentioned
>above.
>
>If no one has seen this, I'll gather more info and report it to bug_next.
>
>
Scott,
If you can, try an on-board floppy controller (off the motherboard). If you
don't have a floppy port on the motherboard, try using a separate card with
a floppy controller (i.e. el cheapo IDE card) while disabling the floppy
controller on the DPT. (Just thought of something: have you ever run the
DPT Manager utility?) There's a reason NS doesn't support the floppy
controllers on either the DPT or the Adaptec. They are (electrically) very
noisy, possibly interfering with other activity on the card.
The more I think of it . . . run DPT Manager and see if that solves your
problem. Also, if you can cause an EATA error on demand, try disabling the
floppy and see if you still get one. We've been using the beta drivers
(NeXT wrote them for DPT so don't ask DPT for any help -- we already tried
that 8^( ) since they came out and haven't seen a single EATA error on
either EISA or ISA boards.
Hope this helps,
Steve
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DPT Beta driver problems
Date: 24 Jul 1994 18:53:59 -0700
Message-ID: <30v5vn$qel@flotsam.ee.pdx.edu>
References: <30u40b$f9k@cherry.atlanta.com>
Keywords: DPT driver new beta
scott@atlanta.com (Scott M. Jones) writes:
>Is anyone having continued problems with the new DPT beta driver? I still
>see EATA timeouts especially when reading damaged media (a bad tape and a
>scratched up CD-ROM; I can produce the error almost on demand). I've seen
>at least one EATA timeout not associated with bad media--about the time I
>first installed the driver.
>I've got the 2122-95 with no cache and I'm using the unsupported floppy
>interface. No floppy I/O was occurring when I saw the errors mentioned
>above.
>If no one has seen this, I'll gather more info and report it to bug_next.
The following boot-up messages indicate the ongoing problems of both old and
new DPT SCSI controller driver. I am using DPT 2122/90 with no cache in an ALR
Evolution IV/e. The version of ROM BIOS and the SMARTROM are 0.002D and 0.05E,
respectively. Are these the latest ?
The problem occured when I connected an Apple CD300 CD-ROM drive to the SCSI
chain. I have reported this problem to NeXT Tech. support at least 8 months ago
and was suggested to contact DPT for any possible solution. After talking to
the DPT Tech. Support many times, they still don't have any solution but
in turn suggested me to re-contact NeXT Tech. Support and report this
persistence problem. Recently, when NeXT announced the beta version of the DPT
driver, I rushed out and FTP'ed it back to my machine then installed it. With
high hope that the problem would be addressed but, from the messages below, it
is not.
The bug report log. number to NeXT Tech. support is 52091
**************************
With NS 3.2 supplied DPT driver:
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: physical memory = 36.00 megabytes.
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: using 92 buffers containing 0.71 megabytes of memory
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: available memory = 32.54 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 1046
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: CPU: EISA id 059202c1
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: slot 3: EISA id 1214a410
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: DriverKit version 320
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Registering: PCKeyboard0
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Registering: PS2Mouse
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA controller at irq 15
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Registering: sc0
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd0: FUJITSU M2266S-512 0020
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Registering: sd0a
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd0: Device Capacity: 1029 MB
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd0: Disk Label: Disk
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd1: QUANTUM LPS525S 3110
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 1 LUN 0 at sc0
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Registering: sd1a
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 501 MB
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd1: Disk Label: Chenkosol
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: sd2: SONY CD-ROM CDU-8003A 1.9a
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
(NOTE: These repeated messages appeared after I connected the CD-ROM drive to
the SCSI chain.)
-------messages deleted
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: st: major number 8
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 17:01:03 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
(NOTE: These repeated messages will dissapear if I removed the SCSI Tape driver
from within the Configure.app or I have a DAT drive connected to the SCSI chain.)
----the rest of the boot-up messages deleted.
************************************
With the new beta version of the DPT SCSI driver.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: physical memory = 36.00 megabytes.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: using 92 buffers containing 0.71 megabytes of memory
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: available memory = 32.54 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 1046
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: CPU: EISA id 059202c1
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: slot 3: EISA id 1214a410
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: DriverKit version 320
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: PCKeyboard0
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: PS2Mouse
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: fc0
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:Stray Interrupt
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:Stray Interrupt
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: fd0
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: fd0a
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:Stray Interrupt
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:Stray Interrupt
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA controller at irq 15
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: sc0
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: FUJITSU M2266S-512 0020
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: sd0a
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Device Capacity: 1029 MB
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Disk Label: Disk
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd1: QUANTUM LPS525S 3110
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 1 LUN 0 at sc0
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: Registering: sd1a
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 501 MB
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd1: Disk Label: Chenkosol
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd2: SONY CD-ROM CDU-8003A 1.9a
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:1
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:1
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:1
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Bus Reset Detected; Retrying.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:1
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sd0: Bus Reset Detected; FATAL.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:1
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
----boot-up messages deleted.
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: st: major number 8
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Jul 24 18:00:41 localhost mach: sc0: Resetting SCSI Bus...
--- the rest of the boot-up messages deleted.
*******************************************************************
I am hoping that the above problem can be fixed before NeXT will actually
release the new version of the DPT driver.
If the NeXT Tech. Support needs more info regarding the above mentioned problem,
I will be more than happy to send them.
Sincerely,
Pitak
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISA graphics cards for NS/I
Date: 25 Jul 1994 11:02:40 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <31064g$jnb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <30sjjj$838@search01.news.aol.com>
Trestrail (trestrail@aol.com) wrote:
: I am presently running NS with the default 600X480 VGA driver and would
: like
: to upgrade to 1024X768. I understand the only graphics cards supported
: for this resolution on ISA machines are the Tseng Labs ET-4000AX and
: the STB Horizon (with Cirrus Logic GD542X chips). If someone has any
: experience with either (or both) of these cards, could you please offer
: your
: opinion on the relative quality improvement offered by them. Thanks.
I think you could also use e.g. the miro 8s ISA version. The most
important drawback is that the driver only uses the first MB on the card,
so the 2 MB version is nothing better. I remember that when we once tried
this card, performance was no _that_ bad (if you keep in mind that's only
ISA). I think it did 1024x768 at 8bit grayscale and 800x600 at 16bit color.
Just look it up on NeXTanswers (ftp.next.com).
Gregor
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Mediatrix: Where to get it in Europe ?
Date: 25 Jul 1994 11:06:59 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3106cj$jnb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Ok, even if I don't like the idea of using an OPL-x synthesizer card, the
Mediatrxi seems to be the most reasonable choice for NSfIP at the moment.
But where do I get it in Europe ??? I've never seen any advertisements
for it anywhere. Perhaps a kind soul could enlighten me ...
Gregor
PS: Anybody using the Mediatrix with an PCI motherboard ? Does it work ?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Q:How to connect a S-VHS (still) video camera to a NeXTstation/Cube
Message-ID: <1994Jul23.084246.17137@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <1994Jul21.205747.1191@arlac.rhein-main.de>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 08:42:46 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article
<1994Jul21.205747.1191@arlac.rhein-main.de> you wrote:
> Keywords: S-VHS,NeXT,still video
> Distribution: world
>
> Is there a way to connect a S-VHS video camera to a NeXTstation?
> I like to capture single frames from a S-VHS camera. The camera is able
to
> freeze a picture
> and to deliver permanently the same video signal sequence.
> Which hard/software is available to connect such a camera to the NeXT
computer?
>
> Any help is welcome
>
> Thanks,
> Markus
>
>
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> Lange Str. 59 Email:
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> 61440 Oberursel (NeXTMail welcome)
> Germany
>
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-----
Color digital eye from Metaresearch will do it for you
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (benjamin bernhard)
Subject: best backup solution (cheap)
Message-ID: <CtHyDA.Av0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:51:10 GMT
Hello all,
My nice new drive is finally getting full. I'll have to stop backing
up to my old drive.
I'm looking for a cheap tape solution- 250mb or so. What is the best
deal?
Any recommendations for good software?
I'm running black, so it will have to be scsi.
thanks,
ben
ps.
recommendations for a cheap 3 high enclosure?
--
__________________________________________________________________________
Ben Bernhard "Nothing that results from human progress
812/339-5304 (fax) is achieved with unanimous consent."
bbernhar@cs.indiana.edu ---Christopher Columbus
From: yanko@inf.utfsm.cl (Sebastian Herrera O.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: X for INTEL...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 25 Jul 1994 14:30:01 GMT
Organization: Informatika, UTFSM.
Message-ID: <310i99$eev@manutara.inf.utfsm.cl>
References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu>
Operator (root@net23.com) wrote:
: Where is a FULL X SERVER AND CLIENT distribution for NS/Intel for free.
: Mcgill and mouse x are only for black hardware.
: Not everyone is out to make money. We need to put together a free X
: package for Intel. Not a crippled demo of some commercial software, but a
: fully functional, multi-fonted, olwm, twm, fvwm, honest to god X windows
: Client and Server package.
: What's the status on this? Mail or post.
: Nick
---------------
And I sum up on this one !
A true X client is almost anything that's missing to take
over the world, in my humble opinion. Well not exactly the
world, but it's pretty nice to go saying in these days that
NeXTStep is for intels', sparcs, hp's, and even alpha's, and
this really takes over some minds, who are doubting about
taking the decision, say don't dive in yet, but are willing
to wet their toes...
But then, disgracefully, comes a point were these people inevitably
talk about their current and existing applications, and what are
they going to do with these. And you have to admit there's NO REAL
X server/clients, but commercial emulation packages, and if you
are sincere enough, you have to point that they really don't do
the job..
Well that's all, need X to finish taking over the world.
PD: I know i'm not that smart, correct my views if possible.
yanko (undergrad EE)
From: cdodson@vortex (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: X for INTEL...
Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:40:21 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <310md5$ol2@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu>
In article <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes:
> Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote:
>
> Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has
> to be up 24/7
>
> Nick
>
Then why not shell out the minimal $$$ for a real Commercial-quality
X emulator like Co-Xist from Pencom ?
We did and it works very well.
Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@zen.cac.stratus.com
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Not all NeXT printers work on all NeXTstations
Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:58:23 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <310nev$720@news.iastate.edu>
References: <30pgud$cem@news.iastate.edu>
I would like to thank Morgan D. Wise for sending me e-mail stating that
this is a known problem with the motherboard of some older NeXTstation
Color machines. The problem is these older machines can not correctly
print to most newer NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printers.
As per Morgan's suggestion, I called Bell Atlantic at 1-800-499-6389 and
they said that there is a free motherboard upgrade for the problem.
Thank you Morgan!!!
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory
College of Veterinary Medicine
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa 50011
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2694ES as a boot drive
Message-ID: <CtI6v5.H9t@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <30rq82$1tr@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:54:39 GMT
In article <30rq82$1tr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
writes:
>
> I am attempting to get said drive working in a NeXT Turbo station.
> I had no problem formatting and initializing the drive externally,
> but when I try to make it internal, it prevents other devices from
> booting somehow. "Unexpected scsi messages" are reported.
>
> If someone has done this, perhaps they can clue me in. I suspect
> that there might be a jumper I have to remove for synchronous or
> scsi-2 or somesuch mode. Or perhaps there is some other trick.
>
> Another help would be if someone can point me to somewhere on the
> net where I can find what all the jumpers and switches on the
> drive do.
Assuming that you have the SCSI target id jumpers set to zero (0),
and the drive is formatted for boot (i.e., the OS is installed),
and you really want all the gory jumper details, and the whomever
you bought the drive from won't give you the little booklet, call
Mal Steadman
Fast Access
(708) 268-8787
Addison, Illinois
and ask him to FAX you one.
However, I believe that if the drive formats and initializes as
a non-boot device, it's likely that the jumpers are correct currently.
Recheck and make sure the drive is the only SCSI device with target 0.
Recheck and make sure you initialized the drive to do an OS install.
Finally, when you say you're trying to make the drive internal, I assume
you're opening the case, removing the existing drive, and installing
the Fujitsu. To boot from the drive, you don't need to do this. Keep the
drive external, and make its SCSI target id 0, and (re)boot. If you're
going to have problems, you can detect these without opening the case.
--
personal opinions
"Why do I feel like the only tree in a kennel?"
- Murphy Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Why bother (was: Using the IBM 2GB SCSI drive with Black Hardware (solution)
Message-ID: <CtI754.HFE@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <1994Jul24.171302.4067@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 16:00:38 GMT
In article <1994Jul24.171302.4067@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> asm@eecg.toronto.edu
(Anees S. Munshi) writes:
>
> Some time ago I made inquiries about 2GB drives that were
> compatible with SCSI hardware. I received few pointers, so I
> decided to try the IBM 0664 2Gb drive (packaged by DynaTek). It
> did not work out of the box, so I posted a question to net about
> this, and received few answers again. None of them were
> correct, but one was helpful.
much bobbitized...
Why bother? Buy a Fujitsu or some other 2GB drive which works
seamlessly, plug'n'play with the NeXT out of the box.
Knowing how well NeXT has done their SCSI job, if I had to
go through all that crap to get an IBM to work, I'd chalk it
up to yet another IBM failure, get my money back, and buy
a real hard drive.
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- Murphy Brown
From: schmidtp@carleton.edu (BoltThrower)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: serial port settings for 300 baud
Date: 25 Jul 94 10:29:56 CST
Organization: Carleton College -- Northfield, MN
Message-ID: <1994Jul25.102956.1@carleton.edu>
In an attempt to hook up a Pdp-8/e to a NeXT through a serial connection, I've
run into one difficulty that I haven't quite been able to get around yet. I'm
not sure if the signal that I'm actually putting to serial port A is going
out at 300 baud. If anyone would be willing to let me know how to configure
one of the serial port so that it can transmit a signal at 300 baud, it would
be of great help. I have tried going through the man pages on ttys and zs and
various things, but I'm not sure if I'm going about this the right way.
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Subject: Cables, how long can they be? Caveats?
Message-ID: <1994Jul25.123653.33731@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Date: 25 Jul 94 12:36:53 EDT
Keywords: video, keyboard, mouse
I'm setting up three computer music studios, and I've laid in
conduit pipes so that I can install CPUs, disks, etc., in soundproofed,
ventilated closets, leaving only a monitor, keyboard, and mouse in
the studio.
My question is: how long can you run video, keyboard,
and mouse cables? I'd LIKE to run them up into the ceiling through
these conduit pipes, and down, which would end up in about a 25
foot run. Is that too far? If not, what should I look for in
choosing cables to run? Can anyone suggest vendors that would carry
this sort of high quality cable?
There was a thread about this a while ago, so if this is old news,
forgive me, and send me a summary.
Thanks,
Sean
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From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Date: 25 Jul 1994 17:01:15 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: pentium, intel motherboard, crap
I just got off the phone with Dell tech support and
was told that the Dell XPS 90 was a fairly untested in
the realm of unices and that similiar problems (system
freezes) have been expeirenced under other OSes. So be
warned, don't use an XPS system as your file server or
you maybe spending a great deal of time rebooting the
system.
They, dell tech support, think it could be something in
the #9 card. Two of the responses I recieved theorized
that it could be the cache/RAM or the flakey architecture
of the ISA bus in conjunction with the ISA DPT card.
For the person who asked, Kris Magnusson, Dell uses the
intel motherboard.
-------------- PENTIUM USERS --------------
If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
mind.
John Stanhope
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Video Input to NeXT/Intel
Message-ID: <1994Jul25.083501.21055@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <27436770@MVB.SAIC.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 08:35:01 GMT
In article <27436770@MVB.SAIC.COM> peterb@sibyl.SAIC.com (Peter Bouvier)
writes:
> Greetings:
> I'm interested in knowing if anyone has connected a live video source to
> an Intel-based machine running NeXTSTEP. I'd like to be able to capture
> video from a standard source (eg videocam), and input it to a NeXTSTEP
process.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Peter
I think that the ScreenMachine 2 could do what you want.
The european source for that card is D Art Software GMBH
You may try software@dart.de
Cheers
Fabien
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From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Message-ID: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 16:50:53 GMT
Hola,
Let's say you could get ISDN virtually immediately in your
community, and that you had NeXT Black hardware, and
you were running NeXTSTEP 3.2, with plans to upgrade
to 3.3, etc.
To run/hookup to ISDN, you'd need a digital modem (CSU-DSU)
right? And, you'd need support in the OS for ISDN, right?
So, having heard rumors that ISDN support was removed from 3.2,
and remembering that a digital modem could have been had for
NeXT Black some time ago, I ask...
Is ISDN under the above criteria doable? Now? Thoughts? Recommendations?
Thanks
--
personal opinions
"Why do I feel like the only tree in a kennel?"
- Murphy Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cunb@nvc.cc.ca.us (Michael P. Carney)
Subject: Re: HP9000 series 700 academic discounts?
Message-ID: <CtHEHA.FxL@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
References: <30pdc6$6gv@crchh921.bnr.ca>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 05:41:33 GMT
I have been working on getting a discount on a HP 9000-712/60 for over two
months now. Do not bother calling the HP direct number unless you want to pay
full retail price for the box. Your best bet is to contact a friend or a
friend of a friend who is in a mangement level position at HP. I was able
to make contact with an HP workstation manager who has been helpful.
It is very difficult to find a University that sells HP computers to students
because everybody thinks that Mac's and PC's are great. The prices that you
see for educational discounts for HP 9000 and the like are only for people
buying for the school. The school has to have a resale agreement with HP
to sell to students. I have yet to find a school that does this, but there
are a few possibilities.
Michael P. Carney <cunb@nvc.cc.ca.us> |
730 Donner Ave. NeXTMail, MIME ok. /O\
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From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2694ES as a boot drive
Date: 25 Jul 1994 17:30:49 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <310ss9$jnr@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <30rq82$1tr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <CtI6v5.H9t@txnews.amd.com>
Thanks for the suggestions.
I have the drive working internally now. I turned SW1-6 off to disable
synchronous transfers. For some reason the drive was working externally
before that, but not internally. I guess there's something different
about the internal and external SCSI connectors.
By the way, I have it set to target 1, not 0, and it works fine. I did
that intentionally in case I want to make an external device the default
boot device without opening the slab (it would be target 0).
mark
From: cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu (shem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Tseng4000 driver on Dell Optiplex
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:21:48 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <cameron1-250794122148@transient.uoregon.edu>
has anyone had any luck getting the pre-release tseng4000 driver to work on
the dell optiplex? i've tried it at different resolutions and pixel
depths, but can't get it to come up. any suggestions?
--
cameron hunziker affiliated with no one cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu
Caddy went to Winehouse and wrote a piece of farce.
Blotty words for Dublin.
jj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dkk@hrdave (att.workplace)
Subject: Fax Modem for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CtIJps.GL8@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:32:15 GMT
Folks,
Do anyone have a suggestion for a fax modem for NS-Black
Hardware, 3.1? We're looking for a modem that can be used
both for incoming fax and outgoing data calls, without
having to do systems administration. Also preferably
9600bps on the data side. Is any associated software for
terminal emulation included or does it need to be purchased?
Thanks.
Dave Kallman
----
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d_k_kallman@att.com, (800)824-3785 or (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: White H/W - dos/windows & SCSI
Date: 25 Jul 1994 14:02:57 -0700
Organization: Objects Cubed.
Message-ID: <3119a1$p8j@crl4.crl.com>
In Byte 08/94 (pp. 138, 2nd col, last para) in an article
"Flatbed Color Professionals" (REVIEWS Hardware) - "I tested both the
PowerLook and the ScanMaker on the PC using the scanners' proprietary
SCSI cards. It seems odd to have three SCSI host adapters in one
computer (one each for the hard drive, the CD-ROM drive, and the
scanner). However, if your system isn't full of cards, it may be simpler
just to install a controller dedicated to the scanner than to attempt
getting one SCSI host adapter to work with several SCSI devices."
grin..grin..grin...
Best Regards.
--chip(cnayak@crl.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Message-ID: <1994Jul25.205923.13853@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:59:23 GMT
john stanhope writes
>
> I just got off the phone with Dell tech support and
> was told that the Dell XPS 90 was a fairly untested in
> the realm of unices and that similiar problems (system
> freezes) have been expeirenced under other OSes. So be
> warned, don't use an XPS system as your file server or
> you maybe spending a great deal of time rebooting the
> system.
>
> They, dell tech support, think it could be something in
> the #9 card. Two of the responses I recieved theorized
> that it could be the cache/RAM or the flakey architecture
> of the ISA bus in conjunction with the ISA DPT card.
>
> For the person who asked, Kris Magnusson, Dell uses the
> intel motherboard.
>
> -------------- PENTIUM USERS --------------
>
> If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
> 90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
> speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
> using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
> I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
> mind.
>
Sorry for quoting the entire article, but I thought it was worth repeating. I
just got a 90MHz Pentium and am having problems with crashes as well (crashing
while in PB no less). I have the Intel Premier PCI-ii 90MHz board (the 2nd
board I had - the first one was the Super P54VL-PCI board using the OPTi
chipset) with a DPT 2021 ISA SCSI controller. In the 2 days that I have been
using this motherboard, it has crashed twice. Both times it does not panic,
just gives me an nmi monitor window. I also had a problem with this board
because it has two on-board IDE controllers (one PCI, one ISA), and the ISA
controller is set up at port 0x170 which is the same port as the default
settings on the DPT (and where NEXTSTEP expects it to be). Using another
machine with my drive, I was able to change the driver settings to one of the
alternate ports on the DPT and got it working. But if I want to re-install I
am SOL (without another machine) unless I duplicate the install disk and change
the default settings there as well (and also change my Default.config settings
so I can do config=Default if I screw up my drivers). Anyway, I will probably
switch the DPT for an NCR based PCI board with the Talus drivers (hopefully
that will solve my sound problems as well).
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete Helme)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Date: 26 Jul 1994 00:20:58 GMT
Organization: General Magic, Inc.
Sender: %.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <311kta$p6b@gatekeep.genmagic.com>
References: <30g1rf$c9h@yucca.omnigroup.com>
<30q63p$qri@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
> BTW, if you're a developer, be SURE to call HP's developer program and
> get the massive discount. I don't think I can quote the rate, but it
> basically makes buying any other machine insane.
What does the term "developer" mean to HP?
From: starksm@genesis.mcs.com (Scott M. Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Date: 26 Jul 1994 00:45:29 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <311mb9$hut@News1.mcs.com>
References: <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: XPS
In article <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john
stanhope) writes:
>
> I just got off the phone with Dell tech support and
> was told that the Dell XPS 90 was a fairly untested in
> the realm of unices and that similiar problems (system
> freezes) have been expeirenced under other OSes. So be
> warned, don't use an XPS system as your file server or
> you maybe spending a great deal of time rebooting the
> system.
>
> They, dell tech support, think it could be something in
> the #9 card. Two of the responses I recieved theorized
> that it could be the cache/RAM or the flakey architecture
> of the ISA bus in conjunction with the ISA DPT card.
>
> For the person who asked, Kris Magnusson, Dell uses the
> intel motherboard.
>
> -------------- PENTIUM USERS --------------
>
> If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
> 90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
> speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
> using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
> I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
> mind.
>
> John Stanhope
I am using a Dell XPS90, #9 video, Adaptec 1542CF scsi controller and I
am not having the freeze problems you speak of. I am however having
problems with sound breaking up. When I replaced the 1542CF with a DPT
2011 the sound was much better. I am currently still using the 1542CF
because the DPT card was out of my machine at home and the sound problem
was not that annoying.
Scott
--
Scott Stark
Stark International Software
4950 N. Marine Dr.
#102
Chicago, IL 60640
starksm@genesis.mcs.com (NeXT mail accepted)
From: David.Halliday@ASU.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: VL SCSI cards for NS
Date: 25 Jul 94 16:08:47
Organization: College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, ASU
Message-ID: <Dave.94Jul2516847@ournext>
References: <Jul.22.20.16.14.1994.5305@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In post <Jul.22.20.16.14.1994.5305@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, John Kheit
<kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> said/asked:
>Hi All,
> Does anyone know of any VL SCSI cards that will work with NS? I prefer
>EISA, but its just too much more $$ for an eisa system, thus I have to get a
>VLB/ISA system. I could just get a SCSI card via ISA bus, but I want my 16 bit
>sound to work, and from what I understand the ISA SCSI and Sound Cards dont
>work together--which is why I want to get a VL SCSI card--so I can use a PAS16.
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
>Later, John
I am planning on getting the Bus Logic BT445S VL-Bus SCSI Card. For NS
3.2 it is used with the updated Adaptec 1542B driver (NeXTAnswers 1520 and
1521). I haven't obtained the card (or put the rest of my system together yet) so I
cannot guarantee anything, but it supposedly works (according to the Hardware
Compatibility Guide).
Hope this helps.
David Halliday
David.Halliday@ASU.Edu
(NeXT Mail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Message-ID: <CtIvz5.15y@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <311kta$p6b@gatekeep.genmagic.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 00:57:03 GMT
In article <311kta$p6b@gatekeep.genmagic.com> pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete
Helme) writes:
>>> BTW, if you're a developer, be SURE to call HP's developer program and
>>> get the massive discount. I don't think I can quote the rate, but it
>>> basically makes buying any other machine insane.
>>
>>What does the term "developer" mean to HP?
>>
>>
I think it means you give 'em $695.
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: dario@osmin.cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Data acquisition for Intel machines w/NS
Date: 25 Jul 1994 22:29:57 GMT
Organization: New York University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <311ed5$1av@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Does anyone know of any commercial data acquisition systems
for Intel machines running NextStep?
Thanks....
--
Dario
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fan question...
Message-ID: <1994Jul25.164729.27441@miavx1>
From: jbfink@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Deus Ex Machina)
Date: 25 Jul 94 16:47:29 -0500
Organization: Searching for my Muse
Got a fan question for all you hardware gurus out there. An associate and I
have recently 'inherited' the sysadmin-ship of seven 68030 cubes and were
wondering if it's possible and/or advisable to turn the cube fan around so that
it blow air OUT the front instead of sucking air through. The reason we're
concerned about this is the amazing amount of dust that collects inside the box
and the floptical drive, and we'd like to keep things nice and clean. Is it a
Good Thing to turn that fan around?
Please respond to jbfink@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu as I get sporadic access to
USENET. Thanks.
-- adder
jbfink@miavx1.muohio.edu
jbfink@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Message-ID: <bchin.775168752@news.andi.org>
Keywords: pentium, intel motherboard, crap
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:39:12 GMT
jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) writes:
> -------------- PENTIUM USERS --------------
>If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
>90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
>speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
>using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
>I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
>mind.
At NSX, we borrowed a JCIS 66mhz Pentium machine with a
P9100 PCI card (the Shark) and a DPT 2021 ISA SCSI controller
hooked up to an old Quantum 540mb HD. It worked fine throughout
the show (and changing to a bus mouse made it feel a hell of
a lot better too). The motherboard was an Intel.
..Bill Chin
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From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Subject: Using Hayes' 2400 baud smartmodem on nextstation.
Message-ID: <1994Jul25.152850.16081@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 15:28:50 GMT
I have an antique 2400 baud Hayes smartmodem that has been
used on a Mac. Is it possible to use this with a nextstation?
What kind of software would I need?
TIm
--
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Dept. of Economics, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Subject: Using an NEC CDR-25BJ CD-ROM with nextstation.
Message-ID: <1994Jul25.204105.5353@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:41:05 GMT
I have just purchased a new, NEC CDR-25BJ CD-ROM drive.
This is a cheap, slow, portable drive.
But I am hoping to get this thing working with my
nextstation, so that I can use it occasionally to
upgrade the system software.
Just plugging it in doesn't work. SCSIInquirer can make
the disc spin, but it reports "no device".
Any advice?
Thanks.
Tim
--
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Dept. of Economics, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 crashing everyday
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Date: 26 Jul 1994 03:30:51 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31201b$5tm@news.bu.edu>
References: <30sadh$g8l@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
john stanhope (jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu) wrote:
: I purchased a Dell Dimensio XPS 90 recently and moved my harddrive +
: DPT scsi controller from my old Dell 450DE (EISA bus). Everything works
: fine except that the damn thing crashes about once a day.
: Anyway, do you, the net, think I should find a way to reinstall NS or is
: it the DPT scsi card and do I have to wait and see if NeXT can deliver a
: stable driver? BTW I never had a crash on the Dell 450 DE.
Since asking a few questions that pertained to the DGX (which is a Dell DE
with the JAWS graphics card), I've had quite a few responses and collected an
interesting collection of information about the machine. Its apparently the
machine that NeXT used to make the 486 port, so a lot of time was spent on
its drivers and NS is about as stable on this system as it will ever be on
Intel hardware, where there is such a huge collection of possible configuration
options.
OTOH while the new Dell machines are fast and nice, the graphics subsystems in
them seem pretty much middle of the road. Dunno, how do you find it, in
contrast with your previous system? (I'm assuming you had the JAWS card in
your DE).
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Date: 25 Jul 1994 23:03:41 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com>
charles.herrick@amd.com writes:
> Let's say you could get ISDN virtually immediately in your
> community, and that you had NeXT Black hardware, and you were
> running NeXTSTEP 3.2, with plans to upgrade to 3.3, etc.
Well, not "virtually immediately" for me, but "maybe, perhaps,
sometime soon".
> To run/hookup to ISDN, you'd need a digital modem (CSU-DSU)
> right? And, you'd need support in the OS for ISDN, right?
>
> So, having heard rumors that ISDN support was removed from 3.2,
> and remembering that a digital modem could have been had for NeXT
> Black some time ago, I ask...
>
> Is ISDN under the above criteria doable? Now? Thoughts?
> Recommendations?
Ugh. Was ISDN support removed? I wouldn't have been paying
attention to that at the time. You mean it's no longer possible
to get one of those Hayes ISDN System adaptors that hooked up to
the DSP port? The ones NeXTconnection always used to advertise?
[digs out ad to find:] The ones that used to cost $1200 or so?
(ouch - I thought it was cheaper than that!)
Well, anyway, you don't necessarily have to buy one of those,
there's other products available too. You can get something
called a Combinet, which (apparently) is ISDN on one side and
an ethernet connection on the other. Hook up your NeXT to
the ethernet side...
I imagine the proper place to talk about these things is in
the comp.dcom.isdn newsgroup, but I'd be interested in
hearing whatever you turn up. I *was* interested in this
Hayes ISDN box, but I had the impression that it was cheaper
than it seems to be. Anyone know if support for that actually
disappeared on the way to NS-3.2?
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Message-ID: <bchin.775196757@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 04:25:57 GMT
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
>charles.herrick@amd.com writes:
>> Let's say you could get ISDN virtually immediately in your
>> community, and that you had NeXT Black hardware, and you were
>> running NeXTSTEP 3.2, with plans to upgrade to 3.3, etc.
>Well, not "virtually immediately" for me, but "maybe, perhaps,
>sometime soon".
Actually, here in Washington D.C., they'll do ISDN as fast as
POTS hookups. It's only a ~$30 additional install charge
plus about another $20-$30/month + usage charges here. The
tariffs change a lot between different RBOCs and regions.
>> To run/hookup to ISDN, you'd need a digital modem (CSU-DSU)
>> right? And, you'd need support in the OS for ISDN, right?
The proper term is ISDN Terminal Adapter. You'll also need a
NT-1, power supply (preferably with battery backup - if the power
goes out, your digital phone is out too w/o it). If you are going
to use it for normal voice service, you'll need an ISDN handset too.
You don't need ISDN support in the OS unless you're talking about
drivers for specialized internal boards. Many ISDN products can act like
analog modems and hook up through the serial port. Others provide
ethernet interfaces (more like hardware bridges or routers).
>> So, having heard rumors that ISDN support was removed from 3.2,
>> and remembering that a digital modem could have been had for NeXT
>> Black some time ago, I ask...
>>
>> Is ISDN under the above criteria doable? Now? Thoughts?
>> Recommendations?
>Ugh. Was ISDN support removed? I wouldn't have been paying
>attention to that at the time. You mean it's no longer possible
>to get one of those Hayes ISDN System adaptors that hooked up to
>the DSP port? The ones NeXTconnection always used to advertise?
>[digs out ad to find:] The ones that used to cost $1200 or so?
>(ouch - I thought it was cheaper than that!)
Yup... PhoneKit is not part of 3.1 or 3.2. I never did get
the Hayes ISDN Extenders to work (at ANDI). It did make
alls sorts of neat DTMF sounds, but no connection. We do have
some Hayes ISDN System Adapters - they were originally $1200 but
I think Hayes sells them for $600 now. However, they are limited
to only 38.4kbps over asynchronous serial line. Not very good.
Using say, an Adtran TA, you'll want to get the TTYDSP so that
you can talk to it at 115kbps on black hardware. On white,
it's probably better to go the ethernet route.
>Well, anyway, you don't necessarily have to buy one of those,
>there's other products available too. You can get something
>called a Combinet, which (apparently) is ISDN on one side and
>an ethernet connection on the other. Hook up your NeXT to
>the ethernet side...
>I imagine the proper place to talk about these things is in
>the comp.dcom.isdn newsgroup, but I'd be interested in
>hearing whatever you turn up. I *was* interested in this
>Hayes ISDN box, but I had the impression that it was cheaper
>than it seems to be. Anyone know if support for that actually
>disappeared on the way to NS-3.2?
Definitely check out the comp.dcom.isdn group. There are more
and more products; ISDN is definitely becoming affordable.
Now, if only there wasn't a $0.05/minute tariff for data calls
(beyond the CO in Bell Atlantic land)...
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 26 Jul 1994 01:11:39 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <3125ub$gli@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory built around the World Wide Web system,
this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP
developers, as well as the ability to browse the available
products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://digifix.digifix.com/
it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com)
or Mosaic.
The entries are coming in quite quickly, and currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will
be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@digifix.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Date: 26 Jul 1994 05:35:30 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3127b2$emm@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
john stanhope (jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu) wrote:
: They, dell tech support, think it could be something in
: the #9 card. Two of the responses I recieved theorized
: that it could be the cache/RAM or the flakey architecture
: of the ISA bus in conjunction with the ISA DPT card.
: If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
: 90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
: speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
: using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
: I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
: mind.
: John Stanhope
I had the very same problem with my Zenon machine with the new Intel Premiere
motherboard. It would stay up about two hours and then crash *hard*, usually
with some wild-assed panic like "arithmetic exception error." (It usually
crashed sooner playing Doom, not incongruously.)
I narrowed it down to either general incompatibilities with the motherboard, a
bad CPU, bad cache, or bad RAM through swapping out components. The last thing
I tried was yanking two of the four 8 MB SIMMs, dropping my machine down to
16 MBs. Since then the machine has been *perfectly* stable. It's more stable
than my old slab, which was reliable.
My advice to people having system crashes is to try swapping the RAM to see if
that makes any difference. Also, poor heat dissipation could be a problem too.
I've seen machines lock up like bad clockwork due to excess heat--a couple of
well-placed fans can't hurt.
.........................kris
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2694ES as a boot drive
Date: 26 Jul 1994 07:23:44 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <312dm0$nco@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <30rq82$1tr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <CtI6v5.H9t@txnews.amd.com>
In article <CtI6v5.H9t@txnews.amd.com>, <charles.herrick@amd.com> wrote:
>Assuming that you have the SCSI target id jumpers set to zero (0),
>and the drive is formatted for boot (i.e., the OS is installed),
>and you really want all the gory jumper details, and the whomever
>you bought the drive from won't give you the little booklet, call
[munch]
I believe NeXT recommends that the internal drive have a SCSI id of one (1).
This then facilitates a large external boot disk. ie. set the large
external disk to id zero (0) and the machine will then boot off the
external instead of the internal.
That's all I know today. Ask me tomorrow, and I might know something
else! :-)
RWW.
--
Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ,
University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and
collector of titles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: Black Monitor Dead!?
Message-ID: <CtHyru.75v@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <CtEK16.6H2@ncifcrf.gov>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 12:59:54 GMT
In article <CtEK16.6H2@ncifcrf.gov> kelman@ncifcrf.gov (David Kelman) writes:
> Hello,
>
>
> It appears that my monitor (FIMI) has died. It had been having
> 'glitches' for the last week, where there would be a band of disturbance
across
> the screen for a second, then it would go away. Last evening, I was working
> along when there was a bright spot in the middle of the screen, and then the
> monitor went black. It has not come back on since. The question is, is
this
> a dead monitor or a dead video system on the motherboard? The other
question is
> what is Bell Atlantic's number? I don't have another NeXT to try out the
> monitor on to distinguish between monitor dead and video curcuits dead,
though
> the machine will come on and boot fine, as well as I can tell without a
monitor.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Kelman
> kelman@fconvx.ncifcrf.gov
> kelman@fcrfv1.ncifcrf.gov
>
Precisely this happened to my monitor. It was a power supply problem. I sent
it to Bell Atlantic. If I had to do it over again, I'd buy a new or used one
instead, as Bell is expensivo....
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@net23.com (Operator)
Subject: Re: X for INTEL...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
References: <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> <310md5$ol2@transfer.stratus.com>
Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News)
Organization: Network 23, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:35:28 GMT
Message-ID: <CtJH76.65x@spcuna.spc.edu>
R. Craig Dodson (cdodson@vortex) wrote:
: In article <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes:
: > Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote:
: >
: > Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has
: > to be up 24/7
: >
: > Nick
: >
: Then why not shell out the minimal $$$ for a real Commercial-quality
: X emulator like Co-Xist from Pencom ?
: We did and it works very well.
: Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
: cdodson@zen.cac.stratus.com
Is CUBX or CO-XIST better?
--
Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider
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Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: root@net23.com (Operator)
Subject: PPP, DOES IT EXIST?!?
Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News)
Organization: Network 23, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:40:52 GMT
Message-ID: <CtJHG5.6An@spcuna.spc.edu>
Hey all. me again
Well, now I'm looking for a GOOD PPP package
The one called "Alby" is just a hacked normal ppp dist that everyone and
their gramma has, and uses the chat script to dial out. It's very kludgy
and not pretty and doesn't work too well.
Is there anything else out their for free?
How is Morningstar's next package? cost?
What's out there?
mail or post
Nick
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From: cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Date: 26 Jul 1994 09:05:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
After a clean shutdown over the weekend, all my poor old color station can
say at boot time is "Waiting for device to come ready . . . "
This is a model with an internal 105M drive, no other SCSI peripherals.
Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
Charles Clark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Subject: Repair of DIT Cube Floppy
Message-ID: <CtJ65I.4Au@fafnir.com>
Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 04:36:53 GMT
I have a DIT CubeFloppy 2.9 that's getting pretty flaky. Can anyone
repair these?
--
What I did must have been right, or an angel would
have stopped me, just as the angel stopped Abraham
in the Bible. -- Albert Fish, the cannibal
Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Fax Modem for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.092232.18005@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <CtIJps.GL8@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:22:32 GMT
dkk@hrdave (att.workplace) writes:
>Folks,
>Do anyone have a suggestion for a fax modem for NS-Black
>Hardware, 3.1? We're looking for a modem that can be used
>both for incoming fax and outgoing data calls, without
>having to do systems administration. Also preferably
>9600bps on the data side. Is any associated software for
>terminal emulation included or does it need to be purchased?
A very "strong" combination was always and still is the ZyXEL 1496
together with NXFax of Black&White software. I use it myself for
all the points you mention. Maybe not the cheapest solution, but
a very good working and easy to use one.
Willem
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: hdwoernd@faui06e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:09:38 +0200
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <312ue2$dg9@faui06e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
References: <neuss.774556511@budlight> <30fob4$4h@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <neuss.774556511@budlight> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
>writes:
>> Rumor sez 8bit color support - that means color on Laptops.
>> Three cheers!
>Not a rumor, NEC has a driver for it's 8-bit color notebook
>computer (75MHz DX4) running NEXTSTEP/Intel. I saw it at
>the Expo, and it looked quite reasonable for 8-bit color.
Next developed Software Dithering for 8-bit color. I saw the HP-gecko
working with 8-bit hardware-dithering and 8-bit software-dithering.
Software looks fine, but hardware-dithering looked like 24-bit on the
715/125.
I think, performance on PC-Cards (ATI, S3, ...) with dithering will
be higher than at 16 Bit, but memory-requirements will be blown up
to more than 24 Megs. (Because I think that NS image buffers stay
32 bit at 8 bit dithering.)
================================================
Harald Woerndl-Acihriedler
phone: +49 / 9131 / 25407
email: hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: even more ISA graphic cards for NSfIP
Date: 26 Jul 1994 15:14:33 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <31398p$dkb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Just get the document "1661_ELSAWINNERDisplayDriver.ReadMe.rtf" from
NeXTanswers. Best money can buy for ISA at the moment seems to be the
WINNER2000-4 ISA with 4MB VRAM and 170MHz DAC.
I'd like to know how many seconds it takes to clear the screen in
1408x1024/8bit ;-) ?
Gregor
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Subject: Comments on this setup
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.105008.33747@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Date: 26 Jul 94 10:50:08 EDT
Keywords: comments
I'm about to purchase three Pentium systems for NS-FIP. I would appreciate
any comments people have about this configuration. I don't know if there
is any netiquette against quoting prices, so, let me know, and
forgive me for doing so.
--Sean
From Dell:
Dell Dimension Pentium 90/XPS, Mini Tower
8 Megs RAM
528 MB IDE Drive
#9 GXE Video Board - 2mb
Sony CPD 1730 17" Monitor (or should I go for the GDM-17SE?)
Dell System Mouse
Keyboard
SMC Ethernet Plus (if they have it, I was quoted the SMC Ultra)
--apparently there are problems with this setup and the Intel EtherExpress
(This deal also comes with a Panasonic IDE CD-ROM drive, which is useless
to me, but the price is cheaper WITH it)
Price: around $3400
From Talus:
NCR PCI SCSI card with fast/wide option, and maybe their deal
with a 1 gig Fujitsu fast SCSI II drive.
From the Chip Merchant:
2 16 meg 72 pin SIMMS
Price: around $1200
People who want the prices from Talus can contact them. They seem to
be very good. This is the cheapest deal I have found so far with the
most bang for the buck. I may end up buying 16 megs from Dell, just
so I can save a little money and have 32 megs total versus 40 (The
current deal comes with 2 4 meg SIMMS from Dell.)
This system will be used as a computer music workstation, so video
performance is not my priority. Audio, however, has turned out to
be a real dilemma. My latest decision is to go with the low-fi
ProAudioBasic, which has a "basically" working driver, and then
move up to a Turtle Beach Monterey, Tahiti, and/or a Digital
Audio Labs "Digital Only" card, when someone, probably Talus
writes a driver for them.
Thank you all for your help, and please contact me directly if you
have any questions.
Sean
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.150621.1076@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Keywords: pentium, intel motherboard, crap
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 15:06:21 GMT
In article <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@mail.vt.edu writes:
> -------------- PENTIUM USERS --------------
>
>If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
>90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
>speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
>using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
>I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
>mind.
>
I have seen this on one of our JCIS P/66 machines, and our Zenon P/90.
Both are PCI/ISA based. Both have PCI SCSI and video controllers. Both
used the same Intel EtherExpress card.
Neither machine hangs when the covers are off (or rather, I have not
seen either hang when the cover is off). When the Zenon when down, a
wire had fallen into the CPU fan (ack!) stopping it, which leads me to
believe that heat is a problem in these machines.
PCs suck. They have many nice features, but they basically suck. They
are what they are.
- db
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millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Fax Modem for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CtK2s3.Cz3@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <1994Jul26.092232.18005@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 16:21:37 GMT
In article <1994Jul26.092232.18005@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> dkk@hrdave (att.workplace) writes:
>
> >Folks,
>
> >Do anyone have a suggestion for a fax modem for NS-Black
> >Hardware, 3.1? We're looking for a modem that can be used
> >both for incoming fax and outgoing data calls, without
> >having to do systems administration. Also preferably
> >9600bps on the data side. Is any associated software for
> >terminal emulation included or does it need to be purchased?
>
> A very "strong" combination was always and still is the ZyXEL 1496
> together with NXFax of Black&White software. I use it myself for
> all the points you mention. Maybe not the cheapest solution, but
> a very good working and easy to use one.
Just to second Willem's point,
I just purchased a used ZyXEL 1496, which had an older version of the
EPROM and socket/board, along with Black&White software's NXFAX.
The people at Black&White sold me the cable I needed, and would have sold me
the ZyXEL modem had I not already bought one. Black&White will sell you the
modem, cable, and NXFAX at a bundled price.
Also, Black&White referred me cheerfully to ZyXEL for an upgrade to my modem,
and I now have the RMA from ZyXEL, which has their service operations in
Anaheim, Calif.
here's the contact info for Black&White. They're in Vermont, USA.
Black&White
(802) 496-8500
sue@bandw.com
here's the contact for ZyXEL in Anaheim, CA
ZyXEL
(800) 255-4101
for service, ask to speak to Geneva Pinkton
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: PPP, DOES IT EXIST?!?
Message-ID: <CtK3zK.DAq@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <CtJHG5.6An@spcuna.spc.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 16:47:42 GMT
In article <CtJHG5.6An@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes:
> How is Morningstar's next package?
highly recommended.
>cost?
$400.00 from Morningstar.
However :-)
PSI has a new package called InterRamp, which runs via PPP.
If your client is a Unix box (incl. NeXT), they'll sell you
the PPP software for $231. Guess who makes the PPP package:
you guessed it, Morningstar.
Buy InterRamp, get the software, pay the initial charge ($28.00),
then cancel if you so choose.
PSI
(800) 827-7482
--
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"Why do I feel like the only tree in a kennel?"
- Murphy Brown
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: HP NeXTStep - Mach foundation or HP-UX?
Date: 26 Jul 1994 17:28:15 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <313h3f$7h7@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <30p2fk$eki@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
I don't think you *could* port OpenStep to HP UX as it is.
Roland
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From: aaron@algernon.tbyte.com (Aaron Greene)
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.175057.22063@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
References: <3127b2$emm@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:50:57 GMT
In article <3127b2$emm@hamblin.math.byu.edu> kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu
(Kristopher Jon Magnusson) writes:
> john stanhope (jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu) wrote:
>
> : They, dell tech support, think it could be something in
> : the #9 card. Two of the responses I recieved theorized
> : that it could be the cache/RAM or the flakey architecture
> : of the ISA bus in conjunction with the ISA DPT card.
>
> : If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
> : 90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
> : speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
> : using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
> : I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
> : mind.
>
> : John Stanhope
>
We have two Dell XPS90 systems running here with no lockup problems
whatsoever. We are running an ISA 1542C SCSI controller and a Diamond
Viper PCI video card. We have not had any problems with lockups yet. We
of course had problems with the PCI IDE Hard Drives on the Dells, but when
we went to the SCSI drives everything is fine.
Aaron Greene
Net Admin
Trilobyte
aaron@tbyte.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: aaron@algernon.tbyte.com (Aaron Greene)
Subject: The #9GXE Pro 64: Good/Bad/Ugly?
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.175420.22152@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 17:54:20 GMT
We are about to buy another Dell XPS90 system, and would like to use the
#9 card that comes with it. The last time we tried a #9 card it was the
3MB version which made our pentium seem like a 286. We have been
replacing the cards with Diamond Viper PCI cards, but that leaves us with
extra PCI video cards that we can't use in other machines.
I know several people have tried them, if you could e-mail your feelings I
would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Aaron Greene
Net Admin
Trilobyte
aaron@tbyte.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:58:34 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4iBIv_G00iV8E4eeRp@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <311kta$p6b@gatekeep.genmagic.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Jul-94 Re: WANTED:
technical answe.. by Pete Helme@genmagic.com
> > BTW, if you're a developer, be SURE to call HP's developer program and
> > get the massive discount. I don't think I can quote the rate, but it
> > basically makes buying any other machine insane.
>
> What does the term "developer" mean to HP?
A minimum of: "I am writing software and/or consulting for <company>,
which has enough HP machines that HP notices." Actually, HP does have a
developer program; I would assume that being a member would also qualify.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and"
--------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...."
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu |
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From: ep-baro@ophelia.tuwien.ac.at (D. Baron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [intel]error writing to harddisk while installing.
Date: 26 Jul 1994 18:49:42 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <313ls6$ckh@news.tuwien.ac.at>
while installing (or trying to) nextstep on intel, i get screenful0s of
the following error message while writing to (ide) disk:
ide: IdeFlushInitMesg: Stray Interrupt: ReadMultiple
ide: SoftResetIde: DiagError 0x1
Ide Drive 0 using MultiSectorMode
and sooner or later it throws a kernel panic.
i've tried it with two pcs (only the harddisk (seagate 450M ide
(cylinders: 1018, heads: 14, sectors: 62)), adapdec 1542b and cdrom
drive (nec 83)) were the same. (one of the two pcs was a dec-pc, whose
configuration (execpt for the harddisk) is completely certified.)
any ideas what that means, and more important, what i can do about it?
thanks in advace,
dieter
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From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Cables, how long can they be? Caveats?
Message-ID: <CtJtou.2vs@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <1994Jul25.123653.33731@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:05:17 GMT
In article <1994Jul25.123653.33731@hulaw1.harvard.edu> writes:
>
[...]
> My question is: how long can you run video, keyboard,
> and mouse cables?
I'm using a self-made cable of 5.5 meters to connect
keyboard/mouse/monitor to a black monochrome station. The only thing I had
to deal with was putting the video signal in a seperate shielded cable. No
problems since Nov '93.
Cheers,
Axel
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kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
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FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Date: 26 Jul 1994 18:40:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <313lbc$pp3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles
Winthrop Clark) writes:
> Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
Try everything else before submitting to Bell Atlantic's highway robbery
prices. There are several other companies buying and selling used and
refurbished NeXT equipment: Pixellated Technologies, Paradigm Shift
Corporation, and Dancing Bear Enterprises, just to name a few.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Cables, how long can they be? Caveats?
Message-ID: <CtKB96.Lo@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Jul25.123653.33731@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 19:24:42 GMT
In article <1994Jul25.123653.33731@hulaw1.harvard.edu> writes:
>
> I'm setting up three computer music studios, and I've laid in
> conduit pipes so that I can install CPUs, disks, etc., in soundproofed,
> ventilated closets, leaving only a monitor, keyboard, and mouse in
> the studio.
>
> My question is: how long can you run video, keyboard,
> and mouse cables? I'd LIKE to run them up into the ceiling through
> these conduit pipes, and down, which would end up in about a 25
> foot run. Is that too far? If not, what should I look for in
> choosing cables to run? Can anyone suggest vendors that would carry
> this sort of high quality cable?
>
> There was a thread about this a while ago, so if this is old news,
> forgive me, and send me a summary.
ok, here's what I seem to remember:
monitor-cable: max. 3m,
ns-printer cable: max. ~100m (or was that feet?), but only in multiples of whatever.
I have the original essage, am just too lazy to dig it up as you asked for monitors and the likes.
Juergen
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Fax Modem for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CtKBKD.Mn@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <CtIJps.GL8@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 19:31:24 GMT
In article <CtIJps.GL8@nntpa.cb.att.com> dkk@hrdave (att.workplace) writes:
> Folks,
>
> Do anyone have a suggestion for a fax modem for NS-Black
> Hardware, 3.1? We're looking for a modem that can be used
> both for incoming fax and outgoing data calls, without
> having to do systems administration. Also preferably
> 9600bps on the data side. Is any associated software for
> terminal emulation included or does it need to be purchased?
I am happy with Zyxel E+ and NXFax software. runs out of the box.
Make sure to get a serial cable which supports harware flow-control.
black&white used to sell packages.
try
Linda Rosen linda@bandw.com
Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
or don't.
terminal emulation - hm, that covers a wide range...
you can always get kermit for free,
there is also pcomm. Both run in a Terminal.app window.
If you want anything with a nifty GUI - there are quite some products out there but they all seem
to cost more or less money.
Yours to decide if it's worth $$ to you.
Juergen
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== What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: Cables, how long can they be? Caveats?
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.182552.29038@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <1994Jul25.123653.33731@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 18:25:52 GMT
Sean Anthony Varah (cello@mario.harvard.edu) wrote:
: My question is: how long can you run video, keyboard,
: and mouse cables? I'd LIKE to run them up into the ceiling through
: these conduit pipes, and down, which would end up in about a 25
: foot run. Is that too far? If not, what should I look for in
: choosing cables to run? Can anyone suggest vendors that would carry
: this sort of high quality cable?
For Intel hardware, you can even buy off-the-shelf components that
carry signal for 250 feet. Try "Cybex" at 205-430-4000 or "RCI" at
908-874-4072. Their basic business is "one keyboard/monitor to many
machines", but your application should be up their alley. Caveat: I
have never used their stuff.
Brian Hess
Active Ingredients, Inc.
bnh@active.com
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Modem / serial port problems ?
Date: 26 Jul 1994 21:07:22 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <313tuaINNdcr@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
My phone line went dead, and after investigation, I found
that whenever I plugged my modem into the serial port of
my monostation, the phone line would go dead. I posted this
question before, and most posters responded that it sounded
like a bad modem. I took the modem into a repair shop, and
they couldn't find anything wrong with it (or so they say).
Here's the scoop: When I try to dial out, I hear a lot of
static and noise through the modem, usually turning into a
shrill tone. If I plug a phone into the wall jack, I can
dial out with no problem. If I plug the modem into the wall
jack, but not into the serial port, the phone line still
works. Note: all equipment (modem and computer are off when
doing this). If I plug the modem into the serial port, the
phone line goes dead (everything is still off!!). When I
power up and do a self check on the modem, it fails one test
and not the second. The manual says this indicates a failed
DTE. Therefore, I think either my cable has developed a
short and is grounding out my phone line and serial port,
or my serial port chip has gone bad (both ports exhibit this
problem). Since it cost me $25 just to tell me my modem
was okay, is there a simple test I can perform on my serial
connection and my cable to determing which one is causing
the problem? If you think I am totally on the wrong track,
please feel free to speak up.
Thanks in advance,
Bruce Patton
(bwp@engin.umich.edu)
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Hardware Support in 3.3?
Date: 26 Jul 1994 19:48:26 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <313pab$9gm@rosie.next.com>
References: <312ue2$dg9@faui06e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
In article <312ue2$dg9@faui06e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
hdwoernd@faui06e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler)
writes:
> I think, performance on PC-Cards (ATI, S3, ...) with dithering will
> be higher than at 16 Bit, but memory-requirements will be blown up
> to more than 24 Megs. (Because I think that NS image buffers stay
> 32 bit at 8 bit dithering.)
>
By default, backing store depth is limited to match screen depth. An app
has to take very specific steps to let a window's depth be more than the
screen depth.
The last thing I want is to use more memory than is absolutely needed.
Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM
----
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Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility,
and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer.
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From: jeffh@phx.mcd.mot.com (Jeff Huff(summer student))
Subject: 2.88 MB floppy support on NS3.2FIP???
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.163933.19600@phx.mcd.mot.com>
Sender: news@phx.mcd.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 16:39:33 GMT
If an intel NeXTSTEP machine had a highcapacity floppy controller and a teac
2.88 MB floppy disk drive, could you transport file from Black hardware to the
intel machine? Does NS3.2FIP support formating of 2.88 MB floppy's????
Thanks in Advance-----
Jeff Huff
jhuff@next.mc.maricopa.edu
jeffh@phx.mcd.mot.com
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Date: 26 Jul 1994 19:09:24 GMT
Organization: welcome to nowhere...
Message-ID: <CHRIS.94Jul26210924arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<bchin.775196757@news.andi.org>
In-reply-to: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org's message of Tue, 26 Jul 1994 04:25:57 GMT
Originator: ARKIN@nice
In article <bchin.775196757@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
> Using say, an Adtran TA, you'll want to get the TTYDSP so that
> you can talk to it at 115kbps on black hardware.
does this work ? have you tried it ? can one use ppp or slip with
ttydsp ?
christian
From: ric-mommer@uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ## NS/i Display options ##
Date: 26 Jul 1994 21:57:38 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3140si$ofc@nexus.uiowa.edu>
What is the best adapter card available for NEXTSTEP/Intel? Where can I
get it? I have heard of the Miro, but can't find one.
Also, Is the Viewsonic 17" display better than the Sony 17" Trinitron?
I've heard good things about it, but not in comparison.
Thanks...
Ric
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moderator, Newton archive | I wish you were beautiful"
newton.uiowa.edu | -Jimmy Buffet
From: cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu (shem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2.88MB floppy support on NS3.2FIP????
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 14:40:49 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <cameron1-260794144049@transient.uoregon.edu>
References: <1994Jul26.164959.26609@phx.mcd.mot.com>
In article <1994Jul26.164959.26609@phx.mcd.mot.com>, jeffh@phx.mcd.mot.com
(Jeff Huff(summer student)) wrote:
> Is it possible to use a highcapacity floppy controller and a teac 2.88MB
> floppy drive on NS3.2FIP?? Will NS3.2FIP format 2.88MB floppy disks to
> transport files from Black hardware to White hardware??
>
i've tried using a 2.88 drive on my dell- works cool in windows, but ns
wouldn't recognize it.
--
cameron hunziker affiliated with no one cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu
Caddy went to Winehouse and wrote a piece of farce.
Blotty words for Dublin.
jj
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ?DEC "MTE" PC with NS/FIP, video et al
Date: 26 Jul 1994 22:26:34 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3142ir$9kv@rosie.next.com>
References: <30q5d2$qp9@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
In article <30q5d2$qp9@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
:2. DEC S3-928 video card.
:
:The driver also does not recognize that it should support
:800x600x16 bit mode with 1 MB VRAM - it punts at bootup.
This is due to the way the S3-928 controller wants its memory mapped, i.e.
in 1024-pixel (minimally) lines. 1 MB actually isn't enough.
:3. Not sure why, but our system wedges at bootup with 64 MB
:of RAM (4 16MB SIMMS). Never could figure out why, so we
:just removed the last SIMM, and it worked OK with 48 MB.
This is a known conflict with the S3-928 card on this machine. See
NeXTanswers for more info.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: mount_CD-ROM
Message-ID: <CtK7np.35t@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <30ntan$3ce@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 18:07:00 GMT
In article <30ntan$3ce@news.tuwien.ac.at> bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at
(Bernhard Mayr) writes:
> Is there a possibility to mount a CD-ROM drive permanently to a folder,
> say /cdrom?
> I tried something with the /etc/fstab but it was a disaster; the machine
> could not boot properly then.
>
Mount the CDROM as root with the following command
mount -o ro /dev/sd2a /mnt
^ ^
| put your mountpoint here.
put the device number of your cd-rom drive here
Caveats:
- Issue the command before you insert the cdrom. You will be prompted
to insert the disk.
- The directory to mount on has to be existant, so do mkdir /mnt first
(in my example).
This was tried on a Motorola station running 3.2
Cheers,
Axel
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Continuation of Dell XPS 90 saga
Date: 26 Jul 1994 23:49:02 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3147de$8hf@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: Dell, pentium, hanging
First off I would like to thanks all those that have responded to my
questions and concerns about the Dell XPS 90.
Now I have some new info that will hopefully shed some light on my
problem. I was running NXBench and out of no where I got this little
message, something I have never before seen. After I logged back in I
was able to run NXBench just fine, numerous times. Other than that
my machine has stayed up for over a day.
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: WindowServer: Exception caught: PS-108.1 on host
`jehu.async.vt.edu', user `jehu': Memory access exception on address 0x400df4e: invalid
address (SIGSEGV),
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: [ eip = 0x400df4e
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x3969
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc65
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x395e
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc7b
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x395e
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc65
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x395e
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc7b
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: ]
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WM[177]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection,
DPSContext b6998, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu NXBench[2734]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to
connection, DPSContext 18d44, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu NXBench[2734]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Preferences[178]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to
connection, DPSContext 48808, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Preferences[178]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Terminal[186]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to
connection, DPSContext 3e90c, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Terminal[186]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Edit[321]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection,
DPSContext 68da4, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Edit[321]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu ProjectBuilder[322]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to
connection, DPSContext 62ce8, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu ProjectBuilder[322]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu Yap[752]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection,
DPSContext 16c78, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu Yap[752]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu InterfaceBuilder[1073]: DPS client library error: Error while writing
to connection, DPSContext a2718, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu InterfaceBuilder[1073]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:37 jehu HeaderViewer[2462]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to
connection, DPSContext 52c98, data -102
Jul 26 18:09:37 jehu HeaderViewer[2462]: Exiting due to Window Server death
Jul 26 18:09:50 jehu TickleServer.daemon[180]: Workspace died!
Jul 26 18:09:50 jehu loginwindow[170]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss
0.
Jul 26 18:09:51 jehu loginwindow[170]: dps_err_write
Jul 26 18:09:51 jehu last message repeated 20 times
Jul 26 18:09:51 jehu loginwindow[170]: exiting due to excessive DPS errors
Theorization:
Could there be a bad chunk of memory in the simm
that is causing these sporadic lockups and crashes? One person
has already suggested this. If so how can I test this without buying
more RAM (can't afford it)? Should I just get Dell to send me some
replacement simms?
Anyone seen this before while running NXBench 2.0 or any other app?
Thanks again
John Stanhope
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: VL SCSI cards for NS
Date: 26 Jul 1994 23:17:55 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3145j3$9ok@rosie.next.com>
References: <Dave.94Jul2516847@ournext>
In article <Dave.94Jul2516847@ournext> David.Halliday@ASU.Edu writes:
:I am planning on getting the Bus Logic BT445S VL-Bus SCSI Card. For NS
:3.2 it is used with the updated Adaptec 1542B driver (NeXTAnswers 1520
:and 1521). I haven't obtained the card (or put the rest of my system
:together yet) so I cannot guarantee anything, but it supposedly works
:(according to the Hardware Compatibility Guide).
Yep. However, make sure you have the proper BIOS (v4.50) and firmware
(v3.31). More recent versions won't work. Bus Logic has been great about
providing these chips for NEXTSTEP users, but you have to ask for them
specifically. See NA 1547 for more info.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Continuation of Dell XPS 90 saga
Date: 27 Jul 1994 01:45:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <314e80INNp4q@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <3147de$8hf@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: Dell, pentium, hanging
In article <3147de$8hf@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu
(john stanhope) writes:
|>
|> Theorization:
|> Could there be a bad chunk of memory in the simm
|> that is causing these sporadic lockups and crashes? One person
|> has already suggested this. If so how can I test this without buying
|> more RAM (can't afford it)? Should I just get Dell to send me some
|> replacement simms?
Don't bother trying from NextStep - bail out to DOS (use a DOS bootable
floppy if you aren't configured for dual-boot) and use a utility like
CheckIt or whatever else you can borrow to check your memory. As much as I
hate to admit it, that kind of stuff is easier to handle from DOS because
the diagnostic program can get at stuff that any real OS would never let it
touch...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ## NS/i Display options ##
Date: 27 Jul 1994 02:10:20 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <314fmg$4n1@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <3140si$ofc@nexus.uiowa.edu>
ric-mommer@uiowa.edu wrote:
: What is the best adapter card available for NEXTSTEP/Intel? Where can I
: get it? I have heard of the Miro, but can't find one.
call miro @ 415-855-0940 I have the 20SD $299 and 1152x768 on NeXTSTEP
: Also, Is the Viewsonic 17" display better than the Sony 17" Trinitron?
: I've heard good things about it, but not in comparison.
I have the IBM 17P (it has a trinitron tube), it's great (800)IBM2YOU $1199
Note: I don't work for these companies but am satisfied with my setup.
Dan
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ?DEC "MTE" PC with NS/FIP, video et al
Date: 27 Jul 1994 03:13:58 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <314jdm$k86@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
References: <3142ir$9kv@rosie.next.com>
In article <3142ir$9kv@rosie.next.com> estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
writes:
> In article <30q5d2$qp9@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
> (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> :2. DEC S3-928 video card.
> :
> :The driver also does not recognize that it should support
> :800x600x16 bit mode with 1 MB VRAM - it punts at bootup.
>
> This is due to the way the S3-928 controller wants its memory mapped, i.e.
> in 1024-pixel (minimally) lines. 1 MB actually isn't enough.
Let me first say thanks for another post from a NeXT person
trying to help the community. Now on the the slaughter ;-)
Yes, I can see this has now been reflected in the hardware
guide, but I don't believe it was at the time, just as the
1740 "support" was incorrectly listed at that time as well.
(1740 EISA SCSI cards are only supported in 1540 16-bit
mode)
Pardon my bad attitude, but a heck of a lot of good this does
us now.
> :3. Not sure why, but our system wedges at bootup with 64 MB
> :of RAM (4 16MB SIMMS). Never could figure out why, so we
> :just removed the last SIMM, and it worked OK with 48 MB.
>
> This is a known conflict with the S3-928 card on this machine. See
> NeXTanswers for more info.
Again, perhaps NeXT has now updated that file. See
comment above for bad attitude. I just happen to have it in
the version that was available to us when we prepared for
our purchase. As you can see, there is no mention of either
the 800x600x16 bit mode requiring 2 MB VRAM, nor is there
any mention of a problem with RAM conflicts.
(included with only reformatting changes for this ascii post)
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors
Title: S3 Graphics Support Under NEXTSTEP
Entry Number: 1329
Entry Date: 22 September 1993
Document Revision: 993B
Product Vendor:
Digital Equipment Corporation
Digital Drive, Mail Stop MK01-2J25
Merrimack, NH 03054
USA
+1 (800) 438 4316 USA toll-free phone
+1 (800) 388 3228 faxback system
+1 (508) 496 8800 bulletin board system
+1 (800) 524 5694 USA fax
Dell Computer Corporation
11209 Metric Blvd.
Austin, Texas 78758
USA
+1 (800) 247 6821 USA toll-free phone
+1 (800) 950 1329 faxback system
+1 (512) 728 8528 bulletin board system
011 31 20 684 9291 Europe phone
011 866 2 391 2100 SE Asia phone
011 81 3 5420 5353 Japan phone
+1 (800) 727 8320 USA fax
Hewlett Packard
3000 Hanover St.
Palo Alto, CA 94304
USA
+1 (800) 752-0900 USA toll-free phone
+1 (415) 857 1501 international phone
+1 (800) 333 1917 faxback system
+1 (408) 720 3416 bulletin board system
+1 (415) 857 5518 fax
Keywords: S3, Video, Graphics, Driver
Description:
The NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 S3 display driver supports the
integrated S3 graphics chipset on the Dell M series, the
Dell L series, and the DEC MTE d2 series. On the DEC MTE d2
with S3-928 and 4MB of video RAM the driver
supports1280x1024 16 bit color graphics. At the time of
this writing that is the highest resolution color
solution available. Refer to the NEXTSTEP Hardware
Compatibility Guide (NeXTanswers document #1002,
Postscript version, and #1157, ASCII version) for more
information on S3 support on all of these systems.
Add-on cards with integrated S3 graphics are not
currently supported. NeXT plans to support some of these
cards in future releases of the S3 display driver.
System Requirements for S3 Graphics
DEC MTE-d2 system: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600 w/ Localbus S3-805
DEC MTE-d2 system: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600 w/ Localbus S3-928
DEC MTE-d2 system: 2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768 w/ Localbus S3-928
DEC MTE-d2 system: 4 MB VRAM supports 1280x1024 w/ Localbus S3-928
[DEC MTE-d2 (S3 805 and S3 928 versions): driver update required]
Dell 450DE/2 DGX: 2MB VRAM supports 1120 x 832 16 bit color
Dell ME, L, M Series: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600 16 bit color, or
1 MB VRAM supports 1024x768 8 bit grayscale
HP N and NI series: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600 16 bit color
HP Vectra XM series: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600 16 bit color
HP Vectra XM series: 2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768 16 bit color
[HP Vectra XM series: driver update required.]
Setup and Installation:
Known Problems:
I just checked, and there is a new file (pretty sure it
didn't exist when we checked back then) that lists the RAM
problem.
Certified by NeXT
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors
Title: DEC 466d2 MTE
Entry Number: 1459
Last Updated: 24 February 1994
Document Revision: 0294B
Product Vendor:
Digital Equipment Corporation
146 Main St.
Maynard, MA 01754
USA
[deleted many lines]
Known Problems:
A conflict exists which prevents the DEC MTE from
addressing over 48MB RAM when used with the S3 928 card.
In summary, I'm glad for Ethan's (and NeXT's) post, and
glad that the guides have been updated to correct
mistakes, but that doesn't ease the pain of the arrows
we're wearing in our back.
Cheers,
-Nathan
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Message-ID: <bchin.775276956@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <313lbc$pp3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 02:42:36 GMT
takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
>In article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles
>Winthrop Clark) writes:
>> Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
>Try everything else before submitting to Bell Atlantic's highway robbery
>prices. There are several other companies buying and selling used and
>refurbished NeXT equipment: Pixellated Technologies, Paradigm Shift
>Corporation, and Dancing Bear Enterprises, just to name a few.
Another approach to consider before spending $$$ on a fixed frequency
washed out monitor is to get a modern multi-sync'ing monitor with the
appropriate cable. You can hook up your favorite 17" like a Sony
17SE or Nanao T560iW, etc. You just need to get a special cable
(same as Sun Sparc video to SVGA). Plus, later on, you can use
this monitor on your next workstation.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: leigh@thylacine.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Tseng4000 driver on Dell Optiplex
Date: 27 Jul 1994 04:08:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <314mj3$rl7@styx.uwa.edu.au>
References: <cameron1-250794122148@transient.uoregon.edu>
In article <cameron1-250794122148@transient.uoregon.edu>
cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu (shem) writes:
> has anyone had any luck getting the pre-release tseng4000 driver to work on
> the dell optiplex? i've tried it at different resolutions and pixel
> depths, but can't get it to come up. any suggestions?
>
> --
>
> cameron hunziker affiliated with no one cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu
>
> Caddy went to Winehouse and wrote a piece of farce.
> Blotty words for Dublin.
> jj
The ET4000 driver that is shipped with NS/FIP has a bug which prevents its use
on some ET4000 cards (such as mine). I fixed the bug and posted it to the net
sometime back, but haven't had a chance to upload fixed drivers. I'm including
the driver modifications to be performed with NS development system again for
the edification of the reading audience :-). Enjoy. If you don't have the
developer version, email me and I'll NeXTMail you the drivers.
I have produced a patch to the TsengLabs4000 driver to solve a bug setting
the dot-clock. For some reason, the 3.2 driver does not program the Tseng Labs
clock bit which allows access to the extended clocks, such as 65Mhz for
1024x768. I presume the original hardware tested must power up with the bit set
whereas my ET4000 card (Total Peripherals clone) doesn't. This patch may not
solve your ET4000 problems but if you have the developer version and can't get
your card running, it could be worth the effort.
The patch is pretty simple:
1. Copy the directory /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/TsengLabsET4000
2. Patch the file TsengLabsET4000/TsengLabsET4000_reloc.tproj/TsengLabsET4000.m
(relative to the directory you copied to), in the
TsengLabsET4000_1024x768x2x60hz_crtControllerRegisters[] array:
Old -
{0x14,0x00}, {0x15,0x04}, {0x16,0x22}, {0x17,0xC3}, {0x18,0xFF},
{0x33,0x00}, {0x35,0x00},
{-1, 0}
New -
{0x14,0x00}, {0x15,0x04}, {0x16,0x22}, {0x17,0xC3}, {0x18,0xFF},
{0x33,0x00}, {0x34,0x02}, {0x35,0x00},
{-1, 0}
(Should be line 68)
and in TsengLabsET4000_640x480_VGA_crtControllerRegisters[] array:
Old -
{0x33,0x00},
{-1, 0}
New -
{0x33,0x00},
{0x34,0x00}, // Disable the 65Mhz clock
{-1, 0}
(Should be line 237)
3. Edit TsengLabsET4000/English.lproj/Localizable.strings (my apologies to our
foreign language counterparts, your kilometres may vary :-) and change the
names to be able to distinguish them from the original driver, say:
"TsengLabsET4000" = "My Tseng Labs ET4000";
"Long Name" = "My Tseng Labs ET4000-Based SuperVGA Video Adapter";
4. Double click TsengLabsET4000/PB.project to bring up Project Builder, click
Builder and then click Build with the target set to bundle. This should
recompile the driver and produce TsengLabsET4000.config.
5. Log in as root.
6. Rename /NextLibrary/Devices/TsengLabsET4000.config to
OriginalTsengLabsET4000.config.
7. Copy your new TsengLabsET4000.config into /NextLibrary/Devices
8. Run Config.app, select Display and remove your Default VGA driver (blech)
then add My Tseng Labs ET4000 from the list of drivers (the original is
still called Tseng Labs ET4000 - be careful.
9. Save the new configuration, logout and restart the machine. If everything
worked, you should see a MUCH better image. If not, you'll need to restart
with config=Default and BugNeXT about fixing their driver (not me!).
10. Caveat: When closing down the driver to 640x480 mode to tell you its safe
to turn off the computer, the VGA programming seems to be done by code
other than the ET4000 driver. Consequently, the extended dot-clock stays
activated and this final message is smeared across the screen. I don't
know if this is correct, but SoftPC seems to use the 640x480 code in the
driver correctly, so I presume the solution for this problem is an update
to the shutdown code. It's a small price to pay for 1024x768, IMHO :-).
11. Email me if these instructions make no sense, and I'll see if I can help.
--
Leigh Smith NeXTMail: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au
Computer Science Dept Phone: +61-9-380-1945,Fax:+61-9-380-1089
University of Home NeXTMail:leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au
Western Australia Home Phone: +61-9-382-3071
*--=----=----=----=----=----=---====---=----=----=----=----=----=----=--*
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fax Modem for Black Hardware
Date: 26 Jul 1994 23:15:12 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <314u1g$rls@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
References: <CtIJps.GL8@nntpa.cb.att.com> <CtKBKD.Mn@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Does anyone have a 28.8 modem hooked up yet? Will it work?
maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Message-ID: <1994Jul26.114200@bbs.ug.eds.com>
From: moran@bbs.ug.eds.com
Date: 26 Jul 94 11:42:00 GMT
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: EDS - NYRSC Amherst
>> So, having heard rumors that ISDN support was removed from 3.2,
>> and remembering that a digital modem could have been had for NeXT
>> Black some time ago, I ask...
>>
>> Is ISDN under the above criteria doable? Now? Thoughts?
>> Recommendations?
>
> Ugh. Was ISDN support removed? I wouldn't have been paying
> attention to that at the time. You mean it's no longer possible
> to get one of those Hayes ISDN System adaptors that hooked up to
> the DSP port? The ones NeXTconnection always used to advertise?
> [digs out ad to find:] The ones that used to cost $1200 or so?
> (ouch - I thought it was cheaper than that!)
I purchases a Hayes Extender for the analog phone line connection for
about $260 and it had the ISDN connection built in. V3.0 did support
ISDN between two Next Computers, but support was dropped in V3.1 and V3.2
along with support for the Phone Kit.
The Hayes Extender is the product that connects to the DSP port on Black
Nexts.
Paul...
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does SoundBox work with monitorless Cube ?
Date: 25 Jul 1994 17:42:59 GMT
Organization: - CyberDyne Systems -
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <310tj3$9q@anduin.subculture>
Keywords: soundbox cube
Can i connect a SoundBox to a cube and use the PowerButton of the
Keyboard? (and the sound ....)
- Urs
--
Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted
Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake,
Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake."
----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Advise for NeXT color printer problem?
Date: 27 Jul 1994 12:37:12 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <315kdo$6fm@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
We are having problems with printing radar images with the NeXT color
printer. It appears to be related to clogged nozzles for the Cyan color.
When I do a nozzle check the second horizontal line of the cyan color does
not print. Ive already cleaned several times using the A and B cleaning,
I've flushed the nozzles twice and replaced all the color and black
cartridges in the process. Any ideas?
The nozzle test still shows the clog and it causes all our greens to be
painted with yellow stripes where the yellow and cyan are supposed to
make green and the blues have light blue stripes. I dont have any more
cartridges to do alot more flushes.
I have not tried calling Bell Atlantic yet. We bought the printer from a
3rd party vendor as a part of a mass purchase that was advertised on the
net several months ago and I'm not sure about a warranty so I'm concerned
about $$ for repairs. This printer has made < 300 plain paper and
transperancy prints.
I know of at least one other group who have had the same problem. Thanks
for any advice you can offer!
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: Continuation of Dell XPS 90 saga
Message-ID: <1994Jul27.141834.4157@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3147de$8hf@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:18:34 GMT
john stanhope writes
>
<deleted>
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: WindowServer: Exception caught:
PS-108.1 on host
> `jehu.async.vt.edu', user `jehu': Memory access exception on address
0x400df4e: invalid
> address (SIGSEGV),
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: [ eip = 0x400df4e
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x3969
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc65
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x395e
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc7b
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x395e
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc65
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x395e
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: , from 0x2fc7b
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WindowServer[172]: ]
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu WM[177]: DPS client library error: Error while writing
to connection,
> DPSContext b6998, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu NXBench[2734]: DPS client library error: Error while
writing to
> connection, DPSContext 18d44, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu NXBench[2734]: Exiting due to Window Server death
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Preferences[178]: DPS client library error: Error while
writing to
> connection, DPSContext 48808, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Preferences[178]: Exiting due to Window Server death
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Terminal[186]: DPS client library error: Error while
writing to
> connection, DPSContext 3e90c, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Terminal[186]: Exiting due to Window Server death
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Edit[321]: DPS client library error: Error while writing
to connection,
> DPSContext 68da4, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu Edit[321]: Exiting due to Window Server death
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu ProjectBuilder[322]: DPS client library error: Error
while writing to
> connection, DPSContext 62ce8, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:35 jehu ProjectBuilder[322]: Exiting due to Window Server death
> Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu Yap[752]: DPS client library error: Error while writing
to connection,
> DPSContext 16c78, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu Yap[752]: Exiting due to Window Server death
> Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu InterfaceBuilder[1073]: DPS client library error: Error
while writing
> to connection, DPSContext a2718, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:36 jehu InterfaceBuilder[1073]: Exiting due to Window Server
death
> Jul 26 18:09:37 jehu HeaderViewer[2462]: DPS client library error: Error
while writing to
> connection, DPSContext 52c98, data -102
> Jul 26 18:09:37 jehu HeaderViewer[2462]: Exiting due to Window Server death
> Jul 26 18:09:50 jehu TickleServer.daemon[180]: Workspace died!
> Jul 26 18:09:50 jehu loginwindow[170]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd
0 rc 0 sv 0 ss
> 0.
> Jul 26 18:09:51 jehu loginwindow[170]: dps_err_write
> Jul 26 18:09:51 jehu last message repeated 20 times
> Jul 26 18:09:51 jehu loginwindow[170]: exiting due to excessive DPS errors
>
>
> Theorization:
> Could there be a bad chunk of memory in the simm
> that is causing these sporadic lockups and crashes? One person
> has already suggested this. If so how can I test this without buying
> more RAM (can't afford it)? Should I just get Dell to send me some
> replacement simms?
>
> Anyone seen this before while running NXBench 2.0 or any other app?
>
This is exactly the problem I've been having with my P90 system (using the
Intel Premier PCI-II motherboard). Well, actually this is part of the problem
(panics with memory exceptions from the window server). The other problem is
just random lock-ups. No panic, no reboot, the system just locks up
completely. This usually happens while I am away from the machine and it is
either at the login panel or running Backspace.
I think my problem has to do with overheating because my CPU fan isn't working
(a new one is in the mail). I'll follow up when I get the new fan to let you
know if that cured it.
Good luck...
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician)
Subject: What is the biggest drive that can be put on a NextStation ?
Message-ID: <1994Jul27.142319.11393@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:23:19 GMT
Bonjour,
I will like to buy a 3 Gig and maybe also a 9 Gig drive. Before I do so I
will like to know if the NextStation can handle those size of HD.
If not what is the biggest drive I can put on my machine ?
Thanks,
--
Alain Terriault
Music Faculty, Mcgill University
Montreal, Canada
Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
From: fxg@gimli.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fax Modem for Black Hardware
Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:25:39 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
Message-ID: <FXG.94Jul27192540@gimli.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <CtIJps.GL8@nntpa.cb.att.com> <1994Jul26.092232.18005@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In-reply-to: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl's message of Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:22:32 GMT
I'm looking for a fax modem too --- but partly because I thought I got a modem
& cable, connect things, do a little getty work and done! So, what do I need
NXFAX for?
And, in case it's worthwile: where can I get it in Germany?
Thanx
--
Felix
(fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de
NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Date: 27 Jul 1994 17:40:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31665s$8du@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <bchin.775276956@news.andi.org>
In article <bchin.775276956@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin) writes:
> Another approach to consider before spending $$$ on a fixed frequency
> washed out monitor is to get a modern multi-sync'ing monitor with the
> appropriate cable. You can hook up your favorite 17" like a Sony
> 17SE or Nanao T560iW, etc. You just need to get a special cable
> (same as Sun Sparc video to SVGA). Plus, later on, you can use
> this monitor on your next workstation.
Third party multisync monitors only hook up easily to _COLOR_
NextStations. Since the monochrome NeXTs have the sound built into the
NeXT monitor, it is much harder to get a third party monitor to work.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks)
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Message-ID: <CtM0zp.Bt3@ilink.de>
Keywords: Waiting for device to come ready
Sender: usenet@ilink.de
Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin
References: <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 17:38:12 GMT
In article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles
Winthrop Clark) writes:
> After a clean shutdown over the weekend, all my poor old color station
can
> say at boot time is "Waiting for device to come ready . . . "
>
> This is a model with an internal 105M drive, no other SCSI peripherals.
> Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
>
> Charles Clark
So the problem probably is that your drive really isn't ready.
Even the hardest harddrives have only limited lifetime and it seems if
your drive is dead now... (hope you have a recent backup ;-)
105meg isn't very much anyway, go and get you a fresh gig drive.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Monitor Load
Message-ID: <CtMC1s.5o8@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 21:37:04 GMT
I have been running two (2) monitors off of my cube.
It works fine with the following devices on the Power Supply.
2 mono moitors
1 Hard Drive
4 040 Cubes
1 NeXT Optical
I plan to externalize the HD and keep the following
on the cube power supply
2 mono monitors
4 040 cubes
1 NeXT Optical
Does anyone know the load ( in watts ) of these devices, especially the
monitors. I do not want to use more than the 300 watt capacity of the
cube PS. No, it is not in the docs although the docs say that the
boards are limited to draw 25 watts each. No, it is not on the
back of the monitor. I wonder if the 25 watt limit indicates that
the monitor is limited also or if this 25 limit is BS?
Well, it is clear that I do not know.
David
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Building NS onto a laptop
Message-ID: <Jul.27.17.17.24.1994.4273@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 27 Jul 94 21:17:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Im planning on getting a laptop to run NS on. I think I found a nice
one (even though the tech support people are a little snotty :). Its an Acom
DX2/66, 16bit sound, 16meg RAM(32max), 540meg IDE drive, PCMIA III, PowerBook
like palm rest and trackball position, dual-scan color, 1megVRAM VLB video.
All for $3050 (at 1 800 898-2665).
The catch is I'm not sure I can easily install NS onto it... I thought
I would just be able to pop out the 2.5" IDE drive, and plug it into my desktop
computer, and do a build disk from my other hard drive. But the tech support
people say that 2.5" drives wont plug into regular IDE controllers; that 2.5"
drives need special cables. They said that adapters used to exist. Anyone
know where I can get such an adapter?
So, does anyone know a good way of installing NS onto one of these 2.5"
IDE hard drives? I dont want to get a docking station and a SCSI controller
card because I would never again use them with the portable. I already have
a desktop Intel system with a SCSI controller, CDROM, E-net card etc.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Perhaps there is some way of
building a disk over E-net? Are there any PCMIA E-net cards supported by NS?
Thanks very much for any/all help !-)
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: NeXTstep on Gateway P5-90
Message-ID: <CtAz78.A4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA
References: <9407191732.AA22004@pcsbst.pcs.dec.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 18:25:56 GMT
In article <9407191732.AA22004@pcsbst.pcs.dec.com> mrh@pcs.dec.com writes:
> Hello,
>
> Does anybody out there know if NeXTstep runs OK on the Gateway 2000
> Pentium/PCI P5-90 machines. Are any special SCSI or Video drivers
required
> that are not on the standard 3.2 CD?
>
> Also, assuming it works, can anybody comment on performance?
>
> Are there any recommendations people have for a good beefy workstation
> configuration.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Martin.
I AM running NS 3.2 on a Gateway 2000 P5-90 right now !!
And I can tell it's very fast for the price you pay !! I have an Adaptec
1542CF (which is not very fast), a 2GB Micropolis Fast-SCSI-II HD and the
PCI miro Crystal 32S for the video.
With that configuration, I only needed drivers for the miro and they came
with the card.
I also have a Sony CDU-561 SCSI CD-ROM and an external 270MB SyQuest.
Everything works perfectly under DOS/Windows and NeXTSTEP. And the P5-90
is a scream !!
Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser)
Subject: Q: Jumper settings for ST1280N hard disk
Message-ID: <1994Jul27.211510.11688@adobe.com>
Keywords: seagate, ST1280N, disk
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 21:15:10 GMT
Does anyone know the jumper settings for a Seagate ST1280N SCSI disk?
This is the disk that came in the NeXTstation 8/250. Seagate's technical
support doesn't have any of the information concerning this drive since
it is, as they say, an O.E.M. drive. Specifically, I would like to change
the target id.
Thanks for any pointers.
--
James Heiser <jheiser@adobe.com> Adobe Systems Incorporated
NeXTmail accepted 1585 Charleston Road
(415) 961-4400 Mountain View, CA 94043
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Multiple Mother Boards?
Message-ID: <1994Jul27.135319.27497@miavx1>
From: jdblair@tenagra.sas.muohio.edu (Cubehead)
Date: 27 Jul 94 13:53:19 -0500
Is it possible to put two motherboards into the same cube and have them paralell
process? This seems unlikely, but if anyone definately knows an answer I'd
appreciate it.
thanks in advance,
-john.
jdblair@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Monitor Dimming Problem
Message-ID: <1994Jul27.135504.27498@miavx1>
From: jdblair@tenagra.sas.muohio.edu (Cubehead)
Date: 27 Jul 94 13:55:04 -0500
We've got one cube here with some sort of monitor dimming problem. The moniter
itself is OK (when I plug it into a differenent cube, its fine) so the problem
must be originating on the mother board somewhere.
Has anyone every encountered this, and know of a fix of some kind?
thanks,
-john.
jdblair@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu
From: steve@tweedledee.ucsb.edu (Steve Trainoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP560C on black hardware?
Date: 27 Jul 1994 21:39:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <316k6g$j54@hub.ucsb.edu>
Hi all,
We have been investigating getting a HP560C printer to connect to our black
hardware. Has anyone done this? I have a few of questions. What sort of
cabling do we need to connect this up? The printer comes with a PC (parallel)
or Mac (appletalk) interface. The parallel interface is clearly out. Isn't
appletalk just an RS232. If so, can we connect it up by just making the
appropriate cable? The next question is about djf. Has anyone hacked it to
use the 600 dpi black resolution? Would we be better off with a 550C?
--
..STeve
------------------------------------
Insert pithy maxim here...
steve@tweedledee.ucsb.edu (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler)
Subject: Need Postscript Identity card for Epson Action Laser II
Message-ID: <rbzCtMB2s.Cyw@netcom.com>
Keywords: laser printer postscript epson
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 21:16:04 GMT
I am looking for a Postscript "Identity" card for an Epson Action
Laser II. Epson no longer makes this printer or card. It was
replaced by the Epson Action Laser 1500.
The EALII is HPIIP-compatible (according to the manual). It has a
font cartridge slot and an "Identity" card slot. The "Identify"
card slot holds a thin card for emulating Postscript or HP/GL. The
font cartridge slot is for adding fonts. I tried a Pacific Postscript
Emulation cartridge that was HPII/IIP compatiple. It works great on
the HPII at the office but I get an "Invalid Cartridge"-type message
when I plug it into the font cartridge slot.
I am looking to buy a new or used Postscript "Identify" card. Please
post back to this group, email me directly, or call me.
<Rodger>
======================================================
Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com
1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884
Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636
======================================================
--
<Rodger>
======================================================
Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com
1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884
Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636
======================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Fax Modem for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CtMDo6.152@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <314u1g$rls@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 22:12:05 GMT
In article <314u1g$rls@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) writes:
> Does anyone have a 28.8 modem hooked up yet? Will it work?
I do not have one yet, but why should it not work? The 28.8 is not the speed between modem and
computer. This can be set to at least 38.4, so for gzipped data there should be enough data coming
and going to your modem. Try 57.6 or higher if you have the chance.
Worst case: you do not fully use the possible 28.8 at all times. Should be worth the try (and not
much of a risk if you ask me)
Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: Pentium & PCI ... best options for DownUnder
Message-ID: <CtLouJ.6n@softpac.com.au>
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave THOMAS)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 13:15:54 GMT
Could we hear some good news on success with Pentium PCI perhaps?
We are looking to assemble NeXSTEP capable Pentium PCI hardware in Aussie.
Most of the USA brand names don't make out it here. What is the best
combination as to SCSI boards, Drivers, Video cards etc...
Any experience in performance of DX4/100 vs. Pentium PCI?
Your collective experiences would be greatly appreciated, summarised and
posted back on the net so we can all benefit.
Thanks in advance
Rgds dave t
Dave Thomas
Softpac (Australia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: abc@morgan.com (Alexander Cone)
Subject: Any Experience With Compaq XL Series Pentium Boxes
Message-ID: <1994Jul27.231528.10265@is.morgan.com>
Sender: news@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 23:15:28 GMT
I am working at a site where I can get any machine to run NeXTSTEP on
so long as it is a Compaq XL machine. This machine is not currently
listed on the HW Compatability Guide. Has anyone successfully put
NeXTSTEP 3.2 on such a beast? I would like to find out all I can before
I get a machine the Windoze PC types are unhappy to take back. I should
be able to get the QVision board, but the PC Orders folks seem unable
to tell me anything about the built in CD-ROM drive and Ethernet card.
Any Experiences? Post or EMail - the OS Disks are sitting here looking
lonely without a machine to run on...
--
.............................................................................
: Alex B. Cone "Speed Before Direction!" Morgan Stanley & Co :
: abc@morgan.com (mime mail OK) abc@object.com (NeXTMail OK) :
.............................................................................
From: joeba@jpmorgan.com (Joe Barello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 10-base-T hubs - request for information
Date: 27 Jul 1994 15:04:06 GMT
Organization: J.P. Morgan Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <315t16$o80@archive.ny.jpmorgan.com>
Has anyone used small workgroup sized 10-base-T start hubs to do thier networks?
I am evaluating a Black Box unit and am running into problems. (at this point I'm
not sure if it is the star hub or the intel box...)
Let me know if you have had any success. What brands and what configurations...
Thanks
---
---------------------------------------
Joe Barello - JPMorgan
212-235-9240 (office)
1-800-759-8888 pin#1632647 (alpha pager)
joeba@jpmorgan.com
---------------------------------------
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: X for INTEL...
Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:20:07 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <316tjo$8uu@news.bu.edu>
References: <CtC7AB.Fnt@spcuna.spc.edu> <30pjdl$35h@alf.uib.no> <CtF0Aq.37L@spcuna.spc.edu>
Operator (root@net23.com) wrote:
: Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote:
: : I thought NeXT for Intel had "dual boot" where one can have
: : more than one OS on a boot disk, no?
: : If it does, what do you need an X for NeXT for?
: : Just run Linux. Its free. Its fast. Its stable. Its nice.
: : (not as nice as NeXT ;-)
: Gee, probably because I run a well-known commercial access site which has
: to be up 24/7
Gee, then you should have no problem affording the very reasonable cost of one
of the commercial X packages.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams)
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Message-ID: <dlwCtMpE6.394@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <313lbc$pp3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <bchin.775276956@news.andi.org>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 02:25:18 GMT
Bill Chin (bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org) wrote:
: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
: >In article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles
: >Winthrop Clark) writes:
: >> Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
: >Try everything else before submitting to Bell Atlantic's highway robbery
: >prices. There are several other companies buying and selling used and
: >refurbished NeXT equipment: Pixellated Technologies, Paradigm Shift
: >Corporation, and Dancing Bear Enterprises, just to name a few.
: Another approach to consider before spending $$$ on a fixed frequency
: washed out monitor is to get a modern multi-sync'ing monitor with the
: appropriate cable. You can hook up your favorite 17" like a Sony
: 17SE or Nanao T560iW, etc. You just need to get a special cable
: (same as Sun Sparc video to SVGA). Plus, later on, you can use
: this monitor on your next workstation.
1) Does this work on a monochrome nextstation?
2) IF you don't use a "NeXT" monitor what do you plug the keyboard into?
: --
: Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Not finding my SCSI card.
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.021834.17911@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 02:18:34 GMT
Well, I'm one of those pathetic cases who ended up with a
P/90 with the OPTi chipset that makes you feel like you're
watching a 386. The vendor that sold it to me (Zenon)
finally shipped out (3 weeks later) an Intel Premiere
motherboard.
Great.
Now, I plug everything in, and after the BIOS messages come
up, I get a message teling me that there's a drive not ready
error, and I should insert a boot diskette.
Usually at this time I get a message saying (well, this is
on our other two Intel Premiere machines) NCR SCSI BIOS 3.0
Revision 2.1 or something like that.
I attacked the BIOS in a blind fury and ended up with a
totally voided piece of hardware (I have to download a BIOS
recovery utility to fix this).
Is there anyone out there that could possibly know what the
problem is? I don't know a whole lot about PC hardware, but
I was suspecting that there should have been a revision to
the system BIOS to access the PCI SCSI card. I was attempting
to copy over the BIOS from one of our working machines to the
useless P90 when it blew itself to hell. Well, I guess I
blew it to hell, but PCs do seem like suicidal computers,
don't they?
Anyway: HELP!!!!!! Any info is appreciated, because I'm just
shooting in the dark here.
- darcy
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Re: Multiple Mother Boards?
Message-ID: <CtMyrD.3sp@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
References: <1994Jul27.135319.27497@miavx1>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 05:47:36 GMT
_?_ Is it possible to put two motherboards into the same cube and
_?_ have them paralell process? This seems unlikely, but if anyone
_?_ definately knows an answer
_?_ I'd appreciate it.
I am writing.
_!_ Yes, you can use Zilla and/or PVM. Under CoXist, you can use Hence,
_!_ Popa and/or XPVM with PVM. There are other libraries such as P4 and LAM.
_!_ Mostly you must write your own code with these. In general, with two
_!_ or more boards you can run an application remotely and have the local
_!_ board do the windowing. You can do the same with X. In fact, all you
_!_ need to do is establish each board as a server with accounts and
_!_remotley login. The NeXTStep System Manager's Guide tells you how
_!_ to execute an app remotely also - from a shell.
!
_!_ There are other clever things you can do. I use 4 040's and distribute
_!_ my devices. Each board boots off of an external drive to reduce the
_!_ load on the power supply and to allow for local apps. I am working on
_!_ a way to share memory across the NeXTBus and having a shared memory
_!_ machine. Moslty this is for my own code.
!
In general, I know of no way to parallel process your
apps across several boards unless you write your own
specialized code. I think it can be done by "objectizing"
PVM and then writing your own apps. Whether or not this is
worthwhile is dependent on the performance which is certainly
going to be hampered by the 10MBS ethernet when using more
than 20 or so boards.
Bests,
David
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: HP 712/60 BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11)
Message-ID: <1994Jul27.211006.3047@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 21:10:06 GMT
Hi,
Here are the latest results:
NEXSTEP Release 3.2 for HP PA-RISC Computer *GAMMA* version
cc -v
Reading specs from /lib/hppa/specs
NeXT Computer, Inc. version cc-430.8, gcc version 2.5.8
hostinfo
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.2: Tue Jul 12 18:26:52 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-150.0.0.55.obj~2/RELEASE_HPPA
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: HPPA (7100LC)
Processor active: 0
Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 43 tasks, 78 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.00, Mach factor: 0.99
==============================================================
BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11)
System -- gecko60
Start Benchmark Run: Wed Jul 27 19:15:40 MET DST 1994
2 interactive users.
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 81830.3 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Dhrystone 2 using register variables 81662.3 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 276167.2 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = register) 6217.4 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = short) 6212.8 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = int) 6019.2 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = long) 6161.7 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = float) 29161.2 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 20139.3 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
System Call Overhead Test 11754.8 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Pipe Throughput Test 9292.2 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 3733.9 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Process Creation Test 52.4 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
Execl Throughput Test 30.4 lps (9 secs, 6
samples)
File Read (10 seconds) 24140.0 KBps (10 secs, 6
samples)
File Write (10 seconds) 356.0 KBps (10 secs, 6
samples)
File Copy (10 seconds) 204.0 KBps (10 secs, 6
samples)
File Read (30 seconds) 24871.0 KBps (30 secs, 6
samples)
File Write (30 seconds) 200.0 KBps (30 secs, 6
samples)
File Copy (30 seconds) 142.0 KBps (30 secs, 6
samples)
C Compiler Test 33.6 lpm (60 secs, 3
samples)
Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 40.6 lpm (60 secs, 3
samples)
Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 28.7 lpm (60 secs, 3
samples)
Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 15.0 lpm (60 secs, 3
samples)
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 7.0 lpm (60 secs, 3
samples)
Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 1130.7 lpm (60 secs, 6
samples)
Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 1384.0 lps (10 secs, 6
samples)
/private/Net/serveur/Users_1Go/fabien/src/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base
/tmp/17808.dat
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 20139.3 7.4
Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 6161.7 2.2
Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 6217.4 2.2
C Compiler Test 24.1 33.6 1.4
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 81830.3 3.4
Execl Throughput Test 23.7 30.4 1.3
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 142.0 0.3
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 24871.0 1.4
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 200.0 0.3
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 3733.9 3.2
Process Creation Test 34.0 52.4 1.5
Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 1384.0 4.3
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 7.0 1.8
=========
SUM of 13 items 30.7
AVERAGE 2.4
Cheers
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Message-ID: <bchin.775322802@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu> <bchin.775196757@news.andi.org> <CHRIS.94Jul26210924arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 15:26:42 GMT
chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) writes:
>In article <bchin.775196757@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>> Using say, an Adtran TA, you'll want to get the TTYDSP so that
>> you can talk to it at 115kbps on black hardware.
>does this work ? have you tried it ? can one use ppp or slip with
>ttydsp ?
We are running the TTYDSP with Morningstar's PPP product but over
analog lines. The Adtran *should* work. DialupIP doesn't.
PNI should work. I just don't have the time these days to try
it out. Maybe someone else can give positive confirmation.
--
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Message-ID: <bchin.775373776@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <313lbc$pp3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <bchin.775276956@news.andi.org> <dlwCtMpE6.394@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 05:36:16 GMT
dlw@netcom.com (David L. Williams) writes:
>Bill Chin (bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org) wrote:
>: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
>: >In article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles
>: >Winthrop Clark) writes:
>: >> Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
>: Another approach to consider before spending $$$ on a fixed frequency
>: washed out monitor is to get a modern multi-sync'ing monitor with the
>: appropriate cable. You can hook up your favorite 17" like a Sony
>: 17SE or Nanao T560iW, etc. You just need to get a special cable
>: (same as Sun Sparc video to SVGA). Plus, later on, you can use
>: this monitor on your next workstation.
>1) Does this work on a monochrome nextstation?
>2) IF you don't use a "NeXT" monitor what do you plug the keyboard into?
I should have been clearer; the original poster has a color monitor
and the follow up was about general NeXT equipment from Bell Atlantic.
I was referring to replacements for NeXT's 17" Fimi color monitor.
--
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From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: [i] Installation Troubles : "Memory Fault 51..."
Message-ID: <schwettCtn7x5.4u1@netcom.com>
Summary: Reinstallation on a nwe HD (Quantum Empire 1080) no go.
Keywords: installation intel quantum adaptec
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 09:05:28 GMT
Hi.
I've come up upon a rather nasty problem while trying to reinstall NeXTStep.
I swapped hard drives with a friend, and attempted to install NS/i on the
new drive, a Quantum "Empire 1080," which is a 1029 MB SCSI-II HD (althouth
the drive is low level formatted to 1023 by the 1542CF)
Anyway, just after the boot, boot0, boot1 installton I get roughly the
following:
writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1
/etc/rc.cdrom.i386 : 51 Memory Fault
/etc/rc.cdrom.i386 : 52 Memory Fault
/private/tmp/mnta/private/vm/swapfile: no such file or directory
/usr/etc/mach_swapon : mach_swapon failed : No such file or directory
/etc/rc.cdrom.i386 : /private/tmp/mnta/private/tmp/(?)file : cannot create
(The (?) isn't there; it says something that I cannot recall...)
Anyway, I've checked the usual 1542CF problems; the dynamic scanning and the
>1GB drive support, to no avail.
If anybody knows the cause of these troubles, I'd really appreciate it. I
have not changed anything else in the setup besides the HD.
Thanks,
Mark Schwettmann
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From: karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf)
Subject: Problems with miro 20SD-driver Rev.3 V.1.00
Message-ID: <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
Sender: g402@jumbo.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 10:34:44 GMT
Organization: Hochschulrechenzentrum (HRZ) der Universitaet Giessen
I just received the new NS-driver for the miro 20SD PCI.
If I start my machine with config=Default the screen (and the mousepointer) show for a second or two, then it turns black. The system is running (I can login blindly and force an audio signal).
I even logged in -s (single user mode) and changed /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table to include the new miroCRYSTAL20SD_Rev3 driver I copied from disc into /usr/Devices/, but the same thing happens. Does anybody of the other miro 20SD PCI users experience the same problem? I have got an ASUS PCI 486/66 board with 1993 bios. Do I need an update?
Karsten D. Wolf
Arbeits-, Berufs- und Wirtschaftspädagogik
Justus-Liebig-Universität Gießen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hard Disks, 2 gig range
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.103715.33798@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Date: 28 Jul 94 10:37:14 EDT
Keywords: Hard disks
Many thanks to those who responded to my post about buying a machine.
I think I'll post a summary of my "delightful" experiences in the Intel
world when the machines are actually sitting in my office.
A second question: disk drives. I'm looking for fast/wide SCSI
hard disks in the 1.7-2.5 gig range. I'm considering the Seagate
ST12550W, which is a 2.5 gig Fast/Wide drive. Does anyone have
one of these? Using 1024 byte blocks can NS-FIP see all 2.5 gigs?
How is this disk in terms of thermal recal? Is it one of the newer
ones which don't recalibrate when they're being accessed?
Thanks, once again.
Sean
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From: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WTB: 2.88 Mb Floppy Drive
Date: 28 Jul 1994 15:00:47 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <318h6v$7of@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
*** Do not reply to my address; posted for a friend ***
Looking for a 2.88 Mb floppy drive for a NeXTcube. Please respond to
the following address:
<frank> fvandong@ca.oracle.com
Any information is appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gildas@crih.fdn.org (Gildas NOEL)
Subject: Fujitsu M2512A on NeXTStations (Repost)
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.150333.9986@crih.fdn.org>
Sender: news@crih.fdn.org
Organization: Crih Centre - Tours, France.
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:03:33 GMT
Hello,
Sorry for this repost, but I got no feedback from my first post
So...
Does anyone know the jumper settings for the new FUJITSU M2512A
(230Mb 3.5" MOD) ? Has anybody configured the disktab correctly
for this drive ?
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
________________________________________________
Gildas NOEL
Centre Regional d'Informatique Hospitaliere
CHRU de Tours, France
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From: olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Message-ID: <7754080491041@dalek.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Math and Computer Science, Argonne National Laboratory
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu> <bchin.775196757@news.andi.org> <CHRIS.94Jul26210924arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:07:29 GMT
In article <CHRIS.94Jul26210924arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>,
Christian Limpach <chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> wrote:
>In article <bchin.775196757@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>
>> Using say, an Adtran TA, you'll want to get the TTYDSP so that
>> you can talk to it at 115kbps on black hardware.
>
>does this work ? have you tried it ? can one use ppp or slip with
>ttydsp ?
I've run an Adtran at 38.4 with PNI CSLIP and a ttydsp. Works great.
I've also tested it at 115.2 with the ttydsp (just dialing into another
host, not running SLIP); this also works fine. I would see no reason why
SLIP wouldn't work (I didn't do it because our slipserver (an annex)
tops out at 38.4).
--bob
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with miro 20SD-driver Rev.3 V.1.00
Date: 28 Jul 1994 16:56:29 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <318nvt$58s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
In article <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) writes:
> I just received the new NS-driver for the miro 20SD PCI.
>
> If I start my machine with config=Default the screen (and the mousepointer)
show for a second or two, then it turns black. The system is running (I can
login blindly and force an audio signal).
No, I don't have a solution, unfortunately. I am waiting for my miro 20SD,
which I ordered recently, and I am thus interested in solutions, too. If
anybody wants to mail ...
Lars
---
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lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de
From: tms@cfc.com (Todd M. Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the biggest drive that can be put on a NextStation ?
Date: 28 Jul 1994 17:01:40 GMT
Organization: Chrysler Financial, MIS, Center Line, MI
Message-ID: <TMS.94Jul28130140@litespeed.cfc.com>
References: <1994Jul27.142319.11393@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In-reply-to: emstech@music.mcgill.ca's message of Wed, 27 Jul 1994 14:23:19 GMT
In article <1994Jul27.142319.11393@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician) writes:
>Bonjour,
>I will like to buy a 3 Gig and maybe also a 9 Gig drive. Before I do so I
>will like to know if the NextStation can handle those size of HD.
>If not what is the biggest drive I can put on my machine ?
I believe the only constraint is the phyical size of the drive. If
you have 9 gigs crammed into a 3.5" drive, it should work...
Todd
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Sense command to switch between DDS and DDS-DC ?
Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:09:28 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <316pf8$qv@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
I just bought a WangDAT 3200. I want to use DDS-DC (data compression)
format for my own backups and write tape which are subjected to be exchanged
with other DDS drives without data compression. How can I write a small
C prog that switches compression on and off using a SCSI sense command?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Markus.
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// mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: PC Hell is OVER!
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.181612.8823@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 18:16:12 GMT
My 6 week saga of buying 3 pentium machines, and getting them
running is over.
The latest (and last) problem with my P/90 -- SCSI not being
found -- was indeed a BIOS problem.
If you have an Intel Premier/PCI II motherboard, your BIOS
might not recognize your PCI SCSI controller (if you have
one). If you boot up, and you don't see any message from
your PCI SCSI controller, and DOS can't find a C drive, then
this will probably fix it for you:
1) ftp to hasc.ca. I've put a file in /pub/premiereII/10008ax1.exe.
Download this file (it's a self-extracting archive).
2) format a DOS disk in a: (format /s a:) to be bootable.
3) run the self-extracting archive like this 10008ax1.exe a:
4) turn it off, set the bios recovery jumper on the motherboard
5) put the boot disk in a:, and turn your machine on
6) If everything is OK, you'll hear this sequence:
- beep
- pause
- high pitched beep
- floppy drive is active for a while
- two high pitched beeps, floppy stops
Note that video is not active during this process.
7) Unset the recovery jumper
8) You're done. Reboot.
Note that this is the sledgehammer approach. Intel provides
a BIOS upgrade utility, but when I used it, it corrupted
my BIOS, leaving me with an inoperable computer. Thank god
I have a laptop.
SO, my P-90/#9GXE64-4M combo is NXBenching at 130,000 Dhrystones
and 1.7 NXFactor. I am feeling giddy.
***REMEMBER*** stay away from the OPTi chipset! It SUCKS (and
is the reason I had to go through this crud).
- db
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for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: NXBenchmark Posting.
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.202735.16946@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:27:35 GMT
-----------------------------------------------
Revision 3, Jul 28, 1994
-----------------------------------------------
This is the weekly NXBenchmark posting. NXBench.app is an application
which allows you to get a decent measurement of the video and integer
performance of a computer running NEXTSTEP. NXFactor uses the NeXT
monochrome 68040 cube as the reference benchmark (1.0).
This document is being maintained by Darcy Brockbank <darcy@hasc.ca>
and will be updated and posted regularly. If you have a machine and/or
configuration not found on this document, please feel free to send me
the results of your NXBench run. Sending in your reports will help us
build a more complete list, and make it more helpful to the community.
DISCLAIMER
----------
Some benchmarks have been submitted by vendors. Also, NXFactor is only
a rough guidline, and is by no means a comprehensive test of graphics
under NEXTSTEP. If any better test exists, I am willing to start this
table from scratch.
CHANGES
-------
(1) Several new Pentium systems have been added to the list.
IMPORTANT NOTE
--------------
Graphics performance is dependent on color depth. Color depth is
listed as part of the graphics resolution. 2 and 8 bit are both
greyscale, while 16 and 32 bit are color. In general, the more bits
your color depth has, the more work your machine has to do on some of
the benchmark tests. While increasing your color depth results in
slower displays, it also gives you more colors to work with, and so a
more pleasing display. Most PC graphics cards can be configured to use
8, 16 and 32 bit color depths at a variety of screen dimensions and
refresh rates. However, you should note that NEXTSTEP deals with col-
ors internally at 32bit. This means that a graphics adapter can see
significant performance *improvement* when running in 32 bit color,
since the processor doesn't have to dither colors.
NXBench was written by George Fankhauser <george@uptime.ch> and is
available on the archives. This document is formatted with groff and
gtbl, which were written by James Clark <jjc@jclark.com> and is freely
available. Thanks to Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> and Mary
McNabb for writing a way-cool tbl book ``Typesetting Tables on the
UNIX System'' which told me everything I need to know about tbl. I
highly recommend it.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
NXBench 2.0 RESULTS -- Revision 3, Jul 28, 1994
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
NeXT (Reference) Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
NS Turbo 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/2 35,335 1.49
Cube 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 24,732 1.00
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1120x832/32 35,169 0.83
NS Turbo Clr 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/16 35,377 0.78
NS Color 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/16 25,884 0.57
Cube '030 030/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 5,941 0.37
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1120x832/2 35,169 0.37
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Intel Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
NoName (Premiere) P-90 #9GXE-64 p 1152x864/8 130,000 1.87
Eclipse 850e P-90 Stealth64 p 1024x768/32 83,909 1.72
NoName (Premiere) P-90 #9GXE-64 p 1280x1024/16 130,000 1.70
DEC XL560 P-60 Miro32s4 p 1408x1024/8 86,705 1.66
NoName (Premiere) P-90 #9GXE-64 p 1152x864/32 130,000 1.64
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1152x864/32 96,463 1.63
Micron P.S. P-90 Stealth64 p 1152x900/32 132,156 1.48
JCIS NXP90 P-90 Wtk9100 p ??? 131,578 1.46
eCesys 590 P-90 Wtk9100 p 1152x900/16 132,000 1.46
Advanced 2000 P-66 Miro 16s 1024x768/16 97,323 1.42
HP Vectra XM 486/66 S3 928 1024x768/8 56,390 1.41
JCIS NXP66 P-66 #9GXE-64/4 p 1152x900/32 95,846 1.31
Micron P.S. P-90 Stealth64 p 1152x900/16 132,156 1.25
DEC XL560 P-60 Miro32s4 p 1024x768/32 86,705 1.23
DEC 466 MTE 486/66 ATI 1280x1024/8 62,893 1.22
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1376x1024/16 96,463 1.22
JCIS NXP66 P-66 #9GXE-64/4 p 1280x1024/16 95,846 1.13
JCIS NXP66 P-66 Wtk9100 p ??? 95,846 1.13
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 1280x1024/8 63,965 1.12
JCIS NX499 486/100 Wingine v ??? 76,276 1.12
DEC XL560 P-60 mr32s4 p 1280x1024/16 86,705 1.04
Dell Dimnsn XPS P-60 #9 gxe v ??? 81,743 1.04
Gateway DX2/66 486/66 Viper v 1280x1024/8 56,818 1.02
Noname Pent. P-60 Miro p 1024x768/8 85,470 1.02
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ET4kW32 ??? 84,507 1.02
Zenon P90 (OPTi) P-90 #9GXE-64/4 p 1152x900/16 132,000 1.01
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ATI v ??? 86,705 0.99
Pkrd Bell P-60 ATI ? 1024x768/16 82,191 0.98
DELL 450DE/2 486/50 JAWS 1120x832/16 44,510 0.90
ALR Evolution V P-60 ATI v 1024x768/16 86,206 0.83
DELL 466/ME 486/66 S3 VGA 1024x768/8 54,844 0.83
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 58,365 0.83
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57,581 0.83
JCIS NX466 486/66 Wingine v ??? 61,855 0.83
eCesys 486/66 Wingine 1024x768/16 58,374 0.83
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59,171 0.82
Compaq Dskpr 5-60 P-60 ATI e 1024x768/16 82,872 0.81
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 56,710 0.79
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57,581 0.78
Noname 486/66 ATI v 1120x832/16 62,111 0.76
UNISYS U6kDT-2 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 54,347 0.75
AST Premmia 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 35,587 0.70
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 64,516 0.70
Unisys DT2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768 50,761 0.70
AcerPower 466de 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61,728 0.69
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61,475 0.69
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 63,559 0.68
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59,171 0.68
Epson Prog. 486/50 Wingine 1024x768/16 45,248 0.67
Gateway 2000 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 55,350 0.66
Vobis Pent. P-60 ET4k i 1024x768/2 85,714 0.66
Vobis Pent. P-60 Miro8S p 800x600/16 85,714 0.63
Royal Super 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 62,630 0.60
DELL 466/ME 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 53,097 0.52
Clone 486 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 49,916 0.50
Clone 486/33 ATI v 1024x768/16 30,643 0.47
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 55,555 0.43
DTK (noname) 486/50 ATI e 1024x768/16 37,037 0.24
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millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
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for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hendryj@il.us.swissbank.com (Jonathan Hendry)
Subject: Re: What is the biggest drive that can be put on a NextStation ?
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.203251.18708@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <1994Jul27.142319.11393@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:32:51 GMT
Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician writes
> Bonjour,
>
> If not what is the biggest drive I can put on my machine ?
Well, given the magnesium casing, weight shouldn't be a problem. But if you're
looking at a REALLY big drive, I'd suggest putting the NextStation on
the drive, rather than the other way around. And if you don't want any
overhang, the drive should be about 18"x18" or thereabouts (I don't have the
specific size in front of me).
Just kidding, folks. :)
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of Vanguard
Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or undead is
entirely coincidental.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Strange Benchmarks
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.205148.18575@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 20:51:48 GMT
Byte Benchmark for my P/90 w/ Intel Premiere motherboard, NCR
PCI SCSI controller, fast SCSI II hard disk:
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 16017.3 5.9
Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 13621.6 4.8
Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 13606.4 4.8
C Compiler Test 24.1 61.2 2.5
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 133390.2 5.5
Execl Throughput Test 23.7 101.7 4.3
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 565.0 1.1
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 54357.0 3.0
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 666.0 1.1
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 4141.5 3.6
Process Creation Test 34.0 105.8 3.1
Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 1862.9 5.8
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 10.3 2.7
=========
SUM of 13 items 48.2
AVERAGE 3.7
Same controller, different disk, on a P/66:
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 11459.3 4.2
Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 9345.6 3.3
Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 9347.8 3.3
C Compiler Test 24.1 46.7 1.9
Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 87658.0 3.6
Execl Throughput Test 23.7 74.9 3.2
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 1401.0 2.7
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 39433.0 2.2
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1898.0 3.2
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 3186.8 2.8
Process Creation Test 34.0 73.1 2.1
Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 1457.9 4.5
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 9.3 2.4
=========
SUM of 13 items 39.4
AVERAGE 3.0
Can anyone come up with an explanation as to why writes are so slow
on the P/90? I've switched motherboards, and SCSI controllers once
already, same results. I'd hate to think it was the disk! I bought
this disk because it was supposed to be adequately fast (it's
a Micropolis 4110). I'm also confused as to why reads remain pretty
fast...
- darcy
--
I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker)
Subject: printer drivers for HP560C
Message-ID: <Cto8Ho.G0H@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: printer postscript inkjet NS
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 22:15:23 GMT
Greetings All,
Is anybody out their using one of the third party NS drivers
(Dots/JetDriver) to print to a HP560C from Intel hardware? If so,
I would be interested to hear from you. I'd also like to now from
where I can purchase these (or other) drivers.
Thanks in advance.
Nick Walker.
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Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-3677
Pager: (415) 424-7335
From: tdave@raivac.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel boot problems
Date: 28 Jul 1994 23:26:19 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <319eqr$gnq@relay.tor.hookup.net>
I have a 2GB Fuji drive that I am trying to make the boot drive on a 486
DX2. The drive is recognized and the boot process starts but then
terminates with the error "Thread wait for interupt returns -735". Has
anyone come across this problem. I seem to vaguely remember a similar
posting but I can't find any reference to it now.
Regards,
Dave Thompson
Driveless in Stouffville
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com>
From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com>
Message-ID: <199407282159.AA168782785@relay2.geis.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 21:51:00 UTC
Cc: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Seeking Advice on Hard Disk
In article <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
groovey@convection.engin.umich.edu (Dawn Kinsey) writes:
> We are in need of more hard disk memory. We have a NeXT station.
> We would like to know if there are any advantages to internal vs
> external disks;
DON'T buy a Fujisu M2623FA 405MB for Black hardware.
It DOES NOT WORK. Believe me I tried.
I have been trying to make it work all week and it's
not compatible with Black hardware. It works great on
my NEXTSTEP Intel box but not on Black.
Bell Atlantic also said it was incompatible.
So don't buy a Fujisu...
Eric "E.T." Tremblay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hates Modem Help
Message-ID: <319pkg$dbe@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu>
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music)
Date: 28 Jul 1994 22:30:40 -0400
Organization: Brooklyn College
-----------------------------------------------------------
hi!
i just borrowed a Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400
from a friend of mine and i can't get it to
work correctly. I am using C-Kermit.
I am trying to use it exactly the same way that
i was using my old 1940's .5 baud Racal-Vadic :-)
which was slow as hell but worked fine.
here's what my .kermrc looks like:
---------------------------------
set line /dev/cufa
set modem hayes
set speed 9600
--------------------------------
BTW, should the baud rate be set to 14400?
To be completely honest, i wasn't sure if
14400 was the just a model number or if it
is actually the baud rate. I thought 9600
was the highest modem baud rate, but judging
by what i have already written, you have by now,
probably (correctly) deduced that i don't have the
slightest clue about what i am doing. Anyway i am
using a vintage NeXTStation (one of the ol' pizza boxes)
and the remote site that i connect with has C-Kermit running
on a Sun Sparcstation. All i did was change the modem, and change
a few things in the .kermrc file and now it doesn't work so well.
Is there something else that i am supposed to do with a Hayes Modem,
that i am not doing? The manuals for this thing (the modem)
are completely useless (they also assume that EVERYONE is
using the DOS operating system).
I see that there is all kinds of stuff in the NeXTStep Network and
System Administration book, but this is stuff that only sysadms
could ever understand - like these modem configurations and
register settings on pg. 441, where are they, where are they supposed to go?
I didn't have to do any of this crap with the other modem.
All i did was change the permissions on /dev/cufa, set the
line, speed and port in the startup file, and i was kermiting away.
I hope that there others out there with a NeXT, who
are also using this modem and can give some advise. Help. Please.
Thanks in advance,
kevin parks
the center for computer music
conservatory of music
brooklyn college of the city university of new york
E-mail:
kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: WANTED: technical answers about 712 (Gecko) machines
Message-ID: <CtnDz1.22F@clive>
Sender: paul@clive (Paul Marcos)
Organization: dCode
References: <CtJDtv.335@clive>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 11:16:12 GMT
In article <CtIvz5.15y@txnews.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron
Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
> In article <311kta$p6b@gatekeep.genmagic.com> pete_helme@genmagic.com
(Pete
> Helme) writes:
> >>> BTW, if you're a developer, be SURE to call HP's developer program
and
> >>> get the massive discount. I don't think I can quote the rate, but
it
> >>> basically makes buying any other machine insane.
> >>
> >>What does the term "developer" mean to HP?
> >>
> >>
>
> I think it means you give 'em $695.
>
What's the problem with quoting the rate, they sent me a brochure with all
the info in it when I asked for it. From the cover letter:
For the low, annual membership fee of $600, you are entitled to many
benefits including:
- 52% discount on selected equipment
- professional technical porting support
- rent, lease, or own financing options
- marketing and distribution programs
- and much more
In all of the documentation that I received there was no mention of
NeXTSTEP or the PA-RISC version. Not that I was really expecting it or
anything! I don't recall the phone number that I called originally, but
the brochure has a Developer Program Information Hotline 1-800-249-3294.
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From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel Saturn Chipset 486-66
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 02:41:55 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <JY2wTbL.ecesys@delphi.com>
Does anyone have any experience iwth the INTEL Saturn-PCI motherboard
withthe NCR53c810 controller onboard? Has anyone successfully
used the Talus driver with this configuration?
Thanks.
Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Re: What is the biggest drive that can be put on a NextStation ?
Message-ID: <1994Jul29.075137.359@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
References: <TMS.94Jul28130140@litespeed.cfc.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 07:51:37 GMT
Todd M. Swan writes
> In article <1994Jul27.142319.11393@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician) writes:
>
> >Bonjour,
> >I will like to buy a 3 Gig and maybe also a 9 Gig drive. Before I do so I
> >will like to know if the NextStation can handle those size of HD.
>
> >If not what is the biggest drive I can put on my machine ?
>
> I believe the only constraint is the phyical size of the drive. If
> you have 9 gigs crammed into a 3.5" drive, it should work...
A small word of warning. It's not si much the size that matters here but the
heat. Some drives need more cooling than others and the NStation offers not too
much of it.
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: basso@patpserv.epfl.ch (Andrea Basso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DSP and NeXT
Date: 29 Jul 1994 08:58:45 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Sender: basso@patpserv (Andrea Basso)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31agc5$t5t@info.epfl.ch>
Hello,
I tryed to use sdsp (second generation DSP) developed
by J. Miller of San Francisco University.
Here is a little explanation:
the SDSP system, is now available by anonymous ftp from
CCRMA (ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu, get /pub/NeXT/sdsp.tar.Z).
The SDSP system, developed over the course of several years by Joel Miller,
is basically a low-level replacement for the
NeXT's Array Processing system (not the functions themselves, but the
method of organization). It is composed of a package of routines for
handling host/DSP communication and a framework for calling DSP56001
assembly routines by issuing host commands. The main goal in creating
this system was to obtain an expandable and coherent environment for DSP
development with a quick learning curve which also provided speed and
efficiency.
Well i tried on two NexT stations:
1) rom 2.66 16MB RAM NS 3.0
2) rom 2.58 8MB RAM NS 3.0
On the first one it works perfectly but not in the second one.
The problem seems related with the DMA or the DSP ( i think the DSP more than th
e
DMA)
On the other side the Musickit 4.0 works fine on both.
Here is the question:
There exist different versions of the DMA and DSP chips? Are there not fully
compatible?
thanks
-Andrea
From: jim@roshi.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp (Jim Kieley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTDimension hookup
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 29 Jul 1994 08:23:48 GMT
Organization: Miyazaki International College
Message-ID: <jim-290794172313@202.17.184.32>
I have a NeXTDimension that I sort of pieced together after the fact. The
system actually consists of an original 030 cube upgraded to a 25mhz 040,
the original NeXT keyboard and mouse, a B/W monitor, a NeXT Dimension
board, and a 21" color monitor. Since I added the NeXTDimension board I
have always run two monitors. I have started up the system with the
keyboard copnnected to the B/W monitor. I recently relocated to Japan and
I am cramped for space, so I only want to run the color monitor. I have
tried various configurations one where I plug the keyboard and the B/W
monitor into the proper N4004 sound box eliminating the B/W monitor itself.
When I press the Power key with this set up I hear the familiar click and
then a couple seconds later I hear the click again. In other words the
system receives the power on message and then sputters and doesn't start
up. It sounds like the circuit isn't complete in some way. I have also
tried plugging the SoundBox into the Dimension with similar results (I
think I have all of the right cables). Can anyone shed some light on my
problem. Is there a jumper I should be setting somewhere or a startup
option? I don't have any documentation suggesting what I should do, so any
pointers would be appreciated.
Jim Kieley
Miyazaki International College
Miyazaki, Japan
jim@roshi.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves Arrouye)
Subject: Installing NEXTSTEP on the second IDE drive: how to do that?
Message-ID: <1994Jul29.092029.3481@imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr
Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:20:29 GMT
Hello,
The subject says it: I would like to install NEXTSTEP on the 2nd IDE drive of
my system (the first drive already has DOS and Linux).
I tried to install yesterday but after the installation procedure
reboots the machine after the formatting of the disk, I am not able to boot
on the second drive instead. Is there a solution to that? Of course I would
like to be able to choose my system at boot time, too.
Thanks in advance,
Yves.
--
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program does not need the extra flexibility (a lie), Yves.Arrouye@imag.fr
while advocates for the Objective-C school claim that (33) 76 57 48 64
the errors are no problem in practice (another lie). NeXT Mail
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Date: 28 Jul 1994 23:44:27 GMT
Organization: welcome to nowhere...
Message-ID: <CHRIS.94Jul29014427arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu>
<bchin.775196757@news.andi.org>
<CHRIS.94Jul26210924arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
<bchin.775322802@news.andi.org>
In-reply-to: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org's message of Wed, 27 Jul 1994 15:26:42 GMT
Originator: ARKIN@nice
In article <bchin.775322802@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
> We are running the TTYDSP with Morningstar's PPP product but over
> analog lines. The Adtran *should* work. DialupIP doesn't.
any ideas, why DialupIP doesn't work ? I am still using it at the
moment and do not really like to replace it with a commercial
product...
christian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,comp.infosystems.www
From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: Networking NeXT PCs and PCs running windows!
Message-ID: <CtpE9n.H8K@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Followup-To: poster
Summary: most optimal way to do so...
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:17:46 GMT
greetings NeXT, windows users, and WWW folks,
I have been given the rather interesting task of networking 8-12
NeXT-based PCs with PCs which are running windows. anyone wanna
try to come up with some optimal configurations? here's some specs:
the NeXT-based PCs must be able to be networked between 5 sites in
3 states.
the windows PCs must be able to be networked off of this LAN. ie,
access the NeXT files.
we'll want to access WWW both off of NeXT and the PCs.
i'm looking for recommendations in the network configuration,
hardware requirements (what NeXT machine would make the best
server? or can i use a SUN 670?), keeping in mind that this
network has to be expandable.
many many many many many many thanx,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Hard Disk
Message-ID: <CtpIrq.Iz8@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:55:00 GMT
In article ??? <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> writes:
> In article <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
> groovey@convection.engin.umich.edu (Dawn Kinsey) writes:
>
> > We are in need of more hard disk memory. We have a NeXT station.
> > We would like to know if there are any advantages to internal vs
> > external disks;
>
> DON'T buy a Fujisu M2623FA 405MB for Black hardware.
> It DOES NOT WORK. Believe me I tried.
>
> I have been trying to make it work all week and it's
> not compatible with Black hardware. It works great on
> my NEXTSTEP Intel box but not on Black.
>
> Bell Atlantic also said it was incompatible.
>
> So don't buy a Fujisu...
What he doesn't tell you is that his Fujitsu works as an
external drive on Black hardware, but doesn't work as a
boot drive.
I'd suggest he look up Mark Adler's recent thread, in which
he solved this very problem.
By all means, buy a Fujitsu... you'll be in good company.
The number of NeXToids who have successfully used Fujitsus
takes many decimal places.
--
personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep.
Message-ID: <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:16:21 GMT
In article <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes:
> Does there exist a list or overview of NeXTSTEP apps which
> have been ported, or are planned ported (i.e. the author(s)
> have announced their intent to release a HP version) to HP?
I don't think anyone is keeping an official list, but I can say that AFS
is committed to providing both WriteUp (word processing) and PasteUp (DTP)
on HP within 30 days after NeXT ships the final release of the OS.
Since I haven't complained all month, and it's getting near the end 8^),
I'll take this opportunity to climb on the soapbox and complain about the
lack of a 3.3 Developer release, which means that the only triple-FAT
compiler will be in the HP release. That's going to put quite a damper on
the availability of commercial and non-commercial HP software. Given the
size and state of the market, some developers will not be able to justify
buying their own Gecko just to recompile their apps triple-FAT. And only
kindheartedness on the parts of others will get the public domain stuff
moved across. This was a short-sighted move, and I think it violates the
spirit of what FAT technology is supposed to represent.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "Internet: a giant international network
Stud Hombre Cybermuffin | of intelligent, informed computer
Anderson Financial Systems | enthusiasts, by which I mean 'people
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | without lives.'" -- Dave Barry, 2/6/94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: NXBenchmark Posting (errata)
Message-ID: <1994Jul29.155428.12658@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 15:54:28 GMT
Due to an error, I'm re-posting the newest version of the
NXBench table.
- darcy
-----------------------------------------------
Revision 4, Jul 29, 1994
-----------------------------------------------
This is the weekly NXBenchmark posting. NXBench.app is an application
which allows you to get a decent measurement of the video and integer
performance of a computer running NEXTSTEP. NXFactor uses the NeXT
monochrome 68040 cube as the reference benchmark (1.0).
This document is being maintained by Darcy Brockbank <darcy@hasc.ca>
and will be updated and posted regularly. If you have a machine and/or
configuration not found on this document, please feel free to send me
the results of your NXBench run. Sending in your reports will help us
build a more complete list, and make it more helpful to the community.
DISCLAIMER
----------
Some benchmarks have been submitted by vendors. Also, NXFactor is only
a rough guidline, and is by no means a comprehensive test of graphics
under NEXTSTEP. If any better test exists, I am willing to start this
table from scratch.
CHANGES
-------
(1) Several new Pentium systems have been added to the list.
(2) The Eclipse Pentium/90 had an incorrect Dhrystone listed. It
should be 132,000 instead of the 83 reported.
(3) In an attempt to make this more useful, I have split the table
into three sections: Greyscale, 16bit and 32bit color depths. I
reiterate my call for a new benchmark which will allow us to
more fairly test graphics performance.
IMPORTANT NOTE
--------------
Graphics performance is dependent on color depth. Color depth is
listed as part of the graphics resolution. 2 and 8 bit are both
greyscale, while 16 and 32 bit are color. In general, the more bits
your color depth has, the more work your machine has to do on some of
the benchmark tests. While increasing your color depth results in
slower displays, it also gives you more colors to work with, and so a
more pleasing display. Most PC graphics cards can be configured to use
8, 16 and 32 bit color depths at a variety of screen dimensions and
refresh rates. However, you should note that NEXTSTEP deals with col-
ors internally at 32bit. This means that a graphics adapter can see
significant performance *improvement* when running in 32 bit color,
since the processor doesn't have to dither colors.
NXBench was written by George Fankhauser <george@uptime.ch> and is
available on the archives. This document is formatted with groff and
gtbl, which were written by James Clark <jjc@jclark.com> and is freely
available. Thanks to Henry McGilton <henry@trilithon.com> and Mary
McNabb for writing a way-cool tbl book ``Typesetting Tables on the
UNIX System'' which told me everything I need to know about tbl. I
highly recommend it.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
NXBench 2.0 RESULTS -- Revision 4, Jul 29, 1994
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greyscale NeXT Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
NS Turbo 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/2 35,335 1.49
Cube 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 24,732 1.00
Cube '030 030/25 NeXT 1120x832/2 5,941 0.37
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1120x832/2 35,169 0.37
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Greyscale Intel Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
NoName (Premiere) P-90 #9GXE-64 p 1152x864/8 130,000 1.87
DEC XL560 P-60 Miro32s4 p 1408x1024/8 86,705 1.66
HP Vectra XM 486/66 S3 928 1024x768/8 56,390 1.41
DEC 466 MTE 486/66 ATI 1280x1024/8 62,893 1.22
Gateway DX2/66 486/66 Viper v 1280x1024/8 56,818 1.02
Noname Pent. P-60 Miro p 1024x768/8 85,470 1.02
DELL 466/ME 486/66 S3 VGA 1024x768/8 54,844 0.83
Vobis Pent. P-60 ET4k i 1024x768/2 85,714 0.66
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
16 bit NeXT (Reference) Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
NS Turbo Clr 040/33 NeXT 1120x832/16 35,377 0.78
NS Color 040/25 NeXT 1120x832/16 25,884 0.57
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
16 bit Intel Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
NoName (Premiere) P-90 #9GXE-64 p 1280x1024/16 130,000 1.70
JCIS NXP90 P-90 Wtk9100 p ??? 131,578 1.46
eCesys 590 P-90 Wtk9100 p 1152x900/16 132,000 1.46
Advanced 2000 P-66 Miro 16s 1024x768/16 97,323 1.42
Micron P.S. P-90 Stealth64 p 1152x900/16 132,156 1.25
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1376x1024/16 96,463 1.22
JCIS NXP66 P-66 #9GXE-64/4 p 1280x1024/16 95,846 1.13
JCIS NXP66 P-66 Wtk9100 p ??? 95,846 1.13
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 1280x1024/8 63,965 1.12
JCIS NX499 486/100 Wingine v ??? 76,276 1.12
DEC XL560 P-60 mr32s4 p 1280x1024/16 86,705 1.04
Dell Dimnsn XPS P-60 #9 gxe v ??? 81,743 1.04
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ET4kW32 ??? 84,507 1.02
Zenon P90 (OPTi) P-90 #9GXE-64/4 p 1152x900/16 132,000 1.01
SNI PCE-5S P-60 ATI v ??? 86,705 0.99
Pkrd Bell P-60 ATI ? 1024x768/16 82,191 0.98
DELL 450DE/2 486/50 JAWS 1120x832/16 44,510 0.90
ALR Evolution V P-60 ATI v 1024x768/16 86,206 0.83
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 58,365 0.83
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57,581 0.83
JCIS NX466 486/66 Wingine v ??? 61,855 0.83
eCesys 486/66 Wingine 1024x768/16 58,374 0.83
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59,171 0.82
Compaq Dskpr 5-60 P-60 ATI e 1024x768/16 82,872 0.81
Gateway 66V 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 56,710 0.79
Intel GX 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 57,581 0.78
Noname 486/66 ATI v 1120x832/16 62,111 0.76
UNISYS U6kDT-2 486/66 ATI 1024x768/16 54,347 0.75
AST Premmia 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 35,587 0.70
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 64,516 0.70
Unisys DT2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768 50,761 0.70
AcerPower 466de 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61,728 0.69
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 61,475 0.69
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 QVision 800x600/16 63,559 0.68
DG 66LE2 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 59,171 0.68
Epson Prog. 486/50 Wingine 1024x768/16 45,248 0.67
Gateway 2000 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 55,350 0.66
Vobis Pent. P-60 Miro8S p 800x600/16 85,714 0.63
Royal Super 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 62,630 0.60
DELL 466/ME 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 53,097 0.52
Clone 486 486/66 ATI v 1024x768/16 49,916 0.50
Clone 486/33 ATI v 1024x768/16 30,643 0.47
Compaq Dskpr 66M 486/66 ATI e 1024x768/16 55,555 0.43
DTK (noname) 486/50 ATI e 1024x768/16 37,037 0.24
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
32 bit NeXT (Reference) Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
ND Turbo 040/33 i860 1120x832/32 35,169 0.83
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
32 bit Intel Hardware
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Machine | CPU | Graphics | Bench @ Res | Dhrys | NXFact
------------------+---------+--------------+--------------+---------+--------
Eclipse 850e P-90 Stealth64 p 1024x768/32 132,000 1.72
NoName (Premiere) P-90 #9GXE-64 p 1152x864/32 130,000 1.64
Noname P-66 Elsa Wnr p 1152x864/32 96,463 1.63
Micron P.S. P-90 Stealth64 p 1152x900/32 132,156 1.48
JCIS NXP66 P-66 #9GXE-64/4 p 1152x900/32 95,846 1.31
DEC XL560 P-60 Miro32s4 p 1024x768/32 86,705 1.23
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Conversion: Black-2-White, issues?
Date: 29 Jul 1994 17:50:17 GMT
Organization: MSU KBS Lab
Sender: punch@sol (Bill Punch)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31bfgp$ntm@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
OK, here's my story. I bought a color slab when they first came out, and
kept it till last week. I had to sell it, mostly because the two
packages I depend upon the most (Smalltalk and FrameMaker) were not
being updated. I have between $4-5 K to buy a new machine.
I thought about a PowerMac, and still am, but I frankly can't much stand
the MacOS. So I'm thinking about a P5-90 running NeXTStep, but I have
some questions:
1) Are there any documented P5-90 system configurations one can buy and
will work? I've seen the discussion about the Dell XPS-90, how hard is
it to set one of these up to run NS-white?
2) How much can one expect to pay for a fairly minimal system (16Mb, 17"
screen, 500Gb drive)?
3) How does running on such a system compare to say a NeXT non-turbo
color slab? Any "feelings" on it from people who know?
4) How hard is it to switch back and forth from Windows to NS? I want to
buy "mainline" software for Windows, so this being left behind doesn't
happen to me again.
I'm trying to talk myself into NS-white, but the complications with all
the incompatibilities is a bit daunting. Any help appreciated.
>>>bill<<<
From: fraserjo@nic.cerf.net (Jody Fraser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Date: 29 Jul 1994 18:05:35 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Sender: Jody Fraser <fraserjo@cerf.net>
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <31bgdf$pp7@news.cerf.net>
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <311gcd$7bh@usenet.rpi.edu> <bchin.775196757@news.andi.org> <CHRIS.94Jul26210924arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
Keywords: NeXT, ISDN, BRI, TA, NT1
You might also want to look into the Pipeline 50 Access
Router from Ascend Commuinications, Alameda, California.
List $1700. Contains both NT1 and TA. Handles IP, Appletalk,
and IPX. Transports traffic via PPP. It's also black.... ;)
Cheers,
Jody Fraser
fraserjo@cerf.net
From: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Date: 29 Jul 1994 18:33:34 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <31bi1u$13h@rosie.next.com>
References: <31bgdf$pp7@news.cerf.net>
In article <31bgdf$pp7@news.cerf.net> fraserjo@nic.cerf.net (Jody Fraser)
writes:
> You might also want to look into the Pipeline 50 Access
> Router from Ascend Commuinications, Alameda, California.
> List $1700. Contains both NT1 and TA. Handles IP, Appletalk,
> and IPX. Transports traffic via PPP. It's also black.... ;)
>
Better yet, this is one of two ISDN routers that PSI Communications supports
for commercial ISDN Internet access (available in many metropolitan areas,
coming soon to a theatre near you, check local listings for details).
And, as you said, it's Black. :)
- Mark "Here I Am, Not Speaking For NeXT Again" Dadgar
--
- Mark Dadgar
Network/Systems Administrator, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM - The Object *IS* The Advantage
From: emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next Printer Problems
Date: 29 Jul 1994 18:53:17 GMT
Organization: UF Department of Statistics
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31bj6tINN9pg@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: Paper jams, Paper feed
We are having problems with one of our 400 dpi next laser
printer. Paper goes in about 3 inches into the printer and
gets jammed. If we maually give the paper a slight push,
it goes in and the printing takes place.
Any suggestion/help in this regard would be appreciated.
--
Egbert Maben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Problems with miro 20SD-driver Rev.3 V.1.00
Message-ID: <1994Jul29.195140.25895@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> <318nvt$58s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 19:51:40 GMT
In article <318nvt$58s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
>In article <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
>karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) writes:
>> I just received the new NS-driver for the miro 20SD PCI.
>>
>> If I start my machine with config=Default the screen (and the mousepointer)
>show for a second or two, then it turns black. The system is running (I can
>login blindly and force an audio signal).
>
>
>No, I don't have a solution, unfortunately. I am waiting for my miro 20SD,
>which I ordered recently, and I am thus interested in solutions, too. If
>anybody wants to mail ...
I missed the original posting, but if this is the case:
- logging in with config=Default
- VGA video doesn't work properly, so you can't see anything
Then you might want to add the video driver for the miro to the
Active Drivers section of /usr/Devices/System.config/Default.table:
"Active Drivers" = "BusMouse SerialPorts SerialMouse ParallelPort VGA";
Just stick your video driver in there, so whenever you boot config=Default
it will try to load the miro driver. You may or may not want to remove the
VGA driver. Experiment.
Now, there may be something stupid about this approach, but I don't
see any problems with it.
- db
--
I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are
millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small
for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back
for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre)
Subject: Compaq XE 560 Config Problems
Message-ID: <dalCtpzsJ.JAF@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 21:02:43 GMT
After trying to get NS 3.2 installed on my new Compaq Pentium, I've
solved all but three problems
1. NS only recognizes 16mb of the 40mb of memory.
2. I installed the new QVision driver (1.1) and no matter what
screen size I set it at, it always is 640x480. (I have 2mb VRAM)
3. The Compaq Business Audio doesn't work. I have no idea what
to set the DMA and IRQ at, or what port addresses I should be using.
Does any have configuration info on a similar machine?
I'd love to get all the DMA,IRQ, and Port Addresses for any devices
that you have attached.
Besides these problems, everything else works great.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Dana Letendre |
President, LC | You don't learn anything when you're
NeXT Sys Admin | talking.
From: andrewa@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep.
Date: 29 Jul 1994 21:45:47 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <31btab$gdt@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com>
In article <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory
H. Anderson) writes:
> Since I haven't complained all month, and it's getting near the end 8^),
> I'll take this opportunity to climb on the soapbox and complain about
the
> lack of a 3.3 Developer release, which means that the only triple-FAT
> compiler will be in the HP release.
[...]
> This was a short-sighted move, and I think it violates the
> spirit of what FAT technology is supposed to represent.
Amen! Is NeXT really not going to provide a triple-fat compiler to
those of us without HPs? They don't have to call it 3.3 - continue
to call it 3.2, but send it out to all registered 3.2 developer owners,
even if they charge a little for shipping, media & effort.
To continue this, keep in mind that NeXTstep/SPARC is due at
the end of the year; if we don't get another developer release
before 4.0, that means two out of four architectures that many of us
won't be able to compile for, and for no good reason (or at least no
reason has been given).
--
andrew.abernathy@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com
(NeXTmail spoken here; MIME in a pinch)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Message-ID: <Ctq4Jq.18B@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <31bi1u$13h@rosie.next.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 22:45:24 GMT
In article <31bi1u$13h@rosie.next.com> Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar)
writes:
> In article <31bgdf$pp7@news.cerf.net> fraserjo@nic.cerf.net (Jody Fraser)
> writes:
> > You might also want to look into the Pipeline 50 Access
> > Router from Ascend Commuinications, Alameda, California.
> > List $1700. Contains both NT1 and TA. Handles IP, Appletalk,
> > and IPX. Transports traffic via PPP. It's also black.... ;)
> >
>
> Better yet, this is one of two ISDN routers that PSI Communications supports
> for commercial ISDN Internet access (available in many metropolitan areas,
> coming soon to a theatre near you, check local listings for details).
>
> And, as you said, it's Black. :)
Oh, wow, here's hoping that Cerf and NeXT cough up huge salary raises
for Jody and Mark.
It turns out that one of our (Austin) local connectivity vendors (Zilker
Internet Park) resells the Pipeline 50 at a discount.
Sooooo many thanks, you two!
--
personal opinions
From: stoleson@risc73357.rchland.ibm.com (David Stoleson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Next Printer Problems
Date: 29 Jul 1994 23:03:21 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31c1rp$1cad@locutus.rchland.ibm.com>
References: <31bj6tINN9pg@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: Paper jams, Paper feed
--
In article <31bj6tINN9pg@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>, emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben) writes:
|> We are having problems with one of our 400 dpi next laser
|> printer. Paper goes in about 3 inches into the printer and
|> gets jammed. If we maually give the paper a slight push,
|> it goes in and the printing takes place.
|> Any suggestion/help in this regard would be appreciated.
|>
|>
|>
|> --
|> Egbert Maben
|>
I had that happen when I first got my printer (used). I opened the lid,
"fooled around" for awhile, close the lid and bingo. It worked. Don't know
why or how, just worked.
You might try just "fooling around" with the different sprockets and gizmo's
inside the printer.
-dave
From: Mark G. Tacchi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing NEXTSTEP on the second IDE drive: how to do that?
Date: 29 Jul 1994 22:57:42 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31c1h6$1e8@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994Jul29.092029.3481@imag.fr>
In article <1994Jul29.092029.3481@imag.fr> arrouye@petole.imag.fr (Yves
Arrouye) writes:
> Hello,
>
> The subject says it: I would like to install NEXTSTEP on the 2nd IDE drive of
> my system (the first drive already has DOS and Linux).
> I tried to install yesterday but after the installation procedure
> reboots the machine after the formatting of the disk, I am not able to boot
> on the second drive instead. Is there a solution to that? Of course I would
> like to be able to choose my system at boot time, too.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Yves.
Yes, there is a solution. Check out the article that I wrote in the Spring
1994 NEXTSTEP InFocus, it's called "Booting from a Second IDE Drive." See Page
27.
This is the gist of it. To boot from the secondary drive, you need some means
of interrupting the boot procedure and telling your PC to boot from the
secondary IDE. One way to do this is to boot from the NEXTSTEP boot floppy
that came with the OS and tell it to load the mach_kernel from the secondary
IDE and make it the root device. Another less tedious method, would be to boot
from the primary drive and have it prompt which drive to boot from.
--
Mark G. Tacchi
System Support Engineer
NeXT Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace)
Subject: wishing for a compiler upgrade from NeXT
Message-ID: <jgraceCtqH3G.93y@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com> <31btab$gdt@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 03:16:28 GMT
In article <31btab$gdt@ftp-p.mccaw.com>,
Andrew Abernathy <andrewa@axysdev.nwest.mccaw.com> wrote:
>In article <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory
>H. Anderson) writes:
>
>> Since I haven't complained all month, and it's getting near the end 8^),
>> I'll take this opportunity to climb on the soapbox and complain about
>the
>> lack of a 3.3 Developer release, which means that the only triple-FAT
>> compiler will be in the HP release.
>[...]
>> This was a short-sighted move, and I think it violates the
>> spirit of what FAT technology is supposed to represent.
>
>Amen! Is NeXT really not going to provide a triple-fat compiler to
>those of us without HPs? They don't have to call it 3.3 - continue
>to call it 3.2, but send it out to all registered 3.2 developer owners,
>even if they charge a little for shipping, media & effort.
Personally, I hope they put the sources for the new (updated with
bug fixes, C++, and HP) compiler on ftp.next.com. That would
save NeXT the time and money of handling a mailing and would
readily satisfy their developer community.
What would be really incredible, though, would be for NeXT to
make the compiler available ASAP, i.e., even *before* HP is
released! (Presumably the compiler has been stable for some time
and could readily be uploaded to ftp.next.com.)
In any case, I look forward to getting the new compiler.
Wishfully,
= Joe =
From: fraserjo@nic.cerf.net (Jody Fraser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Date: 30 Jul 1994 04:33:38 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Sender: fraserjo@cerf.net <Jody Fraser>
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <31cl72$8tj@news.cerf.net>
References: <31bi1u$13h@rosie.next.com> <Ctq4Jq.18B@txnews.amd.com>
Keywords: ISDN, NT1, TA, NeXT
Ha!
Don't jump to conclusions! Who said I worked for CERFnet, or
was even representing them? Good grief, I live in GTE land,
so I can't even get ISDN to my house yet.
No, I am speaking from the experience of working with the
Ascend products myself (on the job). I know they can be had
cheaper than list (that's why I said LIST $$$). I just think it's a
a product that fills its niche quite aptly for the price - and
it's not bad to look at either...
Cheers,
Jody Fraser
fraserjo@cerf.net
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: <erictremblay@genie.geis.com>
Message-ID: <199407300729.AA097573359@relay2.geis.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 94 06:56:00 UTC
Subject: Fujisu and Black Hardware
After saying this week that Fujisu M2623FA 405MB is incompatible and that
you should not buy it for the Black hardware. Well, I have to say that I was
wrong in stating that. I finally got it working. So, I'd like to say I'm
sorry to the people at Fujisu even if they were absolutely no help
in solving my problem.
I owe the solution to Bill at BCHIN@NEXTSRV1.ANDI.ORG who was VERY NICE and
HELPFUL in pointing out to me that I needed to remove the "Sync mode
transfer req." jumper. Now why did'nt I know that...
So now, everything boots just fine using my Fujisu and Black.
Thank you again Bill for taking a moment to write to me and
clearing up this mess.
Eric "E.T." Tremblay
From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel boot problems
Date: 30 Jul 1994 08:33:06 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
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References: <319eqr$gnq@relay.tor.hookup.net>
In article <319eqr$gnq@relay.tor.hookup.net>, <tdave@raivac.com> wrote:
>I have a 2GB Fuji drive that I am trying to make the boot drive on a 486
>DX2. The drive is recognized and the boot process starts but then
>terminates with the error "Thread wait for interupt returns -735". Has
>anyone come across this problem. I seem to vaguely remember a similar
>posting but I can't find any reference to it now.
>
>Regards,
>Dave Thompson
>Driveless in Stouffville
On my system, I got the infamous error and solved it by setting
my Adaptec 1742C to the default settings the driver apparently requires,
namely IRQ 11, DMA 5, SCSI 7. I assume that if the IRQ isn't set to 11, this
is the error you will get.
Duane
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From: oscara@aol.com (OscarA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2.88 floppy on NeXT 3.2 (intel)
Date: 30 Jul 1994 08:38:04 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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I am having problems getting NeXTStep to work with my 2.88mb floppy disk
drive.
It seems to work fine if I change my CMOS setup and tell it that a 1.44mb
floppy is installed, however if I select 2.88mb NeXTStep ignores any
request to access
that floppy drive. Does any have any suggestions?
Thank you in advance.
Oscar S. Alonso
oscara@aol.com
From: kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Seeking Advice on Hard Disk
Date: 30 Jul 1994 13:05:24 GMT
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Distribution: world
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References: <CtpIrq.Iz8@txnews.amd.com>
In-reply-to: charles.herrick@amd.com's message of Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:55:00 GMT
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jul 1994 14:55:00 GMT, charles.herrick@amd.com said:
c.h> In article ??? <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> writes:
> In article <316815INN583@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
> groovey@convection.engin.umich.edu (Dawn Kinsey) writes:
>
> > We are in need of more hard disk memory. We have a NeXT station.
> > We would like to know if there are any advantages to internal vs
> > external disks;
>
> DON'T buy a Fujisu M2623FA 405MB for Black hardware.
> It DOES NOT WORK. Believe me I tried.
>
> I have been trying to make it work all week and it's
> not compatible with Black hardware. It works great on
> my NEXTSTEP Intel box but not on Black.
>
> Bell Atlantic also said it was incompatible.
>
> So don't buy a Fujisu...
c.h> What he doesn't tell you is that his Fujitsu works as an
c.h> external drive on Black hardware, but doesn't work as a
c.h> boot drive.
c.h> I'd suggest he look up Mark Adler's recent thread, in which
c.h> he solved this very problem.
There is a very old + detailed document regarding how to make
the Fujitsu disk bootable Izumi Ohzawa and others at
sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/docs/fujitsu.recipe
some of it dates back to 1990, in fact. I am not sure that it
applies to the particular model, but I see why not. In any case,
I think it is worth looking at. Hope it helps some people.
c.h> By all means, buy a Fujitsu... you'll be in good company.
c.h> The number of NeXToids who have successfully used Fujitsus
c.h> takes many decimal places.
c.h> --
c.h> personal opinions
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... posting from kyoto....
From: brian@umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN on NeXT Black running 3.2, 3.3 ...
Date: 30 Jul 1994 10:40:01 -0400
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Message-ID: <31doo1INNa5q@umbc7.umbc.edu>
References: <CtI9Gu.IBD@txnews.amd.com> <CHRIS.94Jul26210924arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> <bchin.775322802@news.andi.org> <CHRIS.94Jul29014427arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
In article <CHRIS.94Jul29014427arkin@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>,
Christian Limpach <chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch> wrote:
>In article <bchin.775322802@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>
>> We are running the TTYDSP with Morningstar's PPP product but over
>> analog lines. The Adtran *should* work. DialupIP doesn't.
>
>any ideas, why DialupIP doesn't work ? I am still using it at the
>moment and do not really like to replace it with a commercial
>product...
>
DialupIP doesn't work because the packet driver is somehow wired directly
to the tty device (don't ask me, ask Louie).
PNI, however, works great with the TTYDSP since it uses a daemon to bang
packets out any interface you want. I've been using TTYDSP with the PNI
product for quite a while now and both are GREAT. Highly recommended.
-brian
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From: smuir@ix.netcom.com (Steve Muir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with miro 20SD-driver Rev.3 V.1.00
Date: 30 Jul 1994 14:25:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31dnt0$9n1@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <1994Jul29.195140.25895@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>
>In article <318nvt$58s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
>>In article <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
>>karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) writes:
>>> I just received the new NS-driver for the miro 20SD PCI.
>>>
>>> If I start my machine with config=Default the screen (and the mousepointer)
>>show for a second or two, then it turns black. The system is running (I can
>>login blindly and force an audio signal).
>>
>>
>>No, I don't have a solution, unfortunately. I am waiting for my miro 20SD,
>>which I ordered recently, and I am thus interested in solutions, too. If
>>anybody wants to mail ...
>
>I missed the original posting, but if this is the case:
>
>- logging in with config=Default
>- VGA video doesn't work properly, so you can't see anything
>
>Then you might want to add the video driver for the miro to the
>Active Drivers section of /usr/Devices/System.config/Default.table:
>
>"Active Drivers" = "BusMouse SerialPorts SerialMouse ParallelPort VGA";
>
>Just stick your video driver in there, so whenever you boot config=Default
>it will try to load the miro driver. You may or may not want to remove the
>VGA driver. Experiment.
>
>Now, there may be something stupid about this approach, but I don't
>see any problems with it.
>
>- db
I missed the original post, as well. We had 2 guys from miro in our office
this week who acknowledged the 'no video signal' problem in their original
driver. They said they had fixed the problem 'very recently' with a new
driver (they didn't have it with them, so we couldn't try it). BTW, they
brought a miro 40SV PCI and their alpha driver they'd just gotten from
Germany for testing on our P90 and the driver wouldn't load (back to the
drawing board :( )
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: End of NXBenchmarking.
Message-ID: <1994Jul30.153304.10071@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 15:33:04 GMT
Hello all.
Someone submitting an NXBenchmark to my list remarked that there is
a reproducable bug in NXBench. If you move the window before
running the NXFactor test, your benchmark will come out at 25%
less than it should be. This invalidates all submitted benchmark
scores.
Here's an example: my #9GXE will NXBench at 1.78 if I don't move
the window, and 1.32 if I do.
Moreover, I ran NXBench several times in a row, and received wildly
varying results in individual scores (ie. 0.9 followed by 1.4 in
line drawing). This combined with the beneral bogosity of NXBench
(in comparing apples to oranges) has lead me to termainte the
NXBench list.
I am following up on a hint from NeXT about a superior video
benchmark that is out there (who has it right now, I don't know).
When I get this benchmark test and verify it, I'll put it up
for ftp, and begin recording and posting scores again. So, the
information will get out there again soon, it's just that NXBench
is just too flaky.
If anyone has info about this mysterious video benchmark, please send me
some email!
THanks,
- darcy
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From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Message-ID: <CtpxnC.KrL@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Keywords: pentium, intel motherboard, crap
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
References: <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20:16:24 GMT
In article <310r4r$8lq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@mail.vt.edu writes:
>
> -------------- PENTIUM USERS --------------
>
>If anyone else is having a similiar problem with their
>90, 66, or 60 MHz pentium sporadically locking up please
>speak up. And if you're system is plugging along just fine
>using a PCI video card and an ISA/EISA/PCI scsi controller
>I would like to here from you as well, just for my piece of
>mind.
>
I just installed NSi on a no-name we built from a Mercury chipset
PCI-60 motherboard, Adaptec 1452CF and a Diamond Stealth PCI graphics
card. Its been up and in use for three weeks without a crash.
I would be very careful about overheating, though. We have two
fans in the case and a chip fan on the chip.
Steve
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From: Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hard Drive Question
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 18:53:20 -0500
Organization: Amaranth Communications
Message-ID: <2.47640512.MPD@mpd.amaranth.com>
Has anyone used a Maxtor XT-8380S on a NeXT Cube 030. If so whats the trick
I keep getting SCSI Error on boot.
Thanks
Mark Pappas
Mark.Pappas@mpd.amaranth.com
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: wishing for a compiler upgrade from NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Aug1.100227.14367@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <jgraceCtqH3G.93y@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 10:02:27 GMT
The GNU/NeXT ObjectiveC++ is on the latest GAMMA HP-PA RISC dev CDROM.
It is based on gcc 2.5.8
The package is about 12.3 Meg.
Because I don t have direct ftp access I can t upload the package.
IMHO I don t think that the NeXT NDA will prevent uploading a GNU package
on any ftp site.
Cheers
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From: felix (Felix Rauch)@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [black] Station suddenly switching itself off
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:18:10 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <1994Aug1.151810.681@harka>
Originator: HARKA@nice
I have a problem with my NeXTstation color: It switches itself off
without any warnings.
The first time it happened, it was just after I booted the system and
logged in. Suddenly the screen went dark, the internal hard disk drive
stopped. The external hard disk drive's LED was still red. For the
next 15 minutes, I couldn't switch the station on again (no reaction
when I hit the Power-key).
The second time it happened was also short time after booting: The
screen went dark, the 'Testing system' message appeared and the system
rebooted (with long disk-checks of course). After rebooting,
everything seemed to be normal.
From the next day on, sometimes I couldn't start the machine (no
reaction on pressing the Power-key), sometimes I could (as today.
uptime is now 4 hrs. and everything seems normal). But no more
switch-offs happened...
What are your suggestions? New Power-supply? New batteries? Has
anybody else had such a behavior? Could it be the fact that I switch
it on and off daily (I even switch off the socket)?
My machine is now 1.75 years old, switched on and off more or less
daily, standalone, running 10-60% of the time.
Any help is much appreciated.
- Felix
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: anyone using a Canon object.station 41 yet?...
Message-ID: <Ctv4pE.JM1@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <RHESS.94Jul31163338@adoc.xerox.COM>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:36:47 GMT
In article <RHESS.94Jul31163338@adoc.xerox.COM> rhess@adoc.xerox.COM (Richard
L. Hess) writes:
>>
>> The Canon object.station 41 looks good on paper, but is anyone using it?
>>If so, do you think it's worth the price? Anyone have any clues as to when
>>their next machines
>>
Until you get to the bottom line ;-)
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: anyone using a Canon object.station 41 yet?...
Message-ID: <Ctv4rC.Jo1@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <1994Aug1.013627.17117@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:37:52 GMT
In article <1994Aug1.013627.17117@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>>In article <RHESS.94Jul31163338@adoc.xerox.COM> rhess@adoc.xerox.COM (Richard
L. Hess) writes:
>>>
>>> The Canon object.station 41 looks good on paper, but is anyone using it?
>>>If so, do you think it's worth the price? Anyone have any clues as to when
>>>their next machines
>>
>>They ship on Tuesday. Canon just gave me a price of $4020 (I think)
>>for a 16/500 machine with an internal CD-ROM drive. Not bad...
Does that include a monitor, keybd, mouse ?
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Advanced Micro Devices
CIM Applications Group
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From: bff@next.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth)
Subject: Big Problems
Message-ID: <Ctv82u.KGw@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 16:49:42 GMT
I am having big problems with my Compaq and NextStep.
COMPAQ 66/M
DPT 2012/B SCSI Controller
500 and 200Mb drives
The system crashed the other day and blew away the /etc and /usr/Devices
directory. I restored from CDROM both directories and rebooted. The
system came up and since the /usr/Devices had default values it prompted
me for the config of my system.
All that went without incident. However, now the system recognizes that I
have two SCSI hard drives but it is in an infinite loop about the
secondary hard drive in that it keeps wanting to initialize it. I did
initialize it once but it keeps starting the BuildDisk application.
What can I do???
Brendan
PS. This is the second time that the system has crashed and seriously
blew away data. Any ideas about a solution?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Message-ID: <CtuHqL.1zx@clive>
Sender: paul@clive (Paul Marcos)
Organization: dCode
References: <CttFsL.K49@nbn.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 07:20:45 GMT
In article <CttFsL.K49@nbn.com> booker@next.sdsc.edu (Booker C. Bense)
writes:
> In article <CtM0zp.Bt3@ilink.de>, Eike Dierks <eike@ilink.de> wrote:
> >In article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles
> >Winthrop Clark) writes:
> >> Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
> >>
>
> - Quantum 105's are notorious for locking up after a powerdown. The
> lubricant freezes up the drive when it gets cold. The recommended
> procedure is to take the drive out of the cpu and bang it against the
> tabletop and see if the drive comes to life. ( I am very serious
> here). The original sparcstation uses these drives and this is a very
> common problem. With the price of disk drives today, just replace it,
> it's not worth living with. You can get 1 gig drive for about $800
> bucks.
>
I used to work for Quantum right around the time that this was a plaquing
problem for them. I don't think any engineer there would tell you to bang
your hard drive on a tabletop for fear of crashing the heads on the
platter (especially with some of the older models).
The problem the previous poster is refering to is called stiction and has
been a problem for most drive manufacturers in the past. Quantum has
since fixed this problem by having their drives engage the head and
platter motors at some time interval to make sure the lubrication doesn't
cause the drive to stop spinning. At any rate, the way to try to fix this
problem is by holding the drive from the top and spinning it back and
forth like a washing machine moves. The purpose is to try to get the
platters freed up at which point the motor will be able to move them
again.
If when you power your computer up you hear the drive spinning and the
heads clicking then stiction is not your problem. Outside of that I agree
with the previous poster that if the drive is dead pick up a new one.
They're dirt cheap these days.
Paul
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: wishing for a compiler upgrade from NeXT
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 13:39:46 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YiDHBWu00WBO84Vkx0@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Aug1.100227.14367@free.fdn.org>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 1-Aug-94 Re: wishing for a
compiler .. by Fabien Roy@free.fdn.org
> IMHO I don't think that the NeXT NDA will prevent uploading a GNU package
> on any ftp site.
NeXT cannot use GNU software except under the GNU General Public
License; their NDA cannot restrict distribution of gcc without NeXT
itself being in violation of the GPL.
(However, I'm not a lawyer. Besides, I'd much rather have NeXT say:
"Yeah, if you want to, go upload it", or better yet: "Here's an
unsupported version on ftp.next.com; enjoy!" then have to fight with
their legal staff over the terms of a NDA.)
-Chuck
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: Incredulous - PC Mouse III doesn't work
Message-ID: <thompsonCtvCFs.C8x@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Summary: trackball kensington expert mouse 4.0
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
References: <CtBz21.2xs@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 18:23:52 GMT
Is anyone using a Kensington Expert Mouse 4.0 (trackball) with NS/Intel?
I tried connecting it to an Intel GX on the PS/2 mouse port, and it works,
but it has very choppy tracking and jumps around (backwards) if you move it
even slightly too fast.
I've tried changing the resolution in Configure.app and the mouse speed in
Preferences.app, and even ran Kensington's EBASICS program to see if there
was something I could set in the mouse, but none of these factors changed
the lack of smoothness from the trackball.
Any help is appreciated.
Eric
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From: lsanchez@cree.ucs.indiana.edu ("jesus sanchez-saenz")
Subject: Canon Object.Station or NEC ImageNX?
Message-ID: <CtvFrB.Ju5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 19:35:35 GMT
I have to decide between the above systems. I already have all the
technical information and prices. I would like to hear from people who
might have an opinion based on how perfomance looked like in recent NeXT
expo. I remember seeing a note by someone who saw the object.station and
NEC's ExpressNX.
Thanxs
Leonardo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: HP 712/60 BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11)
Message-ID: <1994Aug1.204253.15519@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 20:42:53 GMT
1) A result of a test (BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11)) has been
erroneously posted to csnh, this test was showing very file bad copy/write
results.
The reason was NFS (file copy/write was made on a NFS mounted volume).
My apologies for that post.
2) Could some body tell me how to cancel a post from NG, and how much time
do I get to make the cancelation.
Thanks
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From: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: LaserJet 4 on Blackhardware
Date: 2 Aug 1994 00:19:06 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <31k3dq$nb4@portal.gmu.edu>
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Hello,
Yesterday I posted about using the printer port on Black
Hardware. Well I went and bought a 4meg upgrade for my LaserJet4. I now
have 6megs RAM, and Postscript Simm installed. I have used
PrintManager.app to install a new printer on my NeXTstation Color. I set
it to the following configuration:
Access: Private
Communications: Serial
Port: A
Baud Rate: 19200
Hardware Handshaking: On
Type: HP LaserJet4 PostScript 600DPI
I have set the printers configuration to match the NeXT's. When I try
the test nothing happens. It shows up in the printer queue, but nothing
seems to go to the printer. This also occurs if I try to print form
Edit.app and even lpr, the lpd is running and the job enters in lpq. I
tryed connecting the serial cable to my modem and then printing. The RD
and SD lights blinked so it would seem to be recieving data. I know the
serial port is good, because I use it for the modem(only one serial
cable at the moment). And becuase of my test it would seem the NeXT
tries
to print. The printer is online and the Status Screen reads Ready. It
never evens seems to get any data. Does anyone have a guess as to what
is going on with my machine? Anyone using the same setup as I am? Any
help would be much appreciated. I have talked to NeXT Support since I
wrote this original post. I now know that I need a null-modem cable(so
they say) to connect to a printer. I have a null modem and placed it
betwen the NeXTstation and the printer, however I can only get it to
print with Xon/Xoff, not hardware handshaking. This makes it print
very slowly. I have a modem cable I purchased from Paradigm shift, that
works on NeXTstations, and I use for my modem with Hardware handshaking,
if I use the null-modem i should be able to use hardware handshaking
with the printer. I also used the conitnue on the printer to print an
error message to see what is happening. When I try to print the
PrintManager.app test page with Hardware Handshaking this is the error
I get:
ERROR: undefined
OFFENDING COMMAND:-
STACK:
/currentpackingerprint
Any clues from LaserJet4 users out there. Thanks.
Jonathan Gardner
jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with miro 20SD-driver Rev.3 V.1.00
Date: 2 Aug 1994 03:21:10 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <31ke36$kef@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> <318nvt$58s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Lars Konieczny (lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de) wrote:
: In article <CtnC1w.9uu@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
: karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) writes:
: > I just received the new NS-driver for the miro 20SD PCI.
: >
: > If I start my machine with config=Default the screen (and the mousepointer)
: show for a second or two, then it turns black. The system is running (I can
: login blindly and force an audio signal).
: No, I don't have a solution, unfortunately. I am waiting for my miro 20SD,
: which I ordered recently, and I am thus interested in solutions, too. If
: anybody wants to mail ...
I have a miro20SD VESA. I know the VESA bus driver is different than the PCI,
but when I installed my 20SD it would not boot with the default address settings
but when I changed the address to the maximum address (see the info message
in the driver configuration box) it not only booted but I am successfully
using 1152x864 @69Hz. Just a possibility.
Dan dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: HELP: IBM 2 GB as boot disk
Message-ID: <1994Aug2.070012.9303@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 07:00:12 GMT
Hi,
we are using several IBM 0664-M1H disks external at several NeXT
computers. I had to prepare them with the scsitools to be correctly
recognized by the NeXT. Now I wanted to use one of these disks as the
internal boot disk in a NeXT Turbo Color Station but there seems to be
several problems.
- When trying to install NeXTSTEP from CD and starting the system the
disk makes horrible sounds like whack--------whack-------whack and lots
of sense code errors ... retry # ... appears on console window.
Is this a problem of synchronous/asynchronous mode? How do I switch to
the correct mode? There seems to be no jumpers besides the 'normal'
ones.
Any hints are appreciated.
Robert.
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: What is the biggest drive that can be put on a NextStation ?
Message-ID: <CtvI6v.22n@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <31gq49$rrs@sundog.tiac.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 20:28:06 GMT
In article <31gq49$rrs@sundog.tiac.net> shigeru@lamb.tiac.net
(ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) writes:
> Also that you have to partition into less than 2GB spaces each.[...]
Four times the same message. I guess I know, why you need a 5 GB disk...
;-)
Bye, Michael
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*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: kirkp@pacifier.com (Kirk Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: questions about buying NS/intel
Date: 2 Aug 1994 11:36:59 GMT
Organization: Pacifier BBS, Vancouver, Wa. ((206) 693-0325)
Message-ID: <31lb4r$e18@news.pacifier.com>
I just read the FAQ's and I am not sure if some of the information
is up to date. According to the most recent FAQ I could find, there is
very limited hardware support for NS on the intel architecture. My video
card won't work except for maybe in vga/standard mode, and apparantly, only
two cdrom drives are supported, neither of which I can find (I searched all
of computer shopper.)
Please tell me that I am wrong and that more hardware is supported!
p.s. my graphics card is an Orchid Fahrenheit Plus/VLB and
I would rather buy a non-scsi cdrom, if possible. Also, any
hints about support for the Aria16 sound card (with DSP) would
be appreciated.
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From: bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need Canon contact info
Date: 2 Aug 1994 09:21:35 -0700
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <31lrqf$8lp@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
Please provide a contact re: the new Canon station
that runs NS.
Thanks,
bill
--
Bill Eldridge
bill@lifesci.ucla.edu Still confused about bitrates and nitrates.
310-206-3960
310-206-3987 (fax)
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need Canon contact info
Date: 2 Aug 1994 12:28:20 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <31lvnk$jvd@crchh921.bnr.ca>
References: <31lrqf$8lp@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
In article <31lrqf$8lp@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>,
William M. Eldridge <bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> wrote:
>Please provide a contact re: the new Canon station
>that runs NS.
You can contact Kelly Geiger. Her e-mail address is kgeiger@ato.canon.com.
She is the main person for dealing with Canon's object.station 41.
Or you could call Canon's 1-800 number, which is 1-800-349-6007, but they
will just forward you to Kelly. Canon also has a FactsLine where they will
fax you information on any of their products. That number is 1-800-526-4345.
I hope this helps!
Mike
=============================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR.
====================================================================
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: wishing for a compiler upgrade from NeXT
Date: 2 Aug 1994 18:51:39 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <31m4jr$4q3@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <YiDHBWu00WBO84Vkx0@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 1-Aug-94 Re: wishing for a
: compiler .. by Fabien Roy@free.fdn.org
: > IMHO I don't think that the NeXT NDA will prevent uploading a GNU package
: > on any ftp site.
: NeXT cannot use GNU software except under the GNU General Public
: License; their NDA cannot restrict distribution of gcc without NeXT
: itself being in violation of the GPL.
What do you do about getting Green next-written libraries to link with?
: Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: blindsey@atg.wiltel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AUSTIN laptop
Date: 2 Aug 1994 19:51:08 GMT
Organization: Wiltel Advanced Technology Group
Message-ID: <31m83c$gj5@hal01.wiltel.com>
comp.sys.next.hardware,
I just got an Austin TFT laptop 486/66 w/32 megs of memory. It
has an internal local bus Western Digital video adapter w/ 1meg (I have no
idea which specifically). I have NS loaded on it, and am now wondering if
NS has ANY driver that will work for it in any mode... Default VGA works
fine.. If there is no driver, what laptops are supported?
Thanks
-b
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stone@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Peter Steiner)
Subject: [Q] Adaptec AHA-2742(T) Driver ... when will it be available?
Message-ID: <Ctx9uq.HCH@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
Sender: news@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 19:23:14 GMT
Hi folks!
The subject says it all: when will the driver for Adaptec AHA-2742(T)
be available? Will it ever be?
Thanx in advance for any infos
Stone
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From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: DAT drives and NeXTSTEP
Date: 2 Aug 1994 20:35:07 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31malr$d5h@news.nd.edu>
I am thinking about purchasing a Conner 2GB DAT drive (model
4320RT) and have a few questions before I take the plunge.
I've been using an SGI Indigo with a 2GB DAT (Archive/Conner
Python 25601?) with the tapes partitioned into 2 parts. The
mt command on my NeXT doesn't mention anything about multiple
partitions. Will I be limited to single partition tapes if I
want to read and write the tapes on either machine? Is there
a version of mt out there that I can compile for my NeXT in
order to allow multiple partitions? Also, the SGI allows me
to record CDs to DAT, is there a way to play these back on my
NeXT?
Thanks for any input you can provide.
-george
George B. Ross_____NeXTmail welcome_________gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering_______University of Notre Dame
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: [SCSI TAPE]: HP 4 mm DAT or EXABYTE 4 mm DAT?
Message-ID: <1994Aug2.195850.1095@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 19:58:50 GMT
Hello, World!
Answers by e-mail please, not all groups are carried here.
The subject says it all. The EXABYTE 4200 is slightly more expensive and it
seems to be slower. The HP 35470 info doesn't say anything about error
correction. We are going to run them from NEXTSTEP.
Which one is better? Are tapes exchangeable between 2 machines in general. What
about 1 EXA and 1 HP?
I'll summarize if enough response,
Thanks in advance,
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Brian Bias <brian@whetstone.com>
Subject: Re: LaserJet 4 on Blackhardware
Message-ID: <Ctx96o.Jvt@rainman.uucp>
Sender: brian@rainman.uucp (Brian R Bias)
Organization: Whetstone, Inc.
References: <31k3dq$nb4@portal.gmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 19:08:47 GMT
In article <31k3dq$nb4@portal.gmu.edu> jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D
Gardner) writes:
>
> Hello,
>
> Yesterday I posted about using the printer port on Black
> Hardware. Well I went and bought a 4meg upgrade for my LaserJet4. I now
> have 6megs RAM, and Postscript Simm installed. I have used
> PrintManager.app to install a new printer on my NeXTstation Color. I set
> it to the following configuration:
>
> Access: Private
> Communications: Serial
> Port: A
> Baud Rate: 19200
> Hardware Handshaking: On
> Type: HP LaserJet4 PostScript 600DPI
>
> I have set the printers configuration to match the NeXT's. When I try
> the test nothing happens. It shows up in the printer queue, but nothing
> seems to go to the printer. This also occurs if I try to print form
> Edit.app and even lpr, the lpd is running and the job enters in lpq. I
> tryed connecting the serial cable to my modem and then printing. The RD
> and SD lights blinked so it would seem to be recieving data. I know the
> serial port is good, because I use it for the modem(only one serial
> cable at the moment). And becuase of my test it would seem the NeXT
> tries
> to print. The printer is online and the Status Screen reads Ready. It
> never evens seems to get any data. Does anyone have a guess as to what
> is going on with my machine? Anyone using the same setup as I am? Any
> help would be much appreciated. I have talked to NeXT Support since I
> wrote this original post. I now know that I need a null-modem cable(so
> they say) to connect to a printer. I have a null modem and placed it
> betwen the NeXTstation and the printer, however I can only get it to
> print with Xon/Xoff, not hardware handshaking. This makes it print
> very slowly. I have a modem cable I purchased from Paradigm shift, that
> works on NeXTstations, and I use for my modem with Hardware handshaking,
> if I use the null-modem i should be able to use hardware handshaking
> with the printer. I also used the conitnue on the printer to print an
> error message to see what is happening. When I try to print the
> PrintManager.app test page with Hardware Handshaking this is the error
> I get:
>
> ERROR: undefined
> OFFENDING COMMAND:-
>
> STACK:
>
> /currentpackingerprint
>
> Any clues from LaserJet4 users out there. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Jonathan Gardner
> jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
I have a LasertJet4MP attached to serial port A with no problems:
NeXT Colorstation:
Port A
57,600 (rate)
Private
H/W Handshake: ON
LaserJet 4MP (Serial Menu)
Serial = RS-232
Pacing = DTR/DSR
Baud Rate = 57,600
DTR Polarity = HI
Cable ( homebrew Mini-DIN-8 <--> DB-9 ):
DB-9 PIN (HP) SIGNAL ON NeXT
--------------------+----------------------------------
1 CD
2 RxD
3 TxD
4 DTR
5 GND
6 DSR (not one on the NeXT)
7 no connection
8 CTS
9 no connection
This seemed to work for me, but this came from notes and not from buzzing
out the cable. Let me know if this helps. P.S. I like this printer!
--
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Whetstone, Inc. phone: 606.273.1752
e-mail: brian@whetstone.com (NeXTmail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Tape Backup, how does it work?
Message-ID: <CtxCu7.zn@cc.umontreal.ca>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 20:27:42 GMT
I want to purchase a Colorado 2 GB DAT backup device, it is
a SCSI device.
How am I supposed to know if this will work on my Black next cube?
Will I be using DUMP and RESTORE, and will it work automagically
with my Nextstep 3.0?
We're setting up a tcp-ip and nfs network and we want the next
to have the 2gb hard disk and also the DAT backup device. Does
any DAT or tape backup work with the nextstep 3.0? (as long
as it is SCSI?)
Thanks.
Odisseas
--
"L'Homme, Serviteur de l'automate,
deviendrai lui-meme un automate. Un robot."
-- Duhamel
From: t.woo@dstc.edu.au (Tak Woo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Benchmark results for Mach 64 and Viper
Date: 3 Aug 1994 17:53:28 GMT
Organization: DSTC
Sender: tkwoo@spider.it.Bond.edu.au (Tak Woo)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31olio$qa2@surf.kowande.Bond.edu.au>
Hi All,
For those who are interested, here are the benchmarks for
ATI Mach 64 and Diamond Viper on the same Pentinum 66Mhz PCI Box.
Both cards have 2Mb of VRAM running at 1024x768 16bit color. The ATI
is running on the beta version of the Talus driver, therefore the
final version might be faster.
Mach 64(76Hz) Viper
drystones 952.38 93750
VAXMIPS 60.46 59.52
NXFactor 1.23969 1.213693
Regards,
Tak
===============================================================================
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CRC for Distributed Systems Technology
Bond University Phone: +61 (0)75 953301
Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA Fax : +61 (0)75 915609
WWW: http://dstc.Bond.edu.au:91776/tkwoo/tkwoo.html
===============================================================================
From: hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CDROM burner for PA-RISC (or FIP) machine
Date: 2 Aug 1994 22:13:38 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <31mgei$4l8@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
A colleague and I are pricing out an HP 735/125 to run NS 3.2
PA-RISC;
we want to hang a CDROM burner on it. As I understand it, the
playwrite 1000 (ricoh-based system with software for hp 9000/700 or
solaris)
is a single speed (74 minutes to write a cdrom) burner for $3900. My
guess is
that it runs under HP UNIX, but will not work under NS unless we
write our
own driver (we have neither the time nor the interest).
Does anyone out there know of a burner that _will_ work under NS 3.2
PA-RISC?
Alternatively, is there one that would work under NS 3.2 FIP?
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
-John
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: wishing for a compiler upgrade from NeXT
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 19:33:11 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QiDhSrq00iV647HLg0@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <31m4jr$4q3@network.ucsd.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 2-Aug-94 Re: wishing for a
compiler .. by Matt Kennel@inls1.ucsd.e
> : NeXT cannot use GNU software except under the GNU General Public
> : License; their NDA cannot restrict distribution of gcc without NeXT
> : itself being in violation of the GPL.
>
> What do you do about getting Green next-written libraries to link with?
Who cares? If you have gcc-2.5.8 from NeXT, you have the NEXTSTEP/HP
beta and the Green libraries anyway.
The point was for someone to put the NeXT-modified gcc-2.5.8 source to
an ftp site so that people could recompile it for Black or White so that
they can get the new features (such as better C++ support, ala
templates!)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need you 100% US-RDA of
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...."
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: yl20@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Yafei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need Canon contact info
Date: 3 Aug 1994 04:20:41 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Message-ID: <31n5up$r24@tuba.cit.cornell.edu>
References: <31lrqf$8lp@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> <31lvnk$jvd@crchh921.bnr.ca>
vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) writes:
>In article <31lrqf$8lp@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>,
>William M. Eldridge <bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> wrote:
>>Please provide a contact re: the new Canon station
>>that runs NS.
>You can contact Kelly Geiger. Her e-mail address is kgeiger@ato.canon.com.
>She is the main person for dealing with Canon's object.station 41.
Kelly is pretty fluent with the list of features for each configuration
of the object.station, but is not very helpful otherwise. She faxed me the
academic prices that are higher than regular prices. When I called her again,
she promised to check them but never get back to me. I somehow got the
feeling that they are not terribly enthusiatic about selling these NeXT
stations.
From: kirkp@pacifier.com (Kirk Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cheap SCSI card for CDROM needed...
Date: 3 Aug 1994 05:45:22 GMT
Organization: Pacifier BBS, Vancouver, Wa. ((206) 693-0325)
Message-ID: <31nati$769@news.pacifier.com>
I have gotten all of the other hardware difficulties worked out
to upgrade my machine to NeXTStep, but I am in need of a SCSI card so
that I can run a CDROM drive. I don't want to spend a lot, since I will
only be using it to install (could someone tell me if the installation
CD is used very much after installation). However, since I am only using
it a little bit, I don't need very much speed. I have seen several CDROM
drives that come with SCSI adapters, such as the Future Domain TMC-850M
or the Adaptec AVA-1515. Are these SCSI adapters supported?
If there are any noticable errors in my thought process above,
please point them out, it will probably save me big bucks.
Thanks
Kirk Petersen
kirkp@pacifier.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scottc@agora.rdrop.com (Scott Christley)
Subject: ET4000 video adapter
Sender: news@agora.rdrop.com (USENET News)
Organization: RainDrop Laboratories
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 05:15:53 GMT
Message-ID: <Cty1AI.Gz6@agora.rdrop.com>
I have vanilla brand ET4000 video adapter but i am unable to get NS to
work at a higher resolution than the default VGA. I have a mondo $$ 20"
multi-sync monitor that Windows has no problems showing 1280 x 1024
resolution and everything in between.
When I select the ET4000 adapter and reboot, I don't get garbage instead
I get an actual screen but it "flips". You know how with old TVs there
was the horizontal position knob and if you turned it too far the whole
screen would scroll up and "flip"; well that is basically what I am getting.
Yes Yes I looked for that exact same button on my monitor! I tried
all the buttons and nothing fixed. If I squint, move my head up and
down, and flicker my eyes I can almost read the screen - at least enough
to power down NS naturally but talk about eye strain ;)
Is anybody using an ET4000 card with the ET4000 driver? I'm running
NS3.1; if you could tell me the exact manufacturer, etc. so i can buy an
identical card that would be fine by me.
thanks
sec
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which MIDI interfaces are known to work with the NeXT slab?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 00:58:08 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <31nimg$c24@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
References: <Cttwrn.GDw@acsu.buffalo.edu>
I got a list from an FAQ a few years back that seemed pretty
comprehensive. Maybe someone else has it. As I remember it
wasn't so much the interface as it was the cord (had to be custom)
and the port (because of some added electricity).
Good Luck,
maurices
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Mystery Solved: Music CD's in Dec's CD-ROM on a DECpc XL
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 3 Aug 1994 05:00:05 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31n88l$n1g@usenet.rpi.edu>
I recently bought a DECpc XL560. It comes with an internal CD-ROM,
the new one from DEC which is a Toshiba mechanism. I'm using the
Talus driver for the onboard NCR PCI-SCSI card.
When I got my machine, I tried a music CD on it. Worked great.
No problems. It seems that no one else in the world could get this
to work (including friends of mine that bought the same machine at
the same time from the same reseller). I got several email messages
from various people asking me what magic I did to get music CD's
working. I was baffled. It just worked.
Reading the manual that came with the CD-ROM drive, and taking
apart my DECpc (which I was loathe to do -- I'm a software guy
after all), I have found the answer. The following is for what
DEC calls the RRD43 CD-ROM drive.
If you look at the description of the rear panel of the drive (in
the manual), there are seven jumper-able switches called the mode
select headers. The first three set the SCSI address of the drive.
The next one is called (in the manual), the "Mode". I think it's
called something else on the drive itself, but I couldn't quite
read what was there...
Anyway, if that switch is open (ie, there is no jumper), then the
drive is in "DEC PC mode". If there is a jumper there, then it's
in "DEC workstation mode". On *my* machine, there was a jumper
there, so my machine was in workstation mode. On my friend's there
is no jumper, so his CD-ROM drive is in PC mode. I took the jumper
off mine, and it started acting just like his.
How can you tell which mode your CD-ROM drive is in, without ripping
the box apart? If you are in PC mode, then the drive reports itself
as a "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-4101TA 0064" at bootup. When it's in
workstation mode, it reports itself as a DEC something-or-other.
Probably a DEC RRD43-AA or DEC RRD43-AB, but of course I didn't
think to write that down anywhere before I switched from workstation
mode to PC mode.
So, to summarize:
No jumper = PC mode
= drive says it's a "TOSHIBA ..."
= music CD's are trouble (your system tends to
lock up solid if you do anything with CDPlayer).
With jumper = workstation mode
= drive says it's a "DEC ..."
= CDPlayer has no trouble playing music CD's
So far I haven't noticed any other difference between the two modes.
Photo CD's work on both, for instance, (well, after you run XAMode,
they do). Something about PC mode seems to kill NeXTSTEP's handling
of music CD's. I'll have to BugNeXT about that, when I get psyched
to write it up. It's possible that the problem is in the driver,
and that Talus already has some fix for it. And given the following
paragraph, it's also possible the bug is somewhere in the NeXT
music CD support. Maybe it's a bug in the drive itself.
One more interesting fact is that music CD's *can* work with it
even in the PC/Toshiba mode. I have a music CD program of my own,
and that can play music CD's on it just fine. The trick is I have
to be *sure* my program loads the CD, because if the workspace gets
to it, the workspace will try to startup CDPlayer and that's when
the system will lock up.
I have no idea what the difference is between the two modes. I
guess I should search around for an answer to that, but I'm not up
to it tonight. I can't seem to get play3401 to work with it in
either mode, but that might be bugs in play3401 under NS/Intel.
For now I'm leaving it in PC/Toshiba mode, since I can still play
my music CD's and it's a pain to futz around with those jumpers.
DISCLAIMER: I'm just reporting that taking the jumper off the MODE
switch changed the way my drive behaved. If this inspires you to
go mucking around with your CD-ROM drive, that's your responsibilty.
I make no claims that you'll be happy with the results. Remember
that I'm a software person. I have other people change light-bulbs
for me, etc...
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Information on NEC LC 866+
Message-ID: <EN9QBIBB@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 11:00:55 GMT
hi,
I'm looking for some information on the above printer,
especially about compatibility to anything else, as the
user's guide disappeared, and we would like to use it
with a NeXT (original black hardware).
So does it have a working RS232? Is the pin layout
documented somewhere? Are any standard toner cartridges
usable, especially any HP compatible type?
I know I might need some extra cable, some extra dithering
software like Dots and the like. I already connect a HP DeskJet
to a NeXT, so I know this kind of procedure. I just need
info specific to this NEC.
Thanks, Stephan
--
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
/ Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /|
+--------------------------------------------------------------+ |
| <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | +
| <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
From: btvan@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ba Thinh Van)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC 3x CD-ROM drive
Date: 3 Aug 1994 09:05:25 -0400
Organization: Virginia Tech CS Department
Message-ID: <31o4ml$h6t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
In article , <> wrote:
>
>I am looking for a 3X ( or 2X ) CD ROM Drive.
>
>Are there any black ones (Non NeXT) ?
>
>If not, what is the closest to black that I can get with at least 2X
>
>and black hardware compatible.
>
>If not close to black, which is the best 3X bang for buck CDROM Drive?
>
>David
>
>
Has anyone gotten the NEC 3x CD-ROM to work with NeXTstep 3.2 or 3.3?
From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens Hoerup Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP on a Compaq Aero 4/25 ?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:31:02 GMT
Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University
Message-ID: <31o66m$hir@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>
Keywords: PCMCIA
Hi,
I was wondering if it is possible to install NEXTSTEP on my Compaq aero with
8MB RAm and 170 MB harddisk. It uses a PCMCIA Floppydrive.
Thanks in advance
-- Jens
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: SCSI-2 Card for NS/Fip - Suggestions?
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.132233.1689@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: /nfs/kimbark/k4/ajaffray/lib/trn/organization
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 13:22:33 GMT
Hello. In my preperations to get NS/Fip, I realized I needed a new SCSI-2
Controller. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.
Here's my criteria:
I've been looking at the DPT drives, but I'm not sure which ones are SCSI-2
and what thespecifics about each of them are.
I would like it to have drivers for NS/Fip (I won't be buying NS until 3.3
comes out, so it doesn't need to havethe drivers before then)
It should cost under $500
Thanks,
-Larry.
--
|ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes |
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From: mdj2050@u.cc.utah.edu (Matthew D. Jonsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM on Mac?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 08:35:51 -0600
Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center
Message-ID: <31oa07$lpv@u.cc.utah.edu>
does anyone know if i can mount a black CD-ROM on a Mac (PowerMac)?
Thanks in advance.
matt
matt.jonsen@m.cc.utah.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Need Canon contact info
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.144627.15638@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <31lrqf$8lp@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 14:46:27 GMT
Kelly Gieger @ Canon
503-693-3000
Or, the main number (I've had some problems with the 503 number,
you can call this and ask for her).
1-800-349-6007
Faxback for info on the product:
1-800-526-4345
- db
In article <31lrqf$8lp@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu> bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge) writes:
>Please provide a contact re: the new Canon station
>that runs NS.
>
>Thanks,
>bill
>--
>Bill Eldridge
>bill@lifesci.ucla.edu Still confused about bitrates and nitrates.
>310-206-3960
>310-206-3987 (fax)
--
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pour les Quebequois -- Quebec Separatists -- Germany for the Germans -- Hitler
Youth -- She tried to sit on my lap when I was standing up -- Marlowe -- Makes
me want to f*** the both of you. -- Losing net.jerk assuming that I'm a female
From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pioneer DRM-604X (6 disc CD-ROM) under NeXTSTEP?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 16:29:31 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center
Message-ID: <31oglb$cql@convex.cc.uky.edu>
Has anybody successfully operated one of these under NeXTSTEP?
It is recognized fine at boot, all 6 LUNs are found, but that's about as far as
I get...that and a major slowdown when a new magazine is inserted...
--
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
From: ning@benard (Ning Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SEAGATE Elite 10GB HD
Date: 3 Aug 1994 16:39:32 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Message-ID: <31oh84$6kb@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: HD
I am wondering if I can hang a SEAGATE Elite 10.8 GB
unformated, 5.25" -SCSI-2 HD on my NeXTStation.
I am aware that I have to manulaly format the HD in
2GB chunks. Other than that, does anybody know anything
about this HD? Performance? Compatibility? etc etc...
I'd appreciate any advice. And if you can reply to me,
that would be even better.
-Ning
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero)
Subject: Re: Which MIDI interfaces are known to work with the NeXT slab?
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.150322.8934@zion.com>
Sender: david@zion.com
Organization: Zion Software & Consulting
References: <Cttwrn.GDw@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 15:03:22 GMT
I have used a Midi Time Piece (v.1) from Mark of the Uniform. It works
with Mac, PC, Next. I've written a configuration app to work with in on
the NEXT as it does on the Mac.
Booth are for sale (together or seperately)
Anyone using a MTP currently?
David Ferrero
Zion Software & Consulting
david@zion.com
In article <Cttwrn.GDw@acsu.buffalo.edu> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas
Henriques) writes:
> Title says it all. I am trying to find out the midi interfaces
that
> are known to work (well) with the NeXT slab. Your experience would be
very
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Bye.
>
> Ze Tomas
>
From: pln@egret0.Stanford.EDU (Patrick L. Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dead white disk?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 16:51:46 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <31ohv2$2m5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Our 486 with NS 3.2 just died. When it is rebooted it produces the
following message 4 times and hangs:
biosread error 0x1 @ 559296, C:273 H:6, S:0
DOS will boot, but most operations on the disk die with this error:
General failure reading drive C
Does anyone know how badly hosed we are? Is this hardware or software?
Is anything likely to help, short of a complete OS re-installation?
--
* Patrick L. Nolan (415)723-0133 *
* W. W. Hansen Experimental Physics Laboratory (HEPL) *
* Stanford University *
From: ning@benard (Ning Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 64MB RAM for ColorStation
Date: 3 Aug 1994 17:08:10 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Message-ID: <31oitq$7re@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: RAM
I want to know if the 16MB, 32bit, 72pin memory
chips for Mac Quadra machines can be used on
the NeXTColorTurboStation. I want to get it up
to 64MB total. Is this doable? Thanks in advance
for your advice.
-Ning
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Mystery Solved: Music CD's in Dec's CD-ROM on a DECpc XL
Date: 3 Aug 1994 18:47:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31oonl$45v@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <31n88l$n1g@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
> Anyway, if that switch is open (ie, there is no jumper), then the
> drive is in "DEC PC mode". If there is a jumper there, then it's
> in "DEC workstation mode". ...
> So far I haven't noticed any other difference between the two modes.
On our DEC st systems, the Sony CDROM drives have the same sort of mode jumber
that switch them between a Sony and DEC model, just as you describe. On ours,
I noticed that the block size changed significantly between the two modes, I
believe one was 512 bytes and the other 2048 bytes -- but I don't remember
which was which. (I was playing with the mode switch under 3.1 because the
CDROM goofed up on large transfers but changing it didn't help so I put it back
to Sony mode -- the problems cleared up under 3.2)
- Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: SUMMARY: BEST TAPE SOLUTION
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.185738.1243@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 18:57:38 GMT
I only got 1 reaction. Here it is :-)
In article <1994Jul20.205417.1200@rna.nl> you write:
>What is the best (value/price) solution for a tape backup system?
>
>I'll summarize.
Vektron International
2G SCSI DAT for $495 in their summer catalog.
You can get the address from any Computer Shopper ad. (The prices
shown in C.S. are higher than the above mentioned summer price.)
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: ronin@mars.lib.iup.edu (Master Ronin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXt Step PC portables?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 19:45:08 GMT
Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <31os44$35q@jake.esu.edu>
Howdy!
I'm looking for any info regarding Next Step laptop machines.
i.e. Does anyone have one
Does anyone make them
????????
I'll be purchasing a laptop mid-fall and would like to run NeXt Step as a
primary OS. If anyone has info, please leave me email at one of theses
addresses:
ronin@mars.lib.iup.edu
tokash@russell.millersv.edu
Thanks for your help!
John Tokash
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth)
Subject: Micropolis Model 4110
Message-ID: <Ctz6ot.2Ct@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 20:10:05 GMT
A fellow member of the Boston Computer Society is trying to do a low
level format of his Micropolis Model 4110 drive. When his B&W
NeXTstation boots, it sees the floppy (fd0), then the CDROM (sd0), but
the SCSI controller at target 7 freaks when it tries to deal with the
Micropolis drive, repeating about a dozen times:
sc: MESSAGE REJECT RECEIVED
We can boot single user off the floppy (bfd-s), and the low-level
formatting program "sdform" is available, but (1) we don't know what
raw device name to use, (2) we can't look at the man pages for sdform
because "/tmp" is unusable [but I can check that here at work], and
(3) if the SCSI controller doesn't like the Micropolis drive, which is
jumpered to be at SCSI ID 1, what can we do anyway? If you have any
suggestions, please email me at "gsk@marble.com" or call Wayne
Tempelman at (617) 354-2469.
Thanks!
Geoffrey
--
Geoffrey S. Knauth, <gsk@marble.com> CRASH-B, Cambridge BC
Marble Associates, Inc., (617) 487-0050
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: Re: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.212519.25192@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
References: <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 21:25:19 GMT
In article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles
Winthrop Clark) writes:
> After a clean shutdown over the weekend, all my poor old color station
can
> say at boot time is "Waiting for device to come ready . . . "
>
> This is a model with an internal 105M drive, no other SCSI peripherals.
> Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
>
> Charles Clark
we have that problem on our Cube. we have found that to be a reboot
syntax problem. the magic words on our Cube, after a good halt, seem to
be: bsd- nbu=128
good luck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: Cube Monitor and Printer
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.213802.25381@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 21:38:02 GMT
hi gang,
we've been limping along with a dying, i.e. fading, monitor for about a
year. does anyone know the replacement tube for this black and white
beast or a good 3rd party replacement.
similarly, we've had problems with our printer--always paper jams. about
half the paper going through the printer jams. we give up after replacing
entrance rollers, etc. does anyone know the replacement engine for this
beast or a good 3rd party source for a new postscript printer.
i'd prefer a mailed response if its not too much grief just becasue of all
the list traffic.
thanks,
brendan
From: ben@muttley.eecs.berkeley.edu (Ben Haze Bonham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: second internal hard drive in cube?
Date: 3 Aug 1994 23:37:14 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Message-ID: <31p9na$m6g@agate.berkeley.edu>
I remember reading somewhere directions for adding a second internal
SCSI drive in the cube. Would someone please send me a short note
telling me where that information is? (It mentioned getting a
Y-connector for the power, and something else for the SCSI cable,
but that's all I can remember.)
Thanks,
-Ben
--
mail address:
University of CA at Berkeley
Ben Bonham
EECS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Re: NEC 3x CD-ROM drive
Message-ID: <schwettCtzEwM.FGH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <31o4ml$h6t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 23:07:33 GMT
>Has anyone gotten the NEC 3x CD-ROM drive to work with NeXTStep...
Yes, I have the internal model (3xi) and it works perfectly...
(And as for Black Drives, the new TEAC 4x CD-ROM Drives are black... as well
as 1/3rd height!)
Mark
--
schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu
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From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: [Q] how to connect a linotronic or HPIIISI to a Station throught ethernet ?
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.221848.299@precipice.fdn.org>
Keywords: linotronic, HPIIISI, ethernet, NXStation
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 22:18:48 GMT
I d like to connect a NeXTStation to a typesetter (linotronic) throught
ethernet. I think it is possible but I see nothing on the PrintManager (only
serial at 57600 Max). I also heard about a thing called TTYtoTCP. What it is
and is it usefull ?
Same questions for a HPIIISI laser printer.
Does anybody experienced this problem ?
Any help is much appreciated, I ll summarize the answers.
PS : I don t want to use AppleTalk solutions, I want true TCP/IP from the
kernel...
Hugues
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From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D. Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: i56 for Intel
Date: 3 Aug 1994 19:27:40 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9408040024.AA01893@hsun26>
I thought this might be of interest for people looking for sound
solutions for Intel...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: Birgit Loeser <bibi@ilink.de>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 94 13:25:41 +0200
To: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp
Subject: infos on i56
Hi mmalcolm,
Thank you for your interest in our products.
Attached, you will find the information you required on i56 and mix.
Please notice, that i56 and mix for Intel will be available in quarter 4 of 1994.
The prices are as follows: mix for Motorola: $699
mix for Intel: $1099
i56: $550
Best regards,
Birgit Lpser
Informations on i56:
i56.
The NeXT DSP for your NEXTSTEP PC.
i56. Low cost / high performance Motorola DSP56001 based
DSP board for 486 PCs.
. support for NeXTSTEP sound functions (SoundKit)
. low cost audio DSP workstation on a ISA PC card
. 33 MHz, 16.5 MIPS DSP56001 from Motorola
. 56-bit ALU for 336 dB signal range
. 24 KB zero wait-state RAM
. NeXT compatible memory images
. NeXT compatible DSP port
. 4 stereo mini-jack sockets for analog I/O: headphone out, line out,
line in, mic in
. 16-bit stereo AD/DA conversion at standard sampling rates up to 48 kHz
with concurrent input & output, antilias filters, and microphone preamp
. compatible to Motorola's assembler and simulator
High Performance DSP System
i56 is a low cost, complete DSP and audio system for NEXTSTEP PCs based on the
DSP56001, Motorola's fast 56 / 24 bit DSP chip. i56 utilizes a high-speed (33
MHz) version of the DSP56001. The advanced architecture of the DSP56001 and the
56-bit accumulator make it ideal for audio and music applications. This
processor has been designed to maximize throughput in data intensive digital
signal processor applications. Data is naturally partitioned into two separate
memory spaces for graphics and image-processing applications, into coefficient
and data spaces for filtering applications, and into real and imaginary spaces
for performing complex arithmetic. i56 uses a NeXT compatible memory model:
off-chip memory exists in two *images:. This feature allows the efficient
storage of the program and vector or scalar operands. It also keeps i56
compatible with existing software for the NeXT computer, like the NEXTSTEP
Soundkit or your own DSP programs.
Analog and NeXT Compatible Digital I/O
i56 provides digital input/output via the NeXT compatible DSP port, which allows
your PC to interface with many existing DSP peripherals. i56 also provides16-bit
stereo analog version sampling rates of up to 48 kHz. The DSP card has four
sound input and output sockets: stereo microphone input, stereo headphone
output, and line in/out.
Software Support
The i.link DSP and SoundDriver for i56 enables most existing NEXTSTEP DSP
software to run on i56 equipped NEXTSTEP PCs and supports all NEXTSTEP audio
functions.
Specifications:
. 33 MHz DSP56001. 16.5 MIPS peak throughput.
. 56-bit ALU for 336 dB signal range
. 24 KB fast program / data RAM.
. power: 5V, 0.5 A.
. PC interface: 8 I/O ports with configurable I/O base address.
. serial digital I/O via NeXT compatible port.
. 16-bit stereo analog I/O with selectable sampling rates of
5.5125, 6.615, 8.0, 9.6, 11.025, 16.0, 18.9, 22.05, 27.42857,
32.0, 33.075, 37.8, 44.1, or 48 kHz.
. uses one ISA slot and fits in space for half-size boards.
. contact your Motorola sales office for complete DSP56001
specifications.
specifications subject to change
Other available NEXTSTEP products by i.link:
mix - the NEXTSTEP telecommunication system (voice mail, telephone, fax, modem),
both for NeXT computers and 486 PCs.
Informations on mix:
[information deleted]
More information on direct is contained in a separate brochure.
mix runs on NEXTSTEP, both on NeXT computers and 486 PCs. Use on a 486 PC
requires i56, the DSP and sound card for NEXTSTEP PCs. mix is available bundled
with direct, the NEXTSTEP communication manager.
i.link
Kommunikationssysteme GmbH
Nollendorfstrasse 11112
10777 Berlin 7 Germany
phone: +49 30 1 216 20 48
fax: +49 30 1 215 82 74
mix: +49 30 1 215 83 42
email: info@ilink.de
Distribution in North America:
Alembic Systems Internaitonal, Ltd.
phone: 1-800-452 7608
phone: 303-779 6223
fax: 303-799 1435
email: info@alembic.com
14, Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228
Englewood, CO 80112, U.S.A.
mix is a registered trademark of i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, direct, i56,
niCe and ticc are trademarks of i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH. Motorola is
a trademark of Motorola, Inc. NeXT, NEXTSTEP , MusicKit and SoundKit are
trademarks of NeXT, Inc. All other trademarks mentioned belong to their
respective owners.
From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI XLR problem traced, sort of
Date: 4 Aug 1994 01:48:33 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Message-ID: <31phdh$cbm@news1.svc.portal.com>
Well, after tinkering with the ATI sources for a bit, I've discovered
why the XLR will not go into any mode above 800x600 15bpp. Apparently, the
NS drivers only can see 1 meg on the card. I know I have 2 megs; I use
the card in Windows at high resolutions that require 2megs. Does anyone
out there have any clue about this?
I *do* know that when I bypass the memory detection logic in the ATI
driver and tell it the ATi card has 2 megs, the screen goes nuts; as if the
card *di* only have 1 meg. Curiouser and curiouser.
Duane
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki)
Subject: HELP: Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100bada during kernel boot
Message-ID: <1994Aug4.020018.17965@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 02:00:18 GMT
Hi everyone,
Sorry for cross-posting, but this is my third enquiry regarding the above
problem, so before I completely give up I wanted to make sure I exhaust
all the possibilities.
The problem is of intermittent nature, and I can not reproduce it when I
want to, but it always hits at the least expected moment (by the virtue of
Murphy's law). Sometimes during booting or resetting the computer (just
after the kernel begins to load) the drive suddenly makes a quiet knocking
sound and spins down (!), followed by the ROM Monitor displaying the above
exception message. Yesterday I tried resetting four times, always with
the same failure. Then I powered-off the machine and after 5 seconds
powered it back on, which seemed to cure the problem. On other occasions
the system dies on the first power-up.
I have tried all I could think of in terms of troubleshooting (including
reseating the chips, etc.), calls to NeXT and Bell Atlantic and local
service centre, but so far I was unable to locate and/or eliminate the
problem. I would greatly appreciate anyones suggestions as to what the
source of the exception can be, before I pour another $1000 from my
limited resources for the motherboard replacement.
BTW, the system is a black 68040 non-turbo cube, Quantum ProDrive 425S
(brand new), optical, internal floppy, ROM v66, NS3.2 dev.
Thank you in advance.
--
Piotr Twarecki, M.Eng.
B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI-2 Card for NS/Fip - Suggestions?
Date: 4 Aug 1994 09:42:58 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <31q9mi$69p@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1994Aug3.132233.1689@midway.uchicago.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes:
>Hello. In my preperations to get NS/Fip, I realized I needed a new SCSI-2
>Controller. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions.
>Here's my criteria:
> I've been looking at the DPT drives, but I'm not sure which ones are SCSI-2
>and what thespecifics about each of them are.
All of them are fully capable of Fast-SCSI-II.
DPT2021/95 - ISA controller with floppy controller
DPT2021/90 - ISA controller without floppy controller
DPT2022/9x - EISA controller with 68000 chip (9x as above)
DPT2122/9x - EISA controller with 68020 chip
DPT2322/9x - EISA controller with 68040 chip and three SCSI chains
> I would like it to have drivers for NS/Fip (I won't be buying NS until 3.3
>comes out, so it doesn't need to havethe drivers before then)
> It should cost under $500
Then I'd go for the 2022 if you have an EISA board or for the 2021 if you
only have ISA. The DPT2022 is currently the best performing SCSI-II controller
for NS/I (as long as you don't want to afford the 2122 or 2322 :-))
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to print when no WindowServer is running?
Date: 29 Jul 1994 22:17:49 GMT
Organization: - CyberDyne Systems -
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <31bv6d$9an@anduin.subculture>
Keywords: print
I had to disable the Window server (in 3.2 loginwindow.app tries to load
the Audio_reloc and without Monitor this produces errors) but now i can't
print anymore. Is there another way?
- Urs
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Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake,
Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake."
----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hm@nathan.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Pentium & PCI ... best options for DownUnder
Message-ID: <Cu0nnI.FMy@ix.de>
Sender: news@ix.de
Organization: Verlag Heinz Heise GmbH & Co KG
References: <CtLouJ.6n@softpac.com.au>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 15:14:06 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware, Dave THOMAS (dave@softpac.com.au) wrote:
> Could we hear some good news on success with Pentium PCI perhaps?
> We are looking to assemble NeXSTEP capable Pentium PCI hardware in Aussie.
> Most of the USA brand names don't make out it here. What is the best
> combination as to SCSI boards, Drivers, Video cards etc...
BTW is there a Nextstep driver for the NCR53C810 SCSI chip
around?
--
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iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine fax +49 (511) 53 52-378
Helstorfer Str. 7, D-30625 Hannover office: hm@ix.de
P.O. Box 61 04 07, D-30604 Hannover home: hm@seneca.ix.de
Boston, n.:
Ludwig van Beethoven being jeered by 50,000 sports fans for
finishing second in the Irish jig competition.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: HP DAT 35480, Jumper settings
Message-ID: <1994Aug3.192340.609@aplki.toppoint.de>
Keywords: DAT, HP35480, SCSI
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 94 19:23:40 GMT
The manual that comes with this drive is a joke ...
What do jumpers 3...8 mean?
What is your favorite setup for NEXTSTEP (Motorola/Intel)?
Thanks,
A. Ploeger
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Subject: Re: 2.88MB floppy support on NS3.2FIP????
Message-ID: <1994Aug04.184916.8743@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 94 18:49:16 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO
References: <1994Jul26.164959.26609@phx.mcd.mot.com> <cameron1-260794144049@transient.uoregon.edu>
Distribution: usa
In article <cameron1-260794144049@transient.uoregon.edu>,
shem <cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>In article <1994Jul26.164959.26609@phx.mcd.mot.com>, jeffh@phx.mcd.mot.com
>(Jeff Huff(summer student)) wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to use a highcapacity floppy controller and a teac 2.88MB
>> floppy drive on NS3.2FIP?? Will NS3.2FIP format 2.88MB floppy disks to
>> transport files from Black hardware to White hardware??
>>
>i've tried using a 2.88 drive on my dell- works cool in windows, but ns
>wouldn't recognize it.
>--
>
>cameron hunziker affiliated with no one cameron1@oregon.uoregon.edu
>
>Caddy went to Winehouse and wrote a piece of farce.
>Blotty words for Dublin.
>jj
believe that Canon is writing the drivers for this. When I spoke to them
at expo they indicated that in the near future they would have 2.88MB
floppy drives. Now if they could get ones that did autosensing!
-Mont
From: t.woo@dstc.edu.au(Tak Woo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Benchmark results for Mach 64 and Viper
Date: 5 Aug 1994 17:44:43 GMT
Organization: dstc
Sender: tkwoo@spider.it.Bond.edu.au (Tak Woo)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31ttqb$ahc@surf.kowande.Bond.edu.au>
On Wed, 3 Aug 1994, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> In article <31olio$qa2@surf.kowande.Bond.edu.au> you wrote:
>
> : For those who are interested, here are the benchmarks for
> : ATI Mach 64 and Diamond Viper on the same Pentinum 66Mhz PCI Box.
> : Both cards have 2Mb of VRAM running at 1024x768 16bit color. The ATI
> : is running on the beta version of the Talus driver, therefore the
> : final version might be faster.
>
> could you perhaps post how much main memory you machine has, and could
> you try the 32bit mode with the mach64 (I think it's only 800x600 with 4MB,
> but nevertheless, I expect it to be quite a lot faster than 16bit).
>
> thanks,
>
> Gregor
>
> --
> | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT |
> | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
> | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
> | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
It is a home brew machine and here are the machine details:
Asus PCI motherboard w pentinum 66Mhz CPU
32 Mb Ram
Adaptec 1542B with firmware upgrade
Toshiba 1.2GB SCSI drive
NEC CDR 74
WD 210Mb IDE drive
Unknown brand IDE/IO
ProAudio Spectum 16
Because the Mach 64 card I have only have 2Mb of VRam, I cannot run
it at 32 bit Mode.
BTW I still cannot get my PAS16 to work yet, any config tips??
Regards,
Tak
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CRC for Distributed Systems Technology
Bond University Phone: +61 (0)75 953301
Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA Fax : +61 (0)75 915609
WWW: http://dstc.Bond.edu.au:91776/tkwoo/tkwoo.html
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From: David@WhiteLight.com (David File)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q[ Anyone using NS/FIP on a P90?
Date: 4 Aug 1994 15:07:44 -0700
Organization: WhiteLight Systems, Inc.
Sender: david@whitelight.com
Message-ID: <31rorg$59a@wl10.whitelight.com>
Keywords: pentium
Greetings!
Anyone using NS/FIP on a Pentium-90 doing heavy duty NFS or computations
(compiles) on a clone or name-brand system? Any stability problems?
Thanks!
--
David R. File
WhiteLight Systems, Inc.
David@WhiteLight.com [NeXTmail Accepted]
From: bisselt@marley.gb.swissbank.com (Timothy Bissell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep.
Date: 04 Aug 1994 12:07:35 GMT
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation
Message-ID: <BISSELT.94Aug4130735@marley.gb.swissbank.com>
References: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com>
To: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
In-reply-to: Greg_Anderson@afs.com's message of Thu, 28 Jul 1994 16:16:21 GMT
<Greg_Anderson@afs.com> writes:
>Since I haven't complained all month, and it's getting near the end 8^),
>I'll take this opportunity to climb on the soapbox and complain about the
>lack of a 3.3 Developer release, which means that the only triple-FAT
>compiler will be in the HP release...........
>............ This was a short-sighted move, and I think it violates the
>spirit of what FAT technology is supposed to represent.
Whilst I agree with your sentiments, NeXT will be releasing the
sources to their modified gcc/gas on the HP developer CD-ROM.
Some public-hearted citizen could compile up these sources to produce
three way compilers for i386 and m68k, and stick'em on an FTP site.
this means that with a bit of fiddling developers could produce
obese binaries even with 3.2 Developer systems.
--
tim
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need Canon contact info
Date: 5 Aug 1994 00:54:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31s2js$lc2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <31n5up$r24@tuba.cit.cornell.edu>
In article <31n5up$r24@tuba.cit.cornell.edu> yl20@crux1.cit.cornell.edu
(Yafei Li) writes:
> Kelly is pretty fluent with the list of features for each configuration
> of the object.station, but is not very helpful otherwise. She faxed me
the
> academic prices that are higher than regular prices. When I called her
again,
> she promised to check them but never get back to me. I somehow got the
> feeling that they are not terribly enthusiatic about selling these NeXT
> stations.
She also quoted me an astronomically high student price of $4200 for a
Canon machine with no screen, no NextStep, a 500 MB drive and 16 MB RAM.
Ridiculous.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 64MB RAM for ColorStation
Date: 5 Aug 1994 00:55:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31s2ll$lc7@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <31oitq$7re@newshost.lanl.gov>
In article <31oitq$7re@newshost.lanl.gov> ning@benard (Ning Li) writes:
>
> I want to know if the 16MB, 32bit, 72pin memory
> chips for Mac Quadra machines can be used on
> the NeXTColorTurboStation. I want to get it up
> to 64MB total. Is this doable? Thanks in advance
> for your advice.
Yes.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need Talus' new email
Date: 5 Aug 1994 02:46:38 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <31s96e$6r6@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1994Aug1.204253.15519@free.fdn.org>
All the old addresses seem to bounce.
Could someone from Talus please send me the correct destination?
Thanks,
/ivo
From: payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM inop
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 00:00:13
Organization: System Technology, Inc.
Message-ID: <payne440.25.000000F2@utw.com>
I am having the worst time hooking up an NEC CDR-25 CD-ROM to my 'Cube. It's
set at ID 5, H/D is at 4, no other scsi devices. I've tried it with internal
termination on and with it off plus an external terminator. Anyone who knows
the secret password for getting this drive to work so I can upgrade NS will
have my everlasting and timeless professioanl admiration.
That, two dimes and a nickle and you'll have a quarter, eh?
Carl
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI tape - does it work ?
Date: 5 Aug 1994 16:32:53 GMT
Organization: University of York, Computing Service, UK
Message-ID: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk>
I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF
controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive.
I tried the scsi tape driver and though most of the "mt" commands
seem to be o.k. and it does find the drive - it doesn't
actually read (or write) the tape. Is the problem likely to be the
driver, the tape drive or both. Do SCSI tapes usually work under
NS/FIP or do people ahve trouble with them.
All help much appreciated...
-pete.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan)
Subject: ASUS motherboards and NeXtstep...
Message-ID: <1994Aug4.231537.19901@ximage.com>
Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout)
Organization: XImage Corp.
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 23:15:37 GMT
Hi:
Would like to know, if anyone has NeXTstep running on ASUS SP3G based
machine...It has IDE and SCI (NCR chip) built in...and was wondering if
the SCSI would work...or would have to add a adaptec or some such
card...
and does the IDE on the motherboard work...
Thanks
jag
From: love@cog.brown.edu (Bradley C. Love)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How much is this thing worth?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 5 Aug 1994 17:52:07 GMT
Organization: Brown U.
Message-ID: <love-050894135313@puma.cog.brown.edu>
I have recently come into possession of a NeXT.
Could someone tell me how much my NeXT is worth on the used market?
330MB hard drive
250MB Optical drive
25MHz 68030
25MHZ DSP
25MHz FPP
17 inch monitor
Thanks a lot,
Brad Love
love@columbo.cog.brown.edu
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90
Date: 5 Aug 1994 20:19:46 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <31u6t2$pnt@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hi,
when I tried to install NS-FIP on my Plato P5-90 machine with a
NCR53C810 SCSI controller card in one of the PCI slots, I got this
message:
Resetting SCSI Bus ...
Copyright (c) 1994 Talus ...
NCR53C810/820/825 SCSI Adapter device driver V 2.05 rev 087
Chip rev .01
NCR53C810: Resetting SCSI bus ...
Registering sc0
sd0: IBM OEM 0662S12 2 23
Registering at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0
Registering sd0a
sd0: No Valid Disk Label
sd0: Device Block Size 512 byte
sd0 Device Capacity 1003 MB
sd1 SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 2.6a
NCR53C810 ERROR: phase mismatch not during the data xfer!
NCR DMA ERROR ISTAT 9, DSTAT 81 DCMD 1b DBC 1b000000, DSPS 0
NCR timeout occured (8 times, about every 5-10 sec)
Registering: sd1a at Target 3 LUN 0 at sc0
Registering: sd1a
NCR timeout occured
sd1: wating for drive to come ready
NCR timeout occured
ad infinitum.
The NCR card and driver are from Talus. The original black NeXT
CD-ROM drive was connected to the controller. The HD is an IBM GB
drive.
The controller works fine under DOS and Windows, though I don't know,
whether the CD-ROM would be recognized here.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks in advance,
Lars
--
Lars Konieczny
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de
From: rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Windows/Dos driver for NeXT color printer?
Date: 5 Aug 1994 23:24:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Message-ID: <31uho4$mgn@news.bu.edu>
Does anyone know of the existance of a Windows/Dos driver for the NeXT
color printer? If so, I would appreciate information on where to get such a
driver.
Thanks in advance.
--
Ray Gasser
rayg@cs.bu.edu
Department of Computer Science Boston University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Does NS/HP support multiple monitors?
Message-ID: <bchin.776097796@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 14:43:16 GMT
The HP 712 line has secondary monitor support. Does NEXTSTEP/HP
take advantage of this?
Additionally, does NEXTSTEP/HP support the optional token ring
interface?
Thanks!
..Bill
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: WANTED: list/overview of apps planned for HP NeXTStep.
Message-ID: <1994Aug6.031035.2564@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <30ooc6$h80@alf.uib.no> <1994Jul28.161621.1913@afs.com> <BISSELT.94Aug4130735@marley.gb.swissbank.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 03:10:35 GMT
In article <BISSELT.94Aug4130735@marley.gb.swissbank.com> bisselt@marley.gb.swissbank.com (Timothy Bissell) writes:
>Whilst I agree with your sentiments, NeXT will be releasing the
>sources to their modified gcc/gas on the HP developer CD-ROM.
>Some public-hearted citizen could compile up these sources to produce
>three way compilers for i386 and m68k, and stick'em on an FTP site.
>this means that with a bit of fiddling developers could produce
>obese binaries even with 3.2 Developer systems.
They won't be getting very far without the libraries.
- db
--
Clearly I remember picking on the boy; he seemed a harmless little f***. But
we unleashed a lion; gnashed his teeth and bit the recess lady's breast. How
can I forget. Then he hit me with a surprise left...
-- Pearl Jam, "Jeremy" (Or, how we create monsters. It's our responsibility.)
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC 3x CD-ROM drive
Date: 6 Aug 1994 04:59:33 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <31v5bl$mgd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <31o4ml$h6t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>
btvan@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ba Thinh Van) writes:
>Has anyone gotten the NEC 3x CD-ROM to work with NeXTstep 3.2 or 3.3?
The NEC 3x works fine as an external to a NeXTStation.
--
David Lemson
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: i56 for Intel
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 22:56:15 -0800
Organization: University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <sandrac-050894225615@port61.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
References: <9408040024.AA01893@hsun26>
In article <9408040024.AA01893@hsun26>, mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (Malcolm D.
Crawford) wrote:
> I thought this might be of interest for people looking for sound
> solutions for Intel...
>
> Have fun,
>
> mmalcolm.
>
The only problem is ilink says a different time every month... They have
got to be the one of the worst shippers of a product since Rosebase and
Pages...
If only someone else had a product that used the i56...
smiles
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Need Canon contact info
Message-ID: <1994Aug6.032651.3128@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <31n5up$r24@tuba.cit.cornell.edu> <31s2js$lc2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 03:26:51 GMT
In article <31s2js$lc2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu writes:
>
>She also quoted me an astronomically high student price of $4200 for a
>Canon machine with no screen, no NextStep, a 500 MB drive and 16 MB RAM.
>Ridiculous.
Of course, you can save a few hundred bucks, and get a machine that
hangs/crashes/doesn't work right and never will. You can also get (in
the very same deal) two weeks on the floor/workbench pulling cards and
switching RAM trying to figure out why your machine
crashes/hangs/doesn't work right and never will.
You also get to log into the Intel BBS and try to find and download
the right BIOS because the one you have is buggy and/or doesn't
recognize your cards. You have to pray you have another system on hand
to do this, because if your machine doesn't recognize your SCSI card,
you're not going to be using it to log into the BBS (you better have a
modem too).
Then, after all this, you can conclude that an integrated system would
have been a much better investment, and you can sit back and try to be
statisfied with one window server death a day.
Believe me, I've been there. I bought three Pentium machines from
two different vendors. I paid about $4,000 for each of them with
decent configs (32M RAM, PCI SCSI, etc). I then had to send back
three keyboards, two motherboards, one SCSI card, and one monitor.
Of the two motherboards I got back, one doesn't work right and the
other says "16 MHz" on the little green LED even though it's running
at 90MHz.
Face it, you pay bargain-bin prices, you get bargain-bin machines.
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. You get what you pay
for.
I'm assuming that the Canon is better than average because it's
an integrated machine that WAS NOT built like other PCs (on
price-point being the single most important feature), and perhaps
because there was some consultation with NeXT during its design.
I don't know for sure yet, because I don't trust any hardware
until I've got it running in my office and I know it doesn't
crash, but I give it a couple more points than this off-the-shelf
crapola the markeplace eats up.
Note that buying a machine from people that say "We know NEXTSTEP"
doesn't mean that you're going to get a machine that works right.
Be damn sure that the people you buy from will give you a 30 day
no-questions-asked money back guarantee. There's nothing more
frustrating than dealing with vendors saying "it's your RAM that's
at fault. Try changing it." when you know it probably IS at fault
because the case they sent you puts the ^*&(*^% RAM an inch away
from the SCSI disk which is running at about 500 degrees.
If you go bargain-bin, you *can* win, but chances are that you'll
lose. If you do this, make sure you have a 30 day money back
guarantee. Make sure.
We have 4 PCs, and only one works without any problems (maybe because
it's in use 3 days out of the week).
- db
--
Clearly I remember picking on the boy; he seemed a harmless little f***. But
we unleashed a lion; gnashed his teeth and bit the recess lady's breast. How
can I forget. Then he hit me with a surprise left...
-- Pearl Jam, "Jeremy" (Or, how we create monsters. It's our responsibility.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90
Message-ID: <Cu3yvE.2JA@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <31u6t2$pnt@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 10:09:14 GMT
In article <31u6t2$pnt@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <31u6t2$pnt@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
you wrote:
> Hi,
>
[...]
> NCR timeout occured
> sd1: wating for drive to come ready
> NCR timeout occured
> ad infinitum.
>
> The NCR card and driver are from Talus. The original black NeXT
> CD-ROM drive was connected to the controller. The HD is an IBM GB
> drive.
The Talus-Driver does _not_ work with the Sony CDU541. Use another
CD_ROM drive. It's hard to believe but true :-(
Cheers,
Axel
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC 3x CD-ROM drive
Date: 6 Aug 1994 08:55:25 -0400
Organization: Southgate Internet Host
Message-ID: <32017t$2fb@sgate.com>
References: <31o4ml$h6t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> <31v5bl$mgd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <31v5bl$mgd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes:
>btvan@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ba Thinh Van) writes:
>>Has anyone gotten the NEC 3x CD-ROM to work with NeXTstep 3.2 or 3.3?
>The NEC 3x works fine as an external to a NeXTStation.
The NEC 3xp did NOT work as an external to a NeXTstation (mono, bought back in
1990). Someone (forget who) confirmed that they had a ROM revision problem
which caused this failure. I wasn't willing to wait for NEC to fix their
problem so I returned it for a refund.
>David Lemson
Could be that the ones you buy now work (I bought it about ... hmm .. .less
than two months ago), I don't know. But the moral of *this* story is either
verify it works or make sure you can return it for a refund.
Mike
From: John David Adamski <jadamski@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: can't get into single user mode in ROM Monitor
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 94 11:41:11 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <pc7S0IX.jadamski@delphi.com>
-I purchased a DEMO NeXTstation color from the then local sales office
-right before NeXT closed the Michigan offices. Good price, good
-machine. Except for one item, I can't get in single user mode in
-the ROM Monitor. Had a few people at NeXT try a few things, but then
-the Hardware people got canned.
-
-Thought I would try again to see if I can get this problem solved.
-If I power on the box and do the Command~ thing, I get into the
-ROM Monitor okay: here is what I get:
CPU MC68040 25MHz, memory 100ns
Backplane slot #0
Ethernet address: 0:0:f:1:8:2f
Memory size 32MB
NeXT>
-then what ever I try to get into single user mode, or boot from CDROM
-I get the following:
------------------------------screen clears------------------------------
Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374
-
-This is what I get, what's wrong???
-
-The ROM Monitor says its 2.5 v 66
-I was thinking maybe I got a sick ROM that needs replacing? I dod not -know.
-all sugestions welcomed, before I call BellAlatic $$Help$$
_
From: oscara@aol.com (OscarA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NextStep V3.3 Hardware support
Date: 6 Aug 1994 11:34:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <320aha$as1@search01.news.aol.com>
Does anyone know if NeXTStep V3.3 will support:
1. 2.88mb Floppy diskette drives?
2. More than 2 serial COM ports (IE: COM3, COM4)?
3. QIC-80 floppy tape drives?
Oscar S. Alonso
oscara@aol.com
From: sccoe@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Rowland Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Salvaging this NeXT?
Date: 6 Aug 1994 16:22:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <320dbo$d95@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I've got a hold of an ancient NeXT cube with the old greyscale monitor &
all. It has an optical disk, but I can't boot off of that. I believe
the internal 40 meg harddrive is screwed up, because I can't get the
thing to boot. When I power up the machine all I get is a ROM thingee
with about 10 commands. One of them is "b" for boot....
Okay, so now I hook up an NEC 3xp external, portable, triple-speed CD-ROM
drive to the NeXT. I type "b sd" for boot off of SCSI, and then get a
error - termination or something.
Is it possible to boot off an external CD-Drive with NeXTStep on CD?
If so, how? If not, can I salvage this system and get it to work. It
has no internal floppy or CD drive, only a funky, loud optical drive.
Final questions: If the NeXT is hopeless or expensive to get working
(how much does good software cost?), I want to strip the thing down. What
type of SIMMs does it use? Can I use the Optical drive on another system?
Is there any adapter to use the monitor as MVGA or something?
Thanks for your help!
From: avery@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Avery Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXt Step PC portables?
Date: 6 Aug 1994 18:45:04 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <320lng$a22@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <31os44$35q@jake.esu.edu>
In article <31os44$35q@jake.esu.edu> ronin@mars.lib.iup.edu (Master Ronin)
writes:
> Howdy!
> I'm looking for any info regarding Next Step laptop machines.
> i.e. Does anyone have one
> Does anyone make them
> ????????
> I'll be purchasing a laptop mid-fall and would like to run NeXt Step as a
> primary OS. If anyone has info, please leave me email at one of theses
> addresses:
> ronin@mars.lib.iup.edu
> tokash@russell.millersv.edu
> Thanks for your help!
> John Tokash
Advance 2000 had an interesting notebook at NeXTWorld Expo.
1-800-238-2621
Avery Wang avery@ccrma.stanford.edu
CCRMA (Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics)
660 Lomita Dr. Fax: +1 (415) 723-8468
Stanford, CA 94305 Tel: +1 (415) 364-5002
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90
Date: 06 Aug 1994 19:32:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Aug6123210@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
References: <31u6t2$pnt@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> <Cu3yvE.2JA@belly.in-berlin.de>
In-reply-to: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de's message of Sat, 6 Aug 1994 10:09:14 GMT
In article <Cu3yvE.2JA@belly.in-berlin.de> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
The Talus-Driver does _not_ work with the Sony CDU541. Use another
CD_ROM drive. It's hard to believe but true :-(
This doesn't mean that it is impossible to use the "NeXT-CD" with
NS/FIP, does it?
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help: keyboard not recognized!
Date: 6 Aug 1994 19:36:51 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <320ooj$73s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Hi,
after I have successfully installed NS-FIP, my keyboard is not
recognized from within NS. I tried it with a Fujitsu and with a
Cherry keyboard, but no response.
My machine has a Plato P5-90 motherboard. Does anybody know a
solution?
Thanks,
Lars
--
Lars Konieczny
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de
From: opus@zwicky.unm.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sager track ball blues
Date: 6 Aug 1994 21:59:13 GMT
Organization: Institute for Astrophysics, University of New Mexico, Abq.
Message-ID: <32113h$bnj@lynx.unm.edu>
Summary: Doesn't seem to work well. Not at all actually.
Keywords: Trackball, no workie, oh yah, and the display, oh and sound 8)
Howdie,
I've been working with a Sager 3500 (I believe that's the model number)
for the past few weeks, trying to get nextstep fully functional on it.
Almost everything is working superbly, except for two things. I've been
unable to get the trackball working with nextstep. It does work under
ms windows, so I do not believe that it is a hardware problem.
I've been told that there were people out there that have been using
Sager laptops as nextstep machines and that they worked quite well, so
if anyone out there with a Sager could slide some pointers over to me
I'd be most appreciative.
Also, this particular model of Sager comes with a local bus Cirrus CL-GD6440
VGA controller, I haven't found any information about drivers for it,
and I've yet to be able to get the Cirrus drivers to go with this one.
However, the standard VGA drivers seem to work well.
And last, has anyone had any luck with getting any of the sound drivers
to work with Sager's builtin sound device?
Thanks for any (I mean any) information that I can glean out of my e-mail.
- Colby
--
\ | / Colby Kraybill - University of New Mexico - I.F.A. - H.E.P
,-, opus@unm.edu, UNMB::OPUS
-- -- My onions are my own.
From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Date: 4 Aug 1994 14:26:27 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31qtqj$rvp@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Keywords: comments
I am thinking about purchasing a Micron P90 system in about 2 to 3 weeks and I would appreciate any
comments regarding Micron computers, service, reliability, and any hardware I list below:
Tower Configuration
90 MHz Pentium
512K cache
32 Meg RAM
1.0 GB Hard Drive
21" Monitor: NEC 6FGp or Nanao T660i
NEC 3xi CD-ROM drive
Not sure about the following as far as hardware and/or availible drivers:
Fast-SCSI 2 PCI card
Sound card w/ DSP
ATI Turbo Graphics 64-bit w/ 4Meg VRAM
Again any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Also, I need the address and phone number for TALUS. I hear they are a good source for drivers and
hardware.
Thanks IN Advance,
Michael email: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com
From: frank@miranda.tue.schwaben.de (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Good old NeXT OD: Insufficent Laser Power?
Date: 6 Aug 1994 18:25:30 GMT
Organization: Privat Internet site in Tuebingen/Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <320kiq$4bn@hades.tue.schwaben.de>
Keywords: OD CUBE
For years my NeXT Cube and the OD never showed any problems.
Yesterday I experienced a very strange error message after
writing quite a lot small files to my OD.
od0a: re-spin: read (insufficent laser power) :0:0
The OD did spin down, up again and after a few seconds the
same...
As I shutdowned the Cube, let it cool down, everything was fine
again.
What has happend?
I must add that at the moment the temperature here in Germany is very hot
(up to +38 Celsius). Could I put the blame on the weather or should I
clean the OD?
- Frank
--
* Frank Siegert | frank@miranda.tue.schwaben.de *
* NeXT, IBM, HP | Plain ascii mail only, please *
* End Of File Is A State Of Mind, Not A Character *
From: opus@zwicky.unm.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Building NS onto a laptop
Date: 6 Aug 1994 23:39:57 GMT
Organization: Institute for Astrophysics, University of New Mexico, Abq.
Message-ID: <32170d$io4@lynx.unm.edu>
References: <Jul.27.17.17.24.1994.4273@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Jul.27.17.17.24.1994.4273@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>Hi All,
> Im planning on getting a laptop to run NS on. I think I found a nice
>one (even though the tech support people are a little snotty :). Its an Acom
>DX2/66, 16bit sound, 16meg RAM(32max), 540meg IDE drive, PCMIA III, PowerBook
>like palm rest and trackball position, dual-scan color, 1megVRAM VLB video.
>All for $3050 (at 1 800 898-2665).
>
> The catch is I'm not sure I can easily install NS onto it... I thought
>I would just be able to pop out the 2.5" IDE drive, and plug it into my desktop
>computer, and do a build disk from my other hard drive. But the tech support
>people say that 2.5" drives wont plug into regular IDE controllers; that 2.5"
>drives need special cables. They said that adapters used to exist. Anyone
>know where I can get such an adapter?
>
That company's techsupport is apparently clueless. You can get the special
adaptor to go from a regular IDE connector to a 2.5" IDE drive connector
at any local computer store (well, with the possible exception of radio shack).
> So, does anyone know a good way of installing NS onto one of these 2.5"
>IDE hard drives? I dont want to get a docking station and a SCSI controller
>card because I would never again use them with the portable. I already have
>a desktop Intel system with a SCSI controller, CDROM, E-net card etc.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated. Perhaps there is some way of
>building a disk over E-net? Are there any PCMIA E-net cards supported by NS?
>
Currently this does not exist. However, 3.3 is supposed to come with it.
We installed NS onto a Sager by just taking out it's 2.5" drive and hooking
it up to a PC that had an Adaptec 1542CF and an IDE controller.
- Colby
--
\ | / Colby Kraybill - University of New Mexico - I.F.A. - H.E.P
,-, opus@unm.edu, UNMB::OPUS
-- -- My onions are my own.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need new email address of Talus
Date: 7 Aug 1994 01:22:24 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <321d0g$nq8@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <31s96e$6r6@news.mic.ucla.edu>
ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
> All the old addresses seem to bounce.
>
> Could someone from Talus please send me the correct destination?
I remember someone from Talus posting the new address, and I could
have sworn I saved it away. Unfortunately I didn't. Did anyone
else save it? I'm pretty sure it was posted in this newsgroup,
maybe more than once, sometime between the NeXTSTEP Expo and now.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90
Message-ID: <1994Aug7.035447.27963@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <31u6t2$pnt@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 03:54:47 GMT
In article <31u6t2$pnt@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
>Hi,
>
>NCR53C810 ERROR: phase mismatch not during the data xfer!
>NCR DMA ERROR ISTAT 9, DSTAT 81 DCMD 1b DBC 1b000000, DSPS 0
>NCR timeout occured (8 times, about every 5-10 sec)
>Registering: sd1a at Target 3 LUN 0 at sc0
Ah ha! The NCR Timeout problem.
I've had this problem twice. I solved it the first time by pitching
my controller and getting a new one. The second time it came up
with a new controller, when I plugged in my parallel ports and
serial ports for the first time.
This is on the Intel Premiere motherboard. I unplugged the serial
and parallel ports and it worked fine.
My advice to you:
1) move the PCI boards around. Sometimes this helps.
2) Try unplugging the serial and parallel ports. I don't know how this
could help, but it appears to have done the trick for me.
Pray that the PCI support in NS 3.3 is good. Remember that 3.2 does
not correctly support PCI making driver writer's tasks pretty hard.
Flakiness could happen.
If all else fails, return your motherboard and/or SCSI controller.
- db
--
Clearly I remember picking on the boy; he seemed a harmless little f***. But
we unleashed a lion; gnashed his teeth and bit the recess lady's breast. How
can I forget. Then he hit me with a surprise left...
-- Pearl Jam, "Jeremy" (Or, how we create monsters. It's our responsibility.)
From: kirkp@pacifier.com (Kirk Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MegaPixel display for a PC???
Date: 7 Aug 1994 07:29:38 GMT
Organization: Pacifier BBS, Vancouver, Wa. ((206) 693-0325)
Message-ID: <3222h2$eho@news.pacifier.com>
Recently, while shopping in an electronics/computer surplus store,
I found an old NeXT Cube MegaPixel display. It was the original (17"?) one.
Since I can get it for cheap, I was wondering if I can convert it from the
NeXT Cube plug to a VGA type plug. I know that the plug carries power and
sound in addition to the video signal, I am just wondering if I could make an
adapter easily, or are the formats too dissimilar?
Kirk Petersen
kirkp@pacifier.com
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help: keyboard not recognized!
Date: 7 Aug 1994 11:22:36 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <320ooj$73s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
In article <320ooj$73s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
> Hi,
>
> after I have successfully installed NS-FIP, my keyboard is not
> recognized from within NS. I tried it with a Fujitsu and with a
> Cherry keyboard, but no response.
>
> My machine has a Plato P5-90 motherboard. Does anybody know a
> solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lars
I should have added that I already have changed the keyboard type to
102-keys . I also tried to boot with reduced processor speed, with no
success, however. I'm totally cueless.
Does anybody have an idea?
Thanks in advance,
Lars
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Date: 07 Aug 1994 21:25:00 +0200
From: tauber@goofy.muc.de (Karl Tauber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Message-ID: <5UO0HqZZTWB@goofy.muc.de>
Subject: #9 GXE L12 PCI with NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
Does the #9 GXE L12 PCI graphics adapter work with the VL-Bus driver of
NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2?
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From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian)
Subject: Help : GateWay_2000 display
Message-ID: <1994Aug7.172134.17689@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 17:21:34 GMT
Hi,
We have installed NeXTStep 3.2 on a Gateway 2000 computer. This system
is equipped with an ATI Ultra Pro (plus) with 2 megabytes of video DRAM
We have the following problem : The best display we could get when
running NeXTStep is 800 x 600 in color and 1024 x 768 in BW. There is no
problem getting a better display (for eg:1024 x 768 in color) when
working with windows.
I recently read the bugs associated with the 3.2 version ATI Ultra Pro
display adapter which said the following
The maximum resolution the NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 ATI Ultra Pro driver
supports with the XLR is 800 x 600 in 16 bit color and 1120 x 832 in 8 bit
grayscale.
Is there any way we can get around this problem ? or we just have to live
with the 800 x 600 resolution. Any suggestions ?
Thanks
Balu, T
From: oscara@aol.com (OscarA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStep V3.2 & Fax
Date: 7 Aug 1994 16:30:05 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <323g8d$j9a@search01.news.aol.com>
Has anyone manage to get NeXT to work with a Intel 144i Faxmodem? I am
unable to send or recieve a fax, and apears that NeXTStep is unable to
handle new style fax modem (Class 1 or 2).
Oscar S. Alonso
oscar@aol.com
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Building NS onto a laptop
Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:13:20 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <324etg$296v@argo.unm.edu>
References: <Jul.27.17.17.24.1994.4273@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Jul.27.17.17.24.1994.4273@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
John Kheit <kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>Hi All,
> Im planning on getting a laptop to run NS on. I think I found a nice
>one (even though the tech support people are a little snotty :). Its an Acom
>DX2/66, 16bit sound, 16meg RAM(32max), 540meg IDE drive, PCMIA III, PowerBook
>like palm rest and trackball position, dual-scan color, 1megVRAM VLB video.
>All for $3050 (at 1 800 898-2665).
>
> The catch is I'm not sure I can easily install NS onto it... I thought
>I would just be able to pop out the 2.5" IDE drive, and plug it into my desktop
>computer, and do a build disk from my other hard drive. But the tech support
>people say that 2.5" drives wont plug into regular IDE controllers; that 2.5"
>drives need special cables. They said that adapters used to exist. Anyone
>know where I can get such an adapter?
>
> So, does anyone know a good way of installing NS onto one of these 2.5"
>IDE hard drives? I dont want to get a docking station and a SCSI controller
>card because I would never again use them with the portable. I already have
>a desktop Intel system with a SCSI controller, CDROM, E-net card etc.
(belated crunch)
It's definitely possible, because we just did it on a Sager 7500 (about $3300
with 20 megs of RAM, 520 meg IBM hard drive and DX4/100). Any knowledgeable
clone shop should have the necessary adapter. Ours cost $15.00 with a bracket
locally, and was definitely overpriced. The build was pretty straightforward
from there, except that I discovered that it would only work with 1 hard drive
installed. For some reason I could only install the basic OS at first, too,
then I had to install the other packages manually. I'm sure none of that had
to do with using a 2.5" hard drive, by the way...
We love the Sager, with a couple of caveats. First, as denoted in another
post, we've got the "Sager trackball blues." Our trackball doesn't seem to
work, despite that it works in DOS and is supposed to be straight serial MS
compatible. Second, we'd love to have the Cirrus 7440 (I think) display
drivers that would allow us to use the machine in full resolution. The
trackball's definitely the most agonizing concern. We feel silly having to
plug a mouse into a laptop, especially considering that we have to use the
computer soon for data acquisition.
So there you have it! Good luck!
Dave
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Installing NEXTSTEP on the second IDE drive: how to do that?
Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:20:56 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <324fbo$2otj@argo.unm.edu>
References: <1994Jul29.092029.3481@imag.fr>
In article <1994Jul29.092029.3481@imag.fr>,
Yves Arrouye <arrouye@petole.imag.fr> wrote:
>The subject says it: I would like to install NEXTSTEP on the 2nd IDE drive of
>my system (the first drive already has DOS and Linux).
> I tried to install yesterday but after the installation procedure
>reboots the machine after the formatting of the disk, I am not able to boot
>on the second drive instead. Is there a solution to that? Of course I would
>like to be able to choose my system at boot time, too.
Yves, the most simple solution is to swap the drives and make drive 0 a DOS
and NeXTStep drive. Put a 1 meg DOS partition on it when NeXTStep prompts you
about partitioning, and when you boot in DOS it will see the other drive. You
won't have to touch your other drive at all.
Whups, I just noticed that you're running Linux, too. Huh. I've seen public
domain programs that will allow you to boot by partition. I'll try to dig one
up and post the name to the net if I can find it. Hope that information does
SOME good...
Dave
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sager track ball blues
Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:28:49 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <324fqh$1bok@argo.unm.edu>
References: <32113h$bnj@lynx.unm.edu>
Keywords: Trackball, no workie, oh yah, and the display, oh and sound 8)
In article <32113h$bnj@lynx.unm.edu>, <opus@zwicky.unm.edu> wrote:
>
>Howdie,
>
>I've been working with a Sager 3500 (I believe that's the model number)
>for the past few weeks, trying to get nextstep fully functional on it.
>Almost everything is working superbly, except for two things. I've been
>unable to get the trackball working with nextstep. It does work under
Actually, that's a Sager 7500 (I talked about the same machine somewhere else
in this group, but managed to get the Cirrus display model# wrong.
Dave
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 23:52:43 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Message-ID: <94219.23524334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help Gateway_2000 display
I had the same problem (the 800x600 maximum limit using an ATI GUP with
2MB of DRAM from Gateway). The problem is that DRAM on the GUp is just
too slow for NeXTSTEP. I talked with ATI about this and found out that
the make this card (with DRAM) ONLY for Gateway -- Gateway requested a
cheaper version of the GUP from ATI and that's what they came up with.
The reason it is too slow is because the DRAM version is "single-ported"
while the VRAM (normal) version is "dual-ported." Dual-ported means that
it can read and write at the same time. The NeXTSTEP driver appears to
need to do this to get anything over 800x600 on the card. I replaced
my ATI GUP with a VRAm version and it now runs fine at higher resolutions!
Speaking of "replacing" it -- here's a quick version of the Hell I went
through with Gateway to get it replaced. You see, when I bought my
machine in October of 1992, it came with an ATI GUP with 2MB of VRAM,
just like I ordered and everything was fine (I was a NS/Intel 3.1 beta
tester and using the ATI driver on the beta). About 8 months later, I
finally got around it using my parallel port and discovered that it was
not working properly. I talked with Gateway and they said they'd
replace my motherboard (Gateway's parallel ports are built in to the
motherboard). They also said that they had "upgraded" their ATI card
and would replace it for free with the motherboard upgrade -- this
sounded like a deal to me, so I did it. I got the replacements and
the parallel port was fine. At the same time, I upgraded from 3.1beta
to 3.1 release -- and began experiencing the higher resolution problems.
I was then gone from my machine for 3 months over summer vacation and
when I got back, could not seem to solve the problem with the resolution.
After a long time of testing and talking with Gateway (I was also
experiencing problems with video when compiling using MS Visual C++ under
Windows 3.1 "debug mode") and NeXT and ATI, I finally determined that
the problem was the video card being too slow. Once I discovered that
this "upgraded" ATI card from Gateway was DRAM instead of my original
VRAM, I was a bit upset! :) I talked with a tech at Gateway for almost
an hour on the phone trying to convince him that A) the DRAM was the
problem and B) it was their responsibility to replace it with a VRAM
version since that is what I originally had and _they_ told me to
upgrade it (I had never asked to have it exchanged in the first place --
the tech just told me to do it). Gateway tried to tell me all kinds of
garbage -- like "the DRAM version is the same speed as the VRAM
version of the card" -- which I easily disputed since I had talked with
ATI (they were very helpful) and learned all about dual- vs. single-
ported RAM... Then the Gateway guy tried to tell me that it wasn't
DRAM on my card at all! and that it was really VRAM, but reporting
DRAM when I ran the ATI diagnostics! Yeah, right. Again, ATI came to
the rescue disproving that one. In any case, after arguing with the
guy, I think he just finally got fed up -- he said he'd send me a
replacement VRAM card via UPS next-day. Since the new card has been
installed, I've had _no_ problems with NS or Windows debug mode and
Visual C++... I'm a happy camper.
Whoa! Sorry that got so long -- I get a little type-happy when I get
angry discussing Gateway's increasing cheapness...
If anyone has any questions regarding this -- feel free to mail me.
- John Goggan...
34ii5mt@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
or john@previous.csv.cmich.edu [NeXT-Mail fine.]
From: leigh@thylacine.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: i56 for Intel
Date: 8 Aug 1994 07:41:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
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References: <sandrac-050894225615@port61.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
In article <sandrac-050894225615@port61.annex4.net.ubc.ca> sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca
(Sandra Christensen) writes:
> The only problem is ilink says a different time every month... They have
> got to be the one of the worst shippers of a product since Rosebase and
> Pages...
> smiles
Info I received from ilink's distributors is that their hold-ups included
having one of their designers in an accident. Their distributors expected
September, I'd hazard a guess around October.
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Computer Science Dept Phone: +61-9-380-1945,Fax:+61-9-380-1089
University of Home NeXTMail:leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au
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From: leigh@thylacine.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: i56 for Intel
Date: 8 Aug 1994 07:41:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
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References: <sandrac-050894225615@port61.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
In article <sandrac-050894225615@port61.annex4.net.ubc.ca> sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca
(Sandra Christensen) writes:
> The only problem is ilink says a different time every month... They have
> got to be the one of the worst shippers of a product since Rosebase and
> Pages...
> smiles
Info I received from ilink's distributors is that their hold-ups included
having one of their designers in an accident. Their distributors expected
September, I'd hazard a guess around October.
--
Leigh Smith NeXTMail: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au
Computer Science Dept Phone: +61-9-380-1945,Fax:+61-9-380-1089
University of Home NeXTMail:leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au
Western Australia Home Phone: +61-9-382-3071
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From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Re: cheap SCSI card for CDROM needed...
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <Cu7Grp.5y4@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 07:28:35 GMT
References: <31nati$769@news.pacifier.com>
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Kirk Petersen (kirkp@pacifier.com) wrote:
> I have gotten all of the other hardware difficulties worked out
> to upgrade my machine to NeXTStep, but I am in need of a SCSI card so
> that I can run a CDROM drive. I don't want to spend a lot, since I will
> only be using it to install (could someone tell me if the installation
> CD is used very much after installation). However, since I am only using
> it a little bit, I don't need very much speed. I have seen several CDROM
> drives that come with SCSI adapters, such as the Future Domain TMC-850M
> or the Adaptec AVA-1515. Are these SCSI adapters supported?
> If there are any noticable errors in my thought process above,
> please point them out, it will probably save me big bucks.
I don't know a AVA-1515 from Adaptec. Maybe do you mean the AHA1510/1520/1522
family. There is a driver called "AIC6X60" which I got for a Intel GX
Professional. But it turned out that AIC6260 and AIC6360 are Adaptec
chips which are used on the AHA1510/1520/1522 boards (and on the 1505 too? -
I'm not sure).
Also the Soundblaster 16 with SCSI-2 uses the AIC6360. Since I've such
a board I tested the driver with a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM attached
to it. It worked and I was able to access data CD's. But I couldn't play
audio CD's although I invoked the free "XAmode" utility before to set the
Toshiba into XAmode. But this is probably a problem with the Toshiba
(I remember that it was already discussed here but don't remember how to
fix it).
So Soundblaster 16 could be a ideal board for sound and low-end SCSI,
but unfortunatly the free Soundblaster 16 driver didn't work for me
(I already mailed to the author - no answer yet).
If you want to install with the AIC6X60 driver you need a NeXT formatted
floppy with a /usr/Devices directory which have to contain the
driver (directory AIC6X60.config). Also you should use IRQ11 and Port
0x340 otherwise you must edit the Instance0.table file in the driver's
directory to reflect your settings.
How to use this floppy during installation is described in the installation
manual.
I don't know who is the provider of the AI6X60 driver (it contains
no copyright) and I got it from the net with the hint that it has still
some problems with external hard disks, but SB16 doesn't have an external
SCSI connector.
So if you want to have it drop me a line. I'll send it you.
But no guarantees, neither I installed NS with the driver nor did
I any stress testing. I could just normal access and read data CD's.
Thomas
PS: The driver is version 3.2.2. Anyone here who has a newer version? Thanks.
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From: leigh@thylacine.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: i56 for Intel
Date: 8 Aug 1994 08:12:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <324pd1$p8n@styx.uwa.edu.au>
References: <sandrac-050894225615@port61.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
In article <sandrac-050894225615@port61.annex4.net.ubc.ca> sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca
(Sandra Christensen) writes:
> The only problem is ilink says a different time every month... They have
> got to be the one of the worst shippers of a product since Rosebase and
> Pages...
> smiles
Info I received from ilink's distributors is that their hold-ups included
having one of their designers in an accident. Their distributors expected
September, I'd hazard a guess around October.
--
Leigh Smith NeXTMail: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au
Computer Science Dept Phone: +61-9-380-1945,Fax:+61-9-380-1089
University of Home NeXTMail:leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au
Western Australia Home Phone: +61-9-382-3071
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI tape - does it work ?
Date: 7 Aug 1994 18:08:38 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <3234em$f5@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk>
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pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes:
>I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF
>controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive.
The Sankyo tape works excellently with NeXTSTEP, I use it for months.
>I tried the scsi tape driver and though most of the "mt" commands
>seem to be o.k. and it does find the drive - it doesn't
>actually read (or write) the tape. Is the problem likely to be the
>driver, the tape drive or both. Do SCSI tapes usually work under
>NS/FIP or do people ahve trouble with them.
First: Be sure you installed the tape driver with Configure.app.
Second: You need to specify a fixed block size for the tape device.
This is done with a simple ioctl() call. The tool for it is called
'mtset' or 'setmtd' and can be found in the scsitools archive, e.g. on
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. Just compile the little source and do a
'mtset -d /dev/nrst0 -f 512', and you'll be happy about your tape.
It is very nasty that mtset is not part of the NeXTSTEP distribution,
because it is an essential tool.
Markus.
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// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk (Phil Robinson)
Subject: NeXT 400dpi laser for sale. (England)
Organization: Myorganisation
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 17:21:21 +0000
Message-ID: <776107281snz@unitec.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Had it a year or so. Printed about 10 sheets (tested it then put it
back in the box). Can ship to anywhere you want.
Best offer ?
Thanks for reading this
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From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help Gateway_2000 display
Date: 8 Aug 1994 06:42:01 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu
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References: <94219.23524334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>I had the same problem (the 800x600 maximum limit using an ATI GUP with
>2MB of DRAM from Gateway). The problem is that DRAM on the GUp is just
>too slow for NeXTSTEP. I talked with ATI about this and found out that
>the make this card (with DRAM) ONLY for Gateway -- Gateway requested a
>cheaper version of the GUP from ATI and that's what they came up with.
>The reason it is too slow is because the DRAM version is "single-ported"
>while the VRAM (normal) version is "dual-ported." Dual-ported means that
>it can read and write at the same time. The NeXTSTEP driver appears to
>need to do this to get anything over 800x600 on the card. I replaced
>my ATI GUP with a VRAm version and it now runs fine at higher resolutions!
>Speaking of "replacing" it -- here's a quick version of the Hell I went
>through with Gateway to get it replaced. You see, when I bought my
>machine in October of 1992, it came with an ATI GUP with 2MB of VRAM,
>just like I ordered and everything was fine (I was a NS/Intel 3.1 beta
>tester and using the ATI driver on the beta). About 8 months later, I
>finally got around it using my parallel port and discovered that it was
>not working properly. I talked with Gateway and they said they'd
>replace my motherboard (Gateway's parallel ports are built in to the
>motherboard). They also said that they had "upgraded" their ATI card
>and would replace it for free with the motherboard upgrade -- this
>sounded like a deal to me, so I did it. I got the replacements and
>the parallel port was fine. At the same time, I upgraded from 3.1beta
>to 3.1 release -- and began experiencing the higher resolution problems.
>I was then gone from my machine for 3 months over summer vacation and
>when I got back, could not seem to solve the problem with the resolution.
>After a long time of testing and talking with Gateway (I was also
>experiencing problems with video when compiling using MS Visual C++ under
>Windows 3.1 "debug mode") and NeXT and ATI, I finally determined that
>the problem was the video card being too slow. Once I discovered that
>this "upgraded" ATI card from Gateway was DRAM instead of my original
>VRAM, I was a bit upset! :) I talked with a tech at Gateway for almost
>an hour on the phone trying to convince him that A) the DRAM was the
>problem and B) it was their responsibility to replace it with a VRAM
>version since that is what I originally had and _they_ told me to
>upgrade it (I had never asked to have it exchanged in the first place --
>the tech just told me to do it). Gateway tried to tell me all kinds of
>garbage -- like "the DRAM version is the same speed as the VRAM
>version of the card" -- which I easily disputed since I had talked with
>ATI (they were very helpful) and learned all about dual- vs. single-
>ported RAM... Then the Gateway guy tried to tell me that it wasn't
>DRAM on my card at all! and that it was really VRAM, but reporting
>DRAM when I ran the ATI diagnostics! Yeah, right. Again, ATI came to
>the rescue disproving that one. In any case, after arguing with the
>guy, I think he just finally got fed up -- he said he'd send me a
>replacement VRAM card via UPS next-day. Since the new card has been
>installed, I've had _no_ problems with NS or Windows debug mode and
>Visual C++... I'm a happy camper.
I had a similar problem wiht Gateway. I bought from them in March of 92.
Almost a year after I bought my system, I tried to add a new harddrive.
My original motherboard had a problem in that it didn't recognize more than
1 hard drive (the built in hard drive controller was broke). So they
sent me a disk to upgrade the bios. THe problem was, that in the mean
time they had changed motherboards at Gateway, and the disk they sent me
was for a software only upgrade to the bios, and my motherboard has a
jumper for doing it (it still amazes me that a computer company doesn't
keep detailed records of things like which versions of their product
they ship to their customers, since databases with that level of
sophistication are really trivial technology). So I trashed my bios (or,
rather, they did). For some reason, this ALSO damaged my ATI GUP card.
SO they ship me a new motherboard, which dies because the damage ATI card
is *really* messed up. So they replace both my card and my motherboard.
But the replacement video card looks different.. it was a 2mb Dram card.
And, it doesn't work at all with Nextstep. So I checked with ATI to be
sure it was in fact DRAM. It was. I checked on these newsgroups about
whether or not the DRAM card would work with Nextstep (at that time
the groups thought that it was a driver problem: the DRAM card needed
some change to the drivers to be able to function in its higher modes).
So I call gateway back and they said "it's not a Dram card, it's a vram
card, they're just mounted parallel to the card since it's a card that
has 2mb installed at the factory" (my original card was 1mb, that I had
upgraded). And I said "but the diagnostics said Dram". Luckily my
Tech didn't try to argue with the diagnostics. He said it shouldn't matter.
I told him the software I use (the nextstep OS) required the VRAM card,
and doesn't work at all (so I lied a little) with the DRAM card, and that
further, the DRAM card is a cheaper part, and by warranty they are legally
obliged to replace my card with one of equal or greater value (least I
think they are... I was just talking at that point). They guy got a
little nervous, and went and talked to his boss. Then he checked with
inventory to see if they could even get me a VRAM card (apparently, by
march of 1994 they didn't keep them in stock anymore..and the guy implied
to me that ATI doesn't even make the cards anymore). They told me they'd
ship me the card regular UPS. I informed them that due to their products
deficiencies, I had been without a computer for a month (with all the
run-arround and replacements etc), and I expected it next day. The guy
checked with his boss again, and they sent it next day. At that point,
I was 1 week away from my warranty expiration.
1 week and 2 days later my monitor died. I called up and bitched at
them. They said that because I had been having lots of problems with
my video cards, they said they'd go ahead and give me a new monitor,
and how great gateway is for honoring a warranty after the expiration
date *gag*.
>Whoa! Sorry that got so long -- I get a little type-happy when I get
>angry discussing Gateway's increasing cheapness...
Fine with me. Of the 4 or 5 Gateway customers I know, only 1 has been
trouble free. To me, while they offer a great price, what you lose in order
to get that price just isn't worth it. I would never buy from them again.
And I would always recommend that any client I ever have buy from
someone else. Even if all you do is Dos/Windows, Gateway's hardware
doesn't have the reliability to even fill that bill adquately. I've
been told that if you run OS/2, they'll blame all of your problems on
OS/2, and refuse to fix anything. When I told them about Nextstep
on my machine, they asked "Nextstep? What kind of program is that?".
On several of the comp.sys.ibm.pc.* newsgroups, I've heard that their
monitors really have major quality problems.
I whole heartedly agree with your exasperation, and while both of these
articles might ramble on a bit, maybe we'll save some new-to-nextstep
user the frustrations of trying to put their new OS on a Gateway. Which
would be doubly bad, because then some anti-NS bigot would probably
blame the problems on Nextstep.
John
--
John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu)
Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu)
========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help: keyboard not recognized!
Date: 8 Aug 1994 12:42:58 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Message-ID: <32598i$5t0@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
In article <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
> In article <320ooj$73s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > after I have successfully installed NS-FIP, my keyboard is not
> > recognized from within NS. I tried it with a Fujitsu and with a
> > Cherry keyboard, but no response.
> >
> > My machine has a Plato P5-90 motherboard. Does anybody know a
> > solution?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lars
>
> I should have added that I already have changed the keyboard type
to
> 102-keys . I also tried to boot with reduced processor speed, with
no
> success, however. I'm totally cueless.
>
> Does anybody have an idea?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Lars
Thanks to all who tried to help me. Finally, I could get the machine
running: I only had to remove the PS/2 mouse driver. Special thanks
to Jason McNamara at Talus, who sent the solution!
A note to NeXT: please fix this, or at least add a note in the
installation guide!
Cheers,
Lars
--
Lars Konieczny
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need new email address of Talus
Date: 8 Aug 1994 13:19:58 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <325bdu$4v8@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <321d0g$nq8@usenet.rpi.edu>
Sorry for the delay, just returned from an on-site installation...
Anyway, our e-mail addresses are as follows:
Houston office:
info@talus.com
Dan Kramer: dan@talus.com
Jason McNamara: jason@talus.com
Steve Hurst: shurst@talus.com
Chris Okelberry: oke@talus.com
Steve Sarich: steve@talus.com
Moscow office (detailed technical support):
bugs@talus.ru
Thanks!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
(713) 578-1434
fax: (713) 578-1815
> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
> > All the old addresses seem to bounce.
> >
> > Could someone from Talus please send me the correct destination?
> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3.3 NCR Driver (was:Re: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90)
Date: 8 Aug 1994 13:29:47 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <325c0b$57q@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <1994Aug7.035447.27963@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
> Ah ha! The NCR Timeout problem.
I also ran into one like this on a DEC XL - 1 of 2 machines worked fine
with 72 MB, the other gave me this timeout error with anything more than
40 MB. Seems like a motherboard problem... The last 20 XLs that Alpine
ordered required 4 M/B switchouts! I love the machine, but...
> 1) move the PCI boards around. Sometimes this helps.
> 2) Try unplugging the serial and parallel ports. I don't know how this
> could help, but it appears to have done the trick for me.
>
> Pray that the PCI support in NS 3.3 is good. Remember that 3.2 does
> not correctly support PCI making driver writer's tasks pretty hard.
> Flakiness could happen.
The driver will be redone in 3.3 as soon as NeXT (or someone) gets us a
copy of the 3.3 driverkit. 3.3 will break all existing PCI drivers, and
we will get the rewrites done quickly.
> If all else fails, return your motherboard and/or SCSI controller.
>
> - db
Or e-mail myself or bugs@talus.ru directly. Alexei is a wizard, and can
help 8 times out of 10. I don't know much, but I have done a _lot_ of
installs, and can help with the little problems.
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
(713) 578-1434
fax (713) 578-1815
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: MegaPixel display for a PC???
Message-ID: <Cu6y32.Bw8@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <3222h2$eho@news.pacifier.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 00:45:00 GMT
In article <3222h2$eho@news.pacifier.com> kirkp@pacifier.com (Kirk Petersen) writes:
> Recently, while shopping in an electronics/computer surplus store,
>I found an old NeXT Cube MegaPixel display. It was the original (17"?) one.
>Since I can get it for cheap, I was wondering if I can convert it from the
>NeXT Cube plug to a VGA type plug. I know that the plug carries power and
>sound in addition to the video signal, I am just wondering if I could make an
>adapter easily, or are the formats too dissimilar?
>
>Kirk Petersen
>kirkp@pacifier.com
Probably better to sell it, if it is working, to someone who has a
non-functional monitor on their NeXT and use the proceeds towards
a proper monitor for your non-NeXT machine.
david
------
--
david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more
voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help: keyboard not recognized!
Date: 8 Aug 1994 14:37:51 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <325fvv$77f@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
In article <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
> In article <320ooj$73s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > after I have successfully installed NS-FIP, my keyboard is not
> > recognized from within NS. I tried it with a Fujitsu and with a
> > Cherry keyboard, but no response.
> >
> > My machine has a Plato P5-90 motherboard. Does anybody know a
> > solution?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lars
>
> I should have added that I already have changed the keyboard type to
> 102-keys . I also tried to boot with reduced processor speed, with no
> success, however. I'm totally cueless.
>
> Does anybody have an idea?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Lars
> --
> Lars Konieczny
> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de
I already sent Lars this info, but I thought others might be
interested, so...
This is covered in the NextAnswers doc on keyboard support. I am unsure
whether the new keyboard/mouse drivers on the ftp site fix this, but
currently the PS/2 mouse driver interferes with keyboard support on some
systems with non-standard PS/2 mouse hardware implementations.
Solution that worked for me, on our Plato board:
boot up with config=Default.
using mouse only, remove the PS/2 mouse driver from config.app.
reboot with normal config
keyboard should now work normally
I will test this with the new keyboard/mouse drivers shortly.
I hope this helps.
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 problems (pentium users please read)
Date: 2 Aug 1994 22:38:18 GMT
Organization: - CyberDyne Systems -
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <31mhsq$6jf@anduin.subculture>
References: <Ctu4C9.EFM@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <Ctu4C9.EFM@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) writes:
[Stuff deleted...]
> I have a Pentium 60 (Intel motherboard) that DEFINATELY has overheating
> problems. I have the case off and a large house fan pointed at it.
> You might want to try something similar with yours to see
> what happens. Mine runs smoothly 24hrs a day with this set up. With
> the case on, it won't last 15 minutes.
^^^^^^^^^^^
This seems to be normal for Intel's. My NS3.2 ran on DX2/66 WITHOUT any
processor cooling system, and the machine crashed in about the same time
range (5-15 minutes). Now i have a FAN and everything works great.
If you're not sure what the machine could crash, go into DOS and start
benchmarks (or equivalent cpu-consumers) If it crashes, it might be a heat
problem (or a broken processor) The DOS behavior of my system was like:
[power on]
C:\>
[wait 15 mins. and hit Enter]
Division by Zero
[crash]
- Urs
--
Urs Gubser | NeXT-Email accepted
Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake,
Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake."
----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: ac42@ac42.cityscape.co.uk (ac42)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel Hardware for Nextstep
Date: 8 Aug 1994 14:28:40 GMT
Organization: IP-GOLD User
Message-ID: <325feo$cnh@ns.cityscape.co.uk>
Is there a list of supported hardware for nextstep ? I'm trying to decide
whether to upgrade an ISA 486 DX2 I already have or buy a new machine
What are the critical components - Video Card & SCSI CDROM ? Will
IDE drives work ?
Any help appreciated
J.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Cairo@Knoware.nl (Scairo)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep on Gateway P5-90
Sender: news@knoware.nl (News Account)
Message-ID: <Cu7qqD.7vM@knoware.nl>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 11:03:49 GMT
References: <9407191732.AA22004@pcsbst.pcs.dec.com> <CtAz78.A4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Organization: Cairo
>I AM running NS 3.2 on a Gateway 2000 P5-90 right now !!
>And I can tell it's very fast for the price you pay !! I have an Adaptec
>1542CF (which is not very fast), a 2GB Micropolis Fast-SCSI-II HD and the
>PCI miro Crystal 32S for the video.
>With that configuration, I only needed drivers for the miro and they came
>with the card.
>I also have a Sony CDU-561 SCSI CD-ROM and an external 270MB SyQuest.
>Everything works perfectly under DOS/Windows and NeXTSTEP. And the P5-90
>is a scream !!
>
>Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
We have P5-90s. Would it work with a Matrox PCI video card?
Did the actual NeXTstep drivers come with the card?
Ton van der Liet, Holland
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90
Date: 8 Aug 1994 15:48:41 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <325k4p$a1t@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <MAGNUS.94Aug6123210@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
> The Talus-Driver does _not_ work with the Sony CDU541. Use another
> CD_ROM drive. It's hard to believe but true :-(
>
> This doesn't mean that it is impossible to use the "NeXT-CD" with
> NS/FIP, does it?
>
> -Magnus
No, just with our driver. Sorry. We just figured out how to get the
Toshiba to work properly (thanks, Garance!). Non-existent PCI support in
3.2 made the driver a great deal more difficult to write than non-PCI
drivers, and it works fast and flawlessly in most cases. As soon as we
see a driverkit for 3.3, we will have an even better driver.
We have also seen problems with the PCI bus in Gateway machines.
If you are buying or plan to buy a Gateway, don't expect the NCR driver to
work with it, even with our NCR cards. We are working on it, but that's
how things stand now.
I hope this helps folks in making buying decisions for their
systems, whether they use our drivers or not. The config process is
confusing enough without partisan biases. I will help anyone who e-mails
me, and as many people I can handle on the phone, with their
purchasing/config decisions. The more we help the community, the bigger
everyone's market will be, right?
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
(713) 578-1434
fax (713) 578-1815
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD Audio on NeXTSTEP for Intel
Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:56:15 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <325o3f$jlv@news.iastate.edu>
I have just installed NeXTSTEP 3.2 on our first Intel machine (a certified
HP Vectra 486/66XM). I used an NEC CDR74-1 SCSI CD-ROM player to install
the system, but I can not play Audio CD's. I can play Audio CD's on my
NeXTstation Turbo Color using the same drive. What have I done wrong?
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory
College of Veterinary Medicine
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa 50011
(515)294-4751
rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu
From: cs@cloud9.net (Carl Shapiro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Date: 8 Aug 1994 17:37:33 GMT
Organization: Cloud 9 Internet + White Plains, New York USA
Message-ID: <325qgt$uh2@news.cloud9.net>
I was reading Robert X. Cringely's "Notes From The Field" column
in InfoWorld the otherday (August 1, 1994 edition) and came across this
very interesting paragraph:
"Since the NSA is one of the world's largest users of Next
hardware, those guys would have been happy to hear that black is back
this fall under a Cannon label. The Japanese company, with some help
from American consultants, has turned Next's never relased dual 881100
machine into a dual PowerPC. This means there will also be a PowerPC
version of NextStep to compete this year with AIX, System 7.x, and
Windows NT."
Is this for real? I do not know if anybody has already posted
this, but I was very surprised when I read this. Oh well... If there is
anyone out there who knows more about this that I do, please feal free to
post some more information about this. Thank you very much in advance...
Carl Shapiro
cs@cloud9.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hbstrock@world.std.com (harold b strock)
Subject: Archive 525MB tape drive, Will it work under NS3.0 on black NeXTstation
Message-ID: <Cu8Cqy.9IA@world.std.com>
Summary: Will Archive 525MB SCSI tape drive work on black under NS3.0?
Keywords: Archive 525MB tape drive
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 18:59:22 GMT
I'm thinking of buying a used Archive 525MB tape drive to use
on my NeXTstation (black) under NS3.0
Will it work?
thanks
--
Harold B. Strock, PhD phone/fax 508/829-9610
Strock Technology Associates, Inc. Independent Licensing Executive
40 Driftwood DR Consultant in advanced materials
Holden, MA USA 01520-1559 product development & marketing
From: ericw@its.com (Eric Wespestad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon's Object.Station for AutoCAD under Windows too...
Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:58:15 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <325v87$38a@News1.mcs.com>
Keywords: INTEL, AutoCAD
Dear Net,
Does anyone know if the Object.Station from Cannon could also double as a
really great Windows machine for doing CAD stuff etc.? Principal usage
would be NEXTSTEP - but I would need to run AUTOCAD under Windows too.
Would the floppy and CDROM drives still be accessible under Windows? Also,
could you opt not to get the 2x CDROM from Cannon and install another 3x
or 4x of choice (perhaps the NEC) yourself? Any thoughts or
recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric Wespestad
Information Technology Solutions, Inc. VOICE: (312) 474-7700
500 West Madison, Suite 2210 FAX: (312) 474-9361
Chicago, Illinois 60661 EMAIL: ericw@its.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: karsten.wolf@erzíehung.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf)
Subject: Re: SCSI tape - does it work ?
Message-ID: <Cu7KHC.7D4@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
Sender: g402@jumbo.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 08:48:48 GMT
References: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk>
Organization: Hochschulrechenzentrum (HRZ) der Universitaet Giessen
In article <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk>, pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french) writes:
|> I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF
|> controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive.
|>
|> I tried the scsi tape driver and though most of the "mt" commands
|> seem to be o.k. and it does find the drive - it doesn't
|> actually read (or write) the tape. Is the problem likely to be the
|> driver, the tape drive or both. Do SCSI tapes usually work under
|> NS/FIP or do people ahve trouble with them.
|>
|> All help much appreciated...
|>
|> -pete.
We have a HP SCSI DAT-Tape. It works.
First, You have to conjure up configure.app and activate the scsi-tape-driver.
Boot again, and voilá: tar is working with Your dat-tape.
Cheers,
Karsten
From: ericw@its.com (Eric Wespestad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon's Object.Station for AutoCAD under Windows too...
Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:52:44 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <325uts$37q@News1.mcs.com>
Keywords: INTEL, AutoCAD
Dear Net,
Does anyone know if the Object.Station from Cannon could also double as a
really great Windows machine for doing CAD stuff etc.? Principal usage
would be NEXTSTEP - but I would need to run AUTOCAD under Windows too.
Would the floppy and CDROM drives still be accessible under Windows? Also,
could you opt not to get the 2x CDROM from Cannon and install another 3x
or 4x of choice (perhaps the NEC) yourself? Any thoughts or
recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric Wespestad
Information Technology Solutions, Inc. VOICE: (312) 474-7700
500 West Madison, Suite 2210 FAX: (312) 474-9361
Chicago, Illinois 60661 EMAIL: ericw@its.com
From: ericw@its.com (Eric Wespestad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon's Object.Station for AutoCAD under Windows too...
Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:55:59 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <325v3v$37v@News1.mcs.com>
Keywords: INTEL, AutoCAD
Dear Net,
Does anyone know if the Object.Station from Cannon could also double as a
really great Windows machine for doing CAD stuff etc.? Principal usage
would be NEXTSTEP - but I would need to run AUTOCAD under Windows too.
Would the floppy and CDROM drives still be accessible under Windows? Also,
could you opt not to get the 2x CDROM from Cannon and install another 3x
or 4x of choice (perhaps the NEC) yourself? Any thoughts or
recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric Wespestad
Information Technology Solutions, Inc. VOICE: (312) 474-7700
500 West Madison, Suite 2210 FAX: (312) 474-9361
Chicago, Illinois 60661 EMAIL: ericw@its.com
From: ericw@its.com (Eric Wespestad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon's Object.Station for AutoCAD under Windows too...
Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:57:07 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <325v63$387@News1.mcs.com>
Keywords: INTEL, AutoCAD
Dear Net,
Does anyone know if the Object.Station from Cannon could also double as a
really great Windows machine for doing CAD stuff etc.? Principal usage
would be NEXTSTEP - but I would need to run AUTOCAD under Windows too.
Would the floppy and CDROM drives still be accessible under Windows? Also,
could you opt not to get the 2x CDROM from Cannon and install another 3x
or 4x of choice (perhaps the NEC) yourself? Any thoughts or
recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric Wespestad
Information Technology Solutions, Inc. VOICE: (312) 474-7700
500 West Madison, Suite 2210 FAX: (312) 474-9361
Chicago, Illinois 60661 EMAIL: ericw@its.com
From: ericw@its.com (Eric Wespestad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon's Object.Station for AutoCAD under Windows too...
Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:57:46 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <325v7a$389@News1.mcs.com>
Keywords: INTEL, AutoCAD
Dear Net,
Does anyone know if the Object.Station from Cannon could also double as a
really great Windows machine for doing CAD stuff etc.? Principal usage
would be NEXTSTEP - but I would need to run AUTOCAD under Windows too.
Would the floppy and CDROM drives still be accessible under Windows? Also,
could you opt not to get the 2x CDROM from Cannon and install another 3x
or 4x of choice (perhaps the NEC) yourself? Any thoughts or
recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric Wespestad
Information Technology Solutions, Inc. VOICE: (312) 474-7700
500 West Madison, Suite 2210 FAX: (312) 474-9361
Chicago, Illinois 60661 EMAIL: ericw@its.com
From: charles400@aol.com (Charles400)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: configuration
Date: 8 Aug 1994 17:01:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3266ee$jk8@search01.news.aol.com>
Hey, can anyone tell me if this config. can run 3.2 out of the box..ie. no
drivers needed. 20MB RAM
100 MHZ DX4 PCI BUS
540 MB HD
2X CD ROM
17" SVGA MONITOR
DIAMOND VIPER PCI VIDEO CARD
4 16 BIT ISA SLOTS
2 32 BIT PCI SLOTS
1 SHARED SLOT
3.5 FLOPPY, MOUSE, KBD
Any critiques or suggestions would REALLY BE APPRECIATED!! I WANNA SPEND
$3000 TOPS BUT I AM WILLING TO LISTEN...THANK YOU FOR LOVING NEXT TOO...I
KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi)
Subject: Gateway2000 4DX2-66V installation
Message-ID: <erotandiCu8IGM.Kvq@netcom.com>
Summary: problem with finding w6 and w7
Keywords: help
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 21:02:46 GMT
Hello, I am trying to install NS/FIP and after consulting NeXTanswres, I
am more confused than ever. I do not understand why j20 has to be put on
pin 1 and 2 since it is the recovery mode and the G2000 tech do not
advise on doing so.
Secondly, I can not find w6 and w7 on my motherboard ( I am using the old
one)
Thirdly, I can not find the dip switch that has SW[1..4]? Could there
have mistaken it for SW8[1..4] ?
Lastly, I am not sure if my IDE contrlooer should be switched to medium
from fast.... And if I should Disable the last six options on the
second page of ROM configuration with the MCM2 chip set?
Cheers,
Edhi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: 21" Monitors
Message-ID: <1994Aug8.193701.25393@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 19:37:01 GMT
Hi. I was wondering if anyone out there has had experience with 21"
monitors. Any good/bad experiences? Good/bad prices? Comments on
sharpness, color, dot pitch, focus, modes (from 320x200 -> 1600x1200),
refresh rates, etc. would be appreciated!
Thanks.
Mike Stepniczka
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium & PCI ... best options for DownUnder
Date: 8 Aug 1994 22:34:54 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <326bue$ocd@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <Cu0nnI.FMy@ix.de>
Keywords: Talus, NCR
> BTW is there a Nextstep driver for the NCR53C810 SCSI chip
> around?
Why, yes :-). We have a driver which supports both the NCR
53C810 and 825 (wide) cards. We also sell the cards.. and
video drivers and cards... and 16-bit color laptops... and
some other future things that I can tell you about when I know
more about your interests.
Just drop a note to <info@talus.com> for a current
information and price sheet.
Thanks for the time and the bandwidth - - -
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
>
> --
> Harald Milz phone +49 (511) 53 52-377
> iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine fax +49 (511) 53 52-378
> Helstorfer Str. 7, D-30625 Hannover office: hm@ix.de
> P.O. Box 61 04 07, D-30604 Hannover home: hm@seneca.ix.de
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What happened to 68060 upgrade rumors?
Date: 8 Aug 1994 22:40:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <326c8a$29n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
The rumors about a forthcoming 68060 chip and plug in adaptor board for
NeXT Motorolla hardware seem to have evaporated. Such an upgrade chip was
supposed to come out sometime this summer. Has anybody heard any news?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: wildi@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PhotoCD, CD-ROM, Quadruppel-Spin
Message-ID: <1994Aug8.215519.43920@yogi>
Date: 8 Aug 94 21:55:19 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
Hallo everybody,
where can I get a list of working CD-ROM which are able to read
the ordinary Photo-CD format preferebly up to 64 base ?
I heard, that even quadruppel spin drive already exists ...
Please send your answers to wildi@urz.unibas.ch
Thank you, Markus Wildi
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Date: 8 Aug 1994 19:20:12 -0400
Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net>
References: <31qtqj$rvp@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Michael Ingram (ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com) wrote:
: I am thinking about purchasing a Micron P90 system in about 2 to 3 weeks and I would appreciate any
: comments regarding Micron computers, service, reliability, and any hardware I list below:
This system is based on the Micronics P54-90 motherboard which I just got.
So far it works great! Very fast.
: Tower Configuration
: 90 MHz Pentium
: 512K cache
: 32 Meg RAM
:
: 21" Monitor: NEC 6FGp or Nanao T660i
: NEC 3xi CD-ROM drive
If you are looking at 20" monitors, the Sony 2036(38?) is a very nice
monitor. The Nanao has the best electronics of the three and I believe
is the fastest. The NEC has the most saturated colors, but suffers from
typical NEC alignment problems (every single NEC I have ever seen). The
sony is a good compromise, great electronics, almost as good a tube as
the Nanao (the nanao is a sony tube, but a better grade than the one in
the Sony monitor). Also you might want to look at Nokia.
: Not sure about the following as far as hardware and/or availible drivers:
: Fast-SCSI 2 PCI card
I am waiting for the Talus drive for the Adaptec 2940. Should be
available sometime this month.(late)
Adaptec has the best configuration software (in their roms), and is a
great performer.
: Sound card w/ DSP
PAS here, works _ok_
: ATI Turbo Graphics 64-bit w/ 4Meg VRAM
I got the Diamond Stealth 64 pro and the #9 gxe pro, both Vram, both 4
megs. I like the construction of the #9 board better, but the WinDoze
drivers for it suck. The Diamond has better windoze software. They
benchmark identically under NS. The #9 software for Dos/Windoze was very
dissapointing, none of the advertised features were available either on
the install disks or on their bbs. Also, it looks as if #9 has opted for
a new color DAC replacing the Brooktree part with a cheap TI part. The
picture suffers noticeably because of this (distortion at the extreme
edges), the Diamond Card has a Brooktree ramdac so I chose the Diamond
over the #9.
Talus has/will have a driver soon for the ATI, but I don't think it will
be a significantly better card than either the #9 or the Diamond, both of
which use the S3 964 chip which is a real screamer.
You may be interested in the other features of the motherboard.
Two serial ports, one parallel:
So far no problems. The ports work well, I can download at a locked
serial rate of 38400 (14.4k connection) and play Doom at the same time
without any data loss or errors. Haven't played with the parallel port
too much, other than to print now and again.
Got two ide drives as well as the systems 1.7 gig SCSI, the ide drives
work well under NS, and so far, no probs.
: Again any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
: Also, I need the address and phone number for TALUS. I hear they are a good source for drivers and
: hardware.
Brick
--
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Digital Processing Systems
brick@iac.net
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From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: how to connect a lino or HPIIISI throught ethernet (summary)
Message-ID: <1994Aug8.175515.242@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 17:55:15 GMT
First, thanks to :
- Izumi Ohzawa
- Robert Frank
- Fabien Roy
- David Andrew Knight
for their answer.
The original question was :
> I d like to connect a NeXTStation to a typesetter (linotronic) throught
> ethernet. I think it is possible but I see nothing on the PrintManager (only
> serial at 57600 Max). I also heard about a thing called TTYtoTCP. What it is
> and is it usefull ?
> Same questions for a HPIIISI laser printer.
>
> PS : I don t want to use AppleTalk solutions, I want true TCP/IP from the
> kernel...
From Izumi :
> Three options for HP LJ IIISi (JetDirect Ethernet).
>
> [1] Get (beg for) NEXTSTEP 3.3 now in beta test. NS 3.3 allows JetDirect
> setup via PrintManager.
>
> [2] There is a 3-rd party JetDirect driver called TCPprd at the FTP site.
> Look in the index at the FTP site.
>
> [3] If your HP JetDirect card is relatively new (after May 1, 94) with
> model # J2552A or J2550A, it does LPR/LPD protocol in addition to the
> standard TCP port 9100 socket interface.
>
> Do as root:
> niload -r printers / < hpJetDirect.lpd
>
> --- hpJetDirect.lpd --
> name = printers;
> _writers = "*";
> CHILDREN = ({
> name = hp_Color;
> _nxfinalform = ();
> lo = lock;
> lp = "";
> mx = 0;
> note = "HP DeskJet 1200C/PS Color PS printer";
> rm = hostname_of_printer;
> rp = "HPDJ1200C/PS";
> sd = /usr/spool/NeXT/hp_Color;
> sf = ();
> sh = ();
> ty = "HP DeskJet 1200C PS";
> });
> ---
> I tried this with HP DeskJet 1200C/PS with JetDirect Ethernet.
> Modify names accordingly.
> This works with NS <= 3.2, but I couldn't turn off the burst page
> with this interface.
From Robert (about every TCP/IP printer that use the LPD protocol) :
> The way I do it (perhaps close to what NeXT suggests in the NeXTAnswers) is
> either by writing the printcap entries into a file and then loading it into
> netinfo with niload (tedious!), or by setting up a serial printer of exactly
> the kind wanted and then removing the info about the serial device to which
> is to be printed (NOT the Device directory) and adding the rm and rp
> properties with NetInfoManager. The later has the advantage of having the
> right PPD's, all filters, and the directories automatically installed.
>
> rm is the remote host's name and rp is the remote host's printer name. These
> values are inserted directly into the main directory of the printer.
Fabien sent me an RTFD file explaining the solution of Robert (took from
NEXTSTEP In Focus, Summer 1993 - Volume 3, Issue 3).
I can mail it to people that are really lost (I have a limited credit for mail)
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Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96
neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
NS3.2 supporte avec le regret de ne pouvoir assurer NS3.2J
"ZenzenKanjiDeKaiteArimasen, ItsumoLatin8BitsASCIIdesu..."
...But it will change soon...
--
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Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96
neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 4DX2-66V installation
Date: 8 Aug 1994 23:25:41 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <326etl$crt@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <erotandiCu8IGM.Kvq@netcom.com>
Keywords: help
In article <erotandiCu8IGM.Kvq@netcom.com>,
Edhi Rotandi <erotandi@netcom.com> wrote:
>Hello, I am trying to install NS/FIP and after consulting NeXTanswres, I
>am more confused than ever. I do not understand why j20 has to be put on
>pin 1 and 2 since it is the recovery mode and the G2000 tech do not
>advise on doing so.
>
Never hurt my GW.
>Secondly, I can not find w6 and w7 on my motherboard ( I am using the old
>one)
What is your initial BIOS message? GW used several motherboards and
this would help determine which variety you have.
>
>Thirdly, I can not find the dip switch that has SW[1..4]? Could there
>have mistaken it for SW8[1..4] ?
>
Probably, there was only 1 set of switches on mine.
>Lastly, I am not sure if my IDE contrlooer should be switched to medium
>from fast.... And if I should Disable the last six options on the
>second page of ROM configuration with the MCM2 chip set?
>
Fast is fine if your drive can handle it. IDE is so slow anyway you
don't want to make it worse. Bear in mind that NS eventually loads
its own drivers for devices and bypasses much of the BIOS. You need to
set a few things correctly to allow NS to boot correctly. I've never
checked to see if this option is purely for hardware configuration or
it if the BIOS runs differently.
If I recall the NA correctly it indicated that some/(all?) of the com
ports and printer port were disabled. If you have a serial mouse you
should turn the com ports on. Also set the printer port to LPT 2, not
LPT 1.
Good luck.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Who's experiencing probs with P90s and NS/I?
Date: 9 Aug 1994 00:46:41 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <326jlh$r94@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
I and some other people purchased Pentium 90 systems from clone vendors, both
experienced and inexperienced with NEXTSTEP.
The common problem with all these systems is that we're experiencing Window
Server crashes on a regular basis. The symptom is that the Workspace just
suddenly segues to the console window and reports an error like this:
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: WindowServer: Exception caught: PS-108.1 on host `monolith', user `kris': Memory access exception on address 0x11cc000: memory error (SIGBUS),
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: [ eip = 0x84c7e
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x84f6a
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x84834
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x111fdc
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x123a0
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x23b52
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x3933
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x2d11b
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: , from 0x2d6aa
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith WindowServer[177]: ]
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith CDPlayer[720]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 1107c, data -102
Aug 7 23:09:56 monolith CDPlayer[720]: Exiting due to Window Server death
With only a few pieces of hardware
in common, I'm wondering if our problems stem from running NEXTSTEP on such a
fast CPU, or if it's something more mundane like incompatibilities with video
cards, bad jumper settings, etc. Anyway, if you're running NEXTSTEP on a
Pentium 90 and have any thoughts to share on your experience, please drop me
a line at this email address, or at kmagnusson@zinc.com.
Just for reference: I'm running an Intel Premiere (Neptune chipset) mb with
256K cache, 16 MBs of 60 ns RAM, an Adaptec 1542CF, two Quantum LPS525S disks,
and a Number Nine GXE64 Pro video card with 2 MBs of VRAM--and a ProAudio
Basic 16.
Thanks,
..................................kris
Kristopher Magnusson
Technical publications
Zinc Software
(posting from my BYU account)
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sound + Fax Recommendations
Date: 9 Aug 1994 02:07:20 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <326oco$i3k@news.mic.ucla.edu>
For NeXTStep (i.e., drivers necessary), I'd like to buy:
* mid-end sound
(I only play-back, mostly speech, occasionally multi-channel music; I
never use MIDI and probably won't record much more than speech)
* low-end fax hardware
(hi-end fax, but lo-end data transmission. I will not need to log in from
remote sites, or receive faxes. I just want to send faxes from the print
menu, but those as fast as possible.)
Any favorites?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
From: kparks@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: hayes modem help
Date: 9 Aug 1994 00:49:08 -0400
Organization: Brooklyn College
Message-ID: <3271s4$4s0@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu>
-----------------------------------------------------------
hi all !
i posted a while back about this but i am still
having problems so here it is again. To those of you
who have already lent a hand - THANK YOU!
i just got my hands on a Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400
and i can't get it to work correctly.
I am using C-Kermit 5A(189)on a vintage 25MHz NeXTStation
(one of the ol' pizza boxes).
The remote site that i connect with has C-Kermit running
on a Sun Sparcstation. All i did was change the modem, and change
a few things in the .kermrc file and now it doesn't work.
Is there something else that i am supposed to do with a Hayes Modem,
that i am not doing?
The problem is speed.
The characters appear on my screen very very slowly.
It takes forever for the login: of the remote machine to come up. If i
somehow manage to login and try to issue a command (lets say ls) Everything
freezes for a while, then it prints the characters very slowly in bunches,
then it freezes again, then a few more characters...
it takes about 15 minutes to display a page of text.
It's really unbelievable.
I'm really at a loss. I am not even sure what i should be looking for.
I just can't figure out what i'm doing that is wrong.
The old Racal-Vadic 1200 modem with the 4 line .kermrc file works fine.
But I cant get The Hayes Smartmodem OPTIMA 14400 to do it's thang.
Here's what my .kermrc looks like (between the dotted lines):
--------------------------------------------------------------------
echo Executing \v(cmdfile) for \v(system)...
set line /dev/cufa
set speed 38400
#set speed 19200
set parity none
set file display fullscreen
set terminal bytesize 8
set file bytesize 8
set buffers 16384 16384
set send packet-length 248
set receive packet-length 248
set window 30
set block-check 3
set file names literal
set file character-set next-multinational
set terminal character-set next-multinational
set flow-control none
set file type binary
set dial hangup off
set dial modem-hangup off
set dial display on
set dial speed-matching off
set modem hayes
set carrier auto
set prompt {\v(host).C-Kermit> }
cd ~/downloads
--------------------------------------------------------------------
I hope that there others out there with a NeXT, who
are also using this modem and can give some advise. Help. Please.
I would be grateful for any help that you could give.
Thanks very much in advance!
Help. Please.
Sorry i can't get NeXTmail or MIME-mail,
i have to get my mail from a cluster of SUN computers.
Everything Everbest,
kevin parks
the center for computer music
conservatory of music
brooklyn college of the city university of new york
E-mail:
kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu
*-------------------------------------------------------------------*
* Once an angry man dragged his father along the ground *
* through his own orchard. "Stop!" cried the groaning old *
* man at last, "Stop! I did not drag my father beyond this tree." *
* *
* - Gertrude Stein in The Making of Americans *
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From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: PCI SCSI Adaptor - does any work?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 01:48:00 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.014800.4061@bilver.oau.org>
Just got NSI up an running this past weekend. Comedy of errors
type routine however.
I had a BusTek (now BusLogic) 542B so I got the appropriate
ROMS for NeXTStep.
Got DMA failure. BL said to trying running the bus at a
slower speed as this can cause that.
Well this is a Micronics 90MHz Pentium, with Phoenix Bios, and
the Intel PCI chipset. This is the first motherboard I've seen
that won't let you set such things as wait states, bus speed,
etc.
No big deal - just means you have to use good hardware :-)
So I put in an Adaptec 1542C that was flaky in another system
and is going back under an RMA - but it was all I had.
Not wanting to buy another ISA SCSI board I really want to go
with PCI.
I called QLogic - their PCI board doesn't support NeXTStep I
was told. I saw this board in another environment and it
looks like a killer. Fast & Wide SCSI - with support for 15
targets - 20MB xfer rate. A new board ships in December.
BusLogic says their design means that drivers for one bus
architecture work on another so getting their PCI adaptor with
the correct ROMS is one way to go.
I talked to DPT - they are having production problems. Their
board was supposed to ship in July - but now it is still a few
weeks away.
Is anyone using PCI SCSI and running NeXTStep for Intel?
I'd really like to go this way. What's out there, or do I stay
with ISA for a few more months for SCSI?
Thanks for any help.
P.S. I had one problem in install. After getting everything
loaded and rebooting - mouse would not work. There is a
release note saying that on some systems if you are not using a
PS2 mouse that is built on the motherboard, sometimes you can
lock the keyboard. This also locked the mouse.
Loading the default drivers didn't work. You need to specify
bus mouse (I am using a genuine Logitech) on the drivers line
at boot.
If you make sure to remove the PS2 mouse drivers after you
first load, it will be fine. I think this needs a bit more
mention in the notes.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
From: wildi@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PhotoCD,CD-ROM, Quadruppel Spn
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.071647.43921@yogi>
Date: 9 Aug 94 07:16:47 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
Hallo,
I'm looking for a type of CD-ROM drive, which is able to read
PhotoCD up 64 base.
I Ieven heard that quadruppel spin ( 4 times) already are
available.
Does anybody know more ?
Thanks in andvance, Markus Wildi, wildi@urz.unibas.ch
From: angelo@heinz.com (Angel Cura Civetta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM under DOS
Message-ID: <1994Aug8.183740.16495@heinz.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 18:37:40 GMT
Sender: angelo@heinz.com
Organization: Federico Heinz Consulting
Hello everybody!
Has anyone tried to use an original NeXT (Sony) CD_ROM drive to work under
DOS (5.0 or 6.2)?
I want to connect it to an Adaptec 1452b SCSI adapter on a 486 clone.
Does anybody know know which device driver to use and how to set up the
CONFIG.SYS file?
Thanks in advance.
- Angelo
--
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F. Heinz Consultora | (NeXTmail welcome)
Benigno Acosta 4528 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: NeXTSTEP on Canon Object Station?
Message-ID: <Cu9qo0.11o@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Summary: rumors about how well it runs?
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:57:34 GMT
folks,
has anyone heard how NeXTSTEP runs on the Canon Object
Station? Would this be a good choice for a netinfo server?
Comments?
Thanx in advance,
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From: harrap@geol.queensu.ca (Rob Harrap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ASUS 486SV2 Motherboard -> ok for NSFIP?
Date: 9 Aug 1994 14:00:32 GMT
Organization: Queens University, Dept. of Geological Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <328260$hdu@knot.queensu.ca>
Dear NExTies:
I'm thinking of upgrading a pc to a VL machine using a 486 SV2 ASUS motherboard. Anyone have comments on whether or not this will work or not? If not, can anyone recommend a reasonably inexpensive VL board that I can put my existing (DX1-50) chip in (and run slow if necessary).
If this is in the FAQ, sorry,....
Rob Harrap
harrap@geol.queensu.ca
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: need info on Buslogic 445 vlb-scsi adapter
Date: 9 Aug 94 08:09:15
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Aug9080915@crl.crl.nmsu.edu>
I am ready to change the adaptec 1542c into a buslogic 445 adapter in
my system NS/fip 3.2. If you are using buslogic 445 for a NS/fip
system, may I get some advice from you? I am using the updated adaptec
driver in my system, will the replacing of adapter be straightforward
or troublesome?
I have the next.answer for buslogic 445. Besides that, what else do I
need to know? The reason I want to get extra information from netters
is that I bought DPT 2012 for NS/fip 3.1 following next.answer, and
called NeXT and DPT tech supports for numerous times, finally figured
out it was a wrong buying.
Also, who is best mail-order dealer of buslogic adapters?
Regards,
ZiZi
From: lolo@alpha.frmug.fr.net (Laurent Azzopardi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI tape - does it work ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 9 Aug 1994 04:45:07 -0000
Organization: Slafe Corp.
Message-ID: <3271kj$13a@alpha.frmug.fr.net>
References: <31tpjl$7pc@castle.york.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
pete french (pete@ohm.york.ac.uk) wrote :
~> I just bought a PC to run NS/FIP 3.2 on. It has an Adaptec 1542CF
~> controller in it currently with a SANYKO CP525 scsi tape drive.
I've got exactly the same configuration and it works very well.
but you must use something like this :
--- snip --- snip --- snip --- snip ---
/*
* mtset - set SCSI tape driver characteristics
*
* setmtd - set SCSI tape driver to a fixed block size
* by John L. Chmielewski
* Tue Feb 19, 1991
*
* Modified to take drive name argument and default to non-rewinding mode:
* by David D. Johnson (ddj@gradient.com)
* Sun Feb 24, 1991
*
* Modified to use switches to change tape device name and characteristics:
* mtset [-d name] [-f size] [-i]
* -d tape device name (default /dev/nrst0)
* -f Sets the driver to fixed block mode, uses
* argument of block size in bytes (default 512 bytes),
* Variable block mode is default.
* -i Inhibit illegal length (default is to allow illegal length)
*/
/*
USE AT YOUR OUR RISK.
I NOT NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEM CAUSED BY THIS PROGRAM.
*/
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <dev/scsireg.h>
#define RSTDEVICE "/dev/nrst0"
#define BLOCKSIZE 512
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
extern int optind;
extern char *optarg;
int fd;
int defsize = BLOCKSIZE;
int size = BLOCKSIZE;
char *deffile = RSTDEVICE;
char *file = RSTDEVICE;
u_int mode = MTIOCVARBLK;
u_int inhibit = MTIOCALILL;
char c;
while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "d:f:i")) != EOF) {
switch (c) {
case 'd':
file = optarg;
break;
case 'f':
mode = MTIOCFIXBLK;
size = atoi(optarg);
break;
case 'i':
inhibit = MTIOCINILL;
break;
default:
fprintf(stderr,
"usage: %s [-d device] [-f block-size] [-i]\n",
argv[0]);
fprintf(stderr,
" -d tape device name (default %s)\n",
deffile);
fprintf(stderr,
" -f set fix block mode with size (default size
%d)\n",
defsize);
fprintf(stderr,
" -i Inhibit illegal length\n");
fprintf(stderr,
" default: variable block mode, allow illegal
length\n");
exit(1);
}
}
if ((fd = open(file, O_RDWR)) < 0) {
perror(file);
exit(1);
}
if (ioctl(fd, mode, &size) < 0) {
perror("ioctl");
exit(1);
}
if (ioctl(fd, inhibit) < 0) {
perror("ioctl");
exit(1);
}
(void) close(fd);
return 0;
}
--- snip --- snip --- snip --- snip ---
that's all.
Bye
Laurent.
--
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
* lolo@alpha.frmug.fr.net <-> NeXTmail accepted (not > 20 Ko) *
* lolo@alpha.epita.fr > *
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: can't install NS/FIP on a P5-90
Date: 10 Aug 1994 09:15:46 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32a5s2$fhn@packer.eps.com>
References: <325k4p$a1t@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
> We have also seen problems with the PCI bus in Gateway machines.
> If you are buying or plan to buy a Gateway, don't expect the NCR driver
to
> work with it, even with our NCR cards. We are working on it, but that's
> how things stand now.
> I hope this helps folks in making buying decisions for their
> systems, whether they use our drivers or not. The config process is
> confusing enough without partisan biases. I will help anyone who
e-mails
> me, and as many people I can handle on the phone, with their
> purchasing/config decisions. The more we help the community, the bigger
> everyone's market will be, right?
I'm running a P5-90 with a NextStor NX92 PCI NCR SCSI card with the Talus
Driver, no problems whatsoever. I paid $90.00 for the SCSI card. I would
recommend the lates bios for the P5-90 I think is version 1.0.0.8 or
something like that.. THe GW uses the Intel Pluto motherboard.
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cannon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:28:53 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <3287bl$26i@mailer.fsu.edu>
References: <325qgt$uh2@news.cloud9.net>
Carl Shapiro (cs@cloud9.net) wrote:
: I was reading Robert X. Cringely's "Notes From The Field" column
: in InfoWorld the otherday (August 1, 1994 edition) and came across this
: very interesting paragraph:
I also saw that and was about to post.
Anybody know what the word is?
========================================================================
Peter Lakanen | I AM CLUB DJ. I AM A RE-MIXER. I USE A NeXT.
lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
========================================================================
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Large hard drives for black hardware
Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:33:37 GMT
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Message-ID: <3287kh$qcn@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I need to purchase a large external SCSI disk for a Nextstation Turbo quickly.
I need at least 4Gb but preferably more. Could one or two kind people who
have had a good experience with some drive on a Nextstation tell me what
you bought and from whom you bought it? Isn't there a new 9Gb Seagate drive?
Does it work? Thanks for any information you can pass along.
--
James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals
Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: configuration
Date: 9 Aug 1994 17:05:05 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <328d01$bnu@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <3266ee$jk8@search01.news.aol.com>
In article <3266ee$jk8@search01.news.aol.com> charles400@aol.com
(Charles400) writes:
> Hey, can anyone tell me if this config. can run 3.2 out of the box..ie.
no
> drivers needed. 20MB RAM
> 100 MHZ DX4 PCI BUS
> 540 MB HD
> 2X CD ROM
> 17" SVGA MONITOR
> DIAMOND VIPER PCI VIDEO CARD
> 4 16 BIT ISA SLOTS
> 2 32 BIT PCI SLOTS
> 1 SHARED SLOT
> 3.5 FLOPPY, MOUSE, KBD
>
> Any critiques or suggestions would REALLY BE APPRECIATED!! I WANNA SPEND
> $3000 TOPS BUT I AM WILLING TO LISTEN...THANK YOU FOR LOVING NEXT
TOO...I
> KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
God, life should be so easy :-)) We have been testing a number of
motherboards and we have found wide discrepancies in performance...and
some that just don't work worth a damn. We can definitely tell you to
stay away from the Opti chipset....this one's a REAL dog! But it's not
even THAT easy. Boards with the SAME chipset can vary widely. Then you
may get a motherboard that works fine, but doesn't work well with the CD
ROM drive :-((
I don't mean to discourage you, but I think others who have tried this
will tell you the same thing....it's worth paying a premium for a machine
that "just works". (Right Darcy?)
Steve Sarich III
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
(713) 578-1434
steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs. 712/80
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.162609.29257@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <1994Aug9.035636.20982@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 16:26:09 GMT
OK, so I can't calculate -- it's really 45% improvement, not 50%.
Also, a later version of H-P specs (for the 712/80 now, not 712/80i) says:
712/60: 58.1 SPECint92, 79 SPECfp92, 73 MIPS, 12.8MFLOPS(DP)
712/80: 84.3 SPECint92, 122 SPECfp92, 92 MIPS, 15.6 MFLOPS(DP)
Still, I don't understand how the hardware can be identical except for
33% clock speed (and a 100% difference in price) -- is there some
fancy cache on the /80 or something to give the extra performance
boost?
Brian Hess
bnh@active.com
Message-ID: <19940809.123531.202091.NETNEWS@VM1.ULG.AC.BE>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:35:21 +0200
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help: keyboard not recognized!
From: Vincent Minder <vmin@urba.ulg.ac.be>
References: <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Distribution: world
Organization: ULg C.R.A.U.
I!ve had the same problem with an Intel (OEM) Pentium 90
motherboard : everything goes fine but the keyboard never
gets recognized though the mouse works (this is not
sufficient to go past the login panel unfortunately).
A NEXT vendor told us he had faced the same problem with
some customer-owned 486 motherboards, and solved it by...
selling them a new motherboard.
I!d be interested in a cleaner solution too...
vmin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.165742.25780@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <31qtqj$rvp@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 16:57:42 GMT
In article <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net> brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) writes:
> I got the Diamond Stealth 64 pro and the #9 gxe pro, both Vram, both 4
>megs. I like the construction of the #9 board better, but the WinDoze
>drivers for it suck. The Diamond has better windoze software. They
>benchmark identically under NS. The #9 software for Dos/Windoze was very
>dissapointing, none of the advertised features were available either on
>the install disks or on their bbs. Also, it looks as if #9 has opted for
>a new color DAC replacing the Brooktree part with a cheap TI part. The
>picture suffers noticeably because of this (distortion at the extreme
>edges), the Diamond Card has a Brooktree ramdac so I chose the Diamond
>over the #9.
As far as I know, the #9 is faster under NEXTSTEP than the Diamond (at least
according to my now-defunct NXBench list). The #9 can be programmed in
444 mode, and I think the DIamond can only be programmed in 555 mode
which gives a 15% boost to the #9.
Another card which appears to be quite fast is the Elsia Winner 2000.
If I were to buy a new graphics card it would either be the
#9 which I have (I think I have the Brooktree RAMDAC. In any event
#9 offers both, if you ask) or the Elsa a (which has always benchmarked
very high, higher than the #9 at times). So really, either the #9 or
the Elsa is the fastest video card under NEXTSTEP/PCI.
>be a significantly better card than either the #9 or the Diamond, both of
>which use the S3 964 chip which is a real screamer.
I thik the Elsa uses the 964 as well.
> Got two ide drives as well as the systems 1.7 gig SCSI, the ide drives
>work well under NS, and so far, no probs.
I'd be interested in hearing your numbers under DrivePerformance.app.
- db
--
Clearly I remember picking on the boy; he seemed a harmless little f***. But
we unleashed a lion; gnashed his teeth and bit the recess lady's breast. How
can I forget. Then he hit me with a surprise left...
-- Pearl Jam, "Jeremy" (Or, how we create monsters. It's our responsibility.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: HP 712/60 vs. 712/80
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.035636.20982@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 03:56:36 GMT
1) Anybody know why the H-P 712/80 clock speed is 33% higher than the
712/60, yet the benchmarks seem to indicate a 50% processor
improvement? (H-P says 712/60 has 58 SPECint92 and 79 SPECfp92,
versus 712/80i's 84 SPECint92 and 79 SPECfp92.)
2) Why is the pricing more than 100% higher for that performance?
(712/60 list $2590, 712/80 list $6140, base unit only.)
3) Finally, has one of you actually bought a 712/80, i.e. are the shipping?
Thanks for any info,
Brian Hess
bnh@active.com
From: tauber@muc.de (Karl Tauber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9 GXE L12 PCI with NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
Date: 10 Aug 1994 00:34:44 +0200
Organization: MUC.DE e.V. - Individual Network in Muenchen (Munich)
Message-ID: <3290a4$78@colin.muc.de>
Does the #9 GXE L12 PCI graphics adapter work with the VL-Bus driver of
NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2?
Karl Tauber
(tauber@goofy.muc.de)
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs. 712/80
Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:11:50 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <328uv6$dk1@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <1994Aug9.035636.20982@nntpxfer.psi.com>
In article <1994Aug9.035636.20982@nntpxfer.psi.com> bnh@active (Brian Hess) writes:
>1) Anybody know why the H-P 712/80 clock speed is 33% higher than the
>712/60, yet the benchmarks seem to indicate a 50% processor
>improvement? (H-P says 712/60 has 58 SPECint92 and 79 SPECfp92,
>versus 712/80i's 84 SPECint92 and 79 SPECfp92.)
The /80 also has larger caches, 256K vs. 64k on the /60.
>2) Why is the pricing more than 100% higher for that performance?
>(712/60 list $2590, 712/80 list $6140, base unit only.)
Dunno, I would assume it's what they figure the market will bear. I've
never known price/performance to be some sort of rational scale. The /80
is priced between the /60 and 7x5's. If you want a faster /60 or a cheaper
7x5, you can get a /80. If you're a developer with the 52% discount,
that takes a lot of the edge off forking out the cash for an 80.
>3) Finally, has one of you actually bought a 712/80, i.e. are the shipping?
I ordered one around the end of April, and it arrived the last week of
June. Overall, I am very happy with the machine; NEXTSTEP is delightful
on it - a worthy appendage to my cube :)
--
|: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :|
|: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
From: blake@santafe.santafe.edu (Blake LeBaron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: notebooks for nextstep
Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:20:14 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <328veu$1me@tierra.santafe.ede>
I'm looking for an up to date list of 486 notebooks that will
run nextstep.
Also, I'm interested in any vendors that are selling notebooks
with nextstep preloaded.
---
Blake LeBaron
blake@santafe.edu
--
blake@santafe.edu Blake LeBaron
Santa Fe Institute
Voice: 1399 Hyde Park Road
(505) 984-8800 Santa Fe, NM 87501
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs. 712/80
Date: 9 Aug 1994 11:26:48 -0700
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute
Message-ID: <328hp8$po5@darkstar.isi.edu>
References: <1994Aug9.035636.20982@nntpxfer.psi.com> <1994Aug9.162609.29257@nntpxfer.psi.com>
In article <1994Aug9.162609.29257@nntpxfer.psi.com> bnh@active (Brian Hess) writes:
>OK, so I can't calculate -- it's really 45% improvement, not 50%.
>Also, a later version of H-P specs (for the 712/80 now, not 712/80i) says:
>712/60: 58.1 SPECint92, 79 SPECfp92, 73 MIPS, 12.8MFLOPS(DP)
>712/80: 84.3 SPECint92, 122 SPECfp92, 92 MIPS, 15.6 MFLOPS(DP)
>
>Still, I don't understand how the hardware can be identical except for
>33% clock speed (and a 100% difference in price) -- is there some
>fancy cache on the /80 or something to give the extra performance
>boost?
>
>Brian Hess
>bnh@active.com
Yep, there is a difference in cache: both machines have direct mapped,
shared I+D external caches, but the 60 has 64K while the 80 has 256K.
From reading the specifications in HP's glossy literature, that is the
only difference (in particular, memory bus bandwidth is the same for
both machines).
This probably explains the extra performance.
cheers,
--mike
From: rdf@arad.ucsd.edu (Ronald D. Fellman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Wanted: Hayes ISDN Apadter for NeXT
Date: 9 Aug 1994 20:44:10 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, University of California at San Diego
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <328pqq$51h@deadmin.ucsd.edu>
I am interested in buying a Hayes ISDN adapter for my old NeXT.
Please respond to me at: rfellman@ucsd.edu
Phone: 619-534-4913
Thanks,
-ron
(Ronald D. Fellman)
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 GXE L12 PCI with NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
Date: 10 Aug 1994 00:55:17 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <3298hl$671@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <3290a4$78@colin.muc.de>
In article <3290a4$78@colin.muc.de> tauber@muc.de (Karl Tauber) writes:
>
> Does the #9 GXE L12 PCI graphics adapter work with the VL-Bus driver of
> NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2?
>
> Karl Tauber
> (tauber@goofy.muc.de)
Yes, on my DELL P5-90 system. It needs to have the correct RAMDAC and PCI
configuration, though. Call your vendor, preferably one that understands
NeXTStep. Without it, it is close to hopeless.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Date: 10 Aug 1994 01:37:16 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <329b0c$4ft@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net>
In article <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net> brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten)
writes:
> Michael Ingram (ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com) wrote:
> : I am thinking about purchasing a Micron P90 system in about 2 to 3
weeks and I would appreciate any
> : comments regarding Micron computers, service, reliability, and any
hardware I list below:
>
> This system is based on the Micronics P54-90 motherboard which I just
got.
> So far it works great! Very fast.
>
> : Tower Configuration
> : 90 MHz Pentium
> : 512K cache
> : 32 Meg RAM
> :
>
> : 21" Monitor: NEC 6FGp or Nanao T660i
> : NEC 3xi CD-ROM drive
>
>
> : Not sure about the following as far as hardware and/or availible
drivers:
>
> : Fast-SCSI 2 PCI card
>
> I am waiting for the Talus drive for the Adaptec 2940. Should be
> available sometime this month.(late)
> Adaptec has the best configuration software (in their roms), and is a
> great performer.
We don't sell vapor so I won't comment on this one :-))
>
> : ATI Turbo Graphics 64-bit w/ 4Meg VRAM
>
> I got the Diamond Stealth 64 pro and the #9 gxe pro, both Vram, both 4
> megs. I like the construction of the #9 board better, but the WinDoze
> drivers for it suck. The Diamond has better windoze software. They
> benchmark identically under NS. The #9 software for Dos/Windoze was
very
> dissapointing, none of the advertised features were available either on
> the install disks or on their bbs. Also, it looks as if #9 has opted
for
> a new color DAC replacing the Brooktree part with a cheap TI part. The
> picture suffers noticeably because of this (distortion at the extreme
> edges), the Diamond Card has a Brooktree ramdac so I chose the Diamond
> over the #9.
>
> Talus has/will have a driver soon for the ATI, but I don't think it
will
> be a significantly better card than either the #9 or the Diamond, both
of
> which use the S3 964 chip which is a real screamer.
Hmmm....1152x896 in 32-bit color for the ATI and beta testers have told us
that is "out-screams" the Diamond :-)
> You may be interested in the other features of the motherboard.
> : Again any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
The Micron motherboards rank second only to the Gateways in the complaints
we've gotten. Before you happy Micron owners flame me, let me say that
the boards vary in architecture (which is part of the problem) and some
may work great. I personally wouldn't take the gamble. (and if you buy a
Gateway, don't say we didn't warn you :-)
> : Also, I need the address and phone number for TALUS. I hear they are a
good source for drivers and
> : hardware.
Maybe this should go in NeXT Answers ;-)
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
Voice: (713) 578-1434
Fax: (713) 578-1815
Email: info@talus.com (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: AMI Enterprise IV NS 3.2 Compatible?
Message-ID: <CuAzCu.Go5@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 05:02:53 GMT
I plan to assemble the following system for NS 3.2 User+Development
and welcome comments about *any* of these items:
AMI Enterprise IV with 32MRAM
Number Nine GXEL16
BusLogic 747S
Micropolis CM4110(I could be talked into an MC2217 if the storage gain
outweighs the loss of access time)
Toshiba XM3401B(if this drive still has CD Player problems, then I am
open to other SCSI-2 drive suggestions such as the Texel DM3028,
Chinon CDS-535, or NEC CDR-84-1)
TEAC 1.44 & 1.2
Northgate Omnikey Ultra
Logitech Cordless
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: psaeli@netcom.com (Philip Saeli)
Subject: digital audio adapter for DSP port
Message-ID: <psaeliCuAzM2.FLy@netcom.com>
Summary: looking for S/PDIF or AES/EBU adapter for NeXT DSP port
Keywords: S/PDIF AES/EBU digital audio DSP port
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 05:08:25 GMT
Anyone know where I can get a digital audio interface that will allow digital
audio I/O via S/PDIF or AES/EBU interfaces to a NeXT DSP port? I'm mostly
interested in hardware and docs, though 56K sources and/or c code would also
be useful. Compiled applications would not be useful since I'm writing my own
code.
Thanks!
Phil Saeli psaeli@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Question on cleaning those darn optical drives
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.233833.27928@miavx1>
From: jbfink@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Deus Ex Machina)
Date: 9 Aug 94 23:38:33 -0500
Organization: Students for a Discordant Society
Hallo, Mr. Clueless Newbie turned NeXT enthusiast here again with another
situation.
We have many very old NeXT cubes. For years and years their fans have been
turned the INCORRECT way, so dust and all have been sucked through their
optical drives. Could some kind genius soul out there please e-mail me their
preferred guidlines/hints as to how to remove and clean these beasts?
Thank you very much indeed.
Please direct e-mail on this subject to admin@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu. Thanks
again!
-- adder
jbfink@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <cfctech!network.cfc.com!t6882tm@msen.com>
From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills (Anatec))
Message-ID: <9408091615.AA03568@network.cfc.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:15:15 -0400
Subject: good, fast, reliable laser printer
I want to purchase a good, fast, high resolution laser printer for use with my
Pentium machine running NEXTSTEP. I want high reliability and many
trouble-free years of use. Price is, however, an object. What choices do I
have that could compete in all these aspects with an HP LaserJet 4M+? Or is
that definitely THE way to go?
Thanks.
---
Timothy Mills fax: (810) 948-3342
work: (810) 948-4959
t6882tm@network.cfc.com
NeXTmail welcomed!
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help, Keyboard not recognized!
Date: 10 Aug 1994 12:20:39 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32agmn$fvf@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <19940809.123531.202091.NETNEWS@VM1.ULG.AC.BE>
In article <19940809.123531.202091.NETNEWS@VM1.ULG.AC.BE> writes:
> I!ve had the same problem with an Intel (OEM) Pentium 90
> motherboard : everything goes fine but the keyboard never
> gets recognized though the mouse works (this is not
> sufficient to go past the login panel unfortunately).
> A NEXT vendor told us he had faced the same problem with
> some customer-owned 486 motherboards, and solved it by...
> selling them a new motherboard.
>
> I!d be interested in a cleaner solution too...
>
> vmin
The solution that worked for us is to boot up with config=Default (or not,
come to think of it... that isn't the important part!), then use the mouse
to remove the PS/2 mouse driver.
The NeXTAnswers document on keyboard support mentions something
about the PS/2 driver interfering with the keyboard - all I know is that
removing it lets the keyboard work. How did you get a login panel up
(password set) without keyboard support? Disk-to-disk build, I suppose.
You may have to do a new CD-ROM build to get this solution to work.
I don't know if the new (V2) keyboard/mouse drivers fix this yet
or not... I am currently doing the 'Intel BIOS rev blues shuffle'. See if
I _ever_ send my one working test motherboard off to Moscow again!
Good luck,
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: S.A.Kruger@cm.cf.ac.uk (S A Kruger)
Subject: PCI SCSI working with Talus NCR driver
Message-ID: <1994Aug10.133059.25184@cm.cf.ac.uk>
Sender: S.A.Kruger@cm.cf.ac.uk (S A Kruger)
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff
References: <1994Aug1.204253.15519@free.fdn.org> <31s96e$6r6@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:30:56 +0000
Greetings,
I'm looking for a list of PCI SCSI cards that work with
Talus NCR driver..
I will repost my findings,
Thanks - Stefan
scmsak@cm.cf.ac.uk
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From: steve@ion.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP! problems with parallel port and HP deskjet
Date: 10 Aug 1994 13:54:10 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32am62$lig@larry.rice.edu>
Hi. I have an HP Deskjet 560C connected (parallel port) to a 486/66 running
NeXTStep. I'm using Ghostscript to produce the output (since it looks better
than Dots). I'm running into a problem that appears to be with the parallel
port. 75% of the time it prints ok, but when I do something that takes a
particularly long time to print (graphics the full width of the page) I run
into problems. It will start printing fine, then at a random point in the page
it will start printing gibberish text (with the occasional form feed...). That
is, it appears to have been kicked out of graphics mode and back into text
mode. At first I figured it was a problem with ghostscript (although the errors
seemed pretty random to be that). So, I generated a HP560C graphics file with
windows then tried piping it directly to the parallel port in NeXTStep. The
same problem occurs. It looks to me like there's a bug in the parallel port
driver which is occasionally losing characters...
Any suggestions as to the cause or possible fixes for this problem would be
greatly appreciated.
I'll note that the Dots demo didn't seem to have any problems (although I only
printed a couple of pages. Btw - if you have an HP Deskjet I would highly
reccommend Ghostscript. With a little tweaking the GS driver seems to do a much
better job of reproducing screen colors and producing smooth output.
Please reply via email. I will summarize to the net.
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From: Milo Velimirovic <milov@uwlax.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 GXE L12 PCI with NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:34:51 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32as2r$465@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>
References: <3298hl$671@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <3298hl$671@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
> In article <3290a4$78@colin.muc.de> tauber@muc.de (Karl Tauber) writes:
> >
> > Does the #9 GXE L12 PCI graphics adapter work with the VL-Bus driver of
> > NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2?
> >
> > Karl Tauber
> > (tauber@goofy.muc.de)
>
> Yes, on my DELL P5-90 system. It needs to have the correct RAMDAC and PCI
> configuration, though. Call your vendor, preferably one that understands
> NeXTStep. Without it, it is close to hopeless.
>
The Computer Science Dept. here just got some Dell Dimension XPS P90's and I
have been having a rough time getting NS 3.2 installed on them. The Install
program goes through the dialog and then displays the pseudo-bar chart to
monitor disk preparation and crashes after the third dot of the chart with a
Kernel Panic
Screen looks like this:
/private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 18435 at offset 0: mangled entry
mode = 077430, inum 18437, fs = /private/tmp/mnta
panic:(Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc
panic: NeXT Mach 3.2 Mon Oct 18 ... 1993 ....
kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
and the show is all over.
Dell tech support says that it's a definite no-go because of the 540 Mb
"enhanced IDE" disks. The P90's also have PCI #9GXE cards in them. Any ideas
or suggestions gratefully appreciated.
Milo
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Information Technology,
Consulting and Support Services
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
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From: balu@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Help: Booting problem (Gateway 2000)
Message-ID: <1994Aug10.154517.9903@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 15:45:17 GMT
Hi,
I messed up while trying to set up the network on the GateWay 2000. i am not able to boot the system even when I use config=Default. It keeps saying waiting for remote debugger connection. Is there anthing I can do to boot the system and change network set up. Or do I need to erase the disk and reload NextStep.Any suggestion will be gretly helpful
Thanks
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on IBM ThinkPad 500?
Message-ID: <Aug.10.15.51.58.1994.27701@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 10 Aug 94 19:51:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Ever since I saw QVC selling the IBM thinkpad for $999 for 4megs RAM and 170meg
HD, Ive been tempted to get it... Particularly since it can go from 7-9 hours
on a single battery. So the question is, if I up the ram to 8megs will I be
able to run NS on it?
Later, & thanks, John
From: jaeger@dbulm1.uucp (Stefan Jaeger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Message-ID: <1994Aug10.184146.625@dbulm1.uucp>
Date: 10 Aug 94 18:41:46 +0100
Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm
I'm searching for a Digitiser, Tablet,... which can be
connected to a NeXTstation.
We want to record the pen movement during writing.
If anybody has some information, I would be happy if
he could post it into this group or answer directly to
jaeger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <32bfml$9n@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Control: cancel <32bfml$9n@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: 10 Aug 1994 21:10:08 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
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<32bfml$9n@news.acns.nwu.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
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From: rtthomas@acs.ucalgary.ca (R. Todd Thomas)
Subject: Noisy fan ... solutions?
Summary: fan noisy solution
Message-ID: <Aug10.213434.20048@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 21:34:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
I have a NS Color Turbo and the fan lately has been getting more
and more noisy (not that it was very quiet in the first place...)
I took a look at the fan but could not see how it is supposed to
come apart. What can be done? Can I take it apart and oil it? Can
I just buy a new fan? If so, where can I get a new fan from for a
good price?
Thanks in advance for any info.
Todd Thomas
todd@avocado.cuc.ab.ca [NeXTMail]
rtthomas@acs.ucalgary.ca
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: modem from hell..HELP!
Date: 10 Aug 1994 18:45:18 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <32b77u$8u6@mailer.fsu.edu>
I have a Hayes Smartmodem 2400.
I have a '040 Cube running NS2.1x.
I have a FAQ written by Mark Adler.
I have kermit.
I keep getting
/dev/cua: Device busy
link down
It sounds like a cabling problem to me, but I ordered a brand
new cable from NeXTConnection (now PCconnection) and they said it
would work.
All I want to do is dial-out.
How do I talk to my modem?
Both the SysRef and the FAQ talk about configuring the modem,
but how do I do that?!?
Hit by the stupid stick again.
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lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
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From: dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What happened to 68060 upgrade rumors?
Date: 9 Aug 1994 23:53:15 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3294tb$74g@news.halcyon.com>
References: <326c8a$29n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
: The rumors about a forthcoming 68060 chip and plug in adaptor board for
: NeXT Motorolla hardware seem to have evaporated. Such an upgrade chip was
: supposed to come out sometime this summer. Has anybody heard any news?
I hadn't heard of that, but someone a little while ago posted that he was
evaluating a 040 50Mhz upgrade for NeXTstations....
David Sinn
dsinn@halcyon.com
From: mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: AMS Notebook + Docking Station + Adaptec 1542 Woes
Followup-To: poster
Date: 10 Aug 1994 13:44:33 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32alk1$qbs@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Greetings.
I have an interesting dilemma. I have an AMS notebook (486DX2-66, 20MB RAM,
~200MB HD) and the external docking station (EDS20SN). I also have an
Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller. I would like to use this SCSI controller to
install NeXTSTEP on the laptop.
In fact, I have done this before. And it was easy. In fact, it was the
exact same SCSI card and laptop, back in October, which were used to test out
NeXTSTEP for Intel. All I had to do was disable the floppy support on the
1542C, and all was right with the world.
So, a couple weeks ago, I tried it again. With absolutely **NO** success.
It appears that the laptop and the SCSI card no longer get along! The SCSI
card gets "Unexpected Response Timeout" or something like that at boot time.
If I use the "SCSI-Select" BIOS setup on the card, it gets "Unexpected
Timeout Occurred" scanning devices, and it gets "DMA Buffer Miscompare"
errors if I run host adapter diagnostics. This is not a cabling problem, as
the same errors occur whether or not I have any devices hooked to the card.
Here is what I tried:
* Two different laptops
* Upgrading to AMI BIOS 2.01 on both laptops
* Two different docking stations
* An Adaptec 1542B card in addition to the 1542C
* Putting each card in each of the two slots in each of the docking stations
* Two different SCSI cables
* Two different terminators
* Two different CDROM drives
* Two different hard drives
Needless to say, after a couple days of this, still nothing worked.
I called AMS, whose service rep suggested some BIOS tweaks, and gave me
pointers to their BBS to download a new flash BIOS.
I called Adaptec, who said this sounded like a busmastering problem.
I called AMS, where the same service rep said that he didn't think the
docking station did busmastering (which the Adaptec requires, I believe).
To make a long story short: WHY DOESN'T IT WORK NOW, AND HOW THE HECK DID IT
WORK 9 MONTHS AGO?????? :-(
I've posted this to comp.sys.laptops, because it's a laptop. :-)
I've posted this to comp.sys.next.hardware, because the AMS notebook used to
be one of the listed NeXTSTEP systems. And, doggone it, I HAD IT WORKING
FLAWLESSLY 9 MONTHS AGO!
*Any* and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated, so that I can get this
working and then tell the AMS guy what he needs to know (and should already
know, doggone it).
Please e-mail responses, as I'm up to my eyeballs in new equipment to be
deciphered and installed in the next two weeks, so I don't read news right
now. I've set the followup accordingly. ;-)
Thanks in advance, and my apologies for a longish posting.
- Mike
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From: Doug Moore
Subject: Wanted--BenchPress and NXBench results on ND's
Message-ID: <CuCK69.2ss@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 01:29:02 GMT
I want to compile the above benchmark results on 25 and 33mhz
NeXTdimension systems with varying amounts of memory. Mine is 32/32,
so I really don't need any turbo results for that config unless you
just want to share. :-)
Any ideas for benchmarks that will push the envelope of the ND card
are more than welcomed. I'm doing this because I am considering a
memory expansion...
Please NeXTmail the results to me.
Thanks
--
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St Paul, MN
612-227-3274
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From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks)
Subject: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ?
Message-ID: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de>
Keywords: DAT, Audio,SCSI, HP35480A
Sender: usenet@ilink.de
Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 01:12:31 GMT
Long ago there have been rumors that some SCSI DAT tapes support playing
and recording audio DATs (these are formatted differently then data-DAT
tapes)
Does anyone know anything about this ?
Is there any software that can can do this on capable drives ?
Does anyone have docs on the HP35480A Rev 9 09 or knows how to get them
from HP ? (The drive was OEM so it came with no docs at all)
Eike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
Message-ID: <1994Aug10.224340.1687@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 22:43:40 GMT
The original Maxtor 340 MB disk drive in my 68040 Cube died recently. It
just went "click" and spun down one day while I was using it. The
controller portion still identifies itself to the Cube, but the drive
doesn't spin up. Anyway, I removed it and I am now using an external SCSI
disk drive that luckily was my system disk anyway. The external SCSI
floppy drive has been giving me fits ever since I pulled the dead drive.
It has been brought to my attention that there needs to be internal SCSI
termination in the Cube somewhere. Does anyone know how to accomplish
this task, short of installing another disk drive? Does, or did, NeXT
provide some sort of internal SCSI terminator, other than that on the
Maxtor drive itself? Is there a termination jumper or something on the
68040 motherboard? Has anyone built an internal SCSI terminator for a
Cube?
Thanks for any suggestions.
--
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From: payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 72-pin SIMM on '040 Cube
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 23:36:37
Organization: System Technology, Inc.
Message-ID: <payne440.40.00179CF2@utw.com>
I went out and bought a 72-pin 16MB SIMM for my 'Cube. Well, stupid me
must've been brain-dead or somehing, because the damn thing is nowhere near
the right size as the slot on my mainboard (SIMM is a tad too long). What
needs to happen here? The product was advertised by Z-ram and Kensington as
being a 16MB upgrade for the 'Cube (discontinued part number) which superseded
to this little gem.
Can someone please tell me what's wrong? Im almost afraid to fear that isn't
a SIMM socket, but if not, what is it? How do I upgrade my memory? What's
the average airspeed velocity of an unladen sparrow?
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 72-pin SIMM on '040 Cube
Date: 11 Aug 1994 01:41:50 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
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References: <payne440.40.00179CF2@utw.com>
In article <payne440.40.00179CF2@utw.com> payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne) writes:
:I went out and bought a 72-pin 16MB SIMM for my 'Cube. Well, stupid me
:
:Can someone please tell me what's wrong? Im almost afraid to fear that isn't
:a SIMM socket, but if not, what is it? How do I upgrade my memory? What's
:the average airspeed velocity of an unladen sparrow?
:
Cube's use 30-pin SIMMs, NeXTstation colors use 72-pin If I remember
correctly. I have a cube so I know the first is true. Anyway, you need to
get 30 pin SIMMs, not 72-pin. While you're at it, make sure you buy them in
groups of 4 (i.e. get 4-4MB 30 pin SIMMs to add 16 MB)
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail temporarily offline
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From: aaron@algernon.tbyte.com (Aaron Greene)
Subject: Re: #9 GXE L 12 PCI with NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
Message-ID: <1994Aug11.050217.6758@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 05:02:17 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <32as2r$465@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> you
wrote:
> The Computer Science Dept. here just got some Dell Dimension XPS P90's
and I
> have been having a rough time getting NS 3.2 installed on them. The
Install
> program goes through the dialog and then displays the pseudo-bar chart
to
> monitor disk preparation and crashes after the third dot of the chart
with a
> Kernel Panic
> Screen looks like this:
> /private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 18435 at offset 0: mangled entry
> mode = 077430, inum 18437, fs = /private/tmp/mnta
> panic:(Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc
> panic: NeXT Mach 3.2 Mon Oct 18 ... 1993 ....
>
> kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
>
> and the show is all over.
>
> Dell tech support says that it's a definite no-go because of the 540 Mb
> "enhanced IDE" disks. The P90's also have PCI #9GXE cards in them. Any
ideas
> or suggestions gratefully appreciated.
>
> Milo
Yes, you are a definite no-go until 3.3 of NS. We have three of those
systems here and they all work fine if you use a SCSI drive. The problem
is the PCI IDE for the hard drives. Since 3.2 does not support PCI very
well, the IDE drives give all kinds of fits. Once you put a SCSI hard
drive in there, it will work fine. The video cards seem to work fine as
PCI. We have been getting the STB PCI cards and replacing them with
Diamond Viper PCI and it gives blazing speed. The new #9 64bit card
supposedly works great too. You just need to download the driver off
ftp.next.com. Let me know if the #9 board works well. I am going to try
one, and I am interested in personal opinions. If they don't work, Dell
customer service is pretty good about returning them without too many
questions. Also, you can order the Viper card from Dell for ~$365 which
is a pretty good price.
Good Luck,
Aaron Greene
Net Admin - Trilobyte
aaron@tbyte.com
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From: Doug Moore
Subject: Re: 72-pin SIMM on '040 Cube
Message-ID: <CuDGDH.2D1@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <32cdmu$sh8@acmex.gatech.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:11:25 GMT
Dave Rinker writes
> In article <payne440.40.00179CF2@utw.com> payne440@utw.com (Carl
Payne) writes:
> :I went out and bought a 72-pin 16MB SIMM for my 'Cube. Well,
stupid me
> :
> :Can someone please tell me what's wrong? Im almost afraid to fear
that isn't
> :a SIMM socket, but if not, what is it? How do I upgrade my
memory? What's
> :the average airspeed velocity of an unladen sparrow?
> :
> Cube's use 30-pin SIMMs, NeXTstation colors use 72-pin If I
remember
> correctly. I have a cube so I know the first is true. Anyway, you
need to
> get 30 pin SIMMs, not 72-pin. While you're at it, make sure you
buy them in
> groups of 4 (i.e. get 4-4MB 30 pin SIMMs to add 16 MB)
Turbo Cube's use 72-pin SIMMs, in 2 banks of 2
--
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St Paul, MN
612-227-3274
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From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What happened to 68060 upgrade rumors?
Date: 11 Aug 1994 13:37:57 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32d9jl$r0f@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
References: <326c8a$29n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <3294tb$74g@news.halcyon.com>
In article <3294tb$74g@news.halcyon.com> F. David Sinn (dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com) wrote:
:>Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
:>: The rumors about a forthcoming 68060 chip and plug in adaptor board for
:>: NeXT Motorolla hardware seem to have evaporated. Such an upgrade chip was
:>: supposed to come out sometime this summer. Has anybody heard any news?
:>I hadn't heard of that, but someone a little while ago posted that he was
:>evaluating a 040 50Mhz upgrade for NeXTstations....
I think it was Sam Golberger (Spherical) who was testing it, and I believe it
would only fit in cubes because of space problems.
But I could be wrong. :)
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From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
Date: 11 Aug 1994 16:10:15 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <32dih7$kt7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1994Aug10.224340.1687@radical2.radical.com>
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Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) writes:
>It has been brought to my attention that there needs to be internal SCSI
>termination in the Cube somewhere. Does anyone know how to accomplish
>this task, short of installing another disk drive? Does, or did, NeXT
>provide some sort of internal SCSI terminator, other than that on the
>Maxtor drive itself? Is there a termination jumper or something on the
>68040 motherboard? Has anyone built an internal SCSI terminator for a
>Cube?
How about changing the SCSI id of the dead Maxtor so that it is higher than
the id of your external boot drive. Sure, it's a pretty big and heavy
terminator, but if you don't have any other use for it :-)
Send me a mail if you need to know which jumpers set the SCSI id.
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From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Subject: Changing block size on Quantum 540
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.213557.255@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 21:35:57 GMT
When I use sdformat v1.1 to change the block size of
a new Quantum 540 I just acquired from APS, I get
the following:
zandtwerk> sdformat -b1024 -v
[...]
MODE SENSE
Medium Type: 00h
Write Protect: No
Block Descriptor Length = 8
Density Code: Default (only one density supported)
Number of Blocks = 1057616
Block Length = 512
You have requested a change in the Block Length from 512 bytes to 1024 bytes.
Are you sure? y
Mode Sense...
Mode Select...
sr_io_status = 0x3 "check status, sr_esense not valid"
SCSI status = 02H "Check Condition"
Sense key = 0x5, "Illegal Request"
Additional = 0x26
I am running NS 3.0 on a Nextstation Turbo.
Thanks.
Tim
From: lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (David Lim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStep on Pentium Ambra machines?
Date: 11 Aug 1994 17:05:13 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Message-ID: <LIM.94Aug11100513@brian.jpl.nasa.gov>
I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.2 on a Ambra 60 MHz Pentium machine. I'm
using a Adaptec 1542CF SCSI adaptor with a Sun CD-ROM attached at SCSI ID 0. I
have the driver update disk from NeXT for the 1542CF. When I try to load in
the updated driver I get the message:
"No drivers found on the disk"
Yet the machine read the configuration boot disk enough to get to that point.
I also tried using an internal IDE CD-ROM drive. The machine failed to find
the CD-ROM. Are internal IDE CD-ROMs supported for installing NeXTStep?
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What happened to 68060 upgrade rumors?
Date: 11 Aug 1994 16:59:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <32dlcn$m02@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <326c8a$29n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <3294tb$74g@news.halcyon.com> <32d9jl$r0f@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes:
>In article <3294tb$74g@news.halcyon.com> F. David Sinn (dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com) wrote:
>:>Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
>:>: The rumors about a forthcoming 68060 chip and plug in adaptor board for
>:>: NeXT Motorolla hardware seem to have evaporated. Such an upgrade chip was
>:>: supposed to come out sometime this summer. Has anybody heard any news?
>:>I hadn't heard of that, but someone a little while ago posted that he was
>:>evaluating a 040 50Mhz upgrade for NeXTstations....
> I think it was Sam Golberger (Spherical) who was testing it, and I believe it
>would only fit in cubes because of space problems.
> But I could be wrong. :)
Matt Brandt has been owrking on the '060 upgrade board. Apparently from my info
it's moving along fine, but he won't discuss details until pricing and technicalstuff is nailed down.
Haven't heard from Sam, lately; everything OK, Sam?
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From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: modem from hell..HELP!
Message-ID: <Aug11.170954.37405@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 17:09:54 GMT
References: <32b77u$8u6@mailer.fsu.edu>
Organization: Paranoids United
In article <32b77u$8u6@mailer.fsu.edu>,
Peter S. Lakanen <lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu> wrote:
>I have a Hayes Smartmodem 2400.
>I have a '040 Cube running NS2.1x.
>
>I have a FAQ written by Mark Adler.
>I have kermit.
>
>I keep getting
>/dev/cua: Device busy
>link down
>
>It sounds like a cabling problem to me, but I ordered a brand
>new cable from NeXTConnection (now PCconnection) and they said it
>would work.
>
>All I want to do is dial-out.
>
>How do I talk to my modem?
>
>Both the SysRef and the FAQ talk about configuring the modem,
>but how do I do that?!?
>
>Hit by the stupid stick again.
>
>
>--
>========================================================================
>Peter Lakanen | I AM CLUB DJ. I AM A RE-MIXER. I USE A NeXT.
>lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
>(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
>========================================================================
You need to edit some system files. /etc/ttys needs the entry for ttydfa
changed to:
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D19200" vt100 off
(this is assuming you want hardware flow control and are using the A
port for your modem). While you are at it, you may want to remove
the keyword "secure" from any entries that have it, unless you want
to be able to dial in & do system stuff.
/etc/remote also needs editing. Here's the edited lines from mine:
cufa19200|Dial-out on cufa at 19200 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufa:br#19200:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
cub9600|Dial-out on cub at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cub:br#9600:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
ttya9600|Hardwire on cua at 2400 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#2400:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
ttyb9600|Hardwire on ttyb at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/ttyb:br#9600:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
You may also need top change the permissions on cufa in the /dev file.
Hope this works for you.
david
---------
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From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Subject: Cron script for turning off printer
Message-ID: <1994Aug10.160418.21119@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 16:04:18 GMT
I would like a script I can use to shut of the NeXT
printer periodically, because I use it infrequently.
If I just execute nppower off, it first turns on the
printer if it is already off, and this is an annoying
thing to have happen every hour. Thus, the script
for check whether the printer is on and not in use,
and then execute nppower off.
Thanks.
Tim
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Dept. of Economics, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: modem from hell..HELP!
Date: 11 Aug 1994 17:57:23 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <32doq3$6e3@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <32b77u$8u6@mailer.fsu.edu> <Aug11.170954.37405@acs.ucalgary.ca>
>> You need to edit some system files. /etc/ttys needs the entry for ttydfa
...
>> /etc/remote also needs editing. Here's the edited lines from mine:
No such changes are needed in order to dial out with kermit. /etc/ttys
only affects dial-ins (and is disabled as shipped), and /etc/remote
only affects the tip command.
mark
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From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Subject: Cheapest CD-ROM drive for Nextstation?
Message-ID: <1994Aug9.183938.25044@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 18:39:38 GMT
It is time to load NS 3.2, and there is nobody around
to borrow a CD-ROM from this time.
What is the cheapest CD-ROM drive that works with
a Nextstation? Speed doesn't matter match, as it
will mainly be used for loading software.
I tried an NEC CDR-25BJ and it didn't work on my
NeXT.
I would also be willing to buy a cheap used drive.
Thanks.
Tim
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: CDROM ?'s
Message-ID: <CuDsyJ.HzE@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 17:37:30 GMT
Teac Makes a 2X CDROM - is it black?
Teac Makes a 4X CDROM - is it black?
Plextor makes a 4X CDROM for $445 - does it work on NeXT HW?
If you know, please respond. Otherwise, not. Please, no
verbose null conversation.
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTStep on Pentium Ambra machines?
Date: 11 Aug 1994 15:21:53 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9408111932.AA00533@hurka>
In article <LIM.94Aug11100513@brian.jpl.nasa.gov> David Lim writes:
> I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.2 on a Ambra 60 MHz
> Pentium machine. I'm using a Adaptec 1542CF SCSI adaptor
> with a Sun CD-ROM attached at SCSI ID 0. I have the driver
> update disk from NeXT for the 1542CF. When I try to load
> in the updated driver I get the message:
> "No drivers found on the disk"
The driver must be on NeXT-formatted floppy in directory /usr/Devices
The NS istallation with external SCSI driver is not simple.
See also NA #1541 "Installation Requiring Adaptec Driver Update",
which should be useful.
> I also tried using an internal IDE CD-ROM drive. The
> machine failed to find the CD-ROM. Are internal IDE
> CD-ROMs supported for installing NeXTStep?
As far as I know, they are not supported.
Hope it helps.
Best regards,
Tomas Hurka
tom@huaktronic.cz
From: montyb@lgipex.mlo.dec.com (Monty Brandenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTprinter question: envelopes & knobs
Date: 11 Aug 1994 20:00:04 GMT
Organization: DEC Alpha Personal Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32e004$ev5@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
Yes, I know this was covered before but I'm a new printer owner
and I couldn't find the relevant information in the FAQ's
available to me and my docs are all packed away from a
move.... So,
1. How to print on business envelopes with the
NeXTprinter?
2. What, precisely, does the graduated knob
under the access cover do?
3. Is the roller wiper that comes with the toner
cartridge to be installed on the printer? I couldn't
find an appropriate receptor for it so I hope that
it is HP-only...
tnx
monty
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From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre)
Subject: Compaq XE 560 -SUMMARY-
Message-ID: <dalCuE19y.3HJ@netcom.com>
Keywords: Compaq,Intel
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 20:37:09 GMT
>>> 1. NS only recognizes 16mb of the 40mb of memory.
Log in as root and proceed to /usr/Devices/system.config
and open as a folder.
double click on Instance0.table
Edit the "Kernel Flags" line where it says "Kernel Flags" = ""; to
"Kernel Flags" = "maxmem=40960";
or whatever amount of memory you have installed x 1024 ...
( i.e 20 megs would be 20480 and so on ... )
( This is the amount of memory the Compaq counts to when you turn it on )
Save and reboot ... it should then recognize all 40 megs.
>>> 2. I installed the new QVision driver (1.1) and no matter what screen
size I set it at, it always is 640x480. (I have 2mb VRAM)
Remove the QVision driver from the display option in Configure and select
the default VGA driver and save. Reboot into standard VGA and install the
new driver by double clicking on the package and using the Opener.app
( loading directly into configure does not work yet with this driver. )
Select the new mode with the new QVision driver ... save and reboot.
> Unfortunately this didn't work, as Compaq switched video chips on me.
The video chip that was sent to the NeXT QVision driver developers in their
Compaq XE 560 was a BrookTree chip. If you open up your Compaq and look
at the chip in the far back left (looking from the front of the box),
this is the video chip. My Compaq XE 560 has an AT&T video chip, which
is not yet compatible with the Compaq QVision driver (even 1.1). I get
intermittent crashes with the video, and can only use 800x600 color.
NeXT should be coming out with a new QVision driver soon.
>>> 3. The Compaq Business Audio doesn't work. I have no idea what
to set the DMA and IRQ at, or what port addresses I should be using.
Use the MS Windows Sound System Driver, not the Compaq Business
Audio driver.
I've set mine to DMA 3, IRQ 9, port address 0x530, but experiment.
Thanks to the following people:
Mark_Tacchi@NeXT.COM
Greg_Goodrich@NeXT.COM
root@damonc.tor.hookup.net
I've gotten incredible support from NeXT (thanks Mark) and nothing but
good things to say about them. I just hope the new QVision driver comes
out soon.
Dana Letendre
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From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Help: keyboard not recognized!
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 16:37:09 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Aug11.163709.29740@bilver.oau.org>
References: <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> <32598i$5t0@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
In article <32598i$5t0@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>,
Lars Konieczny <lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:
>In article <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
>lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
>> In article <320ooj$73s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
>> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
>> > Hi,
>> > after I have successfully installed NS-FIP, my keyboard is not
>> > recognized from within NS. I tried it with a Fujitsu and with a
>> > Cherry keyboard, but no response.
>Thanks to all who tried to help me. Finally, I could get the machine
>running: I only had to remove the PS/2 mouse driver. Special thanks
>to Jason McNamara at Talus, who sent the solution!
>A note to NeXT: please fix this, or at least add a note in the
>installation guide!
I had the same problem and found it in either the installation
notes, the addtional readmes, or the NeXTAnswers.
When I called on something else I told them this should be
placed PROMINENTLY in the documentation.
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From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Help: keyboard not recognized!
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 16:59:12 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Aug11.165912.353@bilver.oau.org>
References: <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> <325fvv$77f@blkbox.blkbox.com>
In article <325fvv$77f@blkbox.blkbox.com>, Dan Kramer <dan@talus.com> wrote:
>In article <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
>lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
>> In article <320ooj$73s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
>> lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) writes:
>> > after I have successfully installed NS-FIP, my keyboard is not
>> > recognized from within NS. I tried it with a Fujitsu and with a
>> > Cherry keyboard, but no response.
>This is covered in the NextAnswers doc on keyboard support. I am unsure
>whether the new keyboard/mouse drivers on the ftp site fix this, but
>currently the PS/2 mouse driver interferes with keyboard support on some
>systems with non-standard PS/2 mouse hardware implementations.
>Solution that worked for me, on our Plato board:
> boot up with config=Default.
> using mouse only, remove the PS/2 mouse driver from config.app.
> reboot with normal config
> keyboard should now work normally
>I will test this with the new keyboard/mouse drivers shortly.
My problem was the keboard AND THE MOUSE were unresponsive.
config=Default did not work!! The mouse is a Logitech bus
mouse.
I specfically had set the config line, as in the manual, so it
has the bus-mouse driver and no ps2, and then removed it.
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From: neal@orpheus.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Neal Adams)
Subject: Rejuvinating NeXT CRTs.
Message-ID: <CuE67E.Apv@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:23:37 GMT
We're looking for the pinout for the connector on th CRT in NeXT monitors
so a rejunivator can be connected to the CRT. IF anyone has this
information it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Please send e-mail to: neal@slac.stanford.edu
--
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Technical Coordinator SLAC Computing Services
The opinions expressed are not SLAC's, the DOE's or Stanford University's.
From: payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: re: re: 72-Pin SIMMs
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 18:38:09
Organization: System Technology, Inc.
Message-ID: <payne440.42.0012A353@utw.com>
Okay, I kinda figured the 30-pin deal right. The problem is, there's IN
ADDITION a 72-pin SIMM socket on the board (just 1 though). Z-ram and
Kensington both said they had a 1-chip upgrade at one time. Now, the socket
almost looks like it accepts a 4x32 SIMM instead of the more common 4x36,
which I originally got. Since the 30-pinners are non-parity (8 chip), then
maybe a 4x32 would work. If you have a 'Cube, what are you using that socket
for?
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: re: 72-Pin SIMMs
Date: 11 Aug 1994 20:33:27 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu
Message-ID: <32eg0n$32d@acmez.gatech.edu>
References: <payne440.42.0012A353@utw.com>
In article <payne440.42.0012A353@utw.com> payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne) writes:
:Okay, I kinda figured the 30-pin deal right. The problem is, there's IN
:ADDITION a 72-pin SIMM socket on the board (just 1 though). Z-ram and
:Kensington both said they had a 1-chip upgrade at one time. Now, the socket
:almost looks like it accepts a 4x32 SIMM instead of the more common 4x36,
:which I originally got. Since the 30-pinners are non-parity (8 chip), then
:maybe a 4x32 would work. If you have a 'Cube, what are you using that socket
:for?
That extra 72-pin socket is for additional memory for a DSP. The only use
is if you do a lot of work with your DSP.
--
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CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
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From: jtodd@greyfox.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sun 72pin SIMMs=NeXT 72pin SIMMs?
Date: 12 Aug 1994 02:20:34 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <32em9i$cu4@news1.digex.net>
Summary: Question about NeXT Color memory
Keywords: Sparc 10, SIMM, NeXT, memory, Albatross
I am fairly certain that I will be buying a color machine "real soon now"
and I want to put at least 32 megs of memory into it. It's a 25 mhz version
with 8 slots, and of course that means I have to put 72-pin SIMMs into it
(preferably 70ns or less) to make it happy.
Does the Sun Sparc 10 take the same type of memory? Or is it a completely
different animal? Will my NeXT non-Turbo Colorstation take sixteen meg
chips if I can dig some up? Or will it choke on them? I haven't ever even
seen the two memory types up against each other in comparison, so I don't
know if they even are physically similar other than being described as "72
pin," so please no flames. I'm just trying to patch together a decent
machine on a shoestring. :)
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From: balu@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Help : Mail problem
Message-ID: <1994Aug12.024750.19121@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 02:47:50 GMT
Hi,
I am running NeXTStep on Gateway 2000_66v with a 3COM card.
Problem: I am able to receive mail from others but cannot send mail. Any mail I send gets back saying
While connected to mailhost:
>>> HELO lsu13e.nsls.bnl.gov
<<< 553 lsu13e.nsls.bnl.gov config error: mail loops back to myself
Any Idea what is going on ?. Also I ran autonfsmount and I get a message on the console saying Master yp map: args to yp function are bad.
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Balu
From: sunnytiger@aol.com (SunnyTiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 6x60 Drivers
Date: 12 Aug 1994 00:41:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <32eugu$8ab@search01.news.aol.com>
I noticed that there are new drivers for the Adaptec 6x60 SCSI
chips. Does anyone know if these drivers will work with a 6360
chip on a Zeos brand motherboard?
JA
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From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Message-ID: <CuEtGs.1Jx@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
References: <1994Aug10.184146.625@dbulm1.uucp>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 06:46:03 GMT
Stefan Jaeger writes
>
> I'm searching for a Digitiser, Tablet,... which can be
> connected to a NeXTstation.
> We want to record the pen movement during writing.
>
> If anybody has some information, I would be happy if
> he could post it into this group or answer directly to
>
> jaeger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM
>
You were not too clear in your message. Do you want to know what tablets
work with a NeXTstation, or you want to buy one?
If you are looking for compatible tablets, you'll be happy to know that
since v3.1 NEXTSTEP has had a little app called InstallTablet.app which
supports the following WACOM Tablets attached to serial port B:
o SD-210
o SD-310
o SD-311
o SD-312
o SD-320
o SD-321
o SD-322
o SD-420
o SD-421
o SD-422
o SD-510B
o SD-510C
All these tablets have the serial interface not the ADB inteface. You can
use a regular or pressure sensitive pen or a puck.
I hope this helps.
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
PGP key available on request.
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From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler)
Subject: Re: 6x60 Drivers
Message-ID: <rbzCuFADz.DIA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <32eugu$8ab@search01.news.aol.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 12:51:34 GMT
sunnytiger@aol.com (SunnyTiger) writes:
>I noticed that there are new drivers for the Adaptec 6x60 SCSI
>chips. Does anyone know if these drivers will work with a 6360
>chip on a Zeos brand motherboard?
Where did you "notice" them?
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======================================================
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======================================================
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help : Mail problem
Date: 12 Aug 1994 03:13:31 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu
Message-ID: <32f7er$c98@acmez.gatech.edu>
References: <1994Aug12.024750.19121@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
In article <1994Aug12.024750.19121@news.cs.brandeis.edu> balu@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
:Hi,
: I am running NeXTStep on Gateway 2000_66v with a 3COM card.
:Problem: I am able to receive mail from others but cannot send mail. Any mail I send gets back saying
:While connected to mailhost:
:>>> HELO lsu13e.nsls.bnl.gov
:<<< 553 lsu13e.nsls.bnl.gov config error: mail loops back to myself
:
I experienced this problem on Black hardware -- the sendmail that ships
with NeXTStep apparently does not conform to standards -- try compiling
sendmail.8.6.9 from ftd.std.com, that seems to take care of all my problems.
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail temporarily offline
From: jan@altus.no (Jan Bratbak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Syquest 270mb 3.5" removable HD
Date: 12 Aug 1994 14:54:22 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <32g2eu$7dr@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Hi,
I only get 221 mb of formatted space on these 270 mb cartridges. It seams
like loosing 50 mb in the formatting phase is a bit too much. Does anyone
have any experience with this type of drive?
Jan
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From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: toshiba laptops that run ns?
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 16:33:43 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
does anyone know if the following system supports NeXTSTEP?
toshiba 4800CT
(it's a laptop w/ docking station)
thanks.
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: ambi@kaizen.com (Mike Amirault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 6x60 Drivers
Date: 12 Aug 1994 16:42:50 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <32g8qa$s6o@news.bu.edu>
References: <32eugu$8ab@search01.news.aol.com>
In article <32eugu$8ab@search01.news.aol.com> sunnytiger@aol.com (SunnyTiger) writes:
> I noticed that there are new drivers for the Adaptec 6x60 SCSI
> chips. Does anyone know if these drivers will work with a 6360
> chip on a Zeos brand motherboard?
>
> JA
I've tried it with no luck. I don't think my luck of luck has anything to do with the driver
though. With the onboard 6360 chip installed I get the NeXT boot prompt upon
powering up the computer but I get an "OS not found" message if I choose to
boot NeXTSTEP or DOS. I can still get to the DOS partition in I boot DOS via a
floppy.
Anyone have any ideas? I'de love to be able to get this chip to work and to
be able to remove my 1542C card.
Thanks,
--
Mike Amirault
Kaizen Solutions, Inc.
ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
From: "SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Mach 32 supported?
Date: 12 Aug 1994 14:30:42 -0300
Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network
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To: johng@jolt.mpx.com.au
On 10 Aug 1994 10:56:02 GMT,
John Gibbons <johng@jolt.mpx.com.au> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me if the ATI Mach 32 VLB video card is supported
>under nextStep?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help
Yes, it works. We've been using this card for the past year. The ATI Ultra
Pro with the Mach-32, however, does not handle the higher video modes under
NeXTStep very well ( > 1024x768 ). For some reason, the card does not sync
very well above the pre-stated resolution.
Steve MacDougall
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| different ideas.
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From: ambi@kaizen.com (Mike Amirault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 6x60 Drivers - got it working, but....
Date: 12 Aug 1994 18:04:13 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <32gdit$e7@news.bu.edu>
References: <32g8qa$s6o@news.bu.edu>
In article <32g8qa$s6o@news.bu.edu> ambi@kaizen.com (Mike Amirault) writes:
> In article <32eugu$8ab@search01.news.aol.com> sunnytiger@aol.com (SunnyTiger) writes:
> > I noticed that there are new drivers for the Adaptec 6x60 SCSI
> > chips. Does anyone know if these drivers will work with a 6360
> > chip on a Zeos brand motherboard?
> >
> > JA
I still can't get it to work with the dual boot partition but I botted up from a
NeXT floppy and having it running fine. Performance is not what I hoped
for however:
DrivePerformance.app:
1542CF: 1.1
6360: .77
Benchpress.app produces similar results.
I get the following messages at bootup:
Aug 12 13:54:30 magrathea mach: AIC 6X60 Driver -- Version 3.2.3
Aug 12 13:54:30 magrathea mach: AIC6X60: Not using DMA
Aug 12 13:54:30 magrathea mach: AIC6X60: controller at irq 11
Is there any way to get it to use DMA, or does it even matter??
--
Mike Amirault
Kaizen Solutions, Inc.
ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: re: re: 72-Pin SIMMs
Date: 12 Aug 1994 18:04:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <payne440.42.0012A353@utw.com>
In article <payne440.42.0012A353@utw.com> payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne)
writes:
> The problem is, there's IN ADDITION a 72-pin SIMM socket on
> the board (just 1 though).
That's for the Digital Signal Processor (DSP). Of the commercial
applications, only a few, old apps use the DSP. Unless you're writing
your own DSP code, you probably don't want to waste your money adding DSP
memory.
By the way, your cube will not take anything larger than 4 MB SIMMs. A 16
MB SIMM won't work, even if it is 30 pin.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott)
Subject: Re: re: 72-Pin SIMMs
Message-ID: <rscottCuFpEn.FCq@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <payne440.42.0012A353@utw.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 18:15:59 GMT
In article <payne440.42.0012A353@utw.com> payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne) writes:
>Okay, I kinda figured the 30-pin deal right. The problem is, there's IN
>ADDITION a 72-pin SIMM socket on the board (just 1 though). Z-ram and
>Kensington both said they had a 1-chip upgrade at one time. Now, the socket
>almost looks like it accepts a 4x32 SIMM instead of the more common 4x36,
>which I originally got. Since the 30-pinners are non-parity (8 chip), then
>maybe a 4x32 would work. If you have a 'Cube, what are you using that socket
>for?
From: cookje@ccmail.us.dell.com (Jeffrey S. Cook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCMCIA Support? Ever?
Date: 12 Aug 1994 19:31:00 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Corporation
Message-ID: <32gilk$r50@uudell.us.dell.com>
Will there ever be PCMCIA Support for NeXT? If so, when?
____________________________________________________________________
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
Message-ID: <CuDG1M.1IH@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <1994Aug10.224340.1687@radical2.radical.com>
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 12:58:33 GMT
In article <1994Aug10.224340.1687@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com
(Ralph Jung) writes:
#The original Maxtor 340 MB disk drive in my 68040 Cube died recently. It
#just went "click" and spun down one day while I was using it. The
#controller portion still identifies itself to the Cube, but the drive
#doesn't spin up. Anyway, I removed it and I am now using an external SCSI
#disk drive that luckily was my system disk anyway. The external SCSI
#floppy drive has been giving me fits ever since I pulled the dead drive.
#
#It has been brought to my attention that there needs to be internal SCSI
#termination in the Cube somewhere. Does anyone know how to accomplish
#this task, short of installing another disk drive? Does, or did, NeXT
#provide some sort of internal SCSI terminator, other than that on the
#Maxtor drive itself? Is there a termination jumper or something on the
#68040 motherboard? Has anyone built an internal SCSI terminator for a
#Cube?
The cube is terminated and there is no need fo you to worry.
THe SCSI bus on the NeXT is a single bus that is terminated on
the board and the other termination needs to be on the
last drive that resides on the bus.
You currently have the correct setup.
Kent
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From: rmj@llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Roger M. Jones)
Subject: ThinkPad & NeXTStep
Message-ID: <CuFuv5.KFE@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:13:52 GMT
Dear Users,
NeXT Answers points out a number of laptops
that are able to run NeXTStep however the
ThinkPad is not listed. Anyone tried installing
on a 755Cs or similar? How much RAM &
disk space was required and of course was
the installation process seamless?
Many thanks.
--
Yours,
Roger
(rmj@llewelyn.slac.stanford.edu)
From: oregon@chaos.ats.orst.edu (George Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Viper VLB video card
Date: 12 Aug 1994 20:35:57 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Message-ID: <32gmfd$m0d@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <32gilk$r50@uudell.us.dell.com>
Has anyone in netland used a Diamond Viper VLB video card with 2MB VRAM in
1024x768 non-interlaced mode?
I am interested in running NeXTStep at 1024x768 resolution. I tried a
TsengLabs card, but it only ran in interlaced mode at that resolution, so the
display was not very stable.
Or does anyone have suggestions of their favorite card for higher resolution
displays?
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- Oregon State University -
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From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ThinkPad & NeXTStep
Date: 12 Aug 1994 17:15:59 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <32goqf$o0k@oclc.org>
References: <CuFuv5.KFE@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Roger M. Jones (rmj@llewelyn.SLAC.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: Dear Users,
: NeXT Answers points out a number of laptops
: that are able to run NeXTStep however the
: ThinkPad is not listed. Anyone tried installing
: on a 755Cs or similar? How much RAM &
: disk space was required and of course was
: the installation process seamless?
: Many thanks.
: --
: Yours,
: Roger
: (rmj@llewelyn.slac.stanford.edu)
My only advice is this: Installing NEXTSTEP on an IBM ValuePoint
is extremely painful - refer to the appropriate NeXTanswers doc for
more info! If the ThinkPad has similar non-standard stuff crammed
into it, you're in for serious trouble.
Robin
--
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From: Doug Moore
Subject: Re: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
Message-ID: <CuG1ow.L79@news.cis.umn.edu>
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Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 22:44:02 GMT
kent@infoserv.com writes
| In article <1994Aug10.224340.1687@radical2.radical.com>
Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com
| (Ralph Jung) writes:
| #The original Maxtor 340 MB disk drive in my 68040 Cube died
recently. It
| #just went "click" and spun down one day while I was using it. The
| #controller portion still identifies itself to the Cube, but the
drive
| #doesn't spin up. Anyway, I removed it and I am now using an
external SCSI
| #disk drive that luckily was my system disk anyway. The external
SCSI
| #floppy drive has been giving me fits ever since I pulled the dead
drive.
| #
| #It has been brought to my attention that there needs to be
internal SCSI
| #termination in the Cube somewhere. Does anyone know how to
accomplish
| #this task, short of installing another disk drive? Does, or did,
NeXT
| #provide some sort of internal SCSI terminator, other than that on
the
| #Maxtor drive itself? Is there a termination jumper or something
on the
| #68040 motherboard? Has anyone built an internal SCSI terminator
for a
| #Cube?
|
| The cube is terminated and there is no need fo you to worry.
| THe SCSI bus on the NeXT is a single bus that is terminated on
| the board and the other termination needs to be on the
| last drive that resides on the bus.
|
| You currently have the correct setup.
|
| Kent
| --
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my mail. */
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Funny, when I added a second internal drive in my cube I needed to
terminate the "internal" side of the chain. Come to think of it I
had to terminate the 3rd party drive I added to the 'station I used
to have...
--
Douglas Moore
St Paul, MN
612-227-3274
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From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Thanks for MegaPixel help
Date: 12 Aug 1994 23:34:28 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
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I just wanted to take the time to thank Fabien Roy here for his help getting
my color MegaPixel display fixed. The technical specs. you gave enabled a
friend of mine to fix the monitor from dead to fully working for less than
$30 (US) in parts. That beats the minimum $450 minimum charge from Bell
Atlantic for sure!
Thanks,
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: What throughput should an EISA SCSI-2 Adapter Get?
Message-ID: <westesCuGGpI.MLt@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 04:05:41 GMT
I have a BusLogic 747 EISA SCSI host adapter in my NS 3.2 FIP
system. The host adapter is being used with a Quantum Empire 1080S
FAST-SCSI-2 drive. Using DrivePerformance.App, I get a throughput
of around 1200K/sec. This seems really slow to me, particularly by
EISA standards.
What is the expected throughput with a FAST-SCSI-2 drive on an EISA
bus, and what do others get with the BusLogic 747?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: oscara@aol.com (OscarA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStep V3.2 & Sound card.
Date: 13 Aug 1994 00:53:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Message-ID: <32hjje$dqr@search01.news.aol.com>
I am thinking about a new sound card. What is the best supported (bug
free, or allmost bug free) sound card for the NeXTStep on the Intel?
Oscar S. Alonso
oscara@aol.com
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From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: NeXTstep on Gateway P5-90
Message-ID: <CuD9oH.G0@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA, Switzerland
References: <Cu7qqD.7vM@knoware.nl>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 10:41:04 GMT
In article <Cu7qqD.7vM@knoware.nl> Cairo@Knoware.nl (Scairo) writes:
> We have P5-90s. Would it work with a Matrox PCI video card?
> Did the actual NeXTstep drivers come with the card?
>
>
> Ton van der Liet, Holland
I don't know of any NS drivers for the Matrox PCI. If there is one
somewhere, I'd be glad to know !!
And Yes, the NeXTSTEP drivers came with the miro Crystal 32S PCI but I had
to order it from miro directly.
--
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TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
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TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fair price for exchange of old NeXT printers for new?
Date: 13 Aug 1994 01:29:50 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <32h7me$a35@news.worldlink.com>
Four hundred ($400) is too much. I can get a new one for $400 right here
on the Net. So why would I give up another machine in the exchange?
Your client better consider exactly where his/her "break-even" price ($190,
$230, etc.). Anyone can see that this is an effort to make money while
receiving a fresh stock of spare parts.
A suggested approach would be to add 10-15% to $400 minus the above
indicated "break-even" price and offer swapped printers to the market
discounted accordingly. This would achieve:
(1) a bevy of spare parts
(2) tremendous service loyalty (people would be feel good about having
their machine serviced by someone who made them feel good)
(3) potential/implicit customer base
and
(4) a small profit to cover the expenses of the swap/marketing
campaign.
Remember, NeXT users and developers are smart ... that's why we are on NeXT
in the first place. We are all very sensitive to the nature of the
businesses offering services on the Net.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
> I am working with a client in my marketing consulting business who wants
> some pricing advice.
> The company runs a well-regarded printer repair facility and they've got
a
> limited number of brand new NeXT laser printers. They'd like to offer the
> new printers to NeXT users in exchange for printers that might be wearing
> out. They've asked me how much they should charge for this exchange of
old
> printers for new. They think about $400 would be a fair fee, for
> exchanging an old printer (working or not) for a new one.
> What do you think? I told my client it'd be best to ask people on the net
> what would be a fair price. Please email me at kehoe@fortuity.sf.ca.us if
> you have an opinion.
> Regards,
> Daniel Kehoe
> Fortuity Marketing Consulting
> +1-415-488-9142
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help: keyboard not recognized!
Date: 12 Aug 1994 22:33:02 -0700
Organization: Zach's House
Distribution: world
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References: <322g5s$co9@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> <19940809.123531.202091.NETNEWS@VM1.ULG.AC.BE>
Yes, there is something seriously wrong with the keyboard support under
3.2 Intel. I have a Zeos 486 motherboard, and there is only ONE keyboard
that works with it--a real old junker that's about ready to die! I took
the machine to a large computer store and tried about 20 different
keyboards, but none of them worked (only this one old gross one works).
The only solution I have found is to change motherboards. Most other
motherbaords work fine with any keyboard.
But I need to use the Zeos motherboard for one of my NEXTSTEP machines
anyway. And I'm scared.
Zach
Vincent Minder (vmin@urba.ulg.ac.be) wrote:
: I!ve had the same problem with an Intel (OEM) Pentium 90
: motherboard : everything goes fine but the keyboard never
: gets recognized though the mouse works (this is not
: sufficient to go past the login panel unfortunately).
: A NEXT vendor told us he had faced the same problem with
: some customer-owned 486 motherboards, and solved it by...
: selling them a new motherboard.
: I!d be interested in a cleaner solution too...
: vmin
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Syquest 270mb 3.5" removable HD
Date: 12 Aug 1994 18:29:29 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <32gf29$fqo@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <32g2eu$7dr@ratatosk.uninett.no>
In article <32g2eu$7dr@ratatosk.uninett.no>, Jan Bratbak <jan@altus.no> wrote:
>Hi,
>I only get 221 mb of formatted space on these 270 mb cartridges. It seams
>like loosing 50 mb in the formatting phase is a bit too much. Does anyone
>have any experience with this type of drive?
>
>Jan
>--
I'll venture that you are missing 27 Mb because of the 10% the file system
normally reserves for performance and defragmentation purposes. I'm not
familiar with the actual blocksize (512 or 1024)or typical formatted
capacity of these drives. The tunefs command should let you alter the
percentage reserved, though its generally not recommended unless you
understand the drawbacks. Generally archival or relatively idle
mediums can be set to low percentages without serious impact.
Whether you can reformat to 1024 bytes/block is something I'll defer to
those folks who are wiser than I.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: good, fast, reliable laser printer: SHARP 9460PS
Date: 13 Aug 1994 01:53:30 -0500
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <32hqla$mv9@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
References: <9408091615.AA03568@network.cfc.com>
In article <9408091615.AA03568@network.cfc.com>,
Timothy Mills (Anatec) <t6882tm@network.cfc.com> wrote:
>I want to purchase a good, fast, high resolution laser printer for use with my
>Pentium machine running NEXTSTEP. I want high reliability and many
>trouble-free years of use. Price is, however, an object. What choices do I
>have that could compete in all these aspects with an HP LaserJet 4M+? Or is
>that definitely THE way to go?
>
Well, HP is certainly a good vendor and I doubt that you could go wrong
with them. On the other hand, I just purchased a SHARP JX-9460PS laser
printer with 2MB built in for <$800 + tax from COMP USA. I looked through
Computer Shopper and found this same model selling for nearly $1000 from
several mail order vendors, so I figured this was a good deal, and not
just a cheap printer.
This is a 6PPM 600 DPI printer with 35 builtin fonts.
Beware that while 2MB is enough for many print jobs in 300 DPI mode,
you'll need more memory for very complicated graphics, especially in
600 DPI mode (it is switchable to 300DPI, and in that mode I was able to
print everything things I need up to now with just 2MB). I have since
added 4MB just to make sure.
As for reliability and such, I've only had the printer a little while
so I can't say. But it is of the type that you replace the drum every
30,000 pages, so you basically get a new printer for the $110 that the
drum package costs. Oh, every 15,000 pages you replace the toner/developer
cartridge. These costs are not the lowest, and on-going costs are certainly
to be considered for a laser printer.
One other thing: I recommend going elsewhere for memory expansion modules,
or better yet, tell the vendor that you want expanded memory but don't
want the 1MB card it comes with. Maybe that will help your cost a little
(replace the standard 1MB expansion card with 4MB to get 5MB total).
When I called Sharp, they wanted over $200 for a 2MB memory module. I
said "no thanks", and found memory for about $65/MB from a vendor in
Computer Shopper. That's higher than it will cost you for HP printer
memory, but much more reasonable than Sharp's price. The memory module
plugged in and worked fine.
CS: a rag to be sure, but has some gems if you can filter through all the
cr*p.
So total I have invested in this printer now is < $1100. That's hard to
beat for 6PPM and 600 DPI and PostScript.
Only one catch is, now I need a .ppd file for it.
--
Randy Kunkee
Houston, TX
713-870-1334
kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
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From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki)
Subject: Re: Cron script for turning off printer (long)
Message-ID: <1994Aug13.131115.26355@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <1994Aug10.160418.21119@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 13:11:15 GMT
In article <1994Aug10.160418.21119@Princeton.EDU> tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
(Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
>
> I would like a script I can use to shut of the NeXT
> printer periodically, because I use it infrequently.
> If I just execute nppower off, it first turns on the
> printer if it is already off, and this is an annoying
> thing to have happen every hour. Thus, the script
> for check whether the printer is on and not in use,
> and then execute nppower off.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
> --
> Timothy Van Zandt (609)258-4050 tvz@Princeton.EDU (NeXTMail)
> Dept. of Economics, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
This should almost be in the FAQ :-). I had the same question a few months ago,
and first I tried a shell script, which was working, but easy to confuse. Then
Mr. Peter Nitezki kindly posted source code for a simple daemon which does the
job flawlessly. The copy of the article is below:
----- ORIGINAL ARTICLE BELOW -----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: nppower off cron entry
Message-ID: <1994Apr23.101849.4615@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <9404192027.AA29244@audiotst.ap.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 10:18:49 GMT
Lines: 134
In article <9404192027.AA29244@audiotst.ap.com> audiotst!lre@uunet.UU.NET
(Louis R. Eagle) writes:
> Some time ago I saw a rather simple crontab entry that checked for
> the print queue to be empty before 'nppower off'. Now that I have a
> reason for such a thing, I can't seem to find where I saved it.
> Anyone have something like this.
>
There is something better:
-----
#
/*
* nppowerd.c rjesse 19 oct 92
*
* This daemon turns off a NeXT 400 dpi printer (/dev/np0)
* that has been idle for more than "interval" minutes.
*
* Usage: nppowerd [interval minutes]
*/
#define INTERVAL (60*60) /* 60 minute default */
#include <stdio.h>
#include <bsd/sys/types.h>
#include <mach/boolean.h>
#include <bsd/sys/ioctl.h>
#include <bsd/sys/file.h>
#include <bsd/sys/stat.h>
#include <bsd/dev/m68k/npio.h>
char printer[] = "/dev/np0";
time_t
pmtime() {
struct stat pstat;
if (stat(printer, &pstat) < 0) {
fputs("nppowerd: ", stderr);
perror(printer);
exit(1);
}
return pstat.st_mtime;
}
turnpoff() {
struct npop op;
register pfd;
extern errno;
errno = 0;
if ((pfd=open(printer, O_WRONLY, 0)) < 0)
return errno;
op.np_op = NPSETPOWER;
op.np_power = 0;
ioctl(pfd, NPIOCPOP, &op);
close(pfd);
return errno;
}
main(ac, av)
int ac;
char **av;
{
time_t offtime, mtime, idle;
register interval = INTERVAL;
if (ac > 2) {
fputs("Usage: nppowerd [minutes]\n", stderr);
return 1;
}
switch (fork()) {
default:
return 0;
case -1:
return 1;
case 0:
; /* child */
}
if (ac > 1)
interval = atoi(av[1]) * 60;
if (interval<60 || interval>(24*60*60) )
interval = INTERVAL;
/*
* it seems (see NP(4)) to be impossible to test whether the
* printer is on or off without first turning it on - opening
* the device, even without O_WRONLY, turns it on. so we assume
* that upon nppowerd invocation (probably from /etc/rc) that
* the printer is on (it gets turned on during the boot sequence).
*/
offtime = 0;
mtime = pmtime();
/*
* petet: go to sleep during startup to allow the printer
* daemon to start up (as opposed to halting the boot with
* a shell sleep command).
*/
sleep(15);
while (1) {
if (mtime != offtime) {
/* there has been some printer activity */
while ((idle = time() - mtime) < interval) {
sleep(interval-idle+1);
mtime = pmtime();
}
if (turnpoff() == 0)
offtime = mtime = pmtime();
}
sleep(interval);
mtime = pmtime();
}
/*NOTREACHED*/
}
-----
Compile this and call it from rc.local with a few seconds of delay (the
printer demons must be up and running). The following works fine for me.
-----
# (echo -n 'local daemons:')
>/dev/console
#
# Run your own commands here
#
# (echo '.')
>/dev/console
domainname nidat.sub.org
su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/newsboot'
# sleep 10; /usr/local/etc/nppowerd 30 # petet: modified (see below)
/usr/local/etc/nppowerd 30 # petet: nppowerd sleeps now by itself
/usr/local/etc/setmd
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----- END OF ORIGINAL ARTICLE -----
I have modified the code and the script a tiny bit, wherever it says "petet:".
Essentially having the sleep command in the script called from rc.local was
halting the boot process for the duration of the command. To rectify this I
have added a sleep command in the daemon itself. This makes perfect sense,
since the daemon already assumes that it starts up during the boot process after
the printer daemon.
Have fun, and I hope it helps...
--
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B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
From: jjfox@shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Support? Ever?
Date: 13 Aug 1994 16:22:05 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <32irvd$7lh@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <32gilk$r50@uudell.us.dell.com>
In article <32gilk$r50@uudell.us.dell.com>, cookje@ccmail.us.dell.com (Jeffrey S. Cook) says:
>
>
>Will there ever be PCMCIA Support for NeXT? If so, when?
>
NeXTstep 3.3 (due at the end of this year) will have PCMCIA and Plug-and-Play
Support.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Re: NeXTStep on Pentium Ambra machines?
Message-ID: <CuHG09.1DE@relief.com>
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Organization: Relief Consulting & Development
References: <LIM.94Aug11100513@brian.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 16:48:08 GMT
In article <LIM.94Aug11100513@brian.jpl.nasa.gov>
lim@telerobotics.jpl.nasa.gov (David Lim) writes:
>
> I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.2 on a Ambra 60 MHz Pentium machine. I'm
> using a Adaptec 1542CF SCSI adaptor with a Sun CD-ROM attached at SCSI ID
0. I
> have the driver update disk from NeXT for the 1542CF. When I try to load in
> the updated driver I get the message:
>
> "No drivers found on the disk"
>
> Yet the machine read the configuration boot disk enough to get to that
point.
>
> I also tried using an internal IDE CD-ROM drive. The machine failed to find
> the CD-ROM. Are internal IDE CD-ROMs supported for installing NeXTStep?
>
The drivers on the floppy have to be in the correct place. Make sure that
the path to the driver is /<FloppyName>/usr/Devices/<DriverName>.config.
John
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From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer)
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Message-ID: <1994Aug13.204632.810@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de
Organization: NeXAPP
References: <CuEtGs.1Jx@blackmaus.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 20:46:32 GMT
...
#You were not too clear in your message. Do you want to know what tablets
#work with a NeXTstation, or you want to buy one?
#
#If you are looking for compatible tablets, you'll be happy to know that
#since v3.1 NEXTSTEP has had a little app called InstallTablet.app which
#supports the following WACOM Tablets attached to serial port B:
...
#All these tablets have the serial interface not the ADB inteface. You can
#use a regular or pressure sensitive pen or a puck.
#
WACON is _NOT_ working on a black, color, turbo with ADB. Using the
InstallTAblet will kill the machine. Are there any hints how I can do this?
so long
*** perstoro ***
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From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ?ET4000/W32p drivers
Date: 13 Aug 1994 23:58:15 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <32jmmn$sde@gamera.umd.edu>
I have STB Lightspeed 1.1 board, 2MB VRAM using an ET4000/W32p. I
am looking for the video driver for NS/FIP 3.2, where do I get it?
Thanks.
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| "if you live for the present,
argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self"
|
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From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: To turn off or not to turn off?
Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:32:14 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32js6u$qhv@acmex.gatech.edu>
What's the current theory on keeping monitors on or not?? I've got a color
megapixel.. should I leave it on 24/7 (with a screen saver) or turn it off
when not in use? In the past, I've been turning it on and off all the time,
and I've had to fix the power supply.. Any observations/suggestions?
Thanks,
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Re: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
Message-ID: <1994Aug15.135737.9535@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <CuG1ow.L79@news.cis.umn.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:57:37 GMT
Well, the results are in ... but it's a split decision.
Half of you that responded believe that the NeXT 68040 Cube DOES require
internal SCSI termination and the other half believe that it DOES NOT
require internal SCSI termination.
I retrieved some information from Maxtor's Fax-Back service to determine
the configuration of the "late" Maxtor XT-838S disk drive. The original
drive WAS actively terminated! A co-worker checked his NeXTStation Turbo
and its internal drive was ALSO actively terminated. This would seem to
indicate that internal SCSI termination is required for NeXT hardware.
Perhaps if a former NeXT hardware engineer is reading this or someone
could locate one in "retirement," we could obtain the real answer.
Thanks to all that responded to the original post.
--
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Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from
the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: steve@ion.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Date: 14 Aug 1994 17:23:34 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32ljum$rud@larry.rice.edu>
As it turns out, the cause of the problem I was having with the parallel port
and printing on a HP560C was a simple one. There is a bug in parallel port
driver. Rather than blocking on a call to write() it just returns less than the
number of characters you asked it to send. So, you need to keep track of how
many characters have actually been written and call write() again until they
actually get sent. Thanks to Federico Heinz for the solution to this mystery!
Several other people expressed interest in how I got ghostscript to work with
the HP560C, and I promised to put together a set of instructions/patches in the
next week or two. I will post again when I have done this. If you want to give
it a try yourself, you can get ghostscript from any GNU archive (ftp.wustl.edu,
etc ...) The installation is not a trivial process, but shouldn't be a problem
for an experienced sysop. If you want something easy to install, try Dots.
--
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Half ass RAID Box ?
Message-ID: <CuJCL2.Ly8@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 17:29:26 GMT
Here is something I have thought a little about and
now I am looking for some input.
Suppose one takes a cube enclosure and places 4 030
boards in it with 8 MB RAM min on each board.
Now, attach to each of the SCSI ports one hard drive.
Have another 040 cube or slab ethernetted to the
030 cube (all the 030's are ethernet linked also ).
Export each of the drives to the master 040.
Set a large amount of system buffers on each of the 030's.
Now, the question is: Is this the optimal configuration
to make a RAID box out of 4 030's and a cube enclosure.
FOR PERSONAL USE - i.e. no other machines on this ethernet.
From: Faizel Dakri
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Graphics cards...which one?
Date: 14 Aug 1994 19:36:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <32lrnt$m9d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Hi all,
I'm currently in the market for a new graphics card (64-bit PCI only) for
NS/I and I was wondering if anyone had any comments about the following
cards:
#9 GXE 64 Pro
ATI mach64
Diamond Stealth64
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ?LightSpeed32WP?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 00:26:04 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <32mcms$o3k@gamera.umd.edu>
I have a STB Light Speed 32WP with 2 Megs of ram. I just got the new
ET4000 Driver from Next but I can not seem to run at hight res then
800X600 16BIT, is this right? or am I missing somthing?
Thanks in advance
James
P.S. Please NO NeXT Mail
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______________________________________________________________________________
Lord Argon the Paladin |
| "if you live for the present,
argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self"
|
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From: 3josh@coyote.csusm.edu (Joshua Bardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9GXE level 14 (4meg) problems..
Date: 14 Aug 1994 13:18:38 -0700
Organization: California State University, San Marcos
Message-ID: <32lu6u$opo@coyote.csusm.edu>
Is anyone else having problems getting the #9gxe drivers
to work with the new drivers on ftp.next.com?
I went and got them and thought my days of 640 were finally over.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to even get the system to
boot to the login screen. It either locks up right after trying
to switch graphic modes and the screen goes black or I get a kernel
exception error right before that.
Anyone run into this?
I'm using a GBT vlbus-eisa /intel DX50
adaptec 1542
#9GXE level 14 - 4 megs (obviously)
MediaTrix AudioTrixPro (should I try taking these drivers out?)
SMC ethernet (again - take this out?)
Recovering from a bad config is really tedious :(
josh
From: root@via-annex1-16.cl.msu.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Half ass RAID Box ?
Date: 14 Aug 1994 20:35:26 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <32lv6e$lql@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <CuJCL2.Ly8@ucdavis.edu>
In article <CuJCL2.Ly8@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) writes:
>
> Here is something I have thought a little about and
> now I am looking for some input.
> Suppose one takes a cube enclosure and places 4 030
> boards in it with 8 MB RAM min on each board.
> Now, attach to each of the SCSI ports one hard drive.
> Have another 040 cube or slab ethernetted to the
> 030 cube (all the 030's are ethernet linked also ).
> Export each of the drives to the master 040.
> Set a large amount of system buffers on each of the 030's.
> Now, the question is: Is this the optimal configuration
> to make a RAID box out of 4 030's and a cube enclosure.
> FOR PERSONAL USE - i.e. no other machines on this ethernet.
>
Rereading my 11/88 Byte 030 article(just to check) the ethernet
speed is 10Mb/sed (bits) which give you about 1.25MB/sec maximum
theoritical transfer rate. I just read that the 030 NCR 53C90 on
the NeXT 030 board can do 4MB/sec (is this because of async SCSI
driver??) which with 4 030 boards would give you tmax=16MB/sec.
Anyone with other informed opinions care to comment more?
(i.e. what is theoretical max speed of NCR 53C90). It's not to
say that David has a bad idea, just that ethernet won't be good
enough, and the only way to do better is to write a better SCSI
driver, and perhaps to use NeXTBUS to transfer data. If anyone
has any ideas or interest in this matter feel free to e-mail
me.
Randy
From: dsinn@coho.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: To turn off or not to turn off?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 17:25:29 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32o8e9$7kf@news.halcyon.com>
References: <32js6u$qhv@acmex.gatech.edu>
Dave Rinker (gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: What's the current theory on keeping monitors on or not?? I've got a color
: megapixel.. should I leave it on 24/7 (with a screen saver) or turn it off
: when not in use? In the past, I've been turning it on and off all the time,
: and I've had to fix the power supply.. Any observations/suggestions?
Along these lines, what is the general feeling on turning on/off
NeXTstations (mono)? I think it is best for the computer hardware to
leave it up 24/7 in a cool environment. As for the monitor, I think is
would be best if they could make a screen saver that would shut off the
monitor after a fixed period of time (about 1 maybe 2 hr mark).
Any comments?
David Sinn
dsinn@halcyon.com
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pentium motherboards
Message-ID: <Aug.14.20.52.14.1994.16398@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 15 Aug 94 00:52:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Im going to be doing a bulk purchase of sorts of NS machines. Pentium
machines to be more specific and am wondering if any of you with P5 machines
could let me know what kind of motherboards you are using?
I guess my ideal mother board would have 3 PCI slots, 2 VESA LB slots,
and 3 or 4 EISA slots. I would also like 8-16 72pin simm slots with room for
upto 1meg of cache memory. Of course Id like a 64bit CPU-memory data path.
And most importantly it has to run NS :-)
I would really appreciate any of your expericences and information.
Thanks very much,
Later, John
From: ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu (Y. MOK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: A few questions about Daydream
Date: 15 Aug 1994 01:19:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu>
I am considering buying a Daydream. However, before I actually put
in the order, I would like to have some more informations. Since the
presumed info source, quix@applelink.apple.com, is like a black hole,
I have to ask the experienced users in the Net. The following is a
few obvious questions from a potential buyer:
1. Do I need a seperate hard disk to handle the Mac files ? What
happens to the internal hard disk when the NeXT is running like
a Mac ? Will the system try to reformat the internal hard disk to
make it a "Mac disk" ? Will the files on the internal disk be
overwritten ?
2. Are other devices on the SCSI bus, such as a CD-ROM drive, usable
when the NeXT is running like a Mac ? Many CD-ROMs for Mac have high
quality audio. Will the speakers in my NeXT play them ?
3. Will the diskette drive read Mac format disks just like a Mac ?
4. Will I be able to use the modem through the serial port with a Mac
terminal emulator ?
5. Will I be able to use an Apple LaserWriter through one of the serial
port just like a Mac ?
6. How big does the actual Mac screen appear on my MegaPixel Display,
since the native resolution of the Mac is only 640x480 ?
7. After shutting down the machine, will I be able to boot the machine
back to run NeXTStep by not turning on the Daydream ? I suppose it
can be done only if the "Mac" does not do anything to the NeXTStep
system files on the internal disk. In other word, will I be able to
switch between NeXTStep and Mac OS by simply rebooting ?
8. Will I be able to upgrade to MacOS 7.5 when it is available ?
Thanks for the answers,
Y. Mok
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does Daydream have sound?(was:A few questions about Daydream)
Date: 15 Aug 1994 08:36:33 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32n9eh$hru@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu> ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu (Y.
MOK) writes:
Does Daydream have sound yet?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTStep V3.2 & Sound card.
Date: 15 Aug 1994 11:42:57 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <32nkc1$6im@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <32hjje$dqr@search01.news.aol.com>
OscarA (oscara@aol.com) wrote:
: I am thinking about a new sound card. What is the best supported (bug
: free, or allmost bug free) sound card for the NeXTStep on the Intel?
my vote goes out for the MediaTraix AudioTrix Pro.....
Gary
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From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@arissoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Mach 32 supported?
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:05:23 GMT
Organization: Take 3
Message-ID: <940816110523.5432AAABE.wes@arissoft>
References: <64220.seins@fox.nstn.ca> <mperryCuMCCv.Jts@netcom.com>
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>Mine works fine at higher resolutions -- check your monitor!
My monitor and video card work fine at higher resolutions running DOS or
Windoze (ones that NeXT can't figure out how to do right). Better check your
NEXTSTEP!
Wes Smith
wes@arissoft.com MIME and NeXTmail ok
Gun control: it's not about guns, it's about control.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <CuKsF8.su@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <1994Aug15.064623.18981@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 12:09:07 GMT
In article <1994Aug15.064623.18981@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> Probably I'm missing something, but what could be the use of GhostScript
> on a NeXT? Is Display PostScript not enough ??????
You will not be able to print on a Non-Postscript printer with Display
Postscript. Ghostscript will do this for you.
Bye, Michael
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From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Color MegaPixel Possible Repair Steps
Date: 16 Aug 1994 12:34:44 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32qpr4$p8i@acmey.gatech.edu>
Due to the amount of interest I've gotten regarding Color MegaPixel display
repairs, I'll repost the information I have:
Apparently, a common problem in the color MegaPixel display is the high
voltage power supplies dying. The symptoms of this could include:
-Display not always turning on when the button is hit (or not turning on at
all -- NOTE: This could also signify a blown fuse, so check for that!)
-Display turning off randomly.
-'Strange' sounding power-on noise (like an overloading transformer).
Fabien Roy suggested I have someone look at the following parts, becuase he
suspected (correctly) that I had a problem similar to one he had delt with.
An 'electro-wizard' friend of mine concurred with the list of parts to repair on
the high voltage power supply. These parts are located on the vertical board
on the right side of the monitor (from the back facing forward).
You should be able to get these parts at any large electronics-part
distributors if you attempt self repair. We got the transistors from
'Consolidated Electronics' and the capacitors from 'MCM electronics'. (Not
that these are necessarily the best place to get the parts).
Here is the parts list from Fabien's Original Message:
(As he pointed out, any good TV repair shop should be able to handle this job.)
----Start inserted message----
Here is a list of electronic components we used to change on a non working
NeXT Station 17 " Color monitor.
Location Type Ref Comments/Manufacturer
V21 Transistor BUW13A Philipps
V66 Transistor BUV26 Philipps
C33 Capacitor 13nF/1600Volts Polypropylene
dielectric
C110 Capacitor 180nF/400Volts Polypropylene
dielectric
Don t try to do it yourself, but any good TV repair shop can do the job!
Hope that helps!
Cheers
--Fabien
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Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail accepted)
XO, 81 alle Danielle Casanova, 93320 Les Pavillons sous Bois
France
Tel: 33 1 4847 5198 Fax: 33 1 4847 5175
----End inserted message----
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle)
Subject: Dell XPS P90 questions
Message-ID: <1994Aug16.163715.14192@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us>
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:37:15 GMT
I'm about to take the plunge and buy Intel hardware... I'm sure gonna miss
having a system that 'just works', but I also want color so bad I can taste
it. I'd like any tips I can get on what to expect, and what I'll need.
The (perspective) system:
Dell XPS P90 w/32 Meg RAM
17" Monitor
64-bit #9 PCI vid card w/2 Meg VRAM
340 Meg IDE (the smallest they'll sell)
No CD ROM (I've got 1.5 Gig of SCSI drives + the NeXT CD ROM drive).
$3768
I'm gonna try twiddling some of the options to see if I can bring the price
down (someone mentioned that it's actually *LESS* if you let them leave a CD
ROM in the system).
Any tips on SCSI boards? How'll the #9 perform w/ 2 Meg (will I get good
color)?
I'll post summaries if they're desired.
Thanks in advance,
Kurt
p.s. Unfortunately I can't wait for 3.3...
From: jjfox@shadow.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 PCI drivers?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 19:25:52 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <32ofg0$bl3@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <776939500snz@vapl.demon.co.uk>
In article <776939500snz@vapl.demon.co.uk>, apl@vapl.demon.co.uk (Ari Laakkonen) says:
>
>Would anyone (Next?) know of plans for drivers for the Adaptec 2940 (PCI)
>SCSI adapter for NS. I think it has the AIC7870 series controller. Previously
>I had a system with an Adaptec 1740, and drivers never came out for that
>("too old" was the reply from Next) and now I have a newer system - I hope
>the answer is not "too new"!
>
NeXT is supposedly going to work on a driver for the 2940, but I wouldn't hold
my breath. Talus IS working on a driver, which should be available in a month
or so. I have a 2940 in my system, but couldn't wait for the driver, so
I purchased an NCR PCI SCSI card from Talus, with the driver.
Try contacting Dan Kramer at Talus 713-561-0700 (he's been really helpful)
If you still want a 2940, I'll sell you mine.
From: ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu (Y. MOK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does Daydream have sound?(was:A few questions about Daydream)
Date: 15 Aug 1994 19:29:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32ofls$4iu@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu> <32n9eh$hru@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
In article <32n9eh$hru@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
|> In article <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu> ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu (Y.
|> MOK) writes:
|>
|> Does Daydream have sound yet?
|>
|> -- Todd Takken
|> takken@leland.stanford.edu
I was just informed by Christian Kelling that Daydream still does not
support Mac audio :-(
Y. Mok
----------------------------------------------------------------
ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu
Department of Physics
University of California, Irvine
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Best sound card for NS/i ?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 18:00:55 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32qusn$r3e@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Subject says it all.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <1994Aug16.174604.7264@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <CuKsF8.su@nexus1.oche.de>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 17:46:04 GMT
In article <CuKsF8.su@nexus1.oche.de> michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
writes:
>In article <1994Aug15.064623.18981@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
>schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
>> Probably I'm missing something, but what could be the use of GhostScript
>> on a NeXT? Is Display PostScript not enough ??????
>
>You will not be able to print on a Non-Postscript printer with Display
>Postscript. Ghostscript will do this for you.
>
>Bye, Michael
>
>--
>*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
>*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
>*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Actually, that is not correct. You can use Display PostScript to print to a
non-PostScript printer. The NeXT printer is a non-PostScript printer driven by
Display PostScript. There is a third party product called Dots that has drivers
for a number of popular devices (such as HP inkjets).
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: douglas@ewl.uky.edu (John D. Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Talus/NCR SCSI Driver and Intel Premire PCI II
Date: 15 Aug 1994 13:15:11 GMT
Organization: Engineering Workstation Lab, University of Kentucky
Message-ID: <32npov$hn7@convex.cc.uky.edu>
Has anyone had the following message while booting NS on an Intel
Permeire PCI II motherboard?
After initial booting using diagnostics.....
NCR Timeout.
NCR Timeout.
NCR Timeout.
NCR Timeout.
NCR Timeout.
(repeats forever)
Is this a know problem or have I not installed something right?
--
John D. Turner | System Administrator | douglas@ewl.uky.edu | (606) 323-4531
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com (Phil Zumsteg)
Subject: Micron P90 + NCR SCSI + Talus Driver
Message-ID: <1994Aug15.132121.25151@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: Honeywell/HBC
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:21:21 GMT
Wanted: Experiences with combination mentioned in subject line, both
positive and negative. If I can't get NS/FIP 3.2 to install
by 8/18/94, I'll have to return the system (with regrets).
To date: Can't get past NS/FIP 3.2 installation. The Talus driver loads
OK from the diskette, the "NeXT Mach Operating System" banner displays, several "registering" messages appear (and look OK),
then the Talus driver is started up, and returns the following:
"NCR53C810 ERROR - BIOS32 entry point not found."
A few lines later, mach complains that it can't find a SCSI
controller or CD-ROM, then prompts for an alternate installation
device.
Talus has been informed of the problem. I'm wondering if anyone
may have some additional insight based on actual experience. For
the record, the Micron P90 (a nice machine and great company!) has
a Micronics P54 (PCI) motherboard with Phoenix Pentium PCI BIOS
4.03 P54Pi-N 03. The NCR card is the '825 version (a.k.a. S1365)
with the NCR BIOS (SDMS 3.0) on the SCSI card.
Responses may be either e-mail (for my eyes only) or post to the group
for everyone to benefit.
Thanks in advance,
Phil Zumsteg.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks)
Subject: Re: DSP+SoundCard Needed for Music?
Message-ID: <CuMzn5.Duz@ilink.de>
Keywords: i56,dsp,sound card,48kHz,8kHz,m56k
Sender: usenet@ilink.de
Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin
References: <ablakey.777005448@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 16:40:16 GMT
In article <ablakey.777005448@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au>
ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Antony Blakey) writes:
>
> Hi,
> I have an i.link i56 card on order but I note that it only has 8kHz
> analog in/out. Do I also need a sound card to really do sound properly?
>
You are wrong. i56 has full 48kHz/Stereo analog input/output.
For more info contact info@ilink.de
-- Eike
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: little green buttons near ADB ports on NeXT keyboard
Date: 16 Aug 1994 18:18:07 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32qvsv$g7u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <clintdw-1608940054010001@nb-dyna90.interaccess.com>
In article <clintdw-1608940054010001@nb-dyna90.interaccess.com>
clintdw@interaccess.com (Clinton Wong) writes:
> Has anyone figured out what those little green buttons near the ADB ports
> do (on a NeXT adb keyboard)?
>
> Also, I seem to remember a three key combination that can be pressed
> to reboot a NeXT when it is hung. E-mail me if you remember what it is...
>
> Clinton
Those little graeen buttons, if pressed simultaneously, release a spring-loaded bar
that tilts the keyboard towards the operator.
There are two key sequences for calming a troubled NeXT:
1) CMD ~ brings up the mini monitor and asks if you want to resart or power off
2) ALT CMD * performs a hard reboot of the entire system (including a full
fsck...go get a cup of coffee if you have big hard drives...
--
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Ste. 201, Champaign, IL, 61820
"Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FAQ? Hardware Compatibility Guide?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 22:24:03 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <32opu3$1tq@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Keywords: where?
Where is the hardware compatibility guide these days? How do
I get it? I can't find the 'quick guide' posts that tell where
to find things.
Also, where is the FAQ?
Thanks,
David Finton
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sony, FIMI NeXT monitors?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 22:33:05 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <32oqf1$1vg@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
How does one tell whether a NeXT monitor is the Sony or the
FIMI variety? I've read that the Sony monitors were better.
Could someone reiterate what the differences are?
Thanks,
David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mafrech@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Martin Frech)
Subject: Re: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ?
Message-ID: <FKMRBZTL@math.fu-berlin.de>
Keywords: DAT, Audio,SCSI, HP35480A
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
References: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:37:57 GMT
eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks) writes:
>Long ago there have been rumors that some SCSI DAT tapes support playing
>and recording audio DATs (these are formatted differently then data-DAT
>tapes)
>Does anyone know anything about this ?
>Is there any software that can can do this on capable drives ?
>Does anyone have docs on the HP35480A Rev 9 09 or knows how to get them
>from HP ? (The drive was OEM so it came with no docs at all)
>Eike
HPs docs for the OEM 35480A are not very complete, I have a 10pages booklet, which does not even tell anything about the DIP-Switches.
If you need information on these DIPs, at least I can tell you that 1 is for Compression ON-OFF, 4 is Parity ON-OFF, on our 030 and 040 Cubes, it only worked with 1 and 4 either on or off, BUT ALL THE OTHERS OFF !
Anyway, dump and restore never worked, tar was fine !
If you need detailed information on the DIPs, mail me ...
- martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard)
Subject: Re: cheap SCSI card for CDROM needed...
Message-ID: <1994Aug15.234721.14837@odin.diku.dk>
Sender: viggo@njord.diku.dk
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:47:21 GMT
References: <31nati$769@news.pacifier.com> <Cu7Grp.5y4@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) writes:
... stuff deleted ...
>I don't know a AVA-1515 from Adaptec. Maybe do you mean the AHA1510/1520/1522
>family. There is a driver called "AIC6X60" which I got for a Intel GX
>Professional. But it turned out that AIC6260 and AIC6360 are Adaptec
>chips which are used on the AHA1510/1520/1522 boards (and on the 1505 too? -
>I'm not sure).
>Also the Soundblaster 16 with SCSI-2 uses the AIC6360.
A lot of cheap (and "100% Adaptec compatible") boards use these chips too.
But they are not compatible with the 1540 (at least not mine) which is the only
board NeXT delivers a driver to on the installation disk.
>Since I've such
>a board I tested the driver with a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM attached
>to it. It worked and I was able to access data CD's.
Cool.
>But I couldn't play
>audio CD's although I invoked the free "XAmode" utility before to set the
>Toshiba into XAmode. But this is probably a problem with the Toshiba
>(I remember that it was already discussed here but don't remember how to
>fix it).
Sucks.
>So Soundblaster 16 could be a ideal board for sound and low-end SCSI,
Yes.
>but unfortunatly the free Soundblaster 16 driver didn't work for me
>(I already mailed to the author - no answer yet).
Tough.
>If you want to install with the AIC6X60 driver you need a NeXT formatted
>floppy with a /usr/Devices directory which have to contain the
>driver (directory AIC6X60.config). Also you should use IRQ11 and Port
>0x340 otherwise you must edit the Instance0.table file in the driver's
>directory to reflect your settings.
>How to use this floppy during installation is described in the installation
>manual.
>I don't know who is the provider of the AI6X60 driver (it contains
>no copyright) and I got it from the net with the hint that it has still
>some problems with external hard disks, but SB16 doesn't have an external
>SCSI connector.
It is also available form NeXT: just ftp ftp.next.com.
... stuff deleted ...
>Thomas
... stuff deleted ...
My angle: I have a cheap SCSI controller which uses the AIC6260 and I would
like to install NeXTSTEP with it. So how do I go about getting a disk which I
can use during installation ? The driver at NeXT is compress'ed, is that the
way it should be ? Will things work the way they are described above ?
Does anyone know about this ?
I would really like to know because I only have this one SCSI controller and I
would really like to install NeXTSTEP soon (having already bought it).
Any help is welcome.
Kind regards,
--Allan
--viggo@diku.dk
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 PCI drivers?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 00:41:10 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <32p1v6$bm2@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <776939500snz@vapl.demon.co.uk> <32ofg0$bl3@anshar.shadow.net>
jjfox@shadow.net wrote:
: NeXT is supposedly going to work on a driver for the 2940, but I wouldn't hold
: my breath. Talus IS working on a driver, which should be available in a month
: or so. I have a 2940 in my system, but couldn't wait for the driver, so
: I purchased an NCR PCI SCSI card from Talus, with the driver.
: Try contacting Dan Kramer at Talus 713-561-0700 (he's been really helpful)
But whatever you do, don't piss him off. You'll find out why he has the words
"POOR IMPULSE CONTROL" tattooed on his forehead.
.............................kris
Kristopher Magnusson
Manager of location #234,
Uncle Enzo's "Little Sicily"
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 16 Aug 1994 19:09:04 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <32r2sg$n0r@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de> <32qiv0INNji1@umbc7.umbc.edu>
As another sidebar:
I tried using Audio grade tapes in my HP tape drive. Not a good
idea. They use a much higher drag on the spools for tape tensioning. I
found that the drive would stall about half way thorugh the tape. (The
tapes were Sony.)
It became a moot point when I found that HP would sell me a data
grade 90 meter tape for $3 more than Sony wanted for a 60 meter tape (15
vs 12 bucks canadian)
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: akisau@spt.fi (Saurimaa Aki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video card for NS Intel
Date: 14 Aug 1994 14:08:50 +0200
Organization: Satakunta Polytechnic, Pori, Finland
Message-ID: <32l1gi$p13@spt.fi>
What is the fastest video card for NS Intel?
Sincerely, Aki Saurimaa
From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: micronics and/or asus motherboards with NeXTStep?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 09:48:16 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32q210$lph@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Keywords: no reply
I plan to install NextStep 3.2 on a PCI -Computer with an
INTEL-Pentium-Processor.
Is it possible, to run NextStep 3.2 on a MICRONICS or an
ASUS-motherboard?
Has anybody any experiences with one of these boards?
If yes, which HD-controller and graphic adapter do
you use?
thanks in advance
Martin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: How can I synchronize a NeXT and a Mac for audio-playback?
Message-ID: <CuJ4oC.2Ap@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 14:38:35 GMT
Hi. I have created a program on the NeXT which outputs quadraphonic soundfiles.
Furthermore, because the NeXT can't play quad files I wrote a little program to
split the quad files into two stereo files.
Since I have my NeXT networked with a Macintosh, I ftp one pair of
those two stereo files over to the Mac to be played through the Audiomedia II
card.
My question is : how can I synchronize the two computers for the playback of the
two pairs of stereo soundfiles?
Can this be done through midinote on commands, by using SoundKit on the
NeXT(which I don't have yet) and using StudioVision on the Mac?
Is there any other way?
Thanks in advance for any insightful ideas and remarks.
Bye.
Ze Tomas.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: How can I synchronize a NeXT and a Mac for audio-playback?
Message-ID: <CuJ4wq.2JG@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 14:43:38 GMT
Hi. I have created a program on the NeXT which outputs quadraphonic soundfiles.
Furthermore, because the NeXT can't play quad files I wrote a little program to
split the quad files into two stereo files.
Since I have my NeXT networked with a Macintosh, I ftp one pair of
those two stereo files over to the Mac to be played through the Audiomedia II
card.
My question is : how can I synchronize the two computers for the playback of the
two pairs of stereo soundfiles?
Can this be done through midinote on commands, by using SoundKit on the
NeXT(which I don't have yet) and using StudioVision on the Mac?
Is there any other way?
Thanks in advance for any insightful ideas and remarks.
Bye.
Ze Tomas.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 04:34:26 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <32s40i$gtl@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Summary: due to beta compiler??
Keywords: HP Gecko, Dhrystones, floating-point performance
I've noticed that the speed of my simulations seems to scale
roughly with the Dhrystones benchmark. I was salavating over
the new HP 712/60, with its 79 SPECfp92 rating. But a recent
post (by Fabian Roy?) rated the 712/60 at only 81830.3
Dhrystones. Can this be right? I've seen other posts which
list P66 machines at 80K to 85K Dhrystones, and P90's at
120K or 130K Dhrystones.
These HP figures probably come from the beta version of NS/HP.
Is there a chance that the version which is shipping will be
faster in floating-point calculations?
--David Finton
From: Tim Griswold <tim@dancingbear.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cannon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Date: 17 Aug 1994 04:27:11 GMT
Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center (MRTC)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32s3iv$j0@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com>
Keywords: power pc, canon
On 8 Aug 1994 17:37:33 GMT,
cs@cloud9.net (Carl Shapiro) wrote:
> I was reading Robert X. Cringely's "Notes From The Field" column
>in InfoWorld the otherday (August 1, 1994 edition) and came across this
>very interesting paragraph:
> "Since the NSA is one of the world's largest users of Next
>hardware, those guys would have been happy to hear that black is back
>this fall under a Cannon label. The Japanese company, with some help
>from American consultants, has turned Next's never relased dual 881100
>machine into a dual PowerPC. This means there will also be a PowerPC
>version of NextStep to compete this year with AIX, System 7.x, and
>Windows NT."
> Is this for real? I do not know if anybody has already posted
>this, but I was very surprised when I read this. Oh well... If there is
>anyone out there who knows more about this that I do, please feal free to
>post some more information about this. Thank you very much in advance...
Everything I can find indicates the article is a missquote. I have talked
to various folks at Canon and none are willing to comment directly on the
article. The impression I get is that they will have a NEXTSTEP Power PC
some time in the 2nd quarter of 1995, but I don't hear anything about a
"Dual Powwer PC" NEXTSTEP machine. I would expect to see them introduce a
single processor Power PC and get it stable before they go for a dual
processor. There does appear to be a dual Pentium (could also be a dual
486DX4) system coming in the Canon object.station line. That could be the
confusion.
Tim Griswold
Dancing Bear Enterprises
tim@dancingbear.com
800-221-2217
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: A few questions about Daydream
Message-ID: <CuMwIF.BF@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
References: <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:32:39 GMT
In article <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu> ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu
(Y. MOK) writes:
>
> I am considering buying a Daydream. However, before I actually put
> in the order, I would like to have some more informations. Since the
> presumed info source, quix@applelink.apple.com, is like a black hole,
> I have to ask the experienced users in the Net. The following is a
> few obvious questions from a potential buyer:
>
> 1. Do I need a seperate hard disk to handle the Mac files ? What
> happens to the internal hard disk when the NeXT is running like
> a Mac ? Will the system try to reformat the internal hard disk
to
> make it a "Mac disk" ? Will the files on the internal disk be
> overwritten ?
No! You can install on your NeXT HD a MAC-file running like free space
on a HD, just like Soft-PC does. Or you hang a new HD as an external
drive fully MAC-formated and you can use this HD just like a MAC-disk.
> 2. Are other devices on the SCSI bus, such as a CD-ROM drive, usable
> when the NeXT is running like a Mac ? Many CD-ROMs for Mac have
high
> quality audio. Will the speakers in my NeXT play them ?
You can use CD-Rom drive, SYQUEST removable also, Scanner etc. But the
NeXT speaker for MAC sound does not work still.
> 3. Will the diskette drive read Mac format disks just like a Mac ?
Yes, but only the one format, I don t know how its called, also PC
formated ones, when you need the MAC-tool for reading PC-disks.
> 4. Will I be able to use the modem through the serial port with a
Mac
> terminal emulator ?
That I don t have tried, cause I do this job from my NeCXT, but I think
there would be no prblems.
> 5. Will I be able to use an Apple LaserWriter through one of the
serial
> port just like a Mac ?
Yes!
> 6. How big does the actual Mac screen appear on my MegaPixel
Display,
> since the native resolution of the Mac is only 640x480 ?
I use the 20" Color Megapixel and the "MAC" looks like a MAC with a 20"
Display - there is no different and screen is just still as with your
NeXT, real great!!!!
> 7. After shutting down the machine, will I be able to boot the
machine
> back to run NeXTStep by not turning on the Daydream ? I suppose
it
> can be done only if the "Mac" does not do anything to the
NeXTStep
> system files on the internal disk. In other word, will I be able
to
> switch between NeXTStep and Mac OS by simply rebooting ?
Yes! During shutting down the MAC you hold the ALTERNATE key and then
your NeXT is rebooting, or you shut down whole machine also directly
from MAC without holding ALTERNATE key.
> 8. Will I be able to upgrade to MacOS 7.5 when it is available ?
I don t know.
>
> Thanks for the answers,
> Y. Mok
>
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> Department of Physics
> University of California, Irvine
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From: kemal@sap-ag.de (Kemal Koeksal)
Subject: VL & SCSI & NeXTstep
Message-ID: <CuoJ16.B09@sap-ag.de>
Sender: news@sap-ag.de (USENET News System)
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:36:42 GMT
Does anybody have ideas what the future of SCSI & VL-Bus
under NSFIP is ?
Does Next have plans for the VL version of Adaptec's SCSI
controller or Talus ?
Or is the future PCI, despite all of the problems reported ?
From: avery@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Avery Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Advance 2000 Notebook?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 07:15:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <32sdf4$gpv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Does anyone have any experience with the Advance 2000 notebook? It looks kind
of interesting, but the info they send me doesn't really tell me that much.
They were at NeXTStep Expo and seemed to have a better machine than the NEC
NeXTStep notebook. Are there any owners out there?
Any comments would be appreciated. Please send me an email copy of your
reply. Thanks,
Avery Wang avery@ccrma.stanford.edu
CCRMA (Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics)
660 Lomita Dr. Fax: +1 (415) 723-8468
Stanford, CA 94305 Tel: +1 (415) 364-5002
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:45:06 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <EiIFR2y00iV3Q5EoAr@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Aug16.174604.7264@adobe.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 16-Aug-94 Re: Problem with
the parall.. by pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
> Actually, that is not correct. You can use Display PostScript to print
to a > non-PostScript printer. The NeXT printer is a non-PostScript
printer driven
> by Display PostScript.
This is true, but doesn't NeXT's licensing agreement forbid the use of
DPS to render bitmaps for (excluding the NeXT LaserPrinter)
non-PostScript printers?
> There is a third party product called Dots that has drivers for a number of
> popular devices (such as HP inkjets).
Sure, but Dots isn't free the way GhostScript is. Also, doesn't the
maker of Dots pay a royalty to Adobe?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <1994Aug17.073111.22069@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <1994Aug15.064623.18981@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <CuKsF8.su@nexus1.oche.de>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 07:31:11 GMT
michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes:
>schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
>> Probably I'm missing something, but what could be the use of GhostScript
>> on a NeXT? Is Display PostScript not enough ??????
>You will not be able to print on a Non-Postscript printer with Display
>Postscript. Ghostscript will do this for you.
Actually, printing on a non-postscript printer is exactly what I
do. I have a DeskJet printer and I'm using the "djf" printer-driver
that can be found at Purdue. Display PostScript takes care of the
RIPping (I doubt if this is already an English word) and the driver
sends the bitmap to the DeskJet.
Willem
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: [Q]: how to fix a benting image on a MegaPixel Display ?
Message-ID: <1994Aug17.073957.22402@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <1994Aug16.111014.306@precipice.fdn.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 07:39:57 GMT
neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) writes:
>My MegaPixel monitor is strange : it bends forward...
>PS : My monitor is near my HIFI loud-speaker (2x100W at 40 cm), is it the
>cause?
Why ask the whole world if this is the problem, when you could remove
that speaker-box in 15 sec. ;-)
Willem
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From: charles400@aol.com (Charles400)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A few questions about Daydream
Date: 15 Aug 1994 14:55:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <32odm6$4v5@search01.news.aol.com>
References: <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <32mfrb$62p@news.service.uci.edu>, ymok@solaris.ps.uci.edu (Y.
MOK) writes:
Hi, I DON'T MEAN TO SEEM IGNORANT BUT WHAT IS A DAYDREAM???
I'M SERIOUS..I DO NOT
KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
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From: apl@vapl.demon.co.uk (Ari Laakkonen)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 PCI drivers?
References: <776939500snz@vapl.demon.co.uk> <32ofg0$bl3@anshar.shadow.net>
Organization: (none)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:53:56 +0000
Message-ID: <777117236snz@vapl.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <32ofg0$bl3@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@shadow.net writes:
>NeXT is supposedly going to work on a driver for the 2940, but I wouldn't hold
>my breath. Talus IS working on a driver, which should be available in a month
>or so. I have a 2940 in my system, but couldn't wait for the driver, so
>I purchased an NCR PCI SCSI card from Talus, with the driver.
>
>Try contacting Dan Kramer at Talus 713-561-0700 (he's been really helpful)
Ok, this sounds good. But what is Talus, is it a company affiliated to Next?
Most importantly, will the drivers cost money?
>If you still want a 2940, I'll sell you mine.
Thanks, I already have one (I initially had the NCR PCI, then switched to
the 2940 :-)).
Ari
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: What throughput should an EISA SCSI-2 Adapter Get?
Message-ID: <CuJxF4.K2q@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <westesCuGGpI.MLt@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 00:59:26 GMT
Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
: What is the expected throughput with a FAST-SCSI-2 drive on an EISA
: bus, and what do others get with the BusLogic 747?
Are you using the standard NS Adaptec driver, Will? Or the new
32-bit BusLogic driver?
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From: m_kakka@pavo.concordia.ca (KAKKAR, MOHIT)
Subject: MAHATMA GANDHI NEEDS YOUR HELP WITH HIS MODEM
Message-ID: <14AUG199423164606@pavo.concordia.ca>
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Organization: Concordia University
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 04:16:00 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m_kakka@pavo.concordia.ca (KAKKAR, MOHIT)
Subject: MAHATMA GANDHI NEEDS YOUR HELP WITH HIS MODEM!!!
Message-ID: <14AUG199423343545@pavo.concordia.ca>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
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Organization: Concordia University
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 04:34:00 GMT
The mahatma has improved his nonviolent methods but has encountered a problem with
his modem. WHen downloading large files(especially zip files) the cps decreases. This
This is very spiritually disturbing considering that I am using a BOCAMODME V.32 bis
14.4kbps modem and cannot take advantage of the high speed, 9600 baud, that I log
on at. This is the problem. When it starts downloading, the cps starts very hi.
Like 3000!! The efficiency rating is very high too (3000%) percent! But very little data gets se
gets sent and the cps rating drops each time something si sent. AS ever data packet
is sent, th message is CRC packet okay. This continues. Till the fecincy rating nears 1000%
I would think that at this piont the modem would work as it should but it does not. The
same problem occurs. Teh Mahatma needs help with this problm. SO please email me what
I should do. I am using QMODEM PRO configured for the modem at 8n1(data,parity,stop
and I usually log in at 19200. I tried logging at 9600 but that did not work.
Correction adn keep in mind that the max baud the srver can work at is 9600 baud.
Not only does this happen wot hte mainframe at concrodia but at other BBS.
Keep in midn though that I have multiple phon e lines in the house. I found out that I had to unplug the ohone
that I had to unplug the phone from the modem becasue it caused some wire cross
over with the other lines. If this is causing the download problem let meknow. But this problem is wo
Bu this problem is at its worts on the pavo system. Inform the Mahtma by email if
you can help me. Please. Tis is bad. I cannot retieve anything on my mainframe account!
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dual Pentium NS systems
Message-ID: <Aug.15.01.28.21.1994.2194@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 15 Aug 94 05:28:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Well there are a whole bunch of dual pentium (both 90 & 100 Mhz)
machines out there today. The prices are getting better too. The $1.00
question is...Do any such beasts work with NS? Will they ever?
I know that NS 3.3 is using Mach3.0 finally, so maybe that will do
it? If or when these dual pentium systems work, will one of the chips just be
a glorified graphics co-processor.
If I were to get one of these systems now, would I be able to at least
run NS temporarily on a single of the 2 chips on the system?
Is anyone or has anyone tried to run NS on one of these beasts?
Inquiring minds want to know :-)
Anyway, I guess all responses should go to the net, as its likely that
many want to know the answers to such questions.
Thanks a bunch,
Later, John
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From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CuJMyB.Lu@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 21:13:23 GMT
Hello,
I have a couple of questions regarding MO drives with NEXTSTEP. I checked
the FAQs but nothing was mentioned. Hopefully these questions (and any
answers) will make it to the NeXT Software/Hardware FAQs.
1. Is anyone out there using either the new 230 MB 3.5" or 1.3 Gb 5.25" MO
(magneto-optical) drives?
2. If so, which brand(s)?
3. Was it plug-n-play, or did you have to mess around with mtabs to get
them mounted?
Any answers will be appreciated. I will post a summary for the benefit of
all.
Thanks.
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
PGP key available on request.
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305.935.6325
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PAS16 Basic... hints & tips please?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 06:08:36 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <32n0p4$d3r@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
I have a Zenon machine with a 90 Mhz Intel Plato motherboard.
Everything seems to work fine except: the sound from the PAS16 Basic
that I installed is not up to snuff. I've played with the IRQ and
DMA settings until it sounds "best", but it's as if the sound data
isn't being sent fast enough to the card (currently DMA=6, IRQ=5,
port address=0x388). The sound is muffled, sounds a bit slow, and
the pitch may be distored.
I remember some discussion about the PAS16 Basic, but can't remember
details. If anybody can provide any hints or tips, I'd greatl
appreciate it.
Thanks!
john
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From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: Thanks for MegaPixel help
Message-ID: <CuJoAE.rt@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
References: <32hf04$i3k@acmex.gatech.edu>
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 21:42:13 GMT
In article <32hf04$i3k@acmex.gatech.edu> gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) writes:
> I just wanted to take the time to thank Fabien Roy here for his help getting
> my color MegaPixel display fixed. The technical specs. you gave enabled a
> friend of mine to fix the monitor from dead to fully working for less than
> $30 (US) in parts. That beats the minimum $450 minimum charge from Bell
> Atlantic for sure!
How about you submit that info so that it can be part of the NeXT Hardware FAQs?!
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <1994Aug15.064623.18981@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <32ljum$rud@larry.rice.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 06:46:23 GMT
steve@ion.rice.edu (Steve Ludtke) writes:
[...]
>Several other people expressed interest in how I got ghostscript to work with
>the HP560C, and I promised to put together a set of instructions/patches in the
>next week or two. I will post again when I have done this. If you want to give
[...]
Probably I'm missing something, but what could be the use of GhostScript
on a NeXT? Is Display PostScript not enough ??????
Willem
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From: apl@vapl.demon.co.uk (Ari Laakkonen)
Subject: Adaptec 2940 PCI drivers?
Organization: (none)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 08:31:40 +0000
Message-ID: <776939500snz@vapl.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Hi,
Would anyone (Next?) know of plans for drivers for the Adaptec 2940 (PCI)
SCSI adapter for NS. I think it has the AIC7870 series controller. Previously
I had a system with an Adaptec 1740, and drivers never came out for that
("too old" was the reply from Next) and now I have a newer system - I hope
the answer is not "too new"!
Ari
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From: vamparys@litnext1.epfl.ch (Franck Vamparys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 6x60 Drivers and Removable HD
Date: 15 Aug 1994 09:45:45 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <32ndg9$l3v@info.epfl.ch>
When I try to use the new drivers for the Adaptec 6x60 SCSI chips with a
removable HD (like a Syquest) it crashs the system when the driver tries
to write on the disk(system panic and reboot with checking...). I'am using
a intel GX. I have the same problem with the old 3.2.2 driver and no
problem with a 1542CF driver.
Has somebody been successful in using a removable HD with the 6x60 driver?
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From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Floppy DMA problems?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 01:03:07 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <32p38b$1pnn@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
Okay... the sound is getting there, but here's another question:
I'm having problems with the floppy after NSFIP is loaded. Namely,
in /usr/adm/messages, I get the following whenever I try to read
a disk:
Aug 15 18:22:34 localhost mach: fd0: Sector 216 cmd = Read; DMA Over/underrun: RETRYING
Aug 15 18:22:34 localhost mach: fd0: Sector 216 cmd = Read; DMA Over/underrun: RETRYING
Aug 15 18:22:35 localhost mach: fd0: Sector 216 cmd = Read; DMA Over/underrun: RECALIBRATING
Aug 15 18:22:35 localhost mach: fd0: Sector 256 cmd = Read; DMA Over/underrun: RETRYING
Aug 15 18:22:36 localhost mach: fd0: Sector 256 cmd = Read; DMA Over/underrun: RETRYING
Aug 15 18:22:36 localhost mach: fd0: Sector 256 cmd = Read; DMA Over/underrun: RECALIBRATING
Aug 15 18:22:36 localhost mach: fd0: Sector 256 cmd = Read; DMA Over/underrun: RETRYING
This goes on until it aborts.
The system is a Zenon with an Intel Plato motherboard. Any suggestions?
john
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From: Mark G. Tacchi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sony, FIMI NeXT monitors?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 01:12:48 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32p3qg$1h5@rosie.next.com>
References: <32oqf1$1vg@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <32oqf1$1vg@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
# How does one tell whether a NeXT monitor is the Sony or the
# FIMI variety? I've read that the Sony monitors were better.
# Could someone reiterate what the differences are?
#
# Thanks,
#
# David Finton
Perhaps the easiest way to compare is if the monitor has two very thin black
horizontal lines across the display. They are located at approximately 1/3 and
2/3 heights. If it has these, then it is a Sony.
-Mark
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From: voltmer@netcom.com (Andrew Voltmer)
Subject: A long SCSI story and solution sought.
Message-ID: <voltmerCuLuxu.H8v@netcom.com>
Summary: A long SCSI story and solution sought.
Keywords: SCSI
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 02:01:06 GMT
Well here it goes. I just got NS for the Intel platform. I was so excited
that I ripped open the box and installed it on the 250 meg partition on my
IDE drive. Everything was great until I ran out of space. The base install
was great but I wanted to add NeXT Time and the Development stuff. So I
pulled out a new Adaptec 1542C and a 500 Meg SCSI hard drive. I got the
next info about setting up the Adaptec and turned off the support for the
floppy controller. I also ran the BIOS setup and sete all the settings
according to the tech note about the 1542C.
So then I ran build disk. I had to unmount the SCSI drive because of
it being mounted as a Mac volume. Once I unmounted I could then run
build disk. Well it died. About the time it tried to copy the ppd
files over it reported out of space in Private/tmp. Ok I thought, I will
just reinstall from scratch because I have not really put any thing custom
into the first installation. So I disabled the IDE drive and rebooted on
the Installer Disk. It seemed to start up fine but when it came to the
formating portion of the install, you know with the 1 to 100 % across the
screen it died with an AHA timeout error. So I thought termination problem,
right? I then moved the CD ROM from inside the machine to its own case.
Told the Adaptec to terminate itself and set the HD to id #1 and the CD ROM
to id #2. Second attempt the same thing.
Well now I am stuck. Both build disk and a new install fail. Anyone have
any ideas. I have already called NeXT. They were helpful but could only
suggest the NeXT Answers Tech Notes. HELP !!
-Andrew Voltmer
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From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Buslogic 9xx PCI SCSI adpapter
Date: 16 Aug 1994 02:59:29 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <32pa2h$95i@network.ucsd.edu>
I saw a Buslogic SCSI adapter for PCI in a computer store the other
day. It was a model 9 hundred something or other, for about $300.
Is this supported by NS in any way?
The back of the box mentioned nextstep among other OS's but I have
the suspicion they use the same box for all their models and so
were referring to other buslogic cards already supported.
anybody knows anything?
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From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Postscript printing from NS/I ?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 02:58:43 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <32pa13$43r@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
What are the requirements for a printer which will print
PostScript documents from NS/I? Can I do this with a simple
$300 inkjet printer (given the right drivers), or do I need
to get a PostScript printer?
I'm debating between buying old black hardware and new Intel
hardware, and I'm confused about the differences in printing.
Can someone explain this?
Thanks in advance,
--David Finton
From: ablakey@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Antony Blakey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DSP+SoundCard Needed for Music?
Date: 16 Aug 94 02:50:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
Message-ID: <ablakey.777005448@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au>
Keywords: DSP SoundCard Intel Music
Hi,
I have an i.link i56 card on order but I note that it only has 8kHz
analog in/out. Do I also need a sound card to really do sound properly?
BTW: I'm running NS 3.2/Intel on a Pentium 90.
I've just got the 4.1 MusicKit and DSP support and am wondering if I
really need the DSP board. Does anyone else have experience with this?
Should I cancel my DSP board order and buy something else? If I don't
have DSP what functionality do I lose?
Any thoughts gratefully received.
Antony Blakey
- Metaphor Pty Ltd
- Cross Platform Software Engineering
- Multimedia/Hypermedia/SGML specialists
- 3rd Floor
- 66 Wyatt Street Tel: +61 8 223 6411
- Adelaide 5000 Fax: +61 8 232 1856
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From: ken@geritol.mc.duke.edu (Ken McKee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec drivers
Date: 16 Aug 1994 04:26:06 GMT
Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <KEN.94Aug15232606@geritol.mc.duke.edu>
Regarding the new Adaptec SCSI drivers:
It has been suggested that the new drivers support the
AHA-1522 board. But the readme contained in the distirbution
only mentions the following Adaptec boards:
Adaptec AVA-1505A ISA Nonbootable PIO (no DMA)
Adaptec AVA-1510A ISA Nonbootable PIO (no DMA)
Adaptec AHA-1520A ISA PIO (no DMA)
Does anyone have first hand knowledge that the AHA-1522 is supported?
How does the 1522 differ from the 1520?
Thanks,
Ken McKee
ken@geritol.mc.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: timh@pmafire.inel.gov (Tim Hill)
Subject: Adaptec 2742T contrlr
Message-ID: <1994Aug10.152817.24339@pmafire.inel.gov>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:28:17 GMT
Distribution: US
Organization: WINCO
Can anyone help me? I'm trying to load NextStep but I am having
trouble reading my CD-ROM. I have an Adaptec 2742T SCSI controller
and a Hitachi CD-ROM drive. My controller is set for IRQ 11,
BIOS address CC000H, and device id 7. The release notes on
ftp.next.com indicate that the 1740 and 1742 controllers use
I/O Port 330H and DMA 5.
Question: Is there anyone out there who has used the 2742 controller
that can aid me in setting mine up properly.
Question: In configuring my controller, I had no opportunity to
indicate either the I/O Port or DMA. Anybody with an idea of how
to set these.
Thanks
tim
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From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Printer problems
Message-ID: <CuLr67.3LB@relief.com>
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Organization: Relief Consulting & Development
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 00:39:42 GMT
Hi all:
I've got a new/used NeXT printer that I've just acquired, and when I try to
print to it, I get the following in the console window:
np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87
np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page
np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87
np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page
np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87
np0: DMA Underrun retries exhausted
Aug 15 17:36:20 relief Server:Local_Printer[4630]: Error printing page: I/O
error
It prints about the first 20% of a page, max, then dies with the third page
half in the printer.
Has anybody seen this problem before? Any idea what it means?
John
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From: webstergm@aol.com (WebsterGM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Driver for ATI Graphics XPression PCI?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 01:32:03 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <32pj0j$fbc@search01.news.aol.com>
I have this board. I want to run it with NeXT Step/Intel. Does it work?
Where do I get the driver? Is there a driver for Graphics Pro Turbo by
ATI as well?
Thanks.
From: webstergm@aol.com (WebsterGM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Do those PCI/VLB combo boards work?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 01:33:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <32pj2e$fbv@search01.news.aol.com>
I've seen such boards from TC Peripherals. Seem too good to be true. Do
they work with NS/I? I thought the OS might be finicky about such things.
Matt Webster
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 6x60 Drivers - got it working, but....
Date: 16 Aug 1994 05:58:18 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <32pkhq$jc1@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <32gdit$e7@news.bu.edu>
Mike Amirault (ambi@kaizen.com) wrote:
: DrivePerformance.app:
: 1542CF: 1.1
: 6360: .77
Just as a point of comparison, what are the equivalent results for black
hardware?
I just want to know if you have to go to PCI (presumably with Talus) or
fancy EISA caching controllers just to get back to where we once were, or
whether the 1542 is actually reasonably fast.
: --
: Mike Amirault
: Kaizen Solutions, Inc.
: ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
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From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Micron P90 + NCR SCSI + Talus Driver
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 03:26:43 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Aug16.032643.26088@bilver.oau.org>
References: <1994Aug15.132121.25151@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
In article <1994Aug15.132121.25151@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
Phil Zumsteg <pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com> wrote:
>Wanted: Experiences with combination mentioned in subject line, both
> positive and negative. If I can't get NS/FIP 3.2 to install
> by 8/18/94, I'll have to return the system (with regrets).
>To date: Can't get past NS/FIP 3.2 installation. The Talus driver loads
> OK from the diskette, the "NeXT Mach Operating System" banner displays, several "registering" messages appear (and look OK),
> then the Talus driver is started up, and returns the following:
> "NCR53C810 ERROR - BIOS32 entry point not found."
>
> A few lines later, mach complains that it can't find a SCSI
> controller or CD-ROM, then prompts for an alternate installation
> device.
> Talus has been informed of the problem. I'm wondering if anyone
> may have some additional insight based on actual experience. For
> the record, the Micron P90 (a nice machine and great company!) has
> a Micronics P54 (PCI) motherboard with Phoenix Pentium PCI BIOS
> 4.03 P54Pi-N 03. The NCR card is the '825 version (a.k.a. S1365)
> with the NCR BIOS (SDMS 3.0) on the SCSI card.
I'm running that board, but with an Adaptec 1542CF - that is on loan
and was returned because of a flaky CD-ROM problem on a DOS based
machine. The only problems I had were hanging up on loading the
Developer packages - the BIG files in lib and another hung it. I
changed the time, and I also paused the load when it hit those and
restarted it. I don't know what fixed it but it ran.
I know that's not the NCR board, but the rest is the same.
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From: clintdw@interaccess.com (Clinton Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: little green buttons near ADB ports on NeXT keyboard
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 00:54:01 -0800
Organization: General Research
Message-ID: <clintdw-1608940054010001@nb-dyna90.interaccess.com>
Has anyone figured out what those little green buttons near the ADB ports
do (on a NeXT adb keyboard)?
Also, I seem to remember a three key combination that can be pressed
to reboot a NeXT when it is hung. E-mail me if you remember what it is...
Clinton
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From: mperry@netcom.com (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: ATI Mach 32 supported?
Message-ID: <mperryCuMCCv.Jts@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <64220.seins@fox.nstn.ca>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 08:17:19 GMT
Mine works fine at higher resolutions -- check your monitor!
Michael Perry
mperry@netcom.com
"SEINS" <seins@fox.nstn.ca> writes:
>On 10 Aug 1994 10:56:02 GMT,
>John Gibbons <johng@jolt.mpx.com.au> wrote:
>>Can anyone tell me if the ATI Mach 32 VLB video card is supported
>>under nextStep?
>>
>>Thanks in advance for any help
>Yes, it works. We've been using this card for the past year. The ATI Ultra
>Pro with the Mach-32, however, does not handle the higher video modes under
>NeXTStep very well ( > 1024x768 ). For some reason, the card does not sync
>very well above the pre-stated resolution.
[munch]
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Where Can I Get a Replacement Mouse for Mono Slab?
Message-ID: <CuEHAp.2Ht@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <32dmm7$4so@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu>
Distribution: USA
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 02:23:13 GMT
In article <32dmm7$4so@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu (Chuck
Waltrip) writes:
#I have a (non-Turbo, non-ADB) mono NeXTstation for which I need a new
#mouse. Can/would someone point me in the direction of a supplier for a
#replacement? Phone/address/email address would be very helpful.
#
#Thanks.
An Amiga/Atari mouse can be made to work.
They have a quadrature output and are compatible with the NeXT.
I have an Amiga trackbakk that has been working great for over a year.
If you wan black then call a place called Action Computers in Sunnyvale,
Ca. (area code 408). THey had a few and they were selling them for $15.00.
I picked up a couple so I could have spares.
Kent
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From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to convert DSP port to a serial port? (and where can i get software)
Date: 10 Aug 1994 23:13:06 GMT
Organization: - CyberDyne Systems -
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <32bmu2$f9k@anduin.subculture>
Is there a device for that?
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From: brian@umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Audio DAT on SCSI DAT ?
Date: 16 Aug 1994 10:37:20 -0400
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Message-ID: <32qiv0INNji1@umbc7.umbc.edu>
References: <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de>
Keywords: DAT, Audio,SCSI, HP35480A
In article <CuCJCw.pK@ilink.de>, Eike Dierks <eike@ilink.de> wrote:
>Long ago there have been rumors that some SCSI DAT tapes support playing
>and recording audio DATs (these are formatted differently then data-DAT
>tapes)
>
>Does anyone know anything about this ?
>
>Is there any software that can can do this on capable drives ?
>
>Does anyone have docs on the HP35480A Rev 9 09 or knows how to get them
>from HP ? (The drive was OEM so it came with no docs at all)
>
>Eike
The only drive I've seen that does this is an Archive Python with a firmware
special done by them for SGI. The firmware special adds SCSI commands
that access audio formatted DAT tapes. It's complicated, though, and there
isn't any *simple* way to play audio DAT tapes or even get the adio
data from them.
As a side bar, NeXT could learn a *LOT* from SGI and their tape handling.
SGI has fairly sophisticated tape device management, while NeXT seems to
be stuck in the previous decade with their tape interface.
Cheers,
Brian
--
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Systemix Software, Inc.
brian@systemix.com
From: chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu (Chuck Waltrip)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where Can I Get a Replacement Mouse for Mono Slab?
Date: 11 Aug 1994 17:21:11 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Distribution: USA
Message-ID: <32dmm7$4so@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu>
Keywords: mouse, mono, slab, NeXTstation
I have a (non-Turbo, non-ADB) mono NeXTstation for which I need a new
mouse. Can/would someone point me in the direction of a supplier for a
replacement? Phone/address/email address would be very helpful.
Thanks.
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From: gast@charlie.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Gastkennung (PST))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec drivers
Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:21:37 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3305b1$k17@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <KEN.94Aug15232606@geritol.mc.duke.edu>
In article <KEN.94Aug15232606@geritol.mc.duke.edu> ken@geritol.mc.duke.edu
(Ken McKee) writes:
>
>Regarding the new Adaptec SCSI drivers:
>
>It has been suggested that the new drivers support the
>AHA-1522 board. But the readme contained in the distirbution
>only mentions the following Adaptec boards:
>
> Adaptec AVA-1505A ISA Nonbootable PIO (no DMA)
> Adaptec AVA-1510A ISA Nonbootable PIO (no DMA)
> Adaptec AHA-1520A ISA PIO (no DMA)
>
>Does anyone have first hand knowledge that the AHA-1522 is supported?
>How does the 1522 differ from the 1520?
To my knowledge, the 1522 has an additional floppy controller on board.
Its like with 1540B (no floppy), and 1542B (floppy). But this is so long
ago...
Thyl Engelhardt, MUC (me@thyls.muc.de)
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards
Date: 16 Aug 1994 07:50:18 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <32pnja$15k@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <Aug.14.20.52.14.1994.16398@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> I guess my ideal mother board would have 3 PCI slots, 2 VESA LB slots,
>and 3 or 4 EISA slots.
For what do you need VESA slots, when you have PCI? I read about these
funny mix boards with the only purpose not having to purchase a new PCI
graphics card at once. The summary was 'slowing PCI down'.
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From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: need info on Buslogic 445 vlb-scsi adapter
Date: 16 Aug 1994 20:32:01 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <32r7o1$a8d@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <ZHAO.94Aug9080915@crl.crl.nmsu.edu>
In article <ZHAO.94Aug9080915@crl.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
writes:
> I am ready to change the adaptec 1542c into a buslogic 445 adapter in
> my system NS/fip 3.2. If you are using buslogic 445 for a NS/fip
> system, may I get some advice from you? I am using the updated adaptec
> driver in my system, will the replacing of adapter be straightforward
> or troublesome?
>
I'm also considering switching to a VLB scsi adapter. Are there any other
options besides the buslogic 445? What is an example speed improvement with the
445 compared to an adaptec 1542?
Thanks
Jessica Hayden
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to get .ppd file for Sharp JX-9460PS laser printer
Date: 16 Aug 1994 16:18:59 -0500
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <32rag3$77v@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
I called Sharp customer service and they said to fax the following
information to them and they will send a floppy with a .ppd file
on it:
Your printer model and serial number
Your name, address and telephone number
Copy of the receipt or proof of purchase
Send it to Ray Reynolds at 201-529-9637.
Include a paragraph requesting a Postscript printer description file.
They'll send you both .ppd and .pdf if you ask. (I think .pdf is for
the Mac or something like that.)
I included in my letter a suggestion that they just get their files
onto ftp.adobe.com. They could email it to me for all I care. I
encourage others to do the same. Shouldn't take long for them to
get tired of making floppy disks.
I just sent off for mine today. If this works, I'll post a followup.
--
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Houston, TX
713-870-1334
kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <1994Aug16.215849.20384@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <EiIFR2y00iV3Q5EoAr@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 21:58:49 GMT
In article <EiIFR2y00iV3Q5EoAr@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>This is true, but doesn't NeXT's licensing agreement forbid the use of
>DPS to render bitmaps for (excluding the NeXT LaserPrinter)
>non-PostScript printers?
NeXT's licensing agreement requires that you purchase a license to rip to
non-PostScript printers (excluding the NeXT LaserPrinter). Some fraction of
this fee goes to Adobe, the rest to NeXT. (I don't know the details of who gets
what, nor could I publicize them if I did).
>> There is a third party product called Dots that has drivers for a number of
>> popular devices (such as HP inkjets).
>
>Sure, but Dots isn't free the way GhostScript is. Also, doesn't the
>maker of Dots pay a royalty to Adobe?
Dots is not free and it does not obviate the need for a printing license as
described above. The maker of Dots does not pay a fee to Adobe, but the end
user, in purchasing a printing license for use with Dots, pays a fee to NeXT
and indirectly to Adobe.
I'm not a business type, but I believe this is the way the whole thing works.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
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From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: [Q]: how to fix a benting image on a MegaPixel Display ?
Message-ID: <1994Aug16.111014.306@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 11:10:14 GMT
My MegaPixel monitor is strange : it bends forward...
Until now, it has been acceptable but since it is growing worse, I d like to
fix this.
The left side is quite good (5 degrees) but from the middle to the right side
it is more pronnounced (may be 10 degrees). It seems like if the image was
broken in the middle (the upper side tends to be a curve whereas the down
side is quite straight).
Can I fix this myself (I ve got some knowledge in electronic) or must I call
Bell Atlantic
PS : My monitor is near my HIFI loud-speaker (2x100W at 40 cm), is it the
cause?
Thanks
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From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <1994Aug16.235750.26755@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <1994Aug16.215849.20384@adobe.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 23:57:50 GMT
[Stuff deleted for brevity]
>>Sure, but Dots isn't free the way GhostScript is. Also, doesn't the
>>maker of Dots pay a royalty to Adobe?
>
>Dots is not free and it does not obviate the need for a printing license as
>described above. The maker of Dots does not pay a fee to Adobe, but the end
>user, in purchasing a printing license for use with Dots, pays a fee to NeXT
>and indirectly to Adobe.
>
>I'm not a business type, but I believe this is the way the whole thing works.
>
>Joe Pasqua
>Adobe Systems Incorporated
I hate to follow up on my own post, but I wanted to clarify one point. Someone
privately pointed out to me that since Adobe makes money every time a user gets
a printing license for use with Dots, that would tend to make me biased and I
should have pointed that out when I recommended Dots. Actually, I didn't intend
to recommend Dots (or not recommend it). I only meant to point out that
printing using DPS is definitely possible (and actually happens quite
frequently).
Sorry I was not more precise in my posting.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
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From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Re: To turn off or not to turn off?
Message-ID: <1994Aug16.200313.13763@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <32o8e9$7kf@news.halcyon.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 20:03:13 GMT
F. David Sinn writes
> Dave Rinker (gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
> : What's the current theory on keeping monitors on or not?? I've got
a color
> : megapixel.. should I leave it on 24/7 (with a screen saver) or turn it
off
> : when not in use? In the past, I've been turning it on and off all the
time,
> : and I've had to fix the power supply.. Any observations/suggestions?
>
> Along these lines, what is the general feeling on turning on/off
> NeXTstations (mono)? I think it is best for the computer hardware to
> leave it up 24/7 in a cool environment. As for the monitor, I think is
> would be best if they could make a screen saver that would shut off the
> monitor after a fixed period of time (about 1 maybe 2 hr mark).
>
> Any comments?
>
> David Sinn
> dsinn@halcyon.com
The so called "green" monitors and video cards on the Intel machines have
this capability. I have a Diamond Viper VLB video card and a Mag
Innovision DX17F monitor. Unfortunately the power management software
supplied by Diamond only runs under DOS and Windows. It would sure be
nice if someone could hack the NEXTSTEP Weitek P9000 video driver and/or
Backspace into using the VESA DPMS (Display Power Management Signaling)
features.
According to the monitor documentation, the monitor will recognize VESA
DPMS signals and power down from 120 W in ON mode to 30 W in
STANDBY/SUSPEND mode to 5 W in OFF mode. The signaling is achieved by
setting the horizontal, or vertical, or both synchronization signals to
inactive.
Can Backspace be hacked into mucking with the H/V synchronization signals
of the Weitek video driver? Better yet, why not replace the Dimming
feature of NEXTSTEP for Intel to do DPMS??? Anyone? Anyone?
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From: s_heidri@iraul1.ira.uka.de (Dietmar Heidrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: To turn off or not to turn off?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 10:45:03 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32spnfINNeb9@iraun1.ira.uka.de>
References: <32o8e9$7kf@news.halcyon.com> <1994Aug16.200313.13763@radical2.radical.com>
In article <1994Aug16.200313.13763@radical2.radical.com>, Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) writes:
|> F. David Sinn writes
|> >
|> > Along these lines, what is the general feeling on turning on/off
|> > NeXTstations (mono)? I think it is best for the computer hardware to
|> > leave it up 24/7 in a cool environment. As for the monitor, I think is
|> > would be best if they could make a screen saver that would shut off the
|> > monitor after a fixed period of time (about 1 maybe 2 hr mark).
I vote for turning your computer off if you do not use it for a longer
period (say 1 hour). Turn your monitor off if you do not use it for a
shorter period (half an hour). This reduces power consumption, prevents
new power plants and generally is good for your environment and your
and your children's personal health (in the long run). Modern computers'
life is not drastically reduced and outlasts the technical innovation
cycle, i.e. the time when you'll purchase the next system.
Personally, I do this for over four years with the same computer and
monitor, and neither of them shows any signs of needed repair or of
disfunction, in spite of (almost) daily use.
Dietmar Heidrich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Buslogic 747 32-bit SCSI drivers
Message-ID: <westesCunLr9.rx@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 00:37:57 GMT
I am interested in hearing from users of the Buslogic 747 EISA SCSI
host adapter who are using the 32-bit NeXTSTEP driver instead of
the Adaptec driver. What kind of throughput increase did you get?
Is the driver stable?
Regarding installation, is there a way to install the new Buslogic
driver without having to completely re-install NeXTSTEP? The
instructions that come with the driver seem to assume a fresh
install.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Hard Drive Errors - Help Appreciated
Date: 17 Aug 1994 02:39:35 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <32rt97$2f0@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Just recently, after transporting my external hard drive cross country
I have been getting these types of errors popping up on the console:
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (3,0): sense key:0xb additional sense code:0x47
SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
Target 3: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Target 3: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 2
Target 3: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 3
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (3,0): sense key:0xb additional sense code:0x47
SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
Target 3: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Target 3: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 1
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
IO error on pagein (breadDirect)
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
The hard drive fails to work after this occurs, and I need to reboot.
If you have experience fixing this type of problem, I would appreciate
hearing from you. Hopefully it will be as simple as the drive not
being terminated properly (but I doubt it!)
Thanks,
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Subject: Re: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
References: <CuG1ow.L79@news.cis.umn.edu> <1994Aug15.135737.9535@radical2.radical.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 21:50:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Olivetti North America, Spokane, WA
Message-ID: <CunE09.2y4@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
In article <1994Aug15.135737.9535@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) writes:
>Half of you that responded believe that the NeXT 68040 Cube DOES require
>internal SCSI termination and the other half believe that it DOES NOT
>require internal SCSI termination.
SCSI is like Ethernet or any other high-speed bus. It wants (badly) to
be terminated at each end of the bus, with no stubs or tees in the line.
On a NeXT, the internal drive is at one end of the bus, and is
terminated. The NeXT itself is in the middle, and any external chain is
on the other end, the final device of which must be terminated. The
internal drive is required to supply the terminator power, and no other
device should. None of this is particularly NeXT-specific (though I
con't see why the NeXT wasn't the node supplying TERMPWR).
However, with no external chain at all the SCSI cable is short enough
to get away without a second terminator. This NeXT did, though by rights
there should be a terminator plugged into the external SCSI connector
if there is no external SCSI bus.
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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Date: 16 Aug 1994 22:28:25 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9408170325.AA05089@cantina.lanl.gov>
Chuck Swiger wrote (in response to a comment by Joe Pasqua):
> This is true, but doesn't NeXT's licensing agreement forbid the use of
> DPS to render bitmaps for (excluding the NeXT LaserPrinter)
> non-PostScript printers?
>> There is a third party product called Dots that has drivers for a number of
>> popular devices (such as HP inkjets).
>Sure, but Dots isn't free the way GhostScript is. Also, doesn't the
>maker of Dots pay a royalty to Adobe?
I'm not sure Dots pays the royalty. The reason I just installed GhostScript
(with significant help from Steve Ludtke) is that I read the Dots README as
saying that, besides the $220 I'd have to pay for Dots, I'd ALSO have to buy
a PostScript license from NeXT for $80.
That $80 "lagniappe" got me frosted, since it's new with 3.2. (The license
came for free with 3.1 and before.) Lo siento, Federico -- the Dots demo
installed and operated very easily and smoothly, and I liked it!
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: Where Can I Get a Replacement Mouse for Mono Slab?
Message-ID: <CuIApC.2rx@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
References: <32dmm7$4so@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> <CuEHAp.2Ht@infoserv.com>
Distribution: USA
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 03:51:11 GMT
kent@infoserv.com writes:
>In article <32dmm7$4so@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu (Chuck
>Waltrip) writes:
>#I have a (non-Turbo, non-ADB) mono NeXTstation for which I need a new
>#mouse. Can/would someone point me in the direction of a supplier for a
>#replacement? Phone/address/email address would be very helpful.
>#
>#Thanks.
>An Amiga/Atari mouse can be made to work.
I know you know this, but the original poster may not:
Any PC bus mouse will work too, like the Logitech Mouseman that I have on
me slab. I just mailed pinouts to about 10 people a few weeks back; if you
want them, mail me (and indicate if you can handle NeXTmail)...
I think this belongs in the FAQ now, if it isn't there yet (Nathan??)... :)
--
Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@wittenberg.edu
"To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: lolo@alpha.frmug.fr.net (Laurent Azzopardi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Mach 32 supported?
Date: 15 Aug 1994 22:38:46 -0000
Organization: Slafe Corp.
Message-ID: <32oqpm$199@alpha.frmug.fr.net>
References: <32abo2$fgp@inferno.mpx.com.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
John Gibbons (johng@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote :
~> Can anyone tell me if the ATI Mach 32 VLB video card is supported
~> under nextStep?
Yes, of course :) I've got one, and it is well supported.
Bye
Laurent.
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Message-ID: <CuMurD.Jn2@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <1994Aug13.204632.810@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 14:54:49 GMT
In article <1994Aug13.204632.810@uriela.in-berlin.de>
perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) writes:
> ...
> #You were not too clear in your message. Do you want to know what tablets
> #work with a NeXTstation, or you want to buy one?
> #
> #If you are looking for compatible tablets, you'll be happy to know that
> #since v3.1 NEXTSTEP has had a little app called InstallTablet.app which
> #supports the following WACOM Tablets attached to serial port B:
> ...
> #All these tablets have the serial interface not the ADB inteface. You can
> #use a regular or pressure sensitive pen or a puck.
> #
> WACON is _NOT_ working on a black, color, turbo with ADB. Using the
> InstallTAblet will kill the machine. Are there any hints how I can do this?
>
> so long
> *** perstoro ***
> --
> ************************* NT == nice try ******************************
> *| Wilhelm Schaefer| perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de | NeXTmail please! |*
> *| NeXT EnTHUSIAST | Voice +49 30 / 395 31 91 | FAX +49 30/39547 49|*
> ***********************************************************************
Agreed. If anybody has a fix for this, please let me know.
---
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
moksha!mgb@bliss.stetson.edu
NeXT mail welcome !
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Talus/NCR SCSI Driver and Intel Premire PCI II
Message-ID: <1994Aug17.025508.18806@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <32npov$hn7@convex.cc.uky.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 02:55:08 GMT
In article <32npov$hn7@convex.cc.uky.edu> douglas@ewl.uky.edu (John D. Turner) writes:
>Has anyone had the following message while booting NS on an Intel
>Permeire PCI II motherboard?
>
>After initial booting using diagnostics.....
>NCR Timeout.
>NCR Timeout.
>NCR Timeout.
>NCR Timeout.
>NCR Timeout.
>(repeats forever)
>
>Is this a know problem or have I not installed something right?
This has been observed by a few people (including myself). Possible
solutions:
1) Get a new SCSI card
2) Get a new SCSI cable
3) Reverse the SCSI cable
4) upgrade the BIOS
5) Unplug your serial and parallel ports (sheer superstition).
This has happened to be with various machines. It was persistent
on one until I invoked solutions #1 and #2. The next time it
happened to me on another system, and solutions #3 and #5
seemed to work.
Why? Beats the hell out of me. It's probably something weird like
sunspots doing it.
- darcy
--
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it's so cute. -- Costello -- The money will come from an improved economy! --
Parizeau -- I'm an inarticulate American slob -- Stipe -- Oxygen's for LOSERS!
-- Confidence -- What a maroon! What an imbessile! What a gulla-bull! -- B.B.-
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Date: 17 Aug 1994 06:07:46 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <32s9fi$d0k@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <EiIFR2y00iV3Q5EoAr@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Aug16.215849.20384@adobe.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
>In article <EiIFR2y00iV3Q5EoAr@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
><infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>>Sure, but Dots isn't free the way GhostScript is. Also, doesn't the
>>maker of Dots pay a royalty to Adobe?
>Dots is not free and it does not obviate the need for a printing license as
>described above. The maker of Dots does not pay a fee to Adobe, but the end
>user, in purchasing a printing license for use with Dots, pays a fee to NeXT
>and indirectly to Adobe.
With eXTRAPRINT from GS-Corporation, the Adobe license is included. Makes
for one-stop shopping. (It should also be noted that high-end devices
such as Canon CLCs are not covered by a NeXT printing license, so it
is not possible to use those devices legally with Dots.)
Contact: info@goldleaf.com or +1 (415) 257-4700
Marcel
(who is biased because he gets royalties from eXTRAPRINT)
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Modem From Hell 2: The Saga Conitinues
Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:31:34 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <32t3fm$1ao@mailer.fsu.edu>
Our newsfeed is dead for incoming news - please e-mail me.
First, I've got a big shout of thanx going to these people:
From: James Phelps <u40jdp1@mp.cs.niu.edu>
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
From: Mark Adler <Mark.Adler@quest.jpl.nasa.gov>
From: (Robert Frank) frank@ifi.unibas.ch
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us
From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Second of all, my modem is still dead.
I have an '040 cube running NS 2.1x. I am trying to get a Hayes
Smartmodem 2400 to work with my NeXT.
I'm going to attempt the impossible and be both brief
and give you all the details as I see 'em.
1. No lock files. I do an 'ls -a' on /private/spool/uucp/LCK
and come up with nothing.
2. Here are what I see as the relevent lines of /etc/ttys:
ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
ttyb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown off secure
ttyda "/usr/etc/getty std.2400" dialup on
ttydb "/usr/etc/getty D9600" unknown off
3. I am trying both kermit and tip so here is my .kermrc
set modem hayes
set term bytesize 8
set line /dev/cua
set flow none
set speed 2400
set file type binary
set file name literal
set file incomplete keep
set file collision backup
set buffer 16400 16400
set block 3
set wind 4
set receive packet 4096
4. Here is what I think is the important part of /etc/remote:
#
# I hope this works.
#
dialer:dv=/dev/cua:br#38400
dial2400|2400 Baud Hayes attributes:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#2400:at=hayes:du:
a2400|a2.4|Dial-out on cua at 2400 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#2400:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
fred:dv=/dev/cufa:br#2400:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
cmr1::pn=6441710%:pa=none:tc=a2400
cmr2::pn=6441722%:pa=none:tc=a2400
When I use tip I get this error:
/dev/cua: Device busy
link down
When I use kermit I get this error:
Sorry, can't open connection: Device busy
?Speed may be changed only on an external line
?No keywords match - incomplete
C-Kermit 5A(170) ALPHA, 23 Apr 91, NeXT
Type ? or 'help' for help
C-Kermit>
I have tried re-wiring all this to work with serial port B and that
didn't work either.
I am concerned that I may have a cabling problem. I have no
desire to use flow control (is there a need if I'm not dialing in?).
I simply want to be able to dial out from my machine. I have
a FAQ written by Mark Adler that says "In general, any Mac
modem cable will work for dial-out...but no Mac modem cable
will work with hardware flow control." I don't know if I am
currently using a Mac modem cable or not. I got my modem
from a Mac user and got his old cable, but I ordered a new one
from NextConnection (now PC-Connection). I guess they could
have sent me a Mac modem cable - I really don't know.
I apologize for using all this bandwidth - I'm desperate.
-peter
--
========================================================================
Peter Lakanen | I AM CLUB DJ. I AM A RE-MIXER. I USE A NeXT.
lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
========================================================================
From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: To turn off or not to turn off?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:54:32 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32t4qo$jl1@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
References: <32o8e9$7kf@news.halcyon.com> <1994Aug16.200313.13763@radical2.radical.com> <32spnfINNeb9@iraun1.ira.uka.de>
In article <32spnfINNeb9@iraun1.ira.uka.de> Dietmar Heidrich (s_heidri@iraul1.ira.uka.de) wrote:
:>I vote for turning your computer off if you do not use it for a longer
:>period (say 1 hour). Turn your monitor off if you do not use it for a
:>shorter period (half an hour). This reduces power consumption, prevents
:>new power plants and generally is good for your environment and your
:>and your children's personal health (in the long run). Modern computers'
:>life is not drastically reduced and outlasts the technical innovation
:>cycle, i.e. the time when you'll purchase the next system.
This makes sense to me as well, were it not for the fact that you have to
remember to leave it on every now and then to run the maintence cron scripts.
Well, you don't *have* to, but while my cube was beside my bed I turned it on
and off as I needed it. That 1Mb /usr/adm/messages file was kinda big.
=============================================================================
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK)
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: To turn off or not to turn off?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 15:07:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32t93r$fg4@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <32t4qo$jl1@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
In article <32t4qo$jl1@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> devans@uoguelph.ca (David F
Evans) writes:
> This makes sense to me as well, were it not for the fact that you have
to
> remember to leave it on every now and then to run the maintence cron
scripts.
> Well, you don't *have* to, but while my cube was beside my bed I turned
it on
> and off as I needed it. That 1Mb /usr/adm/messages file was kinda big.
>
This can be easily resolved by running the appropriate /usr/adm
scripts (daily, weekly, monthly) from rc.local.
Discussions about whether to leave a UNIX computer on tend to quickly
become a religious war with the old UNIX guys appalled by the thought of
regularly turning off a UNIX system. Whether power cycling reduces
hardware life sufficiently to overwhelm the power savings is also
difficult to determine, but plenty of opinions will be offered :-)
So do what seems right to you. I know that I *definitely* save power
*now* by turning my system off nightly.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,rec.video.production
Subject: NeXT Full Motion video editing soft-/hard-ware
Date: 17 Aug 1994 15:15:06 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <32t9hq$d46@mailer.fsu.edu>
Our newsfeed is screwed for incoming news - please e-mail me.
anyone out here (or is it there?) have info concerning non-linear
video editing hardware/software for NeXT machines or PC's/HP's running
NeXTStep?
I read that the new version of NS is going to natively support video
just like audio - any truth to this? I really don't want to wait,
so what's out now?
--
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lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
========================================================================
From: ammond@eecom.gatech.edu (Joe Ammond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help needed with dead 040 cube.
Date: 17 Aug 1994 16:04:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32tcdq$gej@hardy.ee.gatech.edu>
I've got a dead 040 cube that I'd like to get working, but I'm at a
loss as to how to procede. The cube powers up when I hit the power
key, but the screen is dark. I know the keyboard and screen are good,
since they've been working on an 030 cube. I can hear the disk spin
up, but no activity after that.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
ja.
--
Joe Ammond, Geek ammond@ee.gatech.edu
"In the garage, I feel safe, no one cares about my ways
In the garage where I belong, no one hears me sing this song." -- Weezer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott)
Subject: Re: benting image on MegaPixel Display ?
Message-ID: <rscottCuosrK.HC3@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 16:06:56 GMT
>From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)>Subject: [Q]: how to fix a benting image on a MegaPixel Display ?
>Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
>Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 11:10:14 GMT
>Lines: 21
>
>My MegaPixel monitor is strange : it bends forward...
>
>The left side is quite good (5 degrees) but from the middle
>to the right side it is more pronnounced (may be 10 degrees).
>It seems like if the image was broken in the middle (the
>upper side tends to be a curve whereas the down side is quite
>straight).
>
>
>PS : My monitor is near my HIFI loud-speaker (2x100W at 40 cm),
>is it the cause?
>
>Thanks
>--
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96
>neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
I've got a similar problem. Ten days ago I purchased a set
of world class stereo speakers called Totems (~$1500 US).
They make digital from the Next sound terrific. However
when I play audio -past a certain dB- the upper left and
right corners of my Hitachi 21" pulsate strangely in small
3" diameter circles. The mono-monitor (two-headed ND) does
not show any effects, however that is elevated 12" above the
desk on a wall mount. The speakers stand 12" high so they fit
nicely on my solid oak desk. I'll probably move them to
protect the monitors, but...
Is there an engineer out there who can explain what's
going on and the potential impact on the performance
and longevity of the color monitor?
Thanks.
Charles Dvorak
rscott@netcom.com
Los Angeles
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: GEC Computers, contact info?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:08:29 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <32tg6d$fsi@panix.com>
Hi.
Does anyone have an email address or phone nuber
for GEC Computers in Arizona (NS/Intel package
vendor)?
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: ggerard@CS.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell XPS P90 questions
Date: 17 Aug 1994 16:58:24 GMT
Organization: Trinity University
Message-ID: <32tfjg$47v@tusol.cs.trinity.edu>
References: <1994Aug16.163715.14192@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us>
The Dell works beautifully. One suggestion though. Go into
your CMOS setup and change the configuration on the IDE drive to something
non "AUTO". The auto feature is supposed to sense drive geometry from IDE
drives but it does not work reliably with any except DOS (even the "World
reknowned Microsoft NT" crashes with this feature on.)
Very stable, very fast (NXfactor 1.8)
later,
greg
Kurt Werle (kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us) wrote:
: I'm about to take the plunge and buy Intel hardware... I'm sure gonna miss
: having a system that 'just works', but I also want color so bad I can taste
: it. I'd like any tips I can get on what to expect, and what I'll need.
: The (perspective) system:
: Dell XPS P90 w/32 Meg RAM
: 17" Monitor
: 64-bit #9 PCI vid card w/2 Meg VRAM
: 340 Meg IDE (the smallest they'll sell)
: No CD ROM (I've got 1.5 Gig of SCSI drives + the NeXT CD ROM drive).
: $3768
: I'm gonna try twiddling some of the options to see if I can bring the price
: down (someone mentioned that it's actually *LESS* if you let them leave a CD
: ROM in the system).
: Any tips on SCSI boards? How'll the #9 perform w/ 2 Meg (will I get good
: color)?
: I'll post summaries if they're desired.
: Thanks in advance,
: Kurt
: p.s. Unfortunately I can't wait for 3.3...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: c4craig@csn.org (Craig Anderson)
Subject: Source for Intel GX?
Message-ID: <CuovyE.IB7@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 17:15:49 GMT
I like the size of the Intel GX. Where can I get an Intel GX
configured for NeXTStep? (large ND, RAM, ...)
I'd also like to hear about any other NSFIP suitable boxes in a small
size.
Thanks,
Craig Anderson
craig@c4.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: benting image on MegaPixel Display ?
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 15:18:47 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UiIa_Le00WBKI4GnZp@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <rscottCuosrK.HC3@netcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 17-Aug-94 Re: benting
image on MegaPi.. by Robert S. Scott@netcom.c
>
> [ description of speakers affecting monitor displays cut ]
>
> Is there an engineer out there who can explain what's
> going on and the potential impact on the performance
> and longevity of the color monitor?
That's easy enough to do. Speakers have permanent magnets in them
attached to the cones, and they have electrical coils which generate a
magnetic field from the audio signal to move these magnets (and the
cones with them) in order to produce sound.
These magnetic fields will effect the electron beam inside your monitor,
causing distortion. This won't effect the longevity of the monitor, per
se, but they can cause the monitor to go out of alignment if the fields
from the speakers are strong enough.
I'd suggest keeping speakers away from your monitor if possible
(particularly audiophile speakers which have *much* more powerful
magnets in them then the tiny/cheap computer speakers you often see on
PC's.) The strength of a magnetic field decreases with distance, so
moving the speakers 2+ feet away should do the trick....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...."
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ringger@cs.rochester.edu
Subject: ??? NS/FIP Home-Brew Mailing List ???
Message-ID: <199408171725.NAA27683@slate.cs.rochester.edu>
Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger)
Cc: ringger@cs.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 13:25:35 -0400
Hi.
I have a friend who is interested in subscribing to the NS/FIP
Home-Brew Mailing List that was run at one time by Gary
L. (stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu). However, the host "beavis" does
not seem to exist any longer. The account for the list itself
(maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu) does not exist either, although the host
"mmg" does. (This information was aquired using finger).
Did someone else take over the Home-Brew list? If so, please send me
information on how to subscribe. I don't regularly read this group,
so please send a copy by e-mail too.
Thanks,
--Eric
---
Eric K. Ringger Internet: ringger@cs.rochester.edu
Dept. of Computer Science Phone: (716) 275-0922
University of Rochester FAX: (716) 461-2018
Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/
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From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards
Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:25:34 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32trnuINNb4a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <Aug.14.20.52.14.1994.16398@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Aug.14.20.52.14.1994.16398@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
|>
|> I guess my ideal mother board would have 3 PCI slots, 2 VESA LB slots,
|> and 3 or 4 EISA slots. I would also like 8-16 72pin simm slots with room for
|> upto 1meg of cache memory. Of course Id like a 64bit CPU-memory data path.
|> And most importantly it has to run NS :-)
|>
The only Pentium motherboards which offer both VL and PCI are the ones built
around the Opti chipset. Unfortunately, PCI performance on this chipset is
horrendous - definitely not recommended. Boards built around Intel's
Neptune chipset support PCI and either ISA or EISA. Probably the most
common are the Intel Plato/Premiere boards, which have 2 PCI, 1 ISA/PCI
(shared) and 5 ISA slots. One board which may also be useful is the
ASUS P54NP4, which has 4 PCI and 4 ISA slots. It's rumored to be NS 3.2
compatible (although I haven't seen it myself). It can support 2 Pentiums
in a dual-processing arrangement (compliant with Intel's "APIC" spec),
although NS 3.2 can't take advantage of the second CPU. This is the
motherboard used in a lot of the dual processor systems to which you
refer in <Aug.15.01.28.21.1994.2194@gandalf.rutgers.edu>. And yes, you can
run single-processor OSs on one processor of a dual-processor motherboard
which complies with the APIC spec.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cannon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:20:01 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <32trdi$p2i@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <32s3iv$j0@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com>
Keywords: power pc, canon
Tim Griswold <tim@dancingbear.com> writes:
>On 8 Aug 1994 17:37:33 GMT,
>cs@cloud9.net (Carl Shapiro) wrote:
>> I was reading Robert X. Cringely's "Notes From The Field" column
>>in InfoWorld the otherday (August 1, 1994 edition) and came across this
>>very interesting paragraph:
>> [...] This means there will also be a PowerPC
>>version of NextStep to compete this year with AIX, System 7.x, and
>>Windows NT."
>Everything I can find indicates the article is a missquote. I have talked
>to various folks at Canon and none are willing to comment directly on the
>article. The impression I get is that they will have a NEXTSTEP Power PC
>some time in the 2nd quarter of 1995, but I don't hear anything about a
>"Dual Powwer PC" NEXTSTEP machine. I would expect to see them introduce a
>single processor Power PC and get it stable before they go for a dual
>processor. There does appear to be a dual Pentium (could also be a dual
>486DX4) system coming in the Canon object.station line. That could be the
>confusion.
>Tim Griswold
>Dancing Bear Enterprises
>tim@dancingbear.com
>800-221-2217
I was also intrigued by this quote. I called NeXT, and ended up leaving
a message for someone who I think is a regional rep. She left a message
on my machine saying that, at this point in time, they have no plans to
port to PowerPC.
--David Finton
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:37:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32tsenINNb4a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <32s40i$gtl@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Keywords: HP Gecko, Dhrystones, floating-point performance
In article <32s40i$gtl@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes:
|> I've noticed that the speed of my simulations seems to scale
|> roughly with the Dhrystones benchmark. I was salavating over
|> the new HP 712/60, with its 79 SPECfp92 rating. But a recent
|> post (by Fabian Roy?) rated the 712/60 at only 81830.3
|> Dhrystones. Can this be right? I've seen other posts which
|> list P66 machines at 80K to 85K Dhrystones, and P90's at
|> 120K or 130K Dhrystones.
If your simulations really seem to scale with Dhrystone, then they are
almost certainly limited by integer performance, not FP. Dhrystone is a
pure integer benchmark, and performs no FP operations whatsoever. Also,
Dhrystone is notoriously sensitive to compiler optimizations (read: a
smart compiler will gut the benchmark beyond all recognition) and has
an exceptionally small working set.
|> These HP figures probably come from the beta version of NS/HP.
|> Is there a chance that the version which is shipping will be
|> faster in floating-point calculations?
The HP-712/60 has roughly the same SPECint as a Pentium-66. I'm therefore
not particularly surprised that the Dhrystone benchmarks are fairly
similar (it's basically the same gcc-based compiler either way, so the same
degree of mangling has probably taken place) and that the P5-90 is
substantially faster.
|> --David Finton
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: benting image on MegaPixel Display ?
Date: 17 Aug 1994 22:09:11 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <32u1q7$rte@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <UiIa_Le00WBKI4GnZp@andrew.cmu.edu>
>> The strength of a magnetic field decreases with distance,
In fact, it decreases *fast* with distance, in particular, the
strength is inversely proportional to the cube of the distance.
You won't have to move them far.
mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: Buslogic 747 32-bit SCSI drivers
Message-ID: <westesCup9v0.8L2@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <westesCunLr9.rx@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 22:16:12 GMT
Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
: I am interested in hearing from users of the Buslogic 747 EISA SCSI
: host adapter who are using the 32-bit NeXTSTEP driver instead of
: the Adaptec driver. What kind of throughput increase did you get?
: Is the driver stable?
: Regarding installation, is there a way to install the new Buslogic
: driver without having to completely re-install NeXTSTEP? The
: instructions that come with the driver seem to assume a fresh
: install.
A follow-up to my original post: does anyone know if the new 32-bit
drivers will work with the older BIOS version 3.31? One of the
quirks of the Buslogic 747 card is that you have to downgrade the
BIOS to make it compatible with the Adaptec driver that comes with
NeXSTEP 3.2. Do I now need to upgrade the BIOS back to 3.37 to run
the 32-bit drivers?
I called Buslogic, and their technicians knew very little about
their own driver. No one there had tested this new driver with the
old BIOS.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:29:57 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <32udil$13l@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <CuJMyB.Lu@blackmaus.com>
In article <CuJMyB.Lu@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have a couple of questions regarding MO drives with NEXTSTEP. I checked
> the FAQs but nothing was mentioned. Hopefully these questions (and any
> answers) will make it to the NeXT Software/Hardware FAQs.
>
> 1. Is anyone out there using either the new 230 MB 3.5" or 1.3 Gb 5.25" MO
> (magneto-optical) drives?
>
> 2. If so, which brand(s)?
>
Yes we have a Pinnacle Micro Sierra 1.3GB MO drive attached to a NextStation
TurboColor.
> 3. Was it plug-n-play, or did you have to mess around with mtabs to get
> them mounted?
No it was not plug-n-play at all! It took a long time to finally get some
disktabs to get some cartridges to format and work properly. I'm pretty
satisfied with it right now though. It's been in use by several people in our
lab for over a month with only one problem (they ejected it with the eject
button on the drive instead of from the workspace so the cartridge needed to be
fscked, I can't figure out how to lock the drive so that the eject button does
not function but I believe there is a low level scsi command to do just that
because the mac driver can prevent accidental ejects).
I've been meaning to post the disktabs but I wanted to wait to make sure they
worked. So I guess this is as good a time as any.
Note that the disktab entry for the 512byte/sector 1.2GB cartridges is based
primarily from a sun /etc/format.dat that was faxed to me by an engineer at
pinacle. The entry for the 1024byte/sector 1.3GB cartridges is based on an
HPUX disktab emailed to me over the net. I also used NextAnswers docs 1533 for
a template for the rest of the disktab entry.
I was unable to get the cartridges to format with ty=removable_rw_optical but
they did work with ty=removable_rw_scsi. I haven't figured that out yet. The
only problem with this is that they appear with an ugly SCSI icon instead of
the nice optical icon on automount in the workspcae. I fixed this by going
into /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app, renamed scsi.tiff to OLDscsi.tiff
and openScsi.tiff to OLDopenScsi.tiff, and then copied optical.tiff and
openOptical.tiff to scsi.tiff and openScsi.tiff. So now autoMount disks of
type removable_rw_scsi appear on the Workspace with the optical tiff.
I've tuned the disktab for space optimization instead of speed since we
primarily use our optical more like a WORM so there should be very little
fragmentation.
The disktab works with the Workspace auto-initialize routines, except that it
can't determine whether the cartridge is 512byte/sector or 1024byte/sector.
I've set our's up to auto-initialize properly for the 1024byte/sector disks,
and require a command line format for 512byte/sector disks with:
disk -t PINNACLEOHD-1200 -i /dev/rsd1a
Add these line to /etc/disktab after the cannon OM entry
# Pinnacle Micro Sierra optical disk drive
# ECMA 512 byte/sector media
# Disktab generated by Jessica Hayden from SunOS /etc/format.dat entry
# and NextAnswers document 1533.
PINNACLEOHD-1200|Pinnacle Sierra 1.2GB OHD:\
:ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#5359:nt#7:ns#31:ss#512:rm#3600:\
:fp#320:bp#256:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#1162903:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#1:oa=space:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
# Pinnacle Micro Sierra optical disk drive
# ECMA 1024 byte/sector media
# Disktab generated by Kelley Wittmeyer & Jessica Hayden from
# an HPUX /etc/disktab entry and NextAnswers doc 1533
PINNACLEOHD-1300|Pinnacle Sierra 1.3GB OHD:\
:ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1171:nt#32:ns#17:ss#1024:rm#3600:\
:fp#160:bp#256:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#636608:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#0:oa=space:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
I've also written a program to mount an optical cartridge from another machine
on the network, NFS export the cartrdge, and NFS mount it on the remote
machine. It bypasses automount and eject so you don't have to login to the
machine with the optical drive in order to use it remotely. It's just getting
stable and if there is interest I can release it in the PD.
I hope this ends up in the FAQ too :)
Jessica Hayden
Dept Chemistry
University of Wisconsin-Madison
hayden@drumlin.chem.wisc.edu
From: webstergm@aol.com (WebsterGM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:17:04 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com>
Is there any word on pricing for these machines yet? Anyone seen one in
real life yet?
Matt Webster
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: VLB Pentium motherboards & Saturn
Message-ID: <Aug.17.22.56.03.1994.10565@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 18 Aug 94 02:56:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
I realized that one of the machines in the office will need to be a
VESA Local Bus machine because of a particular peripheral that needs to be
used.
So... Please let me know if you have either a Pentium 66 or 90mhz
system on a VLB motherboard. Im interested in both EISA & ISA VLB pentium
motherboards. In particular, are there specific chipsets that I should
stay away from or try to use?
By popular demand I will summarize all of the info I got on PCI
pentium motherboards, and now too, I will summarize any of the VLB pentium
motherboard info I get. So you can stop sending me requests for info via
email, cause I'll just post to the net. Probably in a week or so.
One bit I will share now is... if you are getting a Pentium PCI system
you should demand a 'Neptune' chipset. This seems to be the only decent
chipset out there. However you should avoid, like the plague, any Neptune
chipset motherboards that have a model number that starts with the digits 82*.
The Neptune 82* are/were particularly flakey (especially with 90Mhz pentiums).
Finally, does anyone know anything about the 'Saturn' chipset? Is it
better/works than the Neptune. Anyone using a Pentium motherboard with a
Saturn chipset and NeXTSTEP? I've seen it advertised and was wondering
about it.
Later, John
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus/NCR SCSI Driver and Intel Premire PCI II
Date: 18 Aug 1994 03:12:51 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <32ujjj$28o4@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
References: <32npov$hn7@convex.cc.uky.edu> <1994Aug17.025508.18806@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Aug17.025508.18806@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>,
Darcy BROCKBANK <samurai@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>In article <32npov$hn7@convex.cc.uky.edu> douglas@ewl.uky.edu (John D. Turner) writes:
<< comments about NCR timeouts deleted>>
>This has been observed by a few people (including myself). Possible
>solutions:
>
>1) Get a new SCSI card
>2) Get a new SCSI cable
>3) Reverse the SCSI cable
>4) upgrade the BIOS
>5) Unplug your serial and parallel ports (sheer superstition).
>
<munch>
>- darcy
>--
I had this problem on an Intel Plato motherboard. What worked for
me was removing the PS2Mouse and the IDE drivers. For some reason,
that worked. Leaving them in, it was just a continuous listing
of DMA timeouts...
john
--
john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 18 Aug 1994 03:43:05 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32ulc9$e8o@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com>
In article <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com> webstergm@aol.com (WebsterGM)
writes:
> Is there any word on pricing for these machines yet? Anyone seen one in
> real life yet?
They were on display at the Expo, so yes, lot's of folks have seen
and used them. I thought they "felt" very good to use. They use
486-100 MHz chips and have on-board video, SCSI-2 Fast, and
ethernet controllers.
Now for the bad news: the pricing. The lowest priced system is
the "object.station 41 Deployment System", which includes 16
MB RAM and a 500 MB HD. The price, without software and without
any display, is $5,194. The 17" display is $1,280.
Nice hardware, but completely insane pricing.
--
Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065
Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923
Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Message-ID: <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 18 Aug 94 03:57:35 GMT
References: <31qtqj$rvp@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net> <1994Aug9.165742.25780@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>As far as I know, the #9 is faster under NEXTSTEP than the Diamond (at least
>according to my now-defunct NXBench list). The #9 can be programmed in
>444 mode, and I think the DIamond can only be programmed in 555 mode
>which gives a 15% boost to the #9.
Doesn't this only matter if you are using the card in 16bit mode? I.E. if you
plan on primarily using the cards at 24bit mode than this bit alignment issue
dissapears and the cards work more or less the same.
BTW, what difference does it make if a card does or does not use the BookTree
RamDac?
>very high, higher than the #9 at times). So really, either the #9 or
>the Elsa is the fastest video card under NEXTSTEP/PCI.
Also, the new Diamond Viper Pro coming out will be superior to all the above
mentioned cards in that it will suppor 1280X1024 in 24bits. The above cards
max out at 1156X864 (not exact). So I think the best card out will be the
Diamond Viper pro (that is for 24bit work)--and the driver should be out, I
think, with NS 3.3 (maybe a beta earlier?).
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards
Message-ID: <Aug.18.00.24.46.1994.10779@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 18 Aug 94 04:24:47 GMT
References: <Aug.14.20.52.14.1994.16398@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <32pnja$15k@marsu.s.bawue.de>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>> I guess my ideal mother board would have 3 PCI slots, 2 VESA LB slots,
>>and 3 or 4 EISA slots.
>For what do you need VESA slots, when you have PCI? I read about these
>funny mix boards with the only purpose not having to purchase a new PCI
>graphics card at once. The summary was 'slowing PCI down'.
Everyone told me to stay away from these combo boards, they are bad news, and
video in particular is slowed down significantly.
I was going to use a PCI video card and VLB SCSI card. But now will probably
wait for some good PCI SCSI card drivers to emerge and get a straignt PCI
system.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Frank Price <wprice@netcom.com>
Subject: PCI SCSI Drivers *now*
Message-ID: <netnewsCupw1s.6v@netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: Netcom
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 06:15:28 GMT
OK, I just picked up a Gateway P5-90 with an ATI Mach 64. I got the
obvious best choice for SCSI card, the Adaptec AHA2940 because, not being
much of a PC person, I trusted some dolt who told me the Adaptec 1524
drivers were the same as the 2940. Anyway, I guess I'll be returning
that since it doesn't work with NeXTStep of course. So, the question is
what to get. An earlier thread had something about a card from NCR, but
said the driver wouldn't be available for a month. Isn't there a single
driver for a PCI SCSI card available now?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.how.the.worm.turns
From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Message-ID: <Cuq12v.1wD@kitsune.abq.nm.us>
Originator: ctm@kitsune.swcp.com
Sender: news@kitsune.abq.nm.us
Organization: ARDI
References: <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com> <32ulc9$e8o@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 08:04:06 GMT
Now that we've all decided that prices are a Good Thing (tm), anyone
know what the price is for eCesys machines?
--Cliff
ctm@ardi.com
In article <32ulc9$e8o@news.ycc.yale.edu>,
Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote:
>In article <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com> webstergm@aol.com (WebsterGM)
>writes:
>> Is there any word on pricing for these machines yet? Anyone seen one in
>> real life yet?
>
>They were on display at the Expo, so yes, lot's of folks have seen
>and used them. I thought they "felt" very good to use. They use
>486-100 MHz chips and have on-board video, SCSI-2 Fast, and
>ethernet controllers.
>
>Now for the bad news: the pricing. The lowest priced system is
>the "object.station 41 Deployment System", which includes 16
>MB RAM and a 500 MB HD. The price, without software and without
>any display, is $5,194. The 17" display is $1,280.
>
>Nice hardware, but completely insane pricing.
>
>--
>Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065
>Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923
>Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
>Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: root@net23.com (A Humble Treestump)
Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ?
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Network 23, Inc.
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 10:08:16 GMT
Message-ID: <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net>
I am experiencing a problem with the afformentioned cryptobundle
replacement for mail.app, and pgp...
I want to use this to send email messages to people without nextmail...
But when I send an encrypted message, even in normal text mode, the result
is a message with a uuencoded tar attachment...
Is their anyway to make this cryptobundle send out plain ascii text
encrypted messages?
Thanks. Please mail me with replies.
Nick
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From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 18 Aug 1994 08:45:07 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <32vol3$664@crchh921.bnr.ca>
References: <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com>
In article <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com>,
WebsterGM <webstergm@aol.com> wrote:
>Is there any word on pricing for these machines yet? Anyone seen one in
>real life yet?
Here is a post that I sent to csn.advocacy:
dexter@sun.lclark.edu wrote:
>Hello, I have heard (NeXT FAX-Back mentions it) that Cannon will be
>releasing a DX4 computer that has video hardware tailored to NeXTStep's
>display postscript and will be branded a "NeXTStation."
It is called the object.station 41.
>A Pentium 90 machine is said to follow.
The Canon representative said that they are planning Pentium systems,
but because they are still unannounced products, that was all that
could be said about them.
>Does anyone know when this is expected to ship?
I think it started shipping about 2 weeks ago.
>And what it might cost?
That all depends. Like most products, it matters if you are a developer,
or student, or a regular person. Except to pay about $4000 to $4500 for
the base system and $5700 to $6300 for the developer system. Those
prices are for systems without monitor and without NEXTSTEP.
The base system comes with a 486 DX4/100, 16MB of memory, 500MB HD,
integrated LAN, integrated SCSI, integrated audio, floppy drive,
keyboard, and mouse.
The developer system has the same stuff, but with 32MB of memory,
1GB HD, and a CD-ROM.
The video choices are excellent with the built in video. Here are two
of the options (there are several more): 1280x1024/16 bit @ 72Hz and
1120x832/16bit @ 90Hz.
The sound is CD-quality (16-bit, 44Khz stereo), has a speaker,
microphone, software, and has Sound Blaster(TM) capability.
The object.station look very much like a Nextstation, but only it is
white (it looks white from the brochure). Black object.stations
will be available at the end of September. The keyboard also looks
like a Next-style keyboard (it has function keys...I don't remember
if Next's keyboards had function keys) with the cut, copy, etc. keys
labeled in green.
I hope this helps.
-Mike
P.S. I do not speak for Canon, Next, or any other company. I was
just posting from the brochure that Canon sent me.
=============================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR.
====================================================================
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: need info on Buslogic 445 vlb-scsi adapter
Date: 18 Aug 1994 14:54:03 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <32vsmb$e4h@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <32r7o1$a8d@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Jessica Hayden and Z. Zhao wrote:
> > I am ready to change the adaptec 1542c into a buslogic 445 adapter in
> > my system NS/fip 3.2. If you are using buslogic 445 for a NS/fip
> > system, may I get some advice from you? I am using the updated adaptec
> > driver in my system, will the replacing of adapter be straightforward
> > or troublesome?
> >
>
> I'm also considering switching to a VLB scsi adapter. Are there any
other
> options besides the buslogic 445? What is an example speed improvement
with the
> 445 compared to an adaptec 1542?
Here is the text of a reply I got from Tomas Hurka (tom@hukatronic.cz),
one of the authors of the shareware NS driver for the BusLogic cards:
--
Here is the drive performance numbers for Adaptec1542C,
BusLogic BT445S with NeXT driver and BusLogic BT445S with our driver all
tested on the same configuration:
Basic system: 486DX2/66 & 32 MB RAM & 1.2 GB TOSHIBA MK538FB SCSI-2
Performance with Adaptec 1542C:
write cca 900 kb/sec
read cca 930 kb/sec
overall index: cca. 1.05
Performance with BusLogic BT445S using NeXT's driver:
write cca. 1130 kb/sec
read cca. 1140 kb/sec
overall index: 1.32
Performance with BusLogic BT445S using our BT445S driver with 32-bit
addressing:
write cca. 1260 kb/sec
read: cca. 1240 kb/sec
overall index: 1.45
Note: BT445S was set to synchronous data transfer mode with 10 MBytes/sec
as maximum synchronous data rate.
--------
The latest BusLogic VLB card is the 445C. I'm waiting on the reults
of tests of this card with Hurka's driver before buying a couple
myself. BusLogic told me that the 445C should be a little bit faster
(5 to 15%) than the 445S, so as long as it works OK with the shareware
driver, the speed should be just fine. For me, a DrivePerformance
index of 1.45 would more than double the speed of the VLB IDE disk
system that I have now.
----------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
System administrator and postmaster.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
From: rmaher@unlinfo.unl.edu (Rob Maher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI cable for NeXT cube (external)
Date: 18 Aug 1994 15:34:38 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <32vv2e$2j1@crcnis1.unl.edu>
I am in need of an external SCSI cable for a NeXT cube. A cable with
the male 50 pin NeXT-style connector on one end and a 50-pin centronics
on the other would be perfect.
Who sells the NeXT-style cables? What is the NeXT 50-pin connector called?
Thanks,
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Electrical Engineering, 209N WSEC 0511 Voice: (402) 472-2081
Lincoln NE 68588-0511 FAX: (402) 472-4732
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James A. McGilvray)
Subject: 040 serial ports blown?
Message-ID: <1994Aug18.151751.20972@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 15:17:51 GMT
Hi, all,
After several frustrating hours trying to get my modem to work again on my
040 cube I have finally come to the unhappy conclusion that I have a
hardware problem. If anyone out there has had the same problem and knows
what to do about it, I'd appreciate information. I'm reasonably handy
with hardware.
Here are the important symptoms: (0. The modem used to work, etc.) 1.
Tip from a shell says that the computer connects to the modem on the
relevant port. 2. The modem will send _some_ information to the
computer; after connecting by tip the modem's diagnostics readout appears
in a terminal window. 3. Typing a command from tip (e.g., `at') does
not produce anything in the terminal window, nor does it activate the
modem's LEDs. 4. (Something I finally noticed and which led me to think
that the problem is hardware) the DTR LED is not only constantly on, but
it goes on _as soon as the computer is turned on_, before the machine
boots and before any daemons are running. This happens no matter which
port the modem is plugged into.
Any helpful souls out there?
Jim McGilvray
jim@philo.mcgill.ca
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Looking for an external hard drive
Date: 18 Aug 1994 16:14:00 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3301c8$jgs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
My 521meg Fujitsu went south - looking for a SCSI drive to inhabit the
external enclosure...anyone?
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From: hhakula@lehto (Harri Hakula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Spitfire not flying! (NeXT mk68k)
Date: 18 Aug 1994 16:09:13 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <330139$aap@nntp.hut.fi>
I'm trying to initialize an IBM Spitfire 1.05GB SCSI disk.
I had some assistance from a local guru and we concluded
that our machine can read from the disk but an error occurs when writing.
Yes, I've seen the "incomplete disk transfer" messages as well.
Has anyone succeeded in installing this disk on black hardware?
------------
Harri Hakula
Institute of Mathematics
Helsinki University of Technology
email: Harri.Hakula@hut.fi
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 + NCR SCSI + Talus Driver
Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:30:10 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3305r2$ofs@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <1994Aug16.032643.26088@bilver.oau.org>
Just an update, for anyone following this... I just got off the phone
with Phil, and it turns out that the Phoenix BIOS used by the Micron board
does not support protected mode PCI, which the driver requires. We are
working on a fix, but as of now, I do not recommend planning on using the
NCR driver with a M/B with Phoenix BIOS. Thanks!
Dan
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
In article <1994Aug16.032643.26088@bilver.oau.org> bill@bilver.oau.org
(Bill Vermillion) writes:
> In article <1994Aug15.132121.25151@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
> Phil Zumsteg <pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com> wrote:
> >Wanted: Experiences with combination mentioned in subject line, both
> > positive and negative. If I can't get NS/FIP 3.2 to install
> > by 8/18/94, I'll have to return the system (with regrets).
>
> >To date: Can't get past NS/FIP 3.2 installation. The Talus driver
loads
> > OK from the diskette, the "NeXT Mach Operating System" banner
displays, several "registering" messages appear (and look OK),
> > then the Talus driver is started up, and returns the
following:
> > "NCR53C810 ERROR - BIOS32 entry point not found."
> >
> > A few lines later, mach complains that it can't find a SCSI
> > controller or CD-ROM, then prompts for an alternate
installation
> > device.
>
> > Talus has been informed of the problem. I'm wondering if
anyone
> > may have some additional insight based on actual experience.
For
> > the record, the Micron P90 (a nice machine and great company!)
has
> > a Micronics P54 (PCI) motherboard with Phoenix Pentium PCI
BIOS
> > 4.03 P54Pi-N 03. The NCR card is the '825 version (a.k.a.
S1365)
> > with the NCR BIOS (SDMS 3.0) on the SCSI card.
>
> I'm running that board, but with an Adaptec 1542CF - that is on loan
> and was returned because of a flaky CD-ROM problem on a DOS based
> machine. The only problems I had were hanging up on loading the
> Developer packages - the BIG files in lib and another hung it. I
> changed the time, and I also paused the load when it hit those and
> restarted it. I don't know what fixed it but it ran.
>
> I know that's not the NCR board, but the rest is the same.
> --
> Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:27:20 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <3305lo$6jc@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <31qtqj$rvp@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net> <1994Aug9.165742.25780@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
: >As far as I know, the #9 is faster under NEXTSTEP than the Diamond (at least
: >according to my now-defunct NXBench list). The #9 can be programmed in
: >444 mode, and I think the DIamond can only be programmed in 555 mode
: >which gives a 15% boost to the #9.
: >very high, higher than the #9 at times). So really, either the #9 or
: >the Elsa is the fastest video card under NEXTSTEP/PCI.
: Also, the new Diamond Viper Pro coming out will be superior to all the above
: mentioned cards in that it will suppor 1280X1024 in 24bits. The above cards
: max out at 1156X864 (not exact). So I think the best card out will be the
: Diamond Viper pro (that is for 24bit work)--and the driver should be out, I
: think, with NS 3.3 (maybe a beta earlier?).
: Later, John
444 mode seems quite important. I have run a Diamond Viper card in 555 mode,
and though it's a slower card in blitting bits than the #9, it seems
disproportionately slower than the #9 in 444 mode. In other words, bit blitting
rates equal, the 444 mode makes #9 feel a *heck* of a lot faster than the Viper.
If the Viper Pro supports 444 mode, and bests the #9 in D-V and V-V perf., then
it would be a killer card.
..................kris
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 PCI drivers?
Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:36:51 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <33067j$opa@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <777117236snz@vapl.demon.co.uk>
In article <777117236snz@vapl.demon.co.uk> apl@vapl.demon.co.uk (Ari
Laakkonen) writes:
> Ok, this sounds good. But what is Talus, is it a company affiliated to
Next?
Hmmm... Not as such.. :-). But we are trying to work more closely with
them.
> Most importantly, will the drivers cost money?
Depends if we can sell the driver to someone (NeXT, Adaptec,.. some large
hardware company....) who will then release it to the public. Otherwise,
it will cost a bit. Gotta eat, right?
When our driver is finished (say a week or two), and if we can't
get a response from the larger players, I will take it to you net.people
for a little support.
Thanks for the interest in Talus.
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions (possible new long FAQ on NEXTSTEP/Intel system prices)
Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:57:52 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3307f0$s6f@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <Cuq12v.1wD@kitsune.abq.nm.us>
In article <Cuq12v.1wD@kitsune.abq.nm.us> ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
writes:
> Now that we've all decided that prices are a Good Thing (tm), anyone
> know what the price is for eCesys machines?
Prices are a Good Thing (tm), product and vendor pointers are a
Good Thing (tm), advertizing is not.
Here is a file I'm putting together in an attempt to chart the
current prices for low and medium end systems in *exact*
configurations that are *definately* know to work with
NEXTSTEP/Intel.
Folks, please email me your own contributions to this list. I
will only except entries that have completely filled out all
the configuration lines and have current (less than one month
old) pricing. No rumors, please, just systems you have actually
purchased or used.
Vendor Canon Computer Systems, Inc.
2995 Redhill Ave.
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
800 349 6007 (voice)
503 693 7396 (FAX)
800 526 4353 (FAXback)
Model object.station 44A1-AA Deployment System
CPU 486DX4 100 MHz
Cache 256 KB external write-through
RAM 4 72-pin SIMM slots, up to 32 MB SIMMs, 96 MB max
16 MB
Disk integrated SCSI-2 Fast controller on VL bus, 10 MB/sec max
500 MB SCSI-2 Fast disk
3.5" 1.44 MB floppy drive
Video proprietary architecture
2 MB VRAM
1280x1024x16 bit @ 72 Hz max vertical rate
1152x900x16 bit @ 82 Hz max vertical rate
1120x832x16 bit @ 90 Hz max vertical rate
1024x768x16 bit @ 98 Hz max vertical rate
800x600x32 bit @ 110 Hz max vertical rate
Mntr N/A
Audio integrated 16-bit, 44 Khz stereo
speaker, microphone, some software
"sound blaster capability"
Net integrated 32-bit Ethernet controller on VL bus
Bus Mastering, jumperless, switchless, RJ-45 connector
Ports SCSI-2 Fast, RJ-45 ethernet, 1 parallel, 2 serial,
keyboard, mouse, video, headphone, microphones,
stereo speakers, aux multi-media devices
Slots 3 ISA slots free
1 VL/ISA slot used by disk controller
KB Canon keyboard with NeXT-specific keycaps,
controls for audio volume and monitor brightness
Mouse Canon PS/2-style
Case slim-line case
thumb screw access
1 5.25" 1/2 height user accessable bay
1 3.3" 1/3 height user accessable bay deticated to floppy drive
2 3.5" 1/3 height or 1 3.5" 1/2 height bay
Power 180 watt power supply
Other energy saver mode for monitor
multi fan cooling system
power-on password
Price $5,194
Misc 17" Color Monitor
26 mm dot pitch
Price $1,280
Misc 21" Color Monitor
28 mm dot pitch
Price $2,197
Misc 2X CD-ROM Drive
Price $411
Misc 16 MB SIMM 72-pin 70 ns
Price $722
Vendor eCesys
Fremont, CA
800 732 3797 (voice)
907 345 5615 (voice)
907 345 5615 (FAX)
ecesys@alaska.net
ecesys@delphi.com
Model 486 Systems
CPU 486DX2 66 MHz Saturn II PCI chipset
Cache 256 KB external
RAM 4 72-pin SIMM slots, up to 32 MB SIMMs, 128 MB max
16 MB
Disk integrated NCR 825 SCSI-2 Fast controller, 10 MB/sec max
270 MB SCSI-2 Fast disk
3.5" 1.44 MB floppy drive
Video miroCRYSTAL 20SD S3 Vision864 PCI local bus
64 bit processor, MIRO optimized NEXTSTEP drivers
2 MB VRAM
1024x768x16 bit @ 80 Hz max vertical rate
800x600x32 bit @ ??? Hz max vertical rate
1408x1024x8 bit @ ??? Hz max vertical rate
Mntr 17" color monitor included
26 mm dot pitch
1280x1024 non-interlaced @ 60 MHz max
Audio N/A
Net N/A
Ports SCSI-2 Fast, 1 parallel, 2 16550 fast UART serial,
keyboard, mouse, video
Slots 3 PCI slots
4 ISA slots
KB enhanced 101-key
Mouse bus mouse
Case mid-tower case
3 5.25" bays
3 3.5" bays
37 lbs
Power 230 watt power supply
Other N/A
Price $2,574
Model 486 Systems
CPU 486DX4 100 MHz Saturn II PCI chipset
Cache 256 KB external
RAM 4 72-pin SIMM slots, up to 32 MB SIMMs, 128 MB max
32 MB
Disk integrated NCR 825 SCSI-2 Fast controller, 10 MB/sec max
525 MB SCSI-2 Fast disk
3.5" 1.44 MB floppy drive
Video miroCRYSTAL 20SD S3 Vision864 PCI local bus
64 bit processor, MIRO optimized NEXTSTEP drivers
2 MB VRAM
1024x768x16 bit @ 80 Hz max vertical rate
800x600x32 bit @ ??? Hz max vertical rate
1408x1024x8 bit @ ??? Hz max vertical rate
Mntr 17" color monitor included
26 mm dot pitch
1280x1024 non-interlaced @ 60 MHz max
Audio N/A
Net N/A
Ports SCSI-2 Fast, 1 parallel, 2 16550 fast UART serial,
keyboard, mouse, video
Slots 3 PCI slots
4 ISA slots
KB enhanced 101-key
Mouse bus mouse
Case mid-tower case
3 5.25" bays
3 3.5" bays
37 lbs
Power 230 watt power supply
Other N/A
Price $3,761
Model Pentium Systems
CPU Pentium 90 MHz Neptune PCI chipset
Cache 256 KB external
RAM 4 72-pin SIMM slots, up to 32 MB SIMMs, 128 MB max
32 MB
Disk integrated NCR 825 SCSI-2 Fast controller, 10 MB/sec max
540 MB SCSI-2 Fast disk
3.5" 1.44 MB floppy drive
Video Weitek P9100 PCI local bus
64 bit, interleaved frame buffer
2 MB VRAM
1152x900x16 bit @ 75 Hz max vertical rate
800x600x32 bit @ 100 Hz max vertical rate
1600x1200x8 bit @ 70 Hz max vertical rate
Mntr 17" color monitor included
26 mm dot pitch
1280x1024 non-interlaced @ 60 MHz max
Audio N/A
Net N/A
Ports SCSI-2 Fast, 1 parallel, 2 16550 fast UART serial,
keyboard, mouse, video
Slots 3 PCI slots
4 ISA slots
KB enhanced 101-key
Mouse bus mouse
Case tower case
4 5.25" bays
4 3.5" bays
37 lbs
Power 230 watt power supply
Other N/A
Price $4,221
Misc Intel EtherExpress 16 Combo
Price $119
Misc uSoft Sound Card Kit
Price $145
Misc Toshiba 3401 internal CD-ROM Drive
Price $296
Misc upgrade to Hitachi Super Scan Elite 17" color monitor (1600x1200)
--
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Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923
Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: edwards@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen G. Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI GUP & DPT SCSI: OK?
Date: 18 Aug 1994 18:15:10 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3308fe$pav@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NeXTanswers says that you should avoid an Intel configuration in which you
combine an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro and an Adaptic 1542 SCSI controller. My
experience confirms this.
How about using a DPT 2022 with the ATI GUP? I've tried this, and when I
try to boot, all I get are a bunch of "bios read error" messages, and a
failure to find the boot block. When I pull out the ATI, the DPT works
fine. Does anybody know if there's any way to get the two to work
together? This is on a Dell 466/ME EISA system.
Steve
------------------------====+====------------------------------
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI cable for NeXT cube (external)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 14:27:56 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <IiIuUgO00iUz43ka02@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <32vv2e$2j1@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 18-Aug-94 SCSI cable for
NeXT cube (e.. by Rob Maher@unlinfo.unl.ed
> I am in need of an external SCSI cable for a NeXT cube. A cable with
> the male 50 pin NeXT-style connector on one end and a 50-pin centronics
> on the other would be perfect.
The "male 50 pin NeXT-style connector" is a SCSI-2 connector. You'll
find them as the standard SCSI connection on all major Unix systems.
The "50-pin centronics" is a SCSI-1 connector.
> Who sells the NeXT-style cables? What is the NeXT 50-pin connector called?
Every computer store or mail-order company who deals with SCSI hardware
should sell the cable you want; it's called a "SCSI-1 to SCSI-2
cable"....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...."
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 18 Aug 1994 19:06:04 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <330bes$60h@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com> <32vol3$664@crchh921.bnr.ca>
vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony) writes:
>In article <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com>,
>WebsterGM <webstergm@aol.com> wrote:
>>Is there any word on pricing for these machines yet? Anyone seen one in
>>real life yet?
>>And what it might cost?
>That all depends. Like most products, it matters if you are a developer,
>or student, or a regular person. Except to pay about $4000 to $4500 for
^^^^^^^
>the base system and $5700 to $6300 for the developer system. Those
>prices are for systems without monitor and without NEXTSTEP.
Thanks for posting this information (deleted for brevity).
Is there any educational discount?
--David Finton
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Date: 18 Aug 1994 19:08:14 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <330biu$c0g@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3305lo$6jc@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Kristopher Jon Magnusson writes
>
> 444 mode seems quite important. I have run a Diamond Viper
> card in 555 mode, and though it's a slower card in blitting
> bits than the #9, it seems disproportionately slower than
> the #9 in 444 mode. In other words, bit blitting rates
> equal, the 444 mode makes #9 feel a *heck* of a lot faster
> than the Viper. If the Viper Pro supports 444 mode, and
> bests the #9 in D-V and V-V perf., then it would be a killer
> card.
> ..................kris
#import <std_disclaimer.h>
Where did you guys get the thing about the #9 doing 444?
As far as I know it runs in 555 mode too because of the BrookTree DAC on
it which I assume that's what is on it. The **PCI** Diamond Viper flies
on NEXTSTEP. The S3 928 chip has a read-ahead and fast-write cache which
is turned on and makes it faster. At least that was the case when I
developed the driver for the miroCrystal 32S. When I turned off the cache
it felt like the VESA local bus diamond viper on NEXTSTEP. I think you
guys are confused about 444 unless there's a mode in the BrookTree that I
was not aware of or the adapter. But anyways, I don't think 444 would
make a difference in performance because it still takes two words to store
a pixel.
Also, bit blitting is not used under NEXTSTEP. Video cards are nothing
more than a frame buffer with the accelerator sitting there. I only used
the accelerator to erase the screen when the driver first comes up and
that's it. It never gets used again.
Ricardo J. Parada
Pencom Software
Austin, Texas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harv@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Harvey C. Dueck)
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI Drivers *now*
Message-ID: <1994Aug18.162126.798@narwal.ali.bc.ca>
Organization: A.L.I. Technologies
References: <netnewsCupw1s.6v@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 16:21:26 GMT
Frank Price <wprice@netcom.com> writes:
>OK, I just picked up a Gateway P5-90 with an ATI Mach 64. I got the
>obvious best choice for SCSI card, the Adaptec AHA2940 because, not being
>much of a PC person, I trusted some dolt who told me the Adaptec 1524
>drivers were the same as the 2940. Anyway, I guess I'll be returning
>that since it doesn't work with NeXTStep of course. So, the question is
>what to get. An earlier thread had something about a card from NCR, but
>said the driver wouldn't be available for a month. Isn't there a single
>driver for a PCI SCSI card available now?
We've got a DEC XL with a PCI SCSI card and driver from Talus. Our tests
indicate that our test program can get ~2MB per second sustained reads and
writes through the file system to a fast and wide SCSI-2 hard drive. Your
mileage may vary.
Regards,
- harv
--
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harv@ali.bc.ca 95-10551 Shellbridge Way
Phone: (604) 279-5422 Ext. 314 Richmond, British Columbia
FAX: (604) 279-5468 V6X 2W9
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Subject: Re: New Feature: Apps are Bailing Out
Message-ID: <1994Aug18.170154.28914@atd.rochester.ny.us>
Sender: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Organization: Huh?
References: <32vsb9$9ll@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:01:54 GMT
Mark E. Kotanchek writes
> Recently I've run into apps exiting for innocuous reasons like clicking on a
> window or trying to paste from one window to another.
I recently had a similar problem, with another symptom that sometimes the "_"
character in a text file would change to the delete character. (a one bit
change). Later, the file would revert back to correct, but copies were
corrupted. I guessed that there was a memory error.
Solution (?)
I removed and re-seated all the SIMM modules, not in the same sockets. I
don't know whether I fixed it, moved the bad bit somewhere else, or it just
randomly doesn't fail any more.
al.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pngrinne@btsc9m.on.bell.ca (Paul Grinnell)
Subject: ATI drivers and IBM P60/D
Message-ID: <Cuqt84.B14@on.bell.ca>
Keywords: ATI IBM
Sender: news@on.bell.ca
Organization: Bell SYGMA - Systems Management
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 18:12:03 GMT
--
OK, folks. This is my first experience with NeXT.
I have installed v3.2 on an IBM ValuePoint P60/D (Pentium) machine.
Everything is fine except for the video. It seems that the only driver
I can use is the 'Default VGA'. If I attempt to use the 'On Board ATI'
driver (the P60 has a Mach32 68800 ATI module on the motherboard), it
will not sync, even in the 800x600 mode.
Has anyone else had experience with this. I am most anxious to get the
system running in anything else but *BIG* B&W mode.
Thanks ....
(e-mail replies welcome. No NeXT mail yet)
======================================
Paul Grinnell
Consultant - Distributed Technologies
Technology Architectures Division
Bell Sygma Systems Management
(416) 215-3865 pngrinne@on.bell.ca
======================================
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9GXE64 Pro (was: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed)
Date: 18 Aug 1994 13:08:25 -0600
Organization: Keflavik
Message-ID: <330bj9$9ut@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
References: <31qtqj$rvp@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net> <1994Aug9.165742.25780@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
[Non-essential bits deleted.]
: Also, the new Diamond Viper Pro coming out will be superior to all the above
: mentioned cards in that it will suppor 1280X1024 in 24bits. The above cards
: max out at 1156X864 (not exact). So I think the best card out will be the
: Diamond Viper pro (that is for 24bit work)--and the driver should be out, I
: think, with NS 3.3 (maybe a beta earlier?).
The #9GXE64 Pro w/4MB maxes out at 1280x1024 with 16-bit color but it can do
1152x864 with 32-bit color.
My only real complaint about the #9GXE64 Pro is that it can either do 60
Hz interlaced or 76 Hz non-interlaced. Nothing in between. I'm trying to
use it with the new Sony 20SE monitor, and while the 20SE can handle 75 Hz
beautifully it's quite blurry at 76 Hz. (It's supposed to be able to
handle 77 Hz at 1280x1024.)
: Later, John
Grettir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: [Q]: how to fix a benting image on a MegaPixel Display ?
Message-ID: <CuqqJ5.CM@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Aug17.073957.22402@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 17:13:53 GMT
In article <1994Aug17.073957.22402@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem
van Schaik) writes:
> neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) writes:
>
> >My MegaPixel monitor is strange : it bends forward...
>
> >PS : My monitor is near my HIFI loud-speaker (2x100W at 40 cm), is it the
> >cause?
>
> Why ask the whole world if this is the problem, when you could remove
> that speaker-box in 15 sec. ;-)
Because even if he has not tried that yet he may encounter that removing the box now does not help.
This may be due to a long-term magnetization (what a word?) of the monitor's mask.
If (!) this is the case he may either wait for several days/weeks after box removal for vanishing
phenomenon or use a static magnet to 'pull' the effects away. Do not try this if you don't know
what you are doing.
But then it could be some completely other reason as well.
Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when laying people off gets called {right,down}sizing,
== when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: NeXT Full Motion video editing soft-/hard-ware
Message-ID: <1994Aug18.184119.2626@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: DART Software GmbH
References: <32t9hq$d46@mailer.fsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 18:41:19 GMT
In article <32t9hq$d46@mailer.fsu.edu> lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S.
Lakanen) writes:
> Our newsfeed is screwed for incoming news - please e-mail me.
>
> anyone out here (or is it there?) have info concerning non-linear
> video editing hardware/software for NeXT machines or PC's/HP's running
> NeXTStep?
>
> I read that the new version of NS is going to natively support video
> just like audio - any truth to this? I really don't want to wait,
> so what's out now?
Movie Machine Pro for NEXTSTEP was introduced at NEXTSTEP Expo.
The Software is at various beta-sites now and the final release will be
shipping in September. Below is a description.
Both Screen Machine and Movie Machine are available from NeXT distributors and
resellers.
Screen Machine has received a NeXTWORLD Magazine Best-of-Breed award in 1993 in
the category "emerging markets" and is used at many large NEXTSTEP sites to
integrate video into their custom applications. The SM developer kit allows
developers to access the video functions from inside their own application.
Movie Machine Pro has now been introduced as a low-cost version of Screen
Machine. It doesn't have quite the professional quality of SM and lacks the
developer kit, but adds new functions, like video editing, an integrated tuner
and video out.
The suggested retail prices are:
Screen machine hardware+software $1,495
Screen machine developer kit $998
Movie Machine Pro, hardware+software,
basic configuration $795
Movie Machine Pro, hardware+software, including
compression hardware and editing software $1,585
Movie Machine Pro will support NEXTIME and should be the ideal configuration to
record NEXTIME movies.
More information about Screen Machine and Movie Machine is available from
sm@dart.de
Wilfried Beeck
DART Software GmbH
MOVIE MACHINE PRO
The Desktop Videostudio
The MOVIE MACHINE Pro combines four features on one board: VIDEO overlay,
TV-Tuner, framegrabber and VIDEO editing. The Movie Machine Pro digitizes video
regardless whether the source is an external composite video signal or the
internal TV-Tuner. The live video may be sized or positioned on the computer
screen. The digitized image can be stored at any time as TIFF or printed out
for further uses. No scanner could be faster! Naturally you may put any of the
input signals or stored images back to video. Connect your local antenna or
cable to the Movie Machine Pro and you have Instant-TV on your desktop. The
fully software controllable TV-Tuner provides you with live news, sport
magazines or simply comics whenever you click on your TV icon. The smart TV
software offers ready-to-run channel tables from over 120 countries equipped.
Want some more? Just start the automatic program search which will find your
favorite TV station. The software option MMStudio provides you with your own
Private Desktop Video Studio. You can "cut", "mix", or "zoom" any combination
of the live video sources and see the instantaneous results on a video monitor
or record them to a VCR. A realistic image of a T-Bar controls effects like
"wipe", "flip", and "move". In addition, composing images into the live video
is supported by color-, chroma- and luma-keying. With the MMEffectEditor you
may even create your own effects for use in the MMStudio. In combination with
the CODY board you can record and play back movies from and to video. The CODY
digitizes a live video source directly onto your harddisk. Once digitized you
may use it in NEXTIME, edit or play it back to video again.
Features
2 video inputs
1 video output
audio output (PAL stereo, NTSC mono)
PAL and NTSC support
full video resolution
true color overlay
realtime digitization
frame grabbing
freely sizeable overlay
onboard TV-tuner
automatic program search
digital trick effects
luma and colorkeying
NEXTIME ready
The Package: MMTV
Three in one: the Movie Machine Pro combines live overlay, tv-tuner and a frame
grabber on one ISA PC card. Movie Machine Pro digitizes video in studio quality
and true color. You'll be able to display videos at arbitrary sizes up to full
screen resolution. Take your VCR or any other external video source for your
multimedia presentations, or just enjoy the integrated, cable capable TV tuner
which also supports automatic channel search and an unlimited number of
channels.
The hard facts: 2 external video inputs (NTSC/PAL) FBAS/composite, 1 internal
TV input, 1 video output (NTSC/PAL), 1 audio output, TV tuner supporting many
channels from antenna or cable, overlay video up to 800 x 600 freely scalable,
frame grabbing in YUV 4:1:1 and TIFF
The Option: MMStudio
The optional MMStudio software will turn your computer into your private video
studio. Select any of 3 video sources for mixing and cutting your videos.
Using a T-bar you will be able to comfortably control more than 30
sophisticated digital video effects like flip, zoom, negative, wipe, scroll,
chroma or luma keying. Add or mix still images smoothly for video
documentations, graphic charts for business presentations, or text for titling
your holiday videos. Record the final takes in high quality on your VCR and you
will have finished an amazing presentation or company video, or, surprise your
family and friends with startling effects in your private videos.
The Option: Compression
Forget about video tapes, rewinding, and piles of video cassettes. The CODY
option for Screen Machine II and Movie Machine Pro offers completely digital
video editing. Up until now nonlinear cuts directly from hard disc were
reserved for professional video studios. The CODY option enables you to
directly store and retrieve videos from your hard disc using motion JPEG. Being
NEXTIME compatible, the CODY option will give you the next dimension of video
editing under NEXTSTEP.
The hard facts: 24 bit RGB true color, NTSC/PAL/(SECAM), 30 frames/s NTSC, 25
frames/s PAL, compression up to 1:120, full screen resolution, dynamical rate,
arbitrary sizes
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 18 Aug 1994 15:15:23 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <330fgr$n43@crchh921.bnr.ca>
References: <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com> <32vol3$664@crchh921.bnr.ca> <330bes$60h@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <330bes$60h@spool.cs.wisc.edu>,
David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>Thanks for posting this information (deleted for brevity).
>Is there any educational discount?
The prices I was quoted for educational were:
object.station 41-Deployment System $4171
object.station 41-Development System $5897
They charged non-student rates for NEXTSTEP, which was not
included in the above prices. Monitor was also not included
in above pricing.
-Mike
=============================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR.
====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 94 12:10:50 -0500
From: crawford@nesteggs.com (Michael E. Crawford)
Message-ID: <9408181710.AA01289@nesteggs.com>
Subject: Re: Cannnnnon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Since I, Schultz-like, "Know nothingggk"
I feel qualified to speak.
First off, there are two Canon companies building machines to run
NeXTstep. One builds iNTEL-based object.stations. The other, called
PowerHouse at one point (I think they had to change their name
because another company beat them to the punch with that name (a
steroid milk-shake manufacturer perhaps?)), is the company that hired
the preponderance of NeXT hardware engineers. Cringely is most likely
referring to this second company. In late 1989, NeXT outlined plans
for a dual 88110 workstation dubbed NRW, well actually Hydra. The
development of the PowerPC chip and Motorola's virtual abandonment of
the 88000 series led to the design change (and a another 6-9 month
delay) of the NRW to PowerPC. Development zipped along and was maybe
six months to a year from fruition when Von Cuylenberg (sp?) came &
went, and with him, hardware.
With the months spent waiting for some disposition of the factory,
and months spent before the contingent from the NeXT hardware design
team was finally hired, they've only been working on the new design
for about a year.
So now Company II, nee PowerHouse, is probably very close to a real
dual PowerPC machine that is some progeny of NRW. And NeXT has no
plans to port to PowerPC just like I have no plans to graduate from
high school; both of these deeds are accomplished.
And yes, a Canon employee hinted strongly at a multiple Pentium
object.station at NeXTstep Expo.
Confusing? Of course. We're computer professionals. We're paid to be
confused. That's what makes moments of elucidation so exciting.
I look forward to my next such moment.
Michael Crawford
nesteggs
Houston
>From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)>Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:20:01 GMT
>
>Tim Griswold <tim@dancingbear.com> writes:
>
>>On 8 Aug 1994 17:37:33 GMT,
>>cs@cloud9.net (Carl Shapiro) wrote:
>
>>>I was reading Robert X. Cringely's "Notes From The Field" column
>>>in InfoWorld the otherday (August 1, 1994) and came across this
>>>very interesting paragraph:
>>> [...] This means there will also be a PowerPC
>>>version of NextStep to compete this year with AIX, System 7.x, and
>>>Windows NT."
>
>>Everything I can find indicates the article is a missquote. I have
>>talked to various folks at Canon and none are willing to comment
.... [snip, snip]
>>Tim Griswold
>>Dancing Bear Enterprises
>>tim@dancingbear.com
>>800-221-2217
>
>I was also intrigued by this quote. I called NeXT, and ended up
> leaving a message for someone who I think is a regional rep. She
>left a message on my machine saying that, at this point in time,
>they have no plans to port to PowerPC.
>
>--David Finton
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 040 serial ports blown?
Date: 18 Aug 1994 16:51:51 -0400
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Sender: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu
Message-ID: <330hl7$nem@acmez.gatech.edu>
References: <1994Aug18.151751.20972@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Aug18.151751.20972@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> jim@philo.mcgill.ca(James A. McGilvray) writes:
:Hi, all,
:
:After several frustrating hours trying to get my modem to work again on my
:040 cube I have finally come to the unhappy conclusion that I have a
[chomp]
:
:Here are the important symptoms: (0. The modem used to work, etc.) 1.
:Tip from a shell says that the computer connects to the modem on the
:relevant port. 2. The modem will send _some_ information to the
:computer; after connecting by tip the modem's diagnostics readout appears
:in a terminal window. 3. Typing a command from tip (e.g., `at') does
:not produce anything in the terminal window, nor does it activate the
:modem's LEDs. 4. (Something I finally noticed and which led me to think
:that the problem is hardware) the DTR LED is not only constantly on, but
:it goes on _as soon as the computer is turned on_, before the machine
:boots and before any daemons are running. This happens no matter which
:port the modem is plugged into.
Well.. as for #4, my DTR LED is always on constantly, and comes on as soon
as the computer turns on, yet my modem works perfectly (hayes smartmodem
2400).
Have you tried another cable? It could be as simple as that. I was using a
bad cable and had similar symptoms on a PC.
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332
CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202
Internet: gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu -- NeXT Mail welcome
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Date: 18 Aug 1994 21:19:20 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <330j8o$jmd@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3305lo$6jc@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Kristopher Jon Magnusson (kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu) wrote:
: 444 mode seems quite important. I have run a Diamond Viper card in 555 mode,
: and though it's a slower card in blitting bits than the #9, it seems
: disproportionately slower than the #9 in 444 mode. In other words, bit blitting
: rates equal, the 444 mode makes #9 feel a *heck* of a lot faster than the Viper.
: If the Viper Pro supports 444 mode, and bests the #9 in D-V and V-V perf., then
: it would be a killer card.
I've seen this before in some of the NextAnswers.
What *are* the D-V and V-V numbers? Better is higher or lower?
: ..................kris
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com (Phil Zumsteg)
Subject: Micron P90 + NCR SCSI + Talus Driver - ANSWER
Message-ID: <1994Aug18.222304.22772@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: Honeywell/HBC
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 22:23:04 GMT
Thanks to Dan and Alexey from Talus, who were technically correct
and timely (in spite of time zone differences and short sleep
cycles) with answers to the many detailed questions it took to
resolve this issue.
Micronics reports they are working on "completing" the PCI BIOS32
software, but were unable to provide an available date, and it took
a BIG push at Micronics to get accurate answers. Translated - I
provided them an 8 page report (including exerpts from the PCI
Spec. 2.0) detailing the problem and what was missing in their
BIOS.
Note that the latest BIOS for the Micron P90 is identified by
Micronics as "M54Pi-N 08", which is based on the Phoenix 4.04
Pentium PCI BIOS. The date of the 'N 08 release is 8/15/94.
Since Micronics has a source license for the Phoenix BIOS,
which they subsequently modify, they are the ONLY point of
contact for this problem.
BTW - I was able to install NS/FIP 3.2 using an Adaptec 1542B
(but is it ever slooooooow compared to the NCR SCSI card) which
runs happily in it's ISA slot, and the NCR in it's PCI slot
(with no devices attached). Qualitative speed difference (under
MS-DOS/WFW 3.11) is that the NCR/SCSI 53c825 card is 3-5 X faster
than the Adaptec.
Many thanks again for the great help from Talus,
Phil Zumsteg.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <CuoLJD.pJ@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <1994Aug16.174604.7264@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 13:30:48 GMT
In article <1994Aug16.174604.7264@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
writes:
> In article <CuKsF8.su@nexus1.oche.de> michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael
Pieper)
> writes:
> >You will not be able to print on a Non-Postscript printer with Display
> >Postscript. Ghostscript will do this for you.
>
> Actually, that is not correct. You can use Display PostScript
> to print to a non-PostScript printer. The NeXT printer is a
> non-PostScript printer driven by Display PostScript. There
> is a third party product called Dots that has drivers for a
> number of popular devices (such as HP inkjets).
>
Sure. But you will not be able to print with NeXTstep on a non-PostScript
Printer without a third party product. A NeXT printer will only work
together with a original NeXT computer.
Dots is a third party product like Ghostscript or djf (this works fine for
HP Deskjets) etc. But Dots will cost you real money, while Gostscript and
djf are free. That's the difference (maybe Dots is easier to install, but
I never tried).
Bye, Michael
--
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*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Problem with the parallel port and printing - the Answer
Message-ID: <CuoLxp.sL@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <1994Aug17.073111.22069@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 13:39:23 GMT
In article <1994Aug17.073111.22069@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> >You will not be able to print on a Non-Postscript printer with Display
> >Postscript. Ghostscript will do this for you.
>
> Actually, printing on a non-postscript printer is exactly what I
> do. I have a DeskJet printer and I'm using the "djf" printer-driver
> that can be found at Purdue. Display PostScript takes care of the
> RIPping (I doubt if this is already an English word) and the driver
> sends the bitmap to the DeskJet.
djf works only with the HP Deskjet! And I think, it uses some GhostScript
code, too ;-) Of course it works fine.
Bye, Michael
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*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec drivers
Date: 18 Aug 1994 23:42:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <330rle$27n@rosie.next.com>
References: <KEN.94Aug15232606@geritol.mc.duke.edu>
In article <KEN.94Aug15232606@geritol.mc.duke.edu> ken@geritol.mc.duke.edu
(Ken McKee) writes:
:Regarding the new Adaptec SCSI drivers:
:
:It has been suggested that the new drivers support the
:AHA-1522 board. But the readme contained in the distirbution
:only mentions the following Adaptec boards:
:
: Adaptec AVA-1505A ISA Nonbootable PIO (no DMA)
: Adaptec AVA-1510A ISA Nonbootable PIO (no DMA)
: Adaptec AHA-1520A ISA PIO (no DMA)
:
:Does anyone have first hand knowledge that the AHA-1522 is supported?
:How does the 1522 differ from the 1520?
As is typical for Adaptec's card-naming conventions, the only difference
between the 1522 and the 1520 is that the 1522 adds a floppy controller.
So yes, the 1522 will work. (Note that NeXT does not certify floppy
controllers on SCSI adapters at this time.)
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
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From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: Syquest 270mb 3.5" removable HD
Message-ID: <CuMKK6.IG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Touga Management SA, Switzerland
References: <32g2eu$7dr@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 11:14:30 GMT
In article <32g2eu$7dr@ratatosk.uninett.no> jan@altus.no (Jan Bratbak)
writes:
> Hi,
> I only get 221 mb of formatted space on these 270 mb cartridges. It
seams
> like loosing 50 mb in the formatting phase is a bit too much. Does
anyone
> have any experience with this type of drive?
Hi Jan,
I'm using external SyQuest too and I seem to have only 221MB as well.
But launch Terminal.app and then type df. You'll see that for your
SyQuest, you now have something like 245MB even though Workspace shows
only 221MB. Now, there is something else I'd like to try and it's sdformat
that allows you to format any SCSI device with 1024bytes blocks. That
should increase both the speed and the available space. Unfortunately, I
have no free SyQuest cartridge anymore to do the test.
As soon as I'll try it, I'll send you the results.
Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
--
Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
From: phyd@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody had troubles with the #9 GXE Level 14 (4Mb) LocalBus?
Date: 19 Aug 1994 00:40:37 GMT
Organization: InterAccess Co.
Message-ID: <330v25$un@nntp.interaccess.com>
I tried like crazy to use NeXT's new Number 9 GXE driver to get my
lovely 4Mb Level 14 card working. It's a local bus card on an ALR
Evolution V Pentium machine. I've got 64Mb installed.
On booting it has some kind of trouble loading some kind of code
segment onto the board, claiming it can't find the file it needs.
This all happens before the machine actually gets into graphics mode,
and eventually causes a kernel panic.
NeXT hasn't a clue on this one, they logged it, but couldn't help.
Any ideas?
- Brian.
From: phyd@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9GXE level 14 (4meg) problems..
Date: 19 Aug 1994 00:48:12 GMT
Organization: InterAccess Co.
Message-ID: <330vgc$vg@nntp.interaccess.com>
References: <32lu6u$opo@coyote.csusm.edu>
In article <32lu6u$opo@coyote.csusm.edu>,
Joshua Bardt <3josh@coyote.csusm.edu> wrote:
>
>Is anyone else having problems getting the #9gxe drivers
>to work with the new drivers on ftp.next.com?
>
See my other posting in this group - I've also had almost
identical problems. NeXT claims they've had no other reports of
problems with this card, so here you go NeXT - you have at least
two people who can't get your #9 GXE (4Mb) driver to work!
- Brian.
From: jjfox@shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI Drivers *now*
Date: 19 Aug 1994 04:31:49 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <331cjl$ald@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <netnewsCupw1s.6v@netcom.com>
In article <netnewsCupw1s.6v@netcom.com>, Frank Price <wprice@netcom.com> says:
>
>OK, I just picked up a Gateway P5-90 with an ATI Mach 64. I got the
>obvious best choice for SCSI card, the Adaptec AHA2940 because, not being
>much of a PC person, I trusted some dolt who told me the Adaptec 1524
>drivers were the same as the 2940. Anyway, I guess I'll be returning
>that since it doesn't work with NeXTStep of course. So, the question is
>what to get. An earlier thread had something about a card from NCR, but
>said the driver wouldn't be available for a month. Isn't there a single
>driver for a PCI SCSI card available now?
WARNING: The NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI card and driver from Talus DOES
NOT WORK on Gateway P5-90's. I received this card yesterday from Talus,
and attempted to install NeXTstep with it, only to get an error - BIOS32 ENTRY
POINT NOT FOUND - NO SCSI CONTROLLER FOUND. Apparently, this is due
to the system BIOS's lack of support for protected-mode PCI BIOS access.
There will be drivers for the Adaptec 2940 from both Talus and NeXT in a month
or so. In the meantime, I am using an Adaptec 1510A ISA card (uses the 6360
chipset, retail $80) to install NeXTstep. The driver for this card can now be
obtained from NeXTanswers. A driver for the Mach 64 can also be obtained
from Talus.
I'm holding on to my 2940 until the drivers become available, and until then,
I am running NeXTstep off of the IDE drive.
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What are practical faxmodem/software combos (3.0 black)?
Date: 19 Aug 1994 06:55:46 GMT
Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Aug19025546@acs3.bu.edu>
Would someone explain how I might use a faxmodem with my cube running 3.0?
I found nothing useful in NeXTanswers, and my online dox refer me to the User's
Manual, which I have never seen in my life.
From memory, I know that there are a precious few, expensive faxmodems, such as
DoveFax, that work nicely with the FaXreader app, and the standard Print panel.
I do not need any of that. Is there any other way?
What I hope for is to use a nice cheap 14.4 faxmodem on a serial port, and some
Unix-level daemon sending and receiving faxes sort of like a mail daemon with
some ability to manipulate the modem, and to convert whatever-format fax data
into TIFF, GIF, EPS-bitmap, or something viewable on my NeXT. Is this asking
too much from my $12000 tower of obsoleteness?
I know my Unix system administration, but I know nix about faxing. Any
information at all would be appreciated.
Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Message-ID: <CuqJow.5Jz@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 14:46:08 GMT
In article <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
> >As far as I know, the #9 is faster under NEXTSTEP than the Diamond (at
least
> >according to my now-defunct NXBench list). The #9 can be programmed in
> >444 mode, and I think the DIamond can only be programmed in 555 mode
> >which gives a 15% boost to the #9.
>
> Doesn't this only matter if you are using the card in 16bit mode? I.E. if
you
> plan on primarily using the cards at 24bit mode than this bit alignment
issue
> dissapears and the cards work more or less the same.
>
> BTW, what difference does it make if a card does or does not use the
BookTree
> RamDac?
>
> >very high, higher than the #9 at times). So really, either the #9 or
> >the Elsa is the fastest video card under NEXTSTEP/PCI.
>
> Also, the new Diamond Viper Pro coming out will be superior to all the above
> mentioned cards in that it will suppor 1280X1024 in 24bits. The above cards
> max out at 1156X864 (not exact). So I think the best card out will be the
> Diamond Viper pro (that is for 24bit work)--and the driver should be out, I
> think, with NS 3.3 (maybe a beta earlier?).
>
> Later, John
>
Both miro and elsa have cards that will do 1280x1024 as well. Elsa is
shipping, I think ( the driver is available on NeXT answers), and miro will be
rsn.
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Re: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
Message-ID: <1994Aug18.141011.19799@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <CunE09.2y4@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 14:10:11 GMT
Jim Cathey writes
> Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung) writes:
> > Half of you that responded believe that the NeXT 68040 Cube
> > DOES require internal SCSI termination and the other half
> > believe that it DOES NOT require internal SCSI termination.
>
> SCSI is like Ethernet or any other high-speed bus. It wants (badly) to
> be terminated at each end of the bus, with no stubs or tees in the line.
> On a NeXT, the internal drive is at one end of the bus, and is
> terminated. The NeXT itself is in the middle, and any external chain is
> on the other end, the final device of which must be terminated. The
> internal drive is required to supply the terminator power, and no other
> device should. None of this is particularly NeXT-specific (though I
> con't see why the NeXT wasn't the node supplying TERMPWR).
>
I obtained the documentation for the original, deceased Maxtor XT-838S
drive that I removed from the NeXT. There were 2 jumpers (JP34 & JP41)
identically labeled just "Termination Power." I assume one is "supply to
bus" and one is "get from bus." Of couse, one jumper (JP41) is set and I
don't know what it was doing. I would tend to agree with you that it was
probably "supplying to bus."
>
> However, with no external chain at all the SCSI cable is short enough
> to get away without a second terminator. This NeXT did, though by
rights
> there should be a terminator plugged into the external SCSI connector
> if there is no external SCSI bus.
>
I now have the opposite configuration. I have no internal termination and
I have a Fujitsu M2266SA disk drive in an external case with an external
terminator. I can't seem to locate a source for the documentation on the
Fujitsu jumpers. I would like to terminate the Fujitsu and move it inside
the NeXT. My co-worker is returning my SCSI floppy drive and I am adding
a tape drive to the system next week. I think I am going to need the
internal termination for this configuration.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from
the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Notebook computers
Message-ID: <2927@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Date: 19 Aug 94 09:22:05 GMT
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
I am currently looking for a decent notebook computer that can run
NeXTstep. What are the options currently? How do you install NeXTstep
if it isn't on the disk already? Will it be easy to add an ethernet card
and/or a SCSI card?
Thanks in advance
Jos Vermaseren
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Modem From Hell 3: The Conclusion
Date: 19 Aug 1994 06:20:44 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <331ivs$bs0@mailer.fsu.edu>
The modem worx!!
I want thank all of the wondeful people out here who helped me out.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
P.S. Gee, my 2400 is kinda slow, how hard should it be to upgrade
and what kind of modems should I avoid? Anyone know any that
are both still available and work with a cube? Either 9600
or 14.4 would be great!
--
========================================================================
Peter Lakanen | I AM CLUB DJ. I AM A RE-MIXER. I USE A NeXT.
lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
========================================================================
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From: jurgen.baier@dns1.cim.ch (Juergen Baier)
Subject: Speedstar pro at 70 Hz (Cirrus Logic GD5428 VLB)
Message-ID: <jurgen.baier.34.000E17A4@dns1.cim.ch>
Sender: news@unifr.ch (User for news)
Organization: University of Fribourg - CH
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 13:05:26 GMT
I would like to run my Speedstar Pro (Cirrus Logic GD5428 VLB)
at 70Hz instead of 60 Hz since I have a good Monitor.
My favorite screen resolution would be 800x600 with 256 Colors
at 70 Hz.
Is there a driver or is it possible to change to existing one.
Juergen
E-Mail jurgen.baier@capps.cim.ch
-----------------------------------------
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CIM-Project Switzerland
Rte Mont Carmel 1
1752 Givisiez / Switzerland
tel +41 37 266 121 fax +41 37 267 414
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From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: DPT SCSI-2 Cards & NS/Fip 3.3
Message-ID: <1994Aug19.143408.29024@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchicago strn fanclub
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:34:08 GMT
Does anyone know if the DPT 2322/95 is going to be supported under NS3.3?
(Or is it already supported with the DPT2022b driver?)
Also, the NeXTSTEP Hardware Configuration guide says that the Floppy drives
are not supported on the /95 cards. Does this mean that there is no way to
use the Floppy drives, or just that the calls to the Floppy drives needs to
go through BIOS and therefore takes longer?
Will this change in 3.3?
Thanks,
Larry.
--
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: randy@text3.psych.umn.edu (Charles R. Fletcher)
Subject: Supra FAXModem
Message-ID: <CusI5M.LyB@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:10:24 GMT
Can anyone tell me if a Supra FAXModem 144LC will work
with NS 3.0 on a NeXTstation? If so, will the Mac
cable that comes with it suffice or will I need a new
cable? Faxing capability would be a nice extra, but I'm
primarily interested in data. Thanks in advance--
Randy Fletcher
randy@text3.psych.umn.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diamond Viper Pro vs ATI GUP Turbo
Message-ID: <Aug.19.19.54.18.1994.21842@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 19 Aug 94 23:54:19 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
These two cards are probably the best cards out on the market right now. Both
can support 1280X1024 in 24bit mode. What I want to know is, which of the
two is better and/or faster than the other. Both cost about the same.
This is what I know about the two cards, but am not sure what to make of this
info:
ATI GUP Turbo:
- Kills com4 - its rom overlaps com4's address. This is obviously bad
but maybe all cards in this class have to do this??? You can
re-assign com4--not to mention I don't even think NS supports com4
- it uses packed pixel technology to get 24bit in 1280X1024. It gets
rid of an 8bit channel of alpha to achieve this resolution. But
maybe the viper does this also?
+ it uses a true 64bit chip (i think)
+ includes built in video playback enhancer. Will it even work with
NS?
Viper Pro:
- Uses interleaved 32bit memory to appear like it 64bit
- Uses a 32 bit chip, Weitek 9100
- For $100.00 more you can add in a video playback enhancer that works
better than the ATI's. Will this even work under NS?
So which is better under NeXTSTEP. i.e. faster. Will both do 1280X1024 under
NeXTSTEP? I checked out the latest computer shopper, which was no help. It
didn't do a comparison between the Viper Pro and the ATI GUPT.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jasch@gorga.en.open.de (Jacques Schmitz)
Subject: Wanted: defect NeXT 17" Fimi Color Monitor
Message-ID: <Cusuyo.2rp@gorga.en.open.de>
Organization: ScanArt, Vianden, Luxembourg
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 20:44:47 GMT
I'am looking for a defect 17" Megapixel Color Monitor. Power Supply out of order or somthing else.
I can't give you a lot of money, but I surely pay the shiping.
Ciao
email: jasch@gorga.en.open.de
--
bb
Jacques
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI Drivers *now*
Date: 20 Aug 1994 03:58:09 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <333v0h$2ej@packer.eps.com>
References: <331cjl$ald@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <331cjl$ald@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
writes:
> In article <netnewsCupw1s.6v@netcom.com>, Frank Price
<wprice@netcom.com> says:
> >
> >OK, I just picked up a Gateway P5-90 with an ATI Mach 64. I got the
> >obvious best choice for SCSI card, the Adaptec AHA2940 because, not
being
> >much of a PC person, I trusted some dolt who told me the Adaptec 1524
> >drivers were the same as the 2940. Anyway, I guess I'll be returning
> >that since it doesn't work with NeXTStep of course. So, the question
is
> >what to get. An earlier thread had something about a card from NCR,
but
> >said the driver wouldn't be available for a month. Isn't there a
single
> >driver for a PCI SCSI card available now?
>
> WARNING: The NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI card and driver from Talus DOES
> NOT WORK on Gateway P5-90's. I received this card yesterday from Talus,
> and attempted to install NeXTstep with it, only to get an error - BIOS32
ENTRY
> POINT NOT FOUND - NO SCSI CONTROLLER FOUND. Apparently, this is due
> to the system BIOS's lack of support for protected-mode PCI BIOS access.
> There will be drivers for the Adaptec 2940 from both Talus and NeXT in a
month
> or so. In the meantime, I am using an Adaptec 1510A ISA card (uses the
6360
> chipset, retail $80) to install NeXTstep. The driver for this card can
now be
> obtained from NeXTanswers. A driver for the Mach 64 can also be obtained
> from Talus.
>
> I'm holding on to my 2940 until the drivers become available, and until
then,
> I am running NeXTstep off of the IDE drive.
Hmm.. I'm using a GW 2000 P5-90 with the NCR 53c810 pci scsi card and it's
working fine.. I am using bios ver. 1.something 8. I know that the bios
shipped from Gateway does not support NCR PCI scsi. And also they posted
ver 9 bios on there bbs and also does not support NCR PCI scsi.. I got the
ami bios off the Intel BBS for the Plato MB..
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Message-ID: <1994Aug20.014326.3840@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Keywords: HP Gecko, Dhrystones, floating-point performance
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <32s40i$gtl@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <32tsenINNb4a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 01:43:26 GMT
In article <32tsenINNb4a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) writes:
>
>If your simulations really seem to scale with Dhrystone, then they are
>almost certainly limited by integer performance, not FP. Dhrystone is a
>
>The HP-712/60 has roughly the same SPECint as a Pentium-66. I'm therefore
>not particularly surprised that the Dhrystone benchmarks are fairly
>similar (it's basically the same gcc-based compiler either way, so the same
>degree of mangling has probably taken place) and that the P5-90 is
>substantially faster.
What Patrick says is true... however, you might just be noticing a
faster overall processor rather than having your simulation be
integer bound (ie. a processor which is faster in float over previous
generations is likely to be faster in integer (read that carefully)).
Anyway, what Patric doesn't say about the HP machines (which I'll
say ;-) is that they're likely to multitask much better, as well
as having much faster floating point. For instance, my P90 grinds
to a halt for all other tasks while linking. It's horrible. Whatever
the "one true process" currently is, does run fast, but the rest
of them can slow down quite a bit if there's a pig on board.
If you can afford the 80 and need to do math-intensive simulations,
go for it. If you need to run Windows, or are happy being a one-process
jockey, and don't mind fighting with your computer every now and then,
go for a P/90. (yuck.)
- db
--
"Lost your look of life? Too much Apple Pie."
-- The Wedding Present
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Message-ID: <1994Aug20.015141.4231@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net> <1994Aug9.165742.25780@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 01:51:41 GMT
In article <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>>444 mode, and I think the DIamond can only be programmed in 555 mode
>>which gives a 15% boost to the #9.
>
>Doesn't this only matter if you are using the card in 16bit mode? I.E. if you
>plan on primarily using the cards at 24bit mode than this bit alignment issue
>dissapears and the cards work more or less the same.
More or less! From the tests though the #9 appears to be the better card.
It was also the one chosen by NeXT for the SJ demo at the Expo, for
whatever that's worth.
I've run mine in 32bit mode for a while, and gone back to 16bit. The
swapping (even with 32M of RAM) got to be too annoying.
>BTW, what difference does it make if a card does or does not use the BookTree
>RamDac?
Some people have said that the TI RAMDAC is worse. There's also an issue
over which can provide a more stable picture.
>>very high, higher than the #9 at times). So really, either the #9 or
>>the Elsa is the fastest video card under NEXTSTEP/PCI.
>
>Also, the new Diamond Viper Pro coming out will be superior to all the above
>mentioned cards in that it will suppor 1280X1024 in 24bits. The above cards
Gack! How much VRAM will it have? (Well, 8M?) Jeepers. Better have 64M
on your motherboard ;-).
>max out at 1156X864 (not exact). So I think the best card out will be the
>Diamond Viper pro (that is for 24bit work)--and the driver should be out, I
>think, with NS 3.3 (maybe a beta earlier?).
Very cool. Will such a card cost over a thousand dollars though? That's
a lot of VRAM.
- darcy
--
"Lost your look of life? Too much Apple Pie."
-- The Wedding Present
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Message-ID: <1994Aug20.014749.4027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <32u9a0$l4u@search01.news.aol.com> <32ulc9$e8o@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 01:47:49 GMT
In article <32ulc9$e8o@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu writes:
>
>Now for the bad news: the pricing. The lowest priced system is
>the "object.station 41 Deployment System", which includes 16
>MB RAM and a 500 MB HD. The price, without software and without
>any display, is $5,194. The 17" display is $1,280.
>
>Nice hardware, but completely insane pricing.
The "list" pricing. I got a price (quantity of 5 spread over a year)
of $4100 per machine, 16/500 config with CD-ROM drive. No monitor.
Again, I can get a similarly configured Pentium machine for the
same amount. Also, I can spend 6 weeks on the floor trying to
get them to work. I can also end up leaving the cases off because
they generate too much heat. I can also discover that the DX4 is
as fast under NEXTSTEP as a P/66 (integer). I can then, finally,
rest secure with my P/90 crashing/window server dying once or twice
a day.
My law of computing hardware: pay now, or pay later, but believe me,
you *will* pay.
- db
--
"Lost your look of life? Too much Apple Pie."
-- The Wedding Present
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Date: 19 Aug 1994 21:20:17 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <3337mh$pst@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <32udil$13l@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <32udil$13l@news.doit.wisc.edu> hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
(Jessica Hayden) writes:
> Yes we have a Pinnacle Micro Sierra 1.3GB MO drive attached to a NextStation
> TurboColor.
there are a couple more things I'd like to add. The Pinnacle Sierra is a very
fast drive with a 19ms access time and an ability to spin at 4500RPM with high
quality glass cartridges that Pinnacle sells for ~$200 a piece. We have been
using Verbatim 1.3GB 1024byte/sector cartridges with the drive (~$120 each from
ClubMac) with still very good performance. The drive feels about twice as slow
as our hard drives.
I believe the Sierra has a several MB cache onboard. The older Pinnacle
PMO-650 had a 4MB cache and the Sierra replaced that drive.
Here are some sample specs. Using the /etc/disk command....
disk> read
starting block? 1
# sectors per transfer? 128
number of transfers? 10
sector increment? 1
1310720 bytes in 614 ms = 2148721 bytes/s
(2.1 MB/sec reads)
disk> write
starting block? 1
# sectors per transfer? 128
number of transfers? 10
sector increment? 1
random data? yes
1310720 bytes in 622 ms = 2114064 bytes/s
(2.1 MB/sec write)
(FYI on our 486/66 NS/Intel adaptec 1542cf/Seagate ST3600N we only get
1.3MB/sec for the same /etc/disk read test).
We ordered the Mac version of the drive (which came with the Sierra with a SCSI
port, mac system SCSI cable, manual and mac driver/utility disk). We were
having some problems with some sort of SCSI noise which was fixed by placing
the drive as the first physical device on the external chain and having the
rest of the external SCSI devices after the Sierra. We originally had the
Sierra at the end of the SCSI chain. The drive is a SCSI-2 device and there
may have been some problems with improper SCSI-2 syncronization over the longer
cable length.
We paid $2845 educational for the drive back in April which is slightly more
than average but I believe it was worth it for the speed advantage.
One last thing, the drive comes in a really cool looking two tone gray case
with green accents. It looks more like something you'd find in a modern art
museum than from a disk drive manufacturer. I sometimes think that was the real
reason I picked it over the others :)
Hope this answers any further questions.
Jessica Hayden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Anybody had troubles with the #9 GXE Level 14 (4Mb) LocalBus?
Message-ID: <CutFLF.3p5@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <330v25$un@nntp.interaccess.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 04:10:26 GMT
Brian Leake (phyd@psycfrnd.interaccess.com) wrote:
: I tried like crazy to use NeXT's new Number 9 GXE driver to get my
: lovely 4Mb Level 14 card working. It's a local bus card on an ALR
: Evolution V Pentium machine. I've got 64Mb installed.
: On booting it has some kind of trouble loading some kind of code
: segment onto the board, claiming it can't find the file it needs.
: This all happens before the machine actually gets into graphics mode,
: and eventually causes a kernel panic.
Are you able to get this card to work with any of the other drivers?
Does it specify the file not found by name? What are you using for a
controller card?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cable between Mac and NeXT/black serial ports?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 19 Aug 1994 19:14:50 GMT
Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Aug19151450@acs3.bu.edu>
References: <3173@telenet.telenet.com>
To: jbrierre@telenet.com (Jacques Brierre)
In-reply-to: jbrierre@telenet.com's message of 8 Jul 94 20:25:14 GMT
In article <3173@telenet.telenet.com> jbrierre@telenet.com (Jacques Brierre) writes:
would like to try to connect a '040 cube with an 840 AV using a cable
(null modem cable/ crossover cable). Has anyone seen or heard of such a
beast? Please Email response if possible.
Thanks.
I have successfully logged a Compaq running Linux onto serial B of my '040 cube
and also onto a Mac II. To do what you want you just want a null cable with a
RS-423 male (cube serial port) on one end, and whatever you need on the other
to go into the Mac's modem port. The null cable means send/receive are
flopped, I think. Then, with the proper modification to /etc/ttys (see man
pages and the file itself), you can log in from your Mac to your NeXT using any
terminal program. Hit return, and you will get a login: prompt from your NeXT.
It's surprisingly simple. I was able to go up to 38400 baud with my Compaq.
The bauds have to match in /etc/ttys and the Mac terminal program. Kermit
worked for me.
Logging in from next to mac I have no idea about, unless your mac is running
unix.
Matt
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 28.8 modems and slip with NS/FIP
Date: 20 Aug 1994 01:51:35 -0700
Organization: Zach's House
Message-ID: <334g6n$il@crl.crl.com>
Is there anyone out there running NEXSTEP/FIP and using a 28.8 modem with
SLIP?
Is this even possible?? What about that mux driver thing. I can't get
better than 19200 our of my serial ports right now, and I'm still
dropping characters.
Zach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: SCSI cable for NeXT cube (external)
Message-ID: <CusIv6.4yF@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <IiIuUgO00iUz43ka02@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 16:23:29 GMT
In article <IiIuUgO00iUz43ka02@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 18-Aug-94 SCSI cable for
> NeXT cube (e.. by Rob Maher@unlinfo.unl.ed
> > I am in need of an external SCSI cable for a NeXT cube. A cable with
> > the male 50 pin NeXT-style connector on one end and a 50-pin centronics
> > on the other would be perfect.
>
> The "male 50 pin NeXT-style connector" is a SCSI-2 connector. You'll
> find them as the standard SCSI connection on all major Unix systems.
>
> The "50-pin centronics" is a SCSI-1 connector.
>
> > Who sells the NeXT-style cables? What is the NeXT 50-pin connector called?
>
> Every computer store or mail-order company who deals with SCSI hardware
> should sell the cable you want; it's called a "SCSI-1 to SCSI-2
> cable"....
Better phrased, it's a SCSI 2 to Centronics 50 pin.
If you intend to extend your SCSI chain with another device,
you'll then need a Centronics 50 pin to Centronics 50 pin,
in addition.
--
personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: DAYDREAM-ATARI
Message-ID: <Cutvn9.EG@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 09:57:08 GMT
QUESTION:
DAYDREAM contents the MAC-Roms in a little box for the DSP-Port and
runs, booting through a software, to a MAC. Including ATARI-Roms, could
it run, with software-adaption, as an ATARI?
MAnfred
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* Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 *
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From: hoff@sorge (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Date: 20 Aug 1994 11:14:29 GMT
Organization: German National Research Center for IT
Message-ID: <334oil$k9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
References: <32s40i$gtl@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <32tsenINNb4a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <1994Aug20.014326.3840@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
(...)
>Anyway, what Patric doesn't say about the HP machines (which I'll
>say ;-) is that they're likely to multitask much better, as well
>as having much faster floating point. For instance, my P90 grinds
>to a halt for all other tasks while linking. It's horrible. Whatever
>the "one true process" currently is, does run fast, but the rest
>of them can slow down quite a bit if there's a pig on board.
Careful: if you're still running the Talus driver for SCSI, this is the
reason why your machine is brought to its knees during hard disk activity.
I don't know why, but the current incarnation of the driver is a serious
CPU/kernel time hog; let's hope this will change with 3.3 (and the new
driver). Apart from the larger number of registers (less juggling) and
the better FP throughput, there's really no reason why a Gecko would be
substantially faster at multitasking than an Intel box.
Regards,
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) [no NeXTmail]
Smalltalker, NEXTSTEPper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen.
"I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
From: hoff@sorge (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: tar kills Talus NCR SCSI driver !?
Date: 20 Aug 1994 11:18:37 GMT
Organization: German National Research Center for IT
Message-ID: <334oqd$k9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
I think I have found a bug in Talus' NCR SCSI driver.
Whenever I use my streamer (Wangtek 150/250 MB SCSI tape) and
press ^C during a 'tar tv', the whole system locks up completely.
The SCSI LED is lit, the pointer wheel just keeps on spinning,
and even ALT-GR+NUM-Lock doesn't work any more.
Other operations like writing, reading, and listing tape contents
_without interruption_ (until EOT is reached) work OK. The bug is
reproducable with both NeXT's tar and my self-compiled GNU tar;
both /dev/rst0 and /dev/nrst0 have been set to a fixed block-size
with mtset. My motherboard is an ASUS 486/66 PCI/ISA board, with the NCR
chip on-board.
Has anybody else encountered this ?
Thanks for any input,
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) [no NeXTmail]
Smalltalker, NEXTSTEPper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen.
"I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: To turn off or not to turn off?
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 11:45:06 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <1994Aug20.114506.414@harka>
References: <32js6u$qhv@acmex.gatech.edu>
Originator: HARKA@nice
Dave Rinker (gt2780a@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
> What's the current theory on keeping monitors on or not?? I've got a color
> megapixel.. should I leave it on 24/7 (with a screen saver) or turn it off
> when not in use? In the past, I've been turning it on and off all the time,
> and I've had to fix the power supply.. Any observations/suggestions?
As I had to let repair my MegaPixel some weeks ago, I talked to
somebody who repairs monitors all day long and thus should know what's
best for them. He told me, that there are parts in a monitor which
live longer if they're not hot -> switch off the monitor whenever you
don't need it. On the other hand, there are parts which get killed by
the power on/off-cycles -> never switch your monitor off unless you
really have to. The best solution is of course to find a value between
always and never. His advice was to turn off the monitor if I don't
use it for about 3 hours.
This calculation does not pay attention to the power consumption, but
only to the live-time of a monitor.
I also asked him which screen savers are best. His list for an ideal
saver was:
- nothing static on the screen for a long time, otherwise the picture
gets burned in
- no black screen. There should always be something on the screen (my
technical knowledge and my english is not good enough to describe the
effect very well. It has something to do with the electrons coming
from the electron-source. They should have a place to go instead of
waiting all the time near the source...).
- all colors should be visible on the screen (see above).
Compared to this list, NeXT's screen saver in the 3.2 login panel is
quite ideal.
Hope this helps,
Felix
--
Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland.
internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Do Apple CD300 Pluses (without Caddies!!) work with NS?
Date: 19 Aug 1994 00:39:19 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Aug19013919@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Anybody connected one of these to either white or black hardware?
I currently own the CD300 model with the caddie but I believe that
300iPluses (or something or rather) have nice like NEC/TOSHIBA like
trays instead...
Looks like the caddie manufacturers have stopped paying Apple now :-)
--
"Mariella Mariella Mariella"
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: GW P5-90 and NCR PCI SCSI
Date: 20 Aug 1994 15:48:57 GMT
Organization: Kornreich Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3358l9$3kh@packer.eps.com>
I just wanted to post the telephone numebr for the Intel BBS
916-356-3600
In file area OEM Platforms / File area 36 you will find the right bios for
the GW 2000 P5-90 to recognize an NCR PCI SCSI device..
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
From: zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WANTED: faq type info on intel pci mb's
Date: 20 Aug 1994 14:27:04 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <335hto$3h8@search01.news.aol.com>
Where can i get a list of if these new Pentium pci type motherboards
will soldidly run NeXTSTEP?
I am interested in:
SUPER P54-VL & PCI
MICRON boxes
DELL Onminplex p54
----- I wouldd like to hear of someones first hand experience with these
machines. ------
I am looking for one of the new 3.3 volt chips. Multiple bus's would
be nice but not essential. 3-4 PCI slots would be best along with
EISA/VL-ISA slots in that order of preference. There is no great
requirement for any thing but onboard but I/O (Serial/Paraell/Mouse,
Key/bd). I will be adding network, high performance video & SCSI II disk.
Thanx very much for any recomendations,
Rich Neiswonger
From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MIDI driver for 486
Date: 20 Aug 1994 18:54:42 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <335jhi$kbe@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Where can I get a NSFIP driver for a MPU-401 compatible?
I want to use it with an AudiotrixPro.
What does the alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel currently
support? MIDI? Soundboard's? Which standard?
--
-------------------------------------------------------
Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Audiotrix and NS
Date: 20 Aug 1994 18:55:20 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <335jio$kbe@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
I want to buy an Audiotrix Pro. I want to use it in a DEC-PC with the
Adaptec 1740. Will it work? Which hard- & software settings?
My major use is to do MIDI in/output plus concurrent sound output.
Is the original NS MIDI driver working on Intel at all? Does it support
these cards, or other MIDI interfaces that connect to the serial port?
Or is there an extra MIDI driver somewhere on a server, or
do I have to get the Alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel?
Is it possible to play more than one sound in realtime -
realtime mixing - or just one soundfile at a time? (No use of the
possible 24 PCM voices under NS?)
Something known about the Audiotrix effects daughter board? I doubt,
that there is support from within the MSS driver, so there won't be any
use in purchasing it, as long it is solely used under NS. Right?
Currently I am trying to get a SoundGalaxy Pro16 to run. With the
jumper setting "EEPROM config" it does not boot (hanging on
Adaptec1740 init), with jumper set to "Software config" it does not
work and the parallel port cannot be used, though DMA, Port, and IRQ
do not conflict. Anybody an idea?
Thanks for answers,
- Lucas.
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Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gmat@maestro.maestro.com (Giorgio Matsuda)
Subject: Canon BJ-200 in NS3.2!??
Message-ID: <CuuMI6.9sL@maestro.maestro.com>
Organization: Maestro Technologies, Inc.
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 19:37:18 GMT
The Canon Bubblejet-200 printer used to work under Nextstep 3.1 when run in
IBM proprinter 24p emulation mode (albeit at 180dpi). In NS 3.2, this printer
driver is missing entirely and there seems no way to get this printer to
work!
Is there any other emulation under which this printer will function, or are
there any public domain drivers available? I need a simple low-cost printer
to output text at home, I can print stacks of perfect laser output on HP's
at school, for my own purposes the bublejet works nicely (360dpi inkjet
printer)
please help!
From: rolfe@berkshire.ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Source for HP 712 machines?
Date: 20 Aug 1994 19:53:34 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <335mvu$8bv@daffy.ldp.com>
Can someone point me to a source for the HP 712 boxes? My
company can probably qualify for a developer discount.
Thanks!
--
Rolfe Tessem Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com 96 Morton Street
(212) 463-0029 New York, NY 10014
From: cedman@schnorer.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Date: 20 Aug 1994 21:32:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Aug20143204@schnorer.ps.uci.edu>
References: <32s40i$gtl@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <32tsenINNb4a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
<1994Aug20.014326.3840@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
<334oil$k9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
To: hoff@sorge (Holger Hoffstaette)
In-reply-to: hoff@sorge's message of 20 Aug 1994 11:14:29 GMT
In article <334oil$k9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@sorge (Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
Careful: if you're still running the Talus driver for SCSI, this is the
reason why your machine is brought to its knees during hard disk activity.
I don't know why, but the current incarnation of the driver is a serious
CPU/kernel time hog; let's hope this will change with 3.3 (and the new
driver). Apart from the larger number of registers (less juggling) and
the better FP throughput, there's really no reason why a Gecko would be
substantially faster at multitasking than an Intel box.
The HPPA has a much more modern and well-designed instruction set than
x86 machines which includes a much larger number of general purpose
registers which in principle should give you better performance but as
the SpecInt numbers show the Geckos are still slower than the faster
Pentiums for a host of other reasons. But as far as task switching is
concerned a large register file is a disadvantage, not an advantage as
it requires more state to be saved on every switch. And floating
point performance of course has nothing at all to do with task
switching but even here 90 and 100 MHz Pentiums beat the 712/60 and
the original 712/80i.
If you want the fastest NeXTstep machine in the world and money is no
object buy a large snake, not a Gecko. Otherwise buy a high-end
Pentium.
Carl Edman
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 20 Aug 1994 23:29:30 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3363kq$12t@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <1994Aug20.014749.4027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Aug20.014749.4027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
(Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
> The "list" pricing. I got a price (quantity of 5 spread over a year)
> of $4100 per machine, 16/500 config with CD-ROM drive. No monitor.
That's the academic pricing, which isn't available to everyone.
> Again, I can get a similarly configured Pentium machine for the
> same amount.
You haven't been following the prices! You can have
a Dell 90 Mhz P90 system in similar config for about $3,500.
> Also, I can spend 6 weeks on the floor trying to
> get them to work. I can also end up leaving the cases off because
> they generate too much heat.
The 60 and 66 MHz Pentiums were higher voltage parts than the
90 MHz parts. I haven't heard of masses of P90 owners
suffering the problems you describe.
> I can also discover that the DX4 is
> as fast under NEXTSTEP as a P/66 (integer). I can then, finally,
> rest secure with my P/90 crashing/window server dying once or twice
> a day.
Must be a bum system, sorry to hear that.
> My law of computing hardware: pay now, or pay later, but believe me,
> you *will* pay.
If you are saying that a Canon system is the only system that
will work, you've really lost it, Darcy! It's a nice system,
but it's not the only viable game in town. I'd like one myself,
but not at the current pricing.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: hoff@sorge (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Date: 21 Aug 1994 00:00:01 GMT
Organization: German National Research Center for IT
Message-ID: <3365e1$na@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
References: <32s40i$gtl@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <32tsenINNb4a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <CEDMAN.94Aug20143204@schnorer.ps.uci.edu>
Carl Edman (cedman@schnorer.ps.uci.edu) wrote:
>In article <334oil$k9@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@sorge (Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
>(...)
> (...) Apart from the larger number of registers (less juggling) and
> the better FP throughput, there's really no reason why a Gecko would be
> substantially faster at multitasking than an Intel box.
>
>The HPPA has a much more modern and well-designed instruction set than
>x86 machines which includes a much larger number of general purpose
>registers which in principle should give you better performance but as
>the SpecInt numbers show the Geckos are still slower than the faster
>Pentiums for a host of other reasons. But as far as task switching is
>concerned a large register file is a disadvantage, not an advantage as
>it requires more state to be saved on every switch. And floating
I know what you mean, I do Smalltalk on a SPARC. :-)
What I meant to say was this: if you have many registers, you don't
have to swap often, even though you have to put more registers on the stack,
although only once.
The larger number of registers also helps during the switch itself, where
every operation and especially every memory reference counts.
As far as context switch time is concerned, there's also a whole range of
other factors, like cache policies, stack ops, and most of all the MMU.
I don't know about the HP MMU, but I remember reading a tech report long
ago which described it, and it looked pretty 'different' to me on first
sight. Then again, this might be an advantage - although the Intel MMU is
(contrary to popular belief) not exactly bad, either.
>point performance of course has nothing at all to do with task
>switching but even here 90 and 100 MHz Pentiums beat the 712/60 and
>the original 712/80i.
Yup, but it contributes to the general system behaviour quite a bit,
especially under NEXTSTEP. I had the opportunity to fiddle with a Gecko/80
not too long ago, and it was _wicked_ fast. Of course, for that price, it
better be.
Regards,
Holger
--
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Smalltalker, NEXTSTEPper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen.
"I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI Drivers *now*
Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:02:14 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <332l26$6lh@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <netnewsCupw1s.6v@netcom.com>
Keywords: PCI SCSI, Talus, drivers
In article <netnewsCupw1s.6v@netcom.com> Frank Price <wprice@netcom.com>
writes:
> OK, I just picked up a Gateway P5-90 with an ATI Mach 64. I got the
> obvious best choice for SCSI card, the Adaptec AHA2940 because, not
being
> much of a PC person, I trusted some dolt who told me the Adaptec 1524
> drivers were the same as the 2940. Anyway, I guess I'll be returning
> that since it doesn't work with NeXTStep of course. So, the question is
> what to get. An earlier thread had something about a card from NCR, but
> said the driver wouldn't be available for a month. Isn't there a single
> driver for a PCI SCSI card available now?
Actually, yes! But there is a snag, you see. I do not believe we have a
single customer using our NCR driver on a Gateway machine (please correct
me it I'm wrong, gentlemen - please!). We have a working driver for the
Mach64 right now, and are working on the 2940 driver (which NeXT may be
working on, as well - good thing we're not duplicating efforts, right?).
Apparently the PCI implementation on the Gateways in somehow
different than standard, or perhaps the BIOS used doesn't support
protected mode SCSI.
Sorry!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications
dan@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Message-ID: <CursBp.2Ix@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
References: <CuMurD.Jn2@moksha.uucp>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 06:50:13 GMT
In article <CuMurD.Jn2@moksha.uucp> mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) writes:
> In article <1994Aug13.204632.810@uriela.in-berlin.de>
> perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) writes:
> > WACON is _NOT_ working on a black, color, turbo with ADB. Using the
> > InstallTAblet will kill the machine. Are there any hints how I can do this?
What do you mean? I am using a WACOM SD-420 (12" x 12", serial interface) on an ADB
NeXTstation TurboColor with a pressure sensitive pen. I installed it with
InstallTablet.app and it didn't kill my machine.
Are you hooking it up to Serial port B? If not, it won't work!
> Agreed. If anybody has a fix for this, please let me know.
What have you agreed to?
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
PGP key available on request.
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Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI cable for NeXT cube (external)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 15:25:59 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <MiJER7O00iV7I4OnAK@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CusIv6.4yF@txnews.amd.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Aug-94 Re: SCSI cable
for NeXT cub.. by charles.herrick@amd.com
> > Every computer store or mail-order company who deals with SCSI hardware
> > should sell the cable you want; it's called a "SCSI-1 to SCSI-2
> > cable"....
>
> Better phrased, it's a SCSI 2 to Centronics 50 pin.
Actually, no. You can get "Centronics 50 pin" to "Centronics 50 pin"
cables which will work with (for example) a Centronics printer, but
which will not work reliably with a SCSI setup. SCSI-1 cables are a
subset of Centronics 50 pin cables which have precisely 100 ohm (+/- 5%
or so) characteristic impedance, as mandated per the SCSI standard.
For that matter, some SCSI cables don't meet that standard either!
Remember the problems people had a few years back trying to use
deficient Mac SCSI cables (which would cause intermittant problems on
NeXT black hardware) because they ran about 90 ohms?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: VLB Pentium motherboards & Saturn & Mercury
Message-ID: <Aug.19.14.54.37.1994.28276@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 19 Aug 94 18:54:37 GMT
References: <Aug.17.22.56.03.1994.10565@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> Finally, does anyone know anything about the 'Saturn' chipset? Is it
>better/works than the Neptune. Anyone using a Pentium motherboard with a
>Saturn chipset and NeXTSTEP? I've seen it advertised and was wondering
>about it.
There seems to be one other chipset of interest, the Mercury chipset. If
anyone knows if this works well or otherwise, the info will be much
appreciated.
Thanks,
>Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Message-ID: <Aug.19.15.00.19.1994.29041@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 19 Aug 94 19:00:19 GMT
References: <31qtqj$rvp@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> <326ejc$9hl@great-miami.iac.net> <1994Aug9.165742.25780@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <Aug.17.23.57.35.1994.23184@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3305lo$6jc@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) writes:
>444 mode seems quite important. I have run a Diamond Viper card in 555 mode,
>and though it's a slower card in blitting bits than the #9, it seems
>disproportionately slower than the #9 in 444 mode. In other words, bit blitting
>rates equal, the 444 mode makes #9 feel a *heck* of a lot faster than the Viper.
>If the Viper Pro supports 444 mode, and bests the #9 in D-V and V-V perf., then
>it would be a killer card.
Again, 444 mode is only important if your using 16bit color. If you go up to
24 bit color you are using 888 mode, and the 444 is irrelevant. So if you
plan on getting 2 meg card the 444mode issue is probably really important.
If, however, you are getting a 4meg card for 24bit color use, the 444 mode
issue, really isn't an issue.
I guess its only an issue on 4meg card if you plan to use the
16bit 1600X1200 color mode.
Anyway, thats the way I understand it--which certainly can be wrong--so please
correct me if I am wrong.
Later, John
From: jjfox@shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: GW P5-90 and NCR PCI SCSI
Date: 21 Aug 1994 02:50:34 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <336fdq$tj@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <3358l9$3kh@packer.eps.com>
I've explained the problem to Gateway tech support and asked them to post
the rev. 8 BIOS on the GW BBS. This update solves problems not only with the
NCR SCSI card, but also with the Adaptec 2940 and others.
From: adguys@aol.com (Adguys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cannnnnon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Date: 20 Aug 1994 23:03:05 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <336g59$b30@search01.news.aol.com>
References: <9408181710.AA01289@nesteggs.com>
In article <9408181710.AA01289@nesteggs.com>, crawford@nesteggs.com
(Michael E. Crawford) writes:
"So now Company II, nee PowerHouse, is probably very close to a real
dual PowerPC machine that is some progeny of NRW.
>> Actually, Powerhouse will not sell computer products at all to the end
user. Their charter is to provide technology on an OEM basis only.
From: zone@panix.com (Alex Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 21 Aug 1994 02:08:47 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <336r1f$86g@panix3.panix.com>
References: <1994Aug20.014749.4027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <3363kq$12t@news.ycc.yale.edu>
I was in Japan recently, and Cannon has been selling their NeXTstation 486/66
for a while now. In Japan, the price for the NeXTstation is considered
reasonable, as import taxes, protectionist policies, and silly buracracy keep
the price of software, hardware, both import and domestic at an artificially
high level.
The NeXTstaion had more of a "Workstation" feel to it during setup and use
and felt fast and smooth during use (both vague terms, but I think they fit,
YMMV.)
I liked using them alot, but personally, if I was to buy a new NeXT computer
right now for $5000 dollars, I would get a base HP Gekko 80, and add third
party memory, etc. I think that if Cannon does not look at what is available
for NeXT users right now, and in the near future, and price accordingly, they
will not do very well in the US computer market.
Alex
zone@panix.com
From: payne440@utw.com (Carl Payne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.1 m68k PLEASE...NEED HELP!
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 00:37:25
Organization: System Technology, Inc.
Message-ID: <payne440.67.00009FB0@utw.com>
I recently added a 1GB hard drive to my 'Cube and tried to make it my primary,
bootable drive. Not only did it not work, and give me lots of errors, but it
suddenly didn't recognize my external CD-ROM, wouldn't let me boot from the
floppy, and refuses to let me figure out how to make this work.
If anyone has any time they can spare on a lost soul, could you please
respond to me so we can work it out via E-mail?? I REALLY need to AT LEAST
get this thing back the way it was...any help wopuld be appreciated.
Please reply via emial or CI$ 76570,1361 or even call me 801-373-4025
I'd not only appreciate it, I'd be grateful eternally.
Carl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CuvFrM.825@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <32udil$13l@news.doit.wisc.edu> <3337mh$pst@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 06:09:22 GMT
Jessica Hayden (hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu) wrote:
: In article <32udil$13l@news.doit.wisc.edu> hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
: (Jessica Hayden) writes:
: > Yes we have a Pinnacle Micro Sierra 1.3GB MO drive attached to a NextStation
: > TurboColor.
: We ordered the Mac version of the drive (which came with the Sierra with a SCSI
: port, mac system SCSI cable, manual and mac driver/utility disk).
: The drive is a SCSI-2 device
Was the SCSI-2 driver enough to talk to this drive? Or did you have
to include the mac driver as well? Or perhaps as a replacement? I've
been hearing good things about MO drives lately, but have heard
literally nothing about NS compatibility. An additional feature that
I have yet to hear is that such a drive can also connect via parallel
port(understandably with slower throughput) so that I could also use
it on non-SCSI systems.
: One last thing, the drive comes in a really cool looking two tone gray case
: with green accents. It looks more like something you'd find in a modern art
: museum than from a disk drive manufacturer. I sometimes think that was the real
: reason I picked it over the others :)
I agree, Jessica, that it is one beautiful unit. I wish I could afford one.
But alas, I'll have to settle for a 230M.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 28.8 kbps modems
Date: 19 Aug 1994 23:10:48 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <333e5o$10e7@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Hi. I'm looking at buying a couple of 28.8 kbps modems to run SLIP
on. Does anyone out there have any recommendations? I'll be putting
them on non turbo colour slabs running 3.0.
Thanks a bunch
Eugene
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Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "CryptoBundle" available ?
Message-ID: <1994Aug19.051357.25362@cc.usu.edu>
From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham)
Date: 19 Aug 94 05:13:57 MDT
References: <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
In article <Cuq6ts.6rD@news2.new-york.net>,
A Humble Treestump <root@net23.com> wrote:
>I am experiencing a problem with the afformentioned cryptobundle
>replacement for mail.app, and pgp...
>
>I want to use this to send email messages to people without nextmail...
>But when I send an encrypted message, even in normal text mode, the result
>is a message with a uuencoded tar attachment...
>
>Is their anyway to make this cryptobundle send out plain ascii text
>encrypted messages?
>
>Thanks. Please mail me with replies.
>
>Nick
>
>
>--
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>razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area
>Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com"
>Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info
>To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
For this you need NXPGP.app. Compose the message and encrypt in place.
You also need it to decrypt messages sent by mere mortal mailers. :)
Now, how does one incorporate encryption into Workspace Manager?
(Vote for pgp support in Opener.app now!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Subject: Harddisk HP C2235 as bootdisk, how?
Message-ID: <1994Aug21.122534.1231@balou.rhein.de>
Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer)
Organization: private NeXT
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 94 12:25:34 GMT
Hi all,
I have a 400 MB HP C2235 connected to my slab and it works great as additional
disk. Now I builded this disk for using it as internal bootdisk with
BuildDisk. Because I don't have any service manual I can't set the jumper
correctly and everytime the NeXT says:
SCSI Bus hung
I tried various jumper settings but always the same error occurs. I also heard
a story about screws which are too long, but I tried also using the disk
without placing it in the slab.
Does anybody know how to use this nice disk as bootdisk?
Thanks in advance, tommi
------
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tommi@balou.rhein.de
BOING-Admin@balou.rhein.de
voice/fax/data: +49 2225 701332
NeXT-Mail appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF)
Subject: NeXT optical disk troubles
Message-ID: <1994Aug18.165545.3164@afit.af.mil>
Keywords: optical NeXT motorola
Sender: news@afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 1994 16:55:45 GMT
This is a question for anyone with experience in NeXT optical drives.
I have an optical disk cartridge that no longer seems to work with my NeXT
cube. Other cartridges work just fine.
When loading, the disk spins up, then immediately spins down and ejects.
The following error message is displayed on the console:
od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 8 phys block
264 (4165:0:8)
Is this disk completely and forever useless? Is there anyway to fix it?
or recover the info on it?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Eric
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From: hal@alfred.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Hal Varian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Date: 21 Aug 1994 14:37:04 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <337oqg$20d@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <CuJMyB.Lu@blackmaus.com> <32udil$13l@news.doit.wisc.edu>
>In article <CuJMyB.Lu@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi) writes:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a couple of questions regarding MO drives with NEXTSTEP. I checked
>> the FAQs but nothing was mentioned. Hopefully these questions (and any
>> answers) will make it to the NeXT Software/Hardware FAQs.
>>
>> 1. Is anyone out there using either the new 230 MB 3.5" or 1.3 Gb 5.25" MO
>> (magneto-optical) drives?
>>
>> 2. If so, which brand(s)?
>>
I just saw an ad for a CSC optical disk drives. They have a 650 MB
unit for $695 that they indicate works with a NeXT. Is anybody
out there in netland using this drive? What have your experiences
been? This looks pretty tempting. [CSC is in Sunnyvale at
408-734-DISK].
--
---
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voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
From: fox@pt0204.pto.ford.com (Ken Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: BT-445S BIOS version problems
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 21 Aug 1994 16:02:30 GMT
Organization: Powertrain Systems, Ford Motor Company
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <337tqmINNi2g@ope001.iao.ford.com>
I have a BT-445S with BIOS 4.72 and firmware 3.37. According to both
the NeXTanswers guide and my latest experience ;-) this won't work with
NEXTSTEP. Ugh.
I actually was able to get NEXTSTEP installed, but with a bunch of timeout
errors. It also didn't find disk 0 and installed on disk 1. Me being the
optimistic person I am switched disk 0 and disk 1 and tried booting. I
got a very neat looking NEXTSTEP loading screen complete with a spinning
disk --- but then a kernel panic.
NeXTanswers tells me that BusLogic technical support will assist me in this.
Unfortunately, I can't find a tech support number in any of my controller
documentation. Can someone tell me?
Also, what's the scoop on the incompatibility? I have BSDI's BSD/386
installed on my machine (co-resident with DOS) and it works like a champ.
I'm worried that by downgrading the BIOS/firmware for NEXTSTEP, I might
introduce problems for BSD/386 or DOS.
Thanks in advance,
- Ken
--
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| represent those of, nor are endorsed
Ford Motor Company, Powertrain | by, Ford Motor Company.
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| or what?" -- Calvin
From: shaman@chinook.halcyon.com (Russell Wilcoxon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Music CD play on NeXT-FI?
Date: 21 Aug 1994 17:00:11 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <33816r$j9c@news.halcyon.com>
Summary: Has anyone got music CD's to play in 3.2?
Keywords: cd music
Although I've got a Toshiba 3401 SCSI with a Mediavision spectrum 16
sound card, (both are included in the hardware faq) I have not been able
to get the music player app to play any CD's. Has anyone managed to get
this to work? (I'm using the Adaptec 1542c controller)
-Russ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Message-ID: <1994Aug21.011857.25318@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <3305lo$6jc@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <330biu$c0g@digdug.pencom.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 01:18:57 GMT
In article <330biu$c0g@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) writes:
>Kristopher Jon Magnusson writes
>>
>> 444 mode seems quite important.
>Where did you guys get the thing about the #9 doing 444?
1) NeXT told me.
2) When you look at the modes you can pick for the #9 GXE 64 in the
configuration files, all the 16 bit modes are listed as "444"
>As far as I know it runs in 555 mode too because of the BrookTree DAC on
>it which I assume that's what is on it. The **PCI** Diamond Viper flies
>on NEXTSTEP. The S3 928 chip has a read-ahead and fast-write cache which
The deal was that for some reason the #9 can be configured to 444
and 555, which makes it "special" in regards to the other cards.
>guys are confused about 444 unless there's a mode in the BrookTree that I
>was not aware of or the adapter. But anyways, I don't think 444 would
>make a difference in performance because it still takes two words to store
>a pixel.
Well, if we're confused, then there's a whole lotta software engineers
at NeXT that are confused too ;-).
NeXT told me (paraprased) "the reason that the Canon video is faster
is because it uses 444 video mode. Most PC cards that use 555 mode
incur extra overhead under NEXTSTEP since the WindowServer uses a 444
representation internally. There's a slowdown when you translate
between representations... the #9 gets a 15% performance increase
because it, like the Canon video subsystem, can operate in 444 mode."
>Also, bit blitting is not used under NEXTSTEP. Video cards are nothing
>more than a frame buffer with the accelerator sitting there. I only used
>the accelerator to erase the screen when the driver first comes up and
>that's it. It never gets used again.
I think Kris was talking about moving bits from RAM to the video card.
- db
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"Lost your look of life? Too much Apple Pie."
-- The Wedding Present
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Message-ID: <1994Aug21.012547.25547@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <3305lo$6jc@hamblin.math.byu.edu> <330j8o$jmd@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 01:25:47 GMT
In article <330j8o$jmd@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) writes:
>
>What *are* the D-V and V-V numbers? Better is higher or lower?
>
DRAM -> VRAM and VRAM -> VRAM. If you're doing data/time I'd think that
you'd want higher numbers for both.
- db
--
"Lost your look of life? Too much Apple Pie."
-- The Wedding Present
From: swift@bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What are practical faxmodem/software combos (3.0 black)?
Date: 21 Aug 1994 19:03:24 GMT
Organization: The University Professors, Boston University, Boston MA USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Aug21150324@acs3.bu.edu>
References: <SWIFT.94Aug19025546@acs3.bu.edu>
To: swift@bu.edu
In-reply-to: swift@bu.edu's message of 19 Aug 1994 06:55:46 GMT
The unanimous response has been to get a 3d party product called NSFax:
"Call Black&White Software (802)496-8500 for info on NXFax and
NXFax/Zyxel bundles. Their email is nxfax@bandw.com. The
software is $135. You can probably find the modem for a
little less than their bundle minus $135, but I got mine from
them just to support a fledgling software company."
(wrote Mark Adler).
This package is said to integrate very well with the NeXTstep environment, be
usable from the command line via some available pd programs; and support a good
number of 14.4 class II fax/modems.
Thanks to all who responded.
Matt Swift
From: webstergm@aol.com (WebsterGM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 + NCR SCSI + Talus Driver - ANSWER
Date: 21 Aug 1994 16:34:05 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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References: <1994Aug18.222304.22772@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
In article <1994Aug18.222304.22772@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com (Phil Zumsteg) writes:
How much did you pay for NCR PCI SCSI card and where did you get it?
Thanks for the help.
WebsterGM@aol.com
From: webstergm@aol.com (WebsterGM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/I with Intel Premier Pentium MB
Date: 21 Aug 1994 16:36:05 -0400
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I was wondering if NS is compatible with this metherboard. I was also
wondering what you all suggest as far as hard disk controller. What about
the NCR SCSI card? Would you happen to know if it is comopatible with
Future Domain 1680 formatted drives? I have a 1 Gig drive now filled with
stuff and no convenient means to back some of the stuff up. I had heard
that both Future Domain and NCR use the CAM format for their SCSI as
opposed to ASPI. What does that mean in terms of NS and my situation?
Matt Webster
WebsterGM@aol.com
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI cable too long?
Date: 21 Aug 1994 16:31:45 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9408212127.AA01524@cantina.lanl.gov>
I have a chain of a CD-ROM, DAT drive, and (momentarily) a
scanner attached to my Epson NX running 3.2. It seems that
MetroScan cannot find the scanner unless I take one of the
prior devices out of the chain.
I did try switching around cables, but without improvement.
My first cable (from the DPT 2021 board, with the new SCSI-2
type of connector) is kinda long. Could that be the problem?
Dick Silbar
From: joeboy@cac.washington.edu (Aaron Toney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What is the benchmark for white/black hardware.
Date: 22 Aug 1994 03:20:21 GMT
Organization: UW Computing
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3395hl$t93@news.u.washington.edu>
Hello,
I am about to buy an old next and was wondering what the current
benchmark was on white vrs black hardware. Does any one know what in dry
stones (and wet) a 030 cube does vrs say a 040 cube, and converly does
any one know what the current average is for white hardware?
Is there some system that is recommended for running NeXT step 486?
specific sound cards.. ect. I am just trying to get a feel for price vrs
speed. So pleas could any one with white hardware mail me of your setup
and experiences.
Thanks in advance,
Aaron
From: dan@au.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 68040 Cube Internal SCSI Termination?
Date: 22 Aug 1994 06:36:17 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <339h11$q34@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <1994Aug18.141011.19799@radical2.radical.com>
Ralph Jung writes
> Jim Cathey writes
> > SCSI is like Ethernet or any other high-speed bus. It wants (badly)
to
> > be terminated at each end of the bus, with no stubs or tees in the
line.
> > On a NeXT, the internal drive is at one end of the bus, and is
> > terminated. The NeXT itself is in the middle, and any external chain
is
> > on the other end, the final device of which must be terminated. The
> > internal drive is required to supply the terminator power, and no
other
> > device should. None of this is particularly NeXT-specific (though I
> > con't see why the NeXT wasn't the node supplying TERMPWR).
> >
>
> I obtained the documentation for the original, deceased Maxtor XT-838S
> drive that I removed from the NeXT. There were 2 jumpers (JP34 & JP41)
> identically labeled just "Termination Power." I assume one is "supply
to
> bus" and one is "get from bus." Of couse, one jumper (JP41) is set and
I
> don't know what it was doing. I would tend to agree with you that it
was
> probably "supplying to bus."
I recently retried information from Maxtor about the jumpers for the
XT-8380S ... Here's what I got:
WELCOME!
MAXTOR Technical Support BBS (#83670658)
Running the Major BBS by GALACTICOMM
Online @1200 Baud at 18:59:42 on 03-AUG-94
Now running six ZyXEL U-1496E 14,400
Baud Modems on 303-678-2222
File SCSI\XT-8380S.TXT
Size: 1628 bytes Download time: under 1 minute
Date: 05/04/92 From: Sysop
Time: 15:56:40 Downloaded: 87 times
Estimated cost of download: 0 credits
==========================================================================
====
MODEL XT-8380S
==========================================================================
====
Interface: SCSI RLL 1,7 Encoding
Capacity, Unformatted Capacity, Formatted SCSI
Per Drive (Mbytes) : 410.09 Per Drive (Mbytes) : 360.31
Per Surface (Mbytes) : 51.26 Per Surface (Mbytes) : 45.04
Per Track (Bytes) : 31,410 Per Track (Bytes) : 27,648
Per Sector (Bytes) : 512
Parameters Performance Specifications
Cylinders : 1632 Transfer rate, Mbits/sec : 15
Data Heads : 8 Access Time (Average) : 16msec
Sector\Track : 54 Access Time (Track-To-Track):
3.0msec
Pre-Comp NONE Access Time (Maximum) :
35.0msec
MTBF: 40,000 Hours (POH) Dimensions(Inches): 3.25" x 5.75" x
8.20""
Power Requirements: +12VDC +\- 5%. 1.5A Typical, 4.5A Maximum
+ 5VDC +\- 5%. 1.7A Typical, 1.9A Maximum
NOTE: This drive has been factory Low Level Formatted. This is an
intelligent
device so No Drive type is required in your computer setup.
File SCSI\XT8000JM.TXT XT-8000S Jumpers
Size: 1509 bytes Download time: under 1 minute
Date: 01/31/91 From: Sysop
Time: 10:45:10 Downloaded: 169 times
Estimated cost of download: 0 credits
Keywords: jumpers 8000 scsi
Jumpers for the XT-8000S Series SCSI drives
XT-8000S JUMPER SETTINGS
------------------------
SCSI ID SELECT
--------------
JP-37 JP-36 JP-35
----- ----- -----
0 OUT OUT OUT
1 OUT OUT IN
2 OUT IN OUT
3 OUT IN IN
4 IN OUT OUT
5 IN OUT IN
6 IN IN OUT
7 IN IN IN
DRIVR POWER UP OPTIONS
----------------------
JP-14 JP-38
(SPIN WITH POWER) (SPIN DELAY) MODE
--------------------------------------------
OUT OUT START BY ID SEQUENCE
OUT IN WAIT FOR START COMMAND
IN IN OR OUT START WHEN POWER IS APPLIED
TERMINATOR POWER
----------------
JP-41 JP-34
----- -----
IN OUT TERMINATION SUPPLIED BY THE DRIVE
IN IN BY BOTH THE DRIVE AND THE SCSI BUS
OUT IN TERMINATION IS SUPPLIED ELSEWHERE ON THE BUS
WRITE PROTECT OPTION
--------------------
JP-18
-----
OUT DEFAULT
IN DATA CONNOT BE WRITTEN TO THE DRIVE
PARITY OPTION
-------------
JP-40
-----
IN ENABLED
OUT DISABLED
OTHER JUMPERS
-------------
OTHER JUMPERS NOT SHOWN IN THIS PAGE ARE "FACTORY SETTINGS"
AND SHOULD REMAIN DEFAULT.
Hope this helps.
--
L. W. "Dan" Danz (WA5SKM) NeXT Mail: ddan@au.stratus.com
Senior Technical Consultant VOS Mail: Dan_Danz@vos.stratus.com
Asia Pacific Support Center Telephone: +61 (2) 954-0655
Stratus Computer Pty Ltd Fax: +61 (2) 954-0741
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Message-ID: <Cuw4o7.1n2@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <CursBp.2Ix@blackmaus.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 15:07:19 GMT
In article <CursBp.2Ix@blackmaus.com> dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
writes:
> In article <CuMurD.Jn2@moksha.uucp> mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
writes:
> > In article <1994Aug13.204632.810@uriela.in-berlin.de>
> > perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) writes:
>
> > > WACON is _NOT_ working on a black, color, turbo with ADB. Using the
> > > InstallTAblet will kill the machine. Are there any hints how I can do
this?
>
> What do you mean? I am using a WACOM SD-420 (12" x 12", serial interface) on
an ADB
> NeXTstation TurboColor with a pressure sensitive pen. I installed it with
> InstallTablet.app and it didn't kill my machine.
>
> Are you hooking it up to Serial port B? If not, it won't work!
>
>
> > Agreed. If anybody has a fix for this, please let me know.
>
> What have you agreed to?
>
I've agreed that I've seen exactly the problem described by the original
poster. WACOM on serial b of a color turbo adb, using InstallTablet, system
runs for a while and then dies. Interesting that you haven't seen this
problem. Consider yourself lucky.
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 28.8 modems and slip with NS/FIP
Date: 22 Aug 1994 11:58:42 GMT
Organization: University of York, Computing Service, UK
Message-ID: <33a3ti$go@castle.york.ac.uk>
References: <334g6n$il@crl.crl.com>
In article <334g6n$il@crl.crl.com>, gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) says:
> Is this even possible?? What about that mux driver thing. I can't get
> better than 19200 our of my serial ports right now, and I'm still
> dropping characters.
You need Mux to get better than that - and you need to turn off double
buffering to make it work with PPP so I assume you do with slip. I
know people with internal modems who can run the DTE interface at 38400
no problems. I can't run it above 19200 without getting problems, but
this might be a badly wired serial connector.
-bat.
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: disktab for IBM 0664CSH 4Gb drive
Date: 22 Aug 1994 14:05:33 GMT
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Message-ID: <33abbd$iag@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I need a disktab entry for an IBM 0664CSH drive or a phone number for the part
of the IBM collective that deals with hard drives. Thanks.
--
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From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micron P90 System Comments needed
Date: 22 Aug 1994 14:47:29 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <33adq1$hjr@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <1994Aug21.011857.25318@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK writes
> Well, if we're confused, then there's a whole lotta software engineers
> at NeXT that are confused too ;-).
#import <std_disclaimer.h>
Never mind, I was not aware that the DAC on the #9 had 444.
> the WindowServer uses a 444 representation internally. There's
> a slowdown when you translate between representations... the #9
> gets a 15% performance increase because it, like the Canon video
> subsystem, can operate in 444 mode.
Oh, I had misunderstood this one. The performance of the window server is
better with hardware operating in 444 mode. But I guess the hardware
performance is the same.
Regards,
- Ricardo Parada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: SCSI cable for NeXT cube (external)
Message-ID: <Cuxz7M.FyB@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <MiJER7O00iV7I4OnAK@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:04:32 GMT
In article <MiJER7O00iV7I4OnAK@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Aug-94 Re: SCSI cable
> for NeXT cub.. by charles.herrick@amd.com
> > > Every computer store or mail-order company who deals with SCSI hardware
> > > should sell the cable you want; it's called a "SCSI-1 to SCSI-2
> > > cable"....
> >
> > Better phrased, it's a SCSI 2 to Centronics 50 pin.
>
> Actually, no. You can get "Centronics 50 pin" to "Centronics 50 pin"
Actually, yes.
You want a SCSI cable (note: no I vs II moniker) with a SCSI II plug
on one end and a Centronics 50 pin on the other.
The SCSI II plug goes into the 68040 cube M'board plug, and the
Centronics 50 pin goes into the first device on your SCSI chain.
focus, focus, focus.
--
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From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: SCSI cable too long?
Message-ID: <Cuxz8y.Fzv@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <9408212127.AA01524@cantina.lanl.gov>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:05:21 GMT
In article <9408212127.AA01524@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick
Silbar) writes:
> I have a chain of a CD-ROM, DAT drive, and (momentarily) a
> scanner attached to my Epson NX running 3.2. It seems that
> MetroScan cannot find the scanner unless I take one of the
> prior devices out of the chain.
>
> I did try switching around cables, but without improvement.
>
> My first cable (from the DPT 2021 board, with the new SCSI-2
> type of connector) is kinda long. Could that be the problem?
Is there a terminator in the chain?
--
personal opinions
From: hah@toppoint.de (Heiko Hahn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC Ultralite and problems with FDD
Date: 22 Aug 1994 18:40:44 +0200
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <33akec$qij@worf.toppoint.de>
Hello everybody,
I installed NSfIP on my NEC Ultralite Versa Notebook (20 MB RAM, 500 MB IDE
HDD, Dockingstation with Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller and Hitachi CDR 3750
CD-ROM drive).
The installation from the bootdisk and the cd-rom was succesfull. But
everytime when I try to install third party software from floppy disk I get
errors like "Workspace Manager Error" or simply read errors followed with an
alert box "Now you can savely remove your floppy disk.".
The disks and the drive are *OK*. The installation of software from cd-rom
works also very fine.
Any idea?
Thanks in advance
Heiko
P.S. Please reply to hah@toppoint.de
--
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From: rob@lighthouse.com (Rob Kedoin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Date: 22 Aug 1994 15:30:09 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <33aga1$l7j@fungusaur.wizards.com>
References: <Cuw4o7.1n2@moksha.uucp>
Keywords: NS/FIP, tablets
BTW, does anyone know if there is any support for tablets in NS/FIP ? I looked
briefly, but didn't see the InstallTablet.app in /NextAdmin.
Thanks in advance.
From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Audiotrix and NS
Date: 22 Aug 1994 17:56:12 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <33aors$64p@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
I want to buy an Audiotrix Pro. I want to use it in a DEC-PC with the
Adaptec 1740. Will it work? Which hard- & software settings?
My major use is to do MIDI in/output plus concurrent sound output.
Is the original NS MIDI driver working on Intel at all? Does it support
these cards, or other MIDI interfaces that connect to the serial port?
Or is there an extra MIDI driver somewhere on a server, or
do I have to get the Alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel?
Is it possible to play more than one sound in realtime -
realtime mixing - or just one soundfile at a time? (No use of the
possible 24 PCM voices under NS?)
Something known about the Audiotrix effects daughter board? I doubt,
that there is support from within the MSS driver, so there won't be any
use in purchasing it, as long it is solely used under NS. Right?
Currently I am trying to get a SoundGalaxy Pro16 to run. With the
jumper setting "EEPROM config" it does not boot (hanging on
Adaptec1740 init), with jumper set to "Software config" it does not
work and the parallel port cannot be used, though DMA, Port, and IRQ
do not conflict. Anybody an idea?
Thanks for answers,
- Lucas.
--
-------------------------------------------------------
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From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MPU-401 drivers
Date: 22 Aug 1994 17:56:44 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <33aoss$64p@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Where can I get a NSFIP driver for a MPU-401 compatible?
I want to use it with an AudiotrixPro.
What does the alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel currently
support? MIDI? Soundboard's? Which standard?
--
-------------------------------------------------------
Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Large hard drives for black hardware
Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:12:03 GMT
Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding.
Message-ID: <33ata3$l6u@garuda.csulb.edu>
References: <3287kh$qcn@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
And James Powell<jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu> spake unto the masses:
>Isn't there a new 9Gb Seagate drive?
>Does it work? Thanks for any information you can pass along.
We just purchased a 9gb seagate, but havent formatted it yet. Can you
forward me any responses you've had about the 9g drives?
--
___
/\__\ Ryan L. Watkins email: vamp@csulb.edu
\/__/ Academic Computing Services url : http://www.csulb.edu/~vamp/
NeXTstep California State University at Long Beach --- Network Support
From: ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian Bainbridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: High Speed Serial Ports
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 94 18:10:17 EDT
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <uRsBRc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Originator: ian@mindvox
I'm interested in any information that anyone can provide regarding NextStep
compatible serial cards for either ISA or EISA buses. In particular I have
looked at the Hayes ESP which seems like the kind of solution I'm looking for
but it doesn't seem to work under Nextstep (big surprise). Are there any
cards similar to this one, any cards with 16550 UARTS, or for that matter ANY
CARDS AT ALL which provide a high speed serial port solution for 486 machines
running NS?
I have tried Mux, which helps a little but it still doesn't work right and I'm
getting somewhat disgusted being stuck back in the same situation we were in
about a year ago with the 3.1 serial drivers, and even if the software SHOULD
work in theory, and CAN work (since it did with the old 3.1 patch), I am more
than willing to just pay $60-$100 per machine, to get enhanced serial ports,
and avoid another reprise of this headache which I'm too used to experiencing
when running Nextstep.
Thanks
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Dell Optiplex configuration; Will it work?
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 18:23:10 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Aug22.182310.29895@cyantic.com>
We are probably going to purchase this configuration if there are no
show-stopping replies to this posting. This system is basically on the
"listed" part of the Intel HW Compatibility guide, but I am not trusting
anything at this stage of the game. Any and all comments are welcome.
Dell OptiPlex 486 MXV 66Mhz
16 Mb RAM
128K CPU Cache
Integrated 3.5" 1.44Mb Floppy Drive.
Microsoft Mouse
Adaptec 1542CF SCSI adapter.
Seagate ST31200N 1.05Gb Fast SCSI Disk
Diamond Stealth 64 VLB 2MB Video
ViewSonic V17G Monitor
Please respond via email.
Thanks in advance.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166
1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:19:09 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <33atndINNqda@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <33aga1$l7j@fungusaur.wizards.com>
In article <33aga1$l7j@fungusaur.wizards.com> rob@lighthouse.com (Rob
Kedoin) writes:
>BTW, does anyone know if there is any support for tablets in NS/FIP ? I
looked
>briefly, but didn't see the InstallTablet.app in /NextAdmin.
>
>Thanks in advance.
Since everyone is asking, I need to know if there is support
for tablets for a Motorola Color Slab 25MHz (Yes, I still use one).
Make, Price, where? Thanks.
--
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2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48109-2069
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Supra FAXModem
Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:59:32 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33b034$akh@news.iastate.edu>
References: <CusI5M.LyB@news.cis.umn.edu>
Charles R. Fletcher writes
> Can anyone tell me if a Supra FAXModem 144LC will work
> with NS 3.0 on a NeXTstation? If so, will the Mac
> cable that comes with it suffice or will I need a new
> cable? Faxing capability would be a nice extra, but I'm
> primarily interested in data. Thanks in advance--
>
I'm not sure precisely which modem is the "LC", but I have a SupraFAX
modem on my NeXTstation and it has always worked perfectly. You will,
however, need to get a proper cable. The Mac cable WILL NOT work as it
does not have hardware flow control. You can get a proper cable shipped
overnight for about $10 from NeXTconnection, uh.... which I think no
longer exists as such. Instead call PC-Connection and they should have
the cable available.
Hope this helps --- Tom
--
==========================================================================
=
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Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-5543
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Tablet,Digitizer,...
Message-ID: <1994Aug22.205955.9984@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <33aga1$l7j@fungusaur.wizards.com> <33atndINNqda@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 20:59:55 GMT
In article <33atndINNqda@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu writes:
>>In article <33aga1$l7j@fungusaur.wizards.com> rob@lighthouse.com (Rob
>>Kedoin) writes:
>>>BTW, does anyone know if there is any support for tablets in NS/FIP ? I
>>looked
>>>briefly, but didn't see the InstallTablet.app in /NextAdmin.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Since everyone is asking, I need to know if there is support
>>for tablets for a Motorola Color Slab 25MHz (Yes, I still use one).
>>Make, Price, where? Thanks.
I use an electrostatic Wacom 12"x12" tablet, model 321, just fine.
Make sure you get the serial port one. Any Mac 3rd part vendor sells
this...
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From: alpine@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diamond Viper Pro vs ATI GUP Turbo
Message-ID: <1994Aug22.112037.25473@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 22 Aug 94 11:20:37 MDT
References: <Aug.19.19.54.18.1994.21842@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <Aug.19.19.54.18.1994.21842@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> These two cards are probably the best cards out on the market right now. Both
> can support 1280X1024 in 24bit mode. What I want to know is, which of the
> two is better and/or faster than the other. Both cost about the same.
>
> This is what I know about the two cards, but am not sure what to make of this
> info:
>
> ATI GUP Turbo:
> - Kills com4 - its rom overlaps com4's address. This is obviously bad
> but maybe all cards in this class have to do this??? You can
> re-assign com4--not to mention I don't even think NS supports com4
> - it uses packed pixel technology to get 24bit in 1280X1024. It gets
> rid of an 8bit channel of alpha to achieve this resolution. But
> maybe the viper does this also?
> + it uses a true 64bit chip (i think)
> + includes built in video playback enhancer. Will it even work with
> NS?
>
> Viper Pro:
> - Uses interleaved 32bit memory to appear like it 64bit
> - Uses a 32 bit chip, Weitek 9100
> - For $100.00 more you can add in a video playback enhancer that works
> better than the ATI's. Will this even work under NS?
>
> So which is better under NeXTSTEP. i.e. faster. Will both do 1280X1024 under
> NeXTSTEP? I checked out the latest computer shopper, which was no help. It
> didn't do a comparison between the Viper Pro and the ATI GUPT.
>
> Later, John
>
John,we have been selling many NS systems configured with Diamond Viper Pros and
Stealths. Please feel free to call me at Alpine Direct 1-800-748-4558 for
answers.
Kimball Fife , ext.3127
From: larsen@lal.cs.utah.edu (Steve Larsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ultrastor 34F SCSI controller
Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:49:47 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <33avgr$9vm@magus.cs.utah.edu>
Does anyone have this controller working or know if it is supported?
Thanx,
--
Steve Larsen
larsen@sunset.cs.utah.edu
larsen@unislc.slc.unisys.com
I don't like stuff that sucks!
B&B
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Date: 22 Aug 1994 22:07:32 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <33b7j4$3iq@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <CuvFrM.825@eskimo.com>
In article <CuvFrM.825@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
> Was the SCSI-2 driver enough to talk to this drive? Or did you have
> to include the mac driver as well? Or perhaps as a replacement? I've
> been hearing good things about MO drives lately, but have heard
> literally nothing about NS compatibility. An additional feature that
> I have yet to hear is that such a drive can also connect via parallel
> port(understandably with slower throughput) so that I could also use
> it on non-SCSI systems.
>
Outside of the SCSI cabling problem I mentioned, the standard NextStep SCSI
drivers worked with the drive. That's one of the nice things about SCSI. I
also tried it on a NS/Intel machine with an Adaptec 1542cf and it worked fine
there too.
I don't know about using a parallel port. The drive that was shipped to us
only had the SCSI ports. In fact the Dos version of the Sierra package is the
same drive shipped with an adaptec SCSI card and drivers (as opposed to a
special PC bus version like most Dos CD-ROM drives). I suspect most if not all
Magneto-Optical drives are SCSI devices.
Jessica Hayden
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Date: 22 Aug 1994 22:13:06 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <33b7ti$3r4@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <CuvFrM.825@eskimo.com>
In article <CuvFrM.825@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
> Was the SCSI-2 driver enough to talk to this drive? Or did you have
> to include the mac driver as well? Or perhaps as a replacement? I've
> been hearing good things about MO drives lately, but have heard
> literally nothing about NS compatibility. An additional feature that
> I have yet to hear is that such a drive can also connect via parallel
> port(understandably with slower throughput) so that I could also use
> it on non-SCSI systems.
>
Outside of the SCSI cabling problem I mentioned, the standard NextStep SCSI
drivers worked with the drive. That's one of the nice things about SCSI,
devices are grouped into types (hardDrive, OpticalDrive, TapeDrive...) and each
drive manufacturer makes there SCSI device conform to a SCSI type. So the same
SCSI hardDrive driver will work for all SCSI hardrives (unless the manufacture
messed up on matching the SCSI spec). The latest Byte magazine has an
interesting article on SCSI buses for anyone who is interested. I also tried
the Sierra on a NS/Intel machine with an Adaptec 1542cf and it worked fine
there too.
I don't know about using a parallel port. The drive that was shipped to us
only had the SCSI ports. In fact the Dos version of the Sierra package is the
same drive shipped with an adaptec SCSI card and drivers (as opposed to a
special PC bus version like most Dos CD-ROM drives). I suspect most if not all
Magneto-Optical drives are SCSI devices.
Jessica Hayden
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Magneto-Optical drive support in NEXTSTEP
Date: 22 Aug 1994 22:13:15 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <33b7tr$3r5@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <CuvFrM.825@eskimo.com>
In article <CuvFrM.825@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
> Was the SCSI-2 driver enough to talk to this drive? Or did you have
> to include the mac driver as well? Or perhaps as a replacement? I've
> been hearing good things about MO drives lately, but have heard
> literally nothing about NS compatibility. An additional feature that
> I have yet to hear is that such a drive can also connect via parallel
> port(understandably with slower throughput) so that I could also use
> it on non-SCSI systems.
>
Outside of the SCSI cabling problem I mentioned, the standard NextStep SCSI
drivers worked with the drive. That's one of the nice things about SCSI,
devices are grouped into types (hardDrive, OpticalDrive, TapeDrive...) and each
drive manufacturer makes there SCSI device conform to a SCSI type. So the same
SCSI hardDrive driver will work for all SCSI hardrives (unless the manufacture
messed up on matching the SCSI spec). The latest Byte magazine has an
interesting article on SCSI buses for anyone who is interested. I also tried
the Sierra on a NS/Intel machine with an Adaptec 1542cf and it worked fine
there too.
I don't know about using a parallel port. The drive that was shipped to us
only had the SCSI ports. In fact the Dos version of the Sierra package is the
same drive shipped with an adaptec SCSI card and drivers (as opposed to a
special PC bus version like most Dos CD-ROM drives). I suspect most if not all
Magneto-Optical drives are SCSI devices.
Jessica Hayden
From: tevans@sal.cs.utah.edu (Terry Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Chinon CDS-535 CD-ROM drive?
Date: 22 Aug 1994 21:47:20 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <33b6d8$arh@magus.cs.utah.edu>
I just recently purchased a Chinon CDS-55 565, the internal one)
and I would like to know if it works with NS 3.2 for intel. Does
anybody have one working?
Terry Evans
tevans@cs.utah.edu
P.S. I checked all of the hardare comp. guides that I could find, but
they are all outdated and my drive isn't listed.
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Chinon CDS-535 CD-ROM drive?
Date: 22 Aug 1994 15:30:41 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Message-ID: <33b8uh$36k@crl4.crl.com>
References: <33b6d8$arh@magus.cs.utah.edu>
In article <33b6d8$arh@magus.cs.utah.edu>,
Terry Evans <tevans@sal.cs.utah.edu> wrote:
> I just recently purchased a Chinon CDS-55 565, the internal one)
>and I would like to know if it works with NS 3.2 for intel. Does
>anybody have one working?
Chinon CDS-535 (internal) works fine for me. I haven't used a photo-cd yet
though.
Best Regards.
--chip(cnayak@crl.com)
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Stuck in modem hell
Date: 23 Aug 1994 02:03:23 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <33bldb$6ft@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I'm having a really awful time trying to set up a couple of NeXTs around
here for dialin capability.
I need hints.
Desperately.
Here's the scoop:
I have modems on a nonturbo colour slab running 3.0.
One modem is a USR Sportster (14400 bps), the other modem is a Telebit
T2500 (9600 bps).
As far as I can tell, the modems are configured properly according to what
the NeXT Sys Admin manual says. I know one of the modem cables is a
hardware handshaking cable. I'm not too sure about the other one yet
though.
I've made all the requisite changes to /etc/ttys and added suitable
entries into /etc/gettytab all according to the manual.
I've got
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D38400" dialup on
in /etc/ttys and a D38400 entry in /etc/gettytab.
Did a kill -HUP 1 just like it says in the manual.
Then, for the moment of truth...
Had someone dial in. The modem answered, beeped and whistled, and looked
like it established a connection. Then promptly dropped the line. On the
other end, a bunch of garbled characters appeared (nothing even remotely
resembling a login prompt). This happens on both modems. I have no idea
why.
Somebody out there help me? please...?
Many thanks :)
Eugene
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: t.woo@dstc.edu.au (Tak Woo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium motherboards
Date: 23 Aug 1994 22:34:46 GMT
Organization: DSTC
Sender: tkwoo@spider.it.Bond.edu.au (Tak Woo)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33dti6$b8@surf.kowande.Bond.edu.au>
References: <Aug.14.20.52.14.1994.16398@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <32pnja$15k@marsu.s.bawue.de> <Aug.18.00.24.46.1994.10779@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Aug.18.00.24.46.1994.10779@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
|> Everyone told me to stay away from these combo boards, they are bad news, and
|> video in particular is slowed down significantly.
I agree, a good PCI board will give you the best performance. For myself, I am
really happy with the ASUS PCI board (I have no affiliation with ASUS). Most OS on
Intel platform are hardware sensitive than DOS.
|>
|> I was going to use a PCI video card and VLB SCSI card. But now will probably
|> wait for some good PCI SCSI card drivers to emerge and get a straignt PCI
|> system.
|>
|> Later, John
|>
|>
tak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bell@nosc.mil (Thomas Bell)
Subject: Premiere/PCI II Pentium/90 install problems with large IDE.
Message-ID: <1994Aug23.023450.29928@nosc.mil>
Keywords: Pentium, IDE
Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 02:34:50 GMT
I'm trying (and trying...and trying) to install NextStep 3.2 on a new
Premiere/PCI II (Intel) Pentium/90 motherboard with a 1 gig IDE disk. Intel
states that the board supports extended IDE drives but I keep getting mangled
entries and kernel panics when the installer tries to format the disk.
I have the latest BIOS upgrade from Intel (ver 1.00.08.AX1Z).
Has anyone else encountered or found a solution to this problem?
Tom Bell
bell@nosc.mil
Naval Command, Control, and Ocean Surveillance Center RDT&E Division
P.S.- I'll post a solution later if one exists.
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cannon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Date: 23 Aug 1994 04:44:19 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <33bur3$nus@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <32s3iv$j0@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com>
Keywords: power pc, canon
Tim Griswold <tim@dancingbear.com> writes:
>On 8 Aug 1994 17:37:33 GMT,
>cs@cloud9.net (Carl Shapiro) wrote:
>> "Since the NSA is one of the world's largest users of Next
>>hardware, those guys would have been happy to hear that black is back
>>this fall under a Cannon label. The Japanese company, with some help
>>from American consultants, has turned Next's never relased dual 881100
>>machine into a dual PowerPC. This means there will also be a PowerPC
>>version of NextStep to compete this year with AIX, System 7.x, and
>>Windows NT."
>> Is this for real? I do not know if anybody has already posted
>>this, but I was very surprised when I read this. Oh well... If there is
>>anyone out there who knows more about this that I do, please feal free to
>>post some more information about this. Thank you very much in advance...
>Everything I can find indicates the article is a missquote. I have talked
>to various folks at Canon and none are willing to comment directly on the
>article. The impression I get is that they will have a NEXTSTEP Power PC
>some time in the 2nd quarter of 1995, but I don't hear anything about a
>"Dual Powwer PC" NEXTSTEP machine. I would expect to see them introduce a
>single processor Power PC and get it stable before they go for a dual
>processor. There does appear to be a dual Pentium (could also be a dual
>486DX4) system coming in the Canon object.station line. That could be the
>confusion.
The word from Cannon which has "gone around" is that They ARE actually
releasing a 2 PPC machine. Everyone immediately took that to mean a
NEXTSTEP machine, however Cannon's only statement was that the machine
WILL NOT ship with NEXTSTEP as the operating system. No comment has been
made by NeXT regarding supporting the PPC either, and they probably
have their hands full enough with other platform support. Of course I'm
sure NEXTSTEP is running somewhere on a PPC machine of some kind.
--
David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer
CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008
Mail: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu NeXTMail: jeske@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: gast@charlie.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Gastkennung (PST))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BT-445S BIOS version problems
Date: 23 Aug 1994 06:57:13 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33c6k9$52q@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <337tqmINNi2g@ope001.iao.ford.com>
In article <337tqmINNi2g@ope001.iao.ford.com> fox@pt0204.pto.ford.com (Ken
Fox) writes:
>I have a BT-445S with BIOS 4.72 and firmware 3.37. According to both
>the NeXTanswers guide and my latest experience ;-) this won't work with
>NEXTSTEP. Ugh.
>
>- Ken
>
>--
>Ken Fox (fox@pt0204.pto.ford.com) | My opinions or statements do not
> | represent those of, nor are endorsed
>Ford Motor Company, Powertrain | by, Ford Motor Company.
>CAD/CAM/CAE Process Integration |
>AP Environment Section | "Is this some sort of trick question
> | or what?" -- Calvin
Hi Ken,
there is an alternative driver for the Buslogic not developped by NeXT. It
seems to be reliable and, according to the authors, a new version which
supports the latest firmware/BIOS should be out arround now. Contact:
Tomas Hurka <tom@hukatronic.cz>
Good Luck, Thyl Engelhardt, (me@thyls.muc.de)
From: rickf@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rick Stanley Francis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help setting up swap disk
Date: 23 Aug 1994 06:05:38 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <33c3ji$gf8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help! Setting a CP3040A as a swap disk
Distribution: world
--text follows this line--
I've been trying to set up a conner CP3040A (40MB SCSI drive) as a
swap disk for my next station turbo, unfortunately I've had limited
success- I'd be quite thankful for any suggestions, here are the
details:
The good news:
The system sees the drive, disk =q /dev/rsd1a returns
CONNER CP3040A-40mb-3.5
I can format the drive with no errors - using
/usr/etc/sdform /dev/rsd1a
I get:
device = dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 40 MBytes
*** FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST***
This will take approximately 5 minutes.
Do you wish to proceed (Y/anything) Y
Disk Format in progress...
***Format Complete***
The Problem:
I then reboot and log in as root - I get a scsi disk unreadable ignore
/initialize requester, if I select Initialize, then I get "Cannot
initial. see console for errors" (I get the same message if I ignore
and use diskbuilder to do the initialization). The error on console
is:
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1
...
It retries 9 times and then fives
Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
I get the same error for a few other differe#'s of bytes moved and a
"resid"'s. Any idea on how to initialize the dive?
It seems to me that there are some bad spots on the disk
(not too surprising as it's kind of old), so does anyone have any idea
how I could get the drive to remap them?
-Rick Francis
rickf@leland.stanford.edu
From: gast@charlie.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Gastkennung (PST))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: VLB Pentium motherboards & Saturn & Mercury
Date: 23 Aug 1994 06:59:48 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <33c6p4$53b@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <Aug.19.14.54.37.1994.28276@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Aug.19.14.54.37.1994.28276@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>> Finally, does anyone know anything about the 'Saturn' chipset? Is
it
>>better/works than the Neptune. Anyone using a Pentium motherboard with
a
>>Saturn chipset and NeXTSTEP? I've seen it advertised and was wondering
>>about it.
>
>There seems to be one other chipset of interest, the Mercury chipset. If
>anyone knows if this works well or otherwise, the info will be much
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>>Later, John
You should not confuse Mercury or Neptune which are Pentium chipsets with
the Saturn which is for 486! The version 3 of the Saturn works pretty
good, especially on the PCI bus. I have, though, no experience if it works
reliably with NS.
Thyl Engelhardt
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 22 Aug 1994 22:58:50 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <33bola$q1h@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory and information server, built around
the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia
announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability
to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://www.stepwise.com/
or
http://digifix.digifix.com/
using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic.
If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you
access to the server as well.
The entries currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
- User Group locations
- Mailing List archives and information
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is
available. You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
news://comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
news://comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
news://comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
news://comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
news://comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news://comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
news://comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
news://comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news://comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news://comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
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From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (CA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC Versa series & NS
Date: 23 Aug 1994 09:30:15 GMT
Organization: EUnet GB
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33cfj7$ba2@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Hi -
I thought I saw a post a while ago about NEC's Versa S and NeXTSTEP. Does
anybody know if this is a working combination?
Thanks,
C.
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus/NCR SCSI Driver and Intel Premire PCI II
Date: 23 Aug 94 09:52:45 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.777635565@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <32npov$hn7@convex.cc.uky.edu> <1994Aug17.025508.18806@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <32ujjj$28o4@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) writes:
>I had this problem on an Intel Plato motherboard. What worked for
>me was removing the PS2Mouse and the IDE drivers. For some reason,
>that worked. Leaving them in, it was just a continuous listing
>of DMA timeouts...
I always left them out, but that did not cure the "NCR timeout"
problem for me. After all the trouble I've been through with "EATA
timeouts", this really gives me a headache. Is it impossible today
to find one single supported and working PCI SCSI controller???
I really get angry about NeXTSTEP because the hardware works fine
with any other operating system but NS/I 3.2.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: is there any concensus on using the darn parallel port?!?!?!!
Date: 23 Aug 1994 04:19:26 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <33clvu$svo@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
okay, it seems that there is a bug. i've been trying to use djf_for_3.0
with my brand new deskjet 500c.
first, djf doesn't mention anything about using a parallel. there must
be someone who has used it since about 1992 on an intel machine with
a parallel port. anybody?
Regarding the problem that when you write the port doesn't always
write all the chars it should - yes, i found this to be true. i
attempted a fix in printpage.c that keeps trying until they are all written
this is where the bug appears to be triggered. since its so late in the
evening, i won't say much about it.
I add the two vars below with rnk:
void PrintScanLine(unsigned char *buf, int anz)
{
int minmode = 0;
unsigned char *temprow;
int amt_written; /* rnk, fix bug on writing too much */
int trys; /* rnk */
and I try to loop on the fwrite to fix it:
/* start of rnk */
if ( (amt_written = fwrite( bestrow, 1, bestsize, stdout)) < bestsize ) {
fprintf(stderr,"tried to write %d, actually wrote %d\n",
bestsize,amt_written);
trys=1000;
/* loop 1000 times trying to print it */
while(trys > 0 && bestsize != amt_written) {
bestrow = bestrow + amt_written;
if(ferror(stdout))
clearerr(stdout);
bestsize = bestsize - amt_written;
amt_written = fwrite( bestrow, 1, bestsize, stdout);
fprintf(stderr,
"loop(%d) just wrote %d at %x, should have written %
d\n",
1000-trys,amt_written, bestrow,bestsize);
trys--;
} /* end of rnk added code */
fprintf(stderr,"rnk: past bug fix section\n");
/* check for error and exit */
/*rnk: if ( ferror(stdout) )*/
if ( trys == 0 )
{
perror("Output error");
exit(-2);
}
if ( trys != 0 && ferror(stdout))
clearerr(stdout);
/* end of rnk */
when I try to print things, i see that for long files, i do frequently
fail to write the whole thing at once. but it never takes more than 1
extra try. very small examples (like a edit file with very simple text) work.
BUT!!! It still doesn't work on other things! What is the solution?
It seems to print part of the first page and then it gets
overwhelmeed. it starts printing out garbage.
So, what to do? Does the $75 next license (which I want to get)
actually work on a parallel port? Is it hopeless to use djf on the
parallel port?
Does the next license come with anything useful??? If it comes with a
working driver for a deskjet 500c that works on a parallel port I'd
probably get it. why would anyone ever buy dots? next's stuff is
way cheaper it seems. How about color? Do either of these support color?
I thought I read a while back that the next stuff wasn't adequate.
Unfortunately, I don't have a cdrom anymore, so i can't just look and
see what came with 3.1 intel.
This whole thing is more painful than the ppp for intel situation.
At least there was only one non-working ppp for intel... there are about
a dozen djf variants it seems. I believe that there must be
people who have made it work. from postings in the thread about
parallel printers several people said they made djf work.
So, does has anyone made djf work with a parallel port?
How about next's $75 driver disk?
Here was my final attempt at a printcap for a parallel printer.
it may have problems...
dj: \
:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs: \
:lp=/dev/pp0:ty=HP Deskjet 500:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/dj: \
:if=/usr/local/lib/djf:pw#80:pl#66:mx#0:sh:sf: \
:df=/usr/local/lib/djdf: \
:of=/usr/local/lib/djof: \
:nf=/usr/local/lib/djnf: \
:gf=/usr/local/lib/djgf: \
:cf=/usr/local/lib/djcf: \
:tf=/usr/local/lib/djtf: \
:vf=/usr/local/lib/djvf: \
:rf=/usr/local/lib/djrf:
-nick
From: hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP 35480A DAT drive
Date: 22 Aug 1994 21:18:58 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <33b4o3$46h@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
I seem to recall traffic on this group related to
the HP DAT drive... does it work with NS3.2 FIP?
Thanks. -John
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From: vanou@stat.ucl.ac.be (Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 4GB SCSI HD : disktab config needed ...?
Date: 23 Aug 1994 14:33:27 GMT
Organization: Universite Catholique de Louvain, Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33d1bn$hee@sci3.sri.ucl.ac.be>
Keywords: SCSI, HD, disktab
Hello world,
Fighting against connection of a 4GB SCSI HD
DEC DSP5400 on my Motorola NextStation (NS 3.0),
I was suggested by a kind NetPeople to make a
specific entry in /etc/disktab describing the
drive for initialisation. But unfortunately I
can t find the right configuration . Could any
kind soul correct me ... Many thanks !
Here is my problem ....
Knowing from the booklet the following specs :
Rotation : 5400 RPM
Number of disks : 13
Number of heads : 26
Tracks/surface : 3,058
Track capacity (bytes) : 40,448 - 60,928
Bytes/sector : 512 - 520
Sector/Track : 79 - 119
Sectors/Drive : 7,812,870
and adapting parms according other succesfull configurations,
I tried to settle the new entry in differents ways,
(for only one partition), the last one looking like :
DSP5400|DEC DSP5400S-512:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3055:nt#25:ns#98:ss#1024:rm#5400:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=odmach:z0#32:z1#96:rw=a:\
:pa#0:sa#3742375:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
from which the disk/label command recognizes the following :
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label: DSP5400
disk name: DSP5400
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
ncyls 3055 ntrack 25 nsect 98 rpm 5400
sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0
ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0
boot blocks: #1 at 32 #2 at 96
bootfile: odmach
host name: stat2ux
read/write partition: a
part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim
automount type
a 0 3742375 8192 1024 3 4096 5% yes time
yes 4.3BSD
but the disk/init command invariably answers with a
seek error on the previous-last block, whatever be
the size of my partition, as in the associated output :
disk> init
DESTROYS ALL EXISTING DISK DATA -- really initialize? y
enter host name: stat2ux
enter disk label: DSP5400
writing disk label
Block 0 boot is "/usr/standalone/boot", ok? y
creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a
/usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a
setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10
/etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 3742375 98 25 8192 1024 3 5 90 4096 s
seek error: 3742374
wtfs: Error 0
/usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1)
Thanks again for the answer !
----------------------------------
Christian Van Oudenhove - Universite Catholique de Louvain
Institut de Statistique - Voie du Roman Pays, 34
B-1348 Louvain-La-Neuve - BELGIUM
Tel : 32-10/47.30.48 - Fax 32-10/47.30.32
E-mail : vanou@stat.ucl.ac.be
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 23 Aug 1994 14:13:48 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com>
Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC?
A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90.
-----------------------------------------------------
Performance (All values are approximate but EQUAL in rounding error)
SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2
--------- -------- ----- -------------
712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000
712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000
Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net)
The above configurations assume 525MB HD, 16MB RAM, 17" Monitor,
2x CD-ROM.
Why are we all so anxious to gravitate to the HP platform when there
are dealers who will NeXTstep certify the Intel based platforms?
Does the HP platform offer something other than equivalent
performance.
I have not forgotten to consider graphics. However, only those
genuinely needing 24-bit color need to pay up for it. Even NeXT has
realized this with its' introduction of 8-bit color coming in NS
v3.3.
NeXT has made a tremendous dent into the financial apps market.
Although high end graphics are great, but do we really need 24-bit or
true color (as opposed to 8 or 16 bit color).
Therefore, for most of us developing applications, are we willing to
pay up $5000 per workstation for graphics?
The software is far more expensive (NS/PA). If someone knows how to
get User & Dvlpr CDs for NS/PA as cheaply as we originally got NS/FIP
($1000), please advise.
If I am missing something, please correct me. Thanks in advance.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Problem booting with Talus NCR PCI SCSI drivers
Message-ID: <1994Aug23.150024.29234@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 15:00:24 GMT
I just replaced my DPT 2021 with an NCR-based PCI SCSI card and installed the
Talus drivers. The install went fine and the drivers work, but every time I
boot, I get a message telling me that I installed the drivers from floppy when
I installed NEXTSTEP and asking me to insert the floppy disk in order to load
the drivers. I have checked the NCRxxx.config and all executables and .table
(Default and Instance0) files are there and appear to be configured correctly.
I also have checked the System.config dir and the Instance0.table does contain
the NCRxxx driver in its list of Boot Drivers.
Has anyone seen this problem before? Any suggestions?
If it matters, I am running it on an Intel Premier PCI/II (P90) motherboard.
Thanks...
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: Thorr-kan, the White Minotaur, and Horde Father-Confessor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: REQUEST: Source for NeXT spare parts
Date: 23 Aug 1994 14:06:16 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33cvooINN1vg@news.gac.edu>
I realize this may be posted to inappropriate groups, but I am a bit desperate.
I would appreciate any phone numbers and addresses for companies that still
sell NeXT parts for monitors, printers, stations, and keyboards. We have a
large number of stations on campus and no longer have a source for hardware.
Recently, several have failed. The problems have been IDed, but we can't
replace the parts!
Any replies should be e-mailed to bidwell@gac.edu or mcutter@gac.edu. I
usually don't have the time to keep up with these groups.
Thanks.
-Matt C.
guardian- 1. one who has care of a person or property. 2. In other
words, someone who puts their ass between others and danger.
*********************************************************************
Nuke 'til they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!
Matt Cutter, e-mail to mcutter@nic.gac.edu OR mcutter@vax2.gac.edu
Gustavus couldn't afford my opinions if they wanted them!
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: sharing a local printer
Date: 23 Aug 1994 17:06:01 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <33da9p$jpf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
We have an hp laser printer connected (via serial) to the NeXT's B
serial port.
Both the machine, and an ibm compatible (compaq, 486 running windows 3.1)
are connected, via ethernet.
Is it possible to have the compaq print to the printer connected
directly to the NeXT? (040 color slab, running NeXTStep 3.0)
Thanks!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: paulg@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr P.W. Gould)
Subject: Re: Do Apple CD300 Pluses (without Caddies!!) work with NS?
Message-ID: <Cuzvs7.ErA@liverpool.ac.uk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@liverpool.ac.uk (News System)
Organization: The University of Liverpool
References: <ROBERT.94Aug19013919@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 15:45:42 GMT
Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>Anybody connected one of these to either white or black hardware?
I have one connected to a 25 MHz 040 cube, and it works very well.
Paul
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 23 Aug 1994 18:21:12 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33demo$efr@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com>
In article <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
writes:
> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2
> --------- -------- ----- -------------
> 712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000
> 712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000
^^^
These are incorrect numbers. That entry should be the 712/80i, which
was fp impaired, and didn't last long as a product.
The correct entries are:
SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price
--------- -------- -----
712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
712/80i 84 79 not sold
712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
> The above configurations assume 525MB HD, 16MB RAM, 17" Monitor,
> 2x CD-ROM.
You should be able to find an HP VAR/VAD that can offer at least
10% off the list prices. I've seen one such dealer advertise in
this group.
You should be able to realize major savings by purchasing base
systems from an HP VAR/VAD, and adding 3rd party RAM, a larger
hard disk drive, perhaps a larger monitor, etc. 3rd party prices
for hard disk drives have fallen through the floor.
> Why are we all so anxious to gravitate to the HP platform when there
> are dealers who will NeXTstep certify the Intel based platforms?
> Does the HP platform offer something other than equivalent
> performance.
One big advantage: according to NeXT, the only way to compile an
application triple-FAT will be to use the NEXTSTEP/HP
developer release.
I'll leave the performance pissing contests to someone else
this time ;-) We've just ordered a 712/80, so I'll have a
chance to compare the hands-on "feel" of it next to a 712/60.
> The software is far more expensive (NS/PA). If someone knows how to
> get User & Dvlpr CDs for NS/PA as cheaply as we originally got NS/FIP
> ($1000), please advise.
Those were special prices offered as incentives to purchase
NEXTSTEP/Intel. Those deals have expired, I believe. What
makes you think there won't be a similar offering for
NEXTSTEP/HP?
--
Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065
Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923
Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: is there any concensus on using the darn parallel port?!?!?!!
Message-ID: <1994Aug23.172107.425@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: DART Software GmbH
References: <33clvu$svo@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 17:21:07 GMT
In article <33clvu$svo@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick
Kline) writes:
> So, what to do? Does the $75 next license (which I want to get)
> actually work on a parallel port? Is it hopeless to use djf on the
> parallel port?
Try DOTS. It works on the parallel port. As well as serial ports, SCSI and
Ethernet. And it supports more than 400 different printer models.
I think we have really made DOTS as inexpensive as possible and you even get
free upgrades in the case that the driver would break under a new system
release.
It's really not worth it to spend hours and hours to find out about parallel
and serial driver problems when a working solution is only $200 including the
Adobe PostScript license (Dots is $125 and the license is $75)
You can download the DOTS-Driver from various FTP archives or you'll find it on
the DART and the Alembic Demo CD. Dots is available from NeXT distributors and
resellers as well as directly from DART.
Wilfried Beeck
DART Software GmbH
Virchowstr. 17-19
22767 Hamburg
Germany
(++49) 40-38023-0
(++49) 40-38023-290 fax
dots@dart.de
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem booting with Talus NCR PCI SCSI drivers
Date: 23 Aug 94 20:28:22 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.777673702@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <1994Aug23.150024.29234@il.us.swissbank.com>
ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) writes:
>I just replaced my DPT 2021 with an NCR-based PCI SCSI card and installed the
>Talus drivers. The install went fine and the drivers work, but every time I
>boot, I get a message telling me that I installed the drivers from floppy when
>I installed NEXTSTEP and asking me to insert the floppy disk in order to load
>the drivers. I have checked the NCRxxx.config and all executables and .table
>(Default and Instance0) files are there and appear to be configured correctly.
>I also have checked the System.config dir and the Instance0.table does contain
>the NCRxxx driver in its list of Boot Drivers.
>Has anyone seen this problem before? Any suggestions?
>If it matters, I am running it on an Intel Premier PCI/II (P90) motherboard.
Eric,
be glad that it works at all and don't worry about senseless boot infos.
For me, the NCR driver does not work at all (ASUS NCR with Intel Plato P90
board, AMI BIOS 1.00.06). All I get is "NCR timeout", and it doesn't matter
if the disk is a IBM 0664 or a Fujitsu 2624.
Regards,
Markus.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 23 Aug 1994 22:24:36 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <33dsv4$omg@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com>
"James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> writes:
>Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC?
>A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90.
>-----------------------------------------------------
>Performance (All values are approximate but EQUAL in rounding error)
> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2
> --------- -------- ----- -------------
>712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000
>712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000
>Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net)
You make me appreciate still being in edu land!
I believe the SPECfp92 for the 712/80 should be 122, not 79. This
makes the 712/80 especially nice for float-intensive work.
But I'm starting to wonder if the 712/60 is really competitive with
the P90, since I can get a P90 system from eCesys for slightly less
than the comparable 712/60, even at educational prices.
--David Finton
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: is there any concensus on using the darn parallel port?!?!?!!
Date: 23 Aug 1994 15:13:24 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <33dsa4$akt@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <33clvu$svo@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <1994Aug23.172107.425@dart.de>
In article <1994Aug23.172107.425@dart.de>,
Wilfried Beeck <wbeeck@dart.de> wrote:
>
>Try DOTS. It works on the parallel port. As well as serial ports, SCSI and
>Ethernet. And it supports more than 400 different printer models.
>
>I think we have really made DOTS as inexpensive as possible and you even get
>free upgrades in the case that the driver would break under a new system
>release.
>
>It's really not worth it to spend hours and hours to find out about parallel
>and serial driver problems when a working solution is only $200 including the
>Adobe PostScript license (Dots is $125 and the license is $75)
I appreciate the fact that there are commercial apps and that someone has
gone to the trouble to write a driver, but this is too expensive for me.
The whole os cost only $250. It is worth at least 10 or 20 hours of
playing with the damn thing to try to make it work for me. Plus, it
appears that some other guy already figured out how to use ghostscript...
Izumi Ohzawa tells me that his ascii-only print jobs get hang up after
1384 chars have been printed. I think that must be about
how many chars I print. I have a file and reliably, every time I
print it the printer hangs after the same thing has been printed.
I'm trying valiantly to get some info from next about what is on the
printer cdrom, but so far after two calls no one can tell me anything.
I will now try to call developer support. Of course, they won't be able
to tell me anything either.
I am using the djf_for_3.0. One person told me it worked reliable for him.
It works for me if I print very very small pages. I'll bet that i am
running into the 1384 char limit too.
I want to buy the printer license cdrom from next, but I'd like to make sure
it has something of value for me.
I can always buy dots as a last resort. Consider this at least:
I bought a deskjet 500c yesterday for $339. For $600 I could have bought
a cheapo laser printer with postscript. $339 + $200 (for dots) is $539,
almost what a laser printer costs.
Whereas $339 + $75 is a bit more reasonable.
Just what is on this cdrom?
And I am still compiling stories on making djf work on a parallel port.
I've heard just set the TTY in the makefile to pp0, but that didn't work
for me. I also tried to fix the fwrite bug.
/* left is number of chars to write: */
while(left != 0) {
written = fwrite(ptr,1,left,stdout);
fprintf(stderr,"failed to write %d, wrote only %d\n",left,written);
if(written != left) {
ptr = ptr + written;
left = left - written;
}
}
This should work, but all my print jobs still hang. I get these
rewrite's very regularly. I will have to check the code and see if
this is every 1384 chars. Is this the fix that the ghostscript person
found? The djf driver seems to work except for this hangup.
-nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Subject: Re: Cannnnnon Dual PowerPC NeXT
Message-ID: <1994Aug23.203217.5279@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 20:32:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO
References: <9408181710.AA01289@nesteggs.com> <336g59$b30@search01.news.aol.com>
In article <336g59$b30@search01.news.aol.com>, Adguys <adguys@aol.com> wrote:
>In article <9408181710.AA01289@nesteggs.com>, crawford@nesteggs.com
>(Michael E. Crawford) writes:
>
>"So now Company II, nee PowerHouse, is probably very close to a real
>dual PowerPC machine that is some progeny of NRW.
>
>>> Actually, Powerhouse will not sell computer products at all to the end
>user. Their charter is to provide technology on an OEM basis only.
My understanding was that like 3DO they would make and sell specks, but
they would also build actual machines.
-Mont
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Message-ID: <1994Aug23.202640.4533@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 94 20:26:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO
References: <1994Aug20.014749.4027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <3363kq$12t@news.ycc.yale.edu> <336r1f$86g@panix3.panix.com>
In article <336r1f$86g@panix3.panix.com>, Alex Lee <zone@panix.com> wrote:
>I was in Japan recently, and Cannon has been selling their NeXTstation 486/66
>for a while now. In Japan, the price for the NeXTstation is considered
>reasonable, as import taxes, protectionist policies, and silly buracracy keep
>the price of software, hardware, both import and domestic at an artificially
>high level.
This is not the same machine as the object.station 41. The machines for
sale in Japan are based on the intel motherboard (I believe). I do not
know if the object.stations will be available in Japan.
>Alex
>zone@panix.com
-Mont
From: matthews@farside (David Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MicroTech Screwed me when I bought 16 megs of RAM from them
Date: 23 Aug 1994 23:14:24 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Message-ID: <33dvsg$fd7@kelso.abbott.com>
Keywords: screwed, ram, microtech, trw, citibank, ripoff, bad service
MICROTECH SCREWED ME, WHEN I BOUGHT 16 MEGS OF RAM FROM THEM
Fellow NeXT Users,
I am making this post to warn people about the poor service I
received from MicroTech. I bought 16 megs of ram at a cheap price (about
$450) that they advertised through a sales rep which came to a San Diego
NeXT user group meeting. It took almost 12 weeks for me to get my RAM.
And, it didn't even fit in the ram sockets -- despite MicroTech sales
people claiming to sell to the NeXT community, they didn't know that 8 meg
simms didn't work in the NeXTStation color non-turbo (which I repeated
several times to them to make sure they got the machine correct because I
didn't think it would accept 8meg SIMMS, but they told me there's would
work -- they actually did fit in, but only barely, and machine didn't boot
-- and in retrospect I shouldn't have even tried booting it with the sims
so tightly pressed together.).
KEY POINT:
So, I sent the ram back, even insured it (probably should have
used UPS, but used general mail instead). They received it (and didn't
claim that the packaging had been broken into on transit so I couldn't
claim my insurance) but they only claimed there was 1 SIMM, instead of the
2 which I sent them [The package was well wrapped in duct tape and then
postage handling tape after that].
I believe that their handlers may not have thoroughly searched
amongst the "plastic peanuts" for all the simms, and just grabbed the
first one and threw out the box without searching further (even through I
put an RMA # on it which would have told them there were 2 pieces). They
refused to consider such a possibility nor to let me question the opener
of the package.
They refused to credit my credit card for the 2nd simm, so I got
stuck with $250 + $200 in finance charges including $15/month late fees,
when I canceled my credit card and told Citibank that I wouldn't pay for
it and ignored their bills (I did pay the undisputed portion of the $1500
balance in 1 payment upon canceling). I still haven't paid for it but it
went on my TRW. I was hoping they would sue me, so I could drag Microtech
into court as another party in the dispute -- it simply isn't worth my
time to initiate a lawsuit to get $250 back, and Citibank certainly
didn't protect me -- if they had refused to give Microtech the $,
Microtech would have had to sue me, which I would have had no problem
with, since I believe they would have lost, and they would have to hassle
with it. Maybe I should have sued them and would have got more than $250,
especially for all the headaches they caused me (who knows, I was in
California at the time...).
I ordered RAM from another place and they had it to me in 2 days,
even though I spent about another $90 because ram prices had gone up some
and they were not as cheap, but at least there service was acceptable.
Admittedly, they also believed that their 8meg simms would work, but I
disproved this for them as well. I ended up adding 4 4 meg simms in
addition to the 4 4 meg simms I already had, filling the 8 sockets, for 32
megs of RAM.
Microtech also played run around, saying that people I had talked
to earlier had "left the company", and I got voice mail.
SUMMARY:
Don't buy any products from MicroTech unless you do it on terms
such as "will pay you in 90 days", so you can't be screwed into paying for
products they ship which are incompatible, etc. But, even if I didn't
have to pay for it, the headache was certainly extensive -- so I might
recommend not buying anything from them under any terms.
We need an internet "better business bureau" complaint server --
so people can check it out before ordering, and post their complaints.
Dave
P.S. This occurred about 1.5 years ago, I haven't got around to voicing
this complaint because I didn't have a news feed from my home computer,
but now I have access to news... At least Microtech will be made to pay in
some form for its POOR SERVICE. I don't intend to sue them now (its
probably too late). Can you sue TRW or Citibank as well for charging me
for an illegitimate charge and reporting it as unpaid, to get it off your
credit report?
P.S.S. Is there a better way to return items -- ex. I don't think the post
office will "certify the contents of a box" they ship, so the receiver
can't deny the contents of the box. Does UPS offer this service. If not,
its there word against yours. Though I doubt MicroTech would be stupid
enough to do it on purpose (who knows?), they certainly make mistakes
which you pay for.
Note: MicroTech, TRW, Citibank are trademarked by the respective companies
(not that you would want to associate yourself with their name, anyway).
--
Signing Off .... Dave
Email: matthews@woodstock.abbott.com (flames to: dm@flamer.reamer.void)
Universal Legal Disclaimer -- My posts are written in the following
language: "Dave Lang version 83838929" (syntax similar to English,
but semantics defined by me and subject to continual change at my whim).
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC Versa series & NS
Date: 24 Aug 1994 00:45:00 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33e56c$pr3@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <33cfj7$ba2@marble.Britain.EU.net>
In article <33cfj7$ba2@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk
(CA) writes:
>
> I thought I saw a post a while ago about NEC's Versa S and NeXTSTEP.
Does anybody know if this is a working combination?
>
> *********************************************
> Charles Ashley
> Learned Information Ltd.
> charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...)
> *********************************************
I have NeXTSTEP on a NEC Versa-E and it runs essentially
perfectly. I kept back 50 MB for a DOS partition, but I never use that
and will probably remove it soon. I have the mono screen because I use
it outdoors, in the field and at sea, at lot, and want the brighter
screen in daylight (but I have not been able to compare the two screens
in daylight, as no dealer I went to had the color screen version).
NeXTSTEP (I am told) does not run on the Versa S model because
that one uses a pen rather than a track ball, and NeXT has no driver for
the pen. I installed the latest Microsoft TrackBall, and it works very
well: no problem to install, it runs automatically.
I like the NEC very much because (1) one can add a second
battery in place of the FD for airplane travel, and (2) the HD is
removable so that one can take it out in hotel rooms, etc. Thus if the
computer is stolen, you don't lose your data. This is very useful for
people who travel to remote places where security is not the greatest.
Glad to pass on any further information.
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 24 Aug 1994 00:40:21 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <33e4tl$rpf@news.worldlink.com>
> <Nathan Janette> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu wrote:
> The correct entries are:
> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price
> --------- -------- -----
> 712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no
CDROM)
> 712/80i 84 79 not sold
> 712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no
CDROM)
> Pentium/90 87 72 $ 5,000 (list,
w/CDROM)
Thanks for the update ... what's your source?
> Those were special prices offered as incentives to purchase
> NEXTSTEP/Intel. Those deals have expired, I believe. What
> makes you think there won't be a similar offering for
> NEXTSTEP/HP?
In market economies (such as comp.sys.next.marketplace), the price of
something amounts the price at which it is readily available. NS/FIP
lists for $2500; was introduced at $300 and is currently trading
around $800. NS/HPPA is being offered between $2200 and $3000 from
various VAR/VADs. Unless you know something no one else does, what
makes YOU think that NeXT is going to offer NS/HPPA at a special
deal? If you really do know something, share the wealth so that we
all might not waste big money.
Frankly, I find the "wait and see" attitude towards the NS/HPPA
platform generating a price depression on NS/FIP. Certainly the
712/60 is not worth the effort unless you are marketing a development
product to those users. But I can not see users migrating to the
712/60 side of the NS/HPPA platform for the performance, can you? At
$10-11k, the 712/80 (uncrippled) better produce advantages far
greater than the 2:1 price ratio implies.
Overall, I am hopeful. NeXT needs a good shot in the arm (hardware
wise). If there are any NS/HPPA success stories out there, please
post or email them. People are hungry to hear them.
Peace,
James
p03378@psilink.com
> --
> Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065
> Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923
> Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
> Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube
Guy"
From: blenko-tom@CS.YALE.EDU (Tom M. Blenko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Instructions: Microsoft bus mouse on pre-ADB NeXT hardware
Date: 24 Aug 1994 01:34:08 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Message-ID: <33e82g$bpj@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
The mouse on my cube has been declining and my efforts to
improve the situation yielded only temporary results. So
I've hooked up a Microsoft bus mouse in its place.
Instructions have been posted previously for the Logitech bus
mouse, and the situation isn't too different here (I haven't
checked to see if the pinouts are the same between Logitech
and Microsoft). The Logitech mouse is strictly right-handed
(they say a left-handed version is available) while the
Microsoft mouse is ambidextrous (I use my mouse with both
hands); Logitech is 3-button while MS is 2-button. And they
aren't cheap: $99 for the MS mouse at CompUSA, with Logitech
about $15 cheaper -- and of course you end up with a board you
don't want.
The MS mouse comes with a "Mini HDIN" 9-pin plug. I found no
way to use this, and had to cut the cable and wire to a mini
DIN 8-pin plug. If you haven't built a cable with an 8-pin
mini DIN before, take the advice that has been offered here
before and don't try to solder to the plug -- get a cable with
bare wires or a cable with the plug on one end (lots of Macs
use these) and cut it.
The MS mouse fits my hand better than the NeXT mouse did (the
latter has caused chronic pain in my hands). The buttons also
work better for me. On the other hand, it is lighter and the
ball inside is smaller so it doesn't roll quite as smoothly
under my current working conditions as the NeXT mouse did. But
I'm glad I made the change.
On to the details. Notice that if the pins weren't numbered
differently, the layout would be approximately the same. The
MS mouse doesn't use switch numbered 2. And there is no
reason I know of that another MS mouse need have the same
color coding, so check it against the pins after cutting the
cable.
NeXT mouse
wiring:
1 +5V
2 XA
3 XB
4 YA
5 YB
6 right button
7 left button
8 ground
shell chassis ground
pinout:
6 7 8
3 4 5
1 2
Microsoft Bus Mouse
wiring:
1 switch (2)
2 left switch (3) Blue
3 ground Black
4 XB White
5 YA Orange
6 YB Yellow
7 right switch (1) Green
8 +5V Red
9 XA Brown
pinout:
1 2 3
4 5 6 7
8 9
Tom
From: soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Seagate Warranty?
Date: 24 Aug 1994 02:52:15 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center
Message-ID: <33eckv$h6u@convex.cc.uky.edu>
We've got a bunch of NSTCs with Seagate ST3283N 250M drives...these drives have
been dropping like flies...NeXT replaced the first few, but now we are out of
the normal NeXT warranty period...does anyone know if Seagate warranties these
drives for > 1 year?
thanx,
--
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Message-ID: <bchin.777698267@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 03:17:47 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware you write:
>Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC?
>A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90.
>-----------------------------------------------------
> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2
> --------- -------- ----- -------------
>712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000
>712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000
>Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net)
I've seen dealer pricing on the 712/60 config for around $6k and the 712/80
around $8-9k. If you have all PCI components and equal video configurations,
then the Pentium might actually edge towards $7k.
The numbers I have from John DiMarco's unofficial SPECtable are:
HP 712/60 PA7100LC 60 64/64+1 58.1 78.5 Jan94 HP
HP 712/80 PA7100LC 80 256/256+1 84.3 122.3 Jun94 comp.benchmarks
Intel XPRESS Pentium 66 256+8/8 64.5 56.9 Mar93 comp.arch(Intel)
Intel XPRESS Pent735 90 512+8/8 90.1 72.7 Mar94 comp.arch(Intel)
Just for fun, here are some more:
HP 715/75 PA7100 75 256/256 82.6 127.2 Jan94 HP
HP 735/125 PA7100 125 256/256 136 201 Apr94 HP
Micrnics M4P 80486DX4 33/100 256+16 51.4 26.6 Mar94 comp.arch(Intel)
Intel XPRESS Pent815 100 512+8/8 100.0 80.6 Mar94 comp.arch(Intel)
Don't use these SPECmark numbers to compare exactly...
The SPECmark numbers for the HP were done on HP-UX with HP's compiler.
The Pentium/90 numbers were on Intel's very expensive Xpress line
with Intel's own OS and own compiler. You're not likely to buy the
Xpress or run in the same environment. Note that no Neptune based
P90 supports 512k cache as tested above.
None of the machines above were tested under NEXTSTEP
with NeXT's compiler. SPECmarks don't test multitasking video, network,
or disk I/O performance. None of the numbers above represent real
world performance under NEXTSTEP. Look at these numbers as representative
of maximum performance when tweaked just right by the companies involved.
I feel that Intel CPU's suffer a lot more when put into real world
situations with relatively poor memory & I/O subsystems.
Also, if you pay HP $695(?) to join thier developer program, then
you get 52% off the purchase of 6 machines (or something like that).
NEXTSTEP/Intel and NEXTSTEP/HP cost the same new from NeXT...
IMHO, if you are looking for solid workstation performance
and you don't need to run SoftPC, then definitely check out the
HP systems. I do hesitate though, mainly because of HP's
proprietary mentality (own SIMMs, sometimes hard to get the machines
w/o HP's own monitors, outrageous peripheral pricing, etc.) And
of course, you can't play Doom with mouse control & sound on an
HP (yet?).
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NEC Versa series & NS
Message-ID: <bchin.777699381@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <33cfj7$ba2@marble.Britain.EU.net> <33e56c$pr3@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 03:36:21 GMT
passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) writes:
>In article <33cfj7$ba2@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk
>(CA) writes:
>>
>> I thought I saw a post a while ago about NEC's Versa S and NeXTSTEP.
>Does anybody know if this is a working combination?
>>
> I have NeXTSTEP on a NEC Versa-E and it runs essentially
>perfectly. I kept back 50 MB for a DOS partition, but I never use that
>and will probably remove it soon. I have the mono screen because I use
>it outdoors, in the field and at sea, at lot, and want the brighter
>screen in daylight (but I have not been able to compare the two screens
>in daylight, as no dealer I went to had the color screen version).
I want to add a few comments... I've installed and worked with
NS on the Versa 33 (non E), Versa E DX2/50 mono, and Versa E DX4/75 color.
The Versa 33 and DX2/50 had 20mb of RAM, and the DX4 had 24mb of RAM.
First, NEXTSTEP runs as well as can be expected given the limitations
of 640x480 screens, no L2 cache, and no power management support (yet).
With no L2 cache (like most portables out there), the machine suffers
a 10-20% speed loss compared to their desktop counterparts. Also,
while the color active matrix screen is awesome, the monochrome
active matrix is bothersome. It's not very bright, never adjusts
quite right, has lots of artifacts on the screen, and seems to
have some fluid flow of pixels waving across (kinda hard to describe,
but drives me nuts). In addition, the serial ports are only 16450's so
serial performance is really lousy. Another thing is that 2.5"
IDE hard drives are *not* fast. Disk I/O performance is below par,
but that's problematic across the board.
The machine is well designed though, seems to hold together pretty
well, and NEC offers a pretty good warranty program for road warriors.
The keyboard is definitely nice for a laptop and the trackball on the
front like that is debatable. I like it, but I know others that do not.
Of course, the machine runs Windows quite well.
Additional tech notes:
I couldn't get the Alps PS/2 mouse to work with it... that mouse worked
on two other desktop machines and looks and feels just like the Canon
object.station mouse (available from Software Etc. for ~$40). I did
get some generic PS/2 mice to work with it.
Also, it doesn't switch between the on board trackball and external
mouse on the fly... ditto for the keyboard. I sometimes have
to actually power off for it to recognize the external mouse and/or
keyboard.
I couldn't get a DPT 2021 to work in the docking station; I tried
everything and contacted both DPT & NEC. I ended up borrowing
an Adaptec 1542B to install NS; others have mentioned that the
1542C and CF work. The docking station is very expensive (~$600)
but hopefully when 3.3 supports PCMCIA, we won't need it. The
docking station has no local bus slots and only *2* ISA 16 bit
slots. It would seem to make sense to also have a power strip
embedded in the huge thing (especially for $600), but it doesn't
have that either.
> I like the NEC very much because (1) one can add a second
>battery in place of the FD for airplane travel, and (2) the HD is
>removable so that one can take it out in hotel rooms, etc. Thus if the
>computer is stolen, you don't lose your data. This is very useful for
>people who travel to remote places where security is not the greatest.
Note that many laptops these days have these two features... however,
I'm not sure many of those companies will survive longer than their
warranties.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC Ultralite and problems with FDD
Date: 24 Aug 1994 01:46:11 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <33e8p3$s28@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <33akec$qij@worf.toppoint.de>
In article <33akec$qij@worf.toppoint.de> hah@toppoint.de (Heiko Hahn) writes:
> I installed NSfIP on my NEC Ultralite Versa Notebook (20 MB RAM, 500 MB IDE
> But everytime when I try to install third party software from floppy disk I get
> errors like "Workspace Manager Error" or simply read errors followed with an
--------------------------------
If you are using ED floppies, the NEC will not read them. You have to use the old style
ordinary floppies. A flaw in the system.
---------------------------------
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
-------------------------
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC Ultralite and problems with FDD
Date: 24 Aug 1994 01:47:04 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <33e8qo$s5t@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <33akec$qij@worf.toppoint.de>
In article <33akec$qij@worf.toppoint.de> hah@toppoint.de (Heiko Hahn) writes:
> I installed NSfIP on my NEC Ultralite Versa Notebook (20 MB RAM, 500 MB IDE
> But everytime when I try to install third party software from floppy disk I get
> errors like "Workspace Manager Error" or simply read errors followed with an
--------------------------------
If you are using ED floppies, the NEC will not read them. You have to use the old style
ordinary floppies.
A flaw in the system.
---------------------------------
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: alex@gagme.wwa.com (Alex Yundov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: need driver for new ATI cards
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 22:52:53
Organization: Mangusta, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <alex.8.0016E254@gagme.wwa.com>
Keywords: ATI
Hi everyne,
I would like to know where i can get NS driver for the ATI M64 card.
Thanks
alex
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 24 Aug 1994 09:09:17 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33f2nt$i7@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <3363kq$12t@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Nathan F. Janette writes
> In article <1994Aug20.014749.4027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
> > I can also discover that the DX4 is
> > as fast under NEXTSTEP as a P/66 (integer). I can then, finally,
> > rest secure with my P/90 crashing/window server dying once or twice
> > a day.
>
> Must be a bum system, sorry to hear that.
NeXT's Display Postscript relies heavily on floating-point performance. While
You might get the same integer performance, graphics will be slower.
(Of course, this also depends on the graphics system itself).
-Rainer
----------------------------------
"God is real, until declared integer."
rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: is there any concensus on using the darn parallel port?!?!?!!
Date: 24 Aug 1994 03:04:04 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <33f5uk$fgh@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <33clvu$svo@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <1994Aug23.172107.425@dart.de> <33dsa4$akt@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
I made djf_for_3.0 work. I'm now certain about the bug in the parallel
port driver. If you write lots of small numbers of bytes it gets
confused. So, based on the info from the guy who made this all work for
gnu, I changed the driver so that it prints all the printer commands
to a file, and then I have another small pgm that reads those commands
in chunks of 4k each until its done, like:
while( r = read(buf) != 0) {
while( r != 0 ) {
n = write(buf,r);
r = r - n; buf = buf+n;
}
}
This makes it work. Now I guess I will start looking around for color
support... It seems that the same general scheme should work.
I still would like to know whats on the next printer cdrom disk.
I'll post the diffs in a couple of days. my current changes are too
grody to share.
-nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Problem booting with Talus NCR PCI SCSI drivers
Message-ID: <Cv16LG.4rF@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <next2.777673702@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 08:36:52 GMT
In article <next2.777673702@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) writes:
>
> >I just replaced my DPT 2021 with an NCR-based PCI SCSI card and
installed the
> >Talus drivers. The install went fine and the drivers work, but every
time I
> >boot, I get a message telling me that I installed the drivers from
floppy when
> >I installed NEXTSTEP and asking me to insert the floppy disk in order
to load
> >the drivers. I have checked the NCRxxx.config and all executables and
table
> >(Default and Instance0) files are there and appear to be configured
correctly.
> >I also have checked the System.config dir and the Instance0.table does
contain
> >the NCRxxx driver in its list of Boot Drivers.
>
> >Has anyone seen this problem before? Any suggestions?
>
Do the following:
- move /usr/Devices to /usr/Devices.whatever
- create a new directory /usr/Devices
- copy (or move) _only_ the needed xxx.config folders to /usr/Devices
- close your eyes and reboot :-)
There seems to be a bug in the scandir function of the filesystem driver
active at boot time. If there are too many subdirs in /usr/Devices it
won't find the last ones. So just rebuild /usr/Devices with the needed
Drivers. Don't forget to include System.config
Usual disclaimers apply...
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From: hunter@werple.apana.org.au (James Gardiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Talus/NCR SCSI Driver Questions.
Date: 24 Aug 1994 23:52:32 +1000
Organization: werple public-access unix, Melbourne
Message-ID: <33fjb0$1pg@werple.apana.org.au>
References: <32npov$hn7@convex.cc.uky.edu> <1994Aug17.025508.18806@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Where can I get these NCR drivers for nextstep?
Do they support the fast wire version of the PCI SCSI-2 card?
What makes buying the Mother board so important and the Bios?
How do I know I am buying the right hardware?
Nextstep does support multiple SCSI controllers. I could run 2 PCI
SCSI-2 fast wide controllers at the same time? yes?
Its for a Server.
James
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Raysound Mozart 16 seems to work with NSfIP!
Date: 24 Aug 1994 14:25:18 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <33fl8e$2qh@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
I didn't believe my ears when I just heard that the Raysound Mozart 16 MCD
soundcards seems to work flawlessly with the MS Windows Sound System
driver in NSfIP 3.2. I haven't yet tried recording, just playback, but
this worked without dropouts or loops even for the big "Copland Fanfare"
sound!
This was tested on an ISA/VL motherboard with an AHA 1542CF and miro 8s.
A Logitech Soundman showed the usual dropouts with the same hardware.
I should not leave out that the Mozart seems to be quite noisy and has in
fact no very good reputation for its sound quality, but it seems to work
with NSfIP, and this is another point ;-)
Gregor
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk (Phil Robinson)
Subject: Using a NeXT Colour printer with Windoze
Organization: Myorganisation
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 09:56:37 +0000
Message-ID: <777722197snz@unitec.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Can it be done? Is there a driver anywhere etc?
(Apologies if this one is an FAQ - I saw the question here a
couple of weeks ago, but it disappeared again before I saw an answer!)
Thanks
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Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk
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From: lk@SysCon.uu.se(Erlendur Karlsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer installation
Date: 24 Aug 1994 15:05:08 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <33fnj4$rcb@columba.udac.uu.se>
Keywords: network, laser printer, bootp/tftp
We are installing an HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer
in a mixed network with Nexts and Macintoshes.
The Macintosh connection is fine and the Nexts can print out on the
printer, but there are some printer variables that we would like
to set, to limit the access to the printer for example.
The documentation describes the main steps involved but does not
give enough detail for us to fully grasp the process.
The key is the BOOTP/TFTP facilities.
Typical network parameters need to set in the bootptab file,
while other parameteran are to be set in an NPI (network printer
interface) file.
If there is anybody out there that has already succeded with
this kind of setup we would greatly appreciate hearing from you.
Erlendur Karlsson
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From: ajee@scdt.intel.com (Alvin Jee )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Tandberg QIC drive..
Date: 24 Aug 1994 15:52:20 GMT
Organization: I'm not organized
Sender: ajee@cad768 (Alvin Jee )
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33fqbk$8fd@ornews.intel.com>
Hello!
Has anybody been able to get the Tandberg 4220 1/4" SCSI tape
drives to work with NS/FIP? When NS boots up, the SCSI probe
locates the drive and it's id, so I know the id's and termination
are ok. When it comes time to actually register the tape drive
(using st, I think), the system hangs for quite a while (~30 minutes)
while the system performs about 6 to 7 SCSI bus resets. A call to the
dealer support came up empty. Anybody know how to get these to work?
It would be real nice to get this to work. The drive is a 2GB QIC
drive for about the same price as a Conner 525MB drive..
Thanks!
--
Alvin Jee
alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: High Speed Serial Ports
Date: 24 Aug 1994 16:41:46 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33ft8a$3m3@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <uRsBRc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
In article <uRsBRc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian
Bainbridge) writes:
>
> I'm interested in any information that anyone can provide regarding
NextStep
> compatible serial cards for either ISA or EISA buses. In particular I
have
> Thanks
>
>
> ian #################
> @ #Ian Bainbridge #
> mindvox. #
Just to provide some internal lobbying clout for me, how much interest is
there in a fairly cheap (~$30.00) serial port driver or card/driver
combination that would enable you to run fast SLIPs, etc? Apparently the
serial driver will not be greatly improved for 3.3... Our black hardware
is dying, too, and there should be another solution.
Cheers,
Dan
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
From: gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu (Gary P. Wolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: INFO on NeXT DSP please!
Date: 23 Aug 1994 09:27:31 GMT
Organization: Boise State University
Message-ID: <33cfe3$9rp@euskadi.idbsu.edu>
I was recently looking in my NeXT Reference manual for info on
upgrading memory. By accident I came across the system specs
for my ColorStation and it mentioned that the DSP has 24KB of
static RAM and that it could be upgraded to 576KB of static
RAM using SRAM SIMMS. So where does the RAM go...I have looked
inside the computer and cannot find any SIMM looking slots
other than for MAIN RAM. Also what would be the need to
upgrade this...from a practical "real world" use as opposed to
being able to say "Yeah, well my DSP has 576KB of static RAM
and yours doesn't!" ? Where would one go to acquire this
mystic SIMM and at what speed does it need to be?
Another question is that of expanding the MAIN RAM. I understand
that I can use 1MB X 36 72 pin 70ns SIMMS these are the 4MB
variety. Currently I have 20MB of RAM in this configuration:
slots 0 and 1 have 8MB
slots 2 and 3 have 2MB
slots 4 and 5 have 2MB
slots 6 and 7 have 8MB
Does this mean that if I wish to upgrade to more memory with the
4MB SIMMs I have to buy a minimum of 2 to get ANY benefit out
of it? Like most clone motherboards where you have to fill an
entire bank with homologous SIMMs to get the benefit? Does it
then follow that I essentially have 4 banks of 2 slots each and
therefore must use the same size in each bank to get the benefit.
If this is so then if I had
slots 0 and 1 have 8MB
slots 2 and 3 have 8MB
slots 4 and 5 have 2MB
slots 6 and 7 have 8MB
I would have 26MB of RAM, yes?
I was also curious to know where to go for a catalog of available
software packages and or hardware with prices? I am relatively
new to the NeXT community...an Amiga being my previous platform
of choice and with an Amiga there was such a thing as a screen
mode whereupon the user could set certain things like display
/screen size and maximum number (including palette sharing) of
colors on the screen at a time, so one could then tailor the
speed of his/her display, giving the computer a faster 'feel'
to it if you will. I opted to get a NeXTstation Color and it
is noticeably slower than a friends MonoStation (both are non
turbo machines btw). Would it not be possible to change the
output of the computer to produce less colors and thus reduce
the display times. Wouldn't less colors = less time computer
needs to generate color DisplayPostscript? Is there a utility
that could change the number of bits of color the computer
would generate? Instead of running in 16bit full color all
the time I might decide that one day I wanted my machine to
do something faster than it usually does so I change the
display to a 4 bit color display. Also if one were to go
to the extreme and make it 2bit gray scale would a ColorStation
be significantly faster than a MonoStation because of the
1.5MB of VRAM on a ColorStation as opposed to a mere 256KB
of VRAM on a MonoStation? Is this possible or just a pipe
dream as it were? What would be or is involved (if such
a utility exists)? If one does exist could someone give
me the name and info on where to get it and how much
if anything it costs, please! FrameMaker is incredibly
slow as is....:-(
Thanks for any and all info,
Gary Wolfe
gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
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Extra Value Meal (TM) you can pick up the latest version of your
favorite Microsoft (TM) product will be the day that civilization is
about to collapse.
From: dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu (David A. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q]: Will Diamond Stealth 64 work with NS
Date: 24 Aug 1994 20:47:46 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33gbli$nht@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Keywords: Diamond, NeXTStep
Howdy everyone,
I just received a Micron P90PCI sysetm (Pentium at 90 MHz). I had tried
to configure it as close to the NeXTStep standard as possible. After I
unpacked it I found the machine had a Diamond Stealth 64 PCI video card,
can anyone tell me if this is compatible with NS and which drivers to use?
If it is not compatible could someone drop me a line and recommend the
best alternative?
I also have a BusLogic 946C Fast SCSI PCI adapter and from what I have
been told at BusLogic (and in their manual) it is compatible but I haven't
heard of anyone using it and I haven't seen it in the Nextanswers data.
Can anyone confirm if it is acceptable (or at least functional).
...thank's in advance,
david....
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: EISA vs. ISA SCSI Adapters
Date: 24 Aug 1994 15:15:24 -0600
Organization: Keflavik
Message-ID: <33gd9c$kl2@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
I'm putting together a home-brew NeXTSTEP machine. In specing out the
machine and I've found a PCI/ISA motherboard that I would like to use.
However, I was hoping to use an Adpatec 1740 EISA SCSI card. With only
PCI and ISA slots on the motherboard, that is no longer an option.
Do I give up that much by going with an Adaptec 1540 or some other
ISA-based SCSI card over the 1740? After all, the NeXTSTEP driver only
supports the 1740 in Standard (1540 emulation) mode. I've noticed that
some of the other EISA SCSI drivers only work when the card is set to a
non-32-bit mode as well.
So, are there any EISA SCSI cards that are going to give me a significant
performance increase over a simple 1540?
Yes, I could go with a PCI SCSI card, but (for personal reasons) I'd
rather not have to go to Talus for drivers (ala the NCR 53C810) and NeXT
probably isn't terribly close to releasing a driver for the Adaptec 2940.
I don't know of any other PCI SCSI options at this point.
Thanks in advance for advice,
Grettir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashpal Singh)
Subject: Anyone using Talus/NCR/SCSI on NS/I 3.1 ??
Message-ID: <Cv27yr.EyC@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (Usenet News Admin)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 22:04:03 GMT
Is anyone using the NCR PCI SCSI card with the Talus drivers under
NS/I 3.1? Any info on the subject greately appreciated.
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ?WANGTEK 525MB drive on NeXTstep/FIP 3.2
Date: 24 Aug 1994 22:50:10 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <33gir2$dq2@gamera.umd.edu>
Keywords: WANGTEK 525MB,QIC,NS/FIP,3.2
I have a WANGTEK QIC 525MB tape drive attached to a DPT2012 EISA SCSI
controller on a NS/FIP 3.2 system (along with two disk drives and a
CDROM). The disks are at SCSI IDs 0 and 1, the WANGTEK at ID 4, and
the CDROM at ID 6. The DPT diags see the tape drive just fine but NeXTstep
refuses to see it on bootup and once booted of course /dev/rst0 (and rxt0)
yields "no such device" on any kind of access...
I'd obviously like to use it to run backups, any ideas as to why it is not
being seen?
Thanks!
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From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: High Speed Serial Ports
Date: 24 Aug 1994 23:10:34 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33gk1a$hut@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <uRsBRc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Ian Bainbridge (ian@mindvox.phantom.com) wrote:
: I'm interested in any information that anyone can provide regarding NextStep
: compatible serial cards for either ISA or EISA buses. In particular I have
: looked at the Hayes ESP which seems like the kind of solution I'm looking for
: but it doesn't seem to work under Nextstep (big surprise). Are there any
: cards similar to this one, any cards with 16550 UARTS, or for that matter ANY
: CARDS AT ALL which provide a high speed serial port solution for 486 machines
: running NS?
: I have tried Mux, which helps a little but it still doesn't work right and I'm
: getting somewhat disgusted being stuck back in the same situation we were in
: about a year ago with the 3.1 serial drivers, and even if the software SHOULD
: work in theory, and CAN work (since it did with the old 3.1 patch), I am more
: than willing to just pay $60-$100 per machine, to get enhanced serial ports,
: and avoid another reprise of this headache which I'm too used to experiencing
: when running Nextstep.
I am suprised to hear that the Hayes ESP does not work under NeXTSTEP as
that is what I am using at 14400 to talk to this News group. I suppose you
mean it does not work in enhanced 1k buffer mode. Also, the Mux does not
just help a little, it absolutely makes the difference between working
just fine and loosing characters above 9600 baud. I have a serial mouse and
figuring out how to install the Mux driver for this (custom??) configuration
was a pain, but after the 3rd or 4th time of installing the NeXTSTEP OS after
crashes and hangs of the OS... installing the Mux driver is trivial
(the crashes and reinstallation are another sad tale altogether.)
What is so hard about a serial port driver
that the guys at NeXT cannot get it right?
FACT: the serial port driver
distributed in the 3.2 version of NeXTSTEP does not work reliably above 9600!
Why should I have to install some 3rd party Mux driver to have basic serial
ports? This worked in the early versions of MS-DOS for God's sake!
Sorry... I just lost it. I'm better now.
Dan dlogue@neosoft.com
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer installation
Date: 24 Aug 1994 23:19:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33gkid$aip@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <33fnj4$rcb@columba.udac.uu.se>
In article <33fnj4$rcb@columba.udac.uu.se> lk@SysCon.uu.se(Erlendur Karlsson) writes:
>We are installing an HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer
>in a mixed network with Nexts and Macintoshes.
>
>The Macintosh connection is fine and the Nexts can print out on the
>printer, but there are some printer variables that we would like
>to set, to limit the access to the printer for example.
>
>The key is the BOOTP/TFTP facilities.
>Typical network parameters need to set in the bootptab file,
>while other parameteran are to be set in an NPI (network printer
>interface) file.
We have a HP DeskJet 1200C/PS with JetDirect, and went though
some of the things.
bootpd on NS 3.2 is outdated, and would not work to set a lot of
parameters that you might want to set for JetDirect.
I used bootpd stuff just set the IP address for the printer.
Test page shows the Ethernet address of the interface, so
you just have to use that number just as you set up
NetInfo clients.
Then, you can just telnet to the standard telnet port (not 9100)
which allows you to set IP address, net mask, default gateway,
and syslog host address. (This may require newere JetDirect
MIO sold after May 1, 1994, specifically J255xA series card.
J27xxA series JetDirect is the older version.)
Other things like hosts allowed to access via AppSocket or LPR
interface, I think, can be set using level 2 PS commands
of a few lines. You can send these PS codes by opening
a telnet connection to port 9100 (i.e., telnet printerhost 9100)
and just pasting the PS code into Terminal.
These parameters are documented in Adobe's supplemental
PostScript documentation for each version of PS.
Look on the ftp server ftp.adobe.com a file like:
PS.Supp.2013.ps.Z which is suitable for your printer.
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From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next
Date: 24 Aug 1994 19:31:53 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <33g779$h4m@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <33e4tl$rpf@news.worldlink.com>
: > <Nathan Janette> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu wrote:
: > The correct entries are:
: > SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price
: > --------- -------- -----
: > 712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no
: CDROM)
: > 712/80i 84 79 not sold
: > 712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no
: CDROM)
: > Pentium/90 87 72 $ 5,000 (list,
: w/CDROM)
What about disk I/O, ethernet, installation time, graphics performance,
and crashes per week?
: > Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065
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From: emoy@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eva Moy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,fr.comp.sys.next
Subject: clueless people desperately need help!!
Date: 25 Aug 1994 01:40:42 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <33gsqq$dkd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I'm sorry to have to bother all of you, but I don't know where to turn
for help...
The Course Evaluation Guide at MIT publishes its book through a NeXT
machine, but none of us really know anything about NeXT machines.
Right now, we're at an impass because the machine won't boot up, not
even to the point where it asks for a username and password. We think
it might have crashed in the middle of an application, but we don't
know how or when.
This could be an incredibly easy thing to fix, or it could be
something disastrous. We just need to figure out what is wrong so
we'll know how much to panic.
Eva Moy
emoy@athena
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Laptops & NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <Aug.24.22.20.20.1994.6900@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 25 Aug 94 02:20:20 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi,
Ive got to get a laptop for runing NEXTSTEP and need to get some answer
to basic questions about laptops. I hope some one will be able to help.
1) What is the difference between a 486SL and SLC?
2) Are the 3.3volt chips all 'power consumption managable' or only the DX4/100?
3) Besides the Dell Lattitude, are there any other laptops that can last 4
hours with one battery and 8 hours with two?
4) Will NEXTSTEP run on AMD 486 clones? I know it wont run on CYRIX chips.
5) Can one put a NEXTSTEP laptop to sleep? I imagine booting up the machine
eats up a lot of power. If one had to use an NS laptop over the course of say
12 hours, and needed to use it on 6 different occasions, would it be better
to reboot 6 times (each time lasting 40 to 60 minutes) or just put the machine
to sleep?
Later, Thanks, John
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:33:25 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33gvtl$jgj@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <bchin.777698267@news.andi.org>
In article <bchin.777698267@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin) writes:
> HP systems. I do hesitate though, mainly because of HP's
> proprietary mentality (own SIMMs
There are no lack of 3rd party sources for HP-compatible
SIMMs, judging from a quick survey of my usual memory
vendors.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Message-ID: <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 03:27:19 GMT
In article <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com>,
James Gaines <p00378@psilink.com> wrote:
>Q: When is RISC not alwayd better than CISC?
>A: When the RISC is HP/PA and the CISC is Pentium/90.
>-----------------------------------------------------
>
>Performance (All values are approximate but EQUAL in rounding error)
>
> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2
> --------- -------- ----- -------------
>712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000
>712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000
>Pentium/90 87 72 $6000 $1200 (Net)
>
>The above configurations assume 525MB HD, 16MB RAM, 17" Monitor,
>2x CD-ROM.
Ok, lets try this:
Dell P90 XPS Tower $3020
32MB RAM
540MB IDE drive
Useless 1MB video
#9GXE64Pro 4MB $559
Sony CDU-561 $250
Intel Ethernet $110
Pro Audio sound card $100
Sony 17SE1 $1079
-----
TOTAL: $5118
Toss in the $995 NS/Dev kit and youre at $6113. This includes an extra
16MB of RAM and real 24-bit color, something that the proposed $10,200 712/60
seems to lack. For those of you saying to yourself "but I get an educational
discount!", make sure you get a lifetime of free service or you could end up
with a $4,000 boat anchor (perhaps you can reuse the $1,100 HP CD-ROM reader :-)
>I have not forgotten to consider graphics. However, only those
>genuinely needing 24-bit color need to pay up for it. Even NeXT has
>realized this with its' introduction of 8-bit color coming in NS
>v3.3.
Can the HP do 8-bit pseudo-color if one has to fall back to HP/UX, or does
the funky 24->8 bit hardware trash your video memory representation? It
seems like a high cost (ie one of a kind for a low volume box) for saving
a few meg of video ram, especially when you can get a PCI 4MB 64-bit video
accelerator for $559 on the street (oh yeah, no expansion in the workstation
world.. there is always EISA :-> For day to day X work even PCs with 32-bit
accelerators feel significantly faster than our 715/33 does...
>NeXT has made a tremendous dent into the financial apps market.
>Although high end graphics are great, but do we really need 24-bit or
>true color (as opposed to 8 or 16 bit color).
>
>Therefore, for most of us developing applications, are we willing to
>pay up $5000 per workstation for graphics?
>
>The software is far more expensive (NS/PA). If someone knows how to
>get User & Dvlpr CDs for NS/PA as cheaply as we originally got NS/FIP
>($1000), please advise.
>
>If I am missing something, please correct me. Thanks in advance.
High cost, high maintenance cost, low volume, oddball video, and no visible
fanfare or long term commitment (what was that about Talingent being HP's
object standard?)
Workstations in general are for applications requiring high CPU speed and
virtually no IO devices. If youre simulating chips this is important. If
youre an end user in the financial community its not important. The big
question is: who are the customers of your application and what do they need?
>p00378@psilink.com
-Steve
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Hardware support
Date: 25 Aug 1994 03:41:17 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <33h3st$dk7@galaxy.ucr.edu>
A friend of mine has said that Bell Atlantic will be
supporting NeXT cubes & such fro around the next 5 yrs. Is this
true, and if so, how can I contact them?
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/ thoughts. All the rest are details." -Albert Einstein /
/ /
/ All flames to dev/null /
/ /
/ 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu /
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From: Gary Scott <111111.353@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA and NS 3.2
Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:01:16 GMT
Organization: CompuServe
Message-ID: <33h52c$2v8$1@mhadf.inhouse.compuserve.com>
Does anyone know of any PCMCIA drivers available for NSFIP 3.2? I wou
to run NS on my notebook but need these drivers. I understand that th
available in 3.3 but I would like to install now.
Thanks.
Gary Scott
111111.353@compuserve.com
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NCR PCI SCSI Card Drivers For NS/FIP
Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:49:32 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <33h7ss$afa@news.worldlink.com>
Does anyone know where I can find the drivers for:
NCR PCI SCSI Card on NS/FIP?
Thanks in advance.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: High Speed Serial Ports
Date: 25 Aug 1994 05:46:14 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33hb76$c6b@news.bu.edu>
References: <uRsBRc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <33ft8a$3m3@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Dan Kramer (dan@talus.com) wrote:
: In article <uRsBRc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian
: Bainbridge) writes:
: >
: > I'm interested in any information that anyone can provide regarding
: NextStep
: > compatible serial cards for either ISA or EISA buses. In particular I
: have
: > Thanks
: Just to provide some internal lobbying clout for me, how much interest is
: there in a fairly cheap (~$30.00) serial port driver or card/driver
: combination that would enable you to run fast SLIPs, etc? Apparently the
: serial driver will not be greatly improved for 3.3... Our black hardware
: is dying, too, and there should be another solution.
From what I can tell from anybody who owns a Next at home which is not
connected to the local ethernet, a LOT of interest! Nextstep's serial
port support is incredibly awful and any reasonably priced alternative
($30-$90 or so is what I'd consider reasonable), would probably sell
pretty well!
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ISA SCSI Adapters
Date: 25 Aug 1994 05:50:26 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <33hbf2$c6b@news.bu.edu>
References: <33gd9c$kl2@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
Grettir Asmundarson (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote:
: some of the other EISA SCSI drivers only work when the card is set to a
: non-32-bit mode as well.
: So, are there any EISA SCSI cards that are going to give me a significant
: performance increase over a simple 1540?
From my experience there is a considerable speed sdifference between the
Adaptec 1540x series, and the speed of the DPT 2022 EISA cards.
I don't know about other cards, most of which seem to operate in modes that
are emulating the limited feature-sets of cheaper/older ISA based cards, but
the DPT EISA cards make a very noticible performance increase.
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ISA SCSI Adapters
Date: 25 Aug 94 07:46:39 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.777800799@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <33gd9c$kl2@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <33hbf2$c6b@news.bu.edu>
bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold) writes:
>From my experience there is a considerable speed sdifference between the
>Adaptec 1540x series, and the speed of the DPT 2022 EISA cards.
That's correct. I noticed a difference by factor 2.
For your PCI/ISA board, I'd really suggest the NCR solution. It doesn't
write too fast, but the read performance is great.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ?WANGTEK 525MB drive on NeXTstep/FIP 3.2
Date: 25 Aug 94 07:48:43 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.777800923@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <33gir2$dq2@gamera.umd.edu>
Keywords: WANGTEK 525MB,QIC,NS/FIP,3.2
mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
>I have a WANGTEK QIC 525MB tape drive attached to a DPT2012 EISA SCSI
>controller on a NS/FIP 3.2 system (along with two disk drives and a
>CDROM). The disks are at SCSI IDs 0 and 1, the WANGTEK at ID 4, and
>the CDROM at ID 6. The DPT diags see the tape drive just fine but NeXTstep
>refuses to see it on bootup and once booted of course /dev/rst0 (and rxt0)
>yields "no such device" on any kind of access...
You have to install the tape driver with Configure.app (Icon 'Other Drivers').
And then get the scsitools by ftp and use mtset for setting the device to
fixed block size mode.
Regards,
Markus.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Message-ID: <bchin.777788922@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <bchin.777698267@news.andi.org> <33gvtl$jgj@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 04:28:42 GMT
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <bchin.777698267@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
>Chin) writes:
>> HP systems. I do hesitate though, mainly because of HP's
>> proprietary mentality (own SIMMs
>There are no lack of 3rd party sources for HP-compatible
>SIMMs, judging from a quick survey of my usual memory
>vendors.
That's good to hear. However, it doesn't change the fact
that there is a "standard" 72 pin interleaved SIMM type
used in many PC & workstations. Between machines that use this
SIMM type, it is quite easy to exchange memory; prices also
tend to be the lowest because of the high competition.
Is there a technical reason (performance) for HP to use
it's own SIMM type? If so, and it's readily available, then
terrific. If not, I implore HP to make it easier on their
customers... use the standard SIMM type.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Message-ID: <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 04:43:09 GMT
seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes:
>Dell P90 XPS Tower $3020
> 32MB RAM
> 540MB IDE drive
> Useless 1MB video
>#9GXE64Pro 4MB $559
>Sony CDU-561 $250
>Intel Ethernet $110
>Pro Audio sound card $100
>Sony 17SE1 $1079
> -----
>TOTAL: $5118
Surely you're not saying that an IDE disk I/O subsystem, the Intel
EtherExpress, and the Pro Audio sound card are even close to
equivalent to what's in the 712's? Let's see... replacing with
PCI SCSI, PCI networking and a halfway decent sound card will
boost the price by around $500. Then, you've got to get that
bunch of equipment to work... and work consistently.
It's partially on NeXT's shoulders (enhanced PCI support).
Let's see... this is single unit commercial pricing from a popular
NEXTSTEP dealer:
HP 712/60 bare $2000
17" Sony monitor + VRAM upgrade $1320
Keyboard & HP-UX (req) $ 175
floppy drive $ 95
third party memory, 32mb $1450
third party 500mb SCSI HD $ 525
-----
$5565
(I didn't include a CD-ROM drive, I'm not sure if the NEC is an
adequate replacement to the HP, so I left it out)
The 712/80 does add around $1800 to the price for a total of ~$7350.
Not exactly $7k and $11k, but not as cheap as the Dell either.
I don't know what educational pricing is, but it's probably less
than this. Given the lack of benchmarks and from my own observations
of the different machines, I'd say that the 712/60 is slightly
slower than the 90mhz Pentium and the 712/80 is slightly faster.
However, there's much more to buying a machine than straight
price and performance. There's reliability, stability, customer
service, service options, trust, and overall satisfaction.
I think the 90mhz Pentium's market is different than the
HP 712's market in subtle ways. If you prefer overall balanced
performance and reliability in a drop in package, then the
HP is a good bet. If you prefer to heavily customize the system,
need to run DOS/Windows apps or want to squeeze the most integer
performance/$$, and are willing to live with the possible stability
side affects, then the Pentium is right up your alley. Just wait
when we have SPARC and Alpha options to choose from too. :-)
>High cost, high maintenance cost, low volume, oddball video, and no visible
>fanfare or long term commitment (what was that about Talingent being HP's
>object standard?)
I'm pretty sure that HP will continue to make workstations for some
time to come, and I'm pretty sure that HP will do lots of things to
sell their workstations.
>Workstations in general are for applications requiring high CPU speed and
>virtually no IO devices. If youre simulating chips this is important. If
>youre an end user in the financial community its not important.
I disagree here. Workstation have historically possessed high speed
graphics, sufficient memory, high speed networking, and high speed
disk I/O in order to accomplish many diverse engineering and mission
critical tasks. It's the Intel PC world that seems to have unbalanced
systems.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 07:58:24 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <33hiv0$d2r@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com>
In article <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes:
[using Nathan's corrected entries]
>> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2
>> --------- -------- ----- -------------
> 712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
> 712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
>>The above configurations assume 525MB HD, 16MB RAM, 17" Monitor.
>
>Ok, lets try this:
>
>Dell P90 XPS Tower $3020, 32MB RAM, 540MB IDE drive, Useless 1MB video
>#9GXE64Pro 4MB $559
>Sony CDU-561 $250
>Intel Ethernet $110
>Pro Audio sound card $100
>Sony 17SE1 $1079
> -----
>TOTAL: $5118
I find it odd that people are comparing highly optimized PC prices with
HP list prices, this is just plain ridiculous. No one in their right mind
buys an entire system from HP at list price.
You can save $700 by buying a stock Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM instead of HP's
repackaged 3401.
You can buy a 15" HP monitor, plus a $1100 17" 1280x1024 third party
monitor, and still have $400 to spare from the HP list price of 17"
1280x1024.
You can buy the 250 meg HP disk option, and buy a third party 1gig
drive for $800, save $800 over the 1 gig option, plus get another 200
megs of disk space.
Just to name a few.
Most people have the option of some sort of discount on top of that,
whether it's a min. of 10% from a VAR, or more for .edu, or even more
if you're a developer.
The PC prices being posted here are rock bottom, and the systems may
be a dubious combination for NEXTSTEP, yet people compare them to a
list priced integrated workstation from a reputable and recognized
performance leader. Ugh!
>Toss in the $995 NS/Dev kit and youre at $6113.
I also find it odd that people are comparing the low ball NS/I price
with the max list price of NS/HP, this is again, ridiculous. You can
get an NS/HP dev. kit for $1000, I don't think the same can be said
for NS/I anymore.
>This includes an extra
>16MB of RAM and real 24-bit color, something that the proposed $10,200 712/60
>seems to lack.
The 712's 24-bit virtual color mode is as close to 24-bit for all but
serious graphics work. I think the majority of NEXTSTEP users would
be quite pleased with it. Until you see the 712 running NEXTSTEP with
color recovery, you can't even guess what it looks like.
>Can the HP do 8-bit pseudo-color if one has to fall back to HP/UX, or does
>the funky 24->8 bit hardware trash your video memory representation?
Yes, No. NEXTSTEP offers 8-bit gray, 24-bit color recovery, and 8-bit
color modes on the HP. HP-UX offers 8-bit p-color, along with a color
recovery model and maybe some others.
Besides, who in their right mind buys a NEXTSTEP machine with the intent
to fall back on on HP-UX? ack!
>High cost, high maintenance cost, low volume, oddball video, and no visible
>fanfare or long term commitment (what was that about Talingent being HP's
>object standard?)
The only questionable component in the entire system is the motherboard,
everything else is standard and could be used with another machine. If
both our CPU boxes exploded in a year, we'd both have the same options
for replacement.
NeXT still supports NEXTSTEP for NeXT hardware, what makes you question
whether they will support it for HP hardware, EVEN IF, there was some
bizarre fallout between NeXT and HP.
In the meantime this is just pure FUD food.
>Workstations in general are for applications requiring high CPU speed and
>virtually no IO devices. If youre simulating chips this is important. If
>youre an end user in the financial community its not important. The big
>question is: who are the customers of your application and what do they need?
So, a PC is for someone who does not need high CPU speed and needs a
plethora of slow IO devices?
If you bought NeXT hardware, and enjoy a high performance integrated
NEXTSTEP system which works out of the box, I would recommend looking
at the HP option.
I would also recommend that if you are going to compare PC prices
with 712 prices, you give them both a fair shop around.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I WASTED SO MUCH FRIGGIN' TIME ON THIS FOLLOWUP, ARGGG,
--
|: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :|
|: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Hardware support
Date: 25 Aug 1994 07:49:05 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33hidh$h14@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <33h3st$dk7@galaxy.ucr.edu>
In article <33h3st$dk7@galaxy.ucr.edu> 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo
Bonzai) writes:
> A friend of mine has said that Bell Atlantic will be
> supporting NeXT cubes & such fro around the next 5 yrs. Is this
> true, and if so, how can I contact them?
Yeah, they'll be supporting them all right. Have a problem with your
optical drive? Bell Atlantic won't service it. But they will gladly sell
you a replacement, for a mere $2000. With support like that, who needs to
ever worry about how long they'll be at it?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem booting with Talus NCR PCI SCSI drivers
Date: 24 Aug 1994 21:46:37 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <33gbjd$183@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <1994Aug23.150024.29234@il.us.swissbank.com> <next2.777673702@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>For me, the NCR driver does not work at all (ASUS NCR with Intel Plato P90
>board, AMI BIOS 1.00.06). All I get is "NCR timeout", and it doesn't matter
>if the disk is a IBM 0664 or a Fujitsu 2624.
*Stop!* *Rewind*
Now it works!! *uff*
The NCR card was jumpered to the wrong PCI interrupt. I got caught in the
trap for PCI newbies ;-)
--
!!! New mail address !!! mow@marsu.s.bawue.de !!! New mail address !!!
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NCR PCI SCSI Card Drivers For NS/FIP
Date: 25 Aug 1994 13:01:27 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <33i4n7$fb1@news.worldlink.com>
Does anyone know where I can find the drivers for:
NCR PCI SCSI Card on NS/FIP?
Thanks in advance.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 10:25:22 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next: 25-Aug-94 Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA by
Stephen E Halpin@world.s
> >I have not forgotten to consider graphics. However, only those
> >genuinely needing 24-bit color need to pay up for it. Even NeXT has
> >realized this with its' introduction of 8-bit color coming in NS
> >v3.3.
>
> Can the HP do 8-bit pseudo-color if one has to fall back to HP/UX, or does
> the funky 24->8 bit hardware trash your video memory representation?
Think about it!
Obviously the 8-bit Color Recovery works under HP/UX. In fact, it seems
like HP provides better support for drawing with it under X then you'll
get under NEXTSTEP. Take a look at the following WWW URL:
http://www.hp.com/mhm/WhitePapers/Artist/Artist.html
> It seems like a high cost (ie one of a kind for a low volume box) for
> saving a few meg of video ram, especially when you can get a PCI 4MB 64-bit
> video accelerator for $559 on the street (oh yeah, no expansion in the
> workstation world.. there is always EISA :-> For day to day X work even
> PCs with 32-bit accelerators feel significantly faster than our 715/33
> does...
Well, the 715/33 doesn't have Color Recovery, and is from the older line
of HP workstations as well. Try comparing a 712/80 to a 386 with a 512k
VGA video card and you'll get the opposite result (although both
comparisons are pretty meaningless).
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...."
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 14:08:45 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com>
> I find it odd that people are comparing highly optimized PC prices with
> HP list prices, this is just plain ridiculous. No one in their right mind
> buys an entire system from HP at list price.
> You can save $700 by buying a stock Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM instead of HP's
> repackaged 3401.
> You can buy a 15" HP monitor, plus a $1100 17" 1280x1024 third party
> monitor, and still have $400 to spare from the HP list price of 17"
> 1280x1024.
> You can buy the 250 meg HP disk option, and buy a third party 1gig
> drive for $800, save $800 over the 1 gig option, plus get another 200
> megs of disk space.
> Just to name a few.
> Most people have the option of some sort of discount on top of that,
> whether it's a min. of 10% from a VAR, or more for .edu, or even more
> if you're a developer.
> The PC prices being posted here are rock bottom, and the systems may
> be a dubious combination for NEXTSTEP, yet people compare them to a
> list priced integrated workstation from a reputable and recognized
> performance leader. Ugh!
The HP prices are not list. They are per an HP dealers prices. I have
attached their price sheet below. If they are not competitive, I want ALL HP
dealers to know and I also want your source for better HP prices.
Assuming the 712/60 to cost around $5k, with a base Cell spread of $3.5k, I
do not ever see the 712/80 falling below $8.5k within the $7-$11k range.
Therefore, the only one worth having (712/80) costs at least $3k more than a
Pentium 90. With the imminent introduction of the Pentium 100, Pent90 prices
will fall even further, thus increasing its' price/performance ratio relative
to the 712 series. I am not spending other people's money. We are spending
our own. So even $2k spread out over ten machines is a lot of money to us.
Given a mixed-use network, how much faster can the I/O be when you consider
real throughput due to network limitations and the advent of PCI SCSI cards.
Does the 712 still have an I/O advantage?
For the prices below, contact HP Dealer OSD: Igor Klimenko
<igor@dusya.osd.com>
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Part Number Description OSD Price
A4024A 712/60 base Cell 2,331.00
A4028A 712/80 base Cell 5,822.10
A1196A 15" 1024x768 Monitor 562.50
A2287A 17" 1024x768 Monitor 1,620.00
A4-32A 15" Multi-Sync Monitor 1,620.00
A2094A 19" 1280x1024 Monitor 3,060.00
A4025A High res. graphics kit (VRAM) 360.00
A2577A 8MB RAM/2x4 MB RAM boards 504.00
A2578A 16MB RAM/2x8 MB RAM boards 1,152.00
A2829A 32MB RAM/2x16 MB RAM boards 2,016.00
A2827A 64MB RAM/2x32 MB RAM boards 4,032.00
A4065 260MB Internal disk drive 450.00
A4066A 525MB Internal disk drive 990.00
A4067A 1GB Internal disk drive 1,440.00
A4068A 3,5" floppy disk drive 112.50
A4030A Localization kit(mouse included) 94.50
A4013A Second serial card 265.50
A2655A CD ROM Drive 985.50
NEXTSTEP Software
Nextstep 3.2 (User) 650.00
Nextstep 3.2 (Developer) 2,595.00
Third Party Parts
2217 Micropolis 1.75GB SCSI-2,3.5",10MS,Int 1,265.00
2210 Micropolis 1.05GB SCSI-2,3.5",10MS,Int 955.00
2205 Micropolis 584 MB SCSI-2,3.5",10MS,Int 795.00
127702 Seagate 457 MB SCSI-2,3.5",12MS,Int 490.00
127816 Seagate 545MB SCSI-2,3.5",12MS,Int 545.00
239724 Sony Trinitron 20", 1280x1024 2,151.00
239703 Sony Trinitron 17", 1280x1024 1,300.00
231910 Viewsonic 17" Multi,1600x1280 @60HZ 1,090.00
DR9717/16 Memory 16 Mb Set 750.00
DR9717/32 Memory 32 Mb Set 1,620.00
> >Toss in the $995 NS/Dev kit and youre at $6113.
> I also find it odd that people are comparing the low ball NS/I price
> with the max list price of NS/HP, this is again, ridiculous. You can
> get an NS/HP dev. kit for $1000, I don't think the same can be said
> for NS/I anymore.
I disagree. I personally am offering a brand new, unopened NS/FIP User &
Dvlp CDs for $1050.00. And have been for a while. This implies that all
those who want to find NS/FIP below $1100 can do so.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
From: ggerard@CS.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NXBench numbers for HPs?
Date: 25 Aug 1994 15:48:46 GMT
Organization: Trinity University
Message-ID: <33iegv$q41@tusol.cs.trinity.edu>
Now that NSHP has been officially released, what are the numbers?
712/60 ---- ????
712/80 ---- ????
thanks,
greg
From: rhess@adoc.xerox.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: anyone seen AST's new Premmia GX "workstation"?...
Date: 25 Aug 94 09:20:22
Organization: Xerox AODS, Palo Alto, California.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RHESS.94Aug25092022@adoc.xerox.COM>
Does anyone know if AST's new "workstations", Premmia GX & Premmia MX, will
run NeXTSTEP? The 2-page ad in the September issue of PC/Computing say's "All
the newest 32-bit operating systems are supported". Here's the "spec" info
from the ad;
Premmia GX
+---------------------------------------------------------------
Pentium 90 & 100 Mhz, dual processor capable, OverDrive Ready.
PCI & EISA.
256Kb Synchronous Burst Mode cache.
64-bit PCI local bus graphics card.
2Mb VRAM upgradable to 4Mb.
Supports up to 1280x1024x16.7 million colors non-interlaced.
Integrated PCI local bus FastSCSI-2 controller.
Integrated Ethernet.
Type III PCMCIA capability.
Plug-n-play capable.
DMI support.
Energy managed.
Premmia MX
+---------------------------------------------------------------
Pentium 60 Mhz, IntelDX4/100 and 486/66, OverDrive Ready.
PCI and ISA.
Pentium models: 256Kb cache.
486 models: 256kb cache on hard drive models,
64Kb or 256Kb options on base models.
64-bit PCI local bus graphics card.
2Mb VRAM upgradable to 4Mb.
Supports up to 1280x1024x16.7 million colors non-interlaced.
Type III PCMCIA capability.
Plug-n-play capable.
DMI support.
Energy Star.
The "official" answer from 1-800-876-4AST is "this system's very new and it
hasn't been certified for NeXTSTEP yet". Big deal, most of the systems people
are using for NeXTSTEP aren't "certified", but they can still run NeXTSTEP.
Does anyone have any info on these systems beyond the "glossy" stuff you find
in the ad's. Thanks,
Dick...
+-------------------------------------------------------------[ Richard Hess ]
phone: 415.813.7330
email: rhess@adoc.xerox.com
From: peter@piassun3.joanneum.ac.at (Peter Resele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Plato experiences?
Date: 25 Aug 1994 17:35:25 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <33ikot$5r7@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
Who has experiences (positive and negative) with the Intel Plato motherboard
(Pentium PCI) and NeXTstep? Some earlier messages indicated problems,
which later seemed to be resolved. Anybody running the board successfully?
Configuration (SCSI card, graphics card)?
Thanks a lot,
Peter
P.S.: The reason I'm asking is that systems based on these boards are offered
at reasonable prices in Austria/Europe.
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 18:14:18 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33in1qINNj6h@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <33demo$efr@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <33demo$efr@news.ycc.yale.edu>, nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
|> In article <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
|> writes:
|>
|> > SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price NeXTstep v3.2
|> > --------- -------- ----- -------------
|> > 712/60 60 79 $7200 $3000
|> > 712/80 84 79 $11000 $3000
|> ^^^
|> These are incorrect numbers. That entry should be the 712/80i, which
|> was fp impaired, and didn't last long as a product.
Not only did it not last long, but all existing 712/80i boxes were upgraded
to 712/80s. If you see anybody with an 80i, tell them to call customer
service.
|> The correct entries are:
|>
|> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price
|> --------- -------- -----
|> 712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
|> 712/80i 84 79 not sold
|> 712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
Add a few hundred for an external SCSI CD-ROM...
|> You should be able to find an HP VAR/VAD that can offer at least
|> 10% off the list prices. I've seen one such dealer advertise in
|> this group.
|>
|> You should be able to realize major savings by purchasing base
|> systems from an HP VAR/VAD, and adding 3rd party RAM, a larger
|> hard disk drive, perhaps a larger monitor, etc. 3rd party prices
|> for hard disk drives have fallen through the floor.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mtaylor@alias.com (Michael Taylor)
Subject: Re: High Speed Serial Ports
Message-ID: <1994Aug25.173613.2731@alias.com>
Keywords:
Sender: news@alias.com (News Owner)
Organization: Alias Research Inc., Toronto ON Canada
References: <uRsBRc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <33ft8a$3m3@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 17:36:13 GMT
I would like to see this. I have installed Mux with not much improvement,
and I have installed a new 16550 serial card with only a slight
improvement.
With a Supra 14.4, Mux, a Lava 16550 card, I still get frequent errors.
I am pretty sure that I have a cable with the RTS/CTS line.
I cannot, of course, run slip with this setup.
I would be willing to pay around $30 for a working solution.
--
Mike Taylor I would rather be alive in a box than dead in
mtaylor@alias.com a box, because if you are alive in a box you
NeXTmail Welcome can say `At least I'm not dead'
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 18:23:43 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <33injf$m7m@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org>
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes:
>Let's see... this is single unit commercial pricing from a popular
>NEXTSTEP dealer:
>HP 712/60 bare $2000
>17" Sony monitor + VRAM upgrade $1320
>Keyboard & HP-UX (req) $ 175
>floppy drive $ 95
>third party memory, 32mb $1450
>third party 500mb SCSI HD $ 525
> -----
> $5565
This is almost as good as the edu price! (I think I priced the
same config, but lowest 17" video, and RAM in the form of 2 x 16MB,
for $5252, educational pricing).
Who is this "popular NEXTSTEP dealer"?
And how does one get HP to sell a bare 712/60? The
price lists I've seen here all *require* one to purchase
at least a minimum RAM/disk/monitor package. This takes
away some of the incentive for going third party for those
items, and cranks up the price.
Our *edu* price for two 16 MB SIMMs is $1872, and for the
525 MB SCSI II drive, $715.
David Finton
From: zone@panix.com (Alex Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 15:01:50 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com>
References: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu>
This is getting to be a religious battle. Lets stop and say that neither side
is going to convince the other that their stuff is better.
The HP 712/60 is slightly slower then a pentium for comparable prices.
The HP 712/80 is slightly faster then a pentium for more money.
The pentium can be configured in more ways to be exactly what you want (within
design limits), but you do have to configure them.
HP has less options, but it is intergrated well, and I know that the build is
sturdy throughout their diverse lines of production. They also have great
support.
If I am building my own machine on a budget, I'll get a pentium. If I am
getting many machines for a company, I'll get a HP, and justify it with a
man-hour projection for installation, configuring, and a year of hard ware
support. (If it was mine, I'd tweak it happily myself.)
It's no use in arguing, no one will be convinced, lets just be happy that we
all use some kind of NeXT computer and leave it at that.
Alex
zone@panix.com
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: anyone seen AST's new Premmia GX "workstation"?...
Date: 25 Aug 1994 14:07:54 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <33iq6a$nlv@crchh921.bnr.ca>
References: <RHESS.94Aug25092022@adoc.xerox.com>
In article <RHESS.94Aug25092022@adoc.xerox.com>,
Richard L. Hess <rhess@adoc.xerox.COM> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if AST's new "workstations", Premmia GX & Premmia MX, will
>run NeXTSTEP? The 2-page ad in the September issue of PC/Computing say's "All
>the newest 32-bit operating systems are supported". Here's the "spec" info
>from the ad;
>
> The "official" answer from 1-800-876-4AST is "this system's very new and it
>hasn't been certified for NeXTSTEP yet".
I called and talked to an AST representative about 2 weeks ago when
I first saw the add. She told me that they had several people doing
testing with NeXTSTEP on the Premmia GX and MX. She said that it
would be "at least" one month before they would know if NeXTSTEP will
be supported. She said that it would probably be much longer, though.
=============================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR.
====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com (Phil Zumsteg)
Subject: Re: NCR PCI SCSI Card Drivers For NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1994Aug25.184153.9248@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: Honeywell/HBC
References: <33h7ss$afa@news.worldlink.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 18:41:53 GMT
In article <33h7ss$afa@news.worldlink.com>, "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> says:
>
>Does anyone know where I can find the drivers for:
>
>NCR PCI SCSI Card on NS/FIP?
Contact Dan Kramer at Talus (Houston, TX) (dan@talus.com).
>
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Peace,
>
>James
>p00378@psilink.com
From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Audiotrix and NS
Date: 25 Aug 1994 20:12:09 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <33itup$rvp@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
I want to buy an Audiotrix Pro. I want to use it in a DEC-PC with the
Adaptec 1740. Will it work? Which hard- & software settings?
My major use is to do MIDI in/output plus concurrent sound output.
Is the original NS MIDI driver working on Intel at all? Does it support
these cards, or other MIDI interfaces that connect to the serial port?
Or is there an extra MIDI driver somewhere on a server, or
do I have to get the Alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel?
Is it possible to play more than one sound in realtime -
realtime mixing - or just one soundfile at a time? (No use of the
possible 24 PCM voices under NS?)
Something known about the Audiotrix effects daughter board? I doubt,
that there is support from within the MSS driver, so there won't be any
use in purchasing it, as long it is solely used under NS. Right?
Currently I am trying to get a SoundGalaxy Pro16 to run. With the
jumper setting "EEPROM config" it does not boot (hanging on
Adaptec1740 init), with jumper set to "Software config" it does not
work and the parallel port cannot be used, though DMA, Port, and IRQ
do not conflict. Anybody an idea?
Thanks for answers,
--
-------------------------------------------------------
Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MPU-401 drivers
Date: 25 Aug 1994 20:11:37 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <33ittp$rvp@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Where can I get a NSFIP driver for a MPU-401 compatible?
I want to use it with an AudiotrixPro.
What does the alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel currently
support? Soundboard's? Which standard?
--
.
-------------------------------------------------------
Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Message-ID: <Cv3zKv.LF9@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 20:58:06 GMT
In article <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org>,
Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> wrote:
>seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes:
>
>>Dell P90 XPS Tower $3020
>> 32MB RAM
>> 540MB IDE drive
>> Useless 1MB video
>>#9GXE64Pro 4MB $559
>>Sony CDU-561 $250
>>Intel Ethernet $110
>>Pro Audio sound card $100
>>Sony 17SE1 $1079
>> -----
>>TOTAL: $5118
>
>Surely you're not saying that an IDE disk I/O subsystem, the Intel
>EtherExpress, and the Pro Audio sound card are even close to
>equivalent to what's in the 712's? Let's see... replacing with
>PCI SCSI, PCI networking and a halfway decent sound card will
>boost the price by around $500. Then, you've got to get that
>bunch of equipment to work... and work consistently.
>It's partially on NeXT's shoulders (enhanced PCI support).
It depends on what you mean by equivalent. Most of what I do
is CPU bound, so I consider the 712/60 to be a weak alternative to
a well designed P90 system. A database user would see things very
differently. As for Ethernet, Ive monitored nets with 100s of
X terminals, 10s of hosts and 10s of Infoservers, and the
wire bandwidth is rarely saturated. Any data Ive used thats time
critical would be kept on the local disk, as even IDE can
waste the fastest Ethernet interfaces. I use NeXT sound mostly
for voice annotations, where the PAS is quite acceptable.
Finally, I should in theory be able to add two SCSI cards at
some point down the line if I want, which again is not an option
on the HP.
>Let's see... this is single unit commercial pricing from a popular
>NEXTSTEP dealer:
>HP 712/60 bare $2000
>17" Sony monitor + VRAM upgrade $1320
>Keyboard & HP-UX (req) $ 175
>floppy drive $ 95
>third party memory, 32mb $1450
>third party 500mb SCSI HD $ 525
> -----
> $5565
>
>(I didn't include a CD-ROM drive, I'm not sure if the NEC is an
>adequate replacement to the HP, so I left it out)
>
>The 712/80 does add around $1800 to the price for a total of ~$7350.
>Not exactly $7k and $11k, but not as cheap as the Dell either.
>I don't know what educational pricing is, but it's probably less
>than this. Given the lack of benchmarks and from my own observations
>of the different machines, I'd say that the 712/60 is slightly
>slower than the 90mhz Pentium and the 712/80 is slightly faster.
>
>However, there's much more to buying a machine than straight
>price and performance. There's reliability, stability, customer
>service, service options, trust, and overall satisfaction.
Excellent points.
O
>I think the 90mhz Pentium's market is different than the
>HP 712's market in subtle ways. If you prefer overall balanced
>performance and reliability in a drop in package, then the
>HP is a good bet. If you prefer to heavily customize the system,
>need to run DOS/Windows apps or want to squeeze the most integer
>performance/$$, and are willing to live with the possible stability
>side affects, then the Pentium is right up your alley. Just wait
>when we have SPARC and Alpha options to choose from too. :-)
Also excellent points. To address Chris Lloyds post, some people
DO buy whole systems from HP. For the extra money you do get full
HP service and support, which is critical when youre dropping 1000
systems in a site, which is a good bonus in country and an awesome
bonus when you install overseas. As it should be clear from the
theme of my posts, I deal with small quantity.
>>High cost, high maintenance cost, low volume, oddball video, and no visible
>>fanfare or long term commitment (what was that about Talingent being HP's
>>object standard?)
>
>I'm pretty sure that HP will continue to make workstations for some
>time to come, and I'm pretty sure that HP will do lots of things to
>sell their workstations.
Hm.. I think I didnt word that clearly enough. I think the 712 series isnt
a great buy, and Im no fan of any of the other $3000 workstations out there
either. It seems they end up in places where an X terminal will do, like on
a managers desk. A 735/125 on the other hand.... My question of commitment
had more to do with the conflict between NeXTstep and Talingent. As others
have pointed out, even if HP backs out, NeXT can still support PA-RISC.
The question is, is it worth betting the farm on, and right now Id like
a little more reassurance that NS/PA will see a lot of attention. Right
now NS/PA is in its infancy, and OpenStep is the latest ACE consortium.
NS/FIP has already gone through an iteration, with another one to arrive
soon, and it seems stable enough for the tasks Ive thrown at it. Ive got
something to point to when management asks to see what it does. I think
everyone here wants to see X/MOTIF replaced my OpenStep, but it wont happen
for quite a while, if at all...
>>Workstations in general are for applications requiring high CPU speed ad
>>virtually no IO devices. If youre simulating chips this is important. If
>>youre an end user in the financial community its not important.
>
>I disagree here. Workstation have historically possessed high speed
>graphics, sufficient memory, high speed networking, and high speed
>disk I/O in order to accomplish many diverse engineering and mission
>critical tasks. It's the Intel PC world that seems to have unbalanced
>systems.
Ironically X terminals have offered higher graphics performance than
some workstations made by the same manufacturers :-> Here I was refering
more to things like A/D cards and DSP cards that I can pop in a PC for
tasks Im likely to do. PCs have 64-bit graphics accelerators, 1600x1200
video support, multiple SCSI bus support, FDDI, ISDN, etc.. Upgrades to
these IO devices are a card and a driver away, not a whole new system.
Heck, Micronet is advertising a 14MB/sec disk array for the Mac.. How
will you add that to the 712s?
>
>--
>Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
As I ended my last message, who are the customers of your application
and what do they need? For many of my tasks, PCs are sufficient and
nothing more. The original poster seemed to need a one off box to
run IB on, and for that the Intel box will do just fine, and save you
some money to boot. If I were a heavy DB user looking for more than
CPU performance, Id be looking far higher up the HP line than the 712.
-Steve
From: sayeap@vitalstatistix.mis.commerce.ubc.ca (Soon Aun Yeap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Printer to PC
Date: 25 Aug 1994 21:06:34 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <33j14q$crd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi ... can anyone tell me if it is possible to hook up a NeXT printer to a
PC. I am experimenting with a Toshiba notebook through the serial port
using a null-modem cable but without any success so far. Someone mentioned
several posts back that a Next printer will only work with a NeXT machine.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated :-)
soon-aun
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 17:57:48 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <siLFDQW00iV048yGFK@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Aug-94 Re: NS/FIP vs
NS/PA by "James Gaines"@psilink.com
>> The PC prices being posted here are rock bottom, and the systems may
>> be a dubious combination for NEXTSTEP, yet people compare them to a
>> list priced integrated workstation from a reputable and recognized
>> performance leader. Ugh!
>
> The HP prices are not list. They are per an HP dealers prices. I have
> attached their price sheet below. If they are not competitive, I want ALL
> HP dealers to know and I also want your source for better HP prices.
Okay. CMU has been offered the following configuration:
List Special
Price Each Price Each
HP 712/60, 32 MB, 1 GB, 1.44 MB Floppy
(SPECfp92= 79, SPECint92= 58, X-Mark93= 6.0)
Configuration # 1 17" 1280x1024 Color Graphics $8,995 $4,947
[ There are actually 7 total configurations, but I won't list them all. ]
Let's do your pricing:
> Part Number Description OSD Price
> A4024A 712/60 base Cell 2,331.00
> A4025A High res. graphics kit (VRAM) 360.00
> A2829A 32MB RAM/2x16 MB RAM boards 2,016.00
> A4067A 1GB Internal disk drive 1,440.00
> A4068A 3,5" floppy disk drive 112.50
> A4030A Localization kit(mouse included) 94.50
>
> Third Party Parts
> 239703 Sony Trinitron 17", 1280x1024 1,300.00
Totalling: $7,654.00
So CMU gets the same configuration $2707 cheaper then yours (a 35% reduction.)
NB: I tried to use all HP parts [even though the third-party products
were cheaper] because these are supported configurations from HP with
HP's warranty behind them. I think if you switch to a HP monitor as
opposed to the 3rd party Sony, you'd get pretty close to the list price
quoted above with Configuration #1. It sounds like your dealer isn't
offering such a great deal after all!!!
Source:
Don Lind, HP Account Rep., for ordering specifics and technical assistance.
Don Lind, (412) 784-3242, don_lind@hpatc2.desk.hp.com
I don't know whether non-CMU people will be able to get the pricing I
list (or even whether I should advertise this pricing), but no one has
told me not to repeat this information and I have no NDA's with CMU or
HP....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...."
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 17:28:50 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33ikci$609@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com>
In article <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com> "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
writes:
> The HP prices are not list. They are per an HP dealers prices. I have
> attached their price sheet below. If they are not competitive, I want ALL HP
> dealers to know and I also want your source for better HP prices.
The prices you quoted are about 10% off of list price.
The prices I included in my correction of your chart are HP list
prices.
There are at least two other discount schedules that have been
described: an academic discount of 33-35%, and a developer
program discount of 52%.
> Assuming the 712/60 to cost around $5k, with a base Cell spread of $3.5k, I
> do not ever see the 712/80 falling below $8.5k within the $7-$11k range.
> Therefore, the only one worth having (712/80) costs at least $3k more than a
> Pentium 90. With the imminent introduction of the Pentium 100, Pent90 prices
> will fall even further, thus increasing its' price/performance ratio relative
> to the 712 series.
Your assertion that 90 MHz Pentium parts, and therefore
systems, will drop in price, but HP systems won't is
questionable on both counts.
I have heard speculation the prices of the 5 volt 60 and 66 MHz
parts would drop. Why would Intel drop the price of it's best
selling (90 Mhz) units?
HP has already reacted more quickly than many would have
thought possible with the "upgrade" of the 712/80i to 712/80
systems. Perhaps they will respond to the 90 MHz Pentium
systems by lowered the price of the 712 systems, and
introducing a 712/100 system.
> Given a mixed-use network, how much faster can the I/O be when you consider
> real throughput due to network limitations and the advent of PCI SCSI cards.
> Does the 712 still have an I/O advantage?
If you have network problems, you have network problems. Fix
them. The fix is not using slower systems!
If you have a 712, you will generally have better I/O.
I note the Canon object.station folks are claiming excellent
network rates. They are using a local-bus network card, which
is a much more rare beast than the ISA cards most Intel systems
utilize.
There is no PCI SCSI card driver for NEXTSTEP at this time, so
your claim is bogus. I look forward to such drivers. If you go
with NCR built-in PCI SCSI, you may be able to use the Talus
driver.
> > I also find it odd that people are comparing the low ball NS/I price
> > with the max list price of NS/HP, this is again, ridiculous. You can
> > get an NS/HP dev. kit for $1000, I don't think the same can be said
> > for NS/I anymore.
>
> I disagree. I personally am offering a brand new, unopened NS/FIP User &
> Dvlp CDs for $1050.00. And have been for a while. This implies that all
> those who want to find NS/FIP below $1100 can do so.
Hmmm...you're trying to sell NS/I...that wouldn't be
prejudicing your argument now, would it? ;-)
You have to acknowledge that there is a limited supply of those
NS/I developer specials offered for sale in this forum, and
that's it. The current special deal from NeXT is NS/HP for $995,
and that's a more stable "market" than this group.
--
Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065
Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923
Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Date: 25 Aug 1994 22:51:43 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <33j79v$mrk@styx.wsc.com>
References: <CEDMAN.94Aug20143204@schnorer.ps.uci.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Aug20143204@schnorer.ps.uci.edu>
cedman@schnorer.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> concerned a large register file is a disadvantage, not an advantage as
> it requires more state to be saved on every switch. And floating
> point performance of course has nothing at all to do with task
> switching but even here 90 and 100 MHz Pentiums beat the 712/60 and
> the original 712/80i.
>
> If you want the fastest NeXTstep machine in the world and money is no
> object buy a large snake, not a Gecko. Otherwise buy a high-end
> Pentium.
>
Interesting.
Would anyone care to speculate why:
1) "perceived" multitasking performance on intel hardware (with faster
chips) compared to black hardware is worse?
2) benchmarked thread tests on a 90MHz Pentium would be 90% of the
result for a 25MHz NeXTstation?
3) A SPARCserver 490 (22 "MIPS") would be able to support 40 users
seamlessly where an Intel NEXTSTEP box can support one process?
My conclusion was that the hardware sucks. I figured that UNIX hardware
vendors would make stuff that supports the UNIX OS a little better than
would PC vendors targeting DOS. This seemed to be backed up by my
experience with Sun hardware in which the same OS performed differently
when other supporting features were added to the motherboard, apart
from "more RAM" and a faster processor.
- darcy
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 25 Aug 1994 21:47:20 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Message-ID: <33j3h8$53e@news.icaen.uiowa.edu>
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <Cv2MxJ.4vy@world.std.com> <bchin.777789789@news.andi.org> <Cv3zKv.LF9@world.std.com>
seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) writes:
>Heck, Micronet is advertising a 14MB/sec disk array for the Mac.. How
>will you add that to the 712s?
How will you add that to a P5/90? I don't see the point of this particular
comparison :-)
--
Doug Siebert | I have a proof that everything I have stated above
dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu | is true, but this .sig is too small to contain it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: [Q]: how to use '030 board in an '040 cube
Message-ID: <Cv44ME.A8q@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 22:47:00 GMT
Can anyone tell me how one modifies and uses an '030 board
in an '040-equipped cube?
Thanks,
Chuck Herrick <charles.herrick@amd.com>
--
personal opinions
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 25 Aug 1994 23:07:27 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33j87f$mt5@styx.wsc.com>
References: <3363kq$12t@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <3363kq$12t@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <1994Aug20.014749.4027@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
samurai@cs.mcgill.ca
> (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>
> > The "list" pricing. I got a price (quantity of 5 spread over a year)
> > of $4100 per machine, 16/500 config with CD-ROM drive. No monitor.
>
> That's the academic pricing, which isn't available to everyone.
Developer pricing :-).
> > Again, I can get a similarly configured Pentium machine for the
> > same amount.
>
> You haven't been following the prices! You can have
> a Dell 90 Mhz P90 system in similar config for about $3,500.
With fast SCSI-II on a local bus, w/ NS-enhanced video, CD-quality
sound, and fast ethernet w/CR-ROM? I think the Dell in question uses an
IDE controller... Anyway, as far as I could figure, a similarly
speced out machine with a slightly faster processor would cost about
the same as an object.station.
I wish I had one so I could compare against my JCIS Pentiums which
I'm not overly thrilled with, so until someone owns these things
side by side, it's hard to tell.
Anyway, a couple months ago I paid about $4,300 for 66MHz Pentiums
with Intel EtherExpress cards, Weitek P9100 cards, mice, keyboards,
32M RAM, PCI SCSI-II controllers, MS-Windows sound system, DOS+Windows,
500M disk. Can you post the specs on the Dell?
> > Also, I can spend 6 weeks on the floor trying to
> > get them to work. I can also end up leaving the cases off because
> > they generate too much heat.
>
> The 60 and 66 MHz Pentiums were higher voltage parts than the
> 90 MHz parts. I haven't heard of masses of P90 owners
> suffering the problems you describe.
No, we 90MHz owners (hi Kris, hi Eric) suffer from a variety of other
problems, also including the heat problems. Not all of the heat inside
these cases comes from the CPU. As far as I can tell, the EtherExpress
throws quite a bit of heat, and the hard disk definitely throws much more
than the CPU. The problem is that these things lie in *bad* places in
many PC cases (ie. my hard disk is a half inch from the system RAM. Not
a good location cause my disk runs too hot to touch). Anyway, they're
just junky designs thrown together with one thing in mind: low cost.
If you're lucky, your machine isn't heat sensitive. If you're unlucky,
yours is. My P90 seems to be, as does one of our P66s.
> > I can also discover that the DX4 is
> > as fast under NEXTSTEP as a P/66 (integer). I can then, finally,
> > rest secure with my P/90 crashing/window server dying once or twice
> > a day.
>
> Must be a bum system, sorry to hear that.
Well, 4 PCs, only one works flawlessly. Of the other 3, two experience
intermittent crashes, and one just does wierd things like disabling
its cache every now and then.
> > My law of computing hardware: pay now, or pay later, but believe me,
> > you *will* pay.
>
> If you are saying that a Canon system is the only system that
> will work, you've really lost it, Darcy! It's a nice system,
> but it's not the only viable game in town. I'd like one myself,
> but not at the current pricing.
No, I'm not saying that it's the only one that will work. I'm just
saying that you get what you pay for. If you spend hours of time
searching for the lowest price, you will get the lowest price, and
you'll lose those hours of time. Dell is cool because if you don't
like the machine, you've got 30 days to send it back, no questions
asked.
If you want to send back your JCIS machine, you spend hours on the
phone with them, and they want you to jump through hoops before they
let you consider sending it back. And JCIS is "somewhat reputable."
When your PC breaks down (and it will) you'll pay the price then
too. I'm betting that an integrated system will offer better performance
as well: my P90 with fast SCSI-II disk controller and fast SCSI-II disk
writes files SLOWER than our 25MHz NeXTstation with SLOW SCSI I and
a crappy disk.
Why? Beats me. Nobody knows the answer to this. You buy mystery hardware,
and you get mystery performance.
Every time I tried to shop, I got:
1) lost time
2) crappy performance
3) crappy support
4) tons o stress (and people wonder why I'm nastier than usual lately...
PCs did it to me, I swear)
5) sore hands from ripping cases apart
All this was easily worth $1k to me... just my time alone was worth
that much.
I'd rather go with a box that you can turn on and It Just Works even
though I have to pay more. The performance is better, the support
is better, and you can send it back.
You can get some of the above with Dell, but of my Dell orders, I've
had to send half the stuff back cause it was wrong/didn't work or
cancelled because they couldn't deliver when they said they would.
I may be seeing an object.station up close real soon now, and this
should answer some questions: all this is just speculation until someone
bangs on one.
- db
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why isn't the Gecko's Dhrystones mark higher?
Date: 25 Aug 1994 23:54:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33jb06INNqb5@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <CEDMAN.94Aug20143204@schnorer.ps.uci.edu> <33j79v$mrk@styx.wsc.com>
In article <33j79v$mrk@styx.wsc.com>, samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes:
|>
|> Would anyone care to speculate why:
|>
|> 1) "perceived" multitasking performance on intel hardware (with faster
|> chips) compared to black hardware is worse?
|> 2) benchmarked thread tests on a 90MHz Pentium would be 90% of the
|> result for a 25MHz NeXTstation?
|> 3) A SPARCserver 490 (22 "MIPS") would be able to support 40 users
|> seamlessly where an Intel NEXTSTEP box can support one process?
|>
|> My conclusion was that the hardware sucks. I figured that UNIX hardware
|> vendors would make stuff that supports the UNIX OS a little better than
|> would PC vendors targeting DOS. This seemed to be backed up by my
|> experience with Sun hardware in which the same OS performed differently
|> when other supporting features were added to the motherboard, apart
|> from "more RAM" and a faster processor.
It's almost definitely hardware, but probably has little to do with the
CPU itself. Pentium has pretty respectable context-switch times according
to most benchmarks I've seen, so it's unlikely that the actual process of
task switching is the problem. I'd look instead at the I/O subsystems. If
your apps are heavy network users and you're using an ISA ethernet board,
this alone could be a big factor. Some posts have also argued that the
NCR/Talus combination is rather demanding in terms of CPU bendwidth -
apparently the NCR requires a large degree of hand-holding from the
driver. While this effect would be invisible to a single task (it'd be
blocked during I/O anyway...) it would tend to slow down other processes.
|>
|> - darcy
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 26 Aug 1994 01:33:15 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <33jgor$8f0@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu> <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com>
In article <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com> zone@panix.com (Alex Lee) writes:
>This is getting to be a religious battle. Lets stop and say that neither side
>is going to convince the other that their stuff is better.
Heh, what isn't around here. However, this is a public forum, and there
are a lot of people watching who are better off knowing more about both
types of machine. Whether the combatants defeat each other is not the
point.
>The HP 712/60 is slightly slower then a pentium for comparable prices.
>The HP 712/80 is slightly faster then a pentium for more money.
Well, this is based on, what, one SPEC benchmark .
We don't know how these numbers compare using NeXT's compiler, nor do
we have any comparison whatsoever of disk, video, network and general
NEXTSTEP performance.
NS/HP runs on a narrow range of hardware and has been tuned to operate
within this range at peak performance. Given the enormous range of Intel
CPU, video, disk and enet systems, can most people honestly say their
hardware configuration is optimal, that the drivers available for it will
work optimally and that NEXTSTEP is tuned for their configuration? I
don't think so.
Have we seen a lot of NS/I drivers and systems that just don't seem to
operate as fast as we thought they would? yep!
This is the SameOldArgument that people used to use against the NeXT
hardware, and now it's being used against the HP hardware. The PC
proponents were wrong then, and I think they are wrong now. The majority
of PC hardware sucks, period.
From my standpoint, as someone who bought NeXT hardware and would do
it again:
The 712 is an great NEXTSTEP machine if you do not need PC features.
An Intel machine is your only choice if you need PC features.
If you need a PC, don't buy an HP!
If you don't need a PC, consider an HP!
Besides, I can play BoinkOut in "excellent" mode while doing a 14MB
link on this 712/80, that alone is worth it ;)
--
|: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :|
|: "If you find this world bad, you should see some of the others" -PKD :|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ISA SCSI Adapters
Message-ID: <Cv4FFE.7v0@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <33gd9c$kl2@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 02:40:25 GMT
Grettir Asmundarson (grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com) wrote:
: I'm putting together a home-brew NeXTSTEP machine. In specing out the
: machine and I've found a PCI/ISA motherboard that I would like to use.
: However, I was hoping to use an Adpatec 1740 EISA SCSI card. With only
: PCI and ISA slots on the motherboard, that is no longer an option.
I am doing the same thing, and have 2/3 of the necessary components.
If you have yet to commit yourself to a motherboard, Grettir, I would
urge you to reconsider. ISA-based motherboards do not map directly to
RAM beyond 16 MB, forcing the OS to do RAM paging(at a performance
cost) for references beyond that address line. EISA does not impose
such a limitation. If you must have a PCI motherboard, seek a
PCI/EISA system.
: Do I give up that much by going with an Adaptec 1540 or some other
: ISA-based SCSI card over the 1740? After all, the NeXTSTEP driver only
: supports the 1740 in Standard (1540 emulation) mode. I've noticed that
: some of the other EISA SCSI drivers only work when the card is set to a
: non-32-bit mode as well.
FYI, a 32-bit, third party BusLogic driver is now available at
ftp.next.com and appears to be quite stable for the 445S and 747S
cards.
: So, are there any EISA SCSI cards that are going to give me a significant
: performance increase over a simple 1540?
I should have my 747S-based EISA system running in a week or so. I'll
soon be able to say how well the card runs, but won't have 1540 to
compare.
: Yes, I could go with a PCI SCSI card, but (for personal reasons) I'd
: rather not have to go to Talus for drivers (ala the NCR 53C810) and NeXT
: probably isn't terribly close to releasing a driver for the Adaptec 2940.
: I don't know of any other PCI SCSI options at this point.
I made up my mind to avoid hope-ware and promise-ware when I decided to
take the plunge. It all comes down to how venturesome you want to be.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: laire@taifun.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 26 Aug 1994 08:44:07 +0200
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <33k2vn$nph@taifun.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com> <33ikci$609@news.ycc.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>There is no PCI SCSI card driver for NEXTSTEP at this time, so
>your claim is bogus. I look forward to such drivers. If you go
>with NCR built-in PCI SCSI, you may be able to use the Talus
>driver.
I'm curious how you come this conclusion that the Talus driver
doesn't work with cheap 70$ NCR 810 addon cards but with onboard
NCR 810. There's no difference...both using a pci slot.
I was in email contact lately with somebody that has P90+NCR810
card working....i built up my NextPC with Asus onboard SCSI+
Talus driver about a week ago like a charme.
I build up everything myself from parts...had no PC,NextSTep
experience before and i'm no hw guy.
What's the conclusion ?
It must be pretty easy to build up the PC from parts,install NextStep
and have no problem at all.
Some months when the HP Snake was tested the first time i thought
it was a nice machine on the first view but if you look behind
the curtain you can't seriously suggest such machine for a
normal NextStep user...for companys where money is no concern
it may look different.
My points against HP.
1) Price is ridiculous...in germany you have to buy the whole machine
with the HP monitor.
2) Gfx resolution+depth not funny
3) Ok..fine we have bought it now...what's then ?
o Upgrade costs for real 24Bit.(You loose your left arm here:-)
o What's with new NextStep version if this HP-Next contract
breaks ? I don't think Next would support about 500-1000
HP-Nextstep users till judgement day
o Let's skip 1-2 years into the future....we aren't satisfied
with our HP Snake anymore and want something faster.
Heh...well...buy a new HP Snake2 then.
o If you wanna buy new HDs/Peripherie you don't know if it works
because such workstation vendors like to hack their own firmware
and their own scsi-protocoll(SCSI should have been an approved
trademark imho) to ripp off people to pay their manager
salaries.
Well..with a PC i can upgrade with no problem and for reasonable
prices and i know what i get because i'm in control.
If the HP Snake would offer something that is worth it...significant
speed difference to the best PC systems but that's not the case
anymore for small workstations.
--
Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de
University of Paderborn (Germany)
From: meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next
Subject: HPs color recovery (was Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA)
Date: 26 Aug 1994 09:04:10 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33kb6a$jv4@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu>
Originator: meyergru@hpradigf.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
In article <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
[munch]
|>
|> Think about it!
|>
|> Obviously the 8-bit Color Recovery works under HP/UX. In fact, it seems
|> like HP provides better support for drawing with it under X then you'll
|> get under NEXTSTEP. Take a look at the following WWW URL:
|>
|> http://www.hp.com/mhm/WhitePapers/Artist/Artist.html
|>
[munch]
Not quite. I have an HP 712/60 and have tried both HP/UX and NS on it.
"Color recovery" consists of a signal processing chips that works at 135 MHz
to analyse a 4x4 or 16x2 pixel wide rectangle of the video buffer (which
consists of 8 bit values translated to 256 different 24-bit color values).
If the contrast is relatively low, there is a low-pass filter (like a mean
or gauss) applied, so that the resulting gradations look like more than 8
bits in terms of color resolution. If the contrast is high (like black on
white text), there is no change in the output image. How they do this
exactly is a company secret, so I can only guess from the visual impression
and the facts that have been made public in various places.
This means that to use the benefits of color recovery, you'll have to dither
in software, so that the hardware can improve the appearance.
The sole difference between the 24-bit and the 8 bit mode under NS on the HP
is in my opinion, that in 8 bit mode, color recovery is disabled, so that the
resulting image is visually more coarse. You can also see how color
recovery works if you use Magnify.app to enlarge a portion of the screen.
Under NeXTSTEP, the whole dithering part is the duty of the windowserver, while
the hardware does the improvements in when 24-bit mode. You as the user do not
have to bother with these implementation details and specify your colors
as if they were 24-bit, period.
The support for color recovery in HP/UX on the other hand is just that the
X11 server can handle color recovery by means of the second hardware
color lookup table. The server even handles setting this table for single
windows (I suppose by using the vertical rectrace interrupt, because the
borders flicker when you move such a window).
The dithering has to be done by _you_, the user in 8-bit space. The second
point is that the color table itself is buggy (as of HP/UX 9.03), which
means that any gray level is yellowish (you can't even generate white),
despite the fact that the colormap entry says 0xffffff for RGB values.
In order to try this, however, you'll have to be able to pick up the pieces
of information to make use of color recovery anyway, and I doubt that many
people have done it already.
If this is your impression of better support of color recovery under HP/UX,
it is definitely not mine. I suggest to simply disregard the marketing blurb
in the WWW page and look at the facts.
Clarification: I have nothing against HP, just the contrary, but the
support for color recovery (which is a leading-edge technology IMHO) under
HP/UX is not at all good, and I have to speak against anybody who says
otherwise. The HP 712 is a fine machine. However, even the support under
NeXTSTEP could well be improved in two ways:
1. Since the region is only 4x4 pixels (or 16x2, although I doubt that
these figures are correct, because one matrix is 16 pixels and the other 32),
the region size for dithering in software should be chosen appropriately.
Under NeXTSTEP, it seems too large, which you can see in the scroll bars.
Since the dithering matrix is too large for the hardware to accomodate,
there are vertical stripes in certain color shades.
2. The power supply of the Artist grahpic chips seems to be unstable.
When you compile /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/Lines, start it and
make the window smaller, you can see fluctuations in the brightness
on the whole screen, like a pumping monitor due to power supply problems.
The same effect can be seen when a text window is scrolled. Just don't
look at the window itself but at another part of the screen.
Since this effect does not occur with HP/UX, I suspect that there is
a central loop or something which feeds the graphic chip that causes
this behaviour. Although this _might_ be a hardware idiosyncrasy, it can
be fixed like the X11 server of HP/UX shows (I don't have the means nor
am I willing to analyse this any further, just my point of view).
cheers, Uwe
Uwe Meyer-Gruhl "And if I die today I'll be the happy phantom
Lehrstuhl Informatik IX and I'll go chasing nuns out in the yard" (TA)
Technische Universitaet Muenchen email:MeyerGru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Orleansstr. 34, D-81667 Muenchen tel: ++49 89 48095-209
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Plato experiences?
Date: 26 Aug 94 08:36:57 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.777890217@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <33ikot$5r7@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
peter@piassun3.joanneum.ac.at (Peter Resele) writes:
>Who has experiences (positive and negative) with the Intel Plato motherboard
>(Pentium PCI) and NeXTstep? Some earlier messages indicated problems,
>which later seemed to be resolved. Anybody running the board successfully?
>Configuration (SCSI card, graphics card)?
Me: Intel Plato, ELSA Winner 2000Pro PCI, NCR 810 PCI, Intel EtherExpress,
64 MB RAM, IBM 0662S12 disk.
After the installation trouble (PCI newbie traps) it seems to run quite
stable now and _blindingly fast_.
Markus.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: al369@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Ayub Gaya)
Subject: URGENT help on Scsi specs
Message-ID: <Cv56Iy.EBD@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (Usenet News Admin)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 12:25:46 GMT
I need specs on jumper setting of SCSI Drive IBM Type 0663. I think its
SCSI-2 drive but not sure. Please if you have any information on this
drive email me the info.
Also i tried using this drive with SCSI controller but i get error " HOST
ADAPTOR FAILER" but the card is fine because i have another scsi drive and
that one works fine with this SCSI card. Thats why i think its a SCSI-2
drive.But it should fall back to SCSI if its a SCSI-2 drive Right?
This is the reason i need jumper setting .
Please let me know ASAP.
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: shawn@monitor.com
Subject: help - Epson NX crashes periodically
Message-ID: <Cv588C.2u4@monitor.com>
Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 13:02:36 GMT
i've got an EpsonNX 3.2 standalone box that panics during the night about twice
a week. when it crashes i come in and either see a panic panel on top of the
standard 3.2 login panel screen saver OR the screen saver is just hung.
any data on this sort of thing with these beasts? any known driver problems?
i'd write it off as random crap if the machine were on a network and actually
doing work, but since it's standalone and logged-out this seems weird.
any info appreciated.
shawn
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw
through the leather straps.
-- Emo Phillips
--
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
From: wich1820@maynard.ww.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Wichmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: [Q]: Dell Optiplex and ET4000W32
Date: 26 Aug 1994 13:47:03 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <33kron$7rm@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
I have a Dell Optiplex 466/L with a TsengLabs ET4000/W32i 2MB Local-Bus
Video running NEXTStep now for half a year very reliably. But: Black and
white 2Bit 1078x768 only. When starting the system with the ET4000SVGA-
Driver there comes a message that no higher mode is supported. Is that
true? Or is there a way to get at least a little bit of color?
The new ET4000W32-Driver (prerelease) does not work at all. It identifies
the video chip correctly, but the screen remains black (not even b/w any
more) no matter what resolution I choose. Any hints?
Thanks.
Thorsten
--
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Thorsten Wichmann
Technical University Berlin, Dept. of Economics, WW16
Uhlandstr. 4-5, 10623 Berlin, Germany
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From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 26 Aug 1994 13:45:12 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33krl8$sbe@styx.wsc.com>
References: <33f2nt$i7@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
In article <33f2nt$i7@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
>
> NeXT's Display Postscript relies heavily on floating-point performance.
While
> You might get the same integer performance, graphics will be slower.
> (Of course, this also depends on the graphics system itself).
>
Hmmm. Then why do NeXTstation mono machines provide faster video than
most 486 machines though the 486 machines have faster float? The HP
machines have much much much more powerful float, yet the fastest
PC video solutions are equivalent to the HP video solutions.
Yes, DPS needs float, but it's not *the* determining factor in graphics
performance. There's a whole lotta things that matter, including
bit depth, 555 opposed to 444 mode, bus type and bandwidth, and
plain old video chip speed, as well as integer performance of the CPU.
So, expect this with your object.station:
1) same integer performance as a P/66 under NEXTSTEP
2) slower floating point than the same P/66
3) faster video than a P/66!
A P/66 equipped with an Elsa Winner or a #9 GXE pro may come close. I
can't tell without having a machine on hand (I keep repeating this in
the hope that someone will give me an object.station to shut me up :-).
- db
--
So, we went out to dinner last night and there was this large group of females
from 'Women's Wear Daily' next to us. They stopped me as I went by and they
remarked that they hated my tie. Your taste in ties has never been truly
dissed until Women's Wear Daily has informed you, in person, that it sucks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Take it to comp.sys.next.misc, please ->: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Message-ID: <Cv5Avp.M8v@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <33ikci$609@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 13:59:47 GMT
In article <33ikci$609@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan
F. Janette) writes:
> In article <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com> "James Gaines"
<p00378@psilink.com>
> writes:
A lot of stuff which has nothing for sale.
And please stop cross-posting. We can all read it in
one newsgroup, thanks.
--
personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lemke@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM (Kennedy Lemke)
Subject: pizza box specs urgently needed
Message-ID: <1994Aug26.161513.531@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM>
Sender: news@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory, Princeton, NJ
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 16:15:13 GMT
Hello--
We have several 68040 NeXT grayscale workstations, and I need
know the specifications of the chip (speed). Can someone please
tell me the MHz. rating of the chip in these machines and also
the mips (and vax mips if available) rating? Thank you.
Kennedy Lemke
, , ___ ______
/| /| / / / Computer Systems Manager
/ | / | / / / Postmaster && News administrator
/ | / | / / / Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
/ |/ | _/_ / /____ Panasonic Technologies, Inc.
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Work Phone: (609) 734-7329 Princeton, New Jersey 08540-6628
Fax: (609) 987-8827 Email: lemke@Research.Panasonic.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: DPS and floating point (was: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions)
Message-ID: <1994Aug26.170216.13053@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <33krl8$sbe@styx.wsc.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 17:02:16 GMT
In article <33krl8$sbe@styx.wsc.com> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes:
>In article <33f2nt$i7@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
>rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
>>
>> NeXT's Display Postscript relies heavily on floating-point performance.
>While
>> You might get the same integer performance, graphics will be slower.
>> (Of course, this also depends on the graphics system itself).
>>
>
>Hmmm. Then why do NeXTstation mono machines provide faster video than
>most 486 machines though the 486 machines have faster float? The HP
>machines have much much much more powerful float, yet the fastest
>PC video solutions are equivalent to the HP video solutions.
>
>Yes, DPS needs float, but it's not *the* determining factor in graphics
>performance. There's a whole lotta things that matter, including
>bit depth, 555 opposed to 444 mode, bus type and bandwidth, and
>plain old video chip speed, as well as integer performance of the CPU.
>
> [munch]
I know people are probably tired of hearing me repeat this, but DPS as
constituted in the NEXTSTEP window server goes out of it's way to avoid
floating point computation. While values are often specified as real numbers,
the interpreter converts them to a fixed point representation as soon as it
determines that it can. So, while DPS definitely does use FP, it is not as
heavily reliant on it as one might expect. Remember, this is basically the same
code base that has been optimized to run on printer controllers without FP
units.
Many RISC processors found in workstations have good to stellar FP performance.
The X86 line is getting there. As this trend continues it may make sense for us
to use floating point more often and avoid the conversions. Right now avoiding
FP on an x86 is still the right thing to do.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
P.S. The AppKit code that deals with windows and views is also a consumer of FP
cycles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: HPs color recovery (was Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA)
Message-ID: <1994Aug26.172107.13753@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <33kb6a$jv4@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 17:21:07 GMT
In article <33kb6a$jv4@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl) writes:
> [preface deleted]
>
>"Color recovery" consists of a signal processing chips that works at 135 MHz
>to analyse a 4x4 or 16x2 pixel wide rectangle of the video buffer (which
>consists of 8 bit values translated to 256 different 24-bit color values).
>
>If the contrast is relatively low, there is a low-pass filter (like a mean
>or gauss) applied, so that the resulting gradations look like more than 8
>bits in terms of color resolution. If the contrast is high (like black on
>white text), there is no change in the output image. How they do this
>exactly is a company secret, so I can only guess from the visual impression
>and the facts that have been made public in various places.
>
>This means that to use the benefits of color recovery, you'll have to dither
>in software, so that the hardware can improve the appearance.
>
>The sole difference between the 24-bit and the 8 bit mode under NS on the HP
>is in my opinion, that in 8 bit mode, color recovery is disabled, so that the
>resulting image is visually more coarse. You can also see how color
>recovery works if you use Magnify.app to enlarge a portion of the screen.
>
>Under NeXTSTEP, the whole dithering part is the duty of the windowserver,
while
>the hardware does the improvements in when 24-bit mode. You as the user do not
>have to bother with these implementation details and specify your colors
>as if they were 24-bit, period.
>
> [munch]
Actually, this isn't quite right. When the NEXTSTEP windowserver looks out at a
color recovery based frame buffer, it sees a 24bpp system and treats it as
such. It does not see an 8bpp frame buffer and does not do any dithering. The
color recovery system reads 24 bit pixels (actually 32 bits with 24 bits of
useful information), encodes them into 8 bit pixels and stores them in an
internal framebuffer (not directly visible to the window server). It is the
color recovery system that does the encoding and then the filtering. The
details of the encoding process are not public as far as I know.
When NEXTSTEP runs in 8 bit color (a new feature), it does all the dithering
itself. This is the same thing that happens when you run DPS/X on an 8 bit
visual. (Actually, in DPS/X systems DPS usually doesn't get to work with the
entire 256 entry colormap - with NS it does. This results in better quality
output).
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA - disk?
Date: 26 Aug 1994 17:57:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <33lael$kbl@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <33k2vn$nph@taifun.uni-paderborn.de>
I have heard some contradictory stories about disk I/O. In particular,
someone once sent me email, telling me that the internal disk on the HP
under HP/UX was close to an order of magnitude faster than my disk under
NS/FIP. Then someone posted to a newsgroup that disk I/O was disappointing
under NS/HP relative to the NS/FIP EISA performance.
Would someone please post disk I/O benchmarks
* under NS/FIP 3.2 (and 3.3) vs NS/HP (the final release)
* on the same machine, under NS and under another Unix
system (linux or HP/UX).
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 26 Aug 1994 18:01:07 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33lal3$kbu@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <33j87f$mt5@styx.wsc.com>
> No, we 90MHz owners (hi Kris, hi Eric) suffer from a variety of other
> problems, also including the heat problems. Not all of the heat inside
> these cases comes from the CPU. As far as I can tell, the EtherExpress
> throws quite a bit of heat, and the hard disk definitely throws much
more
> than the CPU. The problem is that these things lie in *bad* places in
> many PC cases (ie. my hard disk is a half inch from the system RAM. Not
> a good location cause my disk runs too hot to touch). Anyway, they're
> just junky designs thrown together with one thing in mind: low cost.
> If you're lucky, your machine isn't heat sensitive. If you're unlucky,
> yours is. My P90 seems to be, as does one of our P66s.
OK, so my DELL XPS90 has no such problems. (Unfortunately, it does not
have the NCR chip on-board; it needs to go thru an extra card.) It comes
with a 30-day money-back guarantee, and one can cheaply buy a 3-year
on-site warranty. How much better can it get?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 26 Aug 1994 18:37:22 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33lcp2$ed@styx.wsc.com>
References: <33lal3$kbu@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <33lal3$kbu@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
> > No, we 90MHz owners (hi Kris, hi Eric) suffer from a variety of other
> > problems, also including the heat problems. Not all of the heat inside
> > these cases comes from the CPU. As far as I can tell, the EtherExpress
> > throws quite a bit of heat, and the hard disk definitely throws much
[...]
>
> OK, so my DELL XPS90 has no such problems. (Unfortunately, it does not
> have the NCR chip on-board; it needs to go thru an extra card.) It comes
> with a 30-day money-back guarantee, and one can cheaply buy a 3-year
> on-site warranty. How much better can it get?
Well, you're forgetting the major bad thing with PCs: they're
non-deterministic :-). You have a good one, be happy! 75% of those
I've worked with (with clients and in our office) are sucky.
The Dell guarantee is pretty nice, I think. I've had to use it on more
than one occasion ("Get thee back to thy maker, thou art foul and
malfunctioning, demon-spawned monitor!"... I think that's the correct
incantation).
BTW, if you have time, measure your disk performance with DiskPerformance.app
or the byte benchmarks. My P/90 with NCR PCI SCSI card can only write
files at 435kb/sec (this is with a fast SCSI-II hard disk) which clocks
in far below black mono slow SCSI I. The writes should be at least three
times faster than this.
- db
--
So, we went out to dinner last night and there was this large group of females
from 'Women's Wear Daily' next to us. They stopped me as I went by and they
remarked that they hated my tie. Your taste in ties has never been truly
dissed until Women's Wear Daily has informed you, in person, that it sucks.
From: shiangli@girtab.usc.edu (Sonny Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can't install NS3.2 on Conner CFA540A HD
Date: 26 Aug 1994 11:58:34 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: shiangli@girtab.usc.edu
Message-ID: <33le0q$76q@girtab.usc.edu>
Hi,
Recently I tried to install NeXTSTEP 3.2 on my pc which
is 486-DX33 VLB system. I have a 540MB IDE HD to be used for
this. It seems that NeXTSTEP doesn't like this one. From
time to time, the error message came out until installation
stopped. When I tried to boot, the system panics..
Is there anyone can give me any idea about this?
Thankx
Sonny
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre)
Subject: ISA Video for NS
Message-ID: <dalCv5MCK.4rL@netcom.com>
Keywords: video,intel,isa
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 18:07:31 GMT
Does anyone know which ISA video cards are compatible with NS
at 1152x842 16bit color? There don't seem to be any in the
HW compat guide.
Thanks.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Dana Letendre |
President, LC | You don't learn anything when you're
NeXT Sys Admin | talking.
From: zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WANTED: Specs on Object Station
Date: 26 Aug 1994 15:01:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <33le5e$l88@search01.news.aol.com>
Will the cannon intel objecstation have any type of future
processor upgrade ability?? Where can I get more info on the
scsi/ide disk controler? This and any other info would be
appreciated.
--rich
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 26 Aug 1994 23:08:49 GMT
Organization: RGNET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33lsm1$d0a@pop0.rain.rg.net>
References: <33lcp2$ed@styx.wsc.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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> BTW, if you have time, measure your disk performance with
DiskPerformance.app
> or the byte benchmarks. My P/90 with NCR PCI SCSI card can only write
> files at 435kb/sec (this is with a fast SCSI-II hard disk) which clocks
> in far below black mono slow SCSI I. The writes should be at least three
> times faster than this.
>
I can't figure out why Talus can't figure out why us NCR users are getting
such poor right performance.. Considering we all paid at least 150.00 for
the driver, I am looking forward to a fix.. BTW, MY GW2000 P5-90 works
flawlessly with an 810 ncr controller card and I am running a #9GXE 64 pro
4mb @1132x864 32bit color.. 1.77 NXBench.. Cant beat that.. I'll be
interested to see what the Cannon Object station turns in for the same
test.. And it has know way of doing 32bit color at more than 800x600..
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
From: rhess@adoc.xerox.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: will it work on Black hardware?... [ Global Village modem ]
Date: 26 Aug 94 15:45:26
Organization: Xerox AODS, Palo Alto, California.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RHESS.94Aug26154526@adoc.xerox.COM>
Has anyone tried to use Global Village modems (Gold/Mercury) on Black
hardware? If you have, do you know if it works with NXFax software?
Thanks,
Dick...
+-------------------------------------------------------------[ Richard Hess ]
phone: 415.813.7330
email: rhess@adoc.xerox.com
From: mgw@wauchope.phoenix.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISA Video for NS
Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:04:11 GMT
Organization: Phoenix Data Systems, Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <33m6ur$l0l@dolphin.phoenix.net>
References: <dalCv5MCK.4rL@netcom.com>
In article <dalCv5MCK.4rL@netcom.com> dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre)
writes:
> Does anyone know which ISA video cards are compatible with NS
> at 1152x842 16bit color? There don't seem to be any in the
> HW compat guide.
That's because NeXTSTEP FIP doesn't support any ISA video cards. VLBus,
PCI and EISA are the only bus architectures supported in 16bit color.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital mwauch@phoenix.phoenix.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: lynn@wordperfect.com (Lynn LeBaron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS 3.1 m68k PLEASE...NEED HELP!
Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:34:56 GMT
Organization: WordPerfect Corporation
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8415]
Message-ID: <33m8og$87m@volcane.wordperfect.com>
References: <payne440.67.00009FB0@utw.com>
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
I've attached an external 1 G drive to my 68k slab and made it my boot
drive. I may be able to help. Another plus is that I'm local
(756-5492).
+ Lynn:
Message-ID: <5VanHNhonrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>
Organization: Orga-what?
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From: kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 26 Aug 1994 09:28:00 +0100
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
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> (I didn't include a CD-ROM drive, I'm not sure if the NEC is
> an adequate replacement to the HP, so I left it out)
The Toshibas did work. 3301, 3401 and 4101.
Kristian
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"Der Schritt zur Schaffung einer einheitlichen deutschsprachigen Themen-
struktur waere somit nichts weiter, als die derzeitigen Gegebenheiten
schlicht zur Kenntnis zu nehmen." -- lp@shlink.shn.com (Lutz Petersen)
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From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't install NS3.2 on Conner CFA540A HD
Date: 27 Aug 1994 05:06:18 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <33mhka$4ib@rosie.next.com>
References: <33le0q$76q@girtab.usc.edu>
In article <33le0q$76q@girtab.usc.edu> shiangli@girtab.usc.edu (Sonny Wu)
writes:
> Hi,
>
> Recently I tried to install NeXTSTEP 3.2 on my pc which
> is 486-DX33 VLB system. I have a 540MB IDE HD to be used for
> this. It seems that NeXTSTEP doesn't like this one. From
> time to time, the error message came out until installation
> stopped. When I tried to boot, the system panics..
> Is there anyone can give me any idea about this?
>
> Thankx
>
> Sonny
It would be helpful if you could provide more information:
What error messages were displayed during installation?
What panic message did you get?
That will help people (including myself) who might want to give advice...
-Mark
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I do NOT speak for NeXT
------>IMPORTANT<------
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ISA SCSI Adapters
Date: 27 Aug 1994 05:22:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <33miiu$4k0@rosie.next.com>
References: <Cv4FFE.7v0@eskimo.com>
In article <Cv4FFE.7v0@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
writes:
{snip]
> If you have yet to commit yourself to a motherboard, Grettir, I would
> urge you to reconsider. ISA-based motherboards do not map directly to
> RAM beyond 16 MB, forcing the OS to do RAM paging(at a performance
> cost) for references beyond that address line. EISA does not impose
> such a limitation. If you must have a PCI motherboard, seek a
> PCI/EISA system.
Actually, no - you CAN use more than 16 MB of RAM in PCI/ISA systems, even
in ISA/VLB systems. You WILL have problems with >64MB in ISA systems, at
least with NEXTSTEP 3.2 ...
Good luck,
-Mark
------>IMPORTANT<------
I do NOT speak for NeXT
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer installation
Message-ID: <1994Aug26.094826.2755@aplki.toppoint.de>
Keywords: bootpd, LaserJet, JetDirect
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
References: <33gkid$aip@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 94 09:48:26 GMT
In article <33gkid$aip@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi
Ohzawa) writes:
> In article <33fnj4$rcb@columba.udac.uu.se> lk@SysCon.uu.se(Erlendur Karlsson)
writes:
> >We are installing an HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer
> > ...
> >The key is the BOOTP/TFTP facilities.
> bootpd on NS 3.2 is outdated
Yes. We installed bootpd2.36 (Sorry, I don't know the FTP server) and this is
the entry in the bootptab for it:
hklaser:\
:hn:ht=ether:vm=rfc1048:\
:ha=08000976f141:\
:sm=255.255.255.0:\
:ip=134.245.103.11:\
:lg=134.245.103.3:
lg=134.245.103.3 determines the sylog host.
Greetings,
A. Ploeger
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Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer installation
Date: 27 Aug 1994 09:33:45 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <33n19p$pon@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <33fnj4$rcb@columba.udac.uu.se> <33gkid$aip@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <33gkid$aip@agate.berkeley.edu>
izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
>I used bootpd stuff just set the IP address for the printer.
>Test page shows the Ethernet address of the interface, so
>you just have to use that number just as you set up
>NetInfo clients.
>
>Then, you can just telnet to the standard telnet port (not 9100)
>which allows you to set IP address, net mask, default gateway,
>and syslog host address. (This may require newere JetDirect
>MIO sold after May 1, 1994, specifically J255xA series card.
>J27xxA series JetDirect is the older version.)
I was able to set up a new HP LaserJet 4M Plus without using BOOTP
at all by adding a temporary IP route to the "bogus" IP address
from the test page (this is described in an appendix to the
JetDirect manual, but their example was subtly wrong), an ARP
entry for its hardware address, and telnetting to the "bogus" IP
address. Once the proper IP address is stored, the ARP entry
and route can go away.
-=EPS=-
From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MPU-401 drivers
Date: 27 Aug 1994 10:22:34 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <33n45a$8f0@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
Where can I get a NSFIP driver for a MPU-401 compatible?
I want to use it with an AudiotrixPro.
What does the alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel currently
support? Soundboard's? Which standard?
--
-------------------------------------------------------
Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
From: a5401gac@c1.cc.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Audiotrix and NS
Date: 27 Aug 1994 10:23:02 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Message-ID: <33n466$8f0@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
I want to buy an Audiotrix Pro. I want to use it in a DEC-PC with the
Adaptec 1740. Will it work? Which hard- & software settings?
My major use is to do MIDI in/output plus concurrent sound output.
Is the original NS MIDI driver working on Intel at all? Does it support
these cards, or other MIDI interfaces that connect to the serial port?
Or is there an extra MIDI driver somewhere on a server, or
do I have to get the Alpha version of the MusicKit for Intel?
Is it possible to play more than one sound in realtime -
realtime mixing - or just one soundfile at a time? (No use of the
possible 24 PCM voices under NS?)
Something known about the Audiotrix effects daughter board? I doubt,
that there is support from within the MSS driver, so there won't be any
use in purchasing it, as long it is solely used under NS. Right?
Currently I am trying to get a SoundGalaxy Pro16 to run. With the
jumper setting "EEPROM config" it does not boot (hanging on
Adaptec1740 init), with jumper set to "Software config" it does not
work and the parallel port cannot be used, though DMA, Port, and IRQ
do not conflict. Anybody an idea?
Thanks for answers,
- Lucas.
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Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: uwe@orchide.bb.bawue.de
Subject: HELP!! Scannerproblems on Black HW
Message-ID: <1994Aug27.151133.311@orchide.bb.bawue.de>
Sender: uwe@orchide.bb.bawue.de
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 15:11:33 GMT
Today I got a new Fujitsu ScanPartner 10. I tried to connect it to a
NeXT-Dimension Cube with the following configuration:
Internal HD Quantum 105MB (Swapdisk)
SCSI-ID 1
External HD DEC 3160 (Boot)
SCSI-ID 0
When I try to connect the scanner with or without an terminator in the
chain, I got the following messages on Bootup (usr/adm/messages):
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,1): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,1): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,2): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,2): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,3): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,3): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,4): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,4): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,5): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,5): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,6): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,6): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,7): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
Aug 27 16:15:02 orchide mach: s0 (2,7): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x2
I have tried all IDs from 2 to 6. I have also put the Scanner in the
middle of the chain, so that it is the first external device. Nothing
works! The Scanner is still ok on an INTEL. The same messages appeared on
a NeXT-Color Station with a 400MB internal HD and no external device.
Few weeks ago I had a Microtek Scanmaker 600 here, and this scanner was
also not identified on the scsi-bus. On Intel it works.
If I put other devices in the chain (Toshiba CD-ROM or HP-DAT) it works,
so the cable is ok.
Somebody could help me?
bis demNeXT Uwe
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 17:54:16 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Aug27.175416.21569@cyantic.com>
References: <8iL_bGK00iV0M2jGIy@andrew.cmu.edu> <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com>
In article <33ipqu$1af@panix2.panix.com> zone@panix.com (Alex Lee) writes:
>This is getting to be a religious battle. Lets stop and say that neither side
>is going to convince the other that their stuff is better.
Isn't comp.sys.next supposed to be defunct, and these messages posted to
one of the subgroups?
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1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: jjfox@shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't install NS3.2 on Conner CFA540A HD
Date: 27 Aug 1994 22:25:47 GMT
Organization: Jaytron Products Corporation
Message-ID: <33oehb$p2g@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <33le0q$76q@girtab.usc.edu>
In article <33le0q$76q@girtab.usc.edu>, shiangli@girtab.usc.edu (Sonny Wu) says:
>
>Hi,
>
>Recently I tried to install NeXTSTEP 3.2 on my pc which
>is 486-DX33 VLB system. I have a 540MB IDE HD to be used for
>this. It seems that NeXTSTEP doesn't like this one. From
>time to time, the error message came out until installation
>stopped. When I tried to boot, the system panics..
>Is there anyone can give me any idea about this?
>
I have the same drive, and am experiencing the same problems. First,
NeXTstep doesn't support enhanced IDE drives (larger than 503MB). You
can try to work around this by going into your CMOS and changing the drive
size. Then, disable LBA or CHS translation (which enables DOS to access
drive space above 503MB). These were the measures suggested to me by
NeXT tech support. However, no matter what I tried, I have not been able to
get NeXTstep to install on the drive. After three weeks of trying, I have given
up, and am replacing it with a SCSI drive. IDE drives are incredibly inexpensive
($500 for a 1gb drive), but without support for Enhanced IDE in NeXTstep,
they are useless.
If anyone knows of a way to salvage this drive, or would like to purchase it from
me ($300), let me know.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Best VLB video board for OS/2 & NeXTstep?
Message-ID: <Cv7zB1.Aow@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 00:42:36 GMT
Subject line pretty much says it -- I'm wanting to run OS/2 and NeXTstep on
the same machine and haven't yet bought a VLB video board yet. From what I
can tell, the ET4000w32 ones work great on OS/2 and awful on NeXTstep, and
the ATI GUP works great on NeXTstep and awful on OS/2....
And as I understand it, S3 cards are slower in un-accelerated situations than
even a regular ISA ET4000 card (well, at least The 7th Guest manual says so,
but if that isn't really true....:-)
So anyway, emailed responses would be great. Price is an issue too...
--
Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@wittenberg.edu
"To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: johnc@idcube.idsoftware.com (John Carmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HPs color recovery
Date: 27 Aug 1994 21:06:38 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9408280258.AA19556@idcube.idsoftware.com>
meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE wrote:
>The sole difference between the 24-bit and the 8 bit mode under NS
>on the HP is in my opinion, that in 8 bit mode, color recovery is
>disabled, so that the resulting image is visually more coarse.
Not true. The information that I have seen from HP / artist seems to
suggest that, but under NEXTSTEP with color recovery the frame buffer
really is 32 bits/pixel.
I have mixed feelings about color recovery. It does make rendered
images look pretty good, but there are some artifacts, and I just
don't see the huge incentive to save $500 or so of vram on $10k+
systems.
Other than that, the 712/80s that we have are great. Fast, solid,
elegant systems.
I'm looking forward to NS 3.3 supporting the high end HP differential
fast wide scsi drives so we can sort of justify (well....) buying a
loaded 735/125 as a primary file/compile server.
John Carmack
Id Software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ISA SCSI Adapters
Message-ID: <Cv841H.Krs@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Cv4FFE.7v0@eskimo.com> <33miiu$4k0@rosie.next.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 02:24:53 GMT
Mark Bessey (mark_bessey@next.com) wrote:
: > If you have yet to commit yourself to a motherboard, Grettir, I would
: > urge you to reconsider. ISA-based motherboards do not map directly to
: > RAM beyond 16 MB, forcing the OS to do RAM paging(at a performance
: > cost) for references beyond that address line. EISA does not impose
: > such a limitation. If you must have a PCI motherboard, seek a
: > PCI/EISA system.
: Actually, no - you CAN use more than 16 MB of RAM in PCI/ISA systems, even
: in ISA/VLB systems. You WILL have problems with >64MB in ISA systems, at
: least with NEXTSTEP 3.2 ...
Thanks for pointing out the >64MB limitation, Mark. Please note that I
did not say NS cannot use >16MB on ISA systems.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Backing Out A Hard Disk Driver
Message-ID: <westesCv87xp.F1y@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 03:49:01 GMT
Let's say that I install a new hard disk driver for NS FIP 3.2 and
the driver does not work (for whatever reason). In this case I
might need to back out to the standard Adaptec hard disk driver that
comes with 3.2. How do I back out in the case where the system
refuses to boot because the new driver either does not work or is
misconfigured?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: 3.5-inch MO Drives
Message-ID: <Cv892x.7BG@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 04:13:44 GMT
I would like to hear from anyone successfully using 3.5-inch
magneto-optical drives with NS 3.2 FIP. I've been considering Ricoh,
Micro Design International, Panasonic's LF-3004, or Pinnacle's
Tahoe-230.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: ferng@irisserv (Ferng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: My NeXT won't power up, please help
Date: 28 Aug 1994 03:21:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan
Message-ID: <33ovsl$smq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
My NeXTstation died. I don't know what the problem is,
and I don't know what to do with it. I am anxious to
get it fixed, and need your kind help or suggestion.
The nightmare is this:
I turned on my NeXTstation one day, it started to reboot.
Everything looked like normal for 30 seconds, and then
the screen shut off, the computer went down in no time.
There was no power failure. But I can never turn it on
again. It just died.
What can I do? Thanks in advance for any response.
---ferng
ferng@helios.math.nctu.edu.tw
From: brien@ix.netcom.com (Brien Hutzler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Don't be afraid of the "White", be careful choosing your vendor!
Date: 28 Aug 1994 06:58:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33pcie$s2f@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
First of all let me say that this posting is not being made as to incite any flames!!! I hope
that this posting is inline with accepted "netiquette" and if it is not please forgive me. I just would
like to give people something to think about and to let you know a little about the company I work
for, Data Net.
With the demise of NeXTWORLD early this year and not having the budget of the
big boys like Dell, NCR, H-P and others, for advertising or certification by NeXT, we really do
not know how to let the community know about us, and following the postings in this and other related
newsgroups, I thought this might just be helpful. With this stated, here I go.
Next realizes the future is the Intel desktop, I believe that this is one of the major reasons they
got out of the hardware business, and please remember that all decisions are becoming business
decisions and not technology based decision. I remember working for another company that Mr.
Jobs started years ago, and we had a much different approach to the market and the developers
of both hardware and software, but, I guess those are the good old days. If Apple had same
approach in the early days of the Macintosh, (Remember the ad “See why 1984 won’t be like
1984”) no one would be worrying about object-oriented anything, this would be world with no
Windozes and hence no pains I guess, and a mouse would still just be a rodent!!!
We would love to work with individuals and companies who can provide
us with some assistance, based from your experience, with the particulars of NeXTSTEP. We
can provide the support and knowledge from a hardware stand point. Finally, maybe the last 4
years of dealing with Windozes market and the last nine years of manufacturing x86 based
systems can be put some good use . Who knows, maybe working together, we can make this a
much more viable market, even if Next doesn't have the bandwidth change the way it looks at
our businesses and their markets.
Maybe after all of everyones experiences over the last year or so, including our own, we will realize
that a computer systems is made up of hardware and software, that works together!!! If the
system does not work, the end users really don't care if it is a hardware problem or a software issue,
all they know is that is does not work. God I wish NeXT could or would comprehend this, if so I would not
have to take the time to write this.
Below is an example from just one posting of what we need to work together on!
Issue #1:
>> > No, we 90MHz owners (hi Kris, hi Eric) suffer from a variety of other
>> > problems, also including the heat problems. Not all of the heat inside
>> > these cases comes from the CPU. As far as I can tell, the EtherExpress
>> > throws quite a bit of heat, and the hard disk definitely throws much
Cheap cases are often poorly designed and do not provide the ability
to add additional cool fans to increase air circulation throughout the chassis!
Regarding the placement of components, a little intelligence can a long way toward
alleviating the heat problems. As you may or not be aware there are differences between the
Pentium 60 & 66 family and the 90 & 100 family. One of them is a physical size difference.
Next time you have an opportunity to look at a Dell 90MHz Pentium machine, my experience is
with their EISA/PCI implementation, take a close look at the CPU. If possible, remove the
processor and attempt to place it in the Intel motherboard. You will find that it doesn't fit. The
90/100 are smaller, lower voltage requirements, and operate cooler the 60/66 family. I can not
say that they are not 90MHz processors, they might just be from and older generation of the Intel line.
This is the only logical explanation I can come up with. I am still searching for answers to this question from Intel.
But this may explain the heat problems that people have written about.
Issue # 2
>> OK, so my DELL XPS90 has no such problems. (Unfortunately, it does not
>> have the NCR chip on-board; it needs to go thru an extra card.) It comes
>> with a 30-day money-back guarantee, and one can cheaply buy a 3-year
>> on-site warranty. How much better can it get?
A lot, we offer a 30-day money-back guarantee along with a 4 year on-site warranty in
North America, I am not going to attempt all the legalize surrounding the particulars of the on-site program
in this posting, but there will be locations that do not qualify for this on-site warranty program. Sorry
but I gotta take what GE gives me! If you are interested and want to know if you area is within their coverage, just
ask and I’ll check with GE for conformation.
Issue #3:
>Well, you're forgetting the major bad thing with PCs: they're
>non-deterministic :-). You have a good one, be happy! 75% of those
>I've worked with (with clients and in our office) are sucky.
After reading some of the prior postings, and comments like the one above, from people who
shopped around with price being the major deciding factor as to what hardware to buy from what
vendor, maybe, after you get that really low price, ask yourself, “does this vendor stand a
chance in Hell of supporting this system and NeXTSTEP? I do not think that anyone in this
market would be dealing with companies like Xenon if they asked themselves this question.
Xenon for example will tell you that you are on your own with any NeXTSTEP issues, kinda
reminds of those Toyota commercials “O what a feeling”. I do not believe that any software
professional would want to sit on the floor with an open computer chassis and a mass amount of
profanities flying around the room, just to try to get the system operational, when there are viable
alternatives Not to mention all the unproductive and non revenue generating time that one
would waste!!!
Issue #4:
>BTW, if you have time, measure your disk performance with DiskPerformance.app
>or the byte benchmarks. My P/90 with NCR PCI SCSI card can only write
>files at 435kb/sec (this is with a fast SCSI-II hard disk) which clocks
>in far below black mono slow SCSI I. The writes should be at least three
>times faster than this.
This is because the write cache on you hard drive is probably disabled, especially seeing as how
this is the state that most manufacturers ship their drives set to. There is a
way to enable the write cache after purchase, unfortunately though at this time I believe that this
requires reformatting.
Sincerely,
Brien
brien@eclipse.com
brien@ix.netcom.com
P.S. I hope this can provide push towards solutions for people regarding hardware platforms, so
you folks can get back to doing what pays your bills, software development.
I would just like to say thanks to everyone who has been active in this forum trying to help people.
It is nice to see folks giving support to others without having a support contract # or credit card # ready at all times.
“The only people who don’t make mistakes, are people who don’t do anything”
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Don't be afraid of the "White", be careful choosing your vendor!
Date: 28 Aug 1994 14:53:11 GMT
Organization: RGNET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33q8cn$4qm@pop0.rain.rg.net>
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> Issue #4:
> >BTW, if you have time, measure your disk performance with
DiskPerformance.app
> >or the byte benchmarks. My P/90 with NCR PCI SCSI card can only write
> >files at 435kb/sec (this is with a fast SCSI-II hard disk) which clocks
> >in far below black mono slow SCSI I. The writes should be at least
three
> >times faster than this.
>
> This is because the write cache on you hard drive is probably disabled,
especially seeing as how
> this is the state that most manufacturers ship their drives set to.
There is a
> way to enable the write cache after purchase, unfortunately though at
this time I believe that this
> requires reformatting.
In regards to the performance when using the NCR PCI SCSI card, I don't
think it has anything to do with the write cache being enabled or
disabled. It may. For most people like myself, before the NCR soulution
was available I myself was running a DPT 2021 ISA SCSI controller and the
write performace was almost twice as fast as it is now using the excact
same HD.
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Seagate Warranty?
Message-ID: <Cv7sJv.CEI@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <33eckv$h6u@convex.cc.uky.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 22:16:42 GMT
In article <33eckv$h6u@convex.cc.uky.edu> soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward)
writes:
|
| We've got a bunch of NSTCs with Seagate ST3283N 250M drives...these drives have
| been dropping like flies...NeXT replaced the first few, but now we are out of
| the normal NeXT warranty period...does anyone know if Seagate warranties these
| drives for > 1 year?
|
| thanx,
| --
| John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
| University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
| soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
Hi John,
I think you should forget the whole story. I got infos from several
people that this drive has a bug in the logical controller logic.
They really dropped like flies.
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Premiere/PCI II Pentium/90 install problems with large IDE.
Date: 28 Aug 1994 14:43:08 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <33qlrs$ip5@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Aug23.023450.29928@nosc.mil>
Thomas Bell (bell@nosc.mil) wrote:
: I'm trying (and trying...and trying) to install NextStep 3.2 on a new
: Premiere/PCI II (Intel) Pentium/90 motherboard with a 1 gig IDE disk. Intel
: states that the board supports extended IDE drives but I keep getting mangled
: entries and kernel panics when the installer tries to format the disk.
: I have the latest BIOS upgrade from Intel (ver 1.00.08.AX1Z).
: Has anyone else encountered or found a solution to this problem?
: Tom Bell
Unfortunetely, NeXTstep doesn't support Enhanced IDE drives (larger than 503
MB) I have a 540MB drive, and am experiencing the same problems. According
to NeXT tech support, 3.3 won't support these drives either. If you need
a drive larger than 500MB, you're stuck with SCSI.
From: gregan@ids.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 94 09:52:46 GMT
Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST [telnet ids.net]
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33qmj7$121@paperboy.ids.net>
References: ,<312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In Article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark) writes:
>After a clean shutdown over the weekend, all my poor old color station can
>say at boot time is "Waiting for device to come ready . . . "
>
>This is a model with an internal 105M drive, no other SCSI peripherals.
>Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
>
>Charles Clark
>
I'm having more or less the same problem. My internal SCSI
never comes ready. I've got an external drive, so I can just
boot off that. I can see in the NeXT Mach Operating System
monitor window on boot that it waits a while for the internal
drive to come ready, but it never does. It can even report
back on what's there: a Quantum PD210S. When I turn off the
external drive to boot off the internal, it doesn't report the
name of the drive--it just sits there waiting to come ready,
printing out that sad-looking trail of dots. One other piece
of information: when I take off the NeXTstation cover, so that
I can see the drive, and when I try to boot, there's a green
LED that keeps slowing flashing.
Anyway, I too need to know if there are any tricks to try, or
if I'm just hosed. Thanx in advance.
Greg Arzoomanian
gregan@ids.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Fastest EISA Throughput?
Message-ID: <westesCv9n3D.47H@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 22:14:01 GMT
What is the fastest throughput in megabytes per second that anyone
has recorded on an EISA SCSI host adapter using NS 3.2 FIP? Using
DrivePerformance.App, I get only 900K/sec write and 1300K/sec read
with a Buslogic 747S using the 32-bit driver that Buslogic recently
released. Even Buslogic says that this is well below the
1800-2000K/sec that the card is capable of doing.
I'm ready to give up on Buslogic with NS FIP 3.2. Is there anyone
out there who has recorded a higher throughput with any EISA SCSI
host adapter?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: moto@cs.cmu.edu (Motonori Shindou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SIMM for NeXTstation mono
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 28 Aug 1994 22:46:48 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MOTO.94Aug28184652@GS81.cs.cmu.edu>
Hi,
I have just got a NeXTstation mono (serial number below ABB 002 6300)
without any SIMMs installed. According to the NeXT-Hardware-RAM-FAQ,
30pin 70ns 4MB 9-chip SIMM can be used, but I got an exception error
with such RAMs when the machine boots up. It goes OK with (80ns?) 1MB
8-chip SIMM. Can I really use SIMMs with a parity bit for NeXTstation?
--
===
Motonori Shindou
CMU SCS Graduate Student
e-mail: moto@cs.cmu.edu
NiftyServe: GEG04056
TEL: 412-362-9636
FAX: 412-362-9634
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Subject: BusLogic VLB SCSI Card?
Message-ID: <Cv9yty.BK@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 02:27:33 GMT
Is anyone using this card? How well does it perform? Does anyone have any
DrivePerformace output that they could send me?
My 486DX/50 machine at home has a VLB/ISA motherboard. It has 2 VLB
slots; one occupied by my ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, the other free.
I am concerned about whether the VL-Bus can handle two cards that are so
heavily loaded.
My main question is whether the BusLogic 445S is worth it over just
having an ISA Adaptec card on my system.
FYI: The card will be running a drive of about 1GB or so.
Email any opinions/experiences, and I will summarize.
Thanks in advance...
--Chris
Chris Saldanha | "Stay Alive.
Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | Sixty-Five Grand.
chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Feed the hole."
csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | -Jack Grimaldi, Romeo is Bleeding
From: bill@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Alternative monitor for monoTurbo?
Date: 28 Aug 1994 21:16:02 -0700
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <33rne2$7al@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
I'm interested in dragging my slab to
far ends of the earth, and don't have a lot
of reason to take the monitor. Can I use
other monitors with the monoTurbo, and
what would I have to do cabling and configuration-
wise.
Thankss,
bill
--
Bill Eldridge
bill@lifesci.ucla.edu SysAdmins have big disks.
310-206-3960
310-206-3987 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NeXT Printer to PC
Message-ID: <Cv9JvL.2CB@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <33j14q$crd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 21:04:32 GMT
In article <33j14q$crd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
sayeap@vitalstatistix.mis.commerce.ubc.ca (Soon Aun Yeap) writes:
#Hi ... can anyone tell me if it is possible to hook up a NeXT printer to a
#PC. I am experimenting with a Toshiba notebook through the serial port
#using a null-modem cable but without any success so far. Someone mentioned
#several posts back that a Next printer will only work with a NeXT machine.
#Any advice will be greatly appreciated :-)
Forget it.
The NeXT printer will only work with a NeXT.
Kent
--
/* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */
/* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 29 Aug 1994 00:40:41 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <33ros9$9fi@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory and information server, built around
the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia
announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability
to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://www.stepwise.com/
or
http://digifix.digifix.com/
using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic.
If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you
access to the server as well.
The entries currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
- User Group locations
- Mailing List archives and information
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is
available. You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
news://comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
news://comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
news://comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
news://comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
news://comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news://comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
news://comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
news://comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news://comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news://comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp,
or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
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INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-848-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
and Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: RE: "Waiting for device to come ready . . ."
Date: 29 Aug 1994 06:11:49 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33ru75$8is@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <33qmj7$121@paperboy.ids.net>
In article <33qmj7$121@paperboy.ids.net> gregan@ids.net writes:
> In Article <312jli$9tg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
> cwc@wam.umd.edu (Charles Winthrop Clark) writes:
> >After a clean shutdown over the weekend, all my poor old color station can
> >say at boot time is "Waiting for device to come ready . . . "
> >
> >This is a model with an internal 105M drive, no other SCSI peripherals.
> >Are there any tricks I should try before calling Bell Atlantic ?
> >
> >Charles Clark
> >
> I'm having more or less the same problem. My internal SCSI
> never comes ready. I've got an external drive, so I can just
> boot off that. I can see in the NeXT Mach Operating System
> monitor window on boot that it waits a while for the internal
> drive to come ready, but it never does.
..
> Anyway, I too need to know if there are any tricks to try, or
> if I'm just hosed. Thanx in advance.
> Greg Arzoomanian
> gregan@ids.net
The drive is likely "stuck" - an infamous problem with the Quantums.
The mechanics have little rubber pads on the heads which were designed
to grab the platter when powered off (kind of disklock for shipping...)
At any rate, the materal degenerates, and becomes softer, leading to
increasingly more negative coefficient of friction when hot and the
drive is powered off :-). This ultimately leads to the drive power
supply not having enough oomf to cold-start the spinup sequence.
Try the following:
1) remove the drive, seal it in a plastic freezer bag, and place
it in your freezer compartment for about 1/2 hour or so. This will
harden the degenerated material, and hopefully thus reduce it's
grab on the platter.
2) stick it back in the cube/station (after waiting a bit for the
condensation to dissipate), power everything up, and see if the
disk now spins.
3) if it does not, give the side of the disk chassis a short sharp
tap with the handle of a screwdriver (sometimes this jars the
head arm enough to get it unsuck and free the platter to spinup).
4) If it does spin up, try archiving everything you can off the
disk (i.e. dump to tape, or to a compressed dump file on disk if
you have room, or to a OM floppy).
5) make plans to replace the drive, preferably ASAP. It will
eventually give you the same problem later on.
--
James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab
Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway 2000 P5-90 Keyboard Mapping problem
Message-ID: <1994Aug29.003401.7787@ivax>
From: rsanchez@iupui.edu ()
Date: 29 Aug 94 00:34:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Office of Integrated Technologies
I have a Gateway 2000 P5-90 machine with the following
configuration:
32 megs of RAM
Adaptec 1542C SCSI Adapter
Toshiba 3401 CDROM
PS2 Logitech mouseman and a PS2 IBM keyboard(101)
Seagate 330Mg harddrive
Whenever I use the insert, home, page up, delete, end, and
page down keys, I get some weird ascii characters such as
/,1 instead of the appropriate key function. I tried the
keymapping utility provided in the /NextDeveloper/Demos
directory but it still does not work properly.
Please post any appropriate recommendation or mail me at
rsanchez@indyunix.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Best VLB video board for OS/2 & NeXTstep?
Message-ID: <CvA7t9.LCw@eskimo.com>
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Cv7zB1.Aow@fragile.termfrost.org>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 05:41:32 GMT
Mike Andrews (kramer@fragile.termfrost.org) wrote:
: And as I understand it, S3 cards are slower in un-accelerated situations than
: even a regular ISA ET4000 card (well, at least The 7th Guest manual says so,
: but if that isn't really true....:-)
You might wish to consider Number Nine's GXE line.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Performance of mono stations with increased ram?
Message-ID: <1994Aug28.233252.25869@cc.usu.edu>
From: ccall@fiziks.physics.usu.edu (Clayton Call)
Date: 28 Aug 94 23:32:51 MDT
I am running an older mono station (25Mhz 8/200 with NS 3.2) and would like to
hear from anyone who has upgraded their ram to 20 or 32 Mb. More specifically,
I would like to know how the extra ram affects such things as disk swapping and
also the overall feel of the machine with say three or four open apps
including some memory hogs such as Mathematica.
I know that people will tell me it depends on what apps I run,
but basically I'm just looking to get a little better feel for how the
machine performs with the extra ram.
Since I have an older Station, I would need 30 pin simms to upgrade, and
since most new machines don't use these I don't want to spend the $$ if
it isn't worth it. Any comments or anecdotes regarding this would
be greatly appreciated,as would any information about how and where
to purchase ram.
Thanks in advance,
clayton
ccall@fiziks.physics.usu.edu
From: chris@hi5.ikp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Christoph M Zoeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q]: Repairing/low-level-formatting SCSI hard disk - how to?
Date: 29 Aug 1994 11:57:56 GMT
Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33sig4$avs@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
Keywords: scsi hard disk format
Hi everybody!
I have an external (not my boot disk) 660 MB Fujitsu harddisk gone bad on
me. When booting, fsck reports media errors in block 190h, retries 9
times, then quits, and I get placed in single user mode.
- Is there a way to get around fsck and recover whatever is accessible on
this disk?
- How can I low level format the disk under NS? Will this "fix" it, or is
it likely that the disk is damaged beyond repair/being_trustworthy?
Any help appreciated!
Thanks,
Chris
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISA Video for NS
Date: 29 Aug 1994 11:53:06 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <33si72$4jk@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <dalCv5MCK.4rL@netcom.com> <33m6ur$l0l@dolphin.phoenix.net>
Mark Wauchope (mgw@wauchope.phoenix.net) wrote:
: In article <dalCv5MCK.4rL@netcom.com> dal@netcom.com (Dana Andre Letendre)
: writes:
: > Does anyone know which ISA video cards are compatible with NS
: > at 1152x842 16bit color? There don't seem to be any in the
: > HW compat guide.
: That's because NeXTSTEP FIP doesn't support any ISA video cards. VLBus,
: PCI and EISA are the only bus architectures supported in 16bit color.
Definitely wrong. Some months ago I ran NSfIP 3.2 on an plain ISA system
with a miro 8 s ISA graphics card with 1MB DRAM in 800x600 at 16bit
color. It just worked. And it was not _that_ slow (compared to the VL
version of the miro 8s).
In the meantime, I think there are even some ISA cards that work with
NSfIP in higher resolutions @16bit color (with >=2MB DRAM). If you want
to be sure, don't rely on the HW compat guide (it's often misleading),
but download the README files to the according drivers from NeXTanswers.
They are probably more reliable.
On the it's probably no that reasonable to use an expensive >=2MB card in
an ISA version. If you want to get better graphics, you should pay the
few bucks more for a VL or PCI board an get an according card.
Gregor
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ISA SCSI Adapters
Date: 29 Aug 1994 12:27:10 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <33sk6u$4jk@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <33gd9c$kl2@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <Cv4FFE.7v0@eskimo.com>
Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
: urge you to reconsider. ISA-based motherboards do not map directly to
: RAM beyond 16 MB, forcing the OS to do RAM paging(at a performance
: cost) for references beyond that address line. EISA does not impose
: such a limitation. If you must have a PCI motherboard, seek a
: PCI/EISA system.
Hmm. I don't think it's true that way. The processor is able to access
the memory without paging. Only the ISA bus (i.e. where disk controller,
graphic cards etc. are connected) suffers from a 24bit wide address bus
(16MB). The most important consequence is that DMA transfers can only be
made in the lowest 16MB of the main memory. Therefore the OS has to be
quite clever about buffering disk transfers in this lower part of memory,
and performance losses are guarenteed.
Since modern multi tasking OS's for PCs (I count e.g. Linux and NEXTSTEP
to them) are aware of the fact that more and
more users have more than 16MB, this technique is quite mature (not to
say that's not nevertheless braindead ;-). As counter example, Unixware
did always map the disk buffers at the top of the available memory. If
there was more than 16MB, there was a problem ;-)
With other words, only bus transfers are affected by the ISA bus
limitation, but not the memory interface. A PCI/ISA system without any
ISA cards should therefore perform as well as an PCI/EISA system.
Gregor
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| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
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| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus/NCR SCSI Driver Questions.
Date: 29 Aug 1994 13:10:15 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <33smnn$msr@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <33fjb0$1pg@werple.apana.org.au>
In article <33fjb0$1pg@werple.apana.org.au> hunter@werple.apana.org.au
(James Gardiner) writes:
>
> Where can I get these NCR drivers for nextstep?
From us, or from one of our resellers.
> Do they support the fast wire version of the PCI SCSI-2 card?
The card works, but doesn't actually push wide data yet. It will, once a
couple other projects finished up. Our head programmer can only do so
much, unfortunately.
> What makes buying the Mother board so important and the Bios?
> How do I know I am buying the right hardware?
Some iterations of BIOS do not fully support the standard, including
protected mode PCI (notably Phoenix, and ver. 4 and 9 of AMIBIOS for the
Plato board).
> Nextstep does support multiple SCSI controllers. I could run 2 PCI
> SCSI-2 fast wide controllers at the same time? yes?
Not under 3.2, if ever. The hardware talks at expo led me to believe that
this is _not_ supported, but the improved PCI support under 3.3 may help.
> Its for a Server.
>
>
> James
Dan
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
info@talus.com
From: taweil@aludra.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI Video and SCSI for NeXTSTEP
Date: 29 Aug 1994 07:54:27 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: taweil@aludra.usc.edu
Message-ID: <33ssr3$edq@aludra.usc.edu>
Hi,
I am putting together a PC to run NeXTSTEP. I'd like to know that what
PCI Video and SCSI cards are supported by NeXTSTEP/FIP. It seems that
NeXT's hardware compatibility guide doesn't cover the drivers from
third-party. Any information and experience with the cards are
appreciated.
--
Ta-Wei "David" Li
UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California
Member, League for Programming Freedom
"Innovate, don't litigate."
From: basso@patpserv.epfl.ch (Andrea Basso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] SEGATE ST-3600N NeXT compatibility
Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:13:59 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Sender: basso@patpserv (Andrea Basso)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33stvn$f7r@info.epfl.ch>
Hello,
is the Segate ST-3600N HD (525MB) compatible with NeXTstations?
Someone had experiences with this drive?
Please reply to
basso@ltssun4.epfl.ch
Thanks
-Andrea
From: calderd@hookup.net (Richard Lacelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WORM Drive with NeXTSTEP
Date: 29 Aug 1994 15:31:49 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <33sv15$12s@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Keywords: worm,optical,next
Hi,
I have a Panasonic LF-5000 WORM Drive SCSI, I am using a SCSI DPT2022 card
which support this model of drives. My question is, what software can I
use under NeXTSTEP to write (once) to the WORM and then mount the drive?
I have never tried to use a WORM before. Could someone help me out please.
Richard Lacelle
Phoenix Systems Synectics, Inc
calderd@hookup.net
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Performance of mono stations with increased ram?
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 11:11:34 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <giMTea_00iV782IAx8@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Aug28.233252.25869@cc.usu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Aug-94 Performance of
mono station.. by Clayton Call@fiziks.phys
> I am running an older mono station (25Mhz 8/200 with NS 3.2) and would like
> to hear from anyone who has upgraded their ram to 20 or 32 Mb. More
> specifically, I would like to know how the extra ram affects such things as
> disk swapping and also the overall feel of the machine with say three or
> four open apps including some memory hogs such as Mathematica.
You will notice a huge difference between 8 and 20 MB of RAM,
particularly under NEXTSTEP 3.x. Running Mma under 20 MB is going to be
much better then under 8 MB.
You can get the relative amount of paging and swapping your system is
doing via the 'vm_stat' command. Compare the ratio of Pageouts to
"Translation faults". I average around 1:1000 or so (over an average
uptime of ~2 weeks); if you don't get at least 1:100, your system
definitely will give better performance with more memory.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...."
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: jpg1@u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ultrastor 34F SCSI controller
Date: 29 Aug 1994 17:07:39 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <33t4kr$6d2@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <33avgr$9vm@magus.cs.utah.edu>
larsen@lal.cs.utah.edu (Steve Larsen) writes:
>Does anyone have this controller working or know if it is supported?
I have a 34F and tried it with NS 3.1 last fall...no luck. Since the
34F hasn't appeared in the NeXT compatability guide yet, I doubt that
it would work now, either. Right now I'm using an AHA-1542, but I've
been holding onto my Ultrastor in the hopes that it eventually does
get supported...I hate using an ISA card when I have a perfectly good
VLB slot open.
--Jeff Gardner
gardner@astro.washington.edu
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Device Driver available ?
Date: 29 Aug 1994 18:19:32 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <94Aug29.111636@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello netters.
I'm considering buying a Pentium PCI system and wondering
if device drivers for
1) ATI Graphics Pro Turbo PCI
2) Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller
are available. Please send me an e-mail to park@isl.stanford.edu
Thanks in advance.
--- Sang Ju Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mmanning@meretrx.com (Michael Manning)
Subject: ? video drivers for NEC Versa 75EC
Message-ID: <1994Aug29.180251.3967@meretrx.com>
Sender: mmanning@meretrx.com
Organization: Meretrx, Inc.
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 18:02:51 GMT
Are video drivers available now, from any source, that will drive the
NEC Versa 75EC external monitor at the 1024 X 768 8bit that the
hardware is capable of? Are the 3.3 pseudo color drives going to
support the higher res also, or just 640 X 480 on the flat panel?
Michael Manning
mmanning@meretrx.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: shalla@moose.uvm.edu (Susan E. Halla)
Subject: Inexpensive Pentium for NS/FIP wanted!!!!
Message-ID: <1994Aug29.190259.19605@emba.uvm.edu>
Sender: news@emba.uvm.edu
Organization: EMBA Computer Facility, University of Vermont
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:02:59 GMT
I was weaned on a NeXT slab and brought into the wonderful world of NeXT,
and now, since my slab has gone away, I want to get into NEXTSTEP. I had
the nightmare experience of having to use Windows (oh my God) this summer
and NEED to get back to a REAL OS.
I would like a 60 mHz Pentium, 16 meg RAM, 540 meg drive, CD ROM, etc.
that will run NEXTSTEP decently, but is affordable to a Grad student like
me. I've talked to DELL, (my lowest price), but does anyone know any
off-name or other companies who have systems for around $2500 or less?
Also...I'm looking into an HP 4P 600 dpi printer...does anyone know if I
need a PostScript card, or will NS image it?
Susan Halla
shalla@moose.uvm.edu
P.S. Be nice to me...this is my first posting, and probably not my last
if I get into NS...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: WORM Drive with NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CvB9KK.62A@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <33sv15$12s@nic.ott.hookup.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:17:07 GMT
In article <33sv15$12s@nic.ott.hookup.net> calderd@hookup.net (Richard Lacelle)
writes:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Panasonic LF-5000 WORM Drive SCSI, I am using a SCSI DPT2022 card
> which support this model of drives. My question is, what software can I
> use under NeXTSTEP to write (once) to the WORM and then mount the drive?
>
> I have never tried to use a WORM before. Could someone help me out please.
Try turning off the NeXT, plug in the WORM drive, and reboot.
If it doesn't "just work," you're probably screwed... at least, from my limited
understanding.
I've seen both WORM and Erasable-Opticals using the Ten-X optical i'face "just
work" on NeXTS, including drag'n'drop on the recycler for eject of disk, but
then the Ten-X is an extremely clever, well-written, and flawless
implementation of SCSI.
--
personal opinions
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4M Plus network laser printer installation
Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:57:01 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <33teid$arj@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <33n19p$pon@nic-nac.CSU.net>
In article <33n19p$pon@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
writes:
> In article <33gkid$aip@agate.berkeley.edu>
> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> >I used bootpd stuff just set the IP address for the printer.
> >Test page shows the Ethernet address of the interface, so
> >you just have to use that number just as you set up
> >NetInfo clients.
> >
> >Then, you can just telnet to the standard telnet port (not 9100)
> >which allows you to set IP address, net mask, default gateway,
> >and syslog host address. (This may require newere JetDirect
> >MIO sold after May 1, 1994, specifically J255xA series card.
> >J27xxA series JetDirect is the older version.)
>
> I was able to set up a new HP LaserJet 4M Plus without using BOOTP
> at all by adding a temporary IP route to the "bogus" IP address
> from the test page (this is described in an appendix to the
> JetDirect manual, but their example was subtly wrong), an ARP
> entry for its hardware address, and telnetting to the "bogus" IP
> address. Once the proper IP address is stored, the ARP entry
> and route can go away.
>
> -=EPS=-
You can also manually set the IP, broadcast, syslog and netmask info from
the HP's control panel, although it isn't documented in their manuals.
(HP even admitted this to me!)
Take the system off-line, and toggle to the MIO Menu.
Toggle through the MIO menu by using the Item/Continue key until you get
the CFG Network option.
You'll note that the CFG Network option is set to NO; change to YES by
first using the +/- key, which changes NO to YES, then the Enter key,
which will mark the YES value with an "*". This will allow you to get to
the protocol sub-menus. (The CFG Network option will always be configured
to NO; you can't permanently change it.)
Toggle through the protocol sub-menus with the Item key until the CFG
TCP/IP menu comes up; it'll be set to NO. Change to YES as above. The
next sub menu will be for BOOTP, which should be set to YES. Change to
NO. The next menu items will ask for the first byte of the IP #; use the
+/- key and set the first part of the IP. This will continue for the rest
of the IP, then continue for the subnet mask, gateway and syslog host.
Make sure you "set" the numbers with the Enter key; an "*" appears, which
means the value will be saved when the system reboots.
Reboot the system. If you do a test page, you should get the proper
network info in the TCP/IP area of the test page.
The HP will respond to ping and telnet.
I found out about all this somewhat by accident, looked for corroborating
info in the manuals to no avail, then called HP to get more info. They
said this info isn't documented yet. The telerep was quite surprised
about it.
This is a nice feature; much better than using BOOTP, IMO.
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Doug Moore
Subject: Re: Performance of mono stations with increased ram?
Message-ID: <CvBEMA.JBr@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <1994Aug28.233252.25869@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:56:40 GMT
writes
| I am running an older mono station (25Mhz 8/200 with NS 3.2) and
would like to
| hear from anyone who has upgraded their ram to 20 or 32 Mb. More
specifically,
| I would like to know how the extra ram affects such things as disk
swapping and
| also the overall feel of the machine with say three or four open
apps
| including some memory hogs such as Mathematica.
|
| I know that people will tell me it depends on what apps I run,
| but basically I'm just looking to get a little better feel for how
the
| machine performs with the extra ram.
|
| Since I have an older Station, I would need 30 pin simms to
upgrade, and
| since most new machines don't use these I don't want to spend the
$$ if
| it isn't worth it. Any comments or anecdotes regarding this would
| be greatly appreciated,as would any information about how and where
| to purchase ram.
|
| Thanks in advance,
| clayton
| ccall@fiziks.physics.usu.edu
Don't ask---Just Do It...
--
Douglas Moore NeXT---FIX OUR SCSI DRIVER [BLACK] FOR SYNCRO MODE!!!
St Paul, MN
612-227-3274
dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
From: punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Different motherboards, effect on NS/FIP
Date: 29 Aug 1994 21:37:32 GMT
Organization: MSU KBS Lab
Sender: punch@sol (Bill Punch)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33tkes$qip@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <33j87f$mt5@styx.wsc.com> <33lal3$kbu@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Could some kind soul describe the differences between different
motherboards (Intel Premium, Intel Plato, etc) for those of us not yet
up to speed on such PC things. What affect do these differences have on
NeXTStep? Thanks for the help.
>>>bill punch<<<
punch@cps.msu.edu
From: wpmoyne@mit.edu (William Moyne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT on ThinkPad 750
Date: 30 Aug 1994 00:40:18 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <33tv5i$p06@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Can NeXTStep run on a IBM ThinkPad 750. Anyone with any luck here?
--thanks
--William (wpmoyne@mit.edu)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: Specs on Object Station
Date: 30 Aug 1994 03:05:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33u7l8$col@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <33le5e$l88@search01.news.aol.com>
In article <33le5e$l88@search01.news.aol.com> zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog)
writes:
> Will the cannon intel objecstation have any type of future
> processor upgrade ability??
Pentium.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Performance of mono stations with increased ram?
Date: 30 Aug 1994 03:14:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <33u86j$cq0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Aug28.233252.25869@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1994Aug28.233252.25869@cc.usu.edu> writes:
> I am running an older mono station (25Mhz 8/200 with NS 3.2)
> and would like to hear from anyone who has upgraded their
> ram to 20 or 32 Mb. More specifically, I would like to know
> how the extra ram affects such things as disk swapping and
> also the overall feel of the machine with say three or four
> open apps including some memory hogs such as Mathematica.
Huge improvement. Even when I bought a 32 MB colorstation as my primary
NeXT machine and sold some of the memory in my mono machine, I still did
not take the mono from 32 MB all the way down to 8 MB. I kept 16 MB in
it, just to get descent performance under light usage.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic VLB SCSI Card?
Date: 30 Aug 1994 03:56:43 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <33ualr$3h3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <Cv9yty.BK@cunews.carleton.ca>
In article <Cv9yty.BK@cunews.carleton.ca>,
Chris Saldanha <csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca> wrote:
>Is anyone using this card? How well does it perform? Does anyone have any
>DrivePerformace output that they could send me?
>
>My 486DX/50 machine at home has a VLB/ISA motherboard. It has 2 VLB
>slots; one occupied by my ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, the other free.
>I am concerned about whether the VL-Bus can handle two cards that are so
>heavily loaded.
>
>My main question is whether the BusLogic 445S is worth it over just
>having an ISA Adaptec card on my system.
>
>FYI: The card will be running a drive of about 1GB or so.
>
Briefly,
Gateway 4dx2-66v with Micropolis 2217s and 445s (both roms, both Next
and the "other" buslogic driver). 16 Megs 11nn x 8nn x16 resolution ATI XLR
Tested via DrivePerformance
IDE .4-.6 (ide drive of course)
1542c .9-1.2 (micropolis drive)
445s 1.8-1.9 "
The other buslogic driver is about 5% faster, but has a tape drive
bug (so does the Next driver, but things work w/o data loss).
Your mileage may vary (*figures from memory*).
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Buslogic driver won't shut down correctly
Message-ID: <westesCvC4tw.Hry@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 06:32:20 GMT
I recently installed the new 32-bit Buslogic drivers that NeXT wrote
and gave to Buslogic. I have a 747S EISA card. The drivers work,
although the increase in performance is pretty trivial (<10%). But
what I am noticing is that after a day of heavy use, if I shutdown
the system, it will get to the point right before it writes the
normal "It's safe to shut off the system" message and then it hangs.
I end up having to shut the system off before the file system has
been marked clean, and I must then endure a lengthy disk check the
next time I power on.
What could cause the disk driver to hang just before shutting down?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fastest EISA Throughput?
Date: 29 Aug 1994 07:58:14 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <33s0u6$5kl@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <westesCv9n3D.47H@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>What is the fastest throughput in megabytes per second that anyone
>has recorded on an EISA SCSI host adapter using NS 3.2 FIP? Using
>DrivePerformance.App, I get only 900K/sec write and 1300K/sec read
>with a Buslogic 747S using the 32-bit driver that Buslogic recently
>released. Even Buslogic says that this is well below the
>1800-2000K/sec that the card is capable of doing.
You should have told us which drive you use.
I get about 1500 KB/s read+write with a DEC DSP3053L and about 1000-1100 KB/s
with an IBM 0662S12, both attached to a DPT 2022 EISA controller.
--
!!! New mail address !!! mow@marsu.s.bawue.de !!! New mail address !!!
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
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From: wlod@MCS.COM (Steve Wlodkowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fastest EISA Throughput?
Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:46:02 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet!
Message-ID: <33uo3q$scd@Mercury.mcs.com>
References: <westesCv9n3D.47H@netcom.com>
Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
: Using
: DrivePerformance.App, I get only 900K/sec write and 1300K/sec read
: with a Buslogic 747S using the 32-bit driver that Buslogic recently
: released. Even Buslogic says that this is well below the
: 1800-2000K/sec that the card is capable of doing.
DPT PM2022 with latest NS driver - 820K/sec write, 1080K/sec read...
but doesn't the type of disk you're using factor into the numbers?
--
--Steve Wlodkowski
wlod@mcs.com
From: federico@heinz.com (Federico Heinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: is there any concensus on using the darn parallel port?!?!?!!
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:04:53 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Aug29.190453.21721@heinz.com>
References: <33dsa4$akt@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
Organization: Federico Heinz Consulting
Sender: usenet@heinz.com
In article <33dsa4$akt@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick
Kline) writes:
> I'm trying valiantly to get some info from next about
> what is on the printer cdrom, but so far after two calls
> no one can tell me anything. I will now try to call
> developer support. Of course, they won't be able to tell
> me anything either.
I think maybe some clarification is in order. They probably won't be able to
tell you what's on that CD-ROM because there *is* no such CD-ROM. The
"printer package for Intel" NeXT will sell you does not contain any software
whatsoever, nor is it embodied on any CD-ROM, diskette or anything alike.
What those $75 will buy you is just the *right* to use the Window Server's
PostScript interpreter to render bitmaps that are to be output on other
devices than the screen or a fax modem. I'm paraphrasing, of course. The
actual legalese version of the issue is way too tangled for me to understand,
but I'd bet that it has as many holes as my paraphrasing.
Several points stand out:
- you need the license *and* a driver to print. The license alone will not
do anything for you besides keeping the lawyers off your back.
- you *must* purchase the printing license, one way or other, no matter
which driver you use, PD or commercial, to rightfully print on
non-PostScript printers when running NEXTSTEP on intel machines (except
for GhostScript, of course)
- you do not need the license, though, if the printer driver runs on
a Motorola box, regardless of where the print jobs originate (in other
words, old NeXTs don't need an extra license to work as a print server
for non-PostScript printers, the clients don't need a license).
I still don't know whether the $75 are bound to a processor (that is, you may
drive any number of printers as long as they are all connected to the same
computer) or to a printer (i.e. you must pay $75 per printer, regardless of
the computer that drives it). Has anybody been able to decipher that from the
license text's gibberish?
Federico Heinz
DISCLAIMER: we make the commercial printer driver Dots, so maybe you can
figure which solution we would suggest :-), but the info in this posting is
about as neutral as I could manage.
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From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: 90 Mhz Pentium: Intel Plato vs. Micronics?
Message-ID: <1994Aug30.094735.13059@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 09:47:35 GMT
Hi,
We have an offer for a 90 Mhz Pentium based Intel Plato and a Micronics board.
Any experiences running NEXTSTEP on them?
Thanks!
Andreas
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From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fastest EISA Throughput?
Date: 30 Aug 1994 14:57:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <33vhd0$nln@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <westesCv9n3D.47H@netcom.com>
Will Estes writes
<What is the fastest throughput in megabytes per second that anyone
<has recorded on an EISA SCSI host adapter using NS 3.2 FIP? Using
<DrivePerformance.App, I get only 900K/sec write and 1300K/sec read
<with a Buslogic 747S using the 32-bit driver that Buslogic recently
<released. Even Buslogic says that this is well below the
<1800-2000K/sec that the card is capable of doing.
<
<I'm ready to give up on Buslogic with NS FIP 3.2. Is there anyone
<out there who has recorded a higher throughput with any EISA SCSI
<host adapter?
<
<--
<Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
Hi Will,
Here are the figures for a:
486/66 EISA/VLB , 32MB RAM,
DPT 2022 EISA SCSI controller/ no on-board cache
Micropolis 2210 / 3.5" 1GB SCSI drive
Write 1.9 1445 kb/sec
Read .9 855 kb/sec
Index 1.39
Interesting that your read numbers are higher than writes and mine are
the reverse; Is there a bug in some version of DrivePerformance.app?
I'm using v1.1.
--
Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team
Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome)
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Info on 90MHz Pentium motherboards
Message-ID: <1994Aug30.145250.3686@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:52:50 GMT
After seeing all of these questions about 90MHz Pentium motherboards, I thought
I'd summarize my experiences so that other people can avoid the problems that
I've had. So far I know of at least 5 different P90 motherboards:
Super P54VL-PCI:
This board is a combo PCI/VL-Bus board with 3 PCI, 5 ISA/2VL-Bus slots.
Unfortunately the OPTi chipset used to drive the busses has a problem with the
PCI bus. It inserts extra wait states on the PCI bus causing any PCI card to
operate very slowly. Video performance with a Diamond Stealth 64 w/4MB VRAM is
dismal (NXBench 2.0 - .70). AVOID THIS BOARD IF YOU PLAN TO USE THE PCI BUS.
As far as I know, the OPTi is the only chipset for P90 systems that support
both PCI and VL-Busses, so there may also be other VL/PCI motherboards that use
it. You would be well advised to stay away from those as well.
Intel Premier II-PCI (aka Plato):
This board has 3 PCI and 5 ISA slots with one being a shared slot (so
you really only have 7 total slots). It uses the Intel Neptune chipset.
Unfortunately it appears that there are problems with the PCI implementation on
SOME of these motherboards. I know of at least three people (including myself)
who have problems with this board in NEXTSTEP. The problem is that sometimes
under NEXTSTEP, the WindowServer will crash, effectively logging the user out.
My system vendor was able to reproduce this problem, but has not tested enough
boards to be able to quantify the problem (i.e. hopefully to a particular
revision of the board). Additionally I have problems with this board under
DOS/Windows as well. I get random crashes and reboots. (Note: these problems
are definitely NOT heat or memory related.). There was an article in the Aug
15 edition of Info Week that reported on a problem with the current crop of P90
motherboards, singling out the Intel Neptune chipset. My guess is that it is a
problem with a particular revision of the chipset and or motherboard. Once the
bugs are worked out, this will probably be the best choice for NEXTSTEP. My
advice is to get this board if you can be guaranteed that you can return it if
there is a problem. The latest revision of the BIOS (1.00.08AX1) does include
support for the NCR-based PCI SCSI controllers, and although some people have
had problems getting the controller (using Talus drivers) to work under
NEXTSTEP, I haven't had a problem.
Micronics P90 motherboard (model #: ?):
I don't have any experience with this one. I've been told that the
BIOS doesn't have support for the NCR SCSI controllers (or any protected mode
PCI BIOS'). Anybody use this one successfully with NEXTSTEP?
ASUS single P90 motherboard (model #: ?):
This board has 4 EISA / 4 PCI slots. I'm pretty sure the BIOS has
support for the NCR SCSI controller. I don't have any direct experience with
this one, but have heard of several people that are using it successfully with
NEXTSTEP.
ASUS dual P90 motherboard (model #: PCI/E-P54NP4)
This board has 4 EISA / 4 PCI slots and has two P90 sockets. One for
the standard P54C-90 and one for a P54CM or P54CT (which I believe is required
to support the Intel Multi-Processing specification). This board does support
the Intel MP spec and NeXT is rumored to be working on multi-processing support
that will hopefully support the Intel MP spec. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
I do know of at least one person that is using this board successfully with
NEXTSTEP with a PCI video board (a MiroCrystal 32s).
I'm sure there are other boards out there, but these are the ones that I have
info on. Good luck to anyone attempting to put together a P90 NEXTSTEP system.
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: Scott A Douglass <sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 256MB ODs
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 14:10:55 -0400
Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <giMrMj_00UhWA6=1tD@andrew.cmu.edu>
Are cube optical drives ISO-9660 CD-ROM compatible?
-------------------------------------------------------
Scott Douglass, sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu
Department of Psychology, Carnegie Mellon University
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: are there memory upgrade boards for "BLACK"?
Message-ID: <34479@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>
Date: 30 Aug 94 18:34:44 GMT
Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
I have a Turbo NeXT cube with a NeXT Dimension board.
I have 32 mb of primary memory which I would like to crank up to
64 mb. Unfortunately, all of the 4 SIMM slots on the main processor board
are filled up with 8 mb SIMMs (4 * 8mb = 32mb).
Can I avoid having to sell or throw out SIMMs in order to make room for
larger capacity SIMMs by purchasing a memory board upgrade?
I do have two free slots in the Cube. Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.
Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: mikef@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: EtherLink III: TP support available?
Date: 30 Aug 1994 19:50:41 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3402ih$223@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
The current hardware compatibility guide lists that twisted-pair support
for the Etherlink III card was planned for Quarter 2. Has any such release
been made? I have an Etherlink III card that I now need to use with
twisted-pair, and the driver I have does not work.
I seem to remember noticing a newer Etherlink III driver on the 3.3
pre-release 1 CD-ROM that seemed to have support for TP. Is it possible
that this driver could work under 3.2?
Thanks,
Mike
From: rickf@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rick Stanley Francis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Swap drives?
Date: 30 Aug 1994 19:39:46 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <3401u2$k3k@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: swapdisk
I am interested in getting a small (say 40-100 MB) disk to use as a swapdrive
for my system. I was wondering what drives (ie specific brands and
models) people had successfully setup as swapdisks? I had tried a
conner CP3040 without any luck, I'm not sure if it was a problem with
the drive being incompatable with the controller, or the one I had
just being a bad disk. Any comments are appreciated.
-Rick Francis
rickf@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Strange Startup Symptom
Message-ID: <CvD6H9.5nE@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 20:05:33 GMT
I have a cube 040 / 25 MHz / 32 MB RAM / 540 HD.
Sometimes when I power up, the monitor comes up with
an extremely faint image of what appear to be vertical
lines. I have moved this board about into different
cubes and the same problem occurs on occasion.
To resolve the problem, we unplug the power supply
and power up again. Then, no problem.
I have seen this behavior before when the board
is inserted in the incorrect slot in the cube.
But, we know our slots here (at least).
Any input greatly appreciated. David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at (a5401gac)
Message-ID: <199408302014.WAA22337@c1.cc.univie.ac.at>
Subject: NeXT Printer to PC
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:14:51 +0200
id AA29623; Tue, 30 Aug 94 13:16:36 -0700
id <14506-0@email.univie.ac.at>; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:14:52 +0200
for comp.sys.next.hardware.usenet@decwrl.dec.com;
Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:14:51 +0200
Please send answers to my email address as well!
Thank you,
Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: macole@netcom.com (Mario A. Cole)
Subject: NeXTStation w/3.1 questions
Message-ID: <macoleCvDC2G.61s@netcom.com>
Organization: None -- you should see my office!
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:06:15 GMT
Hello NeXT fans! I've been using a pizza box for a while and I just decided
to open it up and take a looksy inside. Now here are a few questions:
1) What the hell is a 72-pin slot doing inside this thing and what is it for?
2) What kind of SIMMs (Mac or PC) does this thing use? Ok...8 or 9-chip
SIMMs?
3) Now, I use a heat sink on my 486DX2 CPU and I figure a 68040 would need it
also given its in a machine that should be on 24 hours; but what's with the
other heat sink? It covers the chip so I can't see what it is. Is it the DSP
chip?
4) This is an easy one...Has anyone tried upgrading the CPU? (Hey, it's worth
the effort...I can always use a 400MB SCSI drive in my PC.) :-)
5) Does anyone know what the hell I'm babbling about????
Oh, don't sweat on these questions....I'm about 400 Megs away from having a nice
Intel/Nextstep system ready to go. Unless of course, someone would invest
their time and facility to create a PowerPC Nextstation (hey, I like black!).
Otherwise....
Thanks for your time and tolerance...
see ya!
Mario
"NeXTStep LIVES!! (at least longer than the hardware)"
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accurate mind overtaxed" | macole@storm.ns.doe.gov
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: NeXTStation w/3.1 questions
Message-ID: <espritCvDCr2.6vC@netcom.com>
Organization: Internet Lotus Cars Mailing List
References: <macoleCvDC2G.61s@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:21:02 GMT
In article <macoleCvDC2G.61s@netcom.com> macole@netcom.com (Mario A. Cole) writes:
>Hello NeXT fans! I've been using a pizza box for a while and I just decided
>to open it up and take a looksy inside. Now here are a few questions:
Well, first, it is a Slab, not a pizza box. A pizza box is larger and
off-white.
>1) What the hell is a 72-pin slot doing inside this thing and what is it for?
DSP memory expansion. It is very hard to find the funny SIMM that goes in
it.
>2) What kind of SIMMs (Mac or PC) does this thing use? Ok...8 or 9-chip
>SIMMs?
Either. If you use parity SIMMs, the machine is smart enough to figure
it out. I have been told that parity is slightly slower, though.
>3) Now, I use a heat sink on my 486DX2 CPU and I figure a 68040 would need it
>also given its in a machine that should be on 24 hours; but what's with the
>other heat sink? It covers the chip so I can't see what it is. Is it the DSP
>chip?
Hmm. Don't know. Haven't noticed the other heat sink.
>4) This is an easy one...Has anyone tried upgrading the CPU? (Hey, it's worth
>the effort...I can always use a 400MB SCSI drive in my PC.) :-)
There is an effort to provide an '060 upgrade daughter board. I was never
clear on which machines it will actually run on, though. Also, haven't
heard status on this for a while. Hey, Sam! What's up with the '060 stuff?
Don't understand the 400MB SCSI comment.
>5) Does anyone know what the hell I'm babbling about????
No.
>Oh, don't sweat on these questions....I'm about 400 Megs away from having a nice
>Intel/Nextstep system ready to go. Unless of course, someone would invest
>their time and facility to create a PowerPC Nextstation (hey, I like black!).
>Otherwise....
Bag the Intel system unless it is an object.station.
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: Fastest EISA Throughput?
Message-ID: <westesCvDDEF.75u@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <westesCv9n3D.47H@netcom.com> <33s0u6$5kl@marsu.s.bawue.de>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:35:02 GMT
Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.s.bawue.de) wrote:
: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
: >What is the fastest throughput in megabytes per second that anyone
: >has recorded on an EISA SCSI host adapter using NS 3.2 FIP? Using
: >DrivePerformance.App, I get only 900K/sec write and 1300K/sec read
: >with a Buslogic 747S using the 32-bit driver that Buslogic recently
: >released. Even Buslogic says that this is well below the
: >1800-2000K/sec that the card is capable of doing.
: You should have told us which drive you use.
: I get about 1500 KB/s read+write with a DEC DSP3053L and about 1000-1100 KB/s
: with an IBM 0662S12, both attached to a DPT 2022 EISA controller.
I'm using a Quantum Empire 1080S, which should cruise right up there with
the DEC. Is your reading of 1500K for read performance only?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: Fastest EISA Throughput?
Message-ID: <westesCvDDHG.7EG@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <westesCv9n3D.47H@netcom.com> <33s0u6$5kl@marsu.s.bawue.de>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:36:52 GMT
Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.s.bawue.de) wrote:
: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
: >What is the fastest throughput in megabytes per second that anyone
: >has recorded on an EISA SCSI host adapter using NS 3.2 FIP? Using
: >DrivePerformance.App, I get only 900K/sec write and 1300K/sec read
: >with a Buslogic 747S using the 32-bit driver that Buslogic recently
: >released. Even Buslogic says that this is well below the
: >1800-2000K/sec that the card is capable of doing.
: You should have told us which drive you use.
: I get about 1500 KB/s read+write with a DEC DSP3053L and about 1000-1100
: KB/s
: with an IBM 0662S12, both attached to a DPT 2022 EISA controller.
I'm using a Quantum Empire 1080S, which should cruise right up there with
the DEC. Is your reading of 1500K for read performance only?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@usc.com
From: vamp@csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Formatting >2gig drives
Date: 30 Aug 1994 17:55:34 -0700
Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding.
Message-ID: <340ke6$f2t@tern.csulb.edu>
I asked a couple weeks back about formatting and partitioning one of the
new 9gig Seagate drives. I got a few pointers int he right diredtion, and
after putting them together I was able to format and partion the dirve
succesfully and get it up and runnning, so I thought I should post an
explaination here for those wanting to do the same.
I started by following the info posted in NextAnswer 1533.
The hardest part was getting the thing format. The normal sdform command
seemed to die on the 9gig drive, so I obtained a copy of a utility called
sdformat (v1.1) from one of the next archives
(cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/util) to actually format the drive.
(sdformat -i4 -b1024)
The using the info provided by scsimodes (scsimodes /dev/rsd1a) to build my
own disktab. I'd post the disktab itself, but apparently it was lost in
the shuffle of new machines and upgrades. The NextAnswer explains the
process well, thought I did have to bump down the cylinders-per-group from
the default 32 in the disktab entry to 28, and create a front porch of 160.
After creating the disktab I used disk (disk -t ELITE9 -i /dev/rsd1a) to
partition the drive, and I was set. Mounted it and it seems to be working
fine.
I want to thank Brian Willoughby <brianw@sounds.wa.com> for the sdformat
v1.1 program, without which I'd probably still be tearing my hair out
getting that massive drive formatted.
--
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HPs color recovery
Date: 31 Aug 1994 13:18:21 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <341vut$4tc@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <9408280258.AA19556@idcube.idsoftware.com>
John Carmack (johnc@idcube.idsoftware.com) wrote:
: I'm looking forward to NS 3.3 supporting the high end HP differential
: fast wide scsi drives so we can sort of justify (well....) buying a
: loaded 735/125 as a primary file/compile server.
Wasn't it the last consense that there won't be a NS 3.3 for HP ? If this
is false, could some NS/HP 3.2 owner enlighten us if they are offered a
free upgrade to 3.3, or if they have to pay. Then it would probably be
better for us to wait until November before we buy a bunch of Gecko's.
Gregor
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Ethernet boards for NS/I
Message-ID: <CvDoyE.57A@fragile.termfrost.org>
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 02:44:38 GMT
NE2000 clones aren't listed in the compatibility guide -- is there a driver
for them yet? Or in the works for 3.3?
Has anyone rigged up a driver for the SMC Ultra? As I understand it, the
Elite works but the Ultra doesn't.
--
Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@wittenberg.edu
"To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Internal modem on NIS question + SLIP q.
Date: 31 Aug 1994 23:44:36 -0400
Organization: College of Computing
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <343in4$44s@jazz.cc.gatech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: debaud
I was wondering if any of you had any experince
with an internal modem inside the intel hardware.
More precisely, is it possible to run NS with
a modem card acting as a COM device. If so
(meaning if that is possible) how was this
done and with what type of drivers and modem
brand.
Also and as an aside question, given the possibility
that the above was not possible, how does one create
a SLIP line using a modem connected to one of the
serial ports. Could anyone refer me to some FTPable
soft or Documentation that relates to this?
Thanks for the help
Jean-Marc
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 32 mewg simms
Date: 31 Aug 1994 20:55:36 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <342qo8$25l@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Hi, I didn't think to ask before I posted in the next.marketplace
group, since that's what these simms were for, an NSFIP machine.
but does anyone know if these 32 meg simms will work in a color next?
they are 72 pin, 70 ns with parity (yes I know NS machine does not use
parity, but heck, I can't take them out) they are what is known as
double sided with the refresh lines tied together?????? anyways, will
black hardware support these simms? hello? anyone from next.com?
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From: anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David R. Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printing to an Epson LX800
Date: 31 Aug 1994 13:34:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <3420s9$1fl@netnews.upenn.edu>
I have a person who wants to print to an Epson LX800 (dot matrix, I
believe) from Motorola hardware. I don't really know why, but they do. Can
anyone tell me if this is possible?
-dave
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Different motherboards, effect on NS/FIP
Date: 31 Aug 1994 11:49:22 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <341n7i$cq@marsu.s.bawue.de>
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punch@cps.msu.edu (Bill Punch) writes:
>Could some kind soul describe the differences between different
>motherboards (Intel Premium, Intel Plato, etc) for those of us not yet
>up to speed on such PC things. What affect do these differences have on
>NeXTStep? Thanks for the help.
We bought two Intel boards from different distributors in Germany.
One was called "Premium", the other "Plato". Both boards are identical,
except for the BIOS rev.
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From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 90 Mhz Pentium: Intel Plato vs. Micronics?
Date: 31 Aug 1994 11:53:17 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) writes:
>We have an offer for a 90 Mhz Pentium based Intel Plato and a Micronics board.
>Any experiences running NEXTSTEP on them?
The Intel Plato board itself runs fine. The only problem I have at the moment
is sound output, but this seems to be a typical PCI/ISA feature with NS/I 3.2,
and I hope this won't be worth any discussion after NS 3.3 is released.
BTW, the miro 20SV is a nice and cheap S3/964 PCI graphics card!
I cannot speak for Micronics, never tested it.
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From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on 90MHz Pentium motherboards
Date: 31 Aug 1994 11:57:37 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) writes:
>Intel Premier II-PCI (aka Plato):
>Unfortunately it appears that there are problems with the PCI implementation on
>SOME of these motherboards. I know of at least three people (including myself)
>who have problems with this board in NEXTSTEP. The problem is that sometimes
>under NEXTSTEP, the WindowServer will crash, effectively logging the user out.
>My system vendor was able to reproduce this problem, but has not tested enough
>boards to be able to quantify the problem (i.e. hopefully to a particular
>revision of the board). Additionally I have problems with this board under
>DOS/Windows as well. I get random crashes and reboots. (Note: these problems
>are definitely NOT heat or memory related.). There was an article in the Aug
>15 edition of Info Week that reported on a problem with the current crop of P90
>motherboards, singling out the Intel Neptune chipset.
I have used two Plato boards now and did not (yet?) encounter the problems
you described. Anyway, I hope that all PCI problems will disappear with NS 3.3.
Markus.
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From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: nsfip - install problem - waitForInterrupt = -735?
Date: 31 Aug 1994 15:38:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <342860$20gf@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
attempting to install ns on a pentium system put together
by a friend & the hardware guide.
got the error (after device drivers are loaded)
: thread: waitForInterrupt:returns -735
(forever...)
there is an adaptec 1542CF card in it. i grabbed the latest
(dated february 94) driver for this from the NeXT archive and
this delayed the above error long enough for us to see a message
that the machine does recognize it's memory and more... but we
couldnt read further due to the message above.
anyone come across this?
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Some questions on Ethernet
Date: 31 Aug 1994 08:43 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31AUG199408431325@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi, folks.
I posted recently about tying two machines together (at home) via ethernet.
(DOS/Windows or NS/I and a NeXTcube.)
1. Should this be coax?
2. Any comments on 3Com's ELINK III?
3. My cube has an IP address assigned by the UofAz (I use C-SLIP). Do
I need to get another IP address for the DOS/Windows (or NS/I) box
or can I "make on up" etc? (Remember this is at home.)
4. Any recommended reading for setting the whole thing up.
(I'm thinking of getting a DELL XPS90 with the 3Com ELINK III. I'm
not even sure what Windows software to get for Internetting. Probably
PC/TCP. I suppose I'll need a driver of some sort for NS/I.)
Obviously, I am total new to these concepts. So help and advice is
appreciated. I can even learn from flames.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MTBF for Black
Date: 31 Aug 1994 15:56:40 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <34297o$jlq@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Hi I'm thinking about trading my Quadra 800 for a NeXTStation
'040/25. What I would like to know is: "How long do these machines
last before they need repair?". I don't really need tech info, I would
rather have personal experiences. Thanks in advance...
P.S. I think the machine I'm trading for is circa '92...
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From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Question (Suggestion) on P5-90 System
Date: 31 Aug 1994 23:55:58 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <94Aug31.161646@EE.Stanford.EDU>
First of all, forgive me if this is an FAQ but I haven't
been reading usenet news for a while and I might miss
the thread.
I would like to buy a P5-90 system and want to install
NEXTSTEP on it. Before run into any trouble I would like to
collect all the net wisdom.
1) Someone already pointed out that PCI-VLB motherboard had
very lousy PCI bus performance. Other choice is Intel Plato
board with Intel Neptune chip set. Has anyone successfully
installed NS on it ? Any pre-cautions or warnings ?
2) I narrowed down my choice on the video cards to
ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 64/ PCI
#9GXE64 Pro PCI
Diamond Stealth 64 PCI.
All these 3 boards got very good marks in the September issue
of PC World for Windows application. Is any of the above is
especially better for NEXTSTEP environment ? Local price for
these cards are pretty much the same but 3rd party device driver
is required for ATI and it costs some extra money.
3) Does anyone know when the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller
device driver become available ?
4) What ethernet cards are good for NEXTSTEP and what are bad ?
5) Is there anything I should consider ?
Please send any replies to park@isl.stanford.edu
I will summarize if I get enough answers.
--- Sang Ju Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Printing to an Epson LX800
Message-ID: <1994Aug31.151405.2501@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: DART Software GmbH
References: <3420s9$1fl@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 94 15:14:05 GMT
In article <3420s9$1fl@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@uniblab.sas.upenn.edu (David
R. Anstine) writes:
> I have a person who wants to print to an Epson LX800 (dot matrix, I
> believe) from Motorola hardware. I don't really know why, but they do. Can
> anyone tell me if this is possible?
Our driver Dots supports the Epson LX800 (and 400 other non-PostScript
printers!) The cost for the driver is $125. On Motorola hardware you don't even
need a PostScript license. For more information e-mail to dots@dart.de
From: tkonishi@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Tetsuro KONISHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Syquest 270mb 3.5" removable HD
Date: 31 Aug 94 23:38:51
Organization: R-lab., Dept. of Phys., Nagoya University, Japan
Message-ID: <TKONISHI.94Aug31233851@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
References: <32g2eu$7dr@ratatosk.uninett.no> <CuMKK6.IG@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
In-reply-to: Jacques Garbi's message of Tue, 16 Aug 1994 11:14:30 GMT
By the way, does anybody know if the SyQuest 270MB removable HD drives
can read and write the 105MB SyQuest cartridges?
--
Tetsuro KONISHI, R-lab., Dept. of Phys.,Nagoya Univ.,Nagoya,464-01, Japan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rpitt@sf.psca.com ()
Subject: NEXTSTEP and ThinkPads
Message-ID: <1994Aug30.164136.12751@sf.psca.com>
Keywords: Compatibility
Sender: rpitt@sf.psca.com
Organization: Paradigm Systems Corp. San Francisco, CA
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 16:41:36 GMT
I was curious to know if anyone has tried to get NEXTSTEP up and running
on an IBM ThinkPad. I've lined up to buy a 500 and was thinking of
trying it out. Any experience with this?
Cheers,
-- R.J.
rpitt@sf.psca.com
From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DECpc XL 590 or Dell XPS P90
Date: 31 Aug 1994 13:37:14 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34212a$dkj@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
I am trying to make a choice between the DECpc XL 590 or the Dell XPS P90.
If anyone has any comments regarding compatibility with NextStep, reliability,
service and technical support, suggestions on hardware configuration, or any
other comments, positive and negative please post to newsgroup.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
From: dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu (David A. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: [Q] HELP needed to configure BusLogic BT946C PCI SCSI contoller
Date: 31 Aug 1994 19:18:22 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <342l1u$eat@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Keywords: PCI bus, SCSI controller BusLogic
Can anyone give me some assistance on how to configure a BusLogic BT946C
PCI bus SCSI controller for NeXTStep?
Recently I received a Micron P90 system that was shipped with the
latest BusLogic PCI creation. The information in the Installation Guide
implies it is Unix compatible. In fact the guide says it "offers device
driver support for major industry standard operating systems as well as
operating sytems with embedded 1540-interface device drivers."
Well I've tried it and I haven't found the proper configuration for the
system. Can anyone give tell me the great secret to getting it up and
running?
..thank's in advance.
david
From: jheidelo@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP 712 and Exabyte 8200 Tape Drives
Date: 31 Aug 1994 19:22:03 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <342l8r$eah@mustang.alleg.edu>
Has anyone had any success with Exabyte SCSI tape drives attached to an HP
712/60? When I attach the drive, I get the following errors:
Aug 31 13:51:39 pellns mach: SCSI: id: 000296, lbolt: 0, bp: 33994c, dev:
630, dev_type: (00) Direct Access, ansi: 2, rdf: 2, tag: 7e,
Aug 31 13:51:39 pellns mach: cdb: 28 00 00 00 6a 10 00 00 04 00
Aug 31 13:51:39 pellns mach: opcode: (28) bcount: 800, addr: 2522000,
residual: 1,
Aug 31 13:51:47 pellns mach: SCSI: id: 00036b, lbolt: 0, bp: 33c100, dev:
630, dev_type: (00) Direct Access, ansi: 2, rdf: 2, tag: 7f,
Aug 31 13:51:47 pellns mach: cdb: 28 00 00 04 7e 10 00 00 10 00
Aug 31 13:51:47 pellns mach: opcode: (28) bcount: 2000, addr: 2614000,
residual: 1,
Aug 31 13:51:50 pellns mach: SCSI: id: 0003be, lbolt: 0, bp: 33b290, dev:
630, dev_type: (00) Direct Access, ansi: 2, rdf: 2, tag: 7e,
Aug 31 13:51:50 pellns mach: cdb: 28 00 00 06 0c 20 00 00 10 00
Aug 31 13:51:50 pellns mach: opcode: (28) bcount: 2000, addr: 25bc000,
residual: 1,
Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
--
Jason Heideloff... jheidelo@alleg.edu
Allegheny College
NeXTMail Welcome
From: Stephen Gibson <gibsonst@sonoma.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: [Q] HELP needed to configure BusLogic BT946C PCI SCSI contoller
Date: 31 Aug 1994 19:48:07 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <342mpn$r82@nic-nac.CSU.net>
References: <342l1u$eat@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <342l1u$eat@news.acns.nwu.edu> David A. Johnson,
dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu writes:
> Can anyone give me some assistance on how to configure a BusLogic BT946C
> PCI bus SCSI controller for NeXTStep?
>
> Recently I received a Micron P90 system that was shipped with the
> latest BusLogic PCI creation. The information in the Installation Guide
> implies it is Unix compatible. In fact the guide says it "offers device
> driver support for major industry standard operating systems as well as
> operating sytems with embedded 1540-interface device drivers."
> Well I've tried it and I haven't found the proper configuration for the
> system. Can anyone give tell me the great secret to getting it up and
> running?
David,
I spoke to BusLogic about their BT946C. I was told that NeXTSTEP 3.3 will
support it. Apparently, no drivers are currently planned for 3.2. Sorry.
"1540-compatibility" doesn't work either, I'm afraid. Seems as though you
will have to wait until 3.3 or hope that a 3rd-party writes one soon.
---------------------------------------------
Stephen Gibson, Office Automation Specialist
Sonoma State University
eMAIL: gibsonst@sonoma.edu
Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu
GibsonST@aol.com
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pentium 90 Super P54VL-PCI board and troubles
Date: 31 Aug 1994 19:54:28 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <342n5k$1u79@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
a colleague of mine is putting together a p90 system for
my group. we're getting an error
:: thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735
i posted this to csnh earlier today. someone suggested that i
define the whole problem to this group in case someone might
have a different driver suggestion for the components we have.
system consists of
Super P54Vl-PCI pentium 90 board
ati ultra pro graphics card
adaptec 1542CF scsi cntroller
the error above happens after i load the adaptec driver i got from
the ftp.next.com archive. the new adaptec driver shows some
text for about half a second and then starts scrolling the error.
before getting the 'new' driver, the scrolling started immediately
after driver loading.
a suggestion (thanks eric) was made that the NeXTSTEP ati driver
does not support the pci version of the video card. i did change
out the ati card for a simple vga card (in an isa slot) and got
the same error.
thanks in advance to anyone who might have a suggestion!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Lt Terry A Wilson USAF <twilson@afit.af.mil>
Subject: Using SoundBlaster SCSI-II with Next Step for Intel
Message-ID: <1994Aug31.190222.10224@afit.af.mil>
Sender: news@afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 19:02:22 GMT
I'm looking for drivers and information on running next step on a PC with
the Sound Blaster with SCSI-II interface. I also want to know if Next
step will alow me to use the SCSI-II interface from the sound blaster card
to access my cd-rom drive.
If you have any information please send e-mail.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:12:03 EDT
From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Message-ID: <94243.161203HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell XPS 90 Summary Please...
I'd like to buy a 'stock' machine to run NS and DOS (hey, AutoCAD pays the
bills, eh). I'm vacillating between a objectstation.41 and a DELL XPS90.
I know all about the os41.
My question is this: is there a version of the XPS90 that can run NS out
of the box, more or less? I'm looking for 1280x1024 graphics, so I don't
need a Miro or other super high end card.
If there is a faq on the XPS (i recall seeing hundreds of postings in the
past) I'd appreciate a copy....
Rob Harrap
harrap@geol.queensu.ca
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Organization: Mail Group
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 19:33:35 GMT
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From: pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com (Phil Zumsteg)
Subject: Re: Info on 90MHz Pentium motherboards
Message-ID: <1994Aug31.203204.5761@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: Honeywell/HBC
References: <1994Aug30.145250.3686@il.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 20:32:04 GMT
In article <1994Aug30.145250.3686@il.us.swissbank.com>, ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) says:
>
>After seeing all of these questions about 90MHz Pentium motherboards, I thought
>I'd summarize my experiences so that other people can avoid the problems that >I've had. So far I know of at least 5 different P90 motherboards:
>
>Micronics P90 motherboard (model #: ?):
>
> I don't have any experience with this one. I've been told that the
>BIOS doesn't have support for the NCR SCSI controllers (or any protected mode
>PCI BIOS'). Anybody use this one successfully with NEXTSTEP?
>
The Micronics Model is M54Pi, and is used in the Micron Computers P90 PCI
PowerStation. It has 4 PCI slots (all bus-mastering accoring to Micronics),
and 5 ISA slots. The PCI chipset is the Intel Neptune...
The BIOS (a Micronics adaption of the Phoenix Pentium PCI BIOS 4.04)
seems to really lack in the area of PCI support. As mentioned above,
there is *NO* PCI Protected Mode (hence the Talus NCR/PCI SCSI driver
will not work), and the basic PCI implementation seems to be merely an
"ISA emulation" - hence low PCI performance.
NS/FIP 3.2 did install smoothly with an Adaptec 1542B, and there have
been no crashes, hangs or unusual behaviour.
Video is miro 40SV PCI; great colors, great line definition, some tearing
of windows (large windows, dragged quickly). Looks *GREAT* at resolution
of 1408x1024x16 !!! (very stable image on Idek VisionMaster 8617 17").
Micron has responded nicely to my complaint about the BIOS lack of PCI
support - their engineering group is currently working with Micronics to
get this problem fixed (or so Micron told me). Since I've also faxed an8 page report to Micronics detailing the BIOS deficiencies, we'll hope
for the best.
Phil Zumsteg.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pzumsteg@p04.mn10.resd.honeywell.com (Phil Zumsteg)
Subject: Re: Inexpensive Pentium for NS/FIP wanted!!!!
Message-ID: <1994Aug31.215335.7958@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: Honeywell/HBC
References: <1994Aug29.190259.19605@emba.uvm.edu>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:53:35 GMT
In article <1994Aug29.190259.19605@emba.uvm.edu>, shalla@moose.uvm.edu (Susan E. Halla) says:
>
>I would like a 60 mHz Pentium, 16 meg RAM, 540 meg drive, CD ROM, etc.
>that will run NEXTSTEP decently, but is affordable to a Grad student like
>me. I've talked to DELL, (my lowest price), but does anyone know any
>off-name or other companies who have systems for around $2500 or less?
>
Opinion: Pentium 60 systems are prone to failure (temporary and otherwise)
due to the large amount of heat generated by the Pentium 60 MHz CPU....
Special care and feeding (provided by extra fans strategically placed in
the cabinet, and a CPU-mounted cooling fan) are *REQUIRED*. Caveat Emptor.
Price-wise: Check Micron Computers for a competitive price for the system
you've listed. I'm running a Micron P90 PCI / 32 MB/ 1.6 GB / CD-ROM 4X
(but it cost a whole lot more than $2500). Also, my experience with
Micron Tech. Support has been A+ (DELL Tech. Support needed support during
pre-sales Q&A...) (BTW: Micron (800)438-3343, Paul Schmid x8097 helped me.
There's a 2 hour time zone difference from Vermont to Idaho).
Option: 486/100 systems run NS/FIP 3.2 fairly well (based on postings
to this newsgroup) and are certainly price-competitive with Pentium 60
systems (approx. the same performance with either 486/100 or P60).
Again, Micron has some competitve offerings. Also, ecsys and Compaq
(these last two are both NeXT Certified I think).
>Also...I'm looking into an HP 4P 600 dpi printer...does anyone know if I
>need a PostScript card, or will NS image it?
>
Recent postings indicate that you need to either (a) buy the PostScript
card for the HP 4P, or (b) buy a PostScript license (from NeXT ?) to allow
you to print using some PostScript driver (or something like that).
The DOTS program (~$125, commercial software) can handle some non-PS
printers. You'll need to contact them (dots@dart.de) for specific
printer supported.
From: tspflaum@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (tspflaum@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 274x Driver
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:56:52 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Message-ID: <344c1kEi6g@uni-erlangen.de>
Is there beta version of a driver for the adaptec 274x scsi controller available?
The Hardware_Compatibility_Guide says "planed for 3 quater".
Pleas email
- Thomas
---
Thomas
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: nsfip - install problem - waitForInterrupt = -735?
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 18:59:24 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0iNEhAe00WBNI=dXYP@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <342860$20gf@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 31-Aug-94 nsfip - install
problem - w.. by Kelley Wittmeyer@kiwi.AT
> attempting to install ns on a pentium system put together
> by a friend & the hardware guide.
>
> got the error (after device drivers are loaded)
>
> : thread: waitForInterrupt:returns -735
> (forever...)
>
>
> there is an adaptec 1542CF card in it. i grabbed the latest
> (dated february 94) driver for this from the NeXT archive and
> this delayed the above error long enough for us to see a message
> that the machine does recognize it's memory and more... but we
> couldnt read further due to the message above.
>
> anyone come across this?
Yeah. Just ran across it myself. Read
"1108_Adaptec_1542C_and_Adaptec_1540C_SCSI_Adapters" from NeXTanswers on
ftp.next.com, and follow the directions about *everything* (DMA, IRQ's,
etc) _EXACTLY_.
Fixed the problem.
-Chuck
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Message-ID: <CvF81z.1KD@aeon.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Cities in Dust
References: <33f2nt$i7@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <33krl8$sbe@styx.wsc.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 22:34:47 GMT
Darcy Brockbank (samurai@hasc.ca) wrote:
> In article <33f2nt$i7@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> >
> > NeXT's Display Postscript relies heavily on floating-point performance.
> While
> > You might get the same integer performance, graphics will be slower.
> > (Of course, this also depends on the graphics system itself).
> >
> Hmmm. Then why do NeXTstation mono machines provide faster video than
> most 486 machines though the 486 machines have faster float?
Because NeXTstation mono is mono, i.e. 2 bit. If I switch my
ATI GUP 2MB VLB to mono it feels faster then a NeXTstation mono
we've here (I've not NXbench values at hand, but most are better
then the NeXTstation).
With 16 bit color the machine has to move 8 times more memory for
every operation, considering the fact that DPS doesn't use the
accelerating hardware capabilities of the video hardware (Mach32
or whatever) but use it as raw frame buffer instead. E.g. basic video
operations like BitBlt etc. are much much faster with X11 (XFree86)
because they are done in hardware there.
It depends also from the respective 486, e.g. a ISA ET4000 is quite
slow of course.
Thomas
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From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 31 Aug 1994 19:13:40 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <3439s4$121f@argo.unm.edu>
References: <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com>
In article <33i8ld$h5d@news.worldlink.com>,
James Gaines <p00378@psilink.com> wrote:
>The HP prices are not list. They are per an HP dealers prices. I have
>attached their price sheet below. If they are not competitive, I want ALL HP
>dealers to know and I also want your source for better HP prices.
>
>Assuming the 712/60 to cost around $5k, with a base Cell spread of $3.5k, I
>do not ever see the 712/80 falling below $8.5k within the $7-$11k range.
>Therefore, the only one worth having (712/80) costs at least $3k more than a
>Pentium 90. With the imminent introduction of the Pentium 100, Pent90 prices
>will fall even further, thus increasing its' price/performance ratio relative
>For the prices below, contact HP Dealer OSD: Igor Klimenko
><igor@dusya.osd.com>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Part Number Description OSD Price
>A4024A 712/60 base Cell 2,331.00
>A4028A 712/80 base Cell 5,822.10
>A1196A 15" 1024x768 Monitor 562.50
>A2287A 17" 1024x768 Monitor 1,620.00
Huh. Right out of the HP catalog I have lying under my left arm, stock retail
prices for the above four products are $2085, $5135, $625, and $1800, respec-
tively. So Igor charges more on systems and less on monitors.
>A4-32A 15" Multi-Sync Monitor 1,620.00
>A2094A 19" 1280x1024 Monitor 3,060.00
Get real.
>A4025A High res. graphics kit (VRAM) 360.00
>A2577A 8MB RAM/2x4 MB RAM boards 504.00
>A2578A 16MB RAM/2x8 MB RAM boards 1,152.00
>A2829A 32MB RAM/2x16 MB RAM boards 2,016.00
>A2827A 64MB RAM/2x32 MB RAM boards 4,032.00
>A4065 260MB Internal disk drive 450.00
>A4066A 525MB Internal disk drive 990.00
>A4067A 1GB Internal disk drive 1,440.00
>A4068A 3,5" floppy disk drive 112.50
Ditto.
>A4030A Localization kit(mouse included) 94.50
>A4013A Second serial card 265.50
List on the Localization kit is $105, list on the serial card is
$295.
>A2655A CD ROM Drive 985.50
For that drive?
>NEXTSTEP Software
> Nextstep 3.2 (User) 650.00
> Nextstep 3.2 (Developer) 2,595.00
>
>Third Party Parts
>2217 Micropolis 1.75GB SCSI-2,3.5",10MS,Int 1,265.00
>2210 Micropolis 1.05GB SCSI-2,3.5",10MS,Int 955.00
>2205 Micropolis 584 MB SCSI-2,3.5",10MS,Int 795.00
>127702 Seagate 457 MB SCSI-2,3.5",12MS,Int 490.00
>127816 Seagate 545MB SCSI-2,3.5",12MS,Int 545.00
The rest isn't even worth including, because Klimenko's margins are pretty
hefty if those prices are current.
Right now the most cost-effective way to buy an HP (or any other brand of
workstation) is to buy the minimum configuration and then buy common equipment
from your favorite source. It's the same if you're out buying PC or Mac or
any other type of computer equipment. Bottom line from my local HP dealer
(Holman's in Albuquerque) is a flat $3500 for a minimal configuration. That's
a pretty competitive box when compared with a clone of remotely similar
capabilities, and I trust the HP to be more reliable. The 712/60 running
NeXTStep I had for two months on evaluation was a great box, and I thought it
really made a Pentium look silly speedwise. Overall throughput was great.
If you're looking for a cost-effective HP box with a nice big drive and monitor,
you can do it for a lot less if you exercise your option to shop. If we're
going to compare prices, it makes sense to quote competitive ones on both
sides. Going by personal preference, I'd take the HP, either one, for
everything but playing Doom (which, admittedly, is a factor; I like
the screams).
Dave
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP vs NS/PA
Date: 31 Aug 1994 18:22:30 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <3436s6$2udq@argo.unm.edu>
References: <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> <33demo$efr@news.ycc.yale.edu> <33in1qINNj6h@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
In article <33in1qINNj6h@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>,
Patrick Chase <patrick@sdd.hp.com> wrote:
>In article <33demo$efr@news.ycc.yale.edu>, nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>|> In article <33d06s$amv@news.worldlink.com> "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
>|> writes:
(crunch)
>|> The correct entries are:
>|>
>|> SPECint92 SPECfp92 Price
>|> --------- -------- -----
>|> 712/60 58 79 $ 6,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
>|> 712/80i 84 79 not sold
>|> 712/80 84 122 $ 9,645 (HP list, no CDROM)
(another crunch)
>
>|> You should be able to realize major savings by purchasing base
>|> systems from an HP VAR/VAD, and adding 3rd party RAM, a larger
>|> hard disk drive, perhaps a larger monitor, etc. 3rd party prices
>|> for hard disk drives have fallen through the floor.
My local HP dealer offered me the starter 712/60 configuration (260 meg drive,
16 megs, 15" monitor) for $3500. I figured, should I decide to do that, I'd
buy third-part monitor, memory and disk and sell the 15" monitor. I think HP
should reduce prices on the 712 a little more and add a video configuration to
it to make it competitive with the Indy, but basically the machine is a good
buy. It'd be nice not to have to pay that much more for the 80 Mhz version,
as well. HP, however, seems to know who their market is, and the machines are
still competitively priced.
Dave
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video Modes in Intel PC
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 21:43:51 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wiNH7Le00WBNMB=Fgf@andrew.cmu.edu>
I was wondering if it's possible to increase the resolution to
1024x768@72 if I'm using an IDE iterface video card. I have an ATI
Graphics Ultra + (not Pro) w/ 2MB. I've used the card in this resolution
in other OSs. I tried to use Configure.app with the ATI GUP selected
(not the on-board ATI) but it gives me lines at the resolution I want,
besides being 8 bit greyscale instead of 4 bit (2 + 2).
-Leo
+----------------------------------------------------------+
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| Sigma Nu | 1) professor@cmu.edu |
| 1055 Morewood Ave. | Carnegie-Mellon University |
| Pittsburgh, PA 15213 | Sophomore, ECE\CS Double Major |
| (412) 862-3826 | Nugget: SPIN BHBHY, YAXY? |
+----------------------esp---------------------------------+
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MultiSound card SoundKit driver
Date: 1 Sep 1994 02:30:03 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <343ebb$8po@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: driver, sound
Some time ago I read about somebody being doing work on a SoundKit driver
for the MultiSound card (from Turtle Beach). Of course I think I saved the
article, but I can't find it anywhere :-)
News? Contacts?
Thanks in advance for any help.
-- Fernando
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: kbekirog@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kaya Bekiroglu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Stealth64 Drivers... When?
Date: 31 Aug 1994 23:09:06 -0400
Organization: Division of Academic Computing, Northeastern University, Boston, MA. USA
Message-ID: <343gki$dse@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Does anyone know when (and if) drivers for the Stealth64 will be
availible for NeXTstep?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: 3.5" MO drive success (black)
Message-ID: <CvFM7w.9HH@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 03:40:43 GMT
Just in case you are interested:
I've successfully used an Olympus 3.5" magneto optical drive on my vintage
NeXTstation. The boot messages says: OLYMPUS MOS300 Rev 3.12. It came in a
very small (probably 6" wide) and nice case.
I got it from MacProducts USA (their Magic 128mb Turbo Optical) for $749 with
one free cartridge a while back. It did die after a couple of weeks and I
just got its replacement... the new one seems to be holding up.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
set based motherboards are usually
the best bet for the price - almost everyone is either offering Neptune
based or Opti based motherboards. However, getting P90 machines
is still a minefield... it's best to compare exact motherboards & revs.
People have reported success with Intel Premiere/Plato Neptune based
motherboards with particular BIOS's. The Dell Dimension line, the DEC pcXL
line among others are also based on the Neptune. People have also reported
stability problems and PCI support problems... partially it's the newness of
PCI, partially it's the lack of support of PCI in NS 3.2 which will be
addressed in NS 3.3, and partially it's poorly ventilated CPU cases.
It is interesting to note that the SPECmark92 numbers (int 90.1, float 72.7)
for the 90mhz Pentium that people like to toss around to compare CPU's was
not obtained on a Neptune based motherboard. Instead, it was on Intel's
XPRESS boxes (it also had 512k L2 cache). It's kinda like the PowerMac
advocates quoting SPECmarks based on IBM's $10-15k PowerPC AIX workstations.
I wonder if NEXTSTEP will run on Intel's high end motherboards (better than
the Premiere).
> 2) I narrowed down my choice on the video cards to
> ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 64/ PCI
> #9GXE64 Pro PCI
> Diamond Stealth 64 PCI.
> All these 3 boards got very good marks in the September issue
> of PC World for Windows application.
Please note that performance of these boards under Windows, OS/2 or most
other display systems have no direct correlation to speed under NEXTSTEP.
All three of these boards are based on "accelerated" graphics chips that
implement hardware accelerations for specific simplistic graphics calls used
by Windows, OS/2, and sometimes X11. NEXTSTEP just likes a fast frame buffer
to copy memory buffers to... sometimes a board can hide slow memory access
under Windows by providing "acceleration" that NEXTSTEP won't use.
For speed, avoid DRAM based memory boards. Also, reportedly, the #9 driver
has been enhanced to drive the board in 444 mode instead of 555 mode when in
NeXT's 12 bit color mode. That allows the #9 to work with less data,
effectively speeding it up in that mode. If you are not going to be using 12
bit color mode, this enhancement won't help. NEXTSTEP clueful vendors
include JCIS, Elsa & Miro. JCIS has a VL/PCI Weitek P9100 card, Elsa has S3
based cards, and Miro has both.
Also note that NXBench heavily relies on CPU performance to crunch Display
Postscript for its scores. In addition there are ways of fooling NXBench.
Therefore, use NXBench scores very carefully... the machine has to be
identical and the tests have to be run in the identical manner... plus, the
final NXBench number isn't that useful... instead, inspect the individual
numbers.
> 3) Does anyone know when the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller
> device driver become available ?
dunno. You can get the NCR 810/825 and Talus drivers now.
> 4) What ethernet cards are good for NEXTSTEP and what are bad ?
The only really usable ISA based ethernet card is the Intel EtherExpress.
Even with that card, NS/FIP network performance is disappointing (but stable
& hassle free). NeXT has released a beta driver for the Cogent PCI ethernet
card and I've been told it's *fast*.
> 5) Is there anything I should consider ?
Get a balanced machine... there's no point in going hog wild over one
particular subsystem and neglect others (like putting IDE on a 90mhz Pentium
running UNIX). No matter what CPU you have, if you don't get enough memory
your machine will be slow. If you put a slow hard drive on, it will be slow.
If you get an 3Com Etherlink III and use the network intensively, things will
be slow. I would say get a 486DX 100mhz or 60mhz Pentium and get a balanced
machine rather than get a 90mhz Pentium and slow peripherals. Many
peripherals have longer life spans before obsolescence than CPU's.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: jbierach@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Bierach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Printer to PC
Date: 1 Sep 1994 07:16:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <343v4s$k8t@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <33j14q$crd@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> sayeap@vitalstatistix.mis.commerce.ubc.ca (Soon Aun Yeap) writes:
>
>Hi ... can anyone tell me if it is possible to hook up a NeXT printer to a
>PC ...
I have a similar problem, but a more workable solution. I just need advice on
low cost software/drivers.
I want to use my 400 dpi laser printer attached to my old 8mb/030 Cube as a
network printer for my PC running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I currently
have this working using floppynet, so I know that it will work.
Anyone have experience doing this?
What Windows printer driver can I use? I seem to be limited to 300dpi with
the Windows PS driver.
Thanks,
Jeff Bierach
If you want to email a reply, please send to:
jbierach@vicorp.com
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Question (Suggestion) on P5-90 System
Date: 1 Sep 94 07:58:26 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.778406306@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <94Aug31.161646@EE.Stanford.EDU>
park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park) writes:
>1) Someone already pointed out that PCI-VLB motherboard had
> very lousy PCI bus performance. Other choice is Intel Plato
> board with Intel Neptune chip set. Has anyone successfully
> installed NS on it ? Any pre-cautions or warnings ?
My Plato systems runs for two days now, I haven't encountered problems
except the old collision PAS16 vs. ISA SCSI controller. But this disappears
when you use a PCI SCSI controller (my NCR didn't ship yet :-(
The last remaining problem with a NCR and PAS16 is that you have to
patch the PAS driver in order to get 16 bit DMA, and that you won't be able
to play and record sound. If you play a soundfile, recording won't be
possible until next reboot and vice versa.
>2) I narrowed down my choice on the video cards to
> ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 64/ PCI
> #9GXE64 Pro PCI
> Diamond Stealth 64 PCI.
I would like to add the miro 20SV/40SV. Especially the 20SV is rather
cheap and gives the same performance like all other 964 cards.
NXFactor 1.46 at 1152x864x16 bit.
>3) Does anyone know when the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller
> device driver become available ?
anyone@NeXT.com knows. ;-)
>4) What ethernet cards are good for NEXTSTEP and what are bad ?
Good: Intel EtherExpress 16 (ISA), Cogent 960 EISA or PCI.
Bad: SMC, 3Com.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: wenzlik@hrz-serv7.hrz.uni-kassel.de (Michaela Wenzlik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Notebook
Date: 1 Sep 1994 09:41:00 GMT
Organization: Kassel University, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3447jc$gbf@hrz-ws11.hrz.uni-kassel.de>
Hello everybody out there.
I'm looking for a notebook that can handle winword 6.0 at a reasonable
pace. It should not be too expensive but good. Any ideas?
Thanks a lot!!!
Michael (but its the account of michaela. (Got it?)
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Different motherboards, effect on NS/FIP
Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:23:31 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <342aq3$qf@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <33j87f$mt5@styx.wsc.com> <33lal3$kbu@news.mic.ucla.edu> <33tkes$qip@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <341n7i$cq@marsu.s.bawue.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>We bought two Intel boards from different distributors in Germany.
>One was called "Premium", the other "Plato". Both boards are identical,
^^^^^^^
Sorry, I meant "Premiere" actually.
--
!!! New mail address !!! mow@marsu.s.bawue.de !!! New mail address !!!
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Austin(IPC) notebooks
Message-ID: <2950@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Date: 1 Sep 94 11:18:02 GMT
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
Can anybody comment on the feasability of putting NeXTstep on the
notebook computers of Austin(IPC)? They seem to offer a good value,
but neither from their adds, nor from the information they faxed to
me I can find out whether this is possible. Did anybody try?
By the time I manage to get a NeXTstep notebook I will summarize.
Thanks in advance
Jos Vermaseren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 Summary Please...
In-Reply-To: 's message of Wed, 31 Aug 1994 16:12:03 EDT
To: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Aug31224918@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <94243.161203HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 02:49:17 GMT
In article <94243.161203HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
I'd like to buy a 'stock' machine to run NS and DOS (hey, AutoCAD pays the
bills, eh). I'm vacillating between a objectstation.41 and a DELL XPS90.
I know all about the os41.
As far as I can tell the Dell XPS90 is likely to come as close to this
requirement as you are going to get today. It even comes by default
with the GXE64Pro which is one of the best supported graphics cards
available today. All you need to add is a supported SCSI card (like
an Adaptec 1542).
My question is this: is there a version of the XPS90 that can run NS out
of the box, more or less? I'm looking for 1280x1024 graphics, so I don't
need a Miro or other super high end card.
Actually, 1280x1024 is considered fairly high end by most people.
Luckily the GXE64Pro supports it in 16 bit color if you have 4 MByte
VRAM. BTW, this card uses a more advanced version of the #9 graphics
chip the Miro card uses.
If there is a faq on the XPS (i recall seeing hundreds of postings in the
past) I'd appreciate a copy....
So would I.
Carl Edman
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pricing on Canon Intel Nextstatiions
Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:40:18 GMT
Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <344p4i$e4e@styx.wsc.com>
References: <CvF81z.1KD@aeon.in-berlin.de>
In article <CvF81z.1KD@aeon.in-berlin.de> thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas
Wolfram) writes:
> Darcy Brockbank (samurai@hasc.ca) wrote:
> > In article <33f2nt$i7@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
> > rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> > >
> > > NeXT's Display Postscript relies heavily on floating-point performance.
> > While
> > > You might get the same integer performance, graphics will be slower.
> > > (Of course, this also depends on the graphics system itself).
> > >
>
> > Hmmm. Then why do NeXTstation mono machines provide faster video than
> > most 486 machines though the 486 machines have faster float?
>
> Because NeXTstation mono is mono, i.e. 2 bit. If I switch my
> ATI GUP 2MB VLB to mono it feels faster then a NeXTstation mono
> we've here (I've not NXbench values at hand, but most are better
> then the NeXTstation).
Uhh, I was posing a rhetorical question. The purpose was to show that
there are other factors than floating point performance of the chip
which affect video performance (including buffer depth, as you've
noted).
Someone from Adobe has also pointed out that DPS (contrary to popular
belief) goes out of its way to *avoid* floating point calculations,
especially since it comes from source which was optimized to run on
print engines with little or no floating point capability.
- db
--
So, we went out to dinner last night and there was this large group of females
from 'Women's Wear Daily' next to us. They stopped me as I went by and they
remarked that they hated my tie. Your taste in ties has never been truly
dissed until Women's Wear Daily has informed you, in person, that it sucks.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 mewg simms
Date: 1 Sep 1994 16:12:03 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <344ugj$e2r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <342qo8$25l@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
In article <342qo8$25l@mojo.eng.umd.edu> veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T.
Wang) writes:
> but does anyone know if these 32 meg simms will work in a color next?
Turbo color and late model nonturbo color NextStations will accept SIMMs
up to 16 MB. Older nonturbo models take SIMMs up to 4 MB.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: x60605a@ccews03.odinss02 (Masahiro TATSUMI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 32bit driver for mach32
Date: 1 Sep 94 20:42:11
Organization: /usr1/x60605a/.organization
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <X60605A.94Sep1204211@ccews03.odinss02>
Does anyone have information of 32bit driver for mach32 or of
how to configure DAC for that mode?
Thanks.
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
Masahiro TATSUMI <x60605a@center.osaka-u.ac.jp>
Dept. of Nuclear Engineering ( Reactor Physics )
Faculty of Engineering
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From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag)
Subject: How to check if parity simms reside in NeXTstation
Message-ID: <CvGo1z.6Gy@news.cis.umn.edu>
Followup-To: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Keywords: memory, SIMM, NeXTstation
Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 17:12:46 GMT
Hello,
I am in the process of installing more RAM in my
25-MHz 'station (tired of incessant swapdrive spinning).
My questions: since my motherboard is pre-turbo
(SN < ABB 002 6300), how can i tell if
i have parity/non-parity simms in my machine?
Have people mixed parity and non-parity SIMMS without
trouble?
The boot ROMs are 2.5 v66, so from the FAQ it appears that
mixing the two will not be a problem.. true or false?
Since I have work to do, I would like to avoid
opening the case to examine the SIMMS; will
I be able to determine parity/non-parity from the ROM
monitor?
Please email suggestions!
Thanks,
Sharad
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Graduate Program in Neuroscience fax: (612) 626-9201
University of Minnesota shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
From: lsean@VNET.IBM.COM
Message-ID: <19940901.110325.845@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:03:07 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 030 Cube and laser for sale
16MHz 68030 CPU
8MB RAM
350MB hard disk
Optical Drive w/ 2 discs (one contains original NS 1.0)
B/W 17" monitor w/ external microphone
2400/9600 fax modem w/ cable
400dpi black laser printer
NS 2.1 user and developer in OD
Word Perfect
Sybase
Mathematica
Improv
etc.
Asking $1800 or best offer.
Sean Holmes
From: seanl@necco.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: That Old NeXTstation Color startup problem...
Date: 1 Sep 1994 18:39:28 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <345750$6v5@umd5.umd.edu>
Hi everybody. We've come across an old NS Color with, oh, 12 Megs of
memory and a 105Meg hard drive. It looks like it's got 3.2 on it (at least
the user stuff), and a 21-inch monitor.`
THE PROBLEM: On initial boot-up, the computer works fine for, oh, 30
minutes. It then freezes up, keeping the image on the screen but other than
that heading out to nil-space. No keyboard input, nothing.`
So we pull the plug, and start it up again. It doesn't come up. The hard
drive powers up, and various internal LEDs light up, but the image on the`
screen is a weak, squished and flaky white splotch. The box just sits there.
After letting the machine sit for a few days, it boots up again for another
30 minutes, then refreezes.
UNANSWERED: I've not been able to hook a terminal to the A port yet, nor have
I gotten the machine on the net (it's not properly set up, so it's unlikely
I'll be able to either...)
THE QUESTION: Back a few years there were some big problems with start-up
hanging on Color NeXTstations. I remember that NeXT was recalling some and
replacing motherboards, no? Had something to do with the RAMDAC, I thought.
I'm wondering if we've got such a machine, and if so, if there's anything in
the world we can do about it now, or if it's just a goner. I don't have any
money, and I doubt the department I work for has much, but we might be able
to scrape _something_ up.
Thanks for your help!
Sean
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From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 32 mewg simms
Date: 1 Sep 1994 19:53:31 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <345bfr$rak@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Sorry, but I ftp'ed over to rtfm.mit.edu and I can't seem to fin dthe
FAQ there, can some one tell me where I can find FAQ for this group or
gregarding NeXT hardware in general? (Black)
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From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: ST43400N formatting to 1024byte sectors wanted
Date: 1 Sep 1994 21:49:42 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <345i9n$dts@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Is there a program that formats an ST43400N disk drive to 1024byte
sectors? I understand that this will speed up the system substantially,
and add some megabytes.
I already have the disk at 512byte sectors and two partitions. This
utility needs to be running under NS/FIP, not NS/040.
I am looking either for instructions, or for a utility program I would buy
that will do this.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic VLB SCSI Card?
Message-ID: <CvGsDx.H07@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:51:32 GMT
References: <Cv9yty.BK@cunews.carleton.ca> <33ualr$3h3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Organization: VE6MGS Gateway
jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>Tested via DrivePerformance
>
>IDE .4-.6 (ide drive of course)
>1542c .9-1.2 (micropolis drive)
>445s 1.8-1.9 "
I have five drives, mainly MAXTORS (340MB*2, 760MB), on my SCSI bus. I tested
both the 1542C and the 445S with iozone while in single user mode. I also
tested the old Buslogic 542B. I would like to test the DPT2012 soon too (as
I have some email indicating it is faster, with a performance of nearly
double).
Write Read
542B 377KB/s 388KB/s
1542C 389KB/s 405KB/s
445S 390KB/s 394KB/s
Pathetic. I am still trying to find out why I get such poor performance,
considering when I ran BSDi with two of the MAXTORs I had close to 1MB to
1.3MB/s.
Ciao -- Mark
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY: nsfip - install problem - waitForInterrupt = -735?
Date: 1 Sep 1994 21:29:05 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <345h31$2abp@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: summary pentium install 735
problem:
attempting to install ns on a pentium system put together
by a friend & the hardware guide.
got the error (after device drivers are loaded)
: thread: waitForInterrupt:returns -735
(forever...)
there is an adaptec 1542CF card in it. i grabbed the latest
(dated february 94) driver for this from the NeXT archive and
this delayed the above error long enough for us to see a message
that the machine does recognize it's memory and more... but we
couldnt read further due to the message above.
solution:
turns out that the NeXTAnswers suggestions were already in place.
we had to change the irq for the adaptec to irq 11 from 12, which will
disable one of our pci slots. no big deal. system consists of
system consists of
Super P54Vl-PCI pentium 90 board
ati ultra pro graphics card
adaptec 1542CF scsi cntroller
now i can at least get past the partitioning questions before
it can't see my drive anymore...
hope this helps someone down the road.
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Subject: HP CD-ROM drive integration (& new T3401 low price)
Message-ID: <1994Sep1.224156.19502@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 22:41:56 GMT
I'm as penurious as the next guy, but _if_ you're a developer, you
might actually spend the extra $50(*) buying the HP CD-ROM, just to
check out the packaging. They have neat custom plastic case
moldings, coupled with mechanical metal shielding, plus a foam
surround interior with embedded wire routing channels. It also comes
with an odd little add-on stand to attach the drive to the 712 system
unit. Alas, internationalization puts the power supply in an
external power-line box, but they still required a fan in the main
case, ugh. Sorry if this sounds effete, but you really must see it
to appreciate it. This is a great packaging job!
--Brian
bnh@active.com
(*) The latest price I saw in MacWorld from APS was $439. Add in a
MicroSCSI2-to-50pin cable ($40 from APS, you only get the Mac DB25-50
cable for free) and you get $479, versus the HP developer price of
$526 for drive including cable.
P.S. Late flash -- after preparing this message I discovered Educorp
now sells a T3401 for $369! Bzzztt -- So much for my $50 rationale...
Don't you miss clari.streetprice?
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EtherLink III: TP support available?
Date: 1 Sep 1994 22:49:40 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <345lq4$7lr@rosie.next.com>
References: <3402ih$223@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3402ih$223@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> mikef@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Mike
Fleming) writes:
:The current hardware compatibility guide lists that twisted-pair support
:for the Etherlink III card was planned for Quarter 2. Has any such
release
:been made? I have an Etherlink III card that I now need to use with
:twisted-pair, and the driver I have does not work.
This driver update is in NeXTanswers, documents 1653 and 1654.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: nsfip - install problem - waitForInterrupt = -735?
Date: 1 Sep 1994 23:39:47 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <345oo3$7nh@rosie.next.com>
References: <0iNEhAe00WBNI=dXYP@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <0iNEhAe00WBNI=dXYP@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
:> : thread: waitForInterrupt:returns -735
:> (forever...)
:>
:> anyone come across this?
:
:Yeah. Just ran across it myself. Read
:"1108_Adaptec_1542C_and_Adaptec_1540C_SCSI_Adapters" from NeXTanswers on
:ftp.next.com, and follow the directions about *everything* (DMA, IRQ's,
:etc) _EXACTLY_.
:
:Fixed the problem.
And if that doesn't fix it (it won't always), use the new Adaptec driver.
Follow the instructions in
"1541_Installation_Requiring_Adaptec_Driver_Update.rtf" exactly. That
*will* fix it...or at least, we've never heard of a case where it didn't.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Stealth64 Drivers... When?
Date: 1 Sep 1994 23:44:22 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <345p0m$7nk@rosie.next.com>
References: <343gki$dse@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
In article <343gki$dse@lynx.dac.neu.edu> kbekirog@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kaya
Bekiroglu) writes:
:Does anyone know when (and if) drivers for the Stealth64 will be
:availible for NeXTstep?
See NeXTanswers, documents 1586 and 1587.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RDP exception on HP 712/80
Date: 1 Sep 1994 22:53:04 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <345m0g$5gf@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Keywords: RDP
Hi,
Last week I loaded NEXTSTEP on our HP 712/80. Most
everything went fairly smoothly and the machine has run
well all week. Today I tried to connect the machine to our
ethernet and ran into a problem. The machine usually hangs
early during the boot sequence (I tried about 12 times and
it hung about 10 times) . The message I get is:
Raise RDP exception 6 code 1 subcode 18d968
Waiting for RDP connection...
(Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
I have no idea what RDP even stands for, much less what
these code and subcode values mean. Also, typing c or r
has no effect and I end up having to physically pulling the
plug. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks,
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: swearing@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: eCesys P90 hardware experiences?
Message-ID: <1994Sep1.163909.71790@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Date: 1 Sep 94 16:39:08 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
I would be interested to know what experiences people have had with the
P90 hardware from eCesys. Does it seem to be well made, perform to
expectations, etc.? Does it also perform well as a DOS/Windows machine?
Are there other products that are worth considering as an alternative that
can be ordered as a similar turnkey (or almost) solution?
Thanks in advance for your replies via e-mail.
J. Swearingen
U. of Kansas
Mechanical Engineering Dept.
swearing@carter.engr.ukans.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Number 9 GXE64Pro Problems
Date: 1 Sep 1994 23:49:21 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <345pa1$ftn@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I just installed a #9GXE64Pro card, and now have beautiful colors.
Unfortunately, I have observed two problems:
[1] When I use 1280*1024*16bit [76Hz] on my NEC 6FG, the screen
is positioned far to the left. Even after using the
monitor's position button all the way to the right,
I get a 1cm border on the right side.
Can the card be adjusted? Can the driver by adjusted?
(I am aware that this is 2 Hz above the rated monitor refresh,
but the driver allows only 76 Hz or 60Hz??!!??)
[2] When I hit reboot, it switches back into VGA mode
to tell me to wait or that it is restarting. The display
however flickers like crazy. This is more a nuisance than
anything worrisome, of course.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: paulownia@aol.com (Paulownia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Wiill my Intel Premier Pentium 60 MHz Work?
Date: 1 Sep 1994 19:16:08 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <345nbo$ced@search01.news.aol.com>
I have an Intel manufactured Premier Pentium motherboard witha 60 MHz CPU.
It has AMIBIOS version 1.00.08.AF1. I have two 4x36 70ns SIMMS for total
of 32 Megs. I will be buying cheapo Adaptec to install from SCSI CD-ROM
then run off IDE. I will have ATI Mach 64 PCI probably. Please let me
know if this will work or not.
Matt Webster
paulownia@aol.com
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:36:23 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Message-ID: <94244.18362334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP! Problems with Maxtor on 030 Cube!
Ok -- I bought a Cube with an optical-drive only in it a few weeks ago with
plans to put a HD in it. The NeXT that I have been using at school (also
an 030 cube) has a Maxtor XT-8380S drive in it (which came in it originally
from NeXT) -- so, I bought one of those to use for mine, knowing that it
should work properly. Well, The drive was DOS formatted when I got it -- I
hooked it up to the cube, booted from the optical, and, as expected, got the
message that it couldn't recognize the disk and did I want to initialize it.
I, of course, said yes -- it began initializing the drive and went through
the superblock back-up creation. At the end of doing that, it suddenly
gave two "Bad magic number" errors and reported that the initialization
failed.
I took the drive to my PC and low-level formatted it (which went fine -- no
errors reported). I then did a full disk verify under DOS -- again, no
errors. I booted into NeXTSTEP on my PC, and again got the unrecognized
message, as expected because I hadn't partitioned or formatted it, and told
it to go ahead of initialize as a NeXT disk. This worked fine! Everything
looked to be correct. I then used it a bit (copied to it, then deleted,
etc) to test it -- no problems. I then shutdown the machine and moved the
drive back to my Cube (which, by the way, is running NS 3.0 as I only have
the beta of 3.1 black and don't want to create an OD with a 3.1beta to
boot!) When the cube boots, it detected the drive as a "MMAXTOR [...]"
instead of just "MAXTOR [...]" as it should and reported that it could
not read the label properly. When I logged in, it asked if I wanted to
format it because it couldn't recognize it (should a 3.0 black be able
to recognize a NeXT disk that was formatted under 3.2Intel? Or has the
filesystem been changed significantly?) In any case, I said Yes again,
and this time it appeared to format properly (no errors reported during
the format), but when it then tried to mount the device, it reported
"directory" errors twice, but still appeared to mount. When I click
on the disk (either the icon or the directory in the browser), my
Manager dies and forces me to log out!
The disk, as I said, appears fine under everything else! Any suggestions??
Any specific jumper settings that might be wrong? (The fact that it sees
it as a "MMAXTOR" instead of "MAXTOR" has me thinking that it may not be
communicating properly with the drive -- but I dunno. Both DOS and
NS/Intel see the proper manufacturer's-label name.)
Any/all suggestions appreciated. People with the same drives in Cubes
that might now the jumper settings so that I could compare them -- if
you could tell my the settings, It'd be great (I really shouldn't go
tearing open the school's NeXT to check it's jumper settings, but will
if I have to! :)
Thanks!
- John...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Modem and 030 question
Message-ID: <CvH7Eq.HpA@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 00:16:01 GMT
Ran tip and TipTop with a Supra Fax 14.4 V.32bis.
Both could not configure the modem.
What do I do?
Running NS 3.2. When I change the board to an 040, it
works fine.
David
From: kkt@u.washington.edu (Patrick Scheible)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 mewg simms
Date: 2 Sep 1994 00:29:48 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <345rlt$be8@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <342qo8$25l@mojo.eng.umd.edu> <344ugj$e2r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
>Turbo color and late model nonturbo color NextStations will accept SIMMs
>up to 16 MB. Older nonturbo models take SIMMs up to 4 MB.
Are you sure? The FAQ says 32 MB.
-- Patrick
From: cjones@gse.ucla.edu (Chad Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem and 030 question
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 1994 17:53:32 -0700
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <cjones-0109941753320001@fiver.cse.ucla.edu>
References: <CvH7Eq.HpA@ucdavis.edu>
In article <CvH7Eq.HpA@ucdavis.edu>, dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David
Bradford) wrote:
> Ran tip and TipTop with a Supra Fax 14.4 V.32bis.
>
> Both could not configure the modem.
>
> What do I do?
>
> Running NS 3.2. When I change the board to an 040, it
>
> works fine.
>
>
> David
David- Did you use an 040 cable? To make this work with the 030 board
you'll have to get
I cable that isn't rigged for hardware handshaking. Also the 030 will not
be able to do more than
9600 baud no matter what you do.
robert
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UCLA Graduate School of Education and Information Studies
"You know what Stuart? I like you. You're not like the other people here in the trailer park."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Melissa O'Neill)
Subject: Re: ST43400N formatting to 1024byte sectors wanted
Message-ID: <1994Sep2.002957.27501@cs.sfu.ca>
Organization: Faculty of Applied Science, Simon Fraser University
References: <345i9n$dts@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 00:29:57 GMT
In three next newsgroups, Ivo Welch <ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu> asked:
> Is there a program that formats an ST43400N disk drive to 1024byte
> sectors? I understand that this will speed up the system substantially,
> and add some megabytes.
>
> I already have the disk at 512byte sectors and two partitions. This
> utility needs to be running under NS/FIP, not NS/040.
>
> I am looking either for instructions, or for a utility program I would buy
> that will do this.
Well, I did the equivalent on a Quantum Empire 1080S, using sdformat, but
that was on black hardware, so I can't be 100% certain it's a MAB. You could
look on the archives (e.g. cs.orst.edu) and find out.
On modern drives 1024 byte sectors may not necessarily mean more space.
It didn't on my Quantum drive, it wound up with indentical capacity (but,
obviously, half the number of sectors).
Hope this helps,
Melissa.
---
I am Woman, hear me Roa... oh, sorry, was I interrupting... no no, it wasn't
important... no, really; it's fine. // Melissa O'Neill <oneill@cs.sfu.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Opinions on 21" monitors wanted
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep1100258@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:02:58 GMT
I'm looking for a 21" (or maybe 20") color monitor to be used with a
high-end PC running NeXTstep and possibly Linux at resolutions of
about 1280x1024 in 16 or 32 bit color at 76 Hz and I'm at my wits end.
I've read every review of high end monitors in every industry rag for
half a year and while they generally list the same monitors their
assessments of the respective quality varies drastically. The
opinions on the net are even more diverse. No nearby dealer has any
monitors in this size on display and the university doesn't seem to
own any I could have a look at, so in effect I'll have to buy it mail
order sight unseen.
I'm looking for a monitor in a street price range of $2k-$2.5k and
there doesn't seem to be a dearth of monitors in that category. Among
the quality entrants there is the NEC 6FGP, the Nanao F760iW and the
IBM 21P as well as a host of monitors from minor or less reputable
companies which I'd be hesitant to purchase from unless there was a
very good reason to. So please if you have any experience (personal
or otherwise) with any of the above monitors (or others in that
category) please let me know.
While I do read all the groups in the newsgroups line, email is faster
for me, so I'd appreciate it if you emailed me your responses (in
addition to posting, if you wish to).
Thanks !
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler)
Subject: Re: Stealth64 Drivers... When?
Message-ID: <rbzCvHEEw.HHB@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <343gki$dse@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 02:47:20 GMT
kbekirog@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kaya Bekiroglu) writes:
>Does anyone know when (and if) drivers for the Stealth64 will be
>availible for NeXTstep?
They are already available on ftp.next.com or you can get them by
sending mail to nextanswers@next.com.
I am running a Diamond Stealth64 VLB right now at 1024x768 16bit
color and it works great!
--
<Rodger>
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From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What is beter the Diamond Stealth S3 964 or ATI Turbo Graphic 64-bit?
Date: 1 Sep 1994 13:12:04 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <344jv4$ado@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
What is better the Diamond Stealth S3 964 or ATI Turbo Graphic 64-bit graphics
card? Also, can the ATI Turbo Graphic 64-bit w/ 4Mb display 32bit color at 1132x864
with 74Hz refresh rate?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 MB SIMMs
Date: 2 Sep 1994 03:43:01 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <346705$j2f@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <345rlt$be8@news.u.washington.edu>
In article <345rlt$be8@news.u.washington.edu> kkt@u.washington.edu (Patrick
Scheible) writes:
-> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
->
-> >Turbo color and late model nonturbo color NextStations will accept SIMMs
-> >up to 16 MB. Older nonturbo models take SIMMs up to 4 MB.
->
-> Are you sure? The FAQ says 32 MB.
32 MB SIMMs is the correct answer, as that would give 128 MB total
as advertised. Bye bye swap file problems ;-)
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 Summary Please...
Date: 2 Sep 1994 03:50:48 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3467eo$ja3@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Aug31224918@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Aug31224918@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
-> As far as I can tell the Dell XPS90 is likely to come as close to this
-> requirement as you are going to get today. It even comes by default
-> with the GXE64Pro which is one of the best supported graphics cards
-> available today. All you need to add is a supported SCSI card (like
-> an Adaptec 1542).
None of the "stock" configs I checked into featured that
card by default: it is a $199 upgrade for the card with 2 MB
VRAM. Another recent post indicated they do not offer the
4 MB option, but you can get it from other sources.
You can order the ISA Adaptec 1542 SCSI card, but Dell
seemed to indicate to me that they wouldn't delete the 340
MB IDE disk (the smaller they will sell), which is
strange. You do get a credit for down-grading from the 540
MB IDE drive, which is too big for NEXTSTEP 3.2, as crazy as
that sounds.
You an also get a credit for deleting the Dell monitor, and
order a better unit such as the Viewsonic 17.
What would really make this system a NEXTSTEP power contender
is a PCI SCSI card driver from NeXT or some other vendor.
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DEC XL Server
Date: 1 Sep 1994 22:30:23 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu
Message-ID: <346d9f$5rr@nunki.usc.edu>
Hi netters,
I am considering getting a DEC XL Server to run NeXTSTEP. I'd like to
hear your experience and suggestion on this machine.
Thanks.
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From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Double head HP?
Message-ID: <1994Sep2.092922.20370@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:29:22 GMT
Hi,
I'm using one CRX-24 graphics system on my HP725/75 (NeXTSTEP of course).
I want a second monitor attached. Is it possible to mix the graphics
systems, i.e. can I attach a grayscale graphic additionally or do I have
to add a similar CRX-24? Does NeXTSTEP/HP support this double head like it
does on good old cubes?
Robert.
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From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Double head HP?
Date: 2 Sep 1994 10:13:10 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <346trm$sou@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <1994Sep2.092922.20370@fokus.gmd.de>
In article <1994Sep2.092922.20370@fokus.gmd.de> rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) writes:
>I'm using one CRX-24 graphics system on my HP725/75 (NeXTSTEP of course).
>I want a second monitor attached. Is it possible to mix the graphics
>systems, i.e. can I attach a grayscale graphic additionally or do I have
>to add a similar CRX-24? Does NeXTSTEP/HP support this double head like it
>does on good old cubes?
I would assume you can't do this, but there is nothing in the release
notes to either confirm or disprove this.
I too would like to exercise the second monitor card option on my 712,
and I am sure there are Intel users who want this option also.
Anyone else? Maybe we should start a petition (?)
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From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit
Message-ID: <CvAw5J.uy@damonc.tor.hookup.net>
Keywords: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit
Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 14:27:19 GMT
Is there a driver in the works for the ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit
board? I'm trying to do an install for a friend, and he has the VLB 4MB
board, but not having a whole lot of luck with the stock ATI Driver (which
was written for the 68800 chipset, not the 68860 chipset in the Turbo 64.
We're stuck in 640 x 480 greyscale right now...SUURE would be nice to be
able to harness the power of this board!!
Anyone??
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From: warozzi@mmm.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help with internal HP SCSI floppy
Date: 2 Sep 1994 12:56:13 GMT
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN 55144-1000 US
Message-ID: <3477dd$l0i@dawn.mmm.com>
I just installed a SCSI floppy in my HP 715/75, but I can't seem to
get NeXTSTEP to do anything with it (other than acknowledge its presence
during the boot sequence). Has anyone had any success in installing
such a drive? What's the magic incantation to make it work?
Regards,
Bill Rozzi
warozzi@mmm.com
From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: UltraStor 34F
Date: 2 Sep 1994 13:13:09 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Message-ID: <3478d5$r60@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Is the UltraStor 34F compatible with NSFiP? I know it's not listed, but I
thought that this may be b/c UltraStor has gone Ch. 11. I'm pretty sure
it's AHA-154x compatible.
LT
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From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: That Old NeXTstation Color startup problem...
Message-ID: <CvIBpy.9B8@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <345750$6v5@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:46:44 GMT
In article <345750$6v5@umd5.umd.edu> seanl@necco.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) writes:
> Hi everybody. We've come across an old NS Color with, oh, 12 Megs of
> memory and a 105Meg hard drive. It looks like it's got 3.2 on it (at least
> the user stuff), and a 21-inch monitor.`
>
> THE PROBLEM: On initial boot-up, the computer works fine for, oh, 30
> minutes. It then freezes up, keeping the image on the screen but other than
> that heading out to nil-space. No keyboard input, nothing.`
have the RAM inspected.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 mewg simms
Date: 2 Sep 1994 16:31:07 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <347k0b$ral@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <345rlt$be8@news.u.washington.edu>
In article <345rlt$be8@news.u.washington.edu> kkt@u.washington.edu
(Patrick Scheible) writes:
>Turbo color and late model nonturbo color NextStations will accept SIMMs
>up to 16 MB. Older nonturbo models take SIMMs up to 4 MB.
> Are you sure? The FAQ says 32 MB.
There is some possiblility that my info might be old. 32 MB SIMMs haven't
been around too long.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 Summary Please...
Date: 2 Sep 1994 16:59:28 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <347llh$r3f@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <3467eo$ja3@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <3467eo$ja3@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> What would really make this system a NEXTSTEP power contender
> is a PCI SCSI card driver from NeXT or some other vendor.
>
> --
> Nathan "USENET" Janette
Which I bought from Talus (info@talus.com). I think the cost was about
$200 (NCR card plus software). It increased my disk throughput by roughly
a factor of 1.5-2 relative to the Adaptec. In other words, it was as good
as the EISA DPT card I was using earlier.
I still have to try out if it works with the tape driver---but I'll wait
with this until NeXT comes out with 3.3. and talus with a new driver for
3.3.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 mewg simms
Date: 2 Sep 1994 17:15:24 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <347mjc$mhg@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
References: <345rlt$be8@news.u.washington.edu> <347k0b$ral@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
: In article <345rlt$be8@news.u.washington.edu> kkt@u.washington.edu
: (Patrick Scheible) writes:
: >Turbo color and late model nonturbo color NextStations will accept SIMMs
: >up to 16 MB. Older nonturbo models take SIMMs up to 4 MB.
: > Are you sure? The FAQ says 32 MB.
Where is the FAQ? anyone know for sure????????
: There is some possiblility that my info might be old. 32 MB SIMMs haven't
: been around too long.
: -- Todd Takken
: takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Benchmarking Software Found
Message-ID: <1994Sep2.181032.27161@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 18:10:32 GMT
The mysterious benchmarking software has been located and sent to me. I
now have a question:
Should I make the source available to everyone, or just a binary?
I would normally make the source available, but there's the problem
of vendors tampering with the code. I don't know if this is too much
an issue, but I'd like to see a public debate here before making
a decision.
I am verifying it, and will be testing our systems. We're in the process
of getting some HPs, and do already have a sun so it will be tri-fat
and quad-fat when possible.
Comments please!
- db
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From: Norman Field <norman@curie.igpp.ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where to Repair NeXT Printer
Date: 2 Sep 1994 19:20:01 GMT
Organization: UCLA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <347tt2$srf@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Where can I get my broken NeXT printer serviced?
The problem seems to be in the power supply (possibly only
a failed fuse, but I can't seem to get in there to check).
I live in Los Angeles and was hoping to be able to take the
printer somewhere around here.
Norman Field
System Administrator
UCLA
norman@curie.igpp.ucla.edu
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Benchmarking Software Found
Date: 2 Sep 1994 19:23:18 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <347u36$c35@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <1994Sep2.181032.27161@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <1994Sep2.181032.27161@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca writes:
>I would normally make the source available, but there's the problem
>of vendors tampering with the code.
Any vendor dumb enough to tamper with publicly available benchmarks
will get what they deserve when someone else runs the real benchmarks
on said vendors machine.
IMO, It's a good idea to have benchmarks open for public scrutiny,
makes for good checks all around.
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From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI card rev 2
Date: 2 Sep 1994 18:44:59 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Message-ID: <347rrb$rp1@pith.uoregon.edu>
I have a ATI GUP 2 Meg VLB card with revision 2 ROMS. I bought it only a
few days ago and assumed it would have the latest (rev 3, right?) roms on
it. The compatibility chart specifies revisions 3 and 6 as compatible.
Does anyone have any experience with revision 2 roms under NS/FIP? Does
ATI offer ROM upgrades or should I just return the card and get a new
one (hopefully with the rev 3 roms).
Thanks
Please e-mail
Nick Fogelson
fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu
From: dhsmith@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP Driver Information: 3.2 and 3.3 Issues
Date: 2 Sep 1994 18:19:05 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <347qap$s6@rosie.next.com>
Keywords: Driver, 3.2, 3.3
There have been quite a few posts to this newsgroup discussing
driver issues. In an attempt to resolve some of the frequently
asked questions, Bob Lawton (Strategic Technology Manger, NEXTSTEP
for Intel Processors) and I will be posting general and specific
updates about NS/FIP driver issues. This first post is a general
update regarding 3.2 vs. 3.3 drivers. Look for additional updates
to follow. (As always, consult the NS/FIP Hardware Compatibility
Guide before purchasing hardware.)
Darren Smith
---------------
General update on NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Drivers - Sept.
2, 1994
NS/FIP 3.2 drivers on 3.3
NeXT Developed and Supported Drivers
NeXT is planning on updating all NeXT developed and/or supported
3.2 drivers to work with 3.3 systems. Customers should use these
new drivers on all NS/FIP 3.3 based systems. NeXT will not support
3.2 drivers on a 3.3 system.
Third Party Drivers
Note: NS/FIP 3.3 does not prevent the use of some types of 3.2
drivers. Although 3.2 drivers may work with 3.3, NeXT recommends
only 3.3 based drivers for use on a 3.3 based system.
The following is an overview of what to expect regarding drivers
developed by third parties. Note: Although some classes of 3.2
drivers (see below) may work with 3.3, NeXT does not provide
customer support for third party drivers.
Graphics (Custom LocalBus, VL-Bus, EISA) - Graphics drivers may
work with 3.3 without modifications. Note: Since 3.2 did not
support 8-bit color, existing graphics drivers will need to be
updated and enhanced to support 8-bit color modes. In general, any
existing graphics driver should be able to be enhanced to support
8-bit color in the same resolutions as are currently supported in
8-bit grayscale.
Sound (Custom LocalBus, ISA) - Sound drivers may work, but will
not improve in quality, or take advantage of 3.3's improvements in
sound support.
LAN (Custom LocalBus, EISA, ISA) - LAN drivers may work with no
modifications.
SCSI (Custom LocalBus, VL-Bus, EISA, ISA) - SCSI drivers may work
with no modifications.
PCI Drivers (All types) - Since NS/FIP 3.2 did not provide a
centralized PCI support mechanism, individual drivers had to
provide that functionality themselves. In many cases this
involved modifying system level resources. The result is that 3.2
PCI drivers may not be able to work in concert with each other.
NS/FIP 3.3 provides a centralized PCI resource management
mechanism which all 3.3 PCI drivers are required to use. A 3.2
PCI driver loaded on a 3.3 system may attempt to modify the system
level resources that the 3.3 PCI Mechanism already controls. The
resulting conflict could render the system unusable until the
offending 3.2 PCI driver is removed. In some cases (notably
graphics), 3.2 PCI drivers tend to be more benign and may
actually work with 3.3, though they will not benefit from the
functionality that the 3.3 PCI Mechanism provides. In any event
NeXT does not recommend or support the use of any 3.2 PCI driver
installed on NEXTSTEP 3.3.
NS/FIP 3.3 drivers on 3.2
NS/FIP 3.3 drivers are not designed to work on 3.2. In addition,
the 3.2 installer may not be able to install and configure 3.3
drivers. NeXT does not recommend or support the use of 3.3 drivers
on 3.2.
From: jk@exnext.com (John Karabaic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: workaround for PAS-16 on Gateway 2000 P5-90
Date: 2 Sep 1994 19:35:34 GMT
Organization: Senco Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <347uq6$4cn@itserver.senco.com>
This is an abridged copy of an email I sent to ask_next:
NextAnswer 1158 (1158_Pro_Audio_Spectrum_16_Sound_Adapter.rtfd) mentions
that the PAS might have trouble on IRQ 5 on some systems. We had a
similar problem on the subject machine, but the sounds were not repeating
infinitely, as the NA said, but only partly (like a skipping LP record).
I did notice that they all seemed to skip in the exact same place, as far
as my ear could tell.
I changed the DMA channel from 7 to 0, and the problem went away. There
were some pops in the sound which lessened when I changed the IRQ to 15
from 5.
For those of you who are more PC-hardware-literate than I am, does the
order of DMA channels matter?
Those of you having sound card problems on other PC's might try this and
report back...
--
John S. Karabaic, jk@exNeXT.com, 513 825 6266, 513 825 0443 (fax)
Senior Software Engineer, Vanguard Software Corporation
Opinions expressed are mine, not Vanguard's or SENCO's
From: Lance Mannion <mannion@don't.bother>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where to Repair NeXT Printer?
Date: 2 Sep 1994 19:01:38 GMT
Organization: mic
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <347sqi$sl8@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Where can I get my broken NeXT printer serviced?
The problem seems to be in the power supply (possibly only
a failed fuse, but I can't seem to get in there to check).
I live in Los Angeles and was hoping to be able to take the
printer somewhere around here.
Norman Field
System Administrator
UCLA
norman@curie.igpp.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: seanb@netcom.com (Sean Brandt)
Subject: Gateway 2000 P5-90?
Message-ID: <seanbCvIsCr.FJC@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 20:46:03 GMT
I am looking at buying a machine for NS/FIP & DOS (Uch!) So far I have
looked at the Gateway P5-90 and the Zeos Pantera 90, I'll take the
Gateway! But, has anyone tried to install NS/FIP on the P5-90? The one
I'm looking at is configured as follows:
Pentium 90Mhz
Ati GUP Mach 64 w/4MB
32 MB Ram
1 GB PCI harddrive (I'm not sure if it's ISA or SCSI)
And I'll be purchasing an NEC 3x CD-ROM seperate because
the one that Gateway is selling is a proprietary interfac
(Or has anyone made it work?)
Thanks in advance,
Sean.
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From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: need sharp ppd - is there bbs?
Date: 2 Sep 1994 21:20:02 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3484u2$ok8@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I foolishly read through bt did not save the posts on the
Sharp laser printer, and since I have decided to buy one - could
someone please let me know where I can get the ppd file?
Can I download it from a bbs somewhere?
I have ordered the 600 dpi Postscript model.
thanx in advance,
patricia
NeXTMail very welcome, BTW
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: oh yeah mouse and serial drivers too
Date: 2 Sep 1994 21:29:05 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3485f1$ovo@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
More information that I forgot to save in my haste to leave the
country with my wonderful little Cirrus notebook running NS...
Yeah the serial port does freak out above 9600 baud, what a drag.
Didn't someone post info on drivers for higher speed?
And - I tried out a PS/2 mouse the other day but contrary to
what I had read, it didn't work.
I noticed that Configure only seems to have PS/2 keyboard listed,
and only serial ports are listed under mouse.
What gives?
Sorry if I am requesting reruns! But it's been a hectic summer and
I am totally new to this plug-and-scratch-your-head-and-post-to-
the-net-and-ask-for-drivers-and-then-maybe-play world outside of the
holistic comforting Universe of Black!
And I left everything in my other computer....
Ommm-motorolaaaaaa....
-patricia
NeXTMail okay, okay?
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Device Driver available ?
Date: 2 Sep 1994 21:05:14 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34842a$mhj@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <94Aug29.111636@EE.Stanford.EDU>
In article <94Aug29.111636@EE.Stanford.EDU> park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju
Park) writes:
> Hello netters.
>
> I'm considering buying a Pentium PCI system and wondering
> if device drivers for
>
> 1) ATI Graphics Pro Turbo PCI
We offer both the card and the driver.
> 2) Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller
Available shortly :-))
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Commmunications Corporation
steve@talus.com
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ? video drivers for NEC Versa 75EC
Date: 2 Sep 1994 21:17:01 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3484od$nhk@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <1994Aug29.180251.3967@meretrx.com>
In article <1994Aug29.180251.3967@meretrx.com> mmanning@meretrx.com
(Michael Manning) writes:
>
> Are video drivers available now, from any source, that will drive the
> NEC Versa 75EC external monitor at the 1024 X 768 8bit that the
> hardware is capable of? Are the 3.3 pseudo color drives going to
> support the higher res also, or just 640 X 480 on the flat panel?
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking regarding the Versa
resolution....do you mean 8-bit grayscale or the 8-bit color that's going
to be available in 3.3?
We have 16-bit color is available on a laptop that's shipping today
running NS 3.2. The external resolution is already higher than 640x480
(800x600) and we expect to see higher resolution flat panels in the coming
months.
The 16-bit color is SUBSTANTIALLY better looking than 8-bit! :-))
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
steve@talus.com
(713) 578-1434
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ST43400N formatting to 1024byte sectors wanted
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 18:20:18 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0iNuIWO00iV64_IqYE@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Sep2.002957.27501@cs.sfu.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 2-Sep-94 Re: ST43400N
formatting to .. by Melissa O'Neill@cs.sfu.c
> On modern drives 1024 byte sectors may not necessarily mean more space.
> It didn't on my Quantum drive, it wound up with indentical capacity (but,
> obviously, half the number of sectors).
Very true.
I believe that all drives with "digital servo" actuators cannot be
physically reformatted to 1024 byte sectors. Some will allow you to set
the sector size to 1024, but they will actually just pair together two
512 byte sectors, thus giving no performance or space improvement.
However, when you actually can change the physical sector size to 1024,
you reduce the number of sector prologues and intra-sector gaps by 2,
thereby resulting in more space, which is how 1024 byte sectors provide
more space then 512 byte sectors if the drive can support them. And, of
course, you get half the number of kernel traps to read a given amount
of data (*), so you also get a performance increase with the larger
sector size.
-----------
(*) Unless your kernel/SCSI device driver reads more then one sector at
a time, but I don't believe that NeXT's Mach kernel will do so. If it
does, will someone (presumably from NeXT) please correct me, since this
fact makes quite a difference as the 'tunefs' man page indicates:
-a maxcontig
This specifies the maximum number of contiguous blocks
that will be laid out before forcing a rotational delay
(see -d below). The default value is one, since most
device drivers require an interrupt per disk transfer.
Device drivers that can chain several buffers together
in a single transfer should set this to the maximum
chain length.
-Chuck
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From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Re: Using SoundBlaster SCSI-II with Next Step for Intel
Message-ID: <CvIss4.K7@aeon.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Cities in Dust
References: <1994Aug31.190222.10224@afit.af.mil>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 20:55:16 GMT
Lt Terry A Wilson USAF (twilson@afit.af.mil) wrote:
> I'm looking for drivers and information on running next step on a PC with
> the Sound Blaster with SCSI-II interface. I also want to know if Next
> step will alow me to use the SCSI-II interface from the sound blaster card
> to access my cd-rom drive.
The SCSI-II Interface of the SoundBlaster is basically the same
as a Adaptec 1510 (i.e. 1520 without BIOS - based on the Adaptec
AIC6360 chip). That means you can use the AIC6x60 driver available
from NeXTanswers. Acessing a CD-ROM drive with the driver works too
at least for data CDs. With a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive
I was out of luck when I tried playing audio CDs. But that could be also
the fault of the 3401.
The drawback of this interface is that you don't have a SCSI-BIOS on
the SoundBlaster and hence you cannot boot from a SCSI disk connected
to the it, i.e. you need a IDE disk to boot NS or another SCSI interface
with BIOS.
As for the sound of the SoundBlaster itself there is a Public Domain
(or Freeware?) driver for it but it didn't work for me. According to the
author it works currently only in EISA boards. I've ISA/VLB.
Thomas
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From: Mike_Paquette@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Double head HP?
Date: 2 Sep 1994 19:48:22 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <347vi6$va@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994Sep2.092922.20370@fokus.gmd.de>
In article <1994Sep2.092922.20370@fokus.gmd.de> rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de
(Robert Fischer) writes:
> I'm using one CRX-24 graphics system on my HP725/75 (NeXTSTEP of
course).
> I want a second monitor attached. Is it possible to mix the graphics
> systems, i.e. can I attach a grayscale graphic additionally or do I have
> to add a similar CRX-24? Does NeXTSTEP/HP support this double head like
it
> does on good old cubes?
NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for Intel and HPPA does not support multi-headed
configurations. (For the curious, multi-headed support for these
platforms requires some Window Server and device driver modifications,
and, on the Intel platform, a second framebuffer that doesn't respond to
all the !#$%%!@ VGA addresses by default.)
If NeXT were to support this, I'd suggest a second CRX-24 for best
results. (No window depth conversions, and generally snappy response
times, along with no wierd interactions between differing graphics
subsystems.)
Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM
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Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility,
and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer.
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From: bruce@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Bruce Bresnahan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP DAT
Date: 2 Sep 1994 20:50:11 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <348363$hbr@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
We have a GateWay 486/66 running NextStep 3.2 and are trying
to get our DAT drive working. The drive is a HP 35470a. when I start
the dump command it seems to access the tape drive (lights blink)
but get a write error.
wizard:/private/etc/DUMPS:1# /usr/etc/dump 1ubsdf 200 1500 15000 /dev/nrst0 /dev/sd2a
DUMP: Date of this level 1 dump: Fri Sep 2 14:25:20 1994
DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
DUMP: Dumping /dev/rsd2a (/GregsGig) to /dev/nrst0
DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
DUMP: estimated 300253 tape blocks on 1.20 tape(s).
DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
DUMP: Tape write error 1 feet into tape 1
DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") n
DUMP: "Yes" or "No"?
DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") no
DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
Has anyone got one of these drives working? Maybe you could give
a poor NextStep rookie some hints.
thanks in advance
bruce
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Purdue University
1364 Psychological Sciences, Room B130 Phone: (317) 494-6867
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1364, USA FAX: (317) 496-1264
From: hcole@zia.nrcabq.com (Howard R. Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dead key on original Black keyboard
Date: 3 Sep 1994 01:17:38 GMT
Organization: Engineering International Inc., Public Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <348iri$5rn@mack.rt66.com>
Recently the number '9' key on my five year old vintage Next
keyboard stopped working. I can hammer on it to my hearts
content and nothing happens. Does anyone know what the typical
failure mode is for these keys? Can I replace the key? (Hey,
I'm handy with a soldering iron too...).
Any and all advice welcome.
- HRC
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Dell XPS 90 Summary Please...
In-Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu's message of 2 Sep 1994 03:50:48 GMT
To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep2090343@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.94Aug31224918@capitalist.princeton.edu> <3467eo$ja3@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 13:03:43 GMT
In article <3467eo$ja3@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Aug31224918@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
-> As far as I can tell the Dell XPS90 is likely to come as close to this
-> requirement as you are going to get today. It even comes by default
-> with the GXE64Pro which is one of the best supported graphics cards
-> available today. All you need to add is a supported SCSI card (like
-> an Adaptec 1542).
None of the "stock" configs I checked into featured that
card by default: it is a $199 upgrade for the card with 2 MB
VRAM. Another recent post indicated they do not offer the
4 MB option, but you can get it from other sources.
Hmm. At least two of the stock configs I saw advertised in the latest
Byte come with this card by default, although on closer examination it
turns out that some of the lower-end configurations don't. In any
case it can't hurt to make sure you get the right card when you order.
Having just yesterday ordered one of these machines, let me add a few
points.
Yes, there seems to be some confusion at Dell about this point, but
they do not have the 4 MByte version of the GEE64Pro available right
now. However, Number Nine at (617)674-0009 will mail you an upgrade
from stock for $199.
The minitower I ordered was configured with 32 MBytes of RAM (using
two of four sockets so you can upgrade to 64 or 96 MBytes later
without throwing away your old memory chips), a 540 MByte IDE drive
(to boot from and install DOS/Windows/OS/2/whatever), a 2 MByte
GXE64Pro, but no CDROM drive, monitor or SCSI card. The total price
for that was $3200 (no educational discounts). I upgraded from 1 to 3
years of next-day on-site service for $199, to a Lexmark keyboard for
$50 and a combo disk drive for $50. Delivery time was quoted at 2
weeks.
You can order the ISA Adaptec 1542 SCSI card, but Dell
seemed to indicate to me that they wouldn't delete the 340
MB IDE disk (the smaller they will sell), which is
strange. You do get a credit for down-grading from the 540
MB IDE drive, which is too big for NEXTSTEP 3.2, as crazy as
that sounds.
The best deal of a disk drive which I found was for a 2.1 GByte
Seagate Barracuda (the fastest drives you can get today) together with
an Adaptec 1542CF for $1.7k. I tried to get the 4.2 GByte Barracuda
which is advertised but apparently not available yet anywhere.
Carl Edman
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Question (Suggestion) on P5-90 System
Date: 2 Sep 1994 09:03:26 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <346m8e$16n@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <94Aug31.161646@EE.Stanford.EDU> <CvFLIs.9D5@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>The only really usable ISA based ethernet card is the Intel EtherExpress.
>Even with that card, NS/FIP network performance is disappointing (but stable
>& hassle free).
Disappointing? I got 450 kB/s with ftp between my Intel box (EtherExpress)
and a 712/60. Do you consider this as disappointing? What performance do
you think is normal?
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From: sam2cool@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Kin Kan Samathur Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which mouse for 040Cube non-D
Date: 3 Sep 1994 07:27:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3498hg$6gi@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hey,
My mouse is dead, so looking for a new mouse which works fine
with the 040 cube non-ADB machine. I read in this news group that
someone bought a Microsoft mouse and need to do the cutting and
connecting job for a DIN-8 connector in order to get it working! But I
hope to have something work just out of the box, other than the original
NeXT mouse.
Any info may help! Thanks in advance!
Sam.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: TP connection between 2 machines
Message-ID: <CvIwG7.3HH@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 22:14:30 GMT
I know it's possible... to connect two machines directly via
twisted pair by modifying the cable. However, I can't find
the wiring diagrams to do this. Could someone please e-mail me
or post the information? Thanks!
--
Bill Chin - bchin@andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 3 Sep 1994 00:28:41 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <CvAw5J.uy@damonc.tor.hookup.net>
Damon F. Cooper (damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net) wrote:
: Is there a driver in the works for the ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit
: board? I'm trying to do an install for a friend, and he has the VLB 4MB
: board, but not having a whole lot of luck with the stock ATI Driver (which
: was written for the 68800 chipset, not the 68860 chipset in the Turbo 64.
: We're stuck in 640 x 480 greyscale right now...SUURE would be nice to be
: able to harness the power of this board!!
: Anyone??
Yes, a driver for the Graphics Pro Turbo is available NOW from Talus
Imaging (713-561-0700) Ask for Dan Kramer. The board will give you
1280x1024, 32-bit color, VERY FAST.
Jay Fuchs
Jaytron Products Corporation 1-800-327-5180
Suppliers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, & Custom Solutions
(305) 653-6925 (305) 654-2815 Fax
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: Number 9 GXE64Pro Problems
Message-ID: <1994Sep3.171011.26336@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <345pa1$ftn@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 17:10:11 GMT
In article <345pa1$ftn@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
>
> I just installed a #9GXE64Pro card, and now have beautiful colors.
>
> Unfortunately, I have observed two problems:
>
> [1] When I use 1280*1024*16bit [76Hz] on my NEC 6FG, the screen
> is positioned far to the left. Even after using the
> monitor's position button all the way to the right,
> I get a 1cm border on the right side.
The NEC 6FG[p] is not rated for this display resolution and refresh rate.
You can't go beyond 72 or 74Hz, I think. You may damage your monitor
by driving it at this rate.
> Can the card be adjusted? Can the driver by adjusted?
I submitted the lack of additional rates for the #9 as a bug when
it was in beta. It was ignored either because it was ignorable,
or they couldn't do it for some reason (who knows why).
> [2] When I hit reboot, it switches back into VGA mode
> to tell me to wait or that it is restarting. The display
> however flickers like crazy. This is more a nuisance than
> anything worrisome, of course.
It's a nuisance indeed. A bug in the driver? I don't know. I tend
to use control-numlock myself, as this avoids the VGA reset.
- db
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From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adjusting bent picture on a NeXT 21" monitor?
Date: 3 Sep 1994 17:29:35 GMT
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <34abpv$bhu@nobugs.bmt.gun.com>
Hi,
The picture on my old 21" NeXT monitor is slightly squished on the bottom 1/3.
Has anyone opened up a color NeXT monitor to adjust the picture before, and are
the controls readily apparent (as they are on some Trinitron monitors, for
instance)? Thanks in advance,
Tim
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Using SoundBlaster SCSI-II with Next Step for Intel
Date: 3 Sep 1994 18:58:27 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34ah0j$iaa@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <CvIss4.K7@aeon.in-berlin.de>
In article <CvIss4.K7@aeon.in-berlin.de> thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas
Wolfram) writes:
> Lt Terry A Wilson USAF (twilson@afit.af.mil) wrote:
> > I'm looking for drivers and information on running next step on a PC
with
> > the Sound Blaster with SCSI-II interface. I also want to know if Next
> > step will alow me to use the SCSI-II interface from the sound blaster
card
> > to access my cd-rom drive.
>
>
> The SCSI-II Interface of the SoundBlaster is basically the same
> as a Adaptec 1510 (i.e. 1520 without BIOS - based on the Adaptec
> AIC6360 chip). That means you can use the AIC6x60 driver available
> from NeXTanswers. Acessing a CD-ROM drive with the driver works too
> at least for data CDs. With a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive
> I was out of luck when I tried playing audio CDs. But that could be also
> the fault of the 3401.
> The drawback of this interface is that you don't have a SCSI-BIOS on
> the SoundBlaster and hence you cannot boot from a SCSI disk connected
> to the it, i.e. you need a IDE disk to boot NS or another SCSI interface
> with BIOS.
>
> As for the sound of the SoundBlaster itself there is a Public Domain
> (or Freeware?) driver for it but it didn't work for me. According to the
> author it works currently only in EISA boards. I've ISA/VLB.
Well, the SoundBlaster driver that came on our 3.3 disk didn't work
either...so we finally gave up and just wrote one that works:-)) (I hope
this isn't an indication of the "fixes" we'll see from NeXT in 3.3)
Look for a beta test announcement on comp.sys.next.announce early next
week if you're interested in testing it. We also hope to have a new
version of Simon Says for Intel working with the SoundBlaster very
shortly. If this is of interest, send us mail at: info@talus.com
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
steve@talus.com
(713) 678-1434
From: harrison@clark.net (Harrison Consulting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Recommendations for Hard drive for cube
Date: 3 Sep 1994 19:03:25 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <34ah9t$out@clarknet.clark.net>
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
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Hi all,
I am interested in purchasing an external hard drive for my
ancient (030) cube. I am interested in any sizes from 300MB to 1GB.
Does anyone recommend any specific drives and have any good prices and
suppliers? I am interested in a package which contains the enclosure,
power supply, drive, SCSI interface, etc.
Thanks a lot.
Scott Harrison.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 MB SIMMs
Date: 3 Sep 1994 19:35:40 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34aj6c$r8@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <347mjc$mhg@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
In article <347mjc$mhg@mojo.eng.umd.edu> veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T.
Wang) writes:
> Where is the FAQ? anyone know for sure????????
Archive-name: NeXT-Hardware-RAM-FAQ
Last-modified: Sat Sep 3 15:33:18 EDT 1994
Version: 3.03
TABLE OF CONTENTS:
------------------
N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
N2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
N3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin
"Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo"
NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz),
NeXTcube (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 16
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin low profile
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB
The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in
the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the
small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install
the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide
the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously.
Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines,
but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with
ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect
parity errors.
[One user adds the following unverified claims:]
It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not
boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb
parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an
exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next.
You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I
have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person.
[Jimmie Quan, NeXT Hardware Service, adds:]
The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series
of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph.
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT)
NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to
fit and work.
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any
faster than the 100 ns units.
NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 4
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 128 MB
For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will
be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns.
NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine
uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using
the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with
your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the
message Testing system... disappears, press
command-command-tilde (~ on the numeric keyboard). Under these
circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards including new 25 MHz
NeXTstations and all Turbo systems will return messages reporting
the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old
25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70
nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four
sockets.
[John Graves, Hardware Engineering, NeXT Computer, Inc. adds]
The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number
of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be
tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just
enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with
fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance.
"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other
than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular
allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus
transfers.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes.
It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool: about
six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To remove
SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM, rest the
head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and pivot the
tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM up about 1/8"
from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side, and the SIMM can be
then removed by hand.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
This list contains only a few vendors; prices listed may change and are
provided as examples only.
There is significant day-to-day fluctuation in prices, especially
since the destruction of a factory in Japan in July that manufactured
resin used in chips. Prices are currently very high.
First Tech Stratum Technologies
Austin, TX
800-533-1744
512-258-3570
512-258-3689 (fax)
[Prices current as of 21-Jul-94]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 34
4x8-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 128
1x9-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 38.50
4x9-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 142
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 138.50
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 275
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 575 (non-composite)
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 515 (composite)
1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 159
2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 319
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 654 (non-composite)
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 579 (composite)
Lifetime Warranty.
Marco International
800-621-4668 (Within US/Canada)
303-449-9191
800 447 8448 (CT Office)
[Prices current as of 21-Jul-94]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 38.50
4x8-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 129
1x9-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 40.50
4x9-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 157
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 148
1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 171
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 295
2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 345
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 585 (non-composite)
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 645 (composite)
8x32-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $1250
8x36-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $1410
Lifetime Warranty, toll-free support, 24hr RMA.
"NeXT certified".
Chip Merchant
9541 Ridgehaven Court
San Diego, CA 92123
(800) 426-6375
South Coast Electronics
Tustin, CA
(800) 289-8801
714-669-9503
Impediment
(617) 837-8877
____________________________________________________________________________
Editor: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: moto@cs.cmu.edu (Motonori Shindou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: TP connection between 2 machines
Date: 04 Sep 1994 00:58:08 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <MOTO.94Sep3205818@GS81.cs.cmu.edu>
References: <CvIwG7.3HH@nextsrv1.andi.org>
In-reply-to: bchin@andi.org's message of Fri, 2 Sep 1994 22:14:30 GMT
>>>>> "Bill" == Bill Chin <bchin@andi.org> writes:
Bill> I know it's possible... to connect two machines directly via
Bill> twisted pair by modifying the cable. However, I can't find
Bill> the wiring diagrams to do this. Could someone please e-mail me
Bill> or post the information? Thanks!
RX+ 1 <-------> 3 TX+
RX- 2 <-------> 6 TX-
TX+ 3 <-------> 1 RX+
TX- 6 <-------> 2 RX-
I've been doing this for the last 6 month and having no problem.
--
===
Motonori Shindou
CMU SCS Graduate Student
e-mail: moto@cs.cmu.edu
NiftyServe: GEG04056
TEL: 412-362-9636
FAX: 412-362-9634
From: mitchell@starbase.neosoft.com (Mitchell Urguhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Western Digitals BBS #??
Date: 4 Sep 1994 01:01:15 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <34b68r$nob@uuneo.neosoft.com>
Iknow, Iknow I am in the wrong area..... Sorry I am lost . :)
Does anyone have the Ph# of the Western Digital BBS ? I have crashed
my database that had all that stuff ... need it pronto-quicko
The bbs # or an FTP site if it exists would be VERY helpful right now.
Best Regards,
Mitchell Urquhart AKA mitchell@starbase.neosoft.com
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Opinions on 21" monitors wanted
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 4 Sep 1994 01:14:49 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <34b729$ah2@news.bu.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Sep1100258@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
: I'm looking for a 21" (or maybe 20") color monitor to be used with a
: high-end PC running NeXTstep and possibly Linux at resolutions of
: about 1280x1024 in 16 or 32 bit color at 76 Hz and I'm at my wits end.
: I've read every review of high end monitors in every industry rag for
: half a year and while they generally list the same monitors their
: assessments of the respective quality varies drastically. The
: opinions on the net are even more diverse. No nearby dealer has any
: monitors in this size on display and the university doesn't seem to
: own any I could have a look at, so in effect I'll have to buy it mail
: order sight unseen.
: I'm looking for a monitor in a street price range of $2k-$2.5k and
: there doesn't seem to be a dearth of monitors in that category. Among
: the quality entrants there is the NEC 6FGP, the Nanao F760iW and the
Hmm, out of the monitors in a lab of workstations, which are hooked up to
Suns, RS6000 machines, NeXT and NeXTSTEP systems, I'd have to say it looks a
lot like this:
Necs are great at up to 17" or so, the 21" model is frankly not really
too impressive when stacked against other high-end monitors.
Mitsubishi models vary very widely ain their quality and rangqe from junk, to
really sharp, so its hard for me to say, except use extreme caution in buying
one you have no personally seen hooked up to your type of tsystem.
Most of the CAD systems and heavy graphics machines are all using some type
of trinitron from either Nanao, or Sony. Two models which in particular stand
out as very crisp, bright colors, and sharp tubes are:
Nanao Flexscan F780iW, which is a 21 inch tube, that goes to 16x12.
Sony GDM-2038, which is a 20 inch tube, that also goes up to 16x12.
Up to 1280x1024, I'd go with the Sony, which is a little cheaper, and offers
the same extremely high clarity, if you're going to be running 16x12, the
Nanao is steadier at that resolution, but its also about $1000 more then the
Sony.
I think the GDM-2038 has recently been replaced by the 20se1, or some such
model #, which is the same monitor but with energy saver features.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: NS/Fip 32 bit colour Vlb Video Card suggestions needed
Message-ID: <1994Sep4.012211.9834@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchicago strn fanclub
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 01:22:11 GMT
Hello!
Well, I'm about to buy a video card for use with NS/Fip 3.3 (when it comes
out). I need to run my computer in 800x600 w/ 32 bit color. It would be
nice if it could do 32bit colour in higher resolutions, too, but it is not a
requirment for the card.
What is the best card I can get for this?
Thanks,
Larry.
--
|ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu | AKA: Ea, he whom nothing escapes |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: Re: Syquest 270mb 3.5" removable HD
Message-ID: <CvL355.ts@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
References: <TKONISHI.94Aug31233851@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 02:34:16 GMT
In article <TKONISHI.94Aug31233851@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
tkonishi@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Tetsuro KONISHI) writes:
>
> By the way, does anybody know if the SyQuest 270MB removable HD drives
> can read and write the 105MB SyQuest cartridges?
>
> --
> Tetsuro KONISHI, R-lab., Dept. of Phys.,Nagoya Univ.,Nagoya,464-01, Japan
Yes they can.
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
PGP key available on request.
--
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/Fip 32 bit colour Vlb Video Card suggestions needed
Date: 4 Sep 1994 04:24:32 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <34bi60$neq@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Sep4.012211.9834@midway.uchicago.edu>
E. Larry Lidz (ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: Hello!
: Well, I'm about to buy a video card for use with NS/Fip 3.3 (when it comes
: out). I need to run my computer in 800x600 w/ 32 bit color. It would be
: nice if it could do 32bit colour in higher resolutions, too, but it is not a
: requirment for the card.
: What is the best card I can get for this?
: Thanks,
: Larry.
A really cool card is the Number Nine GXE64 Pro.
2 MB version ---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 76 Hz
4 MB version ---> 1024 x 768 x (888) @ 76 Hz
---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 76 Hz
An above average card is the Diamond Viper 2 MB.
2 MB version ---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 72 Hz
I have had experience with these two and can vouch that their performance is
acceptable.
.........................kris
Kristopher Magnusson
Z*nc Software Incorporated
Tecknicle Publicashuns
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Some questions on Ethernet
Message-ID: <940903.205631.6z5.rusnews.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 20:56:31 -0600
References: <31AUG199408431325@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E) writes:
> 2. Any comments on 3Com's ELINK III?
we have this at work. flawless under dos (novell dos 7), but never
could get it to work reliably with ns 3.1 (only had 1 ns 3.2 machine).
> mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
didn't quite match headers
--
Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Driver Information: 3.2 and 3.3 Issues
Date: 3 Sep 1994 17:23:54 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <34a7uq$2hk@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <347qap$s6@rosie.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: Driver, 3.2, 3.3
dhsmith@next.com writes:
>Sound (Custom LocalBus, ISA) - Sound drivers may work, but will
>not improve in quality
Will the 3.3 sound drivers work reliably and give improved quality?
>NS/FIP 3.3 provides a centralized PCI resource management
>mechanism which all 3.3 PCI drivers are required to use. A 3.2
>PCI driver loaded on a 3.3 system may attempt to modify the system
>level resources that the 3.3 PCI Mechanism already controls. The
>resulting conflict could render the system unusable until the
>offending 3.2 PCI driver is removed. In some cases (notably
>graphics), 3.2 PCI drivers tend to be more benign and may
>actually work with 3.3, though they will not benefit from the
>functionality that the 3.3 PCI Mechanism provides. In any event
>NeXT does not recommend or support the use of any 3.2 PCI driver
>installed on NEXTSTEP 3.3.
So would you please tell us which PCI cards will be supported by
NeXT in NeXTSTEP 3.3? I think this question is the most important one!
Do the 3rd-party developers (miro, ELSA, Talus) already work on 3.3
compliant PCI drivers?
Thanks for answers to these questions,
Markus.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Question (Suggestion) on P5-90 System
Message-ID: <bchin.778643866@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <94Aug31.161646@EE.Stanford.EDU> <CvFLIs.9D5@nextsrv1.andi.org> <346m8e$16n@marsu.s.bawue.de>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 01:57:46 GMT
mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>bchin@andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>>The only really usable ISA based ethernet card is the Intel EtherExpress.
>>Even with that card, NS/FIP network performance is disappointing (but stable
>>& hassle free).
>Disappointing? I got 450 kB/s with ftp between my Intel box (EtherExpress)
>and a 712/60. Do you consider this as disappointing? What performance do
>you think is normal?
Considering that ethernet is 10mbit/sec, black hardware can do
500-600kbytes/sec and Sun's do 700+, 450kbytes/sec is disappointing.
On a quiet net with 486's & Intel EtherExpress's, I get around 350k/sec
transferring 1mb files to /dev/null with ftp to/from turbo NeXT's.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 P5-90?
Date: 3 Sep 1994 15:50:39 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <34ak2f$4jd@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <seanbCvIsCr.FJC@netcom.com>
Sean Brandt (seanb@netcom.com) wrote:
: I am looking at buying a machine for NS/FIP & DOS (Uch!) So far I have
: looked at the Gateway P5-90 and the Zeos Pantera 90, I'll take the
: Gateway! But, has anyone tried to install NS/FIP on the P5-90? The one
: I'm looking at is configured as follows:
: Pentium 90Mhz
: Ati GUP Mach 64 w/4MB
: 32 MB Ram
: 1 GB PCI harddrive (I'm not sure if it's ISA or SCSI)
: And I'll be purchasing an NEC 3x CD-ROM seperate because
: the one that Gateway is selling is a proprietary interfac
: (Or has anyone made it work?)
I've got an identical system running NS. Gateway is definitely the best
buy around, and beats Zeos, Dell, etc. in becnhmarks. A few things you
should know before buying: The Mach64 card included with the system is a
limited OEM version. Order the system w/o video card, then pick up a GPT
4MB elsewhere (Talus sells the GPT with an NS driver).
2nd - The 1gb HD included with the system is an Enhanced IDE drive - good for Windows,
unusable for NS (I found this out the hard way). Gateway sells a 1gb SCSI
drive, but it's a plain SCSI-2 with an ISA controller. If you want the
best disk system, pick up a Micropolis 2210AV or 2217AV Fast SCSI-2 drive
($800-1200), and either an NCR 53C810 or 825 PCI SCSI controller from
Talus (713-561-0700), with drivers for NS. Talus is readying drivers for the
Adaptec 2940 PCI Fast SCSI-2 controller, and NS 3.3 will have drivers for it.
No matter which PCI SCSI card you get, make sure to get the 1.00.08.AX1 BIOS
revision off of the Intel BBS 916-356-3600 under OEM Platforms/Premiere
PCI II ED/10008AX1.EXE. The BIOS rev shipped on the Gateway systems
(either .05 or .09) will not work with PCI SCSI cards. The CD-ROM
included with the Gateway is proprietary, and will not work with
NS, but the NEC 3x works great.
Finally, make sure Gateway ships the system with 2 16MB SIMMS, not 4 8MB. There
is no extra charge, and it leaves you with 2 free SIMM slots.
Jay Fuchs
Jaytron Products Corporation
(305) 653-6925 (305) 945-2070 (305) 654-2815 Fax jjfox@shadow.net
Suppliers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, and Custom Solutions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer)
Subject: Re: NS/Fip 32 bit colour Vlb Video Card suggestions needed
Message-ID: <1994Sep4.181644.334@nimbus.ruhr.de>
Organization: Private Site, Germany
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 18:16:44 GMT
References: <1994Sep4.012211.9834@midway.uchicago.edu>
E. Larry Lidz (ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: Hello!
: Well, I'm about to buy a video card for use with NS/Fip 3.3 (when it comes
: out). I need to run my computer in 800x600 w/ 32 bit color. It would be
: nice if it could do 32bit colour in higher resolutions, too, but it is not a
: requirment for the card.
I use a miro16si (S3-805i) 2MB - 800x600 8:8:8
1024x786 5:5:5
And the miro32s (4MB) has 32bit colour up to 1408x1024
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [HELP}: NEC 4X CD-ROM
Date: 4 Sep 1994 17:06:03 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <34cups$e9a@sundog.tiac.net>
I have got NEC 4X CD-ROM drive fitted to my NeXT cube with 3.2 running. I
found that the drive gives amasing performance. However I found that
there are two problem so far. It does not play music CD with NEXTSTEP, I
think some software conflicts. It also does not auto-eject CDs. Could
anyone know how can I solve this problem.
Thanks in advance.
shigeru
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit
Date: 4 Sep 1994 18:16:23 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <34d2tn$mc@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay
Fuchs) writes:
> Yes, a driver for the Graphics Pro Turbo is available NOW from Talus
> Imaging (713-561-0700) Ask for Dan Kramer. The board will give you
> 1280x1024, 32-bit color, VERY FAST.
Well, 1152x896, anyway, but thanks, Jay!
Also, the new number is (713) 578-1434, or info@talus.com might be
luckier, as I am starting 'Dan's color laptop North American Tour' fairly
quickly, and other will take your order.
Thanks for the interest in Talus!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
>
>
> Jay Fuchs
> Jaytron Products Corporation 1-800-327-5180
> Suppliers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, & Custom Solutions
> (305) 653-6925 (305) 654-2815 Fax
> jjfox@shadow.net
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Driver Information: 3.2 and 3.3 Issues
Date: 4 Sep 1994 18:39:51 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34d49n$1ag@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <34a7uq$2hk@marsu.s.bawue.de>
In article <34a7uq$2hk@marsu.s.bawue.de> mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus
Wenzel) writes:
> dhsmith@next.com writes:
>
> >Sound (Custom LocalBus, ISA) - Sound drivers may work, but will
> >not improve in quality
> Will the 3.3 sound drivers work reliably and give improved quality?
>
> >NS/FIP 3.3 provides a centralized PCI resource management
> >mechanism which all 3.3 PCI drivers are required to use. A 3.2
> >PCI driver loaded on a 3.3 system may attempt to modify the system
> >level resources that the 3.3 PCI Mechanism already controls. The
> >resulting conflict could render the system unusable until the
> >offending 3.2 PCI driver is removed. In some cases (notably
> >graphics), 3.2 PCI drivers tend to be more benign and may
> >actually work with 3.3, though they will not benefit from the
> >functionality that the 3.3 PCI Mechanism provides. In any event
> >NeXT does not recommend or support the use of any 3.2 PCI driver
> >installed on NEXTSTEP 3.3.
>
> So would you please tell us which PCI cards will be supported by
> NeXT in NeXTSTEP 3.3? I think this question is the most important one!
>
> Do the 3rd-party developers (miro, ELSA, Talus) already work on 3.3
> compliant PCI drivers?
>
> Thanks for answers to these questions,
No one, to the best of my knowledge, is working on 3.3 drivers outside of
NeXT (and possibly not there either). Developers have still not been
given the new driver patches for 3.3, though we're told they'll go out
next week (a story we've heard before). Since there is no "driver kit",
we really don't know what will be required to upgrade our drivers. Talus
will, however, have all of our drivers ready for the release of 3.3, along
with some new ones :-))
As to your question of what drivers will be supported....I think a better
question is: will the drivers supplied by NeXT continue to work unreliably
and will they finally fix the serial driver that's plagued all of us.
Talus has offered several times to fix the serial driver for NeXT at
absolutely no charge. Each time their "not-invented-here" attitude has
prevented this from happening. Let's hope they finally get it right in
3.3!
Another good question would be: when will they fix their "certification"
process that takes 3-6 months and totally hacks off the hardware vendors?
As a friend at DELL pointed out to NeXT (more than once), that by the time
NeXT gets around to certifying a machine, the vendor no longer makes it.
Has anyone seen their list of "certified hardware"? It's a joke. Your
DEC XL is only certified if you don't use the on-board SCSI and add an
Adaptec 1542. This is costing DEC a fortune every month (multiply a
couple thousand machines per month times a couple of hundred dollars) and
you can believe that they're not happy about this.
NeXT has consistantly refused to certify machines running Talus drivers,
even though we've offered them our sources, which was supposedly the
stumbling block. They have gone so far now as to tell vendors that they
will not even accept source directly from Talus and have discouraged
hardware vendors from dealing with us. This will ultimately mean fewer
drivers for the user community and more angry hardware vendors. NCR was
told by NeXT not to buy our SCSI driver and that's why we have to charge
you for it...even though NCR was more than willing to buy it from us and
give it away to you for free. Thank Paul Vais at NeXT for that one.
(Paul_Vais@next.com)
So far DEC, DELL, Intel and AT&T have been refused certification based on
their use of our drivers. DELL subsequently dumped NeXT. The others would
like to and have expressed total frustration with NeXT and its "policies"
that are obviously more driven by personality than good business practice.
Will NeXT ever learn? (silly question)
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: Re: ATI 64 Bit/ SoundBlaster/ BusLogic Drivers on ftp.next.com
Message-ID: <CvLx2q.HE@damonc.tor.hookup.net>
Sender: root@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Operator)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
References: <348u1p$eju@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 13:20:50 GMT
> Yes, a driver for the Graphics Pro Turbo is available NOW from Talus
> Imaging (713-561-0700) Ask for Dan Kramer. The board will give you
> 1280x1024, 32-bit color, VERY FAST.
>
>
>
> Jay Fuchs
> Jaytron Products Corporation 1-800-327-5180
> Suppliers of Motion Detectors, Customer Counters, & Custom Solutions
> (305) 653-6925 (305) 654-2815 Fax
> jjfox@shadow.net
Actually, got a mail from NeXT...the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Turbo 64 Bit
driver will be available from ftp.next.com in the next couple of weeks...
The SoundsBlaster driver will also be available in the same timeframe.
Also, the native BusLogic 32-bit driver is now available from
ftp.next.com...works great! (I was using the Adaptec driver...what a
difference!!)
--
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
NeXTMAIL Welcome!
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/Fip 32 bit colour Vlb Video Card suggestions needed
Date: 4 Sep 1994 19:21:38 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <34d6o2$9bs@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Sep4.012211.9834@midway.uchicago.edu> <34bi60$neq@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Kristopher Jon Magnusson (kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu) wrote:
: E. Larry Lidz (ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: : Hello!
: : Well, I'm about to buy a video card for use with NS/Fip 3.3 (when it comes
: : out). I need to run my computer in 800x600 w/ 32 bit color. It would be
: : nice if it could do 32bit colour in higher resolutions, too, but it is not a
: : requirment for the card.
: : What is the best card I can get for this?
: : Thanks,
: : Larry.
: A really cool card is the Number Nine GXE64 Pro.
: 2 MB version ---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 76 Hz
: 4 MB version ---> 1024 x 768 x (888) @ 76 Hz
: ---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 76 Hz
: An above average card is the Diamond Viper 2 MB.
: 2 MB version ---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 72 Hz
: I have had experience with these two and can vouch that their performance is
: acceptable.
: .........................kris
: Kristopher Magnusson
: Z*nc Software Incorporated
: Tecknicle Publicashuns
Carl Edman pointed out that the Number Nine 4 Mb is also capable of running at
1152 x 864 x (888) @ 76 Hz
...........................kris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NS/Fip 32 bit colour Vlb Video Card suggestions needed
In-Reply-To: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu's message of 4 Sep 1994 04:24:32 GMT
To: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep4102637@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Sep4.012211.9834@midway.uchicago.edu> <34bi60$neq@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 14:26:36 GMT
In article <34bi60$neq@hamblin.math.byu.edu> kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) writes:
E. Larry Lidz (ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: Well, I'm about to buy a video card for use with NS/Fip 3.3 (when it comes
: out). I need to run my computer in 800x600 w/ 32 bit color. It would be
: nice if it could do 32bit colour in higher resolutions, too, but it is not a
: requirment for the card.
: What is the best card I can get for this?
A really cool card is the Number Nine GXE64 Pro.
2 MB version ---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 76 Hz
4 MB version ---> 1024 x 768 x (888) @ 76 Hz
---> 800 x 600 x (888) @ 76 Hz
According to NeXTanswers the 4 MByte Number Nine GXE64Pro goes up to
1152x864 in 32 bit color at 76 Hz under NeXTstep.
Carl Edman
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Question (Suggestion) on P5-90 System
Date: 4 Sep 94 20:50:46 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.778711846@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <94Aug31.161646@EE.Stanford.EDU> <CvFLIs.9D5@nextsrv1.andi.org> <346m8e$16n@marsu.s.bawue.de> <bchin.778643866@news.andi.org>
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>Considering that ethernet is 10mbit/sec, black hardware can do
>500-600kbytes/sec
>On a quiet net with 486's & Intel EtherExpress's, I get around 350k/sec
>transferring 1mb files to /dev/null with ftp to/from turbo NeXT's.
Hah! This is absolutely funny, because I got 300 kB/s maximum to a
black Station, and I got 450 kB/s to the 712/60 - with the same Intel
EtherExpress host!!!
How do you explain this? My conclusion was that the Station is the
bottleneck, not my NS/I system.
Markus.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: specs of loadable fs available ?
Message-ID: <1994Sep4.013832.310@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 01:38:32 GMT
Hi,
I'd like to know if the specs of NeXT loadable filesystem (in /usr/filesystem) are
available. I need to communicate with an amiga user and I bored of using DOS floppy (with 8 char names limitation), so why not writting my own loadable fs ?
Does anyone knows something about that ?
Thanks.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Scanner Solution Sought
Message-ID: <CvMJAo.F0E@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 21:20:48 GMT
Here is what I want to do with my NeXTStation.
1) Scan in a form.
2) Create Editable fields on the form
with some kind of software on my NeXT Station.
3) Be able to call up the form and fill in
the editable fields with pertinant data.
4) Print the form on the Laser Printer.
I need to know what Scanner, Scanner Driver and Software
combination will allow me to do this.
I do not need anything fancy. Just 1-4 above, that is all.
Thanks, David Bradford
P.S. It is okay to try to sell me something. I might buy it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Opinions on 21" monitors wanted
Message-ID: <CvMnp5.u3@eskimo.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <CEDMAN.94Sep1100258@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 22:55:52 GMT
Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
: I'm looking for a 21" (or maybe 20") color monitor to be used with a
: high-end PC running NeXTstep and possibly Linux at resolutions of
: about 1280x1024 in 16 or 32 bit color at 76 Hz and I'm at my wits end.
While I feel they are color richest, Carl, I decided against
trinitrons because I won't tolerate the barely discernable mesh wires.
During my research, I decided on either Nanao or Nokia. Nanao's
F780IW was out of my(as well as your) price range, so I settled on
the 445X. Both monitors are capable of 1600x1200@80Hz. If having VGA
capability is important, then the F780IW should not be your choice.
Check out Byte's May 1994 issue for a discussion of these two
monitors.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Preparing to drop DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought
Message-ID: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <CvMJAo.F0E@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 04:20:13 GMT
David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: Here is what I want to do with my NeXTStation.
: 1) Scan in a form.
: 2) Create Editable fields on the form
: with some kind of software on my NeXT Station.
: 3) Be able to call up the form and fill in
: the editable fields with pertinant data.
: 4) Print the form on the Laser Printer.
: I need to know what Scanner, Scanner Driver and Software
: combination will allow me to do this.
: I do not need anything fancy. Just 1-4 above, that is all.
: Thanks, David Bradford
: P.S. It is okay to try to sell me something. I might buy it.
What you need is a Umax UC630 scanner (Macintosh version) and a copy of
PowerScan software. Both were sold as a bundle by a company called HSD
which is now defunct.
Michael McNabb wrote PowerScan, and he occasionally reads this bulletin
board. He may be able to sell you a copy.
Once you are able to scan and store tiff's, you can import the tiff into
FrameMaker and create text fields over the tiff as a background. I
recommend compressing the tiff and importing it by reference into
Frame. It works fine. I've done it.
The combination I recommended is good for color (but at a very reasonable
price). the Umax monochrome scanner may work, but I haven't tried it.
Quite a few scanners were sold by HSD so you might be able to pick one up
used. There is also an old version of the scanner software called scanX,
but it is much inferior to PowerScan.
Good luck,
George Crow
From: paulownia@aol.com (Paulownia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How will my system feel?
Date: 5 Sep 1994 00:35:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <34e75m$gnk@search01.news.aol.com>
I have used the black hardware and am thinking of buying NS for my Intel
system. Would someone who has used both please help me so I can know if
this is going to work for me. I don't want to invest $500 in something
that is going to dog slow. If that's the case, I will just run Windows and
be unhappy, as opposed to buying NextStep and being unhappy. I have used
a NeXT Station Turbo which had 24 MB of RAM, black and white, a 340 MB
SCSI drive and a 40 MHz 68040 (I think). I also briefly played with a
Color NeXT Dimension but I don't remember what speed processor that was.
I do know that it had 32 meg of RAM.
My system is Intel Premier Pentium 60 MHz CPU with 32 Meg of RAM. I have
a 546 Seagate ST5660A Enhanced IDE drive, which I hear will not work,
which sucks. `So I will be using an NCR PCI card from Talus with their
Fast/Wide SCSI card, which I will connect to my 1.05 Gig Micropolis MC2210
Fast SCSI-2 hard disk. I will have either ATI Graphics Pro Turbo or #9
GXe64 Pro video. I would like to run in 32-bit color, but I am not sure
about that. It depends on the speed, which I don't know about yet, hence,
this post.
I have used a 486DX2-66 NEC Image 466es with 16 Meg of RAM running at
800x600. I thought that was dog slow. It must have been running at a high
resolution or needed more RAM or something, but it was almost unusable. I
want to avoid that very situation. Please tell me what you have and how
it works. You can share NXBench numbers, but I don't really understand
how that relates to real life. Thanks.
Matt Webster
paulownia@aol.com
From: paulownia@aol.com (Paulownia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will this crazy setup work?
Date: 5 Sep 1994 00:39:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <34e7d5$gpv@search01.news.aol.com>
I have one machine and want to run a number of different OS's on my Intel
machine. I have an IDE drive which I have divided into 2 partitions
(320/200=520 total). I want to install OS/2 boot manager and switch
between DOS and OS/2. I also want to buy the Talus NCR PCI SCSI Card and
connect that to my 1 Gig SCSI drive. I want to install NS/I on that drive
on one partition and have two other partitions formatted FAT for some
other purpose. Following this?
I want to be able enter my CMOS and disable the IDE drive and boot from
the SCSI disk into NS. Then I want to be able to turn the IDE on and boot
DOS or OS/2. When I am using DOS or OS/2 I want to be able to see those
two FAT partitions on the SCSI disk.
Is this going to work? Is there a better way to do this that doesn't cost
any more money? Will I be able to install Windows NT on one of the SCSI
partitions and later add that to the OS/2 Boot Manager? Somebody must be
doing this. I appreciate the help.
Matt Webster
paulownia@aol.com
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Upgrading '040 Cube
Date: 5 Sep 1994 04:53:08 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <34e87k$ipm@galaxy.ucr.edu>
I was wondering if I could upgrade my 040 mono to color. Is
there a card that's still available to do this?
Thanks in advance...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: [HELP}: NEC 4X CD-ROM
Message-ID: <bchin.778713787@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <34cups$e9a@sundog.tiac.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 21:23:07 GMT
shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) writes:
>I have got NEC 4X CD-ROM drive fitted to my NeXT cube with 3.2 running. I
>found that the drive gives amasing performance. However I found that
>there are two problem so far. It does not play music CD with NEXTSTEP, I
>think some software conflicts. It also does not auto-eject CDs. Could
>anyone know how can I solve this problem.
If I remember correctly, I had to switch a NEC 3Xe from SCSI-1 to
SCSI-2 for auto-eject and music playing to work.
Maybe it's the same on yours.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Arnaud Scomparin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which Local Bus supported by STEALTH 64 Driver ?
Date: 5 Sep 1994 08:01:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <34ej88$o5g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
As I'm planning to buy a 2mb or 4mb PCI Stealth 64, I have a look at the
driver package and README file and get confused: according to that file,
the driver supports 4mb boards in VL-Bus only... Is this an error in
the description file, or is the driver lacking support for PCI 4mb boards ?
Could Stealth 64 PCI users tell me how it works (2mb & 4mb) with NeXT
available driver ?
Arnaud
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [HELP}: NEC 4X CD-ROM
Date: 5 Sep 1994 08:08:38 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <34ejm6$4ts@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <bchin.778713787@news.andi.org>
Bill Chin writes
> If I remember correctly, I had to switch a NEC 3Xe from SCSI-1 to
> SCSI-2 for auto-eject and music playing to work.
>
> Maybe it's the same on yours.
But the NeXTcube does not have SCSI-2 command. I wonder. Anyway I will
give it a try. Do you know anything about PhotoCDs?
shigeru
From: tspflaum@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (tspflaum@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 1522 driver available?
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 10:57:55 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Message-ID: <34etjjEjd1@uni-erlangen.de>
Is there a SCSI driver for the Adaptec 1522 available? (This is some kind
of 1542 without DMA I think).
Please email.
- Thomas
---
Thomas
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought
Date: 5 Sep 1994 17:00:10 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34fiqq$fah@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com>
In article <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
writes:
> David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
> : Here is what I want to do with my NeXTStation.
>
> : 1) Scan in a form.
>
> : 2) Create Editable fields on the form
> : with some kind of software on my NeXT Station.
>
> : 3) Be able to call up the form and fill in
> : the editable fields with pertinant data.
>
> : 4) Print the form on the Laser Printer.
>
> : I need to know what Scanner, Scanner Driver and Software
> : combination will allow me to do this.
>
> : I do not need anything fancy. Just 1-4 above, that is all.
>
> : Thanks, David Bradford
>
> : P.S. It is okay to try to sell me something. I might buy it.
>
> What you need is a Umax UC630 scanner (Macintosh version) and a copy of
> PowerScan software. Both were sold as a bundle by a company called HSD
> which is now defunct.
>
> Michael McNabb wrote PowerScan, and he occasionally reads this bulletin
> board. He may be able to sell you a copy.
>
> Once you are able to scan and store tiff's, you can import the tiff into
> FrameMaker and create text fields over the tiff as a background. I
> recommend compressing the tiff and importing it by reference into
> Frame. It works fine. I've done it.
>
> The combination I recommended is good for color (but at a very
reasonable
> price). the Umax monochrome scanner may work, but I haven't tried it.
>
> Quite a few scanners were sold by HSD so you might be able to pick one
up
> used. There is also an old version of the scanner software called
scanX,
> but it is much inferior to PowerScan.
>
> Good luck,
>
> George Crow
Glad you mentioned it :-)) We're just readying the press release calling
for beta testers for the newest Talus product...Polar Storm (don't ask
where we got the name :-) Polar Storm is the most comprehensive scanning
package available for NS and it's the only scanner software with support
for the HP, Espon, Umax (HSD) and Leaf scanners. Watch for the press
release in the next couple of days and sign up as a beta test sight.
As far as which scanner to buy....our programmers gave the highest marks,
by far, to the HPIICX. The Umax was their second choice, based on its low
price. The Leaf 45 is by far the best film scanner available at a decent
price, short of going to a $40,000 plus drum scanner. (If anyone's
interested in drum scanners, we found that the Screen 1030 was the "best
of breed" in the $40,000 price range. If there are customers, we'll do
that one as well)
We'll be offering bundles with the software and either the HP or the Umax
(or the Leaf)...or just the software if you prefer. The price will be
"competitive" :-))
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
steve@talus.com
(713) 578-1434
(We still think NS is the publishing platform of the future...no matter
what SJ says :-))
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [HELP}: NEC 4X CD-ROM
Date: 5 Sep 1994 17:04:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <34fj20$gfp@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <34ejm6$4ts@sundog.tiac.net>
Bill Chin writes
> If I remember correctly, I had to switch a NEC 3Xe from SCSI-1 to
> SCSI-2 for auto-eject and music playing to work.
>
> Maybe it's the same on yours.
How strange it is! It does work. I still can not understand. NeXTcube
has SCSI-1 interface, but why it require a SCSI-2 setting? However it
still ignore volume control on the CD Player. Is there any solution for
that?
shigeru
From: tspflaum@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (tspflaum@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to use a .pkg during installation
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 17:10:59 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Message-ID: <34fjf3Eler@uni-erlangen.de>
I now got the driver for the adaptec 1522 from ftp.next.com which is
stored in an xxxx.pkg file.
During the installation of NEXTSTEP on the pc I get asked to insert
a disk containing the device driver.
How do I create such a disk form the pkg file?
I don't have access to a running NeXT system.
Pleas email.
---
Thomas
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How will my system feel?
Date: 5 Sep 1994 13:53:06 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <34flu2$90s@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <34e75m$gnk@search01.news.aol.com>
Paulownia (paulownia@aol.com) wrote:
: My system is Intel Premier Pentium 60 MHz CPU with 32 Meg of RAM. I have
: a 546 Seagate ST5660A Enhanced IDE drive, which I hear will not work,
: which sucks. `So I will be using an NCR PCI card from Talus with their
: Fast/Wide SCSI card, which I will connect to my 1.05 Gig Micropolis MC2210
: Fast SCSI-2 hard disk. I will have either ATI Graphics Pro Turbo or #9
: GXe64 Pro video. I would like to run in 32-bit color, but I am not sure
: about that. It depends on the speed, which I don't know about yet, hence,
: this post.
: I have used a 486DX2-66 NEC Image 466es with 16 Meg of RAM running at
: 800x600. I thought that was dog slow. It must have been running at a high
: resolution or needed more RAM or something, but it was almost unusable. I
: want to avoid that very situation. Please tell me what you have and how
: it works. You can share NXBench numbers, but I don't really understand
: how that relates to real life. Thanks.
The P/60 with PCI Fast SCSI, and ATI GPT will run substantially faster
than the DX2, especially if you were running the DX2 in color. NS
requires a MINIMUM of 16MB for 16-bit color. That means it'll run
(barely). In order to actually make use of the system, you'll need to add
RAM. NeXT 24MB is the minimum for 32-bit color, and 32MB will allow you to
run comfortably. Depending on what applications you are running, you may need
to increase RAM further. If you can't install more RAM, running in
16-bit color will leave you with much more free memory to run apps. Also,
the more RAM in your system, the faster NS will perform. The P/60 system you've
described will work well, and will be much faster than the NeXTstation and
486 you're used to.
Jay Fuchs
Jaytron Products Corporation
(305) 653-6925 (800) 327-5180 (305) 654-2815 Fax
jjfox@shadow.net
From: not-for-mail@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (anonymous )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: tonerCartidge for NeXT-laser
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 1994 20:02 MDZ
Organization: RZ Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <19940905200222.not-for-mail@CD47946.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
I wonder where to buy a cheap(!) toner cartidge for my 400dpi NeXT-laser.
Please send non-NeXTmail to stefan.boehringer@ruba.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
thaNks in andvantage
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought
Message-ID: <gcrowCvo978.CL0@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> <34fiqq$fah@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 19:37:56 GMT
: Glad you mentioned it :-)) We're just readying the press release calling
: for beta testers for the newest Talus product...Polar Storm (don't ask
: where we got the name :-) Polar Storm is the most comprehensive scanning
: package available for NS and it's the only scanner software with support
: for the HP, Espon, Umax (HSD) and Leaf scanners. Watch for the press
: release in the next couple of days and sign up as a beta test sight.
: As far as which scanner to buy....our programmers gave the highest marks,
: by far, to the HPIICX. The Umax was their second choice, based on its low
: price. The Leaf 45 is by far the best film scanner available at a decent
: price, short of going to a $40,000 plus drum scanner. (If anyone's
: interested in drum scanners, we found that the Screen 1030 was the "best
: of breed" in the $40,000 price range. If there are customers, we'll do
: that one as well)
: We'll be offering bundles with the software and either the HP or the Umax
: (or the Leaf)...or just the software if you prefer. The price will be
: "competitive" :-))
: Steve Sarich
: Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
: steve@talus.com
: (713) 578-1434
: (We still think NS is the publishing platform of the future...no matter
: what SJ says :-))
Your software sounds great. Does it run on black hardware?
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Driver Information: 3.2 and 3.3 Issues
Date: 5 Sep 1994 09:21:21 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <34eke1$5ed@marsu.s.bawue.de>
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talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
>As to your question of what drivers will be supported....I think a better
>question is: will the drivers supplied by NeXT continue to work unreliably
>and will they finally fix the serial driver that's plagued all of us.
>Talus has offered several times to fix the serial driver for NeXT at
>absolutely no charge. Each time their "not-invented-here" attitude has
>prevented this from happening. Let's hope they finally get it right in
>3.3!
There's no need for fixing the serial driver, because there is Mux, and
Mux performs just wonderfully. Even if the driver is fixed in 3.3, I will
continue using Mux for my modem line.
>As a friend at DELL pointed out to NeXT (more than once), that by the time
>NeXT gets around to certifying a machine, the vendor no longer makes it.
This is really a drag :-(
I started to certify machines and drivers myself, just for me! :-)
>Has anyone seen their list of "certified hardware"? It's a joke. Your
>DEC XL is only certified if you don't use the on-board SCSI and add an
>Adaptec 1542. This is costing DEC a fortune every month (multiply a
>couple thousand machines per month times a couple of hundred dollars) and
>you can believe that they're not happy about this.
I wouldn't go certify neither the serial driver, nor the ProAudio driver,
nor the parallel port driver, ...
>NeXT has consistantly refused to certify machines running Talus drivers,
>even though we've offered them our sources, which was supposedly the
>stumbling block.
You're a member of SJ's black list, I suppose. No way out.
>They have gone so far now as to tell vendors that they
>will not even accept source directly from Talus and have discouraged
>hardware vendors from dealing with us. This will ultimately mean fewer
>drivers for the user community and more angry hardware vendors. NCR was
>told by NeXT not to buy our SCSI driver and that's why we have to charge
>you for it...even though NCR was more than willing to buy it from us and
>give it away to you for free. Thank Paul Vais at NeXT for that one.
>(Paul_Vais@next.com)
Are you sure he is allowed to make decisions like that? Isn't it SJ himself
responsible for it? After the latest horror story of SJ, I come to the
conclusion that this man really lost the sense for reality.
>So far DEC, DELL, Intel and AT&T have been refused certification based on
>their use of our drivers. DELL subsequently dumped NeXT. The others would
>like to and have expressed total frustration with NeXT and its "policies"
>that are obviously more driven by personality than good business practice.
>Will NeXT ever learn? (silly question)
Will SJ ever learn? He does his very best to drive NeXT/NeXTSTEP down.
How shall DEC jump on the "Openstep train" if they even don't get their
PC hardware certified to work???
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: Support for Intel onboard SCSI chip
Message-ID: <1994Sep5.031228.26832@iitmax.iit.edu>
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:12:28 GMT
Hello everyone,
I pulled down the latest hardware compatibility guide, but it didn't
help.
Is the onboard SCSI chip supported on the Intel GX professional?
If not, where can I get a driver for it? Thankyou.
Best regards,
Chris Conley
Chicago
From: jetzer@litsun15.epfl.ch (Laurent Jetzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Logitech SoundMan 16 with NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 06 Sep 1994 07:17:28 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JETZER.94Sep6091728@litsun15.epfl.ch>
Hi,
I read in the LINUX documentation that the soundcard
Logitech SoundMan 16 is compatible with ProAudioSpectrum 16
(http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.1).
Is it true? Does someone use this card with NEXTSTEP?
Someone told me that the soundcard AudioSpectrum Basic (not sure of the exact name)
is also compatible with ProAudioSpectrum 16. Any informations on this or
another compatible card ?
Thanks.
Laurent Jetzer
jetzer@di.epfl.ch
http://litwww.epfl.ch/~jetzer/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: [HELP}: NEC 4X CD-ROM
Message-ID: <bchin.778824140@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <34ejm6$4ts@sundog.tiac.net> <34fj20$gfp@sundog.tiac.net>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 04:02:20 GMT
shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) writes:
>Bill Chin writes
>> If I remember correctly, I had to switch a NEC 3Xe from SCSI-1 to
>> SCSI-2 for auto-eject and music playing to work.
>>
>> Maybe it's the same on yours.
>How strange it is! It does work. I still can not understand. NeXTcube
>has SCSI-1 interface, but why it require a SCSI-2 setting? However it
>still ignore volume control on the CD Player. Is there any solution for
>that?
I don't think NEC's labeling of the drive setting as SCSI-1 and
SCSI-2 is exactly correct. While the hardware interface on
the NeXT machines are SCSI-1, the higher level communications protocol
for the CD-ROM might be SCSI-2. I'm guessing here. Probably it's
more NEC's way of saying... operate in the old way or operate
in the newer standard way.
Again, if I remember correctly, the volume control is a vendor
specific thing... it doesn't work on my Plextor 5028, Toshiba 3301,
or NEC drives. It does work on Sony 541's (the NeXT CD-ROM drive).
Someone with the actual command set definitions could probably shed
more light on this.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems using Quantum Empire 1080S
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 1994 10:10 MDZ
Organization: Ruhr-Uni-Bochum
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <19940906101048.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41017.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
I use white hardware with an Adaptec 1542CF using the new 145x-drivers.
However I couldn't get a Quantum Empire 1080S work with the configuration.
Very unreproducable errors (unexpected kernal exeption trap 2,2,0 mostly)
occured when accessing the disk. Nevertheless the external CD-Rom (NeXT)
and a system installed on the internal IDE-HD work fine.
I have tried out many configurations with external CD-Rom-Drive removed
or attatched and terminations doublechecked. I also tried various
setup-variations for the Adaptec-Card.
Additionally I only use a ATI Mach 32 and a Standard IO/IDE-Combi-Card.
Has anybody had similar problems or knows a remedy?
Thanks in advance.
From: Stefan.Boehringer@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: My NeXT won't power up, please help
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 1994 10:31 MDZ
Organization: Ruhr-Uni-Bochum
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <19940906103102.Stefan.Boehringer@CD41017.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <33ovsl$smq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
In Article <33ovsl$smq@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> "ferng@irisserv (Ferng)" says:
> I turned on my NeXTstation one day, it started to reboot.
> Everything looked like normal for 30 seconds, and then
> the screen shut off, the computer went down in no time.
> There was no power failure. But I can never turn it on
> again. It just died.
When my NeXTStation had his power-supply die, I called NeXT-Germany
what to do. They recommended to measure the voltage of the internal
backup-batterie which should hold 3V at least
(don't remove it from the board)
which is of course also needed to power on.
Since it's not rechargable this may be the problem with your Station.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Support for Intel onboard SCSI chip
Date: 6 Sep 1994 08:44:31 GMT
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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Chris Conley writes
> Is the onboard SCSI chip supported on the Intel GX professional?
Yes, you have to use the Adaptec 6x60 driver, which has recently entered
the driver directory of the NeXTanswers server.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will HP C1716T MO drive work?
Date: 6 Sep 1994 00:01:31 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <34gpir$hrv@anshar.shadow.net>
I am about to purchase a 1.3gb magneto-optical drive, and would like to
know of any experiences using this drive under NS/FIP. It's an HP C1716T,
5.25" full-height SCSI-2 multifunction drive. Will NS 3.2 support this drive?
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Logitech SoundMan 16 with NEXTSTEP ?
Date: 6 Sep 1994 13:27:23 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34hqnr$drg@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <JETZER.94Sep6091728@litsun15.epfl.ch>
Laurent Jetzer (jetzer@litsun15.epfl.ch) wrote:
: Hi,
: I read in the LINUX documentation that the soundcard
: Logitech SoundMan 16 is compatible with ProAudioSpectrum 16
: (http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.1).
: Is it true? Does someone use this card with NEXTSTEP?
Yes, it really seems to be an OEM version of the PAS16.
A friend of mine runs the SoundMan 16 on his EISA/VL combi board
together with an Adaptec AHA-1542 SCSI host adapter. It works nice with
NEXTSTEP, without any dropouts et al.
On on ISA/VL board with an AHA-1542 on the other hand, you won't have
much fun with the SoundMan 16/PAS16.
Gregor
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From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought
Date: 6 Sep 1994 14:56:39 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34hvv7$kk2@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <gcrowCvo978.CL0@netcom.com>
In article <gcrowCvo978.CL0@netcom.com> gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
writes:
>
> : Glad you mentioned it :-)) We're just readying the press release
calling
> : for beta testers for the newest Talus product...Polar Storm (don't ask
> : where we got the name :-) Polar Storm is the most comprehensive
scanning
> : package available for NS and it's the only scanner software with
support
> : for the HP, Espon, Umax (HSD) and Leaf scanners. Watch for the press
> : release in the next couple of days and sign up as a beta test sight.
>
> : As far as which scanner to buy....our programmers gave the highest
marks,
> : by far, to the HPIICX. The Umax was their second choice, based on its
low
> : price. The Leaf 45 is by far the best film scanner available at a
decent
> : price, short of going to a $40,000 plus drum scanner. (If anyone's
> : interested in drum scanners, we found that the Screen 1030 was the
"best
> : of breed" in the $40,000 price range. If there are customers, we'll
do
> : that one as well)
>
> : We'll be offering bundles with the software and either the HP or the
Umax
> : (or the Leaf)...or just the software if you prefer. The price will be
> : "competitive" :-))
>
> : Steve Sarich
> : Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
> : steve@talus.com
> : (713) 578-1434
> : (We still think NS is the publishing platform of the future...no
matter
> : what SJ says :-))
>
> Your software sounds great. Does it run on black hardware?
Yes...runs on both black and white. It's not available for HP as yet.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
steve@talus.com
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Sarah Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Upgrading '040 Cube
Date: 6 Sep 1994 15:06:26 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <34i0hi$bdd@mailer.fsu.edu>
References: <34e87k$ipm@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Buckaroo Bonzai (96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu) wrote:
: I was wondering if I could upgrade my 040 mono to color. Is
: there a card that's still available to do this?
I think you will need a new mother board.
--
========================================================================
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lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
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From: Lt Terry A Wilson USAF <twilson@afit.af.mil>
Subject: Has anyone ever gotten NeXT Step to run on a PC?
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.152048.2397@afit.af.mil>
Keywords: install NeXTSTEP Gateway DPT SCSI IDE
Sender: news@afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:20:48 GMT
I'm trying to get NEXT Step running on my Gateaway 486 PC and am having
complete nightmares. I have a 486DX33 with 8 meg of ram, two IDE hard
drives (one for NEXT and the other for DOS/WINDOWS). I have a DPT2021/95
ISA SCSI-II controller and a toshiba 3401 SCSI CD-Rom. The IDE drives are
run from an IDE controller. I also have a SoundBlaster 16 with a SCSI-II
interface built in. I think I worked all of the IRQ and DMA problems out.
but things are still not working. I boot from a floppy and install NEXT
from the CD-ROM. Everything seems to work fine, it askes me which drive
to install NEXT STEP on and then fornats and install the minisytem. It
then tells me to remove the floppy and press return to continue the
installation. I do and the machine reboots and I get the following
messages:
boot:
boisread error 0x2 @ 0, C:0 H:0 S:0
boisread error 0x2 @ 0, C:0 H:0 S:0
boisread error 0x2 @ 0, C:0 H:0 S:0
boisread error 0x2 @ 0, C:0 H:0 S:0
boisread error 0x2 @ 327615, C:325 H:0 S:15
boisread error 0x2 @ 327615, C:325 H:0 S:15
boisread error 0x2 @ 327615, C:325 H:0 S:15
boisread error 0x2 @ 327615, C:325 H:0 S:15
Config file "/usr/Devices/System.config/Default.table" not found
System config file 'System' not found
boot:
Has anyone else installed NeXTSTEP on a Gateway machine with the DPT SCSI
card? or had simliar problems?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: [HELP]: Recommended Postscript printer for NSI
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.134631.1147@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:46:31 GMT
I am looking to purchase a ps printer for some of our intel boxes here in
the office. Feel free to send me your comments and/or suggestions
regarding this.
Thanks
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: [HELP]: Recommended twisted pair hub
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.153636.1816@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:36:36 GMT
I need to set up a twisted pair network here in our new office. If some
of you experts would send me your recommendations in the purchase of a
12-18 machine hub I would be appreciative.
I am sure things are pretty standard and straight forward, but I am more
interested in options and upgrade capabilities on the devices.
tia
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 11:55:03 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Message-ID: <94249.11550334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 030, 8MB Cube: Add memory or go 040??
Ok -- I currently have an 030 Cube with 8MB of RAM and I'm looking for some
greater speed. I'd like to hear some recommendations on whether to buy
8 more MB of RAM (to fill the 16 SIMM sockets) or instead buy an 040 board
if I can find one (and just use the 8MB on the 040 for now). I can't afford
to do both right now (in fact, I can probably only afford to increase the
RAM right now, but I still thought I'd ask which is best)...
Any/all suggestions and recommendations appreciated...
- John...
P.S. The 030 Cube takes standard 30-pin, 100ns SIMMs, right? Can I use
1x8s or 1x9s? Can I mix them (I currently have 8 1x8s in there, I
believe)? (Basically, if I pull some 30-pin, 100ns 1x9s out of a
PC, will they work?)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Benchmarking Software Found
Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:05:37 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34i40i$4oi@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <347u36$c35@sundog.tiac.net>
lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) writes:
> samurai@hasc.ca writes:
> >I would normally make the source available, but there's the problem
> >of vendors tampering with the code.
>
> Any vendor dumb enough to tamper with publicly available benchmarks
> will get what they deserve when someone else runs the real benchmarks
> on said vendors machine.
It isn't that people will tamper with the benchmarks themselves,
it's that they'll look at the benchmarks and tamper their hardware
so the hardware (maybe) does great on the benchmarks without really
being all that much faster in normal usage.
> IMO, It's a good idea to have benchmarks open for public scrutiny,
> makes for good checks all around.
I'd tend to agree with this, even with the danger of vendor's
optimizing their hardware for the benchmark.
--
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille)
Subject: Re: Upgrading '040 Cube
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.164225.6556@ictv.com>
Sender: usenet@ictv.com
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
References: <34i0hi$bdd@mailer.fsu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:42:25 GMT
Sarah Phillips writes
> Buckaroo Bonzai (96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu) wrote:
> : I was wondering if I could upgrade my 040 mono to color. Is
> : there a card that's still available to do this?
>
> I think you will need a new mother board.
>
Nope, you just need a NextDimension Board, since it's a cube, not a
Station.
NeXT doesn't sell them anymore, but someone might have one they don't want
any more. The trouble is, the people who read this newsgroup know what
they are worth, whereas someone who's company bought into NeXT but doesn't
use them anymore will be hard to find, but probably a lot cheaper. :-)
Robert
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From: bill.edney@mccaw.com (Bill Edney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Non-interlaced mode for Intel GX
Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:00:23 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <34i777$8d@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Hi All -
I have one of those Intel (Pro?) GX machines that has a Mach32 accelerator
chip in it. I currently dual-boot it into either NS or Windoze. Does
anyone know how to get it to go into non-interlaced mode when I'm in
Windozed (it keeps flipping the monitor into interlaced mode and looks
like crap) ??
Thanks,
- Bill
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 030, 8MB Cube: Add memory or go 040??
Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:54:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34iac1$85e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <94249.11550334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
In article <94249.11550334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> John Goggan
<34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
> Ok -- I currently have an 030 Cube with 8MB of RAM and I'm
> looking for some greater speed. I'd like to hear some
> recommendations on whether to buy 8 more MB of RAM (to fill
> the 16 SIMM sockets) or instead buy an 040 board
Buy an 040 board. From my experience with a previous 030 cube and the 040
slabs I now have, your performance with an 040 8MB will be much better
than with an 030 16MB.
> P.S. The 030 Cube takes standard 30-pin, 100ns SIMMs, right?
Right. Steal some memory out of an old Mac.
Can I use 1x8s or 1x9s? Can I mix them (I currently have 8 1x8s in there,
There are rules on what order they have to be in if you mix them. See the
appropriate FAQ. I think the 9s have to be first and then the 8s.
> Basically, if I pull some 30-pin, 100ns 1x9s out of a PC, will they
> work?)
I don't know. Is PC memory different from Mac memory?
-- Todd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Problem using a SCSI DAT drive on an NCR-based PCI SCSI card
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.172912.8816@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 17:29:12 GMT
I am using a JCIS NCR xx810 based PCI SCSI card with an Exabyte 8200c DAT drive
on the SCSI bus. The SCSI BIOS does recognize the drive and reports the name
and SCSI id correctly, but under NEXTSTEP with the Talus driver, any attempt to
access the drive hangs the machine (at least using SafetyNet). I recall some
talk about problems with support of SCSI Tape devices with this card/driver
combo. Does anyone have any information on this?
Thanks...
--
_______________________________________________________________
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| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Solution to problem with Intel Premier PCI/II motherboard and NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.174229.8897@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 17:42:29 GMT
Recently, I wrote about the problem that several of us P90 users were having
with this motherboard and NEXTSTEP (namely, random WindowServer crashes).
After upgrading the BIOS to the newest version (1.00.10AX1 - released on 8/23),
the problems have gone away. It appears that this BIOS version fixes whatever
was wrong with the system.
So, if you are having problems with NEXTSTEP and this motherboard get the new
BIOS revision. It is available via anonymous ftp at wuarchive.wustl.edu in
/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/plato along with some doc files as well.
If you are planning a P90 system purchase, it would appear that the Intel
Premier PCI/II motherboard is now a safe choice for NEXTSTEP users. Just make
sure to get at least rev 1.00.10AX1 of the BIOS. Note that this board is the
same one that Gateway is currently shipping in their P5-90 systems (subject to
change as is everything they ship). Also note that Gateway has their own
version of the BIOS (unfortunately with different rev numbers) but I believe
that the only difference is in the OEM logo area which they use to display
their logo at boot-up. There should be no problem using Intel's BIOS with
those systems.
Happy day... My system is finally stable. Now if I can only get my tape
drive working with the NCR SCSI controller.
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: How to use a .pkg during installation
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.180237.9307@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <34fjf3Eler@uni-erlangen.de>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:02:37 GMT
tspflaum@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de writes
> I now got the driver for the adaptec 1522 from ftp.next.com which is
> stored in an xxxx.pkg file.
>
> During the installation of NEXTSTEP on the pc I get asked to insert
> a disk containing the device driver.
>
> How do I create such a disk form the pkg file?
> I don't have access to a running NeXT system.
>
You don't need to worry about creating a driver disk. There is a bug in the
way the boot kernel checks the Devices directory for your boot drivers. It
will only see the first xx .config dirs (where xx is some unknown relatively
small number). In order to fix the problem, rename create a new Devices
directory, copy all of the files from the old one into the new one, but copy
all of your boot drivers in first (also include the System.config first as
well). Then rename your old Devices directory and rename the new one to
Devices.
This should fix your problem (it did for me).
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| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright)
Subject: Old Cube HD
Message-ID: <Cvq03E.51E@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:16:26 GMT
After many years of total abuse, the hard drive on my cube finally packed
it in over the weekend. It started ticking like a time=bomb and not
responding at all. After I shut down the system and tried to start it
up, it just hangs...'waiting for drive to come ready'. This is one of the
original Maxstor 390mb drives. I was wondering if anyone has had any
experience like this with them? Would it be possible to get it repaired?
(seems to be an electrical/mechanical problem, not a media problem)- or
should I kiss all my data goodbye and start shopping for a new one.
thanx in advance
jay
*******************************************************************
Jason Bright
jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca
"I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma."
-The Wizard of Oz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: 030, 8MB Cube: Add memory or go 040??
Message-ID: <Cvq06G.577@cunews.carleton.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <94249.11550334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:18:16 GMT
John Goggan (34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU) wrote:
: Ok -- I currently have an 030 Cube with 8MB of RAM and I'm looking for some
: greater speed. I'd like to hear some recommendations on whether to buy
: 8 more MB of RAM (to fill the 16 SIMM sockets) or instead buy an 040 board
: if I can find one (and just use the 8MB on the 040 for now). I can't afford
: to do both right now (in fact, I can probably only afford to increase the
: RAM right now, but I still thought I'd ask which is best)...
: Any/all suggestions and recommendations appreciated...
: - John...
: P.S. The 030 Cube takes standard 30-pin, 100ns SIMMs, right? Can I use
: 1x8s or 1x9s? Can I mix them (I currently have 8 1x8s in there, I
: believe)? (Basically, if I pull some 30-pin, 100ns 1x9s out of a
: PC, will they work?)
Go for the memory.
I am still amazed in the speedup I got after I upped my '040 from 8 to
24mb. The paging was virtually eliminated.
later
jay
--
*******************************************************************
Jason Bright
jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca
"I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma."
-The Wizard of Oz
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Solution to problem with Intel Premier PCI/II motherboard and NEXTSTEP
Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:57:18 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Message-ID: <34ie2e$4vg@hamblin.math.byu.edu>
References: <1994Sep6.174229.8897@il.us.swissbank.com>
Y'know what'd be a nice addition to this BIOS--a NeXT or NEXTSTEP logo.
I'd loooove to fire up my Intel Premiere/Plato to be greeted by the charming
and aestheticly pleasing shape of The Cube in the upper left corner.
Any volunteers?
...................................kris
Kristopher Magnusson
Z*nc Software Incorporated
Tecknicle Publicashuns
Eric_Brown (ericb@il.us.swissbank.com) wrote:
: If you are planning a P90 system purchase, it would appear that the Intel
: Premier PCI/II motherboard is now a safe choice for NEXTSTEP users. Just make
: sure to get at least rev 1.00.10AX1 of the BIOS. Note that this board is the
: same one that Gateway is currently shipping in their P5-90 systems (subject to
: change as is everything they ship). Also note that Gateway has their own
: version of the BIOS (unfortunately with different rev numbers) but I believe
: that the only difference is in the OEM logo area which they use to display
: their logo at boot-up.
From: jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 1GB hard drives for black hardware
Date: 6 Sep 1994 19:32:17 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <34ig41$gh8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I am looking to add an external 1GB hard drive to a NeXTStation. I
am willing to pay a bit of a premium for
(1) NEXT support from the distributor
(2) Manufacturing quality and reliability; and
(3) a drive that I would be pleased to use in some future
workstation -- one that is Fast SCSII II, for example.
QUESTION(S): Does anyone have any recommendations regarding drive
manufacturers and suppliers? Has anyone purchased and used a
Micropolis drive, in particular the 4100? Has anyone dealt with
Peripheral Solutions? Other suggestions? Things to keep in mind?
As always, thanks for your time and advice.
--
John Devlin
Department of Philosophy
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
(313) 764-6285
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mmanning@meretrx.com (Michael Manning)
Subject: Re: ? video drivers for NEC Versa 75EC
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.160733.343@meretrx.com>
Sender: mmanning@meretrx.com
Organization: Meretrx, Inc.
References: <3484od$nhk@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:07:33 GMT
In article <3484od$nhk@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
writes:
> In article <1994Aug29.180251.3967@meretrx.com> mmanning@meretrx.com
> (Michael Manning) writes:
> >
> > Are video drivers available now, from any source, that will drive the
> > NEC Versa 75EC external monitor at the 1024 X 768 8bit that the
> > hardware is capable of? Are the 3.3 pseudo color drives going to
> > support the higher res also, or just 640 X 480 on the flat panel?
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you're asking regarding the Versa
> resolution....do you mean 8-bit grayscale or the 8-bit color that's going
> to be available in 3.3?
>
Yes.
I'm looking for pixels, not necessarily color. 8-bit
grayscale or the 8-bit color, either will do.
> We have 16-bit color is available on a laptop that's shipping today
> running NS 3.2. The external resolution is already higher than 640x480
> (800x600) and we expect to see higher resolution flat panels in the coming
> months.
Does this mean that some other laptop (brand and model not
given) other than the Versa has 16bit color and will do
(800x600) on the external with your drivers? If so, that's
very nice, but I have a Versa so it's of little interest to
me.
###################################################
Do you (or does anyone else) have drivers available that will
give me 1024 X 768 on the external monitor in any bit depth
on a NEC Versa 75EC? Grayscale is perfectly acceptable.
##################################################
I asked about 3.3 only as an incidental note, I was
wondering if 3.3 was going to offer the solution I need in
the future, with or without color.
Thanks,
Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: Syquest 270mb 3.5" removable HD
Message-ID: <CvpFr0.A4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
References: <TKONISHI.94Aug31233851@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 10:57:00 GMT
In article <TKONISHI.94Aug31233851@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
tkonishi@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Tetsuro KONISHI) writes:
>
> By the way, does anybody know if the SyQuest 270MB removable HD drives
> can read and write the 105MB SyQuest cartridges?
>
> --
> Tetsuro KONISHI, R-lab., Dept. of Phys.,Nagoya Univ.,Nagoya,464-01,
Japan
Yope, it can. And very well indeed. The difference in prices between the
270MB and the 105MB doesn't make the 105 an interesting choice unless you
have to exchange cartridges with someone who only has a 105MB SyQuest.
Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
From: nhowland@ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printers for NeXT hardware
Date: 6 Sep 1994 12:06:15 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Message-ID: <34i7i7$ev3@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Has anyone out there hooked up any printers besides the NeXT laser to
a NeXTstation? In particular, I was wondering about any of the ink
jet printers currently available for ~$200 or even any Imagewriters, since
I have one of those sitting around.
Neal Howland
nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sstaton@netcom.com (Steven R. Staton)
Subject: Gateway P5-90 hardware drivers
Message-ID: <sstatonCvq6xB.3o1@netcom.com>
Summary: Looking for drivers for Gateway P5 video and audio boards
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 20:43:58 GMT
I have a Gateway P5-90 with Gateway's homebrew hardware on board. Does any
one know of drivers for the ATI AX0 (PCI) video board that comes with it?
The sound card, called "Jazz16", doesn't respond to the default sound drivers
in NS3.2. Is there a SoundBlaster(tm) compatible driver out there?
--
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= Deltos Fleet Computing | are Dark Matter and Stupidity =
= steve@deltos.com [NeXTMail OK] | ;-P ;-P ;-P ;-P ;-P ;-P =
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner Solution Sought
Date: 6 Sep 1994 21:21:41 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34imh5$l18@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com>
In article <gcrowCvn2pt.L7u@netcom.com> gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
writes:
> What you need is a Umax UC630 scanner (Macintosh version) and a copy of
> PowerScan software. Both were sold as a bundle by a company called HSD
> which is now defunct.
PowerScan is now sold by Metrosoft. They offered the latest
upgrade to HSD customers at a very low price, which was great.
I believe HSD has risen again as well?
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: Patching Adaptec1542B.config/PAS sound
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.172427.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 22:24:27 GMT
At one time I had both the Adaptec 1542C and the PAS Sound card working
together in perfect harmony - after editing one of the files in
Adaptec1542B.config.
Unfortunately, I was the victim of a system crash and my patched Adaptec driver
is no longer.
Can someone please tell me:
- which file in Adaptec1542B.config to edit
- what is the change that has to be made (I remember something along the lines
of changing a 6 to a 10 - not much of a help unless you remember exactly what
to change.)
Thanks in advance.
Scott
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Internet Mail Only
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jvega@cs.uno.edu (vega)
Subject: Multi-port cards & floppy B
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.213031.13134@cs.uno.edu>
Organization: Smart Object Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 21:30:31 GMT
I have an Intel machine running NS 3.2. It has both
a floppy A (1.44MB) and a floppy B (1.2MB), however,
I can't seem to get the B drive to work. Then I started
thinking..does NS even support 1.2MB drives? And if so, then,
which address, port, DMA, etc do I set the device too
(in Configure.app)?
Also, (not necessarily in conjunction w/above) I know that
there are 4 COM ports available, either using one of IRQ 3
or IRQ 4. The original two (COM 1&2) are used by
a mouse and PowerGuardian. Is there a way to make the
other two ports available with a multi-port card? I tried,
and it didn't seem to work.
I will appreciate any information or re-direction.
Thanks,
--
-- Jeff Vega
Smart Object Technologies, Inc.
(NeXTMail YES!) e-mail: jeff@smobject.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nikos@cs.cornell.edu (Nikos P. Pitsianis)
Subject: Re: Printers for NeXT hardware
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.221218.16192@cs.cornell.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cornell.edu (USENET news user)
Organization: Cornell University, CS Dept., Ithaca, NY
References: <34i7i7$ev3@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 22:12:18 GMT
In article <34i7i7$ev3@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, nhowland@ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) writes:
|> Has anyone out there hooked up any printers besides the NeXT laser to
|> a NeXTstation? In particular, I was wondering about any of the ink
|> jet printers currently available for ~$200 or even any Imagewriters, since
|> I have one of those sitting around.
|>
|> Neal Howland
|> nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
|>
The 2.0 Documentation has instructions how to connect an Imagewriter.
For a non-poscript printer you'll need a postscript interpreter. There
are both commercial and PD. Check recent articles on comp.sys.next.announce
for an announcement of a PD interpreter.
--
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Cornell University Phone : (607) 255 3042
5151 Upson Hall, Dept of Comp Sc FAX : (607) 255 4428
Ithaca, NY 14853 Home : (607) 277 7630
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Printers for NeXT hardware
Date: 6 Sep 1994 22:01:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34ioro$bk9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <34i7i7$ev3@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>
In article <34i7i7$ev3@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> nhowland@ksu.ksu.edu (Neal
Patrick Howland) writes:
> Has anyone out there hooked up any printers besides the NeXT laser to
> a NeXTstation?
I am using an Apple Personal LaserWriter NT. It works fine with black
hardware.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Old Cube HD
Message-ID: <CvqDL3.D71@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <Cvq03E.51E@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 23:07:48 GMT
In article <Cvq03E.51E@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright)
writes:
..
> one of the
> original Maxstor 390mb drives. I was wondering if anyone has had any
> experience like this with them? Would it be possible to get it repaired?
kiss it goodbye.
Call Mal Steadman at
Fast Access
708-268-8787
I just bought a Fujitsu 3.5" SCSI hard disk
w/ 1.2GB for $680.00
--
personal opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni)
Subject: Re: Old Cube HD
Message-ID: <Cvq8qA.D2B@prosoft.wimsey.com>
Sender: glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (Glen Biagioni)
Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc.
References: <Cvq03E.51E@cunews.carleton.ca>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 21:22:57 GMT
In article <Cvq03E.51E@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@schoolnet (Jason
Bright) writes:
>
> After many years of total abuse, the hard drive on my cube finally
packed
> it in over the weekend. It started ticking like a time=bomb and not
> responding at all. After I shut down the system and tried to start it
> up, it just hangs...'waiting for drive to come ready'. This is one of
the
> original Maxstor 390mb drives. I was wondering if anyone has had any
> experience like this with them? Would it be possible to get it repaired?
> (seems to be an electrical/mechanical problem, not a media problem)- or
> should I kiss all my data goodbye and start shopping for a new one.
>
> thanx in advance
>
If you need to get the data off, the freezer trick might work. It
sometimes frees up a platter that won't spin. Just put the drive
into the freezer for a good period of time, and then try it out.
A colleague of mine did this, but had some problems as it began to
warm up again. So he put it on its side with a cold pack against the
bearing; and voila, he recovered all of the data on the drive.
--
Glen Biagioni
glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: fred@gspring.com (Fred Trevor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Upgrading old 1.0 cube system
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 1994 19:27:05 -0800
Organization: GreenSpring Computers
Message-ID: <fred-060994192705@198.93.137.11>
I've dusted off my cube and have decided to get it running again. I'm
looking for the most inexpensive route, I just want it to run!
It had a problem with the video-ram which I was able to fix w/ new vrams.
Then my optical drive died (it has less than 20 hours of use) I talked with
Bell Atlantic but they were of no use.
The Optical drive is not that big of a deal except that I have no way now
of loading OS's older than 3.0 on my new hard drive. I understand that 2.1
User and Developer is basically share ware according to Bell Atlantic and
Next. Would anyone with a 2.1 system be willing to copy 2.1 onto my hard
drive?
Well if I can't go that route maybe I can put a 3.2 system together. Does
anyone have a used copy of 3.2 User and Developer sitting around that they
would like to get rid of ( meaning cheap $$)? I understand that I will need
a scsi floppy and scsi cd-rom. Does anyone know of which mechanisms can be
used? Like TEAC's fd-235 floppy? or does anyone have any of these to sell?
Any input would be helpful and greatly appreciated..
Michael James
michael@gspring.com
(415)327-1200
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [HELP]: Recommended Postscript printer for NSI
Date: 6 Sep 1994 19:41:45 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <34iglp$33j@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <1994Sep6.134631.1147@KYnug.org>
Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> writes
> I am looking to purchase a ps printer for some of our intel boxes here
in
> the office. Feel free to send me your comments and/or suggestions
> regarding this.
>
QMS Network-Printers. Or QMS ColorLaser-Printers with 600dpi !! The best
for all NS-plattforms.
We make the network-software for it: QMSprint, QMSconfig and QMSadmin.
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig +
+ iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH +
+ Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany +
+ Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 +
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [HELP]: Recommended Postscript printer for NSI
Date: 7 Sep 1994 03:12:14 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <34jb2e$haq@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1994Sep6.134631.1147@KYnug.org>
In article <1994Sep6.134631.1147@KYnug.org>,
Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org> wrote:
>I am looking to purchase a ps printer for some of our intel boxes here in
>the office. Feel free to send me your comments and/or suggestions
>regarding this.
>
>Thanks
>--
>Neil Greene
>benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
>2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
>Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
for 300x300 dpi I use a HP4ML.. Works great.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
Subject: Re: 1GB hard drives for black hardware
Message-ID: <gcrowCvqoAn.KpJ@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <34ig41$gh8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 02:59:11 GMT
John Devlin (jdevlin@umich.edu) wrote:
: I am looking to add an external 1GB hard drive to a NeXTStation. I
: am willing to pay a bit of a premium for
: (1) NEXT support from the distributor
: (2) Manufacturing quality and reliability; and
: (3) a drive that I would be pleased to use in some future
: workstation -- one that is Fast SCSII II, for example.
: QUESTION(S): Does anyone have any recommendations regarding drive
: manufacturers and suppliers? Has anyone purchased and used a
: Micropolis drive, in particular the 4100? Has anyone dealt with
: Peripheral Solutions? Other suggestions? Things to keep in mind?
: As always, thanks for your time and advice.
: --
: John Devlin
: Department of Philosophy
: The University of Michigan
: Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
: (313) 764-6285
I have used a Quantum 1080s with excellent results in a NeXTstation
color. No one that I know of will warranty drives specifically for black
hardware, but you should be able to deal with a retailer who will let you
return your purchases in the original package if they don't work. I have
also used Fuji, Seagate, Hewlett Packard, and Maxtor drives, although,
not 1GB versions with complete success. I think the NeXT is compatible
with most SCSI drives.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan)
Subject: Intel machine chassis...
Message-ID: <1994Sep7.003230.4593@ximage.com>
Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout)
Organization: XImage Corp.
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 00:32:30 GMT
Well...
I just acquired all the pieces for an Intel-based nextstep machine, and
am currently looking for a permanent chassis for the same...While I
have a chassis, I am using at present, I would like to get a case which
has some visual appeal, as opposed to most of the clunkers...
Any one have good ideas...
Thanks
jag@ximage.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pat%cesar@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde)
Subject: Dead NeXT Laser Printer
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.221155.491@cesar.uucp>
Sender: pat@cesar.uucp
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 22:11:55 GMT
Bonjour Netland,
My NeXT printer died last week.
Does some kind of shop manual exist for this printer?
Please reply via e-mail
Patrique Lalonde
pat%cesar@cam.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: aaron@tbyte.com (Aaron Greene)
Subject: Stealth 64 - PCI?
Message-ID: <1994Sep6.232209.27779@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 23:22:09 GMT
We need to do 32 bit color on something larger than 80X600, but the
drivers only list the Vesa Local Bus version of the 4MB drivers.
Does anyone know if the 4MB PCI card does the same?
Thanks,
Aaron Greene
Net Admin - Trilobyte
aaron@tbyte.com
From: laire@taifun.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Stealth 64 - PCI?
Date: 7 Sep 1994 08:44:10 +0200
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <34jnfq$lf7@taifun.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <1994Sep6.232209.27779@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
aaron@tbyte.com (Aaron Greene) writes:
>We need to do 32 bit color on something larger than 80X600, but the
>drivers only list the Vesa Local Bus version of the 4MB drivers.
>Does anyone know if the 4MB PCI card does the same?
Works nice here....the only bad thing with that card is the 135MHZ DAC.
1152*832 32Bit in 75HZ shows the limit of the DAC..but 60HZ is possible.
It would be nice if the driver knows other HZ steps between 60 and 75.
--
Ralph Schmidt laire@uni-paderborn.de
University of Paderborn (Germany)
From: nevis@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Bryon Nevis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Difficulty getting high resolution modes working with ATI GUP
Date: 7 Sep 1994 06:12:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
Message-ID: <34jljj$gki@engr.orst.edu>
I have an Amax Impression 5 5528G (1280x1024 NI, 15") monitor,
and an ATI GUP, and I am having trouble getting it to work
with the high resolution modes of my monitor.
Before installing NextStep 3.2, I was running Linux, and I was
able to get 1120x832 and 1280x1024 modes running well. With
NeXTStep, however, I seem to be running into difficulty.
The only high resolution color mode that seems to work well
is 1024x768x60Hz, which is far, far, below the capabilities of
my monitor or my GUP. I was able to port the following mode
from my Xconfig (ATIModes.c shown here):
/* 1120 x 832, 68Hz, noninterlaced. */
static const ATI_CRTCSetup ATI_crt_1120_75 = {
/* Custom mode, 100MHz clock, 75Hz refresh */
1120, 832, 191, 0x8B, 145, 20, 1746, 0x67F, 0x681, 2, 0x23,
0x0600, 0,
/* 1120, 832, 0xAB, 0x8B, 0x91, 0x0C, 0x6C8, 0x67F, 0x681, 0x06, 0x23,
0x062C, 0,*/
};
This is an 1120x832 75Hz refresh (I customized the driver so that
it knew it was 75Hz, but that didn't help). Anyway, this mode works
excellent at 8 bits per pixel, but in 15 BBP mode, I get this strange
effect on my screen. Think of the horizontal bar IBM logo, where every
third bar is shifted over to the right 2 cm. So, for instance, the
tip of the arrow cursor is shifted, the wider part is in the correct
palce, the beginning of the tail is shifted, the end of the tail is
in the correct spot. And the specific effect depends on where
you are on the screen, but things seem to be distorted semi-regularly.
For the login window, the effect is that some of the gray on the left
side of the box overflows into the white textfield, in a small band
about, say 8-10 pixels tall. Text typed into the window is
distorted similarly.
The 1280x1024 x 8 bpp x 60Hz mode needed to be changed because my
monitor needs positive sync polarity, and the supplied driver specifies
negative sync polarity. But once I changed it, the screen was centered
like under XFree-86, but unlike in XFree-86, I observed the "sparkle"
effect that Commodore 64's had, where writing to the video memory
while it was being read caused brief horizontal streaks across the
screen. Except in my case, the streaks/blips are worse as information
content got higher (the more windows on the screen, or the more
text in the window, the worse the effect). Additionally, there was
a fury of distortion whenever there was disk access. This never
happened with XFree-86.
Any ideas what is going on here? Why would something work at
8BPP, but fail to operate correctly at 15BPP. Why would disk activity
cause distortion on the screen at the highest video mode (110 MHz)?
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From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: problems with NS3.2 FIP&m68k floppies - help/advice wanted!!
Date: 7 Sep 1994 08:18:34 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <34jt0q$rea@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
I posted a message about a problem I'm having with using floppy disks between a
NeXT colourstation running NS3.2 and an Intel box running NS3.2FIP. Disks
gradually become corrupted and ultimately unreadable. This problem applies to
both NS and DOS formatted disks formatted on either machine, even to DOS disks
formatted under DOS. I wonder if this is anything to do with the problem fixed
by the DOSFileSysPatch for hard disks with DOS partitions? I have already
'bugged next' (to no avail), and at least two people seem to having similar
problems. Anyone else out there in the same boat? More importantly, has anyone
got any suggestions how this problem might be solved?
btw, my Intel configuration is:
Pentium P60 (Elonex box) / 32Mb Ram / 1Gb Quantum HDD / Adaptec 1542 SCSI /
Windows Sound Card / Number 9 GXE graphics card
if that helps.
--
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From: avalaris@rp.CSIRO.AU (Andrew Valaris)
Subject: NextDimension Info
Message-ID: <1994Sep7.075246.21024@rp.CSIRO.AU>
Sender: usenet@rp.CSIRO.AU (Network news)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics/Australia Telescope National Facility
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 07:52:46 GMT
Hi Folks,
I have a few questions regarding the NextDimension borards:
1) Will they run in an '030 Cube, and what is the the performance
hit?
2) What are the specs in terms of vectors/sec, triangles/sec etc.
3) How much can i expect to pay for one used?, availability?
4) Assuming the above is acceptable, would an '030/ND be adequate
for 3D work, or should I go for an '040 box?
Thanks
Andrew
From: H.R.YAZDI@BHAM.AC.UK (H.R.YAZDI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP, PLEASE ( URGENT)
Date: 7 Sep 1994 11:00:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, UK
Message-ID: <34k6gu$qva@sun4.bham.ac.uk>
To Whom it may concern:
Hi dear friends
I'm doing PhD research in university of Birmingham, UK and need your help.
I want some information about a chip produced by Harris Semiconductors, called HSP45256,
which is a binary correlator. I've already read Harris data book, many times, but still there are
many questions that I can't find their answers in the data book.
So please, if you know any article, application, or papers regarding the above mentioned IC, let
me know. Also, if you know any other company who has produced similar ICs, please let me
know. (Harris HSP45256 is used in DSP systems).
I appreciate your attention and looking forward to hear from you soon.
Would you please send your reply via my email?
My email is : H.R.YAZDI@BHAM.AC.UK
Cheers
H.R.Yazdi
From: basso@patpserv.epfl.ch (Andrea Basso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q] QUANTUM 540LPS and 105LPS on black Hw
Date: 7 Sep 1994 12:55:45 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Sender: basso@patpserv (Andrea Basso)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34kd8h$piv@info.epfl.ch>
Hello,
I plan to install an QUANTUM LPS540 in a NextStation and maybe
add the QUANTUM LPS 105 that was inside as swap disk.
I have the following questions:
1) Anyone had experience with the 540LPS drive? What about the performances?
1) Which is the best configuration for the disk? (do i have to reformat it
to 1024 Bytes/sector? change the geometry?, partition it?)
2) I would like to add the QUANTUM 105 as swap disk. 105 MB is a bit of waste
of space ( i have 20MB ram) can i partition the disk for having 40MB swap and the
rest for storage of data?
Any help will be very appreciated.
I will summarize the answers.
-Andrea
Please answer to
basso@ltssun4.epfl.ch
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: NextBook (notebook for NEXTSTEP)
Date: 7 Sep 1994 15:18:38 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <34klke$7vf@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Hi,
A few months ago, I saw a few articles about a
notebook computer that was geared toward running NEXTSTEP.
It was called the NextBook and sold by NSProducts, I think.
It sounded great. Has anyone out there bought one? Could
you please summarize your experience with the product and
the dealer? Thank you very much.
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2048 byte sector disks
Date: 7 Sep 1994 15:24:33 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <34klvi$pq4@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I understand that NeXTanswers indicates that 1024 byte sectors work,
although one cannot boot from a 1024byte sector disk on Intel machines. I
will try this on a Seagate ST43400N later, using the sdformat utility on
the net.
Has anyone run NS/FIP with 2048 byte sectors? Does it improve
speed/access? How does one tweak disk -i for such performance? (I guess it
depends on whether the FFS can grab sectors in 2048 byte chunks.)
Any advice would be appreciated.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jvega@cs.uno.edu (vega)
Subject: PAS-16, NS/I & OPTi
Message-ID: <1994Sep7.161229.4545@cs.uno.edu>
Organization: Smart Object Technologies, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 16:12:29 GMT
We have several NeXTStep Intel machines with the OPTi chipset and AMI BIOS.
We are (were) attempting to install the Pro Audio Spectrum 16. When it
didn't work, we switched to MS-DOS. (another partition). In DOS, the
PAS-16 worked fine, under the same hardware configuration. Does anyone
have any suggestions as to why this isn't working?
I'll appreceiate any response or redirection.
Thanks!
--
-- Jeff Vega
Smart Object Technologies, Inc.
(NeXTMail YES!) e-mail: jeff@smobject.com
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway P5-90 hardware drivers
Date: 7 Sep 1994 13:58:43 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <34kv0j$aq3@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <sstatonCvq6xB.3o1@netcom.com>
Steven R. Staton (sstaton@netcom.com) wrote:
: I have a Gateway P5-90 with Gateway's homebrew hardware on board. Does any
: one know of drivers for the ATI AX0 (PCI) video board that comes with it?
: The sound card, called "Jazz16", doesn't respond to the default sound drivers
: in NS3.2. Is there a SoundBlaster(tm) compatible driver out there?
: --
The ATI card included with the P5-90 is based on the Mach64. A driver is
available from Talus (info@talus.com) for the Mach64, but I'm not sure if it
will work with the AX0. A PD SoundBlaster driver is available on
cs.orst.edu.
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NextDimension Info
Date: 7 Sep 1994 14:05:22 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <34kvd2$atq@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Sep7.075246.21024@rp.CSIRO.AU>
Andrew Valaris (avalaris@rp.CSIRO.AU) wrote:
: Hi Folks,
: I have a few questions regarding the NextDimension borards:
: 1) Will they run in an '030 Cube, and what is the the performance
: hit?
: 2) What are the specs in terms of vectors/sec, triangles/sec etc.
: 3) How much can i expect to pay for one used?, availability?
: 4) Assuming the above is acceptable, would an '030/ND be adequate
: for 3D work, or should I go for an '040 box?
If you need to do 3D work, get an '040 or better yet, an Intel Pentium box. The
NeXTdimension board will cost you more than buying a faster system, and
will be useless with an '030.
From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hooking UPS's up to a serial port
Date: 7 Sep 1994 18:23:34 GMT
Organization: Telecom Paris, FRANCE
Sender: philipp@terry.res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34l0f6$mgd@enst.enst.fr>
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Hi.
I recently bought myself a Back UPS 400 box from the local reseller
when the utility company cut power for the 3rd time in in the
same afternoon.
I opened the box, plugged it in, and set about reading the
documentation (yeah,
I probably should have reversed steps #2 and #3).
Anyway, the have a non-standard way of providing certain signals on
their little DB-9 connector, and I want to be able to read these
off of my
COM1 port (or if you prefer, /dev/ttya). So, I was wondering if
anyone has
any experience in making a cable for these little suckers, or
even if there
was any sort of industry-wide consent on which signal (ie.
Battery Low) arrives
on which pin (ie. "DSR" or "CD" or "RI", etc) on a DB-25
connector.
I especially get the idea that it isn't as simply as crossing
certain wires, since some signals aren't properly driven... I'm
a programmer
not an electronic engineer, and I'm hesitant to grill anything
(yeah, I know
that RS-232Cs are pretty well buffered, but still).
Final note: they (American Power Conversion) seem to be very
protective
about this information. They don't believe in copy-protecting
their software,
so they simply don't document the cables that are provided with
their software.
The idea being: You can duplicate their software, but without
their cable it's
no use to you. I'm in the opposite position: I don't give a
damn about their
precious software (I'll roll-my-own), but I do want a cable and
the schematic.
Deadlock. They don't trust me. Sigh. They should wake up and smell
the coffee -- "security through obscurity" is a crock. It's
obviously not
the cable that needs to be protected, but the software.
(Reverse-engineering
a cable is in any case easier than doing the same for their
software, but I
can't be bothered.)
Please reply directly. Thanks for any info.
-Philip
From: v_white@ece.wisc.edu (Victor White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Formatting a new HD on black hardware???
Date: 7 Sep 1994 19:08:04 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
Message-ID: <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Hi,
Anyone have a cookbook recipe on how to format a new hard drive?
I picked up an unformatted micropolis 4110 1 Gig HD, (usual trade-off,
good price, little support) and have set the terminators so that I can
boot off of my other hard drive with no offending errors.
But when I boot the cube, I get no recognition of the new hard drive.
It's as if it's not there.
I set it to SCSI ID 4, put a /dev/ entry in my fstab, but when I
boot it spins up, LEDs flicker saying it is working, but it
doesn't come to life.
I called the tech support people where I bought it from, and they said I
need to do a low level format first. But how?
Any ideas, hints, or spiritual words of advice?
Thanks,
Victor White
v_white@janus.ece.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem and 030 question
Date: 8 Sep 1994 04:13:09 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <34m30l$2uof@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
References: <CvH7Eq.HpA@ucdavis.edu> <cjones-0109941753320001@fiver.cse.ucla.edu>
In article <cjones-0109941753320001@fiver.cse.ucla.edu>,
Chad Jones <cjones@gse.ucla.edu> wrote:
> Also the 030 will not
>be able to do more than
>9600 baud no matter what you do.
>
>robert
Not really true. Some systems (mine in particular) does 19200 all the
time without any problems ('030 running NS 3.0). On occasion I run it
to 38400 and haven't noticed any problems (very few retries, dropped
chars, etc). My real problem is that the dialup site I used for
2 years only supported 2400 8^( . Fortunately I have an alternative now.
john
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From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SerialMouse in NSFIP
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 01:07:24 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <AiPdkAO00iUzQDz24w@andrew.cmu.edu>
I'm installing NS/i 3.2 for the first time with a serial mouse (as
opposed to the ATI bus mouse) and am having difficulties with NS
recognizing it. It's a Microsoft Mouse 2.0 if that makes any difference.
Any help would be appreciated as NS without a mouse is utter pain. I
tried rewriting the /usr/Devices/SerialMouse/DefaultTable but it still
doesn't recognize it. Please help. Thanks.
-Leo
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 1GB hard drives for black hardware
Message-ID: <1994Sep8.073219.19352@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 07:32:19 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <gcrowCvqoAn.KpJ@netcom.com>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <gcrowCvqoAn.KpJ@netcom.com> writes:
> John Devlin (jdevlin@umich.edu) wrote:
> : I am looking to add an external 1GB hard drive to a NeXTStation. I
> : am willing to pay a bit of a premium for
>
> : (1) NEXT support from the distributor
> : (2) Manufacturing quality and reliability; and
> : (3) a drive that I would be pleased to use in some future
> : workstation -- one that is Fast SCSII II, for example.
>
> : QUESTION(S): Does anyone have any recommendations regarding drive
> : manufacturers and suppliers? Has anyone purchased and used a
> : Micropolis drive, in particular the 4100? Has anyone dealt with
> : Peripheral Solutions? Other suggestions? Things to keep in mind?
>
> : As always, thanks for your time and advice.
>
> : --
> : John Devlin
> : Department of Philosophy
> : The University of Michigan
> : Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
> : (313) 764-6285
>
> I have used a Quantum 1080s with excellent results in a NeXTstation
> color. No one that I know of will warranty drives specifically for black
> hardware, but you should be able to deal with a retailer who will let you
> return your purchases in the original package if they don't work. I have
> also used Fuji, Seagate, Hewlett Packard, and Maxtor drives, although,
> not 1GB versions with complete success. I think the NeXT is compatible
> with most SCSI drives.
Carefull, the black hardware may have problems with fast SCSI devices as to
timings. I was unable to use a conner fast SCSI-II drive (1060s) on a
NeXTstation - There were lots of formatting errors and always at different
locations. The HP 1G drive (normal SCSI) didn't have this effect. In
addition, this drive (2247s) can be jumpered to use only the SCSI-I
protocoll as supported by NeXT.
-Robert
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Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15
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Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
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Switzerland
From: becker@ds.freinet.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NextBook (notebook for NEXTSTEP)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 11:16:30 GMT
Organization: FreiNet (XLINK-PoP Freiburg)
Message-ID: <940908131630.273AAB3H.becker@feldberg>
References: <34klke$7vf@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
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> A few months ago, I saw a few articles about a
>notebook computer that was geared toward running NEXTSTEP.
>It was called the NextBook and sold by NSProducts, I think.
>It sounded great. Has anyone out there bought one? Could
>you please summarize your experience with the product and
>the dealer? Thank you very much.
>
>Gregg Dinse
>919-541-4931
>dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
Dont buy anything. We have bought one, but never have seen it or got back
our money!!
Manfred Becker
2i Distribution & Solution GmbH
Haierweg 20 e
79114 Freiburg
Germany
Tel.: (++49-761)472850
FAX: (++49-761)474312
e-mail: becker@ds.freinet.de
From: gary@esl.com (Gary Merrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: will this drive work?
Date: 8 Sep 1994 11:56:41 GMT
Organization: ESL Inc., a TRW Company
Message-ID: <34mu5p$7m5@gatekeeper.esl.com>
Please help!
I've got a Fujitsu M2694ESA (1 Gbyte) to use as a replacement drive
on my '040 cube. But for some reason, after installing a system on it
using build disk, and setting the SCSI id to 0, the system refuses to
boot. The error message is this:
sc: unexpected msg
SCSI unexpected msg
(and repeats)
Anybody have an idea what this is, and how I can fix it?
Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
thanks,
Gary
From: chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI-2 Controller DPT 2024/90 with Cache up to 64MB
Date: 08 Sep 94 08:44:07
Organization: Cornell University
Sender: caw5@cornell.edu (Verified)
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I do not have any information about the new DPT PCI SCSI-II caching cards you mentioned but, being the owner of a DPT EISA product, I can shed a little light on DPTs naming scheme at least.
if the model # ends with /90 it does not have onboad floppy control
if the model # ends with /95 the card includes a floppy controller
The last digit of the model # indicates bus -
2x21 products are ISA bus
2x22 products are EISA bus
2x24 products appear to be PCI bus
The second digit of the model # indicates relative performance level. In the EISA card series for example:
2022 - no onboard processor
2122 - 68020 processor onboard
2322 - 68040 processor onboard
- Chris
From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (David Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Mouse problems
Date: 8 Sep 1994 13:01:19 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <34n1uv$rns@mustang.alleg.edu>
We have a number of older NeXT machines (some as old as five yeras) that
are used constantly by students. The machines are fine but the mice are
wearing out! The biggest problem is with wires breaking just where the
wire connects with the mouse.
We can buy new mice but the replacement cost just went to $110 each! Does
anyone know of a better solution to the problem?
Thanks.
David Anderson
danders@alleg.edu
Allegheny College
Meadville, PA 16335
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: EMail/Phone# FOR ALEMBIC SYSTEMS
Date: 8 Sep 1994 14:22:20 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <34n6ms$7hr@news.worldlink.com>
Subject says it all. I am trying to contact Alembic in order to make internet connections
via Mail.app
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: EMail/Phone# FOR ALEMBIC SYSTEMS
Date: 8 Sep 1994 10:13:37 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <34n9n1$8vr@crchh921.bnr.ca>
References: <34n6ms$7hr@news.worldlink.com>
In article <34n6ms$7hr@news.worldlink.com>,
James Gaines <p00378@psilink.com> wrote:
>Subject says it all. I am trying to contact Alembic in order to make internet connections
>via Mail.app
Alembic Systems International Ltd.
14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228
Englewood, Colorado 80112
(800) 452-7608
(303) 799-6223
(303) 799-1435 fax
info@alembic.com
=============================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR.
====================================================================
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP Vectra XM2 PC Certification?
Date: 8 Sep 1994 15:53:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
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References: <34la6q$m5o@news.iastate.edu> <bchin.778981366@news.andi.org>
DISCLAIMER - I'm speaking only for myself, not Hewlett-Packard, and may not
know what the heck I'm talking about. Caveat Emptor!
In article <bchin.778981366@news.andi.org>, bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
|> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) writes:
|>
|> >The HP Vectra XM is certified for NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel Processors, but
|> >the machine is being discontinued and replaced by the XM2, which is not
|> >certified.
|>
|> >The S3-928 was built into the XM, therefore, the standard S3 driver
|> >supplied with NeXTSTEP (which supports the 805 and 928 chip) worked just
|> >fine, but the S3-864 is built into the XM2 and (to the best of my
|> >knowledge), no existing driver supports the S3-864.
|>
|> The S3 864 is a DRAM version of the S3 964 which does have drivers
|> available. A third party like Miro or Elsa may have written an
|> 864 driver by now.
The BIOS and drivers for the 928-based video in my XM were both written by
ELSA. This in turn implies that the on-board video system may be an ELSA
design, or derived from one (I don't really _know_, though). If this is
also the case for the XM2, you might want to try the NextStep driver for
ELSA's 864-based PCI board.
|> >The XM was an ISA bus machine, while the XM2 is a PCI/ISA bus machine.
The XM actually has a proprietary local bus for the on-board video.
|> >The lack of PCI support in NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not make the XM2 more
|> >attractive at the moment.
|>
|> NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support PCI but only to a point... if you just
|> have a PCI video adapter, then it should work just fine. It gets
|> trickier with ethernet and SCSI devices.
|>
|> >The XM had 16-bit Ethernet built into it, requiring the HPLanAdapter
|> >driver, but the XM2 has a 32-bit Ethernet adapter. I am not yet aware of
|> >any drivers which support the Ethernet built into the XM2.
|>
|> Maybe it's the same chip as the Canon object.station.41's 32bit AMD.
The XM's 16-bit ENet chip is actually the AMD Am2100 (Lance), or a variant
thereof. It might therefore be worthwhile to try the driver for the new 32-
bit AMD chip, as Bill suggests.
|> >The XM had IDE drives, while the XM2 has Enhanced IDE drives. Will small
|> >(under 1GB) Enhanced IDE drives work with NeXTSTEP 3.2?
|>
|> Putting non-enhanced IDE drives on an enhanced IDE controller has
|> worked for other makes.
Just make sure you don't try to use an EIDE drive >500 MB with NextStep. The
address translations necessary to support large EIDE drives take place at
the BIOS level, so NextStep bypasses them. Hopefully, Next will implement
these translations in a future revision of the IDE driver...
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H-P San Diego
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI-2 Controller DPT 2024/90 with Cache up to 64MB
Date: 8 Sep 94 16:13:00 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.779040780@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <Cvr8n0.6H@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> <chris.94Sep88447@MilleniumFalcon>
chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu writes:
> 2022 - no onboard processor
Wrong! 2022 - 68000 20 MHz onboard processor!
> 2122 - 68020 processor onboard
> 2322 - 68040 processor onboard
That's right.
Markus.
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// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: tkonishi@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (Tetsuro KONISHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Syquest 270mb 3.5" removable HD
Date: 8 Sep 94 20:48:40
Organization: R-lab., Dept. of Phys., Nagoya University, Japan
Message-ID: <TKONISHI.94Sep8204840@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
References: <TKONISHI.94Aug31233851@allegro.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
<CvpFr0.A4@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
<CvL355.ts@blackmaus.com>
In-reply-to: Jacques Garbi's message of Tue, 6 Sep 1994 10:57:00 GMT
I thank Dino Bagdadi and Jacques Garbi for their replies to
my question on cartridge compatibility;
> > By the way, does anybody know if the SyQuest 270MB removable HD drives
> > can read and write the 105MB SyQuest cartridges?
The answer is yes.
Recently we see several ads of SyQuest 270MB drives in Japan
(price ~ 70k ~ 80k yen; 1US$ ~ 100yen), but none of the ads say
about the 105MB cartridges. So their information is helpful to me.
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From: steve@deltos.com (Steven R. Staton)
Subject: Western Digital Caviar Drives
Message-ID: <CvtCzL.Bzq@deltos.uucp>
Sender: steve@deltos.uucp (Steven R. Staton)
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Are there any specific recommendations when using Caviar drives with
NeXTSTEP? I am having trouble loading NeXTSTEP onto a Caviar 1Gb drive
from the Adaptec AVA-1505(A) card and a NEC 3XPi CD-ROM drive. There
appears to be only one jumper block on the Caviar for IDE (single - master
- slave) mode selection. Has anyone successfully ran BuildDisk (NS3.2)
between a master and a slave IDE hard drive?
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From: jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff Martin)
Subject: Re: Gateway P5-90 hardware drivers
Message-ID: <1994Sep8.161903.3827@bozell.com>
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
References: <34kv0j$aq3@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 16:19:03 GMT
>Steven R. Staton (sstaton@netcom.com) wrote:
>I have a Gateway P5-90 with Gateway's hardware on board. Does any
>one know of drivers for the ATI AX0 (PCI) video board that comes with it?
>The sound card, "Jazz16", doesn't respond to the default sound driver
>in NS3.2. Is there a SoundBlaster(tm) compatible driver out there?
We ordered 4 Gateway P5-90's without a video or sound card and used the
#9GXE64Pro and ProAudio Spectrum instead. Our systems are working very
well so far (2 weeks). Our only problem was that we had to reduce the
cyliner count on the 540meg IDE drive(NextAnswer #1650) with Gateway's
on-board boot utility. It's a very cheap NEXTSTEP system considering what
we loaded it with, but many people were quick to remind me that it is not
in the hardware compatibility guide(NextAnswer #1157). Ordering info and
price below.
... jeff
Developer Gateway 90mhz Pentium:
Config: 90mhz Pentium, 32meg Ram, 540meg IDE HD,
20" Sony Monitor, 4meg PCI video,
16bit sound, Twisted pair PCI Ethernet
PRICE
-------
Gateway (800) 846 - 2042
P5-90 BestBuy $ 2,999
Extended Ram(from 8 to 32meg) $ 900
20" Monitor Upgrade $ 1,315
Remove Gateway 2mb PCI video $ -170
Remove IDE CDRom Drive $ -100
PC Connection (800) 800 - 5555
#9GXE64 Pro 4mb PCI video $ 540
PAS-16 Sound card $ 140
Cogent (800) 426-4368
Cogent EM960TPPCI Ethernet $ 130
---------
Total $ 5,754
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Stealth 64 - PCI?
Date: 8 Sep 1994 18:24:36 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
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References: <1994Sep6.232209.27779@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
In article <1994Sep6.232209.27779@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
aaron@tbyte.com (Aaron Greene) writes:
>
> We need to do 32 bit color on something larger than 80X600, but the
> drivers only list the Vesa Local Bus version of the 4MB drivers.
>
> Does anyone know if the 4MB PCI card does the same?
Yes, the current Stealth-64 driver available from NeXTanswers supports
32-bit color at 1152x864 on the PCI card with 4MB VRAM.
--
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DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
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From: dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: [HELP]: Recommended Postscript printer for NSI
Message-ID: <Cvsw6y.3DI@clive>
Sender: paul@clive (Paul Marcos)
Organization: dCode
References: <1994Sep6.134631.1147@KYnug.org>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 07:44:57 GMT
In article <1994Sep6.134631.1147@KYnug.org> Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
writes:
> I am looking to purchase a ps printer for some of our intel boxes here
in
> the office. Feel free to send me your comments and/or suggestions
> regarding this.
>
I highly recommend the Apple LaserWriter Select 360 for 600x600 dpi
output. I use it from a NeXT, Windows, and a Mac all at the same time.
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From: daemon9@netcom.com
Subject: NeXT 3.3 release?
Message-ID: <daemon9Cvto4n.Ix2@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 17:48:22 GMT
Actually my question is twofold.
1> I have a Micron P90 w/64 megs RAM, etc. and a Buslogic 946 PCI
controller. I hear that there will be no support for this contoller
until NSFIP 3.3. I also hear that the Buslogic controllers are
register compatible with Adaptec, and an Adaptec driver may work.
Is there a way>??????!?!?
2> When will NSFIP 3.3 be released?
Thanks!
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 16MB SIMMS for cube
Date: 8 Sep 1994 18:55:32 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34nmn4$6m9@tunix.cubiculum.com>
The following is posted for a friend of mine, reply to him (and/or the list),
but not to me. His e-mail address is agm@doc.ic.ac.uk
==============================================================================
Does anyone know what the maximum RAM is one can put into a '040 cube? I
currently have 40MB, and need *much* more. I know I can get up to 64MB using
4MB SIMMS.
Q: Can I use 16MB SIMMS (or larger ones) for the cube?
If you happen to have purchased some, could you tell me a good source to buy
these as well? And if you have the exact specification of those that fit in
the cube, that would be great.
I've just moved and don't have access to USENET, only to long-distance e-mail
downloading. I would highly appreciate if you sent me a personal email to
agm@doc.ic.ac.uk.
thank you,
axel merk
p.s.: if there's demand, I can summarize any findings with another posting.
p.p.s.: US sources are preferred (cheaper).
p.p.p.s.: NeXTmail ok
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Mouse problems
Date: 8 Sep 1994 19:31:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <34n1uv$rns@mustang.alleg.edu>
In article <34n1uv$rns@mustang.alleg.edu> danders@carn3.alleg.edu (David
Anderson) writes:
> We have a number of older NeXT machines
> We can buy new mice but the replacement cost just went to $110 each!
> Does anyone know of a better solution to the problem?
This has been posted before. I'll repeat the (edited) post.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
******************************************************
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch).
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:10:39 GMT
Actually, you can use a Logitech BUS mouse off of a PC
directly... no point in ripping spare switches out. I have a
Logitech Bus Mouseman on my non-ADB black slab and it works
wonderfully, and feels much better than the NeXT mouse anyway.
You'll have to slice off the 9-pin mini-DIN plug that comes with it and
stick an 8-pin one on. I took an Apple Imagewriter cable and cut it in
half. The pinouts have been posted, and I'm not at my console right now,
so mail me if you want the bus mouse pinouts and I'll NeXTmail the .ps
and .rtf versions to ya.
I've been told Amiga and Atari ST rodents and trackballs will work too,
but I know PC _serial_ mice won't.
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hayes ISDN Extender, What's its status
Date: 8 Sep 1994 16:09:48 -0400
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <34nr2c$f7a@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
I have NS 3.2. If I got an ISDN extender for my NeXTstation,
would I be able to do anything with it. Whats the status
of the phone kit?
Chris
From: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hardware FAQ
Date: 8 Sep 1994 15:36:30 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <34nb1u$ngd@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am trying to find the NeXT Hardware FAQ, where is it at? I need to
know what the different jumper settings are on the Seagate ST1480N
400meg Harddrive that came in my NeXTstation color. I bought an external
enclosure and wanted to put it in it. I need the SCSI-ID settings, and
positive confirmation on termination removal. Thanks for the info.
Jonathan Gardner
jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
From: harrison@clark.net (Harrison Consulting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Boot failure
Date: 8 Sep 1994 21:26:04 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <34nvhc$eat@clarknet.clark.net>
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi all,
When booting an ancient cube (030 motherboard) I get the message:
sc: software error
repeatedly before and during the time when it tries to find the SCSI
devices. This happens until I decide to try to reboot or shut the
machine off.
Does anyone know what the problem is and how to correct it?
Thanks in advance.
Scott Harrison.
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From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Mono Monitor Adjust/Repair
Message-ID: <Cvu7uu.Kvs@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru)
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 00:54:29 GMT
Managed to figure out how to adjust the white level and cut off
controls inside the mono monitor to get quite a bit of improvemnt
from a couple of diming monitors. However, I have some shadowing
which precluded the adjustments and which persisted afterwards.
Does anyone know what is going on with this and if there are any
adjustments/mods/voo doo that one can apply to improve/reduce the
shadowing.
Would appreciate any help on this etc...
David
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From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
Subject: Re: 1GB hard drives for black hardware
Message-ID: <gcrowCvu8oI.7Gr@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <gcrowCvqoAn.KpJ@netcom.com> <1994Sep8.073219.19352@urz.unibas.ch>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 01:12:17 GMT
I just realized that the last posting I made on this topic is
misleading. The NeXT capability to handle most scsi devices was added to
the later NeXT products. Only the later ROMs and versions of NeXTstep
support generic scsi devices.
I have had success with NeXTstep 3.0 and higher and ROM revision levels
of 3.0 and higher. Both NeXTstation and NeXTstation turbos work with the
drives I have tried. Earlier versions of ROM make work also, but I
haven't tried them. I have had no experience adding new disk drives to
'030 systems.
The best advice is still to only try disk drives which can be returned
for a full refund.
Sorry for any confusion,
George
Robert Frank (frank@ifi.unibas.ch) wrote:
: In article <gcrowCvqoAn.KpJ@netcom.com> writes:
: > John Devlin (jdevlin@umich.edu) wrote:
: > : I am looking to add an external 1GB hard drive to a NeXTStation. I
: > : am willing to pay a bit of a premium for
: >
: > : (1) NEXT support from the distributor
: > : (2) Manufacturing quality and reliability; and
: > : (3) a drive that I would be pleased to use in some future
: > : workstation -- one that is Fast SCSII II, for example.
: >
: > : QUESTION(S): Does anyone have any recommendations regarding drive
: > : manufacturers and suppliers? Has anyone purchased and used a
: > : Micropolis drive, in particular the 4100? Has anyone dealt with
: > : Peripheral Solutions? Other suggestions? Things to keep in mind?
: >
: > : As always, thanks for your time and advice.
: >
: > : --
: > : John Devlin
: > : Department of Philosophy
: > : The University of Michigan
: > : Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
: > : (313) 764-6285
: >
: > I have used a Quantum 1080s with excellent results in a NeXTstation
: > color. No one that I know of will warranty drives specifically for black
: > hardware, but you should be able to deal with a retailer who will let you
: > return your purchases in the original package if they don't work. I have
: > also used Fuji, Seagate, Hewlett Packard, and Maxtor drives, although,
: > not 1GB versions with complete success. I think the NeXT is compatible
: > with most SCSI drives.
: Carefull, the black hardware may have problems with fast SCSI devices as to
: timings. I was unable to use a conner fast SCSI-II drive (1060s) on a
: NeXTstation - There were lots of formatting errors and always at different
: locations. The HP 1G drive (normal SCSI) didn't have this effect. In
: addition, this drive (2247s) can be jumpered to use only the SCSI-I
: protocoll as supported by NeXT.
: -Robert
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From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: 1GB hard drives for black hardware
Message-ID: <1994Sep8.182547.214@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <34ig41$gh8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:25:47 GMT
In article <34ig41$gh8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu
(John Devlin) writes:
> I am looking to add an external 1GB hard drive to a NeXTStation. I
> am willing to pay a bit of a premium for
>
> (1) NEXT support from the distributor
> (2) Manufacturing quality and reliability; and
> (3) a drive that I would be pleased to use in some future
> workstation -- one that is Fast SCSII II, for example.
>
> QUESTION(S): Does anyone have any recommendations regarding drive
> manufacturers and suppliers? Has anyone purchased and used a
> Micropolis drive, in particular the 4100? Has anyone dealt with
> Peripheral Solutions? Other suggestions? Things to keep in mind?
>
> As always, thanks for your time and advice.
>
> --
> John Devlin
> Department of Philosophy
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
> (313) 764-6285
I have a Micropolis 4110-09-Nov18F connected to my NXStation (old model), and
it works fine (just a bit slower than my internal 400MB). It comes preformated
with MacFS so I reformated it. Since now, no problem.
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From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Re: 1GB hard drives for black hardware
Message-ID: <Cvttzt.1r2@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Keywords: Micropolis
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland
References: <34ig41$gh8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 19:55:04 GMT
In article <34ig41$gh8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu
(John Devlin) writes:
> I am looking to add an external 1GB hard drive to a NeXTStation. I
> am willing to pay a bit of a premium for
>
> (1) NEXT support from the distributor
> (2) Manufacturing quality and reliability; and
> (3) a drive that I would be pleased to use in some future
> workstation -- one that is Fast SCSII II, for example.
>
> QUESTION(S): Does anyone have any recommendations regarding drive
> manufacturers and suppliers? Has anyone purchased and used a
> Micropolis drive, in particular the 4100? Has anyone dealt with
> Peripheral Solutions? Other suggestions? Things to keep in mind?
>
> As always, thanks for your time and advice.
>
> --
> John Devlin
> Department of Philosophy
> The University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
> (313) 764-6285
I'm also planning to add an external Micropolis hard drive to my
NeXTStation, and based on differents suggestions I guess the best(?)
solution for a 1 to 2GB hard drive is the 2217-AV model (thank you Jacques!),
wich is faster and better than the previous (2217) but with about the same
price. This hard drive is 1.75 GB, but under NS 1.4 GB [only].
I don't know the 4100 model. Any info about?
Thank you!
Stefano
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From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need help with color NeXT printer - Cyan nozzles jammed
Date: 9 Sep 1994 02:17:01 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <34ogit$bb6@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
As the subject says, I've got a NeXT color printer, using it
on black hardware. I recently moved, and since the move a
couple of the cyan nozzles seem to be jammed. (Test prints
of bars result in most of the bar being printed, but the
bottom bit doesn't.) I've flushed the nozzles a few times,
which helped - it used to be much worse - but it's still
displaying the symptoms outlined above.
My question is twofold. First, does anyone have any suggestions?
Second, can anyone tell me how to get access to the nozzles
to try to clean them out? Thanks for any help.
(Short of help fixing the problem, what suggestions do people
have for getting it repaired? Thanks!)
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
living in the Seattle area and loving it (NeXTmail/MIME spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
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From: faust@sleet.seas.ucla.edu (William Perry Faust)
Subject: Seek Recommendation for P5/90 System
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <CvuIsL.HzE@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 04:50:44 GMT
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA
Keywords: Pentium
I'd like to buy a P5/90 Pentium system to run NEXTSTEP and am seeking
the net's advice. The only real source of information I have (besides
this newsgroup) is the NeXT Hardware Configuration guide, but its list
of ``certified'' and ``listed'' systems is outdated. I'd be interested
in any other sources of information that might help me make a decision
(I remember mention of a homebrew list).
I'm sure there are many others like me out there who feel the same way
as I do. What I'd really like is a good NS Pentium system without
spending an exorbitant amount of money. For example, buy a system
from Dell or Gateway (with the appropriate non-NS compatible components
removed), insert a video card, scii controller, whatever, possibly buy
some drivers from Talus, and have a reasonable amount of confidence that
it will all work.
If you've recently bought a P5/90 system from Dell, Gateway, or the
like, I'd be interested in hearing about your specific configuration and
any advice you may have.
I'll summarize any responses received.
Bill Faust
faust@ee.ucla.edu
Los Angeles, California
From: jodc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dae-Chul JO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: problems with NS3.2 FIP&m68k floppies - help/advice wanted!!
Date: 9 Sep 1994 09:00:42 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34p87q$cq5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <34jt0q$rea@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
In article <34jt0q$rea@lorne.stir.ac.uk>, djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird) writes:
|> I posted a message about a problem I'm having with using floppy disks between a
|> NeXT colourstation running NS3.2 and an Intel box running NS3.2FIP. Disks
|> gradually become corrupted and ultimately unreadable. This problem applies to
|> both NS and DOS formatted disks formatted on either machine, even to DOS disks
|> formatted under DOS. I wonder if this is anything to do with the problem fixed
|> by the DOSFileSysPatch for hard disks with DOS partitions? I have already
|> 'bugged next' (to no avail), and at least two people seem to having similar
|> problems. Anyone else out there in the same boat? More importantly, has anyone
|> got any suggestions how this problem might be solved?
|> btw, my Intel configuration is:
|> Pentium P60 (Elonex box) / 32Mb Ram / 1Gb Quantum HDD / Adaptec 1542 SCSI /
|> Windows Sound Card / Number 9 GXE graphics card
|> if that helps.
|> --
|> Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926
|> Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133
|> Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
|> Stirling University
|> Scotland FK9 4LA
|>
|> * * * * * * * * * * * * * NeXTMail Welcome! * * * * * * * * * *
|>
In my case, this problem was caused by dust in floppy drive.
You may solve that by opening cover of NeXT station and clean
inside by a vaccum cleaner.
Dae-Chul Jo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: NI systems in the UK
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Sep9093855@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk>
Sender: news@festival.ed.ac.uk (remote news read deamon)
Organization: ICAPB, Edinburgh University
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:38:54 GMT
Hi,
I am temporarily in the UK (Edinburgh, to be precise) and seek
to purchase a reasonably priced 486 configuration for NEXTSTEP that a)
works (reliably), b) has NS pre-installed, c) has at least the same
graphics resolution as black hardware with a 17'' monitor (colour is
not important), d) can be delivered quickly (within a few weeks). I
would be very grateful for any recommendations.
Thanks,
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: richarda@coffee.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Achmatowicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SMC Elite 16 Ultra problem
Date: 9 Sep 1994 12:56:46 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.
Message-ID: <34pm2e$j59@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
I have been using an SMC Elite 16 Plus card with NS/I 3.2 with
no problem, until the card died. I was offered a newer version
of the card, the SMC Elite 16 Ultra, as a replacement as
apparently the Elite 16 Plus cards are on the way out.
This new card doesn't seem to operate correctly with the original
3.2 driver - it is recognized OK at boot time, but won't accept
any incoming traffic. It works fine under DOS.
Is anyone sucessfully using the SMC Elite 16 Ultra cards???
Thanks in advance
--
Richard Achmatowicz Internet: richarda@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Dept. of Computer Science Telephone: +44 71-975 5244
Queen Mary and Westfield College Fax: +44 81-980 6533
University of London
Mile End Road
London E1 4NS
United Kingdom
From: rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil (Bob Kurhajetz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Replacement monitors for color NeXTstations?
Date: 9 Sep 1994 12:44:00 GMT
Organization: "CARDEROCKDIV CDNSWC"
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34plagINNjuf@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Keywords: monitors
Hello
I'm in the process of sorting out the possible choices for replacing a few
of our original NeXT 17" color monitors - Interested in hearing from folks
who have tried 3rd party displays + what your experience good or bad or
whatever has been.
Thanks for looking this over
Bob Kurhajetz
Dept of the Navy
CD NSWC
Bethesda, MD 20084
301 227-4311
301 227-3360 FAX
NEXTMAIL is welcome
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP Vectra XM2 PC Certification?
Date: 9 Sep 1994 14:59:30 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34pt8i$lop@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <34la6q$m5o@news.iastate.edu>
In article <34la6q$m5o@news.iastate.edu> rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu
(Rod Ragner) writes:
> The HP Vectra XM is certified for NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel Processors, but
> the machine is being discontinued and replaced by the XM2, which is not
> certified.
Worry NOT! I'm sure NeXT will certify this machine by the time it too is
discontinued :-)
>
> The XM was an ISA bus machine, while the XM2 is a PCI/ISA bus machine.
> The lack of PCI support in NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not make the XM2 more
> attractive at the moment.
NeXT Political Wing Official Party Line: "Just wait for 3.3 for PCI
support, as well as certification"...(and wait, and wait, and wait...) Is
it just me, or does it seem that NeXT is constantly telling us to "just
wait" for their next shipping product somewhere down the road? This could
be their problem....and the reason everyone is still waiting to buy
NEXTSTEP :-((
> The XM had IDE drives, while the XM2 has Enhanced IDE drives. Will
small
> (under 1GB) Enhanced IDE drives work with NeXTSTEP 3.2?
>
I believe that around 500MB is the limit and this, I'm told, will not
change in 3.3 :-(( Another NEXTSTEP "feature". Just wait till 4.0.
> Originally, we had planned to purchase HP Vectra XM machines in the
future
> (currently we have one, while the other 33 machines are NeXTstations of
> one flavor or another), but we will have to either wait for drivers for
> the XM2 to become available or for another manufacturer to offer a
machine
> which will offer better support.
OR...another company, besides NeXT, to certify machines BEFORE they reach
obsolescence. Don't blame the hardware vendors. Trust me...they are FAR
more upset with NeXT regarding this issue than you are....and with good
reason.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright)
Subject: Station HD'
Message-ID: <CvvAoH.2zv@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:53:05 GMT
What has been peoples experiences with installing new hard-drives
in slabs? I assume that there is room for a 3.5" drive. I have
a handle on a 3.5" Quantum 540MB drive (don't ask me the model number).
How much pain would it be to install this? (colour, non-turbo)
later
jay
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jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca
"I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma."
-The Wizard of Oz
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Seek Recommendation for P5/90 System
Date: 9 Sep 1994 18:02:11 GMT
Organization: RGNET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34q7v4$844@pop0.rain.rg.net>
References: <CvuIsL.HzE@seas.ucla.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <CvuIsL.HzE@seas.ucla.edu> faust@sleet.seas.ucla.edu (William
Perry Faust) writes:
> I'd like to buy a P5/90 Pentium system to run NEXTSTEP and am seeking
> the net's advice. The only real source of information I have (besides
> this newsgroup) is the NeXT Hardware Configuration guide, but its list
> of ``certified'' and ``listed'' systems is outdated. I'd be interested
> in any other sources of information that might help me make a decision
> (I remember mention of a homebrew list).
>
> I'm sure there are many others like me out there who feel the same way
> as I do. What I'd really like is a good NS Pentium system without
> spending an exorbitant amount of money. For example, buy a system
> from Dell or Gateway (with the appropriate non-NS compatible components
> removed), insert a video card, scii controller, whatever, possibly buy
> some drivers from Talus, and have a reasonable amount of confidence that
> it will all work.
>
> If you've recently bought a P5/90 system from Dell, Gateway, or the
> like, I'd be interested in hearing about your specific configuration and
> any advice you may have.
>
> I'll summarize any responses received.
>
> Bill Faust
> faust@ee.ucla.edu
> Los Angeles, California
I've been running a GW 2000 P5-90 for over 3 months now.. I love it...
Heres the config..
P5-90
32mb ram
1 gig SCSI HD
NexStor NX92 NCR SCSI PCI
#9 GXE64 PRO 4mb RAM
Sony CDU561 CDROM
Pro Audio Basic
Talus NCR SCSI driver
Sony 17SE monitor
I run my system all the time at 1152x864 32bit color.. Extremely fast...
If you go for the GW P5-90, only order the Box, KB, mouse.. Thats it.. No
video, HD and the least ram that they will sell you.. I ended up selling
the 2 4 meg simms that came with the P5-90 and buying 4 8 meg simms.. ,
Then get the best price you can on a #9GXE 64 PRO, CDROM drive, etc.. and
I would go to Talus and buy there 1 GIG Wide SCSI drive and controller and
driver for about a 1000.00..
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SMC Elite 16 Ultra problem
Date: 9 Sep 1994 21:33:36 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <34qkbg$m5f@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <34pm2e$j59@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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richarda@coffee.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Achmatowicz) writes:
>Is anyone sucessfully using the SMC Elite 16 Ultra cards???
As far as I know the Ultra is not supported in NS3.2 yet. Hardware
Compatibility Guide says it is planned for Q3.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Questions about NS/Intel installation
Message-ID: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 21:02:43 GMT
Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP
(at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided
to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself.
This raises a few questions, that I'm hoping to get the answers for.
What are the currently available SCSI drivers? What brand of SCSI card
must I have in order to install NeXTSTEP from the CD?
Is it still required to disconnect the 5.25" drive? Does it have to be
physically disconnected, or can it be disabled in the BIOS?
Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be
booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the
second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary
drive for all OSs you wish to boot?
Thanks!
--
Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130
Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063
2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@prosoft.com (Glen Biagioni)
Subject: Re: To power down or not to power down...
Message-ID: <CvvtMG.12o@prosoft.wimsey.com>
Sender: glen@prosoft.wimsey.com (Glen Biagioni)
Organization: ProSoft Solutions, Inc.
References: <34qfni$3h@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 21:42:16 GMT
In article <34qfni$3h@galaxy.ucr.edu> 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo
Bonzai) writes:
> This is the question. I have heard that since my 040/25
> NeXT cube is a UNIX machine that I'm not supposed to power down like
> a regular PC. Is this true? Will it shorten the life on my hardware
> if I do (or don't) ? Any help anyone could give would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
The question of powering down Unix and the question of powering down
hardware are separate question.
Its not nice to power down Unix, since
1. Its takes a while to bring Unix up.
2. Often cron is used to run maintainance tasks at odd hours.
Look at /etc/crontab and the cron man pages
The question about hardware was addressed in a recent thread; in
this news group I believe. If I remember correctly, this issue was
somewhat unresolved.
Power saving might well be your determining factor. That is, are the
advantages of leaving Unix running worth the cost of power to keep it up.
--
Glen Biagioni
glen@prosoft.com (NeXTmail accepted)
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: To power down or not to power down...
Date: 9 Sep 1994 20:14:42 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <34qfni$3h@galaxy.ucr.edu>
This is the question. I have heard that since my 040/25
NeXT cube is a UNIX machine that I'm not supposed to power down like
a regular PC. Is this true? Will it shorten the life on my hardware
if I do (or don't) ? Any help anyone could give would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance...
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/ - Edward Witten /
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From: mudog@aol.com (MuDog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Mac to NeXT?
Date: 9 Sep 1994 18:45:02 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <34qohe$3pu@search01.news.aol.com>
I've got a PowerBook and a Cube. I'd like to be able to transfer large
files between them. Does anybody know how to do so cheaply? I'm thinking
along the lines of a serial connection. If anyone has tried this, please
let me know.
Thanks,
Josh Neal
mudog@aol.com
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Seek Recommendation for P5/90 System
Date: 9 Sep 1994 18:46:10 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34qoji$7ek@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <CvuIsL.HzE@seas.ucla.edu> <34q7v4$844@pop0.rain.rg.net>
Steven Kornreich (steve@eps.com) wrote:
: If you go for the GW P5-90, only order the Box, KB, mouse.. Thats it.. No
: video, HD and the least ram that they will sell you.. I ended up selling
: the 2 4 meg simms that came with the P5-90 and buying 4 8 meg simms.. ,
: Then get the best price you can on a #9GXE 64 PRO, CDROM drive, etc.. and
: I would go to Talus and buy there 1 GIG Wide SCSI drive and controller and
: driver for about a 1000.00..
How much did you pay for RAM? The P5-90 I purchased from Gateway came
with 16MB standard, & I payed $600 to up it to 32MB. Unlike many other
companies (Zeos in particular), Gateway didn't charge me any more for 2
16MB SIMMS instead of 4 8MB SIMMS. The board only has 4 SIMM slots, and
the 4 8MB approach leaves you with no room to upgrade.
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Replacement monitors for color NeXTstations?
Date: 9 Sep 1994 21:23:14 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34qjo2$jns@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <34plagINNjuf@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
In article <34plagINNjuf@oasys.dt.navy.mil> rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil (Bob
Kurhajetz) writes:
> I'm in the process of sorting out the possible choices for
> replacing a few of our original NeXT 17" color monitors -
> Interested in hearing from folks who have tried 3rd party
> displays + what your experience good or bad or whatever has
> been.
I use a 21" Viewsonic multisync with my colorstation. It has a nice,
sharp 0.25 mm dot pitch.
Any multisync which will sync at 68 Hz and has at least the 11xx by 8xx
resolution of the NeXT will do.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Station HD'
Date: 9 Sep 1994 21:28:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34qk2p$jpo@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CvvAoH.2zv@cunews.carleton.ca>
In article <CvvAoH.2zv@cunews.carleton.ca> jbright@schoolnet (Jason
Bright) writes:
> What has been peoples experiences with installing new hard-drives
> in slabs? I assume that there is room for a 3.5" drive. I have
> a handle on a 3.5" Quantum 540MB drive (don't ask me the model number).
> How much pain would it be to install this? (colour, non-turbo)
There is easily room for one 3.5 inch half height hard drive, in addition
to the floppy drive. It is also possible to install a second third height
hard drive. Installing this additional third height drive is a little
easier in a mono slab than a color slab, since the positon of the RAM
gives more room.
It is very easy to switch the half height drive. One screw and you have
the top of the machine off. A second screw and you have the hard drive
loose. Then just unplug the power and SCSI cables.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Formatting a new HD on black hardware???
Message-ID: <1994Sep8.221400.638@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 22:14:00 GMT
In article <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu> v_white@ece.wisc.edu (Victor
White) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have a cookbook recipe on how to format a new hard drive?
>
> I picked up an unformatted micropolis 4110 1 Gig HD, (usual trade-off,
> good price, little support) and have set the terminators so that I can
> boot off of my other hard drive with no offending errors.
>
> But when I boot the cube, I get no recognition of the new hard drive.
> It's as if it's not there.
>
> I set it to SCSI ID 4, put a /dev/ entry in my fstab, but when I
> boot it spins up, LEDs flicker saying it is working, but it
> doesn't come to life.
>
> I called the tech support people where I bought it from, and they said I
> need to do a low level format first. But how?
>
> Any ideas, hints, or spiritual words of advice?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Victor White
> v_white@janus.ece.wisc.edu
>
Try to format it with a Mac and then put it on your NeXT, normally it is recognized by the system. You can then format it with NeXTfs.
It is the way ive done it.
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From: jzimmer@gilligan.esu7.k12.ne.us (Jeff Zimmerman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WTB: Optical Disks
Date: 9 Sep 1994 23:59:52 GMT
Organization: NDE Nebrasks
Message-ID: <34qsto$3kd@news.nde.state.ne.us>
I'm purchasing an 030 cube with an optical drive, no floppy drive. It's
got NS 2.1 installed on the drive, and I'd like to upgrade it to NS 3.x.
Any suggestions on how to do the installation, since I can't run
UpgradePrep from the floppy? Help!
Jeff
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From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Suggestion Wanted: NSA (Hitachi) SuperScan 21
Date: 9 Sep 1994 18:56:38 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu
Message-ID: <34r3om$7jc@nunki.usc.edu>
Keywords: NSA, Hitachi, SuperScan, 21
Hi,
I'd like to hear suggestion and experience on the monitor:
NSA (Hitachi) SuperScan 21 (CM2198MU), especially how well
it works with high resolution and high scan frequency.
Thanks in advance.
--
Ta-Wei "David" Li
UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California
Member, League for Programming Freedom
"Innovate, don't litigate."
From: van@crl.com (Van C. Bagnol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Vectra XU Certification (was: HP Vectra XM2 PC Certification?)
Date: 9 Sep 1994 21:52:56 -0700
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Message-ID: <34re38$5rc@crl3.crl.com>
References: <34la6q$m5o@news.iastate.edu>
Rod Ragner (rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu) wrote:
: The HP Vectra XM is certified for NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel Processors, but
: the machine is being discontinued and replaced by the XM2, [...]
: [...] If anyone (including NeXT Computer and Hewlett Packard) have any
: information about drivers for the HP Vectra XM2, please let us know!
I'd like similar info on the HP Vectra XU (the PCI 90MHz Pentium series).
Will there be drivers for the XU and/or the XU/GX? How about the P/60?
The latest HCG mentions none of these.
I've got a chance to sneak NeXTSTEP into the door here where I work but it
has to be alongside a purchase of a P5-90 for evaluating Windows S/W packages.
:-(
BTW, what do people think of JCIS's product line? Can I stake my job on them?
: Thanks for listening!
Ditto!
Van
--
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"Parang lumalakad ako sa loob ng panaginip" / Teatro ng Tanan / Windsurfing
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI-2 Controller DPT 2024/90 with Cache up to 64MB
Message-ID: <Cvtz2C.6n@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
References: <Cvr8n0.6H@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 21:44:35 GMT
Can someone also point out what sort of SIMM's the DPT can take ?
I see that it takes some very expensive ECC SIMM's but does it also accept
normal 72-pin SIMM's ?
Thanks
Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peisch@cfa.org (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Loading a 712 is easy, right?
Message-ID: <CvwFLD.Jx2@cfa.org>
Organization: CANS
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 05:36:46 GMT
I have a 712/60 and a 712/80 sitting here. I have "NEXTSTEP Release 3.2
for PA-RISC" in a caddy and that caddy neatly fits into a NeXT CD-ROM
drive and a NEC 3xe drive (set to SCSI 2) on the SCSI bus. As I don't
have a SCSI-2 to SCSI-2 cable, I'm using a NEC SCSI-1 to SCSI-2 adaptor
and a black NeXT (compatible) SCSI cable.
What parts don't belong in this pile of hardware that I can't get to load?
The specifics on the hosts are:
712/60
Boot ROM: 1.5
RAM: 32MB
Disk: 1GB Micropolis (I think)
with the video kit...
712/80
Boot ROM: 1.4
RAM: 32MB
Disk: 1GB Seagate (I'm sure)
with the video kit...
The problem is that I follow the distructions (to the letter) as provided
in the "Installing and Configuring NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for PA-RISC"
beginning on page 3. I've hacked up numbers 1, 2 and 3 pretty well. When
I perform number 4, with the appropriate SCSI number, the screen pops back
to the ROM graphic, hits the SCSI bus a couple times and then comes back
to the BOOT_ADMIN> prompt.
I'm guessing (nay, hoping) that this is trivial. Do other folks who
purchase 1GB disks in these hosts typically get HP disks and not Seagate
or Micropolis disks? Does it really make a difference? My vendor hasn't
ever dealt with workstations before (not necessarily bad -- they still
have yet to deal with NEXTSTEP, eh?).
Any help?
aTdHvAaNnKcSe
peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Seek Recommendation for P5/90 System
In-Reply-To: faust@sleet.seas.ucla.edu's message of Fri, 9 Sep 1994 04:50:44 GMT
To: faust@sleet.seas.ucla.edu (William Perry Faust)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep9085419@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CvuIsL.HzE@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 12:54:19 GMT
In article <CvuIsL.HzE@seas.ucla.edu> faust@sleet.seas.ucla.edu (William Perry Faust) writes:
If you've recently bought a P5/90 system from Dell, Gateway, or the
like, I'd be interested in hearing about your specific configuration and
any advice you may have.
After about half a years of research on the subject, I ordered the
following system last week. I've not yet received it, but people are
running very similar systems successfully. I tried to buy the most
high-end supported components. One certainly could reduce the price a
bit by selecting somewhat less pricey components. None of these
components require third-party drivers.
Dell XPS90 minitower with 540 MByte IDE drive, Lexmark keyboard,
combo disk drive, 32 MBytes of RAM, a GXE64Pro 2 MByte video card,
and a three year next day, on-site maintenance contract. $3500
Upgrade from 2 MByte to 4 MByte for the GXE64Pro. $200
Seagate barracuda 2.1 GByte drive with Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI
controller (supported only since NS 3.3 pr2). $1800
Viewsonic 21" monitor $1600
I already have the following components (used for years with my black
slab) which I'll move to the new machine. These are approximate
street prices today.
Toshiba 3401 double-speed CD-ROM $300
Archive Python DAT drive $900
Let us know what you order.
Carl Edman
From: ups@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.admin,comp.answers,news.answers
Subject: Uninterruptible Power Source FAQ
Followup-To: comp.misc
Date: 10 Sep 1994 12:08:55 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34s7kn$skt@phoebe.jpl.nasa.gov>
Summary: Answers to FAQs about Uninteruptable Power Sources (UPS)
Originator: root@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Archive-name: UPS-faq
Version: 1.6
Uninteruptable Power Source (UPS) FAQ.
VERSION 1.5, July 8, 1994.
Sections:
01: What is this document all about?
01: What is this document?
02: How is this document made available?
03: Who maintains this?
04: Where did this information come from?
05: How can I contribute?
06: How may this document be distributed?
07: Got anything else you'd like to add?
08: Glossary.
02: What is a UPS and how does is work?
01: What is a UPS?
02: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
03: Vendor X says that (description) is a UPS, is it?
04: Describe the types of UPS's?
05: How can a UPS help me?
06: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
07: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running?
08: What is a "good" UPS?
09: Support contracts on UPS's.
10: Self maintenance tips.
11: Is a UPS a glorified power strip?
03: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
01: Can a UPS shut the computer down when power is low?
02: Can I write my own shutdown routines?
03: What freely distributable solutions are there?
04: No UPS software works on my machines, what to do?
04: How big a UPS do I need?
01: How are UPS sizes determined?
02: What VA rating do I need?
03: How do I determine this?
04: What else should I consider?
05: Can I use an UPS with a laser printer?
06: What UPS sizes do you use on what equipment?
05: Specific manufacturer's info.
01: What vendors are there?
06: Acknowledgments
-----------------------------
01:
TOPIC: What is this document all about?
01.01
Q: What is this document?
A: This is a FAQ document on Uninteruptable Power Sources. It is
intended to provide a starting point for those people that want
to find out what they are, what they do, and what's available.
01.02
Q: How is this document made available?
A: Currently, its "home" is comp.misc. It is also crossposted to
comp.unix.admin, comp.sys.sun.hardware, comp.sys.hp.hardware,
comp.sys.sgi.hardware, comp.sys.next.hardware,
comp.sys.ibm.hardware, comp.sys.dec, comp.answers and
news.answers. This posting is automated and will occur on or
near the 10th of each month. If there are other groups to
which this document should be posted, please let me know, but
if I post it to every group where UPS questions get asked, that
would be a lot of groups. I'm open to suggestions.
This document is also available via anonymous FTP. The master
sits on navigator.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.23.82) in pub/doc/faq
as the file UPS.faq. It is also available via anonymous FTP
from rtfm.mit.edu in:
pub/usenet-by-group/comp.misc/Uninteruptable_Power_Source_FAQ
01.03
Q: Who maintains this?
A: Right now, this document is maintained by Nick Christenson. My
preferred email address is npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov, and I
would like it very much if questions regarding this document
could have the word "UPS or UPS FAQ" or some such in the Subject
line. Note: I am maintaining this on my own time, so please
don't be upset if it takes a while for me to respond to your
queries. Also none of the information in here represents the
views or has the blessing of any organization whatsoever. The
maintainer of the FAQ is to be held solely responsible for its
contents.
01.04
Q: Where did this information come from?
A: Thankfully, many people have rallied to my cry to fill in
the many gaps in my original draft. This is now a group work,
although I claim full responsibility for misstatements and
inaccuracies.
01.05
Q: How can I contribute?
A: You should mail new information, corrections, suggestions, etc.
to the current maintainer of this FAQ. If you provide a suggestion,
make sure you reference where the information is located in the
document. I guarantee that suggestions of the form "Change the
word 'always' to 'almost always' in the part about surge suppression."
will be ignored.
01.06
Q: Are there any restrictions on distribution of this document?
A: This document is copyright by the author. You are encouraged
to distribute this document for any non-commercial purpose
as long as the contents remain unchanged. And a pointer to
an up-to-date version is included.
01.07
Q: Got anything else you'd like to add?
A: Yes, now that you mention it. The people who contribute to this
document can speak only about equipment they have experience with.
This may reflect a bias toward or against certain brands, features,
functions, etc.. Please keep in mind that the suggestions, brand
names and functions here are by no means exhaustive, or even
necessarily applicable to your situation. Also, if you have
information that is not in this document, please submit it to
the maintainer listed above. If you submit information, please
say whether you'd like it to be attributed to you or not. I am
more than glad to give credit to the fine people who helped with
this document, but I want to respect the anonymity of those
people who would prefer it.
01.08
Q: Glossary
A: This was contributed almost entirely by some kind soul. I just
cleaned it up a bit.
Blackout: Complete loss of power. Some literature considers a voltage
drop below about 80V to be a blackout as well since most
equipment will not operate below these levels.
Sag or Brownout: Decrease in voltage levels which can last for
periods ranging from fractions of a second to hours. Can be
caused by heavy equipment coming on line such as shop tools,
elevators, compressors etc. Also occurs when utility companies
deliberately do this to cope with peak load times.
Spike: An instantaneous and tremendous increase in voltage often
caused by a direct lightning strike on a power line or when
power returns after a blackout.
Surge: An substantial increase in voltage lasting a small fraction
of a second, often caused when high powered appliances such as
air conditioners are switched off.
EMI/RFI Noise: ElectroMagnetic Interference and Radio Frequency
Interference. Caused by, inter alia, lightning, generators,
radio transmitters, industrial equipment.
MOV: Metal Oxide Varistors used to control spikes. These are
common in Power Strips. If you see more than two, you likely
have a fairly decent Power Strip. They look like largish disk
capacitors.
Inverter: Circuitry that converts DC battery power to AC power
required by most computer equipment.
Surge Protector: Circuitry consisting of MOVs, capacitors, rod-core
inductors etc. for suppressing surges and spikes usually embedded
in a power strip.
Line Conditioner: A transformer that attempts to smooth out
fluctuations in input voltage to provide near uniform output
voltage or voltage waveform.
02.01
Q: What is a UPS?
A: An Uninteruptable Power Source is a device that sits between
a power supply (e.g. a wall outlet) and a device (e.g. a computer)
to prevent power outages from the supply from adversely affecting
the performance of the device.
02.02
Q: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
A: I pronounce it "ups", but most of the literature seems to favor
"you pee ess", since they use "a UPS" instead of "an UPS". This
document will try to follow the literature.
02.03
Q: Vendor X says that (fill in description) is a UPS, but it's
different that what you describe above. Who's right?
A: There really is no standard definition of what a UPS is.
Anything ranging from a 9 volt battery backup in a clock radio
to a building/compound wide backup generator has been called
a UPS by someone. The majority of this document refers to
objects larger than a beer can and smaller than a desk that
help devices remain temporarily operational when changes to the
power they receive would otherwise interrupt their function.
Maintaining power to a minicomputer (like a VAX 11) is beyond
the scope of this document. This FAQ deals with UPS equipment
that can be installed by a computer owner/administrator If you
have requirements that large, you need to talk to a qualified
electrician.
02.04
Q: Can you give me some more information on this?
A: (Kindly provided by Don Deal, Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu, my additions
are in [square brackets] )
The UPS industry is made up of many manufacturers, and there is
a lack of standard terms within the industry. I think this
sometimes borders on deliberate misdirection. (It's a jungle out
there!)
There are basically three different types of devices, all of
which are occasionally passed off as UPSs.
1. Standby power supply (SPS). In this type of supply, power is
usually derived from directly from the power line, until power
fails. After power failure, a battery powered inverter turns on
to continue supplying power. Batteries are charged, as necessary,
when line power is available. This type of supply is sometimes
called an "offline" UPS.
The quality and effectiveness of this class of devices varies
considerably; however, they are generally quite a bit cheaper than
"true" UPSs. The time required for the inverter to come online,
typically called the switchover time, varies by unit. While some
computers may be able to tolerate long switchover times, your
mileage may vary. [Some articles in the trade press have claimed
that their testing shows that modern PCs can withstand transfer
times of 100ms or more. Most UPS units claim a transfer time to
battery of about 4ms.]
Other features to look for in this class of supplies is line
filtering and/or other line conditioners. Since appliances
connected to the supply are basically connected directly from
the power line, SPSs provide relatively poor protection from
line noise, frequency variations, line spikes, and brownouts.
[Some SPS's claim to have surge/spike suppression circuitry as
well as transformers to "boost" voltage without switching to
the battery if a modest voltage drop occurs. An example is the
"APC Smart UPS" which claims it will switch to this boosting mode
if voltage drops below 103V (from the normal expected 120V) and
switches to battery only at 90V and below. This, it is claimed,
allows operation of the equipment indefinitely under brownout
conditions as long as voltage does not drop below 90V. I have
not tested this, and would be interested in independent data.
There are other vendors products that make similar claims.]
2. Hybrid UPS systems. I only know one vendor who sells them -
Best Power, Inc. The theory behind these devices is fairly simple.
When normal operating line power is present, the supply conditions
power using a ferroresonant transformer. This transformer maintains
a constant output voltage even with a varying input voltage and
provides good protection against line noise. The transformer also
maintains output on its secondary briefly when a total outage occurs.
Best claims that their inverter then goes online so quickly that
it is operating without any interruption in power. Other UPS
vendors maintain that the transition is less than seamless, but
then again it's not in their best interest to promote Best's products.
Best has a sizable part of the UPS market.
[ Note: According to some sources, ferroresonant transformers in an
UPS system can interact with ferroresonant transformers in your
equipment and produce unexpected results. The Moral: Again, test
before you buy. -npc ]
3. What I call "true" UPS systems, those supplies that continuously
operate from an inverter. Obviously, there is no switchover time,
and these supplies generally provide the best isolation from power
line problems. The disadvantages to these devices are increased
cost, increased power consumption, and increased heat generation.
Despite the fact that the inverter in a "true" UPS is always on,
the reliability of such units does not seem to be affected. In
fact, we have seen more failures in cheaper SPS units.
02.05
Q: How can it help me?
A: An UPS has internal batteries to guarantee that continuous power
is provided to the equipment even if the power supply stops
providing power. Of course the UPS can provide power for a while,
typically a few minutes, but that is often enough to ride out
power company glitches or short outages.
Advantages:
1) Computer jobs don't stop because the power fails.
2) Users not inconvenienced by computer shutting down.
3) Equipment does not incur the stress of another (hard)
power cycle.
4) Data isn't lost because a machine shut down without
doing a "sync" or equivalent to flush cached or
real time data.
02.06
Q: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
A: An UPS traditionally can perform the following functions:
1) Absorb relatively small power surges.
2) Smooth out noisy power sources.
3) Continue to provide power to equipment during line sags.
4) Provide power for some time after a blackout has occurred.
In addition, some UPS or UPS/software combinations provide the
following functions:
1) Automatic shutdown of equipment during long power
outages.
2) Monitoring and logging of the status of the power supply.
3) Display the Voltage/Current draw of the equipment.
4) Restart equipment after a long power outage.
5) Display the voltage currently on the Line.
6) Provide alarms on certain error conditions.
7) Provide short circuit protection.
02.07
Q: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running after the power
goes?
A: How big a UPS do you have and what kind of equipment does it
protect? For most typical computer workstations, one might
have a UPS that was rated to keep the machine alive through
a 15 minute power loss. If you need a machine to survive
hours without power should probably look at a more robust
power backup solution. Even if a UPS has a very small load,
it must still operate it's DC (battery) to AC converter,
which costs power. A rough extrapolation from APC's
documentation, leads me to guess that a 2000 VA UPS can
operate it's own converter (with no extra load) for just
over 8 hours. A 1250 VA UPS could run its converter for
about 5. These are *very* rough guesses based on information
provided by one vendor for one vendor.
2.08
Q: Given the same vendor claims, how can I tell a "good" quality
UPS from a "poor" quality UPS?
A: Testing, testing, testing. I can't emphasize this enough. There
are many good and bad units out there that call themselves UPS's.
Caveat Emptor.
Some properties you might look for are:
1) Sinusoidal power output. In general, the closer the AC output
of the UPS is to a sine wave, the better it is for your equipment.
Many UPS units, especially the cheaper ones, deviate a great
deal from a sinusoidal output. Some of them generate square
waves. Don't buy these, period, they can cause serious damage
to your equipment.
2) Does the UPS have a manual bypass switch? If the UPS is
broken or is being serviced, can you pass power through it to
your equipment? The last thing you want is for a broken UPS to
be the cause of extra downtime.
3) The more information about a UPS's operation you can get from
watching the unit itself, the better. How much power (or
percentage load) the equipment is drawing, how much battery
life is left and indications of the input power quality are
all very useful.
4) Some newer UPS's can communicate with their monitoring software
via network connection and SNMP! This is wonderful *if* your
network is on a UPS! Also, beware, I have heard of dealers
advertising "Network UPS" monitoring where the network is
the normal serial connection (no SLIP or PPP).
5) Does the UPS vendor offer support/maintenance contracts. If
they don't even offer them, I would suspect the quality of the
equipment.
If you do have a UPS that does not output a sinusoidal waveform,
some manufacturers *strongly* urge you to not put a surge protector
between the UPS and the computer. The surge protector might mistake
the non-sine waveform as a power surge and try to send it to ground.
This could be bad for your UPS. I don't know if this has happened
or not, but I wouldn't chance it.
02.09
Q: Should I make sure I have a support/maintenance contract for my
UPS systems?
A: Some people strongly recommend this, but to be honest, I don't
know how important it is. I haven't had any UPS's long enough
to have enough of them fail to know what the failure modes are
likely to be. Some people, with more experience than I in these
matters, insist that a UPS support/maintenance contract is as
important as your computer support/maintenance contract. I can't
argue with them. In any case, it's almost certainly worth
pricing at any rate.
02.10
Q: What sort of maintenance can I perform myself?
A: One good thing you might want to do is periodically test the
UPS's and their failure modes. A good time to do this might be
right after after a periodic level 0 backup. Nobody is logged
in and you've got full backups of the machines. Pull the plug
on the UPS to simulate and outage and see how the transition
goes. Those UPS units that use lead-acid batteries (that's
most of them, I'm told) do not have a battery memory and should
be run dry as few times as possible. It's probably not a bad
investment to do this once on one UPS to learn how much UPS
time you can expect in a real power outage. Note: depending on
the manufacturer, UPS batters can be expected to last between
about 1 and 5 years before they need to be replaced.
It might be useful to install a GFI (Ground Fault Interruptor)
socket to facilitate this testing without having to pull the plug.
These are the sockets found in most modern kitchens and
bathrooms with a red and a black button. You push the latter to
cut power and the former to restore power.
02.11
Q: Isn't a UPS just a glorified power strip/surge protector with
some batteries and a little power conditioning thrown in?
A: Basically. It's also got a power inverter and some other circuitry.
It may also have a timer, thermometer or other gadgets.
03:
TOPIC: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
03.01
Q: If the power is out for a long time, I would like to have my
computer automatically shut itself down gracefully before the
UPS batteries die. Can I do this?
A: Yes. Most UPS manufacturers support software that will do this
for some UPS's on at least some platforms. Ask your UPS vendor
for details.
03.02
Q: How does it work, I'm a starving (fill in the blank) and I really
don't want to pay for software unless I absolutely have to.
A: Usually, there is a serial connection running from a UPS into
your computer. The UPS sends information along the serial line
as it goes. If you can decode which pins contain which information,
how the information is formatted and figure out what it wants to
hear from the computer side, you're all set. Make sure you have
the right serial cable and know how the pins map between DB9 and
DB25 as both your computer and your UPS may take either.
Since UPS units with network based monitoring capabilities are
appearing on the market, we can hopefully get something that will
communicate with those units.
Here is a skeleton script provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com.
Definitely check this out as a starting point, but don't expect
it to do anything meaningful without some work.
---------start upsd.sh-------------
#! /bin/sh
# Shut down system in case of extended power failure
# This should be the serial port to which the UPS is connected
# This port must be set to block on open until the DCD line
# is asserted - many UNIX systems have this determined by
# the minor device number, if not, see if there is some way
# to enable this behavior on your system
PORT=/dev/ttya
# Ok, this should block until there is a power failure
: > $PORT
# If we reach this point, we've lost power
wall << EOF
The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!
EOF
# call shutdown (or init or whatever)
exec shutdown
-----------end--------------------
03.03
Q: Hmmm... that sounds kinda complicated. Has someone already done
this?
A: Any solution would almost certainly be vendor specific. However,
some brave souls have provided partial functionality for certain
vendors' UPS's. I don't know the original source, but I have a
copy available for anonymous FTP at navigator.jpl.nasa.gov in
the pub/src/upsd directory. I haven't tried it and I don't
honestly know if it even works.
Note: Different UPS's produce different sorts of signals. Just
installing this already built package may require a great deal of
work. The cabling can be complicated, etc.. I would be
interested in hearing where this software does/doesn't work.
03.04
Q: I can't find monitoring software that will work on my configuration.
What should I do?
A: Well, it seems you have a few choices:
1) Build your own. See item 03.02.
2) Use something freely distributable. See item 03.03.
3) Lean on your UPS vendor to port to your platform.
4) Try a different vendor that supports your platform.
See item 05.01.
04:
TOPIC: How big a UPS do I need?
04.01
Q: How are the "sizes" of UPS's determined?
A: Typically, a UPS has a VA rating. The VA rating is the maximum
number of Volts * Amps it can deliver. The VA rating is not the
same as the power drain (in Watts) of the equipment. Computers
are notoriously non-resistive. A typical PF (power factor:
Watts/VA) for workstations may be as low as 0.6, which means that
if you record a drain of 100 Watts, you need a UPS with a VA
rating of 167. Some literature suggests that 0.7 may be a
good conversion factor, but this will depend heavily on the
machine. WARNING: Don't take my word for it! Note: Some UPS's
can continue to deliver power if the VA rating is exceeded, they
merely can't provide above their VA rating if the power goes.
Some can't provide power above their VA rating at all. Some may
do something really nasty if you try. In any case, I *strongly*
recommend not doing this under *any* circumstances.
04.02
Q: How can I tell what VA rating I need for my equipment?
A: First, when possible, get VA rather than wattage ratings. See
Q04.01 above.
There are a couple of ways:
1) Direct measurement. You can get equipment to measure
the current draw of your equipment directly. You may
or may not have access to this. If you are part of an
organization that has it's own facilities/electrical
type people, they're likely to be able to do this. They
might help you out if you ask nice.
2) Compare notes. If you know someone with the same setup
you're using, ask them what they use and how close they
are to the maximum VA rating.
3) Use a chart. Most vendors can help you out for common
equipment. If you have an unusual setup, or a mix
vendors a lot, you're probably out of luck here.
4) Use the equipment rating. Most pieces of computer
equipment have a power rating on some back panel. This
number is usually high, as it is necessary for the
manufacturer to play it safe or they'll get sued.
Note: Method 1 is by far the best, method 2 and 3 are secondary,
method 4 is usually overkill, but pretty safe. There are some
examples in section 4.6, but the information is probably worth
what you paid for it :-)
04.03
Q: Hmmm... seems like a tough thing to determine.
A: Yeah, it can be. It's also very important. If you get a UPS
that's too big, then your equipment can survive a longer outage.
If you get a UPS that's too small, then you could be in deep
trouble. Therefore, I recommend that you be conservative in
buying these things, unfortunately, this costs money.
04.04
Q: What else should I consider?
A: It would be nice to know how long your site's typical power
outages are. In some places, with nice weather and a flakey
power grid, the power is almost never out for more than 5 minutes,
but this could happen quite frequently. In this case, you may
as well use a UPS with a VA rating close to your equipment
rating with no extra batteries. If your area has longer outages,
in the half hour or hour range, as is often the case in
thunderstorm country, you can either buy UPS's with multiples
of the VA rating of the equipment, since oversizing a VA rating
for a UPS has the effect of lengthening the amount of time your
equipment can stay up in case of a power outage, or you can buy
additional battery units for a smaller UPS. You can probably
get away with doing simple math to determine how much longer a
larger UPS will keep your equipment running, but I recommend
running a few tests before committing to a large purchase
order. Also, your UPS vendor will almost certainly be glad
to help you size the equipment you need. If all else fails
and you guess wrong, or move equipment to a location with
different power status, you may be really, really glad if you
bought a UPS that can have additional battery packs added.
04.05
Q: How about I use one of these UPS thingies for a laser printer?
A: Don't *ever* do this. If you ever measured the current draw
of a laser printer during startup (and during printing) you'd
be stunned at what it pulls. All UPS manufacturers I know of
tell you not to do this.
04.06
Q: So, what sorts of UPS sizes do you use on your equipment?
A: BIG DISCLAIMER. I disclaim everything about these figures.
At best, they are very, very rough. Heck, I may be lying.
Don't trust them. Here they are anyway.
400 VA:
Sparc 2 with 3 600 MB disks, 1 200 MB disk, 1 exabyte 8200
tape drive, 19" color monitor.
600 VA:
HP 750 with 4 1.3 GB disks, internal 4mm tape drive and internal
CD-ROM drive, external disk cabinet and 19" color monitor.
500 VA:
SPARC 2GX clone. 1 1.2 GB disk, 4 2.0 GB disks, 2 tape drives,
1 CD-ROM drive, "big" monitor.
300 VA:
Sparc 2 clone with 100W power supply, internal 424 disk, 16"
color monitor, external 1 GB disk drive.
05:
TOPIC: Specific manufacturer's information.
05.01
Q: What vendors are there and what do they produce?
A: Here is a very incomplete list, based only on what I know.
Please give me information to expand it. I make no claims
as to the accuracy of this information. It is mostly based
on personal recommendations and vendor propoganda.
Company: APC, American Power Conversion
US Address: 132 Fairgrounds Road
P.O. Box 278
West Kingston, RI 02892
FR Address: 4, rue Ste Claire Deville
Zac du Mandinet-Batiment Espace
LOGNES
77447 MARNE LA VALLEE Cedex 2
FRANCE
US & CAN Phone: 1-800-800-4272
Europe Phone: (+33) 1.64.62.59.00
World Wide Phone: (401) 789-5735
Email: none known
UPS Products:
Smart UPS in sizes up to 2000 VA. The Smart UPS's do
monitoring and can shutdown multiple machines using the
PowerChute software. I recommend putting these on
computers. SNMP adaptor can be installed.
Back UPS same as Smart UPS except that you cannot
communicate interactively with the UPS and it will not
support SNMP. I recommend putting these on dumb equipment
like network equipment, X Terminals and Macintoshes (sorry,
I couldn't resist.)
Matrix UPS a modular "fault-tolerant" system. Any
module, except the insulation unit, can be "hot-swapped"
at any time. Also additional battery modules can be added,
again, while the system is running. SNMP adaptor can be
installed.
Software:
PowerChute, PowerChute PLUS. They produce it themselves.
Supported on: SunOS, HP-UX, SCO, AIX, AT&T UNIX,
Interactive UNIX, XENIX, and probably others by now.
Contributed by:
APC information contributed by Nick Christenson,
npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov without consultation with
APC. Additional information provided by Joe Moss,
joe@morton.rain.com. I have no affiliation with APC
except as a satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: Best Power Technology, Inc.
P.O. Box 280
Necedah, WI 54646-9899
US Phone: 1-800-356-5794
Email: None known
UPS Products:
FERRUPS: Ferroresonant-Based, Line-Interactive UPS, sizes
from 500 VA - 18 KVA.
Features: Standard power features, serial line
communications, runtime monitoring, logging,
automatic shutdown with optional software, user
configurable.
FORTRESS: Advanced, line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 360
VA - 2 KVA.
PATRIOT: Low-Cost Standby Power Systems, 250 VA - 850 VA.
Contributed by: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
------------------------
Company: Emerson Electric Co., Computer Power Div.
US Address: 9650 Jeronimo Road
Irvine, CA 92718, USA
UK Address: Elgin Drive, Swindon
Wiltshire SN2-6DX, England
FR Address: 8, Rue de l'Esterel
Silic 502
94623 Rungis Cedex
France
IT Address: SICE S.p.A. [Note national Name!]
Via Rossini 6
20098 San Giuliano Milanese
Italy
US Phone: 1-800-BACKUPS
UK Phone: +44 458 841898
FR Phone: +33 146 862336
EMail: n/a
Products:
Accupower GOLD Series:
UPSes for 750, 1000, 1500, 2100 VA, the latter with
external Batt Pack. Connector for {Power,Accu}Mon S/W.
5 yr Batt Life. Good Display (3 Status LEDs, Load
and Batt Charge LED Bargraphs). Switches positioned
wrong (Main Power Switch on Front, Batt Check/Alarm
off on Back - I'ld prefer them the other Way 'round).
other UPSes?
PowerMon Software:
Triggers for Outage, long Outage, Batt low. Uses one
serial Connector. Logging and Warnings to Users.
Requires special Cable (included in PowerMon Kit).
NOTE: The "Batt low" Trigger does not work "on SunOS
4.1.1 and above due to OS Limitations". >:-C I don't
know whether this includes Solaris 2.x.
AccuMon Software:
Reported to support all Kinds of fancy Communication
Items (gathering Power Line and internal UPS Data,
test Batt Cap periodically and announce Batt Aging,
switch off UPS on Computer Command, Logging Facili-
ties for all these Functions)
Other Software?
Contributed by: Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
who has no relation to Emerson.
------------------------
Company: Easy Options IBM Corporation
Address: IBM Corporations
Easy Options
Dept. WC3J
P.O. Box 2150
Atlanta, Ga 30301-9948
US Phone: Unknown.
UPS Products:
UPS ranging from 250 VA to 600 VA with surge and noise suppression.
Sine wave output, Test/Alarm, etc..
These UPS's come with an insurance policy. If your UPS damages
your systems, they'll pay you up to $25,000.
Software:
Works with APC's PowerChute software.
I doubt that IBM is making their own UPS's rather than repackaging
someone elses, but I'll be glad to post a correction if they are.
Contributed by: Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
who has no relation to IBM, or Easy Options except as
a satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: Clary Corporation
Address: Clary Corporations
320 W Clary Ave
San Gabriel, CA 91776
US Phone: 818 287-6111
UPS Products:
I'm not sure of the entire line, but their PC series includes
UPS ranging from 400 VA to 1500 VA with surge and noise
suppression. Voltage regulation to 3%, frequency to 1 Hz,
RS232 signal output, LED load and charge indicators.
Sine wave output, Alarm, etc..
Contributed by: Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com who has no relation
to Clary Corporation except as a user.
------------------------
Company: Advanced Electronic Systems, Inc.
2005 Lincoln Way East
Chambersburg, PA 17201
US Phone: 1-800-345-1280
Email: None known
UPS Products:
Stediwatt UPS: Designed specifically for use with NeXTSTEP.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Also on the NeXTSTEP front, there is a company called BenaTong (?)
which sells a software package called PowerGuardian for NeXTSTEP
only. It will work with APC, TrippLite and UNISON UPS's. If,
for example, you call APC and ask for PowerChute for NeXT, they
will refer you to Power Guardian.
Contributed by: Chuck Bennett, (chuck@benatong.com) who works
for this company.
Also for NeXTstep, Max Hailperin wrote a package for monitoring
Best Fortress UPS units called GACUPS. It consists of a daemon
and a GUI. The daemon will shut the NeXT machine down gracefully
and do logging. It also answers queeries from the GUI. The GUI
displays status information. It should be availalbe on the usual
NeXTstep anonymous FTP sites. One place you might want to check
is in : ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/. Any
reports on how it works?
Contributed by Max Hailperin (max@kolmogorov.gac.edu).
------------------------
Company: DELTEC
2727 Kurtz St.
San Diego, CA 92110-9980
US Phone: 1-800-854-2658
Email: None known
UPS Products:
"Most technologically advanced *true* on-line UPS."
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Exide
8521 Six Forks Road
Raleigh, NC 27615
US & Canada Phone: 1-800-554-3448
1-919-872-3020
------------------------
Company: Acme Electric Corp.
43 Argow Place
Nanuet, NY 10954
US Phone: 1-800-833-1373
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Tripp Lite
500 N. Orleans
Chicago, IL 60610-4188
US Phone: 1-312-329-1601
Email: None known
UPS Products:
On-line UPSs with pure Sine Wave output.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Data General
UPS Products:
Data General repackages another vendor's UPS's (from
Exide?) with some sort of special cable. They deserve
some mention since they provide UPS monitoring software
built in to the AViiON (their UN*X boxen) line. It can
be managed through sysadm(1M).
Contributed by: Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
------------------------
Other companies: Sola Electric
ITT Power System Corp
Digital Equipment Corporation. (They probably
repackage someone else's stuff, but
they're likely to support it and you
can order it from their catalog.)
I'd appreciate any information I can get on these.
06:
TOPIC: Acknowledgements
I would like to thank Charles Rhoades (cwr@zeus.jpl.nasa.gov) for
his sage remarks on my draft of this document.
I would like to thank Kevin R. Ray (kevin@kray.com) for sending me
the freely distributable upsd software.
Thanks also to Don Deal (Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu) for a great
many valuable suggestions and that great section on the types
of UPS units.
The following people made valuable suggestions to this document:
Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
David E A Wilson, david@cs.uow.edu.au
Edward Hartnett, ejh@larry.gsfc.nasa.gov
Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com
Kurt Hillig, khillig@chem.lsa.umich.edu
Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
Steve Welch, smw@columbine.cgd.ucar.edu
Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com
Andrew J. Templin, nosilla@ohionet.org
Chuck Bennett, chuck@benatong.com
M.V.S. Ramanath, ram@sclara.qms.com
Max Hailperin, max@kolmogorov.gac.edu
Please note that I take full blame for any errors or omissions.
From: charles400@aol.com (Charles400)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT COMPATIBLE
Date: 10 Sep 1994 08:28:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <34s8oh$g16@search01.news.aol.com>
I n the Sept. 5th InfoWorld, on page 39, there is an ad from a group named
TAG. They claim that they sell Pentiums that run N.S. ANY INFO ABOUT THEM
WOULD HELP!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Dell Optiplex and MS-Mouse
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 15:13:34 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Sep10.151334.11304@cyantic.com>
In the Next Answers document for the Dell Optiplex 486 it says the Dell
PS/2 mouse is incompatible with NS/FIP, and that a Microsoft mouse should
be purchased instead.
Does this mean the PS/2 port is incompatible or just that the Dell mouse
running on the PS/2 port doesn't work?
When we ordered the machine, we ordered a Microsoft Mouse and they sent us
the PS/2 version, not the bus or serial mouse. I'd like to know if we need
to get one of the latter two.
Thanks
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166
1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
Subject: Re: To power down or not to power down...
Message-ID: <gcrowCvxIGn.AGw@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <34qfni$3h@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 19:36:22 GMT
The CRT's in the monitors supplied with the NeXT cube have a life of
10,000 to 20,000 hours. A year is 8,000 hours so if you leave your cube
on all the time your monitor will be dim in 2 to 3 years.
If your system is a monochrome one and is not a server, you should
definitely turn it off when not in use. If it is a color system, you will
still extend the life of the mechanical parts of the system (disk drives
and fans) by turning it off. Always turn the monitor off when you do not
plan to use the system for more than a few hours. Screen savers keep the
phosphor in a CRT from darkening, but they do not extend the life of the
CRT which ages as long as it is on.
At work I leave my system on all day long - it is bad for it to be
constantly turning it on and off, but I always shut it down at night and
over weekends.
The fact that the NeXT is a Unix system requires you to use the keyboard
power switch or mouse commands to turn the system off, and means that the
system will take longer than a PC to boot. The operating system type has
no affect on the life of the hardware.
Buckaroo Bonzai (96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu) wrote:
: This is the question. I have heard that since my 040/25
: NeXT cube is a UNIX machine that I'm not supposed to power down like
: a regular PC. Is this true? Will it shorten the life on my hardware
: if I do (or don't) ? Any help anyone could give would be greatly
: appreciated.
: Thanks in advance...
: /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
: / "String Theory is 21st century Physics that fell accidently into /
: / into the the 20th century" /
: / - Edward Witten /
: / NeXT-Mail Welcome!... uh, as soon as I figure it out :) /
: / All flames to dev/null /
: / 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu /
: /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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From: peisch@cfa.org (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Loading a 712 is easy, right?
Message-ID: <CvxqMo.459@cfa.org>
Organization: CANS
References: <CvwFLD.Jx2@cfa.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 22:32:45 GMT
I've been advised that the 712 only knows how to talk to the Toshiba 3401
mechanism (which the HP drive uses). I now have a 3401 enroute and
anxiously await their arrival.
I'm going to receive nearly twenty of these in the next week or so and
we're hoping to put our application out on it ASAP. Not counting what's
in the release notes that accompanied the 3.2 HPPA materials, does anyone
have any other little hints or gotcha's that it might be good to know about?
peter
(thanks to Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> and Greg Gerard
<ggerard@CS.Trinity.Edu> for their help on this!!!)
Peter Eisch (peisch@cfa.org) wrote:
: I have a 712/60 and a 712/80 sitting here. I have "NEXTSTEP Release 3.2
: for PA-RISC" in a caddy and that caddy neatly fits into a NeXT CD-ROM
: drive and a NEC 3xe drive (set to SCSI 2) on the SCSI bus. As I don't
: have a SCSI-2 to SCSI-2 cable, I'm using a NEC SCSI-1 to SCSI-2 adaptor
: and a black NeXT (compatible) SCSI cable.
: What parts don't belong in this pile of hardware that I can't get to load?
: The specifics on the hosts are:
: 712/60
: Boot ROM: 1.5
: RAM: 32MB
: Disk: 1GB Micropolis (I think)
: with the video kit...
: 712/80
: Boot ROM: 1.4
: RAM: 32MB
: Disk: 1GB Seagate (I'm sure)
: with the video kit...
: The problem is that I follow the distructions (to the letter) as provided
: in the "Installing and Configuring NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for PA-RISC"
: beginning on page 3. I've hacked up numbers 1, 2 and 3 pretty well. When
: I perform number 4, with the appropriate SCSI number, the screen pops back
: to the ROM graphic, hits the SCSI bus a couple times and then comes back
: to the BOOT_ADMIN> prompt.
...
: Any help?
: aTdHvAaNnKcSe
: peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wagners@cuug.ab.ca (Wagner)
Subject: PC Backups Over Modems??????
Message-ID: <Cvxtpr.EGG@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 23:39:27 GMT
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Ten days ago I placed a request for information on the Net re backing up
PCs over modem lines .... unfortnately responses received were not
received due to a problem with my mailbox.
For those that were kind enough to respond to my request for information,
or for those that have information on PC backups over phone lines, please
send info. I have been promised that the fix is permanent on my mail
account. Hopefully not permanent in a negative way!!!!
"Original request: If you know of any products or information on products
that performs PC backups over phone lines (modems) please forward
information to me, wagners@.cuug.ab.ca."
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacob Gore <jacob@blackbox.enmu.edu>
Subject: Source for black printer part?
Sender: news@math.enmu.edu (The Garbage Heap)
Message-ID: <1994Sep11.012101.26934@math.enmu.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 01:21:01 GMT
Organization: Eastern New Mexico University, Department of Mathematical Sciences
I broke the cover latch on my NeXT laser printer. Any suggestions on where I
can get a replacement? (Besides sending the printer to Bell Atlantic.)
Jacob
---
Jacob Gore, Eastern NM U. Jacob@BlackBox.ENMU.Edu | Jacob@Gore.Com
Member of the League for Programming Freedom (LPF)--lpf@uunet.uu.net
upport still needs listening skills improvement...)
Bell Atlantic does not repair them either.
Any suggestions?
Jacob
---
Jacob Gore, Eastern NM U. Jacob@BlackBox.ENMU.Edu | Jacob@Gore.Com
Member of the League for Programming Freedom (LPF)--lpf@uunet.uu.net
From: ambi@kaizen.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Intel] Generic PostScript Printer Question
Date: 11 Sep 1994 02:30:26 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <34tq42$jtv@news.bu.edu>
This may be a silly question but...
How much memory is needed for a PS printer for a NeXTSTEP machine? Is the
printing process on white hardware more-or-less the same as black hardware?
I used to own a NeXTstation and NeXT 400 dpi printer and from what I
remember the printer memory wasn't a problem because all of the processing
was done on the station. Does this still hold true for white hardware?
We just bought a Sharp JX-9460PS 600dpi printer. I think it has 2MB of
memory in it. Any recommendations for additional memory? I've already
run out of memory on it when trying to print just about anything with an
image in it.
Thanks,
Mike
--
Mike Amirault
Kaizen Solutions, Inc.
ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: [Intel] Generic PostScript Printer Question
Message-ID: <Cvy2xn.Dz6@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <34tq42$jtv@news.bu.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 02:58:35 GMT
ambi@kaizen.com wrote:
: This may be a silly question but...
: How much memory is needed for a PS printer for a NeXTSTEP machine? Is the
: printing process on white hardware more-or-less the same as black hardware?
: I used to own a NeXTstation and NeXT 400 dpi printer and from what I
: remember the printer memory wasn't a problem because all of the processing
: was done on the station. Does this still hold true for white hardware?
: We just bought a Sharp JX-9460PS 600dpi printer. I think it has 2MB of
: memory in it. Any recommendations for additional memory? I've already
: run out of memory on it when trying to print just about anything with an
: image in it.
The black NeXT laser was a very special case. All the rasterizing was done
on the workstation, and a bitmap was dumped to the printer (the printer
didn't really have anything in the way of brains). In other words, if you
attached a LaserJet to black hardware, all the rasterization would be
performed by the printer.
On any other Postscript printer in the world, the computer dumps
the PS code to the printer, which is responsible for rasterizing it.--
Personally, I've never really had much trouble with 2MB of printer memory,
except when working with large bitmaps.
(All of this is moot if you are looking at software like DOTS, that
performs the rasterization on the PC end of things).
later
jay
*******************************************************************
Jason Bright
jbright@schoolnet.carleton.ca
"I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma."
-The Wizard of Oz
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Epson Stylus Color Driver
Date: 10 Sep 1994 23:30:18 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <34ttka$4j7@anshar.shadow.net>
Is anyone working on a postscript driver for the new Epson Stylus Color
printer? This printer produces an incredible 720dpi, and I'd love to get
it working with NS.
Jay Fuchs
Jaytron Products Corporation
(305) 653-6925 (800) 327-5180 (305) 654-2815 Fax
jjfox@shadow.net
From: jburka@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Intel] Generic PostScript Printer Question
Date: 11 Sep 1994 03:38:31 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <34tu3n$dpa@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
References: <34tq42$jtv@news.bu.edu>
In article <34tq42$jtv@news.bu.edu> ambi@kaizen.com writes:
> We just bought a Sharp JX-9460PS 600dpi printer. I think it has 2MB of
> memory in it. Any recommendations for additional memory? I've already
> run out of memory on it when trying to print just about anything with an
> image in it.
Generally speaking, for 600dpi printing, you'll need 6 megs of RAM. For
300dpi, you'll need 2 megs.
With the 9460PS, you should be able to print any page by changing the
resolution to 300dpi (take the printer offline, hold down the menu button
for 3 seconds and then let go; you should see "I/F = PARALLEL" on the
display. Press the menu button until the display shows the resolution and
then use an arrow key to change this to 300, then press the enter key. Put
the printer back online.
Because the 9460PS uses a banding technique, it should be able to print
virtually any page of pure text at 600dpi. However, as soon as you add
graphics of almost any size, the memory requirement jumps up. Right now
I'm making do with 2 megs, using 600dpi when I can.
Be warned that printing graphics on the 9460PS from NS for Intel is
ridiculously slow (at least on a 486 66 with 32megs of RAM). Text is nice
'n fast.
Jeff
--
|Jeffrey C. Burka | Pithy, insightful quote to be inserted |
| | when one occurs to me. *If* one occurs |
|jeffy@eng.umd.edu | to me. |
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Do not buy a Dell XPS P90 before reading this
Date: 11 Sep 1994 04:58:56 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34u2qg$n60@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: Dell, P90, serious problems
So far Dell has replaced by motherboard twice, power supply once, and
RAM once and still this machine will not stay for more than 2 or 3 days.
Someone suggested it could be the serial drivers, I use the serial port
alot, but it hung up within a few hours of rebooting and I never used
the serial driver or even turned my modem on.
I must admit that instead of installing NS I just moved the SCSI disk
and controller from another PC, a Dell 450DE, into the XPS P90 thinking
that since the install only copies files from the CD-ROM there would be
no difference and NS could cope with the change. Can anyone find fault
with that? NeXT employees feel free to speak up.
Since I have spoken with quite a few people who have had no problem with
the exact same machine except no DPT 2021 ISA SCSI I think it must be
NeXT's DPT SCSI driver. I sent in a bug report but since the crash is so
sporadic there's not much that NeXT can do, so they claim.
Also, I just had a crash to day with following message
Failed instruction exception (2, d, f000)
If anyone has a clue to what this means please say so. Is there a way to
get NS to be a little more verbose about problems? So far I have not
seen anything in /usr/adm/messages about SCSI related problems, in fact
there is usually no trace as to where the crash occurred or why.
Any help will be greatly appreciated
John Stanhope
PS. I have had the window server crashes as reported by users of
intel's marvelous PCI/ISA premiere motherboard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI-2 Controller DPT 2024/90 with Cache up to 64MB
Message-ID: <bchin.779205513@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <Cvr8n0.6H@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> <Cvtz2C.6n@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 13:58:33 GMT
Jacques Garbi writes:
>Can someone also point out what sort of SIMM's the DPT can take ?
>I see that it takes some very expensive ECC SIMM's but does it also accept
>normal 72-pin SIMM's ?
Yes, according to their sales literature and sales people.
Also, the new PCI controller is supposed to use the same
cache module as the older models, so if you have invested $$$
in an older DPT Smartcache III, you can take the cache module
from that controller and attach it to this new one.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Daydream on 030?
Date: 11 Sep 1994 09:17:20 GMT
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34uhv0$98l@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Has anyone been able to get the daydream box to work
on an 030 cube. I have no problems with the 040
but when I Install on an 030 the disk locks
(read light lock on) during the later part
of the boot up. I have scanned the SCSI bus
and selected the boot device and I have
tried both 3.0 and 3.2 NS. I have tried
4 different SCSI drives. I have even
tried to boot from a SCSI floppy using
the emergency disk. The daydream docss
state that Daydream will run on an 030 board.
Has anyone ever done this? I get as far as
the rounded corner Mac Desktop but I never
see the happy mac come up.
David
From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 1GB hard drives for black hardware
Date: 11 Sep 1994 10:05:57 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland
Message-ID: <34ukq5$qmr@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>
References: <34ig41$gh8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <Cvttzt.1r2@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Keywords: Micropolis
jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes:
>I am looking to add an external 1GB hard drive to a NeXTStation. I
>am willing to pay a bit of a premium for
>QUESTION(S): Does anyone have any recommendations regarding drive
>manufacturers and suppliers? Has anyone purchased and used a
>Micropolis drive, in particular the 4100? Has anyone dealt with
I have added a second internal drive to my cube, a Micropolis 4110.
It's sure fast, but I have had a few problems which may or may not
be to do with the drive.
I do a lot of work with digital audio (with SoundWorks) and when
recording I frequently get the following message on the console:
Warning: canblock FALSE on page allocation
Generally there is no ill effect from this until I reboot and I'm
told the hard disk is damaged and must be repaired. The fsck always
fixes it up, so it's just a nuisance.
Occasionally, I also get the following message, there is a system
panic, and the machine dies a horrible death:
Zone "non-kernal map entries" rempty
I guess this is related to the 1st problem.
Other than that though, great drive. Blindingly fast. If anyone can
help with *my* problem I'd like to hear from them...
>As always, thanks for your time and advice.
>--
>John Devlin
>Department of Philosophy
>The University of Michigan
>Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
>(313) 764-6285
Steve
steve.brandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail welcome
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2048 byte sector disks
Date: 11 Sep 1994 14:28:49 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Message-ID: <34vi91$s4u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <34klvi$pq4@news.mic.ucla.edu>
ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
>Has anyone run NS/FIP with 2048 byte sectors? Does it improve
>speed/access? How does one tweak disk -i for such performance? (I guess it
>depends on whether the FFS can grab sectors in 2048 byte chunks.)
If you want anything but 512b/s formats you will need to make a 'kick' disk of
some sort to kick from the kick disk to the 1024b/s or higher formatted disk.
I have tried 2048, 4096, & 8192b/s formatting and didn't get any significant
space or speed improvements. Although, if you plan to use a disk as a swap
disk a 4096b/s disk will probably yield performance improvements since page
size for vm is 4096.
The reason the bump from 512b/s to 1024 b/s yield big performance and space
improvments is that NS uses 1024block sizes for all files anyway. Thus, on a
512b/s drive it must write to blocks even when in OS it only needs to write
one. Using the 1024b/s size will match things up hardware and OS wise and
youll get a nice performance boost.
Later, John
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From: jtodd@ss1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2048 byte sector disks
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 11 Sep 1994 20:52:36 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <34vqmk$mii@news1.digex.net>
References: <34klvi$pq4@news.mic.ucla.edu> <34vi91$s4u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
: >Has anyone run NS/FIP with 2048 byte sectors? Does it improve
: >speed/access? How does one tweak disk -i for such performance? (I guess it
: >depends on whether the FFS can grab sectors in 2048 byte chunks.)
: If you want anything but 512b/s formats you will need to make a 'kick' disk of
: some sort to kick from the kick disk to the 1024b/s or higher formatted disk.
: I have tried 2048, 4096, & 8192b/s formatting and didn't get any significant
: space or speed improvements. Although, if you plan to use a disk as a swap
: disk a 4096b/s disk will probably yield performance improvements since page
: size for vm is 4096.
On this note, has anyone been able to format their Quantum 105 LP drive for
swapdisk with the larger block size? I've been fiddling around with it, and
I can't seem to get "sdformat" (the new, easy drive formatter) to format the
drive. It gives me a message that states that the drive does not understand
the commands given to it. Here's a typical example of what I get, and
please note that I've tried all sorts of variants on the command line,
including the -q, -f, and -v flags.
4 redfox# sdformat -i4 -b1024
_______
INQUIRY
Peripheral Qualifier: 0
Peripheral Device Type: 0x0 (read/write disk)
Removable Media: No
ANSI-Approved Version: SCSI 2
Response Data Format: 0x1
Relative Addressing: No
32-bit Wide Data Transfers: No
16-bit Wide Data Transfers: No
Synchronous Data Transfers: Yes
Linked Commands: Yes
Tagged Command Queuing: No
Soft Reset: No
Vendor Identification: 'QUANTUM '
Product Identification: 'LP105S 910109405'
Product Revision Level: '2.8 '
Vendor Specific: '07/30/903105232451 '
Error during Mode Sense
The SCSI Device at target ID 4
did not respond to the Mode Sense command,
and probably cannot be formatted with any block size other than it's
default.
--
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 2048 byte sector disks
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 17:23:50 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ciQrJaO00WBO84Nag5@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <34vi91$s4u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Sep-94 Re: 2048 byte
sector disks by John Kheit@gandalf.rutge
> If you want anything but 512b/s formats you will need to make a 'kick' disk
> of some sort to kick from the kick disk to the 1024b/s or higher formatted
> disk.
What are you talking about? I reformatted my Seagate ST1280 drive to
1024 bytes/sector, and my system didn't require a 'kick' disk, whatever
that is.
> I have tried 2048, 4096, & 8192b/s formatting and didn't get any
> significant space or speed improvements.
Well, most drives are physically unable to create sectors larger then
1024 or 2048 bytes, so it's not surprising that creating 4 or 8 k
sectors won't do anything. However, upping the sector size from 512 to
1024 will provide extra space (because their are fewer sector
prologues), and better performance as well.
> Although, if you plan to use a disk as a swap disk a 4096b/s disk will
> probably yield performance improvements since page size for vm is 4096.
Vm_page_size == 8192 bytes under NEXTSTEP.
> The reason the bump from 512b/s to 1024 b/s yield big performance and space
> improvments is that NS uses 1024block sizes for all files anyway.
> Thus, on a 512b/s drive it must write to blocks even when in OS it only
> needs to write one. Using the 1024b/s size will match things up hardware
> and OS wise and you'll get a nice performance boost.
Well, half right-- having the logical sector size match the physical
sector size helps, but that doesn't explain why using 1024 byte sectors
results in more disk space. The reason for that is given above.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Hardware FAQ
Message-ID: <CvzH29.428@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <34nb1u$ngd@portal.gmu.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:01:20 GMT
Jonathan D Gardner (jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu) wrote:
: I am trying to find the NeXT Hardware FAQ, where is it at? I need to
ftp.next.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation
Message-ID: <CvzI6q.6s9@eskimo.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:25:37 GMT
Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote:
: Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP
: (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided
: to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself.
Hi, Chris. I'm in the process of getting up on my feet with NSFIP.
My initial impression with NS is that network support does not appear
before, but during, the bootup process. Albeit more complex, I'll bet
that there is a way(for the seasoned NextStepper) to assemble a boot
strapper that points to a remote drive for the boot process.
: Is it still required to disconnect the 5.25" drive? Does it have to be
: physically disconnected, or can it be disabled in the BIOS?
The "jury" is still out on this subject with my initial experience. I
have successfully installed without my 5.25, yet I have successfully
booted my system from the CD-ROM in single-user mode with the 5.25
connected. BTW, I'm using AMI's Enterprise IV. I was also able to
partially boot from my BusLogic 747S floppy logic FWIW; based on my
latest success, there is a good chance that this card can floppy boot
completely; all of this under Adaptec 1542B emulation; I plan to try
the BusLogic driver soon.
: Can NeXTSTEP be placed on the second physical IDE drive, and still be
: booted? Is there a boot manager that can boot partitions off of the
: second drive, or is it required to make a partition on the primary
: drive for all OSs you wish to boot?
That's a ways down the road for me, but I read at ftp.next.com that a
boot strapper exists to do what you're thinking of.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: [Intel] Generic PostScript Printer Question
Message-ID: <CvzJAp.8C1@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <34tq42$jtv@news.bu.edu> <34tu3n$dpa@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:49:36 GMT
Jeffrey C. Burka (jburka@eng.umd.edu) wrote:
: Generally speaking, for 600dpi printing, you'll need 6 megs of RAM. For
: 300dpi, you'll need 2 megs.
Is it reasonable to extimate that 6M is sufficient for a full A4-page
using 300dpi color?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Number Nine GXE Almost Works
Message-ID: <CvzKrv.BEH@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 22:21:30 GMT
I successfully installed(Yeaahhhh!!!) 3.2 on my AMI Enterprise IV EISA
system using BusLogic's 747S EISA controller in Adaptec 1542B mode.
My Number Nine GXEL16 displayed VGA just fine while I configured
devices; I opted to configure it in 1024x768x2(leaving alone all the
other default settings), changed Pointing Device to serial to match my
wireless Logitech, and added a parallel port to Other.
After saving my configuration and restarting, the initial panel
appears, checking the disk, etc. When the panel completes, the screen
then goes blank as if it's changing video mode. At that point the
Nanao monitor begins beeping, indicating that it is no longer
receiving a signal from the #9. Disk drive activity continues for
some time. Ultimately I end up resetting the system; FWIW, I blindly
attempt to shut the system down first by moving the physical mouse in
a right-upwardly direction, then double clicking, followed by the
q-key; since I am unfamiliar with NS, I'm probably missing a step or
two.
A friend of mine suggests that I try ^C when the screen is blank, and
disk activity ends, in the hope of bypassing some prompt that may be
getting in the way. I plan to set config=Default at the Boot: prompt
to recover, but welcome anyone's suggestion. Is suspect that the
additional video memory requires a different starting video address.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 2048 byte sector disks
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 19:28:35 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <AiQt_Xy00iV2E5oVtE@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <34vqmk$mii@news1.digex.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Sep-94 Re: 2048 byte
sector disks by John Todd@ss1.digex.net
> The SCSI Device at target ID 4
> did not respond to the Mode Sense command,
> and probably cannot be formatted with any block size other than it's
> default.
I think that should be clear enough; the drive does not respond to the
'mode sense' SCSI command, and thus probably does does respond to the
'mode select' SCSI command either, which is used to change the block
size. Ie, that drive probably can't be reformatted to 1024 byte
blocks....
(Sorry.)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Spin CA-VBHY? After all,
--------------------------------------------+ "You need your 100% US-RDA of
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | Vitamins A, C, L, and T...."
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | --semper ubi sub ubi--
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help wanted with mono ADB NeXT monitor
Message-ID: <1994Sep12.100614.261@tanuki.twics.com>
Date: 12 Sep 94 10:06:14 JST
Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access]
I have a mono ADB black hardware monitor which is just over a year old. It's
been behaving OK for most of the time, but I've just noticed that it's
starting to show slightly off horizonatal white lines against a dark
background (screen saver), which occasionally expand into larger jittery
white horizontal streaks moving slightly up and down the tube (sorry, this
is quite difficult to describe).
Possible causes I have thought of:
Prior to this, the monitor was in a potentially electrically noisy environment
(on the same circuit as an air-conditioner). However, it's now in a slightly
quieter environment (close to a cordless telephone base station and desktop
fluroescent lamp), and the problem seems worse if anything.
The monitor's been moved by express service two or three times - something
may have become misaligned (original packing materials were used all the time
for shipping).
The air-conditioner had a habit of shedding lumps of crud - although I tried
to guard against this dropping into the monitor, it's possible that something
fell inside - I haven't removed the black cover yet.
Other info: the top of the monitor seems very hot - the NeXT is currently in
a warmish (>25C) environment. It may always have been this hot, but maybe
not.
The screen display is slightly non-horizontal relative to the monitor. This
may or may not be relevant.
I'm hoping that this is just a case of a ceramic screwdriver and tweaking the
right adjustment pots - if anyone knows which ones, or what else I should be
doing, I'd be very grateful.
Many thanks in advance
Hugh Ashton
NeXTMail to hugh@furuike.twics.com
non-NeXTMail to hugh@twics.com
or reply to this newsgroup.
From: rpomeroy@atlantis (Ron Pomeroy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Questions about NS/Intel installation
Date: 12 Sep 1994 05:37:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
Sender: rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <350pfe$g9s@news.tamu.edu>
References: <CvvrsK.HEG@nvc.cc.ca.us> <CvzI6q.6s9@eskimo.com>
Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote:
: Since it doesn't appear to be possible to netboot a PC into NeXTSTEP
: (at least it seems that way from the lack of response), I've decided
: to go ahead and put NeXTSTEP onto the PC itself.
[munch munch]
According to the literature distributed at Expo, Netbooting
under NSFIP will be supported in NS3.3.
Ronald Pomeroy
Senior Electrical Engineering Student
Texas A&M University
rpomeroy@atlantis.tamu.edu
From: marcus@ee.pdx.edu (Marcus Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DSP/Phone interface
Date: 12 Sep 1994 01:36:41 -0700
Message-ID: <3513up$i74@ursula.ee.pdx.edu>
Summary: What to use to use DSP as a automated dialer?
Are there any inexpensive products that interface the DSP to
a phone line? I don't care about modem capability, I'm actually
interested in voice synthesis. Seems like the interface would
be fairly simple. I remember something about a 2400bps/fax modem
over DSP. Any ideas?
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Mac to NeXT?
Message-ID: <1994Sep12.122838.2965@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <34qohe$3pu@search01.news.aol.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:28:38 GMT
In article <34qohe$3pu@search01.news.aol.com> mudog@aol.com (MuDog)
writes:
> I've got a PowerBook and a Cube. I'd like to be able to transfer large
> files between them. Does anybody know how to do so cheaply? I'm thinking
> along the lines of a serial connection. If anyone has tried this, please
> let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh Neal
> mudog@aol.com
Mac TCP or NFS-Share(IMHO)
Cheers 8^)
Fabien
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: will this drive work?
Message-ID: <1994Sep12.123923.3034@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:39:23 GMT
In article <34mu5p$7m5@gatekeeper.esl.com> gary@esl.com (Gary Merrick)
writes:
> Please help!
>
> I've got a Fujitsu M2694ESA (1 Gbyte) to use as a replacement drive
> on my '040 cube. But for some reason, after installing a system on it
> using build disk, and setting the SCSI id to 0, the system refuses to
> boot. The error message is this:
>
> sc: unexpected msg
> SCSI unexpected msg
> (and repeats)
>
> Anybody have an idea what this is, and how I can fix it?
>
> Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> Gary
Hi,
You will have to change the "enable target sync negotiation" to false.
Look at the dive hardwre manual.
Hope that helps.
Fabien
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From: laroche@sig.enst.fr (Jean Laroche )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Scsi drive max size
Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:34:55 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris France
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Hi there!
Does anyone know of a max size for external scsi drives on Next 3.0?
We got a 4GB drive and it's impossible to run newfs unless we partition the
disk in exactely two equal partitions (of less than 2GB), for example using the
builddisk application.
This seems to indicate that the max size of scsi drives supported by Next 3.0
is 2GB.
Is there any info on that point?
Thanks in advance.
J. Laroche
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Scsi drive max size
Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:08:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3521to$9kv@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <351sev$8rs@enst.enst.fr>
In article <351sev$8rs@enst.enst.fr> laroche@sig.enst.fr (Jean Laroche )
writes:
> We got a 4GB drive and it's impossible to run newfs unless we
> partition the disk in exactely two equal partitions (of less
> than 2GB), for example using the builddisk application. This
> seems to indicate that the max size of scsi drives supported
> by Next 3.0 is 2GB.
That's right. 2GB max per partition.
Does anybody know if this limit will be removed in NextStep 3.3?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 2048 byte sector disks
Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:18:10 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <352612$50h@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <ciQrJaO00WBO84Nag5@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <ciQrJaO00WBO84Nag5@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Sep-94 Re: 2048 byte
>sector disks by John Kheit@gandalf.rutge
>> If you want anything but 512b/s formats you will need to make a 'kick' disk
>> of some sort to kick from the kick disk to the 1024b/s or higher formatted
>> disk.
>
>What are you talking about? I reformatted my Seagate ST1280 drive to
>1024 bytes/sector, and my system didn't require a 'kick' disk, whatever
>that is.
I believe the original comment about 'kick' disks referred to intel
platforms. MSDOS and many a BIOS cannot deal with hard disk configured
for 1024 byte sectors. Provided you can get the early parts of NS and
the appropriate drivers loaded (ie: roughly equivalent to whats on the
original installation floppy) you can use the larger sector size with intel.
Some people use a specially configured floppy and others leave a small
partition on an IDE drive to simplify this process. This is sometimes
required in cases where you have both IDE and SCSI and the BIOS forces
all boots off of floppy or IDE and you want NS running off of SCSI.
On the original black hardware, this sector size is not a problem.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Scsi drive max size
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:04:28 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8iR9Ugu00iV586iX97@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <351sev$8rs@enst.enst.fr>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Sep-94 Scsi drive max
size by Jean Laroche @sig.enst.f
> Does anyone know of a max size for external scsi drives on Next 3.0?
I have heard of people sucessfully using a 9GB drive (from Seagate, I
believe) under NEXTSTEP.
> We got a 4GB drive and it's impossible to run newfs unless we partition the
> disk in exactely two equal partitions (of less than 2GB), for example using
> the builddisk application.
That's right. The maximum partition size for a usable BSD 4.3
filesystem (at least under the version used by NEXTSTEP) appears to be 2
GB.
> This seems to indicate that the max size of scsi drives supported by Next
> 3.0 is 2GB.
There is a big difference between the maximum size of the device and the
maximum size of a user filesystem (ie, the BSD 4.3 FFS).
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
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From: stufduff@albion.unmc.edu (Sean W. Duffy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printer Upgrade?
Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:37:17 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska Medical Center, Omaha, NE, USA
Message-ID: <35274t$7d4@netserv.unmc.edu>
Hey!
Anyone know of a printer upgrade for an HP LaserJetIIID that will make it
work with NeXT? Or, if not; is Dots my only hope?
Sean (I did WHAT?) Duffy
stufduff@albion.unmc.edu
From: silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:04:05 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Message-ID: <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
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What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for
a slab? I would prefer something in the range
300-500MB. (Also have 1GB external drive).
Silvio Eberhardt
Dept. Engineering
Swarthmore College
Nextmail: silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP-PA keyboard options
Date: 12 Sep 1994 21:05:04 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <PJS.94Sep12140504@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
Are PC-style keyboards the "preferred" choice for Geckos, or the Unix
keyboard? Are both supported under NS?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Message-ID: <Cw1Ftq.vD@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 22:29:48 GMT
In article <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt) writes:
>
> What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for
> a slab? I would prefer something in the range
> 300-500MB. (Also have 1GB external drive).
I'd consider a 1+GB drive, such as the Fujitsu 3.5"
half height.
I bought mine at FastAccess 708-268-8787
--
personal opinions
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 2048 byte sector disks
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 17:47:26 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QiRAlia00iUzM_rus5@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <352612$50h@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Sep-94 Re: 2048 byte
sector disks by Jerry Weiss@casbah.acns.
> >What are you talking about? I reformatted my Seagate ST1280 drive to
> >1024 bytes/sector, and my system didn't require a 'kick' disk, whatever
> >that is.
>
> I believe the original comment about 'kick' disks referred to intel
> platforms. MSDOS and many a BIOS cannot deal with hard disk configured
> for 1024 byte sectors.
Why am I not surprised? In any case, don't blame NEXTSTEP for the
problems with PC hardware....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Best Video Adapter?
Date: 12 Sep 1994 22:16:15 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <352jvf$4t4@news.mic.ucla.edu>
What looks to be the best video adapter under NS (3.3)? Can any of them do
1600*1200 in >70Hz noninterlaced mode (ala Matrox)?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bell@nosc.mil (Thomas Bell)
Subject: Nextstep ----> HP JetDirect via lpd.
Message-ID: <1994Sep12.235416.21541@nosc.mil>
Keywords: Nextstep, printer, JetDirect
Sender: news@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 23:54:16 GMT
Has anyone had any success printing to an HP Laserjet 4si with a JetDirect
card from NextStep 3.2?
Tom Bell
bell@nosc.mil
NCCOSC RDTE DIV
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Scsi drive max size
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 20:11:09 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <QiRCsR600iV1QAwtQi@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3521to$9kv@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Sep-94 Re: Scsi drive
max size by Todd Takken@leland.stanf
> That's right. 2GB max per partition.
>
> Does anybody know if this limit will be removed in NextStep 3.3?
Yes, it will, according to someone who shall remain nameless (unless
they don't want to be) at NeXT.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: phickey@octel.com (Patrick T. Hickey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next Color Printer
Date: 12 Sep 1994 19:36:12 GMT
Organization: Octel Communications Corp.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <352ajc$fp8@info.eng.octel.com>
Keywords: color printer, Canon
Apologies if this is FAQ material, but I failed in my efforts to locate it
so there you have it.
Can I use my NeXT (Canon) color printer with a Macintosh? I was advised
that changing the ROMs would do the trick in order to create a generic
Apple printing device.
Will the printer work *as is* with a Macintosh?
Has anyone dealt with this or is there a better way to approach the issue.
I really like the printer and would like to utilize it in *another life*.
Suggestions would be most helpful and appreciated.
cheers,
patrick
phickey@octel.com or patrick@idyll.com
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Scsi drive max size
Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:27:04 -0700
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <352kjo$ps0@triton.ucsd.edu>
References: <351sev$8rs@enst.enst.fr> <3521to$9kv@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3521to$9kv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu writes:
|In article <351sev$8rs@enst.enst.fr> laroche@sig.enst.fr (Jean Laroche )
|writes:
|
|> We got a 4GB drive and it's impossible to run newfs unless we
|> partition the disk in exactely two equal partitions (of less
|> than 2GB), for example using the builddisk application. This
|> seems to indicate that the max size of scsi drives supported
|> by Next 3.0 is 2GB.
|
|That's right. 2GB max per partition.
|
|Does anybody know if this limit will be removed in NextStep 3.3?
This isn't a NeXT limitation so much as it is a generalized Unix
limitation. File pointers are 32-bit signed integers, and negative
values are reserved for error indication. Thus the largest file
system is 2^31 - 1 bytes.
You can overcome the 2-partition limit by writing your own /etc/disktab
entry for the disk in question. You can have up to 7 partitions on
the disk, named "a" through "g". Don't try to make a partition "h",
that means something special to NeXT.
carl
--
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clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2048 byte sector disks
Date: 13 Sep 1994 01:35:39 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <352vlb$t8p@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <QiRAlia00iUzM_rus5@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <QiRAlia00iUzM_rus5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Sep-94 Re: 2048 byte
> sector disks by Jerry Weiss@casbah.acns.
> > I believe the original comment about 'kick' disks referred to intel
> > platforms. MSDOS and many a BIOS cannot deal with hard disk
configured
> > for 1024 byte sectors.
>
> Why am I not surprised? In any case, don't blame NEXTSTEP for the
> problems with PC hardware....
Not that NeXT is perfect, of course. But in the PC world, it's
so much harder to know what's a hardware problem and what's a
software problem.
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
living in the Seattle area and loving it (NeXTmail/MIME spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do not buy a Dell XPS P90 before reading this
Date: 11 Sep 1994 20:30:59 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Sep11213059@steffi.demon.co.uk>
References: <34u2qg$n60@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
To: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
In-reply-to: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu's message of 11 Sep 1994 04:58:56 GMT
<jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu> writes:
>So far Dell has replaced by motherboard twice, power supply once, and
>RAM once and still this machine will not stay for more than 2 or 3 days.
>Someone suggested it could be the serial drivers, I use the serial port
>alot, but it hung up within a few hours of rebooting and I never used
>the serial driver or even turned my modem on.
Just curious. Is this the same model that Darcy bought? :-)
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nextstep ----> HP JetDirect via lpd.
Date: 13 Sep 1994 06:42:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <353hkp$c2s@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Sep12.235416.21541@nosc.mil>
In article <1994Sep12.235416.21541@nosc.mil> bell@nosc.mil (Thomas Bell) writes:
>Has anyone had any success printing to an HP Laserjet 4si with a JetDirect
>card from NextStep 3.2?
I tried JetDirect lpd printing with HP DeskJet 1200C/PS. It works,
but with the lpd interface of JetDirect, you can't turn off the burst
page that has just 3 or 4 text lines indicating print job info.
Backup your NetInfo master's /etc/netinfo directory, then
try loading something like below via command as root:
niload -r printers / < hplj.niload
Adust "rm" field to the real hostname of the printer, and
"HP_LaserJet_4Si.ppd" must be available in one of the standard
directories where PPD files are stored (/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj).
[PPD filename and "ty" field must match with traslation of "_" to " ".]
--- hplj.niload --
name = printers;
_writers = "*";
CHILDREN = {
name = hp_lj4si;
_nxfinalform = ();
lo = lock;
lp = "";
note = "HP LaserJet 4Si via JetDirect lpd";
rm = hostname_for_hplj4si;
rp = "";
sd = /usr/spool/NeXT/hp_lj4si;
ty = "HP LaserJet 4Si";
};
--- cut ---
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USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
(NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hårseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: BT445C & BusLogicFamily-driver
Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:32:01 +0200
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <353v31$jg@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>
Keywords: BT445C
Has anyone tested the BusLogic 445C SCSI-card with the "BusLogicFamily" driver
(what version of BT445C) ?
Arne (arneha@ifi.uio.no)
From: Ingo Feulner <ifeulner@cube.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody installed a 200MB Syquest?
Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:02:23 GMT
Organization: Cube Informationssysteme GmbH, Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3544cf$4gj@cubenx.cube.de>
Has anybody yet installed a 200MB Syquest drive successfully?
We've tried it but formatting 200MB disks fails. 88MB disks format without
problems.
Any ideas?
Thanks for any help, Ingo.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard)
Subject: Boot/installation with AIC6X60: Help needed
Message-ID: <viggo.779459076@njord.diku.dk>
Sender: viggo@njord.diku.dk
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 12:24:36 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
I have finally put together Intel hardware to run NS, but the installation
fails. My setup is this:
40 MHz no-name motherboard with 16M
Localbus QAccess par/ser/floppy/IDE/SCSI
Sanyo SCSI CD-ROM
Maxtor 540M harddisk with 256KB cache and Block mode transfer
Localbus ET4000W32I with 1M
The QAccess anounces itself as QACCESS SCSI Bios 1.0 and is based on the
Adaptec AIC6260 chip. The board is configured to use interrupt 11 and port 340.
The CD-ROM label says CDR-H93. Through EZSCSI I got the following info about
the CD-ROM:
SCSI id#2
Sanyo CRD-400I Rev. 1.32
SCSI-2
Synchronous mode: Not supported
SCSI Linking: Supported
Command Queuing: Not supported
During the installation NS writes
ide:Read error:Status=0x58 error=0x0 cyl=0x0 sec=0x1 drhd=0xa0
from time to time. Does anybody know what this means ? Is it important ?
It shows up with or without the block mode transfer.
Here comes the really tricky part. At some point the installation writes
sd0: Sanyo crd-400I 1.32
Registering: sd0 at Target 2 LUN 0 at sc0
Registering: sd0a
sd0: Device Block Size: 2048 bytes
sd0: Device Capacity: 300 MB
sd0: DiskLabel: NEXTSTEP_3.2
If the disk is not loaded, the installation displays a message about waiting,
and waits until the disk is loaded. Then later on it writes
root on sd0a
rootdev 600, howto 0
And it dies right there OR it goes on to write
Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 20, trying /etc/init
Load of /etc/init failed, errno 20
And then it dies. (It keeps the disk light on, on the case but not on the drive
itself.) WHY ? What is wrong ? What is errno 20 ?
Is it because synchronous mode is not supported by the CD-ROM ? If the guy who
wrote the driver, or anybody who knows how the driver works, reads this please
email.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
--Allan
--viggo@diku.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh)
Subject: Re: Scsi drive max size
Message-ID: <Cw2oKv.AyE@fi.gs.com>
Sender: news@fi.gs.com (Netnews Administrator)
Organization: Fixed Income Division - Goldman, Sachs & Co.
References: <QiRCsR600iV1QAwtQi@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:36:30 GMT
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Sep-94 Re: Scsi drive
: max size by Todd Takken@leland.stanf
: > That's right. 2GB max per partition.
: >
: > Does anybody know if this limit will be removed in NextStep 3.3?
: Yes, it will, according to someone who shall remain nameless (unless
: they don't want to be) at NeXT.
When will NextStep 3.3 become available ? Will us Motorola guys get a free
upgrade ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Subject: W: Driver for ATI Grafik Pro Turbo 2MB
Message-ID: <Cw0y1r.qK@vergil.ping.de>
Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl)
Organization: Private Site
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 16:05:51 GMT
Is there one,
or can i use the 64 bit card with another driver until the driver comes
out?
I hate seeing 640 x 480!!!!
Thanks for help
Ciao Lars
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* Lars-Ulrich Kahl Tel/FAX:02304/78430 lars@vergil.ping.de *
* Am Elsebad 36 58239 Schwerte-Ergste NeXT-Mail please!*
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Daydream hardware (for NeXT to Mac)
Date: 13 Sep 1994 16:14:27 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <354j53$4du@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Keywords: daydream, mac
Hi,
My wife and I have a NeXT and she is interested in
learning about the Mac. I have heard about a product
called daydream, which connects to the DSP port on the NeXT
and essentially transforms the NeXT into a Mac. I sent
email to dancingbear, who is at least one distributor in
the US (if not the only one), and they sent me some
information and quoted a price of $795. My wife is a
student and I asked about an educational discount, to which
they replied that I must contact Quix (the manufacturer).
I sent them email (at quix@applelink.apple.com), but have
not heard anything yet.
Does anyone know what the edu price is? Is there a
better way to contact Quix? Can someone who has purchased
this product send me email with a brief summary of his/her
experience? Does it work well? Can I print to a NeXT
laser printer? If so, does it have to be local, or can it
be on a network?
Thanks very much in advance for any information
that you might provide. Bye,
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nextstep ----> HP JetDirect via lpd.
Date: 13 Sep 1994 17:43:07 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <354obb$re@rosie.next.com>
References: <353hkp$c2s@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <353hkp$c2s@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi
Ohzawa) writes:
> I tried JetDirect lpd printing with HP DeskJet 1200C/PS. It works,
> but with the lpd interface of JetDirect, you can't turn off the burst
> page that has just 3 or 4 text lines indicating print job info.
>
[excellent instructions deleted]
This is well-documented in back issue of NeXT in Focus magazine.
NOTE that this only works with newer JetDirect cards (ie JetDirect+ or
whatever they're calling them now). The older JetDirect cards did not
support the lpd protocol.
Another option is the Emulex NetJet card - I've had really good results with
it.
Disclaimer: no product advocacy intended by me or NeXT - just adding
datapoints.
- Mark
--
Mark Dadgar | If we had thought something this big was
Network/Systems Admin. | going to happen to us, do you think we would
NeXT Computer, Inc. | have called ourselves TOAD THE WET SPROCKET?!
Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM | - Toad the Wet Sprocket
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From: mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u)
Subject: More info on #9 GXE?
Message-ID: <Cw2xpC.C3q@info.uucp>
Sender: news@info.uucp (news management)
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:53:35 GMT
From what I've heard, a number nine GXE gfx card is the way to go when
I make the move to NS, and I'd like a bit more info on this creature.
I really don't know anything specific about Intel boxes, I've been an
Amiga owner for the last 4 years or so...
First: is "#9 GXE" a standard, or a specific product from a specific
manufacturer?
Second: I've seen references to #9 GXEL16 and GXE64 cards... Is the
number following the "GXE" the bitwidth of the bus the card is
designed for?
Third: Does this card support an 8 bits/pixel palette in 8 bit mode?
I know that a lot of boards drop down to 15 or 16 bit colour resolution
in 8 bit colour mapped modes...
--
Phil Martin. mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca
GCS/S -d+ !p c++ u+ e+(*) m--- s-/++ n++ h-- f+ w+ t r- y?(**)
"This old world keeps spinnin' round,
It's a wonder tall trees ain't layin' down."
From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with Sound Cards (white) -- DESPERATE
Date: 13 Sep 1994 18:06:39 GMT
Organization: Telecom Paris, FRANCE
Sender: philipp@terry.res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <354png$7em@enst.enst.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: Adaptec, BusLogic, ProAudio, Spectrum, driver
I'm writing out of frustration related to a unending problem I have
had with a series of different configurations in the quest of a
sound card that works correctly. I started out with a Pro Audio
Basic-16 (the same card as a Pro Audio Spectrum 16, minus the
SCSI interface [which isn't supported under NS 3.2 anyway]), an
Adaptec 1542CF disk controller, and a VL-bus motherboard.
Whenever I play sounds of high sampling rates (22,050Hz or
higher) or long duration (longer than half a second say), I
get a lot of break-up in the sound -- pauses, repeats, etc.
An early NeXTanswers bulletin warned that the Adaptec was known
to perturb the operation on the Spectrum-16 sound card. So,
just a week ago, when NeXT announced that the higher performance
BusLogic BT-445C VESA controller driver was released, I ran out
(literally) and bought one.
Well, after miscellaneous configuration problems (and much
tweaking of the driver) the machine boots (but only from a
Floppy -- can you believe it?). But I still have the problems
with the sound card "breaking up" when I play continuous audio,
even at 22,050 Hz.
So, I think that it may be the sound card that is bogus (doesn't
even have a FIFO on the DMA -- gah!), and not the disk controller.
I was wondering if anyone else could confirm this, or has
found a solution to this problem.
I'm using VESA bus-master transfers on the disk controller (which
should be *much* faster than ISA DMA), so I don't understand why
the sound card would miss its interrupts or have a DMA underrun.
Help!
-Philip
From: harrap@geol.queensu.ca (Rob Harrap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: IBM 1 Gig 1994 drive... Help...
Date: 13 Sep 1994 18:35:48 GMT
Organization: Queens University, Dept. of Geological Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <354re4$n5u@knot.queensu.ca>
Hi:
I've got a new 1.05 gig IBM scsi drive (FRU PN 92FO428) that I've tried to put in my cube. It doens't do anything at all at first, and then when I try to build it I get an error on the console and the disk doesn't appear in the window.
Anyone have any experience with these things?
Please respond directly and I'll summarize....
Rob Harrap
harrap@geol.queensu.ca
thx...
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: W: Driver for ATI Grafik Pro Turbo 2MB
Date: 13 Sep 1994 14:43:14 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <354rs2$132@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <Cw0y1r.qK@vergil.ping.de>
Lars-Ulrich Kahl (lars@vergil.ping.de) wrote:
: Is there one,
: or can i use the 64 bit card with another driver until the driver comes
: out?
: I hate seeing 640 x 480!!!!
Get the Graphics Pro Turbo driver from Talus (info@talus.com).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps)
Subject: where is the FAQ for NeXT hardware?
Message-ID: <1994Sep13.185048.4516@cs.sfu.ca>
Organization: Faculty of Applied Science, Simon Fraser University
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 18:50:48 GMT
subject line says it all!
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,
Subject: Nokia 445X - are you satisfied with it?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 14 Sep 1994 02:19:15 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <355mj3$q3b@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Keywords: 21" Monitor
I have seen the Byte Review of this 21" monitor (and I know about the 17"
monitor review in PC Mag). In contrast to the Nanao, it can sync at VGA
rate. Both display 1600*1280 at 80(!) Hz.
I am just curious if anyone is using this monitor. How does it compare to
other popular 21" monitors? Is the picture sharp? Is it good at 1600*1280
>72Hz (or 1280*1024 >72Hz)? Happy/Unhappy?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
PS: Computability advertises it in PC Mag for about $2,500.
From: peter@bert.psyc.upei.ca (Beaker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on Packard Bell
Date: 14 Sep 1994 02:05:35 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <355lpf$51i@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
I'm looking at getting a Pentium system to add to our collection of Black
hardware. The easiest machines for us to purchase and have serviced are
Packard Bells. Is anyone running NS on a Packard Bell system? What
configuration are you using?
--
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Prince Edward Island \ O++ P+ L+>++ 3 N++ K++ W++/--- M- V-\ po-- Y+ t+ 5-
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From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Subject: Re: PCI SCSI-2 Controller DPT 2024/90 with Cache up to 64MB
Message-ID: <1994Sep14.052728.13128@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 05:27:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO
References: <Cvr8n0.6H@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> <Cvtz2C.6n@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> <bchin.779205513@news.andi.org>
One of their tech support people told me that the DPT SCSI would work with
NEXTSTEP when it shipped.
I have also heard that they are working on a Fast Wide SCSI card. that may
be the second card you mentioned. WIDE SCSI is 16 bit and can handle
14 (or 15) devices.
I would like to tell anyone looking to buy a SCSI device buy DPT!!!
Where I work we used to use Adaptec, and then our use got really
high and we hit the bug in their scatter/gather algorythm and our
server kept freezing. This in addition to other problems let us
to try other SCSI adaptors.
Our experiences with DPT have been exemplory. The card has worked
in every machine we stuck it in (not true for other cards). Their
manual reads like a SCSI spec, explaining things like 8, 16, and 32
bit SCSI and RAID. The card comes with drivers and manual entries
for DOS, OS/2, SCO, NEXTSTEP, and more. When I actually had to call
their tch support (for info about the future PCI card) I spoke only
with people and waited a total of less than 5 minutes. All people
I spoke to were intelligent and helpful.
I can not say enough good things about DPT!
-Mont
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DECpc for NS ?
Date: 14 Sep 1994 05:19:15 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <35614j$qtg@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Keywords: DEC, pc, compatible?
Are any DECpc's compatible with NeXTStep? In particular, is
anyone running NS on the DECpc XL590?
This machine seems to offer interesting upgrade options, since
the CPU is on a removable card with an extra socket. Anyone
know if NS will support dual processor machines soon? Or if
DEC has plans to support NS on the alpha chip?
Thanks,
David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: mslade@ix.netcom.com (Michael Slade)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Please Help - Next Dimension not displaying
Date: 14 Sep 1994 07:21:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <356891$c7o@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <354obb$re@rosie.next.com> Mark_Dadgar@NeXT.COM (Mark Dadgar) writes:
>
>In article <353hkp$c2s@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi
>Ohzawa) writes:
>> I tried JetDirect lpd printing with HP DeskJet 1200C/PS. It works,
>> but with the lpd interface of JetDirect, you can't turn off the burst
>> page that has just 3 or 4 text lines indicating print job info.
>>
>[excellent instructions deleted]
>
>This is well-documented in back issue of NeXT in Focus magazine.
>
>NOTE that this only works with newer JetDirect cards (ie JetDirect+ or
>whatever they're calling them now). The older JetDirect cards did not
Dear NextFolks,
Our old reliable Next Dimension seems to be sulking after
not seeing any action for a while. When we turn it on,
the hard drive whirs and makes booting sounds - including
responding to typing 'exit' after the boot pauses (but that's
another problem.) The screen has a raster but never shows any
text or graphics. It seems to me that there is something that
tells the machine to direct the DisplayPostScript to the
color board and it seems to have forgotten.
I bet that a mono display would show what's going on but I don't
have one.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
--
Michael Slade, Datavision Technologies, mslade@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: IBM 1 Gig 1994 drive... Help...
Message-ID: <1994Sep14.091657.8186@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <354re4$n5u@knot.queensu.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:16:57 GMT
In article <354re4$n5u@knot.queensu.ca> harrap@geol.queensu.ca (Rob
Harrap) writes:
> Hi:
>
> I've got a new 1.05 gig IBM scsi drive (FRU PN 92FO428) that I've tried
to put in my cube. It doens't do anything at all at first, and then when I
try to build it I get an error on the console and the disk doesn't appear
in the window.
>
> Anyone have any experience with these things?
>
> Please respond directly and I'll summarize....
>
> Rob Harrap
> harrap@geol.queensu.ca
>
>
> thx...
I would be easier if you could make an excerpt of the errors from the
console window.
Cheers
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <jkv@sware.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 08:20:41 -0400
From: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com>
Sender: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@sware.com>
Message-ID: <9409141220.AA14199@woof.sware.com>
Subject: would like some assistance
I have a NeXTStation running NS 3.0. I would like to hook up a
video source such as a CamCorder or a VCR and display the images
within a window. Control of the device with the mouse and/or
keyboard is required and the ability to perform editing on the
image would be desirable. What h/w and/or s/w would be required to
perform this task?
please reply to jkv@sware.com
thanks in advance,
Joe Vossen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: SCSI card performance
Message-ID: <1994Sep14.064428.6227@cs.ucla.edu>
Keywords: modem hotel
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
References: <mvJTkKA8U0iB070yn@tucana.noao.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 06:44:28 GMT
In article <34kt2c$8i0@newstand.syr.edu> yetseng@rodan.syr.edu (yc) writes:
>
> Q-Logic Fast!SCSI PCMCIA Host Adapter
>
> SCSI Standard ANSI X3T9.2 SCSI-2
> SCSI Data 5MB/second asynchronous
> Transfer Rate 5MB/second synchronous
> Host Data Transfer Rate 16-bit PIO data transfers > 3MB/second
> Transfer Counter 24-bit
> RAM 256 bytes of on-chip static RAM
> FIFO 128 bytes PIO data FIFO
This brings up a question I have while trying to decide whether its possible
to use a laptop with a PCMCIA SCSI card for serious Unix development. How
does the performance of PCMCIA SCSI-2 cards such as this one compare to the
best (PCI?) SCSI-2 for desktops? Does somebody have comparable numbers for
good desktop SCSI cards? And how do those numbers compare to proper
workstation SCSI performance, such as on the HP 712s (numbers?), which is
rumored to be significantly better than anything available in the PC world?
And while we're at it, does anybody have performance numbers for other PCMCIA
SCSI-2 cards?
And what *is* the most important performance number for standard
Unix/Linux/NeXTStep swapping (e.g. for compiles)?
Thanks much for any responses. After large amounts of reading, I haven't
seen any of this really compared or described clearly anywhere, despite a
dizzying array of options, and yet it's obviously very important for serious
development work. I'll compile and summarize back to the net.
- Trent Lange
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: Do not buy a Dell XPS P90 before reading this
Message-ID: <1994Sep14.142224.27689@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <ROBERT.94Sep11213059@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:22:24 GMT
In article <ROBERT.94Sep11213059@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
(Robert Nicholson) writes:
> <jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu> writes:
>
> >So far Dell has replaced by motherboard twice, power supply once, and
> >RAM once and still this machine will not stay for more than 2 or 3 days.
> >Someone suggested it could be the serial drivers, I use the serial port
> >alot, but it hung up within a few hours of rebooting and I never used
> >the serial driver or even turned my modem on.
>
> Just curious. Is this the same model that Darcy bought? :-)
I wonder if my personal curse is spreading... now whole series of machines
will crash once I touch a single one of them.
- db
--
-- I want decide who lives and who dies -- Crow T.R. -- Does my head look like
an amusing icecube? -- Kryten -- Some might say I'm a pretty shallow guy, but
a shallow guy with a great ass! -- Cat -- It's not how well you sing, it's how
loud that counts -- Lewis -- You are what you do when it counts -- the Masao -
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: SCSI card performance
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 12:00:34 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0iRlsWi00iV143bbJ1@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Sep14.064428.6227@cs.ucla.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 14-Sep-94 SCSI card
performance by Trent Lange@lanai.cs.ucl
> And what *is* the most important performance number for standard
> Unix/Linux/NeXTStep swapping (e.g. for compiles)?
The amount of main memory in your computer (so you don't have to swap as
much). Increasing your RAM to 32+ MB will have a very significant
improvement on compilation & especially linking.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: jliu@cco.caltech.edu (Jiangqiang Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: install both NeXTSTEP and HPUX on HP 725/50?
Date: 14 Sep 1994 17:32:18 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <357c32$7f@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Keywords: NeXTSTEP, HP 725/50
There is a HP 725/50 in our lab, I want install install NeXTSTEP on it. But I
still want to keep the HP-UX 9.0 for our simulation software. Is there anyone
out there has done this before? Is there any problem generated by this kind of
configuration?
Jianqiang Liu
jliu@touch.caltech.edu
From: bnh@active (Brian Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP-PA keyboard options
Date: 14 Sep 1994 17:01:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <357a92$fer@pubxfer2.news.psi.net>
References: <PJS.94Sep12140504@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
Paul J. Sanchez (pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote:
: Are PC-style keyboards the "preferred" choice for Geckos, or the Unix
: keyboard? Are both supported under NS?
Non-authoritative answer:
My Series 700 price list *only* has localization kits with "PC-101
keyboard" for the 712 (A4030A) and "PC-style keyboard" (A2205B) for
the 7x5, no other keyboard types are listed.
If you know another option (Unix kbd), could you post its HP part #?
Brian Hess
Active Ingredients, Inc.
bnh@active.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Anyone used Zeos or Micron Machines
Message-ID: <1994Sep14.133723.729@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:37:23 GMT
If you have had any experience with either of these machines, with a 486
or Pentium in an VLB or EISA/PCI configuration, please let me know.
Thanks
Wes
--
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The Weston Group |
8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: philipp@terry.res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Cards (white) -- SOLVED?
Date: 14 Sep 1994 18:30:31 GMT
Organization: Telecom Paris, FRANCE
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <357fg7$664@enst.enst.fr>
References: <354png$7em@enst.enst.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: Adaptec, BusLogic, ProAudio, Spectrum, driver
Well, I get several answers fairly quickly from the network. One
person proposed that my VESA motherboard was flakey. That may
well be, but I don't think that was the problem, since it works
now anyway.
Another person told me that there was a patch that needed to be
applied to the Adaptec driver in AHAThread.m to make it work. This
is also fairly possibly, and if anyone knows what this patch is,
I'm still interested in seeing it. After a system crash he lost
the sources, however. Anyone care to post the patch if they have
it tucked away somewhere?
*But* the best clue I got was from Juergen Moellenhoff who pointed
out that line 233 of the ProAudioSpectrum.m file should divide
the transfer count by two when the transfer mode is IO_16BitWordCount
and *not* IO_16BitByteCount. So that fixed that.
Can anyone at NeXT confirm this bug?
Thanks to everyone that responded.
-Philip
From: perkins@sidney.cps.msu.edu (Stephen Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: The Cannon ObjectStation
Date: 14 Sep 1994 18:05:05 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <357e0h$qda@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Howdy,
I received information on the Cannon ObjectStation.
Cannon says it was designed from the ground up to run
NeXTStep. Apparently they have made some custom HW mods
that help increase performance. They only offer two
models, the user and developer. However, they seem like
pretty comprehensive systems. Has anybody seen or used
one of these? If so (or even if not) I'm interested in your
opinions of the machine.
For those who are interested, they have a factsline (a fax
back service). You may want to give it a call (have your fax
number handy) and order documents 8001, 8002, 8006.
Their number is:
1-800-526-4345 (factsLine)
1-800-349-6007 (Customer Service Line)
- Steve
--
====================================================================
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Department of Computer Science | perkins@cps.msu.edu
Michigan State University |
"There's more ways to skin a cat than putting its head in a
boot jack and pulling on its tail."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler)
Subject: Re: BT445C & BusLogicFamily-driver
Message-ID: <rbzCw4w69.4wL@netcom.com>
Keywords: BT445C
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <353v31$jg@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 19:15:45 GMT
arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hårseth) writes:
>Has anyone tested the BusLogic 445C SCSI-card with the "BusLogicFamily" driver
>(what version of BT445C) ?
>Arne (arneha@ifi.uio.no)
What is the difference between the 445S and the 445C SCSI cards from
BusLogic?
<Rodger>
======================================================
Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com
1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884
Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636
======================================================
--
<Rodger>
======================================================
Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com
1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884
Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636
======================================================
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: install both NeXTSTEP and HPUX on HP 725/50?
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 16:35:54 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YiRpueq00iV0Q9O4Io@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <357c32$7f@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 14-Sep-94 install both
NeXTSTEP and H.. by Jiangqiang Liu@cco.calte
> There is a HP 725/50 in our lab, I want install install NeXTSTEP on
it. But I > still want to keep the HP-UX 9.0 for our simulation
software. Is there anyone
> out there has done this before?
Yes, I'm dual-booting HP/UX 9.01 & NEXTSTEP 3.2 with an HP 715/50.
> Is there any problem generated by this kind of configuration?
You have to watch out a little, since neither OS understands the disk
layout of the other OS. The Workspace under NEXTSTEP brings up a 'hard
disk unreadable; initialize?" panel when you first log in. This is
_not_ a feature; NEXTSTEP should at least understand enough to leave an
HP/UX alone on the HP....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: oregon@chaos.ats.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Boot/installation with AIC6X60: Help needed
Date: 14 Sep 1994 21:32:36 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Message-ID: <357q5k$4rs@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <viggo.779459076@njord.diku.dk>
Keywords: boot
In article <viggo.779459076@njord.diku.dk> viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard)
writes:
> I have finally put together Intel hardware to run NS, but the installation
> fails. My setup is this:
> .
> .
> .
>
> Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 20, trying /etc/init
> Load of /etc/init failed, errno 20
>
> And then it dies. (It keeps the disk light on, on the case but not on the
drive
> itself.) WHY ? What is wrong ? What is errno 20 ?
>
> Is it because synchronous mode is not supported by the CD-ROM ? If the guy
who
> wrote the driver, or anybody who knows how the driver works, reads this
please
> email.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> --Allan
> --viggo@diku.dk
I am experiencing the same installation problem in failure to load
/etc/mach_init and/etc/init. While my hardware is different, it is the same
basic setup, an internal hard disk and external CD. My SCSI board is the DPT
PM2021 ISA.
At the appropriate step during boot, I load the driver (as downloaded from
NeXT) and continue on in the load process until the system hangs. Is this a
general problem due to hardware? I've searched NextAnwsers but there is
nothing that addresses this problem, and to the best of my knowledge,
conflicting interrupts, bad memory, ...., have been eliminated as the source.
----------------------------------------------
- Wayne Gibson -
- Oregon State University -
- Internet email : oregon@chaos.ats.orst.edu -
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: JFJG@acad1.alaska.edu (GOES JIM _)
Subject: CD-ROM recommendations for black workstation
Message-ID: <Cw4v6C.30t@raven.alaska.edu>
Sender: news@raven.alaska.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Alaska Southeast
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 18:54:10 GMT
I'm looking for a CD-ROM drive to attach to a black 25mhz workstation.
Will any SCSI CD-ROM work or do I need an original black drive? Will double
or triple speed drives work? Ist the interface the same as for PC CD-ROM
drives? Any advice appreciated.
Please respond by direct mail. Thanks in advance.
Jim Goes
JFJG@acad1.alaska.edu
From: lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu (Peter S. Lakanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: long printer cord???
Date: 14 Sep 1994 19:40:04 GMT
Organization: Florida State University
Message-ID: <357jik$65n@mailer.fsu.edu>
I need a 50 foot (15 meter) cable for my NeXT B&W Printer.
Does this beast exist? If so where?
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lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ARE THERE ANY OTHER DJ's OR MUSIC INDUSTRY PEOPLE
(904) 877-0305 | OUT HERE? PLEASE CONTACT ME. THANX.-------------
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From: mslade@ix.netcom.com (Michael Slade)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Repost - Please Help - Next Dimension not displaying
Date: 14 Sep 1994 22:48:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <357uk0$4c6@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Dear NextFolks,
I'm reposting this since I screwed up the first time due to a lack
of experience with this editor...
Our old reliable Next Dimension seems to be sulking after
not seeing any action for a while. When we turn it on,
the hard drive whirs and makes booting sounds - including
responding to typing 'exit' after the boot pauses (but that's
another problem.) The screen has a raster but never shows any
text or graphics. It seems to me that there is something that
tells the machine to direct the DisplayPostScript to the
color board and it seems to have forgotten.
I bet that a mono display would show what's going on but I don't
have one.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
--
Michael Slade, Datavision Technologies, mslade@ix.netcom.com
From: gmecchia@cc.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: any info on eCesys machines?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 01:04:52 GMT
Organization: The Colorado College, Colorado Springs, CO
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3586jk$d9j@lace.Colorado.EDU>
Hi,
if there is anyone who has had experience with eCesys intel-based machines,
I would greatly appreciate if you could email me your impression on
the machines performance, ease of use, problems etc etc.
thanks
Giuseppina Mecchia
gmecchia@cc.colorado.edu
From: hodges@huckleberry.sfsu.edu (Jack &)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Any drive recommendations for NS 3.x on Black in 2.1 Mb range?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 00:59:20 GMT
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <358698$2in@news.csus.edu>
We are looking to order a few drives and are wondering if
anyone has recommendations, pro or con, for particular
vendors. We are looking for drives in the 2 gig range and
will be mounting them on black hardware running NS 3.x.
Thanks for any help.
--------------------------------------------------
Jack Hodges
Assistant Professor of Computer Science
San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: David Downie <dcdownie@watarts.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Modem Recommendations
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9409142103.A16962-0100000@watarts.uwaterloo.ca>
Originator: dcdownie@watarts.uwaterloo.ca
Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 01:25:03 GMT
I'm about to purchase a 14.4Kbps V.32bis modem :^) and am looking for
suggestions. After reading the FAQ, I realize that not just any
modem/cable will work (in fact, is there anyone who makes the cables?).
Since I can use my Abaton 24/96 Fax/Modem for faxes, fax capability is
not required.
Thanks in advance!
==============================================================
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Assistant Professor of Finance University of Waterloo
dcdownie@watarts.uwaterloo.ca 519-888-4567 ext. 5703
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Problems with Sound Cards (white) -- DESPERATE
Message-ID: <Cw4on5.5Cs@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <354png$7em@enst.enst.fr>
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 16:33:05 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <354png$7em@enst.enst.fr> you wrote:
>
> I'm writing out of frustration related to a unending problem I have
> had with a series of different configurations in the quest of a
> sound card that works correctly. I started out with a Pro Audio
> Basic-16 (the same card as a Pro Audio Spectrum 16, minus the
> SCSI interface [which isn't supported under NS 3.2 anyway]), an
> Adaptec 1542CF disk controller, and a VL-bus motherboard.
>
> Whenever I play sounds of high sampling rates (22,050Hz or
> higher) or long duration (longer than half a second say), I
> get a lot of break-up in the sound -- pauses, repeats, etc.
This is a patch for the PAS16 driver which worked for me (ISA/PCI Board)
and some friends (iSA/PCI and ISA/VL). For some it did _not_ work but
crash the machine. So be careful. No warranty as usual.
In
/NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ProAudioSpectrum/ProAudioSpectrum_reloc.
tproj/ProAudioSpectrum.m
change the region about line 233 to look like this:
/*
* Use the Sample Buffer Count register to set the number of bytes in
the
* DMA buffer division. This register holds a 16-bit value. When using
a
* 16-bit DMA channel, the Sample Buffer Count must be divided by two.
*/
(void)[self getDMATransferWidth: &transferWidth forChannel:
localChannel];
// Bug!!!!! IO_16BitWordCount = IO_16BitByteCount
if (transferWidth == IO_16BitWordCount)
bufferSize /= 2;
Compile, install the driver and mail me the results.
Good luck!
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: brien@ix.netcom.com (Brien Hutzler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Personal Curse???
Date: 15 Sep 1994 01:43:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3588rk$90c@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <1994Sep14.142224.27689@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes:
>
>In article <ROBERT.94Sep11213059@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk
>(Robert Nicholson) writes:
>> <jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu> writes:
>>
>> >So far Dell has replaced by motherboard twice, power supply once, and
>> >RAM once and still this machine will not stay for more than 2 or 3 days.
>> >Someone suggested it could be the serial drivers, I use the serial port
>> >alot, but it hung up within a few hours of rebooting and I never used
>> >the serial driver or even turned my modem on.
>>
>> Just curious. Is this the same model that Darcy bought? :-)
>
>I wonder if my personal curse is spreading... now whole series of machines
>will crash once I touch a single one of them.
>
>- db
If you throw peanuts, you will catch monkeys!!!
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DECpc XL560 purchase, happy customer
Date: 15 Sep 1994 03:50:28 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <358ga4$b42@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <35614j$qtg@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes:
> Are any DECpc's compatible with NeXTStep? In particular, is
> anyone running NS on the DECpc XL590?
I've always intended to write something up on the machine I bought
for running NeXTSTEP/Intel, simply because so few people write up
their successful experiences. Reminder: Your Mileage May Vary.
Last August (ie, in 1993) I announced to my NeXT users group that
I was planning on getting a system for running NS/Intel (even though
I have my own NeXTstations), and that I'd probably have it "early
in September, or maybe not until the end of the month if things
get busy". I greatly underestimated the amount of work that was
required to sort out the world of Intel hardware! I was also a lot
busier with work-related stuff than I expected.
By May of 1994, I finally bought a machine. I went with a DECpc
XL560, which I bought from Alpine MicroAge Systems. This is a
reseller that actually works with NeXTSTEP on Intel, and after
talking with various resellers I decided I really wanted to buy
from someone who knew what NeXTSTEP was. I had other resellers
(those not really aware of NeXTSTEP) that were trying to save me
money by going with motherboards that held a *maximum* of 32meg,
for instance. Their heart was in the right place, but they just
didn't understand what it was that I wanted to buy.
There were other NeXTSTEP-knowledgable resellers out there that
I considered going with, I just happened to end up with Alpine.
What I bought was the DECpc XL560, with a MiroCrystal 32S graphics
card, and IBM 17P monitor, 32meg of RAM, 1 gig of disk, the DEC
internal CD-ROM drive (which is really a Toshiba drive), the Talus
driver for the onboard PCI SCSI chip, a pro-audio spectrum sound
card, and the Intel EtherExpress ethernet card. I bought this back
in May or so.
The machine arrived with NeXTSTEP already installed (one advantage
of buying from a company who really works with NeXTSTEP). There
were a few minor installation mixups, but nothing that took long
for me to straighten out. Someone who had never installed NeXTSTEP
before might have been a bit more confused about those minor mixups,
but all of them were pretty minor.
My system has been very stable. It has been up and running for
weeks at a time, and almost all the downtime has been for things
unrelated to NeXTSTEP problems (such as power-outages...). I
have done some programming on it, and used it fairly constantly.
It's not getting *heavy* use (as my main machine is still a
NeXTstation), but it is getting constant use. My main machine
*is* still a NeXTstation simply because I need AFS for a lot of
my work, and there is no official AFS release for NS/Intel.
(in this context, AFS is a distributed file system, and not
the company that makes WriteUp and PasteUp. WriteUp and PasteUp
are working fine on my NS/Intel machine!!)
Hardware-wise I'm pretty happy. My DECpc seems to be very much
like running my color NeXTstation. My DECpc XL560 has more memory,
more disk space, 32-bit color (as an option), and in many ways is
as good or better than the color NeXTstation. The one area where
it is very noticably worse is in sound support. The ProAudio
Spectrum card isn't awful, but it certainly is not as good as the
sound support in the NeXTstation. Basically I'm satisfied with
the sound, but I am certainly keeping an eye out for better sound
card alternatives.
One problem that I do run into is one that other people probably
would not run into. One of the programs I am writing does SCSI
commands, and if I do invalid SCSI commands then I can lock up the
system entirely. Now, in these cases I am doing a SCSI command
which really is illegal for the device I'm sending it too, but the
reaction to that should be an error return and not the system
locking up. People who do not write their own SCSI programs, or
people who write SCSI programs but don't send the wrong SCSI
commands, would not be nailed by this problem, of course.
That was a few months ago, of course, and now the question is
about DECpc XL590's (a 90Mhz Pentium). I have no experience
with that configuration, of course, but I'm happy with the one
I bought. I'm sure that another six months down the line no
one will care about "mere" 90Mhz Pentiums, and will be asking
about some other chip. And so it goes, and so it goes.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nokia 445X - are you satisfied with it?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:36:06 GMT
Organization: schiele computertechnik, 76199 Karlsruhe
Message-ID: <358q0m$30g@ts2.schiele-ct.de>
References: <355mj3$q3b@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <355mj3$q3b@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
>
> I have seen the Byte Review of this 21" monitor (and I know about the 17"
> monitor review in PC Mag). In contrast to the Nanao, it can sync at VGA
> rate. Both display 1600*1280 at 80(!) Hz.
>
> I am just curious if anyone is using this monitor. How does it compare to
> other popular 21" monitors? Is the picture sharp? Is it good at 1600*1280
> >72Hz (or 1280*1024 >72Hz)? Happy/Unhappy?
>
> Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
> Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
> AGSM at UCLA
>
> PS: Computability advertises it in PC Mag for about $2,500.
I am using the 447B (NeXT) as well as the 445X (Gecko).
The 445X has a dot pitch of 0.25 (flatscreen) and therefore *can* show
1600x1200 pixels (Trinitron Monitors of any size can't!!!).
The contrast is not as high as with Trinitron tubes which is quite comfortable
if you are working the whole day on it. We have tested it with the ELSA WINNER
2000PCI-H and it showed excellent results, hardly any convergence and
distortion. For this resolution actually the only choice.
Compared to Nanao (overestimated!!) both monitors showed by far the better
picture than their counterparts (I have tested all of them extensively!). I can
only highly recommend them.
--
Jochen Richter Phone: +49-721-696922
Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax: +49-721-696988
D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ad244@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Orrin C. Kerr)
Subject: Problem w/ reboots on a dual partitioned white box
Message-ID: <Cw6C8F.I3M@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (Usenet News Admin)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:00:15 GMT
I have a Dell 466/L box that has the hard drive partitioned into
DOS and NeXT. If I go into DOS, I generally have a problem
rebooting into NeXT. In verbose boot, I get the following:
.
.
.
Registering Display0
Cn0: netmask set to 0.0.0.0
rhdr1 rstat 08 next 07 len 700
rhdr1 rstat 08 next 07 len 700
rhdr1 rstat 08 next 07 len 700
rhdr1 rstat 08 next 07 len 700
rhdr1 rstat 08 next 07 len 700
rhdr1 rstat 08 next 07 len 700
.
.
. and so on until I press the reset button at which point about 3 or 4
message lines appear for the space of n nanoseconds and it reboots.
Naturally the next boot up discovers INCORRECT FILE BLOCK and goes through
a rebuild and then it reboots (again) and loads OK.
(Sigh!) This is real tedious. If anyone has any ideas, I'd be real
grateful. TIA.
--
Orrin C. Kerr
ad244@freenet.carleton.ca
All opinions expressed are my own and not the responsibility of
my innocent employer (who shall remain nameless)(but it's gummint).
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problem with Slab serial port
Date: 15 Sep 1994 10:10:24 -0400
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <359kkg$sp8@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
Something just happened to by Slab's serial port A. It no longer
comunicates correctly with my modem. If I open the device, RTS
is asserted but DTR isn't. This just happened, I was logged into
a remote system, I reset the modem due to a noisy line, then it
stopped working. Every thing is OK if I use port B. Is there
a way to reset the serial ports ( I've already rebooted ) or does
this sound like a fried port?
Chris
From: albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP interface to VME bus
Date: 15 Sep 1994 18:50:19 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <359qfr$e67@proffa.cc.tut.fi>
This is a forwarded message from: Juha Tuominen
Is there a VME bus controller board available for 486 that is supported
by NeXTSTEP? There are 3-5 CPU boards on the bus processing incoming data
(I don't know yet, what kind of boards they'll be). The main idea is
to build a GUI to control the processing. There's no need to transfer
the processed data to the machine running the GUI, so I guess it would be
possible to use a laptop PC running NeXTSTEP to control the VME bus via
serial cable. Anyone out there familiar with NeXTSTEP and VME bus?
All comments regarding laptops running NSi are welcome, too.
-Juha
From: nazgul@utopia.com (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need help with Digital Ears
Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:08:41 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <359ria$f26@sundog.tiac.net>
Summary: Need help with data controller object for Digital Ears
I have a friend who is attempting to use (with some time urgency)
Digital Ears on an black NeXT box. He's having trouble using
the data controller object and would greatly appreciate it if
someone could help him out asap, the DE people apparently being
out of town for a few days.
Please reply to him, at tony@wildfire.com. Many thanks.
From: kennedy@b0ru01.fnal.gov (Robert Daniel Kennedy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: (Black H/W) dim monitor rescue
Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:44:47 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <359tlv$ren@fnnews.fnal.gov>
Hello,
Sometime back, I saw posted a set of instructions for resetting the
brightness on a dimming monitor (quite dim now at highest setting). Could
someone please send me a copy of these instructions? I have been unable to
find them myself.
HARDWARE: Nextstation 25 MHz monochrome
Thanks,
Rob Kennedy
Rutgers/FNAL/CDF
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: o6o motherboard upgrades by the end of the year !?!
Date: 15 Sep 1994 17:46:27 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35a19j$dng@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: We might still be able to leave those Pentium boxes in the dust after all....
Path: news.cerf.net!news
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: o6o motherboard upgrades by the end of the year !?!
Date: 15 Sep 1994 17:34:24 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Lines: 24
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35a0j0$dm0@news.cerf.net>
Reply-To: murshid@unit.edu
OWNERS OF BLACK HARDWARE:
o6o motherboard upgrades by the end of the year !?!
I sent email on o60 accelerators to matt@drefla.walkingdog.com(Matt
Brandt) because he had posted an article about fitting on and reselling
060 accelerators for black 040 hardware. This is his response:
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 22:51:22 EDT
From: Matt Brandt <ucsd!unit!ucsd!drefla.walkingdog.com!matt>
To: unit!unit.edu!murshid
Subject: Re: 60060 accelerator for a color station
Reply-To: ucsd!unit!ucsd!drefla.walkingdog.com!matt
yes, we are still working on the 060 project. Things haven't progressed
very rapidly for a variety of reasons (not the least of which is parts
availability) but we still plan to do it. Figure on the end of the year as
a good date...
matt
*********************************************************
I certainly would be interested in purchasing 3 of these.
murshid
From: oregon@chaos.ats.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Boot/installation with AIC6X60: Help needed
Date: 15 Sep 1994 18:33:14 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Message-ID: <35a41a$n3v@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <357q5k$4rs@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Keywords: boot
In article <357q5k$4rs@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> oregon@chaos.ats.orst.edu writes:
> In article <viggo.779459076@njord.diku.dk> viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim
Schougaard)
> writes:
> > I have finally put together Intel hardware to run NS, but the installation
> > fails. My setup is this:
> > .
> > .
> > .
> >
> > Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 20, trying /etc/init
> > Load of /etc/init failed, errno 20
> >
> > And then it dies. (It keeps the disk light on, on the case but not on the
> drive
> > itself.) WHY ? What is wrong ? What is errno 20 ?
> >
> > Is it because synchronous mode is not supported by the CD-ROM ? If the guy
> who
> > wrote the driver, or anybody who knows how the driver works, reads this
> please
> > email.
> >
> > Any help is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > --Allan
> > --viggo@diku.dk
>
>
> I am experiencing the same installation problem in failure to load
> /etc/mach_init and/etc/init. While my hardware is different, it is the same
> basic setup, an internal hard disk and external CD. My SCSI board is the DPT
> PM2021 ISA.
>
> At the appropriate step during boot, I load the driver (as downloaded from
> NeXT) and continue on in the load process until the system hangs. Is this a
> general problem due to hardware? I've searched NextAnwsers but there is
> nothing that addresses this problem, and to the best of my knowledge,
> conflicting interrupts, bad memory, ...., have been eliminated as the source.
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> - Wayne Gibson -
> - Oregon State University -
> - Internet email : oregon@chaos.ats.orst.edu -
> ----------------------------------------------
As a follow up, I changed CD drives to one used for our SUN's (Sony drive).
Sometimes the SCSI bus has to "retry" to read the CD, but eventually it does
and gets past the load of /etc/mach_init. Unfortunately, the system hangs (or
the keyboard locks) when the user is prompted to enter 1 for complete install
of the OS or 2 to quit. As suggested in NextAnswers #1361, I boot with
"Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B DPT2012 IDE Floppy"
but that doesn't correct the locked keyboard. Anyone have ideas or seen this
before?
----------------------------------------------
- Wayne Gibson -
- Oregon State University -
- Internet email : oregon@chaos.ats.orst.edu -
----------------------------------------------
From: zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Seek Recommendation for P5/90 System
Date: 15 Sep 1994 14:41:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <35a4ft$53r@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
References: <CEDMAN.94Sep9085419@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Sep9085419@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
Seagate barracuda 2.1 GByte drive with Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI
controller (supported only since NS 3.3 pr2). $1800
-----
Where can I obtain above disk configuration and drivers?
I recently ordered a DELL XPS90 w/GXEPRO.
--rich
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:15:03 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358op7$3lp@news.onramp.net>
References: <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
In article <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt) writes:
>
> What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for
> a slab? I would prefer something in the range
> 300-500MB. (Also have 1GB external drive).
The Quantum ProDrive LPS 540s is a very good replacement for the slab.
Our price is $315.00.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:16:41 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358os9$3lu@news.onramp.net>
References: <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
In article <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt) writes:
>
> What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for
> a slab? I would prefer something in the range
> 300-500MB. (Also have 1GB external drive).
The Quantum ProDrive LPS 540s is a very good replacement for the slab.
Our price is $315.00. This drive runs about a .8 on the DrivePerformance
benchmark and is a drop in replacement drive for the slab.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:17:01 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358ost$3lv@news.onramp.net>
References: <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
In article <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt) writes:
>
> What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for
> a slab? I would prefer something in the range
> 300-500MB. (Also have 1GB external drive).
The Quantum ProDrive LPS 540s is a very good replacement for the slab.
Our price is $315.00. This drive runs about a .8 on the DrivePerformance
benchmark and is a drop in replacement drive for the slab.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:17:09 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358ot5$3m0@news.onramp.net>
References: <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
In article <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt) writes:
>
> What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for
> a slab? I would prefer something in the range
> 300-500MB. (Also have 1GB external drive).
The Quantum ProDrive LPS 540s is a very good replacement for the slab.
Our price is $315.00. This drive runs about a .8 on the DrivePerformance
benchmark and is a drop in replacement drive for the slab.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:18:00 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358oup$3m1@news.onramp.net>
References: <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
In article <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt) writes:
> What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for a slab?
The Quantum ProDrive LPS 540s is a very good replacement for the slab.
Our price is $315.00. This drive runs about a .8 on the DrivePerformance
benchmark and is a drop in replacement drive for the slab.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: W: Driver for ATI Grafik Pro Turbo 2MB
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:39:29 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358q71$3tp@news.onramp.net>
References: <Cw0y1r.qK@vergil.ping.de>
In article <Cw0y1r.qK@vergil.ping.de> lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich
Kahl) writes:
> Is there one,
> or can i use the 64 bit card with another driver until the driver comes
> out?
> I hate seeing 640 x 480!!!!
The driver for the 64 bit card is available from Talus Corporation.
Contact Dan Kramer - Email Dan@talus.com
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: To power down or not to power down...
Date: 15 Sep 1994 04:45:00 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358jgc$280@news.onramp.net>
References: <34qfni$3h@galaxy.ucr.edu>
In article <34qfni$3h@galaxy.ucr.edu> 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo
Bonzai) writes:
> This is the question. I have heard that since my 040/25
> NeXT cube is a UNIX machine that I'm not supposed to power down like
> a regular PC. Is this true? Will it shorten the life on my hardware
> if I do (or don't) ? Any help anyone could give would be greatly
> appreciated.
Here is an excerpt from Doug Clapp's book "The NeXT Bible"
Leave it on? Turn it off?
Your NeXT computer: should you leave it on or turn it off?
Programmers and assorted UNIX wizards tend to leave their computers on,
always. Most users, though, turn off their computers when they're
finished - at least at day's end.
Which is better?
The NeXT manuals come down hard on neither side of the issue, saying
merely that the cube consumes roughly 100 watts of electricity and that
it's okay to turn it off or leave it constantly on.
On the face of it, the "leave it on" school has logic on their side.
Constant on/off's, they say, are hard on hard drives, and deliver jolts
and shocks to the computer circuitry. It's better to just leave the thing
on, always.
I say this: bosh. Turn it off when you're done.
Here's why. If a single cube consumes 100 watts, then 10,000 cubes
burn 1,000,000 watts. Let's say that NeXT sells 40,000 cubes in 1990.
That's... ah... 4,000,000 watts worth of cubes. Once NeXT hits 1 million
in sales (and they will), it'll be 100,000,000 potential watts of power
being drawn from... where? Smoke-stack spewing power plants? Nuclear
reactors?
It's simple ecology. Power down your cube, save a planet. Everything
helps. If everyone extinguished just one little candle...
While your at it, fire up shell and "nppower off" if your not using the
Laser Writer. Why should it be on, even when "on standby" it only
consumes a dribble of electricity?
- end of excerpt
This is not very informative, but I thought some of you would get a laugh
or two out of it.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 07:26:11 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358suj$4gm@news.onramp.net>
References: <358p2b$3m2@news.onramp.net>
I am *terribly* sorry about the number of posts. My news reader gave an
error with each post and I had no idea they were all posted.
Please forgive me.
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From: buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Has my HP 712 disk gone bad ? SCSI reference ?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 20:32:50 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <35ab1i$srg@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
while installing NS 3.2 on a 712/60, numerous messages like this pop up:
Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: SCSI: id: 0013d1, lbolt: 0, bp: 3152058,
dev: e30, dev_type: (00) Direct Access, ansi: 2, rdf: 2, tag: 7e,
Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: cdb: 28 00 00 07 4b 90 00 00 10 00
Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: opcode: (28) bcount: 2000, addr: 12ae0,
residual: 1,
can anyone tell me what's going on here ?
a more general question, is there a SCSI reference available somewhere ?
I don't know if it would help me, but I'd like to be able to look up
opcode: (28). other error messages have always left me curious, like
what's the front porch (e.g. error during front porch walk or bootblock
exceeds front porch size) ?
thanks
-paul buster
univ of colorado
buster@boulder.Colorado.EDU
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do not buy a Dell XPS P90 before reading this
Date: 15 Sep 1994 05:34:38 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <358mde$364@news.onramp.net>
References: <34u2qg$n60@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <34u2qg$n60@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john
stanhope) writes:
> PS. I have had the window server crashes as reported by users of
> intel's marvelous PCI/ISA premiere motherboard.
Have you updated the BIOS to version .10 (just released). This supposedly
fixes this problem. We have had no window server crashes since this
upgrade.
--
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DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black internal drive replacement?
Date: 15 Sep 1994 06:19:55 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <358p2b$3m2@news.onramp.net>
References: <Cw1Ftq.vD@txnews.amd.com>
In article <Cw1Ftq.vD@txnews.amd.com> charles.herrick@amd.com writes:
> In article <352c7l$pd0@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu>
> silvio@jabberwock.swarthmore.edu (Silvio P Eberhardt) writes:
> >
> > What is a good INTERNAL replacement drive for
> > a slab? I would prefer something in the range
> > 300-500MB. (Also have 1GB external drive).
The Quantum ProDrive LPS 540s is a very good replacement for the slab.
Our price is $315.00. This drive runs about a .8 on the DrivePerformance
benchmark and is a drop in replacement drive for the slab.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sstaton@netcom.com (Steven R. Staton)
Subject: Adaptec 2842 driver available?
Message-ID: <sstatonCw6wqL.tv@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:23:09 GMT
The Adaptec 2842 SCSI card is a VLB adapter. Is there any support for it?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jeremyor@netcom.com (Jeremy Orr)
Subject: NeXTSTEP on HP Netserver LM Series?
Message-ID: <jeremyorCw6yr4.6LC@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 22:06:40 GMT
Has anyone been able to get NeXTSTEP working on this computer? If not
does anyone know if NeXTSTEP will create a driver for the AIC 7770 SCSI
Controller board anytime soon?
Jeremy Orr
From: hwr@pilhuhn.de (Heiko W.Rupp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SMC Elite 16 Ultra problem
Date: 12 Sep 1994 10:22:50 +0200
Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn
Message-ID: <35134q$pek@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org>
References: <34pm2e$j59@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
richarda@coffee.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Achmatowicz) writes:
>This new card doesn't seem to operate correctly with the original
>3.2 driver - it is recognized OK at boot time, but won't accept
>any incoming traffic. It works fine under DOS.
I had so many problems with the ultra in boxes where a plus worked
without any problems that I only can discourage everyone from using
them. Worst of all: in NetBSD0.9 it interfered with the BT545 SCSI
controller so that I got bad data on the disk :-(
--
Heiko W.Rupp Gerwigstr.5 D-76131 Karlsruhe +49 721 9661521
"That is not the USENET tradition, but it's a solidly-entrenched
delusion now." -- brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor)
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT CD ROM Drives with Intel Machines?
Date: 16 Sep 1994 01:17:00 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <35armc$7at@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Will NeXT CD ROM drives work with Intel based machines?
Thanks in advance,
Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Any experience with Technology Advancement Group (TAG Power )machines?
Message-ID: <Cw753r.3Ht@relief.com>
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Organization: Relief Consulting & Development
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 00:23:50 GMT
There's an ad in this week's infoworld from TAG for their two systems, one of
which is a 3.3v P90, SCSI-3 PCI 1GBdisk, toshiba 3401 CDROM, matrox graphics,
Idek 17" monitor, 16MB RAM. There isn't a price in the ad, but I sent off
for more information.
Does anybody have any experience, good or bad, with this machine? The specs
sound pretty good, and they do mention NeXTSTEP in their ad, but I'd never
heard of them before.
Thanks,
John
--
John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com
Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953
4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!!
Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer
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From: nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem Recommendations
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:56:20 -0800
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <nickj-150994215620@port51.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
References: <Pine.3.87.9409142103.A16962-0100000@watarts.uwaterloo.ca>
ZyXEL is the one to get, with fall forward and fall backward features, most
software out in NextLand has the ZyXEL scripts...
Nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mc2@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox)
Subject: Need help with HP 3010 2GB hard Drive
Message-ID: <1994Sep15.215216.11251@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com>
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of AT&T.
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 94 21:52:16 GMT
I picked up a used HP3010 2GB disk and I need to know how to
terminate it internally. I have no doc's to tell me how to
do this.
Thanks,
mike
ps: Is there a HP site that might have this info available for anon ftp?
--
--Mike \ "Better than most,
mc2@sparc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM / not as good as some..." - Mr KFI
From: jgulas@next.acs.uci.edu (John D. Gulas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: portables?
Date: 16 Sep 1994 07:35:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <35bhsm$ihb@news.service.uci.edu>
Hi all,
Can any one recommend a good (or bad) portable known to work with
NeXTStep/intel. I am look for one in the 100Mhz 486 range. I would like
one with a SCSI controller.
Thanks
From: zjr@fsuj10.rz.uni-jena.de (Joachim Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to get work such disc: IBM OEM 0664M1H
Date: 16 Sep 1994 08:30:14 GMT
Organization: Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35bl2m$9md@hpux.rz.uni-jena.de>
Hi,
I have a problem:
I would like to add a (2GB-) SCSI disk to a NeXt Workstation. The disk
is OK.
The disk is recognized by disk utility:
***disk utility output:
disk name: IBM OEM 0664M1H
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
Its label is:
***disk label:
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label:
disk name: IBM OEM 0664M1H-512
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
ncyls 2857 ntrack 15 nsect 47 rpm 3600
sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0
ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0
boot blocks: #1 at 32 #2 at 96
bootfile: sdmach
host name:
root partition: a
read/write partition: b
part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type
a 0 1966360 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes 4.3BSD
disk utility issues such mkfs parameters:
*** mkfs parameters:
mkfs /dev/sd1a 1966360 47 15 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t
Up to now all is OK, and I succeeded in constructing the filesystem.
Now, fsck shows that all is right, and I mounted the new FS (rw, of course).
I can now read the file system (there is only lost+found, as to be
expected), but: I cannot write any single file or make any
directory. I always get "I/O Error".
I repeated the whole procedure some times, but without effect.
My questions:
- Is there anyone, who has successfully added such a disc to a NeXt
Station?
- How should the mkfs parameters look like? Are my parameters OK?
- are there suggestions why I cannot write on the disc?
- how can I prevent the automount parameter set to yes?
- how can I prevent minfree set to 10 ( I would like about 0%, because
its a common user disc)?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanx,
Joachim Richter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Subject: Re: Has my HP 712 disk gone bad ? SCSI reference ?
Sender: news@cupnews0.cup.hp.com (News Admin)
Message-ID: <Cw8B82.Cw0@cup.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 15:33:38 GMT
References: <35ab1i$srg@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Cupertino, CA
In article <35ab1i$srg@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>, buster@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster) writes:
|> while installing NS 3.2 on a 712/60, numerous messages like this pop up:
|>
|> Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: SCSI: id: 0013d1, lbolt: 0, bp: 3152058,
|> dev: e30, dev_type: (00) Direct Access, ansi: 2, rdf: 2, tag: 7e,
|> Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: cdb: 28 00 00 07 4b 90 00 00 10 00
|> Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: opcode: (28) bcount: 2000, addr: 12ae0,
|> residual: 1,
|>
|> can anyone tell me what's going on here ?
|>
|> a more general question, is there a SCSI reference available somewhere ?
|> I don't know if it would help me, but I'd like to be able to look up
|> opcode: (28). other error messages have always left me curious, like
|> what's the front porch (e.g. error during front porch walk or bootblock
|> exceeds front porch size) ?
Hi Paul,
There is a known firmware problem with the 1GB Quantum LPS1080S drive that
causes NS to barf. HP uses 1GB discs from 3 suppliers, the disc cited above
being one of them.
We have discontinued the use of this disc until the problem is resolved.
However, some shipments made it out before the problem was detected (it
doesn't manifest with HP-UX). You should contact your HP Sales Rep to
arrange for a replacement drive if you have a Quantum LPS1080S.
If you have a different disc, the problem is something else that will
require a call to NeXT support to track down. All other discs that we are
shipping in 712s work just fine with NS, except for the 2GB drives, which
aren't supported by NS due to a limitation in the operating system of a
2GB UFS.
2GB drives *can* be used, they just can't serve as the boot device. This is
because the drives are just a hair over 2GB in size (190k, to be exact), so
when NS interrogates the drive and attempts to put a filesystem on it via
newfs, the operation fails due to the limitation of 2GB in the UFS code of
NS (i.e., the command trys to build a filesystem with 2097342 1k blocks, the
reported size of the drive, when the UFS code allows a maximum size of
2097152 blocks [2GB]).
The 2GB drive can be used for general filesystem storage by partitioning
the disk into two partitions, as long as neither of them is bigger than
2GB. There is a possible workaround using partitioning that could make a
2GB disk work in theory, however I haven't tried it yet myself; call NeXT
support for more info (I think you can boot the User installation CD-ROM
single-user, partition the disc, then go back and start the installation
over; NS installation should respect the partitioning of the disc, just as
it does with a DOS partition on a PC).
The reason disc manufacturers make their drives slightly larger than the
advertised capacity is to allow for sufficient spare sectors to substitute
for sectors that go bad over the life of the disk. Because NS relies on
interrogation of the disc to determine the appropriate filesystem size
rather than a table of supported disks and the correct filesystem size to
use for that disk, this problem can happen.
It's a double edged sword; the advantage is, NS need not know the specifics
of the drive prior to putting a filesystem on it (which is good). However,
the indeterminancy of this approach opens the door for the kind of problem
cited with the 2GB discs (which is a problem). Of course, if the newfs
command on NS simply truncated filesystem sizes to the maximum allowed,
this specific problem would be solved. Give NeXT a call and put in an
enhancement request :-)
--
Dave Waller
Hewlett-Packard Co. 19055 Pruneridge Ave.
Workstation Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-9809
Channel Partner Consulting, West (408|T) 447-4413
dwaller@cup.hp.com
From: merz@ips.id.ethz.ch (Andreas Merz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Back to 512 byte sectors. How?
Date: 16 Sep 1994 15:33:10 GMT
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ)
Message-ID: <35cdrm$np0@elna.ethz.ch>
I have some disks that i have used under NextStep, and therefore have
formatted them with 1024 bytes/sector. Now i want to use some of them under
msdos and therefore must reformat for 512 bytes/sector.
I have tried this on the NeXT and on the PC, but always failed.
Any Ideas?
--
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------> Interdisciplinary Project Center for Supercomputing (IPS) <------
"The solution of the mind is an organised way
of not coming to any conclusion" -Sri Chinmoy
From: albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cube video ram problems
Date: 16 Sep 1994 19:10:41 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35cg21$4lp@proffa.cc.tut.fi>
This is a forwarded message from: Juha Tuominen
I updated my old 030 board to a 040 board (silktop says the board was
manufactured in 1990). There were no problems what so ever with the old 030.
Now when the new board is in use, the following new feature appeared:
Every time CPU writes to the display memory some noise lines appear on the
screen (I mean megapixel, I don't have dimension). I moved my old
4 M SIMMs from 030 board to this new 040 board. Could that be the problem?
I guess not, since I'm writing this message using the new board and
system is up and running. The vram seems to be ok, because graphics is
not corrupted in any way. Only lines full of crap run all the time on the
screen. Bigger the window I move with the mouse, the more crap lines I get
on the screen. Any ideas what might be the problem? Of course I'll return
the board, if it's just plain broken, but...
-Juha
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SB16
Date: 16 Sep 1994 17:53:40 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <35cm34$3ud@gamera.umd.edu>
is there a Driver for NS/I 3.2 that will run the Sound Blaster 16? If so
where can I get it?
--
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| "if you live for the present,
argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jason@jlc.net (Jason T. Nelson)
Subject: Re: NeXT CD ROM Drives with Intel Machines?
Message-ID: <Cw8Ax6.FKv@jlc.net>
Organization: John Leslie Consulting
References: <35armc$7at@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 15:27:05 GMT
In article <35armc$7at@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
Gregory B Howland <gregory@nukestep.mit.edu> wrote:
>Will NeXT CD ROM drives work with Intel based machines?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Greg
We have a CD ROM drive (Apple External, no less) on our Intel machine running
NS 3.2, but we've also had the drive on another machine running 3.1.
-Jason T. Nelson
-John Leslie Consulting
-NeXT mail ok!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI Controllers
Message-ID: <1994Sep16.125103.9337@yvax.byu.edu>
From: Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
Date: 16 Sep 94 12:50:52 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University
Are there any PCI SCSI controllers supported by NS-I yet or do I need to
wait for 3.3?
Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 4x CD ROMs?
Message-ID: <1994Sep16.144846.9341@yvax.byu.edu>
From: Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
Date: 16 Sep 94 14:48:23 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University
Do quad-speed cd-rom drives work with NS-I? How about the Plextor 4Plex,
for example?
Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
From: pauls@locust.cic.net (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to bypass ROM passwd set on 040 cube?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 16 Sep 1994 20:55:48 GMT
Organization: CICNet, Inc.
Message-ID: <35d0ok$h97@spruce.cic.net>
I just inherited an 040 cube. It has the ROM passwd set and I need to
boot to single user mode. Any ideas for how to bypass that? I have tried
pulling the boot PROM and the battery without any success yet...
Please email.
--
Paul Southworth
CICNet Systems Support
pauls@cic.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: aaron@tbyte.com (Aaron Greene)
Subject: Seagate 9GB help
Message-ID: <1994Sep17.010058.16157@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: RRZN
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 01:00:58 GMT
I seem to remember that people have gotten the Seagate 9GB drives to work
under NeXTStep so we just purchased one. If anyone has any suggestions,
tips or tricks on what worked for them please send them to me. Detailed
instructions on how you were successful and even disktab entries would be
highly appreciated.
Thanks,
Aaron Greene
Net Admin - Trilobyte
aaron@tbyte.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Seek Recommendation for P5/90 System
In-Reply-To: zrudedog@aol.com's message of 15 Sep 1994 14:41:01 -0400
To: zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep16095436@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.94Sep9085419@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<35a4ft$53r@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:54:35 GMT
In article <35a4ft$53r@newsbf01.news.aol.com> zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Sep9085419@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
Seagate barracuda 2.1 GByte drive with Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI
controller (supported only since NS 3.3 pr2). $1800
-----
Where can I obtain above disk configuration and drivers?
I recently ordered a DELL XPS90 w/GXEPRO.
You can get this disk at any number of mail order places. Most carry
it and the same goes for the 2940. The price for this combination
seems to have dropped to about $1.5k to $1.6k since I made the above
post, BTW.
However, if you don't already have the driver, probably you can't get
it until NS 3.3 is released in a few months.
Carl Edman
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 4x CD ROMs?
Date: 17 Sep 1994 05:28:39 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <35duq7$9lb@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <1994Sep16.144846.9341@yvax.byu.edu>
writes
> Do quad-speed cd-rom drives work with NS-I? How about the Plextor
4Plex,
> for example?
>
> Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
I do not know about Intel specific. However, my NEC quad-spin CD-ROM drive
works brilliantly with my cube. Somehow I have to set it to SCSI-2 mode.
shigeru
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Subject: Re: To power down or not to power down... (How about this little number...)
Message-ID: <Cw91nC.oA@califhistsoc.org>
Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie)
Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 01:04:24 GMT
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Leave it on? Turn it off?
Mark (and a multitude of others) are correct about eliminating power
consumption---it's just wise!!! (like using a broom to clean your sidewalk
instead of hosing it down with preciously scarce water!)
Normal UNIX-type folks have a valid point about the housekeeping chores
performed by crontab, like sweeping in the corners at 4:13am, for example.
I would like to offer a compromise suggestion, hoping some expert types
will affirm or laugh at my assumption.
assumption: Doesn't the automatic fsck perform many of the same
housekeeping functions on startup, and therefore the dirty corners and
other chores get performed automatically at that time.
If that were true, people could do like I do, leave the main server CPU on
always, as well as the other contributing CPUs which publish directories
to the net, and turn the other ones off---both to save power, and to save
the mono screens, which we know get dim or fuzzy (at least the early
ones.)
Happy balance and sound reasoning for me, s'il vous plait.
Robert MacKimmie
Sys Admin for 12 NeXT boxes.
From: mudge@madwand.tiac.net (Mudge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: To power down or not to power down... (How about this little number...)
Date: 17 Sep 1994 15:50:32 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <35f389$mv3@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <Cw91nC.oA@califhistsoc.org>
>
> assumption: Doesn't the automatic fsck perform many of the same
> housekeeping functions on startup, and therefore the dirty corners and
> other chores get performed automatically at that time.
>
No. the fsck program (BSD) checks all of the filesystems on every boot.
It's looking for any inconsistencies with the superblock and information
on the disk (inode info etc.).
This is by no means replacement for housekeeping programms (such as
pruning of log files) or other automated tasks such as UUCP mail
forwarding. fsck couldn't care less about the size of your log files
(unless something bizarre happens to it's I-node etc.).
What you might be confusing this with are the initialisation scripts that
are run after the fsck program. Some of these will go through and remove
files if they should not be there (ie locks on special device files) and
other various tasks (including initialising the cron daemon).
Hope this helps a bit,
mudge@madwand.tiac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Message-ID: <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:57:11 GMT
Video BIOS is 1.15.18J, Release 87111593. It's on an AMI Enterprise IV with a BusLogic 747S(v3.37). Default VGA is fine, but the BETA won't even do 640x480x2@60Hz(or 72Hz). Changing port from 0x3B4 to 0x3C0 changed nothing. Slowing the CPU and disabling both levels of caching changed nothing as well. Changing mapped memory produced varying degree os failure. 1280x1024x2@72Hz gave me this message:
Unexpected Kernel trap d eip 100003
Failed instruction exception(2.d,aae80000)
Kernel panic exception (6.3.1)
Thereafter I tried 640x480x2@72Hz with other addresses, to keep VRAM
window small. Address 0x2010000 gave me one-inch, blue/black bars
along the top of the screen. And a "Failed Instruction (2,d,40f000)".
0x4010000 gave me three inches of the same color pattern, with a
yellow streak in the middle third of the bars(0x3EC00000 gave me the
same results).
root installed the driver without incident. I took care to cycle the
power switch when I powered down to load my driver changes.
Is anyone successfully running the driver in *any* mode?
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From: albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: black hw bootup error codes
Date: 18 Sep 1994 02:39:02 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
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This is a forwarded message from: Juha Tuominen
My cube started to give error code 65 with exception error 2 at the very
beginning of the boot (goes to rom monitor). System boots correctly
with command bsd. Anyone has a list of the system error codes?
-Juha
From: dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT CD ROM Drives with Intel Machines?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 18 Sep 1994 02:47:17 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
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References: <35armc$7at@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Gregory B Howland (gregory@nukestep.mit.edu) wrote:
: Will NeXT CD ROM drives work with Intel based machines?
Absolutely. I installed my NeXTSTEP system using a NeXT CD
ROM from an original NeXT machine with an Adaptec 1542C SCSI
controller card. (Note: the NeXT CD ROM is slow, single speed)
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Back to 512 byte sectors. How?
Date: 18 Sep 1994 18:23:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
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References: <nickj-170994212614@port51.annex1.net.ubc.ca>
In article <nickj-170994212614@port51.annex1.net.ubc.ca>
nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet) writes:
> Get SDFormat from CS.ORST.edu it is will do any number of different
> sectors..
>
Beware that many new drives come with embedded servos that prevent
reformatting by the user. Apparently, using an embedded servo reduces the
number of moving parts therefore increasing the reliability (and maybe
speed, but I'm only regurgitating info that I don't really understand, so
take all of this with a grain of salt :-) So sdformat and any software
reformatting approach will fail for these drives and may even cause
problems for all I know.
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Problem with Slab serial port
Message-ID: <CwBoGH.1AI@muaddib.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <359kkg$sp8@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
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Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 11:12:17 GMT
In article <359kkg$sp8@condor.cs.jhu.edu> audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
writes:
| Something just happened to by Slab's serial port A. It no longer
| comunicates correctly with my modem. If I open the device, RTS
| is asserted but DTR isn't. This just happened, I was logged into
| a remote system, I reset the modem due to a noisy line, then it
| stopped working. Every thing is OK if I use port B. Is there
| a way to reset the serial ports ( I've already rebooted ) or does
| this sound like a fried port?
|
| Chris
Seems to be fried, the same happens to my B-port :)
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: 4x CD ROMs?
Message-ID: <CwCJ0r.236@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <1994Sep16.144846.9341@yvax.byu.edu>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 22:12:26 GMT
Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu wrote:
: Do quad-speed cd-rom drives work with NS-I? How about the Plextor 4Plex,
: for example?
My Plextor 4Plex PX43CH installed NS just fine, Jesse. I just got
mine a couple of weeks ago. For a reason I can't explain, it would
not run with SCSI ID 2; I switched it over to 5, and all ran fine.
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From: vamp@csulb.edu (VampLestat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Seagate 9GB help
Date: 19 Sep 1994 00:49:13 GMT
Organization: Me, organized? You gotta be kidding.
Message-ID: <35in69$f5p@garuda.csulb.edu>
References: <1994Sep17.010058.16157@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
And Aaron Greene<aaron@tbyte.com> spake unto the masses:
>If anyone has any suggestions,
>tips or tricks on what worked for them please send them to me. Detailed
>instructions on how you were successful and even disktab entries would be
>highly appreciated.
You're going to have to partition it into multiple partitions smaller than
2gig each, and you cant use the GUI app, it has to be done command line.
I'd suggest grabbing the sdformat util from the archive at
arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de and reading over NextAnswers #1533 on how
to partition large drives. You'll have to build your own disktab (the
one I made was accidentally deleted in a recent upgrade), but the
NextAnswer explains the process rather well. Just fill in the blanks and
make sure to set up atleast 5 different partitions. You might have to
tweak the cyl/group down to 28, from the default 32 that the instructions
suggest should work.
The trick is getting the sdformat utility. The next sdform command just
seems to choak on these big disks. After that, the rest is easy.
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From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables?
Date: 18 Sep 1994 19:49:43 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940919095320.5154AACUG.mmalc@hotaru>
References: <35bhsm$ihb@news.service.uci.edu>
> Can any one recommend a good (or bad) portable known to work with
> NeXTStep/intel. I am look for one in the 100Mhz 486 range. I would like one
> with a SCSI controller.
>
The only one I've seen and liked is the Talus portable... because it was
colour and everything worked (including sound and NEXTIME). The only others I
have seen have been greyscale, which IMHO doesn't really cut it at 640x480.
NS 3.3 will allow 8-bit colour on other portables, but I'd still trust the
Talus ones first.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Currently at:
mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp
ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs.
2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan
Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008
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From: alec@chaos.mcs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTLaser Adapter Board for PC's?
Date: 19 Sep 1994 03:01:41 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Dept. Math, Statistics, & Comp. Sci.
Message-ID: <35iuul$de5@spool.mu.edu>
Hello,
Many months ago I heard about an adapter board for a PC running NS that would allow one to attach an original NeXT 400 DPI laser printer. Anyone know of any contact/pricing info?
Thanks in Advance,
Alec Ellsworth
alec@chaos.mcs.mu.edu
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Controllers
Date: 19 Sep 1994 03:52:41 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
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References: <35ghv3$m3o@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <35ghv3$m3o@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
writes:
> Why wait? You can get the NCR 53C810/825 Fast/Wide SCSI-2 controllers
> with drivers right now from Talus (info@talus.com).
Are you sure that controller is a Fast Wide Differential
controller? Most controllers are Fast (Single-Ended) in
the PC world currently. FWD systems can transfer much
more data, but you can't use any other type of disk, unlike
the Fast (Single-Ended) systems, which can use older
"Slow" (Single-Ended) disks.
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Controllers
Date: 19 Sep 1994 01:52:01 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
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Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote:
: Are you sure that controller is a Fast Wide Differential
: controller? Most controllers are Fast (Single-Ended) in
: the PC world currently. FWD systems can transfer much
: more data, but you can't use any other type of disk, unlike
: the Fast (Single-Ended) systems, which can use older
: "Slow" (Single-Ended) disks.
The NCR 810 is Fast SCSI-2, while the 825 is Fast-Wide SCSI-2. Likewise the
Adaptec 2940 is Fast SCSI-2, and the 2940W is Fast-Wide.
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: The Music Kit on a PC
Date: 19 Sep 1994 02:46:58 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940919165152.5613AACUM.mmalc@hotaru>
People crying out for decent sound suport on Intel machines should be
particularly interested in the announcement of MusicKit 4.1 which I've copied
to c.s.n.software: it includes support for Turtle Beach and Ariel 56k sound
cards.
Again, many, many thanks to Jaffe, Smith et al. for this.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Currently at:
mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp
ATR Human Information Processing Research Labs.
2-2 Hikaridai, Seika-cho Soraku-gun, Kyoto 619-02, Japan
Phone: +81-7749-5-1089 Facsimile: +81-7749-5-1008
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Controllers
Date: 19 Sep 94 10:09:18 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.779969358@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <1994Sep16.125103.9337@yvax.byu.edu> <nickj-170994213209@port51.annex1.net.ubc.ca> <35ghv3$m3o@anshar.shadow.net>
jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>Why wait? You can get the NCR 53C810/825 Fast/Wide SCSI-2 controllers
>with drivers right now from Talus (info@talus.com). There is also the
>Adaptec 2940 PCI Fast SCSI-2, which will be supported in 3.3, and
>possibly with a Talus driver sooner.
Because I expect the DPT to give a much better overall performance than
the NCR 53C810. Mine is equal to an ISA DPT 2021, because of the low
write performance (about only 600 kB/s) of the combination NCR with Talus
driver.
Markus.
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From: chris@MilleniumFalcon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Controllers
Date: 19 Sep 94 08:17:04
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>Are you sure that controller is a Fast Wide Differential
>controller? Most controllers are Fast (Single-Ended) in
>the PC world currently. FWD systems can transfer much
>more data, but you can't use any other type of disk, unlike
>the Fast (Single-Ended) systems, which can use older
>"Slow" (Single-Ended) disks.
Wait a second... you're mixing up two different issues here. Fast vs. Wide is completely independent of Differential vs. Non-differential.
Fast and Wide are terms which define the data transfer capabilities of the SCSI bus. Fast SCSI refers to a maximum data transfer speed of 10 MHz (vs. normal 5 MHz speeds). Wide SCSI refers to the width of the data transfer bus: non-wide is 8 bits, Wide is either 16 or 32 bits.
(These specifications are where the theoretical maximum transfer rates you hear bandied about are derived from: Fast non-Wide = 10 MHz * 8 bits, Fast 16 Bit Wide = 20 MHz * 16 bits = 20 MB/sec, Fast 32 Bit Wide = 20 MHz * 32 bits = 40 MB/sec). Although there are differences in cabling pin-outs between Wide and Non-Wide (wide needs additional pins for the extra bits) it is still usually possible to mix Wide and Non-wide peripherals on the same bus by using the proper cables and connectors.
Differential and Non-Differential are solely concerned with the electrical specifications of the SCSI bus. The electrical signalling scheme on differential systems is more noise resistant and allows reliable signalling over longer cable lengths (up to 25 meters vs 10 meters for non-differential). Since there are electrical differences between differential and non-differential devices you can NOT mix differential and non-differential components without using some kind of (usually expensive and
hard to find) bridge adaptor to convert signals.
Thus, in summary, you can find controllers which are Fast Non-Differential, Fast Differential, Fast Wide Non-differential, or Fast Wide Differential. (Other combinations are also theoretically possible although in reality I've never heard of a controller which is Wide but not Fast.)
- Chris
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Controllers
Date: 19 Sep 1994 07:31:40 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet) writes:
>Wait for the DPT pci that will probably ship in late October.
>The driver already works with NextStep
It works for ISA and EISA. But I haven't seen a scheduled release date for
a DPT PCI driver.
>and the PCI bus is so unstable anyways you
>might as wait as long as you can.
I wouldn't consider my PCI system (Neptune chipset) as unstable - it has
never crashed yet.
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From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 21" non-ADB with Mac?
Date: 19 Sep 1994 08:30:00 -0700
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/638-4133)
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <35kapo$ete@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
I'm under the impression that the non-ADB Hitachi 21" megapixel is not
compatible with Macintosh machines, although the ADB monitor is. I'm
going to sell one of my NeXTs and slide into the PowerPC world, and I
would like to keep the big screen. Has anyone made the non-ADB work
with a Mac?
thanks,
Chip
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From: troyw@csn.org (Troy Weingart)
Subject: Re: PCI Controllers
Message-ID: <CwE1o4.MM1@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
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References: <1994Sep16.125103.9337@yvax.byu.edu>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 17:52:52 GMT
Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu wrote:
: Are there any PCI SCSI controllers supported by NS-I yet or do I need to
: wait for 3.3?
: Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
I heard/read that the PCI bus specification was being revised to update the
clock speed to 66Mhz. If this is true when and how will it effect the
peripherals running a 33Mhz? Seems that graphics cards would see the most
dramtic improvement?
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From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How long will my Maxtor 330 drive last?
Date: 19 Sep 1994 19:14:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <35knub$d1m@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi all,
My original Maxtor 330 drive occasionally makes scrapey noises and once or
twice moans. It was manufactured in 1988, probably in use since then.
Do any of you have experience with a drive this old? Does anyone still have
one out there working fine? What I'd really like to know is if its days are
numbered, or if I'm running on borrowed time.
Please email me at the address below. Thanks!
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"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
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From: root@dusya.osd.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Phone Kit
Date: 19 Sep 1994 21:41:44 GMT
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA
Message-ID: <35l0io$ue@kesha.seanet.com>
Does anyone know where is the company that own Phone kit?
How do I contact them. Is it available on FTP?
From: hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: video frame grabber
Date: 19 Sep 1994 22:01:55 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <35l1oj$sc9@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
I have plans for a video image processing app that
grabs video frames from an NTSC device at a frequency
of 4 Hz and places them in an NXBitmapImageRep, which
is then used for lots of processing down the line.
The MOVIE MACHINE PRO, Video Overlay, Mixing and Output Device
seems to generate TIFF files, but the announcement I have from
their post to csn.hardware in May implies that there's no
way for a user to do what I want. Plus there's lots of
video editing bells and whistles I don't need.
Any pointers to an intel-compatible frame grabber with
source code I could hack into my app?
Thanks in advance. -John
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From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Phone Kit
Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:10:40 GMT
Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net)
Message-ID: <35l5pg$205@core.symnet.net>
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Operator writes
> Does anyone know where is the company that own Phone kit?
> How do I contact them. Is it available on FTP?
NeXT wrote phone Kit.
1-800-TRY-NeXT
Let me know if you find any info on it.
I've also got the NeXT-Hayes ISDN adaptor(which the
phoneKit was made for).
Steve
From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Recommendation: Diamond Stealth 64 LocalBus for NS/I
Date: 19 Sep 1994 18:27:18 -0500
Organization: InterAccess Co., Chicago's Best Internet Provider
Message-ID: <35l6om$5m7@home.interaccess.com>
After having unbelievable amounts of trouble trying to get my Number Nine
GXE (4Mb) working with my machine, I tried a Diamond Stealth 64 (4Mb)
Local Bus. It worked!!
My summary is -
It looks gorgeous,
it isn't light-speed fast, but definately fast enough for NEXSTEP.
If you are considering 24bit color, put this on your shortlist.
Also does 1600 x 1200, although 60Mhz only.
A definate recommendation from me.
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From: icsjp135@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Kenneth Gilmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Concidering NextStep
Date: 19 Sep 1994 06:31:49 GMT
Organization: Montana State University
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Message-ID: <35jb8l$1au@pdq.coe.montana.edu>
I am a past Amiga user who is concidering either going Windows (I know, I know,
but VisualBasic is cool) or NextStep. I am trying to aquire info on a basic
setup, nothing fancy. All I will do is programming (Simulations, mostly).
I want to go with an Intel machine, because of cost. I can get a 486dx-33
with 500MB HD, and a decent SVGA Gfx board with 2MB of video memory, although
it isn't local bus. I already have a 14" SVGA monitor which I wish to use. Is
this impractical? I also know I will need a CD-ROM drive. In general, is this
a decent set-up. Again, no major apps, just programming. Any advice
will be greatly appriciated.
-Ken Gilmer
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: 4x CD ROMs?
Message-ID: <CwEt7E.3H3@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <1994Sep16.144846.9341@yvax.byu.edu> <CwCJ0r.236@eskimo.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 03:47:37 GMT
Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
: My Plextor 4Plex PX43CH installed NS just fine, Jesse. I just got
: mine a couple of weeks ago. For a reason I can't explain, it would
: not run with SCSI ID 2; I switched it over to 5, and all ran fine.
I just learned that it runs fine as ID 2. It's my hard drive that is
acting finicky; still weeding out the possibilities.
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Micropolis 2117 Questions
Message-ID: <CwEu0L.4IH@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 04:05:09 GMT
I have successfully installed NS 3.2 on this drive using the 1542B Adaptec driver; but only as SCSI ID #1; #0 results in AHA timeouts with the EISA BusLogic 747S controller. Anyone have thoughts on why this is so? I have a number of ideas that, perhaps, you could help me rule out:
1) 486DX2-66 runs too fast; set it to slow mode;
2) RAM caching puts things out of sync;
3) Controller ROM address cannot be shadowed;
4) Shadow RAM must(or must not) be write protected;
5) Cache write back creates problems;
6) CPU should not be allowed to do hidden refreshes;
7) Controller must be set to initiate sync negotiation;
8) EISA bus burst cycles must be disabled;
9) CD-ROM should not be in block mode;
10)SCSI cable is flakey.
Finally, what is hard drive spindle sync termination all about? My
Micropolis came set with Slave and Master Sync being terminated.
I plan to try the BusLogic driver with an install and see how it fairs. . . .
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Concidering NextStep
Date: 20 Sep 1994 00:27:34 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <35lobm$49b@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <35jb8l$1au@pdq.coe.montana.edu>
Kenneth Gilmer (icsjp135@gemini.oscs.montana.edu) wrote:
: I am a past Amiga user who is concidering either going Windows (I know, I know,
: but VisualBasic is cool) or NextStep. I am trying to aquire info on a basic
: setup, nothing fancy. All I will do is programming (Simulations, mostly).
: I want to go with an Intel machine, because of cost. I can get a 486dx-33
: with 500MB HD, and a decent SVGA Gfx board with 2MB of video memory, although
: it isn't local bus. I already have a 14" SVGA monitor which I wish to use. Is
: this impractical? I also know I will need a CD-ROM drive. In general, is this
: a decent set-up. Again, no major apps, just programming. Any advice
: will be greatly appriciated.
If you want to start out on the right foot with NeXTSTEP, you'd better
think higher than a DX33. In my experience, it takes at least a DX2/50 to
get NS really running (though a DX33 will work). If you want anything better
than 2-bit mono at 1024x768, you'll have to get a supported local-bus (VLB or
PCI) video card. To take advantage of higher resolutions, you'll want a
larger monitor (unless you enjoy squinting). As for CD-ROM, for
installation, you must have a SCSI drive connected to a supported SCSI
adapter. What you haven't mentioned is RAM. For doing anything
worthwhile, 16MB is the minimum.
A DX33 with ISA video, sufficient RAM and a 14" monitor will work, as
long as the devices are all supported, but performance won't be great.
By the same token, Windows performance on that system won't be great
either.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Controllers
Date: 20 Sep 1994 04:23:49 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35lo4l$hkm@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <chris.94Sep198174@MilleniumFalcon>
>>> I wrote:
Are you sure that controller is a Fast Wide Differential
controller? Most controllers are Fast (Single-Ended)
in the PC world currently. FWD systems can transfer much
more data, but you can't use any other type of disk, unlike
the Fast (Single-Ended) systems, which can use older
"Slow" (Single-Ended) disks.
>>> chris@MilleniumFalcon writes:
Wait a second... you're mixing up two different issues
here. Fast vs. Wide is completely independent of
Differential vs. Non-differential.
[fine verbose description of SCSI traits deleted]
Thus, in summary, you can find controllers which are Fast
Non-Differential, Fast Differential, Fast Wide
Non-differential, or Fast Wide Differential. (Other
combinations are also theoretically possible although
in reality I've never heard of a controller which is Wide
but not Fast.)
>>> I respond:
I didn't mix anything up at all that shouldn't be mixed up ;-)
You are correct about the SCSI theory involved. In
practice, however, one sees some SCSI combinations
much less often.
The most common offerings by far are:
SCSI-2 Fast Single-Ended
SCSI-2 Slow (mostly older models)
SCSI-2 Fast Wide Differential
..which is why I used those examples. In general, one
would be limited by the market to one type of widely
available disk for the differential controller: Fast
Wide Differential. That's fine with me, since it's the
"best" of all the SCSI traits in performance, but it lacks
backwards compatibility (without an expensive
differential-single converter) with older disks.
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: JCIS info
Message-ID: <1994Sep19.231318.14685@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 23:13:18 GMT
Can someone please send me a phone number for JCIS.
Thanks,
Phil
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: How to bypass ROM passwd set on 040 cube?
Message-ID: <CwC6zp.2EM@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <35d0ok$h97@spruce.cic.net>
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 17:52:37 GMT
In article <35d0ok$h97@spruce.cic.net> pauls@locust.cic.net (Paul Southworth)
writes:
#
#I just inherited an 040 cube. It has the ROM passwd set and I need to
#boot to single user mode. Any ideas for how to bypass that? I have tried
#pulling the boot PROM and the battery without any success yet...
Pull the battery again and levae it out for a while.
Kent
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From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SB16 PD Driver
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 01:13:24 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <giTaxoe00WBNQD03hV@andrew.cmu.edu>
Has anyone gotten the Public Domain SoundBlaster driver working? I
tried versions 1.00, 1.04, ans 2.00 but none do the trick. I have an
SB16 Basic (i.e. no DSP) and it's on IRQ 5, 8-bit DMA 1, 16-bit DMA 7,
and I/O port 220. I get error messages in /usr/adm/messages like:
DMA stopped
sound stream encoding 'linear16'
not supported DMA 16 bit word.
I thought the last message meant that the 16-bit mode wasn't
supported, but the driver (2.00) won't let me use the 8-bit mode.
If anyone has any advice please help. Thanks in advance.
-Leo
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From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ADB mono monitor problem - cured
Message-ID: <1994Sep20.163037.356@tanuki.twics.com>
Date: 20 Sep 94 16:30:37 JST
Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access]
Thanks to those who replied about the mono monitor problem I posted
earlier. The problem seems to have gone away without my doing anything
to it. Maybe is was just the crud from the air-conditioner burning
up which did it (now there's a worrying thought!).
However, all seems to be OK now.
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Has my HP 712 disk gone bad ? SCSI reference ?
Message-ID: <1994Sep19.064200.11561@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <35ab1i$srg@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> <Cw8B82.Cw0@cup.hp.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 06:42:00 GMT
dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
[...]
>NS (i.e., the command trys to build a filesystem with 2097342 1k blocks, the
>reported size of the drive, when the UFS code allows a maximum size of
>2097152 blocks [2GB]).
[...]
Hi Dave,
Thanks for this info. It answers exactly my questions about formatting a
Dec (Oh dear... :-) drive of 2Gb. I just posted it to next.sysadmin.
Willem
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From: tjohnson@cobber.cord.edu (Protius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: rom bootp arguments
Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:50:14 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <35lpm6$ad4@cobber.cord.edu>
I have a Nextstation which I'm trying to boot with bootp. The bootp server
is expecting the bootp request on the new broadcast address, and the default
on the Next is the old one. Does anyone know how to get the Next to use the
new broadcast address? or a different port?
(I'm trying to boot AT&T's new Plan 9 operating system, so I can't use the
NextStep diskless boot software)
Thanks in advance!
-Tommy
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: long printer cord???
Message-ID: <CwDtHB.tF@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <357jik$65n@mailer.fsu.edu>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 14:55:59 GMT
In article <357jik$65n@mailer.fsu.edu> lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu
(Peter S. Lakanen) writes:
> I need a 50 foot (15 meter) cable for my NeXT B&W Printer.
>
> Does this beast exist? If so where?
======
From NeXTanswers 1289:
Q: Can the cable for the NeXT Laser Printer be extended somehow?
A: No. There will be too much signal skew.
QA433
Valid for 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1
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From: zjr@fsuj10.rz.uni-jena.de (Joachim Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to get work such disc: IBM OEM 0664M1H
Date: 20 Sep 1994 10:46:46 GMT
Organization: Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35meim$n1t@hpux.rz.uni-jena.de>
References: <35bl2m$9md@hpux.rz.uni-jena.de>
The disk is working now!
Thanx to all who sent me hints and papers.
The problem was obviously the "disconnect/reconnect on demand"-feature
of the IBM disk.
Regards,
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Dell Optiplex with built-in Tseng Labs Video
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 11:46:18 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Sep20.114618.5984@cyantic.com>
So far we are pleased with the results of putting up our first Intel box.
However, with the built-in video Tseng W32000i chip and 2Mb of video RAM it
looks like we are getting only 2bit grey scale at 1024 x 768 resolution.
When the system boots the diagnostic messages say that there is a failure
in trying to load a video driver and it backs off to the configuratin
above.
We would like to run with this configuration to keep our client's costs
down, but would like to get something a bit better out of the video.
Any ideas? Does this require changing the synch speed or other
configuration parameters?
Thanks in advance. Email responses preferred.
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From: chung@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com (Chung Ng)
Subject: Cirrus Logic 5424 & generic 486DX2/66
Message-ID: <1994Sep20.062702.8797@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com>
Organization: AT&T Global Information Solutions
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of AT&T.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 06:27:02 GMT
Hello,
I am looking into getting NeXTSTEP to run on my computer.
Does NeXTSTEP run with video adaptor based on the Cirrus Logic 5424?
If so, at what resolution and color/greyscale depth does it run on?
My system is just a generic VL bus based 486DX2/66 (by Mitac of Taiwan,
Award BIOS, UMC-491 chipset). What is the likelyhood that NeXTSTEP is
not compatible with the motherboard?
Thank you for your help in advance.
Chung Ng
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From: jbright@schoolnet (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: Phone Kit
Message-ID: <CwFIu9.639@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <35l0io$ue@kesha.seanet.com> <35l5pg$205@core.symnet.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:01:20 GMT
Steve Dekorte (dekorte@symnet.net) wrote:
: Operator writes
: > Does anyone know where is the company that own Phone kit?
: > How do I contact them. Is it available on FTP?
: NeXT wrote phone Kit.
: 1-800-TRY-NeXT
: Let me know if you find any info on it.
: I've also got the NeXT-Hayes ISDN adaptor(which the
: phoneKit was made for).
Last I heard, NeXT sold/gave the PhoneKit to Pencom, where I assume it
has been sitting in a drawer ever since.
later
jay
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From: gshaw@starbase1.gpl.com (George Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Number Nine 128bit graphics
Date: 20 Sep 1994 13:33:03 GMT
Message-ID: <35moaf$76c@errigle.gpl.net>
Keywords: Nextstep Number Nine
Number Nine are advertising a 128bit graphics card that
"Includes support for Windows, NT, OS\2, and NeXTstep"
Anyone have info on this board. The advert was in "CAD Magazine" Sept
issue.
Sounds just the ticket.
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From: hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Phone Kit
Date: 20 Sep 1994 14:14:50 GMT
Organization: German National Research Center for IT
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References: <35l0io$ue@kesha.seanet.com> <35l5pg$205@core.symnet.net> <CwFIu9.639@cunews.carleton.ca>
In article <CwFIu9.639@cunews.carleton.ca>, jbright@schoolnet
(Jason Bright) writes:
[about Phonekit]
>Last I heard, NeXT sold/gave the PhoneKit to Pencom, where I assume it
>has been sitting in a drawer ever since.
If they haven't done any work on/with it, it's a real shame: the Windows '95
TAPI promises to take away this potentially large piece of the cake NeXT has
been baking. Same goes for ISDN connectivity. Why is it that nobody sees
these possibilities ? ISDN is going to skyrocket in the next few years, and
(pardon the pun) no MCCA business is an island.
Holger
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From: choang@tdkt.mn.org (Carl Hoang)
Subject: Q-Logic SCSI and Diamond Stealth 24
Message-ID: <1994Sep20.135531.18569@tdkt.mn.org>
Organization: The Dark Knight's Table BBS: Free public access news/email
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:55:31 GMT
Does NextStep support Q-Logic SCSI and Diamond Stealth 24 Video cards?
I'm planning to run NextStep on my Intel 486 DX2/66 with 20 Meg RAM.
Thanks.
Carl Hoang choang@tdkt.mn.org
From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: US Robotics modem NIGHTMARES with NeXTSTEP
Date: 20 Sep 1994 14:57:26 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <35mt8m$n7f@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
Keywords: USRobotics modem motorola slip tip ppp
Does anyone out there use a US Robotics Sportster modem with Motorola
hardware to dial out and connect to remote systems using tip, SLIP, or
PPP? If you do PLEASE advise.
I have been trying on and off all summer long to get my modem to work with
my 040 cube. So far I haven't gotten it to do zip. The modem works
perfectly fine under DOS/Windoze (both terminal vt100 connection and SLIP)
when connected to my PC.
When I attempt to use tip or SLIP with it on my cube, the modem dials up,
goes through a longer than normal tone sequence, then disconnects and
hangs up. I am then informed that the call failed.
I have done everything I can think of to the /etc/remote file and the
priveleges are all correct on the cua, cufa, cub, and cufb files.
Any ideas? I am about ready to give up hope of ever getting this modem to
work under NeXTSTEP.
Very, very frustrated,
Eric Baenen
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From: nimbus.ruhr.de!snoopy (Ingo Schaefer)
Subject: Re: SB16 PD Driver
Message-ID: <CwFpBv.BD@nimbus.ruhr.de>
Sender: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer)
Organization: Private Site, Germany
References: <giTaxoe00WBNQD03hV@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 15:21:29 GMT
In article <giTaxoe00WBNQD03hV@andrew.cmu.edu> Leo L Turetsky
<professor+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Has anyone gotten the Public Domain SoundBlaster driver working? I
> tried versions 1.00, 1.04, ans 2.00 but none do the trick. I have an
> SB16 Basic (i.e. no DSP) and it's on IRQ 5, 8-bit DMA 1, 16-bit DMA 7,
> and I/O port 220. I get error messages in /usr/adm/messages like:
> sound stream encoding 'linear16'
> not supported DMA 16 bit word.
> I thought the last message meant that the 16-bit mode wasn't
> supported, but the driver (2.00) won't let me use the 8-bit mode.
> If anyone has any advice please help. Thanks in advance
I had the same problem but it's easy to fix.
It seems that there is a bug in the driver, so when you convert
the 16 bit files in 8 bit files, then it works.
But look at cs.orst.edu. There could be a new driver version for SB16
-
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: US Robotics modem NIGHTMARES with NeXTSTEP
Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:45:32 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <35n3jc$3hr@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <35mt8m$n7f@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
Keywords: USRobotics modem motorola slip tip ppp
In article <35mt8m$n7f@blackbird.afit.af.mil>,
Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF <ebaenen@afit.af.mil> wrote:
>
>Does anyone out there use a US Robotics Sportster modem with Motorola
>hardware to dial out and connect to remote systems using tip, SLIP, or
>PPP? If you do PLEASE advise.
I -just- started playing with this an hour ago. Here's the setup:
1 040 slab, NS 3.0
1 USR 21.6k DS Courier HST on Port A
1 Cable (normal, was used with a 1200 bps modem, therefore most likely
no HWS, but I've yet to check the pinouts)
Using the demo version of TipTop, I've been able to logon to a local
bbs @9600 bps.
Using Tip/Cu I can only logon @1200 bps.
>I have done everything I can think of to the /etc/remote file and the
>priveleges are all correct on the cua, cufa, cub, and cufb files.
I cannot figure out how to setup /etc/phones. I defined a system
in /etc/remote that looks like this:
#shane's first 'definition' of a system
tap|usr21600:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#9600:at=hayes:du:
then in /etc/phones did this:
tap 92977031
>Any ideas? I am about ready to give up hope of ever getting this modem to
>work under NeXTSTEP.
dont' give up. It'll work. I've successfully connected using TipTop, so
it -is- possible. I think we're both doing something wrong with tip/cu.
BTW - if it helps, here is my /etc/remote file:
BASIC|Basic setup:\
:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
#
a9600|cua9600|Dial-out on cua at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
b9600|cub9600|Dial-out on cub at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cub:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
fa9600|cufa9600|Dial-out on cufa at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufa:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
fb9600|cufb9600|Dial-out on cufb at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufb:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
ttya9600|Hardwire on ttya at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/ttya:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
ttyb9600|Hardwire on ttyb at 9600 baud:\
:dv=/dev/ttyb:br#9600:tc=BASIC:
#
# General dialer definitions used below
#
dial1200|1200 Baud Hayes attributes:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#1200:at=hayes:du:
dial300|300 Hayes attributes:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#300:at=hayes:du:
dial9600|9600 Baud Hayes attributes:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#9600:at=hayes:du:
#shane's first 'definition' of a system
tap|usr21600:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#9600:at=hayes:du:
#
# UNIX system definitions
#
UNIX-1200|1200 Baud dial-out to another UNIX system:\
:el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q@:ie=#%$:oe=^D:tc=dial1200:
UNIX-300|300 Baud dial-out to another UNIX system:\
:el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q@:ie=#%$:oe=^D:tc=dial300:
#
tip0|tip1200:tc=UNIX-1200:
tip300:tc=UNIX-300:
cu0|cu300:tc=UNIX-300:
cu1200:tc=UNIX-1200:
#dialer:dv=/dev/cua:br#1200:
dialer:dv=/dev/cua:br#9600:
#--------------------------------------------------------------------
#The attributes are:
#
#dv device to use for the tty
#el EOL marks (default is NULL)
#du make a call flag (dial up)
#pn phone numbers (@ =>'s search phones file; possibly taken from
# PHONES environment variable)
#at ACU type (vadic, ventel, hayes, courier)
#ie input EOF marks (default is NULL)
#oe output EOF string (default is NULL)
#cu call unit (default is dv)
#br baud rate (defaults to 300)
#fs frame size (default is BUFSIZ) -- used in buffering writes
# on receive operations
#tc to continue a capability
--
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu or root@tap.colum.fnet.org :
:Call The Atomic Playground BBS 614-297-7031 24/96/14.4/16.8/21.6/28.8k DS HST:
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel Hardware survey
Date: 20 Sep 1994 17:35:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <35n6h1$7md@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Most of this survey (99.9%) was copied from the Linux Hardware Compatibility
Survey created by Travis Jensen (jensen@peruvian.utah.edu). It is used with
his permission.
Please e-mail all completed surveys to: gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu
without this info from Intel Hardware users, there can't be a FAQ or
database for people to use in building an Intel system to run NeXTSTEP.
Your help is GREATLY appreciated!
A) Desktops:
A1) What works?
A1-1) Motherboard questions:
CPU (Intel, AMD, etc):
Model (386, 486, 486DX2, Pentium, etc):
Speed of chip (in Mhz):
Manufacturer of motherboard:
Model number of motherboard:
Physical Memory (in megabytes):
Bus architecture (ISA, VLB, PCI, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-2) Video card questions:
Manufacturer of video card:
Model of video card:
Chipset of graphics card:
Bus interface (PCI, VLB, ISA, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-3) Monitor questions:
Manufacturer of monitor:
Model of monitor:
Size of monitor (in inches or cm's):
Max Resolution and refresh rate (x_pix X y_pix @ Hz):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-4) SCSI adapter questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Bus interface (PCI, VLB, ISA, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-5) Hard drive questions:
For this section, please use the following format for each
drive that you have on your system (as many as is necessary)
Type (SCSI/SCSI-2/IDE):
Manufacturer:
Model:
Size (in megabytes):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-6) Tape backup questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Capacity (in megabytes):
Type (IDE, SCSI, parallel port, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-7) CD ROM questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Type [IDE/SCSI]:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-8) Modem/fax questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Speed:
Compression:
Type [Internal/External]:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-9) Mouse/Trackball
Manufacturer:
Model:
Type (bus, ps2, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-10) Ethernet card questions:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Bus interface (ISA, EISA, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A1-11) What other hardware do you use with NeXTSTEP, and what software
is needed to use it (e.g., extra drivers). Give a short description
of the hardware on the description line.
Description:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A2) What doesn't work?
A2-1) Hardware that you've tried that doesn't work:
Description:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
A3) Out-of-the-box systems:
(Please list any changes to the purchase configuration, and put
them above.)
A3-1) Who made it?
Manufacturer (vendor):
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
B) Notebooks:
B1) What works?
B1-1) Who made it?
Manufacturer (vendor):
Model:
Graphics modes possible (resolution/bits per pixel):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
B1-2) Notebook periphials:
Note: You can repeat this section as many times as is
necessary.
Description:
Type (PCMCIA, parallel port, internal):
Manufacturer:
Model:
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
B2-0) What doesn't work?
B2-1) Notebooks you couldn't get NeXTSTEP running on:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Comments:
B2-2) Periphials you couldn't get working under NeXTSTEP:
Description:
Manufacturer:
Model:
Type (PMCIA, parallel port, internal, etc):
Non-NeXT Driver? [Y/N]
Comments:
please add any info/setups/etc that you may feel important,
like the use of MUX drivers, etc...
thank you very much!
Gary Lalim
--
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please
Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list
__________________________________________________________________
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Concidering NextStep
Date: 20 Sep 1994 17:00:44 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <35n4fs$b3a@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <35lobm$49b@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <35lobm$49b@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay
Fuchs) writes:
> If you want to start out on the right foot with NeXTSTEP, you'd better
> think higher than a DX33. In my experience, it takes at least a DX2/50
to
> get NS really running (though a DX33 will work).
I disagree with this. I have a friend running NeXTstep on a DX33 -
while a 50 is certainly faster, the 33 is very usable. (Probably a
bit faster than my NeXTstation at home, though the video isn't as
fast.)
I certainly agree with your later comments about video and RAM.
NeXTstep was built assuming a decent screen resolution, and it
suffers _greatly_ at lower than 1024 x 768. A 14" monitor is
pretty minimalist, as well - I recommend a minimum of 16" monitor.
And 16MB is a pretty realistic minimum for NeXTstep, though an
extra 4 - 8MB can help tremendously.
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail/MIME spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: keltym@barh1a.its.rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT486 on a Gateway
Date: 20 Sep 1994 17:26:27 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Sender: keltym@barh1a.its.rpi.edu (Matthew Dunavin Kelty)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35n603$1h0@usenet.rpi.edu>
Help,
I have a Gateway Pentium (66 MHz) with a Viper PCI Graphics Card, a
Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, and a 3-COM Etherlink III card. Is it possible to
install NeXT on my computer?
Thanks in advance....
Matt Kelty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Thille)
Subject: Re: long printer cord???
Message-ID: <1994Sep20.184419.20895@ictv.com>
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
References: <357jik$65n@mailer.fsu.edu> <CwDtHB.tF@nexus1.oche.de>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 18:44:19 GMT
This is not entirely correct. If you extend the cable such that the signal
skew is one full cycle, the printer will work. I don't remember what the
lengths are, but they are something like 15' + (80 *n)', where n is a natural
number. I looked through my news archives and didn't see the posting where
I've seen this, but I know someone on the net has performed it.
Robert
In article <CwDtHB.tF@nexus1.oche.de>,
Michael Pieper <michael@nexus1.oche.de> wrote:
In article <357jik$65n@mailer.fsu.edu> lakanen@otto.cmr.fsu.edu
(Peter S. Lakanen) writes:
> I need a 50 foot (15 meter) cable for my NeXT B&W Printer.
>
> Does this beast exist? If so where?
======
From NeXTanswers 1289:
Q: Can the cable for the NeXT Laser Printer be extended somehow?
A: No. There will be too much signal skew.
QA433
Valid for 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1
======
Bye, Michael
--
*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
--
Robert Thille NeXTMail
robert@ictv.com OK
660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063 PGP Public Key via finger
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel-HomeBrew Mailing list
Date: 20 Sep 1994 21:48:41 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <35nlbp$9o9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
The Intel HomeBrew mailing list is used to discuss the intricacies
of building your own system to run NeXTSTEP/Intel.....
Everyone is welcome to subscribe and discuss the topic, you don't
even have have an Intel system, just an interest in the topic.
to subscribe, email to: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu
message text: sub nsfip-homebrew
Please, read the introduction letter you get when you subscribe, and
please keep it on-hand to refer to it (like how to unsubscribe), etc.
Thanks for your support.
Right now there is no FAQ or arechives, but there will be soon.
The list has been in existance for several months, but just recently I have
been able to spend time working on it.
Email me if you want to take part in our surveyu of hardware to contribute
your info about your system.
Gary Lalim
--
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please
Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list
__________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to Plato rev 10 bios problems
Message-ID: <1994Sep20.195327.29365@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <35gi30$m5k@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 19:53:27 GMT
In article <35gi30$m5k@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
writes:
> John Woodward (john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu) wrote:
>
> : Any tips?? Does anybody have Intel's customer support number and/or
> : bbs number?
>
> Intel BBS 916-356-3600
Or, you can ftp it from:
hasc.ca:/pub/premiereII/10010ax1.exe
This will get you revision 10 of the BIOS, and the only one that has
worked correctly for my system (I'm also using the #9 GXE card). I've also
included instructions as to how to recover from a dead system (which John
seems to have). Don't forget to set the motherboard BIOS recovery jumper!
- darcy
--
Hello, I saw you, I know you, I knew you, I think I can remember your name. --
REM -- Nothing wrong with dog's milk! Full of goodness, full of vitamins, full
of marrowbone jelly. -- Holly -- You spend the night, like you are spending a
dime -- Lovett -- She didn't fight it at all -- Sugar -- A shrubbery -- Python
From: sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9GXE64PRO problem
Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:12:02 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35nfmi$d83@slowhand.nmb.com>
I posted this to the next.bugs group, but figured out (later)
that this group could certainly help!
I added a #9GXE64PRO w/ 2mb of VRAM to my machine (PCI) and
wierd stuff happened.. When I selected any of the decent color
modes (800x 600, 1024 x 768) and restarted, the login window
looked wierd..About 1/3 of the screen to the left a solid black
line appears.. To the left of that line is a nice looking, crisp
1/3 of a login screen. To the right is a fuzzy looking 2/3 of the
login screen, but it is the FIRST 2/3 of the screen, the 1/3 is the
"right part of the screen". And the cursor behaves the same..move it
far left, it wraps to the right...
In greyscale, I get nothing but really fuzzy, skaky images that occur
repeatedly 5 times across the screen (ie: 5 login screens, 5 docks, etc)..
I am using a 17" ViewSonic monitor (rated to 80Hz)..
The card works very well in Windows (had to try it)..in hi-res mode..
I have version 1.03.08 on the #9 BIOS..and PTVP3025-135 RAMDAC...
The rest of the machine is a P5/90 w/ 32 MB of ram, adaptec scsi, etc.
Q#2 ) totally un-related... What is a nice SCSI TAPE drive I can use on
my machine and some good backup software...???
--
Steven J. McDowall ATT: 515 221-4286
sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com
From: mduggan@nectech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 4x CD ROMs?
Date: 20 Sep 1994 21:04:16 GMT
Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA
Message-ID: <35niog$4i9@cosmos.nectech.com>
References: <1994Sep16.144846.9341@yvax.byu.edu>
Keywords: 4x
In article <1994Sep16.144846.9341@yvax.byu.edu> writes:
> Do quad-speed cd-rom drives work with NS-I? How about the Plextor
4Plex,
> for example?
>
> Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
NEC 4X external works great.
GS Solutions Suite, Electronic App Wrapper, NeXT third party CD, Alembic,
Big Green CD.
Thanks,
Mike
From: jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr (JP NOVAK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9 (1meg) and DELL OPTIPLEX 466L in 800x600 16bits colors
Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:54:02 GMT
Organization: Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg (France)
Message-ID: <35ni5a$74i@thot.u-strasbg.fr>
Hello,
Is there anybody with experience of the Number Nine with only 1meg
(on a VESA LocalBus), a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L and NEXTSTEP ?
Does the #9 allows 16 bit colors in the 800x600 resolution ?
Any suggestions of rather cheap cards that allows 16 bit colors in
the 800x600 resolution with a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L ?
Sorry if the answers are on any FAQs but i need a very fast answer (we had
to take a decision tomorrow !)
Thanks in advance for any answer or comments.
Email : jp@axone.u-strasbg.fr
or jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Rash of problems replacing internal drives in cubes
Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:24:20 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu>
References: <354re4$n5u@knot.queensu.ca> <1994Sep14.091657.8186@free.fdn.org>
>In article <354re4$n5u@knot.queensu.ca> harrap@geol.queensu.ca (Rob
>Harrap) writes:
> Hi:
>
> I've got a new 1.05 gig IBM scsi drive (FRU PN 92FO428) that I've tried
>to put in my cube. It doens't do anything at all at first, and then when I
>try to build it I get an error on the console and the disk doesn't appear
>in the window.
>
> Anyone have any experience with these things?
I've seen a number of posts from people having similar problems with replacing
the internal drives in their cubes with something bigger. I'm having the same
problems, so I'll describe mine and then see if I can collate the common
elements.
I'm running an 030 cube with 3.2. Several weeks ago I decided to replace the
Maxtor 330 I had in there with a Seagate 11200 out of my Indigo 2. The drive
had been working well.
I could build the drive as an external, but if I tried to do it from scratch
using it internally with a cd-rom I'd build it, boot, then watch it eat
itself with a string of sense errors. I bought another 11200 just like it,
and (surprise!) it did the same thing. Both these drives seem to work okay
in the SGI.
While all this was happening I stuck a new 200 meg Maxtor in the cube. It
immediately built and worked perfectly. Arggghhhhh.
I traded the Seagate back to Andataco (they've been pretty good, btw), and
they sent me a Micropolis 4110. It built well as an external, worked
wonderfully when I plugged it internally, and did something extremely bizarre
when I booted it with any other SCSI peripheral attached: it booted great,
went all the way through checking the file system (fsck works fine) and when
it got almost up to time for the window server, I got:
Starting RPC and network services:portmapsd0 (0,0): scsi_timer:timeout
op:0x2a sd_state:7 scsi status:0x0
I think this has to be a clue. It gets most of the way through boot before
it bails.
If you're reading this and want to replace your internal drive in a cube, this
is what I think I've learned:
Set parity on, power termination resistors off the drive, don't supply 5 volts
to the SCSI bus. Note that I haven't played with master sync, which also
could be the culprit. Anyone who knows better than the above, let me know.
I've noticed a lot of people lately having similar problems. Hopefully we can
all get to the bottom of it and make these things work. Interestingly enough
the Seagate drives don't work for me on white hardware running 3.2 either, but
nfsmounting them off a networked Sparc works just fine.
Common elements so far:
small drives physically with large capacity
so far the problems have occurred mostly in cubes (although my white hardware
is an exception)
running NS (version?)
If you've had this problem, post or send mail. I'll summarize to the net.
Thanks!
Dave
From: garmstro@martin.re.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Replacement mouse for non-ADB NeXTstation
Date: 21 Sep 1994 04:14:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Rural Economy, University of Alberta.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GARMSTRO.94Sep20221448@martin.re.ualberta.ca>
Several times over the last few years, instructions on how to modify some
commonly available mouse to work with non-ADB NeXTstations have been
posted here. If anyone still has a copy of those instructions, I'd
appreciate it if they would email me a copy or repost it here. Thanks.
--glen
--
Glen W. Armstrong garmstro@re.ualberta.ca
Department of Rural Economy NeXTMail accepted here!
University of Alberta voice: (403)492-0819
Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2H1 fax: (403)492-0268
From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Date: 20 Sep 1994 21:34:20 -0500
Organization: InterAccess Co., Chicago's Best Internet Provider
Message-ID: <35o63c$rik@home.interaccess.com>
References: <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com>
In article <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote:
> ... stuff about Number Nine GXE Level 16 messing up cut...
>Is anyone successfully running the driver in *any* mode?
I never did get this driver to work, NeXT claimed only I had reported
a problem.
I have now seen quite a few people complaining about this card not
working with their drivers.
NeXT - are you reading this?
- Brian.
--
Brian Leake, Senior Software Engineer phyd@interaccess.com
Image Art "No problems... Only Solutions"
_____________________________________________________________________
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT486 on a Gateway
Date: 21 Sep 1994 00:27:33 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35ocnl$h0@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <35n603$1h0@usenet.rpi.edu>
keltym@barh1a.its.rpi.edu wrote:
: Help,
: I have a Gateway Pentium (66 MHz) with a Viper PCI Graphics Card, a
: Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, and a 3-COM Etherlink III card. Is it possible to
: install NeXT on my computer?
The Viper is supported, but the Mitsumi CD-ROM is proprietary, and will
not work. You'll need a SCSI CD-ROM drive, and a supported SCSI
controller. I don't know about the 3com card.
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AST Premmia GXP/90 - HP Vectra XU 5/90C work with NS3.2?
Date: 21 Sep 1994 04:35:56 GMT
Organization: RGNET
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35od7c$moo@pop0.rain.rg.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anyone installed NS 3.2 on either of these new Pentium systems?
AST Premmia GXP/90 - HP Vectra XU 5/90C. If so could you send to me the
exact configuration.
Thanks
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
From: mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: The Music Kit on a PC
Date: 21 Sep 1994 01:26:03 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <940921152219.307AACUF.mmalc@hotaru>
References: <9409210607.AA07638@rain.org>
> What is c.s.n.software?
>
The comp.sys.next.software newsgroup.
> Is there an FTP site where I can get this music kit??
>
Yes:
ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu
Look in /pub/NeXT/MusicKit
Possibly other places as well.
What would be really good would be if Ensuing would repress their Fatted Calf
CD to include this new version. That would make it worth $30 alone!
Have fun,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: #9 (1meg) and DELL OPTIPLEX 466L in 800x600 16bits colors
Message-ID: <CwGv1v.KoG@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <35ni5a$74i@thot.u-strasbg.fr>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 06:22:42 GMT
JP NOVAK (jp@ia5.u-strasbg.fr) wrote:
: Is there anybody with experience of the Number Nine with only 1meg
: (on a VESA LocalBus), a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L and NEXTSTEP ?
: Does the #9 allows 16 bit colors in the 800x600 resolution ?
: Any suggestions of rather cheap cards that allows 16 bit colors in
: the 800x600 resolution with a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L ?
You need 2M for 800x600x2. You have enough for 640x480x2.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Talus Wacom Tablet Driver Keystring! Help!
Message-ID: <schwettCwGttr.I1w@netcom.com>
Summary: need keystring for "free" Talus Wacom Tablet Drivere
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 05:56:15 GMT
Hi!
I recently grabbed the Talus Wacom Tablet Driver from cs.orst, but
unfortunately they did not include a registration key string.
I called them, and they were extremeley busy and couldn't get me the
number at the time... the driver is free, so if anyone has the number
hanging around, I'd really appreciate it!
(it's not machine specific, it it???)
Thanks!
Mark Schwettmann
--
schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu
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From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Formatting a new HD on black hardware???
Date: 21 Sep 1994 00:17:41 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <35oj65$4a0g@argo.unm.edu>
References: <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
Victor White <v_white@ece.wisc.edu> wrote:
>I picked up an unformatted micropolis 4110 1 Gig HD, (usual trade-off,
>good price, little support) and have set the terminators so that I can
>boot off of my other hard drive with no offending errors.
>
>But when I boot the cube, I get no recognition of the new hard drive.
>It's as if it's not there.
I've got the same drive and have gotten as far as getting it to boot with
nothing else on the SCSI bus, but when I add something, anything at all, I
get a timeout 3/4 of the way through the boot. Unfortunately, I want my
drive to be drive 0.
You should essentially have nothing installed on the end except your SCSI id.
Also, you might put a jumper on W2. I don't have motor enable jumpered, and
my drive works pretty well externally.
>
>I set it to SCSI ID 4, put a /dev/ entry in my fstab, but when I
>boot it spins up, LEDs flicker saying it is working, but it
>doesn't come to life.
>
>I called the tech support people where I bought it from, and they said I
>need to do a low level format first. But how?
Don't do a low level format unless you absolutely have to. You shouldn't
have to do one at all, but if it turns out you do, the easiest way is
"disk." The device name for disk depends on what device number your
system assigns.
I'm curious. Where'd you get the fstab, and do you know something that
I don't? I sorta think I might need a new fstab. Where'd you get
yours?
Check during boot to see whether the system sees the drive. It'll come up
with a drive label after it loads sdmach() off of drive 0.
Assuming it's there, get into Builddisk by logging in as root and looking
in the NextAdmin directory. Builddisk will load up the drive as if it's
brand new and you'd like to boot off of it. If this isn't the case just
deselect the files you'd rather not have on the new disk.
When Builddisk is done, your drive will have a nice new BSD 4.3 file system.
You can mount it then, or reboot the system and it will appear.
Good luck! I hope at least some of that advice was useful!
Dave>
>
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Boot failure
Date: 21 Sep 1994 00:20:43 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <35ojbr$4cla@argo.unm.edu>
References: <34nvhc$eat@clarknet.clark.net>
In article <34nvhc$eat@clarknet.clark.net>,
Harrison Consulting <harrison@clark.net> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
> When booting an ancient cube (030 motherboard) I get the message:
>sc: software error
>repeatedly before and during the time when it tries to find the SCSI
>devices. This happens until I decide to try to reboot or shut the
>machine off.
>
> Does anyone know what the problem is and how to correct it?
>
What kind of SCSI devices do you have on the system?
Have you got the original drive inside? I've gotten that error before, and
it usually means I've screwed up the termination or addressing.
Dave
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Canon BJ4000 driver
Date: 21 Sep 1994 07:46:48 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35ood8$j04@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Hello
I`m looking for a driver for the BJ4000 (color) Canon-printer.
Thanks for any help
Oli
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Rash of problems replacing internal drives in cubes
Date: 21 Sep 1994 07:54:23 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <35oorf$sk9@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu>
In article <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy"
Klingler) writes:
. munch ..
&I've seen a number of posts from people having similar problems with replacing
&the internal drives in their cubes with something bigger. I'm having the same
&problems, so I'll describe mine and then see if I can collate the common
&elements.
.. crunch ..
&If you're reading this and want to replace your internal drive in a cube, this
&is what I think I've learned:
&
&Set parity on, power termination resistors off the drive, don't supply 5 volts
&to the SCSI bus. Note that I haven't played with master sync, which also
&could be the culprit. Anyone who knows better than the above, let me know.
&
&I've noticed a lot of people lately having similar problems. Hopefully we can
&all get to the bottom of it and make these things work. Interestingly enough
&the Seagate drives don't work for me on white hardware running 3.2 either, but
&nfsmounting them off a networked Sparc works just fine.
Now this post commented on black hardware 'cubes'. I'm not sure if this
is in the FAQ or not (darn well should be there by now it's asked enough,
or is the culprit in many problems). On black hardware the boot drive
must be set to asyncronous transfers. I've actually succeeded in formatting
a external drive that was set to syncronous, but errors would creep in,
and that drive would definately not boot the system (I don't remember error
off the top of my head).
I have no doubt that other things could creep in, like block size perhaps,
and certianly disk size (> 2G/partition is not supported (must multi
partition drives > 2G)), and no doubt other things (When will NeXT finally
give us SCSI-II drivers for our black hardware!!!!) could contribute
(termination!). But if your having a problem with making a HD a boot disk
that hasn't been in a cube before the look FIRST to the sync, then other
more innocous things.
Good luck,
Randy
From: csilva@cs.sunysb.edu (Claudio Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro *Turbo* -- VLB driver available ?
Date: 21 Sep 1994 12:26:06 GMT
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Message-ID: <35p8ou$ibd@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
I am looking for an ATI Ultra Pro *Turbo* VLB (Local Bus) driver, or,
if one is not available, on information on how to write one. Will one
be availale in the soon to be released NS 3.3 ?
If you need a beta tester for your driver, I would gladly be one too.
Or if somebody has the programming docs for this card, could you
please send me mail how to get it ?
Thanks a lot,
Claudio. (claudio@cs.sunysb.edu)
Visualization Lab
Department of Computer Science
State University of New York at Stony Brook
From: roffel@biw.cube.de (Lee Roffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has my HP 712 disk gone bad ? SCSI reference ?
Date: 21 Sep 1994 12:11:06 GMT
Organization: biw
Message-ID: <35p7sq$u0@next01.biw.cube.de>
References: <Cw8B82.Cw0@cup.hp.com>
In article <Cw8B82.Cw0@cup.hp.com> dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave
Waller) writes:
> In article <35ab1i$srg@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>, buster@spot.Colorado.EDU
(Paul Buster) writes:
> |> while installing NS 3.2 on a 712/60, numerous messages like this pop
up:
> |>
> |> Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: SCSI: id: 0013d1, lbolt: 0, bp: 3152058,
> |> dev: e30, dev_type: (00) Direct Access, ansi: 2, rdf: 2, tag:
7e,
> |> Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: cdb: 28 00 00 07 4b 90 00 00 10 00
> |> Sep 13 10:07:17 madmax mach: opcode: (28) bcount: 2000, addr:
12ae0,
> |> residual: 1,
> |>
> |> can anyone tell me what's going on here ?
> |>
<<<<<<<>
> Hi Paul,
>
> There is a known firmware problem with the 1GB Quantum LPS1080S drive
that
> causes NS to barf. HP uses 1GB discs from 3 suppliers, the disc cited
above
> being one of them.
<<<<<<<<<<
We have a gecko (actually 3) with a Quantum 500MB disks, and up until
today we also had various similar error messages.. (all day long) ...
.. and the fix that works here is to plug in an external Terminated SCSI
cable. No more error messages during boot... and no more on-going errors
during the day.
This is not official... but it works for me...
ciao...
.. Lee
--
Lee Roffel
biw GmbH /| /eXTMail: roffel@biw.cube.de
Werkstrasse 24 / | / Tel: +49 7151 602 204
D-71384 Weinstadt-Endersbach / |/ Fax: +49 7151 602 100
Germany
From: cmc@ltp.bcm.tmc.edu (Costa Colbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MO's for NextStep
Date: 21 Sep 1994 13:48:39 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35pdjn$qlv@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
We are looking for a 1.3G optical drive that will work with both black and
white hardware.
I've heard the Tahoe's don't work.
Anyone have any luck with the Sony drives? is there a FAQ ?
Costa Colbert
cmc@bcm.tmc.edu
Div of Neuroscience
Baylor College of Medicine
From: sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI TAPE DRIVES
Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:01:42 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35pec6$8e6@slowhand.nmb.com>
It seems that this part of my previous message was ignored ...
(Probably lost in the shuffle w/ the #9 problem)
Can anyone recommend a nice / decent DAT 4mm drive and
software that works on my ADAPTEC 1542CF, NeXT Intel
machine?? My old tape died and am looking for a new one..
Thanks!
--
Steven J. McDowall ATT: 515 221-4286
sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: long printer cord???
Message-ID: <CwH3Iu.94@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Sep20.184419.20895@ictv.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 09:25:41 GMT
Here you go :
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Path:
balu.hnv.icem.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!uknet!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.
edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!angst!dylan
From: dylan@Angst.COM (Dylan Kohler)
Subject: Re: Longest NeXT Laser Printer Cable (long)
Message-ID: <1993Oct2.020713.5055@Angst.COM>
Sender: dylan@Angst.COM
Reply-To: dylan@Angst.COM
Organization: Angst Animation Post Production
References: <28homr$7sb@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 02:07:13 GMT
Lines: 168
In article <28homr$7sb@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C.
Daugherity) writes:
> | In article <1993Sep29.032602.7487@hot.com>, Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
writes:
> | > Is it possible to get a longer NeXT laser printer cable?
>
> The standard NeXT printer cable is about 10 feet long. There was a post
> a year or two ago (which I didn't save) from someone who had
> successfully extended one.
>
> As I recall he said NeXT used the signal propagation delay for timing so
> a longer cable had to be just exactly the right length (75 feet???) so
> that signals would sync on the next clock pulse.
>
> Maybe someone who saved the post can repost it, or maybe you can find it
> in an archive. Good luck!
I asked the same question and in one response got this bit of urban
folklore. If you succeed, let us know!
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 92 00:39:12 PDT
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
To: tgr@trans.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: longer printer cable
Cc: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
In comp.sys.next.hardware article
<1992Sep16.215632.26112@news.csuohio.edu> you wrote:
>We have 2 NeXTs here and one has a NeXT laser printer attached. We have
>them configured so both computers can share the printer. Here is the
>problem:
>
>The printer is in the directors office and we would like it outside of
his
>office to eliminate any disturbances. So I call NeXT support to get the
>specs on the cable so I can have a custom cable made. They tell me it
>will not work and can not be longer than the supplied cable.
>
>So if anyone out there is using a longer cable on their NeXT printer,
>please drop a not to me to verify that it does work.
>
>Thanks,
> Wayne
>
Yes, I heard that you can use a longer cable but it has to be
really long like 80feet.
Officially, NeXT says you can't, but apparently it is possible.
You have to make your own cable. Read on.
---
Izumi Ohzawa [ Bg_78^=; ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
=============== Here's an old posting about this ===============
[Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Path:
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lumbia.edu!src.honeywell.com!umn.edu!ux.acs.umn.edu!bru!newsman
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Subject: Re: Printer cable length....
Message-ID: <1992May15.150332.4258@bmw.mayo.edu>
Sender: newsman@bmw.mayo.edu (/home/bmw/usenet)
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
References: <78062@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 May 92 15:03:32 GMT
Lines: 76
In article <78062@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu
(David
Anstine) writes:
> How long can the cable be? Can I use an amplifier to make it longer?
>
> -dave
It can be multiples of 80, plus 15 feet, if you use coax (see below)
this was a suggestion that is NOT SUPPORTED IN ANY WAY BY NEXT!!!
I received this from a NeXT SE, and am forwarding it to the net without
permission. Sounded good. If the original author sees this, he can
respond if he wants...
- Geoff
------------------------------------------------------------
You know how the official party line is that you can't make a longer NeXT
printer cable?
An engineer I knew at <name deleted> University didn't buy this story and
has
successfully made an 80-foot long printer cable.
Here's some email he sent me about what was involved.
From: <name deleted>
To: name_deleted@NeXT.COM
Subject: Re: lengthening a NeXT printer cable
I made a cable using seperate coaxs for each signal. It
works fine, except that when the printer runs out of paper, putting in
more paper does not get the printer printing again. <name deleted> found
that
he had to turn the printer off using the soft window, and then it
starting printing again.
As far as signal skew goes, there should be no problem with data going
to the printer, since the CPU provides data and data clock. However, the
return data may be suffering skew problems. One solution, is to
adjust the length of the cable so the return data is skewed by exact
one clock cycle. I will try this sometime and let you know how it
works.
<name deleted>
From: <name deleted>
To: <name deleted>@NeXT.COM
Subject: Re: lengthening a NeXT printer cable
Hi again, Steve:
I measured the delay with the oscilloscope and found that that I made
the cable a poor length for skew. I added enough cable to the return
data line so that the cable is now equal to 80 feet in length. This
adjusted the skew for the return data one full clock cycle. <name
deleted> and
I tested to see if the running the printer out of paper still caused a
problem. We found that the problem is fixed.
So, the moral to this story is to make long cables multiples of 80
feet (for 81% c coax). The cable can be slightly longer that 80 feet but
not by more than 15 feet. The cable can not be shorter that 80 feet.
These cable length should work:
0 to 15 feet
80 to 95
160 to 175
240 to 255
Of course the lengths will have to be adjusted for the velocity factor
if it is different than 81 percent. Mabey, Next can make a special cable
and sell it!
<name deleted>
---------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst, RCF brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905 USA fax (507) 284-5231
[izumi@pinoko:+/NeXT-announce.nfold] %
================== end quote =====================
--
___________________________________
Dylan Kohler
Angst Animation Post Production
dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)
Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Upgrade to Plato rev 10 bios problems
Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:38:12 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <35pggk$1e9a@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>
References: <35gi30$m5k@anshar.shadow.net> <1994Sep20.195327.29365@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
I want to thank all who responded (Darcy, Jay, Steve, Eric, ...
and others I may have missed in this list).
Indeed, I have recovered from the botched bios upgrade on the
Plato motherboard. As it turns out, the rev 10 bios picks up a
hardware problem that the earlier revisions don't seem to catch
(but the problems are evident when you run).
Now I just have to convince Zenon to swap the board.
Again, thanks everyone!
john
--
john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: garmstro@martin.re.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Replacement mouse for non-ADB NeXTstation
Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:52:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Rural Economy, University of Alberta.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GARMSTRO.94Sep21085204@martin.re.ualberta.ca>
References: <GARMSTRO.94Sep20221448@martin.re.ualberta.ca>
In-reply-to: garmstro@martin.re.ualberta.ca's message of 21 Sep 1994 04:14:47 GMT
Hiroshi Takahashi pointed me to
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/documents/LogitechTrackManTrackballReplacement.ps.gz
That appears to be the document I was looking for.
--
Glen W. Armstrong garmstro@re.ualberta.ca
Department of Rural Economy NeXTMail accepted here!
University of Alberta voice: (403)492-0819
Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2H1 fax: (403)492-0268
From: mduggan@nectech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables?
Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:53:17 GMT
Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA
Message-ID: <35phct$oo0@cosmos.nectech.com>
References: <940919095320.5154AACUG.mmalc@hotaru>
In article <940919095320.5154AACUG.mmalc@hotaru> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp
(mmalcolm Crawford) writes:
> > Can any one recommend a good (or bad) portable known to work with
> > NeXTStep/intel. I am look for one in the 100Mhz 486 range. I would
like one
> > with a SCSI controller.
New Versa-N has a 800x600 color active matrix screen! Built-in audio,
removeable floppy for a second battery, removeable screen for pen/touch
upgrade or tablet position.
Call 1-800-nec-info.
Also NEC Versa E has color support 640x480x8bit color NS 3.3,
640x480x16bit color NS 3.2, and 1024x768x8bitCOLOR using external monitor
with NS 3.3 driver. Also has POWER SAVER uunder NS 3.3, and PCMCIA support
under NS 3.3.
From: dsinn@chinook.halcyon.com (F. David Sinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Formatting a new HD on black hardware???
Date: 21 Sep 1994 15:00:37 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Message-ID: <35phql$n2t@news.halcyon.com>
References: <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu> <35oj65$4a0g@argo.unm.edu>
Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler (klingler@unm.edu) wrote:
: In article <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
: Victor White <v_white@ece.wisc.edu> wrote:
: Don't do a low level format unless you absolutely have to. You shouldn't
: have to do one at all, but if it turns out you do, the easiest way is
: "disk." The device name for disk depends on what device number your
: system assigns.
FYI "/usr/etc/disk" is NOT a low level formater. It is a high level
formater.
I've only used "disk" to format my drives, and I've had no trouble. Though
if you want it to be a boot drive, you need to specificy it when you do
the format.
David Sinn
dsinn@halcyon.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harv@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Harvey C. Dueck)
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Message-ID: <1994Sep21.163302.2329@narwal.ali.bc.ca>
Organization: A.L.I. Technologies
References: <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com> <35o63c$rik@home.interaccess.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:33:02 GMT
phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) writes:
>In article <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote:
>> ... stuff about Number Nine GXE Level 16 messing up cut...
>>Is anyone successfully running the driver in *any* mode?
>I never did get this driver to work, NeXT claimed only I had reported
>a problem.
>I have now seen quite a few people complaining about this card not
>working with their drivers.
>NeXT - are you reading this?
>- Brian.
We have run the Number Nine GXE in a DEC XL chassis with no problems.
A plus for the Number Nine was that it could be put into 24 bit mode
just by reconfiguring the driver, whereas to reconfigure the Diamond
Stealth we had to run an awkward DOS configuration utility before it
would work. Unfortunately, neither card does better than 864x1152
resolution in 24 bit mode :-(. We've been running 1200x1600 by 24 bits
with a home-grown driver for an EISA card. The PCI boards are much
faster, but we really need a minimum of 1024x1280x24bits.
- harv
--
Harvey C. Dueck A.L.I. Technologies Ltd.
harv@ali.bc.ca 95-10551 Shellbridge Way
Phone: (604) 279-5422 Ext. 314 Richmond, British Columbia
FAX: (604) 279-5468 V6X 2W9
From: dhsmith@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 274x/284x beta driver available on NeXTanswers
Date: 21 Sep 1994 17:22:55 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35pq5f$m5@rosie.next.com>
The new Adaptec 274x/284x beta driver is now available via
NeXTanswers. This device driver supports the Adaptec 274x series
of EISA adapters (which replaces the Adaptec174x EISA SCSI
adapters) as well as the 284x series of VL SCSI adapters.
The files can be found in Files/Drivers/3.2_Beta_Drivers on the
ftp site (ftp.next.com), or by requesting NeXTanswers #'s 1691
(compressed driver) and 1692 (README).
I will be posting more information on drivers to this newsgroup
later this week or early next.
Darren
From: otto@rumba.ECE.ORST.EDU (Otto A. Gygax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro: stuck at lower resolution
Date: 21 Sep 1994 18:26:51 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Message-ID: <35pttb$30s@engr.orst.edu>
Keywords: ATI, graphics, drivers
I have purchased several ATI Ultra Pro's with 2mB of DRAM. They are
supported by the ATI driver that comes with NS3.2. However, just
recently noticed that they are working at a low resolution (looks like
800x600) and can't go up to the desired 1024x768 which the monitor also
supports.
After talking to ATI themselves, I managed to run their configuration
program to make the cards switch up to higher resolutions to no avail.
NS just can't get them to switch.
"Failed to match mode. Using Default mode"
I know they do it because I also have two other machines with the same
card that give me a good 1024x768 res. on their 15" monitor.
Are there slightly different versions of the drivers? Or am I missing
something?
Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Otto Gygax, System Administrator/Instructor
Oregon State University
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT CD ROM Drives with Intel Machines?
Date: 21 Sep 1994 19:16:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <35q0qo$jqf@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <35armc$7at@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <35g9nl$eb7@uuneo.neosoft.com>
In article <35g9nl$eb7@uuneo.neosoft.com>,
Dan Logue <dlogue@starbase.neosoft.com> wrote:
>Gregory B Howland (gregory@nukestep.mit.edu) wrote:
>: Will NeXT CD ROM drives work with Intel based machines?
>Absolutely. I installed my NeXTSTEP system using a NeXT CD
>ROM from an original NeXT machine with an Adaptec 1542C SCSI
>controller card. (Note: the NeXT CD ROM is slow, single speed)
Or...
Absolutely not. I tried to connect my NeXT CD ROM drive to my new pc and it
did not work (in fact, the drive brought down the whole chain). This is using
an NCR PCI SCSI card.
WHITE HARDWARE BITES!!!
Kurt
From: Frederick_Haibach@brown.edu (Fred Haibach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is this a FAQ question? Installing new internal drive on slab.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 21 Sep 1994 19:55:55 GMT
Organization: Dept of Chemistry/Brown University
Message-ID: <Frederick_Haibach-210994155653@dollmac.chem.brown.edu>
Hi,
I'm planning on installing an internal Quantum Empire 1080 on a NeXTstation
as a replacement for the original Quantum LP105S.
This will be the first time I've cracked the case on this machine, so any
advice
will be accepted with glee.
I suppose the following questions may be important to show my ignorance.
How do I install it? (It should be simple, drop the new one in, change the
SCSI
ID and attach the cables)
How do I format it as a boot disk?
I do have the CD-ROM drive with v NS 3.0 and the machine is on the net
right now.
Thanks,
FgH...
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Rash of problems replacing internal drives in cubes
Date: 21 Sep 1994 13:30:41 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <35q1l1$2oo5@indus.unm.edu>
References: <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu> <35oorf$sk9@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
In article <35oorf$sk9@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, <rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu> wrote:
>In article <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy"
>Klingler) writes:
(a bunch of stuff)
>must be set to asyncronous transfers. I've actually succeeded in formatting
>a external drive that was set to syncronous, but errors would creep in,
>and that drive would definately not boot the system (I don't remember error
>off the top of my head).
That might be my problem, if the drives come set to default to synchronous
transfers. With both the Seagates and the Micropolis I was able to initialize
the drive externally, but once I connected other devices I got various errors.
The errors were somewhat different, but that might not mean anything.
Also, would the sync/async symptoms stretch to NS 3.2 on white hardware
(running on an Adaptec 1540) for the Seagates, as well? I don't yet know
much about sync/async on SCSI; 'guess I'll have to read up again.
I had wondered if the default drive device entry that NS uses in lieu of an
ftab entry didn't work for some modern drives such as the 11200 or 4110.
The sync/async jumper would certainly be an easier explanation to swallow.
>partition drives > 2G)), and no doubt other things (When will NeXT finally
>give us SCSI-II drivers for our black hardware!!!!) could contribute
>(termination!). But if your having a problem with making a HD a boot disk
>that hasn't been in a cube before the look FIRST to the sync, then other
>more innocous things.
Can one trust Builddisk to correctly optimize the block size? I thought it
looked okay.
Thanks,
Dave
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: disktab entry
Date: 21 Sep 1994 20:36:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <35q5fp$m7u@news.service.uci.edu>
I need a disktab entry for a Maxtor XP-12S "Panther". This is a 1 gig
drive, but NS thinks it's about 3Meg...
Any Maxtor disktabs would help...
Thanks,
Kurt
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables? (Vapor)
Date: 21 Sep 1994 21:12:49 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35q7kh$j2g@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <35phct$oo0@cosmos.nectech.com>
In article <35phct$oo0@cosmos.nectech.com> mduggan@nectech.com writes:
> In article <940919095320.5154AACUG.mmalc@hotaru> mmalc@hip.atr.co.jp
> (mmalcolm Crawford) writes:
> > > Can any one recommend a good (or bad) portable known to work with
> > > NeXTStep/intel. I am look for one in the 100Mhz 486 range. I would
> like one
> > > with a SCSI controller.
(Malcolm's post about our laptop deleted :-)
> New Versa-N has a 800x600 color active matrix screen! Built-in audio,
> removeable floppy for a second battery, removeable screen for pen/touch
> upgrade or tablet position.
>
> Call 1-800-nec-info.
>
> Also NEC Versa E has color support 640x480x8bit color NS 3.3,
> 640x480x16bit color NS 3.2, and 1024x768x8bitCOLOR using external
monitor
> with NS 3.3 driver. Also has POWER SAVER uunder NS 3.3, and PCMCIA
support
> under NS 3.3.
Hmmm..."New" is an _interesting_ description of the Versa-N. I called the
800 number and they insisted that they had ever heard of a Versa-N and
that what I read must have been a "typo". They were vaguely familiar with
the fact that NEC would be coming out with an 800x600 screen "in the
future". I asked if they had any idea when I could get my hands on one
and she told me that they'd be showing them at Comdex....in
mid-November...and I should be able to get one around that time.
Well, you may be able to buy one in a few months, but will you be able to
run NS on it? Since this is an 8-bit monitor it won't be operable until
the "New" version of NEXTSTEP 3.3, which will support 8-bit, becomes a
_shipping_ product....it looks like they're both vapor at this point. None
of the drivers have been written for the new Versa-N monitor, PCMCIA or
power saving features as yet, because the driver kit for 3.3 isn't
available yet. (Talus' official odds-maker, "Nick the Geek", is giving big
odds against a 3.3 delivery prior to 1995)
Yes, Talus will have an 800x600 too. The difference is that we won't
announce it till it's shipping :-)
Steven the Terrible
From: wehmeier@acf4.nyu.edu (wehmeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: help! slab won't power down.
Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:53:14 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <35phcq$4d@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Summary: slab won't power down
Keywords: nextstation
I suspect this has come up before, but...
my nexstation won't power off after a shutdown from
the keyboard, but reboots immediately. sometimes after
trying this three times in a row it eventually shuts
down. how to fix this?
ps. i just upgraded the eeprom, so maybe there are some
nvram settings i don't know about?
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Rash of problems replacing internal drives in cubes
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:28:33 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0iU_K1m00iV5Q9B4Ja@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <35q1l1$2oo5@indus.unm.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 21-Sep-94 Re: Rash of
problems replac.. by Dave C. B. Klingler@unm.
> Can one trust Builddisk to correctly optimize the block size? I thought it
> looked okay.
No, BuildDisk.app doesn't do anything at all with the block size. You
need to use something like sdformat (from the archives) which will issue
the appropriate SCSI mode select command to change the blocksize.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 50 mhz '040 Accelerator Board Update
Date: 21 Sep 1994 18:27:39 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <35ptur$8fl@nntp.crl.com>
I'm please to report that we've completed an initial set of benchmarks on
the 50 mhz accelerator board for black hardware. It is fully compatible
with every application we've tested, and gives an average performance
increase over the 33 mhz Turbo board of 25-30%. We'll be benchmarking
it against the 25 mhz board tomorrow, and will be posting the results
to the net, and making them available on a WWW site as well.
The tentative name for this creature is "Pyro" (as in Turbo-->Nitro-->
Pyro). It is, btw, faster than a Nitro.
The tests were performed by Dan Kehoe, former contributing editor to
NeXT World magazine.
Price and availability are not yet set, but will be posted as well.
Thank you for your continuing interest.
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Rash of problems replacing internal drives in cubes
Date: 21 Sep 1994 18:31:55 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <35pu6r$8qq@nntp.crl.com>
References: <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu>
In article <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
writes:
<description of problems with Seagate drives deleted>
Proposed solution:
> Set parity on, power termination resistors off the drive, don't supply 5 volts
> to the SCSI bus. Note that I haven't played with master sync, which also
> could be the culprit. Anyone who knows better than the above, let me know.
>
Parity must be *off*; you can supply power to the SCSI bus as well as the terminator.
Make sure to turn synchronous data transfer (SDTR) off as well. I have yet to find a
drive that doesn't work in this configuration, with the exception of some early
Micropolis 1 giggers that require a different ROM.
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro *Turbo* -- VLB driver available ?
Date: 21 Sep 1994 21:07:36 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <35qlco$mmc@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <35p8ou$ibd@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
Claudio Silva (csilva@cs.sunysb.edu) wrote:
: I am looking for an ATI Ultra Pro *Turbo* VLB (Local Bus) driver, or,
: if one is not available, on information on how to write one. Will one
: be availale in the soon to be released NS 3.3 ?
The GPT driver is available now from Talus (info@talus.com). It will also
be a part of 3.3 (or so I've been led to believe).
- Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: US Robotics modem NIGHTMARES with NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CwIBwt.nM@fragile.termfrost.org>
Keywords: USRobotics modem motorola slip tip ppp
Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH
References: <35mt8m$n7f@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 01:24:29 GMT
ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) writes:
>Does anyone out there use a US Robotics Sportster modem with Motorola
>hardware to dial out and connect to remote systems using tip, SLIP, or
>PPP? If you do PLEASE advise.
>I have been trying on and off all summer long to get my modem to work with
>my 040 cube. So far I haven't gotten it to do zip. The modem works
>perfectly fine under DOS/Windoze (both terminal vt100 connection and SLIP)
>when connected to my PC.
Sorry if this is something obvious, but make sure the cable you're using
on the NeXT has hardware flow control lines enabled. I've run SLIP and PPP
from my black slab using both a Sportster and a Courier with no problems.
I may even have a working /etc/remote setup, but I've been using Kermit
instead of tip, cu, or any of that stuff. I think it worked on TipTop too,
but I KNOW Kermit works.
Having no hardware flow control could cause all sorts of fun and mysterious
things to happen.... A lot of Mac cables _won't_ work, I hear (?)
OK, I just looked at my /etc/remote, and tho I haven't used it in eons, it's
basically this:
dial38400|38400 Baud Hayes attributes:\
:dv=/dev/cufa:br#38400:at=hayes:du:
(should be just like the existing dial1200 entry)
then further down:
wittenberg:pa=none:pn=000-0000:tc=dial38400:
(substitute the actual phone number in, of course. pa=none forces 8 bit mode.)
If that dosen't work, well.... what I've been doing is using Kermit, and
doing
C-Kermit> set line /dev/cufa
C-Kermit> set speed 38400
C-Kermit> c
then just feeding in the ATDT 000-0000 by hand.
--
Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@wittenberg.edu
"To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 (1meg) and DELL OPTIPLEX 466L in 800x600 16bits colors
Date: 22 Sep 1994 04:38:50 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35r1oq$cbf@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <CwGv1v.KoG@eskimo.com>
In article <CwGv1v.KoG@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
> : Is there anybody with experience of the Number Nine with only 1meg
> : (on a VESA LocalBus), a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L and NEXTSTEP ?
> : Does the #9 allows 16 bit colors in the 800x600 resolution ?
> : Any suggestions of rather cheap cards that allows 16 bit colors in
> : the 800x600 resolution with a DELL OPTIPLEX 466L ?
>
> You need 2M for 800x600x2. You have enough for 640x480x2.
Incorrect. Where are you getting those numbers from?
1 MB VRAM should be enough for:
16-bit color (800x600x16) / 8 = 960000
8-bit greyscale (1120x832x8) / 8 = 931840
8-bit greyscale (1024x768x8) / 8 = 786432
8-bit greyscale (800x600x8) / 8 = 480000
8-bit color (3.3) (1120x832x8) / 8 = 931840
8-bit color (3.3) (1024x768x8) / 8 = 786432
8-bit color (3.3) (800x600x8) / 8 = 480000
On some cards, such as the S928 card in our DEC MTE, the VRAM
is accessed in a poor way that requires more than 1 MB for
any 16-bit color mode.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 04:46:06 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35r26e$che@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <1994Sep21.163302.2329@narwal.ali.bc.ca>
In article <1994Sep21.163302.2329@narwal.ali.bc.ca> harv@narwal.ali.bc.ca
(Harvey C. Dueck) writes:
-> ...Unfortunately, neither card does better than 864x1152
-> resolution in 24 bit mode :-(. We've been running 1200x1600 by 24 bits
-> with a home-grown driver for an EISA card. The PCI boards are much
-> faster, but we really need a minimum of 1024x1280x24bits.
Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
VRAM...?
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Internal Modems with white?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 05:02:02 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Message-ID: <35r34a$kbe@pith.uoregon.edu>
Is there any way to make internal modems work with NS/FIP?
I have considered buying one since I'm going to upgrade to 14.4 or
28.8, but I balked at an internal since I could really think of a way
that I could configure my machine to recognize it (a DX2/66 running 3.2)
Nick Fogelson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Message-ID: <CwIGvq.L0H@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com> <35o63c$rik@home.interaccess.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 03:11:49 GMT
Brian Leake (phyd@interaccess.com) wrote:
: In article <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote:
: > ... stuff about Number Nine GXE Level 16 messing up cut...
: >Is anyone successfully running the driver in *any* mode?
: I never did get this driver to work, NeXT claimed only I had reported
: a problem.
: I have now seen quite a few people complaining about this card not
: working with their drivers.
: NeXT - are you reading this?
Hi, Brian:
With a little bit of luck, and *lots* of patience, I managed to
resolve the problem. The BETA driver must *coexist* with the Default
VGA driver. Just set the port and memory addresses so that neither
one conflicts with the other. I reported the blatant documentation
mis-statement to bug_next@next.com and received a robot response; so I
don't think that they are aware of the problem yet. A correction
needs to be made to that document, so that new users won't get
discouraged trying to set up these wonderful cards.
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Rash of problems replacing internal drives in cubes
Message-ID: <CwIJEo.1AI@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <354re4$n5u@knot.queensu.ca> <1994Sep14.091657.8186@free.fdn.org> <35nnek$1vam@capella.unm.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 04:06:23 GMT
Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler (klingler@unm.edu) wrote:
: Set parity on, power termination resistors off the drive, don't supply 5 volts
: to the SCSI bus. Note that I haven't played with master sync, which also
: could be the culprit. Anyone who knows better than the above, let me know.
In order to install NS on my white hardware's Micropolis 2217 via
BusLogic 747S, I must disable RAM caching(both internal and external);
then all goes well. I have swapped my hard drive and CD-ROM(and thus
their termination), selecting host interrupt request level(as opposed
to edge), spindle motor starts, as well as delay between consecutive
I/O oprations; but to no avail(and usually getting locked up); the
root cause seems to be caching. I just don't know the concepts well
enough. <:-( I'm not sure I fully understand slave/master sync
termination. I *do* know that I fair much better if I terminate my
CD-ROM instead of my Micropolis; go figure!
: I've noticed a lot of people lately having similar problems. Hopefully we can
: all get to the bottom of it and make these things work.
The level of discourse we're seeing should give us *some* hope.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | Dropping DOS for NextStep ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Ultimately in search of fine object-oriented tools ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: High-res 24 bit color boards (Was: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA...)
Message-ID: <bchin.780213129@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <Cw4HFC.B6t@eskimo.com> <35o63c$rik@home.interaccess.com> <1994Sep21.163302.2329@narwal.ali.bc.ca>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 05:52:09 GMT
harv@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Harvey C. Dueck) writes:
>Unfortunately, neither card does better than 864x1152
>resolution in 24 bit mode :-(. We've been running 1200x1600 by 24 bits
>with a home-grown driver for an EISA card. The PCI boards are much
>faster, but we really need a minimum of 1024x1280x24bits.
The JCIS 4mb P9100 PCI card will do 1280x1024 @ 24 bit with the
200mhz RAMDAC option. I think Elsa also offers a 200mhz RAMDAC
option on one of their 4mb cards. For 1600x1200 @ 24 bit color,
your talking almost 6mb of VRAM... I don't know of any NEXTSTEP
supported cards with that much VRAM; the only boards I know of with
this much VRAM are older TI coprocessed boards - the antithesis
of speed for NEXTSTEP's Display Postscript video in its current
non-NeXTdimension implementation.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: btl@hogpf.ho.att.com (-B.LING)
Subject: Re: disktab entry
Message-ID: <CwJ28o.9z0@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Summary: sun master format.dat
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T
References: <35q5fp$m7u@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:53:12 GMT
In article <35q5fp$m7u@news.service.uci.edu>,
Richard Myers <rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu> wrote:
->I need a disktab entry for a Maxtor XP-12S "Panther". This is a 1 gig
->drive, but NS thinks it's about 3Meg...
->Any Maxtor disktabs would help...
->Thanks,
->Kurt
i picked this one off up comp.sys.sun.admin.
From: jdd@cdf.toronto.edu (John DiMarco)
Subject: Master Sun format.dat
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 04:40:16 GMT
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# $Id: format.dat,v 1.85 1994/09/09 01:28:15 jdd Exp $
#
# Maintained by John DiMarco (jdd@cdf.toronto.edu)
# University of Toronto, CDF
#
# based on one dated October 5, 1992 by George Neville-Neil DEC WSL
# (gnn@cs.berkeley.edu)
#
# This file was built using a base format.dat file and added to using
# format.dat entries mailed in from various people on the Internet.
#
# DISCLAIMER: This is provided as a public service to sun managers. Neither
# I nor anyone else guarantees the correctness of these entries.
#
# All attempts have been made to eliminate duplicate information.
#
# Most of the comments came from the suppliers of the data and are not
# mine.
#
# If you come across any errors or wish to add new entries, please send
# email to: sun-managers-format@eecs.nwu.edu
#
# This file is available for anonymous ftp from ra.mcs.anl.gov in
# /sun-managers/format.dat.
#
# If the drive you want isn't here, you can contact the manufacturer.
# Some manufacturers run Bulletin Board systems:
#
# Fujitsu America BBS 408 944 9899
# Seagate BBS USA/Can 408 438 8771
# Seagate BBS England 44 62 847 8011
# Seagate BBS Germany 49 89 140 9331
# Seagate BBS Singapore 65 292 6973
# Seagate BBS Australia 61 2 756 2359
# Maxtor BBS 303 678 2222
# Micropolis BBS 818 709 3310
# Quantum BBS 408 894 3214
# Conner BBS 408 456 4415 / 408 456 3200
#
# It is also possible to contact drive manufacturers by telephone.
# Some relevant numbers are:
#
# Fujitsu USA 800-626-4686
# 408-432-1300
# Fujitsu FAXLINE 408-428-0456
# Fujitsu Canada 416-602-5454
# 800-263-7091
# Hitachi USA 800-HIT-ACHI
# Hitachi HITFAX 800-HIT-FAX1
# Maxtor USA 800-2MA-XTOR
# Micropolis USA 818-709-3300
# Micropolis Tech 818-709-3325
# Seagate USA 800-468-3472
# 408-438-8222
# Seagate FAX 408-438-8137
# Seagate FAXBACK 408-438-2620
# Quantum USA 800-826-8022
# Conner USA 408-456-3247
# 408-456-4500
# Conner Tech 800-426-6637
# Conner FAXBACK 408-456-4903
#
# CDC spun off their disk-drive business as Imprimis, which was later bought
# by Seagate, so direct all questions about CDC and Imprimis drives to Seagate.
#
#
# TIPS for rolling your own format.dat
#
# For SCSI disks, any combination of cylinders, heads and sectors that does
# not add up to more than the rated formatted capacity of the drive
# will usually work, because the SCSI specification hides most of the drive
# details from the host.
#
# A program which queries a SCSI drive for its parameters and generates a
# format.dat entry for it is scsiinfo, which is available for anonymous
# ftp from ftp.cdf.toronto.edu (128.100.31.2):/pub/scsiinfo/scsiinfo-3.1.shar.
# [ Yes, it's an attempt to put myself out of the format faq business. :-) ]
# Moreover, SCSI drives may be queried at great length using the scsiping
# program, which is freely available for anonymous ftp from
# ftp.cdf.toronto.edu (128.100.31.2) and ftp.fwi.uva.nl (146.50.4.20) in
# /pub/scsiping/scsiping-2.0.shar.
#
# For SunOS 4.1.3 and 5.x, replace all occurrences of "MD21" by "SCSI".
# For SunOS 5.x, replace partition names a, b, c, etc. with 0, 1, 2, etc.
# For Solbourne systems, replace all occurrences of "MD21" by "IOASIC".
#
# When partitioning, do not make a partition larger than 2GB (2097152 KB, or
# 4194304 blocks), since SunOS does not support partitions larger than 2GB.
#
# This is the search path for 'format'. It contains all the disks that
# will be searched for if no disk list is given on the command line.
#
search_path = xd0, xd1, xd2, xd3, xd4, xd5, xd6, xd7, xd8, xd9, xd10, xd11, \
xd12, xd13, xd14, xd15, xy[0-3], sd[0-7], sd8, sd9, sd10, \
sd11, sd12, sd13, sd14, sd15, id0[0-3][0-7]
#
# This is the list of supported disks for the Xylogics 450/451 controller.
#
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2312K" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 587 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 589 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 32 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20480 : bps = 621 : drive_type = 1
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2284/M2322" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 821 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 823 : nhead = 10 : nsect = 32 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20480 : bps = 621 : drive_type = 2
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2351 Eagle" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 840 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 842 : nhead = 20 : nsect = 46 \
: rpm = 3961 : bpt = 28160 : bps = 595 : drive_type = 0
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2333" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 821 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 823 : nhead = 10 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600 : drive_type = 3
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2361 Eagle" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 840 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 842 : nhead = 20 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600 : drive_type = 3
disk_type = "CDC EMD 9720" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 1147 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1217 : nhead = 10 : nsect = 48 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 30240 : bps = 613 : drive_type = 1
disk_type = "Hitachi DK815-10" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 1735 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1737 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600 : drive_type = 1
disk_type = "NEC D2363" \
: ctlr = XY450 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 964 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1024 : nhead = 27 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600 : drive_type = 2
#
# This is the list of supported disks for the Xylogics 7053 controller.
#
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2351 Eagle" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 840 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 842 : nhead = 20 : nsect = 46 \
: rpm = 3961 : bpt = 28160 : bps = 595
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2333" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 821 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 823 : nhead = 10 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2361 Eagle" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 840 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 842 : nhead = 20 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600
disk_type = "CDC EMD 9720" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 1147 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1217 : nhead = 10 : nsect = 48 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 30240 : bps = 613
disk_type = "Hitachi DK815-10" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 1735 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1737 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600
disk_type = "NEC D2363" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 964 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1024 : nhead = 27 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2372K" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 743 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 745 : nhead = 27 : nsect = 67 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600
disk_type = "CDC 9720-850" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 1358 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1360 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 66 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 41088 : bps = 610
#
# From megatek!randy@suntan.West
#
# works great on a 4/300
disk_type = "Sabre ST82500J" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 2609 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2611 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 82 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 50400 : bps = 604
#
# From: "Adam W. Feigin" <awf@iis.ee.ethz.ch>
#
# We recently decomissioned a couple of Alliant FX/80's which had these
# drives in them. Between for formatting program on the Alliant, and the
# Fujitsu manual, I came up with the following format.dat entry. We've been
# using this entry on the dozen or so drives we pulled from our Alliants
# for about 6 months now without any problems. The drive formats down to
# roughly 525MB with this entry....
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2344K" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 622 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 624 : nhead = 27 : nsect = 64 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 40960 : bps = 600
# Format.dat 1.26 of 89/09/06, from a 490, shows Sun support of the
# following Imprimis drives on either the SMD-4 or ISP-80 (Sun IPI-2)
# controllers:
# The 3 disks shown are, respectively, the Sabre 9720-368, 9720-850,
# and 9720-1230.
disk_type = "CDC EMD 9720" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 1147 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1217 : nhead = 10 : nsect = 48 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 30240 : bps = 613
disk_type = "CDC 9720-850" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 1358 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1360 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 66 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 41088 : bps = 610
# From: Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
#
# Seagate Sabre-5 ST81236J drive
# used with the Xylogics 7053 controller
disk_type = "Seagate Sabre-5 ST81236J" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl=1633: acyl= 2: pcyl=1635: nhead=15: nsect=82 \
: rpm=3600 : bpt=50400 : bps=604
partition = "Seagate Sabre-5 ST81236J" \
: disk = "Seagate Sabre-5 ST81236J" : ctlr = XD7053 \
: a = 0, 99630 : b = 81, 261990 : c = 0, 2008590 \
: d = 294, 548580 : e = 740, 1098390 : f = 0, 361620 \
: g = 294, 1646970 : h = 81, 1908960
# From: Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
# Fujitsu-M2382 on a Xylogics-7053 (/dev/xd*) controller.
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2382" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 743 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 745 : nhead = 27 : nsect = 81 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 49728 : bps = 604
partition = "Fujitsu-M2382" \
: disk = "Fujitsu-M2382" :ctlr = XD7053 \
: a = 0, 80919 : b = 37, 129033 : c = 0, 1624941 \
: d = 96, 470205 : e = 311, 944784 : f = 0, 209952 \
: g = 96, 1414989 : h = 37, 1544022
# From johnb@edge.cis.mcmaster.ca (John Benjamins)
#
disk_type = "CDC EMD 9720-1230" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 1633 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1635 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 82 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 50400 : bps = 606
#
# This is the list of supported disks for the Emulex MD21 controller.
#
disk_type = "Micropolis 1355" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1018 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1024 : nhead = 8 : nsect = 34 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20832
disk_type = "Toshiba MK 156F" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 815 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 830 : nhead = 10 : nsect = 34 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20832
disk_type = "Micropolis 1558" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1218 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1224 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 35 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20833
#
# Following is a list of sample embedded SCSI disk configurations.
#
disk_type = "Quantum ProDrive 80S" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: cache = 0x07 : trks_zone = 6 : atrks = 0 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 832 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 834 : nhead = 6 : nsect = 34 \
: rpm = 3662 : bpt = 16896
disk_type = "Seagate (CDC) Wren V 94181-702" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 2 \
: ncyl = 1543 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1545 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 48 \
: rpm = 3592 : bpt = 33408
disk_type = "Seagate (CDC) Wren VI 94191-766" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1659 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1661 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 52 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31410
disk_type = "Seagate (CDC) Wren VII 94601-12G" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1703 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1931 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 3597 : bpt = 41301
# Wren 8 - from Tim Kohler <tim@pnge.psu.edu>
#
disk_type = "Seagate (CDC) Wren VIII ST41650N" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 3 \
: ncyl = 2070 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2072 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 89 \
: rpm = 3597 : bpt = 45568
# Yes, this is a duplicate entry. If you're running SunOS 4.1.1 or earlier
# on a sun4c (Sparcstation SLC/ELC/1/1+/IPC/IPX/2 without the patch for
# large SCSI disks, problems arise for SCSI disks with a formatted capacity
# greater than 2^21-1 bytes (1GB). Since the Wren VII is pretty close to
# that anyways, here's an entry for it that stays within the limit.
disk_type = "Seagate (CDC) Wren VII 94601-1.2G SunOS 4.1.1" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1925 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1927 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 3597 : bpt = 41301
disk_type = "Maxtor XT-8380S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 8 : asect = 3 \
: ncyl = 1626 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1632 : nhead = 8 : nsect = 53 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31410
disk_type = "Maxtor XT-8760S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1614 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1632 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 54 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31410
# WARNING: this disk must be driven in hard sector mode and hard-configured
# for 52 sectors/track.
#
disk_type = "Maxtor XT-8760E" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1616 : acyl = 6 : pcyl = 1632 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 50 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31410
partition = "Maxtor XT-8760E" \
: disk = "Maxtor XT-8760E" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 97500 : b = 878, 63750 : c = 0, 1212000 : g = 130, 561000 \
: d = 130, 280500 : e = 504, 280500 : f = 963, 489750 : h = 0, 658500
#
# This is the list of Sun supported disks for embedded SCSI.
#
disk_type = "CDC Wren IV 94171-344" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 9 : asect = 3 \
: ncyl = 1545 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1549 : nhead = 9 : nsect = 46 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20833
#
# Note: "SUN0999" entries constitute a "least common denominator" across
# all drives of the appropriate size that Sun ships. Sun may
# ship similarly sized drives from several different manufacturers,
# maintaining plug-and-play replaceability by using a generic "SUN0999"
# entry that works on all of them. It is sometimes possible to get a
# little more space or slightly better performance by using the entry
# for the disk manufacturer rather than the generic Sun entry.
disk_type = "SUN0104" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: trks_zone = 6 : atrks = 0 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 974 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1019 : nhead = 6 : nsect = 35 \
: rpm = 3662 : bpt = 16896
disk_type = "SUN0121" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1520 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1530 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 39 \
: rpm = 3575 : bpt = 19968
disk_type = "SUN0207" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: trks_zone = 9 : atrks = 2: asect = 4 \
: ncyl = 1254 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1272 : nhead = 9 : nsect = 36 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 18432
disk_type = "SUN0327" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 9 : asect = 3 \
: ncyl = 1545 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1549 : nhead = 9 : nsect = 46 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20833
disk_type = "SUN0424" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 9 : asect = 2 \
: ncyl = 1151 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2500 : nhead = 9 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 4400 : bpt = 26000
disk_type = "SUN0535" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 1866 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2500 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 31370
disk_type = "SUN0669" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1614 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1632 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 54 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31410
disk_type = "Sun1.0G" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1703 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1931 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 3597 : bpt = 41301
disk_type = "SUN2.1G" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 2733 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3500 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 44823
#
# Maxtor Xt-8610E notes:
#
# The drive is physically set to be hard-sectored at 53 sectors per track
# as recommended by the emulex manual. However, the OS apparently wants
# a sector per track for sparing, hence the number 52!
#
disk_type = "Maxtor XT-8610E" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1626 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1632 : nhead = 12 : nsect = 52 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31410
# Entry seems to work, but loses 10 Mbytes or so.
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST1239N SWIFT" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1264 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1266 : nhead = 9 \
: nsect = 35: rpm = 3600 : bpt=20232 :
disk_type = "Maxtor LXT-200S" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 0 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 1117 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1119 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 43 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 17000
#
# From Karen Casella (kcasella@maxtor.com) at Maxtor Corp.
# courtesy of Ken Lam (lam@jove.cofc.edu)
#
disk_type = "Maxtor LXT-340SY" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1355 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1546 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 35840
#
# From Larry D. Kelley (ldk@udev.cdc.com)
#
disk_type = "Maxtor LXT535ST" \
: cache = 0x00 \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 : atrks = 7 \
: ncyl = 1547 : acyl = 5 : pcyl = 1552 : nhead = 11 \
: nsect = 61 : rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31370
partition = "Maxtor LXT535ST" \
: disk = "Maxtor LXT535ST" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 1038037
#
# From: Peter Ilieve peter@memex.co.uk
#
disk_type = "HP 97549T" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 1909 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1921 : nhead = 16 : nsect = 64 \
: rpm = 4002 : bpt = 38350
disk_type = "HP 97558" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: asect = 0 : atrks = 26 \
: ncyl = 1933 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1962 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 72 \
: rpm = 4002 : bpt = 42840
disk_type = "HP 97556" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: asect = 0 : atrks = 26 \
: ncyl = 1668 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1697 : nhead = 11 : nsect = 72 \
: rpm = 4002 : bpt = 42840
disk_type = "HP 97560" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: asect = 0 : atrks = 26 \
: ncyl = 1933 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1962 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 72 \
: rpm = 4002 : bpt = 42840
# I didn't see the SUN1.3G from 4.1.2. I am using it on a factory
# formatted Seagate ST41600N
#
disk_type = "SUN1.3G" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 17 : asect = 6 : atrks = 17 \
: ncyl = 1965 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3500 : nhead = 17 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 44823
#
# This is the list of supported disks for the Adaptec ACB4000 controller.
#
disk_type = "Micropolis 1304" \
: ctlr = ACB4000 \
: ncyl = 825 : acyl = 5 : pcyl = 830 : nhead = 6 : nsect = 17 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 10416 : skew = 2 : precomp = 400
disk_type = "Micropolis 1325" \
: ctlr = ACB4000 \
: ncyl = 1022 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1024 : nhead = 8 : nsect = 17 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 10416 : skew = 2 : precomp = 1024
disk_type = "Maxtor XT-1050" \
: ctlr = ACB4000 \
: ncyl = 1020 : acyl = 4 : pcyl = 1024 : nhead = 5 : nsect = 17 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 10416 : skew = 2 : precomp = 1024
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2243AS" \
: ctlr = ACB4000 \
: ncyl = 752 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 754 : nhead = 11 : nsect = 17 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 10416 : skew = 2 : precomp = 754
disk_type = "Vertex V185" \
: ctlr = ACB4000 \
: ncyl = 1163 : acyl = 3 : pcyl = 1166 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 17 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 10416 : skew = 2 : precomp = 1166
# We are using a number of 1004Mb drives (IBM 3.5 inch, quite *fast*)
# distributed by Acropolis Systems, Inc.
# These entries work for us on 4/60s and 4/75's and equivalent entries work on
# HP9000/700s. Enjoy!
disk_type = "ASI-1.0GIBM"\
:ctlr=MD21:fmt_time=4\
:cache=0x11:trks_zone=15:asect=5:atrks=30\
:ncyl=1632:acyl=2:pcyl=1925:nhead=15:nsect=80\
:rpm=4316:bpt=41664
# From M.Lim@anu.edu.au
#
# Here is an entry for a Wren IX I posted to sun-managers recently
#
# It works on my SunOS 4.1.x systems.
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST42100N - Wren 9" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 2574 : acyl = 3 : pcyl = 2577 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 96 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 57200
partition = "Seagate ST42100N - Wren 9" \
: disk = "Seagate ST42100N - Wren 9" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 0 : b = 0, 0 : c = 0, 3706560 : d = 0, 0 \
: e = 0, 0 : f = 0, 0 : g = 0, 0 : h = 0, 0
#
# From jdd@cdf.toronto.edu
#
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2263SA" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 1 : atrks = 10 \
: ncyl = 1652 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1658 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 53 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 31296
#
# From nir@ca44.zoran.hellnet.org
#
# I couldn't find a Fujitsu 2266SA 1.2GB entry in your format.faq.
# I recently installed such a disk, and tried some entries sugested both from
# my dealer, and from The Net.
#
# The best results I got was by using:
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2266SA 1.2GB" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 1 : atrks = 10 \
: ncyl = 1652 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1658 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 85 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 50830
#
# From: John DiMarco (jdd@cdf.toronto.edu)
#
# Yes, this is a duplicate entry. If you're running SunOS 4.1.1 or earlier
# on a sun4c (Sparcstation SLC/ELC/1/1+/IPC/IPX/2 without the patch for
# large SCSI disks, problems arise for SCSI disks with a formatted capacity
# greater than 2^21-1 bytes (1GB). Since the Fujitsu 2266 is pretty
# close to that anyways, here's a format entry for the 2266 that stays
# within the limit. Parameters courtesy of Ian Watt from Fujitsu Canada
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2266SA 1GB" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 1642 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1658 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 85 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 50910
#
# From: poirot@mickey.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel Poirot)
#
# I have just installed five Seagate ST3283N in different SPARC 1+ and 2
# machines. These drives are 'FAST SCSI' and format out to 240 Meg. The
# following format.dat entry works fine for me!
disk_type = "SeagateST3283N" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: trks_zone = 5 : atrks = 0: asect = 0 \
: ncyl = 1689 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1691 : nhead = 5 : nsect = 57 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 29184
#
# From br@melb.bull.oz.au (Bret Robinson)
#
disk_type = "Maxtor XT-4380S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1202 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1224 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 36 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 18432
#
# From : Philip Brown <philb@soda.berkeley.edu>
#
#
#Note that this is for the ESDI disk.
#with an "ASDI" controller. although we fake it be be an MD21. ignore
#the final error about vendor-specific error. it really formats.
# also, when you label it, it is 90% likely to lock up the
# SCSI bus for a bit. try labeling immediately after. it should 99%
#likely work. don't ask me why. but from then on, you should
#have virtually no troubles with the drive.
#note also that this has NOTHING to do
#with the actual parameters of the drive. Which, I might add, are:
# 10 heads, 6 disks,
# 823 cylinders, variable sector size.
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2246E"\
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: trks_zone = 6 : atrks = 0 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 1196 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1198 : nhead = 6 : nsect = 35 \
: rpm = 3662 : bpt = 16896
partition = "Fujitsu M2246E" \
: disk = "Fujitsu M2246E" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0 , 16170 : b = 77,28140 : c = 0, 251160 : g = 211,206850
#
# From exudnw@exu.ericsson.se (Dave Williams)
#
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2624FA" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: trks_zone = 11 : atrks = 11 : asect = 3 \
: ncyl = 1440 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1442 : nhead = 11 \
: nsect = 64 : rpm = 4400 : bpt = 35840
partition = "Fujitsu M2624FA" \
: disk = "Fujitsu M2624FA" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 22528 : b = 32, 67584 : c = 0, 1013760 \
: g = 128, 450560 : h = 768, 473088
#
# From pete@guug.de (Pete Delaney)
# I'm using the following format.dat entry, it SEEMS to be working ok:
#
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2624S-512" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 4 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1429 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1435 : nhead = 11 : nsect = 64 \
: rpm = 4400 : bpt = 39263
#
# From kcasella@maxtor.com (Karen Casella)
#
# There are two models of Maxtor P0-12S, the newer one with 1795 cylinders,
# the older with 1632 cylinders.
#
# Newer model Maxtor P0-12S
disk_type = "Maxtor P0-12S (1795)" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 7 \
: ncyl = 1510 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1795 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 90 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 46080
partition = "Maxtor P0-12S (1795)" \
: disk = "Maxtor P0-12S (1795)" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 2038500 : g = 0, 2038500
# Older model Maxtor P0-12S
disk_type = "Maxtor P0-12S (1632)" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 7 \
: ncyl = 1478 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1632 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 90 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 46080
partition = "Maxtor P0-12S (1632)" \
: disk = "Maxtor P0-12S (1632)" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 1995300 : g = 0, 1995300
# From: Sandra Smith (sandra@csri.toronto.edu)
# Confirmed by Ian Watt at Fujitsu Canada
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2652SA" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 1935 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1944 : nhead = 20 : nsect = 88 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 52864
# From: John DiMarco (jdd@cdf.toronto.edu)
#
# Parameters from Ian Watt at Fujitsu Canada
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2654SA" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 2174 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2179 : nhead = 21 : nsect = 88 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 52864
# From: sun 4.1.2 format.dat version 1.24
disk_type = "CDC IPI 9720" \
: ctlr = ISP-80 \
: ncyl = 1631 : acyl = 1 : pcyl = 1633 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 82 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 50400 : skew = 0 : precomp = 0
partition = "CDC IPI 9720" \
: disk = "CDC IPI 9720" : ctlr = ISP-80 \
: a = 0, 33210 : b = 27, 131610 : c = 0, 2006130 : g = 134, 196800 \
: h = 294, 1644510
disk_type = "CDC IPI 9722" \
: ctlr = ISP-80 \
: ncyl = 1630 : acyl = 1 : pcyl = 1632 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 156 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 100800 : skew = 0 : precomp = 0
partition = "CDC IPI 9722" \
: disk = "CDC IPI 9722" : ctlr = ISP-80 \
: a = 0, 33852 : b = 31, 132132 : c = 0, 1779960 : g = 152, 197652 \
: h = 333, 1416324
disk_type = "Seagate IPI ZBR Elite" \
: ctlr = "ISP-80" \
: ncyl = 1893 : acyl = 1 : pcyl = 1895 : nhead = 17 : nsect = 78 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 50400 : skew = 0 : precomp = 0
partition = "Seagate IPI ZBR Elite" \
: disk = "Seagate IPI ZBR Elite" : ctlr = ISP-80 \
: a = 0, 34476 : b = 26, 132600 : c = 0, 2510118 : g = 126, 663000 \
: h = 626, 1680042
disk_type = "ST83220K" \
: ctlr = "ISP-80" \
: ncyl = 2652 : acyl = 1 : pcyl = 2653 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 102 \
: rpm = 4365 : bpt = 63840 : skew = 0 : precomp = 0
# From: Charles A. Uretsky (wbbart!cau@abars.att.com)
# thanks to the following:
#
# Michiel Steltman
# Brian Bartholomew
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST1480N" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 9 : asect = 4 \
: ncyl = 1456 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1476 : nhead = 9 : nsect = 64 \
: rpm = 4400 : bpt = 37037
# From: Bevin Steer (ccbjs@levels.unisa.edu.au)
#
# The following is what I am experimenting with. Please don't hesitate to
# contact me if you see something wrong or silly...or know what the real
# numbers should be :-)
#
disk_type = "DEC_RZ58" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 8 : atrks = 0 \
: ncyl = 2112 : acyl = 3 : pcyl = 2115 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 85 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 44000 # Stab in the dark, what should it be? #
partition = "DEC_RZ58_whole_disk" \
: disk = "DEC_RZ58" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c=0,2692800
# From jdd@cdf.toronto.edu (John DiMarco)
#
# Courtesy of Open Storage Solutions, bpt added from Seagate specs (avg of
# bpt for inner and outer tracks).
disk_type = "SUN2.1G" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 2733 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3500 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 44823
#
# From jdd@cdf.toronto.edu (John DiMarco)
#
# Params courtesy of Open Storage Solutions except for
# bpt, which I set to be the midpoint between the bpt figure for the
# inner and outer tracks.
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST42400N Elite 2" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 2604 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2624 : nhead = 19 \
: nsect = 84 : rpm = 5400 : bpt = 48720
partition = "Seagate ST42400N Elite 2" \
: disk = "Seagate ST42400N Elite 2" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 4155984
#
# From: philf@hst.att.com (Phil Fischer)
#
disk_type = "Seagate Elite ST43400N-3.5G" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 8 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 20 : asect = 6 : atrks = 20 \
: ncyl = 2736 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2738 : nhead = 21 : nsect = 99 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 49000
partition = "Seagate Elite ST43400N-3.5G" \
: disk = "Seagate Elite ST43400N-3.5G" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 2843360 : b = 1367, 2843360
#
# From kcasella@maxtor.com (Karen Casella)
#
disk_type = "Maxtor P1-17S" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 9 \
: trks_zone = 19 \
: ncyl = 1816 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1818 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 83 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 42496
partition = "Maxtor P1-17S" \
: disk = "Maxtor P1-17S" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 78850 : b = 50, 78850 : c = 0, 2863832 : d = 100, 78850 \
: g = 150, 2469582 : h = 1716, 78850
disk_type = "Maxtor P1-17S NB" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1711 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1778 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 90 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 46080
partition = "Maxtor P1-17S NB" \
: disk = "Maxtor P1-17S NB" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 2925810 : g = 0, 2925810
#
# From: kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan)
# This is a 'revised' format.dat which was supplied by Maxtor tech support
# for the MXT1240S.
#
disk_type = "Maxtor MXT1240S" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 7 \
: ncyl = 2306 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2368 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 6300 : bpt = 31410
partition = "Maxtor MXT1240S" \
: disk = "Maxtor MXT1240S" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 2421300 : g = 0, 2421300
#
# from Michael Chang (nulspace@cs.umd.edu)
#
disk_type = "CONNER 30170E" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 897 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 903 : nhead = 8 : nsect = 46 \
: rpm = 3822 : bpt = 23552
partition = "CONNER 30170E" \
: disk = "CONNER 30170E" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 14720 : b = 40, 40480 : c = 0, 330096 : g = 150, 274896
#
# from sgolson@trilobyte.com (Steve Golson)
#
# This drive is sold by DEC as the DEC DSP3105
#
disk_type = "Maxtor DXP3105S" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: ncyl = 2568 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2570 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 57 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 29640
#
# From (Dan Butzer) butzer@cranel.com:
#
disk_type = "HP C3010 / Cranel 2.0GB Fast SCSI2 H10" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 28515 : asect = 0 : atrks = 1311 \
: ncyl = 2165 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2325 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 95 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 44032
#
# From Rex Mayne <rex@hpuerca.atl.hp.com>
#
disk_type = "HP97548SU 664MB" \
:ctlr = MD21 \
:trks_zone = 1 : asect = 1 : atrks = 112 \
:ncyl = 1445 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1457 : nhead = 16 \
:nsect = 56 : rpm = 4002 : bpt = 37449
partition = "HP97548SU 664MB" \
:disk = "HP97548SU 664MB" : ctlr = MD21 \
:a = 0,35840 : b = 40,71680 : c = 0,1294720 \
:g = 240,197120 : h = 680,342720
#
# From louis@marco.de (Ju"rgen Fluk)
#
disk_type = "Conner CP3540" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1805 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1807 : nhead = 12 \
: nsect = 49 : rpm = 4400 : bpt = 35840
#
# From: kcasella@maxtor.com (Karen Casella)
#
disk_type = "Maxtor 7213SR NB" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1595 : acyl = 3 : pcyl = 1698 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 65 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 33280
partition = "Maxtor 7213SR NB" \
: disk = "Maxtor 7213SR NB" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 414700 : g = 0, 414700
#
# From sam@ics.uci.edu (Sam Horrocks)
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST11200N" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : asect = 12 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1714 : acyl = 1 : pcyl = 1715 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 5411 : bpt = 40960
partition = "Seagate ST11200N" \
: disk = "Seagate ST11200N" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 2056800 : b = 0, 0 : c = 0, 2056800 : g = 0, 0
#
# From jdd@cdf.toronto.edu (John DiMarco)
#
disk_type = "CONNER 30200" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: ncyl = 2121 : acyl = 2 : asect = 1 : pcyl = 2123 \
: nhead = 4 : nsect = 49 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 25088
partition = "CONNER 30200" \
: disk = "CONNER 30200" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 415716
# From: Thomas Tornblom <Thomas.Tornblom@Nexus.Comm.SE>
# This is the format.dat entry I used for using a 44M SyQuest drive on a
# SparcStation SLC. The SCSI-driver, for 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 at least, needs
# one binary patch and synchronous SCSI needs to be turned off in the
# kernel.
#
# What is needed is two kernel patches, a format.dat for the drive and a
# disk formatted with 512 byte blocks (I formatted one in a Macintosh).
#
# The kernel patches are small and can be done without source.
#
# # adb -k -w /vmunix /dev/mem
# physmem fec
# scsi_options?X
# _scsi_options:
# _scsi_options: 78
# ?W 38
# _scsi_options: 0x78 = 0x38 <- Turn off Synch SCSI
# sd_findslave+0x1b0?i
# _sd_findslave+0x1b0: mov -0x1, %l5
#
# _sd_findslave+0x1b4: st %l5, [%fp - 0x8] <- Change this
# ?W c027bff8
# _sd_findslave+0x1b4: 0xea27bff8 = 0xc027bff8
# sd_findslave+0x1b0?i
# _sd_findslave+0x1b0: mov -0x1, %l5
#
# _sd_findslave+0x1b4: st %g0, [%fp - 0x8] <- to this
#
# _sd_findslave+0x1b8: st %g0, [%fp - 0x4]
#
# 'what /sys/sun4c/OBJ/sd.o' said version 1.98 90/08/30 on my system, if
# yours is different, you might have to check around to find the
# offending sequence of instructions.
#
disk_type = "SyQuest SQ555" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 3 \
: ncyl = 1273 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1275 : nhead = 2 : nsect = 34 \
: rpm = 3220 : bpt = 16896
partition = "SyQuest SQ555" \
: disk = "SyQuest SQ555" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 86564
# From Fabrice Cuq (fabrice@cisk.atmos.ucla.edu)
# DEC DSP3160S -- Formatted Capacity: 1526MB
disk_type = "Arte DEC DSP3160S" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 13 \
: ncyl = 1744 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1746 : nhead = 16 : nsect = 112 \
: rpm = 5403 : bpt = 57344
# From: Richard.Hellier<rlh@cppuk.co.uk>
#
# Here is a format.dat entry for the IBM 0663 E15 1.2G disk,
# as supplied by the vendor.
disk_type = "IBM 0663-E15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 3182 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3184 \
: nhead = 20 : nsect = 37 : rpm = 4316 : bpt = 31410
# From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
#
# I got this information from Fujitsu technical support.
#
disk_type = "Fujitsu-M2694ESA" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 1830 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1832 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 77 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 31410
# From: Peter W. Osel <pwo@guug.de>
#
# Received these directly from Quantum Corp., USA
#
disk_type = "Quantum LPS 105S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1221 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1223 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 42 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 21504
disk_type = "Quantum LPS 120S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1987 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1989 : nhead = 2 : nsect = 60 \
: rpm = 3660 : bpt = 30720
disk_type = "Quantum LPS 240S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1995 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1997 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 60 \
: rpm = 3660 : bpt = 30720
disk_type = "Quantum PD 120S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1114 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1116 : nhead = 5 : nsect = 42 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 21504
disk_type = "Quantum PD 170S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1117 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1119 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 42 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 21504
disk_type = "Quantum PD 210S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1189 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1191 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 49 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 25088
disk_type = "Quantum PD 425S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1540 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1542 : nhead = 9 : nsect = 60 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 30720
disk_type = "Quantum ELS 85S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1535 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1537 : nhead = 2 : nsect = 54 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 27648
disk_type = "Quantum ELS 127S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1541 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1543 : nhead = 3 : nsect = 54 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 27648
disk_type = "Quantum ELS 170S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1542 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1544 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 54 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 27648
disk_type = "Quantum GoDrive 120S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1067 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1069 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 56 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 28672
disk_type = "Quantum GoDrive 160S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1413 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1415 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 58 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 29696
disk_type = "Quantum LPS 525S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2444 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2446 : nhead = 6 : nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 35840
disk_type = "Quantum PD 700S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2441 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2443 : nhead = 8 : nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 35840
disk_type = "Quantum PD 1050S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2444 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2446 : nhead = 12 : nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 35840
disk_type = "Quantum PD 1225S" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2442 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2444 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 35840
# From: cc_koper@rcvie.co.at (Koper Zangocyan)
# DEC RZ55 disk format.dat entry is the same as "Micropolis 1558"
# This works fine on a Sun-4/40 with SunOS 4.1.2
disk_type = "RZ55" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1218 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1224 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 35 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 20833
partition = "RZ55" \
: disk = "RZ55" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32025 : b = 61, 59850 : c = 0, 639450 : g = 175, 547575
# From: cc_koper@rcvie.co.at (Koper Zangocyan)
# DEC RZ24 disk format.dat entry.
# This works fine on a Sun-4/40 with SunOS 4.1.2
disk_type = "RZ24" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 8 \
: ncyl = 1344 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1348 \
: nhead = 8 : nsect = 38 : rpm = 3497 : bpt = 19456
partition = "RZ24" \
: disk = "RZ24" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 0 : b = 0, 0 : c = 0, 409792
#
# From: olav.lerbrekk@geology.uio.no (Olav Lerbrekk)
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST12550N" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x0 : trks_zone = 19 : asect = 9 : atrks = 19 \
: ncyl = 2747 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2708 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 7200 : bpt = 40960
#
# From: morrow@cns.ucalgary.ca (Bill Morrow)
#
# Format entry for M2511A magneto-optical 128MB removeable media drive.
disk_type = "Fujitsu M2511A" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 12 \
: ncyl = 9950 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 9952 : nhead = 1 : nsect = 25 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 12800
#
# From: gcs@tstsp0.dsto.gov.au (Gary Speechley)
#
# These are entries for the Maxtor Tahiti IIm drive. Credit where credit
# is due, however: most of the data is supplied through the device driver
# files from Advanced Archival Products of Greenwood Village Colorado.
# My modifications are for the single partition "DATA" drives.
#
# This is for the Maxoptix Tahiti IIm drive - SYSTEM
#
disk_type = "MAXOPTIX (NON-ISO, 512b) SYSTEM" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 15081 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 15083 : nhead = 1 : nsect = 60 \
: rpm = 2200 : bpt = 36600 : bps = 610 :
disk_type = "MAXOPTIX (NON-ISO, 1024b) SYSTEM" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 15104 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 15106 : nhead = 1 : nsect = 66 \
: rpm = 2200 : bpt = 74052 : bps = 1122 :
#
# This is for the Maxoptix Tahiti IIm drive - DATA (GCS 06-Apr-93)
#
disk_type = "MAXOPTIX (NON-ISO, 512b) DATA" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 15081 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 15083 : nhead = 1 : nsect = 60 \
: rpm = 2200 : bpt = 36600 : bps = 610 :
disk_type = "MAXOPTIX (NON-ISO, 1024b) DATA" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 15104 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 15106 : nhead = 1 : nsect = 66 \
: rpm = 2200 : bpt = 74052 : bps = 1122 :
# From: Todd Gamble <todd_gamble@wiltel.com>
#
# I got the drive and format.dat entry from DATALINK (800-448-6314).
disk_type = "HP C2247 1.05GB" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: trks_zone = 6925 : asect = 0 : atrks = 897\
: ncyl = 1661 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2018: nhead = 13\
: nsect = 95 : rpm = 5400 : bpt = 49152
partition = "HP C2247 1.05GB" \
: disk="HP C2247 1.05GB" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 2051335 : g = 0, 1640080: h = 1328, 411255
# From: Chris Dean <ctdean@seaspace.com>
#
# DEC DSP3210 2103MB
#
disk_type = "DEC DSP3210 2 GB" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 13 \
: ncyl = 3040 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3042 : nhead = 16 : nsect = 86 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 44032
partition = "DEC DSP3210 2 GB" \
: disk = "DEC DSP3210 2 GB" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 4183040
# From: Christopher Lott <lott@informatik.uni-kl.de>
#
# IBM 0662 S12 drive - approximately 1.05Gb
# most parameters retrieved from drive using format;
# rpm, bpt entered from the specification sheet.
#
disk_type = "IBM 0662-S12" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 : ncyl = 3002 : acyl = 2 \
: pcyl = 3004 : nhead = 6 : nsect = 114 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 31410
# From: Dean Cookson <cookson@mbunix.mitre.org>
# As received from DEC:
#
disk_type = "DEC DSP5350" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time=9 \
: cache = 11 : trks_zone = 25 : asect = 25 : atrks = 0 \
: ncyl = 3053 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3055 : nhead = 25 : nsect = 91 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 46592
# From: reilly@horta.shr.dec.com (Stephen Reilly)
#
# I am DEC's Engineer supervisor for the support
# of DEC devices on Sun SPARC systems. I would like to request that these
# [3] attached format.dat entries be added public domain version.
#
# 1.05 GB 3 1/2" form factor disk ( DEC P/N: SWSD3-SA)
disk_type = "DEC_RZ26" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 2568 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2570 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 57 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 29184
partition = "DEC_RZ26" \
: disk = "DEC_RZ26" :ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 66234 : b = 83, 132468 : c = 0, 2049264 : g = 249, 1850562
#
# 2.1 GB 3 1/2" form factor disk (DEC P/N: SWSD3-SB)
# Note: This is a banded drive so the number of sectors is an average over
# the bands.
disk_type = "DEC_RZ28" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 5 \
: ncyl = 3043 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3045 : nhead = 16 : nsect = 84 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 43008
partition = "DEC_RZ28" \
: disk = "DEC_RZ28" :ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 64512 : b = 48, 196224 : c = 0, 4089792 : g = 194, 3827712
#
# 3.57 GB 5.25 form factor disk (DEC P/N: SWSD5-SA)
# Note: This is a banded drive so the number of sectors is an average over
# the bands.
disk_type = "DEC_RZ74" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 9 \
: ncyl = 3053 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3055 : nhead = 25 : nsect = 91 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 46592
partition = "DEC_RZ74" \
: disk = "DEC_RZ74" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 65975 : b = 29, 193375 : c = 0, 4192825 \
: g = 114, 3931200 : h = 1843, 2752750
#
# From: adcock@gsc.emr.ca
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST11900N" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2619 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2621 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 83 \
: rpm = 5411 : bpt = 48140
partition = "Seagate ST11900N" \
: disk = "Seagate ST11900N" : ctlr = MD21 \
: b = 0, 498000 : c = 0, 3260655 : h = 400, 2761410
#
# From: dick@netcom.com (Richard Arnold)
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST12400N 2.4GB" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: cache = 0x0 : trks_zone = 19 : asect = 1 : atrks = 0 \
: ncyl = 2668 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2621 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 82 \
: rpm = 5411 : bpt = 41984
partition = "Seagate ST12400N 2.4GB" \
: disk = "Seagate ST12400N 2.4GB" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32718 : b =21, 65436 : c = 0, 4156744 : g = 63, 4058590
#
# From: Richard Ravich <richardr@kaiwan.com>
# Here's the latest version of format.dat that Micropolis has prepared.
#
disk_type = "Micropolis 1674-7" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1255: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1249: nhead = 7: nsect = 35 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 20832: trks_zone = 7: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 21: asect = 4
disk_type = "Micropolis 1684-7" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1785: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1780: nhead = 7: nsect = 53 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 31248: trks_zone = 7: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 21: asect = 4
disk_type = "Micropolis 1624-7" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1647: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2112: nhead = 7: nsect = 114 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 67900: trks_zone = 7: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 21: asect = 4
disk_type = "Micropolis 1578-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1231: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1224: nhead = 15: nsect = 35 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 20832: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 8
disk_type = "Micropolis 1588-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1637: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1632: nhead = 15: nsect = 53 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 31410: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 8
disk_type = "Micropolis 1598-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1931: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1928: nhead = 15: nsect = 70 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 41664: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 8
disk_type = "Micropolis 1528-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2102: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2100: nhead = 15: nsect = 83 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 42496: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 5 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 8
disk_type = "Micropolis 1548-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1701: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2112: nhead = 15: nsect = 131 \
: rpm = 3600: bpt = 79218: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 6 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 8
disk_type = "Micropolis 2105-8" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1448: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1760: nhead = 8: nsect = 94 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 51000: trks_zone = 8: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 25: asect = 5
disk_type = "Micropolis 2112-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1452: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1760: nhead = 15: nsect = 94 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 55556: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 5 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 6
disk_type = "Micropolis 1908-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1890: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2112: nhead = 15: nsect = 95 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 56241: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 5 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 8
disk_type = "Micropolis 1924-21" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2072: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2280: nhead = 21: nsect = 94 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 42496: trks_zone = 21: fmt_time = 5 \
: atrks = 63: asect = 11
disk_type = "Micropolis 1936-21" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2772: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2780: nhead = 21: nsect = 101 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 51718: trks_zone = 21: fmt_time = 6 \
: atrks = 63: asect = 11
disk_type = "Micropolis 2210-09" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2099: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2372: nhead = 9: nsect = 109 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 57770: trks_zone = 9: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 27: asect = 6
disk_type = "Micropolis 2108-10" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 1450: acyl = 3: pcyl = 1760: nhead = 10: nsect = 94 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 51000: trks_zone = 10: fmt_time = 4 \
: atrks = 30: asect = 5
disk_type = "Micropolis 2205-05" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2088: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2372: nhead = 5: nsect = 109 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 57770: trks_zone = 5: fmt_time = 3 \
: atrks = 15: asect = 6
disk_type = "Micropolis 1926-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2769: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2772: nhead = 15: nsect = 101 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 51718: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 5 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 8
disk_type = "Micropolis 2217-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2105: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2372: nhead = 15: nsect = 109 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 57770: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 5 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 6
partition = "Micropolis 2217-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 2217-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32700: b = 20, 65400: c = 0, 3441675: g = 60, 3343575
partition = "Micropolis 2210-09" \
: disk = "Micropolis 2210-09" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 33354: b = 34, 66708: c = 0, 2059119: g = 102, 1959057
partition = "Micropolis 2205-05" \
: disk = "Micropolis 2205-05" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32700: b = 60, 65400: c = 0, 1137960: g = 180, 1039860
partition = "Micropolis 2108-10" \
: disk = "Micropolis 2108-10" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 31960: b = 34, 63920: c = 0, 1363000: g = 102, 1267120
partition = "Micropolis 1926-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1926-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 33330: b = 22, 66660: c = 0, 4195035: g = 66, 4095045
partition = "Micropolis 1674-7" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1674-7" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 16415: b = 67, 32830: c = 0, 307475: g = 201, 258230
partition = "Micropolis 1684-7" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1684-7" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32648: b = 88, 65296: c = 0, 662235: g = 264, 564291
partition = "Micropolis 1624-7" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1624-7" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32718: b = 41, 65436: c = 0, 1314306: g = 123, 1216152
partition = "Micropolis 1578-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1578-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32550: b = 62, 65100: c = 0, 646275: g = 186, 548625
partition = "Micropolis 1588-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1588-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32595: b = 41, 65190: c = 0, 1301415: g = 123, 1203630
partition = "Micropolis 1598-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1598-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32550: b = 31, 65100: c = 0, 2027550: g = 93, 1929900
partition = "Micropolis 1528-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1528-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32370: b = 26, 64740: c = 0, 2616990: g = 78, 2519880
partition = "Micropolis 1548-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1548-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 33405: b = 17, 66810: c = 0, 3342465: g = 51, 3242250
partition = "Micropolis 2105-8" \
: disk = "Micropolis 2105-8" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32336: b = 43, 64672: c = 0, 1088896: g = 129, 991888
partition = "Micropolis 2112-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 2112-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 33840: b = 24, 67680: c = 0, 2047320: g = 72, 1945800
partition = "Micropolis 1908-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1908-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32775: b = 23, 65550: c = 0, 2693250: g = 69, 2594925
partition = "Micropolis 1924-21" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1924-21" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 33558: b = 17, 67116: c = 0, 4090128: g = 51, 3989454
partition = "Micropolis 1936-21" \
: disk = "Micropolis 1936-21" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 33936: b = 16, 67872: c = 0, 5879412 \
: g = 48, 2846382 : h = 1390, 2931222
# This is a entry for IBM 0663L12 (1004 Mb).
# It was created using scsinfo 3.1.
# It seems to work fine with my ELC (4/25) and Sun OS 4.1.3.
# jonas@interactive.se
disk_type = "IBM 0663L12" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 2 \
: trks_zone = 15 : atrks = 0 : asect = 0 \
: ncyl = 1979 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2051 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 66 \
: rpm = 4316 : bpt = 38808
partition = "IBM 0663L12" \
: disk = "IBM 0663L12" : ctlr = SCSI \
: c = 0, 1959210
#
# From: Tom Reingold <tommy@big.att.com>
#
# Here is an entry I wrote for a Seagate ST31200N. It works on a
# sparcstation 1+.
#
disk_type = "Seagate ST31200N" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 9 : asect = 5 : atrks = 5 \
: ncyl = 2692 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2694 : nhead = 9 : nsect = 85 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 36000
# From: Gerard Hynes <ghynes@compusult.nf.ca>
# Please find included the format.dat and partition data for the new
# Micropolis 2217-15 3.5" Fast SCSI-2 disk drive. This is a 1.765GB
# formatted unit.
#
# This data provided by Micropolis technical support.
disk_type = "Micropolis 2217-15" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: ncyl = 2105: acyl = 3: pcyl = 2372: nhead = 15: nsect = 109 \
: rpm = 5400: bpt = 57770: trks_zone = 15: fmt_time = 5 \
: atrks = 45: asect = 6
partition = "Micropolis 2217-15" \
: disk = "Micropolis 2217-15" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32700: b = 20, 65400: c = 0, 3441675: g = 60, 3343575
# From: mingso@netcom.com (Ming Yau So)
#
# The entry was provided by Stephen Reilly <reilly@horta.shr.dec.com>.
#
# format.dat for DEC DSP5200S 2GB SCSI disk
#
disk_type = "DEC DSP5200" \
: ctlr = MD21 \
: cache = 0x11 : trks_zone = 15 : asect = 5 : atrks = 30 \
: ncyl = 2619 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2621 : nhead = 21 : nsect = 71 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 36352
partition = "DEC DSP5200" \
: disk = "DEC DSP5200" : ctlr = MD21 \
: a = 0, 32802 : b = 22, 65604 : c = 0, 3904929 : g = 66, 3806523
# Hitachi DK315C-10, DK315C-10, DK315C-11, DK315C-14, DK325C-57,
# DK326C-6, DK326C-10, DK515C-78, DK516C-16, DK517C-37 and DK315-14
# entries prepared by Steve Simmons, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us.
#
# These values are taken from a sheet faxed to me by Hitachi.
# Cautionary note: the DK315C-14 does *not* fit into a standard
# mounting bracket -- the screw holes are in the wrong place.
disk_type = "Hitachi DK315C-10" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 3 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 22 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 2467 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2469 : nhead = 11 : nsect = 75 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 38912
disk_type = "Hitachi DK315C-11" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 3 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 30 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 2478 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2480 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 58 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 30208
disk_type = "Hitachi DK315C-14" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 3 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 30 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 2462 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2464 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 75 \
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 38912
disk_type = "Hitachi DK326C-6" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 2 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 8 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 3200 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3202 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 87 \
: rpm = 6300 : bpt = 44544
disk_type = "Hitachi DK326C-10" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 2 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 14 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 3200 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3202 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 87 \
: rpm = 6300 : bpt = 44544
disk_type = "Hitachi DK515C-78" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 2 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 28 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 1354 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1356 : nhead = 14 : nsect = 69 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 35328
disk_type = "Hitachi DK516C-16" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 3 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 30 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 2170 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2172 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 80 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 41472
disk_type = "Hitachi DK517C-37" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 6 \
: trks_zone = 1 : atrks = 42 : asect = 1 \
: ncyl = 3297 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 3299 : nhead = 21 : nsect = 81 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 41472
# From: MURRAY ALEXANDER W <murraya@ecf.toronto.edu>
#
# This is for a Conner CP3100 (note: not the newer CP30100), an older
# full-height 3.5" SCSI drive.
disk_type = "CP3100" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 1 \
: ncyl = 1023 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1023 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 49 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 25088
partition = "CP3100" \
: disk = "CP3100" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 204864
# From: tl@cd.chalmers.se (Torbj|rn Lindgren)
# The following format.dat entry is constructed from the Application
# Note that accompained our disks. We have run one of these a couple of
# days using this entry. M1H and N1H is both documented in the same
# AppNote, and even thought it isn't mentioned what the N1H is it MIGHT
# be the differential version (both the normal and the wide version).
disk_type = "IBM 0664-M1H/N1H" \
: ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 2856 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2870 \
: nhead = 16 : nsect = 86 : rpm = 5400 : bpt = 57600
# From: Kevin Martinez <lps@rahul.net>
# Here is format.dat data for Quantum LPS540 and LPS270 drives. Note that
# the "Empire 540" is not the same as the LPS540. They are distinguishable
# by color: the "Empire" series has black epoxy coat on the base casting;
# the LPS series is natural aluminum finish.
disk_type = "Quantum LPS 270S" \
:ctrlr = MD21 \
:ncyl = 992 : acyl = 2 : pcyl =994 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 76 \
:rpm = 4500 : bpt = 38912
disk_type = "Quantum Empire 1080S" \
:ctrlr = MD21 \
:ncyl = 1431 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1433 : nhead = 16 : nsect = 92 \
:rpm = 5400 : bpt = 47104
disk_type = "Quantum Empire 540S" \
:ctrlr = MD21 \
:ncyl = 1431 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1433 : nhead = 8 : nsect = 92 \
:rpm = 5400 : bpt = 47104
#
# 940511 shj@dknet.dk, partly courtesy of scsiinfo.
# IBM 0664 M1H, ~2 gb, tested on a Sparc IPC running SunOS 4.1.3.
disk_type = "IBM OEM 0664M1H" \
: ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 4 \
: trks_zone = 15 : atrks = 0 : asect = 34 \
: ncyl = 2787 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2857 : nhead = 15 : nsect = 94 \
: rpm = 5400 : bpt = 55272
# From: Daniel Curry <dan@radiomail.net>
# What I was looking for was the geometry for a Seagate ST3600N disk.
# Here is what scsiinfo printed out.
#
disk_type = "SEAGATE ST3600N" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 2 \
: trks_zone = 7 : atrks = 14 : asect = 7 \
: ncyl = 1853 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 1872 : nhead = 7 : nsect = 79 \
: rpm = 4467 : bpt = 46452
partition = "SEAGATE ST3600N" \
: disk = "SEAGATE ST3600N" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 1024709
# From: Mark Tearle <mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
# Here's my format.dat submission for the NEC 2352 disk drive, the numbers
# of sectors per track (nsect) and bytes per sector (bps) vary a lot
# depending on what position the dip switches are in. This is controlled
# by 10 switch DIP switch, my dip switches are in the following positions:
# 8,9,10,2,3,7 off 1,4,5,6 on
#
disk_type = "NEC-D2352" \
: ctlr = XD7053 \
: ncyl = 758 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 760 : nhead = 19 : nsect = 57 \
: rpm = 3070 : bpt = 36288 : bps = 636
# From: "richard a. reitmeyer" <gordot@leland.Stanford.EDU>
#
# I called someone here and asked them to try and dial the micropolis
# BBS for me and look for the 4110, Here's what I'm told:
#
disk_type = "Micropolis 4110" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 4 \
: ncyl = 1998 : acyl = 3 : pcyl = 2428 : nhead = 9 \
: nsect = 114 : rpm = 5400 : bpt = 51718 : trks_zone = 9 \
: atrks = 27 : asect = 6
# From: Paul Brand, Hong Kong (CIS 100267,3526) using scsiinfo 3.3
# The QUANTUM PD1050iS seems to be different from the QUANTUM PD1050S.
# (I'm not sure: for instance, for the "Seagate ST11200N" I received from
# several people 3 different format.dat entries. Then I discovered this
# big format.dat file: entry #4. Scsiinfo gave me a 5th different version.)
#
disk_type = "QUANTUM PD1050iS" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 3 \
: trks_zone = 12 : atrks = 0 : asect = 2 \
: ncyl = 1859 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2448 : nhead = 12 : nsect = 92 \
: rpm = 3600 : bpt = 54096
partition = "QUANTUM PD1050iS" \
: disk = "QUANTUM PD1050iS" : ctlr = MD21 \
: c = 0, 2052336
# From: rsm@math.utexas.edu (Robert S. Maier)
#
# Entry partially from scsiinfo, partially from information from Quantum
#
disk_type = "QUANTUM LPS540S" \
: ctlr = MD21 : fmt_time = 2
: trks_zone = 4 : atrks = 0 : asect = 2
: ncyl = 2113 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 2740 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 125
: rpm = 4500 : bpt = 73500
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From: awt001@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: NeXT 17" MegaPixel Color -> Mac?
Date: 22 Sep 94 09:24:47 CST
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa
Message-ID: <1994Sep22.092447@acad.drake.edu>
Hello NeXT hardware gurus:
I wanted to know if it was possible to connect a NeXT 17" MegaPixel Color
monitor to any kind of a Macintosh 24-bit accelerated graphics card. (ie:
Radius, SuperMac, RasterOps, etc...)
Can this be done? (And if so, what do I need cable/hardware-wise, or what
would be the necessary requirements for this to work?)
Any and all help, comments, suggestions greatly appreciated! Thanks!
A. Tan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NCR PCI Card and Exabyte - No go
Message-ID: <1994Sep22.105021.34880@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Date: 22 Sep 94 10:50:19 EDT
Has anyone got the NCR SCSI card with the Talus driver to work
with an Exabyte drive? I've seen the threads where accessing
the tape drive freezes the machine, and I have the same problem.
Is there a fix? A new driver?
Thanks
Sean
P.S. In other news, I have fixed my sound playback problem on my
Pentium 90 machines (Intel Plato Motherboard, MSS Sound) with
a BIOS upgrade to .10 of the AMI BIOS (Thanks Steve Muir from
Data Net). Sound playback is MUCH better, no distortion, etc.,
but still not perfectly reliable. Hello? 3.3?
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Sean Varah
Harvard Computer Music Studio
cello@mario.harvard.edu
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From: csilva@cs.sunysb.edu (Claudio Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables and NS 3.3 (Vapor) ?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 15:06:42 GMT
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35s6i2$9fj@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
References: <35phct$oo0@cosmos.nectech.com> <35q7kh$j2g@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
>available yet. (Talus' official odds-maker, "Nick the Geek", is giving big
>odds against a 3.3 delivery prior to 1995)
I do not believe that NEXT will take that long to put out 3.3. It
would be a major upset for everybody. In the least, they should
release more drivers for 3.2 (and PCI support).
Claudio.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:57:47 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <QiUOZve00UhW43xsUK@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <35r26e$che@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 22-Sep-94 Re: Number Nine
GXEL16 BETA.. by Nathan F. Janette@laplac
> Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
> require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
> standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
> VRAM...?
That would be 32 bits including space for the alpha channel, which I am
pretty certain is _not_ stored in VRAM on your video card but in your
systems' main RAM.
-Chuck
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro *Turbo* -- VLB driver available ?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 17:39:11 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <35sffv$j2l@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <35p8ou$ibd@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> <35qlco$mmc@anshar.shadow.net>
Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
: The GPT driver is available now from Talus (info@talus.com). It will also
: be a part of 3.3 (or so I've been led to believe).
Wrong. _Another_ driver for the GPT will be part of 3.3 (I've been led to
believe) ... ;-).
Gregor
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: BLACK: Does Syquest 270MB work as removable storage medium?
Message-ID: <CwJGH0.Cw@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 16:00:35 GMT
Having seen various posts concerning the general usefulness of those drives, some questions remain
unanswered :
1.) The drive is plug 'n play, right?
2.) No extra disktab or else required?
3.) media are recognized as removable, thus allow for changing wo/ poweroff/reboot?
4.) formatted medium allows for ~230MB, possible to build bootable disks?
Thanks, Juergen
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From: harv@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Harvey C. Dueck)
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Message-ID: <1994Sep22.174930.6473@narwal.ali.bc.ca>
Organization: A.L.I. Technologies
References: <1994Sep21.163302.2329@narwal.ali.bc.ca> <35r26e$che@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 17:49:30 GMT
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>-> with a home-grown driver for an EISA card. The PCI boards are much
>-> faster, but we really need a minimum of 1024x1280x24bits.
>Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
>require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
>standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
>VRAM...?
The card we have been using isn't a VGA board. As far as I know,
you are correct in asserting that none of the current VGA-style
boards will support enough memory. My boss tells me there are
supposed to be some out in the near future, but I don't know the
details (I'm mostly a software guy).
- harv
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From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca (Eric Norum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP/FIP IEEE-488 Software/Hardware
Date: 22 Sep 1994 18:51:21 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35sjn9$cm9@tribune.usask.ca>
Keywords: IEEE-488, driver
Does anyone know of hardware/software to connect IEEE-488 bus instruments
to an NeXTSTEP/INTEL machine? I've used ioTech's SCSI-488/N converter on
a couple of NeXTstations, but ioTech has dropped support for this (and has
no support for their ISA cards under NeXTSTEP).
The other IEEE-488 controller board manufacturer I know of is National
Instruments, but they don't support NeXTSTEP either. :-(
Any ideas?
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Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: csilva@cs.sunysb.edu (Claudio Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro *Turbo* -- VLB driver available ?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 18:01:04 GMT
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Message-ID: <35sgp1$ajt@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
References: <35p8ou$ibd@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> <35qlco$mmc@anshar.shadow.net>
Talus does *not* have a ATI Ultra Pro Turbo **VLB**. They just
have PCI drivers.
Claudio.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au>
Subject: A Buyer for Black in Australia..
Message-ID: <CwJ6Fu.Hq1@softpac.com.au>
Sender: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave THOMAS)
Organization: Softpac Pty. Ltd., Sydney, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:23:53 GMT
G'Day
We have a client DownUnder who wants to purchase a Black Colour Slab
quickly at a good price (needless to say!), but Murphy's Law applies
again! I did a Catch up a few days ago and do not see anyone offering any
Black Hardware..
Could you pse mail me direct if you know of anything available or have one
yourself you wish to unload?
Thanks
Rgds dave t
From: nicholr@heaphy.gb.swissbank.com (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,demon.local
Subject: Which is the better drive of the DSP3107 and the ST31200N
Date: 22 Sep 1994 11:17:40 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <NICHOLR.94Sep22121740@heaphy.gb.swissbank.com>
Both drives are the same price which one should I go for?
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables and NS 3.3 (Vapor) ?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 21:02:01 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <35src9$opl@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <35s6i2$9fj@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
In article <35s6i2$9fj@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> csilva@cs.sunysb.edu
(Claudio Silva) writes:
> >available yet. (Talus' official odds-maker, "Nick the Geek", is giving
big
> >odds against a 3.3 delivery prior to 1995)
>
> I do not believe that NEXT will take that long to put out 3.3. It
> would be a major upset for everybody.
Upset or not..."Nick the Geek" is sticking by his prediction of a 1995
release date for 3.3 (the name, however, may be changed from NS 3.3 to
NEXTSTEP '95 :-)
> In the least, they should release more drivers for
> 3.2 (and PCI support).
Don't expect to see any additional drivers from NeXT for 3.2. I'm sure
they're busy trying to get the (still mythical) driver kit ready for 3.3.
In the meantime, none of us out here in the NS third-party wasteland can
even begin to get new drivers prepped for 3.3. With October on our
doorstep, a 3.3 release in November seems to be pure fantasy.
Place your bets.....
"Nick the Geek"
From: diaz@me.msu.edu (Alejandro Diaz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Connecting LaserWriter Select 360
Date: 22 Sep 1994 23:26:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <35t3ro$oef@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Keywords: LaserWriter
I am trying to connect a LaserWriter Select 360 to a NextStation Turbo.
So far I have had no success. Can anyone help?
I am using a Next Null-Modem cable plugged into port A with pins
connected as follows
MiniDIN-8 RS-232
1 DTR 8 DCD
2 DCD 20 DTR
3 TXD 3 RXD
4 GND 7 GND
5 RXD 2 TXD
6 RTS 5 CTS
7 not connected
8 CTS 4 RTS
I have the printer switch set to # 3 which apparently means
9600,N,8,1,XON/OFF. In Print Manager I picked port (A) and baud rate
(9600). The stuff I try to print simply goes to the queue, which reports
that the page is "printing" forever.
Any suggestions? Please respond to diaz@me.msu.edu. I will post results.
My apologies if this has been discussed before.
Alejandro
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From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 23:52:00 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <35t5b0$p9c@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <1994Sep22.174930.6473@narwal.ali.bc.ca>
Somebody writes (I lost track who):
>Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
>require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
>standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
>VRAM...?
I'm under the impression that NeXTstep only needs VRAM for
24-bit, as the extra 8 bits are simply used for composing the
final image (taking transparency into account), which then
goes to VRAM. Therefore 4MB is enough VRAM - the extra 8
bits simply don't factor into VRAM calculations.
But I'm not sure... no promises.
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From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody using a DSP3107 on a NeXTStation?
Date: 22 Sep 1994 08:58:26 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Sep22095826@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Is anybody using this make of drive on a NeXTStation?
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From: griffon@unixg.ubc.ca (griffon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which P5-90 MB to get???
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 17:54:57 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <griffon.294.008342BA@unixg.ubc.ca>
Ha!
Finally I have saved up money to replace the motherboard for my NS box...I am
wondering which PCI board is the best for NS right now? I saw an ad for a SMP
p5 90 MB...Since NS is not SMP right now...ok gotta wait for the Solaris
OPENSTEP...would it speed up my apps or would it sit in the socket like a $500
piece of ceramic and silicon!? Thanks!=)
Griff
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which P5-90 MB to get???
Date: 22 Sep 1994 23:25:53 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <35ths1$4np@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <griffon.294.008342BA@unixg.ubc.ca>
griffon (griffon@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Ha!
: Finally I have saved up money to replace the motherboard for my NS box...I am
: wondering which PCI board is the best for NS right now? I saw an ad for a SMP
: p5 90 MB...Since NS is not SMP right now...ok gotta wait for the Solaris
: OPENSTEP...would it speed up my apps or would it sit in the socket like a $500
: piece of ceramic and silicon!? Thanks!=)
: Griff
You're much better off putting your money into things that will actually
improve performance - like better video and disk subsystems and more RAM.
Right now, SMP is still an unfulfilled promise (at least on Intel
hardware). Solaris/OpenStep likely won't be ready for another year, and
there are no plans at this time for SMP NeXTSTEP. On the other hand, new
systems like the AST Premmia GX (dual 100mhz Pentium) look promising. By
the time SMP becomes ubiquitous, the market will probably be filled with
dual P6-P7 systems.
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From: wehmeier@acf4.nyu.edu (wehmeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: help! slab won't power down.
Date: 23 Sep 1994 01:19:27 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <35taev$mvb@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
References: <35phcq$4d@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Keywords: nextstation
wehmeier@acf4.nyu.edu (wehmeier) writes:
>I suspect this has come up before, but...
>my nexstation won't power off after a shutdown from
>the keyboard, but reboots immediately. sometimes after
>trying this three times in a row it eventually shuts
>down. how to fix this?
>ps. i just upgraded the eeprom, so maybe there are some
>nvram settings i don't know about?
well, thanks to those of you who suggested checking the Preferences
reboot_after_powerfail switch. Actually, this comes up as "Not Applicable"
on my non-turbo slab.
I am using the release 2.5v66 eeprom now and everything worked when i
used the original release 2.0. should i be using an older eeprom, or would
anyone have a spare? many thanks.
Udo Wehmeier
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: NeXT486 on a Gateway
Message-ID: <CwJ93F.8zw@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <35ocnl$h0@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 13:21:14 GMT
In article <35ocnl$h0@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
writes:
> keltym@barh1a.its.rpi.edu wrote:
> : Help,
> : I have a Gateway Pentium (66 MHz) with a Viper PCI Graphics Card, a
> : Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, and a 3-COM Etherlink III card. Is it possible to
> : install NeXT on my computer?
>
> The Viper is supported, but the Mitsumi CD-ROM is proprietary, and will
> not work. You'll need a SCSI CD-ROM drive, and a supported SCSI
> controller. I don't know about the 3com card.
>
>
We used a 3-com card for a while, but it was subject to random lock-ups that
could only be cleared by rebooting. There were others on the net w/ said they
had the same problem, and some who had had no problem at all....
---
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From: awt001@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Sep22.092447@acad.drake.edu>
Control: cancel <1994Sep22.092447@acad.drake.edu>
Date: 23 Sep 94 00:25:02 CST
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa
Message-ID: <1994Sep23.002502@acad.drake.edu>
cancel <1994Sep22.092447@acad.drake.edu>
From: medigap@aol.com (Medigap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 01:30:08 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <35tp50$iv7@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Anyone who has tried both, please send a note with a description of your
setup and your subejctive or objective results. Thanks a lot.
Matt Webster
gmw@princeton.edu
From: awt001@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where To Buy Used NeXT Equipment?
Date: 23 Sep 94 00:29:27 CST
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa
Message-ID: <1994Sep23.002927@acad.drake.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can e-mail/call to purchase a 17" NeXT monitor
and/or a NeXT ADB-style keyboard? I remember awhile back there was a
company out on the net that dealt in used NeXT equipment. (I think they
were called "Spherical" or something like that...)
Anyone here know if they're still around? (Or where I can get either of
the above items?) If so, please e-mail me A.S.A.P. Any and all help would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
A. Tan
Drake University
Dept. of Computer Science and Mathematics
=============================================================================
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI TAPE DRIVES
Date: 22 Sep 1994 21:43:04 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <35sq8o$1gj@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <35pec6$8e6@slowhand.nmb.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a nice / decent DAT 4mm drive and
>software that works on my ADAPTEC 1542CF, NeXT Intel
>machine?? My old tape died and am looking for a new one..
My WangDAT 3200 works like charm with NS/I.
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From: farul@news.cs.columbia.edu (Farul Ghazali)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AMD and IBM CPUs for Nextstep
Date: 23 Sep 1994 02:29:07 -0400
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Message-ID: <35tsjj$2fv@play.cs.columbia.edu>
Will Nextstep FIP work with AMD's version of the 486DX or IBM's 486SL
series? Nothing I saw at ftp.next.com mentioned anything about
this. Thanks.
/farul
From: victor@ArtSci.WuStL.EDU (Mladen Victor Wickerhauser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Spastic PLI SuperFloppy 2.88
Date: 23 Sep 1994 07:40:23 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis, MO
Message-ID: <35u0p7$dc7@bigfoot.wustl.edu>
I have a 2.88 MB PLI SuperFloppy SCSI external 3.5" diskette drive which
fails intermittently.
Q1. Does anyone have a new telephone number for PLI? The one I have
from 1991, (510)657-2211, is no longer valid.
Q2. Has anyone successfully repaired an out-of-warranty PLI drive?
All answers will be accepted gratefully.
Victor
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 23 Sep 94 09:53:31 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.780314011@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <35tp50$iv7@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
medigap@aol.com (Medigap) writes:
>Anyone who has tried both, please send a note with a description of your
>setup and your subejctive or objective results. Thanks a lot.
How shall anyone compare these cards? There's no driver for the 2940 yet
and the only available NCR driver has an incredibly low write performance.
Markus.
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From: tx70104@sun3.lrz-muenchen.de ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with Slab serial port
Date: 23 Sep 1994 13:38:31 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <35ulon$h79@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <359kkg$sp8@condor.cs.jhu.edu> <CwBoGH.1AI@muaddib.isar.de>
mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) writes:
>In article <359kkg$sp8@condor.cs.jhu.edu> audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
>writes:
>| Something just happened to by Slab's serial port A. It no longer
>| comunicates correctly with my modem. If I open the device, RTS
>| is asserted but DTR isn't. This just happened, I was logged into
>| a remote system, I reset the modem due to a noisy line, then it
>| stopped working. Every thing is OK if I use port B. Is there
>| a way to reset the serial ports ( I've already rebooted ) or does
>| this sound like a fried port?
>|
>| Chris
>Seems to be fried, the same happens to my B-port :)
The same happened to my A port, but some weeks later, the DTR signal on
port A reppeared. I don't know why and how, but, of course, I'm happy
about it. Alas, I don't know how long it will last.
Btw, my modem did work in either mode, with and without DTR.
Matthias Rosenberger
email: tx70104@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de
A
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro *Turbo* -- VLB driver available ?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 13:45:05 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <35um51$bm4@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <35sgp1$ajt@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>
In article <35sgp1$ajt@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> csilva@cs.sunysb.edu
(Claudio Silva) writes:
>
> Talus does *not* have a ATI Ultra Pro Turbo **VLB**. They just
> have PCI drivers.
>
> Claudio.
True. Sorry!
Dan
dan@talus.com
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NCR PCI Card and Exabyte - No go
Date: 23 Sep 1994 13:50:20 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <35umes$c03@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <1994Sep22.105021.34880@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
In article <1994Sep22.105021.34880@hulaw1.harvard.edu> writes:
> Has anyone got the NCR SCSI card with the Talus driver to work
> with an Exabyte drive? I've seen the threads where accessing
> the tape drive freezes the machine, and I have the same problem.
>
> Is there a fix? A new driver?
I am still waiting on a new version which will fix the tape drive problem,
as well as add some other goodies. Sorry again. I should have news soon
(I hate stalling like this, honest).
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean
>
> P.S. In other news, I have fixed my sound playback problem on my
> Pentium 90 machines (Intel Plato Motherboard, MSS Sound) with
> a BIOS upgrade to .10 of the AMI BIOS (Thanks Steve Muir from
> Data Net). Sound playback is MUCH better, no distortion, etc.,
> but still not perfectly reliable. Hello? 3.3?
v.08 of the BIOS even messed up _DOS_ sound playback. It's nice not to be
bitching to tech support about NS problems, for a change.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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From: singhk@fi.gs.com (Kunal Singh)
Subject: NeXT Serial Port Busted
Message-ID: <CwL74s.7wz@fi.gs.com>
Sender: news@fi.gs.com (Netnews Administrator)
Organization: Fixed Income Division - Goldman, Sachs & Co.
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:34:04 GMT
My NeXT mono 25MHz slab's serial port is broken, mostly my own fault,
I plugged in a modem with a power supply different from the modem's.
The power supply provided 10VAC instead of the 9VAC that it was
supposed to provide. But anyway, the modem is fine, but the serial
port on my NeXT is fried. It seems to cause both reading and writing
data lights to stay on despite the fact that no one is using the port.
I can't imagine that this is a very tough thing to repair though.
Because the other serial port works, possibly just a fried UART ?
Does anyone out there have any experience with this sort of thing ?
What are my options ?
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From: hendryj@mcs.com
Subject: Re: Which P5-90 MB to get???
Message-ID: <1994Sep23.142753.22880@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
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References: <35ths1$4np@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:27:53 GMT
Jay Fuchs writes
> You're much better off putting your money into things that will actually
> improve performance - like better video and disk subsystems and more RAM.
> Right now, SMP is still an unfulfilled promise (at least on Intel
> hardware). Solaris/OpenStep likely won't be ready for another year, and
> there are no plans at this time for SMP NeXTSTEP.
OpenStep/Solaris may not be ready for another year, but NeXTSTEP/Sparc is
supposedly due sooner than that. I doubt NeXT is going to ignore all the
multi-processor Sun boxes, so they'll have to incorporate SMP support into
NeXTSTEP. Once they get that working, I should hope they would carry the
changes over to Intel, too.
Didn's someone from NeXT say they were adding SMP to NeXTSTEP? (At Expo, I
think)
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of Vanguard
Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or undead is
entirely coincidental.
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Message-ID: <1994Sep23.150809.23273@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
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References: <35t5b0$p9c@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 15:08:09 GMT
Andrew Abernathy writes
>
> Somebody writes (I lost track who):
>
> >Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
> >require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
> >standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
> >VRAM...?
>
> I'm under the impression that NeXTstep only needs VRAM for
> 24-bit, as the extra 8 bits are simply used for composing the
> final image (taking transparency into account), which then
> goes to VRAM. Therefore 4MB is enough VRAM - the extra 8
> bits simply don't factor into VRAM calculations.
>
> But I'm not sure... no promises.
>
The problem is that for 24-bit color modes, most video cards use word-aligned
pixels. So the extra 8-bits/word are unused. However, some cards like the ATI
GPT (I think) and the JCIS Weitek 9100 based video board (Power Shark?) use a
technique called Pixel-packing to not align the pixels. This does allow
1280x1024 - 24-bit color in just 4MB VRAM. I don't know if the WindowServer
can handle this video storage technique however. It's also possible that there
might be some sort of performance penalty as the system will have to shift the
bits at some level.
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| CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 12:25:21 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <35uvhh$hj8@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <35tp50$iv7@newsbf01.news.aol.com> <next2.780314011@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Markus Wenzel (next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
: medigap@aol.com (Medigap) writes:
: >Anyone who has tried both, please send a note with a description of your
: >setup and your subejctive or objective results. Thanks a lot.
: How shall anyone compare these cards? There's no driver for the 2940 yet
: and the only available NCR driver has an incredibly low write performance.
Arrgghh....I've been going through a SCSI nightmare.
Several months ago, I got word from Talus and NeXT that they were both
going to be releasing 2940 drivers *soon*. I then purchased the 2940 for
my new 90mhz Pentium system (Premiere II/PCI MB), and
waited patiently for the driver, using the system under Windows in the
meantime :-( It then became apparent that no 2940 driver was coming, and
I purchased the NCR 825 from Talus, only it wouldn't work (BIOS problems
- this was before the .08 patch) I have now purchased the NCR 810 from
Talus (it should be here in an hour), instead of wasting my money on a
1542CF. I know about the problems with the NCR and Talus driver, but
until NS 3.3 ships with a stable 2940 driver, that's what I'll have to
use. Does ANYONE have ANY CLUE as to when 3.3 will ship?
Anyhow, under Windows the 2940 performed admirably. Installation is a
breeze, all card configuration is done in BIOS software. If you're
putting together a system for multiple operating systems (OS/2, Windows,
NT, UnixWare) the 2940 offers compatability, and excellent Windows
utilities. But you'll have to wait to find out how it performs under
NeXTSTEP.
BTW: If anyone out there is writing a 2940 driver, I'd be happy
to test it for you.
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From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Intel-Homebrew list revamped: digest available
Date: 23 Sep 1994 16:47:11 GMT
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There have been a lot of problems plagueing the HomeBrew list that
has caused some people to unsubscribe (errors being set to the
message sender, etc) but now that has all been fixed by changeing
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From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: CD Rom drive + Gecko question
Message-ID: <1994Sep23.174202.18806@galois.mit.edu>
Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 17:42:02 GMT
Well to my delight, my Gecko (712/80) arrived today. Unfortunately my
NeXT CD ROM drive will not function with the Gecko. Now that I look,
it is mentioned in the hardware compatibility guide that this is the
case. I know, I should have looked, but in my wildest dreams I didn't
think that this would be the case. Apparently the NeXT CD ROM drive
can be used _after_ NEXTSTEP has been installed.
So now my question. Does anyone know which CD ROM drives will work?
I know the HP drive will, but it is very expensive, and I think there
must be something cheaper out there which will do the job.
Thanks in advance
Mike
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From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Message-ID: <1994Sep23.172913.14001@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
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References: <35t5b0$p9c@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 17:29:13 GMT
In article <35t5b0$p9c@ftp-p.mccaw.com> andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew
Abernathy) writes:
>
>Somebody writes (I lost track who):
>
>>Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
>>require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
>>standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
>>VRAM...?
>
>I'm under the impression that NeXTstep only needs VRAM for
>24-bit, as the extra 8 bits are simply used for composing the
>final image (taking transparency into account), which then
>goes to VRAM. Therefore 4MB is enough VRAM - the extra 8
>bits simply don't factor into VRAM calculations.
>
>But I'm not sure... no promises.
When the window server operates in 24bpp mode it writes 32 bit words to the
framebuffer that contain 24 bits of actual color information (8R, 8G, 8B) and 8
bits of garbage. Alpha is not stored in the framebuffer. The framebuffer memory
might look like this:
| | |
RGBX|RGBX|RGBX|...
Some cards allow 24bpp modes where the framebuffer data must be packed together
tightly. The framebuffer looks like this:
| | |
RGBR|GBRG|BRGB|...
While this organization allows for more pixels in the same amount of
framebuffer memory, there is a performance penalty for operating this way. The
existing window server code does not handle this style of memory organization
and therefore can not take advantage of modes that require it.
If a card stores data internally in the latter format but presents a memory
interface to the system that looks like the first format, the window server
could take advantage of it. From its point of view it doesn't matter since it
does not care about preserving the 8 unused bits.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
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From: Gilad Ehven <b6933873@mail.wsu.edu>
Subject: HELP! Net Browsing by Modem a Pain and a Problem!
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 16:56:59 GMT
Please HELP! I am a frustrated NeXT user who is upset at the apparent
lack of utility of my system. Actually, it's my skill that's lacking and
not the system, but the end result is the same. Here's my problem:
I'm using a NeXTstation Turbo Color at an off campus site. I connect to
the university AIX system via a ZyXEL modem, and use my [student]
computer account on the school's system to roam the internet and to
receive mail.
One of the many things I can't figure out (even with the help of campus
reps, who bring me close but not all the way), is how to "beam" files
such as images, software and text mail from my unix account on campus to
the slab on my desktop. Currently, I use my system to instruct the
school's AIX system (running PINE) to print text messages to the screen,
which I then copy and paste into a word processing file on my desktop --
a time consuming and irritating solution to the problem.
Further, I can't figure out how to edit the image files I copy (and hope
to eventually "beam" directly to my system), so that these images are
viewable on my screen. I have a GIF utility, but I'm not sure what I
should do to view Internet loot with it.
I've used kermit, but it sends the entire mail folder in a combined file,
from which some pieces (or whole messages) are missing, and again -- I
don't know how to edit the resultant mess so that I'm left with what's
needed to view an image or run a piece of gathered software!
Finally, the school's system DOES NOT provide any kind of a SLIP service
(and nobody there knows of an available equivalent either). Will I ever
get to use my NeXTmail app? Can somebody help me? What would you do if
you had a remote NeXT connected to an AIX system via dial-up service, and
wanted to collect images, text, and software from the Net? Are there any
[affordable] commercial products that can do all these things for me,
without sacrificing the NeXT GUI?
Please post any information you may have to share about these matters, or
better yet, e-mail me at b6933873@mail.wsu.edu
From: tokumaru@alumni.caltech.edu (Phillip Takeo Tokumaru)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ergonomic Keyboard for NS/HPPA/712?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 17:53:07 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <35v4m3$2qq@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Keywords: ergonomic keyboard HP PA
I am looking for an ergonomic-style keyboard for use with
NEXTSTEP running on a 712/60. The NeXTanswers 1684 says that
"In particular, PS/2-style keyboards are known to be
incompatible with NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for PA-RISC." What
kind of keyboards/mice are compatible? Any suggestions?
Phillip Tokumaru
ptok@cave.usc.edu
From: awt001@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <1994Sep23.002927@acad.drake.edu>
Control: cancel <1994Sep23.002927@acad.drake.edu>
Date: 23 Sep 94 14:47:42 CST
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cancel <1994Sep23.002927@acad.drake.edu>
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Where To Buy Used NeXT Equipment?
Date: 23 Sep 1994 19:41:54 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Sep23.002927@acad.drake.edu>
In article <1994Sep23.002927@acad.drake.edu> awt001@acad.drake.edu writes:
> Does anyone know where I can e-mail/call to purchase a 17" NeXT monitor
Here is a list I keep of NeXT hardware (and software) suppliers. I
suggest that you do not call Bell Atlantic unless you want to be ripped
off.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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1) Bell Atlantic 1-800-499-NEXT (6398)
2) Pixelated Technologies 1-800-749-3563 & 310-459-6831
pixel8ed@kaiwan.com
4) Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley,
CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
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From: mduggan@nectech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex with built-in Tseng Labs Video
Date: 23 Sep 1994 18:31:48 GMT
Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA
Message-ID: <35v6uk$ghd@cosmos.nectech.com>
References: <1994Sep20.114618.5984@cyantic.com>
> However, with the built-in video Tseng W32000i chip and 2Mb of video RAM
it
> looks like we are getting only 2bit grey scale at 1024 x 768 resolution.
>
> When the system boots the diagnostic messages say that there is a
failure
> in trying to load a video driver and it backs off to the configuratin
> above.
>
The Tseng W32i Interleaves the 2MB DRAM, It works like 1MB DRAM.
800x600x16bit color is the MAX.
1024x768x8bit gray scale max.
NS 3.3 supports the 1024x768x8bit color.
Thanks,
Mike
From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: hurry: want to buy or rent a external floppy drive for my cube
Date: 23 Sep 1994 04:05:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <35tk6k$fqc@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I need a external floppy drive for my cube to install NeXT 3.2. If you want to sell your external floppy drive or lend it to me (sure, I am very willing to pay to rent it), please email to "kuocy@ecn.purdue.edu."
sincerely,
Chun-Yen Kuo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (bill anderson)
Subject: accessing a NeXT over digital phone lines
Message-ID: <1994Sep23.220823.4931@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 22:08:23 GMT
I have an 040 NeXTCube in my office here at McGill, where all the phone
lines are digital. At home, my phone line is analog. I can access my NeXT
from home by dialing into a terminal server at McGill. But recently, that
has become all but impossible since undergraduate students have been given
"freebie Internet codes" and the lines are busy all evening long.
So my question is: is there any way of accessing my NeXT directly from my
modem at home to the digital telephone in my office, and then directly to
my NeXT. I remember seeing a couple of years ago advertisements for a
Hayes ISDN adapter (or something), the point of which I never quite
understood, but now in retrospect, may have been the answer to my current
problem.
If someone has any ideas about this, could they let me know?
Thanks in advance.
Bill Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
In-Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu's message of 22 Sep 1994 04:46:06 GMT
To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep23083118@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <1994Sep21.163302.2329@narwal.ali.bc.ca> <35r26e$che@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:31:17 GMT
In article <35r26e$che@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
In article <1994Sep21.163302.2329@narwal.ali.bc.ca> harv@narwal.ali.bc.ca
(Harvey C. Dueck) writes:
-> ...Unfortunately, neither card does better than 864x1152
-> resolution in 24 bit mode :-(. We've been running 1200x1600 by 24 bits
-> with a home-grown driver for an EISA card. The PCI boards are much
-> faster, but we really need a minimum of 1024x1280x24bits.
Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
VRAM...?
For efficiency reasons 24-bit mode on many cards uses 32-bit longwords
for each pixel. Cached images under NS may actually use the entire
longword by adding an alpha channel. Neither of these arguments
applies in this case.
With just a little bit of extra hardware a card can make 4 MBytes of
VRAM appear to be more than 5 MBytes of VRAM by discarding e.g. the
most significant byte in each longword written to its frame buffer.
This has no negative performance impact on the CPU or the bus as to
them this is indistinguishable from a card which actually has a larger
amount of VRAM, nor will it have any on a well-designed card.
Also there is no reason to keep an alpha channel in the frame buffer.
All the frame buffer needs to know is the color of a pixel which is
completely unaffected by its alpha channel. Discarding this
information in the frame buffer (not the window server) has no
negative effect. And if I read the video device driver documentation
correctly, alpha channel information is discarded before writing to
the frame buffer in any case.
There is no reason not to have a 4 MByte VRAM 1280x1024 24-bit color
card under NS.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fxdoming@shade (Francisco Xavier Dominguez)
Subject: Connecting Mac PowerBook Duo via SCSI
Message-ID: <CwLoxC.Gx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:58:24 GMT
Has anyone had any luck connecting a PowerBook Duo to a NeXT machine via
the SCSI connector? The PowerBook behaves like a SCSI drive which has been
formated with a single mac partition.
I guess what I'm looking for is possibly a command which would mount the
PowerBook as SCSI device 2 and let me transfer files to and from it.
If there is any information which you can provide me, it would be greatly
appreciated.
Francisco
fxdoming@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: #9 (1meg) and DELL OPTIPLEX 466L in 800x600 16bits colors
Message-ID: <CwM1CG.n0p@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 01:26:39 GMT
Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) wrote:
: In article <CwGv1v.KoG@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
: > You need 2M for 800x600x2. You have enough for 640x480x2.
: Incorrect. Where are you getting those numbers from?
I stand corrected. Thanks.
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From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anybody using a DSP3107 on a NeXTStation?
Date: 24 Sep 1994 03:35:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3606qh$ipg@tequesta.gate.net>
References: <ROBERT.94Sep22095826@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Robert Nicholson (robert@steffi.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Is anybody using this make of drive on a NeXTStation?
: --
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I'm using one, but in a NeXT cube:
DEC DSP3107LS Rev 440C as sd0 at sc0 target 1
Disk Capacity 1021MB, Device Block 512 bytes
-Rob
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From: mud@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT internal optical drive for sell
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 16:41:33 -0800
Organization: edu
Message-ID: <9409231641.AA33130@chris-slip.osrhe.edu>
Please respond to mud@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
I have a internal NeXT optical drive (the canon drive). This drive was
manufactured in December on 1990, but is still in the NeXT box. This drive
works fine or your money back (just tested it in my cube). I also have the
scsi controller that canon made, so if you need that i can throw it in.
I am taking the best offer.
Chris Jackson
PLEASE respond to mud@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
From: brien@ix.netcom.com (Brien Hutzler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dear Talus, just make your drivers work!!!
Date: 24 Sep 1994 13:37:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <361a3i$o48@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <35src9$opl@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
>
>In article <35s6i2$9fj@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> csilva@cs.sunysb.edu
>(Claudio Silva) writes:
>> >available yet. (Talus' official odds-maker, "Nick the Geek", is giving
>big
>> >odds against a 3.3 delivery prior to 1995)
>>
>> I do not believe that NEXT will take that long to put out 3.3. It
>> would be a major upset for everybody.
>
>Upset or not..."Nick the Geek" is sticking by his prediction of a 1995
>release date for 3.3 (the name, however, may be changed from NS 3.3 to
>NEXTSTEP '95 :-)
>
>> In the least, they should release more drivers for
>> 3.2 (and PCI support).
>
>Don't expect to see any additional drivers from NeXT for 3.2. I'm sure
>they're busy trying to get the (still mythical) driver kit ready for 3.3.
>In the meantime, none of us out here in the NS third-party wasteland can
>even begin to get new drivers prepped for 3.3. With October on our
>doorstep, a 3.3 release in November seems to be pure fantasy.
>
>Place your bets.....
>
>"Nick the Geek"
>
>
>
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 24 Sep 1994 18:06:46 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
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References: <35uvhh$hj8@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <35uvhh$hj8@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay
Fuchs) writes:
> Several months ago, I got word from Talus and NeXT that they were both
> going to be releasing 2940 drivers *soon*. I then purchased the 2940 for
> my new 90mhz Pentium system (Premiere II/PCI MB), and
> waited patiently for the driver, using the system under Windows in the
> meantime :-(
This is why we hesitate to tell people what we're working on...and why our
engineers hesitate to give me definite delivery dates for drivers. This
is especially true with SCSI.
>It then became apparent that no 2940 driver was coming, and
> I purchased the NCR 825 from Talus, only it wouldn't work (BIOS problems
> - this was before the .08 patch) I have now purchased the NCR 810 from
> Talus (it should be here in an hour), instead of wasting my money on a
> 1542CF. I know about the problems with the NCR and Talus driver, but
> until NS 3.3 ships with a stable 2940 driver, that's what I'll have to
> use. Does ANYONE have ANY CLUE as to when 3.3 will ship?
NeXT is doing a 2940 driver, though I have no idea how stable it will be.
We will not continue work on our driver since there's very little use in
trying to compete with the drivers that you can get for free, regardless
of their stability.
While several people have had problems with the NCR driver with particular
hardware combinations, hundreds of people have had no trouble whatsoever.
Considering the PCI support in 3.2, we didn't do too badly overall. We
are working to improve the driver for 3.2 and we will update it again for
3.3, whenever the driver kit for 3.3 ships.
If you want a guess on when 3.3 will ship, my bet would be January or
February....but don't take my word for it. No one, including NeXT, knows
exactly when they'll have a shipping version ready, or even when the
driver kit will ship. I doubt that they'll ship 3.3 without updated
drivers (or at least we hope not) and, unless they plan on doing them all
themselves, it'll take at least two months to get some of the 3.2 drivers
updated and tested prior to shipping.
> Anyhow, under Windows the 2940 performed admirably. Installation is a
> breeze, all card configuration is done in BIOS software. If you're
> putting together a system for multiple operating systems (OS/2, Windows,
> NT, UnixWare) the 2940 offers compatability, and excellent Windows
> utilities. But you'll have to wait to find out how it performs under
> NeXTSTEP.
The 2940 should be a good performer. The price of the card, last time I
checked, was two to three times as high as the NCR. I don't know if this
has changed or not.
> BTW: If anyone out there is writing a 2940 driver, I'd be happy
> to test it for you.
We will test the 2940 driver from NeXT as soon as we get a chance and let
you know how it performs.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: HP 1200C/PS Printer
Message-ID: <CwnG1s.Gr6@eskimo.com>
Summary: Can't print to it
Keywords: Printer, HP
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 19:41:50 GMT
Just hooked up this printer, but didn't get very far. I tried some of
the available PPD's, but to no avail. I keep getting the message:
"Some or all of the pages in your print request
couldn't be printed"
Watching the Printer Queue while it is on hold reveals that the Print
Manager's test print is indeed sending a 47K test page. My
configuration has the on-board parallel port selected at port 0x378.
The port seems to be okay because DOS can talk to it.
Do I need a 1200C/PS flavored PPD?
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>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: bwh@kato.prl.ufl.edu (Brian Hook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is my configuration NextStep happy?
Date: 24 Sep 1994 22:26:41 GMT
Organization: Parallel Research Lab
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BWH.94Sep24182641@kato.prl.ufl.edu>
I'm thinking of making the big leap. Here is my current configuration:
Intel PremiereII PCI/ISA Pentium/66
16MB RAM (to be upgraded to 24MB or 32MB soon)
ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 2MB PCI
AMI BIOS 1.00.07AF
WD540MB IDE HDD (to be replaced soon)
Micropolis 4110 or Seagate 31200N SCSI 1GB HD
NexStor NX93 NCR PCI SCSI-II controller
SoundBlaster Pro
Microsoft Serial Mouse (1.0)
USRobotics Sportster 14.4K internal modem
Plextor 4Plex QuadSpeed CD-ROM drive
If necessary, I can use a PCI S3 964 based board instead. I will also
consider upgrading to a different sound card.
Whether I have a Micropolis or Seagate drive depends on its compatibility
with NextStep.
Brian
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is my configuration NextStep happy?
Date: 24 Sep 1994 18:56:59 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <362arr$hi0@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <BWH.94Sep24182641@kato.prl.ufl.edu>
Brian Hook (bwh@kato.prl.ufl.edu) wrote:
: I'm thinking of making the big leap. Here is my current configuration:
: Intel PremiereII PCI/ISA Pentium/66
: 16MB RAM (to be upgraded to 24MB or 32MB soon)
: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 2MB PCI
: AMI BIOS 1.00.07AF
: WD540MB IDE HDD (to be replaced soon)
: Micropolis 4110 or Seagate 31200N SCSI 1GB HD
: NexStor NX93 NCR PCI SCSI-II controller
: SoundBlaster Pro
: Microsoft Serial Mouse (1.0)
: USRobotics Sportster 14.4K internal modem
: Plextor 4Plex QuadSpeed CD-ROM drive
: If necessary, I can use a PCI S3 964 based board instead. I will also
: consider upgrading to a different sound card.
: Whether I have a Micropolis or Seagate drive depends on its compatibility
: with NextStep.
1. Get the GPT driver from Talus (info@talus.com)
The mach64 is faster than the 964, and from what I've heard, the NeXT
964 driver is buggy.
2. Avoid Enhanced IDE drives.
3. I just recieved the Micropolis 4110, but haven't installed NS on it
yet. Under Windows, it delivers 2.3mb/s sustained transfer.
4. NexStor NCR SCSI. If this is the same as the NCR 53C8xx, you can get
the driver from Talus.
5. SB Pro. Not supported in 3.2, although there is a PD driver available.
NS 3.3 should have SB drivers, including SB16.
6. Internal modems - I've had people tell me they don't work under NS 3.2.
I haven't tried my Supra 288i yet.
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*->->-> Jay Fuchs <--> Peripheral Visionary <-<-<-* Mac Maven/Windows Wizard *
*-------------------------------------------------* OS/2 Basher/UNIX Bigot/ *
** Miami, FL ** "Wasting away in Margaritaville" ** Linux Lover/DOS Dummy *
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: HP 1200C/PS Printer
Message-ID: <CwnM98.55L@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <CwnG1s.Gr6@eskimo.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 21:55:55 GMT
Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
: Just hooked up this printer, but didn't get very far. I tried some of
: the available PPD's, but to no avail. I keep getting the message:
: "Some or all of the pages in your print request
: couldn't be printed"
It turns out that pp0 wasn't starting up. Though I am not 100% sure
how(or why), but apparently I must configure my AMI Enterprise IV EISA
bus to disable mouse support. The bus utility always sets the default
to enabled, so I have to remember to reset this option; the utility
states that I should leave it enabled and disable it at CMOS. If I am
on to something, then I am glad I disregarded this utility's message.
: Do I need a 1200C/PS flavored PPD?
This question still holds. The PaintJet XL300 seems to be compatible.
Odd thing about the Preview.Print.Options... is that, after I make a
selection(such as high resolution) the Preview panels disappear and
nothing happens. Is this a bug?
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>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Connecting LaserWriter Select 360
Message-ID: <1994Sep24.102455.1400@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <35t3ro$oef@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 10:24:55 GMT
In article <35t3ro$oef@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> diaz@me.msu.edu (Alejandro
Diaz) writes:
>
> I am trying to connect a LaserWriter Select 360 to a NextStation
Turbo.
> So far I have had no success. Can anyone help?
>
> I am using a Next Null-Modem cable plugged into port A with pins
> connected as follows
>
> MiniDIN-8 RS-232
> 1 DTR 8 DCD
> 2 DCD 20 DTR
> 3 TXD 3 RXD
> 4 GND 7 GND
> 5 RXD 2 TXD
> 6 RTS 5 CTS
> 7 not connected
> 8 CTS 4 RTS
>
> I have the printer switch set to # 3 which apparently means
> 9600,N,8,1,XON/OFF. In Print Manager I picked port (A) and baud rate
> (9600). The stuff I try to print simply goes to the queue, which
reports
> that the page is "printing" forever.
>
> Any suggestions? Please respond to diaz@me.msu.edu. I will post
results.
> My apologies if this has been discussed before.
>
> Alejandro
>
>
> ---
> ____________________________________________________________________
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> East Lansing MI 48824 USA
>
>
>
>
Apple does not support RTS and CTS signals
Pin 6 and 8 carry the positive RS422 transmit and receive signal!
You have to disconnect pin 6 and 8
Hope that helps
Fabien
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
In-Reply-To: talus.com!steve's message of 24 Sep 1994 18:06:46 GMT
To: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep24185328@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <35uvhh$hj8@anshar.shadow.net> <361prm$q6j@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 22:53:27 GMT
In article <361prm$q6j@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
We will test the 2940 driver from NeXT as soon as we get a chance and let
you know how it performs.
Can you ? I thought that would be confidential under the prerelease
NDA. Otherwise I'd be happy to post a few results on this subject.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Derrik Walker II <dwalker@omega.csuohio.edu>
Subject: Does NS support The QIC-80 Tape format
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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Organization: Cleveland State University
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 04:43:53 GMT
I'm thinking about getting a Dell to put NS on and they have an upgrade
option for a QIC-80 tape drive. Will it wrk, or must I have a SCSI DAT
drive for NS.
Thanks.
-Derrik
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From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables and NS 3.3 (Vapor) ?
Date: 24 Sep 1994 21:27:26 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <362u7e$h9@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <35s6i2$9fj@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> <35src9$opl@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Steve Sarich III writes:
>Upset or not..."Nick the Geek" is sticking by his prediction of a 1995
>release date for 3.3 (the name, however, may be changed from NS 3.3 to
>NEXTSTEP '95 :-)
It seems irresponsible for a business owner who purportedly supports
NEXTSTEP to be making such statements without any supporting evidence.
It's been my experience that people in a position to know don't tell;
if they did they would quickly be removed from a position to know. Are
you in the beta program for 3.3? If so, your posting violates the
agreement you signed not to talk about the status of 3.3. If not,
then you really don't know what state 3.3 is in, do you?
>Don't expect to see any additional drivers from NeXT for 3.2. I'm sure
>they're busy trying to get the (still mythical) driver kit ready for 3.3.
>In the meantime, none of us out here in the NS third-party wasteland can
>even begin to get new drivers prepped for 3.3. With October on our
>doorstep, a 3.3 release in November seems to be pure fantasy.
I have no idea what you're talking about with the mythical driver kit.
What part of it is mythical? Just because you don't have the 3.3
driver kit, why do you assume there's no way it could be released in
October?
In general, I think it's a bad idea for you to broadcast your problems
with NeXT on this newsgroup.
While I don't question whether you have some valid grievances with
some of the people at NeXT, I think you'd do well to recognize that
not everyone at NeXT is the same. They are not a group mind. It
amazes me that you insult and taunt the entire company, and then act
all surprised when they don't want to do business with you.
Consider if I walked up to you and said, "You're the stupidest guy
I've ever met, you don't know how to write any code, why don't you
hire me to do it for you?" What would your likely response be?
I have a number of good friends at NeXT, and as a business owner I
consider it good policy not to insult the entire company even if
someone working at NeXT upsets me. Instead, I either deal with that
person or stop dealing with that person.
Talus may have written excellent drivers; your color portable may be
really cool. However, I for one am not going to buy or recommend any
products from your company until you stop this pointless feud with
NeXT, and starting acting like their partner. (Which means not airing
your dirty laundry in public, among other things.) Not because I
love NeXT so much, but because I think you're committing suicide
and I don't want to be stranded with an unsupported machine.
I don't believe a company like Talus can survive in the NeXT market
unless NeXT likes it. Our market is just too small for that. If you
continue to piss off NeXT, they'll make it harder for you to do
business, and eventually you'll either decide to cut your losses or
you'll run out of money.
Every time you take a shot at NeXT, what it's saying to me is that
you've got a death wish for your company. I owe a lot of my company's
success to referrals from NeXT, and you claim to owe a lot of your
failures to NeXT's interferance. It seems obvious that the best thing
for you is to make friends with NeXT. I don't care who started it, I
don't care who did what to whom. Trial-by-net is never an appropriate
way to solve a conflict. You may feel good when people post, "Garsh,
I can't believe NeXT did that to you, that's just horrible," but I can
assure you it's losing you business.
-Wil
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is my configuration NextStep happy?
Date: 25 Sep 1994 02:20:06 -0700
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
Message-ID: <363fc6$t4o@ame2.math.arizona.edu>
References: <BWH.94Sep24182641@kato.prl.ufl.edu>
In article <BWH.94Sep24182641@kato.prl.ufl.edu>,
Brian Hook <bwh@kato.prl.ufl.edu> wrote:
>
>I'm thinking of making the big leap. Here is my current configuration:
>
>Intel PremiereII PCI/ISA Pentium/66
>16MB RAM (to be upgraded to 24MB or 32MB soon)
>ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 2MB PCI
>AMI BIOS 1.00.07AF
>WD540MB IDE HDD (to be replaced soon)
>Micropolis 4110 or Seagate 31200N SCSI 1GB HD
>NexStor NX93 NCR PCI SCSI-II controller
>SoundBlaster Pro
>Microsoft Serial Mouse (1.0)
>USRobotics Sportster 14.4K internal modem
>Plextor 4Plex QuadSpeed CD-ROM drive
>
>If necessary, I can use a PCI S3 964 based board instead. I will also
>consider upgrading to a different sound card.
>
>Whether I have a Micropolis or Seagate drive depends on its compatibility
>with NextStep.
>
>Brian
>--
1. I just got my Diamond Stealth 64 VLB. It is basied on the S3 964 chip.
So far, I have no problem with the NeXT's driver. It runs fine on my
PC and much faster than my old ATI mach 32. So could any one tell me
why it is buggy?
2. I have been using the USRobotics Spotster 14.4k internal modem
on my PC with MuxDriver for almost half a year. It is a good modem,
especially, you buy it now because it is cheap. However,
there is one problem with this modem. That is, it's Class 1 FAX-modem.
NeXTSTEP does not support any Class 1 FAX-modem. So if you wanna have
FAX, then you should go others; e.g., supra.
3. I also have one Seagate 31200N SCSI HD. It is fast and quit. I like
it very much. I don't know the Micropolis 4110, but I am considering
Quantum. Can any one there confirm Quantum IMP1440S 1.44 GM for me?
I'll appreciate that.
-Yuwen
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on a Packard Bell
Date: 25 Sep 1994 04:05:29 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Message-ID: <362su9$h6i@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Well, it looks like I'm gonna be installing NeXTStep on
a Packard Bell Pentium-60. This is not a listed or
approved machine, so I expect to encounter some
difficulties. On the other hand, they're pretty straight
forward clones, so there shouldn't be anything too
obscure.
I am looking for advice about what to look out for and
what to try. Is there any known problems with Packard
Bells? Is there any test suite for testing NS
compatability? Is there a guide for installing NS on an
unlisted machine?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Peter
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From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables and NS 3.3 (Vapor) ?
Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:39:24 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <363r1s$j4b@news.bu.edu>
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William Shipley (wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com) wrote:
: Steve Sarich III writes:
: >Upset or not..."Nick the Geek" is sticking by his prediction of a 1995
: >release date for 3.3 (the name, however, may be changed from NS 3.3 to
: >NEXTSTEP '95 :-)
: It seems irresponsible for a business owner who purportedly supports
: NEXTSTEP to be making such statements without any supporting evidence.
: It's been my experience that people in a position to know don't tell;
: if they did they would quickly be removed from a position to know. Are
: you in the beta program for 3.3? If so, your posting violates the
: agreement you signed not to talk about the status of 3.3. If not,
: then you really don't know what state 3.3 is in, do you?
Ahhh, don't get all huffy, taking a valid guess you probably know that any
person who has any vested interest in making money from nExtstep, has a copy
of 3.3, legit or not.
: In general, I think it's a bad idea for you to broadcast your problems
: with NeXT on this newsgroup.
: unless NeXT likes it. Our market is just too small for that. If you
: continue to piss off NeXT, they'll make it harder for you to do
: business, and eventually you'll either decide to cut your losses or
: you'll run out of money.
: Every time you take a shot at NeXT, what it's saying to me is that
: you've got a death wish for your company. I owe a lot of my company's
: success to referrals from NeXT, and you claim to owe a lot of your
: failures to NeXT's interferance. It seems obvious that the best thing
: for you is to make friends with NeXT. I don't care who started it, I
: don't care who did what to whom. Trial-by-net is never an appropriate
: way to solve a conflict. You may feel good when people post, "Garsh,
: I can't believe NeXT did that to you, that's just horrible," but I can
: assure you it's losing you business.
Whatever.... Kissing ass in all its myriad subtle shades and gradiations isd
a nice all-purpose tool that fitses all kinds of locks, when applied to nearly
any situation in the whole entire world.
On the other hand I couold basically care less who NeXT is grumpy with this
week and base most of my purchase decisions on whether or not the produect
does what I want or need.
I am not privvy to any of the dirty laundry between NeXT and its third party
devetlopers. But it seems a somewhat common sight in these newsgroups to see
said third-party dev elopers posting angry and/or near-hysterical multi-page
diatribes about why nExt is the incarnation of evil and how its smooshing
them with a great big nasty fist.
So I guess maybe othere's something legitimate to complain about. But, pretty
much, the only thing of actual interest is how entertaining the exchanges are,
and who makes me giggle that day.
And, well, the 3rd party developers do that a lot more then nExt, 'cuz nExt
is a great-big, stoic, and monolithic, strong and silent type, as corporations
with more than 10 employees are wont to be.
By the way, although I am an idiot and take myself extremely seriously on
the usenet most especially. Random stray vowels and characters that appear
in this message are not a result of my stupeidity, they are in fact apparently
some weird burp occuring deep within the bowels of the aix that this is being
posted from. If you neerd an extra vowel, feel free to borrow it, but only
take what you need. Many thanks.
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 25 Sep 1994 12:36:34 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <363nc2$9sd@marsu.s.bawue.de>
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jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>BTW: If anyone out there is writing a 2940 driver, I'd be happy
>to test it for you.
He would have to pay an expensive fee for receiving developer documentation.
I don't care for Adaptec anymore. Anyone better writes a driver for the
DPT 2024 PCI controller as soon as it is released.
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From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does NS support The QIC-80 Tape format
Date: 25 Sep 1994 15:57:37 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <3646lh$ih9@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.90.940925004042.3857C-100000@omega.csuohio.edu>
Derrik Walker II (dwalker@omega.csuohio.edu) wrote:
: I'm thinking about getting a Dell to put NS on and they have an upgrade
: option for a QIC-80 tape drive. Will it wrk, or must I have a SCSI DAT
: drive for NS.
No QIC-80 driver.....
you gotta go SCSI DAT..... or Magnito optical
Gary
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From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on a Packard Bell
Date: 25 Sep 1994 18:10:58 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <364efi$151@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <362su9$h6i@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Post a complete list of your hardware components. What kind of disk
interface? What kind of video subsystem? How much memory do you
have? How much VRAM does the local-bus video controller have? (Is
it a local bus machine at all? I'd assume so, it's a Pentium.) What
kind of audio hardware? ...
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: HP 1200C/PS Printer
Message-ID: <Cwp70p.5BA@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <CwnG1s.Gr6@eskimo.com> <CwnM98.55L@eskimo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:22:00 GMT
Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
: It turns out that pp0 wasn't starting up. Though I am not 100% sure
: how(or why), but apparently I must configure my AMI Enterprise IV EISA
: bus to disable mouse support. The bus utility always sets the default
: to enabled, so I have to remember to reset this option; the utility
: states that I should leave it enabled and disable it at CMOS. If I am
: on to something, then I am glad I disregarded this utility's message.
Well I was *not* onto something. pp0 comes up randomly. I explain
this in another message.
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>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What's up with my Exabyte?
Date: 25 Sep 1994 14:45:56 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <364gh4$juu@panix.com>
Hi.
Just last night, my Exabyte 8505 failed when trying to
do a backup. It's been running fine for months. When
I checked it this morning, both the lowest green light,
and the top yellow light were flashing continuously.
(Normally just the lowest green light is steadily on
when it's doing nothing.) Also, when I first put the
tape in, it ejected it after a few seconds.
Gnutar seems not to have a problem writing to it anyway,
but SafetyNet crapped out when it tried.
My SCSI controller is the DPT 2022. Any clue as to what's
going on or what the lights mean would be appreciated.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
rmation unless you know something I don't.
> It's been my experience that people in a position to know don't tell;
> if they did they would quickly be removed from a position to know. Are
> you in the beta program for 3.3? If so, your posting violates the
> agreement you signed not to talk about the status of 3.3. If not,
> then you really don't know what state 3.3 is in, do you?
I do know, but you wouldn't want me to tell would you? :-))
> >Don't expect to see any additional drivers from NeXT for 3.2. I'm sure
> >they're busy trying to get the (still mythical) driver kit ready for
3.3.
> >In the meantime, none of us out here in the NS third-party wasteland
can
> >even begin to get new drivers prepped for 3.3. With October on our
> >doorstep, a 3.3 release in November seems to be pure fantasy.
>
> I have no idea what you're talking about with the mythical driver kit.
> What part of it is mythical? Just because you don't have the 3.3
> driver kit, why do you assume there's no way it could be released in
> October?
>
> In general, I think it's a bad idea for you to broadcast your problems
> with NeXT on this newsgroup.
A. I wasn't "broacasting" my problems with NeXT in this posting and....
B. it is certainly my right to state my opinion regarding policies at NeXT
that I personally feel hurt all of us...and I will continue to do so. I
suggest you start a comp.sys.next.happyface group and you and the rest of
the fanatics who think that it's somehow unwise, improper, insulting or
unholy to discuss anything of a negative nature can all sit around and
talk about the "happy news from NeXT".
> While I don't question whether you have some valid grievances with
> some of the people at NeXT, I think you'd do well to recognize that
> not everyone at NeXT is the same. They are not a group mind. It
> amazes me that you insult and taunt the entire company, and then act
> all surprised when they don't want to do business with you.
> Consider if I walked up to you and said, "You're the stupidest guy
> I've ever met, you don't know how to write any code, why don't you
> hire me to do it for you?" What would your likely response be?
Your point is well taken. Steve Jobs is famous for doing this to
developers, telling them how stupid they and/or their software is...often
in front of big clients. Everyone at NeXT knows that you DO NOT invite
Steve Jobs in when you're doing a sales presentation. How do developers
react to this? They leave the platform. So I guess you're quite right.
> I have a number of good friends at NeXT, and as a business owner I
> consider it good policy not to insult the entire company even if
> someone working at NeXT upsets me. Instead, I either deal with that
> person or stop dealing with that person.
I DO have valid grievances with NeXT and you should note that I've avoided
discussing those here on the net and made a point of trying to kill those
threads. I have never stated or implied that "everyone at NeXT is the
same". I too have good relationships with a few people there, though
certainly not with certain folks at the top. That puts me in the
majority. NeXT's top management has been pissing off a number of large
hardware vendors recently and support for NeXT is waining quickly in those
companies. NeXT can't afford this if they plan to survive. This is not my
"opinion", nor am I under "non-disclosure" regarding their relationships
with hardware vendors. I am not insulting them, but I would like to tell
them to wise up before they sink their own ship...and ours along with it.
You obviously think this is unwise and insulting.....I couldn't disagree
more.
The biggest mistake we, as a community, ever made is in NOT letting NeXT
know when they make a bonehead move. We are entitled to our opinions and
they'd be unwise to ignore them. _You_ may want to keep the emperors new
clothes a secret, but don't expect everyone else to do the same. This is
not a religious order (though sometimes it's tough to tell the
difference).
>
> Talus may have written excellent drivers; your color portable may be
> really cool. However, I for one am not going to buy or recommend any
> products from your company until you stop this pointless feud with
> NeXT, and starting acting like their partner. (Which means not airing
> your dirty laundry in public, among other things.)
Let me get this straight. If I disagree with any of the policies of NeXT
management, you won't buy or recommend my products? Or, I can disagree,
but I just can't tell anybody, right? (Did you really read this before you
posted it?) Whether you buy our products or not is certainly up to you,
but it's not worth giving up my First Amendment rights for.
This is not a "pointless fued", though it has some of the same
characteristics, it goes far beyond that. Again, I am not airing my
"dirty laundry" in public...believe me, you'd get an earfull if I did.
NeXT is NOT our partner and they have rarely behaved as "partners" to
their developer community. This isn't any secret. While they have
definitely "favored" a few developers (and you sound like one of them),
they have put more than their share of them out of business. This is not
a slam against the individual employees. Some, like Dawn Jensen, do a
great job...within the guidelines set down by management. My personal
opinion is that most of the rank and file at NeXT are outstanding and
cooperative (and I wish they were running the company). I am also of the
opinion that developers, for the most part, are viewed as a "necessary
evil" by top management.
> Not because I love NeXT so much, but because I think you're committing
suicide and I don't want to be stranded with an unsupported machine.
>
I may be committing suicide. This is, after all, the "big stick" that
NeXT uses to keep people in line, isn't it? Say anything negative and
we'll put you out of business...right? I see that you're aware of their
policies. I don't want to be stranded with an unsupported machine either,
which is exactly where I'll be if they go broke.
> I don't believe a company like Talus can survive in the NeXT market
> unless NeXT likes it. Our market is just too small for that. If you
> continue to piss off NeXT, they'll make it harder for you to do
> business, and eventually you'll either decide to cut your losses or
> you'll run out of money.
It really sticks in NeXT's craw that Talus can survive...despite their
best efforts. NeXT couldn't make it any tougher on Talus if they worked
nights and weekends. You're quite right, we could choose, as most have,
to "cut their losses". If we do, it will be to develop for an operating
system that actually encourages developers and management that understands
that you can't continue to survive without third party software.
> Every time you take a shot at NeXT, what it's saying to me is that
> you've got a death wish for your company. I owe a lot of my company's
> success to referrals from NeXT, and you claim to owe a lot of your
> failures to NeXT's interferance. It seems obvious that the best thing
> for you is to make friends with NeXT. I don't care who started it, I
> don't care who did what to whom. Trial-by-net is never an appropriate
> way to solve a conflict. You may feel good when people post, "Garsh,
> I can't believe NeXT did that to you, that's just horrible," but I can
> assure you it's losing you business.
If it were up to us, we would be happy to cooperate with NeXT. They've
made it clear that that is not going to happen, despite our efforts.
Assuming that's true, do you suggest that we just withdraw from the
market? It would seem to be our only choice, right?
I DON'T feel good to have to be posting anything negative about NeXT. I
wish it was all sweetness and light. I wish NeXT was not heavy handed in
its dealing with just about everyone. But that's just not the case.
You are probably right. I'm sure that we lose a lot of business because
we're not "buddies" with NeXT and we certainly don't like losing what
little business there is out there. It could be that they'll get their
wish and drive us from the market (and that IS their wish, I assure you).
But that's our personal problem with them and we aren't "airing dirty
laundry" here. It is, however, related to their treatment of developers
(and others) in general and that's the business of all of us.
If they drive us from the market, and you find yourself short on drivers,
I'm sure you'll be the first one blame us for "committing suicide" or
accuse us of abandoning you (I've read these idiotic threads before when
NeXT drove other developers into bankruptcy). Probably the _last_ thing
you'll do is blame NeXT for driving off yet another long-time
developer....and if you _did_ blame them, you certainly wouldn't post it
here, right? :-))
Steve Sarich
President
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
No disclaimer necessary...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: pp0 Parallel Port Sporadically Allocates
Message-ID: <Cwp855.8I2@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:46:16 GMT
I noticed that NS successfully allocates the parallel port about 20%
of the time during system boot up. I made numerous adjustments to my
AMI Enterprise IV EISA system without affecting the odds.
Can anyone suggest the cause of this? The message I get is as follows:
"IO ParallelPort not allocated: controller not detected
at 0x378. _IOProbeDriver: No Such Device, device ParallelPort
unit 0"
Port 0x278 was no better. And NS won't let me configure the port to
IRQ5. Is there an alternate printer driver? Or, is there a way I can
allocate the ParallelPort after booting up? Is there a file that NS
uses that contains the allocation commands? Perhaps I could learn
what to do if I had a look at it.
Repeated observations reveal that ParallelPort allocation does not
occur in the exact same place of events during boot up; one time it
followed com0 allocation; another time it was allocated much later.
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>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: joris@econ.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: laserjet 4
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 12:41:10
Organization: UBC-econ
Message-ID: <joris.1.000CB004@econ.ubc.ca>
Hi folks,
I'm thinking about buying a Pentium and have NEXTSTEP installed. What sort of
things should I keep in mind? Further, I have a Laserjet 4 non-postscript
printer. In the NEXT hardware list it says you require a postscript printer.
Is there any working way around that problem? Thanks.
Joris
joris@econ.ubc.ca
From: kuocy@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to from a CD rom drive ?
Date: 25 Sep 1994 20:35:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <364mu2$hjh@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I recently destroy the file "dev/rsd0a" so that I need to install a new copy of Next 3.2 to the haed drive. However my system can not boot directly from the CD rom drive even though I chang the boot device to the CD rom drive ( I do
bsd(1,0,0)sdmach =sd1 in the rom monitor and the CD rom drive is device 1)
According the next answer, it seems I need a floppy drive to boot from the CD rom drive. However, I have no floppy drive at hands and want to install the new os as soon as possibe. My cube has a optical disk. Is there any way that I can install the new os except to get a floppy drive ?
Actually, I have try followings method:
1. I do /usr/etc/disk -B /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom /dev/rod0a.
2. reboot the system and type bod(0,0,0)odmach =od0 in the ROM monitor.
3. The system try to boot from CD ROM drive but get a error message like :
exception #4 (0x10) at 0x80000
Any help appreciate,
Chun-Yen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Performance of EtherLink III? Does it suck?
Message-ID: <Cwp7Bo.8K@clive>
Sender: paul@clive (Paul Marcos)
Organization: dCode
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 18:28:36 GMT
I just put 2 EtherLink III card into my machines. One PC is running
Windows 3.1 and NT. The other is running NeXTSTEP 3.2. When I do an ftp
from Windows to NeXTSTEP, the read peformance is just where I'd expect it
(on the order of 10MB per minute), whereas the write performance is
horrible...about 1MB per minute. I read in the NeXT docs that the
EtherLink III has small buffers and that this may cause problems reading
information from the network. Is this the cause of the poor performance?
When I do a netstat -i I get the following:
Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll
lo0 1536 loopback localhost 1390 0 1390 0 0
en0 1500 140.174 clive 601 0 438 0 0
en0* 1500 none none 601 69 438 0 0
The interesting thing that caught my eye was the Ierrs column on en0*.
What should I be doing or looking at to try to fix this problem?
Thanks.
Paul
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From: laurent@di.epfl.ch (Laurent Bendel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 50 mhz '040 Accelerator Board Update
Date: 22 Sep 1994 12:39:06 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <35rtta$5hf@elna.ethz.ch>
References: <35ptur$8fl@nntp.crl.com>
> I'm please to report that we've completed an initial set of benchmarks on
> the 50 mhz accelerator board for black hardware. It is fully compatible
> with every application we've tested, and gives an average performance
> increase over the 33 mhz Turbo board of 25-30%. We'll be benchmarking
> it against the 25 mhz board tomorrow, and will be posting the results
> to the net, and making them available on a WWW site as well.
Would that beast work on a non-turbo (030) board?
--
Laurent Bendel -- laurent@arch.ethz.ch
CAAD - ETH Zuerich
Switzerland
From: mikef@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Performance of EtherLink III? Does it suck?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 00:31:28 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3654p0$ljk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <Cwp7Bo.8K@clive>
In article <Cwp7Bo.8K@clive> dcode@cyclesoft.com (Paul Marcos) writes:
> I just put 2 EtherLink III card into my machines. One PC is running
> Windows 3.1 and NT. The other is running NeXTSTEP 3.2. When I do an
ftp
> from Windows to NeXTSTEP, the read peformance is just where I'd expect
it
> (on the order of 10MB per minute), whereas the write performance is
> horrible...about 1MB per minute. I read in the NeXT docs that the
> EtherLink III has small buffers and that this may cause problems reading
> information from the network. Is this the cause of the poor
performance?
Yup. This is the case. When running NeXTstep, the Etherlink III will
work great for sending but will suck hard for receiving. Although NeXT's
excuse for the poor performance is the card's tiny buffers, the card
apparently rocks under Linux. It seems reasonable to believe that--while
small buffers are the cause--a better driver might be a real solution.
Someone had discussed the possibility of working of the Linux driver code
and re-writing the Etherlink III driver. I don't know if anyone is
actually doing this.
Otherwise, there really is nothing you can do. I get FTP sends at up to
300k/sec and receives at up to 25k/sec. Err, umm...oh well....
--
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"Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"--T.S.Eliot
"...shaped together in real-time: my television and my
subconscious mind..."--Machines of Loving Grace
From: werche@saba.rutgers.edu (ChiWei Che)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can the OD in cube be used by PC or ...
Date: 25 Sep 1994 21:09:08 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Message-ID: <3656vk$icv@saba.rutgers.edu>
Summary: Can the OD be used by PC or ...
Keywords: OD nextcube
Hi:
A question to all next experts:
We have a next cube in our lab which is no more used, and we try to
pull out the hardware so as to maxmize the usage. I found the Optical
Drive (256 Meg capacity), and the manual claimed to be SCSI one. I wonder
any one out there trying to use the OD in a PC or workstation ? Any
manufactory made the SCSI card that plug into the ISA or VLB board that
could connect to the OD ? The reason for me to point out is the back pins
of OD is 20 pins connection instead of 25 or 50 commonly used in nowadays
SCSI adaptors. Any information or poit to the right place are appreciated.
Che
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables and NS 3.3 (Vapor) ? (NeXT flames)
Date: 26 Sep 1994 03:47:13 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
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References: <362u7e$h9@yucca.omnigroup.com>
In article <362u7e$h9@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William
Shipley) writes:
> While I don't question whether you have some valid grievances with
> some of the people at NeXT, I think you'd do well to recognize that
> not everyone at NeXT is the same. They are not a group mind.
It's amazing how many times I've seen examples of various
NeXT folks "marketing" attempts working to cross
purposes, or leaving gaps. One hand often does not know
what the other is doing at NeXT. When you meet these folks
on a one-to-one basis, most seem like incredibly cool and
talented people - yet the general results or the
corporate effort don't always match.
> I have a number of good friends at NeXT, and as a business owner I
> consider it good policy not to insult the entire company even if
> someone working at NeXT upsets me. Instead, I either deal with that
> person or stop dealing with that person.
Many NEXTSTEP ISVs do not enjoy the history and current
relationship that Omni Development, Inc. (and some
others) seems to have with NeXT.
Do you believe you have an objective view of what it's like
to be an ISV that has struggled for a share in a small market
without NeXT's even acknowledging their existence? I've
seen NeXT recommend the "Big Boys" to new NEXTSTEP sites
even after the "Big Boys" have hosed over other clients,
while smaller ISVs that aren't a part of the Kickback
Channel, but are better in almost every way, aren't
informed (allowed) to even bid for the new work.
Who wins in these situations? Nobody.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Drivers for Matrox MGA card
In-Reply-To: gel@cs.mcgill.ca's message of 24 Sep 1994 16:57:44 GMT
To: gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep25130843@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:08:43 GMT
In article <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) writes:
I'm getting myself a Pentium-60 with a Matrox Ultima video card. I called
NeXT and they don't have any support for that card. Does anyone know if there
are any drivers available for NeXTStep 3.2 and the Matrox MGA cards...
No, nor will there be any. The Matrox MGA can not directly map its
entire memory and all NS drivers depend on that.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Is my configuration NextStep happy?
In-Reply-To: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net's message of 24 Sep 1994 18:56:59 -0400
To: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep25130455@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <BWH.94Sep24182641@kato.prl.ufl.edu> <362arr$hi0@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 17:04:54 GMT
In article <362arr$hi0@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
1. Get the GPT driver from Talus (info@talus.com)
The mach64 is faster than the 964, and from what I've heard, the NeXT
964 driver is buggy.
That is highly debatable. Remember that most tests of graphics cards
you see in PC magazines are Windows tests. These tests use the
graphics processor to offload tasks from the CPU. NeXTstep doesn't do
that. As a consequence Windows ratings and NeXTstep speed are largely
unrelated. Probably you'll get a higher correlation coefficient with
DOS tests. And S3 964 based cards seem to be almost as fast as mach64
cards under Windows and faster under DOS. That being said only a real
NS test will give a definite answer.
4. NexStor NCR SCSI. If this is the same as the NCR 53C8xx, you can get
the driver from Talus.
If you can ever get answers from Talus. I wrote to them almost 4
weeks ago and got no answer. I wrote again and after a week got a
very short answer. I still had a few questions, so I wrote to them
again and received no answer. Sending my questions repeatedly to
various different people and addresses at Talus, have still yielded
absolutely nothing except an advertising mass mailing for their
notebook computers which I don't have the slightest interest in.
Finally I gave up and bought an Adaptec 2940 which works just fine
with the NeXT driver. However, I'll never again deal with Talus if I
can at all avoid it. Those people obviously have no interest in
selling their products.
5. SB Pro. Not supported in 3.2, although there is a PD driver available.
NS 3.3 should have SB drivers, including SB16.
That's true, but why go with a SB Pro ? They don't have a very good
reputation under DOS and there are better choices available under NS.
For example, the Audiotrix Pro seems to be a much better card.
6. Internal modems - I've had people tell me they don't work under NS 3.2.
I haven't tried my Supra 288i yet.
Yes, they do. I've installed internal modems under NS 3.2 and they
work just fine.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: My NS/FIP success story
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Sep25215739@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 01:57:39 GMT
As some of you may remember over the past half year I've been publicly
agonizing about how to replace my old mono non-turbo slab. A few
people have written to me wondering how I decided in the end, so here
are the results.
I wouldn't dream of giving up NeXTstep, but nor did I want to wait
another year for a new machine. This narrowed the choice to either an
Intel or an HP machine. In my price range ($7k-$10k for a complete
high-end system) that meant either a quality 90 MHz Pentium or an
HP712/80. In the end I decided for the Pentium for these reasons (in
order of importance to me).
* Easy customization and expand-ability
* Availability of alternative versions of UN*X if NeXT should fold
(and I don't count HPUX as an acceptable alternative)
* Better integer performance
* Better price
* More mature OS version
That being decided, I went on to choose a configuration. After
countless hours of reading these groups, all the PC and SCSI groups,
not to mention the various mailing lists, half a dozen industry rags
and listening to everybody who would talk to me on the subject, a few
weeks ago I ordered this:
A Dell XPS 90 (because Dell has a good reputation for both quality and
performance without charging too much of a premium for it) mini-tower
(to fit in all my peripherals) with a combo disk drive (because the
upgrade to it is very inexpensive and I still sometimes need to use
old disks) and a Lexmark keyboard (because I like the feel of those
IBM keyboards), 32 MBytes of RAM (Dell would have charged me another
$1.8k for another 32 MBytes) and a 540 MByte IDE harddisk (because it
was required and I wanted to keep DOS on a separate disk anyway)
A Seagate Barracuda ST12550 2 GByte harddisk (it still is the fastest
SCSI hard disk and the 4 GByte version isn't widely available yet).
Adaptec 2940 PCI host adapter (because it is the only PCI SCSI adapter
supported by NeXT (since 3.3pr2) and Talus made it clear that they
didn't want my business)
#9 GXE 64Pro graphics card with 4 MBytes of VRAM (as it is the best
performing graphics adapter supported by NeXT and I decided against
ever again dealing with Talus)
Viewsonic 21 monitor (as the GXE64Pro driver requires a 76 Hz refresh
rate which only very few 21" monitors support at higher resolutions)
All in all the system cost about $7k. In addition, I moved a Toshiba
3401 CD-ROM and an Archive Python 2550 DAT drive from my slab.
The final components of the system arrived last week and I assembled
the system. Including the installation of NeXTstep and the various
third party components and configuration, the whole process took only
a few hours. And most of that time was spent playing musical devices
to physically fit everything into the machine. There were no
glitches, hangups, crashes, incompatibilities, display flaws or
unexpected problems of any kind whatsoever. The system even preformed
better than advertized and the various warnings about problems with
additional disk drives, bios revisions or some SCSI ids turned out to
be unnecessary. Even the display card preformed better than
advertized by supporting 1600x1200 in 16-bit color at 68 Hz which may
actually be a usable resolution if you have a monitor which can handle
it.
What can I say about the performance ? It is just very zippy, no
matter what I do. NXBench reports over 130k dhrystones/second and
NXFactors between 1.0 and 1.6 depending on display configuration. The
disk writes at close to 1 MByte/second and reads at over 2
MBytes/second. Subjectively the window manager in 16-bit color feels
more responsive than the old window manager in 2-bit gray. Even the
mouse feels very nice and moves smoothly. No matter what I tried the
system hasn't crashed on me a single time yet (which is more than I
can say for my slab during the same period).
The only item I'm not entirely satisfied with is the monitor. It
seems fuzzy and have too large color misconvergence in parts of the
screen. I may exchange it for another monitor (suggestions ? One
which can handle 1600x1200@68Hz and also VGA ?).
But on the whole it seems like you _can_ get a good, stable NS/FIP
system today, if you plan before you order your machine and buy
quality components from reputable companies.
There are a few things I want to add which I still haven't bought. In
particular, I'm looking for a cheap and well-supported network card to
connect the machine to my old slab. I'm thinking of an Intel
Etherexpress. Also I still need a sound system. Probably I'll go
with the Audiotrix Pro and the Altec Lansing ACS3 speaker system. To
run SLIP directly to the machine, I'll buy a V.34 internal modem as
soon as they become available. And when prices come down a little
bit, I'll add another 32 MBytes of RAM. And the beauty of it all is
that it will still be just one box instead of the half-dozen which
constitute my slab system.
Carl Edman
From: fxg@faramir.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: US Robotics modem NIGHTMARES with NeXTSTEP
Date: 26 Sep 1994 14:51:21 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
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In-reply-to: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org's message of Thu, 22 Sep 1994 01:24:29 GMT
In article <CwIBwt.nM@fragile.termfrost.org> kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) writes:
ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) writes:
>Does anyone out there use a US Robotics Sportster modem with Motorola
>hardware to dial out and connect to remote systems using tip, SLIP, or
>PPP? If you do PLEASE advise.
Having no hardware flow control could cause all sorts of fun and mysterious
things to happen.... A lot of Mac cables _won't_ work, I hear (?)
I can confirm *that*! After soldering 2 mini-DIN-8 <-> DB-25 cables, I got
myself a cute 'Mac modem cable with hardware handshaking' Nice Try! The RTS/CTS
lines from the modem were grounded, for the computer, they were taken from DCD
and CTS! Maybe that makes sense for Macs, but for NeXT, it's murder. Call
yourself lucky if you get nothing but 'device busy'. The alternative is tip
hanging for REAL good. That is, before 'connected' or after '[EOT]', with
nothing to kill it but *unsynchronized shutdown*!
On the other topics in this thread: I always use 'tip dialer', since tip gives
me an 'unknown modem response code <0x0>' when it's supposed to dial *after the
modem has dialed). No real problem, since uucp and such does its diling ok and
I use tip for basic tests only, so I cant stand that rather basic interface in
exchange for seeing exactly what's going on.
But there's some real Problem I'm stuck with:
When trying to fax from a noname 14.4 class 2 fax modem with the interfax
driver (which is cross-linked with a class 2 driver), the modem never stops
sending of its own, with the other side receiving nothing but blank paper! Is
there some mor4e recent class 2 driver? Some special modem setup? Some
recommendable low-cost modem?
Please no flame if it's a faq, I'm just scanning this group and appending ths Q
to a posting I'm submitting anyway. Thanx.
--
Felix
(fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de
NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
From: fxg@tolkien.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [black] Slab internal floppy outage
Date: 26 Sep 1994 12:47:53 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
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As the subject says, my internal ED floppy went bust --- for three days!
Someday, it mde screechy noises when I inserted a disk after power-up, esteemed
it unreadable (fd0 errors in the Console) and offered to eject or initialize
it. Shoot.
In the evening, it tried to recalibrate a lot, read the disk label correctly,
but scrambled the directory. No screeching.
Two days later, everything's back to normal. But is it? Has anyone had this
before? How long did your drive last? Should I get another one 'just in case'?
If so, will any ol' drive just work? Thanks.
--
Felix
(fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de
NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
From: fstiffo@unive.it (Francesco Stiffoni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation?
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:06:02 +0900
Organization: University of Venice
Message-ID: <fstiffo-2609941206020001@157.138.55.12>
I seeking information about the new Canon workstation on intel tecnology.
There is somebody, that uses it, so kind to comunicate to me his
experiences and more technical informations?
Thank you in davance
--
Francesco Stiffoni
University of Venice
Linguistic Department
Laboratory of Computational Linguistic
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 08:16:49 CDT
From: <U55905@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <94269.081649U55905@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems in up grading PS/2 model 30 (286). HELP!!!!!
I up graded my PS/2 30 from 1M to 2M using (MT 4C1024DJ) SIMMs. The problem
is that when i setup my PC by running the automatic setup program the
PC doesn't recognizes the new SIMMs and configures a RAM of 512k instead of 2M.
I replaced the old SIMMs and the machine worked fine.
Do i need to play with any of the jumper switches or the SIMMs are not
compatable???? Please respond.
Thanx
Naveed.
U55905@uicvm.uic.edu
From: hoff@sorge (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 10:11:14 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Distribution: world
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Steve Sarich III (Nick_the_Geek@Talus.com) wrote:
[yum]
>Considering the PCI support in 3.2, we didn't do too badly overall. We
>are working to improve the driver for 3.2 and we will update it again for
>3.3, whenever the driver kit for 3.3 ships.
Can you say already something about the procedure how people will get hold
of their drivers, or about estimated update costs for 3.2/3.3, respectively ?
The driver wasn't exactly cheap, and wrestling with the german distributor
I got the driver from wasn't very funny, either. You could e.g. e-mail the
update.pkg to registered owners.. 8-)
Whenever 3.3 arrives I really don't want to sit here fumbling with drivers
that MIGHT PERHAPS work. The latest HWCG also says that a NCR 53c8xx driver
is targeted for 4Q94, perhaps it will be in 3.3. I really don't want to spend
another load of $$ for something that should come with the OS (good morning,
Upper_Management@NeXT.com).
\begin{sigh}
I've been working with a 2 GB hd without tape backup since March, and
upgrading to 3.3 without a full backup really isn't something I would
like to try. I can't imagine I'm the only one who thinks that this
situation is not acceptable.
\end{sigh}
Also, a humble suggestion (gosh, something constructive :) - it would be
nice if one would get feedback when sending in bug reports - nothing fancy,
just along the lines of 'Bug is acknowledged, status: (known|unknown|fixed).
This would also tell me that the mail wasn't shot or kidnapped somewhere on
it's way to Moscow.
Keep it up,
Holger
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From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Performance of EtherLink III? Does it suck?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 15:01:20 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <366no0$mfe@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3654p0$ljk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Mike Fleming writes
> Someone had discussed the possibility of working of the Linux driver
> code and re-writing the Etherlink III driver. I don't know if
> anyone is actually doing this.
>
> Otherwise, there really is nothing you can do. I get FTP sends at up to
> 300k/sec and receives at up to 25k/sec. Err, umm...oh well....
>
The major problem is not the driver but the NFS read size. Everytime NFS
does a read it requests 8KB which is a bit too much for the adapter's
buffer (2K) and so it overflows and a software delay of 3 seconds ocurrs
everytime a packet is lost. This 3 second delay is the killer and adds up
to the anoying delays when reading large files. Adjusting the NFS read
size down to 1K gets rid of this 3-second delay as I remember.
Ricardo J. Parada
Pencom Software
Austin, Texas
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From: troyw@csn.org (Troy Weingart)
Subject: Leasing an INTEL NS Box
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:11:11 GMT
I am considering leasing an INTEL machinge to run NEXTSTEP on. A six month
lease would be ideal. I would appreciate any help you could offer on the
merits of leasing. Most importantly which INTEL machine would be the "best"
to run NEXTSSTEP on?
Thanks
Troy
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 08:33:42 CDT
From: <U55905@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <94269.083342U55905@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is there any software which can detect the bad disk-drives???
Our computer lab has about 50 PS/2 (model 30) and people complain about bad
sectors being put on there disks. I was wondering if there is any way to
distingushing the bad PCs from the good ones. Could any one of you comp. viz
help me out? Appricated -:)
Naveed
u55905@uicvm.uic.edu
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 08:26:29 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
>While several people have had problems with the NCR driver with particular
>hardware combinations, hundreds of people have had no trouble whatsoever.
>Considering the PCI support in 3.2, we didn't do too badly overall. We
>are working to improve the driver for 3.2 and we will update it again for
>3.3, whenever the driver kit for 3.3 ships.
The NCR driver runs stable, yes. But almost all people I talked to reported
the same low write performance as I notice, no matter what disk drives they
use. Can someone explain the reason this low write performance to me, because
I just cannot understand it. "Particular hardware" is a very vague information.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables and NS 3.3 (Vapor) ?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 08:32:31 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes:
>I don't believe a company like Talus can survive in the NeXT market
>unless NeXT likes it.
^^^^
Must be "unless SJ likes it".
Wil, you know who makes decisions like that at NeXT.
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From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Re: My NS/FIP success story
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:27:11 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.94Sep25215739@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> The only item I'm not entirely satisfied with is the monitor. It
> seems fuzzy and have too large color misconvergence in parts of the
> screen. I may exchange it for another monitor (suggestions ? One
> which can handle 1600x1200@68Hz and also VGA ?).
May I suggest you look at the new Philips Brilliance series (21A I guess).
The 21 inch version can handle up to 1600 x 1280 and scans up to 160Mhz x
82khz (which means you can certainly display the highest resolution at the
68 mhz you spoke about).
Hope this helps,
Alexander Lamb
Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
P.S. I would nevertheless wait for comdex where maybe :-) some nice new
flat panel displays could be available...
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is my configuration NextStep happy?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 12:50:30 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <366u4m$4n6@anshar.shadow.net>
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Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
: In article <362arr$hi0@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
: 1. Get the GPT driver from Talus (info@talus.com)
: The mach64 is faster than the 964, and from what I've heard, the NeXT
: 964 driver is buggy.
: That is highly debatable. Remember that most tests of graphics cards
: you see in PC magazines are Windows tests.
: And S3 964 based cards seem to be almost as fast as mach64
: cards under Windows and faster under DOS. That being said only a real
: NS test will give a definite answer.
I WAS referring to NeXTSTEP drivers. I have read a number of reports from
#9GX64 users about problematic NeXT drivers. Under ANY environment, the
mach64 is fast.
: 4. NexStor NCR SCSI. If this is the same as the NCR 53C8xx, you can get
: the driver from Talus.
: If you can ever get answers from Talus. I wrote to them almost 4
: weeks ago and got no answer. I wrote again and after a week got a
: very short answer. I still had a few questions, so I wrote to them
: again and received no answer. Sending my questions repeatedly to
: various different people and addresses at Talus, have still yielded
: absolutely nothing except an advertising mass mailing for their
: notebook computers which I don't have the slightest interest in.
: Finally I gave up and bought an Adaptec 2940 which works just fine
: with the NeXT driver. However, I'll never again deal with Talus if I
: can at all avoid it. Those people obviously have no interest in
: selling their products.
In my experience, you've got to call Talus (713-561-0700) to get answers.
They have been very helpful. As for the 2940 driver, WHAT 2940 driver?
Unless you have 3.3 pr2 (which I don't) you'll have to wait for 3.3 to be
released. Until then, I've got a 2940 sitting in my desk drawer.
: 5. SB Pro. Not supported in 3.2, although there is a PD driver available.
: NS 3.3 should have SB drivers, including SB16.
: That's true, but why go with a SB Pro ? They don't have a very good
: reputation under DOS and there are better choices available under NS.
: For example, the Audiotrix Pro seems to be a much better card.
I wasn't suggesting going with an SB Pro - an 8-bit card. The SB16 should
be supported in 3.3, and is the best choice if the system will be used
under multiple operating systems. SB is THE ONLY standard for PC's.
Micro$oft has even given up trying to compete with Creative (imagine
that!), and has adopted SB as the Windows standard.
: 6. Internal modems - I've had people tell me they don't work under NS 3.2.
: I haven't tried my Supra 288i yet.
: Yes, they do. I've installed internal modems under NS 3.2 and they
: work just fine.
Will that serial driver problem ever get fixed? Two serial ports are not
enough.
- Jay
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Drivers for Matrox MGA card
Date: 26 Sep 1994 12:54:16 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
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Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
: In article <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) writes:
: I'm getting myself a Pentium-60 with a Matrox Ultima video card. I called
: NeXT and they don't have any support for that card. Does anyone know if there
: are any drivers available for NeXTStep 3.2 and the Matrox MGA cards...
: No, nor will there be any. The Matrox MGA can not directly map its
: entire memory and all NS drivers depend on that.
Several months back, I called Matrox to ask them if they knew of any
drivers. I got this response: "we are not interested in Unix" and they
promptly hung up.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 1200C/PS Printer
Date: 26 Sep 1994 17:05:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <CwnM98.55L@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
>Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
>
>: Do I need a 1200C/PS flavored PPD?
>
>This question still holds. The PaintJet XL300 seems to be compatible.
>Odd thing about the Preview.Print.Options... is that, after I make a
>selection(such as high resolution) the Preview panels disappear and
>nothing happens. Is this a bug?
I don't think your problem with the printer has anything to do with
the lack of PPD, but you should always use the one for the printer
unless none is available. For the case of HP DJ 1200C/PS, Adobe
has it on their FTP server (get the Windows version, not the Mac):
ftp.adobe.com:/pub/adobe/PPD/win
-r--r--r-- 1 root 15 18167 Mar 29 1994 hp1200c1.ppd
Get that in ASCII mode ftp (or translate crlf->lf), and rename it
sensibly e.g., HP_DeskJet_1200C%PS.ppd for NS and put it into
/LocalLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj. PrintManager should show
it in the list of printer types.
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From: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP config help, please
Date: 26 Sep 1994 17:33:32 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics
Message-ID: <3670lc$4k6@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Keywords: HP keyboard microphone speaker
I'm about to order three HP 715's to run NeXTStep.
1) Which keyboard should I order, the PC or Unix style? What's the
difference? How do the Alternate and Command keys work on the two
keyboards?
2) My understanding is that the 715's (unlike the 712's) only come with
jacks for microphone and speakers. I'm looking for "standard" audio
capability (like the black boxes), not super sound quality, and would
prefer speakers to headphones. What have people done about this?
3) Any other words of advice about our config?
thanks,
--
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Ohio State University
(614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
From: seanl@ringding.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Incredible Freezing Motherboard
Date: 26 Sep 1994 17:26:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <367092$5ud@umd5.umd.edu>
I posted a little while ago on this, but have more information since then:
We've got an old Color Slab which has never worked, it would seem. I'm
trying to get it up and running (I'm new to the place), but am having
trouble.
The symptoms:
1) The machine boots fine, then:
2) After 30 minutes or so, the machine hangs HARD. This happens even if
instead of booting the machine you just let it sit in the monitor for
30 minutes.
3) If you reboot the machine, it doesn't respond at _all_. It doesn't even
get to the point where you can see _anything_, no monitor, no
"Testing System", nothing. A blank screen. An LED on the board (bottom-
left) will repeatedly blink (5 times in a row, I think).
4) After a few days, or after yanking out all the memory, the machine
reboots (go back to step 1).
"It's Memory"
I don't think so. I've yanked out combinations of SIMMs, and no matter
what SIMM collection is in there, the problem still occurs. It's
possible I've got a whole lot of bad SIMMs, but I doubt it seriously.
"It's Heat"
Then why would it take _days_ to be able to reboot?
The only thing I think it could be is some capacitance buildup, but is
there anything I can do for it? This place doesn't have the money for
fixing the box, but we can't give it away or sell it either (it's a
donation), so it's looking moribund if we can't get it up and running. :-(
Thanks for anyone's help!
Sean Luke U Maryland at College Park
seanl@cs.umd.edu Today's Chemical: Aluminum Zirconium Tetrachlorohydrex GLY
From: vanhalen@bnr.ca (Michael Shandony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anybody is using the new Canon workstation?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 13:09:26 -0500
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Message-ID: <3672om$dnt@crchh921.bnr.ca>
References: <fstiffo-2609941206020001@157.138.55.12>
In article <fstiffo-2609941206020001@157.138.55.12>,
Francesco Stiffoni <fstiffo@unive.it> wrote:
>I seeking information about the new Canon workstation on intel tecnology.
>There is somebody, that uses it, so kind to comunicate to me his
>experiences and more technical informations?
I have not had any personal experience using Canon's object.station 41, but
here are some places where you can get information from:
Canon
[800] 349-6007
Canon FactsLine
[800] 526-4345
Kelly Geiger
[800] 349-6007
kgeiger@ato.canon.com
I do not speak for Canon, Next, or anyone else.
=============================
Mike Shandony
Bell-Northern Research, Inc.
vanhalen@bnr.ca
====================================================================
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of BNR.
====================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pjclark@nols.edu (Patrick J Clark)
Subject: Black Q: N4005 vs N4005A?
Message-ID: <Cwqw2I.H13@nols.edu>
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8594]
Organization: National Outdoor Leadership School
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:20:42 GMT
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
We're looking at a non-turbo NeXTstation for sale with a 21" color
Hitachi model# N4005 with builder plate date of May 1991. We're not
familiar with the history and particulars of those color 21" monitors.
Can someone say what the difference (if any) between a N4005 and N4005A
is?
Was there any difference in the 21" monitors that shipped with the
non-Turbo and the Turbo NeXTstations?
Anything else I should be asking about a Black 21" color monitor?
Thanks,
patrick
pjclark@nols.edu
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is Adaptec 2940 or NCR PCI SCSI Faster?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 18:54:53 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3675dt$84j@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <3666o2$638@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
In article <3666o2$638@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@sorge (Holger
Hoffstaette) writes:
> Steve Sarich III (Nick_the_Geek@Talus.com) wrote:
>
> [yum]
> >Considering the PCI support in 3.2, we didn't do too badly overall. We
> >are working to improve the driver for 3.2 and we will update it again
for
> >3.3, whenever the driver kit for 3.3 ships.
>
> Can you say already something about the procedure how people will get
hold
> of their drivers, or about estimated update costs for 3.2/3.3,
respectively ?
> The driver wasn't exactly cheap, and wrestling with the german
distributor
> I got the driver from wasn't very funny, either. You could e.g. e-mail
the
> update.pkg to registered owners.. 8-)
This is still unclear, but we'll certainly keep you updated. This isn't a
stall, it's just that we don't have a clue as to what NeXT will do
regarding this particular driver. This driver should have been free to
you in the first place. NCR has wanted to buy this driver from us since
we wrote it. They would have provided it to NeXT, along with the source,
who could have provided it to you for free. This was our intention from
the beginning.
NeXT management, however, had other ideas. They have insisted that NCR go
out and hire another third party to re-invent the wheel. This is costing
them substantially more than we offered to sell it to them for and it will
delay the driver by months, but NeXT is insisting that they shouldn't buy
anything from Talus (so much for a free-market economy). You can imagine
how happy NCR is about this. Probably about as happy as you and I are.
We'd just as soon not sell drivers to end users either. The cost of
support on a SCSI driver really makes it a loser for us financially.
>
> Whenever 3.3 arrives I really don't want to sit here fumbling with
drivers
> that MIGHT PERHAPS work. The latest HWCG also says that a NCR 53c8xx
driver
> is targeted for 4Q94, perhaps it will be in 3.3. I really don't want to
spend
> another load of $$ for something that should come with the OS (good
morning,
> Upper_Management@NeXT.com).
And we are unsure of the financial advisability of writing a driver for
3.3 that may or may not be included for free, OR that may or may not work.
So you see, we have the same problems you do.
>
> \begin{sigh}
> I've been working with a 2 GB hd without tape backup since March, and
> upgrading to 3.3 without a full backup really isn't something I would
> like to try. I can't imagine I'm the only one who thinks that this
> situation is not acceptable.
> \end{sigh}
We are working on this problem, believe it or not. Part of the problem is
that we don't have all of the many possible types of drives that are out
there on the market and it's impossible for us to duplicate problems on
hardware we don't have. With PCI unsupported under 3.2, writing the
driver to be completely generic is nearly impossible. We have both a Sony
and an HP DAT that we use in Moscow and in Houston and they work fine. We
have a plan in the works to get additional drives debugged. We'll post
something when we've accomplished this. I wish I could tell you more
about it, but it's confidential at the moment.
> Also, a humble suggestion (gosh, something constructive :) - it would be
> nice if one would get feedback when sending in bug reports - nothing
fancy,
> just along the lines of 'Bug is acknowledged, status:
(known|unknown|fixed).
> This would also tell me that the mail wasn't shot or kidnapped somewhere
on
> it's way to Moscow.
Thanks...it's nice to hear some constructive criticism (at least as
opposed to the other kind :-) Our email system in Moscow sucks big-time.
Add to that the fact that the engineers are getting around 100 pieces of
email a day and we end up with a real log jam. We apologize for this and
we'd like to promise that it will improve, but probably the best solution
is for us to just post updates on the NCR driver here and at least
eliminate the "info" questions going to Moscow...or they'll never get
anything written. Again, our apologies.
>
> Keep it up,
>
We'd like to.
Steve Sarich
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pentium 90MHz system from Zenon
Date: 26 Sep 1994 18:46:18 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3674tq$384@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
A Pentium 90 MHz PCI system is available from Zenon for a very
attractive price. Approx. $4000 for the following configuration:
1) 32Mb memory
2) 540 Mb fast SCSI-2
3) Mag 17" display
4) SCSI CD-ROM
5) 2Mb ATI Mach 64 PCI video card
The motherboard is by Intel, the SCSI controller by NCR.
The salesperson I talked to didn't seem to know more about
NEXTSTEP than the name.
Questions:
Does anyone have NEXTSTEP experience
with this system or a similar one?
Any comments on any of the components?
Supported or not? Drivers available?
I have listed as many details as I know. Please comment if
you know anything that I missed, like CD-ROM manufacturer,
more complete specifications of SCSI and graphics cards,
more details and caveats about the Intel motherboard, etc.
---
Andreas Windemuth
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From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Controllers for 2Gb Drives
Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:41:22 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <367852$hp8@godot.cc.duq.edu>
Folks,
We just received a machine from Dell that we wanted to run NeXTstep
on, (and they knew it) and we ordered it with a 2Gb drive. When it arrived,
DOS reported 1Gb on the drive. After some checking around we found that
the Adaptec 1740 was running in standard mode and to get 2Gb on the drive
we needed to run it in enhanced mode.
The problem here is that NeXTstep 3.2 doesn't function with the 174x
series in enhanced mode. I tried to retrieve the driver for the adaptec 274x
card from ftp.next.com in the hopes that is would be backward compatible with
the 174x series but the archive at NeXT is corrupt. It unpacks from its
compressed form ok but the .tar file in the .pkg is corrupt. I tried several
times each time with the same result.
So, what we're thinking of doing is replacing the 1740 with either
a BusLogic or a DPT. Can anyone here stand up and say that they've got a 2GB
or larger drive running on one of these cards, and if so which one.
Thanks.
--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: Re: help! slab won't power down.
Message-ID: <Cwp0pB.GB7@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
References: <35phcq$4d@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 16:05:34 GMT
In article <35phcq$4d@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> wehmeier@acf4.nyu.edu (wehmeier) writes:
>
> I suspect this has come up before, but...
>
> my nexstation won't power off after a shutdown from
> the keyboard, but reboots immediately. sometimes after
> trying this three times in a row it eventually shuts
> down. how to fix this?
>
> ps. i just upgraded the eeprom, so maybe there are some
> nvram settings i don't know about?
>
Your preference.app setting for Power is probably switched to turn it on after
shutdown.
antoine
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which P5-90 MB to get???
Date: 26 Sep 1994 19:33:24 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3677m4$6jp@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <1994Sep23.142753.22880@il.us.swissbank.com>
In article <1994Sep23.142753.22880@il.us.swissbank.com> hendryj@mcs.com
writes:
>
> Didn's someone from NeXT say they were adding SMP to NeXTSTEP? (At Expo,
I
> think)
Didn't NeXT say since 1989 they were adding SMP to NeXTSTEP?
---
Andreas Windemuth
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|New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu
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From: jwshin@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Jinwoo Shin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Non-Scsi CDROM support?
Date: 26 Sep 94 21:11:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <jwshin.780613906@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU>
Will NS FIP ever support installation from non-scsi cdrom?
--
Jinwoo Shin jwshin@eecs.berkeley.edu
System Administrator
Berkeley Sensor and Actuator Center
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What's up with my Exabyte?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 21:57:31 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <367g4b$l4p@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <364gh4$juu@panix.com>
In article <364gh4$juu@panix.com>,
David Lambert <dcl@homer.uu.panix.com> wrote:
>Hi.
>
>Just last night, my Exabyte 8505 failed when trying to
>do a backup. It's been running fine for months. When
>I checked it this morning, both the lowest green light,
>and the top yellow light were flashing continuously.
>(Normally just the lowest green light is steadily on
>when it's doing nothing.) Also, when I first put the
>tape in, it ejected it after a few seconds.
>
>Gnutar seems not to have a problem writing to it anyway,
>but SafetyNet crapped out when it tried.
>
>My SCSI controller is the DPT 2022. Any clue as to what's
>going on or what the lights mean would be appreciated.
>
I believe its time to insert a cleaning tape. The newer drives
keep track of usage. After a cleaning cycle, the lights should clear.
If not, its some internal problem that failed selftest.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: schwett@differencengine.hip.berkeley.edu (Mark Schwettmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Performance of EtherLink III? Does it suck?
Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:57:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <367jku$it1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3654p0$ljk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3654p0$ljk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> mikef@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
(Mike Fleming) writes:
> Otherwise, there really is nothing you can do. I get FTP sends at up to
> 300k/sec and receives at up to 25k/sec. Err, umm...oh well....
>
Well..
I think there may be more to it than just the card + driver.
I've got a system with an EtherLink III, as does a RoomMate of mine, and
we get FTP transfers up to 500 k/sec BOTH directions (and this is from
Windows NT to NeXTStep, or vice versa)
It doesn't always go so high, but it almost always ranges from 300-500
k/sec for files of large enough size to be accurate.
Just my two cents.
Mark Schwettmann
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Buckaroo Bonzai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Formatting a new HD on black hardware???
Date: 27 Sep 1994 00:08:07 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <367np7$amj@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <34l32k$4ju@news.doit.wisc.edu> <35oj65$4a0g@argo.unm.edu>
My only question about your problem is this : Is your HD included
in the /etc/mtab file? (i.e., Is it mounted?). You can have it in
/etc/fstab, have it show up at boot and everything, but if you don't
have entries for *all* your hard drives such as the one below.
/dev/sd1a "HDisk1" 4.3rw, noquota, 1 2
Without an entry in /etc/mtab your disk will be unreachable...
Hope this helps...
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/ "String Theory is 21st century Physics that fell accidently into /
/ into the the 20th century" /
/ - Edward Witten /
/ I am ROOT, Hear Me RoaR!!!!! /
/ All flames to dev/null /
/ 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu /
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From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: portables and NS 3.3 (Vapor) ? (NeXT flames)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 27 Sep 1994 02:44:20 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3680u4$dsj@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <365g81$12n@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Actually, this thread may be better for comp.sys.next.advocacy.
As a user, I must say I wish there were more companies writing software
and drivers (not necessarily Talus). It is NeXT's job to get companies to
do this if NS is to be a viable platform. So far, their performance has
been less than stellar, reflecting badly on NS.
/ivo welch
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Specifications for Color 21" Megapixel display
Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:53:32 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <367jdc$evg@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: color, monitor
Does anyone have access to the specifications for the NeXT Color 21"
Megapixel display? Thanks in advance.
Christopher
penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu
From: hendryj@mcs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which P5-90 MB to get???
Date: 27 Sep 1994 04:13:10 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36864m$c1s@News1.mcs.com>
References: <3677m4$6jp@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
In article <3677m4$6jp@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes:
> In article <1994Sep23.142753.22880@il.us.swissbank.com> hendryj@mcs.com
> writes:
> >
> > Didn's someone from NeXT say they were adding SMP to NeXTSTEP? (At Expo,
> I
> > think)
>
> Didn't NeXT say since 1989 they were adding SMP to NeXTSTEP?
Well, there's saying, and then there's saying. Until now, they haven't
really had a good reason to add it. (Perhaps the mythical dual 88k/ppc
machine). With the sparc port coming, there's very good reason to add SMP.
NeXT would be absolutely insane to tell owners of 4 CPU Sparc 20's that
NeXTSTEP won't do SMP. Then again, the lack of a tri-fat 3.2/intel brings
up a few good questions...
--
Jonathan W. Hendry hendryj@mcs.com
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk (Charlesa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone have any experience with an object.station?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 09:11:06 GMT
Organization: EUnet GB
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <368nja$ogu@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Hi -
I'm wondering if anybody has any long-term (well, beyond 30mins!)
experience with Canon's object.station. What are your impressions?
Thx,
C.
--
*********************************************
Charles Ashley
Learned Information Ltd.
charlesa@learned.co.uk (NeXTMAIL okay...)
*********************************************
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Blues Explosion Man)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Comments/Experiences about MovieMachine/ScreenMachine needed.
Date: 26 Sep 1994 22:34:52 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3683ss$p73@cobber.cord.edu>
I am in need of a video capture device under NeXTstep by October 10 but I
don't want to jump into this investment without other people's input.
I'd like to know about your experiences with the MovieMachine Pro and/or
the ScreenMachine II capture boards. Which one would you recommend?
I need something that can playback well in at least 1024x768 resolutions in
16bit color with good fps. Frame editing and sequencing and sound support
is also desired (though sound isn't necessary).
--
Jonathan A. Doroin
doroin@cobber.cord.edu
doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Test Results for 50 mhz Accelerator Board (ascii)
Date: 27 Sep 1994 06:33:55 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <368ecj$34d@nntp.crl.com>
Dan Kehoe, former Consulting Editor for the late, lamented NeXT World Magazine, has
just completed a suite of test results for the Spherical 50 mhz accelerator board,
which we are calling the "Pyro."
All tests were performed on machines with 16 megs of RAM. Standard (25 mhz),
Turbo (33 mhz) and Pyro (50 mhz) tests were performed using mono cubes; the Nitro
test was performed on a color slab.
The results can be found on sonata.cc.purdue.edu in
/pub/next/submissions/Accel.Test.Results.ps (~25Kb) or:
<ftp://sonata.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submission/Accel.Test.Results.ps>
With some trepidation, these results are also posted here as rtf.
Further details, including pricing and availability, will be posted in the next
few days.
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 50 mhz Accelerator Test Results (RTF--28 Kb)
Date: 27 Sep 1994 06:35:55 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <368egb$37l@nntp.crl.com>
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
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From: nextug@ac.dal.ca (Christopher Majka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does Quix/Daydream still exist?
Message-ID: <1994Sep27.111336.27830@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 27 Sep 94 11:13:35 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Hi folks!
Anyone out there been in touch with Quix, the makers of
Daydream? I've been sending them Email for weeks with no
response. Have they gone belly up?
Any information appreciated.
Cheers!
Christopher Majka
nextug@ac.dal.ca
From: danno@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Obligatory "will it work" post for Gateway P5-90
Date: 27 Sep 1994 04:22:08 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan,ITD User Services
Message-ID: <3686lg$31i@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
as per subject, here's what i know of the config on this system.
I'm not a PC hardware weenie, so when I looked at this machine,
I didn't know exactly what to look for. Here's what I got:
no scsi, apparently (can i do a net-install from another CDROM drive,
or do i have to get a scsi card working on this piece of junk?)
ati mach64 graphics
3com etherlink III
western digital caviar "wdcAC2700H" disk, with a PCI IDE interface.
ms mouse (presumably this is fine, eh?)
If anyone can give me info on this, including a list of other things
I'll need to find out, that would be great. Personally I'm trying to
steer this person away from NeXT, but if it can be made to work without
real difficulty, I'd like to know.
thanks, danno
--
dan pritts ITD/LSA Partnership Unix Support dan.pritts@umich.edu
I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink a beer to celebrate
something important, like the fall of communism or the fact that our
refrigerator is still working.
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: longer printer cable for black next ?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 16:28:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <369h82$nl@news.service.uci.edu>
I am moving my Next printer farther from my black 040 slab, but the cable
is too short. Can the cable be extended, where can we get a longer one?
Thank you for any info.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-725-3105
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is my configuration NextStep happy?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 17:34:26 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <369l32$dbk@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <366u4m$4n6@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <366u4m$4n6@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay
Fuchs) writes:
> Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
> : In article <362arr$hi0@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay
Fuchs) writes:
> : If you can ever get answers from Talus. I wrote to them almost 4
> : weeks ago and got no answer. I wrote again and after a week got a
> : very short answer. I still had a few questions, so I wrote to them
> : again and received no answer. Sending my questions repeatedly to
> : various different people and addresses at Talus, have still yielded
> : absolutely nothing except an advertising mass mailing for their
> : notebook computers which I don't have the slightest interest in.
> : Finally I gave up and bought an Adaptec 2940 which works just fine
> : with the NeXT driver. However, I'll never again deal with Talus if I
> : can at all avoid it. Those people obviously have no interest in
> : selling their products.
>
> In my experience, you've got to call Talus (713-561-0700) to get
>answers.
Actually, the new numbers (as of July, but still rolling over the old
ones, I hope) are: vox - (713) 578-1434, and fax - (713) 578-1815.
Mr. Edman does have a legitimate problem (for which I apologize profusely)
- but I have some excuses :-). I received two e-mails from him while I
was in Chicago trying to sell some laptops, and was deluged by mail. We
simply don't have the manpower (as in two U.S. sales/tech people) to
handle sales and tech support to the retail market ourselves, and our
ex-US reseller (Alpine) hasn't been very... helpful. Our solution to this
is to announce our new U.S. reseller, whose staff may seem familiar to
those of you who have dealt with Alpine before, and who will be trained
and supported to sell NS machines (and, incidentally, our drivers). This
company is called 'Deanox Group, Inc.', and is located in Northern Utah
(funny...). Their phone is (801) 755-0727, and I believe their e-address
is deanox@cc.usu.edu. They plan to be able to market NS systems of
several flavors, as well as components and drivers. I'll be there most of
next week talking things over, but am really happy with the level of
enthusiasm and commitment they're exhibiting.
I hope this will fix a sales/support situation about which I am
not happy either. My sincere apologies to all those who feel ignored by
me or the company. I don't have control over everything :-), but this, I
can fix. I'll also be getting a SLIP connection at the apartment, so I
can answer e-mail at night, when taking breaks from playing XCOM.
Best to all,
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Talus Imaging and Communications Corp.
dan@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: horst@il.us.swissbank.com (Ted Horst)
Subject: IBM "Spitfire" as boot drive ?
Message-ID: <1994Sep27.211135.103@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: boot drive ibm spitfire
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 21:11:35 GMT
I am considering getting an IBM "Spitfire" 1 GB drive to replace the
original Seagate (which just died) in my ColorStation. Does anybody have
any experience with this ? I have heard that there are some ROM
dependencies, anybody know what to look out for ?
I have also thought about making this an external drive and leaving the
internal drive area empty. Does anyone know if this will work or if it is
a good idea ?
I am a hardware novice, so any and all advice is welcome and greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Ted Horst <horst@il.us.swissbank.com>
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is there a PCI-SCSI for NeXTSTEP-PC?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:02:54 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <36a4qe$asl@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi all,
Does anyone know of a PCI-SCSI card compatiable with NeXTSTEP?
Or I possibly get a driver at resonable cost?
How about PCI-video card??
Thanks for any information,
--
//|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
// || // @
//==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
// || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
From: jpwilkin@umich.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: got cube, got internal 3.5" drive; best config?
Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:07:16 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Message-ID: <36a52k$rp4@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Can someone give me some advice on how to best arrange things
with this configuration? I've got an ancient cube with the
upgrade to 040. I just picked up and installed an internal
Conner 3.5" 1060S drive. Installed? Well, I attached it in
a chain with the internal drive, set the jumpers, and am about
to format it. I'd like to make it the main disk eventually.
I've taken out the magneto optical to find space for the new
drive, and it's swimming around inside the enclosure at this point.
I can see that I could, for example, get some mounting screws
and attach the drive to one side of the enclosure -- that
would secure it pretty well -- but is there an elegant way?
Can people who have done this write to me about how they've done it?
Thanks!
jpwilkin@umich.edu
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 18:47:50 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Message-ID: <94270.18475034II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 030 Cube: Is this SIMM incompatable?
Ok -- I just bought some 30-pin, 100ns 1MB SIMMs for my 030 Cube. 7 of
the 8 seem to work fine in any mix/match. If I put the 8th one in there,
I get problems with it not enabling that bank and reporting "mixed mode"
SIMMs in the bank. They are NEC SIMMs. The ones that work are numbered:
"421000-10" and the one that doesn't is "421001-10". So, anyone know what
the "421001" model is? How is it different? All the SIMMs are 9-chip, so
they are parity SIMMs, but this doesn't matter, right? (I assume not since
I can put four of the good ones in and they work just fine.) In any case,
I'm assuming that this SIMM is somehow "odd" -- at least for a NeXT...
Any/all info appreciated. Thanks!
- John...
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT mouse
Date: 27 Sep 1994 17:46:07 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: global
Message-ID: <NIELSEN.94Sep27104607@bears.Stanford.EDU>
Hello all,
Well, folks, it appears my NeXT mouse (pre-adb) has given up the
ghost. It clicked once loudly, and now it clicketh no more. In light
of these events, I have several questions:
1. Does anyone have experience with such a click-switch failure? I
haven't opened up the mouse yet so I dunno how complicated the
situation might be.
2. Are there any deposits of used/new NeXT mice lying around
anywhere? For some reason, I seem to remember reading about mice
being bought at the auction...
3. Does anyone have a used mouse for sale? I'd rather not pay Bell
Atlantic prices.
4. Is there a quick dwrite to disable the right mouse button, so that
it acts like the left mouse button, thus making my NeXT useful for the
next week or so?
Thanks, everyone.
-jamey
*===============Stanford=student,=Cal=Fan.==Go=Bears.==================*
James Nielsen | Phone: (415) 725-1597
nielsen@leland.stanford.edu | PGP public key by finger
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~nielsen/ | NeXTmail welcome
--
*===============Stanford=student,=Cal=Fan.==Go=Bears.==================*
James Nielsen | Phone: (415) 725-1597
nielsen@leland.stanford.edu | PGP public key by finger
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~nielsen/ | NeXTmail welcome
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT mouse
Date: 28 Sep 1994 00:10:11 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36ac93$du3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <NIELSEN.94Sep27104607@bears.Stanford.EDU>
In article <NIELSEN.94Sep27104607@bears.Stanford.EDU>
nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) writes:
> Well, folks, it appears my NeXT mouse (pre-adb) has given up the
You can use a Logitech mouse. Here are excerpts from previous postings to
this newsgroup.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
**********************************************************************
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch).
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:10:39 GMT
Actually, you can use a Logitech BUS mouse off of a PC
directly... no point in ripping spare switches out. I have a
Logitech Bus Mouseman on my non-ADB black slab and it works
wonderfully, and feels much better than the NeXT mouse anyway.
You'll have to slice off the 9-pin mini-DIN plug that comes
with it and stick an 8-pin one on. I took an Apple
Imagewriter cable and cut it in half. The pinouts have been
posted
------------------------------------------------------------
From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse on Black hardware
Date: 30 Jun 1994 05:48:15 GMT
It's a Logitech MouseMan Bus mouse, which comes with a ISA
card for PC's.
The following are pin placements for the connectors, looking
at them from the solder pin view (the end your looking at when
soldering on the cable). The numbers correspond the the 10 pin
single row connector within the Logitech mouse.
NEXT
------------
6 1 3
10 9 7
8 4
LOGITECH
------------
2 3 6
7 9 10 1
4 8
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero)
Subject: line printer for source code printouts??
Message-ID: <1994Sep27.193853.9047@zion.com>
Sender: david@zion.com
Organization: Zion Software & Consulting
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 19:38:53 GMT
Has anyone connected a dot-matrix printer (serial or parallel) to a
NEXTSTEP machine (m68k or Intel) for use as a basic line printer? This
would make source code printouts easier to follow as I could print to
"computer paper", and follow the code over page breaks...
Any ideas?
Please reply via email, and I'll post if anyone is interested...
Thanks,
David.
david@zion.com
--
David Ferrero (203)659-4257 tel
Zion Software & Consulting (203)657-3542 fax
Modem, Terminal Emulation Software, NEXTSTEP Consulting
From: smg@orb.com (Sam_Goldberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 50 mhz Upgrade Board--Correction!
Date: 27 Sep 1994 22:41:44 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <36a738$2gm@nntp.crl.com>
I was so excited by the test results that I neglected to check the
calculation of the percentage increase in performance of the Pyro
relative to the 25 mhz, 33 mhz and 40 mhz boards. Luckily, the
ever-vigilant Volker Heminghaus-Shirai caught the errors, which made
the Pyro look slower than it really is, and alerted me to this
effect.
Moreover, it turns out that I inadvertently punished Mr. Kehoe by
referring to him in my previous post as "Dan." He is to be called
Daniel.
Here are the corrected figures. You'll note that the base results are
the same, but the percentages
have changed:
--
Samuel M. Goldberger
smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
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From: otto@rumba.ECE.ORST.EDU (Otto A. Gygax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro: stuck at a lower resolution
Date: 28 Sep 1994 04:11:47 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Message-ID: <36aqe3$qlp@engr.orst.edu>
Keywords: Graphics, Drivers
I'm resending this to the list. It's been the one answer with enough
detail to explain why this card doesn't really work.
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 18:38:53 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Organization: Central Michigan University
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro: stuck at lower resolution
The DRAm version of that ATI GUP is not fast enough to support the
higher resolutions under NS due to the overhead of the high-quality
NS graphics system (Display-Postscript). The DRAM versions of that
card are NOT DUAL-PORTED. The VRAM versions are. Dual-Ported means
that the cards can both read and write to memory on the card at the
same time -- hence a significant speed increase. The DRAM version
simply can't keep up -- you need the VRAM version.
Also, where'd you get the DRAM version? Normally, only Gateway 2000
has these things -- ATI makes them just for Gateway because they asked
for a cheaper version of the card. When Gateway swapped my VRAM card
with a DRAM card (when I sent my VRAM card in to be fixed), I was
angry. It took me two months to get them to finally get me a VRAM
card again -- and then NS worked fine again...
In any case, I posted this a while ago and requested that it be put in
the FAQ. If you want, feel free to repost my response -- maybe then it
can get into the FAQ.
Hope that helps!
- John...
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..and that was from John Goggan!
..preferably known as "goggan@cps201.cps.cmich.edu." <- NeXT-Mail fine
..and sometimes (for news posting) known as "John.Goggan@cmich.edu."
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Oregon State University
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is there a PCI-SCSI for NeXTSTEP-PC?
Date: 28 Sep 1994 04:34:21 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <36arod$4rl@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <36a4qe$asl@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Waihon A Kwong (wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: Hi all,
: Does anyone know of a PCI-SCSI card compatiable with NeXTSTEP?
: Or I possibly get a driver at resonable cost?
: How about PCI-video card??
Howdy.
You can get a current (Sept. 16, 1994) Hardware compatibility list
from ftp://ftp.next.com/...
Here's a summary of the information that is relevant to your
questions:
PCI graphics cards:
ATI 68800 AX: Planned Q4'94
S3928-based Miro Crystal 32S: miro928 driver, available from miro
Computer systems.
S3928-based card from HP Vectra XP-Series.
S3964-based Diamond Stealth 64
S3964-based Winner 2000PRO, driver named "ELSA_WINNER"
S3964-based GXE 64 Pro from Number Nine (will do 1600x1200x16bit).
Weitek Power 9000-based Diamond Viper PCI
Weitek Power9100-based Diamond Viper Pro
PCI SCSI Cards: (These are more sparse)
Adaptec 2940 -- planned Q4'94 for NextStep 3.3 only
DPT 3xxx -- also only for 3.3 Q4'94.
Looks like you'll have to wait a month or two for PCI SCSI, bummer.
--
jham@unlinfo.unl.edu
[microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the
resources it's consuming so easily. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: JCIS "Lion" 90 MHz Pentium machine
Message-ID: <1994Sep27.183750.18062@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: JCIS pentium
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 18:37:50 GMT
I just put together a JCIS "Lion" 90MHZ pentium machine for a couple of
professors at Princeton. The machines use the Intel "Plato" motherboard (which
I was running with the 1.00.10AX1 revision of the BIOS) and feature an NCR PCI
SCSI controller and a Weitek P9100 "Shark" video controller. I installed NS
3.2 on the machines, and they are working flawlessly. We experienced two
problems: 1) the Cogent EM960 PCI ethernet adaptor that came with the machine
would not work with the NCR PCI SCSI controller; this is apprently a
driver/NextStep problem, which "may" be fixed in 3.3; 2) we had to upgrade to
the latest BIOS to get the sound card (Adiotrix Pro) to work correctly. All in
all, I would recommend this machine --- it came with a 3 year parts/labor
guarantee (I have no connection to JCIS whatsoever).
Serge J. Goldstein
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dead Cube '040
Date: 28 Sep 1994 02:49:10 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Message-ID: <36alj6$5cl@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Last Friday one of out Black cubes died a sudden and tragic death. While
a user was typing away at the keyboard the system suddenly froze. Cmd-~
caused no response, and we were unable to power down without unplugging
the machine.
Once it was plugged back in, and the power key pressed, the monitor powers
up, the disks spin, but nothing else happens. No cube on the screen,
nuttin'. At this point, the system is unresponsive to any keypresses
(cmd-~, power, etc).
I have tried this with a different monitor, same thing. (Note that there
is no audible 'ping,' and no keyboard response, so I don't believe it's
the video circuitry. Besides, it doesn't work with the NeXTdimension board
in, either.)
I've swapped the BIOS EPROM with the chip from a slab, no difference.
I've swapped the batteries, same thing.
I've pulled all the memory and tried it in different combinations, no
improvement.
I've swapped boards with another machine. The new one works in the broken
box, but not the other way around.
I've cleaned the contacts, still nothing.
I don't want to risk damaging a CPU by swapping them, but if someone can
confirm that the 68040 is my problem I'll give it a shot.
What else should I try? Has anyone else had this problem?
Peter
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: I need help, and I'll pay $$$
Date: 28 Sep 1994 07:15:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
Message-ID: <36b55v$cmq@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I would love to have a wonderfully working comm port just like
black hardware does (ie: I have an intel system).
I tried MUX, but I was not able to get it working right, I screwed
up everything, my HD died, etc... besides, I like my MS serial mouse.
I need a solution. Will it be v3.3?
I want to be able to do anything on my system like a
multitasking system should, and not lose characters in a kermit d/l.
I don';t care how long a kermit d/l takes, getting a news feed, etc, as long
as I can do anything else and not have a problem......
I am willing to pay for the right solution, that works.
that is the onlything I need to iron out with my system and I'll
be happy.... I have access to a feed and everything, just I don't have
a good enough comm port driver.....
help?
Gary Lalim
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: ParallelPort Driver
Message-ID: <CwtsCE.L51@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 05:53:01 GMT
Well it looks like I have found a solution to my pp0 device problem.
Christian Starkjohann's Par driver did the trick. I had just
installed my Developer package; so I was able to compile his
source-only package. Of course I stumbled around a bit, learning that
I needed to compile the object as root, for example. <:-)
You can find his source at
ftp.uni-stuttgart.de:
/pub/systems/next/i486/Drivers/3.2/ParallelPortDriver1.0.tar.gz
My hat's off to you, Christian! Mail bounced at your address as well
as hannes; so I'll try again later.
Also, Mark Gregory Salyzyn gave me a great tip at how to reallocate a
this port as root:
/usr/etc/driverLoader d=ParallelPort
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>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
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From: honor@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Alex P. Honor)
Subject: 800x600 display on a notebook ??
Message-ID: <Cwu0M4.GvI@cnn.nas.nasa.gov>
Sender: news@cnn.nas.nasa.gov (News Administrator)
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 08:51:39 GMT
Hi All,
I read somewhere on a csn* group that there is a notebook computer
capable of displaying 800x600 and that Talus was working on a
driver for it. Does anyone have any information on this?
thanks for any info
/alex
_____________________________________________________________________
Alexander P. Honor honor@nas.nasa.gov
NAS User Services honor@windy.arc.nasa.gov (NeXTmail)
NASA Ames Research Center, Moffet Field, CA
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is there a PCI-SCSI for NeXTSTEP-PC?
Date: 28 Sep 94 10:42:53 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <next2.780748973@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <36a4qe$asl@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <36arod$4rl@crcnis1.unl.edu>
jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes:
>PCI graphics cards:
>...
Not to forget S3-964 based miro 20SV and 40SV as well as S3-864 based 20SD.
Driver available from miro.
>PCI SCSI Cards: (These are more sparse)
>Looks like you'll have to wait a month or two for PCI SCSI, bummer.
Or you take the NCR and buy the Talus driver. It has some limitations,
but it works quite stable.
Markus.
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// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: chris@quetzal.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Fax-Modem on HP 712
Date: 28 Sep 1994 07:54:23 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <36b7ff$e2j@taloa.unice.fr>
Keywords: Fax-Modem
Does anyone tell me what to do for this :
I've a HP Gecko with a Hayes compatible modem (it's a fax modem
and I've the programs to use it with Window). I know the Hayes commands to
send to the modem to fax. I've tried to configure with PrintManager my
"NeXT station" with the two known fax configurations : InterFax and HSD
Fax. But there is no result, no Fax is sended. Is there a configuration
file to modify or to add, or ??? ?
If you have suggestions, please send at this address, Thank.
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! TAGGIASCO Chritian !
! e-mail : chris@doublon.unice.fr !
! !
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! UMR 129 - C.N.R.S. Universite de Nice Sophia Antipolis !
! 1361 route des lucioles - Sophia Antipolis - !
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From: pburka@UPEI.CA (PETER WIEBE BURKA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Non-Scsi CDROM support?
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:28:58 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, CANADA
Message-ID: <pburka.85.780755338@UPEI.CA>
References: <jwshin.780613906@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU>
In article <jwshin.780613906@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> jwshin@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Jinwoo Shin) writes:
>Will NS FIP ever support installation from non-scsi cdrom?
>
I doubt it. Seeing as you can buy a single speed SCSI cd-rom for less than
$100 (don't ask me where, several places have advertised them) it seems a
fairly low cost addition to your system.
The work required to write drivers for all of the proprietary interfaces
would hardly be worth the cost.
Peter
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hårseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP: Kernel panic (cannot mount root)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 28 Sep 1994 14:13:17 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <36bq5d$3kn@baugi.ifi.uio.no>
HELP !
I have been using an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI-card for a while on my NS
3.2/FIP WS (with 486DX2 and Vesa local-bus). It doesn't run very well
with my ProAudioStudio16-soundcard, so to day I decided to change the
SCSI-card to a BusLogic445C-SCSI-card, and ad some more RAM. I have
installed the new BusLogic-driver from Next (but did not remove the
A1542-driver).
After installing the BT445C-card I got a Kernel panic (I didn't write
down the message, but it probably was "Kernal panic exception (6, 3,
v1)"), so I though the reason might be that I hadn't removed the
A1542-driver in the Config-app and the adress for the BT445C was wrong
in the Config-app (I had set it to 0x334, but the BT445C defaults to
0x330). So I reinstalled the A1542CF-card and booted with the
following result:
...
Loading binary for Adaptec 1542B
...
ISA-bus
DriverKit version 320
...
Registering: fs0
Registering: fd0
Registering: fd0a
BLCController not found at port 0x334
msg_send_from_kernel: bad message, -102
: msg_send_from_kernel() returned -102
Registering event0
Registering kmDevice0
rootdev 600, howto 0
panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
panic: NeXT Mach3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30
.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
Kernel panic exception (6, 3, 1)
Waiting for remote debugger connection
How do I get out of this mess, all I have done is to put in some more memory,
and taken the A1542CF-card out and in again ???
Arne
From: schmatz@mix.caed.iao.fhg.de (Peter Schmatz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Enhanced IDE 1GB ok for NS?
Date: 28 Sep 1994 15:10:36 GMT
Organization: FhG-IAO (Stuttgart-Germany)
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <36c11c$hl6@news.belwue.de>
Well the subject says it almost:
Is a Enhanced IDE Drive with 1 GB working with NS/Intel ?
BTW: The System is a DELL XPS P90 with
#9 GXE 64 Pro PCI 2MB V-RAM
1 GB Enhanced IDE
SCSI Adaptec 1542CF
NEC Triple Speed CD-ROM
3Com Etherlink III
16MB (will be upgraded)
which should be alright for NS !?
Thanks Peter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: benst@stuyts.nl (Ben Stuyts)
Subject: Re: NeXT mouse
Message-ID: <Cwt6xv.37K@stuyts.nl>
Organization: Stuyts Engineering Haarlem BV
References: <NIELSEN.94Sep27104607@bears.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: global
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 22:10:42 GMT
In article <NIELSEN.94Sep27104607@bears.Stanford.EDU>,
James Nielsen <nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
> 1. Does anyone have experience with such a click-switch failure? I
> haven't opened up the mouse yet so I dunno how complicated the
> situation might be.
Happened to me a few weeks ago. The left switch failed. I opened the first
other mouse in sight, a Logitech serial mouse for a pc, and it had exaxtly
the same switch inside! (Some Omron type.) I replaced the switch in the NeXT
mouse and have been clicking happily ever after.
And who cares about a pc mouse anyway. It's been promoted to official spare
part for my NeXT.
Best regards,
Ben
From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: Kernel panic (cannot mount root)
Date: 28 Sep 1994 15:41:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <36c2qs$h3o@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <36bq5d$3kn@baugi.ifi.uio.no>
Arne Christian H rseth writes
<
<HELP !
<
<I have been using an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI-card for a while on my NS
<3.2/FIP WS (with 486DX2 and Vesa local-bus). It doesn't run very well
<with my ProAudioStudio16-soundcard, so to day I decided to change the
<SCSI-card to a BusLogic445C-SCSI-card, and ad some more RAM. I have
<installed the new BusLogic-driver from Next (but did not remove the
<A1542-driver).
<
<After installing the BT445C-card I got a Kernel panic (I didn't write
<down the message, but it probably was "Kernal panic exception (6, 3,
<v1)"), so I though the reason might be that I hadn't removed the
<A1542-driver in the Config-app and the adress for the BT445C was wrong
<in the Config-app (I had set it to 0x334, but the BT445C defaults to
<0x330). So I reinstalled the A1542CF-card and booted with the
<following result:
<
<...
<Loading binary for Adaptec 1542B
<...
<ISA-bus
<DriverKit version 320
<...
< ... crash
<Arne
Did you try using:
config=Default
at the boot: prompt? Then going in and fixing up your configuration?
--
Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team
Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome)
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and
in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: map+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mark Puskar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DEC RZ55 disk on next cube
Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:50:54 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36c6te$mru@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu>
Has anyone been able to get a DEC RZ55 disk to work
on a next cube? /etc/disk will format the disk but
the init command fails with "incomplete data transfer"
messages.
The RZ55 block size is set to 512. I've made an
entry in /etc/disktab with sector size of 512 and
tried to label and init the disk without success.
I've tried both 2.0 and 2.1 versions of the operating system.
Any ideas?
Mark Puskar
From: dan@talus.com (Dan Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE 1GB ok for NS?
Date: 28 Sep 1994 18:04:45 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <36cb7t$muk@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <36c11c$hl6@news.belwue.de>
In article <36c11c$hl6@news.belwue.de> schmatz@mix.caed.iao.fhg.de (Peter
Schmatz) writes:
> Well the subject says it almost:
> Is a Enhanced IDE Drive with 1 GB working with NS/Intel ?
Unfortunately, no. Even the new 1GB drives which are supposed to emulate
being both master and slave are non-functional. I tried to get a couple
working for some folks in California, with no joy. I don't believe this
will be fixed under 3.3, but I hope I'm wrong :=).
Dan
>
> BTW: The System is a DELL XPS P90 with
> #9 GXE 64 Pro PCI 2MB V-RAM
> 1 GB Enhanced IDE
> SCSI Adaptec 1542CF
> NEC Triple Speed CD-ROM
> 3Com Etherlink III
> 16MB (will be upgraded)
> which should be alright for NS !?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff Martin)
Subject: Microsoft Mouse 2.0A problems
Message-ID: <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com>
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 14:56:17 GMT
We just bought 4 pentium machines that came with Microsoft's new ergonomic
mouse (Microsoft Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.0A). They exhibit the same
behavior on several different brands of PC - they jump around alot,
usually when you aren't even using the mouse. We have temporarily swapped
them out with another brand, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen
this problem.
... jeff
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE 1GB ok for NS?
Date: 28 Sep 1994 13:44:55 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <36ca2n$3b5@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <36c11c$hl6@news.belwue.de>
Peter Schmatz (schmatz@mix.caed.iao.fhg.de) wrote:
: Well the subject says it almost:
: Is a Enhanced IDE Drive with 1 GB working with NS/Intel ?
: BTW: The System is a DELL XPS P90 with
: #9 GXE 64 Pro PCI 2MB V-RAM
: 1 GB Enhanced IDE
: SCSI Adaptec 1542CF
: NEC Triple Speed CD-ROM
: 3Com Etherlink III
: 16MB (will be upgraded)
: which should be alright for NS !?
Avoid Enhanced IDE like the plague!!! NS does not support the Enhanced
IDE spec, and in order to get such a drive to work, you'll have to format
it down to <528MB. In the process, your 1000MB hard drive will suddenly
become a 500MB drive!! Ontop of that, NeXTSTEP would not properly install
on my particular 540MB Enhanced IDE drive. Use SCSI. Fast SCSI-2 drives
like the Micropolis 4110 ($640) are now in the same price range as IDE
drives. In addition, SCSI drives have a higher sustained transfer than
IDE drives (despite IDE's claims of SCSI-like performance)
- Jay
From: shunter@cais2.cais.com (Steve K Hunter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Zeos Pentium
Date: 28 Sep 1994 20:15:10 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <36cise$igd@news.cais.com>
Does N.S 3.1/3.2 run on:
Zeos Pantera Pentium 90
PCI bus
Matrox MGA 2+ PCI Video Card
ProAudio Spectrum 16 Sound/CD card
Hayes Optima 288B v.fc fax/modem
please e-mail to
shunter@cais.com
thanks
STeve Hunter
From: shunter@cais2.cais.com (Steve K Hunter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Drivers for Matrox MGA card
Date: 28 Sep 1994 20:20:05 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <36cj5l$igd@news.cais.com>
References: <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> <CEDMAN.94Sep25130843@capitalist.princeton.edu> <366ubo$4ol@anshar.shadow.net>
I hope this is not true!!!! I got an MGA 2+ card becuase it seemed
to work well with Linux. What is the difference between Linux and
NextStep that causes this problem ?
Please e-mail me becuase I am just about ready to buy N.S 3.1
and expect to upgrate to 3.2 but this will put a stopper on things!
email = shunter@cais.com
thanks
Steve Hunter
Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
: Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote:
: : In article <361lq8$or3@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> gel@cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) writes:
: : I'm getting myself a Pentium-60 with a Matrox Ultima video card. I called
: : NeXT and they don't have any support for that card. Does anyone know if there
: : are any drivers available for NeXTStep 3.2 and the Matrox MGA cards...
: : No, nor will there be any. The Matrox MGA can not directly map its
: : entire memory and all NS drivers depend on that.
: Several months back, I called Matrox to ask them if they knew of any
: drivers. I got this response: "we are not interested in Unix" and they
: promptly hung up.
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: long printer cord???
Date: 28 Sep 1994 21:15:17 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36cmd5$odd@news.tamu.edu>
References: <1994Sep20.184419.20895@ictv.com>
Keywords: NeXT laser printer cable
In article <1994Sep20.184419.20895@ictv.com> robert@ictv.com (Robert Thille)
writes:
|
| This is not entirely correct. If you extend the cable such that the signal
| skew is one full cycle, the printer will work.
From back postings:
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
To: tgr@trans.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: longer printer cable
Cc: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
In comp.sys.next.hardware article
<1992Sep16.215632.26112@news.csuohio.edu> you wrote:
>We have 2 NeXTs here and one has a NeXT laser printer attached. We have
>them configured so both computers can share the printer. Here is the
>problem:
>
>The printer is in the directors office and we would like it outside of
his
>office to eliminate any disturbances. So I call NeXT support to get the
>specs on the cable so I can have a custom cable made. They tell me it
>will not work and can not be longer than the supplied cable.
>
>So if anyone out there is using a longer cable on their NeXT printer,
>please drop a not to me to verify that it does work.
>
>Thanks,
> Wayne
>
Yes, I heard that you can use a longer cable but it has to be
really long like 80feet.
Officially, NeXT says you can't, but apparently it is possible.
You have to make your own cable. Read on.
---
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
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=============== Here's an old posting about this ===============
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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Subject: Re: Printer cable length....
Message-ID: <1992May15.150332.4258@bmw.mayo.edu>
Sender: newsman@bmw.mayo.edu (/home/bmw/usenet)
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
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Date: Fri, 15 May 92 15:03:32 GMT
Lines: 76
In article <78062@netnews.upenn.edu> anstine@rm105serve.sas.upenn.edu
(David
Anstine) writes:
> How long can the cable be? Can I use an amplifier to make it longer?
>
> -dave
It can be multiples of 80, plus 15 feet, if you use coax (see below)
this was a suggestion that is NOT SUPPORTED IN ANY WAY BY NEXT!!!
I received this from a NeXT SE, and am forwarding it to the net without
permission. Sounded good. If the original author sees this, he can
respond if he wants...
- Geoff
------------------------------------------------------------
You know how the official party line is that you can't make a longer NeXT
printer cable?
An engineer I knew at <name deleted> University didn't buy this story and
has
successfully made an 80-foot long printer cable.
Here's some email he sent me about what was involved.
From: <name deleted>
To: name_deleted@NeXT.COM
Subject: Re: lengthening a NeXT printer cable
I made a cable using seperate coaxs for each signal. It
works fine, except that when the printer runs out of paper, putting in
more paper does not get the printer printing again. <name deleted> found
that
he had to turn the printer off using the soft window, and then it
starting printing again.
As far as signal skew goes, there should be no problem with data going
to the printer, since the CPU provides data and data clock. However, the
return data may be suffering skew problems. One solution, is to
adjust the length of the cable so the return data is skewed by exact
one clock cycle. I will try this sometime and let you know how it
works.
<name deleted>
From: <name deleted>
To: <name deleted>@NeXT.COM
Subject: Re: lengthening a NeXT printer cable
Hi again, Steve:
I measured the delay with the oscilloscope and found that that I made
the cable a poor length for skew. I added enough cable to the return
data line so that the cable is now equal to 80 feet in length. This
adjusted the skew for the return data one full clock cycle. <name
deleted> and
I tested to see if the running the printer out of paper still caused a
problem. We found that the problem is fixed.
So, the moral to this story is to make long cables multiples of 80
feet (for 81% c coax). The cable can be slightly longer that 80 feet but
not by more than 15 feet. The cable can not be shorter that 80 feet.
These cable length should work:
0 to 15 feet
80 to 95
160 to 175
240 to 255
Of course the lengths will have to be adjusted for the velocity factor
if it is different than 81 percent. Mabey, Next can make a special cable
and sell it!
<name deleted>
---------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst, RCF brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905 USA fax (507) 284-5231
[izumi@pinoko:+/NeXT-announce.nfold] %
================== end quote =====================
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dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)--
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Internet,NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University
uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station,TX 77843-3112
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can the OD in cube be used by PC or ...
Date: 28 Sep 1994 21:31:33 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36cnbl$p0v@news.tamu.edu>
References: <3656vk$icv@saba.rutgers.edu>
Keywords: No
In article <3656vk$icv@saba.rutgers.edu> werche@saba.rutgers.edu (ChiWei Che)
writes:
| Hi:
| A question to all next experts:
| We have a next cube in our lab which is no more used, and we try to
| pull out the hardware so as to maxmize the usage. I found the Optical
| Drive (256 Meg capacity), and the manual claimed to be SCSI one. I wonder
| any one out there trying to use the OD in a PC or workstation ? Any
| manufactory made the SCSI card that plug into the ISA or VLB board that
| could connect to the OD ? The reason for me to point out is the back pins
| of OD is 20 pins connection instead of 25 or 50 commonly used in nowadays
| SCSI adaptors. Any information or poit to the right place are appreciated.
|
|
| Che
No, the NeXT OD is not SCSI. It can only be connected to (some) NeXT
motherboards. If it's working you might try selling it on
comp.sys.next.marketplace. Sorry.
--
Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science
Internet,NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University
uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station,TX 77843-3112
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: DEC RZ55 disk on next cube
Message-ID: <Cwv3pL.AGy@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <36c6te$mru@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 22:56:08 GMT
In article <36c6te$mru@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu>,
Mark Puskar <map+@CS.CMU.EDU> wrote:
>Has anyone been able to get a DEC RZ55 disk to work
>on a next cube? /etc/disk will format the disk but
>the init command fails with "incomplete data transfer"
>messages.
I tried for a long time to get this to work--no success. I gather that Micropolis is the actual manufacturer of the RZ55 and that they have a ROM
upgrade to make it work, but I never investigated.
Another solution I was pointed to was a hardware hack to deal with the
deselect logic. Again, since I found another disk to use on my cube, I didn't
follow up on this.
Why am I posting this here? Well, if someone could give a *clear* explination
of what's going wrong here, I'd like to hear it.
--
=============================================================================
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie
From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: YAAC (Yet Another -arch Comparison)
Date: 29 Sep 1994 06:01:16 GMT
Message-ID: <36dl7c$eij@pubxfer2.news.psi.net>
Summary: If you're a developer, don't bother switching from your
486DX/2-66 machine to an HP 712/60.
Unscientific measurements, compiling my favorite project on an
otherwise-idle machine, same 32Mb RAM, with approximately the same
disk items cached (clean boot), similar drive seek/IO (HP: Seagate 1Gb
Hawk, PC: Microp. 1Gb 2112A IDE):
HP 712/60
all 3 archs: 326.1u 42.6s 7:18 84%
2 archs, i386/m68k: 168.7u 29.9s 4:15 77%
hppa-only: 159.7u 13.7s 3:13 89%
i386-only: 80.2u 13.7s 2:05 75%
INTEL 486 DX/2-66
2 archs, i386/m68k: 230.1u 45.5s 5:56 77%
i386-only: 105.1u 18.8s 2:38 78%
As a developer, only the HP/hppa-only and INTEL/i386-only numbers are
interesting on a repeated, daily basis. Given these, I'd rather be
doing the compile/test cycle at my Gateway than my Gecko.
(N.B. The 712/80 is said to benchmark about 50% faster than the
712/60. A P-90 is approximated at 100% faster than a 486DX/2-66.
Yes, I know, this comparison ignores entirely such considerations as
video speed, floating-point, cost to maintain, and the fact that you
developers might *have* to buy a 712 for compatability compiling &
testing anyway. YMMV.)
Cheers,
Brian Hess
Active Ingredients, Inc.
bnh@active.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Mouse 2.0A problems
Message-ID: <CwvJCE.899@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
References: <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 04:33:50 GMT
In article <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com> jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff
Martin) writes:
>
> We just bought 4 pentium machines that came with Microsoft's new ergonomic
> mouse (Microsoft Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.0A). They exhibit the same
> behavior on several different brands of PC - they jump around alot,
> usually when you aren't even using the mouse. We have temporarily swapped
> them out with another brand, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen
> this problem.
>
> ... jeff
Yeah, we saw this problem a long time back with other brands of mice too - we
solved it the same way, by changing mouse brands. It isn't limited to Microsoft
mice, the latest ones do just work on same brands of machine.
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Soundcards for the future
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 04:34:25 -0400
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <AiWbkFS00iV_I0kVEK@andrew.cmu.edu>
I was wondering whether NSFIP would be supporting the Gravis Ultrasound
in the near or distant future. Does anyone have anything about this? In
the meantime, is the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 _Basic_ supported? It's the
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 without the SCSI port. I assume it's the same card
except for the SCSI so it should work, but then again, this is NSFIP.
-Leo
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| Leo Turetsky | Carnegie-Mellon University |
| professor@cmu.edu | Sophomore, ECE\CS Double Major |
+----------------------esp---------------------------------+
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| I just look at them there are more than there should be. |
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Plextor 5028 boots NS/HP
Message-ID: <bchin.780831445@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 09:37:25 GMT
I've successfully booted NS/HP from a Plextor 5028 CD-ROM drive
on a HP 712/80i. I did not actually do the installation since I
didn't want to wipe out the hard drive. If someone out there has
a Plextor handy and is doing NS/HP installation, they may want
to try this before buying/borrowing a Toshiba 3301/3401 or the
HP labeled versions. If it works, please post!
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Segate Barracuda problems
Message-ID: <1994Sep29.094217.35009@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Date: 29 Sep 94 09:42:16 EDT
Keywords: ST12550N, stupid user
Like an idiot, I tried to change the name of my external Barracuda
ST12550N using builddisk. It came back with an error that it could
not format the drive, and now when I fsck it, I get this:
** /dev/sd1a
BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE
SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8).
I tried -b16 (suggested in FSCK), but that didn't work either.
I have two other machines with Barracuda's on them that are working.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Sean
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From: sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diamond Corp.
Date: 29 Sep 1994 13:33:52 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36efo0$2b4@slowhand.nmb.com>
A few days ago, some nice soul posted the details on the Diamond
Vision Upgrade program..Alas, it seems my XRN saved that article
into /dev/null and not my NeXT folder! Can someone please
e-mail the posting so I can order the card!!! Thanks..
--
Steven J. McDowall ATT: 515 221-4286
sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: freeband@netcom.com (Nick Porcaro)
Subject: WANTED: NeXTStation 040
Message-ID: <freebandCwvLvF.M66@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 05:28:27 GMT
Hi,
I need to buy an 040 NeXTStation, any configuration, but preferably
a turbo. I don't need any disk or software, but the "right disk"
would be nice.
Please e-mail nick@ccrma.stanford.edu, or call Nick at 415-553-8769
From: charles400@aol.com (Charles400)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Zeos Pentium
Date: 29 Sep 1994 12:57:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <36erkt$aol@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
References: <36cise$igd@news.cais.com>
In article <36cise$igd@news.cais.com>, shunter@cais2.cais.com (Steve K
Hunter) writes:
Zeos claims it does, however the CD-Rom MUST be scsi. It adds 300 bucks to
the price since the only scsi drives they use are NEC 3X. be prepared to
drop another 259$ on a scsi adaptor that the salesman says you need!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tdave@raivac.com
Subject: SoundBlaster beta driver
Message-ID: <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com>
Keywords: soundblaster
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:06:06 GMT
I have just tried the new SoundBlaster beta driver from NeXT (available
from ftp.next.com) and am still confused. The documentation is ambiguous
as to whether the driver will work with an ISA card. When installed the
driver I did get some sound but it was more like a dying tasmanian devil
than what I had selected. Anybody else with similar experiences?
Regards,
Dave Thompson
From: park@isl.Stanford.EDU (Sang Ju Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PLI Floppy for PC ?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 17:30:06 GMT
Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <94Sep29.102735@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Hello.
Does anybody know if I can use PLI 2.88MB external floppy for Cube
on PC running DOS/Windows (on Adaptec 2940 SCSI card, if that matters) ?
Any drivers or such needed ?
Any info would be appreciated.
--- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
From: akira@salyko.cube.net (Robert Yazar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 15:15:25 GMT
Organization: CUBENet Multiline BBS
Message-ID: <36elmd$nur@salyko.cube.net>
References: <35t5b0$p9c@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <1994Sep23.150809.23273@il.us.swissbank.com>
> Somebody writes (I lost track who):
>
> >Since 24-bit mode in NEXTSTEP is 32-bit mode, that would
> >require more than 5 MB of VRAM. I'm not aware of any
> >standard video cards that can accept more than 4 MB
> >VRAM...?
here in Germany ELSA will release a new Graphic Board called Winner PRO 2000/8.
This Card will have 8MB RAM (as i know VRAM) and displays True Colour
with a Resolution of 1600x1280. ELSA is also a Company who supports
Driver for NS.
Robert
akira@cube.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk (Phil Robinson)
Subject: Sound Card advice for Intel h/w please?
Organization: Myorganisation
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 13:53:32 +0000
Message-ID: <780846812snz@unitec.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
After reading this group for a while, I do't find any really
definitive info. on a reliable soundcard for an intel box:
Briefly: I've tried the PAS 16 and it doesn't work in a variety
of catastrophic ways from sounds played incorrectly, pauses, stereo
all wrong, to complete and instant death the instant you try to a
SND.
I had the Adaptec1542x but after reading the NeXT answers on the
topic, installed the later driver and got a BusLogic 445S. Same results.
Now I just want a card that works, and If anyone wants to buy a
PAS16, let me know!
Please reply if you know any answers - I don't trust the NeXT h/w
FAQ AT ALL!
Thanks...
Phil
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_________________________________________________________
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Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk
voice: 061 236 8406 modem: 061 237 5324 fax: 061 236 7041
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From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple External CD-Rom and NeXT Cube ?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 15:10:48 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <36eldo$lt5@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Apologies if this is in the FAQ, but here goes anyway !
Can I connect an old-ish Apple External CD-Rom drive to the SCSI port
on the back on a 68030 NeXT Cube running NeXT 2.X ? If so do I just
plug it in and let it go ?
Also how do I go about upgrading to NeXT 3.x, the cube has an internal
optical disc so if anyone has got 3.x that they are chucking out (I
live in hope !) let me know - especially if you live in the UK.
And finally...
Where can I get some new optical discs/cartidges for the optical drive
from ? Are they the same as for a Syquest drive ?
Thanks for any help/advice
Rupert Hollom
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
URL : http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/welcome.html
From: dclhomm@unity.ncsu.edu (Daniel Cha L'hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple External CD-Rom and NeXT Cube ?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 15:47:40 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <36enis$b5c@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
References: <36eldo$lt5@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom) writes:
>Can I connect an old-ish Apple External CD-Rom drive to the SCSI port
>on the back on a 68030 NeXT Cube running NeXT 2.X ? If so do I just
>plug it in and let it go ?
I've been trying to hook an Apple CD-ROM (it's just a SCSI Sony drive,
anyway!) to my 030 Cube, never with any success. I thought that first it
was the operating system (NS 2.1) but I've since upgraded to 3.0 and it
still doesn't work. I get all sorts of SCSI bus errors.
I would appreciate any pointers on getting this thing to work...
>Also how do I go about upgrading to NeXT 3.x, the cube has an internal
>optical disc so if anyone has got 3.x that they are chucking out (I
>live in hope !) let me know - especially if you live in the UK.
I had someone make an optical of NS 3.0 for me...
Good luck! Please let me know if you get the CD-ROM working--I really want
to get mine to work.
Daniel
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From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Soundcards for the future
Date: 29 Sep 1994 09:28:37 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <36emf5$7el@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <AiWbkFS00iV_I0kVEK@andrew.cmu.edu>
Leo L Turetsky (professor+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: I was wondering whether NSFIP would be supporting the Gravis Ultrasound
: in the near or distant future. Does anyone have anything about this? In
: the meantime, is the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 _Basic_ supported? It's the
: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 without the SCSI port. I assume it's the same card
: except for the SCSI so it should work, but then again, this is NSFIP.
Pro Audio Basic 16 works fine.
...................kris
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From: yut@blue.ecn.purdue.edu (Greg Yut)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3D Graphics under NS/HP
Date: 29 Sep 1994 19:05:55 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Message-ID: <36f36j$t4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I had the opportunity to look at some HP workstations today,
but none were running NS. An attractive configuration might be
the 715/80 with the HCRX-24Z graphics subsystem. The subsystem
has 12/12 bit double buffering and a 24-bit Z buffer.
Would NS/HP take full advantage of the double buffering and Z-buffer?
(I wouldn't want to pay thousands of dollars for the graphics
hardware if it wasn't used under NS.)
Thanks for any feedback.
Greg
From: gkj@ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hedging Bets on a Printer
Date: 29 Sep 1994 19:23:42 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Message-ID: <36f47u$79c@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>
I am nursing my trusty NeXT printer along (the mechanisms are simply wearing out), but it is
clearly going to fail permanently in the next couple of months. At the same time, I am in the midst
of deciding whether to leap onto an HP or Intel platform in continuing to use NextStep (currently
using 3.2 on black). I will definitely abandon, or at least supplement, my black hardware with a
newer platform sometime during the next six months. :(
My question is whether there is an excellent printer I can purchase now that will run with my black
hardware and also be accomodated on either HP or Intel platforms depending on which way I jump.
I only need a B&W laser printer, since I have access to color printers on our network for my
fancier final products.
Thanks in advance for your good advice.
Gary Jacobs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles.herrick@amd.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Mouse 2.0A problems
Message-ID: <CwwqEo.HC@txnews.amd.com>
Sender: news@txnews.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin, TX, USA
References: <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 20:03:58 GMT
In article <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com> jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff
Martin) writes:
>
> We just bought 4 pentium machines that came with Microsoft's new ergonomic
> mouse (Microsoft Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.0A). They exhibit the same
> behavior on several different brands of PC - they jump around alot,
Don't light those matches stuck in between their little toes?
--
personal opinions
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does Intel 14.4/14.4 fax modem work with NeXTstep?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 16:08:42 -0400
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <36f6sa$8se@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
I check the Feb 1994 FAQ to see if the Intel 14.4/14.4 fax modem
would work with NeXTstep 3.2, but the answer there seems to be
outdated. It says that NeXTstep 2.1 complied with Class 2 as it
was written at the time. How about now? Is the Intel 14.4/14.4
Class 2?
Any information or experience would be appreciated.
Chris
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Number Nine GXEL16 BETA Driver Broken?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:23:07 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <36fb7r$2f3@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <36elmd$nur@salyko.cube.net>
Is there any information
[1] about pricing
[2] about refresh rates at 1600*1200 ? 1280*1024?
(i.e. RAMDAC)
[3] about color palette
[4] availability dates
for either card?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple External CD-Rom and NeXT Cube ?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:16:59 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36fasb$a4c@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <36eldo$lt5@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
In article <36eldo$lt5@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert
Hollom) writes:
> Can I connect an old-ish Apple External CD-Rom drive to the SCSI port
> on the back on a 68030 NeXT Cube running NeXT 2.X ? If so do I just
> plug it in and let it go ?
I have used an Apple CD SC and an Apple CD 150 with my 68040 NeXT slab.
CDPlayer.app wouldn't work with either drive, but data transfer worked
just fine. All I did in either case was plug the drive in and reboot.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: joris@econ.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: update approved hardware list
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 14:41:25
Organization: UBC-econ
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <joris.2.000EB128@econ.ubc.ca>
Keywords: approved list
Hi folks,
the next answer list of approved systems is fairly old (May 12) and does not
contain info on any of the new 90 Mhz systems. when can we expect the next
update and which machines are likely to be on it?
Thanks,
Joris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: to mount or not to mount (also how to mount) that is the q.
Message-ID: <36fg37$t38@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu>
From: kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu (-staff music)
Date: 29 Sep 1994 18:45:59 -0400
Organization: Brooklyn College
Greetings.
I have a question that i was hoping that i could get answered.
Where i do my work we have a small network of NeXTStations and cubes.
I have my own external hard disk that i bring back and forth from my NeXT
at home to the network. When i want to bring my disk in i just unhook it from
my home NeXT and put it into one of the cubes on the network and reboot.
No problem. The disk appears on my shelf in the File Viewer just like
when you stick in a floppy or an optical. I am able to read and write to/from the disk.
Easy as can be.
my question is this:
(1) - why can't i access this disk from the other machines on the network.
I can only use the disk on the computer that it is physically on.
(2) - why is it that no matter what i set the permissions to, all the files on the
disk are readable by everyone. I can chmod all i want, but everyone who logs on
to that computer has access to my files. Not cool.
Should i mount the disc? (and if so how) or is that a bad idea if
i am going to be taking the disk back and forth a lot? Because then i would be mounting
and unmounting, over and over.
On my home computer i do it the same way. I just plug the drive in.
and boot up. Should i mount the drive at home too?
any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any advice
Everything Everbest,
kevin parks
the center for computer music
conservatory of music
brooklyn college of the city university of new york
2900 bedford ave.
brooklyn, ny 11210-2889
E-mail:
kparks@its.brooklyn.cuny.edu
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Return-Path: <agm@doc.ic.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <m0qpIaS-000EISC@dolphin.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 17:07 BST
From: Axel G Merk <agm@doc.ic.ac.uk>
Subject: dual processor motherboard
Cc: agm@doc.ic.ac.uk
Does anyone have experience with dual processor motherboards? If Nextstep
compatible, I intend to buy a motherboard that is capable of carrying 2
Pentium processors: I would only install 1 processor until Nextstep supports
multi-processor Intel machines, but would have a low-cost upgrade then.
In particular, I'm considering the AIR 54CDP (motherboard with dual CPU 90/100
MHz Pentium, EISA/PCI, fast/wide SCSI).
I would highly appreciate if someone shared their experience in installing
NeXTstep on this or similar boards.
Thank you very much,
axel
p.s.: it is very difficult for me to access USENET, and would appreciate
personal e-mail; I'll summarize significant findings if there is interest.
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP Success! Thanks to Talus
Date: 30 Sep 1994 01:25:59 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <36g7h7$h5k@anshar.shadow.net>
After months of tinkering, I finally have a working NSFIP system!!!!
I owe a great deal of thanks to everyone at Talus Imaging for their help
(especially Dan). Ah, to see Workspace again after all this time using
Windows. Subjectively, the Gateway P5-90 feels 10x faster than my old
NeXTstation Color. The Talus drivers worked flawlessly, and installation
went smoothly (well, almost).
Here's the setup:
Gateway P5-90 (Intel Premiere II/PCI MB)
32MB RAM
ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 4MB (Talus driver)
NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI (Talus driver)
Micropolis 4110 1gb Fast SCSI-2 HD
NEC CDR-510 3x CD-ROM
Creative Labs SB16
A few issues left to be resolved:
1. The Microsoft Mouse 2.0a (PS/2) is jumping all over the place.
2. Getting my HP C1716T 1.3gb optical drive working under NS. All my data
is backed up on ODs, and I need to get it working.
3. SupraFaxModem 288i. NeXT tech support told me internal modems won't
work - I'd hate to relegate this one to the junk drawer.
4. SB16 driver - I haven't tried the NeXT beta driver, but the PD driver
did not work.
5. I desperately need an inexpensive comm app capable of VT100 and
zmodem. In the meantime, I'm forced to boot DOS from a floppy and run a
DOS comm program. In the long run, I'll need solid PPP software.
- Jay
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: to mount or not to mount (also how to mount) that is the q.
Date: 30 Sep 1994 03:52:56 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36g22o$g59@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <36fg37$t38@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu>
In article <36fg37$t38@itsop1.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu> writes:
> (1) - why can't i access this disk from the other machines on the
> network. I can only use the disk on the computer that it is physically
> on.
You have to export it for other machines to see it. Use
NextAdmin/NFSManager.app.
> (2) - why is it that no matter what i set the permissions to, all the
> files on the disk are readable by everyone.
You need to add an entry for the disk in /etc/fstab.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft Mouse 2.0A problems
Date: 30 Sep 1994 05:04:26 GMT
Organization: Internetworks, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36g68q$e9e@pdx1.i.net>
References: <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com>
In article <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com> jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com
(Jeff Martin) writes:
>
> We just bought 4 pentium machines that came with Microsoft's new
ergonomic
> mouse (Microsoft Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.0A). They exhibit the
same
> behavior on several different brands of PC - they jump around alot,
> usually when you aren't even using the mouse. We have temporarily
swapped
> them out with another brand, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen
> this problem.
>
> ... jeff
I reported this problem 3 or 4 months ago to NeXT.. When I received my
GW-2000 P5-90 it came with the MS mouse 2.0a also. I had the exeact same
problem, I called GW, thinking it was a bad mouse, so They sent me another
one, same problem, So I went out a purchased a Logitech PS2 mouse.
Evertything works great now..
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
steve@eps.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Do you have a HP 712/60?
Message-ID: <1994Sep30.084821.21109@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:48:21 GMT
Hi folks. Does anyone have an HP 712/60 running NS, and if so,
would you be willing to take about 30 minutes or so and run
some code I can NeXTMail you? To be fair, a few files will
need to be stored in /LocalLibrary/Textures and /LocalLibrary/Shaders,
which should be a local partition. Also, the machine should probably
have at least 32MB.
I just ran some tests on my 735/99 (with 112MB) and 712/80 (with 32MB),
and I'd like to see the effect the smaller cache (and lower clock speed)
of the 712/60 on the tests.
Basically, I'm testing my WW3DTester.app and prman speed, where the
test is pretty stressful (lots of NURBS, three texture maps, one
being accessed as an environment map, etc.). This is interesting
because it's a nice mix of in core rendering and file accessing stuff
(hence the requirement of a local /LocalLibrary/Textures partition).
Interestingly, the 712/80 averages 78% of the performance of the
735/99, almost exactly what you might hope. Note these are tests
that run for several minutes (59 to 344 seconds on the 735 and
75 to 410 seconds on the 712) so for my purposes these are real
measures of performance, where each image was rendered 3 times
in a row (with a marked performance increase after the first image,
a speed up I don't completely understand).
If someone has a Pentium setup they'd like to try this with
(we have some around here; I haven't gotten around to it yet)
let me know.
I'm going to try my NeXTStation Color Turbo a little later;
stay tuned.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: ritsch@iem.mhsg.ac.at (DI Winfried Ritsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple External CD-Rom and NeXT Cube ?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 09:43:53 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <36gmkp$omo@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
References: <36eldo$lt5@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> Can I connect an old-ish Apple External CD-Rom drive to the SCSI port
> on the back on a 68030 NeXT Cube running NeXT 2.X ? If so do I just
> plug it in and let it go ?
>
What is old-ish, I have since 2 years a Apple CD300 with a Sonydrive CDU-8003A and it works fine, even with CDPlayer. The NeXT-CDRom (black) also has a Sony drive in it, but a older Modell so it wont work with AudioCDs.
mfg Winfried Ritscho ?
>
What is old-ish, I have since 2 years a Apple CD300 with a Sonydrive CDU-8003A and it works fine, even with CDPlayer. The NeXT-CDRom (black) also
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: freeband@netcom.com (Nick Porcaro)
Subject: WANTED: NeXTStation 040
Message-ID: <freebandCwwLEy.2nv@netcom.com>
Keywords: 040 NeXTStation turbo mono slab
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 18:16:10 GMT
I am interested in buying a 040 NeXTStation turbo (or no turbo)
I can pay a fair price and soon,
Please email me nick@ccrma.stanford.edu,
or call 415-553-8769
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nimbus.ruhr.de!snoopy (Ingo Schaefer)
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Message-ID: <CwyF53.EE@nimbus.ruhr.de>
Sender: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer)
Organization: Private Site, Germany
References: <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:55:50 GMT
In article <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com> tdave@raivac.com writes:
> I have just tried the new SoundBlaster beta driver from NeXT (available
> from ftp.next.com) and am still confused. The documentation is ambiguous
> as to whether the driver will work with an ISA card. When installed the
> driver I did get some sound but it was more like a dying tasmanian devil
> than what I had selected. Anybody else with similar experiences?
>
> Regards,
> Dave Thompson
I have problems with the driver too
There are some error outputs in /usr/admin/messages
Sep 30 10:51:53 nimbus mach: SoundBlaster: sound stream encoding
'linear16'
Sep 30 10:51:53 nimbus mach: SoundBlaster: not supported dma 16 bit word
transfer width
Sep 30 10:51:53 nimbus mach: SoundBlaster: DMA stopped
-
Ingo
eMail: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (NeXT-Mail welcome)
From: kwl@oldp.uk.stratus.com (Keith W. E. Laidlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is the SB16 (beta) driver from NeXT available yet?
Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:36:31 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <36gpnf$cgb@transfer.stratus.com>
Does anyone know if the SB16 (beta) driver from NeXT is available yet?
I had some problems with the PD one but somebody (snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de)
pointed out how to correct it.
--
Kind Regards
Keith W. E. Laidlaw
Stratus Computers; European Support for Databases
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham)
Subject: COGENT Ethernet PCI adapter
Message-ID: <CwxzFz.Gyp@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:16:45 GMT
Hi
has anyone purchased one of these board and tested it with NS ?
thanks for your comments
Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch>
LYSIS S.A.
Switzerland
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft Mouse 2.0A problems
Date: 30 Sep 1994 15:34:32 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36hb68$39f@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <36g68q$e9e@pdx1.i.net>
In article <36g68q$e9e@pdx1.i.net> steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
writes:
> In article <1994Sep28.145617.12024@bozell.com> jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com
> (Jeff Martin) writes:
> >
> > We just bought 4 pentium machines that came with Microsoft's new
> ergonomic
> > mouse (Microsoft Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.0A). They exhibit the
> same
> > behavior on several different brands of PC - they jump around alot,
> > usually when you aren't even using the mouse. We have temporarily
> swapped
> > them out with another brand, but I was wondering if anyone else has
seen
> > this problem.
> >
> > ... jeff
> I reported this problem 3 or 4 months ago to NeXT.. When I received my
> GW-2000 P5-90 it came with the MS mouse 2.0a also. I had the exeact same
> problem, I called GW, thinking it was a bad mouse, so They sent me
another
> one, same problem, So I went out a purchased a Logitech PS2 mouse.
> Evertything works great now..
Don't necessarily take this as gospel, but we're told by a reliable source
that this was a firmware problem with some of the earlier mice. They have
since released a mouse with new firmware (referred to as a: "defender"
..god only knows why they call it that other than maybe it will protect
them from all the flames they've undoubtably received :-) We have two of
these mice here and they're working just fine. Unfortunately, I don't
know how to tell the new mice from the old ones since they look the same
(both are apparently marked 2.0A). If I find out, I'll post it.
Hope this help...
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: SyQuest 270MB works on Black. Yeah!
Message-ID: <Cwy6LD.sq@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:51:11 GMT
Yes, the SyQuest SCSI 270MB drive works like a charmer with black hardware.
It's quite fast and silent.
For those interested, here's some answers to questions I had :
1.) The drive is plug 'n play, right?
Yes.
2.) No extra disktab or else required?
Yes.
3.) media are recognized as removable, thus allow for changing wo/ poweroff/reboot?
Yes.
No need to insert a medium for initial booting from hd - the drive times out ok.
4.) formatted medium allows for ~230MB, possible to build bootable disks?
Yes,
~221MB for Next formatted,
~250MB for Mac-formatted (ok for files, folders etc. - choking on long filenames)
Thanks to all those who replied to my previour post concerning this matter.
Juergen
---
Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617
== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
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From: troyw@csn.org (Troy Weingart)
Subject: Re: Zeos Pentium
Message-ID: <CwyI74.459@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <36cise$igd@news.cais.com> <36erkt$aol@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 19:01:51 GMT
Charles400 (charles400@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <36cise$igd@news.cais.com>, shunter@cais2.cais.com (Steve K
: Hunter) writes:
: Zeos claims it does, however the CD-Rom MUST be scsi. It adds 300 bucks to
: the price since the only scsi drives they use are NEC 3X. be prepared to
: drop another 259$ on a scsi adaptor that the salesman says you need!
Zeos sells a SCSI upgrade - - a chip for 49 bucks that plugs into the mother
board. I don't know if this works with NEXTSTEP however. Does anyone have
NEXTSTEP working on one of the Zeos pentiums?
--
* Troy Weingart Internet: troyw@csn.org *
* 6825 Ashley Drive AT&Tnet: 719.574.9844 *
* Colo Sprgs, CO 80922 *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ab428@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Richard Lacelle)
Subject: WORM Drive and NeXTSTEP with DPT SCSI Card
Message-ID: <CwyCtC.9nq@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (Usenet News Admin)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:05:36 GMT
I have a panasonic worm drive that I want to use under nextstep? My SCSI
card says it's supported and it shows up upon boot. My question is how do
I write info to it? Has anyone tried this before?
Richard Lacelle
--
Richard Lacelle
e-mail: laceller@phoenix.ca
From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can a DAT backup tape be restored by other brand's backup tape drive ?
Date: 29 Sep 1994 18:44:28 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <36f1uc$ck@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I have some files that is backuped by a DAT drive made by microtech (wangDat mechanism.) Well, I no more have the DAT backup drive. Can I restore the file in the tape by other DAT backup drive ?
Thansk,
Chun-Yen Kuo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Subject: help connecting logitech mouse/track-man to black, non-ADB system
Message-ID: <Cwy6vF.EFH@athena.ulaval.ca>
Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:57:14 GMT
Hello world,
Here I am, I collected a bunch of posts on how to do this and finally went out
to purchase a trackman. All the info I got so far gave connections to be made
from the NeXT pins to a 10-pin connector in the logitech device. When I opened
the trackman, it had 7 (seven) connectors.
So the question is, what are the connections to be made from:
the logitech device:
7 pin, inside mouse (what I saw):
1 red
2 brown
3 yellow
4 green
5 black
6 orange
7 white
or, at the 6-pin plug at the end of the mouse wire (seen from the outside)
a b
c d
x x: plastic pin
e f
to the NeXT connectors:
On the NeXT end: 1: +5V 5: YB
6 7 8 2: XA 6: Right button
3 4 5 3: XB 7: Left button
1 2 4: YA 8: Ground
Shell: chassis ground
Thks!
---
+-------------------------------------------------------+
| Antoine Gautier |
| Departement OSD, FSA |
| Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ |
| Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca |
+-------------------------------------------------------+
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 18:08:04 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8iX8l4_00iUz09PYtH@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CwyF53.EE@nimbus.ruhr.de>
The problem is that the system sounds need to be converted to linear8
from linear16. Use sndconvert* I think it's in the docs somewhere.
-Leo
+----------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
| Leo Turetsky | Carnegie-Mellon University | Did you get |
| professor@cmu.edu | Sophomore, ECE\CS Double Major | your USRDA |
| NeXT Mail coming soon | Rule #5: Push stop to continue. | of Vitamins |
+----------------------esp---------------------------------+ A C L M and |
| ...so you can make me cum that doesn't make you Jesus... | T today? |
+----------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
From: jantoniou@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Talus Questions
Date: 1 Oct 1994 04:56:19 GMT
Organization: UC Davis
Message-ID: <36iq5j$nuk@mark.ucdavis.edu>
I purchased the Talus driver for the NCR 53c8xx (mine is a 53c810) and must say
I felt it was good money wasted. Though I'm not entirely certain it is the drivers'
fault, I could not run NSFIP in an even remotely reliable fashion. Eventually, I had
to delete NS from my system, in deference to other operating systems. I suppose
Talus would prefer I e-mail bugs or potential bugs to them, but I am posting this
to the general NS community in the hopes that my problems might be resolved.
The main problem I was getting with "DPS errors" that would lock up the system or
send it in an endless loop, I suppose trying to correct the DPS errors. This happened
constantly and, needless to say, made it very difficult for me to enjoy NeXTStep.
My configuration is: P54C-90 ("SUPER VL-PCI" momboard) with 32MB RAM,
#9 GXE Level-12 VLB card, NCR PCI SCSI host adapter, Micropolis 2217 1.7GB
SCSI HDD, Microsoft Mouse, NEC 510 CD-ROM, etc. etc. I know there are patches
for the #9GXE, but I never installed them. If that is a potential source for "DPS errors"
then someone please let me know.
Thanks in advance for any help! - Jim Antoniou
From: nextug@ac.dal.ca (Christopher Majka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial Port Help
Message-ID: <1994Oct1.111141.27988@ac.dal.ca>
Date: 1 Oct 94 11:11:41 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Oh great communications gurus of the Internet:
who can fill in the following four blanks for me?
Macintosh DIN8 Serial Port Pin-out:
Pin # Signal Name Abbreviation
1 Data Terminal Ready DTR
2 Data Set Ready DSR
3 Transmit Data- TXD ?
4 Signal Ground GND
5 Receive Data- RXD ?
6 Transmit Data + ?
7 Data Carrier Detect DCD
8 Receive Data+ ?
I am trying to determine how to change the pin-outs between a NeXT
DIN8 serial port and a Macintosh DIN8 serial port and the terminology
of describing the two does not mesh. The pin-out of a NeXT serial port is:
NeXT DIN8 Serial Port Pin-out:
Pin # Signal Name Abbreviation
1 Data Terminal Ready DTR
2 Data Carrier Detect DCD
3 Transmit Data TXD
4 Signal Ground GND
5 Receive Data RXD
6 Request to Send RTS
7 ? RTXC
8 Clear to Send CTS
Anyone know what RTXC is an abbreviation for?
With many thanks, your humble servant,
Please reply via Email
Christopher Majka
nextug@ac.dal.ca
From: khurshee@girtab.usc.edu (Wajeeh Khursheed)
Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Info on High Speed Disk Copiers?
Date: 1 Oct 1994 12:13:02 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: khurshee@girtab.usc.edu
Distribution: ca
Message-ID: <36kcbu$hde@girtab.usc.edu>
I would like some information on a commercial disk copier service or machine in the Los Angeles area. Or if someone can give me some info on the manufacturer of such machines. I am interested in a machine that copies 100 or 200 disks at a time.
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Stealth and Sony question
Date: 1 Oct 1994 12:41 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <1OCT199412411688@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Howdy. I've got a Stealth 64bit video card and a Sony Triniton 17se
monitor. I can run NS at 1152x864 at 60Hz (which is visually ok) but
I can not run that resolution at 75Hz. At 75Hz, I notice the following:
All the scroller background areas (i.e. the "channel" or depressed
area) that are displayed in the *upper half*
of the Sony monitor have a distortion that gives
one the impression of "micro bubbles" rising
towards the top of the monitor. In these same areas I
can see a shadow of the arrow-pointer or the highlighted
"box" when a browser item is selected immediately to the left
of the scroller channel.
In non-background and non-scroller "channel" areas (say in the login
panel or in a icon) randomly scattered black pixels
appear with a single row of "bubbles" eminating upward from
them. Again, this occurs only in the upper half of the
monitor. Moving the "bubbling" spot down below that half way
line makes the bubbling (and the black pixel) go away. These
black pixels are not part of the panel or icon image.
In other areas (say the bottom of the login panel) I will see
arcs of scattered "white" pixels.
In the bottom half of the monitor, I have not observed any distortions
at 75Hz.
I have 4MB on the Stealth (PCI) board.
I'd appreciate any advice on why this phenomenon is occuring. 60Hz looks
o.k. to me; but I understand that some folks see "quivering", etc, at that
frequency; so I'd prefer to run things at 75Hz.
Any ideas? Anyone else running with similar hardware?
Thanks.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: twasko@ccinet.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sound Card advice for Intel h/w please?
Date: 2 Oct 1994 02:41:19 GMT
Organization: CCI Networks, a division of Corporate Computers Inc.
Message-ID: <36l6kf$g0u@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca>
References: <780846812snz@unitec.demon.co.uk>
In article <780846812snz@unitec.demon.co.uk>, Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk (Phil Robinson) says:
>
>After reading this group for a while, I do't find any really
>definitive info. on a reliable soundcard for an intel box:
>
>Briefly: I've tried the PAS 16 and it doesn't work in a variety
>of catastrophic ways from sounds played incorrectly, pauses, stereo
>all wrong, to complete and instant death the instant you try to a
>SND.
>
>I had the Adaptec1542x but after reading the NeXT answers on the
>topic, installed the later driver and got a BusLogic 445S. Same results.
>Now I just want a card that works, and If anyone wants to buy a
>PAS16, let me know!
>Please reply if you know any answers - I don't trust the NeXT h/w
>FAQ AT ALL!
>Thanks...
>Phil
>
>--
>_________________________________________________________
>Phil Robinson. Unified Technology Ltd, UK
>Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk
>voice: 061 236 8406 modem: 061 237 5324 fax: 061 236 7041
>---------------------------------------------------------
I had the PAS, Logitec, and SB16, but none of them worked properly
with the Adaptec either. I finally tried a Microsoft Sound System
and it worked great for NS/I. It may not be the best sound card
for PC games, but it works vey well for NS/I.
Tim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: faust@breeze.seas.ucla.edu (William Perry Faust)
Subject: What ethernet card are you using with Gateway P5-90?
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <Cx12rp.Fx4@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 04:21:23 GMT
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA
A couple of weeks ago I posted a request for P5-90 recommendations.
My thanks to all those who responded.
I ended up buying a Gateway 2000 P5-90 with 32MB of RAM with the
standard 15 inch monitor. I then bought a 1 GB wide SCSI hard drive
from Talus, bundled with the NCR PCI card (can't recall the model
number) and the Talus driver. I also bought a #9GXE64pro video
card with 4MB VRAM, and used NeXT's driver.
The installation went well, except that the NCR driver did not work
with my old NeXT (Sony) CD-ROM drive. I had to borrow a Toshiba
from a friend.
Now for the problem.
I can't get the ethernet card to work. I have tried two different
cards, 3Com's EtherLink III and Intel's EtherExpress 16C, but no
success. I'm using the Intel at present. I keep getting the message
"Configuration server not responding. Hit cntrl-C to continue without
network connection."
If you have a Gateway P5-90, what ethernet card are you using? Any
installation problems?
Things I've tried:
o Moving the IRQ # and base address around.
o Running the ethernet card diagnostics under DOS - it
checks out.
o Testing the cable connection on a black NeXT - the cable
is terminated correctly and the other 6 computers on the
chain are talking up a storm.
o Removing serial and parallel drivers to simplify the
configuration.
o Forcing the Intel card into an 8 instead of 16 bit mode.
I'm stymied. This should be easy! I have the NetInfo server
set up to respond to autoconfiguration requests. Is it possible that
the Gateway is working correctly, but the server is not set up to
respond (I'm running 3.0 on a black NeXT).
Thanks for any advice.
Bill Faust
faust@ljr.com
From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do you have a HP 712/60?
Date: 1 Oct 1994 17:45:50 GMT
Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich
Message-ID: <36k78e$a9@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
References: <1994Sep30.084821.21109@news.media.mit.edu>
wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) wrote in comp.sys.next.hardware:
: Hi folks. Does anyone have an HP 712/60 running NS, and if so,
: would you be willing to take about 30 minutes or so and run
: some code I can NeXTMail you? To be fair, a few files will
: need to be stored in /LocalLibrary/Textures and /LocalLibrary/Shaders,
: which should be a local partition. Also, the machine should probably
: have at least 32MB.
There is a 712/60 standing around, just for testing :-)
The root-pw isn't public, but well.... some NeXT-Experience does it as
well :-))
It is installed with NS 3.2 32MB Ram 1GB Disk... God I love the performance,
but the monitor needs some adjustment.
: Basically, I'm testing my WW3DTester.app and prman speed, where the
: test is pretty stressful (lots of NURBS, three texture maps, one
Well, now a warning: everytime I opended some RIBs the WindowServer died,
very strange behavior.
-daniel
--
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E-Mail: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome)
VIS: ETH-Zentrum IFW B29 CH-8092 Zuerich Tel 01/632-7212 Fax 01/632-1172
Oeffnungszeiten waehrend dem Semester : Mo - Fr : 1215 - 1300
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From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Message-ID: <Cx0CEw.H7q@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <36iq5j$nuk@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 18:52:08 GMT
In article <36iq5j$nuk@mark.ucdavis.edu> jantoniou@ucdavis.edu writes:
> I purchased the Talus driver for the NCR 53c8xx (mine is a 53c810) and
must say
> I felt it was good money wasted. Though I'm not entirely certain it is
the drivers'
> fault,
What makes you even think it's the fault of the Talus driver?
> I could not run NSFIP in an even remotely reliable fashion. Eventually,
I had
> to delete NS from my system, in deference to other operating systems. I
suppose
> Talus would prefer I e-mail bugs or potential bugs to them, but I am
posting this
> to the general NS community in the hopes that my problems might be
resolved.
>
> The main problem I was getting with "DPS errors" that would lock up the
system or
> send it in an endless loop, I suppose trying to correct the DPS errors.
This happened
> constantly and, needless to say, made it very difficult for me to enjoy
NeXTStep.
You suppose a lot....
DPS errors are Display Postscript errors which - in the first place -
should have nothing to do with a SCSI driver. There might be a correlation
though, but....
>
> My configuration is: P54C-90 ("SUPER VL-PCI" momboard) with 32MB RAM,
> #9 GXE Level-12 VLB card, NCR PCI SCSI host adapter, Micropolis 2217
1.7GB
> SCSI HDD, Microsoft Mouse, NEC 510 CD-ROM, etc. etc.
> I know there are patches for the #9GXE, but I never installed them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What does this mean? Do you really think, you can tell anything about
bugs of one or another driver if you don't even get the essentials
right?
> If that is a potential source for "DPS errors"
> then someone please let me know.
Problems with the video subsystem could be connectewd to bugs in the
video driver, yes.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help! - Jim Antoniou
I strongly suspect the motherboard being a problem. First you should
try the patches for the #9, if the problems don't go away, I _suppose_
you should change your motherboard (I don't like VL/PCI combis at all!)
While working on changes: change your attitude also!
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: HELP: Kernel panic (cannot mount root)
Message-ID: <Cx104t.1A5@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <36bq5d$3kn@baugi.ifi.uio.no>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 03:24:28 GMT
Arne Christian Hårseth (arneha@ifi.uio.no) wrote:
: After installing the BT445C-card I got a Kernel panic (I didn't write
: down the message, but it probably was "Kernal panic exception (6, 3,
: v1)"), so I though the reason might be that I hadn't removed the
: A1542-driver in the Config-app and the adress for the BT445C was wrong
: in the Config-app (I had set it to 0x334, but the BT445C defaults to
: 0x330). So I reinstalled the A1542CF-card and booted with the
: following result:
You should remove the A1542 from your configuration, and use the
BT445C by itself, Arne.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody using a Seagate Barracuda on a Slab?
Date: 20 Sep 1994 20:58:36 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Sep20215836@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Subject says it all.
--
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From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 02:33:33 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <BG114d9.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <36iq5j$nuk@mark.ucdavis.edu> <Cx0CEw.H7q@belly.in-berlin.de>
Also in defense of Talus, there have been numerous reports of difficulties
getting the PCI/VLB boards to work at all with NSFIP. We strongly
suggest sticking with recent Intel MBs with current BIOS releases.
Otherwise, you'll more than liekely waste a significant amount of time.
From: jfriello@ccnet.com (Jim Friello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Stuff for sale
Date: 2 Oct 1994 01:00:55 -0700
Organization: CCnet Communications (510-988-7140 guest)
Message-ID: <36lpbn$i4t@ccnet.ccnet.com>
Subject: Stuff for sale
Newsgroups: nj.forsale
Summary:
Keywords:
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Things for sale...
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access rate. Great for bbs use. Inclydes adapter and software.
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Epson MX100-III wide carriage 9 pin printer. $40 w\ 30 day warranty.
Maxtor SCSI-2 540 meg Hard drive. $239 w\ 30 day warranty
Quantum SCSI 105 meg hard drive. $99 w\ 30 day warranty.
16 bit MFM\RLL controllers w\ floppy. $10 w\ 30 day warranty.
8 bit MFM hard drive controller. $5 w\ 30 day warranty.
8 bit floppy controller. $5 w\ 30 day warranty.
Hercules Mono graphics card with printer port. $5 w\ 30 day warranty.
Intel 486sx16 CPU. $35 w\ 30 day warranty.
286 CPU $5 w\ 30 day warranty. 8088 CPU $5 w\30 day warranty.
Realtime Hardware hard disk commpression cards. No more doublespace
slow-downs. This card performs all commpression functions through
hardware, for more better, more reliable compression. The affordable
easy way to triple your hard drive capacity. Will work with all drive
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To purchase an item, or for classes or tutoring,
Call us at 510-549-0606 voice, 510-540-7465 fax, or 510-540-7228 BBS.
Due to our rapid turnover rate, we recommend that you call voice instead
of leaving NET-mail
Sorry, no COD's.
From: jantoniou@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: 2 Oct 1994 10:25:59 GMT
Organization: UC Davis
Message-ID: <36m1rn$kbb@mark.ucdavis.edu>
References: <36iq5j$nuk@mark.ucdavis.edu> <Cx0CEw.H7q@belly.in-berlin.de>
In <Cx0CEw.H7q@belly.in-berlin.de>, kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
>What makes you even think it's the fault of the Talus driver?
I discussed the problem with someone who was much more knowledgeable about
NS/FIP systems than I was. He told me he thought it was the Talus driver. So he
was wrong, maybe.
>You suppose a lot....
Indeed - and why shouldn't I?
>What does this mean? Do you really think, you can tell anything about
>bugs of one or another driver if you don't even get the essentials
>right?
Ah... So you mean that I should not expect NS/FIP to work properly out of the
box? No OS that I know of necessarily works perfectly for everyone, out of
the box or a freeware product like FreeBSD or Linux, but NS/FIP has a full ver-
sion upgrade to its credit whereas the Talus drivers as I understand are fairly
new - released after 3.2 came out correct?
>I strongly suspect the motherboard being a problem. First you should
>try the patches for the #9, if the problems don't go away, I _suppose_
>you should change your motherboard (I don't like VL/PCI combis at all!)
Thanks for THAT suggestion.
>While working on changes: change your attitude also!
What attitude? As I'm sure you did I paid good money for NS/FIP and
willingly paid good money for the Talus drivers - all ostensibly for naught.
If YOU'RE ever happy when you feel like you've wasted money, then
let me and the rest of the world in on your secret.
I will change my attitude either when you change yours or when the fucking
thing works correctly, whichever comes first.
From: pburka@UPEI.CA (PETER WIEBE BURKA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on a Packard Bell
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 16:30:01 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, CANADA
Message-ID: <pburka.88.781115401@UPEI.CA>
References: <362su9$h6i@atlas.cs.upei.ca> <364efi$151@crcnis1.unl.edu>
In article <364efi$151@crcnis1.unl.edu> jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham) writes:
>Post a complete list of your hardware components. What kind of disk
>interface? What kind of video subsystem? How much memory do you
>have? How much VRAM does the local-bus video controller have? (Is
>it a local bus machine at all? I'd assume so, it's a Pentium.) What
>kind of audio hardware? ...
We're looking at a P60 machine with built in PCI IDE controller and built-in
ATI Ultra (2MB VRAM, also PCI). We plan to add a SCSI interface (Adaptec?)
and a Turtle Beach sound card (no specific model yet). Audio performance
will be crucial, so we're going with a high end sound card. Hopefully the
new drivers for the Turtle Beach cards will work right.
Since we don't need a CD-ROM much, we'll just plug the black CD drive into
the SCSI port.
From: "Steven J. McDowall" <mcdowall@mcaltd.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 18:17:26 CST
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network
Message-ID: <76611.mcdowall@mcaltd.com>
I just tried the beta SB16 driver (from ftp.next.com) and had a little
bit of a strange expierence..
First, my SB16 is configured as such
IRQ 10
DMA 1/7
PORT 240
Following the instructions, I installed the driver and configured it
to the above.. I got a warning message about conflicts (My ADAPTEC is at
DMA 5, and that is the default for the SB too)..
But after setting the options no more conflicts..So, I saved the config.
and re-booted..Sure enough...I see the SoundBlaster loaded..Cool I think...
Tried it out (by setting preferences to some noises) and nothing but
static.. Bummer..
Well, I halted my machine (later) and when I turned on the power again,
(after setting a new video size) what happens, but the driver starts
working! Nice stereo sound!
So, my guess is that when I changed video sizes, and resaved the Configure
file, the SoundsBlaster params (especially the PORT #, since 240 had to
be "hand entered" since +/- skip past 240 for some bizarre reason) took
effect..Just a guess..
-Steve
----
Steven J. McDowall
McDowall Computer Associates, Ltd.
mcdowall@mcaltd.com ATT: 612 621-4812
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SoundBlaster 16 works! (ISA/Adaptec/EtherExpress)
Date: 2 Oct 1994 21:28:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <36n8l8$ak3@cs.ubc.ca>
I just tried the SB16 beta driver from NeXTanswers, and I got it working
on my ISA/VL bus 486 WITH Adaptec 1742cf, Intel EtherExpress. I know the
README file for the driver says you can't do that, but you only need to
change your io address for the EtherExpress (see below) and everything
works as advertised (i.e. either playback or recording but not both).
It plays 16-bit 44.1 kHz stereo .snd files without glitches, and I finally
have sound with Xox and other games. :-) Painless recording will have to
wait until NS 3.3 I guess, and hopefully someone who knows how will write
a nice Preference module to adjust line-in, mic, and cd input levels.
It doesn't seem as snappy as my NeXTstation sound (there's a perceptible
delay to explosion sounds in Xox compared to a NeXTstation, for instance).
(chalk this up to bus bandwidth?). I notice more crackling and hiss than
on my NeXTstation as well, but then again, I'm running my SB through a
good stereo where I'd notice those things more.
The only weird problem I found was that compressed sounds (using
sndcompress) did NOT play back (using sndplay) without a lot of dropouts,
errors, etc. Can't be bus bandwidth problems, since there's _less_ data
on the bus, and I thought a 486/66 has more processing power than a
68040/25 to do the decompression. Perhaps NeXTstations use a DSP stream
to do the decompression...
Here's how to get it working. The basic problem is that the SB16's MIDI
port (which can't be disabled) can only be set to use IO address 0x300 or
0x330, which are the defaults for the EtherExpress and Adaptec cards,
respectively. However, the EtherExpress can be set to use just about any
IO address, so you simply have to set it to something else (I used 0x340).
Decide where you want your SB16 card. I set mine to 0x220, IRQ 7, DMA
1,6, and 0x300 (for the MIDI port). If you want to use it for games under
DOS, I recommend using 0x220, IRQ 7 and DMA 1, since a lot of older DOS
games are hardcoded to use those settings. You'll probably have to
remove the Parallel Port driver to use IRQ 7, even though no parallel port
devices ever use an IRQ line. It may be possible to get the parallel
port driver to work without an IRQ line, but I haven't tried it (edit the
Instance0 table)?
1. Before you add hardware, change your Driver settings (so you can
reboot after you install drivers).
a) Install the SB 16 driver from the package. Don't run Configure yet,
since it won't let you choose the MIDI port address and complains about a
conflict.
b) Edit /usr/Devices/SoundBlaster16/Default0.table and set the IO
addresses, IRQ, and DMA channels to be those that you want. There are
some comments to help you. Specifically, I changed "DMA Channels" to "1
6", "IRQ Levels" to "7", and "I/O Ports" to "0x0220-0x0233 0x300-0x301".
c) Now run Configure, and change the EtherExpress IO address to 0x340,
remove the Parallel Port driver if necessary, and install the SoundBlaster
16 driver. You should have no conflicts.
4. Before you install the SB16 card, change the IO address on your
EtherExpress (you can't do this if there's an IO address conflict). Boot
in DOS (from a floppy if you have no DOS partition) and use the
SOFTSET.EXE program from your EtherExpress disk. It writes the IO address
settings into EEPROM or something. No jumpers need to be changed. See
the EtherExpress manual for more info.
5. Set the jumpers on your SB16 card to reflect your configuration (see
the SB16 manuals) and install it.
6. Test it out in DOS. Use the TESTSB16 program. You'll need an
environment string BLASTER=..... which is added to your AUTOEXEC.BAT file
by the SBCONFIG program. Test out your EtherExpress card in DOS if you
can (e.g. run the IPX.COM driver from the EtherExpress disk (with no
parameters). It should install correctly and tell you an Ethernet address
that's not all zeros.)
7. If that all works, you should now be able to restart NEXTSTEP and
everything should work. Boot in verbose mode (press return when it asks
for boot options) to check that everything is going ok.
--
Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca)
Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on a Packard Bell
Date: 2 Oct 1994 21:27:33 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <36n8k5$q95@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <362su9$h6i@atlas.cs.upei.ca> <364efi$151@crcnis1.unl.edu> <pburka.88.781115401@UPEI.CA>
PETER WIEBE BURKA (pburka@UPEI.CA) wrote:
: We're looking at a P60 machine with built in PCI IDE controller and built-in
: ATI Ultra (2MB VRAM, also PCI). We plan to add a SCSI interface (Adaptec?)
: and a Turtle Beach sound card (no specific model yet). Audio performance
: will be crucial, so we're going with a high end sound card. Hopefully the
: new drivers for the Turtle Beach cards will work right.
: Since we don't need a CD-ROM much, we'll just plug the black CD drive into
: the SCSI port.
How big is your hard disk? Is the PCI IDE controller an "enhanced
IDE?" If it is, you may have a problem, depending on how large your
hard drive is. If you get the adaptec SCSI and a SCSI hard disk,
you'll be ok.
I think with minor tweaking you can guarantee that it will run. It may
run without tweaking.
Do you plan on using the machine to develop software? This will be
important to consider when choosing the amount of memory and the size
of your fixed disk.
I don't know about audio support, but if you browse ftp.next.com
(anonymous) you will find hardware support lists. If you have trouble
finding the list, mail to me directly.
--
jham@unlinfo.unl.edu
[microSoftWindows free]; /* If only we could de-allocated all of the
resources it's consuming so easily. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso)
Subject: Re: Sound Card advice for Intel h/w please?
Message-ID: <Cx2FoC.DB@nx1.westminster.ca.us>
Keywords: Sound NeXT Microsoft
Sender: root@nx1.westminster.ca.us (Oscar S. Alonso)
Organization: Oscar S. Alonso Software Enginnering.
References: <36l6kf$g0u@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 21:57:48 GMT
In article <36l6kf$g0u@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca> twasko@ccinet.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
writes:
> In article <780846812snz@unitec.demon.co.uk>, Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk
(Phil Robinson) says:
> >
> >After reading this group for a while, I do't find any really
> >definitive info. on a reliable soundcard for an intel box:
> >
> >Briefly: I've tried the PAS 16 and it doesn't work in a variety
> >of catastrophic ways from sounds played incorrectly, pauses, stereo
> >all wrong, to complete and instant death the instant you try to a
> >SND.
> >
> >I had the Adaptec1542x but after reading the NeXT answers on the
> >topic, installed the later driver and got a BusLogic 445S. Same
results.
> >Now I just want a card that works, and If anyone wants to buy a
> >PAS16, let me know!
> >Please reply if you know any answers - I don't trust the NeXT h/w
> >FAQ AT ALL!
> >Thanks...
> >Phil
> >
> >--
> >_________________________________________________________
> >Phil Robinson. Unified Technology Ltd, UK
> >Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk
> >voice: 061 236 8406 modem: 061 237 5324 fax: 061 236 7041
> >---------------------------------------------------------
>
> I had the PAS, Logitec, and SB16, but none of them worked properly
> with the Adaptec either. I finally tried a Microsoft Sound System
> and it worked great for NS/I. It may not be the best sound card
> for PC games, but it works vey well for NS/I.
>
> Tim
I'm using the Microsoft Sound System V2.0 board with an Adaptec 1540C
and it seems to work fine. However, it's not the best board for
DOS games.
Oscar.
oscar@nx1.westminster.ca.us
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: JCIS Soundcard for NEXTSTEP/Intel?
Date: 2 Oct 1994 23:24:44 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <36nffs$bic@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Keywords: JCIS, soundcard, NS/FIP
I've recently heard about a new sound card from JCIS, designed with
NEXTSTEP in mind. Is this currently in production? Anyone know how
good it is?
So far, Ariel and Turtle Beach seem like good bets, especially since
they have cards supported by the newly-ported Music Kit, I believe.
Anyone know if the JCIS card would work with the Music Kit?
Thanks,
David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: faust@breeze.seas.ucla.edu (William Perry Faust)
Subject: Re: What ethernet card are you using with Gateway P5-90? (SOLVED)
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <Cx2Kw6.8yC@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 23:50:28 GMT
References: <Cx12rp.Fx4@seas.ucla.edu>
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA
Boy am I dumb. The problem with my ethernet connection has been solved.
The ethernet card was working all along! I had monkeyed around with
netmask a while ago when configuring a SLIP connection. This was the
cause of my problems. When I reset everything back to the default values,
it worked like a charm.
Thanks to all those who responded.
If you are interested in my Gateway configuration, send me mail and
I'll give you the specifics.
Bill Faust
faust@ljr.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 3 Oct 1994 00:32:33 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <36o1h1$f1j@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory and information server, built around
the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia
announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability
to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://www.stepwise.com/
or
http://digifix.digifix.com/
using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic.
If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you
access to the server as well.
The entries currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
- User Group locations
- Mailing List archives and information
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is
available. You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
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--------------------------
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
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NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news://comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news://comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
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ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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From: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 3D Graphics under NS/HP
Date: 2 Oct 1994 10:22:17 GMT
Organization: at home
Message-ID: <36m1kp$gnf@ramsys.sta.sub.org>
References: <36f36j$t4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Greg Yut writes
> I had the opportunity to look at some HP workstations today,
> but none were running NS. An attractive configuration might be
> the 715/80 with the HCRX-24Z graphics subsystem. The subsystem
> has 12/12 bit double buffering and a 24-bit Z buffer.
>
> Would NS/HP take full advantage of the double buffering and Z-buffer?
The Z-Buffer is not supported by NShp. Its gracefully ignored by the
Windowserver.
Cheers
Reimer
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printer cable for NeXT Cube.
Date: 3 Oct 1994 08:55:36 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <36ogu8$c53@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Does anyone know the pin connections for the printer cable for a NeXT
cube and a NeXT laser printer, I know that both ends of the cable are
9 pin males but need to know the actual connections.
Cheers Rupert.
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
URL : http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/welcome.html
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: adding memory to a Nextstation
Date: 3 Oct 1994 10:20:52 -0500
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin
Message-ID: <36p7gk$6vr@post.its.mcw.edu>
I need some additional memory for my nextstation '040. Any recommendations?
Do I need to send the machine in or can I open it myself? Any caveats?
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Robert D. Morris, MD, PhD Phone:414 456-8382
PO Box 26509 Fax: 414 266-8502
Medical College of Wisconsin
Milwaukee, WI 53226 Internet: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: 3 Oct 1994 15:34:01 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36p899$gkh@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <36m1rn$kbb@mark.ucdavis.edu>
In <Cx0CEw.H7q@belly.in-berlin.de>,
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) writes:
> > What makes you even think it's the fault of the
> > Talus driver?
Good question. I don't see anything that
indicates SCSI errors.
> I discussed the problem with someone who was much
> more knowledgeable about NS/FIP systems than I
> was. He told me he thought it was the Talus
> driver. So he was wrong, maybe.
If he didn't know what "DPS" errors were then he
didn't know a great deal about NS. I suggest you
get help from someone else. This group is one of
the best places to get that help. (Then again,
you could have just called us, rather than
flaming us on the net :-)
> > You suppose a lot....
> Indeed - and why shouldn't I?
Because you're assumptions are incorrect :-)
> > What does this mean? Do you really think, you can
> > tell anything about bugs of one or another driver
> > if you don't even get the essentials right?
Very true and you may have more than a single
problem, so don't assume _anything_.
> Ah... So you mean that I should not expect NS/FIP
> to work properly out of the box? No OS that I
> know of necessarily works perfectly for everyone,
> out of the box or a freeware product like FreeBSD
> or Linux, but NS/FIP has a full ver- sion upgrade
> to its credit whereas the Talus drivers as I
> understand are fairly new - released after 3.2
> came out correct?
Yes, you should not assume that you can just dump
NS, regardless of the release version, onto any
piece of Intel hardware you happen to have and
expect it to work. If you follow this group
you'll find that people who are VERY knowledgable
when it comes to NS have had nightmares trying to
put together hardware combinations that actually
work in unison. It's almost a black art and it's
the reason people pay a premium for machines that
_do_ just run, right out of the box.
> > I strongly suspect the motherboard being a
> > problem. First you should try the patches for the
> > #9, if the problems don't go away, I _suppose_
> > you should change your motherboard (I don't like
> > VL/PCI combis at all!)
> Thanks for THAT suggestion.
It's hard to diagnose your problem with the little
bit of info that you're giving us, but I too would
suspect a motherboard problem, providing the #9 is
configured properly. If you don't want
suggestions, why did you ask? It's not all that
expensive to switch out a motherboard and it may
be your only solution...unless you _prefer_ to
just whine about NS, drivers, etc.
> > While working on changes: change your attitude
> > also!
> What attitude? As I'm sure you did I paid good
> money for NS/FIP and willingly paid good money
> for the Talus drivers - all ostensibly for
> naught. If YOU'RE ever happy when you feel like
> you've wasted money, then let me and the rest of
> the world in on your secret.
>
> I will change my attitude either when you change
> yours or when the fucking thing works correctly,
> whichever comes first.
You obviously haven't chosen to call us here at
Talus for help. You flame people who are trying to
help you....and you don't think you have an
attitude adjustment coming? (and your mother
obviously never tried the "bar of soap" treatment
on you.)
If you feel that you've wasted your money on a
Talus driver, send email to Jason@talus.com and
we'll be happy to refund your money (though it
doesn't sound like a problem with our driver).
If you want help getting a NS system together,
you're posting to the right group....but I'd
change your approach drastically.
Steve Sarich III
President
Talus Imaging
From: griffon@unixg.ubc.ca (griffon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 09:10:22 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <griffon.317.000A0607@unixg.ubc.ca>
Okay...
Now I know I should get a Intel Motherboard PCI bux only...Some people seems
to have alot of problems with PCI/VL combos...No to the vid cards...Does 4MB
on a Vid card actually make such a big difference? I know u need 2 MB for
32bit color is that good enuff....performance wise? Because 2MB Vram is pretty
expensive...so....
Thanks fot the info...I am considering a ATI Xpression and or a #9 card...any
suggestion comments? and one more thing...How much is a talus driver?
Griff
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: adding memory to a Nextstation
Date: 3 Oct 1994 16:27:31 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <36pbdj$9rd@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <36p7gk$6vr@post.its.mcw.edu>
In article <36p7gk$6vr@post.its.mcw.edu>,
Robert Morris <rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu> wrote:
>I need some additional memory for my nextstation '040. Any recommendations?
>Do I need to send the machine in or can I open it myself? Any caveats?
>Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
>--
Call Chip Merchant in San Diego - they have a 800 number, call 8005551212
for the actual number. I bought 4 - 4meg SIMMS a while back (bringing
my machine up to 20meg). Here at OSU they did it while I waited, and
they are a NeXT service point.
Anyone with an allen-type wrench and properly grounded can do the work.
A decent computer repair shop shouldn't have a problem with it- and
you may get some curious looks and questions about the black pizza box.
Buy as much RAM as you can...
--
*** Michael Conners - Ohio State University ***
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just." - Jefferson
Don't Tread on Me.
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need Intel GX cpu
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.114657.18475@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 3 Oct 94 11:46:57 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
Recently, we had a hardware problem (still do - not fixed yet)
with our year old Intel GX Professional. (The one with the
ATI graphics chipset on the motherboard.) This machine
(486-2/66) has a DPT2022 EISA SCSI controller, an Intel
Etherexpress card, a DEC 1.5 (or so) HD, and 40MB of RAM.
We will almost certainly buy a Pentium server soon but
it would be nice to have a backup computer for the Intel
GX, especially since I have a backup on an external 1GB
HD - I could switch to a backup computer just by hooking
Recently, we had a hardware problem (still do - not fixed yet)
with our year old Intel GX Professional. (The one with the
ATI graphics chipset on the motherboard.) This machine
(486-2/66) has a DPT2022 EISA SCSI controller, an Intel
Etherexpress card, a DEC 1.5 MB (or so) HD, and 40MB of RAM.
We will almost certainly buy a Pentium server soon but
it would be nice to have a backup cpu for the Intel
GX, especially since I have a backup on an external 1GB
HD - I could switch to a backup computer just by hooking
up the alternate cpu to the external SCSI and monitor
and boot up.
So, I would like to purchase new or used a Intel GX cpu
(pizza box style - 3 slots - I heard that the new GX's
are somewhat different and don't have 16 bit video on the
motherboard) and configure it with about 24MB of RAM and
new Etherexpress and DPT 2022 cards. I would buy this
without a HD and boot off of the external drive.
Any dealers have new Intel GX's like I describe or can build
one? Anyone have a used machine for sale (even with more
goodies included)?
Thomas J. Herbert
Associate Professor
Department of Biology
University of Miami
(305) 284-6220
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Vectra XM S3928 NS Driver
Date: 3 Oct 1994 16:37:42 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <36pc0m$mo5@news.iastate.edu>
I have a Hewlett Packard Vectra 486/66 XM. The NEXTSTEP 3.2 S3 driver
does very poorly with the supported 8-bit grayscale 1280x1024@60Hz
published in NeXTanswers.
It looks very nice in 16-bit color 1024x768@72Hz in both NEXTSTEP and
Windows. Also, the HP Windows driver looks great in 8-bit color
1280x1024@60Hz. Therefore, I suspect that the driver is at fault.
Has anyone been able to get this to work?
The symptom is that the screen is very dark (even at the highest
brightness of the HP Ultra VGA 1280 monitor) and gets darker toward the
bottom of the screen... Only the top few inches are usable and barely at
that. I would not want to use it for everyday work...
Thank you!
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory
College of Veterinary Medicine
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 13:01:58 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <36pde6$hdr@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <griffon.317.000A0607@unixg.ubc.ca>
griffon (griffon@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Okay...
: Now I know I should get a Intel Motherboard PCI bux only...Some people seems
: to have alot of problems with PCI/VL combos...No to the vid cards...Does 4MB
: on a Vid card actually make such a big difference? I know u need 2 MB for
: 32bit color is that good enuff....performance wise? Because 2MB Vram is pretty
: expensive...so....
: Thanks fot the info...I am considering a ATI Xpression and or a #9 card...any
: suggestion comments? and one more thing...How much is a talus driver?
The amount of VRAM has nothing to do with speed. It affects the
resolutions and the color depth. 2MB would be enough for 1024x768 16-bit
or 800x600 32-bit. A 4MB card can display 1152x896 32-bit color. Avoid
the Xpression - it's based on much slower DRAM. I've read many
unfavorable reports about the NeXT #9 driver. On the other hand, the
Talus driver for the Graphics Pro Turbo (mach64) is excellent. I'm
actually getting higher NXBench numbers in 32-bit color than in 16-bit,
and I use the card in 32-bit regularly. Talus sells a bundle with the GPT
and driver (info@talus.com for pricing). Recommended.
- Jay
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DOS and NEXTSTEP Dual-boot?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 18:18:04 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <36phss$osa@news.iastate.edu>
I have successfully installed DOS and NEXTSTEP partitions on a 516MB SCSI
drive and can boot both DOS 6.2 and NEXTSTEP 3.2, but very little space
remains on either partition.
The DOS partition is 200MB. After installing DOS 6.2 and Office
Professional, there is only 87MB of free space. Windows also states that
because of the way that the disk was partitioned, the swapfile can not be
permanent. Therefore, I am assuming that I should leave 8-20MB free for
swapping, giving only 67-79MB of space available for data and additional
programs.
Only 145MB remains free on the NEXTSTEP 3.2 partition. Since most
programs and data files will be stored on the Home directory server, I am
not too concerned about this, but I am curious about how much space should
be reservered for swapping. Is the swapdisk area a fixed size of dynamic?
If dynamic, then how much space should I expect NEXTSTEP to need for
swapping? The machine has 40MB of main memory and we have decided to
stick to the 16-bit color 1024x768@72Hz video mode.
I think that I can remove the NextAdmin, NextApps and NextDeveloper/Demos
folders and replace them with symbolic links to corresponding folders on
the server, regaining 14MB of storage.
Given all of this, is 516MB really enough to run DOS+Windows+OfficePro and
NEXTSTEP 2.3 User?
If I add another SCSI drive, will I be able to put DOS and NEXTSTEP
partitions on it? I have heard that NEXTSTEP will only mount a DOS
partition found on the first drive, not the second etc. If a second drive
is added, what is the best way to partition them?
How about adding an IDE drive for DOS? The computer already has a
built-in IDE controller... How does one install NEXTSTEP and DOS on both
IDE and SCSI drives so that you can boot from either without a floppy
disk?
Would we be better off purchasing larger drives on future machines? How
big is big enough?
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory
College of Veterinary Medicine
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
From: nick@genesis1.physics.yale.edu (Nicholas J. Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is ACER's P90 system Nextstep compatible?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 19:38:49 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Message-ID: <36pmk9$9kq@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
We're thinking of buying an ACER Pentium 90 (details below) to run
Nextstep (cos it's the cheapest we've found!). It's not on the Next
hardware compatibility guide...
Has anyone tried this (or any other ACER machine) and come to grief
or joy?
System details: v12c P90
8+8+8 = 24MB memory
1 GB SCSI hardrive
STB graphic accelerator
Responses by e-mail to nick@genesis1.physics.yale.edu
I'll summarize for the net if there's interest.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: igahir@poly.eecs.wsu.edu (Inderjit Gahir - EECS (EE501))
Subject: Re: adding memory to a Nextstation
Message-ID: <Cx41DA.HLx@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities
References: <36p7gk$6vr@post.its.mcw.edu> <36pbdj$9rd@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 18:43:57 GMT
In article <36pbdj$9rd@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Michael R Conners <mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
...
>
>Call Chip Merchant in San Diego - they have a 800 number, call 8005551212
>for the actual number. I bought 4 - 4meg SIMMS a while back (bringing
>my machine up to 20meg). Here at OSU they did it while I waited, and
>they are a NeXT service point.
By the way, what type of SIMMS (speed, parity) work in a mono non-turbo
NeXTstation? And how do pull out those darn chips? On a PC motherboard
they are relatively simple...
>
>Anyone with an allen-type wrench and properly grounded can do the work.
>A decent computer repair shop shouldn't have a problem with it- and
>you may get some curious looks and questions about the black pizza box.
>
>Buy as much RAM as you can...
>--
> *** Michael Conners - Ohio State University ***
>"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just." - Jefferson
> Don't Tread on Me.
-Indy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: JCIS
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.183508.26322@iitmax.iit.edu>
Keywords: JCiS computers
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 94 18:35:08 GMT
Hello,
I am getting close to buying one or two Intel systems to run
NEXTSTEP. I just received a flier from JCis which has
a nice selection of NEXTSTEP hardware, Talus drivers, among other things.
They have good prices, and I'm wondering if anyone can comment on
their machines, service, and value.
How do they compare to eCesys? Any comments are appreciated.
Thanks
Chris Conley
Chicago
From: janeinar@fortius.altus.no (Jan Einar Visnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems with Compaq Deskpro XE 560 and Weitek P9000 graphics card
Date: 3 Oct 1994 20:38:19 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <36pq3s$n61@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Keywords: Compaq and P9000
Have one Compaq Deskpro XE 560 with 24 Mb ram, Sony CPD 1730 and a Weitek
P9000 graphics card. We are running NeXTStep from an external scsi disk.
Problem: Unable to get anything else than standard VGA, 2 bit gray.
Thanks for all help
--
__________________________________
Dag Storrosten
Altus Interactive
Oslo Research Park
Gaustadalleen 21
0371 Oslo
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Why won't internal modems work?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 16:52:30 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <36pque$ci8@oclc.org>
I keep seeing people mention that NEXTSTEP/FIP does not work for (some/
most) internal modems. Two questions:
1. Why not? (I ask this in spite of the fact that I'm not a PC hardware
guru; my gut just tells me that internal modems ought to be the same
hardware as external modems, without the plastic box - aren't they?)
2. I've already (naturally!) got an internal modem - a Practical
Peripherals 14.4 fax/data model purchased about 3 months ago. Can
anybody tell me if it will or won't work?
Thanks very much,
Robin (rhm@oclc.org)
--
Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section
OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy)
Subject: [intel] Problems with #9GXE64Pro PCI Card with NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.202108.2742@plexare.com>
Sender: usenet@plexare.com
Organization: Plexare Development Corporation
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 20:21:08 GMT
Here is my configuration:
NS 3.2
AIR VP ISA/VESA/PCI Motherboard
Award BIOS v4.50G
#9GXE64Pro PCI Graphics Card w/ NeXT Driver
Adaptec 1542B SCSI Adapter
SMC 16 Ethernet Card
8MB RAM/520MB HD
There seems to be no problem with running the #9 card in standard VGA mode
(althogh my ancient monitor won't sync up to it while it will sync with my
Trident VGA card) the problem starts when I attempt to run the card at
640x480 in 24bit color. Basically the screen looks like uninitialized
memory being sent to the screen as the top 1/10th is red/blue static
followed by about 1/4 of blue static and the rest just being black. Could
someone send me their Default.config file from a properly working #9
driver at this resolution? (The file in inside of the driver wrapper.) I
fear that it's just something stupid, since I have been configuring by
command line since my mouse died.
Thanks,
Mike Barthelemy
msb@plexare.com
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DiamondSteatlh 64
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Oct 1994 22:17:43 GMT
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
Message-ID: <KARTHY.94Oct3231743@dannug.dannug.dk>
If you are using DiamondStealth 64 VRAM PCI boards with NSFIP, could
you please e-mail me at what resolution/refresh rate, amount of VRAM,
monitor and the system config in general.
Thx. Geert B. Clemmensen
Please reply to gclem@dannug.dk
--
--
Karsten Thygesen I Aalborg, Denmark
karthy@dannug.dk (NeXT-Mail welcome) I Voice: +45 98 12 42 59
Chairman, Danish NeXT Users Group I Fax: +45 98 12 44 81
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: sargent@black_duomo (Jeff Sargent)
Subject: Can NEXTSTEP support more than 256Meg RAM?
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.222853.28177@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: Maximum RAM
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 22:28:53 GMT
Is there a limit to the maximum physical RAM NeXTSTEP can support?
I heard a rumor it was 256Mbytes.
Thanks -
- Jeff
sargent@il.us.swissbank.com
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: 3D Graphics under NS/HP
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.003113.23973@news.media.mit.edu>
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 00:31:13 GMT
In article <36f36j$t4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> yut@blue.ecn.purdue.edu (Greg Yut) writes:
>>I had the opportunity to look at some HP workstations today,
>>but none were running NS. An attractive configuration might be
>>the 715/80 with the HCRX-24Z graphics subsystem. The subsystem
>>has 12/12 bit double buffering and a 24-bit Z buffer.
>>
>>Would NS/HP take full advantage of the double buffering and Z-buffer?
>>
No, it's silly to buy a 715 at all, actually, unless you're getting
a 99MHz one and you really need that 20% boost. The 712/80 is an awesome
deal, especially compared to the 715. We just got a 712/80 running
NS here, and while it's not as fast as my 735, it kicks its ass all over
the place with regard to bang for the buck.
If you're getting the 715 instead of the 712 because you think you
really need 24 bits of color and you don't believe the hype on the
Color Recovery Technology on the 712; at least give it a spin - I
found it to be quite astonishing (and would be perfectly acceptable
for my work, for example).
I also find the speed of either of the HPs quite reasonable compared
to any SGI up to (and not including) a Reality Engine. My 735 vs. my
Indigo^2 Extreme shows, for the kind of work I do (lots of curved
surfaces), the 735 running NS's qrman is faster than equivalent
software on the SGI running atop the GL on top of the Extreme board.
Your mileage may certainly vary, but in my case, I'm starving the
graphics pipeline with tesselation, so the HP's superior CPU wins.
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: adding memory to a Nextstation (FAQ)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:40:09 GMT
Organization: Yale University
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Here is the FAQ.
TABLE OF CONTENTS:
------------------
N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
N2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
N3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin
"Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo"
NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz),
NeXTcube (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 16
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin low profile
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB
The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in
the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the
small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install
the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide
the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously.
Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines,
but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with
ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect
parity errors.
[One user adds the following unverified claims:]
It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not
boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb
parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an
exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next.
You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I
have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person.
[Jimmie Quan, NeXT Hardware Service, adds:]
The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series
of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph.
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT)
NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to
fit and work.
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any
faster than the 100 ns units.
NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 4
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 128 MB
For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will
be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns.
NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine
uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using
the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with
your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the
message Testing system... disappears, press
command-command-tilde (~ on the numeric keyboard). Under these
circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards including new 25 MHz
NeXTstations and all Turbo systems will return messages reporting
the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old
25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70
nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four
sockets.
[John Graves, Hardware Engineering, NeXT Computer, Inc. adds]
The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number
of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be
tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just
enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with
fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance.
"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other
than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular
allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus
transfers.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes.
It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool: about
six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To remove
SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM, rest the
head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and pivot the
tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM up about 1/8"
from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side, and the SIMM can be
then removed by hand.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
This list contains only a few vendors; prices listed may change and are
provided as examples only.
There is significant day-to-day fluctuation in prices, especially
since the destruction of a factory in Japan in July that manufactured
resin used in chips. Prices are currently very high.
First Tech Stratum Technologies
Austin, TX
800-533-1744
512-258-3570
512-258-3689 (fax)
[Prices current as of 21-Jul-94]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 34
4x8-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 128
1x9-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 38.50
4x9-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 142
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 138.50
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 275
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 575 (non-composite)
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 515 (composite)
1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 159
2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 319
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 654 (non-composite)
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 579 (composite)
Lifetime Warranty.
Marco International
800-621-4668 (Within US/Canada)
303-449-9191
800 447 8448 (CT Office)
[Prices current as of 21-Jul-94]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 38.50
4x8-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 129
1x9-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 40.50
4x9-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 157
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 148
1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 171
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 295
2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 345
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 585 (non-composite)
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 645 (composite)
8x32-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $1250
8x36-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $1410
Lifetime Warranty, toll-free support, 24hr RMA.
"NeXT certified".
Chip Merchant
9541 Ridgehaven Court
San Diego, CA 92123
(800) 426-6375
South Coast Electronics
Tustin, CA
(800) 289-8801
714-669-9503
Impediment
(617) 837-8877
____________________________________________________________________________
Editor: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: 3 Oct 1994 22:16:21 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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jantoniou@ucdavis.edu writes:
> I purchased the Talus driver for the NCR 53c8xx (mine is a 53c810)
> and must say I felt it was good money wasted. Though I'm not
> entirely certain it is the drivers' fault, I could not run NSFIP
> in an even remotely reliable fashion.
There are a few hundred pieces to a PC, so I don't see why you
point out the Talus driver as the problem.
> I suppose Talus would prefer I e-mail bugs or potential bugs to
> them, but I am posting this to the general NS community in the
> hopes that my problems might be resolved.
It's only fair to at least give them a *chance* to investigate,
before telling the entire world that "you feel" that buying the
driver is good money wasted.
> The main problem I was getting with "DPS errors" that would lock
> up the system or send it in an endless loop, I suppose trying to
> correct the DPS errors. This happened constantly and, needless
> to say, made it very difficult for me to enjoy NeXTStep.
While I'd be pretty frustrated too if NS/Intel did not run reliably
on my system, I fail to see why you think that DisplayPostScript
errors are obviously the fault of the talus driver. It may very
well be the talus driver, but it's not particularly obvious why
you singled that out.
> Thanks in advance for any help! - Jim Antoniou
I do hope you're able to find a solution for the problem you're
having. About all I can contribute is that the Talus driver works
quite well on my system, so it's not like the driver is universally
bad. I'm happier with this than I would have been with an ISA bus
card in my DECpc XL560, which I believe is the configuration that
is recommended by NeXT for the hardware I have. In my book, the
talus driver was well worth the money I spent on it.
I realize that doesn't help your situation at all, so I do hope
someone is able to help you out.
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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: smh@netserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP on P100
Date: 4 Oct 1994 03:26:20 GMT
Organization: NetServices
Distribution: world
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By moving one jumper on the Intel Plato P90 it can be clocked at 100mhz. So
far two machines have worked at 100mhz, and one didn't. Note that success
depends on the luck of the draw; either the chip will support 100mhz, or not.
I am sure you already have a CPU fan, but if not you definately should have one
when pushing the chip beyond the rated speed. Remember, P90's are P100's that
didn't make the cut.
Below are some results using NSFIP 3.2:
Machine: Intel Premiere II Plato, P54-100 (overclocked P54-90)
CPU/Speed/Cachesize: P54/100/256k
Videoadaptor: Stealth 64 PCI 4MB
Comment: 1152x900 @ 32 bit
Integer Performance: 142857 dhrystones/s (90.70 MIPS)
Graphics Performance: 1.8914 (NXFactor 2.0)
Comment: 1280x1024 @ 16 bit
Integer Performance: 145631 dhrystones/s (92.46 MIPS)
Grafics Performance: 1.6035 (NXFactor 2.0)
Comment: 1600x1200 @ 16 bit (60hz)
Integer Performance: 144927 dhrystones/s (92.02 MIPS)
Grafics Performance: 1.5829 (NXFactor 2.0)
To change the motherboard processor speed from 90 mhz to 100 mhz just move the
clock jumper "cata-corner":
From:
o o
X
o o
o o
To:
o o
o o
X
o o
My manual has no label/name for the jumper block, but there is only one jumper
block for speed.
You can also set the PCI clock from 66mhz to 80mhz in the BIOS setup screen.
It is the last item in the Advanced section. Not sure if this matters.
Note that in the Advanced section it now says it is a 100mhz Pentium :)
Mine has been stable for three days now in 24hr operation, hope you have the
same luck.
Good luck!, Scott
From: jantoniou@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: 4 Oct 1994 04:15:13 GMT
Organization: UC Davis
Distribution: world
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References: <36m1rn$kbb@mark.ucdavis.edu> <36p899$gkh@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
In <36p899$gkh@blkbox.blkbox.COM>, talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
>If he didn't know what "DPS" errors were then he
>didn't know a great deal about NS.
Uh, he *did* know what DPS errors were and he told me what
they were. *I* didn't know what DPS errors were. Not sure where
the confusion began on that issue.
>(Then again, you could have just called us, rather than flaming us on
> the net :-)
I never "flamed" Talus, as you put it. I said that I "[feel] like I
wasted good money." As an addendum, I noted that it may not be the
driver's--and indeed I've learned that it's probably not--fault. If this
constitutes a "flame" against Talus, then, welp, I'm real sorry.
>Because you're assumptions are incorrect :-)
If I was taken down the proverbial wrong path, then my only excuse
is my ignorance of NS. And, well, I cannot be too sorry for that. NS
has never operated in a stable and reliable enough fashion for me to
broaden my knowledge and understanding of its various quirks and
problems. Tough <POO-POO> for me I guess.
>Very true and you may have more than a single
>problem, so don't assume _anything_.
Yes, I assumed things where I shouldn't have.
-ten lashes with a wet noodle-
> It's almost a black art and it's
>the reason people pay a premium for machines that
>_do_ just run, right out of the box.
So I've learned . . .
> Thanks for THAT suggestion.
>
>It's hard to diagnose your problem with the little
>bit of info that you're giving us, but I too would
>suspect a motherboard problem, providing the #9 is
>configured properly. If you don't want
>suggestions, why did you ask? It's not all that
>expensive to switch out a motherboard and it may
>be your only solution...unless you _prefer_ to
>just whine about NS, drivers, etc.
OK, fine, I'm a whiner. I didn't know voice intonations
(which, generally, is the way you detect a whine) were
carried over Usenet, but with Talk Radio and such, who
knows.
And I did not make that remark sarcastically. Yes, in
fact, I was thanking him. I emphasized "THAT" because
he was getting pissy at me and wanted him to know
that I meant it.
As for a different motherboard, what (genuine request
for suggestion alert) board might you suggest? I can
ditch a VLB board permanently because I am seriously
considering getting the ATI Mach64 Pro Turbo PCI (and,
yes, I would (ahem) use Talus drivers :) ). I am leaning
towards A.I.R.'s EISA/PCI combo board. Not cheap, but
I have heard a number of a good things about A.I.R.'s
product line. It has an integrated Adaptec 2940W on it,
but I'm sure that can be disabled. In general, what
chipset and BIOS might do the best for me?
>You obviously haven't chosen to call us here at
>Talus for help.
Sorry that I, one, haven't had the time to reconstruct NS
on my system, two, haven't had the time to call Talus, and,
lastly, have not been able to unearth the material Talus
sent to me with the driver (I've moved since then) and thus
do not have the phone number for Talus.
>You flame people who are trying to
>help you....and you don't think you have an
>attitude adjustment coming? (and your mother
>obviously never tried the "bar of soap" treatment
>on you.)
Let's resolve this little problem, shall we?
The original responder to my post has, by some bizarre
impetus, taken my problem(s) with the ASSUMPTION that I
was, as you say, bent on "flaming" Talus. This was how
my post was mistakenly interpreted. And, yes, I can easily
see how there is quite adequate room for that misinterpre-
tation. He proceeds to scold me on my various mistakes
and for my ASSUMED "attitude" problem. I told him, and I'll
tell you, what he can do with his assumptions . . .
. . thus, the breach of decorum.
His response was I'd say in general not framed in a con-
structively critical way. If he had made a polite aside like
"I wouldn't assume that it was the Talus driver's problem
and try not to flame Talus before you know all the facts,"
I would have been much more inclined to adjust my opinions
of my particular array of circumstances. Instead, he bit
my head off by ASSUMING certain things.
>If you feel that you've wasted your money on a
>Talus driver, send email to Jason@talus.com and
>we'll be happy to refund your money (though it
>doesn't sound like a problem with our driver).
Well, I doubt you'll be happy exactly, but thanks for letting
me know. Then again, perhaps you would be happy for
getting me off your back :-)
>If you want help getting a NS system together,
>you're posting to the right group....but I'd
>change your approach drastically.
I'll change my approach in this way, since it appears to be
necessary: I won't leave any room open for misinterpreta-
tion.
For the record, I'll state that, while I appear to have a definite
problem with NS, drivers, and/or hardware, I do NOT have a
problem with Talus. I can see how I left far too much room
for that to be misunderstood. Personally, I love NeXTStep and
think it's a vastly superior interface to anything I've run across
on PCs and workstations, with SGI's "Magic" interface being a
possible exception. I am glad, and thankful, that Talus is
doing work on a much-underappreciated operating system like
NeXTStep. Not many developers are taking that risk along with
them. I realize I may have implied otherwise about Talus. For
that I am, in fact, sorry.
I did post because I was hoping to receive a set of suggestions
that might help me to get NS/FIP running smoothly on my com-
puter. When someone responds so harshly to a post that was
not meant to be even remotely as malevolent as it was assumed
to be, I am more than obliged to be a pain in the butt about it.
If people don't like my being a pain in the butt, well, there are
things like kill-files and cognitive awareness that says "oh,
there's that <insert favorite expletive here>
jantoniou@ucdavis.edu I see posting again and I'm going avoid THAT
<insert second favorite expletive here> for sure!"
Anyway, I do appreciate the suggestions I have received and I will
give NS and the Talus drivers another try on my system.
Thanks - Jim "Kill-File" Antoniou :)
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Dead Cube '040
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.214556.22616@free.fdn.org>
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Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <36alj6$5cl@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 21:45:56 GMT
In article <36alj6$5cl@atlas.cs.upei.ca> student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter
Burka) writes:
> Last Friday one of out Black cubes died a sudden and tragic death.
While
> a user was typing away at the keyboard the system suddenly froze. Cmd-~
> caused no response, and we were unable to power down without unplugging
> the machine.
>
> Once it was plugged back in, and the power key pressed, the monitor
powers
> up, the disks spin, but nothing else happens. No cube on the screen,
> nuttin'. At this point, the system is unresponsive to any keypresses
> (cmd-~, power, etc).
>
> I have tried this with a different monitor, same thing. (Note that
there
> is no audible 'ping,' and no keyboard response, so I don't believe it's
> the video circuitry. Besides, it doesn't work with the NeXTdimension
board
> in, either.)
>
> I've swapped the BIOS EPROM with the chip from a slab, no difference.
>
> I've swapped the batteries, same thing.
>
> I've pulled all the memory and tried it in different combinations, no
> improvement.
>
> I've swapped boards with another machine. The new one works in the
broken
> box, but not the other way around.
>
> I've cleaned the contacts, still nothing.
>
> I don't want to risk damaging a CPU by swapping them, but if someone can
> confirm that the 68040 is my problem I'll give it a shot.
>
> What else should I try? Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Peter
Try to boot with only 4 megs (4 sims near the board edge) and swap them 4
by 4 in order to isolate maybe a faulty simm.
Hope that helps.
Fabien
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: DEC RZ55 disk on next cube
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.215550.22742@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 21:55:50 GMT
In article <36c6te$mru@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> map+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mark
Puskar) writes:
> Has anyone been able to get a DEC RZ55 disk to work
> on a next cube? /etc/disk will format the disk but
> the init command fails with "incomplete data transfer"
> messages.
>
> The RZ55 block size is set to 512. I've made an
> entry in /etc/disktab with sector size of 512 and
> tried to label and init the disk without success.
>
> I've tried both 2.0 and 2.1 versions of the operating system.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Mark Puskar
>
Sector size are always 1024 bytes in disktab regardless of physical sector
size (512 or 1024) and partition block count is also counted in 1024 bytes
increment.
You should change the sector size to 1024 and divide by 2 the total disk
sector count minus 160 blocks and assign a front porch size of 160 block.
The front porch is needed for the disk label and boot sectors.
Hope that helps
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: DEC RZ55 disk on next cube
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.220703.22814@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <1994Oct3.215550.22742@free.fdn.org>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 22:07:03 GMT
In article <1994Oct3.215550.22742@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org
(Fabien Roy) writes:
> Sector size are always 1024 bytes in disktab regardless of physical
sector
> size (512 or 1024) and partition block count is also counted in 1024
bytes
> increment.
> You should change the sector size to 1024 and divide by 2 the total disk
> sector count minus 160 blocks and assign a front porch size of 160
block.
> The front porch is needed for the disk label and boot sectors.
>
> Hope that helps
>
I forgot to say that you have to get a hand on the rz55 scsi manual to
modify a modeselect page of the drive to change the way disconnection are
handled.
sdformat could help you to change that modeselect page.
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/util/sdformat_1.2.MIH.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/util/sdformat_1.2.MIH.README
Hope that helps
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Segate Barracuda problems
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.222855.22956@free.fdn.org>
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References: <1994Sep29.094217.35009@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 22:28:55 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article
<1994Sep29.094217.35009@hulaw1.harvard.edu> you wrote:
> Like an idiot, I tried to change the name of my external Barracuda
> ST12550N using builddisk. It came back with an error that it could
> not format the drive, and now when I fsck it, I get this:
>
> ** /dev/sd1a
> BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
> USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE
> SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8).
>
> I tried -b16 (suggested in FSCK), but that didn't work either.
> I have two other machines with Barracuda's on them that are working.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
> Sean
> --
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On the system with the bad disk type as root:
/etc/disk /dev/rsd?a ? stand for your logical drive number
at disk prompt type "scan" and you will get this kind of result:
root@gecko60> disk /dev/rsd1a
disk name: FUJITSU M2624S-512
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
Disk utility
disk> scan
Backup superblocks at:
8 16 5680 11344 17008 22672 28336 34000 39664 45328 50992 56656 62320
etc...
Hope that helps
Fabien
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 4 Oct 94 09:07:14 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>The amount of VRAM has nothing to do with speed.
Wrong. E.g., the WINNER 2000Pro benchmarks at 1.45 NXFactor in 16 bit
and at 1.76 in 32 bit color depth. The reason is the internal color
representation: whereas Nextstep's 8888 format in 32bit mode is similar
to the graphics card representation, but 4444 in 16bit has to be converted
into 555 or 565. I don't know if I understood these internals all correctly,
but quite a number of folks have reported noticable differences in graphics
performance between true color and 16 bit. And for true color in 1024x768
or higher resolution, you need 4 MB VRAM.
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 4 Oct 94 09:13:53 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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References: <griffon.317.000A0607@unixg.ubc.ca> <36pde6$hdr@anshar.shadow.net>
jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>I'm actually getting higher NXBench numbers in 32-bit color than in 16-bit,
That's what I wanted to explain. :-)
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From: "G. Matthew Webster" <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM PCI with NS?
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I have the above board. I have heard of problems with the NeXT S3964
driver. I have only heard it from people with #9 GXE 64 Pro, not the
Diamond Stealth 64. I would like to hear from anyone who has this card
working. I am interested in PCI bus only. For what it's worth I have an
Intel Premier Pentium 60 MHz AMIBIOS ver 1.00.08.AF1. I will be using
the Talus driver for the NCR Fast/Wide card, too. Thanks.
Matt Webster
From: ken@nika.com (Ken Pelletier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ADB retrofit for non-ADB Turbo station?
Date: 4 Oct 1994 12:48:45 GMT
Organization: NiKA Software
Message-ID: <36rivd$d1g@News1.mcs.com>
Unless I'm hallucinating, I remember someone once mentioning that some of the Turbo NeXTstations could be retrofitted to work with the ADB keyboard and mouse.
I've been using an ADB keyboard at work for a while now, and I'm hooked. I'd like to retrofit my non-ADB Turbo NeXTstation Color at home with ADB.
Can anyone say definitively whether this is possible, and if so, what's involved?
- Ken (ken@nika.com)
Ken Pelletier
NiKA Software
Chicago, IL
From: skrbec@fox.cig.mot.com (Brad Skrbec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT laser printer to Intel?
Date: 3 Oct 94 21:44:46 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group
Message-ID: <skrbec.781220686@fox>
I'm sure that this question has been asked and answered many
times, but I can't seem to find it in the FAQ...
Is it possible to connect the NeXT laser printer to an intel
machine? I looked around for some specifics on the NeXT printer
port, but found very little. If its possible, what's involved?
Thanks in advance,
Brad
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From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Has anyone heard of The Deanox Group?
Date: 2 Oct 1994 19:06:02 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone has heard of The Deanox Group? I have heard that they are
a company in Utah that specializes in building NS/FIP systems using the DECpc.
Please post if you have any comments and/or know how to get in contact (phone number,
address, or email) with this company.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
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From: dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Subject: Re: 3D Graphics under NS/HP
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 16:12:58 GMT
References: <36f36j$t4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <1994Oct4.003113.23973@news.media.mit.edu>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Cupertino, CA
In article <1994Oct4.003113.23973@news.media.mit.edu>, wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
|> In article <36f36j$t4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> yut@blue.ecn.purdue.edu (Greg Yut) writes:
|> >>I had the opportunity to look at some HP workstations today,
|> >>but none were running NS. An attractive configuration might be
|> >>the 715/80 with the HCRX-24Z graphics subsystem. The subsystem
|> >>has 12/12 bit double buffering and a 24-bit Z buffer.
|> >>
|> >>Would NS/HP take full advantage of the double buffering and Z-buffer?
|> >>
|>
|> No, it's silly to buy a 715 at all, actually, unless you're getting
|> a 99MHz one and you really need that 20% boost.
Just being pedantic... The 715/100 runs at a true 100MHz. You get an extra
1% performance over that 735...
--
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From: c3ar@dent.uchicago.edu (Walter C3arlip)
Subject: Disk Drive & CD Rom help wanted for slab
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.173015.25380@midway.uchicago.edu>
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I'm writing a grant to get a largish (1-2gig) disk drive and a CDRom
drive for our black and white Next Slab. I want to be sure that the
drive I buy is compatible! (I particularly want the CD-Rom drive for
delivering new system software.)
Can one use any scsi drive with a next, e.g., the drives from APS
(usually targeted at Macintosh owners)?
Can one use any scsi CD-Rom drive?
I would love to hear any recommendations!
Thanks very much.
--Walter
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From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:21:09 GMT
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In article <36qksh$r9h@mark.ucdavis.edu> jantoniou@ucdavis.edu writes:
> In <36p899$gkh@blkbox.blkbox.COM>, talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
writes:
>
> As for a different motherboard, what (genuine request
> for suggestion alert) board might you suggest? I can
> ditch a VLB board permanently because I am seriously
> considering getting the ATI Mach64 Pro Turbo PCI (and,
> yes, I would (ahem) use Talus drivers :) ). I am leaning
> towards A.I.R.'s EISA/PCI combo board. Not cheap, but
> I have heard a number of a good things about A.I.R.'s
> product line. It has an integrated Adaptec 2940W on it,
> but I'm sure that can be disabled. In general, what
> chipset and BIOS might do the best for me?
At lot of us have had very good luck with the Intel "Plato" boards which
use the Neptune chipset. They are PCI/ISA and they are the fastest ones
we've tested to date. Unless you really _need_ EISA, this would be my
first choice. I don't know anyone who's tested the A.I.R. board that you
mentioned, but you should be aware that there is no 3.2 driver for the
2940W. While there is one coming in 3.3, you should be aware that you're
not going to be able to use your machine in the meantime and I don't
believe that you can successfully disable it (and still still be able to
run the NCR). You can try it, but I think you're asking for more
frustration.
The ATI Mach 64 is a good choice, as is the Soundblaster 16.
We don't normally do this, but if you can't find a Plato board locally we
can probably get you one for around $450 (I'd have to check on the exact
price)
> Sorry that I, one, haven't had the time to reconstruct NS
> on my system, two, haven't had the time to call Talus, and,
> lastly, have not been able to unearth the material Talus
> sent to me with the driver (I've moved since then) and thus
> do not have the phone number for Talus.
New Talus Number: 713-578-1434
> Let's resolve this little problem, shall we?
>
> Well, I doubt you'll be happy exactly, but thanks for letting
> me know. Then again, perhaps you would be happy for
> getting me off your back :-)
We'll be happy if we can help you get a system working properly :-))
> For the record, I'll state that, while I appear to have a definite
> problem with NS, drivers, and/or hardware, I do NOT have a
> problem with Talus. I can see how I left far too much room
> for that to be misunderstood. Personally, I love NeXTStep and
> think it's a vastly superior interface to anything I've run across
> on PCs and workstations, with SGI's "Magic" interface being a
> possible exception. I am glad, and thankful, that Talus is
> doing work on a much-underappreciated operating system like
> NeXTStep. Not many developers are taking that risk along with
> them. I realize I may have implied otherwise about Talus. For
> that I am, in fact, sorry.
> Anyway, I do appreciate the suggestions I have received and I will
> give NS and the Talus drivers another try on my system.
>
If it makes you feel any better, I had serious trouble trying to configure
the my new system at home last night. (Most stupid human errors)
Please don't hesitate to ask for more recommendations.
Steve Sarich
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From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.174753.14996@adobe.com>
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References: <next2.781261634@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:47:53 GMT
In article <next2.781261634@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>
>>The amount of VRAM has nothing to do with speed.
>
>Wrong. E.g., the WINNER 2000Pro benchmarks at 1.45 NXFactor in 16 bit
>and at 1.76 in 32 bit color depth. The reason is the internal color
>representation: whereas Nextstep's 8888 format in 32bit mode is similar
>to the graphics card representation, but 4444 in 16bit has to be converted
>into 555 or 565. I don't know if I understood these internals all correctly,
>but quite a number of folks have reported noticable differences in graphics
>performance between true color and 16 bit. And for true color in 1024x768
>or higher resolution, you need 4 MB VRAM.
For a given video mode the amount of VRAM on a card tends to have no impact on
the speed of the card when used with NEXTSTEP. When you compare different
modes, some of which are only attainable with more VRAM, you will tend to see
performance differences. This has to do with the different modes, not the
amount of VRAM. For instance, you can run in 32 bpp mode on a 2MB board at
800x600.
A number of people have commented on cards that actually do 32 bpp modes faster
than 16 bpp modes. There are several factors that can contribute to this
happening. First, as mentioned above, it may turn out that the internal
representation used by the window server for 32 bpp modes maps directly to that
used by the hardware. This is (most) often not the case for 16 bpp modes.
Second, when running in 16 bpp mode DPS dithers colors. This means that it is
often drawing with a "tile" of pixels rather than with just one pixel value. In
32 bpp modes we never dither and therefore all drawing of a given color is done
with a single pixel value. This reduces the amount of work performed in the
inner loops of the low level rendering code. There is basically no effect on
the higher level code. 8 bpp modes dither quite frequently because of the tiny
palette. A third factor is the actual amount of data you have to move around.
In this area 32 bpp modes come out behind.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
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From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.173353.28989@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 17:33:53 GMT
Well, I don't know how many of you are up to date on my hardware woes.
Basically, I had cured them all, but was still dissapointed with by disk
write performance. I talked a bit with a friend of mine a while ago
(thanks Bob) who mentioned that I should try fiddling with the disk
initialization procedure.
For the record, I have a Micropolis 4110 1.0gig SCSI-II drive, and a
NCR based PCI SCSI-II controller, using a Talus driver.
I was getting a blazingly fast write benchmark of 465kb/sec. Sarcasm
intended.
So, I re-built the disk, but initialized it like this:
(disk is sd1, and I have it fdisked to two partitions, one for DOS)
disk -i /dev/rsd1h
newfs -n -v -r 5400 /dev/rsd1a
Most SCSI-II disks seem to be 5400 RPM disks. "disk" doesn't query for
rotational speed, although this is simple to do. It's a bug, I figure.
Anyway, the second call directly to newfs re-initializes the filesystem
with a layout that's optimal for a 5400 RPM disk. After doing this, and
re-installing NEXTSTEP I now have a write performance benchmark of 1311kb/sec,
which is nearly 3 times faster.
So, if you're setting up NEXTSTEP, and have a fast disk, you might want
to try this. I'd be interested in hearing if other people experience
such a significant improvement. Normally, at this part of my posting,
I'd flame NeXT for releasing a piece of cruddy software, but I'll hold
up and see if I'm not experiencing an anomaly :-).
Thanks to Bob Brown for the suggestion to try changing the rotational
speed parameter.
- db
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From: Brian Dear <70034.1062@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXTSTEP on Intel Server machines
Date: 4 Oct 1994 18:21:10 GMT
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Message-ID: <36s6en$ar4$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
Anyone out there using NEXTSTEP on a Compaq ProLiant server, or a
Dell PowerEdge server machine?
From: jeramy@jeramy.en.open.de (Martin Roggon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DEC DSP 3053 L auf 1024 Byte ?!?
Date: 4 Oct 1994 18:09:15 GMT
Organization: Jeramys News - System
Message-ID: <36s5ob$2fi@jeramy.en.open.de>
Hallo,
hat hier schon jemand Erfahrungen mit dem
Hochformatieren der im Subject genannten Platte
auf 1024 Byte/Sektor statt der ueblichen 512 ?!?
Wenn ja, welche ?
Funktioniert es ?
Wieviel zusaetzlichen Speicherplatz kann man
dabei gewinnen ?
Bin fuer jede Antwort dankbar.
Gruss .... mArTiN
Mail : jeramy@jeramy.en.open.de
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From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.181015.2165@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 18:10:15 GMT
In article <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com> tdave@raivac.com writes:
> I have just tried the new SoundBlaster beta driver from NeXT (available
> from ftp.next.com) and am still confused. The documentation is ambiguous
> as to whether the driver will work with an ISA card. When installed the
> driver I did get some sound but it was more like a dying tasmanian devil
> than what I had selected. Anybody else with similar experiences?
>
Remember that the SoundBlaster driver only supports the SB16 card. There
are various SB cards that work on the ISA bus.
I've never been able to get the freeware SB driver to work on my system,
but the NeXT version worked flawlessly for me. I'm very happy with it.
(Good job NeXT).
I have a SB16 card, on IRQ 7.
- darcy
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From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 4 Oct 1994 09:45:07 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
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References: <griffon.317.000A0607@unixg.ubc.ca> <36pde6$hdr@anshar.shadow.net> <next2.781261634@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Markus Wenzel (next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
: >The amount of VRAM has nothing to do with speed.
: Wrong. E.g., the WINNER 2000Pro benchmarks at 1.45 NXFactor in 16 bit
: and at 1.76 in 32 bit color depth. The reason is the internal color
: representation: whereas Nextstep's 8888 format in 32bit mode is similar
: to the graphics card representation, but 4444 in 16bit has to be converted
: into 555 or 565. I don't know if I understood these internals all correctly,
: but quite a number of folks have reported noticable differences in graphics
: performance between true color and 16 bit. And for true color in 1024x768
: or higher resolution, you need 4 MB VRAM.i
I think this is backwards.
The Window Server runs in either 444 or 888 mode, depending on the video
settings.
If a video card runs in 444 mode, the Window Server doesn't have to convert
information.
If a video card runs in 555 mode, the Window Server does have to convert
information, causing a 10-15% performance hit.
The difference between 444 and 555 modes should, I believe, cause
different benchmarks between the #9 GXE64 Pro and the Diamond Stealth 64.
The #9 runs in 444 mode, and the Stealth 64 in 555 mode. If my memory serves
me correctly, the #9 is 10-15% faster than the Diamond Stealth 64.
...........................kris
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From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: Diamond Steatlh 64
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.181421.9776@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <KARTHY.94Oct3231743@dannug.dannug.dk>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 18:14:21 GMT
Here's a little bit of information for the people who were interested in the
Diamond Stealth 64. I am using a Diamond Stealth 64/PCI with 4MB VRAM in an
Intel P90 system (using the Intel Premiere PCI/II motherboard). I have had no
problems with it in both NEXTSTEP and DOS/Windows. As far as the resolutions
and refresh rates go in NEXTSTEP, the board/driver combo will do
1600x1200/16-bit(555) @60Hz NI. It will do 1280x1024/16-bit(555) @75Hz NI and
1154x900/24-bit(888) @75Hz (not sure about the exact pixel count for this last
resolution). These are the top resolutions/pixle depths/refresh rates that the
board will do with the NEXTSTEP driver. For other combinations, check out the
NeXTanswers README document for the driver.
As for DOS/Windows support, the newest Windows drivers from Diamond (v1.20)
allow you to change resolutions and refresh rates without rebooting windows and
provide for a larger virtual desktop.
Due to the lack of a 444 video mode supported by this card, NEXTSTEP video
performance is a little bit slower than a comparable #9GXE64-PRO, but I'm very
pleased with mine and it should be a bit cheaper than the #9.
Good luck...
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Disk Drive & CD Rom help wanted for slab
Date: 4 Oct 1994 18:57:23 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36s8ij$jdm@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Oct4.173015.25380@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1994Oct4.173015.25380@midway.uchicago.edu>
c3ar@dent.uchicago.edu (Walter C3arlip) writes:
> Can one use any scsi drive with a next
Almost any SCSI drive will work with NextStep Intel or NextStep Motorolla,
but there are a few exceptions. For example, a Quantum PD1800s will not
work with NextStep Motorolla (with the firmware version that Quantum was
selling two months ago) but will work with Intel. There is a 95% chance
that any SCSI drive you buy will work, but make sure your drive vendor has
a 30 day return policy just in case.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Logitec Mouse problem
Date: 4 Oct 1994 14:34 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4OCT199414344915@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Any of you running NS/I on a Pentium/90 with a Stealth 64 and a Logitec Deluxe
Bus mouse? I have no problems on the NeXT side (fingers crossed); but on
the DOS/Windows side I'm getting a notable number of spurious double-clicks
when I've single clicked. Screen resolution and video driver seem to have no
bearing on the problem. If you've got this setup - or any ideas - I'm open
to suggestions. It's refreshing - sort of - to have a hardware/software
configuration problem on the DOS/Windows side instead of the NS/I side. Still,
I'd like to solve the problem.
Don
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: ken@nika.com (Ken Pelletier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ADB retrofit for non-ADB Turbo station? (Summary)
Date: 5 Oct 1994 00:18:41 GMT
Organization: NiKA Software
Message-ID: <36srd1$ht0@News1.mcs.com>
References: <36rivd$d1g@News1.mcs.com>
In article <36rivd$d1g@News1.mcs.com>
ken@nika.com (Ken Pelletier) writes:
> Unless I'm hallucinating, I remember someone once mentioning that some of the Turbo NeXTstations could be retrofitted to work with the ADB keyboard and mouse.
>
> I've been using an ADB keyboard at work for a while now, and I'm hooked. I'd like to retrofit my non-ADB Turbo NeXTstation Color at home with ADB.
>
> Can anyone say definitively whether this is possible, and if so, what's involved?
>
I got a couple of responses, both confirming that it can be done. It requires the following:
(courtesy of Scott Anguish, originating from Bell Atlantic)
S8100 $109 ADB Keyboard US
S8109 $45 ADB Mouse
S8150 $20 ADB Keyboard Cable
S4104 $125 ADB Soundbox
S1016 $30 Turbo cpu eprom (version 74)
S4022 $76 NeXTstation Color Monitor "Y" Cable (rev# 4536)
Thanks to Darren Smith and Scott Anguish!
- Ken (ken@nika.com)
Ken Pelletier
NiKA Software
Chicago, IL
From: hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: video frame grabber for Intel & NS 3.2 FIP
Date: 5 Oct 1994 00:03:03 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <36sqfn$3dl@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
Can anyone give me a pointer to a video frame
grabber that will work in a PC (EISA, ISA, or VL)
with NS 3.2?
Alternatively, is there a PC frame grabber for which
I might have luck writing a driver?
I want to take NTSC video frames at, say, 10/sec.
and push them into a ring buffer of NXBitmapImageReps
on the fly.
Thanks for any advice. -John
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: DRAM Hidden Refresh & Cache Write Back?
Message-ID: <Cx6Exv.KA0@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 01:34:08 GMT
I had a difficult time installing NextStep on my EISA system, but
found that, once installed, NS was more forgiving with regards to
motherboard settings. Any thoughts on whether or not it is safe to
enable DRAM Hidden Refresh and Cache Write Back? Hidden Refresh
conceptually seems benign because the CPU continues to do work with
cache while DRAM is refreshed. I haven't a clue about Cache Write
Back. Some time ago someone suggested disabling it, but didn't give a
compelling reason why.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: lbeears@coyote.rain.org (Les Beears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSFIP Success! Thanks to Talus
Date: 4 Oct 1994 20:33:47 -0700
Organization: RAIN Network
Message-ID: <36t6qr$qea@coyote.rain.org>
References: <36g7h7$h5k@anshar.shadow.net>
message.txt:
I have the SupraFaxModem 144i and it workd great in my DX2 66 machine.
I am using the PPP software available on the duke ftp site, the last release
seems to work great. I had quit a few problems with the previous version.
Cheers
Les
Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
: After months of tinkering, I finally have a working NSFIP system!!!!
: I owe a great deal of thanks to everyone at Talus Imaging for their help
: (especially Dan). Ah, to see Workspace again after all this time using
: Windows. Subjectively, the Gateway P5-90 feels 10x faster than my old
: NeXTstation Color. The Talus drivers worked flawlessly, and installation
: went smoothly (well, almost).
: Here's the setup:
: Gateway P5-90 (Intel Premiere II/PCI MB)
: 32MB RAM
: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo 4MB (Talus driver)
: NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI (Talus driver)
: Micropolis 4110 1gb Fast SCSI-2 HD
: NEC CDR-510 3x CD-ROM
: Creative Labs SB16
: A few issues left to be resolved:
: 1. The Microsoft Mouse 2.0a (PS/2) is jumping all over the place.
: 2. Getting my HP C1716T 1.3gb optical drive working under NS. All my data
: is backed up on ODs, and I need to get it working.
: 3. SupraFaxModem 288i. NeXT tech support told me internal modems won't
: work - I'd hate to relegate this one to the junk drawer.
: 4. SB16 driver - I haven't tried the NeXT beta driver, but the PD driver
: did not work.
: 5. I desperately need an inexpensive comm app capable of VT100 and
: zmodem. In the meantime, I'm forced to boot DOS from a floppy and run a
: DOS comm program. In the long run, I'll need solid PPP software.
: - Jay
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ergonomic keyboards - Re: ADB retrofit for non-ADB station? (Summary)
Date: 5 Oct 1994 01:14:49 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36tco9$5rp@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <36srd1$ht0@News1.mcs.com>
Ken Pelletier writes
> In article <36rivd$d1g@News1.mcs.com>
> ken@nika.com (Ken Pelletier) writes:
> > Unless I'm hallucinating, I remember someone once mentioning that some of
the Turbo NeXTstations could be retrofitted to work with the ADB keyboard and
mouse.
> >
> > I've been using an ADB keyboard at work for a while now, and I'm hooked.
I'd like to retrofit my non-ADB Turbo NeXTstation Color at home with ADB.
> >
> > Can anyone say definitively whether this is possible, and if so, what's
involved?
> >
>
> I got a couple of responses, both confirming that it can be done. It requires
the following:
>
> (courtesy of Scott Anguish, originating from Bell Atlantic)
>
> S8100 $109 ADB Keyboard US
> S8109 $45 ADB Mouse
> S8150 $20 ADB Keyboard Cable
> S4104 $125 ADB Soundbox
> S1016 $30 Turbo cpu eprom (version 74)
> S4022 $76 NeXTstation Color Monitor "Y" Cable (rev# 4536)
>
> Thanks to Darren Smith and Scott Anguish!
I wanted to add to the above.. or actually, expand on it a bunch.
As some of you know, In the last 6 months or so I have developed some
RSI problems.
I ended up going through the process of upgrading my non-ADB machine
this summer, so that I would be able to use a 'safer' keyboard than the
standard NeXT keyboard.
Warning - changing the ROM in your machine changes your HostId. This can be a
problem if you have software that is locked to a specific hostid. Fortunately,
every company has been very helpful in supplying updated passwords for my
licensed software. Its not a big deal, but PLAN AHEAD.
I opted for an ADB Logitech mouse instead of the standard ADB Next
mouse, largely because I found its shape comfortable, and they can be bought
new without any hassle. I also find the action quite comfortable, and it
tracks about the same as my old mouse did. Thankfully it doesn't have the
STUPID rubber gasket that the old NeXT mice had... it degrades over time.
The Keyboard
------------
After much research, I opted to get the Kinesis Ergonomic keyboard.
Its an odd looking beast, but it feels very comfortable. There are two
separate key wells, that are arranged in pretty much the standard QWERTY
arrangement, with a few small differences.
- The keys are directly above each other, instead of offset like on a
normal keyboard, the wells are sculpted in a manner that makes your fingers
just land in the right spot.
- There is no separate numeric keypad.. there are keys in the right
well that are able to be used as a numeric keypad by hitting one of the
function keys across the top of the keyboard. This can also be effected by a
foot pedal.
If you are left handed, don't worry, you can move ANY keystroke to any
other keystroke on the keyboard. So you can move the keypad (or cursor keys)
to the other hand. This is entirely retained within the keyboard, and has
nothing to to with NEXTSTEP.
- The delete, space, enter, command, volume and brightness keys are all
activated by the thumbs. This takes some getting used to, but it does take the
strain off the pinkies. I immediately remapped the sound and brightness keys,
and moved the command key to the delete key, leaving the backspace key as
delete. I also changed the caps lock key to control.. Having had much use with
the old NeXT keyboard, the rare times I need to do caps lock, control-shift is
natural.
- there are a row of function keys that you can program a sequence of
keystrokes into... again, its entirely in the keyboard, so it is transparent to
NEXTSTEP.
- you can hook up two foot pedals to be used as modifier keys...
although I have not yet done this, I will likely purchase at least one, so I
can use it as an activator for an alternative mapping of the cursor keys.
The keyboard also has two built in wrist supports... there are little
pads that come with the keyboard, you can put them on or not...
Overall, it is very comfortable...
My typing was slower initially, but in that last 4 weeks or so, my
speed is back up to what it was BEFORE the RSI problems started. There are
some keys that are cumbersome for me (the cursor keys for example) but I can
move them to someplace more comfortable over time. I can type for long periods
of time without any pain. Using a normal keyboard does cause pain after even
an hours worth of work...
This is a major improvement. While it might not work for everyone, it
has worked very well for me... I now actually enjoy typing again...
Keyboard Interface
------------------
The keyboard is actually a PS2 keyboard. To use this keyboard with the
ADB Soundbox, you need to get the ADB Adaptor from Kinesis. Its a little box
with the power on/off button on it. You plug the keyboard into it, and it into
the soundbox. The mouse can plug into the adaptor, or directly into the
Soundbox.
This doesn't allow you to use a PC mouse... you need to use an ADB
mouse.
There is also an adaptor for Sun, so maybe when we have NS/Sun, I will
be able to move this keyboard to that platform.
Unfortunately, the current HP NEXTSTEP doesn't support the PS2
keyboards. I hope that a 3.3 upgrade or a future driver will allow this.
Problems
--------
Nothing is perfect.
I have not yet discovered how to do a cold reboot from the keyboard...
I'm sure there is a different sequence for the Intel keyboards... since they
don't have the same layout.... I have not yet asked Kinesis about this.. If my
machine REALLY locks up, I can't just hit the power key to force it to power
off, it doesn't seem to work. So I have to pull the plug. I could probably
put another keyboard in the ADB chain, and try the power key there... That is
however another whole problem......
Other than that small problem, I'm totally happy.
Does it work under NS/Intel? I have no idea.
Kinesis has a 30 day MBG, and they seemed very helpful when I called
and spoke to support before I bought it.
Cost
----
Keyboard was about $395, and another $100 for the ADB adaptor.
You might be able to use other PC keyboards with this ADB adaptor, but
without the ability to remap keys, I'm not sure of the success you would have.
I will probably give it a try if I can pick up one of the new Microsoft
keyboards.
I'd also probably add an external keypad to the setup. It also has the
cursor keys on it.. Unfortunately, Apple Canada has apparently discontinued
their Adjustable keyboard, and Apple US will not allow the mailorder houses in
the US to ship the keyboards to Canada.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: Godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ergo Keyboards
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 00:37:47 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <Godwin.328.00B6B291@unixg.ubc.ca>
Actually one interesting looking keyboards out there is the M$ keyboard...yeah
yeah yeah...I know Microsoft...666 number blah blah blah;-) ...but something
they do have something good once in a while...Anyways..Does anyone tried it
with a NS/FIP yet? I heard there are couple of extra Win95 keys in there...hmm
I wonder....
Godwin
From: nelsonr@mars.eecs.umich.edu (Nelson R. Manohar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplacecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: better, nicer keyboard needed
Date: 5 Oct 1994 07:56:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36tm7d$m34@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Keywords: keyboard next
Hi, I have a NeXTStation TurboColor and use its standard keyboard,
but after
about a year of heavy use, I am starting to develop strong pain in my
finger junctions. It is not getting any better and after a while I
started to
believe that the keyboard is being way to hard on my fingers.
Is there a soft touch keyboard that is compatible with this next? I
will like to use
or try other keyboards. Are there catalogs were I can find these?
thanks
nelson manohar
nelsonr@engin.umich.edu
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 5 Oct 94 09:37:32 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.781349852@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <next2.781261634@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <1994Oct4.174753.14996@adobe.com>
pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
>For a given video mode the amount of VRAM on a card tends to have no impact on
>the speed of the card when used with NEXTSTEP. When you compare different
>modes, some of which are only attainable with more VRAM, you will tend to see
>performance differences. This has to do with the different modes, not the
>amount of VRAM. For instance, you can run in 32 bpp mode on a 2MB board at
>800x600.
Of course I didn't say that the amount of VRAM has a direct effect on the
speed, but for the usual 17" resolutions you need 4 MB VRAM to run them
in fast 32 bit mode. And I assumed that no one really wants to switch back
to 800x600 just for the performance boost of 32 bpp.
Sorry for misunderstanding :-)
--
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// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu (Gary P. Wolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can stations use IDE hard drives?
Date: 4 Oct 1994 21:42:01 GMT
Organization: Boise State University
Message-ID: <36si79$br2@euskadi.idbsu.edu>
Could someone please tell me if there exists an interface of some sort that
will allow an '040 slab to utilize IDE hard drives? If so, could that someone
please tell me the manufacturer and approximate (theoretical) price of this
interface. Thanks,
Gary Wolfe
gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu
--
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Extra Value Meal (TM) you can pick up the latest version of your
favorite Microsoft (TM) product will be the day that civilization is
about to collapse.
From: fabien@free.fdn.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 00:45 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Dead Cube '040
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.214556.22616@free.fdn.o>
References: <36alj6$5cl@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org>
In article <36alj6$5cl@atlas.cs.upei.ca> student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter
Burka) writes:
> Last Friday one of out Black cubes died a sudden and tragic death.
While
> a user was typing away at the keyboard the system suddenly froze. Cmd-~
> caused no response, and we were unable to power down without unplugging
> the machine.
>
> Once it was plugged back in, and the power key pressed, the monitor
powers
> up, the disks spin, but nothing else happens. No cube on the screen,
> nuttin'. At this point, the system is unresponsive to any keypresses
> (cmd-~, power, etc).
>
> I have tried this with a different monitor, same thing. (Note that
there
> is no audible 'ping,' and no keyboard response, so I don't believe it's
> the video circuitry. Besides, it doesn't work with the NeXTdimension
board
> in, either.)
>
> I've swapped the BIOS EPROM with the chip from a slab, no difference.
>
> I've swapped the batteries, same thing.
>
> I've pulled all the memory and tried it in different combinations, no
> improvement.
>
> I've swapped boards with another machine. The new one works in the
broken
> box, but not the other way around.
>
> I've cleaned the contacts, still nothing.
>
> I don't want to risk damaging a CPU by swapping them, but if someone can
> confirm that the 68040 is my problem I'll give it a shot.
>
> What else should I try? Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Peter
Try to boot with only 4 megs (4 sims near the board edge) and swap them 4
by 4 in order to isolate maybe a faulty simm.
Hope that helps.
Fabien
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 00:55 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: DEC RZ55 disk on next cube
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.215550.22742@free.fdn.o>
References: <36c6te$mru@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu>
Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org>
In article <36c6te$mru@cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu> map+@CS.CMU.EDU (Mark
Puskar) writes:
> Has anyone been able to get a DEC RZ55 disk to work
> on a next cube? /etc/disk will format the disk but
> the init command fails with "incomplete data transfer"
> messages.
>
> The RZ55 block size is set to 512. I've made an
> entry in /etc/disktab with sector size of 512 and
> tried to label and init the disk without success.
>
> I've tried both 2.0 and 2.1 versions of the operating system.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Mark Puskar
>
Sector size are always 1024 bytes in disktab regardless of physical sector
size (512 or 1024) and partition block count is also counted in 1024 bytes
increment.
You should change the sector size to 1024 and divide by 2 the total disk
sector count minus 160 blocks and assign a front porch size of 160 block.
The front porch is needed for the disk label and boot sectors.
Hope that helps
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 01:07 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: DEC RZ55 disk on next cube
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.220703.22814@free.fdn.o>
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In article <1994Oct3.215550.22742@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org
(Fabien Roy) writes:
> Sector size are always 1024 bytes in disktab regardless of physical
sector
> size (512 or 1024) and partition block count is also counted in 1024
bytes
> increment.
> You should change the sector size to 1024 and divide by 2 the total disk
> sector count minus 160 blocks and assign a front porch size of 160
block.
> The front porch is needed for the disk label and boot sectors.
>
> Hope that helps
>
I forgot to say that you have to get a hand on the rz55 scsi manual to
modify a modeselect page of the drive to change the way disconnection are
handled.
sdformat could help you to change that modeselect page.
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/util/sdformat_1.2.MIH.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/util/sdformat_1.2.MIH.README
Hope that helps
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 01:28 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Segate Barracuda problems
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.222855.22956@free.fdn.o>
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In comp.sys.next.hardware article
<1994Sep29.094217.35009@hulaw1.harvard.edu> you wrote:
> Like an idiot, I tried to change the name of my external Barracuda
> ST12550N using builddisk. It came back with an error that it could
> not format the drive, and now when I fsck it, I get this:
>
> ** /dev/sd1a
> BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
> USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE
> SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8).
>
> I tried -b16 (suggested in FSCK), but that didn't work either.
> I have two other machines with Barracuda's on them that are working.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
> Sean
> --
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On the system with the bad disk type as root:
/etc/disk /dev/rsd?a ? stand for your logical drive number
at disk prompt type "scan" and you will get this kind of result:
root@gecko60> disk /dev/rsd1a
disk name: FUJITSU M2624S-512
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
Disk utility
disk> scan
Backup superblocks at:
8 16 5680 11344 17008 22672 28336 34000 39664 45328 50992 56656 62320
etc...
Hope that helps
Fabien
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From: samurai@hasc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 21:10 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.181015.2165@sifon.cc.mc>
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In article <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com> tdave@raivac.com writes:
> I have just tried the new SoundBlaster beta driver from NeXT (available
> from ftp.next.com) and am still confused. The documentation is ambiguous
> as to whether the driver will work with an ISA card. When installed the
> driver I did get some sound but it was more like a dying tasmanian devil
> than what I had selected. Anybody else with similar experiences?
>
Remember that the SoundBlaster driver only supports the SB16 card. There
are various SB cards that work on the ISA bus.
I've never been able to get the freeware SB driver to work on my system,
but the NeXT version worked flawlessly for me. I'm very happy with it.
(Good job NeXT).
I have a SB16 card, on IRQ 7.
- darcy
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From: wave@media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 03:31 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: 3D Graphics under NS/HP
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.003113.23973@news.media>
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In article <36f36j$t4@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> yut@blue.ecn.purdue.edu (Greg Yut) writes:
>>I had the opportunity to look at some HP workstations today,
>>but none were running NS. An attractive configuration might be
>>the 715/80 with the HCRX-24Z graphics subsystem. The subsystem
>>has 12/12 bit double buffering and a 24-bit Z buffer.
>>
>>Would NS/HP take full advantage of the double buffering and Z-buffer?
>>
No, it's silly to buy a 715 at all, actually, unless you're getting
a 99MHz one and you really need that 20% boost. The 712/80 is an awesome
deal, especially compared to the 715. We just got a 712/80 running
NS here, and while it's not as fast as my 735, it kicks its ass all over
the place with regard to bang for the buck.
If you're getting the 715 instead of the 712 because you think you
really need 24 bits of color and you don't believe the hype on the
Color Recovery Technology on the 712; at least give it a spin - I
found it to be quite astonishing (and would be perfectly acceptable
for my work, for example).
I also find the speed of either of the HPs quite reasonable compared
to any SGI up to (and not including) a Reality Engine. My 735 vs. my
Indigo^2 Extreme shows, for the kind of work I do (lots of curved
surfaces), the 735 running NS's qrman is faster than equivalent
software on the SGI running atop the GL on top of the Extreme board.
Your mileage may certainly vary, but in my case, I'm starving the
graphics pipeline with tesselation, so the HP's superior CPU wins.
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From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 01 Oct 94 22:41 GMT+0300
Subject: Stealth and Sony question
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Howdy. I've got a Stealth 64bit video card and a Sony Triniton 17se
monitor. I can run NS at 1152x864 at 60Hz (which is visually ok) but
I can not run that resolution at 75Hz. At 75Hz, I notice the following:
All the scroller background areas (i.e. the "channel" or depressed
area) that are displayed in the *upper half*
of the Sony monitor have a distortion that gives
one the impression of "micro bubbles" rising
towards the top of the monitor. In these same areas I
can see a shadow of the arrow-pointer or the highlighted
"box" when a browser item is selected immediately to the left
of the scroller channel.
In non-background and non-scroller "channel" areas (say in the login
panel or in a icon) randomly scattered black pixels
appear with a single row of "bubbles" eminating upward from
them. Again, this occurs only in the upper half of the
monitor. Moving the "bubbling" spot down below that half way
line makes the bubbling (and the black pixel) go away. These
black pixels are not part of the panel or icon image.
In other areas (say the bottom of the login panel) I will see
arcs of scattered "white" pixels.
In the bottom half of the monitor, I have not observed any distortions
at 75Hz.
I have 4MB on the Stealth (PCI) board.
I'd appreciate any advice on why this phenomenon is occuring. 60Hz looks
o.k. to me; but I understand that some folks see "quivering", etc, at that
frequency; so I'd prefer to run things at 75Hz.
Any ideas? Anyone else running with similar hardware?
Thanks.
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: root@osd.glas.apc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Oct 94 14:42 GMT+0300
Subject: Sorry, ignore this, just a test
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test
From: root@osd.glas.apc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Oct 94 15:57 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Source for HP 712 machines?
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.125729.981@osd.glas.apc>
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In article <335mvu$8bv@daffy.ldp.com> rolfe@berkshire.ldp.com
writes:
> Can someone point me to a source for the HP 712 boxes? My
> company can probably qualify for a developer discount.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
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From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Oct 94 11:55 GMT+0300
Subject: Printer cable for NeXT Cube.
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Does anyone know the pin connections for the printer cable for a NeXT
cube and a NeXT laser printer, I know that both ends of the cable are
9 pin males but need to know the actual connections.
Cheers Rupert.
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
URL : http://ilc.ecs.soton.ac.uk/welcome.html
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Oct 94 19:27 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: adding memory to a Nextstation
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In article <36p7gk$6vr@post.its.mcw.edu>,
Robert Morris <rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu> wrote:
>I need some additional memory for my nextstation '040. Any recommendations?
>Do I need to send the machine in or can I open it myself? Any caveats?
>Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
>--
Call Chip Merchant in San Diego - they have a 800 number, call 8005551212
for the actual number. I bought 4 - 4meg SIMMS a while back (bringing
my machine up to 20meg). Here at OSU they did it while I waited, and
they are a NeXT service point.
Anyone with an allen-type wrench and properly grounded can do the work.
A decent computer repair shop shouldn't have a problem with it- and
you may get some curious looks and questions about the black pizza box.
Buy as much RAM as you can...
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From: griffon@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Oct 94 22:10 GMT+0300
Subject: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much o
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Subject: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Okay...
Now I know I should get a Intel Motherboard PCI bux only...Some people seems
to have alot of problems with PCI/VL combos...No to the vid cards...Does 4MB
on a Vid card actually make such a big difference? I know u need 2 MB for
32bit color is that good enuff....performance wise? Because 2MB Vram is pretty
expensive...so....
Thanks fot the info...I am considering a ATI Xpression and or a #9 card...any
suggestion comments? and one more thing...How much is a talus driver?
Griff
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 12:07 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much o
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Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>The amount of VRAM has nothing to do with speed.
Wrong. E.g., the WINNER 2000Pro benchmarks at 1.45 NXFactor in 16 bit
and at 1.76 in 32 bit color depth. The reason is the internal color
representation: whereas Nextstep's 8888 format in 32bit mode is similar
to the graphics card representation, but 4444 in 16bit has to be converted
into 555 or 565. I don't know if I understood these internals all correctly,
but quite a number of folks have reported noticable differences in graphics
performance between true color and 16 bit. And for true color in 1024x768
or higher resolution, you need 4 MB VRAM.
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From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 12:13 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much o
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Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>I'm actually getting higher NXBench numbers in 32-bit color than in 16-bit,
That's what I wanted to explain. :-)
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From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Oct 94 21:35 GMT+0300
Subject: JCIS
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.183508.26322@iitmax.iit>
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Hello,
I am getting close to buying one or two Intel systems to run
NEXTSTEP. I just received a flier from JCis which has
a nice selection of NEXTSTEP hardware, Talus drivers, among other things.
They have good prices, and I'm wondering if anyone can comment on
their machines, service, and value.
How do they compare to eCesys? Any comments are appreciated.
Thanks
Chris Conley
Chicago
From: karthy@dannug.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 01:17 GMT+0300
Subject: DiamondSteatlh 64
Message-ID: <KARTHY.94Oct3231743@dannug.dannu>
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If you are using DiamondStealth 64 VRAM PCI boards with NSFIP, could
you please e-mail me at what resolution/refresh rate, amount of VRAM,
monitor and the system config in general.
Thx. Geert B. Clemmensen
Please reply to gclem@dannug.dk
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From: sargent@black_duomo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 01:28 GMT+0300
Subject: Can NEXTSTEP support more than 256M
Message-ID: <1994Oct3.222853.28177@il.us.swis>
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Subject: Can NEXTSTEP support more than 256Meg RAM?
Is there a limit to the maximum physical RAM NeXTSTEP can support?
I heard a rumor it was 256Mbytes.
Thanks -
- Jeff
sargent@il.us.swissbank.com
From: gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 01:38 GMT+0300
Subject: Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM PCI with NS
Message-ID: <1721509758@Pine.SUN.3.90.941003183603.10162>
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Subject: Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM PCI with NS?
I have the above board. I have heard of problems with the NeXT S3964
driver. I have only heard it from people with #9 GXE 64 Pro, not the
Diamond Stealth 64. I would like to hear from anyone who has this card
working. I am interested in PCI bus only. For what it's worth I have an
Intel Premier Pentium 60 MHz AMIBIOS ver 1.00.08.AF1. I will be using
the Talus driver for the NCR Fast/Wide card, too. Thanks.
Matt Webster
From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 02 Oct 94 22:06 GMT+0300
Subject: Has anyone heard of The Deanox Grou
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Subject: Has anyone heard of The Deanox Group?
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone has heard of The Deanox Group? I have heard that they are
a company in Utah that specializes in building NS/FIP systems using the DECpc.
Please post if you have any comments and/or know how to get in contact (phone number,
address, or email) with this company.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
From: samurai@hasc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 20:33 GMT+0300
Subject: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I w
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Subject: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Well, I don't know how many of you are up to date on my hardware woes.
Basically, I had cured them all, but was still dissapointed with by disk
write performance. I talked a bit with a friend of mine a while ago
(thanks Bob) who mentioned that I should try fiddling with the disk
initialization procedure.
For the record, I have a Micropolis 4110 1.0gig SCSI-II drive, and a
NCR based PCI SCSI-II controller, using a Talus driver.
I was getting a blazingly fast write benchmark of 465kb/sec. Sarcasm
intended.
So, I re-built the disk, but initialized it like this:
(disk is sd1, and I have it fdisked to two partitions, one for DOS)
disk -i /dev/rsd1h
newfs -n -v -r 5400 /dev/rsd1a
Most SCSI-II disks seem to be 5400 RPM disks. "disk" doesn't query for
rotational speed, although this is simple to do. It's a bug, I figure.
Anyway, the second call directly to newfs re-initializes the filesystem
with a layout that's optimal for a 5400 RPM disk. After doing this, and
re-installing NEXTSTEP I now have a write performance benchmark of 1311kb/sec,
which is nearly 3 times faster.
So, if you're setting up NEXTSTEP, and have a fast disk, you might want
to try this. I'd be interested in hearing if other people experience
such a significant improvement. Normally, at this part of my posting,
I'd flame NeXT for releasing a piece of cruddy software, but I'll hold
up and see if I'm not experiencing an anomaly :-).
Thanks to Bob Brown for the suggestion to try changing the rotational
speed parameter.
- db
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"unrequested fission surplus." -- M. Burns -- It's plainer than a Bulgarian
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Vacant Lot -- Rhode Island? They're *never* in contention!!! -- Kramer --
From: 70034.1062@CompuServe.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 21:21 GMT+0300
Subject: NEXTSTEP on Intel Server machines
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Anyone out there using NEXTSTEP on a Compaq ProLiant server, or a
Dell PowerEdge server machine?
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Oct 94 21:14 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Diamond Steatlh 64
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.181421.9776@il.us.swiss>
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Here's a little bit of information for the people who were interested in the
Diamond Stealth 64. I am using a Diamond Stealth 64/PCI with 4MB VRAM in an
Intel P90 system (using the Intel Premiere PCI/II motherboard). I have had no
problems with it in both NEXTSTEP and DOS/Windows. As far as the resolutions
and refresh rates go in NEXTSTEP, the board/driver combo will do
1600x1200/16-bit(555) @60Hz NI. It will do 1280x1024/16-bit(555) @75Hz NI and
1154x900/24-bit(888) @75Hz (not sure about the exact pixel count for this last
resolution). These are the top resolutions/pixle depths/refresh rates that the
board will do with the NEXTSTEP driver. For other combinations, check out the
NeXTanswers README document for the driver.
As for DOS/Windows support, the newest Windows drivers from Diamond (v1.20)
allow you to change resolutions and refresh rates without rebooting windows and
provide for a larger virtual desktop.
Due to the lack of a 444 video mode supported by this card, NEXTSTEP video
performance is a little bit slower than a comparable #9GXE64-PRO, but I'm very
pleased with mine and it should be a bit cheaper than the #9.
Good luck...
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From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 05 Oct 94 00:34 GMT+0300
Subject: Logitec Mouse problem
Message-ID: <4OCT199414344915@violet.ccit.ari>
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Any of you running NS/I on a Pentium/90 with a Stealth 64 and a Logitec Deluxe
Bus mouse? I have no problems on the NeXT side (fingers crossed); but on
the DOS/Windows side I'm getting a notable number of spurious double-clicks
when I've single clicked. Screen resolution and video driver seem to have no
bearing on the problem. If you've got this setup - or any ideas - I'm open
to suggestions. It's refreshing - sort of - to have a hardware/software
configuration problem on the DOS/Windows side instead of the NS/I side. Still,
I'd like to solve the problem.
Don
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: zweimuel@fcggsg20 (Zweimueller Karl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ? IBM-0662S12 (1GB-harddisk) as bootdrive on Black HW?
Date: 5 Oct 1994 11:47:26 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <36u3oe$13m@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
Keywords: IBM harddisk boot 0662
Is it possible to use the IBM drive 0662S12 as bootdrive on a black NS.
The drive works fine as second drive, but won't boot.
As I know the synchronous transfer is the problem. With Mode-Select-Parametrs
on page 0 the DSN (Dissable Synchronous Transfer) can be changed. But I don't
know the number the Byte to change and to which value.
If anyone has the drive running as bootdrive and could send me the results
of a Mode-Sense-Command (is part of the scsitools) or has a detailed
description of the Mode-Select-Options of the drive I could change the
parametrs or is there another problem?
Thanks in advance-- Charly
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From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody using miroCrystal 40SV or WINNER 2000PRO?
Date: 5 Oct 1994 13:33:45 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Distribution: world
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I would greatly appreciate any comments regarding the miroCrystal 40SV or the
WINNER 2000PRO. Please include any information regarding RAMDAC, speed in NEXTSTEP,
DOS, or Windows environments, refresh rates, and resolutions. I am currently
considering a ATI Turbo 64bit card and if there are any cards that are beter I would
like to know.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: horst@il.us.swissbank.com (Ted Horst)
Subject: Setting up a boot drive
Message-ID: <1994Oct5.132402.20241@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: IBM Alleycat boot drive NeXT NeXTstation
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:24:02 GMT
Hi,
I just ordered an IBM Alleycat 0664-M1H 2GB drive to replace the dead
drive in my NeXTstation color. I have been watching this newsgroup to try
and get pointers on how to properly set up and install this drive, and I
have some questions.
If I were to just connect the drive and a CD-ROM drive with NEXTSTEP 3.2
on it and boot off of the floppy that comes with the CD, would the disk be
initialized with the correct parameters ? (eg. rpm=5400).
Is it possible to install NEXTSTEP from the CD without reinitializing the
disk ?
If I need to use a disktab, where would I put it ? (on the floppy ?)
I have sdformat, but it was not clear to me how to use it to set things
other than the block size (disconnect/reconnect on demand, asynch
transfer, parity, ???
Does Builddisk help with any of this ?
I am really nervous about this, and I would be grateful for any info that
anyone has.
Thanks very much,
Ted Horst <horst@il.us.swissbank.com>
(opinions are mine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mtaylor@alias.com (Michael Taylor)
Subject: Problems with new SoundBlaster16 beta driver
Message-ID: <1994Oct5.133044.18449@alias.com>
Keywords: SoundBlaster16
Sender: news@alias.com (News Owner)
Organization: Alias Research Inc., Toronto ON Canada
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:30:44 GMT
I have attempted to install the SoundBlaster16 Beta driver and
have had several problems. I was wondering if anyone had any
similar problems
I have:
60mhz Pentium with an Intel Motherboard (Vesa)
2 I/O cards (Serial Irq's: 3, 4, 12, 13 Parallel: 5, 7)
Adaptec 1542cf (Irq 11, DMA 5, address: 330)
Diamond Viper VLB (can't remeber Irq)
Sound Blaster 16 (irq 5, DMA's 1 & 5, address 220, midi port address 300)
The only conflict is the parallel port at Irq 5, which shouldn't matter
(I don't have it set up under NEXTSTEP, and Parallel Ports don't use
Irq's).
When I made my first attempt, I had the sb16's high DMA channel set to
6, and my Adaptec 1542cf set to DMA channel 5. I managed to get the
Sound Blaster to make a small sound under NEXTSTEP before it caused
some sort of kernel panic.
Then I removed the Gravis Ultrasound that I also had in the machine at the
time, and rearranged my hardware so that the SB16 could have most of it's
default settings. I still got crashes. For some reason even deleting the
instance table for the SB16 and rebooting didn't stop the crashes. It
wasn't until I erased the whole driver that my machine went back to normal.
I then re-installed the driver from scratch. This time I got it to boot
without crashing, but I couldn't get it to make any sound whatsoever.
I had tested the card under DOS with the diagnose.exe program, and it
works well.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
--
Mike Taylor I would rather be alive in a box than dead in a box, because
mtaylor@alias.com if you are alive in a box you can say `At least I'm not dead'
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Solution to mouse <double click> problem
Date: 5 Oct 1994 08:41 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <5OCT199408413996@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. I've found the source of the problem I referred to in an earlier
post regarding a P90/Stealth64/Logitec configuration. The problem
was that the config.sys driver for the sound card set up the game port
(which I don't use) necessarily invoking IRQ5 which happens to be the IRQ
used by the mouse.
Don
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Disk Drive & CD Rom help wanted for slab
Message-ID: <Cx7DCp.M5@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <36s8ij$jdm@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:55:36 GMT
In article <36s8ij$jdm@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
> In article <1994Oct4.173015.25380@midway.uchicago.edu>
> c3ar@dent.uchicago.edu (Walter C3arlip) writes:
>
> > Can one use any scsi drive with a next
>
> Almost any SCSI drive will work with NextStep Intel or NextStep Motorolla,
> but there are a few exceptions. For example, a Quantum PD1800s will not
> work with NextStep Motorolla (with the firmware version that Quantum was
> selling two months ago) but will work with Intel. There is a 95% chance
> that any SCSI drive you buy will work, but make sure your drive vendor has
> a 30 day return policy just in case.
Also, some old IBM hds wre said to be unusable with black h/w.
Juergen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer to Intel?
Message-ID: <Cx7DMG.n6@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <skrbec.781220686@fox>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:01:28 GMT
In article <skrbec.781220686@fox> skrbec@fox.cig.mot.com (Brad Skrbec) writes:
> I'm sure that this question has been asked and answered many
> times, but I can't seem to find it in the FAQ...
>
> Is it possible to connect the NeXT laser printer to an intel
> machine? I looked around for some specifics on the NeXT printer
> port, but found very little. If its possible, what's involved?
Short :
it's not possible
Long :
Maybe it is possible, if you knew pinout, voltage, protocol of NeXT's proprietary format, plus
managed to build suitable hardware on the Intel side to adapt to voltage-levels plus knew how to
write drivers.
Taking into respect NeXT's closedness concerning internal info plus the required effort I recommend
to forget it. If you have to use the old NeXT printer (which is real nice) I suggest to use an old
NeXT (black) as PrintServer.
Juergen
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== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: Do CD-ROM drives need fans?
Message-ID: <1994Oct5.180333.6919@galois.mit.edu>
Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 94 18:03:33 GMT
Well, the subject line pretty much says it. I needed to get a new
CD-ROM drive to install NS on my HP. I bought a Toshiba from a mail
order place (MEGAHOUSE). The annoying thing is it is NOISY. They put
it in an enclosure with a fan. I wonder what will happen if I simply
take the fan out. Any thoughts? The NeXT cd-rom drive had no fan.
Neither do the music ones. Anyone know?
Mike
--
-----------------------------------
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mjh@math.mit.edu
-----------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nimbus.ruhr.de!snoopy (Ingo Schaefer)
Subject: Re: Problems with new SoundBlaster16 beta driver
Message-ID: <Cx7qyK.B9@nimbus.ruhr.de>
Sender: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (Ingo Schaefer)
Organization: Private Site, Germany
References: <1994Oct5.133044.18449@alias.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 18:49:32 GMT
In article <1994Oct5.133044.18449@alias.com> mtaylor@alias.com (Michael
Taylor) writes:
> I have attempted to install the SoundBlaster16 Beta driver and
> have had several problems. I was wondering if anyone had any
> similar problems
>
With the help of the posting from croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca in
comp.sys.next.hardware I got my SB16 ASP running with an Adaptec 1542CF.
Fist all seems fine. I could play sounds up to 44khz 2 channels.
But then the system crashes. Only a reset works then.
These crashes occurs from time to time without any error messages :- (
A friend of mine told me, that this could be a bus-master problem
between SB and 1542(I have an ISA Board). The Adaptec is a busmaster,
but until now,i thought the SB wasn't.
(By the way, with OS/2 and Linux all works fine)
Does any body know those hardware details about the SB.
Thanks in advance.
-
Ingo
eMail: snoopy@nimbus.ruhr.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dead CDROM??
Keywords: Cube, CDROM
Message-ID: <10689@cg-atla.UUCP>
Date: 5 Oct 94 13:17:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA
I have not used my CDROM drive in a while, now when I put
a disk in, the drive light flashes and the console reports
the device as "BUSY". This is the original (black) cdrom
hooked up to a cube.
Any ideas? Is it time for a cleaning?
-peter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: troyw@teal.csn.org (Troy Weingart)
Subject: New NeXT-ite, Need Advise
Message-ID: <Cx7xop.GL3@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:14:48 GMT
I am relatively new to the NeXT marketplace and would like to run my plan
by the masses before I commit the cash.
I would like to purchase a low end Intel box to run NeXTSTEP on. (486/P60?)
This machine would be used for running windows apps like Quicken, some of
the educational CD ROMS, and some dabbling with NS software development.
What is the best way to go? I'm a bit taken back by the huge number of
vendors selling Intel machines. I plan on purchasing NS3.3 to run on this
machine and would like to set myself up for success. Can any of you make
recommendations on what which vendors I should look into? (Dell, Zeos, Zenon,
Cornell, Gateway??) Is anyone in the Denver area running NS on an Intel box I
could see? They only piece of hardware that I have nailed is my monitor, a
Nanao F560iw - - which is at this time no more than a costly paper weight.
Thanks very much in advance
--
* Troy Weingart Internet: troyw@csn.org *
* 6825 Ashley Drive AT&Tnet: 719.574.9844 *
* Colo Sprgs, CO 80922 *
From: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: My NS/FIP success story
Date: 3 Oct 1994 23:14:05 GMT
Organization: - CyberDyne Systems -
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <36q37t$s4@anduin.subculture>
References: <CEDMAN.94Sep25215739@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Sep25215739@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl
Edman) writes:
[Stuff deleted]
> A Dell XPS 90 (because Dell has a good reputation for both quality and
> performance without charging too much of a premium for it) mini-tower
> (to fit in all my peripherals) with a combo disk drive (because the
> upgrade to it is very inexpensive and I still sometimes need to use
> old disks) and a Lexmark keyboard (because I like the feel of those
> IBM keyboards), 32 MBytes of RAM (Dell would have charged me another
> $1.8k for another 32 MBytes) and a 540 MByte IDE harddisk (because it
> was required and I wanted to keep DOS on a separate disk anyway)
What is the average street price of that configuration?
> A Seagate Barracuda ST12550 2 GByte harddisk (it still is the fastest
> SCSI hard disk and the 4 GByte version isn't widely available yet).
>
> Adaptec 2940 PCI host adapter (because it is the only PCI SCSI adapter
> supported by NeXT (since 3.3pr2) and Talus made it clear that they
> didn't want my business)
How did you avoid the Bios/IDE - SCSI conflict? Or do you boot from the IDE NEXTSTEP and
then switch to the SCSI drive?
--
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Witikonerstrasse 59 | ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
8032 Zuerich | "And bold and hard adventures t'undertake,
Switzerland | Leaving his country for his country's sake."
----------- | Sir Francis Drake (1596)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Setting up a boot drive
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:24:54 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <kiYixqi00WBNQ5hUYM@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Oct5.132402.20241@il.us.swissbank.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-Oct-94 Setting up a boot
drive by Ted Horst@il.us.swissban
> If I were to just connect the drive and a CD-ROM drive with NEXTSTEP 3.2
> on it and boot off of the floppy that comes with the CD, would the disk be
> initialized with the correct parameters ? (eg. rpm=5400).
No, the standard install does not construct the filesystem with the
appropriate rotational speed, although it will handle most of the other
parameters correctly.
> Is it possible to install NEXTSTEP from the CD without reinitializing the
> disk ?
It's possible to install without doing a SCSI "Format Unit" command,
which does a low-level format, but it's not possible to avoid doing a
newfs/mkfs, which will build a new filesystem (which hacking the
installation scripts).
> If I need to use a disktab, where would I put it ? (on the floppy ?)
You can't with the CD-ROM install.
> I have sdformat, but it was not clear to me how to use it to set things
> other than the block size (disconnect/reconnect on demand, asynch
> transfer, parity, ???
You need to consult the extended service documentation which should be
available for that drive from the place you bought in and/or from the
drive manufacturer directly.
Those things are sometimes controlled by jumpers which you physically
have to chnage, others may be controlled by doing SCSI "Mode Select"
commands with the appropriate values.
> Does Builddisk help with any of this ?
Sure. You can use a customized disktab with it, I believe, so you can
get the newfs/mkfs call to have more appropriate parameters. Make sure
that you execute the BuildDisk.app from an stock (unmodified)
installation of NEXTSTEP.
I'd avoid Upgrade.app, since a number of people have experienced
problems using it.
Good luck.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
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NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Date: 5 Oct 1994 21:28:54 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <36v5qm$paq@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <1994Oct4.173353.28989@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy Brockbank (samurai@hasc.ca) wrote:
:
: Well, I don't know how many of you are up to date on my hardware woes.
: Basically, I had cured them all, but was still dissapointed with by disk
: write performance. I talked a bit with a friend of mine a while ago
: (thanks Bob) who mentioned that I should try fiddling with the disk
: initialization procedure.
: For the record, I have a Micropolis 4110 1.0gig SCSI-II drive, and a
: NCR based PCI SCSI-II controller, using a Talus driver.
: I was getting a blazingly fast write benchmark of 465kb/sec. Sarcasm
: intended.
: So, I re-built the disk, but initialized it like this:
: (disk is sd1, and I have it fdisked to two partitions, one for DOS)
:
: disk -i /dev/rsd1h
: newfs -n -v -r 5400 /dev/rsd1a
: Most SCSI-II disks seem to be 5400 RPM disks. "disk" doesn't query for
: rotational speed, although this is simple to do. It's a bug, I figure.
: Anyway, the second call directly to newfs re-initializes the filesystem
: with a layout that's optimal for a 5400 RPM disk. After doing this, and
: re-installing NEXTSTEP I now have a write performance benchmark of 1311kb/sec,
: which is nearly 3 times faster.
wow!
So, it's not the fault of the Talus driver as some people were implying
then......
This sounds important enough to go into the FAQ, Nextanswers,
and Talus' documentation.
: - db
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-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
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From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RAM for NSColorTurbo
Date: 5 Oct 1994 22:09:17 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <36v86d$oqt@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
From the FAQ there is a list of RAM configurations as follows:
> 72 Pin SIMMs
> 1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 148
> 1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 171
> 2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 295
> 2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 345
> 4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 585 (non-composite)
> 4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 645 (composite)
> 8x32-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $1250
> 8x36-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $1410
>
..
--
Does anyone know the difference between composite and non-composite RAM?
Is this the same as parity and non-parity RAM? I have a turbo color and
was thinking of upgrading the RAM by replacing the original two 8MB SIMMS
with two 16 MB SIMMS but with parity. Does using parity RAM affect the
performance of the machine because of the additional parity checks?
Thanks in advance.
..Mike.
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From: bjones@concord.nwest.mccaw.com (Bruce Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printer Driver for HP Plotter DraftMaster II (HP-GLII upgrade)
Date: 5 Oct 1994 23:38:50 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <36vdea$6mu@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Keywords: Printer Driver Plotter HP
Looked everywhere for a driver for HP Plotter DraftMaster II (with a
HP-GLII upgrade).
Can't find one anywhere!
Can anyone help!!!!!!
Thanks
--
______________________________________________________________
Bruce Jones
Technical Analyst McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
bruce.jones@mccaw.com 3933 Lake Washington Blvd NE
206.803.7373 Kirkland, WA 98033
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 22:36:49 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8iYq=1K00iV8EA0EUE@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <36v5qm$paq@network.ucsd.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 5-Oct-94 Re: Slow disk writes?
Dissa.. by Matt Kennel@inls1.ucsd.e
> wow!
>
> So, it's not the fault of the Talus driver as some people were implying
> then......
>
> This sounds important enough to go into the FAQ, Nextanswers,
> and Talus' documentation.
This is already documented pretty well in the man pages.
Try 'man xxx', where xxx is one of:
newfs
mkfs
tunefs
5 fs
disktab
disk
(Of course, that doesn't mean that this information shouldn't also be
cross-referenced from elsewhere: the FAQ should mention these manpages,
perhaps, and note that setting the right parameters appropriately can
produce a significant improvement in performance. Ditto for
NeXTanswers, Talus drivers, and what have you.)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: bjmohr@athena.mit.edu (Brent J Mohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP on a modem choice for NeXT slab
Date: 6 Oct 1994 05:02:01 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BJMOHR.94Oct6010201@bolognese.mit.edu>
Hello out there,
I'm trying to gather any information on which would be the best fax/modem
for my '040 turbo slab. I would also appreciate any advice about which
software to look into, and how to best configure the whole set up (I
would like to be able to remotely log on to my machine)
Thanx for any suggestions,
Brent
-------------------------
bjmohr@athena.mit.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Message-ID: <Cx7B5o.1I4@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <1994Oct4.173353.28989@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:08:11 GMT
In article <1994Oct4.173353.28989@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@hasc.ca
(Darcy Brockbank) writes:
>
[...]
> I was getting a blazingly fast write benchmark of 465kb/sec. Sarcasm
> intended.
[..]
> After doing this, and
> re-installing NEXTSTEP I now have a write performance benchmark of
> 1311kb/sec,
> which is nearly 3 times faster.
How did the read performance change? Increase or decrease?
Thanks.
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Anybody using miroCrystal 40SV or WINNER 2000PRO?
Message-ID: <Cx8DDw.1zw@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <36u9vp$scg@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 02:53:56 GMT
In article <36u9vp$scg@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram) writes:
> I would greatly appreciate any comments regarding the miroCrystal 40SV
or the
> WINNER 2000PRO. Please include any information regarding RAMDAC, speed
in NEXTSTEP,
> DOS, or Windows environments, refresh rates, and resolutions.
Elsa Winner 2000 PRO:
S3 964, 4MB VRAM, TI3020 RAMDAC 175MHz (200 MHz version available
at special price, I think it's called Winner 2000 PRO H then).
NeXTSTEP:
1154x864x24 @ 64 Hz, very high NXFactor of >1.7
after patching the driver, 69 Hz are possible (without driving
the card out of spec!)
1376x1024x12 @ 73 Hz, NXFactor about 1.4
goes up to about 1536x1130x8.
Dos/Windows:
works.
XFree86[tm]-3.1:
1536x1132x8, 250k xstones.
There's a dos utility which enables you to set every possible
resolution/frequency or picture-position and store it to a file
which the driver (DOS/Windows/NeXTSTEP) can read.
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anybody using miroCrystal 40SV or WINNER 2000PRO?
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 94 02:02:24 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <pU9Up4Y.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <36u9vp$scg@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Michael:
We are currently testing both the 40SV and 40SV-ergo for our product line.
NXFactor = 1.46 [ p-90, 32 MB RAM]
This compares with about the same number for the Weitek 9100.
40SV ergo top res: 1600x1200@65Hz with 16 bit color
or 1408x1024@70Hz with 16 bit color.
The RAMDAC is a TI 220Mhz unit.
Regards,
Marty
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Using NeXT Hitachi monitor on other platforms?
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 94 02:09:39 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <p0+URQT.jhepp@delphi.com>
I'd like to use my NeXT monitor with my PC too. Bell Atlantic says
it should be possible but they didn't know where to go. Has anyone
successfully attached one to another platform? It's such a beautiful
monitor, I'd hate to have to pay for another of comparable quality.
Any tips, pointers or experiences would be greatly appreciated.
JHEPP@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: brianew@microsoft.com (Brian Ewanchuk)
Subject: NeXT MegaPixel 17" Color Monitor and PC ???
Message-ID: <Cx68LD.FsD@microsoft.com>
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: display
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 23:15:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Is there any way to use a 17" Color Next Monitor with a standard PC??? Is there such a cable ?
Thanks
Brianew@microsoft.com
From: duane@shell.portal.com (Duane Takamine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Date: 6 Oct 1994 09:53:41 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Message-ID: <370hf5$32b@news1.shell>
References: <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com> <CwyF53.EE@nimbus.ruhr.de>
In article <CwyF53.EE@nimbus.ruhr.de>,
Ingo Schaefer <nimbus.ruhr.de!snoopy> wrote:
>In article <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com> tdave@raivac.com writes:
>> I have just tried the new SoundBlaster beta driver from NeXT (available
>> from ftp.next.com) and am still confused. The documentation is ambiguous
>> as to whether the driver will work with an ISA card. When installed the
>> driver I did get some sound but it was more like a dying tasmanian devil
>> than what I had selected. Anybody else with similar experiences?
>
>I have problems with the driver too
>There are some error outputs in /usr/admin/messages
>
>Sep 30 10:51:53 nimbus mach: SoundBlaster: sound stream encoding
>'linear16'
>Sep 30 10:51:53 nimbus mach: SoundBlaster: not supported dma 16 bit word
>transfer width
>Sep 30 10:51:53 nimbus mach: SoundBlaster: DMA stopped
>
I believe that you have an 8 bit card. The SB driver will only
work with SB16 or compatibles. There seems to be no way to make a
driver that will work simultaneously with 8 bit and 16 bit cards
without serious hacking around DriverKit (I've tried). The public
SB driver on the anon ftp sites should work with your card if it
is 8 bit (although I do not think 16 bit sounds will play without
convertin to 8 bit - bummer, because system sounds are 16 bit initially).
If you have a 16 bit card, you may not have correctly set
your 16 bit DMA channel.
Duane
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From: buffalo@universe.digex.net (At the edge of Time and Speed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: a question
Date: 6 Oct 1994 07:30:09 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006082605.21050A-100000@universe.digex.net>
Maybe someone here can help me.....
I just bought a Next Printer, to go with my Next (imagine that), but
it doesnt have docs, and I dont know what kind of toner cartridge
to get for it, it is a black and white printer.
Thanks in advance,
Andy
From: bwh@kato.prl.ufl.edu (Brian Hook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard of The Deanox Grou
Date: 06 Oct 1994 06:04:32 GMT
Organization: Parallel Research Lab
Message-ID: <BWH.94Oct6020432@kato.prl.ufl.edu>
References: <36n0aq$dn3@bmw.hwcae.az.honeywel>
In-reply-to: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com's message of 02 Oct 94 22:06 GMT+0300
I haven't purchased anything from them, however I have dealt with the guys
there for a reasonable amount of time. They seem to be basically
knowledgable, and VERY eager to please with different configurations,
willing to experiment with new video cards, etc. and do the research
necessary to get you a stable system.
Definitely worth a try, in my opinion. I believe their e-mail address is:
deanox@cc.usu.edu
Brian
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From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: COGENT Ethernet PCI adapter
Date: 6 Oct 1994 16:24:09 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3718b9$6bi@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <CwxzFz.Gyp@eunet.ch>
In article <CwxzFz.Gyp@eunet.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes:
> Hi
>
> has anyone purchased one of these board and tested it with NS ?
>
OpenSource, Inc. recently supplied one of its clients with a Pentium
OPENstation equipped with the Cogent PCI combo card. It works fine. One
slight problem: while the coax and twisted-pair connections were easily
accessible, the "thick" coonector's access was limited by the case we
used. We have them in stock if you are interested.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MICROPOLIS Drives on NeXTs--Problems?
Date: 6 Oct 1994 14:50:15 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Message-ID: <3712r7$uc@newsflash.mitre.org>
I've finally come to the end of the line on my Seagate and need more
space. Since, I've been pleased with their product quality and
service, I'm probably going to buy a replacement drive from Alliance
Peripheral Systems. However, the drive that I'm looking at is based
on the Micropolis 4110 mechanism, and I seem to remember posts in
c.s.n.h last spring that indicated that there were compatibility
problems between NeXTs and Micropolis drives.
Anyone remember anything about this and care to enlighten me?
Thanks much.
- Max
| William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
| EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology |
| NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 |
| |
| Opinions expressed are my own. Who else would want them? |
From: charles400@aol.com (Charles400)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New NeXT-ite, Need Advise
Date: 6 Oct 1994 11:57:01 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3716od$5l3@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
References: <Cx7xop.GL3@csn.org>
In article <Cx7xop.GL3@csn.org>, troyw@teal.csn.org (Troy Weingart)
writes:
Well, ZEOS offers systems that when configured with an "optional" SCSI
adaptor
and scsi cd will run NS 3.2. (this is according to Zeos) So for about
$3200(P-60)
and $800 (NS) YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT AT LEAST IN
PRINCIPLE...............WORKS!
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: WTB: Crapped out NeXT 2.88 Floppy drives
Date: 6 Oct 1994 17:57:03 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <371dpf$vdj@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
The subject pretty much says it all. If you have one or more 'dead'
NeXT Floppy drives (PLI ok too) that you don't want hanging around
feel free to e-mail me.
Randy Rencsok
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
517-371-3327
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: vrn@everest.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz)
Subject: Drivers for Adaptec 2740, 2742 SCSI Card
Message-ID: <Cx9JxM.4Ms@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 18:13:28 GMT
Anyone hear any word yet about when this driver will be released? I was
told in late July by someone at NeXT that the driver might be around by
mid Sept, but I haven't seen or heard anything since.
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NWBench.app scores
Date: 6 Oct 1994 15:36:16 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <371qkg$pmr@xmission.xmission.com>
Here are two sets of reports from NWBench, one from a NeXTstation mono 32/400
and the other from a DECpc XL 560 24/1000 (Adaptec, Viper PCI 2 MB, Intel 16tp)
MIPS: 16.224127
PostScript speed: D-V: 6.768 V-V: 5.616
Ethernet speed: 96.091408
Webster benchmark: 54.230049
Compile: 57.032124
PostScript speed: D-V: 6.8 V-V: 5.504
Name of System: DECpc XL
CPU Speed: Pentium 60
Disk Subsystem: Adaptec 1542CF / DEC SCSI disk
LAN Adaptor: Intel EtherExpress 16TP
Graphics Card and Resolution: Diamond Viper 2 MB PCI @ 1280 x 1024
"Boot Drivers" = "PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B Floppy SerialPorts EISABus PCIBus"
MIPS: 51.900318
PostScript speed: D-V: 16.112 V-V: 6.336
Ethernet speed: 1.186998
Webster benchmark: 30.958586
Compile: 96.015564
.......................kris
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <cnslt018@phibro.com>
From: William Wei<cnslt018@phibro.com>
Message-ID: <9410061726.AA22778@mail0181.Phibro.COM>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 94 13:26:14 -0400
Site: Phibro Energy Inc (Westport)
Subject: Optical Drive to work with NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI
Has Any body had an Optical Drive work with NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI under N/S 3.2?
I have an IBM OEM external OD which uses to work with Adaptec SCSI and is working fine for
NeXTstation. But when it is connect to NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI it hangs the machine.
Any idea?
William Wei
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MICROPOLIS Drives on NeXTs--Problems?
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 14:24:08 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UiZ438q00iV3I62GxJ@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3712r7$uc@newsflash.mitre.org>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Oct-94 MICROPOLIS Drives
on NeXTs-.. by William Herndon@smiley.m
> However, the drive that I'm looking at is based
> on the Micropolis 4110 mechanism, and I seem to remember posts in
> c.s.n.h last spring that indicated that there were compatibility
> problems between NeXTs and Micropolis drives.
>
> Anyone remember anything about this and care to enlighten me?
Well, I've got a Micropolis 2210 (which the 4110 replaces) and it works
perfectly, and quickly. Obviously, Micropolis drives can be made to
work with NeXT machines, although you might wish to verify that your
drive vendor does know about NeXT hardware requirements and knows how to
configure the drive appropriately for your system.
Good luck,
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 94 21:54:11 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Oct6.215411.16844@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <8iYq=1K00iV8EA0EUE@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>newfs
>mkfs
>tunefs
>5 fs
>disktab
>disk
>
>(Of course, that doesn't mean that this information shouldn't also be
>cross-referenced from elsewhere: the FAQ should mention these manpages,
>perhaps, and note that setting the right parameters appropriately can
>produce a significant improvement in performance. Ditto for
>NeXTanswers, Talus drivers, and what have you.)
Well, it would help if the drives that have an odd number of 512 byte sectors
on a track could be set up correctly. Unfortuneatly, NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not
allow one to specify the 512 byte blocksize in the first place (it is hard
coded for 1024 bytes/sector, which is find for a drive that has an even
number of sectors/track).
Enjoy, I ain't, Ciao -- Mark
From: lbeears@coyote.rain.org (Les Beears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSFIP Success! Thanks to Talus
Date: 6 Oct 1994 14:37:50 -0700
Organization: RAIN Network
Message-ID: <371qne$4ae@coyote.rain.org>
Since I mentioned PPP an earlier in response to this subject,
I keeping mail asking where the PPP files are.
The answer is ftp.duq.edu
THe path (I think) is /pub/next/ppp.
Good luck.
Les
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Drivers for Adaptec 2740, 2742 SCSI Card
Date: 6 Oct 94 21:54:44 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.781480484@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <Cx9JxM.4Ms@news.cis.umn.edu>
vrn@everest.umhc.umn.edu (Vince Netz) writes:
>Anyone hear any word yet about when this driver will be released? I was
>told in late July by someone at NeXT that the driver might be around by
>mid Sept, but I haven't seen or heard anything since.
A driver for 2740/2840 can be found on
ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/CompressedFiles/Drivers/3.2_Drivers.
Markus.
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// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Interfacing HP-4P with parallel port on Gateway
Date: 6 Oct 1994 23:55:58 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3722qe$duc@news.iastate.edu>
Here is a very basic question: we just got an HP-4P laserwriter and want
to interface it via the parallel port with our Gateway 2000 machine
running NS3.1. Seemed pretty simple to me, but of course my optimism
proved infounded.
Here is what I did:
1) went into Configure.app and added the on board parallel port.
2) Went into PrintManager and added the printer using the parallel port,
and setting it to be an HP-600dpi laserwriter.
3) Set up the printer per instructions, connecting the cable to the LPT-1
port.
4) Rebooted.
Complete zippo, and the relevant error message seems to occur during boot:
Oct 6 18:18:20 daf mach: IOParallelPort not allocated: controller not
detected at address 0x378
The parallel port has IRQ-7, and there are no conflicts. All I did was
click "Add" and Save in Configure.app and I have no idea what the 0x378
refers to (PC hardware is *not* my forte).
Can anyone suggest a course of action? Sorry if this is a really basic
question, as I said, setting up PCs is something I have little experience
with.
Thanks in advance --- Tom
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard of The Deanox Group?
Message-ID: <1994Oct4.140202.28733@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (mike emmel)
Date: 4 Oct 94 14:02:01 MDT
References: <36n0aq$dn3@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Distribution: world
In article <36n0aq$dn3@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> writes:
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has heard of The Deanox Group? I have heard
that they are
> a company in Utah that specializes in building NS/FIP systems using the
DECpc.
> Please post if you have any comments and/or know how to get in contact
(phone number,
> address, or email) with this company.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Michael
Ther in Logan Utah right down the street from me
Adress
123 E. 1400 N. Suite A
Logan UT 84321
Phone:
(801) 755-0727
I don't have email for them but Kimball Fyfe is their Computer expert on
NeXTStep sytems.
If you want more info or want email contact with them send me a message
and i'll delver it.
mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu
P.S. I tried to mail you but it kept bouncing back.
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard of The Deanox Group?
Date: 6 Oct 1994 21:30:43 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <372fd3$lj0@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <36n0aq$dn3@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> <1994Oct4.140202.28733@cc.usu.edu>
mike emmel (mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu) wrote:
: In article <36n0aq$dn3@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> writes:
: > Hello,
: >
: > I was wondering if anyone has heard of The Deanox Group? I have heard
: Logan UT 84321
: (801) 755-0727
: I don't have email for them but Kimball Fyfe is their Computer expert on
: NeXTStep sytems.
: P.S. I tried to mail you but it kept bouncing back.
Apparently, they have the full support of Dan Kramer, my former
colleague at Alpine Computing, and now the V. President of Nuclear Sidecars
and Vodka at Talus.
I'm happy to see more companies in my home state (hell, in my own backyard)
supporting PC hardware running NEXTSTEP, when mail-order vendors and others
are abandoning it.
Just be careful of Dan. If you meet him in person, make sure it's not on a
rugby field. He has a tattoo on his forehead (just like mine) that says
"poor impulse control." I think Kimball has a tattoo on his forehead that says
"Intel Inside."
............................kris
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: better, nicer keyboard needed
Date: 7 Oct 1994 01:51:16 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3729ik$4fi@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <36tm7d$m34@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
-> Hi, I have a NeXTStation TurboColor and use its standard
-> keyboard, but after about a year of heavy use, I am
-> starting to develop strong pain in my finger junctions.
-> Is there a soft touch keyboard that is compatible with
-> this next? I will like to use or try other keyboards.
If your system is ADB, or you convert to ADB, you could
use some latter Mac keyboards. Actually, the NeXT ADB
keyboard is softer than the older keyboard as well.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: ralf@reswi.en.open.de (Ralf E. Stranzenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: 06 Oct 1994 19:59:48 GMT
Organization: News Server fuer en.open.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RALF.94Oct6205948@jodokus.en.open.de>
References: <36qksh$r9h@mark.ucdavis.edu> <36s2u5$hoi@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
In-reply-to: talus.com!steve's message of 4 Oct 1994 17:21:09 GMT
>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Sarich <talus.com!steve> writes:
In article <36s2u5$hoi@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
Hi,
Steve> At lot of us have had very good luck with the Intel "Plato"
Steve> boards which use the Neptune chipset. They are PCI/ISA and
Steve> they are the fastest ones we've tested to date. Unless you
Steve> really _need_ EISA, this would be my first choice. I don't
Steve> know anyone who's tested the A.I.R. board that you
Steve> mentioned, but you should be aware that there is no 3.2
Steve> driver for the 2940W. While there is one coming in 3.3,
Steve> you should be aware that you're not going to be able to use
Steve> your machine in the meantime and I don't believe that you
Steve> can successfully disable it (and still still be able to run
Steve> the NCR). You can try it, but I think you're asking for
Steve> more frustration.
I just spent some time with a Pentium Board named Plato P54/C (or
something like that). It seems very stable to me, it just sometimes
panics during bootup.
This board has an IDE, two serial and one parallel port. But
unfortunately the system ("onboard serial" and MUX-driver) dislikes
the serial ports. Is there anything to do ? These ports should work,
because they are build using the same chip as the cheapo 1655[20]
serial cards i use.
- ralf
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at Home: +49 2302 / 96200-3
at Work: +49 231 / 75892-15
Buecher kruemmen Zeit und Raum. Einer der Gruende dafuer, warum die
Eigentuemer der bereits erwaehnten kleinen Antiquariate so unirdisch
und uebernatuerlich wirken, besteht darin, dass sie wirklich unirdisch
und uebernatuerlich sind. Sie nahmen eine falsche Abzweigung in ihren
Buchlaeden, die zu anderen Welten gehoerten. Dort gilt es als voellig
normal, staendig Pantoffeln zu tragen und das Geschaeft nur zu
oeffnen, wenn man Lust dazu hat.
Terry Pratchett, "Wachen! Wachen!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ingo@ipge.toppoint.de (Ingo Prochaska)
Subject: Drvier for Ultrastor 34F wanted
Keywords: SCSI, VLB, Ultrastor
Message-ID: <1994Oct7.062337.29801@ipge.toppoint.de>
Organization: Private Site, Kiel, Germany
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 06:23:37 GMT
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello,
I am new on NeXT-Step. More exactly I am running Linux, and would like to
change to NeXT-Step.
There is a Ultrastor 34F SCSI-Hostadapter in my PC, but I have not found a
driver for it on ftp.next.com. Does that mean there is no Driver? Have I
looked in the wrong place?
If there is no U34F-Driver, which VLB-SCSI-Hostadapter would you recommend
for running NeXT-Step?
Ingo
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From: kwl@oldp.uk.stratus.com (Keith W. E. Laidlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Any support for ISDN card on NSFIP?
Date: 7 Oct 1994 11:32:17 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <373bk1$qcm@transfer.stratus.com>
Does anyone out there know of any ISDN cards that NSFIPP supports?
I'm using SLIP for home working and I want to start investigating ISDN.
The Server side is all sorted out but I need info for NSFIP.
Many Thanks
Keith W. E. Laidlaw
Stratus Computers; European Support for Databases
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo)
Subject: EtherExpress Pro Adapter PCLA8225
Message-ID: <CxAw16.17n@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Followup-To: coco@erika.cb.att.com
Keywords: EtherExpress Ethernet Intel 10BaseT
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 11:31:53 GMT
Does the above ethernet board work on NSfip 3.2 using the
EtherExpress 16 driver? Anyone familiar with this board? The specs
list it as new for 1994, ISA bus, 10BaseT, RJ-45 connection, list price $120.
--Felix
coco@erika.cb.att.com
From: kuocy@tan.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: need suggestion on around $2000 DX2/66 machine
Date: 7 Oct 1994 06:44:23 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <372qo7$8uv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Is there any DX2/66 system that can run NSFIP and cost around $2000 ?
If you have successful experience in assemble such a machine, I will very appreciate to hear from you.
Thanks,
Chun-Yen
From: sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com (Steve McDowall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 7 Oct 1994 14:35:36 GMT
Organization: Norwest Mortgage Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <373mbo$efv@slowhand.nmb.com>
References: <griffon.317.000A0607@unixg.ubc.ca> <36pde6$hdr@anshar.shadow.net>
Well, for me 4 MB made a big difference! On my #9GXE64PRO, the 2MB card
did not work with the NS #9 driver, but the 4 MB works just great!!
Of course, with 4MB you get more real-estate at higher resolutions..
I am running 1152x896 32-bit at 76 HZ and it looks wonderful...
So, if you can afford it..take the 4MB option (the #9 is good, I hear the
Diamond Viper (rememember, only $396 with upgrade (ANY board will do) for
the 4MB Stealth64), and of course the ATI MACH64..
--
Steven J. McDowall ATT: 515 221-4286
sjmcdowa@slowhand.nmb.com
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Modem info...
Keywords: SLIP, MODEM
Message-ID: <10690@cg-atla.UUCP>
Date: 7 Oct 94 11:59:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA
Well, I'm finally going to get a SLIP connection... however I don't
think that my 9600 bps modem is up to the job. I would appreciate
some feedback on what to buy, general prices, etc. I was looking
at the SupraFAX 288; please send comments to:
greis@tiac.com
thanx,
-peter
BTW, I have a 25MHz cube (no problems in 3 years :) ).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: Digital Video and Video Capture?
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I have heard that there is a thing called NeXT Time that will
runQuicktime videos. Is there something that will run AVI Video for
Windows files? Is there a way to use a video capture card in NS to
capture video from a VCR or other source. I have Intel Smart Video
Recorder and would like to be able to work with digital video. Anyone
done this?
Matt Webster
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 13:03:24 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <4iZLxQq00iV3Q52EVa@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Oct6.215411.16844@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 6-Oct-94 Re: Slow disk writes?
Dissa.. by Mark G. Salyzyn@ve6mgs.a
> Well, it would help if the drives that have an odd number of 512 byte sectors
> on a track could be set up correctly. Unfortuneatly, NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not
> allow one to specify the 512 byte blocksize in the first place (it is hard
> coded for 1024 bytes/sector, which is find for a drive that has an even
> number of sectors/track).
Did you try to reformat the drive to 1024 byte physical sectors?
That'll match with the internal blocksize....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: coppinj@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com (John Coppinger)
Subject: What's the best notebook for running NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17:16:28 GMT
Who has the best notebook for NEXTSTEP? I've heard about:
1. The laptop from Talus
2. A rumor of a great new Versa from NEC
3. Improved notebook support in NS Release 3.3.
I'm looking for a notebook that has the following:
1. At least 16M RAM (prefer 32M)
2. At least 500M drive (prefer 1Gig)
3. At least 486-DX2 66MHz
4. At least 8-bit color with Release 3.3
5. PowerBook-style wrist support
6. PowerBook-style trackball or ThinkPad-style stick
I'm interested in any comments, suggestions or recommendations.
Thanks,
John Coppinger
coppinj@dev.ny.us.swissbank.com
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 7 Oct 94 08:40:07 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
As much as it pains me to say it, the new Microsoft ergonomic keyboard looks
pretty cool. <sigh> I almost feel compelled to go out and buy one!
Has anyone tried one of these dudes with NEXTSTEP? Can the little "Windows"
keys be used as Command keys? That would be cool. :-)
Any info would be appreciated.
======================================================================
John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred)
Programmer/Analyst slxn8@cc.usu.edu -or-
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
"Life is too important to take seriously."
======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: coppinj@dev.ny.us.swissbank.com (John Coppinger)
Subject: Re: What's the best notebook for running NEXTSTEP?
In-Reply-To: coppinj@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com's message of Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17: 16:28 GMT
Message-ID: <COPPINJ.94Oct7133039@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17:30:39 GMT
Note: the From: line in the original message was wrong. My correct
email address is: coppinj@dev.ny.us.swissbank.com
Thanks,
jc
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Turtle Beach
Date: 7 Oct 1994 17:12:27 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Message-ID: <373vhr$i8f@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Has anyone tried the Turtle Beach drivers that a purportedly included with
MusicKit 4.1?
What cards do the drivers work with? Are they buggy? Excellent?
Any comments would be appreciated.
Peter
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: COGENT Ethernet PCI (warning!)
Date: 7 Oct 1994 20:26:33 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <374atp$d10@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <3718b9$6bi@potogold.rmii.com>
In article <3718b9$6bi@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com
(Daniel J. Gamble) writes:
> In article <CwxzFz.Gyp@eunet.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes:
> > Hi
> >
> > has anyone purchased one of these board and tested it with NS ?
> >
> OpenSource, Inc. recently supplied one of its clients with a Pentium
> OPENstation equipped with the Cogent PCI combo card. It works fine.
One
> slight problem: while the coax and twisted-pair connections were easily
> accessible, the "thick" coonector's access was limited by the case we
> used. We have them in stock if you are interested.
> --
>
> Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
Warning! Don't try this card if you are already using the NCR PCI SCSI,
either on-board or as an add-on card. You _will_ hose your system! NS
3.3 will/should fix this problem with conflicting PCI devices.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
steve@talus.com
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can someone comment about my H/W Wishlist?
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 14:39:40 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <godwin.337.000D8D12@unixg.ubc.ca>
Hello!
As I finalize my system section of my new self put together NS box to
replace my 486 here is what I got so far...
Gigabyte P90 MB 512 Cache and PCI/ISA
32 MB 70ns Ram
#9GXE Pro 4MB Vid card.....I really don't want to spend extra money on a
talus driver for the ATI;-)
DPT PCI SCSI controller
Kensington trackball
Microsoft Keyboard
A Segate haven't decide on the brand of HD but will be SCSI 2 one and 1 Gig
to 2 gigs
SB AWE 32
Intel EtherExpress Pro
Thinking about getting a ReelMagic...Anyone know about the support goign to
be? and does the current SB take advantage of the AWE? SB16really sux....I
used SMW for my Winblows box and Os/2 works fine and sounds much better than
the SB16...so I am sticking with Wave Table cards now non of the FM crap...
Can some kind soul comment on my setup PLZ!!!!??? Thanks!=)
Godwin
From: adour@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adour Vahe Kabakian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,su.computers.next
Subject: Configuration for mixing 1Mb and 4Mn SIMMS
Date: 7 Oct 1994 21:54:58 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <374g3i$cju@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: Ram, Simms.
A friend of mine has a NexStation which was running on 8Mb. We
just replaced four of the old 1Mb SIMMS with new 4Mb modules - the 4x8
types advertised for Macs and rated at 70ns. Unfortunately, the
computer didn't recognize the new SIMMS and went into a swapping
frenzy at at boot time. According to the m command, we replaced the
SIMMS in slots # 4-7.
Have we bought the wrong kind of RAM? Is there a special slot
configuration when using four 1Mb and four 4Mb SIMMS? I don't think
we "fried" anything in the process since after reinstalling the old
SIMMS everything worked fine again.
As a side note, not a single technician wanted even to touch the
Next since there were no replacement parts available in case they
damaged something in the process. Maybe a comp.support.next newsgroup
should be created :-)
-adour
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From: kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=)
Subject: Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 07 Oct 1994 19:07:00 +0100
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Distribution: world
> Has anyone tried one of these dudes with NEXTSTEP? Can the
> little "Windows" keys be used as Command keys? That would be
> cool. :-)
And while we are at it: Can we have replacement keycaps for
these little "Windows"-Keys? Please?
Kristian
--
Kristian Köhntopp, Harmsstraße 98, 24114 Kiel, +49 431 676689
"666 - the file protection of the beast."
## CrossPoint/2 v1.21 R ##
From: trestrail@delphi.com (Jeff Trestrail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Vendor sought for Miro ISA graphics card
Date: 7 Oct 1994 23:16:42 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <9410071915591.DLITE.trestrail@delphi.com>
I am looking to purchase either a Miro 8s or Elsa Winner ISA graphics
card to upgrade my NS system from the default VGA driver, but haven't
been able to find a seller in Computer Shopper or elsewhere.
If you sell either (or both) of these cards, or know someone who does,
please post or e-mail contact information (name, address, phone #).
Thanks.
Jeff Trestrail
trestrail@delphi.com
From: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov (David R. Quarrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: COGENT Ethernet PCI (warning!)
Date: 7 Oct 1994 23:49:49 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <41780@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
References: <374atp$d10@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
In article <374atp$d10@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich
III) writes:
> In article <3718b9$6bi@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com
> (Daniel J. Gamble) writes:
> > In article <CwxzFz.Gyp@eunet.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes:
> > --
> >
> > Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
>
> Warning! Don't try this card if you are already using the NCR PCI SCSI,
> either on-board or as an add-on card. You _will_ hose your system! NS
> 3.3 will/should fix this problem with conflicting PCI devices.
>
> Steve Sarich
> Talus Imaging
> steve@talus.com
Now I'm worried. I've been running NEXTSTEP 3.2 on a DECpc XL-560 for
several months now with what I believe to be exactly this configuration -
the NCR PCI SCSI (using the Talus Driver) and a Cogent PCI-Ethernet using
the NeXT driver from ftp.next.com. I've had no problems. Am I sitting on a
time bomb?
David
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From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which Enet card to get for NSFIP?
Date: 8 Oct 1994 00:25:10 GMT
Organization: GlobalCom
Message-ID: <374ot6$oqv@goodnews.globalcom.net>
I am going to be putting an ethernet card in my standalone
NSFIP machine soon...
The NextAnswers says to stay away from I think the etherlink
16, saying that NFS performance is not good.
Any goot net.helpers out there to provide me with suggestions?
Thanks, Patrick
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Date: 8 Oct 1994 00:29:48 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <374p5t$ilq@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <4iZLxQq00iV3Q52EVa@andrew.cmu.edu>
Of course, the real question is:
how do I figure out the optimal parameter for the
newfs command?
By the way, going from 512 to 1024 byte sectors on my 3GB Seagate ST43400N
disk drive gave me a few hundred megabyte more disk space and better
performance. I can highly recommend sdform (to be found on NeXT archives).
Of course, I now cannot boot from this drive any longer, because of DOS
BIOS limitations. What the heck...
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: Ergo Keyboards
Message-ID: <thompsonCxALI2.7ys@netcom.com>
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
References: <Godwin.328.00B6B291@unixg.ubc.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 07:44:25 GMT
I haven't seen seen the MS keyboard, but I *love* my Kinesis...
contact them at:
Kinesis
22232 17th Avenue SE
Bothell, WA 98021-7425
206/402-8100 voice
207/402-8181 fax
800/454-6374 sales
Not affiliated, just happy.
Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wcsmh@superior.carleton.ca (Mark Henry)
Subject: 28.8Kbps modems on white hardware... comments anyone?
Message-ID: <CxBJB2.501@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 19:54:38 GMT
I have had no problems using SLIP on a NeXTStation with a USRobotics
Sportster running at 14.4Kbps.
Recently I migrated to an object.station (ie. Intel hardware), and a
USRobotics Sportster 28.8Kbps V.FC modem. So far, I have not been able
to achieve the level of performace with this setup that I enjoyed under
black hardware with a 14.4 modem.
When connecting to another sportster at 28.8 kbps, my top FTP speed (raw
speed, compression turned off) has been 1.51 Kbps/seconda. It seems
that I should be able to do better than this (ie. perhaps ~2Kbps)..
I am assured by my systems administrator that it is a Problem At My End.
Any suggestions appreciated....
Mark
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Interfacing HP-4P with parallel port on Gateway
Date: 8 Oct 1994 04:10:53 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <37564d$out@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3722qe$duc@news.iastate.edu>
In article <3722qe$duc@news.iastate.edu>,
Dr. T. L. Marchioro II <tlm@ameslab.gov> wrote:
>
>Here is a very basic question: we just got an HP-4P laserwriter and want
>to interface it via the parallel port with our Gateway 2000 machine
>running NS3.1. Seemed pretty simple to me, but of course my optimism
>proved infounded.
>
>Here is what I did:
>
>1) went into Configure.app and added the on board parallel port.
>2) Went into PrintManager and added the printer using the parallel port,
>and setting it to be an HP-600dpi laserwriter.
>3) Set up the printer per instructions, connecting the cable to the LPT-1
>port.
>4) Rebooted.
>
Check your cmos setup for the gateway and make sure its set for lpt=ox378.
On my gateway this was LPT2!. You'll need a rasterizer for the 4P, unless
you have postscript simm!?
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which Enet card to get for NSFIP?
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 01:10:17 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <EiZWatu00iUzI=oFNb@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <374ot6$oqv@goodnews.globalcom.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Oct-94 Which Enet card
to get for .. by Patrick Giagnocavo@globa
> I am going to be putting an ethernet card in my standalone
> NSFIP machine soon...
>
> The NextAnswers says to stay away from I think the etherlink
> 16, saying that NFS performance is not good.
>
> Any goot net.helpers out there to provide me with suggestions?
Personaly, I like the Intel EtherExpress 16C (I got the Combo card for
more compatibility). It's jumperless, easy to install, and I even got
the Flash ROM (which I doubt is supported, but is really nice in DOS)
deliverd to my door for $131. I haven't had any problems with it at all
altough I'm told the combo PAS/Adaptec 1542CF/Intel EtherExpress is a
bad one.
-Leo
+----------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
| Leo Turetsky | Carnegie-Mellon University | Did you get |
| professor@cmu.edu | Sophomore, ECE\CS Double Major | your USRDA |
| NeXT Mail coming soon | Wait!? You mean that's not you? | of Vitamins |
+----------------------esp---------------------------------+ A C L M and |
| ...so you can make me cum that doesn't make you Jesus... | T today? |
+----------------------------------------------------------+-------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: Ergonomic keyboards - Re: ADB retrofit for non-ADB station? (Summary)
Message-ID: <thompsonCxALxG.8CF@netcom.com>
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
References: <36srd1$ht0@News1.mcs.com> <36tco9$5rp@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 07:53:40 GMT
Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote:
>
> After much research, I opted to get the Kinesis Ergonomic keyboard.
I just posted about the Kinesis.. it is amazing. Not only
do I type faster than before, but I can touch-type numbers.
I've used it with NS/Intel since February.
I know it sounds silly, but the Kinesis is my favorite
peripheral. I'm never going back to a regular keyboard.
Eric
--
Eric Thompson eric@saperstein.com (NeXTmail ok)
Manager of Information Systems thompson@netcom.com
Saperstein, Mayeda & Goldstein
From: amd0386@is.nyu.edu (Alam M. Donald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 8 Oct 1994 09:56:18 GMT
Organization: New York University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <375qc2$q7b@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
References: <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu> <5YPqFqSJnrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?= (kris@black.schulung.netuse.de) wrote:
: > Has anyone tried one of these dudes with NEXTSTEP? Can the
: > little "Windows" keys be used as Command keys? That would be
: > cool. :-)
: And while we are at it: Can we have replacement keycaps for
: these little "Windows"-Keys? Please?
: Kristian
: --
: Kristian Köhntopp, Harmsstraße 98, 24114 Kiel, +49 431 676689
: "666 - the file protection of the beast."
: ## CrossPoint/2 v1.21 R ##
I have had a very bad bout with RSI over the last six months or so.
Being a guitarist and programmer, my wrists and fingers take a beating
whenever I am not asleep. I experimented with many keyboards in order
to alleviate some of the on-the-job stress, and the Kinesis keyboard was the
only one that would do the trick... the others are shabby attempts at making
an entirely unnatural activity (constant typing) into a natural one... the
Microsoft keyboard especially so. If your livelihood is at stake (as mine
has been) I hope you will take a serious look at the Kinesis. I have spent
eight hundred dollars on their keyboards so far (one at home, that I'm typing
on as I write this) and one at work, and I have absolutely no regrets.
They went to great lengths to make a keyboard that was actually less
stressful to use. (See an earlier article in this newsgroup from another
satisfied Kinesis customer.) The keyboard has 2K of memory and is entirely
reprogrammable... great stuff... now if I could only get a desk chair that
isn't so hard on my back...
The information on interfacing this keyboard to the NeXT is included in the
earlier article (thanks, by the way, to its author for the very valuable
information)
amd0386@is.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: Anybody using miroCrystal 40SV or WINNER 2000PRO?
Message-ID: <1994Oct7.134338.28746@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <Cx8DDw.1zw@belly.in-berlin.de>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 13:43:38 GMT
In article <Cx8DDw.1zw@belly.in-berlin.de> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de
(Axel Habermann) writes:
> 1154x864x24 @ 64 Hz, very high NXFactor of >1.7
Hi, Axel. This is useful information, but more useful if one knows
what level of processor is driving this machine. (Did I miss that
information elsewhere in your posting?)... I assume it was a Pentium,
but which one?
In my experience with a variety of video cards, I've found very
littler difference in performance between the options, all other
factors being equal. In other words, put three different video (VRAM)
adaptors in the same motherboard, driven by the same CPU, and you
usually get very similar scores. The faster the processor and the
more efficient the motherboard/bios, the better the benchmark.
With all good wishes,
Phil
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@phoenix.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 12:40:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield
Message-ID: <941008134049.232AACUT.malc@jeeves>
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> As much as it pains me to say it, the new Microsoft ergonomic keyboard looks
> pretty cool. <sigh> I almost feel compelled to go out and buy one!
>
I too was intrigued when I first saw an ad for it...
Then I looked more closely, and read the copy.
Yet again I am disgusted.
M$ has simply copied what others have done before and claimed the invention
for itself. What I'd hoped they'd done was strike a real blow for keyboard
users everywhere and put out a Dvorak or similar key layout. Have they
bollocks.
If you want something that'll really help, look for something like the Kinesis
board (sorry, I don't have refs) which has keys laid out in a way that'll
facilitate your typing, not in a way that was designed to make it as dificult
as possible to type quickly (the design concept behind QWERTY, which
originally "ran" on mechanical typwriters which would jam at more than a
character or so a second).
Malcolm.
From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: System with 2 IDE HD's
Date: 8 Oct 1994 16:02:08 GMT
Organization: CCI Networks, a division of Corporate Computers Inc.
Message-ID: <376fq0$hk@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca>
Is is possible to have a bootmanager that allows booting off either of
two IDE HDs. I would like to have NS/I on one, and DOS/Windows on the
other.
Tim
From: Joshua_Bloch@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Strange Printer Problem
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 00:07:52 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QiZqmMeSMUYc0ORFxz@transarc.com>
My lightly-used, ~ 3 yr. old NeXT printer in on the fritz. It was
running just fine until it ran out of paper this afternoon. When I
refilled the cassette, the paper would not feed properly: it goes in
3-4 inches and stops. Then the printer reports that the paper is
jammed. I can easily remove the sheet, and open and close the top to
"clear the jam" (as far as the printer is concerned), but the problem
just repeats itself ad infinitum.
I tried power cycling the printer (w/ nppower off). When the
printer comes on, it makes a fairly nasty clunk.
This happend to the printer once before, several months ago (the
last time it ran out of paper!). At that time, I somehow convinced it
to start working again, and it worked fine for the next few months.
This time, it seems to be much more recalcitrant.
Any suggestions on how I can fix the printer? Barring that, any
suggestions on who might be able to fix it for me without charging
an arm and a leg?
Thanks,
Josh
From: kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Phone number
Message-ID: <ImUkuA1EBh108h@viamar.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 08:24:40 -0500
Organization: Private System
I'm trying to locate NeXT Computer (or whatever they are called) phone number. So far
I've had no luck, so I'm posting here. Please reply by email. Thanks.
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From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott)
Subject: Next AD64x DSP cable - help!
Message-ID: <rscottCxE6tA.3EM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 06:17:33 GMT
I've misplaced my Singular Solutions AD64x DSP cable
and I have a recording project due in 3 days. If there
is anyone in the Los Angeles area who could lend me
one for pickup on Sunday, October 9 - I would
appreciate your help. I'll be contacting Steve
Klein in Pasadena for a replacement but I doubt
it would be available on time. Otherwise I'll
begin working in analog.
Thanks in advance.
Charles Dvorak
(310) 454-8091
Pacific Palisades
PS Cable only - I have the box.
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Can someone comment about my H/W Wishlist?
In-Reply-To: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca's message of Fri, 7 Oct 1994 14:39:40 +1000
To: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct8115658@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
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References: <godwin.337.000D8D12@unixg.ubc.ca>
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 15:56:58 GMT
In article <godwin.337.000D8D12@unixg.ubc.ca> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) writes:
Gigabyte P90 MB 512 Cache and PCI/ISA
That sounds fine. 512 kByte cache is probably not going to help too
much compared to 256 kByte cache, but it is cheap and can't hurt.
32 MB 70ns Ram
That seems to be the minimum for a good system.
#9GXE Pro 4MB Vid card.....I really don't want to spend extra money on a
talus driver for the ATI;-)
Lots of people are buying it these days for NeXTstep and most are
pretty happy with it. Just make sure you have a monitor which can
handle 76 Hz in the resolution you want to run. Most, even high-end
monitors don't.
DPT PCI SCSI controller
Who has released a driver for this controller ?
Microsoft Keyboard
It looks nice and ergonomic, but who needs the sloppy Mac-like keyboard feel ?
A Segate haven't decide on the brand of HD but will be SCSI 2 one and 1 Gig
to 2 gigs
Get a Barracuda.
SB AWE 32
Has Talus released the driver for that already ?
Intel EtherExpress Pro
Yes, that seems to be the most popular Ethernet card for NS/FIP. No
point in wasting a PCI slot on something with a maximal bandwidth of
about 1 MByte/second.
Carl Edman
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From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 21:10:53 GMT
Is it possible to boot NeXT Step/Intel 3.2 from a magneto optical drive
like the Fujitsu M2511A? It would be on the Talus NCR 53c825 driver/card
combo, which I have not yet bought. I guess it would be slow, but once
booted, it's there, right? Is 128 Meg enough to boot from?
Matt
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From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: How does NS/FIP see DOS partitions?
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 21:15:22 GMT
I am interested in installing NeXT Step, but I want to have access to all
my DOS FAT partitions. I will have a primary and secondary IDE partition
(on drive c: a 525 Meg IDE), and then, I will have two partitions on my
1 Gig SCSI disk formatted for FAT. There will a NS partition on the same
SCSI disk. Then, I will have two CD-ROM (SCSI ID 3 and 4) and a 128 Meg
Fujitsu M-O drive (SCSI ID 2). I would like for NS to be able to access
the FAT files on those drives without any fuss. Is this possible? I
plan on using the Talus driver for the 53C825 Asus card.
Matt
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From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: What scanning/OCR software is there for NeXT Step/Intel?
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 21:17:11 GMT
I am thinking of moving to NeXT Step/Intel, but I would like to know what
software for scanning and oCR'ing is out there. I would like to use a
Scanjet IIp B&W scanner through the SCSI card, but I don't know if the
Talus driver supports that and what other software I need. Anyone care
to comment on what works and what doesn't?
Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: My NS/FIP success story
In-Reply-To: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com's message of 3 Oct 1994 23:14:05 GMT
To: ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct8115104@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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Distribution: World
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 15:51:03 GMT
In article <36q37t$s4@anduin.subculture> ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com writes:
In article <CEDMAN.94Sep25215739@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu
(Carl Edman) writes:
> A Dell XPS 90 (because Dell has a good reputation for both quality and
> performance without charging too much of a premium for it) mini-tower
> (to fit in all my peripherals) with a combo disk drive (because the
> upgrade to it is very inexpensive and I still sometimes need to use
> old disks) and a Lexmark keyboard (because I like the feel of those
> IBM keyboards), 32 MBytes of RAM (Dell would have charged me another
> $1.8k for another 32 MBytes) and a 540 MByte IDE harddisk (because it
> was required and I wanted to keep DOS on a separate disk anyway)
What is the average street price of that configuration?
I paid $3.5k for all of that (and three year next-day on-site
maintenance). The way the market is going it is probably going to be
only half that by now. :)
How did you avoid the Bios/IDE - SCSI conflict? Or do you boot from
the IDE NEXTSTEP and then switch to the SCSI drive?
That was one problem. So far I've dealt with it by just
disabling/enabling the IDE drive in the BIOS setup to select boot in
DOS or NeXTstep. But I'll put a NeXTstep boot partition on the IDE
drive some day in which case I can use the NeXTstep boot manager to
select the operating system. How this is done is described in
NeXTanswer 1487.
Carl Edman
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From: guy@objskill.demon.co.uk (Operator)
Subject: SyQuest SQ3270S on white ?
Message-ID: <CxEEH5.1HD@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 09:03:05 GMT
I recently read here that the removeable cartridge drive
mentioned in the title works well on black hardware. Just
before I spend some money, would the same go for white ?
I am using an Intel GX Pro with a driver for the motherboard
SCSI hardware.Other SCSI devices work well with it but I just
want to be sure.
Guy Roberts.
From: ambrosch@ping.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MICROPOLIS Drives on NeXTs--Problems?
Date: 8 Oct 1994 11:46:19 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
Message-ID: <3760qb$sl2@pong.ping.at>
References: <3712r7$uc@newsflash.mitre.org>
Originator: wa@s051
In article <3712r7$uc@newsflash.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org
(William Herndon) writes:
> I've finally come to the end of the line on my Seagate and need more
> space. Since, I've been pleased with their product quality and
> service, I'm probably going to buy a replacement drive from Alliance
> Peripheral Systems. However, the drive that I'm looking at is based
> on the Micropolis 4110 mechanism, and I seem to remember posts in
> c.s.n.h last spring that indicated that there were compatibility
> problems between NeXTs and Micropolis drives.
I am using two Micropolis drives, one 2210 1GB drive on a Motorola
NeXTStation and one 2217AV 1.7GB drive on a Intel DX4/100-PCI board. Both
drives worked flawlessly from the very first beginning, and they are
really silent compared to the older Seagate 400MB drive in my NeXTStation.
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Quantum 540MB HD
Message-ID: <CxCyt9.AK@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 14:27:08 GMT
Hi,
are there any experiences in using a Quantum "Maverick" 540MB
Harddisk in a black station? They have become really cheap here in
Germany in the last weeks.
Bye, Michael
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From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 1 GIG IDE Drive not recognized
Date: 9 Oct 1994 15:36:57 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <3792mp$bh7@news1.digex.net>
I just dumped my 340 and added a 1GB Caviar 31000 from Western Digital that I
formatted into three DOS partitions (my 540 is NeXT/DOS Boot). However, while
NeXT loved my old 340 (even though all the dada was STACKed and I couldn't see
it), it coughs over the 1GB, saying I can "ignore" or "initialize" it. It's
true that DOS needed a driver to partition and recognize it as well, and I'm
curious: is there a fix so that the NeXTSTEP side can see the DOS side like it
does on my other drive so I can use it for transferring file, supplemental
(DOOM WAD) storage.
Chris
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From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: COGENT Ethernet PCI (warning!)
Date: 9 Oct 1994 19:28:50 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <379g9i$bdd@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <41780@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
In article <374atp$d10@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich
III) writes:
> > In article <3718b9$6bi@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com
> > (Daniel J. Gamble) writes:
> > > In article <CwxzFz.Gyp@eunet.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes:
> > > --
> > >
> > > Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
> >
> > Warning! Don't try this card if you are already using the NCR PCI
SCSI,
> > either on-board or as an add-on card. You _will_ hose your system!
NS
> > 3.3 will/should fix this problem with conflicting PCI devices.
> >
> > Steve Sarich
> > Talus Imaging
> > steve@talus.com
>
>
> Now I'm worried. I've been running NEXTSTEP 3.2 on a DECpc XL-560 for
> several months now with what I believe to be exactly this configuration
-
> the NCR PCI SCSI (using the Talus Driver) and a Cogent PCI-Ethernet
using
> the NeXT driver from ftp.next.com. I've had no problems. Am I sitting on
a
> time bomb?
>
I should have clarified this a bit. I received this warning from NeXT and
it didn't come from personal experience. I'm very happy to hear that
someone is using this combination successfully. Please let us know if you
have any complications down the road. We have a potential fix for this in
the works.
Steve Sarich
steve@talus.com
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus Questions
Date: 9 Oct 1994 19:32:30 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
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References: <RALF.94Oct6205948@jodokus.en.open.de>
In article <RALF.94Oct6205948@jodokus.en.open.de> ralf@reswi.en.open.de
(Ralf E. Stranzenbach) writes:
> >>>>> "Steve" == Steve Sarich <talus.com!steve> writes:
> In article <36s2u5$hoi@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich
III) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Steve> At lot of us have had very good luck with the Intel "Plato"
> Steve> boards which use the Neptune chipset. They are PCI/ISA and
> Steve> they are the fastest ones we've tested to date. Unless you
> Steve> really _need_ EISA, this would be my first choice. I don't
> Steve> know anyone who's tested the A.I.R. board that you
> Steve> mentioned, but you should be aware that there is no 3.2
> Steve> driver for the 2940W. While there is one coming in 3.3,
> Steve> you should be aware that you're not going to be able to use
> Steve> your machine in the meantime and I don't believe that you
> Steve> can successfully disable it (and still still be able to run
> Steve> the NCR). You can try it, but I think you're asking for
> Steve> more frustration.
>
> I just spent some time with a Pentium Board named Plato P54/C (or
> something like that). It seems very stable to me, it just sometimes
> panics during bootup.
>
> This board has an IDE, two serial and one parallel port. But
> unfortunately the system ("onboard serial" and MUX-driver) dislikes
> the serial ports. Is there anything to do ? These ports should work,
> because they are build using the same chip as the cheapo 1655[20]
> serial cards i use.
>
> - ralf
Check the bios rev you're using. Earlier revs had serious serial problems
that appear to be fixed in the latest bios. We hope to have a better
serial solution for you in the not too distant future.
Steve Sarich
steve@talus.com
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
Date: 9 Oct 1994 21:37:15 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
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References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008170746.17514A-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
Originator: wa@s051
In article
<Pine.SUN.3.90.941008170746.17514A-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> Matt
Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> writes:
> Is it possible to boot NeXT Step/Intel 3.2 from a magneto optical drive
> like the Fujitsu M2511A? It would be on the Talus NCR 53c825
driver/card
> combo, which I have not yet bought. I guess it would be slow, but once
> booted, it's there, right? Is 128 Meg enough to boot from?
I have succesfully booted NeXTStep from various devices including
diskettes (just the recovery system, of course), CD-ROMS, magneto-optical
drives (Sony) and a lot of different hard-disks. In principle this should
work withouth problems as long as the drive itself (which I did not try)
works with NeXTStep.
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From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: External hard drive enclosures (for black non-turbo cube)
Date: 9 Oct 1994 22:23:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <379qh1$cmp@agate.berkeley.edu>
I was wondering what kind of experiences people out there have had with some
external SCSI hard drive enclosures. Specifically, enclosures from vendors who
are still making them, preferably in black, not modified Mac ones and the like.
Is there a vendor out there who will guarantee their work, and is easy to deal
with?
Thanks for any responses!
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From: gerti@BITart.com (Gerd Knops)
Subject: SyQuest 270MB and 1024 Bytes/Sector
Message-ID: <CxFDJB.nB@BITart.com>
Sender: usenet@BITart.com
Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 21:40:22 GMT
Did anybody succeed to format the SyQuest 270 MB medias with 1024 Bytes/Sector? It worked
on the old 44MB drives, but so far I had no luck with the 270's.
gerti
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EtherExpress Pro Adapter PCLA8225
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 94 19:10:08 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <JS40BLI.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <CxAw16.17n@nntpa.cb.att.com>
felix:
we couldn't get it to work, and I now see that a driver upgrade is in the
works for 3.3
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From: juergen@knuelli.in-berlin.de (Juergen Gebhardt)
Subject: Unknown SCSI errors ...
Message-ID: <1994Oct9.171720.601@knuelli.in-berlin.de>
Sender: juergen@knuelli.in-berlin.de
Organization: FTE
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 17:17:20 GMT
Hi,
does anyone knows what this messages mean:
Oct 9 15:43:32 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 410baH retry
1
Oct 9 15:45:12 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 3fbf4H retry
1
Oct 9 15:45:59 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 410c5H retry
1
Oct 9 15:46:00 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 410c6H retry
1
Oct 9 15:46:00 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 410c3H retry
1
Oct 9 15:46:00 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 410c4H retry
1
Oct 9 15:46:52 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 410c6H retry
1
All harddiscs (1GB Fujitsu, 420 MB Seagate) are ok (tested at a friends
NeXT) and fsck and reformat doesn't change anything?! It seems that these
messages only appear during writing ...
Thanx for any hint
Juergen
PS: Configuration: Turbo Cube color with Dimension board, 32 MB.
Oct 9 17:19:27 knuelli mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0
at 0x2014000
Oct 9 17:19:27 knuelli mach: FUJITSU M2694S-1024 Rev 0124 as sd0 at
sc0 target 1 lun 0
Oct 9 17:19:27 knuelli mach: Disk Label: willy
Oct 9 17:19:27 knuelli mach: Disk Capacity 1094MB, Device Block
1024 bytes
Oct 9 17:19:27 knuelli mach: SEAGATE ST1480 Rev 5736 as sd1 at sc0
target 2 lun 0
Oct 9 17:19:27 knuelli mach: Disk Label: willy
Oct 9 17:19:27 knuelli mach: Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block
512 bytes
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
Message-ID: <CxFqCH.Dsq@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008170746.17514A-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 02:19:20 GMT
Matt Webster (gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu) wrote:
: Is it possible to boot NeXT Step/Intel 3.2 from a magneto optical drive
: like the Fujitsu M2511A? It would be on the Talus NCR 53c825 driver/card
: combo, which I have not yet bought. I guess it would be slow, but once
: booted, it's there, right? Is 128 Meg enough to boot from?
I imagine it is so if it has SCSI ID 0 or 1, Matt. I'm getting ready
to buy a 256MB MO, and plan to have the ability to boot to it, via the
floppy, just as I can to the CD-ROM.
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>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: better, nicer keyboard needed
Date: 9 Oct 1994 22:53:07 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37aaaj$goa@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <3729ik$4fi@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Nathan F. Janette writes
> -> Hi, I have a NeXTStation TurboColor and use its standard
> -> keyboard, but after about a year of heavy use, I am
> -> starting to develop strong pain in my finger junctions.
>
> -> Is there a soft touch keyboard that is compatible with
> -> this next? I will like to use or try other keyboards.
>
> If your system is ADB, or you convert to ADB, you could
> use some latter Mac keyboards. Actually, the NeXT ADB
> keyboard is softer than the older keyboard as well.
Earlier in this thread, I had said that the Kinesis keyboard would
not work on the HP, because of problems in the NS driver... This information
came from NeXTanswers, which says that PS/2 style keyboards don't work under
HP/PA-Risc
I've been told by someone at Lighthouse Design that that keyboard does
work under NS/HP on a 712 just fine!
That means that we now have first hand confirmation for all three
versions of NS that they Kinesis keyboard is compatible.
Thanks to Rob at Lighthouse for setting me straight!
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From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Anybody using miroCrystal 40SV or WINNER 2000PRO?
Message-ID: <CxFJ2G.7uC@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <1994Oct7.134338.28746@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 23:39:52 GMT
In article <1994Oct7.134338.28746@Princeton.EDU>
gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
> In article <Cx8DDw.1zw@belly.in-berlin.de> kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de
> (Axel Habermann) writes:
> > 1154x864x24 @ 64 Hz, very high NXFactor of >1.7
>
> Hi, Axel. This is useful information, but more useful if one knows
> what level of processor is driving this machine. (Did I miss that
> information elsewhere in your posting?)... I assume it was a Pentium,
> but which one?
Ohh, sorry. I seem to have plainly forgotten to tell...
It's a 66 MHz Pentium PCI (ASUS Motherboard).
Axel
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: smh@netserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NWBench.app scores
Date: 10 Oct 1994 06:12:54 GMT
Organization: NetServices
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37am16$1mm@raptor.netserv.com>
References: <371qkg$pmr@xmission.xmission.com>
First, a couple of comments.
The test must occur all at once, and not by running each item individually.
NWBench gave unreliable results by rerunning each test on it's own.
The disk test defaults to the 'cooked' device /dev/sd1a and should default to
the 'raw' device to give a more accurate reading, /dev/rsd1a.
The ethernet test can be slowed by DNS lookups. I ended up using the discrete
IP address for a realistic number.
The Postscript speed test doubles D-V for 32 bit modes while V-V remains about
the same. Different Desktop sizes don't affect the numbers, just the bit
depth.
MIPS: 92.464127
PostScript speed: D-V: 28.096 V-V: 6.512
Ethernet speed: 695.165367
Disk read speed: 1733.828703
Webster benchmark: 23.913017
Compile: 34.094265
Name of System: Intel Premiere II Plato
CPU Speed: P54-100
Disk Subsystem: Adaptec 1542CF + Micropolis 2217AV
LAN Adaptor: Intel EtherExpress
Graphics Card and Resolution: Stealth 64 PCI 4MB, 1280x1024 @ 16 bit
"Kernel Flags" = "";
"Instance" = "0";
"Active Drivers" = "SerialPorts SerialMouse EtherExpress16
ProAudioSpectrum DiamondStealth64DisplayDriver";
"Kernel" = "mach_kernel";
"Language" = "English";
"Install Mode" = "No";
"Version" = "2.0";
"Boot Graphics" = "Yes";
"Boot Drivers" = "PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B Floppy";
MICROP 2217-15MQ1005104
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
Message-ID: <bchin.781719748@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008170746.17514A-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 16:22:28 GMT
Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> writes:
>Is it possible to boot NeXT Step/Intel 3.2 from a magneto optical drive
>like the Fujitsu M2511A? It would be on the Talus NCR 53c825 driver/card
>combo, which I have not yet bought. I guess it would be slow, but once
>booted, it's there, right? Is 128 Meg enough to boot from?
PC's generally don't know how to boot from removable SCSI devices. You
might be able to do this if your SCSI controller allows you to treat
removable devices as non-removable hard drives. I don't know if NCR
allows this (it has to be able to do it in BIOS, because this is going
to occur before any drivers load). You may have to end up kick starting
from a specially prepared floppy or small partition on your hard drive.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Can someone comment about my H/W Wishlist?
Message-ID: <bchin.781719978@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <godwin.337.000D8D12@unixg.ubc.ca> <CEDMAN.94Oct8115658@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 16:26:18 GMT
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>In article <godwin.337.000D8D12@unixg.ubc.ca> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) writes:
> Gigabyte P90 MB 512 Cache and PCI/ISA
>That sounds fine. 512 kByte cache is probably not going to help too
>much compared to 256 kByte cache, but it is cheap and can't hurt.
Actually, in benchmarks, the 512kbyte cache Intel systems beat 256k byte
cache systems... it is unclear however, if this is directly attributable
to the cache increase or if this translates to NEXTSTEP. A bunch of the
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* people have noticed that P90's have awful
L2 <-> main memory bandwidth, and an increased L2 cache may help make
up for this.
>Get a Barracuda.
Make sure you have adequate cooling!!! Adding in a fan or two may
be necessary if you are putting this drive inside your computer case.
I know people have put this drive in its own special hi-flow cases.
> Intel EtherExpress Pro
^^^
>Yes, that seems to be the most popular Ethernet card for NS/FIP. No
>point in wasting a PCI slot on something with a maximal bandwidth of
>about 1 MByte/second.
Has anyone gotten the Pro, as opposed to just the 16 or 16C to work?
Benchmarks have shown that the Cogent PCI is much faster than the
Intel EtherExpress, which in turn is the fastest ISA ethernet controller
for NEXTSTEP. Therefore, if ethernet performance is important to you,
it's not "wasting" a PCI slot. Pure bandwidth is not the only concern
when measuring performance. On the other hand, if you are using it
only to access the Web, then you may not want to spend the extra
money or take up the PCI slot.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: ups@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.admin,comp.answers,news.answers
Subject: Uninterruptible Power Source FAQ
Followup-To: comp.misc
Date: 10 Oct 1994 12:09:08 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37bat4$8o5@phoebe.jpl.nasa.gov>
Summary: Answers to FAQs about Uninteruptable Power Sources (UPS)
Originator: root@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Archive-name: UPS-faq
Version: 1.6
Uninteruptable Power Source (UPS) FAQ.
VERSION 1.5, July 8, 1994.
Sections:
01: What is this document all about?
01: What is this document?
02: How is this document made available?
03: Who maintains this?
04: Where did this information come from?
05: How can I contribute?
06: How may this document be distributed?
07: Got anything else you'd like to add?
08: Glossary.
02: What is a UPS and how does is work?
01: What is a UPS?
02: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
03: Vendor X says that (description) is a UPS, is it?
04: Describe the types of UPS's?
05: How can a UPS help me?
06: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
07: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running?
08: What is a "good" UPS?
09: Support contracts on UPS's.
10: Self maintenance tips.
11: Is a UPS a glorified power strip?
03: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
01: Can a UPS shut the computer down when power is low?
02: Can I write my own shutdown routines?
03: What freely distributable solutions are there?
04: No UPS software works on my machines, what to do?
04: How big a UPS do I need?
01: How are UPS sizes determined?
02: What VA rating do I need?
03: How do I determine this?
04: What else should I consider?
05: Can I use an UPS with a laser printer?
06: What UPS sizes do you use on what equipment?
05: Specific manufacturer's info.
01: What vendors are there?
06: Acknowledgments
-----------------------------
01:
TOPIC: What is this document all about?
01.01
Q: What is this document?
A: This is a FAQ document on Uninteruptable Power Sources. It is
intended to provide a starting point for those people that want
to find out what they are, what they do, and what's available.
01.02
Q: How is this document made available?
A: Currently, its "home" is comp.misc. It is also crossposted to
comp.unix.admin, comp.sys.sun.hardware, comp.sys.hp.hardware,
comp.sys.sgi.hardware, comp.sys.next.hardware,
comp.sys.ibm.hardware, comp.sys.dec, comp.answers and
news.answers. This posting is automated and will occur on or
near the 10th of each month. If there are other groups to
which this document should be posted, please let me know, but
if I post it to every group where UPS questions get asked, that
would be a lot of groups. I'm open to suggestions.
This document is also available via anonymous FTP. The master
sits on navigator.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.23.82) in pub/doc/faq
as the file UPS.faq. It is also available via anonymous FTP
from rtfm.mit.edu in:
pub/usenet-by-group/comp.misc/Uninteruptable_Power_Source_FAQ
01.03
Q: Who maintains this?
A: Right now, this document is maintained by Nick Christenson. My
preferred email address is npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov, and I
would like it very much if questions regarding this document
could have the word "UPS or UPS FAQ" or some such in the Subject
line. Note: I am maintaining this on my own time, so please
don't be upset if it takes a while for me to respond to your
queries. Also none of the information in here represents the
views or has the blessing of any organization whatsoever. The
maintainer of the FAQ is to be held solely responsible for its
contents.
01.04
Q: Where did this information come from?
A: Thankfully, many people have rallied to my cry to fill in
the many gaps in my original draft. This is now a group work,
although I claim full responsibility for misstatements and
inaccuracies.
01.05
Q: How can I contribute?
A: You should mail new information, corrections, suggestions, etc.
to the current maintainer of this FAQ. If you provide a suggestion,
make sure you reference where the information is located in the
document. I guarantee that suggestions of the form "Change the
word 'always' to 'almost always' in the part about surge suppression."
will be ignored.
01.06
Q: Are there any restrictions on distribution of this document?
A: This document is copyright by the author. You are encouraged
to distribute this document for any non-commercial purpose
as long as the contents remain unchanged. And a pointer to
an up-to-date version is included.
01.07
Q: Got anything else you'd like to add?
A: Yes, now that you mention it. The people who contribute to this
document can speak only about equipment they have experience with.
This may reflect a bias toward or against certain brands, features,
functions, etc.. Please keep in mind that the suggestions, brand
names and functions here are by no means exhaustive, or even
necessarily applicable to your situation. Also, if you have
information that is not in this document, please submit it to
the maintainer listed above. If you submit information, please
say whether you'd like it to be attributed to you or not. I am
more than glad to give credit to the fine people who helped with
this document, but I want to respect the anonymity of those
people who would prefer it.
01.08
Q: Glossary
A: This was contributed almost entirely by some kind soul. I just
cleaned it up a bit.
Blackout: Complete loss of power. Some literature considers a voltage
drop below about 80V to be a blackout as well since most
equipment will not operate below these levels.
Sag or Brownout: Decrease in voltage levels which can last for
periods ranging from fractions of a second to hours. Can be
caused by heavy equipment coming on line such as shop tools,
elevators, compressors etc. Also occurs when utility companies
deliberately do this to cope with peak load times.
Spike: An instantaneous and tremendous increase in voltage often
caused by a direct lightning strike on a power line or when
power returns after a blackout.
Surge: An substantial increase in voltage lasting a small fraction
of a second, often caused when high powered appliances such as
air conditioners are switched off.
EMI/RFI Noise: ElectroMagnetic Interference and Radio Frequency
Interference. Caused by, inter alia, lightning, generators,
radio transmitters, industrial equipment.
MOV: Metal Oxide Varistors used to control spikes. These are
common in Power Strips. If you see more than two, you likely
have a fairly decent Power Strip. They look like largish disk
capacitors.
Inverter: Circuitry that converts DC battery power to AC power
required by most computer equipment.
Surge Protector: Circuitry consisting of MOVs, capacitors, rod-core
inductors etc. for suppressing surges and spikes usually embedded
in a power strip.
Line Conditioner: A transformer that attempts to smooth out
fluctuations in input voltage to provide near uniform output
voltage or voltage waveform.
02.01
Q: What is a UPS?
A: An Uninteruptable Power Source is a device that sits between
a power supply (e.g. a wall outlet) and a device (e.g. a computer)
to prevent power outages from the supply from adversely affecting
the performance of the device.
02.02
Q: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
A: I pronounce it "ups", but most of the literature seems to favor
"you pee ess", since they use "a UPS" instead of "an UPS". This
document will try to follow the literature.
02.03
Q: Vendor X says that (fill in description) is a UPS, but it's
different that what you describe above. Who's right?
A: There really is no standard definition of what a UPS is.
Anything ranging from a 9 volt battery backup in a clock radio
to a building/compound wide backup generator has been called
a UPS by someone. The majority of this document refers to
objects larger than a beer can and smaller than a desk that
help devices remain temporarily operational when changes to the
power they receive would otherwise interrupt their function.
Maintaining power to a minicomputer (like a VAX 11) is beyond
the scope of this document. This FAQ deals with UPS equipment
that can be installed by a computer owner/administrator If you
have requirements that large, you need to talk to a qualified
electrician.
02.04
Q: Can you give me some more information on this?
A: (Kindly provided by Don Deal, Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu, my additions
are in [square brackets] )
The UPS industry is made up of many manufacturers, and there is
a lack of standard terms within the industry. I think this
sometimes borders on deliberate misdirection. (It's a jungle out
there!)
There are basically three different types of devices, all of
which are occasionally passed off as UPSs.
1. Standby power supply (SPS). In this type of supply, power is
usually derived from directly from the power line, until power
fails. After power failure, a battery powered inverter turns on
to continue supplying power. Batteries are charged, as necessary,
when line power is available. This type of supply is sometimes
called an "offline" UPS.
The quality and effectiveness of this class of devices varies
considerably; however, they are generally quite a bit cheaper than
"true" UPSs. The time required for the inverter to come online,
typically called the switchover time, varies by unit. While some
computers may be able to tolerate long switchover times, your
mileage may vary. [Some articles in the trade press have claimed
that their testing shows that modern PCs can withstand transfer
times of 100ms or more. Most UPS units claim a transfer time to
battery of about 4ms.]
Other features to look for in this class of supplies is line
filtering and/or other line conditioners. Since appliances
connected to the supply are basically connected directly from
the power line, SPSs provide relatively poor protection from
line noise, frequency variations, line spikes, and brownouts.
[Some SPS's claim to have surge/spike suppression circuitry as
well as transformers to "boost" voltage without switching to
the battery if a modest voltage drop occurs. An example is the
"APC Smart UPS" which claims it will switch to this boosting mode
if voltage drops below 103V (from the normal expected 120V) and
switches to battery only at 90V and below. This, it is claimed,
allows operation of the equipment indefinitely under brownout
conditions as long as voltage does not drop below 90V. I have
not tested this, and would be interested in independent data.
There are other vendors products that make similar claims.]
2. Hybrid UPS systems. I only know one vendor who sells them -
Best Power, Inc. The theory behind these devices is fairly simple.
When normal operating line power is present, the supply conditions
power using a ferroresonant transformer. This transformer maintains
a constant output voltage even with a varying input voltage and
provides good protection against line noise. The transformer also
maintains output on its secondary briefly when a total outage occurs.
Best claims that their inverter then goes online so quickly that
it is operating without any interruption in power. Other UPS
vendors maintain that the transition is less than seamless, but
then again it's not in their best interest to promote Best's products.
Best has a sizable part of the UPS market.
[ Note: According to some sources, ferroresonant transformers in an
UPS system can interact with ferroresonant transformers in your
equipment and produce unexpected results. The Moral: Again, test
before you buy. -npc ]
3. What I call "true" UPS systems, those supplies that continuously
operate from an inverter. Obviously, there is no switchover time,
and these supplies generally provide the best isolation from power
line problems. The disadvantages to these devices are increased
cost, increased power consumption, and increased heat generation.
Despite the fact that the inverter in a "true" UPS is always on,
the reliability of such units does not seem to be affected. In
fact, we have seen more failures in cheaper SPS units.
02.05
Q: How can it help me?
A: An UPS has internal batteries to guarantee that continuous power
is provided to the equipment even if the power supply stops
providing power. Of course the UPS can provide power for a while,
typically a few minutes, but that is often enough to ride out
power company glitches or short outages.
Advantages:
1) Computer jobs don't stop because the power fails.
2) Users not inconvenienced by computer shutting down.
3) Equipment does not incur the stress of another (hard)
power cycle.
4) Data isn't lost because a machine shut down without
doing a "sync" or equivalent to flush cached or
real time data.
02.06
Q: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
A: An UPS traditionally can perform the following functions:
1) Absorb relatively small power surges.
2) Smooth out noisy power sources.
3) Continue to provide power to equipment during line sags.
4) Provide power for some time after a blackout has occurred.
In addition, some UPS or UPS/software combinations provide the
following functions:
1) Automatic shutdown of equipment during long power
outages.
2) Monitoring and logging of the status of the power supply.
3) Display the Voltage/Current draw of the equipment.
4) Restart equipment after a long power outage.
5) Display the voltage currently on the Line.
6) Provide alarms on certain error conditions.
7) Provide short circuit protection.
02.07
Q: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running after the power
goes?
A: How big a UPS do you have and what kind of equipment does it
protect? For most typical computer workstations, one might
have a UPS that was rated to keep the machine alive through
a 15 minute power loss. If you need a machine to survive
hours without power should probably look at a more robust
power backup solution. Even if a UPS has a very small load,
it must still operate it's DC (battery) to AC converter,
which costs power. A rough extrapolation from APC's
documentation, leads me to guess that a 2000 VA UPS can
operate it's own converter (with no extra load) for just
over 8 hours. A 1250 VA UPS could run its converter for
about 5. These are *very* rough guesses based on information
provided by one vendor for one vendor.
2.08
Q: Given the same vendor claims, how can I tell a "good" quality
UPS from a "poor" quality UPS?
A: Testing, testing, testing. I can't emphasize this enough. There
are many good and bad units out there that call themselves UPS's.
Caveat Emptor.
Some properties you might look for are:
1) Sinusoidal power output. In general, the closer the AC output
of the UPS is to a sine wave, the better it is for your equipment.
Many UPS units, especially the cheaper ones, deviate a great
deal from a sinusoidal output. Some of them generate square
waves. Don't buy these, period, they can cause serious damage
to your equipment.
2) Does the UPS have a manual bypass switch? If the UPS is
broken or is being serviced, can you pass power through it to
your equipment? The last thing you want is for a broken UPS to
be the cause of extra downtime.
3) The more information about a UPS's operation you can get from
watching the unit itself, the better. How much power (or
percentage load) the equipment is drawing, how much battery
life is left and indications of the input power quality are
all very useful.
4) Some newer UPS's can communicate with their monitoring software
via network connection and SNMP! This is wonderful *if* your
network is on a UPS! Also, beware, I have heard of dealers
advertising "Network UPS" monitoring where the network is
the normal serial connection (no SLIP or PPP).
5) Does the UPS vendor offer support/maintenance contracts. If
they don't even offer them, I would suspect the quality of the
equipment.
If you do have a UPS that does not output a sinusoidal waveform,
some manufacturers *strongly* urge you to not put a surge protector
between the UPS and the computer. The surge protector might mistake
the non-sine waveform as a power surge and try to send it to ground.
This could be bad for your UPS. I don't know if this has happened
or not, but I wouldn't chance it.
02.09
Q: Should I make sure I have a support/maintenance contract for my
UPS systems?
A: Some people strongly recommend this, but to be honest, I don't
know how important it is. I haven't had any UPS's long enough
to have enough of them fail to know what the failure modes are
likely to be. Some people, with more experience than I in these
matters, insist that a UPS support/maintenance contract is as
important as your computer support/maintenance contract. I can't
argue with them. In any case, it's almost certainly worth
pricing at any rate.
02.10
Q: What sort of maintenance can I perform myself?
A: One good thing you might want to do is periodically test the
UPS's and their failure modes. A good time to do this might be
right after after a periodic level 0 backup. Nobody is logged
in and you've got full backups of the machines. Pull the plug
on the UPS to simulate and outage and see how the transition
goes. Those UPS units that use lead-acid batteries (that's
most of them, I'm told) do not have a battery memory and should
be run dry as few times as possible. It's probably not a bad
investment to do this once on one UPS to learn how much UPS
time you can expect in a real power outage. Note: depending on
the manufacturer, UPS batters can be expected to last between
about 1 and 5 years before they need to be replaced.
It might be useful to install a GFI (Ground Fault Interruptor)
socket to facilitate this testing without having to pull the plug.
These are the sockets found in most modern kitchens and
bathrooms with a red and a black button. You push the latter to
cut power and the former to restore power.
02.11
Q: Isn't a UPS just a glorified power strip/surge protector with
some batteries and a little power conditioning thrown in?
A: Basically. It's also got a power inverter and some other circuitry.
It may also have a timer, thermometer or other gadgets.
03:
TOPIC: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
03.01
Q: If the power is out for a long time, I would like to have my
computer automatically shut itself down gracefully before the
UPS batteries die. Can I do this?
A: Yes. Most UPS manufacturers support software that will do this
for some UPS's on at least some platforms. Ask your UPS vendor
for details.
03.02
Q: How does it work, I'm a starving (fill in the blank) and I really
don't want to pay for software unless I absolutely have to.
A: Usually, there is a serial connection running from a UPS into
your computer. The UPS sends information along the serial line
as it goes. If you can decode which pins contain which information,
how the information is formatted and figure out what it wants to
hear from the computer side, you're all set. Make sure you have
the right serial cable and know how the pins map between DB9 and
DB25 as both your computer and your UPS may take either.
Since UPS units with network based monitoring capabilities are
appearing on the market, we can hopefully get something that will
communicate with those units.
Here is a skeleton script provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com.
Definitely check this out as a starting point, but don't expect
it to do anything meaningful without some work.
---------start upsd.sh-------------
#! /bin/sh
# Shut down system in case of extended power failure
# This should be the serial port to which the UPS is connected
# This port must be set to block on open until the DCD line
# is asserted - many UNIX systems have this determined by
# the minor device number, if not, see if there is some way
# to enable this behavior on your system
PORT=/dev/ttya
# Ok, this should block until there is a power failure
: > $PORT
# If we reach this point, we've lost power
wall << EOF
The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!
EOF
# call shutdown (or init or whatever)
exec shutdown
-----------end--------------------
03.03
Q: Hmmm... that sounds kinda complicated. Has someone already done
this?
A: Any solution would almost certainly be vendor specific. However,
some brave souls have provided partial functionality for certain
vendors' UPS's. I don't know the original source, but I have a
copy available for anonymous FTP at navigator.jpl.nasa.gov in
the pub/src/upsd directory. I haven't tried it and I don't
honestly know if it even works.
Note: Different UPS's produce different sorts of signals. Just
installing this already built package may require a great deal of
work. The cabling can be complicated, etc.. I would be
interested in hearing where this software does/doesn't work.
03.04
Q: I can't find monitoring software that will work on my configuration.
What should I do?
A: Well, it seems you have a few choices:
1) Build your own. See item 03.02.
2) Use something freely distributable. See item 03.03.
3) Lean on your UPS vendor to port to your platform.
4) Try a different vendor that supports your platform.
See item 05.01.
04:
TOPIC: How big a UPS do I need?
04.01
Q: How are the "sizes" of UPS's determined?
A: Typically, a UPS has a VA rating. The VA rating is the maximum
number of Volts * Amps it can deliver. The VA rating is not the
same as the power drain (in Watts) of the equipment. Computers
are notoriously non-resistive. A typical PF (power factor:
Watts/VA) for workstations may be as low as 0.6, which means that
if you record a drain of 100 Watts, you need a UPS with a VA
rating of 167. Some literature suggests that 0.7 may be a
good conversion factor, but this will depend heavily on the
machine. WARNING: Don't take my word for it! Note: Some UPS's
can continue to deliver power if the VA rating is exceeded, they
merely can't provide above their VA rating if the power goes.
Some can't provide power above their VA rating at all. Some may
do something really nasty if you try. In any case, I *strongly*
recommend not doing this under *any* circumstances.
04.02
Q: How can I tell what VA rating I need for my equipment?
A: First, when possible, get VA rather than wattage ratings. See
Q04.01 above.
There are a couple of ways:
1) Direct measurement. You can get equipment to measure
the current draw of your equipment directly. You may
or may not have access to this. If you are part of an
organization that has it's own facilities/electrical
type people, they're likely to be able to do this. They
might help you out if you ask nice.
2) Compare notes. If you know someone with the same setup
you're using, ask them what they use and how close they
are to the maximum VA rating.
3) Use a chart. Most vendors can help you out for common
equipment. If you have an unusual setup, or a mix
vendors a lot, you're probably out of luck here.
4) Use the equipment rating. Most pieces of computer
equipment have a power rating on some back panel. This
number is usually high, as it is necessary for the
manufacturer to play it safe or they'll get sued.
Note: Method 1 is by far the best, method 2 and 3 are secondary,
method 4 is usually overkill, but pretty safe. There are some
examples in section 4.6, but the information is probably worth
what you paid for it :-)
04.03
Q: Hmmm... seems like a tough thing to determine.
A: Yeah, it can be. It's also very important. If you get a UPS
that's too big, then your equipment can survive a longer outage.
If you get a UPS that's too small, then you could be in deep
trouble. Therefore, I recommend that you be conservative in
buying these things, unfortunately, this costs money.
04.04
Q: What else should I consider?
A: It would be nice to know how long your site's typical power
outages are. In some places, with nice weather and a flakey
power grid, the power is almost never out for more than 5 minutes,
but this could happen quite frequently. In this case, you may
as well use a UPS with a VA rating close to your equipment
rating with no extra batteries. If your area has longer outages,
in the half hour or hour range, as is often the case in
thunderstorm country, you can either buy UPS's with multiples
of the VA rating of the equipment, since oversizing a VA rating
for a UPS has the effect of lengthening the amount of time your
equipment can stay up in case of a power outage, or you can buy
additional battery units for a smaller UPS. You can probably
get away with doing simple math to determine how much longer a
larger UPS will keep your equipment running, but I recommend
running a few tests before committing to a large purchase
order. Also, your UPS vendor will almost certainly be glad
to help you size the equipment you need. If all else fails
and you guess wrong, or move equipment to a location with
different power status, you may be really, really glad if you
bought a UPS that can have additional battery packs added.
04.05
Q: How about I use one of these UPS thingies for a laser printer?
A: Don't *ever* do this. If you ever measured the current draw
of a laser printer during startup (and during printing) you'd
be stunned at what it pulls. All UPS manufacturers I know of
tell you not to do this.
04.06
Q: So, what sorts of UPS sizes do you use on your equipment?
A: BIG DISCLAIMER. I disclaim everything about these figures.
At best, they are very, very rough. Heck, I may be lying.
Don't trust them. Here they are anyway.
400 VA:
Sparc 2 with 3 600 MB disks, 1 200 MB disk, 1 exabyte 8200
tape drive, 19" color monitor.
600 VA:
HP 750 with 4 1.3 GB disks, internal 4mm tape drive and internal
CD-ROM drive, external disk cabinet and 19" color monitor.
500 VA:
SPARC 2GX clone. 1 1.2 GB disk, 4 2.0 GB disks, 2 tape drives,
1 CD-ROM drive, "big" monitor.
300 VA:
Sparc 2 clone with 100W power supply, internal 424 disk, 16"
color monitor, external 1 GB disk drive.
05:
TOPIC: Specific manufacturer's information.
05.01
Q: What vendors are there and what do they produce?
A: Here is a very incomplete list, based only on what I know.
Please give me information to expand it. I make no claims
as to the accuracy of this information. It is mostly based
on personal recommendations and vendor propoganda.
Company: APC, American Power Conversion
US Address: 132 Fairgrounds Road
P.O. Box 278
West Kingston, RI 02892
FR Address: 4, rue Ste Claire Deville
Zac du Mandinet-Batiment Espace
LOGNES
77447 MARNE LA VALLEE Cedex 2
FRANCE
US & CAN Phone: 1-800-800-4272
Europe Phone: (+33) 1.64.62.59.00
World Wide Phone: (401) 789-5735
Email: none known
UPS Products:
Smart UPS in sizes up to 2000 VA. The Smart UPS's do
monitoring and can shutdown multiple machines using the
PowerChute software. I recommend putting these on
computers. SNMP adaptor can be installed.
Back UPS same as Smart UPS except that you cannot
communicate interactively with the UPS and it will not
support SNMP. I recommend putting these on dumb equipment
like network equipment, X Terminals and Macintoshes (sorry,
I couldn't resist.)
Matrix UPS a modular "fault-tolerant" system. Any
module, except the insulation unit, can be "hot-swapped"
at any time. Also additional battery modules can be added,
again, while the system is running. SNMP adaptor can be
installed.
Software:
PowerChute, PowerChute PLUS. They produce it themselves.
Supported on: SunOS, HP-UX, SCO, AIX, AT&T UNIX,
Interactive UNIX, XENIX, and probably others by now.
Contributed by:
APC information contributed by Nick Christenson,
npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov without consultation with
APC. Additional information provided by Joe Moss,
joe@morton.rain.com. I have no affiliation with APC
except as a satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: Best Power Technology, Inc.
P.O. Box 280
Necedah, WI 54646-9899
US Phone: 1-800-356-5794
Email: None known
UPS Products:
FERRUPS: Ferroresonant-Based, Line-Interactive UPS, sizes
from 500 VA - 18 KVA.
Features: Standard power features, serial line
communications, runtime monitoring, logging,
automatic shutdown with optional software, user
configurable.
FORTRESS: Advanced, line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 360
VA - 2 KVA.
PATRIOT: Low-Cost Standby Power Systems, 250 VA - 850 VA.
Contributed by: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
------------------------
Company: Emerson Electric Co., Computer Power Div.
US Address: 9650 Jeronimo Road
Irvine, CA 92718, USA
UK Address: Elgin Drive, Swindon
Wiltshire SN2-6DX, England
FR Address: 8, Rue de l'Esterel
Silic 502
94623 Rungis Cedex
France
IT Address: SICE S.p.A. [Note national Name!]
Via Rossini 6
20098 San Giuliano Milanese
Italy
US Phone: 1-800-BACKUPS
UK Phone: +44 458 841898
FR Phone: +33 146 862336
EMail: n/a
Products:
Accupower GOLD Series:
UPSes for 750, 1000, 1500, 2100 VA, the latter with
external Batt Pack. Connector for {Power,Accu}Mon S/W.
5 yr Batt Life. Good Display (3 Status LEDs, Load
and Batt Charge LED Bargraphs). Switches positioned
wrong (Main Power Switch on Front, Batt Check/Alarm
off on Back - I'ld prefer them the other Way 'round).
other UPSes?
PowerMon Software:
Triggers for Outage, long Outage, Batt low. Uses one
serial Connector. Logging and Warnings to Users.
Requires special Cable (included in PowerMon Kit).
NOTE: The "Batt low" Trigger does not work "on SunOS
4.1.1 and above due to OS Limitations". >:-C I don't
know whether this includes Solaris 2.x.
AccuMon Software:
Reported to support all Kinds of fancy Communication
Items (gathering Power Line and internal UPS Data,
test Batt Cap periodically and announce Batt Aging,
switch off UPS on Computer Command, Logging Facili-
ties for all these Functions)
Other Software?
Contributed by: Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
who has no relation to Emerson.
------------------------
Company: Easy Options IBM Corporation
Address: IBM Corporations
Easy Options
Dept. WC3J
P.O. Box 2150
Atlanta, Ga 30301-9948
US Phone: Unknown.
UPS Products:
UPS ranging from 250 VA to 600 VA with surge and noise suppression.
Sine wave output, Test/Alarm, etc..
These UPS's come with an insurance policy. If your UPS damages
your systems, they'll pay you up to $25,000.
Software:
Works with APC's PowerChute software.
I doubt that IBM is making their own UPS's rather than repackaging
someone elses, but I'll be glad to post a correction if they are.
Contributed by: Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
who has no relation to IBM, or Easy Options except as
a satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: Clary Corporation
Address: Clary Corporations
320 W Clary Ave
San Gabriel, CA 91776
US Phone: 818 287-6111
UPS Products:
I'm not sure of the entire line, but their PC series includes
UPS ranging from 400 VA to 1500 VA with surge and noise
suppression. Voltage regulation to 3%, frequency to 1 Hz,
RS232 signal output, LED load and charge indicators.
Sine wave output, Alarm, etc..
Contributed by: Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com who has no relation
to Clary Corporation except as a user.
------------------------
Company: Advanced Electronic Systems, Inc.
2005 Lincoln Way East
Chambersburg, PA 17201
US Phone: 1-800-345-1280
Email: None known
UPS Products:
Stediwatt UPS: Designed specifically for use with NeXTSTEP.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Also on the NeXTSTEP front, there is a company called BenaTong (?)
which sells a software package called PowerGuardian for NeXTSTEP
only. It will work with APC, TrippLite and UNISON UPS's. If,
for example, you call APC and ask for PowerChute for NeXT, they
will refer you to Power Guardian.
Contributed by: Chuck Bennett, (chuck@benatong.com) who works
for this company.
Also for NeXTstep, Max Hailperin wrote a package for monitoring
Best Fortress UPS units called GACUPS. It consists of a daemon
and a GUI. The daemon will shut the NeXT machine down gracefully
and do logging. It also answers queeries from the GUI. The GUI
displays status information. It should be availalbe on the usual
NeXTstep anonymous FTP sites. One place you might want to check
is in : ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/. Any
reports on how it works?
Contributed by Max Hailperin (max@kolmogorov.gac.edu).
------------------------
Company: DELTEC
2727 Kurtz St.
San Diego, CA 92110-9980
US Phone: 1-800-854-2658
Email: None known
UPS Products:
"Most technologically advanced *true* on-line UPS."
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Exide
8521 Six Forks Road
Raleigh, NC 27615
US & Canada Phone: 1-800-554-3448
1-919-872-3020
------------------------
Company: Acme Electric Corp.
43 Argow Place
Nanuet, NY 10954
US Phone: 1-800-833-1373
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Tripp Lite
500 N. Orleans
Chicago, IL 60610-4188
US Phone: 1-312-329-1601
Email: None known
UPS Products:
On-line UPSs with pure Sine Wave output.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Data General
UPS Products:
Data General repackages another vendor's UPS's (from
Exide?) with some sort of special cable. They deserve
some mention since they provide UPS monitoring software
built in to the AViiON (their UN*X boxen) line. It can
be managed through sysadm(1M).
Contributed by: Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
------------------------
Other companies: Sola Electric
ITT Power System Corp
Digital Equipment Corporation. (They probably
repackage someone else's stuff, but
they're likely to support it and you
can order it from their catalog.)
I'd appreciate any information I can get on these.
06:
TOPIC: Acknowledgements
I would like to thank Charles Rhoades (cwr@zeus.jpl.nasa.gov) for
his sage remarks on my draft of this document.
I would like to thank Kevin R. Ray (kevin@kray.com) for sending me
the freely distributable upsd software.
Thanks also to Don Deal (Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu) for a great
many valuable suggestions and that great section on the types
of UPS units.
The following people made valuable suggestions to this document:
Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
David E A Wilson, david@cs.uow.edu.au
Edward Hartnett, ejh@larry.gsfc.nasa.gov
Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com
Kurt Hillig, khillig@chem.lsa.umich.edu
Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
Steve Welch, smw@columbine.cgd.ucar.edu
Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com
Andrew J. Templin, nosilla@ohionet.org
Chuck Bennett, chuck@benatong.com
M.V.S. Ramanath, ram@sclara.qms.com
Max Hailperin, max@kolmogorov.gac.edu
Please note that I take full blame for any errors or omissions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero)
Subject: NEXTSTEP Laptops?
Message-ID: <1994Oct10.132822.10720@zion.com>
Keywords: laptops, portables
Sender: david@zion.com
Organization: Zion Software & Consulting
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 13:28:22 GMT
How many out there have a NEXTSTEP portable computer?
What are your system specs, including part names, #'s?
Are there any with > 640x480 graphics?
Thanks,
David
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NEXTSTEP Registered Developer 203-657-3542 fax
Zion Software & Consulting david@zion.com email
From: dclhomm@unity.ncsu.edu (Daniel Cha L'hommedieu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What's wrong with my Cube?
Date: 10 Oct 1994 14:51:01 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University
Message-ID: <37bkcl$3d4@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>
The other day, I came home from work...my uptime had reached just over a
week (probably 7 days, 5+/- hrs). The system is a prototype 030 Cube,
running NS 3.0.
I came home and the machine was off. Quick query to the roommates and the
power had NOT gone out. Okay, power back up...
After about 10 minutes, the machine came up again (gotta love fsck).
I use BackSpace (the version from NS 2.1, 'coz it's faster) as a screen
locker (so my roomies can't rummage aroumd my HD). Well, now (and never
before has it done this) BackSpace keeps popping up the "Password" dialog,
then after a few seconds, "Incorrect password." No key was ever pressed,
and the mouse wasn't moved.
Well, funny thing...I just tried it today (after having left the machine
OFF for the weekend) and it didn't do that--it worked as normal.
But still, I changed nothing (just let the computer cool down after about
30 days of a power cycle). What could cause this?
Still perplexed,
Daniel
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From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What's the best notebook for running NEXTSTEP?
Date: 10 Oct 1994 15:09:00 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37blec$12t@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
In article <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
coppinj@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com (John Coppinger) writes:
> Who has the best notebook for NEXTSTEP? I've heard about:
> 1. The laptop from Talus
Gee, that would be my choice :-))
> 2. A rumor of a great new Versa from NEC
Talus doesn't sell rumors, but we can try to work up a quote for
you :-)) NEC is talking about their 800x600 notebook that is not shipping
yet. Will we have one when they do? Probably be a good good bet.
However, you might want to consider whether or not there will be drivers
available for the new Versa...when it does ship.
> 3. Improved notebook support in NS Release 3.3.
Considering that 3.2 has almost no notebook support, 3.3 can only
be better. How much better remains to be seen.
>
> I'm looking for a notebook that has the following:
> 1. At least 16M RAM (prefer 32M)
The Talus notebook takes 32MB. (the Versa doesn't)
> 2. At least 500M drive (prefer 1Gig)
We offer a 524MB and we'd offer larger, but NS does not support
larger enhanced IDE drives and won't in 3.3 either :-(( This is really
unfortunate and NeXT should solve this problem. The entire PC market is
moving more toward IDE and NS has to keep pace or face further limit on
its compatibility.
> 3. At least 486-DX2 66MHz
The DX-2 66MHZ gets pretty toasty inside that small enclosure.
The DX-4 100MHZ is a lot faster....and cooler. You'll see 100MHZ Pentiums
in the near future too, but they will be proportionately more expensive.
> 4. At least 8-bit color with Release 3.3
The Talus notebook has 16-bit color (now)
> 5. PowerBook-style wrist support
How about a foam wrist rest that fits into the travel case
instead. It's a lot more comfortable.
> 6. PowerBook-style trackball or ThinkPad-style stick
We use a center mounted trackball and we've found that people are
pretty equally divided on which they prefer. Some like the strain-gauge
(ThinkPad joy-stick) and others hate it. It's really a matter of personal
preference. I think you have to get used to using either one since
they're both so foreign to what we're used to with a mouse.
>
> I'm interested in any comments, suggestions or recommendations.
You can either buy what's shipping today, or constantly wait for
the newest, fastest, shiniest new toy to come along. We'll always try to
have one of those for you too :-) (I'm guilty of this too...I waited
years to buy a video camera using this same logic).
For a lot of people, including me, 640x480 (using Metrotools to
shrink the icons) is quite acceptable. You'll see 800x600 in a few months
and everyone will probably complain about the price. They _will_ be more
expensive, for obvious reasons. Don't expect to see a lot of 1024x768
notebooks running around in the near future...the cost of the screens is
prohibitive ($10k was the figure someone recently posted here). Besides,
can you picture 1024 on a 10 inch screen? If you go to a twelve inch
screen, do you still have a notebook? Don't get me wrong, I'd certainly
take a twelve inch screen with 1024, but not for an additional $10k.
Hope this helps...
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
steve@talus.com
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NWBench.app scores
Date: 8 Oct 1994 19:40:25 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <376sj9$2j6@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
References: <371qkg$pmr@xmission.xmission.com>
kris@xmission.com (kris) writes:
>Here are two sets of reports from NWBench, one from a NeXTstation mono 32/400
>and the other from a DECpc XL 560 24/1000 (Adaptec, Viper PCI 2 MB, Intel 16tp)
Thanks for posting these.
I'm confused about the benchmarks, and whether the best numbers are the
low ones or the high ones. For convenience, let me summarize your numbers,
rounded to two decimal places, from this and your earlier post:
Machine D-V V-V Ethernet Webster Compile MIPS
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
HP 735/99 5.81 5.92 495.17 15.93 35.68 88.18
HP 712/80 10.42 10.35 193.70 21.32 47.86 63.49
Pentium/90 31.04 7.09 0.45 26.00 49.03 N/A
DECpc XL 560 16.11 6.34 1.19 30.96 96.02 51.90
mono slab 6.77 5.62 96.09 54.23 57.03 16.22
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
System details:
HP 735/99 HP CRX24 monitor, 1280 x 1024
HP 712/80 HP CRT monitor, 1280 x 1024
Pentium/90 #9GXE64 Pro, 32 MB, unknown resolution, color depth
DECpc XL 560 Diamond Viper 2 MB PCI @ 1280 x 1024,
Adaptec 1542CF / DEC SCSI disk, Intel EtherExpress 16TP
NeXTStation mono, 32/400
Questions:
1. What do "D-V" and "V-V" stand for? Is a low number better than a
high number? Why do the numbers go down as the HP's get faster,
but go *up* with faster PC's? Do these tests suggest that you
need a 735 for video comparable to black hardware? Or is some
other effect skewing the results?
2. Why do the PC's have such crummy Ethernet speed results?
3. Why does the slab handily beat the Pentium/60 machine on the
Compile benchmark, even though the P/60 has three times its MIPS?
--David Finton
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Wanted: Optical Drive for NeXTcube
Date: 10 Oct 1994 16:11:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37bp3n$nc9@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <37ar7q$dkp@nkosi.well.com>
In article <37ar7q$dkp@nkosi.well.com> John Perry Barlow <barlow@eff.org>
writes:
> If anyone out there has an operational magneto-optical drive for a
> NeXTcube sitting around gathering dust, I'd be interested in buying it.
>
Most of us Cube owners have MO drives sitting around gathering dust,
but they're in our machines :-) Just a reminder - take the back off your
Cube *regularly* and clean out the dust to lengthen the life of your MO
drive and to keep your CPU running cool. I'm always amazed how much dust
gathers inside. If you don't have a dust filter on the back of your MO
drive, get one (Dancing Bear seems to be selling them). If you do have
one, clean or replace it regularly.
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: re: Talus Laptop
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 09:20:44 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <godwin.341.0007FABC@unixg.ubc.ca>
> 3. At least 486-DX2 66MHz
The DX-2 66MHZ gets pretty toasty inside that small enclosure.
The DX-4 100MHZ is a lot faster....and cooler. You'll see 100MHZ Pentiums
in the near future too, but they will be proportionately more expensive.
Thought Intel has discontinued the DX4...hmmm isn't that the reason Canon
Object Stations are retrofitting or something??
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: QMS printer problems
Date: 10 Oct 1994 16:20:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <37bpka$814@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: qms printer driver
my group has a QMS ColorScript 100 Model 10. NeXT *used* to
ship a ppd file for this but i found i had to dig it up from
my 3.1 release and add it to my PrinterTypes after upgrading
to 3.2...
anyway, this printer has not been used much in the past year
but we're trying to promote it's usage again. problem is,
almost everything we print ends up getting a postscript
error in the workspace and will not print.
i even tried printing a TEST page from PrintManager and it
got a postscript error on that!! i had not tried that in
over a year (pre-3.2) but this is ridiculous.
anybody know of a solution? is there a better driver? is
there some way to run the print jobs through a ps level 2
to level 1 converter?
thanks for replies
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: jorgeg@ix.netcom.com (Jorge Gustavson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Black H/W Question: MO interface details....
Date: 10 Oct 1994 16:22:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37bpn8$s7p@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
I am wondering about the nature of the interface between the MO drive
in an original NeXT Black Cube and the motherboard. I noticed that the
cable does not appear to be SCSI standard 50 pin....
Does anyone know the details of this, or a pointer to same? I'd like
to cannibalize the cube, and perhaps use the MO drive on a PC...
Many TIA's
Jorge Gustavson
jorgeg@ix.netcom.com
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How does NS/FIP see DOS partitions?
Date: 10 Oct 1994 14:35:05 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <37c1gp$6p@panix.com>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171117.17514B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
In article <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171117.17514B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>,
Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:
>I am interested in installing NeXT Step, but I want to have access to all
>my DOS FAT partitions. I will have a primary and secondary IDE partition
>(on drive c: a 525 Meg IDE), and then, I will have two partitions on my
>1 Gig SCSI disk formatted for FAT. There will a NS partition on the same
>SCSI disk. Then, I will have two CD-ROM (SCSI ID 3 and 4) and a 128 Meg
>Fujitsu M-O drive (SCSI ID 2). I would like for NS to be able to access
>the FAT files on those drives without any fuss. Is this possible? I
>plan on using the Talus driver for the 53C825 Asus card.
They should automatically be mounted when you login each time. I have a
DOS partition on my NeXTstep disk and it works fine. NeXTstep probes all
disks for valid partitions and mounts all that it finds.
Alec
--
Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet
chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: s5wong@zeus (Stanley Wong)
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Message-ID: <CxGx0I.IJ9@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com> <CwyF53.EE@nimbus.ruhr.de> <370hf5$32b@news1.shell>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:38:41 GMT
In regards to the soundblaster 16 driver that is on ftp.next.com, I have
installed the driver and it does work, however it only works for a little
while and then my system will hang. After a reboot, I can play a few sounds
and then boom, my system will just hang (it happens during the playing of
a sound). I also have an Adaptec 1542CF board. I am using irq 5, and
dma 1,7 and port io 220h for the soundblaster. Anyone got this driver
to work without hanging the system?
I had this same problem with the PAS16 board that I tested. The only
boards that don't seem to hang my system are the Microsoft Sound System
and the Audiotrix Pro.
stan
s5wong@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
From: Brian Dear <70034.1062@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Canon object.station questions
Date: 10 Oct 1994 20:32:02 GMT
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Message-ID: <37c8c2$h7t$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
What's the real story with the Canon object.station 41?
I am nervous that Canon is not really committed to this machine.
Calls to Canon for simple sales info result in 5 to 10 minute
waits, only to be told that the "sales line" is out to lunch.
Their lunch hour is 12 noon to 1pm. At 25 minutes after 1, there
was still no answer.
And then... am I reading this right? Canon is only offering a 1
year warranty on its object.station, at a time when I can buy a
cheap PC clone (let alone a Dell, Compaq, AST, etc) and get a
full 3 year warranty of parts and labor? I sense that Canon
isn't that committed to its machine, that it doesn't expect to
sell many (I agree with that).
I have been considering ordering a bunch of these machines
for my business, but, I am having second thoughts given the
NeXT-like treatment I'm getting from Canon. What makes these
people sit up and pay attention?
Has ANYONE actually purchased Canon machines for NEXTSTEP yet?
Who'd you buy it from? What was your experience? Are you
satisfied with the product? I am most interested to know.
Please email replies to brian@coconut.com, and I will summarize
on the net.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: athan@bwit169.morgan.com (Andrew Athan)
Subject: MICROPOLIS 2217
Message-ID: <ATHAN.94Oct10155531@bwit169.morgan.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 19:55:31 GMT
Does anyone have the specs on the Micropolis 2217 drive? Does it support
Fast SCSI-II, what is it's formatted/unformatted capacity,k etc?
Thanks,
aca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: DRAM Hidden Refresh & Cache Write Back?
Message-ID: <1994Oct10.140629.21681@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <Cx6Exv.KA0@eskimo.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 14:06:29 GMT
In article <Cx6Exv.KA0@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
writes:
> cache while DRAM is refreshed. I haven't a clue about Cache Write
> Back. Some time ago someone suggested disabling it, but didn't give
The word from NeXT via Cogent is that "write-back" cache policies will
not be supported until NS 3.3... I had write-back cached turned on on
a system, with no problems until I switched from the Intel
EtherExpress to the Cogent PCI network adaptor, at which point --the
system would crash as soon as I tried to use the network, if not at
boot time. I switched to "write-through" cache, and the system(s)
have been stable. However, CPU speedd (as measured by NWBench and
NXBench) went from 40 mips to about 29 mips. We are sticking with the
Cogent network option however (despite apparent raw performance hit)
since our application is network-intensive, and network performance is
better with the Cogent card.
Take care,
Phil
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@phoenix.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: smh@netserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Chain-Chart: NWBench.app Scores
Date: 10 Oct 1994 20:44:14 GMT
Organization: NetServices
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37c92u$4ci@raptor.netserv.com>
References: <376sj9$2j6@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
It would be nice to have Disk Read numbers for the originally posted scores,
retest Ethernet on each using IP addresses rather than hostnames, and post the
bit depth on the Pentium/90 (my guess is it is 8 bit).
Machine D-V V-V Ethernet Webster Compile MIPS Read
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
HP 735/99 5.81 5.92 495.17 15.93 35.68 88.18 N/A
HP 712/80 10.42 10.35 193.70 21.32 47.86 63.49 N/A
Pentium/100 28.09 6.51 695.16 23.91 34.09 92.46 1733
Pentium/90 31.04 7.09 0.45 26.00 49.03 N/A N/A
DECpc XL 560 16.11 6.34 1.19 30.96 96.02 51.90 N/A
Turbo ND 1.808 1.6 552.33 54.39 108.33 21.97 2398
Mono Slab 6.77 5.62 96.09 54.23 57.03 16.22 N/A
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
System details:
HP 735/99 HP CRX24 monitor, 1280 x 1024
HP 712/80 HP CRT monitor, 1280 x 1024
Pentium/100 Intel Plato 32/1.7, Stealth 64 PCI 4MB 1280x1024 @ 16 bit,
Adaptec 1542CF / Micropolis 2217AV, EtherExpress 16TP
Pentium/90 #9GXE64 Pro, 32 MB, unknown resolution, color depth
DECpc XL 560 Diamond Viper 2 MB PCI @ 1280 x 1024,
Adaptec 1542CF / DEC SCSI disk, Intel EtherExpress 16TP
NeXT TurboND 32/32/2GB 1152x864 @ 32 bit, ST12550N Seagate Barracuda
NeXTStation mono, 32/400
Test Notes:
D-V Constant for screen size (WxH), but doubles as bit depth doubles.
P100 8bit - 14, 16 bit - 28, 32 bit - 56.
V-V Constant for all screen sizes and bit depths.
Ethernet Must use IP dotted notation to get valid test.
Compile Make sure you don't start swapping.
Read Use raw device /dev/rsd0a rather than /dev/sd0a. Seems accurate,
Apple CD150 measured 150kb on P100.
From: zrudedog@aol.com (Zrudedog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Laser 400 Cable?
Date: 10 Oct 1994 16:54:10 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <37c9li$a50@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Are there any specifications for using a longer cable on the Next
Laserprinter?
Can I use a longer serial cable? Where can I go for the best solution for
about 10-15 feet?
Thanx,
--rich
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Black H/W Question: MO interface details....
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:40:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37cccb$4e6@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <37bpn8$s7p@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In article <37bpn8$s7p@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> jorgeg@ix.netcom.com (Jorge
Gustavson) writes:
> I'd like to cannibalize the cube, and perhaps use the MO drive
> on a PC...
Impossible. The cube's MO drive uses a unique format which is thoroughly
incompatible with everything else.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jtodd@ss1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: Hayes ISDN in MD/DC experiences?
Date: 10 Oct 1994 22:16:38 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <37ceg6$13o@news1.digex.net>
Summary: Need experienced advice with ISDN for NeXT
Keywords: Hayes, NeXT, ISDN, Bell Atlantic wank wank wank
Dear NeXTlanders:
I've been seriously contemplating ISDN here in sunny Washington, DC to my
Internet provider in Greenbelt (who I happen to work for.) Now, from the
REALLY poor service and advice and contradictory information I've received
by Bell Atlantic, I'd love to hear YOUR experiences with the Hayes ISDN
extenders here in the DC Metro area.
The el-cheapo Hayes ISDN extenders for NeXTs that I can get my hands on
are very interesting, but I've heard (again) contradictory rumors that they
will work here in the DC region. I know that I'll need an NT1, but that's
not a big deal, right? I have the 3.0 disks with the ISDN applications in
them, and I think that I can hack my way into making them work with 3.2 (3.3
soon, I guess.) Is it possible to run data over the "voice" channel and thus
avoid the horrendous data rates that Bell Atlantic charges? Is it possible
to bind two channels to get 112k thruput? (but pay for it) Any other
thoughts?
PS: Will the ISDN extender answer voice calls? I seem to remember something
that would do voice over the extender, and I don't think I'm confusing it
with "am" which is for the Zyxel.
--
John Todd - Field Sales/Technical Entropy Supervisor - jtodd@digex.net
Digital Express Internet Providers - 1-800-969-9090 x307 = sales info
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: NWBench.app scores
Message-ID: <1994Oct10.201711.6829@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <376sj9$2j6@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 20:17:11 GMT
In article <376sj9$2j6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
> kris@xmission.com (kris) writes:
>
> >Here are two sets of reports from NWBench, one from a NeXTstation mono
32/400
> >and the other from a DECpc XL 560 24/1000 (Adaptec, Viper PCI 2 MB, Intel
16tp)
>
> Thanks for posting these.
>
> I'm confused about the benchmarks, and whether the best numbers are the
> low ones or the high ones. For convenience, let me summarize your numbers,
> rounded to two decimal places, from this and your earlier post:
>
I'm confused too. I tried running this benchmark application on my Turbo Next,
and it gave me an ethernet speed of 0.645 KB/sec (I tried host names and host
IP addresses). The rest of the numbers don't make much sense either. Was this
thing posted as some sort of early april fool's joke?
Serge J. Goldstein
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Victor the Cleaner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/I Requirements
Date: 11 Oct 1994 00:13:56 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <37clc4$7u4@galaxy.ucr.edu>
I am currently using NS for Black and I am extremely interested
in using NS for Intel. But what are the requirements for the Intel
Machines? I understand NS only runs in "higher end" PC's, but just what
does this mean? Any help posted or e-mail'd would be extremely helpful.
Thanks in advance...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu (Steve Krans)
Subject: NS & the Plextor 4x CDRom Drive
Message-ID: <skrans-1010940738320001@dialup-2-131.gw.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 13:38:32 GMT
Hi..
I'm posting this message for a friend. He's in the process of building a
NS/IP system, and wanted to know if the Plextor Quad Speed CDRom Drive was
compatible with NextStep. Please email any comments to him at:
singh@homer.cmh.uspra.abb.com.
Thanks!
Steve
--
Steve Krans
skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu
From: scott@atlanta.com (Scott M. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: test please ignore
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:22:04 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <37cb9s$jmf@metro.atlanta.com>
testing, please ignore
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ansgar Erlenkoetter <ERLENKOETTER_ANSGAR@tandem.com>
Subject: Intel P/90: Perf. Numbers & Compat. Experience
Message-ID: <1994Oct10.155512.10148@integrity.uucp>
Sender: usenet@integrity.uucp (Integrity News System)
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc. HPRC, Germany
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:55:12 GMT
Hi World
Is there any list out there reporting experiences and performance numbers
about
Intels P5/90MHz running NextStep? Nextanswers seems not to be too up to
date
on this, e.g. not really covering the 90MHz versions yet.
Thanks
Ansgar Erlenkoetter (erlenkoetter_ansgar@tandem.com)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station questions
Date: 11 Oct 1994 02:14:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37cse4$8hg@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <37c8c2$h7t$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
In article <37c8c2$h7t$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Brian Dear
<70034.1062@CompuServe.COM> writes:
> What's the real story with the Canon object.station 41?
My queston is: "Why is the ObjectStation so expensive?"
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: tomb@earthlink.net (Tom Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MICROPOLIS Drives on NeXTs--Problems?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 20:09:49 -0800
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <tomb-1010942009490001@tomb.earthlink.net>
References: <3712r7$uc@newsflash.mitre.org>
In article <3712r7$uc@newsflash.mitre.org>, wherndon@smiley.mitre.org
(William Herndon) wrote:
> I've finally come to the end of the line on my Seagate and need more
> space. Since, I've been pleased with their product quality and
> service, I'm probably going to buy a replacement drive from Alliance
> Peripheral Systems. However, the drive that I'm looking at is based
> on the Micropolis 4110 mechanism, and I seem to remember posts in
> c.s.n.h last spring that indicated that there were compatibility
> problems between NeXTs and Micropolis drives.
>
> Anyone remember anything about this and care to enlighten me?
>
> Thanks much.
>
>
> - Max
>
> | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 |
> | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology |
> | NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 |
> | |
> | Opinions expressed are my own. Who else would want them? |
Glad to see other posts with favorable comments about Micropolis drives on
NeXT systems. I don't have direct knowledge, but I receive the
registration cards for external subsystems and know that a fair number are
used on NeXT computers, and the responses seem to be favorable.
If you'd like specific information on Micropolis drives or external
subsystems, the easiest way is to call Micropolis at 1-800-395-DRIVE. With
a touch-tone phone, enter 1 to get a real live person for product
information and distributors/resellers in your area, or enter 2 to access
our automated FAX-back system for product literature and technical support
information. If you enter 1, let the person know that I suggested you call
- I can always use the goodwill!
Tom Burton
Publications Manager, Micropolis Corporation
From: danno@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fujitsu 2624FA scsi disk in NeXT slab
Date: 11 Oct 1994 03:37:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan,ITD User Services
Message-ID: <37d19q$bod@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
i've got what the subject says. this is actually a replacement drive,
on warranty. Unfortunately, the owner has lost the manual.
I remember when I installed this that the key thing I had to do was
disable synchronous scsi mode. Can anyone tell me which jumper does
that? Any other optimal jumper setting for NeXT would be cool,
or a list of them all if you have it handy.
the one thing i got out of fujitsu's automated answer server was that i
should use CNH7 to change the scsi id, but it has 10 pins, and while
they gave me pin numbers (5/6, 7/8, 9/10), I don't have any idea what
the ordering is. If you know this off the top of your head, please
respond (if not, i'll experiment).
Now my bitch session: their automated answer server sez they have a
BBS at 408 944 9899, but that number has been disconnected. Apparently
they now have a compu$erve forum, which does me little good, with no
compuserve login.
thanks in advance!
danno
--
dan pritts ITD/LSA Partnership Unix Support dan.pritts@umich.edu
I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink a beer to celebrate
something important, like the fall of communism or the fact that our
refrigerator is still working.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 11 Oct 1994 01:32:44 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <37d81s$ouo@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
New Information
---------------
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
A product directory and information server, built around
the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia
announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability
to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://www.stepwise.com/
or
http://digifix.digifix.com/
using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic.
If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you
access to the server as well.
The entries currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
- User Group locations
- Mailing List archives and information
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is
available. You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
news://comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
news://comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
news://comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
news://comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
news://comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news://comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
news://comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
news://comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news://comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news://comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, transfer them by anonymous ftp,
or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-848-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
and Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: websterus@aol.com (WebsterUS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need PowerPC Contact in IBM/Motorola/Apple
Date: 11 Oct 1994 02:50:01 -0400
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Hi there. I am a PhD student conducting research for Princeton
University's Department of Politics into the x86-PowerPC platform shift.
I am hoping to find sources that will help me determine the degree to
which the PPC platform shift depends on the cooperation and support of
non-US, mostly-Asian actors like Taiwanese clone makers, Canon in Japan,
etc. My feeling is that the shift cannot take place without the active
support of Mitac, Acer, Canon and others who control so much of the
second-tier of personal computer manufacturing. If this is the case, how
can the PowerPC alliance win these actor's support? Technology transfer
of important and promising new technologies? Long-term development
strategies? You see where it is going.
I am hoping that the Internet turns up some people from IBM, Apple,
Motorola and others who have some thing to contribute. The lady at
1-800-PowerPC said there is no formal way for someone at IBM to help me.
I imagine that many PPC people lurk in this newsgroup, who might have
something to share. I would also be interested in hearing from people at
Intel. I am after quotable opinions from verifiable sources, and, of
course, I can preserve your anonymity. Company documents would also be
nice, but I am not holding my breath.
Is there anywhere else I should look for this information?
Thanks.
Matt Webster
gmw@princeton.edu (my preferred email address)
Send surface mail to:
Matt Webster
Department of Politics
Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544
Voice: (609) 258-7680
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: MICROPOLIS Drives on NeXTs--Problems?
Message-ID: <bchin.781851685@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <3712r7$uc@newsflash.mitre.org>
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 05:01:25 GMT
wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
> I've finally come to the end of the line on my Seagate and need more
> space. Since, I've been pleased with their product quality and
> service, I'm probably going to buy a replacement drive from Alliance
> Peripheral Systems. However, the drive that I'm looking at is based
> on the Micropolis 4110 mechanism, and I seem to remember posts in
> c.s.n.h last spring that indicated that there were compatibility
> problems between NeXTs and Micropolis drives.
We've used Micropolis 2217 and 4110's successfully on black & white
hardware. Good drives for great prices. The older Micropolis
drives (5.25" variety) sometimes weren't ready in time... and didn't
tell the machine to wait so the SCSI controller wouldn't see it.
I haven't seen this with their newer drives (this was a common
problem for several makes a long time ago).
I typically go to East Coast Electronics (508-683-0339). Like most
low price mail order places, they don't offer their own warranties or
free returns. However, they have low prices, ship on time, and have a
decent stock.
One thing to keep in mind... some drive manufacturers are picky about
where you get your merchandise... if you don't get it from "authorized"
dealers, than you don't have a warranty.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk (Phil Robinson)
Subject: Re: Sound Card advice for Intel h/w please?
References: <780846812snz@unitec.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:57:44 +0000
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Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk "Phil Robinson" writes:
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
> From: Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk (Phil Robinson)
> Path: unitec.demon.co.uk!demon!unitec.demon.co.uk!Phil
> Subject: Sound Card advice for Intel h/w please?
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>
> After reading this group for a while, I do't find any really
> definitive info. on a reliable soundcard for an intel box:
>
> Briefly: I've tried the PAS 16 and it doesn't work in a variety
> of catastrophic ways from sounds played incorrectly, pauses, stereo
> all wrong, to complete and instant death the instant you try to a
> SND.
>
> I had the Adaptec1542x but after reading the NeXT answers on the
> topic, installed the later driver and got a BusLogic 445S. Same results.
> Now I just want a card that works, and If anyone wants to buy a
> PAS16, let me know!
> Please reply if you know any answers - I don't trust the NeXT h/w
> FAQ AT ALL!
> Thanks...
> Phil
>
> --
Thanks to all who replied - the consensus seems to be that the
Audiotrix pro has more happy users than any other, with one or
two people touting the MS sound system.
Thanks again...
_________________________________________________________
Phil Robinson. Unified Technology Ltd, UK
Phil@unitec.demon.co.uk
voice: 061 236 8406 modem: 061 237 5324 fax: 061 236 7041
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ergo Keyboards
Date: 10 Oct 1994 20:47:17 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37cnal$1hc@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <Godwin.328.00B6B291@unixg.ubc.ca>
Godwin (Godwin@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Actually one interesting looking keyboards out there is the M$ keyboard...yeah
: yeah yeah...I know Microsoft...666 number blah blah blah;-) ...but something
: they do have something good once in a while...Anyways..Does anyone tried it
: with a NS/FIP yet? I heard there are couple of extra Win95 keys in there...hmm
: I wonder....
: Godwin
I just purchased the Microsoft "Natural" keyboard, and it's anything but
natural. It certainly looks interesting, but it use, its torture. The
main problem is not the "ergonomic" angling of the board, but the
horrendous keys, which require many times the force of my Gateway
keyboard, and are quite sticky. After a few minutes of typing, my fingers
ached. Stay away from the MS Keyboard, like any other 1.0 Microsoft product.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
you can't
disable the 2940 and run the NCR (I've tried every imaginable
combination). I've simply plucked out the 2940 and set it on a shelf until
3.3 comes out, although I doubt I'll ever use it again, since I'm getting
great performance from my NCR 825 w/Talus driver.
: The ATI Mach 64 is a good choice, as is the Soundblaster 16.
ATI Mach64 w/Talus driver is an excellent combo. Fast in all display modes.
As for the SB16, the NeXT beta driver is playback-only (no way I'm rebooting
twice to record a 5-second sound bite). I'm still waiting for an
alternative SB16 driver.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I w
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:01:36 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37co5g$1uk@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Oct4.173353.28989@sifon.cc.m>
samurai@hasc.ca wrote:
: Subject: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
:
: Well, I don't know how many of you are up to date on my hardware woes.
: Basically, I had cured them all, but was still dissapointed with by disk
: write performance. I talked a bit with a friend of mine a while ago
: (thanks Bob) who mentioned that I should try fiddling with the disk
: initialization procedure.
: For the record, I have a Micropolis 4110 1.0gig SCSI-II drive, and a
: NCR based PCI SCSI-II controller, using a Talus driver.
I'm running NS on a Micropolis 4110, with the NCR 825 and Talus driver,
and from the start have been getting the following benchmarks:
Write 2085 kb/sec
Read 2122 kb/sec
I'm impressed by the performance.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:06:51 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37cofb$22t@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Sep29.120606.2379@trimark.com> <1994Oct4.181015.2165@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy Brockbank (samurai@hasc.ca) wrote:
: I've never been able to get the freeware SB driver to work on my system,
: but the NeXT version worked flawlessly for me. I'm very happy with it.
: (Good job NeXT).
Except for one problem: It basically only works for playback. If you want
to record, you've got to reboot, record, then reboot again, and play
back. No way I'm going through that rigmarole just to record a 5-second
clip.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSFIP Success! Thanks to Talus
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:10:05 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37cold$25n@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <36g7h7$h5k@anshar.shadow.net> <36t6qr$qea@coyote.rain.org>
Les Beears (lbeears@coyote.rain.org) wrote:
: I have the SupraFaxModem 144i and it workd great in my DX2 66 machine.
: I am using the PPP software available on the duke ftp site, the last release
: seems to work great. I had quit a few problems with the previous version.
: Cheers
: Les
I had no luck getting the Supra 288i working with NS/FIP. I called the
folks at Supra and they agreed to exchange my internal for an external
for the $30 difference.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Optical Drive to work with NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:14:50 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37coua$294@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <9410061726.AA22778@mail0181.Phibro.COM>
William Wei (cnslt018@phibro.com) wrote:
: Has Any body had an Optical Drive work with NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI under N/S 3.2?
: I have an IBM OEM external OD which uses to work with Adaptec SCSI and is working fine for
: NeXTstation. But when it is connect to NCR 53C825 PCI SCSI it hangs the machine.
Same problem here, only with an HP C1716T internal OD.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Digital Video and Video Capture?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:26:22 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37cpju$2fl@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941006225233.14124B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
Matt Webster (gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu) wrote:
: I have heard that there is a thing called NeXT Time that will
: runQuicktime videos. Is there something that will run AVI Video for
: Windows files? Is there a way to use a video capture card in NS to
: capture video from a VCR or other source. I have Intel Smart Video
: Recorder and would like to be able to work with digital video. Anyone
: done this?
NeXTIME will play back QuickTime videos, as long as they are compressed
using a supported codec. At this point, there is no support for AVI,
although this could be added in the future. As far as I know, there is no
NS front-end for the SVR, and I have been informed that there are
currently NO cards capable of creating NeXTIME videos. The Fast Movie
Machine Pro claims to be NeXTIME-capable, by which I believe it can
capture TIFF sequences which can then be converted to use with NeXTIME. I
myself am waiting for a true NeXTIME video capture card for use with a
presentation app like Concurrence. Also missing is a NeXTIME
video-editing app.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:28:57 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37cpop$2ha@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu>
slxn8@cc.usu.edu wrote:
: As much as it pains me to say it, the new Microsoft ergonomic keyboard looks
: pretty cool. <sigh> I almost feel compelled to go out and buy one!
: Has anyone tried one of these dudes with NEXTSTEP? Can the little "Windows"
: keys be used as Command keys? That would be cool. :-)
: Any info would be appreciated.
From anshar.shadow.net!anshar.shadow.net!nobody Mon Oct 10 20:47:41 1994
Path: anshar.shadow.net!anshar.shadow.net!nobody
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ergo Keyboards
Date: 10 Oct 1994 20:47:17 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
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Godwin (Godwin@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Actually one interesting looking keyboards out there is the M$ keyboard...yeah
: yeah yeah...I know Microsoft...666 number blah blah blah;-) ...but something
: they do have something good once in a while...Anyways..Does anyone tried it
: with a NS/FIP yet? I heard there are couple of extra Win95 keys in there...hmm
: I wonder....
: Godwin
I just purchased the Microsoft "Natural" keyboard, and it's anything but
natural. It certainly looks interesting, but it use, its torture. The
main problem is not the "ergonomic" angling of the board, but the
horrendous keys, which require many times the force of my Gateway
keyboard, and are quite sticky. After a few minutes of typing, my fingers
ached. Stay away from the MS Keyboard, like any other 1.0 Microsoft product.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem info...
Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:30:54 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <37cpse$2k8@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <10690@cg-atla.UUCP>
Peter Greis (greis@cg-atla.UUCP) wrote:
: Well, I'm finally going to get a SLIP connection... however I don't
: think that my 9600 bps modem is up to the job. I would appreciate
: some feedback on what to buy, general prices, etc. I was looking
: at the SupraFAX 288; please send comments to:
Supra works great - just make sure to get the external.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jorgeg@ix.netcom.com (Jorge Gustavson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Black H/W Question: MO interface details....
Date: 11 Oct 1994 14:04:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37e614$2pj@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In <37cccb$4e6@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
>
>In article <37bpn8$s7p@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> jorgeg@ix.netcom.com (Jorge
>Gustavson) writes:
>
>> I'd like to cannibalize the cube, and perhaps use the MO drive
>> on a PC...
>
>Impossible. The cube's MO drive uses a unique format which is thoroughly
>incompatible with everything else.
>
>-- Todd Takken
>takken@leland.stanford.edu
>
I suppose one would care about the actual format if one were going to interchange
data with other MO installations, but I'm interested in simply having
more removeable storage. However, another writer in the newsgroup pointed
out the important issue, which is that the MO drive INTERFACE is not
compatible with anything obtainable for the PC architecture. It's
allegedly some kind of wierd ESDI interface that uses special dedicated
H/W on the 030 and 040 NeXT system boards. No equivalent exists outside
of NeXT-land.
Even at this rate, if I were able to obtain the details of the inter-
face, and the protocol used to talk to the drive, I'd be able to
*build* an HBA for an ISA architecture machine. This might be a worth-
while endeavor if there were piles of NeXT MO drives out there that
folks wanted to hang on their PC or whatever.
Anyone know if such details were published by NeXT? (I'd imagine that
Steve Jobs would've been smarter than that, having seen what happened
to IBM when *they* did that! :-)
Cheers!
Jorge Gustavson
jorgeg@ix.netcom.com
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon object.station questions
Date: 11 Oct 1994 15:42:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37eboq$bf5@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <37cse4$8hg@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <37cse4$8hg@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
> My queston is: "Why is the ObjectStation so expensive?"
>
I remember when the hoards were asking the same question about the
NeXTstation. I think most people have learned the answer through painful
personal experience. Possibly the answer is similar here...
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: re: Talus Laptop/Object Station
Date: 11 Oct 1994 16:50:12 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
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References: <godwin.341.0007FABC@unixg.ubc.ca>
In article <godwin.341.0007FABC@unixg.ubc.ca> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
writes:
> > The DX-2 66MHZ gets pretty toasty inside
> > that small enclosure. The DX-4 100MHZ is a lot
> > faster....and cooler. You'll see 100MHZ Pentiums
> > in the near future too, but they will be
> > proportionately more expensive.
> Thought Intel has discontinued the DX4...hmmm
> isn't that the reason Canon Object Stations are
> retrofitting or something??
The DX4 is not being discontinued; instead it is being pushed by Intel as
a laptop chip as opposed to a desktop CPU. The price difference between
the DX4 and the 60MHZ is negligible, but you wouldn't want a 60MHZ Pentium
in your notebook....unless you'd like it to double as a waffle maker.
Intel is pushing desktop hardware vendors to move to Pentiums rather than
the 486 since they now have so much competition in the 486 market. That
could be were the misunderstanding comes from. They are not discontinuing
them, in fact, the complaint is that they are not building enough of them
to meet the demand in the notebook market.
It's not surprising that Canon Object Stations are being refitted for
Pentium CPU's. The surprising thing is that they chose not to release a
Pentium in the first place. The chips have certainly been available for
long enough. What's _really_ surprising is that they chose not to produce
a PCI machine, rather than a VLB, at the same time everyone else in the
industry was moving to PCI....especially considering the hefty price
they're charging for their 486 machines. The Object Station may (or may
not...I haven't played with one) be fast, but a really fast Edsel is still
an Edsel (IMHO).
I'm also not a proponent of "on-board everything". NeXT did a better job
with this than almost anyone else I know of, and while I love my
NeXTSTATION color, I'd give a bundle to be able to upgrade it with third
party add-on cards (especially now that NeXT is no longer making their own
hardware and my machines are dying a slow death).
We all (including me) complain about the compatibility problems of PC
hardware, but I sure love being able to add the newest, fastest PCI video
card, etc, which I can't do with my NeXTSTATION...and that you also won't
be able to do with an Object Station. Everything in life is a tradeoff I
suppose, but I prefer to have the ability to make changes to my system as
new technology evolves and not get stuck with hardware that's quickly out
of date.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What scanning/OCR software is there for NeXT Step/Intel?
Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:06:40 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <37f29g$4tm@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171531.17514C-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
In article
<Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171531.17514C-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> Matt
Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> writes:
> I am thinking of moving to NeXT Step/Intel, but I would like to know
what
> software for scanning and oCR'ing is out there. I would like to use a
> Scanjet IIp B&W scanner through the SCSI card, but I don't know if the
> Talus driver supports that and what other software I need. Anyone care
> to comment on what works and what doesn't?
ScanTastic by Second Glance will support the HP IIp. Express OCR by VISUS
is an excellent product. Both are available from OpenSource as is
additional information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pchazot@musical.fdn.org (Pierre Chazot)
Subject: NextStep 3.2 Intel - WD90C33
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Operator)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
Message-ID: <2839420524.27173@musical.fdn.org>
Comment-To: ALL
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:05:24 GMT
Hello World ! ;-)
I've just installed NextStep 3.2 Intel version on my PC and I have a
problem : My graphic Card is a Western Digital 90C33 and I haven't any
driver for it ! So, my screen is still 640x480... I can't work with it !
The better will be 1024x768x256 !... Have you ever heard something about
a Western Digital 90C33 driver for NextStep ???????????
Thanks a lot - Pierre, Paris - FRANCE
From: beebb@spine.med.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP! PLI killer, power probs
Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:43:35 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37f4en$fn1@alpha.epas.utoronto.ca>
HELP!
Two problems:
First, when I have my PLI external 2.8 SuperFloppy conected to my cube
(which is running off a Micropolis 2217 disk), the system works fine
for a few hours, then the machine dies. If I do a cmnd-cmnd-~, it
tells me that there was an incomplete data transfer on the SCSI bus,
and it then claims that it was FATAL. What can I do about this?
Second, tried to power off my machine today, and it wouldn't work.
Why?
Thanks for your help out in netland....
Brian
beebb@spine.med.utoronto.ca
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NWBench.app scores
Date: 11 Oct 1994 20:09:55 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Message-ID: <37f9gj$9cp@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <371qkg$pmr@xmission.xmission.com>
kris@xmission.com (kris) writes:
>Here are two sets of reports from NWBench, one from a NeXTstation mono 32/400
Ok, I seem to be in the dark again... Where might I find a copy of NWBench?
Thank you for the pointers ;-)
Later, John
--
monoChrome Inc. N#3 New York Law School ;^)
John Kheit e#8 kheit@hangout.rutgers.edu %-)
173 Westgate Drive R#9 kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Edison, NJ 08820-1163 D#0 Opinions expressed represent me only.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: shawn@monitor.com
Subject: Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <CxJF3K.169@monitor.com>
Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
References: <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 02:04:32 GMT
geez, some real hate postings here :-)
i actually like the ms keyboard quite a bit. some of the keys that you reach
for could be a bit easier to push - the alt and whatnot sometimes require that
extra push out of a pinky.
otherwise i'm quite happy with it. i've been typing for 15 years, and just
started to have problems - the [problems cleared up right away when i started
using the ms keyboard.
the feel is not perfect, but it's pretty darned good.
i have used the kinesis keyboards (we have two or three in the office) and
they're neat, but i could never quite get the hang of them.
i think the ms keyboard is a nice alternative (and it won't set you back a
buttload), though i do admit that version 2.0 will probably be nicer.
for now, i'm very happy. i have a gateway keyboard, a DEC keyboard, and NeXT
(non adb) keyboard on my desk at work and the MS at home. the NeXT has the
finest feel (by far) but the MS is most polite on my hands.
your mileage may vary.
shawn
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw
through the leather straps.
-- Emo Phillips
--
Shawn Broderick
Monitor Company / Information Engineering
shawn@monitor.com
(617) 252-2090
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I was... UNTIL...
Message-ID: <1994Oct12.032708.5808@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <8iYq=1K00iV8EA0EUE@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 03:27:08 GMT
In article <8iYq=1K00iV8EA0EUE@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 5-Oct-94 Re: Slow disk writes?
>Dissa.. by Matt Kennel@inls1.ucsd.e
>> wow!
>>
>> So, it's not the fault of the Talus driver as some people were implying
>> then......
>>
>This is already documented pretty well in the man pages.
>
I don't think the man pages say that disk is broken and will always
report that your disk is 3600 rpm, even though it ain't, and even
after you've formatted the filesystem at 5400 rpm. There are many
SCSI tools out there that get this right, so I don't know why
disk could have remained broken for 7 years.
BTW, I've verified my system with the Byte benchmark. I've gone up
from an index of 1 (identical performance to a Sparc 1) to an
index of 3 for writes. Overall system performance has gone up from
3.3 to 3.9.
- db
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From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: PS/2 or Busmouse? Which one?
Message-ID: <CxJFIE.1FL@aeon.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Cities in Dust
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 02:13:25 GMT
Hi,
I'm thinking about buying a PS/2 or BusMouse to get rid
of the SerialMouse driver of NS/FIP 3.2 and use the Mux driver
for both serial ports alone.
I'm aware that the options are to get a PS/2 mouse from Microsoft or
Logitec or to get a Bus Mouse (Inport) Mouse from Logitec.
Which one should I buy?
Do the mice come with adapter cards? (Maybe I'll buy a Asus
board with PS/2 mouse port next time. This would direct
me to the PS/2 mouse but I don't know yet so I would need
a adapter card.)
Thank you,
Thomas
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From: thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Mux driver and 16C552 I/O cards?
Message-ID: <CxJFKw.1GL@aeon.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Cities in Dust
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 02:14:55 GMT
Hi,
could anyone please confirm (or not) whether the Mux driver
works with I/O cards based on the 16C552 chip (this is a chip which
contains two 16550 compatible serial ports and two bi-directional
parallel ports in a PLA(sp?) case)?
I ask because recently I tried booting a NS system (using the
shipped SerialPorts driver only) with such a card plugged
in and the system did hang when it tryed to configure the
serial ports during.
The same system came up when I used a 16450 on COM1 and
a (classic, DIL case) 16550AFN chip on COM2 without problems.
I couldn't check whether it would work with the Mux driver
only because I've a serial mouse which needs the original
SerialPorts driver for at least one COM port.
If the Mux driver would work with the 16C552 I would buy
a PS/2 or Bus Mouse to get rid of the SerialPorts driver
finally. (The 16C552 card works flawlessly under DOS/Windows).
Thank you,
Thomas
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From: scott@atlanta.com (Scott M. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need help with Adaptec 274x driver
Date: 11 Oct 1994 23:28:33 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <37f731$ac5@metro.atlanta.com>
Keywords: Adaptec 2740 driver problems
I've had trouble with the new Beta driver for the Adaptec 274x's while
helping a friend set up a system (while installing NS/Intel 3.2).
I've been unable to get an Adaptec 2742T to work using the new Beta
Adaptec2740 driver. During bootup I get:
..
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Registering: fc0
Registering: fd0
Registering: fd0a
Adaptec7770: Host adapter not found
Registering: event0
Registering: kmDevice0
rootdev 600, howto 0
panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):
mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
Waiting for remote debugger connection.
(Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
This is on a 486 DX50/1 Meg. cache, 12 Meg. RAM, Diamond Viper VLB.
The 2742T is a twin channel, he's got a 2GB disk (Seagate ST42400ND)
and (terminated) CD-ROM player hooked to the primary channel and
nothing on the secondary channel.
The disk works fine under DOS and works for NextStep with my DPT card.
I built the disk using my DPT card and set up the Adaptec driver for
the appropriate IRQ and port addresses. However, I noticed that
Configure was refusing to set the I/O port addresses, so I modified
Adaptec2740.config/Instance0.table so that the I/O ports were
"0x2c88-0x2d57" (I think this should have been "0x2c88-0x2d47") which
would be (almost) appropriate with the card being in EISA slot 2.
Does anyone know what could be the problem or if overshooting the I/O
port range could prevent the driver from working?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
From: scott@atlanta.com (Scott M. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/Intel 3.2 reports the wrong amount of memory and panics
Date: 11 Oct 1994 23:30:41 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <37f771$ac8@metro.atlanta.com>
I've had trouble getting NS/Intel 3.2 up and running on a friend's system.
The hard disk was built on another system with the user CD-ROM
(installing all packages except non-English languages). When the hard
disk was installed on the intended system, NextStep reported that
physical memory was 24 megabytes, when in fact only 12 MB was
installed. In this state, NextStep failed shortly after the fsck
check with either an arithmetic exception or address fault (both
resulting in a kernel panic).
My friend later tried swapping the memory modules on the motherboard.
NS/I then reported 8 megabytes of physical memory (due to a SCSI card
problem he wasn't able to get to the point where the arithmetic
exception and address fault occurred).
The system is a 486 DX/50 with 1 Meg. cache and a NICE motherboard
with VLB/EISA slots (AMI BIOS).
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
--
Scott M. Jones Atlanta, GA, USA
scott@atlanta.com <---NeXTmail welcome here
sjones@netcom.com
From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: System with 2 IDE HD's
Date: 12 Oct 1994 02:14:23 GMT
Message-ID: <37fgpv$2a0@pubxfer2.news.psi.net>
References: <376fq0$hk@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca>
Tim Wasko (twasko@cuug.ab.ca) wrote:
: Is is possible to have a bootmanager that allows booting off either of
: two IDE HDs. I would like to have NS/I on one, and DOS/Windows on the
: other.
I believe the answer is "No, you must boot from drive 0".
(But I would love to be proven wrong!)
I have a Micropolis 2112A 1Gb IDE drive which is split with a jumper
into two 512Mb drives. What I did is partition drive 0 into a tiny
DOS partition and a big NS partition, and just make the DOS
AUTOEXEC.BAT file toss me over onto drive D: first thing. Even device
drivers can be on drive D:, all you have to do is list them with full
drive and path in the CONFIG.SYS.
I found this easier than the alternative, namely NS switch-booting,
mostly because it was NS 3.1. Nowadays, since the documentation,
software, and experience improved, you can just as easily have a small
(not tiny) NS boot partition with the System.config/Instance0.table
set up for rootdev=hd1 so you don't have to type it by hand each time.
The choice depends entirely on how comfortable you are with the
configuration of the two operating systems, and which one you want to
steal 8Mb from the other one's drive. You can see which choice I
made, since I felt more comfortable hacking around any DOS
limitations.
Good luck,
Brian Hess
Active Ingredients, Inc.
bnh@active.com
From: garmstro@martin.re.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT monitor microphone jack (mono or stereo)?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:24:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Rural Economy, University of Alberta.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GARMSTRO.94Oct11192422@martin.re.ualberta.ca>
Here's a short, trivial question.
Is the microphone jack on the back of a NeXT monitor for a mono or stereo
plug?
--glen
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: COGENT Ethernet PCI (warning!)
Message-ID: <1994Oct12.033403.6225@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <41780@dog.ee.lbl.gov> <379g9i$bdd@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 03:34:03 GMT
In article <379g9i$bdd@blkbox.blkbox.COM> steve@talus.com writes:
>In article <374atp$d10@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich
>III) writes:
>> > In article <3718b9$6bi@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com
>>
>> Now I'm worried. I've been running NEXTSTEP 3.2 on a DECpc XL-560 for
>> several months now with what I believe to be exactly this configuration
>-
>> the NCR PCI SCSI (using the Talus Driver) and a Cogent PCI-Ethernet
>using
>> the NeXT driver from ftp.next.com. I've had no problems. Am I sitting on
>a
>> time bomb?
>>
>
>I should have clarified this a bit. I received this warning from NeXT and
>it didn't come from personal experience. I'm very happy to hear that
>someone is using this combination successfully. Please let us know if you
>have any complications down the road. We have a potential fix for this in
>the works.
I was the original tester of the Talus NCR/eMASTER combination. It
didn't work for me and NeXT figured that there was no way they could
guarantee that their PCI drivers would work with other people's. In
fact, they mentioned that the eMASTER driver did some special PCI bus
configuration that was likely the cause of upsetting the Talus SCSI
driver. However the DEC that you have has the NCR chip on-board. Mine
was a card in one of the PCI slots on my motherboard. This could make
the difference, I think. Anyway, my combo wouldn't get past the boot
process. If your machine boots, then I wouldn't worry (any more than
normal with PC hardware ;-).
My fix was to return the eMASTER and to use an Intel EtherExpress.
I've never had a problem with the EtherExpress cards, but wished that
I could have kept the eMASTER because it seemed pretty cool, and the
people at Cogent were good, had email support (free too, what a
concept!) and were just plain pleasant to deal with.
I vow to buy their product again, one day.
- db
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: Unknown SCSI errors ...
Message-ID: <1994Oct12.033703.6666@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <1994Oct9.171720.601@knuelli.in-berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 03:37:03 GMT
In article <1994Oct9.171720.601@knuelli.in-berlin.de> juergen@knuelli.in-berlin.de writes:
>Hi,
>
>does anyone knows what this messages mean:
>
>Oct 9 15:43:32 knuelli mach: Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 410baH retry
>1
>
>All harddiscs (1GB Fujitsu, 420 MB Seagate) are ok (tested at a friends
>NeXT) and fsck and reformat doesn't change anything?! It seems that these
>messages only appear during writing ...
>
>Thanx for any hint
Jeez. Looks to me like your disk is indeed going. I was seeing similar
problems with mine, so I backed it up and formatted it for DOS. I then
ran the utility 'scandisk' which gave a nice graphical report of the
blocks which were going bad. Every time I ran the program another block
died... anyway, if you can back it up and try this, it might be useful
to you.
- darcy
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with the 'C' on it doesn't give you cold water.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT MegaPixel 17" Color Monitor and PC ???
Date: 12 Oct 1994 08:04:27 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <37g5ab$bq4@news.onramp.net>
References: <Cx68LD.FsD@microsoft.com>
In article <Cx68LD.FsD@microsoft.com> brianew@microsoft.com (Brian
Ewanchuk) writes:
>
> Is there any way to use a 17" Color Next Monitor with a standard PC???
Is there such a cable ?
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Brianew@microsoft.com
No, unless you have a Dell DG/X. NeXTanswers states that the NeXT color
monitors are incompatible with PC's.
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DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard of The Deanox Grou
Date: 12 Oct 1994 08:11:00 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <37g5mk$bu8@news.onramp.net>
References: <BWH.94Oct6020432@kato.prl.ufl.edu>
In article <BWH.94Oct6020432@kato.prl.ufl.edu> bwh@kato.prl.ufl.edu (Brian
Hook) writes:
>
> I haven't purchased anything from them, however I have dealt with the
guys
> there for a reasonable amount of time. They seem to be basically
> knowledgable, and VERY eager to please with different configurations,
> willing to experiment with new video cards, etc. and do the research
> necessary to get you a stable system.
We have some dealings with Deanox. Actually Dan Kramer (formerly at Talus
and now working with us) took a trip up to talk to the people at Denaux
last week and they asked Dan to help them get some info together on
configuring and building NS machines, so apparently thay are not very
knowlegeble about NS.
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From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 08:13:38 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <37g5ri$buk@news.onramp.net>
References: <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu> slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes:
> As much as it pains me to say it, the new Microsoft ergonomic keyboard
looks
> pretty cool. <sigh> I almost feel compelled to go out and buy one!
>
> Has anyone tried one of these dudes with NEXTSTEP? Can the little
"Windows"
> keys be used as Command keys? That would be cool. :-)
>
> Any info would be appreciated.
We are waiting for our first shipment of these keyboards to test with NS.
We have already had several requests for them. I'll post the info as soon
as it is available.
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Looking for NS hardware integrators
Message-ID: <CxJsHI.Cy@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 06:53:41 GMT
If you are a company that puts together NEXTSTEP for Intel systems, I
want to hear from you.
Specifically, I am looking for Intel Premiere/PCI II systems *WITH*
PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports.
Please reply to this mail address. NEXTMAIL/MIME accepted.
Thanks,
Robert
Robert La Ferla
HTI
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Looking for NS hardware integrators
Message-ID: <CxJrK0.8v@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 06:33:35 GMT
If you are a company that puts together NEXTSTEP for Intel systems, I
want to hear from you.
Specifically, I am looking for Intel Premiere/PCI II systems *WITH*
PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports.
Please reply to this mail address. NEXTMAIL/MIME accepted.
Thanks,
Robert
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: stephen@cci.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI 2 on NeXTStation?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 14:38:04 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <37gscc$a39@news.tamu.edu>
Does the non-Turbo NeXTStation actually use the SCSI 2 faster access speed of
SCSI 2 drives (internal or external) or does it just have the external SCSI 2
hardware connector?
Stephen Johnson
srjohnson@tamu.edu, (NeXTMail ok) Texas A&M University
Ass't Micro Computer Specialist Dept. of Food Services
409-845-3072 College Station, TX 77843-1374
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: richardh@asysa.demon.co.uk (Richard Hutchinson)
Subject: Intel Premiere P90 with Adaptec 1542CF
Organization: Advanced System Architectures Ltd.
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 14:53:20 +0000
Message-ID: <RICHARDH.94Oct12155320@gussie.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
We recently purchased the 90MHz version of Intel's Premiere PC,
intending to use it for NEXTSTEP. We have had good results (and
relatively straightforward setup) with the P60 version, so we thought
we'd go one better. Having had success with the old faithful 1542, we
bought one for the new machine, and that is where the fun started...
At first the Adaptec BIOS would not load correctly, and the machine
would hang after the SCSI devices had all been checked but before the
AMI BIOS could get another look in. In the end, the word came back
from Intel that the 1542 should be configured to use IRQ 10 in such a
system, and indeed we could then proceed to booting from the NEXTSTEP
boot floppy.
However, booting is not successful and we get a continual stream of
messages saying
"thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735"
The NeXTanswers documentation on the Adaptec 1542 driver update
mentions exactly this error, so we tried loading this driver during
installation, but to no avail.
I suspect that the change to IRQ 10 is screwing things up somewhere.
Is there anybody out there with similar problems? Anybody got any
ideas for a fix (other than downgrading to a P60 or trying a different
SCSI card)?
Thanks in advance...
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Subject: Epson printer on Cube? Help?
Message-ID: <1994Oct12.091209.4602@roper.uwyo.edu>
From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU
Date: 12 Oct 94 09:12:08 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie
Salutations!
I'm concidering purchasing a Cube. Is there _any_ way I
can get my Epsion Action Laser printer to work with this thing?
The printer is not currently PS compatable, but that card
can be added. It has both Serial & Parrallel ports. Any
suggestions?
Gene
ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: maikel@e_nx_ms.nl.stratus.com (maikel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intellect Pentium/90 system - video problem
Date: 12 Oct 1994 16:48:13 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <37h40d$maj@transfer.stratus.com>
HI,
Does anyone have a solution for an intellect pentium/90 system with the
on-board video card. The card is a CirrusLogic 5434.
This request is for a colleague. I am not sure what the error is, but the end
result is that it does not work. He has also tried a mirocrystal video card,
but with the same result. For the Cirrus there are drivers on the CD, but
these are not for the new series. ftp.next.com did not have an 'official'
driver.
Email responses to Frank_van_den_Berg@vos.stratus.com please.
Tx for your time, Maikel.
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 10:42:36 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37h3ls$5kh@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <griffon.317.000A0607@unixg.ubc.ca> <36pde6$hdr@anshar.shadow.net> <373mbo$efv@slowhand.nmb.com>
I just upgraded my #9 GXE64 Pro 2 MB to 4 MB. I have some impressions.
(1) 11xx x 8xx in (444) mode seems a wee bit slower.
(2) 11xx x 8xx in (888) mode is *much* slower.
(3) 1600 x 1200 in (444) mode is worth the $200 clams. Now, if my monitor
synched at 68 Hz....
(4) 1280 x 1024 in (444) mode is just right. More screen space, the dock
doesn't look too small, etc.
The perceived performance decrease in (444) mode is well worth the increased
real estate and the ability to run at a decent resolution in (888) mode.
...........................kris
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From: mduggan@nectech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What's the best notebook for running NEXTSTEP?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 17:51:41 GMT
Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA
Message-ID: <37h7nd$45m@cosmos.nectech.com>
References: <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
In article <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
coppinj@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com (John Coppinger) writes:
> Who has the best notebook for NEXTSTEP? I've heard about:
> 1. The laptop from Talus
> 2. A rumor of a great new Versa from NEC
Steve Jobs uses a Versa as does the NeXT development team.
> 3. Improved notebook support in NS Release 3.3.
NS3.3 PR2 has improved notebook support for the NEC Versa line, including
PCMCIA, 8-bit on screen and external monitor support, power saving, PCMCIA
ethernet hot load capability.
> I'm looking for a notebook that has the following:
> 1. At least 16M RAM (prefer 32M)
The Versa E, Versa V and the Versa M all support the 36MB, 36MB and 40MB.
We recommend the 32MB NEC ready memory module from Simple Technologies.
High performance at a low price.
> 2. At least 500M drive (prefer 1Gig)
NEC Versa's have 540MB and 810MB on the Versa M.
> 3. At least 486-DX2 66MHz
NEC offers the lower power DX/4 75MHz on the Versa E/V/M.
Also, the Versa with the new Intel 75MHz notebook specific Pentium will be
shown at Comdex.
> 4. At least 8-bit color with Release 3.3
The Versa E/V support 8 bit color on screen at 640x480 and external
1024x768 with drivers included in NS 3.3PR2.
The Versa M will offer 800x600x8bit color on screen for NS 3.3.
> 5. PowerBook-style wrist support
NEC Versa E/V/M have trackball, the Versa S is the one with the wrist rest
and the IBM trackpoint II.
> 6. PowerBook-style trackball or ThinkPad-style stick
See Above.
> I'm interested in any comments, suggestions or recommendations.
COMMENTS:
NEC is a leader in the Notebook world, has three year on-site warranty and
OVERNIGHT repair/replace service at no extra charge.
NEC has a COMPLETE line of notebooks from sub-notebooks to multimedia
Pentium notebooks.
Third party and aftermarket accessories market specifically for the NEC
Versa line is huge.
PCMCIA support for the VERSA E/V and M is already in NS 3.3 PR2 and it
works.
POWERSAVING application for the Versa line is already included in NS
3.3PR2.
8 BIT COLOR support for the Versa E/V and soon M is already in 3.3PR2.
Since NEC is the only manufacturer making the 800x600 color active matrix
screens, NEC will be the only notebook with them for quite a while.
NEC has a reputation for quality, reliability and innovation in the
notebook world. We have service centers in 131 countries around the
world, and every state in the USA.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike Duggan
Senior Software Engineer
NEC Technologies, Inc.
1414 Mass. Ave.
Boxborough, MA 01719
PHONE (508) 635-6461
FAX (508) 635-6111
General Information (800) NEC-INFO
INTERNET(NeXT Mail welcome!) mduggan@nectech.com
> Thanks,
>
> John Coppinger
> coppinj@dev.ny.us.swissbank.com
From: ken@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca (Ken Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <37h8bv$g80@seymour.sfu.ca>
Control: cancel <37h8bv$g80@seymour.sfu.ca>
Date: 12 Oct 1994 18:36:02 GMT
Organization: none
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37haai$ht1@seymour.sfu.ca>
References: <37h8bv$g80@seymour.sfu.ca>
Originator: ken@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca
<37h8bv$g80@seymour.sfu.ca> was cancelled from within rn.
From: ken@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca (Ken Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: right solution? many RS232 to Next
Date: 12 Oct 1994 18:39:01 GMT
Organization: none
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37hag5$i0p@seymour.sfu.ca>
Hi. I have an application that requires a large number of toasters to
upload information via modem to a central database. We currently run
on SCO Unix and use intelligent Digiboards, but want to move to
NS/I to take advantage of the graphical interface (among other reasons).
There doesn't seem to be a lot of support for intelligent multiport
RS232 boards for NS/I. I am looking for suggestions on how I can
support many dialin modems on NS/I. We currently support 8-32 ports, but
that could increase in the future.
In particular, what stable drivers are available for what boards? Someone
mentioned that a terminal server is a solution. I know nothing about these,
and less about them working with Next. Any pointers or help is very
appreciated.
Thanks!
- Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for NS hardware integrators
Message-ID: <CxKnCJ.1q8@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <CxJsHI.Cy@hot.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 18:00:18 GMT
Just further qualifying my post:
Intel Premiere/PCI II (90/100Mhz Pentium) motherboard
MUST have working PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse ports.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
In article <CxJsHI.Cy@hot.com> Robert La Ferla
<Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes:
> If you are a company that puts together NEXTSTEP for Intel systems, I
> want to hear from you.
>
> Specifically, I am looking for Intel Premiere/PCI II systems *WITH*
> PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports.
>
> Please reply to this mail address. NEXTMAIL/MIME accepted.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> Robert La Ferla
> HTI
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI 2 on NeXTStation?
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 15:28:22 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wib3XKa00iUyA6Jq8V@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <37gscc$a39@news.tamu.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Oct-94 SCSI 2 on
NeXTStation? by Stephen Johnson@cci.tamu
> Does the non-Turbo NeXTStation actually use the SCSI 2 faster access speed of
> SCSI 2 drives (internal or external) or does it just have the external SCSI 2
> hardware connector?
I believe the answer is "no, a NeXT does not use the faster access speed".
However, it's still a good idea to get SCSI-2 drives, since the OS and
various low-level SCSI utilities can deal with SCSI-2 drives better, and
if you move the drive to another machine which can do SCSI-2 as speed,
you'll get faster transfers then.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: shahrol@leland.Stanford.EDU (Shahrol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9 GXE level 11 with NSI 3.2?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:52:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <37heqk$4bq@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I think this might have been discussed before, but I missed all the
discussions (was it ever resolved?). I'm trying to get a #9GXE ISA
card with 2megs of VRAM to work with my Dell 4100/MXV running 3.2. I
have 24 megs RAM, Adaptec 1542 and Etherlink III cards. The monitor
is a Radius PrecisionColor Display 17. This setup works fine (in
grayscale) with the built-in video with 2 meg VRAM, but I want color!
I read in this group that a fix to the problem is to run both the Beta
3.2 driver and the default VGA driver, but no go. Has anyone else
been thru this problem before and has the steps to make this work?
TIA,
-Shahrol
shahrol@harper.stanford.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How does NS/FIP see DOS partitions?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 20:27:52 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <37hgs8$h4p@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171117.17514B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> <37c1gp$6p@panix.com>
In article <37c1gp$6p@panix.com>, Alec H. Peterson <chuckie@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171117.17514B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>,
>Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:
>>I am interested in installing NeXT Step, but I want to have access to all
>>my DOS FAT partitions. I will have a primary and secondary IDE partition
>>(on drive c: a 525 Meg IDE), and then, I will have two partitions on my
>>1 Gig SCSI disk formatted for FAT. There will a NS partition on the same
>>SCSI disk. Then, I will have two CD-ROM (SCSI ID 3 and 4) and a 128 Meg
>>Fujitsu M-O drive (SCSI ID 2). I would like for NS to be able to access
>>the FAT files on those drives without any fuss. Is this possible? I
>>plan on using the Talus driver for the 53C825 Asus card.
>
>They should automatically be mounted when you login each time. I have a
>DOS partition on my NeXTstep disk and it works fine. NeXTstep probes all
>disks for valid partitions and mounts all that it finds.
>
I believe that NS will mount only the first Dos Partition per logical drive
it finds. I also thought it could only handle "primary" dos partitions,
but I could be wrong about this point.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 21:50:54 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37hlnu$fgk@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <37h3ls$5kh@xmission.xmission.com>
> (3) 1600 x 1200 in (444) mode is worth the $200 clams. Now, if my
monitor
> synched at 68 Hz....
I believe that #9 claims that this card can only run at 60Hz, given its
RAMDAC. A newer version, out in about 1 month, will use a higher speed
DAC. Am I incorrect here?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: termini@iat.holonet.net (Tom Termini)
Subject: how do i find a used NeXT?
Message-ID: <CxKz9K.9Fu@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access System: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 22:17:43 GMT
suppose i wanted to get into NeXt the hardware way...what would be a good
system (cube or pizza box?) color monitor? laser printer? software?
where would be a good place to track this kind of stuff down? I'm no
digital slouch, but I've only seen NeXt at my local Universities and at
trade shows...
help/assistance would be greatly appreciated...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Subject: Black: cannot boot from CD-ROM anymore
Message-ID: <1994Oct12.222750.279@rna.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.nl
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 22:27:50 GMT
I have this strange problem lately. It seems to be related to the permamnent
RAM. When I push Cmd-Cmd-~ and I am in the monitor and I type 'bsd', the boot
process starts, but goes into waiting:
boot sd(0,0,0)sdmach
Booting SCSI target 0 lun 0
waiting for drive to come ready............. [indefinitely]
I push Cmd-Cmd-~ again and this time no wait but a normal boot process.
If on the other hand I type 'b' instead of 'bsd', no such problem appears,
probably due to the fact that the bootparameters from the RAM take over(? -
only guessing)
The rather nasty effect of all this is that I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive
anymore. If I type
bsd(2,0,0) sdmach rootdev=sd2a
I get the same 'waiting for drive to come ready' problem.
I don't know enough from SCSI drives/cables/protocols nor of the bootrom in the
NeXT computers to solve this one, and therefore I need your help.
This is a 25MHz 040 cube, with OD and external floppy drive sd3 (PLI) and
CD-ROM (NeXT) sd2, an internal Maxtor 340MB sd1 and an external SCSI disk sd0
(boot disk, SCSI id 0).
Thanks,
--
gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: grif@corsa.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: serial mice on black hardware?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 23:09:57 GMT
Organization: UC Riverside, Dept. of Computer Science
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <37hqc5$m1u@galaxy.ucr.edu>
I know about the trick of using a Logitech bus mouse on black hardware,
but I would like to connect a serial mouse to either the A or B port
on a NeXtstation. Has anyone done this?
--
Michael A. Griffith (grif@cs.ucr.edu)
Department of Computer Science
University of California, Riverside
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Premiere P90 with Adaptec 1542CF
Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:22:50 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <37hr4a$rej@panix.com>
References: <RICHARDH.94Oct12155320@gussie.demon.co.uk>
In article <RICHARDH.94Oct12155320@gussie.demon.co.uk>,
Richard Hutchinson <richardh@asysa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>We recently purchased the 90MHz version of Intel's Premiere PC,
>intending to use it for NEXTSTEP. We have had good results (and
>relatively straightforward setup) with the P60 version, so we thought
>we'd go one better. Having had success with the old faithful 1542, we
>bought one for the new machine, and that is where the fun started...
>
>At first the Adaptec BIOS would not load correctly, and the machine
>would hang after the SCSI devices had all been checked but before the
>AMI BIOS could get another look in. In the end, the word came back
>from Intel that the 1542 should be configured to use IRQ 10 in such a
>system, and indeed we could then proceed to booting from the NEXTSTEP
>boot floppy.
>
>However, booting is not successful and we get a continual stream of
>messages saying
>
> "thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735"
>
>The NeXTanswers documentation on the Adaptec 1542 driver update
>mentions exactly this error, so we tried loading this driver during
>installation, but to no avail.
Hmm, the driver update should fix it. However, try turning off the various
options that the update documentation mentions (I believe partiotns > 1GB
is among them, as well as Scan SCSI bus for devices dynamically).
Alec
--
Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet
chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 GXE level 11 with NSI 3.2?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 19:24:05 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <37hr6l$rpd@panix.com>
References: <37heqk$4bq@nntp.stanford.edu>
In article <37heqk$4bq@nntp.stanford.edu>,
Shahrol <shahrol@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>
>I think this might have been discussed before, but I missed all the
>discussions (was it ever resolved?). I'm trying to get a #9GXE ISA
>card with 2megs of VRAM to work with my Dell 4100/MXV running 3.2. I
>have 24 megs RAM, Adaptec 1542 and Etherlink III cards. The monitor
>is a Radius PrecisionColor Display 17. This setup works fine (in
>grayscale) with the built-in video with 2 meg VRAM, but I want color!
>
>I read in this group that a fix to the problem is to run both the Beta
>3.2 driver and the default VGA driver, but no go. Has anyone else
>been thru this problem before and has the steps to make this work?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't NeXTStep require a VLB/PCI video
card for color video?
Alec
--
Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet
chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: #9 GXE level 11 with NSI 3.2?
Message-ID: <CxL40K.Mq5@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <37heqk$4bq@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 00:02:53 GMT
Shahrol (shahrol@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: I read in this group that a fix to the problem is to run both the Beta
: 3.2 driver and the default VGA driver, but no go. Has anyone else
: been thru this problem before and has the steps to make this work?
What are your IRQ and address settings for each of the video drivers,
Shahrol?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: WoolveSR.ctrvax.Vanderbilt.edu (Stephen)
Subject: wanted: specs on black hardware
Message-ID: <WoolveSR.ctrvax.Vanderbilt.edu-121094213052@remote1.vanderbilt.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: Vanderbilt
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 02:36:38 GMT
I'm tired of fighting with white hardware.
I'd like to switch to black.
So I'm looking for specs on all the black hardware.
FAQ?
if such a lists exhists:
post or
WoolveSR@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
thanks
Stephen
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: P5-90 System Benchmarks
Date: 12 Oct 1994 22:53:43 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37i7fn$cf6@anshar.shadow.net>
All tests performed on the following system:
System: Gateway P5-90 (Intel Premiere II/PCI)
RAM: 32MB
SCSI: NCR 53C825 (Talus driver)
Disk: Micropolis 4110
Video: ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (mach64) 4MB PCI
1152x896 72hz 555/16
Active Drivers = SerialPorts, ParallelPort, ATI_PCI_mach64,
SoundBlaster16, NEXTIME_Sound
BootDrivers = PS2Keyboard, PS2Mouse, Floppy, PCI NCR53C8XX
DrivePerformance.app:
Write Index 2.8 2109kb/sec
Read Index 2.3 2225kb/sec
Overall Index 2.52
IOZone (24MB Test File)
Write 1999194 bytes/sec
Read 2372644 bytes/sec
NXBench:
NXFactor: 1.457281 (555/16)
1.838225 (888/32)
NWBench:
Dhrystone 132158 MIPS 83.909843
Graphics V/V 24.688 D/V 7.232
Disk 3152.0824 KB/sec
Webster 25.406855
Compile 32.282841
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help needed: MO cart with OS on it...
Date: 13 Oct 1994 03:08:13 GMT
Organization: GlobalCom
Message-ID: <37i8at$qbo@goodnews.globalcom.net>
I am hoping that someone out on the Net has a MO cartridge with
the full Next Release v1.0 or greater on it.
I just bought my Cube, and while I have Wingz and Mathematica
for it, unfortunately many of the other applications, etc. were
deleted because the previous owner didn't think they were
important, and needed the space for his Mathematica models.
He removed Common Lisp, for one, as well as Shakespeare, plus many
of the demos (like the sound and scorefile ones), and certain parts of
but not all of Interface Builder. So, it is a real mess.
If anyone can help me with this, let me know. I can either trade
you a MO cart for another MO cart; or else, let me know what you
want for your cartridge.
Thanks
Patrick Giagnocavo
Voice 703-432-4871
Fax 703-432-4444
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 GXE level 11 with NSI 3.2?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 05:16:08 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <37ifqo$cel@news.bu.edu>
References: <37heqk$4bq@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Shahrol (shahrol@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: I think this might have been discussed before, but I missed all the
: discussions (was it ever resolved?). I'm trying to get a #9GXE ISA
: card with 2megs of VRAM to work with my Dell 4100/MXV running 3.2. I
: have 24 megs RAM, Adaptec 1542 and Etherlink III cards. The monitor
: is a Radius PrecisionColor Display 17. This setup works fine (in
: grayscale) with the built-in video with 2 meg VRAM, but I want color!
Unfortunately the bad news is: no VLB or proprietary version of the same
concept (JAWS, Wingine, Whatever the Canon object.stations are using), ==
no color, only shades of grey.
No matter how good the card, or how much RAM you have on it, an ISA bus
doesn't have the bandwidth necessary to do color under NeXTSTEP.
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: For those who have Adaptec 1540/2's and EZ-SCSI
Date: 13 Oct 1994 01:54:12 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <37ip34$rd9@argo.unm.edu>
Did anybody out there buy their 1540/42 with EZ-SCSI? I don't seem to have
a working version of ASPICD.SYS, and I wondered if someone could uuencode
and mail it to me.
ASPICD.sys is strictly for the evil DOS side of my white NeXTStep hardware,
but seems indispensable.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How does NS/FIP see DOS partitions?
Date: 12 Oct 1994 18:07:03 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <37hq6n$jvd@cobber.cord.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171117.17514B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> <37c1gp$6p@panix.com>
In article <37c1gp$6p@panix.com>, Alec H. Peterson <chuckie@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008171117.17514B-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>,
>Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> wrote:
>>I am interested in installing NeXT Step, but I want to have access to all
>>my DOS FAT partitions. I will have a primary and secondary IDE partition
>>(on drive c: a 525 Meg IDE), and then, I will have two partitions on my
>>1 Gig SCSI disk formatted for FAT. There will a NS partition on the same
>>SCSI disk. Then, I will have two CD-ROM (SCSI ID 3 and 4) and a 128 Meg
>>Fujitsu M-O drive (SCSI ID 2). I would like for NS to be able to access
>>the FAT files on those drives without any fuss. Is this possible? I
>>plan on using the Talus driver for the 53C825 Asus card.
>
>They should automatically be mounted when you login each time. I have a
>DOS partition on my NeXTstep disk and it works fine. NeXTstep probes all
>disks for valid partitions and mounts all that it finds.
I would like to know how to prevent NeXTstep from doing this. Is this done
in the rc files? NeXTstep seems to disregard my fstab entries for the
DOS ide drives and the CDROM drive. I want these devices mounted as
specified by the fstab. NeXTstep seems to automount these devices before
it looks at the fstab. When it finally looks at the fstab, it complains
that these devices couldn't be mounted because they are busy (and of course
the are because they were already automounted).
The reason I want to do this is because I want these devices mounted to
permanent mount points so I can export them. NeXTstep automounts these
devices onto mount points named after the drive's disk label.
I asked this question before but got no response.
>Alec
>
>--
>Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet
>chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
--
Jonathan A. Doroin
doroin@cobber.cord.edu
doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: richardh@asysa.demon.co.uk (Richard Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Intel Premiere P90 with Adaptec 1542CF
In-Reply-To: richardh@asysa.demon.co.uk's message of Wed, 12 Oct 1994 14:53:20 GMT
Organization: Advanced System Architectures Ltd.
References: <RICHARDH.94Oct12155320@gussie.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 09:22:29 +0000
Message-ID: <RICHARDH.94Oct13102229@gussie.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Hutchinson <richardh@asysa.demon.co.uk> writes:
Richard> At first the Adaptec BIOS would not load correctly, and
Richard> the machine would hang after the SCSI devices had all
Richard> been checked but before the AMI BIOS could get another
Richard> look in. In the end, the word came back from Intel that
Richard> the 1542 should be configured to use IRQ 10 in such a
Richard> system, and indeed we could then proceed to booting from
Richard> the NEXTSTEP boot floppy.
Richard> However, booting is not successful and we get a continual
Richard> stream of messages saying
Richard> "thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735"
Thanks to those who responded. As is always the way, I found a way
round the problem soon after posting.
In the AMI BIOS Advanced Configuration Settings there are a couple of
options for marking IRQs 10 and 11 as "Free" or "Used". It seems that
the PCI code can claim either of these for itself unless they are
marked as "Used" --- I therefore set the Adaptec back to IRQ 11 and
marked IRQ 11 as "Used", and NEXTSTEP is loading as I write. :-)
____________________________________________________________________________
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From: bm10009@cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help - Fimi 17" - On the way out?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 12:41:42 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <37j9u6$idu@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Recently my old Fimi NeXT colour monitor has started to black out
periodically. (It can be revived by turning on and off). Has anyone else
seen this behaviour? Is it the power supply?
Grateful for any advice,
Ben.
--
______________________________________________________________________
Ben Moseley bm10009@cus.cam.ac.uk ** NeXTmail OK **
"To drop is human, to juggle divine."
______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ossip@math.fu-berlin.de (Ossip Kaehr)
Subject: Re: ? IBM-0662S12 (1GB-harddisk) as bootdrive on Black HW?
Message-ID: <0OFTB1PS@math.fu-berlin.de>
Keywords: IBM harddisk boot 0662
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
References: <36u3oe$13m@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:32:39 GMT
... and while you're at it, could somebody mail me the jumper settings
for internal termination (for the 0664 2GB , I guess their similar)
it ran perfect as external, but won't run as single internal disk in a
slab.
thanks a lot in advance!
ossip kaehr
ossip@math.fu-berlin.de
tel+fax +49.30.6924248
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:52:52 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37jhk4$r6p@news.iastate.edu>
References: <37hlnu$fgk@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <37hlnu$fgk@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
> I believe that #9 claims that this card can only run at 60Hz, given its
> RAMDAC. A newer version, out in about 1 month, will use a higher speed
> DAC. Am I incorrect here?
A Number Nine sales representative told me about this card. It is called
the GXE64Pro1600 and has a 220 RAMDAC, permitting higher refresh rates,
particularly at 1600x1200. It is available in 2MB, with an additional 4MB
for $200 more. Other than the RAMDAC, it is the same as the GXE64Pro, but
they claim that the RAMDAC of a standard GXE64Pro can not be updated...
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory
College of Veterinary Medicine
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
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From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 12:47:55 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
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References: <37hlnu$fgk@news.mic.ucla.edu> <37jhk4$r6p@news.iastate.edu>
Rod Ragner (rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu) wrote:
: In article <37hlnu$fgk@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
: Welch) writes:
: > I believe that #9 claims that this card can only run at 60Hz, given its
: > RAMDAC. A newer version, out in about 1 month, will use a higher speed
: > DAC. Am I incorrect here?
: A Number Nine sales representative told me about this card. It is called
: the GXE64Pro1600 and has a 220 RAMDAC, permitting higher refresh rates,
: particularly at 1600x1200. It is available in 2MB, with an additional 4MB
: for $200 more. Other than the RAMDAC, it is the same as the GXE64Pro, but
: they claim that the RAMDAC of a standard GXE64Pro can not be updated...
I suspect that should be $200 to upgrade from 2MB to 4MB, not to add 4MB
for a total of 6.... At least, that's the upgrade pricing I was told about
for the GXE64Pro card about a week ago.
--
Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section
OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 GXE level 11 with NSI 3.2?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:30:48 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <37jqs8$aao@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <37heqk$4bq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <37ifqo$cel@news.bu.edu>
Bryony Bechtold (bbry@bu.edu) wrote:
: Unfortunately the bad news is: no VLB or proprietary version of the same
: concept (JAWS, Wingine, Whatever the Canon object.stations are using), ==
: no color, only shades of grey.
: No matter how good the card, or how much RAM you have on it, an ISA bus
: doesn't have the bandwidth necessary to do color under NeXTSTEP.
Wrong. Some months ago, we were delievered a miro 8s as ISA version (S3
80x chip, 1MB DRAM). Before out dealer replaced it with the VLB version,
we gave it a chance with NEXTSTEP. It worked at 800x600/16-bit color
(NXBench score 0.25 with an DX2/66, I think). It wasn't _that_ bad, in
fact I was quite astonished that NEXTSTEP could be used in color with an
ISA bus.
Not that I'd like to propagate this configuration, but it is possible!
Gregor
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From: rhess@adoc.xerox.COM (Richard L. Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: anyone using Teac's SuperQuad 4x CDRom drive?...
Date: 13 Oct 94 10:16:14
Organization: Xerox AODS, Palo Alto, California.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RHESS.94Oct13101614@adoc.xerox.COM>
Does anyone out there know whether or not you can use Teac's new SuperQuad
4x CDRom drive with Black hardware? Anyone tried it? Any hints as to whether
or not it's even feasible? Thanks for the info,
Dick...
+-------------------------------------------------------------[ Richard Hess ]
phone: 415.813.7330
email: rhess@adoc.xerox.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
Subject: Re: NeXT monitor microphone jack (mono or stereo)?
Message-ID: <gcrowCxMFzB.IFK@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <GARMSTRO.94Oct11192422@martin.re.ualberta.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:16:23 GMT
garmstro@martin.re.ualberta.ca wrote:
: Here's a short, trivial question.
: Is the microphone jack on the back of a NeXT monitor for a mono or stereo
: plug?
: --glen
: --
The microphone input on the NeXT monitor is mono and uses a standard
telephone codec for A/D conversion. That means that it is good mainly
for voice and is sampled at approximately 8KHz.
From: b0438555@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Markus Strickler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Daydream and Scanners
Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:36:47 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Message-ID: <37jr7fINN4sid@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>
From: ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu (H. Paul Hammann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody try to multiboot with multiple SCSI drives?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 17:43:25 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37jrjt$1dr@golf.ustores.missouri.edu>
Keywords: multiboot, SCSI, OS
Hello all,
I'm curious if anyone has tried this with NS/FIP.
In my planning to get a NS/FIP machine I had been thinking of how to
easily get it to boot multiple OSs. I thought that perhaps if I bought a
SCSI controller with no internal drive, I could buy external drives where the
SCSI id is easily setable. Then when I wanted to boot another OS I could
just turn the machine off, go to the hard disk that had the OS I wanted,
change the SCSI address to zero and then boot away. Since (I think) the SCSI
protocol boots off of the lowest address of SCSI devices attached this should
work.
If anyone has tried this and been successful or not, please let me know.
Regards, ___
/\__\ NeXT, SGI, & Sun sysadmin
H. Paul Hammann \/__/ Campus Computing
ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu NeXTSTEP U. of Missouri - Columbia
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How does NS/FIP see DOS partitions?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:10:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <37jt62$s0s@cs.ubc.ca>
References: <37hq6n$jvd@cobber.cord.edu>
In article <37hq6n$jvd@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon
Doroin) writes:
> [How do you mount DOS partitions at boot?]
I mount mine at boot in /etc/rc.local, using the DOS.util utility in
/usr/filesystems/DOS.fs:
cd /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs
DOS.util -m sd0 /mounts/dos_drive fixed writable
(I think that's right; I don't have the rc.local script in front of me.)
This mounts the DOS partition from my SCSI drive 0. Use hd0 for IDE
drives. By setting permissions on the mounts directory, you can somewhat
restrict access to the DOS partition (probably only all or none, though).
I also seem to recall that you needed to chdir to the DOS.fs directory
before invoking the DOS.util program. This prevents Workspace Manager
from mounting the DOS partitions at login time (although it does give
warnings about "device busy" on the console).
Here's a blurb posted by Erik Kay from NeXT back in June:
From: erikkay@next.com (Erik Kay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mount DOS partition?
Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:09:11 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
In article <2t7i6i$fce@email.tuwien.ac.at>
michael@cogito.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Suessner) writes:
] Hi,
] I have on my internal IDE disk a 30MB DOS partition, which is
automatically
] mounted by the WM when I login.
] How can I mount this partition, if I login from a terminal? Do I have to
be
] root to do this?
]
] I tried the following command, which failed:
] > mount -t dos /dev/hd0b /
Unfortunately, as you found out, mount doesn't force the loadable
filesystems to load into memory (this is a bug in mount). Once the
filesystem has been loaded, you can use mount to mount the filesystem.
However, what you tried to mount is a little wrong.
When mounting a DOS partition, you need to specify the raw, live
partition. /dev/hd0b specifies the second UNIX partition on the disk, and
doesn't have anything to do with DOS paritioning. Secondly, you need to
give it a valid mount point. If you try to give '/' as the mount point,
mount will give you an error message that looks something like:
mount: /dev/... on /: File exists
mount: giving up on
/
So, assuming the the DOS filesystem is loaded (I'll get to that in a sec),
you would have typed:
> mount -t dos /dev/rhd0h /dos_disk
(or some other mount point name of your choosing)
Now, I'm assuming that maybe you're rlogging into a machine before anyone
has logged in, or you're in some situation where the DOS filesystem hasn't
been loaded yet. In this case, the above inocation isn't enough. You'll
have to load things manually. To do this, we'll bypass the whole mount
thing altogether, and just use the method that Workspace uses to mount DOS
(and other foreign fileystsem) disks.
In the directory /usr/filesystems, there are a number of directories
called *.fs, where * is the names of the various filesystems. We
currently ship DOS, mac, CDROM and cdaudio in NEXTSTEP. Each of these
filesystems has an executable inside of it named *.util. Each of these
responds to the same sort of (slightly confusing, and not really intended
to be executed directly by people) syntax to probe and to mount foreign
filesystems.
In this case, let's look at DOS.fs/DOS.util. If you just type the command
by itself, it will give you a usage line:
$ DOS.util
usage: DOS.util action device [[mount_point] removable writable]
action:
-p (Probe)
-m (Mount)
-i (Initialize)
-r (Repair)
-u (Unmount)
So to use this to mount the DOS partition by hand, simply say:
$ DOS.util -m hd0 /dos_disk fixed writable
There are a couple of important points here:
the device should be simply of the form hd0, not hd0a or rhd0a, etc.
the last two arguments are actually two state:
removable or fixed
writable or readonly
This command will load the filesystem if necessary, then mount the
filesystem if possible.
Those details aside, let me give you a caveat: these commands were really
only intended to be executed by workspace in one particular way. They're
not particularly flexible, and their error messages are not informative if
they exist at all. They aren't documented anywhere, etc. I don't
recommend them for casual use.
The obvious solution for us here is not to make these commands more robust
and documented, but rather to make mount and other related commands
smarter. Hopefully that will happen in the not too distant future.
hope that helps,
Erik
--
Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca)
Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: Anyone with Canon's PowerHouse Systems, or NeXT PowerPC effort?
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I would like to correspond with anyone who was involved in the original
NeXT dual PowerPC workstation effort or who is now working with the
PowerHouse subsidiary of Canon. As I posted from my America On-Line
account the other day, I am researching the PPC platform shift for my PhD.
I have come to the conclusion that Canon has the most interesting
contribution to make amongst the non-big-three part of the PPC group.
They have NeXT Step software, extremely interesting video and I/O stuff
from their object.station line, are strategically placed in Japan and also
have a bunch of other technologies that IBM is interested in like color
inkjet and s promising LCD technology. I am thinking that the Canon-IBM
relationship has the potential to become extremely strong and
interdependent. Anyone have anything they'd be willing to share? I can
establish my purely academic credentials if that is important. Also does
Canon/Powerhouse have a WWW server of anonymouus FTP site that would have
any interesting documents? Thanks a bunch.
Matt
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: anyone using Teac's SuperQuad 4x CDRom drive?...
Date: 13 Oct 1994 19:06:40 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37k0g0$41b@news.iastate.edu>
References: <RHESS.94Oct13101614@adoc.xerox.COM>
In article <RHESS.94Oct13101614@adoc.xerox.COM> rhess@adoc.xerox.COM
(Richard L. Hess) writes:
>
> Does anyone out there know whether or not you can use Teac's new
SuperQuad
> 4x CDRom drive with Black hardware? Anyone tried it? Any hints as to
whether
> or not it's even feasible? Thanks for the info,
I sincerely doubt it, since it is NOT a SCSI CD-ROM. I read in a magazine
last month (PC World I think it was) that it performed poorly compared to
other 4x drives...
Check out the 4Plex and the new NEC 4xi and 4xe drives. I have heard that
the 4Plex from Plextor works great. The NEC 4x drives are new (priced 15%
less than their 4xPro) and I know of nobody who has tried one yet.
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Best laptop for NEXTSTEP (Steve Sarich)
Date: 13 Oct 1994 20:58:44 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37k724$kq1@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
In article <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
coppinj@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com (John Coppinger), mike duggan
blusters (mduggan@nec.com):
> > Who has the best notebook for NEXTSTEP? I've heard about:
> > 1. The laptop from Talus
> > 2. A rumor of a great new Versa from NEC
> Steve Jobs uses a Versa as does the NeXT development team.
He gets his for free :-)) (besides, can you imagine Steve Jobs with a
Talus notebook on his desk? He'd rather eat steak at a topless bar :-)
> > 3. Improved notebook support in NS Release 3.3.
> NS3.3 PR2 has improved notebook support for the
> NEC Versa line, including PCMCIA, 8-bit on screen
> and external monitor support, power saving,
> PCMCIA ethernet hot load capability.
There is one, count'em, ONE PCMCIA driver for one single card in 3.3PR2 so
far...I hardly call that support! All the above features have been
promised, but thus far we have yet to see them. Talus is doing PCMCIA for
3.2. The drivers will of course be updated to 3.3 by the time it ships.
As for color, 8-bit is swell, but it's not nearly as nice as 16-bit (which
is available _today_ on the Talus T-100)
> > I'm looking for a notebook that has the following:
> > 1. At least 16M RAM (prefer 32M)
> The Versa E, Versa V and the Versa M all support
> the 36MB, 36MB and 40MB. We recommend the 32MB
> NEC ready memory module from Simple Technologies.
> High performance at a low price.
NEC Versas low priced? How can you write this without following it with a
smiley face? :~) ....you must mean the RAM. We'll be happy to post a
price comparision between the Talus T-100 and the Versa if that helps.
> > 2. At least 500M drive (prefer 1Gig)
> NEC Versa's have 540MB and 810MB on the Versa M.
Well, you can _buy_ the 810, but NS won't see it :-(( (even in 3.3
according to NeXT)
> > 3. At least 486-DX2 66MHz
> NEC offers the lower power DX/4 75MHz on the
> Versa E/V/M.
The Talus T-100 offers the faster "lower power" consumption DX/4 100MHz at
a price much lower than the 75MHz Versa.
> Also, the Versa with the new Intel 75MHz notebook
> specific Pentium will be shown at Comdex.
Lots of future products will be shown at Comdex. Let us know when it's a
_shipping_ product:-)
> > 4. At least 8-bit color with Release 3.3
> The Versa E/V support 8 bit color on screen at
> 640x480 and external 1024x768 with drivers
> included in NS 3.3PR2. The Versa M will offer
> 800x600x8bit color on screen for NS 3.3.
Talus will definitely offer an 800x600 model as well. We could go on and
on about what Talus will have shipping in the future, but we prefer to
talk about what we are shipping today. Exactly what laptop solutions does
NEC have shipping at the moment?
> > 5. PowerBook-style wrist support
> NEC Versa E/V/M have trackball, the Versa S is
> the one with the wrist rest and the IBM
> trackpoint II.
If I'm not mistaken, the Versa S will not run NS in color. Please correct
me if I'm wrong.
> > 6. PowerBook-style trackball or ThinkPad-style stick
> See Above.
> > I'm interested in any comments, suggestions or
> > recommendations.
COMMENTS:
> NEC is a leader in the Notebook world, has three
> year on-site warranty and OVERNIGHTrepair/replace
> service at no extra charge. NEC has a COMPLETE
> line of notebooks from sub-notebooks to multimedia
> Pentium notebooks. Third party and aftermarket
> accessories market specifically for the NEC Versa
> line is huge.
But not one color NS notebook shipping today.
> PCMCIA support for the VERSA E/V and M is already
> in NS 3.3 PR2 and it works. POWERSAVING
> application for the Versa line is already included
> in NS 3.3PR2. 8 BITCOLOR support for the Versa
> E/V and soon M is already in 3.3PR2.
..shipping some unspecified time in the future, providing the drivers are
actually available, which they aren't as of today. (Nor is the driver kit
to write them with)
> Since NEC is the only manufacturer making the
> 800x600 color active matrix screens, NEC will be
> the only notebook with them for quite a while.
Well, not quite, Sony and Sharp are both planning to release 800x600 as
well. As to who will have theirs actually _shipping_ first, no one really
knows. The reports we get indicate that the yield manufacturers are
currently getting on the 800x600 displays is far too low to meet
production requirements. You can bet, however, that NEC will not be the
only company with an 800x600 screen. We've already talked with at least
three manufacturers who also plan on _showing_ them next month. But again,
this is all still vapor-talk.
Right now, the Talus T-100 is the ONLY color NS laptop. It's shipping
today and it's substantially cheaper, and faster, than the Versa E. Who
will eventually ship "what" and "when" is simply a matter of conjecture.
I prefer reality :-)
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
steve@talus.com
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NCR Driver Registration
Date: 13 Oct 1994 21:21:31 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37k8cr$mcl@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
We at Talus have received a number of reports from people who have had NCR
SCSI driver incompatibilities. The driver isn't perfect, and we're
continually trying to improve it. Thanks for sticking with us.
In view of some of these problems, we often provide integrators with eval
copies, so they can ascertain that our driver works with their hardware
before selling you a machine that you'll have problems with later. While
we given out a number of evaluation copies to integrators, not all of them
have purchased our driver.
However, we're now getting numerous driver support calls from people using
systems with drivers which were supposedly given out to integrators on an
eval basis and who loaded them onto machines they sold to their customers
without paying for them.
If you buy a machine with a Talus driver installed, you should also
receive a warranty card (with serial number), labelled disk (with a serial
number) and a copy of our license agreement. If you do not, please ask
your integrator to supply you with these items. If he can not do this,
please contact Jason@talus.com and we'll see if we can solve the problem
for you. If you haven't purchased a machine yet, check with the
integrator to make sure that you will actually receive the original disk
and warranty card.
Also, please make sure you send in your registration card so we can
provide you with updates! We will be releasing an updated version of the
NCR driver for 3.2 very shortly and you'll need to register your driver to
be eligible for an update.
Thanks,
Steve & the Talus crew
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Best laptop for NEXTSTEP (Steve Sarich)
Date: 13 Oct 1994 21:36:05 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37k985$v0@rosie.next.com>
References: <37k724$kq1@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
In article <37k724$kq1@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
writes:
| In article <COPPINJ.94Oct7131628@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com>
| coppinj@ny1d129nwk.dev.ny.us.swissbank.com (John Coppinger), mike duggan
| blusters (mduggan@nec.com):
|
|
| > > 2. At least 500M drive (prefer 1Gig)
|
[..deleted..]
| > NEC Versa's have 540MB and 810MB on the Versa M.
|
| Well, you can _buy_ the 810, but NS won't see it :-(( (even in 3.3
| according to NeXT)
|
[..deleted..]
The 3.3 release will support large IDE drives if the BIOS does geometry
translation. To my knowledge most BIOS's shipping now do so.
If your BIOS does not do the translation you will not be able to use the large
drives since you can't boot from them.
-Rakesh
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Best price for Quantum LPS 540?
Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:41:01 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Sender: Bruce Patton
Message-ID: <37juvt$saq@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
I have decided to replace the noisy aircraft turbine that calls itself
a Seagate 400 MB drive in my Next slab with a quieter drive. I am
leaning toward a Quantum LPS 540. The best price I have found is about
$280.00. Does anyone know of a cheaper price? Ideally, I would like to
order from a place that deals with Next equipment regularly and can
send it preformatted. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Bruce
(bwp@engin.umich.edu)
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Falcon Systems as VAR for Canon Object.station
Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:29:08 -0400
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
Falcon Systems has applied to be a VAR for the Canon Object.station.
However, Canon is requiring Falcon to commit to a minimum number of
of systems. Without significant interest from the NeXT community,
Falcon can't make that commitment.
If your interested in the Canon Object.station, and you would like to
deal with a reliable supplier, please call Michael Hyatt at Falcon
Systems, (800)326-1002. Yes, Canon may be a reliable supplier, if
your willing to pay full list and deal with finding someone in their
customer service department familiar with this relatively minor
product.
Falcon is a nation wide supplier of computers and peripherals, including
HP systems, disk drives, memory and, if the VAR application is accepted,
Intel systems which work with NeXTstep. We have used them as our
peripheral supplier for NeXTstations for about a year now and have never
had a problem.
I'm not affiliated with, nor do I speak for, Falcon systems. I am,
however, a very satisfied customer of theirs who would like to see them
sell the Canon Object.station.
Christopher D. Audley
Watch Hill Investment Partners
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Broken serial on Black hardware
Message-ID: <bbutlerCxMuoq.ALC@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 22:34:01 GMT
I have a NextStation (color, non-turbo) with a broken serial port. I think
I've diagnosed the problem, but I'd like to get opinions (if there are any
out there) before I take steps to fix it.
Only one of the two ports is bad. It seems that the bad port can transmit,
but doesn't receive. If I turn on getty on that port, it continually prints
the login message. The transmit of the terminal seems OK, and the terminal
works on the other port. By probing the motherboard it looks like the signal
isn't passing through the NE5180 receiver. The output of the receiver going
into the 8530 is always low, which would explain the behavior, in that it
thinks its getting a continuous stream of bits.
So, this leads me to the conclusion that the 5180 is bad, and I'm preparing to
replace the chip. I have the right tools for surface mount work, and the
machine is well out of warranty, so I'm not afraid of doing this, but I
would like to be reasonably confident before I attempt major surgery on my
system.
I'm a little wary because only the one buffer seems to be bad.
Since both ports share the same 5180, the other buffers on the chip must be
OK. Since chips USUALLY go bad all at once, I want to be reasonably sure that
this is the problem. If anyone else has any theories, I would like to hear
them.
TIA
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From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: re: Talus Laptop/Object Station
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:00:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Sheffield
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> What's _really_ surprising is that they chose not to produce a PCI
> machine, rather than a VLB, at the same time everyone else in the
> industry was moving to PCI
>
OK, right, that's it, I've had enough.
I admit it, I'm ignorant.
But I don't want to be...
Would somebody please very slowly and carefully explain what is the difference
between all these different busses, and why they should affect your purchasing
habits. I know ISA's the runt of the litter now, but that's about it...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
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From: WoolveSR.ctrvax.Vanderbilt.edu (Stephen)
Subject: wanted: specs for all black hardware
Message-ID: <WoolveSR.ctrvax.Vanderbilt.edu-131094211059@remote1.vanderbilt.edu>
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 02:06:56 GMT
i'm looking to buy some used black hardware.
but we need the specs for all the models before purchasing.
(faq?)
post or email
woolvesr@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
thanks
stephen
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Subject: Re: NWBench.app scores
Message-ID: <1994Oct14.005644.12592@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
References: <376sj9$2j6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <1994Oct10.201711.6829@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 00:56:44 GMT
In article <1994Oct10.201711.6829@Princeton.EDU> serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes:
>In article <376sj9$2j6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
>I'm confused too. I tried running this benchmark application on my Turbo Next,
>and it gave me an ethernet speed of 0.645 KB/sec (I tried host names and host
>IP addresses). The rest of the numbers don't make much sense either. Was this
>thing posted as some sort of early april fool's joke?
If they're using 'spray' to do the ethernet test, then you're also benchmarking
the recipient machine, and your network (if there's lots o' people on the
net, you're toast). Also, if 'spray' isn't given a 1 millisecond delay (or
so), then it can overwhelm your hub, and packets just get tossed (I think).
You can experiment with this yourself.... you'll want to do stuff like
"spray -d 1" or "spray -d 2" I think. Sooner or later, you'll see something
that looks like normal performance. Spray isn't really a good way to test
the ethernet card, and the results from NWBench seem to indicate that it's
having similar results.
- db
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Canon GP55 Copiers + NS
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Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 09:42:55 GMT
Canon have a copier called the GP55. It has a box called the MDC-A1 which
allows you to link your Windows-based PC, running Novell Netware up to it, and
then print to it like a normal laser printer. Only the GP55 does A3,
double-side, 30 pages per minute at A4, very, very lovely! The MDC-A1 only
understands HP-PCL5 printer-description language. I know about Dots and the
like which we could use in the interim.
Does anyone, anywhere know of a good solution or have information? I would have
thought Canon would produce a Postscript driver, but not-quite-yet apparently.
The MDC-A1 box is clever, it takes the copier and allows you to use it as
very-fast laser printer, scanner, fax, copier, etc. The whole setup costs
around $24k, which isn't that bad either.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Kinesis / Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <thompsonCxn24F.GFu@netcom.com>
Cc: shawn@monitor.com
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
References: <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu> <CxJF3K.169@monitor.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 01:14:39 GMT
<shawn@monitor.com> wrote:
>
>i have used the kinesis keyboards (we have two or three in the office) and
>they're neat, but i could never quite get the hang of them.
I had to use my Kinesis full-time for 1-2 weeks before I "got the hang of
it" and quit missing keys. I think if you put in the time you'll realize
the comfort, and the results.
Eric
From: chris@quetzal.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Laser Jet 4M+
Date: 14 Oct 1994 07:11:26 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <37lauu$9qp@taloa.unice.fr>
Keywords: printer - ethernet
I've a Hp LaserJet 4M+ printer with a ethernet board. I think it's
possible to use this printer without serial or parallel connextion to a
print server ; just by connecting the printer to the network. But I can't
find any documention about this in the NeXT Admin Bookshelf. How tho
configure NeXT station to print by this way ? If you have tried this, or
now a solution, please, send me e-mail.
Thanks.
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From: swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 07:18:46 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Oct14031846@poincare.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <1994Oct7.084007.29060@cc.usu.edu> <941008134049.232AACUT.malc@jeeves>
In-reply-to: "mmalcolm Crawford"'s message of Sat, 8 Oct 1994 12:40:49 GMT
In article <941008134049.232AACUT.malc@jeeves> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes:
[...] in a way that was designed to make it as dificult as possible to
type quickly (the design concept behind QWERTY, [...]
Another neat feature of QWERTY was that the sales folks (who were not
necessarily touch-typists) could demonstrate the usefulness of the machine
by quickly tapping out the word "typewriter" using only the top row.
From: swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Intel, video] Better ET4000 drivers?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 07:29:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SWIET.94Oct14032930@poincare.cs.jhu.edu>
I hear the ET4000w32[ip] cards are very fast for DOS because they are good
"frame buffers." They are also quite affordable...at around $150.
Is it technically feasible to have NS drivers which support NeXT 32 bit
color at high resolutions (limited by VRAM, of course) on these cards?
NeXT, Talus, anyone?
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From: coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo)
Subject: Which soundcard is best ???
Message-ID: <Cxnw45.B9z@nntpa.cb.att.com>
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Organization: AT&T Maitland, Florida
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 12:02:28 GMT
Having the following configuration, which soundcard works BEST?
NCR 3333
486DX2 66MHz
32 MB memory
Adaptec AHA-1540C/1542C Host Adapter (ISA)
Intel EtherExpress16TP (ISA)
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (VLB)
Sound Cards under consideration (from the latest hardware
compatibility guide):
Pro Audio Spectrum 16
Pro Studio 16
SoundBlaster 16
Microsoft Sound System
Thanks,
--Felix
coco@erika.cb.att.com
From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where can I find a Nokia 445X?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 12:57:21 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37lv7h$1bd@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Hello,
I am having a tough time finding a Nokia 445X. If you or somebody you know has
purchased this monitor, please email me the name and phone number of where the
monitor was purchased, person to contact, and the price of the monitor plus
shipping.
Thanks,
Michael
Email: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: re: Talus Laptop/Object Station
Message-ID: <1994Oct14.150916.28647@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <941014000011.2039AACUG.malc@jeeves>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 15:09:16 GMT
"mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes
> Would somebody please very slowly and carefully explain what is the
> difference between all these different busses, and why they should affect
> your purchasing habits. I know ISA's the runt of the litter now, but that's
> about it...
OK, here's a little background on PC architecture and a description of each bus
type:
PC Architecture:
- IRQ's
- 15 different IRQ's (1-15)
- Typicall configuration (IRQ - function):
4 - COM1
3 - COM2
7 - Parallel port
2/9 - Keyboard interrupt (?)
1 - Used by the system (clock maybe?)
- DMA channels (0-7)
- Channels 0-4 are 8-bit
- Channels 5-7 are 16-bit
ISA:
- Original PC Bus
- started at 8-bits wide and expanded to 16-bits with the AT class
(286) machines
- runs at 8MHz, but some systems allows the bus clock to be increased
(usually 10 or 12MHz, but sometimes up to 16MHz)
- some cards will not work when the bus is faster than 8MHz
- only allows one bus-master (I think?)
- some machines have designated slots for bus-master cards
- each "function" on a card must use a "port" which is a memory mapped
range of addresses used to communicated with the card
- on some cards this address range can be set (either through jumpers
or through a configuration utility)
- this is a potential cause of conflicts (when two cards have
overlapping port address ranges) and the cards cannot have their port changed
- depending on the function of the card, different IRQ's (interrupts)
and DMA channels are required, again some are jumper settable and some are
software configurable
- This is another source of conflicts
- There is nothing to prevent different cards being assigned the same
IRQ's and DMA channels
EISA:
- 32-bit extension to ISA spec
- still runs at 8MHz ISA bus speed :-(
- provides expanded bus-mastering facilities
- all cards configured by an EISA Configuration Utility (ECU) run at
boot-up
- most card parameters (including IRQ's and DMA channels) configured
through this utility
Vesa Local Bus (aka: VL-Bus, VLB):
- 32-bits wide
- runs at native processor speed (external clock - i.e. 33MHz for a
DX2/66)
- tied directly to the processor and system memory busses
- Allows DMA transfers for all devices
- While doing a DMA transfer, CPU cannot access memory
- Original spec allowed 3 devices on the bus
- Spec allowed for 3 slots at 25MHz, 2 slots at 33MHz and 1 slot at
40MHz
- With the faster speeds, other devices could be on the bus as long as
they were on the motherboard and not in slots
- IRQ and DMA assignments ???
PCI Bus:
- 32-bits wide
- Usually runs at some multiple of the processor speed (25, 33, 50, 66
MHz)
- allows 4 devices on the bus (also allows 4 slots)
- slightly insulated from processor (?)
- Does not prevent processor from accessing memory during DMA's
- Dynamically assigns system resources (IRQ's and DMA channels) at boot
time
- Does not require user configuration of these resources
- allows DMA transfers for all devices
I'm sure I got some of the details wrong and just plain left out other things,
but that should give you a basic idea of the workings of the different busses.
--
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From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Where can I find a Nokia 445X?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 16:35:50 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center
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Michael Ingram (ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com) wrote:
: Hello,
: I am having a tough time finding a Nokia 445X. If you or somebody you know has
: purchased this monitor, please email me the name and phone number of where the
: monitor was purchased, person to contact, and the price of the monitor plus
: shipping.
well, I tried to email you with my long detailed post, but I got it back
undeliverable......
so, call for your monitor (313)953-9680
they cost $2088 without shipping (nokia 445M 21")
I didn't see the 445x.
gary
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From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Where can I find a Nokia 445X?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:18:11 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
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References: <37lv7h$1bd@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
In article <37lv7h$1bd@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am having a tough time finding a Nokia 445X. If you or somebody you
know has
> purchased this monitor, please email me the name and phone number of
where the
> monitor was purchased, person to contact, and the price of the monitor
plus
> shipping.
OpenSource, Inc. offers the complete line of Nokia, Nanao, Sony, and
ViewSonic monitors as well as the NEXTSTEP-compatible video cards to drive
them. Let me know if you'd like more information.
--
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(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
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From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke)
Subject: Setting up a SUPRA FAX 14.4 for Dial in use.
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Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 17:36:27 GMT
I have been using a MultiTech II modem on my /dev/ttydfa port for a long
time without any problems. I recently upgraded the modem to a Supra 14.4,
and now I can dial up and connect, but the system never sends out the
login prompt. I have tried updating the /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab file,
but to no avail. Can anyone lend me a hand and help me out here? Thanks!
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From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Where can I find a Nokia 445X?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:13:04 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
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References: <37lv7h$1bd@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Best Price is probably from CAD Warehouse. 800 487-0485.
Great monitor (my personal impression). Visibly better than the NEC 21"
monitors. But I am far from an expert on monitors.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
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From: msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy)
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Message-ID: <1994Oct14.042704.9286@plexare.com>
Sender: usenet@plexare.com
Organization: Plexare Development Corporation
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 04:27:04 GMT
ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
>> (3) 1600 x 1200 in (444) mode is worth the $200 clams. Now, if my
>> monitor synched at 68 Hz....
>
> I believe that #9 claims that this card can only run at 60Hz, given its
> RAMDAC. A newer version, out in about 1 month, will use a higher speed
> DAC. Am I incorrect here?
The #9 GXE 64 Pro 1600 is due to be released at the end of this month. It
is supposed to be at least driver compatible with their windows drivers,
thus it looks good that the NEXTSTEP drivers should work with no problem.
You are correct that the current card only runs 1600x1200 at 60Hz. The
new card will do 1600x1200 @ 72Hz at least. (Good luck finding a monitor
to do that though... As the best I know of is the 21" Hitachi which does
1600x1280 @ 66Hz)
Mike Barthelemy
msb@plexare.com
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: re: Talus Laptop/Object Station
Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:41:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
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References: <941014000011.2039AACUG.malc@jeeves> <1994Oct14.150916.28647@il.us.swissbank.com>
In article <1994Oct14.150916.28647@il.us.swissbank.com>, ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) writes:
|> "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes
|> > Would somebody please very slowly and carefully explain what is the
|> > difference between all these different busses, and why they should affect
|> > your purchasing habits. I know ISA's the runt of the litter now, but that's
|> > about it...
|>
|> OK, here's a little background on PC architecture and a description of each bus
|> type:
|>
|> PC Architecture:
|> - IRQ's
|> - 15 different IRQ's (1-15)
Actually, it's IRQs 1-16, of which only 15 are usable. When IBM designed the
PC, they used a single, 8 channel PIC (Programmable Interrupt Controller). It
became apparent that they'd need more than 8 IRQ lines in the AT, since the
ISA bus didn't allow interrupt sharing. The way they chose to go about it was
to cascade a second PIC into the first. They gained 8 IRQ lines (9-16)
on the second controller, but had to use up 1 line on the first controller
to implement the cascade. I believe it's IRQ 2 that they lost, although if
I remember correctly they aliased line 9 (the first line on the second
controller) to IRQ2 in order to preserve backwards compatibility. Can
someone who knows correct me if I'm wrong?
|> - Typicall configuration (IRQ - function):
|> 4 - COM1
|> 3 - COM2
|> 7 - Parallel port
|> 2/9 - Keyboard interrupt (?)
|> 1 - Used by the system (clock maybe?)
|> - DMA channels (0-7)
|> - Channels 0-4 are 8-bit
|> - Channels 5-7 are 16-bit
|>
|> ISA:
|> - Original PC Bus
|> - started at 8-bits wide and expanded to 16-bits with the AT class
|> (286) machines
|> - runs at 8MHz, but some systems allows the bus clock to be increased
|> (usually 10 or 12MHz, but sometimes up to 16MHz)
|> - some cards will not work when the bus is faster than 8MHz
|> - only allows one bus-master (I think?)
It doesn't support any arbitration scheme for multiple bus-masters, so it's
effectively limited to one. Unfortunately, most ISA systems will happily allow
you to install multiple bus-masters. You won't know you've got a problem
until they both start trying to drive their own bus cycles at the same
time...
|> - some machines have designated slots for bus-master cards
|> - each "function" on a card must use a "port" which is a memory mapped
|> range of addresses used to communicated with the card
This isn't a must - I/O ports simply provide an easily accessed (albeit slow)
means of communicating with a device. You could just as easily memory-
map everything and communicate that way (many cards do - this is where DMA
comes in handy). In fact, the I/O ports themselves are simply part of a
formalized memory-mapping scheme.
|> - on some cards this address range can be set (either through jumpers
|> or through a configuration utility)
|> - this is a potential cause of conflicts (when two cards have
|> overlapping port address ranges) and the cards cannot have
|> their port changed
|> - depending on the function of the card, different IRQ's (interrupts)
|> and DMA channels are required, again some are jumper settable
|> and some are software configurable
|> - This is another source of conflicts
|> - There is nothing to prevent different cards being assigned the same
|> IRQ's and DMA channels
You might also note that ISA is effectively limited to 4 MB/sec at 8 MHz
(e.g. 4 clock cycles per bus transfer cycle) when doing PI/O transfers, where
the CPU drives the bus cycle. It's limited to 8 MB/sec for DMA or bus-
mastering transfers.
|> EISA:
|> - 32-bit extension to ISA spec
This is an understatement. EISA provides completely reworked bus cycle
specifications, including faster DMA and a 1 cycle per transfer burst
mode for bus-mastering devices. EISA provides 33 MB/sec peak throughput
at the specified 8.33 MHz clock speed. An auto-configuration protocol is
defined and there is support for multiple bus-masters. It uses level-
triggered (rather than edge-triggered) interrupts, which allows interrupt
sharing between peripherals.
|> - still runs at 8MHz ISA bus speed :-(
But allows up to 10 (I think) slots per physical bus, which is something the
faster busses can't claim. Plus, 33 MB/sec is plenty fast for just about
everything except video.
|> - provides expanded bus-mastering facilities
|> - all cards configured by an EISA Configuration Utility (ECU) run at
|> boot-up
|> - most card parameters (including IRQ's and DMA channels) configured
|> through this utility
|>
|>
|> Vesa Local Bus (aka: VL-Bus, VLB):
|> - 32-bits wide
|> - runs at native processor speed (external clock - i.e. 33MHz for a
|> DX2/66)
|> - tied directly to the processor and system memory busses
The VL-bus is basically an extension of the 486 system bus. On most 486
implementations of VL, the CPU physically drives the local bus. Some 486
variants (particularly those built around the DX4- it's a 3.3 V. chip and
VL is a 5 V. spec...) and all Pentium implementations (because Pentium's
system bus is quite different from the 486's, and hence from VL) are
buffered.
|> - Allows DMA transfers for all devices
|> - While doing a DMA transfer, CPU cannot access memory
|> - Original spec allowed 3 devices on the bus
|> - Spec allowed for 3 slots at 25MHz, 2 slots at 33MHz and 1 slot at
|> 40MHz
I believe it's 3 at 33 MHz, 2 at 40, and 1 at 50.
|> - With the faster speeds, other devices could be on the bus as long as
|> they were on the motherboard and not in slots
Right.
|> - IRQ and DMA assignments ???
VL provides neither interrupt nor DMA services. Because it's designed to be
used as an extension to an existing bus (whether ISA, EISA, or Micro Channel)
it relies on that bus to provide "control" funtionality. VL itself is
essentially nothing more than a high-speed data channel. Since most (all?) VL
peripherals assume ISA as the base bus, they share the limitations of their
ISA counterparts when it comes to configuration.
In the realm of general information, VL provides a peak throughput of 106
MB/sec at 33 MHz. This is derived by assuming continuous 2-1-1-1 clock cycle
486 burst accesses (this is VL's fastest transaction cycle).
|> PCI Bus:
|> - 32-bits wide
PCI 2.0 specifies a 64-bit extension to PCI. Nobody's using it yet, though.
|> - Usually runs at some multiple of the processor speed (25, 33, 50, 66
|> MHz)
The PCI 2.0 specification calls for a clock speed between 25 and 33 MHz.
Intel is rumored to be pushing a 66 MHz extension to the spec, but there's
nothing official yet.
|> - allows 4 devices on the bus (also allows 4 slots)
The logical specification for PCI allows effectively unlimited devices. The
physical specification calls for 10 "loads", where an integrated device
counts as 1 load and a card counts as 2. The discrepancy between the logical
and physical limits is important, because it's possible to implement one
logical PCI bus using multiple physical busses and bridges between them.
The whole thing is invisible except to the system designers. I'd expect
to see PCI-based servers before long with large numbers of slots implemented
in this fashion.
|> - slightly insulated from processor (?)
Heavily "insulated", at least compared to VL or any true "local" bus.
The processor is capable of effectively independent operation from the PCI
bus. The best PCI implementations, such as Intel's Neptune, provide a lot
of buffering, and even attempt to group multiple independent bus transactions
into larger bursts to boost efficiency.
|> - Does not prevent processor from accessing memory during DMA's
|> - Dynamically assigns system resources (IRQ's and DMA channels) at
|> boot time
PCI, like EISA, allows interrupt sharing and provides pretty good support
for bus-mastering devices.
|> - Does not require user configuration of these resources
|> - allows DMA transfers for all devices
Again in the realm of general information, 32-bit PCI provides peak throughput
of 132 MB/sec at 33 MHz. This number is higher than for VL because PCI allows
unlimited-length bursts, and therefore can "hide" the 1 cycle setup overhead
for bursts. VL only allows 16 byte bursts (4 32-bit transfers), so it takes
5 cycles to transfer 4 quadwords.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:42:20 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <37mjec$hci@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1994Oct14.042704.9286@plexare.com>
> You are correct that the current card only runs 1600x1200 at 60Hz. The
> new card will do 1600x1200 @ 72Hz at least. (Good luck finding a
monitor
> to do that though... As the best I know of is the 21" Hitachi which does
> 1600x1280 @ 66Hz)
See my post on the Nokia 445X monitor. For about $2300, one gets a monitor
capable of 1600*1200 non-interlaced at 80Hz, according to the review in
Byte magazine, May 1994. Bandwidth is 200MHz.
Although the Nokia 780iw fared slightly better in the same review, it
cannot sync at standard VGA rates---so you cannot see how the NeXT starts
up. Because I only wanted one monitor, and because it is cheaper, I
bought the Nokia.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi (Jukka Tainio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: About HP and NeXTStep
Date: 14 Oct 1994 18:55:54 GMT
Organization: University of Oulu
Message-ID: <37mk7q$iqm@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I saw recently an article, where was a list of HP (PA-Risc) machines, that run NeXTStep.
Could someone repost that article, I seem to have lost it.
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http://pc-next.vitech.fi/~jtainio/index.html
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: martin@cube.han.de (Martin Ortlepp)
Subject: NE2000 compatible driver ?
Message-ID: <1994Oct14.101739.214@cube.han.de>
Sender: martin@cube.han.de
Organization: not organized
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 10:17:39 GMT
Hi,
a few months ago I received such a driver which was in beta state.
Unfortunately I forgot to include this driver in my last backup and
so..... :-(
Is there anyone out there who has this driver and could email it to me???
Thanx,
-Martin
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======================================================
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Goettinger Chaussee 162 A Fax : (49) 511 2345443
30459 Hannover email: martin@cube.han.de
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: [black] NEC3Xi/e with CDPlayer.app?
Message-ID: <Cxo6oG.I9@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 15:50:39 GMT
Is anyone successfully using a NEC 3Xi/e together with the CDPlayer.app
to play audio cds? The drive works flawlessly for data but I get
a lot of SCSI-errors when launching CDPlayer.app.
I did read Nextanswers 1579 and it did not help.
So, the NEC is configured as SCSI-1 kompatible,
owner is root, sticky bit is set (not all important when run by root),
SCSI-id 0 is unused,
internal hd uses SCSI-id 1.
Symptoms :
Inserting an audio-cd yields
DISK UNFORMATTED
Disk is Write Protected
probing for CDROM
probing for DOS
sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x22
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
SCSI IO status error
sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x22
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
SCSI IO status error
probing for mac
sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x43 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x20
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
cdutil: sendCommand error:Sense key: 5, code: 20
probing for cdaudio
followed by a panel requesting to remove the cd.
Launching CDPlayer.app yields
a panel requesting insertion of cd in correct drive upon which the
same sequence of SCSI-errors swamps the console.
While playing audio cds is not really important it might be nice to have.
Any insights?
Juergen
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== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Date: 14 Oct 1994 14:27:08 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37mpis$3vu@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <37hlnu$fgk@news.mic.ucla.edu> <37jhk4$r6p@news.iastate.edu> <37jobr$ica@oclc.org>
Robin Hermance-Moore (rhm@oclc.org) wrote:
: I suspect that should be $200 to upgrade from 2MB to 4MB, not to add 4MB
: for a total of 6.... At least, that's the upgrade pricing I was told about
: for the GXE64Pro card about a week ago.
: --
: Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section
: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
: 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
: rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
I can confirm this. I just paid roughly $200 for a 2 MB upgrade to my #9 card,
bringing it up to a total of 4 MB.
.................................kris
--
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"The word may once have been a healthy neural cell. It is now a parasitic
organism that invades and damages the central nervous system."
From: shawnl@wordperfect.com (Shawn Lynn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hosed...
Date: 14 Oct 1994 20:12:08 GMT
Organization: WordPerfect Corp.
Message-ID: <37momo$87@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
OK, yes, it was a stupid thing to do. I was configuring my new #9GXE64
Pro and I chose the wrong video mode. Now the system boots, but when it
changes into the high resolution mode, my monitor (Sony 20se) crumps.
So, my queestion is: how can I reset the system back to default VGA?
I've tried using the "config=Default" option at boot-up, but it does no
good. The system simply freezes compeletely during the boot process.
At least if I let it boot normally, the system boots fine, I just can't
see the screen.
Any solutions?
Thanks,
Shawn
From: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com (Peter Lipps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: About HP and NeXTStep
Date: 14 Oct 1994 22:39:46 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <37n1bi$13n@rosie.next.com>
References: <37mk7q$iqm@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
In article <37mk7q$iqm@ousrvr.oulu.fi> jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi (Jukka
Tainio) writes:
> I saw recently an article, where was a list of HP (PA-Risc) machines,
that run NeXTStep.
> Could someone repost that article, I seem to have lost it.
>
Have a look at NeXTanswers document # 1684.
Just send mail to
NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM
with Subject:
1684
or
1684 ASCII
-Peter
______________________________
Peter Lipps
NeXT Computer Deutschland GmbH - Oskar-Messter-Str. 24, 85737 Ismaning,
Germany
InterNet: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hosed...
Date: 14 Oct 1994 22:58:49 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <37n2f9$q54@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <37momo$87@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
In article <37momo$87@keflavik.wordperfect.com> shawnl@wordperfect.com (Shawn
Lynn) writes:
> OK, yes, it was a stupid thing to do. I was configuring my new #9GXE64
> Pro and I chose the wrong video mode. Now the system boots, but when it
> changes into the high resolution mode, my monitor (Sony 20se) crumps.
> So, my queestion is: how can I reset the system back to default VGA?
>
> I've tried using the "config=Default" option at boot-up, but it does no
> good. The system simply freezes compeletely during the boot process.
> At least if I let it boot normally, the system boots fine, I just can't
> see the screen.
>
> Any solutions?
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
I did the same thing with the same monitor and the same card :). I tried to
get my #9GXE64Pro to do the 1600x1200x68hz mode and the screen was blank at
boot up. To fix the problem I did the folowing:
1) at the Nextboot prompt type -s. This brings the machine up in single user
mode. No drivers are loaded at this point.
2) machine> cd /usr/Devices/Number9GXE64ProDisplayDriver.config
3) machine> vi Instance0.table
In this document there should be a line something like this
"Display Mode" = "Width: 1600 Height: 1200 Refresh: 68Hz ColorSpace:
RGB:444/16";
Simply edit the line and change the refresh value from 68 to 60. Or completely
change the parameters (as long as they are all valid). Save changes and exit.
Note vi can somethings act strange when an intel machine is in single user mode
(you might not be editing the line you think you are, type <ctrl>l to redraw
the screen in vi to make sure the file looks the way you want before saving).
4) machine> reboot
on reboot the new driver params will be used and the system should come up
fine.
I've used this procedure for getting me out of several sticky situations. If
you want to remove a driver that's not working just edit it out of the
/usr/Device/System.config/Instance0.table.
Good Luck
--
Jessica Hayden
Dept. Chemistry
University of Wisconsin - Madison
hayden@swamp.chem.wisc.edu
From: andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Andrew Abernathy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Setting up a SUPRA FAX 14.4 for Dial in use.
Date: 14 Oct 1994 22:32:05 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <37n0t5$o4h@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <CxoBKr.9Kq@serval.net.wsu.edu>
In article <CxoBKr.9Kq@serval.net.wsu.edu> jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu
(John L. Burke) writes:
> time without any problems. I recently upgraded the modem to a Supra
14.4,
> and now I can dial up and connect, but the system never sends out the
> login prompt. I have tried updating the /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab
file,
> but to no avail. Can anyone lend me a hand and help me out here?
Thanks!
I hope this isn't seen as abuse of Black & White Software, but I recommend
installing the NXFax demo. It will configure your setup for dial-in
automatically - much easier than trying to do it by hand.
Besides that, it lets you send one-page faxes, enough to check out the
package - maybe you'll end up buying it, so you can send multi-page faxes,
as well as receive faxes.
--
andrew.abernathy@mccaw.com (Seattle area)
12206 131st Place NE, #E-75 Kirkland, WA 98034
(NeXTmail/MIME spoken here)
I don't speak for McCaw. I can barely speak for myself.
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hosed...
Date: 14 Oct 1994 20:00:40 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <37n638$cm8@panix2.panix.com>
References: <37momo$87@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <37n2f9$q54@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <37n2f9$q54@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
Jessica Hayden <hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
>I've used this procedure for getting me out of several sticky situations.
>If you want to remove a driver that's not working just edit it out of the
>/usr/Device/System.config/Instance0.table.
If you do this, make _SURE_ that you have a video driver still installed
(like VGA) or else it will still not work.
Alec
--
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chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hosed...
Date: 14 Oct 1994 19:10:39 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <37na6f$olj@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <37momo$87@keflavik.wordperfect.com>
Another way out of this is to
(1) boot the machine and
(2) telnet to it from another machine
(3) run Configure.app -NXHost localhost
This will give you the ability to set resolutions, etc., as if you were
running a Workspace session locally. Usual caveats to NXHost apply.
.......................kris
Shawn Lynn (shawnl@wordperfect.com) wrote:
: OK, yes, it was a stupid thing to do. I was configuring my new #9GXE64
: Pro and I chose the wrong video mode. Now the system boots, but when it
: changes into the high resolution mode, my monitor (Sony 20se) crumps.
: So, my queestion is: how can I reset the system back to default VGA?
: I've tried using the "config=Default" option at boot-up, but it does no
: good. The system simply freezes compeletely during the boot process.
: At least if I let it boot normally, the system boots fine, I just can't
: see the screen.
: Any solutions?
: Thanks,
: Shawn
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The word may once have been a healthy neural cell. It is now a parasitic
organism that invades and damages the central nervous system."
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New NWBench score
Date: 14 Oct 1994 19:23:28 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <37naug$pq0@xmission.xmission.com>
Name of System: Intel Premiere PCI 2.1
CPU Speed: Pentium 90
Disk Subsystem: SCSI-F
LAN Adaptor: 3C509 coax
Graphics Card and Resolution: #9 GXE64 Pro 1280 x 1024 @ 76 Hz (444)
"Kernel Flags" = "";
"Boot Graphics" = "Yes";
"Version" = "x.x0";
"Active Drivers" = "BusMouse ParallelPort EtherLink3 ProAudioSpectrum16 Number9GXE64ProDisplayDriver";
"APM" = "Yes";
"Instance" = "0";
"Install Mode" = "No";
"Kernel" = "mach_kernel";
"Language" = "English";
"Boot Drivers" = "Adaptec2940SCSIDriver Intel824X0 SerialPorts PCIBus Floppy PS2Keyboard EISABus";
NEXTSTEP partition base = 32 NEXTSTEP partition size = 614368
QUANTUM LPS525S 311012/
MIPS: 83.541588
PostScript speed: D-V: 32.528 V-V: 13.152
Ethernet speed: 0.475646
Disk read speed: 2625.767934
Webster benchmark: 26.998766
Compile: 51.967602
--
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The word may once have been a healthy neural cell. It is now a parasitic
organism that invades and damages the central nervous system."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: NEXTSTEP Notebooks, suggestions?
Message-ID: <1994Oct15.010317.7695@mixcom.com>
Sender: news@mixcom.com (Net News Admin)
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milw, WI (414) 351-1139
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 01:03:17 GMT
Netland,
I am in the market for a NEXTSTEP notebook/subnotebook. At the expo I saw some
nice NEC machines that may fit the bill. What is the general concensus on these
little machines and what is a good price on these things?
What do I want? I would like color. It doesn't have to be very fast, but I would
rather it wasn't any slower than a NeXTstation - turbo speed would be cool.
From my experience with other machines I guess no less than 300MB bigger if
possible and probably 16 or 20MB of RAM.
In the end, the capabilities will be dictated by the price.
Send me some email, I'll summarize what I learn.
---
Alberto Ricart
SmartSoft, Inc.
2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
Message-ID: <1994Oct15.102207.665@tanuki.twics.com>
Date: 15 Oct 94 10:22:07 JST
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008170746.17514A-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> <CxFqCH.Dsq@eskimo.com>
Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access]
In article <CxFqCH.Dsq@eskimo.com>, salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
> Matt Webster (gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu) wrote:
> : Is it possible to boot NeXT Step/Intel 3.2 from a magneto optical drive
> : like the Fujitsu M2511A? It would be on the Talus NCR 53c825 driver/card
> : combo, which I have not yet bought. I guess it would be slow, but once
> : booted, it's there, right? Is 128 Meg enough to boot from?
>
> I imagine it is so if it has SCSI ID 0 or 1, Matt. I'm getting ready
> to buy a 256MB MO, and plan to have the ability to boot to it, via the
> floppy, just as I can to the CD-ROM.
>
No problem - I have done this with NS3.0J and a 128Mb MO - used BuildDisk to
make a bootable MO (took a long time!), stripped out bits I didn't want, and
used it to boot a machine with a bad boot block, got the user's home dir-
ectory onto the MO, and then swapped out the hard disk.
I must admit, I was surprised it worked, but it did!
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: System with 2 IDE HD's
Date: 15 Oct 1994 01:12:49 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Message-ID: <37naah$gkj@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
References: <37fgpv$2a0@pubxfer2.news.psi.net>
In article <37fgpv$2a0@pubxfer2.news.psi.net> bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
writes:
> Tim Wasko (twasko@cuug.ab.ca) wrote:
> : Is is possible to have a bootmanager that allows booting off either of
> : two IDE HDs. I would like to have NS/I on one, and DOS/Windows on the
> : other.
>
> I believe the answer is "No, you must boot from drive 0".
> (But I would love to be proven wrong!)
>
I don't know if there are any boot managers available that do this, but
the technique is simple. The program has just got to execute the boot
sector of the appropriate partition . . . on any drive.
I've got a similar program which allows me to boot from drive B:
Just stick the special boot disk in drive A and it's bootstrap program
boots drive B.
Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Looking for quality cases and power supplies for Intel systems
Message-ID: <Cxp8BF.1u2@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 05:23:38 GMT
Can someone recommend a quality case w/power supply for an Intel system
that has reasonably good aesthetics? Please provide vendor info since
I'd like to request a catalog/picture to see what the case looks like.
I'm sure I'm not the only NeXT user that has asked for this.
Thanks,
Robert
Robert La Ferla
HTI
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dimitri@duti609a.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: Re: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hosed...
Message-ID: <CxpM4u.E40@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
References: <37momo$87@keflavik.wordperfect.com> <37n2f9$q54@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 10:22:06 GMT
In article <37n2f9$q54@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
Jessica Hayden <hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote:
[ an explanation how to boot signle-user and edit a driver
configuration file omitted ]
>4) machine> reboot
>on reboot the new driver params will be used and the system should come up
>fine.
You don't have to reboot. Just type Ctrl-D and the system will
continue startup with the new configuration.
Dimitri
--
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Dimitri Tischenko | D.B.Tischenko@TWI.TUDelft.NL | NeXTmail preferred! |
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| Delft University of Technology | NeGeN |
| Fac Applied Math & Computer Science| NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland |
| Dep of Statistics, Probabilitistics| NiNe |
| and Operations Research | NEXTSTEP In the Netherlands |
+------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
Message-ID: <bchin.782238511@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <37hlnu$fgk@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1994Oct14.042704.9286@plexare.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 16:28:31 GMT
msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy) writes:
>You are correct that the current card only runs 1600x1200 at 60Hz. The
>new card will do 1600x1200 @ 72Hz at least. (Good luck finding a monitor
>to do that though... As the best I know of is the 21" Hitachi which does
>1600x1280 @ 66Hz)
The Hitachi SuperScan Elite 21" has a 160Mhz bandwidth and can do
1600x1280 @ 72Hz. The Nokia 445X and M have 200Mhz bandwidth and can
do better than that.
..Bill (looking into buying monitors)
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Where can I find a Nokia 445X?
Message-ID: <bchin.782239378@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <37lv7h$1bd@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 16:42:58 GMT
ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram) writes:
>Hello,
>I am having a tough time finding a Nokia 445X. If you or somebody you know has
>purchased this monitor, please email me the name and phone number of where the
>monitor was purchased, person to contact, and the price of the monitor plus
>shipping.
I talked to the Publisher's Toolbox at 1-800-233-3898 and got quoted
$2295 for a 445X and $1995 (I think) for a 445M. I've never ordered from
them, I was just looking around for Hitachi and Nokia monitors.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: [black] NEC3Xi/e with CDPlayer.app?
Message-ID: <bchin.782239927@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <Cxo6oG.I9@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 16:52:07 GMT
js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) writes:
>Is anyone successfully using a NEC 3Xi/e together with the CDPlayer.app
>to play audio cds?
Yes.
>So, the NEC is configured as SCSI-1 kompatible,
Switch it to SCSI-2 compatible.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cube and TI Laser Pro - How?
Date: 15 Oct 1994 18:54:18 GMT
Organization: GlobalCom
Message-ID: <37p8gq$ial@goodnews.globalcom.net>
I have a TI microLaser Pro 600, and I have a Cube running 1.0a
NextStep (until someone can get me something newer).
I bought a Mac-style DIN connector for serial comm. between
them both, and set it up as a Apple LaserWriter Plus (The TI is
PS). Nothing happens when I try to print.
I know this is a clueless newbie question - but then again, the combo
works fine with NSFIP thru parallel to this same printer.
Suggestions? Am I using the wrong cable? Do I have to buy
some special one for the Next?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Patrick
PS If you have NS 2.1 or later on MO cart, let me know how much
you want for it....I could use it, as long as it still has Mathematica
and Common Lisp on it, plus Interface Builder....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Help: a couple of questions about the M2624F Fujitsu internal internal HD
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Hi. I may have the opportunity to buy a Fujitsu M2624F internal drive. I will
be quite pleased if you can help me with the following questions:
a) Price (approximately)
b) Access time
c) i/o throughout
d)How can I change the scsi id (the one I am interested is presently set to 2).
e)Does it perform well with a slab? (Or a Mac?)
f)How noise is it?
Thanks for your time.
Bye,
Ze Tomas
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From: willisma@tch31.cs.jmu.edu (matt a willis )
Subject: NS 3.2 install - HELP!
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 19:44:28 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.bugs ]
[ Author was matt a willis ]
[ Posted on Sat, 15 Oct 1994 19:40:54 GMT ]
I'm having trouble installing NeXTstep 3.2 on a machine with the
following configuration:
Zeos 486 w/ 32Mb
IDE hard drive
Adaptec 6360 SCSI adapter
NEC 2x CD ROM
I have obtained the device driver for the SCSI adapter from NeXT.
The problem I'm having is that during installation, my keyboard
locks up. It willeither lock up or I get the repeating message:
PS/2Keyboard/HandleACK: Unexpected ACK from Keyboard
I've tried the fix suggested in NeXT help file #1480 to type
the following command at the boot: prompt:
"Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B DPT2012 IDE Floppy"
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Looking for quality cases and power supplies for Intel systems
Message-ID: <CxqDJv.LA@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Cxp8BF.1u2@hot.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 20:17:56 GMT
Robert La Ferla (Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com) wrote:
: Can someone recommend a quality case w/power supply for an Intel system
: that has reasonably good aesthetics? Please provide vendor info since
: I'd like to request a catalog/picture to see what the case looks like.
If you *really* want quality in design and materials, consider PC
Power & Cooling, Inc.'s product line. You can reach them at
(800)722-6555, or (619)931-5700.
I have their full size tower, and don't regret the ample room, easy
access, and oversized pair of fans that can outdo a desk fan.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
Message-ID: <CxqEFo.1ty@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941008170746.17514A-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> <CxFqCH.Dsq@eskimo.com> <1994Oct15.102207.665@tanuki.twics.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 20:37:03 GMT
hugh@tanuki.twics.com wrote:
: > Matt Webster (gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu) wrote:
: > : Is it possible to boot NeXT Step/Intel 3.2 from a magneto optical drive
: > : like the Fujitsu M2511A? It would be on the Talus NCR 53c825 driver/card
: > : combo, which I have not yet bought. I guess it would be slow, but once
: > : booted, it's there, right? Is 128 Meg enough to boot from?
: No problem - I have done this with NS3.0J and a 128Mb MO - used BuildDisk to
: make a bootable MO (took a long time!), stripped out bits I didn't want, and
: used it to boot a machine with a bad boot block, got the user's home dir-
: ectory onto the MO, and then swapped out the hard disk.
Also, I believe it is well worth considering an external MO drive,
allowing you to boot NS from SCSI systems that do not have NS.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Slow disk writes? Dissapointed? I w
Date: 15 Oct 1994 16:51:27 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
Message-ID: <37pfcf$8vu@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <1994Oct4.173353.28989@sifon.cc.m>
samurai@hasc.ca writes:
>Most SCSI-II disks seem to be 5400 RPM disks. "disk" doesn't query for
>rotational speed, although this is simple to do. It's a bug, I figure.
>Anyway, the second call directly to newfs re-initializes the filesystem
>with a layout that's optimal for a 5400 RPM disk. After doing this, and
>re-installing NEXTSTEP I now have a write performance benchmark of 1311kb/sec,
>which is nearly 3 times faster.
This is great info, but what if I want to do this to my only NeXTSTEP
partition? That is, if I do a build disk, or install NS from CDROM it re-init-
ializes using the brain dead initialization over the nice 5400rpm init? No?
So what do I do if I want my boot NS drive to be properly formated? Will a
disktab insure it gets initialized properly via BuildDisk?
Thanks for any info!
Later, John
--
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173 Westgate Drive R#9 kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Edison, NJ 08820-1163 D#0 Opinions expressed represent me only.
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Subject: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Message-ID: <1994Oct15.150557.30032@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (mike emmel)
Date: 15 Oct 94 15:05:56 MDT
Distribution: world
Will NeXTSTep run on a dual pentium machine??
I know ther was a discussion of wether NeXTStep had smp abilities but I
cant remeber the outcome.
If the answer is no will 3.3 support more than one proccesor?
mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu
From: steffi@houndog.isp.pitt.edu (Stefanie Brueninghaus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Quantum Empire 2100S for Black?
Date: 15 Oct 1994 23:17:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <37pntl$5nn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
Can I use this as external disk at my Mono Slab, the add says it is a
"SCSI-III" (???). Otherwise, that drive seems to be a pretty good
deal.
Thanks, Steffi.
From: msb@plexare.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 14 Oct 94 07:27 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much o
Message-ID: <1994Oct14.042704.9286@plexare.co>
References: <griffon.317.000A0607@unixg.ubc.c>
Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org>
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
>> (3) 1600 x 1200 in (444) mode is worth the $200 clams. Now, if my
>> monitor synched at 68 Hz....
>
> I believe that #9 claims that this card can only run at 60Hz, given its
> RAMDAC. A newer version, out in about 1 month, will use a higher speed
> DAC. Am I incorrect here?
The #9 GXE 64 Pro 1600 is due to be released at the end of this month. It
is supposed to be at least driver compatible with their windows drivers,
thus it looks good that the NEXTSTEP drivers should work with no problem.
You are correct that the current card only runs 1600x1200 at 60Hz. The
new card will do 1600x1200 @ 72Hz at least. (Good luck finding a monitor
to do that though... As the best I know of is the 21" Hitachi which does
1600x1280 @ 66Hz)
Mike Barthelemy
msb@plexare.com
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 15 Oct 94 04:22 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
Message-ID: <1994Oct15.102207.665@tanuki.twic>
References: <-421846645@Pine.SUN.3.90.941008170746.17514>
Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org>
Subject: Re: NeXT Step with Magneto Optical?
In article <CxFqCH.Dsq@eskimo.com>, salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
> Matt Webster (gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu) wrote:
> : Is it possible to boot NeXT Step/Intel 3.2 from a magneto optical drive
> : like the Fujitsu M2511A? It would be on the Talus NCR 53c825 driver/card
> : combo, which I have not yet bought. I guess it would be slow, but once
> : booted, it's there, right? Is 128 Meg enough to boot from?
>
> I imagine it is so if it has SCSI ID 0 or 1, Matt. I'm getting ready
> to buy a 256MB MO, and plan to have the ability to boot to it, via the
> floppy, just as I can to the CD-ROM.
>
No problem - I have done this with NS3.0J and a 128Mb MO - used BuildDisk to
make a bootable MO (took a long time!), stripped out bits I didn't want, and
used it to boot a machine with a bad boot block, got the user's home dir-
ectory onto the MO, and then swapped out the hard disk.
I must admit, I was surprised it worked, but it did!
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 14 Oct 94 18:09 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: re: Talus Laptop/Object Station
Message-ID: <1994Oct14.150916.28647@il.us.swi>
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Subject: Re: re: Talus Laptop/Object Station
"mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes
> Would somebody please very slowly and carefully explain what is the
> difference between all these different busses, and why they should affect
> your purchasing habits. I know ISA's the runt of the litter now, but that's
> about it...
OK, here's a little background on PC architecture and a description of each bus
type:
PC Architecture:
- IRQ's
- 15 different IRQ's (1-15)
- Typicall configuration (IRQ - function):
4 - COM1
3 - COM2
7 - Parallel port
2/9 - Keyboard interrupt (?)
1 - Used by the system (clock maybe?)
- DMA channels (0-7)
- Channels 0-4 are 8-bit
- Channels 5-7 are 16-bit
ISA:
- Original PC Bus
- started at 8-bits wide and expanded to 16-bits with the AT class
(286) machines
- runs at 8MHz, but some systems allows the bus clock to be increased
(usually 10 or 12MHz, but sometimes up to 16MHz)
- some cards will not work when the bus is faster than 8MHz
- only allows one bus-master (I think?)
- some machines have designated slots for bus-master cards
- each "function" on a card must use a "port" which is a memory mapped
range of addresses used to communicated with the card
- on some cards this address range can be set (either through jumpers
or through a configuration utility)
- this is a potential cause of conflicts (when two cards have
overlapping port address ranges) and the cards cannot have their port changed
- depending on the function of the card, different IRQ's (interrupts)
and DMA channels are required, again some are jumper settable and some are
software configurable
- This is another source of conflicts
- There is nothing to prevent different cards being assigned the same
IRQ's and DMA channels
EISA:
- 32-bit extension to ISA spec
- still runs at 8MHz ISA bus speed :-(
- provides expanded bus-mastering facilities
- all cards configured by an EISA Configuration Utility (ECU) run at
boot-up
- most card parameters (including IRQ's and DMA channels) configured
through this utility
Vesa Local Bus (aka: VL-Bus, VLB):
- 32-bits wide
- runs at native processor speed (external clock - i.e. 33MHz for a
DX2/66)
- tied directly to the processor and system memory busses
- Allows DMA transfers for all devices
- While doing a DMA transfer, CPU cannot access memory
- Original spec allowed 3 devices on the bus
- Spec allowed for 3 slots at 25MHz, 2 slots at 33MHz and 1 slot at
40MHz
- With the faster speeds, other devices could be on the bus as long as
they were on the motherboard and not in slots
- IRQ and DMA assignments ???
PCI Bus:
- 32-bits wide
- Usually runs at some multiple of the processor speed (25, 33, 50, 66
MHz)
- allows 4 devices on the bus (also allows 4 slots)
- slightly insulated from processor (?)
- Does not prevent processor from accessing memory during DMA's
- Dynamically assigns system resources (IRQ's and DMA channels) at boot
time
- Does not require user configuration of these resources
- allows DMA transfers for all devices
I'm sure I got some of the details wrong and just plain left out other things,
but that should give you a basic idea of the workings of the different busses.
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| Synectic Design | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 14 Oct 94 15:57 GMT+0300
Subject: Where can I find a Nokia 445X?
Message-ID: <37lv7h$1bd@bmw.hwcae.az.honeywel>
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Hello,
I am having a tough time finding a Nokia 445X. If you or somebody you know has
purchased this monitor, please email me the name and phone number of where the
monitor was purchased, person to contact, and the price of the monitor plus
shipping.
Thanks,
Michael
Email: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com
From: gcl@beavis.im.med.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 14 Oct 94 19:35 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Where can I find a Nokia 445X?
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Michael Ingram (ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com) wrote:
: Hello,
: I am having a tough time finding a Nokia 445X. If you or somebody you know has
: purchased this monitor, please email me the name and phone number of where the
: monitor was purchased, person to contact, and the price of the monitor plus
: shipping.
well, I tried to email you with my long detailed post, but I got it back
undeliverable......
so, call for your monitor (313)953-9680
they cost $2088 without shipping (nokia 445M 21")
I didn't see the 445x.
gary
--
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please
Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list
__________________________________________________________________
From: shawnl@wordperfect.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 14 Oct 94 23:12 GMT+0300
Subject: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hos
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Subject: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hosed...
OK, yes, it was a stupid thing to do. I was configuring my new #9GXE64
Pro and I chose the wrong video mode. Now the system boots, but when it
changes into the high resolution mode, my monitor (Sony 20se) crumps.
So, my queestion is: how can I reset the system back to default VGA?
I've tried using the "config=Default" option at boot-up, but it does no
good. The system simply freezes compeletely during the boot process.
At least if I let it boot normally, the system boots fine, I just can't
see the screen.
Any solutions?
Thanks,
Shawn
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From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: If you're an Intel guru, you need to read this.
Message-ID: <rwyattCxqwvt.4GJ@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 03:11:53 GMT
Attention Intel gurus! :-) NEXT IN LINE is looking for several qualified
writers to discuss issues of importance to users and sysadmins configuring
NEXTSTEP on Intel boxes. If you're interested, please contact me directly
at rob@bedazzled.com (NeXTmail, MIME).
Thank you!
-Rob Wyatt
Editor/Publisher
NEXT IN LINE
rob@bedazzled.com
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Buslogic PCI SCSI Adapter
Message-ID: <CxpLr0.BI@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 10:13:47 GMT
Hi,
is there a driver for the Buslogic PCI SCSI Adapter or will there be
one in 3.3? A friend of mine has the chance to get one really cheap.
Bye, Michael
--
*** Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen
*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome)
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which 64-bit graphics card is best for NSFIP?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 12:10:34 +0100
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <37r1na$482@turner.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi I am looking to replace my ATI 32 card with a 64-bit card which can do
1024x768 in 32-bit colour under NSFIP 3.2.
Can anyone advise me on which card to choose? I am attracted to the Diamond
, Matrox and ATI cards, but I don't know which one of these is supported
under NS.
If anyone also wants to sell me one of these cards 2nd hand, feel free to
mail me. I can pay money only, or swap my mach32 card + money for your
64-bit NSFIP supported card.
Thanks,
Eren Kotan eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which 64-bit graphics card is best for NSFIP?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 16:02:34 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37riqq$h83@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
References: <37r1na$482@turner.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
In article <37r1na$482@turner.ecs.soton.ac.uk> eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren
Kotan) writes:
Hi I am looking to replace my ATI 32 card with a 64-bit card which can do
1024x768 in 32-bit colour under NSFIP 3.2.
> Can anyone advise me on which card to choose? I
> am attracted to the Diamond , Matrox and ATI
> cards, but I don't know which one of these is
> supported under NS.
>
We wrote the driver for the ATI mach64 and that's what we use in our
office. We're very pleased with the performance. The mach64 with 4MB
will give you 1152x896 in 32-bit color.
> If anyone also wants to sell me one of these
> cards 2nd hand, feel free to mail me. I can pay
> money only, or swap my mach32 card + money for
> your 64-bit NSFIP supported card.
We can sell you the driver, or the card and driver as a bundle. We don't,
however, have any used ones.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
steve@talus.com
> Thanks,
>
> Eren Kotan eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which 64-bit graphics card is best for NSFIP?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 13:00:52 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37rm84$1ki@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <37r1na$482@turner.ecs.soton.ac.uk> <37riqq$h83@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
Steve Sarich III (talus.com!steve) wrote:
: In article <37r1na$482@turner.ecs.soton.ac.uk> eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren
: Kotan) writes:
: > Can anyone advise me on which card to choose? I
: > am attracted to the Diamond , Matrox and ATI
: > cards, but I don't know which one of these is
: > supported under NS.
: >
: We wrote the driver for the ATI mach64 and that's what we use in our
: office. We're very pleased with the performance. The mach64 with 4MB
: will give you 1152x896 in 32-bit color.
I can attest to the speed of the mach64 and Talus driver. I use it daily
at 1152x896, in both 16-bit and 32-bit modes. The cards are still
relatively new, and I doubt you could find any used ones out there, but
Talus now offers an extremely attractive bundle (I would have saved money
had I bought my card from them) - not to mention great support. Maxtrox cards
are not supported under NS in any manner.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 13:07:09 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37rmjt$1nh@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Oct15.150557.30032@cc.usu.edu>
mike emmel (mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu) wrote:
: Will NeXTSTep run on a dual pentium machine??
: I know ther was a discussion of wether NeXTStep had smp abilities but I
: cant remeber the outcome.
: If the answer is no will 3.3 support more than one proccesor?
NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not have SMP support, nor will 3.3 (as far as I can tell).
However, NeXTSTEP can certainly be made SMP-capable in the future. In
fact, it's very likely due to the NS/SPARC port. I'd venture a guess
that NS 4.0 will be fully SMP. As for now, dual Pentiums won't be of any
benefit.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Intel, video] Better ET4000 drivers?
Date: 16 Oct 1994 13:19:05 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37rna9$216@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <SWIET.94Oct14032930@poincare.cs.jhu.edu>
Alexander Swietlicki (swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu) wrote:
: I hear the ET4000w32[ip] cards are very fast for DOS because they are good
: "frame buffers." They are also quite affordable...at around $150.
: Is it technically feasible to have NS drivers which support NeXT 32 bit
: color at high resolutions (limited by VRAM, of course) on these cards?
Three problems: First, I believe those cards were equipped with DRAM,
which is far slower than VRAM (under character-based systems such as DOS,
this makes little difference). Second, the cards lack sufficient RAM to support
such bit-depths and resolutions. Third, the 32-bit data path on the cards
would result in slow(er) video, as is the case with all older 32-bit
cards.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Date: 17 Oct 1994 00:01:14 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37sesa$na4@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <37rmjt$1nh@anshar.shadow.net>
Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
: NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not have SMP support, nor will 3.3 (as far as I can tell).
: However, NeXTSTEP can certainly be made SMP-capable in the future. In
: fact, it's very likely due to the NS/SPARC port. I'd venture a guess
: that NS 4.0 will be fully SMP. As for now, dual Pentiums won't be of any
: benefit.
What about not-S MP? For 2 pentiums not doing database serving I really
don't see much disadvantage.
: - Jay
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: hugh@tanuki.twics.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: MIDI Interface cable for black h/w
Message-ID: <1994Oct17.082133.680@tanuki.twics.com>
Date: 17 Oct 94 08:21:33 JST
Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access]
Does anyone know of a readymade cable (preferred) or the pinouts (I can
solder Mini-8 DINs, but prefer not to) for a cable between an 040 Turbo
slab and an Opcode Studio 3 MIDI interface?
Thanks in advance.
Hugh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman)
Subject: converting to NS
Message-ID: <slfinkCxsoyt.MI5@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 02:16:04 GMT
Can anyone help me understand the conversion process for converting an intel
machine to NS-3.2, 3.3?
Configuration
Micron 486/50 dx2
VLbus, 12 m, connor 240ide, wd 760ide
Diamond Viper vlb, 1 meg
Chinon dual speed cd, and scsi card
sb16
intel modem i 14,400
I understand I will have to change scsi to adaptec,
What else has to change?
Can this be setup have dual boot dos/ns?
TIA,
--
Steven Finkelman
DATA/Massage
slfink@netcom.com
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: converting to NS
Date: 17 Oct 1994 03:29:33 GMT
Organization: GlobalCom
Message-ID: <37sr2t$b23@goodnews.globalcom.net>
References: <slfinkCxsoyt.MI5@netcom.com>
In article <slfinkCxsoyt.MI5@netcom.com>, slfink@netcom.com (Steven Finkelman) says:
>
>Can anyone help me understand the conversion process for converting an intel
>machine to NS-3.2, 3.3?
>Configuration
>Micron 486/50 dx2
Should be fine here
>VLbus, 12 m, connor 240ide, wd 760ide
maybe more memory
don't know if NS can see both ide drives; make the 760 master drive in case it doesn't
>Diamond Viper vlb, 1 meg
should be fine, higher res or color depth-get anouther meg
>Chinon dual speed cd, and scsi card
if scsi non-adaptec, dpt then you will need another
>sb16
should be fine
>intel modem i 14,400
should be fine, I use it with Fax software under Next, it works great
>I understand I will have to change scsi to adaptec,
or you could go with DPT or Buslogic
>What else has to change?
I don't think much else
>Can this be setup have dual boot dos/ns?
YES
Take care, Patrick
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: converting to NS
Date: 17 Oct 1994 03:54:09 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <37ssh1$m9k@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
References: <slfinkCxsoyt.MI5@netcom.com>
Steven Finkelman (slfink@netcom.com) wrote:
: Can anyone help me understand the conversion process for converting an intel
: machine to NS-3.2, 3.3?
: Configuration
: Micron 486/50 dx2
: VLbus, 12 m, connor 240ide, wd 760ide
NS3.2 does not support EIDE drives, it'll only see the first 528
megs. of the drive (first 1024 cylinders) I don't know if NS3.3 will
have EIDE support, maybe.... but in the mean time, you'll have to
figure out some creative way to get these two IDE drives to work the
DOS/NS dual boot magic.
: Diamond Viper vlb, 1 meg
can this be upgraded? if so , go up to 2 megs, if not, get rid of it
and get a viper with 2 megs or the ATI GUP with 2 megs, if not, you'll
be stuck at 800 X 600 (16 bit color), I'm assuming that you'd want
color, grayscale becomes annoying after a while.
: Chinon dual speed cd, and scsi card
as long as the CD-ROm is SCSI, it'll be fine (99.9 % of the time, I'm
told some SCSI cd-ROms still don't work for some strange mysteious
reason, but most SCSI CD-ROMS do work) note here, SB SCSI is not SCSI,
and if your CD-ROm feeds off of the sound card, check to make sure it
is SCSI so it maybe moved to an Adaptec card.
: sb16
is drivers for this thing free yet?
: intel modem i 14,400
it should work just fine, as /dev/cufb
: I understand I will have to change scsi to adaptec,
: What else has to change?
more memory, bigger monitor, better hardware.very demanding OS.
: Can this be setup have dual boot dos/ns?
yes.
: TIA,
: --
: Steven Finkelman
: DATA/Massage
: slfink@netcom.com
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker.
I Fix everything. Monitors/Drives/etc. will buy junk.
NSFIP config - 17inch,32meg,1gig.ATI GUP VLB
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Ozone Filter in NeXT Printer
Message-ID: <1994Oct17.021756.2224@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 02:17:56 GMT
Can you wash an ozone fileter, or does it have to be replaced?
Also what, exactly, is the purpose of the filter.
Thanks
Wes
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: [black] NEC3Xi/e with CDPlayer.app?
Message-ID: <Cxt8Lz.BM@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <bchin.782239927@news.andi.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 09:20:23 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <bchin.782239927@news.andi.org> you wrote:
> js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) writes:
>
> >Is anyone successfully using a NEC 3Xi/e together with the CDPlayer.app
> >to play audio cds?
>
> Yes.
>
> >So, the NEC is configured as SCSI-1 kompatible,
>
> Switch it to SCSI-2 compatible.
Thanks Bill.
Now the audio cd gets recognized as such and CDPlayer.app launches.
But I never hear a thing!
In the console I find
probing for cdaudio
Oct 17 10:09:25 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x15 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
Moving the thumbwheel at the bottom of CDPlayer.app just gives more of these messages.
Of course, I have Public Window & Public Sound Server set.
This holds for my private account as well as for root.
Any ideas?
J rgen
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From: djs@ids.net (David Jean Schweitzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Falcon Systems as VAR for Canon Object.station
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 13:23:15 GMT
Organization: Alliance for Media Arts SFAC
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <djs.1132787835A@155.212.1.8>
References: <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
I would not like to see Falcon Systems get the VAR for the Canon Object
Station. I am very dis-satisfied customer. The NeXT community is in a
delicate enough situation. Generally speaking, the people at Falcon haven't
a clue on what they are selling. My experience with Falcon was so negative
that I wouldn't even use them to purchase a fly swatter.
One person's opinion, not an attempt to hurt anyone's feelings. Sorry!
In Article <37kcbk$193@condor.cs.jhu.edu>, audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu
(Christopher Audley) wrote:
>Falcon Systems has applied to be a VAR for the Canon Object.station.
>However, Canon is requiring Falcon to commit to a minimum number of
>of systems. Without significant interest from the NeXT community,
>Falcon can't make that commitment.
>
>If your interested in the Canon Object.station, and you would like to
>deal with a reliable supplier, please call Michael Hyatt at Falcon
>Systems, (800)326-1002. Yes, Canon may be a reliable supplier, if
>your willing to pay full list and deal with finding someone in their
>customer service department familiar with this relatively minor
>product.
>
>Falcon is a nation wide supplier of computers and peripherals, including
>HP systems, disk drives, memory and, if the VAR application is accepted,
>Intel systems which work with NeXTstep. We have used them as our
>peripheral supplier for NeXTstations for about a year now and have never
>had a problem.
>
>I'm not affiliated with, nor do I speak for, Falcon systems. I am,
>however, a very satisfied customer of theirs who would like to see them
>sell the Canon Object.station.
>
>Christopher D. Audley
>Watch Hill Investment Partners
>
================================================================================
David Jean Schweitzer <djs@ids.net> Miami Beach, FL, USA
Artist in residence, Filmmaker (305) 532-8227 (voice)
Alliance for Media Arts SFAC (305) 532-6007 (fax)
<alliance_org@ids.net> (305) 538-8242 (office)
Chairperson Alliance Film/Video Coop
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: fs@dev1 (Frederic STARK)
Subject: [HELP] Data General DASHER 466e crash under NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CxtMyM.3qv@comdev.fdn.fr>
Sender: usenet@comdev.fdn.fr
Organization: Communication Developpement.
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:30:22 GMT
Keywords: DG, DASHER, CRASH
Reply-To: dgadmin@comdev.fdn.fr
Symptoms
Approx Once a day, one of the following happens
- system freeze
- system panic
- Window Server death
- Application crash [ ie compiler / mail ... ]
Host information
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: I386 (Intel 486)
Processor active: 0
Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 66 tasks, 126 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.66, Mach factor: 0.66
Hardware configuration
Data General Dasher 466e
SCSI DPT 2122
Video ATI Ultra Pro Mach32
Network IntelEtherExpress (RJ45)
Using standards drivers from NS 3.2
We changed the DPT for an Adaptec 1542 in one machine
The crashes are less frequent, but still there.
Example of /usr/adm/messages
(but we have dozens of other different logs)
Aug 31 15:20:41 dev2 mach: EATA timeout
Aug 31 15:20:41 dev2 mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
Aug 31 15:20:50 dev2 mach: sd0: REQUEST SENSE ERROR; FATAL.
Aug 31 15:20:50 dev2 mach: IO error on pageout (bread)
Aug 31 15:20:50 dev2 mach: vnode_pageout: failed!
The PCs are configured with dual boot.
They are seldom used under DOS, but we have seen them crashing
(while HIMEM checks mem)
We have 4 memory slots, filled with 4 16Mb double-sided ram chips.
We heard it could be a unsafe configuration
Anybody have any clue / solution / driver updates / or anythings ?
We would really appreciate any help, or hearing about people with
similar DG configurations.
Please, e-mail at dgadmin@comdev.fdn.fr, we'll post a summary.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler)
Subject: Fiery 200i printer driver for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com>
Summary: I want to find a printer driver to work with a Fiery 200i color printer
Keywords: printer postscript driver fiery nextstep next
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:35:03 GMT
I am trying to print some color .draw documents and I am having troubles.
I need a NeXT printer driver for a Fiery 200i color postscript printer. This
is the printer that the local printshop has.
Any suggestions or sources?
--
<Rodger>
======================================================
Rodger B. Zeisler rbz@netcom.com
1404 Minter Road Home (214) 517-4884
Plano, Tx 75023-1908 Work (214) 437-7636
======================================================
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: connect black next printer to intel?
Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:39:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <37u5qv$dv8@news.service.uci.edu>
Does anybody make a card and associated software that
can connect a black next printer to an intel machine running nextstep 3.2?
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks.
--
Feng Liu
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717
phone: 714-725-3105 Fax: 714-856-8585
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ozone Filter in NeXT Printer
Date: 17 Oct 1994 16:07:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37u7fj$n8k@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1994Oct17.021756.2224@weston.com>
In article <1994Oct17.021756.2224@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes
Spears) writes:
> Can you wash an ozone fileter, or does it have to be replaced?
>
> Also what, exactly, is the purpose of the filter.
>
It filters ozone :-) Ozone is a very powerful oxidant so you probably
don't want a lot of it building up. It's probably not good for lung
tissue, nylon stockings, rubber, etc. I imagine the ozone filter reduces
ozone creating oxygen.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hårseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best ???
Date: 17 Oct 1994 18:01:50 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <37ualu$fnl@langlia.ifi.uio.no>
References: <Cxnw45.B9z@nntpa.cb.att.com>
In article <Cxnw45.B9z@nntpa.cb.att.com>, coco@erika.cb.att.com (Felix A. Lugo) writes:
> Having the following configuration, which soundcard works BEST?
>
> NCR 3333
> 486DX2 66MHz
> 32 MB memory
> Adaptec AHA-1540C/1542C Host Adapter (ISA)
> Intel EtherExpress16TP (ISA)
> ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (VLB)
>
> Sound Cards under consideration (from the latest hardware
> compatibility guide):
>
> Pro Audio Spectrum 16
> Pro Studio 16
> SoundBlaster 16
> Microsoft Sound System
>
> Thanks,
> --Felix
> coco@erika.cb.att.com
>
Very good question, does any card work properly ?
I have a Pro Audio Studio 16 card which I have been used with both an
AHA1542CF and a BT445C. It doesn't work with any of them: it causes NeXTstep
to hang, sample-playback either loops (DMA 5-7) or is very noisy (and
interferes with my CD; DMA 1-3) and recording is bad. The SB-part works for
playback though (haven't tried recording) in DOS with DMA 1, IRQ 7, but thats
DOS.
I haven't tried the SB-16, but some people on the net say it only works for
playback with the current driver for next:
> From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
> Subject: Re: SoundBlaster beta driver
> Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:06:51 -0400
>
> Darcy Brockbank (samurai@hasc.ca) wrote:
>
> : I've never been able to get the freeware SB driver to work on my system,
> : but the NeXT version worked flawlessly for me. I'm very happy with it.
> : (Good job NeXT).
>
> Except for one problem: It basically only works for playback. If you want
> to record, you've got to reboot, record, then reboot again, and play
> back. No way I'm going through that rigmarole just to record a 5-second
> clip.
>
> - Jay
I dont't now much about the Microsoft Sound System, but I heard somewhere that
it isn't very advanced.
So, are there any sound-card success-stories out there ????
Arne (arneha@ifi.uio.no)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ozone Filter in NeXT Printer
Date: 17 Oct 1994 17:21:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37ubq1$6ng@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1994Oct17.021756.2224@weston.com>
In article <1994Oct17.021756.2224@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes:
>Can you wash an ozone fileter, or does it have to be replaced?
Are you referring to the 4x4x0.8" black filter next to the fan?
*Don't* wash it. It's mostly paper, and will disintegrate in water.
Perhaps, blast air through, or replace (I don't know any source).
--
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USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: eCesys Pentium Systems
Date: 17 Oct 1994 17:41:58 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <37ud16$q51@godot.cc.duq.edu>
I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experiences with the eCesys
intel systems configured to run NeXTstep.
We're looking into upgrading some existing Black hardware with Intel boxes
and have been looking into Canon Object.Stations and now the eCesys products.
The eCesys prices certainly look good compared to the Canon pricing but then
again, Canon is enticing people with the promise of Custom Video Hardware
optimized for NeXTstep.
Any reactions?
Thanks.
--Jason Brown
Senior Software Engineer
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hardware Vendor Recommendation
Message-ID: <1994Oct17.133449.35230@hulaw1.harvard.edu>
From: cello@mario.harvard.edu (Sean Anthony Varah)
Date: 17 Oct 94 13:34:48 EDT
References: <1994Oct3.183508.26322@iitmax.iit>
I've seen a lot of postings regarding JCIS, and eCesys, as good vendors
for NS-FIP gear. I'd just like to report on my experience with NS-FIP
vendors, and recommend another vendor. This summer I put together a
computer music studio with three NS-FIP Pentium 90 (Intel Plato
motherboard) machines. I got quotes from Dell, Alpine, JCIS, and eCesys,
and a company called DataNet.
DataNet not only beat everyone's price by at least $1200 (no kidding),
they pre-loaded NS-FIP for no charge, went through all kinds of hardware
hassles getting sound to work perfectly (they did), and delivered three
systems on time, working perfectly. The systems are very fast, and have
had no problems.
I dealt with Steve Muir there. I give him and DataNet my highest
recommendation. He can be reached at smuir@eclipse.com or at
DataNet
(800) 695-1599
--
I have no connection with the company, I'm just a happy customer who knows
what a nightmare getting these NS-FIP machines to work.
Sean
P.S. Oh, the disk trouble I had a while ago was my own fault. I tried to
reformat the drive, and got a Front Porch error because of the > 2 gig
problem with NeXTStep. All better now.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Harvard Computer Music Studio
cello@mario.harvard.edu
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From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC Wingine machine--competition for Canon?
Date: 17 Oct 1994 12:59:22 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <37uhia$n6f@xmission.xmission.com>
I noticed in the hardware compatibility guide datestamped 12 Oct that
NeXT is planning to certify an NEC PowerMate for NEXTSTEP for Intel 3.3.
This machine, according to the guide, is a '486 VL-Bus Wingine machine.
Almost certainly, NEC has built this specifically to penetrate the NEXTSTEP
marketplace--Wingines suck for running Windows for various reasons.
My question is, is this a type of Intel workstation a la Canon object.station,
or is it a Windows box with a NEXTSTEP-optimized video subsystem thrown in?
My criteria for Intel workstation would be integrated audio, Ethernet, SCSI,
and so forth.
I see Mike Duggan post to this newsgroup occasionally. Mike, do you have any
official comments anbout this machine? Or is it old news?
..................................kris
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From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for quality cases and power supplies for Intel systems
Date: 17 Oct 1994 17:54:10 GMT
Message-ID: <37udo2$h0e@pubxfer2.news.psi.net>
References: <Cxp8BF.1u2@hot.com> <CxqDJv.LA@eskimo.com>
Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
: If you *really* want quality in design and materials, consider PC
: Power & Cooling, Inc.'s product line. You can reach them at
: (800)722-6555, or (619)931-5700.
And to clinch the deal, they sell their cases in charcoal black, too!
;-)
Brian Hess
bnh@active.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Kinesis / Re: MicroSoft's ergo keyboard with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 17 Oct 1994 15:37:53 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37ujqh$ems@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <thompsonCxn24F.GFu@netcom.com>
Eric Thompson writes
> <shawn@monitor.com> wrote:
> >
> >i have used the kinesis keyboards (we have two or three in the office) and
> >they're neat, but i could never quite get the hang of them.
>
>
> I had to use my Kinesis full-time for 1-2 weeks before I "got the hang of
> it" and quit missing keys. I think if you put in the time you'll realize
> the comfort, and the results.
>
I'll second Eric on this one... I started using my Kinesis in
August... I found it very difficult at first... its only recently that I have
truely 'found' the positions of the []{} keys for programming...
Its an adaptation..
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Cube and TI Laser Pro - How?
Message-ID: <1994Oct17.185746.10353@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <37p8gq$ial@goodnews.globalcom.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 18:57:46 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <37p8gq$ial@goodnews.globalcom.net> you
wrote:
> I have a TI microLaser Pro 600, and I have a Cube running 1.0a
> NextStep (until someone can get me something newer).
>
> I bought a Mac-style DIN connector for serial comm. between
> them both, and set it up as a Apple LaserWriter Plus (The TI is
> PS). Nothing happens when I try to print.
>
> I know this is a clueless newbie question - but then again, the combo
> works fine with NSFIP thru parallel to this same printer.
>
> Suggestions? Am I using the wrong cable? Do I have to buy
> some special one for the Next?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> Patrick
>
> PS If you have NS 2.1 or later on MO cart, let me know how much
> you want for it....I could use it, as long as it still has Mathematica
> and Common Lisp on it, plus Interface Builder....
Pin 6 and 8 on the printer carry the SEND+ RECEIVE+ RS422 signals.
Pin 6 and 8 on the NeXT carry RTS CTS.
So pin 6 and 8 must not be connected.
Hope that helps
Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Subject: Re: About HP and NeXTStep
Sender: news@cupnews0.cup.hp.com (News Admin)
Message-ID: <Cxu52u.15J@cup.hp.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 21:01:41 GMT
References: <37mk7q$iqm@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Cupertino, CA
In article <37mk7q$iqm@ousrvr.oulu.fi>, jtainio@rieska.oulu.fi (Jukka Tainio) writes:
|> I saw recently an article, where was a list of HP (PA-Risc) machines, that run NeXTStep.
|> Could someone repost that article, I seem to have lost it.
Don't have the article, but I have the answer :-)
712/60*
712/80*
715/33**
715/50**
715/64*
715/75**
715/80*
715/100*
735*
735/125*
755*
* Based on the 7100 architecture; on-board graphics simple 8 plane, requires
CRX24 accessory card for true 24-bit color.
** Based on 7100LC architecture; on-board graphics includes HP color recovery
technology for true 24-bit color.
--
Dave Waller
Hewlett-Packard Co. 19055 Pruneridge Ave.
Workstation Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-9809
Channel Partner Consulting, West (408|T) 447-4413
dwaller@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gcrow@netcom.com (George Crow)
Subject: Re: Ozone Filter in NeXT Printer
Message-ID: <gcrowCxu2Hr.31t@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <1994Oct17.021756.2224@weston.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 20:05:50 GMT
The ozone filter is made of activated charcoal and should not get wet.
If it is clogged with dust, blow it out with low pressure air. Unless is
is damaged, it should be good.
Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote:
: Can you wash an ozone fileter, or does it have to be replaced?
: Also what, exactly, is the purpose of the filter.
: Thanks
: Wes
: --
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From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Gecko vs. Pentium cost and performance?
Message-ID: <1994Oct17.153629.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 23:36:29 GMT
About 5 or 6 weeks ago, there was a fairly lengthy thread
discussing the relative merits of White versus Green hardware, more
specifically, Intel P90-based systems versus HP 712/60 and/or 712/80
(Gecko) systems.
Now the last thing I want to do is to start up another
religious/flame war. Please, no! But I would like to know if
anyone has (a) output of NXBench for these systems, and (b) the
typical cost of a _supported_ system configuration (that is, I
really don't want to play system integrator with Intel hardware...).
BTW, we would use this machine for numerical work as much as
anything, so I'm already looking into getting the SPECmarks for
these systems. Does anyone have an idea of how well gcc does on
HPPA versus using the native HP compiler (which apparently isn't
available under NeXTStep)? What about gcc on Pentiums (versus the
Intel compiler)?
As a point of reference, I've received a "quote for budgetary
purposes only" for a 712/60 system, which includes a 17" monitor, 32
MB of memory, a 1 GB disk and a CDROM, of _about_ $6000. I seem to
recall that most people recommended the 712/80 system, which is
approx. $1500 more expensive (that's from memory, I don't recall the
exact figures).
Thanks, Ken
--
Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu
SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX)
Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Drivers That Work!!
Date: 17 Oct 1994 18:57:16 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37uvgc$ad4@anshar.shadow.net>
Talus continues to write the drivers that NeXT won't (or can't). 3.2 lacked
PCI support, and Talus has written a PCI driver, along with a new NCR driver.
SCSI performance with the new drivers installed improved dramatically, from
around 1300kb/sec to over 2300kb/sec.
Talus has also developed a Soundblaster 16 driver that actually works!
The NeXT driver requires you to reboot to set playback or recording
modes, among other problems. The Talus driver works perfectly,
with no rebooting or adjustment for both playback and recording.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: bjohnson@euclid.verity.com (Brett M. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Chose wrong video mode, now I'm hosed...
Date: 17 Oct 1994 23:00:37 GMT
Organization: Verity Inc.
Message-ID: <37uvml$ka5@toucan.verity.com>
References: <37na6f$olj@xmission.xmission.com>
> Shawn Lynn (shawnl@wordperfect.com) wrote:
> : OK, yes, it was a stupid thing to do. I was configuring my new
#9GXE64
> : Pro and I chose the wrong video mode. Now the system boots, but when
it
> : changes into the high resolution mode, my monitor (Sony 20se) crumps.
> : So, my queestion is: how can I reset the system back to default VGA?
>
> : I've tried using the "config=Default" option at boot-up, but it does
no
> : good. The system simply freezes compeletely during the boot process.
> : At least if I let it boot normally, the system boots fine, I just
can't
> : see the screen.
>
> : Any solutions?
>
> : Thanks,
> : Shawn
The machine is probably hanging because "config=Default" doesn't correctly
handle the network stuff (that was my problem, anyway). What I finally
did was boot in single user mode (boot with the -s option), then edit
/usr/Devices/Number9.config/Instance?.table (using emacs, vi, ed, etc).
Locate the line that describes the option you changed just before blowing
up (ie "Display Mode"), then change it to something you know works.
Although, I have done this several times with the Talus ATI_PCI driver,
the syntax of the instance table probably isn't the same for #9 driver.
You might get help by looking in the Defaults.table in the same directory.
After editing the file, reboot.
Brett Johnson
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best ???
Date: 17 Oct 1994 21:32:30 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <37v8je$ect@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <Cxnw45.B9z@nntpa.cb.att.com> <37ualu$fnl@langlia.ifi.uio.no>
Arne Christian Hårseth (arneha@ifi.uio.no) wrote:
: Very good question, does any card work properly ?
: I haven't tried the SB-16, but some people on the net say it only works for
: playback with the current driver for next:
: > Except for one problem: It basically only works for playback. If you want
: > to record, you've got to reboot, record, then reboot again, and play
: > back. No way I'm going through that rigmarole just to record a 5-second
: > clip.
: >
: > - Jay
: So, are there any sound-card success-stories out there ????
Well, I finally have a success story. While the NeXT SB16 driver was less
than impressive, Talus has written a SB16 driver which works flawlessly.
- Jay
No NeXTmail...Yet
From: wwtaylor@aol.com (Wwtaylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q]: Will Diamond Stealth 64 work with NS
Date: 17 Oct 1994 23:49:10 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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References: <33gbli$nht@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <33gbli$nht@news.acns.nwu.edu>, dave@meena.feinberg.nwu.edu
(David A. Johnson) writes:
>>I just received a Micron P90PCI sysetm (Pentium at 90 MHz). I had tried
to configure it as close to the NeXTStep standard as possible.<<
How do you like the Micron system? I'm thinking about one for NS for IP,
and to run beta code on (NT, OS/2, Solaris, etc). I'd be very interested
in your experiences and opinions on this system.
I'm looking at this config: 32MB RAM, 512K cache, Stealth64, Buslogic
SCSI2, 3.5" floppy. I plan to use my current SCSI2 disks (Fujitsu and IBM)
and my Texel CDROM and NEC monitor. These all worked with NS before on my
486.
Thanks in advance,
WT
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which 64-bit graphics card is best for NSFIP?
Date: 18 Oct 1994 04:00:48 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37vh9g$uh0@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <37riqq$h83@blkbox.blkbox.COM>
In article <37riqq$h83@blkbox.blkbox.COM> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich
III) writes:
> We wrote the driver for the ATI mach64 and that's what we use in our
> office. We're very pleased with the performance. The mach64 with 4MB
> will give you 1152x896 in 32-bit color.
Could you quote a few numbers, Steve? I'd like to know what NXBench
NXFactor the card gives. 32-bit color numbers if that's what you always
use, but "16-bit" (ie 12 color 444 mode) numbers would also be of
interest, because that's what many systems (Object.station and others)
are quoted with.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
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From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: soundbox
Message-ID: <Cxusq7.4v7@usa.net>
Sender: news@usa.net (News)
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 05:32:30 GMT
where does a soundbox plug in?
The reason I ask is that i will be using my sony trinitron on my NeXTCube
and realized that I need to get a soundbox, i think. My old mono monitor
had a speaker in it. Now that i won't be using it...I wonder about the
sound in/out.
thanks
eric
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From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Hardrives for Black hardware...
Message-ID: <Cxusz5.5sA@usa.net>
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 05:37:53 GMT
What brand harddrives are supported for Black hardware? and how do you
format a new one?
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: eCesys Pentium Systems
Date: 18 Oct 1994 06:31:00 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <37vq34$otq@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <37ud16$q51@godot.cc.duq.edu>
In article <37ud16$q51@godot.cc.duq.edu>,
Jason Brown <brown@next.duq.edu> wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experiences with the eCesys
>intel systems configured to run NeXTstep.
>
>We're looking into upgrading some existing Black hardware with Intel boxes
>and have been looking into Canon Object.Stations and now the eCesys products.
>
I hve no idea how ecesys built machines compare against
others, but I bought a 486/66 Wingine video box from
them some time ago and was satisfied with it, compared to
my old Nextstation Turbo Color..
Just make sure there are enough simm slots for you...
Robert de Lucca
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From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Looking for quality cases and power supplies for Intel systems
Message-ID: <Cxuv1B.F2w@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Cxp8BF.1u2@hot.com> <CxqDJv.LA@eskimo.com> <37udo2$h0e@pubxfer2.news.psi.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 06:25:57 GMT
Brian Hess (bnh@active.com) wrote:
: Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
: : If you *really* want quality in design and materials, consider PC
: : Power & Cooling, Inc.'s product line. You can reach them at
: : (800)722-6555, or (619)931-5700.
: And to clinch the deal, they sell their cases in charcoal black, too!
Yep. That's what my tower is: A sheep in wolf's clothing. ;-)
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NEC Wingine machine--competition for Canon?
Message-ID: <bchin.782462576@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <37uhia$n6f@xmission.xmission.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 06:42:56 GMT
kris@xmission.com (kris) writes:
>My question is, is this a type of Intel workstation a la Canon object.station,
>or is it a Windows box with a NEXTSTEP-optimized video subsystem thrown in?
Is there a difference?
:-)
The Canon object.station is a 486DX4 100mhz system with a BusLogic BT445
VL-bus SCSI controller, Wingine video, 32 bit local bus AMD Lance ethernet,
free ISA slots. No PCI. The only piece not easily duplicated is the
32 bit ethernet. However, you can buy a 486 PCI system and put in one
of the latest 64 bit PCI video boards, PCI SCSI card, Cogent PCI ethernet,
and you'll have a system that'll perform as well as or better than
the Canon. When you go to Pentium (or any PCI machine, Intel CPU or not),
you'll probably* be able to take your peripheral cards too. Hell, for the
prices Canon wants, you can buy a 90mhz Pentium with the above PCI
cards and still have money left over.
Disclaimer: I've just had a bad experience trying to buy Canons.
*probably 'cause if you try it on a non-Intel machine, you'll need the
proper BIOS code; not all PCI boards have implemented multi-architecture
BIOS code yet and/or have BIOS code been written for say, the PowerPC or
Alpha PCI systems.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT 400dpi Printer not working ?
Date: 18 Oct 1994 08:27:57 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3800ud$1r7@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
The NeXT printer that I got with a 030 cube that I have just got hold
of does not appear to be working. When I use the PrinterManager it
always says that there is no printer attached to the printer port.
When the printer is powered up the fan is not spinning - is this
normal ? or is the power supply knackered ?
Cheers Rupert
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Best Prices for P90 system for NS
Date: 17 Oct 1994 16:16:50 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37u81i$5in@fermat.mayo.edu>
Here is my going list of best prices for a P90 homebrew system. Remember
to add ~$100 for misc. cables, etc. Page numbers refer to ads in the
October Computer Shopper. If you want a CD-ROM drive as well, factor in
another $200-$400. Most of these place do not charge a surcharge for
credit cards, although they all have 15-25% restocking fees if you return
something.
Note: I have nothing to do with these companies, and of them, I have only
dealt with Marco in the past, so Marco is the only company I can recommend
from personal experience. If nothing else, these figures can be used to
negotiate with other mail order vendors.
My machine is getting in early next week. Since so many folks seem to be
looking for decent P90 systems, I will post a summary of the process to
the net when the whole thing is working.
Ray
**************************
Intel Premiere/PCI II momboard 1205 Net Computer Intl.
(PS/2 connectors) (p.613)
+ Intel Pentium 90MHz CPU
2 16MB SIMMs (32Mb total) 1220 Marco (800) 621-4668
Western Digital 2540A 540Mb IDE HDD 289 Drive Outlet Center
(DOC p.383)
Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI card (req. NS 3.3 PR2!) 204 Hi-Tech (p.421)
Adaptec 2940W PCI wide SCSI card (supported??) 279 Hi-Tech
Micropolis 2217S 1.6Gb SCSI 2 HDD 849 DOC
Keyboard + Microsoft PS/2 bus mouse ~120
#9GXE Pro 64 w/ 4MB VRAM (PCI Video) 535 CAD Warehouse (p.495)
IDEK MF8617 17" (.26dp, 1280x1024 @80Hz)759 CAD Warehouse
Mid Tower Case w/power supply ~80
Teac 1.44 3.5" FDD ~40
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Basic soundcard 59 Midwest Micro (p.527)
Altec Lansing 300.1 speakers 226 Vektron (p. 374)
Intel EtherExpress 16 combo (TP+coax) 114 Vanderbilt Tech (p.493)
P90 cpu fan 20 various places
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
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From: Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu>
Subject: Scary Evolution of Windoze
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I just installed NT 3.5 on my Pentium machine. Before you flame me, I
would mention that thanks to all the help I have received on this
newsgroup I will install 3.2 very shortly also. That is, if someone from
Talus ever writes back to me about buying their driver/card combo (hint).
There is now the option under the Control Panel/Desktop applet to drag
the entire window around like NeXT Step does. None of this retro
dragging outlines like before. The really cool thing is that it is very,
very fast, which I found surprising for NT. It is almost perfectly
smooth on my Pentium 60, Diamond Stealth 64 driver. It is not even the
newest version of the driver and not meant for use with NT 3.5, so it can
only get better.
At any rate, it is good to see Microsoft implement at least one of the
features that makes NS machines so cool. If NeXT would get its act
together with drivers and timely releases, there would be much more for
Microsoft to copy. Until then, I can think about my Amiga.
Happy computing one and all!
Matt Webster
From: taweil@phakt.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: miroCrystal 40SV weird color!?
Date: 18 Oct 1994 03:07:49 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: taweil@phakt.usc.edu
Message-ID: <3806pl$8sm@phakt.usc.edu>
Hi,
I just finish installing a DECpc XL Server P590 with miroCrystal 40SV PCI.
However, the color of 40SV is very strange. Everything on the screen appear in
weird color. For example, the pancel in Edit icon appear to be BLUE!! Is there
a problem with miro's driver? By the way, the monitor is Nokia 445X.
Any suggestion or hints to correct this are greatly appreciated.
--
Ta-Wei "David" Li
UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California
Member, League for Programming Freedom
"Innovate, don't litigate."
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: right solution? many RS232 to Next
Date: 17 Oct 1994 08:14:04 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37tboc$6mc@danmeasure.dannug.dk>
References: <37hag5$i0p@seymour.sfu.ca>
In article <37hag5$i0p@seymour.sfu.ca> ken@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca (Ken Clark)
writes:
> Hi. I have an application that requires a large number of toasters to
> upload information via modem to a central database. We currently run
> on SCO Unix and use intelligent Digiboards, but want to move to
> NS/I to take advantage of the graphical interface (among other reasons).
> In particular, what stable drivers are available for what boards?
Someone
> mentioned that a terminal server is a solution. I know nothing about
these,
> and less about them working with Next. Any pointers or help is very
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Ken
Hi Ken,
Try the Central Data solution.
They produce good SCSI terminals and have drivers for NeXT, as well as a
lot of others OS.
Your Next system will have to have SCSI.
The adress is: 1602 Newton Drive
Champaign, IL
Telephone: 217 / 359-8010
Fax : 217 / 359-6904
We use their ST1008+ with 8 seriel and 1 parallel port, with no problem.
The Sales managers name is Andre B. Felix, and he is a very nice and
helping person.
Soren sw@dannug.dk Denmark
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: soundbox
Date: 18 Oct 1994 12:20:26 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <380eia$1ap@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <Cxusq7.4v7@usa.net>
bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes:
>where does a soundbox plug in?
>The reason I ask is that i will be using my sony trinitron on my NeXTCube
>and realized that I need to get a soundbox, i think. My old mono monitor
>had a speaker in it. Now that i won't be using it...I wonder about the
>sound in/out.
>thanks
>eric
You plug your existing mono monitor cable (the one tat runs from the
motherboard) into it. The keyboard then plugs into the soundbox, instead
of the monitor. I assume you've installed a NeXTdimension board (waste of
a Trinitron, otherwise :-); the color monitor cable runs from the ND to
the color monitor. This is how you can run a NeXTdimenson system with
2 monitors, btw.
As for sound I/O, The soundbox has a speaker and microphone, as well as
stereo output jacks and a microphone jack, just like a mono monitor.
cheers,
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
"Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: stephen@cci.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM drives on black
Date: 18 Oct 1994 14:11:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <380l36$6nh@news.tamu.edu>
Keywords: cd-rom
Should all SCSI cd-rom drives work on the black hw, including Mac scsi?
Stephen Johnson, srjohnson@tamu.edu
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fiery 200i printer driver for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <1994Oct18.081729.30272@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 18 Oct 94 08:17:29 MDT
References: <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <rbzCxtn6F.AJM@netcom.com>, rbz@netcom.com (Rodger B. Zeisler) writes:
> I am trying to print some color .draw documents and I am having troubles.
>
> I need a NeXT printer driver for a Fiery 200i color postscript printer. This
> is the printer that the local printshop has.
>
> Any suggestions or sources?
All you need is the PPD (PostScript Printer Definition) file. Your printshop
should be able to give you a copy. It is just a text file. Then you will need
to put that PPD file in the folder ~/Library/PrinterTypes
Make sure you name the file with a .ppd extension. Now add a new printer with
PrintManager.app of the newly added type. Now whenever you print your stuff to
this printer, just hit save on the print panel and pick "Chosen Printer -
Include Fonts" and you are set.
You might also have some luck finding the PPD at ftp.adobe.com (I think).
======================================================================
John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred)
Programmer/Analyst slxn8@cc.usu.edu -or-
[Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
"Life is too important to take seriously."
======================================================================
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9 GXE64 at 72Hz?
Date: 18 Oct 1994 16:28:09 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <380t2p$aa3@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Can the #9 GXE64 drivers (beta) be setup for 1024x768x16 at 72Hz?
The listed vertical refresh is 60 or 76Hz, and my monitor only
supports 72Hz at that resolution. 60Hz gives me a headache.
Thanks!
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: taweil@phakt.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <3806pl$8sm@phakt.usc.edu>
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--
Ta-Wei "David" Li
UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California
Member, League for Programming Freedom
"Innovate, don't litigate."
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From: david@zion.com(David J. Ferrero)
Subject: NSC FIMI Color monitor---->Intel System?
Message-ID: <1994Oct18.155845.2304@zion.com>
Keywords: FIMI color monitor intel
Sender: david@zion.com
Organization: Zion Software & Consulting
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 15:58:45 GMT
Anyone know if a 17" Fimi type color monitor used with a NSC system would
work with any Intel Video cards, etc.
If NSC can drive some color monitors, if Intel/Video card can drive a NSC
monitor?
Regards,
David
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From: jocke@rat.se (Joakim Johansson)
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best ???
Message-ID: <Cxvn3B.M5n@rat.se>
Sender: jocke@rat.se (Joakim Johansson)
Organization: Research & Trade, AB.
References: <37ualu$fnl@langlia.ifi.uio.no>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 16:27:11 GMT
In article <37ualu$fnl@langlia.ifi.uio.no> arneha@ifi.uio.no
(Arne Christian H rseth) writes:
> [snip]
>
> Very good question, does any card work properly ?
>
> [snip again]
>
> I dont't now much about the Microsoft Sound System,
> but I heard somewhere that it isn't very advanced.
>
> So, are there any sound-card success-stories out there ????
Well, I'm pretty happy with my AudioTrix Pro soundcard (*), it has worked
without a hitch together with my Adaptec 1740 (still without a decent
driver, guess we'll never see one... :-( ), and a VL-bus s3/928 (+ a tape
drive and a couple of HD:s).
It should also work with the Music Kit, as it has a MPU-401 compatible MIDI
interface (haven't tested this yet though, The MK is a little to big to
transfer via modem for my taste...)
Joakim
(*) it uses the MS Windows Sound System drivers but I seem to remember a
some posting about a native driver being developed for 3.3...
--
Joakim Johansson | "The truth is the one thing that
Software Developer @ Research & Trade | nobody will believe."
jocke@rat.se <NeXTmail> | - George Bernard Shaw
From: patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu (Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: memory upgrade on black hardware
Date: 18 Oct 1994 18:24:02 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3813s2$s9g@news.nd.edu>
I am looking into upgrading a black 040 NeXTStation
that currently has 8 megs RAM to somehting like 12
or 16 megs at the lowest possible price :-). Talked
to several vendors on the list of NeXT SIMMS vendors
at sonata and got conflicting replies.
Some of them claim that the SIMMS have to be installed
in pairs, so in order to get 16 megs all I have to do
is add 2 4 meggers @$140/each. Other sales droids told
me that the SIMMS have to be installed in quads, so if
I want 16 megs I have to install FOUR 4 meggers at twice
the price and throw the current SIMMS away.
So my question is which one is telling the truth?
I cannot afford to spend 4x$140 = $560 for a memory
upgrade so if the SIMMS have to be installed in quads
I am screwed. I'd appreciate it if anyone could tell
me what my options are for about $300. I can be flexible
in terms of the amount of RAM I have (e.g. 12 meg instead
of 16) but not about the total price :-(.
Please email, if possible.
Thanks!
P.S. How come there is no NeXT hardware FAQ on
rtfm.mit.edu?
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Message-ID: <845@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: 17 Oct 94 18:17:24 GMT
References: <37sesa$na4@network.ucsd.edu>
Sender: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl
Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
In article <37sesa$na4@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
writes:
> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
> : NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not have SMP support, nor will 3.3 (as far as I can
> : tell).
Are you sure ? How did they demolish the inherit SMP design of Mach then ?
(assuming that Mach 2.5 looks the same from this perspective as Mach 3.0,
of which the sources, as issued from CMU, dated February 1991, rest on my
shelf just right here).
I do assume, however, that they used the NCPUS #define to compile the
kernel for the current batch of (mono-CPU) machines supported - there is a
performance incentive to compile for just one CPU ...
> What about not-S MP? For 2 pentiums not doing database serving I really
> don't see much disadvantage.
Well, if it works, why break it (see above) ?
--
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Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
Phone: +31 3461 4290; Fax: +31 3461 4286
No Disclaimer: I claim, therefore I am.
From: mayojoh@ac.com (Jack Mayo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Install problems: NSFIP 3.2
Date: 17 Oct 1994 22:16:03 -0500
Organization: Kill your DOS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <37velj$a8c@servo.ac.com>
Summary: keyboard lockup
Keywords: hang, keyboard, FIP 3.2
Hi!
I've been trying to install NS 3.2 on my Zeos 486 all night. The install
goes fine up until the final confirmation before configuring disks
where it says: "Type 1 to prepare to install NeXTstep. Type 2 to quit."
I type 1, press return and nothing happens. The keyboard hangs and I am
unable to go any further. If I unplug and re-plugin the keyboard, sometimes
I can get to the next prompt, but never any farther. (Yes, I am well
aware that I shouldn't unplug the keyboard on a running machine.)
I did apply the NeXTanswer "Boot drivers" workaround to avoid loading the
PS2 mouse driver. I tried a different keyboard (both AT-style). (I'm
typing on that other keyboard right now, so I know it works. :)
Here's my hardware setup:
Zeos 486/66 DX2
Adaptec 1542CF SCSI adapter with BIOS and floppy controller disabled
- BIOS enabled made no difference
Diamond SpeedStar Pro Graphics board
Western Digital 425 meg drive
28 meg memory
128k cache
I pulled my other cards and got the thing down to the bare minimum needed
to boot NS, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. Anybody got any
clues? If you need any more info, let me know.
Save me from DOS! :)
Thanks!
Jack Mayo
--
mayojoh@ac.com | Disclaimer: What I say isn't what they say.
"It may not be a wise rule we are applying, but it is the rule that binds us."
- U.of MN. law prof
Visualize Whirled Peas. Ignore my spelling mistakes.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Disk Benchmarks
Date: 18 Oct 1994 19:48:13 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <3818pt$rh8@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I just reran the Bonnie disk benchmark on my Dell Pentium XPS-90 with 64GB
and an ISA Adaptec 1542CF controller on a Seagate ST43400N 3GB disk.
When I ran it earlier, I reported on my 512byte/sector other Seagate 1.5GB
disk:
-------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random--
-Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU
100 384 25.0 383 14.0 268 12.0 931 64.1 943 23.0 32.3 9.4
After using sdform* from the archives to reformat to 1024byte/sector (and
a newfs with -r 5400, which does not seem to make much difference in my
case), I now get on my Seagate 43400N:
-------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random--
-Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU
100 612 50.1 601 28.9 353 20.2 1040 82.1 1112 40.7 49.2 31.8
which looks much better, but is still fairly mediocre. Curious how the PCI
Adaptec will do once NS 3.3 will run stably. Has anyone managed to
increase disk performance much above this?
For comparison, here are some other scores on old machines:
-------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input--
--Random--
-Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block---
--Seeks---
Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec
%CPU
Sun4/260 78 285 90.9 650 26.4 305 20.0 282 95.5 803 28.3 38.5
15.2
Mips M2k 180 387 44.0 442 6.1 360 5.4 416 48.1 1701 14.8 26.3
3.1
Sequent 95 140 97.8 1017 66.2 251 17.7 122 95.7 713 34.9 31.0
15.9
4M i386 25 130 90.5 199 26.1 179 46.1 121 93.5 400 59.7 10.5
23.8
NeXT 125 241 94.7 347 39.3 253 31.7 246 94.8 772 49.6 27.7
20.8
VAX 8650 200 208 89.0 232 8.3 143 7.4 197 65.0 373 8.6 17.3
4.6
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
PS: My Bytebenchmarks are now:
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 613.0 1.2
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 53550.0 2.9
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 666.0 1.1
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Date: 18 Oct 1994 20:09:49 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <381a2d$bh8@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <845@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Toon Moene writes:
> Matt Kennel writes:
> > Jay Fuchswrote:
> > : NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not have SMP support, nor will 3.3 (as far as I
> > : can tell).
>
> Are you sure ? How did they demolish the inherit SMP design of
> Mach then ?
Mach has an API "designed" for multiprocessor systems in mind. However
the kernel code that supports multiple CPUs has to be written and tested.
It's like writing a driver. It is device dependent, must be written for
the software to work with the device and it must be tested.
I'm sure they will include SMP support eventually. They probably have
their hands full. I would expect it after the SPARC port.
By the way, will SMP SPARC systems be supported?
- ricardo
#import "std_disclaimer.h"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: campbelr@cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell)
Subject: Re: About HP and NeXTStep
Sender: news@cupnews0.cup.hp.com (News Admin)
Message-ID: <CxvxMA.JzD@cup.hp.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 20:15:46 GMT
References: <37mk7q$iqm@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <Cxu52u.15J@cup.hp.com>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
Dave Waller (dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com) wrote:
: Don't have the article, but I have the answer :-)
: 712/60*
: 712/80*
: 715/33**
: 715/50**
: 715/64*
: 715/75**
: 715/80*
: 715/100*
: 735*
: 735/125*
: 755*
: * Based on the 7100 architecture; on-board graphics simple 8 plane, requires
: CRX24 accessory card for true 24-bit color.
:
: ** Based on 7100LC architecture; on-board graphics includes HP color recovery
: technology for true 24-bit color.
Actually, I believe Dave got the "*" and the "**" reversed. The 712
(Gecko) boxes have the 7100LC and color recovery.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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campbelr@cup.hp.com talking, when I hear the silly things you say.
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From: dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com (Dave Waller)
Subject: Re: About HP and NeXTStep
Sender: news@cupnews0.cup.hp.com (News Admin)
Message-ID: <Cxw085.MqI@cup.hp.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:12:05 GMT
References: <37mk7q$iqm@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <Cxu52u.15J@cup.hp.com> <CxvxMA.JzD@cup.hp.com>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Cupertino, CA
In article <CxvxMA.JzD@cup.hp.com>, campbelr@cup.hp.com (Bob Campbell) writes:
|> Dave Waller (dwaller@hpdstma.cup.hp.com) wrote:
|>
|> : Don't have the article, but I have the answer :-)
|>
|> : 712/60*
|> : 712/80*
|> : 715/33**
|> : 715/50**
|> : 715/64*
|> : 715/75**
|> : 715/80*
|> : 715/100*
|> : 735*
|> : 735/125*
|> : 755*
|>
|> : * Based on the 7100 architecture; on-board graphics simple 8 plane, requires
|> : CRX24 accessory card for true 24-bit color.
|> :
|> : ** Based on 7100LC architecture; on-board graphics includes HP color recovery
|> : technology for true 24-bit color.
|>
|> Actually, I believe Dave got the "*" and the "**" reversed. The 712
|> (Gecko) boxes have the 7100LC and color recovery.
Just checking to see if anyone was really listening :-)
My buddy Bob's absolutely correct. Sorry for the typo, gang.
--
Dave Waller
Hewlett-Packard Co. 19055 Pruneridge Ave.
Workstation Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-9809
Channel Partner Consulting, West (408|T) 447-4413
dwaller@cup.hp.com
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Scary Evolution of Windoze
Message-ID: <Cxv6oq.BFD@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941015042438.808F-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 10:34:01 GMT
In article <Pine.SUN.3.90.941015042438.808F-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu>
Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> writes:
> There is now the option under the Control Panel/Desktop applet to drag
> the entire window around like NeXT Step does. None of this retro
> dragging outlines like before. The really cool thing is that it is very,
> very fast, which I found surprising for NT. It is almost perfectly
> smooth on my Pentium 60, Diamond Stealth 64 driver. It is not even the
> newest version of the driver and not meant for use with NT 3.5, so it can
> only get better.
>
> At any rate, it is good to see Microsoft implement at least one of the
> features that makes NS machines so cool.
According to Cringely in Infoworld this feature got dropped from
Chicago/Windows 95 at the very last minute, but might make it back in the form
of an "add-on" pack.
Its cute but..
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
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Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Message-ID: <1994Oct18.182409.30366@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (mike emmel)
Date: 18 Oct 94 18:24:09 MDT
References: <381a2d$bh8@digdug.pencom.com>
In article <381a2d$bh8@digdug.pencom.com> writes:
> Toon Moene writes:
> > Matt Kennel writes:
> > > Jay Fuchswrote:
> > > : NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not have SMP support, nor will 3.3 (as far as I
> > > : can tell).
> >
> > Are you sure ? How did they demolish the inherit SMP design of
> > Mach then ?
>
> Mach has an API "designed" for multiprocessor systems in mind. However
> the kernel code that supports multiple CPUs has to be written and
tested.
> It's like writing a driver. It is device dependent, must be written for
> the software to work with the device and it must be tested.
>
> I'm sure they will include SMP support eventually. They probably have
> their hands full. I would expect it after the SPARC port.
>
> By the way, will SMP SPARC systems be supported?
>
> - ricardo
>
> #import "std_disclaimer.h"
So basically smp is inherent in Mach just nned teh driver support how hard
is that? Will it be in 3.3?
I'm thinking a bit about buying a dual pentium board (with one chip) its
not that much more
but why do it if NeXT won't support it soon.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: Looking for some of the hardware designers for NeXT computers
Message-ID: <1994Oct19.002530.10731@mixcom.com>
Sender: news@mixcom.com (Net News Admin)
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milw, WI (414) 351-1139
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 00:25:30 GMT
Netland,
We need to contact anyone who was involved in the making of the CPU's. I assume
that they are all at CANON. If anyone knows of an email address where I can send
a small message, we have a question.
---
Alberto Ricart
SmartSoft, Inc.
2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Date: 19 Oct 1994 02:51:40 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <3821js$jfv@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
References: <37sesa$na4@network.ucsd.edu> <845@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl) wrote:
: In article <37sesa$na4@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
: writes:
: > Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
: > : NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not have SMP support, nor will 3.3 (as far as I can
: > : tell).
: Are you sure ? How did they demolish the inherit SMP design of Mach then ?
: (assuming that Mach 2.5 looks the same from this perspective as Mach 3.0,
: of which the sources, as issued from CMU, dated February 1991, rest on my
: shelf just right here).
I think that NeXTStep runs as a windowing server for BSD, which itself
runs as a user process on top of mach 2.0, (or is it 2.5?) but from
what I understand, multiprocessor support is inherant in 3.0 and
later. NeXTStep needs to upgrade the mach kernel to support MP.
Thus, it is a MAJOR upgrade, so for sure it won't be seen in 3.3
maybe 4.0 :)
: I do assume, however, that they used the NCPUS #define to compile the
: kernel for the current batch of (mono-CPU) machines supported - there is a
: performance incentive to compile for just one CPU ...
: > What about not-S MP? For 2 pentiums not doing database serving I really
: > don't see much disadvantage.
: Well, if it works, why break it (see above) ?
: --
: Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl)
: Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
: Phone: +31 3461 4290; Fax: +31 3461 4286
: No Disclaimer: I claim, therefore I am.
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP config - 17inch,32meg,1gig.ATI GUP VLB
NeXT config - 17 inch,20meg,400meg,mono
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Hardware recommendations
Date: 19 Oct 1994 03:19:51 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <38238n$4jo@News1.mcs.com>
I'd like to get opinions/recommendations on laser printers and sound cards
for my Intel machine. I've looked at the HP 4L and 4M (I think that's the
models, one's 300 dpi and one's 600 dpi) and will probably lean that way
unless I hear horror stories.
I'm also interested in soundcard or soundcard/cd rom combos. I'm totally
clueless here, so I'm open to anything.
Any help is appreciated.
thanks,
tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sakaino@ariel.edu.iwate-u.ac.jp (Naoki Sakaino)
Subject: Re: Hardrives for Black hardware...
Sender: news@msv.cc.iwate-u.ac.jp (News Administrator)
Message-ID: <CxwIzn.CCA@msv.cc.iwate-u.ac.jp>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 03:57:23 GMT
References: <Cxusz5.5sA@usa.net>
Organization: Computer Center, Iwate University, Morioka, JAPAN
In article <Cxusz5.5sA@usa.net> bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes:
>
> What brand harddrives are supported for Black hardware? and how do you
> format a new one?
>
Format your hard drive by Macintosh, and NeXT can initialize it.
I've tried many drives from various vendors (Conner, Quantum, Seagate,
Fujitsu, etc.) and all work without any problem so far.
Hope it helps.
--
--- thought is free -- Shakespeare
Naoki Sakaino, Fac. of Edu., Iwate University
Morioka 020 JAPAN
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: hosed NS/i system, unexpected kernel traps
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 00:33:17 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4id_6Ba00WBNMCTEoW@andrew.cmu.edu>
I've been having some difficulty lately with my white NS box. It started
when my system froze during a 22MB FTP transfer. Since then my system
has not booted without an error. Configuration: Adaptec 1542CF, PAS
Basic, Intel EtherExpress16C, ATI GUP VLB 2MB, 486DX/33, 20MB RAM, 632MB
HD, Serial Mouse. The system has worked fine for over a month. I also
installed the MusicKit 4.01beta (I believe) as root since then and added
the Ariel driver to my config although I don't own one. The drive
wouldn't boot, so I saved my data on another drive and reformatted this
one (a Seagate ST4766N); but during installation (the part where NS
prepares your drive for installation) I get:
unexpected kernel trap e eip 18f019
memory access exception (1,1,c1fe9f88)
waiting foir remote debugger connection.
(Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
and the machine hangs (doesn't accept either 'c' or 'r'). Does anyone at
Next have anything to say about this? It's very unexpected as I've been
working flawlessly for over a month with this configuration. The only
thing I can think about the memory access exception is that my system
sometimes doesn't recognize my 1meg SIMMs and only registers 16MB RAM,
but I doubt this is the problem as this problem is older than NS has
been on my machine. One final note, the Seagate is pretty old I gather
(two years) since I bought it used and it is rather large (the size of a
new external gig including external case). Thanks for any help or advice.
-Leo
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
|>> Leo Turetsky <<|>> leo@uni.pc.cc.cmu.edu (NeXTMail Welcome) <<|
| Carnegie-Mellon U. | Leo, your Mom called while you were in Ohio. |
|-------------------esp---------------------------------------------|
| "Did you get your 100% USRDA of vitamins A C L M R and T today?" |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: hosed NS/i system, unexpected kernel traps
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 00:35:20 -0400
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Qid_88K00WBNECTFJW@andrew.cmu.edu>
By the way, since my machine is down, my e-mail is either
lt2a@andrew.cmu.edu or the public boards. Any mail sent to
leo@uni.pc.cc.cmu.edu will die or be returned. Thanks.
-Leo
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
|>> Leo Turetsky <<|>> leo@uni.pc.cc.cmu.edu (NeXTMail Welcome) <<|
| Carnegie-Mellon U. | Leo, your Mom called while you were in Ohio. |
|-------------------esp---------------------------------------------|
| "Did you get your 100% USRDA of vitamins A C L M R and T today?" |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 19 Oct 1994 07:52:47 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <382j8f$fid@news.iastate.edu>
References: <38238n$4jo@News1.mcs.com>
Tom Meyer (tmeyer@mcs.com) wrote:
: I'd like to get opinions/recommendations on laser printers and sound cards
: for my Intel machine. I've looked at the HP 4L and 4M (I think that's the
: models, one's 300 dpi and one's 600 dpi) and will probably lean that way
: unless I hear horror stories.
HP 4L is not postscript. HP 4ML (I'm using.) is postscript.
HP 4M is 600dpi postscript.
Chris
From: gloger@dbulm1.uucp (Jochen Gloger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: exporting CDROM drive to the network???
Message-ID: <1994Oct19.095613.640@dbulm1.uucp>
Date: 19 Oct 94 09:56:13 +0100
Keywords: SCSI, mount, exportfs, external CDROM
Distribution: world
Organization: Daimler-Benz, Forschungszentrum Ulm
Hi,
I have a problem to mount and to export an external CDROM drive on a black
machine. When I try to do this in a similiar manner like mounting and
exporting an external hard disk (NFSmanager + entry in fstab), it does not
work.
How can I manage this that an external CDROM drive is visible via the network.
And, how do I provide a method that the filesystem is updated all over the
network if the CDROM which is an the drive is removed and replaced by another
one?? Any hints??
Regards
Jochen
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=====================================================================
Jochen Gloger, Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm,
Institute of Information Technology, Department of Text Understanding
Phone: +49 731 505 2353, Fax: +49 731 505 4113
Address: Wilhelm-Runge-Str.11, P.O. Box 23 60, 89013 Ulm, Germany
Email: gloger@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM
=====================================================================
From: kallinte@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Nikolaos Kallinteris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Toshiba 3501 CDROM with Next?
Date: 19 Oct 1994 13:04:17 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3835gh$cv@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Hi !
Does anybody know whether Quadra Speed CDRoms work with black hardware
and NS3.2 ?
Which drives have you tested ?
Thanks,
Marc
kallinte
kallinte@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
From: rft@raven.cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Date: 19 Oct 1994 12:25:27 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <38337n$1bc@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3821js$jfv@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Wasn't there a version of the NeXTStep GUI (specifically the AppKit), that
had been made thread-save for the dual-Motorola 88 110 Workstations?
If yes, then we may assume that the modified Mach Kernel which is used by
NeXT does indeed have multiporcessor support. (Or it least it did at one
time.)
__________________________________________________________
Robert F. Tobler, rft@cs.stanford.edu, rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: exporting CDROM drive to the network???
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:25:21 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4idGlFa00iVDE2PR85@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Oct19.095613.640@dbulm1.uucp>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Oct-94 exporting CDROM
drive to th.. by Jochen Gloger@dbulm1.uuc
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem to mount and to export an external CDROM drive on a black
> machine. When I try to do this in a similiar manner like mounting and
> exporting an external hard disk (NFSmanager + entry in fstab), it does not
> work.
That doesn't work, unfortunately, although hopefully it will be fixed
soon. The only solution I know of is to mount and export the CD-ROM
from another Unix machine (ie, not running NEXTSTEP).
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for some of the hardware designers for NeXT computers
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:27:48 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <kidGnYq00iVDM2PRcu@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Oct19.002530.10731@mixcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Oct-94 Looking for some
of the har.. by Manuel A. Ricart@smartso
> Netland,
>
> We need to contact anyone who was involved in the making of the CPU's.
The CPU's themselves and not the motherboards?
> I assume that they are all at CANON.
If yes to the above, I'd assume they were all at Motorola. :-)
> If anyone knows of an email address where I can send a small message, we
> have a question.
Perhaps you should simply just ask the question here, and perhaps
someone'll be motivated to answer it....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DONALD E)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dual booting and SCSI access?
Date: 19 Oct 1994 09:14 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <19OCT199409143342@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. I have a NeXTcube etherneted to my new Intel box which can boot to
NS/I or DOS/Windows. I have a NCR-based SCSI card on the Intel box.
My HSD ScanX Pro scanner and WangDAT DAT drive are still on the Cube side.
I'd like to bring them over to the NS/I box and access them from whatever
OS happens to be booted. I don't anticipate any problems on the NS/I
side (I have SafetyNet and MetroScan, etc.). However, I'm not sure what
I will need to do to get access to the devices on the Windows side.
Do I need special device drivers in addition to whatever Windows software
I end up getting for back up and image processing? Or is the fact that
I have a SCSI driver for DOS/Windows sufficient?
Advice appreciated.
Thanks!
Don McCollam
mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff Martin)
Subject: #9 GXE 64 Pro 4 meg problem
Message-ID: <1994Oct19.161417.10825@bozell.com>
Sender: news@bozell.com
Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 16:14:17 GMT
We have 4 machines with #9 GXE64Pro 4meg cards. Two of them work fine at
all resolutions. Two of them produce multiple images (some sort of wrap
around effect) at resolutions over 1024x768. Any ideas?
... jeff
From: mnp!mpaque@NeXT.COM (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP
Date: 19 Oct 1994 16:18:17 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9410192112.AA04274@mnp.next.com>
Watching the recent thread of discussion "Re: Dual Pentium and
NeXTStep?" is rather like watching a game of telephone, with
information mutating from one message to the next. I can't stand it
anymore...
Here's some real information, from press releases, speeches by
assorted officers of NeXT, and whatnot. Nothing here that can't be
found out by anyone willing to do a little research.
1) The NEXTSTEP Mach kernel is based on Mach 2.0, with a number of
enhancements picked up from Mach 2.5. The Mach kernel in NEXTSTEP
3.3 will incorporate additional enhancements from Mach 3.0,
particularly in the areas of scheduling and messaging.
2) The Mach kernel is designed to work in a symmetric multiprocessor
environment. There are two areas that need to be addressed to
implement SMP support (along with several hundred details...).
First, the kernel must be compiled for use with multiple processors.
This causes mutex locks to be compiled into the kernel to serialize
access to critical sections. That's the easy part.
Second, the machine-dependent code needed to manage multiprocessor
initialization, resource management, thread migration, and whatnot
needs to be written. There is a C language API in the Mach kernel
that covers most of the machine dependencies.
In the case of the Intel platforms, this gets tricky, as there are
now FOUR different specifications kicking around for SMP board
design. There are two versions of the Intel-led SMP consortium's
spec, another multi-vendor spec, and even a spec from a consortium of
chip set manufacturers. Three of these specifications have actually
been implemented in hardware to varying degrees.
3) The AppKit is not thread-safe (not even on the old m88k and 601
SMP prototype hardware Mr. Jobs and others have mentioned). Oh, it's
been thought about, but fundamentally the AppKit is an inappropriate
candidate for multithreaded operation. The degree of interlocking
required would effectively serialize the entire kit, with no
performance gain (in fact, a net loss!) over the current kit. Think
of the AppKit as a set of tools used to manipulate the global state
of a GUI, and you may see what I mean.
In general, I think a developer's time and energy would be better
spent decoupling the application's GUI and core functionality,
permitting the GUI to run in one thread, and the core functionality
torun in one or more other threads (or even on a fast back-end
processor through PDO).
Mike Paquette
=====
I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me.
From: czyz@Eeyore.Stanford.EDU (Paul Czyzewski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will nextstep and linux run on this configuration?
Date: 19 Oct 1994 22:06:14 GMT
Organization: .
Message-ID: <38458m$sml@Times.Stanford.EDU>
I'm shopping for a system to run nextstep, linux, and windows, and am
wondering if the following would work:
-- Pentium 90 CPU
-- 32 Meg of memory
-- "Premier" motherboard (sold by NCA Computer Products in the
Silicon Valley. They claim it's made by Intel. Board itself doesn't
say, other than that it's made in Ireland. Magazine reviews seem
to love the "Intel 'Neptune' chipset." Anyone know how to identify
that? How about "Intel 'Plato' motherboard", which I've also seen
referenced?)
-- Nokia 447X 17" monitor
-- video card: either (1) Diamond Stealth 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg
or (2) Number 9 DXE Pro 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg.
(I've heard that the former may have some PCI-related problems. Also
wondering about Nextstep and Linux drivers (native or third-party)
for each of the above.)
-- SCSI controller: Adeptek 2940. Next is supposed to support
this in 3.3. Any word on whether Linux does, or predictions on how
long it will take?
-- SCSI CD-ROM: probably 2x? Are there big advantages to 3X or
4X (I'm not a game-player)?
-- SCSI hard disk: possibly IBM 1.0GB Fast SCSI-II
-- floppy drive, keyboard, mouse.
I'd appreciate advice, especially regarding the motherboard and the drivers
for the video card(s) and SCSI controller.
Also, any reccomendations re postscript printers and scanners would
be appreciated (inexpensive). I'm thinking I may have to do scanning from
DOS/windows for the time being.
Thanks
Paul Czyzewski 415-328-3407 czyz@eeyore.stanford.edu
From: mhae@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE.bbn.hp.com (Michael Haeuptle)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 13:38:14 GMT
Subject: WangDAT 3200
Message-ID: <3837g6$jc2@hpbblb.bbn.hp.com>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Hi there,
are there any problem using a WangDAT 3200 dat-tape under NeXTStep (black
hardware). How is the performance? Do I have to set the block size to fixed?
(I know this has been answered some time ago, but I haven't saved the posts...)
Regards,
Michael
--
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NSMD, Hewlett-Packard - Boeblingen/Germany
voice: +49 7031 14-7129
email: Michael_Haeuptle@hpbbn.bbn.hp.com
(at home: mhae@jester.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail))
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP
Date: 20 Oct 1994 00:41:11 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <384eb7$efd@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <9410192112.AA04274@mnp.next.com>
Followups-to: comp.sys.next.software
Mike Paquette (mnp!mpaque@NeXT.COM) wrote:
: 3) The AppKit is not thread-safe (not even on the old m88k and 601
: SMP prototype hardware Mr. Jobs and others have mentioned). Oh, it's
: been thought about, but fundamentally the AppKit is an inappropriate
: candidate for multithreaded operation. The degree of interlocking
: required would effectively serialize the entire kit, with no
: performance gain (in fact, a net loss!) over the current kit. Think
: of the AppKit as a set of tools used to manipulate the global state
: of a GUI, and you may see what I mean.
Would even a thread safe AppKit be necessary? Look at X on
Solaris. I can run 2 X programs and a calculational job
in the background and the X server. I don't think that
Xlib is threaded or even needs to be. (local data is
for each process--you link Xlib with the program,
not the shared server).
Multiprocessing is still nice, as long as there are multiple
processes that could be run at once, right?
I.e. could I have one process be my own GUI programming
sending DPS events and the other process be the WindowServer
rasterizing and eating up events from the queue? That would
be fine by me.
Sounds like all you need is a MP safe event queue that processes can push
and the window server can pop. That can't be too hard, right?
Multithreaded windowserver and applications would be nicer still
but MP now would still be cool.
: Mike Paquette
: =====
: I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me.
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Will nextstep and linux run on this configuration?
Date: 20 Oct 1994 01:43:58 GMT
Organization: GlobalCom
Message-ID: <384i0u$7et@goodnews.globalcom.net>
References: <38458m$sml@Times.Stanford.EDU>
In article <38458m$sml@Times.Stanford.EDU>, czyz@Eeyore.Stanford.EDU (Paul Czyzewski) says:
>I'm shopping for a system to run nextstep, linux, and windows, and am
>wondering if the following would work:
> -- Pentium 90 CPU
> -- 32 Meg of memory
> -- "Premier" motherboard
CHOMP*
> -- Nokia 447X 17" monitor
OK...
> -- video card: either (1) Diamond Stealth 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg
or (2) Number 9 DXE Pro 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg.
***NOTE: Diamond Products not supported under Linux....
> (I've heard that the former may have some PCI-related problems. Also
> wondering about Nextstep and Linux drivers (native or third-party)
> for each of the above.)
> -- SCSI controller: Adeptek 2940. Next is supposed to support
I would suggest the Buslogics. We have them on one of the machines that
are on the Net, and they seem to work great. Tech support at a different
PC unix company told me that Buslogic's tech support is much more
willing to work with them than Adaptec; this tech guy claims that Adaptec
is not as friendly with working with them on device driver development.
> this in 3.3. Any word on whether Linux does, or predictions on how
> long it will take?
> -- SCSI CD-ROM: probably 2x? Are there big advantages to 3X or
> 4X (I'm not a game-player)?
> -- SCSI hard disk: possibly IBM 1.0GB Fast SCSI-II
note: when formatting with NS, check out rotation speed option
(mentioned recently in one of the threads)
> -- floppy drive, keyboard, mouse
3.5 inch floppy only, will not support 5.25 inchers (NS)
>I'd appreciate advice, especially regarding the motherboard and the drivers
>for the video card(s) and SCSI controller.
> Also, any reccomendations re postscript printers and scanners would
Printers: I like my TI microLaser Pro 600...works fine (or seems to).
There is (for NextStep) a scanmaker.app on cs.orst.edu that works with
the Microtek 600 series (check the readme for that pgm for exact models
>be appreciated (inexpensive). I'm thinking I may have to do scanning from
>DOS/windows for the time being.
This might the most inexpensive route, considering that s/w is often bundled
with what you buy. also for OCR, the Windows programs are a lot cheaper...
Hope it works out for you....Patrick Giagnocavo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: Does CANON 150 Portables work with NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1994Oct20.011934.5565@mixcom.com>
Keywords: Portables NEXTSTEP
Sender: news@mixcom.com (Net News Admin)
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milw, WI (414) 351-1139
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 01:19:34 GMT
Netland,
Is anyone using a portable with NEXTSTEP. I NEED to buy one of these things, and
I want to make sure that I get the right thing. NeXTanswers only lists the
Compact and NEC as the only two portables. This cannot be right.
Today I saw a nice CANON 150? portable. It had a faily nice display and while on
the hefty side, it may do the job. Does anyone know if this thing will run
NEXTSTEP?
What are good NEXTSTEP portables?
---
Alberto Ricart
SmartSoft, Inc.
2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: HP for NeXTStep.
Message-ID: <CxyBry.8wC@usa.net>
Sender: news@usa.net (News)
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 03:16:45 GMT
Do all HP Vectra Series Computers run (successfully) NeXTStep?
The NeXT Hardeware compatibility guidelins say that only the Vectra XP
will run NeXTStep perfectly. But I have noticed that most of the vectra
scsi and bus configs are the same.
thanks
ericd
From: chuck@primenet.com (Charles Greenidge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gecko...Intel...Cannon
Date: 20 Oct 1994 05:47:46 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3850a2$eho@news.primenet.com>
Hi, I was wanting to get another machine to run nextstep....
Which, runs it the best or fastest....
Price is also a concern what are the different prices for a decent
system??
Anyone know....
Thanx in advance....
Chuck
chuck@primenet.com
NextMail welcomed...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Re: hosed NS/i system, unexpected kernel traps
Message-ID: <rwyattCxxr6E.46q@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <4id_6Ba00WBNMCTEoW@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 19:51:49 GMT
In article <4id_6Ba00WBNMCTEoW@andrew.cmu.edu> Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>I've been having some difficulty lately with my white NS box. It started
>when my system froze during a 22MB FTP transfer. Since then my system
>has not booted without an error. Configuration: Adaptec 1542CF, PAS
>Basic, Intel EtherExpress16C, ATI GUP VLB 2MB, 486DX/33, 20MB RAM, 632MB
>HD, Serial Mouse. The system has worked fine for over a month. I also
>installed the MusicKit 4.01beta (I believe) as root since then and added
>the Ariel driver to my config although I don't own one. The drive
>wouldn't boot, so I saved my data on another drive and reformatted this
>one (a Seagate ST4766N); but during installation (the part where NS
>prepares your drive for installation) I get:
>
> unexpected kernel trap e eip 18f019
> memory access exception (1,1,c1fe9f88)
> waiting foir remote debugger connection.
> (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
>
>and the machine hangs (doesn't accept either 'c' or 'r'). Does anyone at
>Next have anything to say about this? It's very unexpected as I've been
>working flawlessly for over a month with this configuration. The only
>thing I can think about the memory access exception is that my system
>sometimes doesn't recognize my 1meg SIMMs and only registers 16MB RAM,
>but I doubt this is the problem as this problem is older than NS has
>been on my machine. One final note, the Seagate is pretty old I gather
>(two years) since I bought it used and it is rather large (the size of a
>new external gig including external case). Thanks for any help or advice.
>
>-Leo
>
>+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|>> Leo Turetsky <<|>> leo@uni.pc.cc.cmu.edu (NeXTMail Welcome) <<|
>| Carnegie-Mellon U. | Leo, your Mom called while you were in Ohio. |
>|-------------------esp---------------------------------------------|
>| "Did you get your 100% USRDA of vitamins A C L M R and T today?" |
>+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
While I won't venture to guess what is causing this nastiness for you, let
me say that I sympathize! :-) These kinds of problems are simply
inexcusable! And, from what I've seen on the net and heard from others, we
aren't the only ones dealing with this. NeXT really better get its act
together soon when it comes to drivers. Why buy NEXTSTEP if you are going
to fight your machine just to run it?! Enough ranting... :-)
I was getting kernal traps when I used Virtuoso. I also have a crappy
Adaptec card with a crappy NeXT driver. I also have a Pro-Audio Spectrum
and NeXT's driver. Disabling the sound card is the only solution that
allows me to use Virtuoso. This is ridiculous! I'd suggest you do the same,
but it sounds like you need audio...
Well, that's my two cents...
-Rob Wyatt
rob@bedazzled.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Speeding up black hardware: could this work???
Message-ID: <rwyattCxxrpB.Mzq@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 20:03:11 GMT
I recently read about a company that has released a product for Macs that
boosts CPU speed. The product is a little "clip" that attaches to the
motherboard's clock-crystal oscillator and makes the oscillator and CPU run
faster.
I know very little about the guts of black hardware, but is it possible this
could work for black hardware owners as well? How would I go about getting
more information? The company that makes the clip suggested I start with the
following questions:
* Is the black hardware oscillator a surface mount or through-hole?
* Is the oscillator tri-state?
* Size?
* Is the crystal the same kind as what Apple uses in the Centris
650, for example?
What could be the negative effects of such a product? Could the bus handle
the increased speed?
Any help, suggestions, or ideas appreciated!
Take care!
-Rob
rob@bedazzled.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: ZEOS Pantera (Pentium 90) -- Experiences
Message-ID: <1994Oct19.181725.1899@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 18:17:25 GMT
Has anyone used the machine above. If so, I would love to hear the goo,
bad, and ugly, and would love to learn of your configuration.
THanks
WEs
--
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The Weston Group |
8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: stephen@cci.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardrives for Black hardware...
Date: 20 Oct 1994 13:39:46 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <385rv3$cbm@news.tamu.edu>
References: <CxwIzn.CCA@msv.cc.iwate-u.ac.jp>
In article <CxwIzn.CCA@msv.cc.iwate-u.ac.jp> sakaino@ariel.edu.iwate-u.ac.jp
(Naoki Sakaino) writes:
> In article <Cxusz5.5sA@usa.net> bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes:
> >
> > What brand harddrives are supported for Black hardware? and how do you
> > format a new one?
> >
>
> Format your hard drive by Macintosh, and NeXT can initialize it.
> I've tried many drives from various vendors (Conner, Quantum, Seagate,
> Fujitsu, etc.) and all work without any problem so far.
>
I believe I have seen it where if the hd is formatted with the Mac, the NeXT
won't get the full size. The NeXT unix command to format is
/usr/etc/sdform /dev/rsd#a
where sd# is the disk name. Reboot and it prompts you to initialize.
Stephen Johnson
srjohnson@tamu.edu
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New power supply for NeXT 400dpi Printer
Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:11:03 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3864qn$qug@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I think that the power supply has gone on my NeXT laser printer, I
have checked the in-line fuse in the powers supply and that seems to
be OK. The fan never rotates and there is only power coming out of
one of the three (?) connector blocks coming out of the power supply.
SO has any-one got a NeXT printer that they are breaking from which I
could have the power supply, or where can I get a new power supply
from (somewhere in the UK preferably) and finally is there a standard
power supply that would work rather that having to buy a NeXT specific
one ?
Cheers Rupert.
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
From: chuck@primenet.com (Charles Greenidge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Monitor dying....
Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:43:32 GMT
Organization: Primenet
Message-ID: <3866nk$cf8@news.primenet.com>
Hi,
I have an old cube w/ a N4000 monitor that is starting to go
out... I heard that you can replace a card in the monitor and this will
fix it...... is this true????
Any suguestions??
Thanx in advance..
Chuck
chuck@primenet.com
NeXTMail welcomed....
From: doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: mac emulation
Date: 20 Oct 1994 15:19:50 GMT
Organization: RSMAS/University of Miami, Miami, FL
Message-ID: <3861qm$k78@umigw.miami.edu>
What are my options for running mac software on black hardware (040)?
Sometime ago I heard of a black box being developed. I haven't been
in touch with the news lately, and a brief perusal of this newsgroup
has not provided the info. Could someone out there give me the
name-address of the manufacturer, if one exists?
Thanks, I would appreciate the assistance.
Doug Stewart
doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Quix/Daydream phone numbers
Date: 20 Oct 1994 14:16:20 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <386c5k$moo@panix3.panix.com>
Daydream, the device that turns Black hardware into a Mac, and Quix are
still very much in business.
From the US and Canada, your best bet to contact them is through their
fax. Their internet connection is intermittent and not very good - and
costs them $1,000 per month for a 2400 baud dialup.
From the US and Canada, the phone numbers for Quix in Switzerland are
011 41 41 34 88 28 voice
011 41 41 34 86 80 fax
If you call their voice number, remember the time in Switzerland is six to
nine hours later.
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel success story
Date: 20 Oct 1994 18:14:19 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <386c1r$8bo@nntp1.u.washington.edu>
Hej,
I thought I'd pass along an Intel success story. Here's the system:
-Dell 590/XL 90MHz Pentium ($3274 @ Dell)
16MB RAM
256KB cache
540MB IDE hard disk
2 ISA slots, 1 ISA/PCI combo
2 serial, 1 parallel, 1MB on board PCI VGA graphics
Floppy, keyboard, MS mouse, DOS, Windoze
3 year warranty
-Adaptec 1540CF ISA SCSI adapter card ($195 @ Dell)
-Diamond Stealth 2MB VRAM PCI graphics card ($339 @ Dell)
-Nokia 447x 17in monitor ($1100 @ CompUSA)
-SyQuest 3.5in 270MB external removable SCSI disk drive w/ cartridge,
cables, etc. ($661 @ Peripheral Solutions)
My strategy was to get the DOS side working with all the hardware,
primarily to confirm that everything worked. Once that was done, I wanted
to copy the DOS system to a SyQuest drive, and then start the NEXTSTEP
installation. In a worst case, I could punt back to DOS w/out having to
install it from floppy.
I had 2 problems installing this system. The first was with the SyQuest
drive running under DOS. To make a long story short, the ASPI2DOS driver
that shipped with the SyQuest didn't work with the Adaptec 1540CF board.
I downloaded a new ASPI4DOS (note the diff: ASPI*2* v. ASPI*4*) driver
from the SyQuest BBS, loaded it, and everything worked fine. I copied DOS
off onto a SyQuest, and began the NS install.
The second problem I had was with the IDE disk drive. The installer
bombed when I tried to load NS onto the disk. (I was using a NeXT CD-ROM
for the install, BTW.) However, the NeXTanswers doc "1650_IDE_Issues"
identified the problem, and pointed to the solution. The doc suggested I
might be able to get the disk's full size with some CMOS configuration
tricks, but I could never get it to work. I finally had to change the
disk geometry to a "standard" 504MB IDE disk, and NS installed first time.
I lost some disk space, but I was jazzed.
Next came the video configuration. I'd ftp'ed the Diamond Stealth driver
from NeXTanswers, and I loaded it onto the system. I tried the high
res/high scan rate options of the Stealth driver first, but they didn't
work with my system. I got a video signal out of the card, but the
display was very screwed up: Lots of streaks across the screen, and
strange ghosting. So I tried the low res option 1024*768*16 at 75Hz, and
it worked fine. I think more VRAM would solve the high res problem, but
for now, 1024*768 is very nice!
The only lingering issue is with the mouse. It jumps either vertically or
horizontally to the edge of the screen at unpredictable times. It happens
on the order of once every several minutes of use. I haven't tracked down
this problem yet, and maybe tweaking the mouse config in Configure.app
will solve the problem. For now, it's an inconvenience I can live with.
Anyone with an answer to this problem?
This system is very fast! I manage a network of black systems, from cubes
to turbo colors, and the Dell is perceptively faster. Sorry, I don't have
benchmarks...but Xox really screams on the Dell. (Thanks again, Sam.
How's that NeXThead T-shirt holding out?)
It wasn't my intention to put together the cheapest system I could find.
I was more interested in reasonably priced name-brand hardware. Dell fit
the bill. And I personally think most PC hardware is butt-ugly. The Dell
XL line is a low-profile system, not much bigger than a slab, and it's not
bad to look at. Another point in it's favor. Now if I can just dig up
that post with the "Next Black" paint supplier....
If you're in the market for white hardware, I hope this helps make your
decision easier. I spent a month researching these options.
So far, sign me:
Very Satisfied.
bb
-----
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: wrap or jump scrolling in "console" window?
Message-ID: <CxzD4w.IoD@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: The Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 16:41:17 GMT
One major motivation for this question is the horrendously slow scrolling
you get with a ND board at boot time, but it also applies to the "console"
login to get a dumb terminal session. (Please overcome your disgust that
I would ever use a dumb terminal session.) I've played with the
ESC-[-r-##-;-##
sort of stuff that does helpful things on a Sun, but it doesn't seem to
do anything useful on the NeXT.
Thanks, Scott S. Bertilson
--
From: patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu (Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: memory upgrade
Date: 20 Oct 1994 18:47:07 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <386dvb$3i7@news.nd.edu>
In response to ny query about memory upgrade I got a lot of helpful advice.
I also got the following request to post them on the newsgroup. Here are some
of the responses I got.
>From: samschap@merle.acns.nwu.edu>Pathikrit,
>
>I also am looking to pump up the memory of my 040 NextStation (which
>currently only has 8 MB). Could you publicly post any pertinent follow-ups
>you get?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Sam Schapmann
>
>(just ASCII, please)
_______________________________________________________________________________
>Return-Path: <rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu>
>From: Rod Ragner >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 15:02:32 -0500
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>To: patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu (Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay)
>Subject: Re: memory upgrade on black hardware
>Reply-To: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu
>
>Pathikrit,
>
>I am new to NeXT and had similar questions.
>
>Similarly, I got conflicting answers, until I opened the computer and proved
>it to myself (you better do the same).
>
>The oldest NeXTcubes had 16 30-pin low-capacity SIMM slots and have to be
>changed 4 at a time. Older NeXT computers have 8 30-pin SIMM slots and have
>to be changed 4 at a time. Newer NeXT computers have 4 72-pin high-capacity
>SIMM slots and have to be changed 2 at a time.
>
>Open your machine. Count the number of slots. If there are only 4 SIMM
>slots, then you have to change 2 at a time, but if there are 8 or more, then
>you have to change 4 at a time.
>
>Nobody lied to you... They just may not have known exactly what age and
>type that your machine is...
>
>Best of luck!
>
>--
>Rod Ragner
>Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
>Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
>Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
>Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
>
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>Return-Path: <tim@dancingbear.com>
>From: Timothy Griswold >Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 19:09:58 -1000
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>To: patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu (Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay)
>Subject: Memory
>
>Pathikrit,
>You got a variety of right and wrong answers. The mono non-Turbo slabs have 8
>SIMM slots divided into 2 banks of 4. Therefore, you must install SIMMs in
>groups of 4. The maximum SIMM size they will accept is 4MB. Therefore, the max
>the slab will take is 32MB. In your case, you can remove 4 1MB SIMMs and
>install the 4 4MB SIMMs. The result would be a 20MB system. Note, there is an
>exception to these "facts." Some of the later mono, non-Turbo slabs have only
4
>slots. Actually they use a Turbo board with a 25mhz clock. Assuming you dont
>have one of these, the above rules apply.
>
>
>Now there are a couple ways you can reduce your cost. The 1MB SIMMs are the
>same as those used in some of the older Mac's, so you may be able to find a Ma
c
>head who will give you a few $ for them. I would suggest $20 to $25 each. If
>you can't find a Mac person, advertise them on the net. Same price should sell
>them easily. You can reduce your net costs further by removing all 8 1MB SIMMs
>and selling them. Your system would be a 16MB system and should preform quite
>nicely while you should pick up a minimum of $160 for your old SIMMs.
>
>
>As for price. We sell both new and used 4MB SIMMs. The new SIMMs run about $15
0
>(but change daily) the used SIMMs sell for $125 and we usually have them or ge
t
>some in regurlarly. If you bought 4 used = $500 and sold your 8 1MB's at $160
,
>you would net out $340. There is a bit of shipping/insurance, but that would
>put you close to your goal. We take all major credit cards so if you are cleve
r
>(timing your purchase/sale) you can let them be the bank with a few $ in
>interest charge.
>
>I have attached our catalog of NeXT items for your review. Let me know if we
>can help.
>
>Thanks
>Tim Griswold
>tim@dancingbear.com (NeXT MAIL Accepted)
>800-221-2217
>808-875-2455
>808-874-3650 fax
>For info on Dancing Bear's Products and services, or to obtain our current
>catalog, send an email message to:
> infoaccess@dancingbear.com with a subject of help, index, catalog
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Fall 1994 Catalog
>
>NEXTSTEP Systems, Peripherals,
>
>Software, Parts & Technical Books
>
>
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>808-875-2456 7 808-874-3650 fax 7 800-221-2217 (US)
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>Aloha!
>
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>Return-Path: <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org>
>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 23:22 EDT
>From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)>To: patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu
>Subject: Re: memory upgrade on black hardware
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
>References: <3813s2$s9g@news.nd.edu>
>
>
>Depends on the model of NeXTstation that you have. Most NeXTstations
>came with 8 SIMM slots that utilize 30 pin SIMMs and have to be
>installed in banks of 4. Later NeXTstations and all turbo models
>utilize 72 pin interleaved SIMMs that have to be installed in pairs.
>
>
>--
>Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
_______________________________________________________________________________
>From: Eric Fortune >Original-Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100)
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>To: patb <@midway.uchicago.edu:patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu>
>Subject: Re: memory upgrade on black hardware
>Reply-To: fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
>
>
>The answers you received are both correct, depending on your hardware.
>
>
>My NeXTstation has 8 simm slots, and the simms must be exchanged in
>
>sets of four. If this is you configuration, your next upgrade from
>8 megs will be to 20 megs by swapping in four 4 meg simms.
>
>Other stations have 4 slots. If this is your machine, you probably have
>two 4 megs simms and two empty slots.
>Anyhow, the definitive answers are available at
>
>http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/FAQ.html
>
>- eric fortune
>fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
>NeXTMail OK
>
>
>Here is a relevant excerpt from the FAQ.
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
>
>Number SIMM slots: 8
>SIMM group size: 4
>SIMM type: 30-pin
>SIMM access rating: 100 ns
>SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
>Maximum RAM: 32 MB
>
>Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any
>faster than the 100 ns units.
>
>
>
>NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
>
>
>Number SIMM slots: 8
>SIMM group size: 2
>SIMM type: 72-pin
>SIMM access rating: 80 ns
>SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
>Maximum RAM: 32 MB
>
>
>NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
>NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
>NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
>NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
>
>Number SIMM slots: 4
>SIMM group size: 2
>SIMM type: 72-pin
>SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
>SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
>Maximum RAM: 128 MB
>
>For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will
>be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns.
>
>
>NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
>into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine
>uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using
>the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with
>your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the
>message cTesting system...k disappears, press
>command-command-tilde (~ on the numeric keyboard). Under these
>circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
>type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards^Pincluding new 25 MHz
>NeXTstations and all Turbo systems^Pwill return messages reporting
>the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old
>25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
>8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70
>nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four
>sockets.
>
>
From: shunter@cais2.cais.com (Steve K Hunter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ZEOS Pantera (Pentium 90) -- Experiences
Date: 20 Oct 1994 20:55:51 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <386lgn$gtt@news.cais.com>
References: <1994Oct19.181725.1899@weston.com>
Wes,
I have a Zeos Pantera P90 PCI/ISA, it is great under M.S.
Windows, I have not been able to get NS3.2FIP loaded yet.
I have 16MB Ram, NEC 2x CD, a ProAudio Spectrum 16 SCSI/sound
card which I have been told will not work as a driver for the
CD under N.S so I got a hold of an Adeptec 1542cf. I also have
a Hayes 28.8 Internal Modem and the Diamond Stealth 64
video card with 4MB VRAM and a ViewSonic 17 monitor.
I installed the Adaptec card in the system and my floppy or
CD started making rumbling/crunching noises. I called Zeos
and they said it probably won't work so use the AMD on
board SCSI chip, it supports NeXT. I would love to use the on-board
chip becuase its about $90 and would solve my problem however
I don't believe it is supported (it was news to the support
folks at NeXT).
I believe NS has been loaded onto the Zeos 486's but I have not
heard of any successes with the Pentiums.
Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote:
: Has anyone used the machine above. If so, I would love to hear the goo,
: bad, and ugly, and would love to learn of your configuration.
: THanks
: WEs
: --
: Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
: The Weston Group |
: 8524 Highway 6 North, 162 | Voice (713) 827-2650
From: ambi@kaizen.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ZEOS Pantera (Pentium 90) -- Experiences
Date: 20 Oct 1994 22:32:18 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <386r5i$inc@news.bu.edu>
References: <386lgn$gtt@news.cais.com>
> Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote:
> : Has anyone used the machine above. If so, I would love to hear the goo,
> : bad, and ugly, and would love to learn of your configuration.
>
I've had NeXTSTEP 3.2 running flawlessly on my ZEOS Pantera P90 since
June/July. It took a little futzing with the onboard SCSI controller
and onboard floppy controller to get it to work. I've run it with the
onboard Adaptec 6360 SCSI chip and the Adaptec 1542CF card. I prefer the
card to the chip since it's faster and the onboard SCSI chip seems to
only work if you boot from a floppy.
Overall, I've been *extremely* pleased with it's performance and
reliabililty. I'm also a former cube and color station owner.
For reference, I have the following hardware:
Zeos Pantera P90 256K cache
Diamond Viper 2MB Video (I run it in 1152x900 @70 Hz)
ProAudio Spectrum 16 sounds card
Intel EtherExpress network card
Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card
Quantum Empire 1GB SCSI drive
24 MB memory
CTX monitor
Send me some email if you need any help getting one running or have any
more questions.
--
Mike Amirault
Kaizen Solutions, Inc.
ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
From: czyz@Eeyore.Stanford.EDU (Paul Czyzewski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will nextstep and linux run on this configuration ?
Date: 20 Oct 1994 21:41:25 GMT
Organization: .
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <386o65$m9n@Times.Stanford.EDU>
Keywords: nextstep linux pentium
I'm shopping for a system to run nextstep, linux, and windows, and am
wondering if the following would work:
-- Pentium 90 CPU
-- 32 Meg of memory
-- "Premier" motherboard (sold by NCA Computer Products in the
Silicon Valley. They claim it's made by Intel. Board itself doesn't
say, other than that it's made in Ireland. Magazine reviews seem
to love the "Intel 'Neptune' chipset." Anyone know how to identify
that? How about "Intel 'Plato' motherboard", which I've also seen
referenced?)
-- Nokia 447X 17" monitor
-- video card: either (1) Diamond Stealth 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg
or (2) Number 9 DXE Pro 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg.
(I've heard that the former may have some PCI-related problems. Also
wondering about Nextstep and Linux drivers (native or third-party)
for each of the above.)
-- SCSI controller: Adeptek 2940. Next is supposed to support
this in 3.3. Any word on whether Linux does, or predictions on how
long it will take?
-- SCSI CD-ROM: probably 2x? Are there big advantages to 3X or
4X (I'm not a game-player)?
-- SCSI hard disk: possibly IBM 1.0GB Fast SCSI-II
-- floppy drive, keyboard, mouse.
I'd appreciate advice, especially regarding the motherboard and the drivers
for the video card(s) and SCSI controller.
Also, any reccomendations re postscript printers and scanners would
be appreciated (inexpensive). I'm thinking I may have to do scanning from
DOS/windows for the time being.
Thanks
Paul Czyzewski 415-328-3407 czyz@eeyore.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eric@sfu.ca (Eric Kolotyluk)
Subject: MC68060, So what's the poop?
Message-ID: <1994Oct20.215700.29870@cs.sfu.ca>
Sender: news@cs.sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, School of Computing Science
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 21:57:00 GMT
I've heard rumors from a number of places now that someone is working on a
MC68060 upgrade board for black hardware. Anyone know anything tangible
about this?
From: jtodd@ss1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Move NeXT color monitor 6" from CPU
Date: 20 Oct 1994 23:31:35 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <386ukn$74b@news1.digex.net>
Summary: I've got an extention cable for NeXT color monitors
Keywords: NeXT, Sun, 13W3
If you've got a NeXT Color machine of some type, you're probably just as
irritated as I am about the 2' cable that NeXT gives you to go from the CPU
to the soundbox/monitor. I want to move my Station away from the monitor
and keyboard, because I only have so much desk space to sacrifice and the
CPU/disks/CD/scanner/modem/power cords/ISDN gear can all go SOMEWHERE ELSE
if one had an "extender" for this short cable.
Well, obviously, I have one. Actually, I don't have one, but I'm ordering
two. I fould a little company that had two on hand, and the only way that
they would sell them to me was if I bought both. It's 13w3 male on one end,
13w3 female on the other and is six feet in length. I'll sell the other one
that I have at cost, which is $85 + s/h. Anyone interested?
PS: Sorry for the crosspost, but I figured this would well apply to both
groups.
--
John Todd - Field Sales/Technical Entropy Supervisor - jtodd@digex.net
Digital Express Internet Providers - 1-800-969-9090 x307 = sales info
From: harrison@clark.net (Harrison Consulting)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP
Date: 21 Oct 1994 00:24:45 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3871od$c7u@clarknet.clark.net>
References: <9410192112.AA04274@mnp.next.com> <384eb7$efd@network.ucsd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I think that NeXT will not be supporting multiple processors any time
soon. They worked on the idea with the Brick, but since that was shelved
they have been putting their efforts into other things, one of them being
ports. From what I have been told, I will not see the Sparc version of
NS handling multiple processors, however easy or hard it may be. I wish
this were not so, but I have been told this news and am saddened.
Scott
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ensoniq SoundScape Supported?
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 16:42:05 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <godwin.371.01E1756A@unixg.ubc.ca>
Just saw the BCOG annoucement and the name esoniq corp came up...so I was
wondering is Ensoniq's OPL-4 soundcard ie Soundscape supported or will be
supported in 3.3? PAS really suck SB16 too when compared with any OPL-4
soundcard thanks for the info!=)
Godwin
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NWBench score--715/33 32/1000 8-bit 1280 x 1024
Date: 20 Oct 1994 19:36:01 -0600
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3875u1$j6o@xmission.xmission.com>
Benchmark program should be run as root for additional info.
MIPS: 29.035555
PostScript speed: D-V: 5.056 V-V: 9.632
Ethernet speed: 0.520262
Webster benchmark: 41.517319
Compile: 99.971748
If Paul wants to run this as root on this machine, we could get SCSI
performance. Email pmarc@allanon.math.byu.edu to put pressure on him
to do so.
.........................kris
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
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organism that invades and damages the central nervous system."
From: czyz@Eeyore.Stanford.EDU (Paul Czyzewski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will Linux & NextStep run on this config?
Date: 21 Oct 1994 01:06:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38745u$pq8@Times.Stanford.EDU>
I'm shopping for a system to run nextstep, linux, and windows, and am
wondering if the following would work:
-- Pentium 90 CPU
-- 32 Meg of memory
-- "Premier" motherboard (sold by NCA Computer Products in the
Silicon Valley. They claim it's made by Intel. Board itself doesn't
say, other than that it's made in Ireland. Magazine reviews seem
to love the "Intel 'Neptune' chipset." Anyone know how to identify
that? How about "Intel 'Plato' motherboard", which I've also seen
referenced?)
-- Nokia 447X 17" monitor
-- video card: either (1) Diamond Stealth 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg
or (2) Number 9 DXE Pro 64 (s3964) for PCI, 4Meg.
(I've heard that the former may have some PCI-related problems. Also
wondering about Nextstep and Linux drivers (native or third-party)
for each of the above.)
-- SCSI controller: Adeptek 2940. Next is supposed to support
this in 3.3. Any word on whether Linux does, or predictions on how
long it will take?
-- SCSI CD-ROM: probably 2x? Are there big advantages to 3X or
4X (I'm not a game-player)?
-- SCSI hard disk: possibly IBM 1.0GB Fast SCSI-II
-- floppy drive, keyboard, mouse.
I'd appreciate advice, especially regarding the motherboard and the drivers
for the video card(s) and SCSI controller.
Also, any reccomendations re postscript printers and scanners would
be appreciated (inexpensive). I'm thinking I may have to do scanning from
DOS/windows for the time being.
Thanks
Paul Czyzewski 415-328-3407 czyz@eeyore.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: WoolveSR.ctrvax.Vanderbilt.edu (Stephen)
Subject: where's the FAQ
Message-ID: <WoolveSR.ctrvax.Vanderbilt.edu-201094212755@remote7.vanderbilt.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: Vanderbilt
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 02:21:26 GMT
where's the FAQ?
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: mac emulation
Date: 21 Oct 1994 02:15:53 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Message-ID: <38788p$3nb@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
References: <3861qm$k78@umigw.miami.edu>
In article <3861qm$k78@umigw.miami.edu> doug@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu writes:
> What are my options for running mac software on black hardware (040)?
> Sometime ago I heard of a black box being developed. I haven't been
> in touch with the news lately, and a brief perusal of this newsgroup
> has not provided the info. Could someone out there give me the
> name-address of the manufacturer, if one exists?
> Thanks, I would appreciate the assistance.
>
There is a software-only emulator called Executor on some of the major
FTP sites. I haven't tried the NeXT version, but the DOS version was
pretty good when I took it for a spin.
Peter
From: toejam@u.washington.edu (Troy Sandal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP! Extended SCSI Test Failure
Date: 21 Oct 1994 03:47:42 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <387dku$bpp@nntp1.u.washington.edu>
Summary: Cannot boot from optical drive
Keywords: NEXT SCSI BLACK
I recently bought an old 030 board and assorted parts and am trying to
get it up and running. I have everything I need (I think) but I am
having problems getting the optical drives running. Whenever I boot
the machiene it performs the various tests and when it gets to the
extended SCSI test it fail and throws an error 65, which translates to:
"Cannot load counter with test pattern." Does anyone have any clues?
I have two drives and have tried them both with the same results. I have
gone through various ROM commands without much luck. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Slowly turning a sack o' parts into a cube...
TDS
From: stalker@coyote.rain.org (Milan Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Wingine machine.
Date: 20 Oct 1994 20:55:41 -0700
Organization: RAIN Network
Message-ID: <387e3t$he9@coyote.rain.org>
Subject: Wingine machine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Summary:
Keywords:
Well I do not know what NEC has planned for the machine you spoke
of, but I do not think Mike Duggan will be making any comments as he no
longer works for NEC. I would be interested to know if anyone knows of
someone else who is familiar with nextstep at NEC, because Mike helped me in
the past, but apparently he was the only employee who had any knowledge
of nextstep. Does this mean NEC is no longer supporting nextstep? I would
be interested to here any opinions, particularly from someone at NEC.
Milan Cole
stalker@rain.org
From: hacker@access4.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: My cube won't even TRY to boot!
Date: 21 Oct 1994 00:55:25 -0400
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <387hjt$35h@access4.digex.net>
I'm afraid I may have shut my '040 cube down without using the
Workspace Manager's "Turn It Off" panel. I try to reboot it and...
nothing happens. The external hard disk seems to seek when I hit the
power button but then nothing happens. The display doesn't display the
monitor, "reading system" or anything. I have an internal drive and
the cube makes no attempt to boot from that either. CMD-CMD-~ does
nothing.
I'm afraid that I may have crashed the disk but it's odd that the
megapizel display doesn't even come on.
Do I need to just let this thing sit and reboot after it's PROMs have
had time to rest or something? Is there some magic to forcing next
to boot off a disk... or have I really f***ed myself over?
I'm afraid I don't have time for extensive analysis as I have a
project on that machine that's due very soon.
- Hacker
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From: tyldesla@cuug.ab.ca (Andrew Tyldesley 250-1037)
Subject: Q: modems and software for NeXT black
Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca
Message-ID: <Cy021n.Ju1@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 01:41:46 GMT
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Followup-To: andtyl@autotrol.cuc.ab.ca
I am a little (lot?) out of touch with the NeXT related
events/products and would like to get some advise on
data/fax modems for my NeXTstation.
1. What make models of 14.4 or faster data/fax modems work
well with the next. I will be using it to send/receive
faxes, UUCP, and, in the near future, SLIP/PPP. Prices
and suppliers, if handy, would be appreciated.
2. What software do you recommend for fax, SLIP/PPP.
3. I am hoping do set this all up over my 1 and only phone
line at home. Can any of the NeXT compatible modems
detect if a call is data/fax or voice and act appropriately
ie. If it is a voice call not answer the phone. I thought
I had heard something about this but don't see how a modem
could detect a non-data/fax call without answering.
4. Is there any answering machine software out there?
Please reply to: andtyl@autotrol.cuc.ab.ca
I don't have much chance to read news, at least until I get a
UUCP feed setup, which, of course, is dependent on the answers
to the above questions :-)
Thanks alot.
Andrew Tyldesley andtyl@autotrol.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail OK)
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <847@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: 20 Oct 94 19:06:24 GMT
References: <9410192112.AA04274@mnp.next.com>
Sender: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl
Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
In article <9410192112.AA04274@mnp.next.com> mnp!mpaque@NeXT.COM (Mike
Paquette) writes:
> Watching the recent thread of discussion "Re: Dual Pentium and
> NeXTStep?" is rather like watching a game of telephone, with
> information mutating from one message to the next. I can't stand it
> anymore...
Yeah, you'll think writing it down would clarify ... Oh well :-)
> Here's some real information, from press releases, speeches by
> assorted officers of NeXT, and whatnot. Nothing here that can't be
> found out by anyone willing to do a little research.
> 1) The NEXTSTEP Mach kernel is based on Mach 2.0, with a number of
> enhancements picked up from Mach 2.5. The Mach kernel in NEXTSTEP
> 3.3 will incorporate additional enhancements from Mach 3.0,
> particularly in the areas of scheduling and messaging.
Hmm, you almost make me want to spent money on it ...
> 2) The Mach kernel is designed to work in a symmetric multiprocessor
> environment. There are two areas that need to be addressed to
> implement SMP support (along with several hundred details...).
I tried to bring this across, but apparently failed to do so.
> First, the kernel must be compiled for use with multiple processors.
> This causes mutex locks to be compiled into the kernel to serialize
> access to critical sections. That's the easy part.
Indeed:
#define NCPUS 2 /* Or anything else > 1 */
> Second, the machine-dependent code needed to manage multiprocessor
> initialization, resource management, thread migration, and whatnot
> needs to be written. There is a C language API in the Mach kernel
> that covers most of the machine dependencies.
That's what you get from reading the (available) source - it also hides
the complexities :-)
> In the case of the Intel platforms, this gets tricky, as there are
> now FOUR different specifications kicking around for SMP board
> design. There are two versions of the Intel-led SMP consortium's
> spec, another multi-vendor spec, and even a spec from a consortium of
> chip set manufacturers. Three of these specifications have actually
> been implemented in hardware to varying degrees.
Yeah, to paraphrase Andrew Tanenbaum:
The nice thing about open specifications is, that there are so many to
choose from ...
> 3) The AppKit is not thread-safe (not even on the old m88k and 601
> SMP prototype hardware Mr. Jobs and others have mentioned). Oh, it's
> been thought about, but fundamentally the AppKit is an inappropriate
> candidate for multithreaded operation. The degree of interlocking
> required would effectively serialize the entire kit, with no
> performance gain (in fact, a net loss!) over the current kit. Think
> of the AppKit as a set of tools used to manipulate the global state
> of a GUI, and you may see what I mean.
Scott Byer and Duane Takamine have beaten me to doubt :-) on this one
already in a thread on c.s.n.a. recently - I'm convinced.
> In general, I think a developer's time and energy would be better
> spent decoupling the application's GUI and core functionality,
> permitting the GUI to run in one thread, and the core functionality
> to run in one or more other threads (or even on a fast back-end
> processor through PDO).
You're right - it's simply that having SMP in the OS kernel is such a neat
idea really. It's sooo much fun working in an operating system where you
know that everything shared you look at from your thread could be
manhandled in a split microsecond - and finding the minimum amount of
locking necessary to get the job done :-)
Well, the times when system programmers got the time from their bosses to
do this kind of nitty-gritty work probably have gone - Aaahhh, t-t-talking
'bout my g-g-generation ...
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From: foxm@benji.Colorado.EDU (Mike Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cleaning the keyboard
Date: 21 Oct 1994 06:41:40 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Message-ID: <387nr4$nao@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
Keywords: motorola keyboard clean
I've had my cube for a few years now and the keyboard is in need of a
good cleaning. Other than the plethora of lint, the keys are
increasingly harder to push and some are now sticking. Before I start to
pry keys off or take the board apart, I wanted to know if anybody had
successfully done this. Can the sticking problem be cleared up with a
lurbicant that won't eat away the keys?
Mike
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 GXE 64 Pro 4 meg problem
Date: 21 Oct 1994 07:16:46 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <387psu$5u0@news.onramp.net>
References: <1994Oct19.161417.10825@bozell.com>
In article <1994Oct19.161417.10825@bozell.com> jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com
(Jeff Martin) writes:
> We have 4 machines with #9 GXE64Pro 4meg cards. Two of them work fine at
> all resolutions. Two of them produce multiple images (some sort of wrap
> around effect) at resolutions over 1024x768. Any ideas?
We have had this exact same problem on several machines. My idea so far
is that there are two slightly different RAMDAC's shipped on these cards
and one is supported by the NS driver and the other is not. If anyone has
any other info about this please post! Thank You,
--
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DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: hosed NS/i system, unexpected kernel traps
Date: 21 Oct 1994 07:22:01 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <387q6p$61s@news.onramp.net>
References: <rwyattCxxr6E.46q@netcom.com>
In article <rwyattCxxr6E.46q@netcom.com> rwyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
writes:
> In article <4id_6Ba00WBNMCTEoW@andrew.cmu.edu> Leo L Turetsky
<professor+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> >I've been having some difficulty lately with my white NS box. It >
> While I won't venture to guess what is causing this nastiness for you,
let
> me say that I sympathize! :-) These kinds of problems are simply
> inexcusable! And, from what I've seen on the net and heard from others,
I'm just curious if both of you guys have installed the PAS driver fix,
and if so, did it make any difference with respect to this problem?
(if you have not installed the fix, please e-mail me and I'll send it to
you)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: NS/HP and EISA: WHEN?
Message-ID: <1994Oct21.083508.18500@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 08:35:08 GMT
Hi,
what's about the EISA bus? We are desperately waiting for support of the
Parallax video board!!
Robert.
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From: teeleh@xs4all.nl (teeleh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 21 Oct 1994 09:26:36 GMT
Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <3881gc$q5d@news.xs4all.nl>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
The new pentium motherboards (Premiere II/PCI) have enhanced IDE circuitry
onboard. In combination with a Western Digital Enhanced IDE Drive this should
be quite something. Has anybody tried this and are there any enhanced IDE
drivers available to take these chips to the max ?
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ensoniq SoundScape Supported?
Date: 21 Oct 1994 12:07:08 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <388atc$9d5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <godwin.371.01E1756A@unixg.ubc.ca>
Godwin (godwin@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Just saw the BCOG annoucement and the name esoniq corp came up...so I was
: wondering is Ensoniq's OPL-4 soundcard ie Soundscape supported or will be
: supported in 3.3? PAS really suck SB16 too when compared with any OPL-4
: soundcard thanks for the info!=)
: Godwin
As far as I know the Ensoniq Soundscape has no OPL-4 but is based
(therefore the name ;-) on Ensoniq's Soundscape technology, specifically
the OTTO chipset. I have a V7/Spea media fx 16, which is an OEM version of
the Soundscape card, and there's no OPL-x on it (that's why SB emulation
is poor ;-).
With 'supported in 3.3' you certainly mean SoundKit drivers. SoundKit is
just for recording and playback of samples ('sound', .snd), but not for
'music' ('synthesizer', MIDI). That's were the MusicKit gets in (available
from cmn14.Stanford.EDU:/pub/NeXT).
I think the OPL-4 (as the OTTO) is in fact just a synthesizer chip
(FM+wavetable), and is not used for 'sound', but for 'music' (correct me
if I'm wrong).
SoundKit compatibility more depends on the CODEC chip used on the card
(apart from initialization and so on). There are e.g. various cards with
OPL-3, OPL-4 or Mozart chips that are MS Sound System compatible and
indeed work with NEXTSTEPs MSWSS driver. As WSS is mainly an AD1848
CODEC, I assume that each of those cards has an AD1848 compatible CODEC
on it.
My Spea/V7 also has an AD1848 clone on it, and I expect the Soundscape has
also, but my card doesn't claim MSWSS compatibility. NeXT's MSWSS driver
recognizes a MSWSS if my card is installed, but is not able to do any
playback. Linux' sounddriver exhibits that DMA transfers just aren't
initiated, so the CODEC can be programmed, but gets no data.
Since the card does 16bit playback with windows, I'm sure it's a problem
with initialization. Perhaps the card needs additional code so that the
DMA channels are really enabled.
So if Ensoniq and NeXT would only try, it should be no big work to get
the card running with SoundKit. I assume they won't do it :-(
By the way, the Ensoniq works nicely with the MusicKit, since it is
MPU-401 compatible (a MIDI interface standard). Now I'd like to get the
cheap MSWSS clone out of my computer ;-)
Gregor
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: MC68060, So what's the poop?
Message-ID: <1994Oct21.113916.19402@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: XO informatique - Paris, France.
References: <1994Oct20.215700.29870@cs.sfu.ca>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:39:16 GMT
In article <1994Oct20.215700.29870@cs.sfu.ca> eric@sfu.ca (Eric Kolotyluk)
writes:
> I've heard rumors from a number of places now that someone is working on
a
> MC68060 upgrade board for black hardware. Anyone know anything tangible
> about this?
I got the 68060 socket adaptor along with the MC68060SP (emulation
software package)!
I am waiting for the 68060 chip, MOTO does not want to give their current
version (too buggy); but they told me that I could get one asap when the
new chip mask is out.
FYI, here the list of integer instruction missing which have to be
emulated by software.
CAS compare and swap operands
CAS2 compare and swap dual operands
CHK2 check register against upper and lower bounds
CMP2 compare register against upper and lower bounds
DIVS signed short divide
DIVU unsigned short divide
I hope that the rom and the boot loader dont use the instructions above.
Cheers
Fabien
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From: john@beta.success.net (John Banghart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NE2000 Driveer
Date: 21 Oct 1994 14:26:45 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <388j35$ffk@uuneo.neosoft.com>
Coule someone please send me, or point me to a NE2000 driver?
Thanks.
-John
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cleaning the keyboard
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 10:41:10 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <sidxA6O00iV1E2oWFP@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <387nr4$nao@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 21-Oct-94 Cleaning the
keyboard by Mike Fox@benji.Colorado.
> Before I start to pry keys off or take the board apart, I wanted to know if
> anybody had successfully done this. Can the sticking problem be cleared up
> with a lurbicant that won't eat away the keys?
Try an electrical contact cleaner....they work pretty well, and they
shouldn't damage anything except maybe the rubber gasket on the keyboard
(so remove it before experimenting),
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
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From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Please help: Video cards for NSFIP
Date: 21 Oct 1994 17:05:26 +0100
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <388os6$g96@turner.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi and thanks to all of you who have mailed me in response to my previous
post. I have now found a cheap Diamond Stealth 64 card, but there is a
catch: It only has 1MB of DRAM, with sockets for another 1MB of VRAM.
Is it worth putting this card in instead of my ATI GUP mach32 based card
with 2MB of VRAM. Is the performance gained by the 64-bit gfx coprocessor
large enough to offset the performance lost by having DRAM rather than
VRAM?? I like NS running at 1024x768@72 Hz. Can I do 16-bit colour with
only 1MB of video memory at this res(I doubt it, but I don't know)?
Will I see any noticable difference with Window dragging, bitmap filling,
and general screen performance under NS??
Is the Stealth64 better than a ViperP9000?
My system is a VL Bus P-60 with 24MB of RAM.
Thanks for your help,
Eren Kotan eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk
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From: hauser@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Hauser Andreas)
Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations
Message-ID: <1994Oct21.171827.5172@ifi.unizh.ch>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
References: <38238n$4jo@News1.mcs.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 17:18:27 GMT
Tom Meyer (tmeyer@mcs.com) wrote:
: I'd like to get opinions/recommendations on laser printers and sound cards
: for my Intel machine. I've looked at the HP 4L and 4M (I think that's the
: models, one's 300 dpi and one's 600 dpi) and will probably lean that way
: unless I hear horror stories.
Take a look at the Texas Instruments Postscript Printers. MicroLaser ...
Their output is much better than the HP's and they are about in the same
price range. (Be sure to take a PS printer, though).
Andreas
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From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Harddisk optimization
Message-ID: <Cy0t49.GB@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:26:33 GMT
Hi,
could someone please mail me the message about optimizing the
HD-performance by setting the rotation speed? Because of some
problems at my newspoll I have missed it.
Thanks, Michael
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 21 Oct 1994 14:17:01 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3890it$e9i@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <3881gc$q5d@news.xs4all.nl>
teeleh (teeleh@xs4all.nl) wrote:
: The new pentium motherboards (Premiere II/PCI) have enhanced IDE circuitry
: onboard. In combination with a Western Digital Enhanced IDE Drive this should
: be quite something. Has anybody tried this and are there any enhanced IDE
: drivers available to take these chips to the max ?
At this time, NeXTSTEP cannot take advantage of Enhanced IDE. Using an
Enhanced IDE HD requires formatting down to 504MB, regardless of the drive's
size (and this may not always work).
- Jay
NeXTmail...Yes!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@prim.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium and NeXTStep?
Message-ID: <1994Oct20.181754.1467@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Kimble Consultancy Services Ltd.
References: <37sesa$na4@network.ucsd.edu> <845@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:17:54 GMT
In article <845@moene.indiv.nluug.nl> toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene) writes:
>In article <37sesa$na4@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
>writes:
>> Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
>> : NeXTSTEP 3.2 does not have SMP support, nor will 3.3 (as far as I can
>> : tell).
>
>Are you sure ? How did they demolish the inherit SMP design of Mach then ?
>(assuming that Mach 2.5 looks the same from this perspective as Mach 3.0,
>of which the sources, as issued from CMU, dated February 1991, rest on my
>shelf just right here).
... but your sources are dated 1991 and therein lies the problem.
I believe NeXT is derived from Mach 2.0 (of a much earlier '86 vintage
where SMP is missing.
2.5 does support SMP (OSF/1.1 for example). This support is in the hardware
independent layer of Mach (vm for example). Porting Mach gives you SMP for
free - just write your own locks and add a pmap layer and kernel drivers.
David
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q] Pros/cons: Diamond Stealth v. #9, Nokia v. Sony, NCR v. Adaptec
Date: 21 Oct 1994 18:47:45 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3892ch$sab@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I'm getting ready to buy a system, and I'm considering the following
configuration:
Intel Premiere II P54C-90 Motherboard
32 MB RAM, 1 GB disk (Quantum?)
NCR PCI SCSI II Controller, Talus driver
#9 GXE64 Pro video card, 4 MB VRAM
Nokia 17" monitor
1.44 MB floppy
NEC 2x SCSI CD-ROM
? Soundcard supported by MusicKit:
(Ariel PC56D, i*link i56, Turtle Beach Multisound)
Microsoft 2.0 serial mouse
Any comments?
I'm wondering about some alternatives:
1. Nokia v. Sony 17SE1 v. Idek?
2. #9 video v. Diamond Stealth v. Weitek P9100 Power-Graphics (JCIS)?
3. I'm clueless about sound cards.
4. NCR v. Adaptec?
Also: would this system allow me to run SLIP reliably? I've heard
something about SLIP not liking serial mice.
Thanks,
David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cache size for NS/FIP on P/90?
Date: 21 Oct 1994 18:56:04 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3892s4$sjt@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Is a 256K external processor cache enough for a 90 MHz Pentium
running NS/FIP? Does having 512K make much difference?
I see few systems listed with 512K, so I'm assuming that 256 is
adequate. I assume that 512K is better, but is it significantly
better?
Thanks,
David Finton
From: chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu (Chris Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Plato P90 and NeXTSTEP - problems!
Date: 21 Oct 1994 19:18:32 GMT
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <389468$apa@www.geo.cornell.edu>
If anyone can help me solve the following problem I would be ETERNALLY
grateful.
I have an Intel Premier II "Plato" P90/PCI motherboard (rev 10 BIOS),
a NCR 825 PCI SCSI card (with its own BIOS onboard), a #9 GXE 64 Pro
4 MB VRAM video card, and 32 megs of RAM (2 16 meg SIMMS).
I have suceeded in installing DOS on this system and getting it to
recognize/use all of the attached SCSI devices using the DOSCAM.SYS
drivers provided with the NCR controller. (However, it was necessary
to load the DOSCAM.SYS drivers BEFORE loading the QEMM/386EMM drivers!)
I have had absolutely NO luck getting NeXTSTEP running on this system
though. In every case described below NeXTSTEP starts to boot,
displays messages that it is reading the appropriate config/Default0
tables, displays messages that it is loading the appropriate device
drivers, and then displays "Starting NeXTSTEP..." in the diagnostic
output and hangs there forever with no error messages, no disk
activity, nothing.
Initially I suspected that this might be one of the BIOS revision
problems I remember reading about. I have tried Plato BIOS levels
6, 8 and 10 - all behave exactly the same.
I suspected that it might be a conflict with the NCR controller. A
call to Intel tech support indicated that there might be a conflict
between the PCI SCSI cards on-board BIOS and the BIOS support built
into the Plato BIOS. So I pulled the NCR SCSI card and attempted to
boot from an IDE drive with a NS boot partition on it that I had
lying around. I tried with the IDE card attached to the Plato's
onboard PCI IDE controller, the Plato's onboard ISA IDE controller,
and an IDE controller on a separate ISA card. All failed in
exactly the same way - hanging after the "Starting NeXTSTEP" message.
(The IDE boot partition was configured to look for a DPT 2122 SCSI
controller though, which it wouldn't find in this system obviously.
Don't know if that's relevant.)
Well then I figured I would try a virgin install from my 3.2 floppy/
CD-ROM distribution. The boot from floppy hung in exactly the same
place, both with and without the NCR SCSI card installed. Grrrr...
All of the above makes me think that it's not the NCR SCSI card
causing the problem. Perhaps its the #9 GXE card... I pull the #9
card and try booting it headless/blind. I can't tell for sure
since I don't have a display but it sounds like the boot process
is hanging in exactly the same place.
If its not the NCR card or the #9 card that leaves only the motherboard,
the procesor or the memory as candidates. Memory (2 16 MB 4x36 70ns
SIMMs) was working fine in another system just yesterday but for the
heck of it I tried rearranging the SIMMs - no change. I played with
almost every BIOS setting in 3 different revisions (6, 8, 10) that
looked even remotely relevant - none of the settings seemed to make any
difference.
To summarize: NeXTSTEP 3.2 is consistently hanging after loading
device drivers and printing the "Starting NeXTSTEP" message on my
Plato P90 based system no matter what BIOS revision or boot devices
I use. DOS is (as far as I can tell) working fine on the same
hardware. If anyone has any insight into what might be going on,
further troubleshooting suggestions, or an indication of exactly
what SHOULD happen next on a PCI system following the "Starting
NeXTSTEP" message please post AND e-mail me at
chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu. (E-mail is important because my
news reading abilities are severely curtailed until I can get
NeXTSTEP up and running again.)
The folks at both Talus and Intel have both been really great about
working with me on this problem but neither have been able to help.
Thanks!
- Chris
The folks at Talus and Intel have both beenr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Cleaning the keyboard
Message-ID: <1994Oct21.192234.752@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <sidxA6O00iV1E2oWFP@andrew.cmu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 19:22:34 GMT
In article <sidxA6O00iV1E2oWFP@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 21-Oct-94 Cleaning the
> keyboard by Mike Fox@benji.Colorado.
> > Before I start to pry keys off or take the board apart, I wanted to
know if
> > anybody had successfully done this. Can the sticking problem be
cleared up
> > with a lurbicant that won't eat away the keys?
>
> Try an electrical contact cleaner....they work pretty well, and they
> shouldn't damage anything except maybe the rubber gasket on the keyboard
> (so remove it before experimenting),
I missed the first part of this so I may be way off.
I've dumped beer in my keyboard a couple of times (actually an alien did it
because I surely wouldn't drink and drive on the information highway).
This tends to cause all the keys to bind up, a bunch. The easiest way to
clean it is to take apart the keyboard (unscrewing the back) and run it
under the kitchen sink. I usually use warm water and just flood the thing
with a heavy stream. Then I stand it on end and let it dry over night.
(Actually, I usually wave it around a little first to get some of the water
off). Electronics are water tight so that isn't a problem. You just need
to let the thing get good and dry before plugging it back in.
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which Toner Cartridge for NeXT Printer? ("EP-S" not specific enough)
Date: 21 Oct 1994 20:59:32 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <389a3k$2b4@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I walked into the EE store at Stanford yesterday to purchase a
replacement EP-S type toner cartridge for my NeXT printer. The
NeXT user manual says to purchase an "EP-S" type cartridge (indicating
that it is a standard type made by HP). But none of the HP printers
sold in the store indicated that they were "EP-S"; instead, I saw the
following model numbers: 92274A, 92275A, 92285A, 92291A, and 92295A.
Does anyone know which of these HP toner cartridge models will fit
into the NeXT printer?
Thank you. (I checked the FAQs, but it wasn't specific either---will
only one HP model work in the LaserJet III?).
Ed
From: diaz@me.msu.edu (Alejandro Diaz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: LaserWriter Select 360 printing problem
Date: 21 Oct 1994 22:33:20 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <389fjg$iq0@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Keywords: LaserWriter Select 360 printing problem
I am having trouble printing with my brand new Apple
LaserWriter Select 360 connected to a NeXTstation Turbo (NS 3.2).
I think I have the communications working OK. The problem
seems to be in the Postscript commands. Basically, printing
of text via lpr or of Postcript files created by enscript
works fine but printing from Next applications (Edit, Mma, ...) fails.
I have added below more information on what I know so far.
A would very much appreciate any help. Thanks in advance
Alejandro
(please respond to diaz@me.msu.edu)
____________________________________________________________________
1. Printing plain text via
lpr -PLaserWriter360 boring.txt
works OK
2. Printing text via enscript via
enscript -PLaserWriter360 boring.txt
works OK
3. Printing the same text file using Edit fails. File is
spooled correctly but it fails to print. The message
"Due to a Postcript l;anguage error, some or all of the pages
in your print request couldn't be printed"
appears.
4. Printing files from other NeXT applications (Mail, Mathematica,
Create, ImageViewer) also fails. Same message appears.
5. Printing Postcript files created in a Macintosh but printed
in the NeXT via Preview succeeds.
6. All Postcript files created by the Next applications start with
%!PS-Adobe-2.0
and use
% NeXT Printing Package
% Version: 3.1
(in file /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps)
These are the files that *fail* to print.
Files created by enscript or by the Mac begin with %!PS-Adobe-3.0
and do not use /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps.
These are the files that print *successfully*.
7. The ppd files that came with the printer were put in the
PrinterDescription directories and are being accessed OK by the Next
Print Manager.
8. Printer NetInfo description was created with PrintManager.
9. Communication: via serial port at 38400 baud with hardware
control. The cable is as described in the NeXT documentation.
On the printer side, mode is Postcript and protocol is TBCP (?).
Thanks for your help !!
A.
____________________________________________________________________
Prof. Alejandro Diaz diaz@me.msu.edu
Mechanical Engineering
Michigan State University
East Lansing MI 48824 USA
From: "spiegel@scz.ssi1.com" <146.252.53.116>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Driver for embeded AMD controller on COMPAQ XL560?
Date: 22 Oct 1994 00:16:47 GMT
Organization: Silicon Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <389llf$ekh@sunrise.gv.ssi1.com>
Does anyone know about anybody making a Driver for COMPAQ XL 560
which has an embedded SCSI controller made by AMD on a PCI board?
I have the software ready to load, but can't load it because I have
no driver.
Thanks, Dave.
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MC68060, So what's the poop?
Date: 22 Oct 1994 00:26:38 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Message-ID: <389m7u$qvb@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
References: <1994Oct21.113916.19402@free.fdn.org>
In article <1994Oct21.113916.19402@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien
Roy) writes:
> In article <1994Oct20.215700.29870@cs.sfu.ca> eric@sfu.ca (Eric Kolotyluk)
> writes:
> > I've heard rumors from a number of places now that someone is working on
> a
> > MC68060 upgrade board for black hardware. Anyone know anything tangible
> > about this?
> I got the 68060 socket adaptor along with the MC68060SP (emulation
> software package)!
> I am waiting for the 68060 chip, MOTO does not want to give their current
> version (too buggy); but they told me that I could get one asap when the
> new chip mask is out.
>
[snip]
So how much will this upgrade cost?
And what sort of performance gain can we expect?
Peter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: #9 GXE 64 Pro 4 meg problem
In-Reply-To: jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com's message of Wed, 19 Oct 1994 16:14:17 GMT
To: jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff Martin)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Oct20112059@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Oct19.161417.10825@bozell.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 15:20:56 GMT
In article <1994Oct19.161417.10825@bozell.com> jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com (Jeff Martin) writes:
We have 4 machines with #9 GXE64Pro 4meg cards. Two of them work fine at
all resolutions. Two of them produce multiple images (some sort of wrap
around effect) at resolutions over 1024x768. Any ideas?
Maybe you are using monitors which can't handle 76 Hz at higher
resolutions ? Most monitors can't and the effects would be similar to
what you describe.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Track Ball for non-ADB NeXT
Message-ID: <Cy1uwJ.2qI@sounds.wa.com>
Summary: Need bus mouse style interface for track ball
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 01:02:42 GMT
I have successfully rewired a Microsoft InPort (bus) Mouse to work with my
NeXTdimension (NeXTcube), but I cannot seem to find a Track Ball which does not
have a serial interface. Everything these days is either serial, or PS/2
(which is just another kind of serial interface). I really want a nice Track
Ball, and I don't mind hacking the cable or even the internal circuit board to
achieve this, but I need a Track Ball which provides the raw signals which can
be manipulated by the NeXT hardware.
I purchased a Kensington Expert Mouse v4.0 for the speed of the ball (it has
a good mass for high inertia movement), but their so-called "bus version" is
actually a serial track ball with a PC-bus serial card included. I would
simply rewire the circuit board, but I do not understand how to rewire the
quadrature elements in the Expert Mouse, which have two connectors, so that
they interface to the NeXT connector.
The Microsoft InPort Mouse required a little trickiness, since its quadrature
elements had three connectors instead of the four found in the NeXTmouse.
Surprisingly, the Microsoft Mouse worked even though there was no place to
connect the 5V line from the NeXT mouse cable.
What I am looking to find is either (1) someone who can help me wire the
Kensington Expert Mouse v4.0 to my NeXT mouse cable or (2) a source for
another high quality Track Ball with a bus mouse interface, old Macintosh
(pre-ADB) interface, or some other computer interface which involves the raw
electrical signals from the quadrature elements rather than a higher level
serial interface. I personally define "high quality Track Ball" as a Track
Ball which will spin for a while if you give it a whirl, usually due to
significant mass in the ball itself, rather than the cheap, lighter-weight
track balls which do not move as freely.
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: adler@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Bruce Adler [Contractor])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Plato P90 and NeXTSTEP - problems!
Date: 22 Oct 1994 04:08:28 GMT
Organization: Sunsoft Inc., Los Angeles Site, Ca.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38a37s$t6g@abyss.West.Sun.COM>
References: <389468$apa@www.geo.cornell.edu>
Cc:
In article <389468$apa@www.geo.cornell.edu>,
Chris Wolf <chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu> wrote:
>...
>I have suceeded in installing DOS on this system and getting it to
>recognize/use all of the attached SCSI devices using the DOSCAM.SYS
>drivers provided with the NCR controller. (However, it was necessary
>to load the DOSCAM.SYS drivers BEFORE loading the QEMM/386EMM drivers!)
>
>I have had absolutely NO luck getting NeXTSTEP running on this system
>though. ...
Anytime someone has told me DOS works but X doesn't work, where X is
any real O/S, I've found that they haven't configured their IRQs
correctly. DOS device drivers almost never use IRQs and therefore
don't fail when you've got a CMOS setup conflict.
BA
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cleaning the keyboard
Date: 22 Oct 1994 04:32:54 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38a4lm$7r6@news.onramp.net>
References: <387nr4$nao@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>
In article <387nr4$nao@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> foxm@benji.Colorado.EDU
(Mike Fox) writes:
>
> I've had my cube for a few years now and the keyboard is in need of a
> good cleaning. Other than the plethora of lint, the keys are
> increasingly harder to push and some are now sticking. Before I start
to
> pry keys off or take the board apart, I wanted to know if anybody had
> successfully done this. Can the sticking problem be cleared up with a
> lurbicant that won't eat away the keys?
I performed this procedure about a year ago and ran into only one snag:
the mechanical keys are easily broken if the caps are not removed
carefully. I know of no way to really clean the keyboard without removing
each cap and cleaning the keyboard and the caps seperately. As far as the
sticking goes, I have not found a good way to fix this if cleaning in
between the keys does not work. There might be a lubricant that will work
and if there is, don't worry about eating away the keys. They are
mold-injected from the underside and there is nothing you can do to wear
off the keys (nice job NeXT!).
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 GXE 64 Pro 4 meg problem
Date: 22 Oct 1994 04:36:01 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38a4rh$7v3@news.onramp.net>
References: <387psu$5u0@news.onramp.net>
In article <387psu$5u0@news.onramp.net> apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
writes:
> In article <1994Oct19.161417.10825@bozell.com> jmartin@Dallas.Bozell.com
> (Jeff Martin) writes:
> > We have 4 machines with #9 GXE64Pro 4meg cards. Two of them work fine
at
> > all resolutions. Two of them produce multiple images (some sort of
wrap
> > around effect) at resolutions over 1024x768. Any ideas?
>
> We have had this exact same problem on several machines. My idea so far
> is that there are two slightly different RAMDAC's shipped on these cards
> and one is supported by the NS driver and the other is not. If anyone
has
> any other info about this please post! Thank You,
I just found out that the problem is most likely due to an older version
of the BIOS (thank's Paul). Apparently some people have had this problem,
then replaced the BIOS with a newer version and the problem dissappeared.
I have a new shipment of #9's coming in next week and I will test this
rumor and post results.
--
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DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: serge@zooks.ME.berkeley.edu (Serge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sun monitor on a NeXT Cube?
Date: 22 Oct 1994 05:43:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <38a8ph$k70@agate.berkeley.edu>
Would anyone happen to know if a Sun 3/75 17" black and white monitor,
part # 540-1358-01, serial # 709E1536 can work on a NeXT cube (which
currently has a NeXT MegaPixel 17" black and white monitor, model N4000,
part no 135, serial number AAA5008760)? Thank you very much.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Message-ID: <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <3881gc$q5d@news.xs4all.nl>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 21:12:29 GMT
teeleh@xs4all.nl (teeleh) writes:
>The new pentium motherboards (Premiere II/PCI) have enhanced IDE circuitry
>onboard. In combination with a Western Digital Enhanced IDE Drive this should
>be quite something. Has anybody tried this and are there any enhanced IDE
>drivers available to take these chips to the max ?
NEXTSTEP doesn't support EIDE and I don't think it ever should. Just
'cause NEXTSTEP runs on PCs doesn't mean that NeXT should devote
resources to support every crummy PC standard out there. If you are
dealing with disks larger than 500mb, get a SCSI card. It just doesn't
make sense to spend $$$ on a system and cripple it so. It's amazing
the number of PC purchasers that spend $500 on the CPU, $400 on the
video board, but won't spend more than $20 on the disk controller.
NEXTSTEP is a workstation OS. The machine it runs on should be configured
as such.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Friend with dead hard drive
Date: 22 Oct 1994 12:48:36 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <38b1n4$q70@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
A friend of mine woke up this morning to discover that he's lost access
to over a gig of user files on his home machine. His last backup is
months old, despite my repeated warnings about the virtues of autobackup
scripts. (Anyone who is not doing incremental backup by script---or
by SafetyNet if you prefer a GUI solution---should think it over while
reading this. How much would you lose if a PANIC window came up right
this second, and your primary storage device was gone?)
The device is an external SCSI drive, and is completely unreadable.
Fsck, mount, disk -s, all bring up an 'Insert Disk' alert panel when
/dev/sd0a or /dev/rsd0a are accessed. It sounds to me like a hardware
failure---he doesn't know for sure that the disk is spinning up, but
thinks that he used to hear (fan + spin-up whirr) and now hears only
(fan + little clicks). He has lost net access along with his user
files, of course.
Could someone knowledgeable tell me the program for bringing a disk
with a frozen spindle up to speed ONCE before getting the data off and
discarding it? I know that shaking and banging within reason can get
things unstuck so that the motor can spin it up, and I have heard some
wild stories about _freezing_ a disk to make it mount. Could someone
who has been through this ordeal successfully please tell me what worked,
and how hard you did it? No don't-void-your-warranty worries: this
disk is going in the dumpster if he can just get it up and spinning one
more time. Any other suggestions?
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From: wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diamond Viper PCI w. Weitek 9100 - driver?
Date: 22 Oct 1994 15:50:27 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38bcc3$ekh@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Is there a driver for the Diamond Viper PCI with a Weitek 9100 chip (the
9000 driver doesn't seem to work)?
Alexander Wilkie
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From: nguyen05@futures.wharton.upenn.edu (DUCT NGUYEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE!
Date: 22 Oct 1994 16:44:05 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <38bfgl$icn@netnews.upenn.edu>
Is anyone using the Daydream box? From what I've heard, this would basically
give me a Macintosh Quadra (though I don't know which one. As fast as a
605? 800? 840AV?) because it comes with the Apple ROMs.
I'm interested in learning more about this product, including the company
that makes it. And if you have one for sale, please let me know how it's
worked for you. And, of course, an asking price.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Duc Nguyen
215-417-6703
nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu
From: rolando@sdac.harvard.edu (Roland Bassett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help with System Purchase???
Date: 22 Oct 1994 18:22:47 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Statistical & Data Analysis Center
Message-ID: <38bl9n$5pg@hsdndev.harvard.edu>
Summary: Please help!
Keywords: video card, system
Howdy, folks.
I am thinking of purchasing a Pentium system and want to be able to
run NS along with DOS/Windows. I have NeXT's Hardware Compatibility
Guide, but I can't seem to figure out what will work and what won't.
I would appreciate any advice anyone could give me.
Here's what I'm thinking of getting. Please let me know if my choices
are reasonable or stupid or if I need a different configuration, etc.
Thanks! Please excuse me if there is a FAQ for this somewhere, as
I've been reading for a short while and haven't seen one. I've been
reading the ads, but I don't have any particular manufacturers in
mind. I would appreciate any advice on this score as well.
Pentium 90 MHz
16/24/32 meg RAM
17" monitor - any particular brands good/bad?
1 GB IDE hard drive
2X CD-ROM drive IDE (is Enhanced IDE okay?)
probably no sound card (I can add this later if needed)
and then, of course, there's what's giving me the _most_ trouble, the
graphics card. I have seen several options: the ATI Mach 64, the
Diamond Stealth 64, the Number 9 GXE64, the Number 9 GXE64 Pro, etc.
Will NS run with all of these? Which ones are better? Should I
consider another card all together? I noticed someone who said that
his company wrote a driver for one (I believe the ATI Mach 64) and
that they offer it for sale. Are drivers for any of these cards free
or will they all cost something? Please help! Thanks!
Roland Bassett
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From: cosc19vt@marge.cc.uh.edu (Wladislaw Szwab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dual booting and SCSI access?
Date: 22 Oct 1994 19:58:58 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <38bqu2$3qb@masala.cc.uh.edu>
You will need an ASPI driver in your Config.SYS.:wq
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Message-ID: <Cy3D8J.AqM@utstat.toronto.edu>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <3881gc$q5d@news.xs4all.nl> <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org>
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 20:36:18 GMT
In article <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
[ ]
>NEXTSTEP doesn't support EIDE and I don't think it ever should. Just
>'cause NEXTSTEP runs on PCs doesn't mean that NeXT should devote
>resources to support every crummy PC standard out there. If you are
>dealing with disks larger than 500mb, get a SCSI card. It just doesn't
>make sense to spend $$$ on a system and cripple it so. It's amazing
>the number of PC purchasers that spend $500 on the CPU, $400 on the
>video board, but won't spend more than $20 on the disk controller.
>
>NEXTSTEP is a workstation OS. The machine it runs on should be configured
>as such.
I don't agree with this thinking at all. The world is moving towards EIDE,
and it won't be just a matter of a $20 difference for the disk controller.
Keep forcing NS to run on expensive equipment and you'll doom it. It will
indeed become a MCOS with a lifespan of minutes.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: tim@access.rrinc.com.blacksburg.va.us (Tim Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Need help with IBM 0664CSH OEM drive
Date: 22 Oct 1994 21:55:14 GMT
Organization: Recognition Research, Inc.
Message-ID: <38c1o2$d3e@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: IBM 0664 4GB drive NeXTStep
I'm trying to help a friend add a new drive to his NeXTstation, and we're about
at the end of our collective rope.
The drive is an IBM 0664CSH (OEM Allicat S20) drive, 4GB capacity. We're
trying to attach it to a NeXTstation running NeXTStep 3.2.
We're able to successfully format the drive to a 512-byte blocksize. Then we
go to write the disk label ("disk -t 0664CSH -i /dev/rsd2a"); it fails with an
error message about the write failing ("r/w returned -1; expected 50176") when
it tries to write the boot blocks.
When we try to do a newfs ("/usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd2a 0664CSH"), it gives
"write error: 4194303", then "wtfs: I/O error". If I didn't know better, I'd
swear the disk is write-protected (but the write-protect isn't jumpered, and
we were able to format it).
Here's the disktab entry we're using:
0664CSH|IBM OEM 0664CSH:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#2857:nt#30:ns#94:ss#512:rm#5400:\
:fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:rw#a:rw#b:\
:pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD\
:pb#4194304:sb#3145728:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\
:ib:tb=4.3BSD:
This specifies a 2GB partition (a), then the rest of the disk in partition b.
Here's the information about the disk (as output by "scsimodes /dev/rsd2a"):
512 bytes per sector
94 sectors per track
30 tracks per cylinder
2857 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders)
34 spare sectors per cylinder
0 alternate tracks per volume
7866079 usable sectors on volume
This information seems correct w.r.t. the information in the drive docs.
Has anyone used this drive in a NeXTstation (ideally) or elsewhere and can
offer helpful advice?
--
Timothy Buck | Q: "How many Apple Newtons does it take
tim@access.rrinc.com.blacksburg.va.us | to change a light bulb?"
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu | A: "Faux. Three lemons axe soup."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1994Oct20.114829.30618@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (mike emmel)
Date: 20 Oct 94 11:48:28 MDT
References: <384eb7$efd@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <384eb7$efd@network.ucsd.edu> writes:
> Mike Paquette (mnp!mpaque@NeXT.COM) wrote:
> : 3) The AppKit is not thread-safe (not even on the old m88k and 601
> : SMP prototype hardware Mr. Jobs and others have mentioned). Oh, it's
> : been thought about, but fundamentally the AppKit is an inappropriate
> : candidate for multithreaded operation. The degree of interlocking
> : required would effectively serialize the entire kit, with no
> : performance gain (in fact, a net loss!) over the current kit. Think
> : of the AppKit as a set of tools used to manipulate the global state
> : of a GUI, and you may see what I mean.
>
> Would even a thread safe AppKit be necessary? Look at X on
> Solaris. I can run 2 X programs and a calculational job
> in the background and the X server. I don't think that
> Xlib is threaded or even needs to be. (local data is
> for each process--you link Xlib with the program,
> not the shared server).
>
> Multiprocessing is still nice, as long as there are multiple
> processes that could be run at once, right?
>
> I.e. could I have one process be my own GUI programming
> sending DPS events and the other process be the WindowServer
> rasterizing and eating up events from the queue? That would
> be fine by me.
>
> Sounds like all you need is a MP safe event queue that processes can
push
> and the window server can pop. That can't be too hard, right?
>
> Multithreaded windowserver and applications would be nicer still
> but MP now would still be cool.
>
> : Mike Paquette
> : =====
> : I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me.
>
> --
> -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
> -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
> -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
> -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
I noted your signature and it seems to me NeXT has unwittingly opened
itself up to a new market. Numerical simulations. I don't know how many
workstations are sold to do simulations in chemistry,physics,math, and
engineering but I would suspect a vast majority. One of the most important
factors to Numerical methods is floating point speed. Another is these
methods are often readily parrellized. The simpilest way to sovle these
problems is smp. Thus the intrest. Sun knows this why do you thinks they
still have a large market share even though they don't have the fastest
prosccesor. I like NeXT because I'm able to quickly program a gui for my
numerical methods and I hate X.
The question is; Is NeXT going to support and go after the Workstation
market for numerical methods are not?
1.) No fortran compilier for the HP.
2.) No Numerical methods classes.
3.) No smp.
4.) No Examples of distributed numerical methods (what happened to Zilla
can you release the source?)
5.) No ability to interact simply with Unix macines not running NeXTStep
i.e (CRAY) so forget distributed objects.
Therfore I don't think NeXT has any real intrest in this market.
From: khare@cco.caltech.edu (Rohit Khare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Scary Evolution of Windoze
Date: 22 Oct 1994 23:57:54 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <38c8u2$e8u@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941015042438.808F-100000@flagstaff.princeton.edu> <Cxv6oq.BFD@xexos.com>
mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes:
>Matt Webster <gmw@phoenix.princeton.edu> writes:
>> There is now the option under the Control Panel/Desktop applet to drag
>> the entire window around like NeXT Step does. None of this retro
>> dragging outlines like before.
>>
>> At any rate, it is good to see Microsoft implement at least one of the
>> features that makes NS machines so cool.
>According to Cringely in Infoworld this feature got dropped from
>Chicago/Windows 95 at the very last minute, but might make it back in the form
>of an "add-on" pack.
>Its cute but..
<mini-rant>
Dragging around windows by the title bar as windows is NOT "what makes NS
machines so cool". It IS what makes the UI more physically convincing,
adorable, and intuitive. It IS easily copiable by any other windowing
system or manager -- here, the NT driver for a certain board with onboard
bitblt.
What DOES make dragging windows by the title bar CRITICAL is PRECISELY
that this is NOT "syantactic sugar" for the GUI, that it is NOT a
hardware/driver function, that it does NOT require user or developer
invervention.
"What makes NS machines cool" is that this window behavior follows as a
natual consequence of the buffered, PostScript drawing model. Window-dragging
is a _feature_ of this system, not a _benefit_. The moral is not about
bit-blitting, it's about a drawing model that's invariant to window movement,
onscreen/offscreen, color/mono, square/rectangular...
... and that is something no GDI, PM, or QDGX can ever copy, because a
procedural drawing model just can't do much to patch around an entire
application architecture predicated on 'draw to the bits, on demand' and
'memoryless' APIs
<rant off>
Rohit Khare
Rohit Khare, Vice-President, Caltech and JPL Users of NeXT
khare@cco.caltech.edu Class of '95 (818) 792-9114
"N e X T s t e p S h a l l M a k e Y o u F r e e"
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: mac emulation
Date: 23 Oct 1994 01:31:54 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38ceea$jon@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <38788p$3nb@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
In article <38788p$3nb@atlas.cs.upei.ca> student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter
Burka) writes:
> There is a software-only emulator called Executor on some of the major
> FTP sites. I haven't tried the NeXT version, but the DOS version was
> pretty good when I took it for a spin.
Executor runs MSWord and Excel well, but doesn't run most Mac software.
It doesn't run KaleidaGraph, for example.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: shunter@cais2.cais.com (Steve K Hunter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 8 tries so far
Date: 23 Oct 1994 01:33:01 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <38cegd$10p@news.cais.com>
Hello,
I'm trying to install NS3.2FIP.
My config:
Zeos Pantera 90 (I know of success running on this platform)
Adaptec 1542cf SCSI
Sun CD (sony ?)
700Mb IDE
My Experience:
Try 1: Next wipes out 200Mb of Dos space I reserved.
panics on private/tmp/mnta ....
Try 2: 200Mb Dos part, 500Mb Next
private/tmp/mnta: bad ino ....
kernel panic(6,3,1)
Try 3: Use total disk for Next
.. (2%) loaded
panic (CPU 0) ialloc:dup alloc
Try 4: Same config
... (3%)
panic
Try 5..8
If a dos partion is created then
./private/tmp/mta baddir ino 143336 at offset 0
mangeled entry
panic.........
Not having much luck here, does anybody have an
FAQ for install problems ?
thanks
Steve Hunter
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SubNotebook for NeXTSTEP
Date: 23 Oct 1994 02:19:54 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <38ch8a$r8t@news.bu.edu>
Greetings,
I am looking to purchase a laptop for running NeXTSTEP. I need to buy it
sometime within the next 3-4 months, so its not critical that the machine in
question exist RIGHT NOW, so if there's something close to what I'm looking
for "just over the horizon and coming Real Soon Now," that might be close
enough.
Anyway, I'm looking for something that fits the following specifications as
closely as possible. Price isn't really an issue, performance, integration,
and reliability on the other hand are EXTREMELY important.
Desired specs:
Sub-Notebook form factor, with full-size, full-travel keyboard, trackball or
touchpad (ne, Powerbooks). Ports supporting the addition of external mouse,
keyboard and monitor. Internal or External 3.5" drive (not really an issue).
486/75 [DX4/75], 486/100 [DX4/100] or Pentium Processor
32-40mb RAM
520-810mb disk
PCMIA 14.4 or V.fast modem with Fax
PCMIA Ethernet
Dual-Scan Active-Matrix Color Screen
16bit VESA Localbus Color
Minimum 800x600 on-screen resolution, with 1024x768 rewsolution when driving
an external monitor
16-bit Stereo sound
and if available, powersaving features that work with NeXTSTEP, and the longest
possible battery life.
Sub-Notebooks that I'm aware of that come very close, or match the specs in
question are some of the new NEC Versa's that are coming out, and ca few of the
custom systems put together by Talus (T-100) and various models by Sager
(Sagar <sp?>)
Any pointers in the right direction are greatly appreciated. If there's a
desire, I will summarize and post my findings.
thanks!
bbry
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Requeatt: NeXTSTEP Hardware List
Date: 23 Oct 1994 03:52:17 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38cmlh$9h6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi ALL,
We are currently planning to buy several NeXTSTEP PCs for development.
I would like to know if anyone have P90 machine with PCI SCSI and PCI 64bit
Graphics Adaptors running.....If not, how about VLBus equivalents? We are
looking for the fastest PCs which are support by NS/FIP.
I will summarize and keep a list. Thanks in advance.
--
//|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
// || // @
//==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
// || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 8 tries so far
Date: 23 Oct 1994 05:32:59 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <38csib$kpm@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <38cegd$10p@news.cais.com>
Steve K Hunter (shunter@cais2.cais.com) wrote:
[...]
: Not having much luck here, does anybody have an
: FAQ for install problems ?
I assume your IDE is extended IDE (EIDE), which NeXT doesn't support yet.
You might want to try just using the first 500MB for NS, and if that
works, use the latter 200MB for DOS. If it doesn't work, try disabling
EIDE to IDE (if possible).
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: taweil@nunki.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Suggestion Wanted: CD-ROM drive
Date: 22 Oct 1994 22:41:05 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: taweil@nunki.usc.edu
Message-ID: <38ct1h$mgk@nunki.usc.edu>
Hi,
I am looking for a 3x or 4x CD-ROM drive which will work with DPT 2122 and
NeXTSTEP/Intel. So far, I am having bad luck with NEC 3Xi. It seems to be the
problem of the drive itself. A ny suggestion and recommandations are
appricated.
--
Ta-Wei "David" Li
UNIX Consultant, University of Southern California
Member, League for Programming Freedom
"Innovate, don't litigate."
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Requeatt: NeXTSTEP Hardware List
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 94 02:02:34 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <xyy2CfK.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <38cmlh$9h6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
We have an extensive NSFIP-compatible product line which includes
these types of configurations.
You can obtain an overview of the company, etc. on the StepWise
WWW server.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Message-ID: <bchin.782893096@news.andi.org>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <3881gc$q5d@news.xs4all.nl> <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> <Cy3D8J.AqM@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 06:18:16 GMT
phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>>NEXTSTEP doesn't support EIDE and I don't think it ever should.
>>
>>NEXTSTEP is a workstation OS. The machine it runs on should be configured
>>as such.
>I don't agree with this thinking at all. The world is moving towards EIDE,
>and it won't be just a matter of a $20 difference for the disk controller.
>Keep forcing NS to run on expensive equipment and you'll doom it. It will
>indeed become a MCOS with a lifespan of minutes.
NS requires "expensive" hardware. No way around that right now. If people
are buying P90's for $3500-$6000, why skimp on $150? EIDE under NEXTSTEP
performs much worse than SCSI. On a machine that costs that much, why
unbalance the configuration that much?
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Help: Mac Help: Mac refuses to acknowledge Seagate drive.
Message-ID: <Cy3vKp.CzF@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 03:12:25 GMT
Hi. I am trying to connect an external scsi drive - a Seagate model ST4702N-to
a Mac(IIci) with no success. When I run the utility "Apple HD SC Setup" to
format it, I get the message : "Unable to locate a suitable drive connected to
the scsi port".
If I run the 'Norton Utilities' program, it sees the drive.It tells me
its scsi id.
I used a NeXTstation to format this drive with the Macintosh file
system, hoping that when attached to the Mac it would finally recognize it.
Well... it still doesn't . "Apple HD SC Setup" tells me the same thing and when
I ran again 'Norton Utilities' it says : "the root folder could't be
found"
Can someone please help resolve this problem? Your reply will be very
appreciated .
bye,
Ze Tomas
From: roland@dobag.in-berlin.de (Roland Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI hardware
Date: 23 Oct 1994 14:58:53 +0100
Organization: dobag computer systems - berlin germany
Message-ID: <38dq6t$op0@DoBag.IN-Berlin.DE>
Hi!
Is the ATI Ultra PRO PCI graphics enhancer supported by Nextstep
for Intel? What about the Buslogic fastscsi-II PCI hostadapter?
Regards,
Roland Becker
e-mail: roland@dobag.in-berlin.de
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3.3 driver support frozen yet?
Date: 23 Oct 1994 15:07:58 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <38du8e$3c5@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
Hi all,
Does anybody know if the feature set for 3.3 driver support has been
'frozen' yet? The latest HWCG has a few 'planned 4Q94' fields,
and it would be nice to know which drivers will be there and which won't,
specifically the NCR 8xx SCSI support.
(I wonät say the 'T' word, as in 'Talus'..oops! :)
I recall a posting some time ago from Darren Smith, where he announced that
he would soon post more info on this issue. It sure would be nice if
someone@NeXT would say what's up - if the feature set isn't frozen yet,
that's OK to hear, too.
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstätte, GMD-IPSI/PaVE | GCS d- H-- s:- g+++ a? w- v++ C++ UX++++
hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de [NeXTmail NO] | P--- N++ W--- MV Y+ -po+ tv++ b++ h++ n+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Suggestion Wanted: CD-ROM drive
Message-ID: <Cy4yEw.Exp@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <38ct1h$mgk@nunki.usc.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 17:11:10 GMT
Ta-Wei Li (taweil@nunki.usc.edu) wrote:
: I am looking for a 3x or 4x CD-ROM drive which will work with DPT 2122 and
: NeXTSTEP/Intel. So far, I am having bad luck with NEC 3Xi. It seems to be the
: problem of the drive itself. A ny suggestion and recommandations are
: appricated.
If you don't receive a more definitive answer, Ta-Wei, you might
consider trying the Plextor 4Plex. My internal drive is connected to
a BusLogic 747S, and, throughout my installation ordeal, has been
flawless. It's not cheap(but then, I believe that, by and large, you
get what you invest in, be that time or money). This drive is *fast*;
the Developer package installed in twenty minutes. CDPlayer runs
fine.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications, ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages ><
From: jtodd@ss1.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Track Ball for non-ADB NeXT
Date: 23 Oct 1994 17:26:26 GMT
Organization: Wit's End
Message-ID: <38e6c2$olt@news1.digex.net>
References: <Cy1uwJ.2qI@sounds.wa.com>
Brian Willoughby (brianw@sounds.wa.com) wrote:
: I have successfully rewired a Microsoft InPort (bus) Mouse to work with my
: NeXTdimension (NeXTcube), but I cannot seem to find a Track Ball which does not
: have a serial interface. Everything these days is either serial, or PS/2
: (which is just another kind of serial interface). I really want a nice Track
[munch]
: --
: Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
: NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
Here's some info that I pulled out of one of my older files:
[begin included message]
: For those interested I have connected a Kraft TripleTrack trackball for
: the Amiga/Atari. It works and the feel isn't too bad. I've dumped the
: mouse and the only disadvantage is that the unit isn't black.
: It has a drag lock button that is great for moving files, etc.
: The cost around here at the local Amiga stores is $45.00.
: I have it wired in the Atari mode but the Amiga mode also works.
: Kent
:
This is a non-ADB system (if it was ADB I wouldn't be worried about a
trackball).
The NeXT pinouts are as follows and can be obtained from the reference
manuals.
6 7 8
3 4 5
1 2
Signals:
1 +5V
2 XA
3 XB
4 YA
5 YB
6 Right Button
7 Left Button
8 Ground
Shell Chassis Ground
Now on the Amiga/Atari the connector is different and needs a cable hack.
The connector looks like this:
-------------------
\ 5 4 3 2 1 /
\ 9 8 7 6 /
--------------
For the Amiga
1 V pulse
2 H pulse
3 VQ pulse
4 HQ pulse
5 Middle button (optional)
6 Left Button
7 +5V
8 Ground
9 Right Button
I connected the mouse as follows
NeXT Amiga
-----------------------------
+5V +5V
XA HQ pulse
XB H pulse
YA VQ pulse
YB V pulse
RB Right Button
LB Left Button
Ground Ground
For The Atari
1 XB
2 XA
3 YB
4 YA
5 Middle Button (optional)
6 Left Button
7 +5V
8 Ground
9 Right Button
So I set in the Atari ST mode and opened the case removed the original
cable and used an old serial cable to make a new cable to connect to the
NeXT. I found that the mouse worked better in the Atari mode vs. the Amiga
mode when wired correctly although both will work. The Atari mode seemed
to offer better control.
Will need an Ohm meter to determine which pin corresponds to which wire in
the
mouse, actually a simple test light will work.
I have scrapped my mouse - LONG LIVE MY TRACKBALL. (No I don't plan to sell
the mouse because I may decide to use it later.)
BTW - This trackball is set up so that you move the ball wit you fingers
and click with your thumb. To activate the drag hold button you use your
forefinger (right hand). When wired the center button behaves as the
NeXT right button and the two outside buttons are the left button.
I hope this helps.
Kent
--
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*/
/* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work.
*/
[end included message]
Good luck.
--
John Todd - Field Sales/Technical Entropy Supervisor - jtodd@digex.net
Digital Express Internet Providers - 1-800-969-9090 x307 = sales info
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SubNotebook for NeXTSTEP
Date: 23 Oct 1994 18:47:53 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <38eb4p$jq9@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <38ch8a$r8t@news.bu.edu>
You have essentially described my wishlist for a good portable solution
(add a price of $2,500). Unfortunately, such solutions definitely do not
exist (yet):
I am not aware of a subnotebook with 500MB hard disk space,
definitely there is no Pentium subnotebook (and probably
nothing faster than a DX2/50), definitely there is no
800*600 notebook yet, etc.
And, by the way, there are no dual-scan active matrix screens.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 14:54:34 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Iief5eK00iVCA30bIa@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Cy3D8J.AqM@utstat.toronto.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 22-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Philip McDunnough@utstat
> I don't agree with this thinking at all. The world is moving towards EIDE,
The workstation world has been using SCSI for years. Heck, even the
Macs now use SCSI instead of some proprietary interface. IDE and EIDE
are inferior to SCSI, and I expect them to die off as a viable
standard-- the sooner, the better.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: wesel@ping.at (WESEL Peter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI NCR-SCSI Driver?
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 20:38:24
Organization: PING Personal Internet Gate
Message-ID: <wesel.4.0014A470@ping.at>
Is the NCR-SCSI for the PCI-Bus supported by NeXTStep for INTEL?
If yes, where can i get this driver? (cost ?)
Thanks to all who answer?
From: nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu (Duc T. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on NeXT vs. other platforms?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 17:15:14 -0500
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <nguyen05-231094171514@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>
I have 2 main questions:
1. What are the differences between NS/Motorolla & NS/Intel (and whatever
other ports in the works)? Are there any functionality differences? There
must be performance differences... So which is the better hardware for NS?
How does, say, a Pentium 90 compare to an 040/25 or 33? What are the
set-backs to running NS on non-NeXT platforms?
2. Does it make sense to buy a NeXT now (vs. a Pentium, etc.)?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Duc Nguyen
nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu
I lied. I have a third, unrelated question:
3. What are the major NeXT publications? NeXTworld???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: glugauer@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Gordon B Lugauer)
Subject: Looking for NeXT music info
Message-ID: <1994Oct23.225112.22972@midway.uchicago.edu>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: Covenant of the Inverted Circle, University of Chicago
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 22:51:12 GMT
I have the opportunity to come across a used NeXT slab cheap from the lab I work
for. I plan on adding it to my electronic studio comprising of three synths
and a pc/ linux box with an scc-1 card which I use for realization of my own
compositions. I've perused a few faqs, which have given me a bunch of ftp
sites to look at, but I still have a few questions:
The cds I have access to are nextstep 3.0, is there a way I can get the music
kit software- I've heard that it is no longer distributed with that release.
Most of the dates listing the ftp sites are rather old, are they still valid?
Are there more sites?
How can I hook up the NeXT via midi? What special hardware might I need, and
where would be good places to look for it?
Any advice from those who've use the NeXT would also be welcome.
Thanks,
-Gordon B. Lugauer gbl@uchicago.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on NeXT vs. other platforms?
Date: 23 Oct 1994 23:00:42 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38epuq$13j@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <nguyen05-231094171514@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>
In article <nguyen05-231094171514@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>
nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu (Duc T. Nguyen) writes:
> 1. What are the differences between NS/Motorolla & NS/Intel (and
> So which is the better hardware for NS?
Motorolla hardware is used; Intel and HP hardware is not. With Motorolla
hardware, you may have to replace a worn out mouse or a dimming monitor.
Replacement parts (logitek mouse, replacement tube) are available at a
reasonable cost, as long as you stay away from Bell Atlantic (high
prices).
Motorolla hardware is slower than Pentium or HP hardware. If fast number
crunching is important, buy an HP or a Pentium. Motorolla 68040 hardware
is faster than a 33 MHz or even a 50 MHz 486DX, but a Pentium leaves it
far behind.
Motorolla hardware works right, with no configuration problems. Intel
hardware can be a pain in the *#*! to get configured right. Only certain
cards and drivers work with Intel hardware. You must get approved SCSI,
graphics and sound cards and the appropriate drivers. You can reduce your
Intel configuration woes buy spending more money and buying a certified
system from a company that will preinstall NextStep. However, this costs
money. The Canon ObjectStation (Intel 486) is just as nicely integrated
as the origonal NeXT hardware. However, Canon wants a premium price. HP
hardware has only a limited set of SCSI drives, CD ROM drives and other
peripherals which will work with NextStep. On some HP machines, the
floppy drive doesn't work with NextStep. You can get the ultimate number
crunching performance from a top of the line HP, but you'll have to pay
big bucks for it and for the HP approved peripherals.
Nearly all NextStep sofware is available for Motorolla and Intel hardware.
Everything hasn't yet been ported to HP.
> 2. Does it make sense to buy a NeXT now (vs. a Pentium, etc.)?
If you want a nicely integrated machine, no configuration woes, descent
speed but don't need super number crunching power, then you should
consider a used Motorolla machine. If you are rich and need speed, then
buy a top of the line HP. If you want a fast, new machine at a medium
range price, then go for Intel.
> 3. What are the major NeXT publications? NeXTworld???
NextWorld has been dead for months. Try NeXT in Line.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Gibson_Rory@pcp.ca (Rory Gibson)
Subject: Re: [Q] Pros/cons: Diamond Stealth v. #9, Nokia v. Sony, NCR v. Adaptec
Message-ID: <1994Oct24.013020.13268@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <3892ch$sab@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 94 01:30:20 GMT
In article <3892ch$sab@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu
(David Finton) writes:
> I'm getting ready to buy a system, and I'm considering the following
> configuration:
>
> Intel Premiere II P54C-90 Motherboard
> 32 MB RAM, 1 GB disk (Quantum?)
> NCR PCI SCSI II Controller, Talus driver
> #9 GXE64 Pro video card, 4 MB VRAM
> Nokia 17" monitor
> 1.44 MB floppy
> NEC 2x SCSI CD-ROM
> ? Soundcard supported by MusicKit:
> (Ariel PC56D, i*link i56, Turtle Beach Multisound)
> Microsoft 2.0 serial mouse
>
> Any comments?
>
> I'm wondering about some alternatives:
>
> 1. Nokia v. Sony 17SE1 v. Idek?
> 2. #9 video v. Diamond Stealth v. Weitek P9100 Power-Graphics
(JCIS)?
> 3. I'm clueless about sound cards.
> 4. NCR v. Adaptec?
>
> Also: would this system allow me to run SLIP reliably? I've heard
> something about SLIP not liking serial mice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Finton
> finton@cs.wisc.edu
I've tested both the #9 and the Diamond Stealth on a 90Mhz Pentium and
the #9 came out quite a bit faster. Under NXBench I believe the results
were:
NXFactor
#9 1.8
D-S 1.6
Rory Gibson.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE!
Message-ID: <1994Oct24.021034.5780@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <38bfgl$icn@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 02:10:34 GMT
In article <38bfgl$icn@netnews.upenn.edu> nguyen05@futures.wharton.upenn.edu (DUCT NGUYEN) writes:
>>Is anyone using the Daydream box? From what I've heard, this would basically
>>give me a Macintosh Quadra (though I don't know which one. As fast as a
>>605? 800? 840AV?) because it comes with the Apple ROMs.
>>
We got a nice demo of this at the BCS meeting a few months ago. An amazing
piece of work - seriously. If I had a spare $400 or $500, I would
definitely pick one of these up. It was stunning...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis)
Subject: Dell 60 & 90mhz pentiums ala NS
Message-ID: <Cy5qK5.1y5@usa.net>
Sender: news@usa.net (News)
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 03:19:17 GMT
Has anyone had any bad luck with DELL Pentiums and NeXTStep?
NeXT will not put DELL on their compatable systems list because of some
cry baby reason, but I was gonna order one...
Anybody?
e
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Message-ID: <Cy5rAC.6s7@utstat.toronto.edu>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> <Cy3D8J.AqM@utstat.toronto.edu> <bchin.782893096@news.andi.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 03:35:00 GMT
In article <bchin.782893096@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
[ ]
>NS requires "expensive" hardware. No way around that right now. If people
>are buying P90's for $3500-$6000, why skimp on $150? EIDE under NEXTSTEP
>performs much worse than SCSI. On a machine that costs that much, why
>unbalance the configuration that much?
NS does not require expensive hardware, and local bus IDE is very good and
causes fewer hassles when running NS. I happen to run NS quite nicely on a
cheap no-name clone of sorts. It's fast than my Cube was (and I'm "only"
using a 486) and I see no need to rush into the PCI/P90 bandwagon while
PCI has only fairly recently been sorted out. I have no idea where this myth
of the superiority of SCSI comes from, but one thing is sure: you do not need
$4000US to run NS, and the difference between EIDE and a PCI SCSI solution
is far more than $150. The same crowd that almost ran Apple into the ground
with its BMW attitude is trying it again with NEXTSTEP. Apple learned it
lesson, perhaps in time. Howevere, I just think that people who don't see
the importance of a large market are kidding themselves. The future in
computing lies with the masses. The way the MCA people would have it, you'd
have NS joining APL in very short order. There are many out there who want
to make a quick buck, and have become NS converts overnight. Like true
leeches they will move on to the next fancy niche when the opportunity presents
itself.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Salvaging newly-dead HD in 68040 cube??
Date: 24 Oct 1994 04:31:18 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <38fdam$c95@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Alas, the original 350 Mb hard drive in my 040 cube at home died tonight...
I came in the room and the only sound coming from the machine was the sound of
the ventillation fan -- the disk drive had stopped completely.
The HD had been getting a bit noisy over the past year, but I figured it would
just continue to get worse, and that I would have some warning so that I
could have a new drive on order near the end.
What are the chances that I will be able to get the drive to spin up again at
least long enough to get my newest files off? Any suggestions on how to
proceed?
Thanks very much.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE!
Date: 24 Oct 1994 05:11:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38fflv$5so@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <1994Oct24.021034.5780@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1994Oct24.021034.5780@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> >>Is anyone using the Daydream box? From what I've heard, this would
> We got a nice demo of this at the BCS meeting a few months ago. An
But the people at Quix don't answer their email, and Dancing Bear has
stopped carrying Daydream. Does DayDream still exist? If so, does it
have sound?
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 01:44:04 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QieoaYq00iVCQ8jRIT@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Cy5rAC.6s7@utstat.toronto.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 24-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Philip McDunnough@utstat
> I have no idea where this myth of the superiority of SCSI comes from,
Really? Philip, can you name even one area where IDE is technically
superior to SCSI?
SCSI _is_ superior, as you'll discover if you try looking up the
specifications for the two standards. SCSI beats IDE on the following
technical points:
(a) bus speed, and hence the maximum data transfer rate
(b) number of devices possible on a bus
(c) the ability to specify drive geometry correctly without having to
lie for large drives because of IDE's limitations on geometry parameters
(d) SCSI's disconnect/reconnect, which allows multiple simultaneous
requests and thus allows much higher total data throughput over one bus
with multiple drives than is possible with IDE
EIDE is a semi-competent kludge on top of the braindamage that the IDE
standard truly is. EIDE compares to SCSI-1 (sort of), but it simply
doesn't match up with the modern fast/wide SCSI-2 specification.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 24 Oct 1994 01:54:50 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <38fi7a$cfg@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
----------------------------------------------------
A product directory and information server, built around
the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia
announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability
to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online now, and can be reached at
http://www.stepwise.com/
http://www.digifix.com/
using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic.
If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you
access to the server as well.
The entries currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
- User Group locations
- Mailing List archives and information
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is
available. You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
news://comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
news://comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
news://comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
news://comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
news://comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news://comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
news://comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
news://comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
news://comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
news://comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news://comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news://comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
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(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
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NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by: Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from: Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com) Michael Pizolato (mailto:Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
and Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: johns@ccnet.com (John Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Plato P90 and NeXTSTEP - problems!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Date: 24 Oct 1994 04:33:19 -0700
Organization: CCnet Communications (510-988-7140 guest)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38g61v$o2s@ccnet.ccnet.com>
References: <389468$apa@www.geo.cornell.edu>
Chris Wolf (chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu) wrote:
: I have had absolutely NO luck getting NeXTSTEP running on this system
: though. In every case described below NeXTSTEP starts to boot,
: displays messages that it is reading the appropriate config/Default0
: tables, displays messages that it is loading the appropriate device
: drivers, and then displays "Starting NeXTSTEP..." in the diagnostic
: output and hangs there forever with no error messages, no disk
: activity, nothing.
Although you probably tried this, I'll post the suggestion anyway.
Try disabling all IRQs in the AMI BIOS setup program. Just set it to
"Used by ISA Card" for all of them. I believe one has to be available, so
set them all to "Used by ISA Card" except for 9, 10, or 11; just one of
those three.
This probably won't help, but is worth a try. You could also try setting
the processor speed to 75 MHz, just for fun, but that is even less likely
to help...
Good luck.
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Track Ball for non-ADB NeXT
Date: 24 Oct 1994 02:58:42 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <38f7t2$96f@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <Cy1uwJ.2qI@sounds.wa.com>
In article <Cy1uwJ.2qI@sounds.wa.com> brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
writes:
stuff deleted...
> ...What I am looking to find is ... (2) a source for
> another high quality Track Ball with a bus mouse interface...
> Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
> NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
> BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
We use "RollerMouse" trackballs by Joystick Technologies, Inc. They are not as
good as Kensington but they made (make?) a black version that just works on old
NeXT hardware.
Features: it works
4 buttons configurable with dip switches
comes with Max.app software by Scott Hess for fine tuning
when we had switch problems, they replaced the parts quickly
Problems: the ball is bound in the cup, cleaning requires removing the
rubber feet and the 4 hidden screws
the traction is not as nice as the Kensington
we've had to replace some of the switches (a standard part
J. Technologies was incredulous that they broke)
Source: CH products
970 Park Center Drive
Vista, CA 92083-9794
Joystick Technologies
If you prefer the Kensington action (and you will) you may be able to take the
electronic works of the RollerMouse and mate it to the Kensington hardware.
Please let us know how you make out.
Paul Buckley
buckley@mayo.edu
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 7870 support?
Date: 23 Oct 1994 19:44:07 -0500
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <38f00n$s3g@cobber.cord.edu>
I hope that the Adaptec 7870 PCI SCSI-3 chip is going to be supported,
especially since it comes on-board the DECpcXL Server EISA/PCI machine
that is currently undergoing certification.
I've had this machine running NeXTStep sweetly for four long months now and
I've watched the list of supported Adaptec cards slowly increase - like
counting them chipset numbers: 154x, 174x, 274x, 284x, 6x60, and soon
2940 and 7770.
Come on already, 7870 should be NeXT right?
I don't know how long I can keep this cheesy Adaptec 1540B that I've borrowed
from the college. I'd hate to spend extra cash on a controller that is
inferior to my onboard controller. But looks like I'm gonna have to.
--
Jonathan A. Doroin
doroin@cobber.cord.edu
doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: john@delta.success.net (John Banghart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Only get 640x480...help
Date: 24 Oct 1994 14:44:38 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <38gh8m$3ee@uuneo.neosoft.com>
I have NeXTStep 3.2 on a 486dx2/66 with 24m RAM, ATI graphics board with
1m RAM, and a Mag Innovision 17" monitor. I have Video Shadow Ram
disabled.
When it tries to register the display it says:
Unable to match modes, using default.
Can someone please help me? I would like to run in at least 1024x768.
Thanks
-John
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cirrus logic 5426 2mb vlb ???
Date: 24 Oct 1994 14:46:39 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <38ghcf$8sp@news.tuwien.ac.at>
hi there,
anybody using NeXTStep with a cirrus 5426 2mb vl-bus graphics card???
16bit color graphics available ???
pls. mail directly to:
smantler@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at
thanks!!!
-sm
From: bm10009@cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Spurious DMA interrupts on console?
Date: 24 Oct 1994 14:58:13 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <38gi25$dip@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Recently I have begun to see a lot of the following messages on the
console of my slab:
spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110
spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110
spurious DMA interrupt: channel 0x2000110
spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110
Apart from the messages, things seem to be functioning as normal - has
anyone got a clue what they mean? Am I heading for trouble?
Thanks,
Ben.
--
______________________________________________________________________
Ben Moseley bm10009@cus.cam.ac.uk ** NeXTmail OK **
______________________________________________________________________
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: dual processor hardware ? cirrus 5426 2mb ?
Date: 24 Oct 1994 16:02:25 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <38glqh$adp@news.tuwien.ac.at>
anybody using dual processor hardware ???
(does NeXTStep support these boards? speed-up?)
how about the cirrus 5426 vlb 2mb graphics adapter? 16-bit color,
resolutions?
pls. mail directly to smantler@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at !!
thanks,
-SM
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3rd Party Internal HD's for 040 Cube?
Date: 24 Oct 1994 16:51:29 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <38gomh$9r@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
I searched through the NeXT FAQ, NeXTAnswers, and the giant NA dir tree from
next.com, and was unable to find any listing of hard disks that are compatible
and recommended as replacement disks for 040 NeXTs. I wish to buy a 500Mb -
1Gb disk to replace the internal one which died yesterday. Is there such a
list somewhere?
Thanks in advance!
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: djc@vnp.com (Dan Crimmins)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
In-Reply-To: Charles William Swiger's message of Sun, 23 Oct 1994 14: 54:34 -0400
Message-ID: <DJC.94Oct24114938@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: VNP Software, Inc.
References: <Iief5eK00iVCA30bIa@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 17:49:38 GMT
In article <Iief5eK00iVCA30bIa@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> The workstation world has been using SCSI for years. Heck, even the
> Macs now use SCSI instead of some proprietary interface.
exsqueeze me? macs have been using SCSI since the mac plus came out in,
what, 1986? in fact, every mac since has been SCSI-based, until now.
with the new power macs, apple has bowed to economic pressures and is
using cheaper IDE drives internally, while still providing a SCSI bus
externally.
--dan.
--
dan crimmins
vnp software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: djc@vnp.com (Dan Crimmins)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
In-Reply-To: Charles William Swiger's message of Mon, 24 Oct 1994 01: 44:04 -0400
Message-ID: <DJC.94Oct24115827@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: VNP Software, Inc.
References: <QieoaYq00iVCQ8jRIT@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 17:58:27 GMT
In article <QieoaYq00iVCQ8jRIT@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> SCSI _is_ superior, as you'll discover if you try looking up the
> specifications for the two standards. SCSI beats IDE on the following
> technical points:
granted. it's also irrelevant, as i believe philip is trying to point out.
IDE beats SCSI on the following non-technical point:
(a) $$$$$$$
it's cheaper to make. it's cheaper to buy. it's cheaper to sell. that means
that the mass market isn't gonna five a damn about points (a)-(d) in your
original post, when it means they have to pay $50-$100 more for their computer.
is IDE the best thing for us power-NEXTSTEP users? no way. does that mean
everyone in the world is gonna chuck IDE (or EIDE) for SCSI? no way.
--dan.
--
dan crimmins
vnp software
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for quality cases and power supplies for Intel systems
Message-ID: <Cy55u6.4Iv@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <Cxuv1B.F2w@eskimo.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 19:51:41 GMT
Too bad Sony doesn't make a black 20SE1!
Robert La Ferla
HTI
In article <Cxuv1B.F2w@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
writes:
> Brian Hess (bnh@active.com) wrote:
> : Marc Salvatori (salvo@eskimo.com) wrote:
> : : If you *really* want quality in design and materials, consider PC
> : : Power & Cooling, Inc.'s product line. You can reach them at
> : : (800)722-6555, or (619)931-5700.
>
> : And to clinch the deal, they sell their cases in charcoal black,
too!
>
> Yep. That's what my tower is: A sheep in wolf's clothing. ;-)
>
>
> --
> >< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper, searching for communications,
><
> >< salvo@eskimo.com | word processing, and graphics packages
><
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn)
Subject: Re: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE!
Message-ID: <Cy6vEp.B2v@nvc.cc.ca.us>
Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us
Organization: Napa Valley College
References: <1994Oct24.021034.5780@news.media.mit.edu> <38fflv$5so@nntp.stanford.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 18:01:37 GMT
In article <38fflv$5so@nntp.stanford.edu>,
Todd Takken <takken@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>But the people at Quix don't answer their email, and Dancing Bear has
>stopped carrying Daydream. Does DayDream still exist? If so, does it
>have sound?
They don't seem to answer their phones either. I'm still trying to get
version 1.46.
--
Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130
Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063
2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558
<fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated
From: nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu (Duc T. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 16:16:23 -0500
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <nguyen05-241094161623@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>
References: <38bfgl$icn@netnews.upenn.edu>
More info can be obtained about Quix' Daydream product by e-mailing Dancing
Bear's InfoAccess.
Simply e-mail to: infoaccess@dancingbear.com
And request (for subject of mail): daydream
No text needs to be included in the body, as the system only scans the
subject headings. There's also a "daydream faq" that you can receive the
same way.
====
QUESTION!
1. For those who have posted that Dancing Bear is no longer carying the
Daydream product, are you sure? Their InfoAccess system still has the
daydream/daydream faq files.
2. How many versions of Daydream have there been? I'm under the impression
that it still does not support sound, and color is poor. Is this still
true?
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 16:26:08 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Aif1VUW00iV148TppZ@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <DJC.94Oct24114938@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 24-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Dan Crimmins@vnp.com
> In article <Iief5eK00iVCA30bIa@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger
> <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> > The workstation world has been using SCSI for years. Heck, even the
> > Macs now use SCSI instead of some proprietary interface.
>
> exsqueeze me?
How hard? :-)
> macs have been using SCSI since the mac plus came out in,
> what, 1986? in fact, every mac since has been SCSI-based, until now.
Prior to that, Apple used a drive bus controller chip called the IWM
(Integrated Wozinak Machine), which was later replaced by the SIWM
(Super IWM). I believe the SIWM is still being used as the floppy
controller, but I could be wrong.
> with the new power macs, apple has bowed to economic pressures and is
> using cheaper IDE drives internally, while still providing a SCSI bus
> externally.
So what? I made no claims that SCSI was cheaper than IDE-- I just
claimed it's technically superior. And note, these new Macs still
provide external SCSI.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: saman@tcs.com (Saman Behtash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT monitor in a PC system
Date: 24 Oct 1994 23:17:56 GMT
Organization: Teknekron Communication Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38hfb4$bs9@tcsi.tcs.com>
This may be a FAQ; I apologize if the answer is well known.
Does anyone know how/if a NeXT 17" color monitor can work
as a PC monitor? Also, if you have tried this and it doesn't
work I would be interested to know why.
Thanks very much,
S. Behtash
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: NEXTSTEP on HP PA-RISC Hardware
Message-ID: <1994Oct25.001910.25124@mixcom.com>
Sender: news@mixcom.com (Net News Admin)
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milw, WI (414) 351-1139
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 00:19:10 GMT
NetLand,
It is a good time for us to 'renew' our hardware, so I am thinking of replacing
all of our black hardware with HPs (712's). So I hear they are fast, and they are
hot. So what don't you like about them?
Have you experienced many problems with the PA-RISC version of NEXTSTEP?
What about cross-platform development? We never had much problems with the INTEL
ports, only one of our programs required a bit of 'tuning' to make it work just
right. Is the same true for HPs?
---
Alberto Ricart
SmartSoft, Inc.
2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: freeband@netcom.com (Nick Porcaro)
Subject: Wanted: NeXT monitor cable -- 3 ft or more long
Message-ID: <freebandCy7CqM.95t@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 00:15:57 GMT
Hi net-oids,
I need to get a monitor cable for my NeXTSTATION
3 feet or more would be great.
- Nick
(please respond by e-mail)
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 24 Oct 1994 22:56:31 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38he2v$osh@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <Iief5eK00iVCA30bIa@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <Iief5eK00iVCA30bIa@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 22-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
>support by Philip McDunnough@utstat
>> I don't agree with this thinking at all. The world is moving towards EIDE,
>
>The workstation world has been using SCSI for years. Heck, even the
>Macs now use SCSI instead of some proprietary interface. IDE and EIDE
>are inferior to SCSI, and I expect them to die off as a viable
>standard-- the sooner, the better.
IDE is a funny thing. If it weren't for some brain dead stuff at the
beginning (where it shot itself in the foot in three places in
the spec) it could have been better.
Anyway, as far as I know EIDE performs as fast as, and in some cases
faster that SCSI. SCSI is better because of the expandable nature
of the bus, and the genericity. This could be inaccurate though, or
good only for our favorite uni-processing operating systems.
How many IDE machines are out there? Bajillions. Is it cheaper than
SCSI? Yes. You can buy an IDE card for $10, and remember, we're all
using IDE on our floppy drives. I think that with this in mind, IDE
will be with us for a while still.
At least as long as people are using their sound cards to read SCSI
CD-ROMs. Is it just me, or doesn't that feel like using your ear
to read a book ;-)?
- db
--
Oh my God! The dead have risin and they're voting Republican! -- Bart -- Your
conscience tells you to vote Democratic but secretly you want a Republican to
lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule over you like a king! -- Sideshow
Bob -- Dom Perignon '54, sir. In a pint mug, as requested. -- Lister's Butler
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 5400 RPM disks and other musings...
Date: 24 Oct 1994 23:05:49 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38hekd$pbd@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <Aif1VUW00iV148TppZ@andrew.cmu.edu>
Regarding my previous report about newfs -v -n -r 5400... I could
not replicate the original findings. Either my original hard disk
was more damaged then I thought, or there is something affecting
things that I can't put my finger on. I got email from someone at
NeXT telling me that my original premise was incorrect (-r 5400
making a difference) but when I asked him what else could produce
the same results, I got no reply.
Thanks.
Anyway, that aside, I did discover something else in combination with
Nathan Janette and the good people at Seagate. It seems that Seagate
drives ship with their write caches turned off. Quite a few other
drives seem to ship like this. Turning the cache on is a software
setting, so you need to be running either DOS or HPUX if you want
to turn on the caches. You can download the DOS software for doing
this from:
hasc.ca:/pub/barracuda/*
Notes:
- These utilities require an ASPI (A SCSI standard from Adaptec)
driver. Most SCSI controllers have these, though you might
have to go to a BBS to find one. I have a JCIS machine that
shipped with the DOS ASPI driver on a floppy.
- This has been verified to work with a Fujutsu drive, as well
as Seagate Barracuda and Hawk drives. Since it uses ASPI it
should work with most if not all ASPI aware drives.
- It would be nice if NeXT gave us an ASPI aware utility that
could do this.
- Apparently the reason for shipping with the write cache turned
off is for compatibility with some old DOS programs and is
a "marketing" decision.
So, if you're experiencing slow writes, give this a shot.
Oh, one final note. 'disk' indeed has a bug which has it report
3600 RPM no matter what the real RPM is. However, it seems that
nothing else uses the RPM number in the filesystem on non-black
hardware.
- db
--
Oh my God! The dead have risin and they're voting Republican! -- Bart -- Your
conscience tells you to vote Democratic but secretly you want a Republican to
lower taxes, brutalize criminals, and rule over you like a king! -- Sideshow
Bob -- Dom Perignon '54, sir. In a pint mug, as requested. -- Lister's Butler
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:27:47 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4if7gnG00iV7MC6bQ4@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <DJC.94Oct24115827@nwk122_ocachi.vnp.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 24-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Dan Crimmins@vnp.com
> IDE beats SCSI on the following non-technical point:
>
> (a) $$$$$$$
>
> it's cheaper to make. it's cheaper to buy. it's cheaper to sell.
Really? Honest hard drive resellers charge the same amount of money
(maybe $10 more) for the SCSI & (E)IDE versions of a drive.
Imbedded SCSI controllers aren't noticably more expensive than EIDE
controllers of the same quality.
> that means that the mass market isn't gonna five a damn about points (a)-(d)
> in your original post, when it means they have to pay $50-$100 more for their
> computer.
A more reaonable cost assessment is about $20-30. Considering that SCSI
allows one to effortlessly move drives and other devices around
(possibly saving the cost of an extra controller for a CD-ROM drive or a
tape unit), SCSI's technical superiority makes it a far more cost
efficient choice.
> is IDE the best thing for us power-NEXTSTEP users? no way.
Agree.
> does that mean everyone in the world is gonna chuck IDE (or EIDE) for SCSI?
> no way.
We're talking about NEXTSTEP users, not everyone in the world (although
I will maintain that (E)IDE should be discarded as a standard).
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 24 Oct 1994 23:56:31 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <38hvlf$hsn@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <4if7gnG00iV7MC6bQ4@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: Really? Honest hard drive resellers charge the same amount of money
: (maybe $10 more) for the SCSI & (E)IDE versions of a drive.
Micropolis charges the same for the EIDE and Fast SCSI-2 versions of the
4110.
: We're talking about NEXTSTEP users, not everyone in the world (although
: I will maintain that (E)IDE should be discarded as a standard).
Let's not ignore reality. 98% of systems from major vendors come with
EIDE drives. A person wanting to put NeXTSTEP on their new system will
reconsider when told he/she will have to chuck that nice, fast 1gb drive
that came with their system. Not everyone can purchase systems
specifically with NeXTSTEP in mind. Yes, SCSI is superior, but we're
dealing with commodity PC's, and to an assembler like Gateway, Zeos,
Dell, etc, every penny counts. How difficult/costly would it be for NeXT
to fully support EIDE drives? I suspect not very. By not supporting this
STANDARD, NeXT is only hurting it's own chances for success.
- Jay
From: dkramer@localhost.onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 8 tries so far
Date: 25 Oct 1994 04:57:43 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <38i387$jei@news.onramp.net>
References: <38csib$kpm@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
In article <38csib$kpm@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross
Garrett Cutler) writes:
> Steve K Hunter (shunter@cais2.cais.com) wrote:
> [...]
> : Not having much luck here, does anybody have an
> : FAQ for install problems ?
>
> I assume your IDE is extended IDE (EIDE), which NeXT doesn't support
yet.
> You might want to try just using the first 500MB for NS, and if that
> works, use the latter 200MB for DOS. If it doesn't work, try disabling
> EIDE to IDE (if possible).
> --
> Ross Cutler
> University of Maryland, College Park
> Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
It gets even worse than that, I think. You can't use a 500 MB IDE
partition for NS, you actually have to go into the BIOS setup and adjust
the drive config info to less than 512MB. There is an 'IDE issues'
NeXTAnswers document that details this - I'll check it and may post more
details later. Good luck - I ended up selling the drive and going with a
gig SCSI drive. They're getting pretty cheap...
Dan Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
I finally got the SLIP up - I'm back!
(713) 531-7959
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: freeband@netcom.com (Nick Porcaro)
Subject: Any problems with 1.6 GB disks on a slab?
Message-ID: <freebandCy7pKt.DIw@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 04:53:17 GMT
I am considering purchase of a 1.6 GB disk to put in my slab
Anyone tried this?
- Nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Message-ID: <Cy7rtr.E6G@world.std.com>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <3881gc$q5d@news.xs4all.nl> <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> <Cy3D8J.AqM@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 05:41:50 GMT
In article <Cy3D8J.AqM@utstat.toronto.edu>,
Philip McDunnough <phillip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote:
>In article <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>
>[ ]
>
>>NEXTSTEP doesn't support EIDE and I don't think it ever should. Just
>>'cause NEXTSTEP runs on PCs doesn't mean that NeXT should devote
>>resources to support every crummy PC standard out there. If you are
>>dealing with disks larger than 500mb, get a SCSI card. It just doesn't
>>make sense to spend $$$ on a system and cripple it so. It's amazing
>>the number of PC purchasers that spend $500 on the CPU, $400 on the
>>video board, but won't spend more than $20 on the disk controller.
>>
>>NEXTSTEP is a workstation OS. The machine it runs on should be configured
>>as such.
NeXTstep does well at SOME tasks that workstations do, but I would not
limit its application to "a workstation OS." It can be used anywhere
other UNIX systems go, including servers and controllers. The run time
license is not out of line with other UNIX systems (hell, if youve ever
purchased a development license for MOTIF builder tools NeXTstep is a
WAY inexpensive solution) and with the object oriented run time environment
it is likely to end up in a lot of different places. Many of those places
are not going to be disk intensive.
>I don't agree with this thinking at all. The world is moving towards EIDE,
>and it won't be just a matter of a $20 difference for the disk controller.
>Keep forcing NS to run on expensive equipment and you'll doom it. It will
>indeed become a MCOS with a lifespan of minutes.
Before we start another senseless religious war, Id like to ask the
following questions..
A: How robust is the SCSI support in NS? I have this fuzzy recollection
of articles talking about the drivers only supporting asynchronous
transfer. Also, does it properly support disconnect/reconnect and
command queuing? If it goes this far, will striping be in 3.3?
B: Will the next generation 2.5" disks (at 500MB now, to be 1G in the
future) be EIDE drives?
PCI EIDE controllers do DMA, so you loose much of the overhead lost to
programmed IO in IDE. PCI SCSI controllers on the other hand are getting
dirt cheap, and with drives doing better than 10MB/sec to the platters,
high end folks will be getting PCI controllers and disks capable of running
at those rates.. If youre deploying 10,000 of these things to sit where
3270s once sat, and your bidding competatively, you may not be one of those
high end folks :->
As for portables (I know 640x480 rots, but we've all had to do the projection
set demo in someone elses conference room at 1024x768, and just couldnt haul
in a full size tower :-), it would seem that EIDE would be the logical way
to go, as its more likely to be in the box and in the power budget from the
manufacturer.
I see choice as a good thing. DECs 21040 can easily saturate an Ethernet,
and I expect to see NS 3.3 pushing a card with this chip at wire speed.
I expect to see a fast/wide SCSI card that can push 20MB/sec onto high
end drives. I expect these two cards to cost around $400, which for a high
end system is pretty cheap. If I dont see these things, its more likely
to be a limitation of NeXTs drivers than the hardware (yes, yes, assuming
you have the disk drives and a 90MHz Pentium behind it..). EIDE with DMA may
be no match, but I expect to have the choice to use it in systems where
price is far more critical than raw performance, which is a LOT more often
than power users realize (ironic, considering how many power users see a
load average of 0.0x most of the time :-) <<<--- NOTE SMILEY
>--
>Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
>[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
-Steve
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Supporting multiprocessor platforms under NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <848@moene.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: 24 Oct 94 18:57:05 GMT
References: <1994Oct20.114829.30618@cc.usu.edu>
Sender: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl
Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
In article <1994Oct20.114829.30618@cc.usu.edu> mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu
(mike emmel) writes:
[ ... Reformatted, but typos preserved ... ]
> I noted your signature and it seems to me NeXT has unwittingly opened
> itself up to a new market. Numerical simulations. I don't know how many
> workstations are sold to do simulations in chemistry,physics,math, and
> engineering but I would suspect a vast majority. One of the most
> important factors to Numerical methods is floating point speed. Another
> is these methods are often readily parrellized. The simpilest way to
> sovle these problems is smp. Thus the intrest. Sun knows this why do you
> thinks they still have a large market share even though they don't have
> the fastest prosccesor. I like NeXT because I'm able to quickly program
> a gui for my numerical methods and I hate X.
> The question is; Is NeXT going to support and go after the Workstation
> market for numerical methods are not?
> 1.) No fortran compilier for the HP.
> 2.) No Numerical methods classes.
> 3.) No smp.
> 4.) No Examples of distributed numerical methods (what happened to Zilla
> can you release the source?)
> 5.) No ability to interact simply with Unix macines not running NeXTStep
> i.e (CRAY) so forget distributed objects.
> Therfore I don't think NeXT has any real intrest in this market.
Pah, NeXT can't dictate what I do or don't with my Black Hardware anymore
- they've discontinued the stuff ;-)
I don't mind running numerical models overnight to get some results -
results I have to wait for all day during 'working hours' on our Convex
(no Real Programmer works Nine-to-Five, unless it's the ones at night :-)
In fact, this goes quite well; I can use debugging methods that suit me,
and because I have to use freely available Fortran compilers, I spot
portability problems much earlier than most others :-) :-)
By The Way: The real reason things take a whole night is that I only have
14 Mbyte of memory - running anything remotely resembling the Real World
is mostly an excercise in disk I/O ;-)
And oh, before I forget - I do have access to a Cray C90/16 - the one at
the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasting. Don't bother,
it's full to the hilt, too :-(
OK, enough rambling for today - back to discussing the virtual reality of
Intel's progeny - mind your IRQ's.
--
Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl)
Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
Phone: +31 3461 4290; Fax: +31 3461 4286
No Disclaimer: I claim, therefore I am.
From: raj@teleport.com (Raymond A Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS and NexGen
Date: 24 Oct 1994 22:44:32 -0700
Organization: None
Message-ID: <38i600$b71@sandra.teleport.com>
Will NS/I run on NexGen NX586 based machines?
Anyone have any experience with these computers?
thanks
--
raj@teleport.com
"Never do today what can be put off till tomorrow"
From: hacker@access4.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: My cube won't even TRY to boot (resolution)...
Date: 25 Oct 1994 03:16:32 -0400
Organization: Fortress Of Computation
Message-ID: <38ibcg$fv7@access4.digex.net>
Hey everybody thanks for your replies! I left the NeXT powered off overnight
and rebooted the next morning and it worked! Apparentlyÿ just giving it a rest
cleared the EEPROM or something. I'm back up with no ill effects.
- Hacker
--
Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us
"Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on *Daydream*, PLEASE!
Date: 25 Oct 1994 07:37:12 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38icj8$rcv@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <nguyen05-241094161623@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>
In article <nguyen05-241094161623@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>
nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu (Duc T. Nguyen) writes:
> 1. For those who have posted that Dancing Bear is no longer carying the
> Daydream product, are you sure?
Tim Griswold told me via email that his company, Dancing Bear, is no
longer carrying DayDream. I won't go into the reasons he stated. He can
post that if he chooses.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Message-ID: <bchin.783008507@news.andi.org>
Keywords: Enhanced IDE
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> <Cy3D8J.AqM@utstat.toronto.edu> <bchin.782893096@news.andi.org> <Cy5rAC.6s7@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 14:21:47 GMT
phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <bchin.782893096@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>>NS requires "expensive" hardware. No way around that right now. If people
>>are buying P90's for $3500-$6000, why skimp on $150? EIDE under NEXTSTEP
>>performs much worse than SCSI. On a machine that costs that much, why
>>unbalance the configuration that much?
>NS does not require expensive hardware,
You're right, NS can run on a $1400 486. However, most people running
NS are buying Pentiums and spending > $3.5k on them. In this context,
skimping on something as crucial as disk I/O doesn't make sense, especially
since you can't just convert your IDE disks into SCSI easily.
> and local bus IDE is very good and
>causes fewer hassles when running NS.
Huh? What if you lose the setup information? Which geometry translation
did I use? What about connecting more than two devices? What if I buy
a drive that doesn't do it's translation the way NS expects? What if
I want to buy another manufacturer's IDE drive and the slave/master
between the drives doesn't work? What if I want to use a Syquest,
MO, CD-ROM, scanner, DAT, or or a big hard drive (> 1gig)?
> I happen to run NS quite nicely on a
>cheap no-name clone of sorts.
I have one too. (AMD 486DX 40mhz)
> It's fast than my Cube was (and I'm "only"
>using a 486) and I see no need to rush into the PCI/P90 bandwagon while
>PCI has only fairly recently been sorted out.
This isn't a PCI issue. It's a disk architecture issue. Matter of fact,
for a slower CPU, it's even more crucial. You don't have as much CPU
power to burn on micro-managing the hard drive. After all, a NeXTstation
turbo has about the same horsepower as my AMD 486/40.
> I have no idea where this myth
>of the superiority of SCSI comes from, but one thing is sure: you do not need
>$4000US to run NS, and the difference between EIDE and a PCI SCSI solution
>is far more than $150.
It's not a myth. Compare two identical systems except for disk subsystems
(even using the same drive mechanism) and check out performance.
Especially as you start swapping or putting load on the system. I have.
The difference is quite noticeable. Running DOS, the EIDE system
may very well be faster than a local bus SCSI system.
There is no price difference on many EIDE & SCSI drives... If there is,
some SCSI drives are cheaper, some EIDE drives are cheaper... we're talking
$5-10. EIDE either comes on the motherboard, or you can buy it for $30.
PCI SCSI is $195 + 50 driver, sometimes just $195 depending on the
manufactuere you buy from. I was referring to using a DPT 2021,
and that's $153 new (check out the Internet Shopping Network). The
difference is $153 or $123. Plus your SCSI drive will work when you
decide to upgrade to an Intel PCI or workstation system.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Help: Mac won't boot if connected to an external scsi drive.
Message-ID: <Cy7o97.5tn@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 04:24:43 GMT
Hi. I am sorry for posting in this newsgroup but I don't know of a similar one
for mac hardware. Here's is my problem:
I am working with a Mac iici with a Quantum 105 internal drive.
Everything works fine if I just use the internal drive.
When I connect an external drive, the computer won't boot (the icon asking for
a system disk shows up)
What's wrong with it? A bad scsi cable or something worse...?
If you have any ideas about what is going on, please let me know.
Thanks for your time
bye,
Ze Tomas.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (mmalcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Any problems with 1.6 GB disks on a slab?
Date: 25 Oct 1994 06:46:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <941025114519.238AACUf.malc@jeeves>
: I am considering purchase of a 1.6 GB disk to put in my slab
: Anyone tried this?
:
In case it helps -- not quite, but I have a 1GB disk in "mine", and it works
fine.
Unless you have good reason for wanting a new internal disk (e.g. you;re
replacing a dud), though, I would personally suggest simply buying an external
box, since this gives you more flexibility later.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:42:02 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <gifDoO600iUvI1_ToO@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38hvlf$hsn@anshar.shadow.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 24-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Jay Fuchs@anshar.shadow.
> Let's not ignore reality. 98% of systems from major vendors come with
> EIDE drives.
What's your source for the "98%"?
(BTW, I assume you mean "Intel systems", as well, since SCSI is standard
with every workstation vendor and the Macs use SCSI.)
> How difficult/costly would it be for NeXT to fully support EIDE drives?
> I suspect not very. By not supporting this STANDARD, NeXT is only hurting
> it's own chances for success.
You could say the same thing about NeXT not supporting ISA video, but if
you understand the technical considerations, this decision makes sense.
Anyway, I can recall a post from someone at NeXT stating that supporting
EIDE was hard (for whatever reasons)-- if they could do it easily,
they'd presumably make it "just work".
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:33:15 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <kifDg=y00iUv01_TJX@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Cy7rtr.E6G@world.std.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Stephen E Halpin@world.s
> A: How robust is the SCSI support in NS? I have this fuzzy recollection
> of articles talking about the drivers only supporting asynchronous
> transfer.
That's true for black hardware. I believe that Intel/HP boxes can do
sync, but no doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong. :-)
> Also, does it properly support disconnect/reconnect
Yes.
> and command queuing?
I believe so.
> If it goes this far, will striping be in 3.3?
Good question...ask NeXT.
> B: Will the next generation 2.5" disks (at 500MB now, to be 1G in the
> future) be EIDE drives?
Probably.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:53:44 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <gifDzM200iUvE1_FR_@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38he2v$osh@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 24-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
> Anyway, as far as I know EIDE performs as fast as, and in some cases
> faster that SCSI. SCSI is better because of the expandable nature
> of the bus, and the genericity. This could be inaccurate though, or
> good only for our favorite uni-processing operating systems.
EIDE does compare pretty well with SCSI-1, true-- at least when you only
are accessing one drive at a time. When you consider accesses to
multiple devices, SCSI's disconnect/reconnect results in a very
significant improvement in total throughput.
> At least as long as people are using their sound cards to read SCSI
> CD-ROMs. Is it just me, or doesn't that feel like using your ear
> to read a book ;-)?
Yeah. Unfortunately, these "SCSI" sound cards aren't very...they
(generally) use a gelded controller chip that doesn't support more than
one device, has absolutely terrible throughput (since they're intended
to handle 150K/s - 600K/s CD-ROM drives with 150+ ms access times), and
IMHO aren't particularly well designed.
They're also one of the silliest ideas around. Instead of putting a
half-implemented SCSI port on a sound card and having an IDE drive card,
why not get a good SCSI controller card and save yourself the trouble?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 25 Oct 1994 03:55:10 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38hviu$q58@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <bchin.782893096@news.andi.org>
In article <bchin.782893096@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin) writes:
> NS requires "expensive" hardware. No way around that right now.
While that was once true, one can now purchase a 486-66
system that will run color and be faster in some ways than
black hardware, yet cost only $2,500.
> If people are buying P90's for $3500-$6000, why skimp on $150?
Many PC buyers are ignorant of the advantages of SCSI over
IDE/EIDE. If NEXTSTEP doesn't support it as an option,
who do you think will lose the most? The NEXTSTEP/Intel
port must be inclusive of common PC hardware.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 25 Oct 1994 11:45:46 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <38j97a$1ab@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <gifDoO600iUvI1_ToO@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: (BTW, I assume you mean "Intel systems", as well, since SCSI is standard
: with every workstation vendor and the Macs use SCSI.)
NeXTSTEP doesn't run on Macs, so that isn't an issue. We're talking about
PC hardware from major vendors. Almost all come with IDE.
: > How difficult/costly would it be for NeXT to fully support EIDE drives?
: > I suspect not very. By not supporting this STANDARD, NeXT is only hurting
: > it's own chances for success.
: You could say the same thing about NeXT not supporting ISA video, but if
: you understand the technical considerations, this decision makes sense.
One difference: You'd be hard-pressed to find a system manufactured in
the past two years with ISA video (they've all got some type of local
bus). On the other hand, most 486/Pentiums come with onboard PCI EIDE.
Sure, EIDE will be a little slower, but it's a lot more economical. You
can't get around that. The assertions that SCSI doesn't add much
to system cost are absurd. I had to spend $300 on a PCI SCSI card,
when there was a perfectly good PCI IDE controller on my motherboard.
I had to spend an additional $650 to replace the perfectly good (and very
fast) 1gb IDE drive that came with my new system with an equivalent SCSI.
Sure, I can do more things with SCSI, but I don't like being forced to
pay for technology I don't necessarily need.
- Jay
From: john@delta.success.net (John Banghart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Card Problems
Date: 25 Oct 1994 17:09:44 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <38je4o$l83@uuneo.neosoft.com>
I have an ATI card with 1 meg ram. Yes, it is a compatible card using the
BT ramdac chip. Hence, I should be able to get 800x600 16 bit color.
However, even though when it boots up it says I am going into into
800x600, it comes up into 640x480. Oddly enough, the same card allows my
colleague to boot up into 1024x768 on a similar type machine.
Any suggestions would be useful. I have called tech support and they were
not able to help me.
I am using 3.2. Is there an updated driver ATI Ultra Pro driver around
anywhere?
-John
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does CANON 150 Portables work with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 25 Oct 1994 16:46:16 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <38jcoo$821@news.onramp.net>
References: <1994Oct20.011934.5565@mixcom.com>
In article <1994Oct20.011934.5565@mixcom.com> alberto@smartsoft.com
(Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes:
> Is anyone using a portable with NEXTSTEP. I NEED to buy one of these
things, and
> I want to make sure that I get the right thing. NeXTanswers only lists
the
> Compact and NEC as the only two portables. This cannot be right.
Unfortunately, it's pretty close... I know it seems unbelievable, but
hopefully things will change fairly soon. There should be more machines
that work, whether or not the cert list is updated from the current Old
Testament version.
>
> Today I saw a nice CANON 150? portable. It had a faily nice display and
while on
> the hefty side, it may do the job. Does anyone know if this thing will
run
> NEXTSTEP?
Probably, at least in grayscale... if it has a Western Digital 90C24 video
controller, or any of its flavors, it will probably run 8-bit color under
NS3.3.
>
> What are good NEXTSTEP portables?
If you are looking for a color laptop under 3.2, the Talus T-100 is the
only available choice, with on-board sound and good driver support.
They can be reached at info@talus.com, or (713) 578-1434.
>
>
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
dkramer@onramp.net
* not affiliated with Talus * (or NEC, or NeXT, or my ex-wife, or Jimmy
Hoffa)
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI hardware
Date: 25 Oct 1994 17:03:58 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <38jdpu$8ja@news.onramp.net>
References: <38dq6t$op0@DoBag.IN-Berlin.DE>
In article <38dq6t$op0@DoBag.IN-Berlin.DE> roland@dobag.in-berlin.de
(Roland Becker) writes:
> Hi!
>
> Is the ATI Ultra PRO PCI graphics enhancer supported by Nextstep
> for Intel?
Depends. ATI's naming scheme sometimes escapes me (although it's not
nearly as bad as Intel's :-) Neptune, Premier, Zeus, Purple, 24, hike,
hike, hike) Talus has drivers for most iterations of the Mach32 cards (I
think all of the PCI versions, actually), and the Mach 64, too. Try
info@talus.com, or (713) 578-1434
>What about the Buslogic fastscsi-II PCI hostadapter?
I think it's planned for 3.3, but the only PCI SCSI running at the moment
is the NCR, with the driver from Talus...(and the Adaptec 2940 is in the
current version of 3.3, but they don't tell me what other drivers are
coming down the pike...)
>
> Regards,
>
> Roland Becker
>
> e-mail: roland@dobag.in-berlin.de
Cheers!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
dkramer@onramp.net
*not affiliated with anybody, dammit*
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 13:16:39 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <MifHprG00iV4Q3JqsT@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38j97a$1ab@anshar.shadow.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Jay Fuchs@anshar.shadow.
> The assertions that SCSI doesn't add much to system cost are absurd.
Offer a refutation, then.
> I had to spend $300 on a PCI SCSI card, when there was a perfectly good PCI
> IDE controller on my motherboard. I had to spend an additional $650 to
> replace the perfectly good (and very fast) 1gb IDE drive that came with my
> new system with an equivalent SCSI.
So what? The fact that you purchased a system with an built-in IDE
controller and a fast IDE drive and then had to upgrade to SCSI proves
nothing about whether SCSI is more or less expensive than IDE.
Fact: SCSI hard drives cost the same as EIDE drives.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Plato P90 and NeXTSTEP - problems!
Date: 25 Oct 1994 18:52:26 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38jk5a$aa2@news.onramp.net>
References: <38g61v$o2s@ccnet.ccnet.com>
In article <38g61v$o2s@ccnet.ccnet.com> johns@ccnet.com (John Stephens)
writes:
> Chris Wolf (chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu) wrote:
>
> : I have had absolutely NO luck getting NeXTSTEP running on this system
> : though. In every case described below NeXTSTEP starts to boot,
> : displays messages that it is reading the appropriate config/Default0
> : tables, displays messages that it is loading the appropriate device
> : drivers, and then displays "Starting NeXTSTEP..." in the diagnostic
> : output and hangs there forever with no error messages, no disk
> : activity, nothing.
> Try disabling all IRQs in the AMI BIOS setup program. Just set it to
> "Used by ISA Card" for all of them. I believe one has to be available,
so
> set them all to "Used by ISA Card" except for 9, 10, or 11; just one of
> those three.
>
The board _will_ work, honest. I have running here, and didn't have to
play with IRQs or anything...much. Perhaps you just need the right BIOS?
Version 10 is the latest, and runs the best of the 5 versions I've tried
(ugg). If you have any trouble getting the update utility and the new
version, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Luck -
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
(713) 531-7959
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 25 Oct 1994 15:23:37 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <38jlvp$6dn@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <MifHprG00iV4Q3JqsT@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: > I had to spend $300 on a PCI SCSI card, when there was a perfectly good PCI
: > IDE controller on my motherboard. I had to spend an additional $650 to
: > replace the perfectly good (and very fast) 1gb IDE drive that came with my
: > new system with an equivalent SCSI.
: So what? The fact that you purchased a system with an built-in IDE
: controller and a fast IDE drive and then had to upgrade to SCSI proves
: nothing about whether SCSI is more or less expensive than IDE.
You're right. It has nothing to do with whether SCSI is more or less
expensive. It has to do with whether NeXTSTEP is more or less expensive.
Look at what's being sold by major manufacturers: mostly it's IDE.
The fact is that without EIDE support, you're making the decision to
switch to NeXTSTEP a lot more costly. Not everyone has the luxury of
buying a system specifically configured for NS. Many companies like
Gateway offer scant SCSI options, and will only deduct about $300 from
the system price for a 1gb EIDE drive. Now you find me a $300 1gb Fast
SCSI-2 drive.
: Fact: SCSI hard drives cost the same as EIDE drives.
The drives themselves may cost (nearly) the same, but the controllers
certainly don't (and I'm referring to PCI controllers here). To me, spending
money to replace a controller already built into my motherboard automatically
makes SCSI more expensive. Now, when all Intel motherboards (that's what the
majority of Pentium systems use) come with an onboard PCI Fast SCSI-2
controller, things will be different.
Why all the bickering? Yes, I agree that SCSI is vastly superior to IDE.
Yes, the prices of SCSI drives are coming down. But no, it doesn't make
sense for NeXT to ignore a vital piece of hardware included with the vast
majority of PCs. You just have to look at the number of people who have
posted on c.s.n.* and the Intel Homebrew list about trying to get EIDE
drives working with NS to see that it IS a problem.
- Jay
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SOS - how to disable the internal drive in a CUBE?
Date: 25 Oct 1994 15:11:13 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Message-ID: <38jl8h$f7a@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu>
I no longer need this noisy 600 Mb hard drive in my CUBE so I am gonna
disable it. Please tell me if it is enough to unplug its powercord in the
Cube OR should I also unplug the SCSI caable from the drive OR should I also
unplug the SCSI cable from the mother board OR do I also need an internal
terminator? I do have a bunch of external SCSI devices hooked up.
Please respond by email and fast (if you can). Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: sarah@umbc.edu (Sarah Bernier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: wanted: mouse supplier
Date: 25 Oct 1994 21:20:22 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County
Message-ID: <38jsqm$bba@news.umbc.edu>
Help,
I'm desperate. I need the name of a Next mouse supplier.
part number 193 (I think)
Thank You,
Sarah
--
Sarah Bernier Operations Coordinator | BITNET : SARAH@UMBC2
Academic Computing Services - ECS 012H | Internet : SARAH@UMBC7.UMBC.EDU
Univ. of Maryland Baltimore County | Twisted Pair (410) 455-3663
Baltimore, MD 21228-5398 (U.S.A.) | <-- Snail Mail
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI NCR-SCSI Driver?
Date: 25 Oct 1994 19:54:42 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <38jnq2$bue@news.onramp.net>
References: <wesel.4.0014A470@ping.at>
In article <wesel.4.0014A470@ping.at> wesel@ping.at (WESEL Peter) writes:
> Is the NCR-SCSI for the PCI-Bus supported by NeXTStep for INTEL?
> If yes, where can i get this driver? (cost ?)
>
> Thanks to all who answer?
It's available from Talus, at info@talus.com - they also have quite a few
resellers, including a comprehensive international net.
Luck!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS and NexGen
Date: 25 Oct 1994 20:10:24 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <38jong$ug@rosie.next.com>
References: <38i600$b71@sandra.teleport.com>
In article <38i600$b71@sandra.teleport.com> raj@teleport.com (Raymond A
Jackson) writes:
>
> Will NS/I run on NexGen NX586 based machines?
> Anyone have any experience with these computers?
> thanks
Alas, the current generation of NexGen NX586 chips do not contain a
Floating Point Unit. There is some indication this will be provided in
their next generation chip set.
NEXTSTEP for Intel processors requires a 486 compatible FPU to run
properly.
======
I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal...
mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business mail only NeXT Mail OK
mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please
"It's a bad neighborhood, but the rent is cheap."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: v$imikeb@vnet.ibm.com (Mike Brown)
Subject: Re: Salvaging newly-dead HD in 68040 cube??
Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id)
Message-ID: <Cy8qqs.2C5o@austin.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 18:16:02 GMT
References: <38fdam$c95@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Organization: IBM OS/2 Commercial and Premier Software Developer Support
In message <38fdam$c95@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> - doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas
Scott) writes:
>Alas, the original 350 Mb hard drive in my 040 cube at home died tonight...
>I came in the room and the only sound coming from the machine was the sound of
>the ventillation fan -- the disk drive had stopped completely.
>
>The HD had been getting a bit noisy over the past year, but I figured it would
>just continue to get worse, and that I would have some warning so that I
>could have a new drive on order near the end.
>
>What are the chances that I will be able to get the drive to spin up again at
>least long enough to get my newest files off? Any suggestions on how to
>proceed?
>
Wow, mine just died in exactly the same way. When the system is powered
on, the drive made a REALLY nasty grinding noise then failed to spin
up. I took the plunge and bought a 540MB SCSI, reinstalled and put everything
I had backed up back on. What no SLIP backup? What no sendmail.cf backup?
Damn!
I've been told that Maxtor charges an arm and a leg to repair a drive and
if you want to save the data on it, you'd better figure out how to type with
your nose!
----------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Brown
OS/2 Application Developer Support
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 17:30:19 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wifLXfm00Uh_Q5yckd@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38jlvp$6dn@anshar.shadow.net>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by Jay Fuchs@anshar.shadow.
> Many companies like Gateway offer scant SCSI options, and will only deduct
> about $300 from the system price for a 1gb EIDE drive.
Well, buy from other companies and/or buy the individual pieces yourself.
> Now you find me a $300 1gb Fast SCSI-2 drive.
That's a strawman argument, Jay. It's hardly reasonable to compare the
bulk cost of a component in an integrated system from a major supplier
to the street price of the equivalent SCSI drive.
> But no, it doesn't make sense for NeXT to ignore a vital piece of hardware
> included with the vast majority of PCs.
Why not? :-) The vast majority of PCs are horribly unbalanced machines
with inadequate memory and I/O capacity (the Case/Amhdahl rule, I
believe). SCSI offers better I/O performance for simultaneous device
access, particularly if to different devices. This has quite an effect
upon a workstation-level operating system such as NEXTSTEP.
I'd much rather have NeXT work on other areas than have them spend time
trying to write (E)IDE device drivers, but sure: it'd be nice if
NEXTSTEP handled (E)IDE better.
> You just have to look at the number of people who have posted on c.s.n.* and
> the Intel Homebrew list about trying to get EIDE drives working with NS to
> see that it IS a problem.
Yeah, I can see we should've created a hardware.intel group-- IDE is not
an issue for two of the three NEXTSTEP platforms, nor will it be an
issue for other non-Intel platforms that NEXTSTEP/OpenStep/PDO/whatever
runs on.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardrives for Black hardware...
Date: 26 Oct 1994 00:38:30 GMT
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Message-ID: <38k8e6$8pq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I would encourage you to steer clear of IBM hard drives, especially the
IBM 0664CSH 4Gb drive. I have been trying to bring one of these drives up
on a Nextstation turbo running 3.2 without any luck at all. I've tried
everything. The drive is actually two drives which look like one, and that
is the only thing I can figure that is causing the problems I have. I've
been able to use the drive on a Mac and when I plugged it back into the Next,
it mounted one of the two partitions on the drive - but that's useless for
what I needed and I lose 2Gb to boot. So anyways, do not buy the IBM 0664CSH
and be careful of any IBM drive as they often require special reconfiguration
with a DOS utility to change settings stored on the drive, and the
configuration utility is extremely hard to come by unless you are a reseller.
I did not get this drive by choice, but after waiting ten months for a drive
from a disreputable dealer, I threatened legal action unless they sent me a
comparable drive to what I had ordered. Figures they'd get me one last time.
I have no more hope for making this combination work and hope this save someone
else a lot of wasted time.
--
James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
jpowell@scholar.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals
Archives: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://scholar.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Any problems with 1.6 GB disks on a slab?
Date: 26 Oct 1994 00:59:44 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38k9m0$ae9@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <freebandCy7pKt.DIw@netcom.com>
In article <freebandCy7pKt.DIw@netcom.com> freeband@netcom.com (Nick
Porcaro) writes:
> I am considering purchase of a 1.6 GB disk to put in my slab
> Anyone tried this?
It depends on the model. I first tried a 1.8 GB Quantum PD1800s, which
turned out to be incompatible with black hardware (it works on white.).
I'm now using a 1.7 GB Micropolis in my slab. It works fine.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 26 Oct 1994 02:35:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38kf9pINNnh3@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
References: <Iief5eK00iVCA30bIa@andrew.cmu.edu> <38he2v$osh@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <38he2v$osh@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
|>
|> IDE is a funny thing. If it weren't for some brain dead stuff at the
|> beginning (where it shot itself in the foot in three places in
|> the spec) it could have been better.
|>
|> Anyway, as far as I know EIDE performs as fast as, and in some cases
|> faster that SCSI. SCSI is better because of the expandable nature
|> of the bus, and the genericity. This could be inaccurate though, or
|> good only for our favorite uni-processing operating systems.
EIDE does perform as fast as or (due to lower overhead) often faster than
SCSI. Unfortunately, it does so with ridiculously high CPU loadings,
because the controllers have little in the way of brains and most all
data transfers are accomplished using PIO. If you want to do anything
else with your CPU while disk I/O is taking place, EIDE is not the right
answer. The better SCSI implementations support multiple outstanding I/O
requests, and use bus-mastering for data transfers. The CPU is left free
to contemplate other matters. Of course, you do pay for all the extra
brains on the host adapter. Since the PC market is highly cost-driven,
and oriented towards single-tasking users who derive no benefit from
SCSI, I'd expect EIDE to remain the dominant form of disk-controller
life :-)
|> How many IDE machines are out there? Bajillions. Is it cheaper than
|> SCSI? Yes. You can buy an IDE card for $10, and remember, we're all
|> using IDE on our floppy drives. I think that with this in mind, IDE
|> will be with us for a while still.
And you get a pretty decent free EIDE controller with every single
Neptune-based system on the market. If you're not sensitive to the
impacts on multitasking throughput, it's a great alternative.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Alternate mouse for black h/w?
Message-ID: <Cy97vB.3x0@research.canon.oz.au>
Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 00:25:59 GMT
We have quite a few "black" machines and a lot of the mousen are dying
(a variety of problems). Replacements seem to be too expensive so I
was wondering if anyone knows if there is an alternate mouse (e.g., a
PC mouse) that can be used. H/w modifications are okay (we're good at
that kind of thing;-). Can anybody assist?
--
Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au) (Not a Canon spokesperson)
"Read code? Code's to be written not read." - Ross Donelly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: New ZyXEL 28.8Kbdps and ISDN
Message-ID: <Cy591x.9s@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 21:01:08 GMT
Does anyone have any kind of information concerning a new ZyXEL modem that
would be 28.8Kbdps and could accept a ZyXEL add-on card to become a fully
ISDN card ?
One of my friends just told me that this ISDN-Modem ZyXEL should come out
in late january 95 for something like $1000.
I would love some more informations or even simply confirmations of that
and the possibility of drivers for NeXTSTEP.
Thanks a lot
---
Jacques GARBI
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 26 Oct 1994 04:59:28 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38knng$qnt@news.onramp.net>
References: <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org>
In article <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin) writes:
> NEXTSTEP doesn't support EIDE and I don't think it ever should. Just
> 'cause NEXTSTEP runs on PCs doesn't mean that NeXT should devote
> resources to support every crummy PC standard out there. If you are
> dealing with disks larger than 500mb, get a SCSI card. It just doesn't
> make sense to spend $$$ on a system and cripple it so. It's amazing
> the number of PC purchasers that spend $500 on the CPU, $400 on the
> video board, but won't spend more than $20 on the disk controller.
Bill,
You have spent a lot of time criticizing IDE HD's. I think it would be
nice if you would please explain why you think NS systems with IDE drives
are 'crippled'. First, we have gotten very respectable performance
results from some IDE drives and controller combinations. With the WD
drive and Intel PCI IDE controller mentioned from the previous post, we
get IOZone marks of 785K/sec write and 2Meg/sec read. This is *not* very
far off from the SCSI drives tested so far (~ 1.2MB/sec write and 2Meg/sec
read). For a standalone system (like most of the personal machines
discussed here), there is nothing crippled about these performance marks.
Also, the cost difference is a littel more than you describe. On most
high performance system boards, a 32-bit IDE controller of some kind is
included, so the cost is $0. A SCSI drive is typically more expensive
than an IDE drive and a good SCSI controller is upwards of $200. Given
this information, why should a consumer interested in purchasing an
inexpensive NS system be discouraged from buying an IDE hard disk
especially when he or she does not need a CDROM drive?
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cache size for NS/FIP on P/90?
Date: 26 Oct 1994 06:12:04 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38krvk$s37@news.onramp.net>
References: <3892s4$sjt@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <3892s4$sjt@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
> Is a 256K external processor cache enough for a 90 MHz Pentium
> running NS/FIP? Does having 512K make much difference?
>
> I see few systems listed with 512K, so I'm assuming that 256 is
> adequate. I assume that 512K is better, but is it significantly
> better?
Intel does *not* offer a 512K version of the Plato board. Many people
advertise a 512K version, but be careful, Intel will not support it
because they do not make such a thing. (maybe some companies are
modifying the board or something)
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: fritz@toklotum.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Axel Hilgenfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Driver for Intel NS 3.1
Date: 26 Oct 94 12:00:23 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
Message-ID: <fritz.783172823@toklotum>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
hallo !
I need some drivers for Intel NS 3.1 as follow
- for graphic with S3 805 or S3 805i
- for SCSI with AIC6?60
- SoundBlaster 8bit
- NE2000
A other problem is the keyboard-driver (PS2) for my PC-keyboard.
Who can help me?
From: jester@cs.utexas.edu (Stanley Owen Jester)
Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: TOPAZ 82002 UPS technical manual
Date: 26 Oct 1994 07:16:33 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <38lhb1$3hf@needmore.cs.utexas.edu>
We have recently acquired a TOPAZ UPS unit for our computer room. The only
catch is that it did not come with a manual, or the gell cell batteries.
I already called TOPAZ, and they said they didn't have any technical
manuals for it, so I am asking anyone if they have such a manual, and if
they do, then we can work out copyright problems with TOPAZ (if the
manual is copyrighted) and maybe you could send me a copy.
Again, a TOPAZ UPS model #82002.
Also, if anyone knows of someone else I should contact, I would be very
grateful.
Thanks.
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS and NexGen
Date: 26 Oct 1994 13:07:48 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <38lkb4$ddc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <38i600$b71@sandra.teleport.com>
Raymond A Jackson writes
>
> Will NS/I run on NexGen NX586 based machines?
> Anyone have any experience with these computers?
> thanks
On a "naked" NexGen definitely not. It has no FPU.
I think boards with an external FPU are still not available.
-Rainer.
--------------------------------
"No message today." rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Neverending story: DAT on NeXT (black hw)
Date: 26 Oct 1994 13:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <38ll4o$duc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Subject pretty much says it:
I know there've been several postings about this, but up to now I didn't know
it ever was going to be a subject for me. Thank god, that has changed.
I need a device to back up ~4 GB of stuff from a small NeXT-Network (server
is a Cube). Speed isn't really a critical point, it will run during nighttime.
Any recommendations, warnings, anything? Few lines will do.
Thanks in advance,
Rainer Frohnhoefer at UNIWUE
-------------------------------------
"Still no .sig, I'm working on it!"
rainer@picard.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: jacobsen@arundel.doit.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Any problems with 1.6 GB disks on a slab?(speed of 1.7GB Micropolis)
Date: 26 Oct 1994 13:24:59 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <38llbb$i4t@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <38k9m0$ae9@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <38k9m0$ae9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
} In article <freebandCy7pKt.DIw@netcom.com> freeband@netcom.com (Nick
} Porcaro) writes:
}
} > I am considering purchase of a 1.6 GB disk to put in my slab
} > Anyone tried this?
}
} It depends on the model. I first tried a 1.8 GB Quantum PD1800s, which
} turned out to be incompatible with black hardware (it works on white.).
} I'm now using a 1.7 GB Micropolis in my slab. It works fine.
I'm contemplating purchasing a 1.7GB Micropolis AV drive for my slab.
Could you (or someone else) please post the read/write numbers for the
drive (you can get the numbers with DrivePerformance.app). Also, would
you please comment on how hot the drive runs? I'm worried about my slab
overheating.
Thank you.
-E
---
Erik Jacobsen NeXTMail: OK
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From: c4234@rphs8 (Stefan Schlecht t2069)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micronics PCI/EISA: NS boot error
Date: 26 Oct 1994 15:50:58 GMT
Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany
Message-ID: <38ltt2INNs4f@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
This is a posting for a friend.
We have a Micronics M5PE 66 Pentium PCI/EISA and
we want to run NS, but after installation it
can't boot. After registering the keyboard the
system resets and boots again.
Any help welcome,
Please send mail to hans@OneVision.de (or to me
and I will forward).
Stephan
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From: carlson@newt.wri.com (Chris Carlson)
Subject: setting HP hardware volume
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 15:05:26 GMT
I have the software volume set to its max on an HP machine, but sounds
are barely audible. How does one adjust the hardware volume? Is it
possible from the keyboard?
Christopher Carlson
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From: Wespestad_Eric@pcp.ca (Eric Wespestad)
Subject: Anyone running NEXTSTEP FIP on new DELL Latitude Notebooks?
Message-ID: <1994Oct26.154205.8635@pcp.ca>
Keywords: Dell, NEXTSTEP/FIP
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 15:42:05 GMT
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who is running NEXTSTEP For
Intel Processors on one of the new DELL Latitude notebooks (I'm
considering the DX4/100 model). What (video/sound) drivers are you
using? What display resolutions can you get with it? Have you tried
using one of the swap-out drives for NEXTSTEP, and one for DOS/Windows?
I will provide a summary of all responses to this group.
Thanks
Eric Wespestad
From: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch (Marc Petitmermet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Daydream
Date: 26 Oct 1994 14:36:20 GMT
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In article <38icj8$rcv@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes:
> In article <nguyen05-241094161623@stouffer3.ullab.upenn.edu>
> nguyen05@wharton.upenn.edu (Duc T. Nguyen) writes:
>
> > 1. For those who have posted that Dancing Bear is no longer carying the
> > Daydream product, are you sure?
>
> Tim Griswold told me via email that his company, Dancing Bear, is no
> longer carrying DayDream. I won't go into the reasons he stated. He can
> post that if he chooses.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
I just had a phone call today from Quix the developer of Daydream. They
told me that in about 2 weeks, version 2.11 will be released. There
will be an announcement in c.s.n.a and all persons that are included in
their mailing list will get a message, too. The new version will be
System 7.5 compatible and I guess that the color bug is fixed, no midi
support (never! too much work to be done: new midi manager, new time
manager; this is very sad). They will include the addresses of the
distributors in Switzerland, Germany and USA (maybe a new distributor
in USA).
I don't speak for Quix, I am just daydreaming.
Marc Petitmermet
Switzerland
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much o
Message-ID: <CyAB7w.5vB@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1994Oct14.042704.9286@plexare.co>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 14:35:56 GMT
The #9 IMAGINE 128 4MB 128-bit PCI graphics adaptor is also due in
November. I hope NeXT realizes that this will be the most popular
graphics card for NS and that they should write/modify the driver
a.s.a.p. Dell will be shipping this the #9 IMAGINE 128 with their
systems.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
In article <1994Oct14.042704.9286@plexare.co> msb@plexare.com writes:
> Subject: Re: Does a 4MB on Vid card makes much of a difference?
>
> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
> >> (3) 1600 x 1200 in (444) mode is worth the $200 clams. Now, if my
> >> monitor synched at 68 Hz....
> >
> > I believe that #9 claims that this card can only run at 60Hz, given
its
> > RAMDAC. A newer version, out in about 1 month, will use a higher
speed
> > DAC. Am I incorrect here?
>
> The #9 GXE 64 Pro 1600 is due to be released at the end of this
month. It
> is supposed to be at least driver compatible with their windows
drivers,
> thus it looks good that the NEXTSTEP drivers should work with no
problem.
> You are correct that the current card only runs 1600x1200 at 60Hz.
The
> new card will do 1600x1200 @ 72Hz at least. (Good luck finding a
monitor
> to do that though... As the best I know of is the 21" Hitachi which
does
> 1600x1280 @ 66Hz)
>
> Mike Barthelemy
> msb@plexare.com
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From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: Re: Hardrives for Black hardware...
Message-ID: <MAUTBD1W@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <38k8e6$8pq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 17:45:41 GMT
James Powell wrote:
>I would encourage you to steer clear of IBM hard drives, especially the
>IBM 0664CSH 4Gb drive. I have been trying to bring one of these drives up
>on a Nextstation turbo running 3.2 without any luck at all. I've tried
>everything. The drive is actually two drives which look like one, and that
>is the only thing I can figure that is causing the problems I have. I've
>been able to use the drive on a Mac and when I plugged it back into the Next,
>it mounted one of the two partitions on the drive - but that's useless for
>what I needed and I lose 2Gb to boot. So anyways, do not buy the IBM 0664CSH
So what?
You've been able to mount the first 2GB partition, what else did you do?
Did you include the correct fstab entry? how did you create those two
partitions? what type of partitions did you have? did you build a disktab
entry for this two-partition disk?
>and be careful of any IBM drive as they often require special reconfiguration
>with a DOS utility to change settings stored on the drive, and the
>configuration utility is extremely hard to come by unless you are a reseller.
Might be, but standard scsitools from the archives do the job as well.
Noone is forced to use a PC if he's got a networked NeXT. A (<=2GB) IBM
disk requires one configuration more than other disks, that is ASDPE.
Of course you'll also have to disable sync mode, as you'll have to do
with all other disks from other companies. All you have to know is the
correct bit in mode select page 0 and get scsitools. That replaces the
famous DOS utility.
>I did not get this drive by choice, but after waiting ten months for a drive
>from a disreputable dealer, I threatened legal action unless they sent me a
>comparable drive to what I had ordered. Figures they'd get me one last time.
>I have no more hope for making this combination work and hope this save someone
>else a lot of wasted time.
So what DID you do? If you managed to mount the first partition of the drive,
you must have configured it "nearly" correct. If the disk works as a 2GB disk,
it should work as any other >2GB disk with a black NeXT computer. "works"
means: can you boot from this disk? can you use it as an external disk?
Ciao, Stephan
P.S. Sorry if that sounds a bit unfriendly, but some time ago lots of people
posted articles about IBM harddisks not working with black hardware
containing wrong information. All <=2GB IBM disks could be persuaded to work
with black hardware, so far. >2GB disks have no other non-IBM feature
as far as I know, and if this disk works on the first partition, no
IBM-specific problem is left. But of course, I only know for sure about
<=2GB disks especially the 0622 1GB.
--
X-EMail: Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de>
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Neverending story: DAT on NeXT (black hw)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:14:20 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <cifc1Qq00WBK81m6h_@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38ll4o$duc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Oct-94 Neverending
story: DAT on N.. by Rainer Frohnhoefer@wmax6
> I need a device to back up ~4 GB of stuff from a small NeXT-Network (server
> is a Cube). Speed isn't really a critical point, it will run during
> nighttime.
> Any recommendations, warnings, anything? Few lines will do.
Get SafetyNet.
Get an Exabyte 4200c DAT tape drive, which should be able to put around
6 GB of stuff (with compression) onto a 4mm/90m tape.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
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NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Media Errors on slab
Date: 26 Oct 1994 17:21:01 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <38m35t$dum@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
When fsck reports media errors on an internal drive are they automatically
taken care of? (marked as bad) Or is that a separate operation. Any help
would be appreciated.
Ed
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 26 Oct 1994 16:51:31 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38m1ej$kq9@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
References: <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> <38knng$qnt@news.onramp.net>
: In article <bchin.782773949@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
: Chin) writes:
: > NEXTSTEP doesn't support EIDE and I don't think it ever should. Just
: > 'cause NEXTSTEP runs on PCs doesn't mean that NeXT should devote
: > resources to support every crummy PC standard out there. If you are
: > dealing with disks larger than 500mb, get a SCSI card. It just doesn't
: > make sense to spend $$$ on a system and cripple it so. It's amazing
: > the number of PC purchasers that spend $500 on the CPU, $400 on the
: > video board, but won't spend more than $20 on the disk controller.
Mr Chin, Your Opinion is duly noted, However, you are only expressing
an opinion based on what the current standards are. I have seen some
preliminary ATA-3 specs (EIDE is called ATA-2), and those specs will
exceed SCSI-II's performace, at least in theory. unforutunately EIDE
will not be going away as a standard, as a matter of fact it will
probably eclipse SCSI in performace within 2 years. If we all stop and
think about it, the limiting factors of how fast a drive is is
bassically how fast the data flys off of the platter onto the R/W
heads, and NOT the interface to which the Drive is connected to. so
whil it may be true that IDE drives using PIO may generate more
overhead, but as EIDE and ATA-3 comes into implementation, and start
to take advantage of the fast PCI bus and using simulate DMA (there is
no true DMA on the PCI bus, as in the sense of the DMA on the AT bus),
you'll get as good performace as your going to get from a drive
regardless of interface. The reason that I think ATA-3 (E-EIDE?) will
take over SCSI is because SCSI devices will probably always be a bit
more expensive due to the fact that they require more logic control on
each of the devices, and more logic means more cost. EIDE already
supports 4 devices on the same AT bus, transfer rates are going to be
as high as SCSI-II, so if you're going to get the same performance for
less cost, I think that most everyone will go that route.
Currently, I am using a 1 gig SCSI drive, simply because NSFIP doesn't
support EIDE drives, but I think that once NSFIP starts to support it,
and the performace is there, I wouldn't hesitate to switch just to
remain loyal to SCSI.
Also, I think that Apple has switched to IDE/(E)IDE not just because
it is cheaper, but apple probably knows more about the upcoming
standards, and realized that the future is in IDE, not SCSI.
Just a personal Opinion. No knowledge of any industry secret. Have a
nice day.
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP config - 17inch,32meg,1gig.ATI GUP VLB
NeXT config - 17 inch,20meg,400meg,mono
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 5400 RPM disks and other musings...
Date: 26 Oct 1994 10:15:40 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <38l6ns$fca@marsu.s.bawue.de>
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samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>- It would be nice if NeXT gave us an ASPI aware utility that
> could do this.
Chris Wolf told me that he wants to add a write cache turn on/off feature
into SCSI_Inspector.app soon.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 16:06:07 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by David T. Wang@glue.umd.e
> Mr Chin, Your Opinion is duly noted, However, you are only expressing
> an opinion based on what the current standards are. I have seen some
> preliminary ATA-3 specs (EIDE is called ATA-2), and those specs will
> exceed SCSI-II's performace, at least in theory.
Comparing the theoretical performance of a preliminary specification to
a real-world system that's been around for years and concluding that
ATA-3 will exceed SCSI-II's performance is a little silly.
> If we all stop and think about it, the limiting factors of how fast a drive
> is is bassically how fast the data flys off of the platter onto the R/W
> heads, and NOT the interface to which the Drive is connected to.
That's not correct. Most drives have some level of caching built
directly onto the drive and/or the controller card nowadays, and an
intelligent caching algorithm can provide a significant performance
improvement above and beyond the raw transfer rate of the magnetic
media. The speed of the bus is quite significant, especially when you
consider that (E)IDE drives result in a lot of CPU overhead...so the
faster the bus, the less CPU overhead wasted.
> so while it may be true that IDE drives using PIO may generate more
> overhead, but as EIDE and ATA-3 comes into implementation, and start
> to take advantage of the fast PCI bus and using simulate DMA (there is
> no true DMA on the PCI bus, as in the sense of the DMA on the AT bus),
> you'll get as good performace as your going to get from a drive
> regardless of interface.
That's also not correct. Until (E)IDE supports device
disconnect/reconnect and command queuing as SCSI does, SCSI will offer
significantly better throughput (and at a lower CPU overhead level, as
well) for simultaneous device access.
> The reason that I think ATA-3 (E-EIDE?) will take over SCSI is because SCSI
> devices will probably always be a bit more expensive due to the fact that
> they require more logic control on each of the devices, and more logic means
> more cost.
Where did this notion that SCSI devices are more expensive than (E)IDE
devices come from? Check the prices of even fairly small drives
(anything over 200 MB or so), and you'll generally find that SCSI and
(E)IDE drives cost almost exactly the same, at least if you're dealing
with an honest distributor. The difference in costs between a SCSI
chipset and a (E)IDE chipset is so small compared to the cost of the
drive hardware that it's not a factor.
Besides, when you consider that the same SCSI drive can be connected to
NeXT's original hardware, Intel machines, and HP machines (and Suns, and
DECs, and....), this is a real advantage. Can you move your (E)IDE
drive off your Intel box and have it work with some other machine?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
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NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Jumpers on HP 660 MB drive?
Date: 26 Oct 1994 21:20:55 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <38mh7n$6hm@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Help!
I need to set the SCSI ID on my HP 660 MB drive to 2 or 3, and I have no idea
even which bank of jumpers to adjust. I clearly have no documentation on this
drive, so I need to know which bank to work on (there are three), and what the
proper jumper configuration is for scsi id 2 or 3 (or even 4 or 5).
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Randy Jackson
jackson+@osu.edu
NeXT Mail welcome!
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NEC Wingine machine--competition for Canon?
Message-ID: <Cy7BGr.13J@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <37uhia$n6f@xmission.xmission.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:48:27 GMT
In article <37uhia$n6f@xmission.xmission.com> kris@xmission.com (kris) writes:
#I noticed in the hardware compatibility guide datestamped 12 Oct that
#NeXT is planning to certify an NEC PowerMate for NEXTSTEP for Intel 3.3.
#
#This machine, according to the guide, is a '486 VL-Bus Wingine machine.
#Almost certainly, NEC has built this specifically to penetrate the NEXTSTEP
#marketplace--Wingines suck for running Windows for various reasons.
Could you please specify what they are?
I worked for Chips and Technologies and the new Wingine DGX
runs Windows very well. The old Wingine didn't do too bad
either.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: soundbox
Message-ID: <Cy7BKE.14A@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:50:38 GMT
In article <Cxusq7.4v7@usa.net> bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes:
#where does a soundbox plug in?
#
#The reason I ask is that i will be using my sony trinitron on my NeXTCube
#and realized that I need to get a soundbox, i think. My old mono monitor
#had a speaker in it. Now that i won't be using it...I wonder about the
#sound in/out.
Huh?
You have a ND system, right?
The soundbox plugs into the cable where the mono monitor used
to plug in. The SB also has the keyboard control and other stuff
the mono monitor used to handle.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: connect black next printer to intel?
Message-ID: <Cy7Bnz.151@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:52:46 GMT
In article <37u5qv$dv8@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
#Does anybody make a card and associated software that
#can connect a black next printer to an intel machine running nextstep 3.2?
No, noway, nohow, it just doesn't and won't work.
Kent
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From: gadallah@netcom.com (Larry Gadallah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bell-Atlantic contact in Canada?
Followup-To: poster
Date: 23 Oct 1994 23:15:00 GMT
Organization: Prince George Free-Net Assoc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38eqpk$fmf@freenet.unbc.edu>
Does anyone know how to contact Bell-Atlantic in Canada? Is there such a thing
(as Bell-Atlantic in Canada)?
Thanks in advance,
--
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and Ada is for Criminals.'' - Dennis Ritchie
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From: Thachuk_Daryl@pcp.ca (Daryl Thachuk)
Subject: NeXT Color monitor DEAD
Message-ID: <1994Oct26.215411.10864@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 21:54:11 GMT
I have a 17 inch NeXT color monitor which has suddenly expired.
No picture, power hum, no nuthin :-(
Has anyone had this happin before? Is it the powersupply, transformer,
or what?
thanx
Daryl
thachuk_dary@pcp.ca
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Cleaning the keyboard
Message-ID: <1994Oct26.214424.262@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <1994Oct21.192234.752@FreemanSoft.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 21:44:24 GMT
In article <1994Oct21.192234.752@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe
Freeman) writes:
> I've dumped beer in my keyboard a couple of times (actually an
> alien did it because I surely wouldn't drink and drive on the
> information highway). This tends to cause all the keys to bind
> up, a bunch. The easiest way to clean it is to take apart the
> keyboard (unscrewing the back) and run it under the kitchen sink.
> I usually use warm water and just flood the thing with a heavy
> stream. Then I stand it on end and let it dry over night. (Actually,
> I usually wave it around a little first to get some of the water
> off). Electronics are water tight so that isn't a problem. You
> just need to let the thing get good and dry before plugging it back
> in.
>
So, it is quite refreshing to hear that you were lucky!
A friend of mine did the same with a fareast (I think midwest could be the
same ;-) keyboard of his PC and all springs rusted so heavily that the
whole thing went down the drain (not only the beer >:-O
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: sottilej@clipper.robadome.com (Joseph J. Sottile)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on NeXT vs. other platforms?
Date: 26 Oct 1994 21:34:22 GMT
Organization: Siemens Rolm Communications Inc.
Message-ID: <38mi0u$fd4@dodge.eng.sc.rolm.com>
References: <38epuq$13j@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
>> 1. What are the differences between NS/Motorolla & NS/Intel (and
>> So which is the better hardware for NS?
>
One *similarity* between "Motorolla" and Intel that was not noted in
the previous responses is that each company's name contains only one
letter "l". ;-)
"Motorola", please.
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 94 17:24:34 -0500
From: Antonio Garcia <antonio@teorica0.ifisicacu.unam.mx>
Message-ID: <9410262224.AA00437@teorica0.ifisicacu.unam.mx>
Subject: help
help
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone heard anything about SMP for NeXTStep?
Date: 26 Oct 1994 19:20:25 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <38mv8p$4vs@polaris.unm.edu>
Hey, folks. Alice the Cube is still my one true machine, but I occasionally
think of the future when I'll need a little more processing power than Alice
provides. I've considered buying a dual Pentium, a multiprocessor HP, or
even a Sparc 20-like machine sometime early next year, and I'm getting worried.
Everyone seems to be coming out with SMP support but NeXT.
I don't remember having seen any announcements from NeXT, and last time I
checked, Mach 3 was still pretty shaky. Companies with deep pockets like
Big Blue seem to have gotten their own kernels working and out on the market,
but CMU doesn't seem to have floated reliable SMP yet. Will we have to wait
for Mecca before NeXTStep goes multiprocessor?
I'd be tempted to buy a two or four white box right now if everything worked.
Any comments/info?
Dave
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: 27 Oct 1994 01:22:09 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38mvc1$9gj@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
References: <wiffOjG00Uh7A5iUVQ@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
: support by David T. Wang@glue.umd.e
: > Mr Chin, Your Opinion is duly noted, However, you are only expressing
: > an opinion based on what the current standards are. I have seen some
: > preliminary ATA-3 specs (EIDE is called ATA-2), and those specs will
: > exceed SCSI-II's performace, at least in theory.
: Comparing the theoretical performance of a preliminary specification to
: a real-world system that's been around for years and concluding that
: ATA-3 will exceed SCSI-II's performance is a little silly.
sorry, I should have said, theoretical compared to theoretical.
: > If we al stop and think about it, the limiting factors of how fast a drive
: > is is bassically how fast the data flys off of the platter onto the R/W
: > heads, and NOT the interface to which the Drive is connected to.
: That's not correct. Most drives have some level of caching built
: directly onto the drive and/or the controller card nowadays, and an
: intelligent caching algorithm can provide a significant performance
: improvement above and beyond the raw transfer rate of the magnetic
: media. The speed of the bus is quite significant, especially when you
: consider that (E)IDE drives result in a lot of CPU overhead...so the
: faster the bus, the less CPU overhead wasted.
All drives have caching, SCSI/EIDE, you're arguing that SCSI takes
better advantage of this caching, but is it worth the extra $$$?
everything must be evaluated against cost. Is it worth it to make 5ms
access drive that cost $10/meg? In general, no. is it worth it to pay
5% more for 2% performace increase? maybe, depending on your application.
: > so while it may be true that IDE drives using PIO may generate more
: > overhead, but as EIDE and ATA-3 comes into implementation, and start
: > to take advantage of the fast PCI bus and using simulate DMA (there is
: > no true DMA on the PCI bus, as in the sense of the DMA on the AT bus),
: > you'll get as good performace as your going to get from a drive
: > regardless of interface.
: That's also not correct. Until (E)IDE supports device
: disconnect/reconnect and command queuing as SCSI does, SCSI will offer
: significantly better throughput (and at a lower CPU overhead level, as
: well) for simultaneous device access.
maybe it will :)
: > The reason that I think ATA-3 (E-EIDE?) will take over SCSI is because SCSI
: > devices will probably always be a bit more expensive due to the fact that
: > they require more logic control on each of the devices, and more logic means
: > more cost.
: Where did this notion that SCSI devices are more expensive than (E)IDE
: devices come from? Check the prices of even fairly small drives
: (anything over 200 MB or so), and you'll generally find that SCSI and
: (E)IDE drives cost almost exactly the same, at least if you're dealing
: with an honest distributor. The difference in costs between a SCSI
: chipset and a (E)IDE chipset is so small compared to the cost of the
: drive hardware that it's not a factor.
SCSI host adaptors cost twice as much as EIDE host adpators, SCSI
drives cost more than EIDE drives. I've seen WD EIDE 1 gig drives for
$400. Haven't seen SCSI 1 gigs for less than $450. (though in this
case I would still stick with SCSI, because WD is still slow compared
to the SCSI, but it is becoming a viable alternative)
: Besides, when you consider that the same SCSI drive can be connected to
: NeXT's original hardware, Intel machines, and HP machines (and Suns, and
: DECs, and....), this is a real advantage. Can you move your (E)IDE
: drive off your Intel box and have it work with some other machine?
not everyone is a sysadmin and even remotely cares about such things,
the fact that you and I would find this feature desirable, does not
mean that everyone should dish out 5%~10% more dough for this
feature.
Perhaps I should make it clear, I am not advocating that we all
abandon SCSI and go EIDE, but simply that EIDE is certainly becoming a
viable alternative, and we all shouldn't be rejecting EIDE just
because SCSI is currently technically superior.
: -Chuck
: Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
: --------------------------------------------+
: AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
: NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP config - 17inch,32meg,1gig.ATI GUP VLB
NeXT config - 17 inch,20meg,400meg,mono
From: sjm1@crux4.cit.cornell.edu (Seth Morabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: A few NeXTDimension questions
Date: 27 Oct 1994 05:25:08 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Message-ID: <38ndjk$ghc@tuba.cit.cornell.edu>
I am trying to find out how much people are selling their NeXTDimension
boards for these days, as I may be in the market in the near future.
What should I look for as a reasonable price?
I also have a general question about the NeXTDimension board that someone
can probably help me with. What types of monitors can be connected to
a NeXTDimension? Just NeXT monitors, or third party as well? (a Sony in
my case).
All information is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-Seth
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Seth J. Morabito sjm1@cornell.edu Cornell University Ithaca NY
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"Three branches, and you you increase your options eightfold... Five
branches, and the kid's brain explodes. This doesn't happen very
often." -- Molly Diesing, Linguistics 203 professor.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pdepuydt@uia.ac.be (Peter.Depuydt)
Subject: CD-ROM probs !! RPD ???
Message-ID: <1994Oct27.114551.26046@reks.uia.ac.be>
Sender: news@reks.uia.ac.be (USENET News System)
Organization: U.I.A.
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 11:45:51 GMT
My Next_Step 3.1 (Intel) was running perfectly, untill I installed a cd-rom player.
My System config look like this :
HP Vectra 486/66XM
S3 graphics with 2MB Vram
20 MB ram
Adaptec 1540C SCSI-II Card
1 GB HP harddisk
and ...
HP Multi-media kit.
Adaptec sound-device,
NEC CD-ROM CRD 210P 1.0
The problem is that when I try to copy from CD to HD I get an I/O error message.
It's even worse when I launch an RTF-file directly from the CD. The result is an
frozen machine. The only thing I can get is the kernel-debugger with the following
message
Raise RDP exception 6 code 3 subcode 0
waiting for RDP connection
(type 'c' to continue)
What does that mean ??
If I type 'C' the debugger window disappears but the system remains frozen.
when I press ALT-ALTGR-NUMLOCK the debugger window appears again, but no way Goze.
The one options that remains me is the "RESET BUTTON",bah . That doesn't sound like
my NeXT I used to have.
All Ideas and help are mostly welcome, and surely be appreciated !!!
Please let NeXT STEP be my advantage ??!! 8-((
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From: tombm@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Tom Bryant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: adaptec 2842 problems
Date: 27 Oct 1994 14:31:09 GMT
Message-ID: <38odjd$r35@news.kth.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Has anybody got the beta Adaptec 2842 VL driver to work ?
The problem is that the driver refuses to see the card..
IÂm tried several IRQs with no luck , this card has run
succesfully on Win 95 Maybeta, Linux, OS/2, Dos/Win....
Regards,
-Ulf
ulf@initiera.upnet.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fs@dev1 (Frederic STARK)
Subject: Summary: [HELP] Data General DASHER 466e crash under NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CyC5DD.vq@comdev.fdn.fr>
Keywords: SUMMARY, DG, GECKO, HUGE
Sender: usenet@comdev.fdn.fr
Organization: Communication Developpement.
References: <CxtMyM.3qv@comdev.fdn.fr>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 14:24:49 GMT
Description of the problem at the end of the post
First, we want to thank the huge number of persons that helped us solving
our problem.
In particular we would thanks Geert <gclem@dannug.dk>
He had the same kind of problems and substantially suggested us to change
the hardware. Unfortunatly there is no DG-GECKO yet.
Total followup post in comp.sys.next.hardware: 0
Total followup post in comp.sys.next.sysadmin: 0
Mails
- gclem@dannug.dk
Total 1
State of the problem:
Still open.
> Symptoms
> Approx Once a day, one of the following happens
> - system freeze
> - system panic
> - Window Server death
> - Application crash [ ie compiler / mail ... ]
>
> Host information
> Mach kernel version:
> NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993;
> root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
>
> Kernel configured for a single processor only.
> 1 processor is physically available.
> Processor type: I386 (Intel 486)
> Processor active: 0
> Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes.
> Default processor set: 66 tasks, 126 threads, 1 processors
> Load average: 0.66, Mach factor: 0.66
>
> Hardware configuration
> Data General Dasher 466e
> SCSI DPT 2122
> Video ATI Ultra Pro Mach32
> Network IntelEtherExpress (RJ45)
>
> Using standards drivers from NS 3.2
>
> We changed the DPT for an Adaptec 1542 in one machine
> The crashes are less frequent, but still there.
>
> Example of /usr/adm/messages
> (but we have dozens of other different logs)
>
> Aug 31 15:20:41 dev2 mach: EATA timeout
> Aug 31 15:20:41 dev2 mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
> Aug 31 15:20:50 dev2 mach: sd0: REQUEST SENSE ERROR; FATAL.
> Aug 31 15:20:50 dev2 mach: IO error on pageout (bread)
> Aug 31 15:20:50 dev2 mach: vnode_pageout: failed!
>
> The PCs are configured with dual boot.
> They are seldom used under DOS, but we have seen them crashing
> (while HIMEM checks mem)
>
> We have 4 memory slots, filled with 4 16Mb double-sided ram chips.
> We heard it could be a unsafe configuration
>
> Anybody have any clue / solution / driver updates / or anythings ?
> We would really appreciate any help, or hearing about people with
> similar DG configurations.
>
> Please, e-mail at dgadmin@comdev.fdn.fr, we'll post a summary.
You can email at dgadmin@comdev.fdn.fr to be member of the next summary.
Opinions (if any) exprimed here are our opinions (not yours, nor those of
our employer).
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Frederic STARK fs@comdev.fdn.fr NeXTMail OK (if small)
Stephane LUNATI sli@comdev.fdn.fr NeXTMail (NO if big)
"No DG, buy HP to continue"
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From: martin@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Oettle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Looking for a SCSI-Streamer supported by NS
Date: 27 Oct 1994 13:25:46 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38o9oq$c8p@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
Keywords: no reply
Hi,
I have Pentium PCI/60 Mhz with an ADAPTEC AHA 1542C - ISA
Controller.
Does anybody know, if an ARCHIVE-VIPER-SCSI-streamer works
with NS 3.2 or has anybody had any experiences with
other streamers?
please reply per email.
Thanx in advance
Martin
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 27 Oct 1994 15:08:58 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Well, a friend of mine has a 60MHz Gateway Pentium, with an Quantum
SCSI disk on the ISA bus. Not sure if it's SCSI-II, but since this is
an old Quantum model (the 105 from the original NeXTstations, I
think), I doubt it's SCSI-II.
So, I have a 90MHz Pentium running NEXTSTEP, with a PCI fast SCSI-II
NCR based adaptor, with a 2 gigabyte Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM fast
SCSI-II disk. I asked my friend to run the ByteBenchmark to see how
well his machine performed against mine.
His machine is running Linux. He came out with a 4.9 index, compared to
my 3.9. Surprising? Yes. My computer beat his on every benchmark
except, yes you guessed it, the UNIXy stuff. Also, even more surprising
(less surprising) was that his machine does UNIXy stuff much better
than mine given that I have a better bus, and a processor which is 50%
faster than his. I'm not talking about relative performance: I'm
talking about *outright* performance. His machine outperforms mine
doing UNIX stuff.
I remind you, I also have a Seagate Barracuda on the PCI bus. This
should be very fast. He has a SCSI drive on the ISA bus. His should
suck. However, he does have Linux, and I do have NEXTSTEP with
questionable PCI support. I'll be interested in seeing how the new
Adaptec 2940 card runs under 3.3PR2.
Anyway, here are the relevant numbers (I've dropped out the arithmetic
tests and drhystone, etc., which were rather normal, the P/90 beating
the P/60).
These are quite surprising:
*P/60* running LINUX, ISA SCSI, Quantum disk
==========================================================================
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 613.0 1.2
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 160070.0 8.8
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 11342.0 18.9
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 14.7 3.9
Process Creation Test 34.0 128.5 3.8
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 5010.3 4.3
*P/90* running NEXTSTEP, NCR PCI SCSI-II, Seagate Barracuda disk
==========================================================================
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 1054.0 2.0
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 53992.0 3.0
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1200.0 2.0
Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 14.0 3.7
Process Creation Test 34.0 112.3 3.3
Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 4057.1 3.5
While my file copies were slightly better, his machine SLAYS mine on
reads and writes. An index of 1.0 represents a Sparc1 running SunOS.
The higher the index, the better the performance.
The LINUX guys know what's what. Kudos to them.
NEXTSTEP looks again like it's showing its heritage as a poorly
performing UNIX.
Any comments or corrections are welcome.
- db
--
My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will release
source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if the source
code is released, I promise to praise NeXT at least once a day, and
at noon to face in the general direction of Redwood City and pray.
From: vlad@custer.me.jhu.edu (Rakesh Malik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video card for NSFIP, PCI bus
Date: 27 Oct 1994 15:25:03 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA
Message-ID: <38ogof$rqt@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
I need to get a video card for a Pentium 60 (Zenon) to run NeXTstep,
and I am pretty much down to deciding between the #9GXEPro PCI w/ 4MB and
the ATI Pro Turbo PCI w/ 4MB. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what
sort of experiences they have had with either, so that I could choose the
more trouble free card. Also, would I need to get a driver for the #9? I
know Talus has a Mach 64, driver, and I have heard mixed reviews about it.
Thanks, in advance.
-Rakesh
(I'm new to NS, but I don't mind NeXTmail)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: connect black next printer to intel?
Date: 26 Oct 1994 23:17:21 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <38n641$ak1@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <Cy7Bnz.151@infoserv.com>
kent@infoserv.com writes
> In article <37u5qv$dv8@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
> #Does anybody make a card and associated software that
> #can connect a black next printer to an intel machine running nextstep 3.2?
>
> No, noway, nohow, it just doesn't and won't work.
>
Well. thats not entirely true...
You could by an old 68030 Cube and use that as a print server! :-)
We picked up ours for $500 (16Mb, OD, 330Mb drive)
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: rgc@necco.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 27 Oct 1994 17:01:18 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <38omcu$fh6@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
[benchmarks deleted]
: Any comments or corrections are welcome.
Try comparing the disk speed using iozone (in orst, sources/tools).
Linux might use a lot more buffering than NS, so unless you do a huge
file read/write (e.g. 40MB), you can't do a valid comparison. Note
that you can always increase the number of buffers used by NS.
BTW, I have a Micropolis 4110 w/Adaptec 1542c. I get ~600KB/s write,
~1.2MB/s read (using a 40 MB iozone file). I justed ordered a
BusLogic 445C (VLBus), so I hope to see a nice increase. A similar
system with a NCR PCI SCSI adapter gives the same write speed, but
double the read speed.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Re: Salvaging newly-dead HD in 68040 cube??
Message-ID: <1994Oct27.145911.4280@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <38fdam$c95@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 14:59:11 GMT
Douglas Scott writes
> Alas, the original 350 Mb hard drive in my 040 cube at home died
tonight...
> I came in the room and the only sound coming from the machine was the
sound of
> the ventillation fan -- the disk drive had stopped completely.
>
> The HD had been getting a bit noisy over the past year, but I figured it
would
> just continue to get worse, and that I would have some warning so that
I
> could have a new drive on order near the end.
>
> What are the chances that I will be able to get the drive to spin up
again at
> least long enough to get my newest files off? Any suggestions on how to
> proceed?
>
> Thanks very much.
>
If you find out anything, let me know!!! I had the exact same thing
happen a few months ago. The SCSI portion of the drive identified itself
okay but the darn thing would never spin up again!!! The data recovery
outfits wanted $200 to $300 to extract the data for me. I said forget it
and applied that money toward a new drive. Luckily the data wasn't that
important.
My old Maxtor 340MB drive is now a doorstop and a rather nice one at that.
Good luck.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from
the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: huang@kwainx.isc.umr.edu (Cheng-Chin Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Digitizer for NSFIP
Date: 26 Oct 1994 15:40:23 GMT
Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38lt97$96a@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu>
Keywords: digitizer, frame grabber
Is there any video digitizer( frame grabber) available for NSFIP? Maybe
I should ask if there is any digitizer which can be accessed thru NSFIP.
Any help will be very appreciated.
--Tony Huang
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Enhanced IDE support
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 10:53:01 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <8ifvvB600iV142GtlM@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38mvc1$9gj@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-Oct-94 Re: Enhanced IDE
support by David T. Wang@glue.umd.e
> All drives have caching, SCSI/EIDE, you're arguing that SCSI takes
> better advantage of this caching, but is it worth the extra $$$?
> everything must be evaluated against cost. Is it worth it to make 5ms
> access drive that cost $10/meg? In general, no. is it worth it to pay
> 5% more for 2% performace increase? maybe, depending on your application.
You should do some research on the actual, real world performance of
multithreaded and/or simultaneous device access with SCSI and EIDE. The
performance gain for SCSI is around an order of magnitude (if not more)
greater than 2%.
> SCSI host adaptors cost twice as much as EIDE host adpators,
For PC's with PCI, perhaps. Take a look at the costs for built-on the
motherboard SCSI versus botm EIDE.
> SCSI drives cost more than EIDE drives.
Go call up Micropolis or Seagate and ask how much they want for the same
physical drive with SCSI and EIDE. You will find that, in general, SCSI
drives do _not_ cost more than EIDE drives.
[ ... ]
> not everyone is a sysadmin and even remotely cares about such things,
> the fact that you and I would find this feature desirable, does not
> mean that everyone should dish out 5%~10% more dough for this
> feature.
What does being a sysadmin have to do with being able to transport your
drive around and hook it up to any machine you need to?
Secondly, the added cost for SCSI varies between 2% and 5%, not 5-10%,
assuming that the SCSI controller costs $100 more, and the total system
prices vary between $5000 to $2000.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What is the best portable for running NSFIP?
Date: 27 Oct 1994 17:17:22 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <38onb2$sul@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Anyone out there have any experience running NSFIP on a portable?
More specifically, does anyone have suggestions as to what portable would be
the best to buy, and whether colour or mono is best? I have heard the NEC
portables work well, but would be happier if someone out there who had actually
used one could substantiate this!
--
Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926
Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University
Scotland FK9 4LA
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From: kitana!sysop@caprica.com (JL Gomez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AMD & NS co-existence?
Date: 27 Oct 1994 15:32:01 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <m0r0bA4-000MWkC@kitana>
Can anyone confirm that NeXTStep and an AMD 486 microprocessor
can work together?
I'm looking into getting an AMD-DX2/80.
--
sysop@kitana.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Thachuk_Daryl@pcp.ca (Daryl Thachuk)
Subject: NeXT monitor on a Sun
Message-ID: <1994Oct27.185335.18983@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 18:53:35 GMT
Does anyone know if you can use a NeXT 17 Color Monitor on a Sun? Both
use 13W3 connectors but are they wired the same.
thanx
Daryl Thachuk
thachuk_Daryl@pcp.ca
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Operator41)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 27 Oct 1994 19:16:50 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <38oub2$7qo@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <38omcu$fh6@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Ross Garrett Cutler (rgc@necco.cs.umd.edu) wrote:
: Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: [benchmarks deleted]
: : Any comments or corrections are welcome.
: Try comparing the disk speed using iozone (in orst, sources/tools).
: Linux might use a lot more buffering than NS, so unless you do a huge
: file read/write (e.g. 40MB), you can't do a valid comparison. Note
: that you can always increase the number of buffers used by NS.
I've used both and here's my experience. Yes, it is true that Linux
uses a lot more buffering. As a matter of fact, it uses a dynamically
allocated buffer cache (taking from the same memory pool programs use).
If the memory isn't used for something else, it's used for buffering.
Also, Linux buffers all writes.
Now, NS has uses a STATIC buffer cache and does NOT buffer writes.
That's a biggie!
I've always wonderred how to twiddle with the buffer settings in NS.
Since you've mentioned that they can be changed, how does one do
it?
--
| Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
| rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 13:45:04 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QifyQUG00iV1E2GuY0@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-Oct-94 One filesystem
throughput, .. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
> While my file copies were slightly better, his machine SLAYS mine on
> reads and writes. An index of 1.0 represents a Sparc1 running SunOS.
> The higher the index, the better the performance.
The Byte Benchmarks are not particularly well done with respect to the
disk access tests. Take a look at src/fstime.c, and note:
#define BUFF_SIZE 1024
#define MAX_BLOCKS 2000 /* max number of BUFF_SIZE blocks in file */
for an under 2 MB test file size, which is a size that produces results
which can be very dependant on the exact caching strategies being used.
Try using 10000 blocks.
Secondly, their benchmark never calls fsync() to verify that the files
were actually written completely. This also makes a difference, since
it looks like Linux uses more of a write-behind cache than NS does,
which'll get flushed during the next sync() and sleep() calls (which
aren't timed).
Make sure you compare the two under even conditions, such as running the
benchmark under single-user mode before the WindowServer for NS or X for
Linux has started up.
An easier, and probably more accurate method would be to try using
IOZone with large (say the size of system RAM) test files and compare
those results.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Neverending story: DAT on NeXT (black hw)
Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:21:38 GMT
Organization: ping - Personal InterNet Gate
Message-ID: <38p95i$9js@pong.ping.at>
References: <38ll4o$duc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Originator: wa@s051
In article <38ll4o$duc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> Any recommendations, warnings, anything? Few lines will do.
I am using a HP 4mm DAT/DDS Tape Drive (Capacity withouth compression 2GB
on 90m tapes) on NSFIP; writing works withouth any problems with all
programs (tar, dump, ...). But: I have to try very often to read a tape
written with the "restore" command. I normally instantly get a "I/O" error
that after a varying number of retries (10-30) suddenly disappears. It is
not a real problem since I very seldom have to use the "restore" command,
but it is annoying anyway.
--
Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at
Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690
A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817
Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard)
Subject: Diamond Viper PCI driver?
Message-ID: <1994Oct27.193150.11208@sei.cmu.edu>
Sender: netnews@sei.cmu.edu (Netnews)
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 19:31:50 EDT
This card is in a NS/FIP system I'm helping a friend configure. Trouble is,
card came with no documentation and no NS driver. Can anyone point me to one,
or recommend how else to proceed.
Thanks.
--
Larry Howard
Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
lph@sei.cmu.edu, (412) 268-6397
--
Larry Howard
Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
lph@sei.cmu.edu, (412) 268-6397
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: setting HP hardware volume
Message-ID: <1994Oct27.233439.16769@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <CARLSON.94Oct26100526@newt.wri.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 23:34:39 GMT
In article <CARLSON.94Oct26100526@newt.wri.com> carlson@newt.wri.com (Chris Carlson) writes:
>>I have the software volume set to its max on an HP machine, but sounds
>>are barely audible. How does one adjust the hardware volume? Is it
>>possible from the keyboard?
>>
I have a set of Bose VideoRoommate speakers (powered speakers with
a volume knob) connected to the line out. The 712's speaker is tiny
and stuck pointing at the power supply, and I don't even know that the
735 has one.
You can power a cheapo pair of powered speakers at Radio Shack if nothing
else...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 666-4119 (day office)
--> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 28 Oct 1994 00:05:35 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <38pf8f$2m9@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <38omcu$fh6@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <38oub2$7qo@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Operator41 (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote:
: Ross Garrett Cutler (rgc@necco.cs.umd.edu) wrote:
: : Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: : [benchmarks deleted]
: : : Any comments or corrections are welcome.
: : Try comparing the disk speed using iozone (in orst, sources/tools).
: : Linux might use a lot more buffering than NS, so unless you do a huge
: : file read/write (e.g. 40MB), you can't do a valid comparison. Note
: : that you can always increase the number of buffers used by NS.
: I've used both and here's my experience. Yes, it is true that Linux
: uses a lot more buffering. As a matter of fact, it uses a dynamically
: allocated buffer cache (taking from the same memory pool programs use).
: If the memory isn't used for something else, it's used for buffering.
: Also, Linux buffers all writes.
: Now, NS has uses a STATIC buffer cache and does NOT buffer writes.
: That's a biggie!
: I've always wonderred how to twiddle with the buffer settings in NS.
: Since you've mentioned that they can be changed, how does one do
: it?
Use the "nbu=#" kernel option on bootup. Please see the FAQ for more details.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: Re: Does CANON 150 Portables work with NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1994Oct28.004314.29783@mixcom.com>
Sender: news@mixcom.com (Net News Admin)
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milw, WI (414) 351-1139
References: <38jcoo$821@news.onramp.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 00:43:14 GMT
I sent some email to info@talus.com over a week ago, and no response.
I don't think that I would buy a product from someone that doesn't answer their
email....... Something about custumer support.
---
Alberto Ricart
SmartSoft, Inc.
2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 28 Oct 1994 00:51:50 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38phv6$g7r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <38omcu$fh6@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
In article <38omcu$fh6@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@necco.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>
>[benchmarks deleted]
>
>: Any comments or corrections are welcome.
>
>Try comparing the disk speed using iozone (in orst, sources/tools).
>Linux might use a lot more buffering than NS, so unless you do a huge
>file read/write (e.g. 40MB), you can't do a valid comparison. Note
>that you can always increase the number of buffers used by NS.
On my system, iozone reports very fast read times (over 10mb/sec)
for everything up to 20M. After that, it poops down to 1.4mb/sec.
Overall, I've found the ByteBenchmark to be very reliable. Perhaps
you should get a copy then critique it? I've got a fair amount
of faith in it (ie. whatever it's doing, it's not being fooled by
caching/buffering likeiozone)
BTW, what about the other stuff (non-disk stuff)?
(Someone else sent me email saying that Linux performs better
because it's been Intel-optimized. Another possibility is that
Linux is just plain-old better than NEXTSTEP at UNIX stuff ;-).
- db
--
My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will
release source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if
the source code is released, I promise to praise NeXT on USENET at
least once a day...
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Alternate mouse for black h/w?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 00:10:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38pfh8$fek@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Cy97vB.3x0@research.canon.oz.au>
In article <Cy97vB.3x0@research.canon.oz.au> andy@research.canon.oz.au
(Andy Newman) writes:
> We have quite a few "black" machines and a lot of the mousen are dying
> (a variety of problems). Replacements seem to be too expensive so I
> was wondering if anyone knows if there is an alternate mouse (e.g., a
> PC mouse) that can be used. H/w modifications are okay (we're good at
> that kind of thing;-). Can anybody assist?
This question has been asked WEEKLY for the past several weeks. Once
again, I'll post the information in my files (see below). In addition,
one of the companies dealing in used NeXT hardware is developing a cable
so that you don't have to solder your own.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
**********************************************************************
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch).
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:10:39 GMT
Actually, you can use a Logitech BUS mouse off of a PC
directly... no point in ripping spare switches out. I have a
Logitech Bus Mouseman on my non-ADB black slab and it works
wonderfully, and feels much better than the NeXT mouse anyway.
You'll have to slice off the 9-pin mini-DIN plug that comes
with it and stick an 8-pin one on. I took an Apple
Imagewriter cable and cut it in half. The pinouts have been
posted
------------------------------------------------------------
From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse on Black hardware
Date: 30 Jun 1994 05:48:15 GMT
It's a Logitech MouseMan Bus mouse, which comes with a ISA
card for PC's.
The following are pin placements for the connectors, looking
at them from the solder pin view (the end your looking at when
soldering on the cable). The numbers correspond the the 10 pin
single row connector within the Logitech mouse.
NEXT
------------
6 1 3
10 9 7
8 4
LOGITECH
------------
2 3 6
7 9 10 1
4 8
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Any problems with 1.6 GB disks on a slab?(speed of 1.7GB Micropolis)
Date: 28 Oct 1994 00:13:49 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38pfnt$fg7@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <38llbb$i4t@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <38llbb$i4t@news.doit.wisc.edu> jacobsen@arundel.doit.wisc.edu
writes:
> I'm contemplating purchasing a 1.7GB Micropolis AV drive for my slab.
> Could you (or someone else) please post the read/write numbers for the
> drive (you can get the numbers with DrivePerformance.app). Also, would
> you please comment on how hot the drive runs? I'm worried about my slab
> overheating.
I have no idea what the read/write numbers are. All I know is that the
drive works properly, right out of the box. It is reasonably quiet, much
quieter that the Conner 1.3 GB in my other NextStation. I have had no
heating problems with my Micropolis 1.7GB in either my NextStation mono or
my NextStation color.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: shunter@cais2.cais.com (Steve K Hunter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Infinate Boot Loop ?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 02:11:10 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <38pmju$h6b@news.cais.com>
I am trying to install NS3.2FIP onto a Zeos P90
with a Quantum 540Mb hard disk. I formatted it
down to 500Mb and the software installed. When
the system tries to boot the NeXT screen appears
then the system reboots. I formatted the disk
down to 420, loaded the system and the same
thing happens (in both cases I have a Dos
partition). Any ideas ? I will try formatting
only for a NeXT partition but that does not
solve my need for booting Next and Dos!
thanks
Steve Hunter
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 28 Oct 1994 04:11:02 GMT
Organization: GlobalCom
Message-ID: <38ptkm$9c2@goodnews.globalcom.net>
References: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) says:
*CHOMPED*
>Any comments or corrections are welcome.
>- db
I think that you are missing a piece of information that might
explain this (though I am not trying to excuse Next).
Linux does not use the same method of filesystem caching
that other Unices do. The algorithm trades integrity in the
event of a crash for speed. I am not certain of the details,
but I remember reading about it in the magazine Unix Review
in I believe one of the later summer issues, eg August, maybe
even September. Something about most unixes using
synchronous reads for integrity, while Linux uses asynchronous
reads. Hope I explained this properly.
>My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will release
>source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if the source
>code is released, I promise to praise NeXT at least once a day, and
>at noon to face in the general direction of Redwood City and pray.
Agreed.
Patrick
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 00:42:45 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wig855u00iV28CKcws@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38phv6$g7r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-94 Re: One
filesystem throughp.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
> On my system, iozone reports very fast read times (over 10mb/sec)
> for everything up to 20M. After that, it poops down to 1.4mb/sec.
The 1.4 is probably the true access speed of your drive independant of
cache improvement. How much memory do you have and how big the cache on
your drive and drive controller card?
> Overall, I've found the ByteBenchmark to be very reliable. Perhaps
> you should get a copy then critique it?
I have it. It has obvious flaws, as I detailed in a previous post.
> I've got a fair amount of faith in it (ie. whatever it's doing, it's not
> being fooled by caching/buffering likeiozone)
IOzone demonstrates very nicely the effects of the cache and what the
max file size the cache will help with is.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: pat@IslandNet.com (Pat Scanlan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: printers
Date: 27 Oct 1994 22:36:48 -0700
Organization: Island Net in Victoria, B.C. Canada 604-477-5163
Message-ID: <38q2lg$gvb@Island.amtsgi.bc.ca>
I am going to upgrade my printer and so far have whittled down my choice
to a Lexmark Colour Execjet 11C 600*300dpi Resolution (549.00 Canadian)
or a Cannon 600 Bubble Jet 360 x 360. (689.00 Canadian)
Both have a 2 year warranty. I am leaning toward the Bubble Jet because
each color cartridge is separate ($10.00) each so I wouldn't have to
replace the whole thing when one color was out. However, I was told today
that the Bubble Jet is now obsolete so will getting cartridges etc. be a
problem in the future?
I would like to buy my printer this week-end so any info sure would be
appreciated.
Thanks. Pat
From: tombm@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Tom Bryant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Here we go, Kernel Panic.
Date: 28 Oct 1994 08:20:19 GMT
Message-ID: <38qc83$ar9@news.kth.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
We have been trying install NS 3.2 on the following config:
Cache Computer Motherboard (Built in IDE interface disabled).
AMI BIOS
32Mb Ram
516 Quantum SCSI II HD
Adaptech 1542
Adaptec 2842
SB16 (Not present during installation)
Nec3x CD
ATI GUP Mach32 VL
We tried to install with the Adaptec 2842 VL card using NEXTÂs
Beta driver.. Unfortunately NS didnt recognize the card at all
(we tried all valid IRQ levels).
Ok lets not give up use the old trusty Adaptec 1542 B card
instead, ofcourse setup according to NEXTÂs recommendations.
The First part goes OK , It starts installing packages ,
when it have reached 50 % or so.. Kernel Panic.
All termination stuff is ofcourse strapped OK.
This config has worked perfectly for Win, OS/2, NT, Linux,Win 95
so I dont think its a hardware fault.. perhaps NS is incompatible
with the Motherboard.. Does anybody got any experience with Cache
Computer Motherboards ?
IÂm really running out of ideas so if any got any possible solution
please let me know.
-Ulf
ulf@initiera.upnet.se
From: rice@isis.imag.fr (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 11:46:19 +0100
Organization: IMAG, Grenoble, France
Message-ID: <rice.783340768@isis>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Can someone tell me precisely how much of the graphics functionality of
NEXTSTEP takes advantage of the NextDimension board? Okay, I presume all 2D
Postscript work is speeded up, but does it do anything for Renderman
(Quick or Photorealistic) performance?
--
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| Email: Jonathan.Rice@imag.fr | B.P. 53 |
| Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 |
| Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | FRANCE |
From: nunez@Inference.COM (Steve Nunez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on Sparc?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 06:25:09 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9410281126.AA00793@quaestor>
I'm about to spend some serious money on hardware, and have been
wanting to move to NS. I know that NS runs on HP, and have heard
rumors that it will be ported to Sparc. Does anyone know if this is
true? If so then any timeframe? I'm thinking of a Sparc5, but don't
want the HW to be out of date before NS is ported to it.
- Steve Nunez
nunez@inference.com
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:32:46 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38r22e$38j@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <38omcu$fh6@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <38oub2$7qo@crcnis1.unl.edu> <38pf8f$2m9@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
In article <38pf8f$2m9@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>
>Use the "nbu=#" kernel option on bootup. Please see the FAQ for more details.
>
As far as I can tell, this is no longer supported post-3.1. Instead, the
system determines how much RAM you have, and sets the number of buffers
accordingly.
- db
--
My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will
release source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if
the source code is released, I promise to praise NeXT on USENET at
least once a day...
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: On filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:47:57 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38r2ut$4gn@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <38ofqa$305@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <38ptkm$9c2@goodnews.globalcom.net>
I think most people are missing the point of my post. The point wasn't
to find a way that we could modify the benchmarks so as to break
Linux's caching strategy. If Linux is outperforming NEXTSTEP on tests,
it just means that Linux is outperforming NEXTSTEP on tests.
Even on hardware with a 50% slower processor, a bus 50% as wide, and
25% as fast... I mean, this is pretty impressive, don't you think?
Even if we modify the benchmarks to break the caching down, NEXTSTEP's
caching mechanism failed well before Linux's did (because on an equal
test, NEXTSTEP performed worse than Linux).
The point of the post was to make the statement: "Linux far outperforms
NEXTSTEP as a UNIX." NEXTSTEP may have much better development tools,
but Linux performs better.
I'm still following through on infidel+'s suggestion to change the
block count in the filesystem test. I'll post the results.
BTW: the Gecko running HPUX clocked in a 30 index on filesystem
reads/writes (compared to a high of 18 for Linux) when Byte reviewed
it. I'd be interested in seeing what the results for other HP hardware
running HPUX is (hint hint).
- darcy
(Can someone guess why I would post such a thing?)
--
My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will
release source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if
the source code is released, I promise to praise NeXT on USENET at
least once a day...
From: lef@ebony.woods.com (Lawrence E. Freil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Printing PostScript to Canon BJC-600 from NextStep.
Date: 28 Oct 1994 14:58:03 GMT
Organization: Dogwood Creek Farms
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <LEF.94Oct28105803@ebony.woods.com>
Hello,
I've seen a couple of postings recently requestiong information on
inexpensive color printing options and thought I would let people know
of the work I've done using a Canon BJC-600 and the Display PostScript
RIP on the NeXT.
I've managed to setup the NeXT system to print color using a Canon
BJC-600 printer and the Display PostScript interpreter. The method
used is outlined as follows:
a) Configure a printer using the NeXT Color Printer device
b) Use NetInfoManager to change:
Comm/CommClass to NXParallelComm
Comm/CommType to Parallel
Comm/OutputPath to the path of a named pipe created with
the GNU mkfifo program (I use /usr/spool/CanonBJC/fifo).
c) I then start a daemon I wrote called Next2cbj that listens on the
fifo for the start of a print job. When a print job is first
recognized it opens a pipe to a raw output queue and
converts the NeXT Color printer output to Canon format.
It has been working quite well for about four months now and I've
printed many pages of both b/w and color. In fact I've even setup my
MS-Windows system to print PostScript to the NeXT instead of using the
BJC-600 driver for Windows because the performance is about 5 times
faster using Adobe PostScript (even though the Windows machine is a
486 with 16 Megabytes of RAM!).
If anyone is interested in this package I have put it in my FTP
directory ftp://woods.com/pub/print/BJC-600.tar.gz. This includes the
sources to the Next2cbj filter and the GNU mkfifo program and my
startup script (rc.canon) that should be tacked on to the end of
rc.local.
BTW - All of the above work has been done on the 68040 NeXT system
running NextStep 3.2. It should work for 3.x for the 68040, but I'm
not sure about the NS/intel or NS/HP systems. I suspect it would work
just fine as long as you can setup a NeXT Color printer and get the
mkfifo program running. I am curious about these platforms so if you
either get it to work (or can't) please let me know.
--
Lawrence Freil Usenet/DDN:lef@woods.com
Essential Technical Services Inc. or lef@dogwood.atl.ga.us
1768 Old Country Place Phone:(404) 667-9274
Woodstock, GA 30188
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Subject: You are going to *love* the #9 IMAGINE 128 card...
Message-ID: <CyDv8n.qA@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:41:11 GMT
Number Nine has a new 128-bit graphics card that will blow your mind.
#9 IMAGINE 128
8MB VRAM:
24-bit (32-bit w/alpha) color at 1600x1200 @ 72Hz.
$???? retail / $???? list
4MB VRAM
24-bit (32-bit w/alpha) color at 1152x864 @ >72Hz.
$699 retail / $999 list
This PCI card has a 128-bit data path between the controller and VRAM.
It's the fastest card on the market: At SVGA resolution, it is 490%
faster than 64-bit graphics cards and 861% faster than 32-bit cards.
THIS CARD IS IDEAL FOR NEXTSTEP.
According to PC Computing, they have a NEXTSTEP driver but it's unclear
to me whether it will be available yet. Make sure you tell your NeXT
sales rep and Number Nine that you want this driver now.
Number Nine Corp.
+ 1 617 674-0009
Furthermore, be sure to check out the new Dell Dimensions which are
shipping with the 4MB IMAGINE 128!
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 28 Oct 1994 15:06:31 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38r41n$5tr@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <wig855u00iV28CKcws@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <wig855u00iV28CKcws@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-94 Re: One
>filesystem throughp.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
>> On my system, iozone reports very fast read times (over 10mb/sec)
>> for everything up to 20M. After that, it poops down to 1.4mb/sec.
>
>The 1.4 is probably the true access speed of your drive independant of
>cache improvement. How much memory do you have and how big the cache on
>your drive and drive controller card?
32M RAM, 64k on the disk cache, I think. Also, 1.4mb/sec is the
"true access speed of my drive under NEXTSTEP." The drive itself
will likely improve with a switch of operating systems (due to
NEXTSTEP's poor PCI support, and the hacks you have to do in order
to get a PCI SCSI driver to work).
>> Overall, I've found the ByteBenchmark to be very reliable. Perhaps
>> you should get a copy then critique it?
>
>I have it. It has obvious flaws, as I detailed in a previous post.
>> I've got a fair amount of faith in it (ie. whatever it's doing, it's not
>> being fooled by caching/buffering likeiozone)
>
>IOzone demonstrates very nicely the effects of the cache and what the
>max file size the cache will help with is.
Here's the results from a 10000 block test:
INDEX VALUES
TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 666.0 1.3
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 50942.0 2.8
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1271.0 2.1
Here's the results from a 2000 block test:
File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 1054.0 2.0
File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 53992.0 3.0
File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1200.0 2.0
The only thing that's changed significantly is the copy time. There's
no copy test in iozone, so I can't compare. BTW, *both* tests use
fsync().
Anyway, the Byte Benchmark as shipped was adequate. The suggestion
that 2000 blocks wasn't enough, and 10000 would be proved not to be
correct, and if fsync() is a bad thing to do, then iozone is also
guilty of this.
I still remain confident in the numbers produced by the Byte Benchmark,
and am still surprised that a machine with half the power of mine, but
running Linux would report significantly better numbers (not only on
filesystem stuff, but on several other tests (process creation, pipe
based context-switching, concurrent shell scripts, etc.) which tends
to point at a general performance advantage of Linux over NEXTSTEP.
- db
--
My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will
release source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if
the source code is released, I promise to praise NeXT on USENET at
least once a day...
From: matthews@everest1.everestech.com (Michael C. Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel EtherExpress PRO?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 15:57:36 GMT
Organization: SAIC Petrotechnical Division, Houston
Message-ID: <38r71g$bdi@uuneo.neosoft.com>
Summary: does it work with NSFIP?
I'm hoping to install NEXTSTEP on my (don't laugh) Packard Bell 60-MHz
Pentium machine, and on impulse yesterday I bought an Intel EtherExpress PRO
ISA ethernet card for it. When I got home I looked up EtherExpress on
NextAnswers and found that the documentation for the EtherExpress driver
doesn't mention the PRO card (only the EtherExpress, EtherExpress 16,
and EtherExpress 16C).
Does anybody know whether this driver (or any other) will work with
the EtherExpress PRO? Or should I take it back and buy another ethernet
card?
I'd also appreciate hearing advice and experiences from anyone who has
attempted to install NEXTSTEP on any Packard Bell Pentium/PCI box...
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:17:00 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UigGDwi00iUxM3Jrkq@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38r22e$38j@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-94 Re: One
filesystem throughp.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
>> Use the "nbu=#" kernel option on bootup. Please see the FAQ for more
>> details.
>
> As far as I can tell, this is no longer supported post-3.1. Instead, the
> system determines how much RAM you have, and sets the number of buffers
> accordingly.
True, NEXTSTEP now sets the number of buffers automatically based on the
amount of RAM in the system. However, you certainly can still use the
'nbuf=#' flag when starting to override the default value if you want
to, and this may be of use, particularly on machines which will be used
as dedicated NFS fileservers.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:30:02 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <oigGQ_K00iUx43JtUe@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38r41n$5tr@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-94 Re: One
filesystem throughp.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
> Here's the results from a 10000 block test:
>
> INDEX VALUES
> TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
>
> File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 666.0 1.3
> File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 50942.0 2.8
> File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1271.0 2.1
>
> Here's the results from a 2000 block test:
>
> File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 1054.0 2.0
> File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 53992.0 3.0
> File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1200.0 2.0
Which system was this, the NEXTSTEP one? Try rerunning the 10000 block
test on both systems and see what that does.
> The only thing that's changed significantly is the copy time. There's
> no copy test in iozone, so I can't compare. BTW, *both* tests use
> fsync().
The Byte benchmark uses fsync? Which version do you have?
> Anyway, the Byte Benchmark as shipped was adequate. The suggestion
> that 2000 blocks wasn't enough, and 10000 would be proved not to be
> correct, and if fsync() is a bad thing to do, then iozone is also
> guilty of this.
Fsync() is a necessary thing to do if you wish to perform valid testing
and filesystem throughput. Take a look at it's manpage. Anyway, the
source to the Byte Benchmark (v 3.11) that I have does _not_ use fsync,
and thus caching can significantly distort the results.
> I still remain confident in the numbers produced by the Byte Benchmark,
> and am still surprised that a machine with half the power of mine, but
> running Linux would report significantly better numbers (not only on
> filesystem stuff, but on several other tests (process creation, pipe
> based context-switching, concurrent shell scripts, etc.) which tends
> to point at a general performance advantage of Linux over NEXTSTEP.
That may well be true. However, benchmarking is a very complex subject,
and the results of a test don't mean much unless you take a very careful
look at what you're doing, what you're measuring with your tests, and
what the results mean. There's a FAQ about benchmarking I have
somewhere taht's very good at handling these issues-- maybe I'll be able
to find it and post it.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: On filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:41:54 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UigGbGO00iUx03Ju0A@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38r2ut$4gn@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-94 Re: On
filesystem throughpu.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
> I think most people are missing the point of my post. The point wasn't
> to find a way that we could modify the benchmarks so as to break
> Linux's caching strategy. If Linux is outperforming NEXTSTEP on tests,
> it just means that Linux is outperforming NEXTSTEP on tests.
That's fine as far as it goes. However, it's very easy to create
circumstances in which a test favors one side over the other (as IMHO is
the case with a 2 MB test file here), and the results from such a test
aren't particularly valid unless you also consider how often the
real-world use of the machine matches the testing conditions.
Secondly, a large number of OS vendors have deliberately designed their
OS's to perform better than they do in general under the specific
circumstances of standard tests. People have gone so far as to make
their compiler recognize the source for dhrystone and output
hand-optimized code which performs better. Simply changing the comments
in the header of the dhrystone source was enough to change the results
of the test!
(I don't mean to imply that Linux "cheats", here.)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: matthews@everest1.everestech.com (Michael C. Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress PRO?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 17:54:30 GMT
Organization: SAIC Petrotechnical Division, Houston
Message-ID: <38rdsm$hj3@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <38r71g$bdi@uuneo.neosoft.com>
In article <38r71g$bdi@uuneo.neosoft.com>,
Michael C. Matthews <matthews@everest1.everestech.com> wrote:
>I'm hoping to install NEXTSTEP on my (don't laugh) Packard Bell 60-MHz
>Pentium machine, and on impulse yesterday I bought an Intel EtherExpress PRO
>ISA ethernet card for it. When I got home I looked up EtherExpress on
>NextAnswers and found that the documentation for the EtherExpress driver
>doesn't mention the PRO card (only the EtherExpress, EtherExpress 16,
>and EtherExpress 16C).
>
>Does anybody know whether this driver (or any other) will work with
>the EtherExpress PRO? Or should I take it back and buy another ethernet
>card?
>
>I'd also appreciate hearing advice and experiences from anyone who has
>attempted to install NEXTSTEP on any Packard Bell Pentium/PCI box...
Sorry to followup to my own message, but I just realized that my return
mail address won't work, and my .signature was left off... the
Reply-To address above should work.
Thanks!
---
Mike Matthews Voice (713)973-1994 Fax (713)973-0347
matthews@everestech.com SAIC Petrotechnical Division
NeXTmail Welcome! 12727 Kimberley Suite 190 Houston, TX 77024
From: jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 18:47:52 GMT
Organization: Legent Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38rh0o$86d@booch.legent.com>
References: <rice.783340768@isis>
In article <rice.783340768@isis> rice@isis.imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) writes:
> Can someone tell me precisely how much of the graphics functionality of
> NEXTSTEP takes advantage of the NextDimension board? Okay, I presume all 2D
> Postscript work is speeded up, but does it do anything for Renderman
> (Quick or Photorealistic) performance?
I'm afraid you assumed wrongly. The ND does not in fact execute a postscript
interpreter. The i860 on the ND board is relegated to the role of bit-blit
processor. ALL rendering on an ND cube is performed by the 680x0 on the
motherboard.
There are some performance gains with an ND, but they are due to the advantage
of having the dedicated display memory on the ND board.
The plan *was* to have the i860 run DPS, but NeXT didn't get this working
before the ship date for ND.
_____________________________________________________________
John C. Randolph (408) 730-3500
jcr@sv.legent.com
Legent Corporation
710 LakeWay Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
"Hey %s! You're a Nazi, and you can't spell!"
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Neverending story: DAT on NeXT (black hw)
Date: 28 Oct 1994 17:15:42 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <38rbju$adq@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <38p95i$9js@pong.ping.at>
It is a problem with the fixed block setting in the NS tape driver. You
need to use the subsequent program with a -i flat to make it work.
Regards,
/ivo
/*
* mtset - set SCSI tape driver characteristics
*
* setmtd - set SCSI tape driver to a fixed block size
* by John L. Chmielewski
* Tue Feb 19, 1991
*
* Modified to take drive name argument and default to non-rewinding mode:
* by David D. Johnson (ddj@gradient.com)
* Sun Feb 24, 1991
*
* Modified to use switches to change tape device name and
characteristics:
* mtset [-d name] [-f size] [-i]
* -d tape device name (default /dev/nrst0)
* -f Sets the driver to fixed block mode, uses
* argument of block size in bytes (default 512 bytes),
* Variable block mode is default.
* -i Inhibit illegal length (default is to allow illegal length)
*/
/*
USE AT YOUR OUR RISK.
I NOT NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEM CAUSED BY THIS PROGRAM.
*/
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <nextdev/scsireg.h>
#define RSTDEVICE "/dev/nrst0"
#define BLOCKSIZE 512
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
extern int optind;
extern char *optarg;
int fd;
int defsize = BLOCKSIZE;
int size = BLOCKSIZE;
char *deffile = RSTDEVICE;
char *file = RSTDEVICE;
u_int mode = MTIOCVARBLK;
u_int inhibit = MTIOCALILL;
char c;
while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "d:f:i")) != EOF) {
switch (c) {
case 'd':
file = optarg;
break;
case 'f':
mode = MTIOCFIXBLK;
size = atoi(optarg);
break;
case 'i':
inhibit = MTIOCINILL;
break;
default:
fprintf(stderr,
"usage: %s [-d device] [-f block-size]
[-i]\n",
argv[0]);
fprintf(stderr,
" -d tape device name (default %s)\n",
deffile);
fprintf(stderr,
" -f set fix block mode with size (default
size %d)\n",
defsize);
fprintf(stderr,
" -i Inhibit illegal length\n");
fprintf(stderr,
" default: variable block mode, allow
illegal length\n");
exit(1);
}
}
if ((fd = open(file, O_RDWR)) < 0) {
perror(file);
exit(1);
}
if (ioctl(fd, mode, &size) < 0) {
perror("ioctl");
exit(1);
}
if (ioctl(fd, inhibit) < 0) {
perror("ioctl");
exit(1);
}
(void) close(fd);
return 0;
}
In article <38p95i$9js@pong.ping.at> Wolfgang Ambrosch <ambrosch@ping.at>
writes:
> In article <38ll4o$duc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes:
> > Any recommendations, warnings, anything? Few lines will do.
>
> I am using a HP 4mm DAT/DDS Tape Drive (Capacity withouth compression
2GB
> on 90m tapes) on NSFIP; writing works withouth any problems with all
> programs (tar, dump, ...). But: I have to try very often to read a tape
> written with the "restore" command. I normally instantly get a "I/O"
error
> that after a varying number of retries (10-30) suddenly disappears. It
is
> not a real problem since I very seldom have to use the "restore"
command,
> but it is annoying anyway.
> --
> Wolfgang Ambrosch | ambrosch@ping.at
> Jaegerhausgasse 16 | Fax : +43 2252 47 690
> A-2500 Baden | Phone: +43 2252 46 817
> Austria | NeXT-Mail and MIME welcome
--
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: bradshaw@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Michelle Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Advice Running NEXTSTEP on an HP
Date: 28 Oct 1994 19:37:39 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <38rju3$fbh@hermes.dna.mci.com>
We are going to be getting a new file server with 8 GB (yeah!). Unfortunately,
it's not a certified or even listed system. Has anyone out there installed
NEXTSTEP on something called an HP NetServer LM Series? I'm specifically
interested in any problems with NFS on a non-listed system or problems with
NEXTSTEP handling that much disk.
Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated!!
Michelle
Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.periphs,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computer.mac,misc.forsale.computer.other,misc.forsale.computer.pc-clone,misc.forsale.computer.workstation
From: ehc2600@weiser.sbi.com (Ed Hu)
Subject: FYI-Best price on 1GB SCSI disk drive
Message-ID: <CyEAD3.JHr@meteor.sbi.com>
Keywords: 1GB SCSI disk drive
Sender: news@meteor.sbi.com
Organization: Salomon Inc, NJ
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 18:07:50 GMT
I am posting this again, because I am still receiving Emails asking all kind
of questions about the drive, specs, prices .... Please!! I am NOT a
vendor. I merely want to inform everyone about this good price. Just like
some else told me few weeks ago and allowed me & all my friends to take
advange of the deal.
The drive is Seagate ST11200N FastSCSI-2 1.2GB 3.5". The price is $450.00
including S/H (COD only). The name of the Co. is "International Supplies" &
phone number is (718)539-6666 (no Email address). Quantity 5-9 is $425.00,
10 units & up is $400.00/ea. That's all the info I have.
I bought 7 all together (2 & 5), and have no problem. I thought it was
and still is a good deal. If you think the same, plz call the place &
order it.
Ed Hu - Systems Support
Salomon Inc.
745 Route 3
Rutherford, N.J 07070
E-mail : ehc2600@weiser.sbi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jfm@jupiter.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (John F. McGowan)
Subject: newscan 1.45 - Find only articles on hardware that you are interested in!
Message-ID: <CyEBIo.KJH@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 18:32:47 GMT
ANNOUNCEMENT
NEWSCAN: A NETWORK NEWS SCANNER
RELEASE 1.45
Announcing release 1.45 of newscan. newscan 1.45 has been posted
as a shell archive on the ALT.SOURCES newsgroups.
newscan scans NetNews newsgroups for articles containing matches to
keywords and regular expressions. It helps overcome information overload
in the Internet newsgroups by selecting articles according to keyword and
pattern matches. The user can then read the selected articles.
newscan is a Perl program that will run on most Unix platforms
supporting Perl. It does not need to be built or compiled. All it requires
is a working perl interpreter. In some cases the user may need to edit the
first line of the newscan Perl script to point it to the user's local Perl
interpreter.
Uses:
* Are you looking for a job. newscan selects job postings
from misc.jobs.offered according to skills to be used in job.
* Selecting articles in a newsgroup discussing a subtopic.
For example, in a newsgroup alt.cats, the user could search for
articles containing the keyword Siamese to select articles
dealing with only Siamese cats.
* Are you trying to find information on a piece of
hardware that you are considering buying? Or need information on
debugging or upgrading said hardware? newscan can select only
the articles mentioning your hardware!
For example, you are looking for information on the
NEC triple-speed CD-ROM. Use newscan to search
COMP.SYS.IBM.PC.HARDWARE.CD-ROM for /NEC\s+3X/.
* Excluding articles containing a topic, such as flame
war, that you are utterly sick of. newscan can exclude articles
based on a keyword.
####################################################################
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black HW help and MC68040 Qs!
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:16:39 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <godwin.396.00AE46C3@unixg.ubc.ca>
Hello!
I am contemplating getting a 030 cube...hmmmm I know it would be SLOWER then
my p90 NS/FIP but I am getting it to satisfy my technical curiousity, maybe
getting a 040 and ND while at it.=) and put it along with my collection of the
still kicking Steve Jobian HW...Apple2 and the MAC128K;-) Hey I still play
Lode Runner on my Apple2 and it is way better than the new IBM ones;-)
Anyways I need the Black HW FAQ! Can some kind soul send it to me?? Last
time I read it was last year but they doesn't seem to be posting them
anymore=( and I also need answers to the following questions:
1. Once I get the 040 MB...the 030 MB becomes the fax server right? What
happend if I also add an ND board?
2. Since the Motorola's new 66 MHz operates essentially a Intel
DX2 fashion...33Mhz External Clock speed chip..but a 66MHZ
core...Theroratically if the CPU on the moto board is a PGA format ...I can
essentially replace it with a 66Mhz 040 right?
3. The 66Mhz 040 is the last of the 040 Moto is going to release right? I am
asking this cuz I don't think the 060 upgrade is worth the time...with the
advent of SPARC NS coming out...or possibly the PPC. But with the lower 040
prices....see the back of MacUser...think 66 might still be worth it.
Thanks for your help! and oh one thing the next cube does look a hell lot
better than the other Steve Jobian systems;)
Godwin
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 28 Oct 1994 20:50:16 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <38ro68$64e@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <38pf8f$2m9@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Ross Garrett Cutler (rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu) wrote:
: Operator41 (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote:
: : Now, NS has uses a STATIC buffer cache and does NOT buffer writes.
: : That's a biggie!
I thought that under Mach all file I/O is mapped to the VM system so that
*all* of memory is automagically shared between IO buffers and program
memory.
: : I've always wonderred how to twiddle with the buffer settings in NS.
: : Since you've mentioned that they can be changed, how does one do
: : it?
: Use the "nbu=#" kernel option on bootup. Please see the FAQ for more details.
And that this just pre-allocated the minimum # of blocks to reserve for I/O,
not the total amount used.
: Ross Cutler
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
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From: lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Kevin G. Low)
Subject: WTB: Black NeXT expertise if you're near St.Louis
Message-ID: <CyEHBF.9Bw@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[7752]
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 20:36:38 GMT
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
I sold my beloved Turbo NeXT slab to a fella near St.Louis, MO. It
worked perfectly when I shipped it. When he got it, first the CD-ROM
wouldn't work, then he determined the monitor (21" color) had been
"focused inward", then the computer would not respond to a CMD-CMD-~,
and now he claims the hard disk is hosed. I would like to buy your
services as a hardware/software expert to go have a look. You may be
required to erase the entire hard disk and reload from scratch. He has
another next CD-ROM that works. I want to know how much experience you
have and how much it will cost to have you do this for me. More info
available if you're selected to do the job, or earlier if you need it
to determine the price. Obviously, I'd prefer those that didn't have
to add travel time to the price.
--Kevin
Lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu
From: frederic@parc.xerox.com (Ron Frederick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,ba.general
Subject: NeXT monitor repair shop recommendations in SF Bay Area?
Date: 28 Oct 1994 21:57:44 GMT
Organization: Xerox Palo Alto Research Center
Message-ID: <38rs4o$c9t@news.parc.xerox.com>
Keywords: next repair
My NeXTstation Color 17" monitor recently just quit on me. I didn't actually
see it die, but suddenly there's absolutely no picture. Power cycling hasn't
helped. It might be something as simple as a fuse, but I'm not all that
inclined to go poking around inside it.
Does anyone have any recommendations for places in the San Francisco Bay
Area that might be able to repair this thing? It needn't be NeXT-specific,
as long as they can handle workstation monitors.
Thanks in advance!
--
--
Ron Frederick
frederick@parc.xerox.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Message-ID: <1994Oct28.231356.24906@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <38rh0o$86d@booch.legent.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 23:13:56 GMT
In article <38rh0o$86d@booch.legent.com> jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
writes:
>In article <rice.783340768@isis> rice@isis.imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) writes:
>> Can someone tell me precisely how much of the graphics functionality of
>> NEXTSTEP takes advantage of the NextDimension board? Okay, I presume all 2D
>> Postscript work is speeded up, but does it do anything for Renderman
>> (Quick or Photorealistic) performance?
>
>I'm afraid you assumed wrongly. The ND does not in fact execute a postscript
>interpreter. The i860 on the ND board is relegated to the role of bit-blit
>processor. ALL rendering on an ND cube is performed by the 680x0 on the
>motherboard.
Well, the interpreter doesn't run on the ND, but the code that renders the
graphics primitives generated by DPS does run on the ND.
>There are some performance gains with an ND, but they are due to the advantage
>of having the dedicated display memory on the ND board.
>
>The plan *was* to have the i860 run DPS, but NeXT didn't get this working
>before the ship date for ND.
I can't remember for sure, but I don't think that it was ever the plan to have
all of DPS running on the i860. It was a long time ago, but my recollection is
that it was always planned to have the interpreter on the host and the lower
level code on the i860. mpaque probably remembers.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: I want to spend about $3000.
Message-ID: <thompsonCyEM0w.CLx@netcom.com>
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:19:43 GMT
I'm buying a machine to run DOS/Windows, but it should also run
NEXTSTEP. I have a max price of around $3000, NOT including monitor.
I know I want a P/90 with 32mb ram and 1+ gig of disk. Beyond that,
the other components are important -- I'd like it to have fast video
and SCSI. Networking is currently unccessary.
I've you've got a system something like this for approximately the
price, I'd appreciate hearing about the SPECIFICS of what makes it up...
e.g. brand/model/version of each component. Can you help?
thanks,
Eric
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Date: 29 Oct 1994 02:52:59 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38sdeb$8i@rosie.next.com>
References: <38rh0o$86d@booch.legent.com>
In article <38rh0o$86d@booch.legent.com> jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
writes:
> I'm afraid you assumed wrongly. The ND does not in fact execute a
> postscript interpreter. The i860 on the ND board is relegated to
> the role of bit-blit processor. ALL rendering on an ND cube is
> performed by the 680x0 on the motherboard.
Actually, this turns out not to be the case. The following is a brief
overview of what the NeXTdimension board does for Interactive Renderman
and Display PostScript.
Display PostScript and the NeXTdimension board
The Display PostScript system can be (very broadly) broken into
two pieces, the PostScript interpreter and the device. The interpreter
processes the language, and passes marking, imaging, and (in the NeXT
version) compositing directions to the device layer.
The device layer takes the high level marking, imaging, and
compositing operations and (eventually) converts these to bitmap level
operations. The Display PostScript system spends the majority of it's
time down here.
In the case of the NeXTdimension board, the device layer is
implemented on the NeXTdimension board. Marking, imaging, and compositing
operations are asynchronously transmitted to the NeXTdimension for
processing while additional PostScript is interpreted on the 68K
processor. A good degree of parallelism is achieved in normal operation.
The NXPing() AppKit call is interpreted by the Display PostScript system
as a request to synchronize the NeXTdimension, PostScript interpreter, and
app, and will not return until PostScript rendering is complete on the
NeXTdimension.
Quick Renderman and the NeXTdimension board
Renderman uses a similar architecture. The 3DKit and RI C binding
reside on the m68k (otherwise you couldn't link with them). Depending on
the setup of the Renderman context, a RIB stream can be spooled to
Photorealistic Renderman running on the host CPU (the m68K for black
hardware), or to a Quick Renderman implementation loaded on demand into
the Window Server. The Quick Renderman implementation in the Window
Server may then, if the target window is on a NeXTdimension, forward the
rendering operations to a Quick Renderman context running on the
NeXTdimension board.
The NeXTdimension board performs all rendering operations for
windows displayed by the board. Everything from high level geometry
tesselation on down to marking the pixels is done on the NeXTdimension.
Mike Paquette
======
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From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: I want to spend about $3000.
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 94 03:09:33 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <xu+WzWF.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <thompsonCyEM0w.CLx@netcom.com>
Eric:
May we suggest the following options?
Intel Premiere II 90 Mhz Motherboard
AMiBIOS 1.00.10AX1
32 MB RAM
540 MB SCSI HDD
1.44 MB Floppy
Logitech Bus Mouse
Lexmark 101 Keyboard
NCR PCI SCSI II Controller
Midtower Case [ tool-free enclosure]
Diamond Stealth 64 2 MB VRAM PCI Video
Base System Above: $3586.00
or $3922.00 w/ 1.0Gig SCSI HDD
or $2999.0 w/ 540 MB SCSI HDD & 24 MB
RAM
Regards,
eCesys, Inc.
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Turtle Beach sound cards
Date: 29 Oct 1994 08:20:53 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <38t0l5$4c4@news.bu.edu>
Hi, I'm considering the purchase ofa Turtle beach sound card to do some work
with the musickit under intel hardware. I was curious about people's opnions
regarding this card, both pro and con, and what might be the other options
that are available to me if I want to play with some of the cool software
that's available under NeXTSTEP.
Right now I have a PAS16, which does not seem to be supported overmuch in any
particular manner except a glorified <beep> sound, which instead makes a music
<tink> in 16bit cd-quality sound. But, I'm at a loss to get overly excited
about that. I am also curious whether there are drivers that support the
Turtle Beach card just as a general NS sound device, so that I can chuck the
PAS16, in the event that I buy the turtle-beach. I'm running out of slots
and would prefer not having to keep 2 soundcards installed, which is a little
bit of overkill for my purposes.
thanks
From: vlad@myhost.subdomain.domain (Rakesh Malik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP Crash
Date: 28 Oct 1994 17:23:07 GMT
Organization: String to put in the Organization Header
Message-ID: <38rc1r$m12@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
Today the system froze up on me, and now it won't boot, saying it
can't find the superblock, or the file Config.System or Config.Default.
I don't have a SCSI that is supported (I had to borrow one to install it),
so I don't know what else I can do. Any advice?
Thanks.
-Rakesh
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSFIP Crash
Date: 29 Oct 1994 09:40:23 -0400
Organization: Public Access Internet & UNIX
Message-ID: <38tjc7$frc@panix.com>
References: <38rc1r$m12@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
In article <38rc1r$m12@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>,
Rakesh Malik <vlad@myhost.subdomain.domain> wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'd suggest you configure your mailer/news reader with your proper domain.
> Today the system froze up on me, and now it won't boot, saying it
>can't find the superblock, or the file Config.System or Config.Default.
>I don't have a SCSI that is supported (I had to borrow one to install it),
>so I don't know what else I can do. Any advice?
You should post what your hardware configuration is now so that someone
can give you more help :-)
Alec
--
Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet
chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jcassidy@quark.uwaterloo.ca (James Cassidy)
Subject: Help with rapid video display
Message-ID: <CyFtzz.3MM@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 14:09:34 GMT
If anyone has any information/wisdom about speeding up the display
of muliple images, I would appreciate them dropping me a line.
I have written a frame grabber object that pulls digitized images
from a SCSI frame grabber. I would like to display these images
as quickly as possible in order to facilitate operations such as
focusing. I have seen the Digital Eye frame grabber software present
images at what looks like about 6-8 frames per second. What I can't
determine is how it is doing this so quickly.
I have tried placing the images in the data portion of an NXBitmapImageRep
and issuing a 'recache' message, but this isn't very fast at all.
Any insights on this problem would be very appreciated. If I get a
spectrum of solutions, I can post a summary if there is any interest.
Regards
Jim.
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does CANON 150 Portables work with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 29 Oct 1994 15:03:28 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38to80$p3l@news.blkbox.com>
References: <1994Oct28.004314.29783@mixcom.com>
In article <1994Oct28.004314.29783@mixcom.com> alberto@smartsoft.com
(Manuel Alberto Ricart) writes:
> I sent some email to info@talus.com over a week ago, and no response.
> I don't think that I would buy a product from someone that doesn't
answer their
> email....... Something about custumer support.
>
> ---
> Alberto Ricart
> SmartSoft, Inc.
> 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
> alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
We certainly apologize for not getting back to you. Color brochures on the
laptop will go out to you on Monday, along with a price list.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), the staff here has been swamped with
requests for information on the new color laptops and they're behind on
getting info out. To help solve this problem we're adding two new
employees on Monday, one in sales and one more in support.
We really are doing our best to respond to both sales and support
questions as quickly as possible. If you don't get an immediate response
by email in the future, you might want to give me a call or send email
directly to me and I'll make sure it gets handled.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
(713) 578-1434
steve@talus.com
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 29 Oct 1994 17:34:42 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38u13i$pis@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <UigGDwi00iUxM3Jrkq@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <UigGDwi00iUxM3Jrkq@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-94 Re: One
>filesystem throughp.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
>>> Use the "nbu=#" kernel option on bootup. Please see the FAQ for more
>>> details.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, this is no longer supported post-3.1. Instead, the
>> system determines how much RAM you have, and sets the number of buffers
>> accordingly.
>
>True, NEXTSTEP now sets the number of buffers automatically based on the
>amount of RAM in the system. However, you certainly can still use the
>'nbuf=#' flag when starting to override the default value if you want
>to, and this may be of use, particularly on machines which will be used
>as dedicated NFS fileservers.
When we upgraded our machines to 3.2, this no longer worked. I had set
all the buffer counts to be quite large, and they allcame up as
fractions of the system RAM, not what I had specified. The nbuf was
stored as the default boot command. Has anyone else shared this
experience? If not, I'll go plunk around with it again and see if I
can get it to work.
- db
--
My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will
release source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if
the source code is released, I promise to praise NeXT on USENET at
least once a day...
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: 29 Oct 1994 17:40:11 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <38u1dr$pus@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <oigGQ_K00iUx43JtUe@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <oigGQ_K00iUx43JtUe@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-94 Re: One
>filesystem throughp.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
>> Here's the results from a 10000 block test:
>> [ results ]
>
>Which system was this, the NEXTSTEP one? Try rerunning the 10000 block
>test on both systems and see what that does.
That was the NEXTSTEP one, and I don't have access to the Linux system,
which is kinda hampering me from doing this properly. If someone has
a dual boot Linux/NEXTSTEP system, perhaps they'd do a better job.
>> The only thing that's changed significantly is the copy time. There's
>> no copy test in iozone, so I can't compare. BTW, *both* tests use
>> fsync().
>
>The Byte benchmark uses fsync? Which version do you have?
>Fsync() is a necessary thing to do if you wish to perform valid testing
>and filesystem throughput. Take a look at it's manpage. Anyway, the
>source to the Byte Benchmark (v 3.11) that I have does _not_ use fsync,
>and thus caching can significantly distort the results.
Oh... I'm mistaken. I thought *you* said previously that the BB used
fsync(). I knew that iozone did, but not the BB.
- db
--
My new sig: I hereby promise to never flame NeXT again if they will
release source code for the PhoneKit into the public domain. Also: if
the source code is released, I promise to praise NeXT on USENET at
least once a day...
From: sfoster@unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Do the 2740 beta drivers work?
Date: 29 Oct 1994 12:59:38 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <38u62q$bmf@carina.unm.edu>
Keywords: adpatec 2740 HINT 3X
I'm trying a first installation of NextStep from NEC 3Xp controlled by an
Adaptec 2742T. The beta driver can't even find the controller. This setup
has worked with other operating systems such as NT. Does anyone have the 2740
3Xp combination working?
My motherboard has a HINT chipset which does not conform the EISA standard
for triggering (edge/level,whatever). But my EISA configuration files have been
modified to correct this problem and they work except with the latest Adaptec
drivers. If you have the 2740 working do you know what motherboard you have
and what chipset it has?
The moral of this story is DON'T buy a COMTRADE computer! They claimed I was
getting an EISA machine even though the motherboard manufacture tells me they
make no EISA motherboards.
thanks for you help,
Scott
From: joshkerr@ix.netcom.com (Joshua Kerr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cube with no memory and HD.
Date: 29 Oct 1994 19:55:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <38u9cc$i99@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Can I use the 8mb 72pin simms in my Nec Express II ST pc computer in my
Non turbo 040 cube? I also have a Full height SCSI2 2.1 gig hard drive.
Can I use that in the same cube?
Josh
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: One filesystem throughput, and crappy UNIX
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 17:02:34 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YigfVee00iV384DExZ@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <38u13i$pis@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-Oct-94 Re: One
filesystem throughp.. by Darcy BROCKBANK@cs.mcgil
> >True, NEXTSTEP now sets the number of buffers automatically based on the
> >amount of RAM in the system. However, you certainly can still use the
> >'nbuf=#' flag when starting to override the default value if you want
> >to, and this may be of use, particularly on machines which will be used
> >as dedicated NFS fileservers.
>
> When we upgraded our machines to 3.2, this no longer worked. I had set
> all the buffer counts to be quite large, and they allcame up as
> fractions of the system RAM, not what I had specified. The nbuf was
> stored as the default boot command. Has anyone else shared this
> experience? If not, I'll go plunk around with it again and see if I
> can get it to work.
I just retried it on my 32MB mono slab (default nbuf = 204) running:
% cat /usr/lib/NextStep/software_version ~
3.2
Lightning5S
...and I was able to set the number of kernel buffers to both 48 and 224
(256 - 32) either via the boot command line or by setting the default
boot command; it worked perfectly in all four cases.
YMMV.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Date: 29 Oct 1994 23:58:38 GMT
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
Message-ID: <38unje$3dm@earth.usa.net>
I have been reading a lot of articles about clock doubling Macintoch
68040 machines like the Quadra 610 and 650 models. Macworld says that it
is basically a safe upgrade.
What would happen if the same procedure was done to a NeXTStation Turbo
Color?
Has anyone dared to try this? Is this a FAQ?
ericd
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Neverending story: DAT on NeXT (black hw)
Date: 29 Oct 1994 13:59:35 -0700
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Message-ID: <38ud3n$r2e@triton.ucsd.edu>
References: <38ll4o$duc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <38p95i$9js@pong.ping.at>
In article <38p95i$9js@pong.ping.at> ambrosch@ping.at writes:
>
>I am using a HP 4mm DAT/DDS Tape Drive (Capacity withouth compression 2GB
>on 90m tapes) on NSFIP; writing works withouth any problems with all
>programs (tar, dump, ...). But: I have to try very often to read a tape
>written with the "restore" command. I normally instantly get a "I/O" error
>that after a varying number of retries (10-30) suddenly disappears. It is
>not a real problem since I very seldom have to use the "restore" command,
>but it is annoying anyway.
>--
The "restore" command is, of course, used to read tapes that were
written by the "dump" command. "dump" uses a default block size of
10kB.
When the "restore" program was new, (9-track tape drives), it was easy
for a program to determine the block size of its input tape, thus
"restore" tries to automatically sense the block size. This does not
work well on DAT drives.
The solution is to use the "b" option to "restore" to specify block size.
carl
--
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{decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu
clowenstein@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew)
Subject: Re: Which Toner Cartridge for NeXT Printer? ("EP-S" not specific enough)
Message-ID: <edewCyGu72.96o@netcom.com>
Sender: Eric Dew
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <389a3k$2b4@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 03:11:26 GMT
In article <389a3k$2b4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) writes:
>I walked into the EE store at Stanford yesterday to purchase a
>replacement EP-S type toner cartridge for my NeXT printer. The
>NeXT user manual says to purchase an "EP-S" type cartridge (indicating
>that it is a standard type made by HP). But none of the HP printers
>sold in the store indicated that they were "EP-S"; instead, I saw the
>following model numbers: 92274A, 92275A, 92285A, 92291A, and 92295A.
> Does anyone know which of these HP toner cartridge models will fit
>into the NeXT printer?
> Thank you. (I checked the FAQs, but it wasn't specific either---will
>only one HP model work in the LaserJet III?).
>Ed
Office Depot in Mountain View (off of El Monte and El Camino) sells EP-S
toner cartridges from Canon (who is the maker of the NeXT printer). $86.++
and tax. Go to their laser toner cartridge aisle. Look around for the EP-S
I didn't buy it from there, but when my toner runs out, I'll probably
buy it there.
EDEW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Message-ID: <bchin.783492082@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <38unje$3dm@earth.usa.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 04:41:22 GMT
bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes:
>I have been reading a lot of articles about clock doubling Macintoch
>68040 machines like the Quadra 610 and 650 models. Macworld says that it
>is basically a safe upgrade.
If I read the product brochures right, there seems to be a clock doubled
68040LC (?). That means its missing the math coprocessor and runs twice
as fast inside as a standard 68040. Without the mach coprocessor however,
NEXTSTEP won't run. I'd love to see a clock double standard 68040.
Yes, I'm aware that standard 68040 use a doubled clock, but I'm actually
talking about a 68040 that runs internally double clocked but missing
the math coprocessor.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: anyone know of a "black box" that can do quad D/A??
Message-ID: <38431@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>
Date: 30 Oct 94 16:01:01 GMT
Sender: news@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
I'm running NS 3.0 on a NeXT Turbo Cube (Mc 68040) and have a
NeXT Dimension card, and a A/D64x.
I have an application in which I need to create an interleaved
digital sound stream (44.1 kHz sampling rate) which consists of four
monaural channels. For example, this stream is of the form
ABCDABCDABCDABCDABCDABCDABCDABCD ...
I then need to have each channel played separately on a four speaker system.
Onsequently, all the "A"s go to the 1st speaker, the "B"s to the 2nd speaker,
the "C"s go to the 3rd speaker, and the "D"s go to the 4th speaker.
Unfortunately, the NeXT hardware supports only a 2-channel
system (i.e., a stereo signal). Does anyone know of a "black box" that I can
attach to the DSP port of the NeXT that will accept a four channel interleaved
sound stream and dimultiplex and do D-A
to four output line jacks?
If there isn't such a beast, is there a company out there that can build
it an develop the necessary software device driver(s) at a reasonable cost?
I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions.
Rob Arrabito
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: tim@apple.com (Tim Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Date: 30 Oct 1994 15:06:57 GMT
Organization: IBM/Motorola Somerset Design Center, Austin, TX
Message-ID: <390cqh$t5u@cerberus.ibmoto.com>
References: <bchin.783492082@news.andi.org>
Bill Chin writes:
| bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes:
|
| >I have been reading a lot of articles about clock doubling Macintoch
| >68040 machines like the Quadra 610 and 650 models. Macworld says that it
| >is basically a safe upgrade.
|
| If I read the product brochures right, there seems to be a clock doubled
| 68040LC (?). That means its missing the math coprocessor and runs twice
| as fast inside as a standard 68040. Without the mach coprocessor however,
| NEXTSTEP won't run. I'd love to see a clock double standard 68040.
|
| Yes, I'm aware that standard 68040 use a doubled clock, but I'm actually
| talking about a 68040 that runs internally double clocked but missing
| the math coprocessor.
There is no such thing as a "clock-doubled" 68040, LC or not. Apple is
advertising some '040-based machines as "dual clocked", but they are no
different from stock '040 processors.
--
-- Tim Olson
Apple Computer Inc. / Somerset
From: kochab@news.delphi.com (KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: printers of black hrdware
Date: 30 Oct 1994 16:42:06 -0000
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Message-ID: <390icu$o8m@news.delphi.com>
Summary: need device drivers for non standard printers
Keywords: printers
I would like to use an HP 500 series inkjet with my black hardware.
Is there any place to get the software required to drive such a printer?
What other printers can I use that wont cost me 800$?
Any advice would be great. Thanks...
Please respond to kochab@delphi.com
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which Toner Cartridge for NeXT Printer? ("EP-S" not specific enough)
Date: 30 Oct 1994 12:52:48 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <390mhg$qv6@panix3.panix.com>
References: <389a3k$2b4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <edewCyGu72.96o@netcom.com>
You want the 95A. It's in the FAQs BTW.
In <edewCyGu72.96o@netcom.com> edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) writes:
>In article <389a3k$2b4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) writes:
>>I walked into the EE store at Stanford yesterday to purchase a
>>replacement EP-S type toner cartridge for my NeXT printer. The
>>NeXT user manual says to purchase an "EP-S" type cartridge (indicating
>>that it is a standard type made by HP). But none of the HP printers
>>sold in the store indicated that they were "EP-S"; instead, I saw the
>>following model numbers: 92274A, 92275A, 92285A, 92291A, and 92295A.
>> Does anyone know which of these HP toner cartridge models will fit
>>into the NeXT printer?
>> Thank you. (I checked the FAQs, but it wasn't specific either---will
>>only one HP model work in the LaserJet III?).
>>Ed
>Office Depot in Mountain View (off of El Monte and El Camino) sells EP-S
>toner cartridges from Canon (who is the maker of the NeXT printer). $86.++
>and tax. Go to their laser toner cartridge aisle. Look around for the EP-S
>I didn't buy it from there, but when my toner runs out, I'll probably
>buy it there.
>EDEW
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on Sparc?
Date: 30 Oct 1994 17:51:11 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <390mef$i2@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <9410281126.AA00793@quaestor>
In article <9410281126.AA00793@quaestor> nunez@Inference.COM (Steve Nunez)
writes:
> I'm about to spend some serious money on hardware, and have been
> wanting to move to NS. I know that NS runs on HP, and have heard
> rumors that it will be ported to Sparc. Does anyone know if this is
> true? If so then any timeframe? I'm thinking of a Sparc5, but don't
> want the HW to be out of date before NS is ported to it.
I recently was mailed a publication (I think everybody who signed up for
expo got it -- Object World or something like that) which said that a beta
version of NextStep would be out very early next year for Sparc.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: st001766@brownvm.brown.edu (Jamie Dwyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: More than 1 PCI video card at a time
Date: 30 Oct 1994 20:12:01 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Message-ID: <390umh$7ok@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
I currently am running a pentium system with WinNT and I would really
like to get into NS FIP (in fact, that is why I purchased the pentium,
an upgrade from a 386). However, I have a Matrox MGA video card that
does not support the linear frame buffering which NS requires. Does
anyone know of the possibility of installing a second video card, for
use with NextStep? I am thinking of something inexpensive (ATI GUP or
the like; I already spent big $$ for the Matrox card). What kinds of
problems can I expect during installation of NS?? Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Jamie Dwyer
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cube with no memory and HD.
Date: 30 Oct 1994 20:38:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39107g$25g@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <38u9cc$i99@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In article <38u9cc$i99@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> joshkerr@ix.netcom.com
(Joshua Kerr) writes:
> Can I use the 8mb 72pin simms in my Nec Express II ST pc computer in my
> Non turbo 040 cube?
No. The nonturbo cube takes 30 pin SIMMs.
> I also have a Full height SCSI2 2.1 gig hard drive.
> Can I use that in the same cube?
Probably. There is space, and most SCSI2 drives are compatible. Since
your drive is over 2 GB, you may have to partition it into two chunks of
<2GB each.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: errolg@ix.netcom.com (Errol Ginsberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware
Subject: Monitor for HP 712/80
Date: 30 Oct 1994 22:24:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3916ei$25b@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
We have an HP 712/80 with NEXTSTEP installed, but no monitor, on loan with
no docs.
Are PC monitors compatible with this box?
What scan rate monitor is required - I tried a 15" MAG multisync and it does
not work.
Any ideas?
Please send email and respond to the above newsgroups. (I checked the FAQ - no
info there).
Errol Ginsberg
Email: errol@ridgeback.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: jumpering Fujitsu M2694ESA for NextStation
Message-ID: <1994Oct29.151311.20812@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Keywords: disk fujitsu harddisk next nextstation
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 15:13:11 GMT
Hi NeXT-land,
I just got my new 1GB Fujitsu M2694ESA, but after reading the doc's I'm
not 100% sure about the jumpering. I know about SW1-6 called "Synchronous
Mode Transfer Request" that must be set to OFF for asynchronous mode. But
what should I do with:
- SW1-1 (SCSI level) which is default ON for "SCSI-1/CCS Mode"; should it
be switched to OFF for "SCSI-2 Mode"
- CHN10 (SCSI Terminating Power) is default SHORT/SHORT which means that
power is supplied to the terminating resistor from the IDD and TERMPWER
pin. Should this be altered, when the disk will be an internal one,
with SCSI number 1
Then there was recently a long thread about using the "-r 5400" flag when
doing newfs: "newfs -n -v -r 5400 /dev/rsd1a" was recommended. Is this
with black hardware necessary or not?
If you netters could help me, I promise to summarize all my experiences with
this harddisk installation and my new MO drive.
Thanks, Willem
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From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is color poss in NS/FIP on Tseng ET4000 W32p chipset?
Date: 30 Oct 1994 17:14:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9410302311.AA26307@PCS.CNU.EDU>
I reinstalled NeXTSTEP the other day, and now have a Hercules
Dynamite Power 2mb VLB (read: 2mb) (I removed my Wingine) -- tell me,
is it poss. to get color on this board in NS?? If so, where is the
driver?? I seem to get either 8-bit or 2-bit grey (not sure which,
looks like 2-bit) in what looks like 1024x768 res. It's ok...but I
would like 12-bit color again. I *DO* have 2mb on the board. Anyone
point me to some drivers up to my needs, or is this "it"?
bp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Is the Seagate ST31200N, 1.2 Gb-int., a good drive for a NeXTslab?
Message-ID: <CyI6n4.GE3@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 20:37:52 GMT
Anyone using this drive on a NeXT? IS IT QUIET? And fast? [How does it compare
to the standard internal Quantum 105 in terms of noise?
Your information/comments will be very appreciated.
bye,
Ze Tomas
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is the Seagate ST31200N, 1.2 Gb-int., a good drive for a NeXTslab?
Date: 30 Oct 1994 22:57:20 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <391pv0$kl5@panix3.panix.com>
References: <CyI6n4.GE3@acsu.buffalo.edu>
It works. It's fast. It's quiet.
In <CyI6n4.GE3@acsu.buffalo.edu> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes:
>Anyone using this drive on a NeXT? IS IT QUIET? And fast? [How does it compare
>to the standard internal Quantum 105 in terms of noise?
>Your information/comments will be very appreciated.
>bye,
>Ze Tomas
From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: more 68040 acceleration by osc.
Date: 31 Oct 1994 03:34:03 GMT
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
Message-ID: <391ojb$6n5@earth.usa.net>
Well, I dug up the MacWorld, (march1994), that deals with CPU Boosting
Motorola 680x0 CPU's. It seems fairly safe as long as you get a large
heat sink or tiny fan on the CPU itself.
I am not going to repost the entire article, but, I will mention that
they accelerated a Quadra 800, (usually a 33mhz machine) to 40mhz.
No problems occured with the 800, but some minor networking difficulties
were encountered with the centris 610.
Anybody willing to try it with their turbo station? I may call KS
Technologies to find out more data. THey are the maker/distributor of
the oscillator chip upgrades...
BUT, as the saying goes, "a flame that burns twice as bright burns half
as long"
ericd
From: kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: printers of black hrdware
Date: 31 Oct 1994 03:03:07 GMT
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Oct31120307@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <390icu$o8m@news.delphi.com>
In-reply-to: kochab@news.delphi.com's message of 30 Oct 1994 16:42:06 -0000
I think there is perhaps some interest in this topic, so I will
post. (will send you email also)
If you are cheap, like me, there are free options for black with
HPDJ. (for ns/i and ns/pa-risc, i think you need to pay
licencing fees to adobe, so you should check.)
In conclusion, I think they work great in terms of output, but
they tend to be slow. So I would recommend it for home use, not
for heavy duty use.
Btw, I should probably add that a few months ago, people were
selling NeXT LP for $300 or so NEW, so if you are in a market
for a printer for NS/m, you should check it out.
all solutions i list exist on the archvies.
free options.
-------------
f1. djf: works on HPDJ. mono. serial port on black, ns/i, para
port on ns/i and ns/pa-risc. Different versions exist for 2.x
and 3.x, so choose the relevant one. There also used to be a
color one called djf_for_color or something like that, which
I havent seen for a while.
f2. ghostHPDJ (or some such thing.) : works on hpdj. haven't
checked this one out. I think it supports color.
commercial solutions:
--------------------
c1. Dots. supports HPDJ, Canon InkJet series. Both mono AND
color. $100/mono, $200 color, I think.
c2. JetPilot. Supports HPDJ. Both mono and color. About the same
price as Dots.
comments:
----------
1. I am using djf and am happy about it. It installs
trivially. However, to get it to print perfectly right, you need
some work. (like correct margins, etc, if you are picky.) Fine
for home use, since I always print out final copies on a laser
at work.
I use it for TeX and other output from Apps. (Mesa, AppsoftDraw
(gasp!) , etc) The resolution is fine. Can't distinguish it from
a laser unless you put them up side by side. (at least not me.)
2. InkJet seems to be slow. With NSTC, NS3.2, serial with full
300dpi quality TeX dvi file, it's about 1page/min. I don't know
which is the bottle neck, but there are a couple: a. serial port
speed b. bitmapping on the cpu, c. slow speed of inkjet compared
to laser.
3. For commercial options, you can check out the demo versions
on the archives for free, so take it on a test drive before you
buy it.
4. Things like Dots support various printers, so you might be
able to get a pretty low total price that is comparable to
using a free driver. For instance, when I was shopping around,
about a year ago, Canon printers were cheaper than HP by about
$50--$100 street. I don't know which printers are cheap now, but
you might want to look around.
Hope this helps. ___Kenichiro Aoki.
>>>>> On 30 Oct 1994 16:42:06 -0000, kochab@news.delphi.com (KOCHAB@DELPHI.COM) said:
Kochab> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.delphi.com
Kochab> I would like to use an HP 500 series inkjet with my black hardware.
Kochab> Is there any place to get the software required to drive such a printer?
Kochab> What other printers can I use that wont cost me 800$?
Kochab> Any advice would be great. Thanks...
Kochab> Please respond to kochab@delphi.com
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
... posting from kyoto....
From: kmorton@panix.com (Ken Morton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM installation requirements for ns-intel
Date: 31 Oct 1994 01:50:12 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com>
I have a Gateway 200 p5-60 w/a Mitsumi CD-ROM (with its own ISA
controller). Can I install NS using this drive?
Thanks
Ken
--
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kmorton@panix.com recognition...To have someone out
there express a thought I wasn't
Oh no, not again! sure anyone else had." - ???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Message-ID: <bchin.783553439@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <bchin.783492082@news.andi.org> <390cqh$t5u@cerberus.ibmoto.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:43:59 GMT
tim@apple.com (Tim Olson) writes:
>There is no such thing as a "clock-doubled" 68040, LC or not. Apple is
>advertising some '040-based machines as "dual clocked", but they are no
>different from stock '040 processors.
Ahh... thanks for clearing that up.
Then, aren't the ads/brochures misleading?
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raphael@research.canon.oz.au (Andrew Raphael)
Subject: Re: NSFIP Crash
Message-ID: <CyJ3zt.FMK@research.canon.oz.au>
Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
References: <38rc1r$m12@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 08:38:17 GMT
Rakesh Malik writes:
>It can't find the superblock, or the file Config.System or Config.Default.
>Any advice?
Eject the floppy disk?
--
Andrew Raphael <raphael@research.canon.oz.au>
"She's probably not what she seems, though she tries"
From: peter@netz.hrz.uni-siegen.de (Peter Merz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Very Slow network after network card exchange
Date: 31 Oct 1994 13:18:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, University of Siegen, Germany
Message-ID: <392qr8$o8m@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de>
I got a problem with my network. I'm using a NE-2000 card with the
public domain driver. Sometimes the NeXT-System hangs after a
network request.
So I decided to try another network card with
a driver from NeXT. First I tried a SMC-WD with the SMC_WD-Driver
from NeXT.
The result was a ftp transfer rate about 6 Kbyte/s.
Then I tried a 3COM Etherlink III with the new driver update.
The same results.
Then I switched back to NE2000. Good Performance but not stable.
Any hints, why the other cards fail to work?
Hardware:
ASUS PCI-SP3G Board.
NCR-SCSI with Talus driver.
miro 20SV PCI.
--
-- Peter Merz, pmerz@hrz.uni-siegen.de --
-- Computing Center at the University of Siegen, GERMANY --
-- Hochschulrechenzentrum der Universitaet Siegen --
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: You are going to *love* the #9 IMAGINE 128 card...
Date: 31 Oct 1994 13:46:35 GMT
Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany
Message-ID: <392sfr$1uu@balu.ixpoint.de>
References: <CyDv8n.qA@hot.com>
Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes
> Number Nine has a new 128-bit graphics card that will blow your mind.
>
> #9 IMAGINE 128
> >
> This PCI card has a 128-bit data path between the controller and VRAM.
> It's the fastest card on the market: At SVGA resolution, it is 490%
> faster than 64-bit graphics cards and 861% faster than 32-bit cards.
>
Yes, possible with software which uses the capabilities of the 128
Bit-Chip ! But remember: The graphics processor is not very hard used by
NEXTSTEP (the CPU writes to the frame-buffer directly).
The interesting part is true color at high resolution.
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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+ Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany +
+ Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 +
+ Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail and MIME) +
From: kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle Hearfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: DEC Alpha AXP and NS???
Date: 31 Oct 1994 14:33:19 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <392v7f$d9j@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
Does anyone know if NeXTStep will run on a DEC Alpha AXP, I know
that the alpha uses a RISC processor. Does this change things?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Kyle.
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Under the influence of Television-the drug of the Nation,
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation."
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From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question
Date: 31 Oct 1994 15:08:52 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu>
Hello,
In the never-ending cat and mouse game that is NS/FIP installation
I am stumped with the following problem. Perhaps someone here can suggest
an answer.
I am trying to Install NS/FIP on a Dell OmniPlex 90Mhz pentium. The
source of my problem lies (I believe) somewhere in the SCSI Card/Drive area.
The machine has a DEC dsp3210 2Gb SCSI hard drive and a Bus Logics
BT 474C EISA SCSI controller. The SCSI controller is set to IRQ 11, I/O Port
address 0x334. BIOS address 16k at 0xDC000. The hard drive is at SCSI ID 0 and
the external CD-ROM (NeXT Sony CD ROM) is at SCSI ID 1.
The machine's power-on-self tests identify both the hard drive and
CD-ROM just fine. So far so good. It then begins to boot from the floppy
and gets to the prompt that allows me to install additional drivers at which
point I insert the diskette with the Bus Logics driver I ftp'ed from NeXT.
This driver loads fine and the boot continues. When the OS begins scanning
for drives it identifies the DEC dsp 3210 at sd0 but then goes on to say
this: "sd0: No Valid Disk Label". Prior to this I had just re-formatted the
driver with Bus Logics low-level formatter. After the message about no valid
disk label, the OS goes on to correctly identify the size of the disk,
2049mb.
Well the OS begins to load from the CD-ROM registering sd1 as the root
device and then, as it is about to show me the disks available for
installation, it stops and says "you don't have any disks that NeXTstep
can be installed on. You must have a disk with 512bytes/sector and at least
120mb of free disk space".
The bus logics utilities tell me the drive is formatted at
512 bytes/sector. I've checked several docs at NeXT's ftp site and I can't
find anything that will help. Does anyone have any idea why the installation
process doesn't see the disk? The message about it having no valid disk
label bothers me but I haven't done anything differently to this disk
than I've done in other installations. Although this is the first time I've
tried to put NS/FIP on a machine with a drive larger than 1Gig.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
From: schmatz@mix.caed.iao.fhg.de (Peter Schmatz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress PRO?
Date: 31 Oct 1994 15:54:42 GMT
Organization: FhG-IAO (Stuttgart-Germany)
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <393402$i5r@news.belwue.de>
References: <38r71g$bdi@uuneo.neosoft.com>
In article bdi@uuneo.neosoft.com, matthews@everest1.everestech.com (Michael C. Matthews) writes:
> Does anybody know whether this driver (or any other) will work with
> the EtherExpress PRO? Or should I take it back and buy another ethernet
> card?
Well, of course it doesnt work with the EtherExpress16 Driver :-(
In an hidden readme files supplied with the card (checkout SOFTSET2.EXE)
I found that the driver is under construction and will be available by
Oct. 94 (by now ?).
So I checked out at ftp.next.com, but nothing there.
If the driver is finished please post it here.
Peter.
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Fraunhofer-Institut fuer Arbeitswirtschaft und Organistion
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From: engelsma@burbot.it.gvsu.edu (Benjamin D. Engelsma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: GATEWAY Owners... NEED ADVICE
Date: 31 Oct 1994 16:18:52 GMT
Organization: Grand Vally State University
Message-ID: <3935dc$g9n@news.it.gvsu.edu>
Hello,
I thought that there was a Gateway mailing list setup specifically
for these kinds of questions. If that is so, could someone let
me in on it? Otherwise, here is my question:
I have a DX2-66 with 16 MB RAM. I want to go up to 32. Will this
present any problems? I thought I heard at one time that the upgrade
may cause certain performance problems. Could someone who has done
this comment on the performance increase they have had? ( i.e. is it
worth it, or would I be better off spending the money on a bigger
monitor for example... )
Thanx,
Ben
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From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help with SB16 under NSFIP 3.2 please!
Date: 31 Oct 1994 16:24:02 -0000
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3935n2$2gq@titian.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi I have just swapped my Pro Audio Spectrum 16 card for a Sound Blaster
16, because the PAS kept crashing NSFIP no matter what the settings were :(
I am now running NS with the Soundblaster driver I have downloaded from
ftp.next.com, but I cannot hear any sounds. The bootup sequence recognizes
and correctly identifies the card, but there just isn't any sound. Looking
at /usr/adm/messages reveals a lot of error messages regarding 16-bit DMA.
The card works fine under DOS with the same settings.
Please can anyone help? Mail me at eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Also, are there any NeXTSTEP drivers to utilize the DSP on the SB16 card?
Thanks in advance,
Eren Kotan
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From: hendryj@mcs.com
Subject: NeXT Cube & Syquest drives
Message-ID: <1994Oct31.165230.18290@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 16:52:30 GMT
How well do NeXT's work with Syquest removables? Are there any problems?
Do they work with the newer 105 & 270 MB models?
--
Jonathan Hendry Vanguard Software Corp. Jon_Hendry@vanguard.com
Any similarity between the views expressed herein and the views of Vanguard
Software, Swiss Bank Corp., or any individuals living, dead, or undead is
entirely coincidental.
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: jumpering Fujitsu M2694ESA for NextStation
Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:43:40 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <393acc$mtr@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1994Oct29.151311.20812@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
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schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
>I just got my new 1GB Fujitsu M2694ESA, but after reading the doc's I'm
>not 100% sure about the jumpering. I know about SW1-6 called "Synchronous
>Mode Transfer Request" that must be set to OFF for asynchronous mode. But
>what should I do with:
I have got the same drive installed as the internal (SCSI ID 1) in my
cube :
>- SW1-1 (SCSI level) which is default ON for "SCSI-1/CCS Mode"; should it
> be switched to OFF for "SCSI-2 Mode"
Set it to OFF (SCSI-2).
>- CHN10 (SCSI Terminating Power) is default SHORT/SHORT which means that
> power is supplied to the terminating resistor from the IDD and TERMPWER
> pin. Should this be altered, when the disk will be an internal one,
> with SCSI number 1
Set it to OPEN/SHORT (Power is not supplied to the terminating resistor from
the IDD. Power is supplied only from the TERMPWR pin.)
>Then there was recently a long thread about using the "-r 5400" flag when
>doing newfs: "newfs -n -v -r 5400 /dev/rsd1a" was recommended. Is this
>with black hardware necessary or not?
I just used BuildDisk.app, worked fine. You might want to consider to
reformat the drive to 1024 bytes/sector to get faster access and higher
capacity. You can do this using the sdformat utility, available on most
ftp servers. I didn't reformat my drive because I might want to use it
as a PC boot device at some stage.
Cheers, Ernst.
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From: tsai@ptolemy.ee.ucla.edu (Jerry Ming Ju Tsai)
Subject: Where can I fix NeXT color monitor in LA?
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <CyJrID.IJI@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:06:12 GMT
Organization: School of Engineering & Applied Science, UCLA.
Hello,
I have a 17" color monitor which became very aweful, but not dead,
recently. Can anybody suggest me where I can fix it? Thanks!
Jerry
tsai@ee.ucla.edu
1-310-825-8289
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Moving HP hard drive from black to white.
Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:45:57 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <393agl$7ol@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I have an HP97548 SN 661 MB hard drive that I have been using for 3-4 years now
without a hitch, connected to my NeXTDimension workstation. I have just
purchased a Pentium system from JCIS in CA. That system has a 1GB HD, and uses
a JC1160 "EAGLE" PCI SCSI Adapter. The cd-rom drive also is scsi. With just
those two drives, the boot drive with scsi id 0 is the HD and the CD drive has
scsi id 1. My HP is set to scsi id 2. When I remove the terminator jumper
from the adapter card (as per the card instructions - "when using both internal
and external scsi devices remove jumper E1") and connect the HP, (internal)
devices at id 0 and 1 are identified, but the system hangs without ever finding
the HP drive. The HP drive is terminated with an external scsi terminator.
Any ideas? Any explanations?
Randy Jackson
jackson+@osu.edu
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC Alpha AXP and NS???
Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:58:44 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <393b8k$heb@news.onramp.net>
References: <392v7f$d9j@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
In article <392v7f$d9j@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle
Hearfield) writes:
> Does anyone know if NeXTStep will run on a DEC Alpha AXP, I know
> that the alpha uses a RISC processor. Does this change things?
It won't run right now, but there have been rumors of an Alpha port for a
long time... That would certainly make it easy to sell DEC XLs, which are
Alpha upgradeable :-). I believe the current announced position is that
there will be an Alpha version of OpenStep, but no port of NEXTSTEP. Any
better information out there? Please?...
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
"Will configure NS machines for food..."
dkramer@onramp.net
(713) 531-7959
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From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser)
Subject: Re: NeXT Cube & Syquest drives
Message-ID: <1994Oct31.182917.24478@adobe.com>
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References: <1994Oct31.165230.18290@il.us.swissbank.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 18:29:17 GMT
hendryj@mcs.com writes
>
> How well do NeXT's work with Syquest removables? Are there any problems?
>
> Do they work with the newer 105 & 270 MB models?
I have a 105MB Syquest hooked up to a Station, a Cube, and a Mac. All
three work without any problems. I mount Mac formated 105's on my NeXT's
as well. Haven't tried the 270, but there shouldn't be any difference.
--
James Heiser <jheiser@adobe.com> Adobe Systems Incorporated
NeXT/MIME mail accepted 1585 Charleston Road
(415) 961-4400 P.O. Box 7900
http://www.adobe.com/ Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC Alpha AXP and NS???
Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:51:18 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <393aqm$g2r@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <392v7f$d9j@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
In article <392v7f$d9j@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle
Hearfield) writes:
> Does anyone know if NeXTStep will run on a DEC Alpha AXP, I know
> that the alpha uses a RISC processor. Does this change things?
> Thanks in advance for your help!
NextStep will not run on any DEC at the moment. I believe that
distributed objects might be selling for DEC (anybody know?). However,
NextStep only runs on NeXTs, Intel PCs and HPs. SUNs are next to get
NextStep. DEC is much further down the line.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question
Date: 31 Oct 1994 17:54:50 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <393b1a$g57@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu>
In article <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu> brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
writes:
> for drives it identifies the DEC dsp 3210 at sd0 but then goes on to say
> this: "sd0: No Valid Disk Label". Prior to this I had just re-formatted
the
> driver with Bus Logics low-level formatter. After the message about no
valid
> disk label, the OS goes on to correctly identify the size of the disk,
> 2049mb.
NextStep has trouble dealing with disks larger than 2 GB. You need to
manually partition your disk into two chunks, each of which is less than 2
GB. One of the NextAnswers explains how to do this.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: ta-sav2@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Booting with rootdev as another hard drive
Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:27:21 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <393cu9$99l@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Summary: How to do it?
Sorry to bug everyone about this again. I've got an Intel 486 with an
IDE drive, and an external SCSI disk, formatted 1024 byte blocks.
Both have NeXTStep installed on them. From the book prompt, I can
type:
hd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd0a
and the machine boots the kernel from the ide, and then loads everything
else from the SCSI disk, which is what I want. What do I change in what
file to get this to happen automatically?
Putting sd(0)mach_kernel into the Instance0.table of the IDE disk
doesn't work, because at that stage, the machine can't read the 1024
byte disk.
Any ideas?
Thanks, and by the way, with the New Talus driver, I got my Exabyte
8205 to work on the NCR card, although it's a little weird behaving,
it can read and write to it. Performance is about 15% better.
Sean
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sean Varah
Harvard Computer Music Studio
cello@mario.harvard.edu
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: I want to spend about $3000.
Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:10:13 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <393fel$iu8@news.onramp.net>
References: <thompsonCyEM0w.CLx@netcom.com>
In article <thompsonCyEM0w.CLx@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric
Thompson) writes:
> I'm buying a machine to run DOS/Windows, but it should also run
> NEXTSTEP. I have a max price of around $3000, NOT including monitor.
> I know I want a P/90 with 32mb ram and 1+ gig of disk. Beyond that,
> the other components are important -- I'd like it to have fast video
> and SCSI. Networking is currently unccessary.
>
> I've you've got a system something like this for approximately the
> price, I'd appreciate hearing about the SPECIFICS of what makes it up...
> e.g. brand/model/version of each component. Can you help?
>
You bet! This is not the place for a price war, but suffice it to say
that we can beat other prices on P90 + specific component systems by
several hundred bucks (and include shipping, and NS installation from your
license). Drop me an e-mail, or call me for more info, or to just chat
about config issues. I'm always happy to pick up new info, or to
distribute some. Thanks for the bandwidth!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
dkramer@onramp.net
(713) 531-7959
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM installation requirements for ns-intel
Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:31:15 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <393gm3$jcg@news.onramp.net>
References: <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com>
In article <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com> kmorton@panix.com (Ken Morton)
writes:
>
> I have a Gateway 200 p5-60 w/a Mitsumi CD-ROM (with its own ISA
> controller). Can I install NS using this drive?
Not if this is the same setup I saw for sale in CompUSA - NS doesn't play
with anything that isn't standard SCSI. Sorry. The cheapest thing to do
would be to borrow or buy a normal ISA SCSI card (Adaptec, DPT or the ones
that I _know_ work), and grab a CD-ROM from a friend just to do the
install. Then you could return all the goodies....
Hmmmm. On second thought, a friend with a similar setup on an
Acer is having trouble setting up both DOS/WIN and NS because the sound
card-based CD-ROM makes NS hang... You may be better off, if you're
determined, to sell the CD-ROM set and get a standard SCSI one. They're
pretty cheap these days. I'll quote you one, or any other component in
which you're interested, if you like.
Cheers!
Dan
Bifrost Enterprises
dkramer@onramp.net
(713) 531-7959
> Ken F. Morton "It's a pleasure to feel that shock
> kmorton@panix.com recognition...To have someone out
> there express a thought I wasn't
> Oh no, not again! sure anyone else had." - ???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: New print driver in NS3.3?
Message-ID: <1994Oct31.174459.12441@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:44:59 GMT
Does anyone know if there's a new print driver
in NEXTSTEP 3.3 for the NeXT Color Printer?
The Canon printer hardware isn't bad, but NeXT's
driver for it is pathetic, keeping the printer
operating at about 25% of its potential.
Anyone know of a third-party replacement for this
driver? Source code? Patches? Hacks?
Thanks!!
Mark
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question
Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:54:33 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <393i1p$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu>
References: <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu> <393b1a$g57@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Todd,
Thanks for the info on partitioning the disk by hand. I'll check
for a NeXTanswers doc on that subject. But...in the meantime I thought I'd
just go an try to do it right away so I booted the machine in single
user mode with "fd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd1a -s" which worked fine. Then I
used the disk command to label the disk and then I used NeXT's fdisk command
to create 2 partitions. The first partition was 1024Mb and was a NeXTstep
partition. The second partition was type 06 (DOS 16 bit FAT) and was about
1025Mb.
Then I restarted the installation process and when it got to the
point of showing me my available disks the same thing happened. It told me
that I don't have any available for installation.
--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
: In article <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu> brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
: writes:
: > for drives it identifies the DEC dsp 3210 at sd0 but then goes on to say
: > this: "sd0: No Valid Disk Label". Prior to this I had just re-formatted
: the
: > driver with Bus Logics low-level formatter. After the message about no
: valid
: > disk label, the OS goes on to correctly identify the size of the disk,
: > 2049mb.
: NextStep has trouble dealing with disks larger than 2 GB. You need to
: manually partition your disk into two chunks, each of which is less than 2
: GB. One of the NextAnswers explains how to do this.
: -- Todd Takken
: takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question
Date: 31 Oct 1994 20:02:27 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <393igk$jsc@news.onramp.net>
References: <393b1a$g57@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <393b1a$g57@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
>NextStep has trouble dealing with disks larger than 2 GB. You need to
>manually partition your disk into two chunks, each of which is less than
2
> GB. One of the NextAnswers explains how to do this.
>
> -- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
I believe it's document 1666, '>2 GB Install Bug'. I'll check to be sure
later when I'm getting better than 260 bps across on FTP.
Dan
Bifrost Enterprises
(713) 531-7959
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question
Date: 31 Oct 1994 20:19:32 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
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References: <393b1a$g57@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <393igk$jsc@news.onramp.net>
Thanks for the info. I already looked and it's document 1533. I got it,
read it, and started to try it. The first thing it has you do is run sdform
to low-level format the disk and the document shows example output for
a 2.7Gb seagate drive. The output of sdform shows the bytes/sector and
the total Mb on the disk. When I ran sdform it told me that I had
0 (zero) bytes/sector and 0 (zero again) megabytes. I went ahead and
started the sdform running but who knows what will happen. If it looks
like it did something reasonable I'll try the remaining steps.
Anyone have any other ideas while I'm exercising my disk? :-)
--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
Daniel L. Kramer (dkramer@onramp.net) wrote:
: In article <393b1a$g57@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd
: Takken) writes:
: >NextStep has trouble dealing with disks larger than 2 GB. You need to
: >manually partition your disk into two chunks, each of which is less than
: 2
: > GB. One of the NextAnswers explains how to do this.
: >
: > -- Todd Takken
: > takken@leland.stanford.edu
: I believe it's document 1666, '>2 GB Install Bug'. I'll check to be sure
: later when I'm getting better than 260 bps across on FTP.
: Dan
: Bifrost Enterprises
: (713) 531-7959
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From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps)
Subject: Re: Which Toner Cartridge for NeXT Printer? ("EP-S" not specific enough)
Message-ID: <1994Oct31.221227.4780@cs.sfu.ca>
Organization: Faculty of Applied Science, Simon Fraser University
References: <389a3k$2b4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <edewCyGu72.96o@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 22:12:27 GMT
In article <edewCyGu72.96o@netcom.com>, Eric Dew <edew@netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <389a3k$2b4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) writes:
>>I walked into the EE store at Stanford yesterday to purchase a
>>replacement EP-S type toner cartridge for my NeXT printer. The
>>NeXT user manual says to purchase an "EP-S" type cartridge (indicating
>>that it is a standard type made by HP). But none of the HP printers
>>sold in the store indicated that they were "EP-S"; instead, I saw the
>>following model numbers: 92274A, 92275A, 92285A, 92291A, and 92295A.
>> Does anyone know which of these HP toner cartridge models will fit
>>into the NeXT printer?
>> Thank you. (I checked the FAQs, but it wasn't specific either---will
>>only one HP model work in the LaserJet III?).
>>Ed
>
>Office Depot in Mountain View (off of El Monte and El Camino) sells EP-S
>toner cartridges from Canon (who is the maker of the NeXT printer). $86.++
>and tax. Go to their laser toner cartridge aisle. Look around for the EP-S
>I didn't buy it from there, but when my toner runs out, I'll probably
>buy it there.
in case you feel you must have the HP cartridge - it's the 92295A model that
fits the NeXTprinter....
--Peter
From: jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Date: 31 Oct 1994 23:20:35 GMT
Organization: Legent Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <393u43$6r5@booch.legent.com>
References: <38sdeb$8i@rosie.next.com>
Thanks for the update, Mike. When did this become the case? I remember being
told by Randy Nelson that DPS did its rendering on the 680x0, and that the i860
only move finished bitmaps around. This would have been in the summer of '92.
--
_____________________________________________________________
John C. Randolph (408) 730-3500
jcr@sv.legent.com
Legent Corporation
710 LakeWay Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
"Hey %s! You're a Nazi, and you can't spell!"
From: jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Date: 31 Oct 1994 23:30:17 GMT
Organization: Legent Corporation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <393um9$6vq@booch.legent.com>
References: <1994Oct28.231356.24906@adobe.com>
In article <1994Oct28.231356.24906@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
> In article <38rh0o$86d@booch.legent.com> jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
[munch]
> Well, the interpreter doesn't run on the ND, but the code that renders the
> graphics primitives generated by DPS does run on the ND.
[munch again]
> Joe Pasqua
> Adobe Systems Incorporated
Joe, thanks for the details. I stand corrected.
So, is it feasible for a third party to write a PS device to run on some of the
whiz-bang graphic accelerator boards available for Intel systems ? How
primitive are the graphics primitives ? (i.e. do they include the bezier, or is
it just, line, point, fill region, etc.?) Does this division between the device
and the interpreter still exist in NS/Intel ?
--
_____________________________________________________________
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jcr@sv.legent.com
Legent Corporation
710 LakeWay Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94086
"Hey %s! You're a Nazi, and you can't spell!"
From: fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problem: Nextstep w/ SCSI Conner
Date: 1 Nov 1994 00:17:55 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3941fj$f54@mordred.gatech.edu>
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could help me on this. I have a Nextstep
(the black pizza box) and I want to set it up with a Conner CP30540
scsi hard drive. I keep getting a "SC: didn't complete" when the
box tries to look for the hard drive during boot. The only way to
solve this so far is to put a SCSI terminator on the back end of the
box. I have tried terminating and not terminating the hard drive but
the same happens. (I was told be Conner tech support that jumper
E5 was the terminator, and E6 was the termination power...any verfication
on that?) Any idea what I'm doing wrong??? Is there something I
could jumper on the motherboard or set in the eprom so I don't have
to stick the terminator in the back? Thanks for any help.
-Frank
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Intel Help (for a unix on intel newbie)
Date: 1 Nov 1994 01:02:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <39443i$5ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Here are a few questions, if anyone could answer these for me,
I would be very grateful (please email, I don't have time to read
all of the newsgroups). Alternately if one could tell me the
location of a FAQ that answers these questions I would be grateful too.
I'm looking into getting a 486dx2 66 to run NeXT, BSD, and
(unless I can help it) windoze. I was wondering what I should look
for when purchasing a system/parts. (what's compatable, whats not)
I'm a student so my budget is not large (at all :). I'm just
looking now, waiting for my paychecks and trying to forget about
university bills.
Are there any mother boards that I should avoid? I assume VLB slots
are required for NS stuff.
I know that I would need a SCSI controller/drive. Would the scsi on
sound blaster work? (slow, but cheap) Or should I get a dedicated
card? What drives have problems with NS or BSD? Are segates ok,
how about quantum?
I'm not sure about the graphics card, what should I avoid and
what should I look for? I'm thinking of a 2 meg SVGA card, but was
not sure what brands NS and BSD supported.
Also, could someone tell me what the Academic pricing for NS 3.3 is?
If I'm over looking anything in my questions, please inform me. Thanks
allot. Sorry for all the questions.
thanks
-cft
btw- if anyone has a Black slab or cube for the right price (read cheap
I'm po'), I might be interested.
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From: bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ROM Monitor troubles
Date: 1 Nov 1994 03:20:48 GMT
Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service)
Message-ID: <394c6g$35h@earth.usa.net>
I get sent to the ROM monitor every time I boot up.
I set the Parameter boot drive to bsd, but when I power-on, it won't
work, I have to manually type bsd. The battery is ok. I have tried other
scsi ID numbers....I have tried typing bsd(0,0,0) among other ID's....
another weird thing.....every second time I power on , the rom monitor
decides that it needs to do a 5 minute scsi drive check. THis parameter
is set off.....WHAT"S GOING ON???
ericd
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitor for HP 712/80
Date: 1 Nov 1994 03:36:46 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <394d4e$ac@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3916ei$25b@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <3916ei$25b@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> you
wrote:
-> We have an HP 712/80 with NEXTSTEP installed, but no
-> monitor, on loan with no docs.
->
-> Are PC monitors compatible with this box?
->
-> What scan rate monitor is required - I tried a 15" MAG
-> multisync and it does not work.
If the system has the VRAM upgrade (a small card about 1x3"
in a slot on the main board), the resolution is 1280x1024.
You'll need a good display to be able to handle that high a
resolution. If there is no VRAM upgrade, the resolution is
1024x768.
We've tried an excellent 3rd party monitor, the Nanao
T560i, on our HP 712 systems and it works very well.
--
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Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
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From: jham@unlinfo.unl.edu (jonathan ham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC Alpha AXP and NS???
Date: 1 Nov 1994 02:33:13 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3949d9$250@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <392v7f$d9j@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <393aqm$g2r@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
: NextStep will not run on any DEC at the moment...
This is incorrect. NextStep does run on DEC machines. Just not the
Alpha-based workstations. (Remember that DEC still sells PCs.)
OpenStep for DEC's OSF/1 has been announced, which will run on the
Alpha machines, of course. Late '95 probably.
--
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[microSoftWindows free]; /* If only us could un-allocating all them
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From: edwintam@hk.super.net (Mr. Edwin KwanTo Tam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: Clock chipping the black, how ?
Date: 1 Nov 1994 04:24:58 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong SuperNet
Message-ID: <394fuq$j25@wanchai.hk.super.net>
Hi,
Anyone know how it could be done - clock chipping the black hardware, from
25MHz to 33+ ?
Thanks a lot !
---
Edwin Tam
AdTech Graphics Production Lab, Hong Kong
Tel: 590-9389 Fax: 516-5569
edwintam@fusion.hk.super.net
edwintam@adtech.attmail.com
*Either* addresses okay.
NeXTMail Welcome!
From: bbry@bu.edu (Bryony Bechtold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP LatserJets for NS
Date: 1 Nov 1994 07:11:19 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Message-ID: <394pmn$98p@news.bu.edu>
I would like to purchase a Laser printer for my Intel machine running NS,
and am more or less looking at HP since everyone I've ever spoken with who
has had one has had nothing but praise for them. aIf I want to get at least
600dpi output and a reasonably fast machine that is primarily for home
and personal use, which models should I be looking at? I would like the
ones that support postscript.
thanks
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Date: 1 Nov 1994 02:50:18 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <394ada$1ac@rosie.next.com>
References: <393u43$6r5@booch.legent.com>
In article <393u43$6r5@booch.legent.com> jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
writes:
> Thanks for the update, Mike. When did this become the case? I remember
being
> told by Randy Nelson that DPS did its rendering on the 680x0, and that
the i860
> only move finished bitmaps around. This would have been in the summer
of '92.
The original software spec called for marking, imaging, and compositing
operations to be performed by the NeXTdimension. This was all implemented
in the first shipped version of the NeXTdimension product, with the
Release 2.1 ND software and board.
======
I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal...
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From: perry@ccnet.com (Michael Perry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New print driver in NS3.3?
Date: 1 Nov 1994 00:16:48 -0800
Organization: CCnet Communications (510-988-7140 guest)
Message-ID: <perry.783677622@ccnet>
References: <1994Oct31.174459.12441@Radical.Com>
The last time I checked, the Next Color Printer
was virtually the only one NOT supported by DOTS,
a fine third-party printer driver. They were unable
to get help from Next or Canon; I had the same
experience. It is a shame.
I would also like to know if the situation has improved.
Michael Perry
Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell) writes:
>Does anyone know if there's a new print driver
>in NEXTSTEP 3.3 for the NeXT Color Printer?
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM installation requirements for ns-intel
Date: 1 Nov 1994 10:55:38 GMT
Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3956ra$i1q@diablo.ppp.de>
References: <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com>
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In article <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com> kmorton@panix.com (Ken Morton) writes:
>
> I have a Gateway 200 p5-60 w/a Mitsumi CD-ROM (with its own ISA
> controller). Can I install NS using this drive?
>
No! You need a SCSI-Drive.
Atze
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Date: 1 Nov 1994 11:26:09 GMT
Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3958kh$jf7@diablo.ppp.de>
References: <bchin.783553439@news.andi.org>
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In article <bchin.783553439@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
writes:
> tim@apple.com (Tim Olson) writes:
> >There is no such thing as a "clock-doubled" 68040, LC or not. Apple is
> >advertising some '040-based machines as "dual clocked", but they are no
> >different from stock '040 processors.
> Then, aren't the ads/brochures misleading?
As far as I remember '040 processors are allways "clock-doubled" internaly. You
cannot buy an 68040/2 (as i486DX2) because there was never a 68040/1 version.
Atze
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Date: 1 Nov 1994 11:26:39 GMT
Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3958lf$jgv@diablo.ppp.de>
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In article <bchin.783553439@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
writes:
> tim@apple.com (Tim Olson) writes:
> >There is no such thing as a "clock-doubled" 68040, LC or not. Apple is
> >advertising some '040-based machines as "dual clocked", but they are no
> >different from stock '040 processors.
> Then, aren't the ads/brochures misleading?
As far as I remember '040 processors are allways "clock-doubled" internaly. You
cannot buy an 68040/2 (as i486DX2) because there was never a 68040/1 version.
Atze
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: more 68040 acceleration by osc.
Date: 1 Nov 1994 11:29:13 GMT
Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany
Message-ID: <3958q9$jnd@diablo.ppp.de>
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In article <391ojb$6n5@earth.usa.net> bound@cscns.com (Eric Davis) writes:
> I am not going to repost the entire article, but, I will mention that
> they accelerated a Quadra 800, (usually a 33mhz machine) to 40mhz.
I read some articles in German mags as well. But as I remember the Apple
machines where already built to support 40MHz.
Atze
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question (DSP3210S)
Date: 1 Nov 1994 11:18:13 GMT
Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany
Message-ID: <39585m$j0c@diablo.ppp.de>
References: <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu>
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In article <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu> brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
writes:
[...]
> this: "sd0: No Valid Disk Label". Prior to this I had just re-formatted the
If you didn't soft-format the Disk under NS (disk -i) or DOS (format c:) it can
not have a label. So this is not a problem.
> driver with Bus Logics low-level formatter. After the message about no valid
> disk label, the OS goes on to correctly identify the size of the disk,
> 2049mb.
[...]
> installation, it stops and says "you don't have any disks that NeXTstep can
> be installed on. You must have a disk with 512bytes/sector and at least 120mb
> of free disk space".
>
NS <= 3.2 can not handle Disks with more than 2GB. Wait for 3.3. The prerelease
runs the IBM after you twiddle some of the sense-mode-bits. I couldn't make my
DEC work, because DEC will not give me the sense-mode config. Reason: the DEC
DSP3210S X441 is not manufactured by DEC, it's from DSP i think, hence the
name. Sorry for you, me and all other people having bought this nice-price
piece of an HD. I installed an old 200MB HD to boot from. Yuck!
This leads to the question why someone should buy a DEC thing if it just is not
manufactured by DEC. And why they will NOT give you ANY information about it.
Exept for some little booklet to identify the SCSI switches. :-(
Atze
PS. If anybody has the sense-mode config for the DSP3210S, please mail it to
me. Thank you.
From: "mmalcolm Crawford" <malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: You are going to *love* the #9 IMAGINE 128 card...
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 14:17:31 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <941101141731.2418AACUa.malc@jeeves>
References: <CyDv8n.qA@hot.com>
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> 8MB VRAM:
> 24-bit (32-bit w/alpha) color at 1600x1200 @ 72Hz.
> $???? retail / $???? list
>
Wow!
Would anybody care to speculate, however, on what effect running at this
resolution/depth will have on system requirements?
I presume that many Windows are still 2-bit (e.g. in Edit), and generally not
promoted; on the other hand anybody who wants 32-bit colour at that sort of
size is presumably likely to be wanting to use it, so there are going to be a
lot of 32-bit deep Window buffers... I guess for such a system 64MB RAM might
be considered a minimum...?
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: d93-mnt@jota.sm.luth.se (Mikael.Nykvist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: EIDE or SCSI CD-ROM ?
Date: 1 Nov 1994 16:50:36 GMT
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Message-ID: <395rks$jfk@fizban.solace.mh.se>
Hi Netters!
I'm about to buy a CD-Rom and have found that there are two drives that
are most interesting for me.. They are:
Sony ? , ? kb, 220ms, 360kb/s, SCSI-2
Mitsumi FX300, ? kb, 250ms, 450kb/s, Enhanced IDE
The two questions I have: 1. Is 2x enough?
2. Does/will NextStep/Intel support
EIDE CD-ROMs?
I will mostly install programs from the CD-ROM, but I will sometimes play some
games under dos, so that's why I ask the first question :)
Please followup on this message because I think that many people is interested
in the new,fast and cheap EIDE CD-ROMs.. Or if you mail me I will post a
summary.
Thanx!
/Mikael Nykvist, viper@ludd.luth.se
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: GATEWAY Owners... NEED ADVICE
Date: 1 Nov 1994 17:12:39 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <395su7$7ro@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3935dc$g9n@news.it.gvsu.edu>
In article <3935dc$g9n@news.it.gvsu.edu>,
Benjamin D. Engelsma <engelsma@burbot.it.gvsu.edu> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I thought that there was a Gateway mailing list setup specifically
>for these kinds of questions. If that is so, could someone let
>me in on it? Otherwise, here is my question:
>
>I have a DX2-66 with 16 MB RAM. I want to go up to 32. Will this
>present any problems? I thought I heard at one time that the upgrade
>may cause certain performance problems. Could someone who has done
>this comment on the performance increase they have had? ( i.e. is it
>worth it, or would I be better off spending the money on a bigger
>monitor for example... )
>
Try alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 for general questions. Nextstep
on GW related questions are welcome here.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Date: 1 Nov 1994 17:31:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <395u1l$f0s@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3958lf$jgv@diablo.ppp.de>
In article <3958lf$jgv@diablo.ppp.de> Atze (Alexander Spohr) writes:
> In article <bchin.783553439@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin)
> writes:
> > tim@apple.com (Tim Olson) writes:
> > >There is no such thing as a "clock-doubled" 68040, LC or not. Apple
is
> > >advertising some '040-based machines as "dual clocked", but they are
no
> > >different from stock '040 processors.
> > Then, aren't the ads/brochures misleading?
>
> As far as I remember '040 processors are allways "clock-doubled"
internaly. You
> cannot buy an 68040/2 (as i486DX2) because there was never a 68040/1
version.
>
How does all of this relate to Sam Goldberger's 50 MHz "clock-doubled"
68040 upgrade?
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question (DSP3210S)
Date: 1 Nov 1994 17:46:50 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <395uua$ihv@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <39585m$j0c@diablo.ppp.de>
> I installed an old 200MB HD to boot from. Yuck!
This is not a bad idea. Booting from a lousy drive allows you to format
your large hard disk with 1024byte/sector. On my Seagate ST43400N (the
2.7GB drive), this both increased the speed and size (to the tune of
200MB!).
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM installation requirements for ns-intel
Date: 1 Nov 1994 18:05:39 GMT
Organization: Nynex Science & Technology, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39601j$vd@news.nynexst.com>
References: <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com> <3956ra$i1q@diablo.ppp.de>
In article <3956ra$i1q@diablo.ppp.de>, Atze (Alexander Spohr) writes:
|> In article <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com> kmorton@panix.com (Ken Morton) writes:
|> >
|> > I have a Gateway 200 p5-60 w/a Mitsumi CD-ROM (with its own ISA
|> > controller). Can I install NS using this drive?
|> >
|>
|> No! You need a SCSI-Drive.
|>
|> Atze
Does NS support my NCR 53C810 SCSI card? No, I am not talking about
something I have to pay extra.
H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Does the NextDimension Accelerate Renderman?
Message-ID: <1994Nov1.183610.6628@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:36:10 GMT
In article <393um9$6vq@booch.legent.com> jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
writes:
>In article <1994Oct28.231356.24906@adobe.com> pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com writes:
>> In article <38rh0o$86d@booch.legent.com> jcr@sv.legent.com(John Randolph)
>[munch]
>
>> Well, the interpreter doesn't run on the ND, but the code that renders the
>> graphics primitives generated by DPS does run on the ND.
>[munch again]
>
>> Joe Pasqua
>> Adobe Systems Incorporated
>
>Joe, thanks for the details. I stand corrected.
>
>So, is it feasible for a third party to write a PS device to run on some of
>the whiz-bang graphic accelerator boards available for Intel systems ?
The current public interfaces do not allow for third parties to write device
code. NeXT has put an architecture in place that would allow for this sort
of extensibility, but it is not exported. However, remember that the vast
majority of the drawing that is performed in the NS environment occurs in
offscreen memory (buffered windows). Most (all?) of the whiz-bang graphic
accelerator boards for PC's
do not permit drawing to arbitrary memory - just the framebuffer. Furthermore,
not many of these boards allow for operations with subpixel positions. Most
operations on most of these boards take place with integer pixel coordinates.
Some boards have operations (like bres. lines) that allow the initial error
terms to be set, but even these often have limited accuracy in the arithmetic.
>How primitive are the graphics primitives ? (i.e. do they include the bezier,
>or is it just, line, point, fill region, etc.?)
Well, the device spec is not public, but I can say that the primitives are
very low level. The most obvious room for acceleration are for large area
fills and blts. Unfortunately, as I stated above, most of the cards won't
act on system memory. That leaves blitting from screen to screen. This sort
of acceleration could be taken advantage of.
>Does this division between the device and the interpreter still exist in
>NS/Intel ?
Yes, it exists in all versions.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
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From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Experience with INTEL boxes (premiere 90 ?)
Message-ID: <CyLpxB.Jwn@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:27:10 GMT
Hello,
Has anyone had any experience running NEXTSTEP on an Intel Premiere PCI
(pentium 90) ? How would it compare to a DEC or NEC top of the line ?
Moreover, now that Comdex is near, what is the probability that Intel or
any other box maker comes out with a 120mhz version ?
Many thanks,
Alexander Lamb
MIS Manager
Expert Quantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NXBench for ATI mach64 ?
Date: 1 Nov 1994 19:08:11 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3963mr$4j7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Hi,
now that there's a free mach64 driver available
(ftp://ftp.seanet.com:pub/next/drivers/ATIGraphicsProTurbo.pkg.compressed),
I would be very interested in hearing NXBench numbers for the ATI
Graphics Ultra Turbo PCI! Is it comparable with the S3 cards ? Are the
critical modes really working without noise ?
Gregor
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From: wgi@pacs.sunbelt.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Printer: 'fixed' but unresponsive
Date: 1 Nov 94 17:55:38 EST
Organization: SunBelt.Net
Message-ID: <1994Nov1.175538@pacs.sunbelt.net>
Recently I followed the procedure posted in this group to replace the
final paper-feed sprocket that ejects paper from a NeXT printer (when this
sprocket is munged, the paper hangs just before it falls into the take-up
tray, and the printer complains about a paper jam).
After an apparently successful installation, (i.e. no broken or lost parts)
I now have a peculiarly unresponsive printer. At boot-up, the printer does
its normal momentary power-up, and no error messages are displayed. If the
paper tray is out or empty, or if the printer top is open, an appropriate
error message is displayed. But when a test page or other print job is sent
to the device, there is an ominous silence, and no output. The host will
periodically try to send the job again (as evidenced by the whirring sound
normal to the printer prepraring for output), but nothing comes out.
So, the 'fix' is now worse than the original problem! Any suggestions on
how to diagnose and fix this problem would be greatly appreciated. What's
going on here?
Thanks.
Dick Wilson
Graphic Systems Programmer
Washburn Graphics, Inc.
Charlotte, NC 28204-2807
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag)
Subject: NeXT Laser Printer Woes
Message-ID: <CyLztF.7J0@news.cis.umn.edu>
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Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 21:58:04 GMT
Hello,
I just received a new NeXT Laser Printer. I set it up,
connected it to my mono 'station running NS3.0 and started up the
computer.
When I print anything, including the test page from PrintManager,
I just get a mess of black on the printed page, no discernible
text or graphics. Just Garbage, no characters. I am not getting
any error messages, thus I assume it's the printer.
Does anyone have any experience with this sort of phenomenon?
The printer was manufactured in 1992, my 'station is of a similar vintage.
Thanks!
Sharad Shanbhag
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Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201
Department of Neurosurgery sharad@neuro-sun.neuro.umn.edu
shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI boot disks
Date: 1 Nov 1994 23:17:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <396iaa$lfl@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I'm new to NS, so sorry if I ask a stupid question, but,
I know you need a scsi cdrom/controller to install NS but do you
need a scsi disk to boot off of?
If you can't boot off of an eide or ide drive, can you still accesss
it while in NS? basically have a ~200 meg scsi drive to boot from
and use a ide or eide for everthing else?
thanks
-cft
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI boot disks
Date: 1 Nov 1994 23:33:15 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <396j7r$jpn@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <396iaa$lfl@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <396iaa$lfl@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
Christopher Flash Tarnas <cft@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>
>I'm new to NS, so sorry if I ask a stupid question, but,
>I know you need a scsi cdrom/controller to install NS but do you
>need a scsi disk to boot off of?
>If you can't boot off of an eide or ide drive, can you still accesss
>it while in NS? basically have a ~200 meg scsi drive to boot from
>and use a ide or eide for everthing else?
>
You can boot and run NS off of an IDE drive. You cannot use a EIDE
drive presently, unless you fiddle with the bios and shrink the disk
down to IDE size.
If you do happen to run off of a scsi drive, you can still access the
IDE drive (and NS files) plus the first MSDOS partition on the IDE drive.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: larsen@math.upenn.edu (Michael Larsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: shooting myself in the foot
Date: 2 Nov 1994 00:49:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <396nmj$68m@netnews.upenn.edu>
Keywords: SCSI, CD-ROM, Floppy
This afternoon, I disconnected my SCSI chain (consisting of an external HD,
a CD-ROM drive, and a SuperFloppy drive, in that order.) The computer was
off at the time I did this, but unfortunately, the external HD was on and
the floppy drive and/or CD-ROM may have been on as well. When I tried
to connect the CD-ROM and floppy drives to a second computer (non-NeXT),
there was no indication that I had done so. Now that I've reconnected
them to my NeXT, I get SCSI errors from both devices during the boot
sequence. The two error codes are different, by the way. Incidentally,
the external HD is perfectly happy.
I tried removing the CD-ROM from the chain, and the SuperFloppy still gives
SCSI errors. I can't try the CD-ROM alone yet because it's unterminated
and I don't have an external terminator (yet). Should I assume that
I've killed at least one and possibly two SCSI devices in a moment of
carelessness? Or is there something more intelligent I can do? For
example, is there some way I can interpret the error codes and sd_state
information?
I don't normally read this newsgroup, but I will for the next few days.
My e-mail address is larsen@math.upenn.edu. Any and all help will be
appreciated.
-Michael Larsen
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Anyone using 2 monitors under NS/I?
Date: 1 Nov 1994 20:32:29 -0500
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <396q7d$a8j@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
Does anyone have a NEXTSTEP/Intel setup with two monitors (and
video adaptors)? If so, what is your setup, and how does it perform?
I have a Dell P-90 with a #9GXE64Pro PCI (very fast), and was thinking
of adding another #9GXE64Pro. However, I'm not sure how to configure
the second adaptor (which one is the primary one)?
Thanks! Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: ez033219@dino.ucdavis.edu (James Antoniou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: BusLogic 946C PCI and NS/FIP?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 02:59:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <396vb4$sp6@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Is there a way to get the BusLogic 946C PCI SCSI host adapter to work
with NS/FIP in the Adaptec 1542 compatibility mode? So far, I have had
no luck. Any settings for the board that I may want to tweak or I am
just out of luck for the moment?
Thanks for any help - Jim Antoniou
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From: William -Bill Scollard <guzzibill@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: memory upgrade on black hardware
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 94 23:25:18 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <Ry32Tu+.guzzibill@delphi.com>
References: <3813s2$s9g@news.nd.edu>
Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay <patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu> writes:
>
>Some of them claim that the SIMMS have to be installed
>in pairs, so in order to get 16 megs all I have to do
>is add 2 4 meggers @$140/each. Other sales droids told
>me that the SIMMS have to be installed in quads, so if
>I want 16 megs I have to install FOUR 4 meggers at twice
>the price and throw the current SIMMS away.
>
I believe Droid #1 was correct about the PAIRS, and Droid #2 was
mistaken about the quads. I currently have 16 meg as
8-8
X-X
and would really like to elevate to
8-8
16-16
Have been assured this is possible. (ref Blake Stone @DKW.COM)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone using 2 monitors under NS/I?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 06:01:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <397a03$esu@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <396q7d$a8j@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
In article <396q7d$a8j@jujube.cs.umd.edu> rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>Does anyone have a NEXTSTEP/Intel setup with two monitors (and
>video adaptors)? If so, what is your setup, and how does it perform?
>
>I have a Dell P-90 with a #9GXE64Pro PCI (very fast), and was thinking
>of adding another #9GXE64Pro. However, I'm not sure how to configure
>the second adaptor (which one is the primary one)?
I believe most PC video cards are not designed to be used in
multiples. While VRAM mapping into the host address space can be
reprogrammed, VGA BIOS is almost always mapped area starting at
0xC0000 or so and can't be changed. Also, several I/O addresses
also are fixed. Unless these two things can be moved to non-conflicting
ranges on the board, you can't do it.
I am looking for the kind of boards that will allow this, and am
even willing to modify some address lines if I have to. Regardless,
it seems that you would need the source for the driver to do this
sort of thing.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashpal Singh)
Subject: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Plato ?
Message-ID: <CyME6M.4Lw@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (Usenet News Admin)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 03:11:10 GMT
Has anyone successfully installed an Adaptec 2940 with the ATI
Graphics Pro Turbo on an Intel Plato motherboard ? I am assuming
one would have to get the SCSI and Video drivers from talus. I can't
even get the machine to correctly come up under DOS. It just locks
up during boot-up. Bios versions follow:
Motherboard: AMI 1.00.10.AX1
Adaptec: V1.11
I am using an HP SCSI Drive (HP D1686A).
Any insight appreciated.
From: kallinte@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Nikolaos Kallinteris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Quadruple-spin-CDROM with NeXT?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 08:28:46 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <397iju$nck@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Hi !
Has anyone hooked up a quadruple spin CD-ROM (SCSI, of course)
to their NeXT-station ???
- Toshiba 3501 ?
- NEC 4X
thanks for any info - will post summary !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ingo@ipge.toppoint.de (Ingo Prochaska)
Subject: Re: adaptec 2842 problems
Message-ID: <1994Nov2.064125.1671@ipge.toppoint.de>
Organization: Private Site, Kiel, Germany
References: <38odjd$r35@news.kth.se>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 06:41:25 GMT
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Tom Bryant (tombm@cyklop.nada.kth.se) wrote:
> Has anybody got the beta Adaptec 2842 VL driver to work ?
> The problem is that the driver refuses to see the card..
I'm running the Adaptec 2842 VL successful. But I had to edit
the Instance0.table by hand, otherwise the Driver is always
looking for the EISA-Board.
Ingo
--
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From: lk@SysCon.uu.se(Erlendur Karlsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Premiere II seems to work, what about the ASUS MB's?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 07:49:45 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <397gap$t0r@columba.udac.uu.se>
Keywords: Pentium 90, ASUS, motherboards
There seems to be an agreement that the Premiere II, Pentium 90
motherboards work for NS. What about the ASUS motherboards like the
ASUS PCI-P5NP4/90/100 or the ASUS dual pentium PCI/EISA-P5NP4/90/100.
Does anybody have any NS-experience with these boards?
-- Erlendur Karlsson
...........................................................
Erlendur Karlsson
Systems and Control Group
Uppsala University tel: +46-18-183189
Box 27 fax: +46-18-503611
S-751 03, Uppsala email: lk@SysCon.uu.se (NeXT mail)
From: root@osd.glas.apc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 28 Oct 94 20:46 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Video card for NSFIP, PCI bus
Message-ID: <1994Oct28.174650.1529@osd.glas.a>
References: <38ogof$rqt@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org>
In article <38ogof$rqt@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>
vlad@custer.me.jhu.edu writes:
> I need to get a video card for a Pentium 60 (Zenon) to
run NeXTstep,
> and I am pretty much down to deciding between the #9GXEPro
PCI w/ 4MB and
> the ATI Pro Turbo PCI w/ 4MB. I was wondering if anyone
could tell me what
> sort of experiences they have had with either, so that I
could choose the
> more trouble free card. Also, would I need to get a driver
for the #9? I
> know Talus has a Mach 64, driver, and I have heard mixed
reviews about it.
>
> Thanks, in advance.
>
> -Rakesh
>
> (I'm new to NS, but I don't mind NeXTmail)
Hi,
I am glad to let you know: you can, now, download our new
driver for ATI mach 64 PCI/VLB from the
ftp.seanet.com/pub/Submissions/next/drivers
Enjoy!
Serge
Serguei Bakhteiarov
Object Software Development (SEANET)
Moscow-Seattle
serge@seanet.com or serge@osd.glas.apc.org
http://www.seanet.com
From: root@osd.glas.apc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 31 Oct 94 17:35 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Monitor for HP 712/80
Message-ID: <1994Oct31.143558.1199@osd.glas.a>
References: <3916ei$25b@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org>
In article <3916ei$25b@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
errolg@ix.netcom.com writes:
> We have an HP 712/80 with NEXTSTEP installed, but no monitor,
on loan with
> no docs.
>
> Are PC monitors compatible with this box?
>
> What scan rate monitor is required - I tried a 15" MAG
multisync and it does
> not work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Please send email and respond to the above newsgroups. (I
checked the FAQ - no
> info there).
>
> Errol Ginsberg
> Email: errol@ridgeback.com
You can find and even purchase via WWW the monitor at:
http://www.seanet.com (in WorldWideMall)
Seguei Bakhteiarov
Object Software Devolepment (SEANET)
From: nevis@cinne415.rhn.orst.edu (Bryon Nevis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: XA-mode setting program for Toshiba 3401?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 00:36:03 -0800
Organization: An Oregon State University Dorm Room
Sender: nevisb@ucs.orst.edu
Message-ID: <397j1j$ob@cinne415.rhn.orst.edu>
I have been looking for the program to program to set my
Toshiba 3401 to XA-mode so that CDPlayer.app will work correctly.
After numerous archie searches I have been unable to find it.
Can anyone give me a pointer?
--
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From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Date: 2 Nov 1994 09:11:02 GMT
Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net)
Message-ID: <397l36$r6b@core.symnet.net>
Hello,
About how much faster is an AMD 80, Sparc?, Pentium-60, or a Pentium-90
than a 486DX-66?
Which of these could readily outperform or equal the performance of
a Color Turbostation.
Oh yeah, while we're at it, what is the fastest SCSI controller
for Intel. Does it really matter if the drives aren't going
synchronous and most drives only push about 1 meg/sec? (For example,
I am using ISA, but I know that some VESA or even EISA controller
should do very well.)
Is this on an HTTP site anywhere?
Dru
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer)
Subject: Re: NeXT Cube & Syquest drives
Message-ID: <1994Nov2.104257.2359@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de
Organization: NeXT EnTHUSIAST
References: <1994Oct31.182917.24478@adobe.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:42:57 GMT
In article <1994Oct31.182917.24478@adobe.com> jheiser@adobe.com (James
Heiser) writes:
#hendryj@mcs.com writes
#>
#> How well do NeXT's work with Syquest removables? Are there any problems?
#>
#> Do they work with the newer 105 & 270 MB models?
#
#I have a 105MB Syquest hooked up to a Station, a Cube, and a Mac. All
#three work without any problems. I mount Mac formated 105's on my NeXT's
#as well. Haven't tried the 270, but there shouldn't be any difference.
#
I use the 3.5" 270MB on a cube. Works fine for me.
You may use, NeXT and MAC format, but not IBM, as far as I know.
so long
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From: cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Arnaud Scomparin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 2 Nov 1994 11:13:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <397s8e$ib1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I just set up this machine... here are the results for the
Adaptec 2940 driver in NS3.3PR2:
Read: 1250Kb/s
Write: 600Kb/s
(synchronise on, fast scsi not available yet)
With the same disk I've got 6.3Mb/s under DOS...
NeXT seems not to be very good at writing drivers...
From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Magnetic Optical or DAT drive for backup
Date: 2 Nov 1994 12:52:52 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <398234$apf@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Hello,
I am trying to make a decision on whether to purchase a Magnetic Optical or a
DAT drive for backup. Any reason why you would purchase one of the drives and
not the other I would very much like to know.
If you have any suggestion/s on any drive/s in particular I need the following
information:
Manufacture:
Model:
Specs (any information):
Cost:
Drivers( where can I get them):
Backup Software:
Best Place to Purchase:
Comments (Good and/or bad):
Any help with the above would be greatly appreciated.
Also, if there are any Magnetic Optical or DAT tape drives that I should stay
away from please let me know.
Thanks in advance,
Michael
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 2 Nov 1994 09:07:26 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3986eu$1p1@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <397s8e$ib1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Arnaud Scomparin (cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: I just set up this machine... here are the results for the
: Adaptec 2940 driver in NS3.3PR2:
: Read: 1250Kb/s
: Write: 600Kb/s
: (synchronise on, fast scsi not available yet)
: With the same disk I've got 6.3Mb/s under DOS...
: NeXT seems not to be very good at writing drivers...
Maybe I won't upgrade to 3.3 after all...I was counting on using the 2940
driver. With performance like that, I'll stick with my NCR 53C825 w/Talus
driver which is currently producing over 2400kb/s. I have yet to see a
NeXT driver that worked well.
- Jay
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI GUP 64 driver PCI/VLB/VRAM/DRAM
Date: 2 Nov 1994 08:57:44 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3985so$1g7@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Oct27.092807.926@osd.glas.ap>
root@osd.glas.apc.org wrote:
: The Object Software Development (OSD) is going to put their ATI
: Ultra PRO PCI/VLB/VRAM/DRAM driver for NS/FIP 3.2 along with
: the original Inspector on the seanet.com ftp-site. It will
: occur today I hope :-).
And I recently paid $50 for a mach64 driver :-(
- Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: NeXT Cube & Syquest drives
Message-ID: <Cyn5ur.L9@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <1994Oct31.165230.18290@il.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 13:08:51 GMT
In article <1994Oct31.165230.18290@il.us.swissbank.com> hendryj@mcs.com writes:
>
> How well do NeXT's work with Syquest removables? Are there any problems?
>
> Do they work with the newer 105 & 270 MB models?
I don't know for cubes, but have a SyQuest 270MB removable running with my black slab.
Works like a charmer; quiet and fast.
You may even have a full NS3.2 bootable system on one.
An amazing 'super-floppy'.
NeXT-formatted ~221 MB.
Juergen
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Date: 2 Nov 1994 09:29:32 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <397l36$r6b@core.symnet.net>
Dru Nelson (dnelson@core.symnet.net) wrote:
: About how much faster is an AMD 80, Sparc?, Pentium-60, or a Pentium-90
: than a 486DX-66?
Sparc - it depends on which SPARC chip it is.
P-60 - Nearly twice as fast on integer, faster on fp
P-90 - 2-3 times as fast, faster on fp
AMD - not familiar
: Which of these could readily outperform or equal the performance of
: a Color Turbostation.
All of them. The Turbos used a 33mhz 68040, which were surpassed in
performance years ago by all classes of processors.
: Oh yeah, while we're at it, what is the fastest SCSI controller
: for Intel. Does it really matter if the drives aren't going
: synchronous and most drives only push about 1 meg/sec? (For example,
: I am using ISA, but I know that some VESA or even EISA controller
: should do very well.)
Yes, performance does matter. Especially with a system like NS, which
accesses the disk frequently. PCI is the best, with VESA coming in
second. I'm currently getting 2.3MB/s with an NCR 825 PCI SCSI card.
Those using the Adaptec 2940 with 3.3PR2 have complained about poor
performance, although this is entirely due to inferior NeXT drivers.
ISA is an ancient, (hopefully) dying bus, and a performance bottleneck.
Avoid it for all bandwidth-intensive I/O. VLB has seen it's day, and is
quickly being pushed out of the picture by PCI, but there are still a
good number of VL-bus SCSI controllers available. The EISA controllers
that I've seen tend to be more expensive than their PCI or VLB
counterparts.
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Plato ?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 09:37:36 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <39887g$2eh@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <CyME6M.4Lw@freenet.carleton.ca>
Rashpal Singh (ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
: Has anyone successfully installed an Adaptec 2940 with the ATI
: Graphics Pro Turbo on an Intel Plato motherboard ? I am assuming
: one would have to get the SCSI and Video drivers from talus. I can't
: even get the machine to correctly come up under DOS. It just locks
: up during boot-up. Bios versions follow:
: Motherboard: AMI 1.00.10.AX1
: Adaptec: V1.11
I have both of these peripherals on an Intel MB, with no problems - under
DOS. There is currently no 2940 driver for NS 3.2, although there will be
one in 3.3 (poor performance, though). Don't bother with the mach64
drivers from Talus - there is a better driver available now for free. You
can get it from ftp.seanet.com.
As for the lock-up problem, you'll have to provide more specific info on
your setup.
- Jay
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 2 Nov 1994 14:57:35 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3989cv$1gdh@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <397s8e$ib1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
In article , writes:
>I just set up this machine... here are the results for the
>Adaptec 2940 driver in NS3.3PR2:
>
>Read: 1250Kb/s
>Write: 600Kb/s
This clearly indicates that you write cache is turned off. The same
results can be obtained with the NCR+Talus Driver combination. It's not
a driver question in the first place, it is related to the write cache
status in the disk's mode sense page.
Unfortunately, I haven't found a goddamn' tool for turning that cache on.
(which is turned off by default on many disks due to any weird old DOS
combatability :-((
The one Darcy proposed from hasc.ca didn't work for me - the write cache
still remains off.
--
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// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
// ...have a look at http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html //
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM installation/NCR
Date: 2 Nov 1994 14:58:18 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3989ea$1qd@news.blkbox.com>
References: <39601j$vd@news.nynexst.com>
In article <39601j$vd@news.nynexst.com> hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu) writes:
> Does NS support my NCR 53C810 SCSI card? No, I am not talking about
> something I have to pay extra.
>
> H.J.
If your question is "is there a free driver from NeXT for the NCR
53C810?", the answer is no. NS 3.3 will also not ship with a driver for
the NCR 53C810. So you can pay for a new SCSI controller that has a free
driver, or you can pay (less) for a driver for the NCR that you already
have. Unfortunately, those are the only two choices currently available.
If you need the NCR driver, you can drop us a line at: info@talus.com
Steve Sarich
steve@talus.com
From: ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Optimizing a Nextstep system
Date: 2 Nov 1994 14:33:40 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <398804$d1d@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Hello all,
My system configuration consists of the following:
DECpc XL 590
340 Mb Maxtor Fast SCSI-2 Hard drive
32 Mb RAM
NEC 4Xi CDROM
1 Gb Fast SCSI-2 Micropolis MC4110LT
Nokia 445X Monitor
Elsa WINNER PRO2000 w/ 4 Mb VRAM (will use resolution 1280 x 1024 @ 85Hz 16bit)
I currently have Windows/DOS on the 340 Mb drive. I plan on spending 80% of my time using
Nextstep to learn OOP and develope applications and the remainder of the time in the
Windows/DOS environment. I need about 75 Mb of disk space for Windows/DOS, taking
future use in consideration.
I have the following questions:
How should I partition the hard drives so that I can utilize the disk space
as effciently as possible for both Nextstep user/developer and Window/DOS
environments?
What is a good swap disk size for a Nextstep developer environment?
Any other suggestions/recommendations on how I can optimize this system?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
From: roland@dobag.in-berlin.de (Roland Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Driver for NCR810
Date: 2 Nov 1994 18:20:17 +0100
Organization: dobag computer systems - berlin germany
Message-ID: <398hoh$hsj@DoBag.IN-Berlin.DE>
Hi!
Is there a driver for the NCR810 SCSI chip for Nextstep for
Intel. I have an offer for one for 280 DM thats arround $175.
I think this is a little to expensive for just a driver, so if
anybody knows of a free or maybe cheaper one, please be so kind to
let me know.
Regards
Roland Becker
e-mail: roland@dobag.in-berlin.de
From: t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Notebook working!
Message-ID: <3023@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Date: 2 Nov 94 16:45:14 GMT
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
Some time ago I asked on the net whether anybody could give me information
about some notebooks running NeXTstep, and how it was loaded into it. I
have also noted that more people seem to have the same problems. By now I
have a running system, so I would like to tell about the 'adventure'.
I started when my regular dealer was on vacation. I decided to have a look
at the advertisements in some american journals. Private imports are
usually cheaper, but they are more problematic with respect to service. My
eye fell on two systems. One by Gateway-2000 and one by 'Austin'. I sent
both a fax, asking for information concerning the feasability of putting
NeXTstep on their machines. The first company never answered my fax
(probably the reaction was: NeXTstep??????), and the second just sent a
number of product sheets, but the real question was never answered. Then I
asked on the net what people knew about this last computer and I got an
answer that somebody had one running NeXTstep, but that it had been put on
it in a special way by somebody else who had done it as a personal favor.
Fortunately by that time my dealer came back from vacation (Eric
Reichenbach,RNI) and took an interest in this. First he realized that the
Austin computers are also sold in Holland (I believe under the name IPC),
but then he knew about some other good computers too. So we ended up at a
company selling 'Advance' computers. They have some nice systems in which
one is allowed to upgrade things like the screen and the memory in a rather
flexible way. The claim was that it should give no problems to put NeXTstep
on it and we could borrow a docking station to do it. The delivery time
would be 3 weeks (the thing had to come from the USA). based on these
promises we ordered one. After three weeks it was not there and I had to go
abroad without.
During my absence it arrived and the docking station was tried with the
proper adaptec card and it gave DMA errors, so it would not load NeXTstep.
They claimed that somebody else had bought one and had NeXTstep on it. So
Eric called this person and the answer was "I wish it were true". This
person had the same problem. Hence Eric sent the machine back. Then he
started a new approach. He managed to find some adapters to put a 2.5 inch
drive in a 3.5 inch slot (they are hard to find here). Then he bought a 2.5
inch drive and loaded NeXTstep onto it in a normal computer. And then he
went around to see which systems would accept this disk. Now the Advance,
the IPC and also a Topline computer accepted this. So suddenly there was a
choice again, and the Topline computer was equiped with a pentium. So that
is the one I ended up with now (parameters at the bottom). The only two
problems that are left are: In the machine the trackball is hardware
configured at COM2: and
NeXTstep does not want to pick it up from COM2:, only from COM1:. This
problem was traced to Configure.app which writes some nonensence when the
com-port is set to "1" in Instance0.table of the serialmouse driver. Once
this is edited by hand it works properly. Anyway, at the moment I use
mostly an external mouse, because I am used to that.
The other problem concerns the sound system. Presumably it is Soundblaster
compatible, and software compatible with Microsoft Windows Sound System. It
has to be installed on interrupt channel 2 or 9, at DMA channel 1 and
address 0x240. Configure.app refuses to do this and once this has been done
anyway the needed address is given as illegal during startup. The system
either remains mute or hangs, depending on how much is edited by hand in
the Instance0.table file. We tried this both with the MWS driver and a
soundblaster driver. If anybody knows the solution to this problem I would
like to hear it.
For the rest it is a very nice machine and very fast. In principle the TFT
screen has a problem: the brightness has only two positions, but with
NeXTstep that is no real problem. The slider in the Preferences.app gives
continuous adjustment anyway. So I am a happy portable NeXTstepper, and
actually also quite pleased with the dealer who went way beyond the call of
duty. (Of course he smells some bussines here). As to the price: When we
compared 486DX2-66 systems the Topline was cheapest of all machines that we
could find. It is harder to compare pentium systems, because not every
company has one yet. I could post prices here, but that seems rather
meaningless, as they differ in each country. I have noted a 20% loss in
performance over a regular non-portable pentium system. This seems to be
acceptable (and quite normal). NeXTstep runs really well on it. The battery
(NiMH) is good for 2 hours, but the setup program can activate some power
saving features, like having the pentium run at 1/3 speed (enough when you
are only editing), and switching off the screen or the motor of the drive
after some time. I have not yet experimented with these facilities. Of
course the screen dimmer of NeXTstep works also.
The system:
Topline pentinote.
Pentium at 60 MHz. 400 Mbytes disk, 24 Mbytes memory (I ordered 16 Mbytes,
but they could not deliver fast enough, so for the moment I paid for 24 and
when they have the smaller module I can downgrade and get the difference
back).
The weight is somewhat high, 3.7 kg. This seems to be a trend, because
people are asking for more and more functionality. The machine has 1 Mbyte
of video RAM. This may cause problems with external color monitors.
Jos Vermaseren
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM installation requirements for ns-intel
Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:29:32 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <398i9s$76p@news.onramp.net>
References: <39601j$vd@news.nynexst.com>
> H.J.In article <39601j$vd@news.nynexst.com> hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
writes:
> Does NS support my NCR 53C810 SCSI card? No, I am not talking about
> something I have to pay extra.
Well, the Talus driver isn't free, but a $70 NCR53C810 card plus a $75-100
driver seems to me to be better than a) no PCI SCSI controller, or b)a
$350 Adaptec 2940 with a slow driver under 3.3
I guess we'll have to see what the performance under 3.3 will
really be, but the NCR is 2-3 times faster than the ISA 1540, depending on
whose setup and which benchmarks you look at. Not a bad solution, and
there will be better drivers (including a new Talus beta, that I won't
discuss here, yet... Steve?) coming along for the NCR. I don't think you
can say the same for any of the ISA/VL cards now available.
Just a thought.
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
(713) 531-7959
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 2 Nov 1994 18:38:21 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3997td$i7d@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <397s8e$ib1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <3989cv$1gdh@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
: This clearly indicates that you write cache is turned off. The same
: results can be obtained with the NCR+Talus Driver combination. It's not
: a driver question in the first place, it is related to the write cache
: status in the disk's mode sense page.
Apparently, this only afflicts certain drives. The two Micropolis drives
in my system had write cache turned on, and are excellent performers with
the NCR/Talus combo.
- Jay
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Date: 2 Nov 1994 18:42:10 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <39984i$i9g@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <397l36$r6b@core.symnet.net> <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net>
Jay Fuchs (jjfox@anshar.shadow.net) wrote:
: Those using the Adaptec 2940 with 3.3PR2 have complained about poor
: performance, although this is entirely due to inferior NeXT drivers.
Correction. I should have stated that some of those using the 2940 have
given low(er) numbers, and the problem _may_ be the NeXT driver.
- Jay
From: schwett@differencengine.hip.berkeley.edu (Mark Schwettmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NXBench for ATI mach64 ?
Date: 2 Nov 1994 22:56:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3995er$bkb@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3963mr$4j7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
> I would be very interested in hearing NXBench numbers for the ATI
> Graphics Ultra Turbo PCI! Is it comparable with the S3 cards ? Are the
> critical modes really working without noise ?
I just installed the drive on my Pentium/90 system, and it's working
wonderfully at 1152x864 with 32 bit color.
NXBench gives me 1.64 at that mode... but then again, I don't really trust
NXBench that much.
Thanks, guys, for the great driver!
Mark Schwettmann
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Solutions@Radical.Com
Subject: Radical Solution #1 - Minding Your DMA's and IRQ's
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Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 22:51:50 GMT
=====================================================================
RADICAL SOLUTION (TM) #1 - MINDING YOUR DMA'S AND IRQ'S
=====================================================================
COPYRIGHT: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Anaheim Hills, California
Phone: (714) 280-1619
E-mail: solutions@radical.com
Permission granted to distribute unmodified with
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DISCLAIMER: This Radical Solution (TM) is distributed on an "as is"
basis with no warranty expressed or implied. Use at
your own risk. Your mileage may vary.
=====================================================================
Radical Solution (TM) #1 November 1994
The most difficult aspect of configuring an AT-compatible PC to run
NEXTSTEP for Intel is resolving device conflicts. It is the intent
of this Radical Solution (TM) technical note to provide assistance
with resolving IRQ, DMA, and Base I/O Address conflicts.
The first step to take is to inventory all of the IRQ's, DMA's, and
Base I/O Addresses used by the system and by any additional user
installed devices. Use Configure.app, read the device manuals and
examine the devices themselves to obtain this information. Include
every device whether it is intended for use by NEXTSTEP or not.
The following table illustrates the resources utilized by a standard
AT-compatible system:
IRQ DMA Base I/O Device
-----------------------------------------------------------------
0 System Timer
1 060-067 Keyboard
2* Cascade for interrupts 8-15
3 2F8-2FF Serial Port COM2
4 3F8-3FF Serial Port COM1
5 278-27A Parallel Port LPT2
6 2 3F0-3F7 Floppy Disk Controller
7 378-37A Parallel Port LPT1
8 Realtime Clock
9* Redirected IRQ2
10 (available)
11 (available)
12 (available)
13 Math Coprocessor
14 1F0-1F8 Hard Disk Controller (IDE)
15 (available)
*IRQ2 and IRQ9 are equivalent and are treated as a single interrupt.
Depending on the motherboard and BIOS, various combinations arise.
IRQ2/IRQ9 may be mapped to IRQ2 or IRQ9 or both. Some systems
only work with the device set to IRQ2 with the interrupt reporting
as IRQ9 or vice versa. A side effect of the IRQ cascading worth
noting is that the IRQ's have the following priorities:
High 0 1 2/9 10 11 12 13 14 15 3 4 5 6 7 8 Low.
The following table shows the default resources utilized by some
common user installed devices:
IRQ DMA Base I/O Device
-----------------------------------------------------------------
200-207 Game Port
2 330-338 PAS 16 MPU-401 Emulation
2 2E8-2EF Some Video Adapters - Most Don't
3 2E8-2EF Serial Port COM4
3 300-30F Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernet Adapter
4 3E8-3EF Serial Port COM3
5/7 278-27A Parallel Port LPT3
5 1 220-22F Sound Blaster Sound Adapter
5 1 220-22F PAS 16 Sound Blaster Emulation
7 3 388 Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound Adapter
7 5 330-333 Adaptec 154X SCSI Adapter
Some other possible areas of contention are with the BIOS and memory
mapped address spaces used by some devices. This is generally not
a problem but should be taken into consideration.
The following table lists the default BIOS and memory mapped address
space utilized by some standard and common devices:
Address Space Device
------------------------------------------------------
A000-C7FF Video Adapter BIOS
DC00-DFFF Adaptec 154X SCSI Adapter BIOS
F000-FFFF System BIOS
80000000-9FFFFFFF Video Adapter Memory Mapped
The next step to take is to note the device resource conflicts.
Carefully observe the first two tables above and note some of the
potential conflicts between IRQ's, DMA's, and Base I/O Adresses.
Left to their own doing, devices will conflict with one another.
Once the conflicts are discovered, the final step is to resolve them.
This is easier said than done. First try and reconfigure one of the
conflicting devices to another available setting. If the resolution
of the conflict is not obvious from the inventory taken, try to
reconfigure all of the devices as suggested for NEXTSTEP. Another
possibility is to configure the devices to match another working
system. The remaining option is to experiment, which can become a
very long and frustrating process.
The following table summarizes the resources utilized by a system
that has been running NEXTSTEP for Intel without incident:
IRQ DMA Base I/O Device
-----------------------------------------------------------------
0 System Timer
1 060-067 Keyboard
2 (see IRQ9)
3 2F8-2FF Serial Port COM2
4 3F8-3FF Serial Port COM1
5 (available)
6 2 3F0-3F7 Floppy Disk Controller
7 378-37F Parallel Port LPT1
8 Realtime Clock
9 (available)
10 300-30F Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernet Adapter
11 5 334-338 Adaptec 1542CF SCSI Adapter
12 7 388 Pro Audio 16 Basic Sound Adapter
13 Math Coprocessor
14 1F0-1F8 Hard Disk Controller (IDE)
15 (available)
Another possibility to consider is that the conflict may not be with
another device but with the system itself. Try the devices in
various slots. Make sure that the device is in the correct type of
slot. There may be 8-bit ISA, 16-bit ISA, 32-bit EISA, 32-bit VLB,
32-bit PCI, or 64-bit PCI slots on a motherboard. Also try different
combinations of IRQ's and DMA's for the devices. Note that DMA's
0-3 are for 8-bit transfers and 4-7 are for 16-bit transfers. In
general, IRQ's 0-7 are for 8-bit devices and 8-15 are for 16-bit
devices. Also check that the system BIOS is configured properly.
Some systems with more than 16MB of RAM misbehave when ROM shadowing
is enabled.
If all else fails, give up! Not every device will work with every
other device or motherboard. That's one of the facts of life when
working with AT-compatible PC systems.
=====================================================================
Next issue, RADICAL SOLUTION (TM) #2 - ROLLING YOUR OWN SYSTEM
=====================================================================
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
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From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dual booting off of a SCSI disk partitioned for NS + Windows
Date: 3 Nov 1994 01:09:43 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <399d8n$742@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <19OCT199409143342@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
We also need to set up a dual boot system. Here's the set up
Dell Omniplex 466. This is a 486/66.
The bus is EISA.
It also has PCI slots.
32 MB RAM
1 GB SCSI hard drive -- partitioned into 512 MB each for Windows and NS 3.2
HP DAT backup drive
3 1/2" floppy drive
Toshiba 3401 internal SCSI CD-ROM drive
#9 GXE Lite Video board (2 MB video RAM)
4 MB cache memory on DPT controller card (DPT 2012, I think)
There is also a NCR 810 SCSI interface chip off the main board
Etherlink III EISA network board (3c579, I think)
Mediavision Pro Audio Spectrum sound board (16)
NEC Multisync 6FGp 21" monitor
NextStep 3.2 (full package)
The SCSI drive has a 512 MB DOS partition and a 512 MB NS
partition. The latter doesn't boot. The former works fine.
Any tips?
--
Sha Xin Wei
mathematics and scientific simulations
distributed multimedia
telephone: 415/725-3152 (work,msg)
415/725-8240 (fax)
internet: xinwei@jessica.stanford.edu
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MCCOLLAM, DONALD E writes
> Hi. I have a NeXTcube etherneted to my new Intel box which can boot to
> NS/I or DOS/Windows. I have a NCR-based SCSI card on the Intel box.
..
> However, I'm not sure what
> I will need to do to get access to the devices on the Windows side.
> Do I need special device drivers in addition to whatever Windows software
> I end up getting for back up and image processing? Or is the fact that
> I have a SCSI driver for DOS/Windows sufficient?
> Advice appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Don McCollam
> mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 3 Nov 1994 03:09:21 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <399k91$fqf@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <397s8e$ib1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <3989cv$1gdh@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3989cv$1gdh@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>
>In article , writes:
>>I just set up this machine... here are the results for the
>>Adaptec 2940 driver in NS3.3PR2:
>>
>>Read: 1250Kb/s
>>Write: 600Kb/s
>
>This clearly indicates that you write cache is turned off. The same
>results can be obtained with the NCR+Talus Driver combination. It's not
>a driver question in the first place, it is related to the write cache
>status in the disk's mode sense page.
This driver doesn't perform all that well as of the beta. It's
not using the fast SCSI-II operations yet, and will support it.
While write caching may also factor in on this, from what I've
seen, the driver just isn't ready for prime time. It's beta!
We shouldn't even be talking about it, but I thought I should
so that people don't get the wrong idea. After 3.3 is out, then
I'm sure everyone will know how the 2940 performs (because if
it's bad, then I'll tell everyone ;-).
However, I think it'll be just fine when the release is done.
>Unfortunately, I haven't found a goddamn' tool for turning that cache on.
>(which is turned off by default on many disks due to any weird old DOS
>combatability :-((
>The one Darcy proposed from hasc.ca didn't work for me - the write cache
>still remains off.
Damn, I was going to suggest that... you might want to call the disk
manufacturer then. If there's no jumper, then it has to be settable
via software somewhere.
Note that the tools on hasc.ca:/pub/barracuda need a DOS ASPI
driver installed. All Adaptec cards come with ASPI drivers (I
assume, since the 'A' in ASPI stands for Adaptec ;-) and the
NCR cards we have all have ASPI drivers on disk. If you didn't
install an ASPI driver, then the utilities have nothing to talk
to.
- darcy
--
"Dear Homer, I owe you one emergency donut. Signed, Homer."
Bastard! He's always one step ahead of me! -- Homer Simpson
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Date: 3 Nov 1994 03:02:20 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <399jrs$fc0@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <397l36$r6b@core.symnet.net> <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>Dru Nelson (dnelson@core.symnet.net) wrote:
>
>: About how much faster is an AMD 80, Sparc?, Pentium-60, or a Pentium-90
>: than a 486DX-66?
>
>Sparc - it depends on which SPARC chip it is.
>P-60 - Nearly twice as fast on integer, faster on fp
>P-90 - 2-3 times as fast, faster on fp
Uhhh... if the P/60 is 2x as fast as the 466, how do you get
2-3 for the P/90? (since that would make is 2-3 times as fast
as a P/60, which doesn't make much sense)
The integer speed ratio is more like this:
466:P66:P90 == 2:3:4
So, the P/60 is less than 1.5 times the speed of a 466 for
integer (since the P66 is roughly 1.5x as fast as the 466).
More interesting:
466:4100:P66:P90 == 2:3:3:4
Integer wise... of course, when you're dealing with Pentiums,
things can change a bit depending on the code and the compiler,
since the architecture is a bit different from the older x86
models.
BTW, a Sparc2 at 40MHz is slightly slower than a 466. Normal
benchmarking caveats apply.
>: Which of these could readily outperform or equal the performance of
>: a Color Turbostation.
>
>All of them. The Turbos used a 33mhz 68040, which were surpassed in
>performance years ago by all classes of processors.
This is correct.
>Yes, performance does matter. Especially with a system like NS, which
>accesses the disk frequently. PCI is the best, with VESA coming in
>second. I'm currently getting 2.3MB/s with an NCR 825 PCI SCSI card.
>Those using the Adaptec 2940 with 3.3PR2 have complained about poor
>performance, although this is entirely due to inferior NeXT drivers.
Well, give them some credit. The driver is still in beta, along
with the rest of 3.3.
What's a nice hidden bonus in 3.3 is that the #9 GXE 64 Pro driver
will run in 8bit color. 8bit color is very quick... and not all that
bad to look at!
- db
--
"Dear Homer, I owe you one emergency donut. Signed, Homer."
Bastard! He's always one step ahead of me! -- Homer Simpson
From: student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter Burka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black cube '040 slot
Date: 3 Nov 1994 03:58:55 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown, PEI Canada
Message-ID: <399n5v$9gb@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Looking at some black '040 motherboards today, I noticed an unusual slot.
It looks like a 72-pin SIMM socket, but it is slightly too small. Can
anyone tell me what this is?
Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Plato ?
In-Reply-To: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net's message of 2 Nov 1994 09:37:36 -0500
To: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
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In article <39887g$2eh@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
Rashpal Singh (ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
: Has anyone successfully installed an Adaptec 2940 with the ATI
: Graphics Pro Turbo on an Intel Plato motherboard ? I am assuming
: one would have to get the SCSI and Video drivers from talus. I can't
: even get the machine to correctly come up under DOS. It just locks
: up during boot-up. Bios versions follow:
: Motherboard: AMI 1.00.10.AX1
: Adaptec: V1.11
I have both of these peripherals on an Intel MB, with no problems - under
DOS. There is currently no 2940 driver for NS 3.2, although there will be
one in 3.3 (poor performance, though). Don't bother with the mach64
drivers from Talus - there is a better driver available now for free. You
can get it from ftp.seanet.com.
Whether performance is poor is certainly a matter of debate.
Unfortunately not here as in principle everybody who has the NS
Adaptec 2940 driver has also signed a non-disclosure agreement and
hence is not allowed to discuss its performance. However I think I
can say that the Adaptec 2940 reputedly delivers as high an SCSI
performance as any NS host adapter and one higher than almost any
other.
Carl Edman
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
In-Reply-To: cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu's message of 2 Nov 1994 11:13:18 GMT
To: cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Arnaud Scomparin)
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In article <397s8e$ib1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Arnaud Scomparin) writes:
I just set up this machine... here are the results for the
Adaptec 2940 driver in NS3.3PR2:
And didn't you sign an NDA ?
Read: 1250Kb/s
Write: 600Kb/s
(synchronise on, fast scsi not available yet)
Well, those results may very well be what you got. I do not think
that they are representative.
With the same disk I've got 6.3Mb/s under DOS...
I don't think that there is any SCSI hard disk which mechanically can
deliver such performance on a sustained basis regardless of host
adapter and OS. So I'd take that number cum grano salis.
NeXT seems not to be very good at writing drivers...
That is unfortunately true.
Carl Edman
From: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC Alpha AXP and NS???
Date: 2 Nov 1994 22:47:30 GMT
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Todd Takken writes
> In article <392v7f$d9j@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle
> Hearfield) writes:
>
> > Does anyone know if NeXTStep will run on a DEC Alpha AXP, I know
> > that the alpha uses a RISC processor. Does this change things?
> > Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> NextStep will not run on any DEC at the moment. I believe that
> distributed objects might be selling for DEC (anybody know?). However,
> NextStep only runs on NeXTs, Intel PCs and HPs. SUNs are next to get
> NextStep. DEC is much further down the line.
DEC & NeXT have announced that DEC will do the OpenStep Implementation on top
of OSF. This clearly excludes a native NEXTSTEP port. I suggest, that you ask
the DEC people when a decent GUI for the Alpha will finally appear :-) .
The OS layer diagrams I have seen, also exclude an integrated X11 Windowserver
in contrast to the Solaris OpenStep Implementation. This make the DEC-OpenStep
look much more like a NEXTSTEP (a real DPS etc.), especially if you consider
that OFS also uses a MACH Kernel. Therefore it should be much easier to
implement.
Anyone with good contacts inside of DEC ?
Cheers
Reimer
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From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: upgrading cirrus or new gfx card?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 11:51:01 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <39air5$t6s@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hello NeXTheads,
I'd like to install NS on my 486DX2. Current config is
2G disc, Cirrus 5426 1MB, 20M RAM...
Now:
to get 12-bit (or 24-bit) color, should i upgrade my gfx
card to 2 megs, or is it better to buy a new card (diamond
stealth? viper pro? ????)
I don't read this newsgroup frequently, but i DO have to
decide quickly, PLS. mail me directly!
my account is smantler@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at
Tnx!!
-SM
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From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: Re: Black cube '040 slot
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 12:43:08 GMT
In article <399n5v$9gb@atlas.cs.upei.ca> student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter
Burka) writes:
> Looking at some black '040 motherboards today, I noticed an unusual
slot.
> It looks like a 72-pin SIMM socket, but it is slightly too small. Can
> anyone tell me what this is?
>
Maybe to add more cache for the DSP?
Robert.
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From: Matthias.Brill@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Matthias Brill)
Subject: Help! How much RAM for 68K monoCube??
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 13:04:56 GMT
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Yo Guys!
Some questions (want to buy a monoCube...)
How much RAM was in the original Cubes ?
How much RAM would you suggest for a monoCube
in a 'normal' working environment ?
(TextProsessing, Compiling, RenderMan is
'normal' :)
Could a 'conventional' Cube be updated with
a Dimension Card to get Colors ? (or is this
just a daydream of an foolish NSfIntel Guy
like me ? :)
...I think these are not very interesting
informations for the average ...next.hardware
reader, so send any suggestions via EMail to
save BW.
Thank and c.u.
-ThiaS-
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Notebook working!
Date: 3 Nov 1994 14:59:15 GMT
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In article <3023@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) writes:
> Some time ago I asked on the net whether anybody
> could give me information about some notebooks
> running NeXTstep, and how it was loaded into it.
> I have also noted that more people seem to have
> the same problems. By now I have a running
> system, so I would like to tell about the
> 'adventure'.
>
> I started when my regular dealer was on vacation.
> I decided to have a look at the advertisements in
> some american journals. Private imports are
> usually cheaper, but they are more problematic
> with respect to service. My eye fell on two
> systems. One by Gateway-2000 and one by 'Austin'.
> I sent both a fax, asking for information
> concerning the feasability of putting NeXTstep on
> their machines. The first company never answered
> my fax (probably the reaction was:
> NeXTstep??????), and the second just sent a
> number of product sheets, but the real question
> was never answered. Then I asked on the net what
> people knew about this last computer and I got an
> answer that somebody had one running NeXTstep,
> but that it had been put on it in a special way
> by somebody else who had done it as a personal
> favor. Fortunately by that time my dealer came
> back from vacation (Eric Reichenbach,RNI) and
> took an interest in this. First he realized that
> the Austin computers are also sold in Holland (I
> believe under the name IPC), but then he knew
> about some other good computers too. So we ended
> up at a company selling 'Advance' computers. They
> have some nice systems in which one is allowed to
> upgrade things like the screen and the memory in
> a rather flexible way. The claim was that it
> should give no problems to put NeXTstep on it and
> we could borrow a docking station to do it. The
> delivery time would be 3 weeks (the thing had to
> come from the USA). based on these promises we
> ordered one. After three weeks it was not there
> and I had to go abroad without. During my absence
> it arrived and the docking station was tried with
> the proper adaptec card and it gave DMA errors,
> so it would not load NeXTstep. They claimed that
> somebody else had bought one and had NeXTstep on
> it. So Eric called this person and the answer was
> "I wish it were true". This person had the same
> problem. Hence Eric sent the machine back. Then
> he started a new approach. He managed to find
> some adapters to put a 2.5 inch drive in a 3.5
> inch slot (they are hard to find here). Then he
> bought a 2.5 inch drive and loaded NeXTstep onto
> it in a normal computer. And then he went around
> to see which systems would accept this disk. Now
> the Advance, the IPC and also a Topline computer
> accepted this. So suddenly there was a choice
> again, and the Topline computer was equiped with
> a pentium. So that is the one I ended up with now
> (parameters at the bottom). The only two problems
> that are left are: In the machine the trackball
> is hardware configured at COM2: and NeXTstep does
> not want to pick it up from COM2:, only from
> COM1:. This problem was traced to Configure.app
> which writes some nonensence when the com-port is
> set to "1" in Instance0.table of the serialmouse
> driver. Once this is edited by hand it works
> properly. Anyway, at the moment I use mostly an
> external mouse, because I am used to that. The
> other problem concerns the sound system.
> Presumably it is Soundblaster compatible, and
> software compatible with Microsoft Windows Sound
> System. It has to be installed on interrupt
> channel 2 or 9, at DMA channel 1 and address
> 0x240. Configure.app refuses to do this and once
> this has been done anyway the needed address is
> given as illegal during startup. The system
> either remains mute or hangs, depending on how
> much is edited by hand in the Instance0.table
> file. We tried this both with the MWS driver and
> a soundblaster driver. If anybody knows the
> solution to this problem I would like to hear it.
> For the rest it is a very nice machine and very
> fast. In principle the TFT screen has a problem:
> the brightness has only two positions, but with
> NeXTstep that is no real problem. The slider in
> the Preferences.app gives continuous adjustment
> anyway. So I am a happy portable NeXTstepper, and
> actually also quite pleased with the dealer who
> went way beyond the call of duty. (Of course he
> smells some bussines here). As to the price: When
> we compared 486DX2-66 systems the Topline was
> cheapest of all machines that we could find. It
> is harder to compare pentium systems, because not
> every company has one yet. I could post prices
> here, but that seems rather meaningless, as they
> differ in each country. I have noted a 20% loss
> in performance over a regular non-portable
> pentium system. This seems to be acceptable (and
> quite normal). NeXTstep runs really well on it.
> The battery (NiMH) is good for 2 hours, but the
> setup program can activate some power saving
> features, like having the pentium run at 1/3
> speed (enough when you are only editing), and
> switching off the screen or the motor of the
> drive after some time. I have not yet
> experimented with these facilities. Of course the
> screen dimmer of NeXTstep works also.
>
> The system: Topline pentinote. Pentium at 60 MHz.
> 400 Mbytes disk, 24 Mbytes memory (I ordered 16
> Mbytes, but they could not deliver fast enough, so
> for the moment I paid for 24 and when they have
> the smaller module I can downgrade and get the
> difference back). The weight is somewhat high, 3.7
> kg. This seems to be a trend, because people are
> asking for more and more functionality. The
> machine has 1 Mbyte of video RAM. This may cause
> problems with external color monitors.
>
> Jos Vermaseren
OORRR....you could have purchased a Talus color notebook with NS already
installed and ready to run, with 16-bit color and sound...and weighing
only 2.86kg (6.3lbs). The performance of the DX-4 100Mhz is comparable to
that of the 60Mhz Pentium, but it uses far less battery power and it stays
a LOT cooler than the 60Mhz Pentium.
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
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From: ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashpal Singh)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Plato ?
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 03:20:15 GMT
In a previous article, jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) says:
>Rashpal Singh (ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
>
>: Has anyone successfully installed an Adaptec 2940 with the ATI
>: Graphics Pro Turbo on an Intel Plato motherboard ? I am assuming
>: one would have to get the SCSI and Video drivers from talus. I can't
>: even get the machine to correctly come up under DOS. It just locks
>: up during boot-up. Bios versions follow:
>: Motherboard: AMI 1.00.10.AX1
>: Adaptec: V1.11
>
>I have both of these peripherals on an Intel MB, with no problems - under
>DOS. There is currently no 2940 driver for NS 3.2, although there will be
>one in 3.3 (poor performance, though). Don't bother with the mach64
>drivers from Talus - there is a better driver available now for free. You
>can get it from ftp.seanet.com.
>
>As for the lock-up problem, you'll have to provide more specific info on
>your setup.
>
>- Jay
>
>
Jay,
Thanks for the info about free mach64 drivers.
Following are the details of my setup.
Jumpers on the motherboard are set to factory defaults, which are:
J1H3 - CPU speed (set to 90MHz)
J1H4 - Not used
J1J6 - Clear/don't clear CMOS - set to don't clear
J6J2 - Flash normal boot mode/flash recovery boot mode - defaul normal
J7J1 - Allow/disallow entry into Setup Program - default allow
J7J2 - Enable/disable flash updates - default enable
J7J3 - Monochrom/color - default color
J7J4 - Clear/don't clear password - default don't
BIOS AMI 1.00.10.AX1
Floppy A: Type 1.44 MB
Hard disk C: Not Installed
Hard disk D: "
Hard disk E: "
Hard disk F: "
Boot Options:
System Cache: Tried both Enabled and Disabled
Boot Speed: Tried both Turbo and Deturbo
Setup Prompt: Enabled
Hard disk Pre-delay: Disabled
Typemetric_Rate : Default
Peripheral Configuration
Configuration mode : Tried both Auto and Manual
PCI IDE Interface: Disabled
Standard IDE Interface: Disabled
Floppy interface: Enabled
Serail Port 1 Address: Disabled
Serial Port 2 Address: Disabled
Paralle Port Address: Disabled
Paralle Port Mode: Compatible
Advanced chipset configuration
ISA Bus Speed: Tried compatible and enhanced
Byte Merging: Disabled
PCI IDE Prefetch Buffers: Disabled
Video Pallette Swap: Disabled
Latency Timer (PCI Clocks) 66
Advanced power management: disabled
Plug and play configuration
Configuration mode: disabled
ISA shared memory : disabled
IRQ 3 - used by ISA card
IRQ 4 "
IRQ 5 - available
IRQ 7 Used
IRQ 9 available
IRQ 10 "
IRQ 11 "
IRQ 15 "
Hard drive HP 1686A SCSI
ATI mach64 with 2M VRAM
Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller BIOS v1.11
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EIDE or SCSI CD-ROM ?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 15:58:47 GMT
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In article <395rks$jfk@fizban.solace.mh.se> d93-mnt@jota.sm.luth.se
(Mikael.Nykvist) writes:
> Hi Netters!
>
> I'm about to buy a CD-Rom and have found that there are two drives that
> are most interesting for me.. They are:
>
> Sony ? , ? kb, 220ms, 360kb/s, SCSI-2
> Mitsumi FX300, ? kb, 250ms, 450kb/s, Enhanced IDE
>
> The two questions I have: 1. Is 2x enough?
No. Maybe if they reach 10x :-)
> 2. Does/will NextStep/Intel support
> EIDE CD-ROMs?
No. Only SCSI.
Atze
From: zamora@vnet.ibm.com (Tony Zamora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Date: 3 Nov 1994 13:57:46 GMT
Organization: Integrated Systems Solutions Corporation, Lexington, KY
Message-ID: <39aq8q$12d2@news.manassas.ibm.com>
The hard drive in my NeXTstation (non-turbo) has been making a loud
whine. This isn't a new problem, it's been like this for a couple of
years, but I've finally decided to see if there's anything I can do to
make it quieter. It's a Seagate ST1480 400MB internal hard drive, if
that makes any difference. Has anyone else had this problem? What,
if anything, can be done? I've just moved, and the computer now
resides in a corner of the family room, so it's harder to ignore the
problem now.
Thanks,
Tony
From: root@osd.glas.apc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Nov 94 13:13 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: ATI GUP 64 driver PCI/VLB/VRAM/DRAM
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Subject: Re: ATI GUP 64 driver PCI/VLB/VRAM/DRAM
In article <3985so$1g7@anshar.shadow.net>
jjfox@anshar.shadow.net writes:
> Subject: Re: ATI GUP 64 driver PCI/VLB/VRAM/DRAM
>
> root@osd.glas.apc.org wrote:
> : The Object Software Development (OSD) is going to put their
ATI
> : Ultra PRO Mach64PCI/VLB/VRAM/DRAM driver for NS/FIP 3.2
along with
> : the original Inspector on the seanet.com ftp-site. It will
> : occur today I hope :-).
>
> And I recently paid $50 for a mach64 driver :-(
>
> - Jay
>
Does it work with VLbus and change refresh rate "on the-fly"?
We gonna make an update very shortly! It will have some new
features and new modes :-)
Kindest regards
Serge
Serguei Bakhteiarov
OSD/SEANET
Moscow-Seattle
e-mail:info@osd.glas.apc.org
http://www.seanet.com
From: root@osd.glas.apc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 03 Nov 94 10:41 GMT+0300
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Pla
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Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Pla
In article <CyME6M.4Lw@freenet.carleton.ca>
ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA writes:
> Subject: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Plato ?
>
>
> Has anyone successfully installed an Adaptec 2940 with the
ATI
> Graphics Pro Turbo on an Intel Plato motherboard ? I am
assuming
> one would have to get the SCSI and Video drivers from talus.
I can't
> even get the machine to correctly come up under DOS. It just
locks
> up during boot-up. Bios versions follow:
> Motherboard: AMI 1.00.10.AX1
> Adaptec: V1.11
>
> I am using an HP SCSI Drive (HP D1686A).
>
> Any insight appreciated.
I can offer to you our free ATI GPT driver to try. It is
available from our (SEANET) ftp-site:
ftp://ftp.seanet.com/pub/next/drivers
Good luck.
Serge
Serguei Bakhteiarov
OSD/SEANET
Seattle-Moscow
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From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: ATI Mach64 driver hint (was: PRESS RELEASE: ATI Mach 64 driver FREE!)
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:39:49 GMT
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Hi,
I post this note because Serguei Bakhteiarov from OSD who
provided the free ATI Mach64 driver asked me to do it (it seems
they have problems to post news articles currently).
Please send any questions not to me but to:
info@osd.glas.apc.org
I asked Serguei about the "best" RAMDAC...
> > Maybe this is because the RAMDAC is detected dynamically
> > and I don't have the Mach64 installed?
>
>
> Right.
> The best one is the ATI68860. The RAMDAC supports all resolutions and the
highest one is 1152x896 32bit 70Hz (or 1280x1024x16bitx74Hz). We could not test
it with refresh >70Hz (case of absence of an appropriate monitor :-(
> if you will have 4Mb VRAM (its better to have VRAM instead of DRAM of couse
:-) the highest mode is 1152x896 32bit 70Hz like i said, but the board (at
least our) has a little bug: a small wierd line in the middle of the screen.
It's a fault of VRAM switching (among banks) we think....
>
One hint from me:
if you've problems installing the driver with "Open Sesame/Open As Root"
log out and install the driver by logging in as root.
Thomas
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From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Date: 3 Nov 1994 11:21:21 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
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Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: Uhhh... if the P/60 is 2x as fast as the 466, how do you get
: 2-3 for the P/90? (since that would make is 2-3 times as fast
: as a P/60, which doesn't make much sense)
It depends on the operation.
: Integer wise... of course, when you're dealing with Pentiums,
: things can change a bit depending on the code and the compiler,
: since the architecture is a bit different from the older x86
: models.
At this point, you'd still be hard-pressed to find pentium-optimized code
in commercial applications.
: >Those using the Adaptec 2940 with 3.3PR2 have complained about poor
: >performance, although this is entirely due to inferior NeXT drivers.
Correction: some of those using the 2940 have indicated poor performance.
: Well, give them some credit. The driver is still in beta, along
: with the rest of 3.3.
Agreed, but NeXT's other drivers have been less than perfect.
: What's a nice hidden bonus in 3.3 is that the #9 GXE 64 Pro driver
: will run in 8bit color. 8bit color is very quick... and not all that
: bad to look at!
What about mach64? I currently have both the Talus driver and the new OSD
driver (which has a great setup utility). I have been told repeatedly by
NeXT that a mach64 driver would be available for 3.3, although not as
part of the initial release. I'd love to take advantage of 8-bit color mode.
- Jay
From: gkj@ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Notebook working!
Date: 3 Nov 1994 16:46:37 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
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In article <39ats3$g7e@news.blkbox.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
> In article <3023@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) writes:
> > Some time ago I asked on the net whether anybody
> > could give me information about some notebooks
> > running NeXTstep, and how it was loaded into it.
> > I have also noted that more people seem to have
> > the same problems. By now I have a running
> > system, so I would like to tell about the
> > 'adventure'.
> >
..long tale deleted...
> > Jos Vermaseren
>
> OORRR....you could have purchased a Talus color notebook with NS already
> installed and ready to run, with 16-bit color and sound...and weighing
> only 2.86kg (6.3lbs). The performance of the DX-4 100Mhz is comparable to
> that of the 60Mhz Pentium, but it uses far less battery power and it stays
> a LOT cooler than the 60Mhz Pentium.
>
> Steve Sarich
> Talus Imaging
Would someone who has purchased and used a Talus T-100 care to comment on these notebooks? They
look good on paper, but I have not seen comments from actual users.
thanks
gary jacobs
Oak Ridge National Lab
From: wen@bnr.ca (Robert Wen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Connecting HP C2247 Gig Drive to Cube
Date: 3 Nov 1994 10:40:02 -0600
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39b3p2$7h9@crchh9c2.bnr.ca>
Keywords:
Help!!
I'm at my wits end. Can anyone help me connect this beast to my 040 cube?
many thanks
Bob
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From: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr (Pierre Didierjean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 16:41:51 GMT
Organization: SSII
Sender: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr
Message-ID: <39b3sf$bfm@anemone.saclay.cea.fr>
I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net.
Students, Commercials, Adminitrations, Scientifics or what ??
Is anybody knows that or have statistical results ?
What are YOU doing in life ?
I am a system administrator.
Thanks for the answers and sorry for my english .....
Bye
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From: sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (BELA SEFCSIK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/IP Install?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 14:35:04 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario
Message-ID: <39aseo$rma@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
Summary: Install Problems
Keywords: NeXT, Adaptec, CDRom
Hello.
I am new to NEXTSTEP, and in need of help.
I am trying to install version 3.1 on my machine, but got stuck at the
installation process.
I have a clone 486dx2 with 8Mb. of ram, an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card,
514 Mb. SCSI hard drive (ID: 0), Toshiba XM3401B CdRom (ID: 1).
As far as I can tell the SCSI components are set up as specified,
with the right parameters.
When the system boots up, I get the following messages:
No CD-Rom Drive found.
use: sd%d, hd%d, fd%d
root device:
Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what could be the problem?
Is it the SCSI adapter, or the CD-Rom, or something else?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy)
Subject: Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Message-ID: <1994Nov3.165557.559@plexare.com>
Sender: usenet@plexare.com
Organization: Plexare Development Corporation
References: <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:55:57 GMT
jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
> Yes, performance does matter. Especially with a system like NS, which
> accesses the disk frequently. PCI is the best, with VESA coming in
> second. I'm currently getting 2.3MB/s with an NCR 825 PCI SCSI card.
> Those using the Adaptec 2940 with 3.3PR2 have complained about poor
> performance, although this is entirely due to inferior NeXT drivers.
> ISA is an ancient, (hopefully) dying bus, and a performance bottleneck.
> Avoid it for all bandwidth-intensive I/O. VLB has seen it's day, and is
> quickly being pushed out of the picture by PCI, but there are still a
> good number of VL-bus SCSI controllers available. The EISA controllers
> that I've seen tend to be more expensive than their PCI or VLB
> counterparts.
Acutually I still have not seen a controller that outperformed the DPT
2122 EISA SCSI Cacheing RAID controller. With 7 drives attached to it it
absolutely screams. (RAID level 0) You also have to remember that the
bottleneck is not really the bus, unless you're using ISA, the drives
themselves are the limiting factor. The PCI DPT controllers should be
available with the release of 3.3. (from what I am told)
Mike Barthelemy
msb@plexare.com
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ?
Date: 03 Nov 1994 20:45:29 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Nov3204529@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
References: <39b3sf$bfm@anemone.saclay.cea.fr>
To: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr (Pierre Didierjean)
In-reply-to: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr's message of 3 Nov 1994 16:41:51 GMT
I hope you have a big disk... You're going to need it!
--
"Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!"
(ASCII for text only messages)
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Plato ?
Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:04:46 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39bmpu$jl9@news.blkbox.com>
References: <CEDMAN.94Nov2101729@freedom.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Nov2101729@freedom.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> In article <39887g$2eh@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay
Fuchs) writes:
: Has anyone successfully installed an Adaptec 2940 with the ATI
: Graphics Pro Turbo on an Intel Plato motherboard ? I am assuming
: one would have to get the SCSI and Video drivers from talus. I can't
: even get the machine to correctly come up under DOS. It just locks
: up during boot-up. Bios versions follow:
: Motherboard: AMI 1.00.10.AX1
: Adaptec: V1.11
> > I have both of these peripherals on an Intel
> > MB, with no problems - under DOS. There is
> > currently no 2940 driver for NS 3.2, although
> > there will be one in 3.3 (poor performance,
> > though).
> >
>
> Whether performance is poor is certainly a matter
> of debate. Unfortunately not here as in principle
> everybody who has the NS Adaptec 2940 driver has
> also signed a non-disclosure agreement and hence
> is not allowed to discuss its performance.
> However I think I can say that the Adaptec 2940
> reputedly delivers as high an SCSI performance as
> any NS host adapter and one higher than almost any
> other.
>
> Carl Edman
I don't know that the non-disclosure applies any longer. Our user group
was given a copy of PR2 3.3 for "show-and-tell". No one at the meeting
was required to sign anything that I recall :-) Perhaps we're limit to
"show" only...no "tell"?
Only slightly more seriously...non-disclosures only bind you with regard
to information that has not been made publicly available. NeXT, by
releasing these copies to user groups (and practically everyone else on
earth), which are open to the public, presumably for the express purpose
of showing the new OS, they have made 3.3 PR2 "public knowledge". The
flood gates are now open :-) You can relax now Carl :-))))))
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging
steve@talus.com
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need Motorola's Phone #
Date: 3 Nov 1994 10:43:46 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <39b402$39a@cobber.cord.edu>
I need a Phone Number for Motorola (maybe University Support or something?).
I specifically need to inquire about getting a Programmer's Manual
and Assembler for the 56000 DSP.
-Jon
-------------------------------
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doroin@wormhole.cord.edu (NeXTmail, and soon MIME)
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black cube '040 slot
Date: 4 Nov 1994 00:00:35 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39btj3$pju@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <399n5v$9gb@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
In article <399n5v$9gb@atlas.cs.upei.ca> student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter
Burka) writes:
> Looking at some black '040 motherboards today, I noticed an unusual
slot.
> It looks like a 72-pin SIMM socket, but it is slightly too small. Can
> anyone tell me what this is?
It's the slot for inserting additional memory for the digital signal
processor.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Date: 3 Nov 1994 23:07:57 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <39bqgd$lt3@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net> <399jrs$fc0@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <39b2m1$9uo@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <39b2m1$9uo@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>: Uhhh... if the P/60 is 2x as fast as the 466, how do you get
>: 2-3 for the P/90? (since that would make is 2-3 times as fast
>: as a P/60, which doesn't make much sense)
>
>It depends on the operation.
Well, we have P/66 machines here, and P/90 machines, and I can tell
you that under no circumstances have they ever performed equivalently. I've
never ever heard of someone claiming that a P/60 performed on a par with
a P/90, all other things being equal (I made a simliar claim, but it was
across different platforms... a different beast entirely).
Do you care to explain in more detail how the same chip, with clock speeds
that differ by 50% are going to deliver the same performance? I'd like
to hear both the theory and the practical aspect of things. We're talking
about chips, mind you.
>: Integer wise... of course, when you're dealing with Pentiums,
>: things can change a bit depending on the code and the compiler,
>: since the architecture is a bit different from the older x86
>: models.
>
>At this point, you'd still be hard-pressed to find pentium-optimized code
>in commercial applications.
The NeXT C compiler has i386 and (it seems) P optimizations. The
difference in code performance between gcc and NeXT cc generated
binaries is greater percentage wise on P machines, than on 486
machines, according to the tests that I've done. I do not expect this
to hold absolutely true for all cases because each program will have
different combinations of instructions that will perform better in the
superscalar architecture of the Pentium (ie. fewer stalls).
Note that a P-optimized compiler will try to produce code that executes
with fewer stalls. Depending on your program, you're going to get
(naturally) differing results in the pipelines, on a program per
program basis *regardless* of the compiler being used.
But that aside, it does indeed look like the NeXT compiler has some P
optimizations in it. If you use gcc, you won't get them. Hence my
statement "things can change a bit depending on the code and the
compiler."
>: Well, give them some credit. The driver is still in beta, along
>: with the rest of 3.3.
>
>Agreed, but NeXT's other drivers have been less than perfect.
Well, flame them about the other drivers then! Don't comment about
beta software: it's beta. It's by definition "less than perfect."
If it were closer to perfect, you'd be buying it rather than
testing it for them.
>What about mach64? I currently have both the Talus driver and the new OSD
>driver (which has a great setup utility). I have been told repeatedly by
>NeXT that a mach64 driver would be available for 3.3, although not as
>part of the initial release. I'd love to take advantage of 8-bit color mode.
I'd presume that Talus will be able to do 8 bit stuff once the proper
driver kit is given to them.
- db
--
In Aikido, we don't really "throw" you. We just prevent you from maintaining
your upright position.
From: gayed@eye3.psych.ucla.edu (Jim Gayed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Advice Running NEXTSTEP on an IBM ThinkPad 755C
Date: 4 Nov 1994 01:48:04 GMT
Organization: UCLA Life Sciences Computing
Message-ID: <39c3sk$lq2@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience running
NEXTSTEP on a laptop. I'm particularly interested in the IBM ThinkPad
755C. Does the Intel port of NEXTSTEP work on this machine? Will I
run into any hardware problems? If anyone has run it on a machine
like this, how fast is it compared to Motorala hardware running
NEXTSTEP 3.2? I am currently using Motorala hardware with a lot of
neat programs I would like to keep - what is the experience of users
out there compiling Motorala specific software running in NeXT or
NEXTSTEP on the new NEXSTEP for Intel os? If you have the source code
for the programs you want to port, is it relatively painless, or are
there a lot of bug fixes? Are there questions I should be asking or
aware of that I have not voiced here (there must be tons, I know).
ANY information on this dreamy scheme of mine will be helpful. Thanks
in advance for posts and replies via email.
My email address is gayed@psych.ucla.edu
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From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can NS & HP-UX coexist on the same HP 712?
Date: 4 Nov 1994 01:55:37 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <39c4ap$sb4@news.mic.ucla.edu>
This may be a fundamentally stupid question, but here I go:
I was wondering if one can have both NS and HP-UX on a HP 712 and then
choose at boot time which OS to use.
In essence I would like to use at times some HP software (like ME 10) and
at other times just use the NS for other purposes.
heikki ketola
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM installation requirements for ns-intel
Message-ID: <Cynr0I.B2@nexus1.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 20:45:54 GMT
In article <392434$8j3@panix2.panix.com> kmorton@panix.com (Ken
Morton) writes:
>
> I have a Gateway 200 p5-60 w/a Mitsumi CD-ROM (with its own
> ISA controller). Can I install NS using this drive?
No, you will need a SCSI CD-ROM.
Bye, Michael
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*** Tel.: +49-(0)241-509106
*** michael@nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail welcome; no MIME, please)
From: wlod@mcs.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need Motorola's Phone #
Date: 4 Nov 1994 03:45:04 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <39cao0$q6i@News1.mcs.com>
References: <39b402$39a@cobber.cord.edu>
In article <39b402$39a@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
writes:
>
> I need a Phone Number for Motorola (maybe University Support or something?).
> I specifically need to inquire about getting a Programmer's Manual
> and Assembler for the 56000 DSP.
>
Moto's Semiconductor Products Sector in Phoenix produces DSPs.
Might try their sales and product info number as a start,
1-800-521-6274.
--
--Steve Wlodkowski
wlod@mcs.com (NeXT mail welcomed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 + ATI GPT on Intel Plato ?
In-Reply-To: talus.com!steve's message of 3 Nov 1994 22:04:46 GMT
To: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Nov3191204@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <CEDMAN.94Nov2101729@freedom.princeton.edu> <39bmpu$jl9@news.blkbox.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 00:12:03 GMT
In article <39bmpu$jl9@news.blkbox.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes:
I don't know that the non-disclosure applies any longer. Our user group
was given a copy of PR2 3.3 for "show-and-tell". No one at the meeting
was required to sign anything that I recall :-) Perhaps we're limit to
"show" only...no "tell"?
OK, I'm glad to hear that. :)
In that case let me point out that I've had much better results with a
very similar system (NS3.3pr2, Intel motherboard, 32 MByte, Adaptec
2940, Seagate Barracuda 2 GByte with write cache enabled). For large
files (i.e. much larger than cache) iozone 2.01 reports write speeds
of 2.1 MByte/second and read speeds of 2.5 MByte/second. That is not
outstanding, but pretty respectable.
Also as has been pointed out, we may very well see further performance
improvements in the final release of 3.3 which may make use of Fast
SCSI and command queuing in contrast to the current version.
Carl Edman
From: bdhp8uc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Andrew Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT floppy drives for sale
Date: 4 Nov 1994 07:31:36 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Message-ID: <39co0o$sup@news.ecn.bgu.edu>
Have hundreds...make offers...first come....first serve
Andrew Jackson
(312) 221-9205 voice
a-jackson2@bgu.edu internet
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 4 Nov 1994 09:34:13 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39cv6l$2a0h@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <397s8e$ib1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <3989cv$1gdh@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3989cv$1gdh@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>, wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>The one Darcy proposed from hasc.ca didn't work for me - the write cache
>still remains off.
I have to correct myself: it works now for the IBM 0662 :-),
but still doesn't for the DEC DSP 3053L :-(
The performance now is OK for the IBM: DrivePerformance 1.4 for write
and 1.8 for read operations.
--
// Markus Wenzel // 1st Institute of Physics //
// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
// ...have a look at http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html //
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Pentium Optimization (Was Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP)
Message-ID: <bchin.783909616@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <397l36$r6b@core.symnet.net> <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net> <399jrs$fc0@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <39b2m1$9uo@anshar.shadow.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 00:40:16 GMT
> At this point, you'd still be hard-pressed to find pentium-optimized code
> in commercial applications.
NEXTSTEP Developer Docs, Development Tools, Chapter 11:
-fschedule-insns
If supported for the target machine, attempt to reorder instructions
to eliminate execution stalls due to required data being unavailable.
This helps machines that have slow floating point or memory load
instructions by allowing other instructions to be issued until the
result of the load or floating point instruction is required.
-fschedule-insns2
Similar to -fschedule-insns, but requests an additional pass of
instruction scheduling after register allocation has been done.
This is especially useful on machines with a relatively small
number of registers and where memory load instructions take more
than one cycle.
Any NEXTSTEP application compiled with -fschedule-insns2 is
"Pentium optimized". It helps Pentiums more than 486s. According
to the release notes and other sources, NeXT did not add in *all*
the possible Pentium optimizations since some of them hurt 486
performance. Interestingly enough, this flag is also active on the
HP version... I don't know what it does there though.
So the answer is, while there are few DOS/Windows apps that are even
optimized for the 386, it is quite possible that many NEXTSTEP
apps are Pentium optimized. The speed gain should be roughly 15%
on Pentiums, probably a little less than half that on a 486.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Message-ID: <bchin.783876182@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <39aq8q$12d2@news.manassas.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:23:02 GMT
zamora@vnet.ibm.com (Tony Zamora) writes:
>The hard drive in my NeXTstation (non-turbo) has been making a loud
>whine. This isn't a new problem, it's been like this for a couple of
>years, but I've finally decided to see if there's anything I can do to
>make it quieter. It's a Seagate ST1480 400MB internal hard drive, if
>that makes any difference. Has anyone else had this problem? What,
>if anything, can be done?
Yeah... pretty much every Seagate 400mb that shipped with NeXT machines
I've seen are now whining. The drive is sealed and any work on it
has to be done in a "clean room", so your only option is to replace it.
500mb SCSI hard drives are what, just under $300 now. A 1 gigabyte
Microplis 4110 is ~$550.
I won't buy another Seagate if I can avoid it... Anything short
of a Barracuda I can find nice alternatives too. It appears that
soon, DEC will have competition for the Barracuda and there would
be no reason to buy Seagate.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Optical or DAT drive for backup
Message-ID: <CyotvF.CI@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <398234$apf@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 10:45:14 GMT
In article <398234$apf@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM> ingramm@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Michael
Ingram) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to make a decision on whether to purchase a Magnetic Optical or a
> DAT drive for backup. Any reason why you would purchase one of the drives and
> not the other I would very much like to know.
>
> If you have any suggestion/s on any drive/s in particular I need the following
> information:
Why not get a SyQuest3270?
It's a magnetical (winchester) drive, ~220MB formatted, so you can easily mount the media,
basically like a large large floppy. The drive is a lot less expensive than MOs, at least here in
Germany.
Prices for the media are a bit higher than MO-media though.
Drive : 670DM,
cartridge : 110DM.
I have one which I consider quiet & fast. Not a good choice if you intend to lots of backups - the
media price is way way higher than on tape cartridges.
But the benefit of simply mounting another filesystem to use is cool.
The choice is yours, Juergen
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== What time do we live in when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can NS & HP-UX coexist on the same HP 712?
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 08:56:56 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UiiXqcu00iV841__s1@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <39c4ap$sb4@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 4-Nov-94 Can NS & HP-UX
coexist on t.. by Heikki Ketola@agsm.ucla.
> This may be a fundamentally stupid question, but here I go:
> I was wondering if one can have both NS and HP-UX on a HP 712 and then
> choose at boot time which OS to use.
I'm dual-booting an HP 715/50 with NS and HP/UX now. Just watch
out...NS doesn't recognize the HP/UX filesystem and will ask you if you
want to initialize the HP/UX drive when you first log in.
NeXT, the possibilities for this causing major havok are boundless.
NEXTSTEP/HP should be able to access or at least recognize the standard
HP/UX filesystem.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Optimization (Was Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP)
Message-ID: <3025@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
Date: 4 Nov 94 13:39:42 GMT
References: <397l36$r6b@core.symnet.net> <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net> <bchin.783909616@news.andi.org>
Organization: Nikhef-H, Amsterdam (the Netherlands).
In article <bchin.783909616@news.andi.org>, bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
%
% > At this point, you'd still be hard-pressed to find pentium-optimized code
% > in commercial applications.
%
% Any NEXTSTEP application compiled with -fschedule-insns2 is
% "Pentium optimized". It helps Pentiums more than 486s. According
% to the release notes and other sources, NeXT did not add in *all*
% the possible Pentium optimizations since some of them hurt 486
% performance. Interestingly enough, this flag is also active on the
% HP version... I don't know what it does there though.
I tried this. The original compilation used
cc -DNEXT -DPRIVE -fomit-frame-pointer -O -c $<
and the modified one was
cc -DNEXT -DPRIVE -fomit-frame-pointer -fschedule-insin2 -O -c $<
Unfortunately the second compilation gave code that was 4% slower
on my pentium.
Jos Vermaseren
P.S. The program uses only integers. No floating point numbers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bem@oce.nl (Bert Bemelen)
Subject: Problem installing NeXTSTEP on Compaq
Message-ID: <CyqzqF.yC@oce.nl>
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 14:47:03 GMT
Hi NextNetters,
Maybe you NeXTSTEP experts can help me with this one:
I Can't install NeXSTEP v3.2 on my SCSI-harddisk.
Any hints are very welcome.
Environment:
Compaq Prolinea 4/50 (ISA)
Adaptec 1542C (with default NeXTSTEP settings)
SCSI Disk Seagate st3655N (520Mb), SCSI-ID: 0
SCSI CD-ROM Sony, SCSI-ID: 1
(Also tried SCSI CD-ROM Nec)
Disabled IDE-controller
Problem:
After booting up from flop and CD NeXTSTEP-installation
asks me where to put the NeXTSTEP OS:
Available disks:
1. SCSI Disk at target 0 (SEAGATE ST3655N) - 520 Mb
Type the number for disk on which you want to install
NEXTSTEP:
-> 1
fdisk: bogus bios info
some bios can't handle non-sequential targets
fdisk: bogus bios info
some bios can't handle non-sequential targets
/etc/rc.cdrom.i386: test: argument expected
CD-ROM boot procedure complete.
Please wait until it's safe to turn off the computer
Killing all processes
continuing
It's safe to turn off the computer
ps. Also tried the Adaptec SCSI driver patch.
Also tried a HP 405 Mb harddisk.
Neither did work.
regards,
Bert Bemelen
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/IP Install?
Date: 4 Nov 1994 15:49:10 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <39dl5m$mvm@news.onramp.net>
References: <39aseo$rma@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca>
In article <39aseo$rma@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (BELA
SEFCSIK) writes:
> I have a clone 486dx2 with 8Mb. of ram, an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card,
> 514 Mb. SCSI hard drive (ID: 0), Toshiba XM3401B CdRom (ID: 1).
> Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what could be the
problem?
> Is it the SCSI adapter, or the CD-Rom, or something else?
Try setting the CD-ROM to ID2 - I think the Adaptec driver is fishy that
way...
Luck!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
(713) 531-7959
From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice Running NEXTSTEP on an IBM ThinkPad 755C
Date: 4 Nov 1994 16:46:08 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39dogg$s47@news.blkbox.com>
References: <39c3sk$lq2@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
In article <39c3sk$lq2@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
gayed@eye3.psych.ucla.edu (Jim Gayed) writes:
> I was wondering if anyone out there has had any
> experience running NEXTSTEP on a laptop. I'm
> particularly interested in the IBM ThinkPad 755C.
> Does the Intel port of NEXTSTEP work on this
> machine? Will I run into any hardware problems?
The ThinkPad will not run NEXTSTEP. You can pick up an Versa that
will run NS in grayscale or a Talus notebook which will give you
color. There may be some others out there that you can get NEXTSTEP
running on, in grayscale, but it's a real crapshoot and not a job for
the inexperienced.
> If anyone has run it on a machine like this, how
> fast is it compared to Motorala hardware running
> NEXTSTEP 3.2? I am currently using Motorala
> hardware with a lot of neat programs I would like
> to keep - what is the experience of users out
> there compiling Motorala specific software
> running in NeXT or NEXTSTEP on the new NEXSTEP
> for Intel os? If you have the source code for the
> programs you want to port, is it relatively
> painless, or are there a lot of bug fixes? Are
> there questions I should be asking or aware of
> that I have not voiced here (there must be tons,
> I know). ANY information on this dreamy scheme of
> mine will be helpful. Thanks in advance for
> posts and replies via email.
>
> My email address is gayed@psych.ucla.edu
You'll find that most intel machines that are DX-4 or above will
outperform your Motorola hardware (though sometimes not to
elegantly).
You'll have to update your software to Intel versions and you can't
do that yourself. If you have source, porting is rather painless in
most cases.
Steve Sarich
steve@talus.com
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From: evol@heym.uni-koblenz.de (Randolf Werner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI VGA Adapter, NeXTStep 3.3, SoftPC Fullscreen modus
Date: 4 Nov 1994 19:20:54 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / CC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39e1im$fgf@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
Hello,
we are going to buy a Pentium box for NeXTStep. So far this is what we
plain to buy:
Pentium 90 Mhz Intel Plato, 32 MB, Adaptec 2940, 1 GB SCSI, Intel EtherExpress,
Sony 17 se Monitor
Unfortunatley I am not sure which is the best vga adapter. It should be
PCI bus, supported by NextStep 3.3 and run SoftPC in Fullscreen modus. We
have to buy the machine before 3.3 will be released. Any information
about vga adapters supporting or not supporting SoftPC Fullscreen modus
under 3.2 are also welcome.
Thanks in advance
Randolf Werner
From: c4234@rphs8 (Stefan Schlecht t2069)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Vectra XU:only 64 MB
Date: 4 Nov 1994 21:06:34 GMT
Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany
Message-ID: <39e7orINN7ib@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
Hello net,
we have a HP Vectra XU 5/90C and we will install 128 MB RAM.
The Problem: He does only recognize 64 MB with NSfIP. We
have the same problem under Windows NT.
What is wrong there?
Stephan
---
stefan.schlecht@rphs1.physik.uni-regensburg.de
stephan@OneVision.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO)
Subject: Configuration
Message-ID: <CyrF1t.w1@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T NSD, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 20:17:49 GMT
Hi,
I am interested in putting together an Intel-based system
for running NS. Would like to know what a decent a configuration
should have? And, here is what I am thinking about:
90 Mhz Pentium-based PC:
------------------------
There are so many of them. Which ones are known to work best
with NS? I did not see any 90 Mhz listed in the compatibility
guide.
1GB Hard drive:
---------------
With all the different manufacturers and standards, which one?
If SCSI, which one - SCSI 2, SCSI 3? Is there something called
FAST SCSI? Whose drivers?
Is more than one hard drive necessary?
CD ROM:
-------
SCSI only, correct? But double speed, triple speed, quadraple?
Graphics Card + Driver: ?????
-----------------------
Sound Card + driver: ?????
--------------------
Monitor: size, frequency range
--------
I would appreciate any advice. And if you can put some prices
on your suggested equipment, its even better.
Thanks in advance.
rao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <CyrpHu.2FB@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 00:03:29 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Hi,
I would like to use my SyQuest SQ3270S, i.e. the cartridges,
for exchanging data. Sounds natural but what happens if
different SCSI controllers in the different computers are
using different heads/sectors translation schemes (e.g.
Adaptec controllers make every SCSI disk to appear to have
64 heads and 32 sectors, but not all SCSI controllers
do the same) and this information is stored in any way in
the respective partition when it's formatted?
Even DOS stores the number of heads
and sectors in the "boot" sector of the respective
partition. Does this cause any problems when using the
cartridges in different computers?
What about the BSD file system of NeXTSTEP? Is exchanging
cartridges possible?
What about the Linux file system?
Thanks in advance,
Thomas
--
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PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171
EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf
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From: Rob Parker <parker@mote.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next monitor with a powermac 7100
Date: 4 Nov 1994 22:42:38 GMT
Organization: Univ. of California
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39edcu$nkc@agate.berkeley.edu>
I have a Next monitor that I would like to use with a Powermac 7100.
How much trouble is involved with this? Is there a simple cable
available?
Obviously I'm a beginner with this, so suggest an FAQ if an appropriate
one exists.
Rob
parker@mote.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 01:29:02 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Hi,
I would like to use my SyQuest SQ3270S, i.e. the cartridges,
for exchanging data. Sounds natural but what happens if
different SCSI controllers in the different computers are
using different heads/sectors translation schemes (e.g.
Adaptec controllers make every SCSI disk to appear to have
64 heads and 32 sectors, but not all SCSI controllers
do the same) and this information is stored in any way in
the respective partition when it's formatted?
Even DOS stores the number of heads
and sectors in the "boot" sector of the respective
partition. Does this cause any problems when using the
cartridges in different computers?
What about the BSD file system of NeXTSTEP? Is exchanging
cartridges possible?
What about the Linux file system?
Thanks in advance,
Thomas
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PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171
EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:/~wolf
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From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: ATI Turbo-VLB supported?
Message-ID: <Cyrs3D.6L7@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 00:59:37 GMT
The new mach 64 based ATI Turbo graphics' board comes in a VLB format, as
well as PCI. Does the PD driver support the VL bus version? If so, then
what kind of NXBench mark could one expect as compared to the GUP? Both
at 1024x768 and 16 bit colour. Would Solitaire be snappy is another way
of measuring whether or not upgrading would be worth it. I am not ready to
move to a P90/PCI so that option is out.
--
Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats)
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Optimization (Was Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP)
Date: 5 Nov 1994 01:31:11 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <39en8v$r4r@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net> <bchin.783909616@news.andi.org> <3025@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>
In article <3025@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren) writes:
>In article <bchin.783909616@news.andi.org>, bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>%
>% > At this point, you'd still be hard-pressed to find pentium-optimized code
>% > in commercial applications.
>%
>% Any NEXTSTEP application compiled with -fschedule-insns2 is
>% "Pentium optimized". It helps Pentiums more than 486s. According
> cc -DNEXT -DPRIVE -fomit-frame-pointer -fschedule-insin2 -O -c $<
>Unfortunately the second compilation gave code that was 4% slower
>on my pentium.
Hey... and people didn't believe me when I said results will vary on
the code and the compiler ;-)?
FYI: try using -O4. It invokes almost all optimizations, including
instruction scheduling. The code *will* run faster than -O.
Also, FYI: NeXT cc-2.5.8 no longer supports the -fschedule-insns*
switches on Intel hardware. Nor does it support -arch i586,
though it supports -arch i486 and i386.
So, I'd suggest just doing this "cc -DPRIVE -O4" and be happy
(you can use "NeXT" rather than "NEXT" as the conditional
since that's defined automatically)...
- darcy
--
In Aikido, we don't really "throw" you. We just prevent you from maintaining
your upright position.
From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Date: 5 Nov 1994 01:52:39 GMT
Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net)
Message-ID: <39eoh7$d46@core.symnet.net>
References: <bchin.783876182@news.andi.org>
Bill Chin writes
> zamora@vnet.ibm.com (Tony Zamora) writes:
> I won't buy another Seagate if I can avoid it...
You might want to try a Fujitsu.
My gig Fujitsu is quiet and hasn't given me any problems.
Steve
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cyrix cpu's
Date: 5 Nov 1994 03:42:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <39ev02$ppl@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Sorry for plaging these newsgroups with so many questions, but I have
yet another one (thank you to all of those who answered) :)
Are cyrix cpus (specifically the 486dx2 66)
any good? For NS?
thanks again
-cft
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: Clock Doubling Black hardware
Message-ID: <Cyqwu7.51M@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <395u1l$f0s@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 13:44:30 GMT
In article <395u1l$f0s@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> In article <3958lf$jgv@diablo.ppp.de> Atze (Alexander Spohr) writes:
> > In article <bchin.783553439@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
> Chin)
> > writes:
> > > tim@apple.com (Tim Olson) writes:
> > > >There is no such thing as a "clock-doubled" 68040, LC or not. Apple
> is
> > > >advertising some '040-based machines as "dual clocked", but they are
> no
> > > >different from stock '040 processors.
> > > Then, aren't the ads/brochures misleading?
> >
> > As far as I remember '040 processors are allways "clock-doubled"
> internaly. You
> > cannot buy an 68040/2 (as i486DX2) because there was never a 68040/1
> version.
> >
> How does all of this relate to Sam Goldberger's 50 MHz "clock-doubled"
> 68040 upgrade?
Indeed, what became of that ? There were some benchmarks posted, a promise of
pricing info and a www page to follow and then nada unless I missed something.
Anybody (like Sam, perhaps) want to say what's up with this ?
--
-Michael
mgb@thoth.stetson.edu
--
-Michael
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI VGA Adapter, NeXTStep 3.3, SoftPC Fullscreen modus
Date: 5 Nov 1994 01:45:58 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39eo4m$s5c@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <39e1im$fgf@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
In article <39e1im$fgf@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> evol@heym.uni-koblenz.de (Randolf Werner) writes:
>Hello,
>Unfortunatley I am not sure which is the best vga adapter. It should be
>PCI bus, supported by NextStep 3.3 and run SoftPC in Fullscreen modus. We
>have to buy the machine before 3.3 will be released. Any information
>about vga adapters supporting or not supporting SoftPC Fullscreen modus
>under 3.2 are also welcome.
#9 GXE 64 Pro w/ 4M VRAM. Fastest under NEXTSTEP, and has extra cool
display modes under 3.3. You can even go cheap and get 2M VRAM
and still run at 1600x1200 in 8bit color mode if you want, at
68Hz. Or 1280x1024 @ 76Hz. (Under 3.3 of course... I'm using
mine under 3.2).
I can't see why anyone would want a different card.
- db
--
In Aikido, we don't really "throw" you. We just prevent you from maintaining
your upright position.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
From: aturner@netcom.com (Aaron Turner)
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Message-ID: <aturnerCys9Hr.GG6@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <CyrpHu.2FB@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 07:15:27 GMT
In article <CyrpHu.2FB@prz.tu-berlin.de>,
Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I would like to use my SyQuest SQ3270S, i.e. the cartridges,
>for exchanging data. Sounds natural but what happens if
>different SCSI controllers in the different computers are
>using different heads/sectors translation schemes (e.g.
>Adaptec controllers make every SCSI disk to appear to have
>64 heads and 32 sectors, but not all SCSI controllers
>do the same) and this information is stored in any way in
>the respective partition when it's formatted?
The potential problems depends on the SCSI cards in use, translation
tables, and method of access. For example:
I've formated a SyQuest 88 cart using a Seagate 8bit adapter that formats
the cart to a greater capacity than the Adaptec 1542 will. However the
Adaptec during normal DOS read\writes won't have any problem. But if I use
a prgm called "DUP" that uses SCSI BIOS calls to do a _exact_copy_ of a
cart that was formated on the Seagate, the Adaptec won't copy about the
last 300K. As I understand it, if the cartridge can be read\written to,
then you don't have a problem. If the cartridge looks like crap, then it
wont work. There is a way to get by this- you write a device driver that
does the translation for you. If you use you SyQuest drive under DOS,
that's half of the job of SQDRIVER.SYS. If you have the know-how I can
probably get the info to program the driver from SyQuest- I work there.
>
>Even DOS stores the number of heads
>and sectors in the "boot" sector of the respective
>partition. Does this cause any problems when using the
>cartridges in different computers?
>
>What about the BSD file system of NeXTSTEP? Is exchanging
>cartridges possible?
Dunno. Never tried it, nor have the capacity to.
>
>What about the Linux file system?
I've swapped carts in my system, I just umount, then mount the new cart.
Works great- though I doubt that it would work well for the root.
Aaron Turner, MIS *****************************************************
SyQuest Technology * --Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that *
aka: aturner@netcom.com * which is adequately explained by stupidity. *
sophmore@Cal.St.Univ.Hayward *******************************************
* Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and do *
Finger for AOL & CI$ * not neccessarily reflect those of my employer. *
email addresses & PGP *****************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
From: aturner@netcom.com (Aaron Turner)
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Message-ID: <aturnerCysALB.Huw@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <CyrpHu.2FB@prz.tu-berlin.de> <aturnerCys9Hr.GG6@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 07:39:11 GMT
Oops, forgot some info- DUP does a block-by-block copy. Thats why it
wont copy the last few blocks, b/c the Adaptec BIOS doesn't see them.
This is as I understand it from my friends in tec. supp. If you would
like some more info on this subject, you could call SyQuest Technical
Support at 1-800-245-CART (not sure if that's our tec. supp. number)
or (510) 226-4000
or 4083 (Me, Mon. & Fri.)
or 4141 (Gary, one of our Techies. Tell'm Aaron sent you.)
BBS at (510) 656-0473
In article <aturnerCys9Hr.GG6@netcom.com>,
Aaron Turner <aturner@netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <CyrpHu.2FB@prz.tu-berlin.de>,
>Thomas Wolfram <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>I would like to use my SyQuest SQ3270S, i.e. the cartridges,
>>for exchanging data. Sounds natural but what happens if
>>different SCSI controllers in the different computers are
>>using different heads/sectors translation schemes (e.g.
>>Adaptec controllers make every SCSI disk to appear to have
>>64 heads and 32 sectors, but not all SCSI controllers
>>do the same) and this information is stored in any way in
>>the respective partition when it's formatted?
>
>The potential problems depends on the SCSI cards in use, translation
>tables, and method of access. For example:
>
>I've formated a SyQuest 88 cart using a Seagate 8bit adapter that formats
>the cart to a greater capacity than the Adaptec 1542 will. However the
>Adaptec during normal DOS read\writes won't have any problem. But if I use
>a prgm called "DUP" that uses SCSI BIOS calls to do a _exact_copy_ of a
>cart that was formated on the Seagate, the Adaptec won't copy about the
>last 300K. As I understand it, if the cartridge can be read\written to,
>then you don't have a problem. If the cartridge looks like crap, then it
>wont work. There is a way to get by this- you write a device driver that
>does the translation for you. If you use you SyQuest drive under DOS,
>that's half of the job of SQDRIVER.SYS. If you have the know-how I can
>probably get the info to program the driver from SyQuest- I work there.
I'm not sure how Linux access SCSI drives that are supported by BIOS, but
if I had to guess, it should be OK. Pretty much, if you can read\write
the cart, all should be OK. (Yes, this may seem obvious, but you
shouldn't expect any corruption if it can mount the cart, and you can see
the file tree.)
>
>>
>>Even DOS stores the number of heads
>>and sectors in the "boot" sector of the respective
>>partition. Does this cause any problems when using the
>>cartridges in different computers?
Not for DOS. Linux, I dunno, never taken my 270 to another machince
running Linux.
>>
>>What about the BSD file system of NeXTSTEP? Is exchanging
>>cartridges possible?
>
>Dunno. Never tried it, nor have the capacity to.
>
>>
>>What about the Linux file system?
>
>I've swapped carts in my system, I just umount, then mount the new cart.
>Works great- though I doubt that it would work well for the root.
>
>
Aaron Turner, MIS *****************************************************
SyQuest Technology * --Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that *
aka: aturner@netcom.com * which is adequately explained by stupidity. *
sophmore@Cal.St.Univ.Hayward *******************************************
* Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own and do *
Finger for AOL & CI$ * not neccessarily reflect those of my employer. *
email addresses & PGP *****************************************************
From: bdhp8uc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Andrew Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT floppy drives for sale
Date: 5 Nov 1994 08:03:59 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Message-ID: <39fe9f$9eh@news.ecn.bgu.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.programmer ]
[ Author was Andrew Jackson ]
[ Posted on 4 Nov 1994 07:45:54 GMT ]
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ]
[ Author was Andrew Jackson ]
[ Posted on 4 Nov 1994 07:31:36 GMT ]
Have hundreds...make offers...first come....first serve
Andrew Jackson
(312) 221-9205 voice
a-jackson2@bgu.edu internet
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM
Date: 5 Nov 1994 06:07:07 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
We have an 040 cube whose original hard disk has died, and have bought a new
3rd party disk to replace it. The disk comes preformatted, so I was ready to
do the install from scratch by booting from the 3.2 CDROM, but I cannot get it
to work. I am not having the problem described in the notes (where it hangs
waiting for the CDROM drive to come ready), instead I get a "no SCSI disk"
error. I didnt check to see if the ROM version is the early or the late
version -- I suspect the former, so I tried using the technique described in
the notes, using the upgrade-prep floppy, but...
This machine has no floppy drive, but has a OD drive. So, I installed the file
/usr/standalone/boot.cdrom onto an optical disk using "disk -B ...", and
attempting to boot from that file using "bod(0,0,0)sdmach rootdev=od0", and it
said "searching for CDROMs", and I could see it reading the CDROM (could hear
it and see the lights), but then it quit with an exception #4.
Is there some way to get this to work without having to find a SCSI external
floppy drive (I know noone who has one)? Is there another step I may be
missing, or does this information provide any clues as to what may be wrong?
Please respond via email! Thank you in advance!
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: root@osd.glas.apc.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 04 Nov 94 21:53 GMT+0300
Subject: ATI Mach64 GPT driver - new versio
Message-ID: <1994Nov4.185344.1524@osd.glas.ap>
Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@glas.apc.org>
Subject: ATI Mach64 GPT driver - new version.. still free :-)
We are glad to point to our new version of the driver for the
NS 3.2
We fixed found bugs.
an dded new modes:
1120x832 60Hz, 66Hz, 72Hz ( 8Bpp/16Bpp/32Bpp );
We did these modes, because the standard one:
1152x896 32Bpp 70Mhz
has a wierd small line in the middle of the screen (because of
VRAM banks switching, so the max refresh rate for the mode was
only 60Hz, which works correctly, but nobody love it)
Driver is available from
ftp://ftp.seanet.com:pub/next/drivers/ATIGraphicsProTurbo.pkg.c
ompressed
ftp://ftp.seanet.com:pub/next/drivers/ATIGraphicsProTurbo.ReadM
e.rtf
Enjoy,
Serge
----------------------------
Serguei Bakhteiarov
OSD/SEANET
Moscow-Seattle
e-mail: info@osd.glas.apc.org
http://www.seanet.com
From: fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 5 Nov 1994 16:30:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu>
References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
I was having a similar problem with a NextStation (the black pizza box...)
It turn out to be a problem with the termination. Although the hard drive
was already terminated, I needed to put another scsi terminator on the back
scsi port for the stupid thing to recognize the hard drive.
I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution to this,
but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let me know
if you find a better solution than this.
-Frank
Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote:
: We have an 040 cube whose original hard disk has died, and have bought a new
: 3rd party disk to replace it. The disk comes preformatted, so I was ready to
: do the install from scratch by booting from the 3.2 CDROM, but I cannot get it
: to work. I am not having the problem described in the notes (where it hangs
: waiting for the CDROM drive to come ready), instead I get a "no SCSI disk"
: error. I didnt check to see if the ROM version is the early or the late
: version -- I suspect the former, so I tried using the technique described in
: the notes, using the upgrade-prep floppy, but...
: This machine has no floppy drive, but has a OD drive. So, I installed the file
: /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom onto an optical disk using "disk -B ...", and
: attempting to boot from that file using "bod(0,0,0)sdmach rootdev=od0", and it
: said "searching for CDROMs", and I could see it reading the CDROM (could hear
: it and see the lights), but then it quit with an exception #4.
: Is there some way to get this to work without having to find a SCSI external
: floppy drive (I know noone who has one)? Is there another step I may be
: missing, or does this information provide any clues as to what may be wrong?
: Please respond via email! Thank you in advance!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.386bsd.questions
From: katzlbt@necs (Thomas Katzlberger)
Subject: Re: Intel Help (for a unix on intel newbie)
Message-ID: <1994Nov5.181724.16258@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: Vanderbilt University
References: <39443i$5ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 18:17:24 GMT
Christopher Flash Tarnas (cft@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: Here are a few questions, if anyone could answer these for me,
: I would be very grateful (please email, I don't have time to read
: all of the newsgroups). Alternately if one could tell me the
: location of a FAQ that answers these questions I would be grateful too.
: I'm looking into getting a 486dx2 66 to run NeXT, BSD, and
: (unless I can help it) windoze. I was wondering what I should look
: for when purchasing a system/parts. (what's compatable, whats not)
: I'm a student so my budget is not large (at all :). I'm just
: looking now, waiting for my paychecks and trying to forget about
: university bills.
: ...
: I know that I would need a SCSI controller/drive. Would the scsi on
: sound blaster work? (slow, but cheap) Or should I get a dedicated
: card? What drives have problems with NS or BSD? Are segates ok,
: how about quantum?
I don't understand the Question NeXT OR BSD !
The NeXT Operating system includes BSD UNXIX in the MACH kernel,
or as kernel sever in the MACH 3.0 kernel (NS3.3 (?)) and DOS, swodniW
can be alternativeley booted at startup.
Check NeXT's hardware compatibility guide.
--
Thomas Katzlberger
katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: katzlbt@necs (Thomas Katzlberger)
Subject: Re: memory upgrade on black hardware
Message-ID: <1994Nov5.182827.16504@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: Vanderbilt University
References: <3813s2$s9g@news.nd.edu> <Ry32Tu+.guzzibill@delphi.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 18:28:27 GMT
William -Bill Scollard (guzzibill@delphi.com) wrote:
: Pathikrit Bandyopadhyay <patb@exafs1.phys.nd.edu> writes:
:
: >
: >Some of them claim that the SIMMS have to be installed
: >in pairs, so in order to get 16 megs all I have to do
: >is add 2 4 meggers @$140/each. Other sales droids told
: >me that the SIMMS have to be installed in quads, so if
: >I want 16 megs I have to install FOUR 4 meggers at twice
: >the price and throw the current SIMMS away.
: >
:
: I believe Droid #1 was correct about the PAIRS, and Droid #2 was
: mistaken about the quads. I currently have 16 meg as
: 8-8
: X-X
: and would really like to elevate to
: 8-8
: 16-16
:
: Have been assured this is possible. (ref Blake Stone @DKW.COM)
My system is currenty running with 4x 1MB no parity
and 4x 4MB parity SIMMs. I do not think that every system takes
the SIMMs in pairs and suggest upgrading in 4 piece chunks.
However there is a way to display MEM config in the ROM-monitor
which also may list the banks like 1-3 4MB and 4-7 16MB or so
(don't remember everything exactly). This hints that exchange is
required in 4 piece chunks.
--
Thomas Katzlberger
katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
From: brook@bga.com (brook Heimbaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Advice on NextStep/Intel vs. PowerPC - Help
Date: 5 Nov 1994 18:33:46 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
Message-ID: <39gj6a$c5g@giga.bga.com>
I've always wanted to get NextStep. When I replaced my Mac SE a few years ago,
I got a 486 for this reason. Unfortunately, when NextStep was finaly released
for intel, the hardware requirements were more than I could afford.
Now I'm considering finally doing it, but it's gonna cost nearly $2000 for
another 16M of RAM, a new 1G+ drive & SCSI adapter and the software itself.
I have 2 questions:
1) For a little more I can replace my aging 486 w/ a new PowerPC system. If I
do this, is NeXT ever likely to release NextStep for PowerPC?
2) Whatever system it's installed on, is it possible to maintain 2 separate
OS's on separate boot partitions (NeXT & OS2/Win on 468 or NeXT & Mac on
PowerPC)?
Recommendation?
-----------------------|-------------------------|---------------------------
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2214 Tallow Ct. |-------------------------|---------------------------
Austin, TX 78744-3257 | CServe: !Canceled! | Fax/Data: (512) 440-1032
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM
Date: 5 Nov 1994 19:02:59 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <39gkt3$2uh@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu>
I solved this problem in a way that might interest others who have early cubes
with the early ROM versions which do not (seem to) allow booting directly from
the CDROM.
First the problem was that I could not do "b sd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1"
because these early machines do not probe for the CD-ROM prior to the boot
sequence, so I got "no SCSI disk" in response. I could not boot from the
optical disk, even though I installed the /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom file on
it using disk -B (adapting the instructions for doing the same on a floppy
disk). I do not know why this did not work.
What I was able to do was skip the boot from the special boot block altogether
by using a boot trick: I did "bsd -a". That does two things:
1) The -a tells it to prompt for the root device.
2) The fact that I gave it no arguments made it go out and probe for all scsi
devices, which meant it found the CD-ROM. This is the obscure detail.
When it fails on sd0, I gave it sd(1,0,0)sdmach as the boot block. It then
booted from the CD-ROM, and asked me for the root device, at which point I
gave it sd1. Away we went.
So the summary is: you can install from scratch onto a hard disk from CD-ROM
without need of an additional floppy or optical boot block by doing what I
described above. Hope it helps somebody else!
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: Intel Help (for a unix on intel newbie)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 14:28:11 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <kiixn=u00iVE02aVtX@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Nov5.181724.16258@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-Nov-94 Re: Intel Help
(for a unix .. by Thomas Katzlberger@necs
> I don't understand the Question NeXT OR BSD !
> The NeXT Operating system includes BSD UNXIX in the MACH kernel,
> or as kernel sever in the MACH 3.0 kernel (NS3.3 (?)) and DOS, swodniW
> can be alternativeley booted at startup.
More precisely, NEXTSTEP is an environment built over a Mach 2.5 kernel
(or perhaps one could consider it a Mach 2.0 kernel + some Mach 2.5
extentions), which uses the Berkeley 4.3 FFS (Fast File System) as the
local UFS.
There is a fair analogy between NEXTSTEP/Mach and Solaris/SunOS.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Connecting a SONY SMO-F521-00 to a black NeXT...
Date: 31 Oct 1994 20:34:37 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <393kct$8k@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <3911hp$5og@machthenext.dannug.dk>
Hi Netters
Does anyone of you have any experience with the magnectic optical disk SMO-F521
from SONY, on black hardware???
When I connect it, it seems fine at first, reports the drive when starting up,
and no errors reported when I login.... but the moment I insert a disk into the
drive, I get all kinds of SCSI errors, and eventually it just ejects the disk,
without giving me a chance to format it.....
Finally I got as far as to get the disk lowformatted using single-user mode and
the DISK command /F, but when I try to initialize it, it still won t do it, it
warns me off that I must reduce cylinder group size, and when I try that it
still won t format....
Is this drive totally incompatible with NeXTStep (that would be a first,
then!)??? Do I need a special disktab for it to work, and does anyone have a
disktab for this drive???
If anyone have any hardware specs on this drive, I suer would like to take a
look at them, maybe then I can decide the right parameters...
Thanks for any info you can provide.
Best regards
Michael
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From: rissac@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Install NS on Compaq 486-66
Date: 5 Nov 1994 20:22:39 GMT
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <39gpif$lr4@news.panix.com>
I have a Compaq 486DX2-66 that I would like to install NeXTStep 3.2 for
the Intel Processor on. My cuurent confiuration is as follows:
486DX2-66 MHz Intel Processor
16Mb RAM
1 3.5" Floppy Drive
Adaptec 1540 SCSI-2 Controller (same as 1542)
2.Gb SCSI-2 Seagate ST-12550 Hard Drive
NEC 3xp SCSI-2 CD-ROM
1Mb VRAM on motherboard using Compaq QVision (ET-4000 chipset)
Media Vision Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound Card
No matter what I do I recieve an error saying to specify the boot up device.
Please send me e-mail on how I can set this up or post reply here.
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From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: Intel Help (for a unix on intel newbie)
Date: 5 Nov 1994 22:36:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <39h1cp$5d3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <39443i$5ju@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <1994Nov5.181724.16258@news.vanderbilt.edu>
In article <1994Nov5.181724.16258@news.vanderbilt.edu>,
Thomas Katzlberger <katzlbt@necs> wrote:
>Christopher Flash Tarnas (cft@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
>
[snip]
>
>: I'm looking into getting a 486dx2 66 to run NeXT, BSD, and
>: (unless I can help it) windoze. I was wondering what I should look
>: for when purchasing a system/parts. (what's compatable, whats not)
>: I'm a student so my budget is not large (at all :). I'm just
>: looking now, waiting for my paychecks and trying to forget about
>: university bills.
>
>
>I don't understand the Question NeXT OR BSD !
>The NeXT Operating system includes BSD UNXIX in the MACH kernel,
>or as kernel sever in the MACH 3.0 kernel (NS3.3 (?)) and DOS, swodniW
>can be alternativeley booted at startup.
>
>Check NeXT's hardware compatibility guide.
>
>--
>Thomas Katzlberger
>katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
>
I've found that out. I knew that NeXT was based on BSD, but I wasn't
sure how much BSD remained.
I still might boot up a only BSD system at times (when I get the $$
to get the hardware) to save on speed. ( straight bsd has a slightly
smaller overhead than NS ;-)
-cft
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cft@cats.ucsc.edu iclhelp@cats.ucsc.edu |
Home: (408)-427-1064 Work: (408)-459-4693 |
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problem with PAS and CDplayer.app
Date: 5 Nov 1994 22:39:58 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <39h1ju$95l@news.onramp.net>
We have been experiencing a small problem that may have a simple solution.
After applying both patches to the PAS driver, CDPlayer.app works but only
after pressing enter when the app is launched. The app initializes the
CDROM drive properly but the sound comes through very faintly until the
user presses RETURN. After that, everything works fine.
BTW: the CDROM drive is an NEC 3x 510.
Thank you for any help you can provide.
--
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: comp.sys.next.hardware FAQ needed (memory for slab)
Date: 5 Nov 1994 22:55:28 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39h2h0$46r@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Okay, I looked on rtfm.mit.edu before posting this, but could not find
an FAQ for this group. I need to know what type/size SIMMs can go in
my non-turbo slab. Will 4megx9 80ns, 30pin work okay?
Thanks for any replies!
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sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: gayed@eye3.psych.ucla.edu (Jim Gayed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Running NEXSTEP on an IBM ThinkPad 755C
Date: 5 Nov 1994 23:19:40 GMT
Organization: UCLA Life Sciences Computing
Message-ID: <39h3uc$j3b@alamut.lifesci.ucla.edu>
I was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience running
NEXTSTEP on a laptop. I'm particularly interested in the IBM ThinkPad
755C. Does the Intel port of NEXTSTEP work on this machine? Will I
run into any hardware problems? If anyone has run it on a machine
like this, how fast is it compared to Motorala hardware running
NEXTSTEP 3.2? I am currently using Motorala hardware with a lot of
neat programs I would like to keep - what is the experience of users
out there compiling Motorala specific software running in NeXT or
NEXTSTEP on the new NEXSTEP for Intel os? If you have the source code
for the programs you want to port, is it relatively painless, or are
there a lot of bug fixes? Are there questions I should be asking or
aware of that I have not voiced here (there must be tons, I know).
ANY information on this dreamy scheme of mine will be helpful. Thanks
in advance for posts and replies via email.
My email address is gayed@psych.ucla.edu
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From: yong@iitmax.iit.edu (Yong Yoo)
Subject: HELP: PROBLEM LOGIN INTO THE SYSTEM.
Message-ID: <1994Nov6.044548.31196@iitmax.iit.edu>
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 94 04:45:48 GMT
Hi, I am running NeXTSTEP v3.2 on Pentium System with 32MB RAM, and VESA
ATI pro with 2MB. The system works great except for time to time it wouldn't
let me login. I would type my account and the password and the system will
pause for an about 10 seconds and I get busy circle icon cursor for an
another 10 seconds and the system kicks me out to the login window.
I also tried typing in wrong accounts or passwords, but then the login window
shakes side ways. The worst thing is that once the system refuse to let
any accounts into the system, only way I can go into the account again is
to restart the system. I have checked the file in /private/adm/messages
and found this line:
loginwindow[179]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
Is there anyone who knows how to fix this?
Even after I updated the new ati drivers from next ftp site, I still have
the problem.
I would appreciated very much if you would to send it to my account.
thanks in advance.
Yong Yoo
yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu
--
Yong
yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu
From: szamos@saul1.u.washington.edu (Janos Szamosfalvi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Date: 6 Nov 1994 05:55:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <39hr4p$avt@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <CyrpHu.2FB@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Thomas Wolfram (wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Hi,
: I would like to use my SyQuest SQ3270S, i.e. the cartridges,
: for exchanging data. Sounds natural but what happens if
: different SCSI controllers in the different computers are
: using different heads/sectors translation schemes (e.g.
: Adaptec controllers make every SCSI disk to appear to have
: 64 heads and 32 sectors, but not all SCSI controllers
: do the same) and this information is stored in any way in
: the respective partition when it's formatted?
I've used the my SyQuest with 3 different HA`s (ST01, TMC-850 MER,
TMC-1680) and it worked fine when I had the driver installed.
From: federico@heinz.com (Federico Heinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: printers of black hrdware
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 13:45:11 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Nov4.134511.27113@heinz.com>
References: <KAOKI.94Oct31120307@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Organization: Federico Heinz Consulting
Sender: usenet@heinz.com
In article <KAOKI.94Oct31120307@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) writes:
[a very useful compilation of non-PostScript printing solutions for NEXTSTEP
for motorola and intel, and their respective advantages]
> commercial solutions:
> --------------------
> c1. Dots. supports HPDJ, Canon InkJet series. Both mono AND
> color. $100/mono, $200 color, I think.
Just for the record, the list of currently supported printers include the
Canon BJ10, Canon BJ200, Canon BJ230, Canon BJ300, Canon BJ330, Canon BJC600,
Canon BJC800, Canon BJC820, Canon CLC10, Canon CLC500, Canon CLC300, CoStar
LabelWriterII, CoStar LabelWriterXL, Epson 24 Pin, Epson 24 Pin Wide, HP
DeskJet 500, HP DeskJet 500C, HP DeskJet 550C, HP DeskJet 1200C, HP DesignJet
600, HP DesignJet 650, HP LaserJet II, HP LaserJet III, HP LaserJet IV, HP
PaintJet XL, HP PaintJet XL300 PCL, IBM ProPrinter XL24, IBM ProPrinter XL24,
NEC 24 Pin, NEC 24 Pin Wide, Seiko PhotoMaker CH-6104 [deep breathing noise]
and compatibles.
> 2. InkJet seems to be slow. With NSTC, NS3.2, serial with full
> 300dpi quality TeX dvi file, it's about 1page/min. I don't know
> which is the bottle neck, but there are a couple: a. serial port
> speed b. bitmapping on the cpu, c. slow speed of inkjet compared
> to laser.
The output quality of the DeskJet line of printers continues to amaze me, and
they sure are sturdy beasts! Ink-jet printers in general are able to create
great printed output. According to my measures, there are several aspects to
slow printing using them. One of them, especially with black hardware, is
serial communications. However, compression as supported on the DeskJets and
modern LaserJets helps a great lot (I wouldn't recommend using non-PCL
printers on black hardware, as they don't support compression and make things
sssslllloooowwwww). Using compression, the DeskJet print engine becomes the
bottleneck for typical documents (there again, this is not true for
LaserJets). On intel machines, the use of the parallel port virtually
eliminates the transfer speed problem. Rendering on the cpu is not the
problem, unless your system is really under heavy load. It is typically
faster than rendering on the printer, and has a number of other advantages
(you don't need to upload fonts, you never run out of PostScript VM, etc.
etc).
Federico Heinz
DISCLAIMER: F. Heinz Consultora is the home of Dots, so it's no wonder we
like it :-). (BTW, why is this kind of stuff called a disclaimer? I'm not
revising any of my claims... I guess I'll never get the twist of the english
language).
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 486 PCI/VL
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 09:38:00 GMT
Message-ID: <941106054036864@btf.com>
Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766
Distribution: world
I know the Pentium PCI/VL combo systems are bad news for NS, but is it
also true of the 486 combo systems? Anyone have any experience with
them?
And on a related note, any recommendations for a 486 mb? I want PCI.
Thanks, Ronald Pottol
* RM 1.3 * Eval Day 90 * You're about as much use as a condom machine in the
atican!
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ADVICE ON NEXTSTEP/INTEL
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 09:13:00 GMT
Message-ID: <941106054036865@btf.com>
Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766
Distribution: world
References: <39gj6a$c5g@giga.bga.com>
BH> 1) For a little more I can replace my aging 486 w/ a new PowerPC
BH> system. If I do this, is NeXT ever likely to release NextStep for
BH> PowerPC?
I hope so, but PRep and Power Mac are not the save thing, although in 2-
3 years they may be. I very much doubt that you will ever be able to run
Nextstep on any Mac you could buy in the next 6 months.
BH> 2) Whatever system it's installed on, is it possible to maintain 2
BH> separate OS's on separate boot partitions (NeXT & OS2/Win on 468 or
BH> NeXT & Mac on PowerPC)?
No problem. Or so I hear.
* RM 1.3 * Eval Day 90 * Gargling twice daily is a good way to see if your ne
k leaks
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: printers of black hrdware
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 09:24:55 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <kijCQr_00iV301EFgK@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1994Nov4.134511.27113@heinz.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 4-Nov-94 Re: printers of
black hrdware by Federico Heinz@heinz.com
> DISCLAIMER: F. Heinz Consultora is the home of Dots, so it's no wonder we
> like it :-). (BTW, why is this kind of stuff called a disclaimer? I'm not
> revising any of my claims... I guess I'll never get the twist of the
english > language).
It's a disclaimer because your recommendation for the product is
obviously biased since (a) you wrote it, and (b) you make money from it.
Your disclaimer makes sure that no one confuses your description with
that of a customer.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 486 PCI/VL
Date: 6 Nov 1994 16:10:38 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39iv5u$m02@news.onramp.net>
References: <941106054036864@btf.com>
In article <941106054036864@btf.com> black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight)
writes:
> I know the Pentium PCI/VL combo systems are bad news for NS, but is it
> also true of the 486 combo systems? Anyone have any experience with
> them?
I haven't tried these, actually, but I would imagine they have the same
problems...
>
> And on a related note, any recommendations for a 486 mb? I want PCI.
I am most happy with the ASUS 486/PCI board. It includes an NCR
controller on the board, +std IO stuff and 72 pin SIMM slots (of course).
Why would anyone buy a new machine with peripherals and memory they won't
be able to use again? Well, they won't get one from me....:-).
Dan
Bifrost Enterprises
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: 72-pin SIMMs on NextStation mono non-turbo?
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 16:58:39 GMT
Message-ID: <Cyuv5s.HDJ@news2.new-york.net>
Well, I've just bought a half gig disk for my newly-acquired NextStation
mono (non-turbo) and I'm beginning to see where my performance bottleneck
lies: I need more memory.
Opening up the machine, I see that all 8 of the 30-pin SIMM slots are full
of 1-meg SIMMs. But, looking at the back part of the machine, behind the
DSP and CPU chips, I see what appears to be a 72-pin SIMM connector.
Is this what it appears to be?
If so, what type of memory (speed, width) can I install here?
Thanks. I'm loving this new machine: the OS is fantastic and the tools
work AMAZINGLY well together. And networking seems easier than anything
else I've used.
Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Black cube '040 slot
Message-ID: <Cyq31w.ov@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <399n5v$9gb@atlas.cs.upei.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 03:01:08 GMT
In article <399n5v$9gb@atlas.cs.upei.ca> student@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Peter
Burka) writes:
#Looking at some black '040 motherboards today, I noticed an unusual slot.
#It looks like a 72-pin SIMM socket, but it is slightly too small. Can
#anyone tell me what this is?
#
#Peter
DSP static RAM.
Kent
--
/* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */
/* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */
/* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
From: gbol@custard.think.com (Gregory Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Date: 6 Nov 94 12:27:40
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Message-ID: <GBOL.94Nov6122740@custard.think.com>
References: <39aq8q$12d2@news.manassas.ibm.com> <bchin.783876182@news.andi.org>
In-reply-to: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org's message of Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:23:02 GMT
zamora@vnet.ibm.com (Tony Zamora) writes:
>The hard drive in my NeXTstation (non-turbo) has been making a loud
>whine. This isn't a new problem, it's been like this for a couple of
>years, but I've finally decided to see if there's anything I can do to
>make it quieter. It's a Seagate ST1480 400MB internal hard drive, if
>that makes any difference. Has anyone else had this problem? What,
>if anything, can be done?
My drive was quite noisy. A previous poster on this subject suggested that
the noise was caused by the effects of mechanical stress on the lid of the
drive. By opening up the station and pressing down on the drive while in
operation (do this at your own risk) you can decrease the pitch of the
whine or eliminate it completely. I placed cardboard between the top of
the drive and the station cover. The noise has not been completey
eliminated but it is no longer distracting.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Re: 72-pin SIMMs on NextStation mono non-turbo?
References: <Cyuv5s.HDJ@news2.new-york.net>
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 17:55:26 GMT
Message-ID: <CyuxsE.Hsy@news2.new-york.net>
In article <Cyuv5s.HDJ@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew
Hocker) writes:
>
> Well, I've just bought a half gig disk for my newly-acquired NextStation
[deleting my own stuff...]
> Matt
Ok, in the time between these two messages, I've found and read the FAQ
for hardware. It appears that this "slot" is a DSP expansion slot, so no
go on the memory. I guess I have to get 4mb 30-pin SIMMS and ditch some of
my existing memory.
Question: Can you mix 1mb and 4-mb SIMMS? I know they have to be in pairs
(due to the way the ROM looks at memory banks) so would this config work:
Bank 1: 2x 1mb (SIMM slot 1, 2
Bank 2: 2x 1mb 3, 4
Bank 3: 2x 1mb 5, 6
Bank 4: 2x 4mb 7, 8)
?
Thanks.
Matt
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Date: 6 Nov 1994 08:47:56 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) writes:
>What about the BSD file system of NeXTSTEP? Is exchanging
>cartridges possible?
Yes! Exchanging SyQuests between NeXTSTEP/Intel machines is no problem
with Next-FS and Mac-FS. Only DOS-FS sometimes makes trouble.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kmcdonne@netcom.com (Kevin McDonnell)
Subject: Optical Drive problem on '040 Cube
Message-ID: <kmcdonneCyv4pw.E3J@netcom.com>
Keywords: Optical drive, cube
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 20:25:08 GMT
The optical drive on my cube (an '030 upgraded to '040) has started to
fail. When I insert a disk it spins for a while, stops, spins some more
and then the following error is emitted on the console:
od0?: drive command failed (not at speed) block 0 phys block -66384 (0:0:0)
I then have to eject the disk manually.
The drive has been working fine until now ;-(
Anybody any ideas ?
--
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From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 72-pin SIMMs on NextStation mono non-turbo?
Date: 6 Nov 1994 20:59:46 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <39jg42$ojb@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
References: <Cyuv5s.HDJ@news2.new-york.net>
In article <Cyuv5s.HDJ@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew
Hocker) writes:
&
&Well, I've just bought a half gig disk for my newly-acquired NextStation
&mono (non-turbo) and I'm beginning to see where my performance bottleneck
&lies: I need more memory.
&
&Opening up the machine, I see that all 8 of the 30-pin SIMM slots are full
&of 1-meg SIMMs. But, looking at the back part of the machine, behind the
&DSP and CPU chips, I see what appears to be a 72-pin SIMM connector.
&
&Is this what it appears to be?
&
&If so, what type of memory (speed, width) can I install here?
&
&Thanks. I'm loving this new machine: the OS is fantastic and the tools
&work AMAZINGLY well together. And networking seems easier than anything
&else I've used.
I'm glad you like your Station. This question should be in the FAQ by
now. That 72pin socket is a expansion slot for the DSP memory. I don't
know the exact speed/pin configuration of that socket, perhaps someone
else who knows more will offer some good info(Fabien?). Jim Mooseman had a few
at one time I think (probably all the larger resellers, Sam G., Jim Mooseman,
Dan(Pixelated), etc. have seen em), It is only useful if you are using
software that relies on the DSP chip.
To really improve your station from it's current 8M squeeze.. exchange
4 of the 1M simms for 4M simms (BTW the largest it can take in each slot
32M is the maximum mem typically on mono 25Mhz stations. 8x4M simms) so
your config is 20M, you'll be VERY pleased with the increase in system
response!! It's really worth the $$ to upgrade black from 8M,
especially on color machines.
Just my 1000bytes.
Randy
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Printer Problem -> Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CyusI9.8t@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 16:01:21 GMT
My printer started acting weird today.
It will only pull paper into the path then it
jams. It will not pull paper through the printer.
I heard that sometimes a small gear wears and
causes some problems. Where is this gear?
I have a replacement.
Kent
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Need Installation instructions
Message-ID: <bbutlerCyvC87.Mtu@netcom.com>
Summary: Need installation instructions for NSFIP
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 23:07:18 GMT
Help, I just bought a used copy of NextStep for Intel (3.2) and the seller
didn't include the installation instructions. I tried to do it blind
but I can't get it to work. It hangs up as some point during the installation.
(it's not the keyboard bug described on NextAnswers.)
If someone in the Boston area would be willing to loan me their installation
guide I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
--
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bbutler@netcom.com
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice on NextStep/Intel vs. PowerPC - Help
Date: 7 Nov 1994 04:52:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39kbpp$l5c@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <39gj6a$c5g@giga.bga.com>
In article <39gj6a$c5g@giga.bga.com> brook@bga.com (brook Heimbaugh)
writes:
> 1) For a little more I can replace my aging 486 w/ a new PowerPC system.
> If I do this, is NeXT ever likely to release NextStep for PowerPC?
I seriously doubt it. I am sure that the next ports in line are SUN and
DEC workstations. A power PC port, if it ever happens, will not occur
soon.
> 2) Whatever system it's installed on, is it possible to maintain 2
> separate OS's on separate boot partitions (NeXT & OS2/Win on 468 or NeXT
Yes. This works now with NextStep and DOS/Windows.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: c9039@rrzc3 (Roland Schwingel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CDROM-Writer on Next ?
Date: 7 Nov 1994 10:40:40 GMT
Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany
Message-ID: <39l078INNg6f@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
Keywords: CDROM,WRITER
Hello,
I got a question concerning CDWriters on Nextstep. I got a Pinacle RCD202
Writer and want to attach it to the Next.
Now the following is happening, when I am inserting an empty media:
Nextstep opens the format disk panel and wants to format or eject the
WORM and therefore I can not write to this device.
How can I prevent NS from doing this ?
Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Roland
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From: schmatz@mix.caed.iao.fhg.de (Peter Schmatz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Status of Inter EtherExpressPro Driver
Date: 7 Nov 1994 12:59:30 GMT
Organization: FhG-IAO (Stuttgart-Germany)
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <39l8bi$87f@news.belwue.de>
Could some tell me the current status of the driver
for the Intel Ether Express Pro board for NS3.2.
The README shipped with the board says past Oct.....
I need this driver urgently and I don`t want to change
the board (it`s fast under DOS/Windows)
Thanks Peter
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From: root@biw.cube.de (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 7 Nov 1994 12:07:23 GMT
Organization: biw
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39l59r$3mr@next01.biw.cube.de>
References: <39cv6l$2a0h@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
For all this SCSI driver discussion I will add the follwoing:
I use a Gecko and made test with a DEC3107L
With NeXTSTEP I get arround 1MB/s with HPUX I get
three times more.
A friend of mine used a Barracude with HPUX and he got 12MB/s which
means that under NS it would be about 4MB
This is a shame.
Drivers are the NS problem since they support other than black hardware.
Look at the serial driver for intel.
nothing changed, all people who want to use a fast modem
uses the MUX8 driver. My problem here arises that I have
to set up 20 or more laptops with NS one which all should use
modems for connecting people to a host.
I am afraid I have to do that with the next driver.
And I also afraid to do that with the mux, because
it is not so easy to install and replace the
existing serial driver
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schulz@biw.cube.de
Chaos has been found in systems as diverse as the weather, chemical
reactions, biological systems, and even computer networks!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: NeXT DPT PCI cache cntrl was Re: AMD 80, P5-60, P5-90, Sparc, SCSI, HTTP
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 15:42:58 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Nov7.154258.20574@bilver.oau.org>
References: <3987oc$2a9@anshar.shadow.net> <1994Nov3.165557.559@plexare.com>
In article <1994Nov3.165557.559@plexare.com>,
Michael S. Barthelemy <msb@plexare.com> wrote:
>jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs) writes:
>> Yes, performance does matter. Especially with a system like NS, which
>> accesses the disk frequently. PCI is the best, with VESA coming in
>> second. I'm currently getting 2.3MB/s with an NCR 825 PCI SCSI card.
....
>Acutually I still have not seen a controller that outperformed the DPT
>2122 EISA SCSI Cacheing RAID controller. With 7 drives attached to it it
>absolutely screams. (RAID level 0) You also have to remember that the
>bottleneck is not really the bus, unless you're using ISA, the drives
>themselves are the limiting factor. The PCI DPT controllers should be
>available with the release of 3.3. (from what I am told)
Talking with DPT last week (they are local) I was told that
current schedule is for product to ship to users starting on
November 18.
Bill
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice on NextStep/Intel vs. PowerPC - Help
Date: 7 Nov 1994 17:03:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39lmln$n6h@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <39kbpp$l5c@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <39kbpp$l5c@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
> In article <39gj6a$c5g@giga.bga.com> brook@bga.com (brook Heimbaugh)
> writes:
> > 1) For a little more I can replace my aging 486 w/ a new PowerPC
system.
> > If I do this, is NeXT ever likely to release NextStep for PowerPC?
>
> I seriously doubt it. I am sure that the next ports in line are SUN and
> DEC workstations. A power PC port, if it ever happens, will not occur
> soon.
>
Motorola, Apple, and IBM just announced a PowerPC standard which
should make designing a PowerPC version of NS more sensible. Because all
future PowerPC hardware will likely conform to this standard, one can hope
that NS for PowerPC should run on anyone's hardware.
But the announcement did state that 1996 would be the earliest that
standards-conforming hardware would likely be available, so Todd's "will
not occur soon" is probably valid.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: mandel@oxbox.cso.uiuc.edu (Hector Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 2842A NSI3.2 ??
Date: 7 Nov 1994 18:37:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <39ls5e$f3o@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I have an EISA/VESA 486 MB and an Adaptec 2842A host adapter. Is there any
hope of running NSI3.2 on this combo? I'd appreciate any suggestions or
leads about device drivers.
Thanks in advance.
--
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From: jjuran@eos.hitc.com (Joshua Juran)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What hardware to purchase for new computer center?
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 1994 12:59:25 -0500
Organization: Hughes Applied Information Systems
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <jjuran-0711941259250001@lo-mac3108b.hitc.com>
Okay, take 2.
Assuming our organization (unrelated to Hughes) receives the required
funds, we will open a computer center, for use mainly by students. I'm
strongly in favor of NeXTStep, although we may purchase some Macs as well
(probably all PowerPC, unless others are donated). We're especially
interested in multi-lingual support (namely Spanish). In a nutshell,
which underlying hardware should we get?
Original black seems unlikely, for well-known reasons. Again, unless
it's donated.
I don't want to mess with PC's again, but the Canon ObjectStation is
definitely under consideration.
HP PA-RISC is a possibility.
Future contenders: Sun SPARC, PowerPC? I just read that NS exists for
the PPC chip, but has not been completed for any specific platform.
Questions: What is the 'best' type of hardware? Should we stick with
one platform or have a heterogenous network? Will NS run on PowerMacs,
dual-boot or otherwise? Should we wait on PPC until PReP solidifies?
(Btw, what exactly *is* PReP?)
Your comments are appreciated.
Joshua Juran
Information Technologist
Raising Hispanic Academic Achievement, Inc.
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From: "James A. McGilvray" <jim@philo.mcgill.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 21" color Megapixels: HV problems?
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 12:40:23 -0500 (GMT-0500)
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.90.941107121654.11693B-100000@dep>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi, all,
My 21" Megapixel has the same symptoms of illness as the 17" color
Megapixels discussed a couple of months ago in this group: 1) pressing
the power button sometimes starts up the screen immediately, but sometimes
it waits for up to ten minutes; 2) on one occasion, the screen quit
entirely after a few hours, although it started up again after releasing
and then pressing the power button. It also has another symptom: after
working for from ten minutes to a half hour, the screen sometimes suddenly
brightens considerably, and the pitch of the noise coming from the
screen's power supply goes up. It may or may not continue bright thereafter.
Judging by people's experiences with the 17" screens, it sounds like a
power supply problem. Has anyone had similar problems with this screen?
And if you have, could you tell me what you did about it? In fact, if
someone has a parts list like that provided for the 17", I would
appreciate getting it. I'm reasonably handy at fixing electronic
equipment, and would like to avoid trying to find a competent local
technician, not to mention avoiding paying for the labor.
Thanks,
Jim McGilvray
jim@philo.mcgill.ca
From: ptuomola@xs4all.nl (Petri Tuomola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Documentation about Black NeXT hardware - does any exist?
Date: 7 Nov 1994 20:19:59 GMT
Organization: The Brave New World, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39m25f$a2h@news.xs4all.nl>
Cc:
I am starting to get really annoyed by the behaviour of NeXT and their
upgrade policy. It would not surprise me in the least if they one day
in the near future decided to drop support for NeXTstations completely.
Therefore I'm starting to look for alternatives. One way would be to give
up NeXTstation completely. That is something I'm not ready to do, as I really
like everything in it. Other possibility is to keep on using the current
version of NeXTstep. However, I'm sure, there will come a time when I'm
too annoyed by all the bugs and would like to do something about them.
When considering my alternatives I noticed that there are several free
operating systems ported and working well for the Motorola 68xxx series,
such as NetBSD and Linux. Although today they cannot compete with NeXTstep,
there might come a time when they will. According to my limited knowledge
porting those systems to run on NeXTstation would not be a huge task but
would consist primarily of writing the necessary device drivers for the
display, SCSI etc. (tell me if I'm wrong).
Now here comes the problem - I haven't found any hardware-level documentation
on the NeXTstation architecture. Does any exist outside NeXT? If yes, would
some kind soul tell me how to get my hands on it.
Thanks a million.
Petri
From: zahid@schroeder (Zahid Mahmood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Neuron 1414
Date: 7 Nov 1994 16:07:22 GMT
Organization: Abbott Laboratories
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39ljbq$qtv@kelso.abbott.com>
Keywords: NEURON 1414, FAXMODEM
Hi,
I've just aquired a Neuron 1414 FaxModem for my NextStation non-turbo
mono. Is there anyone who can supply me a driver for it ?
or suggest ways of getting it to send/recieve faxes.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Zahid
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From: cedar@cedar.demon.co.uk (Cedar Systems)
Subject: ppd for TI microWriter 23?
Distribution: world
Organization: t p
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:45:46 +0000
Message-ID: <784230346snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Hi,
If anyone has a ppd file for the TI microWriter 23 could they let me know.
To save bandwidth, I will ask the first to reply to email me a copy.
Thanks,
Paul.
email: phef@cedar.demon.co.uk
--
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Date: 7 Nov 1994 21:33:05 GMT
Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT
Message-ID: <39m6eh$hts@news.cc.utah.edu>
References: <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de>
In article <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de> wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) writes:
] I would like to use my SyQuest SQ3270S, i.e. the cartridges,
] for exchanging data. Sounds natural but what happens if
] different SCSI controllers in the different computers are
] using different heads/sectors translation schemes (e.g.
] Adaptec controllers make every SCSI disk to appear to have
] 64 heads and 32 sectors, but not all SCSI controllers
] do the same) and this information is stored in any way in
] the respective partition when it's formatted?
The quick answer is "it depends".
The longer answer is "it depends on if the translation is linear".
If the translation is linear, then there is a 1:1 correspondence between
sectors, in order, in both translated and untranslated modes.
That is, if you multiply out the CHS value to get the absolute sector
address, then the absolute sector address contains the same data as if
you had done an untranslated access.
Protected mode operating systems (in general, anyway) don't do BIOS access
and are thus always untranslated.
In general, unless the controller is "too smart" and reserves sectors to
do controller/BIOS based bad sector forwarding (like some WD1007 ESDI
controllers) in the middle of the disk, then the translation is totally
irrelevant. Or rather, it is relevent only if the media is supposed to
be considered bootable.
] Even DOS stores the number of heads
] and sectors in the "boot" sector of the respective
] partition. Does this cause any problems when using the
] cartridges in different computers?
Only if they are bootable (see above).
] What about the BSD file system of NeXTSTEP? Is exchanging
] cartridges possible?
It's possible -- if you write a NeXTStep "BSD FS" for BSD, or a BSD
"BSD FS" for NeXTStep.
It's easier if you use the media as a linearly addressable media --
and then just tar directly to and from the raw device.
Making the device cross-mountable between operating system types is a
non-trivial task, especially if you are missing source for one of those
operating systems. This becomes more difficult (byte order problems and
access alignment problems, etc.) if you are trying to move the media
between machines with different processer architectures.
] What about the Linux file system?
Linux and *BSD could easily cross-mount each other's file systems; as
a developement environment, FreeBSD 2.0/NetBSD 1.0 are probably better
choices for implemented an ext2fs or other Linux FS, although porting
the BSD FS into Linux would probably be pretty trivial as well as long
as you were very familiar with the VM system on Linux and started with
older FS code (the OS consumer interface in the newer *BSD versions is
vnode rather than VM based and is thus much harder to port into the older
Linux VM consumer model).
One (gross) alternative might be to format the media and mount it
using an FS that is already supported by your platforms: MSDOSFS.
The problems in doing this are a loss of long names and a loss of
POSIX FS compliance (an MSDOS FS can only comply with POSIX if it is
mounted read-only).
You should be aware that Linux, if you choose it as a platform, has
some cache code discrepancies that I don't quite trust when it comes
to removable media. It doesn't flush the cache on a removable volume's
data when the volume is removed. There is a finite probability for
error in doing this. This is not as much of a problem in CDROMs, but
for writable media it could quickly become a problem.
The tagging mechanism is similar to IBMs JFS, which (incorrectly) assumes
that a removable volume will be remounted in the same drive it was first
created in. Multiple drives will drive it nuts, since it assumes the
drive idenitifier as part of the unique ID for the volume.
This is especially evident if you are trying to do CD mastering with a
R/W ISO9660 volume and a CDROM one-off and both are on removable media.
The easiest correction is to modify the Linux FS code to invalidate the
vnode cache for the device when the device is unmounted. I'm told that
this has been suggested to the Linux folks in the past, but that there
are remount performance considerations that they don't want to degrade.
Anyone with two or more removable devices of any kind, or anyone with
a single writeable removable device should apply the correction without
regard for the opinions of "the powers that be". Remount isn't that
frequent unless you are running a CDROM jukebox anyway.
Regards,
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
---
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or previous employers.
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From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars Andreas Stole)
Subject: refresh rate and resolution on a mono-slab monitor?
Message-ID: <1994Nov7.231342.5825@midway.uchicago.edu>
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Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 23:13:42 GMT
The subject heading says it all. I'm planning on buying a Pentium system,
but hate giving up the text clarity of grayscale. Nanao has a 21"
grayscale monitor that operates at 1280-1024 (@75Hz) and 1600-1200 (@60Hz).
I am curious as to the resolution and refresh rate on my current '040 mono
monitor as a comparison. Thanks in advance.
BTW: for anyone who is interested, the monitor is a Nanao Flexscan 6500
(256 grayscale) which has a mailorder price of $1000-1100.
--
Lars A. Stole
Graduate School of Business
University of Chicago
1101 E. 58th Street
Chicago, IL 60637
U.S.A.
From: ijr1eec@mvs.oac.ucla.edu (Eric E. Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Token Ring Adapter and Next Workstations
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:06:39
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <ijr1eec.72.00111CE0@mvs.oac.ucla.edu>
I was wondering if anyone knows where I could buy a Token Ring Adapter for a
Next Workstation. Did they ever make one?
Eric E. Chang
UCLA School of PublicPolicy and Social Research
From: gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway 2000 and 3COM EtherLink III problem
Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:27:32 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <39mglk$j62@heron.cc.gatech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: gt2186a
have one of the new P5-60 Gateway 200 machines. It is really nice with 2
exceptions (I will post a second article). The ethernet speed is very slow.
I only have two machines connected. A NeXTstation and the PC. If I ftp ]
a file to the PC I get between 40 and 80 K/s throughput. However if I
ftp from the PC to the NeXT I get 220 to 300 K/s throughput. Does anyone have
any experience with this? I need help. This will not due when I start NFS
mounting directories.
The configuration follows:
Stealth 64 VRAM (2MB) PCI bus video card
Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller
Game adaptor (very old)
3COM 509 Etherlink II Combo card.
IDE 540 MEG harddrive
IDE 2x NEC CDROM
NeXT SCSI CDROM
16Meg of RAM
Thanks
Frank
--
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: gt2186a@cc.gatech.edu (Frank Cobia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway 2000 Monitor problems
Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:32:17 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <39mguh$j8a@heron.cc.gatech.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: gt2186a
I am having problems with my monitor using the Stealth 64 VRAM beta drivers.
I get a vrticle line that goes from the top to the bottom of the screen
and is one pixel wide which is white. The rest of the background is grey.
Other than that they picture is great. I thought that maybe I had a defective
monitor (Crystal Scan 1776LE, really a MAG), but it works at the same
resolution and refresh rate under windows (1152x864x60hz). Mag also claims
it should work at this resolution and refresh rate. Any tips? Please help.
The configuration follows:
Stealth 64 VRAM (2MB) PCI bus video card
Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller
Game adaptor (very old)
3COM 509 Etherlink II Combo card.
IDE 540 MEG harddrive
IDE 2x NEC CDROM
NeXT SCSI CDROM
16Meg of RAM
Thanks
Frank
--
COBIA,FRANK NAYLOR
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP SCSI Install Question (DSP3210S)
Message-ID: <1994Nov7.104428.25058@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
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Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu> <39585m$j0c@diablo.ppp.de>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 10:44:28 GMT
Atze (Alexander Spohr) writes:
>In article <3931a4$4u9@godot.cc.duq.edu> brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
>writes:
>[...]
>> this: "sd0: No Valid Disk Label". Prior to this I had just re-formatted the
>If you didn't soft-format the Disk under NS (disk -i) or DOS (format c:) it can
>not have a label. So this is not a problem.
>> driver with Bus Logics low-level formatter. After the message about no valid
>> disk label, the OS goes on to correctly identify the size of the disk,
>> 2049mb.
>[...]
>> installation, it stops and says "you don't have any disks that NeXTstep can
>> be installed on. You must have a disk with 512bytes/sector and at least 120mb
>> of free disk space".
>>
>NS <= 3.2 can not handle Disks with more than 2GB. Wait for 3.3. The prerelease
>runs the IBM after you twiddle some of the sense-mode-bits. I couldn't make my
>DEC work, because DEC will not give me the sense-mode config. Reason: the DEC
>DSP3210S X441 is not manufactured by DEC, it's from DSP i think, hence the
>name. Sorry for you, me and all other people having bought this nice-price
>piece of an HD. I installed an old 200MB HD to boot from. Yuck!
I was able to make the DSP3210S into a bootable drive. I'm using a NeXTstation
running 3.0. And I formatted the drive and labeling it, after having booted
from another drive. But after all that, I can boot from the Dec drive.
This is my disktab entry:
#+
# DEC DSP3210S with 512 byte sectors
# by Hisaaki Shimo (shimo@biac.linc.or.jp)
#-
dsp3210s|DSP3210S|DEC DSP3210S:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3049:nt#16:ns#43:ss#1024:rm#5400:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=odmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#2097152:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
#
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Magnetic Optical or DAT drive for backup
Message-ID: <1994Nov7.105344.25528@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <398234$apf@bmw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 10:53:44 GMT
Hi,
I'm in the process of evaluating / buying the new Fujitsu 2512A
230MB drive. The first one was broke, so I don't know if it
does work. It should, but you never know.
Give me a mail in a week time if want to know more. And please
summarize your results.
Willem
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM
Date: 8 Nov 1994 03:16:19 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <39mqi3$84g@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu>
In article <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) writes:
>I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution to this,
>but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let me know
>if you find a better solution than this.
>
>: /usr/standalone/boot.cdrom onto an optical disk using "disk -B ...", and
>: attempting to boot from that file using "bod(0,0,0)sdmach rootdev=od0", and it
>: said "searching for CDROMs", and I could see it reading the CDROM (could hear
>: it and see the lights), but then it quit with an exception #4.
When I was installing to a PC with a hard disk on SCSI 1, I
had the CD-ROM on SCSI 0. This didn't work. Changing the
CD-ROM to an id higher than the internal disk fixed things.
I don't know if this is the same problem you're having, but as
I seem to recall old installs on black hardware having the
CD-ROM as a lower id than the internal disk for installation,
I thought I'd mention it just in case.
- db
--
Burns: "Who is that goat legged fellow? I like the cut of his jib!"
Smithers: "Prince of Darkness, sir. He's your 11:00."
From: fseto@math09.gatech.edu (Frank Seto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 8 Nov 1994 05:26:07 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <39n25f$nf5@mordred.gatech.edu>
References: <39f7eb$egu@yuggoth.ucsb.edu> <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> <39mqi3$84g@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: In article <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@redwood.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) writes:
: >I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution to this,
: >but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let me know
: >if you find a better solution than this.
: >
: When I was installing to a PC with a hard disk on SCSI 1, I
: had the CD-ROM on SCSI 0. This didn't work. Changing the
: CD-ROM to an id higher than the internal disk fixed things.
: I don't know if this is the same problem you're having, but as
: I seem to recall old installs on black hardware having the
: CD-ROM as a lower id than the internal disk for installation,
: I thought I'd mention it just in case.
: - db
Interesting. However, the problem I was having is that it still said "no
SCSI device" if I disconnect the CD ROM drive. My guess is that the external
CD ROM drive also has a terminator. Is there a jumper on the box to set
termination? By the way, the hard drive is a Conner CP30540, if it helps any.
-Frank
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ppd for TI microWriter 23?
Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:59:40 -0700
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
Message-ID: <39mpis$skn@ame2.math.arizona.edu>
References: <784230346snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
>If anyone has a ppd file for the TI microWriter 23 could they let me know.
>To save bandwidth, I will ask the first to reply to email me a copy.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Paul.
If anyone has such a ppd file, I'd like to have one copy, too.
Thanks
Yuwen Cheng
yucheng@ame2.math.arizona.edu (no NeXT-mail)
yucheng@tepache.math.arizona.edu (NeXT-mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Documentation about Black NeXT hardware - does any exist?
Message-ID: <CyxIAt.Cqt@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>
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Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <39m25f$a2h@news.xs4all.nl>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 03:13:40 GMT
In article <39m25f$a2h@news.xs4all.nl>,
Petri Tuomola <ptuomola@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>Now here comes the problem - I haven't found any hardware-level documentation
>on the NeXTstation architecture. Does any exist outside NeXT? If yes, would
>some kind soul tell me how to get my hands on it.
>
It's probably on the shelf right next to all the documentation on how to do
interresting things with the NeXTdimension.
--
David Evans dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie "Default is the value selected by the
University of Waterloo composer overridden by your command."
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mike@ceramics.cmpe.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! Unable to install 3.2 (yes 3.2) from scratch via CD-ROM
Date: 8 Nov 1994 06:44:23 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39n6o7$kd8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <39n25f$nf5@mordred.gatech.edu>
In article <39n25f$nf5@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@math09.gatech.edu (Frank
Seto) writes:
> Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
> : In article <39gbv3$fp1@mordred.gatech.edu> fseto@redwood.gatech.edu
(Frank Seto) writes:
>
> : >I have already posted a message asking if there is a better solution
to this,
> : >but it seems like all the Next guru are hiding under a rock... Let
me know
> : >if you find a better solution than this.
> : >
> : When I was installing to a PC with a hard disk on SCSI 1, I
> : had the CD-ROM on SCSI 0. This didn't work. Changing the
> : CD-ROM to an id higher than the internal disk fixed things.
>
> : I don't know if this is the same problem you're having, but as
> : I seem to recall old installs on black hardware having the
> : CD-ROM as a lower id than the internal disk for installation,
> : I thought I'd mention it just in case.
>
> : - db
>
> Interesting. However, the problem I was having is that it still said
"no
> SCSI device" if I disconnect the CD ROM drive. My guess is that the
external
> CD ROM drive also has a terminator. Is there a jumper on the box to set
> termination? By the way, the hard drive is a Conner CP30540, if it
helps any.
>
> -Frank
--
Well, I'm sort of late getting into this but here is something to look
into. Are you using an external SCSI CD-ROM drive? If yes then read on.
Is your SCSI hardware internally terminated or software terminated. If it
is internally terminated you will have to remove this (contact the
manufacturer) and if it is done by software then there will be an escape
sequence (like type Ctrl-B) during startup in order to remove the software
controlled terminator.
..Mike.
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From: vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO)
Subject: NS on Pentium
Message-ID: <Cywv81.3Ht@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 18:55:12 GMT
I am interested in setting up an Intel-based
configuration for running NS, for my personal
use. So........
I would appreciate if someone with NS running on
Pentium 90 based configuration would share the
details of the configuration with me.
rao
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What hardware to purchase for new computer center?
Date: 8 Nov 1994 07:51:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <39nald$hk2@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <jjuran-0711941259250001@lo-mac3108b.hitc.com>
In article <jjuran-0711941259250001@lo-mac3108b.hitc.com>
jjuran@eos.hitc.com (Joshua Juran) writes:
> interested in multi-lingual support (namely Spanish). In a nutshell,
> which underlying hardware should we get?
Power PC is not available and won't be soon. Your choices are NeXT,
Intel, and HP hardware, or if you want to wait six months, SUN.
I won't make a specific recommendation but will explain my opinion of the
relative advantages of each type of hardware.
Color NextStation or NextStation Turbo. If speed isn't the most important
thing and seamless, trouble free setup and operation is, then buy used
NeXT hardware. You can get all the latest software for NeXT hardware, so
the only penalty you will pay is number crunching speed. Personally, I
don't think the extra $800 to $1000 for a turbo is worth the price, since
the performance increase is minimal. If you want the best speed, then you
shouldn't be buying NeXT hardware in the first place. The only reason to
buy a turbo over a nonturbo colorstation is if you want more than 32 MB
RAM. If you buy a colorstation with a NeXT monitor, try to get NeXT's
Sony trinitron monitor, not the FIMI. The Sony is sharper. The cost of a
colorstation with 16 MB RAM, a 400 MB hard drive and a 17" NeXT trinintron
monitor is around $2800. Add $500 for another 16 MB RAM.
Canon objectstation: If speed is important but not critical and seamless,
trouble free operation is top on your list. The ObjectStation, like NeXT
hardware, will work right out of the box with no problems. Its drawbacks
are its high price and the fact that it doesn't have state of the art
speed. The price for an objectstation with a 17" monitor, 500 MB hard
drive and 32 MB RAM will be at the very least $5100, and that's if you do
some heavy duty mail order shopping. Furthermore, the objectstation is a
100MHz 486, not a pentium, and it has non upgradeable 1280x1024 16 bit
color graphics. For the same money, you can get a P90 with better
graphics. Only buy the objectstation if you value not having to deal with
configuring your machine. You should value this to the tune of $700 to
$1000 if you buy an objectstation.
Generic PC. This is your best bet if you are a performance hog or if you
want the best price per MIP. The disadvantages are that you will have to
put in a bit of effort in picking out all the right components
(motherboard, graphics card, ethernet card, sound card, SCSI card) which
are NextStep compatible. However, the information is all there on the net
and in NextAnswers. For $4000 you can get a P90 with 1280x1024 16 bit
color graphics, 17" monitor, 1GB SCSI, ethernet card (etherexpress), and
so forth. If you want all the best, (1600x1200 fast color, super sound
card, speakers, 2 GB fast SCSI 2, P100, etc) then you can spend up to
$7000.
HP hardware. Only buy this if you have tens of thousands sitting in your
wallet and you want the absolute fastest NextStep machine in existence.
Although you can get the bottom of the line HP 712 with 1024x768 graphics
and a 17" monitor for $4000, I wouldn't recommend it. Only this bottom of
the line 60 MHz 712 is affordable. HP tries to suck in first time buyers
by offering a reasonable price on their lowest performance computer. Then
they sock it to you later if you want a faster machine or any peripheral.
A P90 has slightly better performance than the 712/60. Furthermore, you
can buy standard add-ons for Intel (and NeXT) hardware. For the HP, you
must use certain disk drives (HP and one or two others). For installing
the system, you can only use an HP CD ROM drive, although one or two other
brands will later work for reading data. If you want to buy ROM, it must
be special nonstandard ROM. The bottom line is that you will pay later if
you want peripherals or upgrades. Furthermore, all NextStep software is
not yet available for the HP. An individual should not consider HP
hardware, in my opinion.
Sun hardware in another few months. I'll probably have the same
criticisms as with HP hardware, except that there will be even less
software available.
In your case, I would suggest making all of your NextStep machines run on
one and only one type of generic PC. If you're buying several machines,
it is certainly worth the price break to go generic instead of
ObjectStation. If all of your NextStep PCs are identical, then you've
only got one hardware configuration to figure out, and it shouldn't be too
bad.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Message-ID: <Cyxyrp.pB@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 09:09:25 GMT
In article <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de> wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas
Wolfram) writes:
>
> Hi,
> I would like to use my SyQuest SQ3270S, i.e. the cartridges,
> for exchanging data. Sounds natural but what happens if
> different SCSI controllers in the different computers are
> using different heads/sectors translation schemes (e.g.
> Adaptec controllers make every SCSI disk to appear to have
> 64 heads and 32 sectors, but not all SCSI controllers
> do the same) and this information is stored in any way in
> the respective partition when it's formatted?
>
As long as you use the disks as NeXTSTEP formatted with a
BSD filesystem, this is totally irrelevant as the driver accesses
logical blocknumbers on the SCSI device. The translation to
heads/sectors as needed for DOS doesn't take place here.
It is even possible to change such a disk between black and
white and maybe even green (?) hardware.
Have fun!
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micropolis Internal disk OK for Cube ?
Date: 8 Nov 1994 12:07:32 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <39npm4$6im@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I am looking at getting a 1GB disk SCSI disk for my old NeXT cube.
the model that I am looking at is a Micropolis MIC4110 - will this
work OK as an internal drive ? Is the power supply in the cube
compatible, etc.
Cheers Rupert.
E-Mail : rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk
From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: where is the FAQ about the cube's ram
Date: 8 Nov 1994 14:46:15 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <39o2vn$49l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Would someone point me to the ftp site for the FAQ ?
I current want to remove some ram form my cube, but I don't know which I should puul out ? I remenber I saw List of FAQs about NeXT; however, I just couldn't locate them in the the two ftp site (ftp.cs.orst.edu and sonata.cc.edu).
Would you please send me the information to "kuocy.ecn.purdue.edu" (no next mail, please).
Thanks in advance,
Chun-Yen
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + P100 + Adaptec2940 + Seagate 2Gb results
Date: 8 Nov 1994 09:05:40 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <39nbgk$1eh@marsu.s.bawue.de>
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root@biw.cube.de (Operator) writes:
>For all this SCSI driver discussion I will add the follwoing:
>I use a Gecko and made test with a DEC3107L
>With NeXTSTEP I get arround 1MB/s with HPUX I get
>three times more.
>A friend of mine used a Barracude with HPUX and he got 12MB/s which
Kay, Du weisst selbst dass keine Platte der Welt 12 MB/s liefert. Da
ist nur mehr gecached worden.
>means that under NS it would be about 4MB
>This is a shame.
Das stimmt allerdings :-(
>Drivers are the NS problem since they support other than black hardware.
Das wuerde ich so nicht sagen. Next hat noch nie einen Fast-SCSI-II-Treiber
fuer schwarze Hardware entwickeln muessen - wer sagt Dir, dass sie da nicht
genauso versagt haetten? Einen asynchronen SCSI-1-Treiber zu schreiben ist
lange nicht so schwer.
>Look at the serial driver for intel.
>nothing changed, all people who want to use a fast modem
>uses the MUX8 driver. My problem here arises that I have
Der im 3.3 laeuft zumindest bis 19200 zuverlaessig.
>to set up 20 or more laptops with NS one which all should use
>modems for connecting people to a host.
>I am afraid I have to do that with the next driver.
>And I also afraid to do that with the mux, because
>it is not so easy to install and replace the
>existing serial driver
Doch, ist es, wenn man weiss wie. Ich weiss jetzt, was damals schief ging,
und es ist ganz einfach, das zu vermeiden. Ich kann Dir die Instance0.tables
fuer die Kombination Originaltreiber-Port1 und Mux-Port2 schicken, die
brauchst Du nur ueberall reinzukopieren.
Gruss,
Markus.
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// NeXTSTEP Consulting + Administration // University of Stuttgart //
// mow@marsu.s.bawue.de // wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de //
// ...have a look at http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html //
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:35:39 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QijxA=_00iV9E7N2Qi@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Cyxyrp.pB@belly.in-berlin.de>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Nov-94 Re: SyQuest
SQ3270S for Dat.. by Axel Habermann@belly.in-
> As long as you use the disks as NeXTSTEP formatted with a
> BSD filesystem, this is totally irrelevant as the driver accesses
> logical blocknumbers on the SCSI device. The translation to
> heads/sectors as needed for DOS doesn't take place here.
That's correct, since SCSI devices handle the translation from logical
sectors to physical sectors (& tracks/heads/etc) for you.
> It is even possible to change such a disk between black and
> white and maybe even green (?) hardware.
You can interchange a hard drive with the NeXT filesystem on it between
all three, and it works with no problems whatsoever.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: Abaton Scan 300/GS support?
Date: 8 Nov 1994 20:58:39 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <39oopv$97p@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
WE NEED software!!! Please read on:
We have an Abaton Scan 300/GS which we've been using with our
Color slab for 2 years.
Anyway, the software "died", so I went to re-install it...
but the sysadmin before me wasn't very organized - I can't
find the original disk.
So I've been trying to get a hold of Abaton - after 2 or 3
disconnected numbers, we found someone who gave use the ph#
for Everex support. (It turns out Abaton was a subsidiary of
Everex Systems, Inc).
Their voice mail said to call Elec. Sus. Labs (805)644-2944 for
Abaton support - but they only do hardware. They said to call
Everex.
Everex says to call their bbs to get support software.
I did - all it has is Msdos & Mac software.
WHERE can I get software for this scanner?
I tried the Scanomatic and ScanX demos... neither are able to
find the scanner.
_ANY_ Help would be appreciated!!!!!
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From: laurent@caladan.fdn.fr (Laurent LECHELLE)
Subject: Re: Neuron 1414
Message-ID: <1994Nov8.202822.533@caladan.fdn.fr>
Sender: laurent@caladan.fdn.fr
Organization: No !
References: <39ljbq$qtv@kelso.abbott.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 20:28:22 GMT
In article <39ljbq$qtv@kelso.abbott.com> zahid@schroeder (Zahid Mahmood)
writes:
>Hi, I've just aquired a Neuron 1414 FaxModem for my NextStation
>non-turbo mono. Is there anyone who can supply me a driver for it
>? or suggest ways of getting it to send/recieve faxes.
>
>Thanks in advance for your help,
>
>Zahid
Zahid,
1) Your article did not contain a from field correct, so I cannot
reply to you directly.
2) Try to contact me by email !
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: ppd for TI microWriter 23?
Message-ID: <Cyywpz.8vM@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <784230346snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> <39mpis$skn@ame2.math.arizona.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 21:22:40 GMT
Yu-Wen Cheng (yucheng@math.arizona.edu) wrote:
: >If anyone has a ppd file for the TI microWriter 23 could they let me know.
: >To save bandwidth, I will ask the first to reply to email me a copy.
: >Paul.
: If anyone has such a ppd file, I'd like to have one copy, too.
Take a look at ftp.adobe.com
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Gekko systems
Date: 8 Nov 1994 21:40:54 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I've just gotten a nice little gift from my department that
might enable me to replace my black box (nice though it may
be) with an HP 712/60. I would of course be putting NS on it.
I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy
people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS. I guess I have a
vague notion that people are pretty pleased generally.
Before I make the plunge, I was hoping to have this decision
reinforced by some of you out in netland.
Thanks much - Jon
--
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Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: arman@futon.SFSU.EDU (Arman Khalili)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ColorStation with 3rd party Monitors
Date: 9 Nov 1994 01:36:42 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Message-ID: <39p93a$gom@news.csus.edu>
it looks that my 17" Fimi is out. I was wondering
if anyone has been successful connecting a 15" or 17"
3rd Party monitor.
I am thinking of using the Mag 17" MG monitor.
Any help is appreciated.
--
Happiness is playing/watching soccer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: katzlbt@necs (Thomas Katzlberger)
Subject: Re: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1994Nov8.232151.13396@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: Vanderbilt University
References: <bchin.783876182@news.andi.org> <39eoh7$d46@core.symnet.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 23:21:51 GMT
Steve Dekorte (dekorte@symnet.net) wrote:
: Bill Chin writes
: > zamora@vnet.ibm.com (Tony Zamora) writes:
: > I won't buy another Seagate if I can avoid it...
: You might want to try a Fujitsu.
: My gig Fujitsu is quiet and hasn't given me any problems.
: Steve
The problem of the loud harddisk may occur because the upper
side of the harddisk touches the balck box from inside. I
weakened the problem by inserting a piece of rubber between them.
(No warranty.)
--
Thomas Katzlberger
katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: 2.88Mb drives on Intel
Message-ID: <CyynyE.3wt@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 18:13:26 GMT
If we buy some IDE 2.88Mb drives and shove them in an Intel machine, do they
work under NEXTSTEP okay?
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu (Douglas Boyce)
Subject: Re: ppd for TI microWriter 23?
Message-ID: <Cyz472.CsD@freenet.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: State University of New York At Buffalo, NY (USA)
References: <39mpis$skn@ame2.math.arizona.edu> <784230346snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:04:13 GMT
In a previous article, yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) says:
>ot-for-mail
>From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng)>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
>Subject: Re: ppd for TI microWriter 23?
>Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:59:40 -0700
>Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
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>Message-ID: <39mpis$skn@ame2.math.arizona.edu>
>References: <784230346snz@cedar.demon.co.uk>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: ame2.math.arizona.edu
>
>>If anyone has a ppd file for the TI microWriter 23 could they let me know.
>>To save bandwidth, I will ask the first to reply to email me a copy.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Paul.
>
>If anyone has such a ppd file, I'd like to have one copy, too.
Anyone attempting to use a properly documented PostScript printer with a
Next System I would suggest to thoroughly search the DOS/Windows/Mac disks
supplied with the printer. Unless something really strange has happened
you will find a file called *.ppd. Once you find it you may have to rename
it when transferring to the NeXT.
--
Doug Boyce
WHAT Software, Inc. (NEXTSTEP software developing and computer reselling)
ak272@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu
NeXTmail and MIME welcome PGP 2.6 public key available upon request
From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Getting NeXTprinter to print PCL5
Date: 4 Nov 1994 17:36:32 -0500
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <39ed1g$a8p@condor.cs.jhu.edu>
Is there a software package that will enable my NeXTstation to print
PCL5 to a NeXTprinter? I'm accessing a remote VAX with Cables, local
printing works but the VAX is sending PCL5 commands to the printer which
the NeXTprinter just spits out onto the paper.
Chris
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ColorStation with 3rd party Monitors
Date: 9 Nov 1994 07:45:40 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39pun4$cgb@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <39p93a$gom@news.csus.edu>
In article <39p93a$gom@news.csus.edu> arman@futon.SFSU.EDU (Arman Khalili)
writes:
> it looks that my 17" Fimi is out. I was wondering
> if anyone has been successful connecting a 15" or 17"
> 3rd Party monitor.
I am successfully using a ViewSonic 21" monitor. You need a 13W3 to BNC
adaptor. I believe SUNs also use 13W3, so there is some chance you may
find one without paying Bell Atlantic's gold plated prices. Good luck.
In terms of the monitor, any BNC multisync which will accept 11?? by 8??
(1152 by 832 ?) at 68 Hz is OK.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 09 Nov 94 09:38:01
Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila>
References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
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Content-Type: text/plain
->I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy
->people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS. I guess I have a
->vague notion that people are pretty pleased generally.
->
->Before I make the plunge, I was hoping to have this decision
->reinforced by some of you out in netland.
->
->Thanks much - Jon
i'm running a 712/80 since june with Nextstep. Quite frankly, compared to my previous turbo-color it's a big progress : much faster basically. There are still some bugs (serial driver e.g) but they 'll be corrected with version 3.3. I had also some problems to find the same applications running (mathematica not delivered, newsgrazer replaced by newsbase and mmedit, and a few other but the situation is vastly improving).
My feeling is Gecko running NeXTSTEP is great.
Jean-FranÛois
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Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere
75013 Paris
France
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tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: NEC 4xi CD-ROM
Message-ID: <RDL.94Nov9050623@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 10:06:23 GMT
Has anyone successfully installed a NEC 4xi CD-ROM on a NS/I system? So far
it has caused me nothing but grief. A message similar to the one below
happens when I do a scsimodes /dev/rsd1a. The info about the drive does appear
after the error message though.
Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL.
Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Mode Sense
Any ideas?
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What hardware to purchase for new computer center?
Date: 9 Nov 1994 03:33:42 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <39pfum$lri@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <39nald$hk2@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <39nald$hk2@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
> HP hardware. Only buy this if you have tens of thousands sitting in your
> wallet and you want the absolute fastest NextStep machine in existence.
Well, one out of two isn't so bad: they are plenty fast. The
prices, however, are much lower than the above post
describes. Here are some prices from about six months
ago:
SAMPLE CONFIGURATIONS : UNIV PRICE
712/60 + 32MB RAM + 260MB Disk + 15" Color Monitor (1024 X 768) = $3,900
712/60 + 32MB RAM + 525MB Disk + 17" Color Monitor (1024 X 768) = $5,119
712/80 + 32MB RAM + 525MB Disk + 17" Color Monitor (1280 X 1024) = $7,361
712/80 + 64MB RAM + 1GB Disk + 19" Color Monitor (1280 X 1024) = $12,314
As you can see, if one purchases the lowest priced config
above, and adds a $1K 17" Sony trinitron display, the VRAM
upgrade for $400, and a 3rd party external (or replace the
internal) 1 GB disk for about $500, one can have a well
equipped HP workstation for under $6,000.
If you can qualify for the HP developer program, you can
get a 50% discount, which would bring those great 712/80
systems into reach...
Do note, however, that the HP keyboard is horrible and
big, and the CPU base is big as well. The again so is the
object.station. Some progress ;-)
--
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Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell XPS P90 Crashing again
Date: 9 Nov 1994 16:56:30 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39quvu$mj1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I thought I had moved past this but obviously not. My Dell
XPS P90 still experiences lockups, kernel panics, and window
server deaths. I remember seeing a post that said the intel
bios revision A10 or something would fix this on certain
pentium/pci machines. Has anyone needed this on a Dell? If
you did, could you tell be how to install the new bios?
This is under 3.2 general release. I also have a DPT ISA
SCSI card, no IDE stuff.
Thanks
John Stanhope
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black hardware SCSI
Date: 9 Nov 1994 17:14:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39r015$bt@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Can someone please explain to me whether making black hardware
SCSI-2-capable requires a hardware modification, or is it just a driver
issue? If it's a driver issue, could DriverKit be used to write a black
SCSI-2 driver? It would really be nice to be able to take advantage of
the SCSI-2 capabilities of new drives.
---
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NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
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USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: borealis@cais2.cais.com (Mborealis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Megapixel D1 value???
Date: 9 Nov 1994 17:48:58 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <39r22a$9jc@news.cais.com>
I have a Megapixel display which is not working. The circuit board has a
cracked and discolored diode (D1). It is not clear what the value of this
diode is. It appears to read:
D44068
I am guessing at the last digit, '8'. It is particularly unreadable. Can
anyone tell me the value of this componant?
Thanks.
Greg Gainer
borealis@cais.com -or- gainer@aepco.com
From: larry@spike.rprc.washington.edu (Larry Shupe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where to buy hard disks?
Date: 9 Nov 1994 18:34:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <39r4o1$r2d@news.u.washington.edu>
We need to replace the internal hard disk in one of
our 040 NextCubes. Could anyone recommend a drive
and a vendor? We are looking for something around
500 megabytes. Any tips on getting such a disk up
and running?
Thanks a megabyte (or perhaps 500)
--
Larry Shupe
lshupe@u.washington.edu
From: pgiagnoc@globalcom.net (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell XPS P90 Crashing again
Date: 9 Nov 1994 19:10:31 GMT
Organization: GlobalCom
Message-ID: <39r6r7$d1a@goodnews.globalcom.net>
References: <39quvu$mj1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In article <39quvu$mj1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) says:
>I thought I had moved past this but obviously not. My Dell
>XPS P90 still experiences lockups, kernel panics, and window
...etc...
I think that you should call Dell and bug them about this some more.
Why? Take a look at a recent Wall Street Journal article with the exact same
machine, where the Computer Tech column, or whatever it is called, mentions
having similar problems, this while running DOS and Windows. Eventually, the
columnist had Dell ship him a new motherboard, etc, and so forth. Finally the problem was
resolved.
Dell is supposed to support NS - here's hoping there is someone there who knows
what is going on.
Good luck, Patrick
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT 400 dpi Laser - Which HP toner can I use?
Date: 9 Nov 1994 19:18:17 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39r79p$hp0@netnews.upenn.edu>
We have an old NeXT Laser Printer (400dpi, black), that seems to
leave smudges on the center of printed pages. Is this due to a
bad or leaking toner cartridge? I believe that a HP toner can be
used in the NeXT printer, but which particular printer toner is
compatible?
I may be way off the issue, since I don't even know whether it is
the toner, or something else. There is a round dial inside the
printer which, I believe adjusts the darkness of the print. Is
the problem in the dial settings?
Anyhow, how much does a replacement toner from NeXT, or Bell Atlantic
run for these days, or which toner, and how much $$ is a compatible
unit from hewlett packard?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Rimon
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What hardware to purchase for new computer center?
Date: 9 Nov 1994 18:54:54 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <39r5tu$jh3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <39pfum$lri@news.ycc.yale.edu>
In article <39pfum$lri@news.ycc.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> > HP hardware. Only buy this if you have tens of thousands sitting in
> > your wallet and you want the absolute fastest NextStep machine in
> > existence.
>
> Well, one out of two isn't so bad: they are plenty fast. The
> prices, however, are much lower than the above post
> describes.
No, two out of two are correct. Please take me in context. My origonal
statement didn't say that there weren't affordable HP's, but that the
affordable HP's were outclassed by pentium machines, leaving only the
really expensive HP's as a good purchase for the few who want stellar
performance.
The only affordable HPs are the 712/60's, and a P90 is a tad faster.
You'll also be restricted to HP peripherals, and these cost $$$.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham)
Subject: PCI NCR+PCI COGENT
Message-ID: <Cz0Kqs.LIG@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:59:15 GMT
Hi,
I m having some trouble in configurating a Pentium PCI/EISA board (ASUS)
with a SCSI PCI NCR board and a Network PCI Cogent board. NCR is ok, but I
can t see the Cogent adapter.
I heard that it was discussed in comp.sys.next.hardware before... Has
anyone the answer?
Thanks folks,
Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch>
Lysis S.A.
Switzerland
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From: eric@aib.com (Eric Youngdale)
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Message-ID: <39rphi$23o@esp22.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: news@aib.com (Usenet/NetNews Administrator)
Organization: AIB Software Inc
References: <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de> <39m6eh$hts@news.cc.utah.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 00:29:38 GMT
In article <39m6eh$hts@news.cc.utah.edu>,
Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu> wrote:
>You should be aware that Linux, if you choose it as a platform, has
>some cache code discrepancies that I don't quite trust when it comes
>to removable media. It doesn't flush the cache on a removable volume's
>data when the volume is removed. There is a finite probability for
>error in doing this. This is not as much of a problem in CDROMs, but
>for writable media it could quickly become a problem.
>
>The tagging mechanism is similar to IBMs JFS, which (incorrectly) assumes
>that a removable volume will be remounted in the same drive it was first
>created in. Multiple drives will drive it nuts, since it assumes the
>drive idenitifier as part of the unique ID for the volume.
Huh??? This is nonsense. If you remove a scsi disk and re-insert it,
the disk will report UNIT_ATTENTION the next time you attempt to access it.
The scsi disk drivers notice this, and automatically invalidate all of the
buffers associated with the drive.
Inodes are automatically flushed when a device is unmounted. This is
because you could umount, make a new filesystem and remount, and the cached
inodes would be incorrect.
>This is especially evident if you are trying to do CD mastering with a
>R/W ISO9660 volume and a CDROM one-off and both are on removable media.
Irrelevant. The drive will report UNIT_ATTENTION and the buffers
will be flushed.
Non-scsi devices, such as a mitsumi, also report disk change,
and the buffers are similarly flushed when the media is changed.
-Eric
From: eshneken@glue.umd.edu (Edward A. Shnekendorf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.edu
Subject: Need Information on NeXT related issues
Date: 9 Nov 1994 20:07:24 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <39ra5s$7a@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Keywords: next, computer, help
Hello,
I'm working on a proposal (for a class) to replace the NeXT workstations in
the general computer labs at the University of Maryland with some other (yet
undetermined) workstation type.
I am primarily looking for information regarding:
1) maintenance and parts availibility issues with the NeXTs.
2) cost effectivness for a general-purpose educational laboratory.
3) benefits/drawbacks for use in a university laboratory.
If anyone is experienced with these issues, I would greatly appreciate some
email from you so that I could ask you a few questions. Also, if anyone is
aware of any journal or magazine articles which may address some of these
topics, I would also appreciate if you could mail me a cite (doesn't have to
be complete or anything -- if you just remember what magazine and the
approximate date I can do the digging) that would also be great.
I don't typically read this newsgroup so please direct all replies to:
eshneken@eng.umd.edu.
thanks in advance for your help,
Ed.
--
Edward A. Shnekendorf | Computer Science '96
NET: eshneken@eng.umd.edu | University of Maryland
WEB: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~eshneken/ | at College Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: intrepid@netcom.com (Intrepid Traveller)
Subject: Diamond Stealth 64 PCI Supported?
Message-ID: <intrepidCz10vK.AJz@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 00:47:43 GMT
Are there any third party drivers for the Diamond Stealth 64 PCI that you guys
know of for NeXTStep 486?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Dudney_Bill@pcp.ca (Bill Dudney)
Subject: Internal Fax/Modem Cards
Message-ID: <1994Nov9.221319.9741@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 22:13:19 GMT
Does anyone have specific experience with an internal fax modem on a white
box? I am looking to get an internal fax modem for my PC and I would like
to be able to use it from within NS. Any specifics would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-bd-
From: burback@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Daniel M Burback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ultrastor SCSI Driver for NS/FIP ???
Date: 10 Nov 1994 01:19:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39rsei$be6@uwm.edu>
Hello,
A few months ago I thought I saw a post for an Ultrastor
SCSI driver for NS/FIP. Is this driver still available?
If yes, which version of NS does it support and where can
I find it?
Thanks in advance,
Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scollins@da_vinci.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (Steven Collins)
Subject: DOS/NEXT disk partition conflict
Message-ID: <Cz0y2E.JpA@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com>
Sender: news@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 23:47:01 GMT
I have installed a DOS partion on my NEXT system.
DOS boots up fine but when I start MS-Windows
the video starts to switch but then jumps right
back to DOS. I thought it was a Windows/driver
problem but could find any problems. When I installed
a DOS only partion, Windows came up fine.
Any ideas?
Thanks Steve
--
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TTYDSP and dialing in
Date: 10 Nov 1994 01:47:59 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <39ru4f$png@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
I need a hand here.
I've got TTYDSP on one of my NeXTs (black slab running NS3.0)
for the high speed serial port, and a 28.8 modem attached to it.
My problem is, I can't get it to accept calls. Before TTYDSP,
it would answer fine, but now when I try to call in, the modems
connect, I get garbage, and the line is promptly dropped.
According to the TTYDSP manual, it should be as simple as
adding an appropriate entry into /etc/ttys, which I've done.
Dialing out is not a problem.
Anybody out there using TTYDSP with similar experiences
and/or suggestions?
Thanks
Eugene
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: poethko@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Andreas -Blubber- Poethko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: INTEL PLATO + PCI NCR-Contr. w. BIOS -> Problems
Date: 10 Nov 1994 11:48:57 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39t1b9$dci@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Originator: poethko@hphalle0f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
HI,
I want to get NeXTSTEP, but I'm a little worried about something my vendor told
me. He said, that there are known problems with NCR-PCI-SCSI-controller.
He could not make sure my controller ist running correctly or at all. He saids
that it is acording to the BIOS (of the mainboard and the NCR-controller). But he
couldn't, or didn't want to tell with versions are running and which not.
Now my question does anybody know if there is a problem like this, which version
is running, which not? Who is running a simular system?
Here my complete system:
INTEL PLATO with INTEL PENTIUM 90
32 MB RAM
1,06 IBM SCSI HARDDISK
NCR(810)-SCSI controller with BIOS
ATI MACH 64 4MB VRAM
TOSHIBA 4401-SCSI CD-ROM
MUSTEK PARAGON CFS 600 (Are Scanner supported in anyway by NEXT..)
(Are there any prgs. (cheap))
HP DESKJET 550 C (Which is the best printer-driver to use (cheap of course)
(Is there anything else but ghostview)
CREATIX 14400bps (Any modem or fax - software availible)
AT-BUS-250 MB Streamer (What about backup software)
(Quite nice system, took quite a long time to build up.)
Who can help??
Please mail and sorry about the worse english, my knowledge is quite rotten.
Thanks to all,
Andreas Poethko <poethko@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@deltos.uucp (Steven R. Staton)
Subject: Dual IDE drives and automounts
Message-ID: <Cz1Aqr.2zt@deltos.uucp>
Organization: Deltos Fleet Computing
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 04:20:51 GMT
I have not been able to get NS to function on a Promise VLB caching controller
and two Maxtor drives (LXT-7345A and the older LXT-340A -- both IDE). The 7345
currently has a NS/3.2 and MS-DOS partition, and the 340A has a similar setup.
Regardless of which drive I boot from, NS chokes when doing the automount of
the other drive.
How do I disable automounting of the other disk? If I could reliably do this,
I could get by with a small DOS boot partition on drive 1 and the rest of DOS
on drive 2. Is there some magic to getting NS to like dual IDE drives? I've
tried variations on matching spindle speeds, and making each drive a sync
slave or master.
--
Steven R. Staton | The two most common things
Deltos Fleet Computing | in the Universe are
steve@deltos.com | Dark Matter and Stupidity
--------------------------*---------------------------------
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Disk benchmark results
Date: 10 Nov 1994 00:51:19 -0500
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39sccn$omv@jujube.cs.umd.edu>
Howdy,
I just did some benchmarking on NS 3.2 with iozone (using 40 MB
files). My primary reason was to justify the cost of a faster
SCSI controller (from a Adaptec 1542C to a BusLogic 445C).
While I got a 34% increase in read speed (not as high as I hoped),
I can now finally use my PAS16 sound card (which, BTW, worked nicely
under NT but not under NS).
Anyway, I configured my BL-445C to use burst mode VESA and synchronis SCSI.
And I'm using the latest BusLogic drivers from NeXT.
Are there any hints to making it faster?
Comments:
1. The NeXTstation turbo had (by far) the fastest write, and the slowest
read. Why?
2. The ALR and Dell both have a Micropolis 4110. The only difference
was the controller. Why would the PCI card be so much faster
for reads? The bus speeds (VL vs. PCI) are about the same.
Did Talus write a really good driver? Does the NCR chipset make
the difference?
ALR Evolution V (P60) with 40MB RAM
Micropolis 4110 with Adaptec 1542c
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...71.273688 seconds
Reading the file...30.450088 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
588478 bytes/second for writing the file
1377435 bytes/second for reading the file
Fujitsu 2263 with Adaptec 1542c
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...118.013214 seconds
Reading the file...72.854759 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
355409 bytes/second for writing the file
575707 bytes/second for reading the file
Micropolis 4110 with BusLogic 445C
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...70.050909 seconds
Reading the file...22.736977 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
598750 bytes/second for writing the file
1844706 bytes/second for reading the file
Fujitsu 2263 with BusLogic 445C
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...117.770313 seconds
Reading the file...74.559772 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
356142 bytes/second for writing the file
562542 bytes/second for reading the file
NeXTstation Turbo with 32MB RAM
Fujitsu 2263
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...54.693479 seconds
Reading the file...133.355643 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
766874 bytes/second for writing the file
314520 bytes/second for reading the file
Dell XPS-90 (P90) with 32MB RAM
Micropolis 4110 with NCR PCI SCSI controller (825) (Talus drivers 1.02)
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...71.938343 seconds
Reading the file...14.566971 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
583041 bytes/second for writing the file
2879324 bytes/second for reading the file
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: dwatola@sinkhole.jpl.nasa.gov (David A. Watola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: why is my hp 6400/2000dc dat drive so slow?
Date: 10 Nov 1994 07:07:52 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Galileo S-Band Mission
Message-ID: <39sgs8$42g@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
it just took 2 hours and 41 minutes to transfer 1.74e9 bytes of data to
the hp 6400/2000dc dat drive hooked up to my 735/125. the manual for the
drive says that it can do 732 kbytes/sec, but i am measuring less than 180
kbytes/sec. on the other hand, i get really *good* transfer rates to disk.
is there *anything* i can do to speed this puppy up? or am i doomed by a
miserable tape device driver.... ?
dave watola
dwatola@sinkhole.jpl.nasa.gov
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Date: 10 Nov 1994 09:26:17 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
Message-ID: <39sovp$8kr@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
References: <39aq8q$12d2@news.manassas.ibm.com>
In article <39aq8q$12d2@news.manassas.ibm.com> writes:
> The hard drive in my NeXTstation (non-turbo) has been making a loud
> whine. This isn't a new problem, it's been like this for a couple of
> years, but I've finally decided to see if there's anything I can do to
> make it quieter. It's a Seagate ST1480 400MB internal hard drive, if
> that makes any difference. Has anyone else had this problem? What,
> if anything, can be done? I've just moved, and the computer now
> resides in a corner of the family room, so it's harder to ignore the
> problem now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>
I had this problem too, with the same drive. The cause in my case was wear on
the drive bearings, and the solution was to buy a new drive (as the old one was
potentially unstable). However, I have boxed the old one and now use it as an
external drive (so I only have to stand the noise for short periods).
BTW I replaced it with a Quantum 1Gb which is fast, quiet and last but not
least to a Scotsman, cheap!
--
Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926
Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University
Scotland FK9 4LA
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2.88Mb drive for NeXTstation colour
Message-ID: <39sp5c$8kr@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J Baird)
Date: 10 Nov 1994 09:29:16 GMT
Organization: University of Stirling
A simple (=dumb) query:
the floppy drive (2.88Mb) on my 68040 NeXTstation has just died. Can I buy a
bog-standard one from a normal supplier, or is there a NeXT-specific drive? If
the latter, where can I get it in the UK?
--
Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926
Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133
Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
Stirling University
Scotland FK9 4LA
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From: ups@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.admin,comp.answers,news.answers
Subject: Uninterruptible Power Source FAQ
Followup-To: comp.misc
Date: 10 Nov 1994 13:09:25 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39t625$hi6@phoebe.jpl.nasa.gov>
Summary: Answers to FAQs about Uninterruptable Power Sources (UPS)
Originator: root@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Archive-name: UPS-faq
Version: 1.7
Uninterruptable Power Source (UPS) FAQ.
VERSION 1.7, October 18, 1994.
Sections:
01: What is this document all about?
01: What is this document?
02: How is this document made available?
03: Who maintains this?
04: Where did this information come from?
05: How can I contribute?
06: How may this document be distributed?
07: Got anything else you'd like to add?
08: Glossary.
02: What is a UPS and how does is work?
01: What is a UPS?
02: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
03: Vendor X says that (description) is a UPS, is it?
04: Describe the types of UPS's?
05: How can a UPS help me?
06: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
07: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running?
08: What is a "good" UPS?
09: Support contracts on UPS's.
10: Self maintenance tips.
11: Is a UPS a glorified power strip?
12: How important is the UPS output waveform?
03: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
01: Can a UPS shut the computer down when power is low?
02: Can I write my own shutdown routines?
03: What freely distributable solutions are there?
04: No UPS software works on my machines, what to do?
05: What other software is out there.
04: How big a UPS do I need?
01: How are UPS sizes determined?
02: What VA rating do I need?
03: How do I determine this?
04: What else should I consider?
05: Can I use an UPS with a laser printer?
06: What UPS sizes do you use on what equipment?
05: Specific manufacturer's info.
01: What vendors are there?
02: UPS Hardware.
03: UPS Software only.
04: Other companies.
06: Bibliography
07: Acknowledgments
-----------------------------
01:
TOPIC: What is this document all about?
01.01
Q: What is this document?
A: This is a FAQ document on Uninterruptable Power Sources. It is
intended to provide a starting point for those people that want
to find out what they are, what they do, and what's available.
Note that most of this document is very US-centric. The power
numbers, companies and services all emphasize US consumer
needs. Sorry, but that's what I have to work with. All the
principles discussed here should be applicable just about
everywhere.
01.02
Q: How is this document made available?
A: Currently, its "home" is comp.misc. It is also crossposted to
comp.unix.admin, comp.sys.sun.hardware, comp.sys.hp.hardware,
comp.sys.sgi.hardware, comp.sys.next.hardware,
comp.sys.ibm.hardware, comp.sys.dec, comp.answers and
news.answers. This posting is automated and will occur on or
near the 10th of each month. If there are other groups to
which this document should be posted, please let me know, but
if I post it to every group where UPS questions get asked, that
would be a lot of groups. I'm open to suggestions.
This document is also available via anonymous FTP. The master
sits on navigator.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.23.82) in pub/doc/faq
as the file UPS.faq. It is also available via anonymous FTP
from rtfm.mit.edu in:
pub/usenet-by-group/comp.misc/Uninterruptable_Power_Source_FAQ
01.03
Q: Who maintains this?
A: Right now, this document is maintained by Nick Christenson. My
preferred email address is npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov, and I
would like it very much if questions regarding this document
could have the word "UPS or UPS FAQ" or some such in the Subject
line. Note: I am maintaining this on my own time, so please
don't be upset if it takes a while for me to respond to your
queries. Also none of the information in here represents the
views or has the blessing of any organization whatsoever. The
maintainer of the FAQ is to be held solely responsible for its
contents.
01.04
Q: Where did this information come from?
A: Thankfully, many people have rallied to my cry to fill in
the many gaps in my original draft. This is now a group work,
although I claim full responsibility for misstatements and
inaccuracies.
01.05
Q: How can I contribute?
A: You should mail new information, corrections, suggestions, etc.
to the current maintainer of this FAQ. If you provide a suggestion,
make sure you reference where the information is located in the
document. I guarantee that suggestions of the form "Change the
word 'always' to 'almost always' in the part about surge suppression."
will be ignored.
01.06
Q: Are there any restrictions on distribution of this document?
A: This document is copyright by the author. You are encouraged
to distribute this document for any non-commercial purpose
as long as the contents remain unchanged and a pointer to
an up-to-date version is included.
01.07
Q: Got anything else you'd like to add?
A: Yes, now that you mention it. The people who contribute to this
document can speak only about equipment they have experience with.
This may reflect a bias toward or against certain brands, features,
functions, etc.. Please keep in mind that the suggestions, brand
names and functions here are by no means exhaustive, or even
necessarily applicable to your situation. Also, if you have
information that is not in this document, please submit it to
the maintainer listed above. If you submit information, please
say whether you'd like it to be attributed to you or not. I am
more than glad to give credit to the fine people who helped with
this document, but I want to respect the anonymity of those
people who would prefer it.
One more caveat: While the principles of UPS design and
maintenance are likely to be fairly universal, the power
figures in this FAQ are *very* US-centric. Sorry, but
they're the only numbers I have.
01.08
Q: Glossary
A: This was contributed almost entirely by some kind soul. I just
cleaned it up a bit.
Blackout: Complete loss of power. Some literature considers a voltage
drop below about 80V to be a blackout as well since most
equipment will not operate below these levels.
Sag or Brownout: Decrease in voltage levels which can last for
periods ranging from fractions of a second to hours. Can be
caused by heavy equipment coming on line such as shop tools,
elevators, compressors etc. Also occurs when utility companies
deliberately do this to cope with peak load times.
Spike: An instantaneous and tremendous increase in voltage often
caused by a direct lightning strike on a power line or when
power returns after a blackout.
Surge: An substantial increase in voltage lasting a small fraction
of a second, often caused when high powered appliances such as
air conditioners are switched off.
EMI/RFI Noise: ElectroMagnetic Interference and Radio Frequency
Interference. Caused by, inter alia, lightning, generators,
radio transmitters, industrial equipment.
MOV: Metal Oxide Varistors used to control spikes. These are
common in Power Strips. If you see more than two, you likely
have a fairly decent Power Strip. They look like largish disk
capacitors.
Inverter: Circuitry that converts DC battery power to AC power
required by most computer equipment.
Surge Protector: Circuitry consisting of MOVs, capacitors, rod-core
inductors etc. for suppressing surges and spikes usually embedded
in a power strip.
Line Conditioner: A transformer that attempts to smooth out
fluctuations in input voltage to provide near uniform output
voltage or voltage waveform.
02:
TOPIC: What is a UPS and how does is work?
02.01
Q: What is a UPS?
A: An Uninterruptable Power Source is a device that sits between
a power supply (e.g. a wall outlet) and a device (e.g. a computer)
to prevent undesired features of the power source (outages, sags,
surges, bad harmonics, etc.) from the supply from adversely
affecting the performance of the device.
02.02
Q: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
A: I pronounce it "ups", but most of the literature seems to favor
"you pee ess", since they use "a UPS" instead of "an UPS". This
document will try to follow the literature.
02.03
Q: Vendor X says that (fill in description) is a UPS, but it's
different that what you describe above. Who's right?
A: There really is no standard definition of what a UPS is.
Anything ranging from a 9 volt battery backup in a clock radio
to a building/compound wide backup generator has been called
a UPS by someone. The majority of this document refers to
objects larger than a beer can and smaller than a desk that
help devices remain temporarily operational when changes to the
power they receive would otherwise interrupt their function.
Maintaining power to a minicomputer (like a VAX 11) is beyond
the scope of this document. This FAQ deals with UPS equipment
that can be installed by a computer owner/administrator. If you
have requirements that large, you need to talk to a qualified
electrician.
02.04
Q: Can you give me some more information on this?
A: (Kindly provided by Don Deal, Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu, my additions
are in [square brackets] )
The UPS industry is made up of many manufacturers, and there is
a lack of standard terms within the industry. I think this
sometimes borders on deliberate misdirection. (It's a jungle out
there!)
There are basically three different types of devices, all of
which are occasionally passed off as UPSs.
1. Standby power supply (SPS). In this type of supply, power is
usually derived directly from the power line, until power fails.
After power failure, a battery powered inverter turns on to
continue supplying power. Batteries are charged, as necessary,
when line power is available. This type of supply is sometimes
called an "offline" UPS.
The quality and effectiveness of this class of devices varies
considerably; however, they are generally quite a bit cheaper than
"true" UPSs. The time required for the inverter to come online,
typically called the switchover time, varies by unit. While some
computers may be able to tolerate long switchover times, your
mileage may vary. [ Some articles in the trade press have claimed
that their testing shows that modern PCs can withstand transfer
times of 100ms or more. Most UPS units claim a transfer time to
battery of about 4ms. Note that even if a computer can stay up
for 100ms, it doesn't mean that 100ms switchover is okay. Damage
can still be done to a computer or data on it even if it stays
up. ]
Other features to look for in this class of supplies is line
filtering and/or other line conditioners. Since appliances
connected to the supply are basically connected directly from
the power line, SPSs provide relatively poor protection from
line noise, frequency variations, line spikes, and brownouts.
[Some SPS's claim to have surge/spike suppression circuitry as
well as transformers to "boost" voltage without switching to
the battery if a modest voltage drop occurs. An example is the
"APC Smart UPS" which claims it will switch to this boosting mode
if voltage drops below 103V (from the normal expected 120V) and
switches to battery only at 90V and below. This, it is claimed,
allows operation of the equipment indefinitely under brownout
conditions as long as voltage does not drop below 90V. I have
not tested this, and would be interested in independent data.
There are other vendors products that make similar claims.]
2. Hybrid UPS systems. I only know one vendor who sells them -
Best Power, Inc. The theory behind these devices is fairly simple.
When normal operating line power is present, the supply conditions
power using a ferroresonant transformer. This transformer maintains
a constant output voltage even with a varying input voltage and
provides good protection against line noise. The transformer also
maintains output on its secondary briefly when a total outage occurs.
Best claims that their inverter then goes online so quickly that
it is operating without any interruption in power. Other UPS
vendors maintain that the transition is less than seamless, but
then again it's not in their best interest to promote Best's products.
Best has a sizable part of the UPS market.
[ Note: According to some sources, ferroresonant transformers in an
UPS system can interact with ferroresonant transformers in your
equipment and produce unexpected results. The Moral: Again, test
before you buy. -npc ]
3. What I call "true" UPS systems, those supplies that continuously
operate from an inverter. Obviously, there is no switchover time,
and these supplies generally provide the best isolation from power
line problems. The disadvantages to these devices are increased
cost, increased power consumption, and increased heat generation.
Despite the fact that the inverter in a "true" UPS is always on,
the reliability of such units does not seem to be affected. In
fact, we have seen more failures in cheaper SPS units. [ Note,
though, that given the same quality inverter, you'd expect the
one that runs least to last longest. ]
02.05
Q: How can it help me?
A: A UPS has internal batteries to guarantee that continuous power
is provided to the equipment even if the power supply stops
providing power. Of course the UPS can provide power for a while,
typically a few minutes, but that is often enough to ride out
power company glitches or short outages.
Advantages:
1) Computer jobs don't stop because the power fails.
2) Users not inconvenienced by computer shutting down.
3) Equipment does not incur the stress of another (hard)
power cycle.
4) Data isn't lost because a machine shut down without
doing a "sync" or equivalent to flush cached or
real time data.
02.06
Q: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
A: A UPS traditionally can perform the following functions:
1) Absorb relatively small power surges.
2) Smooth out noisy power sources.
3) Continue to provide power to equipment during line sags.
4) Provide power for some time after a blackout has occurred.
In addition, some UPS or UPS/software combinations provide the
following functions:
1) Automatic shutdown of equipment during long power
outages.
2) Monitoring and logging of the status of the power supply.
3) Display the Voltage/Current draw of the equipment.
4) Restart equipment after a long power outage.
5) Display the voltage currently on the line.
6) Provide alarms on certain error conditions.
7) Provide short circuit protection.
02.07
Q: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running after the power
goes?
A: How big a UPS do you have and what kind of equipment does it
protect? For most typical computer workstations, one might
have a UPS that was rated to keep the machine alive through
a 15 minute power loss. If you need a machine to survive
hours without power should probably look at a more robust
power backup solution. Even if a UPS has a very small load,
it must still operate it's DC (battery) to AC converter,
which costs power. A rough extrapolation from APC's
documentation, leads me to guess that a 2000 VA UPS can
operate it's own converter (with no extra load) for just
over 8 hours. A 1250 VA UPS could run its converter for
about 5. These are *very* rough guesses based on information
provided by one vendor for one vendor.
02.08
Q: Given the same vendor claims, how can I tell a "good" quality
UPS from a "poor" quality UPS?
A: Testing, testing, testing. I can't emphasize this enough. There
are many good and bad units out there that call themselves UPS's.
There are many good units that are wrong for your situation.
Caveat Emptor.
Some properties you might look for are:
1) Sinusoidal power output. In general, the closer the AC output
of the UPS is to a sine wave, the better it is for your equipment.
Many UPS units, especially the cheaper ones, deviate a great
deal from a sinusoidal output. Some of them generate square
waves. Waveform effects are dealt with in section 2.12.
2) Does the UPS have a manual bypass switch? If the UPS is
broken or is being serviced, can you pass power through it to
your equipment? The last thing you want is for a broken UPS to
be the cause of extra downtime.
3) The more information about a UPS's operation you can get from
watching the unit itself, the better. How much power (or
percentage load) the equipment is drawing, how much battery
life is left and indications of the input power quality are
all very useful.
4) Some newer UPS's can communicate with their monitoring software
via network connection and SNMP! This is wonderful *if* your
network is on a UPS! Also, beware, I have heard of dealers
advertising "Network UPS" monitoring where the network is
the normal serial connection (no SLIP or PPP).
5) Does the UPS vendor offer support/maintenance contracts. If
they don't even offer them, I would suspect the quality of the
equipment.
If you do have a UPS that does not output a sinusoidal waveform,
some manufacturers *strongly* urge you to not put a surge protector
between the UPS and the computer. The surge protector might mistake
the non-sine waveform as a power surge and try to send it to ground.
This could be bad for your UPS. I don't know if this has happened
or not, but I wouldn't chance it.
02.09
Q: Should I make sure I have a support/maintenance contract for my
UPS systems?
A: Some people strongly recommend this, but to be honest, I don't
know how important it is. I haven't had any UPS's long enough
to have enough of them fail to know what the failure modes are
likely to be. Some people, with more experience than I in these
matters, insist that a UPS support/maintenance contract is as
important as your computer support/maintenance contract. I can't
argue with them. In any case, it's almost certainly worth
pricing at any rate.
02.10
Q: What sort of maintenance can I perform myself?
A: One good thing you might want to do is periodically test the
UPS's and their failure modes. A good time to do this might be
right after after a periodic level 0 backup. Nobody is logged
in and you've got full backups of the machines. Throw the
circuit breaker with the UPS on it to simulate and outage and
see how the transition goes. Note that some UPS vendors suggest
that testing an UPS by pulling the plug from the wall is *not*
a good idea (Tripp Lite is one of them). These UPS units like
to have a good idea of what ground looks like. It is likely that
unplugging just about any UPS for a short amount of time would
not be too dangerous (don't take my word for it, though!), but
in all cases, throwing a circuit breaker would be a better thing
to do.
It might be useful to install a GFI (Ground Fault Interrupter)
socket to facilitate this testing without having to pull the plug,
especially if you don't have your UPS protected machines on
an isolated circuit (which you probably should). These are the
sockets found in most modern kitchens and bathrooms with a red
and a black button. You push the latter to cut power and the
former to restore power.
Those UPS units that use lead-acid batteries (that's most of
them, I'm told) do not have a battery memory and should be run
dry as few times as possible. It's probably not a bad investment
to do this once on one UPS out of a largish batch to learn how
much UPS time you can expect in a real power outage. Note:
depending on the manufacturer, UPS batters can be expected to
last between about 1 and 5 years before they ought to be replaced.
As a UPS gets older, its battery life will become shorter. Of
course there's no way to reliably test how long it is without
running the battery down and you don't want to do that because
they have lead acid batteries. <Sigh.> All of these are very
good reasons to get a support contract for them that includes
periodic battery replacement. At the very least, you can figure
that the batteries will still be good at the end of the UPS
warranty figure, so that's a good place to start guesswork.
02.11
Q: Isn't a UPS just a glorified power strip/surge protector with
some batteries and a little power conditioning thrown in?
A: Basically. It's also got a power inverter and some other circuitry.
It may also have a timer, thermometer or other gadgets.
02.12
Q: How important is the UPS output waveform?
A: That's a good question, and one is worthy of some debate. One
school of thought holds that one should always run equipment on
the best approximation of sinusoidal input that one can, and that
deviations produce harmonics which may either be interpreted as
signal if they get through a power supply, or may actually damage
the equipment. Another school holds that since almost all
computers use switching-type power supplies, which only draw
power at or near the peaks of the waveforms, the shape of the
input power waveform is not important. Who's right? I don't
know. My *opinion* is that sinusoidal output is worth the
extra money, especially for on-line UPS systems that continually
provide their waveform to the computer. Also, if you don't *know*
that your equipment has a switching-type power supply, you might
want to think twice before buying a low quality UPS.
[ Some of this information from a great article in the October
1994 issue of LAN Magazine, check it out. -npc ]
03:
TOPIC: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
03.01
Q: If the power is out for a long time, I would like to have my
computer automatically shut itself down gracefully before the
UPS batteries die. Can I do this?
A: Yes. Most UPS manufacturers support software that will do this
for some UPS's on at least some platforms. Ask your UPS vendor
for details.
Q: Okay, how about restarting the system for me once power returns?
A: Fewer software products do this, but many do. Again, ask your
vendor. I do not know of any freely distributable products that
will do this. It doesn't mean that they can't be built, but
vendor software is cheap enough (usually) that it's probably not
worth building.
03.02
Q: How does it work? I'm a starving (fill in the blank) and I really
don't want to pay for software unless I absolutely have to.
A: Usually, there is a serial connection running from a UPS into
your computer. The UPS sends information along the serial line
as it goes. If you can decode which pins contain which information,
how the information is formatted and figure out what it wants to
hear from the computer side, you're all set. Make sure you have
the right serial cable and know how the pins map between DB9 and
DB25 as both your computer and your UPS may take either.
Since UPS units with network based monitoring capabilities are
appearing on the market, we can hopefully get something that will
communicate with those units.
Here is a skeleton script provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com.
Definitely check this out as a starting point, but don't expect
it to do anything meaningful without some work.
---------start upsd.sh-------------
#! /bin/sh
# Shut down system in case of extended power failure
# This should be the serial port to which the UPS is connected
# This port must be set to block on open until the DCD line
# is asserted - many UNIX systems have this determined by
# the minor device number, if not, see if there is some way
# to enable this behavior on your system
PORT=/dev/ttya
# Ok, this should block until there is a power failure
: > $PORT
# If we reach this point, we've lost power
wall << EOF
The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!
EOF
# call shutdown (or init or whatever)
exec shutdown
-----------end--------------------
03.03
Q: Hmmm... that sounds kinda complicated. Has someone already done
this?
A: Any solution would almost certainly be vendor specific. However,
some brave souls have provided partial functionality for certain
vendors' UPS's. I don't know the original source, but I have a
copy available for anonymous FTP at navigator.jpl.nasa.gov in
the pub/src/UPS directory as upsd.tar.Z. I haven't tried it and
I don't honestly know if it even works.
Note: Different UPS's produce different sorts of signals. Just
installing this already built package may require a great deal of
work. The cabling can be complicated, etc.. I would be
interested in hearing where this software does/doesn't work.
Another good example, that probably works straight away for
SunOS 4.1.X machines using APC Back-UPS devices, is also
available on navigator for anonymous FTP in the pub/src/UPS
directory is pf.c. It was written by Ronald Florence
(ron@mlfarm.com). It looks like a nice framework for expansion
to other OS platforms and UPS implementations. Give it a try.
03.04
Q: I can't find monitoring software that will work on my configuration.
What should I do?
A: Well, it seems you have a few choices:
1) Build your own. See item 03.02.
2) Use something freely distributable. See item 03.03.
3) Lean on your UPS vendor to port to your platform.
4) Try a different vendor that supports your platform.
See item 05.01.
03.05
Q: What other software is out there?
A: Software packages for UPS machines are getting more sophisticated.
Most provide some level of power and status monitoring, but
lately there are more GUI's, more interactive packages, SNMP
support, and even call-out paging. See the software section
05.03 for more info.
04:
TOPIC: How big a UPS do I need?
04.01
Q: How are the "sizes" of UPS's determined?
A: Typically, a UPS has a VA rating. The VA rating is the maximum
number of Volts * Amps it can deliver. The VA rating is not the
same as the power drain (in Watts) of the equipment. Computers
are notoriously non-resistive. A typical PF (power factor:
Watts/VA) for workstations may be as low as 0.6, which means that
if you record a drain of 100 Watts, you need a UPS with a VA
rating of 167. Some literature suggests that 0.7 may be a
good conversion factor, but this will depend heavily on the
machine. WARNING: Don't take my word for it! Note: Some UPS's
can continue to deliver power if the VA rating is exceeded, they
merely can't provide above their VA rating if the power goes.
Some can't provide power above their VA rating at all. Some may
do something really nasty if you try. In any case, I *strongly*
recommend not doing this under *any* circumstances.
04.02
Q: How can I tell what VA rating I need for my equipment?
A: First, when possible, get VA rather than wattage ratings. See
Q04.01 above.
There are a couple of ways:
1) Direct measurement. You can get equipment to measure
the current draw of your equipment directly. You may
or may not have access to this. If you are part of an
organization that has it's own facilities/electrical
type people, they're likely to be able to do this. They
might help you out if you ask nice.
2) Compare notes. If you know someone with the same setup
you're using, ask them what they use and how close they
are to the maximum VA rating.
3) Use a chart. Most vendors can help you out for common
equipment. If you have an unusual setup, or mix
vendors a lot, you're probably out of luck here.
4) Use the equipment rating. Most pieces of computer
equipment have a power rating on some back panel. This
number is usually high, as it is necessary for the
manufacturer to play it safe or they'll get sued.
Note: Method 1 is by far the best, method 2 and 3 are secondary,
method 4 is usually overkill, but pretty safe. There are some
examples in section 4.6, but the information is probably worth
what you paid for it :-)
04.03
Q: Hmmm... seems like a tough thing to determine.
A: Yeah, it can be. It's also very important. If you get a UPS
that's too big, then you've overpaid, but your equipment can
survive a longer outage. If you get a UPS that's too small,
then you could be in deep trouble. Therefore, I recommend that
you be conservative in buying these things, unfortunately, this
costs money.
04.04
Q: What else should I consider?
A: It would be nice to know how long your site's typical power
outages are. In some places, with nice weather and a flaky
power grid, the power is almost never out for more than 5 minutes,
but this could happen quite frequently. In this case, you may
as well use a UPS with a VA rating close to your equipment
rating with no extra batteries. If your area has longer outages,
in the half hour or hour range, as is often the case in
thunderstorm country, you can either buy UPS's with multiples
of the VA rating of the equipment, since oversizing a VA rating
for a UPS has the effect of lengthening the amount of time your
equipment can stay up in case of a power outage, or you can buy
additional battery units for a smaller UPS. You can probably
get away with doing simple math to determine how much longer a
larger UPS will keep your equipment running, but I recommend
running a few tests before committing to a large purchase
order. Also, your UPS vendor will almost certainly be glad
to help you size the equipment you need. If all else fails
and you guess wrong, or move equipment to a location with
different power status, you may be really, really glad if you
bought a UPS that can have additional battery packs added.
04.05
Q: How about I use one of these UPS thingies for a laser printer?
A: Don't *ever* do this. If you ever measured the current draw
of a laser printer during startup (and during printing) you'd
be stunned at what it pulls. All UPS manufacturers I know of
tell you not to do this.
Okay, I have to back down from this. I know APC, just as an
example, now does rate some of their UPS units for use with
certain laser printers. Not that I think this is a good
idea, mind you. In general, they are difficult to size and
rarely do they require the same level of uptime as servers.
In any case, don't do this without specific approval of
your UPS vendor.
04.06
Q: So, what sorts of UPS sizes do you use on your equipment?
A: BIG DISCLAIMER. I disclaim everything about these figures.
At best, they are very, very rough. Heck, I may be lying.
Don't trust them. Here they are anyway.
Note also, this is what the equipment apparently PULLS, not
the UPS sizes that are on them. Generally, I've been using
UPS's that are about 2X the VA ratings shown. At the very
least, I would using UPS sized 1.5X the VA ratings here.
400 VA:
Sparc 2 with 3 600 MB disks, 1 200 MB disk, 1 exabyte 8200
tape drive, 19" color monitor.
600 VA:
HP 750 with 4 1.3 GB disks, internal 4mm tape drive and internal
CD-ROM drive, external disk cabinet and 19" color monitor.
500 VA:
SPARC 2GX clone. 1 1.2 GB disk, 4 2.0 GB disks, 2 tape drives,
1 CD-ROM drive, "big" monitor.
300 VA:
Sparc 2 clone with 100W power supply, internal 424 disk, 16"
color monitor, external 1 GB disk drive.
Another word of warning, don't assume that power requirements
scale with compute power and number of peripherals, ESPECIALLY
if they are different architectures. Older equipment, CPU's,
disks, monitors, whatever almost universally requires more
power than new equipment. For example, it seems that an HP
9000/425e with 1 internal 420 MB disk and 19" color monitor
pulls a lot more power than a HP 9000/715 with an internal
1.3 GB disk, CD-ROM drive and more modern 19" color monitor.
Again, the moral is don't assume.
05:
TOPIC: Specific manufacturer's information.
05.01
Q: What vendors are there and what do they produce?
A: Here is a very incomplete list, based only on what I know.
Please give me information to expand it. I make no claims
as to the accuracy of this information. It is mostly based
on personal recommendations and vendor propoganda.
Note: The October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine has a great
vendor list. I have used it to update many of the entries
here. However, there is a lot of information available
there that I don't have space to include here. This
article is an excellent starting point for comparative pricing
on UPS equipment.
05.02 UPS Hardware (and software) manufacturers:
Company: Acme Electric Corp.
43 Argow Place
Nanuet, NY 10954
US Phone: 1-716-968-2400
1-800-833-1373
UPS Products:
250 to 1400 VA standby UPS products, 1000 and 2000 VA
on-line UPS products. Shutdown/startup and SNMP
software for LAN Manager, Netware 3.x, 4.x, UNIX and
VINES.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
with additional information by npc.
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Company: Advanced Electronic Systems, Inc.
2005 Lincoln Way East
Chambersburg, PA 17201
US Phone: 1-800-345-1280
Email: None known
UPS Products:
Stediwatt UPS: Designed specifically for use with NeXTSTEP.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Alpha Technologies
US Phone: 1-206-647-2360
1-800-322-5742
UPS Products:
600 to 15000 VA line-interactive UPS systems, SW
with shutdown and SNMP support. 250 to 750 VA
standby UPS systems.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: APC, American Power Conversion
US Address: 132 Fairgrounds Road
P.O. Box 278
West Kingston, RI 02892
FR Address: 4, rue Ste Claire Deville
Zac du Mandinet-Batiment Espace
LOGNES
77447 MARNE LA VALLEE Cedex 2
FRANCE
US & CAN Phone: 1-800-800-4272
Europe Phone: (+33) 1.64.62.59.00
World Wide Phone: (401) 789-5735
Email: none known
UPS Products:
Smart UPS in sizes up to 2000 VA. The Smart UPS's do
monitoring and can shutdown multiple machines using the
PowerChute software. I recommend putting these on
computers. SNMP adaptor can be installed.
Back UPS same as Smart UPS except that you cannot
communicate interactively with the UPS and it will not
support SNMP. I recommend putting these on dumb equipment
like network equipment, X Terminals and Macintoshes (sorry,
I couldn't resist.)
Matrix UPS a modular "fault-tolerant" system. Any
module, except the insulation unit, can be "hot-swapped"
at any time. Also additional battery modules can be added,
again, while the system is running. SNMP adaptor can be
installed.
Software:
PowerChute, PowerChute PLUS. They produce it themselves.
Supported on: SunOS, HP-UX, SCO, AIX, AT&T UNIX,
Interactive UNIX, XENIX, and probably others by now.
Contributed by:
APC information contributed by Nick Christenson,
npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov without consultation with
APC. Additional information provided by Joe Moss,
joe@morton.rain.com. I have no affiliation with APC
except as a satisfied customer.
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Company: Best Power Technology, Inc.
P.O. Box 280
Necedah, WI 54646-9899
US Phone: 1-800-356-5794
Email: None known
UPS Products:
FERRUPS: Ferroresonant-Based, Line-Interactive UPS, sizes
from 500 VA - 18 KVA.
Features: Standard power features, serial line
communications, runtime monitoring, logging,
automatic shutdown with optional software, user
configurable.
FORTRESS: Advanced, line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 360
VA - 2 KVA.
PATRIOT: Low-Cost Standby Power Systems, 250 VA - 850 VA.
Contributed by: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
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Company: Clary Corporation
Address: Clary Corporations
320 W Clary Ave
San Gabriel, CA 91776
US Phone: 818 287-6111
UPS Products:
I'm not sure of the entire line, but their PC series includes
[ On-line -npc ] UPS ranging from 400 to 1500 VA [ 450 to 2400
VA -npc] with surge and noise suppression. Voltage regulation
to 3%, frequency to 1 Hz, RS232 signal output, LED load and
charge indicators. Sine wave output, Alarm, etc..
[ SW will do shutdown/startup and SNMP for LAN Manager, LAN
Server, Netware 3.X, 4.X, Unix, VINES, Windows NT, and OS/2.
-npc ]
Contributed by: Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com who has no relation
to Clary Corporation except as a user.
Additions by npc from October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Controlled Power Company
1955 Stephenson Hwy.
Troy, MI 48083
US Phone: 1-800-521-4792
1-313-528-3700
US Fax: 1-313-528-0411
UPS Products:
UPS, AC regulators, power conditioners. They
will do custom work.
[ On-line UPS from 400 to 60000 VA. Software
with shutdown/startup and SNMP functions for
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare
3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES and Windows NT -npc ]
Contact: David Gerds (Sales)
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Additions by npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Data General
UPS Products:
Data General repackages another vendor's UPS's (from
Exide?) with some sort of special cable. They deserve
some mention since they provide UPS monitoring software
built in to the AViiON (their UN*X boxen) line. It can
be managed through sysadm(1M).
Contributed by: Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
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Company: DELTEC
2727 Kurtz St.
San Diego, CA 92110-9980
US Phone: 1-800-854-2658
Email: None known
UPS Products:
"Most technologically advanced *true* on-line UPS."
[ 400 to 2200 VA line-interactive UPS systems.
Software with shutdown/startup and SNMP for
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetBIOS,
NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT and OS/2.
-npc ]
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Additions by npc from October 1994, LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Easy Options IBM Corporation
Address: IBM Corporations
Easy Options
Dept. WC3J
P.O. Box 2150
Atlanta, Ga 30301-9948
US Phone: Unknown.
UPS Products:
UPS ranging from 250 VA to 600 VA with surge and noise suppression.
Sine wave output, Test/Alarm, etc..
These UPS's come with an insurance policy. If your UPS damages
your systems, they'll pay you up to $25,000.
Software:
Works with APC's PowerChute software.
I doubt that IBM is making their own UPS's rather than repackaging
someone elses, but I'll be glad to post a correction if they are.
Contributed by: Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
who has no relation to IBM, or Easy Options except as
a satisfied customer.
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Company: EFI Electronics
US Phone: 1-801-977-9009
1-800-877-1174
UPS Products:
400 to 1250 VA Standby UPS systems. Software
with shutdown/startup and SNMP for LAN Manager,
LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES,
Windows NT.
Contributed by: npc, from October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine.
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Company: Elgar Power Systems Components
9250 Brown Deer Road
San Diego, CA 92121
US Phone: 1-800-733-5427
1-619-450-0085
US Fax: 1-619-458-0267
UPS Products:
UPS, Line Conditioners, AC regulators.
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
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Company: Emerson Electric Co., Computer Power Div.
US Address: 9650 Jeronimo Road
Irvine, CA 92718, USA
UK Address: Elgin Drive, Swindon
Wiltshire SN2-6DX, England
FR Address: 8, Rue de l'Esterel
Silic 502
94623 Rungis Cedex
France
IT Address: SICE S.p.A. [Note national Name!]
Via Rossini 6
20098 San Giuliano Milanese
Italy
US Phone: 1-800-BACKUPS
UK Phone: +44 458 841898
FR Phone: +33 146 862336
EMail: n/a
Products:
Accupower GOLD Series:
UPSes for 750, 1000, 1500, 2100 VA, the latter with
external Batt Pack. Connector for {Power,Accu}Mon S/W.
5 yr Batt Life. Good Display (3 Status LEDs, Load
and Batt Charge LED Bargraphs). Switches positioned
wrong (Main Power Switch on Front, Batt Check/Alarm
off on Back - I'd prefer them the other Way 'round).
other UPSes?
PowerMon Software:
Triggers for Outage, long Outage, Batt low. Uses one
serial Connector. Logging and Warnings to Users.
Requires special Cable (included in PowerMon Kit).
NOTE: The "Batt low" Trigger does not work "on SunOS
4.1.1 and above due to OS Limitations". >:-C I don't
know whether this includes Solaris 2.x.
AccuMon Software:
Reported to support all Kinds of fancy Communication
Items (gathering Power Line and internal UPS Data,
test Batt Cap periodically and announce Batt Aging,
switch off UPS on Computer Command, Logging
Facilities for all these Functions)
Other Software?
Contributed by: Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
who has no relation to Emerson.
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Company: Exide
8521 Six Forks Road
Raleigh, NC 27615
US & Canada Phone: 1-800-554-3448
1-919-872-3020
UPS Products:
800 to 1500 VA On-line UPS systems. Software
does shutdown/startup and SNMP for NetWare 3.X,
4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT
Contributed by: npc from October 1994 LAN Magazine.
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Company: Hewlett-Packard
UPS Products:
HP resells 4 models of the DELTEC 2000 series
with PowerMon software with VA ratings of
2400, 3600 for both 120 and 240 VAC.
HP resells 2 of APC's Smart-UPS modes, the 600
and 1250 VA models, again with HP's PowerMon
software. Technical support is handled directly
by APC.
HP also offers the Power Trust family of UPS for
use with their HP 9000/800 series machines.
Power monitoring software for HP-UX is included.
These appear to be created by HP themselves.
They come in 600 VA, 120 VAC (deskside) and 3.0
KVA, 240 VAC (rackmount) sizes. The 3.0 KVA
version weighs close to 400 lbs.!
The big Power Trust boxes have a test/alarm silence
button and a rocker switch which controls the output
power. There is no bypass and it relies on a power
distribution strip which is built into the enclosure.
Contributed by: Tom Myers, tvmyers@icdc.delcoelect.com
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Company: Hipotronics Inc.
Route 22
Brewster, NY 10509
US Phone: 1-914-279-8091
US Fax: 1-914-279-2467
UPS Products:
UPS, Line Conditioners, AC Regulators.
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
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Company: Intellipower
US Phone: 1-714-587-0155
UPS Products:
650 to 1100 VA On-line UPS systems with
software for shutdown/startup and SNMP for
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare
3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, AIUX,
NetWareLite, LANtastic
Contributed by: npc from October 1994 LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Liebert
US Phone: 1-614-888-0246
1-800-877-9222
UPS Products:
250 to 600 VA Standby UPS, 600 to 2000 VA
Line-interactive UPS, 750 to 18000 VA On-line
UPS systems. Software does shutdown/startup
and SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server,
NetBIOS, NetWare 3.x, 4.X, UNIX, VINES,
Windows NT, OS/2.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Minuteman
US Phone: 1-214-446-7363
1-800-238-7272
UPS Products:
300 to 425 VA Standby UPS, 500 to 2000 Line-
interactive UPS, 500 to 1000 VA On-line UPS.
Software does SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager,
LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES,
Windows NT.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Oneac
US Phone: 1-708-816-6000
1-800-327-8801
UPS Products:
400 to 1800 VA Isolated Line-Interactive UPS
with software that does shutdown/startup and
SNMP for LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare 3.X,
4.X, UNIX, VINES and Windows NT systems.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Philtek Electronics Ltd.
2471 Vauxhaul Place
Richmond, BC
V6V 1Z5 Canada
Phone: 1-604-270-4642
Fax: 1-604-270-8343
UPS Products:
UPS's.
Contact: Bob Smedley
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
------------------------
Company: Pylon Electronic Development
5020 Fairway St.
Lachine, PQ
H8 1B8 Canada
Phone: 1-514-633-8787
Fax: 1-514-636-1970
UPS Products:
UPS's/Power conditioners, modular/industrial
Contact: Graeme Turnbull
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
------------------------
Company: Sola
UPS Products:
Apparently Sola repackages Deltec UPS systems.
I have no other information.
------------------------
Company: Square D-EPE/TOPAZ
US Phone: 1-714-557-1636
1-800-344-0570
UPS Products:
250 to 700 VA Standby UPS, 600 to 2000 VA
Line-interactive UPS, 900 to 10000 On-line
UPS. Software does shutdown and SNMP on
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetBIOS,
NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT,
OS/2.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Superior Electric
US Phone: 1-203-585-4500
UPS Products:
400 to 2200 VA On-line UPS. Software does
shutdown/startup on AppleShare, LAN Manager,
LAN Server, NetWare, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Toshiba International Corporation
US Address: Industrial Division
13131 West Little York Rd.
Houston, TX 77041
US Phone: 1-713-466-0277
US Fax: 1-800-321-1412
Canada Phone: 1-800-527-1204
UPS Products:
Single and three phase double conversion on-line UPS,
from 600 VA to 50 KVA. Serial line interface and
auto-shutdown software available.
Contributed by: Seth J. Bradley, sbradley@scic.intel.com,
a very satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: Tripp Lite
500 N. Orleans
Chicago, IL 60610-4188
US Phone: 1-312-329-1601
1-755-5401
Email: None known
UPS Products:
On-line UPSs with pure Sine Wave output. [ 250 to 1250 VA
Standby UPS, 250 to 2000 Line-interactive UPS, 300 to
2000 VA On-line UPS. Software does shutdown/startup, SNMP
and RMON for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare,
UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, OS/2, LANtastic. -npc ]
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Additional info by npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
05.03 Software products:
Company: ResponseWare Inc.
US Phone: 1-800-673-4777
Email: responseguy@AOL.com
Products:
ResponseWare is software that performs a great number of
services for UPS users. ResponseWare uses a MS Windows
console as its control point. The console communicates
with both a UPS and the server. It has built-in out call
paging and they offer a remote monitoring service where
they can dial-in, diagnose problems and dispatch help.
The software also can monitor temperature, humidity,
security, life/safety, etc..
ResponseWare works on Novell (NLM), AS/400, HP 9000, Sun,
and VAX platforms.
It works with APC, Best, Deltec, Exide, Liebert and TrippLite
UPS products.
Cost is $99 per server and $199 for the MS-Windows Console
program. Monthly monitoring charges begin at $99/month.
Information provided by Bob Hunter of ResponseWare provides
this information.
------------------------
On the NeXTSTEP front, there is a company called BenaTong (?)
which sells a software package called PowerGuardian for NeXTSTEP
only. It will work with APC, TrippLite and UNISON UPS's. If,
for example, you call APC and ask for PowerChute for NeXT, they
will refer you to Power Guardian.
Contributed by: Chuck Bennett, (chuck@benatong.com) who works
for this company.
------------------------
Also for NeXTstep, Max Hailperin wrote a package for monitoring
Best Fortress UPS units called GACUPS. It consists of a daemon
and a GUI. The daemon will shut the NeXT machine down gracefully
and do logging. It also answers queries from the GUI. The GUI
displays status information. It should be available on the usual
NeXTstep anonymous FTP sites. One place you might want to check
is in : ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/. Any
reports on how it works?
Contributed by Max Hailperin (max@kolmogorov.gac.edu).
05.04 Other companies: ITT Power System Corp
Digital Equipment Corporation. (They probably
repackage someone else's stuff, but
they're likely to support it and you
can order it from their catalog.)
I'd appreciate any information I can get on these.
06:
TOPIC: Bibliography
There are many good references and review articles on UPS
information. Some of the best sources can be found in
vendor information. There is great reference material woven
into their propoganda. Some other good sources are:
"The Dranetz Field Handbook for Power Quality Analysis",
1991, Dranetz Technologies, 1000 New Durham Rd.,
Edison, NJ 08818, 1-908-287-3680.
"National Electrical Code Handbook", 1993, National Fire
Protection Association, One Batterymarch Park,
P.O. Box 9101, Quincy, MA 02269, 1-617-770-3000.
"Grounding and Shielding in Facilities", 1990, by Ralph
Morrison and Warren H. Lewis, John Wiley & Sons,
New York, ISBN 0-471-83807-1.
"Battling Power Problems", by Alan Frank, LAN Magazine,
October 1994, pp 65-72, Miller Freeman, Inc..
"UPS Chart", by the LAN staff, LAN Magazine, October
1994, pp 74-84, Miller Freeman, Inc..
07:
TOPIC: Acknowledgements
I would like to thank Charles Rhoades (cwr@zeus.jpl.nasa.gov) for
his sage remarks on my draft of this document.
I would like to thank Kevin R. Ray (kevin@kray.com) for sending me
the freely distributable upsd software and Ronald Florence
(ron@mlfarm.com) for contributing the pf program.
Thanks also to Don Deal (Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu) for a great
many valuable suggestions and that great section on the types
of UPS units.
The following people have all made valuable contributions to this
document:
Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
David E A Wilson, david@cs.uow.edu.au
Edward Hartnett, ejh@larry.gsfc.nasa.gov
Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com
Kurt Hillig, khillig@chem.lsa.umich.edu
Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
Steve Welch, smw@columbine.cgd.ucar.edu
Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com
Andrew J. Templin, nosilla@ohionet.org
Chuck Bennett, chuck@benatong.com
M.V.S. Ramanath, ram@sclara.qms.com
Max Hailperin, max@kolmogorov.gac.edu
Larry Moss, moss@cvs.rochester.edu
Please note that I take full blame for any errors or omissions.
From: borealis@cais2.cais.com (Mborealis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Megapixel D1 value???
Date: 10 Nov 1994 13:34:17 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <39t7gp$jl2@news.cais.com>
References: <39r22a$9jc@news.cais.com>
Note: This is the original 2bit Megapixel display (15"?) for an 030 cube.
Greg Gainer
borealis@cais.com -or- gainer@aepco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: 9116591@news.ul.ie ( Vincent Hayes )
Subject: Camera, frame grabber, device driver.
Message-ID: <Cz22GI.G0n@ul.ie>
Sender: usenet@ul.ie
Organization: University of Limerick
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:19:29 GMT
Hi
I am continuing a video conferencing project, some of the code
has actually been written. At this point my main priority is to acquire
a camera, frame grabber and suitable device driver for a Gateway 2000
machine. I would appreciate if any one with information specifically
about the device driver would post them to this news group.
Thanks,
Vinny.
From: dan@jughead.opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the best portable for running NSFIP?
Date: 10 Nov 1994 15:42:40 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <39tf1g$qc3@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <38onb2$sul@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
In article <38onb2$sul@lorne.stir.ac.uk> djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J
Baird) writes:
> Anyone out there have any experience running NSFIP on a portable?
> More specifically, does anyone have suggestions as to what portable
would be
> the best to buy, and whether colour or mono is best? I have heard the
NEC
> portables work well, but would be happier if someone out there who had
actually
> used one could substantiate this!
> --
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> Scotland FK9 4LA
>
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I understand that Talus makes a very nice NEXTSTEP notebook capable of
8-bit color. You might want to ask them: info@talus.com.
--
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(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: adrian@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca (Adrian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP DAT Drive problems
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:45:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Family Medicine
Message-ID: <adrian.81.2EC2401C@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca>
Forgive me if this is a common question with a siple answer, but I don't get
on this group much any more.
I have a NEXTSTEP Intel 3.2 box with NCR PCI SCSI. I'm trying to connect a
Dynatek 4000 DAT drive to it. The drive mechanism is HP.
When the machine boots, the SCSI card recognizes the drives (one
internal, one external) and the DAT drive. When the OS starts, the drives are
mounted correctly, but the DAT drive mysteriously vanishes. Nothing can find
it, and all of the appropriate devices (/dev/nrst0, etc...) are useless.
This drive works just fine on a NS Motorola box running 3.0. Same drives, same
DAT drive. All the drives are there after boot, and dumping works with no
problem.
Has anyone out there experienced this and found a fix? My options at this
point are to:
a) Look at new SCSI drivers for my NCR card.
b) Buy a different DAT drive (EEEKKK!!)
c) Quit and move to somewhere less stressful - like Bosnia.
-drin
Adrian Smith
Informatics Coordinator
Department of Family Medicine, University of Alberta
Adrian.Smith@Ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Parking HD for movement?
Message-ID: <1994Nov10.090724.5366@roper.uwyo.edu>
From: ezimmerm@UWYO.EDU
Date: 10 Nov 94 09:07:24 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie
Salutations!
I'm _finally_ getting my Cube! (I'm thrilled :) I will
be driving out to pick it up and take it home with me (about 1200 miles).
Is there some kind of hard drive head parking utility for the
Cube? The machine has two drives. I'd like to get
a responce ASAP, as I'm leaving Friday.
Gene
ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: obsta@runner.esm.vt.edu (Andreas Obst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ergonomic Keyboard
Date: 10 Nov 1994 16:42:59 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39tiij$p0o@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In a recent thread on this newsgroup people said that the Kinesis
keyboard works very well for them. I would appreciate if people who
use the keyboard could briefly answer the three questions (below).
I will post a summary of the answers to the net. The reason for this is
that the keyboard will not work with my non-ADB NeXTstation but I might be
able to hook it up to some other NeXTs in our department.
1. What system do you use the Kinesis keyboard with (please be specific,
e.g., if it is a NeXTstation please indicate if it is ADB-compatible,
Turbo or non-Turbo, etc.) ?
2. Were there any problems connecting the keyboard or is it plug-and-play?
3. Are there any problems using it (e.g., some keys do not work with
NeXT computers) ?
Thanks, Andreas
--
Andreas Obst
Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics
Virginia Tech
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 10 Nov 94 10:35:50
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <schaefer.94Nov10103550@syrtis>
References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
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>I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy
>people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS. I guess I have a
>vague notion that people are pretty pleased generally.
Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want
more than 32 MB of RAM.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: refresh rate and resolution on a mono-slab monitor?
Message-ID: <Cz1u6B.1AE@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <1994Nov7.231342.5825@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:20:34 GMT
In article <1994Nov7.231342.5825@midway.uchicago.edu> lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars
Andreas Stole) writes:
| The subject heading says it all. I'm planning on buying a Pentium system,
| but hate giving up the text clarity of grayscale. Nanao has a 21"
| grayscale monitor that operates at 1280-1024 (@75Hz) and 1600-1200 (@60Hz).
| I am curious as to the resolution and refresh rate on my current '040 mono
| monitor as a comparison. Thanks in advance.
|
| BTW: for anyone who is interested, the monitor is a Nanao Flexscan 6500
| (256 grayscale) which has a mailorder price of $1000-1100.
|
| --
| Lars A. Stole
| Graduate School of Business
| University of Chicago
| 1101 E. 58th Street
| Chicago, IL 60637
| U.S.A.
Hello Lars,
the original '040 mono monitor has 1120 x 832 Pixel running with 68,3 Hz,
non interlaces using about 100 ~ 120 MHz bandwidth.
Nice greetings from Munich - Germany
--
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LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
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From: adrian@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca (Adrian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP DAT Drive problems
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 18:18:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Family Medicine
Message-ID: <adrian.83.2EC263F9@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca>
References: <adrian.81.2EC2401C@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca>
In article <adrian.81.2EC2401C@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca> adrian@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca (Adrian Smith) writes:
[munch]
Many thanks David Jeske for pointing out my stupidity. I foolishly believed
that since NEXTSTEP was Unix, it would recognize the DAT drive on boot.
The answer, of course, is to install the SCSI Tape driver from Configure.app.
Thanks again, David.
-drin
Adrian Smith
Informatics Coordinator
Department of Family Medicine, University of Alberta
Adrian.Smith@Ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: HP DAT Drive problems
Message-ID: <1994Nov10.175910.16706@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <adrian.81.2EC2401C@hippocrates.family.med.ualberta.ca>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:59:10 GMT
Adrian Smith writes
> Forgive me if this is a common question with a siple answer, but I don't get
> on this group much any more.
>
> I have a NEXTSTEP Intel 3.2 box with NCR PCI SCSI. I'm trying to connect a
> Dynatek 4000 DAT drive to it. The drive mechanism is HP.
>
> When the machine boots, the SCSI card recognizes the drives (one
> internal, one external) and the DAT drive. When the OS starts, the drives are
> mounted correctly, but the DAT drive mysteriously vanishes. Nothing can find
> it, and all of the appropriate devices (/dev/nrst0, etc...) are useless.
>
> This drive works just fine on a NS Motorola box running 3.0. Same drives,
same
> DAT drive. All the drives are there after boot, and dumping works with no
> problem.
>
> Has anyone out there experienced this and found a fix? My options at this
> point are to:
>
> a) Look at new SCSI drivers for my NCR card.
> b) Buy a different DAT drive (EEEKKK!!)
> c) Quit and move to somewhere less stressful - like Bosnia.
>
How about:
d) None of the above
See my posting in comp.sys.next.sysadmin. You need to install the SCSI Tape
Driver on your Intel NS machine. However, the original SCSI drivers for the
NCR don't support tape drives. They do have new drivers in Beta now, but they
only support a few types of tape drives (I don't know if yous is supported or
not). Contact Talus for more info.
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| Synectic Design | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC 4xi CD-ROM
Date: 10 Nov 1994 08:03:33 -0500
Organization: Public Access Internet & UNIX
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <39t5n5$h6e@panix.com>
References: <RDL.94Nov9050623@world.std.com>
In article <RDL.94Nov9050623@world.std.com>,
Robert La Ferla <rdl@world.std.com> wrote:
>Has anyone successfully installed a NEC 4xi CD-ROM on a NS/I system? So far
>it has caused me nothing but grief. A message similar to the one below
>happens when I do a scsimodes /dev/rsd1a. The info about the drive does
>appear after the error message though.
>
>Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL.
>Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Mode Sense
Um, why is it saying that the error is on sd1 when it is trying to access
target 2 (in theory sd2). Ahh, I know why. SCSI ID numbers 0 through 3 are
conventially hard drives. I have my CD drive set to ID 4 and it works fine.
This may not be your problem, but try setting it to ID 4 and see what happens.
Alec
--
Alec Peterson Panix Public Access UNIX and Internet
chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI NCR+PCI COGENT
Date: 10 Nov 1994 15:03:26 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <39tcnu$nbt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <Cz0Kqs.LIG@eunet.ch>
In article <Cz0Kqs.LIG@eunet.ch> lien@lysis.ch writes:
>Hi,
>
>I m having some trouble in configurating a Pentium PCI/EISA board (ASUS)
>with a SCSI PCI NCR board and a Network PCI Cogent board. NCR is ok, but I
>can t see the Cogent adapter.
>
>I heard that it was discussed in comp.sys.next.hardware before... Has
>anyone the answer?
Yes. The drivers are incompatible.
Apparently JCIS has modified their version of the (Talus) NCR driver to
overcome this. If you have a JCIS machine, you win. Otherwise, you lose.
Send back the Cogent card and get an Intel EtherExpress.
- db
--
Burns: "Who is that goat legged fellow? I like the cut of his jib!"
Smithers: "Prince of Darkness, sir. He's your 11:00."
From: bas@Neuromancer.HACKS.Arizona.EDU (Dragon HACKer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q] SCSI controller + CD ROM!
Date: 10 Nov 1994 21:31:53 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <39u3g9$arq@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Well, I have obtain the list of Hardware compatibility for Intel.
However, before I am going to have some upgrades, I wanna make sure
that:
1. Ultrastor 34 F SCSI controller (vl-bus) is not supported.
Supports only: (for VL-BUS): Adaptec 274x/284x.
Bus Logic 445S
2. The only CD-ROM drives supported by NS are:
NEC CDR-74 and Sony-541
This list is probably outdated, but this is the only info I can get so
far (from ftp.next.com).
So anybody who can confirm this? I plan to buy NS3.2 within two weeks
from now. Any help would be appricieated.
Thanks,
--
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* Department of System Engineering * How many apples fell on *
* University Of Arizona * Newton's head before *
* Tucson, AZ 85721 * he took the hint! *
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:56:45 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <schaefer.94Nov10103550@syrtis>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by
schaefer@syrtis.geology.
> Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want
> more than 32 MB of RAM.
Why?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2842A NSI3.2 ??
Message-ID: <1994Nov10.101201.692@sydney.bo.open.de>
Sender: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal)
Organization: NeXT Cube, Bochum, Germany
References: <39ls5e$f3o@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 10:12:01 GMT
In article <39ls5e$f3o@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> mandel@oxbox.cso.uiuc.edu (Hector Mandel)
writes:
Hi,
> I have an EISA/VESA 486 MB and an Adaptec 2842A host adapter. Is there any
> hope of running NSI3.2 on this combo? I'd appreciate any suggestions or
> leads about device drivers.
>
> Thanks in advance.
The 2842 works gread under NS and it is very much faster than any ISA Controller. The main
problem is how to install the driver to the harddisk. You need a other Controller like the 1542
to install it because the 2842 driver comes in a package.
--
Ciao
mmo
email: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (NeXTmail welcome)
--
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What hardware to purchase for new computer center?
Date: 10 Nov 1994 18:54:42 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <39tq9i$25p@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <39r5tu$jh3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
> > > HP hardware. Only buy this if you have tens of thousands sitting in
> > > your wallet and you want the absolute fastest NextStep machine in
> > > existence.
> > Well, one out of two isn't so bad: they are plenty fast. The
> > prices, however, are much lower than the above post
> > describes.
> No, two out of two are correct.
No.
You stated clearly above that an HP system would cost
"tens of thousands", and I proved that statement
incorrect by specific example. You are wrong regardless
of whether one uses HP or 3rd party components.
Yes, an HP 712 system will cost more than a P90
system as well. That's a separate fact.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?
Date: 10 Nov 1994 22:59:58 GMT
Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT
Message-ID: <39u8le$brk@news.cc.utah.edu>
References: <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de> <39m6eh$hts@news.cc.utah.edu> <39rphi$23o@esp22.nrl.navy.mil>
In article <39rphi$23o@esp22.nrl.navy.mil> eric@aib.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:
] Huh??? This is nonsense. If you remove a scsi disk and re-insert it,
] the disk will report UNIT_ATTENTION the next time you attempt to access it.
] The scsi disk drivers notice this, and automatically invalidate all of the
] buffers associated with the drive.
If this has been corrected after 1.1.61, then I stand corrected (and would
like the code).
It is my understanding that the cached pages are *not* flushed until they
are LRU'ed.
You can demonstrated this to yourself by mounting a CDROM, ls'ing a
directory, unmounting the CDROM, mounting it again, and ls'ing the same
directory -- and noting the drive activity.
Or you can instrument the driver and see the same thing.
] Inodes are automatically flushed when a device is unmounted. This is
] because you could umount, make a new filesystem and remount, and the cached
] inodes would be incorrect.
The point I was making. But the tagging of the FS prevents this from
happening, since the tags not matching indicates a real media change as
opposed to offlining the device.
The corruption issue is only applicable to writeable media, and then it
depends on non-Bernoulli media (IOmega does it's own tagging of the media,
and they do it correctly).
This isssue was noted by an engineer at Novell UnixWare developer support;
the particular engineer wrote the UNIX drivers for the Bernoulli drives
while working at IOmega before coming to Novell.
The (apparent) intent in doing this is to better support things like FTP
and NFS servers that export multiple entries from an optical jukebox. I'm
guessing at the intent based on one effect of the implementation here;
sorry.
Not flushing the cache yields a *significant* performance edge on Pioneer
and other jukeboxed devices. The mistake, as I see it, is the potential
problem for non-drive-tagged removable media that is writeable, or in
identical media images in multiple drives (the mastering case) if the
media switches drives (example: two writeable one-off drives, one disk
being mounted read-only and the other read-write, with the disks being
transposed for some reason).
There is also the issue in this case that the user space NFS implementation
opens the export directory -- and holds it open. You have to kill the
daemon to unmount the underlying media.
Keeping the cache across media mounts resolves the jukebox-remount/NFS
export interaction issue.
] >This is especially evident if you are trying to do CD mastering with a
] >R/W ISO9660 volume and a CDROM one-off and both are on removable media.
]
] Irrelevant. The drive will report UNIT_ATTENTION and the buffers
] will be flushed.
]
] Non-scsi devices, such as a mitsumi, also report disk change,
] and the buffers are similarly flushed when the media is changed.
Can you explain how to NFS export multiple volumes in a jukebox otherwise?
Again, if this is already corrected, then it's probably a non-issue.
Regards,
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Trouble with new boot drive (black). Help.
Message-ID: <Cz30Gw.6I9@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 02:34:07 GMT
Hi. Here is the description of my problem.
I purchased an external drive, a Fujitsu 500Mb (model 2624F) for a NeXTstation
to replace my noisy boot drive (also external), a Fujitsu M2263SA. After
successfully using the BuidDisk App to make the new drive bootable, I encouter
the following problems:
1) When booting from the new drive which I assigned SCSI id =0, I get these
messages:
scsi unexpected msg:1
unexpected msg
:
:
fifo level = 0 transfer count =0
booting from scsi target 1 lun 0
The system for some reason has trouble finding the new boot drive, looks for
scsi id=1(the internal drive) and finally decides to boot using the new drive.
2) I do not have a login window. How do I set up one?
3) I do not own the files in the new boot drive, that is I can't change or
overwrite them. Why?
How do I go about to solve these problems? Your help will be very appreciated.
Bye,
Ze Tomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Does the Pioneer cd-rom DRM-602X work with a NeXT?
Message-ID: <Cz35ux.HEr@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 04:30:33 GMT
Has anybody used the cd-rom from Pioneer : DRM-602X on either a NeXT
or Mac computer? How does it perform? Please let me know about your
experiences and opinion. Is this double-speed, 6-disk cd-rom worth $450?
Bye,
Ze Tomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: [Q] SCSI controller + CD ROM!
Message-ID: <Cz34K7.BB8@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <39u3g9$arq@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 04:02:26 GMT
Dragon HACKer (bas@Neuromancer.HACKS.Arizona.EDU) wrote:
: 1. Ultrastor 34 F SCSI controller (vl-bus) is not supported.
: Supports only: (for VL-BUS): Adaptec 274x/284x.
: Bus Logic 445S
: 2. The only CD-ROM drives supported by NS are:
: NEC CDR-74 and Sony-541
The BusLogic should treat you fine. I'm using the 747S with a Plextor
4Plex which has been flawless. I eventually obtained Tomas Hurka's
driver, and am happy I made that choice.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: nanci@insane
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Projection Systems?
Date: 11 Nov 1994 04:54:15 GMT
Organization: Questar Network Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39utdn$91e@qns1.qns.com>
Keywords: projectors
Does anyone know what type of LCD projectors work best with a
NeXTStation Color Turbo's output?
Basically I need to know either the right specs to look for on the
connection side of the projector or a projector name brand that has
been proven to work!
Mitch Roider
President
Strategic Object Development
From: roider@qns.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Projection Systems?
Date: 11 Nov 1994 04:59:33 GMT
Organization: Questar Network Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39utnl$94c@qns1.qns.com>
References: <39utdn$91e@qns1.qns.com>
In article <39utdn$91e@qns1.qns.com> nanci@insane writes:
>
> Does anyone know what type of LCD projectors work best with a
> NeXTStation Color Turbo's output?
>
> Basically I need to know either the right specs to look for on the
> connection side of the projector or a projector name brand that has
> been proven to work!
>
>
> Mitch Roider
> President
> Strategic Object Development
Sorry about the address thing someone :-) was messing with
NewsGrazer!!!!
email me at roider@qns.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC 4xi CD-ROM
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:48:39 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <8ikeB7W00Uh787mWAT@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <39t5n5$h6e@panix.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Nov-94 Re: NEC 4xi
CD-ROM by Alec H. Peterson@panix.c
>> Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL.
>> Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Mode Sense
>
> Um, why is it saying that the error is on sd1 when it is trying to access
> target 2 (in theory sd2).
That's not correct. The first valid SCSI device with the lowest target
number is assigned to sd0, the next valid SCSI device with the
second-lowest target number is assigned to sd1, and so forth.
There is no direct relationship between the SCSI target number and the
number of the special file in /dev which corresponds to that device.
> Ahh, I know why. SCSI ID numbers 0 through 3 are conventially hard drives.
No, I'm afraid not. :-)
> I have my CD drive set to ID 4 and it works fine. This may not be your
> problem, but try setting it to ID 4 and see what happens.
That shouldn't matter unless there was a conflict with the CD-ROM drive
and some other device. Changing the ID to something else just to check
for this is a good idea, though.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 11 Nov 1994 05:21:18 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39uv0e$8if@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
-> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by
-> schaefer@syrtis.geology.
-> > Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want
-> > more than 32 MB of RAM.
->
-> Why?
Running the 1280x1024x32 bit display seems to really hog
RAM. My 712/60 with 64 MB RAM swaps noticeably with not
that many apps running. Perhaps there are some memory
leaks - there are plenty of little bugs that need to be
fixed for the 3.3 release.
For the record, I was able to get a 712/80 running with only
16 MB, but it wasn't very fast until I switched to 8-bit
grayscale video.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scicali@viola.cimsi.cim.ch (Simone CICALISSI)
Subject: Compaq QVision/P PCI
Message-ID: <Cz3M9A.DMu@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 10:24:45 GMT
Are there any third party drivers for the Compaq QVision/P PCI that you
guys know of for NeXTStep ?
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: @^#$! NS 3.2 Installation - GIVING UP SOON!
Date: 11 Nov 1994 09:28:31 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <39vdfv$9hc@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Folks,
I have _SERIOUS_ problems with NS 3.2 [ie, can't install]
what happens is:
----------------
NS boot V1.28
(...)
[Installing Adaptec 274x Series EISA SCSI Adaptor]
The Driver was loaded successfully. Press Return to continue.
NeXT Mach 3.2:Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993, root(rc-builder):
mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
(...)
ISA bus
DriverKit version 320
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Resetting SCSI Bus...
Adaptec 7770: Host Adaptor not found
Registering event0
Registering kmDevice0
No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found
-------------
The system config is as follows:
486/DX2 VLB Mainboard, 16M Ram.
SCSI: adaptor 2842, IBM 0664 Spitfire 2GB Disc (internal, ID 0),
IBM CD-ROM I (external, ID 2).
Cirrus 5426 VLB gfx.
NoName VLB IO controller.
one 3.5" floppy drive connected to the adaptec.
the IO card's floppy controller is disabled.
SCSI adaptor settings:
IRQ 11, SCSI ID 7, Parity check enabled, SCSI termiation disabled.
adv. config:
FIFO threshold 100%, Bus reset enabled, BIOS enabled,
removable disc support under Bios Boot only, extended BIOS translation
>1G enabled, BIOS support for >2 Drives disabled.
------------
btw, it cost me considerable time making install find the driver, as
it wants NS-formatted floppies with the uncompressed driver in a spec.
directory. Heck, only root can uncompress packages! (bothered a LOT of
people to get me the driver.)
tnx,
-SM
From: nunez@Inference.COM (Steve Nunez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: homebrew FAQ
Date: 11 Nov 1994 06:48:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9411111249.AA00892@quaestor>
In article <Cywv81.3Ht@nntpa.cb.att.com> vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO) writes:
vrgr> I am interested in setting up an Intel-based
vrgr> configuration for running NS, for my personal
vrgr> use. So........
vrgr> I would appreciate if someone with NS running on
vrgr> Pentium 90 based configuration would share the
vrgr> details of the configuration with me.
I'm also interested in this, and just signed up to the homebrew
mailing list. Would someone send me the homebrew.FAQ? (If there is
one) Something listing motherboards, CDROM drives, etc. that are
known to work with NS.
- Steve Nunez
nunez@inference.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Message-ID: <1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu>
Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 94 13:34:06 GMT
In article <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila>, <jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr> wrote:
>->I haven't seen much on the net about how happy or unhappy
>->people seem to be with their Gekko's and NS.
>->
>->Thanks much - Jon
>
>i'm running a 712/80 since june with Nextstep. Quite frankly,
>compared to my previous turbo-color it's a big progress : much faster
>basically. There are still some bugs (serial driver e.g) but they 'll
>be corrected with version 3.3. I had also some problems to find the
>same applications running (mathematica not delivered, newsgrazer
>replaced by newsbase and mmedit, and a few other but the situation is
>vastly improving).
>My feeling is Gecko running NeXTSTEP is great.
>
I am also running the 712/80 with the 21 in monitor and 32 M of RAM.
For the most part I am also very happy with it. It is very fast, and
a big step up from my non-Turbo mono slab. The HP service is very
good. The Gecko is much more expensive than similarly configured
Intel systems. I wonder if someone who has seen HPPA on a 712/80 and
NSFIP on a P90 side by side can comment?
Now I'll concentrate on the negative side. Let me preface this by
saying that I really like the machine. I just haven't seen some of
the following things mentioned on the net yet.
First of all, 32M of RAM seems barely enough. I may have to buy some
more once Mathematica comes out. HP memory is not outrageously
expensive, though.
The video is a little funny sometimes--especially the default font
settings for the menu items and for the file names. For some reason
these "thin" (ie not bold) fonts seem to fool the color recovery
system, and the characters look blurry. If you look closely it is
because some of the pixels next to the characters are shaded gray.
Under HPUX the system uses thicker, larger fonts. You can, of course
make this kind of change in preferences. It is a minor nuisance, and
you don't notice it if you sit back from the screen a bit, or if you
have the system use a bold font face.
I also don't like the keyboard and mouse. Both are slow and stiff.
You can use any PS/2 style mouse, and, I imagine, a variety of
keyboards. I have plugged in another mouse and found that it worked.
I haven't tried a 3rd party keyboard.
The sound on the Gecko could be improved. For example, at full volume
you can barely hear the "tink" sounds in the BoinkOut demo. I think
amplified speakers are the only answer here.
The software situation is frustrating right now. For me, the main
thing missing Mathematica. WRI says January. As others have
commented the fact that you can't compile "tri-fat" on the Intel or
Motorola machines means that many shareware and 3rd party products are
not available for the Gecko. I don't know that this is likely to
change much. Of course, for things released with source code, if you
have NS developer, you can just compile them, though sometimes even
this is not enough. For example some of the BackSpace animations look
jerky on the Gecko (WorldSpace especially)). Also, the upcoming 3.3
release will not be available for the HP's.
If you buy a Gecko to replace a NeXT, be prepared to invest in cables.
The serial ports on the back are differs from the one on the back of
the nexts, and there are only two ethernet ports: the missing one is
the coaxial cable type (thin). HP wants around $200 for a transducer
(an adaptor for the coax type connector), but you can get one for
around $40 from the mail order places.
I hope I didn't give a negative impression of the machine. I really
like it. The above are just a few things I think people might like to
know before investing in one.
--
-----------------------------------
Mike Hopkins
mjh@math.mit.edu
-----------------------------------
From: hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI NCR+PCI COGENT
Date: 11 Nov 1994 14:02:06 GMT
Organization: Nynex Science & Technology, Inc.
Message-ID: <39vtgu$9om@news.nynexst.com>
References: <Cz0Kqs.LIG@eunet.ch> <39tcnu$nbt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: Yes. The drivers are incompatible.
: Apparently JCIS has modified their version of the (Talus) NCR driver to
: overcome this. If you have a JCIS machine, you win. Otherwise, you lose.
: Send back the Cogent card and get an Intel EtherExpress.
: - db
Will NS 3.3 support my NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI card and Diamond
Stealth 64 PCI (S3 964)? How about AMD PCnet32/PCI ethernet
card? Those cards are well supported by Linux and very fast.
I was wondering what takes for Next to get drivers for them.
Pay a consultant?
It looks to me NS is not only expensive but also crippled.
H.J.
--
First I thought he was on hunger strike. Later I was told he was
praticing YanXin QiGong.
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (csmith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NextStep monitor on Mac
Date: 11 Nov 1994 04:17:17 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <39ur8d$ikk@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Would it be possible to hook up a Black NextStep monitor to a macintosh?
Where could I get info on th epin configuration and powerneeds of
a NextStep Black Monitor. Oh, this is a model # N4000
Chris
From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 11 Nov 94 11:55:08
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <schaefer.94Nov1111558@syrtis>
References: <kikbfxC00iV5Q7v4ck@andrew.cmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Chuck, you said:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 10-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by
>schaefer@syrtis.geology.
>> Well, I am VERY pleased with mine. But you will definitely want
>> more than 32 MB of RAM.
>Why?
>-Chuck
In answer, it takes very little (reading the news will usually do it) to start the machine swapping furiously. I am waiting for an external hard disk right now, and don't have much free space on the disk the swapfile is on. I usually reboot 2 or 3 times a day to reduce the swapfile size. Now if I had lots of space, I wouldn't have to do that, but I would still have to wait and watch the screen redraw after changing which window was in front.
Don't get me wrong - I love this machine! - but it does need more memory (which I have on order right now). And I am finding a good selection of software to run on it. Some I have had to build myself, with the sources on public ftp sites, and some is gradually appearing tri-fat on those sites so I don't have to build it.
-Martha Schaefer
schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SoundBlaster 16 problems (again!)
Date: 11 Nov 1994 19:48:51 -0000
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3a0hr3$5s3@turner.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi, I tried using the NeXT 3.2 beta driver for the SB16 card and it just
reboots the system whenever a 16-bit sound is played. Is there a way of
configuring the card to use the 8-bit DMA channel for 16-bit DMA? It is
possible to do this under DOS where the card works perfectly.
I also have an Adaptec SCSI card using port 0330. I configured the SB16
card's MIDI port to use port 0300. Is it possible to do this under NSFIP
3.2?? I can change the base port via Configure.app, but not the MIDI port.
Any help is much appreciated.
Eren Kotan eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Reinstalling NeXT Boot Program
Date: 11 Nov 1994 17:59:27 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <3a0bdv$d0s@godot.cc.duq.edu>
I know I've read this topic on this group before but I don't have any of
the associated messages so I'm hoping the involved parties can easily remember
their answers.
I had installed NeXTstep 3.2 on a series of Dell computers along with DOS
partitions and all of the associated messy-dos software.
Everything was fine until some kind person upgraded a few of the machines to
DOS 6.2 and now, you guessed it, they don't offer the option of booting
NeXTstep anymore. I'm pretty sure the drives weren't repartitioned so
if I can somehow re-install the NeXT boot program I think I'll be fine.
Does anyone have the solution?
Thanks.
--Jason Brown
Senior Software Engineer
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gecko systems
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 13:06:29 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Eikv_ZG00iV684a2tf@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <39uv0e$8if@news.ycc.yale.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Nov-94 Re: Gecko
systems by Nathan F. Janette@laplac
> Running the 1280x1024x32 bit display seems to really hog
> RAM. My 712/60 with 64 MB RAM swaps noticeably with not
> that many apps running.
Okay, I can believe that. The reason I was wondering is that I have a
715/50 with 32 MB or RAM, and it seems perfectly happy with that amount
of RAM.
> Perhaps there are some memory leaks - there are plenty of
> little bugs that need to be fixed for the 3.3 release.
3.3 for HP? Is it going to be available at the same time the other
platforms get 3.3?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: steve@talus.talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI NCR+PCI COGENT
Date: 11 Nov 1994 18:46:22 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3a0e5u$aj2@news.blkbox.com>
References: <39tcnu$nbt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
In article <39tcnu$nbt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy
BROCKBANK) writes:
> In article <Cz0Kqs.LIG@eunet.ch> lien@lysis.ch writes:
> I m having some trouble in configurating a
> Pentium PCI/EISA board (ASUS) with a SCSI PCI
> NCR board and a Network PCI Cogent board. NCR is
> ok, but I can t see the Cogent adapter. I heard
> that it was discussed in comp.sys.next.hardware
> before... Has anyone the answer?
>
> Yes. The drivers are incompatible.
>
> Apparently JCIS has modified their version of the
> (Talus) NCR driver to overcome this. If you have
> a JCIS machine, you win. Otherwise, you lose. Send
> back the Cogent card and get an Intel
> EtherExpress.
>
> - db
This problem has been solved and we will be releasing a new version of the
the NCR driver following Comdex. The new driver will also work with both
3.2 as well as 3.3. Nobody "loses" :-))
Anyone purchasing the NCR driver now is already receiving the updated
version. We have it running along with the Cogent card without any
problems.
Steve Sarich
steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: scollins@da_vinci.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (Steven Collins)
Subject: DOS/NEXT partition problems
Message-ID: <Cz42A3.DFE@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com>
Sender: news@da_vinci.ecte.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:10:51 GMT
I have installed a DOS partion on my NEXT system.
DOS boots up fine but when I start MS-Windows
the video starts to switch but then jumps right
back to DOS. I thought it was a Windows/driver
problem but couldn't find any problems. When I installed
a DOS only partion, Windows came up fine.
Any ideas?
Thanks Steve
--
From: emoy@athena.mit.edu (Eva Moy)
Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.os.os2.programmer.oop,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3,comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl,fj.comp.oops,mit.lcs.announce,mit.lcs.misc,mit.eecs.discuss
Subject: We need your help -- a Sentry 3000 scanner (by NCS) or OOP people near MIT
Date: 11 Nov 1994 19:48:38 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3a0hqm$ere@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Sorry for sending this mail to so many groups, but we have somewhat of
an emergency here.
"We" are the Course Evaluation Guide, a student group at MIT
(Cambridge, MA). We take students' end-of-term survey forms and bubble
forms, process them, and print a 200+ page book. We are about one week
from deadline, and we need help soon!
Here's the problem:
We bought a new bubble form scanning machine (the OpScan 5, made by
National Computer Systems) which is supposed to be compatible with the
old one we had (Sentry 3000, by NCS). The standard NCS scanner
software can deal with both systems, but we have custom-written
software which we just found out is not robust enough to just go in
and change a few of the parameters.
What we need:
- Somebody in the New England area to lend us a Sentry 3000 for a few
days. We will drive there and bring it back.
- An object-oriented C programmer in the MIT area who is willing to
help us find a solution to this problem. This will probably require
very short-term, intense programming. We can pay this person, but
probably not nearly as much as you would get in the Real World.
- Any other suggestions...
Please reply soon.
Eva Moy
emoy@mit.edu
(617)225-6629
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: NEC 4xi CD-ROM
Message-ID: <Cz2Bt6.Ju@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
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Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:41:29 GMT
Also, set it to SCSI2 mode.
You sure termination is ok? One at the physical end of your external scis-chain?
Note the drive most probably has internal termination set via a jumper on shipping.
This may also be true for other attached external devices.
Your error messages might indicate scsi bus troubles.
All this stems from my experience with the NEC3xi, though.
Juergen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: byer@mv.us.adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
In-Reply-To: mjh@math.mit.edu's message of Fri, 11 Nov 94 13:34:06 GMT
Message-ID: <BYER.94Nov11133142@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila>
<1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 21:31:42 GMT
Michael J Hopkins writes:
Michael> The video is a little funny sometimes--especially the default font
Michael> settings for the menu items and for the file names. For some
Michael> reason these "thin" (ie not bold) fonts seem to fool the color
Michael> recovery system, and the characters look blurry. If you look
Michael> closely it is because some of the pixels next to the characters are
Michael> shaded gray. Under HPUX the system uses thicker, larger fonts.
Michael> You can, of course make this kind of change in preferences. It is
Michael> a minor nuisance, and you don't notice it if you sit back from the
Michael> screen a bit, or if you have the system use a bold font face.
Hm. I would have thought they would have done a better job in this case. I
would have thought the blurring algorithm would've been "If the change in
color doesn't last more than one pixel, _and_ the color difference is below
a threshold, then blur". That algorithm would've kept smaller characters
sharp. Or, maybe they just don't have the threshold set right.
Better would have been to expose the blur-no-blur as opcodes in the
framebuffer. Then NeXT could've written a driver, so that you'd get DPS's
halftones (the hardware one's HP is using aren't particularly great :-) blurred
slightly in images, and unblurred text.
Michael> I also don't like the keyboard and mouse.
It's _awful_. Having to switch between five (at least) different keyboards,
I've had to lower my standards. But HP has gone to the Dec school of
keyboard design and taken everything to heart. Those funky keys along the
left side - especially that shrunken shift key! - really mess things up.
The keys next to the A and Z should be at least two keys wide, and the one
next to the A should be mappable as Control. The Dec and HP keyboards are
the only ones lame enough to violate that. And what's that escape key doing
_there_?!? Tho' that's not as bad as F11 :-).
--
Scott Byer NeXTMail: byer@mv.us.adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated These are *my* opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: steve@talus.talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the best portable for running NSFIP?
Date: 11 Nov 1994 22:12:04 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3a0q7k$brg@news.blkbox.com>
References: <39tf1g$qc3@potogold.rmii.com>
In article <39tf1g$qc3@potogold.rmii.com> dan@jughead.opensource.com
(Daniel J. Gamble) writes:
> In article <38onb2$sul@lorne.stir.ac.uk> djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald J
> Baird) writes:
> > Anyone out there have any experience running NSFIP on a portable?
> > More specifically, does anyone have suggestions as to what portable
> would be
> > the best to buy, and whether colour or mono is best? I have heard the
> NEC
> > portables work well, but would be happier if someone out there who had
> actually
> > used one could substantiate this!
> > --
> > Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926
> > Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133
> > Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
> > Stirling University
> > Scotland FK9 4LA
> >
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * NeXTMail Welcome! * * * * * * * * * *
>
> I understand that Talus makes a very nice NEXTSTEP notebook capable of
> 8-bit color. You might want to ask them: info@talus.com.
>
> Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
Thanks for the plug Dan, but it's actually 16-bit color :-))
Steve Sarich
steve@talus.com
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dual IDE drives and automounts
Date: 12 Nov 1994 00:51:32 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3a13ik$b6d@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <Cz1Aqr.2zt@deltos.uucp>
In article <Cz1Aqr.2zt@deltos.uucp>,
Steven R. Staton <steve@deltos.uucp> wrote:
>I have not been able to get NS to function on a Promise VLB caching controller
>and two Maxtor drives (LXT-7345A and the older LXT-340A -- both IDE). The 7345
>currently has a NS/3.2 and MS-DOS partition, and the 340A has a similar setup.
>Regardless of which drive I boot from, NS chokes when doing the automount of
>the other drive.
>
>How do I disable automounting of the other disk? If I could reliably do this,
>I could get by with a small DOS boot partition on drive 1 and the rest of DOS
>on drive 2. Is there some magic to getting NS to like dual IDE drives? I've
>tried variations on matching spindle speeds, and making each drive a sync
>slave or master.
I use the following to disable automounting of SCSI drives. I dunno
if it will work if modified for IDE (/dec/hd1a or similiar): Place
in /etc/fstab.
/dev/sd2a "/Untitled" ignore noauto,rw,noquota 1 2
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: @^#$! NS 3.2 Installation - GIVING UP SOON!
Message-ID: <Cz4qw3.D2H@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <39vdfv$9hc@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:02:12 GMT
Stephan Mantler (smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
: [Installing Adaptec 274x Series EISA SCSI Adaptor]
: The Driver was loaded successfully. Press Return to continue.
: NeXT Mach 3.2:Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993, root(rc-builder):
: mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
: (...)
: ISA bus
Your system is a bit different from mine(BusLogic 747S and AMI
Enterprise IV), Stephan, so I probably can't help much, but I am
puzzled at the above information. Are you using an EISA or ISA
system?
: btw, it cost me considerable time making install find the driver, as
: it wants NS-formatted floppies with the uncompressed driver in a spec.
: directory. Heck, only root can uncompress packages! (bothered a LOT of
: people to get me the driver.)
Hang in there, partner! I need more than two hands to count the
number of installs I went through. I hadn't had so much fun since my
collegiate fraternity "hell week". =8^o Patience is definitely a
virtue, and IMHO worth it. BTW, there are lots of helpful folks on
these channels; some equally good vendor support as well.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Need help with 3.2 install
Message-ID: <bbutlerCz4yro.F2o@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 03:52:35 GMT
Forgive me if these are obvious questions. I am attempting to install a
used copy of 3.2 which was sent to me without the installation instructions.
Here is my hardware configuration:
486DX2/66 generic motherboard, AMI BIOS
Adaptec 1540B - configured with defaults
NEC CDR-210 CD-ROM - tried SCSI ID 4 and 2
Quantum 80Mb hard drive - tried SCSI ID 1 and 0
I know the drive is too small. I'm just trying to make sure my hardware
config will work before I sink money into a big drive. So far it's been a
nightmare.
No matter what I do I get a "Kernel Trap" after the system tries to "register"
sc0. I'm assuming sc0 is the CD ROM?
I didn't know how to configure the Adaptec so I just left it as it was.
Should the BIOS be enabled or disabled? (the error occurs either way).
Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
--
-------
Bryan Butler
bbutler@netcom.com
From: cz@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Christopher R. Zach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NextStation 040-->Nitro?
Date: 11 Nov 1994 23:00:23 -0500
Organization: Guest of MIT AI and LCS labs
Message-ID: <3a1ekn$6cg@bronze.lcs.mit.edu>
Summary: Turbocharging an 040 system with Mac parts
I've been following the recent burst of posts on upgrading the horsepower of
the NeXTStation 040/25 systems. It would appear that the 060 chip is not
going to work due to the instruction problems, and that jamming the clock
speed up isn't going to make the NeXT run forever...
However, I've been wondering about a different tack. In the latest MacWorld,
I saw what appeared to be the answer to my performance prayers. For $399, there
is an "upgrade board" for a Centris 610 system.
The upgrade board consists of a 040/40 and a clock and a few circuits mounted
on a board that is plugged into the CPU socket on a Centris board. The 610,
having a 25Mhz CPU native, is then boosted up to an 040/40. I also saw the
same thing for a Quadra 610, except it was a 68040/50 model for $599.
The big question: Anyone care to speculate if this will work in a NeXT? With
the 040's ability to spoof the I/O--rest of the system while running at a
faster clock rate, it sounds possible. Also, this thing looks like it has
no other parts other than a simple "pull out the old chip, put in the new".
In addition, the C610 is a lot like the NeXT (040/25 system, about the same
time release, medium speed 30pin memory, etc). Oh, this one includes a FPU, as
does the 040/50.
Clearance might be a problem, depends on how the board was made for the Centris
.
My guess would be that this thing would work, and would knock up the speed
of a 040/25 enough to make it worth $400ish.
Any comments//suggestions?
Chris Zach
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ppd for TI microWriter 23?
Date: 11 Nov 1994 07:02:12 -0700
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
Message-ID: <39vth4$m0h@ame2.math.arizona.edu>
References: <39mpis$skn@ame2.math.arizona.edu> <784230346snz@cedar.demon.co.uk> <Cyz472.CsD@freenet.buffalo.edu>
In article <Cyz472.CsD@freenet.buffalo.edu>,
Douglas Boyce <ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>
>Anyone attempting to use a properly documented PostScript printer with a
>Next System I would suggest to thoroughly search the DOS/Windows/Mac disks
>supplied with the printer. Unless something really strange has happened
>you will find a file called *.ppd. Once you find it you may have to rename
>it when transferring to the NeXT.
>
I rechecked my diskes came with microWriter PS23. Unfortunately, I still
can not find it. Might be, it hids in somewhere, but I just can not find it.
I also checked ``ftp.adobe.com''. And you guess what. There is no file for
TI microWriter PS23, but you do find TI microLaser PS23. So if anybody
knows where it is, please tell me. Thanks.
Yuwen Cheng
yucheng@ame2.math.arizona.edu (no NeXT-mail)
yucheng@tepache.math.arizona.edu (NeXT-mail welcome)
From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hardware supported by 3.3
Date: 12 Nov 1994 10:54:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <3a26su$c99@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I know NeXT says that 3.3 has over 50 drivers, but does any one know
what they might be? I'm specifically intersted in what video boards
it supports out of the box.
Also, earlier in the news group someone posted that NS only supported
two scsi cd-rom drives, a NEC one and a Sony one, is that true? I was
under impression that any scsi cdrom drive was supported as long as the
scsi adapter was supported, am I mistaken?
thanks
-cft
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with ProAudioSpectrum and music CD-ROM hookup
Date: 12 Nov 1994 07:42:45 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a1rll$7t1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <39h1ju$95l@news.onramp.net>
apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) writes:
> We have been experiencing a small problem that may have a simple
> solution. After applying both patches to the PAS driver,
> CDPlayer.app works but only after pressing enter when the app is
> launched. The app initializes the CDROM drive properly but the
> sound comes through very faintly until the user presses RETURN.
> After that, everything works fine.
Hmm. Interesting. I notice a similar problem with the PAS card
in my DECpc XL560. Music CD's play fine thru the headphone jack,
but the hookup between the CD-ROM player and the PAS card didn't
seem to be working. I eventually realized that it was working,
it's just that it was very quiet and there didn't seem to be any
way to turn up the volume.
I wonder if there's some special command (or something) that one
needs to send to the PAS card (or to the CD-ROM drive) for that
connection to work. Anyone know? In my case I don't *use* the
CDPlayer.app, so the trick with hitting the return key isn't an
option for me.
> BTW: the CDROM drive is an NEC 3x 510.
> Thank you for any help you can provide.
In my case, the CD-ROM drive is a Toshiba 4101 drive.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NEC 4xi CD-ROM
In-Reply-To: chuckie@panix.com's message of 10 Nov 1994 08:03:33 -0500
To: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Nov10114322@freedom.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <RDL.94Nov9050623@world.std.com> <39t5n5$h6e@panix.com>
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 16:43:22 GMT
In article <39t5n5$h6e@panix.com> chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) writes:
In article <RDL.94Nov9050623@world.std.com>,
Robert La Ferla <rdl@world.std.com> wrote:
>Has anyone successfully installed a NEC 4xi CD-ROM on a NS/I system? So far
>it has caused me nothing but grief. A message similar to the one below
>happens when I do a scsimodes /dev/rsd1a. The info about the drive does
>appear after the error message though.
>
>Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL.
>Nov 8 14:34:29 localhost mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Mode Sense
Um, why is it saying that the error is on sd1 when it is trying to access
target 2 (in theory sd2).
Maybe because there is no device at target 0 or target 1 ? sd numbers
are assigned in order of ascending SCSI target IDs, but SCSI target
IDs which don't have any device on them are skipped.
Ahh, I know why. SCSI ID numbers 0 through 3 are conventially hard
drives. I have my CD drive set to ID 4 and it works fine.
I don't think there is such a convention. Apart from some details of
bus arbitration all SCSI target IDs are created equal and any device
can work at any target ID.
This may not be your problem, but try setting it to ID 4 and see what happens.
For all I know this may work. However if it does, this shows an
indisputable (and rather uncommon) bug in either the CD ROM, host
adaptor or the driver.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: g++-2.6.x on P90 or Gecko, anyone?
Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Nov12130211@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk>
Sender: news@festival.ed.ac.uk (remote news read deamon)
Organization: ICAPB, Edinburgh University
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 13:02:11 GMT
I am trying to decide whether to buy P90 or Gecko. My primary
concern is the speed with which we can run simulations. I would very
much appreciate it if if someone would time a small test program for
me. The reason I turn to the net rather than to the vendors (who
ought to be willing to do this kind of thing even though they tend to
ignore customers who do not buy in hundreds) is that I use C++ and
need the template support of at least g++-2.6.0. Imagine calling up a
pc company and trying to find someone who a) has heard of NEXTSTEP, and b)
knows how to install gcc...
If you have a P90 system or a Gecko (I would actually be interested in
seeing how a Canon machine does as well) with gcc-2.6.x installed and
would be willing to untar a file and type "make", please let me know.
Thanks,
-Magnus
--
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology and Evolution
The University of Chicago
Temporary address:
magnus@mimer.cap.ed.ac.uk (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger)
ICAPB
The University of Edinburgh
King's Buildings
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Edinburgh, EH9 3JT
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From: jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 12 Nov 94 16:15:31
Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <jfb.94Nov12161531@glenan>
References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> <1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Mike Hopkins says
>> Now I'll concentrate on the negative side. Let me preface this by
>> saying that I really like the machine. I just haven't seen some of
>> the following things mentioned on the net yet.
>>
>> First of all, 32M of RAM seems barely enough. I may have to buy some
>> more once Mathematica comes out. HP memory is not outrageously
>> expensive, though.
>>
that's quite true, in order to have a decent system you definitly need 64 mo, as any risc computer binaries are much bigger.
Jean-FranÛois
---
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Departement de Biomathematiques
Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere
75013 Paris
France
jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr (NeXT mail O.K)
tel : (33) 1 45 86 19 98
fax : (33) 1 45 83 87 20
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 13:10:10 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <AilEI2_00iUxI2i5VL@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <jfb.94Nov12161531@glenan>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by
jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr
> that's quite true, in order to have a decent system you definitly need 64 mo,
> as any risc computer binaries are much bigger.
Huh?
Well, I'll bite: why are binaries for a RISC architecture "much bigger"
than binaries for a CISC architecture?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
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From: nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI NCR+PCI COGENT
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 11:40:39 -0800
Organization: Western Canada
Message-ID: <nickj-1211941140390001@port59.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
References: <39tcnu$nbt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <3a0e5u$aj2@news.blkbox.com>
In article <3a0e5u$aj2@news.blkbox.com>, steve@talus.talus.com (Steve
Sarich III) wrote:
> In article <39tcnu$nbt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy
> BROCKBANK) writes:
What I have found is if you remove the burst mode on the Cogent card and
make sure the instance.0 file has the NCR driver loaded last, it should
work. We have found numerous problems with the Cogent card with respect to
the NCR
Nick
--
Nick Jacquet
nickj@prime.wimsey.com
Prime ConneXtion Systems
Vancouver, BC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: NEC 4xi CD-ROM
In-Reply-To: Charles William Swiger's message of Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:48:39 -0500
Message-ID: <RDL.94Nov12094915@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <8ikeB7W00Uh787mWAT@andrew.cmu.edu>
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 14:49:15 GMT
Just wanted to let everyone know that my NEC 4Xi works great! I had to
go into the Adaptec setup screen and turn off sync negotiation and reduce
the transfer rate to the lowest setting. Don't be alarmed about the latter
since even at the lowest setting, it's much more than the CD-ROM can do
anyway.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
From: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu (Michael Alan Schaeffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 12 Nov 1994 13:15:42 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <3a348u$qhr@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu>
References: <AilEI2_00iUxI2i5VL@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <AilEI2_00iUxI2i5VL@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 12-Nov-94 Re: Gekko systems by
>jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr
>> that's quite true, in order to have a decent system you definitly need 64 mo,
>> as any risc computer binaries are much bigger.
>
>Well, I'll bite: why are binaries for a RISC architecture "much bigger"
>than binaries for a CISC architecture?
My understanding of this phenomanon (sp?) is that, because the RISC
instructions do less than CISC instructions, you need more of them.
Hence, the binaries are larger for RISC machines.
-Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ajaffray@quads.uchicago.edu (/tmp/ajaffray)
Subject: Which 28.8k modem to buy for NeXTStation?
Message-ID: <1994Nov12.194117.28883@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchicago strn fanclub
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 19:41:17 GMT
I will soon be the owner of a NeXTStation '040 whose primary use
will be SLIP dialup, and I'd like to buy a 28.8kbps modem for
this purpose. I know that I'll need to get an external modem,
but aside from that, what should I be looking for in the modem?
Can I pick up a random external modem and be reasonably sure
it'll work?
Reports or suggestions from anyone who's set up SLIP software
successfully would also be appreciated; I'm pretty much starting
from scratch here.
Thanks,
Alan
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 128bit video cards
Date: 12 Nov 1994 14:37:32 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a35hs$4l9@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi all,
Im interested in getting one of the new 128bit video cards.
As far as I know I think there are only 2 of them out right now. One, is made
by #9 (anyone know the official name?). I think this card can have up to 8meg
of VRAM to support 1600X1200@32bit color.
I think ELSA also has one. At the very least it has 8meg of VRAM and does
support 1600X1200@32bit color. Although, Im not sure it is a 128bit card.
The ELSA already supports NS, which makes it really nice. But I imagine the
#9 will also be supported...
Anyone know which of these two are better and why?
Thanks for the info.
Later, John
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3.3 HardWare any idea on Drivers?
Message-ID: <1994Nov12.135832.6326@rivers>
From: bm01@uwrf.edu (Brian S Mogged)
Date: 12 Nov 94 13:58:31 CST
So, I am planning to buy NeXTStep 3.3 and I look on the
announcement sheet and it said "over 50 drivers..." supported. Does
anybody know WHAT hardware is being supported and what NEW hardware
drivers is going to be. I am buying a INTEL box mostly for NeXTStep
so I would like to buy good hardware (i.e. good soundcard) and not run
some of the hardware that is listed in 3.2 as supported....
So does anybody have any information on what hard is supported
in 3.3 of NeXTStep.. Anyone Anyone...
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From: uk05899@mik.uky.edu (christopher edward etesse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: IBM DSAS-3540 540mb Hard Drive inside Black Station
Date: 12 Nov 94 20:25:16 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Message-ID: <uk05899.784671916@mik.uky.edu>
I used to have the Quantum 105mb hard drive inside the station. I hooked up my SyQuest external 105 mb hard disc and ran Build Disk on it. I then
took out the Q105 and placed the IBM540mb inside the station. Iset the SyQuest to ID0 and the IBM to ID1 left a jumper to allow termination. I then booted off the SyQuest adn ran Build Disk on the IBM drive. I can boot off the IBM drive only with the SyQuest connected(now at ID6) and the power on. If I
try to boot only from the IBM I can't even get the Loading from Disc to begin to spin -- any ideas?
Chris
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 17:59:24 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <0ilIXAy00iUx84oahD@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3a348u$qhr@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Nov-94 Re: Gekko
systems by Michael A. Schaeffer@cs.
> >Well, I'll bite: why are binaries for a RISC architecture "much bigger"
> >than binaries for a CISC architecture?
>
> My understanding of this phenomanon (sp?) is that, because the RISC
> instructions do less than CISC instructions, you need more of them.
However, a RISC machine has many more registers than a CISC, and the
compiler has to output more instructions to spill and restore temporary
values onto the stack. When you consider that modern compilers normally
don't use many of the more complex CISC instructions, the net result is
that RISC and CISC binaries are approximately the same size.
> Hence, the binaries are larger for RISC machines.
Oh, RISC may average 10% or so larger than CISC overall, depending on
just what you want to benchmark for executable file sizes, but there
just isn't a major difference-- perform your own builds and see for
yourself.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
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From: cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 3.3 HardWare any idea on Drivers?
Date: 13 Nov 1994 00:13:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <3a3lo1$i86@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1994Nov12.135832.6326@rivers>
In article <1994Nov12.135832.6326@rivers>,
Brian S Mogged <Brian.S.Mogged@uwrf.edu> wrote:
> So, I am planning to buy NeXTStep 3.3 and I look on the
>announcement sheet and it said "over 50 drivers..." supported. Does
>anybody know WHAT hardware is being supported and what NEW hardware
>drivers is going to be. I am buying a INTEL box mostly for NeXTStep
>so I would like to buy good hardware (i.e. good soundcard) and not run
>some of the hardware that is listed in 3.2 as supported....
>
> So does anybody have any information on what hard is supported
>in 3.3 of NeXTStep.. Anyone Anyone...
Me too!! I'd like to know, if anyone has a list, a site w/ the list, or
just some good ideas, could they post it?
thanks a boundle
-cft
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From: bas@Neuromancer.HACKS.Arizona.EDU (Dragon HACKer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardware supported by 3.3
Date: 13 Nov 1994 03:20:22 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <3a40lm$7gc@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
References: <3a26su$c99@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Christopher Flash Tarnas (cft@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: I know NeXT says that 3.3 has over 50 drivers, but does any one know
: what they might be? I'm specifically intersted in what video boards
: it supports out of the box.
: Also, earlier in the news group someone posted that NS only supported
: two scsi cd-rom drives, a NEC one and a Sony one, is that true? I was
: under impression that any scsi cdrom drive was supported as long as the
: scsi adapter was supported, am I mistaken?
Well, so far I am able to gather little info, but here it is:
NEC CDR-74
Sony-541
Toshiba TXM3401
Toshiba XM-4101 B
Plextor 4Plex
Some of these might need 3rd-party driver, so therefore might not be
fully supported by NS3.3. Anyone wanna explain more?
: thanks
: -cft
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ellidz@ellis.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: Re: Hardware supported by 3.3
Message-ID: <1994Nov13.181557.26128@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchi.test cabal
References: <3a26su$c99@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <3a40lm$7gc@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 18:15:57 GMT
I just picked up the latest compat. guide for 3.2, and noticed that the
#9 GXe 64 Pro PCI was listed. I was under the impression that there
would be a Vlb driver coming out soon. Is this going to be in 3.3, or is
it a 3rd party product?
--Larry.
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI NCR+PCI COGENT
Date: 13 Nov 1994 18:40:15 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <3a5mif$hnb@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <Cz0Kqs.LIG@eunet.ch> <39tcnu$nbt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <39vtgu$9om@news.nynexst.com>
In article <39vtgu$9om@news.nynexst.com> hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu) writes:
>Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>
>: Yes. The drivers are incompatible.
>
>Will NS 3.3 support my NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI card and Diamond
>Stealth 64 PCI (S3 964)? How about AMD PCnet32/PCI ethernet
The Diamond card is supported in 3.2 and up. The NCR card is listed
under the newest compatability guide as being "planned" for Q2/95,
or Q1/95. I might be wrong though... it's been a while since I
looked at a guide.
>It looks to me NS is not only expensive but also crippled.
NT, however, ships with drivers for both and autodetects and
autoconfigures itself. So far, I'm impressed with NT (if only
because Win3.1 sucks so badly). Despite several student-project-like
horribly ugly bugs in NT 3.5, it's possible to get real work
done. Telnet, nfs, emacs, etc... UNIX, it's not. A UNIX killer,
it's not. An alternative? Yes. Weaker by far, but usable. I may
have written my last NEXTSTEP app.
- db
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Subject: NeXTstation serial port speeds
Message-ID: <Cz77p8.1E3@blackmaus.com>
Sender: dino@blackmaus.com (Dino Bagdadi)
Organization: Blackmaus Design, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 09:00:44 GMT
I recently remember a thread going on here about setting the serial port speed of a
NeXTstation past the 38,400 baud limit, particularly into the 57,600 baud range.
I'd like to get any info from the person who posted that.
I have dial-out uucp connection for my mail/news, and would like to be able to set the
port (if indeed possible) to its max.
I've tried modifying my /etc/uucp/L-devices and /etc/uucp/L.sys files to accomodate a
speed of 57,600, but uucico gives me this error:
ASSERT ERROR (uucico) pid: 1591 (11/13-03:22) BAD SPEED (-1)
when I try to poll at that speed.
You can either post to this newsgroup or email me with the info.
Thanks in advance,
---
Dino Bagdadi
Blackmaus Design
dino@blackmaus.com (NeXT email expected!)
PGP key available on request.
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Blackmaus Design
305.935.6325
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: TTYDSP and dialing in
Message-ID: <Cz7K3y.3K4@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <39ru4f$png@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 13:28:45 GMT
I'm using TTYDSP for dialing in via a modified am (answering
machine). I experienced no problems doing so. Maybe you should
supply more information. With only this little I'm not able
to help you.
--
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kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT 400 dpi Laser - Which HP toner can I use?
Date: 14 Nov 1994 03:07:13 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a6k91$r7e$1@heifetz.msen.com>
References: <39r79p$hp0@netnews.upenn.edu>
The following toner cartridges work in the NeXT 400 dpi laser
printer:
Canon EP-S
HP 92295A
The following printers also use these cartridges:
Apple LaserWriter Plus
HP LaserJet III
Roland
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From: HSFV15B@prodigy.com (DAVID BRAUN )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT System: What Kind?
Date: 14 Nov 1994 05:36:09 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a6t09$1feq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>
I currently only have a 486-25 laptop that I run OS/2 Warp on...
I want to get a desktop system that will run NeXTStep and I am looking
for advice as to what kind of system I should get... That is, Intel,
Black, or
what other platforms are supported? I am willing to put a lot into a
system
and I want to be sure that I will get a system that will continue to be
supported
and that is fast enough for a long time to come... I fear that the Black
(Motorola) hardware is incredible slow compared to, say, a Pentium90,
but I
hate the Intel system design (very poorly integrated systems, IMO) I
have
heard rumor that there will be a version of NeXTStep for PowerPC's - If
so,
when will it be available, and what systems would it run on? Any other
platforms that NeXT will run on?
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Compaq Prolinea 4/100
Message-ID: <Cz8vBq.IB5@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 06:28:38 GMT
We have a Compaq DX4/100 machine and we'd quite like to install NS on it.
Firstly, it only finds the first 16Mb of RAM, despite the fact that the system
setup correctly reports 32Mb. Secondly, does anyone know what the on-board
video is?
Anyone else got NS up and running on this machine?
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Compaq Prolinea 4/100
Message-ID: <Cz8vxI.IDx@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
References: <Cz8vBq.IB5@xexos.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 06:41:41 GMT
In article <Cz8vBq.IB5@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes:
> We have a Compaq DX4/100 machine and we'd quite like to install NS on it.
> Firstly, it only finds the first 16Mb of RAM, despite the fact that the
system
> setup correctly reports 32Mb. Secondly, does anyone know what the on-board
> video is?
>
> Anyone else got NS up and running on this machine?
RTFM! It turns out that the Prolinea is actually a Deskpro XE, and that the
Deskpro XE66 is actually a supported system, there are NeXTAnswers 1671, 1700,
1701 supply details on the video and how to get the right amount of memory
showing.
--
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Compaq Prolinea 4/100
Message-ID: <Cz8xr6.IHs@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
References: <Cz8vxI.IDx@xexos.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 07:21:06 GMT
In article <Cz8vxI.IDx@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes:
> RTFM! It turns out that the Prolinea is actually a Deskpro XE, and that the
> Deskpro XE66 is actually a supported system, there are NeXTAnswers 1671,
1700,
> 1701 supply details on the video and how to get the right amount of memory
> showing.
Teach me to post before doing. The latest Qvision drive, number 1700, doesn't
actually appear to support whatever RAMDAC is in the latest machines. Very
boring.
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Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mdan@diku.dk (Michael Daldorph Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Advice Running NEXTSTEP on an HP
Message-ID: <Cz079x.8n3@odin.diku.dk>
Sender: mdan@ask.diku.dk
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 14:08:20 GMT
References: <38rju3$fbh@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
bradshaw@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Michelle Bradshaw) writes:
>We are going to be getting a new file server with 8 GB (yeah!). Unfortunately,
>it's not a certified or even listed system. Has anyone out there installed
>NEXTSTEP on something called an HP NetServer LM Series? I'm specifically
As far as I know NeXTSTEP is only available for the HP 9000-series.
Michael
<mdan@diku.dk>
<Department of Computer Science>
<University of Copenhagen>
<Denmark>
From: ridgway@rutherford.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardware supported by 3.3
Date: 14 Nov 1994 05:14:10 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <3a6rn2$eje@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3a26su$c99@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <3a26su$c99@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Flash Tarnas) writes:
>
>Also, earlier in the news group someone posted that NS only supported
>two scsi cd-rom drives, a NEC one and a Sony one, is that true? I was
>under impression that any scsi cdrom drive was supported as long as the
>scsi adapter was supported, am I mistaken?
>
This is my impression too, but you must be careful out there in the
cheapo PC world. I got a SCSI CDROM player, said "SCSI CDROM" right
there on the box, along with the name of a major company (which shall
remain nameless, mostly because I've forgotten it) and it just didn't
work, no matter what I did. It turned out that it would work only with
the manufacturer's proprietary "SCSI" card and drivers. Now the
manufacturer was not the major company whose name was on the box. I
eventually reached tech support of the major company, and they told me
that their only association with the piece of hardware that I purchased
was making the laser, and if they make the laser, their name goes on
the box, by law. So anybody can make a CDROM player, put in a sony
laser, put "Sony" on the box, and conveniently leave their name off the
box...the tech support person didn't seem very happy about this state of
affairs, but couldn't help me. I never even found out the name of the
company that manufactured that CDROM player, I got it traded in for a
Teac. It worked perfectly the first time.
doug.
From: sfk@dannug.dk (Steen Kroyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ColorStation with 3rd party Monitors
Date: 10 Nov 1994 18:15:12 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <39tnvg$bbo@aho.dk>
References: <39p93a$gom@news.csus.edu>
In article <39p93a$gom@news.csus.edu> arman@futon.SFSU.EDU (Arman Khalili) writes:
> it looks that my 17" Fimi is out. I was wondering
> if anyone has been successful connecting a 15" or 17"
> 3rd Party monitor.
>
> I am thinking of using the Mag 17" MG monitor.
> Any help is appreciated.
I recently had to replace the original black monitor on my
Colorstation. Something in the high-voltage circuits blew,
I guess. So I had to find a replacement.
But first I had to find out what kind of video signal
my slab was generating. That didn't take long: my color
slab generates an RGB/composite-sync-on-green signal.
Which pretty much means that you can use most garden variety
quality auto-sync, auto-detecting monitors.
Personally my choice is a Phillips Brilliance 17" monitor.
It works as a charm, has a really good picture and is
(at least here in Denmark) attractively priced.
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From: schulz@biw.cube.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 14 Nov 94 08:25:14
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <schulz.94Nov1482514@gecko03>
References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Sorry, but there is no 3.3 for Gecko!
---
Kay Schulz
schulz@biw.cube.de
Chaos has been found in systems as diverse as the weather, chemical reactions, biological systems, and even computer networks!
--- Grady Booch ---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: A.R.J.B.Simonis@twi.tudelft.nl (Armand Simonis)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 64 PCI Supported?
Message-ID: <Cz98n1.7sL@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>
Sender: news@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (TWI News Administration)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
References: <intrepidCz10vK.AJz@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 11:16:12 GMT
In article <intrepidCz10vK.AJz@netcom.com> intrepid@netcom.com (Intrepid
Traveller) writes:
> Are there any third party drivers for the Diamond Stealth 64 PCI that you guys
> know of for NeXTStep 486?
Use the Diamond Stealth 64 driver at ftp@next.com. Works great with DS 64 4 MB
VRAM PCI at my Intel Plato-board.
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'Every correct and minimal consuming algorithm must be elegant'
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [@^#$! NS 3.2 Installation] - NOW WORKS!
Date: 14 Nov 1994 12:27:52 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3a7l48$m98@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <Cz4qw3.D2H@eskimo.com>
In article <Cz4qw3.D2H@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
writes:
> Stephan Mantler (smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
> : [Installing Adaptec 274x Series EISA SCSI Adaptor]
> : The Driver was loaded successfully. Press Return to continue.
>
> : NeXT Mach 3.2:Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993, root(rc-builder):
> : mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
> : (...)
> : ISA bus
>
> Your system is a bit different from mine(BusLogic 747S and AMI
> Enterprise IV), Stephan, so I probably can't help much, but I am
> puzzled at the above information. Are you using an EISA or ISA
> system?
>
I'm using an ISA VLB system. The 274x (EISA) and 284x (VLB) use the
same drivers, as both have the AIC-7770 Busmaster chip. Confusing
driver name... !
I finally had it run with an 1541 and figured that the NS driver wants
the 274x/284x adapter at 4c00, which is NOT the Adaptec default (1c00).
Thanks NeXTStep!
> : btw, it cost me considerable time making install find the driver, as
> : it wants NS-formatted floppies with the uncompressed driver in a spec.
> : directory. Heck, only root can uncompress packages! (bothered a LOT of
> : people to get me the driver.)
>
> Hang in there, partner! I need more than two hands to count the
> number of installs I went through. I hadn't had so much fun since my
> collegiate fraternity "hell week". =8^o Patience is definitely a
> virtue, and IMHO worth it. BTW, there are lots of helpful folks on
> these channels; some equally good vendor support as well.
>
Yes, patience is what you definitely need. I installed NS3.2 four times
this weekend (both base system and developer) only to find out that some-
thing killed the setup files... :-6
Now it finally runs...
If you want detailed info's on installing the 274x/284x series
adapter, mail me.
-SM
->The Object is The Advantage. <-
->The Installation is The Problem. <-
From: wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: URGENT HELP NEEDED - builddisk with Seagate ST 3655A fails
Date: 14 Nov 1994 13:29:06 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a7on2$ndc@news.tuwien.ac.at>
This weekend I tried to build a SG ST3655A IDE HDD for a friend of mine,
who doesn't have a SCSI CD-ROM to do the installing of NS himself and
needs his box quite urgently.
Naturally, it didn't work.
The tech specs:
My system is an Intel Plato P90 running NSFIP 3.2. Harddisk controller is
an Adaptec 1542CF with the updated driver from NeXTAnswers. I hooked the
IDE drive to the standard IDE adapter on the mainboard, installed the
driver, booted, and builddisk apparently got as far as "disk" (it
recognized the drive all right). First, builddisk said something about
"hdform not existing yet". Then it wrote a message to the console
indicating that the blocksize had to be increased due to some drive
geometry problem (4048 incr. to 7012 (!?)). The actual end came with a
message about a partially allocated inode.
Do I need a disktab entry to initialize an IDE drive? If so, does someone
have it for this drive type?
All help greatly appreciated!
Alexander Wilkie
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// Alexander Wilkie //
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From: tomas@softwell.se
Subject: NeXT and Artecon SCSI DAT problems, help needed
Message-ID: <1994Nov14.135114.2748@softwell.se>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: SoftWell AB
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 13:51:14 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to get a Artecon SCSI DAT-tapedrive (I think it is a HP35480A
inside the box) working with my NeXT. I have problems finding information
about how to set the dip-switches on the drive to get it to work. The
documentation only tells how to set switches for Sun, IBM, HP and SGI
workstations, but nothing about how it should be for a NeXT. The retailer
can't help me, they don't know either. I had it set for a Sun but it
stopped working when I uppgraded to NeXT-Step 3.2. I have tried different
settings and found that it works when it is set to work with a HP.
Is there someone who have used this drive and can help me?
--
Tomas Ruden, tomas@softwell.se | Opinions expressed above are my
SoftWell AB, Box 47007, 100 74 Stockholm | own and is not necessarily shared
SWEDEN | by SoftWell AB.
ph: +46 8 19 52 90, fax: +46 8 19 52 53 | "For a nice date: call strftime(3C)"
From: me@blennie.nrl.navy.mil (Ivan the terrible)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 14 Nov 1994 15:18:01 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a7v39$86v@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
References: <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila>
In article <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> jfb@biomath.jussieu.fr writes:
> i'm running a 712/80 since june with Nextstep. Quite frankly, compared
to my previous turbo-color it's a big progress : much faster basically.
There are still some bugs (serial driver e.g) but they 'll be corrected
with version 3.3. I had also some problems to find the same applications
running (mathematica not delivered, newsgrazer replaced by newsbase and
mmedit, and a few other but the situation is vastly improving).
> My feeling is Gecko running NeXTSTEP is great.
>
> Jean-Fran ois
>
> ---
Are there ways around the serial driver bugs. I think some of the bugs
include dropped characters. I am building a data collection system that
uses the serial port extensively. If the serial port is not functional, I
have to switch back to HP-UX.
Ivan
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gecko systems
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 09:59:00 +1000
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <godwin.454.001A9DB4@unixg.ubc.ca>
References: <Eikv_ZG00iV684a2tf@andrew.cmu.edu> <1994Nov14.165134.12695@cs.uno.edu>
I>: 3.3 for HP? Is it going to be available at the same time the other
>: platforms get 3.3?
>Chuck,
> I've heard (when I asked NeXT) that 3.3 won't be available until
>January or early February.
Well think about it...Is it worth it though?....IF 3.3 is available at Feb AND
4.0 is going to be announced summer....Knowing NeXT's AWESOME *sarcastically*
upgrade policy...Remember this time is a FULL upgrade OS AND
DEVELOPER....hmmmm $$$$$$$!=)
Godwin
From: roffel@biw.cube.de (Lee Roffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTDimension Problems!
Date: 14 Nov 1994 17:38:00 GMT
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Message-ID: <3a879o$go1@next01.biw.cube.de>
Keywords: next dimension
Hello...
.. I need to talk with someone with hardware / installation experience on
the NeXTDimension system.
UPS decided to break the box that my dimension board was being shipped in,
breaking one simm module, the simm socket, and who knows what else in the
process...
Simm socket replaced, Simm module replaced, board installed in cube.
--> dimension board recognized on system start..
--> followed shortly by system panic..
--> followed by futile attempts to restart the cube with or without the
dimension board.
--> OS was re-installed, and cube seems to work properly,
--> dimension board installed - but not recognized by system.
Any ideas??
ciao...
..Lee
NeXTMail: roffel@biw.cube.de
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 72-pin SIMMs on NextStation mono non-turbo?
Date: 10 Nov 1994 15:45:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <39tf72$16b@rosie.next.com>
References: <CyuxsE.Hsy@news2.new-york.net>
In article <CyuxsE.Hsy@news2.new-york.net> hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew
Hocker) writes:
> Question: Can you mix 1mb and 4-mb SIMMS? I know they have to be in
> pairs (due to the way the ROM looks at memory banks) so would this
> config work:
>
> Bank 1: 2x 1mb (SIMM slot 1, 2
> Bank 2: 2x 1mb 3, 4
> Bank 3: 2x 1mb 5, 6
> Bank 4: 2x 4mb 7, 8)
>
Nope. On monochrome non-turbo machines (the ones that have 30pin simms),
memory is in banks of 4. So you would need to ditch 4 of the 1mb simms
and put in 4mb, for a total of 20Meg.
joe
From: hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FirePower
Date: 14 Nov 1994 17:38:24 GMT
Organization: JPL Spacecraft Telecommunication Equipment
Message-ID: <3a87ag$ajm@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
FirePower (originally formed as Power House Systems, Inc. -- by
Canon and NeXT), is announcing a series of Power PC machines.
One of them, the MX4100/2 is a dual 100 MHz system, which sounds
like the rumored machine that Canon *might* be building and
NeXT *might* be porting to.
Does anyone know if there is a NeXT port to PowerPC happening,
and whether or not FirePower or Canon are in on it?
Thanks. -John
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: jliew@cs.uno.edu (liew)
Subject: Re: Gecko systems
Message-ID: <1994Nov14.165134.12695@cs.uno.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uno.edu
Organization: Smart Object Technologies, Inc.
References: <Eikv_ZG00iV684a2tf@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 16:51:34 GMT
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Nov-94 Re: Gecko
: systems by Nathan F. Janette@laplac
: > Running the 1280x1024x32 bit display seems to really hog
: > RAM. My 712/60 with 64 MB RAM swaps noticeably with not
: > that many apps running.
[snip]
: 3.3 for HP? Is it going to be available at the same time the other
: platforms get 3.3?
Chuck,
I've heard (when I asked NeXT) that 3.3 won't be available until
January or early February.
Nathan,
We were unable to set our box to that resolution. We're about
to install HP's VRAM board, maybe that'll do it. In any case, if
swapping is a problem, why not lower the res. a bit, or non-true color?
However, since I've never SEEN a true-color system, maybe it's worth
it? (-: We don't have any swapping problems at 1024x768 (RGB:888/24).
-- Jeff Vega
Smart Object Technologies, Inc.
(NeXTMail YES!) e-mail: jeff@smobject.com
From: russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (Clifford R. Bowers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 14 Nov 1994 22:53:20 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a8pp0INNqd0@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
References: <3a7v39$86v@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
> Are there ways around the serial driver bugs. I think some of the bugs
> include dropped characters. I am building a data collection system that
> uses the serial port extensively. If the serial port is not functional,
I
> have to switch back to HP-UX.
>
> Ivan
I have also experienced problems printing through the parallel port. The
gecko 712/60 completely freezes up when trying to do tasks in parallel
with printing large image files on the order of 1MB. Anybody had similar
problems?
I have another question. How do I pump up the volume on the gecko? The
controls described in the NextStep users manual have no control.
Thanks, Russ Bowers
From: russ@physical27.chem.ufl.edu (Clifford R. Bowers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 14 Nov 1994 22:54:39 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a8prgINNqd3@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
References: <3a7v39$86v@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
> Are there ways around the serial driver bugs. I think some of the bugs
> include dropped characters. > Ivan
I have also experienced problems printing through the parallel port. The
gecko 712/60 completely freezes up when trying to do tasks in parallel
with printing large image files on the order of 1MB. Anybody had similar
problems?
I have another question. How do I pump up the volume on the gecko? The
controls described in the NextStep users manual have no control.
Thanks, Russ Bowers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Need a SCANNER & software for NS/Intel
Message-ID: <thompsonCzAE0s.G0A@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 02:10:03 GMT
Anyone who is using a scanner with NS/Intel, please let me know
what brand/model, what software you're using with it, approx. how
much each of them cost, and any other comments you may have..
Thanks much. I will summarize.
Eric
thompson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Adaptec 2940 Wide-Fast SCSI-III
Message-ID: <Cz83Eq.7J@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Keywords: SCSI
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 20:25:38 GMT
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know of a driver for the AHA 2940W PCI SCSI-III controller ?
I know there is one for the AHA 2940 Fast-SCSI-II (from Talus if I recall
right) but I never heard of any drivers for the Fast-Wide SCSI-III
controller that allows 15 SCSI devices and a maximum throughput of 20MB/s
instead of the usual 10MB/s.
Furthermore, does anyone know about a 2GB or more HD that's Fast-Wide SCSI
(=SCSI-III) ?
Thanks for your answers.
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sam Goldberger's email (Spherical Solutions) is needed...
Date: 14 Nov 1994 20:04:03 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Message-ID: <3a91e3$1ku@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu>
What is Sam Goldberger's (Spherical Solutions) email? Is this still good:
sphere@netcom.com? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: More SyQuest infos (was Re: SyQuest SQ3270S for Data Exchange?)
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <CzAFDt.48r@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 02:39:28 GMT
References: <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de> <39m6eh$hts@news.cc.utah.edu>
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Hi,
thanks for the informative answer.
Terry Lambert (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote:
> In article <CyrtGF.2u4@prz.tu-berlin.de> wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) writes:
[...]
> ] What about the BSD file system of NeXTSTEP? Is exchanging
> ] cartridges possible?
> It's possible -- if you write a NeXTStep "BSD FS" for BSD, or a BSD
> "BSD FS" for NeXTStep.
I wasn't refering to *BSD and NeXTSTEP but only to NeXTSTEP (I just
used the term "BSD file system"). I'm aware of the fact that the
file system of NeXTSTEP is incompatible with other BSD file systems.
> It's easier if you use the media as a linearly addressable media --
> and then just tar directly to and from the raw device.
Yes, of course, but if I had want to do this I would have bought a
streamer...
> Making the device cross-mountable between operating system types is a
> non-trivial task, especially if you are missing source for one of those
> operating systems. This becomes more difficult (byte order problems and
> access alignment problems, etc.) if you are trying to move the media
> between machines with different processer architectures.
In the meantime I tryed it under NEXTSTEP. I formatted a 270MB media
on a black NeXT station (m86k CPU) and I was able to mount it
on a Intel-NeXT-machine and use it vica-versa.
So at least NeXTSTEP can handle different byte orders (what we knew
anyway, because there are the FAT binaries, etc.).
One expierence I made is that you shouldn't use a Partition Table
(by calling fdisk bevor disk -i) on the SyQuest media if you format
the media on a Intel-NeXT and want to use it in black hardware too.
It seems black NeXT don't understand the partition table scheme
from the Intel world. Without partition table NEXTSTEP uses the
whole disk like any other SCSI disk (from sector 0...n).
Of course you loose the option to split the media for different
O/S and to boot Intel-NeXT directly from it.
BTW, creating a partition table on the SyQuest media with
NeXTSTEP's fdisk gives another result then doing it under DOS
because NeXTSTEP detects 4 heads/17 sectors from the SyQuest drive
instead of 64 heads/32 sectors (with a Adaptec).
It might be that this (4/17 under NEXTSTEP) could be overridden
by making an entry in /etc/disktab.
Also you should use 'fdisk -useAllSectors /dev/rsd?h' because otherwise
fdisk limits the access to those sectors "which are bios-accessible".
To my knowledge these BIOS limits are 1024 cylinders, 256 heads and
64 sectors, but NEXTSTEP's fdisk limits then partitions to
a size of ~20MB - very strange.
As for DOS: I was told by a SyQuest person that as long as
you use the SQDRIVER.SYS the translation scheme doesn't matter
because the driver handles it (there is a additional translation
done by it).
[...interesting stuff deleted...]
Thomas
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From: schaefer@syrtis.geology.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 14 Nov 94 12:31:40
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <schaefer.94Nov14123140@syrtis>
References: <39or96$e2k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <jfb.94Nov99381@tequila> <1994Nov11.133406.20495@galois.mit.edu> <BYER.94Nov11133142@embassy.mv.us.adobe.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
>The keys next to the A and Z should be at least two keys wide, and the one
>next to the A should be mappable as Control. The Dec and HP keyboards are
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It is - just choose the NeXTUSA keyboard in the Preferences.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: [@^#$! NS 3.2 Installation] - NOW WORKS!
Message-ID: <CzAJEM.50r@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <Cz4qw3.D2H@eskimo.com> <3a7l48$m98@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 04:06:04 GMT
Stephan Mantler (smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
: Yes, patience is what you definitely need. I installed NS3.2 four times
: this weekend (both base system and developer) only to find out that some-
: thing killed the setup files... :-6
: Now it finally runs...
I know what you mean. It was quite awhile before I was able to get
past B&W VGA thanks to a glaring documentation error. After my first
few installations, I decided to hold off on the Developer package.
After many more re-installs, I was glad I made that decision. :^) As
it is, I'm still wading through administrative basics and have done
almost nothing with the Developer package. I'll probably get to it at
years end.
Glad to see you made it on board. Congradulations!
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: twasko@ccinet.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Wacom Tablet
Date: 15 Nov 1994 05:47:28 GMT
Organization: CCI Networks, a division of Corporate Computers Inc.
Message-ID: <3a9i1g$6ej@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca>
Does anyone know if there is a Wacom graphics tablet driver for
NS/I. NeXT supplies one for NS/M68k. I remember something about
Talus releasing a public driver, but can't locate it anywhere.
If anyone knows where (or if) such a driver lives, please email
me directly.
Thanks,
twasko@ccinet.ab.ca
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sam Goldberger's email (Spherical Solutions) is needed...
Date: 15 Nov 1994 06:41:21 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a9l6h$rqe@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3a91e3$1ku@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu>
In article <3a91e3$1ku@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
(Paul Nevai) writes:
> What is Sam Goldberger's (Spherical Solutions) email? Is this still
> good: sphere@netcom.com?
Try this:
Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley,
CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
415-381-9556--fax
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: schulz@biw.cube.de (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 15 Nov 1994 07:14:26 GMT
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a9n4i$i08@next01.biw.cube.de>
References: <39uv0e$8if@news.ycc.yale.edu>
>
> Running the 1280x1024x32 bit display seems to really hog
> RAM. My 712/60 with 64 MB RAM swaps noticeably with not
> that many apps running. Perhaps there are some memory
> leaks - there are plenty of little bugs that need to be
> fixed for the 3.3 release.
>
> For the record, I was able to get a 712/80 running with only
> 16 MB, but it wasn't very fast until I switched to 8-bit
> grayscale video.
>
NeXT said that they no plans to
make a 3.3 for Gecko. So don't think you will
get one now.
I think 4.0 will bring everything together
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Kay Schulz
schulz@biw.cube.de
Chaos has been found in systems as diverse as the weather, chemical
reactions, biological systems, and even computer networks!
--- Grady Booch ---
From: lierz@gmd.de (Wolfgang Lierz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Maxtor XT-8380S jumper settings
Date: 15 Nov 1994 15:19:33 GMT
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Message-ID: <3aaji5$gkn@omega.gmd.de>
I have an old 380 MB hdd of the above type from a NeXT machine and I want it to use
in another system. The disk seems to be configured for SCSI ID=1 but all jumper
pins next to the SCSI connector, where normally ID is set, are open.
In addition, some other settings seem to be non-standard for an Adaptec AHA-1542
controller in a PC.
Can somebody help?
wl
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Wide-Fast SCSI-III
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 15 Nov 1994 09:55:45 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <3aai5h$14m@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <Cz83Eq.7J@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
JacquesGarbi wrote:
: Does anyone know of a driver for the AHA 2940W PCI SCSI-III controller ?
: I know there is one for the AHA 2940 Fast-SCSI-II (from Talus if I recall
: right) but I never heard of any drivers for the Fast-Wide SCSI-III
: controller that allows 15 SCSI devices and a maximum throughput of 20MB/s
: instead of the usual 10MB/s.
There is no Talus 2940 driver. There will be a 2940 driver in 3.3,
although it does not appear to support the 2940W.
: Furthermore, does anyone know about a 2GB or more HD that's Fast-Wide SCSI
: (=SCSI-III) ?
Seagate Barracuda drives.
- Jay
From: cooncat@wombat (Jessica L Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Stinky NeXT 400dpi Laserprinter
Date: 15 Nov 1994 15:24:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <3aajqj$11i@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi all,
My 400dpi printer occassionally fills my room with the smell of hot toner. The
toner cartridge in it is probably two years old; I've never changed it since
I've had the printer. I opened the top and nosed around in it but aside from a
lot of dust didn't see anything unusual.
Has anyone experienced this problem with their NeXT printer before? What could
it indicate? Is there a FAQ out there on the care and feeding of your NeXT
printer?
Oh--it sits on its own wooden table and is a 1988 model. It doesn't have that
paper feeding problem. Please email assistance below. Thanks in advance.
--
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Jessica L. Mosher
email: cooncat@ella.mills.edu
NeXTmail: cooncat@wombat.mills.edu
"Life is what happens when you're making other plans."
--John Lennon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu (James P Klett)
Subject: Re: Black hardware SCSI
Message-ID: <CzBKM4.IpG@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <39r015$bt@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 17:30:22 GMT
Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
: Can someone please explain to me whether making black hardware
: SCSI-2-capable requires a hardware modification, or is it just a driver
: issue? If it's a driver issue, could DriverKit be used to write a black
: SCSI-2 driver? It would really be nice to be able to take advantage of
: the SCSI-2 capabilities of new drives.
: ---
Well, my black machine has a SCSI-2 port on the back, works great!
--
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Doris Hirt <Doris.Hirt@iis.unil.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will NextStep exist on Silicon Graphics
Date: 15 Nov 1994 08:42:47 GMT
Organization: Universite de Lausanne, Institut d'Informatique
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3a9sa7$970@cisun2000.unil.ch>
Hello,
Does anybody now if NextStep will one day run on Silicon Graphics ?
From: serge@seanet.com (Serguei Bakhteyarov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: test
Date: 15 Nov 1994 08:02:44 -0800
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA
Message-ID: <3aam34$h0p@kisa.seanet.com>
Summary: test
Keywords: test
Just a test, ignore it
Serge
Serguei Bakhteiarov
ZZ
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: INFO needed on boot PROM upgrade && SIMM banks
Date: 15 Nov 1994 17:07:10 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3aapru$pab@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Hello, netland!
On Thursday, I'll be upgrading the boot PROM in my mono slab to
2.2v66, so that I'll be able to mix parity- with non-parity SIMMs in
my machine. Has anyone else done this, and does it really work?
Also, can someone tell me which SIMM bank is 0? Is it the one closer
to the fan/disk, or the other? Couldn't find the information in the
FAQ.
Thanks for any insight,
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sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TTYDSP & Transys PNI
Keywords: TTYDSP
Message-ID: <10709@cg-atla.UUCP>
Date: 15 Nov 94 13:55:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA
The last time I spoke to someone at Yrrid, their
TTYDSP interface did not work with Transys PNI (1.12).
Does anyone know if this has been resolved? I'm
really itching to get a 28.8 hooked up to my cube
(SLIP is really adictive).
thanx,
-peter
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Slow keyboard entry
Date: 15 Nov 1994 18:26:33 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3aaugp$kee@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Does anybody out there have any clue as to what would make
keyboard entry really slow, but leave mouse activity
unaffected?
I've got a black slab here, and suddenly, everythink i type
on the keyboard takes almost forever to appear. However,
doing stuff with the mouse remains unaffected. Even the power
key takes a while to show up. The Command-~ and Command-Command-~
reset sequences seem to be unaffected though.
I'm guessing it's a heat problem, since the machine does
seem to be running a bit on the warm side, but I'd appreciate
input from anyone who may have encountered a similar problem.
The problem persists after a reset, and ps -aux doesn't show
anything out of the ordinary
Thanks alot.
Eugene
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Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
From: pburka@UPEI.CA (PETER WIEBE BURKA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Damaged ODs
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 19:08:34 GMT
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, CANADA
Message-ID: <pburka.296.784926514@UPEI.CA>
Keywords: OD
I'm having some problems with a few of my optical disks.
Two of the disks, when inserted, bring up the fix optical disk dialog. I
click on "ok" to fix the disk, the drive grinds for a while, and a message
comes up in the console telling me that the disk can't be fixed, and I've
got to run fsck manually. How can I do this? I've tried everything
obvious, but I can't manually mount the disk, or fsck it. (I'm still using
NS 3.0 on this machine.)
The other disk that causing problems won't even get to the fix-it dialog.
The cube just spits it out after a few seconds without letting me do
anything. I'm afraid the disk may have been overheated. Is there anything
that can be done about that?
Thanks in advance.
Peter
(No NeXTmail, please, MIME ok)
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 'Nother Gecko question....
Date: 15 Nov 1994 20:13:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <3ab4pg$h3k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
If you could get a
712/60 w/ 64M ram and 17" (1024x768)
and a
712/80 w/ 16M ram and 17" (1280x1024)
(with additional VRAM)
at roughly the same price, what would you do?
For about a grand I can upgrade the 80 to 32M
which seems to be a little slim for NS....
(As I type this in, I'm starting to think that
the answer is obvious.....Is it?)
Thanks in advance - Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashpal Singh)
Subject: [Q] Supported Video adapter with Video Input ?
Message-ID: <CzC5F4.GEI@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: ax759@freenet.carleton.ca (Rashpal Singh)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 00:59:28 GMT
Is there a Video Adapter which is compatible with NS/FIP which also has
Video Inputs (So that I can attach my handycam to it) ?
Any info/comments appreciated.
From: song@linux (Chang-Hyeon Song)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is NS run on HP Vectra VL2/66???
Date: 16 Nov 1994 04:53:59 GMT
Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here.
Message-ID: <3ac397$pac@ector.cs.purdue.edu>
Subject says all.
Can HP Vectra VL2 series run NS/FIP?
Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Memory config for 040 with OD chip?
Message-ID: <ezimmerm.4.000FD612@UWyo.Edu>
From: ezimmerm@UWyo.Edu
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:50:04
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming
Salutations!
I'm wondering what kind of memory an 040 board with the Optical Drive chip
uses? 30 pin 100 ns (same as 030 cube)? How many banks are there? 8?
Thanks,
Gene
ezimmerm@uwyo.edu
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Victor the Cleaner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: White Hardware Help
Date: 16 Nov 1994 01:22:45 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <3abmt5$95p@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Hi. I'm in the market for NS/I hardware (as I have a copy
of NS 3.2 Dev on CD). I just switched from black, and I am a little
confused. Just what is the minimum configuration for NS/I? Also, I
can get good prices on the following integrated (more or less) systems:
Data General, Compaq, and AST (486/66 or Pentium); Are any of these NS
compatable. Another alternative is that I could buy my components at the
a local computer show. Or, more succinctly, Just what does NS/I Compatable
mean? (I know what compatable means, I'm asking what the requirements
are). I really got spoiled on black and would like to stay loyal to NS.
Any assistance anyone could give would be very helpful.
96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ingo@ipge.toppoint.de (Ingo Prochaska)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2842A NSI3.2 ??
Message-ID: <1994Nov16.070418.26526@ipge.toppoint.de>
Organization: Private Site, Kiel, Germany
References: <39ls5e$f3o@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <1994Nov10.101201.692@sydney.bo.open.de>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 07:04:18 GMT
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Michael Mossal (mmo@sydney.bo.open.de) wrote:
> The 2842 works gread under NS and it is very much faster than any ISA Controller. The main
> problem is how to install the driver to the harddisk. You need a other Controller like the 1542
> to install it because the 2842 driver comes in a package.
No. You need not. But you need to put the package unpacked and with
an edited (to match your adapter) Instaces0.table to a NeXT-formated
floppy. Perhaps you know someone, who has a running NeXTStep and will
do that for you.
Ingo
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Gibson_Rory@pcp.ca (Rory Gibson)
Subject: Re: PCI NCR+PCI COGENT
Message-ID: <1994Nov15.234336.6780@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <39vtgu$9om@news.nynexst.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 23:43:36 GMT
In article <39vtgu$9om@news.nynexst.com> hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
writes:
> Darcy BROCKBANK (samurai@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>
> : Yes. The drivers are incompatible.
>
> : Apparently JCIS has modified their version of the (Talus) NCR driver
to
> : overcome this. If you have a JCIS machine, you win. Otherwise, you
lose.
> : Send back the Cogent card and get an Intel EtherExpress.
>
> : - db
>
>
> Will NS 3.3 support my NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI card and Diamond
> Stealth 64 PCI (S3 964)? How about AMD PCnet32/PCI ethernet
> card? Those cards are well supported by Linux and very fast.
> I was wondering what takes for Next to get drivers for them.
> Pay a consultant?
>
> It looks to me NS is not only expensive but also crippled.
>
Hmmm... This combination should work fine under the current NS3.2. The
NCR and Stealth 64 drivers are available and NeXT has a PCnet32/PCI for
the Canon object.station which should work with your card.
Rory.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Gibson_Rory@pcp.ca (Rory Gibson)
Subject: Re: Reinstalling NeXT Boot Program
Message-ID: <1994Nov15.235302.6922@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <3a0bdv$d0s@godot.cc.duq.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 23:53:02 GMT
In article <3a0bdv$d0s@godot.cc.duq.edu> brown@next.duq.edu (Jason
Brown) writes:
> I know I've read this topic on this group before but I don't have any
of
> the associated messages so I'm hoping the involved parties can easily
remember
> their answers.
>
> I had installed NeXTstep 3.2 on a series of Dell computers along with
DOS
> partitions and all of the associated messy-dos software.
>
> Everything was fine until some kind person upgraded a few of the
machines to
> DOS 6.2 and now, you guessed it, they don't offer the option of
booting
> NeXTstep anymore. I'm pretty sure the drives weren't repartitioned so
> if I can somehow re-install the NeXT boot program I think I'll be
fine.
>
> Does anyone have the solution?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Jason Brown
> Senior Software Engineer
> (NeXT Mail Welcome)
> brown@next.duq.edu
>
Using "fdisk" under DOS make the NEXTSTEP partition the active
partition. Reboot the machine to bring it up in NEXTSTEP and type:
"disk -b /dev/rsd0a" for a SCSI disk
or "disk -b /dev/rhd0a" for an IDE disk
You must be logged in as root to do this.
Rory.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Subject: Re: Damaged ODs
Message-ID: <1994Nov16.021246.8890@atd.rochester.ny.us>
References: <pburka.296.784926514@UPEI.CA>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 02:12:46 GMT
PETER WIEBE BURKA (pburka@UPEI.CA) wrote:
: Two of the disks, when inserted, bring up the fix optical disk dialog. I
: click on "ok" to fix the disk, the drive grinds for a while, and a message
: comes up in the console telling me that the disk can't be fixed, and I've
: got to run fsck manually. How can I do this? I've tried everything
: obvious, but I can't manually mount the disk, or fsck it. (I'm still using
: NS 3.0 on this machine.)
Why can't you manually mount it? You need to do it the old unix way...
Login as root. Use the "mount" command. (mount -r -n /dev/od0a /foo) It
will prompt you to insert the disk.
Once you have mounted it, DON'T WRITE ANYTHING ON IT. (better yet: mount
it read-only.) You may make it worse. Copy off the files you need. Then
do a low level format to clean it up.
Then you use "umount" to unmount it, and "disk -e" to eject it.
This should be in the FAQ. I don't think it is.
al.
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CUBE air filters is needed...
Date: 16 Nov 1994 11:17:26 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Message-ID: <3adbam$7kb@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu>
I'd like to buy a few NEW AIR FILTERS for my CUBE. Please respond by email
with quantity and price. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with ProAudioSpectrum and music CD-ROM hookup
Date: 15 Nov 1994 22:00:10 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3ac04a$5mu@cobber.cord.edu>
References: <39h1ju$95l@news.onramp.net> <3a1rll$7t1@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
[...]
>in my DECpc XL560. Music CD's play fine thru the headphone jack,
>but the hookup between the CD-ROM player and the PAS card didn't
>seem to be working. I eventually realized that it was working,
>it's just that it was very quiet and there didn't seem to be any
>way to turn up the volume.
I really like the ProAudioSpectrumPlus16 Driver because it provides a
Mixer that you can access in Preferences. The mixer allows you control
mic in, external input, master input, mixer out, master out, and bass &
treble levels. It is really very nice. Anyway, it fixes the problems
that you are experiencing.
I found the driver at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de but I didn't check its
path since they seem to be down right now.
>--
>Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
>ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
>Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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| doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Plan9, Amoeba, FreeBSD |
| doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: un7j@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Graphic Card Drivers
Date: 16 Nov 1994 18:14:49 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <3adi6p$39e@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: ET4000W32 S3/864 Driver NeXTstep
Hello out there!
to make things short: I do have some questions on drivers for
NeXTstep 3.3(!) concerning the following hardware:
1. Does the S3 driver of NeXTstep 3.3 support the 864 chip?
2. I do know that the ET4000W32 is supported with a beta driver. Does
this one also supports color? Anything special with it to be
mentioned?
Thank you for you efforts!
CU
-JF-
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NextStep monitor on Mac
Message-ID: <CzC4pv.1qw@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <39ur8d$ikk@portal.gmu.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 00:44:18 GMT
In article <39ur8d$ikk@portal.gmu.edu> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (csmith)
writes:
#Would it be possible to hook up a Black NextStep monitor to a macintosh?
#
#Where could I get info on th epin configuration and powerneeds of
#a NextStep Black Monitor. Oh, this is a model # N4000
Forget it.
It won't work on a Mac.
Kent
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From: carr@nls7.ppd.nrl.navy.mil (Thomas Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Using NeXT printer with Mac or PC
Date: 16 Nov 1994 19:25:10 GMT
Organization: Plasma Physics Division, Naval Research Lab
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <CARR.94Nov16142511@nls7.ppd.nrl.navy.mil>
I am considering getting a Pentium 90 PC or a PowerPC Mac. I would
like to use my NeXT laser printer with the new machine. I'd
appreciate any comments or advice on the ease of doing this with
either the PC or the Mac.
Additionally, I need some help with actually getting it to work. I read
my NeXT manuals but am a bit overwelmed with the NFS network stuff ( a
sysadmin I am not). Any tips to make this easy would be great.
Thanks alot,
Tom
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From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Wide-Fast SCSI-III
Date: 16 Nov 1994 19:08:13 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3adlat$1bv@rosie.next.com>
References: <3aai5h$14m@anshar.shadow.net>
In article <3aai5h$14m@anshar.shadow.net> jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
writes:
:JacquesGarbi wrote:
:: Does anyone know of a driver for the AHA 2940W PCI SCSI-III controller ?
:: I know there is one for the AHA 2940 Fast-SCSI-II (from Talus if I recall
:: right) but I never heard of any drivers for the Fast-Wide SCSI-III
:: controller that allows 15 SCSI devices and a maximum throughput of 20MB/s
:: instead of the usual 10MB/s.
:
:There is no Talus 2940 driver. There will be a 2940 driver in 3.3,
:although it does not appear to support the 2940W.
Actually, the 2940 family driver in 3.3 will support the 2940W with
Fast/16-bit Wide SCSI.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Scan-X Professional scanner problem
Date: 16 Nov 1994 19:47:16 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3adnk4$6l4@nntp1.u.washington.edu>
I recently purchased a used Scan-X Professional scanner and used it 2 or 3
times. Unfortunately, a friend was using the computer and turned the scanner
off and then back on (while the system was still running). Now, when I try
to turn the scanner on, it apparently finds an error during the self test
and the "Ready" light never comes on.
Does anyone have a suggestion for a "quick fix"?
Any help would be appreciated.
-MC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nash@nomos.com (Richard V. Nash)
Subject: Mapping physical memory
Message-ID: <CzDqHI.69D@nomos.com>
Sender: usenet@nomos.com (Usenet news)
Organization: NOMOS Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 21:32:06 GMT
Back in the good ole days, when writing a kernel driver, one could easily map
physical memory with the "map_addr" call. Of course, since we were only on
black hardware, that wasn't of much use.
Well now that I'm on white hardware, my driver really does needs to map
physical memory, and the "map_addr" call has gone away. Yes, I know, I can sort
of get the equivalent of this by using Next's whole object oriented device
driver system, but I'd really rather not do that for many reasons.
Here is my quesion: How can I get a virtual pointer to some physical address
in the kernel?
Seems like a simple question, what is the answer.
Any pointers, even "You can do that you idiot!", would be appreciated.
Rich
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From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardware supported by 3.3
Date: 17 Nov 1994 04:55:20 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <3aenno$h1a@news.onramp.net>
References: <3a6rn2$eje@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <3a6rn2$eje@network.ucsd.edu> ridgway@rutherford.tmc.edu (Doug
Ridgway) writes:
> In article <3a26su$c99@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> cft@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher
Flash Tarnas) writes:
> >
> >Also, earlier in the news group someone posted that NS only supported
> >two scsi cd-rom drives, a NEC one and a Sony one, is that true? I was
> >under impression that any scsi cdrom drive was supported as long as the
> >scsi adapter was supported, am I mistaken?
> >
>
> This is my impression too, but you must be careful out there in the
> cheapo PC world.
<snip>
>I got it traded in for a
> Teac. It worked perfectly the first time.
>
> doug.
I believe that NS will work with any real live SCSI CD-ROM. I've used
four different flavors of NEC, several of Toshiba, and I've heard good
things about Plextor, too. I'd also like to emphasize the above point.
It _has_ to be real 50-pin SCSI (and may still require a couple jumper
switches). Drop me a line if you have any trouble.
Computer salespeople are amazing. A local store here has NEC
4xi's cheaper than 3xi's, and the salesbozo explained that the 4xi wasn't
SCSI. I briefly tried to argue, then just bought a couple :-). I can do
the 'knows correct answer when told' thing as well as the next guy.
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer dkramer@onramp.net
Bifrost Systems Inc.
voice: (713) 531-7959
fax: (713) 531-5949
From: bennett@cs.niu.edu (Scott Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Damaged ODs
Date: 16 Nov 1994 23:58:48 -0600
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <3aereo$i5o@mp.cs.niu.edu>
References: <pburka.296.784926514@UPEI.CA> <1994Nov16.021246.8890@atd.rochester.ny.us>
In article <1994Nov16.021246.8890@atd.rochester.ny.us>,
Al Davis <al@atd.rochester.ny.us> wrote:
>PETER WIEBE BURKA (pburka@UPEI.CA) wrote:
>: Two of the disks, when inserted, bring up the fix optical disk dialog. I
>: click on "ok" to fix the disk, the drive grinds for a while, and a message
>: comes up in the console telling me that the disk can't be fixed, and I've
>: got to run fsck manually. How can I do this? I've tried everything
>: obvious, but I can't manually mount the disk, or fsck it. (I'm still using
Why can't you run fsck(8) against it? You didn't post a reason.
>: NS 3.0 on this machine.)
>
>Why can't you manually mount it? You need to do it the old unix way...
>Login as root. Use the "mount" command. (mount -r -n /dev/od0a /foo) It
>will prompt you to insert the disk.
He may not be able to do that, depending upon the problem. For
example, the mount will probably fail if the first superblock is messed
up. However, in that situation he could try running fsck using -b to
specify one of the backup superblocks.
But first he should try running fsck to see whether it can fix the
problem. To do that, either log in as root or su root. From a terminal
window, type "fsck /dev/rod0a" and insert the OD when the kernel pops a
panel up telling you to insert the OD.
Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
Systems Programming
Computer Center
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, Illinois 60115
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Using NeXT printer with Mac or PC
Date: 17 Nov 1994 05:24:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3aepec$h5v@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CARR.94Nov16142511@nls7.ppd.nrl.navy.mil>
In article <CARR.94Nov16142511@nls7.ppd.nrl.navy.mil>
carr@nls7.ppd.nrl.navy.mil (Thomas Carr) writes:
> I am considering getting a Pentium 90 PC or a PowerPC Mac. I would
> like to use my NeXT laser printer with the new machine. I'd
> appreciate any comments or advice on the ease of doing this with
> either the PC or the Mac.
Forget it. You can't use a NeXT 400 dpi black and white laser printer
with ANY computer other than a NeXT. Unlike all other postscript laser
printers, the NeXT printer has no brains in it. All the postscript
rendering is done on the NeXT and then blasted over to the printer.
Buy a new laser printer with your pentium.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: fdisk is is putting a cramp in my a**
Message-ID: <1994Nov17.044609.18810@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 04:46:09 GMT
I keep getting a bogus entry error form fdisk when trying to install NS on
my pentium. I have tried several supported SCSI controllers, CD-ROMS, and
different HDs. All give the same error. i have disabled the on-board IDE
stuff and have tried many permutations of setting on the SCSI cards.
What gives????
---
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: SCSI on DOS (was Re: More SyQuest infos)
Message-ID: <1994Nov16.113401.502@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <CzAFDt.48r@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:34:01 GMT
In article <CzAFDt.48r@prz.tu-berlin.de> wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas
Wolfram) writes:
...munch...
> BTW, creating a partition table on the SyQuest media with NeXTSTEP's
> fdisk gives another result then doing it under DOS because NeXTSTEP
> detects 4 heads/17 sectors from the SyQuest drive instead of 64
> heads/32 sectors (with a Adaptec). It might be that this (4/17
> under NEXTSTEP) could be overridden by making an entry in /etc/disktab.
>
> Also you should use 'fdisk -useAllSectors /dev/rsd?h' because
> otherwise fdisk limits the access to those sectors "which are
> bios-accessible". To my knowledge these BIOS limits are 1024
> cylinders, 256 heads and 64 sectors, but NEXTSTEP's fdisk limits
> then partitions to a size of ~20MB - very strange.
>
> As for DOS: I was told by a SyQuest person that as long as you use
> the SQDRIVER.SYS the translation scheme doesn't matter because the
> driver handles it (there is a additional translation done by it).
Just to give more background info (and not letting pass a chance to rant
on braindead DOS ;-)
SCSI disks use a linear address scheme that masks the disk geometry.
Therefore, you never get any problems with exchanging SCSI disks between
different machines and controllers. Linear addresses are linear under all
circumstance.
Domestos (aka MessyDOS) fdisk is supposing to work on geometry aware
disks. It addresses cylinders, heads, and sectors like in the old days of
ST506 and ESDI (and IDE, of course). SCSI controllers have to destroy the
linear addressing feature of SCSI in order to support DOS (fdisk)
partitioning, thus the need for address translation, and/or need a special
fdisk program. Therefore, any SCSI disk that got fdisk partitioned lost
its universal exchangability in the process (By the way, since the address
translation makes arbitrary choices the optimization features of fdisk and
format are very likely to turn out as a shot in your foot). Since NS/FIP
knows how to work on fdisk partitioned disks (sigh!) there is a danger to
have unexchangable NS disks, a heavy liability in case of Syquest or any
similar drives.
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: abc@bwit248.morgan.com (Alexander Cone)
Subject: EtherExpress: Adaptor not found at address 0x300
Message-ID: <ABC.94Nov16174650@bwit248.morgan.com>
Sender: news@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 22:46:50 GMT
I have a Compaq 560 XE P60 running 3.3 PR2. There is, indeed an ethernet
card in the machine and the two jumpers are set to soft irq and soft port
address configuration. It is supposed to be an Intel EtherExpress, but a
physical examination of the card reveals no manufacturer names. It has all
three types of connectors on the back.
When I boot, I get the "Adaptor not found at address 0x300" message and, not
suprisingly, the ethernet interface is not working.
Interestingly, when I boot in DOS and run Compaq's nifty setup utility, it
also fails to mention any network cards, even though the communucations
section is supposed to deal with nework cards. Hmmmmm.
Any clues? I read all of the documentation on the Compaq and NS/FIP, as well
as the documents on the Intel EtherExpress. *^&%$$%^ PCs!
Alex Cone
abc@morgan.com
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: Alex B. Cone "Speed Before Direction!" Morgan Stanley & Co :
: abc@morgan.com (mime mail OK) abc@object.com (NeXTMail OK) :
..............................................................................
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [SUBMISSION] HP JetDirect/Network printer driver (source code) to archives.
Date: 17 Nov 1994 00:37:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ae8l3$et3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Keywords: HP LaserJet JetDirect Network Printer Ethernet AppSocket PostScript Printer
If anyone wants to have a driver ('if' printcap filter) for NS3.2
or earlier to drive HP printers with JetDirect Ethernet card, the
source code is on the archives (see below). You need a Developer
environment to install it.
I had problems getting PostScript error alert back from the
network printer with other solutions I tried, hence this code.
LPD interface worked but I couldn't turn off "burst page" with that.
PS error messages are sent back via e-mail.
This replaces NeXT's 'prserver' and you will lose some features
like accounting which are not important for me.
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/printer/JetDirectDriver.0.9.NI.s.tar.gz
ftp.cs.orst.edu
(somewhere)/JetDirectDriver.compressed
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple LaserWriter Select360
Date: 17 Nov 1994 12:12:49 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3afhc1$343@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
dear readers of comp.sys.next.hardware,
I would like to print from a NeXTstation(black) through the serial port to
an Apple Laserwriter Select 360 , Unfortunately this nice and fast printer
has only an AppleTalk port( already used by Macintoshes) and a parallel
port but no serial port.(targeted for an environment with Macs and
MS-Windows PC's) So my question is:
Has anybody such a configuration in use ? Is a serial to parallel
converter doing the job ? Will the printer be able to serve both ports
simultaneously when connected in this way?
Thanks in advance
W. Wetzel
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Werner Wetzel Fax: +49 6221 569 329
Theoretische Physik Tel: +49 6221 569 419
Universitaet Heidelberg email: me@nextww.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
Philosophenweg 16
D-69120 HEIDELBERG
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hard disk for NS: VLB IDE or SCSI??
Date: 17 Nov 1994 12:33:45 -0000
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3afij9$7qr@titian.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Hi everyone,
I am looking for a new hard drive for my NSFIP PC. Currently I have an IDE
drive and a VL BUS controller(no cache). I am happy with the performance,
but would like to know if getting a VL BUS controller with cache would make
any significant difference. I also have an Adaptec 1542C controller, so I
wonder if going for a SCSI drive would be a faster choice.
Any advice is welcome.
Eren Kotan, eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk
From: honor@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Honor -- ACF)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/Thinkpads compatible?
Date: 17 Nov 1994 12:57:28 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Message-ID: <3afjvo$4o0@news.arc.nasa.gov>
Hello all,
I am curious if NS is compatible with the IBM Thinkpad 700C.
I believe I have seen similar question before but don't recall
any confirming reply postings.
Anyone out there tried installing? It, if so, were there
problems?
thanks
---------------------------------------------------------------
Alex Honor 415-344-1209
NAS NASA Ames Research Ctr. honor@nas.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mho@kepler.fokus.gmd.de (Michael Hopp)
Subject: Black mouse replacement ?
Message-ID: <1994Nov17.134717.26936@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:47:17 GMT
Is the NeXTstation's mouse electrically compatible to any other
standard (PC, MAC, Atari, whatever), so that by using the NeXT-style
connector with the correct pinouts, I could replace my faulty mouse
with a trackball?
Michael
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Using NeXT printer with Mac or PC
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 11:31:09 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <8imsJBG00iV902yu1G@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3aepec$h5v@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 17-Nov-94 Re: Using NeXT
printer with.. by Todd Takken@leland.stanf
> Forget it. You can't use a NeXT 400 dpi black and white laser printer
> with ANY computer other than a NeXT.
True, at least at the moment. However, the is no technical reason why a
card for the Intel architecture couldn't be built to support the
printer-- it's simply not economically feasible.
> Unlike all other postscript laser printers, the NeXT printer has no brains in
> it.
Not so. I know that the Sun SPARCprinter also is a pure print engine
with no brains, either.
> All the postscript rendering is done on the NeXT and then blasted over to the
> printer.
That's exactly what happens when one prints on a Sun, as well....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: nunez@Quaestor.inference.com (Steve Nunez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Motherboards?
Date: 17 Nov 94 05:08:23
Organization: /usr1/nunez/.organization
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <NUNEZ.94Nov17050823@Quaestor.inference.com>
I (as well as a few others I've seen here) are looking for Pentium
motherboards with which to set up a NS system. I've not seen any
replys as to which ones are compataible. Hasn't ANYONE, EVER had
a motherboard related problem when installing NS? Or can you just
choose the best deal and be confident that it will work?
- Steve Nunez
nunez@inference.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dfile@NexusAdmin.COM (David File)
Subject: Anyone using the duplex option on HP 4Si LaserJet?
Message-ID: <CzEJE1.54D@nexusadmin.com>
Keywords: HP LaserJet
Sender: dfile@nexusadmin.com (David File)
Organization: Nexus Administration
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 07:56:25 GMT
Greetings!
Is anyone using a HP 4Si MX with the duplex option successfully? In
our environment, Mac's can print and use the duplex option fine - the
NS for Intel 3.2 box can not. Hardware: HP 4Si MX connected via
parallel to a Canon Object.Station. I have tried the HP 3Si ppd that
comes with NS AND the HP 4Si ppd from the ftp.adobe.com site - no
difference.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Regards
--
David
From: Joerg Passenberg <iss004@cips2.gm.fh-koeln.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: INFO needed on boot PROM upgrade && SIMM banks
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 23:56:18 +0100
Organization: Fachhochschule Koeln FB-Informatik (Germany).
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.941117235207.18489B-100000@cips2.gm.fh-koeln.de>
References: <3aapru$pab@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <3aapru$pab@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
On 15 Nov 1994, David A. Sinclair wrote:
> On Thursday, I'll be upgrading the boot PROM in my mono slab to
> 2.2v66, so that I'll be able to mix parity- with non-parity SIMMs in
> my machine. Has anyone else done this, and does it really work?
Yes, i have 4x4 MB parity and 4x1 MB, no parity. It works fine
(with parity disabled in boot PROM).
> Also, can someone tell me which SIMM bank is 0? Is it the one closer
> to the fan/disk, or the other? Couldn't find the information in the
> FAQ.
SIMM bank 0 is closer to the fan/disk, but if you want to replace only
4 SIMM's, it work's for me with bank 5-8, which has now 4 MB-parity SIMMS.
By, Joerg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Rashpal Singh)
Subject: Re: Motherboards?
Message-ID: <CzFx04.3Kz@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: ax759@freenet.carleton.ca (Rashpal Singh)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
References: <NUNEZ.94Nov17050823@Quaestor.inference.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 01:48:04 GMT
In a previous article, nunez@Quaestor.inference.com (Steve Nunez) says:
>
>I (as well as a few others I've seen here) are looking for Pentium
>motherboards with which to set up a NS system. I've not seen any
>replys as to which ones are compataible. Hasn't ANYONE, EVER had
>a motherboard related problem when installing NS? Or can you just
>choose the best deal and be confident that it will work?
>
> - Steve Nunez
> nunez@inference.com
>
Intel Premeire PCI/II with Neptune chipset is compatible with NS.
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,computer.sys.next.software,computer.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Mono Non-Turbo Slab RAM Question & Offer
Date: 18 Nov 1994 07:20:22 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <3ahkjn$pk4@news.worldlink.com>
Greetings,
Please excuse my ignorance. Forgive me in advance if this is an FAQ question.
When looking at the motherboard of a mono non-turbo slab, exactly what is the single 72pin SIMM
socket used for? What will I effect if I add a 2MB SIMM to this socket? Will the effect be
noticable at 2MB?
Is it disk cache? Is there a minimum or maximum amount of SIMM RAM which will work in this
slot (2MB, 4MB, 8MB, 16MB, etc.)?
I currently have eight (8) 1MB 30pin SIMMs loaded in the slab. I know that these represent the
RAM. I simply do not know to what the 72pin SIMM slot corresponds.
Please advise. I thank you in advance.
Peace,
James
p00378@psilink.com
P.S. - I am interested in trading 8MB (four 2MB SIMMs) of my 80ns 72pin SIMMs for 8MB (two 4MB
SIMMs or one 8MB SIMM) of your 70-100ns 30pin SIMMs.
From: jetzer@litsun15.epfl.ch (Laurent Jetzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bad sound playback with SoundBlaster 16
Date: 18 Nov 1994 08:57:03 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JETZER.94Nov18095703@litsun15.epfl.ch>
Hi,
I have a Soundblaster 16 Value Edition and I use the beta driver from
Next. I had no problem to install the card and the driver
(I don't have a network card).
Now, I can play sound but it seems that there is a little problem.
When I play a sound, the volume is really low and the sound is not good,
there is a noise that plays with the sound.
I use SoundCheck to choose the level of the volume. But, even with the
loudest volume, the sound is not as loud as it is with windows.
I have tried a lot of sounds at different rates (8 bit and 16 bit)
in windows and I didn't notice the same noisy sound as in NEXTSTEP.
In 8 bit, the sound is not as good as it is in 16 bit, but that's seems
normal.
Has anybody noticed the same problem ?
Do you think the Soundblaster board could be defective ?
Laurent Jetzer
jetzer@di.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: abc@bwit248.morgan.com (Alexander Cone)
Subject: Re: EtherExpress: Adaptor not found at address 0x300
In-Reply-To: abc@bwit248.morgan.com's message of Wed, 16 Nov 1994 22:46:50 GMT
Message-ID: <ABC.94Nov17173814@bwit248.morgan.com>
Sender: news@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley
References: <ABC.94Nov16174650@bwit248.morgan.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 22:38:14 GMT
Solved my own problem! Answer: Don't believe everything they tell you.
Turns out the eternet card was an SMC Elite 16. All configured now.
Thanks all!
abc
In article <ABC.94Nov16174650@bwit248.morgan.com> abc@bwit248.morgan.com (Alexander Cone) writes:
I have a Compaq 560 XE P60 running 3.3 PR2. There is, indeed an ethernet
card in the machine and the two jumpers are set to soft irq and soft port
address configuration. It is supposed to be an Intel EtherExpress, but a
physical examination of the card reveals no manufacturer names. It has all
three types of connectors on the back.
When I boot, I get the "Adaptor not found at address 0x300" message and, not
suprisingly, the ethernet interface is not working.
Interestingly, when I boot in DOS and run Compaq's nifty setup utility, it
also fails to mention any network cards, even though the communucations
section is supposed to deal with nework cards. Hmmmmm.
Any clues? I read all of the documentation on the Compaq and NS/FIP, as well
as the documents on the Intel EtherExpress. *^&%$$%^ PCs!
--
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: Alex B. Cone "Speed Before Direction!" Morgan Stanley & Co :
: abc@morgan.com (mime mail OK) abc@object.com (NeXTMail OK) :
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From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mounting a CD with multiple filesystems on it (Mac and DOS), on black
Date: 18 Nov 1994 00:05:36 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <3agr4g$q44@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Hello,
I recently got a CD-ROM that has fonts on it in DOS and MAC format.
When the Cd is inserted in either machine they flawlessly come up on
the machine. On my Black cube with origional NeXT CD-ROM it always
mounts as cfs (CD-ROM).
I tried various mount -t macintosh /dev/?? /mountpoint commands
to no avail. First anyone have any clue as to how to find out what
partition things are at on disks? When mounted by automounter it gives
the device as rsd3h ("h"!). The 'disk' utility can't find a label.
If anyone has any clues I'd greatly appreciate a response.
Sincerely,
Randy Rencsok
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer)
Subject: Re: Sam Goldberger's email (Spherical Solutions) is needed...
Message-ID: <1994Nov18.094620.940@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de
Organization: NeXT EnTHUSIAST
References: <3a9l6h$rqe@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 09:46:20 GMT
In article <3a9l6h$rqe@nntp.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd
Takken) writes:
#In article <3a91e3$1ku@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
#(Paul Nevai) writes:
#
#> What is Sam Goldberger's (Spherical Solutions) email? Is this still
#> good: sphere@netcom.com?
#
#Try this:
#
# Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com
# Spherical Solutions
# 47 Myrtle Avenue
# Mill Valley,
# CA 94941
# 415-383-2919--voice
# 415-381-9556--fax
#
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Building a NeXTbox - please review
Date: 17 Nov 1994 22:21:15 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3agl0r$d2l@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I'm going to build a NeXTStep compatible box. It is to be used with
a free 28.8k dedicated slip line (into work).
Please look this over, and lemme know if you can forsee any conflicts
with the hardware that I'm "about" to purchase.
After looking through all the NeXT documentation (thank
god for NeXTAnswers) here is what I've come to decide upon:
Motherboard: (baby size)... $115 delivered
Supported CPUs
Intel 486SX/SL/DX/DX/DX2, 486DX4 (P24C), P24T, P24D
Cyrix CX486DX2/DX/S
AMD AM486DXLT/DX2/DX
UMC U5
supports 3.3v CPUs
237 pin ZIF socket
256K SRAM cache, expandable to 1MB
Main memory
up to 64Mb on board
4-30 pin and 2-72 pin SIMM sockets
uses 256K, 1/2/4/8/16/32/64MB SIMM modules
Expansion slots
7 16-bit ISA slots
3 32-bit VL-Bus master slots
"Green" power management
Supports Microsoft APM (advanced power management)
Award BIOS - system speed set by BIOS, not jumper
Case: Mid-tower 230w ($free from a friend)
CPU: 486dx33 ($120 delivered) or 486dx2/66 (any good deals anywhere?)
Disk Interface: (2 to choose from)
Adaptec 1542CF 5.7ms/scsi-2 (approx $250)
Adaptec 2940W Wide Fast scsi-2 (price ???)
Ram: (total 20 megs)
2 2 meg 70n 72 pins (in the 2 sockets... received free)
4 4 meg 70n 30 pins (in the 4 sockets)... approx $400
Video:
Cirrus Logic 1mb VLbus ($free from a friend)
Hardrives:
1 320 meg
1 105 meg
1 40 meg
1 425 meg (currently not working)
CD-rom:
pickup a used el-cheapo 2x speed scsi.. $50-$100 I'd presume
Modem: USR v.all Dual Standard (already have it)
Cost total:
mboard........................ $115
Case & ps..................... $0
cpu (dx33 for now)............ $120
SCSI Interface (1542CF)....... $250
NeXTStep 3.3.................. $199
CDRom......................... $100
Modem......................... $0
Video Card.................... $0
Ram........................... $400
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$1184
What do you think?
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From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone got a NeXT Printer cable ??
Date: 18 Nov 1994 11:13:57 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3ai29l$44v@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I have got sitting in front of me a rather smart NeXT cube and a
400DPI NeXT printer sitting on the floor. The problem is I haven't
got the crucial cable to connect them together - I have had a cable
made up with the pin connections indicated in the manual but to no
avail.
So has anyone got a printer cable that they can let me have for not
very much money. I am not really sure that the printer works so I
don't want to spend a lot of money on a cable and then find that the
printer is knackered.
Cheers Rupert
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with ProAudioSpectrum and music CD-ROM hookup
Date: 18 Nov 1994 04:45:15 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ahbgr$199@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3ac04a$5mu@cobber.cord.edu>
doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) writes:
> Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
> [...]
> > in my DECpc XL560. Music CD's play fine thru the headphone jack,
> > but the hookup between the CD-ROM player and the PAS card didn't
> > seem to be working. I eventually realized that it was working,
> > it's just that it was very quiet and there didn't seem to be any
> > way to turn up the volume.
>
> I really like the ProAudioSpectrumPlus16 Driver because it provides
> a Mixer that you can access in Preferences. The mixer allows you
> control mic in, external input, master input, mixer out, master
> out, and bass & treble levels. It is really very nice. Anyway,
> it fixes the problems that you are experiencing.
>
> I found the driver at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de but I didn't
> check its path since they seem to be down right now.
I went down into directory pub/comp/platforms/next/i486/audio
at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de and found several PAS-related
files.
The one Jon seems to have been talking about is in files
PASPlus.0.99.I.b.tar.gz
PASPlus.0.99.README
I've picked it up, and indeed I like it a lot. This is great,
thanks for pointing it out! It is very nice.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Followup to: SIMM extraction and boot EPROM upgrade
Date: 18 Nov 1994 12:44:30 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ai7je$inh@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Enough people asked me (12) by private email for my experiences this
week with upgrading my boot EPROM that I thought I would post rather
than reply individually, in case anyone else is interested too.
*1 SIMM extraction without NeXT SIMM tool
I got a few helpful replies here; sorry no individual credit, but I
lost track of who suggested what. Different methods for removing
SIMMs from NeXT mb:
a. One person said s/he uses a fork, with N-1 of the
teeth bent backward; this seemed a little risky to
me (plus, I don't have many spare forks :).
b. Another person (Denise?) said s/he uses a large
paperclip, with one end bent out to hook the
hole of the SIMM after the clip was depressed. Seems
reasonable.
c. (My choice from this set) The final respondent
said s/he uses a piece of dental floss and a flat,
small screwdriver. Thread floss through SIMM hole,
pry retainer clip back with screwdriver, use floss
(floss|string|fishing line) to pull out SIMM. Cool.
*2 boot PROM upgrade
So I popped out the old 4 1meg SIMMs, put in 4 4meg SIMMs, bringing my
system to 32meg (there were already 4 4meg SIMMs in there before
this.) To enable my system to boot with a mix of parity- and
non-parity SIMMs, I needed to upgrade my boot PROM from 2.2v63 to the
latest revision.
The part is available as: S1011 from Bell Atlantic
(800) 499-next (not an endorsement)
for $30, including FedEx.
Simply pop out the old PROM, pop in the new, and away you go.
That's it! :-)
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From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Nextstation anti-theft devices?
Date: 18 Nov 1994 14:58:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <3aifel$i4b@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Does anyone know how to secure a Nextstation to a desk
to prevent theft? Macs have hooks built into them that
allow cables to be used with a desk. Any hints or
suggestions for minimizing the possibility of theft
would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Bruce
(bwp@engin.umich.edu)
From: hermann@GLOIN.genias.de ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: test
Date: 18 Nov 1994 16:10:56 GMT
Organization: GENIAS Software GmbH
Message-ID: <3aijmg$2tl@GIMLI.genias.de>
test
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 18 Nov 1994 02:57:43 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ah577$i8a@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <schulz.94Nov1482514@gecko03>
In article <schulz.94Nov1482514@gecko03> schulz@biw.cube.de writes:
> Sorry, but there is no 3.3 for Gecko!
Why should we believe you when people from NeXT
state otherwise? Not marketing people, either.
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Bad sound playback with SoundBlaster 16
Date: 18 Nov 1994 11:46:43 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ailpj$f5p@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <JETZER.94Nov18095703@litsun15.epfl.ch>
Laurent Jetzer (jetzer@litsun15.epfl.ch) wrote:
: Do you think the Soundblaster board could be defective ?
It's not your Soundblaster that's defective, it's the NeXT driver.
Contact Talus (info@talus.com) about their SB16 driver (that works).
- Jay
NeXTmail...Yes!
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PROM monitor password
Date: 18 Nov 1994 17:12:16 GMT
Organization: Mount Holyoke College, South Hadley, MA, USA
Message-ID: <3ain9g$7pa@mudraker.mtholyoke.edu>
We have a NeXT (pizza box) with a forgotten hardware password... how do
we reset the password? Will pulling out the battery work?
From: osg@onramp.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Developers
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 12:28:46 PDT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <3aio2n$dtc@news.onramp.net>
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NeXT DEVELOPER
OSG (Object Systems Group) is a technology-based consultancy that provides
assistance to Global 1000 corporations in new and emerging technologies. We
currently have an opening in the N.E. for someone with the following
experience:
NeXT Developer
Minimum 3+ years total experience with extensive NeXTStep, AppKit, DBKit and
Objective C.
Send resume to osg@onramp.net , US mail your resume to Object Systems Group,
Inc., Attn: Glenda Maddox, 5001 Infomart, 1950 Stemmons Freeway, Dallas, Tx.
75207, or fax to 214 746-5974.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: exchange Sun <---> NeXT using MO-drive
Message-ID: <1994Nov18.132517.15052@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:25:17 GMT
Hi NeXT land,
I have a Fujitsu MO drive with my NeXTstation. Should it be possible
to connect that drive to a Sun IPX to exchange data? Or is there
a way buy using tar and writing to the raw device. The same trick that
works with floppies.
Anyone has any experiences so far?
Bye, Willem
PS I'll summarize.
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From: jim@ws8.sri.com (Jim Carpenter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Test
Date: 18 Nov 1994 19:44:37 GMT
Organization: SRI International
Sender: jim@std.sri.com
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3aj075$9d0@unix.sri.com>
References: <1994Nov18.172839.4432@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: test
This is a test
I am having problems with my news-server
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From: horst@il.us.swissbank.com (Ted Horst)
Subject: Drive performance on black hardware
Message-ID: <1994Nov18.172839.4432@il.us.swissbank.com>
Keywords: disk drive performance next
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 17:28:39 GMT
Does anybody know how to properly tune a drive for best performance on
black hardware ?
I just got a new Micropolis 2217, which is supposed to be a fast disk, but
iozone reports that it is only about half the speed of the Seagate ST1480
that came with the machine. A newer Seagate ST11200N rated a little
faster than my Micropolis, but still slower than the original 1480.
Could this have anything to do with the fact that the NeXT uses a SCSI-I
driver and these are SCSI-II drives ?
Also, the 1480 was internal, and the others were external. Does that make
any difference ?
Any insight or clues would be very much appreciated.
Here are the numbers:
Micropolis 2217D
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...78.772124 seconds
Reading the file...76.231548 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
532460 bytes/second for writing the file
550205 bytes/second for reading the file
Seagate ST1480
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...41.928648 seconds
Reading the file...39.818260 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
1000343 bytes/second for writing the file
1053361 bytes/second for reading the file
Seagate ST11200N
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'test'...59.962139 seconds
Reading the file...57.071763 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
699492 bytes/second for writing the file
734917 bytes/second for reading the file
Thanks,
Ted Horst
(speaking only for myself)
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Reinstalling NeXT Boot Program
Date: 18 Nov 1994 19:31:15 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <3aive3$sm3@godot.cc.duq.edu>
References: <3a0bdv$d0s@godot.cc.duq.edu> <1994Nov15.235302.6922@pcp.ca>
Thanks to the folks who responed about my question regarding
re-installing the NeXT boot program. Everything's fine again.
BTW, I didn't bother to make the NeXT parition active to get it to boot
NeXTstep. What I did was use the NeXT 3.2 install floppy, boot from that
and then enter the boot command sd()mach_kernel.
This left the DOS partition active and then under NeXTstep I did
the 'disk -d /dev/rsd0a' and everything was fine.
This cut out the steps of changing the active partition back and forth
from DOS->NeXT->DOS.
Thanks again.
--Jason Brown
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
Rory Gibson (Gibson_Rory@pcp.ca) wrote:
: In article <3a0bdv$d0s@godot.cc.duq.edu> brown@next.duq.edu (Jason
: Brown) writes:
: > I know I've read this topic on this group before but I don't have any
: of
: > the associated messages so I'm hoping the involved parties can easily
: remember
: > their answers.
: >
: > I had installed NeXTstep 3.2 on a series of Dell computers along with
: DOS
: > partitions and all of the associated messy-dos software.
: >
: > Everything was fine until some kind person upgraded a few of the
: machines to
: > DOS 6.2 and now, you guessed it, they don't offer the option of
: booting
: > NeXTstep anymore. I'm pretty sure the drives weren't repartitioned so
: > if I can somehow re-install the NeXT boot program I think I'll be
: fine.
: >
: > Does anyone have the solution?
: >
: > Thanks.
: >
: > --Jason Brown
: > Senior Software Engineer
: > (NeXT Mail Welcome)
: > brown@next.duq.edu
: >
: Using "fdisk" under DOS make the NEXTSTEP partition the active
: partition. Reboot the machine to bring it up in NEXTSTEP and type:
: "disk -b /dev/rsd0a" for a SCSI disk
: or "disk -b /dev/rhd0a" for an IDE disk
: You must be logged in as root to do this.
: Rory.
From: rgeorge@figaro.hsv.tybrin.com (Russell George)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need a 68040 (33 MHz) CPU chip
Date: 18 Nov 1994 15:41:23 -0600
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation
Message-ID: <3aj723$384@figaro.hsv.tybrin.com>
My mono turbo slab is doing some strange things--locking up while doing
simple compiles. After extensive consultation with both NeXT and Bell
Atlantic, the solution appears to be a new motherboard. Given the $539
trade-in price for the motherboard, I would prefer to explore an alternative.
I believe the problem to be a bad CPU. Where can I get a 33 MHz 68040
CPU chip and the tool needed to extract the chip safely? We've had to do this
once before at my office with an early mono slab, so I am familiar with
the procedure. I just need a source for the chip and an extraction tool.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: NeXT or Sun Monitors w/white hardware?
Message-ID: <1994Nov18.200959.3123@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 20:09:59 GMT
I'm not familiar with the many display cards available for white hardware,
so sorry if this is a silly question...
I own a 21" NeXT (Hitachi) color monitor that cost me a lot of $$$. I was
wondering if/when I switch to a Pentium, will I have to buy another
monitor, or are there display cards for white hardware that support the
13W3 RGB composite / sync-on-green standard (a la Sun)?
Thanks for your help!
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator)
Subject: Re: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1994Nov18.204718.21512@scott.skidmore.edu>
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
References: <39sovp$8kr@lorne.stir.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 20:47:18 GMT
> BTW I replaced it with a Quantum 1Gb which is fast, quiet and last but
not
> least to a Scotsman, cheap!
>
> --
> Donald Baird Voice: +786 467926
> Environment/Systems Group Fax : +786 472133
> Institute of Aquaculture Email: djb1@stirling.ac.uk
> Stirling University
> Scotland FK9 4LA
>
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This is interesting to me. Did you place the quantam inside an old NeXT
cube ? What was your source/cost for the quantam ? My drive's been
whining for a long time and I'd LOVE to replace it, but I've read threads
on the net that HEAT could be a serious problem if you put the wrong drive
in there.
thanks for any info. Please reply to:
tholland@scott.skidmore.edu
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (NeXT mail ok here)
thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator)
Subject: Cannon Object.station -- VS -- Gecko ?
Message-ID: <1994Nov18.205136.21872@scott.skidmore.edu>
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 20:51:36 GMT
Anybody got hold of the cannon object.station ? Care to make any
comparisons with the folks posting reflections on Gecko ?
A. Holland
Skidmore College
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
From: dkramer@onramp.net (Daniel L. Kramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Motherboards?
Date: 19 Nov 1994 03:13:03 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <3ajqfv$eba@news.onramp.net>
References: <CzFx04.3Kz@freenet.carleton.ca>
In article <CzFx04.3Kz@freenet.carleton.ca> ax759@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Rashpal Singh) writes:
>
> In a previous article, nunez@Quaestor.inference.com (Steve Nunez) says:
>
> >
> >I (as well as a few others I've seen here) are looking for Pentium
> >motherboards with which to set up a NS system. I've not seen any
> >replys as to which ones are compataible. Hasn't ANYONE, EVER had
> >a motherboard related problem when installing NS? Or can you just
> >choose the best deal and be confident that it will work?
> >
> > - Steve Nunez
> > nunez@inference.com
> >
>
> Intel Premeire PCI/II with Neptune chipset is compatible with NS.
>
Motherboard compatibility issues are usually more of a matter of
performance than simply work/not work. Most of the VL/PCI/ISA boards I've
played with have dead slow video under NS (Opti chipset, and another whose
name escapes me..). The Premiere II board works fine, as well as you have
v10 of the associated AMI BIOS. Version 6 clunks along, crashing
occasionally, v8 is better, but the sound sucks (even under DOS), and v10
works great. If you have any other config issues, particularly
P90-specific, drop me a line!
Hope this helps!
Dan
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Systems
(713) 531-7959
From: furuike!hugh%furuike@tanuki.twics.com (Hugh Ashton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help again with ADB monitor
Date: 18 Nov 1994 23:34:22 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <941119142857.217AAC4F.hugh@furuike>
Sorry to take up bandwidth again, but something is playing up on my Turbo
ADB monochrome station. Symptoms are a flicker on the screen, which is
especially noticable on the screen saver, and on the dark unscanned area
aroung the Workspace). The diagonal (nearly horizonatal) scan lines are
sometimes visible. Occasionally, the
flicker is strong enough to make itself visible on the NX_LIGHTGRAY and
NX_DARKGRAY objects on the screen (as well as black ones). This comes and
goes (after my last posting, it went away for about 4 weeks, reappeared,
went way for a day, came back).
I've had the back off the monitor and adjusted various settings with a
ceramic screwdriver - the result is to make the display better (I hadn't
really appreciated how bad the geometry had been before), but the flicker
is stilll there.
I've also had an 8Mb SIMM go down (used to have 32Mb, now down to 16 (these
things work in pairs, right? so that if one of a pair goes down, the other
won't kick in?) - but taking out every SIMM and reseating it, which I did
to discover the baddie, hasn't cured the flicker. Has anyone else ever
seen anything like this? What did you do about it?
I have this horrible feeling that the motherboard video cicuitry is shot.
If this turns out to be the case:
i) Is it possible, if I can get hold of the motherboard, to replace it
myself with relatively few problems (anyone done this?)?
ii) I have some hostid keyed software (NXFax, etc.). Does the hostid
live on the ROM, and is it therefore possible to replace the ROM to keep my
hostid?
The news server I generally use is down, thanks to a failed hard disk (it's
a bad time of year for hardware in Japan!), and so I'm going through this
gateway. Please repply by e-mail to the address below.
Thanks in advance...
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: cmsg cancel <bchin.785223048@news.andi.org>
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Sender: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
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References: <1994Nov18.205136.21872@scott.skidmore.edu> <bchin.785223048@news.andi.org>
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 05:44:21 GMT
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From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: anyone using 2 miroCrystals for two-headed intel system?
Date: 18 Nov 1994 16:32:24 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3aja1o$1r3@cobber.cord.edu>
I would like to know if anyone has gotten two miroCrystal cards to work
in a two-headed configuration. Does the miro NEXTSTEP driver support this?
It works under windows. It would be nice to get a two headed nextstep
system.
Also, anyone know of plans for nextstep support for the miroCrystal 40PV?
It is a PCI based video card with MotionJpeg, MPEG, Indeo, Cinepak,
Video1, and Captain Crunch codecs.
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From: taroh@kohnolab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp (Taroh SASAKI / D graduate 93 / Kanagawa Univ. Assistant)
Subject: NEXTSTEP on T-4000?
Message-ID: <TAROH.94Nov19223152@yone.kohnolab.dnj.ynu.ac.jp>
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Organization: Division of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Yokohama
National University, Japan.
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 13:31:52 GMT
Hi,
Recently, Toshiba Japan released a machine called ``Dynabook SS,''
with 486-SX/33MHz (486-DX/50MHz available), 8M + 340MB, and
I hear that Toshiba had released the same machine as
``T-4000'' (?) in U. S.
My questions are:
1. Does T-4000 have the same spec of Dynabook SS's ?
2. Someone running NEXTSTEP on T-4000 out there?
3. If available, can we exchange its HDD to 540MB
(maybe 2.5'') IDE?
Thanks in advance,
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From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Help. Fujitsu M2624FA ext. drive not working: "Device not ready"
Message-ID: <CzIsu1.MM7@acsu.buffalo.edu>
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 15:10:49 GMT
Hi. During a big copying job my external (boot) drive just quit with all sorts
of scsi errors. When I now try to reboot the computer [a NeXTstation], using a
different boot drive, it tells me that the Fujitsu drive is not ready. It waits
for it to come ready but finally gives up and bypasses it.
The app BuildDisk can see the drive but it thinks the drive has 0Mb
capacity(??) and can't do anything about it.
I also tried to initialize the drive on a Mac but with no succes. Any attempt
at formatting fails.
Does someone know what is wrong with this (fairly) new drive?
Is it dead? Any suggestions will be very welcome.
By the way I was using the drive in synchronous mode when I should have been
using it in asynchronous mode instead, as I was told it is the proper way to
use it on a NeXT.
Bye,
Ze Tomas
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From: synchronicity!sjb (Stephen J. Bottas)
Subject: color printing
Message-ID: <1994Nov18.132915.3010@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: sjb@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:29:15 GMT
Does anyone know if NS supports color printing for my cube?
Which printers might I try?
Many thanks.
Steve
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Noisy Hard Drive in NeXTstation
Date: 19 Nov 1994 21:00:24 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
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References: <1994Nov18.204718.21512@scott.skidmore.edu>
In article <1994Nov18.204718.21512@scott.skidmore.edu>
root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator) writes:
> but I've read threads
> on the net that HEAT could be a serious problem if you put the wrong
> drive in there.
I have a 1.3GB Conner in one of my slabs and a 1.7 GB Micropolis in the
other. I have never had any heating problems. In fact, for a while I had
both the 1.3GB Conner and a 200MB Maxtor (third height, mounted to the
underside of the lid) both as internal drives in my mono slab and still
had no heating problem.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: From what site can I get gunzip (the executable)?
Message-ID: <CzJEuL.Kxt@acsu.buffalo.edu>
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I need to "unwrap" some files that have the .gz extension.
So I am looking for the executable gunzip to be able to do it.
If you know of an ftp site that has it. Please let me know.
(I just want gunzip not the whole gnu tools)
Thanks in advance.
See ya,
ZTomas
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From: jseiwert@caprica.com (Joe Seiwert)
Subject: Pentium Machine JC/NX Lion
Keywords: Pentium, JC/NX Lion
Organization: Caprica Telecomputing Resources (213) 526-1195 (14.4KB)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 00:06:54 GMT
Message-ID: <CzJHnJ.Atq@caprica.com>
Summary: Experiences using the JC/NX Lion Pentium machine.
Does anyone have experience using the JC/NX Lion pentium machine? This
machine retails for approx $5000 and has a Weitek P9100 Power Graphics
w/2MB VRAM, 32MB Ram, Eagle NCR 53C825 Fast SCSI-II, Quantum Empire 1GB HD.
From: rvose@sparc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Randy Vose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fujitsu SCSI Drive [black hardware]
Date: 20 Nov 1994 07:14:19 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3amt0b$dkn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Can anyone out there tell me if it's possible to use a 1GB Fujistu 2694
with a Nextstation color (non-turbo) without any great pains? A friend of
mine has a couple for sale pretty cheap and I don't want to buy the drive
if it's not going to work or if I'm going to have to spend a month
figuring out how to make it go...
Please email replies....
Thanks!
Randy Vose Internet: rvose@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois rvose@cs.uiuc.edu
Urbana/Champaignn
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 'Nother Gecko question....
Date: 16 Nov 1994 04:39:53 GMT
Organization: Yale University
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References: <3ab4pg$h3k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In article <3ab4pg$h3k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
writes:
> If you could get a
> 712/60 w/ 64M ram and 17" (1024x768)
> and a
> 712/80 w/ 16M ram and 17" (1280x1024)
> (with additional VRAM)
>
> at roughly the same price, what would you do?
>
> For about a grand I can upgrade the 80 to 32M
> which seems to be a little slim for NS....
What are the constraints in this problem?
Must all parts be purchased from HP? If not, there are
savings to be had in the 3rd party market for RAM
(~$600/16MB), hard disks, monitors, etc.
I got a 712/80 with 16 MB RAM running NEXTSTEP, but it
wasn't very fast in 1280x1024x32 bit video mode. It was
better in 8-bit grayscale.
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Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gekko systems
Date: 16 Nov 1994 04:44:41 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
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References: <3a9n4i$i08@next01.biw.cube.de>
In article <3a9n4i$i08@next01.biw.cube.de> schulz@biw.cube.de (Operator)
writes:
> NeXT said that they no plans to
> make a 3.3 for Gecko. So don't think you will
> get one now.
That's not what a NeXT person said in some email a
few weeks ago. There had better be a NEXTSTEP/HP
3.3 release, as there are plenty of little bugs that
need fixing.
--
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Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
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Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gecko systems
Date: 16 Nov 1994 04:56:15 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Nov14.165134.12695@cs.uno.edu>
In article <1994Nov14.165134.12695@cs.uno.edu> jliew@cs.uno.edu (liew)
writes:
> > Running the 1280x1024x32 bit display seems to really hog
> > RAM. My 712/60 with 64 MB RAM swaps noticeably with not
> > that many apps running.
> We were unable to set our box to that resolution. We're
> about to install HP's VRAM board, maybe that'll do it. In
> any case, if swapping is a problem, why not lower the res. a
> bit, or non-true color?
The VRAM board is required for 1280x1024 video modes.
As for changing the resolution, Config.app only offers
the following modes for our system with the extra VRAM:
1280x1024x32 bit color (great)
1280x1024x8 bit color (avoid if possible)
1280x1024x8 bit grayscale (good)
That's it. Seems like something might be missing...
like, oh I don't know...1120x832x16 (or
1120x832x32) mode, perhaps? After all, wouldn't it be
nice to have be able to have a STANDARD NEXTSTEP VIDEO
RESOLUTION across out three different hardware
platforms? Yes, it would! And it would look good
on 17" displays as well - 1280x1024 can be a bit
to much for that size display.
(Of course, that would also require NeXT to get off it's
duff and add that video mode to the S3 drivers as well!).
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From: hrp@azul.di.uminho.pt
Subject: Buslogic SCSI - PCI
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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 16:30:05 GMT
Does Anyone know's how to put this SCSI (Buslogic PCI)controler to
work on NS 3.2 ?
Thank's
Hugo Pacheco
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From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu SCSI Drive [black hardware]
Date: 20 Nov 1994 17:00:48 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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rvose@sparc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Randy Vose) writes:
>Can anyone out there tell me if it's possible to use a 1GB Fujistu 2694
>with a Nextstation color (non-turbo) without any great pains? A friend of
I put a 2694ESA into my cube about a year ago. Works great, just a little bit
noisy.
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From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Micropolis Internal disk OK for Cube ?
Message-ID: <1994Nov13.222154.535@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <39npm4$6im@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 22:21:54 GMT
In article <39npm4$6im@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert
Hollom) writes:
> I am looking at getting a 1GB disk SCSI disk for my old NeXT cube.
> the model that I am looking at is a Micropolis MIC4110 - will this
> work OK as an internal drive ? Is the power supply in the cube
> compatible, etc.
My external MIC4110 is working fine since about 3 months...
No problems, no errors.
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From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Looking for betatesters for BusLogic BT946C PCI SCSI driver
Date: 20 Nov 1994 11:50:09 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9411201733.AA00254@hurka>
Hi All,
it looks like after number of problems, I manage to adapt my
BusLogicFamily driver to work correctly with BusLogic BT946C PCI SCSI
card. Before final release I would like to find a limited number of people
willing to test the driver on their hardware to see if there are any
compatibility problems.
So if anyone of you is interested in testing the driver, please, contact
me directly at my email address.
Thank you in advance,
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
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From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Re: SCSI on DOS (was Re: More SyQuest infos)
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <CzKz23.7rz@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 19:20:25 GMT
References: <CzAFDt.48r@prz.tu-berlin.de> <1994Nov16.113401.502@nidat.sub.org>
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.386bsd.questions
Hi,
Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote:
[...]
> SCSI disks use a linear address scheme that masks the disk geometry.
> Therefore, you never get any problems with exchanging SCSI disks between
> different machines and controllers. Linear addresses are linear under all
> circumstance.
> Domestos (aka MessyDOS) fdisk is supposing to work on geometry aware
> disks. It addresses cylinders, heads, and sectors like in the old days of
> ST506 and ESDI (and IDE, of course). SCSI controllers have to destroy the
> linear addressing feature of SCSI in order to support DOS (fdisk)
> partitioning, thus the need for address translation, and/or need a special
> fdisk program. Therefore, any SCSI disk that got fdisk partitioned lost
> its universal exchangability in the process (By the way, since the address
> translation makes arbitrary choices the optimization features of fdisk and
> format are very likely to turn out as a shot in your foot). Since NS/FIP
> knows how to work on fdisk partitioned disks (sigh!) there is a danger to
> have unexchangable NS disks, a heavy liability in case of Syquest or any
> similar drives.
Unfortunatly true, but fdisk partition tables contain not only
the partition locations in cylinder/head/sector specs but as
well as in absolute sector specs (starting sector and size)!
So smart system/driver devlopers could choose these entries
to locate the respective partitions on the removable media.
Should be no problem (i.e. naturally) on non-DOS systems to
just ignore the pseudo-physical specs in the fdisk partition
table. Even the DOS file system doesn't use the c/h/s
(except of some not-used entries in the DOS-boot sector)
but clusters (linear addressed!), as far as I know.
To my mind that should be possible also for fixed disks.
Or why not?
Thomas
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From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram)
Subject: Talus NCR and SyQuest SQ3270S?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <CzL1z5.8KG@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 20:23:28 GMT
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Hi,
could somebody please confirm whether the SyQuest SQ3270S
drive works with the Talus NCR driver and the NCR810 on an
ASUS SP3G mainboard?
My brother want to use this combination and I heard
that there are problems (SCSI timeouts) which make
the drive inaccessible and the computer to slow down.
(Cabling and termination were ok.)
Could anyone confirm this or not? Maybe there some
special PCI BIOS settings necessary?
Thanks,
Thomas
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: color printing
Date: 21 Nov 1994 01:55:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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References: <1994Nov18.132915.3010@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
In article <1994Nov18.132915.3010@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> synchronicity!sjb (Stephen J. Bottas) writes:
>Does anyone know if NS supports color printing for my cube?
>Which printers might I try?
>Many thanks.
We are using HP DeskJet 1200C/PS with JetDirect Ethernet MIO card.
Works great with NS3.2 (with my "if" filter). The black hardware
lacks Parallel printer port, so I would not recommend anything less
than those with Ethernet I/O for the black hardware. If you've
tried to print FAX via serial port to a printer, you know what I
mean.
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Machine JC/NX Lion
Date: 21 Nov 1994 02:06:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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References: <CzJHnJ.Atq@caprica.com>
In article <CzJHnJ.Atq@caprica.com> jseiwert@caprica.com (Joe Seiwert) writes:
>Does anyone have experience using the JC/NX Lion pentium machine? This
>machine retails for approx $5000 and has a Weitek P9100 Power Graphics
>w/2MB VRAM, 32MB Ram, Eagle NCR 53C825 Fast SCSI-II, Quantum Empire 1GB HD.
We bought nearly exactly configured Pentium-90 machine from eCesys
for that price, and you don't have to worry about whether it's going
to work. I would recommend buying NS preloaded and configured
at least for your *first* machine with NS/Intel.
Just a word from a satisfied user.
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USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
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From: nkawai@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai)
Subject: Re: Using NeXT printer with Mac or PC
Message-ID: <CzLnKt.D4D@postman.riken.go.jp>
Sender: news@postman.riken.go.jp (News Administrator)
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References: <3aepec$h5v@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 04:10:05 GMT
Todd Takken writes
> Forget it. You can't use a NeXT 400 dpi black and white laser printer
> with ANY computer other than a NeXT.
I thought that the orignal question implied a network connection from the
PC or Mac to the NeXT computer contoling the NeXT printer.
I would also like to know if you can print (by standard print dialog box)
from Macintosh to the NeXT printer over the ethernet, maybe with CAP, but
without expensive hardware (like GatorBox or FastPath) and expensive
software (like IPT Partner).
From: roider@qns.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What Type of Projection Hardware do I need to connect a NSTC
Date: 21 Nov 1994 07:39:32 GMT
Organization: Questar Network Services
Message-ID: <3apirk$p03@qns1.qns.com>
I need any info on what type of projection systems work best with the
monitor outputs of a NeXTStation Turbo color.
Any suggestions would be great!!!
Mitch Roider
From: perry@ccnet.com (Michael Perry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: color printing
Date: 20 Nov 1994 16:47:55 -0800
Organization: CCnet Communications (510-988-7140 guest)
Message-ID: <perry.785378625@ccnet>
References: <1994Nov18.132915.3010@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Which version of the OS are you running?
Versions 2.x did not support the Next Color Printer
(it did not exist yet) nor any other so far as I know.
NextStep 3.x does support color printers, even on the cube.
synchronicity!sjb (Stephen J. Bottas) writes:
>Does anyone know if NS supports color printing for my cube?
[munch]
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From: Julio SALGADO <julio@andes.ch>
Message-ID: <9411210819.AA02198@andes.ch>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 09:19:14 +0100
Subject: Problems with Cube 040-25 /w more than 32MB RAM
Hi,
The problem shows itself only when I load more that 32MB of memory.
After an extensive test, I would like to know if somebody knows this
problem. Find here the step by step testing:
Facts:
1. The cube was working correctly with 16 (4x4) and with the old 16 (16x1).
2. I have always been using 70ns 4 MB SIMMS no-parity with 8-bit-chip
technology (there are 8 chips on the SIMM).
Tests:
To rule out currupt memory, I first took 8 X 4 MB SIMMS and installed
them in the first 8 slots filling two banks.
I re-installed NS3.2 User+Developer from CD and stress tested it 12 hours
(reading disk, reading memory, running many apps in order to keep the memory
full).
No problem.
Then, I replaced ALL the 8 SIMMs with a second set of
(identical) SIMMs and did the same - no problem. Finally, I took 4
more 4MB SIMMS from the first batch and filled one more bank to go
up to 48MB. The system panics - usually with a SIGEMT (Emulation
Trap). It sometimes does not boot from the boot prom after this
happens.
Sometimes, when I turn on the power, the monitor displays a vertically
un-locked screen (lots of wobbly lines, the NeXT logo is there, but
you cannot make it out because it is multiplied ~10 times across the
screen and wobbles black&white -> vertical hold?). In this case I
have to power cycle. This may be a totally unrelated problem.
I think it is a MMU problem which shows up after 32MB, do you have
other input ?
Julio
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From: yangboy@math (B.Y.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: UPS
Date: 21 Nov 1994 10:21:05 GMT
Organization: ???
Message-ID: <3apsah$1mo@netnews.ntu.edu.tw>
Summary: Need to buy a UPS
Keywords: next, UPS
How much power do I need for an old NeXT slab (040) plus a 1GB hard
disk drive? Thanks for any information.
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| "Bridge is a Science, they said hopefully." ... of M. Miles & E. Kantar. |
| "ACBL is for Ayatollah's Correct Bidding Lessons." ... Edgar Kaplan. |
| "System is to Judgment as Strategy is to Tactics." ... Eric Rodwell. |
| "Only wimps are afraid to prepare!" ... <after '90 WOPC> Adam Zmudzinski. |
| >>>> Professor WHO??, Bridge Enthusiast: yangboy@laplace.math.ntu.edu.tw |
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From: schulz@biw.cube.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gecko systems
Date: 21 Nov 94 08:03:38
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <schulz.94Nov218338@gecko03>
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Sorry for my inconvenience but my infos are that there won't be any
3.3 for HP.
---
Kay Schulz
schulz@biw.cube.de
Chaos has been found in systems as diverse as the weather, chemical reactions, biological systems, and even computer networks!
--- Grady Booch ---
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: FirePower
Date: 21 Nov 94 11:37:40 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.785417860@coricopat>
References: <3a87ag$ajm@marsupial.jpl.nasa.gov>
hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov (John B. Hampshire II) writes:
>FirePower (originally formed as Power House Systems, Inc. -- by
>Canon and NeXT), is announcing a series of Power PC machines.
>One of them, the MX4100/2 is a dual 100 MHz system, which sounds
>like the rumored machine that Canon *might* be building and
>NeXT *might* be porting to.
>Does anyone know if there is a NeXT port to PowerPC happening,
>and whether or not FirePower or Canon are in on it?
If NeXT _were_ porting to another new platform, it would hurt
them if the information leaked.
There's nothing wrong with _hoping_ though. :-)
Chris
--
"I ride tandem with a random.."
Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics
Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany
e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de http://www.igd.fhg.de/~neuss/me.html
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From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
Message-ID: <9411211207.AA06806@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 13:08:16 +0100
Subject: PC-NeXT-print
Hi.
In our Sound Engineering Dept. we have a couple of NeXT black hardwares, which are connected to
the network. We have a few PC, too, which are working under PC-NFS. The problem is, that we have
two nice NeXT Printers and we are not able to print on those NeXT Printers from any PC. This is
very important for us so could you help us ?
Could you write me down some information- how we can print on the NeXT Printers from PC, what
we should do to get right connection between PC and NeXT Printers?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Stanislaw Stefanowski, staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Graphics cards: compatability?
Date: 21 Nov 1994 16:17:40 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3aqh74$2tn@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Hello there:
I'm considering building a system and I would like to know if anybody out
there has successfully installed and run NS 3.2 (and NS 3.3 beta) with the
following video cards from ATI:
1. Graphics Pro Turbo
2. Winturbo
3. Graphics Xpression
I'm aware that there's an ATI Graphics Pro driver but I haven't heard whether
that's compatible with the cards listed above.
Please e-mail me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest.
Thanks,
Alex
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SoundBlaster16 support under NS 3.3?
Date: 21 Nov 1994 17:39:46 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3aqm12$3pr@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Hello there:
I would like to know if there will be a driver for the SoundBlaster16 under
NS 3.3 or will I have to purchase the driver through Talus.
Please e-mail me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest.
Thanks,
Alex
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PC-NeXT-print
Date: 21 Nov 1994 17:59:53 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3aqn6p$882@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <9411211207.AA06806@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Well I am not using PC-NFS but PC/TCP from FTP software, but I guess
PC-NFS should do the job as well.
So just start /usr/etc/rpc.pcnfsd on the NeXT. If it complains about a
missing spool directory, create that directory with the appropriate
permissions (and start the daemon again). Now you should be able to
mount directories on the NeXT from your PC's and vice versa. If it
all works,put /usr/etc/rpc.pcnfsd in rc.local for automatic startup.
There also should be some means provided by PC-NFS to print on the server.
With PC/TCP i.e. one can redirect any PC printer port to the PCNFS-server.
And because PCNFS was invented by Sun, there must be some way to print
using their (expensive) client software.
--
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From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Wacom Tablet
Date: 15 Nov 1994 23:00:44 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3abeis$3f4@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <3a9i1g$6ej@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca>
In article <3a9i1g$6ej@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca> twasko@ccinet.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
writes:
|>Does anyone know if there is a Wacom graphics tablet driver for
|>NS/I. NeXT supplies one for NS/M68k. I remember something about
|>Talus releasing a public driver, but can't locate it anywhere.
|>If anyone knows where (or if) such a driver lives, please email
|>me directly.
|>
|>Thanks,
|>twasko@ccinet.ab.ca
Hi,
Write to info@talus.com
Best
Michael
--
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Message-ID: <5aIy9M8WLzB@anni.access.owl.de>
From: ANNI@ACCESS.owl.de (Anni)
Subject: :::DC 2030 Cache Controller:::
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 23:00:00 +0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi guys,
Habe hier einen Cache Controller mit der Aufschrift DC2030A liegen,
Das Ding hat 3 Floppy-/ und 2 Festplattenanschluesse und ist mit 4
Simmbaenken bestueckt, hat ausserdem ne AMD186 CPU mit BIOS drauf.
Nun moechte ich dieses Teil irgendwie zum Laufen bringen, aber 6 Jumper
und 4 Dip-Schalter machen mir die Sache nicht gerade einfach. Da ich fuer
den Controller keine Unterlagen habe, bin ich auf die Experten unter euch
angewiesen.
Also wenn irgendjemand von euch weiss, wie man das Teil konfigurieren
muss, und was alles dabei zu beachten ist, waere ich sehr dankbar.
o
AnNi WaS HeRe ! _/< _
___________________________________(_)>(_)
From: skeezics@teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help! Dove Fax won't send under NS3.2!?
Date: 21 Nov 1994 14:16:15 -0800
Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016
Message-ID: <3ar67f$jcf@elaine.teleport.com>
Summary: receives fine, won't send
Keywords: "local unsupported"
It seems our Dove Fax won't send faxes anymore. I don't think it has
since we upgraded to NeXTSTEP 3.2 (black). I've looked at everything I
can think to look at and there are no clues. The modem dials, connects,
then immediately a dialog pops up and the transmission fails before
anything is actually sent... The dialog that pops up reads (roughly):
Your fax to <so-and-so> at <such-and-such> could not be delivered.
The document uses features not supported by the fax software.
I've tried sending with/without the cover page, with/without "trimming",
in fine and standard resolutions. I've tried sending from different
applications, from Frame to Edit ("This is a test fax." in 10-pt Times
Roman) with the same result.
Looking back through the log file we've had only two or three faxes go
out successfully, but receiving works fine.
This is with version 1.00 of the Dove Fax driver. Anybody have a clue?
A solution? A newer driver? A bridge you want to sell me?
Reg'lar & NeXTmail to chris@coworkers.com would be much appreciated!
Thanks,
-- Chris
--
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Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: NTSC Video Processor Boards for Intel?
Message-ID: <1994Nov22.014756.6916@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 01:47:56 GMT
Are there any boards for Pentium setups that allow you to take in live
NTSC composite interlaced video, digitize it, process it, and/or store it
in real time?
Thanks!
Mark
--
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Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
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From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Machine JC/NX Lion
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 01:47:43 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <pS+1l8H.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <3aovb0$7c7@agate.berkeley.edu> <3arij3$aco@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
<Hal.Varian@umich.edu> writes:
>
>JCIS makes the machines for eCesys (or so I'm told).
>They are exactly the same machine, but JCIS is a little cheaper.
>
>---
Hal:
Just a brief note for clarification:
JCIS did in fact produce our initial product in 1993, which was the
466-IT01. From July - Sept., we continued to use the JC Weitek 9100
video products in our systems which we produced. Since Oct, we have
had no JC related components in our systems. We have significantly
different operational and marketing philosophies, and while we
enjoy a good relationship with JC, they are nevertheless competitors
of ours.
I'll drop you a price list of our current product line. I think you'll
find the units less expensive than comparable JC products.
Regards,
Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille)
Subject: NeXTBus Pinout Wanted
Message-ID: <1994Nov21.225049.13082@ictv.com>
Sender: usenet@ictv.com
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 22:50:49 GMT
I'm looking for the pinout for the NeXTBus, in particular, I'm
interested in hooking a old '030 board to a generic power supply.
I know it needs +5v, +/-12v, but I don't know which pins to supply
it on. I also know that I need to supply it with ground and +5
(I believe) on certain pins to tell it the slot number (in this
case, 0).
Has anyone attempted this before?
Robert
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: rfi@winzlieb.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Subject: HPPA: EISA Video Boards...
Message-ID: <1994Nov22.085053.29855@fokus.gmd.de>
Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system)
Organization: GMD-Fokus
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:50:53 GMT
are still not supported by NeXTSTEP, aren't they? We are planning to buy
several Parallax Video boards for our HPs, but we have to run HP-UX, to
use this nice thing. Are there any plans to support either other EISA
boards or Parallax boards especially? We are (still) very interested in
porting our multi-platform Multimedia Conferencing tool based on these
boards (or adequate boards which support multiple video windows filled
with decompressed M-JPEG frames).
BTW: are there video boards for the Gecko's bus (what's the name?).
Another question: how complex is the writing of a driver for those boards?
Thanks in advance,
Robert.
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From: powell@fsu_1.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ObjectStation Dead Mice
Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:04:31 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <3ar91v$e4v@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Has anyone using Canon Objectstation Mice had problems lately? We just
lost our second (out of 3) and I lost a document I had been working on for
an hour in the process. When I rebooted the mouse worked for a few
seconds until I moved the mouse cable around and it finally died for good.
Did they get a bad batch or what? I'm really glad they have 3 year
warranties now but I'd like the mice to be reliable!
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: freeband@netcom.com (Nick Porcaro)
Subject: DSP Boards for sale
Message-ID: <freebandCzn5sI.G55@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 23:41:05 GMT
** DSP expansion memory for NeXTStation computers **
The board is a 576KB DSP expansion memory board organized as
three non-overlapping 192KB banks: X-data, Y-data and Program. This
compares with NeXT's original DSP memory expansion board, which offered
96KB in an imaged memory configuration. The MusicKit has recently
been modified to support the full 576KB DSP memory.
-- The board is a high-quality, 4-layer board that fits directly
into the DSP memory daughterboard slot on all NeXT slab (NOT cube) computers.
-- The price per board is $299 + $25.42 (CA sales tax) = $324.42.
The University is required to collect sales tax from everyone. Add $10 per
order shipping/insurance. You can pay by:
a) Check. Make check out to ``San Francisco State University
Foundation - Account #380087''. Check cashed when order ships.
b) Credit card. Send card number, type of card, expiration date,
name exactly as written on the card. Card charged when order ships
c) P.O. Purchaser will be invoiced when order ships.
Send to:
Prof. Tom Holton
School of Engineering
San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94132
th@ernie.sfsu.edu
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Machine JC/NX Lion
Date: 22 Nov 1994 01:47:14 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3arij3$aco@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <3aovb0$7c7@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <3aovb0$7c7@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
(Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
> We bought nearly exactly configured Pentium-90 machine from eCesys
> for that price, and you don't have to worry about whether it's going
> to work. I would recommend buying NS preloaded and configured
> at least for your *first* machine with NS/Intel.
> Just a word from a satisfied user.
JCIS makes the machines for eCesys (or so I'm told).
They are exactly the same machine, but JCIS is a little cheaper.
---
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 display driver list
Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:29:34 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3aragu$19f@rosie.next.com>
This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1714.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 DISPLAY DRIVERS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revised: November 21, 1994
Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of
the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most
up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but
does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more
information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or
(800) 955-NEXT.
Key:
Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail
Additional information
PC Bus Abbreviations:
CLB = Custom LocalBus
VLB = VESA LocalBus
PCM = PC/MCIA
Current Availability Codes:
3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2
xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers)
Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers
Future Availability Codes:
3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3
3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships
Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ATI CLB/EISA/VLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Adapters: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
Systems: Intel GX/Pro, Data Gen. Dasher DE2, AST Premmia 4D, Gateway V Series
ATI Mach32 CLB/EISA/VLB/PCI Beta 1704/1705 / 3.3 NA
Adapters: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, ATI Ultra Graphics Pro XLR
Systems: Intel GX/Pro, Data Gen. Dasher DE2, AST Premmia 4D, Gateway V Series
ATI Mach64 VLB/PCI Planned / 3.3 NA
Adapters: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro Turbo
Canon object.station 41 CLB 1632/1674 / 3.3 CD
Systems: Canon object.station 41
Chips & Technologies Wingine CLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Systems: Epson, LGI
Chips & Technologies Wingine 64300 CLB Planned / Q1 95
Systems: NEC Powermate
Cirrus Logic GD542X Family CLB/ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 NA
Cirrus Logic GD5434 CLB/VLB/PCI Beta 1707/1708 / 3.3 NA
Adapters: Diamond Stealth 32
Systems: Elonex WS4100, Intel Premier
Compaq QVision CLB/EISA/PCI 1701/1700 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Compaq QVision 1024E, Compaq QVision 1280E (Compaq QVision 2000 not
supported)
Systems: Compaq Deskpro XE 486, Compaq Deskpro XE 560
DECpc S3Vision864 VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95
Dell DGX (JAWS) CLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Systems: Dell 450DE/2 DGX
Diamond Stealth64 VLB/PCI 1586/1587 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Diamond Steath 64
Diamond Stealth64 DRAM VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95
HP Vectra XP CLB 1588/1589 / 3.3 CD
Systems: HP Vectra XP
Number Nine GXE Family VLB/PCI Beta 1617/1618 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Number Nine GXE Level 10, Number Nine GXE Level 11, Number Nine GXE
Level 12, Number Nine GXE Level 14, Number Nine GXE Level 16 (VRAM)
Number Nine GXE64 Pro VLB/PCI 1584/1585 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Number Nine GXE64 Pro, Number Nine GXE64 Pro-1600 (VRAM) (Number
Nine GXE64 not supported)
Number Nine Imagine128 PCI Planned / Q1 95
S3 805 / 928 CLB/VLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 NA
Systems: IBM PS/ValuePoint
S3 Trio CLB/VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95
STB Pegasus VLB Beta 1619/1620 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: STB Pegasus (VRAM)
Tseng Labs ET4000 CLB/ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Tseng Labs ET4000W32 CLB/VLB Beta 1621/1622 / Q1 95
Adapters: STB Lightspeed
Systems: NEC Image
VGA ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Weitek Power 9000 VLB/PCI 1557/1558 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Diamond Viper, Genoa VideoBlitz 9200
Weitek Power 9100 VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95
Adapters: Diamond Viper Pro (VRAM)
Western Digital WD90C24 CLB Planned / 3.3 CD
Systems: NEC Versa E Series, NEC Versa V Series, Compaq LTE Elite
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 networking driver list
Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:31:53 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3aral9$19i@rosie.next.com>
This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1713.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 NETWORKING DRIVERS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revised: November 21, 1994
Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of
the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most
up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but
does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more
information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or
(800) 955-NEXT.
Key:
Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail
Additional information
PC Bus Abbreviations:
CLB = Custom LocalBus
VLB = VESA LocalBus
PCM = PC/MCIA
Current Availability Codes:
3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2
xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers)
Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers
Future Availability Codes:
3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3
3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships
Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3COM EtherLink III ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Adapters: 3COM EtherLink III
AMD 79C974 CLB/PCI Planned / 3.3 NA
Systems: Compaq Deskpro XL, HP Vectra XU
AMD PCnet32 CLB/PCI 1687/1688 / 3.3 CD
Systems: Canon object.station 41, Elonex WS4100
Cogent EM960 PCI PCI 1668/1667 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Cogent EM960C, Cogent EM960TP, Cogent EM964TP (four ports; only one
supported)
Cogent EMaster EISA EISA 1565/1564 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Cogent EM932, Cogent EM932TP, Cogent EM935XL
HP Vectra XM, XP Integrated CLB 1623/1624 / 3.3 CD
Systems: HP Vectra XM, HP Vectra XP
IBM Token Ring ISA 1524/1523 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: IBM 25F7367, IBM 25F9858, IBM 67XD438, IBM 60G3994A
Intel 82595 Chipset ISA/PCM Planned / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Cogent EM595TP, Cogent EM595C, Cogent EM525, Cogent EM525TP, Cogent
EM525C
Intel EtherExpress 16 ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Intel EtherExpress16, Intel EtherExpress16TP, Intel EtherExpress16C
Intel Flash32 EISA Planned / Q1 95
Adapters: Intel EILA8225
Intel TokenExpress ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
SMC EtherCard Elite Ultra 16 ISA Planned / Q1 95
Adapters: SMC EtherCard Elita Ultra16, SMC EtherCard Elita Ultra16T, SMC
EtherCard Elita Ultra16C
SMC EtherElite 16 ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Xircom Performance Series PCM Planned / Q1 95
Adapters: Xircom PS-CE2-10BT, Xircom PS-CE2-10BC
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 SCSI driver list
Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:34:50 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3araqq$19l@rosie.next.com>
This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1712.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SCSI DRIVERS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revised: November 21, 1994
Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of
the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most
up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but
does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more
information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or
(800) 955-NEXT.
Key:
Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail
Additional information
PC Bus Abbreviations:
CLB = Custom LocalBus
VLB = VESA LocalBus
PCM = PC/MCIA
Current Availability Codes:
3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2
xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers)
Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers
Future Availability Codes:
3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3
3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships
Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Adaptec 154x Family and Compatible EISA/ISA/VLB 1521/1520 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Adaptec 154xB, Adaptec 154xC, Adaptec 154xCF, Adaptec 174xCF
(standard 154x mode only), Bus Logic 542B, Bus Logic 747S, Bus Logic
445S (firmware version 3.31 required for all Bus Logic adapters)
Adaptec 274x and 284x Family EISA/VLB Beta 1691/1692 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Adaptec 2740, Adaptec 2740T, Adaptec 2840
Adaptec 2940 Family & 7870 Integrated PCI Planned / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Adaptec 2940, Adaptec 2940W
Systems: DEC EISA/PCI Server
Adaptec 6x60 Chipset (Add-On/Integ.) CLB/ISA 1675/1676 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Adaptec AVA-1505A, Adaptec AVA-1510A, Adaptec AVA-1520A, Compaq SCSI
Adapter
Systems: Compaq Portable 486/M, Compaq Portable 486/C, Intel GX/Pro
AMD 53C974 Chipset CLB/PCI Planned / 3.3 NA
Systems: Compaq Deskpro XL, HP Vectra XU
BusLogic Family EISA/ISA/PCI/VLB 1685/1686 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: BusLogic 546C, BusLogic 747C, BusLogic 445C, BusLogic 946C
Systems: Canon object.station 41
DPT 2000 Family CLB/EISA/ISA 1625/1626 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: DPT 2012B/9x SmartCache Plus, DPT 2021/9x SmartCache III, DPT
2022/9x SmartCache III, DPT 2122/9x SmartCache III, DPT 2122/9xW
SmartCache III, DPT 2122/9xDW SmartCache III
Systems: NEC Express II P60
NCR 8xx Family CLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95
SCSITape N/A 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:36:30 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com>
This document has just been added to NeXTanswers as document 1711.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Revised: November 21, 1994
Disclaimer: This list is intended as a stopgap measure pending the release of
the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Hardware Compatibility Guide. It includes the most
up-to-date driver availability information possible at the revision date but
does not include in-depth information about the drivers. For more
information, contact NeXT Technical Support at ask_next@next.com or
(800) 955-NEXT.
Key:
Driver Description PC Bus Supported Current / Future Avail
Additional information
PC Bus Abbreviations:
CLB = Custom LocalBus
VLB = VESA LocalBus
PCM = PC/MCIA
Current Availability Codes:
3.2 CD = ships with NEXTSTEP 3.2
xxxx/xxxx = 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers (driver/readme doc numbers)
Beta xxxx/xxxx = beta 3.2 driver available in NeXTanswers
Future Availability Codes:
3.3 CD = will ship with NEXTSTEP 3.3
3.3 NA = will be available in NeXTanswers on or about the time 3.3 ships
Qx 95 = will be available in the listed quarter
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Beep N/A 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Canon object.station 41 CLB 1689/1690 / 3.3 CD
Systems: Canon object.station 41
Compaq Business Audio CLB 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Systems: Compaq Deskpro/M, Compaq Deskpro/I
IntelGXProAudio CLB 1652/1651 / 3.3 CD
Systems: Intel GX/Pro
Microsoft Sound System ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Microsoft Sound System and compatibles
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 ISA 3.2 CD / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Pro Audio Spectrum, Pro Studio
Sound Blaster 16 ISA Planned / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Sound Blaster 16 Basic, Sound Blaster 16 Value, Sound Blaster 16 AWE
Sound Blaster 8 ISA Beta 1695/1696 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Sound Blaster Basic, Sound Blaster Pro, Sound Blaster Deluxe, Sound
Blaster Value
From: veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP drivers for color inkjets?
Date: 22 Nov 1994 00:28:29 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <3ardvd$g0t@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Hello folks, I was just reading the preliminary driver's list for 3.3,
and I was wondering if next or anyone is writing some new drivers for
these cheap color injets that's flooding the market now. I realize
that they're not PS printers, but is there something fundamentally
incompatible about generating bit mapped image on the computer itself
and then just spew out the bits to the inkjet printer? I can't see any
technical difficulty with the concept, so is it just too time
consuming? maybe we can get 8 bit color? 16 bit color? :) [simulated
ofcourse]
Thanx.
Later.
--
David Wang veakblad@eng.umd.edu
Grad student- EE/Computer Engineering
Apprentice Tinker,Basement network administrator.
NSFIP config - 17inch,32meg,1gig.ATI GUP VLB
NeXT config - 17 inch,20meg,400meg,mono
From: wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu (Herbert S. Wilf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Seagate ST12400N/NC question
Date: 22 Nov 1994 03:54:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <3arq1f$21v@netnews.upenn.edu>
Keywords: media error
I just connected my new Seagate drive to my NeXT, and I don't seem
to be able to initialize or even format the disk. I get the following
console error:
/usr/etc/disk -i -h alex -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9
sd1 (3,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x31
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
Read of sector 0 failed
Does this mean that the drive is physically defective?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Message-ID: <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 03:37:56 GMT
Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote:
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS
: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or
Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing".
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: michael@mmgraph.com\ (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ObjectStation Dead Mice
Date: 22 Nov 1994 04:23:46 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3arrok$i45@nntp.crl.com>
References: <3ar91v$e4v@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
In article <3ar91v$e4v@wave.aoml.erl.gov> powell@fsu_1.aoml.erl.gov (Mark
Powell) writes:
> Has anyone using Canon Objectstation Mice had problems
> lately? We just lost our second (out of 3) and I lost a
> document I had been working on for an hour in the process.
> When I rebooted the mouse worked for a few seconds until I
> moved the mouse cable around and it finally died for good.
> Did they get a bad batch or what? I'm really glad they have
> 3 year warranties now but I'd like the mice to be reliable!
Canon is supplying replacement mice to all object.station owners. They
sent out a kind letter of apology, which won't bring back your lost work,
but at least is an admission of resposibilty. The replacement mouse comes
from Canon's OEM, Alps Electric. A call to one of the following should get
your replacement mouse shipped to you:
Canon Help Desk - 1-800-830-1062
Alps Electric - 1-408-432-6000 (David Manner, Input Product Group Mgr)
I've replaced all our mice and all is well.
Michael Rutchik
Senior Graphic Designer
The Clorox Company
michael@clxgraph.com
From: trey@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com (Trey McClendon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: UPS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 21 Nov 1994 22:25:21 -0600
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation
Message-ID: <3arrrh$gac@tybrin4.hsv.tybrin.com>
References: <3apsah$1mo@netnews.ntu.edu.tw>
B.Y. (yangboy@math) wrote:
: How much power do I need for an old NeXT slab (040) plus a 1GB hard
: disk drive? Thanks for any information.
I assume your 1GB disk is internal. The manual states that the power
consumption of a mono system is 150 W. I'd say that's pretty close to
what yours is pulling. Assuming a power factor of .7 that's roughly 215 VAs.
A 250 VA UPS would do unless you have more peripherals, although going to
a 450 VA won't cost much more and you'll get much longer run times on
inverter operation.
: --
: +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
: | "Bridge is a Science, they said hopefully." ... of M. Miles & E. Kantar. |
: | "ACBL is for Ayatollah's Correct Bidding Lessons." ... Edgar Kaplan. |
: | "System is to Judgment as Strategy is to Tactics." ... Eric Rodwell. |
: | "Only wimps are afraid to prepare!" ... <after '90 WOPC> Adam Zmudzinski. |
: | >>>> Professor WHO??, Bridge Enthusiast: yangboy@laplace.math.ntu.edu.tw |
: +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
--
Trey McClendon NeXTMail Accepted TYBRIN Corporation
trey@hsv.tybrin.com Fax: 205-837-3472 Huntsville, AL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Message-ID: <1994Nov22.171444.3800@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchi.test cabal
References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 17:14:44 GMT
In article <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote:
>Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote:
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or
>Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing".
I'm not either. I've got both a Roland SCC-1, and a Gravis Ultrasound, and I was
hoping that I would get support from one of them. Does this mean I need to put my
Sound Blaster which I bought 4 years ago into my computer? The damn 8bit thing?
That's really, really outdated? I'm not even sure that it is new enough to be
supported...
Are there any sound drivers avalible from thrid party for the SCC-1 or GUS?
--
E. Larry Lidz -- ellidz@midway.uchicago.edu
From: tony@cscnext3.essex.ac.uk (Lawson A S)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diamond Stealth64 PCI Card
Date: 22 Nov 1994 14:46:49 GMT
Organization: Essex University, England
Message-ID: <3at08q$klb@seralph9.essex.ac.uk>
I have just taken delivery of P66/PCI PC, on which I want to run NexTStep, and
I am trying to install 3.2. The system has a Diamond Stealth 64 PCI card. I
have installed and configured the driver from NextAnswers, but at boot time, at
the stage of configuring drivers, the systems gives a message
Display0: S3 964 not found
-IOProbeDriver: No such Device, device DiamondStealth64DisplayDriver unit 0
I found the DS driver in the 3.2 drivers directory on ftp.next.com. But looking
through some more documentation the ftp server (1714_3.3_Display_Drivers), I
then found...
Diamond Stealth64 VLB/PCI 1586/1587 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Diamond Steath 64
Diamond Stealth64 DRAM VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95
and I happen to have the DRAM card. So, here are the questions..
Is the message at boot time consistent with having the wrong card, or is there
something else I am missing anyway ?
Do I really have the wrong card ?
Is the DS64 (without the DRAM) above the VRAM version, and if so, can I expect
to make this work without difficulty ?
--
Tony Lawson
Department of Computer science
University of Essex
Wivenhoe Park
Essex C04 3SQ
Tel: 0206-872670
Fax: 0206-872788
E-mail: tony@essex.ac.uk
From: jlrussel@apollo16.ecn.purdue.edu (James L. Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MIDI interface for black hardware?
Date: 15 Nov 1994 01:39:52 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: ?
Message-ID: <3a93h8$p3j@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
What MIDI interfaces are available for Moto hardware, if any??
Thanks,
Jim Russell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: From what site can I get gunzip (the executable)?
Message-ID: <Czos70.3oy@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <CzJEuL.Kxt@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 20:42:35 GMT
In article <CzJEuL.Kxt@acsu.buffalo.edu> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
writes:
| I need to "unwrap" some files that have the .gz extension.
| So I am looking for the executable gunzip to be able to do it.
| If you know of an ftp site that has it. Please let me know.
| (I just want gunzip not the whole gnu tools)
| Thanks in advance.
| See ya,
|
| ZTomas
|
Hi Jose,
gunzip is included in NeXTSTEP
Nice Greetings from Munich
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: PC-NeXT-print
Message-ID: <CzosCs.3qI@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <9411211207.AA06806@next.elka.pg.gda.pl>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 20:46:03 GMT
In article <9411211207.AA06806@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Stanislaw Stefanowski
<staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> writes:
| Hi.
| In our Sound Engineering Dept. we have a couple of NeXT black hardwares, which are
connected to
| the network. We have a few PC, too, which are working under PC-NFS. The problem is,
that we have
| two nice NeXT Printers and we are not able to print on those NeXT Printers from any PC.
This is
| very important for us so could you help us ?
| Could you write me down some information- how we can print on the NeXT Printers from
PC, what
| we should do to get right connection between PC and NeXT Printers?
| Any help will be greatly appreciated.
|
| Stanislaw Stefanowski, staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
Hmmmm, I think you are not able to talk to the NeXTprinter from your
PC.
What you can do, is to print your files as postscript files into one
special directory mounted to your pc through pc-nfs. Then print the
ps-files on your Nextmachines using Preview.app
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: NTSC Video Processor Boards for Intel?
Message-ID: <Czosos.3r9@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Michael Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <1994Nov22.014756.6916@Radical.Com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 20:53:16 GMT
In article <1994Nov22.014756.6916@Radical.Com> Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
writes:
| Are there any boards for Pentium setups that allow you to take in live
| NTSC composite interlaced video, digitize it, process it, and/or store it
| in real time?
|
| Thanks!
| Mark
|
| --
| Mark Tarbell ( Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com )
| Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
| System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
| rad.i.cal \rad'-i-kel\ adj: of or relating to the origin: FUNDAMENTAL
Screen-Maschine II from FAST-Electronics supports NTSC as well.
For further infos please mail to michael gloede at interpersonal computer
in Munich - Germany sm@interpc.de
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: andrea.salati@galactica.it (ANDREA SALATI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Informations about NeXTbus
Message-ID: <89E230B.07800002CA.uuout@galactica.it>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 12:59:00 +0100
Organization: GALACTICA PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION - ++39-2-29.00.61.50
Hello,
a friend of mine is going to produce a paper for the university where he
works about the ISA/VL/EISA/MCA/PCI bus.
He would also add the NeXT bus but it seems he cannot find any
information about it. If you know where it is possible to find a
description of the NeXT bus, please send me an e-mail.
Bye
Andrea (andrea.salati@galactica.it)
From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 display driver list
Date: 22 Nov 1994 18:17:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3atck2$14q@rosie.next.com>
References: <3aragu$19f@rosie.next.com>
In response to a few questions we've gotten about the driver lists, I should
clarify that these lists show NeXT-provided drivers only. In particular, the
fact that the display driver list does not include Miro or Elsa drivers does
*not* mean that these cards will be unsupported in 3.3, merely that we do not
provide those drivers.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (csmith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXFax and 8data bits
Date: 22 Nov 1994 21:52:10 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3atp6a$s05@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have NXfax running on a NeXT 040 Cube running NeXTStep 3.1.
I can only get 7data bit data connections. Trying to use 8 data bits w/
no parity gives me this ....
CONNECT 38400
NeXT / NXFax (ido) (ttydfa)
ido login: csmith
Password:
Last login: Tue Nov 22 15:07:04 on ttydfa
You have mail.
(garbage 8bit to 7bit translation of shell prompt)
more garbage, etc......
I am calling from a NeXT Station with a Zyxell 1496E to a Cube with another
Zyxell 1496E. I have done an "at&v0" on both modems to check their
settings, and both are set to use 8 data bits, no parity.
Also, the /etc/gettytab file has the following lines.
default:\
:zp:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:\
:er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :sp#38400:
and
NXFaxA:zp:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:sp#38400:
Anybody have any suggestions?
Chris
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (csmith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax and 8data bits
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 22 Nov 1994 22:25:47 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <3atr5b$4o@portal.gmu.edu>
References: <3atp6a$s05@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Never mind, I have solved the problem
After reading the man pages on getty, I read the man pages on gettytab.
Then I read man on tty. Then I started reading every man page referenced
by any of the other man pages. Eventually, I read the man page on login.
--excerpt from "man login"
After a successful login, accounting files are updated and
the user is informed of the existence of mail. The message
of the day is printed, as is the time of his last login.
Both are suppressed if he has a ".hushlogin" file in his
home directory; this is mostly used to make life easier for
non-human users, such as uucp.
Login initializes the user and group IDs and the working
directory, then executes a command interpreter (usually
csh(1)) according to specifications found in a password
file. Argument 0 of the command interpreter is the name of
the command interpreter with a leading dash ("-").
Well, I was getting a good report of mail when logging in with
8 data bits, so the problem was post-mailcheck. I made a motd. It
read ok. So it wasn't motd. So we come to the shell. I run tcsh.
I changed me shell to csh. No more problem.
So, tcsh (or at least my compile of tcsh) is not 8 bit clean.
Sigh
Thanks for your help. Add this to your database of suggestions.
Christian Smith
csmith@gmu.edu
http://www.ido.gmu.edu/~csmith
From: calhoun@leland.Stanford.EDU (ron calhoun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI error number 65...
Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:03:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <3atf9c$q7s@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hi, I have a next cube 040 that when trying to boot from the
hard drive says: " scsi error , smd cmd 0, short read".
I thought maybe it was a bad hard drive, but then when I
boot from the magneto-optical disk, this error appears..
"scsi error #65", which when I look it up in nextanswers,
means "can't load test counter.."
Can anyone tell me if I really need to replace the whole mother board
or what? The people at the next repair number say that it
will be $538 for a mother board trade. Does anyone know of a cheaper
way to fix this?
Ron Calhoun
calhoun@jessica.stanford.edu
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics cards: compatability?
Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:36:13 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3ath7d$lsn@hermes.dna.mci.com>
References: <3aqh74$2tn@hermes.dna.mci.com>
In article <3aqh74$2tn@hermes.dna.mci.com>,
Alex Nghiem <alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> wrote:
>Hello there:
>
>I'm considering building a system and I would like to know if anybody out
>there has successfully installed and run NS 3.2 (and NS 3.3 beta) with the
>following video cards from ATI:
>
>1. Graphics Pro Turbo
>2. Winturbo
>3. Graphics Xpression
>
>I'm aware that there's an ATI Graphics Pro driver but I haven't heard whether
>that's compatible with the cards listed above.
>
>Please e-mail me directly and I'll summarize if there's interest.
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Alex
The verdicts are in!
There's a (free) driver for Graphics Pro Turbo and it seems to work well
for the people who answered to my post. Nodody seems to know whether
there are drivers for the other two cards, Winturbo and Graphics Xpression.
Thanks for all the help,
- Alex -
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Date: 22 Nov 1994 20:55:23 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3atlrr$av@filtronix.eunet.be>
References: <1994Nov22.171444.3800@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <1994Nov22.171444.3800@midway.uchicago.edu>
ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes:
> In article <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com>
wrote:
> >Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote:
> >:
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> >: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS
> >:
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> >
> >I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or
> >Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing".
Somebody was working on a Turtle Beach driver but I don't remember who.
> I'm not either. I've got both a Roland SCC-1, and a Gravis Ultrasound,
and I was
> hoping that I would get support from one of them. Does this mean I need
to put my
> Sound Blaster which I bought 4 years ago into my computer? The damn
8bit thing?
> That's really, really outdated? I'm not even sure that it is new enough
to be
> supported...
>
> Are there any sound drivers avalible from thrid party for the SCC-1 or
GUS?
Guess you could always make your own and shareware it with the others in
your case:-)
Filip
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSFIP drivers for color inkjets?
Date: 22 Nov 1994 20:59:45 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
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In article <3ardvd$g0t@mojo.eng.umd.edu> veakblad@glue.umd.edu (David T.
Wang) writes:
>
> Hello folks, I was just reading the preliminary driver's list for 3.3,
> and I was wondering if next or anyone is writing some new drivers for
> these cheap color injets that's flooding the market now. I realize
> that they're not PS printers, but is there something fundamentally
> incompatible about generating bit mapped image on the computer itself
> and then just spew out the bits to the inkjet printer? I can't see any
> technical difficulty with the concept, so is it just too time
> consuming? maybe we can get 8 bit color? 16 bit color? :) [simulated
> ofcourse]
The thing you're looking for is GhostScript. I am been running GhostScript
3.12 with my HP-DJ520 but it also supports the DJ-550/560 in color-mode.
GhostScript 3.12 ought to be PostScript Level II compatible which means
that I haven't found any thing that wouldn't print with it:-)
Filip
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From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Date: 23 Nov 1994 09:42:23 GMT
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References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>
In article <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>, salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
>I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or
>Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing".
A Turtle Beach DSP card is already supported by MusicKit.
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work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting
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From: dekorte@symnet.net (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: From what site can I get gunzip (the executable)?
Date: 23 Nov 1994 07:19:43 GMT
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Distribution: na
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References: <CzJEuL.Kxt@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Jose Tomas Henriques writes
> I need to "unwrap" some files that have the .gz extension.
> So I am looking for the executable gunzip to be able to do it.
> If you know of an ftp site that has it. Please let me know.
> (I just want gunzip not the whole gnu tools)
> Thanks in advance.
> See ya,
>
> ZTomas
I think ftp.cs.orst.edu has a binary for NS Black.
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From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger)
Subject: Re: From what site can I get gunzip (the executable)?
Message-ID: <1994Nov23.061332.18599@news.vanderbilt.edu>
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Jose Tomas Henriques (jh@acsu.buffalo.edu) wrote:
: I need to "unwrap" some files that have the .gz extension.
: So I am looking for the executable gunzip to be able to do it.
: If you know of an ftp site that has it. Please let me know.
: (I just want gunzip not the whole gnu tools)
: Thanks in advance.
: See ya,
: ZTomas
:
TRY to enter this at a terminal window:
man gzip
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@aBlackNeXT.called.garfield
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From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger)
Subject: Syquest SQ3270 Question:
Message-ID: <1994Nov23.062738.18686@news.vanderbilt.edu>
Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu
Organization: a black NeXT
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 06:27:38 GMT
Is 220 MB on this drive the maximum for NeXTStep or is higher
capacity possible by editing /etc/disktab ?
disk -F
(format) tells me that this is a 256MB disk and
Workspace Format menu (actually initialize) tells
that there are unallocated sectors.
Thanks,
--
Thomas Katzlberger
katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
@aBlackNeXT.called.garfield
The AUSTR(al)IAN from EUROPE.
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From: roffel@biw.cube.de (Lee Roffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE: Problems with Cube 040-25 /w more than 32MB RAM
Date: 23 Nov 1994 13:32:40 GMT
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Message-ID: <3avg9o$817@next01.biw.cube.de>
References: <9411210819.AA02198@andes.ch>
Keywords: cube next memory
In article <9411210819.AA02198@andes.ch> Julio SALGADO <julio@andes.ch>
writes:
> Hi,
>
> The problem shows itself only when I load more that 32MB of memory.
> After an extensive test, I would like to know if somebody knows this
>
> problem. Find here the step by step testing:
--- munch ---
> I think it is a MMU problem which shows up after 32MB, do you have
> other input ?
>
> Julio
> _____________________________________________________________
> Andes Informatique SA Internet: jcsalgado@andes.ch
Hi... I have also experienced memory config problems with my 'new' cube...
It had run for months straight.. with 16 * 1MB simms... with no problems..
as a server... on the net... etc...etc...etc... with many apps being
remotely run on it from Intel boxes. Therefore.. no major hardware
problelms.
I had adjusted the memory config ... 4 * 4MB simms.. and the rest 1MB
simms... giving a total of 28MB. (right?)
Well.. after an undetermined amount of time.. I also received many strange
and reproduceable problems.. including SIGEMT, specifically in a 'tcsh'
when typing ll (alias ls -alg), Wingz (spreadsheet), Improv, Opener,
normal tar/untar, compress/un.., and just about every other app decided
not to work properly anymore...
Then came the boot problems.. to which I could inclde here a half-megabyte
of my console messages to show the testing... which contain messages like:
Oct 28 22:56:32 myth1 mach: audio kernel server initialized
Oct 28 22:57:23 myth1 loginwindow[178]: loginwindow: could not find
WindowServer port!
Oct 28 22:57:26 myth1 mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Oct 28 22:57:26 myth1 mach: audio kernel server initialized
Oct 28 22:58:16 myth1 loginwindow[182]: loginwindow: could not find
WindowServer port!
Oct 28 22:58:18 myth1 mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Oct 28 22:58:18 myth1 mach: audio kernel server initialized
Oct 28 22:59:07 myth1 loginwindow[186]: loginwindow: could not find
WindowServer port!
Oct 28 22:59:10 myth1 mach: audio kernel server unloaded
--------- and
Oct 28 23:59:55 myth1 reboot: Reboot complete
Oct 29 00:00:05 myth1 mach: audio kernel server initialized
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: WindowServer: Exception caught:
PS-108.1 on host `myth1', user `root': Emulation exception (SIGEMT),
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: [ pc = 0x18fe6
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: , from 0x41b0
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: , from 0xa196
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: , from 0x4d362
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: , from 0x4ea8a
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: , from 0x4d8c8
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: , from 0x3450
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 WindowServer[163]: ]
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 loginwindow[162]: failure initializing dictionary
Oct 29 00:00:06 myth1 loginwindow[162]: DPS client library error: Could
not form connection, host local host
Oct 29 00:00:09 myth1 mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Oct 29 00:00:09 myth1 mach: audio kernel server initialized
--------------
Oct 29 13:02:25 localhost reboot: Reboot complete
Oct 29 13:02:36 localhost mach: audio kernel server initialized
Oct 29 13:02:41 localhost loginwindow[162]: objc: TextFieldCell: does not
recognize selector -initTextCell:
Oct 29 13:02:41 localhost mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Oct 29 13:02:42 localhost mach: audio kernel server initialized
Oct 29 13:02:43 localhost loginwindow[165]: objc: TextFieldCell: does not
recognize selector -initTextCell:
Oct 29 13:02:43 localhost mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Oct 29 13:02:43 localhost mach: audio kernel server initialized
-- these sections were repeated in sort of an 'endless loop'
..and have as yet come to no logical conclusion about the problems.
When I ran the system with only 12MB (12 * 1MB), 16MB (4 * 4MB, 16 * 1MB)
there appeared to be no major problems. With any other combination of
available memory... 28MB (exchanging many 1MB simms) .. there appeared
many problems again.
I have just received my NeXTDimension board, and would like to run with a
little more memory than 16MB on my cube... so....
HELLLLPPPPP!!!!!!!!!
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Lee Roffel NeXTMail: roffel@biw.cube.de
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From: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (G. A. Pohl)
Subject: odd SIMM???
Message-ID: <1994Nov23.103813.376@utata.wy.in-berlin.de>
Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl)
Organization: WYDOKS-International, Berlin
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 10:38:13 GMT
Recently I bought 2x SIMM-PS2-16MB-NonParity put it into our
TurboDimensionSystem and got a lot of trouble since then: usually panics
with the description "Error during table walk" & lots of hex mem addresses
Did anyone made experiences with the following desribed chips?
SIMM-PS2-16MB-NonParity(8chips):
sign on the simm card 4036L
sign on the chips:
980
ZR17400J
VP4273 4B
Or could somebody tell me wheter it IS 70ns, as I bought it for?
THANK YOU
--
.. viel Spasz!
G.R.I.S.U.
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video cards explained in the latest issue of PC magazine
Date: 22 Nov 1994 21:39:37 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3atoep$nac@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Hello there:
The latest issue of PC magazine contains a review of various display
adapters on the market. The article includes info on the chip set which
each display adapter uses, which is useful when determining whether a
particular driver will support a card you intend to purchase.
It's already helped me eliminate some previously potential candidates since
the adapters are not on the supported list for 3.3 (I know that other sources
do _potentially_ provide drivers).
Hope this helps some folks out there.
- Alex -
From: cdodson@vortex.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ProAudioSpectrum 16 & ISA woes
Date: 23 Nov 1994 18:02:40 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3b0040$oa7@transfer.stratus.com>
What's the deal here anyway ?
I have two virtually identical Intel boxes that behave *very* differently
when trying to play sounds. Here's the scoop..
System 1 -> 486/66 AMI EISA motherboard - sounds play with no problems
whatsoever.
System 2 -> 486/100 AMI ISA motherboard - 8khz sounds are OK, but any higher
sampling rate sounds are looped, skipped and garbled. Note
that I can both play and record the same higher rate sounds
(up to 44.1khz) in Windows on this box with no trouble.
The last part about Windows leads me to believe there's a problem with the
NeXTStep Driver (surprise, surprise). But why does it work on an EISA system
and not on ISA ?
I've tried playing games with the DMA/IRQ without much luck, but I'll
gladly try any "home remedies" that may have worked for you.
Thanks for any insight you may have.
Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
From: gfs@rice.edu (Geoff Spradley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 24 Nov 1994 01:23:02 GMT
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Message-ID: <3b0ptm$8fc@larry.rice.edu>
References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> <3av2pv$2cms@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Markus Wenzel (wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
: A Turtle Beach DSP card is already supported by MusicKit.
Unfortunately, there are no _SoundKit_ drivers for it yet, so
you can't play .snd files through it. With the MusicKit you
can synthesize sounds (using FM, plucked strings, and a
variety of other algorithms) and schedule MIDI events (if
you have an MPU401-style card) in real time.
--Geoff
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From: rvose@sparc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Randy Vose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Drive Enclosures [black hardware]
Date: 24 Nov 1994 02:29:28 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Thanks to everyone who responsded to my original post about the Fujitsu
2694ESA drive. I have purchased two of these guys and am now searching
for an enclosure to house them in.
My Fujistsu 2624FA came from Tecor already in an enclosre. I really like
the case, but since Tecor is now a thing of the past, I have to find
another souce. If someone out there could recommend (via mail) a company
where I can get a decent enclosure (power supply strong enough to handle
both drives, cooling fan, fuse protection, etc.) I'd appreciate it.
The 2694ESA is a 3.5" half-height drive. I'd like to put both of them
in the same box, but it's not mandatory. My existing enclosure came from
a company called Trimm Industries in North Hollywood, CA, but I'm assuming
that they only made the case, and not the fan, power supply, etc.
Any info is greatly appreciated...
Happy Turkeyday to everyone!
Randy Vose Internet: rvose@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
University of Illinois rvose@cs.uiuc.edu
Urbana/Champaignn
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From: uppy@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (John Uppgren)
Subject: New DELL Graphics Chip "Trio" Need NS Driver
Message-ID: <Czp5x1.5ts@news.cis.umn.edu>
Keywords: Graphics #9
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 01:39:42 GMT
We have recently purchased a slew of new DELL pentium machines. They have
a new #9 GXE chip (S364"Trio"). Anybody know of a driver or mod for using
this chip in color? Thanks.
Please respond to john_uppgren@gage.com
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Date: 23 Nov 1994 09:56:40 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
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References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>
In article <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>, Marc Salvatori <salvo@eskimo.com> wrote:
>Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote:
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or
>Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing".
Well, there is a driver for the Turtle Beach's 56001 DSP the comes with
the MusicKit. I have it loaded right now in anticipation for my card's
arrival. The Tahiti, MultiSound Monterey, and MultiSound Classic are
supported by this driver. The guys at CCRMA use this card along with the
Music Quest MIDI card (driven by the MPU-401 MIDI driver). Too bad the
Turtle Beach MultiSounds aren't MPU-401 coz then it could be used for DSP and
MIDI. But I did get email from someone working on a MIDI driver for the
TurtleBeach.
>--
>>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
>
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From: patrick@idyll.com
Subject: Re: UPS
Message-ID: <Czr1K7.12n@idyll.com>
Keywords: ups,sine wave
Sender: phickey@idyll.com (Patrick T. Hickey)
Organization: Idyll Communications, literally
References: <1994Nov23.180113.4577@Radical.Com>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 02:00:06 GMT
It's worth noting Mark understand his fundamental electronics to a high
degree. His advice is solid.
I have used APC (American Power Conversion) "Smart" UPS units for my
black hardware with great success. I use a 1200 watt unit (sine wave
output) for a Cube server and color slab with CD, color printer and
scanner hung off of the color unit SCSI bus. All are connected to the UPS
and I have ridden on battery for 40 minutes with everything on.
Just hearing how often the system cuts to battery, if only for a
moment, is something which reinforces my decison to invest in this gear.
regards
patrick
In article <1994Nov23.180113.4577@Radical.Com> Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com
(Mark Tarbell) writes:
> In comp.sys.next.hardware article <3apsah$1mo@netnews.ntu.edu.tw> wrote:
> > How much power do I need for an old NeXT slab (040) plus a 1GB hard
> > disk drive? Thanks for any information.
>
> Hi.
>
> The original NeXT slabs had a switch-mode power supply that would
> draw about 150 watts (approx 210 volt-amps or VA) when fully loaded.
>
> Keep in mind that if you ever do connect external scsi drives to the
> unit, if they're not on the UPS as well, you will likely get disk
> corruption on power outages, so you might want to get a beefier UPS.
> Estimate about 75 watts (100 VA) for each additional external drive.
>
> Note also that the cheaper UPSes will stress the power supplies of
> your NeXT and disk drives every time the UPS switches on. This is due
> to square-wave output (high RF harmonics) instead of sine-wave output.
> Switch-mode power supplies are notoriously sensitive to such harmonics.
>
> Also, most cheaper units don't sync their output with the 60Hz line,
> creating electrical glitches and spikes in the process. For occasional
> use, they're probably okay, but if you're in a power-outage-prone area,
> you would do best by investing in a decent unit.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mark
>
> --
> Mark Tarbell ( Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com )
> Senior Systems Design Engineer
> Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
> System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
> rad.i.cal \rad'-i-kel\ adj: of or relating to the origin: FUNDAMENTAL
From: mueller@vera.imsd.uni-mainz.de (Robert Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: next paper cartridge
Date: 24 Nov 1994 12:45:00 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3b21sc$l6o@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hallo,
does anyone know where we can get/buy a
NEW PAPER CARTRIDGE FOR THE GOOD OLD BLACK NEXT LASER PRINTER?
It is in deed urgent, because we can not print just one sheet of paper ...
(Oh god, why did NeXT stopped their hardware production ...)
Robert (life is senseless without the possibility to print news)
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Medizinische Informatik
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und Dokumentation
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Universit tskliniken Mainz
From: alexh@halcyon.com (Alex Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black hardware SCSI
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 04:35:00 -0800
Organization: Alex Hartley and Associates
Message-ID: <alexh-2411940435000001@blv-pm0-ip4.halcyon.com>
References: <39r015$bt@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <CzBKM4.IpG@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <CzBKM4.IpG@news.cis.umn.edu>, klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu
(James P Klett) wrote:
> Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote:
> : Can someone please explain to me whether making black hardware
> : SCSI-2-capable requires a hardware modification, or is it just a driver
> : issue? If it's a driver issue, could DriverKit be used to write a black
> : SCSI-2 driver? It would really be nice to be able to take advantage of
> : the SCSI-2 capabilities of new drives.
> : ---
>
> Well, my black machine has a SCSI-2 port on the back, works great!
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> James P. Klett klett002@maroon.tc.umn.edu
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What is the difference beetween SCSI-1 and SCSI-2?
How can I re-build a disk on a cube via ethernet to another cube?
Alex
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URL: http://www.iquest.net/alex/alex.html
From: maissa@ecu.unice.fr (Maissa Philippe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: Installing NS on a HP PA-RISC system
Date: 24 Nov 1994 15:25:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3b2b8f$qs@taloa.unice.fr>
We would like to install NextStep on a HP 735/125 /80M RAM / 1Go fast wide
scsi (fwscsi) internal hard drive .
During the installation we have difficulties with the fwscsi HD.
Does anyone know what to do? Is there a driver for such a HD ?
Many thanks.
MAISSA Philippe
Institut Non Lineaire de Nice
C.N.R.S. U.M.R.129 / U.N.S.A.
1361, route des lucioles
Sophia Antipolis
06560 Valbonne - France -
e-mail: maissa@doublon.unice.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (G. A. Pohl)
Subject: Re: odd SIMM???
Message-ID: <1994Nov24.112411.959@utata.wy.in-berlin.de>
Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl)
Organization: WYDOKS-International, Berlin
References: <1994Nov23.103813.376@utata.wy.in-berlin.de>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 11:24:11 GMT
Sorry for being imprecisely,
it has nothing to do with the dimension, as I hope, because I put the
SIMMs into the CPUboard.
I didn t wrote down the panic output uptonow, it is not recorded by the
system; but it looks like
MMU desriptor (?) error
what points in my understanding towards some memory faults.
THANK YOU, Grisu
> Hi,
>
> It's not clear from your message whether you put these on your ND board
> or your motherboard. The ND board will _not_ accept 16MB SIMMS -- 8 is
> maximum.
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, 23 Nov 1994, G. A. Pohl wrote:
> >
> > Recently I bought 2x SIMM-PS2-16MB-NonParity put it into our
> > TurboDimensionSystem and got a lot of trouble since then: usually
panics
> > with the description "Error during table walk" & lots of hex mem
addresses
> >
> > Did anyone made experiences with the following desribed chips?
> >
> > SIMM-PS2-16MB-NonParity(8chips):
> > sign on the simm card 4036L
> > sign on the chips:
> >
> > 980
> > ZR17400J
> > VP4273 4B
> >
> > Or could somebody tell me wheter it IS 70ns, as I bought it for?
> >
>
--
.. viel Spasz!
G.R.I.S.U.
From: Jay Patel <jpatel@cerfnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS Modems.
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 94 18:12:09 PDT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <3b2lj1$o1p@news.cerf.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi all,
I've got NS running on my system after much fiddling with hardware and I want
to avoid repeating the process for modems. What I want to do is setup NeXT
Mail with a SLIP connection and enable the sending/receiving of faxes. I've
got a Practical Peripheral 14400FX9600 and have no idea if it works with NS.
Question 1: Am I out of my mind trying to get this to work?
Q2: Has anyone got something like this working and how?
Q3: Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
Thanks
Jay Patel, NeXT newest newbie of the week.
jpatel@cerfnet.com
From: hoess@ic1.tynet.sub.org (Michael Hoess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: GUS-SoundCard
Date: 21 Nov 1994 11:30:12 GMT
Organization: InterComp1
Message-ID: <3aq0c4$2na@ic1.tynet.sub.org>
Hi !
I own a nice GravisUltraSound-Card and I m looking now for NSI3.2-Driver
for it.
Could anybody tell me where I could obtain such a driver (if one exists),
or if there is one under development ?
Thanx
Michael Hoess
From: scott@atlanta.com (Scott M. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Improved driver for parallel printers? (NS 3.2 Intel)
Date: 22 Nov 1994 21:06:29 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3atmgl$19v@metro.atlanta.com>
I vaguely remember someone posting about a freeware driver (perhaps on
announce?) for improved parallel printing for NS/Intel 3.2. I can't seem to
find this driver. Does anyone know if it's out there, and if so, where?
--
Scott M. Jones Atlanta, GA, USA
scott@atlanta.com <---NeXTmail welcome here
sjones@netcom.com
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/Intel printing woes
Date: 23 Nov 1994 17:51:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3avves$9mu@news.u.washington.edu>
I'm running NS/Intel 3.2 on a Dell Optiplex XL/590. I recently purchased
a HP LaserJet 4MP (6MB RAM, PS Level 2) for use with this system, and so
far, printing has been a disaster!
First, I configured the system to print via the parallel port. The
PrintManager test page prints fine. But whenever I print any but the most
simplistic graphics or text, the system panics. I've configured the
printer's parallel port to low speed, uni-directional, with no apparent
effect on the problem. I also tried using the replacement parallel port
driver (ParallelPortDriver1.1) with no better results.
So I configured the printer for the serial port, using the NeXT serial
driver. I'm running the serial port/printer at 57.6Kb, hardware flow
control, DTR high. Again, the PrintManager test page printed fine.
However, I waited well over an hour for my first attempt to print a single
page of text using a single font (Helvetica--a built-in font on the HP) to
appear, and finally killed the job in exasperation. The whole time, the
printer looked like it was getting data--at least, the front panel lights
suggested it was.
This system is an intended replacement for a large number of NeXT systems
that are nearing their effective life spans. How can I realistically
recommend NS/Intel if this is the type of problem I have to deal with?
If anyone has a suggestion on what may be going on, or a possible
solution, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
NeXT, are you listening?
Sign me,
Losing Sleep in Seattle.
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com
Subject: Re: 1.2M NSFIP boot floppy
Message-ID: <1994Nov23.151511.17598@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: news@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <ATHAN.94Nov21171328@bwit169.morgan.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 15:15:11 GMT
Andrew Athan writes
>
> Forgive me if this is a repeat. Our news server has been acting funny
and I
> have a feeling my previous message did not make it out to the world.
>
> Last night, I spent some time hacking together a boot floppy that can be
used
> to bootstrap NeXTSTEP w/o having to have a NeXTSTEP partition on your
IDE
> drive. It is annoying that if you have IDE, you *must* boot off of it
(BIOS
> imposed) however, it is more annoying that NeXT does not provide an
option
> where you can install less than 50M worth of stuff on your IDE in order
to
> bootstrap NeXTSTEP. What my efforts will lead to shortly is a
methodology to
> create a 1 or 2M partition on your IDE drive (or simply the use of a
floppy)
> from which you can start up NeXTSTEP on a SCSI root device.
>
Did you look at NeXTAnswers #1487?
I have a 7 MB NEXTSTEP partition on my IDE drive that I use to boot and
then load NEXTSTEP on my SCSI drive.
> Because of limitations w/ BIOS's capability to deal with large drives, I
> could not use BuildDisk or the normal installation procedure to put
NSFIP on
> /dev/sd0a (my SCSI 1.7G drive). Instead, I tar'ed over the CD. I then
> renamed NextCD to NextCDStuff, and played with creating a boot floppy.
> Everything works fine in terms of the statup sequence, however, when
> loginwindow runs, it thinks I am trying to install NeXTSTEP and runs
> Configure.app followed by BuildDisk.app.
>
> "strings" on the app shows that it knows about files like
> /usr/Devices/System.config/CDIS.custom, and another called
BuildDisk.custom.
> Creating and/or copying those files into what I believe are the right
places
> does not seem to stop loginwindow's behavior.
>
> *does anyone know how to get "loginwindow" to behave normally?* Is it a
> dwrite? Can someone perhaps send me the output of a dread -l from root
on a
> 3.2 NSFIP system?
>
> Thanks,
> aca
I think the tail is trying to wag the dog here. ;-)
Why not disable the IDE drives via the system BIOS and then enable the
BIOS and INT19h handling on the SCSI controller to boot and load your SCSI
drive with NEXTSTEP? Once NEXTSTEP is loaded on the SCSI drive, create
the 7 MB partition on your IDE drive and load the required files as
outlined in NeXTAnswers #1487. Reenable your IDE drives in the system
BIOS and disable INT19h handling on the SCSI controller. The system
should boot from the IDE drive and when NEXTSTEP is selected it should
load from the SCSI drive.
It's been awhile since I performed this procedure so it is a little fuzzy
in my memory. I am, however, currently booting NEXTSTEP from a 7 MB IDE
partition and running it from a 1.6 GB SCSI drive and it works great!
As a side note, if you ever hose up the IDE drive using this scheme, you
can still boot NEXTSTEP from the SCSI drive by simply disabling the IDE
drives in the system BIOS and enabling INT19h handling on the SCSI
controller.
Best of luck.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with Cube 040-25 /w more than 32MB RAM
Date: 23 Nov 1994 18:07:34 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3b00d6$eib@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <9411210819.AA02198@andes.ch> <3avg9o$817@next01.biw.cube.de>
Lee Roffel (roffel@biw.cube.de) wrote:
: Hi... I have also experienced memory config problems with my 'new' cube...
: It had run for months straight.. with 16 * 1MB simms... with no problems..
: as a server... on the net... etc...etc...etc... with many apps being
: remotely run on it from Intel boxes. Therefore.. no major hardware
: problelms.
: I had adjusted the memory config ... 4 * 4MB simms.. and the rest 1MB
: simms... giving a total of 28MB. (right?)
: Well.. after an undetermined amount of time.. I also received many strange
: and reproduceable problems.. including SIGEMT, specifically in a 'tcsh'
: when typing ll (alias ls -alg), Wingz (spreadsheet), Improv, Opener,
: normal tar/untar, compress/un.., and just about every other app decided
: not to work properly anymore...
We have several Cubes and Stations running with 28MB with the same
memory configuration as you with no problems. Is the parity on all
the memory the same? Maybe you have a bad chip or two? Just some
suggestions...
--
| Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
| rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: yoda@rescomp.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.3 Plug & Play PCI
Date: 25 Nov 1994 00:40:09 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3b3bp9$all@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
NS 3.3 is supposed to support the Plug and Play spec right?
And aren't all (or at least most) PCI cards Plug and Play? Are they?
If they are, then shouldn't NS 3.3 support all PCI cards?
Terry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Message-ID: <9411231607.AA01574@nesteggs.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1)
From: "Michael E. Crawford" <crawford@nesteggs.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 94 10:07:33 -0600
Subject: Subject: SCSI error number 65...
Cc: calhoun@jessica.stanford.edu
Hi
First thing I'd try is a different hard drive (a known working one).
I was plagued by that bugaboo in a 1GB drive, and the system stayed comatose
as long as the drive was on the bus.
As soon as I replaced that drive with a new one, my system jumped up, and was
its snappy perky self again.
Soon you'll be asking yourself soul-searching backup questions, though if
you're lucky, as I was, your village's scsi savant can dig out that piece of
irreplaceable data.
Good luck in your journey.
Michael Crawford
nesteggs
Houston
begin forwarded excerpts:
From: calhoun@leland.Stanford.EDU (ron calhoun)
Subject: SCSI error number 65...
Date: 22 Nov 1994 19:03:08 GMT
Hi, I have a next cube 040 that when trying to boot from the
hard drive says: " scsi error , smd cmd 0, short read".
I thought maybe it was a bad hard drive, but then when I
boot from the magneto-optical disk, this error appears..
"scsi error #65", which when I look it up in nextanswers,
means "can't load test counter.."
Can anyone tell me if I really need to replace the whole mother board
or what?
(snip, snip)
Ron Calhoun
calhoun@jessica.stanford.edu
end forwarded excerpts
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A Speaker Killed my MegaPixel!
Date: 24 Nov 1994 10:36:59 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <3b1qcb$pqv@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <3b0rfl$565@net.auckland.ac.nz>
Keywords: disaster, kabooom, Aaaarrghhhh
In article <3b0rfl$565@net.auckland.ac.nz>,
steve brandon <sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>Beware: I had one of my NS10M monitor speakers mounted just
>above and to the right of my MegaPixel display, for about
>a day. Now the top right hand side of the picture is pulled
>into the corner, leaving the picture misshapen. Thankfully
>the corner has not disappeared, but the right hand side of
>the display is about 7 or 8mm taller than the left. It
>doesn't look very good at all. Even with the speaker gone,
>the damage has remained. Can anything be done about this,
>or is it permanent?
Have you cycled the power? Most video display equipment
includes degaussing circuits that try to undo such effects,
but they frequently operate only during the power-on
sequence.
>Anyway, just a warning to keep transformers, magnets and
>speakers away from MegaPixels.
Always good advice with any video equipment.
--
<> "I have AIDS. I could be an African-American woman, a
<> Latino man, a 10-year-old boy or girl. AIDS has many faces.
<> And AIDS knows no class or gender, race or religion, or
<> sexual orientation. AIDS does not discriminate. But George
<> Bush's White House does."
<> -- Bob Hattoy
<> at the Democratic National Convention, 1992
--
Opinions expressed herein have no connection with the UW-Madison.
Jess Anderson anderson@doit.wisc.edu
From: ckminer@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Chris Miner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI, a Fujitsu M2263SA, Seagate ST3283N, and scsi bus hung
Date: 23 Nov 1994 19:48:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College
Message-ID: <3b06b9$1u6c@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Hola, Tschuss, Hello Netfolk,
So I have this Fujitsu M2263SA in an external enclosure, which I have
been using for about 3 years without a hitch, when I find a need to
chain an additional external enclosure with a Seagate ST3283N
installed. As far as I am able to tell the Seagate is not internally
terminated, and neither is the Fujitsu. (However, the Fujitsu people
couldn't tell me why a drive jumpered for external termination seems
to run just fine without its external terminator.)
The problem is that when I try to chain these enclosures and boot my
machine I get the message 'SCSI bus hung' every time. Any ideas about
why this might happen, or what the fix is? Anyone know why the
Fujitsu appears to run unterminated, while the Seagate promptly
screws the scsi bus? Any idea as to how I can be sure the Fujitsu
isn't terminated?
The Specifics
Physical layout
scsi-2 to DB-50 cable to the Fujitsu
DB-50 to CN-50 to the Seagate
Seagate terminated with CN-50 terminator.
Logical layout
Fujitsu scsi id 2
Seagate scsi id 3
Thanks so much,
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: UPS
Message-ID: <1994Nov23.180113.4577@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <3apsah$1mo@netnews.ntu.edu.tw>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 18:01:13 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <3apsah$1mo@netnews.ntu.edu.tw> wrote:
> How much power do I need for an old NeXT slab (040) plus a 1GB hard
> disk drive? Thanks for any information.
Hi.
The original NeXT slabs had a switch-mode power supply that would
draw about 150 watts (approx 210 volt-amps or VA) when fully loaded.
Keep in mind that if you ever do connect external scsi drives to the
unit, if they're not on the UPS as well, you will likely get disk
corruption on power outages, so you might want to get a beefier UPS.
Estimate about 75 watts (100 VA) for each additional external drive.
Note also that the cheaper UPSes will stress the power supplies of
your NeXT and disk drives every time the UPS switches on. This is due
to square-wave output (high RF harmonics) instead of sine-wave output.
Switch-mode power supplies are notoriously sensitive to such harmonics.
Also, most cheaper units don't sync their output with the 60Hz line,
creating electrical glitches and spikes in the process. For occasional
use, they're probably okay, but if you're in a power-outage-prone area,
you would do best by investing in a decent unit.
Hope this helps.
Mark
--
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Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
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From: chipsig@kaiwan.kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TwinHead Laptop
Date: 23 Nov 1994 14:47:12 -0800
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/638-4133)
Message-ID: <3b0gpg$r70@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
I'm making the jump to NFI by picking up a TwinHead 486DX4 100mhz laptop.
I hope to heck I'm doing the right thing with the machine. It seems to me
that bang for the buck, it is close to the top of the list. I'm concerned
about drivers, both video and cdrom, as well as potential problems with the
video display which is only dual-scan, not active. My hope is that the 100mhz
will offset the benefits of active matrix. Additionally, I hope that the cdrom
will talk to NeXTstep.
My experience with NS has been strictly Motorola based for the last 3 years,
but an 040/33 just isn't there anymore, and this NeXTdimension is a killer to
take on an airplane.
Anyone with experience with this particular machine and NFI? If not, any
generic tips for Laptops and NFI would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all,
Chip
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From: sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (steve brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: A Speaker Killed my MegaPixel!
Date: 24 Nov 1994 01:49:41 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland
Message-ID: <3b0rfl$565@net.auckland.ac.nz>
Keywords: disaster, kabooom, Aaaarrghhhh
...well not really, just damaged it.
Beware: I had one of my NS10M monitor speakers mounted just
above and to the right of my MegaPixel display, for about
a day. Now the top right hand side of the picture is pulled
into the corner, leaving the picture misshapen. Thankfully
the corner has not disappeared, but the right hand side of
the display is about 7 or 8mm taller than the left. It
doesn't look very good at all. Even with the speaker gone,
the damage has remained. Can anything be done about this,
or is it permanent?
Anyway, just a warning to keep transformers, magnets and
speakers away from MegaPixels.
Spewing,
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail welcome!
From: rjh@baby (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT printer cables
Date: 24 Nov 1994 18:16:58 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3b2laq$p9o@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I have got a NeXT cube and printer but have not got the proper lead that
should go between them - I have made up a cable as per the pin connections
in the manual but the printer refuses to print and the computer reckons
these is nothing connected to the port :-(
So is there anything special about the cable other than the connections ?
Thanks for any info.
Rupert.
From: bortfeld@intel3.cube.de (Ulrich Bortfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXTSTEP + 2 ethernet adaptors possible ?
Date: 25 Nov 1994 10:29:46 GMT
Organization: Cube Informationssysteme GmbH, Stuttgart, FRG
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3b4eaq$2kr@cubenx.cube.de>
Hi there !
- has anybody ever used 2 ethernet adaptors in an intel
box under NEXTSTEP ?
- anybody ever ran a terminal server with NEXTSTEP ?
( please reply to fschneid@cube.de )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sta@logibec.com
Subject: Re: PC-NeXT-print
Message-ID: <1994Nov24.180402.25616@logibec.com>
Sender: news@logibec.com
Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada
References: <CzosCs.3qI@muaddib.m.isar.de>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 18:04:02 GMT
In article <CzosCs.3qI@muaddib.m.isar.de> mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian
Goedel) writes:
> In article <9411211207.AA06806@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Stanislaw Stefanowski
> <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> writes:
> | Hi.
> | In our Sound Engineering Dept. we have a couple of NeXT black hardwares,
which are
> connected to
> | the network. We have a few PC, too, which are working under PC-NFS. The
problem is,
> that we have
> | two nice NeXT Printers and we are not able to print on those NeXT Printers
from any PC.
> This is
> | very important for us so could you help us ?
> | Could you write me down some information- how we can print on the NeXT
Printers from
> PC, what
> | we should do to get right connection between PC and NeXT Printers?
> | Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> |
> | Stanislaw Stefanowski, staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
>
> Hmmmm, I think you are not able to talk to the NeXTprinter from your
> PC.
>
> What you can do, is to print your files as postscript files into one
> special directory mounted to your pc through pc-nfs. Then print the
> ps-files on your Nextmachines using Preview.app
>
> Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
> --
> Michael Maximilian Goedel NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de
> LiNUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org
> SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
NOT TRUE, any PC with PC-NFS can route the LPT1: or LPT2: to
any UNIX LPD.
Our PC prints on Next Black Printer.
Important:
Your Next sould run "rcp.pcnfsd" (source provided by PC-NFS)
you have to compile it and run it on the UNIX machine.
Stephane
From: anders@iapetus (Anders H|kback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Color scanner for NeXT?
Date: 25 Nov 1994 13:30:30 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <3b4otm$vss@columba.udac.uu.se>
We want to attach a color scanner to a NeXT-station.
Wich scanners work with NeXT and what kind of
programs exists?
Anders
anders@rhea.teorfys.uu.se
Systems Administrator
Dept. of Theoretical Physics
Uppsala University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown)
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Plug & Play PCI
Message-ID: <1994Nov25.155807.3245@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <3b3bp9$all@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 15:58:07 GMT
Terry Lee writes
> NS 3.3 is supposed to support the Plug and Play spec right?
>
> And aren't all (or at least most) PCI cards Plug and Play? Are they?
>
> If they are, then shouldn't NS 3.3 support all PCI cards?
>
> Terry
Plug & Play is simply a standard for the configuration of cards. I believe it
allows the BIOS / OS to assign the system resources (i.e. IRQs and DMA
channels) to the cards dynamically. This means that you don't have to
configure jumpers, or even be aware of what IRQs and DMAs have been assigned to
or are free for Plug & Play devices.
Unfotunately this has nothing to do with full operating system support for
individual cards. Drivers must still be written on a per/card basis.
--
_______________________________________________________________
/ Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \
| NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily |
| Synectic Design | represent those of my employer |
| ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. |
\___________________________|___________________________________/
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics cards: compatability?
Date: 25 Nov 1994 17:10:42 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3b55qi$64@filtronix.eunet.be>
References: <3ath7d$lsn@hermes.dna.mci.com>
In article <3ath7d$lsn@hermes.dna.mci.com> alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex
Nghiem) writes:
> There's a (free) driver for Graphics Pro Turbo and it seems to work well
> for the people who answered to my post. Nodody seems to know whethe
> there are drivers for the other two cards, Winturbo and Graphics
> Xpression.
It will all depend on which RAMDAC they use and which RAMDAC's are
supported bye the driver. Is there someone that could find out which
RAMDAC's are used on these boards (maybe by calling ATI in Canada)?
Filip
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI, a Fujitsu M2263SA, Seagate ST3283N, and scsi bus hung
Date: 25 Nov 1994 18:17:50 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3b59oe$i07@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3b06b9$1u6c@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
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ckminer@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Chris Miner) writes:
>been using for about 3 years without a hitch, when I find a need to
>chain an additional external enclosure with a Seagate ST3283N
>installed. As far as I am able to tell the Seagate is not internally
>terminated, and neither is the Fujitsu.
Are you sure both drives are not terminated ? There are usually sockets for
three termination resistors on the board just behind the SCSI connector.
If they are empty, the drive is not terminated.
(However, the Fujitsu people
>couldn't tell me why a drive jumpered for external termination seems
>to run just fine without its external terminator.)
It can work if the SCSI cable is pretty short.
You should also check which device provides the termination power :
In the case of a NeXT computer the SCSI adaptor provides the power,
termination power on all other devices should be turned off.
Also make sure that the Seagate is set to asynchronous (non-fast) SCSI, NeXT
computers can't handle fast SCSI.
Cheers, Ernst.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gh@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gordon Hundley)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth64 PCI Card
Message-ID: <CzuDJ4.3AI@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Compulink Information eXchange
References: <3at08q$klb@seralph9.essex.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 21:11:28 GMT
tony@cscnext3.essex.ac.uk (Lawson A S) writes:
: I have just taken delivery of P66/PCI PC, on which I want to run NexTStep, and
: I am trying to install 3.2. The system has a Diamond Stealth 64 PCI card. I
: have installed and configured the driver from NextAnswers, but at boot time, at
: the stage of configuring drivers, the systems gives a message
:
: Display0: S3 964 not found
: -IOProbeDriver: No such Device, device DiamondStealth64DisplayDriver unit 0
Sympathy but no help from here I'm afraid. I took delivery of a P90/PCI
machine a couple of months ago, and then waited for ages for my copy of
Openstep Developer Starter Kit to arrive (that's NeXTstep 3.2). Today it
did, and I gleefully ripped open the package, and popped the CD and floppy
into my machine. When the configuration dialogue let me select a display
adaptor, I picked S3, since that was closest to the Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM
that the dealer fitted in my machine.
I've got some low resolution B&W display for my development machine. Um.
I think I'll butcher my own computer and use the CL card in there. Maybe
I can get colour and some more pixels out of it. I think that the dealer
(who was told the machine would have to run NeXTstep 3.2) is getting the
Stealth card back. About the only "operating system" that seems to
reliably support it is Windows 3.11. I don't play with that...
What does the jury recommend as a replacement card?
Gordon.
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From: smurp@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Shawn Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 25 Nov 1994 17:58:49 -0700
Organization: Alberta SuperNet Inc
Message-ID: <3b6189$4s2@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca>
Has anybody had any luck getting the Fujitsu 230 MB MO working with black
hardware?
Much twiddling of the DIP switches on the mechanism has done
nothing but contribute to a large variety of error conditions. The chief
symptom is that when disks are inserted there is no indication that the
WorkSpace has noticed the insertion of a blank disk.
I just bought this little guy and haven't been able to get it to do a
thing. I'm not even sure that it is spinning up. Never having used it
successfully I don't know what healthy sounds are for it. All I can say
is that it is *very* quiet compared to a IBM 128 MO drive.
Any experience out there?
Thanks a bunch
========================================================================
Shawn Murphy smurp@supernet.ab.ca
========================================================================
From: jmccutch@lynx.dac.neu.edu (jeffrey mccutchen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 060 and nextcube
Date: 26 Nov 1994 04:29:22 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Message-ID: <3b6dj2$s25@chaos.dac.neu.edu>
Hi, Does anyone know if the 68060 will work with the nextcube? I know
it has more pins but I have a conversion socket.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: A Speaker Killed my MegaPixel!
Message-ID: <1994Nov26.023645.18051@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <3b1qcb$pqv@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 02:36:45 GMT
In article <3b1qcb$pqv@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess
Anderson) writes:
> In article <3b0rfl$565@net.auckland.ac.nz>,
> steve brandon <sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>
> >Beware: I had one of my NS10M monitor speakers mounted just
> >above and to the right of my MegaPixel display, for about
> >a day. Now the top right hand side of the picture is pulled
> >into the corner, leaving the picture misshapen. Thankfully
> >the corner has not disappeared, but the right hand side of
> >the display is about 7 or 8mm taller than the left. It
> >doesn't look very good at all. Even with the speaker gone,
> >the damage has remained. Can anything be done about this,
> >or is it permanent?
>
> Have you cycled the power? Most video display equipment
> includes degaussing circuits that try to undo such effects,
> but they frequently operate only during the power-on
> sequence.
What has occurred is that you have inadvertently induced a persistent
magnetic field in the picture tube. This can happen when a constant
(non-randomized) magnetic field induces a magnetic moment in material which
is susceptible to the retention of a magnetic field (i.e., you've magnetized
it).
This can be reversed by applying a strong randomized magnetic field to the
tube: Degauss it! If the automatic degaussing circuit in your Megapixel is no
longer functioning (or is not strong enough to randomize the induced magnetic
field), you can use a TV degaussing coil.
If you choose the latter, here's how to do it without damaging your equipment
(some parts of your equipment MUST NOT be demagnetized):
1. Unplug the Megapixel display.
2. Remove your cube / slab from the room.
3. Plug in (or switch on) the degaussing coil at least 10 feet away
from, and in front of, the FACE of the Megapixel tube.
4. While you slowly rotate the degaussing coil (making a vertical circle),
slowly move closer and closer to the face of the tube.
5. When you are about 2 or 3 inches from the face of the tube, reverse
step 4 by walking away from the tube, still rotating the coil.
6. When about 10 feet away, turn off / unplug the coil.
7. Reconnect your system -- it should be cured. If the effects are
still there, only less so, repeat the procedure, taking more time
in step 5.
--
Mark Tarbell ( Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com )
Senior Systems Design Engineer
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
rad.i.cal \rad'-i-kel\ adj: of or relating to the origin: FUNDAMENTAL
From: hendryj@mcs.com (Jonathan Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A Speaker Killed my MegaPixel!
Date: 26 Nov 1994 05:17:27 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3b6gd7$p9s@News1.mcs.com>
References: <1994Nov26.023645.18051@Radical.Com>
Mark Tarbell writes
>If you choose the latter, here's how to do it without damaging your equipment
>(some parts of your equipment MUST NOT be demagnetized):
>
>1. Unplug the Megapixel display.
>2. Remove your cube / slab from the room.
>3. Plug in (or switch on) the degaussing coil at least 10 feet away
> from, and in front of, the FACE of the Megapixel tube.
>4. While you slowly rotate the degaussing coil (making a vertical circle),
> slowly move closer and closer to the face of the tube.
>5. When you are about 2 or 3 inches from the face of the tube, reverse
> step 4 by walking away from the tube, still rotating the coil.
>6. When about 10 feet away, turn off / unplug the coil.
>7. Reconnect your system -- it should be cured. If the effects are
> still there, only less so, repeat the procedure, taking more time
> in step 5.
This procedure also cures goiters, and will ensure plentiful crops for many
moons.
Don't forget to inscribe a pentagram around the monitor, lest the tiny demons
what live inside escape and possess your noggin.
Also, during the procedure, you must intone the magic word "cheeba"
continuously.
--
Jonathan W. Hendry hendryj@mcs.com
From: guzyk@aol.com (Guzyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: JCiS ...anygood?
Date: 26 Nov 1994 01:25:03 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3b6kbv$i5v@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
I got a flyer in the mail from JCiS (Fremont, CA) who make NeXT optimized
Intel boxes. Has anyone bought from them?
Do they support their products well or did you have a nightmare
experience?
Paul Guzyk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: Using a Terminal with NS/Fip?
Message-ID: <1994Nov26.070916.24375@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchi.test cabal
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 07:09:16 GMT
Is it possible to hook up a terminal to a NS/Fip machine by simply plugging
it into the serial port and changing the standard software setups?
I've been thinking in investing in a cheap VT100 compatible terminal, and
want to know if I will be able to use it when I buy NS/Fip. (I currently use
Linux...)
Thanks.
-Larry.
From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth64 PCI Card
Date: 26 Nov 1994 08:50:26 GMT
Organization: schiele computertechnik, 76199 Karlsruhe
Message-ID: <3b6ssi$n62@ts2.schiele-ct.de>
References: <CzuDJ4.3AI@cix.compulink.co.uk>
In article <CzuDJ4.3AI@cix.compulink.co.uk> gh@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gordon
Hundley) writes:
> tony@cscnext3.essex.ac.uk (Lawson A S) writes:
> : I have just taken delivery of P66/PCI PC, on which I want to run NexTStep,
and
> : I am trying to install 3.2. The system has a Diamond Stealth 64 PCI card. I
> : have installed and configured the driver from NextAnswers, but at boot
time, at
> : the stage of configuring drivers, the systems gives a message
> :
> : Display0: S3 964 not found
> : -IOProbeDriver: No such Device, device DiamondStealth64DisplayDriver unit
0
>
> Sympathy but no help from here I'm afraid. I took delivery of a P90/PCI
> machine a couple of months ago, and then waited for ages for my copy of
> Openstep Developer Starter Kit to arrive (that's NeXTstep 3.2). Today it
> did, and I gleefully ripped open the package, and popped the CD and floppy
> into my machine. When the configuration dialogue let me select a display
> adaptor, I picked S3, since that was closest to the Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM
> that the dealer fitted in my machine.
>
> I've got some low resolution B&W display for my development machine. Um.
> I think I'll butcher my own computer and use the CL card in there. Maybe
> I can get colour and some more pixels out of it. I think that the dealer
> (who was told the machine would have to run NeXTstep 3.2) is getting the
> Stealth card back. About the only "operating system" that seems to
> reliably support it is Windows 3.11. I don't play with that...
>
> What does the jury recommend as a replacement card?
>
> Gordon.
> --
> | Gordon Hundley gh@cix.compulink.co.uk |
> | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
> | Compulink Information eXchange - Europe's largest conferencing system |
> | Data lines +44-81-390-1255 X25 NUA 2342 1330 0310 |
In NeXTanswers you find:
Diamond Stealth64 VLB/PCI 1586/1587 / 3.3 CD
Adapters: Diamond Steath 64
Diamond Stealth64 DRAM VLB/PCI Planned / Q1 95
--
Jochen Richter
Akademiestrasse 16 Phone: +49-721-9 20 30 90
D-76133 Karlsruhe Fax: +49-721-9 20 30 99
Germany e-mail: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: JCiS ...anygood?
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 94 06:20:30 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <ZWx3lW2.ecesys@delphi.com>
References: <3b6kbv$i5v@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Or alternatively, you could consider eCesys:
=========================================================================
About eCesys,Inc.
=========================================================================
eCesys was founded in early 1993 to provide Intel Hardware to the
NEXTSTEP community. We specialize in developing, producing and testing
hardware which leads the industry in speed, reliability, low cost and
NEXTSTEP compatibility. We continually bring the latest PC hardware
technology to our customers and our objective is to combine quality
hardware, the latest NEXTSTEP drivers and an internal certification
process to produce reliable NEXTSTEP platforms.
Our customers include individual users, developers, and system integrators
in both corporate and academic environments. In all cases, we make every
effort to ensure that your NEXTSTEP deployment on Intel hardware is a
seamless, cost effective solution.
===========================================================================
Regards,
Bob
From: tbm@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Martin Michlmayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q] Will this system work?
Date: 26 Nov 1994 12:39:03 GMT
Organization: University of Innsbruck, Austria
Message-ID: <3b7a97$dch@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
Summary: will my new pci system run under NEXTSTEP?
Keywords: PCI, NEXTSTEP, miro, Talus, NCR, ASUS, SPG3
I'm going to buy a new computer soon, so please help me, Thanks!
ASUS PCI/ISA SPG3 with NCR SCSI on board
i486 DX/2 66
2x16 MB PS/2 RAM with parity
IBM Spitfire 1.0, 1.05 GB, 8.6 ms, FAST-SCSI-2, 3.5" x 1"
miro 20 SV PCI
17" monitor (82kHz)
3 button mouse
- Do you know if it will run under NEXTSTEP (3.2 and later 3.3)?
- Do you have any experience with the Talus NCR SCSI driver?
What is its performance? How much is it?
- Is miro 20 SV a good choice for NEXTSTEP?
I heard that the driver should be available for free,
could someone send me a uuencoded copy of it? (No NeXTMail please)
Thanks!
Can it display 90 or 95 Hz at 1024x786 ? (my monitor can)
- Why is PS/2 RAM with parity better?
- Do you have some more information about the ASUS SPG3 board?
thanks for your help,
--
Martin Michlmayr <tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at>
From: wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Date: 22 Nov 1994 15:06:40 -0800
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <3atti0$omv@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com>
Marc Salvatori writes:
>Ethan Straffin (estraff@tori.next.com) wrote:
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>: PRELIMINARY NEXTSTEP 3.3 SOUND DRIVERS
>: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>I'm *not* impressed. Until something on par with Turtle Beach or
>Roland appears, I'll forego the "sound thing".
You'd be pretty silly to buy a $400 sound card to work with NEXTSTEP's sound,
since all NEXTSTEP does is blat 16-bit samples, and a SB-16 can do
this as well as a Roland.
On the other hand, if you want to use MusicKit, the Turtle Beach card
is supported now.
-Wil
From: wesel@ping.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel PLATO / BusLogic BT946C
Date: 26 Nov 1994 14:48:37 GMT
Organization: Student (Technical University of Vienna)
Message-ID: <3b7hs5$j2q@pong.ping.at>
I have troubles to install NeXTStep 3.2.
My hardware configuration:
INTEL P90 BIOS Version 1.00.10.AX1
BusLogic BT946C BIOS Vers. 4.86 Firmware 4.22
MIRO 20SV PCI Rev. 2.0
Harddisks: ID 0 SEAGATE 31200N FAST SCSI II (1 GB)
ID 1 SEAGATE 11200N FAST SCSI II (1 GB)
CDRom: ID 4 TOSHIBA XM3401B
The loaded Buslogic Driver, which is loaded with a disk, hangs when
the driver is executing (scanning device components) during installation.
The last message on the screen is:
BusLogic Controller on IRQ 11
AUTO-SCSI-UTILITY (BusLogic): IRQ: 11
ISA DMA: 5
HOST ID: 7
PARITY: YES
TERMINATION: YES
TRIGGER: LEVEL
INT PIN: C
INT 19: YES
> 1GB: YES
> 2 Drives: NO (also YES tested)
BUS Reset: YES
DEFAULT PORT: YES (also NO tested)
Please give me some tips!
best regards
Peter Wesel
wesel@ping.at
P.S. The DOS Drivers works fine!
From: andrewwelc@aol.com (AndrewWelc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Please help NeXT Newbie
Date: 26 Nov 1994 11:20:19 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3b7n83$ndr@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Hi folks -- I'm hoping you can help me out a bit. I work for a
Macintosh-only software company; we are interested in setting up a 56K
line and our own Internet domain/ftp site.
I don't feel the Macintosh would be the best platform to run as an
Internet server, so I'm looking into picking up a DOS box with NeXTSTEP on
it. Questions:
1) Is there anyone who will provide me with a complete solution out of the
box, including the computer, monitor, keyboard, sound card, video card,
ethernet card, and NeXTSTEP installed?
2) How easy will it be to integrate the NeXTSTEP machine with the rest of
our Ethernet network?
3) I want to get a NeXT box because I like the OS, and a GUI on top of
UNIX would be ideal, as my UNIX experience is limited to a year or two of
programming on Suns -- do you think I'm making the right choice?
4) Are there any particular systems you recommend (hard drive size,
processor, brand, etc) for what we're going to use the machine for (ftp
server, list server, mail server, newsfeed, etc)?
Regards,
Andrew Welch
Ambrosia Software, Inc.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fast IDE disk vs. normal SCSI-II ?
Date: 26 Nov 1994 20:00:12 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <3b844c$hcb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Ok, I've read that EIDE is technically inferior to SCSI-II. But in fact,
if I get a fast EIDE disk (IBM 0662 A10, 1GB), wouldn't it perform as
good as a slow SCSI-II disk (NEC, 1GB) ? Any experiences with NEC disks ??
With NEXTSTEP's non-support for EIDE, is it possible to use the first
500MB of a GB EIDE disk for NEXTSTEP, and the rest, let's say for Linux ?
Any first-hand experiences ?
I intend to use the disk on a Intel Plato/Premiere board, just as second
disk (first is SCSI).
--
| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT |
| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: Preliminary NEXTSTEP 3.3 sound driver list
Message-ID: <CzwB6J.1Iv@eskimo.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3aratu$19m@rosie.next.com> <CznGrG.D3x@eskimo.com> <3avono$iqe@cobber.cord.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 22:15:49 GMT
Wil Shipley (wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com) wrote:
: You'd be pretty silly to buy a $400 sound card to work with NEXTSTEP's sound,
: since all NEXTSTEP does is blat 16-bit samples, and a SB-16 can do
: this as well as a Roland.
:
: On the other hand, if you want to use MusicKit, the Turtle Beach card
: is supported now.
MIDI is my primary interest; sound is a secondary interest. I'd like
NS to have both. For MIDI, my preference is Roland, but I could
settle for Turtle Beach if I had to.
Jon Doroin (doroin@cobber.cord.edu) wrote:
: Well, there is a driver for the Turtle Beach's 56001 DSP the comes with
: the MusicKit. I have it loaded right now in anticipation for my card's
: arrival. The Tahiti, MultiSound Monterey, and MultiSound Classic are
: supported by this driver. The guys at CCRMA use this card along with the
: Music Quest MIDI card (driven by the MPU-401 MIDI driver). Too bad the
: Turtle Beach MultiSounds aren't MPU-401 coz then it could be used for DSP and
: MIDI. But I did get email from someone working on a MIDI driver for the
: TurtleBeach.
I'll be reading up on this MusicKit, now that I just acquired it from
Stanford. I sense it is more than just a collection of drivers; that
it is a developers tool kit. Then there is the matter of finding
application software such as sequencers. . . .
Geoff Spradley (gfs@rice.edu) wrote:
: Unfortunately, there are no _SoundKit_ drivers for it yet, so
: you can't play .snd files through it. With the MusicKit you
: can synthesize sounds (using FM, plucked strings, and a
: variety of other algorithms) and schedule MIDI events (if
: you have an MPU401-style card) in real time.
Even with 3.3, it looks as if separate hardware must be acquired to
enjoy both MIDI and sound. Am I missing something here, or is it fair
to conclude that NeXTStep is anything but multi-media complete due to
its weak audio support?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: UPS
Message-ID: <CzwBxH.39z@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <3apsah$1mo@netnews.ntu.edu.tw> <1994Nov23.180113.4577@Radical.Com>
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 22:31:59 GMT
Mark Tarbell (Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com) wrote:
: Note also that the cheaper UPSes will stress the power supplies of
: your NeXT and disk drives every time the UPS switches on. This is due
: to square-wave output (high RF harmonics) instead of sine-wave output.
: Switch-mode power supplies are notoriously sensitive to such harmonics.
It's nearly overwhelming wading through the various "features"
associated with UPS's. Thanks for pointing out that(if I understand
you correctly) it is more desireable to acquire a UPS that provides an
output waveform that is sinewave.
: Also, most cheaper units don't sync their output with the 60Hz line,
: creating electrical glitches and spikes in the process. For occasional
: use, they're probably okay, but if you're in a power-outage-prone area,
: you would do best by investing in a decent unit.
I'm not sure how to identify this feature in a brochure. Does "single
phase" ouput correctly address the sync issue? While I initially was
impressed with Best units, Liebert's power conditioning units look
most appealing at this point of my research.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff editors and sources ><
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 26 Nov 1994 18:39:08 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3b8gus$7i4@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3b6189$4s2@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca>
smurp@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Shawn Murphy) writes:
>Has anybody had any luck getting the Fujitsu 230 MB MO working with black
>hardware?
>Any experience out there?
I have a Fujitso DynaMo230, and it works pulg and play. Maybe you have a dud
unit?
Later, John
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 27 Nov 1994 03:30:26 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3b8ugi$of3@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3b6189$4s2@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca>
smurp@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Shawn Murphy) writes:
> Has anybody had any luck getting the Fujitsu 230 MB MO working
> with black hardware?
>
> Much twiddling of the DIP switches on the mechanism has done
> nothing but contribute to a large variety of error conditions.
> The chief symptom is that when disks are inserted there is no
> indication that the WorkSpace has noticed the insertion of a
> blank disk.
I had a Fujitsu 128meg MO drive, and I could not get it to work
with black hardware. I couldn't find anyone in the world who
could get it to work with black hardware either, though several
people told me it worked fine on their NS/Intel systems. At the
time, I didn't have a NS/Intel system to try it on.
I suspect the 230meg MO drive has the same characteristics. My
recollection was that the problem was something in the way black
hardware handles SCSI-2 devices (or at least, that's what the
tech-support guys at Fujitsu claimed).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper)
Subject: Recommendations on SCSI Tape Units?
Message-ID: <CzxC9I.1ot@tor.hookup.net>
Sender: root@tor.hookup.net (Operator)
Organization: Damon F. Cooper
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 11:36:54 GMT
Looking for recommendations on SCSI Tape units for an Intel developer
workstation...what are some of the commonly used units out there in
NEXTSTEP land?
I've seen some stuff in the archives for the Viper tape unit...anybody
have info on this thing? Others?
Thanks!
Damon F. Cooper
damonc@damonc.tor.hookup.net
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Turn on HD cache
Date: 27 Nov 1994 17:36:24 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bb1l8$7ns@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi all,
I read the thread about the write through cache being disabled on most
PC Hard Drives, and thats why many of us are getting lame write throughput on
our HD's. Well I got the ASPI-ID dos software to try and enable it, but I
cant find the ASPI device drivers for my DPT controller.
Does anyone have these? If you do, would anyone be willing to NeXTmail
them to me?
Also, Ive looked over the ASPI-ID docs and it seems a bit complicated.
Has anyone done this already? If so, can you please tell me what the command
is to turn on all of the caches?
Any help is appreciated...I'm tired of only getting 300kbs writes!
Later, John
From: root@via-annex4-7.cl.msu.edu (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 28 Nov 1994 04:00:45 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
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References: <3b8ugi$of3@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A. Drosehn writes
&smurp@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Shawn Murphy) writes:
&> Has anybody had any luck getting the Fujitsu 230 MB MO working
&> with black hardware?
&>
&> Much twiddling of the DIP switches on the mechanism has done
&> nothing but contribute to a large variety of error conditions.
&> The chief symptom is that when disks are inserted there is no
&> indication that the WorkSpace has noticed the insertion of a
&> blank disk.
&
&I had a Fujitsu 128meg MO drive, and I could not get it to work
&with black hardware. I couldn't find anyone in the world who
&could get it to work with black hardware either, though several
&people told me it worked fine on their NS/Intel systems. At the
&time, I didn't have a NS/Intel system to try it on.
&
&I suspect the 230meg MO drive has the same characteristics. My
&recollection was that the problem was something in the way black
&hardware handles SCSI-2 devices (or at least, that's what the
&tech-support guys at Fujitsu claimed).
&
I don't have the 128 or 230M Fujitsu units. But I do have a 650M
unit that works fine. I tried to help numerous people with their
128M units with absolutely no success.
At the time I was trying to get Pinnacle to send me a 128M unit
to find out if it could be made to work. They were not interested.
What I learned is that units based on the DYNAMO Fujitsu mechanism
simply would not work on black hardware, something about the
controller mechanism. I was told that there was a couple of guys
working on writing a driver for it, but since black hardware was
dead they lost interest. I think I tried to call fujitsu to get them
to send me a unit. They also were not interested. I've heard of
sucess with the DYNAMO mechanisms on NS/FIP and that's it.
If anyone out there has had sucess with the DYNAMO Fujitsu 128 or
230M units I'd like to hear from em. So as far as I know they simply
do not work.
Randy
From: dhurter@world.std.com (Don Hurter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT printer cables
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 20:19:33 -0800
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Message-ID: <dhurter-2711942019330001@flipper.sirius.com>
References: <3b2laq$p9o@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
In article <3b2laq$p9o@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>, rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
> I have got a NeXT cube and printer but have not got the proper lead that
> should go between them - I have made up a cable as per the pin connections
> in the manual but the printer refuses to print and the computer reckons
> these is nothing connected to the port :-(
>
> So is there anything special about the cable other than the connections ?
I seem to recall hearing that the _length_ is critical for proper
operation. The original cable is 10 feet long; you may want to start
there.
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3rd party color monitor to Slab
Date: 27 Nov 1994 23:39:53 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Message-ID: <9411280436.AA00455@localhost.ohio-state.edu>
Hello, all!
My NeXTStation's color monitor is starting to flake out on me, so I'm
looking to buy a 3rd party monitor to attach to my machine. I read
the FAQ on this subject, and ordered the requisite 13W3 to 4 BNC
connector from Nudata. Got it in the mail the other day.
Now here's my problem. I can figure out that the red, green, and blue
wires are for the R, G, and B signals respectively. But what do I do
with the black wire? I'm guessing it contains the signals that are
used by the sound box, but how in the heck do I connect it? The
connector on the sound box, needless to say, is not BNC. What's up?
Please respond via email, and please respond soon. I want to get this
taken care of over winter break so I won't have to try and mess with
fixing a flaky computer when school starts again in January.
Thanks in advance!
Joe
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 28 Nov 1994 04:42:29 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bbn3l$91c@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3bbkld$rh6@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
root@via-annex4-7.cl.msu.edu (Operator) writes:
> I don't have the 128 or 230M Fujitsu units. But I do have a 650M
> unit that works fine. I tried to help numerous people with their
> 128M units with absolutely no success.
>
> At the time I was trying to get Pinnacle to send me a 128M unit
> to find out if it could be made to work. They were not interested.
>
> What I learned is that units based on the DYNAMO Fujitsu mechanism
> simply would not work on black hardware, something about the
> controller mechanism.
Note that the internals of the "DynaMO" drive from Fujitsu is
exactly the same as the internals of the "Tahoe" drives (or at
least that was true for the 128meg drives). There's a switch
you flip to get the drive to change what it claims to be. I'm
not aware of anyone who has gotten either of these drives to
work on black hardware.
--
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel PLATO / BusLogic BT946C
Date: 28 Nov 1994 09:35:03 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bc887$kp0@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <3b7hs5$j2q@pong.ping.at>
In article <3b7hs5$j2q@pong.ping.at>, wesel@ping.at writes:
>My hardware configuration:
> INTEL P90 BIOS Version 1.00.10.AX1
> BusLogic BT946C BIOS Vers. 4.86 Firmware 4.22
>The loaded Buslogic Driver, which is loaded with a disk, hangs when
>the driver is executing (scanning device components) during installation.
Read the hardware compatibility guide: The BusLogic PCI adapter is not
supported by the Nextstep 3.2 BusLogic driver. It will be supported with
3.3. So you just have to wait a few weeks until 3.3 comes out.
Markus.
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From: wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Turn on HD cache
Date: 28 Nov 1994 09:38:27 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Distribution: world
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References: <3bb1l8$7ns@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <3bb1l8$7ns@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> I read the thread about the write through cache being disabled on most
>PC Hard Drives, and thats why many of us are getting lame write throughput on
>our HD's. Well I got the ASPI-ID dos software to try and enable it, but I
>cant find the ASPI device drivers for my DPT controller.
The DPT manual claims that DPTDDL.SYS is ASPI compliant. However, I failed
badly when trying my low level ASPI tools for sense page access with that
combination. I suggest you take your harddisk, visit a friend with an
Adaptec, turn on your write cache and go back home satisfied :-)
Markus.
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From: wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: IOMega floptical tried out - does on need a device driver?
Date: 28 Nov 1994 10:45:43 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bcccn$54k@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi there!
I asked the hardware newsgroup a few times what it would be like to
connect one of these things to a box running NS.
Now I know: it *nearly* works, i.e. the whole box dies when one tries to
eject a floppy from the drive.
It correctly mounts the disk, and is able to read its contents, although
it it so slow that obviously something is not quite o.k. even at this
stage.
And it mounts a non-write protected disk as write-protected. My guess is
that the system somehow treats removable media as being a kind of CD-ROM,
which might cause the problems (just a wild guess from someone still
rather clueless).
As it seems, one would need something like the floppy device driver cloned
for SCSI.
So, and now my actual question: how much of a bother is it to write
something like that (provided that one has all the tech specs for the
drive)?
Does one need a driver at all?
Or, could one perhaps somehow remap the floppy driver to a SCSI device?
How much bother would it be to write a filesystem for the 21MB flopticals?
Does one have to do this for a SCSI device?
Comments would be greatly appreciated! If I somehow managed to get this to
work, all results would be played onto a FTP server and made public.
ys
Alexander Wilkie
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From: scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Graphic cards differences
Date: 28 Nov 1994 11:12:36 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bcdv4$841@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I'm going to buy a new graphics card, but I don't know the different
features and pro&cons of the cards. These are the cards I'd like to
have a closer look on them because they are mentioned in the
3.2 compatibility guide:
Diamond Stealth 64 (2/4MB VRAM)
#9 GXE 64 Pro (2/4MB VRAM)
Elsa Winner 2000(H) Pro (2/4MB VRAM)
Some questions I'd like to have answered:
- Is there an aequivalent Miro card (32Bit with 1152x980)?
- What are the differences between the Winner 2000 and the Winner 2000H ?
- What are the driver differences ( I heard that support by Elsa is
excellent)?
- Does #9 supply the same tools as for Windows / OS/2?
- Is there driver support for the Matrox MGA Impression Plus?
- Is there driver support for the Hercules Terminator 64?
- Is there a driver for ATI Graphics Pro Turbo?
Thanks for your help and information,
Boerny.
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From: scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which 19"-21" Monitor?
Date: 28 Nov 1994 11:53:02 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bcgau$8d1@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Hello,
I'm going to buy a new monitor. The new one should be nice and _big_ :)
(Bigger than my last 14" Multiscan :) )
Does anybody have experiences with one of the following monitor
manufactures/models?
- IDEK liyma model (without Visual Control)
- Philips Brilliance
- MAG MX (preferred!)
- Sony xxT (Trinitron)
NEC and EIZO seem to expensive to me. What are the differences of other
manufactures to the markt leaders like NEC and EIZO?
Thanks in advance,
Boerny.
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From: ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca
Subject: Re: NS/Intel printing woes
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 18:10:46 GMT
I made a similar post a couple of weeks ago. So far I don't have a complete answer to the serial printing problems so far but here is what I have got.
I havn't tried parallel printing yet, but from past experience I suggest you look at your parallel port with some suspicion. I'd be surprised if your Dell pp was faulty but then Dell has always provided plenty of those (surprises).
On the serial port I can only get reliable operation at 9600 with software handshake. 19200 almost works but there are constant receive serial overrun errors occuring and eventually the serial driver just stops working. I can't get hardware handshake to work at all, perhaps I have the wrong cable. The HP does not pace characters going back to the computer with software handshaking so I suspect that's my problem. The 9600 thing does slow the printer down a bit but I don't really notice bec
ause, if you are used to a black printer, the HP is "slow like sleepy dog" anyway.
I am now trying the MUX driver, but PrintManager doesn't like it, ie believes that there is no serial port, so I have to edit NetInfo by hand. (A detestable job but then I do that on all the other U*IX systems anyway, sigh). No results positive or negative so far.
Finally the best suggestion I have is that you look into an ethernet card for the HP, and look for the appropriate software to drive it. I think there is a commercial package out there as well as a PD "if" filter program available. I on the other hand will continue to pursue the serial route since I've found that even if the transfer of the PS code to the printer occurs in zero time the printer is still "slow like sleepy dog".
I will summarize my findings again *when/if* I arrive at a solution. Folks if you have something further to add please email me.
---
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From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 3rd party color monitor to Slab
Date: 28 Nov 1994 21:53:14 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bdjga$6nn@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <9411280436.AA00455@localhost.ohio-state.edu>
In article <9411280436.AA00455@localhost.ohio-state.edu>
jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss) writes:
> My NeXTStation's color monitor is starting to flake out on me, so I'm
> looking to buy a 3rd party monitor to attach to my machine. I read
> the FAQ on this subject, and ordered the requisite 13W3 to 4 BNC
> connector from Nudata. Got it in the mail the other day.
>
> Now here's my problem. I can figure out that the red, green, and blue
> wires are for the R, G, and B signals respectively. But what do I do
> with the black wire? I'm guessing it contains the signals that are
> used by the sound box, but how in the heck do I connect it? The
> connector on the sound box, needless to say, is not BNC. What's up?
Joe --
I am using a third party BNC multisync monitor with my colorstation and
have two cables. First of all, there is the standard NeXT 13W3 cable
which plugs into the computer, the sound box and has a third plug which
normally would plug into a NeXT monitor. Into this third plug, I connect
my 13W3 to BNC adaptor. My adaptor has no black wire. My adaptor has
13W3 on one end and three coax leads on the other end: R, G and B. I
have set my monitor to sync on green. My guess is that your adaptor has a
separate wire for the sync signal. My multisync monitor (Viewsonic 21")
has an extra BNC sync plug on the back, and the monitor can be set to sync
either on green or on the additinal sync signal. If you monitor also has
this capability, I suggest making your black wire a sync signal and seeing
if it works.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 28 Nov 1994 17:08:58 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bdkdq$dp8@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
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root@via-annex4-7.cl.msu.edu (Operator) writes:
>What I learned is that units based on the DYNAMO Fujitsu mechanism
>simply would not work on black hardware, something about the
>controller mechanism. I was told that there was a couple of guys
In my case, this is absolutely NOT true. I have a fujitsu DynaMO230. And it
works perfectly on my black turbo cube. No problems. Plug and play.
I don't know why others are having such problems... Perhaps its the ADB turbo-
ness of my cube?
Later, John
From: pother@george.cs.cofc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone Using a Magnum FAX Modem 288?
Date: 28 Nov 1994 23:06:09 GMT
Organization: Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia
Message-ID: <3bdnp1$ca0@bigbird.csd.scarolina.edu>
I recently came into possession of a Magnum FAX Modem 288, but when I try
to fax something, my system doesn't seem to know when to hang up and
nothing is printed on the receiving end. On the other hand when something
is faxed to me things "sound okay" (that is, I get the expected chirps,
tweets, and noises at the appropriate times), but when I look at the
document ... garbage!!!
Is anyone using this particular modem, and if so, what did you do to get
it to work? I have a Cube with a 68040 and NS 3.2. Thanks for any
suggestions.
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From: pfg@mail.utexas.edu (Paul F. Grotevant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SIMMs for NeXTs
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 17:57:54 -0600
Organization: University of Texas
Message-ID: <pfg-2811941757540001@terrymac6.mc.utexas.edu>
I need a comprehensive list of simm requirements and configurations for
NeXT hardware (how many pins, what densities are supported, etc.). Is
there an FAQ for this group that might include this information. Please
respond by e-mail.
Paul Grotevant
Texas Union Microcenter
pfg@mail.utexas.edu
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Turn on HD cache
Date: 28 Nov 1994 17:06:03 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bdk8b$dbl@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3bb1l8$7ns@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <3bc8ej$kp0@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes:
>The DPT manual claims that DPTDDL.SYS is ASPI compliant. However, I failed
>badly when trying my low level ASPI tools for sense page access with that
>combination. I suggest you take your harddisk, visit a friend with an
>Adaptec, turn on your write cache and go back home satisfied :-)
Oh brother... Well thanks for that info, anyway :-) There has got to be an
easier way. Anyone know of a NeXT utility that could actually do this? It
would be a great addition to SDFORMAT.
Later, John
From: anjrober@taos.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: looking for a FD
Date: 29 Nov 1994 02:43:37 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Message-ID: <3be4gp$ao@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
I am looking for a SCSI external Floppy drive. I would prefer a 2.88, but if
a 1.44 is noticably cheaper I will have to go for the 1.44. Does anyone have
a recommendation or idea where I could find one. Also does anyone have any
info on Magneto-Opticals (?) that are backward compatable a standard 1.44. Any
recommendations or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
P.S. Please email me any info, I don't have the time to read this newsgroup
everyday
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Turn on HD cache
Date: 29 Nov 1994 00:24:08 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bdsb8$f9v@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3bb1l8$7ns@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <3bb1l8$7ns@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>Hi all,
> I read the thread about the write through cache being disabled on most
>PC Hard Drives, and thats why many of us are getting lame write throughput on
>our HD's. Well I got the ASPI-ID dos software to try and enable it, but I
>cant find the ASPI device drivers for my DPT controller.
>
> Does anyone have these? If you do, would anyone be willing to NeXTmail
>them to me?
Just wait a little bit. Someone is going to be releasing a NEXTSTEP
freeware apppthat will do the cache toggling. It works great, I've beta
tested ed it.
> Any help is appreciated...I'm tired of only getting 300kbs writes!
Jeez! That makes CD-ROM drives look fast ;-).
- darcy
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From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Installing 2nd HD in Cube
Message-ID: <abellD00M1z.FCn@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 06:01:11 GMT
The perennial question, I'm sure. I just got a Seagate ST12400N,
which I want to install internally in my Cube, along with the
original 406MB drive. Before I open things up and really make a
mess, are there any known problems with this? What kind of screws
or mounting brackets do I need (Clerk:"Gee, mister, I never heard
of *that* kind of PC before!")? Termination problems? Heat problems?
Cables? Eventually, I want to put everything on the old drive onto
the new one and use the old one for a swapdisk. Is the internal
mounting feasible, or should I just buy an external case?
I have five days to make this thing work.
Thanks in advance,
Steven T. abell@netcom.com
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From: fukase@cst.nihon-u.ac.jp (FUKASE Mikio)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
In-Reply-To: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 29 Nov 1994 07:08:58 JST
Message-ID: <FUKASE.94Nov29160842@will.sp.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp>
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<3bdkdq$dp8@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 07:08:42 GMT
In article <3bdkdq$dp8@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>
> root@via-annex4-7.cl.msu.edu (Operator) writes:
> >What I learned is that units based on the DYNAMO Fujitsu mechanism
> >simply would not work on black hardware, something about the
> >controller mechanism. I was told that there was a couple of guys
>
> In my case, this is absolutely NOT true. I have a
> fujitsu DynaMO230.
> And it works perfectly on my black turbo cube. No
> problems. Plug and play.
>
> I don't know why others are having such problems...
> Perhaps its the ADB turbo-ness of my cube?
In my case,
I have a Logitec LMO-400(MOD) and use Sony EDM-230(MO) with it.
The boot message is as follows;
FUJITSU M2512A Rev 1312 as sd2 at sc0 target 3 lun 0
Waiting for drive to come ready
...................
My condition:
NeXT Cube 040 (old cube) / NEXTSTEP 3.2J
active terminater for LMO-400
I have no problem for connection. Plug and play easily. ^_^
But..few i-node numbers when it is compared with hard disk. ;_;
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From: arrow@arrow.langen.bull.de (Armin Roth)
Subject: where to repair color slab (.de)
Message-ID: <D013q6.80A@qb.rhein-main.de>
Keywords: repair,spare parts
Sender: usenet@qb.rhein-main.de
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 12:22:53 GMT
Could anybody give me a pointer as which company or private could repair
my color slab which ahs died after an exchange of am memory card. It had
certain problems in printing on a 400dpi Next-Laser before (printing
produced two pages blank and the third got stuck); the power supply does
not seem to be out of order but nevertheless after pressing the power
button the system does not start (not even the slightest move from the
fan).
I have returned the original SIMM-Module. Eprom Revision is 2.2, it has 20
MB of RAM, I have a 425 Quantum drive working in it.
--
Armin Roth
Steinkreuzring 33
64331 Weiterstadt
arrow@arrow.rhein-main.de/arrow@arrow.langen.bull.de
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd HD in Cube
Date: 29 Nov 1994 07:44:53 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3bf7o5$pgp@panix3.panix.com>
References: <abellD00M1z.FCn@netcom.com>
You need a universal 3.5" to 5.25 mounting bracket and a copy of NeXT
Answers #1533. You will need to write a custom etc/disktab for this
drive.
Some Cubes had a double SCSI cable; some Cubes didn't. Call Bell Atlantic
if you want a stock NeXT cable but you should be able to find something
similar.
From: mueller@n1 (Robert Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStep on HP
Date: 29 Nov 1994 15:09:48 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3bfg7s$e1i@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Hello,
because we are thinking of installing NeXTStep on HP:
Does NeXTStep for HP run on every HP workstation, or are there any
restrictions? What is the minimal HP-workstation hardware configuration
for NeXTSTep 3.2 (with Developer tools)?
Any pointers/mails/informations are welcome ...
Thanks in advance ...
Robert
--
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Medizinische Informatik
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik
und Dokumentation (Universitaetskliniken Mainz)
Obere Zahlbacher Str. 69
55131 Mainz
From: bauer@galilei.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Sebastian Bauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Quantum Lightning 730 as internal hard disk in a NeXTstation ???
Date: 29 Nov 1994 18:52:13 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bft8t$rgn@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Keywords: Hard Disk, NeXTstation turbo, Quantum Lightning 730
Hi,
Does anybody have experience with a Quantum Lightning 730 (or something
similar) as internal hard disk of a NeXTstation?
I am about to buy a Quantum Lightning 730 (SCSI) hard disk to replace the
original internal hard disk, that came with my NeXTstation turbo (a SEAGATE
1280 Rev 5822). But I am not quite sure, if it will work in the
NeXTstation, and if it will be really advantageous compared to the original
disk:
- Will it fit into the box mechanically (height, width, ...)?
- Will it fit in electrically (connectors)?
- Will it work with the power supply and the fan of the NeXTstation
(power consumption, heat development)?
- Will it be better (or at least the same good) than/as the original hard
disk (noise, speed)? I suppose, it comes formatted for DOS. So should I
do a low level format, and if, what parameters are best (block size, ...)
I would appreciate any help very much - even if you just answer one of my
questions.
Sebastian
--
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From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: Re: NS/Intel printing woes
Message-ID: <1994Nov29.105808.17837@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
References: <ijeff.94Nov28131046@jasper.maeng>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 10:58:08 GMT
In article <ijeff.94Nov28131046@jasper.maeng> ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca writes:
>... I havn't tried parallel printing yet, but from past experience I suggest
> you look at your parallel port with some suspicion.
You're right, but there is an improved driver for the parallel port on the NeXT
archives which solved my problems. Give it a try.
Andreas
--
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Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757
Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828
Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome ***
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dead CD Player...
Keywords: CD, Toast
Message-ID: <10713@cg-atla.UUCP>
Date: 29 Nov 94 15:42:04 GMT
Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA
My NeXT CD ROM drive seems very dead (never goes
to "ready" status on boot, never mounts disks. With the
cover off, it sounds like the CD is trying to spin up; it
trys this a couple of times, then quits. Is this something
that can be repaired? Anyone have any sources? Or is it
better to find a raw Sony541 mechanism pop it into the case?
mail is appreciated (NeXTMail):
-peter
peter@nextlectic.tiac.net
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From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Plug & Play PCI
Date: 29 Nov 1994 20:49:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
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In article <3b3bp9$all@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, yoda@rescomp.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee) writes:
|> NS 3.3 is supposed to support the Plug and Play spec right?
|>
|> And aren't all (or at least most) PCI cards Plug and Play? Are they?
|>
|> If they are, then shouldn't NS 3.3 support all PCI cards?
No. Plug and Play means that the card's resources are auto-configured (no
more messing with IRQ's, DMA channels, or I/O address ranges) at boot. You
still need a driver to go between the OS/apps and the hardware. Plug and
Play does help the driver in that it eliminates the need to explicitly tell
the driver how the card is configured.
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From: jcis@ix.netcom.com (Jai Choi)
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Subject: JC/NX: Comments by JCIS
Date: 30 Nov 1994 01:54:29 GMT
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is appropriate for anyone to exploit the group for commercial purposes.
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Turn on HD cache
Date: 29 Nov 1994 17:17:50 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
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samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
>Just wait a little bit. Someone is going to be releasing a NEXTSTEP
>freeware apppthat will do the cache toggling. It works great, I've beta
>tested ed it.
Wow, ask and ye shall receive :) Well, since it worked once... Here is my
Holiday wish for all of us NeXTSTEPers...
To have an app that would generate nice (if not optimized) disktabs. A lot of
the problems I see in the hardware group are drive related. Lots of OD's not
working etc... (Ive lived through this a couple of times). I think it would
solve a bunch of people's problems.
I know there used to be an app called formatter.app for black hardware that did
make pseudo-optimized disktabs (but not for ejectable media). Using this app's
disktab made my HD see 40 more megs of space. No big woop, but nice. It would
be nice to have this doable for ejectable media as well.
Oh, btw. since Im in the disk space savin mood here is a freebee for all of ya.
"find / -name '*.tiff' -exec tiffutil -lzw {} -out {} \; -print"
This saved me over 40megs of space. What it does is compress every tiff file
into lzw (lossless) format. I guess if you wanted to you could even use jpeg
compression, but I wouldn't want any loss of icon, etc. fidelity on my system.
While Im at it...It would be nice to have a graphical DRIVE.app that does what
sdformat, formatter (disktab wise), and cache manipulation.
Perhaps I'm dreamn, but ya never know what santa might bring.... ;-)
Later, John
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From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: UPS
Message-ID: <1994Nov29.190656.4056@Radical.Com>
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 19:06:56 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <CzwBxH.39z@eskimo.com> Marc Salvatori
wrote:
> [...] it is more desireable to acquire a UPS that provides an
> output waveform that is sinewave.
Yes. We know from Fourier analysis that any waveform other than a simple sine
must contain higher-order harmonics. With respect to square waves, this is
the worst case, since much of the energy in a square wave is relegated to the
higher-order correction terms of the Fourier expansion. Switch-mode power
supplies can be seriously damaged by such harmonics.
Note: Computer power supplies sample power only near the peak points of each
waveform. Thus, a square wave is fine for the purposes of deriving power.
However, the high frequency harmonics (of a square wave) still come through
the circuit and damage the sensing circuitry. As a result, engineers place
many filtering toroids and metal-oxide varistors on the input side of a
switch-mode power supply: they are very sensitive to surges, spikes, RF noise
and hash, all of which a low-grade UPS can exacerbate.
> : Also, most cheaper units don't sync their output with the 60Hz line,
> I'm not sure how to identify this feature in a brochure.
If the brochure doesn't say it frequency synchronizes its output to the 60Hz
line, then it doesn't. It's a big deal, and if the unit could do it, it would
plainly say so. If not sync'ed, the waveform your UPS is generating is at a
different part of the cycle from the line waveform; when one switches between
the two (either way), an electrical glitch is generated (hi-freq noise) which
is passed on through to your equipment. The oft-quoted `4ms transfer time'
means a quarter wavelength of 0 voltage between line & UPS. A true UPS has no
transfer time; the inverter is always providing synchronized power. Any unit
that has an output transfer time is an IPS, BPS, etc.
>Does "single phase" output correctly address the sync issue?
`Single phase' merely describes the type of power. I don't know of any
consumer computer/peripheral which uses other than single-phase power.
> While I initially was
> impressed with Best units, Liebert's power conditioning units look
> most appealing at this point of my research.
The high-end `Best' units are ferro-resonant. They can store a certain amount
of energy in the EM field generated in their core. In this way, they don't
need to continually load their inverter - the switch-over time is short
enough that no power disruption occurs. You save power as well as wear & tear
on your UPS because the inverter isn't being run full-bore all the time. Of
course, they are very expensive: approx $2000 for a 1000-watt unit. I have no
experience with Liebert systems, but be careful: a `power conditioning unit'
may or may not contain UPS functionality.
One last note: A number of units claim to output `pure sine wave.' In every
case that I have checked (with a reactive load & oscilloscope), the output is
not pure. Some come close, some not so close. Most have stepped sine wave
outputs with smoothing filters; poor units have some capacitance-modified
waveform, sort of a cross between a sine and a square wave (so-called
`modified sine wave').
Buyer beware.
--
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From: thibault@csfac.uwlax.edu (Henry Thibault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: ?Getting NeXT to sync with LAN
Date: 29 Nov 1994 23:30:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Distribution: world
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A colleague who took his Next to Malaysia for his new job has asked me to post
the following, since he is not yet in shape to post here.
*PLEASE REPLY TO HIM AT michael@rumah.pc.my, NOT TO ME, NOT TO THE NEWSGROUP*
============Begin Post================
from Mike Olan (michael@rumah.pc.my):
I am having a problem getting my Nextstation to synchronize with
the local network here so that I can use mail, gopher, usenet, etc.
I have been trying to connect using 'uucico' in debug mode as
illustrated in Appendix G -- NextAdmin. Everything works fine through
the login sequence up to the point where the remote UUCP should send
an initial greeting: imsg looking for SYNC<
Here's where it stops and finally hangs up after timing out.
It was suggested that perhaps the problem could be that bsd on the
Next sets the line to 7-bit but the net here wants it at 8-bit. But
I can't find a way to do this.
Any suggestions, solutions, insights, etc. will be appreciated.
Please send responses directly to: michael@rumah.pc.my
--
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From: "Kharim Hogan" <kharim@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Please Help: Will NSFIP run on this PC?
Message-ID: <1994Nov29.201213.28088@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 20:12:09 -0500
Hi,
I need to buy a PC which will be able to run NSFIP but I'm not sure what
restrictions there still exist on the hardware. Can anyone help me? In
particular I'm wondering about IDE vs. SCSI and also about the graphics
hardware. Here's what I'm thinking of getting:
- 90MHz Intel Pentium processor
- 230W Power Supply
- Full size Tower Case
- 4 72pin Memory sockets
- On-Board High-Speed PCI IDE controller
- 32 Mb RAM
- 2 Gb hard drive (IDE)
- 2.88 MB Floppy Drive
- Double speed IDE CDROM internal
- ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, PCI, 2MB VRAM
- Sony 17" Trinitron Monitor, 1600x1200 @ 60Hz
- Extended keyboard
- Logitech 3-button mouse
Will I have problems with this configuration? Or would you recommend I
make changes? I haven't bought anything yet so I'm open to any and all
suggestions.
Many thanks,
Kharim Hogan
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MOD compatibility
Date: 30 Nov 94 11:51:11 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.786196271@coricopat>
Keywords: MOD
Dear fellow Net.Citizens,
does anybody know what MOD (magneto optical disk) drives are
compatible with black and white NEXTSTEP? The Fujitsu 230 MB
drive has dropped in price here in Europe and looks like an
excellent decision for both backup and data transfer. I had
the chance to test it on black hardware, but only very
briefly. Anybody has experience with this or other (like
e.g. the Pinnacle Micro) drives?
If you mail, I'll summarize. (neuss@igd.fhg.de, in case my
newsreader screws both return address and signature.)
Thanx a lot in advance!
Chris
--
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From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A Speaker Killed my MegaPixel!
Date: 30 Nov 94 12:21:29 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
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hendryj@mcs.com (Jonathan Hendry) writes:
>Mark Tarbell writes
>>If you choose the latter, here's how to do it without damaging your equipment
>>(some parts of your equipment MUST NOT be demagnetized):
>>
[munch]
>Don't forget to inscribe a pentagram around the monitor, lest the tiny demons
>what live inside escape and possess your noggin.
>Also, during the procedure, you must intone the magic word "cheeba"
>continuously.
Jonathan! You're talking bull!!! Intoning "Cheeba" is absolutely
unnecessary. The Pantagram is a good idea though.
Chris
>--
>Jonathan W. Hendry hendryj@mcs.com
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From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,su.computers.next
Subject: double-headed NS/Windows on a partitioned Dell
Date: 29 Nov 1994 23:25:31 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
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Can anyone advise us on installing NS 3.2/Intel on a PC
with a 1 GB hard disk
which is partitioned for Windows and for NS? The owner
wants to boot alternatively in Windows or NS.
This is the configuration:
Dell Omniplex 466. This is a 486/66.
The bus is EISA.
It also has PCI slots.
32 MB RAM
1 GB SCSI hard drive
HP DAT backup drive
3 1/2" floppy drive
Toshiba 3401 internal SCSI CD-ROM drive
#9 GXE Lite Video board (2 MB video RAM)
4 MB cache memory on DPT controller card (DPT 2012, I think)
There is also a NCR 810 SCSI interface chip off the main board
Etherlink III EISA network board (3c579, I think)
Mediavision Pro Audio Spectrum sound board (16)
NEC Multisync 6FGp 21" monitor
NextStep 3.2 (full package)
The SCSI drive has a 512 MB DOS partition and a 512 MB NS
partition. The latter doesn't boot. The former works fine.
From the guy who tried installing NS:
"You probably want to mention that the NumberNine card is an EISA card
[We] can boot single user and replace the
netinfo database if it hangs during init.
There is also a problem with 3com's card - it apparently needs to run
the configure program before NextStep can initialize it. DOS does
weird things to it, I guess."
Please email directly to xinwei@otter.
Thanks,
Xin Wei
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From: roffel@biw.cube.de (Lee Roffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with Cube 040-25 /w more than 32MB RAM
Date: 30 Nov 1994 13:23:39 GMT
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Message-ID: <3bhucr$4ha@next01.biw.cube.de>
References: <3b00d6$eib@crcnis3.unl.edu>
In article <3b00d6$eib@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
writes:
>
> We have several Cubes and Stations running with 28MB with the same
> memory configuration as you with no problems. Is the parity on all
> the memory the same? Maybe you have a bad chip or two? Just some
> suggestions...
>
> --
> | Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
> | rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
All the chips are non-parity chips, parity checking is disabled on
startup, the 'm' command returns a display of the memory config that is
(appears) correct... as in 16meg page-mode simms in the first bank, and
4meg page-mode simms in the rest of the banks... or whatever config I
happen to be testing out again... and again...
I am trying a complete new set of memory chips from a 'known' good
computer, and I'll see what happens tonite.
ciao...
.. Lee
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From: barry@nacm.com (Barry Lustig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Memory Problem with the Intel Premiere II/PCI 90Mhz Pentium
Date: 30 Nov 1994 06:44:30 -0800
Organization: Nicholas-Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3bi34e$m9@portmgr1.nacm.com>
We have 3.2 up and running on 3 Intel Premiere II/PCI machines
(1.00.04.BB0 & 1.00.05.BB0 BIOS's). Each machine has an ELSA
WINNER2000-4MB PCI graphics board running ELSA's latest driver, a
Cogent eMASTER+ EM960 PCI ethernet board, and 136MB memory (8MB
soldered on the motherboard and 128MB in 4 32MB SIMMS). The system's
problem is that NeXTSTEP is only able to see 64MB of the memory. The
POST routines recognize all of the memory, but the NeXT bootstrap,
both 3.2 and the 3.3PR2 bootstraps, recognize only 64. When the mach
kernel is booted it also only recognizes 64MB. Has anyone seen this
type of behaviour before?
Barry Lustig
Nicholas-Applegate Capital Management
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: phil@float.vis.com (Phil Romine)
Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.2 on Gateway 2000 P4D-66 ?
Message-ID: <PHIL.94Nov30074747@float.vis.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: usenet@all.vis.com
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 12:47:47 GMT
Has anyone successfully installed NS 3.2 on such a system? I
consistently get the following kernel trap during installation from
CD-ROM, after setting up partitions, when the '.'s are displaying
progress installing files:
> /private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 10245 at offset 0: mangled entry
[this line repeats 4 more times]
> mode = 04353, inum 122994, fs = /private/tmp/mnta
> panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc
> panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT; root(rcbuilder):
> mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
>
> Kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
[...]
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Vicorp Interactive Systems, 399 Boylston St, Boston, MA 02116, USA
From: dsanders@hookup.net (Doug Sanders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DEC 1152 laser printer
Date: 30 Nov 1994 18:37:43 GMT
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <3bigpn$oph@relay.tor.hookup.net>
Hi all,
Does anybody use one of these? If so, how do you like it and does
the 1150 PPD file work with it or is there one in one of the archives for
the 1152?
Thanks in advance to all replies.
Doug
dsanders@hookup.net
NeXTmail OK.
From: jjfox@anshar.shadow.net (Jay Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Please Help: Will NSFIP run on this PC?
Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 30 Nov 1994 13:40:35 -0500
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <3bigv3$oea@anshar.shadow.net>
References: <1994Nov29.201213.28088@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Kharim Hogan (kharim@cs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: - On-Board High-Speed PCI IDE controller
: - 2 Gb hard drive (IDE)
: - Double speed IDE CDROM internal
: - ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, PCI, 2MB VRAM
Problem. NeXTSTEP does NOT support Enhanced IDE. You cannot use IDE drives
over 500MB, and you cannot use IDE CD-ROM drives. Stick with SCSI. As for
the ATI card, you'll be much happier with the WinTurbo or Pro Turbo cards
based on the newer mach64 chipset. They are *much* faster than the Ultra Pro.
- Jay
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where can I get i*Link's i56 DSP card for intel?
Date: 30 Nov 1994 15:14:36 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3bipvs$3g7@cobber.cord.edu>
I posted this to comp.sys.next.marketplace a while back and got no response.
I know Alembic used to be the distributor for this card. Where can I get
this card now?
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| Jonathan A. Doroin | Research: NeXT OS(es) |
| doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Amoeba, FreeBSD |
| doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXTSTEP on DELL and NEC
Date: 30 Nov 1994 17:49:13 -0800
Organization: Cal Poly, State University
Message-ID: <3bja2p$dbc@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: mrothste
I trying to find out if anyone has any experience with DELL or NEC running
NEXTSTEP on any machines other than those specifically listed on the HCG.
I need to lease 2 or 3 NEXTSTEP machines in the next couple of weeks that
have the following configuration:
Pentium 90
32 MB RAM
1 G HD
64 bit PCI
SCSI
17" screen
CD-ROM
sound card
ethernet car (bnc)
video with hopefully several settings under NEXTSTEP
I'd like to spend $4000 - $4500. Of course less would be good but more
would be hard,
One of the main restrictions is that I won't know for sure if I am going
to purchase for sure for a week or so (based on getting a contract) and
if I do I'm going to need to take delivery in a couple of days.
Any help would be appreciated.
-Mont
Dover Pacific Computing Inc.
(NeXTMail OK:)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (pete french)
Subject: Re: Using a Terminal with NS/Fip?
Message-ID: <1994Nov30.175354.8331@leeds.ac.uk>
Sender: news@leeds.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:53:54 +0000 (GMT)
References: <1994Nov26.070916.24375@midway.uchicago.edu>
ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz) writes:
> Is it possible to hook up a terminal to a NS/Fip machine by simply plugging
> it into the serial port and changing the standard software setups?
> I've been thinking in investing in a cheap VT100 compatible terminal, and
> want to know if I will be able to use it when I buy NS/Fip. (I currently use
> Linux...)
it works fine - I use this all the time.
-bat.
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Recordable CD-ROM's?
Date: 30 Nov 1994 14:41:10 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bi2u6$bkk@fermat.mayo.edu>
Has anyone attached one of the many recordable CD-ROM players/writers to a
box running NS? Does the system properly deal with it? If so, what are
the format options for writing data? I would prefer not to have to hang
it off a Mac.
Thanks
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
From: jreid@vt.edu (Joe Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT keyboard pinouts
Date: 30 Nov 1994 22:57:20 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <3bj00g$8eh@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: jreid
I have a client interested in attaching an Apple Adjustable keyboard
to his NeXT (doctors orders). I've been told that some people have
canabilized some trackballs to put onto the NeXT, can you tell me
more?
--
Joe Reid, KE4FPN jreid@zoo.bevc.blacksburg.va.us
Bike: '95 Honda VF750CD -- DoD#:1356
Wardrobe Impaired Professional Malcontent
URL:http://zoo.bevc.blacksburg.va.us/~jreid
From: ingle@fission.nuc.berkeley.edu (Mike Ingle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT motherboard
Date: 1 Dec 1994 00:09:56 GMT
Organization: Nuclear Engineering Dept
Sender: ingle@fusion (Mike Ingle)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bj48k$20n@agate.berkeley.edu>
I picked up 4 NeXT mothgerboards. They look brand new, and were free. They
have the nuber 857.00.AE and a release 1.1 rom. These are 25Mhz 030 boards.
There are two IDH connectors one is clearly for the SCSI drive, and the other is
for the optical disk I think. I got a 256M optical drive at the same time,
although I do not know if it works.
Questions:
1) How to connect a monitor and keyboard.
2) How to connect a floppy.
3) How to load software.
I would be willing to trade some of the boards for NeXT specific hardware ie
the keybords and floppy. I would much appreciate any help. If I can't get a
working system going, then I would be happy to give the boards as spares.
Mike Ingle
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ISDN and NEXTSTEP/Intel
Date: 30 Nov 1994 21:18:48 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3bjir8$57s@xmission.xmission.com>
My area is due to get ISDN service in the early spring. I'd like to use my
NEXTSTEP/Intel box to connect to my Internet service provider using ISDN,
but I haven't heard of a NEXTSTEP/Intel-compatible ISDN adaptor. Does one
yet exist?
I know that a new or upcoming ZyXEL V.34 modem will be upgradeable to ISDN,
but I'm neither sure if it'll work with NEXTSTEP/Intel, nor am I sure if it
can deal with primary-rate bandwidth.
................................kris
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: cossnx!prog (Programmer)
Subject: I need Informations about card-readers
Message-ID: <1994Nov30.192321.5798@cossnx.cube.de>
Sender: prog@cossnx.cube.de
Organization: COSS Systemtechnik GmbH
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 19:23:21 GMT
Hi all!
I m interest on all informations about any card-readers which work on
NS - Machines (NeXT, Intel or HP PA) and additional for this implemented
objects.
which of you has any tips and address where i can purchase from.
Mainly readers for chip-cards and cards with a magnetic stripe.
* Jörgen Gnoss
* COSS Systemtechnik GmbH Wilhelmstrasse 99
* 73433 Aalen Germany
* phone : ++49 7361 - 979922
* fax : ++49 7361 - 979932
* e-mail : prog@cossnx.cube.de (NeXT-mail welcome)
From: barroux@licancabur.ebay.sun.com (Juan Carlos Barroux R. - SunService)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Models... ???
Date: 1 Dec 1994 08:53:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bk2tp$613@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
I would like to know how to decode the output of the hostinfo command
in a way that I can deduce the marketing model name of the system.
For example the output:
Processor type: MC680x0 (68040)
Processor speed: 25 MHz
Should allow me to decide that this is a NeXTstation 40/25...
I do not even known what is the difference between a NeXTstation and
a NeXTcube.
I think that what I am asking for is for a list of the models of
black boxes and how to differentiate them.
Thanks in advance.
Greetings,
j.c.
From: barroux@licancabur.ebay.sun.com (Juan Carlos Barroux R. - SunService)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: hostinfo output in non-black HW ?
Date: 1 Dec 1994 09:11:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bk409$613@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
References: <3bk2tp$613@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
Could some kind soul send me the output of the hostinfo command when
it is run on a non-black hardware (PC and/or HP-PA systems)?
Thanks in advance.
Greetings,
j.c.
P.D.: 1) Spare time bears curiosity.
2) Curiosity is the mother of all vices...
3) I post questions on the net...
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: hostinfo output in non-black HW ?
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 08:22:28 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4irQsIK00iV2I12H0t@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3bk409$613@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 1-Dec-94 hostinfo output
in non-blac.. by Juan R. - SunService@lic
> Could some kind soul send me the output of the hostinfo command when
> it is run on a non-black hardware (PC and/or HP-PA systems)?
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.2: Tue Jul 12 18:26:52 PDT 1994;
root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-150.0.0.55.obj~2/RELEASE_HPPA
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: HPPA (7100)
Processor active: 0
Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 41 tasks, 66 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 1.00, Mach factor: 0.00
Also, you should consult Digital Librarian on NXGetLocalArchInfo(), or
look at /usr/include/mach-o/arch.h.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.2 on Gateway 2000 P4D-66 ?
Date: 1 Dec 1994 06:07:07 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bjp6b$1q6@rosie.next.com>
References: <PHIL.94Nov30074747@float.vis.com>
In article <PHIL.94Nov30074747@float.vis.com> phil@float.vis.com (Phil Romine)
writes:
| Has anyone successfully installed NS 3.2 on such a system? I
| consistently get the following kernel trap during installation from
| CD-ROM, after setting up partitions, when the '.'s are displaying
| progress installing files:
|
| > /private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 10245 at offset 0: mangled entry
| [this line repeats 4 more times]
| > mode = 04353, inum 122994, fs = /private/tmp/mnta
| > panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc
| > panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT; root(rcbuilder):
| > mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
| >
| > Kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
| [...]
|
You need to provide more information on your system and list *all* console output
before people can help you. If you are installing 3.2 on an IDE disk then there
are two problems to be aware of:
1. You can not use an IDE disk that is larger that 504 MB (1 MB = 2 ^ 20 bytes).
There is no workaround.
2. If your IDE disk uses an Adaptec8265 controller you should get IDE8265 driver
from NextAnswers.
-Rakesh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu SCSI Drive [black hardware]
Message-ID: <1994Nov26.221232.22849@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <3amt0b$dkn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 22:12:32 GMT
rvose@sparc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Randy Vose) writes:
>Can anyone out there tell me if it's possible to use a 1GB Fujistu 2694
>with a Nextstation color (non-turbo) without any great pains? A friend of
>mine has a couple for sale pretty cheap and I don't want to buy the drive
>if it's not going to work or if I'm going to have to spend a month
>figuring out how to make it go...
>Please email replies....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you ask someone to help you, you SHOULD make the
effort to search the newsgroups for the reply. I
always HATE this line in mails.
But on your subject. I just did this: a 2694 ESA in a non-turbo station.
No problem at all. Only change to asynchronous mode.
Willem
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From: schulz@biw.cube.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: ISDN
Date: 01 Dec 94 10:42:17
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <schulz.94Dec1104217@gecko03>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Hi
we have got the follwoing problem:
Is there a way to connect an ISDN card to a NeXT PC?
Is there a way to connect an ISDN modem to the serial port of a NeXT PC?
Is there a way to connect an ISDN card or modem with a notebook?
(PCMCIA, serial port......)
Any experiences?
Thanks
---
Kay Schulz
schulz@biw.cube.de
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ganzes Geld! ---
From: TAPPD@sam.neosoft.com (Dan Tapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel NextStep <--> Logitech Trackball
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 11:12:59
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969
Message-ID: <TAPPD.62.000B37C7@sam.neosoft.com>
Someone at our site desperately wants to employ the above combination. Next
says it can be done by writing a loadable device driver.
I was hoping someone might already know of such a beast roosting on an FTP
site...
- Dan
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <3bipvs$3g7@cobber.cord.edu>
Control: cancel <3bipvs$3g7@cobber.cord.edu>
Date: 1 Dec 1994 06:06:51 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3bke8r$hlt@cobber.cord.edu>
<3bipvs$3g7@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn.
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| Jonathan A. Doroin | Research: NeXT OS(es) |
| doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Amoeba, FreeBSD |
| doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Plug & Play PCI
Date: 1 Dec 1994 20:40:24 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3blcbo$8gr@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3bg44rINNiep@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
Patrick Chase (patrick@sdd.hp.com) wrote:
: In article <3b3bp9$all@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, yoda@rescomp.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee) writes:
: |> NS 3.3 is supposed to support the Plug and Play spec right?
: |>
: |> And aren't all (or at least most) PCI cards Plug and Play? Are they?
: |>
: |> If they are, then shouldn't NS 3.3 support all PCI cards?
: No. Plug and Play means that the card's resources are auto-configured (no
: more messing with IRQ's, DMA channels, or I/O address ranges) at boot. You
: still need a driver to go between the OS/apps and the hardware. Plug and
: Play does help the driver in that it eliminates the need to explicitly tell
: the driver how the card is configured.
Does plug-and-play allow the OS to poll unknown cards and find out what
they are and set them up right?
: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard...
: H-P San Diego
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black NeXT compatible CD-ROMs
Date: 1 Dec 1994 18:32:45 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3bl4sd$154u@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Does anyone have a list of CD-ROM drives that will work on a
slab/PC/Mac? I need something that will work on all three platforms.
There's the list in the NeXT FAQs, back from March 94, but I'm
wondering if the double/quad speed drives will work with a slab
as well.
Thanks
Eugene
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Grad Student/Sys Admin "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Message-ID: <1994Nov30.185207.20974@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <3b6189$4s2@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 18:52:07 GMT
smurp@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Shawn Murphy) writes:
>Has anybody had any luck getting the Fujitsu 230 MB MO working with black
>hardware?
>Much twiddling of the DIP switches on the mechanism has done
>nothing but contribute to a large variety of error conditions. The chief
>symptom is that when disks are inserted there is no indication that the
>WorkSpace has noticed the insertion of a blank disk.
Hi,
Yes, I bought one too. My only problem was that the first unit
I received was a defective one. But the replacement works perfectly.
DIP switch = 1 2 3 4 5 6
ON OFF ON OFF ON OFF
I'm using the unit with a NeXTstation non-turbo running NS 3.0.
Success, Willem
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From: mjulku@linux.ratol.fi (Mikko Julku)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Graphic cards differences
Date: 2 Dec 1994 00:00:04 GMT
Organization: Raahe institute of computer engineering
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3blo24$3vt@idefix.eunet.fi>
References: <3bcdv4$841@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz (scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE) wrote:
: Hello,
: I'm going to buy a new graphics card, but I don't know the different
: features and pro&cons of the cards. These are the cards I'd like to
: have a closer look on them because they are mentioned in the
: 3.2 compatibility guide:
: Diamond Stealth 64 (2/4MB VRAM)
The trade in offer is still valid, $259 / 2MB, $379 / 4MB PCI or VLB.
All trade in cards are treated equally, so get an OLD, cheap card and trade it.
The offer is valid in USA only , but...
Phone: 408-736-2000 ext 702 in USA
Diamond has got better results in Windows tests than #9, but it does not mean
there is same situation with NSFIP.
As you know, many video cards have a feature connector at opposite end of
a PCI or VLB connector.
I think the #9 has newer connector (VESA) to add extra/better features,
such as hardware MPG decompression card (still not available ??).
: #9 GXE 64 Pro (2/4MB VRAM)
: Elsa Winner 2000(H) Pro (2/4MB VRAM)
At least there are drivers for Diamond and #9, supported by NeXT,
I do not know about Elsa.
: Some questions I'd like to have answered:
: - Is there an aequivalent Miro card (32Bit with 1152x980)?
Yes, Miro Crystal 20SV and 40SV, 2 and 4 meg vram cards with 964.
: - What are the differences between the Winner 2000 and the Winner 2000H ?
: - What are the driver differences ( I heard that support by Elsa is
: excellent)?
: - Does #9 supply the same tools as for Windows / OS/2?
: - Is there driver support for the Matrox MGA Impression Plus?
As I have understood, there will be no support for Matrox cards, because
they do not support linear address space.
: - Is there driver support for the Hercules Terminator 64?
: - Is there a driver for ATI Graphics Pro Turbo?
: Thanks for your help and information,
: Boerny.
As I can see, you are from Germany. Take a look to the C'T 12/94, p. 172-184.
Ps. Our class went to see how assembling line of printed circuit boards works
today, and I saw when Nokia 447X monitor was assembled.
Going to get to save my money to buy one !!
: --
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
: Bernhard (Boerny) Scholz 'Frueher hab ich nur Mist gebaut,
: scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de aber dank meines Rechners kann ich
: Member of Munich Amiga Developers (MAD) das heute noch viel effektiver!'
My english is not so fluent, so please forgive my mistakes.
I am not affiliated with any of above companies (yet :-), I am still a
student...
Mikko Julku at Raahe institute of computer engineering
mjulku@ratol.fi
mjulku@cc.joensuu.fi
mjulku@tolsun.oulu.fi
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 2 Dec 1994 03:12:42 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3bm3ba$3jb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <3b6189$4s2@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> <1994Nov30.185207.20974@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
In article <1994Nov30.185207.20974@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>,
Willem van Schaik <schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> wrote:
>smurp@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Shawn Murphy) writes:
>
>>Has anybody had any luck getting the Fujitsu 230 MB MO working with black
>>hardware?
>
>>Much twiddling of the DIP switches on the mechanism has done
>>nothing but contribute to a large variety of error conditions. The chief
>>symptom is that when disks are inserted there is no indication that the
>>WorkSpace has noticed the insertion of a blank disk.
>
>Hi,
>
>Yes, I bought one too. My only problem was that the first unit
>I received was a defective one. But the replacement works perfectly.
>
>DIP switch = 1 2 3 4 5 6
> ON OFF ON OFF ON OFF
>
>I'm using the unit with a NeXTstation non-turbo running NS 3.0.
>
>Success, Willem
>
Does it matter if the MO is MAC version or PC version??
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From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Graphic cards differences
Date: 2 Dec 1994 01:50:45 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <3bluhl$k75@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <3bcdv4$841@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <3blo24$3vt@idefix.eunet.fi>
mjulku@linux.ratol.fi (Mikko Julku) writes:
>Bernhard Scholz (scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE) wrote:
>
>: #9 GXE 64 Pro (2/4MB VRAM)
>: Elsa Winner 2000(H) Pro (2/4MB VRAM)
>At least there are drivers for Diamond and #9, supported by NeXT,
>I do not know about Elsa.
ELSA faxed us some info in response to our query; they support NS
at several resolutions, including a monster card with 8MB of VRAM
(32bit @ 1600x1200!) I counted 20 icons in the dock in a screenshot
on one of the sheets...
--
Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NEXTSTEP-based multimedia studio
(217) 355-6322 * (217) 355-5032 (fax) serving anthropologists and others
indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * 41 E. University Ave., Suite 201 * Champaign, IL 61820
"Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like the play?" -- anonymous
From: daynem@aol.com (DayneM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/I 3.x and the Alps Glidepoint?
Date: 1 Dec 1994 22:45:11 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3bm587$7bp@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Anyone know if the Alps GlidePoint will work with NEXTSTEP? I quote from
their add in Byte: "Just plug it into any notebook or desktop PC with a
standard mouse driver. No special setup procedures required. It *also* [my
emphasis] comes with driver software, which you can use to customize your
Alps GlidePoint."
Sounds like the *basic* functionality should work with anything that
supports regular Microsoft/Logitech mice; NS users would only have to give
up the custom capabilities.
Is that true?
Dayne Miller
daynem@aol.com
From: jgg@tangent.ultranet.com (Jack Gregory)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: need the magic to get rid of Next dual-boot
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 23:56:39
Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <jgg.7.0017F26D@tangent.ultranet.com>
What is the magic incantation to get rid of the boot thing that NSFIP puts on
a hard disk? I have an Intel GX that had a DOS and NeXT side. It has been
repartitioned using FDISK (back to one big one) and re-formatted using FORMAT
C: /U /S. But at boot time, it still goes through its NeXTSTEP or DOS query.
After you solve that problem, maybe you can tell me why Windows Control Panel
won't let me create a permanent swap file. Something about "the partioning
scheme used" when there is now only 1 partition! (Permanent swap files are
required for Win32s programs.)
Thanks in advance,
--Jack Gregory
LoftTech Incorporated
From: s580096@idy18.tfh-berlin.de (Olaf Maetzner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: switch off MegaPixel ?
Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:03:38 GMT
Organization: TFH-Berlin (Berlin, Germany)
Message-ID: <3bmuua$i14@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>
Is there any possibility of really switching off the MegaPixel-display
while keeping the NeXTstation working ?
(Not a black screensaver)
--
Ole
(Olaf Maetzner s580096@mx304.tfh-berlin.de +49 30 8926435)
From: dhurter@world.std.com (Don Hurter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black NeXT compatible CD-ROMs
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 1994 23:32:12 -0800
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Message-ID: <dhurter-0112942332120001@flipper.sirius.com>
References: <3bl4sd$154u@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <3bl4sd$154u@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) wrote:
> Does anyone have a list of CD-ROM drives that will work on a
> slab/PC/Mac? I need something that will work on all three platforms.
> There's the list in the NeXT FAQs, back from March 94, but I'm
> wondering if the double/quad speed drives will work with a slab
> as well.
I don't have a list to offer, but I can solidly recommend the Apple CD-300
double-speed. Works with just about everything, including Slabs, most
PC's, and of course Macs. Sound and Photo-CD also works for NeXT, and if
you ever want to mount it internally in a PC (running NS of course :-) in
the future it fits fine. I'm guessing around $200 these days, but I don't
have any prices here to check against.
Oh, just remembered - I'm referring to the older Sony units that used a
caddy. Anyone know about the newer drawer-style Matshita units and
NeXTSTEP? Sorry if my recommendation for an outdated model turns out to be
misleading. (Aw hell, just get a used Sony CD-300.)
From: joerg@nextstation.ite.rwth-aachen.de (Joerg Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Conner CFP1060S on BLack HW?
Date: 2 Dec 1994 12:25:03 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
Message-ID: <3bn3mv$71r@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi experts!
Does anybody know something about this drive working in a NeXTstation
Mono? I am looking for an 1GB drive to put into my station, mono, non
turbo.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Joerg
From: dhurter@world.std.com (Don Hurter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd HD in Cube
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 1994 23:50:26 -0800
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Message-ID: <dhurter-0112942350260001@flipper.sirius.com>
References: <abellD00M1z.FCn@netcom.com>
In article <abellD00M1z.FCn@netcom.com>, abell@netcom.com (Steven T.
Abell) wrote:
> The perennial question, I'm sure. I just got a Seagate ST12400N,
> which I want to install internally in my Cube, along with the
> original 406MB drive. Before I open things up and really make a
> mess, are there any known problems with this? What kind of screws
> or mounting brackets do I need (Clerk:"Gee, mister, I never heard
> of *that* kind of PC before!")? Termination problems? Heat problems?
> Cables? Eventually, I want to put everything on the old drive onto
> the new one and use the old one for a swapdisk. Is the internal
> mounting feasible, or should I just buy an external case?
The mounting box inside the cube is a 'PC standard' width for 5-1/4
drives. Simply get the 5-1/4 to 3-1/2 adapter brackets and bolt 'er in. I
wouldn't worry too much about heat considering the Cube was originally
designed to hold two full-height, 5-1/4 drives, which can be beasts to
cool.
For a power cable, get a Y adapter that takes the standard 4-pin plug and
makes it into two plugs (cost ~ $3 at Fry's.)
For SCSI, its a bit trickier. I would think you could also create a Y
cable that ties together two connectors on a short ribbon with a female
socket clamped on the middle. But there again, I haven't tried this, and
haven't looked into the SCSI specs to see if it might be a problem.
What I did, which requires some careful work with a pair of pliers and
precise measurements, is clamp a standard 50-pin SCSI connector onto the
middle of my existing NeXT ribbon cable. I used a flat strip of metal (a
cover from a PC expansion slot) to protect the plastic SCSI connector from
the plier's teeth. I currently have three drives inside my floppy-based
Cube.
Make sure you don't slip with the SCSI connector when clamping, or it's
off to Bell Atlantic for a $650 replacement ;-> Also, keep track of the
polarity tab of the connector. There are proper tools for these
connectors, or alternately, a bench vice with jaw protectors would be a
better bet than hand-held pliers if you have one.
Only terminate one drive out of the bunch, and keep SCSI ID zero free for
easy booting from an external in an emergency. Good luck.
- Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gery@ares.fdn.org (gery Divry)
Subject: Flopticals
Message-ID: <1994Dec2.092819.25818@ares.domain.name>
Sender: gery@ares.domain.name
Organization: ARES - Lyon, France.
Distribution: world , france
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 09:28:19 GMT
Hello
Does anybody use a scsci floptical on NS ??
does it work ???
Sincerely
Gery DIVRY ( ZZVolume Daddy )
ARES Publisher
8, rue Victor Lagrange Phone: (+33) 72 80 16 30
69007 LYON Fax: (+33) 72 80 16 32
France Email: gery@ares.fdn.org
Earth, Solar System, Galaxy MW1 NeXT Mail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon)
Subject: Connectivity
Message-ID: <D05MKn.GEM@oodis01.hill.af.mil>
Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;)
Organization: Hill AFB
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 23:00:22 GMT
This may have been asked and answered before but I think the question is
unique enough(?) to post. I would like to be able to either or both of
two things:
1) set up my work machine (Intel running NS3.2) as a SLIP server(?), call
it from my home computer (also an Intel/NS3.2 machine) using a modem, and
be able to use OmniWeb to access data on the Web
2) call up my work machine from home, connect and get a login prompt on my
machine at home but in reality actually logging in to my work machine. I
vaguely remember this capability on earlier NeXT's but am not sure if it
still exists. I would like to know if this can still be done with Intel
machines running NS3.2
Any help on either or both of the above would be appreciated. Reply by
email to the address below. Thanks in advance.
Keith Salmon
salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: need the magic to get rid of Next dual-boot
Date: 2 Dec 1994 13:24:25 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <3bn769$9il@godot.cc.duq.edu>
References: <jgg.7.0017F26D@tangent.ultranet.com>
To remove the program in the boot sector of the hard disk, boot the machine
under DOS and run fdisk from the command line like this:
FDISK /MBR
That should be it.
--Jason Brown
brown@next.duq.edu
Jack Gregory (jgg@tangent.ultranet.com) wrote:
: What is the magic incantation to get rid of the boot thing that NSFIP puts on
: a hard disk? I have an Intel GX that had a DOS and NeXT side. It has been
: repartitioned using FDISK (back to one big one) and re-formatted using FORMAT
: C: /U /S. But at boot time, it still goes through its NeXTSTEP or DOS query.
: After you solve that problem, maybe you can tell me why Windows Control Panel
: won't let me create a permanent swap file. Something about "the partioning
: scheme used" when there is now only 1 partition! (Permanent swap files are
: required for Win32s programs.)
: Thanks in advance,
: --Jack Gregory
: LoftTech Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: phil@float.vis.com (Phil Romine)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.2 on Gateway 2000 P4D-66 ?
In-Reply-To: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM's message of 1 Dec 1994 06:07:07 GMT
Message-ID: <PHIL.94Dec2081549@float.vis.com>
Sender: usenet@all.vis.com
References: <PHIL.94Nov30074747@float.vis.com> <3bjp6b$1q6@rosie.next.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 13:15:49 GMT
>>>>> "Rakesh" == Rakesh Dubey <Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM> writes:
In article <3bjp6b$1q6@rosie.next.com> Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM writes:
[my problem statement and Rakesh's request for complete info when
requesting help deleted]
Rakesh> If you are installing 3.2 on an IDE disk then there are two
Rakesh> problems to be aware of
Rakesh> 1. You can not use an IDE disk that is larger that 504 MB
Rakesh> (1 MB = 2 ^ 20 bytes). There is no workaround.
Rakesh> 2. If your IDE disk uses an Adaptec8265 controller you should
Rakesh> get IDE8265 driver from NextAnswers.
Rakesh> -Rakesh
Rakesh, The info about NS 3.2 not supporting IDE drives larger than
504MB helped as my GW2000 P4D-66 has a 540MB IDE drive.
I was able, however, to get NS 3.2 working on this system by
configuring the drive to have less than 1024 cylinders (and thus
making it appear to be less than 504MB). So, as long as one doesn't
mind ignoring disk space on cylinders 1024 and up, one can work-around
this problem. Thought this info might be useful to others on
comp.sys.next.hardware who hadn't seen it before.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Vicorp Interactive Systems, 399 Boylston St, Boston, MA 02116, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: koo@n5.math.umn.edu (Yonghoi Koo)
Subject: simm
Message-ID: <D06uJt.KIG@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 14:51:20 GMT
can anyone tell me what kind of simm is OK for my
turbo machine?
( Is any 72 pinn, 70 ns simm OK?)
Thanks in advance.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Yonghoi koo School of mathematics
<koo@math.umn.edu> Univ. of Minnesota, MPLS, MN 55414
From: mghassem@catwoman.ee.ryerson.ca (MAHMOOD GHASSEMI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: QUANTUM Telephone No. ?
Date: 2 Dec 1994 14:10:18 GMT
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnic University
Message-ID: <3bn9sa$1kef@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca>
n 1.2 PL2]
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: INSTALL FAILED ON HP 715 help...
Date: 2 Dec 1994 15:27:15 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <3bnecj$33ep@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Keywords: NeXTSTEP hppa install disk
i have an hp 715/75 that had hpux installed on the single
1gb internal disk (seagate ST11200). NeXTSTEP arrived as
did an internal seagate ST12400N (2gb). so i went to install.
through in the 2gb disk, made sure it was recognized in the system.
followed the NeXTSTEP-hppa installation for the 715/75. said
yes to initialize the disk and i get this:
Initializing hard disk
disk name: Seagate ST12400N
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
writing disk label
boot block extends beyone from porch.
INSTALLATION FAILED-COULD NOT INITIALIZE DISK
i could not find anything in next answers. can someone help me
out here?
the disk did initialize using hpux.
thanks for any help
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC 1152 laser printer
Date: 3 Dec 1994 00:56:18 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <3bofni$c6r@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <3bigpn$oph@relay.tor.hookup.net>
In article <3bigpn$oph@relay.tor.hookup.net>,
Doug Sanders <dsanders@hookup.net> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
> Does anybody use one of these? If so, how do you like it and does
>the 1150 PPD file work with it or is there one in one of the archives for
>the 1152?
>
>Thanks in advance to all replies.
>
Check ftp.adobe.com. They have something called dc1152.ppd that is
probably the one you want. I don't have the 1152, so I cannot comment on
it.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: garnett@cco.caltech.edu (John W. Garnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Premiere II seems to work, what about the ASUS MB's?
Date: 3 Dec 1994 01:11:33 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <3bogk5$eia@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
References: <397gap$t0r@columba.udac.uu.se>
Keywords: Pentium 90, ASUS, motherboards
In article <397gap$t0r@columba.udac.uu.se>,
Erlendur Karlsson <lk@SysCon.uu.se> wrote:
|
|There seems to be an agreement that the Premiere II, Pentium 90
|motherboards work for NS. What about the ASUS motherboards like the
|ASUS PCI-P5NP4/90/100 or the ASUS dual pentium PCI/EISA-P5NP4/90/100.
|
|Does anybody have any NS-experience with these boards?
|
|-- Erlendur Karlsson
|...........................................................
|Erlendur Karlsson
|Systems and Control Group
|Uppsala University tel: +46-18-183189
|Box 27 fax: +46-18-503611
|S-751 03, Uppsala email: lk@SysCon.uu.se (NeXT mail)
NEXTSTEP 3.2 installs and runs okay on the ASUS PCI-P5NP4 90Mhz motherboard.
I've seen it running on a friend's machine that uses this motherboard (btw -
this motherboard also runs Linux okay -- and the Linux boot program LILO
is able to boot a NEXTSTEP partition).
Of course, its entirely possible that not all instances of this motherboard
will run NEXTSTEP (e.g. if the BIOS is different or some change was made
at some point). Also, I don't know if NS/FIP 3.3 works on this motherboard
(although I would guess that it does).
-John Garnett
--
--
John Garnett
garnett@cco.caltech.edu
garnett@gestalt.austin.tx.us (NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rene@prz.tu-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski)
Subject: Re: hostinfo output in non-black HW ?
Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ)
Message-ID: <D06JuJ.I3o@prz.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 10:59:06 GMT
References: <3bk2tp$613@male.EBay.Sun.COM> <3bk409$613@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin
Juan Carlos Barroux R. - SunService (barroux@licancabur.ebay.sun.com) wrote:
: Could some kind soul send me the output of the hostinfo command when
: it is run on a non-black hardware (PC and/or HP-PA systems)?
Mach kernel version:
NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
Kernel configured for a single processor only.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: I386 (Intel 486)
Processor active: 0
Primary memory available: 24.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 65 tasks, 114 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 1.96, Mach factor: 0.22
Regards
Rene'
--
____________________________________________________________________________
<rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: nickj@prime.wimsey.com (Nick Jacquet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel PLATO / BusLogic BT946C
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 1994 21:44:31 -0800
Organization: Western Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <nickj-0212942144310001@port57.annex4.net.ubc.ca>
References: <3b7hs5$j2q@pong.ping.at> <3bc887$kp0@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
How about setting the cdrom to scsi 2 and then seeing if you can get a ISA
card until 3.3 ships or you could get a NCR card and a Talus driver...
Nick
--
Nick Jacquet
nickj@prime.wimsey.com
Prime ConneXtion Systems
Vancouver, BC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dan@portland.demon.co.uk (Danny Frey)
Subject: NeXT Station 17" Colour monitor broken... another one!
Keywords: color monitor
Organization: <nil>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 20:02:13 +0000
Message-ID: <D078zq.1Mz@portland.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
My NeXT 17" Colour monitor (Philips) is kaput, the screen flickered
occasionally and now it shows no picture at all. My local TV repair shop
is making a brave effort to resuscitate it for me, regrettably they can't
find circuit diags or parts suppliers - Philips here are apparently no
help. Does anyone have similar experiences or have any idea where I could
dig up more info with a view to repair? Any help would be most
appreciated.
Many thanks in advance, If appropriate I will summarise. BTW I Iive near
Cambridge in the UK.
--
Danny Frey
NeXT mail predisposed
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: M68060? - Upgrade for slabs?
Date: 3 Dec 1994 06:35:35 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <3bp3jn$i08@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: upgrade, slab, m68060
Hi,
What happen to the person who was working on the 060 upgrade. Is
it possible to do, or did the legal problems bog it down, or is it not
technically feasible. I thought I heard it was being benchmarked. Does
Motorolla make a clocked doubled 040 that can be plugged into the slab?
Thanks!
Alan
From: samp@beretta.ramp.com (Sam Pigg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT OD doesn't function for unknown reasons.
Date: 3 Dec 1994 02:42:00 -0700
Organization: OnRamp Incorporated.
Message-ID: <3bpeh8$c0q@beretta.ramp.com>
(sorry for dual post, forgot to cross post)
The OD in my old clunky 030 cube refuses to function at all.
Doesn't try to take disks, doesn't make any noises, doesn't do anything.
I had the opportunity (briefly) to test it in another 030 chassis
and it seemed to work just fine.
I've of course tried the obvious (connections etc), but nothing seems to be
able to revive it. (hell, it still might be the connections.. but I've no
way to test it anymore.)
I'm wondering if there is a known problem with 3.0/030 and the OD?
(or perhaps some simple problem with the motherboard? This is driving me
insane.)
Anyone know of any simple tests to see if its the MB or the OD itself, or
perhaps some common prob I should've known about? (I hope)
Danke,
Sam
(samp@ramp.com)
(yes I've checked NeXTAnswers, no luck.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dwagley@netcom.com (Doug Wagley)
Subject: multi boot on object.station?
Message-ID: <dwagleyD08spL.7uM@netcom.com>
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Canon object multi
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 16:05:45 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with adding other boot partitions on
the new Canon machine? I have a need for DOS, Chicago, NT and NeXTstep...
Thanks,
Doug
dwagley@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: jaffray@helix.uchicago.edu (Alan Jaffray)
Subject: Serial port speed on NeXTStation?
Message-ID: <jaffray.941203.120849.8418@helix.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: uchicago strn fanclub
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 18:08:52 GMT
I want to use a USR Sportster 28.8 (v.34) with my NeXTStation. I've
heard from one source that the serial port is limited to 19.2 kbps and
that I'd need an adaptor to use the DSP port as a serial port in order
to realize the full capacity of the modem; I've heard from another
source that the serial port should go up to 100+ kbps without problems.
Who's right? And if I need such an adaptor, where would I get it from?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Double-Headed VGA/NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D08xCL.HoG@xexos.com>
Sender: usenet@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos Ltd (London)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 17:45:56 GMT
We need a VGA card that is supported under NEXTSTEP and can drive multiple
screens, either from the same card, or by slapping more cards in the machine.
Does anyone have any pointers?
The person that wrote the driver for one would sew up most of the financial
marketplace... all of our customers are asking us for double-headed
configurations.
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 171 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Serial port speed on NeXTStation?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 3 Dec 1994 20:03:31 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <3bqiuj$qa4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <jaffray.941203.120849.8418@helix.uchicago.edu>
Alan Jaffray (jaffray@helix.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: I want to use a USR Sportster 28.8 (v.34) with my NeXTStation. I've
: heard from one source that the serial port is limited to 19.2 kbps and
Good that nobody told this to my serial port (NeXTStation, MC68040). :-)
This is how it looks like if I am dialing from kermit manually
(which is something which I do only for testing purposes):
smok> kermit
C-Kermit 5A(190), 4 Oct 94, for NeXTSTEP
Copyright (C) 1985, 1994,
Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York.
Type ? or HELP for help.
C-Kermit>c
Connecting to /dev/cufa, speed 57600.
The escape character is Ctrl-] (ASCII 29, GS)
Type the escape character followed by C to get back,
or followed by ? to see other options.
atdt5555555
RINGING
CONNECT 57600/V32b 14400/V42b
A modem attached to /dev/cufa happens to be ZyXEL. Obvioulsy I added
required entries in /etc/gettytab and /etc/ttys. Hardware flow
control (/dev/cuf?) is really needed for anything which talks faster
than 9600.
I think that your source mixed things up with Intel hardware. How high
you can go there very much depends on a kind of UART chip employed (and
a serial port driver software).
: to realize the full capacity of the modem; I've heard from another
: source that the serial port should go up to 100+ kbps without problems.
: heard from one source that the serial port is limited to 19.2 kbps and
I did not try 115200, so I do not know. In theory you modem may compress
with 4:1 ratio, so you need computer/modem link four time faster than
your highest possible line speed. In practice I have never seen
hardware compression ratios higher than about 2. Take your pick. :-)
Michal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bill@bilver.oau.org (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Intel PLATO / BusLogic BT946C
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 21:23:08 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Dec3.212308.3521@bilver.oau.org>
References: <3b7hs5$j2q@pong.ping.at> <3bc887$kp0@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <3bc887$kp0@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>,
Markus Wenzel <wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
>
>In article <3b7hs5$j2q@pong.ping.at>, wesel@ping.at writes:
>>My hardware configuration:
>> INTEL P90 BIOS Version 1.00.10.AX1
>> BusLogic BT946C BIOS Vers. 4.86 Firmware 4.22
>>The loaded Buslogic Driver, which is loaded with a disk, hangs when
>>the driver is executing (scanning device components) during installation.
>
>Read the hardware compatibility guide: The BusLogic PCI adapter is not
>supported by the Nextstep 3.2 BusLogic driver. It will be supported with
>3.3. So you just have to wait a few weeks until 3.3 comes out.
Any word on the QLogic PCI. That sucker supports 15 targets.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org | bill.vermillion@oau.org
From: guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan Schofer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Approx 1 Gig drive info -- Black Hardware
Date: 4 Dec 1994 01:43:33 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Sender: guitar@leland.stanford.edu
Message-ID: <3br6s5$5ba@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Summary: Info on compatibility needed
Greetings,
There seem to be many questions concerning compatibility/quality/
speed/etc of SCSI drives for black hardware popping up on the net. I, too,
am looking for a decent drive in the 700mb-1.2 gb range.
I'd like to collect peoples experiences with current drives on
black hardware-- and I'll summarize to the net. This info should be
valuable to many, so please help. Also, tips on formatting, blocksize,
etc., would be useful.
I could use info on any drives-- including:
Quantum 730LT, 1080S
Micropolis 4100S
DEC 3107L
Connor 1060
---
I'll put my two cents in first:
Info on Quantum 1080S
I had the pleasure of borrowing a Quantum 1080S for a week. I formatted
it with SDformat to 1024 blocks and then used buildisk. It was plug-n-
play in both 512 and 1024 block configurations. The drive itself was
quiet, and ran fine in my NextStation Turbo, and in an external case.
The only down-side seemed to be speed. According to the utility
"driveperformance", the drive scored in a tad under 1.0, as compred to
my current Seagate 250 which manages about 1.1 (The numbers may be a bit
off-- it's been a while). Nevertheless, not stellar performance. Could
this be that the drive is 5400 rpm and I didn't account for that specifically
in formatting???
Best price-- I've seen it for around $530 at Fry's and NCA on
one-day specials.
Any info on relevant drives would be great. Please take the
time to respond:
Evan Schofer
guitar@leland.stanford.edu
--
Evan Schofer Department of Sociology
guitar@leland.stanford.edu Stanford University
evan@method.stanford.edu Stanford CA, 94306
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: JC/NX: Comments by JCIS
Message-ID: <1994Dec2.163013.20993@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <3bgm0l$dvk@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 1994 16:30:13 GMT
In article <3bgm0l$dvk@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> jcis@ix.netcom.com (Jai Choi)
writes:
> Understanding that comp.sys.next.hardware provides an information
> exchange for users of hardware running NeXTSTEP, JCIS does not feel it
> is appropriate for anyone to exploit the group for commercial purposes.
>
> A general index of JC/NX information and forum news (our responses to
> Usenet group comments on JCIS product) can be requested at our Internet
> address of info@jcis.com.
>
> Krista Maley
> JCIS Marketing Communications Manager
> kristam@jcis.com
> tel: (510)659-8440
> fax: (510)659-8449
JCIS's attitude is admirable. As a satisfied JCIS customer, however, I need not
observe the same restraint. We've got two of their "lion" pentium machines,
and both have performed flawlessly. JCIS's people have been extremely helpful
and forthcoming (for example, they wrote an NCR SCSI driver for us that would
work with our Cogent PCI ethernet board -- and provided us with an Intel card
free-of-charge while the driver was being readied). Recently, they've provided
us with detailed information regarding the notorious pentium floating-point
flaw, and are actively working with us on getting that resolved. I can
recommend them without reservation.
Serge Goldstein
Next SysAdmin
Princeton University CIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: 3rd party color monitor to Slab
Message-ID: <D090sH.32q@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <9411280436.AA00455@localhost.ohio-state.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 19:00:16 GMT
In article <9411280436.AA00455@localhost.ohio-state.edu>
jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joe Reiss) writes:
#Hello, all!
#
#My NeXTStation's color monitor is starting to flake out on me, so I'm
#looking to buy a 3rd party monitor to attach to my machine. I read
#the FAQ on this subject, and ordered the requisite 13W3 to 4 BNC
#connector from Nudata. Got it in the mail the other day.
#
#Now here's my problem. I can figure out that the red, green, and blue
#wires are for the R, G, and B signals respectively. But what do I do
#with the black wire? I'm guessing it contains the signals that are
#used by the sound box, but how in the heck do I connect it? The
#connector on the sound box, needless to say, is not BNC. What's up?
#
The black wire is for SYNC information.
The monitor you buy may or may not need that wire.
I have connected my ND to a Idek/IIyama Visiona Master 17 via the
NeXT 13W3 to BNC.
The soundbox usually connects to the computer on color machines via
a "Y" cable that has one leg going to the monitor and the other going
to the coundbox. The main leg connects to the computer.
AS simple 13W3 to BNC will not give you what you want because you need
somewhere to plug in your keyboard and sound box.
Kent
--
/* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */
/* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */
/* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: where to repair color slab (.de)
Message-ID: <D090w5.33H@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting - (Kent L. Shephard)
References: <D013q6.80A@qb.rhein-main.de>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 19:02:29 GMT
In article <D013q6.80A@qb.rhein-main.de> arrow@arrow.langen.bull.de (Armin
Roth) writes:
#Could anybody give me a pointer as which company or private could repair
#my color slab which ahs died after an exchange of am memory card. It had
#certain problems in printing on a 400dpi Next-Laser before (printing
#produced two pages blank and the third got stuck); the power supply does
#not seem to be out of order but nevertheless after pressing the power
#button the system does not start (not even the slightest move from the
#fan).
Pull the battery on the MB.
Sometimes the SRAM on the board gets corrupted.
If you pull the battery for a little while the ram will
be cleard and your problem might be fixed.
Kent
--
/* "There is no king who has not had a slave among his ancestors and */
/* no slave that has not had a king among his." ---- Helen Keller */
/* Kent L. Shephard ----- K. L. Shephard Consulting */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
From: hmo@sep.hamburg.com (Helge Oldach)
Subject: Re: ISDN
Message-ID: <D094Ix.LMt@sep.hamburg.com>
Sender: he@sep.hamburg.com (Helge Oldach)
Organization: Somebody Else's Problem
References: <schulz.94Dec1104217@gecko03>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 20:20:56 GMT
schulz@biw.cube.de writes:
| Is there a way to connect an ISDN card to a NeXT PC?
There is no problem connecting a card to a PC. The problem is the
unavailability of drivers for NeXT. To the best of my knowledge, no
manufacturer has considered writing a NeXT driver.
Well, actually a few manufacturers I know of have considered but then
abandoned providing a NeXT driver.
| Is there a way to connect an ISDN modem to the serial port of a NeXT PC?
Yes. Use a serial cable.
| Is there a way to connect an ISDN card or modem with a notebook?
| (PCMCIA, serial port......)
Yes. Use a PCMCIA/ISDN card or a serial cable, respectively.
| Any experiences?
Yes. Works fine.
--
hmo@sep.hamburg.com Fazer auf Betäubung!
From: roffel@biw.cube.de (Lee Roffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: where to repair color slab (.de)
Date: 2 Dec 1994 20:16:26 GMT
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
Message-ID: <3bnvaq$b6i@next01.biw.cube.de>
References: <D013q6.80A@qb.rhein-main.de>
In article <D013q6.80A@qb.rhein-main.de> arrow@arrow.langen.bull.de (Armin
Roth) writes:
> Could anybody give me a pointer as which company or private could repair
> my color slab which ahs died after an exchange of am memory card. It had
>>>
These people offer a flat-rate exchange on defect hardware...
.. sometimes a bit expensive ... sometimes cheaper than buying a new
board.
Firma
Sorbus
Willst tterstra e 13
40549 D sseldorf
Phone: 0211 / 526101
ciao...
..Lee
--
Lee Roffel NeXTMail: roffel@biw.cube.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Doug Moore
Subject: Re: Installing 2nd HD in Cube
Message-ID: <D0AIz4.GwJ@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <dhurter-0112942350260001@flipper.sirius.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 14:32:22 GMT
Don Hurter writes
| For a power cable, get a Y adapter that takes the standard 4-pin plug and
| makes it into two plugs (cost ~ $3 at Fry's.)
|
| For SCSI, its a bit trickier. I would think you could also create a Y
Gosh, there were two power connectors and SCSI connectors in my cube already...
--
Douglas Moore
St Paul, MN
612-227-3274
dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
From: trance9@clark.net (Trance 9)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Thicknet to thin/10BaseT converter?
Date: 4 Dec 1994 14:27:18 -0500
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
Message-ID: <3bt56m$3dr@explorer.clark.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi All,
I recently picked up an old sun 2/120, and would like to network
it to my NextStation. The 2/120 has (I beleive) a thick ethernet
connector while the NeXT has two connectors which are (I beleive) thin and
10BaseT. Is there a way to hook these via ethernet, like a converter?
Thanks for any advice, pointers, etc. PEace,
James
From: root@lusi2.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (Martin Lubitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN and NEXTSTEP/Intel
Date: 4 Dec 1994 19:15:40 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3bt4gs$nhp@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3bjir8$57s@xmission.xmission.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
kris (kris@xmission.com) wrote:
: My area is due to get ISDN service in the early spring. I'd like to use my
: NEXTSTEP/Intel box to connect to my Internet service provider using ISDN,
: but I haven't heard of a NEXTSTEP/Intel-compatible ISDN adaptor. Does one
: yet exist?
None that I know of. Use a cheap PC (386SX with DOS) as router instead.
: I know that a new or upcoming ZyXEL V.34 modem will be upgradeable to ISDN,
: but I'm neither sure if it'll work with NEXTSTEP/Intel, nor am I sure if it
: can deal with primary-rate bandwidth.
Dunno.
: ................................kris
: --
: Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: Without LOVE, BEAUTY, or DANGER, it would almost be easy to live
--
____________________________________________________________________
Martin Lubitz lusi@lusi1.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
Berlin - Germany >>>>>>> 2b || !2b; that is the question... <<<<<<<
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Operator41)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC 1152 laser printer
Date: 4 Dec 1994 19:02:26 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <3bt3o2$skb@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <3bigpn$oph@relay.tor.hookup.net>
Doug Sanders (dsanders@hookup.net) wrote:
: Hi all,
: Does anybody use one of these? If so, how do you like it and does
: the 1150 PPD file work with it or is there one in one of the archives for
: the 1152?
We have a few 1152's here, and we use 1150 PPD with no
real problems...
--
| Rex A. Dieter | Research Associate |
| rdieter@math.unl.edu | UN-L Mathematics Dept. |
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN and NEXTSTEP/Intel
Date: 3 Dec 1994 13:57:40 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bptgk$83@filtronix.eunet.be>
References: <3bjir8$57s@xmission.xmission.com>
In article <3bjir8$57s@xmission.xmission.com> kris@xmission.com (kris)
writes:
> I know that a new or upcoming ZyXEL V.34 modem will be upgradeable to
> ISDN, but I'm neither sure if it'll work with NEXTSTEP/Intel, nor am I
> sure if it can deal with primary-rate bandwidth.
The ZyXEL Elite 2864 and Supreme 2864 will indeed be upgradeble to ISDN.
I'm planning on getting myself went they become available and if they're
not support, I'll make them support by writeing a suitable driver:-) That
will include a driver so that they can be attached to the Parallel Port.
Filip
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Date: 4 Dec 1994 15:27:12 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bt8n0$2b1@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
References: <3b6189$4s2@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> <1994Nov30.185207.20974@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <3bm3ba$3jb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) writes:
>Does it matter if the MO is MAC version or PC version??
Not sure what you mean by this, but... Im using both mac and dos formatted as
well as NeXT formatted OD's.
If you mean dip swithces... I have the dips set to Unix/PC mode, and I have
the unit set to HD (Not optical) mode.
Works with everything for me...
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Re: Thicknet to thin/10BaseT converter?
Message-ID: <bbutlerD0AztC.5Bu@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <3bt56m$3dr@explorer.clark.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 20:34:23 GMT
Trance 9 (trance9@clark.net) wrote:
> Hi All,
> I recently picked up an old sun 2/120, and would like to network
> it to my NextStation. The 2/120 has (I beleive) a thick ethernet
If this is a DB-15 with a stupid-looking sliding locking connector, then
it is actually a transceiver connection. The transceiver cable, which is
a 15 conductor cable, is often misnamed thick ethernet, because it
resembles, in size, the thick coaxial (2 conductor) cable that is rarely
used anymore for ethernet cabling.
The transceiver is a little box that connects directly to the network via
a tap. You choose the type of transceiver based on what kind of network
you're going to connect to. You can get transceivers for thick, thin, or
twisted pair (10BASET). Cabletron is a good source of transceivers. They
have a TMS-3 for thin, and a TPT-4 for twisted pair. With the TMS-3 you will
also need a transceiver cable to connnect the workstation to the
transceiver. Cabletron's number is (603) 332-9400.
> connector while the NeXT has two connectors which are (I beleive) thin and
> 10BaseT. Is there a way to hook these via ethernet, like a converter?
> Thanks for any advice, pointers, etc. PEace,
Systems like the NeXT and modern Suns that have built-in coax or 10BASET
connectors actually have transceivers built-in. I have never seen a
machine with built-in thick transceiver, so this probably just adds
to the confusion between thick and the transceiver connection.
Good luck,
--
-------
Bryan Butler
bbutler@netcom.com
From: katsuya@prior.ca (Kuni Katsuya)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where can I get NeXT hardware?
Date: 2 Dec 1994 17:19:04 GMT
Organization: Prior Data Sciences Ltd.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3bnku8$kn@powys.north.net>
There seemed to be no FAQ for this group, so here comes a newbie question:
Can anyone point me to a source for NeXT hardware? I know that NeXT doesn't
manufacture boxes anymore and I'm pretty sure no one else does... or do they?
I need to get a demo box complete with NeXTStep ASAP.
Please e-mail me your responses to katsuya@prior.ca. If I get a sizable list, I will compile it and post it to this group.
Thanks.
From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New ZyXEL 28.8k modems, with ISDN! Drivers?
Date: 4 Dec 1994 16:18:11 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <3bsq43$4np@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
ZyXEL will soon release a new series of modems with speeds up to 28.8kbps
(V.34) and complete ISDN option. They can be used with serial and parallel
ports, with ethernet under consideration. Since driving NEXTSTEP at ISDN
speeds of ~128kbps (more with V.42bis compression!) over the serial line wouldn't
be such a good idea (even with FIFO), the only solution to this is the parallel
port.
From comp.dcom.modems:
--snip--
Path: sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de!nntp.gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcomsv!netcomsv!zyxel.com!not-for-mail
From: brentm@zyxel.com (Brent Mosbrook)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Zyxel V.34-not til February?
Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:55:31 -0800
Organization: ZyXEL, The Intelligent Modem
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <3bnu3j$5i0@techie.zyxel.com>
References: <1994Nov18.175455.16166@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <3b6r9v$qbe@gopher.sdsc.edu> <marvinlCzz29K.J5z@netcom.com> <3bdl3j$kn0@techie.zyxel.com> <D05zFE.1rp@scifi.uucp>
NNTP-Posting-Host: techie_tcp.zyxel.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Nick Simicich (njs@scifi.bocaraton.ibm.com) wrote:
: Brent Mosbrook <brentm@zyxel.com> wrote:
: >i.e., bidirectional? yes. But those have been out for several years
: Um, will there be any chance of us non-dos users figuring out this
: protocol? Will there be, for example, Sample DOS C code that we can
: adapt?
absolutely. We will be releasing programming info for the parallel port,
and will also work with programmers for each of the major OS's to get
drivers written by the time the modems are released.
--
Brent Mosbrook brentm@zyxel.com
Product Development voice - 714-693-0808
ZyXEL BBS - 714-693-0762
FTP - ftp.zyxel.com /pub/other/zyxel Fax - 714-693-8811
-snip--
(see http://www.zyxel.com for more info on these gems)
This would probably be an easy way out of the NEXTSTEP/serial fuss/ISDN
dilemma we are facing currently. The question is, who can write such a
driver? Anybody from Talus, perhaps? Or the savior of the serial ports,
Mark Salyzyn of Mux fame? My $$'s are looking for a new home :)
I feel a need - a need for speed...
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstätte // [EMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
From: rsingh@ix.netcom.com (Rashpal Singh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q] Supported 28.8 bps modem for NS/FIP
Date: 5 Dec 1994 02:22:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bttgd$o3r@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Would someone know of a v.34 modem that works with NeXTSTEP/I ? I know
Zyxel has very good compatibility with NS/FIP but they still haven't
come out with their v.34 modem
Thanks.
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXT KEYBOARD ON MAC?
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 01:43:00 GMT
Message-ID: <941204222210406@btf.com>
Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766
Distribution: world
Is it posible to use a Next adb keyboard on a Macintosh?
Thanks, Ronald Pottol
* RM 1.3 * Eval Day 118 * He's dead Jim...... Grab his wallet Spock!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: arrow@arrow.langen.bull.de
Subject: Faulty Colorstation: solution found - thanx-
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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 07:48:30 GMT
Thanks to all of you who helped me fast find a solution for my faulty
Colorstation. The reason was not the Lithium-battery but the EPROM, which I
had to erase. I burnt a new one and here I go.
Special thanks to Jim Moosmann, you were very helpful.
-Armin
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VL Umwelt/OeV
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From: scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hardware Guide
Date: 5 Dec 1994 13:40:35 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bv58j$d5v@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Hello NeXT community and people interested in NeXT,
I'm looking for a new PC hardware for NeXTSTEP and encountered the dungle
of boards, cards, processors etc. When I asked for additional information
I had to realize that there is no hardware FAQ and the compatibility guide
bye NeXT is only covering bundled systems and certain hardware extensions.
Because I got several answers and some people asked for a list of compatible
hardware I am posting this draft list. The list isn't complete and I rely
on your help for further information.
If you like this list to be administrated regularly, just drop me a line.
I was trying to get all possible information about _available_ hardware.
I surely missed some manufactures and products. On most hardware components
I had no information. Included is the information _I_ thought it's most
important, more information might be available on request. Graphic adapters
are included to show more available cards with possible third party support
and to show cards which are _not_ compatible in any way with NeXTSTEP.
If I missed a product or showed something wrong, feel free to send me a mail.
You can of course mail me, too, if you have enhancement suggestions,
hate this list, love this list, want to invite me for a drink, ...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!! THERE IS NO WARRANTY IN ANY CASE BY USING THIS INFORMATION !!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The list currently covers:
- motherboards
- graphic adapters
- monitors
Soundcards and additional hardware (ISDN, Ethernet, printers, etc.) might
follow on request.
MOTHERBOARDS:
=============
Shortcuts:
Bus: I = ISA, E = EISA, V = Vesa Local Bus, P = PCI
Ports: S = Serial, P = Parallel, M = Mouse, F = Floppy
Other: C = Compatible with NeXTSTEP
SCSI: A = AM79C974-R02, N = NCR810-R01, BIOS = SDMS-BIOS for NCR 810
468 compatible
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Bus: Ports SCSI+ L2-Cache RAM
Manufact. Type IEVP SPMF BIOS Avail/Max max. C Chipset Comments
Asus SP3G ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Asus AP4 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Pentium 60/66
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Bus: Ports SCSI+ L2-Cache RAM
Manufact. Type IEVP SPMF BIOS Avail/Max max. C Chipset Comments
AMI Excal. PCI-II 4--4 2111 -/3.04 512/512 512 ? SiS 1
Asus PCI/E-P5MP4 -4-4 ---- -/3.04 512/512 192 ? Mercury
Asus PCI/I-P5MP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
Asus PCI/I-P5SP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? SiS
BCM SQ 503 4-23 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? Python 2
Chaintech 586IPI.4 4--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 192 ? Mercury
Compaq Desk.XL5/66 -4-2 2111 A/- 256/256 144 ? Mercury
Dell Opti. 560/L 3--1 2111 -/- 256/256 128 ? Mercury
Elitegroup SI5PI-AIO 4--4 21-1 -/- 256/1024 128 ? SiS
FIC PM900 4--3 ---- -/3.04 256/256 192 ? Mercury
Gigabyte GA-586IM -5-4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 192 ? Mercury
Gigabyte GA-586AL 4--3 21-1 -/3.04 1024/1024 160 ? Aladin 2
Intel Batman II 5--4 21-1 -/3.00 256/256 128 ? Mercury
J-Bond PCI500C-A 4--4 ---- N/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
Micronics M5PE -6-3 21-1 -/- 256/512 192 ? Mercury
Micronics M5Pi 5--3 21-1 -/- 256/256 128 ? Mercury
MSI 586MC1 MS-5103 5--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
MSI Pentium AL 1 4--4 ---- -/3.04 256/1026 160 ? Aladin 2
Shuttle HOT-523b 5-23 ---- -/3.04 256/512MB 128 ? Premium 2
SNI PCD-5H 3--2 2111 -/- 256/256 128 ? Mercury
1: 128 Bit L2-Cache access
2: Opti Chipsets are known to have slow video.
Pentium 90/100
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Bus: Ports SCSI+ L2-Cache RAM
Manufact. Type IEVP SPMF BIOS Avail/Max max. C Chipset Comments
ALR Evolut. V St 5--3 2111 -/- 256/256 264 ? Neptun
AMI Atlas PCI 4--4 2111 -/3.04 512/512 128 ? SiS 1
Asus PCI/I-P54NP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/512 512 ? Neptun
Asus PCI/I-P54SP4 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? SiS
BCM SQ-588 4--4 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? SiS
BCM SQ-545 4-23 2111 -/3.04 256/1024 128 ? Python 2
Chaintech 586SLB 5--3 ---- -/3.04 256/512 128 ? SiS
Elitegroup Si54P AIO 4--4 21-1 -/- 256/512 128 ? SiS
Gigabyte GA-586IP 4--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 512 ? Neptun
J-Bond PCI500C-C 4--4 ---- N/3.04 1024/1024 128 ? SiS 1
Intel Plato 5--3 21-1 -/- 256/256 128 ? Neptun
Intel PremierePCI/II ? ? ? ? ? + Neptun
Micronics M54Pi Testaro. 5--3 21-1 -/- 256/512 192 ? Neptun
MSI 586 MC2 MS5106 5--4 ---- -/3.04 256/512 128 ? Mercury
Shuttle HOT-543 VP 4-24 ---- -/3.04 512/2MB 128 ? Premium 1,2
1: 128 Bit L2-Cache access
2: Opti Chipsets are known to have slow video.
GRAPHIC ADAPTERS (PCI only)
===========================
Resolutions and frequencies may drop if less than the max. RAM is available.
Shortcuts:
V = VRAM, D = DRAM
C = compatible with NeXTSTEP
RAM Max. Chip RAM-
Manufact. Type TrueColor Max.Res. MB Hz DAC C Comment
ATI Graph.Ultra Pro ? ? ? ? ATI ? +
ATI Ult.Graph.ProXLR ? ? ? ? MACH32 ? +
ATI Gr.Ultr.ProTurbo ? ? ? ? MACH64 ? +
ATI Gr.ProTurbo ? 1280x/? 2-4 V 100 ? ? ?
ATI Winturbo ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
ATI Grap. Xpression ? 1280x/ 2 D 75 ? ? ?
Cirrus 5434 ? ? 1 D ? Cirrus ? ?
Compaq QVision 1024E ? ? ? ? ? ? +
Compaq QVision 1280E ? ? ? ? ? ? +
Compaq QVision 2000 ? ? ? ? ? ? -
Diamond Viper 1280x/? 1600x/? 2-4 V 120 P9100 ? ?
Diamond Stealth 32 ? ? ? ? GD5434 ? +
Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 120 S3 864 ? +
Diamond Stealth 64 1164x/? 1280x/? 2-4 V 120 S3 964 ? +
Diamond Viper Pro Video 1280x/? 1600x/? 2-4 V 120 P9100 ? ? 2
Elsa Winner1000 800x/75 1152x/83 1-2 ? ? ? ? + 1
Elsa Winner1000Pro 800x/? 1280x/75 1-2 ? ? S3 864 135 + 1
Elsa Winner2000 1280x/75 1600x/52 2-4 V 100 ? ? + 1
Elsa Winner2000Pro 1152x/82 1600x/77 4 V ? S3 964 220 + 1,4
Genoa VideoBlitz 9200 ? ? ? ? ? ? +
Hercules Stingray 640x/? 1280x/? 1 D 75 AL2302 ? ?
Hercules Stingray 64 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 90 AL2364 ? ?
Hercules Pow.Dynamite64 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 120 W32P ? ?
Hercules Graphite 800x/? 1280x/? 2 V 150 S3 968 ? ?
Hercules Terminator64 1280x/? 1280x/? 4 V 150 S3 968 220 ?
Hercules Pow.Graphie 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 V 150 AGX016 ? -
Matrox MGA Impression+ 1280x/100 1600x/76 4 V 120 MGA 3 220 -
Matrox MGA Ultima ? ? 4 ? ? ? ? -
Matrox MGA II ? ? ? ? MGA 2 ? -
Miro 20SD ? ? 1-2 D ? ? ? + 3
Miro 20SV ? ? 2 V ? ? ? + 3
Miro 40SV ? ? 4 V ? ? ? + 3
Number 9 #9GXE Level10 ? ? ? D ? ? ? +
Number 9 #9GXE Level11 ? ? ? D ? ? ? +
Number 9 #9GXE Level12 ? ? ? D ? ? ? +
Number 9 #9GXE Level14 ? ? ? D ? ? ? +
Number 9 #9GXE Level16 ? ? ? V ? ? ? +
Number 9 #9GXE 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2DV 200 S3 928 ? +
Number 9 #9GXE 64 800x/? 1280x/? 1-2 D 120 S3 864 ? -
Number 9 #9GXE 64 Pro 1152x/? 1600x/? 2-4 V 150 S3 964 ? +
Number 9 #9GXE 1280 1024x/? 1280x/? 4 V 200 S3 928 ? ?
Number 9 #9GXE 1600 1024x/? 1600x/? 4 V 200 S3 928 ? +
Number 9 Imagine 128 ? ? ? ? ? ? +
Spea V7-Vega Plus 640x/? 1024x/75 1 V 75 AL2301 ? ?
Spea V7-Mirage P64 800x/75 1280x/75 1-2 D 100 S3 864 ? ?
Spea V7-Mercury P64 800x/90 1280x/75 2 V 100 S3 964 ? ?
Spea V7-Storm Pro 1280x/80 1600x/? 4 V 100 P 9100 ? ?
STB Pegasus ? ? ? ? ? ? +
STB Lightspeed ? ? ? ? ET4k32 ? +
TsengLabs ET4000 ? ? ? ? ET4k ? +
Taxan WinBoost 640x/100 1280x/75 2 D 100 ATI 64 ? ?
Taxan WinTurbo 800x/100 1280x/75 2 V 100 ATI 64 ? ?
Taxan WinTurbo + 1280x/60 1280x/75 4 V 100 ATI 64 ? ?
1: for more info use NeXTanswer; known for excellent driver support.
2: also Weitek 9130
3: twin versions work but without twin feature!
4: the 220 MHZ RAMDAC is only available with the 2000 Pro H.
MONITORS (Multiscan only)
=========================
Sizes are 'visible' sizes if known.
General sizes: 14" = 34, 15" = 36, 17" = 41, 19" = 46, 20" = 48, 21" = 51
Horiz.
Manufact. Type Size Res. Mask kHz Comments
Cornerst. Image Accel <51 1600x ? ? 2
Eizo Flex. F340i-W-PM <38 ? ? ?
Eizo Flex. F340i-W-T92 <38 ? ? ?
Eizo Flex. F552i-W <44 ? ? ?
Eizo T660i-T92 <51 ? ? ? 3
Eizo Flex. F760i-W-MKII ? ? ? ?
Eizo Flex. F780i-W ? ? ? ?
Elsa CM 21E110T <51 1600x 0.26 60-107 1
Elsa GDM 20E40 <50 1024x 0.31 30-85 1,3
Elsa GDM 17E40 <43 1280x 0.26 28-82 1,3
Hitachi CM 1797 MEZ 41 1280x 0.26 30-82
Hitachi CM 2098 ME 48 1280x 0.28 30-90
Hitachi CM 2198 ME 51 1280x 0.28 30-90
Hitachi 15 MVX Plus 36 1024x 0.28 30-64
Hitachi 17 MVX Value 41 1280x 0.26 30-64
Hitachi 17 MVX Plus 41 1280x 0.26 ? -82
Hitachi 20 MVX Plus 48 1280x 0.31 30-69
IDEK liyma Vis. MF8617 <43 ? ? ? -82
IDEK liyma MT 9121 <55 ? ? ?
Lion DN-1564 GLR <39 1280x ? 31-64
Lion CT-1968 <48 1280x ? ?
MAG DX 15F <38 ? ? ? -64
MAG MX 17FG <43 ? ? ? -64
MAG DX 17F <43 1280x ? 30-64
MAG MX 17S <43 ? ? ? -64 3
MAG MXP 17F <43 ? ? ? -82
MAG MX 21F <55 1600x ? 30-82
Miro C1782 <44 ? ? ? -82
Miro C2085 <53 ? ? ? -85
Miro C2185 <55 ? ? ? -85
Nec Multisync 2V 33 1024x 0.28 31-57
Nec Multisync 3V 35 1024x 0.28 31-50
Nec Multisync 4E 35 1024x 0.28 31-65
Nec Multisync 5E 40 1024x 0.28 31-65
Nec Multisync 5FGp <43 1280x 0.28 27-79
Nec Multisync 6FGp <53 1280x 0.28 27-79
Philips 14C (7CM 5279) <36 1024x ? ?
Philips 15A (4CM 8274) <38 ? ? ? -58
Philips 15B (4CM 8270) <38 ? ? ? -58
Philips 17C (4CM 4770) <43 1024x ? ?
Philips 17A (4CM 6282) <43 1280x ? ? -82
Philips 17B (4CM 6099) <43 ? ? ? -64
Philips 17T (4CM 6088) <43 1024x ? ? 3
Philips 20C (4CM 2799) <53 ? ? ?
Philips 20T (C2082 DAS) <53 ? ? ? 3
Philips 20A (C2182 DAS) <53 ? ? ?
Philips 21A (C2182) <55 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 428VSL <35 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 428TXL <35 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 428UXL <35 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 528UXL <38 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 728SXL <43 ? ? ?
Samsung Samtron 728DXL <43 1280x ? ?
Smile CA 1450 <36 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1451 <36 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1413 <36 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1506 <38 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1703 <43 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1718 <43 ? ? ?
Smile CA 1706 <43 ? ? ?
Spea 2085 MS <53 1280x 0.31 29-85
Sony Multiscan 15sf <39 1280x 0.25 31-64 3
Sony Multiscan 17se ? ? ? ? 3
Sony Multiscan 20se ? ? ? ? 3
Sony CDP 1730 <44 1024x 0.25 28-58
Sony CPD 15sf <38 ? ? ?
Sony DW GDM20E01T/2085 ? ? ? ?
Sony DW GDM17E01T/1782 ? ? ? ?
Sony GDM 20E01 TCO <53 1280x 0.30 30-85 3
Sony GDM 17E01 TCO <43 1280x 0.25 ? -82 3
Sony GDM 17se1T <44 ? ? ?
Sony GDM 20se1VT <51 ? ? ?
Taxan Ergov. 580 LR <35 1280x 0.28 30-64
Taxan Ergov. 880 LR <43 1280x 0.28 30-64
Taxan Ergov. 885 LR <43 1280x 0.26 30-82
Taxan Ergov. 895 LR <43 1600x 0.25 30-85
Taxan Ergov. 1080 LR <51 1280x 0.28 30-82
Taxan Ergov. 2100 LR <53 1600x 0.30 30-90
1: Manufactured completely by Sony on special orders of Elsa.
2: special monitors for document image processing. Further data on req.
3: Trinitron mask known
Some monitors are not able to use the full display are. Monitors
which are known to do this are from: Eizo, Nec, IDEK.
THANKS
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The following people helped me (by posting or mailing)
collecting this material (sorry if I missed somebody):
- Axel Habermann
- Ethan Straffin
- Daniel L. Kramer
- Holger Hofstätter
- Reimer A. Mellin
- Jens Ch. Gloede
- Stefan Preuss
- Gerd Gueldenpfennig
- Karsten Heinze
- Johann Adalbert
- Gerhard Moeller
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http://www.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/people/scholz.html.
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From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which AST computers work with NEXTSTEP?
Date: 5 Dec 1994 14:25:20 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <3bv7sg$a7v@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Keywords: AST, NEXTSTEP, compatibility
Hello,
My wife has been wanting me to buy a PC for her,
and if I get one I would like one that can run NEXTSTEP.
I have been offered an opportunity to buy one of several
factory-refurbished AST computers, but I do not know
which ones (if any) are best suited for NEXTSTEP.
I would be really grateful if people with NEXTSTEP
running on an AST (or knowledge of NEXTSTEP running on an
AST) would send me email to briefly tell me what models
and/or configurations work. I admit up front that while
I am familiar with NEXTSTEP, I do not know anything about
PC's. In your descriptions, please feel free to assume I
am totally ignorant and spell out things in as much detail
as you can stand. If you would like to add any comments
about your experience with AST computers, especially as
they relate to NEXTSTEP, that would be helpful as well.
I really appreciate the assistance. Thanks,
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: korosec@bs.id.ethz.ch (Wolfgang Korosec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Troubles with EtherlinkIII (3c509 Combo) on EISA machine
Date: 5 Dec 1994 11:45:07 GMT
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ)
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Dear NextSteppers
I have troubles installing a 3COM Etherlink III (3c509 combo) in my
Compaq Deskpro 5/66M
with EISA bus. The PC is equipped with 32 MB Ram, a Buslogic BT747S
SCSI adapter and a QVision 1280E video card.
I am using the newest EtherlinkIII drivers (Update 1 -
1654_EtherLinkIIIDriver) and I tried
to set up the card as ISA and as EISA device. I checked the port
adresses, Int's and all that stuff. The system recognices the EISA slot
ID, but the card is not usable after startup (if the card is configured
as an ESIA device).
The hardware should be OK, because networking runs fine if I boot the
machine with DOS <:-(
Thank you for your help in advance and
best regards
Wolfgang Korosec korosec@bs.id.ethz.ch
Informatikdienste ETH Zuerich
Beratung & Schulung Switzerland
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From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Supported 28.8 bps modem for NS/FIP
Date: 5 Dec 1994 08:20:16 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bvb3g$oli@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <3bttgd$o3r@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Rashpal Singh (rsingh@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Would someone know of a v.34 modem that works with NeXTSTEP/I ? I know
: Zyxel has very good compatibility with NS/FIP but they still haven't
: come out with their v.34 modem
: Thanks.
I'm using the USR Courier "V.everything" modem. Works fine on my Color slab.
...................................kris
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From: Rene.Kulschewski@rkt.in-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Serial port speed on NeXTStation?
Date: 5 Dec 1994 06:52:28 GMT
Organization: The Fair Affair
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3budbc$4nd@rkt.in-berlin.de>
References: <3bqiuj$qa4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
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In article <3bqiuj$qa4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca
(Michal Jaegermann) writes:
> I did not try 115200, so I do not know.
Look at /usr/include/bsd/sys/ttydev.h. As you can see, 57600 bps is the
max. supported speed.
Regards
Rene'
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<rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: where can I get a NeXT fixed?
Date: 5 Dec 1994 16:02:18 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3bvdia$2mm@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Hello there:
My primary NeXT will not power on and I would like to know where I can get
the turbo slab fixed. For months now, I haven't been able to turn it off
or reboot (Command ~ and Command Command ~ didn't work - neither did the
various buttons on the login panel). Once the swapfile became uncontrollable,
I physically pulled the plug to turn off the machine.
Well, my sins have caught up with me. This turbo slab now won't even power
on. I would appreciate any of the following info:
1. Where can I find a place to service this?
2. If it's the power supply, is it something which I can do myself?
Any other relevant info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Alex
From: Rene.Kulschewski@rkt.in-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Please help: Cube freezes !
Date: 5 Dec 1994 18:18:45 GMT
Organization: The Fair Affair
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3bvli5$134@rkt.in-berlin.de>
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I have a big problem with a Cube (40MB RAM, Dimension with 20MB RAM, NS 3.2).
Sometimes the machine simply "freezes", sometimes it gets a kernel panic with
different messages: eg. "illegal instruction", "Cpu (0) fp is not one",
"Unexpected kernel page fault failure" etc.
I've done a new installation, i changed the RAM, the disk drive and all
cables, no success...
What can I do ? I'm pretty sure that's a hardware failure, but how can i
check out the faulty part ?
If i press "p" at the boot prompt, there is a option "boot extended
diagnostics". Where can i get these tools ?
Thanks
Rene'
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From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: where can I get a NeXT fixed?
Date: 5 Dec 1994 16:10:07 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3bve0v$2pe@hermes.dna.mci.com>
References: <3bvdia$2mm@hermes.dna.mci.com>
In article <3bvdia$2mm@hermes.dna.mci.com>,
Alex Nghiem <alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> wrote:
>Hello there:
>
>My primary NeXT will not power on and I would like to know where I can get
>the turbo slab fixed. For months now, I haven't been able to turn it off
>or reboot (Command ~ and Command Command ~ didn't work - neither did the
>various buttons on the login panel). Once the swapfile became uncontrollable,
>I physically pulled the plug to turn off the machine.
>
>Well, my sins have caught up with me. This turbo slab now won't even power
>on. I would appreciate any of the following info:
>
>1. Where can I find a place to service this?
>2. If it's the power supply, is it something which I can do myself?
>
>Any other relevant info would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Alex
Sorry I forgot to mention that our newserver has been acting up. Please e-mail
me directly since I doubt if this is of interest to anybody else.
Sorry for the extra bandwith,
Alex
From: barry@nacm.com (Barry Lustig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sounds Cards
Date: 5 Dec 1994 11:23:35 -0800
Organization: Nicholas-Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3bvpbn$1i3@portmgr1.nacm.com>
What low-cost sound cards are folks using in their Intel machines
running NeXTSTEP?
barry
From: fogelson@ursula.uoregon.edu (Nick Fogelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/Intel printing woes
Date: 5 Dec 1994 19:38:38 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <3bvq7u$m8o@pith.uoregon.edu>
References: <ijeff.94Nov28131046@jasper.maeng> <1994Nov29.105808.17837@aplki.toppoint.de>
Not to rub in anyone's face or anything, but I have a Apple LaserWriter
Select 360 working perfectly on my NS/FIP computer. Perhaps HP doesn't
support NS as well? You might try the new parrallel driver that they put
out (although I'm running the original driver and it works fine for me)
Other possibility - i think NeXT's flavor of UNIX uses the network manager for printing. I've noticed that if I have a SLIP connection up printing takes about ten times as long as when I have it down. You might look if you have some network connections that are causing problems.
nick Fogelson
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Where can I get NeXT hardware?
Date: 5 Dec 1994 22:23:45 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3c03th$6gd@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3bnku8$kn@powys.north.net>
In article <3bnku8$kn@powys.north.net> katsuya@prior.ca (Kuni Katsuya)
writes:
> Can anyone point me to a source for NeXT hardware?
comp.sys.next.marketplace
Or try calling the companies in the list below.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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1) Bell Atlantic 1-800-499-NEXT (6398)
2) Pixelated Technologies 1-800-749-3563 & 310-459-6831
pixel8ed@kaiwan.com
4) Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
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14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228
Englewood, Colorado 80112
Toll Free: 1-800-452-7608
Phone: 1-303-799-6223
Fax: 1-303-799-1435
E-mail: info@alembic.com
ENGLEWOOD, COLORADO - November 18, 1994. Canon Computers, Inc. and
Alembic / Object Technologies, Inc. announced today the signing of an
agreement which makes Alembic the Exclusive Reseller of the Canon
object.station for all Educational clients.
They also sell PC clones.
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590 Lipoa Parkway
Kihei, Maui, HI 96753
808-875-2456
808-874-3650 fax
800-221-2217 toll free
orders@dancingbear.com
sales@dancinbear.com
info@dancingbear.com
ftp://ftp.maui.com/pub/dancingbear/index
http://www.maui.com/~dancingbear/
Brian Griswold
brian@dancingbear.com
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Contact: OpenSource, Inc.
1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012
Denver, CO 80203
Toll Free: 1-800-TRY-OPEN (879-6736)
Phone: 1-303-861-4411
Fax: 1-303-861-2393
E-mail: info@opensource.com
Hardware and software.
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
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James Moosmann E-mail: moose@moose.pdial.interpath.net
255 Camelot Rd. Salisbury, NC 28147 Phone/FAX: (704)633-8885
*************************************************************
end of used NeXT hardware support. Companies below sell new stuff only.
*************************************************************
Mark Wauchope, President - Apache Digital apache@onramp.net
DOS, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
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OSD, Inc. (HP hardware)
phone: (206)343-7828 (ask Igor)
fax: (206)628 0722
http://www.seanet.com
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GEC Computers, Inc. (low prices, high performance, NextStep Intel
hardware)
1901 East University, Suite 300
Mesa, Arizona 85203
(602) 834-1111
(800) 486-1000
gec@libre.com
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WHAT Software, Inc.
282 South Huxley Drive
Buffalo, NY 14225
(716) 834-2117 voice/fax
e-mail: ak272@freenet.buffalo.edu
reseller of Intel, DEC, and Hewlett Packard 486 and Pentium based systems.
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DataNet
(800) 695-1599
I dealt with Steve Muir there. I give him and DataNet my highest
recommendation. He can be reached at smuir@eclipse.com or at
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Date: 31 Oct 1994 19:10:13 GMT
we can beat other prices on P90 + specific component systems by
several hundred bucks (and include shipping, and NS installation from your
license).
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
dkramer@onramp.net
(713) 531-7959
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ecesys@delphi.com
Thu, 17 Nov 94 03:33:32
eCesys continues to lead the market with the most aggressive prices
possible, while guaranteeing compatibility with NSFIP. Please contact us
if we can assist you with an Intel-based deployment of NEXTSTEP.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
nauvoo@aol.com
17 Nov 1994 00:45:25
Looking to buy NEXTSTEP equipment? We have very competitive pricing. We
have DEC P590 XL's and other models that are configured with everything
needed to run NEXTSTEP. We have drivers for most needs.
Call 800-748-4558, ask for Hal
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From: robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: M68060? - Upgrade for slabs?
Date: 5 Dec 1994 21:55:22 GMT
Organization: Pencom Sofware
Message-ID: <3c028a$lhj@digdug.pencom.com>
References: <3bp3jn$i08@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
In article <3bp3jn$i08@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A.
Barhorst) writes:
:Hi,
: What happen to the person who was working on the 060 upgrade. Is
:it possible to do, or did the legal problems bog it down, or is it not
:technically feasible. I thought I heard it was being benchmarked. Does
:Motorolla make a clocked doubled 040 that can be plugged into the slab?
:Thanks!
The 040 that comes in the slab already _is_ "clock doubled". The NeXTstation
has a 25/50Mhz 040, and the Turbo has a 33/66Mhz 040.
Haven't heard anything about the 060 lately...
--
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*** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! ***
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy
Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: anthony@ipanema.TTI.COM (Wendell Anthony)
Subject: ********
Message-ID: <1994Dec5.222435.11727@ttinews.tti.com>
Sender: usenet@ttinews.tti.com (Usenet Admin)
Organization: Transaction Technology, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 22:24:35 GMT
Has anyone connected a 400dpi next printer to a macintosh. I have both
machines and I want to share the printer (outside of networking).
Does the next printer engine similar to a laser writer? What kind of cable
would I need?
Thanks in advance.
Wendell Anthony <anthony@ipanema.tti.com>
{philabs,psivax,pyramid,quad1,rdlvax,retix,rutgers}!ttidca!anthony
Transaction Technology Inc. a subsidiary of Citicorp (213) 450-9111 x3081
From: rsingh@ix.netcom.com (Rashpal Singh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New ZyXEL 28.8k modems, with ISDN! Drivers?
Date: 6 Dec 1994 02:30:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c0icf$8hk@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
References: <3bsq43$4np@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
In <3bsq43$4np@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de
(Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
>
>ZyXEL will soon release a new series of modems with speeds up to
28.8kbps
>(V.34) and complete ISDN option. They can be used with serial and
parallel
>ports, with ethernet under consideration. Since driving NEXTSTEP at
ISDN
>speeds of ~128kbps (more with V.42bis compression!) over the serial
line wouldn't
>be such a good idea (even with FIFO), the only solution to this is the
parallel
>port.
Any idea what the street/retail price will be for this modem ? Thanks.
From: yung-cha@cae.wisc.edu (Yung-Chang Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does NS work with "Green PC"?
Date: 6 Dec 1994 00:22:37 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Message-ID: <3c0asd$95s@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Hi,
Did anyone install NextStep on a "Green PC"? I am interested in buying a
new Pentium-90 to install NextStep V3.3, but it seems that some people got
into trouble in setting up on different mother board or other hardware spec.:(
Could anyone post their experiences? Thank you for help!
Yung-chang Chen
--
======================================
~ Yung-chang Chen (608)251-5826
c-OO yung-cha@cae.wisc.edu
- =====================
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Double-Headed VGA/NEXTSTEP
Date: 5 Dec 1994 16:46:47 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3c058n$h5g@cobber.cord.edu>
References: <D08xCL.HoG@xexos.com>
In article <D08xCL.HoG@xexos.com>, Mark Chamberlain <mark@xexos.com> wrote:
>We need a VGA card that is supported under NEXTSTEP and can drive multiple
>screens, either from the same card, or by slapping more cards in the machine.
>Does anyone have any pointers?
>
>The person that wrote the driver for one would sew up most of the financial
>marketplace... all of our customers are asking us for double-headed
>configurations.
>--
>Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
Assuming that NeXT's display server supports multiple heads, all miro
has to do is write the miroCrystal 8/16/32S cards' drivers to support
multiple heads. These cards already run on NEXTSTEP and they support
multiple head (via multiple cards) configurations on Windows, WinNT,
and OS/2.
I also heard a unconfirmed rumor that Elsa Winner cards will be supporting
multiple heads. I believe these cards will be 8MB VRAM cards.
--
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| Jonathan A. Doroin | I've seen Plan 9 on a NeXTStation |
| doroin@cobber.cord.edu | OSes: NeXTStep, Amoeba, FreeBSD |
| doroin@wormhole.cord.edu | my pc: DECpcXL Server running NeXTStep |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: BusLogic BT-946c?????
Message-ID: <1994Dec6.020911.28214@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 02:09:11 GMT
Is there a driver for this avail?
---
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk (David Andrew Knight)
Subject: Re: Double-Headed VGA/NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <D0Dxos.MH5@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
References: <D08xCL.HoG@xexos.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 10:41:15 GMT
In article <D08xCL.HoG@xexos.com>
mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes:
> We need a VGA card that is supported under NEXTSTEP and can drive multiple
> screens, either from the same card, or by slapping more cards in the machine.
> Does anyone have any pointers?
>
> The person that wrote the driver for one would sew up most of the financial
> marketplace... all of our customers are asking us for double-headed
> configurations.
> --
Hi,
We currently have a driver for an ISA card which runs under NS which supports
2 x 1024 x 768 x 16bpp. We would rather not ship it as performance is poor but the real estate size may make up for it. A PCI card is expected in around 6 weeks which will offer 2 x 1280 x 1024 x 8bpp or 2 x 1024 x 768 x 16bpp. Our driver will follow 7-10 days after receipt of that card.
---
Regards David Knight
OneStep Solutions plc
351 London Road Phone: (+44) 01702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (+44) 01702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
England (NeXTMail welcome)
United Kingdom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk (David Andrew Knight)
Subject: Re: ISDN and NEXTSTEP/Intel
Message-ID: <D0Dxz3.Mvq@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet
References: <3bjir8$57s@xmission.xmission.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 10:47:27 GMT
In article <3bjir8$57s@xmission.xmission.com>
kris@xmission.com (kris) writes:
> My area is due to get ISDN service in the early spring. I'd like to use my
> NEXTSTEP/Intel box to connect to my Internet service provider using ISDN,
> but I haven't heard of a NEXTSTEP/Intel-compatible ISDN adaptor. Does one
> yet exist?
>
> I know that a new or upcoming ZyXEL V.34 modem will be upgradeable to ISDN,
> but I'm neither sure if it'll work with NEXTSTEP/Intel, nor am I sure if it
> can deal with primary-rate bandwidth.
Hi,
You do not need a "NEXTSTEP" compatible unit as you can use an external ISDN Bridge/router which is IP or IP/IPX compatible. Try looking at the ASCEND pipeline 50 units which many of the US based Internet providers are now supporting. The units cost around $1500 and provide performance over a single 64Kbps channel of about 150Kbps (using compression) and can inverse multiplex over both channels to provide 300Kbps.
Email ASCEND at info@Ascend.COM or Phone: 510.769.6001
---
Regards David Knight
OneStep Solutions plc
351 London Road Phone: (+44) 01702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (+44) 01702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
England (NeXTMail welcome)
United Kingdom
From: hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New ZyXEL 28.8k modems, with ISDN! Drivers?
Date: 6 Dec 1994 15:14:14 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Sender: hoff@josbach (Holger Hoffstaette)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c1v46$iom@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
References: <3bsq43$4np@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> <3c0icf$8hk@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
In article <3c0icf$8hk@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>, rsingh@ix.netcom.com
(Rashpal Singh) writes:
>In <3bsq43$4np@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de
>(Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
>
>>[about new ZyXEL 28.8k/ISDN modems]
>
>Any idea what the street/retail price will be for this modem ? Thanks.
>
I just called a german distributor for ZyXEL and the trade-in price
for a 1496+ will be ~680 DM (~$400); the ISDN option will be a piggyback
board and will cost another ~300 DM (~$180). The person on the phone said
something about ~1300 DM (~$770) for a new modem. I guess US prices will
be cheaper, since you don't have to import them to/from Germany. :)
Given the fact that Filip L. has already set his eyes on these marvels
I think I will have ISDN soon.. :)
Holger
--
Holger Hoffstätte // [EMail sendTo: @"hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de" NeXTMail: YES];
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: caljouwr@cuug.ab.ca (Rob Caljouw)
Subject: Dial in/out problems
Message-ID: <D0DKpA.G6M@cuug.ab.ca>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 05:58:24 GMT
I am trying to attach a modem to a newly acquired NeXT slab.
My apologies if these have obvious answers but being new
to NeXT hardware I'm still learning.
The modem is a USR 14.4 fax/modem.
I can dial out OK on /dev/cua and if I set ttyda to "dialup on"
in ttys I can dial in OK, but I cannot seem to do both. When
getty is enabled on ttyda and I try to dial out all I get is:
/dev/cua: Device busy
link down
The same settings on my Intel machine work fine but I am new
to NeXT hardware and I assume I am missing something. I checked
the NeXTanswers and tried their suggestions but to no avail.
The slab is running NS 3.2.
One more quick question - Will this thing read/write 1/4" QIC tapes?
I have a 150MB 1/4" SCSI tape drive attached and the device is
recognized but "tar tvf /dev/nrst0" only gives the error:
st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x5 Sense Code = 0x0
Again I must be missing something.
Thanks in advance.
From: walkup@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu (John Walkup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need advice on NS platform purchase.
Date: 6 Dec 94 07:21:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Oklahoma (USA)
Message-ID: <walkup.786698501@phyast>
Summary: Need advice on NS platform purchase.
Keywords: computer, next
Can someone help me with some advice? I want to buy a new computer.
I plan to hook it up to my college department's Ethernet so that
the faculty and students can use it as well. So it needs to be
multi-tasking. But I also want it to run NS since I plan to
use some softare I wrote in my classes. (Fast graphics are also a must.)
I can't spend any more than $20,000 (roughly) but I can get an educational
discount for most systems. What is the fastest, best multi-tasking
machine available for this kind of money?
I was thinking Sparc-20 but NS isn't available for Sparcs as far as I know.
I realize that the info I gave out is sketchy. Sorry.
E-mail replies are fine. Thanks.
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: NS driver for ATI mach64 with 4meg
Message-ID: <1994Dec6.145934.2794@bMD.com>
Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (314-872-2907)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:59:34 GMT
Is there a driver avail for this card?
---
Kevin Solie
Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
From: benji@haven.boston.ma.us (Benjamin Cline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT monitor <-> cable connectors
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 6 Dec 1994 16:07:53 GMT
Organization: Sanctuary
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c228p$htp@xensei3.xensei.com>
Keywords: monitor cable connectors
Are the D-shell connectors used on the NeXT monitor <-> cube cables generally
available? I've got a bunch of cubes without monitor cables, that I'd like to
get working. Does anyone know a vendor for these connectors? Anyone have some
spare cables they would like to sell (cheaply?)?
thanks,
benji
--
Benjamin R. Cline Large Furry Mammal benji@haven.boston.ma.us
"I will not be stamped, spindled, folded or multilated.
I am not a letter, I am a free man!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Re: Need advice on NS platform purchase.
Message-ID: <bbutlerD0ECtt.7KM@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <walkup.786698501@phyast>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 16:08:17 GMT
John Walkup (walkup@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu) wrote:
> Can someone help me with some advice? I want to buy a new computer.
> I plan to hook it up to my college department's Ethernet so that
> the faculty and students can use it as well. So it needs to be
> multi-tasking. But I also want it to run NS since I plan to
> use some softare I wrote in my classes. (Fast graphics are also a must.)
> I can't spend any more than $20,000 (roughly) but I can get an educational
> discount for most systems. What is the fastest, best multi-tasking
> machine available for this kind of money?
> I was thinking Sparc-20 but NS isn't available for Sparcs as far as I know.
> I realize that the info I gave out is sketchy. Sorry.
> E-mail replies are fine. Thanks.
I've had a lot of experience with NS on Next hardware, and I just obtained
NS for Intel. All I can say is Next hardware is orders of magnitude better
than these PC junk boxes. It's a shame a company can only make money
by building crappy little underpowered hardware.
If you want NS, I suggest you purchase a system from scratch with that
intention. NS will work with a lot of standard PC hardware, but it works
much better with higher performance stuff.
Example: It works with VGA, but it is slow and you only get 2 bit grayscale.
You also get low resolution, so even if you have a big screen (as I do) you
only get the equivalent of 640x480. To get the full benefit you'll want to
get a linear mapped video card.
Go to the hardware compatibility guide, which you can get from:
http://digifix.digifix.com/
Buy only hardware that is listed in the guide, or which you know by reputation
will work. If given a choice, get higher performance stuff. I'd recommend
PCI, which is supposed to be supported in 3.3. Stay away from ISA except for
serial and parallel ports. Also, I had some trouble with serial mice. You
might be better off with a bus mouse; this will also save a serial port
(you only get 2, and a serial mice will use up one).
NS is a great system, but I think they've priced themselves out of a market.
The only people who might look at it at the current price are those
considering Solaris for x86, which is similarly priced. Last time I checked,
Solaris for x86 wasn't flying off the shelves. The educational discounts
bring it within reason, but unfortunately most of us don't qualify.
--
-------
Bryan Butler
bbutler@netcom.com
From: andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu (Andrew Barger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP monitor flicker?
Date: 6 Dec 1994 17:25:31 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <3c26qb$aj8@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Sorry if this question has already been posted or discussed, I don't read
hardware usually. Anyways, I've been working on an HP 712/80 with a 20"
Sony monitor, now running NEXTSTEP. I have noticed that when a terminal
window with a lot of text in it is scrolled, the rest of the screen
flickers perceptibly. I didn't notice this under HP's interface (whatever
it was called), and I wondered if (a) it was a problem with NEXTSTEP, (b)
is there something configured wrong, (c) cables hooked up incorrectly,
etc. Any comments would be appreciated.
Andrew Barger
andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bbutler@netcom.com (Bryan Butler)
Subject: Re: Need advice on NS platform purchase.
Message-ID: <bbutlerD0ECy3.7rs@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <walkup.786698501@phyast>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 16:10:51 GMT
Forgot that NS is available for HP-PA RISC. This is probably the system
of choice if you're willing to purchase higher class hardware. Given
that you're looking at Sparc 20's, I think this is the case.
--
-------
Bryan Butler
OSU Alumni (Go Cowboys!)
bbutler@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@salab1.psych.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: where can I get a NeXT fixed?
Summary: NeXT Black Hardware Service
Message-ID: <Dec6.033528.63387@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: david r. hill
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 03:35:28 GMT
References: <3bvdia$2mm@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Organization: The U of Calgary
Keywords: hardware repair black-next
In article <3bvdia$2mm@hermes.dna.mci.com>,
Alex Nghiem <alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com> wrote:
>Hello there:
>
>My primary NeXT will not power on and I would like to know where I can get
>the turbo slab fixed. For months now, I haven't been able to turn it off
>or reboot (Command ~ and Command Command ~ didn't work - neither did the
>various buttons on the login panel). Once the swapfile became uncontrollable,
>I physically pulled the plug to turn off the machine.
>
>Well, my sins have caught up with me. This turbo slab now won't even power
>on. I would appreciate any of the following info:
>
>1. Where can I find a place to service this?
>2. If it's the power supply, is it something which I can do myself?
>
>Any other relevant info would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Alex
I pulled this off the net many moons ago. It should provide the information
you need. As you see, I am not the author.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford)
Subject: Black Hardware Support
Summary: Update on Hardware Support - Black Hardware
Keywords: hardware support purchase repair exchange
FYI places to purchase/exchange/repair NeXT Black Hardware.
Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 04:49:40 GMT
Lines: 29
1) Bell Atlantic 1-800-499-NEXT (6398)
2) Pixelated Technologies 1-800-749-3563 & 310-459-6831
3) Dancing Bear Enterprizes 303 479-9101
Information from infobot@dancingbear.com. Use <index>
or <catalog> as the subject for document list or a catalog.
4) Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley,
CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
415-381-9556--fax
To keep those users interested in maintaining/purchasing/exchanging
their black hardware well informed, could anyone with experiences
with the above companies please post ( or reply to me ) any information
that they have. If there are there any other companies/individuals
selling/exchanging/repairing NeXT black hardware, please post and
send me there phone/address.
Thanks, David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
Please post the replies. Thanks for input from other motorola fans.
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--
David R. Hill, CS Dept., U. Calgary | Imagination is more
Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 403-220-6315| important than knowledge.
hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fx: 403-282-6778| (Albert Einstein)
NeXTMail: hill@trillium.ab.ca (Preferred) | Kill your television!
From: laire@taifun.uni-paderborn.de (Ralph Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: M68060? - Upgrade for slabs?
Date: 6 Dec 1994 22:36:27 +0100
Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
Message-ID: <3c2lgr$hmr@taifun.uni-paderborn.de>
References: <3bp3jn$i08@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> <3c028a$lhj@digdug.pencom.com>
robin@pencom.com (Robin D. Wilson) writes:
>In article <3bp3jn$i08@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A.
>Barhorst) writes:
>:Hi,
>: What happen to the person who was working on the 060 upgrade. Is
>:it possible to do, or did the legal problems bog it down, or is it not
>:technically feasible. I thought I heard it was being benchmarked. Does
>:Motorolla make a clocked doubled 040 that can be plugged into the slab?
>:Thanks!
>The 040 that comes in the slab already _is_ "clock doubled". The NeXTstation
>has a 25/50Mhz 040, and the Turbo has a 33/66Mhz 040.
When does this stop ? Probably never.
The 040 isn't clocked doubled like a DX2.
Here the reference:
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From: mattp@godiva (Matthew Pressly H3-289)
Subject: Re: 68040 & 2X clock: clock-doubled?
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Ludis Langens (ludis@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <CqFKCB.D31@oakhill.sps.mot.com> mattp@godiva (Matthew Pressly H3-289) writes:
: >The 68040 has two clock inputs: pclk and bclk. bclk runs at whatever
: >frequency the part is rated at. E.g. 25Mhz parts use a 25MHz bclk.
: >pclk is required to be twice the bclk frequency, so a 25MHz part
: >uses a 50MHz pclk. Internal operation is still based on 25MHz --
: >instruction executes at a rate of one instruction (assuming single-
: >cycle execution) per 40ns. The 2x pclk is needed only for internal
: >clock generation.
: There was a debate about this in one of the mac groups a while ago -
: nothing conclusive was decided. Because you are from Mototola, do you
: have inside information to confirm or deny this?
Since I'm not Motorola's spokesperson, I am trying to keep within the
limits in this discussion of what is public information about this
processor.
: A few floating point instructions take nnn.5 cycles to execute. In
: other words they take an odd number of pclk cycles. I don't know if this
: half cycle can cause the integer pipeline to adjust instruction
: boundaries by the same amount or if the next instruction will be issued
: in sync with bclk. The timings for FDIV imply computing a single bit
: of quotient every pclk cycle. And finally the timings for FMUL imply
: that the 8 by 67 multiplier is cycled at pclk.
I've gotten more clarification on this. For the FPU, the pclk cycle (2x
the rated speed of the part) is the fundamental cycle. An operation will
always complete in some multiple of a pclk cycle. This is why floating
point instructions sometimes require nnn.5 cycles to complete. An example,
as you said, is the FDIV, which takes 37.5 cycles to execute.
Integer instructions work as I described previously. Internal clocks are
derived from both pclk and bclk to produce multiple clocks, but all these
clocks have the same period as bclk, although they have a different duty
cycle. Data can move from one storage element to the next in half of a
pclk cycle, but (1) this transfer won't take place again until one full
bclk cycle later, and (2) the simplest operations, like register-
to-register moves (e.g. move d0,d1) require a minimum of one bclk cycle to
execute. In other words, multiple internal transfers will occur (up to 4)
in a bclk cycle, but it takes a full bclk cycle for one basic operation to
be completed, and these internal transfers, although they occur at higher
than bclk speed only repeat with bclk frequency.
So, for all practical purposes, you could view the 68040 as having a 2x
bclk fpu and a 1x bclk integer unit. This is really a moot point, though
because clock speed alone doesn't determine the how fast the part will run
code -- to determine how fast a given piece of code will execute, you
always have to multiply the length of the period of the reference clock
(the one to which instruction execution times are referenced) by the
average (over the piece of code in question) number of cycle per
instruction, so clock speed alone never determines the effective speed
of the part, although it may help sell parts.
I believe some companies have put divide by 2 circuits in the clock
generation logic for the sole purpose of being able to quote a higher clock
speed, but without giving any higher performance. From a practical
standpoint, this hurts those who try to use those parts because it makes it
harder for them to generate a high-quality clock signal for the part and
meet duty cycle and rise/fall time specifications. This is not what
Motorola does on the 68040.
: Ludis Langens ludis@netcom.com
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need advice on NS platform purchase.
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:51:32 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4itA34e00WBOE7LAZC@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <walkup.786698501@phyast>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Dec-94 Need advice on NS
platform .. by John Walkup@phyast.nhn.u
> Can someone help me with some advice? I want to buy a new computer.
> I plan to hook it up to my college department's Ethernet so that
> the faculty and students can use it as well. So it needs to be
> multi-tasking. But I also want it to run NS since I plan to
> use some softare I wrote in my classes. (Fast graphics are also a must.)
> I can't spend any more than $20,000 (roughly) but I can get an educational
> discount for most systems. What is the fastest, best multi-tasking
> machine available for this kind of money?
Try a mid- to high-end HP workstation with 32+ MB of RAM (64 MB would be good).
The HP 715/100 (SPECfp92= 137, SPECint92= 100) with '20"
1280x1024/HyperCRX-24Z Graphics' should run you around $15,000 with a
decent educational discount.
The HP 712/80 (SPECfp92= 122, SPECint92= 84) should offer almost
comparable performance at around half the price, while the HP 735/125
will provide about the highest performance you can get on a desktop
machine (SPECfp92= 201, SPECint92= 135, though this machine might strain
your $20K budget).
-Chuck
PS: These SPEC numbers and machine types were from a July list of HP
machines; hopefully, someone from HP will chime up if newer
configurations are available or if my numbers are wrong.
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
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AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: root@moses (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ISDN
Date: 7 Dec 1994 00:04:03 GMT
Organization: Heinrich Heine Universitaet Duesseldorf
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>Well, actually a few manufacturers I know of have considered but then
>abandoned providing a NeXT driver.
Ich habe auf der Messe letzte Woche mit einem Entwickler von Miro
ueber das Thema Treiber fuer NSI gesprochen. Er bestaetigte mir, dass
eine Entwicklung im Bereich des moeglichen waere, nur bisher noch
keine Anfragen bestehen wuerden.
Also schreibt mal eure Meinung (Er liest diese group).
Gruss
Markus
From: m94dwa@albireo.tdb.uu.se (David Wallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI-2 adapters for VL-BUS?
Date: 6 Dec 1994 21:01:25 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala University, Sweden
Message-ID: <3c2jf5$s4o@columba.udac.uu.se>
I am currently using a VL-BUS system with an adaptec 1542C controller.
And I have been, for a longer period of time, thinking about
switching it for a VL-BUS SCSI-2 adapter. Now the question:
what card to buy?
I am looking for one with cache, but I haven't seen one that have both
VL-BUS and a driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2.
other under consideration:
adaptec 284x
buslogic 445S
buslogic 445C
what should I choose?
//David Wallin.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New GUI SCSI Tool! (Was Re: Turn on HD cache)
Date: 6 Dec 1994 09:49:39 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
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This post is from Christopher Wolf. He's having problems with posting so
here it is from me :) Looks like a really nice app!
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 18:23:03 -0500
From: Christopher Wolf <chris%MilleniumFalcon@cu-dialup-0507.cit.cornell.edu>
To: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Subject: Re: Turn on HD cache
Reply-To: chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu
Could you please post this response for me... I can't post news easily from my
site at the moment:
> While Im at it...It would be nice to have a graphical DRIVE.app that does
> what sdformat, formatter (disktab wise), and cache manipulation.
> Perhaps I'm dreamn, but ya never know what santa might bring.... ;-)
Ask and ye shall receive. I'm VERY close to releasing the SCSI app which
Darcy mentioned in the last post. The application has a graphical interface
on-line help, and works on both black and white hardware. Some of its
features are:
1) Displays Inquiry, Mode Sense and Read Capacity data for any
device including drives, tapes, CD-ROMs, etc. complete with
english interpretations of what most of the parameters mean.
2) Formats disk drives and allows specification of sector size
and interleave values for drives that support it. Can also
instruct drives that support it to perform media-certification
and rebuild their GList for error mapping.
3) Displays and toggles drive read and write cache status.
4) Performs low-level SCSI bench-marking functions for comparing
drive performance at the hardware/driver level (rather than at
the filesystem level.)
Look for it soon on ftp sites and announced in c.s.n.announce.
- Chris
From: barry@nacm.com (Barry Lustig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Summary of Memory Question
Date: 6 Dec 1994 13:28:52 -0800
Organization: Nicholas-Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3c2l2k$27a@portmgr1.nacm.com>
I just wanted to quickly summarize the responses I received on my
question about a 3.2 Intel machine not recognizing more than 64MB of
RAM. Mach is asking the BIOS for the amount of memory in the machine.
The BIOS is responding incorrectly. To get around this, boot with
memsize=139264 or fix the "Kernel Flags" entry in the System.config
Instance0.table file. I've been told that this problem is fixed in
3.3.
thanks again,
barry
From: barry@nacm.com (Barry Lustig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Strange kernel panics
Date: 6 Dec 1994 13:38:35 -0800
Organization: Nicholas-Applegate Capital Management, San Diego, CA
Message-ID: <3c2lkr$28t@portmgr1.nacm.com>
We have been experimenting with Intel's Premiere II/PCI 90Mhz
Pentium machines. These machines are running the 1.00.05.BB0 BIOS.
Each machine has 136MB RAM, an ELSA WINNER2000-4MB PCI graphics
controller running ELSA's 1.20 drivers, a Microsoft Sound Card, a
Cogent eMASTER+ EM960 PCI ethernet board running the driver from
NeXTAnswers and an Adaptec 1542C card (which currently doesn't have
anything attached to it).
We have been seeing panics on the order of 2-3 per day. Each of
the users with these machines runs applications that have a very high
display update rate and make heavy use of the network. Each machine
has a single port on an ethernet switch device, so they are getting,
more or less, 100% of the bandwidth of an ethernet.
The 3 panics that I have managed to get panic messages for (they
never show up in the log files) died with:
1) panic: (Cpu 0) pmap_deallocate_mappings
2) panic: (Cpu 0) pmap_deallocate_mappings unwire
2) panic: (Cpu 0) failed instruction exception
I keep trying to get a debugger attached to the kernels of the
panic'ed machines, but I get no response.
Does anyone have any ideas or pointers?
Thanks,
barry
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Strange kernel panics
Date: 6 Dec 1994 22:38:11 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3c3ho3$bj1@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <3c2lkr$28t@portmgr1.nacm.com>
Barry Lustig (barry@nacm.com) wrote:
: We have been experimenting with Intel's Premiere II/PCI 90Mhz
: Pentium machines. These machines are running the 1.00.05.BB0 BIOS.
: We have been seeing panics on the order of 2-3 per day. Each of
: Does anyone have any ideas or pointers?
Yes. Upgrade your BIOS to a later revision. It's available on the Intel
BBS, but I have one I may well put on ftp.cs.orst.edu if enough people
want it.
I and others had similar problems with our Intel Premiere PCI 2.0 /
Pentium 90s earlier this year. My machine's problems went away completely
with an upgrade to BIOS revision 1.00.10. I suspect yours will do the same.
...........................................kris
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From: "Kharim Hogan" <kharim@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: How to fax with a GVC 14.4 fax/modem???
Message-ID: <1994Dec7.010419.18822@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 01:04:13 -0500
Hi,
Can anyone please help me out? I'm trying to get my GVC 14.4 fax/modem
to actually send (and receive would be nice too!) faxes. I used to use
a ZyXEL modem and never had any problems (I also have the NXFax software)
but now I'm trying to use a GVC and can get as far as getting the modem
to make the call and connect to a fax machine but then it immediately
disconnects. Do I need a special driver (or the equivalent of a printer
description file) for this type of modem? In PrintManager.app, there are
only two options that come up for configuring a fax modem, the HSD and
the Interfax modem. If I select HSD, absolutely nothing happens. With
Interfax configured, I can do as above, connect but can't send since it
doesn't hold the line.
Do I need to get a special file for the GVC or configure something that
I haven't? If anyone knows, please help...
Many thanks,
Kharim Hogan
Date: 07 Dec 1994 09:48:00 +0100
From: kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=)
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> Also schreibt mal eure Meinung (Er liest diese group).
Also, lieber unbekannter miro-Entwickler: Ich suche seit
geraumer Zeit verzweifelt einen Treiber für Nextstep und
deutsches Euro-ISDN. Zur Zeit behelfe ich mir mit einer
Extradose und einer Teles-Dummkarte, aber ich würde viel lieber
eine richtige Karte unter Native Nextstep einsetzen.
Oder kurz zusammengefasst: Will Treiber haben! Looooos!
Kristian
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sure PGP doesn't use any floating point calculations."
-- Hugh Miller in "Phil Zimmermann on Pentium Bug"
From: hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ISDN
Date: 7 Dec 1994 12:40:49 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Sender: hoff@josbach (Holger Hoffstaette)
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In article <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>,
kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=) writes:
>[ISDN mal wieder]
>Oder kurz zusammengefasst: Will Treiber haben! Looooos!
Ich bin mir da nicht so sicher, nachdem ich die Preise fuer die
miro-ISDN-Sachen gesehen habe. Ansonsten empfehle ich dazu auch
comp.sys.next.hardware, den Thread ueber das demnaechst erscheinende
ISDN-faehige ZyXEL. Infos gibt's umsonst per Teflon bei Xenologics in
Koeln. Filip (der Belgier) hat schon gesagt, dass er dafuer einen Treiber
fuer den Parallelport machen will. Konkurrenz belebt das Geschaeft! :-)
Holgi
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From: alxs@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Sparkowsky)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: ISDN
Date: 7 Dec 1994 14:50:15 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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High,
hoff@josbach.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) writes:
>> [...]
>ISDN-faehige ZyXEL. Infos gibt's umsonst per Teflon bei Xenologics in
>Koeln. Filip (der Belgier) hat schon gesagt, dass er dafuer einen Treiber
>fuer den Parallelport machen will. Konkurrenz belebt das Geschaeft! :-)
Alles schoen und gut, aber du kannst dann doch hoechstens SLIP ueber das ZyXel
fahren...
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From: rgc@jujube.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI-2 adapters for VL-BUS?
Date: 7 Dec 1994 13:28:31 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <3c4d9v$7h2@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <3c2jf5$s4o@columba.udac.uu.se>
David Wallin (m94dwa@albireo.tdb.uu.se) wrote:
: I am currently using a VL-BUS system with an adaptec 1542C controller.
: And I have been, for a longer period of time, thinking about
: switching it for a VL-BUS SCSI-2 adapter. Now the question:
: what card to buy?
: I am looking for one with cache, but I haven't seen one that have both
: VL-BUS and a driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2.
: other under consideration:
: adaptec 284x
: buslogic 445S
: buslogic 445C
: what should I choose?
I chose the 445C (the 445S is discontinued). I had a 1542C.
Here's the performance difference (using iozone):
ALR Evolution V (P60) with 40MB RAM
Micropolis 4110 with Adaptec 1542c
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...71.273688 seconds
Reading the file...30.450088 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
588478 bytes/second for writing the file
1377435 bytes/second for reading the file
Fujitsu 2263 with Adaptec 1542c
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...118.013214 seconds
Reading the file...72.854759 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
355409 bytes/second for writing the file
575707 bytes/second for reading the file
Micropolis 4110 with BusLogic 445C
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...70.050909 seconds
Reading the file...22.736977 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
598750 bytes/second for writing the file
1844706 bytes/second for reading the file
Fujitsu 2263 with BusLogic 445C
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...117.770313 seconds
Reading the file...74.559772 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
356142 bytes/second for writing the file
562542 bytes/second for reading the file
NeXTstation Turbo with 32MB RAM
Fujitsu 2263
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...54.693479 seconds
Reading the file...133.355643 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
766874 bytes/second for writing the file
314520 bytes/second for reading the file
Dell XPS-90 (P90) with 32MB RAM
Micropolis 4110 with NCR PCI SCSI controller (825) (Talus drivers 1.02)
Writing the 40 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...71.938343 seconds
Reading the file...14.566971 seconds
IOZONE performance measurements:
583041 bytes/second for writing the file
2879324 bytes/second for reading the file
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University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hårseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Streamer tape/DAT ?
Date: 7 Dec 1994 14:35:58 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <3c4dnu$7hu@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>
I am considering buying a Tandberg Data 1.2 GB streamertape unit. I
have NS 3.2/FIP, BT445C. Will this config. work ? Will it work with
the drivers from Next ? Are there any problems with connecting a
streamertape to BT445C ?
Some people say streamertape is more relyable than DAT, what is your
experience ?
Arne
From: jan@altus.no (Jan Bratbak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel EtherExpress PRO 10/100 PCI
Date: 7 Dec 1994 14:57:13 GMT
Organization: UniNett
Message-ID: <3c4ig9$qs5@ratatosk.uninett.no>
Awhile ago there was a discussion around the Intel EtherExpress PRO network
cards. Could somebody recap the availability of card/driver and any practical
experience with the card, please.
Jan
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From: roffel@biw.cube.de (Lee Roffel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Double-Headed VGA/NEXTSTEP
Date: 7 Dec 1994 12:11:53 GMT
Organization: BIW Systemhaus
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In article <3c058n$h5g@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon
Doroin) writes:
> In article <D08xCL.HoG@xexos.com>, Mark Chamberlain <mark@xexos.com>
wrote:
> >We need a VGA card that is supported under NEXTSTEP and can drive
multiple
> >screens, either from the same card, or by slapping more cards in the
machine.
> >Does anyone have any pointers?
>>>>>>>>>> >--
> >Mark Chamberlain +44 171 237 4535
>
> Assuming that NeXT's display server supports multiple heads, all miro
> has to do is write the miroCrystal 8/16/32S cards' drivers to support
> multiple heads. These cards already run on NEXTSTEP and they support
> multiple head (via multiple cards) configurations on Windows, WinNT,
> and OS/2.
The hardware config for the Miro cards don't allow simultaneous writing to
the frame-buffer... and will therefore (until now) not work with the
window server for NeXT.
(I am working with a pair of cards that 'do' allow this.. and have had
some limited success... and will post the results as soon as I can
resolve an address confilct)
>
> I also heard a unconfirmed rumor that Elsa Winner cards will be
supporting
> multiple heads. I believe these cards will be 8MB VRAM cards.
> --
>
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> | Jonathan A. Doroin | I've seen Plan 9 on a NeXTStation
|
ciao...
.. Lee
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From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: putting together a system....
Date: 7 Dec 1994 13:35:01 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3c4dm5$d7i@metro.atlanta.com>
I am in the process of putting together a system to run NeXTStep. Does
anyone know where I can get a tower case that will support a mother board
that has holes pre-drilled for PS/2-style connectors for the keyboard and
mouse? I can only find cases that are drilled for the AT-style keyboard
connector. I would hate to use up a serial port just to run a mouse.
thanks in advance for any pointers.
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
Date: 07 Dec 1994 16:36:00 +0100
From: kris@black.schulung.netuse.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?=)
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Message-ID: <5bOS-F4onrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>
References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>
<5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>
<3c4agh$8a4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
Subject: Re: ISDN
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Distribution: world
Organization: Orga-what?
> Ich bin mir da nicht so sicher, nachdem ich die Preise fuer
> die miro-ISDN-Sachen gesehen habe.
Well, currently I am using the usual combo featuring either
MS-DOS/Teles/ISPA/pcroute, MS-DOS/Teles/cfos or
MS-DOS/Teles/cfos/cfostalk (The last setup is forwarding my
calls as MIME encoded .au-Files to a remote account if I am not
at home). It is just that these applications are currently
running exclusively and not parallel and I have to reboot
manually to change the setup. This is a pain in the ass.
I am willing to spend as much as 2 kDM for a solution featuring
an active card plus necessary drivers for IP and "modem style"
connections plus API/objc kit and documentation. Personally I
do not care if it is an external device or a plug in card, as
long as it is possible to use both D-channels independently or
bundled.
> Infos gibt's umsonst per
> Teflon bei Xenologics in Koeln. Filip (der Belgier) hat schon
> gesagt, dass er dafuer einen Treiber fuer den Parallelport
> machen will.
Do you have the number of Xenologics, Cologne? Or better, do
they have an email address?
Kristian
--
Kristian Köhntopp, Harmsstraße 98, 24114 Kiel, +49 431 676689
"I talked to Phil this evening. Direct quote: "I am 99.99999512%
sure PGP doesn't use any floating point calculations."
-- Hugh Miller in "Phil Zimmermann on Pentium Bug"
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Golden and disk performance
Date: 7 Dec 1994 11:02:02 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3c4taq$18r@xmission.xmission.com>
I'm interested to know if NEXTSTEP 3.3 SCSI performance has increased since
3.3 pr2. Specifically, I'm interested in the performance of the Adaptec
2940.
OS/2 Warp, NT 3.5, etc., all scream with this card. It's going to be really
interesting to find out if NEXTSTEP 3.3 will do the same.
.................................kris
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Kick onto 1024b/s HD on NSi...
Date: 7 Dec 1994 13:31:49 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c4v2l$86h@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Does anyone know anyway to make a 'kick boot' disk (either floppy or
small HD) so that I can kick onto my NS HD that is formatted at
1024b/s?
Since Intel machines cannot directly boot to anything other
than a 512b/s HD...and since I dont want to type the 'bsd()mach_kernel
rootdev=sd0' command everytime I want to get into NS...I would like a floppy
or a small HD kick disk that will automatically do the rootdev=sd0 onto the
1024b/s drive.
Is the above possible? There has to be SOME way to boot onto 1024b/s
or 4096b/s drives on intel hardware!
Thanks for any help
Later, John
From: Skippy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ********
Date: 7 Dec 1994 08:22:17 GMT
Organization: Sirius Connections
Message-ID: <3c3rbp$b95@sun.sirius.com>
References: <1994Dec5.222435.11727@ttinews.tti.com>
In article <1994Dec5.222435.11727@ttinews.tti.com> anthony@ipanema.TTI.COM
(Wendell Anthony) writes:
> Has anyone connected a 400dpi next printer to a macintosh. I have both
> machines and I want to share the printer (outside of networking).
>
> Does the next printer engine similar to a laser writer? What kind of
> cable would I need?
A very expensive one with a NeXt machine attached :-)
The NeXT 400 dpi printers don't have a Postscript RIP inside; they
produce their images through the processing power of the machine they
are attached to. Similar to a 'dumb' Apple printer (non-postscript)
that is driven by the Mac's Quickdraw processing.
Black NeXT printers will only work with black NeXT machines - to anyone
else they are useless.
From: rhm@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Where's the NS3.3 HCG?
Date: 7 Dec 1994 14:02:48 -0500
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <3c50so$5n4@oclc.org>
Now that NeXT has posted to c.s.n.announce to tell us that NS 3.3
is shipping (Yea!!!), I hope it won't be long before the new Hardware
Compatibility Guide arrives on NeXTanswers....
Robin
~
--
Robin Hermance-Moore, Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section
OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468
6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702
rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: lestat@ctt.bellcore.com (David Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.2 on G2K?
Date: 7 Dec 1994 15:56:18 GMT
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore) RRC
Message-ID: <3c4lv2$4kv@athos.cc.bellcore.com>
Hello:
I was trying to install NS 3.2 on a Gateway 486 DX266V.
Unfortunately, at the middle of the installation, it has a
kernel panic.
The dump looks like this:
System Panic:
Registering KmDevice0
rootdev 300, howto 0
Registering: Com0
Registering: Beep
Registering: VGADisplay0
Start=0, len=2, fs=/
panic (CPU 0) alloccq: map corrupted
panic NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder): mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RCi386/RELEASE_I386
Kernel Panic exception (6,3,1)
Waiting for remote debugging connection.
This happens after installing 4% of the files.
Header was: templates.bproj to Preferences.app
Anyone have ideas, suggestions?
BTW, Hardware is:
NeXT 3.2
16 Meg RAM
486 DX2-66 VESA
Etherlink III
Adapter 1542CF
ATI Mach 32 VLB card...
--
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David Gonzalez lestat@ctt.bellcore.com (Work) |
From: vijay@gels.mit.edu (Vijay S. Pande)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Megapixel display on a Mac?
Date: 7 Dec 1994 22:13:19 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3c5c1v$7fd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: Megapixel monitor, Macintosh
Does anyone know if you can hook up a NeXT megapixel display up to a Mac?
Specifically, I have a Powermac 6100/AV and a spare NeXT monitor. Thanks
in advance,
Vijay
vijay@gels.mit.edu
From: Nick Walker <njwalker@x4u2>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP and Matrox graphics cards
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 09:59:45 +0100
Organization: DESY
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.941206095649.22806A-100000@x4u2>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Anybody know of a NSFIP driver for the Matrox graphics cards? Or if one
is being planned in the forseeable future?? According to the NS hardware
guide they are not supported.
Thanks in advance,
Nick Walker
====
Nicholas J Walker
DESY, Germany
From: sawtelle@stonecutter.com (Don Sawtelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: what signal powers on a NeXT printer?
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 15:36:31 PDT
Organization: Stonecutter Software
Message-ID: <01050131.gn1nv7@mariposa.stonecutter.com>
I bought a used NeXT printer with a known-failed power supply. It's
with a (non-NeXT-enabled) friend, who has fixed the power supply --
failed (open circuit) regulator and blown fuse -- but I'd like to at
least verify that it powers on before lugging it back here to try it
with my NeXTstation. Given the failure of the power supply could have
damaged other circuitry.
It's my understanding that a NeXT printer doesn't power on until npd
runs. Is it just some 5v line that's pulled high, or pulled low, that
causes the printer to power on? If it's that simple, and someone knows
which line it is, we could test it before it leaves the shop.
Thanks,
Don Sawtelle
Stonecutter Software
internet: sawtelle@stonecutter.com
PS: I only just now changed my site's news feed to receive this group, so
it'd be great if anyone who posts a reply could make a cc: direct to my
email address. In case I erred. Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: don@trg.saic.com (Don Mierzeski)
Distribution: world
Followup-To:
Organization: SAIC, Technology Research Group, San Diego, CA
Subject: Internal FAX Modems for Intel/NeXT
Keywords:
Message-ID: <35567543@MVB.SAIC.COM>
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 1994 22:51:37 GMT
Does anyone know if there is a compatable INTERNAL modem
for NeXT running on PC's preferrably one around the 14.4
speed range?
Please reply here or directly to don@trg.saic.com
thanx
don
From: rwagner@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Ron David Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC info
Date: 8 Dec 1994 01:47:56 GMT
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/638-4133)
Message-ID: <3c5okc$gts@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
I'm wondering if NeXTstep is compatible with NEC UltraLite Versa S series
Notebook computers? Does anybody have any info on this?
Thanks in advance..
Ron
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NeXTStep on Black AND White!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sdouglas@echonyc.com (sdouglas)
Subject: HELP!! ??INSTALL ADAPTEC DRVR UPDATE ON FLOPPY??
Message-ID: <1994Dec8.032354.21834@alw.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 03:23:54 GMT
Hi all,
I need to get NeXTStep installed on a machine with an Adaptec 1542CF
SCSI host adapter.
I know that I need to put the Adaptec driver update on a floppy so that
the installation utility can load it... however when I do this the
installation utility never finds the driver!
If this is a FAQ please give me a URL for the appropriate document.
Please send any replies via e-mail.
TIA
Scott Douglass
sdouglas@echonyc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Subject: Info on Turbo slab color monitor wanted
Message-ID: <D0F0rs.4K1@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 00:45:28 GMT
We have a few color turbo slabs with bad monitors. We have found a company
that claimed to be able to fix NeXT monitors for a reasonable price.
As it turns out they don't seem to know a NeXT from an Apple IIe, right now
they are trying to find out what they can about the monitor so that they can
try to fix it.
Can anyone tell me the resolution, scan rate, etc. of a monitor for the Color
Turbo Slab? None of the docs we have around here have the specs for the
monitor. Thanks.
--
Karl Hakimian
hakimian@eecs.wsu.edu
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 600dpi 11x17 inch Color Laser Printer for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 8 Dec 1994 06:56:42 GMT
Organization: SFSC
Message-ID: <3c6ana$8i6@maple.enet.net>
References: <1994Dec7.184053.15877@pcp.ca>
In article <1994Dec7.184053.15877@pcp.ca>, Wespestad_Eric@pcp.ca (Eric Wespestad) says:
>
>Does anybody know of a good 11 x 17 inch plain paper color laser printer
>that is supported under NEXTSTEP with at least 600dpi resolution? It
>should ideally output more than 8 pages per minute, and cost less than
>$3000 (is this unrealistic?). I would be interested to hear about
>non-color printers in the same configuration too.
As far as the size of printer goes, I believe Printer Works (don't have their number
but they're in the east bay (510 area code) sez they sell Printers that
workk with Next (11x17, dunno if they're colour).
Give them a try or maybe try the next HP Laserjet 4 colour.
From: lestat@ctt.bellcore.com (David Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 on G2K?
Date: 7 Dec 1994 17:34:39 GMT
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore) RRC
Message-ID: <3c4rnf$4kv@athos.cc.bellcore.com>
References: <3c4lv2$4kv@athos.cc.bellcore.com>
David Gonzalez (lestat@ctt.bellcore.com) wrote:
: Hello:
: I was trying to install NS 3.2 on a Gateway 486 DX266V.
: Unfortunately, at the middle of the installation, it has a
: kernel panic.
Update.....
Well, I seem to have fixed that problem, it had
to do with the video port being used.
However, I have a more severe problem now.
Sometimes, when I move the mouse, the screen seems to flicker
and the mouse pointer won't move from the upper right hand corner
of the screen.
It's like there is a conflict between the mouse and
something else, the strange thing is that the mouse is a PS/2 mouse
just like the keyboard.
This caused a kernel panic and when moving the mouse, the
keyboard driver would complaint.
Any suggestions?
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Bellcore Secure Communications and Services Group |
RRC 1-J214 |------------------------------------------|
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Piscataway, NJ 08854 | not speak for Bellcore. |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2512A 230MB Magneto Optical problems
Message-ID: <1994Dec5.234815.9630@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <3b6189$4s2@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> <1994Nov30.185207.20974@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> <3bm3ba$3jb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 23:48:15 GMT
wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) writes:
>In article <1994Nov30.185207.20974@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>,
>Willem van Schaik <schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> wrote:
>>smurp@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Shawn Murphy) writes:
>>
>>>Has anybody had any luck getting the Fujitsu 230 MB MO working with black
>>>hardware?
>>
>>Yes, I bought one too. My only problem was that the first unit
>>I received was a defective one. But the replacement works perfectly.
>>
>>DIP switch = 1 2 3 4 5 6
>> ON OFF ON OFF ON OFF
>>
>>I'm using the unit with a NeXTstation non-turbo running NS 3.0.
>Does it matter if the MO is MAC version or PC version??
Well, if we are both talking about _external_ units, as far as I know
all units (bare bone, PC, Mac, Notebook) are all 1 M2512A-EXT, plus some
additional stuff like specific SCSI card, etc. which you won't use when
you connect the drive to a NeXT. Further you use SW2 to select between
Mac mode and non-Mac mode. I have Mac-mode disabled.
Willem
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From: guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan Schofer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A Speaker Killed my MegaPixel!
Date: 8 Dec 1994 07:15:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Sender: guitar@leland.stanford.edu
Message-ID: <3c6bqi$t37@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3b0rfl$565@net.auckland.ac.nz>
Summary: Shielded speakers?
One question:
-- Were the speakers that tweaked your monitory of the "shielded"
sort which are often sold for use with computers? Or are they just normal
stereo speakers?
Just wondering, cuz I just bought some Yamaha YST M10 shielded
speakers. (They sound surprisingly good for small speakers, by the way.)
Even though they're "shielded", I'm still afraid to put them too close
to my computer. However, such fear may not be justified.
Thanks,
Evan Schofer
--
Evan Schofer Department of Sociology
guitar@leland.stanford.edu Stanford University
evan@method.stanford.edu Stanford CA, 94306
From: albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Recordable CD-ROM's?
Date: 8 Dec 1994 10:07:20 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c6ero$4an@proffa.cc.tut.fi>
References: <3bi2u6$bkk@fermat.mayo.edu>
This is a forwarded message from: Juha Tuominen
In article <3bi2u6$bkk@fermat.mayo.edu>, Ray Ghanbari <ray@mayo.edu> wrote:
>Has anyone attached one of the many recordable CD-ROM players/writers to a
>box running NS? Does the system properly deal with it? If so, what are
>the format options for writing data? I would prefer not to have to hang
>it off a Mac.
I've got Pinnacle Micro's RCD-202 connected to a 486-box running NSFIP3.2, but
as far as I know there's no way to record a CD using NeXTSTEP. But I installed
the NS using the RCD (it works as a normal CD-ROM drive when reading).
Unfortunately all writings must be done from Windows. I don't think that
this particular RCD-ROM will ever work in unix environment due to
speed requirements (no interrupts are allowed to ensure clean write).
RCD-200 -series require very fast HD in order to work properly. Some HDs
do heat calibrations during operation and that might cause a pause to the
dataflow causing errors to CD writing.
-Juha
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 32bit WIDE SCSI HD's
Date: 7 Dec 1994 13:38:24 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c4vf0$90u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Hi all,
I'm going to be getting the new DPT 3224/90W controller when it comes
out this Jan or Feb. This controller will support 32bit Wide SCSI (most wides
today are only 16bit). It also supports upto 21 devices and has on board RAID
support--nice card.
The thing is...I want to get a HD that matches the 32bit WIDE spec.
Most drives today are only 16bit Wide SCSI. Like the 2gig baraccuda W is only
16bit wide.
So the question is, does anyone know of any SCSI drive around the 2gig
range that do 32bit Wide SCSI?
Thanks for any help.
Later, John
From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2nd HD on an ancient cube ?
Date: 7 Dec 1994 18:02:20 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3c4tbd$roq@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I have an old cube (with a 68030 in it) and only a smallish HD. I
can't remember the exact size but it is a full height maxtor unit and
there is also an optical drive in the machine as well.
The question is can I fit another disk inside the cube or would I be
better going for an external drive in some sort of case ?
The drive that I am thinking of is a Micropolis MIC4110.
So what do you all reckon ?
Thanks for any advice
Rupert.
From: grattan@iastate.edu (Brian G Grattan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP. monitor not compatible
Date: 8 Dec 1994 16:25:49 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa (USA)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c7c2d$3ul@news.iastate.edu>
Keywords: monitor
Originator: grattan@du248-15.cc.iastate.edu
This is my first time posting so please notify me if I do
something wrong.
My dad bought an 'old' Hitachi HM-3719A V Series Monitor
from work but has not been able to use it with our Zeos
386 SX w/Speed Star Plus, Rev A4 Driver board. The problem
seems to be that the frequency is of the Hitachi is not
the same as what our computer uses (the Hitachi runs at
32.05 kHz Horz, 75.7 Hz Vert).
Is it possible to get them to work together?
If so, how?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Post it or e-mail me at:
grattan@iastate.edu
Thankyou.
--
Brian G Grattan
grattan@iastate.edu
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: JC/NX: Comments by JCIS
Date: 8 Dec 1994 17:25:23 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
<serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU> wrote:
Message-ID: <3c7fi3$mos@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <3bgm0l$dvk@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <1994Dec2.163013.20993@princeton
>and forthcoming (for example, they wrote an NCR SCSI driver for us that would
>work with our Cogent PCI ethernet board -- and provided us with an Intel card
>free-of-charge while the driver was being readied). Recently, they've provide
d
>us with detailed information regarding the notorious pentium floating-point
>flaw, and are actively working with us on getting that resolved. I can
>recommend them without reservation.
>Serge Goldstein
>Next SysAdmin
>Princeton University CIT
>
I can only second the sentiments put forth by Mr. Goldstein.
Randy Jackson
Geography, OSU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Wespestad_Eric@pcp.ca (Eric Wespestad)
Subject: Re: [Q] Supported 28.8 bps modem for NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1994Dec8.171534.19645@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <3bttgd$o3r@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 94 17:15:34 GMT
In article <3bttgd$o3r@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> rsingh@ix.netcom.com
(Rashpal Singh) writes:
> Would someone know of a v.34 modem that works with NeXTSTEP/I ? I know
> Zyxel has very good compatibility with NS/FIP but they still haven't
> come out with their v.34 modem
>
> Thanks.
If you have the 1496E+ model you could be in luck - I was told when I
purchased mine that a ROM upgrade for V.34 would become available. If
anyone knows when, please let us know.
From: black.knight@btf.com (Black Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ********
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 01:55:00 GMT
Message-ID: <941208100107460@btf.com>
Organization: BTF BBS, San Jose Ca. 408-363-9766
Distribution: world
References: <1994Dec5.222435.11727@ttinews.tti.com>
WA> Has anyone connected a 400dpi next printer to a macintosh. I have
WA> both machines and I want to share the printer (outside of
WA> networking).
As a Next fan, although not a user, my understanding was that the next
printer is "dumb", it is like a stylewriter, or other low end mac
printer in that the immage is RIPed (Raster Imagge Proceing) occurs in
the computer, and the printer just puts dots where the computer tells it
to. Good luck. I would very much doubt that such a thing exists for the
mac. The only way I see it to produce a postscript file on the mac, move
it to the next, and print it there.
Ronald Pottol
* RM 1.3 * Eval Day 121 * Tribble Olympics, Shuttle Run * -*
From: Juan Diaz <jdiaz@mail.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ****68040's for sale****
Date: 8 Dec 1994 17:56:35 GMT
Organization: eiseley x
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c7hcj$ffe@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Two Motorola 68RC040 microprocessors for sale.
Rated at 25 and 33 mHz.
Brand new.
email your offers to jdiaz@mail.utexas.edu,
or call me at (512) 454-9291, leave a message for Juan.
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: I want to buy a trackball for my NON adb keyboard
Date: 8 Dec 1994 18:35:00 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3c7jkk$dm9@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: advice,help,mouse,trackball, NON-adb keyboards
Hullo Folks!
I have an interest in purchasing a track ball for my venerable
NeXTcube. It has the old style, pre-NeXTstation, NON-adb keyboard.
Does anyone have any experience with track balls that work with
these keyboards? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Chris Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wdwyer@world.nad.northrop.com (William P. Dwyer)
Subject: SCSI QIC tape won't write
Message-ID: <WDWYER.94Dec7164350@world.nad.northrop.com>
Sender: news@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com (Usenet News Manager)
Organization: Northrop Grumman Automation Sciences Laboratory, Pico Rivera, CA
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 00:43:50 GMT
I am having trouble using an Archive Viper 150 2150S QIC tape drive
with my 040 NeXT slab running NeXT Mach 2.1.
I have the drive properly connected and terminated, and it
is recognized at boot time. Originally I had problems
getting the device to respond until I set the driver to operate
in fixed block mode with blocksize=512. Immediately after
setting the drive to fixed block mode I was able to successfully
write/read to/from the tape using tar. Since then I have
not been able to perform any I/O. I don't know what happened
after the first successful write/read (except I went to bed).
A description of current response is
command: tar cvf /dev/rst0 file.c
tape winds forward to end of tape
then drive vibrates and hums for 5 seconds
then prompt returns without error message
Console window output:
reselect timeout - target 3
st: cmd = 0x10 sr_io_status = 5H
st: cmd = 0x1 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x6 Sense Code = 0x0
command: tar tvf /dev/rst0
drive searches tape several times then returns
tar: tape read error: I/O error
Console window output:
st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Sense key = 0x8 Sense Code = 0x0
Any help with my problem would be greatly appreciated. I've been
working on this one for a while.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
===========================================================================
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M.S. T233/GK |
Northrop Grumman Corp. | "I have a secret to tell, from my electrical
8900 E. Washington Blvd. | well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving
Pico Rivera, CA 90660 | out the whistles and bells." TMBG
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Northrop Grumman Corp. | "I have a secret to tell, from my electrical
8900 E. Washington Blvd. | well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving
Pico Rivera, CA 90660 | out the whistles and bells." TMBG
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Station 17" Colour monitor broken... another one!
Date: 8 Dec 1994 17:18:30 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3c87om$8h5@xmission.xmission.com>
References: <D078zq.1Mz@portland.demon.co.uk> <3c8298$5k1@news.tamu.edu>
Joel J. Barreto (jbarreto@eesun1.tamu.edu) wrote:
: In article <D078zq.1Mz@portland.demon.co.uk>,
: Danny Frey <dan@portland.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >
: >My NeXT 17" Colour monitor (Philips) is kaput, the screen flickered
: >occasionally and now it shows no picture at all. My local TV repair shop
: i had the same problem, however it appears that repairing the monitor will
: turn out to be quite expensive. I am looking to buy a new compatible monitor.
: what are the brands/models that i can try ?
: Joel
Ikegami makes (or made) a very nice Trinitron monitor specifically for
compatibility with NeXT computers. It synched at the apropos refresh
rate, etc., and came in an attractive black case.
.....................kris
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From: jbarreto@eesun1.tamu.edu (Joel J. Barreto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Station 17" Colour monitor broken... another one!
Date: 8 Dec 1994 22:44:56 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Electrical Engineering, Texas A&M University
Message-ID: <3c8298$5k1@news.tamu.edu>
References: <D078zq.1Mz@portland.demon.co.uk>
Keywords: color monitor
In article <D078zq.1Mz@portland.demon.co.uk>,
Danny Frey <dan@portland.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>My NeXT 17" Colour monitor (Philips) is kaput, the screen flickered
>occasionally and now it shows no picture at all. My local TV repair shop
i had the same problem, however it appears that repairing the monitor will
turn out to be quite expensive. I am looking to buy a new compatible monitor.
what are the brands/models that i can try ?
Joel
From: terence@sfsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanner for Next (FIP)?
Date: 9 Dec 1994 00:31:52 GMT
Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona
Message-ID: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net>
My Next fan (freak) boss asked me to find out if there are any scanners
for Next machines out there. I guess since the oem h/w is port-limited,
the obvious solutions would be on a 80x86 machine.
Question:
Are there any scanners that are supported by whatever Next software that
will work this way?
Or do I have to scan the stuff under a DOS/Windows window (SoftPC) or in
native mode (with dual boot) and then reboot to Nextstep and use the file
from there?
Thanks,
From: okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: UPS automatic shutdown
Date: 8 Dec 1994 18:33 EDT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <8DEC199418333851@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
I would like to find a program which will monitor a UPS and
automatically shut down NEXTSTEP on Intel (Dell) hardware if
a power outage lasts longer than a specified period or the
battery voltage drops too low. The UPS manufacturers sell such
software (for example, APC's "PowerChute") for command Unix systems,
but apparently not for NEXTSTEP.
Does such a program exist as either free, shareware, or commercial
software?
Best regards,
David
From: kris@xmission.com (kris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black is back. . . .
Date: 8 Dec 1994 17:35:27 -0700
Organization: XMission Public Access Internet (801-539-0900)
Message-ID: <3c88of$ajf@xmission.xmission.com>
I walked into the local electronics superstore last night to be greeted by
an unusual sight--an attractive black Leading Edge. It was a Pentium 90
in a low form-factor black case, with a stylish black monitor with
built-in stereo speakers, a black PS/2 mouse, and NeXT-y ribs around the
middle. It had only 8 MB of RAM, but I've worked on a mono slab with 8
MBs for a year without much hassle.
I asked to see its technical specifications, and I found out that with
the exception of the 1 MB Cirrus Logic PCI on-board video, the thing was
probably NEXTSTEP compatible--all the way down to a Microsoft Sound
System-compatible sound card. (No network adapter, of course.)
Nice to know we can sell our well-integrated NeXTstations to buy a
well-integrated Intel PC . . . at the local stereo shop. Now if only
NEXTSTEP were the OS of choice among the hoi polloi. . . .
.............................kris
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk (Lawrence Kirby)
Subject: Re: 32bit WIDE SCSI HD's
Distribution: world
References: <3c4vf0$90u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 19:10:26 +0000
Message-ID: <786913826snz@genesis.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3c4vf0$90u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu "John Kheit" writes:
> So the question is, does anyone know of any SCSI drive around the 2gig
>range that do 32bit Wide SCSI?
As far as I am aware there are 32 bit SCSI devices in existence (at least not
being marketed).
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Wilts, England | 70734.126@compuserve.com
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From: estraff@tori.next.com (Ethan Straffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic BT-946c?????
Date: 8 Dec 1994 23:33:42 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3c854m$1ai@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994Dec6.020911.28214@bMD.com>
In article <1994Dec6.020911.28214@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
:Is there a driver for this avail?
Yes, in 3.3.
Ethan Straffin
NEXTSTEP Technical Support
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Subject: Re: ISDN
References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> <5bOQ_4h3nrB@black.schulung.netuse.de> <3c4agh$8a4@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de> <5bOS-F4onrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 01:22:40 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Dec9.012240.20836@proximus.north.de>
In article <5bOS-F4onrB@black.schulung.netuse.de>,
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristian_K=F6hntopp?= <kris@black.schulung.netuse.de> wrote:
[....]
>Do you have the number of Xenologics, Cologne? Or better, do
>they have an email address?
[...]
Xenologics, Stephan Muhs
info@xenologics.com
2203-69 50 91
2203-69 50 90 (fax)
Wilhelm-Ruppert-Straûe 38/C66
51147 Köln
Deutschland
ZyXEL Modems
Bestellungen <order@xenologics.com>
Stephan Muhs <stephan@xenologics.com>
Frank Bergknecht <frank@dino.dinoco.de>
ehemals dinoLogics.
BTW: I'm one of the first happy customers... Since the old days of
Anchor modems... ;-)
Gerhard.
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T Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail T
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Looking for music software and hardware for professional use
Message-ID: <D0Fxz3.8u@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 12:42:38 GMT
Hi,
I'm a composer and I work with a Yamaha SY77. What would allow me to be
able to compose with my Intel-based NeXT ? I'd need special software and
hardware (like a DSP).
Can someone point out to me what I could do ? Money is not an issue, I'm
looking for the best.
Thanks
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP monitor flicker?
Date: 9 Dec 1994 02:56:12 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3c8h0c$ihh@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <3c26qb$aj8@news.doit.wisc.edu>
In article <3c26qb$aj8@news.doit.wisc.edu> andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu
(Andrew Barger) writes:
>
> Sorry if this question has already been posted or discussed, I don't read
> hardware usually. Anyways, I've been working on an HP 712/80 with a 20"
> Sony monitor, now running NEXTSTEP. I have noticed that when a terminal
> window with a lot of text in it is scrolled, the rest of the screen
> flickers perceptibly. I didn't notice this under HP's interface (whatever
> it was called), and I wondered if (a) it was a problem with NEXTSTEP, (b)
> is there something configured wrong, (c) cables hooked up incorrectly,
> etc. Any comments would be appreciated.
We've noticed that as well. Hopefully, NEXTSTEP/hppa
3.3 will clean up many of these little bugs. I suggest
submitting a bug report to add pressure on NeXT.
We also discovered that NeXT machines (on our case
NeXTcubes) put out a great deal of RF interference, and
the having a running NeXT on the same desk a few feet away
from the HP system would cause the HP screen to wiggle and
wave in a terrible fashion!
Cheers,
-Nathan
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Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
US Mail: Yale University Dept MB&B / HHMI
260 Whitney Ave JWG 604
New Haven, CT 06511
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Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: howardd@il.us.swissbank.com (Denise Howard)
Subject: Re: UPS automatic shutdown
Message-ID: <1994Dec9.152846.3850@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <8DEC199418333851@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:28:46 GMT
David Okerson writes
> I would like to find a program which will monitor a UPS and
> automatically shut down NEXTSTEP on Intel (Dell) hardware if
> a power outage lasts longer than a specified period or the
> battery voltage drops too low. The UPS manufacturers sell such
> software (for example, APC's "PowerChute") for command Unix systems,
> but apparently not for NEXTSTEP.
>
> Does such a program exist as either free, shareware, or commercial
> software?
You're asking for PowerGuardian, by BenaTong Software. It works best with
an APC UPS. Works great. I don't have BenaTong's phone number, etc.
handy, but you can try info@benatong.com.
I have no affiliation with BenaTong, just a pleased user.
Denise
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Swiss Bank Corporation | to banging one's head against a wall,
Chicago, IL | but with fewer opportunities for
(312) 554-6298 | reward.
From: root@baby (VSI root account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Any companies service NeXT printers in UK ?
Date: 9 Dec 1994 16:02:09 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3c9v21$nmd@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I have got what appears to be a non-functioning NeXT printer - when npd
starts in the rc file the printer does nothing - I believe it should whir
a bit or something. Also when I run a test from PrintManager nothing
happens.
I think that the cable is OK - so I think that I need the printer serviced
- or at least someone who knows what they are doing to look at it.
So is there anyone in the UK (as close to Southampton as possible) who
deals with servicing NeXT hardware ?
Cheers Rupert.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve Borrelli)
Subject: Re: How to fax with a GVC 14.4 fax/modem???
References: <1994Dec7.010419.18822@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Sender: Steven Borrelli
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 18:58:19 GMT
Message-ID: <D0IA18.GK4@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <1994Dec7.010419.18822@news.cs.indiana.edu>,
Kharim Hogan <kharim@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can anyone please help me out? I'm trying to get my GVC 14.4 fax/modem
>to actually send (and receive would be nice too!) faxes. I used to use
>a ZyXEL modem and never had any problems (I also have the NXFax software)
>but now I'm trying to use a GVC and can get as far as getting the modem
>to make the call and connect to a fax machine but then it immediately
>disconnects. Do I need a special driver (or the equivalent of a printer
>description file) for this type of modem? In PrintManager.app, there are
>only two options that come up for configuring a fax modem, the HSD and
>the Interfax modem. If I select HSD, absolutely nothing happens. With
>Interfax configured, I can do as above, connect but can't send since it
>doesn't hold the line.
>
>Do I need to get a special file for the GVC or configure something that
>I haven't? If anyone knows, please help...
>
>Many thanks,
>Kharim Hogan
>
>
>
I know someone who had the exact same problem with NXFax + GVC14.4
internal modem. It can send o.k. (but not in fine mode), but receive doesn't
work. My only suggestion is to get a different modem if you need to receive.
To send...use normal mode, not fine. (There is a check in the fax panel)
cheers,
steve
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From: rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Rupert Hollom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Any companies service NeXT printers in UK ?
Date: 9 Dec 1994 17:04:28 GMT
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <3ca2ms$pt3@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
References: <3c9v21$nmd@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
In <3c9v21$nmd@bright.ecs.soton.ac.uk> root@baby (VSI root account) writes:
**************************************************************************
Whoops -the e-mail address should be rjh@ecs.soton.ac.uk NOT what it
says at the top of the message.
*************************************************************************
>I have got what appears to be a non-functioning NeXT printer - when npd
>starts in the rc file the printer does nothing - I believe it should whir
>a bit or something. Also when I run a test from PrintManager nothing
>happens.
>I think that the cable is OK - so I think that I need the printer serviced
>- or at least someone who knows what they are doing to look at it.
>So is there anyone in the UK (as close to Southampton as possible) who
>deals with servicing NeXT hardware ?
>Cheers Rupert.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: simm
Message-ID: <1994Dec7.031921.26865@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <D06uJt.KIG@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 03:19:21 GMT
koo@n5.math.umn.edu (Yonghoi Koo) writes:
>can anyone tell me what kind of simm is OK for my
>turbo machine?
>( Is any 72 pinn, 70 ns simm OK?)
First point to look at is that you better not mix 8-bits and 9-bits
(with parity) SIMMs. For the rest: I'm no expert, sorry.
Willem
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: NeXT Station 17" Colour monitor broken... another one!
Message-ID: <1994Dec7.032153.27042@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Keywords: color monitor
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <D078zq.1Mz@portland.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 03:21:53 GMT
dan@portland.demon.co.uk (Danny Frey) writes:
>My NeXT 17" Colour monitor (Philips) is kaput, the screen flickered
>occasionally and now it shows no picture at all. My local TV repair shop
>is making a brave effort to resuscitate it for me, regrettably they can't
>find circuit diags or parts suppliers - Philips here are apparently no
>help. Does anyone have similar experiences or have any idea where I could
>dig up more info with a view to repair? Any help would be most
>appreciated.
I repaired mine once (also without diagrams, allthough I'm working
for Philips). I too had flickering pictures, which was finally caused
by a bad soldered Elco. So check first all your solderings. A lot of work, byt
easily to be repaired.
Willem
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Scanner for Next (FIP)?
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 94 16:48:32 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Dec9.164832.23489@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <3c88ho$sib@maple.enet.net>
terence@sfsc.com writes:
>My Next fan (freak) boss asked me to find out if there are any scanners
>for Next machines out there. I guess since the oem h/w is port-limited,
>the obvious solutions would be on a 80x86 machine.
I have a low level driver for the ScanFx scanner. The pre-scan example is a
simple application, all interfaces are done with read, write and ioctl UNIX
calls at this point.
Drop me, or talus systems a note.
Ciao -- Mark
From: chris@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Chris Augustine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ColorCard for NextCube
Date: 9 Dec 1994 18:11:08 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ca6js$npr@uwm.edu>
I am looking for a ColorCard for NextCube 68040 motherboard.
I would like it to support SVGA if possible.
Can someone point me in the right direction.
Thanks..... ;)
From: Brian Dear <70034.1062@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Canon obj.station AUDIO output --- HELP
Date: 8 Dec 1994 18:17:52 GMT
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Message-ID: <3c7ikg$9rs$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
I have a Canon object.station 41 with built-in CD-ROM drive.
This question is for other object.station owners:
Does anyone know of a way to play a music CD thru the CD-ROM drive and
have the stereo audio of the CD routed out to the audio AUX OUT jack
on the back of the object.station?
Right now I find I have to run a cable into the headphone jack of the
CD drive itself, and I get very low audio output -- I have to turn the
volume way up on my stereo amp just to be able to hear stuff.
I would rather have the audio connected to the AUX jack on the back of
the object.station.
Oh, also I have found that if I eject a CD, I get horrible pops and
"audio-spikes" and buzzing and static over my speakers. Evidently
it's not a very clean circuit or something.
Any help would be appreciated. Please direct any email replies
to "brian@coconut.com" thanks.
-- bd
,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pec@netcom.com (Manabu Tokunaga)
Subject: FDDI and ATM Solutions for Intel NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <pecD0K6DB.2z3@netcom.com>
Summary: Looking for ATM and FDDI Solution That Runs on NeXTSTEP 3.x Intel
Keywords: fddi, atm
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 19:34:23 GMT
Hi,
I would like to know if there are presently ATM (Async Transfer Mode)
and FDDI networking solution that is plug & play for Intel NeXTSTEP
platforms (ISA/PCI).
Manabu Tokunaga
Advanced Systems Group, CEMAX Inc. <manabu@cemax.com>
Personal: pec@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kehoe@fortuity.sf.ca.us (Daniel Miles Kehoe)
Subject: inkjet woes on a NeXT Color Printer
Message-ID: <D0K7wp.7Kn@nbn.com>
Sender: news@nbn.com
Organization: North Bay Network's news posting service - not responsible for content
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:07:37 GMT
I'm helping The Printer Works (Hayward, CA) put together a program
to replace failed inkjet heads on NeXT Color Printers.
I'm not a Color Printer user, but I've been told that the cyan head
has an unusually high failure rate. I can't find any news postings
about this -- I'd like to hear from any NeXT Color Printer owners
who had this problem. Was it easily corrected? What did it cost
to repair?
The Printer Works can replace inkjet heads for $150. I'll encourage them
to offer the service if c.s.n.hardware readers think it is a good idea.
Daniel Kehoe
Fortuity Marketing Consulting
kehoe@fortuity.sf.ca.us
From: maciag@orange.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.2/3.3 on Compaq XL566?
Date: 9 Dec 1994 01:05:10 GMT
Organization: TIG Insurance, Inc.
Message-ID: <3c8ag6$4is@orange.digex.net>
Summary: Will NS3.X run on Compaq566?
Keywords: Compaq
Will NS 3.2 or 3.3 run on a standard Compaq DeskPro XL/566
(Pentium66,PCI,integrated SCSI-2,integrated Ethernet,QVision2000)?
Michael Maciag
TIG Insurance, Inc.
maciag@orange.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: what signal powers on a NeXT printer?
Message-ID: <1994Dec10.015134.1001@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <01050131.gn1nv7@mariposa.stonecutter.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 01:51:34 GMT
In article <01050131.gn1nv7@mariposa.stonecutter.com>
sawtelle@stonecutter.com (Don Sawtelle) writes:
> It's my understanding that a NeXT printer doesn't power on until npd
> runs. Is it just some 5v line that's pulled high, or pulled low, that
> causes the printer to power on? If it's that simple, and someone knows
> which line it is, we could test it before it leaves the shop.
Don,
For the NeXT Laser Printer:
Pin 5 is LP POWER ENABLE
Pins 6,7,8 are GROUND
You need to have Pin 5 connected to GROUND (any of pins 6,7,8) "tied low"
before you plug the printer into the wall socket. Then, disconnect pin 5
from GROUND, and connect a +5VDC source to pin 5 (with the - going to any
of pins 6,7,8); maintain the +5VDC on pin 5. The printer should power up.
NOTE: DO NOT EXCEED +5VDC OR YOU RISK BLOWING THE LOGIC BOARD!!
(You can put three 1.5 AA batteries together; 4.5V is close
enough.)
Good luck!
--
Mark Tarbell ( Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com )
Senior Systems Design Engineer
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
rad.i.cal \rad'-i-kel\ adj: of or relating to the origin: FUNDAMENTAL
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: External Drive generating unknown commands??
Date: 10 Dec 1994 05:50:38 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B.
Message-ID: <3cbfje$al5@yuggoth.ucsb.edu>
I have an external HP97560 hard drive (please forgive me -- I do not have the
manufacturer's name available from where I write this) which has been attached
and running on our Sparc server for several years. Today I attempted to
attach it to one of our m68k slabs. I set its SCSI ID to 1.
After several failed attempts, during which the NeXT simply got stuck right as
it tried to begin booting from the internal disk, I reset the boot parameters
to do the SCSI tests and verbose output.
It seems that this external drive is generating some kind of SCSI commands
when it is first being accessed which the NeXT SCSI driver is not recognizing.
I am getting an error something like "Unknown command "7"", and at least one
abortive attempt at "waiting for the drive to come ready...".
This external disk drive is configured to not spin up until it receives some
command from the SCSI driver. This much works -- I hear the drive spin up as
soon as I power up the NeXT. Are there likely to be other aspects of this
drive which are incompatible with the NeXT, and which need to be reset? I am
not well-versed in SCSI technology -- I know the manual speaks about several
command modes that can be set via the jumpers. I was just surprised that it
would work on a Sparc but not on a NeXT.
Forgive my incomplete information -- I am just hoping this problem is
recognizable to somebody and that I can fix it over the weekend rather than
having to call the manufacturer on Monday and loose several days' access.
--
Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer
Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
Internet (NeXTMail ok): | University of California, Santa Barbara
<doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | http://ccmrc.ucsb.edu/
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Info on Turbo slab color monitor wanted
Date: 9 Dec 1994 18:22:13 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ca78l$q8s@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <D0F0rs.4K1@serval.net.wsu.edu>
In article <D0F0rs.4K1@serval.net.wsu.edu> hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu
(Karl Hakimian - staff) writes:
> Can anyone tell me the resolution, scan rate, etc. of a monitor for the
> Color Turbo Slab?
There were a couple of models used. However, since your computer is a
turbo (more recent), I expect that the monitor is a 17" Sony trinitron
with 1152x832 (or something close to that) resolution and a 68Hz refresh
rate.
NeXT sold the rights to the schematics to Bell Atlantic, and Bell Atlantic
keeps a tight monopoly hold on them. I don't expect you'll be able to get
schematics.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Station 17" Colour monitor broken... another one!
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 01:01:12 GMT
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland
Message-ID: <1994Dec10.010112.711@harka>
References: <D078zq.1Mz@portland.demon.co.uk> <3c8298$5k1@news.tamu.edu>
Originator: HARKA@nice
Joel J. Barreto (jbarreto@eesun1.tamu.edu) wrote:
> i had the same problem, however it appears that repairing the monitor will
> turn out to be quite expensive. I am looking to buy a new compatible monitor.
> what are the brands/models that i can try ?
It's only expensive if you repair it in the official way. If you find
the right person to do it, it maight be much cheaper. I found a
'monitor-doctor' who repaired mine for about $260 and it works
perfect again.
- Felix
--
Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland.
internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Station 17" Colour monitor broken... another one!
Date: 10 Dec 1994 10:53:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cc1as$c88@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3c8298$5k1@news.tamu.edu>
In article <3c8298$5k1@news.tamu.edu> jbarreto@eesun1.tamu.edu (Joel J.
Barreto) writes:
> >My NeXT 17" Colour monitor (Philips) is kaput, the screen flickered
> >occasionally and now it shows no picture at all.
> I am looking to buy a new compatible monitor.
> what are the brands/models that i can try ?
Most any 1280x1024 multisync will do. It has to be able to do 1152x832
(or whatever the NeXT puts out) at a 68 Hz refresh rate. You'll need a
13W3 to BNC adaptor.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: peterw@anecdote.com (Peter Wyngaard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cube HD going...going...going...
Date: 9 Dec 1994 21:50:46 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562)
Message-ID: <3cajfm$guo$1@heifetz.msen.com>
The original hard drive (Maxtor 330MB) in my cube is starting to switch into
"incredibly-annoyingly-noisy" mode. I remember the symtoms from another cube
I used to work on.
I need to buy a replacement hard drive and transfer everything from the old
drive to the new one. I have two questions:
1) What makes/model hard drive should I buy to replace the original Maxtor?
I recall reading in this newsgroup talk about how certain drives
just can't take the environment inside the cube.
Is it OK to buy a 3.5" drive and use the conversion brackets?
I would like to get something larger than 330MB. Probably something
in the 1Gig range. Any suggestions?
2) How do I initialize the new drive and transfer everything over?
I bought the cube used. It came with NS3.0 installed on it. I don't
have the NS3.0 CD, nor do I have a CD-ROM drive.
Is there some combination of "disk" and "dump" that will allow me to
transfer everything over nicely?
As this is to be a total replacement of the old drive, the new drive
will become the boot disk.
Thanks for your help/suggestions,
Peter
From: ups@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.admin,comp.answers,news.answers
Subject: Uninterruptible Power Source FAQ
Followup-To: comp.misc
Date: 10 Dec 1994 13:09:38 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cc9ai$fus@phoebe.jpl.nasa.gov>
Summary: Answers to FAQs about Uninterruptable Power Sources (UPS)
Originator: root@navigator.jpl.nasa.gov
Archive-name: UPS-faq
Version: 1.7
Uninterruptable Power Source (UPS) FAQ.
VERSION 1.7, October 18, 1994.
Sections:
01: What is this document all about?
01: What is this document?
02: How is this document made available?
03: Who maintains this?
04: Where did this information come from?
05: How can I contribute?
06: How may this document be distributed?
07: Got anything else you'd like to add?
08: Glossary.
02: What is a UPS and how does is work?
01: What is a UPS?
02: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
03: Vendor X says that (description) is a UPS, is it?
04: Describe the types of UPS's?
05: How can a UPS help me?
06: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
07: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running?
08: What is a "good" UPS?
09: Support contracts on UPS's.
10: Self maintenance tips.
11: Is a UPS a glorified power strip?
12: How important is the UPS output waveform?
03: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
01: Can a UPS shut the computer down when power is low?
02: Can I write my own shutdown routines?
03: What freely distributable solutions are there?
04: No UPS software works on my machines, what to do?
05: What other software is out there.
04: How big a UPS do I need?
01: How are UPS sizes determined?
02: What VA rating do I need?
03: How do I determine this?
04: What else should I consider?
05: Can I use an UPS with a laser printer?
06: What UPS sizes do you use on what equipment?
05: Specific manufacturer's info.
01: What vendors are there?
02: UPS Hardware.
03: UPS Software only.
04: Other companies.
06: Bibliography
07: Acknowledgments
-----------------------------
01:
TOPIC: What is this document all about?
01.01
Q: What is this document?
A: This is a FAQ document on Uninterruptable Power Sources. It is
intended to provide a starting point for those people that want
to find out what they are, what they do, and what's available.
Note that most of this document is very US-centric. The power
numbers, companies and services all emphasize US consumer
needs. Sorry, but that's what I have to work with. All the
principles discussed here should be applicable just about
everywhere.
01.02
Q: How is this document made available?
A: Currently, its "home" is comp.misc. It is also crossposted to
comp.unix.admin, comp.sys.sun.hardware, comp.sys.hp.hardware,
comp.sys.sgi.hardware, comp.sys.next.hardware,
comp.sys.ibm.hardware, comp.sys.dec, comp.answers and
news.answers. This posting is automated and will occur on or
near the 10th of each month. If there are other groups to
which this document should be posted, please let me know, but
if I post it to every group where UPS questions get asked, that
would be a lot of groups. I'm open to suggestions.
This document is also available via anonymous FTP. The master
sits on navigator.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.23.82) in pub/doc/faq
as the file UPS.faq. It is also available via anonymous FTP
from rtfm.mit.edu in:
pub/usenet-by-group/comp.misc/Uninterruptable_Power_Source_FAQ
01.03
Q: Who maintains this?
A: Right now, this document is maintained by Nick Christenson. My
preferred email address is npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov, and I
would like it very much if questions regarding this document
could have the word "UPS or UPS FAQ" or some such in the Subject
line. Note: I am maintaining this on my own time, so please
don't be upset if it takes a while for me to respond to your
queries. Also none of the information in here represents the
views or has the blessing of any organization whatsoever. The
maintainer of the FAQ is to be held solely responsible for its
contents.
01.04
Q: Where did this information come from?
A: Thankfully, many people have rallied to my cry to fill in
the many gaps in my original draft. This is now a group work,
although I claim full responsibility for misstatements and
inaccuracies.
01.05
Q: How can I contribute?
A: You should mail new information, corrections, suggestions, etc.
to the current maintainer of this FAQ. If you provide a suggestion,
make sure you reference where the information is located in the
document. I guarantee that suggestions of the form "Change the
word 'always' to 'almost always' in the part about surge suppression."
will be ignored.
01.06
Q: Are there any restrictions on distribution of this document?
A: This document is copyright by the author. You are encouraged
to distribute this document for any non-commercial purpose
as long as the contents remain unchanged and a pointer to
an up-to-date version is included.
01.07
Q: Got anything else you'd like to add?
A: Yes, now that you mention it. The people who contribute to this
document can speak only about equipment they have experience with.
This may reflect a bias toward or against certain brands, features,
functions, etc.. Please keep in mind that the suggestions, brand
names and functions here are by no means exhaustive, or even
necessarily applicable to your situation. Also, if you have
information that is not in this document, please submit it to
the maintainer listed above. If you submit information, please
say whether you'd like it to be attributed to you or not. I am
more than glad to give credit to the fine people who helped with
this document, but I want to respect the anonymity of those
people who would prefer it.
One more caveat: While the principles of UPS design and
maintenance are likely to be fairly universal, the power
figures in this FAQ are *very* US-centric. Sorry, but
they're the only numbers I have.
01.08
Q: Glossary
A: This was contributed almost entirely by some kind soul. I just
cleaned it up a bit.
Blackout: Complete loss of power. Some literature considers a voltage
drop below about 80V to be a blackout as well since most
equipment will not operate below these levels.
Sag or Brownout: Decrease in voltage levels which can last for
periods ranging from fractions of a second to hours. Can be
caused by heavy equipment coming on line such as shop tools,
elevators, compressors etc. Also occurs when utility companies
deliberately do this to cope with peak load times.
Spike: An instantaneous and tremendous increase in voltage often
caused by a direct lightning strike on a power line or when
power returns after a blackout.
Surge: An substantial increase in voltage lasting a small fraction
of a second, often caused when high powered appliances such as
air conditioners are switched off.
EMI/RFI Noise: ElectroMagnetic Interference and Radio Frequency
Interference. Caused by, inter alia, lightning, generators,
radio transmitters, industrial equipment.
MOV: Metal Oxide Varistors used to control spikes. These are
common in Power Strips. If you see more than two, you likely
have a fairly decent Power Strip. They look like largish disk
capacitors.
Inverter: Circuitry that converts DC battery power to AC power
required by most computer equipment.
Surge Protector: Circuitry consisting of MOVs, capacitors, rod-core
inductors etc. for suppressing surges and spikes usually embedded
in a power strip.
Line Conditioner: A transformer that attempts to smooth out
fluctuations in input voltage to provide near uniform output
voltage or voltage waveform.
02:
TOPIC: What is a UPS and how does is work?
02.01
Q: What is a UPS?
A: An Uninterruptable Power Source is a device that sits between
a power supply (e.g. a wall outlet) and a device (e.g. a computer)
to prevent undesired features of the power source (outages, sags,
surges, bad harmonics, etc.) from the supply from adversely
affecting the performance of the device.
02.02
Q: How do you pronounce "UPS"?
A: I pronounce it "ups", but most of the literature seems to favor
"you pee ess", since they use "a UPS" instead of "an UPS". This
document will try to follow the literature.
02.03
Q: Vendor X says that (fill in description) is a UPS, but it's
different that what you describe above. Who's right?
A: There really is no standard definition of what a UPS is.
Anything ranging from a 9 volt battery backup in a clock radio
to a building/compound wide backup generator has been called
a UPS by someone. The majority of this document refers to
objects larger than a beer can and smaller than a desk that
help devices remain temporarily operational when changes to the
power they receive would otherwise interrupt their function.
Maintaining power to a minicomputer (like a VAX 11) is beyond
the scope of this document. This FAQ deals with UPS equipment
that can be installed by a computer owner/administrator. If you
have requirements that large, you need to talk to a qualified
electrician.
02.04
Q: Can you give me some more information on this?
A: (Kindly provided by Don Deal, Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu, my additions
are in [square brackets] )
The UPS industry is made up of many manufacturers, and there is
a lack of standard terms within the industry. I think this
sometimes borders on deliberate misdirection. (It's a jungle out
there!)
There are basically three different types of devices, all of
which are occasionally passed off as UPSs.
1. Standby power supply (SPS). In this type of supply, power is
usually derived directly from the power line, until power fails.
After power failure, a battery powered inverter turns on to
continue supplying power. Batteries are charged, as necessary,
when line power is available. This type of supply is sometimes
called an "offline" UPS.
The quality and effectiveness of this class of devices varies
considerably; however, they are generally quite a bit cheaper than
"true" UPSs. The time required for the inverter to come online,
typically called the switchover time, varies by unit. While some
computers may be able to tolerate long switchover times, your
mileage may vary. [ Some articles in the trade press have claimed
that their testing shows that modern PCs can withstand transfer
times of 100ms or more. Most UPS units claim a transfer time to
battery of about 4ms. Note that even if a computer can stay up
for 100ms, it doesn't mean that 100ms switchover is okay. Damage
can still be done to a computer or data on it even if it stays
up. ]
Other features to look for in this class of supplies is line
filtering and/or other line conditioners. Since appliances
connected to the supply are basically connected directly from
the power line, SPSs provide relatively poor protection from
line noise, frequency variations, line spikes, and brownouts.
[Some SPS's claim to have surge/spike suppression circuitry as
well as transformers to "boost" voltage without switching to
the battery if a modest voltage drop occurs. An example is the
"APC Smart UPS" which claims it will switch to this boosting mode
if voltage drops below 103V (from the normal expected 120V) and
switches to battery only at 90V and below. This, it is claimed,
allows operation of the equipment indefinitely under brownout
conditions as long as voltage does not drop below 90V. I have
not tested this, and would be interested in independent data.
There are other vendors products that make similar claims.]
2. Hybrid UPS systems. I only know one vendor who sells them -
Best Power, Inc. The theory behind these devices is fairly simple.
When normal operating line power is present, the supply conditions
power using a ferroresonant transformer. This transformer maintains
a constant output voltage even with a varying input voltage and
provides good protection against line noise. The transformer also
maintains output on its secondary briefly when a total outage occurs.
Best claims that their inverter then goes online so quickly that
it is operating without any interruption in power. Other UPS
vendors maintain that the transition is less than seamless, but
then again it's not in their best interest to promote Best's products.
Best has a sizable part of the UPS market.
[ Note: According to some sources, ferroresonant transformers in an
UPS system can interact with ferroresonant transformers in your
equipment and produce unexpected results. The Moral: Again, test
before you buy. -npc ]
3. What I call "true" UPS systems, those supplies that continuously
operate from an inverter. Obviously, there is no switchover time,
and these supplies generally provide the best isolation from power
line problems. The disadvantages to these devices are increased
cost, increased power consumption, and increased heat generation.
Despite the fact that the inverter in a "true" UPS is always on,
the reliability of such units does not seem to be affected. In
fact, we have seen more failures in cheaper SPS units. [ Note,
though, that given the same quality inverter, you'd expect the
one that runs least to last longest. ]
02.05
Q: How can it help me?
A: A UPS has internal batteries to guarantee that continuous power
is provided to the equipment even if the power supply stops
providing power. Of course the UPS can provide power for a while,
typically a few minutes, but that is often enough to ride out
power company glitches or short outages.
Advantages:
1) Computer jobs don't stop because the power fails.
2) Users not inconvenienced by computer shutting down.
3) Equipment does not incur the stress of another (hard)
power cycle.
4) Data isn't lost because a machine shut down without
doing a "sync" or equivalent to flush cached or
real time data.
02.06
Q: What sort of stuff does a UPS do?
A: A UPS traditionally can perform the following functions:
1) Absorb relatively small power surges.
2) Smooth out noisy power sources.
3) Continue to provide power to equipment during line sags.
4) Provide power for some time after a blackout has occurred.
In addition, some UPS or UPS/software combinations provide the
following functions:
1) Automatic shutdown of equipment during long power
outages.
2) Monitoring and logging of the status of the power supply.
3) Display the Voltage/Current draw of the equipment.
4) Restart equipment after a long power outage.
5) Display the voltage currently on the line.
6) Provide alarms on certain error conditions.
7) Provide short circuit protection.
02.07
Q: How long can equipment on a UPS keep running after the power
goes?
A: How big a UPS do you have and what kind of equipment does it
protect? For most typical computer workstations, one might
have a UPS that was rated to keep the machine alive through
a 15 minute power loss. If you need a machine to survive
hours without power should probably look at a more robust
power backup solution. Even if a UPS has a very small load,
it must still operate it's DC (battery) to AC converter,
which costs power. A rough extrapolation from APC's
documentation, leads me to guess that a 2000 VA UPS can
operate it's own converter (with no extra load) for just
over 8 hours. A 1250 VA UPS could run its converter for
about 5. These are *very* rough guesses based on information
provided by one vendor for one vendor.
02.08
Q: Given the same vendor claims, how can I tell a "good" quality
UPS from a "poor" quality UPS?
A: Testing, testing, testing. I can't emphasize this enough. There
are many good and bad units out there that call themselves UPS's.
There are many good units that are wrong for your situation.
Caveat Emptor.
Some properties you might look for are:
1) Sinusoidal power output. In general, the closer the AC output
of the UPS is to a sine wave, the better it is for your equipment.
Many UPS units, especially the cheaper ones, deviate a great
deal from a sinusoidal output. Some of them generate square
waves. Waveform effects are dealt with in section 2.12.
2) Does the UPS have a manual bypass switch? If the UPS is
broken or is being serviced, can you pass power through it to
your equipment? The last thing you want is for a broken UPS to
be the cause of extra downtime.
3) The more information about a UPS's operation you can get from
watching the unit itself, the better. How much power (or
percentage load) the equipment is drawing, how much battery
life is left and indications of the input power quality are
all very useful.
4) Some newer UPS's can communicate with their monitoring software
via network connection and SNMP! This is wonderful *if* your
network is on a UPS! Also, beware, I have heard of dealers
advertising "Network UPS" monitoring where the network is
the normal serial connection (no SLIP or PPP).
5) Does the UPS vendor offer support/maintenance contracts. If
they don't even offer them, I would suspect the quality of the
equipment.
If you do have a UPS that does not output a sinusoidal waveform,
some manufacturers *strongly* urge you to not put a surge protector
between the UPS and the computer. The surge protector might mistake
the non-sine waveform as a power surge and try to send it to ground.
This could be bad for your UPS. I don't know if this has happened
or not, but I wouldn't chance it.
02.09
Q: Should I make sure I have a support/maintenance contract for my
UPS systems?
A: Some people strongly recommend this, but to be honest, I don't
know how important it is. I haven't had any UPS's long enough
to have enough of them fail to know what the failure modes are
likely to be. Some people, with more experience than I in these
matters, insist that a UPS support/maintenance contract is as
important as your computer support/maintenance contract. I can't
argue with them. In any case, it's almost certainly worth
pricing at any rate.
02.10
Q: What sort of maintenance can I perform myself?
A: One good thing you might want to do is periodically test the
UPS's and their failure modes. A good time to do this might be
right after after a periodic level 0 backup. Nobody is logged
in and you've got full backups of the machines. Throw the
circuit breaker with the UPS on it to simulate and outage and
see how the transition goes. Note that some UPS vendors suggest
that testing an UPS by pulling the plug from the wall is *not*
a good idea (Tripp Lite is one of them). These UPS units like
to have a good idea of what ground looks like. It is likely that
unplugging just about any UPS for a short amount of time would
not be too dangerous (don't take my word for it, though!), but
in all cases, throwing a circuit breaker would be a better thing
to do.
It might be useful to install a GFI (Ground Fault Interrupter)
socket to facilitate this testing without having to pull the plug,
especially if you don't have your UPS protected machines on
an isolated circuit (which you probably should). These are the
sockets found in most modern kitchens and bathrooms with a red
and a black button. You push the latter to cut power and the
former to restore power.
Those UPS units that use lead-acid batteries (that's most of
them, I'm told) do not have a battery memory and should be run
dry as few times as possible. It's probably not a bad investment
to do this once on one UPS out of a largish batch to learn how
much UPS time you can expect in a real power outage. Note:
depending on the manufacturer, UPS batters can be expected to
last between about 1 and 5 years before they ought to be replaced.
As a UPS gets older, its battery life will become shorter. Of
course there's no way to reliably test how long it is without
running the battery down and you don't want to do that because
they have lead acid batteries. <Sigh.> All of these are very
good reasons to get a support contract for them that includes
periodic battery replacement. At the very least, you can figure
that the batteries will still be good at the end of the UPS
warranty figure, so that's a good place to start guesswork.
02.11
Q: Isn't a UPS just a glorified power strip/surge protector with
some batteries and a little power conditioning thrown in?
A: Basically. It's also got a power inverter and some other circuitry.
It may also have a timer, thermometer or other gadgets.
02.12
Q: How important is the UPS output waveform?
A: That's a good question, and one is worthy of some debate. One
school of thought holds that one should always run equipment on
the best approximation of sinusoidal input that one can, and that
deviations produce harmonics which may either be interpreted as
signal if they get through a power supply, or may actually damage
the equipment. Another school holds that since almost all
computers use switching-type power supplies, which only draw
power at or near the peaks of the waveforms, the shape of the
input power waveform is not important. Who's right? I don't
know. My *opinion* is that sinusoidal output is worth the
extra money, especially for on-line UPS systems that continually
provide their waveform to the computer. Also, if you don't *know*
that your equipment has a switching-type power supply, you might
want to think twice before buying a low quality UPS.
[ Some of this information from a great article in the October
1994 issue of LAN Magazine, check it out. -npc ]
03:
TOPIC: UPS monitoring/shutdown software.
03.01
Q: If the power is out for a long time, I would like to have my
computer automatically shut itself down gracefully before the
UPS batteries die. Can I do this?
A: Yes. Most UPS manufacturers support software that will do this
for some UPS's on at least some platforms. Ask your UPS vendor
for details.
Q: Okay, how about restarting the system for me once power returns?
A: Fewer software products do this, but many do. Again, ask your
vendor. I do not know of any freely distributable products that
will do this. It doesn't mean that they can't be built, but
vendor software is cheap enough (usually) that it's probably not
worth building.
03.02
Q: How does it work? I'm a starving (fill in the blank) and I really
don't want to pay for software unless I absolutely have to.
A: Usually, there is a serial connection running from a UPS into
your computer. The UPS sends information along the serial line
as it goes. If you can decode which pins contain which information,
how the information is formatted and figure out what it wants to
hear from the computer side, you're all set. Make sure you have
the right serial cable and know how the pins map between DB9 and
DB25 as both your computer and your UPS may take either.
Since UPS units with network based monitoring capabilities are
appearing on the market, we can hopefully get something that will
communicate with those units.
Here is a skeleton script provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com.
Definitely check this out as a starting point, but don't expect
it to do anything meaningful without some work.
---------start upsd.sh-------------
#! /bin/sh
# Shut down system in case of extended power failure
# This should be the serial port to which the UPS is connected
# This port must be set to block on open until the DCD line
# is asserted - many UNIX systems have this determined by
# the minor device number, if not, see if there is some way
# to enable this behavior on your system
PORT=/dev/ttya
# Ok, this should block until there is a power failure
: > $PORT
# If we reach this point, we've lost power
wall << EOF
The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!
EOF
# call shutdown (or init or whatever)
exec shutdown
-----------end--------------------
03.03
Q: Hmmm... that sounds kinda complicated. Has someone already done
this?
A: Any solution would almost certainly be vendor specific. However,
some brave souls have provided partial functionality for certain
vendors' UPS's. I don't know the original source, but I have a
copy available for anonymous FTP at navigator.jpl.nasa.gov in
the pub/src/UPS directory as upsd.tar.Z. I haven't tried it and
I don't honestly know if it even works.
Note: Different UPS's produce different sorts of signals. Just
installing this already built package may require a great deal of
work. The cabling can be complicated, etc.. I would be
interested in hearing where this software does/doesn't work.
Another good example, that probably works straight away for
SunOS 4.1.X machines using APC Back-UPS devices, is also
available on navigator for anonymous FTP in the pub/src/UPS
directory is pf.c. It was written by Ronald Florence
(ron@mlfarm.com). It looks like a nice framework for expansion
to other OS platforms and UPS implementations. Give it a try.
03.04
Q: I can't find monitoring software that will work on my configuration.
What should I do?
A: Well, it seems you have a few choices:
1) Build your own. See item 03.02.
2) Use something freely distributable. See item 03.03.
3) Lean on your UPS vendor to port to your platform.
4) Try a different vendor that supports your platform.
See item 05.01.
03.05
Q: What other software is out there?
A: Software packages for UPS machines are getting more sophisticated.
Most provide some level of power and status monitoring, but
lately there are more GUI's, more interactive packages, SNMP
support, and even call-out paging. See the software section
05.03 for more info.
04:
TOPIC: How big a UPS do I need?
04.01
Q: How are the "sizes" of UPS's determined?
A: Typically, a UPS has a VA rating. The VA rating is the maximum
number of Volts * Amps it can deliver. The VA rating is not the
same as the power drain (in Watts) of the equipment. Computers
are notoriously non-resistive. A typical PF (power factor:
Watts/VA) for workstations may be as low as 0.6, which means that
if you record a drain of 100 Watts, you need a UPS with a VA
rating of 167. Some literature suggests that 0.7 may be a
good conversion factor, but this will depend heavily on the
machine. WARNING: Don't take my word for it! Note: Some UPS's
can continue to deliver power if the VA rating is exceeded, they
merely can't provide above their VA rating if the power goes.
Some can't provide power above their VA rating at all. Some may
do something really nasty if you try. In any case, I *strongly*
recommend not doing this under *any* circumstances.
04.02
Q: How can I tell what VA rating I need for my equipment?
A: First, when possible, get VA rather than wattage ratings. See
Q04.01 above.
There are a couple of ways:
1) Direct measurement. You can get equipment to measure
the current draw of your equipment directly. You may
or may not have access to this. If you are part of an
organization that has it's own facilities/electrical
type people, they're likely to be able to do this. They
might help you out if you ask nice.
2) Compare notes. If you know someone with the same setup
you're using, ask them what they use and how close they
are to the maximum VA rating.
3) Use a chart. Most vendors can help you out for common
equipment. If you have an unusual setup, or mix
vendors a lot, you're probably out of luck here.
4) Use the equipment rating. Most pieces of computer
equipment have a power rating on some back panel. This
number is usually high, as it is necessary for the
manufacturer to play it safe or they'll get sued.
Note: Method 1 is by far the best, method 2 and 3 are secondary,
method 4 is usually overkill, but pretty safe. There are some
examples in section 4.6, but the information is probably worth
what you paid for it :-)
04.03
Q: Hmmm... seems like a tough thing to determine.
A: Yeah, it can be. It's also very important. If you get a UPS
that's too big, then you've overpaid, but your equipment can
survive a longer outage. If you get a UPS that's too small,
then you could be in deep trouble. Therefore, I recommend that
you be conservative in buying these things, unfortunately, this
costs money.
04.04
Q: What else should I consider?
A: It would be nice to know how long your site's typical power
outages are. In some places, with nice weather and a flaky
power grid, the power is almost never out for more than 5 minutes,
but this could happen quite frequently. In this case, you may
as well use a UPS with a VA rating close to your equipment
rating with no extra batteries. If your area has longer outages,
in the half hour or hour range, as is often the case in
thunderstorm country, you can either buy UPS's with multiples
of the VA rating of the equipment, since oversizing a VA rating
for a UPS has the effect of lengthening the amount of time your
equipment can stay up in case of a power outage, or you can buy
additional battery units for a smaller UPS. You can probably
get away with doing simple math to determine how much longer a
larger UPS will keep your equipment running, but I recommend
running a few tests before committing to a large purchase
order. Also, your UPS vendor will almost certainly be glad
to help you size the equipment you need. If all else fails
and you guess wrong, or move equipment to a location with
different power status, you may be really, really glad if you
bought a UPS that can have additional battery packs added.
04.05
Q: How about I use one of these UPS thingies for a laser printer?
A: Don't *ever* do this. If you ever measured the current draw
of a laser printer during startup (and during printing) you'd
be stunned at what it pulls. All UPS manufacturers I know of
tell you not to do this.
Okay, I have to back down from this. I know APC, just as an
example, now does rate some of their UPS units for use with
certain laser printers. Not that I think this is a good
idea, mind you. In general, they are difficult to size and
rarely do they require the same level of uptime as servers.
In any case, don't do this without specific approval of
your UPS vendor.
04.06
Q: So, what sorts of UPS sizes do you use on your equipment?
A: BIG DISCLAIMER. I disclaim everything about these figures.
At best, they are very, very rough. Heck, I may be lying.
Don't trust them. Here they are anyway.
Note also, this is what the equipment apparently PULLS, not
the UPS sizes that are on them. Generally, I've been using
UPS's that are about 2X the VA ratings shown. At the very
least, I would using UPS sized 1.5X the VA ratings here.
400 VA:
Sparc 2 with 3 600 MB disks, 1 200 MB disk, 1 exabyte 8200
tape drive, 19" color monitor.
600 VA:
HP 750 with 4 1.3 GB disks, internal 4mm tape drive and internal
CD-ROM drive, external disk cabinet and 19" color monitor.
500 VA:
SPARC 2GX clone. 1 1.2 GB disk, 4 2.0 GB disks, 2 tape drives,
1 CD-ROM drive, "big" monitor.
300 VA:
Sparc 2 clone with 100W power supply, internal 424 disk, 16"
color monitor, external 1 GB disk drive.
Another word of warning, don't assume that power requirements
scale with compute power and number of peripherals, ESPECIALLY
if they are different architectures. Older equipment, CPU's,
disks, monitors, whatever almost universally requires more
power than new equipment. For example, it seems that an HP
9000/425e with 1 internal 420 MB disk and 19" color monitor
pulls a lot more power than a HP 9000/715 with an internal
1.3 GB disk, CD-ROM drive and more modern 19" color monitor.
Again, the moral is don't assume.
05:
TOPIC: Specific manufacturer's information.
05.01
Q: What vendors are there and what do they produce?
A: Here is a very incomplete list, based only on what I know.
Please give me information to expand it. I make no claims
as to the accuracy of this information. It is mostly based
on personal recommendations and vendor propoganda.
Note: The October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine has a great
vendor list. I have used it to update many of the entries
here. However, there is a lot of information available
there that I don't have space to include here. This
article is an excellent starting point for comparative pricing
on UPS equipment.
05.02 UPS Hardware (and software) manufacturers:
Company: Acme Electric Corp.
43 Argow Place
Nanuet, NY 10954
US Phone: 1-716-968-2400
1-800-833-1373
UPS Products:
250 to 1400 VA standby UPS products, 1000 and 2000 VA
on-line UPS products. Shutdown/startup and SNMP
software for LAN Manager, Netware 3.x, 4.x, UNIX and
VINES.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
with additional information by npc.
------------------------
Company: Advanced Electronic Systems, Inc.
2005 Lincoln Way East
Chambersburg, PA 17201
US Phone: 1-800-345-1280
Email: None known
UPS Products:
Stediwatt UPS: Designed specifically for use with NeXTSTEP.
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
------------------------
Company: Alpha Technologies
US Phone: 1-206-647-2360
1-800-322-5742
UPS Products:
600 to 15000 VA line-interactive UPS systems, SW
with shutdown and SNMP support. 250 to 750 VA
standby UPS systems.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: APC, American Power Conversion
US Address: 132 Fairgrounds Road
P.O. Box 278
West Kingston, RI 02892
FR Address: 4, rue Ste Claire Deville
Zac du Mandinet-Batiment Espace
LOGNES
77447 MARNE LA VALLEE Cedex 2
FRANCE
US & CAN Phone: 1-800-800-4272
Europe Phone: (+33) 1.64.62.59.00
World Wide Phone: (401) 789-5735
Email: none known
UPS Products:
Smart UPS in sizes up to 2000 VA. The Smart UPS's do
monitoring and can shutdown multiple machines using the
PowerChute software. I recommend putting these on
computers. SNMP adaptor can be installed.
Back UPS same as Smart UPS except that you cannot
communicate interactively with the UPS and it will not
support SNMP. I recommend putting these on dumb equipment
like network equipment, X Terminals and Macintoshes (sorry,
I couldn't resist.)
Matrix UPS a modular "fault-tolerant" system. Any
module, except the insulation unit, can be "hot-swapped"
at any time. Also additional battery modules can be added,
again, while the system is running. SNMP adaptor can be
installed.
Software:
PowerChute, PowerChute PLUS. They produce it themselves.
Supported on: SunOS, HP-UX, SCO, AIX, AT&T UNIX,
Interactive UNIX, XENIX, and probably others by now.
Contributed by:
APC information contributed by Nick Christenson,
npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov without consultation with
APC. Additional information provided by Joe Moss,
joe@morton.rain.com. I have no affiliation with APC
except as a satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: Best Power Technology, Inc.
P.O. Box 280
Necedah, WI 54646-9899
US Phone: 1-800-356-5794
Email: None known
UPS Products:
FERRUPS: Ferroresonant-Based, Line-Interactive UPS, sizes
from 500 VA - 18 KVA.
Features: Standard power features, serial line
communications, runtime monitoring, logging,
automatic shutdown with optional software, user
configurable.
FORTRESS: Advanced, line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 360
VA - 2 KVA.
PATRIOT: Low-Cost Standby Power Systems, 250 VA - 850 VA.
Contributed by: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
------------------------
Company: Clary Corporation
Address: Clary Corporations
320 W Clary Ave
San Gabriel, CA 91776
US Phone: 818 287-6111
UPS Products:
I'm not sure of the entire line, but their PC series includes
[ On-line -npc ] UPS ranging from 400 to 1500 VA [ 450 to 2400
VA -npc] with surge and noise suppression. Voltage regulation
to 3%, frequency to 1 Hz, RS232 signal output, LED load and
charge indicators. Sine wave output, Alarm, etc..
[ SW will do shutdown/startup and SNMP for LAN Manager, LAN
Server, Netware 3.X, 4.X, Unix, VINES, Windows NT, and OS/2.
-npc ]
Contributed by: Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com who has no relation
to Clary Corporation except as a user.
Additions by npc from October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Controlled Power Company
1955 Stephenson Hwy.
Troy, MI 48083
US Phone: 1-800-521-4792
1-313-528-3700
US Fax: 1-313-528-0411
UPS Products:
UPS, AC regulators, power conditioners. They
will do custom work.
[ On-line UPS from 400 to 60000 VA. Software
with shutdown/startup and SNMP functions for
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare
3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES and Windows NT -npc ]
Contact: David Gerds (Sales)
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Additions by npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Data General
UPS Products:
Data General repackages another vendor's UPS's (from
Exide?) with some sort of special cable. They deserve
some mention since they provide UPS monitoring software
built in to the AViiON (their UN*X boxen) line. It can
be managed through sysadm(1M).
Contributed by: Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
------------------------
Company: DELTEC
2727 Kurtz St.
San Diego, CA 92110-9980
US Phone: 1-800-854-2658
Email: None known
UPS Products:
"Most technologically advanced *true* on-line UPS."
[ 400 to 2200 VA line-interactive UPS systems.
Software with shutdown/startup and SNMP for
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetBIOS,
NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT and OS/2.
-npc ]
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Additions by npc from October 1994, LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Easy Options IBM Corporation
Address: IBM Corporations
Easy Options
Dept. WC3J
P.O. Box 2150
Atlanta, Ga 30301-9948
US Phone: Unknown.
UPS Products:
UPS ranging from 250 VA to 600 VA with surge and noise suppression.
Sine wave output, Test/Alarm, etc..
These UPS's come with an insurance policy. If your UPS damages
your systems, they'll pay you up to $25,000.
Software:
Works with APC's PowerChute software.
I doubt that IBM is making their own UPS's rather than repackaging
someone elses, but I'll be glad to post a correction if they are.
Contributed by: Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
who has no relation to IBM, or Easy Options except as
a satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: EFI Electronics
US Phone: 1-801-977-9009
1-800-877-1174
UPS Products:
400 to 1250 VA Standby UPS systems. Software
with shutdown/startup and SNMP for LAN Manager,
LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES,
Windows NT.
Contributed by: npc, from October 1994 issue of LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Elgar Power Systems Components
9250 Brown Deer Road
San Diego, CA 92121
US Phone: 1-800-733-5427
1-619-450-0085
US Fax: 1-619-458-0267
UPS Products:
UPS, Line Conditioners, AC regulators.
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
------------------------
Company: Emerson Electric Co., Computer Power Div.
US Address: 9650 Jeronimo Road
Irvine, CA 92718, USA
UK Address: Elgin Drive, Swindon
Wiltshire SN2-6DX, England
FR Address: 8, Rue de l'Esterel
Silic 502
94623 Rungis Cedex
France
IT Address: SICE S.p.A. [Note national Name!]
Via Rossini 6
20098 San Giuliano Milanese
Italy
US Phone: 1-800-BACKUPS
UK Phone: +44 458 841898
FR Phone: +33 146 862336
EMail: n/a
Products:
Accupower GOLD Series:
UPSes for 750, 1000, 1500, 2100 VA, the latter with
external Batt Pack. Connector for {Power,Accu}Mon S/W.
5 yr Batt Life. Good Display (3 Status LEDs, Load
and Batt Charge LED Bargraphs). Switches positioned
wrong (Main Power Switch on Front, Batt Check/Alarm
off on Back - I'd prefer them the other Way 'round).
other UPSes?
PowerMon Software:
Triggers for Outage, long Outage, Batt low. Uses one
serial Connector. Logging and Warnings to Users.
Requires special Cable (included in PowerMon Kit).
NOTE: The "Batt low" Trigger does not work "on SunOS
4.1.1 and above due to OS Limitations". >:-C I don't
know whether this includes Solaris 2.x.
AccuMon Software:
Reported to support all Kinds of fancy Communication
Items (gathering Power Line and internal UPS Data,
test Batt Cap periodically and announce Batt Aging,
switch off UPS on Computer Command, Logging
Facilities for all these Functions)
Other Software?
Contributed by: Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
who has no relation to Emerson.
------------------------
Company: Exide
8521 Six Forks Road
Raleigh, NC 27615
US & Canada Phone: 1-800-554-3448
1-919-872-3020
UPS Products:
800 to 1500 VA On-line UPS systems. Software
does shutdown/startup and SNMP for NetWare 3.X,
4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT
Contributed by: npc from October 1994 LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Hewlett-Packard
UPS Products:
HP resells 4 models of the DELTEC 2000 series
with PowerMon software with VA ratings of
2400, 3600 for both 120 and 240 VAC.
HP resells 2 of APC's Smart-UPS modes, the 600
and 1250 VA models, again with HP's PowerMon
software. Technical support is handled directly
by APC.
HP also offers the Power Trust family of UPS for
use with their HP 9000/800 series machines.
Power monitoring software for HP-UX is included.
These appear to be created by HP themselves.
They come in 600 VA, 120 VAC (deskside) and 3.0
KVA, 240 VAC (rackmount) sizes. The 3.0 KVA
version weighs close to 400 lbs.!
The big Power Trust boxes have a test/alarm silence
button and a rocker switch which controls the output
power. There is no bypass and it relies on a power
distribution strip which is built into the enclosure.
Contributed by: Tom Myers, tvmyers@icdc.delcoelect.com
------------------------
Company: Hipotronics Inc.
Route 22
Brewster, NY 10509
US Phone: 1-914-279-8091
US Fax: 1-914-279-2467
UPS Products:
UPS, Line Conditioners, AC Regulators.
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
------------------------
Company: Intellipower
US Phone: 1-714-587-0155
UPS Products:
650 to 1100 VA On-line UPS systems with
software for shutdown/startup and SNMP for
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare
3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, AIUX,
NetWareLite, LANtastic
Contributed by: npc from October 1994 LAN Magazine.
------------------------
Company: Liebert
US Phone: 1-614-888-0246
1-800-877-9222
UPS Products:
250 to 600 VA Standby UPS, 600 to 2000 VA
Line-interactive UPS, 750 to 18000 VA On-line
UPS systems. Software does shutdown/startup
and SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server,
NetBIOS, NetWare 3.x, 4.X, UNIX, VINES,
Windows NT, OS/2.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Minuteman
US Phone: 1-214-446-7363
1-800-238-7272
UPS Products:
300 to 425 VA Standby UPS, 500 to 2000 Line-
interactive UPS, 500 to 1000 VA On-line UPS.
Software does SNMP for AppleShare, LAN Manager,
LAN Server, NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES,
Windows NT.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Oneac
US Phone: 1-708-816-6000
1-800-327-8801
UPS Products:
400 to 1800 VA Isolated Line-Interactive UPS
with software that does shutdown/startup and
SNMP for LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare 3.X,
4.X, UNIX, VINES and Windows NT systems.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Philtek Electronics Ltd.
2471 Vauxhaul Place
Richmond, BC
V6V 1Z5 Canada
Phone: 1-604-270-4642
Fax: 1-604-270-8343
UPS Products:
UPS's.
Contact: Bob Smedley
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
------------------------
Company: Pylon Electronic Development
5020 Fairway St.
Lachine, PQ
H8 1B8 Canada
Phone: 1-514-633-8787
Fax: 1-514-636-1970
UPS Products:
UPS's/Power conditioners, modular/industrial
Contact: Graeme Turnbull
Contributed by: Donald McLachlan, don@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
------------------------
Company: Sola
UPS Products:
Apparently Sola repackages Deltec UPS systems.
I have no other information.
------------------------
Company: Square D-EPE/TOPAZ
US Phone: 1-714-557-1636
1-800-344-0570
UPS Products:
250 to 700 VA Standby UPS, 600 to 2000 VA
Line-interactive UPS, 900 to 10000 On-line
UPS. Software does shutdown and SNMP on
AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetBIOS,
NetWare 3.X, 4.X, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT,
OS/2.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Superior Electric
US Phone: 1-203-585-4500
UPS Products:
400 to 2200 VA On-line UPS. Software does
shutdown/startup on AppleShare, LAN Manager,
LAN Server, NetWare, UNIX, VINES, Windows NT.
Contributed by: npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
------------------------
Company: Toshiba International Corporation
US Address: Industrial Division
13131 West Little York Rd.
Houston, TX 77041
US Phone: 1-713-466-0277
US Fax: 1-800-321-1412
Canada Phone: 1-800-527-1204
UPS Products:
Single and three phase double conversion on-line UPS,
from 600 VA to 50 KVA. Serial line interface and
auto-shutdown software available.
Contributed by: Seth J. Bradley, sbradley@scic.intel.com,
a very satisfied customer.
------------------------
Company: Tripp Lite
500 N. Orleans
Chicago, IL 60610-4188
US Phone: 1-312-329-1601
1-755-5401
Email: None known
UPS Products:
On-line UPSs with pure Sine Wave output. [ 250 to 1250 VA
Standby UPS, 250 to 2000 Line-interactive UPS, 300 to
2000 VA On-line UPS. Software does shutdown/startup, SNMP
and RMON for AppleShare, LAN Manager, LAN Server, NetWare,
UNIX, VINES, Windows NT, OS/2, LANtastic. -npc ]
Contributed by: Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Additional info by npc from LAN Magazine, October 1994.
05.03 Software products:
Company: ResponseWare Inc.
US Phone: 1-800-673-4777
Email: responseguy@AOL.com
Products:
ResponseWare is software that performs a great number of
services for UPS users. ResponseWare uses a MS Windows
console as its control point. The console communicates
with both a UPS and the server. It has built-in out call
paging and they offer a remote monitoring service where
they can dial-in, diagnose problems and dispatch help.
The software also can monitor temperature, humidity,
security, life/safety, etc..
ResponseWare works on Novell (NLM), AS/400, HP 9000, Sun,
and VAX platforms.
It works with APC, Best, Deltec, Exide, Liebert and TrippLite
UPS products.
Cost is $99 per server and $199 for the MS-Windows Console
program. Monthly monitoring charges begin at $99/month.
Information provided by Bob Hunter of ResponseWare provides
this information.
------------------------
On the NeXTSTEP front, there is a company called BenaTong (?)
which sells a software package called PowerGuardian for NeXTSTEP
only. It will work with APC, TrippLite and UNISON UPS's. If,
for example, you call APC and ask for PowerChute for NeXT, they
will refer you to Power Guardian.
Contributed by: Chuck Bennett, (chuck@benatong.com) who works
for this company.
------------------------
Also for NeXTstep, Max Hailperin wrote a package for monitoring
Best Fortress UPS units called GACUPS. It consists of a daemon
and a GUI. The daemon will shut the NeXT machine down gracefully
and do logging. It also answers queries from the GUI. The GUI
displays status information. It should be available on the usual
NeXTstep anonymous FTP sites. One place you might want to check
is in : ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu/pub/next/submissions/. Any
reports on how it works?
Contributed by Max Hailperin (max@kolmogorov.gac.edu).
05.04 Other companies: ITT Power System Corp
Digital Equipment Corporation. (They probably
repackage someone else's stuff, but
they're likely to support it and you
can order it from their catalog.)
I'd appreciate any information I can get on these.
06:
TOPIC: Bibliography
There are many good references and review articles on UPS
information. Some of the best sources can be found in
vendor information. There is great reference material woven
into their propoganda. Some other good sources are:
"The Dranetz Field Handbook for Power Quality Analysis",
1991, Dranetz Technologies, 1000 New Durham Rd.,
Edison, NJ 08818, 1-908-287-3680.
"National Electrical Code Handbook", 1993, National Fire
Protection Association, One Batterymarch Park,
P.O. Box 9101, Quincy, MA 02269, 1-617-770-3000.
"Grounding and Shielding in Facilities", 1990, by Ralph
Morrison and Warren H. Lewis, John Wiley & Sons,
New York, ISBN 0-471-83807-1.
"Battling Power Problems", by Alan Frank, LAN Magazine,
October 1994, pp 65-72, Miller Freeman, Inc..
"UPS Chart", by the LAN staff, LAN Magazine, October
1994, pp 74-84, Miller Freeman, Inc..
07:
TOPIC: Acknowledgements
I would like to thank Charles Rhoades (cwr@zeus.jpl.nasa.gov) for
his sage remarks on my draft of this document.
I would like to thank Kevin R. Ray (kevin@kray.com) for sending me
the freely distributable upsd software and Ronald Florence
(ron@mlfarm.com) for contributing the pf program.
Thanks also to Don Deal (Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu) for a great
many valuable suggestions and that great section on the types
of UPS units.
The following people have all made valuable contributions to this
document:
Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com
Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu
David E A Wilson, david@cs.uow.edu.au
Edward Hartnett, ejh@larry.gsfc.nasa.gov
Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com
Kurt Hillig, khillig@chem.lsa.umich.edu
Robert D. Freeman, rdf@thermo.chem.okstate.edu
Jochen Bern, bern@kleopatra.Uni-Trier.DE
Dave Gruhn, dgruhn@fuzzy.eskimo.com
Steve Welch, smw@columbine.cgd.ucar.edu
Ron Tansky, ron.t@bix.com
Andrew J. Templin, nosilla@ohionet.org
Chuck Bennett, chuck@benatong.com
M.V.S. Ramanath, ram@sclara.qms.com
Max Hailperin, max@kolmogorov.gac.edu
Larry Moss, moss@cvs.rochester.edu
Please note that I take full blame for any errors or omissions.
From: peter@nextlectic (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PNI & TTYDSP... Do they play nice?
Date: 10 Dec 1994 15:16:14 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <3ccgnu$aj2@sundog.tiac.net>
Keywords: TTYDSP help
I seem to be getting conflicting information on this...
I currently have PNI 1.12 installed, running to a Zoom V.32 turbo.
This, of course, crawls. I'd like to buy a TTYDSP (for my cube)
and plug in a 28.8 modem. Somewhere I remember seeing that
PNI 1.12 does not work with the TTYDSP interface. Can anybody clear this
up (i.e. are you running this configuration) ?
thanx,
-peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
From: dietrich@nova.nbg.de (Dietrich Streifert)
Subject: How can I turn on HD write caches on DEC DSP 3105 (3107L)?
Message-ID: <D0L5sp.JF@nova.nbg.de>
Sender: root@nova.nbg.de (Operator)
Organization: Roleplayers Paradise
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 08:19:37 GMT
Hello everywhere....
Does anyone know how to turn on the write cache of a DEC DSP 3105 (or
DEC DSP 3107L) harddisk?
I tried the new SCSI_Inspector.app (version from
SCSI2_ToolBox.941207.NI.bs.tar.gz ) and aspi-wce.exe from hasc.ca
with no success. Are there any jumpers? Setting the read cache with
SCSI_Inspector.app works. If anyone has a DEC DSP Drive with write
cache on, please send me a short email note.
Any help to this subject would be great!
Thanks and bye...
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90449 Nuernberg
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Date: Thu, 08 Dec 1994 19:29:38 +0100
From: Boris_Zentner@ax.fido.de (Boris Zentner)
Subject: Re: QUANTUM Telephone No. ?
Message-ID: <2ee7b302%ax.fido.de@p20.f108.n6000.z242.fidonet.org>
References: <3bn9sa$1kef@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
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From: hoff@pluto.darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How can I turn on HD write caches on DEC DSP 3105 (3107L)?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 11 Dec 1994 00:07:43 GMT
Organization: German Research Center for Information Technology
Message-ID: <3cdfsf$q5k@sonne.darmstadt.gmd.de>
References: <D0L5sp.JF@nova.nbg.de>
Dietrich Streifert (dietrich@nova.nbg.de) wrote:
>Does anyone know how to turn on the write cache of a DEC DSP 3105 (or
>DEC DSP 3107L) harddisk?
>I tried the new SCSI_Inspector.app (version from
>SCSI2_ToolBox.941207.NI.bs.tar.gz ) and aspi-wce.exe from hasc.ca
>with no success. Are there any jumpers? Setting the read cache with
>SCSI_Inspector.app works. If anyone has a DEC DSP Drive with write
>cache on, please send me a short email note.
Well, I'm sorry I can't be helpful, but have to report the same problem
with my DEC DSP 5200 - so you're not alone. SCSI2_Toolbox first says that
turning the write cache on is OK, then a bunch of 'invalid scsi request'
messages appear on the console. aspi-wce doesn't report any errors, but
the cache is still off afterwards. It seems the older DEC drives either
have no write cache or there's more magic to it. The manual doesn't
mention any write cache, so I guess we bought real dummies :-(
Holger
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Thicknet to thin/10BaseT converter?
Message-ID: <1994Dec9.011255.6379@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <3bt56m$3dr@explorer.clark.net>
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 01:12:55 GMT
trance9@clark.net (Trance 9) writes:
>I recently picked up an old sun 2/120, and would like to network
>it to my NextStation. The 2/120 has (I beleive) a thick ethernet
>connector while the NeXT has two connectors which are (I beleive) thin and
>10BaseT. Is there a way to hook these via ethernet, like a converter?
Yes, no problem. Just buy a transceiver, with on one side a
so-called AUI connector (to be connected to the Sun) and on
the other side instead of the connection for thick coax, a
connector with a BNC plug. Then one piece of thin coax with
BNC connectors plus 2 thin-coax terminators and you are ready
to go.
Willem
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: athan@bwit169.morgan.com (Andrew Athan)
Subject: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Message-ID: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 20:00:48 GMT
I have a COMPAQ Prolinea w/ 32M of RAM installed and am using NeXTSTEP 3.2
FIP.
NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM, and
after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks it has
32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
Any clues?
aca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: inkjet woes on a NeXT Color Printer
Message-ID: <1994Dec10.220836.1155@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <D0K7wp.7Kn@nbn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 22:08:36 GMT
In article <D0K7wp.7Kn@nbn.com> kehoe@fortuity.sf.ca.us (Daniel Miles
Kehoe) writes:
> I'm helping The Printer Works (Hayward, CA) put together a program
> to replace failed inkjet heads on NeXT Color Printers.
>
> I'm not a Color Printer user, but I've been told that the cyan head
> has an unusually high failure rate. I can't find any news postings
At office, I use a 4079 IBM color inkjet printer. the cyan head failed after less than 700 pages... Then, 50 pages after, the black also failed.
> Daniel Kehoe
> Fortuity Marketing Consulting
> kehoe@fortuity.sf.ca.us
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Message-ID: <D0o2ov.5Ao@eskimo.com>
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 22:04:44 GMT
Andrew Athan (athan@bwit169.morgan.com) wrote:
: I have a COMPAQ Prolinea w/ 32M of RAM installed and am using NeXTSTEP 3.2
: FIP.
: NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM, and
: after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks it has
: 32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
I may be "all wet behind the ears" with this, Andrew; so heed my
thoughts with a grain of salt. Is the Prolinea an ISA bus system? If
so, then perhaps NS does not know how to read beyond the standard 16M
address space of an ISA bus. I know that OS's such as DOS and OS/2
know how to page extended memory(memory that is outside the standard
memory address range), which of course adds overhead. The EISA bus,
on the other hand, does not have the 16M limit.
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>< Marc J. Salvatori | New NeXTStepper: ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | Searching for .eps/.tiff sources ><
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 600dpi 11x17 inch Color Laser Printer for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 11 Dec 1994 20:27:40 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3cfnbs$3qk@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <3c6ana$8i6@maple.enet.net>
In article <3c6ana$8i6@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow) writes:
|>In article <1994Dec7.184053.15877@pcp.ca>, Wespestad_Eric@pcp.ca (Eric
Wespestad) says:
|>>
|>>Does anybody know of a good 11 x 17 inch plain paper color laser printer
|>>that is supported under NEXTSTEP with at least 600dpi resolution? It
|>>should ideally output more than 8 pages per minute, and cost less than
|>>$3000 (is this unrealistic?). I would be interested to hear about
|>>non-color printers in the same configuration too.
|>
|>As far as the size of printer goes, I believe Printer Works (don't have their
number
|>but they're in the east bay (510 area code) sez they sell Printers that
|>workk with Next (11x17, dunno if they're colour).
|>
|>Give them a try or maybe try the next HP Laserjet 4 colour.
Hi,
To the best of my knowledge, no A3 Color laserprinter exists in the lowend
market. The only A3 Color lasers that I know of are the Color copiers from
different vendors including my own, Xerox. Most or all of these copiers can
connect to a front-end, a RIP, and thus do A3 or 11" x 17" full Color prints.
But the price is no way near what you want.... up and beyond 25000$ !!!
There are currently three Color printers in a lower price range, around
8000-10000$ (see Byte December for a test of these), the HP, Xerox and the QMS
printers, all of them will do A4 Color, but not A3 or 11" x 17"...
Best regards
Michael
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From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: color printing
Date: 11 Dec 1994 20:37:42 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3cfnum$3rg@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <1994Nov18.132915.3010@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
In article <1994Nov18.132915.3010@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> synchronicity!sjb (Stephen
J. Bottas) writes:
>>Does anyone know if NS supports color printing for my cube?
>>Which printers might I try?
>>Many thanks.
Hi
NEXTSTEP most certainly supports Color printers, they even sell one (well,
maybe not anymore, but you can still get it).
However, you need to look into different issues such as quality, speed and
price. If your final colorprint is to be sold for some purpose, then you will
be best of with doing a PostScript file containing your document and have that
printed at your local print with a Color copier with a frontend connected.
If you "just" want "simple" Color for your own private use, then a lot of
different printers out there might do the job, and well too.
Best regards
Michael
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From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Seagate ST12400N/NC question
Date: 11 Dec 1994 20:52:35 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <3cfoqj$3rp@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <3arq1f$21v@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <3arq1f$21v@netnews.upenn.edu> wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu (Herbert
S. Wilf) writes:
|>I just connected my new Seagate drive to my NeXT, and I don't seem
|>to be able to initialize or even format the disk. I get the following
|>console error:
|>
|>/usr/etc/disk -i -h alex -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8
|>Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9
|>sd1 (3,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x31
|> SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
|>Read of sector 0 failed
|>
|>Does this mean that the drive is physically defective?
No. What it means is that your disk isn t formatted/initailized. You need a
disktab to get it right, here is the one I use for my 12400N (works like a
charm, by the way!):
ST12400N|SEAGATE ST12400N:\
:ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#2621:nt#19:ns#82:ss#1024:rm#5411:\
:fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:r0=a:\
:pa#0:sa#2097000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#4:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:
Edit your ~/etc/disktab to include those lines, and you should be all set. If
you run into problems, let me know if I can help you further...
Best regards
Michael
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Date: 11 Dec 1994 18:13:46 -0500
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cg13a$9tn@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <D0o2ov.5Ao@eskimo.com>
Marc Salvatori writes
> Andrew Athan (athan@bwit169.morgan.com) wrote:
>
> : I have a COMPAQ Prolinea w/ 32M of RAM installed and am using NeXTSTEP 3.2
> : FIP.
>
> : NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM, and
> : after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks it has
> : 32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
>
> I may be "all wet behind the ears" with this, Andrew; so heed my
> thoughts with a grain of salt. Is the Prolinea an ISA bus system? If
> so, then perhaps NS does not know how to read beyond the standard 16M
> address space of an ISA bus. I know that OS's such as DOS and OS/2
> know how to page extended memory(memory that is outside the standard
> memory address range), which of course adds overhead. The EISA bus,
> on the other hand, does not have the 16M limit.
A similar problem is outlined in the nextanswer #1455.
You need to change a bios setting to linear. Its in the document.
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next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: sbrandon@auckland.ac.nz (Steve Brandon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A Speaker Killed my MegaPixel!
Date: 11 Dec 1994 22:46:27 GMT
Organization: Internet Company of New Zealand
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cfvg3$o9s@status>
References: <3c6bqi$t37@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In article <3c6bqi$t37@nntp.Stanford.EDU> guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan
Schofer) writes:
> One question:
> -- Were the speakers that tweaked your monitory of the "shielded"
> sort which are often sold for use with computers? Or are they just
normal
> stereo speakers?
> Just wondering, cuz I just bought some Yamaha YST M10 shielded
> speakers. (They sound surprisingly good for small speakers, by the
way.)
> Even though they're "shielded", I'm still afraid to put them too close
> to my computer. However, such fear may not be justified.
> Thanks,
> Evan Schofer Department of Sociology
Mine were not of the shielded variety. Standard issue NS10M monitors. If
you want to check yours, just wave them near the monitor, and watch for
theatrics. (chanting "ommmmm" optional :-)
My monitor is yet to be degaussed, which I'm assured is the appropriate
method to cure the warping.
--
Steve
sbrandon@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz
NeXTmail welcome!
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet
Date: 12 Dec 1994 00:47:49 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <3cgo65$buu@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online
----------------------------------------------------
A product directory and information server, built around
the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia
announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability
to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP.
This service is online, and can be reached at
http://www.stepwise.com/
http://www.digifix.com/
using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic.
If you are limited to terminal access, Lynx will give you
access to the server as well.
The entries currently consist of
- NeXT Press Releases
- OpenStep WhitePapers
- Third Party Products Directory
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable)
- searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs
- User Group locations
- Mailing List archives and information
Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is
available. You can get information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
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news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.next.com: See the below
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From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough)
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Message-ID: <D0op9J.M34@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
References: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com> <D0o2ov.5Ao@eskimo.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 06:12:54 GMT
In article <D0o2ov.5Ao@eskimo.com> salvo@eskimo.com (Marc Salvatori) writes:
[ ]
>: NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM, and
>: after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks it has
>: 32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
>
>I may be "all wet behind the ears" with this, Andrew; so heed my
>thoughts with a grain of salt. Is the Prolinea an ISA bus system? If
>so, then perhaps NS does not know how to read beyond the standard 16M
>address space of an ISA bus. I know that OS's such as DOS and OS/2
>know how to page extended memory(memory that is outside the standard
>memory address range), which of course adds overhead. The EISA bus,
>on the other hand, does not have the 16M limit.
What 16meg limit? I have 32 on an ISA system. There's some setting in CMOS
(cacheable RAM I think) which needs to be increased to the amount of RAM you
have).
A lot of odd things are said against the ISA bus. Perhaps someone could
summarize what can't be done with it. For example, the transfer rate is
around 5mb/sec and this is way faster than the typical hard drives in use. Yet
we still have hassles with a sound card, which has a small bandwidth, and
Adaptec SCSI controllers. A lot of the problems that exist with NS and the ISA
systems have to do with poor drivers. Even the VL driver for the GUP is not
up to par.
And, of course, we all know the serial driver problems which hopefully will
have been fixed in 3.3 .
Despite all the hassles, there simply isn't another OS around which simplifies
life as much as NS does.
From: johnc@idcube.idsoftware.com (John Carmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: life with a talus notebook
Date: 12 Dec 1994 00:47:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9412120639.AA17051@idcube.idsoftware.com>
I have been using my Talus notebook for a month now, and I am very
pleased with it. I got a fully loaded system (32/500/dx100) with the
docking station. Totally worth it.
Some comments:
The 16 bit video looks great, but is slow. It only gives about 4
megs / second transfer to screen, about 20% the speed of an ATI GUP,
and less than 10% the speed of the wingine in my ecesys system. It's
livable becuase the screen is so small.
You CAN do usefull work with NS in a 640*480 screen, but it takes a
little bit of adjustment. It makes you apreciate your desktop
system.
The battery only lasts about an hour and a half under real use. You
can't hot-swap batteries, either. Any kind of extended work means
you need to plug it in.
The ide hard drive feels slow compared to my desktop scsi.
I was worried about NS driver issues relating to the docking station,
but it turns out that everything works fine. You can configure it
for an ethernet card in the docking station, and when you take it out
it just fails on the device probe and goes on. You can also
configure both a serial mouse and the internal trackball so that you
can use a seperate mouse on the desktop, but it defaults to the
trackball when roaming.
There was a really tiny bug in the Talus video driver (it reported
the pixel depth as RRRRRGGGGGBBBB instead of RRRRRGGGGGBBBBB). I
reported it, and Talus sent me a new driver in a couple days. I was
very pleased with that.
The video signal on an external monitor is not rock solid. It has a
tiny horizontal waver to it. A driver that supports 800*600 on an
external monitor was promised, but I haven't heard anything about it
yet.
Overall, the system seems a bit slow, but it works great, right out
of the box, and it hasn't given me any problems whatsoever. It's not
a replacement for a desktop system, but if you can afford it, it is a
valuable tool.
John Carmack
Id Software
(Quake is coming along well. We are thinking about releasing our NS
based tools to the public this time...)
From: pp001345@interramp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Say it aint so: ND and DOOM II
Date: 12 Dec 1994 05:41:47 GMT
Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link
Message-ID: <3cgnqr$i47@www.interramp.com>
Keywords: DOOM
I read on the Web that there is a chance that DOOM II for Black NS will
not work on NextDimensions! I guess due to the use of the Interceptor
technology for the speed boost...
Any truth to this?
- Dave
From: robert@iam.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Say it aint so: ND and DOOM II
Date: 12 Dec 1994 12:52:11 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Berne, Switzerland
Distribution: world
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References: <3cgnqr$i47@www.interramp.com>
Is Doom 2 already avaliable for NS?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Message-ID: <D0p9on.zM@xenicos.fdn.fr>
Sender: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr ( Francois BIENTZ)
Organization: Individual
References: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 13:33:58 GMT
In article <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
athan@bwit169.morgan.com (Andrew Athan) writes:
>
> I have a COMPAQ Prolinea w/ 32M of RAM installed and am using NeXTSTEP
3.2
> FIP.
>
> NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM,
and
> after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks it
has
> 32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
>
> Any clues?
> aca
try this (works on COMPAQ XE)
edit /NextLibrary/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table as root, changing
a line from :
"Kernel Flags" = "";
to:
"Kernel Flags" = "maxmem=32768";
Francois BIENTZ
franc@xenicos.fdn.fr
From: bauer@kepler.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de (Bauer Sebastian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can't format a Quantum Lightning 730 to 1024 byte/block
Date: 12 Dec 1994 15:39:30 GMT
Organization: Lehrstuhl B fuer Mechanik, Technical University Munich
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3chqri$3kv@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Keywords: Harddisk, Quantum Lightning 730, Format
Hi,
I just bought a Quantum Lightning 730 and I tried to format it to 1024 byte/block
(for performace and usable size gain), but it refuses to change the block-size
(any of the formatting tools like formatter or sdformat replied with
error-messages). From inquieries with these and other software-tools, I know,
that the hard disk still is in SCSI-2 mode or syncron transfer mode, respectively.
Does this have to do anything with not beeing able to format it to 1024 byte/block
and if, how can I change it?
Thank you very much for any help,
Sebastian
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Institute B for Mechanics (Prof. F. Pfeiffer)
Technical University Munich
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bad network error upon bootup of stand-alone machine
Date: 12 Dec 1994 15:28:59 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3chq7r$22p@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Hello there:
I just replaced the power supply and EPROM (V74 from V70) on my turbo slab
and I now get a "Bad network" error each time I boot up. I should point out
I never saw this sequence with the old EPROM (the machine is a stand-alone
machine with an Ethernet terminator on the back).
At this point, it seems like I'm in a Catch-22 since I can't even bypass the
boot sequence to change my configuration. I can replace the old EPROM and
boot up as normal but the old EPROM prevented me from turning the slab off
(I had to pull the power plug to power off - this eventually wore out the
old power supply; hence, I had to replace the EPROM and power supply).
Any suggestions?
Please e-mail me directly since this is probably of little interest to the
rest of netland.
Thanks,
- Alex -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Eybert)
Subject: Re: NeXT Station 17" Colour monitor broken... another one!
Message-ID: <1994Dec11.181947.1055@charon.muc.de>
Sender: pjoe@charon.muc.de (Peter Joe Eybert)
Organization: None
References: <1994Dec10.010112.711@harka>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 18:19:47 GMT
Felix Rauch writes
> Joel J. Barreto (jbarreto@eesun1.tamu.edu) wrote:
> > i had the same problem, however it appears that repairing the monitor
will
> > turn out to be quite expensive. I am looking to buy a new compatible
monitor.
> > what are the brands/models that i can try ?
>
> It's only expensive if you repair it in the official way. If you find
> the right person to do it, it maight be much cheaper. I found a
> 'monitor-doctor' who repaired mine for about $260 and it works
> perfect again.
>
> - Felix
I wonder is there one of those FIMI monitors which is not broken after 3
or 4 years ? It seems that they are but one piece of crap. Mine broke a
few months ago and repairing was really expensive. Maybe I didn't find
the right monitor-doctor. My local TV repair shop wouldn't repair it
because of non-existing plans.
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From: athan@bwit169.morgan.com (Andrew Athan)
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
In-Reply-To: athan@bwit169.morgan.com's message of Sun, 11 Dec 1994 20:00:48 GMT
Message-ID: <ATHAN.94Dec12101358@bwit169.morgan.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: news@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley
References: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 15:13:58 GMT
Regarding my question on how to get NeXTSTEP to recognize all 32M of memory
on a COMPAQ machine (Prolinea 486/66 in this case): A number of people
responded w/ the information in NeXTanswers, which says to turn memory from
"Compaq Compatible" to "Linear" using either ECU (EISA machines) or Setup
(ISA machines). After wasting time with clueless tech support people to
download the latest SETUP utility from COMPAQ, I found that there is no such
option.
This morning, I called COMPAQ tech-support again, and this time the person I
spoke to managed to get in touch with someone who knew about NeXTSTEP. The
correct sollution to this problem involves giving the boot option
maxmem=32768
(e.g., hd()mach_kernel maxmem=32768)
at the "boot:" prompt. On my setup, which involves booting off of a tiny IDE
partition to a SCSI drive, I added this to System.config/Instance0.table ...
Thanks to everyone that replied,
aca
From: chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Playing CDs on white
Date: 12 Dec 1994 09:56:30 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3choau$1m9@panix.com>
I have a PAS16 and a NEC MultiSpin 4xi CD drive, and I'm trying to
play CDs through the PAS16. This works just fine in DOS, but it seems
like NeXTstep is turning off the line-in connector on the sound card
(the connecter that the CD drive is connected to). I know it's
playing because I can hear the music playing through the headphone
port on the CD drive. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Alec
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chuckie@panix.com New York City, NY
From: gbeegle@wiltel13.wiltel.com (Chris Beegle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT 3.2 Sound Support
Date: 12 Dec 1994 15:27:00 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <3chq44$p37@gateway.wiltel.com>
Are there any sound boards that you can buy that will work with NS 3.2? From
what I understand, the Media Vision ProAudio Studio and Spect. and Microsoft
Sound system are all discontinued.. Please Help....
Thanks in advance...
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NeXT ID - gbeegle@wiltel13.wiltel.com - NeXT Mail Welcome....
PC Support @ WilTel Inc.
One Williams Center 29-2
From: arrow@arrow.rhein-main.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: M68060? - Upgrade for slabs?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 05:20:17 GMT
Organization: Individual Network - Rhein-Main
Message-ID: <941212212017.3530AUUnE.arrow@arrow>
References: <3bp3jn$i08@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
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->
-> What happen to the person who was working on the 060 upgrade. Is
->it possible to do, or did the legal problems bog it down, or is it not
->technically feasible. I thought I heard it was being benchmarked. Does
->Motorolla make a clocked doubled 040 that can be plugged into the slab?
->Thanks!
->
->Alan
->
Yes, am I mistaken that Sam Goldberger (or one of the gurus of NeXT-lore)
posted something about a magic clock-doubling device for 25MHzers? What about
it? _Can we buy it_?
-Armin
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From: arrow@arrow.rhein-main.de
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32bit WIDE SCSI HD's
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 05:22:19 GMT
Organization: Individual Network - Rhein-Main
Distribution: world
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Hi all,
I'm going to be getting the new DPT 3224/90W controller when it comes
out this Jan or Feb. This controller will support 32bit Wide SCSI (most wides
today are only 16bit). It also supports upto 21 devices and has on board RAID
support--nice card.
The thing is...I want to get a HD that matches the 32bit WIDE spec.
Most drives today are only 16bit Wide SCSI. Like the 2gig baraccuda W is only
16bit wide.
So the question is, does anyone know of any SCSI drive around the 2gig
range that do 32bit Wide SCSI?
I am led to believe that IBM sells such devices somewhere in the 1 to 4.5 GB
range for their RS6ks. Not sure, though.
-Armin
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From: Solbach@TU-Harburg.d400.De (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micro and DSP-port input stopped working (black HW)
Date: 12 Dec 1994 20:56:10 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cidda$h4n@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
Hi, there!
One of our black NeXT's suddenly stopped reading in sound
via both microphone and DSP-port. How can I find out if this
is due to some hardware failure or if it is caused by a soft-
ware problem? Any help is appreciated.
Regards,
Ludger.
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Avail printers w/ 3.3?
Date: 12 Dec 1994 20:18:52 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3cib7c$g5b@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
We'd like to purchase the
HP Laserjet 4V &
Epson Stylus Color Inkjet
for our Color Slab (soon to be running NS 3.3).
Are there drivers for the above two available? I've been
searching the Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep WWW Server but
I've yet to find anything.
Thanks a bunch for any information you can pass along.
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From: chris@flowcube.stem.com (Christopher Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Installing NS on Gateway 200-P5/100 - Help!!
Date: 12 Dec 1994 19:56:49 GMT
Organization: SyStemix, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ci9u1$1em@iserver.stem.com>
Keywords: gateway, pentium, keyboard, help
Hi,
I'm trying to install NEXTSTEP on a new:
Gateway 2000-P5/100
Booting from the installation floppy (the very first step!) I get as far
as the loading of the keyboard driver ("Registering: PCKeyboard0") and
everything hangs.
NeXT referred me to a NeXTAnswers document dealing with problems with
Gateway "486" keyboard settings and NS. However this doesn't appear to
apply to the pentium we have (it says to change some dip-switch settings
on the motherboard, and ours doesn't appear to have ANY dip-switches!).
I'd sincerely appreciate help from anyone who may have dealt with this
problem, as neither NeXT nor Gateway have the answer.
(Other details- RAM:32MB, video:Diamond Stealth 64w/4MB, network:3COM)
Thanks,
chris
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From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Tape backup Recommendations?
Date: 12 Dec 1994 21:08:51 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <3cie53$gf0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
We would like to purchase a tape backup unit.
Our current hardware is as follows:
1 040 color slab with
406 mb int hd
512 mb ext hd
NEC Intersect CD Rom
Abaton Scan 300/GS
We would like the t.b.u. to be scsi. Speed is not
of the essense, since it will only run
at night.
Any advice or related experiences with them would
be appreciated.
Thanks!
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: UPS automatic shutdown
Message-ID: <thompsonD0pu96.ApE@netcom.com>
Cc: okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
References: <8DEC199418333851@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 20:58:18 GMT
BenaTong sells what you need.. PowerGuardian. Try info@benatong.com.
Eric
David Okerson <okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>I would like to find a program which will monitor a UPS and
>automatically shut down NEXTSTEP on Intel (Dell) hardware if
>a power outage lasts longer than a specified period or the
>battery voltage drops too low. The UPS manufacturers sell such
>software (for example, APC's "PowerChute") for command Unix systems,
>but apparently not for NEXTSTEP.
>
>Does such a program exist as either free, shareware, or commercial
>software?
>
>Best regards,
>David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Success with HP JetStor 5000e (DAT drive)?
Message-ID: <thompsonD0puC3.Azw@netcom.com>
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 21:00:03 GMT
I'm looking for a DAT to use with NS/Intel, and heard good things
about the HP JetStor 5000e. If you have experience with this drive
and NS I'd like to hear about it..
If you love a different DAT drive you use with NS, I'd like to
know that too. I plan to use this drive with SafetyNet..
thanks,
Eric
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't format a Quantum Lightning 730 to 1024 byte/block
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 17:59:16 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ivBL4C00iVDQ81ytE@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3chqri$3kv@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Dec-94 Can't format a
Quantum Ligh.. by Bauer Sebastian@kepler.l
> I just bought a Quantum Lightning 730 and I tried to format it to 1024
byte/bloc
> k
> (for performace and usable size gain), but it refuses to change the
block-size
> (any of the formatting tools like formatter or sdformat replied with
> error-messages). From inquieries with these and other software-tools, I know,
> that the hard disk still is in SCSI-2 mode or syncron transfer mode,
respectivel
> y.
> Does this have to do anything with not beeing able to format it to
1024 byte/blo
> ck
> and if, how can I change it?
First, please use less than 75 character lines. Your message was quite
hard to read, and, when excerpted, produces the above results.
Secondly, not all drives can physically be reformatted to 1024 byte
sectors. I believe that "digital servo" hard drives in particular
cannot. There is nothing which can be done to change this.
Also, you probably want to set the drive for asyncronous transfers for
use with NEXTSTEP (at least on black hardware-- I don't know about Intel
or HP).
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
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From: wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu (Herbert S. Wilf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2 Gig HD for black
Date: 13 Dec 1994 01:34:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu>
Keywords: SCSI disk
Has anybody out there attached a SCSI-2 HD of around 2Gb to a NeXT
black and got it running? What brand did you buy, and how did you do
it? I've been struggling with a Seagate and it simply won't work.
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From: cynthia@tornado.seas.ucla.edu (Cynthia L. Peterson)
Subject: Installation on a Dell Latitude XP notebook or equivalent
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 06:31:05 GMT
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Keywords: install Dell notebook
Hi all,
Has anyone tried to install NeXTSTEP onto a Dell Latitude XP notebook
or equivalent. I'm in the market for a good notebook but couldn't
bare to deal with a DOS machine. The Dell machines are pretty fast
at a good price. What's the likelihood of porting NeXT to it?
If there is a good competitor to the Dell machine which is compatible
please let me know.
john@ljr.com
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From: bodemer@transtec.de (Dieter Bodemer)
Subject: Re: 32bit WIDE SCSI HD's
Message-ID: <1994Dec13.071347.6009@transtec.de>
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References: <3c4vf0$90u@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <941212212219.3530AUUnF.arrow@arrow>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 07:13:47 GMT
arrow@arrow.rhein-main.de writes:
> So the question is, does anyone know of any SCSI drive around the 2gig
>range that do 32bit Wide SCSI?
I haven't heard of any 32bit Wide SCSI disk and I assume, that you wouldn't
find any. Because for 32bit Wide SCSI, you need a second cable and where will
you place the second plug on a 3.5" disk?
Also, serial SCSI is just around the corner, this will give you transferrates
up to serveral hundred Mbits and cabling will be a lot easier, therefore, I
don't that any disk vendor will spend time on developing 32bit Wide SCSI disks.
>I am led to believe that IBM sells such devices somewhere in the 1 to 4.5 GB
>range for their RS6ks. Not sure, though.
They are all "only" 16bit.
>-Armin
Best regards,
Dieter
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From: michi@never.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Date: 13 Dec 1994 09:08:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cjoa7$b5b@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
References: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
Andrew Athan writes
>
> I have a COMPAQ Prolinea w/ 32M of RAM installed and am using NeXTSTEP 3.2
> FIP.
>
> NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM, and
> after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks it has
> 32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
>
> Any clues?
> aca
Probably you have to change the settings of your memory configuration, using
the ECU (EISA Configuration Utility) provided with your system. Try change the
memory settings from 'Compaq Compatible' to 'Linear'.
Michele
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- Computer Science Department State University of Milan
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Email: michi@never.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tvmyers@koicds01.icdc.delcoelect.com (Thomas V. Myers)
Subject: Re: 32bit WIDE SCSI HD's
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Message-ID: <D0qE57.5qr@icdc.delcoelect.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 04:07:55 GMT
References: <3c4vf0$90u@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Frodo Was Here
Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
> I'm going to be getting the new DPT 3224/90W controller when it comes
> out this Jan or Feb. This controller will support 32bit Wide SCSI (most wides
> today are only 16bit). It also supports upto 21 devices and has on board RAID
> support--nice card.
> The thing is...I want to get a HD that matches the 32bit WIDE spec.
> Most drives today are only 16bit Wide SCSI. Like the 2gig baraccuda W is only
> 16bit wide.
> So the question is, does anyone know of any SCSI drive around the 2gig
> range that do 32bit Wide SCSI?
Since nobody is currently making disk drives which can *sustain* more than
10MByte/sec transfers, the drive manufacturers don't have much reason to go
to 32 bits. They can't make full use of the 20MBytes/sec available with the
16 bit channel. As video-on-demand and similar services grow, you'll
probably start seeing RAID type sub-systems which offer 32 bit channels,
probably in conjunction with SCSI-20 (20 MHz) so you get 80 MBytes/sec of
bandwidth. Your PC probably won't be able to see the difference between an 8
bit device and a 16 bit device, let alone a 32 bit device unless it's a quad
Pentium 100 server.
Just my opinion, Tom
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schorse@nightlife.escape.de (Hansjoerg Oppermann)
Subject: Re: switch off MegaPixel ?
Message-ID: <D0nA9I.250@nightlife.escape.de>
Sender: schorse@nightlife.escape.de (Hansjoerg Oppermann)
References: <3bmuua$i14@sun24.tfh-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 11:51:17 GMT
In article <3bmuua$i14@sun24.tfh-berlin.de> s580096@idy18.tfh-berlin.de
(Olaf Maetzner) writes:
> Is there any possibility of really switching off the MegaPixel-display
> while keeping the NeXTstation working ?
> (Not a black screensaver)
There must be a posibility to do this. Last year, while playing with my
NeXTstation, the Monitor switch off and the computer was still running.
And i was able to reboot via the keyboard.
>
> --
> Ole
> (Olaf Maetzner s580096@mx304.tfh-berlin.de +49 30 8926435)
>
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From: jkv@sware.com (Joseph K. Vossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: h/w advice needed, what would YOU pick??
Date: 13 Dec 1994 11:23:22 GMT
Organization: Internet Atlanta
Message-ID: <3ck07a$ns5@metro.atlanta.com>
I am putting a system together to run NSFIP and I have narrowed the video
parts to the following:
video card (PCI bus):
ATI graphics pro turbo mach 64 w/ 4 mb
#9 GXE64 pro w/ 4mb
monitor:
nano 760iw (21" color)
nokia D1-445X (21" color, .25mm, 1600X1200 ni @ 60 hz)
What combination of video card/monitor do you think would work best for
NSFIP (and why?)
Should I consider other boards/monitors not listed above?
Does anyone have any feedback on the new #9 128 bit video card?
thanks in advance for your input.
--
Joe Vossen
jkv@sware.com
From: scholz@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernhard Scholz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: h/w advice needed, what would YOU pick??
Date: 13 Dec 1994 16:15:39 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ckhbb$1rq@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <3ck07a$ns5@metro.atlanta.com>
Joseph K. Vossen (jkv@sware.com) wrote:
: I am putting a system together to run NSFIP and I have narrowed the video
: parts to the following:
: video card (PCI bus):
: ATI graphics pro turbo mach 64 w/ 4 mb
: #9 GXE64 pro w/ 4mb
: monitor:
: nano 760iw (21" color)
: nokia D1-445X (21" color, .25mm, 1600X1200 ni @ 60 hz)
This is some kind of information for the Intel Hardware Guide (take a look
at it at http://www.leo.org/archiv/NeXT/hw.html
I'd like to receive more information or contributions to the guide if you
have experiences with an working system.
Regards, Boerny.
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From: sz0207@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Sven Gallenbacher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: building a gfx driver for miroCrystal32s ? how ?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 20:28:04 +0100
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <3cksk4Eqh1@uni-erlangen.de>
Hello !
I have a special Problem.
I own a mirocrystal32s and a mirovideoconverter.I want to set the mirocrystal into its TV mode to activate the videoconverter.Because i want to record my animations on videorecorder, but therefore the videoconverter must be activatet, and the only way to activate the videoconverter is to set the gfx card into tv mode !
Miro itself gives me no information they are very lame !
Please if someone is out there who has the ability to modify or create such an driver please contact me.
Thanks and so long, Sven.
email: sz0207@rrze.uni-erlangen.de
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 Gig HD for black
Date: 13 Dec 1994 21:28:31 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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References: <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu> wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu
(Herbert S. Wilf) writes:
> Has anybody out there attached a SCSI-2 HD of around 2Gb to a
> NeXT black and got it running? What brand did you buy, and
> how did you do it? I've been struggling with a Seagate and it
> simply won't work.
I bought a Micropolis 1.7 GB drive a few months ago and it worked
pefectly, right out of the box. (I had at first bought a Quantum 1.8 GB,
but it's firmware turned out to be incompatible with black hardware.)
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: angelo@heinz.com (Angel Cura Civetta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Avail printers w/ 3.3?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 15:22:58 GMT
Message-ID: <1994Dec13.152258.7564@heinz.com>
References: <3cib7c$g5b@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: F. HEINZ Consultora
Sender: usenet@heinz.com
Keywords: Printer Drivers
In article <3cib7c$g5b@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes:
> We'd like to purchase the
>
> HP Laserjet 4V &
> Epson Stylus Color Inkjet
>
> for our Color Slab (soon to be running NS 3.3).
>
> Are there drivers for the above two available?
>
Yup, get Dots' latest version 3.5.5 (released last week) with support for
both printers (besides over 400 other ones).
You can run it in demo mode and try it before buying. You have to see the
Stylus superb output at 720 dpi color!
Hope it helps,
Angelo
Disclaimer; F. Heinz Consultora is the home of Dots, so don't expect me to
too humble :-)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Playing CDs on white
Date: 14 Dec 1994 04:49:56 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3clthk$pv@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3choau$1m9@panix.com>
chuckie@panix.com (Alec H. Peterson) writes:
> I have a PAS16 and a NEC MultiSpin 4xi CD drive, and I'm trying
> to play CDs through the PAS16. This works just fine in DOS, but
> it seems like NeXTstep is turning off the line-in connector on
> the sound card (the connecter that the CD drive is connected to).
I went to ftp site ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
in directory pub/comp/platforms/next/i486/audio
and picked up files PASPlus.0.99.README
and PASPlus.0.99.I.b.tar.gz
The same files seem to be at
ftp.cs.orst.edu
in directory pub/next/demos/drivers/binaries
This gives you a preferences panel (and a new sound driver) which
gives you a lot of control over the PAS 16. It's Great.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: POSSIBLE? Intel Box -> NeXT Printer ?
Date: 14 Dec 1994 00:05:56 -0500
Organization: Duke University, Durham, N.C.
Message-ID: <3clufk$ca3@news.duke.edu>
Prices for NeXT printers are very good,
compared with getting a new PostScript
printer. And NeXT printers are so much
faster since they just take raster information
from the CPU. But is there any way to run
them from an Intel box under NS/I? Does
anyone make a card for Intel boxes that
you can plug your NeXT printer into?
I have been able to print from an Intel box
running NeXTSTEP to a NeXT printer attached
to a networked Cube. So I know that NS/I
software is no problem, just the hardware
for the NeXT printer hookup. So does anyone
make such hardware?
Thanks,
Lee Altenberg
altenber@acpub.duke.edu
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway2000 P-5's won't run NS/I? WHAT NOW?
Date: 14 Dec 1994 00:12:49 -0500
Organization: Duke University, Durham, N.C.
Message-ID: <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu>
I heard that NeXT is saying that NEXTSTEP cannot
run on any of the Gateway2000 Pentium boxes.
Is this true? Does anyone have NS/I running
on a Gateway2000 Pentium? I had been
planning to buy a Gateway2000 Pentium box
solely in order to have NEXTSTEP.
If Gateway2000 is out (they said they
no longer make the 486DX2/66V), what would
people out there recommend as the best
price/performance box for NEXTSTEP?
Thanks,
Lee Altenberg, altenber@acpub.duke.edu
From: alexn@fdcsrvr.cs.mci.com (Alex Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Power supply failure and new EPROM problems: SOLVED!
Date: 13 Dec 1994 23:51:55 GMT
Organization: MCI
Message-ID: <3clc2r$ic0@hermes.dna.mci.com>
Several weeks ago, I posted a plea for help when my turbo slab wouldn't power
up. I received many replies and the simple answer was to order a new power
supply directly from Bell Atlantic (800-499-NEXT).
In addition, I explained that I couldn't power my machine off - hence, I had
to pull the plug to power my machine off. Ordering a new EPROM (latest version
is V74) solved this problem.
Thanks for all the help from everybody!
- Alex -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: Question about Fujitsu 2624FA drive and black hardware.
Message-ID: <D0ryKp.2vo@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 00:26:48 GMT
Hi. Does this drive have to be set to SCSI 1 or to SCSI 2 when being used
with a NeXTstation externally?
Your comments will be appreciated.
Bye,
Ze Tomas
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Inkjet Color printers for NS use
Date: 14 Dec 1994 02:26:04 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cll3s$2s5@network.ucsd.edu>
I need a color printer to make transparencies for lectures,
to use with my NeXT turbo color machine. The best low-priced ones
seem to be the Epson Stylus Color and the Canon BJC-4000 (e.g. as
reviewed in the October 1994 PC Computing). I wonder if anyone has
any information on (1) which one might be better for making
transparencies (I am not interested in prints), and (2) which one
would work best with the NeXT (the drivers for both of these are said
to be "dismal"). The Canon has PS Level II Emulation but apparently
the Epson does not (Byte November '94 listings, p. 281). Would this
be an important factor for use with the NeXT?
Thanks very much to anyone who has any information on these
printers: comparisons and/or use with NS.
H. Craig: passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: dnw@williams (David N. Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 Gig HD for black
Date: 14 Dec 1994 13:24:54 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cmrn6$suh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu> <3cl3lv$82r@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
: In article <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu> wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu
: (Herbert S. Wilf) writes:
: > Has anybody out there attached a SCSI-2 HD of around 2Gb to a
: > NeXT black and got it running? What brand did you buy, and
: > how did you do it? I've been struggling with a Seagate and it
: > simply won't work.
You have to turn off the SCSI-2 synchronous mode. There's often a
jumper in the drive for that.
: I bought a Micropolis 1.7 GB drive a few months ago and it worked
: pefectly, right out of the box. (I had at first bought a Quantum 1.8 GB,
: but it's firmware turned out to be incompatible with black hardware.)
...
: takken@leland.stanford.edu
We did this, too; and we requested from the dealer that he turn off the
SCSI-2 synchronous mode for us. Didn't work out of the box, though--we
had to do a low level format. It came formatted for a PC, which for some
reason didn't work...
--David
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From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Question about Fujitsu 2624FA drive and black hardware.
Date: 14 Dec 1994 17:54:43 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: na
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes:
>Hi. Does this drive have to be set to SCSI 1 or to SCSI 2 when being used
>with a NeXTstation externally?
SCSI-2, but make sure to turn off synchronous (fast) SCSI.
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From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FIMI Monitor blows transistors
Date: 14 Dec 1994 17:25:43 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3cn9qn$141c@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
We have a FIMI monitor (I hope that's the correct spelling) that died
one day.
Our tech service dept. had some problems getting replacement
transistors. Two blew: Location V66 Tran #BUV26A and Location V21
#BUW13A
Replacing the transistors didn't help however. The machine worked for
two days, and the new pair blew too. We've repeated this.
Bell Atlantic won't do a board swap -- They want to exchange the
monitor, and the money they want for that isn't worth it.
We had a similar experience with another monitor on campus.
Anyone figured this one out? It's got our tech people stumped.
Alternately, does anyone have a full set of schematics for the critter.
Sam has had no luck trying to get those out of either Phillips or Bell
Atlantic.
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: filip@filtronix.eunet.be (Filip Lingier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Matrox - address
Date: 14 Dec 1994 17:51:13 GMT
Organization: Filtronix Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cnbah$6f@filtronix.eunet.be>
Hi,
I'm looking for the mailing address of Matrox. Can somebody give it to me?
They don't happen to have an e-mail address?
Filip
From: Gordo <gohunt@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: QUANTUM Telephone No. ?
Date: Wed, 14 DEC 94 12:56:21 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Message-ID: <Z493Wb9.gohunt@delphi.com>
References: <3bn9sa$1kef@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca>
Quantum's number is 800-826-8022.
-Gordo
From: max@cuefa.grenet.fr (max Barel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,fr.comp.sys.next
Subject: Are #9 graphic product available in Europe ?
Date: 14 Dec 1994 19:34:57 GMT
Organization: C.I.C.G. , Grenoble
Message-ID: <3cnhd1$npi@cicg-communication.grenet.fr>
From a number of netter, as well as from Next compatibility guide, #9 card
look great. But i can t find any advertising for these in France.
Maybe are they sold under an other name ?
--
Max Barel max@cuefa.grenet.fr (Next Mail OK)
From: sz0207@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Sven Gallenbacher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: modify mirocrystal32s gfx driver ?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 22:39:26 +0100
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <3cnomeEkf0@uni-erlangen.de>
Hello !
I have a special problem. I want to set my mirocrystal32s gfx card into its TV
mode. The problem is that the gfx driver from miro doesent provide that mode.
Who can help me modifying this existent driver ?
I own a mirovideoconverter, and thats the reason why i want to activate the tv mode from the gfx card, because the videoconverter must get the TV mode signal from the gfx card that he will work.
There is no support from miro, so please if someone is out there who can help me with this problem, please send me a message !
Thanks and so long, Sven.
email: sz0207@rrze.uni-erlangen.de
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: POSSIBLE? Intel Box -> NeXT Printer ?
Date: 14 Dec 1994 19:41:01 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cnhod$sna@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3clufk$ca3@news.duke.edu>
In article <3clufk$ca3@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee
Altenberg) writes:
> I have been able to print from an Intel box
> running NeXTSTEP to a NeXT printer attached
> to a networked Cube. So I know that NS/I
> software is no problem, just the hardware
> for the NeXT printer hookup. So does anyone
> make such hardware?
Nobody does to the best of my knowledge. You could $600 on an 030 cube
for a print server.
-- Todd Takken
From: greis@cg-atla.UUCP (Peter Greis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Supra Modem.... what model?
Keywords: supra
Message-ID: <10722@cg-atla.UUCP>
Date: 14 Dec 94 15:16:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass. USA
OK, this one is pure ignorance... Looking through
MacWeek, various vendors sell Supra modems. Some of them
have slight variations on the model number. So is there
only one Supra 28.8 external? I have seen them advertised
as "Supra 28.8 V.FC", "Supra 288 MC Fast", just to name
two.
These are all the same, right?
-peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lao@zoo.ncl.omron.co.jp (LAO Shihong)
Subject: Re: 2 Gig HD for black
In-Reply-To: dnw@williams's message of 14 Dec 1994 13:24:54 GMT
Message-ID: <LAO.94Dec15105601@wolf.zoo.ncl.omron.co.jp>
Sender: news@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp (News Manager)
Organization: OMRON Co., Kyoto 617, Japan.
References: <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu> <3cl3lv$82r@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
<3cmrn6$suh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 01:56:01 GMT
>>>>> On 14 Dec 1994 13:24:54 GMT, dnw@williams (David N. Williams) said:
In article <3cmrn6$suh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> dnw@williams (David N. Williams) writes:
> : I bought a Micropolis 1.7 GB drive a few months ago and
> it worked : pefectly, right out of the box. (I had at
> first bought a Quantum 1.8 GB, : but it's firmware turned
> out to be incompatible with black hardware.) ... :
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
David> We did this, too; and we requested from the dealer that
David> he turn off the SCSI-2 synchronous mode for us. Didn't
David> work out of the box, though--we had to do a low level
David> format. It came formatted for a PC, which for some
David> reason didn't work...
Does anybody has experience with Quantum Empire 2.1GB disk?
Can it be used with black NeXT? is it noisy and hot?
I have a DEC DSP3210 hard disk, it works fine.
--
----
LAO Shihong (Firstname is surname!!!)
From: mark_bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 P-5's won't run NS/I? WHAT NOW?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 02:14:35 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3co8qb$198@rosie.next.com>
References: <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu>
In article <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee
Altenberg) writes:
> I heard that NeXT is saying that NEXTSTEP cannot
> run on any of the Gateway2000 Pentium boxes.
> Is this true? Does anyone have NS/I running
<<< Stuff deleted >>>
Okay, I don't speak for NeXT in any official capacity, but I can't let
this one pass. Statements like this are irresponsible, at best. It's
_extremely_ unlikely that anyone at NeXT (at least, anyone technical)
would make a blanket statement to the effect that "NEXTSTEP won't run on
<vendor name>'s computers". There are just too many variations in the way
that systems are configured.
The only statements that we can make confidently are to the effect that
"NEXTSTEP _will_ run on this specific system, with this specific
configuration". This is the purpose of the Certified and Listed Systems
on NeXTanswers and in the Hardware Compatibility Guide (although the HCG
is a little outdated, now).
In general, NEXTSTEP has worked on a greater variety of hardware with each
release. NEXTSTEP 3.3, in particular, supports a vast array of new
adapter cards, deals with power management (if the System has APM BIOS),
and has better support for a variety of bus architectures (PCI and EISA,
in particular).
It may be the case that Gateway 2000 is shipping systems with adapters
that NEXTSTEP still doesn't support. That just means that the systems
need to be specially configured in order to run NEXTSTEP. That's
certainly not the same as it being impossible to run NEXTSTEP on them. My
experience has been that very few systems "just won't run NEXTSTEP",
although the effort required to get NEXTSTEP running on some systems can
be quite high.
Isn't someone running a homebrew NEXTSTEP/Intel mailing list? That might
be another good source of information about getting NEXTSTEP running on
clone hardware.
Thanks for letting me vent.
-Mark
Mark Bessey
NeXT Software Quality
--> I do NOT speak for NeXT <--
From: chari@tanya.ma.utexas.edu (Christopher M. Whatley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: #9 Imagine 128-bit driver
Date: 15 Dec 1994 00:34:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3co2ul$k6o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Somebody posted about this card which comes with some Dell
machines. Is there a Next driver from 3.2 or 3.3? If so, how do I get
it?
--
Chris Whatley
Pencom Systems
Ph: (708)-332-2116 home, (708) 938-1960 office
E-mail: whatley@math.utexas.edu, whatley@woodstock.abbott.com
From: chari@tanya.ma.utexas.edu (Christopher M. Whatley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 1GB IDE
Date: 15 Dec 1994 00:35:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <3co2vv$k6o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Does 3.3 have an IDE driver which supports "Extended IDE"?
--
Chris Whatley
Pencom Systems
Ph: (708)-332-2116 home, (708) 938-1960 office
E-mail: whatley@math.utexas.edu, whatley@woodstock.abbott.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Gibson_Rory@pcp.ca (Rory Gibson)
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Message-ID: <1994Dec14.235603.13215@pcp.ca>
Sender: news@pcp.ca
Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd.
References: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 94 23:56:03 GMT
In article <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com>
athan@bwit169.morgan.com (Andrew Athan) writes:
>
> I have a COMPAQ Prolinea w/ 32M of RAM installed and am using NeXTSTEP
3.2
> FIP.
>
> NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM,
and
> after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks
it has
> 32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
>
> Any clues?
> aca
You need to go into the Compaq ESIA config and set the memory mode to
"Linear". By default the Compaqs have a ~300K gap in the addressing
after 16Mb which I believe they use to load some of their ROMS into.
Rory.
From: craig@raptor.cac.stratus.com (CD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 100base-T/VG for NeXTStep
Date: 15 Dec 1994 03:40:14 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <3codqu$42g@transfer.stratus.com>
Has anyone heard if there will be support in 3.3 (or later) for
100-base networking ? Sure would be nice to NeXT to support at
least *one* 100mb card . . .
Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@cac.stratus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley)
Subject: HELP: can't get my CD-rom to work (longish)
Message-ID: <D0tvF9.6Es@indirect.com>
Sender: usenet@indirect.com (System Operator)
Organization: Internet Direct, indirect.com
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 01:13:55 GMT
I just recently added a 540 MB Quantum Pro-??? to my system. I put it internal
and put my 105 MB Quantum from inside my NextStation into an external box.
NOW, I can't use my HP CD-rom with my system as a mountable drive with my
system. I _CAN_ boot from the NeXTStep 3.0 (hint about my O/S) CD and
initialize my internal 540. I have done that twice and totally reformatted
my new drive and installed NS3.0. My NeXT seems to boot up OK only as long
as the CD-rom isn't plugged in. Otherwise, it will only allow be to boot
from the CD, and the only CD I have is the NS3.0, which means the NeXT then
wants to re-install NS3.0.
I see two problems:
1) if the CD is plugged into the scsi port, when turned on, my NeXT
will only let me boot to CD. I break into ctrl~, and type
'bsd (x,0,0)' where x is from 0 to 7 and it still wants to boot
from the CD ROM.
2) the only way to boot from my HD is to unplug the scsi from the CD
before powering up. When I plug the CD back into the scsi port, I
can't find a way to manually MOUNT it, because I can't see that the
Next recognizes any scsi devices that aren't plugged in at power-up.
I NEED HELP:
1) show me how to manually mount the CD-rom after I have powered up
or
2) help me get my NeXT to boot from the HD and still recognize the CD
as a valid drive, and not want to boot from it (preferrably w/o
having to go into ctrl~ every time).
parting thoughts...I thought there may be a problem with scsi device numbers,
but I have changed the device numbers of the 105 external HD and CD all over
and have the same problems. ALSO, the same boot-up problem occurs with my
105MB HD --meaning that it tries to be the boot-up device (unless, of course,
the CD-rom is plugged into the scsi--daisy-chained either before or after
the HD). I just turn the HD off and don't worry about it, but I do want some
stuff off of the CD. Finally, maybe my problems are just typical w/ NS3.0.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
Jeff Jolley
--
Rational Alternative Digital Cyberzine:
Finger cyber@indirect.com for more info
From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: best Magneto Optical
Date: 15 Dec 1994 01:08:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3co4v7$5jj@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3bm3ba$3jb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Any advice on the best (price-reliability) 230 MB Magneto Optical drive for
Motorola NS machines? I presume they typically work out of the box and plug
into the SCSI chain?
--
Sha Xin Wei
mathematics and scientific simulations
distributed multimedia
mail: Academic Software Development
Sweet Hall 415
Stanford University
Stanford CA 94305-3090
USA
telephone: 415/725-3152 (work,msg)
415/725-8240 (fax)
internet: xinwei@jessica.stanford.edu
nextmail: xinwei@otter.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peisch@cfa.org (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: [Q] Only 16M recognized
Message-ID: <D0u2M2.AKp@cfa.org>
Organization: CANS
References: <ATHAN.94Dec11150048@bwit169.morgan.com> <D0o2ov.5Ao@eskimo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 03:41:17 GMT
Check the BIOS to see if it limits the available to 16MB.
HP Vectra XMs have this problem/feature.
peter
: Andrew Athan (athan@bwit169.morgan.com) wrote:
: : I have a COMPAQ Prolinea w/ 32M of RAM installed and am using NeXTSTEP 3.2
: : FIP.
: : NeXT's boot program (v1.28) recognizes only 16M of the installed RAM, and
: : after boot hostinfo reports this is a 16M system. The COMPAQ thinks it has
: : 32M (according to its setup program and in DOS).
From: bgilson@powderhound.cs.mci.com (Bob Gilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Would you buy a Comtrade, PCI SCSI Win-station?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 01:38:06 GMT
Organization: MCI Communications
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3co6lu$8vo@hermes.dna.mci.com>
I'm considering buying a PC from Comtrade.
The model is called a PCI SCSI Win-Station.
More specs:
P90 processor
PCI SCSI-2
Diamond Stealth 64 (2MB)
17'monitor 1280x1024
Is anyone running Nextstep on these boxes?
What types of trouble have you encountered?
Reply to bgilson@bou.shl.com
Thanks for your help
From: jbf@mitre.org (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't format a Quantum Lightning 730 to 1024 byte/block
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 01:12:06 -0500
Organization: Mitre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <jbf-1512940112060001@mbppp1.mitre.org>
References: <3chqri$3kv@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
As one poster has already pointed out, synchronous transfers
may be incompatible. I would suggest that it's not a good idea
to reformat the sectors unless you know that the skewing and
sparing setups are going to be revised correctly. Even though
the header files say Unix file system uses 1024 byte fragments,
NeXT left my 400 MB disk formatted in the factory standard 512
byte sectors. Maybe they knew what they were doing?
Barney
From: lboyd@bud.peinet.pe.ca (Larry Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT FAQ?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 02:15:48 -0400
Organization: PEINet, Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <3comuk$s1m@bud.peinet.pe.ca>
Season's Greetings!
I'd like to know if and where there is a FAQ for NeXT
computers?
Please E-Mail to: lboyd@bud.peinet.pe.ca
Thank you!
From: terence@sfsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone using Microcom Deskport Fast modems?
Date: 14 Dec 1994 23:19:29 GMT
Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona
Message-ID: <3cnui1$klj@maple.enet.net>
We've got two Microcom Deskport Fast modems (28.8 kb, V.fc, MNP-10) being
used to connect two sites, through overseas phone line (poor quality).
We've been able to connect using MNP-10 but the UUCP transfers seem to
bomb when sending/receiving a file (usually the control file after the
main data file), with "bad header" and retries before a BAD READ error is
issued.
The Microcom works fine with a non-Next UUCP e-mail/slip provider.
Previously, we were using a Trailblazer and Worldblazer but this bombs.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
From: terence@sfsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 Gig HD for black
Date: 14 Dec 1994 23:13:31 GMT
Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cnu6r$khm@maple.enet.net>
References: <3cmrn6$suh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <3cmrn6$suh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> dnw@williams (David
N. Williams) writes:
> Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
> : In article <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu> wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu
> : (Herbert S. Wilf) writes:
>
> : > Has anybody out there attached a SCSI-2 HD of around 2Gb to a
> : > NeXT black and got it running? What brand did you buy, and
> : > how did you do it? I've been struggling with a Seagate and it
> : > simply won't work.
We've attached a 2GB Quantum Empire 2100S to a Color Station without too
much tears or gnashing of teeth. It's supposed to be SCSI-II. I think
the SCSI id jumpers were the only thing we fiddled with.
Also have another same drive hooked up to a 586 as its internal/primary
drive.
From: brady@cybernetics.net (Don Brady)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Enable > 1 Gig Translation on 1542C SCSI?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 10:14:19 GMT
Organization: Cybernetx, Inc.
Message-ID: <3cp4tr$s2d@jabba.cybernetics.net>
I am going to soon get a 2 gig. SCSI drive to add to my 1.2 gig SCSI drive.
I have an Adaptec 1542C. NextStep, DOS, NT, and Linux all coreside and run
fine.
So far I have >not< enabled ">1 gig. translation". Should I leave it
disabled when adding the 2 gig. drive?
Some operating systems say in their docs that ">1 gig translation should
not be enabled." Is this true also of NextStep?
(I will be running NextStep 3.3).
Thanks for any ideas.
Don
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PS printers for NS/I
Date: 15 Dec 1994 08:53:40 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3cphp4$rsf@panix.com>
Hi. Some weeks/months ago, there was an extensive
discussion about which PostScript printers were
a good value (high quality/lowish price) to use
with NS/Intel.
As I recall, the two winners were Sharp and Canon,
for their 600dpi models with 2-4 Megs of RAM.
I would be most appreciative if someone could
provide me with the model numbers of the two
machines above, as well as any other recommendations
for good PostScript printers for NS/I.
- David C. Lambert
dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
From: chris@akira.opensource.com (Chris Miner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Serial port speed on NeXTStation?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 18:15:20 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cq13o$aah@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3budbc$4nd@rkt.in-berlin.de>
In article <3budbc$4nd@rkt.in-berlin.de> Rene.Kulschewski@rkt.in-berlin.de
writes:
> In article <3bqiuj$qa4@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca
> (Michal Jaegermann) writes:
>
> > I did not try 115200, so I do not know.
>
> Look at /usr/include/bsd/sys/ttydev.h. As you can see, 57600 bps is the
> max. supported speed
As for hardware, does anyone have a rundown on the port speeds for
the various intel motherboards which can be used with NeXTStep.
ie:
DEC XL, MTE, LPx series
Cannon object.station
danke im voraus,
Chris
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't format a Quantum Lightning 730 to 1024 byte/block
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 13:40:48 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Qiw8qk_00Uh_Q4Tb1S@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <jbf-1512940112060001@mbppp1.mitre.org>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 15-Dec-94 Re: Can't format
a Quantum .. by James B. Frazer@mitre.or
> Even though the header files say Unix file system uses 1024 byte
> fragments, NeXT left my 400 MB disk formatted in the factory standard
> 512 byte sectors. Maybe they knew what they were doing?
Maybe, but the evidence is against it. :-) ** 2
I have the original Seagate ST1280 (250 MB) drive that came with my
slab, which shipped with 512 sectors from NeXT. Reformatting it to 1024
gave me around 10-15 % more space, and seems to have improved
performance noticably, although I didn't have hard benchmarks available
for that.
I reformatted the drive a long time ago (several years), so I don't
remember the exact details....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Looking for a supplier of fuser assembly for NeXT printer.
Message-ID: <1994Dec15.121722.499@titan.sfasu.edu>
From: jhb@ccsnext.sfasu.edu (Jim Bills)
Date: 15 Dec 94 12:17:21 CST
Does anybody know where new/refurburbished fuser assemblies for NeXT
printers can be bought? Our supplier of fusers for HP LaserJetII (which
use the same (almost, for the most part(s);-), Canon engine), does not
have them. Sigh...
Thanks in advance.
--
James (Jim) H. Bills, jr. (8-o :^{)>
Networking and Telecommunications E-mail: jhb@ccsnext.sfasu.edu
Stephen F. Austin State University Phone: 409.568.2200
P.O. Box 6095 SFA Station Fax: 409.568.3100
Nacogdoches, TX 75961 I'd rather be sailing...
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: More than two serial ports under NSFIP ?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 13:15:09 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9412151915.AA00627@hurka>
Hi All,
I would like to know, if anyone has any experience running NSFIP with more
than two serial ports? If so, what multiple serial ports are supported? I
guess I shall need Mux driver, am I right?
Thank you in advance.
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
From: murshid@unit.edu (Murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Are Agfa scanners supported by software?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 19:11:18 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cq4cm$om9@news.cerf.net>
Are Agfa scanners supported by any NeXTSTeP software ?
murshid@unit.edu
From: bobs@pth3.bu.edu (Robert Singleton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: thin-net problem
Date: 15 Dec 1994 20:05:04 GMT
Organization: Boston University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cq7hh$25h@news.bu.edu>
Hi,
I'm having some trouble connecting my NeXT up to the network with a
10-base-T ethernet cable. When I use this thick cable, the network is
unreachable. However, if I use an adaptor box that converts the 10-base-T
into thin, I have no problem. Does anyone know what's going on here?
At one time I thought this might be a hardware problem, but I've connected
another NeXT up in my office and the same thing happens. I know that one
of the machines was at one time configured using thin ethernet cable, and
the other one was very likely connected this way at one time. Does the
NeXT remember how it was previously connected? It seems very unlikely
that I have a hardware problem (NeXT or ethernet), so it seems that I
should
be looking for a software problem. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
regards,
bob singleton
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Question about Fujitsu 2624FA drive and black hardware.
Message-ID: <1994Dec15.203712.1204@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <3cnbh3$1tf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 20:37:12 GMT
In article <3cnbh3$1tf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst
Kloecker) writes:
> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes:
>
> >Hi. Does this drive have to be set to SCSI 1 or to SCSI 2 when being
> >used with a NeXTstation externally?
>
> SCSI-2, but make sure to turn off synchronous (fast) SCSI.
SCSI-2 is definitely wrong!
Refer to NeXTAnswers on hardware to be found on ftp.next.com and many NeXT
related archives.
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: me@kschallitz.ea.com (My Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sounds Cards
Date: 15 Dec 1994 03:46:42 GMT
Organization: Electronic Arts - (415) 571-7171
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This depends on what version of NS you are using for example,
version 3.3 now supports sound blaster cards which are fairly
low end and inexpensive, but do a decent enough job.
- Kurt.
In article <3bvpbn$1i3@portmgr1.nacm.com> barry@nacm.com (Barry Lustig)
writes:
> What low-cost sound cards are folks using in their Intel machines
> running NeXTSTEP?
>
>
> barry
>
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 Imagine 128-bit driver
Date: 15 Dec 1994 21:58:38 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <3cqe6e$n8h@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <3co2ul$k6o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <3co2ul$k6o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> chari@tanya.ma.utexas.edu
(Christopher M. Whatley) writes:
->
->
-> Somebody posted about this card which comes with some Dell
-> machines. Is there a Next driver from 3.2 or 3.3? If so, how do I get
-> it?
->
-> --
-> Chris Whatley
-> Pencom Systems
-> Ph: (708)-332-2116 home, (708) 938-1960 office
-> E-mail: whatley@math.utexas.edu, whatley@woodstock.abbott.com
I was told that it is in the works, but not expected for a couple of
months.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: charles400@aol.com (Charles400)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Would you buy a Comtrade, PCI SCSI Win-station?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 17:10:19 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com
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References: <3co6lu$8vo@hermes.dna.mci.com>
In article <3co6lu$8vo@hermes.dna.mci.com>, bgilson@powderhound.cs.mci.com
(Bob Gilson) writes:
In the current issue of P.C World, Comtrade scored the LOWEST in customer
support(I'm pretty sure it was them) Anyways, if you're gonna get involved
with NS/fip you are gonna need excellent company support..please consider
this and not only price when shopping around
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From: frank@glocke.robin.de (Frank Thomas)
Subject: Booting black from IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) ?
Message-ID: <1994Dec14.072531.279@glocke.robin.de>
Keywords: IBM,0662-S12, Spitfire,boot,black,station
Sender: frank@glocke.robin.de
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 07:25:31 GMT
Hello,
I can not boot from the IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) (SCSI-Id 0) if it is
the only drive in my configuration. The boot monitor just repeats these
messages:
SCSI unexpected msg:1
sc: Unexpected msg
all the time. If I attach a second drive (SCSI-Id 1) to my station I also
get these messages but after some (3?) retries it says
booting from target 0 lun 1
after this line it prints a more verbose message with about 5 lines (which
I can not recall exactly because its not recorded in /usr/adm/messages)
which
says that opcode 0x18 and 0x1b failed on the lun 0 (the IBM). After that
it
prints the message which drives it has detected and says its waiting for
the drive to come ready (!!!). Now it continues to boot from the IBM
(because
it has the lower SCSI-ID). So it does not seem to be a termination
problem.
If it helps finding the problem I could post all "mode sense pages" as
printed
by the scsitools.
Please help
Thanks
Frank
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: #9 Imagine 128-bit driver
Date: 16 Dec 1994 02:28:03 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <3cqtvj$154@rosie.next.com>
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In article <3cqe6e$n8h@news.mic.ucla.edu>,
Ivo Welch <ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu> wrote:
>In article <3co2ul$k6o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> chari@tanya.ma.utexas.edu
>(Christopher M. Whatley) writes:
>-> Somebody posted about this card which comes with some Dell
>-> machines. Is there a Next driver from 3.2 or 3.3? If so, how do I get
>-> it?
>
>I was told that it is in the works, but not expected for a couple of
>months.
Yes, this is detailed in NeXTanswer #1742 Number Nine Imagine128 Driver
Overview. All 3.3 drivers & future drivers now have driver overview
files in NeXTanswers in Drivers/3.3_Drivers.
--Dan
--
Dan Grillo dan_grillo@next.com (415) 780-2963 now in building 1
From: mhiggs@austinc.edu (Michael Higgs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: missing mice for black hardware
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 20:08:35 -0600
Organization: Austin College
Message-ID: <mhiggs-1512942008350001@dal25.onramp.net>
Small private college inherits 2 slabs and 3 cubes...but alas,
only 2 mice. Any suggestions?
Thanks, in advance....mhiggs@austinc.edu
From: jmcnamar@onramp.net (Jason McNamara)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT 3.2 Sound Support
Date: 16 Dec 1994 07:41:54 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <3crgc2$f72@news.onramp.net>
References: <3chq44$p37@gateway.wiltel.com>
In article <3chq44$p37@gateway.wiltel.com> gbeegle@wiltel13.wiltel.com
(Chris Beegle) writes:
+Are there any sound boards that you can buy that will work with NS 3.2?
From
+what I understand, the Media Vision ProAudio Studio and Spect. and
Microsoft
+Sound system are all discontinued.. Please Help....
+Thanks in advance...
+
I don't know if it's available yet in a shipping version, but Talus has a
SoundBlaster 16 driver which works just fine. Or maybe the 3.2 NeXT SB
driver has been fixed by now.
Contact Talus at:
713-578-1434
info@talus.com
Hope this helps.
Jason McNamara
(no longer with Talus)
jmcnamar@onramp.net
+--
+**************************************************************************
*****
+*
+Chris Beegle
+ID - Chris_Beegle@Wiltel.com
+NeXT ID - gbeegle@wiltel13.wiltel.com - NeXT Mail Welcome....
+PC Support @ WilTel Inc.
+One Williams Center 29-2
From: whizer@cs.uoregon.edu (John Boyd Candlish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: remapping num-lock for an 84 key keyboard
Date: 16 Dec 1994 01:31:14 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <3crmp2$12r@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu>
I've recently replaced the very silly 101-key pc keyboard with an 84
key equivalent, and am very happy to have some space on my desk. The only
problem is, I'm having considerable difficulty in remapping the num-lock
key.
I had originally thought that this would be trivial, my thinking was to
define my own ACE.keyboard file with a few of the keys changed.
Specifially, I copied, then edited the file to reflect an unused key
`scroll lock, scan code 0x46' to `num lock, scan code 0x45'.
I thought by letting num-lock be represented by a scan-code of 0x46 I'd
be all set, and be able to exit to the NMI monitor. But this solution
dosn't get it.
It works well enough to switch the keys, but something is still missing
from the NMI magic.
There is very little in the way of documentation when it comes to
trying to understand how an NXkeymapping parses. But from what I can
gather, there is some sort of numeric keypad attribute.
If any out there has charted these waters, please resond to...
jCandlish
____________________
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From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb)
Subject: Serial mouse is linear (FAQ?)
Message-ID: <D0wB62.IEr@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch
Organization: EUnet AG, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 08:49:11 GMT
Hi,
I'm pretty sure this has been answered 100 times but since I didn't find
any mention of it on the next ftp server...
I have a Pentium 90 (no known divide errors until now !) with a serial
logitech mouse.
What are the settings (a dwrite I guess) that will make it "accelerate".
The default for serial mouses seems to be "linear" movement. On my other
machines with bus mice, the movement is "accelerating".
Many thanks
Alexander Lamb
Expert Qantitative Trading
Geneva / Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ttoe0057@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Till Toenshoff)
Subject: ATI MACH64 vs. NeXTSTEP 3.2(intel)
Message-ID: <1994Dec15.144626.216@rz.uni-hildesheim.de>
Sender: news@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 14:46:26 GMT
HiHo!
I`m searching for a ATI MACH 64 2MB/VLB driver for NeXTSTEP 3.2 (intel).
Are there any plans to release such drivers ? Does anyone know ???
THNX,
Till
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: Disk speed of 2940 w/3.3... ?
Message-ID: <schwettD0wCvw.9qJ@netcom.com>
Summary: Hmm...
Keywords: 2940 3.3
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 09:26:20 GMT
I'm eagerly awaiting my copy of 3.3 (next week, NeXT says)...
and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the performance of the
2940 driver.
I am currently running an AiR motherboard that has a 2940W built in, and I'm
wondering how the performance under 3.3 will compare to the NCR 825 that I
was running under 3.2 with the Talus driver. I was getting extremeley good
throughput with that combination... I do not recall the numbers
precisely, but I think it was bout 2500 k/sec.
Also; I presume that the driver DOES work with the wide -SCSI version of the
7870?
Anyone? (Or shall I be the guinea pig... )
--
schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu, schwett@uclink.berkeley.edu
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From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: BusLogic BT-946c?????
Message-ID: <D0FMy7.HJ@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <1994Dec6.020911.28214@bMD.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 08:44:30 GMT
In article <1994Dec6.020911.28214@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes:
> Is there a driver for this avail?
>
> ---
> Kevin Solie
>
> Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc.
> Software Engineer: Tapestry Computing
You might contact Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz ( NeXTMAIL OK ) . He is at the moment testing a
driver for the 946!
Hope it helps
Hans
ive and you need
formating software to make and ISO or RR CD-image.
We are evaluating to write this software at the moment.
Anybody intrested might send me mail and! tell what he pays for such a
software ( you know a boss always wants to know whats it worth?)
So long
Hans
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From: dsanders@Trimark.com (Doug Sanders)
Subject: Re: PS printers for NS/I
Message-ID: <1994Dec16.123354.16733@trimark.com>
Sender: news@trimark.com
Organization: Trimark Investment Management, Toronto
References: <3cphp4$rsf@panix.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 12:33:54 GMT
In article <3cphp4$rsf@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes:
> Hi. Some weeks/months ago, there was an extensive
> discussion about which PostScript printers were
> a good value (high quality/lowish price) to use
> with NS/Intel.
>
> As I recall, the two winners were Sharp and Canon,
> for their 600dpi models with 2-4 Megs of RAM.
>
> I would be most appreciative if someone could
> provide me with the model numbers of the two
> machines above, as well as any other recommendations
> for good PostScript printers for NS/I.
>
> - David C. Lambert
> dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
Please post any info here as I am also in the market for a printer and
would find this very useful.
Thanks
Doug
dsanders@Trimark.com
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From: crb@orchid.princeton.edu (curtis)
Subject: cd-rom drives for black hardware
Message-ID: <1994Dec16.040158.17591@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 04:01:58 GMT
I've looked at the FAQ and Next-Answers but I still have some questions
about cd-rom options for black hardware. Does anybody have experience
with these:
Is there a cd-rom drive available for black hardware for which there is
software allowing you to randomly skip into an audio cd and play selected
portions
(something like: cdplay -skip 123.2 -duration 27).
or which allows other functions such as, repeat a selected portion, fast
forward etc.
Is there an app that does this in conjunction with a particular cd-rom (or
a few possibilities?)
Is there any way to run commercial cd-rom productions for macs or windows
on a next?
thanks in advance for any ideas!
Curtis Bahn
crb@silvertone.princeton.edu
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 P-5's won't run NS/I? WHAT NOW?
Date: 16 Dec 1994 16:58:01 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <3csgup$dsv@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu>
In article <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee
Altenberg) writes:
> I heard that NeXT is saying that NEXTSTEP cannot
> run on any of the Gateway2000 Pentium boxes.
> Is this true? Does anyone have NS/I running
> on a Gateway2000 Pentium? I had been
> planning to buy a Gateway2000 Pentium box
> solely in order to have NEXTSTEP.
> If Gateway2000 is out (they said they
> no longer make the 486DX2/66V), what would
> people out there recommend as the best
> price/performance box for NEXTSTEP?
> Thanks,
> Lee Altenberg, altenber@acpub.duke.edu
Lee,
Who told you that NEXTSTEP will not run on Gateway 2000 Pentium computers?
NeXT told me that the Gateway Pentium machines are not certified, but I
have one sitting on the other end of my desk which appears to run NEXTSTEP
3.2 just fine... I have the P5-90, which I ordered without the
unsupported ATI video card and installed a Diamond Stealth 64 with 4MB of
VRAM. I ordered it without a monitor and attached a 17" Nokia 447X, which
is just slightly better than the Sony 17SE1 I have at home. I ordered it
with a 1GB SCSI (a fast Seagate Hawk drive with write caching). The drive
came with an Adaptec 2940 (which is supported under 3.3), but I swapped it
for an Adaptec 1542CF to install and run NEXTSTEP 3.2.
The few problems which I am having are with the video and mouse. The PS/2
mouse sometimes jumps, even when I am not touching it. This appears to be
more a driver problem than anything else. The 1152x864@75Hz video mode is
terrible, but 1152x864@60Hz is okay. 1280x1024 is a little small and
requires that I use 16-bit rather than 32-bit color...
Other than that, the machine runs just fine...
--
Rod Ragner
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: jjb@pwilly.isye.gatech.edu (John Bartholdi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: recommended hardware
Date: 16 Dec 1994 17:03:52 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <3csh9o$n10@mordred.gatech.edu>
Hello,
I have a black 040 cube and was wondering whether it is time to upgrade.
Any opinions on whether the current best Intel box is now preferable?
Is there someplace to read reviews these days?
Thanks,
John J. Bartholdi
Georgia Institute of Technology
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
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From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: Re: recommended hardware
Message-ID: <1994Dec16.182953.9242@galois.mit.edu>
Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
References: <3csh9o$n10@mordred.gatech.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 18:29:53 GMT
In article <3csh9o$n10@mordred.gatech.edu>,
John Bartholdi <jjb@pwilly.isye.gatech.edu> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have a black 040 cube and was wondering whether it is time to upgrade.
>Any opinions on whether the current best Intel box is now preferable?
>
>Is there someplace to read reviews these days?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>John J. Bartholdi
>Georgia Institute of Technology
--
-----------------------------------
Mike Hopkins
mjh@math.mit.edu
-----------------------------------
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 P-5's won't run NS/I? WHAT NOW?
Date: 15 Dec 1994 21:34:36 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <3cqcpc$r38@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu>
Lee Altenberg (altenber@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: I heard that NeXT is saying that NEXTSTEP cannot
: run on any of the Gateway2000 Pentium boxes.
: Is this true?
I have no direct knowledge but I've heard rumors that
the supposed ATI Mach64 hardware and SCSI hardware in
gateways are not exactly the same as the normal
branded versions.
: Does anyone have NS/I running
: on a Gateway2000 Pentium? I had been
: planning to buy a Gateway2000 Pentium box
: solely in order to have NEXTSTEP.
: If Gateway2000 is out (they said they
: no longer make the 486DX2/66V), what would
: people out there recommend as the best
: price/performance box for NEXTSTEP?
: Thanks,
: Lee Altenberg, altenber@acpub.duke.edu
What about DataNet on the stepwise WWW server?
Try somebody who knows about NS.
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
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From: mjh@math.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: Re: recommended hardware
Message-ID: <1994Dec16.182726.9152@galois.mit.edu>
Sender: usenet@galois.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics
References: <3csh9o$n10@mordred.gatech.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 18:27:26 GMT
>Hello,
>
>I have a black 040 cube and was wondering whether it is time to upgrade.
>Any opinions on whether the current best Intel box is now preferable?
>
>Is there someplace to read reviews these days?
>
>Thanks,
It's always time to upgrade! I just upgraded to 3.2 in October, and
already it is time to upgrade again ;^).
Seriously I recommend talking to the guys at Bifrost enterprises.
Here is a contact there:
Daniel L. Kramer
Bifrost Enterprises
(713) 531-7959
dkramer@onramp.net.
They are in the business of putting together NS/IP systems. They are
very knowledgeable, and somehow manage to get great prices. Give them
a call.
I know, this is a plug, but I really have no relation with Bifrost at
all. Here is how I know about them. I recently "upgraded." I
agonized over whether or not to get an Intel system or whether to go
with the HP. I won't weigh the relative advantages here. In the end
I decided to go the "safe" route and bought an HP. I had had my fill
of "driver hell" with a Versa (now sold in favor of on of the Talus
laptops). Now I have this character trait that I can't resist
indulging in poignant buyers remorse, so what I did was, after I got
my Gekko I kept shopping around. Eventually I found out about Bifrost
and pretty much crapped when they gave me a price quote. (Which is
not to say that I don't love my Gekko).
Mike
--
-----------------------------------
Mike Hopkins
mjh@math.mit.edu
-----------------------------------
From: takken@raven.stanford.edu (Todd Takken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: missing mice for black hardware
Date: 16 Dec 1994 18:46:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3csn9s$8uo@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <mhiggs-1512942008350001@dal25.onramp.net>
In article <mhiggs-1512942008350001@dal25.onramp.net> mhiggs@austinc.edu
(Michael Higgs) writes:
>
> Small private college inherits 2 slabs and 3 cubes...but alas,
> only 2 mice. Any suggestions?
Here are excerpts from previous postings to this newsgroup.
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
**********************************************************************
From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch).
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 05:10:39 GMT
Actually, you can use a Logitech BUS mouse off of a PC
directly... no point in ripping spare switches out. I have a
Logitech Bus Mouseman on my non-ADB black slab and it works
wonderfully, and feels much better than the NeXT mouse anyway.
You'll have to slice off the 9-pin mini-DIN plug that comes
with it and stick an 8-pin one on. I took an Apple
Imagewriter cable and cut it in half. The pinouts have been
posted
------------------------------------------------------------
From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse on Black hardware
Date: 30 Jun 1994 05:48:15 GMT
It's a Logitech MouseMan Bus mouse, which comes with a ISA
card for PC's.
The following are pin placements for the connectors, looking
at them from the solder pin view (the end your looking at when
soldering on the cable). The numbers correspond the the 10 pin
single row connector within the Logitech mouse.
NEXT
------------
6 1 3
10 9 7
8 4
LOGITECH
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From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps)
Subject: broken NeXTprinter wanted
Message-ID: <1994Dec16.155244.15711@cs.sfu.ca>
Organization: Faculty of Applied Science, Simon Fraser University
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 15:52:44 GMT
HELP!!
I'm trying to repair a NeXTprinter with an annoying problem, the lower
bearing for the laser scanner motor is very noisy. Rather than pay
$500.00+ for an entire laser scanning assembly I'm hoping that someone
reading this has an unwanted one lying around (perhaps with a broken
laser or motor, etc.) with an intact bearing.
All I really need is the scanner housing and the bearing - but if you
have an entire bruised/bashed/battered/broken/etc. printer and would
rather not bother with removing the assembly, I may still be interested
depending on where you are and what the shipping charges would be.
thanks
--Peter
email: peter@sfu.ca
PS: in fact, if you have any broken NeXT parts lying around gathering
dust please let me know...
From: brady@cybernetics.net (Don Brady)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 P-5's won't run NS/I? WHAT NOW?
Date: 17 Dec 1994 00:39:10 GMT
Organization: Cybernetx, Inc.
Message-ID: <3ctbve$4dn@jabba.cybernetics.net>
References: <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu>
Lee Altenberg (altenber@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: I heard that NeXT is saying that NEXTSTEP cannot
: run on any of the Gateway2000 Pentium boxes.
: Is this true? Does anyone have NS/I running
It runs fine on my Gateway P5/66.
It is just a question of peripherals and I order my machines stripped
and add my own. I don't even ask Gateway the question of whether "Next
runs on Gateways".
It is an Intel motherboard in a case and power suuply at a good price
that I want and got from Gateway.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley)
Subject: /etc files for modems
Message-ID: <D0xJKG.GGn@indirect.com>
Sender: usenet@indirect.com (System Operator)
Organization: Internet Direct, indirect.com
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 1994 00:48:15 GMT
Does anyone have valid /etc files for setting up the line speeds for 14.4 or
28.8 kbps modems for a NextStation ('040/25Mhz)? As I understand, it can
operate at least up to 38400 bps w/ no problem through the serial ports. Is
this correct, can you go at 57600 and 115200 straight through the serial port?
Does anyone have good /etc files that set up these speeds, or is it just a
matter of copying old lines and modifying them where ever you see a '9600'
and replacing with a '14400' or '57600'?
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: terence@sfsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 Gig HD for black
Date: 16 Dec 1994 20:31:49 GMT
Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona
Message-ID: <3cstfl$b99@maple.enet.net>
References: <LAO.94Dec15105601@wolf.zoo.ncl.omron.co.jp>
In article <LAO.94Dec15105601@wolf.zoo.ncl.omron.co.jp>
lao@zoo.ncl.omron.co.jp (LAO Shihong) writes:
> Does anybody has experience with Quantum Empire 2.1GB disk?
> Can it be used with black NeXT? is it noisy and hot?
Have one running as an external on oem h/w, another as an internal in an
80x86. Works good.
From: terence@sfsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: can't get my CD-rom to work (longish)
Date: 16 Dec 1994 20:36:27 GMT
Organization: Evergreen Communications, Phoenix, Arizona
Message-ID: <3cstob$bau@maple.enet.net>
References: <D0tvF9.6Es@indirect.com>
In article <D0tvF9.6Es@indirect.com> cyber@indirect.com (Jeff Jolley)
writes:
> I just recently added a 540 MB Quantum Pro-??? to my system. I put it
internal
> and put my 105 MB Quantum from inside my NextStation into an external
box.
>
> NOW, I can't use my HP CD-rom with my system as a mountable drive with
my
> system. I _CAN_ boot from the NeXTStep 3.0 (hint about my O/S) CD and
> initialize my internal 540. I have done that twice and totally
reformatted
Sounds like an SCSI id conflict. have you got the cd-rom's id set at
something lower than what you set the new internal drive's? If so, the
cd-rom will want to boot (it seems to boot off the lowest numerical
device, whether internal or external) and not the internal drive. Had
this problem on a Seagate drive whose jumpers did not match Seagate's tech
info and I had to play with jumpers until I got the right SCSI id.
Check the jumpers, as they may not necessarily be what the manual says.
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Question about Fujitsu 2624FA drive and black hardware.
Date: 17 Dec 1994 17:16:21 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <3cv6d5$185@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <3cnbh3$1tf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1994Dec15.203712.1204@nidat.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes:
>In article <3cnbh3$1tf@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst
>Kloecker) writes:
>> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes:
>>
>> >Hi. Does this drive have to be set to SCSI 1 or to SCSI 2 when being
>> >used with a NeXTstation externally?
>>
>> SCSI-2, but make sure to turn off synchronous (fast) SCSI.
>SCSI-2 is definitely wrong!
>Refer to NeXTAnswers on hardware to be found on ftp.next.com and many NeXT
The following excerpt is from NeXT-Hardware-Peripherals-FAQ :
Subject: M4. Can I run my SCSI-2 disks in synchronous mode?
Quick answer is: No. The reason is that the NeXT does not support
synchronous transfers from the SCSI bus. It does support SCSI-2 disks
running in asynchronous mode, which all SCSI-2 disks must do.
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: recommended hardware
Date: 17 Dec 1994 19:01:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3cvchd$ngt@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <3csh9o$n10@mordred.gatech.edu>
In article <3csh9o$n10@mordred.gatech.edu> jjb@pwilly.isye.gatech.edu
(John Bartholdi) writes:
> I have a black 040 cube and was wondering whether it is time to upgrade.
> Any opinions on whether the current best Intel box is now preferable?
>
Well, if you really like your NeXT hardware and just want more CPU
speed, it appears that a CPU upgrade (50 MHz 68040 - a clock-doubled 25
MHz 68040) will be available from Sam Goldberger (smg@orb.com) in a few
weeks for $899.
This is tempting to me because I really like my well-integrated
system. Going to an Intel machine would mean buying a new printer as well
as computer. But there are lots of pros and cons on both sides.
One of the big concerns I have is pouring more $$ into a 4.5-year-old
system. Wires in my mouse connector cable just broke due to metal fatigue
over the years. That was pretty easy to fix, but what's next? When will
the MO drive fail again (I'm already on #2)? How much longer will I be
able to run the most current version of NEXTSTEP on NeXT hardware?
But the one question that someone out there can probably answer: is
there any hope that the relatively poor SCSI performance of NeXT hardware
will ever be improved? Is it a hardware limitation? Is it just a SCSI
driver problem and if so, is there any hope that a new driver will be
written? If NeXT won't write it (why should they?), will they agree to
make public the info necessary to write a new driver?
Getting a faster CPU won't accelerate disk I/O, and poor disk I/O will
be an even greater bottleneck with a faster CPU. Even using the -pipe
flag to keep the various compilation stages in RAM rather than writing
intermediate files to disk, there's still the need to read all source
files and write the final executable which will limit how much compilation
time is improved with a faster CPU.
Opinions appreciated.
---
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development/consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: Brian Dear <70034.1062@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple LaserWriter 16/600 + NEXTSTEP???
Date: 17 Dec 1994 17:22:31 GMT
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Message-ID: <3cv6on$4qd$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
Anybody know if the Apple LaserWriter 16/600 can work with NEXTSTEP machines?
We have a network of PC's, Sun's, NeXT's, and PC's running NEXTSTEP. We want
to get a fast, hi-quality PostScript printer for our workgroup.
Any suggestions on stuff that NEXTSTEP can deal with?
Please reply to: brian@coconut.com
-- brian
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: High-end Video Card, NS@1600*1200*72Hz or better
Date: 17 Dec 1994 22:54:26 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <3cvq72$ktf@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I am currently looking for the most price effective, hi end video card to
run under NS/FIP at 1600*1200 in hi-refresh and color (yes, I have the
computer monitor, a Nokia 445X, which I can highly recommend).
There seem to be two primary alternatives:
A #9GXE64/Pro1600 4MB VRAM (supported under NS 3.3), and a PCI WINNER
2000PRO/H(4MB), which I understand supports 1600x1200 in 16-bit color at
77Hz. Specifically, I am curious about (not in order):
[1] availability
[2] edu pricing
[3] software support under NS: does the ELSA have
on-the-fly resolution changing?
[4] NS 3.2 and NS 3.3 support
[5] Windows drivers for the occasional foray into the DOS world.
*[6]* Your experience with the two.
The ELSA board seems to cost substantially more (though I have not yet
received updated price information from them; I sent email a couple of
days ago). The #9 is $769.95 at some mail order outfit, and also has the
high rate (250MHz?) RAMDAC. Further, it is certain to be supported in
future operating systems by NeXT itself. (I am not sure how committed
ELSA is, and whether they will still be around next year.) I also believe
that under NS, it is irrelevant if the card uses a 64bit or 128bit
processor, because NS draws into the frame buffer directly.
I would appreciate any information to make this decision.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: mikep@Quake.Net (Mike Park)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 Gig HD for black
Date: 18 Dec 94 06:28:22 GMT
Organization: QuakeNet Internet Services (email info@Quake.Net)
Message-ID: <mikep.787732102@gw.quake.net>
References: <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu>
Keywords: SCSI disk
In <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu> wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu (Herbert S. Wilf) writes:
>Has anybody out there attached a SCSI-2 HD of around 2Gb to a NeXT
>black and got it running? What brand did you buy, and how did you do
>it? I've been struggling with a Seagate and it simply won't work.
Seagate ST32550N 2.1G drive seems to work fine for me. You have ensured
that no partition is larger than 2*1024*1024*1024 bytes?
Mike
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From: (slugg jello)
Subject: Optical Drive is going?
Message-ID: <1994Dec18.052813.454@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com>
Sender: slugg@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com
Organization: Mouthing Flowers
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 05:28:13 GMT
Does anyone still use the old optical drives that came with NeXT cubes? I love
mine for use as a backup drive. Unfortunately I can no longer mount any of my
optical drives. I don't even get an "Eject, Repair, Initialize" message; the
drive whines a few times and simply spits out the optical disk with no comment,
not even in the console window. I can't run fsck or disk because the disks
simply won't stay in the drive. Is my optical drive biting the dust? (yes, I
did blow it out and it does have the dust cover)? Anyone know if there's a way
to salvage my drive? (ironic that the drive I'm backing up outlasts the backup
drive!).
Thanks!
--
Doug Kent
Mouthing Flowers, Inc.
slugg@mouthers.wa.com
From: terence@sfsc.com (Terence Liow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple LaserWriter 16/600 + NEXTSTEP???
Date: 18 Dec 1994 05:10:02 GMT
Organization: SFSC
Message-ID: <3d0g7a$alo@maple.enet.net>
References: <3cv6on$4qd$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
In article <3cv6on$4qd$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, Brian Dear <70034.1062@CompuServe.COM> says:
>Anybody know if the Apple LaserWriter 16/600 can work with NEXTSTEP machines?
>We have a network of PC's, Sun's, NeXT's, and PC's running NEXTSTEP. We want
>to get a fast, hi-quality PostScript printer for our workgroup.
We are using an Apple Laserwriter 600 (what is the 16/?) and it works quite well of the parallel port
of a 80x86 and the serial port of oem hardware.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: borrelli@ritz.mordor.com (Steve Borrelli)
Subject: Re: PS printers for NS/I
References: <3cphp4$rsf@panix.com> <1994Dec16.123354.16733@trimark.com>
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 00:16:01 GMT
Message-ID: <D0zCqp.I65@ritz.mordor.com>
In article <1994Dec16.123354.16733@trimark.com>,
Doug Sanders <dsanders@Trimark.com> wrote:
>In article <3cphp4$rsf@panix.com> dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) writes:
>> Hi. Some weeks/months ago, there was an extensive
>> discussion about which PostScript printers were
>> a good value (high quality/lowish price) to use
>> with NS/Intel.
>>
>> As I recall, the two winners were Sharp and Canon,
>> for their 600dpi models with 2-4 Megs of RAM.
>>
>> I would be most appreciative if someone could
>> provide me with the model numbers of the two
>> machines above, as well as any other recommendations
>> for good PostScript printers for NS/I.
>>
>> - David C. Lambert
>> dcl@homer.uu.panix.com
>
>Please post any info here as I am also in the market for a printer and
>would find this very useful.
>
>Thanks
>
>Doug
>
>dsanders@Trimark.com
(I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but..)
Look at the HP 4MP, too. It's 600dpi and comes with a PS cartridge and
extra memory (either 4 or 6 megs.) It is a slower printer(~4ppm).
My girlfriend has used hers to print a lot of scanned photos and the
results are very nice.
I think the price was around $1300. (might be a little high ...)
The best thing is to go to CompUSA or a similar store and print
test pages.
Good luck!
Steve
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From: root@rama.rain.org (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Getting reasonable performance from the Adaptec 6x60 under NeXTStep
Date: 18 Dec 1994 07:02:50 GMT
Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN
Message-ID: <3d0mqq$bud@news.rain.org>
Keywords: adaptec,nextstep,performance
I would like to know is anyone has managed to get performance over
1 Meg/sec with the Adaptec 6x60 under NeXTStep... I have it hooked up to a
Micropolis 2217 and a Chinon CD-ROM Drive... When I did tests on the
drive, my average throughput was like .3 megs / second...So if anyone has
any ideas on how to make this setup go faster other than buying a new
controller, please pass them on...
Milan Cole
stalker@rain.org
From: mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Disk speed of 2940 w/3.3... ?
Date: 17 Dec 1994 17:25:07 +0100
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <3cv3d3$2lu@marsu.s.bawue.de>
References: <schwettD0wCvw.9qJ@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Keywords: 2940 3.3
schwett@netcom.com writes:
>I am currently running an AiR motherboard that has a 2940W built in, and I'm
>wondering how the performance under 3.3 will compare to the NCR 825 that I
>was running under 3.2 with the Talus driver. I was getting extremeley good
>throughput with that combination... I do not recall the numbers
>precisely, but I think it was bout 2500 k/sec.
The performance of the 2940W should be about the same as with the 825.
>Also; I presume that the driver DOES work with the wide -SCSI version of the
>7870?
Yes, it works with wide-SCSI.
--
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work? // System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting
mail? // mow@marsu.s.bawue.de (non-commercial purpose only!)
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Epson Stylus driver under NS ????
Message-ID: <D0v8Ly.8L@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Keywords: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 18:56:22 GMT
Hi,
Does anyone know of any way to connect an Epson Stylus (the new fantastic
color printer from Epson) to NeXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3 ?
Thanks
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: altenber@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Lee Altenberg)
Subject: Intel Box -> NeXT printer: POSSIBLE?
Message-ID: <D0op08.HFD@news.hawaii.edu>
Sender: news@news.hawaii.edu
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 06:07:20 GMT
Prices for NeXT printers are very good,
compared with getting a new PostScript
printer. And NeXT printers are so much
faster since they just take raster information
from the CPU. But is there any way to run
them from an Intel box under NS/I? Does
anyone make a card for Intel boxes that
you can plug your NeXT printer into?
I have been able to print from an Intel box
running NeXTSTEP to a NeXT printer attached
to a networked Cube. So I know that NS/I
software is no problem, just the hardware
for the NeXT printer hookup. So does anyone
make such hardware?
Thanks,
Lee Altenberg
altenber@acpub.duke.edu
From: Brian Dear <70034.1062@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple LaserWriter 16/600 + NEXTSTEP???
Date: 18 Dec 1994 18:27:32 GMT
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Message-ID: <3d1uuk$plf$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>
We want a PostScript printer that is connected via twisted-pair
RJ45 Ethernet connector to our network, and anyone on the net,
using NEXTSTEP, Windows, Mac, or Solaris, can print to.
Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis)
Subject: Re: Optical Drive is going?
Message-ID: <1994Dec18.175517.1910@atd.rochester.ny.us>
References: <1994Dec18.052813.454@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 17:55:17 GMT
slugg jello () wrote:
: ................. Is my optical drive biting the dust? .............
I put a piece of tissue on a stick. (actually, the simm removal tool) and
reach in through the door to clean the lens.
Some other observations ...
The disks do seem to get more errors as they age, as if they wear out.
Reformatting helps, but often doesn't restore it fully.
I have a "bad" folder on my older OD's to help tame this. Move any file
getting errors there to in effect lock out the sectors it uses. (Does
anyone have a better idea for this?)
You may be able to mount a bad OD manually, read-only. Copy the files
off, reformat, put them back. Don't trust fsck. (That is what won't let
you automount.)
As much as we (mostly non-next owners) have criticized the OD for its poor
data integrity, floppies are much worse and only store a meg.
Tapes are worse yet because there a single error usually blows the whole
tape.
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New Drivers....
Date: 18 Dec 1994 21:41:25 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <3d2aa5$hv6@network.ucsd.edu>
The new driver overviews say that Enhanced IDE will be supported in
a future version of the driver.
--
-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu
-Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego
-*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to
-*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: smantler@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ne2000 ethernet card on NeXT?
Date: 18 Dec 1994 23:34:19 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3d2gtr$b1s@news.tuwien.ac.at>
We are trying to install a Novell ne2000 ethernet card under NeXT,
but we can't find drivers for it. Could you please point to an
internet site where we can download them or NeXTmail them to
smantler@cslab.tuwien.ac.at...
Thank you for your time,
Stephan Mantler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: schwett@netcom.com
Subject: ATi GPT/4PCI Strange interference... ?!
Message-ID: <schwettD119FJ.B2A@netcom.com>
Summary: bizzare love triangles.
Keywords: ati nextstep intel
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 00:59:42 GMT
I seem to have a poser!
I just upgraded my motherboard, to a EISA/PCI one with a 2940W integrated...
:)
But for some reason my ATi GPT now displays a screen covered with bizzre
moire-like interference patterns. Additionally, the brightness is
extremely low. (It's not set low in pref...app)
This occurs in every single mode from 800x600 100hz to 1280x1024 75hz. The
display is fine in microShaft Windows, and in 3D studio etc etc. The
patterns fade in and out, particularly fading in when I move windows,
access the disk, etc.
I've tried both the Talus driver and the free driver from ftp.seanet.com.
They both have similar problems, although the Talus driver is not as dim and
the patterns are less noticeable.
Incidentally, the window motion is incredibly smooth at 1152x896x32 bit
with the driver from seanet; for some reason it is much better than it
was on my other 90mhz pentium system.
Any suggestions wuold be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Mark Schwettmann
--
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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Different laptop video support
Date: 18 Dec 1994 18:48:12 -0800
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <3d2s9c$bot@lanai.cs.ucla.edu>
As many of you are probably aware, NEC is coming out with a 800x600 (256
colors) active matrix color screen for its Versa M and Versa P notebooks.
Now, I understand that NeXTStep 3.3 will support the 640x480 mode of
most laptops -- but what are the chances that it will support an 800x600
mode, and specifically on the NEC? If it won't, what are the chances that
anybody external will write drivers for it?
On a related note, will (does?) NeXTStep support laptops driving external
monitors in their various 1084x800-type modes?
Thanks in advance for any info. I'll summarize if there's interest.
- Trent Lange
From: Leo L Turetsky <lt2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/i Printe Compatibility
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 01:16:05 -0500
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wixGIZ200YUnIPBFRH@andrew.cmu.edu>
Does anyone have a list (or know where I can get one) of laser printers
that will work with NS/i 3.2? Also, what is the minimum amount of RAM
that one might want to have in this printer (it will be used to print up
the occasional paper and C program). Thanks for any info.
-Leo
+----------------------------------------------------+
| Leo Turetsky <esp> leo@cmu.edu (NeXT-Mail Welcome) |
|----------------------------------------------------+
| Carnegie-Mellon University | Leo, your mom called. |
+----------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jacques Garbi
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 P-5's won't run NS/I? WHAT NOW?
Message-ID: <D0x16G.12K@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Sender: jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Organization: Jacques GARBI, Switzerland
References: <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 18:11:04 GMT
In article <3clush$ce2@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee
Altenberg) writes:
> I heard that NeXT is saying that NEXTSTEP cannot
> run on any of the Gateway2000 Pentium boxes.
> Is this true? Does anyone have NS/I running
> on a Gateway2000 Pentium? I had been
> planning to buy a Gateway2000 Pentium box
> solely in order to have NEXTSTEP.
> If Gateway2000 is out (they said they
> no longer make the 486DX2/66V), what would
> people out there recommend as the best
> price/performance box for NEXTSTEP?
> Thanks,
> Lee Altenberg, altenber@acpub.duke.edu
Well, I really don't understand all that fuss about Gateways !! I bought
three different GW's in 1 and a half year and they all were able to run NS
without any problems.
1. I bought a GW2000 486-66MHz that ran NS 3.1 absolutely fine
2. GW2000 P5-60 Pentium 66MHz that ran NS 3.2 absolutely fine
3. GW2000 P5-90 Pentium 90MHz that still runs NS 3.2 absolutely fine.
All three have the Adaptec 1542C, Intel EtherCard, 48MB of RAM, 3GB HD,
Sony CD-ROM, External SCSI-SyQuest, HPScanner IIcx (SCSI). The 486 was VLB
and had the ATI card and both Pentiums are PCI and have the PCI miro
Crystal 32S with 4MB VRAM.
Installing NS on those systems was really easy, except for the first time,
because of problems with the SCSI card. Once corrected, it was nice and
soft to install NS 3.2 on all three machines. And it runs great and fast
now. I'm working in 1152x952 in 32bits color and it's still very fast.
I don't understand all the problems people had with Gateways. I'm using
their keyboards, their everything (even their Bios) and it works great.
Just my own personnal experience with machines that I love (especially for
the price)
---
Dr. Jacques GARBI
TOUGA MANAGEMENT Ltd.
Av. Davel 18
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone/Fax : 011 41 21 648 44 07
NeXTMail : jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS3.3 + Talus NCR SCSI driver?
Date: 19 Dec 1994 07:19:22 GMT
Organization: Internetworks, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d3c5q$9ij@pdx1.i.net>
I just ordered the 3.3 upgrade and was wondering if the Talus NCR driver
will work with it.
Thanks
--
Steven Kornreich
Kornreich Communications
steve@eps.com >> http://www.eps.com
NeXTMail OK
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From: crb@silvertone.princeton.edu
Subject: Re: Optical Drive is going?
Message-ID: <1994Dec18.231511.25477@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@hedgehog.Princeton.EDU
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1994Dec18.175517.1910@atd.rochester.ny.us>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 23:15:11 GMT
In article <1994Dec18.175517.1910@atd.rochester.ny.us>
al@atd.rochester.ny.us (Al Davis) writes:
>
>
> Some other observations ...
>
> The disks do seem to get more errors as they age, as if they wear out.
> Reformatting helps, but often doesn't restore it fully.
>
how do you reformat ods? just hitting initialize doesn't do it...
I have heard you can fix ECC errors with /etc/disk by reading and writing
to the bad block but it never works for me. Are there magic numbers for
the various arguments to get it to work?
thanks
Curtis Bahn
crb@silvertone.princeton.edu
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ne2000 ethernet card on NeXT? -- thank you !!
Date: 19 Dec 1994 15:20:53 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3d48cl$q75@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3d2gtr$b1s@news.tuwien.ac.at>
I want to thank everybody for the fast help...
I just copied the drivers I received via NeXTMail and we'll be connected
to the net very soon (i hope).
once again, thank you very much!
-Stephan Mantler
From: kaoki@yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: missing mice for black hardware
Date: 19 Dec 1994 07:46:54 GMT
Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Dec19164655@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
References: <mhiggs-1512942008350001@dal25.onramp.net>
<3csn9s$8uo@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: takken@raven.stanford.edu's message of 16 Dec 1994 18:46:20 GMT
>>>>> On 16 Dec 1994 18:46:20 GMT, takken@raven.stanford.edu
(Todd Takken) said:
Todd> In article <mhiggs-1512942008350001@dal25.onramp.net> mhiggs@austinc.edu
Todd> (Michael Higgs) writes:
>
> Small private college inherits 2 slabs and 3 cubes...but alas,
> only 2 mice. Any suggestions?
Todd> Here are excerpts from previous postings to this newsgroup.
[.... very useful do-it-yourself info deleted ....]
Recently, there was a posting in c.s.n.marketplace saying that
dancing bear now has a logitech mouse adapter for non-adb
systems for $18. This might be another option. (contact:
tim@dancingbear.com, 808-875-2455) For instance, I haven't
touched a soldering iron for a few years so considering my time
and effort, I would just go and buy an adapter from them.
btw, I have no relation to db except that i am a potential
customer. (but my mouse is still pretty healthy :-)
Happy NeXTing.
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
... posting from kyoto....
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI On Board Graphics
Date: 19 Dec 1994 18:26:09 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <3d4j81$l5e@godot.cc.duq.edu>
Perhaps the net-presence has some thoughts on this problem.
I'm trying to get NeXTstep 3.2 up and running a Dell OmniPlex 590.
I'm using the BusLogic's SCSI Driver (formerly located in 3.2_Beta_Drivers
at ftp.next.com) and that seems to be working like a champ.
What I'm stuggling with is the graphics card. After being able to get no
better than VGA resolution from the packaged drivers I switched to the
ATI Mach32 On baord graphcs driver (as I believe that that is what the
machine is using) and I was able to get the resolution up to 800x600 in
8bit gray. I got this driver from ftp.next.com in 3.2_Beta_Drivers which is
now 3.2Drivers/Beta.
Then I discovered that the machine only had 1 mb of video ram
and I assumed that was the problem. We've updgraded the video ram to 2mb
but I'm still unable to use any resolution above 800x600.
Anyone have any ideas? The monitor is a 17" color monitor that claims to
be able to sink at 1024x768 @ 72Hz
Thanks.
--Jason Brown
Senior Software Engineer
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
From: Richard Bullwinkle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE: Gateway problems with NEXTSTEP
Date: 19 Dec 1994 18:26:14 GMT
Organization: Systemics, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d4j87$gor@iserver.stem.com>
I have had one consistent problem installing NS on Gateway P-5 machines. I have the 100Mhz
variety -- which Gateway claims isa strictly INTEL motherboard. I cannot get past the
Registering: Keyboard0
step in the installation process. Next Tech support claims this is reoccurring problem with
Gateways, and told me about some jumper settings I would have to change. There areno
Jumpers on the new motherboard.
On the other hand, I cannot imagine a strictly Intel motherboard having such a goofy problem
as a keyboard error. This machine, unlike the earlier varieties, theoretically has nothing
Gateway on it.
I have alsoheard a rumor that Gateway puts a proprietary keyboard chip on their Intel
boards. I cannot substantiate this claim, and Gateway emphatically denies it.
I still have the machines, but will have to return them this week unless someone has an idea
to try.
Thanks,
Richard
rbullwinkle@stem.com
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Getting reasonable performance from the Adaptec 6x60 under NeXTStep
Date: 19 Dec 1994 16:52:11 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <3d4dnr$f92@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3d0mqq$bud@news.rain.org>
Keywords: adaptec,nextstep,performance
In article <3d0mqq$bud@news.rain.org> root@rama.rain.org (Operator) writes:
> I would like to know is anyone has managed to get performance over
>1 Meg/sec with the Adaptec 6x60 under NeXTStep... I have it hooked up to a
>Micropolis 2217 and a Chinon CD-ROM Drive... When I did tests on the
>drive, my average throughput was like .3 megs / second...So if anyone has
>any ideas on how to make this setup go faster other than buying a new
>controller, please pass them on...
Controllers using this chipset are really low-end. They don't have a BIOS,
nor are they capable of DMA. They're basically made so that vendors can
stick an adaptor in for a CD-ROM at cheapo cost.
The 2217 is a nice disk, and will perform much better with a real SCSI
card.
- darcy
--
"Don't you know that when dogs are hunted by the evil meat companies that lots
of innocent dolphins get caught in their nets?" 'Sea mammals! Who needs 'em.
This country would be better off without them. We should take all the sea
mammals, put them all in a boat, drive it out into the ocean and sink it.'
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS3.3 + Talus NCR SCSI driver?
Date: 19 Dec 1994 17:00:41 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d4e7p$gqr@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3d3c5q$9ij@pdx1.i.net>
In article <3d3c5q$9ij@pdx1.i.net> steve@eps.com writes:
>
>I just ordered the 3.3 upgrade and was wondering if the Talus NCR driver
>will work with it.
I think the answer is "as soon as they can get it out." Talus only got
the 3.3 driverkit a little while ago, so they have a bit of a disadvantage.
JCIS (who's driver is a modified version of Talus') reportedly has been
able to get their's to work with 3.3. You may have to switch your card
though (they are replacing mine for free... that's mighty nice of them).
- darcy
--
"Don't you know that when dogs are hunted by the evil meat companies that lots
of innocent dolphins get caught in their nets?" 'Sea mammals! Who needs 'em.
This country would be better off without them. We should take all the sea
mammals, put them all in a boat, drive it out into the ocean and sink it.'
From: ptolemy@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Matt Colvin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NextStep on Macintosh?
Date: 19 Dec 1994 20:33:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <3d4qnd$2h4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Keywords: Orange PC, Houdini card, Power Mac 6100
Sorry if these are FAQs, but...
I'm thinking of purchasing a Power Macintosh 6100/60 DOS compatible
system. It has an Intel 486 DX2/66 on a card ("Houdini") for its
processor-direct slot. It's 100% compatible with DOS, Windows, and OS/2.
This is extremely wishful thinking, I suspect, but I'd like to have OS/2,
the MacOS, and NS running on the same machine. ("hahahaha! Sheah, right,
and monkeys...")
First, would such a set-up be capable of running NextStep, given 32 MB of
Ram or so? Are there insurmountable incompatibilities with the video,
mouse, hard drive, keyboard or any other strange PC thingies foreign to me
(a lifetime Mac user who uses NS on the original NeXT hardware).
Second, if Houdini would not support NS, how about an OrangePC card?
Processors up to Intel DX4/100 are available on such cards.
Third: Would NS be able to use the Power Mac's built-in Ethernet port?
(not likely, I suspect).
Fourth: Does Steve Jobs have any plans to port NextStep to PowerPC
architecture, whether from Apple or IBM?
Direct any replies to ptolemy@wam.umd.edu or followup on the newsgroup.
Matt Colvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: precipi!neekibo (Hugues RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus driver under NS ????
Message-ID: <1994Dec18.222334.989@precipice.fdn.org>
Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org
Organization: Individual - Dijon, France.
References: <D0v8Ly.8L@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 22:23:34 GMT
In article <D0v8Ly.8L@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know of any way to connect an Epson Stylus (the new fantastic
> color printer from Epson) to NeXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3 ?
>
last release of DOTS (see csn.announce)
"encore chaude" :-)
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96
neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't format a Quantum Lightning 730 to 1024 byte/block
Date: 19 Dec 1994 10:15:24 -0800
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d4ijs$nab@triton.ucsd.edu>
References: <Qiw8qk_00Uh_Q4Tb1S@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <Qiw8qk_00Uh_Q4Tb1S@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
|Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 15-Dec-94 Re: Can't format
|a Quantum .. by James B. Frazer@mitre.or
|> Even though the header files say Unix file system uses 1024 byte
|> fragments, NeXT left my 400 MB disk formatted in the factory standard
|> 512 byte sectors. Maybe they knew what they were doing?
|
|Maybe, but the evidence is against it. :-) ** 2
|
|I have the original Seagate ST1280 (250 MB) drive that came with my
|slab, which shipped with 512 sectors from NeXT. Reformatting it to 1024
|gave me around 10-15 % more space, and seems to have improved
|performance noticably, although I didn't have hard benchmarks available
|for that.
Time for another hard hardware lesson: any disk drive that uses
embedded servo information can not be re-formatted to a different
block length. Some drives of this type can be set to lie to the
operating system and claim that they have 1kB blocks instead of 512B,
but there is no real change in the data structure on disk.
The first example that comes to mind of a drive with embedded servo
is the DEC DSP-3105. I'm pretty sure that Quantum drives do this too,
and of course Quantum now owns DEC's previous line of drives.
Seagate drives, on the other hand, frequently use a dedicated surface
to hold the servo information, and can be re-formatted to other block
lengths.
carl
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From: J.L. Nordquist <free@f801.n115.z1.fidonet.org>
Subject: NeXT 17" MegaPixel Color pin-out? ? ?
Message-ID: <1994Dec19.233728.10891@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: FreeBase BBS (FidoNet 1:115/801)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 23:37:28 GMT
I have a 17" MegaPixel Color NeXT monitor and would like to find a source
for the pinout to convert it for use on an Intel system. Has anyone done
this, or is it feasible? Where can I obtain the pinout???? If this is
not too feasible, is anyone interested in purchasing it? It's only flaw
is it tends to display a bit light, but always has. Make an offer?
Thanks..
jlnordqu@midway.uchicago.edu \
or > Johnathon
free@f801.n115.z1.fidonet.org /
From: penrose@wendy.ucsd.edu (Christopher Penrose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT CD-rom and CDPlayer.app
Date: 19 Dec 1994 19:56:55 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <3d4oi7$d8b@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: old cube
Hullo friends!
I have an old 040 cube running NeXTstep 3.2. Connected to it
is a NeXT CD rom drive. I have tried to use CDPlayer.app, and
it returns an error that it can not find the CD rom drive. The
same drive has sucessfully read PhotoCDs and ordinary NeXT CDs.
Is there some sort of issue that I am not aware of?
Chris Penrose
penrose@ucsd.edu
From: dario@osmin.cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Now is my turn: my Megapixel finally died...
Date: 20 Dec 1994 00:30:55 GMT
Organization: New York University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d58jv$be7@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
I confess I didn't pay much attention to all those messages about
dying 17" Color Megapixel displays. Now I pay the price... :-( My
monitor just died. Could anyone please send me the contact to Bell
Atlantic or any other company that will repair it?
Also, I remember seeing something about a company providing a new
monitor in exchange for the Megapixel... Do I remember correctly?
If so, can anyone comment on the deal and send me info about how
to reach this company?
Thanks in advance...
--
Dario
From: ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu (Y. MOK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Daydream
Date: 20 Dec 1994 01:32:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d5c7s$da5@news.service.uci.edu>
Does anyone know who is the U.S. distributor/dealer of
Daydream ?
Y. Mok
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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: --> Questions about UPS Hardware and Shutdown Software
Message-ID: <noringD139Ht.2HI@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 02:56:16 GMT
[followups set to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc]
Hello,
After a power failure took out part of my hard disk (luckily it's an oldie
and was about to be replaced anyway), it is painfully obvious that I should
have an Uninterruptable Power Supply for my pc computers. Also, since I'll
be gone quite often, but leave my pc's running continuously, whatever I get
must be able to automatically shutdown in an orderly fashion within a short
time after the power failure.
Here are my requirements:
1) It must simultaneously handle two (fully loaded) pentium pc's (17" monitors)
along with a laser printer and scanner.
2) It must keep power going long enough to allow shutdown via automated
shutdown software (and also manually if I'm around).
3) It must also be good at handling power surges, etc.
4) It should be reliable and manufactured by a reputable company experienced
in building such equipment. UL listing would be a plus.
5) Reasonably and competitively priced.
A couple of questions:
1) How much V-A capacity do I need?
2) What brands/models do you recommend?
3) Should I get two smaller ones or one larger one?
4) Is there any Windows automated shutdown software that you'd recommend?
Much thanks! This is being cross-posted to the other hardware groups since
this issue cuts across all platforms.
Jon Noring
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From: jbf@mitre.org (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black Hardware Disk Termination & Parity
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 22:44:03 -0500
Organization: Mitre
Message-ID: <jbf-1912942244030001@mbppp7.mitre.org>
Does anyone out there know why NeXT wants the internal drive to supply termination power? They must be supplying the external termination power since the internal drive isn't. Are they sensing the termination power current draw to determine if there are external SCSI devices?
And despite Sam Goldberg's comment to the contrary, my internal 400 MB is set for parity. Is this a change from earlier drives?
Thanks for any info.
Barney
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka)
Subject: P90 VLB Motherboards?
Message-ID: <1994Dec19.235438.1295@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 23:54:38 GMT
Has anyone bought just a P90 VLB motherboard to upgrade from a 486-66? I'm
thinking about upgrading, and wonder if anyone knows of one that works without
any problems. I have VLB video and SCSI cards that I don't want to have to
replace, and don't think that PCI is worth the bother at this point anyway.
Any chipsets or BIOSes to avoid? Anyone know if Intel will replace the
processor if it has the floating point bug- should I wait it out just for
that? (I do some rendering from time to time...)
Thanks!
Mike Stepniczka
step@il.us.swissbank.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: --> Questions about UPS Hardware and Shutdown Software
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 06:33:32 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <oixg4Am00iUx40j2Q9@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <noringD139Ht.2HI@netcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Dec-94 --> Questions
about UPS Har.. by Jon Noring@netcom.com
> After a power failure took out part of my hard disk (luckily it's an oldie
> and was about to be replaced anyway), it is painfully obvious that I should
> have an Uninterruptable Power Supply for my pc computers.
I sent him the UPS FAQ via email; so there's no need to answer Jon's
questions as the FAQ seems to cover everything in detail.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | Vitamin L Rule #1:
--------------------------------------------+
AMS & normal mail: infidel+@cmu.edu | If you "whoosh" me, I'll
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | _poke_ you! (Ouch.)
From: mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: --> Questions about UPS Hardware and Shutdown Software
Date: 20 Dec 1994 14:30:28 GMT
Organization: Dep. Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, R.O.C
Message-ID: <3d6pq5$hmr@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
References: <oixg4Am00iUx40j2Q9@andrew.cmu.edu>
> I sent him the UPS FAQ via email; so there's no need to answer Jon's
> questions as the FAQ seems to cover everything in detail.
If there is a FAQ, please send a copy to me,
Thanks
Mark
mark@nextstep.dorm6.nctu.edu.tw ( MeXTmail Welcome )
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TALUS NCR for 3.3
Date: 20 Dec 1994 15:55:44 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com>
We have received dozens of phone calls and emails over the past week, now
that 3.3 is shipping, asking us if our NCR driver is ready for 3.3. This
included a couple of callers who wanted assurances that the driver has
been thoroughly beta tested.
I've made more than one post here criticizing NeXT's failure to ship a
driver kit for 3.3 to developers in a timely manner, however, no one
seemed very concerned about it at the time and someone even accused me of
"harping" on NeXT. NeXT has obviously been writing 3.3 drivers for
months, judging from the multitude of new PCI drivers available in 3.3,
yet they failed to ship the driver kit to third parties until _after_ the
final release of 3.3! This is totally inexcusable and will force a number
of users to either purchase new hardware or delay installation of 3.3.
We completely understand the seriousness of this problem and we're doing
everything we can to update our NCR driver in record time. But please
understand, however, that we aren't miracle workers and we won't ship a
product that doesn't work. We apologize for the inconveniences that this
will cause our customers, but we would like to point out that the blame
for this delay belongs with NeXT alone...and not with Talus. Please do
not flame us for something we had no control over (despite our "harping").
We sincerely hope that you'll drop a line to your favorite person at NeXT
and let them know if this delay will cause you any inconvenience. Perhaps
they won't do this again with 4.0. We will post a message to all news
groups once the driver is close to shipping....which we hope will be soon.
On a much brighter note....
As many of you know, Tanya is expecting a new baby girl. We sincerely
want to thank those of you that sent your well-wishes. The doctor says
that the baby could come literally any day now, so Talus will go on a
part-time schedule for the Christmas/baby season. (Some people will do
anything to get time off :-) We will be checking email and other messages
as time allows. We wish everyone a very Merry Christmas.
Sincerely,
Steve Sarich
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
steve@talus.com
Voice: 713-578-1434
Fax: 713-578-1815
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Subject: Re: NextStep on Macintosh?
Message-ID: <1994Dec20.085310.35782@cc.usu.edu>
From: mike@hobbs.chem.usu.edu (mike emmel)
Date: 20 Dec 94 08:53:09 MDT
References: <3d4qnd$2h4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In article <3d4qnd$2h4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> writes:
> Sorry if these are FAQs, but...
>
> I'm thinking of purchasing a Power Macintosh 6100/60 DOS compatible
> system. It has an Intel 486 DX2/66 on a card ("Houdini") for its
> processor-direct slot. It's 100% compatible with DOS, Windows, and
OS/2.
>
> This is extremely wishful thinking, I suspect, but I'd like to have
OS/2,
> the MacOS, and NS running on the same machine. ("hahahaha! Sheah,
right,
> and monkeys...")
>
> First, would such a set-up be capable of running NextStep, given 32 MB
of
> Ram or so? Are there insurmountable incompatibilities with the video,
> mouse, hard drive, keyboard or any other strange PC thingies foreign to
me
> (a lifetime Mac user who uses NS on the original NeXT hardware).
>
> Second, if Houdini would not support NS, how about an OrangePC card?
> Processors up to Intel DX4/100 are available on such cards.
>
> Third: Would NS be able to use the Power Mac's built-in Ethernet port?
> (not likely, I suspect).
>
> Fourth: Does Steve Jobs have any plans to port NextStep to PowerPC
> architecture, whether from Apple or IBM?
>
> Direct any replies to ptolemy@wam.umd.edu or followup on the newsgroup.
>
> Matt Colvin
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <3d4qnd$2h4@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> you
wrote:
> Sorry if these are FAQs, but...
>
> I'm thinking of purchasing a Power Macintosh 6100/60 DOS compatible
> system. It has an Intel 486 DX2/66 on a card ("Houdini") for its
> processor-direct slot. It's 100% compatible with DOS, Windows, and
OS/2.
>
> This is extremely wishful thinking, I suspect, but I'd like to have
OS/2,
> the MacOS, and NS running on the same machine. ("hahahaha! Sheah,
right,
> and monkeys...")
>
> First, would such a set-up be capable of running NextStep, given 32 MB
of
> Ram or so? Are there insurmountable incompatibilities with the video,
> mouse, hard drive, keyboard or any other strange PC thingies foreign to
me
> (a lifetime Mac user who uses NS on the original NeXT hardware).
>
> Second, if Houdini would not support NS, how about an OrangePC card?
> Processors up to Intel DX4/100 are available on such cards.
>
> Third: Would NS be able to use the Power Mac's built-in Ethernet port?
> (not likely, I suspect).
>
> Fourth: Does Steve Jobs have any plans to port NextStep to PowerPC
> architecture, whether from Apple or IBM?
>
> Direct any replies to ptolemy@wam.umd.edu or followup on the newsgroup.
>
> Matt Colvin
Well I'll give you my stratagy on this matter.
One I desperatly want a power pc but there not supported by next.
I ham buying a P90 with all SCSI perhiasl darive cdrom. also I'm getting
72 60ns memory wich is exactly the same as in the power pc. The last hope
is that my PCI video and drive cards are supported by the CHRP power pc
and next.
Thus my solution is to buy a P90 right now spend all my money on the
monitor and a nice scsi drive (2 gig) (monitor 20-21 inch) etc. in a year
or so the CHRP (prep) power pc will be out and its known that Next already
has a port to the power pc but won't release it :(
When 4.0 comes out I'm sure the power pc will be supported and also
multiprocessing. So at that time I drop a bunch of money for a
multiproccesor powerpc board and junk Intel:)
Thats my plan you might like it. Do not buy a non PCI mac. Next will never
suport it wait till the prep or crhp whatever spec is out and mac is
compliying.
theres my 0.02c
Mike
From: bishopj@botany.washington.edu (John Bishop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on a Micron P90 PCI powerstation
Date: 20 Dec 1994 20:59:43 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <3d7gjv$fkl@news.u.washington.edu>
Has anyone had any luck running NS 3.3 or 3.2 on a Micron P90 PCI powerstation?
What problems can I expect to run into? Who else should I ask about this? I
haven't had much luck figuring this out based on the hardware compatibility
guide or from NextAnswers. The system has:
MagDX17F monitor
Western digital 527MB enhanced IDE drive
U.S. robotics 14.4 fax modem
Intel Neptune PCI Chip set
Mitsumi 280ms CD-ROM
Phoenix 1MB flash Bios
8mb RAM
Windows 3.11 (Yikes!)
Thanks for any help!
--
John Bishop
Department of Botany
University of Washington, Seattle
bishopj@botany.washington.edu
From: walkup@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu (John Walkup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE: Advice Needed on NS Purchase
Date: 20 Dec 94 19:38:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Oklahoma (USA)
Message-ID: <walkup.787952308@phyast>
Summary: RE: Advice Needed on NS Purchase
Keywords: Next,computers
I thank everyone who posted or emailed advice on purchasing NS for
use by a small physics department. The general conclusion was that
an HP700 series was the best bet. So I called the HP retail rep
for the university and found that I could not get a discount
on their machines. This makes the HP700 series too expensive for
what I want.
Now it looks like Sun may be able to give me a good discount on their
computers. So I am considering a SPARC 20. Since Next plans on
porting NS onto the SPARCS later this year, is there anything I should
be especially aware of before buying a SPARC?
For those who missed my earlier post I want to buy a fast workstation
Here are the requirments:
1. I want to use it on an ethernet for use by an entire physics department
(small, maybe 20 people at most). So it must multitask very well and
be quick at floating point operations.
2. It must be able to run NS and run it well. (No headaches.)
3. I want good and fast graphics.
4. I don't want to spend more than $15,000.
Should I consider a Pentium, or many Pentiums? Does Silicon Graphics
have a port for NS, and if so, would anything they have be recommended?
How about a monster NeXT like a NeXTDimension running lots of memory?
One more question. Sun is supposed to have out a HyperSPARC chip now
and later will introduce an UltraSPARC chip. Should I look into these?
Thanks again for all those who bothered to help me out.
John
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: problems with 270MByte Syquest
Date: 20 Dec 1994 22:38:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <3d7md4$1di@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hi netters!
I just got a new 270Mbyte Syquest (from Mirror, SyQuest SQ3270S Rev 2_04
as reported during the boot sequence) and installed it in a black cube
running 3.2. Everything went fine at first. Connect the drive to the SCSI
chain, power everything up, insert disk, get it initialized and so on. I
copied plenty of files from our server, again no problem. I read files
from the disk, no problem.
Then I tried copying form the optical to the Syquest... after a while I
got a frozen system (not even spinning wheel). After lots of tries and
reboots I've come to the conclusion that there is some kind of problem
when copying from a SCSI device to the Syquest (copying from the Syquest
to another hard disk seems fine). After a while I can hear the Syquest
clicking, then no more activity and if I wait long enough a frozen system.
Anybody out there with similar problems? If you have none, what firmware
revision are you running on the Syquest? (you can find out by looking at
/usr/adm/meesages).
Thanks for any help!
-- Fernando
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
PS: maybe somebody out there will be able to interpret this list of errors
coming from /usr/adm/messages (in this case it looks like the scsi
interface got really confused and could not page to disk, which probably
caused the freeze):
Dec 20 10:15:39 cmn9 mach: Disk Label: nando
Dec 20 10:15:39 cmn9 mach: Disk Capacity 255MB, Device Block 512
bytes
Dec 20 10:24:41 cmn9 mach: sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:2 scsi
status:0x0
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 last message repeated 14 times
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2: UNIT ATTENTION
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi
status:0x0
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2 (5,0): sense key:0x6 additional sense
code:0x29
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2: invalid label
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:9 scsi
status:0x0
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2: invalid label
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:9 scsi
status:0x0
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2: invalid label
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:9 scsi
status:0x0
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: IO error on pageout: error = 5.
Dec 20 10:24:48 cmn9 mach: vnode_pageout: failed!
From: ckminer@longs.lance.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Daydream
Date: 21 Dec 1994 02:55:28 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d85f0$kfn@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3d5c7s$da5@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <3d5c7s$da5@news.service.uci.edu> ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu (Y.
MOK) writes:
>
> Does anyone know who is the U.S. distributor/dealer of
> Daydream ?
>
I know it can be had from OpenSource at 1.800.try.open or
1.303.861.4411... Hope this helps
R's
chris
From: pdx4d@teleport.com (Kirby Urner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Newbie seeks Quick Reality Check
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 19:09:23 LOCAL
Organization: 4D Solutions
Message-ID: <pdx4d.107.00977F0E@teleport.com>
I am a Windows/DOS user. I just purchased a gig EIDE drive and the
motherboard BIOS upgrade to use it. An architect friend of mine
gave me the NeXT software some time ago (version 3.1) and I'm wondering if
I even have the option of putting it in a non-DOS partition. As I
understand it, the BIOS chip coming in the mail will allow me to
specify my boot drive in CMOS, so if I've partitioned the gig into
a DOS/Windows and non-DOS area, perhaps I can convince Next to
install itself to the non-DOS drive letter (say F:). Then I can
go into CMOS and make F: my boot drive and turn my machine on and
have it running NeXT. Switch back to C: as my boot drive, and get
DOS.
But let me be more general with my question: given I have a 486/66
with 16MB RAM and a gig EIDE hard drive, is their any conceivable way
that I can run NeXT (perhaps not in color, given my RAM limit). Who
has a system configured that makes both DOS/Windows and NeXT accessible
and how do you do it? Suppose I had a whole other drive, and could
tell CMOS to make it the bootable one -- then could NeXT and DOS
co-exist?
I do not have an urgent need for NeXT personally, but have great
interest and respect for it (even on a 486). Since I'm going to
be formatting the gig soon (not installed yet), any timely feedback
as to feasibility would be welcome -- I probably devote the whole
disk to DOS for now, but may backtrack later if this looks feasible.
Thanks for any help. Email replies encouraged: pdx4d@teleport.com
Kirby Urner
Oregon
------------------------------------------------
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From: walkup@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu (John Walkup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice Needed on NS Purchase
Date: 21 Dec 94 03:10:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Oklahoma (USA)
Message-ID: <walkup.787979442@phyast>
References: <walkup.787952308@phyast>
Keywords: Next,computers
One more thing. How about DEC? I hear their Alpha processored
computers are plenty quick but is the NS port any good?
Thanks again
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pec@netcom.com (Manabu Tokunaga)
Subject: FDDI &| ATM Solutions on Intel NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <pecD158pA.2Jv@netcom.com>
Summary: Findings on FDDI/ATM Solutions (So Far)
Keywords: FDDI, ATM, NEXTSTEP 3.x, INTEL
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 04:34:22 GMT
A few weeks ago I have posted a message here asking if anybody presently
have networking solution based on FDDI, CDDI, or ATM for NEXTSTEP 3.x
Intel architecture. I have not received any affirmative response.
I did speak with others in real-time with respect to this issue and so far
there is no solution.
I also spoke with people at JCIS where I buy our stuff. They are not
aware of and are not working on these soutions, however, I understood that
100 Base T type technology might become available soon.
So my conclusion thus is that there is a $ to be made for someone to develop
driver (and cards) for FDDI, ATM, CDDI type solutions. Good luck!
From: taweili@aludra.usc.edu (Ta-Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: low level format needed when changing SCSI card?
Date: 21 Dec 1994 01:16:57 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: taweil@aludra.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <TAWEILI.94Dec21011655@aludra.usc.edu>
Hi,
I am wondering if low level format is needed when I chanage harddriver. I originally
have DPT 2122 in my PC and with 3.3 I can finally use the on board Adaptec 7800. However,
when I configure the machine to use Adaptec, I got error "miss boot sector." My
machine is DECpc XL Server 590, Seagate Barracuda, and on board SCSI is Adaptec 7800 (2940's
on board version). Could someone help me configure this machine?
Thanks.
--
Ta-Wei "David" Li
Computer Engineering and Computer Science
University of Southern California.
Member, League for Programming Freedom
"Innovate, don't litigate."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@avus (Operator)
Subject: ADB Keyboard
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 08:44:49 GMT
Message-ID: <D15KAp.GC5@crash.cts.com>
Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem)
As of late I purchased an ADB keyboard mouse and sound box. I am running a
turbo cube with the newer bios, and adb cable, but for some reason it does
not get recognized as adb. As far as I know there should be no setting for
selecting keyboard to correct this problem. Any hints are appreciated..
From: kt04793@uwasa.fi (Petteri Heino)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Matrox - address
Date: 21 Dec 1994 08:27:38 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d8otq$q7d@zippo.uwasa.fi>
References: <3cnbah$6f@filtronix.eunet.be>
Filip Lingier (filip@filtronix.eunet.be) wrote:
: Hi,
: I'm looking for the mailing address of Matrox. Can somebody give it to me?
: They don't happen to have an e-mail address?
: Filip
If it is of any help, the BBS number for Matrox is 534-685-6008.
Pete.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Where to find NeXT-black ext HD case
Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 18:30:11 GMT
Message-ID: <D16BEB.MtA@ritz.mordor.com>
I've got my original 105M HD from my NeXTstation which I removed after
putting in the 1/2 gig one, but (as always!) I'm beginning to run out of
space. Thus, I'm considering hooking the 105 back up to the machine, for
swap, /tmp, and other miscellany.
My question is, where do I find a nice-looking (and reasonably
inexpensive) external HD case that would hold one (or perhaps 2) 3.5"
SCSI drives? Preference would be for a SCSI-2 connector on the back. The
most important aspect, however, is that it is black and matches my
NeXTstation!
Any suggestions, prices, etc?
Thanks
Matt
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u)
Subject: DAT audio drivers for NS?
Message-ID: <D16IzF.BGq@info.uucp>
Sender: news@info.uucp (news management)
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 21:14:03 GMT
Hi. I'm currently pricing P90 systems in my quest for an Intel box
to run NS on, and I'm interested in DAT tape backup units. I think
that I read somewhere one time that there are actually audio drivers
available under NS to allow you to use these drives to listen to
audio DAT's. Is this true?
Would I be able to have music playing in the background similar to a
CD-ROM? Would it be play-only, or would there be some way of recording
audio data to one of these drives?
Any info appreciated,
--
Phil Martin. mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca
GCS/S -d+ !p c++ u+ e+(*) m--- s-/++ n++ h-- f+ w+ t r- y?(**)
"It's the second half of the cruise.
And you know he hates to lose."
From: aeg@hobbes.crc.com (Tony Glover HSV)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on a Micron P90 PCI powerstation
Date: 21 Dec 1994 08:54:19 -0500
Organization: Coleman Research Corporation
Message-ID: <3d9c2b$t2j@hobbes.crc.com>
References: <3d7gjv$fkl@news.u.washington.edu>
John Bishop (bishopj@botany.washington.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone had any luck running NS 3.3 or 3.2 on a Micron P90 PCI powerstation?
: What problems can I expect to run into? Who else should I ask about this? I
: haven't had much luck figuring this out based on the hardware compatibility
: guide or from NextAnswers. The system has:
: MagDX17F monitor
: Western digital 527MB enhanced IDE drive
: U.S. robotics 14.4 fax modem
: Intel Neptune PCI Chip set
: Mitsumi 280ms CD-ROM
: Phoenix 1MB flash Bios
: 8mb RAM
: Windows 3.11 (Yikes!)
: Thanks for any help!
: --
: John Bishop
: Department of Botany
: University of Washington, Seattle
: bishopj@botany.washington.edu
John,
You did not mention it, but I'm assuming that you are going to be using
the BusLogic BT 946C which comes with the system. I am currently in the
process of trying to get NS 3.3 loaded using this controller and the
new driver available on the 3.3 distribution; however, I may have ran into
a bug. NeXT is taking a look at it and I hope they will be getting back to
me soon. If I am able to get 3.3 loaded, I will definetly post my
success.
Tony
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ne2000 ethernet card on NeXT -- ftp sites
Date: 21 Dec 1994 16:29:52 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3d9l60$g1j@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3d48cl$q75@news.tuwien.ac.at>
I have received several requests where to find the NE2000 drivers,
so here is a list where to get them via ftp.
roxette.mty.itesm.mx (131.178.17.100)
Location: /pub/next/submissions
3.2_Ethernet_Driver_NEx000.config.I.b.tar.gz
ftp.cs.orst.edu (128.193.36.32)
Location: /software/NeXT/binaries/drivers
3.2_Ethernet_Driver_NEx000.config.I.b.tar.gz
Location: /software/NeXT/demos/drivers/binaries
3.2_Ethernet_Driver_NEx000.config.I.b.tar.gz
- Stephan Mantler
-----------------------------------------------------
Computer Sciences Lab, Technical University of Vienna
email: smantler@cslab.tuwien.ac.at [NeXTMail welcome]
From: shishado@aol.com (SHISHADO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next Color Monitor on a PowerMac
Date: 21 Dec 1994 09:14:57 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3d9d91$4tj@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
will a NeXT color monitor work on a Mac
does anyone know for sure
From: wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Lenght limit of black printer cable?
Date: 21 Dec 1994 12:09:48 GMT
Organization: Uni-Stuttgart, 1.Physikalisches Institut
Message-ID: <3d95uc$oel@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Hi!
A friend of mine wants to use a very long self-made printer cable between
his Nextstation and Next laser printer. Hi soldered a 15 m cable which
does not work. Does anybody know a maximum lenght specification for this
printer cable?
Thanks,
Markus.
--
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work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting
mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
From: rick@bucky.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (Rick Workman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help: 1Gig external drive on NeXT
Date: 21 Dec 1994 15:20:23 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT
Message-ID: <3d9h3n$9vp@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU>
We need to buy an external drive for our NeXT and I need some
help/suggestions on what to do. We are choosing between a
Conner CFP1060S fast SCSI-II (1.06GB)
and a
Fujitsu FUM2694ESA.
Has anyone used one of these drives, and how do I format it, etc?
Thanks in advance
Rick Workman
Optical Sciences Center
University of Arizona
rick@bucky.opt-sci.arizona.edu
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Lenght limit of black printer cable?
Date: 21 Dec 1994 15:53:18 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <3d9j1e$t5k@godot.cc.duq.edu>
References: <3d95uc$oel@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Markus,
I seem to remember that there was something special about the way
a NeXT computer controlled the NeXT printer through the printer port. I
believe that the clock the printer uses comes from the NeXT computer.
What this means is that the length of the printer cable effects the timing
of the clock pulses arriving at the printer.
I got an email message a year or so ago from a fellow who put a scope
on the cable to figure out what was going on and finally decided that in order
to lengthen the cable you had to use RG-58 coax cable for EACH conducter,
tying all of the shields together to ground and you had to increase the
length of the cable in increments of 80 feet.
If you'd like I can try and find the email message that describes
how to build longer cables and send it to you.
--Jason Brown
Senior Software Engineer
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
Markus Wenzel (wenzel@w2.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de) wrote:
: Hi!
: A friend of mine wants to use a very long self-made printer cable between
: his Nextstation and Next laser printer. Hi soldered a 15 m cable which
: does not work. Does anybody know a maximum lenght specification for this
: printer cable?
: Thanks,
: Markus.
: --
: who? // Markus Wenzel
: work? // Navigator - System administration, Consulting, Troubleshooting
: mail? // wenzel@pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
: more? // http://s.pi1.physik.uni-stuttgart.de/wenzel/mow.html
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From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI On Board Graphics...More
Date: 21 Dec 1994 15:59:06 GMT
Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <3d9jca$t5k@godot.cc.duq.edu>
A few days ago I posted a message asking if any had any ideas why I couldn't
get better than 800x600 8bit gray from an ATI Mach 32 an board graphics
controller with 2Mb of video ram.
Stephane LUNATI sent me an email suggesting that the problem was caused
by some manufacturers using low-end DAC chips. He included part of a
NeXT Answer document that describes this situation and the fact that
NeXTstep will sense this and not allow the higher resolutions to avoid
running the DAC above its rated speed. Two examples of low end DAC's were
given in the NeXT Answer, Bt481 and ATT20C491.
I've since checked the chips in our Dell OmniPlex 590 and discovered that
the DAC is an ATT21C498-13. Can anyone tell me if this is one of those
'low-end' DAC chips that is causing my problem or perhaps suggest an
alternate solution?
Thanks.
Jason Brown
Senior Software Engineer
(NeXT Mail Welcome)
brown@next.duq.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko)
Subject: OD problems
Message-ID: <D166IK.2IH@cuug.ab.ca>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 16:42:10 GMT
All of a sudden I'm having problems with my OD. It has worked
flawlessly in the past. I put an OD in (any OD) and it spins
and click for about 30 seconds then stops. Doesn't mount or
eject. If I try running fsck or disk on /dev/od0a that command
just hangs and can't be killed (even by doing a power off or halt).
I get the following message in the console when I insert the OD:
od0?: drive command failed (busy timeout #1) block 0 phys
block -66384 (0:0:0)
Any help is appreciated. Please email directly to me at
twasko@cuug.ab.ca
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schubiger_s@ufper6
Subject: Re: Booting black from IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) ?
Message-ID: <1994Dec21.152047.9728@unifr.ch>
Sender: news@unifr.ch (User for news)
Organization: Universite de Fribourg, (Perolles), CH
References: <1994Dec14.072531.279@glocke.robin.de>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:20:47 GMT
In article <1994Dec14.072531.279@glocke.robin.de>, frank@glocke.robin.de (Frank Thomas) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I can not boot from the IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) (SCSI-Id 0) if it is
>the only drive in my configuration. The boot monitor just repeats these
>messages:
>
>SCSI unexpected msg:1
>sc: Unexpected msg
>
>all the time. If I attach a second drive (SCSI-Id 1) to my station I also
>get these messages but after some (3?) retries it says
>
>booting from target 0 lun 1
>
>after this line it prints a more verbose message with about 5 lines (which
>I can not recall exactly because its not recorded in /usr/adm/messages)
>which
>says that opcode 0x18 and 0x1b failed on the lun 0 (the IBM). After that
>it
>prints the message which drives it has detected and says its waiting for
>the drive to come ready (!!!). Now it continues to boot from the IBM
>(because
>it has the lower SCSI-ID). So it does not seem to be a termination
>problem.
>If it helps finding the problem I could post all "mode sense pages" as
>printed
>by the scsitools.
>
>Please help
>
> Thanks
>Frank
Hi Frank,
a few month ago I took a close look to your problem. I found a "bug" in the
IBM-firmware. So my opinion is, that the IBM Spitfire won't work at all
together with a Black NS. The problem is that the IBM disk does automatically
disconnect after a certain amount of disk blocks is transfered. The NS
SCSI-Driver doesn't excpect this behavior and prints this odd messages you
received. Probably a new NS Version will fix your problem.
Greeting
Simon
From: wtzchen@mailbox.syr.edu (May)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Advice needed: Graphics Acceleration
Date: 21 Dec 1994 17:37:39 GMT
Organization: Treasure Island
Message-ID: <3d9p53$q6b@newstand.syr.edu>
Hi:
I plan to buy Graphics Acceleration for NS 3.3
16-bit 2MB PCI card is prefered.
Could you give me some suggestion?
how about #9GXE 64 ? Does any one use it for NS ?
Thanks :)
Happy Holiday!!
May
From: rencsok@via-annex2-14.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting black from IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) ?
Date: 21 Dec 1994 17:49:53 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <3d9ps1$mcq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <1994Dec21.152047.9728@unifr.ch>
In article <1994Dec21.152047.9728@unifr.ch> schubiger_s@ufper6 writes:
> In article <1994Dec14.072531.279@glocke.robin.de>, frank@glocke.robin.de
(Frank Thomas) writes:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I can not boot from the IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) (SCSI-Id 0) if it is
> >the only drive in my configuration. The boot monitor just repeats these
> >messages:
> >
> >SCSI unexpected msg:1
> >sc: Unexpected msg
> >
> >all the time. If I attach a second drive (SCSI-Id 1) to my station I
also
> >get these messages but after some (3?) retries it says
> >
> >booting from target 0 lun 1
> >
> >after this line it prints a more verbose message with about 5 lines
(which
> >I can not recall exactly because its not recorded in /usr/adm/messages)
> >which
> >says that opcode 0x18 and 0x1b failed on the lun 0 (the IBM). After
that
> >it
> >prints the message which drives it has detected and says its waiting
for
> >the drive to come ready (!!!). Now it continues to boot from the IBM
> >(because
> >it has the lower SCSI-ID). So it does not seem to be a termination
> >problem.
> >If it helps finding the problem I could post all "mode sense pages" as
> >printed
> >by the scsitools.
> >
> >Please help
> >
> > Thanks
> >Frank
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> a few month ago I took a close look to your problem. I found a "bug" in
the
> IBM-firmware. So my opinion is, that the IBM Spitfire won't work at all
> together with a Black NS. The problem is that the IBM disk does
automatically
> disconnect after a certain amount of disk blocks is transfered. The NS
> SCSI-Driver doesn't excpect this behavior and prints this odd messages
you
> received. Probably a new NS Version will fix your problem.
>
I saw a similiar problem when I got my 660M Maxtor fixed. It came
back from the factory with Syncronous mode enabled rather than
asycronous mode (which at least the boot disk must be set to).
Find out from the manufacturer what jumper settings must be made
to re-enable asycronous and try it again. After that mine just
worked fine.. If you can't set to asyncronous (as I've heard some
drives now can't be set to this) then you might be out of luck.
The other thing is if you put this drive on the SCSI chain NOT
as the boot device whether it works or not. My 660M set to
syncronous would work, but gave one error at mount time on
the console (something about rot delay set to 4ms rather than 0ms or
the like). If it doesn't then the above solution probably won't work
(but you can try anyway).
Good luck and happy holidays,
Randy
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: cmsg cancel <3d9ms5$rts@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Control: cancel <3d9ms5$rts@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: 21 Dec 1994 17:01:09 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3d9n0l$rts@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL1]
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CD-ROM recommendations for Black Hdw.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 21 Dec 1994 17:01:44 GMT
Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <3d9n1o$rts@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <3d9ms5$rts@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Title says most of it. I'm finally in a financial position to buy a
CD-ROM for my home Next. I'd like at least double speed, Photo-CD
compatible. Anyone got a list?
--
=> Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <=
=> University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <=
=> tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
From: rsilvers@media.mit.edu (Rob Silvers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need video digitizer for Pentium NextStep -- is there one?
Date: 21 Dec 1994 19:43:10 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <3da0ge$p5j@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I have a Pentium running 3.3 and would like to get video into
RAM 640x480 30fps. Is there a driver for any board? PCI would
be best.
Thanks,
--Rob.
From: buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DSP modem on Black
Date: 21 Dec 1994 01:07:13 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <3d7v41$qbu@fermat.mayo.edu>
Some time back I saw a note about a German? company which made a piece of
hardware to attach to the DSP on the Black hardware and a piece of software
to make it all work like a modem. Anybody have the details?
buckley@mayo.edu
"The National Weather Service's 90-day outlook
through January...predicts only a 50-50 chance
of near normal precipitation in Southern and
Central California." -- Newspaper summary.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bhardwaj@cuug.ab.ca (Dharam Bhardwaj 282-6486)
Subject: NeXT Printers w/ Intel
Message-ID: <D16MBy.967@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 22:26:21 GMT
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
Subject says it. Is this possible if NS is on the Intel box?
If you know, please post or email.
Tx.
--
E-mail: bhardwaj@cuug.ab.ca |
NeXTMail: (under construction) |
Fax: 403-282-8969 Canada |
From: xela@acm.org (Matt Bezark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cogent ethernet boards
Date: 21 Dec 1994 23:49:26 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <3daeu6$93i@News1.mcs.com>
I have a Compaq luggable computer with an Intel
EtherExpress card. I have heard that the Cogent
boards are faster, but I can't find a source for
them. Please tell me if they are indeed faster,
and where I can get one
Thanks,
Matt Bezark
xela@acm.org
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DSP modem on Black
Date: 22 Dec 1994 00:25:33 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <3dah1t$2nr@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3d7v41$qbu@fermat.mayo.edu>
Paul Buckley (buckley@mayo.edu) wrote:
: Some time back I saw a note about a German? company which made a piece of
: hardware to attach to the DSP on the Black hardware and a piece of software
: to make it all work like a modem. Anybody have the details?
It's not a GERMAN company, it is an American company, Yrrid...Send them
some email inquiring about TTY DSP. It allows your DSP port to function
similarly to a serial port.
Try niall@yrrid.com.
Dave
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 2940 for NS3.2
Date: 22 Dec 1994 06:33:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3db6k3$7ad@news.service.uci.edu>
I just got an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card and I would like to use it with NS
3.2. Does anyone know if the NS3.3 driver for this card can be used under
NS3.2? If yes could anyone send the driver to me? (I would prefer to wait
for the academic bundle of 3.3 before I upgrade). Thanks very much.
Please send me email at sideris@euclid.eng.uci.edu
(NeXT mail is OK)
--
Thanasis Sideris
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus driver under NS ????
Date: 22 Dec 1994 02:39:11 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3daosf$c14@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <D0v8Ly.8L@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>
In article <D0v8Ly.8L@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Jacques Garbi writes:
> Does anyone know of any way to connect an Epson Stylus (the new
fantastic
> color printer from Epson) to NeXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3 ?
I am looking into this, but I think it only comes with a
parallel port, so that NeXT black hardware would have to have some
kind of serial to parallel converter or switch to make this work.
Correct?
It is a GREAT printer.
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: pp001345@interramp.com (David L. Neumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 Gig HD for black
Date: 22 Dec 1994 02:50:08 GMT
Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3daph1$9k8@www.interramp.com>
References: <3cnu6r$khm@maple.enet.net>
In article <3cnu6r$khm@maple.enet.net> terence@sfsc.com writes:
> In article <3cmrn6$suh@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> dnw@williams
(David
> N. Williams) writes:
> > Todd Takken (takken@leland.stanford.edu) wrote:
> > : In article <3citnb$le2@netnews.upenn.edu> wilf@central.cis.upenn.edu
> > : (Herbert S. Wilf) writes:
> >
> > : > Has anybody out there attached a SCSI-2 HD of around 2Gb to a
> > : > NeXT black and got it running? What brand did you buy, and
> > : > how did you do it? I've been struggling with a Seagate and it
> > : > simply won't work.
>
I recently attached a Seagate Barracuda II SCSI-2 2.0+ GB drive to my cube
(daisy off of my SCSI CD-ROM). It was quite painless. I got it from one
of the Macintosh equipment vendors that advertise in the back of Macworld.
I plugged in the drive. Turned on the NeXT. NS didn't even ask me to
reformat. It saw the Mac file system there and just mounted the volume
(nicely indicated in the FileViewer by a red apple floating over a disk
platter with a 1.95 GB available capacity). However, I did reformat to
the NeXT file system after which the indicated available capacity was only
1.75 GB. (I'm not sure why the formatted NeXT capacity was so much less
than when it was formatted for a Mac.)
Other than the formated size, no other surprises to date.
- dave
--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
David L. Neumann
Exxon Production Research Co.
Houston, TX
73122,3677
pp001435@interramp.com
From: smantler@mesarthim.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Stephan Mantler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice needed: Graphics Acceleration
Date: 22 Dec 1994 13:25:11 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3dbunn$69n@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <3d9p53$q6b@newstand.syr.edu>
In article <3d9p53$q6b@newstand.syr.edu> wtzchen@mailbox.syr.edu (May)
writes:
> Hi:
>
> I plan to buy Graphics Acceleration for NS 3.3
> 16-bit 2MB PCI card is prefered.
> Could you give me some suggestion?
>
> how about #9GXE 64 ? Does any one use it for NS ?
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Happy Holiday!!
>
> May
Well I am using the #9GXE 64 Pro (4MB VRAM) -- VL Version and it works
fine... 1152x864 in 32-bit color and still 72 Hz -- go for it!
The 'regular' GXE64 (2MB DRAM) does not support these high refresh
rates... (150 Hz at 640x480... still 60 Hz at 1600x1200)
Suggestion: buy the 2MB Pro Version that's field upgradeable to 4MB...
It's not as expensive as the 4MB card but has VRAM -- high refresh !!
The only problem is that you need *LOTS* of RAM for it (16M minimum).
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DSP modem on Black
Date: 22 Dec 1994 02:57:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dapvf$g5c@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3dah1t$2nr@redstone.interpath.net>
In article <3dah1t$2nr@redstone.interpath.net> paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
writes:
>Paul Buckley (buckley@mayo.edu) wrote:
>: Some time back I saw a note about a German? company which made a piece of
>: hardware to attach to the DSP on the Black hardware and a piece of software
>: to make it all work like a modem. Anybody have the details?
>
>It's not a GERMAN company, it is an American company, Yrrid...Send them
>some email inquiring about TTY DSP. It allows your DSP port to function
>similarly to a serial port.
You are mistaken. TTY DSP does not implement a DSP modem. It simply
makes a very fast serial port out of the DSP along with necessary
drivers to make it all work.
What the original poster is looking for is "Mix" package from i*link in Germany.
Try info@ilink.de
And I believe Alembic is still a NA distributor for i*link. Contact
them at:
Alembic / Object Technologies, Inc.
14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228
Englewood, Colorado 80112
Toll Free: 1-800-452-7608
Phone: 1-303-799-6223
Fax: 1-303-799-1435
E-mail: info@alembic.com
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: 510-642-3323, (NeXT & MIME mails welcome)
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: info: HP vectra XM2 for NS/I?
Date: 22 Dec 94 07:32:55
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Dec22073255@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
HP Vectra XM2 has intergrated (on board?) s3 vision-864/64bit/2MB-DRAM
video system. Has anyone had experience in this system? Would it be a
good NS/I system?
Thanks,
ZZ
From: bangerte@krabat.unibe.ch (Endre Bangerter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI On Board Graphics...More
Date: 22 Dec 1994 15:14:33 GMT
Message-ID: <3dc54p$s9j@aragorn.unibe.ch>
References: <3d9jca$t5k@godot.cc.duq.edu>
In article <3d9jca$t5k@godot.cc.duq.edu> brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown)
writes:
> A few days ago I posted a message asking if any had any ideas why I
couldn't
> get better than 800x600 8bit gray from an ATI Mach 32 an board graphics
> controller with 2Mb of video ram.
>
> Stephane LUNATI sent me an email suggesting that the problem was caused
> by some manufacturers using low-end DAC chips. He included part of a
> NeXT Answer document that describes this situation and the fact that
> NeXTstep will sense this and not allow the higher resolutions to avoid
> running the DAC above its rated speed. Two examples of low end DAC's
were
> given in the NeXT Answer, Bt481 and ATT20C491.
>
> I've since checked the chips in our Dell OmniPlex 590 and discovered
that
> the DAC is an ATT21C498-13. Can anyone tell me if this is one of those
> 'low-end' DAC chips that is causing my problem or perhaps suggest an
> alternate solution?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jason Brown
> Senior Software Engineer
> (NeXT Mail Welcome)
> brown@next.duq.edu
>
>
I am running a Dell Omni 590 with NS 3.2. I bought the NCR SCSI and the
video
drivers from Talus. Everything works fine up to resolutions
of 1024 * 768 at 72 Hz and 1120 * 832 at 60 Hz. Unfortunately I get heavy
flickering in the middle (why only in the middle ?) of the screen at
1024 * 768 at 76 Hz and 1120 * 832 at 68 Hz, although my monitor supports
these resolutions.
Does anyone have the same problems ?
Is it possible that video driver has a bug?
bangerte@butp.unibe.ch
From: aeg@hobbes.crc.com (Tony Glover HSV)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: BusLogic BT-946C
Date: 21 Dec 1994 17:18:54 -0500
Organization: Coleman Research Corporation
Message-ID: <3da9ke$1jm@hobbes.crc.com>
Does anyone have a BT-946C that they are trying to get working with
NS 3.3. I am having trouble trying to load NS. I get a configSpace
error. Does that ring a bell for anyone?
Tony
From: sldq1@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Talus NCR install woes...HELP!
Message-ID: <1994Dec22.095211.35908@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 22 Dec 94 09:52:10 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Seasons greetings everyone,
I just received my NCR825/Fast-Wide Fujitsu/Talus NCR driver bundle (and
besides the fact that they sent me the wrong cable) I can't get the damn thing
to install NEXTSTEP 3.2.
I am hoping that some of you that have gotten this to work can shed some light
on this for me.
First off, this is a new install of NEXTSTEP on this machine. I attempted to
follow the Talus instructions, but it soon became clear that whoever had
written the instructions hadn't ever actually done an install. When I put in
the driver disk to install the needed drivers to install NEXTSTEP, there was
not just the NCR driver, but a PCI driver as well. I tried following the
instructions and just ignored the PCI driver...and it bombed.
So I did it again, this time installing the PCI driver after I had installed
the NCR. And it bombed again.
So finally I installed the PCI driver and then the NCR and it came up. I was
able to partition the HD and get it ready to install NEXTSTEP.
Well, after the initial bit it asks you to remove the disk and re-boot. I did
this and it asked for the diskette containing the drivers, and it loaded the
NCR first and then the PCI (I had no control over this) and of course it puked.
Well...I ran to work (where I have a bunch of machines running NEXTSTEP) and
made two driver disks. One with the PCI driver and one with the NCR driver.
(So that I could control which one loaded first.)
I returned home and went through a bit of floppy juggling and got it going and
it wouldn't recognize my CD-ROM drive! After going over all of the hardware
stuff (board irq's, scsi id's, terminations, etc.) I decided that it just must
hate me and my good ol' NeXT CD-ROM drive. I borrowed a friends Toshiba 3401
and it recognized it and I was able to get NEXTSTEP installed. <sigh>
BUT!...
After the install, you must re-boot and it will come up in NEXTSTEP right?
Nope...the system LOADED THE DAMN NCR driver before the PCI and puked. There
is no way I can see to rectify this. Surely this must be able to work somehow,
I have not been able to get any help from Talus so if any kind soul could
please post a response I would appreciate it.
Thank you very much,
<exasperated, but I still like NEXTSTEP>
John Zollinger
ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ingham@i-pi.com (Kenneth Ingham)
Subject: cube dies with Error code 84 after a while
Message-ID: <D181qH.31C@swcp.com>
Sender: news@swcp.com
Organization: Southwest Cyberport
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 16:56:40 GMT
I have a 25MHz 040 cube with an odd problem.
After 1.5 to 24 hours of being up, the machine crashes. It fails to
reboot. If I cycle the power, it fails the self test with error code
84. It will not reboot (claims a bad checksum). It also won't boot
from the floppy/cd (claims the same thing).
According to the NeXT documentation, this is a problem in the magneto
optical. But I don't even have a MO drive!
A little over a week ago, I installed an additional 16MB 100ns memory.
It ran for a week or so with no problems. Since the problem does not
seem to be memory related, I do not believe that this is the cause.
I installed a new CPU board from Bell Atlantic. The problem still
occurred.
Has anybody seen a problem like this? Any ideas?
--
Kenneth Ingham WD5BBT Hummin' little Grumman N9646L
ingham@i-pi.com (NeXTMail OK) (505) 262-0602
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: igahir@poly.eecs.wsu.edu (Inderjit Gahir - EECS (EE501))
Subject: Re: ATI On Board Graphics
Message-ID: <D14oJ1.IpD@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Organization: Washington State University
References: <3d4j81$l5e@godot.cc.duq.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 21:18:37 GMT
In article <3d4j81$l5e@godot.cc.duq.edu>,
Jason Brown <brown@next.duq.edu> wrote:
>Perhaps the net-presence has some thoughts on this problem.
>
I was in the same situation as you. My AST with an on board graphics
card, with 2MB of vram, would only display 800x600. After weeks of
frustation, I found out the problem. I believe it is documented in the
NeXTanswers also. The problem is with that version of the RAMDAC chip.
Not all RAMDAC chips all you to go above 800x600 at the listed supported
resolutions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eike@ilink.de (Eike Dierks)
Subject: Need boot-eproms for black hardware that can boot off CD ROM
Message-ID: <D17y89.Iz1@ilink.de>
Sender: usenet@ilink.de
Organization: i.link Kommunikationssysteme GmbH, Berlin
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 15:40:56 GMT
Older Cubes and Stations can't boot off a CD ROM because their boot eprom
does not support this.
Does anyone know which eprom version is needed to enable booting off a CD
ROM ? Where can I get such an eprom or an image to burn it myself ?
Or is there any other way of booting off a CD-ROM (i.e. starting with a
floopy boot and then switch to CD-ROM ?
-- Eike
From: me@msfp99.gwdg.de (Timm Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting black from IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) ?
Date: 22 Dec 1994 03:49:20 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Message-ID: <3dat00$hd9@gwdu19.gwdg.de>
References: <3d9ps1$mcq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Keywords: 0662S12 Spitfire
Hello all,
first of all, you _can_ boot a black NeXT from a IBM 0662S12 (I am using
this configuration right now).
Apart from the standard things (proper termination, termpower) there are
two things to change:
- On startup, the 0662S12 negotiates synchronous mode with the initiator.
This is legal, but the NeXT driver does not like it.
You have to inhibit this by installing a SMD jumper on the drive's PCB.
Note: There is a corresponding mode page bit, but it merely shows the
jumper setting. It is not possible to change the setting by means of a
SCSI SELECT command.
- The disconnect feature is useful and correct for multiple SCSI devices
but it has to be preceded by a SAVE_DATA_POINTER command sent to the
initiator.
For the IBM 0662S12, this behaviour can be enabled by setting the ASDPE
bit (additional save data pointer enable) of the mode select page 0 (byte
3, bit 7).
If you know how to use scsitools, you can set this bit by issuing a sense
command (sense -tSCSI_ID -p0 > FILE) and changing the output line
-mp00 0003 31 b1 # 31 b1 80 31
--^^--
to
-mp00 0003 b1 b1 # 31 b1 80 31
--^^--
before reloading it with a select command (select -tSCSI_ID -f
FILE.PATCH).
BE SURE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. Your current boot device might dislike
receiving this command erroneously...
Perhaps one of the new SCSI apps handles this feature in a more
user-friendly way?
After this, Initialize... or BuildDisk should work.
good luck
Timm
In article <3d9ps1$mcq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
rencsok@via-annex2-14.cl.msu.edu (Randy Rencsok) writes:
# In article <1994Dec21.152047.9728@unifr.ch> schubiger_s@ufper6 writes:
# > In article <1994Dec14.072531.279@glocke.robin.de>,
frank@glocke.robin.de
# (Frank Thomas) writes:
# > >Hello,
# > >
# > >I can not boot from the IBM 0662-S12 (Spitfire) (SCSI-Id 0) if it is
# > >the only drive in my configuration. The boot monitor just repeats
these
# > >messages:
[...]
# > Hi Frank,
# >
# > a few month ago I took a close look to your problem. I found a "bug"
in
# the
# > IBM-firmware. So my opinion is, that the IBM Spitfire won't work at
all
# > together with a Black NS. The problem is that the IBM disk does
# automatically
# > disconnect after a certain amount of disk blocks is transfered. The NS
# > SCSI-Driver doesn't excpect this behavior and prints this odd messages
# you
# > received. Probably a new NS Version will fix your problem.
[...similar problems with maxtor related to synchronous mode...]
# The other thing is if you put this drive on the SCSI chain NOT
# as the boot device whether it works or not. My 660M set to
# syncronous would work, but gave one error at mount time on
# the console (something about rot delay set to 4ms rather than 0ms or
# the like). If it doesn't then the above solution probably won't work
# (but you can try anyway).
#
# Good luck and happy holidays,
# Randy
--
Timm Wetzel <twetzel1@gwdg.de>
Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Str"omungsforschung,
Bunsenstr. 10, D-37073 G"ottingen, Germany
From: mbartlet@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Malcolm Bartlett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ALPS Hard-drive
Date: 22 Dec 1994 14:12:16 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta
Message-ID: <3dc1g0$u4o@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Help. I have a ALPS 100 meg drive modle #DR311C901A
I need to know how to master and slave this drive. The place that
sold it to me does know.
Please email me at
mbartlet@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
Thanks
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From: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Subject: Re: Installing NS on a Pentium 100 Mhz Intel-made motherboard-- HELP!!!
Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login)
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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 1994 04:30:30 GMT
References: <3d2rl0$b5@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
In article <3d2rl0$b5@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>,
Richard Bullwinkle , Jr. <bully@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I'm getting a keyboard hangup while installing NS on an Intel motherboard.
> It is a Pentium 100 Mhz board,
>and I get an irretrievable lockup right after the NS installation displays
> Registering Keyboard0.
Well, check your BIOS to see if you have write-back caching enabled. If so,
DISable it!
Another one of those neat Pentium "features" (in some 90MHz and ALL 100MHz
chips) is that the write-back cache is "flawed" and should be disabled in
multi-threaded OSs like UNIX. The disabling of the write-back cache
effectively makes your chip run like it was a 66Mhz. Aren't you glad you
paid an extra couple hundred dollars for the speed and accuracy of an Intel
Pentuim chip?
Return it, and buy a Gecco or DEC Alpha...
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From: borow@enigma.seanet.com (Scott W. Borow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TALUS NCR for 3.3
Date: 22 Dec 1994 05:31:27 GMT
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA
Message-ID: <3db2vf$rk5@kaleka.seanet.com>
References: <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com>
In article <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com> steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
writes:
> We have received dozens of phone calls and emails over the past week,
now
> that 3.3 is shipping, asking us if our NCR driver is ready for 3.3.
This
> included a couple of callers who wanted assurances that the driver has
> been thoroughly beta tested.
[...]
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steve Sarich
> Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
> steve@talus.com
> Voice: 713-578-1434
> Fax: 713-578-1815
>
Has anyone else tried running the Talus NCR driver with 3.3?
I installed 3.3 this weekend on my XL560 and haven't had
problems yet running with the NCR53C810 device driver v1.01
rev074. Am I living dangerously? (A serious question)
Other 3.3 musings:
The 3.3 serial driver appears to work for my SLIP connection
at 57600, but I can't really say how well. I do get a lot of
"ttyscc0: receive error 2" messages and I haven't done any
performance testing to compare it with Mux yet.
Transys PNI 1.13 complains about pnicontrol: Unknown function
add-multicast
when starting, but appears to work ok for that
session, but if the connection goes down for any reason,
pnirun will not start properly until after a reboot.
I do have some cautions about using Upgrader.app to upgrade
to 3.3. The PostProcess script will fail with a if statement
syntax error if you try to load NeXTTex at upgrade time.
(Yes, I read the release addendum, but quickly forgot it when
I went to install). I also discovered if you reboot at this
point you will find yourself faced with the 3.3 full
installation program instead of your normal desktop (oops).
The solution, for me anyways, was to execute the last few
lines of the PostProcess script from single user. I also
discovered you can patch the PostProcess script so it doesn't
get the if statement error by changing the following:
from:
if ( -f ${newbom} ) then
to:
if ( -f"${newbom}" ) then
Well, I'm normally a lurker, but I'd thought I'd take a
chance and post a reply since someone may find this useful.
Feel free to confirm or deny any of the above.
--
Scott W. Borow
borow@enigma.seanet.com
From: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing NS on a Pentium 100 Mhz Intel-made motherboard-- HELP!!!
Date: 22 Dec 1994 05:54:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Dec21215438@golem.ps.uci.edu>
References: <3d2rl0$b5@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <D1736u.H5x@ns1.nodak.edu>
To: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
In-reply-to: cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu's message of Thu, 22 Dec 1994 04:30:30 GMT
In article <D1736u.H5x@ns1.nodak.edu> cdubuque@t-rex.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque) writes:
In article <3d2rl0$b5@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>,
Richard Bullwinkle , Jr. <bully@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I'm getting a keyboard hangup while installing NS on an Intel motherboard.
> It is a Pentium 100 Mhz board,
>and I get an irretrievable lockup right after the NS installation displays
> Registering Keyboard0.
Well, check your BIOS to see if you have write-back caching enabled. If so,
DISable it!
Another one of those neat Pentium "features" (in some 90MHz and ALL 100MHz
chips) is that the write-back cache is "flawed" and should be disabled in
multi-threaded OSs like UNIX. The disabling of the write-back cache
effectively makes your chip run like it was a 66Mhz. Aren't you glad you
paid an extra couple hundred dollars for the speed and accuracy of an Intel
Pentuim chip?
That was a problem _years_ ago. No 90 MHz Pentium shipped for a long
time has suffered from it and considering how much in lock-step 90 and
100 MHz Pentium production are I seriously doubt that any 100 MHz
shipped in recent memory has this problem. As the 100 MHz chips were
extremely rare when the write-back bug was still around, consider
yourself lucky -- you probably have a collectors treasure.
Not that there aren't configuration problems with PC systems, but they
are in my experience only very rarely related to the CPU or
motherboard. Video and SCSI cards are much more likely culprits.
Return it, and buy a Gecco or DEC Alpha...
Sure. If you want to pay more money for less choice and inferior
performance, go right ahead.
Carl Edman
From: jpatel@cerfnet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Matrox - address
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 94 21:01:48 PDT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <3dcpk8$tb@news.cerf.net>
References: <3d8otq$q7d@zippo.uwasa.fi>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Phone : 1 800 361 1408
1055 St. Regis Blvd, Dorval,
Quebec, Canada H9P 2T4
> : Hi,
>
> : I'm looking for the mailing address of Matrox. Can somebody give it to me?
> : They don't happen to have an e-mail address?
>
> : Filip
>
> If it is of any help, the BBS number for Matrox is 534-685-6008.
>
> Pete.
From: Leo Hourvitz <leo@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Daydream
Date: 21 Dec 1994 06:54:40 GMT
Organization: The opinions of no one but me!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3d8jfg$fgj@kadath.zeitgeist.net>
References: <3d5c7s$da5@news.service.uci.edu>
Subject: Daydream
From: Y. MOK, ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu
Date: 20 Dec 1994 01:32:44 GMT
In article <3d5c7s$da5@news.service.uci.edu> Y. MOK,
ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu writes:
>
>Does anyone know who is the U.S. distributor/dealer of
>Daydream ?
>
>Y. Mok
>
>ymok@corona.ps.uci.edu
I just got my copy a couple days ago. Since the answer on the U.S.
distributor
seemed kind of unclear, I justed got mine direct from Quix in Switzerland
(credit card order followed by FedEx shipment) after establishing contact
with them via FAX (011 41 41 348680). However, a U.S. source might be
cheaper, so try that first. Also, it does seem to take some patience to
get
working the way you want.
As far as how well it works, let it be noted this post is originating on
a NeXTstation mono running Macintosh System 7.5, Nuntius and hooked
up to the net via MacPPP and MacTCP! So far, it seems to be incredibly
compatible.
Leo
Leo Hourvitz
leo@netcom.com
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 for NS3.2
Date: 23 Dec 1994 00:08:57 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3dd4ep$ar8@news.onramp.net>
References: <3db6k3$7ad@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <3db6k3$7ad@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
writes:
>
> I just got an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card and I would like to use it with NS
> 3.2. Does anyone know if the NS3.3 driver for this card can be used
under
> NS3.2?
No, the 2940 driver for 3.3 requires the dedicated PCI bus driver which is
not available for 3.2.
--
Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering - Apache Digital
apache@onramp.net
DOS, Windows, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail
welcome.
this must be able to work
somehow,
> I have not been able to get any help from Talus so if any kind soul
could
> please post a response I would appreciate it.
First let me say I understand your frustration. The Talus driver is a
pain and I have almost given up on ever getting it to work well under
anything but the most basic configuration. Fortunately, there is a
solution to your specific problem. You need a copy of the old NCR driver
that does not require the PCI.config. (if you need a copy of this let me
know and I will NeXTmail it to you) Then boot your system using this old
driver eg. "Boot Drivers"="XXXXXX XXXXXX 53C810 XXXX" this will get your
system up and then you can go into the System.config/instance0.table and
edit the order of the installed drivers which will allow you to use the
new driver. Hard to beleive Talus released something so difficult to
install (impossible without the old driver at hand!) Try getting a DAT
drive or a scanner to work with this driver. Good luck! Steve, if you
can hire someone who knows how to write a driver, we won't have to make
these kinds of posts.
--
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apache@onramp.net
DOS, Windows, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail
welcome.
From: apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: TALUS NCR for 3.3
Date: 23 Dec 1994 00:25:58 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3dd5em$bge@news.onramp.net>
References: <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com>
In article <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com> steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
writes:
> We completely understand the seriousness of this problem and we're doing
> everything we can to update our NCR driver in record time. But please
> understand, however, that we aren't miracle workers and we won't ship a
> product that doesn't work.
Won't ship a product that doesn't work? So far Talus has not shipped a SCSI
driver that does work! Yes, the driver sometimes works with limited
functionality on some system configurations, but if this is what Steve means by
*working*, then we do not have much to look forward to with the new driver.
--
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DOS, Windows, Unix and NeXTSTEP PC's, sales and service. NeXTmail welcome.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: TALUS NCR for 3.3
Date: 23 Dec 1994 04:08:26 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3ddifq$dhj@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <3dd5em$bge@news.onramp.net>
apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope) writes:
> steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III) writes:
> > We completely understand the seriousness of this problem and
> > we're doing everything we can to update our NCR driver in record
> > time. But please understand, however, that we aren't miracle
> > workers and we won't ship a product that doesn't work.
>
> Won't ship a product that doesn't work? So far Talus has not
> shipped a SCSI driver that does work! Yes, the driver sometimes
> works with limited functionality on some system configurations,
> but if this is what Steve means by *working*, then we do not have
> much to look forward to with the new driver.
There are those who would argue that NeXT hasn't done any better
in the area of writing drivers. They've written more drivers,
obviously, but many of those only support "limited functionality"
of what the device or card is really capable of.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: vrgr@taz.ho.att.com (-V.RAO)
Subject: Installation problem
Message-ID: <D18zwE.49n@nntpa.cb.att.com>
Sender: news@nntpa.cb.att.com (Netnews Administration)
Organization: AT&T NSD, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 05:14:37 GMT
Hi,
Attempting for the first time to install NS on an Intel Box.
Everything went fine. Even got the installation successful
message. Can launch applications and all. But, keyboard seems
to have locked up. Does not matter what I type. Just doesn't do
anything.
The configuration:
Plato Motherboard Baby AT
Adaptec 1542CF
Sony 55S (?) CDROM
Logitech Mouse
Conner 1.05G HD
Mitsumi Keyboard
Diamond Stealth 64 pci
If anyone is going to suggest that I disable the cache
please let me know the what/how of how I can get to the point
where I can disable the cache. I don't know for a fact the cache
is enabled.
Also, would like to know how I can become root to add Diamond
Stealth Driver.
Your help is appreciated.
rao
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From: razor@net23.com (Razor)
Subject: WHERE IS DOTS?
Sender: news@news2.new-york.net (Network News)
Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 05:51:12 GMT
Message-ID: <D191LE.Bop@news2.new-york.net>
So where is DOTS? I have a cannon bjc-600e printer I want to use with
NS3.2/FIP, and blove@alembic.com ain't answering my mail? Anyone have any
info on where to find information and pricing/ordering for DOTS for NeXTSTEP?
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From: dima@skfgvc.pyatigorsk.su (Dmitry V Spiridonov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP! TL16C550AN chip's contact marking need!!!
Date: 23 Dec 1994 10:13:28 +0300
Organization: NorthCaucasian Branch of JSC "GVC Energetiky",Pyatigorsk,Russia
Message-ID: <3ddtao$gq5@harpy.skfgvc.pyatigorsk.su>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm ]
[ Author was Dmitry V Spiridonov ]
[ Posted on 23 Dec 1994 10:02:36 +0300 ]
Dear All!
What is the difference between buffered UART 16C550AN from 8250 ?
There is no DTR-signal to modem when 16C550AN plugged in MUX instead 8250.
Could You send me contacts marking of 16C550AN chip ?
Excuse me for bad English and thank You very much!
*********************************************************************
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With all regards, dima@skfgvc.pyatigorsk.su
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From: mgolden@fas.harvard.edu (Mitchell Golden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DSP Port on NeXTStation
Date: 23 Dec 1994 08:08:52 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Message-ID: <3de0ik$ckt@decaxp.harvard.edu>
Does the DSP port on the NeXTStation accept analog input? How do I get
the machine to digitize output from a stereo? What cable do I need to
connect the stereo to the DSP (ie what are the pinouts on the DSP socket)?
Thanks in advance...
From: sideris@euclid.eng.uci.edu (Athanasios Sideris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: INTEL Plato P5-90 work with IDE Drives?
Date: 23 Dec 1994 08:59:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <3de3h4$i98@news.service.uci.edu>
We have got an Intel Plato motherboard ROM 1.00.10.AX1 AMI BIOS (C)1992
P5-90 CPU
ATI MACH64 PCI Graphics card
Logitec bus mouse
Adaptec 1542B SCSI card
Quantum Lightenning 540MB IDE drive
NEC 510 triple speed CD-ROM Drive
We were trying to install NeXTStep 3.2.
Everything worked allright until it came to the point:
This may take a few minutes ...
Nextstepartition base = 92656 Nextstep partition size= 971712
Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot
Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot0
Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 #(it stays there for quite some time)
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
..
/private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 14336 offset 0: /prmangled entry
(it repeats the above 4 more times)
mode = 030700, inum = 47106, fs = /private/tmp/mnta
panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc
Panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
Kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
Waiting for remote debugger connection.
(Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
We tried to connect an IDE drive that already had NS 3.2 installed
and worked fine on a 486DX2-66, but it did not work when connected to
the Pentium. It had a system panic which seemed to show errors reading
/etc/mach_init
We tried connecting the IDE drive on either the enhaced IDE port or
the standard IDE port on the motherboard, and we also tried deturbo
mode in the bios setup, nothing worked.
We also tried to install nextstep to a 1.05GB HP SCSI drive with the
same 1542B card, it passed the above point and then the system tried to
reboot from the hard drive and wouldn't start. We figured out that this
was probably due to the lack of support for >1.GB SCSI drives by
the 1542B card (even with the NeXT 154x patched driver).
Any ideas will be appreciated. We really want to make it work.
From: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: DAT audio drivers for NS?
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 12:50:17 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Sender: m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
Message-ID: <941223125017.494AACUI.malc@white>
References: <D16IzF.BGq@info.uucp>
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> Hi. I'm currently pricing P90 systems in my quest for an Intel box
> to run NS on, and I'm interested in DAT tape backup units. I think
> that I read somewhere one time that there are actually audio drivers
> available under NS to allow you to use these drives to listen to
> audio DAT's. Is this true?
>
As far as I'm aware, though I'd be pleased to be told otherwise, DAT back-up
drives simply don't support audio format -- to record to DAT audio tape you
need an appropriate interface to a DAT *audio* player.
I *think*, and again please let me know if I'm mistaken, that the only way
you'll be able to interface between NEXTSTEP and a DAT *audio* player is
through an AES/EBU or S/PDIF interface.
This is achieved using NeXT hardware with the addition of a Singular Solutions
A/D 64x (such as we have), or a Stealth DAI2400.
For Intel you might be able to use one of the Turtle Beach DSP cards with
AES/EBU support in conjunction with MusicKit, but I haven't seen confirmation
that this will work.
A generic solution which would work with just about any platform is the Ariel
DATlink, which is a wonderful piece of equipment basically turning your DAT
player into what your computer thinks is a SCSI drive (so also works with Sun,
HP etc). Costs around $3000, though.
I don't *think* any of these solutions will do what you actually want, though,
namely allowing you to listen to the DAT through the computer.
Have fun,
mmalc.
From: aleks@fidelio.dke.univie.ac.at (Aleksandar Vestica)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: ISDN
Date: 23 Dec 1994 13:25:03 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dej3f$obk@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>
References: <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>
In article <3c2u61$ist@news.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>, root@moses (Operator) writes:
|> >Well, actually a few manufacturers I know of have considered but then
|> >abandoned providing a NeXT driver.
|>
|> Ich habe auf der Messe letzte Woche mit einem Entwickler von Miro
|> ueber das Thema Treiber fuer NSI gesprochen. Er bestaetigte mir, dass
|> eine Entwicklung im Bereich des moeglichen waere, nur bisher noch
|> keine Anfragen bestehen wuerden.
|>
|> Also schreibt mal eure Meinung (Er liest diese group).
|>
|> Gruss
|> Markus
Allein hier in Oesterreich gibt es mind. 50 Leute, die an einer NeXT Loesung
auf Intel (oder SPARC) Interesse haben !!!
Ich hoffe, es gibt bezueglich der Software fuer die MIRO ISDN Karten bald was neues ...
Frohe Weihnachten.
Greetings, Aleksandar Vestica
^_^
(o o) Systemsadministrator and Softwaredeveloper
+---------------oO0--(_)--0Oo-------------------------------------------------+
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e Dept. of Knowledge Engineering e
X X
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From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Anyone seen this?
Date: 23 Dec 1994 15:44:59 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <3der9r$qlu@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
After replacing my SCSI driver, NEXTSTEP asks me during boot:
"When you begain installing NEXTSTEP, you used a driver ..."
And prompts me for a floppy disk with the SCSI driver on it. If I don't do
this, the machine will not boot, even though the SCSI driver was installed
on the hard disk, and set up using Configure.app. This is the second time
this has happened to me, and I can't figure out why. I've checked all the
tables by hand, and I don't see anything obvious that would force the boot
process to prompt me to insert a floppy disk with my SCSI driver on it.
Does anyone have an idea where to look? It's kind of silly for me to have
to keep a floppy disk around in order to boot.
(Please respond via email)
Thanks,
- darcy
--
"Don't you know that when dogs are hunted by the evil meat companies that lots
of innocent dolphins get caught in their nets?" 'Sea mammals! Who needs 'em.
This country would be better off without them. We should take all the sea
mammals, put them all in a boat, drive it out into the ocean and sink it.'
From: aeg@hobbes.crc.com (Tony Glover HSV)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic BT-946C
Date: 23 Dec 1994 10:45:35 -0500
Organization: Coleman Research Corporation
Message-ID: <3derav$99a@hobbes.crc.com>
References: <3da9ke$1jm@hobbes.crc.com>
Tony Glover HSV (aeg@hobbes.crc.com) wrote:
: Does anyone have a BT-946C that they are trying to get working with
: NS 3.3. I am having trouble trying to load NS. I get a configSpace
: error. Does that ring a bell for anyone?
Just thought I would keep everyone informed of my
ongoing saga to get NS running on my Micron P90 PCI
system just in case someone else is having the same
problem. Apparently NeXT forgot to mention or has
just realized that their 3.3 BusLogic driver will not
work with Revs A&B of the BT-946C controller card.
If you have a BT-946C look on the card for a Rev
letter (mine had a big A unfortunately) or look
at one of the larger ICs for the number BA80C28 or
BA80C30. If your number ends in 28 it's a rev A; if
it ends in 30 its a rev C (according to BusLogic
there was actually no rev B released). The good
news is that I called BusLogic and they were VERY
cooperative and nice about replacing my rev A with
a rev C card. If you have a rev A card and are
having trouble loading NS you can talk to Rick (dont
know his last name) in RMAs (404-492-9090) about
getting a replacement card. I am currently in a
holding pattern until I get the rev C card.
Hopefull my Christmas dreams will come true and
NS will be running on my machine early next week.
Merry Christmas
Tony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: giri@media.mit.edu (Giri Iyengar)
Subject: Pentium /90 Mhz and NeXTSTEP (Newbie question)
Message-ID: <1994Dec23.204600.9450@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 20:46:00 GMT
Probably FAQ category but forgive me!.
I am planning to buy a Gateway2000 P5-90 (family version) and want to
run NeXTSTEP on it.
P5/90 comes with the following:
1GB IDE hard disk.
PCI enhanced IDE interface
STB Lightspeed (2MB) graphics adapter on PCI local bus.
16MB RAM
What should I strip and what should I get instead ?
Is the 1GB IDE bus OK ?
What about the VRAM ? WHich one ?
What about SCSI ?
Can anyone who has NeXTSTEP running on their Gateway P5/90 send me info about
their configuration ?
Thanks,
-giri
From: Eli Goldberg <eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Power Question
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 17:28:28 -0500
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <EiyowAy00iVGI2qFJk@andrew.cmu.edu>
Hey, all ---
I'm trying to get an accurate estimate of how many kilowatts a
monochrome NeXT Cube (w/a 68040 motherboard), monochrome MegaPixel
display, and NeXT laser printer would consume, assume that they're left
on 24 hours a day. (long story)
Please E-mail responses. Thanks!
Any text in this message that was written by me is (C) 1994 Eli Goldberg:
Unauthorized Distribution or Forwarding Prohibited.
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DSP Port on NeXTStation
Date: 23 Dec 1994 21:03:25 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <3dfdut$lc@rosie.next.com>
References: <3de0ik$ckt@decaxp.harvard.edu>
In article <3de0ik$ckt@decaxp.harvard.edu> mgolden@fas.harvard.edu
(Mitchell Golden) writes:
> Does the DSP port on the NeXTStation accept analog input? How do I get
> the machine to digitize output from a stereo? What cable do I need to
> connect the stereo to the DSP (ie what are the pinouts on the DSP
socket)?
>
> Thanks in advance...
It's strictly digital. The connector is a D15 with the pinout:
8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
15 14 13 12 11 10 9
1 SCK
2 SRD
3 STD
4 SCLK
5 RXD
6 TXD
7 +12 VDC; 500 ma max
8 -12 VDC; 100 ma max
9 GND
10 GND
11 GND
12 SC2
13 SC1
14 SC0
15 GND
(None of this means much unless you are a 56001 hacker)
--
I don't speak for NeXT, and NeXT doesn't speak for me. Fair deal...
mpaque@NeXT.COM NeXT business only NeXT Mail OK
mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII Mail only, please
"Hacking fine code for over 20 years."
From: shishado@aol.com (SHISHADO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: will a NeXT Monitor work on a Mac (does anyone know)
Date: 23 Dec 1994 16:13:17 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <3dfehd$9fk@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
A 17" Color or 21" COlor monitor will it work on a mac (onboard video)
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium /90 Mhz and NeXTSTEP (Newbie question)
Date: 23 Dec 1994 23:02:33 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dfku9$pj@rosie.next.com>
References: <1994Dec23.204600.9450@news.media.mit.edu>
In article <1994Dec23.204600.9450@news.media.mit.edu> giri@media.mit.edu (Giri
Iyengar) writes:
| Probably FAQ category but forgive me!.
|
| I am planning to buy a Gateway2000 P5-90 (family version) and want to
| run NeXTSTEP on it.
|
| P5/90 comes with the following:
| 1GB IDE hard disk.
| PCI enhanced IDE interface
| STB Lightspeed (2MB) graphics adapter on PCI local bus.
| 16MB RAM
|
You should get a copy of NA 1650 for IDE disk issues. It is not possible to use
any disk larger than 504 MB with 3.2 (though there are some workarounds).
You can use the 1GB IDE disk with 3.3 if your BIOS supports this disk.
-Rakesh
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: INTEL Plato P5-90 work with IDE Drives?
Date: 23 Dec 1994 23:10:30 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dfld6$pn@rosie.next.com>
References: <3de3h4$i98@news.service.uci.edu>
In article <3de3h4$i98@news.service.uci.edu> sideris@euclid.eng.uci.edu
(Athanasios Sideris) writes:
| We have got an Intel Plato motherboard ROM 1.00.10.AX1 AMI BIOS (C)1992
| P5-90 CPU
| ATI MACH64 PCI Graphics card
| Logitec bus mouse
| Adaptec 1542B SCSI card
| Quantum Lightenning 540MB IDE drive
| NEC 510 triple speed CD-ROM Drive
|
| We were trying to install NeXTStep 3.2.
| Everything worked allright until it came to the point:
|
| This may take a few minutes ...
| Nextstepartition base = 92656 Nextstep partition size= 971712
| Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot
| Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot0
| Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 #(it stays there for quite some time)
|
| 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
| ..
|
| /private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 14336 offset 0: /prmangled entry
| (it repeats the above 4 more times)
| mode = 030700, inum = 47106, fs = /private/tmp/mnta
| panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc
| Panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993;
| root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
|
| Kernel panic exception (6,3,1)
| Waiting for remote debugger connection.
| (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot)
|
| We tried to connect an IDE drive that already had NS 3.2 installed
| and worked fine on a 486DX2-66, but it did not work when connected to
| the Pentium. It had a system panic which seemed to show errors reading
| /etc/mach_init
|
|
| We tried connecting the IDE drive on either the enhaced IDE port or
| the standard IDE port on the motherboard, and we also tried deturbo
| mode in the bios setup, nothing worked.
|
|
| Any ideas will be appreciated. We really want to make it work.
Let me try to explain why the same IDE disk works in one system and does not work
in another. The BIOS's in two systems are showing up different geometries. You
can probably check this out in BIOS setup for the machines.
Release 3.2 IDE driver can not deal with systems that report cylinders > 1024 or
heads > 16 for an IDE disk. I suggest that you change the BIOS reported geometry
on the Pentium system to whatever is reported by the 486DX2-66 systems.
This problem is fixed in 3.3.
-Rakesh
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing NS on a Pentium 100 Mhz Intel-made motherboard-- HELP!!!
Date: 24 Dec 1994 03:38:23 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dg53f$9t@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <CEDMAN.94Dec21215438@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.94Dec21215438@golem.ps.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu
(Carl Edman) writes:
> Return it, and buy a Gecco or DEC Alpha...
>
> Sure. If you want to pay more money for less choice and inferior
> performance, go right ahead.
Then again, at least the divides are correct past a few digits.
<snicker>
Sorry folks, I couldn't resist ;-)
--
Nathan Janette
Systems Manager, Axel T. Br nger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Voice: 203 432 5065
Fax: 203 432 3923
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.com (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: TALUS NCR for 3.3
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <3dd5em$bge@news.onramp.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 1994 00:05:22 +0000
Message-ID: <1994Dec24.000522.7581@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <3dd5em$bge@news.onramp.net> apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
writes:
> Won't ship a product that doesn't work? So far Talus has not shipped a
SCSI
> driver that does work! Yes, the driver sometimes works with limited
> functionality on some system configurations, but if this is what Steve
means by
> *working*, then we do not have much to look forward to with the new
driver.
This is frankly ridiculous. The Talus NCR driver works, period. If you
want to scream about it not supporting fast SCSI II, or not working with
certain drives, then take it up with NeXT, Microsoft, and everyone else
who writes device drivers; they all have the same range of problems. And
failing that, why don't you write a device driver for a popular hardware
item and try to sell it?
Paul
--
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.com
Tel: (01494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (01494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: robert@steffi.dircon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Is the 13W3 on a NeXT the same as a Sun?
Date: 24 Dec 1994 11:50:43 GMT
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Dec24115043@steffi.dircon.co.uk>
I seem to remember reading that NeXT uses the same video interface to
Sun SPARC?
I've got the NeXT supplied 13W3 to BNC (ie. 3 BNC leads) and I've also
got (thanks to Captain) the one made by that crowd in New Jersey. (As
mentioned in the FAQ) What I'd like to know is wether the 4 wires on
this one are sufficient to adapt the Sun 13W3 to BNC? I've got an Eizo
T560i-t (You guys see this as the Nano) with 4 BNC inputs. ie. separate Sync.
--
"Oh no, actually darling I don't have time for games."
(PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key)
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From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WHERE IS DOTS?
Date: 23 Dec 1994 12:40:24 GMT
Organization: multiversum media lab gmbh
Message-ID: <3degfo$qo4@multiversum.multiversum.com>
References: <D191LE.Bop@news2.new-york.net>
In article <D191LE.Bop@news2.new-york.net> razor@net23.com (Razor) writes:
> So where is DOTS? I have a cannon bjc-600e printer I want to use with
> NS3.2/FIP, and blove@alembic.com ain't answering my mail? Anyone have any
> info on where to find information and pricing/ordering for DOTS for NeXTSTEP?
>
Ask federico@heinz.com. He's the creator :-)
Atze
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: WANTED: EOF/Sybase Developer - Financial Engineer
Date: 24 Dec 1994 15:43:24 GMT
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <3dhfis$do6@news.worldlink.com>
We are a financial engineering upstart interested in
programming/development services on a consultancy/part-time basis
potentially leading to full-time employment.
The core development skills we seek are:
----------------------------------------
NeXTstep v3.2 (Intel & HP) EOF
Objective C
C/C++
Sybase SQL Server (black or white hardware)
The optional development skills we seek are:
--------------------------------------------
HP/PA-RISC
Microsoft SQL Server
Microsoft NT
Microsoft Access
We do not have a geographical preference. Our concept of
corporation does not necessarily include walls; therefore, we are
open to arrangements from anywhere in the world.
Please send your resume/curriculum vitae to p00378@psilink.com.
NeXTMail welcome.
Happy Holidays from GCC!
From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DSP modem on Black
Date: 24 Dec 1994 17:33:29 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <3dhm19$7pg@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <3d7v41$qbu@fermat.mayo.edu>
buckley@mayo.edu (Paul Buckley) writes:
>Some time back I saw a note about a German? company which made a piece of
>hardware to attach to the DSP on the Black hardware and a piece of software
>to make it all work like a modem. Anybody have the details?
It's called mix, by i.link in Germany. It's apparently broken under
NS 3.3. I have mix, and the previous version was also broken when NS
3.2 was introduced, and I had a hell of a time trying to get i.link to
response to my update request.
I am now postponing my upgrade to NS 3.3 as mix won't work under it,
and I am seriously considering switching to a regular faxmodem and
byuing the NXFAX software (nxfax@bandw.com (800) 496-8500 or (802)
496-8500) which I understand is an excellent product.
Heikki Ketola
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: NS/FIP 3.3 video driver bug?
Message-ID: <1994Dec29.004350.10508@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 00:43:50 GMT
I'm running a Diamond Stealth 64 2Mb VRAM video display card on a
P90/PCI/EISA system, and am having problems with the 1152 x 864 @ 75Hz,
16-bit color display mode (other resolutions, higher & lower, are okay).
Upon boot, the video card responds with id 0x88d15333, whereas, for some
reason, Configure.app presupposes an id of 0x88d05333; I had to manually edit
Instance0.table to get anything going at all, however I suspect this might be
a mere bandaid on a smoldering volcano: This might be an indication that the
NeXT-supplied driver is not intended to work with this version of the Diamond
Stealth card?
I can only guess that the NeXT driver is looking for a device id of 0x88D0,
whereas the video card I have installed responds with a device id of 0x88D1
(perhaps indicating a higher rev level of the card?). After editing, it does
finally come up, but not at 1152x864 (which is as close as one can get to
NeXT's original 1120x832 resolution):
Dec 28 10:56:21 mach: Found PCI device: ID=0x88d15333 at Dev=6 Func=0 Bus=0
Dec 28 10:56:21 mach: Display0: vendorID=5333 deviceID=88d1
Any insights will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
--
Mark Tarbell ( Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com )
Senior Systems Design Engineer
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@zion.com
Subject: NEXTSTEP on portables...info seeking
Message-ID: <D1K1xJ.3EG@zion.com>
Keywords: portable
Sender: david@zion.com (David J. Ferrero)
Organization: Zion Software & Consulting
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 04:32:07 GMT
I'm interested in hearing from anyone currently using NEXTSTEP on a
portable computer.
I'm currently contemplating such a system, but want to know your
experiences first hand!
I'd like to know the following if possible:
A) Make & Model of Portable?
B) Additional peripherals?
C1) Special Drivers used, and config settings?
C2) Installation steps, tips, troubles?
C3) Version of NEXTSTEP installed?
D) Performance relative to what you've used before?
E) What type of work do you use it for?
(business, word processing, programming, email)?
F) Where & When you bought it?
G) How much you paid?
H) Satisfaction?
Thanks for all replies.
David Ferrero
email: david@zion.com
From: thompson@ccnet.com (Eric Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 3.3 Video VERY VERY slow
Date: 28 Dec 1994 23:09:11 -0800
Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Laboratories
Message-ID: <3dtnan$482@ccnet3.ccnet.com>
References: <schwettD1CLut.Hyq@netcom.com>
Keywords: video 3.3 #9 slow damn
I just posted that on my non-PCI Intel GX Pro with integrated ATI
card, there was no video performance difference between 3.2 and 3.3.
All the other benchmarks came thru the same as well (non-SCSI).
Darcy thinks it's related to PCI and I would tend to agree. I may
have an opportunity to install 3.2/3.3 on a homebrewed P90 PCI system,
and can post more about it in a few days.
Eric
<schwett@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>I'm not very happy, mainly because the video is really really slow.
>
[deleted]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gsmiller@netcom.com (Shane Miller)
Subject: needed: drivers for HP pentium XU series
Message-ID: <gsmillerD1K9zJ.Gnq@netcom.com>
Keywords: driver pentium HP
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 07:26:07 GMT
hey, can I get the drivers for the scsi-ii controller, s3-864, and
the ethernet (all built-in on the system board) for HP's XU 5/90
pc?
right now I see only b/w and must use an isa scsi-i controller.
not good ...
----
gsmiller@netcom.com
the natural enemies of programmers are: special cases
From: noesis!murshid@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: compatible notebooks with NS 3.3
Date: 29 Dec 1994 08:45:39 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dtsvj$fmp@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: notebooks
is there a list of compatible notebooks that will run 8-bit color video
under NS 3.3
thank you
Murshid
From: noesis!murshid@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.3 on Packard Bell 100MZ Pentium
Date: 29 Dec 1994 10:23:56 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3du2ns$l13@news.cerf.net>
Will NS 3.3 install on the Packard Bell 100MZ Pentium as is right out of
the box? Does anyone have experience with this?
Thank you,
Murshid
From: noesis!murshid@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: List of laptops compatable with NS 3.3
Date: 29 Dec 1994 10:28:39 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3du30n$lbe@news.cerf.net>
Is there a list of laptops compatable with NS 3.3 that will run in 8-bit
color?
murshid
From: nstuyt@bnr.ca (Nick Stuyt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Netserver Series LC/LF/LM and NEXTSTEP
Date: 29 Dec 1994 15:50:51 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dulsr$4pn@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca>
Originator: nstuyt@bmerhd2a
Hello all,
Has anyone got NEXTSTEP running on one of these machines.
I like the boxes and would like to run NEXTSTEP on one of these.
Would there be complications with integration such as video processors, etc.
I guess that would be an issue for any main board that has integrated chips.
I think this is a special case however because these machines have a biased
backplane. The backplane occupies a processor board in which has the 80486 or
greater processor. I'm curious to see however if other boards are available
with processors other than Intel's 80x86 line.
The PowerPC would be nice.
Anyhow, if anybody has got this OS running on one of these machines I
would like to know.
Thx
Nick Stuyt
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Elsa 8meg card. Where can I order one of these from?
Date: 29 Dec 1994 15:26:19 -0500
Organization: Rutgers University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dv61b$s0v@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Im interested in getting this card. I was hoping that someone on the net had a
good experience getting this card from some distributor and would fill us all
in.
I believe the retail on it is $1699
Thanks, Later, John
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Elsa 8meg card. Where can I order one of these from?
Date: 29 Dec 1994 21:04:17 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3dv88h$8ib@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3dv61b$s0v@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: Im interested in getting this card. I was hoping that someone on the net had a
: good experience getting this card from some distributor and would fill us all
: in.
: I believe the retail on it is $1699
: Thanks, Later, John
I have one coming...won't ship from there to here until January 2...
email me after that time and we'll get you pricing.
Dave Briggman
From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus NCR install woes...HELP!
Date: 23 Dec 1994 19:10:01 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Message-ID: <3df7a9$4kt@news.blkbox.com>
References: <1994Dec22.095211.35908@cc.usu.edu>
In article <1994Dec22.095211.35908@cc.usu.edu> sldq1@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Seasons greetings everyone,
>
> I just received my NCR825/Fast-Wide Fujitsu/Talus NCR driver bundle (and
> besides the fact that they sent me the wrong cable) I can't get the damn
thing
> to install NEXTSTEP 3.2.
Yes, the card vendor shipped us the wrong cable and it was our fault we
didn't check it before it was sent out. The correct cable was shipped as
soon as our supplier provided us with the correct cable.
We did respond to your request for help, but the email bounced and I've
resent it to the address in your posting.
Steve Sarich
From: golden@harpo.harvard.edu (Mitchell Golden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DSP Port on NeXTStation
Date: 29 Dec 1994 21:13:19 GMT
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University
Message-ID: <3dv8pf$rds@necco.harvard.edu>
References: <3de0ik$ckt@decaxp.harvard.edu> <3dfdut$lc@rosie.next.com>
Mike Paquette (mpaque@next.com) wrote:
: In article <3de0ik$ckt@decaxp.harvard.edu> mgolden@fas.harvard.edu
: (Mitchell Golden) writes:
: > Does the DSP port on the NeXTStation accept analog input? How do I get
: > the machine to digitize output from a stereo? What cable do I need to
: > connect the stereo to the DSP (ie what are the pinouts on the DSP
: socket)?
: >
: > Thanks in advance...
: It's strictly digital. The connector is a D15 with the pinout:
Thanks to those who replied. Now here's a question. Clearly there
is an A/D converter inside the NeXT somewhere, because that's where
the mic input goes. Does anyone know its parameters? Why doesn't
NeXT provide an input to it for a stereo or other device, only a
mic?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jak@phoenix (John A. Kassebaum)
Subject: Can NS3.3 Utilize Multiple Processors
Message-ID: <D1L6pL.DnL@indy.net>
Keywords: NS3.3 MP
Sender: usenet@indy.net
Organization: IndyNet - Indianapolis Internet Gateway
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 19:12:56 GMT
Can NeXTStep utilize multiple processors.
I have used Sun sparc MP systems with up to 4 processors and been quite
happy with the results. With the appearance of Pentium MP systems (with
2-4 processors), I wonder whether Next's MACH OS can utilize them?
Please send responses to me, and I will summarize to the this newsgroup
for brevity.
Many Thanks!
-John
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From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does NEXTSTEP require SCSI?
Date: 29 Dec 1994 13:12:14 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3dv8ne$5pm@samsara.circus.com>
References: <D1Hy8L.EFs@info.uucp> <3ds9le$iem@panix.com>
In article <3ds9le$iem@panix.com>, Alec H. Peterson <chuckie@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <D1Hy8L.EFs@info.uucp>, Phil Martin u <mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca> wrote:
>>I used to think that NS does not support non-SCSI storage devices, but
>>lately I've seen a few posts regarding NS on those new EIDE hard drives.
>>Can NS boot from an IDE (enhanced or otherwise) drive? Would using EIDE
>>instead of SCSI mean much of a performance hit? I believe that the xfer
>>rate of the EIDE drives rival that of SCSI drives, but are they suitable
>>for use in a multi-tasking environment?
>I don't know about performance, as I only use SCSI devices, but I am
>certain that NSFIP will support [E]IDE devices.
Agreemsg.
>>Also, if SCSI is not required for hard drives, how about CDROMs? It seems
>>that a lot of systems are sold with non-SCSI CDROMs (that use the Sony-
>>compatible controller or something), is it possible to install NS from
>>one of these drives, or must it be SCSI?
>SCSI _is_ required for installing NSFIP (or, should I say, a SCSI CD-ROM
>drive is required). You can install from a SCSI CD-ROM to an [E]IDE drive
>just fine. I don't know if NSFIP will support CDROM drives that are on
>IO busses other than SCSI...
It Will. As I understand, most of the IDE CDROM drives being shipped today
won't work, but the newer enhanced ones will, although I am not sure whether
this is with an existing driver or whether there will be a new driver for
this...
But, the main silly data point I have is that you can install NEXTSTEP without
SCSI and without a CDROM drive, if you've got other nextstep machines around
on a network; just set up a network install server, and install through your
ethernet card onto the IDE drive! I've done this and it works like a charm.
This is new for 3.3...
-Adam
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From: steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: TALUS NCR for 3.3
Date: 23 Dec 1994 19:40:33 GMT
Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <3df93h$4uo@news.blkbox.com>
References: <3dd5em$bge@news.onramp.net>
In article <3dd5em$bge@news.onramp.net> apache@onramp.net (Mark Wauchope)
writes:
> In article <3d6uq0$paj@news.blkbox.com> steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich
III)
> writes:
> > We completely understand the seriousness of this problem and we're
doing
> > everything we can to update our NCR driver in record time. But please
> > understand, however, that we aren't miracle workers and we won't ship
a
> > product that doesn't work.
>
> Won't ship a product that doesn't work? So far Talus has not shipped a
SCSI
> driver that does work! Yes, the driver sometimes works with limited
> functionality on some system configurations, but if this is what Steve
means by
> *working*, then we do not have much to look forward to with the new
driver.
It's probably more accurate to say that there are some configurations that
the driver _hasn't_ worked with. There are literally hundreds of people
using this driver without any problems at all. We've found problems with
less than 2% of the installs. That's not too bad considering that we had
reverse engineer a major portion of the code to get PCI-SCSI to work at
all with 3.2....which is something NeXT wasn't able to do and they have
the source code to work with.
We've done our best to deliver a product that works on as many systems as
possible, which required that we purchase a wide variety of hardware in
order to test the driver. We can't, for obvious reasons, purchase every
board with every bios, along with every tape device and every CD-ROM, to
test for 100% compatibility and we've never claimed 100% compatibility.
We're certainly hoping to have a much improved version of the driver now
that PCI is supported under 3.3. I still won't claim 100% compatibility
at that point. Nothing in life is that sure, besides death and taxes.
Your post was a little shrill. I'm sorry that the driver didn't work on
your machine, but your flame is overstated. If the driver doesn't work
for your configuration, simply use another card. To tell us that we should
hire programmers who know how to write drivers sounds a little too much
like Mike Dahmus :-)
Merry Christmas.....
Steve Sarich
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How is 8 bit color under 3.3/ faster?
Date: 29 Dec 1994 13:34:11 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3dva0j$5uh@samsara.circus.com>
References: <3ds1nh$30g@core.symnet.net>
In article <3ds1nh$30g@core.symnet.net>,
Dru Nelson <dnelson@core.symnet.net> wrote:
> Subject says it all?
The main way it's "faster" is that it uses a lot less video memory to display
each pixel... 8 bits as compared to 16 or 24, meaning that a given resolution
in 8 bit color as compared to 16 bit color will only use half as much memory.
This generally works out to mean that either your window server and display
driver will do operations more quickly, or that you're able to squeeze an
even higher resolution out of your video card without slowing things down
very much (if at all).
> Can we get a 2x or a magnitude in speed increase under 3.3??
I don't know; I haven't run any benchmarks, myself. It depends a lot on what
you want to speed up.
The difference between 8 and 16 bit color display is visibly noticeable at
lower/medium resolutions; you can see the dithering on some of the icons.
This doesn't stop me from setting my display at work to 1280x1024x8, which
makes people stop and stare and say, "wow, what resolution is that?!?",
I have tons of screen real estate this way, and performance is fine with
2mb video ram and 24mb "regular" ram.
> Dru
Hope this is of some help... maybe someone else will come along with more
technical details beyond my "it looks and feels good" response.
-Adam
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jbright@stimpy.carleton.ca (Jason Bright)
Subject: Re: DSP Port on NeXTStation
Message-ID: <D1LEzE.KB8@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <3dv8pf$rds@necco.harvard.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 22:11:38 GMT
In article <3dv8pf$rds@necco.harvard.edu> golden@harpo.harvard.edu
(Mitchell Golden) writes:
> Mike Paquette (mpaque@next.com) wrote:
> : In article <3de0ik$ckt@decaxp.harvard.edu> mgolden@fas.harvard.edu
> : (Mitchell Golden) writes:
> : > Does the DSP port on the NeXTStation accept analog input? How do I
get
> : > the machine to digitize output from a stereo? What cable do I need
to
> : > connect the stereo to the DSP (ie what are the pinouts on the DSP
> : socket)?
> : >
> : > Thanks in advance...
>
> : It's strictly digital. The connector is a D15 with the pinout:
>
> Thanks to those who replied. Now here's a question. Clearly there
> is an A/D converter inside the NeXT somewhere, because that's where
> the mic input goes. Does anyone know its parameters? Why doesn't
> NeXT provide an input to it for a stereo or other device, only a
> mic?
Because the A/D is only a 8khz CODEC (8 bit logarithmic (sp?) encoding).
Trust me....you wouldn't want to try to digitize anything but voice with
it...the quality would be horrible. You need an external A/D to digitize
at a higher rate/higher precision.
later
j
From: buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP 3.3 video driver bug?
Date: 29 Dec 1994 14:19:21 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Message-ID: <3dvcl9$68s@samsara.circus.com>
References: <1994Dec29.004350.10508@radical.com>
In article <1994Dec29.004350.10508@radical.com>,
Mark Tarbell <Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com> wrote:
>I'm running a Diamond Stealth 64 2Mb VRAM video display card on a
>P90/PCI/EISA system, and am having problems with the 1152 x 864 @ 75Hz,
>16-bit color display mode (other resolutions, higher & lower, are okay).
I'm sorry to hear this... Does changing the refresh rate (perhaps to 60Hz)
help, at all? It may very well be that this one mode is broken; when you
have a choice between shipping a driver on time with one or two broken
display modes (out of several dozen) versus shipping it later, the choice
may be obvious...
>Upon boot, the video card responds with id 0x88d15333, whereas, for some
>reason, Configure.app presupposes an id of 0x88d05333; I had to manually edit
>Instance0.table to get anything going at all, however I suspect this might be
>a mere bandaid on a smoldering volcano: This might be an indication that the
>NeXT-supplied driver is not intended to work with this version of the Diamond
>Stealth card?
I don't think it's a smouldering volcano; it's more of a "vendor changes
hardware id without giving advance notice" sort of volcano. The driver still
works (with the exception of that one mode), doesn't it?
>I can only guess that the NeXT driver is looking for a device id of 0x88D0,
>whereas the video card I have installed responds with a device id of 0x88D1
>(perhaps indicating a higher rev level of the card?). After editing, it does
>finally come up, but not at 1152x864 (which is as close as one can get to
>NeXT's original 1120x832 resolution):
Your guess is dead on target; apparently this was changed without notifying
NeXT (or, without notifying the people I know, anyhow), causing the driver to
break unless you toggle that 0 to a 1 in Configure.app...
>Dec 28 10:56:21 mach: Found PCI device: ID=0x88d15333 at Dev=6 Func=0 Bus=0
>Dec 28 10:56:21 mach: Display0: vendorID=5333 deviceID=88d1
>Any insights will be greatly appreciated!
>Thanks!
One more note: despite this little problem (with a workaround) in getting the
newer Diamond Stealth 64 PCI cards to work with NEXTSTEP, this card/driver is
still considered a really good deal by one of the people who *tests* NEXTSTEP
video drivers. :)
Hope this helps...
-Adam Beeman
>--
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>Senior Systems Design Engineer
>Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
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From: sldq1@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Talus NCR install woes...SOLVED
Message-ID: <1994Dec29.155533.36177@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 29 Dec 94 15:55:32 MDT
References: <1994Dec22.095211.35908@cc.usu.edu> <3df7a9$4kt@news.blkbox.com>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <3df7a9$4kt@news.blkbox.com>, steve@talus.com (Steve Sarich III) writes:
> In article <1994Dec22.095211.35908@cc.usu.edu> sldq1@cc.usu.edu writes:
>> Seasons greetings everyone,
>>
>> I just received my NCR825/Fast-Wide Fujitsu/Talus NCR driver bundle (and
>> besides the fact that they sent me the wrong cable) I can't get the damn
> thing
>> to install NEXTSTEP 3.2.
>
> Yes, the card vendor shipped us the wrong cable and it was our fault we
> didn't check it before it was sent out. The correct cable was shipped as
> soon as our supplier provided us with the correct cable.
>
> We did respond to your request for help, but the email bounced and I've
> resent it to the address in your posting.
>
> Steve Sarich
This is true ,I received my cable overnight once they came in. Thank you.
All I had to do to get it to work was to use 'config=Default'. Apparantly
NEXTSTEP is smart enough to re-load the drivers in the correct order this way.
Then I was able to get into the system and change the Instance0 table entry so
that the PCI driver would load first. Works like a charm now.
But...I am a seasoned NEXTSTEP user, and the driver's instructions could use a
good re-write so that a normal person can take advantage of them. That is
assuming of course that any normal people use NEXTSTEP. :-)
After all is said and done, the driver works and seems quite speedy. I am a
happy user. I could have bought something that NeXT already supports, but why
have a P90 with an isa SCSI controller? I will continue to buy drivers from a
third party until NeXT can start writing ones that work, and that support the
power hardware people are using.
Happy Holidays,
John Zollinger
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can NS3.3 Utilize Multiple Processors
Date: 30 Dec 1994 00:04:46 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <3dviqu$hcs@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <D1L6pL.DnL@indy.net>
In article <D1L6pL.DnL@indy.net> jak@phoenix (John A. Kassebaum) writes:
-> Can NeXTStep utilize multiple processors.
No.
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Repost: Cogent ethernet board info wanted
Date: 30 Dec 1994 15:43:59 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3e19rv$ksp@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3dsm09$en2@News1.mcs.com>
In article <3dsm09$en2@News1.mcs.com> xela@acm.org (Matt Bezark) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know where to get a Cogent ethernet board for
> a Compaq luggable 486? I've heard that they are very fast.
> If anyone has experience with one, please let me know.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
> xela@acm.org
OpenSource offers the complete line of NEXTSTEP-compatible EISA and PCI
Cogent cards. Please contact me for more information.
--
Dan Gamble OpenSource, Inc.
<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice needed: Graphics Acceleration
Date: 30 Dec 1994 15:49:13 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <3e1a5p$kus@potogold.rmii.com>
References: <3d9p53$q6b@newstand.syr.edu>
In article <3d9p53$q6b@newstand.syr.edu> wtzchen@mailbox.syr.edu (May)
writes:
> Hi:
>
> I plan to buy Graphics Acceleration for NS 3.3
> 16-bit 2MB PCI card is prefered.
> Could you give me some suggestion?
>
> how about #9GXE 64 ? Does any one use it for NS ?
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Happy Holiday!!
>
> May
The #9GXE is a good card, as are the Elsa, the miro, the Diamond, and the
ATI. All of these are NS-compatible and all are available from
OpenSource. Let me know if you'd like more information.
--
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<dan@opensource.com> THE Single Source for
(NeXTmail welcome) NEXTSTEP Solutions
1-800-TRY-OPEN
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How is 8 bit color under 3.3/ faster?
Date: 30 Dec 1994 16:19:26 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <3e1bue$h7m@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
References: <3ds1nh$30g@core.symnet.net> <3dva0j$5uh@samsara.circus.com>
In article <3dva0j$5uh@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam Deishu Beeman) writes:
>In article <3ds1nh$30g@core.symnet.net>,
>Dru Nelson <dnelson@core.symnet.net> wrote:
>
>> Subject says it all?
>
>The main way it's "faster" is that it uses a lot less video memory to display
>each pixel... 8 bits as compared to 16 or 24, meaning that a given resolution
>in 8 bit color as compared to 16 bit color will only use half as much memory.
>This generally works out to mean that either your window server and display
>driver will do operations more quickly, or that you're able to squeeze an
>even higher resolution out of your video card without slowing things down
>very much (if at all).
Actually, some things are faster in 32 bit color. Why? Dithering. There's
a bit of software stuff that has to go on when you're working in non-32bit
and if your video card supports 32 bit color, then you can actually see
some speedups (which may only be noticable in benchmark tests).
The single most user-sensitive operation is window dragging, or other
window manipulations, which rely on transferring chunks of memory out
to the video card. For this, 8 bit color is faster as the poster said,
because there's less stuff to transfer.
So, windows move noticably faster (unless...).
>> Can we get a 2x or a magnitude in speed increase under 3.3??
No, but you can get a 4x speed DECREASE. My tests indicate that a 90MHz
Pentium with a PCI graphics card drags windows in 8 bit color at
50% of the speed of a 66MHz Pentium with a PCI graphics card running
in 16bit color.
VLB cards do not seem to be affected. Since this bug appears to be
somewhere in the PCI bus support NeXT added to 3.3, I'm not sure what
this says about potential performance problems with SCSI (ie. sending
chunks of data through the PCI bus is sluggish for video, then what
about sending chunks of data through the PCI bus for SCSI?)
- darcy
--
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of innocent dolphins get caught in their nets?" 'Sea mammals! Who needs 'em.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: klein@math205.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (John R. Klein)
Subject: Seeking power supply for NeXTstation
Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator)
Message-ID: <D1Mrry.4B5@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 15:45:34 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Rechenzentrum
I am looking for a new, or second hand,
power supply for a NeXTstation----
Does anyone know how I can obtain one in Germany?
Does anyone have A list of distributors?
(I have a NeXTstation with a burned-out power supply.)
Thanx,
-john klein
PS: please reply to my e-mail address.
From: Horst_Lehner@bb.maus.de (Horst Lehner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 24bit colour under NS?
Message-ID: <199412300936.a61609@bb.maus.de>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 07:36:00 GMT
References: <D1HCqz.5xu@info.uucp>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Phil,
PM> 16bit isn't really enough (you're stuck with only 64 shades of gray,
right?)
I'm not sure if that's right. 16 bits gives you about 65000 different colors,
which are normally mapped automatically to the ones you need by the NeXTStep
operating system. It is not before more than the available colours are used up,
that the system starts dithering. So, if you open only grayscale documents, you
will probably end up having all the grays you need, without any dithering.
PM> While I'm sure that there are people who really need 4 gigacolours,
I really doubt that :-), because your (and my) eyes just cannot distinguish
that many colors on a monitor. As far as I know, 32-Bit-Graphics still uses
only 24 bits for the bare intensity information (8 bits each color, giving 16
Millions of colors), while the remaining 8 bits are usually used only by the
software as the transparency channel.
Greetings from Horst
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.com (Mark Tarbell)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP 3.3 video driver bug?
Message-ID: <1994Dec30.183401.3280@Radical.Com>
Sender: news@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <1994Dec29.004350.10508@Radical.Com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:34:01 GMT
In article <3dvcl9$68s@samsara.circus.com> buddha@samsara.circus.com (Adam
Deishu Beeman) wrote:
>One more note: despite this little problem (with a workaround) in getting
>the newer Diamond Stealth 64 PCI cards to work with NEXTSTEP, this
>card/driver is still considered a really good deal by one of the people who
>*tests* NEXTSTEP video drivers. :)
Adam,
Thanks for your help! However, one `note' to your note: We have been getting
POOR video performance from the Diamond Stealth (albeit at 1024x768@75/16).
Here are some NWBenchmark specs. Note the display postscript performance
ranges from 2 to 3 times slower than for comparable black hardware:
Metric Pentium P90 NeXTstation Turbo Color
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dhrystones: 125,000 36,101
VAX MIPS: 79.365082 22.92127
Graphics: D-V: 36.608 sec 11.088 sec *****
V-V: 20.576 sec 10.640 sec *****
Ethernet KB/sec: 800.358611 682.391914
Disk read KB/sec: 3020.986078 1535.592662
Webster, sec: 29.597878 52.427361
Compile, sec: 45.196575 76.840164
I wonder how well the Diamond Stealth really works with the PCI bus?
Thanks again!
--
Mark Tarbell ( Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com )
Senior Systems Design Engineer
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting
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From: dnelson@core.symnet.net (Dru Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How is 8 bit color under 3.3/ faster?
Date: 30 Dec 1994 21:09:53 GMT
Organization: S y m N e t - North Florida Internet Access (info@symnet.net)
Message-ID: <3e1sv1$o9u@core.symnet.net>
References: <3ds1nh$30g@core.symnet.net> <3dva0j$5uh@samsara.circus.com> <3e1bue$h7m@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Thanks for those responses, but I want to hear about 3.3 8 bit color
providing yet another significant performance boost.
(Yes, I'm waiting to see how 3.3 pans before I get into it.)
Besides the mail, Mach 3.0, etc. I am interested in how well the 8
bit color comes along. It should be the fastest color mode if you aren't
changing colors.
Any real NXBench results?
Dru
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