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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI Message-ID: <1993Dec30.230127.15970@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <9312301618.AA03148@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 23:01:27 GMT Malcolm Crawford (M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote: : You might try contacting i-Link who were also planning to do a : 56k-based card: I've temporarily mislaid their contact details (:-(( ) : can anybody else help? And I've ever thought this card was already available. I have an early announcement from Alembic (Aug 93), the world distributor for MIX. MIX/Intel should be available bundled with an DSP56001 card. Their contact is: Tyler Janisch Alembic Systems International Ltd. 14 Inverness Dr. East G-228 Englewood CO 80112 (303) 799-6223 (303) 799-1709 800 452-7608 e-mail: info@alembic.com I remember a price of $800 for the card itself, but this could be totally wrong... Btw. the Turtle Beach MultiSound card (about the same price, I think) has also an DSP56001 on-board. : Have fun, With this card - no problem ... By the way - do you know the price of the DSP56001 (to have a rough dimension for this project) ? : mmalcolm. Gregor | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I use NeXT CD drive on Mac? Date: 30 Dec 1993 16:48:00 -0800 Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Message-ID: <2fvss0$1u6@nic.cerf.net> Can I use NeXT CD-ROM drive on Macintosh? (Shouldn't this question be in the FAQ? --- I checked, it's not there.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: NeXT Hardware documentation Message-ID: <espritCIvJ5y.9qu@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 00:39:34 GMT I have heard that NeXT is pretty strong about not revealing details about their hardware, but when was the last time that someone asked them? Despite Stross' claims that people only want the NeXT software, I really like the hardware and would like to fiddle with it more. What is their official stand at the moment on releasing the full specifications of the now-defunct hardware? -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) Subject: NEXTSTEP external video on portables Message-ID: <1993Dec31.020623.6514@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 02:06:23 GMT Hi All We all know from the NEXTSTEP Hardware Compatibility guide that no portable computer is capable of greater than 640x480 grey scale resolution when used with NEXTSTEP. My question is, are there any dockable portables with which you can disable the internal video, and use an ATI Ultra Pro or other graphics board when the machine is in the dock? Anybodey actually tried this with NEXTSTEP? --- Kenny Leung University of Alberta kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca Ph: 403-492-9343 Fax: 403-492-1729 |------------------------------------------------|\ | Ex-Ex-Ex-NeXT | "The best software company | \ | Campus Consultant | in the world." | \ |---------Marriage Made in Heaven----------------| \ | Silicon Graphics | "The best hardware company | \ NintendoSTEP! | Campus Consultant | in the world." | / |-----------Kids are on the way------------------| / | Super Nintendo | "Where the plumber gets | / | Owner | the princess." | / |------------------------------------------------|/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin) Subject: Re: Driver for NCR onboard SCSI (on PCI board) Message-ID: <1993Dec31.010226.942@talus.com> Sender: sam@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2fv16b$rd5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 01:02:26 GMT In article <2fv16b$rd5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes: | I am desperately seeking for an NS/FIP driver for the onboard SCSI controller | from NCR which is built into a lot of PCI motherboards (from ASUS, | EliteGroup, etc.). | | These boards are moderately priced and offer great performance, especially when | combined with a PCI graphics card. Support of the NCR SCSI controller would | make a cheap enough NeXT Color PC with good performance possible. | | I hope NCR support will happen soon ! Any rumors ? | -- | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is not a rumour. I'm developing a driver for NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI I/O Processor. It should be ultimately completed up to the last numbers of January 1994. Hardware I running it on is : DELL OmniPlex 566. As far as I know I'm the only who developing driver for NCR SCSI, especially for NCR PCI SCSI. At last I'm cooperate with NCR and they definetely not made their own drivers (for NeXTSTEP/FIP). So be aware of such a stuff. Also as far as I know NCR prepares a hot new line of PCI SCSI chips -- I dunno who'll write drivers for them. I can do it if there'll be any more orders. At last I see no technical obstacles to do so. As well as support for their 53C7xx line (53C700 53C710, 53C720) -- except for PCI auto-configuration these chips have a lot of similarities wit 53C810. All who interested in such stuff could ask NCR -- probably if they gather a lot of requests for such drivers they can ask someone (guess who :-) to do such stuff. From my side I can guarantee to inform people around if such order will appear. Only please don't ask me about who'll selling this drivers -- I'm just writing them ;^) The only thing I know is that DELL OmniPlex 566 will come with them. -- Semyon Sosin Talus Imaging Corp. - Houston Bureau <sam@talus.com> (NeXT mail accepted) ph: (713)561-0700 10602 Chapel Hill Dr. Houston Tx. 77099
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DPT 2021 ISA question Date: 28 Dec 1993 10:31:51 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2foue7$u6@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CIKJ41.F6L@percy.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) writes: >I just switched over from an Adaptec 1542cf to a DPT 2021 isa . I hope I >made the right choise.. At least I can access my whole 1.3 gig HD now.. >Anyways, what is the best setup for the card.. ie. dma speed etc.. I >noticed before I took out the 1542cf.. Diskperformance actually gave me a >better index value .8 as apossed to my new DPT 2021 at around .65 hmmmm. >What am I doing wrong.. Does adding the cache card make any noticable >difference.. I have 0.8 with the DPT 2021 and a Fujitsu 2624FA in an EISA/VL noname board with SIS chipset and AMI BIOS. For more information about the right settings, I recommend reading document #1473 from NeXTanswers. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 19:47:26 -0600 Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2966384608.2.p00378@psilink.com> In-Reply-To: <1993Oct5.153900.1274@abulafia.in-berlin.de> I have this same drive and I am very interested in performing the block size manipulation. Please direct all info for performing this to: <p00378@psilink.com>. Thanks. Peace. James >DATE: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 15:39:00 GMT >FROM: Volker Safran <volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de> > >In article <CEEyIu.GI6@pilhuhn.sub.org> jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen >Richter) writes: >> > A secondary matter is that you will end up with more disk space and >> > better performance if you alter the physical block size of the >> > filesystem to 1024 byte blocks rather than the standard size of 512 >> > bytes. This may be accomplishable through some obscure manipulation >> > with the program 'disk'. >> > >> >> How? >> > >I am interested in this, too. Please post the result. I know, how to do >this on Fujitsu Drives with the program "formatter" from the archives, >but we definetely had no success to set a DEC DSP3105 drive to >1024Bytes/sector. It is a loss of about 50MByte with this drive!!! > > CIAO Volker >-- >************************************************************ >* Volker Safran, FB20, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * >* EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * >* volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* >* safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * >************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? Message-ID: <westesCIvznn.DAM@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 06:35:47 GMT If you boot up a NeXT system and then want to add a SCSI device from the desktop, is there a way to do this? For example, you are not able to attach the tape drive because it is on another machine, but then it frees up and you want to bring it online under NeXT without taking down the UNIX box and restarting it. Is there any way to add a SCSI device after the system has booted? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI Message-ID: <CIvxM8.I86@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <9312301618.AA03148@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 05:51:43 GMT In article <9312301618.AA03148@dcs.shef.ac.uk> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk writes: >> Does anybody knows the specs of the DSP56001 on blackHW: >> memory organization (shared or separate between 68040 >> and 56001), interrupts, reset mechanism, DMA etc... This >> because tired of waiting for MaxAudio I would like to >> set up a project to build a card that duplicate the >> functionality of the original Black/HW on Intel. [munch] >> >Hey Fabien, that would be *excellent*! >I suspect it won't be *easy*, but I'd love you to have a go, as I'm >sure would many others. > >You might try contacting i-Link who were also planning to do a >56k-based card: I've temporarily mislaid their contact details (:-(( ) >can anybody else help? > >You could also try the NeXTSTEP Audio Standard list > <nas@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> >there are a number of people there who might be interested too. > >Have fun, > >mmalcolm. You could try asking Bill Southworth for his prototype design, since he seems to have given up the idea of building it. Hey! Maybe we can get a hardware equivalent of the Free Software Foundation going 8). david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI Message-ID: <CIvxwq.IJD@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <9312301618.AA03148@dcs.shef.ac.uk> <1993Dec30.230127.15970@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 05:58:01 GMT In article <1993Dec30.230127.15970@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: >Malcolm Crawford (M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote: >: You might try contacting i-Link who were also planning to do a >: 56k-based card: I've temporarily mislaid their contact details (:-(( ) >: can anybody else help? > >And I've ever thought this card was already available. I have an early >announcement from Alembic (Aug 93), the world distributor for MIX. >MIX/Intel should be available bundled with an DSP56001 card. Their contact is: Alembic promised to let me know as soon as they had any of the i-link cards. There is a problem with these cards: (a) they only offer an 8KHz sample rate; and (b) there does not seem to be a driver that emulates what was on the black hardware (i.e. that would allow apps developed on the black hardware to be recompiled and run on the white hardware. [munch] >With this card - no problem ... By the way - do you know the price of the >DSP56001 (to have a rough dimension for this project) ? > >: mmalcolm. > > Gregor > >| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | >| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | >| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | >| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | david ------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Driver for NCR onboard SCSI (on PCI board) Message-ID: <1993Dec31.133429.1033@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2fv16b$rd5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 13:34:29 GMT In article <2fv16b$rd5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes: > I am desperately seeking for an NS/FIP driver for the onboard SCSI controller > from NCR which is built into a lot of PCI motherboards (from ASUS, > EliteGroup, etc.). > > These boards are moderately priced and offer great performance, especially when > combined with a PCI graphics card. Support of the NCR SCSI controller would > make a cheap enough NeXT Color PC with good performance possible. > > I hope NCR support will happen soon ! Any rumors ? We'll have it done next week, but I'm not sure how soon it will filter through the bureacracy. Keep in touch and we'll get you a contact name and number at NCR. Steve Sarich III Talus Corporation Houston: steve@talus.com Moscow: steve@talus.msk.su
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Using "Black" HSD scanner with INTEL Message-ID: <1993Dec31.140753.1195@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <CIntxE.4K4@beach.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 14:07:53 GMT In article <CIntxE.4K4@beach.com> dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) writes: > In article <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu > (James Powell) writes: > > I have a Scan-X color scanner from HSD that was purchased about a > year ago. > > I would like to move this scanner from the Nextstation to which it > is currently > > attached to a 486 clone running Nextstep for Intel. Is this > possible? Is > > there a driver for this scanner available? Yes, Talus is now shipping an Intel version of our MaxScan software for the HSD, UMAX, Leaf, HP and, soon, the Epson line of scanners. The software for the HSD/UMAX runs $149. We also offer very competitive pricing on all of the scanner hardware as well (except HSD :-) If you have any questions please contact us at: Email: info@talus.com Phone: 713-561-0700 Fax: 713-561-5428 Sincerely, Steve Sarich III Talus Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: Booting an 030 without a monitor Message-ID: <1993Dec31.123425.12647@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <2fv80p$rk7@vesta.unm.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 12:34:25 GMT In article <2fv80p$rk7@vesta.unm.edu> onyxcat@unm.edu (The Onyx Kitten) writes: > I'm trying to boot an 030 board, without the MegaPixel. The 030 is in my > cube, and I have no other cube boards. > > I've tried sticking a 450 Ohm resistor between pins 6 (power switch) and > 13 (common ground) of the DB-19 monitor out. It "tries" to boot, > but won't (every 2 seconds you hear a 'click', but it doesn't get anywhere). > > I have a MexaPixel to plug into it, but if you pull the cord, the machine > powers down. NeXTStation 040 slabs handle this no prob., too bad 030's > don't. > > Also - I'm looking for pin out specifications for both the 96 pin Cube > NeXTBUS (I think NeXT part #N6010 is the docs for this), > and also the NeXTStation Power Inputs (the 12 wires > from the slab Sony PS). No one I've talked to seems to know this stuff... > > Anyone who can help me out will have a NeXT hardware hacker eternally > grateful to them ;-) - Thanks Netters... > > Cliff > onyxcat@unm.edu Hi Cliff, It seems that you have a old CUBE power supply which requires the load of the monitor to start regulate. Unless you simulate this load (on the -12v I think) with some power resistors there are no solution. Try a load of 10 Watts with 15 ohms 20 Watts ( may become hot!) on the -12v. --Fabien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: replacing small turbo drive with lager capac Date: 30 Dec 1993 16:59:12 GMT Organization: E&S Distribution: world Message-ID: <2fv1d0$qpp@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1993Dec28.220616.11965@scott.skidmore.edu> In article 11965@scott.skidmore.edu, root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator) writes: > We have a turbo color Nextstation. It has a smallish internal HD (200 meg > ?). I completed the NeXT repair course etc. so I know it's easy to swap > this HD in and out. My question is: can I now get a 400 or 600 or LARGER > HD that will fit into the same exact space inside the turbo color > station....and swap it for the smaller HD ? Where could I get such a > thing and what's the largest one I can get ? I've got a 1.0 GB Fujitsu, model # 2694ES-512, in my turbo mono station. It's plug-and-play. I see no reason why the turbo color station wouldn't also be. Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: MEMORY problems. Message-ID: <CIwuzJ.ICt@cc.umontreal.ca> Summary: darn NeXtstation SIMMS Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 17:52:30 GMT I have two simms for my NeXT cube which won't work in it, yet they are 30 pin, 100ns, 1 meg chips. When I try replacing two of the 8 normal SIMMS already inside, with these two simms, I get: Memory test failed: Bank 0 has mixed-mode SIMMS. Now, the two simms that are causing problems are: SAMSUNG KMM581000A-10 108 AG They were supposedly pulled out of a NeXTstation mono, and should work in my NeXT Cube. What's the problem? I'll explain a bit more clearly: I have 12 SIMMS, each one 1 meg, 30 pin, 100 nanoseconds, and a NeXTCube with v66 2.5 roms with 16 SIMM Slots. 8 Of the simms are the Toshiba 8 chip THM81000AS-10 that came with the machine. They are fine. Two of the chips are Toshiba 9 chip THM91000AS-10 and they work. I can run the computer with 8 megs with either the 8 Toshiba originals, or two of the 9-chip toshibas plus six 8-chip Toshibas. Fine.. But what I have left over are another two Toshiba 8-chips and two SAMSUNG ones. The SAMSUNG ones always give me Bank 2 has mixed-mode SIMMS. ..when I try to add another 4 megs in bank two using the left over chips. Are the SAMSUNG ones useless? Could "mixed-mode" mean they are not "Page mode simms" or perhaps they are 4 meg simms and I'm lucky to have them? Whew..... Thanks, and happy new year. odisseas -- <-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-> |o Long live o| | Odisseas Kosmatos email: kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca | |o NeXTstep! o| <-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-v-> "The force is used for knowledge and defense. Never for attack." --Yoda
From: NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: #9 GXE VL problems. Date: Sat, 01 Jan 94 02:28:30 GMT Organization: MOE Computer Center, Taiwan Message-ID: <16F3122CE.NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW> Is there anybody who has tried #9GXE-VL card on non-DEC PC? I tried every mode in 3.2 and only get snow picture. It seems that horizontal scan rate has some problem. The other strange question is the RAMDAC. Testing program comes with this card says it is using a Bt485, but the RAMDAC on this card is made by AT&T! Please mail me if you have succeed experience with this card. Thanks in advance. Phobos (ntclt019@twnmoe10.edu.tw)
From: tom@druid.bo.open.de (Thomas Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem initializing Toshiba MK537FB (FIP) Date: 31 Dec 1993 19:06:41 +0100 Organization: News at druid Message-ID: <tom.757361143@druid> I have problems using a Toshiba MK537FB with Nextstep FIP (Adaptec 1542B). Fdisk can partition the harddisk, but /usr/etc/disk fails with the following output : NeXTSTEP partition base = 1050624 NeXTSTEP partition size = 1024000 disk name: TOSHIBA MK537FB 6261 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> init DESTROYS ALL EXISTING DISK DATA -- really initialize? y enter host name: druid enter disk label: toshiba writing disk label Boot block is "/usr/standalone/i386/boot", ok? y ...r/w returned -1; expected 32768 Write of boot block 0 failed ...r/w returned -1; expected 32768 Write of boot block 1 failed No boot blocks on disk The drive works well with MSDOS .... any ideas ??? Thanx in advance, Tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) Subject: Re: NeXT Hardware documentation Message-ID: <CIw08A.BF2@pdh.com> Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account) Organization: PDH, Inc. References: <espritCIvJ5y.9qu@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 06:48:09 GMT Alan F. Perry writes > > I have heard that NeXT is pretty strong about not revealing > details about their hardware, but when was the last time that > someone asked them? How about two weeks ago? :-) My monitor repair guy was trying to fix my Fimi color monitor (and this isn't even one of their "crown jewels" so to speak, since it was built for them by Phillips) and he tried Phillips first. They acted like they didn't know what he was talking about (this is typical - Sony does the same thing when you call them up about so-called Sony videocamcorder clones by Ricoh, Nikon, etc.) Finally, they told him the monitor was built under contract to NeXT and only NeXT could give out the schematics. So he called NeXT and after getting the run-around for a day or so, finally found someone in Tech Support to at least answer his questions. They basically told him that NeXT would only sell schematics to "authorized repair centers" and at this time, the only authorized repair centers are Bell Atlantic's. He called Bell Atlantic and they refused to sell or fax the schematics. Without a schematic, he simply can't fix the monitor. Worse, he thinks it is about a $120 board repair job, but Bell Atlantic will only do a $400 board swap or monitor replacement. That's all folks. I will consign my Fimi to the junk heap unless someone wants to buy it for parts or to try and fix it themselves. Its a crappy monitor anyway :-) I am getting a Nanao or NEC. Happy new year! Jon Rosen
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? Date: 31 Dec 1993 21:04:18 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2g244i$jta@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <westesCIvznn.DAM@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes: > If you boot up a NeXT system and then want to add a SCSI device > from the desktop, is there a way to do this? For example, you > are not able to attach the tape drive because it is on another > machine, but then it frees up and you want to bring it online under > NeXT without taking down the UNIX box and restarting it. > > Is there any way to add a SCSI device after the system has booted? My experience has been: No. I haven't been able to add or remove a scsi device on a NeXT system that's already up and running. In fact, I can't even turn off a scsi device that's attached without generating (apparently) endless errors to /dev/console (and thus to /tmp/console.log, which means I'd eventually run out of disk space). I can somewhat understand not being able to add scsi devices on the fly, as that could require "renumbering" of the scsi devices (eg: /dev/rsd1h might need to move to /dev/rsd2h, depending on the SCSI id#'s of the devices involved), but it really annoys me that I can't just turn off a device and then turn it back on later when I need it. (particularly for mountable devices like CD-ROM drives and MO drives). This is true up to NS-3.2, as far as I know. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? Date: 31 Dec 1993 21:27:19 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2g25fn$ls6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2g244i$jta@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A. Drosehn writes > I can somewhat understand not being able to add scsi devices > on the fly, as that could require "renumbering" of the scsi > devices (eg: /dev/rsd1h might need to move to /dev/rsd2h, > depending on the SCSI id#'s of the devices involved), but it > really annoys me that I can't just turn off a device and then > turn it back on later when I need it. (particularly for mountable > devices like CD-ROM drives and MO drives). > > This is true up to NS-3.2, as far as I know. Isn't this true of all SCSI devices on all platforms? -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (Gary Kidd) Subject: Does the Uninet SLAT-1 work under NS 3.2? Message-ID: <CIx6x7.67L@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Keywords: serial port Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 22:10:19 GMT I'm getting ready to upgrade from NS 3.0 to NS 3.2 (black hardware) and I'd like to know whether my Uninet SLAT-1 serial port expander will work. If anyone out there has a SLAT-1 working under 3.2, or knows enough about it to tell me whether it will work (or what needs to be done to make it work) I'd appreciate hearing from you. Sincerely, Gary R. Kidd Department of Speech and Hearing Sciences Indiana University Bloomington, IN 47405 kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Re: MEMORY problems. Message-ID: <CIx7t6.Kp8@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <CIwuzJ.ICt@cc.umontreal.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1993 22:29:29 GMT Kosmatos Odisseas (kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA) wrote: : I have two simms for my NeXT cube which won't work in it, yet they are : 30 pin, 100ns, 1 meg chips. When I try replacing two of the 8 normal : SIMMS already inside, with these two simms, I get: : Memory test failed: : Bank 0 has mixed-mode SIMMS. [...] Ha! I just downloaded all of NeXTanswers and found the answer. It appears that there are 2 kinds of simms (as if already having to match number of pins, low/high profile, nanoseconds and parity or no parity was not enough) -- There are PAGE MODE simms and NIBBLE mode simms, and you can't mix 'em in the same bank of 4 on the NeXTcube... SO... Time to find myself 2 PAGE mode simms to trade for these NIBBLE mode simms.. And it definetely takes someone with a NeXTstation (which goes in banks of 2) Happy new year -- kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca "The force is used for knowledge and defense. Never for attack." --Yoda
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart) Subject: Re: NICE vs AMI motherboards Message-ID: <CIsALn.s2@pyrian.com> Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. 415-664-1170 References: <1993Dec29.023148.1317@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 06:41:47 GMT In article <1993Dec29.023148.1317@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) writes: > What's the difference??? Which one is best (what ever *that* means...) > for NEXTSTEP??? (Maybe I should say preferred instead of best?) > > > -- > --Mike \ Bones heal, > michael.cox@torreypinesca.ncr.com / and chicks dig scars... The NICE motherboards are still having floppy drive problems. NICE offers two different chip sets. If you use HiNT, you have problems. ihs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI Message-ID: <1994Jan1.053539.29407@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department References: <9312301618.AA03148@dcs.shef.ac.uk> <1993Dec30.230127.15970@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <CIvxwq.IJD@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 94 05:35:39 GMT In article <CIvxwq.IJD@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: >In article <1993Dec30.230127.15970@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: >>Malcolm Crawford (M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote: >>: You might try contacting i-Link who were also planning to do a >>: 56k-based card: I've temporarily mislaid their contact details (:-(( ) >>: can anybody else help? >> >>And I've ever thought this card was already available. I have an early >>announcement from Alembic (Aug 93), the world distributor for MIX. >>MIX/Intel should be available bundled with an DSP56001 card. Their contact is: > >Alembic promised to let me know as soon as they had any of the i-link cards. >There is a problem with these cards: (a) they only offer an 8KHz sample >rate; and (b) there does not seem to be a driver that emulates what was on >the black hardware (i.e. that would allow apps developed on the black >hardware to be recompiled and run on the white hardware. > >[munch] > >>With this card - no problem ... By the way - do you know the price of the >>DSP56001 (to have a rough dimension for this project) ? >> >>: mmalcolm. >> >> Gregor >> >>| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | >>| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | >>| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | >>| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | > >david >------- > >-- >david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more >voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. >nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein) Ariel Corporation in NJ has an entire line of DSP boards for PCs. These employ TI's TMS320C40, TMS320C30, and TMS320C25 DSP chips, AT&T DSP3210, DSP32C, Motorola DSP96002, DSP56001, and I think DSP56002. Prices range from the sublime to the ridiculous, however they have an entire line of development tools available for each and every board combination. They also have boards for HP 200/300 series, Sun SPARCstation and SBus-compatible, and Macintosh. These are the guys who created the QuintProcessor for Next using 5 27mHz 56001 on a single board (4 slave, 1 master) for $6,995. This is no longer in production. They also have a line of Next compatible AES/EBU and S/PDIF boxes with names like ProPort, DatPort, TelePort, and the original digital mike. The most obscene board for PC since I last heard from them is the Hydra with 4 TI TMS320C40 with 200 MFLOPS at 50 mHz and 1.1 BOPS (1.1 billion ops per sec). There is also a Cyclops with only 1 C40 running at 50 MFLOPS and .275 BOPS. Anyway, this is an old brochure I got this from, they probably have something bigger by now. Anyone looking to develop some hardware might want to call them and see what they think of NSI. They are at: Ariel Corporation 433 River Road Highland Park NJ 08904 (908) 249-2900 vox (908) 249-2123 fax ariel@ariel.com (908) 249-2124 DSP BBS Also FYI: Texas Instruments (713) 274-2323 BBS (713) 274-2320 voice DSP hotline Motorola (512) 891-DSP1 (300-1200 baud) BBS (512) 891-DSP2 (V.22 - 1200 baud) BBS (512) 891-DSP3 (V.22bis 2400 baud) BBS (800) 521-6274 DSP Design Hotline AT&T (201) 834-6068 BBS (201) 949-4263 BBS voice help Ariel BBS is very good. Hope some of this information is helpful towards a NSI DSP board. Charlie Dvorak
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI Date: 1 Jan 1994 00:23:44 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401010624.AA04915@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > The most obscene board for PC since I last heard from > them is the Hydra with 4 TI TMS320C40 with 200 MFLOPS at > 50 mHz and 1.1 BOPS (1.1 billion ops per sec). > Their literature says: "Comparing Hydra's computing power and data transfer capabilities to other 6U VMEbus cards is almost unfair." :-)) Now, if only there were a driver for that... :-) I feel somewhat ashamed that I forgot about Ariel -- I last contacted them in May. At that time they said that they did not have any plans for NEXT STEP 486 although "it seems to be a very nice Operating System." They did have a copy and were evaluating it, but I don't know what was the outcome of that. They also pointed out, however, that they do supply all the source code to their drivers for their DSP boards, so if anyone one would like to use one of their boards with the NS/FIP then they could use thier drivers as a template to do their own port. Now this sounds promising... Happy New Year! Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bugs@atlantis.uucp (Dan Berry) Subject: Re: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? Message-ID: <1994Jan1.063120.8985@atlantis.uucp> Organization: Atlantis Communications, Edmonton, AB, Canada References: <2g244i$jta@usenet.rpi.edu> <2g25fn$ls6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 1994 06:31:20 GMT Stefano Pagiola (spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu) wrote: >Garance A. Drosehn writes >> I can somewhat understand not being able to add scsi devices >> on the fly, as that could require "renumbering" of the scsi >> devices (eg: /dev/rsd1h might need to move to /dev/rsd2h, >> depending on the SCSI id#'s of the devices involved), but it >> really annoys me that I can't just turn off a device and then >> turn it back on later when I need it. (particularly for mountable >> devices like CD-ROM drives and MO drives). >> >> This is true up to NS-3.2, as far as I know. >Isn't this true of all SCSI devices on all platforms? More or less, yes. However, I've done crazier things in the past to my NeXTstation, namely: - issued a soft interrupt (ala COMMAND-~) - and thus immediately stopping EVERYTHING cold, especially disk access - switched off my main external HD and all attached SCSIs - detached and refitted the SCSI chain - powered all the devices back up (allowing for self tests, of course) - answered "n" to the "Restart or power off?" window, and continued right back where I left off. The key, you see, is to a) not let any data linger on the databus when you do it, and b) don't short or ground any of the electrical (thus causing something deeply catastrophic in the form of a reboot with an un-synced drive!). * DISCLAIMER: --- I have done this at least 10 times already. Of course there's just one _little_ thing... I've never ADDED devices to it while it's "in production". I've just shuffled things around, and once REMOVED... but never ADDED. Most OS's don't care if something it's ignoring disappears, like an empty CDROM drive... heck, maybe a tape drive wouldn't be bad. But if it thinks that there's nothing available at the SCSI address when it starts, I have my personal doubts that it will even attempt to recognize something added later. Who knows for sure. If you try it, tell us what happens... -- Dan Berry dan_berry%atlantis@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca _____________________________________________________________________________ Smiles: $FREE. Conversations: $0.02. Relationships: $CALL FOR AVAILABILITY.
From: rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP PCI and NSIntel Date: 1 Jan 1994 18:37:29 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu> Does anyone know if NSIntel will work with Pentium Machines using a PCI bus? Are there any PCI Video Cards that are supported under NS3.2? Thanks for any help. I will summarize any help given to me and post the results. I have tried to get help from both NeXT and several video card manufacturers to no avail. The NS compatability list doesn't really help me. (I might have an old list) Thanks Ray Gasser rayg@csa.bu.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? Date: 1 Jan 1994 20:08:12 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: world Message-ID: <2g4l7c$4f0@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2g244i$jta@usenet.rpi.edu> <2g25fn$ls6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> : Isn't this true of all SCSI devices on all platforms? I understand that it is pretty much true of most platforms due to the SCSI standard. However, there have been kludges on some systems that allow "hot-switching" devices. I presume that these kludges consist of some specialized hardware that fake to the controller the presence of a device with some id (if the controller itself doesn't do it), even when it is not there, so that the drive never seems to have been absent from the SCSI chain to some software aware of the problem. I believe that HP has a Pentium server that allows such hot-swapping. I know there are some other devices. Of course, none of these is likely to be NS-compatible. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? Date: 1 Jan 1994 22:25:21 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2g4t8h$1sc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2g25fn$ls6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Garance A. Drosehn writes > > ..., but it > > really annoys me that I can't just turn off a device and then > > turn it back on later when I need it. (particularly for > > mountable devices like CD-ROM drives and MO drives). > > > > This is true up to NS-3.2, as far as I know. > > Isn't this true of all SCSI devices on all platforms? I don't believe so. Certainly one of my friends connects and disconnects both CD-ROM drives and MO drives from his Sun workstation on the fly, and it's worked every time he's done it. (I know this, because it's one of *my* spare CD-ROM drives that he's attaching and detaching...). I know people do it on Macs too, but that's more of a risky proposition. One of the guys I know does Mac demos all the time, so he's always attaching/detaching things on the fly. He says he gets away with it about 80-90% of the time, and the remainder of the time it either 1) Just doesn't happen to work without rebooting, or 2) Totally trashes his hard disk and everything on it... So, he doesn't recommend it, even if he does keep doing it. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DEC MTE2 Experiences? Date: 1 Jan 1994 22:44:45 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2g4uct$hmp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> I'd like comments, gossip, anything from someone using the DEC MTE2 with NS 3.2. How are graphics? What is maximum resolution? Etc. Thanks! Robert de Lucca
From: onyxcat@unm.edu (The Onyx Kitten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting an 030 without a monitor Date: 1 Jan 1994 16:04:13 -0700 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Sender: onyxcat@unm.edu Message-ID: <2g4vhd$gdi@vesta.unm.edu> References: <2fv80p$rk7@vesta.unm.edu> <1993Dec31.123425.12647@free.fdn.org> Thanks for the help everyone - the 030's up and running fine without the monitor now :-) And thanx to the people who sent me pinouts for the NeXTBus! (and it seems we have most, if not all, the 12 Slab Power pins figured out). I apparently do have an "old" CUBE - attaching (to the DB-19 Monitor out) a 20 Ohm, 20 watt resistor between pins 12 and 13 (-12v and GND), then touching a 450 ohm resistor to pin 6 and GND get's it going just fine. Happy NeXT hardware hacking! Cliff onyxcat@unm.edu
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI VLB vs. ATI EISA ? Date: 31 Dec 1993 09:50:25 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2g0p4h$vr@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2fs9dqINN5v6@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit peter@piassun2.joanneum.ac.at (Peter Resele) writes: >yet another question... >Has anybody ever compared the ATI VLB to the ATI EISA card? I know the EISA >version should be slower, the question is: how much (noticable)? It is rumoured that the ATI EISA got enhanced drivers in 3.2 which make the speed difference compared with the VL card less significant. However, I couldn't check this myself. But be sure not to combine an ATI EISA with an Adaptec 1542C, a hardware conflict exists with these two cards. See NeXTanswers document #1122 for detailled information. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: utata!grisu (Gernot A. Pohl) Subject: 3COM - etherlink III - EISA??? Message-ID: <1994Jan1.235453.5373@utata.in-berlin.de> Sender: grisu@utata.in-berlin.de Organization: WY Date: Sat, 1 Jan 1994 23:54:53 GMT any experiences with the EISA-version of 3COM - etherlink III - EISA??? -- [NeXT-]Mail to grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de .. viel Spasz! > Gernot Pohl \_/ Schoenhauser Allee 5
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? (Eeek!) Date: 1 Jan 1994 21:57:14 -0800 Organization: The Omni Group Message-ID: <2g5nnq$hpa@yucca.omnigroup.com> References: <2g244i$jta@usenet.rpi.edu> <2g25fn$ls6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <1994Jan1.063120.8985@atlantis.uucp> Dan Berry writes: >I have done this at least 10 times already. Of course there's just one >_little_ thing... I've never ADDED devices to it while it's "in production". >I've just shuffled things around, and once REMOVED... but never ADDED. Most >OS's don't care if something it's ignoring disappears, like an empty CDROM >drive... heck, maybe a tape drive wouldn't be bad. But if it thinks that >there's nothing available at the SCSI address when it starts, I have my >personal doubts that it will even attempt to recognize something added later. I've removed devices using this trick, and NS doesn't like it much. It may seem to work at first, but eventually NS starts trying to access the missing device, and, not detecting it, issues errors to the console every couple of seconds. Bummer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin) Subject: Re: HELP PCI and NSIntel Message-ID: <1994Jan2.062405.7009@talus.com> Sender: sam@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 06:24:05 GMT In article <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu> rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) writes: | Does anyone know if NSIntel will work with Pentium Machines using | a PCI bus? Are there any PCI Video Cards that are supported under NS3.2? | It works without any problem about 1.5 month on my DELL OmniPlex 566 PCI Pentium machine. It have PCI version of ATI Mach32 with some unusual RAMDAC, and NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI. Both of theam are on-board. Despite of it this machine also have 3 PCI slots for plug-in boards. For video I'm using ATI driver developed in our firm. Native ATI driver bundled with NeXTSTEP cannot be used not because of PCI version of ATI chip, but because of non-standard RAMDAC. Our driver supports 1120x832 16-bit color -- _the_ same resolution as original NeXT -- with 13 icons in dock :-) It more than NS/FIP one (it supports 1024x768 max.) Video is very smooth and fast -- enough to say that DOOM (probably the only well-known example of good 3D animation under NS/FIP) runs at 2x resolution (640x400 window on 1120x832 display) as smooth as on VGA under DOS. SCSI driver for on-board SCSI controller is under develpment, but I hope (as a person who develop it :-) it'll be finished no later than the end of January. Now I'm using ancient Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI board. I heard about only one PCI plug-in video board on the market -- Diamond Viper, but we have no order on driver development for it yet. If there's any person interested in it -- we are ready to made such driver. -- Semyon Sosin Talus Imaging Corp. - Houston Bureau <sam@talus.com> (NeXT mail accepted) ph: (713)561-0700 10602 Chapel Hill Dr. Houston Tx. 77099
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: mouse won't work, can't make serialmouse driver work Date: 2 Jan 1994 02:32:25 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <2g64b9$m8a@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> I have a problem I've seen before, everything works when I config the system but then when it reboots the mouse is dead! I have a typical 3rd party noname mouse. I saved an old article that said the problem is that you should use the serialmouse driver instead of just the ps2 mouse. I rebuilt the whole damn thing again with the serialmouse driver and no go. i get some error messages about can't find driver and mouse_probe can't find mouse. what do I need to do to make my serial mouse work? I have a nice (not the one with the hint chips) super eisa, adaptec motherboard, 486dx2-66. This is with 3.1. It works great until I reboot the config. I hate to rebuild the whole thing again! thanks, nick kline kline@cs.arizona.edu
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DOOM for Ns/FIP was Re: HELP PCI and NSIntel Date: 02 Jan 1994 15:06:29 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Message-ID: <BWH.94Jan2100629@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu> <1994Jan2.062405.7009@talus.com> In-reply-to: sam@talus.com's message of Sun, 2 Jan 1994 06:24:05 GMT > enough to say that DOOM (probably the only well-known example of good 3D > animation under NS/FIP) runs at 2x resolution (640x400 window on 1120x832 > display) as smooth as on VGA under DOS. My God, the DOOM discussion has migrated HERE of all places. Are you saying that you ran the DOS version of DOOM under NextStep, or are you saying that you are running a NeXT version of DOOM? If the latter....well, um, WHERE DO I FIND IT?! Brian -- -------------- Brian Hook "Computer graphics: the only field in bwh@cis.ufl.edu computer science if it looks right, then it IS right." -- paraphrase
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with eCEsys? Date: 2 Jan 1994 15:30:41 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2g6pb1$1he@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Has anyone had any NS experience with ecesys machines? They sell Wingine-based 486's, certified (listed?) for NS (in black, too!). Personal observations much appreciated (such as resolution). Thanks Robert de Lucca The Johns Hopkins University
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with IntelGX w/ ATI Rev6 chip? Date: 2 Jan 1994 15:32:51 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2g6pf3$1hi@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Subject says it. Has anyone tried these machines with the new ATI rev6? Comments on video performance (compared to NS Color Turbo, for ex.) much appreciated. Thanks Robert de Lucca The Johns Hopkins University
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP PCI and NSIntel Date: 2 Jan 1994 15:38:37 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2g6ppt$64j@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) writes: >Does anyone know if NSIntel will work with Pentium Machines using >a PCI bus? Are there any PCI Video Cards that are supported under NS3.2? The PCI Video Cards from "miro" supposedly work with NS/I. They make one S3 card which works with the S3 driver which comes with 3.2, plus they also have high end cards which come with NS/I-drivers. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with eCEsys? Date: 2 Jan 1994 11:38:07 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401021738.AA05843@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > Has anyone had any NS experience with ecesys machines? > Yup -- a friend is reselling them, so note I may be biased, but I've had a bit more than a play an old one. The machines seem excellent, *very* fast platform from a company with a seriously good attitude. They want to create the best NS Intel h/w there is, and I think they`re probably doing so at the moment. They're writing their own driver for the Wingine, so I'm not sure what is the current best resolution... last I heard was Dec 01: "The new machines will also be shipped with the new Wingine card which supports 1120x832 and up to 1152x900 in 16 bit color mode. Any orders from today onward, can be shipped with these new upgrades." You could contact Marty Fossum directly for more tech info: ECESYS@delphi.com Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) Subject: Re: HELP PCI and NSIntel References: <1994Jan2.062405.7009@talus.com> Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 20:11:05 GMT Message-ID: <CJ0qqI.I0I@percy.rain.com> In article <1994Jan2.062405.7009@talus.com> sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin) writes: > In article <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu> rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) writes: > | Does anyone know if NSIntel will work with Pentium Machines using > | a PCI bus? Are there any PCI Video Cards that are supported under NS3.2? The Mirocrystal 32s,24s, 16s, and 8s pci all are shipping now and come with NS 3.2 drivers (though I am still awaiting the drivers for the 32s) -- Steve Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com NeXT Mail OK..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: DOOM for Ns/FIP was Re: HELP PCI and NSIntel Message-ID: <1994Jan2.221631.1473@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <BWH.94Jan2100629@beach.cis.ufl.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 22:16:31 GMT In article <BWH.94Jan2100629@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: > My God, the DOOM discussion has migrated HERE of all places. Are you > saying that you ran the DOS version of DOOM under NextStep, or are you > saying that you are running a NeXT version of DOOM? If the latter....well, > um, WHERE DO I FIND IT?! It has been here for a little while. Doom was developed by Id Software on NeXTSTEP, and was first released (in beta form) for NS/Intel. I last saw it on cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/submissions. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: mouse won't work, can't make serialmouse driver work Date: 2 Jan 1994 16:26:02 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <2g7l6a$8kb@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <2g64b9$m8a@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> In article <2g64b9$m8a@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>, Nick Kline <kline@CS.Arizona.EDU> wrote: > >I have a problem I've seen before, everything works when I config the system >but then when it reboots the mouse is dead! I have a typical 3rd party >noname mouse. > I fixed it. I rebuilt the whole thing with the serial mouse driver and the standard intel config. Took a couple of hours. Still didn't work. Then I boot in single user mode (couldn't they have at least provided enough of a terminal to run vi in?) and notice that the config for the other intel machine says it only has 1 serial port (and I have the mouse on #2). Ah well. I changed the official config file to 2 and that fixed it. Only required two builds. It would seem like it would save a lot of time if you could just run a configure like app directly instead of endlessly rebuilding the whole damn thing. At least I got it to work.
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From: ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Date: 3 Jan 1994 09:27:22 +0100 Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses Message-ID: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> I'm going to buy a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation and could get Apple CD300 external drive cheaply. Does anyone have any experiences with this drive? Can it be used with NeXTstation and if yes, can it be used to play audio CD's and use PhotoCD disks under NeXTstep? The drive itself does support them. Thanks! Petri -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Petri Tuomola (root@echelon.hacktic.nl) (ptuomola@hacktic.nl) Get stoned - drink wet concrete
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: Dead FIMI - need monitor and cable pinouts Message-ID: <1993Dec27.205014.492@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH References: <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 20:50:14 GMT In article <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com> jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) writes: > My FIMI monitor went dead and is unrepairable at reasonable cost. Any Philips repair center should be out to repair the FIMI color monitor at reasonable cost ( < $500 ), unless the tube itself is damaged. But in most cases you need to supply them with a NeXT Colorstation, so that they can do proper adjustments. > Also, are there any specs I need to know about the monitor in order > to know if a particular replacement will work? It is VERY dangerous to try and repair these monitors, since they carry high voltage, even after they've been plugged off. Don't even try it. It's not worth it. Wilfried Beeck d'ART Software GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Re: HELP PCI and NSIntel Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CJ1quw.9wz@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 09:11:20 GMT References: <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu> Organization: University of Giessen, Germany In article <2g4fta$oj8@news.bu.edu>, rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) writes: |> Does anyone know if NSIntel will work with Pentium Machines using |> a PCI bus? Are there any PCI Video Cards that are supported under NS3.2? |> |> Thanks for any help. I will summarize any help given to me and post the |> results. I have tried to get help from both NeXT and several video card |> manufacturers to no avail. The NS compatability list doesn't really |> help me. (I might have an old list) |> |> Thanks |> Ray Gasser |> rayg@csa.bu.edu |> Well, I canït say for Pentium, but 486/PCI works, I just installed NS3.2 last weekend on my Intel-Tower with ASUS-PCI motherboard and Miro 8s/PCI card (waiting for my Miro 16s/PCI card). I needed a Adaptec 1542cf, though, because there isnït a driver available yet for the onbard scsi-controller from NCR (should sream). I will post some performance indicators in the future (with miro 16s/PCI). Cheers, Karsten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Re: mouse won't work, can't make serialmouse driver work Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CJ1r31.87E@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 09:16:13 GMT References: <2g64b9$m8a@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <2g7l6a$8kb@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> Organization: University of Giessen, Germany In article <2g7l6a$8kb@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>, kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: |> In article <2g64b9$m8a@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>, |> Nick Kline <kline@CS.Arizona.EDU> wrote: |> > |> >I have a problem I've seen before, everything works when I config the system |> >but then when it reboots the mouse is dead! I have a typical 3rd party |> >noname mouse. |> > |> |> I fixed it. I rebuilt the whole thing with the serial mouse driver and |> the standard intel config. Took a couple of hours. Still didn't work. |> |> Then I boot in single user mode (couldn't they have at least provided |> enough of a terminal to run vi in?) and notice that the config for the |> other intel machine says it only has 1 serial port (and I have the mouse |> on #2). |> |> Ah well. I changed the official config file to 2 and that fixed it. |> |> Only required two builds. It would seem like it would save a lot of time |> if you could just run a configure like app directly instead of endlessly |> rebuilding the whole damn thing. At least I got it to work. |> Yeah, I had the same annoying problem. I fixed it in a hardware way. I just got an 9to24pin adaptor and plucked the mouse into com#1. Everything worked allright then. Cheers, Karsten
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller) Subject: Dead MegaMono 17" - Hope? Message-ID: <CJ23wB.8n2@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 13:52:58 GMT Has anyone been able to repair a 17" MegapixelDisplay Mono. Is there a fuse or a power supply than can be checked? Thanks -Florian
From: shuque@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Shumon Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead FIMI - need monitor and cable pinouts Message-ID: <2g9adb$ai3@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 3 Jan 94 14:34:19 GMT References: <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com> <1993Dec27.205014.492@dart.de> Organization: University of Pennsylvania In article <1993Dec27.205014.492@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de writes: >In article <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com> jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) writes: > >> My FIMI monitor went dead and is unrepairable at reasonable cost. > >Any Philips repair center should be out to repair the FIMI color monitor at >reasonable cost ( < $500 ), unless the tube itself is damaged. >But in most cases you need to supply them with a NeXT Colorstation, so that >they can do proper adjustments. > None of the Philips service centers in the U.S. would even take a look at my Fimi. They said the monitor is manufactured in Italy and Philips doesnt have an authorized service center for this particular monitor in this country. They told me to try: Pixelink Corporation Hudson, MA 508-562-4803 I called them (this was many months ago) and they recognized the monitor. They gave me an over the phone estimate of < $300. I didnt use them since I had already purchased a 21" Hitachi. --Shumon.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Mounting SUN disk (read-only) Message-ID: <1994Jan3.112844.19316@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 11:28:44 GMT For those who are interested: To mount !!!read-only!!! a one partition SUN disk just type: 1) If it's a removable media /etc/mount -r /dev/sdXh /directory (X stand for the volume number) then insert the disk when the WorkspaceManager asks for. When finished, /etc/unmount /directory then /etc/disk -e /dev/rsdXh to eject. 2) If it's a fixed disk, don't initialise the volume when you log-in, then proceed as above. --Fabien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead MegaMono 17" - Hope? Date: 3 Jan 1994 16:57:10 +0100 Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses Message-ID: <2g9f94INNf5s@xs4all.hacktic.nl> References: <CJ23wB.8n2@eunet.ch> Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller) writes: >Has anyone been able to repair a 17" MegapixelDisplay Mono. Is there a fuse or a >power supply than can be checked? This might help you: From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MegaPixel Won't Come Up Message-ID: <2adi37$5k7@cc.tut.fi> Date: 24 Oct 93 09:32:23 GMT Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre >With no previous symptoms of trouble, my 2 1/2 year old B/W Monitor >suddenly refuses to show anything at all -- it's black as if screen- >blanked. It was not dimming at all. If you are not familiar with electronics, just dumb this message to the recycler. There are no fuses inside the Megapixel, but there are several components that are measured so that they work as a fuse. This is a real pain. In my experience, D1 (diode) is one of the first components to get burned when something funny happens. Then there's a resistor right after it (can't remember the part number, R something anyway) which is located right above the diode. These are the two components that burn very easily. There's a lame illustration of the boards and the place of the components: _______________ | _____________ | || @@ # || || @@ # || || || || ### || < the board that handles the || R ### || picture generation || D1 || ||_____________|| / ____________ / / / / / < the board that takes care of / /___________/ / volume, brightness, keyboard/mouse, /_______________/ etc (SMD) @@ @@ = high voltage transformer ## = passive cooling elements When you open the monitor, you'll have to disconnect the high voltage cable to the tube and loose some screws and you'll able to pull this L shaped rack with two boards out. D1 and the R are located as shown in the figure. When board is functioning, there's about 50 V around the diode and the resistor. Check the diode and if it's burned, just replace it. I couldn't find the same diode as a service part in Finland, so I replaced it with Motorola 70 V/5A very fast diode. Can't remember the type, but browse a Motorola diode catalog, it should be easy to find. If the resistor is burned, don't replace it with a heavier one, because that way it will loose its function in working as a fuse. I've burned 3 separate Megapixels and each time it has been one of those two components. Good luck. Feel free to ask any further questions. -- Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology 33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851 ------8<---------8<-------- Good luck... Petri -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Petri Tuomola (root@echelon.hacktic.nl) (ptuomola@hacktic.nl) Get stoned - drink wet concrete
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: albert@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala) Subject: A problem with BT-542B Message-ID: <1994Jan3.181312.17717@news.cs.tut.fi> Sender: usenet@news.cs.tut.fi (#Kotilo NEWS system ) Organization: Tampere University of Technology Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 18:13:12 GMT This is a forwarded message from Juha Tuominen (juha.tuominen@cc.tut.fi): I was trying to get a PC to work with BT-542B today, but no luck so far. I'm counting on you, netland! The PC is GT486, 66 MHz DX2. It uses separate IDE controller (a multi function card with IDE controller, floppy controller, serial and parallel ports). Floppy is connected to Buslogic and work OK. IDE-harddisk (0.5 G) works, too. Toshiba CD-rom, which is connected to BT-542 gets IO timeouts all the time. I tried to install NSI3.2, but several IO timeouts occured so I aborted and tried to change switches on the board, but it didn't work either. So installation log looks something like this: Resetting SCSI bus... xxxxxxing sc0 (can't remember what it does, but it's the first reference to the controller) AHA timeout xxxxxxing sd0 Toshiba, block size xxx, disk name NEXTSTEP_3.2 etc... xxxxxxing sg0 . . . xxxxxxing sg4 I/O timeout Resetting SCSI bus ..and so it goes on. When the controller tries to access a block from the CD-rom it finally gets it but it might take two tries after it works. My guess is that there's something wrong with the DMA transfer (because the first timeout happens when NS seeks for the scsi controller). Any ideas what's wrong? All the help is appreciated! -- Pasi Ojala /| | _ _ _ ___ albert@cs.tut.fi /_| | |_) |_ |_) | albert@cc.tut.fi / | |__ |_) |_ | \ |
From: congdon@eecs.umich.edu (Clare Bates Congdon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with my 400 meg Seagate drive Date: 3 Jan 94 13:57:51 Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: comp Message-ID: <CONGDON.94Jan3135751@ocular.eecs.umich.edu> Hi all -- I got a NeXT with a 400 meg Seagate drive about 3 years ago; this summer, I started having problems....Every once in a while the disk JUST STOPS SPINNING. (There is a clicking noise and then the disk winds to a stop.) This most often happens during power up, but there have been times when the machine has been on for hours and then the disk does its little trick. So far, I've been able to turn off the machine, wait, and turn it on again. Sometimes, I have to repeat the off/wait/on sequence several times (once it took 7 times) before it works. (The disk always spins when I first turn it on, but sometimes it stops during the booting process.) Also, the problem was much more frequent in the summer, and I suspect it may be related to high humidity. In the summer, the problem occured one or more times a week; now, the problem is fairly rare (maybe once in the past two months). Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is there any fix for it, or should I just grit my teeth and buy a new disk drive? Is there any way to predict how much longer it'll be till I just won't be able to get the disk to spin again? Thanks for your help, Clare congdon@eecs.umich.edu p.s. for what it's worth, the NeXT is at home, and these days, spends more time off than on, though sometimes I leave it on for a week or so. I moved in the past year -- is it possible that the new place doesn't have clean power, and this is related to the problem? If so, what could I do about it?
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep on Notebooks Date: 3 Jan 1994 19:41:57 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2g9se5$lpm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Keywords: Nextstep Notebook I am considering buying a large volume of notebook computers and marketing a Nextstep Notebook with Nextstep preinstalled. Two computers that seem appropriate for this are the IBM ThinkPad 750C and the Ergo Powerbrick 66. I would like to know what experience anyone has had installing Nextstep on a notebook, and which platform they think would be best. If there is enough interest I would be able to sell these for less than what it would cost if done individually plus the convenience of just turn it on and it works. To get an idea of the demand for this please send email and let me know your interest along with any other helpful information. Greg Howland gregory@mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: albert@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala) Subject: Does Stealth w/2M work with NSI? Message-ID: <1994Jan3.200719.19952@news.cs.tut.fi> Sender: usenet@news.cs.tut.fi (#Kotilo NEWS system ) Organization: Tampere University of Technology Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 20:07:19 GMT This is a forwarded message from Juha Tuominen (juha.tuominen@cc.tut.fi): Does the VLB Stealth with 2 megs of ram work with NSI? I suppose S3 is the driver to run it with. Has anyone tried it? -- Pasi Ojala The number of people staring at you albert@cs.tut.fi is straightly proportional to the albert@cc.tut.fi stupidity of your action.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Message-ID: <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development References: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 20:39:46 GMT In article <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) writes: > I'm going to buy a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation and could get Apple CD300 > external drive cheaply. Does anyone have any experiences with this drive? > Can it be used with NeXTstation and if yes, can it be used to play audio > CD's and use PhotoCD disks under NeXTstep? The drive itself does support > them. I've used a NeXTstation with an Apple CD300. Using NS3.1 or better, this combination works just great for data (NeXT, Macintosh, DOS, ISO 9660), audio and PhotoCD disks. --bob
From: phredd@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Phredd Groves) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead External Floppy. Bell Atlantic won't touch it, who will? Date: 3 Jan 1994 22:27:06 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2ga63q$gn2@news.acns.nwu.edu> I am trying to get an external 3.5" floppy for a next workstation either repaired or replaced. Currently, my usual service channels will not touch any Next related hardware and Bell Atlantic won't deal with it either, because it was built by a third party, one PLI. I can't find any info on this piece of hardware in the ancient rpo I found that would help me find this company PLI. So: Can anyone direct me to a service provider that will deal with this piece of hardware and/or put me in touch with PLI, whoever and wherever they are [that is, if they still are]. Thanks muchly for your time and attention. phredd -- Phredd Groves phredd@nwu.edu ACNS repair
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) Subject: recommendation on 8mm tape drives? Message-ID: <CJ2ozq.DxG@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 21:28:38 GMT Has anyone recently purchased an 8mm tape drive for a black NeXT and can recommend a model and vendor? jpw@virginia.edu
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: modem won't work but the mouse will Date: 3 Jan 1994 16:22:17 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <2ga9b9$cpf@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> The mouse is on com port 1 (cufa on the next) and it works fine. I am using the Onboard serial port driver. I can't get any communication to the modem in com port 2. I'm sure I am selecting the right port (cufb, but I tried cufa also). I have permission to open the ports etc (run as root). The config application reports this information: serial mouse on port a the on board serial port uses irq's 3 & 4 with no problems. The driver address is 8 bytes starting at 3f8. This is correct for com1, but it seems that it should also show a driver address at 2f8 for com2. The offfical location for the two ports is: Com1 at 3f8 com2 at 2f8 I looked at the serial port config and it listed the two addresses as: "0x3f8-0x3ff, 0x2f8-0x2ff" or the equivalent if that's not exactly the right syntax. Thinking that perhaps the mouse and modem were separate, I changed the single serial driver here to 2f8 (for com 2). This changed removed the 3f8 range from the above list. When I rebooted, the system hung at driver init time. So I booted in single user and added in the 3f8 range again it and works as before (no com 1 access). I carefully watched the messages printed at boot time, and it says something like: mouse probe init (or something to that effect) com0 init pp0 init So, what is com0? Does that refer to com port 1? Or somehow is does the mouse probe refer to com port 1 and the 'com0 init' refers to the first free com port (com port 2 in this case). It seems that somehow I need to be able to turn on the com port. -nick kline
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Date: 4 Jan 1994 01:30:41 GMT Organization: E&S Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gags1$e7j@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> In article 2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl, ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) writes: > I'm going to buy a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation and could get Apple CD300 > external drive cheaply. Does anyone have any experiences with this drive? > Can it be used with NeXTstation and if yes, can it be used to play audio > CD's and use PhotoCD disks under NeXTstep? The drive itself does support > them. > > Thanks! > > Petri I have an Apple CD300 drive. I've used it on white hardware (NS 3.1 and 3.2), and black hardware (cube and station, NS 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2) with no problems. I've only tested the audio and PhotoCD capabilities under white, but it worked, too. Nevin
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Date: 4 Jan 1994 01:57:07 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2gaidj$s8@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com> In article <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com>, Bob Congdon <bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com> wrote: >In article <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) >writes: >> I'm going to buy a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation and could get Apple CD300 >> external drive cheaply. Does anyone have any experiences with this drive? >> Can it be used with NeXTstation and if yes, can it be used to play audio >> CD's and use PhotoCD disks under NeXTstep? The drive itself does support >> them. > >I've used a NeXTstation with an Apple CD300. Using NS3.1 or better, this >combination works just great for data (NeXT, Macintosh, DOS, ISO 9660), audio >and PhotoCD disks. > >--bob > Hmmm. I bought an Apple CD150 (on sale for $150) which *seems* to be a white NeXT CD-ROM drive. But CDPlayer does not work with it (it did w/ NeXT drive). Robert
From: long0@ncc.centel.com (Gary Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A problem with BT-542B Date: 4 Jan 1994 02:07:31 GMT Organization: Central Telephone Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gaj13$ald@coergw2.centel.com> References: <1994Jan3.181312.17717@news.cs.tut.fi> In article <1994Jan3.181312.17717@news.cs.tut.fi>, albert@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala) writes: |> This is a forwarded message from Juha Tuominen (juha.tuominen@cc.tut.fi): |> |> I was trying to get a PC to work with BT-542B today, but no luck so far. |> I'm counting on you, netland! |> The PC is GT486, 66 MHz DX2. It uses separate IDE controller (a multi |> function card with IDE controller, floppy controller, serial and |> parallel ports). Floppy is connected to Buslogic and work OK. The floppy controllers on the Adaptec-compatible SCSI cards are not "officially" supported, according to various related NeXTanswers documents. In my experience, they sometimes work, othertimes do not. I suggest you begin by connecting your floppy to a very generic IDE/floppy controller card. The IDE card that you are already using seems to have one. If this doesn't work, don't undo it. You may have multiple problems. For the most part, my experience indicates that once you install NeXTSTEP, the floppy controller on the SCSI cards will work, but they often DON'T work to install. I have also encountered a few IDE cards that cause strange problems like this, and they have tended to be the more complex cards with "enhancements," which as we all know is a euphemism for "incompatible" (see also: AIX.) |> IDE-harddisk (0.5 G) works, too. Toshiba CD-rom, which is connected to |> BT-542 gets IO timeouts all the time. I tried to install NSI3.2, but |> several IO timeouts occured so I aborted and tried to change switches on |> the board, but it didn't work either. So installation log looks something |> like this: |> |> Resetting SCSI bus... |> xxxxxxing sc0 (can't remember what it does, but it's the first reference |> to the controller) |> AHA timeout |> xxxxxxing sd0 |> Toshiba, block size xxx, disk name NEXTSTEP_3.2 etc... |> xxxxxxing sg0 |> . |> . |> . |> xxxxxxing sg4 |> I/O timeout |> Resetting SCSI bus |> |> ..and so it goes on. When the controller tries to access a block from the |> CD-rom it finally gets it but it might take two tries after it works. |> My guess is that there's something wrong with the DMA transfer |> (because the first timeout happens when NS seeks for the scsi controller). Good guess. The first step in trouble shooting SCSI problems is nearly always to lower the DMA transfer setting. If your card is connected via an ISA slot, you should use the lowest setting. Most of these cards have DMA transfer settings that seem to exceed even the theoretical limit of the ISA bus, much less the actual limit. Don't know why. Maybe I'm missing something. Before you do anything else, send email to: NeXTanswers@next.com with a subject: INDEX HELP ASCII and a message: 1127 Look through the index that you get, and send off for ALL the docs on SCSI cards and SCSI setup, even if they don't seem to be related to your system. I've found helpful hints in the docs for cards I've never seen. They aren't very long, so you won't be swamped. BEST OF LUCK. Gary Longsine long0@ncc.centel.com |> Any ideas what's wrong? All the help is appreciated! |> -- |> Pasi Ojala /| | _ _ _ ___ |> albert@cs.tut.fi /_| | |_) |_ |_) | |> albert@cc.tut.fi / | |__ |_) |_ | \ |
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ?Type of SIMMs for NeXT Turbo SLABs Date: 4 Jan 1994 03:25:44 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <2ganjo$1c4@gamera.umd.edu> Keywords: NeXTstation,slab,turbo,SIMM,memory I have a NeXTstation Turbo/mono slab that I would like to add more memory to. It currently has 16MB of RAM (installed at the factory). First off: what type of SIMM do these things use (#pins, ?ns[speed], etc). Second: any caveats to installation (grouping, placement amongst others, etc). Third: cheapest place to get them (must take a University PO)/what is going price per 8MB or whatever. Thanks! -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Mike F. Santangelo + . Looking outward, up and beyond Dept. Head-Computer & Network Systems + + .. UMCEES / CBL (Solomons Island) + + . .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: alvaro@swt (alvaro Dos Santos) Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Message-ID: <1994Jan3.154821.8485@swt.fdn.org> Sender: alvaro@swt.fdn.org References: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 15:48:21 GMT In article <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) writes: > I'm going to buy a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation and could get Apple CD300 > external drive cheaply. Does anyone have any experiences with this drive? > Can it be used with NeXTstation and if yes, can it be used to play audio > CD's and use PhotoCD disks under NeXTstep? The drive itself does support > them. > Yes. We got one few CD300 and they work fine with our NextStation TurboColor and with our Intel based stations. I don't know about audio CD's an PhotoCD. Alvaro.
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ET4000 W32i Graphic Card. Date: 4 Jan 1994 07:51:17 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2gb75l$lj4@galaxy.ucr.edu> Anyone know if the ET4000 W32i will be able to show color under NeXTSTEP 3.2? I know that the regular ET4000 is a 2bit grayscale card. What about the W32i version? Denny Chuang
From: davel@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Lowens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: High speed serial interface Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 06:11:36 EST Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2XkmFc2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: davel@mindvox Are there any cards like the Hayes ESP card or something similar, that work under NS/Intel and allow the connection of high speed modems like the new 28.8 models? I know our stock 486 installations have varying levels of reliability with the serial ports locked at 38.4, while some machines won't handle above 19.2. The best luck we've had so far is with the Dell JAWS machine which seems to have the best thouroughput, but still leaves a stream of errors in the console.log, although without ever crashing once the new drivers were installed. Thank you. If something like this does not exist, I would say it might be a very useful driver to write.
From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Date: 4 Jan 1994 13:56:29 GMT Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Message-ID: <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com> In article <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com>, Bob Congdon <bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com> wrote: > >I've used a NeXTstation with an Apple CD300. Using NS3.1 or better, this >combination works just great for data (NeXT, Macintosh, DOS, ISO 9660), audio >and PhotoCD disks. > Does it support Multi-Session PhotoCD's? For that matter, does the NeXT (black) CD-ROM support Multi-Session? -- Timothy Buck ------------------------------------------------ timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu "I take Him shopping with me. I say, 'OK, Jesus, rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu help me find a bargain'."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI Message-ID: <CJ2qtr.In9@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <1993Dec30.230127.15970@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <CIvxwq.IJD@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <1994Jan1.053539.29407@math.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 22:08:15 GMT In article <1994Jan1.053539.29407@math.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes: >In article <CIvxwq.IJD@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: >>In article <1993Dec30.230127.15970@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: >>>Malcolm Crawford (M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote: >>>: You might try contacting i-Link who were also planning to do a [munch] >>>MIX/Intel should be available bundled with an DSP56001 card. Their contact is: >> >>Alembic promised to let me know as soon as they had any of the i-link cards. >>There is a problem with these cards: (a) they only offer an 8KHz sample [munch] >>>With this card - no problem ... By the way - do you know the price of the >>>DSP56001 (to have a rough dimension for this project) ? >>> >>>: mmalcolm. >>> >>> Gregor >>> >>>| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | >>>| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | >>>| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | >>>| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | >> >>david >>------- >> >>-- >>david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more >>voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. >>nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein) > >Ariel Corporation in NJ has an entire line of DSP boards for PCs. >These employ TI's TMS320C40, TMS320C30, and TMS320C25 DSP chips, >AT&T DSP3210, DSP32C, Motorola DSP96002, DSP56001, and I think >DSP56002. Prices range from the sublime to the ridiculous, however [munch] This is the whole problem. For one off research projects, yes, get Ariel. I have bought two Ariel Boards and they're great, but if you are trying to base shareware on a DSP, or mount a software product on the DSP (e.g. a text to speech kit), such expensive hardware doesn't get you very far. If you want something a little less expensive, there's a whole slew of plug-ins with various DSPs and general processors made by Spectrum 8525 Baxter Place, 100 Production Court, Burnaby, BC V5A 4V7 Canada, Tel: 604-421-5422, Fax: 604-421-1764 There are other manufacturers, check the FAQs for comp.dsp (there's a lst dated July 93). The best bang for buck for the consumer right now seems to be the Turtle Beach Multisound. You can buy a computer system for the price of an Ariel Board!! Hey, maybe you should try the Atari Falcon, which has a 56001 integrated into the Tom chip--one of the Tom & Jerry pair that comprise the Falcon chipset. The whole machine comes for around $1700CDN. Then there are Macs and others with DSPs. But don't try the SGI Iris cos the chip is not accessible, according to my information. If anyone *really* solves this problem, please, *please* let me know. > > >Ariel BBS is very good. >Hope some of this information is helpful towards a NSI DSP board. > > >Charlie Dvorak > > -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: the Lost Cause Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: balls for mice Date: 4 Jan 1994 16:59:04 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gc78o$i2o@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> For some reason, I like the subject line....but I digress. Being the NeXT hardware type guy at this university, I am responsible for maintaining the NeXT hardware for five classrooms, and many of the profs. And, of course, being an .edu site, there are more than enough student-generated problems. It was bad enough that one class thought the logos on the front of the machines were cool collectors items, and proceeded to remove almost all of them from the 150 machines in the classrooms; now I have to cope with the mice balls taking a walk. Bell Atlantic says that they have none available, and I know of no other source for them. Anyone out there have a source for these pesky creatures that like to take walks? Obviously, this would be preferable to just ordering new mice entirely, since I have a shelf full of mice that would work, if only they had their balls! Thanks for any info. Jeff -- ************************************************************************ the Lost Cause jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (hardwaire guy extraordinaire) MACTech,NeXTtech; NeXTmail accepted "Everything is relative." ************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn) Subject: Re: What CD-ROM drive for a NeXTstation? Message-ID: <CJ476I.4pF@pts.mot.com> Sender: news@pts.mot.com Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging and Wireless Data Group, Boynton Beach, FL References: <2fe769$5q3@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 16:59:05 GMT Warning: The 3xp from NEC will NOT work with SoftPC. It is an awesome CD-ROM drive, but Insignia doesn't plan on supporting it anytime soon. Just thought you might like to know. Stu In article <2fe769$5q3@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rse@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Robert S Elder) writes: > I need a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation. The ones that I am looking at are > the: > > NEC 3xp triple spin portable > Toshiba 3401 > and Sony CDU561 > > I plan to build my only hard drive from the CD-ROM so I'll need to be able to > boot from the CD-ROM. Do any of the above have any problems in this respect? > What incompatibility problems arise with the above drives? (like not being > able to play audio CD's, etc.) All of the above claim PhotoCD compliance, but > are there any problems with NS? Any drives I have overlooked? > > Any info very much appreciated, > > Robert Elder (rse@gas.uug.arizona.edu) -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Stuart Hamlyn Motorola Inc. Applied Research MS 71 1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: albert@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala) Subject: Does Diamond Stealth VLB w/2MB work using #9GXE? Message-ID: <1994Jan4.190339.15621@news.cs.tut.fi> Sender: usenet@news.cs.tut.fi (#Kotilo NEWS system ) Organization: Tampere University of Technology Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 19:03:39 GMT This is a forwarded message from: Juha Tuominen I'm considering to use Diamond Stealth Pro VLB graphic display adapter with NSI, but I don't know if there's a driver for it. Offically NeXT does not support it, but I have a feeling that #9GXE driver might work, because GXE is using the same chipset as Stealth. Does anyone have this working with NSI? -Juha -- Pasi Ojala The smaller .signature you have the more friends you get. albert@cs.tut.fi albert@cc.tut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Message-ID: <1994Jan4.190536.14906@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com> <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 19:05:36 GMT In article <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) writes: >>In article <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com>, >>Bob Congdon <bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com> wrote: >>> >>>I've used a NeXTstation with an Apple CD300. Using NS3.1 or better, this >>>combination works just great for data (NeXT, Macintosh, DOS, ISO 9660), audio >>>and PhotoCD disks. >>> >>Does it support Multi-Session PhotoCD's? For that matter, does the NeXT >>(black) CD-ROM support Multi-Session? >> short answer: multi-session is a combination of hardware and software. hardware: Apple CD300 yes. Apple SC150 no. NeXT CD-ROM no. In their defense, both those drives where built before anyone was shipping such drives. software: to my knowledge, NS doesn't support multi-session. The reason is that SCSI manufacturers haven't totally agreed on the commands to implement the XA extension, so NeXT can't just stick it in the standard CD-ROM driver. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Rebooting in single-user mode on Intel Hardware Date: 4 Jan 1994 20:01:30 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gchuq$gd5@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <9312301357.AA17312@dmoc61.on.bell.ca> In article <9312301357.AA17312@dmoc61.on.bell.ca> dgoldrin@on.bell.ca (Dmitri Goldring) writes: > > I know entering s-u mode requires a combination key press at reboot, > but exactly which keys, and at what stage of reboot I have no idea. > I seem to remember that typing at the boot prompt "()mach_kernel -s" or something along those lines gets you into single user mode. YOu can also specify the boot device this way, quite similarly to the black NeXT computers. Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Does "halt" really halt CPU on Intel ? Date: 4 Jan 1994 20:47:37 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gckl9$517@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: Dead keyboard after halt on Intel When you do "halt" as root on NS for Intel machines, it appears that keyboard becomes totally dead. Is this true? We have EPSON NX and this puppy does not have a RESET button unlike most PCs. To reboot from this state, I have to power cycle the machine which I would like to avoid. On black hardware "halt" puts you into the ROM Monitor from which you could reboot/power down/etc... Couldn't NeXT have put a little program that at least waited for CTL-ALT-DEL to put the execution back to the boot sequence? I know that keyboard driver gets loaded after kernel is up, and halting the kernel also wipes the NS keyboard driver, but they could reset the CPU into real mode and use ROM BIOS driver for this. Am I missing something? -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Date: 4 Jan 1994 21:33:39 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gcnbj$5v3@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) writes: > Bob Congdon <bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com> wrote: > > I've used a NeXTstation with an Apple CD300. Using NS3.1 or > > better, this combination works just great for data (NeXT, > > Macintosh, DOS, ISO 9660), audio and PhotoCD disks. > > Does it support Multi-Session PhotoCD's? For that matter, does > the NeXT (black) CD-ROM support Multi-Session? The CD-ROM drive that NeXT sold can not support multisession CD's. The Apple CD300 does support multi-session CD's, on Macs. NeXTSTEP on black hardware does not support multi-session though, not on any CD-ROM drive. I don't know about multisession on NS/Intel machines. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bense@heart3.ucsd.edu (Booker C. Bense) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pinouts for Next B&W monitor Message-ID: <3542@deadmin.ucsd.edu> Date: 4 Jan 94 19:55:00 GMT Sender: news@deadmin.ucsd.edu Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @ UCSD - Does anyone have the pinouts of the D19 connector used for the NeXT B&W monitors? I have an old cube I'd like to use as a headless server. - thanks - Booker
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best source for 1.0G to 2.0G SCSI disks? Date: 5 Jan 1994 01:06:29 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2gd3ql$40e@menudo.uh.edu> Ok, this last issue of NeXTWorld seemed absent of any vendors selling SCSI disks... The last one we bought from was from Tecor, but they fell by the wayside last March... So, does anyone have some recent pricing info for 1.0G to 2.0G SCSI disks? We are looking for one disk, 5 1/4" or 3 1/2" form, enclosure, and powersupply with at least a 3 year warrenty.... -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fujitsu/Seagate/Toshiba/Maxtor drive reliability? Date: 5 Jan 1994 01:13:45 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gd489$h3e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I am going to buy a larger capacity SCSI drive to replace the 250 MB Seagate internal drive that came with my NeXT. Does anyone know of any studies (maybe in some computer magazine?) concerning the quality (reliability) of the brands mentioned in the headers? Is Fujitsu clearly a higher quality drive than Seagate, or are they all about the same quality? Any personal reflections are welcome. If a trend develops among any responses I get, I'll post it to the net. Ed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all? Message-ID: <1994Jan5.021535.14542@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <2fclis$kcv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 02:15:35 GMT In article <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald) writes: >L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote: > >: One thing I don't understand is the use of ATI graphics. >: It is pretty much universally cited as being slower than >: several other offerings, yet builders of NS/Intel >: systems use it fairly often. Why? Economics? >: Hidden virtues? Hype? > >My graphics card of choice is still the ATI -- even if it isn't >the fastest thing going anymore. Fact is, it's supported by more >operating systems than any other card on the market, and it isn't >exactly slow either (except for moving windows in NeXTStep). Right. Add to that the fact that it is the least expensive of the cards that can do 24-bit, albeit 800x600. Eventually, P5/PCI will become stable and cheap enough that I'll want to throw away the 486/VLB system I'm going to buy now. Given that this may happen in as little as a year, it pays to save as much money as possible now. My strategy is to buy top-of-the-line items that can be transplanted to a P5/PCI in a year (like the SCSI disk, monitor, CD-ROM, etc.), and to go lowball on the things that can't or shouldn't be (like the graphics and SCSI cards). Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: hiroshi@soundmind.com (Hiroshi Takahashi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: balls for mice Message-ID: <uJqNFc1w165w@soundmind.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 18:10:17 PST References: <2gc78o$i2o@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Organization: A Sound Mind Production Have you tried your friendly PC mouse supplier? ie:Logitech? They might make a ball that measures ahair over 1 inch. the Lost Cause writes: < .. see ma, I cleaned the rest off my plate .. > > Atlantic says that they have none available, and I know of no other source > for them. Anyone out there have a source for these pesky creatures that > like to take walks? Obviously, this would be preferable to just ordering > new mice entirely, since I have a shelf full of mice that would work, if > only they had their balls! > < .. Look ma, no more .. > :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: Sent by hiroshi@soundmind.com (Hiroshi Takahashi) Sent thru the Vancouver NeXT Users Society mail system.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: Re: ET4000 W32i Graphic Card. Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ) Message-ID: <1994Jan5.020542.24872@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 02:05:42 GMT References: <2gb75l$lj4@galaxy.ucr.edu> Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin Denny Chuang (chi@watserv.ucr.edu) wrote: > Anyone know if the ET4000 W32i will be able to show color under > NeXTSTEP 3.2? I know that the regular ET4000 is a 2bit grayscale > card. What about the W32i version? If you get a board with 2MB it should be able to do 1024x768 with 16 Bit (i.e. NS's 12Bit color) and maybe also 1152x832 (because would require 1872k video ram). But the problem with the /W32i boards is that all boards that I'm aware of (not much) allow 1024x768x64k mode only with an unacceptable 87Hz interlace mode (i.e. 43Hz flicker). As far as I know this is caused by cheaper RAM DAC chips on the /W32i boards. I don't know any /W32i-based board which is able tp provide 72Hz or higher and non- interlaced in this mode. Maybe the /W32p boards are better in this regard? Anyone who knows this out there? Thanks, Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin (EANTC) <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation? Message-ID: <CJ4Byu.7A3@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development References: <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 18:42:30 GMT In article <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) writes: > Does it support Multi-Session PhotoCD's? For that matter, does the NeXT > (black) CD-ROM support Multi-Session? The Apple CD300 supports multi-session PhotoCD. I believe that the NeXT CD-ROM drive only supports single-session. --bob
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all? Date: 5 Jan 1994 00:25:47 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <2gdq1r$p42@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <2fclis$kcv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> <1994Jan5.021535.14542@adobe.com> In article <1994Jan5.021535.14542@adobe.com>, Perry A. Caro <caro@mv.us.adobe.com> wrote: >Right. Add to that the fact that it is the least expensive of the cards >that can do 24-bit, albeit 800x600. > >Eventually, P5/PCI will become stable and cheap enough that I'll want >to throw away the 486/VLB system I'm going to buy now. Given that this >may happen in as little as a year, it pays to save as much money as >possible now. My strategy is to buy top-of-the-line items that can be >transplanted to a P5/PCI in a year (like the SCSI disk, monitor, >CD-ROM, etc.), and to go lowball on the things that can't or shouldn't >be (like the graphics and SCSI cards). > >Perry > >-- >caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others Right! Exactly my strategy. I bought an ati gup card off the net for about $300. I bought a scsi card off the net for about $100. Bought a 17" viewsonic monitor for <$1000 by looking through computer shopper. In a year (or more), I can buy a p5/pci system and put my harddrive in and use the monitor, and sell the other stuff. -nick
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem won't work but the mouse will Date: 5 Jan 1994 00:27:46 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <2gdq5i$p5g@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <2ga9b9$cpf@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> In article <2ga9b9$cpf@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>, Nick Kline <kline@CS.Arizona.EDU> wrote: >The mouse is on com port 1 (cufa on the next) and it works fine. I am >using the Onboard serial port driver. > >I can't get any communication to the modem in com port 2. > no one ever answers my questions but me. I suppose they are too obvious! I somehow fixed it. I upgraded from 3.1 to 3.2 and took out the serial card and (maybe?) changed something. Now the only thing left is changing the name of my system. I tried to do it through the host manager but it crashed on reboot.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: ET4000 W32i Graphic Card. Message-ID: <CJ5Con.HHs@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2gb75l$lj4@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 07:55:34 GMT In article <2gb75l$lj4@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) writes: > Anyone know if the ET4000 W32i will be able to show color under > NeXTSTEP 3.2? I know that the regular ET4000 is a 2bit grayscale > card. What about the W32i version? It doesn't show colour now ( I'm using a Hercules Dynamite Pro in ET4000 mode), but I'd be surprised if it didn't show 8 bit colour at 1024x768 and 16 at 800x600 at some point. Anything over 8bits in 1024x768 appears to use an interlace mode of 87Hz, which is flicker free by the way. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) Subject: Any experiences with IBM 0663E15 drive on a NeXT(black) Message-ID: <1994Jan4.131615.4945@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 13:16:15 GMT Hello, the subject tells everything. Any experiences welcome, even comments like "doesn't work at all", of course. I know of problems with the former(?) L12 and H12 types of this drive model, but what's with this one. I can buy a used one of this quiet cheap. Thanks in advance CIAO Volker -- ************************************************************ * Volker Safran, FB13, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * ************************************************************
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Swap Disk Setup? Message-ID: <Jan.5.03.48.52.1994.24805@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 5 Jan 94 08:48:53 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, Id like to set up a 100meg HD as a swap disk. Im sure this must be a FAQ...(aye red face)...but could some one tell me how to do this, or let me know where this FAQ can be found, or send me the FAQ? Muchas Gracias in advance. John (in disk setup hell) Kheit, Later
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: Any experiences with IBM 0663E15 drive on a NeXT(black) Message-ID: <1994Jan5.125231.25066@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <1994Jan4.131615.4945@abulafia.in-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 12:52:31 GMT In article <1994Jan4.131615.4945@abulafia.in-berlin.de> volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran) writes: > Hello, > > the subject tells everything. Any experiences welcome, even comments > like "doesn't work at all", of course. > > I know of problems with the former(?) L12 and H12 types of this drive > model, but what's with this one. I can buy a used one of this quiet > cheap. > > Thanks in advance > > CIAO Volker > -- > ************************************************************ > * Volker Safran, FB13, TU Berlin, PHONE: +49 30 4542303 * > * EMail: FAX: +49 30 4537157 * > * volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (NeXTMail very welcome)* > * safran@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (no NeXTMail, sorry) * > ************************************************************ You will have to change the page 0 mode-select options and ground the option pin at the back of the drive. Page 0 = 00 0A 40 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Pin setting for target#1 o o o o | | o o o-o o ^ |_____Option pin --Fabien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: balls for mice Message-ID: <1994Jan5.125834.25135@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <uJqNFc1w165w@soundmind.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 12:58:34 GMT In article <uJqNFc1w165w@soundmind.com> hiroshi@soundmind.com (Hiroshi Takahashi) writes: > Have you tried your friendly PC mouse supplier? ie:Logitech? > They might make a ball that measures ahair over 1 inch. > > the Lost Cause writes: > > < .. see ma, I cleaned the rest off my plate .. > > > > Atlantic says that they have none available, and I know of no other source > > for them. Anyone out there have a source for these pesky creatures that > > like to take walks? Obviously, this would be preferable to just ordering > > new mice entirely, since I have a shelf full of mice that would work, if > > only they had their balls! > > > < .. Look ma, no more .. > > > > > :-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-: > Sent by hiroshi@soundmind.com (Hiroshi Takahashi) > > Sent thru the Vancouver NeXT Users Society mail system. Same as old MacIntosh plus mouse ball. --Fabien --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all? Date: 5 Jan 1994 16:07:52 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <2geoko$4ka@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2fclis$kcv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> <1994Jan5.021535.14542@adobe.com> Perry A. Caro (caro@adobe.com) wrote: : In article <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald) writes: : >L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : > : >: One thing I don't understand is the use of ATI graphics. : >: It is pretty much universally cited as being slower than : >: several other offerings, yet builders of NS/Intel : >: systems use it fairly often. Why? Economics? : >: Hidden virtues? Hype? : > : >My graphics card of choice is still the ATI -- even if it isn't : >the fastest thing going anymore. Fact is, it's supported by more : >operating systems than any other card on the market, and it isn't : >exactly slow either (except for moving windows in NeXTStep). : Right. Add to that the fact that it is the least expensive of the cards : that can do 24-bit, albeit 800x600. What driver are you using? My copy of NS 3.2 does not have ATI 800x600x24. : Eventually, P5/PCI will become stable and cheap enough that I'll want : to throw away the 486/VLB system I'm going to buy now. Given that this : may happen in as little as a year, it pays to save as much money as : possible now. My strategy is to buy top-of-the-line items that can be : transplanted to a P5/PCI in a year (like the SCSI disk, monitor, : CD-ROM, etc.), and to go lowball on the things that can't or shouldn't : be (like the graphics and SCSI cards). Take a look at the Dell Pentiums. You can get a very nice system for 4K, with P5/PCI, 17" monitor, 16MB RAM, and double speed CD. IDE HD, though, but you could modify that. Plus it comes with the PCI #9 GXE (which you can get with 3 MB VRAM). -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem with NS/Intel recognizing MO drive Date: 5 Jan 1994 11:29:38 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <24010511313167@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> I'm having a 486 machine built for me by a local integrator and they have trouble getting NS to recognize a Fujitsu MO drive. NS thinks its a CD-ROM drive, but DOS recognizes it as a removable HD. Anyone know what to do about this? BTW, this machine has a noname MB with SIS chipset and AMI BIOS. It has an Adaptec 1540C and ATI GUP Rev 6 video board. Installation of 3.2 went smoothly and everything seems to work fine except the MO drive. I hope to have another success story to relate to the net in a couple of days when I take it home and have all the problems solved. Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Installation problem on VL-486: thread:waitForInterrupt: returns -735 Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CJ65G9.8qw@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 18:16:57 GMT Organization: University of Giessen, Germany Yeah, after succesfully installing NSfIP3.2 on a PCI machine, I got the blues today when I tried it again with an VesaLocalBus-486. I got the above mentioned error message quite early in the installation process, I believe it was the point where the SCSI-bus is reset to get access to the CD-ROM. So, what does that f***ing -735 mean??? Cheers, Karsten D. Wolf (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: utata!grisu (Gernot A. Pohl) Subject: Re: DPT SCSI controllers Message-ID: <1994Jan3.233523.12737@utata.in-berlin.de> Keywords: NSfIP, SCSI Sender: grisu@utata.in-berlin.de Organization: WY References: <BWH.93Dec26104626@beach.cis.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 23:35:23 GMT In article <BWH.93Dec26104626@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: > > Does anyone have any experiences they can relate with the DPT caching SCSI > controllers? Their ad specifically states NextStep as a supported > operating system -- is this vaporware or do drivers really exist and work? Our just arrived DPT2122/95 does it - fine! (Floppy not supported) Enjoy ... ...don t forget to configure edge-IRQ! -- [NeXT-]Mail to grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de .. viel Spasz! > Gernot Pohl \_/ Schoenhauser Allee 5
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: balls for mice Date: 5 Jan 1994 12:50:06 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401051830.AA03813@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> > Have you tried your friendly PC mouse supplier? ie:Logitech? > They might make a ball that measures ahair over 1 inch. But those balls are so light weighted, they always seem to float above the table, instead of rolling on it ;-( (Or: The day I've thrown my PC-mouse away and connected a black one to it...) Gerd
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: *** All New OD Problem ! *** Date: 5 Jan 1994 18:25:35 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2gf0mv$np8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2fmo4c$p4t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2fmo4c$p4t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) writes: > I've got a *NEW* OD problem on a VIC (Very-Important-Cube). > All of a sudden (without any gross mishandling) it refuses to accept disks. > They go in about 90% of the way and then stop at just about the point > I'm used to having them grabbed from my fingers. Once upon a time I shoved a MO disk into my OD and broke a tiny plastic piece in the drive mechanism. This resulted in exactly the symptoms you describe. No parts or service are available, and Bell Atlantic wants something like $2000 for a replacement MO drive. The drive comes apart rather easily. I suggest you take the top off and look inside. If one of the black plastic arms is broken, it will be hard to fix. It seems to be some polyethylene compound with nothing but C-H bonds. You have to stick it under UV light for a while to break some bonds on the surface before you can epoxy to it. -- Todd Takken takken@raven.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) Subject: Re: balls for mice Message-ID: <CJ63Cu.D8q@phcs.com> Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc References: <2gc78o$i2o@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 17:31:42 GMT In article <2gc78o$i2o@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> jdavidso@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu () writes: > >For some reason, I like the subject line....but I digress. > >Being the NeXT hardware type guy at this university, I am responsible for >maintaining the NeXT hardware for five classrooms, and many of the profs. >And, of course, being an .edu site, there are more than enough >student-generated problems. It was bad enough that one class thought the >logos on the front of the machines were cool collectors items, and >proceeded to remove almost all of them from the 150 machines in the . . . >new mice entirely, since I have a shelf full of mice that would work, if >only they had their balls! > >Thanks for any info. > >Jeff > Are you sure students are stealing them? Maybe they've just been connected to BSD eunuchs too long. 8^) Sorry . . . -- ___ ___ mail: uunet!phcs!jq PHCS, Inc. Advanced Technology Group / / / or jq@phcs.com It's spelled "Luxury Yacht", but it's \_/ (_\/ Voice: (617) 861-5579 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove". ) NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars Andreas Stole) Subject: Experience with Micropolis 1.7 gig, Fujitsu 1 gig., etc.? Message-ID: <1994Jan5.211734.26813@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 21:17:34 GMT I'm interested in buying a large capacity harddrive to run internally in my NeXTstation (mono, 25 Mhz.). The contenders are Fujitsu (M2694) 1050 MB, 10 ms seek $865 Micropolis (2210) 1050 MB, 10 ms seek $831 Micropolis (2217) 1750 MB, 10 ms seek $1102 Seagate (ST31200N)(1") 1050 MB, 9 ms seek $910 Seagate (ST11200N) 1050 MB, 11 ms seek $902 The prices are from SAG Electronics (1-800-989-3475), although their prices are comparable to many other mailorder companies. All drives have 3.5" scsi-2 drives with 5yr. warranties. I am most interested in 3 criteria: (i) ease of setup as an INTERNAL/BOOT hard disk, (ii) quietness of drive, (iii), reliability, etc. Any information would be greatly appreciated. -- Lars A. Stole Graduate School of Business University of Chicago 1101 E. 58th Street Chicago, IL 60637 U.S.A. 312-702-7309
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dean@n5170a.nrl.navy.mil (Dean Clamons) Subject: Replacement disk for Cube Message-ID: <CJ6Ety.80F@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 21:39:32 GMT Any recommendations for 1GB (or thereabouts) drives to replace the drive in an 040, NextDimension Cube? Thanks -- Dean Clamons Naval Research Lab Code 5110 Washington, DC 20375 (202) 767-2384 dean@n5170a.nrl.navy.mil
From: chk@data-hh.Hanse.DE (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ET4000 W32i Graphic Card. Date: 5 Jan 1994 11:58:49 +0100 Organization: DATA HAMBURG, Norderstedt, Germany - Hanse Networking e.V. Message-ID: <2ge6haINNf0@data-hh.Hanse.DE> References: <2gb75l$lj4@galaxy.ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) writes: > Anyone know if the ET4000 W32i will be able to show color under > NeXTSTEP 3.2? I know that the regular ET4000 is a 2bit grayscale > card. What about the W32i version? From the Hardware Compatibility Guide for NSfIP 3.2: [..] II. 16 Bit Color Systems [..] NEC (800) 374-8000 Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Arch. NA# _____________________________________________________________________ Image Series requires 1 MB VRAM for 800 x 600 Image Series requires 2 MB VRAM for 1024 x 768 Express Series requires 1 MB VRAM for 800 x 600 NEC Image 486es ISA 486 Local Bus ET4000 1466 W32i NEC Express II ST EISA 486 Local Bus ET4000 1467 W32 [..] II. 8 Bit Grayscale NEC (800) 374-8000 Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Arch. NA# _____________________________________________________________________ Image Series requires 1 MB VRAM for 800x600, or 1024x768, or 1120x832 Express Series requires 1 MB VRAM for 1024x768 NEC Image 486es ISA 486 Local Bus ET4000 1466 W32i NEC Express II ST EISA 486 Local Bus ET4000 1467 W32 [..] !!! BUT: TSENG LABS ET-4000W32i Vendor Model Bus Driver Graphics Resolutions Supported _____________________________________________________________________ Several Several VL-Bus Planned Q1 1994 Ask NeXT if it's out yet. Kind regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz, Grüner Weg 69c, 22851 Norderstedt, Germany +49-40-5244138, 16-23 MET, 8-16 CST, Christian.Kuhtz@data-hh.Hanse.DE "Life is that what you decide to make it..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video From: nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker) Subject: miroCrystal 32S info please Message-ID: <CJ6G5F.I0L@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 22:08:03 GMT Greetings Net People! Has anybody experience or know anything about the miroCrystal 32S video board (PCI bus)? I'm thinking of getting one for a new NS/FIP machine. Any info would be appreciated. Nick W. -- Nicholas J Walker nick@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-3677 Pager: (415) 424-7335
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: That 1400x1024 video card? Message-ID: <Jan.5.23.39.25.1994.29117@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 6 Jan 94 04:39:25 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi all, Im in the market for yet another video card... -BTW, FYI a Nice Super EISA Rev 1 MB does NOT work with a STB Pegasus, something about the VLB slot and SIS chip set, blah, blah, blah... -Also, I called up #9 and they couldn't guarantee that their 4meg VLB card would work with an EISA/VLB MB with SIS chipset either, although their ISA version of the card will, and they say the ISA version is only about 8% slower than the VLB version???? Whats wrong with that picture? Has anyone tried this #9 (i think its called level 14) video card with a Nice Super EISA rev 1 MB? If so, could you please let me know how it worked out! Anyway, so Im thinking about getting that sweedish or german, or etc... video card that does 1408X1024@16bit & 1024X768@32bit. Also, some one was telling me that this company may have a card that can do 1600X1200@32bit, anyone know about this card? Anyhow, could some one please tell me the name of the company, the name of the board and a phone number where I can get a hold of this board for ordering. Thanks for any/all info, in advance Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: Pinouts for Next B&W monitor Message-ID: <1994Jan6.005004.1295@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <3542@deadmin.ucsd.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 00:50:04 GMT In article <3542@deadmin.ucsd.edu> bense@heart3.ucsd.edu (Booker C. Bense) writes: > > - Does anyone have the pinouts of the D19 connector used > for the NeXT B&W monitors? I have an old cube I'd like > to use as a headless server. > > - thanks > > - Booker 10 1 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 19 11 Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 +12V 11 +12V 2 -12V 12 -12V 3 MON CLK 13 GND 4 MON DATA OUT 14 GND 5 MON DATA IN 15 GND 6 MON PWR SWITCH 16 GND 7 NC 17 GND 8 VSYNC 18 GND 9 HSYNC 19 GND 10 VIDEO Now, would someone kindly give instructions for a headless mono-NeXTstation? Brad -- Bradley Head Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted) 604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
From: tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Ts'o) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No SB16 support ? Date: 6 Jan 1994 07:16:45 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx Message-ID: <2ggdst$mhm@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> It seems that the PAS-16 is the only popular sound card supported under NSi 3.2. Is this true, and is there a reason why the SB16 isn't supported or just that the drivers haven't been written yet ? Thanks. Cheers, Dan Ts'o Div. Neuroscience 713-798-3331 Baylor College of Medicine 1 Baylor Plaza S603 dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Houston, TX 77030 tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
From: kevin@rodin.wustl.edu (Kevin Ruland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for UltraStor device driver for NextStep 3.2 Date: 5 Jan 1994 16:32:19 GMT Organization: Center for Optimization and Semantic Control, Washington University Message-ID: <2geq2j$bok@foo.wustl.edu> Does anyone know if there is a device driver for the UltraStor 34f SCSI card under NextStep 3.2? Kevin Ruland kevin@rodin.wustl.edu
From: jtod@access.netaxs.com (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: balls for mice Date: 4 Jan 1994 23:44:22 GMT Organization: Net Access - Philadelphia's Internet Connection Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gcv0m$omo@netaxs.com> References: <2gc78o$i2o@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> theLostCause wrote: : For some reason, I like the subject line....but I digress. : Being the NeXT hardware type guy at this university, I am responsible for : maintaining the NeXT hardware for five classrooms, and many of the profs. : And, of course, being an .edu site, there are more than enough : student-generated problems. It was bad enough that one class thought the : logos on the front of the machines were cool collectors items, and : proceeded to remove almost all of them from the 150 machines in the : classrooms; now I have to cope with the mice balls taking a walk. Bell : Atlantic says that they have none available, and I know of no other source : for them. Anyone out there have a source for these pesky creatures that : like to take walks? Obviously, this would be preferable to just ordering : new mice entirely, since I have a shelf full of mice that would work, if : only they had their balls! Sure - the balls from Microsoft mice work just fine, and I am fairly sure that the balls from Logitech standard mice work as well. I've got one here that I pulled out of a Logitech, and it's exactly the same weight, size, and latex cover material as the NeXT mouse ball. In fact, if I had to guess, I'd say they came from the same place. (My mouse = old non-adb mouse) I'm speaking about the "normal" Logitech mouse - plain old three button deal. Not some super-fancy Euro-grip 4-mile range cordless nitro-powered vacuum assist mouse. -- John Todd | Need Job: Can sell NeXTs/cars, fix same| NRA & Pro-Choice 430 Dundee Drive | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo Blue Bell PA 19422| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused 215/646-5883 | USGS coord: 40d08m02s Lat 75d15m28s Lon | jtod@digex.net
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupt Date: 6 Jan 1994 16:47:40 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ghfbc$96c@news.tamu.edu> References: <1993Dec30.182325.5797@news.arc.nasa.gov> Keywords: spurious DMA interrupt,ethernet In article <1993Dec30.182325.5797@news.arc.nasa.gov> woo@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo RAA) writes: | | I am getting the following error message from a 25MHz 68040 | NeXTCube with 16MB of memory and no optical drive. | | mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110 | | Can anyone tell me what this means? | | Thanks. | woo@playfair.stanford.edu | ======================================================================== | Alex Woo, MS 227-6 woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov | NASA Ames Research Center __o NASAMAIL ACWOO | Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 -\<, SPANET 24582::WOO | (415) 604-6010 (FAX) 604-4357 .....O/ O {hplabs,decwrl,uunet}!ames!woo | ======================================================================== | Disclaimer: These comments are not official statements of NASA or EMCC. | ======================================================================== From my experience, it means one of two things: you got a bad motherboard, or your ethernet is too heavily loaded (which NeXTs do not handle very gracefully, unfortunately). Put a network analyzer on your ethernet to see if someone's spraying or doing "broadcast all" or maybe there are a lot of invalid packets, a sign of loose connections etc. If you don't have access to a network analyzer try ping and netstat (see the man pages). Have your network technician check your segment length with a reflectometer too--it's amazing how "just one more machine" on a piece of coax can exceed the ethernet spec. Oh, also see if you can get on a subnet behind a router to shield your NeXT from irrelevant traffic. Good luck! -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: lucas@blkbox.COM (Lucas C. Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Just get an Apple PowerCD (was Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation?) Date: 6 Jan 1994 16:40:59 GMT Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <2gheur$hao@uuneo.NeoSoft.com> References: <2g8ktoINN3l0@xs4all.hacktic.nl> <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com> <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Works nicely on mine - I have a NeXTCube '030 with an Apple PowerCD which I use between platforms. PowerCD does audio, data, and has a PhotoCD capabilities. It comes with 4 CDs, which are PhotoCD stuff and "Clinton: Portrait of Victory" or something like that. I don't use my CD-ROM much, but the PowerCD was a better deal for me. Sure, it is slower than the NEC triple-spin drive, but it sure looks nice beside both my black and white hardware and was an overall better deal. It even comes with a remote control - I have it hooked up to many things at once..... :) NOTE: If you have below a NeXT Turbo Station, you have to install the CD-ROM utilities on a disk. This presents a problem for NeXTCube 030 owners who don't even have a floppy disk drive. (Likewise, if someone would NeXTmail/uuencode me the CD-ROM utilities, I would appreciate it - trying to get NeXTSTEP 3.0 installed!) Just thought I'd contribute my $.02 on a k3w1 product. Lucas -- -- Lucas C. Wagner lucas@blkbox.com (NeXTmail accepted) Tangent Software Development Voice: (409)-273-3140 "NeXT black hardware will never die."
From: mbecker@cs.uml.edu (Mark E. Becker) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help.. Very weird SCSI problem [ NS 2.1, 030 mono cube ] Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 6 Jan 1994 17:05:29 GMT Organization: Approaching zero with this problem. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ghgcp$ept@ulowell.uml.edu> Summary: Data read from drive is off by one??? Keywords: SCSI hardware NextSTEP 2.1 Hello - Pardon the wide cross-posting.. but this problem crosses so many boundaries that I'm looking for help from everywhere. Equipment: '030 cube, NS 2.1, 8M, 345M internal hard drive, 155M external, single OD. Problem: Last night I'm transferring files from a PC to the NeXT via ethernet. After moving about 5 megabytes, I find (the hard way) what seems to be an off-by-one problem somewhere on the NeXT end of the wire. For random places ONLY in the external drive, if a block of data is written out and then read back, the block just read has a byte inserted randomly inside it. The number of bytes returned is correct.. just everything is shifted down by one. Fortunately there wasn't much stored on the external drive; I was able to clean it off to OD. The internal drive is 100%; data written to it is returned clean. This is one of the weirdest problems I've ever seen. What blows my mind is that the inserted byte doesn't generate an error message. What can I do about this? 1. I've already had to change the formatting from 512 to 1024 bytes/sector. There weren't any reported errors then.. but then again, the formatter didn't go back and verify the media. 2. There were no problems in initializing the drive. But I don't think the supplied NeXT software does anything relative to a surface scan. Is there anything for finding and marking bad blocks under NS 2.1 ? 3. While spelunking the on-line help and various directories (/etc, /usr/etc..), I didn't find anything resembling a badblocks program. Does one exist? A long time ago I wrote a formatter for a SASI drive running against a CP/M system. One of the SASI commands was to verify the media.. which consisted of reading every block on the drive and returning an error status. While I could probably re-write that ancient chunk of code to run under NS 2.1, does something similiar already exist? Regards, Mark +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ | Mark Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> | #include <std.disclaimer>| +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanners experience? Date: 6 Jan 1994 17:15:31 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2ghgvj$pmp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Hi, I'm on the lookout for scanners/sw for my slab. I'd appreciate any stories/experiences etc whatsoever. Wouldn't appreciate but will probably read advertisements. Thanks Robert ===================================================================== ________________ ---- | | |-\_ Robert de Lucca ---- | LIFE | |_|_\ \o/ Johns Hopkins U. ---- | |_| | | Asciimail: gaia@wam.umd.edu ^^oo^^^^^^^^^oo^^^ o^^o^ / \ Nextmail:rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu =====================================================================
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jonathan Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS and TriStar Pentium/PCI CAD stations? Date: 6 Jan 1994 10:34:52 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2ghejc$hrf@cobber.cord.edu> I've been looking at TriStar systems for some time now for CAD and 3D modelling/animation. With the new CAD/3D software coming out for NEXTSTEP my interest in TriStar has been renewed. The hi-end systems are Pentium/PCI with 32Mb ram and Matrox/MGA video with 4Mb vram. I don't think there are drivers for the Matrox but I can use the card for my current DOS software. Before investing a large amount on a hi-end system I'd like to be assured that NEXTSTEP will run on it. TriStar uses an Intel motherboard and Intel BIOS. This should be in my favor. There was a post last month from a colleage about the same system but the follow-ups have already been expired by the news-server. I'd love for reposts. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker) Subject: Re: Pinouts for Next B&W monitor In-Reply-To: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca's message of Thu, 6 Jan 1994 00:50:04 GMT Message-ID: <HUGH.94Jan6113105@hodain.ci.net> Sender: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker) Organization: JTA References: <3542@deadmin.ucsd.edu> <1994Jan6.005004.1295@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 16:31:05 GMT In article <1994Jan6.005004.1295@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes: In article <3542@deadmin.ucsd.edu> bense@heart3.ucsd.edu (Booker C. Bense) writes: > > - Does anyone have the pinouts of the D19 connector used > for the NeXT B&W monitors? I have an old cube I'd like > to use as a headless server. > 10 1 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 19 11 Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 +12V 11 +12V 2 -12V 12 -12V 3 MON CLK 13 GND 4 MON DATA OUT 14 GND 5 MON DATA IN 15 GND 6 MON PWR SWITCH 16 GND 7 NC 17 GND 8 VSYNC 18 GND 9 HSYNC 19 GND 10 VIDEO Now, would someone kindly give instructions for a headless mono-NeXTstation? In the NeXT monitor, use the p command and set the flag that allows Port A to act as an alternate console. Connect a console/terminal to Port A (9600 baud). Wire up a momentary switch to a male D19 connector so it connects pins 6 and 16. Connect your D19-switch to the NeXTstation. Apply mains power and press the switch. Disclaimer: With the exception of having a working terminal on Port A, I've done all of the above resulting in a successful headless boot. DISCLAIMER: If you connect other pins by mistake you can wreck things electrical, and that's your problem. If anything goes wrong while you follow these directions, that's your problem. Hugh -- Hugh Secker-Walker | hugh@hodain.ci.net (NeXTmail ok) Perceptual Acoustics | hugh@ear.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) Subject: DPT and ATI EISA cards cooperate Message-ID: <CJ7yI4.LIt@netnews.jhuapl.edu> Keywords: DPT, ATI, Sender: usenet@netnews.jhuapl.edu Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 17:42:04 GMT I was wondering if any one out there has had any trouble using a DPT EISA card with the ATI EISA card in a DELL DE model. I tried an Adaptec 1542C but that caused enough problems that any scsi device would be useless. ---------------------------------------------------- Otto "Apes don't read philoshpy" Wanda "Yes they do, they just don't understand it" ----------------------------------------------------
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting an 030 without a monitor Date: 6 Jan 1994 18:03:05 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ghjop$emr@news.tamu.edu> References: <2fv80p$rk7@vesta.unm.edu> Keywords: monitorless 030 NeXT In article <2fv80p$rk7@vesta.unm.edu> onyxcat@unm.edu (The Onyx Kitten) writes: | I'm trying to boot an 030 board, without the MegaPixel. The 030 is in my | cube, and I have no other cube boards. | | I've tried sticking a 450 Ohm resistor between pins 6 (power switch) and | 13 (common ground) of the DB-19 monitor out. It "tries" to boot, | but won't (every 2 seconds you hear a 'click', but it doesn't get anywhere). | | I have a MexaPixel to plug into it, but if you pull the cord, the machine | powers down. NeXTStation 040 slabs handle this no prob., too bad 030's | don't. | The problem is that early serial number power supplies require the MegaPixel current load. You can either buy a new late model power supply or make a dummy load out of power resistors :-). (How about making a desk lamp out of 5V and 12V light bulbs???) | Also - I'm looking for pin out specifications for both the 96 pin Cube | NeXTBUS (I think NeXT part #N6010 is the docs for this), Yes, that's the doc you need. Give me a fax number and I'll send you the pinout. | and also the NeXTStation Power Inputs (the 12 wires | from the slab Sony PS). No one I've talked to seems to know this stuff... | Can't help there. | Anyone who can help me out will have a NeXT hardware hacker eternally | grateful to them ;-) - Thanks Netters... | | Cliff | onyxcat@unm.edu -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ELSA Winner 1000 Device Driver ?? Date: 6 Jan 1994 18:33:28 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2ghlhp$h2f@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hi NetLand! I've installed an ELSA Winner 1000 VLB in my 50 MHz 486 NS. This Video-Card has a S3 928 Prozessor and a RAMDAC called SC 15025. The S3 Video-Card driver only support RAMDACs BT484, BT485 and BT485a. Neverless using the driver has the result, showing two screens on one Monitor, one screen is seen half and the other is seen zoomed by factor 3 to 5. I called ELSA in Aachen/Germany and asked, if they work on a driver for NeXTSTEP, but they said, they send all technical data of their cards to NEXT. So did anybody heard of new drivers for S3 Cards with SC15025 RAMDACs?? The card has a good VLBus performance, a performance test program under DOS said: Transferrate is 47 MByte/s this means around 50 8bit Fullscreen (1028x768) pics per second!! So who heard of such a driver?? Thank you, Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty) Subject: Connecting an HP DeskJet 550C to NeXT Turbo Slab Message-ID: <1994Jan6.184035.9099@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Washington State University Date: Thu, 6 Jan 94 18:40:35 GMT What are the issues associated with connecting an HP DeskJet 550c color printer to my turbo slab? What do I need in the way of cables and or software drivers? Please email responses as I do not follow this newsgroup too often. -- Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger Office:(509)-335-4053 Assistant Professor FAX:(509)-335-3818 School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-2752
From: jeanpaul@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Jean-Paul Smeets) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help.. Very weird SCSI problem [ NS 2.1, 030 mono cube ] Date: 6 Jan 1994 20:18:05 GMT Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands. Message-ID: <2ghrlt$ji@tuegate.tue.nl> References: <2ghgcp$ept@ulowell.uml.edu> Keywords: SCSI hardware NextSTEP 2.1 In article <2ghgcp$ept@ulowell.uml.edu>, Mark E. Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> wrote: >For random places ONLY in the external drive, if a block of data is >written out and then read back, the block just read has a byte >inserted randomly inside it. The number of bytes returned is >correct.. just everything is shifted down by one. > Is the drive by any chance a HP drive ? I have had a similar problem with a HP disk drive under OS/2 and was also puzzled by it. The cause of this was a bug in the HP firmware when disconnect/reconnect was used. In this case the number of bytes read was also correct but at random 512 byte boundaries errors occurred. The error was always that one byte of data was replaced with 0x80 bytes of random data, mostly 0xFF. The solution was to disable disconnect/reconnect in the device driver. Since then everything works perfectly, but somewhat slower. Jean-Paul Smeets Email: jeanpaul@stack.urc.tue.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: Installing hard drive question-- Message-ID: <1994Jan6.204347.10453@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Zymurgy, UW Date: Thu, 6 Jan 94 20:43:47 GMT Hi netters: I went out and picked up a new hard disk for my NSFIP machine yesterday; supposedly a 245mb disk (a maxtor 7245A drive). I plugged it in all correctly, and booted up. After configuring the CMOS with all the proper numbers, nextstep boots up and tells me that the hard drive is "damaged", so i initialize it. problem: It only gives me ~210mb free (i forget exactly how much, but it's nowhere near 245)! The only files on it are the lost&found and the .hidden. Fdisk tells me that the drive is only something like 213 mb; does this mean that it will format only in DOS to 245mb? any advice? danke dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rnielsen@everest.com (Robert D. Nielsen) Subject: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CJ6wDs.FsI@pdh.com> Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account) Organization: PDH, Inc. Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 03:58:39 GMT Greetings All, I have given up on buying a high end machine listed in NeXT Hardware Compatibility Guide. It seems the only things that are listed are not very high end. So.. I have decided to buy the best possible machine that money can buy and try to make it work. Pentium 66 with PCI/EISA bus PCI fast-SCSI-2 card (NCR ? with driver from Talus) PCI video card (Diamond Viper? with driver from NeXT) [other standard stuff] So far, the above is the real problem. All the systems I have called on do not have PCI SCSI (I have not called Dell). Also, according to the NeXT Hardware Compatibility Guide, the VLB Diamond Viper will be supported Q1 of 94 - Does this also mean the PCI version will also be supported?) I would like to know what the net thinks the best machine is (money is no object). Is there a Pentium-66 motherboard with PCI and EISA? Is there _a_ supported PCI SCSI-2 daughter card? Is the PCI Diamond Viper daughter card supported? Cheers, Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Just get an Apple PowerCD (was Re: Apple CD-300 with NeXTstation?) Message-ID: <1994Jan6.212206.2631@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <CJ2MqC.1pz@lotus.com> <2gbsid$5q7@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <2gheur$hao@uuneo.NeoSoft.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 21:22:06 GMT <<glowing endorsement of PowerCD deleted>> While I certainly agree that the PowerCD is wicked spiff, keep in mind that it's half the speed of an Apple CD-300. If you use your CD-ROM to install lots of software, use it to get at Photo-CDs, and play CD-ROM based games on your Mac when it's not hooked to a NeXT, the 300 is the better way to go. If you want a better looking, more portable solution, the PowerCD is the way to go. Apple should be releasing a PowerCD based on the fast mechanism sometime this year. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: rjg@chemistry.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI Date: 6 Jan 1994 22:08:23 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2gi24n$7h8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Replies-To: rjg@chemistry.Stanford.EDU Originator: rjg@chemistry.Stanford.EDU Originator: rjg@leland.Stanford.EDU A friend of mine can't mount his SCSI disk on a next machine. On a DECstation there is a command test -c that you type before boot-up to see if the machine knows about all its SCSI devices. Is there a similar command on a next machine? Please respond via e-mail (rjg@chemistry.Stanford.EDU). Thanks, Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Subject: Dell Dimension XPS Pentium work with NS Message-ID: <CJ8Aty.9DB@unix.portal.com> Summary: trying to install NS on Dell XPS 60 Pentium system Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 22:08:19 GMT Just a quick question. Does anyone know if Dell Dimension XPS Pentium will run NS? Thanks Brad Wright wwright@shell.portal.com wwright@premisys.com
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <Jan.6.18.34.30.1994.3575@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 6 Jan 94 23:34:30 GMT References: <CJ6wDs.FsI@pdh.com> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. rnielsen@everest.com (Robert D. Nielsen) writes: >I would like to know what the net thinks the best machine is (money is no >object). I dont know what you time table on buying this system is, but if money is no object, maybe you should wait for the HP port (comming real soon) or the SUN port a bit more down the line. The HP high end machines make the pentium look weak, but you'll pay nose bleed prices for them. Later, John
From: sbonsib@data.cac.stratus.com (Steve Bonsib) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Information about the forthcoming Diamond Viper driver? Date: 7 Jan 1994 00:47:45 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2gibfh$3ut@transfer.stratus.com> I have talked to my sources at NeXT and they say that the Diamond Viper people are developing their own driver either internally or have contracted a 3rd party to do the work. Does anybody have a line into the Diamond Viper manufacturer that could give me information as to when the driver might be available? Thanks in advance... --Steve Steve Bonsib sbonsib@cac.stratus.com Stratus Computer Marlboro Mass
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: STB Pegasus at 1024x768 color Date: 7 Jan 1994 01:01:25 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2gic95$lo5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> To all NEXTSTEP owners using the STB Pegasus: There is a way to get this card to work at 1024x768 in 12 bit color using the #9 driver. Select the #9 driver under Configure.app, and change the base address to that used by the S3 driver, 3c00000, I believe. Under DOS, configure the card to work at the lowest speed, 50 MHz, and disable the Read Ahead Cache. Using these settings, I have been able to get NEXTSTEP at 1024x768, with acceptable performance. This should help until the official drivers to support this card are released. Please, NeXT, any time now! :-) E-mail with any problems. Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: PAS --16 sound repeating Message-ID: <1994Jan7.011723.17006@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 01:17:23 GMT I have an EISA/VESA machine with Adaptec 1542B and PAS/16 sound card. Under DOS and windows applications, the PAS-16 sometimes has "interrupt-itis" where it continually repeats slices of a sound as it progresses through the sound. This setup usually works fine for NS but I have heard the same problem one time. com and lpt in the usual places Sound Blaster DMA 1 Intr 5 Floppy DMA 2 Intr 6 Ether Express DMA Intr 10 Adaptec SCSI DMA 5 Intr 11 PAS-16 DAM 7 Intr 12 Any ideas? <joe> -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Any 15" or larger Monochrome Displays for NSFIP? Message-ID: <1994Jan7.012657.8415@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 01:26:57 GMT I'm looking for a monitor 15" or greater that supports at minimum 1024X768 resolution. Must be monochrome. Colour displays need not apply. If anyone can direct me to any manufacturers of such a display, I would greatly appreciate it. The display is to run 1024X768 8bit greyscale on Dell Dimension XPS with #9GXE-VL card. Thanks in advance. -- Bradley Head Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted) 604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc From: machang@llewella.uchicago.edu (Andrew ChinKwang Chang) Subject: Modem recommandations for NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Jan7.031729.19920@midway.uchicago.edu> Keywords: NeXT, modem Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 03:17:29 GMT I'm looking for a modem or FAX modem for my NeXT. Not many modems were mentioned in the NeXT-FAQ. So I'd like to hear from the people who have experience of modem and modem setup. I'll be using the NeXT at home and dial into the campus computer system. I may setup SLIP or UUCP (I need to check the campus computing center). Thank you for your help and information. -Andrew
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John "Kzin" Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ProAudio 16 Basic Message-ID: <129752@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 7 Jan 94 03:40:20 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Has anyone noticed the new PA16 Basic? It looks basically like the PASpectrum 16, without the scsi adaptor.. it says it's supported by NEXTSTEP right on the package.. thing is, it's only $20 or $30 less than a PAS16.. So I'm not sure what value it has in comparison.. If anyone has heard of it, do you know if it uses the same NEXTSTEP driver as the Spectrum, or does it come with it's own NS driver? It says it has a standard PC game port.. I'm wondering if the thrustmaster will work with it.. Since I'd like to get a joystick for my dos games.. (no, I don't expect the joystick to be supported by NEXTSTEP). Anyways, any info would be appreciated.. and I thought I'd let people know in case they want to add the card for their Next system, and want to save the $20 bucks. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) ===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.============== "Discussing whether or not computers can think is about as interesting as discussing whether or not submarines can swim." -- Dijkstra
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS v3.2, v3.1 & v3.0 For Sale!!! ... REDUCED!!! Date: Thu, 06 Jan 94 22:01:47 -0600 Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2966997568.2.p00378@psilink.com> I have three (3) versions of NeXTstep OS CDs for sale: 0) - NeXTstep for Intel v3.2 a. One (1) User CD b. One (1) Developer CD c. Accompanying Material: * "3.2 Release Notes" * "Upgrading To NeXTstep Release 3.2" * "Installing & Configuring NeXTstep Rel 3.2 For Intel Processors" * "3.2 Supplemental Release" * All in original packing Price: $650.00 1) - NeXTstep for Intel v3.1 a. One (1) User CD b. One (1) Developer CD Price: $350.00 OBO 2) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.1 a. One (1) User CD b. One (1) Developer CD Price: $300.00 OBO 3) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.0 a. One (1) User and Developer CD Price: $150.00 OBO All versions come with the full and complete versions. In other words these are not student, demo or evaluation versions. Also, all CDs may be registered to the new owner without hassle or apprehension. Prices do not include shipping which will happen via Federal Express 2nd Day C.O.D. Thanks. Peace, James Message-Id: <2966768590.3.p00378@psilink.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 06:29:59 -0600 From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Organization: GCC Subject: NS 3.1 & 3.0 FOR SALE! Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software I have two versions of NeXTstep OS CDs for sale: 1) - NeXTstep for Intel v3.1 (WHITE HARDWARE) a. One (1) User CD b. One (1) Developer CD Price: $600.00 or OBO 2) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.1 (BLACK HARDWARE) a. One (1) User CD b. One (1) Developer CD Price: $550.00 or OBO 3) - NeXTstep for Motorola v3.0 (BLACK HARDWARE) a. One (1) User CD b. One (1) Developer CD Price: $200.00 or OBO 4) - NeXTstep v3.1 Original Hardcopy Documentation a. One (1): Received at 1993 SF NeXTExpo Price: $200.00 or OBO All items above are the full and complete versions. In other words these are not student, demo or evaluation versions. Also, all CDs may be registered to the new owner without hassle or apprehension. Prices do not include shipping which will happen via Federal Express 2nd Day C.O.D. Thanks. Peace, James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: Re: miroCrystal 32S info please Message-ID: <1994Jan6.142040.8163@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CJ6G5F.I0L@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 14:20:40 GMT In article <CJ6G5F.I0L@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker) writes: > > Greetings Net People! > > Has anybody experience or know anything about the miroCrystal 32S video > board (PCI bus)? I'm thinking of getting one for a new NS/FIP I have tested the VLB version of the card, at 1280x1024x16 bit. Worked well, but not that much faster than an ATI at lower resolutions. Nevertheless, it was beautiful to see all those icons! I have also tested at 1024x768x16bit, without problems. I did have a problem with an 8 bit greyscale mode, but I don't know if the problem was with the driver or elsewhere... I should also add that I have found the company to be extremely responsive, in technical and administrative support. It's great to see a company investing in NEXTSTEP technology by paying for their own NEXTSTEP driver! One word of caution, this card is not compatible with some monitors (which surprised me) --I was trying to installed NS on an NEC 15 inch monitor, but it would not work. Later, I tried to run NeXT's standard VGA driver with this card (640x480), but it did not work... I switched to a Sony 17SE, and it worked... I'm not sure why, but hope to find out soon. Take care, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware From: markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (Markus Stoll) Subject: AudioCD and Apple CD150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <1994Jan6.134912.7312@isolde.stgt.sub.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: GbR Stoll & Stoeffler, Stuttgart, Germany Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 13:49:12 GMT Karsten Wolf (g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de) claimed: > Audio-CDs donït play on Intel-Box with Apple-CD 150 Well, they dont play with CDPlayer.app on any NeXT. L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote: > Hmmm. I bought an Apple CD150 (on sale for $150) which > *seems* to be a white NeXT CD-ROM drive. But CDPlayer > does not work with it (it did w/ NeXT drive). Apparently I'm not the only one with an Apple CD150, who wants to play Audio-CDs. I wrote a very basic audio-CD-player for it. Unfortunately, I'm very busy right now. In february I will make a real CD-player out of it. If you guys cant wait and are willing to put up with this basic version (which allows start, stop, skipping tracks and shows actual track, index and time), i can place it on some ftp-servers. -- Markus Stoll, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail preferred) stoll@vaxph.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NSi & 1024b/s disks... Message-ID: <Jan.7.01.38.41.1994.21740@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 7 Jan 94 06:38:42 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Its come to my attention that NSi will not work on a 1024b/s formatted disk. At least the install wont. WHY! Im going to try and attatch a 1024b/s disk onto an already running NSi machine and see if BuildDisk will work on it. Does anyone have any experience with this? Anyway, Ill post my BuildDisk results later. Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: miroCrystal 32S info please Message-ID: <1994Jan6.203331.553@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH References: <CJ6G5F.I0L@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 94 20:33:31 GMT In article <CJ6G5F.I0L@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker) writes: > > Has anybody experience or know anything about the miroCrystal 32S video > board (PCI bus)? I'm thinking of getting one for a new NS/FIP machine. Any > info would be appreciated. > It is probably the best choice for a PCI video board that supports very high resolutions. But make sure that you get the special NEXTSTEP drivers from miro. Wilfried Beeck d'ART Software GmbH
From: Jakob Schlyter <jakob@jazz.trillium.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Conflict between AHA-1542C and PAS-16? Message-ID: <940107.101034.8k9.rusnews.w165w@jazz.trillium.se> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 10:10:34 cet Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Tradeshill Computer & Jazz, Floda/Sweden I would like to check out weather anyone has any problems with running an Adaptec AHA-1542C and a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 together. I've seen that the Linux Hardware Guide claims that NextStep crash with this configuration. I would be very glad if somebody who has this combination running could drop me an e-mail (I don't read comp.sys.next.hardware) so I could order my copy of NextStep. So, please reply by e-mail. /Jakob -- Jakob Schlyter Email: jakob@jazz.trillium.se Scire tuum nihil est, nisi Phone: +46-302-36362 te scire hoc sciat alter? Snailmail: Tradeshill 2885, S-448 91 Floda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video From: tc152678@hkpu01.hkp.hk (H C Yiu (ITC)) Subject: Re: W32i Support for NeXTStep Message-ID: <CJ9136.n3I@cpccspc.cphk.hk> Sender: usenet@cpccspc.cphk.hk Organization: Hong Kong Polytechnic Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 07:35:30 GMT Hi all NeXT expert, I am considering to buy a W32i in the near future for its quite good performance under OS/2 and Windows. but have heard the rumor that Next is going to support this card ? Am I correct ?
From: jnicolas@athena.mit.edu (Julien J Nicolas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Best places to buy memory (cheap)? Date: 7 Jan 1994 11:42:30 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: usa Message-ID: <JNICOLAS.94Jan7064230@puttanesca.mit.edu> Looking for recommendations on where to get cheap simms. Especially interested in the price of 8 and 16 meg 72pin varieties. CSNA lists 4 companies. The lowest price I have found for 8 meg simms is $274 (Chip Merchant) and 16 meg is $536 (First Tech). Have people found cheaper places? Thanks in advance, Julien Nicolas jnicolas@mit.edu
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Date: 7 Jan 1994 14:51:45 +0200 Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2gjlt1$8i4@cc.tut.fi> References: <CJ6wDs.FsI@pdh.com> <Jan.6.18.34.30.1994.3575@gandalf.rutgers.edu> In article <Jan.6.18.34.30.1994.3575@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >I dont know what you time table on buying this system is, but if money is no >object, maybe you should wait for the HP port (comming real soon) or the SUN >port a bit more down the line. The HP high end machines make the pentium >look weak, but you'll pay nose bleed prices for them. How sure this HP thing is? I did read about it (I believe it was NeXTworld August 93), but there wasn't any spesific time schedule. When is it supposed to be released? Are there any preliminary information regarding the HP port? -Juha -- Doctor, doctor! I suck. You've gotta help me.
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PAS --16 sound repeating Date: 7 Jan 1994 14:57:37 +0200 Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2gjm81$8u8@cc.tut.fi> References: <1994Jan7.011723.17006@FreemanSoft.com> In article <1994Jan7.011723.17006@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com writes: >I have an EISA/VESA machine with Adaptec 1542B and PAS/16 sound card. >Under DOS and windows applications, the PAS-16 sometimes has >"interrupt-itis" where it continually repeats slices of a sound as it >progresses through the sound. This setup usually works fine for NS but I >have heard the same problem one time. I don't know about PAS16, but in some audio cards there's a bit that makes the card repeat the fifo register if the host cannot respond to data request. This usually happens when host is under heavy IO load (disk activity etc.). I believe this is what happens with PAS16, too. The repeat feature is usually enabled to avoid annoying pops (well, repeating a part of a sample is annoying, too, imho...). -Juha -- Doctor, doctor! I suck. You've gotta help me.
From: thome@muadip.cs.tu-berlin.de (Stefan Thome) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No pCD with Toshiba CDROM? Date: 7 Jan 1994 14:27:26 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2gjrge$610@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Toshiba PhotoCD Hi, as I read on the net, there are some owners of Toshiba CDROM drives. Since it is the only drive which one can read audio cds on black hardware, I thought it might be wise to get one of those. Now I realize that I can't read PhotoCDs. The PhotoCD gets ejected after I insert it. With NS3.0 the console just says "Disk is Write Protected". No error message. With NS3.2 it adds "probing for CDROM,DOS,mac,cdaudio" but still ejects then. I cannot believe that all Toshiba owners accept that without complaining on the net? Is there something I missed? I tried pCD, but it expects that the PhotoCD has been mounted at root ? Who would be responsible for mounting? CDROM.util? Or is there some PhotoCD.util I miss? Help! Thanks, Stefan --- __________________________________________________________ _________ Technische Universitaet Berlin (_______ \ __ Stefan Thome, FR 3-2 fax: +49.30.314 25 390 -- / // / Franklinstr. 28-29 phone: +49.30.314 25 390 / / / // / D-10587 Berlin e-mail: thome@cs.tu-berlin.de -- \//_/ __________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Jim Pierce <jim.pierce@columbiaSC.NCR.COM> Subject: Re: Help.. Very weird SCSI problem [ NS 2.1, 030 mono cube ] Message-ID: <CJ9HJz.8D7@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (news) Organization: NCR Columbia References: <2ghgcp$ept@ulowell.uml.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 13:31:10 GMT >In article <2ghgcp$ept@ulowell.uml.edu> Mark E. Becker writes: > [stuff deleted] Mark -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.laptops From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) Subject: Usable Laptops for NextStep/Linux (summary) Message-ID: <1994Jan7.151649.19702@ens.fr> Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System) Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 15:16:49 GMT A while ago, I posted a message to the net asking for some help in doing a broad comparison among the portables from well known firms, regarding in particular power, ease of use, battery life, screen quality, upgradability, and, of course, price... The goal was to identify the best or more convenient machine for running not just Windows, but also a more serious operating system like Unix or NextStep. Many people have answered with helpful information, and I would like here to thank them all, before drawing some conclusions (that are my only responsibility, of course): they are Michael Graff, Robert Kedoin, Nick Ruprecht and Brandon Milner. If you have any information to add, please take this list and update it as necessary (I would really like to get an e-mail copy in that case). Basically, the following laptop systems from known brands seem to be able to run properly either Linux or NextStep. * Nec Versa Ultralite 33 Runs NextStep Linux ? memory expandable up to 32 megs, disk up to 250 example price: 486DX33 NEC VERSA 180MB hard drive & 8 Meg Ram, active color = $4705 from CDW 1800-473-4CDW - 14.4 modem - includes Microsoft Office for Windows - includes WinFax lite * Ibm ThinkPad 750 Runs Linux (but buggy: no floppy, no PCMCIA) Next Step ? memory up to 20Meg, disk up to 340 example price: 750 mono 170M 9545-006 3,199 750 mono 340M 9545-008 3,749 750Cs passive color 170M 9545-206 3,899 750Cs passive color 340M 9545-208 4,449 750C active color 170M 9545-306 4,699 750C active color 340M 9545-308 5,249 Dock I 3545-001 899 * Ast Powerexec/DecPC 425SL Runs Linux Runs NextStep memory up to 32Meg (discard the first 4MB and adding two 16MB mod), disk up to 200 example price: DECpc425SL, 4MB/200MB, monochrome, incl. trackball, carrying bag, MS-DOS, Windows, Fax- and Modem software DM 3904 (dunno the US price) * TI-TravelMate-4000 DX2/50 Runs NextStep (sloppy: installation by removing the IDE drive and installing it in a desktop machine, trackball unusable.) Linux ? memory ? disk ? example price ? * Sager 8200 DX2/66 Runs NextStep (problems with SCSI adapter and trackball) Linux ? This machine has local bus video and local bus IDE. Additionaly, the docking station has local bus slots. Memory up to 20Meg, disk ? example price : ? Some conclusions: I will probably buy either a DecPC or a Nec, unless somebody reports to run NextStep on a TP750. The NEC is appealing because of its upgradeability, local bus and the rumored 800x600 LCD. -- Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr> LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: !HELP! Floppy drive problem again !HELP! Date: 7 Jan 1994 16:19:56 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2gk23c$g7n@email.tuwien.ac.at> 1. My configuration is: HiNT 486/50 VESA/EISA - motherboard American Megatrends BIOS , dated 07/07/91 CAESAR-F chipset BIOS no. 40-0000-001107-00101111-013193 16 MB RAM Diamond Viper VLB ver 2.02 2 MB VRAM Adaptec 1740 BIOS ver 1.34, dated 1991 running in Standard mode IRQ 11, port 330, DMA 5 - Seagate 425 MB HD - Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM PTI-227B Super I/O used as ISA floppy controller floppy port: 3f0 - 3f7 ESCOM SoundBlaster Pro II - clone Microsoft serial mouse 2. The problem The machine works *perfectly* with NSFIP 3.2 in every respect but one: it sometimes (!) locks up when acessing the floppy. It does so more often when accessing damaged or defective disks, but this is no secure condition. Lockups also happen with perfectly intact disks, and repairing damaged ones works from time to time. The actual crash has varying forms: sometimes the cursor freezes, sometimes there are "kernel_panic" - messages displayed. Frequently the system complains about "dma byte count" errors when going down. Other messages have also been displayed, but never twice or under reproducible conditions. Normally the filesystem of the hard disk is damaged, and the data on the floppy in the drive is destroyed beyond recovery (there have been exceptions to this). 3. The History (is: failed attempts to fix) When I read about the conflict between Adaptec Controllers and ATI EISA cards (my previous configuration), I swapped the ATI for a Diamond Viper (which, for lack of a driver, is now running in VGA mode). No real changes; though the frequency and severity of crashes was somewhat reduced, the problem remained. Then I decided to test the floppy part of the system: I installed a new ISA floppy controller, cable and drive. This has made things worse again. BTW: I'm not new to hardware, and I've never seen an error like this. Jumpers and NSconfig have been triple-checked: there are no readily apparent conflicts or the like. 4. The PLEASE HELP (in block capitals) message The machine in querstion is my home machine that I need to do university work, and this defect makes it practically unusable. If anyone has a clue of what is causing this, PLEASE TELL! I would hate to revert to DOS/WINDOWS, but if this can't be fixed soon, I will have to. A.W. -- *********************************************************** * _ * Alexander Wilkie * * / \ \ / * wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at * * /---\ \ /\ / * Technical University Vienna * * / \ \/ \/ * Austria / Europe * * * (NeXTMail o.k.) * ***********************************************************
From: sweberg@garfield.wes.army.mil (Scott D. Weberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which graphics card for NSI? Date: 7 Jan 1994 16:44:59 GMT Organization: USACE Waterways Experiment Station Message-ID: <2gk3ib$god@Joanna.Wes.Army.Mil> Other than the ATI Ultra Pro VLB (which seems to be backordered for quite a while), which graphics card would you recommend to run NS Intel with? The PC is ready, and we have the OS, we're just trying to get a graphics card for it. Thanks. Scott D. Weberg Computer Scientist Waterways Experiment Station
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Date: 7 Jan 1994 16:53:55 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2gk433$acp@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <2gjlt1$8i4@cc.tut.fi> In article <2gjlt1$8i4@cc.tut.fi> t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) writes: > In article <Jan.6.18.34.30.1994.3575@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: > >I dont know what you time table on buying this system is, but if money is no > >object, maybe you should wait for the HP port (comming real soon) or the SUN > >port a bit more down the line. The HP high end machines make the pentium > >look weak, but you'll pay nose bleed prices for them. > > How sure this HP thing is? I did read about it (I believe it was > NeXTworld August 93), but there wasn't any spesific time schedule. > When is it supposed to be released? Are there any preliminary information > regarding the HP port? The HP port is scheduled for spring and said to be ahead of schedule. HP will announce new low end workstations on Jan 18, They should make any other machine look weak and be very attractively priced. Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Date: 7 Jan 1994 17:13:35 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2gk580$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <CJ6wDs.FsI@pdh.com> <Jan.6.18.34.30.1994.3575@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <2gjlt1$8i4@cc.tut.fi> : How sure this HP thing is? I did read about it (I believe it was : NeXTworld August 93), but there wasn't any spesific time schedule. : When is it supposed to be released? Are there any preliminary information : regarding the HP port? : -Juha And, because it will be a new port, it will probably be flaky for a while. Does anyone know the approximate pricing of NS/HP (if it has been decided), and Pentium-equivalent HP machines? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSi & 1024b/s disks... Date: 7 Jan 1994 17:16:11 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2gk5cr$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <Jan.7.01.38.41.1994.21740@gandalf.rutgers.edu> I was once told that the DPT adapter had problems with 1024b/s, too. In fact, I remember vaguely that it didn't even pass its startup check routine. John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote: : Its come to my attention that NSi will not work on a 1024b/s formatted disk. : At least the install wont. WHY! Im going to try and attatch a 1024b/s : disk onto an already running NSi machine and see if BuildDisk will work on it. : Does anyone have any experience with this? Anyway, Ill post my BuildDisk : results later. : Later, John -- Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Ryan J. Kucera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ink cartridges Date: 7 Jan 1994 19:52:14 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gkehe$cis@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I've just run out of ink for my NeXT Color Printer. Does anyone know a place I can call to get some for a good price? Thanks, Ryan Kucera kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSi & 1024b/s disks... Date: 7 Jan 1994 20:35:25 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gkh2d$1ka@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <2gk5cr$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> In article <2gk5cr$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > I was once told that the DPT adapter had problems with 1024b/s, too. In > fact, I remember vaguely that it didn't even pass its startup check routine. > > John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote: > : Its come to my attention that NSi will not work on a 1024b/s formatted disk. The Fall 1993 NEXTSTEP In Focus flatly states that PC SCSI cards can't handle boot disks formatted at anything other than 512 bytes/block. So maybe 512 bytes/block is standard in the PC world :-( -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Looking for Adobe mail server/ ppdf HP LJ 4mP Message-ID: <VXTKBNSK@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 19:42:39 GMT I'm looking for the address of the adobe mail server to get the ppdf file for the HP LJ 4mP. I've also heart about a programm to generate ppdf files. Any hints? Thanks, Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095 Email: mzeller@gwdg.de -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095 Email: mzeller@gwdg.de
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: !HELP! Floppy drive problem again !HELP! Date: 7 Jan 1994 22:51:44 +0200 Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2gki10$vc@cc.tut.fi> References: <2gk23c$g7n@email.tuwien.ac.at> In article <2gk23c$g7n@email.tuwien.ac.at> wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie) writes: >1. My configuration is: > >Diamond Viper VLB ver 2.02 > 2 MB VRAM Is there driver available for nsi for that card? How about the performance, I have a hunch that this might burn some rubber on nsi if there's a driver available. -Juha -- Doctor, doctor! I suck. You've gotta help me.
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Date: 7 Jan 1994 20:56:01 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2gki91INNpbq@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <Jan.6.18.34.30.1994.3575@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <2gjlt1$8i4@cc.tut.fi> <2gk580$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> Gee, It would be nice if HP could over a low cost (< 1K) upgrade board for slab and cube owners. This would be a quick way to get a lot of people developing apps for HP-Nextstep . This would be an awesome scientific workstation. (Steve-are you listening?)
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21M floptical WORKS!! Date: 7 Jan 1994 21:51:08 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2gklgc$oo6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hi all, I have asked a question on the 21M floptical long ago but there was no answer on whether it works or not. Since I have the New Diagram 2.1, I have to have a floppy to install it. I take the chance ans it works! But it still does not (mentioned in NS3.2 notes) format HD disks. Can anyone show me a work arround? Also, When I eject a DOS disk, I go the following, is it normal?? Other than this, it finished the installation of 5 disks in about 1-1.5 mins. I think this is a good alternative to the NeXT floppy disk for the Black hardware. Andy ---- sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x2 additional sense code:0x4 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) DOS unix_rw: write returned 286901080 po_open returned 286893858 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 1 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 2 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 3 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 4 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 5 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 6 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 7 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 8 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 9 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 10 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 11 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 12 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 13 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 14 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 15 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 16 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 17 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 18 Target 6: NOT READY; retry 19 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x2 additional sense code:0x4 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) DOS unix_rw: write returned 286901080 Cant flush F.A.T dos_unmount: pc_dskclose returned 286893858 Jan 7 16:31:43 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /7_alf_produ Disk Label: DiagramDisk1 Disk Capacity 1MB, Device Block 512 bytes Disk is Write Protected Jan 7 16:32:20 Workspace: Mounted floppy disk at /DiagramDisk1 -- //|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu // || // @ wkwong@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu //==||/\\ @ // || \\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jdawson@gagme.wwa.com (Jerald W Dawson) Subject: Where to get Pentium/PCI machine with miro graphics card Message-ID: <CJA3x9.5Dx@serveme.wwa.com> Sender: usenet@serveme.wwa.com Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicagoland Internet Services +1 312 282 8605 Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 21:34:20 GMT I'm looking to purchase a Pentium machine with the specifications listed below Pentium with PCI slots miro Crystal graphics card 32 meg ram SCSI card that supports NeXTSTEP Don't need hardrive, I have a 1.2 gig drive burning a hole on my desk 21" color monitor (or at lease 17" if the 21 is too expensive) NS/fIP preinstalled I just sold my NeXTStation Turbo Color and have the money to get a really nice intel machine. If any body knows where I can get one please let me know. If any sales people see this and want to sell me a machine then e-mail me at jerald@mrk.com. Thanks in advance jerald dawson Systems Manager/Head Programmer Investor's Advantage / MRK NeXTMAIL jerald@mrk.com -- ["To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propogation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" - Thomas Jefferson]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: That 1400x1024 video card? Message-ID: <1994Jan7.154149.8033@nic.csu.net> From: Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu <Stephen Gibson> Date: 7 Jan 94 15:41:47 PST References: <Jan.5.23.39.25.1994.29117@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Distribution: world Organization: Sonoma State University In article <Jan.5.23.39.25.1994.29117@gandalf.rutgers.edu> John Kheit, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu writes: > Hi all, > Im in the market for yet another video card... > -BTW, FYI a Nice Super EISA Rev 1 MB does NOT work with a STB Pegasus, > something about the VLB slot and SIS chip set, blah, blah, blah... > -Also, I called up #9 and they couldn't guarantee that their 4meg VLB card > would work with an EISA/VLB MB with SIS chipset either, although their ISA > version of the card will, and they say the ISA version is only about 8% > slower than the VLB version???? Whats wrong with that picture? Has anyone > tried this #9 (i think its called level 14) video card with a Nice Super > EISA rev 1 MB? If so, could you please let me know how it worked out! > > Anyway, so Im thinking about getting that sweedish or german, or etc... > video card that does 1408X1024@16bit & 1024X768@32bit. Also, some one was > telling me that this company may have a card that can do 1600X1200@32bit, > anyone know about this card? > > Anyhow, could some one please tell me the name of the company, the > name of the board and a phone number where I can get a hold of this board for > ordering. > > Thanks for any/all info, in advance > > Later, John John, The company's name is miro Computer Products 3160 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 200 Santa Clara, CA 95054 (408) 727-1558 Specs: ------ video memory: 4MB VRAM max. resolution: 1408 x 1024 65,536 colors up to: 1408 x 1024 16.7 mil. colors up to 1024 x 768 refresh rates up to: 100 Hz virtual desktop up to: 2048 x 1024 color calibration connection: integrated graphics processor: S3 86C928 VGA: integrated bus systems: ISA, EISA, VLB, PCI Hope this helps! --------------------------------------------- Stephen Gibson, Office Automation Specialist Sonoma State University eMAIL: gibsonst@sonoma.edu Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu GibsonST@aol.com
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSi & 1024b/s disks... Message-ID: <Jan.7.19.02.43.1994.5276@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 8 Jan 94 00:02:43 GMT References: <2gk5cr$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2gkh2d$1ka@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: >> John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote: >> : Its come to my attention that NSi will not work on a 1024b/s formatted >disk. > The Fall 1993 NEXTSTEP In Focus flatly states that PC SCSI cards can't >handle boot disks formatted at anything other than 512 bytes/block. So >maybe 512 bytes/block is standard in the PC world :-( Boy this seems awfully limiting! Boy that new HP hardware is looking REAL good now. Anyway, Im still trying to work out a solution to this, with a DPT board. I at least get by the diagnostic with the 1024b/s drive... Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: ATI VLB GUP ****Power Down/Up Problems***** Message-ID: <1994Jan7.211516.1741@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 21:15:16 GMT I am working on a systems that has a AT GUP Local Bus Card. It also has a Diamond Speedstar card which is important in a minute. I can power up the machine with the Diamond card installed, and bring up NeXTSTEP. I then configure for the ATI Card, which I plan to replace the Diamond with upon powering down. When the systems comes up with the ATI installed, I see NeXTSTEP in color, as planned. However, when I power don, then try to come back up, the system locks before I ever even get to any diagnostics -- nothing happens. I then replace the ATI with the Diamond, and things work again. I was wondering if anyone had seen this type of behavior with an ATI GUP VLB. THanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: That 1400x1024 video card? Date: 8 Jan 1994 01:57:08 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2gl3tk$jsf@digdug.pencom.com> References: <Jan.5.23.39.25.1994.29117@gandalf.rutgers.edu> John Kheit writes: > > Anyway, so Im thinking about getting that sweedish or german, or etc... > video card that does 1408X1024@16bit & 1024X768@32bit. Also, some one > was telling me that this company may have a card that can do > 1600 x 1200 @ 32bit, anyone know about this card? The card can do 1600 x 1200 x 8 but that didn't make it to the NEXTSTEP driver. If it is put in there it would be in the form of 8-bit grayscale and not 32 bit color since the window server does not support 8-bit color yet. Here's some info from miro Computer Products: _________________________________________________________ 1. Who is going to support this driver? This driver will be supported by miro. 2. What is the exact product name for the card? miroCRYSTAL 32S 3. Where can customers get the card in the US? miro Computer Products,Inc. 3160 De La Cruz Blvd, Suite 200 Santa Clara, Ca 95054 Phone: 1-800-249-MIRO Fax: (408)988-2515 4. Where can get customers get the driver? The driver is bundled with the miroCRYSTAL 32S. _________________________________________________________ Ricardo J. Parada Pencom Software Austin, Texas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: d91-elu@dront.nada.kth.se (Erik Lundström) Subject: Cirrus Logic Problem - The Sequel Message-ID: <1994Jan8.021020.29991@kth.se> Sender: usenet@kth.se Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 02:10:20 GMT The Cirrus Logic video card in my NeXTstep machine are driving me nuts. Its called "M5 Veloce 8600 VLIO" and is a 1Mb VL-Bus card powered with a Cirrus GD5428 processor. I have tried the "exit-as-login-name-trick" but that doesnt seem to work. Sure, something happens, but the screen still comes up garbled. Anybody got another trick up there sleeves? (How about dear olde NeXT Inc?) Please reply through my friends account: d91-elu@nada.kth.se best regards, David Wallin.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: d91-elu@dront.nada.kth.se (Erik Lundström) Subject: SLIP using PNI 1.6 + SupraModem Message-ID: <1994Jan8.021304.223@kth.se> Sender: usenet@kth.se Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 02:13:04 GMT Im trying to configure PNI 1.6beta for my Intel machine. I want to use PNI as a SLIP server (and client at the same time) using my SupraFaxModem V.32bis. So, if somebody have written a TCL-script for the supramodem Im VERY interested. I can be reached at my friends account: d91-elu@nada.kth.se best regards, David Wallin.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Need for a DSP56001 PC-ISA board Message-ID: <1994Jan7.172900.246@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 17:29:00 GMT I just receive the price from ARIEL: DSP-56 24 bit integer DSP development system with 27Mhz processors, CD-quality, 16 bits analog input/output and DSPnet and SCSI interface. Bundled program development software includes macro assembler/linker, BUG-56 symbolic debugger monitor, and demo programs with source code. DSP-56 has 48Kwords (144Kbytes) memory, installed as three 16Kword bank; all three bank can be expanded to 64Kwords. International price list: DSP-56 27 MHz DSP56001 with dual 16 bits analog I/O $3,595.00 DSP-56-33 33 MHz DSP56001 with dual 16 bits analog I/O $3,775.00 Conclusion: Too much for me, but I am investigating a small french company who design a DSP56001 PC-ISA board which could be sold around $600 to $800. I am going to get one and try design a NS-FIP driver and port the NEXT-DSP56001 library on it. Cheers. Fabien -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted) Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France, Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: scs4@encon.pge.com (Simon Salcedo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: Want to print to Next laser from Mac Message-ID: <2607@news01.pge.com> Date: 8 Jan 94 02:21:07 GMT Sender: news@news01.pge.com I have a NeXTstation running NS 2.1. Connected to it is a Next laser printer. I also have a Mac with a built-in Ethernet port. I want to print from the Mac to the Next printer. What should I do? I suppose I can connect the two via the Ethernet ports. Now, what software do I need for the Mac to see the printer? Where can I get them? Thanks. Simon scs4@pge.com 415-973-0647
From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ProAudio 16 Basic Date: 8 Jan 1994 03:18:53 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2gl8mt$m3e@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <129752@hydra.gatech.EDU> In article <129752@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John "Kzin" Rudd) writes: > > Has anyone noticed the new PA16 Basic? It looks basically like the > PASpectrum 16, without the scsi adaptor.. it says it's supported by > NEXTSTEP right on the package.. thing is, it's only $20 or $30 less > than a PAS16.. So I'm not sure what value it has in comparison.. > > If anyone has heard of it, do you know if it uses the same NEXTSTEP > driver as the Spectrum, or does it come with it's own NS driver? > > It says it has a standard PC game port.. I'm wondering if the > thrustmaster will work with it.. Since I'd like to get a joystick > for my dos games.. (no, I don't expect the joystick to be supported > by NEXTSTEP). > > Anyways, any info would be appreciated.. > > and I thought I'd let people know in case they want to add the card > for their Next system, and want to save the $20 bucks. > > John We've have PS16Basic sound cards in both of our intel nexts and the PASpectrum driver seems to work with them. I say seems because on our IDE based machine, the sound card works fine (can play long sounds no problem). But on our SCSI based system, it can get confused when it plays sounds that last more than ~10 seconds. Also I can't record, but I don't know if the driver supports recording or not. I also got information from Media Vision. The specs on the two boards are nearly identical except for a few differences. - As you mentioned the Spectrum has a SCSI interface (for CD-ROM drives) while the Basic does not. NS does not support this scsi interface though. - The Spectrum has a built in 4watt/channel stereo amplifer which can drive 4 ohm or 8 ohm speakers. The Basic only has the high impedance headphone like jack. This might be worth the difference in price especially if you don't have powered speakers. - The Basic supports sampling/playback at 16bit and 8bit resolutions, while the Spectrum supports 16bit, 12bit, and 8bit. I don't think the next uses the 12bit mode though. - The Basic supports sample rates from 6kHz - 44.1kHz while the Spectrum supports 2kHz - 44.1kHz. When we were pricing sound cards the difference was closer to $75 so we decided to go for the Basic. If the difference is only $20-$30 now, you'd make that up in the cost of getting powered speakers. Michael
From: dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to get Pentium/PCI machine with miro graphics card Date: 8 Jan 1994 03:32:33 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2gl9gh$nmi@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <CJA3x9.5Dx@serveme.wwa.com> In <CJA3x9.5Dx@serveme.wwa.com>, jdawson@gagme.wwa.com (Jerald W Dawson) writes: )I'm looking to purchase a Pentium machine with the specifications listed ) Pentium with PCI slots ) miro Crystal graphics card ) 32 meg ram ) SCSI card that supports NeXTSTEP ) 21" color monitor (or at lease 17" if the 21 is too expensive) ) Don't need hardrive, I have a 1.2 gig drive burning a hole on my desk ) NS/fIP preinstalled This last bit is kinda interesting. I suppose you are going to send the drive to them for the install... I thought the deal with the PCI was that one should wait another few months because of bugs in the Intel PCI support chips.
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John "Kzin" Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Media Vision Products Summary: support planned for Pro Graphics 1280? Message-ID: <129993@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 8 Jan 94 05:03:10 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology After finding the ProAudio 16 Basic the other day, I picked up a flyer on media vision products.. The PA16Basic looks good..it's basically a PAS16 without the scsi controller. I wonder if this will fix the bug with hanging when you play an audio cd? At anyrate, also in the flyer is the following product(mostly quoted from flyer): The Pro Graphics 1280. Pro Graphics offers a spectrum of resolutions up to 1280x1024 with 16.7 million outstanding colors at a refresh rate of 76Hz. Pro Graphics 1280 is the premier choice for upgrading your PC's multimedia workstation graphics capability. * The fastest True Color(tm) accelerator card on the market * VESA local bus interface * 16.7 million colors at 1280x1024 * 24 bits/pixel for photographic image quality The fastest True Color Windows accelerator card taht brings top quality graphics performance to your PC at a speed that will astound you. (end) Maybe it's mostly just marketing hype, but it sounds pretty nice, eh? I'm curious.. if NeXT has only chosen to support the PAS sound cards, and they've just added 24bit color support for intel, does anyone know if they plan to support this card? Media Vision seems like a nice company to me (they have a nice capture board too), and I think it would be nice if NeXT helped all of their products in to the NEXTSTEP world. Especially since this is one of the few PC based 24bit color graphics cards I've seen, and the only one I've seen for VESA. Any information on whether Media Vision will supply the required drivers? That was the other thing I noticed.. Media Visions PA16Basic card says right on the box "Supported by NEXTSTEP". I haven't seen any other PC hardware that is supported by NEXTSTEP go ahead and acknowlege it. If Media Vision *wants* to be fully supported by NEXTSTEP, maybe they'll supply the required drivers? Any info would be nice. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) ===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.============== "Discussing whether or not computers can think is about as interesting as discussing whether or not submarines can swim." -- Dijkstra
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: That 1400x1024 video card? Message-ID: <1994Jan8.022454.1485@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <Jan.5.23.39.25.1994.29117@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <2gl3tk$jsf@digdug.pencom.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 02:24:54 GMT Any clue what monitors this works on? Your basic high rez workstation monitor or what? -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: billy@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Billy Barr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which graphics card for NSI? Date: 8 Jan 1994 06:11:37 GMT Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group Message-ID: <2gliqp$7qo@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> References: <2gk3ib$god@Joanna.Wes.Army.Mil> Scott D. Weberg (sweberg@garfield.wes.army.mil) wrote: : Other than the ATI Ultra Pro VLB (which seems to be backordered for quite : a while), which graphics card would you recommend to run NS Intel with? : The PC is ready, and we have the OS, we're just trying to get a graphics : card for it. I don't have NeXTStep installed on my system, but from what I've seen on my machine running Linux with Xwindows, the best cards to get are the s3-928s. They are very fast, even faster than the Ultra Pro Under Linux. NeXTStep 3.2 comes with support for the Number Nine GXe. I would recommend buying the level 12 (2MB VRAM, 1MB DRAM). I'm sure that you have the hardware compatibility guide for other s3 driver availabilities. If not, you can ftp the compat. guide from ftp.next.com. I hope this helps, Billy Barr If you must flame me, do it graciously.
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Toshiba 4400C Mouse/Keyboard dead in 3.2 Date: 8 Jan 1994 06:47:21 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2glktp$l5u@umd5.umd.edu> OK, I am at my wit's end. I have a Toshiba 4400C which was running 3.1 just fine. I decided to upgrade to 3.2, and, as others upgrading this laptop to 3.2 have found, the keyboard croaked. Furthermore, my PS/2 mouse won't work either, unless I plug it into the serial port and use it as a serial mouse. I edited the kernel according to the instructions I found in this newsgroup, but there is no change in behavior. I can't find anything about this in NeXTanswers. Seeing how this is a bit of a "show-stopper", and that I believe there are other models affected, I don't understand this. Has anyone contacted NeXT about this? Or has anyone found an effective patch? Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) Subject: JAWS video Message-ID: <CJB6AL.L7p@well.sf.ca.us> Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 11:23:09 GMT Since its now 1994 and well past the time of our new 3.2 updates, let me one more ask the same question I asked last June when NeXTSTEP first arrived on for intel machines and the universal refrain was "just wait for the new 3.2 drivers": Is there _ANY_ video card available for NeXTSTEP 486, that we can purchase NOW that is as fast as the Dell JAWS video? I simply do not understand why a machine that has a 50mhz processor and is the actual machine NeXTSTEP was developed on (the "pc on steroids referenced in SJ and the NeXT Big Thing), is _STILL_ visually faster then any other machine we've subjected to our rigourous barrage of tests, namely sitting in front of them and wondering why the hell we cannot buy JAWS Pentium machines, JAWS video on any other system, or for that matter _ANYTHING_ that is comparable. The only system that comes close is the NeXT native hardware and the Wingine machines, the ATI is horrible, I haven't seen the Matrox cards. We still have a need for at least 8-10 486 machines before we can reasonably expect to start looking towards the HP ports with their hopefully much improved performance, to meet our needs. What gives and if JAWS is so great, why did no other company except for Dell ever manufacture it, and why for the matter has Dell itself made it so hard to try and order the DGX machines, or even bothered to update them to Pentium speeds. Enlightenment appreciated
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jonathan Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP and Phoenix BIOS: any problems? Date: 8 Jan 1994 11:48:46 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2gmrlu$8rd@cobber.cord.edu> I am looking at a computer from Micron right now to run NEXTSTEP on. It is a Pentium/PCI/32MB with flash Phoenix BIOS. Has anyone had conflicts with with NEXTSTEP on systems with this BIOS? Also, the system comes with a 2GB SCSI-2 drive. For some reason I seem to recall posts saying that NS has a problem building very large disks. I hope this is false. Info would greatly be appreciated. Thanks a million. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: mike@dannug.dk (Michael Zedeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power ON - Black hardware Date: 8 Jan 1994 22:00:33 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gnae1$1ch@nexia.dk> Hi there, does anyone know how to preprogram a black machine when to turn on again? If you look at preferences->power, there is an option to specify a certain date and TOD at which your black computer should turn itself on, but how can one do this from within an application? Michael Zedeler, Roskilde University, Member of Danish NeXT U. G. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence. See also: MS-DOS, MS-Windows, PC, X, 80x86. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAWS video Date: Sat, 8 Jan 94 21:06:11 EST Organization: Delphi Internet Message-ID: <940108.75971.ECESYS@delphi.com> References: <CJB6AL.L7p@well.sf.ca.us> We have a very price-competitive product line of Wingine-based NSFIP machines. We have been actively manufacturing NS machines since we announced our Machine at NeXTWORLD EXPO last year. We are listed in the NeXT Compatibility guide, and will be one of featured Intel boxes at Devcon in Wash DC used by NeXT. The machines are available in black or white, and provide excellent video performance. We have just finished our 8 bit greyscale driver, so if you have a requirement for fast( NXBENCH=1.6) low end greyscale machines, as well as our high end color models, please send e-mail to this address with your FAX number, and we will get prices and configs to you. These systems are definitely comparable(or better) than the JAWS configs. \ M. Fossum eCesys
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: JAWS video (long) Message-ID: <bchin.758046196@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <CJB6AL.L7p@well.sf.ca.us> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 16:23:16 GMT dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) writes: >Is there _ANY_ video card available for NeXTSTEP 486, that we can purchase >NOW that is as fast as the Dell JAWS video? I simply do not understand why a >machine that has a 50mhz processor and is the actual machine NeXTSTEP was >developed on (the "pc on steroids referenced in SJ and the NeXT Big Thing), >is _STILL_ visually faster then any other machine we've subjected to our >rigourous barrage of tests, namely sitting in front of them and wondering >why the hell we cannot buy JAWS Pentium machines, JAWS video on any other >system, or for that matter _ANYTHING_ that is comparable. The only system >that comes close is the NeXT native hardware and the Wingine machines, the >ATI is horrible, I haven't seen the Matrox cards. We still have a need for >at least 8-10 486 machines before we can reasonably expect to start looking >towards the HP ports with their hopefully much improved performance, to meet >our needs. Well, first, the DGX, Wingine cousins, nor the NeXTstations used VESA localbus or PCI. The Wingine and JAWS cannot be put on a VL-bus card - it's too limited. I don't know if PCI is rich enough to handle it. The impression I got from a bunch of people about the DGX is that Dell designed them to run Windows. It was a horrible disaster for them, and they were delighted that people were happy to buy them for NEXTSTEP. However, it still wasn't like they depleted their stock in a few weeks... the machine was expensive (~$2700 bare, about $750 above the JCIS or Epson machine) and the CPU was weak compared to the other machines. So, it's a great "business" level machine (someone doing Diagram charts, some spreadsheets, etc.) but the price was "workstation" level. They probably still have a bunch in stock - unable to sell them. Now, if they did deplete their stock right away, they probably would have put priority on getting a 486/DX2 66mhz or Pentium version ready. As it is, I saw a bag with Pentium DGX labeled and at NeXTWORLD Expo last May, the Dell reps said that more DGX's were planned, so maybe something is coming down the pike. As for the Wingine machines, the Epson NX suffers from a lack of CPU cache. It makes the 486/DX2 66mhz benchmark like it was a 486/50 DX2 (only a couple steps ahead of the DG/X). In addition, it has only two SIMM slots and only ISA slots. Given all of that, it's a nice all around machine for $750 less than the DG/X. *Make sure you get SCSI with this machine* IDE drains the CPU too much. While others have not found this machine to be un-reliable, we've had 5 failures on the 3 NX's we have (two were DOA). And the 24 hour service policy just doesn't work. The turn around times have been 3 days to 2.5 weeks. The Lucky Goldstar and eCesys machines use the JCIS motherboard. We have a Lucky Goldstar and a friend of mine just got one straight from JCIS. This machine *does* have a CPU cache, and in dhrystones beat/matched the Intel Pro GX (at 60483). In addition, it has a proprietary local bus slot that houses a JCIS card with a Wingine chipset. The video performance is right around the speed of a DG/X (subjective). With a free VL-bus slot and plenty of drive bays, this is a great machine if you don't need Pentium horsepower. Primary limitations are: max 32mb of RAM using older SIMM type in current model - the new 2235 motherboard uses 72pin interleaved SIMMs raising the max to 64mb. The limitation is the Wingine card, not the motherboard. The new 1440e Wingine card (shipped last month) is capable of 1152x900 in 12 bit color but the driver isn't available yet. Of course all of the machines above have proprietary video solutions. The DG/X and Epson have the video on the motherboard and cannot be upgraded. The JCIS has it on a card, but it's JCIS proprietary. However, it is my feeling that one *cannot* make a VL-bus card that outperforms the video in these machines. Now if only Epson and Dell will get the CPU portion right. Of course, this becomes a whole new ball of wax when the 64 bit solutions start coming out. Good luck on those machine decisions! -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP and Phoenix BIOS: any problems? Message-ID: <CJBrMz.51H@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI, Phoenix,NeXTSTEP Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2gmrlu$8rd@cobber.cord.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 19:04:10 GMT In article <2gmrlu$8rd@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jonathan Doroin) writes: > Phoenix BIOS. Has anyone had conflicts with > with NEXTSTEP on systems with this BIOS? I posted that the Intel Pro GX which uses the Phoenix bios had a problem with Conner 525MB IDE hard drives. This was prior to NeXTWORLD Expo, and I believe that Intel has corrected this problem, but do not hold me to it. I was told it was do to the limitations of the bios to map ??? for drives over 500MB, and that Conner drives and the Phoenix bios were incompatible. When I spoke to the people who maintain the Phoenix bios they told me that Micronics mother boards which Gateway was (is?) using and Dell also used Phoenix bios and might have a problems with Conner drives. Changing to a Quantum IDE 525MB drive allowed us to use 504MB of the drive. I have never tried a Conner IDE hard drive on an INTEL Pro GX since then. We also used an Adaptec 1542B connected to a 525MB SCSI drive using the GX and did not have any problems. That is all I know. --- Bill Strehl Executive Director ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc. reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org "Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
From: ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian Bainbridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAWS video (long) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 94 05:44:13 EST Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Distribution: world Message-ID: <e1sVFc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> References: <bchin.758046196@news.andi.org> Originator: ian@mindvox bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: > dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon) writes: > > >Is there _ANY_ video card available for NeXTSTEP 486, that we can purchase > >NOW that is as fast as the Dell JAWS video? I simply do not understand why a > >machine that has a 50mhz processor and is the actual machine NeXTSTEP was > >developed on (the "pc on steroids referenced in SJ and the NeXT Big Thing), > >is _STILL_ visually faster then any other machine we've subjected to our > > Well, first, the DGX, Wingine cousins, nor the NeXTstations used VESA > localbus or PCI. The Wingine and JAWS cannot be put on a VL-bus > card - it's too limited. I don't know if PCI is rich enough to > handle it. > > The impression I got from a bunch of people about the DGX is that > Dell designed them to run Windows. It was a horrible disaster > for them, and they were delighted that people were happy to > buy them for NEXTSTEP. However, it still wasn't like they > depleted their stock in a few weeks... the machine was expensive > (~$2700 bare, about $750 above the JCIS or Epson machine) and > the CPU was weak compared to the other machines. So, it's a > great "business" level machine (someone doing Diagram charts, > some spreadsheets, etc.) but the price was "workstation" level. > They probably still have a bunch in stock - unable to sell them. > Now, if they did deplete their stock right away, they probably > would have put priority on getting a 486/DX2 66mhz or Pentium > version ready. As it is, I saw a bag with Pentium DGX labeled > and at NeXTWORLD Expo last May, the Dell reps said that more > DGX's were planned, so maybe something is coming down the pike. I spoke with a few DELL representatives last June about getting more information on the JAWS machines and eventually got actual access to one such machine. The customer reps did not know what the machine was or where to order it, its advertised in their 1992 catalog as a "high end graphics workstation" and seems targeted to running AutoCad, and a few modelling programs, which is comes with patches for, so the programs recognize it. But from my understanding this was to be their flagship Unix workstation, it does 1280x1024 under Dell Unix and performs extremely well in comparision to anything I've used on Sparcstations, except their highest speed gx+ doudble-buffered cards, which provide similar visual speed. But then Dell Unix didn't do very well at all and was officially discountinued last fall, which left the DGX a flagship machine, without an operating system, except for NeXSTEP which they alternatively push as "the world's fastest machine for NeXTSTEP" or are completely unaware of its existence, depending on which sales rep from which department you get. For what its worth JAWS video performance under windows is extremely medicore, because the JAWS cards will also spoof et4000/Tseng video cards, which is all that the card does under Dell's drivers for windows, putting it at very average speed, there are no special drivers to make use of the card under windows at all. Where the video wakes up screams is under the X window servers (Open Look and Motif) originally provided for Dell Unix, and of course NeXTSTEP. > Of course all of the machines above have proprietary video > solutions. The DG/X and Epson have the video on the motherboard > and cannot be upgraded. The JCIS has it on a card, but it's > JCIS proprietary. However, it is my feeling that one *cannot* > make a VL-bus card that outperforms the video in these machines. Yeah, the JAWS card is huge, it takes up a 32bit EISA slot plus an additional JAWS/Direct Coupler slot on the motherboard and the 486 itself is on the JAWS card. The motherboard holds the remaining EISA slots, up to 96mb RAM, 3 drive bays, 2 internal drive bays, etc. The machine can support 2 monitors simultaenesouly (one up to 1024x768, the other JAWS video, there are two output jacks in the back). Overall I would rate it as my favorite machine to run NeXTSTEP on, the processor is 50mhz being the only drawback, but everything is so tightly integrated, high quality, comes with a cache, secondary cache, fast RAM, that the machine is easily comparable to most other dx/66 offerings. The main negative point is the high price. > Now if only Epson and Dell will get the CPU portion right. > Of course, this becomes a whole new ball of wax when the 64 bit > solutions start coming out. Looking forward to it. I'd love to see JAWS on a PCI machine with a Pentium. ian ################# @ #Ian Bainbridge # mindvox. # ############################################### phantom. # I am not responsible for my opinons, I don't know or care! # com ###############################################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) Subject: How much hard disk space do I really have? Message-ID: <1994Jan9.171518.6647@iitmax.iit.edu> Keywords: hard disk space df buildisk Workspace manager Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Sun, 9 Jan 94 17:15:18 GMT Merry New Year. Could some kind soul sort out this confusion? I just installed a new Fujistu M2624FA hard disk. It is supposed to have around 520 MB of space after formatting. I have not yet put anything on it. Depending on what I look at, I get different information on how much space is available: Upon boot up: .... Jan 8 14:47:41 localhost mach: FUJITSU M2624F-1024 Rev 0405 as sd1 at sc0 target 2 lun 0 Jan 8 14:47:41 localhost mach: Disk Label: Eames2 Jan 8 14:47:41 localhost mach: Disk Capacity 521MB, Device Block 1024 bytes df tells me: Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 345542 302278 8709 97% / /dev/sd1a 516368 10 464721 00% /Eames2 <--This one Workspace manager tells me 453 MB available on hard disk. Builddisk tells me its a 521 MB drive. Here's the info from disk init: localhost:11# /usr/etc/disk /dev/rsd1a disk name: FUJITSU M2624F-1024 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> init DESTROYS ALL EXISTING DISK DATA -- really initialize? yes enter host name: localhost enter disk label: Eames2 writing disk label Block 0 boot is "/usr/standalone/boot", ok? yes creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 534050 33 11 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 286 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 534050 sectors in 1472 cylinders of 11 tracks, 33 sectors 546.9Mb in 92 cyl groups (16 c/g, 5.95Mb/g, 1408 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 5864, 11712, 17560, 23408, 29256, 35104, 40952, 46800, 52648, 58496, 64344, 70192, 76040, 81888, 87736, 92944, 98792, 104640, 110488, 116336, 122184, 128032, 133880, 139728, 145576, 151424, 157272, 163120, 168968, 174816, 180664, 185872, 191720, 197568, 203416, 209264, 215112, 220960, 226808, 232656, 238504, 244352, 250200, 256048, 261896, 267744, 273592, 278800, 284648, 290496, 296344, 302192, 308040, 313888, 319736, 325584, 331432, 337280, 343128, 348976, 354824, 360672, 366520, 371728, 377576, 383424, 389272, 95120,00, 40681612664, 412,60, 430208, 436056, 441904, 447752, 453600, 459448, 464656, 470504, 476352, 482200, 488048, 493896, 499744, 505592, 511440, 517288, 523136, 528984, initialization complete Any insightful comments would be appreciated. Best, Chris Conley Institute of Design Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: The Fastest NeXTSTEP Solutions...so far Message-ID: <1994Jan9.153741.1098@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 15:37:41 GMT We do a lot of driver development here and so we end up with a lot of hardware to test. The fastest machines we've seen so far are: 486: ECESYS....some tweaking from ECESYS gives this machine some performance advantages, especially in video, over the Lucky or the JC. Plus Marty really knows NeXTSTEP and that's a REAL advantage! Pentium: DELL...OmniPlex 566...66Mhz, PCI bus, on-board ATI video, on-board NCR SCSI processor. This is by far the fastest NeXTSTEP machine we've seen yet. I don't know if they are hot-loading NeXTSTEP on it yet, but if you'll drop me a line I'll check on that tomorrow and let you know. Benchmarks will be available on this machine later in the week. I believe that the Dell XPS is only available in 60Mhz....forget that...go for the 66Mhz for the small difference in price. Hope this helps..... Steve Sarich III Talus Corportation steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware From: josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (Josh) Subject: Re: AudioCD and Apple CD150 Message-ID: <1994Jan09.180611.164966@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo References: <1994Jan6.134912.7312@isolde.stgt.sub.org> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 1994 18:06:11 GMT In article <1994Jan6.134912.7312@isolde.stgt.sub.org>, Markus Stoll <markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org> wrote: >Karsten Wolf (g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de) claimed: >> Audio-CDs donot play on Intel-Box with Apple-CD 150 > >Well, they dont play with CDPlayer.app on any NeXT. > >L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote: >> Hmmm. I bought an Apple CD150 (on sale for $150) which >> *seems* to be a white NeXT CD-ROM drive. But CDPlayer They are both sony mechs? Sony didn't make nearly as many different mech's as they had models - a lot of them simply had a different eprom. I bought a used Sun cdrom for cheap and replaced the eprom and voila! Instant Sony 541 :) Works great. So any hardware types out there with access to a next cdrom feel like seeing what other sony mech's it's compatible with? >Apparently I'm not the only one with an Apple CD150, who wants to >play Audio-CDs. I wrote a very basic audio-CD-player for > [deleted promised program] >-- >Markus Stoll, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail preferred) > stoll@vaxph.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu --> nextmail ok
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: tedm@tsoft.net (Ted Matsumura) Subject: Re: Help.. Very weird SCSI problem [ NS 2.1, 030 mono cube ] Message-ID: <CJDHp7.70w@tsoft.net> Keywords: Toshiba 3401 and Sparc2 jumper settings Organization: TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238 References: <2ghgcp$ept@ulowell.uml.edu> <2ghrlt$ji@tuegate.tue.nl> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 17:24:34 GMT I would be interested in knowing which jumper to cut on a Toshiba 3401 to make it work on a Sparc2. Thanks. Ted (tedm@rahul.net)
From: bosborne@nature.Berkeley.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fujitsu 525 in my NeXTStation Date: 9 Jan 1994 18:28:26 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9401092330.AA13688@nature.Berkeley.EDU.cnr-net> To the Group, Forgive my cross-post to *misc, I made a mistake. I would like to put my Fujitsu 525 (M2624) inside my NeXTStation, replacing my 105 Quantum. Could someone confirm that this will work, that it's not too hot in there? Also, can I do this myself, not being hardware-savvy? Thank you for your attention to this matter, Brian O. bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How much hard disk space do I really have? Date: 9 Jan 1994 23:37:52 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2gq4gg$2q7@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1994Jan9.171518.6647@iitmax.iit.edu> Keywords: hard disk space df buildisk Workspace manager In article <1994Jan9.171518.6647@iitmax.iit.edu>, Chris Conley <thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu> wrote: >Merry New Year. > >Could some kind soul sort out this confusion? I just installed a new >Fujistu M2624FA hard disk. It is supposed to have around 520 MB of space >after formatting. I have not yet put anything on it. > >Depending on what I look at, I get different information on how much space >is available: > >Upon boot up: >.... >Jan 8 14:47:41 localhost mach: FUJITSU M2624F-1024 Rev 0405 as sd1 >at sc0 target 2 lun 0 >Jan 8 14:47:41 localhost mach: Disk Label: Eames2 >Jan 8 14:47:41 localhost mach: Disk Capacity 521MB, >Device Block 1024 bytes > >df tells me: >Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on >/dev/sd0a 345542 302278 8709 97% / >/dev/sd1a 516368 10 464721 00% /Eames2 <--This one > >Workspace manager tells me 453 MB available on hard disk. > >Builddisk tells me its a 521 MB drive. > The operating system typically "reserves" 10% of the disk space for root only access. The tunefs command can be used to adjust this. You can select optimimzation for space instead of time and lower the amount of reserved space. In your case you have about 51.6 Mb reserved + 464.7 avail ~=516.3 which is the total amount of space listed above. The other 5 Mb or so are probably set aside for inodes or something similiar. I don't know why WM reports a lower figure, but of course the amount used for swap and paging is highly variable over the course of a working session. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: pincushion adjustment on next mono monitor Date: 9 Jan 1994 17:30:38 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <2gq7je$fbd@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> I need to adjust my mono monitor, if possible. My mono monitor has a small amount of pincushioning (is that the right word?) where the right hand side makes a C. This is of course a greatly exaggerated view. I measured the greatest difference as about 3/16 of an inch. I think a long time ago I read how to adjust this. Does anyone know how? It's not that bad, the only reason I ever noticed was the dock. I want to sell the monitor and so it would be better if it didn't have this defect. See picture below: | --------. | / | | | | | | | | | \ ----------. ->| |<- 3/16 inch -nick
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: Re: miroCrystal 32S info please Date: 8 Jan 1994 10:24:08 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2glu3o$2ek@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CJ6G5F.I0L@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker) writes: >Has anybody experience or know anything about the miroCrystal 32S video >board (PCI bus)? I'm thinking of getting one for a new NS/FIP machine. Any >info would be appreciated. I've seen this card with VL and 32 bit color depth. It screams! About as fast as an ATI with 16 bit! Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing NS 3.2 Date: 10 Jan 1994 07:30:44 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2gr074$nh5@galaxy.ucr.edu> I have been running NS 3.1 for a few month without any problem. I just got the new NS 3.2 and have a strange keyboard problem on the installation. This is where my keyboard got stuck. --- This program is for installing NEXTSTEP on a harddisk. If you want to install NEXTSTEP, you need to answer some questions. THIS IS NOT AN UPGRADE. IT IS A COMPLETE INSTALLATION FROM SCRATCH. Type 1 to prepare to install NEXTSTEP. Type 2 to quit. ---> _ --- This is where the keyboard got stuck. I have tried different keyboard without any luck. If I go ahead and reinstall NS 3.1 it goes smoothly from the beginning to the end. However NS 3.2 has got some kind of problem with my keyboard or something. If you know anything that could help me to solve this problem, please E-mail me ASAP! :-) Thank you! Here is my setup: 486-DX2 66 16MB RAM VGA card 340 MB IDE Harddrive 101 keyboard Adaptec 1542c SCSI controller Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM --- Thank you for your help!
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 9 Jan 1994 23:52:13 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2gqmtt$bap@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MIDI sample dump via SCSI? Date: 10 Jan 1994 09:59:17 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2gr8tl$gm1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Is there anyone out there who owns a NeXT and a Kurzweil K2000 sampler who has or might be interested in writing a program that can transfer sample data from K2000 to NeXT for editing or storage and back again? Maybe in a couple of years I can write one myself but I'd prefer to shortcut if someone else has already gone to the trouble. Or am I just beating my head against a wall looking for sequencers and sample editors for NeXTSTEP? Sometimes I hate being a niche within a niche. -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable. Time is just one damn thing after another. ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Re: AudioCD and Apple CD150 Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CJEuoB.9M4@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 11:02:35 GMT References: <1994Jan6.134912.7312@isolde.stgt.sub.org> Organization: University of Giessen, Germany In article <1994Jan6.134912.7312@isolde.stgt.sub.org>, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (Markus Stoll) writes: |> Karsten Wolf (g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de) claimed: |> > Audio-CDs donït play on Intel-Box with Apple-CD 150 |> |> Well, they dont play with CDPlayer.app on any NeXT. |> |> L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote: |> > Hmmm. I bought an Apple CD150 (on sale for $150) which |> > *seems* to be a white NeXT CD-ROM drive. But CDPlayer |> > does not work with it (it did w/ NeXT drive). |> |> Apparently I'm not the only one with an Apple CD150, who wants to |> play Audio-CDs. I wrote a very basic audio-CD-player for |> it. Unfortunately, I'm very busy right now. In february I will make a |> real CD-player out of it. If you guys cant wait and are willing to |> put up with this basic version (which allows start, stop, skipping |> tracks and shows actual track, index and time), i can place it on some |> ftp-servers. |> Yeah, put it on ftp, please. Karsten |> |> |> -- |> Markus Stoll, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail preferred) |> stoll@vaxph.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de
From: hill@iisnext2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DEC PC MTE/d2 Questions Date: 10 Jan 1994 11:52:00 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <2grfh0$gm6@cisun2000.unil.ch> We are looking at getting a DEC PC MTE/d2 with the s3-928 video and I am wondering what people would recommend for a SCSI controller and ethernet card? Just because of the bits of info from the net, I figure we should get the DPT2012/90 or DPT2022/90 for the scsi controller and the Intel Etherlink for the ethernet card. If anyone has this configuration or can give info, advice, etc please e-mail. Thank you- Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (POPMail) hill@iisnext1.unil.ch (NeXTMAIL)
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <2gklgc$oo6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Control: cancel <2gklgc$oo6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: 10 Jan 1994 13:38:48 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2grlp8$3av@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2gklgc$oo6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- //|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu // || // @ wkwong@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu //==||/\\ @ // || \\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with Seagate ST2383N jumpers Date: 10 Jan 1994 13:20:52 GMT Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <2grknk$ns5@bigboote.WPI.EDU> Keywords: Seagate, jumpers Hello all, I have a ST2383N Hard drive, and no manual, I need to know how to set the jumpers for this drive, I want to connect it to a NeXTstation. Any help or pointers would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance, Joel Belog
From: chris@doublon.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: boot with NS I on a external SCSI drive Date: 10 Jan 1994 15:10:09 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <2grr4h$ft1@taloa.unice.fr> I've an urgent big question. I've a IBM PSVP with its own harddrive where the PCDOS is installed. A SCSI hard drive is connected on an adaptec AHA-1540C/1542C SCSI card, and on this drive there is NS I 3.2. But I can't boot from this one. The "card" ask me if I want to boot from SCSI but fter this...nothing else and th boot process stop, wiht no message. Does anyone could help me ? thanks.... PS : If it is necessary I have the original CDROM of NSI with its floppy disk. --------------------------------------------------------------------- from chris@doublon.unice.fr <TAGGIASCO Christian> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EISA/VL Bus Motherboards? Message-ID: <1994Jan10.160542.17697@Princeton.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 94 16:05:42 GMT Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Originator: news@nimaster I am curiuos about which EISA/VL Bus motherboards are working (out there among my fellow users) with NEXTSTEP for Intel? Has anyone compiled a list of boards that work, with performance information? If you have put together your own system, using an off-the-shelf EISA/VL motherboard, I would be interested in your experience, regarding ease-of-installation and performance. Any e-mail responses will be summarized in this group. Thanks for any information. Phil Menos -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanners for NS/I?? Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 08:49:27 Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis Message-ID: <nemiroal.10.0008D34A@bus.orst.edu> Keywords: scanners Hello, I am just wondering if anyone knows of any scanners that are supported for NS/Intel. I am looking for a high resolution color flatbed type in particular. thanks. -Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: 2 graphics boards for NSFIP? Message-ID: <1994Jan10.104756.8170@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Mon, 10 Jan 94 10:47:56 GMT Is anybody running NEXTSTEP on an Intel machine with two graphics boards/monitors? Does NSFIP support such a configuration? Thanks, A. Ploeger -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel 1, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) Subject: Re: miroCrystal 32S info please References: <2glu3o$2ek@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 17:40:34 GMT Message-ID: <CJFD3n.6Dt@percy.rain.com> I have the 32s PCI in a GW 2000 P5 I run the board at both 1152x832 16bit and 1024x768 32bit.. Works great.. Here is a list of supported res's.. "10" = "640-bw8-64 640 x 480 BW:8 @ 60Hz (60 kHz)"; "20" = "640-bw8-80 640 x 480 BW:8 (80 kHz)"; "30" = "640-rgb888-60 640 x 480 RGB:888/32 (60 kHz)"; "40" = "800-bw8-60 800 x 600 BW:8 (60 kHz)"; "50" = "800-rgb555-64 800 x 600 RGB:555/16 (64 kHz)"; "60" = "800-rgb555-80 800 x 600 RGB:555/16 (80 kHz)"; "70" = "800-rgb888-64 800 x 600 RGB:888/32 (64 kHz)"; "80" = "1024-bw8-60-72 1024 x 768 BW:8 @ 72Hz (60 kHz)"; "90" = "1024-bw8-64-76 1024 x 768 BW:8 @ 76Hz (64 kHz)"; "100" = "1024-rgb555-60-70 1024 x 768 RGB:555/16 @ 70Hz (60 kHz)"; "110" = "1024-rgb555-64-74 1024 x 768 RGB:555/16 @ 74Hz (64 kHz)"; "120" = "1024-rgb555-80-78 1024 x 768 RGB:555/16 @ 78Hz (80 kHz)"; "130" = "1024-rgb888-80-72 1024 x 768 RGB:888/32 @ 72Hz (80 kHz)"; "140" = "1152-bw8-60-62 1152 x 864 BW:8 @ 62Hz (60 kHz)"; "150" = "1152-bw8-64-70 1152 x 864 BW:8 @ 70Hz (64 kHz)"; "160" = "1152-rgb555-60-62 1152 x 864 RGB:555/16 @ 62Hz (60 kHz)"; "170" = "1152-rgb555-64-70 1152 x 864 RGB:555/16 @ 70Hz (64 kHz)"; "180" = "1152-rgb555-80-76 1152 x 864 RGB:555/16 @ 76Hz (80 kHz)"; "190" = "1152-rgb888-80-60 1152 x 864 RGB:888/32 @ 60Hz (80 kHz)"; "200" = "1280-bw8-64-60 1280 x 1024 BW:8 @ 60Hz (64 kHz)"; "210" = "1280-bw8-80-70 1280 x 1024 BW:8 @ 70Hz (80 kHz)"; "220" = "1280-rgb555-64-60 1280 x 1024 RGB:555/16 @ 60Hz (64 kHz)"; "230" = "1280-rgb555-80-70 1280 x 1024 RGB:555/16 @ 70Hz (80 kHz)"; "240" = "1408-bw8-80-66 1408 x 1024 BW:8 @ 66Hz (80kHz)"; "250" = "1408-bw8-80-74 1408 x 1024 BW:8 @ 74Hz (80kHz)"; "260" = "1408-rgb555-80-66 1408 x 1024 RGB:555/16 @ 66Hz (80 kHz)"; "270" = "1408-rgb555-80-74 1408 x 1024 RGB:555/16 @ 74Hz (80 kHz)"; Not bad... -- Steve Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com NeXTmail OK..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Serial Port Driver that works at 19200 Message-ID: <CJF5oE.MB8@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Summary: Well here it is, the long awaited for Serial Driver that works on NS/FIP Keywords: 16550 Serial Ports Driver Organization: VE6MGS Gateway Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 15:00:12 GMT I appologise for cross posting to the three major technical groups, but I feel that the need has been expressed in all these groups for a Serial Driver thats works. This is an Alpha (24 hour testing only) release of the Serial Driver I have written. Version numbers mean nothing to me, my wings are like a shield of steel. The driver you will find enclosed is not yet polished, but is workable for people that understand at least a little bit about coding and hacking with the Instance0 Table. Out of the wrapper, this sofware supports the DigiBoard 8 and 4 cards without any Configuration. IT will support a single (non-multiplexed) serial port with an edited Instance0.table, the Default Configuration Application is *not* up to the task of adjusting the port addresses adequately. If you wish to manually load up the app, use `/etc/use/driverLoader d=Mux8 v' and answer yes to all the questions. The startup log of the driver will be in /usr/adm/messages (or on the console if you are running Single User Mode). The code is a Unix Level Kernel Driver with *direct* connections to the Interrupt. It is disingenuous to say the least if I were to call this an Object Advantage. I would have released this a week earlier had I not tried to make it connect to the broken(?) DriverKit on NS/FIP 3.2. I am getting 1300c/s (receive) performance through this port, and have only had 24 hours of testing waiting for a crash of the OS ... It has been tested on 3.2, but should work on 3.1 based Intel systems. I have plans on completing the Configuration Inspector, getting the PostLoader to handle multiple instances of the driver. I have intentions of building another driver for the 8530, Ottawa PI card with DMA on one of the ports, so if anyone has some work on a Intel based driver I would be interested. Please send bug reports, fixes, and code segments to be included in this project to mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Salyzyn) (alternate addresses include mark@adec23.UUCP, mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org, mark@ve6mgs.UUCP). Use this driver at your own risk. Ciao, -- Mark Salyzyn # run uudecode | gunzip | tar -xvf and will create a source tree in the # current directory called Mux8. 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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSi & 1024b/s disks... Message-ID: <Jan.10.14.05.22.1994.16323@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 10 Jan 94 19:05:22 GMT References: <2gk5cr$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2gkh2d$1ka@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <Jan.7.19.02.43.1994.5276@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: >>> John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote: >>> : Its come to my attention that NSi will not work on a 1024b/s formatted >>disk. >> The Fall 1993 NEXTSTEP In Focus flatly states that PC SCSI cards can't >>handle boot disks formatted at anything other than 512 bytes/block. So >>maybe 512 bytes/block is standard in the PC world :-( Well here's the poop... NS/intel can mount an use 1024b/s drives with no problems. And it makes sense that it does, because CD's use 2048b/s, I think, so other b/s capacities can be used. I did a 1024b/s format of my drive on my NeXT, and then brought it to the intel machine, booted it with a NS/i 512b/s disk and used BuildDisk.app to make a boot disk of the 1024b/s drive. That all worked fine and dandy, however, the machine refueses to boot from the 1024b/s drive. I hangs right at the boot manager that lets you choose which partition you want to boot from. It seems sill for it not to work since the 1024b/s drive IS usable after booting from a 512b/s NS/i device. Some one sent me mail telling me they have a setup where they use a floppy to kick onto the 1024b/s drive. What does this tell me...That there is no reason why NS/i couldnt/shouldnt work with 1024b/s drives, and NeXT would probbly only have to make a minor mod to their boot software. I guess in the mean time I'll have to go back to 512b/s on the the intel machine and use 1024 on the NeXT. And, boy the 1024 makes a HUGE difference, about 25% speedup and 5% more disk space. Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: choyt@boi.hp.com (Craig Hoyt) Subject: Black box paint color] Sender: news@boi.hp.com (Boise Site News Server) Message-ID: <CJFMnE.GKA@boi.hp.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 21:06:50 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho I am looking for a spray paint to match the original black box so I can spray paint a couple of accessories to match the cube. If anyone knows a company and color name that matches, I would appreciate a response. Thanks in advance - Craig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) Subject: PAS16 Basic Questions Message-ID: <CJFM4t.ErA@ceco.ceco.com> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. Distribution: na Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 20:55:41 GMT Hi. I just got a PAS16 Basic (in an ISA/VESA system), and was wondering if a new driver will be out to allow DMA channels 4,5,6 to wrok, or if it's an actual kernel bug that prevents it. Also, has anyone had any luck recording 16-bit stereo sound from the line in on this card (or the regular PAS16)? I can read from the microphone, but (even in Windows) don't get any sound read in from the line in. Is there a gain adjustment for the input under NeXTSTEP?? Maybe a control program planned or out there already? Thanks for any info! (This is such a lousy experience compared to the black machines... sigh.) Thanks again. Mike Stepniczka mikes@ceco.ceco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com (Tom Meyer) Subject: Re: SLIP using PNI 1.6 + SupraModem Message-ID: <1994Jan10.215012.3702@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <1994Jan8.021304.223@kth.se> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 21:50:12 GMT Speaking of this, has anyone got the PNI SLIP client package configured with an Intel 144e 14.4bps modem? I guess I'm just lazy and don't want to have to mess with all the Tcl scripts myself :-) Somebody? Anybody? thanks, tom meyer tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com tmeyer@mcs.com Erik Lundstr m writes > Im trying to configure PNI 1.6beta for my Intel machine. I want to use > > PNI as a SLIP server (and client at the same time) using my SupraFaxModem > V.32bis. > > So, if somebody have written a TCL-script for the supramodem Im VERY > > interested. > > I can be reached at my friends account: > > d91-elu@nada.kth.se > > best regards, > > David Wallin. -- #include <disclaimer.h> /* Opinions expressed are mine */ /* and mine alone. */ /* */ /* tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peterb@marvin.ptltd.com (Peter Barada) Subject: Any troubles with the Sony 7811 CD-ROM drive? Message-ID: <CJFp8J.HIL@blackhole.ptltd.com> Sender: root@blackhole.ptltd.com (Operator) Organization: Phoenix Tech Ltd. Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 22:02:41 GMT Subject says it all. I can't afford a NEC3Xi so I hope that the Sony 7811 will work. Any troubles with the 7811, and does it 'work out of the box'? Mail responses, I'll summerize. -- Peter Barada / peterb@ptltd.com Phoenix Technologies Ltd. / Peripherals Group / 617-551-5000 (USA) Clone the Bone!!! / Opinions are mine; Phoenix cloned them from me...
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How to change SCSI ID on original Cube Maxtor XT-8380S ? Date: 10 Jan 1994 23:29:59 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2gsodn$pn3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Finally I got a bigger drive for my old Cube which originally had a Maxtor XT-8380S (330 MB). Now I want to use this drive in another machine and I have to change the SCSI ID to do that. Does anybody have info on the jumper settings, especially SCSI ID, of these drives ? Before I forget, would I have to change the formatting to 512 bytes/sector to use the drive with NS/FIP or DOS ? Thanks for any info, Ernst. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SLIP using PNI 1.6 Date: 10 Jan 1994 23:21:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2gsntk$g2u@news.service.uci.edu> I I finally got PNI 1.6 kind of working on a Intel 486/33. However, it is disappointingly slow, much slower than a direct dial-in modem link. I have a 14.4k internal modem. With Kermit or Procomm under DOS, it is very fast. When I cat a long file, I can see the screeen scrolling continuously like a directly linked terminal. The reponse to a Contol-C is almost instant. With SLIP under DOS, the above process becomes much slower, I have to wait for the screen to scroll and if I do Control-C, I have to wait forever before it kills the cat. With PNI 1.6 under NeXTSTEP, it seemed even slower, it seems never to finishe! My question is (1) Is SLIP connection generally much slower than a direct modem dial in? (2) If the answer to (1) is negative, are there any settings that I did not do correctly? By the way, I set my serial port speed to be 38.4K. Any info is appreciated. Thank you. Feng Liu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSi & 1024b/s disks... Message-ID: <Jan.10.18.35.27.1994.9505@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 10 Jan 94 23:35:28 GMT References: <2gk5cr$icg@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2gkh2d$1ka@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <Jan.7.19.02.43.1994.5276@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <Jan.10.14.05.22.1994.16323@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >why NS/i couldnt/shouldnt work with 1024b/s drives, and NeXT would probbly >only have to make a minor mod to their boot software. I guess in the mean >time I'll have to go back to 512b/s on the the intel machine and use 1024 on >the NeXT. And, boy the 1024 makes a HUGE difference, about 25% speedup and Some one from next told me that the real problem is with the SCSI controllers have a problem booting at 1024b/s--Although DPT claims it can be done with corelSCSI drivers... Anyway, the new question of the day is if anyone knows how to boot an intel machine on a higher SCSI ID. EX. @ ID = 2 an empty optical drive @ ID = 4 a SCSI HD drive Now if nothing is in the OD, the controller kicks to SCSI ID 4 and starts to boot on SCSI ID 4, but halfway through it dies. Now I know if at the boot manager you do a "bsd(4,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd4" <--this is really next rom monitor boot commands and intel maybe a bit different, but the same principle holds. With the boot command you can manually kick sucessfully to the higher ID device, but what I want to know is, how can I have the system default to the higher ID device automatically without any interaction? I know on a next computer, you can set a default boot command in the rom monitor that will be remembered and booted from, and in this way a higher ID # boot can be done. Is there something similar on an intel machine? BTW, the reason for all of this is, I want to be able to use the OD to boot into DOS whenever I stick in a DOS OD, but otherwise have my NS/i HD boot. Thanks for the help! Later, John
From: paulc@leland.stanford.edu (Paul Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will this gateway 2000 work? Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 16:29:21 Organization: Stanford University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <paulc.18.00107DBF@leland.stanford.edu> Summary: SCSI, etc work with NSi Keywords: gateway I have a gateway 2000 dx266v (16MB, etc). Viper card. Just ordered the SoundBlaster SCSI-2. Going to get a cd-rom drive- thinking of the nec 3xi. Will this config work? Like will nsi be able to use a cdrom drive hooked up to this SCSI sound card (I know you need an scsi cdrom drive.)?Does anyone else has a similar config...? I read that the nec 3xp does not work with ns. How about the 3xi? Thanks ---paul
From: dario@voluptas (Dario Ringach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No CD-ROM found (during NS/I 3.2 installation) Help! Date: 11 Jan 1994 01:13:08 GMT Organization: New York University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gsuf4$8f9@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> I'm trying to install NS 3.2 on a Gateway DX2/66V. During the process I get these messages (only relevant parts included): .... .... sd1: TOSHIBA CD-ROM DRIVE: XM 1971 sd1: Illegal request; FATAL. target:2 lun:0 op:Mode Sense Registering: sd1 at Target 2 LUN 0 at sc0 .... .... No CD-ROM drive found use sd%d, hd%d or fd%d root device? Everything seems to be configured as suggested in the NeXTAnswers notes. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance... -- Dario
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP Notebooks Date: 11 Jan 1994 01:50:00 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gt0k8$8au@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Keywords: NEXTSTEP Notebook NSProducts introduces two Nextstep Notebooks; a 33MHz low cost model, and a 66MHz high end model - both suitable as workstations. Both are based on the Ergo PowerBrick series with the NEXTSTEP operating system preinstalled. The entry level notebook has an i486DX 33MHz processor and 9.7 inch passive matrix grayscale display. The high end notebook has an i486DX2 66MHz processor and 9.5 inch active matrix color display. Both come with a choice of 16 or 32MB of RAM, along with a 340MB hard drive, local bus graphics, 1MB VRAM, 2 PCMCIA Type II/1 Type III slot, internal modem slot, 2 serial ports, video port, parallel port, keyboard port, mouse port, and a trackball placed at the base of the keyboard similar the Macintosh Powerbook. The docking station contains two ISA slots, 2 serial ports, video port, parallel port, keyboard port, and mouse port. To provide more information about this computer, the attachment below has been copied from an article in the January issue of Windows magazine without permission. Differences between the machine being offered by NSP and the one tested in the article below are that the NSP offer contains a 340MB instead of 200MB hard drive, 16-32MB instead of 8MB RAM, and the NEXTSTEP OS and drivers instead of the MicroSoft OS and drivers. In addition to the article below those seeking more information may consult the January '94 issue of Unix World's Open Computing. An article beginning on page 87 compares 8 laptop computers running SCO Unix. The article praised the Powerbrick for its speed, large RAM capacity, price, and excellent options. It also suggests running SCO on the IBM ThinkPad 750c, however the ThinkPad has not been able to run NEXTSTEP. The Powerbrick's 32MB RAM capacity, 66MHz processor, and 1MB VRAM make it the best choice for running the NEXTSTEP operating system. Ergo PowerBrick 66 Good Speed and Fine PCMCIA Support The Ergo PowerBrick 66, $4,495, has the muscle to handle almost any Windows program along with the ergonomic detailing necessary to appease even finicky users. Its computing power comes from a 66-MHz DX2 with 8MB of RAM (expandable to 32MB); a 200MB Toshiba IDE hard disk drive; a 3.5-inch, 1.44MB floppy disk drive; and a 9.5-inch active-matrix color display. The system also features a well-positioned, integrated trackball; two Type II PCMCIA slots; and a collection of drivers for various PCMCIA devices. A docking station is available as an option. The PowerBrick 66 scored a 27 on our Winstone test, third among the five systems we tested. DISPLAY Ergo's Hitachi-manufactured display is extremely readable for Windows applications. The screen can support an internal resolution of 640 by 480 with 256 colors or drive an external monitor at 1,024 by 768 with 256 colors. With 1MB of video RAM (most tested had just 512), the Ergo can drive an external monitor at up to 1,280 by 1,024, though with only 16 colors. Simultaneous display is supported at the same resolution on each screen. The PowerBrick 66, with an accelerated local-bus graphics controller from Western Digital, turned out to be one of our best video performers, with a score of 11.3 million pixels per second on the Graphics WinMark test. Ergo includes a wide range of video drivers and a VESA-compliant BIOS on the Western Digital chip. Flash BIOS lets you make driver changes easily. Brightness is controlled by a keystroke combination. Overall, the display was very good, with no ghosting or distortion over a wide range of Windows programs. The 85-key keyboard features good key travel and a decent typing feel, although the response was a bit loose. All major screen control functions (Page Up, Home, and so forth) have dedicated keys; the keyboard also features the favored inverted-T cursor arrangement. There were no nonstandard key placements to impede intensive use. Along with the AMS and Austin (which share similar styles), the Ergo had far and away the best trackball. Placed below and centered on the keypad (like the PowerBook), the trackball can be used easily without removing either hand from the keyboard, a big boon for touch typists. The only drawback here, and one shared by all of the tested units, is that the feel of the trackball itself was less crisp than a good clip-on pointing device. Still, this is a fine pointer. HARD DISK Ergo's 13-ms 200MB Toshiba hard disk drive is mounted internally and is user-upgradeable. The system placed second on our Hard Disk WinMarks test, with a score of 420 kilobytes per second, a fine score without the use of a local-bus disk controller. The internal floppy-disk drive is mounted in the center front of the system, another nice design detail, as front-mounted drivers are generally easier to work with and don't interfere with clip-on pointing devices. The PowerBrick includes a nicad battery (extras cost $149). A $249 nickel hydride battery is available. and provides average battery life for a color system. On our rundown test, the .75- by 2.5- by 8-inch battery lasted for 1.37 hours. You can recharge the system in 6 hours when it is operating or 2 hours when it is turned off. The AC adapter weighs 5 ounces. Power management options include a sleep mode, suspend, and various subsystem power-down options. With maximum power management, we were able to get a bit over 3 hours of use from the machine on battery power. The 6.3 pound (with battery) PowerBrick measures 2 by 11.1 by 8.6 inches. With its normal traveling accessories, the system weighs about 7.5 pounds. Expandability and connectivity features abound. The Ergo system comes with two Type II PCMCIA slots and System Soft's Card Soft 2.1, which are PCMCIA drivers that supports a wide array of PCMCIA peripherals. Ergo also offers an internal fax modem that can be used without occupying a PCMCIA slot. You get the convenience of two serial ports along with parallel, mouse, and external keyboard ports. A docking-station port is also standard. The $395 optional docking station gives you two ISA slots along with port replication. The six-light LED panel covers power, drive, battery, and locking key status. You can upgrade the memory and hard disk easily. Ergo backs its system with toll-free technical support between the hours of 8 and 6 (eastern time), documentation that is average, and a one-year parts and labor warranty. No extended warranty is offered. The Ergo PowerBrick 66 is one of the top machines we tested, with plenty of power, excellent drivers and video response, a fine integrated trackball, and good support. Plus, if you by three or more, the price to $4,045 per unit. With its speedy response and volume discount, the PowerBrick is definitely an appealing product. ====================================================================== NSProducts, PO Box 1555, Cambridge MA 02238, USA Name: _____________________________________________________________ Company: _____________________________________________________________ Address: _____________________________________________________________ : _____________________________________________________________ : _____________________________________________________________ Country: _____________________________________________________________ Phone W: _____________________________________________________________ Phone H: _____________________________________________________________ Email: _____________________________________________________________ Payment by (circle one): Visa Master Card Money Order Check Credit Card #: Expiration date: Academic NEXTSTEP Serial #: ACADEMIC PURCHASES of NEXTSTEP must be made through your campus reseller first. Send us your NS serial number and we will ship the NSP Notebook with NEXTSTEP preinstalled. Price x Price Quantity Quantity A. 33DX 340/16 no software $3,200 ______ ___________ B. 66DX2 340/16 no software 5,100 ______ ___________ C. Additional 16MB RAM 1,300 ______ ___________ D. Academic Installation 50 ______ ___________ E. NS/i 3.2 User preinstalled 525 ______ ___________ F. NS/i 3.2 Developer preinstalled 1,350 ______ ___________ G. Docking Station 300 ______ ___________ SUBTOTAL ______ ___________ Mass. residents only - 5% sales tax (.05 x Subtotal) ___________ Shipping and Handling Charge US: ______ ___________ $50 for each Notebook, $25 for each Dock Shipping and Handling Charge International ______ ___________ $125 for each Notebook $50 for each Dock TOTAL PAYMENT ___________ 1 year warranty on parts and labor. Undamaged items may be returned within 15 days for refund. A 10% restocking fee will be charged for returned items. Send to: NSProducts PO Box 1555 Cambridge, MA 02238 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: NEC 3x (triple speed CD-ROM?) Message-ID: <1994Jan11.020515.9648@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 02:05:15 GMT I've seen this asked a couple of times, but I haven't seen an answer yet. Has anyone tried the triple speed CD-ROMS with NEXTSTEP, NS/FIP in particular? Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau) Subject: Re: NEC 3x (triple speed CD-ROM?) Message-ID: <1994Jan11.044739.22403@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 References: <1994Jan11.020515.9648@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 04:47:39 GMT caro@adobe.com writes: > Has anyone tried the triple speed CD-ROMS with NEXTSTEP, NS/FIP in > particular? Yes. It works. I posted the original question and have since bought and installed the NEC 3xi internal drive in my gateway (486/66V). Seems to work fine with NS/FIP - used it to upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2. It was easy to install (plug and play), and it really is pretty fast. David
From: dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: miroCrystal 32S info please Date: 11 Jan 1994 04:55:53 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine Message-ID: <2gtbgp$jq4@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <2glu3o$2ek@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <CJFD3n.6Dt@percy.rain.com> In <CJFD3n.6Dt@percy.rain.com>, steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) writes: )I have the 32s PCI in a GW 2000 P5 I run the board at both 1152x832 16bit )and 1024x768 32bit.. Works great.. Here is a list of supported res's.. )"130" = "1024-rgb888-80-72 1024 x 768 RGB:888/32 @ 72Hz (80 kHz)"; .. )"180" = "1152-rgb555-80-76 1152 x 864 RGB:555/16 @ 76Hz (80 kHz)"; )"190" = "1152-rgb888-80-60 1152 x 864 RGB:888/32 @ 60Hz (80 kHz)"; .. )"230" = "1280-rgb555-80-70 1280 x 1024 RGB:555/16 @ 70Hz (80 kHz)"; ) )Not bad... Not bad, but why can't it do 1152 x 864 32bit @ 70Hz. Probably some kind of internal bandwidth limit because it is moving 32bits rather than 16bits. But this is too bad, because basically it means that if you want 32bit color you must use 1024x768 or have a headache at 1152x864 (because it is only 60Hz).
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing hard drive question-- Date: 9 Jan 1994 13:54:18 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2goupq$bfs@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Jan6.204347.10453@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) writes: >It only gives me ~210mb free (i forget exactly how much, but it's nowhere >near 245)! The only files on it are the lost&found and the .hidden. >Fdisk tells me that the drive is only something like 213 mb; does this >mean that it will format only in DOS to 245mb? Normally, the size of hard disk in ads is the unformatted size, because the formatted size depends on the type of file system you intend to use. The difference you noticed is quite normal. The formatted size under DOS will most probably be a little bit larger, because the BSD file system needs a bit more space for internal purposes than the dumb DOS fs (If you may call it a fs at all :-) My 520 MB Fujitsu drive leaves about 495 MB for NeXTSTEP. So don't worry. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Date: 10 Jan 1994 14:32:35 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2grldj$8v@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CJ6wDs.FsI@pdh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rnielsen@everest.com (Robert D. Nielsen) writes: >I would like to know what the net thinks the best machine is (money is no >object). >Is there a Pentium-66 motherboard with PCI and EISA? >Is there _a_ supported PCI SCSI-2 daughter card? >Is the PCI Diamond Viper daughter card supported? Forget about it. I'm sure the best machine for NeXTSTEP you can purchase in 1994 will be a HP Gecko. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: jpg1@u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SLIP using PNI 1.6 Date: 11 Jan 1994 07:13:36 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2gtjj0$atg@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2gsntk$g2u@news.service.uci.edu> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: >I I finally got PNI 1.6 kind of working on a Intel 486/33. >However, it is disappointingly slow, much slower than a direct dial-in >modem link. >I have a 14.4k internal modem. >With Kermit or Procomm under DOS, it is very fast. >When I cat a long file, I can see the screeen scrolling continuously >like a directly linked terminal. The reponse to a Contol-C is almost >instant. >With SLIP under DOS, the above process becomes much slower, >I have to wait for the screen to scroll and if I do Control-C, >I have to wait forever before it kills the cat. >With PNI 1.6 under NeXTSTEP, it seemed even slower, it seems never to >finishe! >My question is >(1) Is SLIP connection generally much slower than a direct modem dial in? >(2) If the answer to (1) is negative, are there any settings that I > did not do correctly? >By the way, I set my serial port speed to be 38.4K. I'm not a total expert on this, but I've noticed problems on both DOS and NS/I on my system if I run the serial port at 38.4. In my case, I have an external modem, but apparently not a very sophisticated UART in my serial port (BTW, it's a 6-month-old Gateway 2000 66DX2...apparently Gateway does not believe in sticking high-speed serial adapters even in their high-end machines...prospective Gateway customers out there beware!), since the serial port will basically drop a character every now and again. I think that in NeXTSTEP's case, the serial driver prevents the serial port from functioning reliably above 19.2. In any case, whether it be your UART (shouldn't be a problem for your internal) or (more likely) NS's driver, occaisonal character dropouts can wreak major havok under certain conditions. They aren't really a problem if you're using, say, Kermit to emulate a VT100 or something (i.e. you don't have any error checking between the software and the modem) since only 1 character in something like a few thousand is dropped. However, if your running SLIP or doing a ZMODEM file transfer or something, your throughput REALLY plummets since it ends up re-transmitting packets/blocks. On the other hand, I really haven't had many problems with SLIP at 38.4. It doesn't seem to be drastically slow, although I've done some experiments ftping files and found that 19.2 actually gives slightly, though not drastically, better throughput. If you're running at 14.4 on your modem, then running your serial port at 19.2 shouldn't really be that bad. Again, like I say, I'm definitely NOT an expert, but that is my theory after fiddling with my modem under DOS and NS for the past few months. If anybody else out there knows more about this kind of stuff and thinks my theory is hogwash, please let me know. Hope this helps, anyhow. --Jeff Gardner gardner@astro.washington.edu
From: jpg1@u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems using interal audio input jack in PAS 16 Date: 11 Jan 1994 07:33:07 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2gtknj$b4t@news.u.washington.edu> Keywords: sound ProAudio I just got a new CD-ROM (NEC 3xi) and tried playing audio CD's with it in NS/I 3.2. The CDPlayer app seems to work fine, but I can't seem to get the PAS card to get audio using the internal jack which connect the (internal) audio output from the CD-ROM to the PAS. Under DOS, for instance, if I play an audio CD, the audio signal will be routed from the PAS internal input jack to the external speaker jack...thus allowing me to hear the CD playing through my speakers which are plugged into the PAS (this eliminates the need of having to reconnect my speakers to the headphone jack on the CD-ROM). In NS, this doesn't work. I also can't record sound from the internal jack using Sound.app...something which DOES work if I plug in a CD player using the EXTERNAL input jack. I assume that CDPlayer.app is meant to play sound out of the PAS speaker jack, since it has a volume control on the bottom. I'm sure the cable and everything are fine since everything works perfecly in DOS. Has anyone else had problems like this? --Jeff Gardner gardner@astro.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Subject: HP Gecko is for real (only a few days away from release) Message-ID: <CJGH3n.9E2@unix.portal.com> Summary: HP Gecko is here! Keywords: HP, Open Systems Today Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 08:04:33 GMT The rumor has been confirmed by Open Systems Today. The HP Gecko is here! Although, we'll have to wait for 7 days to find out if it runs NeXTStep now! I just can't believe the features included for the price. Features: (From Open Systems Today) CPU (HP-PA Risc) Performance Benchmarks: Spec. Floating Point 130 (486 DX2 is only 16, Pentium is only 60) Spec. Integer (can't rember, I think about 60, not more that 80) Fast Video with 32 bit Color (Good luck finding that on Intel) Memory: 16 Megs of RAM Disk: at least 260 MB Way Cool Stuff: Full 44.1 khz 16 bit Stereo digital audio Full Motion MPEG Digital Video playback at 30 fps ( they didn't say the RES.) Built in JPEG picture decompression (No more waiting for those cool pictures from alt.binaries.pictures.* to decompress ) Some kind of Telepony support. (Maybe Voice Mail? ISDN Basic Rate Interface?) How much would you pay? $50,000? $100,000? No, you'll be able to get the whole system for only: Price: $3,995 <=== Yes, that's it! Brad Wright wwright@premisys.com wwright@shell.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: NEC 3x (triple speed CD-ROM?) Message-ID: <CJG3t2.7Aq@nextsrv1.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <1994Jan11.020515.9648@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 03:17:25 GMT In article <1994Jan11.020515.9648@adobe.com> caro@mv.us.adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: >Has anyone tried the triple speed CD-ROMS with NEXTSTEP, NS/FIP in >particular? I've used a NEC 3Xe with turbo black hardware and two NS/FIP machines, with the Adaptec 1542c and DPT 2021 with no problems in NS. However, SoftPC couldn't recognize a DOS game CD (Iron Helix) as ISO-9660. NS mounted it just fine as an ISO-9660 disk. I gave up since SoftPC uses 32k or 64k color mode in Windows whereas Iron Helix wanted 256 color palette mode. I didn't try with another CD drive to see if it was the drive or SoftPC. Good luck! -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: What soundboard is actually working on Intel (paired with AHA1542cf)? Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CJGLx4.4y7@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 09:48:40 GMT Organization: University of Giessen, Germany Well, I keep reading about problems with the PAS16 board. Nobody can record with it, it freezes with heavy HD-traffic etc. What board should one buy (pricerange < $250)? Are there any drivers for the SoundBlaster16ASP in sight? Sigh, Karsten D. Wolf (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) Subject: Fading Megapixel display Message-ID: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 14:14:00 GMT Now that the warranty period on my NeXTstation Turbo has expired, the Megapixel monitor (2-bit grayscale) seems to be having difficulty. It is getting dimmer and dimmer. As a rough estimate, I'd say that its peak intensity is half that of the other NeXTstation in my office. Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any way to fix it? I'm starting to get eyestrain from working on it. -- Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." Friedrich von Schiller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: clef@aber.ac.uk (Jim Finnis) Subject: Slab PSU wanted Message-ID: <1994Jan11.143304.23819@aber.ac.uk> Keywords: slab, power, wanted Sender: news@aber.ac.uk (USENET news service) Organization: Clef Digital Systems Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 14:33:04 GMT Hi - we're looking for a European source for a power supply for a slab. Our old, unwarrantied NeXTStation supply blew up this morning. If anyone knows anywhere (preferably UK) where we can get these things, I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks in advance, Jim -- Clef Digital Systems - will not quote Vicki Robinson for food...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ddp@wavesworld.base.bellcore.com (David D. Pascua) Subject: Projecting NeXT screens Message-ID: <CJH1n1.IA6@walter.bellcore.com> Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com Organization: Bellcore References: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 15:28:12 GMT Hi all, Does anyone out there have any experiences projecting NeXT screens (you know, for presentation purposes)? Does it matter whether we're using a ColorStation or a Cube? Our AV department is clueless about NeXTs -- they've barely heard of them. They do, however, know how to project Suns and Macs. I've noticed that the connector on the NeXTColorStation's monitor matches those on Sun monitors, anyone know if the same signals go over the same pins? Oh, if this is in the FAQ, my apologies, but I couldn't find it. A pointer would be appreciated. -Dave ddp@cc.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: HP Gecko vs. Indigo Performance? Message-ID: <1994Jan11.135550.8131@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 13:55:50 GMT The Gecko looks too good to be true! Looks like HP has a real winner on its hands. Does anyone have any idea how the Gecko stacks up to the SGI Indy and Indigo? (Let's just hope HP avoids fuscia or lime green color schemes:-) Would black be too much to ask for? Steve Sarich III Talus Corporation steve@talus.com
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mouse gets crazy every now and then under NSI Date: 11 Jan 1994 17:42:10 +0200 Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Distribution: world Message-ID: <2guhci$oi@cc.tut.fi> I'm having a weird problem with a 66 MHz 486 running NSI. Every now and then the mouse goes nuts (it's worse than Mac's mouse!). Moving mouse makes the arrow jump all over the screen and pressing button makes the arrow go down on the screen about an inch or so. This machine I'm talking about is at work and I always leave it on over night and usually this happens in the morning when I first move the mouse to unblank the screen. Any ideas what might cause this? Second problem.. NSI works just fine and floppy does, too, but when the system boots up, it takes about 5 minutes. Floppy controller causes it. NSI tries to reset floppy controller 5-6 times and then goes on (gives up?). Floppy, however, works just fine. If I put a floppy in side the drive during the reset period, it says that fc0 ok and goes on. But I'm not very anxious to find out a floppy every time I boot the system... All help appreciated. -- Doctor, doctor! I suck. You've gotta help me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Serial Port Driver that works at 19200 Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 16:42:06 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan11.164206.10552@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <CJF5oE.MB8@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Keywords: 16550 Serial Ports Driver mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) writes: >Please send bug reports, fixes, and code segments to be included in this >project to mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Salyzyn) (alternate addresses include >mark@adec23.UUCP, mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org, mark@ve6mgs.UUCP). Use this driver >at your own risk. There is a bug in my driver with handling !ANYP parity (resulting from getty miving into the Password: phase on 7 bit logins, ie from default tips into the machine) and with locking (cufc/ttydfc) for bidirectional lines. They are both pesky and I am looking into them. Ciao, -- Mark Salyzyn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters) Subject: Recording directly from a cdplayer Message-ID: <1994Jan11.153225.23095@info.ucl.ac.be> Keywords: DSP, COAXIAL, CD, DIGITAL OUTPUT Sender: news@info.ucl.ac.be (News Administrator) Organization: Computer Science Department, Catholic University of Louvain Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 15:32:25 GMT Hi, I'm desperately trying to record directly from a CDplayer... This cabling should normally be efficient to record a song from a classical CDplayer... But it failed. The problem seems to be with Record.app... Any help would be very appreciated . Thank you very much ! Eric Smeesters Laboratoire de Telecommunications de l'UCL. 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From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting to Net via AUI port on Intel EtherExpress Date: 11 Jan 1994 17:14:26 GMT Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <2gumpiINN8us@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: AUI port , net, Intel EtherExpress I'm trying to connect to the local thick ethernet via the AUI port on an Intel EtherExpress and a transceiver. The PC is running NS3.2 and is configured stand alone. I can ping localhost and my own internet number, but with everything else I get a connection timed out error. Any ideas? Is it not possible to use the AUI port on the Intel EtherExpress? Thanks, jk jklinke@ucsd.edu
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP Gecko vs. Indigo Performance? Date: 11 Jan 1994 16:49:36 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gulb0$sj2@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1994Jan11.135550.8131@talus.com> In article <1994Jan11.135550.8131@talus.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: > The Gecko looks too good to be true! Looks like HP has a real winner on > its hands. Does anyone have any idea how the Gecko stacks up to the SGI > Indy and Indigo? (Let's just hope HP avoids fuscia or lime green color > schemes:-) Would black be too much to ask for? > Here are a few comparisons: Machine Indy Gecko Specfp92: 35 130 (? 65, more likely) Graphics: 8bit 24bit Memory: 8Mb 16Mb Disk: none 240Mb Price: $5000 $4000 NEXTSTEP: No Yes This is for the minimum systems, from all I've heard and read. NEXTSTEP will probably not be available initially, but coming sometime later in the first quarter. I doubt the 130 Specfp92 on the Gecko is for the minimum model, even though a previous post says so. I think 60-80 is more realistic. There is supposed to be a better model for $8000 that has the 130 Specmark rating. Next week we'll know more. Upgrades of the Indy are very expensive, a usable workstation is $10,000-$20,000, and that is still without the great graphics for which SGI is famous. I don't know about upgrades for the Gecko. If somebosy has more features to compare for both machines, please post. I'd especially be interested in features that make the Indy look good. I haven't seen any, yet. Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) Subject: DPT 2021 card Message-ID: <CJH7vA.973@netnews.jhuapl.edu> Sender: usenet@netnews.jhuapl.edu Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 17:42:46 GMT I was curious if anyone has any expierence with this card (DPT 2021/95 ISA) under NS and what they think of its performance. Can I use the floppy controller even though its not officially supported? I espicially want to know of any conflicts between this card and ATI GUP EISA card. For those that didn't know, the ATI and ADAPTEC card would not work together in DELL DE systems. John Stanhope ---------------------------------------------------- Otto "Apes don't read philoshpy" Wanda "Yes they do, they just don't understand it" ----------------------------------------------------
From: coullet@sucre.unice.fr (Pierre Coullet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCI-graphics Date: 11 Jan 1994 18:23:23 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <2guqqr$6ij@taloa.unice.fr> Hi, Does some one knows about the adress of miro ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Re: Best possible PC hardware for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <2gus9k$1oi@amber.hasc.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp. References: <CJ6wDs.FsI@pdh.com> <2grldj$8v@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 18:48:20 GMT In article <2grldj$8v@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >rnielsen@everest.com (Robert D. Nielsen) writes: > >>I would like to know what the net thinks the best machine is (money is no >>object). > >>Is there a Pentium-66 motherboard with PCI and EISA? Dell has one. >>Is there _a_ supported PCI SCSI-2 daughter card? No. >>Is the PCI Diamond Viper daughter card supported? No. The only PCI card currently supported is the Miro Crystal 32s, because they wrote the drivers. The ATI PCI card is supposed to be supported this quarter. What I don't get is that with all the productivity gains using OO technology, why can't NeXT crank out a couple of drivers? > >Forget about it. I'm sure the best machine for NeXTSTEP you can >purchase in 1994 will be a HP Gecko. This is likely true. Can't play DOOM though :-). - darcy -- When my friend Ivo met a pianist at the airport, they shared a cab into the city. You see, I'm dating a pianist right now, so when he told Paul about this, Paul said -- "What's with you and Darcy and the pianists?" Ivo replied -- "I guess I had a little pianist envy!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: dissin' the Indy (wasRe: HP Gecko vs. Indigo Performance?) Message-ID: <1994Jan11.192329.15796@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1994Jan11.135550.8131@talus.com> <2gulb0$sj2@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 19:23:29 GMT In article <2gulb0$sj2@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes: >> >>Upgrades of the Indy are very expensive, a usable workstation >>is $10,000-$20,000, and that is still without the great graphics >>for which SGI is famous. I don't know about upgrades for the >>Gecko. >> From what I've seen, the Indy is basically the prototype for SGI's settop box that they decided to pass off as a workstation. I've said this before, but I played with a friend's Indy with a 19" display, 24 bit graphics, a 1 gig drive, 64MB of memory and a CD-ROM drive (list price $24K) running Indigo Magic and IRIX 5.1. It made my NeXTStation Color Turbo with 32MB and 21" monitor seem very peppy by comparison. The joke of the Indy is that it seems promise a machine that can be a developer's dream for well under 10K. The truth is that when you put together a usable developer system (cause face it, you can't afford the apps, and you want to write your own) you're over $20K list, and the performance still sucks. I've got an Indigo^2 Extreme sitting next to my NeXT, and that's what I would consider the baseline interesting SGI box. I think it was around $40K to 50K, which is out of everybody's league for a personal purchase... I really hope the Geckos go for under $10K complete and run NeXTSTEP. Finally a worthy box... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) Subject: Re: HP Gecko is for real (only a few days away from release) Message-ID: <1994Jan11.190957.16998@ictv.com> Sender: usenet@ictv.com Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200 References: <CJGH3n.9E2@unix.portal.com> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 19:09:57 GMT Bradly William Wright writes > The rumor has been confirmed by Open Systems Today. The HP Gecko > is here! Although, we'll have to wait for 7 days to find out if it > runs NeXTStep now! I just can't believe the features included > for the price. Sounds like a great machine, but I wouldn't expect it to run NeXTSTEP now unless you are on the porting team. Look for NS/PA in shrinkwrap in about 6 months (or so my sources tell me). [MUNCH] > Brad Wright > wwright@premisys.com > wwright@shell.portal.com -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK 660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063
From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Old '030 Cubes booting 1024-byte sectors Date: 11 Jan 1994 19:42:12 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2guvek$lfe@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> Can old (circa 1989) '030 cubes boot disks with 1024-byte sectors? I know they choke on the 2048-byte sectors of a CD-ROM but I hope they work with 1024. A low-level reformat is seeming rather attractive..... :) Thanks in advance. ============================================================================= David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: zxmkx01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Kerger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS31IP and HP MO Date: 11 Jan 94 20:07:14 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at ZDV Uni-Tuebingen Message-ID: <zxmkx01.758318834@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> hi everybody, i'am trying to make a hp mo run under ns31/ip. for dos it seems to be a disk like others (512/sector) but ns has no other idea for it than just to eject it ... can anybody help? thanks in advance andreas -- ------------------------------------------ Andreas Kerger | Engelfriedshalde 22 | 7400 Tuebingen | Germany |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (J. LaPierre) Subject: Re: Problems using interal audio input jack in PAS 16 Message-ID: <1994Jan11.202950.22617@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Keywords: sound ProAudio Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York References: <2gtknj$b4t@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 20:29:50 GMT In <2gtknj$b4t@news.u.washington.edu> jpg1@u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner) writes: > [basically DOS works, NS doesn't, external jack works, internal doesn't > [stuff deleted....] >I assume that CDPlayer.app is meant to play sound out of the PAS >speaker jack, since it has a volume control on the bottom. >I'm sure the cable and everything are fine since everything works >perfecly in DOS. Has anyone else had problems like this? I'm fairly sure that anyone who hasn't played with the PAS Driver will have the problems you mention. This is because by default, the driver initializes the mixer settings of the sound card so that the internal jack is muted. Why they chose to do this is beyond me. So if you have NeXTDeveloper (which also has the code for the PAS driver), you just need to change the attenuation paramater in the resetHardware function (not sure I've got the function name right, but it shouldn't be hard to find). Actually even, by changing these parameters I haven't been able to get the volume as high as DOS can get it. The code does not say what the range of values is for the attenuation of each of the channels, so I just fooled around 'til I got something I could live with. I had thought that higher attenuation meant lower volume, but since the code #defines MUTE as 0x00, I guess it works the other way in this case. If anyone knows what settings can give DOS-like volume, I'd really like to hear them. If anyone would like to know what settings I'm using or, needs a copy of the modified driver please feel free to let me know at this address and I'll send it out. Hope this answers your question (basically it's not your fault). -Jason Jason LaPierre University of Rochester lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SLIP using PNI 1.6 Date: 11 Jan 1994 20:54:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2gv3l8$mo9@news.service.uci.edu> References: <2gtjj0$atg@news.u.washington.edu> In article <2gtjj0$atg@news.u.washington.edu> jpg1@u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner) writes: > feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > > >My question is > >(1) Is SLIP connection generally much slower than a direct modem dial in? > >(2) If the answer to (1) is negative, are there any settings that I > > did not do correctly? > >By the way, I set my serial port speed to be 38.4K. > >I think that in NeXTSTEP's case, the serial driver prevents > the serial port from functioning reliably above 19.2. In any case, > whether it be your UART (shouldn't be a problem for your internal) or > (more likely) NS's driver, occaisonal character dropouts can wreak > major havok under certain conditions. They aren't really a problem > if you're using, say, Kermit to emulate a VT100 or something (i.e. > you don't have any error checking between the software and the modem) > since only 1 character in something like a few thousand is dropped. > However, if your running SLIP or doing a ZMODEM file transfer or something, > your throughput REALLY plummets since it ends up re-transmitting > packets/blocks. > > > --Jeff Gardner > gardner@astro.washington.edu You are absolutely right about the serial driver problem. I went home last night and changed tty speed to be 19.2, immediately the transfer rate gets to about 1k c/s, which is still slower than a direct modem link under dos, but quite acceptable. I don't know why it did not work with 38.4 with an internal modem on my machine since you did not seem to have much problem at that speed. In any event, I would like to thank everybody who replied to may original question and warn others the problem we found. I hope NEXT will come up with a more reliable driver. Until then, it is better to set your tty speed less than or equal(?) to 38.4. Feng Liu
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Date: 11 Jan 1994 21:12:26 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> References: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> Keywords: Megapixel display In article <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes: | | Now that the warranty period on my NeXTstation Turbo has expired, the | Megapixel monitor (2-bit grayscale) seems to be having difficulty. It is | getting dimmer and dimmer. As a rough estimate, I'd say that its peak | intensity is half that of the other NeXTstation in my office. | | Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any way to fix it? I'm | starting to get eyestrain from working on it. | | -- | Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu | | "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." | Friedrich von Schiller It's a known problem. You might check the archives of c.s.n.* for some articles on tweaking the pots inside (qualified TV repairmen only :-). Supposedly you can still buy a new one from campus service centers or Bell Atlantic. -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: johnm@bookstore.ubc.ca (john mccannel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem with CL 540x/542x Driver under nsi3.1 Date: 11 Jan 1994 23:05:11 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <2gvbb7$q4g@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I seem to be having a problem whenever I select the Cirrus Logic driver from configure.app. After i select it and remove the default vga driver, save and reboot the screen comes up completely garbled (the character based stuff looks ok but as soon as the mouse pointer displays the screen looks as though it is somehow not synching properly). My monitor supports 1024x768 NI and my video card is the vl-bus combo card with ide, multi i/o and svga. the bios reports cirrus logic gd540x/542x bios version 1.20 when i boot. Am i missing something? any hints to: johnm@bookstore.ubc.ca Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: SLIP using PNI 1.6 Message-ID: <1994Jan11.233644.26345@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2gsntk$g2u@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 23:36:44 GMT In article <2gsntk$g2u@news.service.uci.edu> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > I I finally got PNI 1.6 kind of working on a Intel 486/33. > However, it is disappointingly slow, much slower than a direct dial-in > modem link. > I have a 14.4k internal modem. > With Kermit or Procomm under DOS, it is very fast. > When I cat a long file, I can see the screeen scrolling continuously > like a directly linked terminal. The reponse to a Contol-C is almost > instant. > With SLIP under DOS, the above process becomes much slower, > I have to wait for the screen to scroll and if I do Control-C, > I have to wait forever before it kills the cat. > > With PNI 1.6 under NeXTSTEP, it seemed even slower, it seems never to > finishe! > > My question is > (1) Is SLIP connection generally much slower than a direct modem dial in? > (2) If the answer to (1) is negative, are there any settings that I > did not do correctly? SLIP appears slow because of packet overhead. It have to send each keypress (for telnet/rlogin) in a separate packet. SLIP works fine for ftp and other network type access; if you want logins to work faster, you should pay Louis for his CSLIP option. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps) Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Message-ID: <1994Jan12.000937.6211@cs.sfu.ca> Keywords: Megapixel display Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada References: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 00:09:37 GMT In article <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes: >In article <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu >(Jim Horne) writes: >| >| Now that the warranty period on my NeXTstation Turbo has expired, the >| Megapixel monitor (2-bit grayscale) seems to be having difficulty. It is >| getting dimmer and dimmer. As a rough estimate, I'd say that its peak >| intensity is half that of the other NeXTstation in my office. >| >| Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any way to fix it? I'm >| starting to get eyestrain from working on it. >| >| -- >| Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu >| >| "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." >| Friedrich von Schiller > >It's a known problem. You might check the archives of c.s.n.* for some >articles on tweaking the pots inside (qualified TV repairmen only :-). >Supposedly you can still buy a new one from campus service centers or >Bell Atlantic. > There is a brightness problem with CRTs within the serial number range of AAA7000001 to 7003200, in fact NeXT even extended the warranty (while they were still in the hardware business) to two years for this range. I don't know if Bell Atlantic is continuing this program. Apparently the problem is the phosphor coating in the CRT and can only be remedied by replacment of the entire monitor. NeXT used to offer replacement internal circuit boards, but not CRTs. Tweaking the internal pots isn't going to work in this case because you'll find that the internal brightness control is already set as high as possible. If the display can be easily read with the graphic "slider" (via Preferences) set to the mid-point then the monitor is probably okay. If a user feels that they MUST try doing this they should observe standard CRT safety precautions as well as using a plastic alignment tool when adjusting these pots. An authorized Service Provider or Bell Atlantic should be able to get you monitor on an exchange basis for a reasonable fee. --Peter
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 19:54:32 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <EhAod8W00Uh_E8KzBI@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> In article <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes: > > Now that the warranty period on my NeXTstation Turbo has expired, the > Megapixel monitor (2-bit grayscale) seems to be having difficulty. It is > getting dimmer and dimmer. As a rough estimate, I'd say that its peak > intensity is half that of the other NeXTstation in my office. > > Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any way to fix it? I'm > starting to get eyestrain from working on it. I have adjusted several monitors with no problems, but make sure you know what you are doing before opening anything. I expressly disclaim responsibility for any ill results that may occur. In order to adjust NeXT's MegaPixel display (called 'the monitor' hereafter), you'll need (a) the NeXTtool (or an Allen wrench), (b) a plastic adjustment tool (preferred) or a thin bladed screwdriver, and possibly (c) a Phillips-head screwdriver. (NB: A similar procedure will work for color monitors, but you should either know what you're doing or you'll probably be better off letting a pro deal with it.) Turn off the computer. Disconnect all cables to the monitor. Look at the back of the monitor. There will be 4 screws there; use the NeXTtool (or Allen wrench) to remove them. Remove the plastic back of the monitor and put it out of your way. Reconnect the cables and turn the computer back on. As the machine powers up, examine the back of the monitor. You'll see a metallic box (usually silver, though some are black) surrounding the monitor's vitals. This protects you against the dangerous voltages inside, and also insulates the monitor from electromagnetic noise. On the back of this box are several holes for performing adjustments. There are two focus controls (labelled 'focus' and 'dynamic focus'), a brightness control (labelled 'brightness'), 'black level' and several others that adjust various things like screen size and position. Depending on the exact placement of the controls on the circuit board of your specific monitor, some of these controls may be difficult (or impossible) to adjust from the back. If this is the case, I will describe what's necessary below. Otherwise, adjust the appropriate controls using either an adjustment tool or a screwdriver. Be warned that a screwdriver probably will cause some interesting video effects when it enters the case. Ignore this the best you can, or find a plastic adjustment tool, which is what you *really* should be using anyway. Using a flashlight will help you see into the hole so that you can align the business end of the tool correctly. Focus and position controls are fairly obvious. Adjust them slowly until you're happy with the results. Don't muck with anything you don't need to; the factory settings are usally pretty decent. To correctly adjust the brightness, follow this procedure: Turn the brightness of the monitor all the way down using the keyboard. Adjust the brightness control on the back of the monitor until a barely noticeable picture forms. Then turn the brightness down a little so this picture disappears completely. Check that you can get adequete brightness by using the keyboard to brighten the screen. If the display isn't bright enough, adjust the brightness control on the rear of the monitor high enough so that the monitor display is adequate. Note that you won't be able to dim the screen completely from the keyboard...sorry. Once you're finished, shut down the computer, take off the cables, reattach the back of the monitor, and reconnect the cables. You're done. If the control you need to adjust proves to be difficult, you may need to enter the metal case. This happened on one monitor's focus control and another's brightness. WARNING: THE VOLTAGES INSIDE THE MONITOR'S CASE ARE VERY DANGEROUS, EVEN WHEN THE MONITOR IS OFF. BE VERY CAREFUL, OR YOU CAN SERIOUSLY INJURE OR EVEN KILL YOURSELF. Do not perform the next instructions unless you are confident that you know what you are doing. You'll have to power off the computer again, and disconnect the cables. Looking at the monitor from the back, notice a section of metallic shielding on the right side of the metal box that extends to the picture tube. This is where the flyback tranformer is connected. It shields a wire that is charged to about 25,000 V. DO NOT TOUCH THIS WIRE, IT CAN SHOCK YOU THROUGH ITS INSULATION. Being very careful of this, remove the metal case by unscrewing the Philip's head screws that hold the case on. Don't touch the screws that hold the picture tube into the front of the monitor's case. Once you've gotten the metal box off, reconnect the cables. Figure out what control you're going to adjust, and make sure that you can do so without touching anything else inside. Again, *watch out* for the wire that connects to the picture tube on the right side. Power up the computer. I recommend that you use only one hand to make the adjustment, and that your other hand be placed in your pocket (or similar equivalent, if you're wearing clothes lacking pockets). This precaution reduces the chances that you'll make a short circuit between one hand, your heart, and the other hand-- a good idea. Perform the necessary adjustment(s), being very careful not to touch anything inside. Then shut down and reassemble the monitor, following the directions given above. Hopefully, these instructions will prove useful. Once again, please be very careful...I don't want your death and/or injury on my conscience (or a lawsuit, for that matter, either :-) Later, Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bugni@cs.washington.edu (Paul F Bugni) Subject: Drivers for Diamond Stelth 24 VLB?? Message-ID: <1994Jan12.011220.2681@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Keywords: VLB, Stelth Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 01:12:20 GMT I've run into an option to pick up said video card and am currious if anyone has found a driver for such, where it is, and what it supports for NSFIP. Thanks. Paul. bugni@cs.washington.edu ascii please.
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SLIP using PNI 1.6 Date: 12 Jan 1994 01:27:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2gvjli$1ni@news.service.uci.edu> References: <1994Jan11.233644.26345@seer.demon.co.uk> > SLIP appears slow because of packet overhead. It have to send each > keypress (for telnet/rlogin) in a separate packet. SLIP works fine for > ftp and other network type access; if you want logins to work faster, you > should pay Louis for his CSLIP option. > > Paul > -- > Paul Lynch > P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk > Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, > Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK I tried CSLIP under PNI, but it did not work. I wonder if it is because it is not included in the 1.6 beta version or I did not buy it, or the server at our site did not have it. I guess the response is also somewhat related to the MTU size in the configuration file. How does MTU affect the transfer rate? Should one set it as big as allowed on the server? or as small as possible to get better login response? Thanks. Feng Liu
From: telaydi@eubie. (Tarek Elaydi [ITG]) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SLIP... Date: 12 Jan 1994 01:48:09 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gvksp$q85@overload.lbl.gov> Keywords: SLIP serial port I have been running SLIP now for six months off my '030 Cube with good results. remote rlogin is slower than logging in through kermit but the benefits of running X remotely(with co-Xist) and getting e-mail make it worth it. CSLIP is highly recommended since the header compression gave me a 2 fold speed up. BUT, I've been running my serial port and 14.4 modem at 9600. I tryed setting the port to >=19200 (modem to 14.4) but all I got was garbage. Someone told me that the `030 Cube serial ports do not support hardware flow control so non-matching rates would overflow buffers. is this true??? If so, how reliable is software flow control for SLIP? Can I upgrade my serial port hardware some how? Tarek Elaydi E-mail: telaydi@george.lbl.gov NeXT-mail: telaydi@oasis.lbl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) Subject: Re: PCI-graphics Message-ID: <1994Jan11.142426.20557@resonex.com> Organization: Resonex Inc., Fremont CA References: <2guqqr$6ij@taloa.unice.fr> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 14:24:26 GMT In article <2guqqr$6ij@taloa.unice.fr> coullet@sucre.unice.fr (Pierre Coullet) writes: >Hi, >Does some one knows about the adress of miro ? The company's name is miro Computer Products 3160 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 200 Santa Clara, CA 95054 (408) 727-1558 -Z.
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP Gecko vs. Indigo Performance? Date: 12 Jan 1994 02:13:10 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gvmbmINNlu5@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> DISCLAIMER: I'm an engineer at H-P, but I am not "in the loop" on workstation stuff. Everything I say is based on open sources. What little I do "know" about this stuff, I can't say (for obvious reasons...) In <2gulb0$sj2@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes: > I doubt the 130 Specfp92 on the Gecko is for the minimum model, > even though a previous post says so. I think 60-80 is more > realistic. There is supposed to be a better model for $8000 > that has the 130 Specmark rating. Next week we'll know more. It's believable, although maybe not probable. The PA-7100LC (aka Hummingbird) is clocked at 80 MHz in its initial version, according to EETimes and HPCwire. This is the low-cost Snakes variant reportedly used in Gecko. The FPU is supposed to be equivalent to that in the 7100. A 9000/735 has a 99 MHz 7100, and is capable of well over 150 SPECfp92. I don't know the exact number, but 150 is _very_ conservative. Remember that 7100-series PA-RISC chips have no internal L1 cache, instead relying on large, fast external L1 caches on separater Instruction and Data busses which operate at full CPU clock. Gecko's performance is therefore likely to be strongly dependent on the external cache design. Bottom line: I doubt you'll see 130 SPECfp92 from an entry-level, $4000 Gecko, but I'd be willing to bet that the number will end up somewhere over 100. PA-RISC implementations are traditionally extremely fast on FP Additionally, the Gecko's integer performance should be _better_ than that of a system with an equivalently clocked 7100, assuming equivalent cache designs. This is because in the 7100LC, both integer pipes may process operational integer instructions simultaneously. The 7100 has 2 integer pipes, but only one may process an operational instruction on any given cycle. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: death@netcom.com (David Burrowes) Subject: Help (please read if have DEC Hard drive) Message-ID: <deathCJHt33.5vI@netcom.com> Summary: Where to call for warranty? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 01:21:02 GMT I bought a DEC 3105 1gig hard disk from Tecor a couple years ago. It has been acting strang elately (it stops and then restarts for no apparent reason sometimes). I discovered that I received no warranty information with the drive last night when digging through my records. So, my pressing question is: do you have a support phone number for DEC hard drives? If so, could you send it to me (pretty please?) My less pressing question is: Did you, when you bought your drive, get some kinda written warranty with it? Thanks for *any* assistance david john burrowes death@netcom.com
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mouse gets crazy every now and then under NSI Date: 12 Jan 1994 03:40:45 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gvrft$hot@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2guhci$oi@cc.tut.fi> Tuominen Juha (t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi) wrote: : I'm having a weird problem with a 66 MHz 486 running NSI. Every now and : then the mouse goes nuts (it's worse than Mac's mouse!). Moving mouse : makes the arrow jump all over the screen and pressing button makes : the arrow go down on the screen about an inch or so. This machine I'm : talking about is at work and I always leave it on over night and : usually this happens in the morning when I first move the mouse to : unblank the screen. : Any ideas what might cause this? I had this same problem using a Mouse Systems White Mouse. It didn't work under NT either (same deal). I returned it and got a MS mouse, which works fine. BTW, this was under NS 3.1 on a ALR Pentium. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mhamrick@dallas.bozell.com(Matt Hamrick) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Notebooks Message-ID: <1994Jan11.233144.21168@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <2gt0r4$8au@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 23:31:44 GMT In article <2gt0r4$8au@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: -> The -> high end notebook has an i486DX2 66MHz processor -> and 9.5 inch active matrix color display. -> [ Stuff Deleted ] -> DISPLAY -> Ergo's Hitachi-manufactured display is extremely -> readable for Windows applications. The screen can -> support an internal resolution of 640 by 480 with 256 -> colors or drive an external monitor at 1,024 by 768 with -> 256 colors. With 1MB of video RAM (most tested had just [ More Stuff Deleted ] Before I go and pay for something like this, can someone out there confirm or deny a technical rumor I've heard. As I understand it, the NeXT/Adobe Color Display Postscript Rendering model only supports 24 and 32 bits, thus requiring a 32 or 24 bit RAMDAC in the PC video subsystem. Since it appears that this display only gives you 256 colors, doesn't this mean that it's got an 8 bit indexed RAMDAC? If so, it would only be able to run DPS in greyscale mode. Anyone out there know anything about this, or am I suffering from a complete distortion of the truth. -- Matthew S. Hamrick | "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't." mhamrick@bozell.com | -Shakespeare, Hamlet Act 2, Scene 2 Temerlin McClain | Dallas, Texas | NeXT Mail Capable
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Original internal HD (68040 Cube) getting noisy -- is this a problem? Date: 12 Jan 1994 06:36:11 GMT Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, U.C.S.B. Message-ID: <2h05or$e3t@hub.ucsb.edu> The internal 350 Mb hard drive on my 68040 cube makes a fair amount of noise. It is a steady whine, and it has gotten gradually louder over the past few months. Today when I turned the machine on, it seemed that the disk began to spin up, slowed down again briefly, and the proceeded to spin up completely. I have never gotten a single disk error message of any sort, but if this could develop into something worse, I would certainly like to get it fixed before anything happens. Have other people had experiences like this that lead to worse problems? Is there any way to check/test the HD? FYI, the drive is a MAXTOR XT-8380S. Thanks for any information! -- Douglas Scott | Senior Development Engineer Tel: (805) 893-8352 | Center for Computer Music Research and Composition Internet (NeXTMail ok): | Music Department <doug@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> | University of California, Santa Barbara
From: dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to restore NSi boot ? Date: 12 Jan 1994 10:34:22 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine Message-ID: <2h0jne$t04@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> I have NSI 3.2 installed on a disk with a small DOS partition. However when I went to update DOS to 6.2, it wiped out the NSI boot that lets you choose DOS or NSI. How can I restore this ? NB: if I make the NSI partition active NSI boots fine, but if I then want DOS, I have to boot from a floppy and use FDISK to make the DOS partition active. Cheers, Dan Ts'o 713-798-3331 Div. Neuroscience FAX: 713-798-3897 Baylor College of Medicine 1 Baylor Plaza S603 dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Houston, TX 77030 tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
From: nuggets@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Hentschke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to restore NSi boot ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 12 Jan 1994 11:51:10 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2h0o7e$31o@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2h0jne$t04@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu wrote: : I have NSI 3.2 installed on a disk with a small DOS partition. However : when I went to update DOS to 6.2, it wiped out the NSI boot that lets you : choose DOS or NSI. How can I restore this ? NB: if I make the NSI partition : active NSI boots fine, but if I then want DOS, I have to boot from a floppy : and use FDISK to make the DOS partition active. *grin* My first step was installing again NSI, but after 2nd failure during updating from DOS 6.0 to 6.2, i took man pages an found out: "disk" can write the boot0-program onto disk without partioning or formatting (options for 'disk' left my brain, sorry). I have 3.1 and hope it works for 3.2 too. Bis denne .... Lars.
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Anybody got original Cube Maxtor XT-8380S with 512 bytes/sector ? Date: 12 Jan 1994 16:53:55 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2h19v3$82b@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Did anybody ever reformat his Maxtor XT-8380S to 512 bytes/sector ? Or else has anybody got a DOS version of the Maxtor XT-8380S ? If yes, could you let me know, I need some info to reformat my drive from 1024 bytes/sector to 512. Thanks for any help, Ernst. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: PCI video cards??? Message-ID: <2h1cit$2tn@amber.hasc.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp. Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:38:37 GMT Hi... I've decided to purchase a Pentium machine from Dell. I can get the following configuration for $7200 Canadian (~5500 US). 66MHz Pentium, 256k cache, PCI/EISA, desktop box, ATI PCI video card, 700M hard disk, 32M RAM, DPT 2021 SCSI controller, keyboard and mouse. I'm going to get the IBM 17p monitor (which was given the best marks for image quality from Byte) for $1100 US. Now, the problem is that NEXTSTEP has almost *no* PCI device drivers. The only PCI device that you can use is the Miro Crystal 32s card. This card costs $899 and is way too much money, I think. So, does anyone know if and when NeXT is coming out with some PCI drivers? It bites to know that there are some pretty killer configs to be had, but you can't buy them because NEXTSTEP won't work with them. Guess I'll have to get NT instead ;-) . - darcy -- When my friend Ivo met a pianist at the airport, they shared a cab into the city. You see, I'm dating a pianist right now, so when he told Paul about this, Paul said -- "What's with you and Darcy and the pianists?" Ivo replied -- "I guess I had a little pianist envy!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (Markus Stoll) Subject: Re: AudioCD and Apple CD150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <1994Jan11.225500.14931@isolde.stgt.sub.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: GbR Stoll & Stoeffler, Stuttgart, Germany References: <1994Jan6.134912.7312@isolde.stgt.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 22:55:00 GMT Because many people asked me for my Apple-CD150-Player, I will place it within 2 day on "ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de". As I told you, it is a VERY basic pre-release, but it plays Audio-CDs. Some guys asked me to mail it immedeately. Sorry, but I have to pay for international mail, so look for it on the common ftp-servers. Markus -- Markus Stoll, markus@isolde.stgt.sub.org (NeXTMail preferred) stoll@vaxph.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: v$imikeb@vnet.austin.ibm.com Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id) Message-ID: <CJIyny.2BwK@austin.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 16:19:09 GMT References: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> Organization: OS/2 Application Developer Technical Support In <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu>, daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) writes: >In article <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu >(Jim Horne) writes: >| >| Now that the warranty period on my NeXTstation Turbo has expired, the >| Megapixel monitor (2-bit grayscale) seems to be having difficulty. It is >| getting dimmer and dimmer. As a rough estimate, I'd say that its peak >| intensity is half that of the other NeXTstation in my office. >| >| Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any way to fix it? I'm >| starting to get eyestrain from working on it. >| > >It's a known problem. You might check the archives of c.s.n.* for some >articles on tweaking the pots inside (qualified TV repairmen only :-). >Supposedly you can still buy a new one from campus service centers or >Bell Atlantic. > Mine started doing something different about 2 weeks ago: The top 1/2 inch or so is "scrunched" to about 1/4 of an inch. This "scrunched" area is slowly moving down the screen, it's about 4 inches from the top and moving down. I expect it will hit bottom sometime in March - who knows what will happen then. I should add that this is one of the first batch of cubes made, the serial number is in the low hundreds. Anybody have this happen or know how to fix it (short of replacement). It's slightly annoying, but not show stopping. Mike Brown
From: quarrie@darth.lbl.gov (David R. Quarrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone tried NEXTSTEP on DECpc XL Pentium? Date: 12 Jan 1994 18:08:12 GMT Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <36604@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Keywords: DECpc XL Has anyone got NEXTSTEP running on a DECpc XL System? If so, I 'd appreciate details of your configuration and any hints/tips etc. Thanks in advance. David --------------------------------------------------------------------- David R. Quarrie Lawrence Berkeley Lab MS 50B-3238 (NeXTmail ok) 1 Cyclotron Road Internet: DRQuarrie@LBL.Gov Berkeley, CA 94720 DECnet : lbl::drquarrie Tel: (510) 486-4868
From: develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Darren Eveland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problem with CL 540x/542x Driver under nsi3.1 Date: 12 Jan 1994 19:27:41 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2h1ivd$n1n@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <2gvbb7$q4g@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> john mccannel (johnm@bookstore.ubc.ca) wrote: : I seem to be having a problem whenever I select the Cirrus Logic driver : from configure.app. After i select it and remove the default vga driver, : save and reboot the screen comes up completely garbled (the character : based stuff looks ok but as soon as the mouse pointer displays the screen : looks as though it is somehow not synching properly). : My monitor supports 1024x768 NI and my video card is the vl-bus combo card : with ide, multi i/o and svga. the bios reports cirrus logic gd540x/542x : bios version 1.20 when i boot. : Am i missing something? : any hints to: johnm@bookstore.ubc.ca : Thanks. After you have started up with your garbled screen, type exit as your login (I think it is exit). It will reset, and should fix your problem. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= __ Darren Eveland, Computer Science major, CCS p.time Consultant |Amiga /// email: develand@uoguelph.ca, develand@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca |3000 /// Amiga3000/25-10meg w/EGS Spectrum & 486DX/50-8meg VL-BUS video/HD|__ /// "If all else fails, check the manual...">>>Standard Disclaimer<<<|\\\/// University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario - It's near Toronto eh?? | \XX/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anybody got original Cube Maxtor XT-8380S with 512 bytes/sector ? Date: 12 Jan 1994 19:55:14 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2h1kj2$5mi@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2h19v3$82b@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Ernst Kloecker <ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes: > Did anybody ever reformat his Maxtor XT-8380S to 512 bytes/sector ? It's possible to convert the orginal NeXT 1024 byte sector Maxtor drives to use 512 bytes/sector. However, it isn't easy -- these were custom configurations done for NeXT. I converted mine by contacting Maxtor's support folks who had me download a program from their BBS and talked me through the procedure of uploading the disk's firmware into the PC, modifying it and downloading it back to the disk drive and reformatting. Not for the squeamish and you have to have an Adaptec SCSI board in the PC -- their software assumes/requires it. Bottom line, contact Maxtor support, - Christopher
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 14:51:10 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0hB5GiS00iV4E6LgZy@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CJIyny.2BwK@austin.ibm.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Jan-94 Re: Fading Megapixel display by v$imikeb@vnet.austin.ibm > Mine started doing something different about 2 weeks ago: The top 1/2 inch > or so is "scrunched" to about 1/4 of an inch. This "scrunched" area is > slowly moving down the screen, it's about 4 inches from the top and moving > down. I expect it will hit bottom sometime in March - who knows what will > happen then. I should add that this is one of the first batch of cubes > made, the serial number is in the low hundreds. > > Anybody have this happen or know how to fix it (short of replacement). > It's slightly annoying, but not show stopping. At first guess, there's a problem with the vertical refresh circuitry. If you are electrically inclined, you might want to check the capacitors in the monitor, but it's probably better to get a professional repair done. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ringger@cs.rochester.edu Subject: Re: Black external 3.5" drive cases??? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 07 Dec 93 06:13:34 GMT." Message-ID: <199401121958.OAA15889@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric Ringger) Cc: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 14:58:41 -0500 In 'comp.sys.next.misc' you wrote: >I am looking for the above, does anyone know of a place that I may find one? Sorry for the delay in my response, but I hope that this info. is helpful. Contact Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions in Santa Cruz, CA. The number there is 1-800-255-3475. I bought a Fujitsu drive with a black case through him. His company special orders the cases, and they're quite sturdy with good connectors and a fan if needed. Tell him I sent you. ;') --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science University of Rochester Phone: (716) 275-0922 Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018 ||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||
From: jonesc@tsunami.INTEL.COM (Cory A Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCI video cards??? Date: 12 Jan 1994 18:25:54 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation Distribution: na Message-ID: <2h1fbi$gd6@ornews.intel.com> References: <2h1cit$2tn@amber.hasc.ca> In article <2h1cit$2tn@amber.hasc.ca> samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > Hi... I've decided to purchase a Pentium machine from Dell. I can > get the following configuration for $7200 Canadian (~5500 US). > ..... > Now, the problem is that NEXTSTEP has almost *no* PCI device > drivers. The only PCI device that you can use is the Miro > Crystal 32s card. > .... > - darcy Actually, 3.2 does support the #9GXE PCI video card (S3-928 chipset). I just finished playing around with one on a Pentium/PCI system. As you can see from Configure, it supports the following video resolutions: 800X600 (8bit 16bit) 1024X768 (8bit, 16bit) 1152X819 (8bit) 1280X1024 (8bit) It is faster than the ATI GUP card -- NXBench results (NXFactor): 1.048 for the 1024X768 16bit color mode. I can't remember what the specific "move window" score was... but it was about twice as fast as the ATI -- maybe 0.5? manufacturer information on the back of the card: Number Nine Computer Corporation (617) 674-0009 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cory A. Jones jonesc@tsunami.intel.com (NeXT Mail accepted) Intel Corporation 503.696.5829 - work -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question about a potential printer Date: 12 Jan 1994 21:14:15 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2h1p77$jor@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> I am looking for a PostScript printer for my: NeXTCube '40 Here is what I have found. PCPI printer (Canon engine) LaserImage 4040 300 dpi 4 pages per minute The guy I spoke with said this thing is made in San Diego (for whatever that's worth) I don't want to buy a NeXT printer because I don't want to end up with an unsupported printer that only works with my NeXT. Any suggestions? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Not NeXTMail) | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mdm@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Mike D Marchionna) Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Message-ID: <1994Jan12.225030.27265@wdl.loral.com> Keywords: Megapixel display Sender: news@wdl.loral.com Organization: Loral Western Development Labs References: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> <1994Jan12.000937.6211@cs.sfu.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 22:50:30 GMT peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps) writes: >An authorized Service Provider or Bell Atlantic should be able to get you >monitor on an exchange basis for a reasonable fee. Can someone post some phone numbers to contact these services. My MegaPixel has a problem where the brighter I make it the more out of focus it gets. So I'm stuck with either nice and bright, but badly blury; or really dim and nicely focused. And I've checked my monitor and I can't get at the focus POT through the focus hole. 8^( --MDM -- _________________________________________________________________________ ( _______________________________ Brain, and brain! What is brain! ) \________________________________) --Star Trek (Spock's Brain) / El_Rayo_X_______________________________________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: baker@keeper.journalism.indiana.edu (Don Baker) Subject: Anyone know about 3.5" floptical" drives for the NeXT (black)? Message-ID: <CJJLEv.984@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 00:30:30 GMT Has anyone out there hooked up a "floptical" drive to a NeXT (black) computer? -- Don Baker Technical Services Coordinator IU School of Journalism Tel: (812) 855-4918 baker@journalism.indiana.edu
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: That 1400x1024 video card? Date: 13 Jan 1994 00:42:25 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2h25dh$466@digdug.pencom.com> References: <1994Jan8.022454.1485@news.media.mit.edu> Michael B. Johnson writes: > Any clue what monitors this works on? Your basic high rez workstation > monitor or what? > The ViewSonic 17 works with "ALL" the resolutions including the 1408x1024 color at 72Hz. I've heard that some people had a problem when using the standard VGA driver that comes with NEXTSTEP since this driver programs a standard VGA mode of 640x480 2-bit grayscale but for some reason the miro board assigned a high refresh rate to that mode. The result is that some displays have a problem synchronizing to this mode 640x480 2-bit grayscale. The ironic part is that they can do all the graphics modes the driver does except the 640x480 2-bit grayscale. Maybe a special VGA driver with the miro board for 640x480 would solve the problem. Some NEC displays for example show like two screens because they cannot properly sync at that mode. The ViewSonic 17 has no problems and I assume that the same would apply for their 20" and 21" displays (i.e. ViewSonic 20 and ViewSonic 21). Ricardo J. Parada Pencom Software Austin, Texas
From: mfausett@bbn.com (Mark Fausett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anybody got original Cube Maxtor XT-8380S with 512 bytes/sector ? Date: 13 Jan 94 01:41:34 GMT Message-ID: <mfausett.758425294@kirin> References: <2h19v3$82b@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <2h1kj2$5mi@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU writes: >Ernst Kloecker <ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes: >> Did anybody ever reformat his Maxtor XT-8380S to 512 bytes/sector ? >It's possible to convert the orginal NeXT 1024 byte sector Maxtor drives to use >512 bytes/sector. However, it isn't easy -- these were custom configurations >done for NeXT. I converted mine by contacting Maxtor's support folks who had >me download a program from their BBS and talked me through the procedure of >uploading the disk's firmware into the PC, modifying it and downloading it back >to the disk drive and reformatting. Not for the squeamish and you have to have >an Adaptec SCSI board in the PC -- their software assumes/requires it. One MIGHT be aboe to do the trick with FWB's disk utilities on a Mac. Quite some amazing stuff; understands and can change lots of settings, including sector size on a LOT of disks. I can't verify that the Maxtor is one of them. The package is ~$100 off the shelf. mf
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Toshiba 4400C Mouse/Keyboard dead in 3.2 Date: 12 Jan 1994 10:29:25 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2h0ftl$9e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2glktp$l5u@umd5.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) writes: > OK, I am at my wit's end. I have a Toshiba 4400C which was running >3.1 just fine. I decided to upgrade to 3.2, and, as others upgrading this >laptop to 3.2 have found, the keyboard croaked. Furthermore, my PS/2 mouse >won't work either, unless I plug it into the serial port and use it as a >serial mouse. > I edited the kernel according to the instructions I found in this >newsgroup, but there is no change in behavior. > I can't find anything about this in NeXTanswers. Seeing how this is >a bit of a "show-stopper", and that I believe there are other models affected, >I don't understand this. Has anyone contacted NeXT about this? Or has >anyone found an effective patch? NeXTanswers document #1480 says something about PSKeyboard/PS2Mouse interferences and gives a workaround to avoid my posted kernel patch. I cannot say if it may cure your problem, but you should read it anyway. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Recording directly from a cdplayer Message-ID: <CJHwtx.2Bs@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1994Jan11.153225.23095@info.ucl.ac.be> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 02:41:57 GMT In article <1994Jan11.153225.23095@info.ucl.ac.be> smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters) writes: Hi, I'm desperately trying to record directly from a CDplayer... This cabling should normally be efficient to record a song from a classical CDplayer... But it failed. The problem seems to be with Record.app... Any help would be very appreciated . --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Actually the problem is with what you are trying to do w/out an interface. The digital output of a CD player is not the same as the DSP input. This creates the problem. You need a converter to take the output of a CD player (typically IEC-958 which used to be called S/PDIF) and turn it into the raw data with clock format of the DSP port. There are a few on the market and I don't have all the names handy. Kent -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!4:6UE<RU2;VUA;CM<9C%< M9G-W:7-S($AE;'9E=&EC83M]"EQM87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1< M='@U-C!<='@Q,3(P7'1X,38X,%QT>#(R-#!<='@R.#`P7'1X,S,V,%QT>#,Y M,C!<='@T-#@P7'1X-3`T,%QT>#4V,#!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA< M9F,P7&-F,"!<"EP*26X@87)T:6-L92`\,3DY-$IA;C$Q+C$U,S(R-2XR,S`Y M-4!I;F9O+G5C;"YA8RYB93X@<VUE97-T97)`86YT87)E<R`H17)I8R!3;65E M<W1E<G,I('=R:71E<SI<"@I<<&%R9%QT>#4R,%QT>#$P-C!<='@Q-C`P7'1X M,C$R,%QT>#(V-C!<='@S,C`P7'1X,S<R,%QT>#0R-C!<='@T.#`P7'1X-3,R M,%QF,5QF<S(T7&9C,%QC9C`@2&DL7`I<"DDG;2!D97-P97)A=&5L>2!T<GEI M;F<@=&\@<F5C;W)D(&1I<F5C=&QY(&9R;VT@82!#1'!L87EE<BXN+EP*7`I4 M:&ES(&-A8FQI;F<@<VAO=6QD(&YO<FUA;&QY(&)E(&5F9FEC:65N="!T;R!R M96-O<F0@82!S;VYG(&9R;VT@82!C;&%S<VEC86Q<"D-$<&QA>65R+BXN($)U M="!I="!F86EL960N(%1H92!P<F]B;&5M('-E96US('1O(&)E('=I=&@@4F5C M;W)D+F%P<"XN+EP*06YY(&AE;'`@=V]U;&0@8F4@=F5R>2!A<'!R96-I871E M9"`N7`H*7'!A<F1<='@U-C!<='@Q,3(P7'1X,38X,%QT>#(R-#!<='@R.#`P M7'1X,S,V,%QT>#,Y,C!<='@T-#@P7'1X-3`T,%QT>#4V,#!<9F,P7&-F,"`M M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM7`I<"D%C='5A M;&QY('1H92!P<F]B;&5M(&ES('=I=&@@=VAA="!Y;W4@87)E('1R>6EN9R!T M;R!D;R!W+V]U="!A;B!I;G1E<F9A8V4N7`I4:&4@9&EG:71A;"!O=71P=70@ M;V8@82!#1"!P;&%Y97(@:7,@;F]T('1H92!S86UE(&%S('1H92!$4U`@:6YP M=70N7`I4:&ES(&-R96%T97,@=&AE('!R;V)L96TN7`I<"EEO=2!N965D(&$@ M8V]N=F5R=&5R('1O('1A:V4@=&AE(&]U='!U="!O9B!A($-$('!L87EE<B`H M='EP:6-A;&QY($E%0RTY-3@@=VAI8V@@=7-E9"!T;UP*8F4@8V%L;&5D(%,O M4$1)1BD@86YD('1U<FX@:70@:6YT;R!T:&4@<F%W(&1A=&$@=VET:"!C;&]C M:R!F;W)M870@;V8@=&AE($134"!P;W)T+EP*7`I4:&5R92!A<F4@82!F97<@ M;VX@=&AE(&UA<FME="!A;F0@22!D;VXG="!H879E(&%L;"!T:&4@;F%M97,@ 1:&%N9'DN7`I<"DME;G0*?0H@ ` -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Message-ID: <1994Jan12.071409.2647@gleap.sccsi.com> Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com Organization: GiantLeap Software References: <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 07:14:09 GMT Walter C. Daugherity writes >In article <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu >(Jim Horne) writes: >| >| Now that the warranty period on my NeXTstation Turbo has expired, the >| Megapixel monitor (2-bit grayscale) seems to be having difficulty. It is >| getting dimmer and dimmer. As a rough estimate, I'd say that its peak >| intensity is half that of the other NeXTstation in my office. >| >| Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any way to fix it? I'm >| starting to get eyestrain from working on it. >| >| -- >| Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu >| >| "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." >| Friedrich von Schiller > >It's a known problem. You might check the archives of c.s.n.* for some >articles on tweaking the pots inside (qualified TV repairmen only :-). >Supposedly you can still buy a new one from campus service centers or >Bell Atlantic. > The fix that's been around for a while only allows for a very limited increase in brightness. Some monitors get seriously dim. I've never seen a solution posted for this condition. -- Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com GiantLeap Software (713) 292-5853 or 363-9001 (Hou) (713) 363-9763 (fax)
From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Date: 13 Jan 1994 03:43:20 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401131039.AA19417@di.uminho.pt> > Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any way to fix it? I'm > starting to get eyestrain from working on it. I had the same problem. I opened it, and adjust some of the screws with a screwdriver. Be carefull! I adjusted it switched on. Good luck, Jorge
From: pranav@char.vnet.net (Pranav Patel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting a HP DeskWriter to a 040 cube? Date: 13 Jan 1994 05:36:34 -0500 Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Message-ID: <2h387i$grd@char.vnet.net> Does anyone have any experience connecting an HP Deskwriter 550C to a NeXTCube(040).? thanks. -pranav patel- pranav@pujancorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: Re: Scanners for NS/I?? Message-ID: <CJJ1EE.8D5@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. References: <nemiroal.10.0008D34A@bus.orst.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:18:14 GMT In article <nemiroal.10.0008D34A@bus.orst.edu> nemiroal@bus.orst.edu writes: > Hello, > > I am just wondering if anyone knows of any scanners that are supported for > NS/Intel. I am looking for a high resolution color flatbed type in > particular. > > thanks. > -Alex HSD supports and sells a complete line of 24-bit, high-resolution color scanners from Umax. Complete information and retail prices are posted below. Educational prices are available. HSD Products for NEXTSTEP Product Name: PowerScan Professional Scanning Bundle List Price: $495.00 Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: PowerScan Professional is a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. PowerScan also supports Spectrum Enhancement, HSD's proprietary scan enhancement technology which allows you to finely tune the scanners dynamic range before scanning an image. The results are rich, vibrant images that come alive with color and contain the subtle details and nuances other scanners would miss. PowerScan 2.0 works with all HSD and Umax scanners and includes support for an optional automatic document feeder and transparency adapter. Support for additional scanners will be available soon. PowerFax is a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine--with just a single click of your mouse! Simply put a document in your scanner, select PowerFax from the Services menu, then enter a fax number in the fax panel. Your document is automatically scanned and faxed to the destination you chose. PowerCopy is a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine with just a single click of your mouse! Just put a document in your scanner, select PowerCopy from the Services menu, then enter the number of copies to print in the print panel. Your document is automatically scanned and the number of copies you specify are sent to your printer. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. Product Name: UC 630 Color Scanner List Price: $1495 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: The UC 630 color scanner is built to provide users a convenient and cost-efficient tool to capture high resolution color, grayscale and line-art images into their computer. Bundled with HSD's PowerScan Professional software for NEXTSTEP, the UC 630 is a fully integrated professional scanning solution. The UC 630 has a brilliant eye for color, recognizing up to 16.8 million of them at 24-bits per pixel. Using an advanced CCD image capturing device, the UC 630 scans a color image in three passes to capture images that burst with vividness and vitality. The UC 630 supports resolution of up to 600 dpi for color and grayscale images and up to 2400 dpi for line art. It supports scanning of documents up to U.S. Legal size. Speed is another virtue of the UC 630. Average scanning time for a full size color image is just over two minutes, one of the fastest in the industry. The UC 630 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 630 has a one-year warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy. The UC 630 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Scanning Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. Options Include: Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495. Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X- ray film, and transparencies: $795. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. Product Name: UC 840 Color Scanner List Price: $1695 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: The UC 840 color scanner captures16.8 million colors at resolutions up to 800 dpi for grayscale or color images and up to 2400 dpi for line art. It supports scanning of documents up to U.S. Legal size. The UC 840 merges award-winning technology with state-of-the art craftsmanship, presenting crisp, clear images. Bundled with HSD's PowerScan Professional software for NEXTSTEP, the UC 840 is a powerful and versatile professional scanning solution. And with an average scanning time for a full-size color image at just under two minutes, it is one of the fastest desktop color scanners available. The UC 840 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 840 has a one-year warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy. The UC 840 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Scanning Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. Options Include: Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495. Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X- ray film, and transparencies: $795. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. Product Name: UC 1260 Color Scanner List Price: $2495 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP Product description: The UC 1260 color scanner captures over 16 million colors at resolutions up to 2400 dpi. And with a hardware resolution of 1200 x 600 dpi it is among the highest resolution desktop scanners available. The price/performance ratio of the UC 1260 makes it unbeatable in it's class and the perfect tool for DTP users, pre-press professionals and graphics designers. The UC 1260 utilizes proprietary Ultra View technology and built-in gamma correction so that scanned colors will always match the originals with unbeatable quality. The UC 1260 also scans grayscale and line-art images with superb results. The UC 1260 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 1260 has a one-year warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy. The UC 1260 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP. PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application. Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion, and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats. Options Include: Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495. Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X- ray film, and transparencies: $795. -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc. Ph. (408) 774-1400 Fax (408) 774-1402 -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Subject: Correction: HP Gecko is $3,995 for 60 MHz SPI 58 SPF 79 Message-ID: <CJHHz9.4rA@unix.portal.com> Summary: Correction to original post Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 21:21:06 GMT The revised perfomance specs for the HP-7100LC $3,995 version Clock 60 MHz SPECint 92: 58 SPECfp 92: 79 Everything else is still valid. I've got read the Open Systems Today more carefully. Sorry, for the error! Here is how the CPU's stack up according to O.S.T. CPU Clock SPECint 92 SPECfp 92 HP PA-7100LC 60 MHZ 58 79 HP PA-7100LC 80 MHZ 84 130 DEC 21066 166 MHZ 70 105 Intel Pentium 66 MHZ 67 62 Mips 4600 100 MHZ 65 60 IBM Power PC 66 MHZ 62 72 Sun MicroSparc 75 MHZ 54 44 There may be errors in this stuff, so don't take this as exact. The Open Systems Today doesn't seem to edit their articles very well. Brad Wright wwright@premisys.com wwright@shell.portal.c
From: ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian Bainbridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Formatting SEAGATE ST11200N Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 08:07:06 EST Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Distribution: world Message-ID: <Jae4Fc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: ian@mindvox I've recently added a Seagate 1.2gb disk to a machine running NeXTSTEP, in this case a JAWS/dgx, which is an EISA machine, 32mb RAM, contains 2 other local hard disks (both IDE) and CD-ROM plus QICtape, all connected using an Adaptec 1542b controller. Upon booting everything gets found like so: Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: Resetting SCSI Bus... Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: Registering: sc0 Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd0: SEAGATE ST11200N 9300 Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: Registering: sd0 at Target 4 LUN 0 at sc0 Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: Registering: sd0a Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd0: Device Capacity: 1005 MB Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd0: Disk Label: Disk6 Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd1: SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 2.6a Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 5 LUN 0 at sc0 Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: Registering: sd1a Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 2048 bytes Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 288 MB Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd1: Disk Label: ThirdParty The seagate is a 1200mb drive that formats down to 1005mb, and gets recognized this way upon booting up: Jan 13 07:57:34 dekfour mach: sd0: Device Capacity: 1005 MB HOWEVER, both df, and the desktop only find 114mb and 111mb respectively, available on the disk: /dev/sd0a 120495 2 114468 0% /Disk6 My familiarity with msdos in general is very low, from what I understand a disk needs to go through three phases. A low level format which is often done at the factory and seems to already exist, but perhaps is not properly recognized by NeXTSTEP, a partition program such as fdisk, then a high level format running makefs or newfs. How would I go about doing a low level format on this disk, can I do it under nextstep, or do I need to use something with msdos to access the adaptec, and how would I continue from there to make this a useable disk that I can add to fstab upon boot. It can read/write data with no problem and everything is already recognized, I just seem to have lost 1gb somewhere in the transition :-( ian ################# @ #Ian Bainbridge # mindvox. # ############################################### phantom. # I am not responsible for my opinons, I don't know or care! # com ###############################################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) Subject: Intel based NeXT; What to buy? Message-ID: <1994Jan13.125341.15730@mail.vitech.fi> Organization: Vaasa Institute of Technology Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 12:53:41 GMT I'm planning to build an Intel based NeXT enviroment, but I don't quite know what kind of hardware is needed and what is best. Give me some recommendations, so that I can build an NeXT system what is capable to do following things: 1280*1024 resolution What kind of display hardware is needed and With 16 or 24 bit colors What is fast solution (not the fastest) to this one? CPU An 486, but which one. Is the NeXT Step usable on 486DX2 with 50MHz??? RAM How much? Is 24MB enough for NeXT Step? (how much it will swap to harddrive with this amount of RAM?) Local bus or not? That's the question. Hardrive How big? Tell me also other things which I might be interested in, when I start building this NeXT system. Thanx in advance. -Jani Miettinen t93074@mail.vitech.fi
From: dario@voluptas (Dario Ringach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Could my NSI 3.2 have destroyed my hard disk? Date: 13 Jan 1994 14:29:17 GMT Organization: New York University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2h3lrt$okq@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Keywords: NS 3.2, Seagate ST3600N Hello- I successfully installed NS 3.2 on a Gateway DX2/66V with an Adaptec 1542B into a Seagate ST3600N SCSI 500Mbyte hard disk. I left the machine on overnight and the day after the screen saver was on. I moved the mouse and the login panel appeared. After I logged in the Workspace and a few other applications would not run (I got something like "Invalid architecture in an Alert Panel"). Other applications seemed to run fine, I decided to reboot the machine and during the process I got: sd0: Media Error; FATAL target:0 LUN 0 op: Write block 27506 After a few attempts I tried to reinstall NS 3.2 from scratch and obtained the same message when I try to format the entire disk for use with nextstep. I then tried to load DOS 6.0 again into my computer. Sometimes the installation process went fine, but when I tried to reboot from the hard disk I got: NEXTSTEP boot v1.28 and the process hangs there. I tried to install DOS 6.0 a few more times with the same results, or the DOS format would stop after giving me a few messages reading something like: Trying to recover allocation unit 5235 Does anyone know what my problem is? Could NS 3.2 have destroyed my hard disk by leaving the machine on overnight? How??? Thank you very much in advance for any help. -- Dario
From: emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: hard disk for next cube Date: 13 Jan 1994 15:57:33 GMT Organization: UF Department of Statistics Distribution: world Message-ID: <2h3r1dINNmou@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> We have a next cube machine, having maxtor 8360s (345 MB) harddisk. This hard disk is going bad and we want to get a new one installed. The price for the same hard disk is too high. It is an SCSI device. The university people suggested that we can go for #7345s SCSI hard drive (345 MB). This is much cheaper. Can we just go ahead and buy the #7345s (SCSI) hard drive? Are the physical dimensions same as the maxtor drive? (to be installed inside the next cube). What procedures are to be followed to replace the hard drive? Since we don't have the full set of manuals, any information you can give will be of great help. EGBERT EMAIL emaben@stat.ufl.edu Phone (904)-392-8446 (extn 115)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: richard@amber.demon.co.uk (Richard Frith) Subject: What Pentium system to buy for 3.1? Organization: Brainstorm Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 18:09:58 +0000 Message-ID: <758484598snz@amber.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk I have a copy of 3.1 for Intel and need good hardware to run it on. Does anyone know of a good, fast system which will work with 3.1? I am looking for 1280*1024 colour display (at a good refresh rate) and fast disk I/O. -- Richard Frith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: troyw@csn.org (Troy Weingart) Subject: Re: PCI video cards??? Message-ID: <CJKu42.83y@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. References: <2h1cit$2tn@amber.hasc.ca> <2h1fbi$gd6@ornews.intel.com> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 16:36:01 GMT : Actually, 3.2 does support the #9GXE PCI video card (S3-928 chipset). I : just finished playing around with one on a Pentium/PCI system. As you can : see from Configure, it supports the following video resolutions: : 800X600 (8bit 16bit) : 1024X768 (8bit, 16bit) : 1152X819 (8bit) : 1280X1024 (8bit) : It is faster than the ATI GUP card -- NXBench results (NXFactor): 1.048 : for the 1024X768 16bit color mode. I can't remember what the specific : "move window" score was... but it was about twice as fast as the ATI -- : maybe 0.5? What are the performance marks for the Miro 32s card? Also any predictions on how the Diamond Viper PCI card will perform under NeXTstep? Are the curent PCI card offerings 64 bit? How does the current crop of PCI cards map to the latest and greatest of PCI specifications. (I'm not sure what that spec is?) Thanks -- * Troy Weingart Internet: troyw@csn.org * * 6825 Ashley Drive AT&Tnet: 719.574.9844 * * Colo Sprgs, CO 80922 *
From: psuver@u.washington.edu (Phil Suver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP Scanjet IIc for Intel using Scantastic software Date: 13 Jan 1994 21:54:54 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2h4fve$cma@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: HP Scanjet IIc for Intel using Scantastic software Keywords: HP Scanjet IIc for Intel using Scantastic software We have been trying for several months to get a HP Scanjet IIc color scanner to interface with our NS Intel computers but have had no luck. We are using the DPT 2012 SCSI adapter in a Compaq Deskpro M 486 EISA machine. We originally thought the problem was the Scantastic software (release 1.5x) but have recently upgraded to release 2.0 of the software and are still not able to use the scanner. If anyone has had a similar problem or is working with similar equipment, please send me your specs. Thanks.
From: dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Connecting to Net via AUI port on Intel EtherExpress Date: 13 Jan 1994 23:46:00 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine Message-ID: <2h4mfo$n26@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <2gumpiINN8us@network.ucsd.edu> In <2gumpiINN8us@network.ucsd.edu>, jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) writes: >I'm trying to connect to the local thick ethernet via the AUI port on an >Intel EtherExpress and a transceiver. The PC is running NS3.2 and is >configured stand alone. I can ping localhost and my own internet number, >but with everything else I get a connection timed out error. Any ideas? >Is it not possible to use the AUI port on the Intel EtherExpress? I don't know, but I had an analogous annoying experience. I had been trying to use a 3C509 card on NSi 3.2 via twisted pair, but it just didn't seem to work. Then I read the fine print on a NeXTanswers doc, saying that for the 3C509, only coax was supported. WHY ?!? That is so stupid. Anyways, I reconfigured the 3C509 for the external transceiver, slapped on an otherwise totally unnecessary and redundant AUI to TP transceiver, and now it works. The point is that NeXT for some unknown reason isn't supporting necessarily all types of Ethernet ports (AUI, coax, TP) even when there is a driver for a particular card. WHY ? it is beyond me... Cheers, Dan Ts'o 713-798-3331 Div. Neuroscience FAX: 713-798-3897 Baylor College of Medicine 1 Baylor Plaza S603 dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Houston, TX 77030 tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (randal rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for Good or Bad experiences with 128MO's Date: 14 Jan 1994 00:03:51 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <2h4nh7$vb7@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: 128 MO (experience) Hello, Since I have been posting my PMO-650's for sale I have recieved many messages asking for help with 128MO's. After about 6 months of pretty bad news I have a first report of sucess with a 128 on 'white' hardware. I was wondering if people could send me messages relating good or bad experineces with any and all MO drives, especially the 128's. If the trend I've seen is still present (actually regardless) I will post a summary. I personally have had the PMO-650's running for some time (but it took me hell and high water to get them formatted and configured properly to run, no thanks to Pinnacle Micro Devices and NEXT INC.). Include the Drive type, Brand name, date purchased, seller, hardware your running on, and the price you paid, and finally your experiences with the hardware and the company (in terms of users support, and returns, or the like) Thanks, Randy Rencsok .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps) Subject: Re: Fading Megapixel display Message-ID: <1994Jan13.231922.9436@cs.sfu.ca> Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada References: <2gv4nq$2hh@news.tamu.edu> <1994Jan12.071409.2647@gleap.sccsi.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 23:19:22 GMT In article <1994Jan12.071409.2647> clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com writes: >The fix that's been around for a while only allows for a very limited increase >in brightness. Some monitors get seriously dim. I've never seen a solution >posted for this condition. Neither have I, recently I contacted a local CRT rebuilder about this problem, they were unable to source a replacement CRT from Toshiba. For $250 (Can) we can have them replace the gun but according to Bell Atlantic the fading problem is caused by the quality of the phosphor coating. Under NeXT's extended warranty program (for the MegaPixel display) I was able to replace 20 of these monitors, but sadly the warranty is over and we now have quite a few more that need replacement. I've tried swapping in another "L" board (the monitor electronics) to see if this was the culprit but it never worked, actually I've never had a monitor fail due to internal circuitry. Does anyone out there have a source for the tubes? Or has anyone out there had the electron gun replaced on a fading MegaPixel display? --Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jzp0539@ritvax.isc.rit.edu Subject: SoundBlaster SCSI 2 + Apple 300 = NS Installable ? Message-ID: <1994Jan14.001017.10576@ultb.isc.rit.edu> Sender: news@ultb.isc.rit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 00:10:17 GMT Would NextStep work with a 486-33 with SoundBlaster SCSI 2 card and a Apple 300 SCSI CD-ROM ? As of currently I have a 486-33 with 16Mb RAM looking for a better a better OS. I would love to try out NextStep 3.2 if possible. Even if it means running it in 2bit Greyscale. My current display card is Media Vision's Thunder & Lightning, ISA version :(. I can try to run it on a EISA machine, if somone can tell me where to find the Darn Case and Power Supplies for the Epson EISA mainboard. Epson wanted 345 for the case and 265 for the PS and I said noway. So if anyone on the net know a second hand source for the case + PS, please E-mail me with any info. Why can't Epson stick with STANDARD size mainboard that use STANDARD power supplies ?????
From: hacker@access2.digex.net (Dark Hacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Looking for a PC and Mac compatible priner at the same time Date: 13 Jan 1994 22:26:38 -0500 Organization: Fortress Of Computation Message-ID: <2h53de$dpn@access2.digex.net> Well there it is. I need a printer for my Mac and IBM PC. I *do* have a NeXT with a NeXT printer but the damned thing is an island unto itself. Unless someone can recommend a resonably inexpensive way to make pull-down print menus on the PC and Mac drive the NeXT laser over, say an ethernet, then I'm gonna have to buy a whole new printer :-(. Please don't suggest that I somehow dump the screen to a Postscript file unless this is a utility built into DOS/Windows and accessible from ANY DOS program. So that leaves me with the idea of buying a whole new printer. Damn. I don't want to pay more than $500 or so. Any printers that can be driven from a Mac or PC at the same time (connectors on the back compatible with both mac and PC) or maybe over an ethernet... for cheap? This is a crummy situation to be in. Steve Jobs really left us NeXT- lovers in the lurch on this one. - Hacker -- Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us "Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"
From: andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I use NeXT monitor for Mac? Date: 13 Jan 1994 22:44:51 -0800 Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Message-ID: <2h5f13$k6g@nic.cerf.net> Does anyone know if I can use my NeXT 17" color monitor (Sony) as an external monitor for my portable Mac (PB165c)? The FAQ says NeXT hardware accepts third-party monitor, but what about using the NeXT monitor for some other computer system (only temporarily).
From: bjohnson@verity.com (Brett Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Bus Logic 445S VL-Bus SCSI driver? Date: 13 Jan 1994 21:45:44 GMT Organization: Verity Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2h4fe8$sik@hawaii.verity.com> Has anyone seen the promised BusLogic 445S driver? The last NS 3.2 Hardware Compatability guide lists it as "Q4 93" but it is not on the CD-ROM nor is it at ftp.next.com under pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/3.2_Drivers. In fact there are no 3.2 Drivers in that directory.
From: kcd@mintaka.commodore.com (Ken Dyke - Amiga Gfx Kcd FMV) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/FIP 3.2 Installation Summary: Useful information for new 3.2 installed on PC hardware Keywords: NeXTSTEP Intel Adaptec Install Message-ID: <1994Jan12.034654.26334@cbmnews.commodore.com> Date: 12 Jan 94 03:46:54 GMT Sender: news@cbmnews.commodore.com Organization: Commodore Business Machines Well, while waiting for the rest of the Developer package to install I thought I'd relay some things that I ran into while installing NS/FIP 3.2 on my PC. First, the config: CPU: 486DX/2-66 Motherboard Chipset: SIS Video Adaptor: Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB SCSI Controller: Adaptec 1542CF CD-ROM Drive: Toshiba 3301 My first attempt at installing things ended with the dreaded "thread: Wait for Interrupt returned XXX" problem that has been reported on here a couple of times. Guessing that it might be some kind of SCSI problem, I started playing with the configuration of my Adaptec controller, and learned a few things. First, configuring the controller to disable the BIOS allowed the installation procedure to get as far as asking me which drive I wanted to install NeXTSTEP on. At that point it puked with fdisk complaining that the BIOS information was bogus and the kernel shut down. So, I figured that NS needs to have the BIOS information filled in correctly. Now, knowing that having the BIOS enabled was someone causing the interrupt problem, I decided in a last ditch effort to reset the Adaptec controller's settings to the defaults. This time, the install procedure worked okay.....almost. The drive I'm using is a Maxtor P1-17S (1.4Gb) drive. This time the install procedure didn't puke when it tried to get the BIOS information for my drive, but it did only recognize the first 1Gb of it. Bummer, 400Mb down the tubes. On a hunch, I rebooted (again) and enabled the "Extended BIOS translation...." (or whatever it was called) option in the Adaptec's configuration utility and started the install procedure again and, you guessed it, the dreaded interrupt problem came back. So, it would appear that enabling the BIOS translation somehow confuses the kernel. So, I decided that for now, 1Gb was enough space for NS and finally got the install going smoothly. The only other problem I ran into was that the installer (the one with all the checkboxes for the different packages) kept dying after installing the Essentials and English language. So, I've been using the Installer App to install everything else by hand, which also gave me a chance to play with NS for the first time while everything was installing, instead of having to do nothing for N hours. ;) Anyway, I hope the information regarding the Adaptec SCSI problem is useful to those of you trying to install 3.2 and having the interrupt problem. -Ken -- ------ Kenneth Dyke - Commodore Technology Internet: kcd@commodore.com Amiga Graphics & Full Motion Video BIX: kcd All opinions are my own. "Just One Fix..." - Ministry
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help (please read if have DEC Hard drive) Date: 13 Jan 1994 22:12:23 -0800 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2h5d47$8kt@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <deathCJHt33.5vI@netcom.com> DEC put a five year warranty on the DSP drives when I bought mine. Maybe it has something to do with the serial number when you call them. maurices
From: colo@tanuki.twics.co.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diagnose this NS+Adaptec problem? Date: 14 Jan 1994 08:04:08 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <009788BA.0F390A00.1177@tanuki.twics.co.jp> Can anyone tell me what they think might be wrong: I have an Adapatc 1542CF. It works fine with my Seagate SCSI 540Mb and my NEC 3xi CDROM.... under Windows. Problems with Nextstep. Symptoms follow. *** Note, please, reply or cc by e-mail, *** *** to: COLO@TWICS.CO.JP ****************** *** my news feed is crippled often. ******* *** I'll summarize if there's interest. **** 1) Try to install NS3.1, and it doesn't see the CDROM drive (don't know if it sees the HDD). So with nothing to boot from, it asks for a boot device, and typing sd1, I get an endless loop of a message that ends "waiting for RDP to connection, press 'c' to continue" or something. OK. The system is an Opti/ISA/AMI Bios no-name, which, given the chance, will probably still not run NS, because of mouse/keyboard driver hassles. But that's besides the point, I think. 2) Go to friend who has NS3.1 running, off a SCSI drive, with same CDROM drive, and a 1540B card. Plop 1542CF in instead of 1540B, and no go. Although it seems to control the HDD enough to start booting, it "fails to mount root" and after a few more normal-looking boot messages, drops byitself into the "...RDP... 'c' to continue" loop. The system is an EISA no-name. I know I have not explained the error messages in enough detail (didn't note them at the time, will go back to it once I have some leads), but can you think what might be happening here? Assume 1542CF was configured exactly like 1540B (default config, more or less), termination etc is correct, SCSI ID's as specified for NS etc. All drives internal. I'd suspect the cable, (1540B known to be more tolerant of under-spec cables) except for the fact that all works fine in Windows. If it is the cable, what should I do to find a good one (I don't have access to a workshop). If not, what on earth could it be? Any help appreciated, Illan (colo@twics.co.jp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: me@canis.metaworks.de (Ralf Canis) Subject: Re: Recording directly from a cdplayer Message-ID: <CJKL7w.Io@canis.metaworks.de> Sender: me@canis.metaworks.de (Ralf Canis) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 13:23:55 GMT In article <1994Jan11.153225.23095@info.ucl.ac.be> smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters) writes: > I'm desperately trying to record directly from a CDplayer... I don't know your CD-Player, but how about using a Toshiba 3401? You can read the audio samples from SCSI. There's a program called play3401 (ftp somewhere) which can read the data and play them through the DSP. Or write them to your really big hard disk... (44.1 kHz, 16Bit, stereo) Ralf
From: kov@onyx.dartmouth.edu (Ken Overton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Optical Drive Error Date: 14 Jan 1994 14:47:01 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Distribution: worlds Message-ID: <2h6b95$lo7@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> PROBLEM: Optical Disks are not recognized by the OS. Often disks sit in the drive trying to boot continually and always failing; brings everything else to a halt while trying. ERROR MESSAGES: od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 8 phys block 264 (4165:0:8) Jan 14 09:07:20 Workspace[144]: Workspace: 'mounted' message received for unknown device od_sect_to: N-1 Not Found od_sect_to: N-1 Not Found od_sect_to: N-1 Not Found and I've gotten: Unknown device type (od0) Unknown device type (od0) I HAVE TRIED THUS FAR: Rebooting and running fsck on the system so it comes up clean; then rebooting again in single user mode, trying to run /usr/etc/fsck and /usr/etc/disk on the optical while it's spinning in the drive unrecognized. No disk utility can access the disk, though. I had to eject the disk from the ROM monitor. MY OPINION: I've seen disk errors, where the problem is with the disk, they look like this: od0a: read recover (ECC) block 8 phys block 65055 (8214:0:15) This looks to me like it is a problem with the drive itself. Are there drive utilities to work on this? Should I just go out looking for either a new optical drive or just scrap the OD idea and go with a new hard drive? kov@onyx.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Does the Dell OmniPlex Pentium work? Message-ID: <2h6hlt$1jf@amber.hasc.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp. Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 16:36:13 GMT Hi all, I've priced out what I think to be a very nice configuration here it is (prices in Canadian): - Dell OmniPlex Pentium 66MHz, PCI/EISA buses, 256k cache, #9GXE PCI, on-board SCSI controller, keyboard [3809.00] - 2M Vram upgrade (#9 GXE) [ 140.00] - DPT 2022 (512k cache) [ 480.00] - 32M RAM [2060.00] - Logitech Mouse [ 79.00] - 3.5" floppy [ 90.00] - Intel EtherExpress 16bit [ 159.00] -------------------------------------------------------------- [6817.00] - IBM 17p (17" Trinitron) [1200.00] - 540M Maxtor SCSI [ 800.00] -------------------------------------------------------------- total = [8800.00] (6500 USD). This is a very nice system. The performance should be good, with the DPT card on the EISA bus, and the #9 (S3 chipset) card on the PCI bus. However, this has not been tested at all... is there anyone else that has tried it? There are other issues: 1. If NEXTSTEP had a driver for the on-board SCSI (It's on the PCI bus, so the on-board SCSI is much faster than the DPT) I wouldn't have to buy the DPT card. 2. I can likely get the RAM cheaper from a RAM warehouse. They quoted me $1,600 for the RAM two days ago, but the promotion ended, so it's $400 more now. Anyway, this looks like a great NEXTSTEP machine. It is moderately priced (compare against a similarly configured Dec MTE *486*/66 at $8500 USD), has Pentium power, and a real bus. This is my choice to run NEXTSTEP. Can someone tell me if it works??? Hopefully, - darcy -- When my friend Ivo met a pianist at the airport, they shared a cab into the city. You see, I'm dating a pianist right now, so when he told Paul about this, Paul said -- "What's with you and Darcy and the pianists?" Ivo replied -- "I guess I had a little pianist envy!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: miro graphics adapters Message-ID: <1994Jan14.174640.1@nl102.ittpub.nl> From: pmiso_jv@nl102.ittpub.nl (Jurjen Vorhauer) Date: 14 Jan 94 17:46:40 WET+0100 Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam Nntp-Posting-User: pmiss_ao Hi, I read a lot of good things about the miroCrystal 32S card. This card is a little too expensive for my budget tho. However, miro is producing several cheaper cards that seem to be the same as the 32S, except for the amount of VRAM on the card. The trouble is that nobody here is able to tell me whether these other cards -the 16S and 24S to be more specific- can be used with NS/fIP 3.1 or 3.2. If anybody knows about or has experience with these cards, I would be very interested to know more about them. Thanx, Jurjen pmiso_jv@nl100.ittpub.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com Subject: Re: Bus Logic 445S VL-Bus SCSI driver? Message-ID: <1994Jan14.174140.12101@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <2h4fe8$sik@hawaii.verity.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 17:41:40 GMT In article <2h4fe8$sik@hawaii.verity.com> bjohnson@verity.com (Brett Johnson) writes: > Has anyone seen the promised BusLogic 445S driver? > The last NS 3.2 Hardware Compatability guide lists it as "Q4 93" > but it is not on the CD-ROM nor is it at ftp.next.com under > pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/3.2_Drivers. > In fact there are no 3.2 Drivers in that directory. The current 3.2 Hardware Compatability Guide says "Planned Q194" for the BusLogic 445S. I didn't check the last version of the guide to see if this has changed. Joe Pasqua Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: jirapa@nextover.pe.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting QMS PostScript printer to serial B on 030 cube Date: 14 Jan 1994 18:33:51 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2h6oif$ck@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Keywords: QMS printer, serial B printer connections Hi, There seeems to be some problems when I had tried to connect a QMS-410 PostScript printer to my 030 cube on serial port B. My configurations are as follow (NeXTSTEP 3.0): 1) Mac printer cable connected to the serial port of the QMS to the serial port B on the 030 cube. 2) QMS showed and selected on the printmanager 3) Settings on the printmanager are 9600 bps, serial B, no handshaking (printer does not support it) 4) QMS printer was online and ready light was on. When I had tried to print a test page out. The que showed the job as printing on the QMS printer but I there were no physical printing. Would anybody know how I can go about solving this? Jirapa
From: dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu (Dave Slotnick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the best color printer for making transparencies on the NeXT? Date: 14 Jan 1994 19:35:11 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2h6s5f$2ot@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Just like the title sez: I'm looking to buy a color printer to make transparencies on the NeXT, and was wondering if anyone had a story (good OR bad!) to tell... -- *** David Slotnick *** Applied Research Laboratories *** dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu NeXTmail desired and appreciated
From: aho@next7.math.pitt.edu (Alan Ho) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Megapixel Color Display (17") failures Keywords: Megapixel display Message-ID: <11974@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 14 Jan 94 19:58:44 GMT Sender: news+@pitt.edu My color station's 17" Megapixel color display (made by SONY) has recently blown. (In its broken state it produces no image, just a stream of lines running horizontally across the screen). Has anyone with a color station had similar problems? This is not the first time my monitor has failed. (Each time NeXT, or Bell Atlantic has kindly sent me a replacement). I am beginning to worry that something is actually wrong within my slab and not in the monitors themselves. Could something that the computer is doing (a defective component inside the computer?) cause the monitors to fail? Thanks, Alan Ho aho@next1.math.pitt.edu
From: mcrocker@twain.ucs.umass.edu (Matthew S. Crocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help, looking for Hardware to run NSI 3.2 Date: 14 Jan 1994 19:09:38 -0500 Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <2h7c82INNrnv@twain.ucs.umass.edu> Howdie, I'mm looking at NSI 3.2 and I want to buy a machine to handl it money won't be an option (if that contract I just mailed comes through ;) I'm thinking : DELL or Gateway 60 Mhz Pentium PCI 32 MB RAM PCI Video card (which is best. I *WANT* 1280x1024x16 bit) 21" NEC 6FGp 1.2 Gig SCSI Drive (which brand??? any good ones?) SCSI controller (which one????) 4mm DAT (or similiar backup device SCSi, whats supported???) MS Mouse 3.5" 1.44Mb drive NEC CDR-84 (multispin 2x drive) I plan on installing NSI 3.2 w/developers package (I'm a student so I'll buy the student package) and OS/2 2.1 from CD. Does NS like OS/2 boot manager? what should I install first (I assume OS/2 BM)? Does NS like to have its own drive or will it live in a partition? What is a good size to dedicate for NS + devel (500 MB?? or more???). Is there support for a backup device (4mm DAT or 8mm Video) I want the "dream" system :) what would you buy? NOTE: money *is* an option but I can pay @$10k US for the complete system which should cover just about everything PLEASE RESPOND VIA E-MAIL : mcrocker@twain.ucs.umass.edu Thanks, -Matt/2 -- -Matthew S Crocker "The mask, given time, comes mcrocker@twain.ucs.umass.edu to be the face itself." -anonymous *OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2*OS/2* *linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*linux*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Adding a SCSI device after boot up? Message-ID: <CJn905.DtC@sounds.wa.com> Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <2g4l7c$4f0@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 23:52:52 GMT Actually, I think this is more of an OS tool and file system restriction than a hardware restriction. I am basing my statement on the fact that I have a program which accesses a foreign file system at a given SCSI ID. I wrote this program to completely skip the NEXTSTEP /dev/sdNa numbering scheme, and instead go directly to the sg (Generic SCSI) driver and ask for a specific device by target id and logical unit number. I do have to watch out if the ID in question belongs to the system - e.g. if I boot with the foreign SCSI device powered up, NEXTSTEP will assign something like /dev/sd2a to this device. Any SCSI target id which has been assigned a device name will require root priviledges to access. However, any unused target ID is free game for the sg driver. I have added drives at ID 0, 2, 4, 5, 6, whatever, with no problem. This approach works without fail for my program, which has exclusive access to the drive in question. NEXTSTEP never seems to miss the drive - which makes sense when you realize that it cannot understand the file system anyway. However, unless I am wrong, you will not be able to convince any of the utilities from NeXT to allow things to change according to its idea of the SCSI bus as determined at boot time, and reflected in the /dev/sdNa device list. Ivo Welch writes | : Isn't this true of all SCSI devices on all platforms? | | I understand that it is pretty much true of most platforms due to the SCSI | standard. However, there have been kludges on some systems that allow | "hot-switching" devices. I presume that these kludges consist of some | specialized hardware that fake to the controller the presence of a device | with some id (if the controller itself doesn't do it), even when it is not | there, so that the drive never seems to have been absent from the SCSI chain | to some software aware of the problem. -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Anybody got original Cube Maxtor XT-8380S with 512 bytes/sector ? Message-ID: <CJn9Hn.DwJ@sounds.wa.com> Summary: sdformat Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <2h19v3$82b@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <2h1kj2$5mi@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <mfausett.758425294@kirin> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 00:03:23 GMT In article <mfausett.758425294@kirin> mfausett@bbn.com (Mark Fausett) writes: >>Ernst Kloecker <ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes: >>> Did anybody ever reformat his Maxtor XT-8380S to 512 bytes/sector ? > >One MIGHT be aboe to do the trick with FWB's disk utilities on a Mac. >Quite some amazing stuff; understands and can change lots of settings, >including sector size on a LOT of disks. I can't verify that the Maxtor is >one of them. > >The package is ~$100 off the shelf. Check out the sdformat utility that I just uploaded to cs.orst.edu in the submissions directory. It uses generic SCSI and SCSI 2 commands to change the bytes/per sector settings and issue a low-level format. It accomplished this by "downloading" the current page 0 Mode settings page, modifying the block length fields, and then "uploading" the new settings before formatting. It has worked for many different drives, including my Maxtor MXT-1240S -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: icardena@ih-nxt05.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 15 Jan 1994 01:59:26 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2h7ilu$eq1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I think the subject says it all. I'm looking to buy a system running NeXTstep but I don't know which I should buy. I think I could get a highend ( 25mhz '040?) cube for around $2500 (U.S.) and a fully loaded Pentium would run me about _twice_ that. *sigh* I need help...I'm a software kinda guy lost in a hardware world. -Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Looking for a PC and Mac compatible priner at the same time Message-ID: <CJnGGt.JCr@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2h53de$dpn@access2.digex.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 02:34:04 GMT In article <2h53de$dpn@access2.digex.net> hacker@access2.digex.net (Dark Hacker) writes: >Well there it is. I need a printer for my Mac and IBM PC. I *do* have >a NeXT with a NeXT printer but the damned thing is an island unto itself. >Unless someone can recommend a resonably inexpensive way to make pull-down >print menus on the PC and Mac drive the NeXT laser over, say an ethernet, >then I'm gonna have to buy a whole new printer :-(. Please don't suggest >that I somehow dump the screen to a Postscript file unless this is a >utility built into DOS/Windows and accessible from ANY DOS program. Contact IPT and get uPrint or whatever they are calling it these days (Partner or Partner+ I think). Then your NeXT printer will appear in the chooser as a LW (Postscript Level2). You need to Ethernet the PC, Mac and NeXT. As far as the PC goes you can buy Copstalk ( a really good Windows' program which will act like the client part of System 7). It works with Ethernet cards. I have been using it with a 3-COM Etherlink II ( now for sale as I got an SMC card which is supported by NS/FIP). Copstalk has a Chooser and the NeXT printer will appear again as a Postscript 2 printer. [ ] -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 15 Jan 1994 03:29:26 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2h7num$3e2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2h7ilu$eq1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <2h7ilu$eq1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> icardena@ih-nxt05.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: > > I think the subject says it all. I'm looking to buy a system > running NeXTstep but I don't know which I should buy. I think I could get > a highend ( 25mhz '040?) cube for around $2500 (U.S.) and a fully loaded > Pentium would run me about _twice_ that. *sigh* I need help...I'm a > software kinda guy lost in a hardware world. > > -Ian Think about software if you buy white. Where are you going to get a good word processor?
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the best color printer for making transparencies on the NeXT? Message-ID: <Jan.14.23.53.21.1994.28038@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 15 Jan 94 04:53:22 GMT References: <2h6s5f$2ot@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu (Dave Slotnick) writes: >Just like the title sez: I'm looking to buy a color printer to make >transparencies on the NeXT, and was wondering if anyone had a story (good >OR bad!) to tell... Welp, Im using a NeXT color printer for transparencies and they are spectacular I think that the Cannon 600 or 820 should offer terrific output also. But if you have the big bux, about 12000, you can get a color laser printer, which will do the best job. Later, John
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 94 01:28:28 EST Organization: Delphi Internet Message-ID: <940115.05308.ECESYS@delphi.com> References: <2h7ilu$eq1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Ian: We have a very price-competitive product line of Wingine-based NSFIP machines and have been actively manufacturing NEXTSTEP compatible machines since we showed our systems at NeXTWORLD EXPO last year. We are listed in the NEXTSTEP VERSION 3.2 Compatibility guide(request #1483), and will be one of featured Intel boxes at Devcon in Wash DC used by NeXT. The machines are available in black or white, and provide excellent video performance. Current resolutions supported by the hardware are 1024x768x16 bit color, 1152x900x16 bit color, 1280x1024x8 bit grey and 1024x768x8bit grey. Their video and CPU performance are better than the original 25MHz 040 NeXTstations, and pricing for complete systems starts at $3500. We have just finished our 8 bit greyscale driver(in addition to the 1024x768x16 bit color driver) , so if you have a requirement for fast( NXBENCH=1.6) low end greyscale machines, as well as our high end color models, please send e-mail to this address with your FAX number, and we will get prices and configs to you. The high-end color drivers [> 1024x768] are currently in beta , and will be available shortly.These systems are definitely comparable to the standard configs often quoted here and include DPT SCSI I/O subsystems which can be scaled up, utilizing a cache module for heavy I/O requirements. There are a number of good NSFIP sytems available now. We would encourage you to investigate the full spectrum of INTEL 80486 price/performance options. Martin Fossum eCesys,Inc.
From: slwdz@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Connecting to Net via AUI port on Intel EtherExpress Message-ID: <1994Jan14.135114.7884@cc.usu.edu> Date: 14 Jan 94 13:51:14 MDT References: <2gumpiINN8us@network.ucsd.edu> <2h4mfo$n26@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Organization: Utah State University In article <2h4mfo$n26@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu writes: > In <2gumpiINN8us@network.ucsd.edu>, jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) writes: >>I'm trying to connect to the local thick ethernet via the AUI port on an >>Intel EtherExpress and a transceiver. The PC is running NS3.2 and is >>configured stand alone. I can ping localhost and my own internet number, >>but with everything else I get a connection timed out error. Any ideas? >>Is it not possible to use the AUI port on the Intel EtherExpress? > > I don't know, but I had an analogous annoying experience. I had been > trying to use a 3C509 card on NSi 3.2 via twisted pair, but it just didn't > seem to work. Then I read the fine print on a NeXTanswers doc, saying that > for the 3C509, only coax was supported. WHY ?!? That is so stupid. You can use twisted pair with the 3.2 drivers. And they also released an updated driver before that, that added twisted pair support. I don't see any reason why AUI should not work. You might want to see if your port (via the diagnostic/config software for DOS) is set to just one port, rather than switching to whatever the active one is. Good luck, John Zollinger slwdz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/FIP 3.2 Drivers for StealthPro? Message-ID: <1994Jan14.194422.1@vms4.sc.csupomona.edu> From: acking@vms4.sc.csupomona.edu Date: 14 Jan 94 19:44:22 PDT Organization: College of Science Computational Systems Nntp-Posting-User: dlallen Hi everyone, I just got a Diamond Stealth Pro VLB 2 Meg and I was wondering if there are any drivers out for NSFIP?. I use the S3 display adapter which came with NeXTSTEP 3.2 and all I get is a black screen. Please let me know if you come across the drivers thanks. acking@vms5.sc.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Buslogic EISA controllers with NS 3.2 Message-ID: <westesCJnzBA.AHM@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 09:21:09 GMT I've heard great things about the Buslogic 747 EISA SCSI host adapter used with NS 3.2. Does the Buslogic 742 EISA host adapter also work with NS 3.2? What are the key differences between the 742 and 747? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) Subject: Fujitsu 1.2GB HD with NeXT Turbo? Message-ID: <1994Jan15.020743.24280@cs.sfu.ca> Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 02:07:43 GMT Hi: I'm planning to buy a Fujitsu M2694F internal hard drive, 1.2GB (unformatted), 1080MB (formatted), 9ms average access time, for my NeXT Turbo. The best price I've seen is from Megahaus Hard Drives in the US for US$829 (advertised price in PC Magazine, 25 January '94 issue). If anyone has answers to the following questions, I'd really appreciate hearing from them: [1] Has anyone put this particular hard drive inside a slab? [2] Does anyone know of any heat or power supply problems with this combination of hard drive and machine? [3] Are Megahaus good people to do business with? Thanks a lot, - Dan Fass
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SMC Elite Ultra driver for NS/FIP ? Date: 15 Jan 1994 14:11:52 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2h8tj8$1hg@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Last month I got a new PC which I eventually want to use for NS/FIP as well. Its network adaptor is an SMC Elite Ultra, the successor of the Elite 16. As posted in this group earlier, the NS/FIP 3.2 driver from the CD-ROM does not work with this card. Does anybody know wether the driver will be updated ? Cheers, Ernst. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anybody got original Cube Maxtor XT-8380S with 512 bytes/sector ? Message-ID: <Jan.15.15.34.12.1994.19159@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 15 Jan 94 20:34:12 GMT References: <2h19v3$82b@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <2h1kj2$5mi@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <mfausett.758425294@kirin> <CJn9Hn.DwJ@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) writes: >Check out the sdformat utility that I just uploaded to cs.orst.edu in the >submissions directory. It uses generic SCSI and SCSI 2 commands to change the >bytes/per sector settings and issue a low-level format. It accomplished this >by "downloading" the current page 0 Mode settings page, modifying the block >length fields, and then "uploading" the new settings before formatting. >It has worked for many different drives, including my Maxtor MXT-1240S Brian was nice enough to let me 'test' out his sdformat program... It is a great piece of software, and is easy to use. It also works on my intel machine, with a Segate Wren VIII. It seems to work with just about anything that can answer to a SCSI mode sense. I was able to set my block size anywhere from 512b/s to 4096b/s with no problems. However, to get higher block sizes to work on intel you need a boot drive formatted at 512b/s and then you can use your bigger drive at say 1024b/s. Anyway, I just wanted to thank Brian for his nice app, that really helped me out, and recommend it to anyone that needs to change his/her block size on their HD. Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Adding disk space Message-ID: <1994Jan15.214032.4793@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis Date: Sat, 15 Jan 1994 21:40:32 GMT I would like to increase the disk space on my NeXT turbo ADB from the 400 Mb internal drive to about 1.2 Gb. Since last time I bought a piece of hardware I ended up with something that others have subsequently complained about (WangDAT - although I haven't had problems yet, had I asked then, I would have ended up with Archive) I thought I better ask the net for the current wisdom. So the question: what is the current wisdom on an external or internal disk drive for this computer, with both reliability and price in mind? Thanks in advance, Don Petcher
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anybody got original Cube Maxtor XT-8380S with 512 bytes/sector ? Date: 15 Jan 1994 23:03:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2h9snq$evn@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <Jan.15.15.34.12.1994.19159@gandalf.rutgers.edu> In article <Jan.15.15.34.12.1994.19159@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: > Brian was nice enough to let me 'test' out his sdformat program... It is a > great piece of software, and is easy to use. It also works on my intel > machine, with a Segate Wren VIII. It seems to work with just about anything > that can answer to a SCSI mode sense. I was able to set my block size > anywhere from 512b/s to 4096b/s with no problems. However, to get higher > block sizes to work on intel you need a boot drive formatted at 512b/s and > then you can use your bigger drive at say 1024b/s. > > Anyway, I just wanted to thank Brian for his nice app, that really helped me > out, and recommend it to anyone that needs to change his/her block size on > their HD. After researching the possibility of reformatting my DEC DSP3105 to 1024-byte blocks, I'm pretty confident that no end-user utility, including sdformat, will successfully reformat this drive or any other drive with an embedded armature(?) (I can't recall the name for the device). I believe certain IBM drives use this design as well. This design is supposed to make the drive more reliable by reducing the number of moving parts, but it makes factory reformatting the only option :-( So I wouldn't try reformatting unless I was positive that my drive could be reformatted by sdformat or any other end-user utility because screwing up can leave a drive unusable requiring factory repair. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: martija@mundania.CS.ORST.EDU (Jared Martinsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What should I buy Date: 15 Jan 1994 23:54:55 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2h9vofINNje3@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> A friend told me that I needed these requirements to run next step. AMI biase American Megatrend Incop. Is an AMI biase an intel chip? 16 megs ram EISA bus Should I get the EISA or will another bus be about as good for the price? Is can I not buy a EISA bus now and add one later without having to buy a new motherboard? adapt tech 1742b video card- ati ultipro sound card - 16 bit media vision pro audio spectra 16 CD-rom harddrive monitor I am curious which parts I should buy or what is recommended. Actually right now I am more interesting in having a system that run X-windows, Borland c++ , Warlords, Doom, etc. I just want a system that has the capiability to run next-step in the future without selling a video card and a sound card and everything else. My biggest concern is compatability. I want to be able to run in DOS, Windows and eventually nextstep. thanks, -- Jared Martinsen martija@instruction.cs.orst.edu Phone(503) 757-3354
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel based NeXT; What to buy? Date: 15 Jan 1994 19:31:12 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2h9cpg$8r@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Jan13.125341.15730@mail.vitech.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) writes: >Give me some recommendations, so that I can build an NeXT system what is >capable to do following things: >1280*1024 resolution What kind of display hardware is needed and >With 16 or 24 bit colors What is fast solution (not the fastest) to this > one? Miro Crystal 32S. >CPU An 486, but which one. Is the NeXT Step usable > on 486DX2 with 50MHz??? You should prefer a 486 DX2/66. >RAM How much? Is 24MB enough for NeXT Step? > (how much it will swap to harddrive with this > amount of RAM?) For 16 bit color, this may be enough, for true color, 32 MB is better. >Local bus or not? That's the question. Yes. PCI is still too bogus, and a good local bus graphics card gives about the same performance. EISA graphics performance is too low. >Hardrive How big? 500 MB minimum. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C. McAfee) Subject: Fujitsu drive, 25MHz '040 NScolor: which SCSI level? Message-ID: <1994Jan16.102345.6532@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 10:23:45 GMT Hi, I am trying to install my 1 Gig Fujitsu drive (M2694ESA). I have had several people tell me to set the SCSI level to 1, yet the FAQ imply that level 2 should be set: (M4 of FAQ.peripherals) "[NeXT] supports SCSI-2 disks running in asynchronous mode" Which is the proper setting? I have a 25MHz '040 NScolor. I will mail a summary of my installation for anyone interested. Thanks, Chris mcafee@cs.stanford.edu
From: douglass@access.digex.net (John Douglass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems starting Next 3.2 Date: 16 Jan 1994 08:13:22 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <2hbehi$529@access.digex.net> I am installing NextStep 3.2 for the first time. I am able to load the minisystem from my CD Rom but the system hangs when it tries to boot. My configuration is: Micronics 486/50 Eisa motherboard with bios version 1.1 Adaptec 1742A Controller with bios version 1.34 Genoa Video card, mod 7900 with 1 Meg Ram Micropolis 323 Meg Hard drive, Mod 1684 When I try to boot, the NextStep logo appears- it says reading configeration, then laoding configeration. It locks while starting NextStep. If I try to use the config=Default command to start NextStep, it executes each line but hangs when it gets to "Registering PC Keyboard0". Any help would be appreciated! John
From: tom@druid.bo.open.de (Thomas Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Toshiba MK537FB with white hardware Date: 16 Jan 1994 11:45:06 +0100 Organization: News at druid Message-ID: <tom.758717011@druid> I have problems using a Toshiba MK537FB with Nextstep FIP (Adaptec 1542B). Fdisk can partition the harddisk, but /usr/etc/disk fails with the following output : NeXTSTEP partition base = 1050624 NeXTSTEP partition size = 1024000 disk name: TOSHIBA MK537FB 6261 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> init DESTROYS ALL EXISTING DISK DATA -- really initialize? y enter host name: druid enter disk label: toshiba writing disk label Boot block is "/usr/standalone/i386/boot", ok? y ...r/w returned -1; expected 32768 Write of boot block 0 failed ...r/w returned -1; expected 32768 Write of boot block 1 failed No boot blocks on disk The drive works well with MSDOS .... any ideas ??? Does anyone use a Toshiba MK537F without problems on white/black hardware ?? Thanx in advance, Tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lturetsk@capstan.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: SCSI Controllers Message-ID: <1994Jan16.191222.12435@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale Univ. Science & Engineering Computing Facility, New Haven, CT 06520 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 19:12:22 GMT Could someone please tell me which SCSI controllers are supported under NS/iP? I've read lots of stuff about which one's aren't, but ... ;). Please include a list of ISA, VESA, EISA and PCI (if any). I've only got a choice between ISA & VESA (EISA is too expensive and PCI is not really finished, in my eyes), but I'm sure others might be interested in other busses (bii? ;). Thanx, LT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Message-ID: <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account) Organization: PDH, Inc. References: <2h7num$3e2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 05:52:56 GMT Todd Takken writes: > Ian Patrick Cardenas writes: > > > > I think the subject says it all. [munch] *sigh* I need > > help...I'm a software kinda guy lost in a hardware world. > > Think about software if you buy white. Where are you going to > get a good word processor? And where will you get a good word processor for a black machine, pray tell? One that is supported? My opinion would be to get a white machine and install both DOS/Windows and NeXTSTEP. NeXTSTEP, IMHO, is for software development (custom applications) at this moment in time. If a groundswell occurs in the next year or so, there might be a resurgence in shrink-wrap apps, but that is a ways out in the future. Use Windows - uggh - and Microsoft Word and Excel and things like that for your everyday office work, or use Framemaker on Windows which will be supported (whereas Framemaker on NeXT is in doubt), etc. Use NeXTSTEP to build the best custom apps you can in the shortest possible time. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is. Jon Rosen
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 16 Jan 1994 20:38:42 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> Jon F. Rosen writes > > Think about software if you buy white. Where are you going to > > get a good word processor? > > And where will you get a good word processor for a black machine, > pray tell? One that is supported? This comes up periodically. On Black machines, you have WordPerfect, Frame, WriteNow, PasteUp, TeX. You may not think WP is "good" but it does do the job and allows easy document interchange with other platforms. Ditto Frame. Both are "supported" in the sense that you can call someone to get help; neither are supported in the sense that there will be future versions. But if the current version does what you want, you're home. PasteUp is more for DTP than standard word processing, but is still very much supported (by AFS). WriteNow is not supported at all right now (pun intended) and has a lot less features, but it does work. Most Black machines you might buy will already have it. TeX comes free; its very powerful, but not exactly a joy to use. WriteUp should ship fairly soon. Given NDAs, I can't say much moe than that it looks good. It will ship for both Black and White. There's another app called WriteStep in the pipeline that I know nothing about. And then there's Pages, which looks really cool and might even ship one day ... :-) Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, while on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. All in all, not a bad array of choices, current and upcoming, high-end and low-end, cheap and expensive. > NeXTSTEP, IMHO, is for software development (custom applications) > at this moment in time. You're entitled to your HO. I've been using NS purely to run shrinkwrap apps for 3 years now, and have been very happy with it. You'll have to drag me kicking and screaming to get me to use a Windows box. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars Andreas Stole) Subject: Help installing a Micropolis 1.7 GB (2217) drive Message-ID: <1994Jan16.221138.2820@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 22:11:38 GMT I need help installing my new 2217 Micropolis 1.7 gigabyte drive. Unfortunately, I have no disktab entry, etc. Has anyone had any luck installing this drive, and if so, could you pass along the any pointers, etc. that might be helpful? Thanks. -- Lars A. Stole Graduate School of Business University of Chicago 1101 E. 58th Street Chicago, IL 60637 U.S.A.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lturetsk@capstan.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: Re: SCSI Controllers Message-ID: <1994Jan16.220735.17957@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale Univ. Science & Engineering Computing Facility, New Haven, CT 06520 References: <1994Jan16.191222.12435@news.yale.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 22:07:35 GMT Whoops! Right after I posted that article, I started to read the Jan. 1994 NeXTWorld and found the info I was asking for. As an apology (although I don't think one is necessary) I'm going to include that info here: From NeXTWorld, January 1994: SCSI Cards that are supported under NeXTStep/iNTEL Processors: Card | Bus -------------------------+----- Adaptec 154x B, C & CF | ISA " 174x B & C | EISA Bus Logic BT-542 | ISA " " BT-747 | EISA DPT 2011/90, 2011/95 | ISA " 2012/90, 2011/95 | EISA " 2021 | ISA " 2022, 2122 | EISA I assume all of this info is correct, but if it isn't, please realize that it's not from me, but from NeXTWorld. LT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Subject: 32 meg SIMMs Message-ID: <CJqpKJ.MD6@kaiwan.com> Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 20:43:30 GMT I'm looking at a possible purchase of some 32 meg SIMMs; they didn't come out of a NeXT and they are as follows: 72 pin 70ns, 8x36. I want to install them in my TurboND. Do I have to contend with a size limit? I know the 8 meg SIMMs fit fine after they're installed, including the parity checking bars. I'd appreciate any insights. -Chip
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 16 Jan 1994 23:40:50 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2hcja2$pbp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@leland.stanford.edu> wrote: > >Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, while >on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. Executor is MAB, and will emulate Mac/MSWord 4 and 5 under NS/FIP. That's the only word processor currently available, unless, of course, one uses SoftPC/Win or boots in DOS. > >All in all, not a bad array of choices, current and upcoming, >high-end and low-end, cheap and expensive. > >> NeXTSTEP, IMHO, is for software development (custom applications) >> at this moment in time. > Well, no, except that there are NO word processors at all at present for NS/FIP that I know about. Rather damning. If that doesn't change I won't stay with the OS, no matter what. Robert de Lucca
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 16 Jan 94 23:00:55 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.758761255@uiuc.edu> References: <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Stefano Pagiola writes: >On Black machines, you have WordPerfect, Frame, WriteNow, PasteUp, TeX. Unfortunately, only Frame will load data from an application other than Frame. Frame/Mac is more useful in this respect, since it can load MS Word documents (but then, if you have Frame/Mac, why bother buying an NS machine to run Frame? It's the same interface with the major difference being that the Mac will see bug fixes and upgrades). WordPerfect/NeXT has had problems loading data from Word Perfect/DOS and WP/Windows (in my experience) and PasteUp will only load it's own proprietary format (that probably nobody else will license because the userbase is so small). I find WriteNow to be a joke, it's pitiful when compared to MS Word or WP/Windows. It can't even do double-spacing correctly. Also, I'm told that because it was written in assembly language on Motorola machines, the chances that it will be ported to Intel are extrememly slim (probably no chance). To me, TeX, with all it's power and ability, is more programming than word processing and since it's not a GUI-app it's not what I would guess most word processor users expect to use when they sit down to write something. It's certainly not what I would want to use after having paid all this money for a machine capable of displaying wonderful graphics and having such an intuitive GUI. In my opinion, with the exception of Frame, none of the word processors for NS in the history of NS have been able to compete with Word/Mac and Windows or WordPerfect/Mac and Windows. These two Mac and Windows apps beat all the NS word processor apps (but Frame) hands-down in terms of functionality, ability to load documents created by other word processors and popularity (aka ability to get help from others). I think NS could have been the best desktop publishing machine ever with all the leading apps, but so far it's all been thrown away for catering to developers. >Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, while >on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. I'm not so sure this is such a good option because Executor doesn't run System 7 and it's black and white only (even on color machines) so using the latest Word under Executor, you're missing out on some of the functionality of Word (and the programs with which Word can swap data). To get the most out of the programs you could pick up a small, used color Mac and run Word on that. >All in all, not a bad array of choices, current and upcoming, >high-end and low-end, cheap and expensive. I think for a machine that has been advertised as something for college users and (now) business users, it's a dreadful array of choices. I don't think it's realistic for business users to have to do work on a computer without a word processor that can't handle their MS Word or WordPerfect data flawlessly. If you need good word processing *now* (and possibly have needed it since you bought an NS machine), I also suggest looking to another OS (Mac or Windows) and take another look at NS when developers have shipped something competitive. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to boot cube from external disk not lowest SCSI ID? Date: 17 Jan 1994 00:28:09 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services Message-ID: <2hcm2p$nh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> I've got a cube that I would like to boot from an external disk. This is a really old cube that has been upgraded from an 030, and the scsi id of the internal disk is 0, so I can't just put my external at scsi 0 and boot it. I need the proper syntax for the bsd command at the NeXT> prompt. the command you would think would work, bsd(1,0,0), doesn't; it still boots from sd0a. I was once told by a NeXT support person to use bsd(1,0,0) -rootdev=sd1a but that doesn't work either at least in this case; the external is a freshly built 3.2 system and the internal is 2.something; it starts to boot from the external, then asks me: rootdev? if I type sd1a, I get "init exits with 1" and the machine just sits there. it doesn't want /dev/sd1a; when I try that, it tells me to type it in a format that is sd1a. I really don't want to take apart this machine to change the SCSI id on the internal disk. HELP! danno -- dan pritts consultant/system administrator dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/us unix support group
From: "Gabriel D. Underwood" <gabe+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCI bus Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 19:32:33 -0500 Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ghCRmVO00iV6Q5jVEz@andrew.cmu.edu> Could someone explain to me what the PCI bus is? Are there any peripheral devices that use it that will work with NeXSTEP 3.2? I'm trying to put together a pentium box to run NeXTSTEP on. All the pentium machines advertised in Computer Shopper have PCI bus. I'd never heard of it. Should I try to find an ISA and VL-BUS pentium? -- Gabriel Underwood gabe+@cmu.edu "Handcrafted with pride in the United States by non-exploited, entrepreneur- type craftspeople who ride their bikes a lot"
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 17 Jan 1994 04:13:05 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2hd38h$iu2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <jeffo.758761255@uiuc.edu> J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes > WordPerfect/NeXT has had problems loading data from Word Perfect/DOS > and WP/Windows (in my experience) ... I suppose mileage varies, but I've never had a single problem importing WP/DOS or WP/Windows documents into WP/NeXT. I usually need to make sure the formatting still looks good, of course, since the available fonts are almost always different, but that's about it. Features found in WP/DOS not available in WP/NeXT get converted to an "unknown" code and cause no problem other than their absence. (the same problem occurs the other way, BTW: features supported by WP/NeXT like embedded eps disappear under WP/DOS). > ... I find WriteNow to be a joke, it's pitiful > when compared to MS Word or WP/Windows. Absolutely. But its not competing with them. If all you want it to type letters its quite adequate. > To me, TeX, with all it's power and ability, is more programming > than word processing and since it's not a GUI-app it's not what > I would guess most word processor users expect to use when they > sit down to write something. It's certainly not what I would > want to use after having paid all this money for a machine capable > of displaying wonderful graphics and having such an intuitive > GUI. I don't like using TeX either, but if you need to use it (it IS very powerful for scientific papers, and a widely used standard) you're definitely better off using the NeXTSTEP version than any other. > I think NS could have been the best desktop publishing machine ever > with all the leading apps, but so far it's all been thrown away for > catering to developers. No argument there. > > Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, > > while on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. > > I'm not so sure this is such a good option because Executor doesn't > run System 7 and it's black and white only (even on color machines) Color's not such a big deal when you're word processing. > ... To get the most out of the programs you could pick up a small, > used color Mac and run Word on that. The point isn't to get "the most" but to do what you need to do. I _never_ use color in my word processing (what's the point? I can't print it, and even if I could I couldn't photocopy it) so Word under Executor works just fine for me. > >All in all, not a bad array of choices, current and upcoming, > >high-end and low-end, cheap and expensive. > > I think for a machine that has been advertised as something for > college users and (now) business users, it's a dreadful array of > choices. I don't think it's realistic for business users to have > to do work on a computer without a word processor that can't > handle their MS Word or WordPerfect data flawlessly. Again, your mileage may vary, but I've never had a single problem with either of these document formats. > If you need good word processing *now* (and possibly have needed it > since you bought an NS machine), Nobody is going to buy NeXTSTEP for its word processing options. But I think the available choices are certainly sufficient to ensure that few should NOT buy NeXTSTEP because of its word processing options. Of course, there's always room for improvement. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 17 Jan 1994 04:15:52 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2hd3do$iup@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2hcja2$pbp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> L. Anathea Brooks writes > > Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, > > while on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. > > Executor is MAB, and will emulate Mac/MSWord 4 and 5 under > NS/FIP. Sure. But on an Intel box you're going to get better performance from SoftPC than you would from Executor (and conversely on a Motorola box). > >All in all, not a bad array of choices, current and upcoming, > >high-end and low-end, cheap and expensive. > > Well, no, except that there are NO word processors at > all at present for NS/FIP that I know about. Rather > damning. If that doesn't change I won't stay with > the OS, no matter what. Wrong. WordPerfect is available for NS/I; it ships fat. And WriteUp will soon be available. -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: Adding IDE drive to SCSI System? Message-ID: <1994Jan16.234009.25851@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Sun, 16 Jan 1994 23:40:09 GMT I have a system that presently boots from a SCSI drive; I would like to add an IDE drive as drive d: (i.e., not boot from the ide drive). Do you know if this can be done? I an guessing that this will work if I connect the ide drive in the usual manner, but identify it in the PC's BIOS setup as the second drive... Any thoughts? Thanks, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571 -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dvukovic@csn.org (Donald VuKovic) Subject: Re: Adding IDE drive to SCSI System? Message-ID: <CJrC8G.CCG@csn.org> Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. References: <1994Jan16.234009.25851@Princeton.EDU> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 04:53:03 GMT Gerard Philippe Menos (gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU) wrote: : I have a system that presently boots from a SCSI drive; I would like : to add an IDE drive as drive d: (i.e., not boot from the ide drive). : Do you know if this can be done? I an guessing that this will work if : I connect the ide drive in the usual manner, but identify it in the : PC's BIOS setup as the second drive... I have done this by useing Ontrack software 'Disk Manager'. The package needs for your IDE controller to be on the alternate address for IDE controllers. My IDE controller had this capability. If yours does not you are out of luck. I transfered all my files to the SCSI dirve and took out the IDE drives. So I don't know how well it would have worked on a running system. donaldV : Any thoughts? : Thanks, : Phil : -- : G. Philippe Menos : gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] : Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries : voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571 : -- : G. Philippe Menos : gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] : Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries : voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon) Subject: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable? Message-ID: <1994Jan17.061413.14935@seas.smu.edu> Sender: news@seas.smu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas Distribution: na Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 06:14:13 GMT I need to move about 2.4 gigs of data between Mac and NeXT (black). Then I just need to store it. I am aware that NeXT can read Mac formatted hard drives. Anyway, I figured that the best idea would be a removable medium. So far the two most logical solutions are the 128 3.5" MO drives and the Bournelli 105 meg removable hard drives. I think the Bournelli has faster access time, but the optical media is supposedly much cheaper and last longer. So, which of the two is the better product? Where are the best places to find good pricing on either? I'm a grad student if any place offers discounts (the school doesnt carry either).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Message-ID: <CJrGAL.5u4@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <jeffo.758761255@uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 06:20:44 GMT In article <jeffo.758761255@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: [ ] > >Unfortunately, only Frame will load data from an application other >than Frame. Frame/Mac is more useful in this respect, since it can >load MS Word documents (but then, if you have Frame/Mac, why bother >buying an NS machine to run Frame? It's the same interface with the >major difference being that the Mac will see bug fixes and upgrades). >WordPerfect/NeXT has had problems loading data from Word Perfect/DOS >and WP/Windows (in my experience) and PasteUp will only load it's own >proprietary format (that probably nobody else will license because the >userbase is so small). I find WriteNow to be a joke, it's pitiful >when compared to MS Word or WP/Windows. It can't even do >double-spacing correctly. Also, I'm told that because it was written >in assembly language on Motorola machines, the chances that it will be >ported to Intel are extrememly slim (probably no chance). To me, TeX, >with all it's power and ability, is more programming than word >processing and since it's not a GUI-app it's not what I would guess >most word processor users expect to use when they sit down to write >something. It's certainly not what I would want to use after having >paid all this money for a machine capable of displaying wonderful >graphics and having such an intuitive GUI. In my opinion, with the >exception of Frame, none of the word processors for NS in the history >of NS have been able to compete with Word/Mac and Windows or >WordPerfect/Mac and Windows. These two Mac and Windows apps beat all >the NS word processor apps (but Frame) hands-down in terms of >functionality, ability to load documents created by other word >processors and popularity (aka ability to get help from others). Both Word and WP are examples of bloated software, and neither is enough to get excited about. WriteNow may not be perfect but it's fast and simple. However, I do acknowledge that much is subjective here, so I guess it depends on what documents you are creating. For technical documents with a great dgal of mathematics there really is no other choice on any platform other than something like TeX/LaTeX. What makes the NeXT version so nice is that you can get this neat application called Equation Builder which will translate virtually any equation, system of equations, etc...into TeX. And it does it right. Thus EQB+ NeXT TeX makes for a very usable solution for people involved in preparing mathematical/ scientific documents. FrameMaker is fine for the occasional equation, but its equation editor is weak. Same for most of the other editors and wp'ing programs found on PC's/Mac's. On the PC there is a nice graphical front-end to TeX called Scientific Word. For your more mundane everyday letters and such, there will very soon be several word processors for the NeXT (black or white). The NeXT as an information gathering tool is great. People who spend their time handing memos to secretaries for typing may not realize this. The Mac and Windows work fine for someone spending long periods of time using the same application, or short periods using several. Neither is acceptable to anyone who has become accustomed to a multitasking environment, which is why I personally prefer the NeXT to either. In fact I prefer the Amiga to either, and Word and WP aren't there either, but I can get a great deal more done with either the Amiga or the NeXT than with a Mac or a Windows computer. Perhaps things will change, although I wouldn't count on it. DOS/Windows is a great quantity games' machine, and the Mac is fine for music and DTP'ing. Both of course are great disappointments. After 10 years you'd think the Mac would be improving...The really interesting aspect in all of this is how American business has settled on DOS/Windows as its solution to many problems, and in the process has created an industry dedicated to fixing the solution. [ ] >I think for a machine that has been advertised as something for >college users and (now) business users, it's a dreadful array of >choices. I don't think it's realistic for business users to have to >do work on a computer without a word processor that can't handle their >MS Word or WordPerfect data flawlessly. The NeXT is a great choice for students and faculty at colleges. >If you need good word processing *now* (and possibly have needed it >since you bought an NS machine), I also suggest looking to another OS >(Mac or Windows) and take another look at NS when developers have >shipped something competitive. The simple solution is to buy an inexpensive NeXT PC and run whichever word processor you want. Geez, you'd think there'd be more to life than word processing and spreadsheets. It's that where all the billions are going? >J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please) -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: How do you mount a dos partition on a 2nd drive? Message-ID: <1994Jan17.065345.879@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Mon, 17 Jan 94 06:53:45 GMT I've got a 2nd IDE disk set up in my white NS system; I used fdisk to partition it, for DOS & NS. Everything initialized & mounted just fine for the NS partition, but the dos partition doesn't mount on login. I have a small dos partition on the root disk, and that automagically mounts on login. The 2nd partition on the 2nd disk is formatted & all that. I'm suspecting that i'll have to stick a line in my /etc/fstab file, but i'm not sure what; any help out there? danke dan
From: premise@billthe.engin.umich.edu (sean michael willson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT computer Date: 17 Jan 1994 07:07:52 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hddg8INNk7l@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Originator: premise@billthe.engin.umich.edu I am in the market for two white hardware NeXT machines.... can anyone give me an idea on what machines to buy.....I will be doing software developement for NeXTSTEP, OS/2, and Windows NT......So I will need some good sized Hard drives. I will be putting NeXTSTEP one both and OS/2 on one and Windows NT on the other. I will there for also need 32 MB of RAM....Now I have been watching this news group alot lately and I see all the differant problems people are going through. I would like to buy a NeXTSTEP ready machine. Can you plaese give me some suggestions and maybe e-mail me som prices....It would be greatly appreciated. THANKX Sean Willson reply to premise@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cheangk@staff.tc.umn.edu (Pitt Cheang) Subject: Why not NeXTSTEP and NeXTstation together?? Message-ID: <chea0009.758790428@gold> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 07:07:08 GMT Just started to read NeXT newsgroup lately (by accidently came across), seems everybody are getting very excited about NeXTstep porting to other platforms, I only use NeXTstation for a few times but I'm impressed. I thought NeXTstation or Cube was the best to run NeXTstep because they were born together and NeXTstep mush take the best adventage of NeXT hardware, then why is NeXT machine got terminated and people are exciting about getting NeXTstep on their platform?? Thanks in advance for telling the story and NO flame please. -- With best regards. | PITT CHEANG ~{V#8U=!~} | University of Minnesota | | cheangk@staff.tc.umn.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 17 Jan 1994 02:04:20 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2hdd9k$kid@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: nuggets@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Hentschke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which ATi REALLY WORX? Date: 17 Jan 1994 10:31:12 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2hdpdg$g61@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ! I'm reading here about thousands of problems between ati, adaptec and PAS16 ... my PAS16 works up to 44khz 16Bit mono but over 22khz 16bit stereo it crashes (under FreeBSD: X11 changes sometimes the resolution or crashes too. is this a fight between et4000 and pas16? or is this my atapdec?) PAS16: irq 12 drq 7 soundblasteremu: irq 5 drq 3. 1542B: default settings. can i solve this problem without changing my scsi-card ? (btXXX emulates 1542, that can't be a solution. dptXXX: no expieriences.) and i'll trowing away my et4000 to get color in my life. :) there should be a problem between 1542B and ati mach32 eisa. (does this includes all ati's or have someone expieriences with 1542b+atimach32isa or 1542b+pas16+atimach32isa ?) many questions, any problems, but !!!please!!!! NOT the one Answer: 42! Thanx in advance ... Lars.
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 17 Jan 1994 10:25:38 GMT Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX Message-ID: <2hdp32$ru9@inxs.concert.net> References: <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <2hcja2$pbp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> WordPerfect is STILL a current (albeit not having the features of the DOS/ Windows/Macintosh counterparts) word processing package. It is still sold, still supported by WordPerfect Corporation and it is MAB (FAT). Yes WP should have had an upgrade by now to 6.X and probably would have were it not be Bill Gates/Microsoft. On the other hand, most of the UNIX variants of WP were Version 4.2 (a little worse off than we are) and those are gone now too. If WP makes it through the next year, I think we'll see an upgrade to what is considered the industry standard word processor. -- Advanced Business Systems A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-8553 [Voice] 19 Joci Court (919) 682-1126 [Fax] Durham, North Carolina 27704 ****EFFECTIVE 10 JANUARY 1994, PLEASE SEND EMAIL TO: info@absystems.com****
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: V1.1 Beta of Serial Port Driver Summary: 1-8 serial ports per Instance/Interrupt, with four instances supported Keywords: DigiBoard COM Serial Message-ID: <CJrJpo.1q3@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 07:34:35 GMT Organization: VE6MGS Gateway This updated Beta version of the Serial Ports Driver has some added features over top the one I posted last week. - Bi-Directional locking now works. I don't know why I was so silly to turn off the interrupts when a callout was completed, and then to expect a DCD to wake up the sleeping getty. - ANYP and !ANYP now fit the BSD rather than the V7 standard for handling, and thus match up to the NeXTSTEP world far better. - Added the ability to support up to four Instances of the driver (If you change NTTY to 1, and NINSTANCE to 10, you will run out of interrupts :-) - Some performance improvements were added for multiplexed cards. - Added untested 82510 support to go along with the 16450 and 16550 support. - New and more subtle bugs added to confound my existence on this earth ;-/ I have *one* pesky bug with the handling of the DigiBoard Multiplexed serial card when I run instances of a COM1, COM2 and a DigiBoard Driver, the DigiBoard *acts* like interrupts are ignored at times, solved currently by deleting the Multiplexor address (thus the Interrupt routine then polls all the ports for every interrupt, rather than selectively by checking the Multiplexor port). Since *no* one appears to have this card and provide me with bug reports, I doubt this will affect many. I am looking for a soul to carry the ball and test the driver with the AST standard multiplexed cards, I have code that *may* work by compiling -DAST. The addition of the ability to handle multiple instances of the driver will now allow people to replace the SerialPorts driver completely if one wants 19200 and 38400 and fixed flow control support. In one week of testing, not *once* has the machine crashed at 38400 Baud to the modem. I still dislaim any damages that may result from using this Beta version of the driver. Any Bug reports, fixes are gladly accepted at mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org or mark@adec23.UUCP) Enjoy, Ciao -- Mark ---- Cut Here and feed the following to sh ---- #!/bin/sh # This is a shell archive, produced by shar 3.49. # To extract the files from this archive, save it to a file, remove # everything above the "!/bin/sh" line above, and type "sh file_name". # # made 01/17/1994 07:14 UTC by mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca # Source directory /User/mark/src/serial # # existing files will NOT be overwritten unless -c is specified # # This shar contains: # length mode name # ------ ---------- ------------------------------------------ # 44680 -rw-r----- V1.1.tar.gz # # ============= V1.1.tar.gz ============== if test -f 'V1.1.tar.gz' -a X"$1" != X"-c"; then echo 'x - skipping V1.1.tar.gz (File already exists)' else echo 'x - extracting V1.1.tar.gz (Binary)' sed 's/^X//' << 'SHAR_EOF' | uudecode && begin 600 V1.1.tar.gz M'XL("&LZ.BT``U8Q+C$N=&%R`.P\VW(CQW5(4E:"J8J32N7!#W[HHIR(9$`` M@QNY2\4V2&)W(9,`36)E*Z**:LST`"W.!9H+26BU/Y)/2#XA^1'Y.1^2<T[W MW`#LKBK>I2ME3DG+05].GSZW/I<&SI+[1N4#/XRQ_6Z7X5^SVZ2_C*5_]0?6 M[9J]3KO3,MOPN=/MM"KL0^/U^%0J9\#_$^'PQ(WK,9^ZX@.L`0SM=3IOY'^G MW3(U_YM=L[V/XM)J[3_R_R&>K8F,7;'%_I55JUL@#.Q2A)*[6X?&UN<BC&3@ MZSZSWL3&DU#>BI"-N*<FX1QL?\8]Z2[UV!S&T(]B[EOI`@3B/(CBO=.`V[H1 M/]/'0\/8.@TL'NM5MRZ742P\=L0C,0UX:*]"5/"&%[]EI^)6N!&U/:&VQIB= M!V&LFIKWIMG<PW_W&?Y[0.\.OK>HO47M+6IO47N;VMO4WJ;V-K5WJ+U#[1UJ M[U![E]J[BD9G?78\Y[Z?HH2-9\(+PB4[XXN\[7/N2INMXL_:K,.ZK,?VF=ED MILG,%@.K:'9`>XA&N#%V'"1^3!,.H+&Q"U1*;';!8Q']BNTVC*W+9+&@@9-+ M&O;%X'+KL%J%D7W79=@5L4B/F0-Q[W@HX,6WHSF_D?ZL!.0$^"G]`IR-8&P8 M%20QVX[CI;V[LP8!^GX,".FS;2M1\W%GYSR>,Q\D+F)))&SF!*&>A0M0;W.K M6@7`#5O<-F!QB^2,.MAP5.ZSBYWCEY-"KY44^Y!PI9E.&>SZ`-M9@:V&Y."I M7P\P5^9F,\UUE(N=JR@7^]91+H/=A/(*[#64[1SE5GFNR&:VUE$N=JZB7.Q; M1[D,=A/**[#74!8YRNT5X-G,]CK*Q<Y5E(M]ZRB7P6Y">07V&LI.CG*G/'>6 MS>RLHUSL7$6YV+>.<AGL)I178*^A/,M1[I;GSK.9W764BYVK*!?[UE$N@]V$ M\@KL-93G.<J]\ER9S>RMHUSL7$6YV+>.<AGL)I178*^A+'.4]\MSO\EF[J^C M7.Q<1;G8MXYR&>PFE%=@KZ'\#:$,3D#14T@=!>U`%)R+K?.+\?.+_ME3=#_@ M_;/!\>1I1"Z$38/WVO46.QE\/C@=GP\NGI[Q\*9^R=WE=TN?';T<GDZ>/NDT MFF;#;,,"?VJ'ZO_9@_[_&;\1CG1%?1$*[KW_&`!]_+?X_ZS5`Y^_VVEWX:75 MA7>SV>QV'OW_AWA.Q\?]T[/^;P;/AJ>#D^$%Z&,#?7#W!#W28"'"3#RBAE+' M&QD;I6DP)Q,A%^=>IX)D3/H7SP>3Z_[%\8M+&";;!SUC3_J6F]B"_6)[=?6= MQDK;CC$<74[ZIZ?7@]_WS\YI+?`>C<H_5HS*^1%(;/"-L.)*Y=L?0,XJ'U4N M!OV3LT&E\A__4ZG\?>6O*M'2H_]_]O-*Y47EIY4TV*C'.+52>0;CFI6_J2!F MU\'T&Z3)?T+;SP$^Z$;="GQ'SBJ5M._E3_X"UJY2GP91^>L_5"J_@+:Z+<-Z M+!T'VO[]!US_HXK#HWHT!WQ^P#$_J4R"^DD`_=Y1A?907./7GU4J/ZO\';9= MAT!\2Z^0_%>E\OU?_K1R3..2D`*DZ/WPOZC_[P?B^O..^-_LM#HJ_F^:;;/3 MQ>&M7O=1_Q_B^=CXF#T7O@"A@LAJNF3Q7+"1^/V$G2O58D>)=&T1U@T<.AI/ M!D_928`OS()H<29@AHP8R@_;VUN=Q3PN_1C^CYB,%8AS"!`YQ'V!PY9!$C(K MB>+`D]\IJ680_)&Q86!'7$!I[7`"$!"D%MI!HZF#;4\#\$F"!0+B[DZM-([= M25@T-3VP2P_1,4;],[)?R;UA:-_C\\'%Y7`\@E:S;AJG_='SE_WG.&C@SUP9 MS0UE_:XO!I?CEQ?'`S1L0]\)ZF'L,+*=L!G`IQ[%(<31D6$\/QT?K4PHY=P, M8S(>GUXJ/(JJS\KFRC#&DQ>`W<7Q9='FII3)][I.',-8,?(C<1]OLO%\L3`* MAGV:^#;`\:`_-<4%`*=R&O)PV0!`TA)1.N+9:?\Y8KAGL;V([7F8_C74WL_& M)P@6_`'#.'HY.CD=@&6?#$::XLH4&D9^2*SSW\C/CY6C(S\U-LW/2;'>:8N% M\&WA6Q)V\:?6R8=\ROY?2J+WN\:[_#]SOXW^7ZO;,\U]TT3_K]5^S/\_R/-6 M9VS5J\LT*)WT1BN2>8HY#&5)"D!(RC[Z`_I:_U#9)(-/OT=_Z&\KVN[67>UO M_?</E4?_[SWZ?R7Z?H!JX(^N_[6[^^W]'M5_]GN/^O\0SSK_4U?F_:WQ#O^_ MUVZ;!?YWT?[O[S_Z_P_RO+H"5C>ON!_)5U=.X,?QU+V"!B>ZDU'$7@CW5L32 MXH=7CGGE>`'X]#X;SUTG.GQM7"TXF/V[_>9!4[_/>P=->/=X.'/-EGX+Z6W! 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Message-ID: <CJryB2.B4A@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University References: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 12:49:49 GMT In article <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Jon F. Rosen writes > > NeXTSTEP, IMHO, is for software development (custom applications) > > at this moment in time. > > You're entitled to your HO. I've been using NS purely to run > shrinkwrap apps for 3 years now, and have been very happy with it. > You'll have to drag me kicking and screaming to get me to use a > Windows box. Ditto, I'd sooner die!
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dec S3-928 Date: 17 Jan 1994 12:59:58 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <2he24e$j5e@email.tuwien.ac.at> I own an S3-928 produced by DEC. I want to use it with a resolution of 1280*1024*16bit, but that works only for 60Hz. Now I have discovered the source for the device driver in /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/S3. I think, with enough reading it should be possible to add 1132*768*16bit@72Hz to the available resolutions. Hope still remains that the card could handle even 1280*1024*16@72Hz. Could somebody tell me a good reason, why Next hasn't implemented these resolutions (e.g. because it simply does not work)? -- == Andreas == Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: V1.1 Beta of Serial Port Driver Message-ID: <1994Jan17.150047.9951@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <CJrJpo.1q3@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 15:00:47 GMT Where can one ftp this driver?? -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white or what? Date: 17 Jan 1994 14:45:17 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2he89t$7e8@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <CJryB2.B4A@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> I just noticed a shortcoming in the colloquial NeXT terminology. Black is old NeXT hardware. White is Intel-based PCish hardware. So what color do we use for Geckos? Sparcs? The world isn't black and white anymore ... mark
From: colo@tanuki.twics.co.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.1 and Adaptec 1542CF Date: 17 Jan 1994 08:03:50 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <00978B15.9836A080.3802@tanuki.twics.co.jp> Well, I have my answer (and, ashamed to say, it was a NextAnswer): This combination doesn't work, but the 1542CF is supported in NS/FIP 3.2. Thanks to responders. What I need to know now is, can I take the driver from 3.2 and use it in 3.1, assuming I get 3.1 installed with a borrowed card. I have only the evaluation kit and have not yet had a chance to evaluate it. Any reason why a 3.2 driver won't work in 3.1? Can anyone send me the 3.2 Adaptec driver? (Don't send, just let me know if you can). Thanks all. Again, please reply by e-mail if possible. colo@twics.co.jp
From: Mark G. Tacchi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black box paint color Date: 11 Jan 1994 18:37:32 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2gurld$8as@rosie.next.com> References: <CJFMnE.GKA@boi.hp.com> In article <CJFMnE.GKA@boi.hp.com> choyt@boi.hp.com (Craig Hoyt) writes: > > I am looking for a spray paint to match the original black > box so I can spray paint a couple of accessories to match > the cube. If anyone knows a company and color name that > matches, I would appreciate a response. > I think this might be in the FAQ, but here goes: Sprayon Paint Omni-Packblend 4Next-Black (icon black) LAV-16 25216 Sprayon Products is a division of Sherman-Williams, and has offices in Bedford, Ohio and Anahiem, California. Sprayon will only sell direct to distributors, but has a toll-free customer service number (1-800-777-2966) you can call to find the distributor nearest you. (I haven't verified this number) -Mark -- Mark G. Tacchi MTacchi@NeXT.COM NeXT Computer, Inc. (NeXT Mail Welcome) "My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer."
From: paulk@mindvox.phantom.com (Paul Kerrios) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EISA SCSI Cards Date: Mon, 17 Jan 94 12:03:32 EST Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Distribution: world Message-ID: <Lw4agc2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: paulk@mindvox I'm very unfamiliar with the world of PC hardware. What is the best SCSI card available that is supported by NeXTSTEP, makes use of an EISA bus and works if possible works with SCSI-2? I have heard something called DPD or DPT would fit this description, can anyone give me the basic difference in the models, or indeed, anything to suggest that might be better? //=======================================\\ Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======//
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dec S3-928 Date: 17 Jan 1994 18:37:19 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Distribution: world Message-ID: <BWH.94Jan17133719@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2he24e$j5e@email.tuwien.ac.at> In-reply-to: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at's message of 17 Jan 1994 12:59:58 GMT Can the DEC card (and your monitor) HANDLE 1280x1024x16-bitx72Hz?! This seems like it would just about destroy the bandwidth of any monitor or video card out there -- isn't that going to be approaching something like well over 150MHz? Brian -- -------------- Brian Hook "Computer graphics: the only field in bwh@cis.ufl.edu computer science where if it looks right, then it IS right." -- paraphrase
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Message-ID: <1994Jan17.192208.26146@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis References: <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 19:22:08 GMT In article <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@leland.stanford.edu writes: [stuff skipped] >already have it. TeX comes free; its very powerful, but not exactly >a joy to use. > You obviously haven't read "the Joy of TeX" by Spivak! Some of us find TeX a REAL joy. [more stuff skipped] >-- >- >Stefano Pagiola >Food Research Institute, Stanford University >spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) >spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) Don Petcher
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Harddrive recommendations? Date: 17 Jan 1994 20:11:14 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2herd2$bo@steffi.demon.co.uk> I'm looking at buying an external 1GIG drive for my slab and was wondering if anybody had any recommendations on particular makes and models to go for. What are the things to look out for (today) in a good quality drive? Signed: a software guy :-) -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "Nothing" Charade, 1963 robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller) Subject: Logitech Cyberman Driver? Message-ID: <CJsMry.GFE@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 21:38:22 GMT Can anybody comment on a possible driver for the Logitech CYBERMAN pointing device, that would either work on black or white hardware and: - act as a plain mouse - work with 3D functionality for programs with 3DKit features. Thanks -Florian
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable? Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 17 Jan 1994 22:27:16 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Distribution: na Message-ID: <2hf3c5$evg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <1994Jan17.061413.14935@seas.smu.edu> David Leon (dleon@seas.smu.edu) wrote: : I need to move about 2.4 gigs of data between Mac and NeXT (black). Then : I just need to store it. I am aware that NeXT can read Mac formatted hard : drives. Anyway, I figured that the best idea would be a removable medium. : So far the two most logical solutions are the 128 3.5" MO drives and the : Bournelli 105 meg removable hard drives. I think the Bournelli has faster : access time, but the optical media is supposedly much cheaper and last : longer. So, which of the two is the better product? Where are the best : places to find good pricing on either? I'm a grad student if any place : offers discounts (the school doesnt carry either). I'd recommend the Bernoulli *150* MB removables. You can order one via mail order for <$500 (check out the magazine Computer Shopper). 128 MO drives are a few hundred more than the Bernoulli, and are significantly slower. However, MO media is cheaper by a factor of 2. BTW, have you thought about a DAT to store 2.4GB of data? -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: JAWS video Message-ID: <1994Jan17.223134.3533@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <CJB6AL.L7p@well.sf.ca.us> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 22:31:34 GMT I saw an ad in the Houston paper over Christmas offering DGX's for US$1,995.To order, call the Dell Company Store. They were ``reconditioned''. I also don't recall what the config was... Seemed like a kick-ass deal... -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Message-ID: <1994Jan17.230947.27980@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis References: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <2hcja2$pbp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2hdp32$ru9@inxs.concert.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 23:09:47 GMT Funny thing, as I follow this thread. My advice would be: buy white. It is the future. You can jump back and forth between NS and Windows all the advantages - - the best of both worlds. (Well, it is actually hard to convince me that windows would be a part of any "best" world.) But when I was in the position 8 months ago, having to decide whether to buy one of the last of a dying breed, or to look toward the future, I bought black. I am not so sure I wouldn't do the same now. Why? Just because it "feels right".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: Can the amount of VRAM in a #9GXE be upgraded? Message-ID: <1994Jan17.232239.25229@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Mon, 17 Jan 94 23:22:39 GMT I'm thinking of getting a #9GXE LB card; but: I'd like to spend as little as possible, and still get as much as possible (the eternal dilemma...). So: -- If i get a #9GXE Level 10 (1mb VRAM) for ~$280, will i be able to upgrade to 2mb VRAM later (would that then be a "level 11", or does that require different hardware)? the difference in price here is close to $100, and the money's tight, so please help me out here... thanx dan fineman@cs.washington.edu
From: ptok@void.caltech.edu (Phillip Tokumaru) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable? (how about 270MB?) Date: 18 Jan 1994 00:31:50 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hfalm$qld@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2hf3c5$evg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> You could try the just recently introduced 270MB Syquest drive. I've seen them advertized for around $600/drive and $100/cartridge. Reads/writes the old 105MB media too. Phillip Tokumaru tokumaru_p@caltech.edu
From: clarence@orion.cc.andrews.edu (Clarence L. Thomas IV) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon Date: 17 Jan 1994 19:43:11 -0500 Organization: Andrews University, Berrien Springs, MI, 49104 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hfbav$9h2@orion.cc.andrews.edu> The earthquake in Los Angeles, California, the flood in Europe, the seemingly unstoppable war in the former Yugoslavia, the devastating fires in Australia, the flood in the Midwest of the United States of America, the devastating fires near Los Angeles, California, the rapid and appalling increase in violence in cities, towns, villages all over the world, the famines, the diseases, the rapid decline of the family unit, and the destructive earthquake in India (in 1993) are signs that this world's history is coming to a climax. The human race has trampled on God's Constitution, as given in Exodus 20:1-17 (King James Version Bible), and Jesus is coming to set things right. These rapidly accelerating signs are an indication that Jesus is coming soon (Matthew 24). God's Holy Spirit is gradually withdrawing its protection from the earth and the devastating events you see are demonstrations of Satan's power. All those who are not guarded by God are in danger of forever losing eternal life. If you want to know what's about to happen, please study the books of Daniel and Revelation which are located in God's Word, the Bible. They are not sealed or closed books. They can and must be understood by all. Every word in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is true. The Bible and the Bible only must be your guide. When God's Law (the Constitution for the Universe) is consistently ignored, disregarded, changed, and questioned, He permits certain events to occur to wake us up. I would urge all, wherever you are and regardless of the circumstances, to directly call on Jesus and ask Him to intervene in your life. Jesus who created this planet and every living creature in it and on it, died on the cross, was raised from the dead by God the Father, and is now in Heaven interceding for you. Jesus is the only One who can rescue us from the slavery, misery, and death Satan is causing us. For reference I'm including God's Constitution as given in the King James Version Bible. Please note that when God says the seventh day, he means Sabbath (the 7th day of the week) not Sunday (1st day of the week). Commandment #1: Exodus 20:1-3 (KJV) And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Commandment #2: Exodus 20:4-6 (KJV) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Commandment #3: Exodus 20:7 (KJV) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Commandment #4: Exodus 20:8-11 (KJV) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Commandment #5: Exodus 20:12 (KJV) Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. Commandment #6: Exodus 20:13 (KJV) Thou shalt not kill. Commandment #7: Exodus 20:14 (KJV) Thou shalt not commit adultery. Commandment #8: Exodus 20:15 (KJV) Thou shalt not steal. Commandment #9: Exodus 20:16 (KJV) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Commandment #10: Exodus 20:17 (KJV) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. I also recommend that the following books be obtained and closely studied: The Great Controversy By Ellen G. White Review and Herald Publishing Association Hagerstown, MD 21740 The Desire of the Ages By Ellen G. White Review and Herald Publishing Association Hagerstown, MD 21740 Patriarchs and Prophets By Ellen G. White Review and Hearld Publishing Association Hagerstown, MD 21740 Daniel and the Revelation By Uriah Smith Review and Herald Publishing Association Hagerstown, MD 21740 ------- Clarence L. Thomas IV Phone: 616-471-6116 E-mail: thomas@redwood.cc.andrews.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: PIXEL MAGICIAN AND IMAGE AGENT--$149 TO HSD OWNERS Message-ID: <CJsBrv.4KJ@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 17:40:43 GMT ****LIMITED TIME OFFER**** HSD OFFERS PIXEL MAGICIAN AND IMAGE AGENT FREE WITH SCANNER SYSTEMS CURRENT SCANNER OWNERS CAN PURCHASE PIXEL MAG/IMAGE AGENT FOR $149 *****CALL 1 (800) 828-5522 TO ORDER***** HSD today announced a promotion to include a FREE copy of the single-user version of Bacchus Inc.'s award-winning Pixel Magician and Image Agent software with each scanner system purchased from HSD through February, 1994. Complete product info is at the end of this message. HSD also announced an exclusive offer for current owners of HSD and Umax scanners to purchase a single-user copy of Pixel Magician/Image Agent directly from HSD for the reduced price of $149 (retail $299) during the promotion. This price is only available for orders placed directly through HSD and not from Bacchus. In addition, during the promotion HSD is reducing the retail prices of all 24-bit color scanner systems it is currently offering. The new prices are listed below: Scanner Old Retail New Retail Bundled Software Umax UC 630 $1495 $1295 Pixel Mag/Image Agent Umax UC 840 $1695 $1495 Pixel Mag/Image Agent Umax UC 1260 $2495 $1995 Pixel Mag/Image Agent All scanners are shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Package which includes three powerful scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. 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Use the automated capabilities of the convert window to view, scale, rotate, quantize and convert an entire directory of image files with a single mouse click. Features: Mass image conversion, Image viewing, PostScript to Raster, Color Quantization, Error Diffusion Dithering, paletted formats, Precise scaling and rotating, variable aspect ratios and image resolutions, alpha channel support, image aliases, thumbnail views and flexible output options. Image Agent: With Image Agent users can simply drag and drop non-native image files directly into NEXTSTEP applications, such as Diagram! 2, Concurrence, Pages, TIFFany II, Wetpaint, Create, and have the images instantly appear. Image Agent transparently performs the image conversion as if it were part of the actual application in use. Supported image formats include: TIFF, GIF, PS, EPS, TARGA, PICT, MacPaint, PCX, DCX, Windows BMP, MTV, IFF/ILBM, Sun Raster, JPEG (JFIF), XWD, XBM and others. -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc.
From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 18 Jan 1994 01:14:12 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2hfd54$p8r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <2hcja2$pbp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2hdp32$ru9@inxs.concert.net> <1994Jan17.230947.27980@wuphys.wustl.edu> I bought black (an '030 cube) just because $850 US was damn cheap for a student's home machine. Of course I sit in front of a NeXTdimension machine every day so I get a bit sad and sorry when I go home but at least I have a crisp monitor. :) ============================================================================= David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mcdonald@medsci.mbp.missouri.edu (Cayle C. Graumann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Internal Modems? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 20:14:17 Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <mcdonald.2.00143D93@medsci.mbp.missouri.edu> Dear Experts, After looking at FAQs and getting the most recent version of the Hardware Compatibility List and not seeing any reference at all to Internal modems, I have decided to throw the question out to the world at large. Can NSFIP use a 14.4 bps INTERNAL fax/data modem? How about if one of the serial ports on the motherboard is disabled and the modem is set to what is known as COM2 in the DOS world? Right now the modem is completely recognizable as a 16550a UART on COM2 without the use of device drivers or such (under DOS of course). Any thoughts? Thanks, Cayle C. Graumann, c/o mcdonald@medsci.mbp.missouri.edu
From: rlion@access.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 17 Jan 1994 21:32:41 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <2hfho9$g9a@access.digex.net> References: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <2hcja2$pbp@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2hdp32$ru9@inxs.concert.net> <1994Jan17.230947.27980@wuphys.wustl.edu> i agree totally, i had to make the choice too, i bought black. i'm damn happy with my choice stil. the only reason to buiy white in my cook, is that it's faster and in color, but there's just this rad feel to have this besat on my desk :) -- Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) /\ Rebellion Systems \/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
From: icardena@localhost (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTdimension...What is it? Date: 18 Jan 1994 02:54:54 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I have only recently been introduced to NeXT computers (Aug '93) and have heard several references to a "NeXTdimension board" but I have not been able to discover what it is/does. What are the advantages of such a board and what does it provide? Thanx. -Ian -- *x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x* X Ian P.Cardenas X Love- Floats like a flower petal, X CS Major at UIUC X stings like a cattleprod X Mudaholic X X icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: Re: Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon Message-ID: <1994Jan18.044539.5014@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle References: <2hfbav$9h2@orion.cc.andrews.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 94 04:45:39 GMT >------- >Clarence L. Thomas IV >Phone: 616-471-6116 >E-mail: thomas@redwood.cc.andrews.edu this is a joke, right?
From: adorazio@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Dorazio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon Date: 18 Jan 1994 05:41:18 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2hfspu$r86@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2hfbav$9h2@orion.cc.andrews.edu> <1994Jan18.044539.5014@beaver.cs. Absolutely not! Jesus is coming soon.. in fact, he's already here, and his name is Steve Jobs! Oh, sorry, he just THINKS he is! :) Seriously, though... td3
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) Subject: Drivers for Weitek9000? Message-ID: <1994Jan18.054756.28919@mail.vitech.fi> Organization: Vaasa Institute of Technology Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 05:47:56 GMT Is there NeXT Step drivers for Weitek 9000 chips? (Diamond-Viper-PCI) Thanx in advance. -Jani Miettinen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: How to boot cube from external disk not lowest SCSI ID? Message-ID: <3M6KBQ3H@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2hcm2p$nh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 08:25:31 GMT Dan Pritts (danno@css.itd.umich.edu) wrote: > I was once told by a NeXT support person to use bsd(1,0,0) -rootdev=sd1a bsd(1,0,0) rootdev=sd1a ----------^^------------ Before you do it, change the root entry in /etc/fstab on the external disk from /dev/sd0a to /dev/sd1a. Otherwise your internal disk will be remounted as root during boot :-) Regards, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jswain@piglet.otago.ac.nz (Jason Swain) Subject: PCI SCSI and Video Message-ID: <CJtHtu.6xw@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: Computer Graphics Lab, University of Otago Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 08:49:05 GMT I'm about to get a new NEXTSTEP intel machine and I've got a couple of questions. First, does anyone know if the NCR93C110 PCI SCSI chip is supported in 3.2? This is on the motherboard I would like to get. My second question is about video. What PCI video cards are supported by NEXTSTEP? I would like one that does 1120 x 832 or close to in colour. I would also like it to be as cheap as possible? Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Jason Swain jswain@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: Anyone got an informed opinion??? NS/I recommendation needed. Message-ID: <CJsnoo.EDu@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 Distribution: comp.sys.next.advocacy, comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 21:58:00 GMT I have an professional associate who needs to deploy a white box which will handle graphics (scanned images) well. I am an all black box shop, so haven't needed to *be at one* with the nitty-gritty details of what intel manufacturer/configuration works best for graphics. I thought this would be a direct line to the best information. Thanks for your help!! rm@califhistsoc.org
Control: cancel <2hfbav$9h2@orion.cc.andrews.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: clarence@orion.cc.andrews.edu Subject: cmsg cancel <2hfbav$9h2@orion.cc.andrews.edu> Message-ID: <cancel$758899258@aber.ac.uk> Sender: news@aber.ac.uk (USENET news service) Organization: UseNet Cabal (West Wales Cadre) Active Service Unit Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 13:20:58 GMT Autocancel of: "Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon"
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What the hell is wrong with this country? Date: 18 Jan 1994 14:50:13 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer equipment in this country. First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in equiring about pricing for a particular piece of equipment and then they say, they cannot sell to you so they give you a distributors name. Then you ring up the distributor and they tell you they don't stock that model. (Why the f*ck did the manufucturer direct me here in the first place?) Then they put you onto somebody else and when you finally get to speak to somebody they don't have the information you want. Hell, I just want pricing on DSP 3000 series drives, surely it can't be that difficult. But this is a common occurence in this country. Here I am about to drop 1K on a piece of computer equipment and they're already treating me like a second class citizen. Well I don't usually hang around when I want something so when people do this they usually lose my business and I go elsewhere. Unfortunately, in this country it's difficult to go elsewhere since most people are the same. This is in direct contrast with my experiences in America. Over there they just don't f*ck you around period. I think it's called knowing how to sell or something like that. NOTE: I'm not talking about crappy PC equipment that anybody can find in a shop on Tottenham Court Road. I'm talking about obtaining good quality equipment and paying for the privilidge (it's seems it is a priviledge over here) If anybody knows of any crowd who stocks good quality (DEC,HP) 1GIG harddrives and wants to sell them please get in touch. -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "Nothing" Charade, 1963 robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski) Subject: Re: How do you mount a dos partition on a 2nd drive? Message-ID: <CJsEJ6.Fz@rkt.in-berlin.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: root@rkt.in-berlin.de (Operator) Organization: Home in Berlin References: <1994Jan17.065345.879@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 18:40:18 GMT Lucifer Sam (fineman@cs.washington.edu) wrote: : I've got a 2nd IDE disk set up in my white NS system; I used fdisk to : partition it, for DOS & NS. Everything initialized & mounted just : fine for the NS partition, but the dos partition doesn't mount on : login. I have a small dos partition on the root disk, and that : automagically mounts on login. The 2nd partition on the 2nd disk is : formatted & all that. : I'm suspecting that i'll have to stick a line in my /etc/fstab file, : but i'm not sure what; any help out there? try: /usr/etc/mount -t dos /dev/rhd1h /mount_point in a terminal window. put: /dev/rhd1h "/mount_point" dos rw 1 2 in /etc/fstab. Rene -- ____________________________________________________________________ Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> NeXTMail accepted.
From: rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: It works!! Dell XPS P60 & PCI #9 Date: 18 Jan 1994 18:00:27 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <2hh83r$ba@news.bu.edu> I works!!!!! I just got my Dell dimension XPS P60 (pentium) with a pci #9 video card (with 3MB vram) and successfully loaded NeXTstep for intel. I wasn't sure about the pci #9 video card but it works fine in both 1024x768 16bit color @72Mhz and at 2048x1024 8bit greyscale @70Mhz using the #9 driver on the NeXTstep CD. I am using the Nec Multisync 5FGP monitor. I purchased an Adaptec 1540 scsi card and an Apple PC Multimedia kit in addition to the above items. The Apple Multimedia kit was a little pricy $650 at CompUSA, but I feel it is worth it. The kit includes a Mediavision pro audio spectrum 16 sound card, an internal double speed scsi cd rom drive (apple 300i [mechanism is Sony CDU-8003]), Apple powered speakers, Comptons multimedia encyclopedia, Quicktime for windows, Mediavision sound software, apple multimedia cd, coupon for 1-3 more cds from a specified list. The cd is really nice: it supports multisession Photo CD, it works with the NeXTstep cd player when you insert a audio cd, it is double speed, works with NeXTstep, and it is internal. The kit comes with the necessary cables but assumes you are going to hook up the cd to the sound card. All I did was hook the scsi cable to the adaptec controller instead, and NeXTstep loaded without a flaw. (I did have to change the sound cards DMA and IRQ to avoid conflict with the Adaptec card -- not really that hard) One thing I do need to get however is a cd driver from Adaptec, as the drivers included with the kit assume you connected the cd drive to the sound card. NeXTstep recognizes the drive but DOS does not. This should be corrected when I get the necessary drivers from Adaptec. This setup is really nice. I previously owned a NeXTstation Turbo Color and the dell machine feels very close. The video is very close, (maybe slightly slower on window dragging but really not much of a difference) The dell machine is faster but I haven't run any benchmarks. I just loaded NeXTstep yesterday. The P60 pentium is supposedly more than 2 times as fast as the motorolla 68040 in the Turbo color, but as we all know many factors influence the overall speed of a machine. Hopefully NeXTWorld will benchmark the machine soon. I haven't had much luck running SoftPC but it is still too early to tell. I have only played with it a little, and I am only really interested in running pc games with it. Overall I am extremely pleased with this setup and except for the lower resolution 1024x768, change in color (black to white) increase in speed, ability to play great games, expansion potential, this machine is very close to the NeXTstation Turbo Color. It also cost me less than my NeXT did. If you want to know any specifics I will be glad to help. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be moving from black to white. School just started and I am taking a full load as well as teaching so it might take me a while to respond. Later Ray Gasser rayg@cs.bu.edu NeXTmail not welcomed (my White NeXT is at home and I don't have a modem yet)
From: alf@drdhh.hanse.de (Ulf Zimmermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2740 driver for NSFIP ? Date: 18 Jan 1994 04:43:32 +0100 Organization: Digital Island Message-ID: <alf.758864480@drdhh> Hi ! Does anyone have any pointer to some Adaptec 2740 driver for NeXT/Intel ? btw: Has someone already played around with P9000 cards under NSFIP ? Please reply to audio@netmbx.netmbx.de since I usually do not use this account. Thanks a lot in advance, Alf
From: french@sooth.dec.com (Larry French) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 68040 Cube and Laser Printer For Sale Date: 18 Jan 1994 19:23:41 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Message-ID: <2hhcvt$lu@usenet.pa.dec.com> I wish to sell my 68040 NeXT cube, 400 dpi laser printer and Dove FAX modem. The system is configured as follows: o Original NeXT Cube with 68040 motherboard installed. o NeXT 400 dpi laser printer. o Optical disk drive. o NeXT megapixel monochrome monitor. o 300MB hard disk drive. o 2400 baud Dove FAX modem. o 8MB RAM. I am asking $2600 for the entire setup or best offer. To contact me please call (206) 882-2087 or send email. Larry French
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Toshiba MK538FB with 1024Bytes/sector? Experience wanted, please Message-ID: <CJtJHF.ILw@belly.in-berlin.de> Keywords: toshiba,1024 Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 09:24:50 GMT Hi! I'm using a Toshiba MK538FB (1.2GB) Harddisk on black HW and want to know if there's someone out there who is using this with 1024Bytes/sector. Any comments appreciated. Thanks. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: rlion@access.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTdimension...What is it? Date: 18 Jan 1994 14:41:21 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <2hhe11$pt0@access.digex.net> References: <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Ian Patrick Cardenas <icardena@localhost> wrote: > > I have only recently been introduced to NeXT computers (Aug '93) and >have heard several references to a "NeXTdimension board" but I have not been >able to discover what it is/does. What are the advantages of such a board and >what does it provide? Thanx. a nextdemension board provides superior color and a 21" monitor. (thems the basics) -- Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) /\ Rebellion Systems \/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
From: lampi@halcyon.com (Michael Lampi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where can I find the FAQ for this group? Date: 18 Jan 1994 10:51:12 -0800 Organization: MDL Corporation, Redmond, WA (206) 861-6700= Sender: news@nwfocus.wa.com Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2hhb30$9n@nwfocus.wa.com> Summary: I tried rtfm.mit.edu..... Subject: says it all. Thanks in advance! -- Michael Lampi lampi@mdlcorp.com MDL Corporation 15301 NE 90th Street, Redmond, WA 98052 (206) 861-6700 (206) 861-6767 FAX
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Word Perfect available ? Date: 18 Jan 1994 18:43:16 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2hhak4$5ik@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> > Wrong. WordPerfect is available for NS/I; it ships fat. And WriteUp > will soon be available. > > -- > - > Stefano Pagiola > Food Research Institute, Stanford University > spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) > spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) Is WordPerfect really available? -- Todd Takken
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Word Perfect available ? Date: 18 Jan 1994 18:53:31 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2hhb7b$5nc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2hhak4$5ik@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken writes > > Wrong. WordPerfect is available for NS/I; it ships fat. > > Is WordPerfect really available? Yes. You can probably get it from PC Connection 1-800-800-next (make sure they sell you the NeXTSTEP version and not the DOS or Windows version). -- - Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: johnm@bookstore.ubc.ca (john mccannel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Keyboard Freezes On NS3.2 Date: 18 Jan 1994 23:52:55 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <2hhson$m3a@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> 3.1 was working fine, so I thought I would try to upgradfe to 3.2. While trying to do a fresh install of 3.2 (from floppy) the install gets as far as the message: This is not an upgrade it is a complete installation from scratch. press 1 to proceed or 2 to quit (or similar wording). The keyboard is not accepting any input at this point. It did accept input for all questions up to this point. I tried a new keyboard and retried to install several times. No luck. So, after that I decided to just upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2 usin the upgrade.app. This went ok but now whem i boot up ang get to the login window, the keyboard is dead. Arrgghh!! Has anyone had any similar experiences? How do you boot into single user mode? (to at least allow me to clear passwords) oh ya, the configuration is: dx-50 chip on a sis chipset aha 1542c host adapter cirrus logic vl bus card (540x/542x) vl bus ide/multi io card Thanks, John Next cd rom drive (sony cd541)
From: Andrew Geweke <gewekean@studentg.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable? Date: 19 Jan 1994 00:21:12 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hhudo$k1b@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <1994Jan17.061413.14935@seas.smu.edu> <rmah-180194024005@rmah.dialup.access.net> In article <rmah-180194024005@rmah.dialup.access.net> Robert S. mah, rmah@panix.com writes: > Is the Mac ethernet ready? If so, network them together. Then FTP the > files to your Mac. Should only take a few hours to transfer. Er...I had thought about doing this, too, but a two-machine Ethernet connection is nowhere near as simple as a two-machine LocalTalk connection. Ethernet nominally requires a hub (very expensive, relative to the personal Mac user); however, Farallon offers a product called the EtherWave. You can get two EtherWaves ($230 list, $460 total) and a length of phone cable instead, but it's still a very expensive proposition. --- Andrew Geweke / gewekean@studentg.msu.edu / Computer Engineering --- "The story so far: "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? In-Reply-To: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk's message of 18 Jan 1994 14:50:13 -0000 Message-ID: <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 01:54:06 GMT > This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer > equipment in this country. > > First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your > company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you > get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. Along with the preferential treatment of supply side economics comes preferential treatment to maximize profits. To these kinds of businesses you are a worthless entity as an individual. These kinds of businesses even give more preferential treatment to some bigger customers over others depending on how much they suck up. This kind of business person is quick to say that it is only reasonable for them to do this. But it is not reasonable when they infringe on people's rights. Let us change the political correctness of this situation. Whether you are ordering for yourself or your company the next time a vendor asks for your company name try saying "You are not supposed to ask that question anymore." Then if they demand an answer say "You are being unreasonable, do you want us to take our business elsewhere?" or simply "You are being unreasonable!" if you don't have an elsewhere to go. For the most part we are the people who do the purchasing of computer wares and if we want to we can put a stop to such preferential treatment. Bill Vrotney -- Bill Vrotney BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: chesnutt@adobe.com (Stan Chesnutt) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? Message-ID: <1994Jan19.023923.5851@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Tuesday Weld Fan Club References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 02:39:23 GMT In article <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) writes: > >> This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer >> equipment in this country. >> >> First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your >> company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you >> get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in > >My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. Along >with the preferential treatment of supply side economics comes preferential >treatment to maximize profits. To these kinds of businesses you are a >worthless entity as an individual. These kinds of businesses even give more >preferential treatment to some bigger customers over others depending on how >much they suck up. This kind of business person is quick to say that it is >only reasonable for them to do this. But it is not reasonable when they >infringe on people's rights. > Are you serious? I didn't see any smilies .... Blame poor customer service on the Reagan administration? That's stretching it quite a bit. Indict supply-side economics? Are you flame-baiting? When I read the original post, I didn't think to blame an ex-President. I thought a minute, and decided that the disk-drive manufacturer (this was a disk drive, right?) has probably needed to cut their prices to a razor-thin profit margin to keep afloat in today's cutthroat disk-drive market. Nowadays, disk drives are a commodity, and one feature of commodity markets is that you have to pay extra, in some cases a LOT extra for service. That is unfortunately the reality of the disk-drive (and, small-computer) market arena. I say "unfortunately" because some people see it an advantage that they can get state-of-the-art equipment for rock-bottom prices. I certainly do. And I'm not going to blame Reaganomics for low-prices, low-service in the computer industry any more than I'm going to blame Carternomics for high prices at the gasoline (benzin, petrol) pump. Both attributions would be unfair and just plain wrong. I elided the later paragraph calling for a "politically-correct" approach. I felt it better not to comment... -- --------------------------------------------------------- "I can't go out and save every undercapitalized entrepreneur in America." -- Hillary Clinton, when asked about the impact of her health care "plan" on small business (Wall Street Journal, 9/24/93, pg A10, col. 3)
From: denis@quartz.tucson.az.us (denis norton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTdimension...What is it? Date: 19 Jan 1994 02:26:58 GMT Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group Message-ID: <2hi5pj$dmm@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> References: <2hhe11$pt0@access.digex.net> > a nextdemension board provides superior color and a 21" monitor. and.......... video interface! > (thems the basics) -- denis norton denis@quartz.tucson.az.us
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Let's keep politics out of our newsgroups!!! Date: 19 Jan 1994 02:50:13 GMT Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX Message-ID: <2hi755$5j2@inxs.concert.net> Assuming Bill is a user of NeXTSTEP and that's why he's reading and posting to the C.S.N.* newsgroups...let's try to keep politics out of the newsgroups. I find it very funny how some always try to blame what's wrong with things on Ronald Reagan and his administration. It's too easy to look at what Reagan accomplished during his eight years (when interest rates dropped from the low 20% range to the single digits [or did we forget Jimmy Carter]). I don't ever recall either Reagan or Bush being investigated being in- vestigated by a special prosecutor for Obstruction of Justice [Vincent Foster] or one of Reagan/Bush's Attorneys General being responsible for the largest death count in an FBI (or any other criminal justice assault). SOOOOOO. The next time someone gets put on hold when calling a business, try not to blame it on Ronald Reagan - blame it on Clinton because his new taxes are preventing companies from hiring either more employees to answer the phones or preventing companies from being able to purchase new phone systems. Whew! Sorry, I got carried away! Nothing personal, Bill. -- Advanced Business Systems A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-8553 [Voice] 19 Joci Court (919) 682-1126 [Fax] Durham, North Carolina 27704 ****EFFECTIVE 10 JANUARY 1994, PLEASE SEND EMAIL TO: info@absystems.com****
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Parallel port messed up under PNI 1.6 on NS/I 3.2 Date: 19 Jan 1994 03:03:25 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2hi7tt$h85@news.service.uci.edu> Intel NS 3.2 Parallel port connected to HP IIIP Postscript Printer. Printer works well under any app, say TeXView, or directe lpr. Problem 1: once PNI 1.6 is loaded, if I click PRINT say under TeXView, it seems to take longer to get the print panel. Problem 2: If I terminate PNI 1.6 in any way (say, by using pnistat, or kill, or due to modem drop DTR), then when I click PRINT under TeXView or any other app, the spinning disk appears on the screen but the print panel never comes up. In fact, I can not even power off the machine if I do select logout and power-off, the app is still running with the spinning disk trying to get the print panel(of course I could just shut the power). I cannot print anything by lpr either. My print job just stays in the queue. Tryed various things, such as reset the printer, switch on and off the printer, clear the print queue, did not work. I had to use Process Moniter to kill TeXview, and then reboot the machine, then everything is fine again until you start and terminate PNI. PNI uses one serial port, how could it mess up the parallel port? I have an internal modem set to serial port 2, PNI set up to use cufb. Did anybody have the same problem? Any help or info is well come. Thank you. Feng Liu UC, Irvine
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: david@tcs01.demon.co.uk (David James) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> Organization: Private Internet Node Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 03:12:18 +0000 Message-ID: <758949138snz@tcs01.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM "Bill Vrotney" writes: > >> This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer >> equipment in this country. >> >> First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your >> company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you >> get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in > >My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. The original poster was talking about buying computer equipment in the UK. Along comes an American reply blaming the Reagan administration! The original poster explicitly said that his experiences in America were different (and better). Bizarre. I think we should keep demon.local *local* -- David James david@tcs01.demon.co.uk
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Parallel port messed up under PNI 1.6 on NS/I 3.2 Date: 19 Jan 1994 04:02:36 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2hibcs$929@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2hi7tt$h85@news.service.uci.edu> In article <2hi7tt$h85@news.service.uci.edu>, Feng Liu <feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu> wrote: >Intel NS 3.2 >Parallel port connected to HP IIIP Postscript Printer. >Printer works well under any app, say TeXView, or directe lpr. > >Problem 1: > once PNI 1.6 is loaded, if I click PRINT say under TeXView, > it seems to take longer to get the print panel. I have seen this as well. I don't know exactly what the problem is, but it appears the machine is sending packets out across the modem link. I really don't understand this. My printer is designated as private. I've been looking at the documentation involving Netinfo, thinking perhaps that something is not optimally configured for a slip link. I have not recieved any replies to a posting on the same question a week ago. >Problem 2: > If I terminate PNI 1.6 in any way (say, by using pnistat, or kill, > or due to modem drop DTR), then when I click PRINT under TeXView > or any other app, the spinning disk appears on the screen > but the print panel > never comes up. In fact, I can not even power off the machine [misc deleted] >PNI uses one serial port, how could it mess up the parallel port? >I have an internal modem set to serial port 2, PNI set up to use cufb. > I don't think the parallel port itself is affected. Its the printer queue and Apps that interact with it are. What these Apps are sending over the modem link are the key to the mystery. I have not had the problem with shuting down PNI and then using an application or printer. It shuts down properly for me. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? Message-ID: <1994Jan19.030224.25377@gleap.sccsi.com> Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com Organization: GiantLeap Software References: <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 03:02:24 GMT Bill Vrotney writes > >> This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer >> equipment in this country. >> >> First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your >> company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you >> get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in > >My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. Along Bill, GET A CLUE! The original poster lives in England which was the subject of his post. He was praising the American system. Are you willing to give credit to Reagan/Bush for this (which seems reasonable since you seem to believe that the president somehow has control over the attitudes of each sales person)? -- Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com GiantLeap Software (713) 292-5853 or 363-9001 (Hou) (713) 363-9763 (fax)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adding IDE drive to SCSI System? Date: 18 Jan 1994 20:52:57 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2hhemp$fg@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Jan16.234009.25851@Princeton.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes: >I have a system that presently boots from a SCSI drive; I would like >to add an IDE drive as drive d: (i.e., not boot from the ide drive). >Do you know if this can be done? I an guessing that this will work if >I connect the ide drive in the usual manner, but identify it in the >PC's BIOS setup as the second drive... >Any thoughts? You just have to include the IDE driver for NeXTSTEP with Configure.app and attach the IDE drive. Declare the IDE drive as first drive in your BIOS. Anything you have to do now is to type "sd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd0a" at the prompt each time you want to boot NeXTSTEP. If you don't boot your system too often, this is no big deal. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which ATi REALLY WORX? Date: 18 Jan 1994 21:03:26 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2hhfae$h3@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2hdpdg$g61@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit nuggets@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Hentschke) writes: >my PAS16 works up to 44khz 16Bit mono but over 22khz 16bit stereo it >crashes (under FreeBSD: X11 changes sometimes the resolution or > crashes too. is this a fight between et4000 and pas16? > or is this my atapdec?) >PAS16: irq 12 drq 7 soundblasteremu: irq 5 drq 3. >1542B: default settings. The only reason for crashes is SCSI controller and PAS on an ISA board. The graphics adapter has nothing to do with it, as long it is _not_ an ATI GUP EISA. >can i solve this problem without changing my scsi-card ? >(btXXX emulates 1542, that can't be a solution. > dptXXX: no expieriences.) Changing your SCSI card won't help at all. I did not notice any differences concering sound crashes between Adaptec and DPT. The only thing that will help is getting an EISA board. >there should be a problem between 1542B and ati mach32 eisa. > (does this includes all ati's or have someone expieriences with > 1542b+atimach32isa or > 1542b+pas16+atimach32isa ?) ATI _ISA_ won't give you color!!! Color is subjected to EISA and VL graphics adapters. ATI EISA and Adaptec results in bad karma, so keep your hands off. The best is to get a EISA/VL mixboard, ATI GUP VL and keep your ISA SCSI controller. As long as your Adaptec and PAS card are plugged into EISA sockets, no sound crashes occur. Hope this helps, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 00:48:47 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <QhDAazy00iUyACv2EB@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2hhudo$k1b@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Jan-94 Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105m.. by Andrew Geweke@studentg.m > Er...I had thought about doing this, too, but a two-machine Ethernet > connection is nowhere near as simple as a two-machine LocalTalk > connection. Ethernet nominally requires a hub (very expensive, relative > to the personal Mac user) What? Try using "thin" ethernet (should cost you about $20; 2 terminators, 2 taps, and maybe 20 feet of cable.) Note that your mac needs to have the appropriate connector for thin ethernet. No hub required. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: jgs@hadron.merit.edu (John G. Scudder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Hub-less Ethernet (was: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable?) Date: 19 Jan 1994 07:10:22 GMT Organization: Merit Network, Ann Arbor, MI Message-ID: <2himcu$h0v@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <QhDAazy00iUyACv2EB@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <QhDAazy00iUyACv2EB@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Jan-94 Re: 128meg MO >drive vs 105m.. by Andrew Geweke@studentg.m >> Er...I had thought about doing this, too, but a two-machine Ethernet >> connection is nowhere near as simple as a two-machine LocalTalk >> connection. Ethernet nominally requires a hub (very expensive, relative >> to the personal Mac user) [...Charles makes the reasonable suggestion to use Thinnet...] Another option, cheaper still, is to use 10BaseT, but use a wire which has been wired "backwards" to connect the two machines. As I understand it, if the pins on one end are reversed, you can wire two (though no more than two) 10BaseT stations together to form a hubless network. I haven't tried this myself (yet). The initial poster's objection still holds for a three (or more) node network, but not for the two node case. (Using Thinnet would still work for a three node (or whatever-small-number node) network.) --John Scudder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Looking for Good or Bad experiences with 128MO's Message-ID: <CJtCCI.Lw3@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Keywords: 128 MO (experience) Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2h4nh7$vb7@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 06:50:41 GMT In article <2h4nh7$vb7@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (randal rencsok) writes: >Hello, > > Since I have been posting my PMO-650's for sale I have recieved many > messages asking for help with 128MO's. After about 6 months of > pretty bad news I have a first report of sucess with a 128 on > 'white' hardware. > > I was wondering if people could send me messages relating good > or bad experineces with any and all MO drives, especially the > 128's. If the trend I've seen is still present (actually regardless) > I will post a summary. I personally have had the PMO-650's running > for some time (but it took me hell and high water to get them > formatted and configured properly to run, no thanks to Pinnacle > Micro Devices and NEXT INC.). Include the Drive type, Brand name, > date purchased, seller, hardware your running on, and the price > you paid, and finally your experiences with the hardware and > the company (in terms of users support, and returns, or the like) > > Thanks, > Randy Rencsok > . I had absolutely no problem attaching, formatting, and using my PMO-650 on white hardware, under both NSFIP and DOS. It was a matter of plug it in and use it. I had a little more difficulty using the drive with my black hardware, but thanks to Dylan Kohler (dylan@angst.com), who supplied me with the appropriate disktab entry, I soon had that slight glitch sorted out. This is what he sent me: PINNACLEOHD-650:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#18643:nt#1:ns#31:ss#1024:rm#3600:\ :fp#160:bp#256:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#288339:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: Put this in /etc/disktab and your disks will initialize and mount without having to open a Terminal window. david -------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: NeXTdimension...What is it? Message-ID: <bchin.758943292@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2hhe11$pt0@access.digex.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 01:34:52 GMT rlion@access.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt) writes: >In article <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, >Ian Patrick Cardenas <icardena@localhost> wrote: >> >> I have only recently been introduced to NeXT computers (Aug '93) and >>have heard several references to a "NeXTdimension board" but I have not been >>able to discover what it is/does. What are the advantages of such a board and >>what does it provide? Thanx. >a nextdemension board provides superior color and a 21" monitor. Actually, most of the NeXT 17" and 21" monitors can be used on both color stations and dimensions systems. The only gotcha is that ADB turbo color workstations need the newer 17" trinitron that can handle the 72hz refresh rate. The NeXTdimension board is a NeXTbus board that can fit in a NeXTcube. The result is often labeled as a NeXTdimension system. The board is a 24 bit color display board with Super-VHS and composite video in and out. A display postscript accelerator in the form of an Intel i860 is on board to help speed up some operations. This is one of the only ways of adding color capabilites to a NeXTcube. Read the FAQ or older NeXT product literature for more information (or send me e-mail). -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable? Message-ID: <1994Jan19.083726.6152@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <QhDAazy00iUyACv2EB@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 08:37:26 GMT In article <QhDAazy00iUyACv2EB@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Jan-94 Re: 128meg MO >>drive vs 105m.. by Andrew Geweke@studentg.m >>> Er...I had thought about doing this, too, but a two-machine Ethernet >>> connection is nowhere near as simple as a two-machine LocalTalk >>> connection. Ethernet nominally requires a hub (very expensive, relative >>> to the personal Mac user) >> >>What? Try using "thin" ethernet (should cost you about $20; 2 >>terminators, 2 taps, and maybe 20 feet of cable.) Note that your mac >>needs to have the appropriate connector for thin ethernet. No hub >>required. >> Yea, this works great for me: I have a NeXTStation Color ethernetted to my Mac Centris 650. I needed to buy a $65 Asante "Friendly Net Thin Adapter" cause Apple boged on Ethernet ("Ethernet capable"!), but once I had that, it was just a matter of stringing a cable and terminating the T on my NeXT (the Asante is self terminating). Wicked easy, and now I can telnet and "Fetch" between them, no prob. I also installed Interprint so I can print from my Mac to the NeXT's Laserprinter, and that works great too. No hub required... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: demo@testppp.demon.co.uk (George Shaw) Subject: Re: Projecting NeXT screens References: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> <CJH1n1.IA6@walter.bellcore.com> Organization: Genesis Project Ltd Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 10:44:14 +0000 Message-ID: <737198662snz@testppp.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <CJH1n1.IA6@walter.bellcore.com> ddp@cc.bellcore.com "David D. Pascua" writes: > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Path: testppp.demon.co.uk!demon!bnr.co.uk!uknet!pipex!uunet!walter!wavesworld! > ddp > From: ddp@wavesworld.base.bellcore.com (David D. Pascua) > Subject: Projecting NeXT screens > Message-ID: <CJH1n1.IA6@walter.bellcore.com> > Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com > Nntp-Posting-Host: 128.96.127.47 > Reply-To: ddp@cc.bellcore.com (David D. Pascua) > Organization: Bellcore > References: <1994Jan11.141400.19798@cs.yale.edu> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 15:28:12 GMT > Lines: 17 > > > Hi all, > > Does anyone out there have any experiences projecting NeXT screens > (you know, for presentation purposes)? Does it matter whether we're > using a ColorStation or a Cube? > We have sucessfully used the standard Barco Video Projector with the Sun cables. The room had to be very dark to get the clear projection needed for the gray of the next workspace but if you play around with the colour pref's you get good results. I have also used the Sharp LCD projector for static graphics from with good effect. Hope this helps, if anyone is intrested in model No etc drop me a message and I'll look it up. -- George Shaw Genesis Project Ltd 10 Malone Road Belfast BT9 5BN +44-232-681919
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Message-ID: <1994Jan17.222045.1570@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <2hd3do$iup@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 22:20:45 GMT In article <2hd3do$iup@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > L. Anathea Brooks writes > > > Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, > > > while on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. > > > > Executor is MAB, and will emulate Mac/MSWord 4 and 5 under > > NS/FIP. > > Sure. But on an Intel box you're going to get better performance > from SoftPC than you would from Executor (and conversely on a > Motorola box). > > > >All in all, not a bad array of choices, current and upcoming, > > >high-end and low-end, cheap and expensive. > > > > Well, no, except that there are NO word processors at > > all at present for NS/FIP that I know about. Rather > > damning. If that doesn't change I won't stay with > > the OS, no matter what. > > Wrong. WordPerfect is available for NS/I; it ships fat. And WriteUp ----------^^^^^^^^^^^------------------^^^^ Could you confirm this!!! > will soon be available. > > -- > - > Stefano Pagiola > Food Research Institute, Stanford University > spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) > spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) Cheers --Fabien ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: NS31IP and HP MO Message-ID: <1994Jan17.214545.1262@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <zxmkx01.758318834@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 21:45:45 GMT In article <zxmkx01.758318834@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> zxmkx01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Kerger) writes: > hi everybody, > > i'am trying to make a hp mo run under ns31/ip. > for dos it seems to be a disk like others (512/sector) > but ns has no other idea for it than just to eject it ... > can anybody help? > thanks in advance > andreas > > -- > ------------------------------------------ > Andreas Kerger | Engelfriedshalde 22 | > 7400 Tuebingen | Germany | You definitely need to add an entry in /etc/disktab. Using /etc/disk /dev/rsdXa (X stand for the volume number) at the disk> prompt type label+return key, when it asks you print or write type w+return-key then re type label and now type print. Just send me the all of the print-out I will send and post a disktab entry. Cheers --Fabien ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: Recording directly from a cdplayer Message-ID: <1994Jan17.215918.1389@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <1994Jan11.153225.23095@info.ucl.ac.be> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 21:59:18 GMT > > In article <1994Jan11.153225.23095@info.ucl.ac.be> smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters) writes: > > > > Hi, > > I'm desperately trying to record directly from a CDplayer... > > This cabling should normally be efficient to record a song from a classical > CDplayer... But it failed. The problem seems to be with Record.app... > Any help would be very appreciated . > > > > > > Thank you very much ! > > > Eric Smeesters > Laboratoire de Telecommunications de l'UCL. > Belgium > You need an extra hardware like the AD64X box, because i think the DSP input need a clock to get the data in; ie you need to extract the clock from the numeric audio output from your CD player, and also the box will change the electric level 0.1 volts to the logic level required. Cheers --Fabien ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (benjamin bernhard) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? Message-ID: <CJvssM.GLI@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University References: <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <1994Jan19.030224.25377@gleap.sccsi.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 14:41:10 GMT The Wall Street Journal had an article discussing the UK's generally lousy service. It was their opinion that almost every form of service in the UK was poor or bad, especiallly the highly visible restaurant industry. The WSJ suggested that the rude service was the result of an unwillingness to complain and a "I'm not a servant" attitude held be service providers. I suggest that the original service provider make himself a serious pain in the ass. When I get bad service, I'm unbearable. In my professional capacity, I have prided myself on developing excellent client relations, I expect the same. I found it _very_ funny that some posters thought the US service record was poor. WE HAVE THE BEST SERVICE overall. Nobody comes close. The supposed explanations for our allegedly poor service were even funnier. -- __________________________________________________________________________ Ben Bernhard "Nothing that results from human progress 812/339-5304 (fax) is achieved with unanimous consent." bbernhar@cs.indiana.edu ---Christopher Columbus
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 19 Jan 1994 15:00:01 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2hjhth$id2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2hd3do$iup@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <1994Jan17.222045.1570@free.fdn.org> In article <1994Jan17.222045.1570@free.fdn.org>, Fabien Roy <fabien@free.fdn.org> wrote: >In article <2hd3do$iup@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu >(Stefano Pagiola) writes: >> L. Anathea Brooks writes >> > > Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, >> > > while on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. >> > >> > Executor is MAB, and will emulate Mac/MSWord 4 and 5 under >> > NS/FIP. >> >> Sure. But on an Intel box you're going to get better performance >> from SoftPC than you would from Executor (and conversely on a >> Motorola box). >> >> > >All in all, not a bad array of choices, current and upcoming, >> > >high-end and low-end, cheap and expensive. >> > >> > Well, no, except that there are NO word processors at >> > all at present for NS/FIP that I know about. Rather >> > damning. If that doesn't change I won't stay with >> > the OS, no matter what. >> >> Wrong. WordPerfect is available for NS/I; it ships fat. And WriteUp >----------^^^^^^^^^^^------------------^^^^ Could you confirm this!!! >> will soon be available. >> >> -- >> - >> Stefano Pagiola >> Food Research Institute, Stanford University >> spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) >> spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) > >Cheers >--Fabien >___________________________________________________________________ >Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org >NeXTmail OK I may be wrong, but I really think Executor is processor- independant, and will run as quickly with Intel as Next boxes. It's not as if Cliff Matthews made calls to the hardware when he wrote the code. Robert de Lucca .
From: hekermad@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep 3.2 Academic Bundle Date: 19 Jan 1994 15:27:23 GMT Organization: UNI Stuttgart Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hjjgr$lnl@news.belwue.de> I'm very interested in using Nextstep for Intel. But I'm not sure if my hardware is fast enough to use it. Can anyone tell me what's the minimal hardware configuration for using Nextstep on a pc ? My current configuration is CPU: 80486DX33 BUS: ISA RAM: 12 MB HD: 250 MB Quantum IDE 1014 MB Toshiba SCSI-II Video: ATI Graphics Ultra Controler: Adaptec 1542C AT Bus Controler Sound: Logitech Soundman It's also interesting how slow this configuration will work. I know that Nextstep is delivered on CD Rom, so i plan to buy a Toshiba XM4401. I'll be very happy if anyone can help me !! You can mail me at hekermad@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
From: mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Date: 19 Jan 1994 11:02:29 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> Dear NeXT enthusiasts, Here is some information I received from Kristopher Magnusson of Alpine Computing MicroAge(kris@alpine.com) I like the name/price/everything about this machine. It brings workstation performance down to PC prices. I think this will be _the_ box to own. truly awesome mark --- Mark LeScoezec TSI of NY, Inc. System Administrator (212)850-8135 ml@ny.psca.com 666 Third Ave NeXTmail okay NY, NY 10017 HP Gecko Champagne workstation at beer prices! It's been a long wait, but the world's most advanced RISC workstation is here! The HP 712 series, or Gecko, is a major advance in desktop workstation technology. Using the "bi-endian" PA7100LC as its main CPU, the Gecko can adapt to whatever operating system you choose. Onboard MPEG hardware compression/decompression will display your realtime news and video feeds smoothly and quickly. And with a starting price of $3995--including 15" color monitor, 16 MBs of RAM, Ethernet, and a 260 MB disk--advanced workstation technology is affordable to anyone! With the new Gecko, you can choose the level of performance that's appropriate, from the base 60 MHz model to the integer-tuned, number-crunching 80i. Here's a look at HP Gecko performance benchmarks. 712/60 712/80i ---------- ----------- SPECint92 58 84 SPECfp92 79 79 MPEG (640 x 480) 30 fps 30 fps The HP Gecko base configuration includes Desktop HP-UX, a slimmer version of HP's Unix that leaves you 100 MBs for your files. You also get CD-quality, 16-bit audio for clear, crisp playback of sound and music. You can choose from expansive 17" or 19" color monitors, or even an active-matrix color, flat panel display for Energy Star compliance. If you require higher storage capacity, choose from an available 525 MB or 1.0 GB SCSI disk. And you can decide on the amount of memory upgradeability that's right for you--choose from 16 MB up to 128 MBs of RAM! But the Gecko's revolutionary design includes more than mere blistering performance. With the introduction of the Gecko, HP proudly announces TeleShare--the ability to tie your Gecko into phone systems without expensive components. With TeleShare, you can incorporate voice technology into your applications today! TeleShare eliminates the need for costly external modems, with data capabilities built right in your desktop. The base configuration includes an RS-232C serial port, an AUI port, one SCSI-2 port, one Centronics port, X.25 and telephony ports, and two slots. HP 712/60 16 MBs DRAM 3879 260 MB SCSI disk Ethernet CD-quality audio and MPEG 15" color monitor Add-on products ----------------------- ADDITIONAL MEMORY --------------------------------- 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 INTERNAL STORAGE DEVICES --------------------------------- 260 MB SCSI-2 470 525 MB SCSI-2 1,120 1 GB SCSI-2 1,995 OTHER --------------------------------- HP Token Ring/9000 for Model 712 645 Software driver on DDS tape 2395 Second serial port 265 Second LAN AUI and second serial port 645 Second monitor port 1,395 X.25 port with second serial port 795
From: me@helser18.res.iastate.edu (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DRAM problems Date: 19 Jan 1994 16:14:25 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hjm91$iog@news.iastate.edu> I've got a dimension board that's got all of it's DRAM slots full. The SIMMS are aparently 1meg since I have 8meg DRAM. Anyway, I recently got an 8meg SIMM (72-pin etc, ie right specs for DRAM) from 1st Tech Corporation. I took out one of the one meg SIMMS and installed the 8 meg SIMM, but I'm still getting a reading of only 8 megs. What's going on here? Also, is there and easier way to find DRAM size other than watching the boot process at the end? -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * ****************************************************************
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Date: 19 Jan 1994 16:38:57 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2hjnn1$jnd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com>, Mark Paul LeScoezec <ml@tsiny.psca.com> wrote: >It's been a long wait, but the world's most advanced RISC workstation >is here! The HP 712 series, or Gecko, is a major advance in desktop >workstation technology. Using the "bi-endian" PA7100LC as its main >CPU, the Gecko can adapt to whatever operating system you choose. >Onboard MPEG hardware compression/decompression will display your >realtime news and video feeds smoothly and quickly. Does _anyone_ know what the resolution the Gecko can do? What refresh rates? >MPEG (640 x 480) 30 fps 30 fps Can you make the window larger? -- New .signature under development. Start your development now! Beat the crowd!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <1994Jan19.170019.25294@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 17:00:19 GMT Mark Paul LeScoezec (mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com) wrote: : The HP Gecko base configuration includes Desktop HP-UX, a slimmer : version of HP's Unix that leaves you 100 MBs for your files. You also : get CD-quality, 16-bit audio for clear, crisp playback of sound and : music. You can choose from expansive 17" or 19" color monitors, or ^^^^^^^^^ Are you sure that this should not read 'expensive' ? ;-) Just tried to extrapolate HP's add-on prices... : even an active-matrix color, flat panel display for Energy Star : compliance. If you require higher storage capacity, choose from an : available 525 MB or 1.0 GB SCSI disk. And you can decide on the : amount of memory upgradeability that's right for you--choose from 16 : MB up to 128 MBs of RAM! ... : 16 MBs DRAM 3879 : 260 MB SCSI disk : Ethernet : CD-quality audio and MPEG : 15" color monitor Once again: What screen resolution / color depth supports this model ? I heard something about 32bit graphics, but at which resolution ? Gregor | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 19 Jan 1994 17:36:21 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2hjr2l$d4l@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> <2hjnn1$jnd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Nice, nice. NeXT said something about availibility of (oh, how will it be called?) NSfHP (?) for the third or fourth quarter of '94. How much will it cost then for a Gecko? (I have a somewhat dark promonition ...) --------------------------- "" rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: swong@zeus (swong) Subject: Adaptec 1542cf Message-ID: <CJvz9n.I5M@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 17:00:58 GMT I have been using NS/I 3.2 with an 1542b and everything was fine. I then had to change the controller to a 1542cf, and things haven't been so nice since. I have it on all the defaults, but I always get A LOT of: TRANSFER COUNT ERROR. It basically asked for a read block and didn't get it, then it retries. This is fine to boot up and I get the login prompt, but after I type in my userid and password it just logs me out. I imagine because of so many transfer count errors. So, does anyone else have this problem, or if you are using a 1542cf can you tell my your settings. I am pretty sure mine are at the defaults, but who knows. I am pretty sure it isn't my motherboard since I did have a 1542b working fine. stan swong@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) Subject: NS/I 3.2, ProAudio Spectrum 16, and Adaptec Message-ID: <759001187450@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 17:39:47 GMT Has anyone made this combination work? I have it working find under DOS and Windows, but under NS I've gotten exactly one sndplay to work. I have hacked on the PAS driver to unmute the output source that was muted. However, from watching the delays in Sound.app I think I may be getting bit by the SCSI adapter grabbing the bus for too long (as per the following note from the NextAnswer on the PAS: On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is present, the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1-kHz CD-quality sound. If the Adaptec controller controls the bus for long periods of time, the Pro Audio Spectrum16 board is locked out and freezes, which may cause a kernel panic. This is a hardware problem that has also been discovered in other 32-bit operating systems. Hmm, on reading this again that might not be it, since I don't get a panic, just lack of sound. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, --bob
From: adorazio@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Dorazio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStep on a Quadra Date: 19 Jan 1994 17:58:29 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2hjsc5$5jt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I feel like a moron for asking, but, since a NeXTStation is so much LIKE a Mac, couldn't one install NeXTStep ON a Mac? I mean, why not? Someone refute my claim! td3
From: mitchell@spam.suite.com (Craig Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with IBM 0662 1GB Drive in a Cube Date: 18 Jan 1994 23:46:17 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <2hhsc9$2cr@bilbo.suite.com> We have been trying to install a 1 GB 9 ms IBM model 0662 drive in a Cube. It is replacing the original hard disk. We can get the disk to format and have loaded the OS. Unfortunately the disk is not bootable. We have to boot the machine from the network in order to access the disk. Has anyone had any better luck? Thanks. - Craig Mitchell mitchell@suite.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <1994Jan19.171119.28590@gleap.sccsi.com> Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com Organization: GiantLeap Software References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 17:11:19 GMT Mark Paul LeScoezec writes >music. You can choose from expansive 17" or 19" color monitors, or >even an active-matrix color, flat panel display for Energy Star >compliance. Anybody know what would be an approximate price on these flat panel displays? What about the size? -- Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com GiantLeap Software (713) 292-5853 or 363-9001 (Hou) (713) 363-9763 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Leif E. Harrison) Subject: Need help configuring TCI LineLink 14.4e modem Message-ID: <1994Jan19.183915.8048@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Originator: n9240566@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu Sender: news@henson.cc.wwu.edu (USENET-WWU) Organization: Western Washington University Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 18:39:15 GMT Last week I purchased a TCI LineLink 14.4e modem from MacWarehouse. I also purchased a NeXT-040 -> Modem cable from PCConnection. On the day it arrived I managed somehow to get it working for as total of about 15 minutes but have not gotten it to work again since. So I'm seeking help from anybody on the net who has purchased one of these modems and might help me to either configure it properly, or decide that it really is broken so I can send it back. For those who have used on with an 040 Cube or Station, 1) Which cable did you use, the one that shipped with the modem, or did you buy/build a hardware flow control cable? 2) did you make any particular changes to the factory configuration settings? When I first got it I read through some modem setup notes by somebody here on the net (generic notes) and changed the modem setup slightly using at &C1 &D2 \X3 ...I believe that's all. As far as I can remember that was all I used and it worked...for about 15 minutes. Anyhow, I'm just getting frustrated. MacWarehouse is clueless about using the modem with a NeXT. Prometheus (the manufacturer) wasn't much help either. The damn thing *did* work at one point. And half the time it won't pass it's "self-test" when I turn it on. (hrrmmm...out of curiosity, would turning the modem off, then on again while the computer is on damage the modem or cause it to fail it's self-test?) *sigh* I guess that's what I get for buying "cheap"... - Leif Harrison n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu rexfelis@bailey.cpac.washington.edu
From: bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer Date: 19 Jan 1994 18:58:12 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hjvs4$jcr@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Is there any easy way to hook up a Parallel printer to a NeXT Cube? Do I need a serial/parallel converter? Has anyone had experiences with this? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Not NeXTMail) | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) Subject: CD-ROM drives on a NeXTstation Message-ID: <CJw7DA.KL9@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:55:57 GMT I'm about to upgrade my 2.1 NeXTstation to 3.0j, but before I do I'd like to hear from people who have done this successfully. To do the upgrade I need to rent a CD-ROM drive, and the popular rental ones so far seem to be the Apple CD300, the NEC 73M and 74, and some Toshiba models. Does anyone have direct experience plugging an NEC 74 drive into a NeXT via a SCSI-II to SCSI-I adapter cable? A list of CD-ROM drives known to work well with the NeXT would be very helpful, too. I'd really like to do a COMPLETE tape backup of my system, but since I don't have the luxury of owning a tape or DAT drive, can anyone suggest a list of critical things to backup to floppy (i.e. everything in /etc, /usr, and the 2.1 binaries)? Is GNU tar a good way to do it? Thanks, Eric p.s. Please copy me via e-mail if you respond by posting.
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: murff@warlock.demon.co.uk (Damian Murphy) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> Organization: Large Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:01:04 +0000 Message-ID: <759006064snz@warlock.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM "Bill Vrotney" writes: >My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. Ahh, bollocks. > Along >with the preferential treatment of supply side economics comes preferential >treatment to maximize profits. To these kinds of businesses you are a >worthless entity as an individual. These kinds of businesses even give more >preferential treatment to some bigger customers over others depending on how >much they suck up. This kind of business person is quick to say that it is >only reasonable for them to do this. But it is not reasonable when they >infringe on people's rights. > This is bullshit too. I get as good service when I call up companies as part of my work as I do as an individual. Indeed, buying as an individual, and not having to go through all the admin shit (filed in heptuplicate, lost, found, cunk, salvaged etc) I can get things next day, rather than having a long, annoying wait. Paying by VISA, and only ordering in-stock helps, too. What the people on the end of the phone would, I assume, tend to get pissed off by being messed around. After all, they're there to answer professionally put questions. Companies which can't furnish such personnel deserve to go bust. It is possible to get lousy service. You just don't go back there again. >Let us change the political correctness of this situation. Whether you are >ordering for yourself or your company the next time a vendor asks for your >company name try saying "You are not supposed to ask that question anymore." No. Grow up. You tell them it is a private purchase. If they're not interested in you business, go somewhere else. There are *lots* of suppliers to choose from. If you're after stuff that magazine-advertisers don't cover, go to DECdirect, or SunSelect or whatever. These might not exactly be cheap, but you expect this sort of kit to be pricey and are willing to pay. These subsidiaries are set up to sell single units. They also accept VISA. > For the most part we are the people >who do the purchasing of computer wares and if we want to we can put a stop >to such preferential treatment. > There are companies who do specialise in selling to the corporate market. Given that most organisations of any size will, these days, probably have some sort of network going, any with sense will require proof of performance before accepting and paying for kit. We certainly do (and a good thing it is too). This means that the firm has to be able to provide installation services, etc, on trials and evaluations which may prove to be dead ends. They may not actually be set up to deal with private purchases. Having said that, I hope any that do are on their way to oblivion - or maybe evil's house for some affable company ;-) Murff... -- Murff... is | "Time is done, and all the scaffolding of Time murff@warlock.demon.co.uk | falls wrecked with hideous clangour round thy Fax, ftp & pgp on request | soul." Thomas Carlyle, 'The French Revolution'
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS/I 3.2, ProAudio Spectrum 16, and Adaptec Date: 19 Jan 1994 20:35:18 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hk5i6$ob8@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <759001187450@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> In article <759001187450@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes: >Has anyone made this combination work? I have it working find under >DOS and Windows, but under NS I've gotten exactly one sndplay to work. We have an Epson NX (ISA bus) with Adaptec AHA-????B at IRQ11, and ProAudio Spectrum 16 set to IRQ3, DMA3. (I have serial ports disabled.) This works quite well and withstand continuous boinks generated by holding down the Delete key in Terminal app. ProAudio with IRQ15, DMA3 works nearly as well too. However, DMA6 or DMA7 with any IRQ did not work well. Sound skipped quite regularly. We could not make ProAudio work under 3.1 without getting RDP exceptions, but 3.2 seems to have fixed the problem. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dot matrix printer drivers Date: 19 Jan 1994 20:40:02 GMT Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <2hk5r2INN5kk@network.ucsd.edu> I'm confused on the subject of dot matrix printer drivers for NS. The 3.1 distribution includes drivers for IBM Proprinter and Epson LQ compatible printers. There are also commercial products (Dots and JetDriver) that do a similar thing for HP PCL compatible printers. On sonata there is also something to drive an HP550C using ghostscript. My situation is that I have a Canon BJ200, which is Proprinter compatible. The Next supplied driver works okay, but only seems to support 180dpi. For 3.2 I remeber reading that these drivers were unbundled and sold separately, does anyone know if they support higher resolution for inkjets? Should I start messing around with ghostscript? Or should I go trade my printer for an HP compatible one and buy one of the commercial packages? My bottom line is that I am looking for basic ineqpensive B&W output, but as long as I've got a 360dpi printer I'd like to print 360dpi. Thanks for your help, doug. (should this possibly become part of the FAQ?)
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Date: 19 Jan 1994 20:37:34 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2hk5me$4hj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2hjsc5$5jt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2hjsc5$5jt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> adorazio@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Dorazio) writes: >I feel like a moron for asking, but, since a NeXTStation is so much LIKE a Mac >couldn't one install NeXTStep ON a Mac? I mean, why not? >Someone refute my claim! On the contrary, I support your claim, and I will go so far as to say that there have been confirmed rumors of NEXTSTEP running on Mac Quadras for quite some time. The story goes that a NeXT engineer got NEXTSTEP up and running on a Quadra over a weekend - at home nonetheless. Interpret this as you may, but there is no question Mac hardware and NeXT hardware have similar characteristics, and if the memory management and driver issues are well handled, there is no reason why NEXTSTEP cannot run on a Quadra. As far as being able to purchase it, that is another question. I believe it would be in NeXT's best interest to support Mac hardware if they get it running good enough. Additional income is always welcome, as long as it is not a support nightmare. Realistically, I believe that NEXTSTEP on PowerPC Macs might be a more believable scenario. NEXTSTEP currently runs on PowerPC in the labs, and there is no question these chips are powerful enough. Eric
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Annoying constant background hiss in my Slab --- Any ideas? Date: 19 Jan 1994 21:37:13 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2hk969$a4p@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, I cannot recall how long this has been the case, but my 1991 slab has an annoying constant background hiss, as if made by an errant fan, but I see no outlet for a fan. Has anyone any ideas and/or helpful hints? Is this a costly problem under the new NeXT hardware support? Sincerely, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca (Geoff Shukin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help Installing NS/FIP (3.2) Date: 19 Jan 1994 22:06:35 GMT Organization: SIAST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hkatb$og1@tribune.usask.ca> I am waiting for a new SCSI Hard Drive on which NeXTstep Ver 3.2 will be installed. However, it seems that I will have to wait a little longer than expected. I decided to try and install NeXTstep on an IDE drive to pass the time! Here's my systems and then what happened: 486dx 33 ISA / VL Bus 20meg S3 Video Card 16550c Serial card Multi I/O card driving the 2 - 210 IDE Drives Bus Logic SCSI Texel CD I moved all important files from the Second (D Drive) disk and started the installation program. It prepared the hard drive and It rebooted. Nothing happened after that. ie Dos started 8-( It seems as if the Boot program did not get written to the C Drive. Why? I can not go any further than this for now. My SCSI Disk is not available until Feb. Help Please!!! Thanks in advance, Geoff Shukin
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: craig@scot.demon.co.uk (Craig Cockburn) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> Organization: Mo dhachaidh, Edinburgh Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 21:27:11 +0000 Message-ID: <759014831snz@scot.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk "Robert Nicholson" writes: > First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your > company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you > get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in > It is trivial, and completely legal to set yourself up as a "sole trader". All you need to do is print some stationary with your name and either "trading as <unique company name>" or simply "Proprietor: <your name>". Hey presto, you now have your own business and you don't even need to register it. This also allows you to join about 90% of all the cash and carry's in the UK (source: The Wholesale and Direct Buyers Guide by Charles Wainwright). Now when you call the companies and they ask for a company name, you can give them one. Now all I need to do is convince more stores to quote prices including VAT! (Escom already do) > > If anybody knows of any crowd who stocks good quality (DEC,HP) 1GIG > harddrives and wants to sell them please get in touch. > Have you tried DECdirect or whatever they're called these days? -- Craig Cockburn, pronounced "coburn" Email: craig@scot.demon.co.uk M.Sc. Student, Napier University, Edinburgh, Scotland Sgri\obh thugam 'sa Ga\idhlig ma 'se do thoil e.
From: sobiloff@lap.umd.edu (Blake Sobiloff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hub-less Ethernet (was: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable?) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 18:59:56 -0500 Organization: Lab for Automation Psychology Message-ID: <sobiloff-190194185956@bsospsyc151.umd.edu> References: <QhDAazy00iUyACv2EB@andrew.cmu.edu> <2himcu$h0v@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <2himcu$h0v@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, jgs@hadron.merit.edu (John G. Scudder) wrote: > Another option, cheaper still, is to use 10BaseT, but use a wire which > has been wired "backwards" to connect the two machines. As I > understand it, if the pins on one end are reversed, you can wire two > (though no more than two) 10BaseT stations together to form a hubless > network. I haven't tried this myself (yet). My understand is that this sometimes works, but it isn't recommended. However, this doesn't mean you have to buy a hub. Farallon's EtherWave adapters will let you daisy-chain up to 10 devices without a hub. anonymous ftp over to ftp.farallon.com for more info and specs. -- Blake Sobiloff <sobiloff@lap.umd.edu> | University of Maryland Laboratory for Automation Psychology | College Park, MD 20742-4411 Department of Psychology | 301/405-5936 (Voice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Is my cube's hard disk dying? Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc. Date: 19 Jan 94 14:33:38 PST Message-ID: <1994Jan19.143338.29700@crash> Back on 22 Dec I ran into a major problem with my cube's hard disk (it's the original Maxtor 349MB drive provided by NeXT). Basically, 3/4 of the files in the /etc directory suddently disappeared. I rebooted and fsck found "mangled" inodes. I was able to salvage and have been running fine until this morning, when we noticed weird stuff happening on other machines. Turns out half the /etc directory was missing again on the cube, including /etc/netinfo! So I rebooted and it came back up after a fsck or two and some salvaging. Sounds like I have a bad sector or so on my HD or what? This machine was bought in 1990. No warranty left I suppose. What are my options? ANy way to do a low-level reformat and surface scan and mark bad sectors? Any suggestions would be welcome! -- brian dear coconut computing, inc. brian@coconut.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Re: Is my cube's hard disk dying? Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA Date: 19 Jan 94 14:55:28 PST Message-ID: <1994Jan19.145528.635@crash> References: <1994Jan19.143338.29700@crash> Brian Dear (coconut@crash.cts.com) wrote: : : Back on 22 Dec I ran into a major problem with my cube's hard disk : (it's the original Maxtor 349MB drive provided by NeXT). Basically, : 3/4 of the files in the /etc directory suddently disappeared. I rebooted : and fsck found "mangled" inodes. I was able to salvage and have been : running fine until this morning, when we noticed weird stuff happening : on other machines. Turns out half the /etc directory was missing again : on the cube, including /etc/netinfo! So I rebooted and it came back up : after a fsck or two and some salvaging. : : Sounds like I have a bad sector or so on my HD or what? This machine was : bought in 1990. No warranty left I suppose. What are my options? : : ANy way to do a low-level reformat and surface scan and mark bad sectors? : Any suggestions would be welcome! : : -- brian dear : coconut computing, inc. : brian@coconut.com : I would also like to add that this machine is running NS3.2 and has 24MB RAM. For what it's worth, the machine ran FINE from the day we purchased it until just last month (December 1993!) ---> the month we installed NS3.2! In other words, all of our troubles began subsequent to installing NS3.2.
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: neil@melkfri.demon.co.uk (Neil Brewitt) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? Distribution: world References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <1994Jan19.023923.5851@adobe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Independant Node. Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 20:42:06 +0000 Message-ID: <neil.07b8@melkfri.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <1994Jan19.023923.5851@adobe.com> chesnutt@adobe.com (Stan Chesnutt) writes: > > Blame poor customer service on the Reagan administration? That's stretching > it quite a bit. Indict supply-side economics? Are you flame-baiting? No flame baiting occurs in Demon.local -- **** neil@melkfri.demon.co.uk ****
From: Martin David Frankel <mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 19:49:57 -0500 Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <shDRIpK00WB4IvFvQa@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jan19.171119.28590@gleap.sccsi.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Jan-94 Re: skinny on new HP box (.. by Charles C. Lloyd@gleap > Anybody know what would be an approximate price on these flat panel displays? > > What about the size? 12 inches. Somehow this is equivalent to a 17 inch conventional CRT in the press release. Maybe this is 12" horizontal visible area? And the price? Sit down folks... $10,595. Not only that, but these computers use 8 bit "pseudo-24-bit" color a la the low end SGIs. I'm very, very disappointed. For a while there I thought a HP Gecko was in my future; not anymore. -- Martin
From: Martin David Frankel <mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What happened to TECOR? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 20:19:53 -0500 Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ohDRktG00WB9QXeq5=@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi everyone! My Fujitsu hard drive just died. (Yes, the ones with 200,000 hours MTBF.) I tried calling Tecor, the company I bought it from, and the phone number I have from two years ago is disconnected. Unfortunately, all other information I have about Tecor was on the hard drive. Does anyone know whether Tecor still exists, and if so, how I can get in touch with them? By the way, I called Fujitsu and here's what I found about warranty replacement: I send the drive to their distributor, and two months later I get a replacement. OR, I send the drive to their distributor with a $100 "administrative fee" and a week later I get a replacement. Neither of these options are acceptable. Is this miserable treatment the industry standard or is Fujitsu particularly irresponsible about customer service? -- Martin
From: gt8855a@prism.gatech.EDU (Roy Mongiovi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installation of 3.2 on Maxtor IDE drive... help Summary: Fails with IDE: ideFlush Int Msgs: Stray intr: ideWriteMultiple Keywords: IDE NS/I 3.2 Message-ID: <132454@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 18 Jan 94 08:42:34 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology We've successfully installed both 3.1 and 3.2 with this system onto a Maxtor SCSI drive, however we need this system up using a Maxtor LXT340A (340 marketing-MB IDE drive). Maxtor Tech Support has said that this drive was supported under NEXTSTEP (some of their drives have NS-specific patches, but the LXT340 isn't one of them)... their only advice was a low-level format which hasn't helped. Here are the messages we're seeing as well as a complete system description: [since there seems to be no way to capture the messages during installation, what follows is a compendium of my jots during the six+ times we let this process cycle. If I've missed a key message, by all means ask about it and I'll re-do this and watch for it] BOOTING FROM UPGRADE FLOPPY... Adaptec controller @ irq 11 Resetting SCSI Bus sd0: Toshiba CD ROM XM 3401TA 2873 Target 4 LUN 0 IDE ... block mr 3, char mgr 15 IDE Drive 0x using Multisector Mode <<<< HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS??? registering hd0a: hd0: block size 512 hd0: Dev Capacity 321M hd0: DiskLabel: Disk Available disks 1. IDE Disk #1 (Type 47) - 321 MB Erase the entire disk and use all 321 MB for NeXTSTEP Ready to install NeXTSTEP <<< THE BEGINNING OF THE END This may take a few minutes... Limiting sectors to those BIOS accessible: 329616-329112 <<< WEIRD Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 (wait ~30 seconds) IDE: ideFlush Int Msgs: Stray intr: ideWriteMultiple wtfs: I/O Error DISK INITIALIZATION FAILED (system reboots!) The hardware installed on the system is: American Megatrends Intel 486 DX-33 w/32M RAM VL ATI Ultra Pro graphics card Adaptec 1540B SCSI controller Toshiba XM-3401TA 2873 CD-ROM drive (SCSI ID 4) (we've tried several ID's on the Toshiba, inc 0) Maxtor LXT340A IDE drive We've checked the IDE BIOS configuration countless times, and read all NextAnswers that looked interesting. Thanks for any help! Bert -- Bert Lindgren Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 (404) 841-6220 Internet: bert@cc.gatech.edu Prodigy: Surely you jest >>>>>>>>>>>> NeXT Mail always enjoyed and appreciated <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: paul@vorpal.digex.net (Paul D. Guthrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Date: 20 Jan 1994 02:09:04 GMT Organization: Vorpal Software Message-ID: <2hkp40$d53@news1.digex.net> References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com>, Mark Paul LeScoezec <ml@tsiny.psca.com> wrote: >The base configuration includes an RS-232C serial port, an AUI port, >one SCSI-2 port, one Centronics port, X.25 and telephony ports, and >two slots. What in tarnation is an X.25 port????? do they mean a synchronous serial interface, a BRI, or something else. There's no such thing as an X.25 port. Will NeXTSTEP come with any software to support this and/or the telephony ports (PhoneKit revived)? An fully programmable X.25 class library combined with DBKit could be a pretty decent applications base for small transaction processing systems. -- Paul Guthrie paul@vorpal.digex.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: What should I buy Message-ID: <1994Jan19.204802.17829@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <2h9vofINNje3@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 20:48:02 GMT The best thing to do is to get some basic documentation that is freely available. Send e-mail to NeXTanswers@next.com, and put "help ascii" in the subject line. Follow the instructions in the reply to get the document index. From that, get the NEXTSTEP/FIP 3.2 Hardware Compatability Guide. It will answer a lot of your questions, and doubtless generate several more. In article <2h9vofINNje3@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> martija@mundania.CS.ORST.EDU (Jared Martinsen) writes: >A friend told me that I needed these requirements to run next step. > >AMI biase American Megatrend Incop. AMI BIOS. It is a chip, but it's a ROM, so you should think of it as firmware. This is *not* a requirement -- it is simply one of the better implementations of BIOS firmware. >16 megs ram It depends on what display/colors you plan to use, but in general, this is probably a good minimum. >EISA bus >Should I get the EISA or will another bus be about as good for the price? >Is can I not buy a EISA bus now and add one later without having to buy a >new motherboard? There is no requirement to get EISA. It is strongly recommended that you get VESA Localbus, for the best display performance. EISA may give you some extra disk performance, provided you use an EISA adapter. >adapt tech 1742b This adapter is used in 1542 (ISA) compatability mode, so I'd recommend against it. Stick with the 1542, or get a DPT 2022/90 which is true EISA. >video card- ati ultipro ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, 2Meg VRAM, VESA Localbus. This is the best general purpose card supported, I highly recommend it. It has above average MS-DOS and Windows performance, but it is not among the fastest. >sound card - 16 bit media vision pro audio spectra 16 Optional. The only cards supported are Microsoft Sound System and the Media Vision Pro Audio 16 series. >CD-rom Recommended in general, required for installation. >harddrive Required. Get at least 340 Meg. >monitor Required. Get at least a 17" monitor (unless you are using 800x600x8 Gray, in which case a 15" is acceptable.) >I am curious which parts I should buy or what is recommended. Really, the only things required are the minimum memory (16 Meg in most cases), compatible adapters, and compatible 486DX motherboards/systems. These are all listed in the Hardware Compatability Guide. >Actually right >now I am more interesting in having a system that run X-windows, Borland c++ >, Warlords, Doom, etc. I just want a system that has the capiability to >run next-step in the future without selling a video card and a sound card >and everything else. My biggest concern is compatability. I want to be >able to run in DOS, Windows and eventually nextstep. In that case, make sure you get a bigger disk, so you can have a separate DOS/Windows partition. At least 660 Meg, I'd say, evenly split between two partitions. A minimal NEXTSTEP machine is an above average MS-DOS/Windows machine, so you should be able to get exactly what you want. On the other hand, the only true way to know if NEXTSTEP will run on the machine is if the system is listed in the Hardware Guide (either Certified or Listed), or someone has actually installed it and tried it on an identically configured system. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: VLB IDE Controllers? Message-ID: <1994Jan20.024636.12067@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 02:46:36 GMT Does anyone know which (if any) VLB IDE controllers work under NS/iP? Thanx. LT -- ____________________________________________________ /| | | | There are only two organizations that I know of | | | that send armed men in dark suits and sunglasses | | | to take your money: the mafia and the government. | | | | | | Lenny Turetsky (aka) lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu | | |____________________________________________________| |/____________________________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian) Subject: Help: regarding drivers Message-ID: <1994Jan20.033732.13355@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 03:37:32 GMT Hi, We want to do simple slow IO with a NeXTStep Intel machine, along the lines of "put this byte out to that IO port" and "read a byte from that IO port". We expected some simple functions similar to outb() and inb() from microsoft (DOS) c to exist, and, infact the "same" functions were found in "\NextDeveloper\Headers\driverkit\i386\ioPorts.h". They include the warning "Note: These functions work only at kernel level". Does this mean that we must write some complex device driver ?. If so does the generic version exist or any suggestions as to how to go about writing will be appreciated. We tested our board to which we want to write or read by booting the intel 486 to DOS and that works as we expected. But then we tried to do the same thing by booting the system to NeXTStep with the above mentioned ioPorts.h header file included and the application just quits when we try to write to the port. We would greatly appreciate any suggestions from anyone familiar with these as to what is it that we are missing here. If possible please reply to balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu. Thanks very much for your time Balu
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is my cube's hard disk dying? Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 20:25:33 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <MS-C.759039933.1103527590.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII To: Brian Dear <coconut@crash.cts.com> In-Reply-To: <1994Jan19.145528.635@crash> Brian Dear - It sounds you got bit by the very same problem that nailed me; a whole mess of low-numbered inodes got stomped. /etc is one of the first things written onto the disk and thus its files tend to have low-numbered inodes. I encountered the problem the same evening I installed 3.2. Just maybe, now that you have reported the same problem, it might be taken seriously instead of being labelled as being a fantasy problem or ``karma''.
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? In-Reply-To: bvrotney@ADS.COM's message of Wed, 19 Jan 1994 01:54:06 GMT To: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 12:57:04 GMT In article <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) writes: > This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer > equipment in this country. > > First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your > company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you > get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. Along with the preferential treatment of supply side economics comes preferential treatment to maximize profits. To these kinds of businesses you are a worthless entity as an individual. These kinds of businesses even give more preferential treatment to some bigger customers over others depending on how much they suck up. This kind of business person is quick to say that it is only reasonable for them to do this. But it is not reasonable when they infringe on people's rights. Couldn't agree more. If we just finally got rid of that dang profit motive and evolved to a higher social level then _finally_ we would get the quality of service and technical excellence in the computer industry which we have come to expect from the post office and the department of motor vehicles. Carl Edman PS: Have a look at the address of the original poster.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ian_stewart@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart) Subject: color printer ppds needed Message-ID: <CJwEop.10x@nyro.com> Sender: ian@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart) Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. - 415 664-1170 References: <CJp35D.760@nyro.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 22:34:01 GMT Let's try this again! Where do I find ppds for any of the following: HP 1200c ps option Canon BJC-600 no ps option QMS 1000 ? Apple Color Printer ? I have looked at the NeXT Color Printer and the black tends to bleed into my colors. I know the Apple Color is the same printer, but it only cost $445.00. Any help is appreciated. Ian H. Stewart
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: lance@avalon.demon.co.uk ("Lance S. Buckley") Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: Least Significant Bit Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 06:07:13 +0000 Message-ID: <759046033snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu writes: > > Couldn't agree more. If we just finally got rid of that dang profit > motive and evolved to a higher social level then _finally_ we would > get the quality of service and technical excellence in the computer > industry which we have come to expect from the post office and the > department of motor vehicles. Egad, An interloper! [makes sign of cross] The only thing wrong with this country is the fact I have to live in it. It sure looked a lot more inviting from across the other side of the Atlantic. Lance (A nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live here) -- Lance S. Buckley (LSB) lance@avalon.demon.co.uk Wanted: Cheap used merkin (dark brown), must have been recently fumigated. Will offer an unused wavefunction in part exchange. Never been used, one careful owner. A must see! [PGP 2.3a key available on request, and via keyserver]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yting@cs.umr.edu (Yu-Han Ting) Subject: [UERGENT] #9GXe VLB Lvl 14 + NSI 3.2 possible? References: <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <1994Jan19.030224.25377@gleap.sccsi.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 06:06:38 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration) Message-ID: <1994Jan20.060638.17281@umr.edu> Does anybody know if it's possible to make #9GXe VLB level 14 work with NSI 3.2? Any info. is appreciated. Thanks in advance. Yu-Han Ting yting@cs.umr.edu
From: dekorte@next1.scri.fsu.edu (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN Extender problem Message-ID: <13347@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 20 Jan 94 05:08:31 GMT Sender: news@sun13.scri.fsu.edu I've just gotten a Hayes ISDN Extender for my home NeXTstation and tried to run the MessageCenter app in: /NextDeveloper/Examples/Appkit/MessageCenter When I recieve a call, it picks up the phone and instead of playing the greating message, it plays a burst of static of the same length,and then records the message. I've tried using different greeting messages, but this doesn't help. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Is it a problem with the extender or the messageCenter app? Also, I'm using the analog(POTS) line connection. Thanks for any help, Steve Ps. Please respond by email.tic of the same length,and then records the message. I've tried using different greeting messages, but this doesn't help. Does any
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <1994Jan20.090415.13796@mail.vitech.fi> Organization: Vaasa Institute of Technology References: <shDRIpK00WB4IvFvQa@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 09:04:15 GMT Martin David Frankel (mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Not only that, but these computers use 8 bit "pseudo-24-bit" color a la : the low end SGIs. Commodore AGA-chipset??? (Atleast HP does manufacture those chips for Commo- dore) : I'm very, very disappointed. For a while there I thought a HP Gecko was in : my future; not anymore. : -- Martin -Jani
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: chris@loncps.demon.co.uk (Christopher Salter) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> <759046033snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> Organization: TBA Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 12:04:22 +0000 Message-ID: <759067462snz@loncps.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759046033snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> lance@avalon.demon.co.uk ""Lance S. Buckley"" writes: >In article <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu > writes: >> >> Couldn't agree more. If we just finally got rid of that dang profit >> motive and evolved to a higher social level then _finally_ we would >> get the quality of service and technical excellence in the computer >> industry which we have come to expect from the post office and the >> department of motor vehicles. >Egad, An interloper! [makes sign of cross] > >The only thing wrong with this country is the fact I have to >live in it. We were sort of thinking the same but we were brought up to be polite and hospitable to visitors from foreign parts, so we let you stay here. :-) Chris -- Christopher P Salter London England Internet : chris@loncps.demon.co.uk Compuserve : 73064,357
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: My experiences trying to purchase a harddrive. Date: 20 Jan 1994 13:59:22 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2hm2nq$d9@steffi.demon.co.uk> Let me first explain why I am concerned about this. When I chose to go out and buy some computer equipment I usually _like_ to be able to be given the oppounity to choose based on several criteria. One of which is price. Hence, my need for various suppliers. Prices vary dramaticallly depending on the supplier and it seems that over here you are generally forced to purchase from whoever will deal with you because nobody else will. Having rung Quality Matters after a suggestion from a very helpful DIS staff member they said they would have somebody ring me when they had someone available. It seems that two days later they still haven't got anybody available. Somebody else recommended C&T. I strongly recommend that you forget all about this crowd. I have rung them 6 times requesting a fax be sent detailing pricing and still no fax has been sent. I honestly can't think why not. But that's the last straw, even if they do send me a fax now I will forget all about them. They obviously don't know what it means to keep good customer relations and thus I cannot imagine the problems I would be facing should I need to return any equipment to them. I also tried DataMan and they only do Fujitsu drives. After answering my call some lady then wanted me to answer a load of questions so that I could be entered into their database. Long distance call at my expense and they want to play 20 questions. It's laugable to say the least. Somebody also mentioned that people deal in HD's on CIX and on demon.local. So if you can quote me a price on a DEC 3107 including warranty lifetime then feel free to do so. I refuse to be dictated to by the rip off merchants that plague this country. -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "Nothing" Charade, 1963 robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages) -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "Nothing" Charade, 1963 robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages)
From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to boot cube from external disk not lowest SCSI ID? Date: 20 Jan 94 09:03:24 Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN Message-ID: <MAX.94Jan20090324@Kolmogorov.gac.edu> References: <2hcm2p$nh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3M6KBQ3H@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In-reply-to: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de's message of Tue, 18 Jan 1994 08:25:31 GMT In article <3M6KBQ3H@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: Dan Pritts (danno@css.itd.umich.edu) wrote: > I was once told by a NeXT support person to use bsd(1,0,0) -rootdev=sd1a bsd(1,0,0) rootdev=sd1a ----------^^------------ Before you do it, change the root entry in /etc/fstab on the external disk from /dev/sd0a to /dev/sd1a. Otherwise your internal disk will be remounted as root during boot :-) There is another approach, which you can use if you can't change the external drive's fstab first, for example because the internal drive has been rendered un-bootable. What you do is add -bs to the bsd command shown above, which boots you into a super-raw single-user mode that hasn't run even the /etc/rc.boot script, which is where the remounting gets done. Therefore, you still have the sd1a drive mounted as the root file system; unfortunately, it is mounted read-only at this point. So, what you do is the remounting manually, specifying the drive explicitly so it doesn't need to rely on the fstab: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sd1a / At this point, you've got the sd1a as a read-write / filesystem, so you can then edit /etc/fstab. After that point, you can reboot with just the (1,0,0) and rootdev=sd1a parts.
From: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien), Department of Mental Hygiene, Johns Hopkins University Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next printer jamming Date: 20 Jan 1994 16:16:02 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <2hmao2INNjqb@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Does anyone know how to fix a NeXT printer that won't feed paper in more than about 1/3 of the sheet before jamming? This just started happening a few days ago and non-specific fiddling and jiggling of the insides does not help. It is probably a simple thing (I hope). Thanks, Allen Tien
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCI ATI-GUP and NSI Problem Date: 20 Jan 1994 16:09:05 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2hmab1$cl@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hy, it seems that the NSI 3.2 Drivers for the ATI GUP do not work with the PCI Version. I think the Problem is the hard wired "Memory Aperture" on the PCI Version. The PCI-ATI uses A0000 + 1024MB as the Frame Buffer adress, and it seems there is no way to change this. If I use this adress in the Configure.app, I get a message at boot time, that NextStep decodes another adresse from somewhere in the card and that it will use this adress. It identifies the PCI-ATI as a Local Bus Version. Then I get coloured stripes on the screen and the system halts. So, I don`t know a solution for that. Any ideas ? -- "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
From: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help: Trouble with installing IBM 0662 S12, 1GB HardDisk,SCSI Date: 20 Jan 1994 16:08:01 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <2hma91$e6n@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Keywords: IBM, HardDisk, SCSI Hello Hardware Experts I have a IBM 0662 S12, 1GB HardDisk, SCSI and I am not able to connect this HardDisk to my NextStation (NextStep 3.0). I get always the message: sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1dfe, resid = 0x1c48, retry ... sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL Does anyone have had the same problem ? What do I have to do, to workaround this ? Thank you very much Erland Wittkoetter -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Erland Wittkoetter -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Uni Konstanz, Dept.of Physics, LS Dehnen, PO.Box 5560, 78434 Konstanz Phone: +(49) 7531-88-3747 FAX. +(49) 7531-88-3888 (priv.) Abendbergweg 7, 78465 Konstanz,Germany, Phone:+(49)7531-43078 E-mail: erland@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de phwitt@nyx.uni-konstanz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell) Subject: HD bracket for cube Message-ID: <CJw3nz.32M@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 18:35:59 GMT Does anyone know where I can get a HD bracket for my cube. I tried Bell Atlantic and they said they did not have any. harry harryt@world.std.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- harryt@world.std.com All comments are my own and tirrellh@novavax.nova.edu bare no relationship to any
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <1994Jan20.160834.7738@ictv.com> Sender: usenet@ictv.com Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200 References: <2hjnn1$jnd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 16:08:34 GMT R S Rodgers writes > In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com>, > Mark Paul LeScoezec <ml@tsiny.psca.com> wrote: [MUNCH] > >Onboard MPEG hardware compression/decompression will display your > >realtime news and video feeds smoothly and quickly. > > > Does _anyone_ know what the resolution the Gecko can do? What > refresh rates? > > > >MPEG (640 x 480) 30 fps 30 fps > > > Can you make the window larger? Jeeze, my company is getting ripped off! We just bought a real-time MPEG encoder board for a PC, and it was about $20,000! Now tell me again how HP can put real time MPEG compression/decompression in a box that costs less than $4,000? [MUNCH signiture] Robert -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK 660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca (Eric Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: #9GXE benchmark Date: 20 Jan 1994 17:25:25 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hmeq5$f5i@tribune.usask.ca> Keywords: 486,Benchmarks Here are some benchmark results for our lab's first NEXTSTEP/FIP machine: GEC Computers Inc. 486-66/DX2 NICE motherboard 20 Mbyte RAM 256 kbyte cache #9GXE VLB video card (2Mbyte VRAM) DTP 2022 EISA SCSI controller Conner Peripherals 520 MByte SCSI HD Intel EtherExpress Ethernet card Logitech bus mouse So far (1 week) I'm fairly happy with the machine. Disappointments include: - The MAG 17" monitor has a little flicker even at 1024x768@72 Hz. I'm going to replace the 15-pin video cable with a BNC cable and see if that helps. - The #9GXE driver doesn't support color resolutions above 1024x768. By way of comparison I've included the benchmark results for a NeXTstation color (NS3.2, 16 Mbyte RAM). The 486 machine scores higher on *all* the NXBench tests -- even the infamous `Window' test. I'd like to hear how a similar machine equipped with an ATI Ultra Pro VLB video card compares with these results. Anyhow, here are the results: NXBench tests NeXTStation 486-DX2/66 ============================================================================= Dhrystone 26455 56179 line 0.61028 0.69418 arc/bezier 0.60509 0.64352 fill 0.45345 0.50071 transform 0.89939 1.33745 composite 0.47194 0.53213 userpath 1.02840 1.45226 text 0.35970 0.49028 window 0.31809 0.35453 -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Date: 20 Jan 1994 17:29:54 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Message-ID: <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> In-reply-to: mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com's message of 19 Jan 1994 11:02:29 -0500 In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: ADDITIONAL MEMORY --------------------------------- > 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 > 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 > 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 > 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 Ah, now I see where they make their money. These prices are about bloody ridiculous! INTERNAL STORAGE DEVICES --------------------------------- > 260 MB SCSI-2 470 > 525 MB SCSI-2 1,120 > 1 GB SCSI-2 1,995 They're SERIOUS?! Brian -- -------------- Brian Hook "Computer graphics: the only field in bwh@cis.ufl.edu computer science where if it looks right, then it IS right." -- paraphrase
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twetzel1@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Tim Wetzel ) Subject: Re: NeXTdimension...What is it? Message-ID: <278KBFTB@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <bchin.758943292@news.andi.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 15:36:47 GMT : both color stations and dimensions systems. The only gotcha is : that ADB turbo color workstations need the newer 17" trinitron --------------- ---------------------------- : that can handle the 72hz refresh rate. Slightly unrelated: is this really true? If I remember right, the FAQ states (in slight contradiction) that to use ADB, you need - _any_ turbo - ROM V74(?) or later (change if needed) - ADB monitor, keyboard, mouse, soundbox and monitor cable Well, I have a NSTC, ROM V74, old-style soundbox, keyboard, mouse, ADB-capable monitor cable (at least :-), and my FIMI is still alive. Apparently the stations can handle both 68Hz and 72Hz refresh rates, but how do they decide which to use? - monitor cable: apparently not - soundbox: sounds silly, since it is quite independent of the video stuff, but who knows... - monitor: it would be possible to use some connector pin to encode it, but what happens if you connect a 21" Hitachi or even a third party monitor using just the BNC connectors? BTW, my system originally had a 21" ADB monitor... Bottom line: my eyes would really appreciate 72Hz refresh rate. I know it's impossible with my current monitor, but in case I ever could/needed to get another... So, does any hardware inclined guy know whats happening here? sincerely, Timm Email: twetzel1@gwdg.de wetzel@msfd1h.gwdg.d
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: machang@random.uchicago.edu (Andrew ChinKwang Chang) Subject: Help: configuring modem Message-ID: <1994Jan20.182535.6985@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 18:25:35 GMT I'm new to modem and NeXT. Can anyone tell me how to configure modem for NeXT? I mean how to converse with modem and set up the initial strings, etc. Should I use "tip" as what was mentioned in the manual? Thanks for any help. Now I use kermit, not SLIP and PPP yet. -Andrew
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: lance@avalon.demon.co.uk ("Lance S. Buckley") Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> <759046033snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> <759067462snz@loncps.demon.co.uk> Organization: Least Significant Bit Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 16:04:50 +0000 Message-ID: <759081890snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759067462snz@loncps.demon.co.uk> Chris@loncps.demon.co.uk writes: > We were sort of thinking the same but we were brought up to be polite > and hospitable to visitors from foreign parts, so we let you stay here. :-) Since when have Londoners been hospitable and polite to foreigners? I've lived here most of my life, and as far as I can see, all we want is their money. Okay, okay, just because I was born in Hertfordshire doesn't make me a for'ner. As for letting me stay, ha! Gimme the money and you won't see me for dust. a lot of foriegn visitors (eg. .au or .nz) who do a bit of globe trotting in their youth, have told me that the UK is one of the toughest places to get out of. If you stay longer than a month, all of a sudden it's almost impossible to leave. A bit like jogging along the road admiring the scenery, then stopping to look at something along the way. When it's time to move on, you realise you stepped in some superglue and unless you try _very_ hard, you ain't goin' nowhere. Hm... I wonder who's going to be the first to say: "UK ,love it or leave it" I say: "UK, leave it? I'd love it" Lance (Financially Embarassed World Citizen and Free Spirit) -- Lance S. Buckley (LSB) lance@avalon.demon.co.uk Wanted: Cheap used merkin (dark brown), must have been recently fumigated. Will offer an unused wavefunction in part exchange. Never been used, one careful owner. A must see! [PGP 2.3a key available on request, and via keyserver]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) Subject: Why 51/4 diskdrive not supported ? Message-ID: <boonlow.759088748@sfu.ca> Sender: news@sfu.ca Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 17:59:08 GMT Hey all, Just got for my NS3.2 FIP few days ago. Inside the manual, it stated that NS only support1 3.5 diskdrive and if one has any 5.25 disk drive, it has to be disabled in the Bios. Seems strange that NS never expected 5.25 drive to be used by other OS in a Intel-based machines and expect it's users to turn off support for 5.25 while running NS and turn it on while running other OS ( DOS, OS/2 ) Is there a reasonable explanation for it and is there a way to go around to not turning off 5.25 support and still boot up NS ? Or, am I mistaken and there's already support for 5.25 already ? Thanks for anyone's advice/comments receive in advance. Regards, Ben.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (Pete French) Subject: NS for Intel + Quantum hard-disks Message-ID: <1994Jan20.154537.27601@ohm.york.ac.uk> Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 15:45:37 GMT So has anyone got NS483 to work with a quantum empire series 1GB drive ? We've got a completely standard config trying to run 3.1 and it just won't talk to the disk. I think that there is a problem with this drive because we have problems with certain SCSI cards under DOS, but if anyone can tell me magic jumper settings to make it work with NeXtSTEP then I'd be grateful. I'm on my 4th SCSI card this week and it's starting to hurt... -- -Pete French. (the -bat. ) -+ Wanted : Female hitching partner. Must have | looks to stop lorries at a single glance and Adaptive Systems Engineering | be able to sleep rough without spoiling her +- makeup or hair. Only UK goths need apply. :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (benjamin bernhard) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <CJxytE.Kz7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 18:46:24 GMT In article <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: >In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: > > ADDITIONAL MEMORY > --------------------------------- >> 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 >> 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 >> 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 >> 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 > >Ah, now I see where they make their money. These prices are about bloody >ridiculous! Do you remember Next's add-on prices? Equally high. HP is not in the business of selling ram or hard drives. Their value-added is not in sales, but in engeneering. > > INTERNAL STORAGE DEVICES > --------------------------------- >> 260 MB SCSI-2 470 >> 525 MB SCSI-2 1,120 >> 1 GB SCSI-2 1,995 > >They're SERIOUS?! > >Brian >-- >-------------- >Brian Hook "Computer graphics: the only field in >bwh@cis.ufl.edu computer science where if it looks right, > then it IS right." -- paraphrase -- __________________________________________________________________________ Ben Bernhard "Nothing that results from human progress 812/339-5304 (fax) is achieved with unanimous consent." bbernhar@cs.indiana.edu ---Christopher Columbus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? In-Reply-To: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Wed, 19 Jan 1994 12:57:04 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan20.184600.21284@ads.com> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300 References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 18:46:00 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: (and others write:) > In article <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) writes: > > This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer > > equipment in this country. > > > > First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your > > company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you > > get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in > > My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. Along > > ... OTHER POSTINGS > > Couldn't agree more. If we just finally got rid of that dang profit > ... etc. > Normally I would not have defended my post. However I think that I need to so that I may respectfully request that we put a STOP to this thread and take it to some other, perhaps political forum. Or if someone wants to argue politics email me directly. Since I started this side thread I apologize for the wasted bandwidth. I should have known that even mentioning "Reagan" would have touched a nerve. Second. I never mention the US in my post. Reagan was not only a US leader but a world leader. The American Conservative movement is part of a world movement, in particular it has origins in the UK (see "The Conservatives"). I was reporting the observation of a phenomenon in response to the original poster's question. And he will find that phenomenon in many countries. I simply do not remember vendors asking for your company name as a prerequisite before the Reagan era in any country. Furthermore I don't think one has to be anti-conservative or anti-profits in making this observation. Also my post said it was a theory not the truth. Looking for cause and effect can help if the cause is accurate. Beyond the cause I stick to my original post. I do not like being asked my company name as a prerequisite to purchasing equipment for my NeXT systems and in particular when in capacity as a non-company individual. And I do believe that we (including the vendors) would be better off without that prerequisite. What the hell is wrong with this WORLD! -- Bill Vrotney
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <CJxyMJ.9v@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <1994Jan20.160834.7738@ictv.com> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 18:42:17 GMT In article <1994Jan20.160834.7738@ictv.com> robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) writes: >>R S Rodgers writes >>> In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com>, >>> Mark Paul LeScoezec <ml@tsiny.psca.com> wrote: >> >>[MUNCH] >> >>> >Onboard MPEG hardware compression/decompression will display your >>> >realtime news and video feeds smoothly and quickly. >>> >>> >>> Does _anyone_ know what the resolution the Gecko can do? What >>> refresh rates? >>> >>> >>> >MPEG (640 x 480) 30 fps 30 fps >>> >>> >>> Can you make the window larger? >> >>Jeeze, my company is getting ripped off! We just bought a real-time MPEG >>encoder board for a PC, and it was about $20,000! >> >>Now tell me again how HP can put real time MPEG compression/decompression in a box that costs less than $4,000? >> 'Cause in the microcosm...transistors are free ;-) -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <CJxyoH.C8@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 18:43:28 GMT In article <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: >>In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: >> >> ADDITIONAL MEMORY >> --------------------------------- >>> 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 >>> 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 >>> 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 >>> 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 >> >>Ah, now I see where they make their money. These prices are about bloody >>ridiculous! >> >> INTERNAL STORAGE DEVICES >> --------------------------------- >>> 260 MB SCSI-2 470 >>> 525 MB SCSI-2 1,120 >>> 1 GB SCSI-2 1,995 >> >>They're SERIOUS?! >> >>Brian Does any of this bring back memories of how NeXT priced harddrives and memory when they were in the HW business ? -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: regarding drivers Date: 20 Jan 1994 20:20:00 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2hmp1g$q4d@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1994Jan20.033732.13355@news.cs.brandeis.edu> In article <1994Jan20.033732.13355@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, t.balasubramanian <balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu > wrote: >Hi, > We want to do simple slow IO with a NeXTStep Intel machine, along the >lines of "put this byte out to that IO port" and "read a byte from that IO >port". We expected some simple functions similar to outb() and inb() from >microsoft (DOS) c to exist, and, infact the "same" functions were found in >"\NextDeveloper\Headers\driverkit\i386\ioPorts.h". They include the >warning "Note: These functions work only at kernel level". Does this mean >that we must write some complex device driver ?. If so does the generic >version exist or any suggestions as to how to go about writing will be >appreciated. > > We tested our board to which we want to write or read by booting >the intel 486 to DOS and that works as we expected. But then we tried to >do the same thing by booting the system to NeXTStep with the above >mentioned ioPorts.h header file included and the application just quits >when we try to write to the port. > > We would greatly appreciate any suggestions from anyone familiar >with these as to what is it that we are missing here. If possible please >reply to balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu. > I don't think you will be able to do what you wish to do without some kind of driver. Dos is a completely unprotected computer enviornment. Programs are free to diddle with any port, byte or register in the system. Of course if they step on the wrong bit, the entire system comes to an immediate and not to graceful halt (Grock CTRL-ALT-DEL?). Nextstep (as well as OS/2, NT) are environments in which general user programs are not allowed to touch the computers hardware directly. Normally all requests for physical access go to the operating system, are checked to minimize the chance they will compromise the machine and then performed by the o/s via some driver or kernal function on behalf of the the user program. If the request is in some way illegal or improper that user program (and hopefully only) that program is terminated. The rest of the programs and the system will keep on going. Some operating systems have functions similiar to what you need to use, but generally restrict the use of the function to a special class of users. Its sometimes possible to get direct access to the ram memory under unix with the correct user class or permissions, but I/O ports are not memory mapped in the PC architecture (last time I bothered to check anyway). A driver to implement this on the Next shouldn't be all that difficult, but I'll let those with DriverKit experience speak to that point. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware From: patrick@wbar.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips) Subject: No NeXT news from Gekko rollout Message-ID: <1994Jan18.221103.12645@news.uta.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Texas at Arlington Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 22:11:03 GMT Well, I just got back from the HP announcement. I won't go into a lot of detail about what went on (too much droning on about new servers), but there was no mention of NeXT at all. However, I felt the presence of NeXT's influence in the background. The words "Mission Critical" must have been used at least eight times. HP was pushing the client-server model in a big way (they call it Enterprise Computing), and they talked a lot about ease of development, administration, and so on. They were just pushing HP Vue as the operating system to do all that. I'd imagine the lack of any mention of NeXT was because they don't have a NEXTSTEP product ready yet, and HP wanted the focus to be totally on them. They did announce, however, promotion agreements with Lotus for AmiPro and 123 under HP Vue (it would be nice if these could be rapidly converted over to NEXTSTEP at some point). The conclusion that I took away from this is that HP is preaching exactly the same message as NeXT, they just didn't mention the savior (in the spirit of some recent discussions in this group :-). I don't know enough about the business environment to know if everyone is saying the same thing and NeXT just jumped on the bandwagon, or if NeXT's big development lead time is helping to move things along. On the hardware end of things, the HP 712's (gekko's) look nice, but not everything that I was hoping for. The first report I heard on the net was for SPECfp=130 on the high end. There is no such machine. There are two models, both with SPECfp=79. The 712/60 has SPECint=58.1 and the 712/80i has SPECint=84.1. Apparently the 712/80i is optimized for integer work (it also has a 256KB cache versus 64KB for the 712/60), but has no gain in floating point performance. It also has much higher Xmarks for whatever that's worth. The graphics system is a little harder to peg (no pun intended). It looks like it's 8-bit with "virtual 24-bit" (HP Color Recovery), whatever that means. I forgot to ask more about this when I noticed it in the specs. Seems potentially weird and/or proprietary to make work as a general real-color system. Perhaps someone else can comfirm that this is not a true 24-bit system as had been reported. The graphics support is apparently built into the PA7100LC chip. MPEG is built into the board for 30/fps playback (they showed a video of Steve Young completing a pass about a minute faster on the 712 than on a Pentium). Price is under $4000 for a low end machine (15" screen, 250Mb drive), and they showed a high end machine for around $11,000 which they compared directly to comparably equipped SGI Indy and Pentium machines for less money and higher performance. It seems that HP is directly attacking Intel for the desktop. Personally I don't think that they will be able to do it in the short term except from the top down (selling the PC's with the servers) or if NEXTSTEP can catch some fire. They did announce a set of products called "Ready to Wear" software, which our local guy implied to mean "UNIX for idiots." I'd much rather have UNIX for smart people, which any idiot can use. I'm personally going to be looking back at an 735 and praying that NEXTSTEP will run on it. Patrick Phillips Biology Department University of Texas at Arlington patrick@wbar.uta.edu (NeXTmail) phil@decster.uta.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: wsk:Group purchase 2GB SCSI tape, Wangtek 6200HS Date: 20 Jan 1994 20:35:44 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2hmpv0$qg9@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <CJrFKv.25K@well.sf.ca.us> Keywords: Status tape drive tapedrive SCSI In article <CJrFKv.25K@well.sf.ca.us>, Bill Kaster <wsk@well.sf.ca.us> wrote: >Here is a status message about the 2GB SCSI tape drive group purchase >that I'm organizing right now. Many people are intereseted, but we >need a couple more tens of people to get us over the final price >break. We have 46 very firm yeses and another 20 yeses. If we can >get over 80 drives ordered, we can get the base price down to $369. > > >Regards, > >-Bill Kaster >wsk@well.sf.ca.us Has anyone used this Tape Drive under NS/I? Any war stories? -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.admin Subject: DEC DSP3210S formatted without partitions? Date: 20 Jan 1994 21:16:38 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2hmsbm$4gk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Well, here I am, nice drive, no format :-( disk barfs with the following error: # disk -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: DEC DSP3210S disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label boot block extends beyond front porch and newfs reports: # newfs /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 seek error: 2098711 wtfs: Error 0 scsimodes gets the following info: # scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: DEC DSP3210S 512 bytes per sector 86 sectors per track 16 tracks per cylinder 3045 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 16 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 4197519 usable sectors on volume As far as I can see there are more 512 byte blocks than the system can handle without partitions (max = 4,194,304 512 byte blocks). So my options are either partition (which I would like to avoid), somehow convince the system that the disk is slightly smaller (disktab?) or change the block size to 1024 bytes. Any suggestions and / or success stories? Thanks in advance! -- Fernando nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU) Subject: Re: CD-ROM drives on a NeXTstation Message-ID: <1994Jan20.211143.26144@rob.cs.tu-bs.de> Organization: Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik, TU-Braunschweig References: <CJw7DA.KL9@unix.portal.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 21:11:43 GMT eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) writes: >Does anyone have direct experience plugging an NEC 74 >drive into a NeXT via a SCSI-II to SCSI-I adapter cable? >A list of CD-ROM drives known to work well with the NeXT would be very >helpful, too. Hi, FAQ in comp.sys.next says: *** Subject: D8. What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT? A USENET survey summary: Apple CD-150 PLI 1035N CD-ROM for NeXT! SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a) NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.) Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism) Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers) Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech Toshiba 3201 CD-ROM Toshiba 3301 CD-ROM Toshiba TXM3301E1 CD-ROM Toshiba XM-2200A external CD-ROM DENON DRD-253 external CD-ROM (data only, no music) HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box) I myself use an Apple CD-150, works fine so far, the only thing: to play audio CDs I have to use another CD-player.app. bye, Martin -- Martin Pruefer, DL8OAU, mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de | Tel: +49 531 / 391-7453 Institute for Robotics and Computer Control | Fax: +49 531 / 391-5696 Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, FRG |
From: buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bastian Schlueter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Does Conner 525ES Streamer work with NeXtstation? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 20 Jan 1994 22:26:07 GMT Organization: Berlin University of Technology Message-ID: <2hn0e2$6si@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Everybody, I have a good offer for Conner 525ES Streamer, and want to know if anyone had any experience with this thing on a NeXTstation. (Or knows whether or not it works) Greetings Bastian -- Bastian Schlueter TEL.: +49 030 / 693 49 26 (priv) Urbanstr. 25 Aufg. E 691 54 79 (Fax/Data) __o D-10967 Berlin 314 25 973 (uni) _`\<,_ Germany e-mail: buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (_)/ (_)
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: SInglis@bcde.demon.co.uk (Steven Inglis) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> <759046033snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> <759067462snz@loncps.demon.co.uk> <759081890snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 23:44:55 +0000 Message-ID: <759109495snz@bcde.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759081890snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> lance@avalon.demon.co.uk "Lance S. Buckley" writes: [stuff deleted] > When >it's time to move on, you realise you stepped in some superglue >and unless you try _very_ hard, you ain't goin' nowhere. > Look again its not superglue, its a new privately owned clamp... Steven -- +--------------+----------------------+--------------------------------+------+ |Steven Inglis | S A I | Computing Department :- | ^~~^ | +--------------+----------------------+ Bugs written while U wait | o o | |Internet : Singlis@bcde.demon.co.uk| | "" | +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------+------+ | =========================== PGP 2.3 available =========================== | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kamundse@flute.aix.calpoly.edu (Wonder Twin #1) Subject: NeXT laser printer + Mac = ? Message-ID: <1994Jan21.000609.111815@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 00:06:09 GMT I have a NeXT laser printer for my Cube and I was wondering if there is any way to make it work on my Macintosh LC II as well. If anyone knows if this can be done, please let me know. Feel free to respond by email or by posting, I check both. Thanks -Kristin -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ kamundse@flute.aix.calpoly.edu "Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before." -S. Wright
From: sela@iastate.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help needed, DRAM problem Date: 21 Jan 1994 00:10:55 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hn6if$bnm@news.iastate.edu> I've got a dimension board that's got all of it's DRAM slots full. The SIMMS are aparently 1meg since I have 8meg DRAM. Anyway, I recently got an 8meg SIMM (72-pin etc, ie right specs for DRAM) from 1st Tech Corporation. I took out one of the one meg SIMMS and installed the 8 meg SIMM, but I'm still getting a reading of only 8 megs. What's going on here? -- *******************IOWA***STATE***UNIVERSITY******************** * Brian Morrison sela@iastate.edu (NeXT Mail welcome!) * * --------------------------------------------------------- * * He who throws mud loses ground. * ****************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: auyeung@ole_miss.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cheung Auyeung) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 18:24:12 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan20.182412.12553@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> References: <2hjsc5$5jt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2hk5me$4hj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Sender: auyeung@ole_miss (Cheung Auyeung) >I feel like a moron for asking, but, since a NeXTStation is so much LIKE a Mac >couldn't one install NeXTStep ON a Mac? I mean, why not? >Someone refute my claim! The Quadras 840Av look very much like the NeXT Cube. If NeXTStep is available today on the Quadras, I'll get them NoW. It is too much work to figure out what configurations of Intel machines can run NeXTStep. Cheung
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) Subject: Anyone had any experience with NEXTSTEP on IBM Pentium? Message-ID: <1994Jan20.234947.5475@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 23:49:47 GMT The Subject says it all. -- Kenny Leung University of Alberta kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca Ph: 403-492-9343 Fax: 403-492-1729 |------------------------------------------------|\ iversity of Alberta kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca Ph: 403-492-9343 Fax: 403-492-1729 |---------------------------------
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DEC DSP3210S formatted without partitions? Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 20:28:34 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ghDmz2C00iUyQ7tXk=@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2hmsbm$4gk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Jan-94 DEC DSP3210S formatted with.. by Fernando L. Lezcano@ccrm > As far as I can see there are more 512 byte blocks than the system can > handle without partitions (max = 4,194,304 512 byte blocks). So my options > are either partition (which I would like to avoid), somehow convince the > system that the disk is slightly smaller (disktab?) or change the block > size to 1024 bytes. Any suggestions and / or success stories? I have also had problems convincing NEXTSTEP (3.0) to correctly format a device larger than 2GB with 512 byte blocks. I've tried with a Seagate Barracuda and a large Fujitsu, both weighing in at about 3GB (+/- 100MB). I'd suggest reformatting with 1024 byte blocks and seeing what happens. -Chuck Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly. --------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/intel SCSI performance. Message-ID: <Jan.20.21.17.09.1994.20762@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 21 Jan 94 02:17:09 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, Im wondering what other people with DPT 2012 controllers are experiencing in the way of DiskPerformance.app results. I have taken a huge performance hit. I have a Wren VIII and on my ND turbo, I get a 1.2 writes and 1.1 reads (2.88 reads when the cache is working, i.e. with 32megs or more). On the intel, however, with the same exact HD, performance goes down to 0.6 writes, and 1.1reads (no matter how much memory). Now, Im positive that an EISA system should do more than 400k writes!!! So, Im wondering how the more successful of you got your DPT's and HD's working to achieve better results? Maybe some EISA Config settings? Maybe special IRQ DMA settings? I also have a CDROM and OD attatched, but that shouldn't make a difference. Everything is seemingly terminated corectly. I guess the ideal would be with some one else with a DPT and a segate Wren VIII (model # st41650)--the 1.4/1.6 gig model. Hopefully some one will help me get my HD working faster than my CDROM!!! :-) Thanks, Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: What Happened To Success Stories? Message-ID: <1994Jan21.020714.2564@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 02:07:14 GMT Back when NS/FIP 3.1 came out, someone offered to collect success stories for getting the system up. Now that I'm shopping for white hardware, those stories would come in handy. [eCesys, please don't post an ad -- I already know about you.] Where are they? Are they being continuously updated, or is that something I should volunteer to do (at least until I've got my own system! :-)? I'm particularly interested in non-Certified P5 (Pentium) success stories. Has anyone tried the Ambra P5? It has a built-in SCSI adapter, which would normally mean no-go, but the Ambra ad claims "full Adaptec compatability (it's the same chip)", whatever that means. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flash!jon@dsi.com Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? References: <CJxyoH.C8@dvorak.amd.com> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 01:39:21 GMT In article <CJxyoH.C8@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: > Does any of this bring back memories of how NeXT priced harddrives and memory > when they were in the HW business ? > So what lesson have we learned in class today? That's right! If you buy a Gecko, buy the barest machine you can and fill it with RAM and HD's from third parties. :) - jon -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Date: 20 Jan 1994 21:48:59 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2hnfqr$t5t@panix2.panix.com> References: <CJxyoH.C8@dvorak.amd.com> <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> Third party memory and HDs may not work with the HP 712. In <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> flash!jon@dsi.com writes: >In article <CJxyoH.C8@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy >x(Coop)) writes: >> Does any of this bring back memories of how NeXT priced harddrives and memory >> when they were in the HW business ? >> >So what lesson have we learned in class today? >That's right! >If you buy a Gecko, buy the barest machine you can and fill it with RAM and >HD's from third parties. :) >- jon >-- >Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting >tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: HD bracket for cube Message-ID: <1994Jan20.200202.1028@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <CJw3nz.32M@world.std.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 20:02:02 GMT In article <CJw3nz.32M@world.std.com> harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell) writes: > Does anyone know where I can get a HD bracket for my cube. I > tried Bell Atlantic and they said they did not have any. > > harry > > harryt@world.std.com > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > harryt@world.std.com All comments are my own and > tirrellh@novavax.nova.edu bare no relationship to any Hi harry, You could use any 3.5" to 5.25" frame converter from any PC hardware supplier (you will have to remove the front plate which is a little bit larger). -- ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: vw7511@csc.albany.edu (Vichai W. (Meng)) Subject: Problem with 1280x1024 mode in Nanao Flexscan F550i-W Message-ID: <1994Jan21.031323.7256@sarah.albany.edu> Originator: vw7511@thor.albany.edu Sender: news@sarah.albany.edu (News Administrator) Organization: State University of New York at Albany Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 03:13:23 GMT My graphics card is ATI GUP VLB. In NS/FIP 3.2, I selected the resolution of 1280x1024@60Hz (grey scale) which is possible for my monitor. When I restarted, the screen was terribly shaking as if my monitor could not handle such resolution mode. :( Is there anything wrong with either ATI or Nanao monitor? How can I reconfig the resolution mode? (Since the screen was shaking, I could not see clearly what is displayed in the screen) By the way, I could make it work at 1180x832@68Hz (color). Any ideas? Thank you very much Vichai W.
From: markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adding a USR Sportster FAX modem Date: 21 Jan 1994 04:26:37 GMT Organization: University of California, at Berkeley Message-ID: <2hnlht$q06@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all, I want to be able to use my US Robotics 14.4 FAX/Modem's fax capabilities with NEXTSTEP. I'm running NS 3.2 for intel. I don't need any extra capabilities beyond what NS offers with printing and FaxReader - I just need it to support my modem. Anyone know the solution to my problem? Any help would be very appreciated. Mark Frohnmayer markf@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) Subject: Using North American NeXT and peripherals in Europe Message-ID: <1994Jan21.040723.26497@cs.sfu.ca> Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 04:07:23 GMT Hi: Can someone tell me what power supply difficulties there are in running a North American NeXT, printer, modem, tape drive and external hard drive in Europe. Can you run all of the above off a surge protector run through some kind of electrical power converter? Thanks very much, - Dan Fass
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) Subject: Internal vs external large hard drives Message-ID: <1994Jan21.041552.26602@cs.sfu.ca> Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 04:15:52 GMT Thanks to those of you who replied by e-mail to my post about buying a Fujitsu M2694F 1.2GB hard drive for my NeXT Turbo. I obtained some very useful information from Brad Sime of Hardware Support, Bell Atlantic, who I spoke with on Tuesday. He gave me permission to post notes of our conversation on the comp.sys.next newsgroups. Brad said that the hard drive should be no more than 1.5" high to allow for decent air circulation around it. There might be some heat problems with internal installation because larger hard drives do generate some heat. He thought it unlikely that the NeXT's electronics would be affected, but that internal installation might shorten the life of the hard drive. He gave the following specifications that any hard drive must meet to be installed in a NeXT computer. The drive must support the following SCSI commands and revisions: 1. it must support the inquiry and read capacity commands, 2. the drive must conform to ANSI SCSI revision 17B or greater, 3. the drive must have 10 byte read and write command blocks, 4. the drive sector size must be either 512 or 1024 bytes (to work with the NeXT's file system). ------- Dan Fass
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: NICE MB can make your 33/66 into a 40/80? Message-ID: <Jan.21.00.29.35.1994.1830@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 21 Jan 94 05:29:36 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Welp, since the Nice Super Eisa Rev 1 motherboard comes with a setable clock rate (anywher from 25mhz to 80mhz) i thought I might be able to boost the performance of my machine (much like mac's clock rates are being boosted). Plus I figure I have 3 fans and a fan on the chip so it might just work. And it does, kinda. In dos everything works great! Things do run faster, but since I'm running NEXTSTEP, Im having problems...Namely, I think it has to do with the memory settings, and bus speed settings, under the "Advanced Chipset Options" in the AMI BIOS. Now I have 60ns memory, so I think that is fast enough to work @ 40/80mhz. So Im looking for some one who may have done this already, and has the proper settings all done. OR, it would be great if some one could give me the phone # for NICE motherboards and I can call them up myself. If I get this going, I'll post my results up to the net. But for now, if some one can give me Nice's phone # ... :) I guess I'll be one step closer to winning those extra 14Mhz ;) Thanks, Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <1994Jan21.085450.2042@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 08:54:50 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> Distribution: usa Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> writes: > In article <CJxyoH.C8@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy > x(Coop)) writes: > > > Does any of this bring back memories of how NeXT priced harddrives and memory > > when they were in the HW business ? > > > > So what lesson have we learned in class today? > > That's right! > > If you buy a Gecko, buy the barest machine you can and fill it with RAM and > HD's from third parties. :) > > - jon > -- > Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting > tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps Provided they use 'standard' RAM and not something special ... -Robert -- Robert Frank tel. +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15 University of Basel, Switzerland Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: #9GXE benchmark Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 04:33:13 EST Organization: Delphi Internet Message-ID: <940121.16393.ECESYS@delphi.com> References: <2hmeq5$f5i@tribune.usask.ca> Eric: By way of reference, The Wingine scores at 1024x768x16 bit color are: NXBench tests eCesys - 486 ================================================ Dhrystone 60120 line 0.75839 arc/bezier 0.72687 fill 0.54536 transform 1.66271 composite 0.63782 userpath 1.62261 text 0.52912 window 0.32431
From: rcjacq@urc.tue.nl (Jacques Backus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus 5428 VLB (2MB): color ???? Date: 21 Jan 1994 09:39:42 GMT Organization: Computing Center, Eindhoven University of Technology Message-ID: <rcjacq.47.0@urc.tue.nl> With 16 MB memory and a Cirrus 5428 VLB (2 MB) video card, it should be possible to get some colors on my screen, I though. But nope, just BW. NS 3.2 has a generic CL542X driver and maybe I should edit the configuration file. Does anyone know what to do ? Jacques. Jacques Backus Internet: rcjacq@urc.tue.nl Eindhoven University of Technology Tel. : (+40- 47)4588 Computing Center Room : RC 1.26
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Using North American NeXT and peripherals in Europe Message-ID: <1994Jan21.083555.11360@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1994Jan21.040723.26497@cs.sfu.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 08:35:55 GMT In article <1994Jan21.040723.26497@cs.sfu.ca> fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) writes: > Hi: > > Can someone tell me what power supply difficulties there are in running a > North American NeXT, printer, modem, tape drive and external hard drive in > Europe. Can you run all of the above off a surge protector run through > some kind of electrical power converter? The NeXT has a switchable power supply, and the NeXT laser has an internal switch to swap voltages. US models of both will work in Europe with no special precautions. Everything else depends upon the equipment and where you are going to. Most of Europe doesn't have the problem with power smoothness that the US has, so we don't often use surge protection. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Hub-less Ethernet (was: Re: 128meg MO drive vs 105meg removable?) Message-ID: <CJzALt.Do5@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <QhDAazy00iUyACv2EB@andrew.cmu.edu> <2himcu$h0v@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 11:58:41 GMT In article <2himcu$h0v@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> jgs@hadron.merit.edu (John G. Scudder) writes: [ ] > >Another option, cheaper still, is to use 10BaseT, but use a wire which >has been wired "backwards" to connect the two machines. As I >understand it, if the pins on one end are reversed, you can wire two >(though no more than two) 10BaseT stations together to form a hubless >network. I haven't tried this myself (yet). I have used this "test wire" case. Works fine (for 2). >The initial poster's objection still holds for a three (or more) node >network, but not for the two node case. (Using Thinnet would still >work for a three node (or whatever-small-number node) network.) -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Marianne Kern (kernm@lfgms.logica.com) Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all? Message-ID: <CJzDMG.CJn@carmen.logica.co.uk> Sender: news@carmen.logica.co.uk (News Manager Account) Organization: Logica Ltd. References: <2fclis$kcv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 13:03:52 GMT In article <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald) writes: >L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote: > >: One thing I don't understand is the use of ATI graphics. >: It is pretty much universally cited as being slower than >: several other offerings, yet builders of NS/Intel >: systems use it fairly often. Why? Economics? >: Hidden virtues? Hype? > >My graphics card of choice is still the ATI -- even if it isn't >the fastest thing going anymore. Fact is, it's supported by more >operating systems than any other card on the market, and it isn't >exactly slow either (except for moving windows in NeXTStep). I >typically run several operating systems on my machines even though >they typically run one system 95% of the time. It's nice to be able >to start a different OS and still have a fully capable machine. > >Now that I'm hooked on NeXTStep, I would love to get a nice fast >card and dedicate a machine to it -- but what should I buy? Right >now there just isn't anything good on the market, that is supported >by NeXTStep AND is significantly faster than the ATI. > >Joe Fitzgerald >Network Systems and Services > Speaking from what I heard from a friend who saw it in action: The Wingine on a Lucky Goldstar box is blindingly fast! The box that was demoed to him ran NeXTSTEP, Solaris, OS/2 and Windows simultaneously with no detriment to performance. The NeXTSTEP windows simply slid across the screen immaculately.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nkawai@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Nobuyuki Kawai) Subject: DEC DSP3210S Message-ID: <NKAWAI.94Jan21232646@rkna50.riken.go.jp> Sender: news@rkna50.riken.go.jp (News Administrator) Organization: Institute of Physical & Chemical Research (RIKEN) Saitama,Japan. Distribution: comp Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 14:26:46 GMT Has anyony sucessfully hooked up and used DEC DSP3210S hard disk (2GB) with a NeXTstation or Cube? I just connected it to a NeXT. It makes a new file system, and it seems to be automatically mounted to /dev/sd1b. But it fails somehow, after /usr/etc/newf is run, during /etc/mkfs, we got error: "seek er 2098663" and "wtfs ERROR 0". Thanks, Nobu -- $@2O9g@?G7(J Nobuyuki Kawai RIKEN
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Xerox DocuTech 135 Date: 21 Jan 1994 16:29:04 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <2hovsg$er7@genesis.ait.psu.edu> Howdy, A person here needs to know if the Xerox DocuTech 135 print option works (well) under NEXTSTEP 3.2. using the serial port and an Intel machine. Any comments? Thanks much, Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) Subject: Replacement Monitor for Colorstation Message-ID: <CJyL7L.Csy@pdh.com> Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account) Organization: PDH, Inc. Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 02:50:08 GMT In case anyone is interested, we just hooked up a slightly older (circa 1990) Sun workstation 19" color monitor (Hitachi-made) to a NeXT Colorstation (to replace my busted FIMI) and it worked very well. My monitor guy had to fool with the sync a bit but once it locked up, it was totally stable. I would guess the tube is about .28mm dot pitch. It is slightly spherical (unfortunately not flat like a Trinitron). Because of the different scan rate, it will only adjust to cover about 90% of the visible width of the tube (leaving about 3/4" of black on each side). The visible height can be adjusted to cover almost edge-to-edge but at this level, there is some aspect-ratio distortion. Leaving a 1/2" black band on the top and the bottom created a nice screen image, about 20% larger in area than my 17" monitor with good edge and center focus, no ghosting, brilliant colors (although not as nice as a Trinitron but MUCH better than my old FIMI) and crisp blacks. Whereas on the FIMI, I could only use about 14pt Courier without straining my eyes (I have the eyesight of a 42-year old, because I am, sigh, 42 years old :-) and Helvetica 12pt Bold was marginal, on this 19" monitor, 12pt Helvetica bold and medium are easy to read, even 10 pt is pretty readable, and Courier 12 pt is a cinch. This will substantially "increase" my screen real estate, particularly when editing. Jon Rosen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Corps) Subject: Re: Annoying constant background hiss in my Slab --- Any ideas? Message-ID: <1994Jan21.162136.4600@cs.sfu.ca> Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada References: <2hk969$a4p@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 16:21:36 GMT In article <2hk969$a4p@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes: >Hi, > >I cannot recall how long this has been the case, but my 1991 slab has an >annoying constant background hiss, as if made by an errant fan, but I see no >outlet for a fan. Has anyone any ideas and/or helpful hints? Is this a costly >problem under the new NeXT hardware support? > nah, this should really be fairly simple. First of all: there IS an outlet for a fan - turn your slab over (not when it's running!) and look at the long cooling fins that run from front to rear on the bottom of your slab, (on the left side) at the end of the fins (closest to the front) there is an opening through which you should be able to see the fan. I believe this is the air outlet, the air intake is through the rear panel holes and a series of holes along the bottom sides of the slab. Second: disconnect all the cables from the slab - undo the black screw on the back panel, this will allow you to remove the top cover and inspect the fan, you can reconnect the power cable if you're worried about ESD, in fact you could even try running the computer with the cover off so you can stop the fan with your fingers for a few seconds to see if it's causing the noise. At this time you could also put your ear to the hard disk drive if the fan isn't the culpit. Third: your problem may be noise coming through the speaker on your monitor, but I doubt it, email me if it's not your slab. Finally: this shouldn't be a costly problem under the new NeXT hardware support, I believe that Bell Atlantic's prices are close if not the same as NeXTs were (for replacement parts, etc.) - but why did you wait so long to get this looked at? --Peter
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCI bus drives Date: 21 Jan 1994 18:11:24 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Message-ID: <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Has anyone been able to load NeXTstep on a PCI local bus drive. Dr. David D. Riley (Dave) Acting Director of Academic Computing University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, WI 54601
From: rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: It works!! Dell --error Date: 21 Jan 1994 18:40:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <2hp7j9$l45@news.bu.edu> Some of you sent me email to which I responded, but I made an incorrect claim. The monitor I listed NEC multisync 5FGP 17" has a maximum resolution of 1280 x 1024 not 2k x 1k. Sorry for any confusion. Ray Gasser rayg@cs.bu.edu
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rael@midnight.demon.co.uk ("Rael A. Fenchurch") Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> <759046033snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> <759067462snz@loncps.demon.co.uk> <759081890snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> Organization: Midnight Corporation Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 07:18:50 +0000 Message-ID: <759136730snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759081890snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> lance@avalon.demon.co.uk "Lance S. Buckley" writes: >Since when have Londoners been hospitable and polite to >foreigners? I've lived here most of my life, and as far as I >can see, all we want is their money. Quite right too. Actually, I have a plan for when I get into Government to keep tourists down to manageable levels. I think they should all be fitted with unreomoveable exploding collars when they get to customs, a bit like the collars used on the prisoners at the beginning of "The Running Man". Then we can put radio beacons up in certain areas of London which was caused the collars to explode if a tourist came too close and thus set up Londoner-only areas of London. Also, the collars could have mercury tilt switches in them which would cause the collar to explode if the tourist suddenly stopped whilst walking, or turned ninety degrees without going through all the intervening degrees (especially whilst looking the other way). We could then pay the unemployed to fleece the bodies for their wallets (25% scavengers fee) and clear them away, thus cutting unemployment also. Good eh? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Rael A. Fenchurch (rael@midnight.demon.co.uk) (2:254/401@fidonet.org) --- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Another Intel success story Date: 21 Jan 1994 15:11:05 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <24012115133104@wishep.physics.wisc.edu> Two weeks ago I got a machine at a local hardware integrator which I had ordered at the end of December. NEXTSTEP 3.2 runs on it beautifully (with a few quirks, but nothing major). I thought I would describe it to the net to encourage people and to ask some questions. The machine is a 486DX2/66 EISA/VESA machine with a Taiwanese motherboard, SIS chipset and AMI BIOS. It has a 256K write-back cache and 16MB of RAM. Since the machine is at home, I decided to get a reasonably priced 1GB SCSI harddrive and the Adaptec 1540C controller. The drive is partitioned into 200MB DOS/800MB NS. The graphics adaptor is the ATi Graphics Ultra Pro VLB Rev. 6. I called ATi and got the scoop on how to tell revision 6 from revision 3: the BIOS # is 113119509 for rev. 6, but is 113119500 for rev. 3. So, the machine does the same resolution (1120 x 832) as the original NeXTstations. I looked at two monitors, the ADP 17" and the Nanao 550i 17". I decided that the Nanao was preferable. The really nice thing is that, after hearing from a couple people on the net that the Fujitsu 2511A magneto-optical drive worked with NEXTSTEP, I took the chance and got one. It does work well under NEXTSTEP: it's reasonably fast, a single disk holds 128MB (the workspace says its limit is 113MB, but that's after all the overhead stuff is put on...) and the disks are more robust than tape or floppies. Backups are easy: just drag and drop, merging the new folder with the old. (The cost is quite reasonable as well: ~$790 for the drive and ~$30 each for the media.) Furthermore, with SCSI removable drives, like the MO or a CD-ROM, you don't have to "check for disks" in the menu: it automatically mounts the disk when you insert it and it automatically ejects the disk when you "eject disk". It's kinda like a huge NeXT floppy drive. The machine is definitely hampered by having only 16MB of RAM; it swaps a fair amount. Other than that, it's about as fast as the old non-turbo color 16MB NeXTstations in everything but computation, where it's seems faster. The video and opening and closing of windows is slower than the turbo color stations, but I would hope that some of this would be fixed by adding RAM. Now for the quirks. The magneto-optical drive will not read DOS formatted MO disks, nor will it format them. I don't know why. It will format in Macintosh, and such MO disks show up as removable Mac hard disk icons. In NeXT format, the disks show up as remote SCSI disk icons. If anyone knows why this is so, I would be pleased to learn. The second quirk is that floppy disks sometimes (about a time out of 20) take several tries before they will mount, each time saying that the disk is unreadable. I just eject and try again. Sometimes they unmount oddly as well, leaving a question-mark icon on the shelf, or cause internal error 35000 (whatever that is!), prompting the machine to ask me if I want to continue or logout. Perhaps this is a hardware problem; I have noticed that upon bootup the message FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:StrayInterrupt shows up three or four times. Again, if anyone has any insight to share, I'd really appreciate it. None of these problems is bad enough to really irritate me, but my curiosity is piqued and I would like to fix them if they are fixable. Ted Allen High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) Subject: Re: Next printer jamming Message-ID: <CK013G.Hpp@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: The Geometry Center, University of Minnesota References: <2hmao2INNjqb@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 21:23:38 GMT In article <2hmao2INNjqb@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, Allen Y. Tien <allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu> wrote: >Does anyone know how to fix a NeXT printer that won't feed paper in more >than about 1/3 of the sheet before jamming? This just started happening a We just had a printer cured of this problem...the roller that first grabs the sheet expects to spin 1 revolution to get the sheet into the set of rollers just before the corona discharge wires. Ours was worn smooth. The repairman replaced that first roller (about 1.5 inch diameter, surface includes some flat indentations) with the similar roller used in Apple LW-II-NTX and it now works great. The roller costs about $25 and our service call added about $50... looked like it shouldn't be too hard to do it yourself if you're inclined. Scott S. Bertilson --
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DEC DSP3210S 2.1Gbyte drive formatted! Date: 21 Jan 1994 21:53:11 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2hpis7$gqv@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2hmsbm$4gk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> First of all thanks to all that responded to my query. Ok, here's the story on how I finally got the drive running. The problem was the drive would not initialize and disk was giving the following error: # disk -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: DEC DSP3210S disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label boot block extends beyond front porch Somebody from the Net pointed out that the maximum number of blocks that could be handled by the OS was 4,194,304 while the number reported by scsimodes for this drive is 4197519. The result is that the software tries to seek to an unreachable sector when the command mkfs is executed (disk calls newfs which calls mkfs). In my case: # newfs /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 seek error: 2098711 wtfs: Error 0 I could not partition the drive using disk (same error message) and I couldn't change the block size to 1024, at least not with the utilities I tried. It seems (as someone suggested) that the drive is designed that way and the physical formatting block size cannot be changed. I suppose the utilities did not try to change just the logical sector size and I did not have the information to interpret the output of the scsitools sense program (anyone out there know where to get that information?). Anyway, the solution was to just discard the unreachable blocks which means I loose a very small part of the drive (something like 1.5MBytes I think). To do that I issued the command: # newfs -v /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2098712 43 16 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s seek error: 2098711 wtfs: Error 0 which gives me the parameters that were selected for the call to mkfs. I changed the number of blocks to reflect what I think is the maximum and issued the modified command as in: # /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2097152 43 16 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s Warning: 2048 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 4465 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 560 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 2097152 sectors in 3049 cylinders of 16 tracks, 43 sectors 2147.5Mb in 191 cyl groups (16 c/g, 11.27Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 11072, 22128, 33184, 44240, 55296, 66352, 77408, 88464, 99520, 110576, 121632, 132688, 143744, 154800, 165856, 176144, 187200, 198256, 209312, 220368, 231424, 242480, 253536, 264592, 275648, 286704, 297760, 308816, 319872, 330928, 341984, 352272, 363328, 374384, 385440, 396496, 407552, 418608, 429664, ....... The file system built succesfully and the drive seems to be working just fine... Thanks again to those who responded and hope this helps! -- Fernando nando@ccrma.stanford.edu PS: I would not know what to do with a 3Gbyte drive with the same problem! Should have 1024 byte blocks to work...
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: tim@fingal.demon.co.uk (tim cambridge) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> <CEDMAN.94Jan19075706@capitalist.princeton.edu> <759046033snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> <759067462snz@loncps.demon.co.uk> <759081890snz@avalon.demon.co.uk> <759136730snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> Organization: hammond Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 20:58:09 +0000 Message-ID: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759136730snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> rael@midnight.demon.co.uk "Rael A. Fenchurch" writes: === snip --- >areas of London which was caused the collars to explode if a tourist came >too close and thus set up Londoner-only areas of London. Also, the collars >could have mercury tilt switches in them which would cause the collar to >explode if the tourist suddenly stopped whilst walking, or turned ninety >degrees without going through all the intervening degrees (especially whilst >looking the other way). We could then pay the unemployed to fleece the bodies >for their wallets (25% scavengers fee) and clear them away, thus cutting >unemployment also. > >Good eh? > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- Rael A. Fenchurch (rael@midnight.demon.co.uk) (2:254/401@fidonet.org) --- >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Do you work for Cllr Beacon? -- Tim Cambridge KENT U.K.
From: jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim Robinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Message-ID: <2hphht$1sm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: 21 Jan 94 21:30:37 GMT References: <2h7num$3e2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. >And where will you get a good word processor for a black machine, >pray tell? One that is supported? My opinion would be to get a >white machine and install both DOS/Windows and NeXTSTEP. NeXTSTEP, >IMHO, is for software development (custom applications) at this >moment in time. If a groundswell occurs in the next year or so, >there might be a resurgence in shrink-wrap apps, but that is a ways >out in the future. Use Windows - uggh - and Microsoft Word and Has TeX been ported to NEXTSTEP for intel? I realize most people want real word processors, but the article made me wonder, since I use TeX for writing, and have been thinking about moving to NEXTSTEP if I can afford it. On the side, my setup now is: 486SX/25MHz (ugghh) 8 Megs RAM (triple uggghh) 540MB IDE 12ms HD 8514/A clone 1 Meg Video Card 1024x768 80MHz Monitor If I upgrade RAM to say 24 or 32 Megs, will the slow processor still kill me? Jim
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: WiSH@dumain.demon.co.uk (Bill Hay) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <759014831snz@scot.demon.co.uk> Organization: WiSH Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 00:37:17 +0000 Message-ID: <759112637snz@dumain.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759014831snz@scot.demon.co.uk> craig@scot.demon.co.uk "Craig Cockburn" writes: > > It is trivial, and completely legal to set yourself up as a "sole > trader". All you need to do is print some stationary with your name > and either "trading as <unique company name>" or simply ^^^^^^^firm > "Proprietor: <your name>". Hey presto, you now have your own business > and you don't even need to register it. This also allows you to join -- Bill Hay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Subject: anyone use US Robotic FAXModem successful ? Message-ID: <CK03K8.Duv@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Sender: news@noose.ecn.purdue.edu (USENET news) Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 22:24:07 GMT I am choosing a moden from followins: 1. Supra FaxModem V.32bis 2. Supra FaxModem 144LC 3. US Robotics Sportster 14400. Does somebody fail to use one of the above modem ? If you have a used one want to sell or you know where I can buy it at low price, I will very appreciate your offer or recommendation. Thanks in advance, Chun-Yen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bjanzen@lexmark.com Subject: RS423 serial ports available? Sender: usenet@lexmark.com Message-ID: <16F4510A65.BJANZEN@lexmark.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 23:56:36 GMT Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY Loved those RS423 serial ports in Black - is there a white box or a board w/ driver available yet with RS423. Barry Janzen bjanzen@lexmark.com NeXTMail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scorley@advtech.uswest.com Subject: Disktab for a Quantum ProDrive 1225S out there? Message-ID: <1994Jan21.235753.9430@advtech.uswest.com> Sender: news@advtech.uswest.com (Radio Free Boulder) Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 23:57:53 GMT Does anyone have a Quantum PD 1225S Disktab I can use (or any other ideas) so that my slab will talk to it? Several of us have spent a week trying to initialize the Quantum using everything from formatter, TheFormatter, scsiinfo, articles, and mental telepathy - can't do it! The drive works fine with a MAC, Sun, and even an Intel NS, but not a 92 TuboColor slab. I booted up with it initialized as a MAC drive and as soon as I tried to drag a file to it, it failed with write errors. Does the same thing when you try to initialize it using "disk," "formatter," "TheFormatter," "BuildDisk," etc. Of course everytime you turn the system on it wants to ignore, initialize, or repair it too, but fails (9 times). I used the sample disktab from Roy's formatter program, but it didn't make any difference either. Quantum is worthless for support on this, seconded only by NeXT (where a software support tech responded with "really, I've never heard of a SCSI drive that was not able to be initialized, are you sure you have it plugged in correctly?"). Yeah, I'm going to pay them the service support fee. I told him it was bad enough that there are some apps written for it - he probably didn't believe me. Thanks for any info, Steve Corley 303-541-6123->voice mail (I'm in a hurry)
From: paulk@mindvox.phantom.com (Paul Kerrios) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DPT 2022/90 w/ NSFIP 3.1 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 20:38:55 EST Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Distribution: world Message-ID: <kF7igc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: paulk@mindvox Will a DPT 2022/90 card work with NeXTSTEP 3.1? I know NS supports the no longer made 2012, does it also work with the 2022? We have about 20 machines, half on 3.1, half on 3.2, and need to upgrade SCSI on a few of them to take advantage of the EISA bus, without forcing us to also change to NS 3.2, which seems to have re-broken the serial port drivers to a state which is worse than the patched 3.1 drivers, so for right now at least some machines are staying put ;-) //=======================================\\ Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======//
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <1994Jan21.222220.13168@icaen.uiowa.edu> Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon) Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa References: <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> <1994Jan21.085450.2042@urz.unibas.ch> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 22:22:20 GMT frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes: >In article <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> writes: >> In article <CJxyoH.C8@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron >Pomeroy >> x(Coop)) writes: >> >> > Does any of this bring back memories of how NeXT priced harddrives and >memory >> > when they were in the HW business ? >> > >> >> So what lesson have we learned in class today? >> >> That's right! >> >> If you buy a Gecko, buy the barest machine you can and fill it with RAM >and >> HD's from third parties. :) >> >> - jon >> -- >> Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting >> tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps >Provided they use 'standard' RAM and not something special ... Its probably the smae memory as in the 715, which isn't quite "standard" but it doesn't matter as there are at least a half dozen 3rd memory manufacturers that produce memory for all HP's machines. Call DataRam, they probably already have 712 memory listed, especially if it is just 715 memory. Its not quite as cheap as 30 pin or 72 pn standard SIMMs, but its only a 20-30% premium. Certainly much less than HP's retail, which is what all hardware manufacturers do (check out IBM, DEC, Sun and SGI prices for memory and disk. Check out Apple's. Remember NeXT's) Disks will of course always be interchangeable. Judging from clues I've seen in the announcements, I'll bet it needs a 1/3 height drive. Of course, you can now get 1G (at least) in 1" high 3.5" drives, so that's not much of a concern... Doug Siebert || dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu || Defeat Usenet spool grepping! Kibo Turkey Greece Macedonia Perl Watcom Mason Clinton Illuminati Fnord Hastur
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ttucker@netcom.com Subject: 256MB MO's Message-ID: <ttuckerCK0KFB.E6H@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 04:28:23 GMT I lost the use of my black hardware but still have many (10+) MO disks full of stuff. Is there any peripheral for DOS/Windows that cat read these disks? ----- Tom Tucker - Sr. Systems Engineer SHLSystemhouse Central Region ttucker@shl.com -- Tom Tucker - Sr. Systems Engineer SHLSystemhouse Central Region ttucker@shl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Can I use NeXT monitor for Mac? Message-ID: <CK0E8x.1Lw@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2h5f13$k6g@nic.cerf.net> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 02:14:56 GMT In article <2h5f13$k6g@nic.cerf.net> andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee) writes: #Does anyone know if I can use my NeXT 17" color monitor (Sony) as an #external monitor for my portable Mac (PB165c)? The FAQ says NeXT #hardware accepts third-party monitor, but what about using the NeXT #monitor for some other computer system (only temporarily). THe original FIMI monitor will work on a Mac depending on the video card. THe standard Mac cable reverses the red and blue. I don't know if the monitor will work with a portable, I doubt it. With a desktop Mac it's a pretty good chance with a good video card. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXTdimension...What is it? Message-ID: <CK0EFx.1Mp@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 02:19:09 GMT In article <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> icardena@localhost (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: # # I have only recently been introduced to NeXT computers (Aug '93) and #have heard several references to a "NeXTdimension board" but I have not been #able to discover what it is/does. What are the advantages of such a board and #what does it provide? Thanx. It's a 32 bit color board that works in a cube. It has an Intel I860 on the board an can support up to I think 64 megs of memory. It has S and composite video in and out. It will also let a cube function with several monitors. You can put 3 ND boards in a cube (ideally) and have the original mono monitor connected for a total of 4 monitors. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Message-ID: <CK0EJD.1nG@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2hjsc5$5jt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 02:21:13 GMT In article <2hjsc5$5jt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> adorazio@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Anthony Dorazio) writes: #I feel like a moron for asking, but, since a NeXTStation is so much LIKE a Mac, #couldn't one install NeXTStep ON a Mac? I mean, why not? # #Someone refute my claim! # #td3 The hardware isn't enough alike to run NS on a Mac. It would require a new kernals and some other stuff. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: DEC DSP3210S formatted without partitions? Message-ID: <1994Jan21.090821.736@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <2hmsbm$4gk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 09:08:21 GMT In article <2hmsbm$4gk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) writes: > Well, here I am, nice drive, no format :-( > > disk barfs with the following error: > # disk -i /dev/rsd1a > disk name: DEC DSP3210S > disk type: fixed_rw_scsi > writing disk label > boot block extends beyond front porch > > and newfs reports: > # newfs /dev/rsd1a > setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 > seek error: 2098711 > wtfs: Error 0 > > scsimodes gets the following info: > # scsimodes /dev/rsd1a > SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a > Drive type: DEC DSP3210S > 512 bytes per sector > 86 sectors per track > 16 tracks per cylinder > 3045 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) > 16 spare sectors per cylinder > 0 alternate tracks per volume > 4197519 usable sectors on volume > > As far as I can see there are more 512 byte blocks than the system can > handle without partitions (max = 4,194,304 512 byte blocks). So my options > are either partition (which I would like to avoid), somehow convince the > system that the disk is slightly smaller (disktab?) or change the block > size to 1024 bytes. Any suggestions and / or success stories? > > Thanks in advance! > -- Fernando > nando@ccrma.stanford.edu > No way, mkfs use a byte addressing scheme using an signed int (lseek),so the max addressable byte is 2^31=2,147,483,648 bytes. Fabien -- ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 22 Jan 1994 07:32:38 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2hqkqm$m4o@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2hphht$1sm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In article <2hphht$1sm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim Robinson) writes: > Has TeX been ported to NEXTSTEP for intel? I realize most people want > real word processors, but the article made me wonder, since I use TeX > for writing, and have been thinking about moving to NEXTSTEP if I can > afford it. > > On the side, my setup now is: > 486SX/25MHz (ugghh) > 8 Megs RAM (triple uggghh) > 540MB IDE 12ms HD > 8514/A clone 1 Meg Video Card > 1024x768 80MHz Monitor > NeXT says that NextStep Intel requires a DX chip with coprocessor. Your SX may not be able to run NextStep. -- Todd Takken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Subject: 37" multi-sync RGB Message-ID: <1994Jan22.081051.9745@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Date: Sat, 22 Jan 94 08:10:51 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Subject: 37" multi-sync RGB Message-ID: <1994Jan22.082436.9911@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Date: Sat, 22 Jan 94 08:24:36 GMT Today I saw a used monitor for sale spec'd as follows. 37" Mitsubishi multi-sync color monitor for PC, Mac, & video/TV. $10,000 new, must sell. $2250 obo. A phone call revealed more. 5 BNC outs - RGB and sync on horz, vert. VGA out BNC video built in speakers 130 lbs. mounted on stand on wheels manufactured about 1987-88 Used at computer store for display video. Also in a conference room. This is a sturdy monitor. It was the only item in the owners apartment not tossed around in the LA earthquake. Owners lived in San Fernando valley 5 miles from epicenter. Has anyone ever seen one of these monsters? Has anyone ever hooked one of these up to a NeXT Dimension system? Am I seriously interested? Can't answer that for sure. Charles Dvorak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: White hardware benchmark results (was Re: #9GXE benchmark) Message-ID: <bchin.759170354@news.andi.org> Keywords: 486,Benchmarks Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2hmeq5$f5i@tribune.usask.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 16:39:14 GMT Here are the results of a JCIS machine: JCIS 2230 motherboard (used in Lucky Goldstar & eCesys) 486DX2 66mhz, 32mb RAM, 256kbyte cache 1440e Wingine card (second rev) Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller Maxtor MXT-540S 540mb SCSI hard drive Intel EtherExpress 16 PS/2 mouse Note: NXBench only tests CPU and video - not disk performance and system memory size does not affect results if the machine isn't swapping to run the test. Both the GEC (from the previous poster) and the JCIS are running at 1024x768 at 12 bit color. The NS turbo color is at 1120x832 at 12 bit color. NXBench tests NS turbo color GEC w/ #9 JCIS w/ Wingine ========================================================================= Dhrystone 26455 56179 60483 line 0.61028 0.69418 0.74842 arc/bezier 0.60509 0.64352 0.71378 fill 0.45345 0.50071 0.54618 transform 0.89939 1.33745 1.62211 composite 0.47194 0.53213 0.63555 userpath 1.02840 1.45226 1.65154 text 0.35970 0.49028 0.52936 window 0.31809 0.35453 0.39016 I still feel that the NeXTstation turbo color runs head to head against the 486's in video performance - and it also doesn't seem to bog down as quickly with multiple task/resource commitments. The JCIS machine is the closest I've seen to duplicating the turbo's performance (I vaguely recall working with a DG/X 6 months ago and that was snappy too). I wonder how the Gecko rates? :-) Happy purchasing! -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HAAAALP: DEC MTE d2 / DPT 2022 SCSI weirdness. Date: 22 Jan 94 02:11:35 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Jan22021135@yang.cpac.washington.edu> Well, after being thoroughly rogered by Digital for a full *month* before I received my system---well, most of it---I finally have enough components to try to install NeXTstep. My configuration is: DEC MTE d2 ('486DX2/66, EISA, 32MB RAM, 128K cache, S3-928 proprietary video). 3.5" and 5.25" floppies. DPT PM2022/90 EISA SCSI card, set up according to the NeXTanswers document (though it seems to be slightly out of date). Pro Audio Studio 16 sound card. Micropolis 2210 1GB SCSI hard drive. Toshiba 3401 external CD-ROM. Archive Viper QIC-525 SCSI tape drive. Speakers, other miscellany. The DPT card is set up properly, as far as I can tell, on SCSI ID 7. The CD-ROM is on SCSI ID 1. The tape is on ID 2. The disk has been set at SCSI ID 0. Now note that this drive worked hunky-dory on a different machine, running MS-DOS, using a DPT 2021 (an ISA version). The main problem I'm having at the moment is, if I set the jumpers on the drive to SCSI ID 0, the DPT card reacts as though I had set it to SCSI ID 7. Any other jumper configuration works. This jumper configuration worked on a prior machine. I've tried setting the drive to other SCSI IDs, and it works fine, but of course, I can't install NS/i on it if it's not at SCSI 0. Help? Any ideas? I need to get this up and running in a week. ---Ken
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Date: 21 Jan 1994 12:24:20 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2hoe14$1cc@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: >HP 712/60 >The base configuration includes an RS-232C serial port, an AUI port, >one SCSI-2 port, one Centronics port, X.25 and telephony ports, and >two slots. Two slots for what kind of bus type? Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Keyboard Freezes On NS3.2 Date: 21 Jan 1994 12:50:39 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2hofif$1dn@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2hhson$m3a@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit johnm@bookstore.ubc.ca (john mccannel) writes: >I tried a new keyboard and retried to install several times. No luck. >So, after that I decided to just upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2 usin the >upgrade.app. This went ok but now whem i boot up ang get to the login >window, the keyboard is dead. Arrgghh!! >Has anyone had any similar experiences? Yes. The workaround can be found in NeXTanswers document #1480. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: andy@pemcom.demon.co.uk (Andrew J Young) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <759014831snz@scot.demon.co.uk> Organization: Pembridge Computing Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 14:51:32 +0000 Message-ID: <759250292snz@pemcom.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759014831snz@scot.demon.co.uk> craig@scot.demon.co.uk "Craig Cockburn" writes: >It is trivial, and completely legal to set yourself up as a "sole >trader". All you need to do is print some stationary with your name >and either "trading as <unique company name>" or simply >"Proprietor: <your name>". Hey presto, you now have your own business >and you don't even need to register it. Being a sole trader myself, I've often wondered about the intricacies of this. If you don't register then there can be no requirements for unique naming since no-one keeps a list of what names have been used. I chose Pembridge Computing for reasons that pm@nowster will understand, but I have no idea if there is any other sole trader using it. (There may even be a limited company - my sole research was limited to the London phone book). Talking of naming, what is to stop someone from registering a limited company called "Mykrosoft" or "EyeBeeEm" (apart from not wanting to or having the boys do in your kneecaps). Is the uniqueness purely lexicographical or is there an "intent to mimic" consideration? >This also allows you to join about 90% of all the cash and carry's in the UK Mmm, I didn't know this. I'm interested! -- Andy andy@pemcom.demon.co.uk or A.Young@cs.ucl.ac.uk "How can I forget those beautiful dreams that we shared They're lost and nowhere to be found. How can I go on?" (Freddie Mercury)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: patrick@idyll.com Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupt Message-ID: <CK1J2u.E0@idyll.com> Sender: phickey@idyll.com (Patrick T. Hickey) Organization: Idyll Communications, literally References: <2ghfbc$96c@news.tamu.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 16:56:53 GMT In article <2ghfbc$96c@news.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) writes: > In article <1993Dec30.182325.5797@news.arc.nasa.gov> woo@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov > (Alex Woo RAA) writes: > | > | I am getting the following error message from a 25MHz 68040 > | NeXTCube with 16MB of memory and no optical drive. > | > | mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110 > | > | Can anyone tell me what this means? | > | Thanks. > | woo@playfair.stanford.edu ************************************************************************** > Oh, also see if you can get on a > subnet behind a router to shield your NeXT from irrelevant traffic. > > Good luck! > -- > Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu > Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher > College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS > ---Not an official document of Texas A&M--- ************************************************************************** Walter makes a couple of really good points about overall Ethernet issues, plus the often-glossed spurious DMA issue. I'll add one more (lower priced) thought....a simple MAC layer (level 2) bridge really does a good job filtering the often frantic jabbering of a TCP/IP network, especially if you can build tables for selective filtering. cheers! patrick (ex-NeXT Club)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) Subject: SCSI driver for INTEL PRO GX.. Sender: news@percy.rain.com (System Administrator) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 18:54:46 GMT Message-ID: <CK1oJA.38q@percy.rain.com> Can someone please email me the SCSI onboard driver for the Intel pro-GX!! (corey, I lost your email address!) -- Steve Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com NeXTmail OK..
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Epson 510 printer driver & 3.2 Date: 22 Jan 1994 20:56:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2hs3tt$olh@galaxy.ucr.edu> Anyone have the Epson 510 24pin dot matrix printer drive installed on their 3.2 machines? I used to have this drive installed, but after I upgraded to the newer version the printer failed to work. Could someone help me out on this? I am thinking about buy the program called "DOTS" for my EPSON ACTIONLaser printer... Is it worth it? Anyone know how much is DOTS? Do I need to have 1MB RAM installed on my printer? E-mail me at chi@watserv.ucr.edu Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: width setting on 17" color monitor Message-ID: <1994Jan22.221115.5191@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 22:11:15 GMT Hi you all, This evening I suddenly got a problem with my 2 year old 17" color (black) NeXT monitor. The screen has widened such that left and right app. 1 cm doesn't fit anymore on the display area of the monitor. Or in other words I only see the left half of the icons in the dock and I miss the left part of my menu's. It seems not to be possible (without opening the casing) to change the width or height of the screen. So my question is simple, who had the same problem and how can I fix it. Allready thanks for answering, Willem -- . . . . . . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Willem van Schaik schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ip@g8sjp.demon.co.uk (Iain Philipps) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <759014831snz@scot.demon.co.uk> <759250292snz@pemcom.demon.co.uk> Organization: Ha! No chance!! Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 20:04:45 +0000 Message-ID: <759269085snz@g8sjp.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759250292snz@pemcom.demon.co.uk> andy@pemcom.demon.co.uk "Andrew J Young" writes: > Talking of naming, what is to stop someone from registering a limited company > called "Mykrosoft" or "EyeBeeEm" (apart from not wanting to or having the boys > do in your kneecaps). Is the uniqueness purely lexicographical or is there > an "intent to mimic" consideration? The only thing that would stop you *registering* such a company would be if the Registrar judged that your chosen name would be likely to be confused with *any* other registered name. Be warned, though, that even if you did manage to register a name like that, there's no guarantee that the people you were (obviously) intending to mimic would allow you to trade under that name. This, I understand, is one of the curios of English law. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Iain Philipps - InterNet StormTrooper Telephone: +44 494 432144 EMail: ip@g8sjp.demon.co.uk On VHF: G8SJP On HF: G0RDI On Contests: G(W)0RDI/P [JO01KJ and IO82JJ] On Vacation: C30DLA At Work: N2TLY -------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: c347a04@hawk.depaul.edu (Eric James Carlino) Subject: Hardware compatability questions with NS/FIP Sender: news@hal.depaul.edu (News Admin) Organization: DePaul University, Chicago Il. Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 23:33:46 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan22.233346.655@hal.depaul.edu> I hope that this is the proper place to pose these questions (if it is not, please let me know). I am planning to purchase NextStep 3.2 Academic version for Intel. The following is a list of hardware that I am planning on purchasing for it. I have done as much research as I can on my own, so hopefully these will all work. Please share your experiences / comments with me. 486-33 VLB 16MB RAM Bus Logic 445S - VLB SCSI-2F 1 GB drive #9GEX level 11 Does it matter which CD ROM drive I buy. NeXT's e-mail said that they only supported the NEC CDR-74 and a SONY drive. Did I read this correctly? I would think that the drive wouldn't make a difference... I am planning to install NeXT 3.2 / FIP on the same drive as OS/2 v2.1 (full version - not the "for windows" version). Which should I install first? Whose boot manager should I use? What else should I be aware of? Thanks for your contributions, Eric
From: rlion@access.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Date: 22 Jan 1994 21:12:29 -0500 Organization: Rebellion System, Alexandria, VA Message-ID: <2hsmed$m8v@access.digex.net> References: <2hjsc5$5jt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2hk5me$4hj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1994Jan20.182412.12553@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> In article <1994Jan20.182412.12553@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, Cheung Auyeung <auyeung@ole_miss.NoSubdomain.NoDomain> wrote: >>I feel like a moron for asking, but, since a NeXTStation is so much LIKE a Mac >>couldn't one install NeXTStep ON a Mac? I mean, why not? > >>Someone refute my claim! > >The Quadras 840Av look very much like the NeXT Cube. If NeXTStep is available >today on the Quadras, I'll get them NoW. It is too much work to figure out >what configurations of Intel machines can run NeXTStep. is this a serious thread? NeXTStep is available as of right now on Intel and Motorola, period. And i'm talking Motorola for NeXTstations NOT for macs. NeXTStep will not run on Macs. Maybe in the future (i can NEVER see that happening, can anyone else?) Hop on comp.sys.next.advocacy and ask that question. -- Eli Rosenblatt (rlion@access.digex.net (NeXTMail)) /\ Rebellion Systems \/ Specializing in Computer Consultation, repair, and Sales
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware From: patrick@wbar.uta.edu (Patrick Phillips) Subject: NeXT 21" monitor on HP boxes? Message-ID: <1994Jan20.194232.470@news.uta.edu> Sender: news@news.uta.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Texas at Arlington Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 19:42:32 GMT I'm looking into getting a HP box to eventually replace my NeXTstation TurboColor. I bought the 21" Hitachi (pre ADB) with my station, thinking that it was an investment that I would be able to take with me as I moved up the line. Of course, NeXT no longer makes hardware, and the story seems to be that NeXT monitors will only work on Dell Jaws systems for NS/FIP, although I really haven't seen anyone confirm this to be a workable solution. My question here is, does anyone know if I can get a NeXT monitor to work on an HP box. I'm pretty sure that the HP specs have been the same on their monitors for a while, so maybe someone has tried this (I know there are many places out there running NeXTstations and HP/735's in the same room). The latest literature from the Geckos says that the 19" Color monitor that you can get with the system has the following specs: 19" Color Screen refresh rate: 72Hz (single sync) Video signals: RS-343A level Resolution: 1280 x 1024 I can't find the specs on my NeXT monitor right now, but I recall that they are pretty similar. I guess the opposite, (almost) equivalent question could be asked, has anyone tried a HP monitor on a NeXTstation? Please save me from wasting a lot more money *and* losing the monitor that I love. (Plus, I wouldn't have every single person that walks into my office say, Geez that's a big monitor :-). Thanks for the help. I'll summarize my responses. Patrick Phillips Biology Department University of Texas at Arlington patrick@wbar.uta.edu (NeXTmail) phil@decster.uta.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flash!jon@dsi.com Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Message-ID: <CK2CAs.Mr4@dsinc!flash> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? References: <2hsmed$m8v@access.digex.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 03:28:04 GMT In article <2hsmed$m8v@access.digex.net> rlion@access.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt) writes: > is this a serious thread? NeXTStep is available as of right now on Intel > and Motorola, period. And i'm talking Motorola for NeXTstations NOT for > macs. NeXTStep will not run on Macs. Maybe in the future (i can NEVER see > that happening, can anyone else?) Hop on comp.sys.next.advocacy and ask > that question. It would be very unfortunate if NeXT *didn't* port to the Macs. If you think the Gecko is a hot machine, look at this, the latest from MacLeak: >The PDM [aka Pilt-Down Man] will be $2000 and use a 60MHz PPC 601 chip and >come in the Quadra 610 case. The $2000 includes the monitor and keyboard. >The BHA [Butt-Head Astronomer / Carl Sagan] will be $3000 and use a 66MHz >PPC 601 chip and come in the Quadra 650 case. The $3000 is for just the >CPU. >The Cold Fusion will be $4000 and use an 80MHz PPC 601 chip and come in the >Quadra 840av case. It also has a 512K level-two cache which will speed it >up considerably above a straight 601/80 machine. The $4000 is for just the >CPU. These are the machines slated for March release. For half the price of a Gecko, you'll be able to get a "PDM" and get similar performance. For the $4000 price of the Gecko the "Cold Fusion" will likely be faster. Plus they have the advantage of using normal Simms (i.e., cheaper). Plus a world of peripherals. And the option of falling back to MacOS, instead of HP/UX. I hope Steve and Spindler have discussed this. Think of how many college students could/would run NeXTSTEP/MacPPC! -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Date: 22 Jan 1994 23:43:21 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hsv99$23q@digifix.digifix.com> References: <CK2CAs.Mr4@dsinc!flash> flash!jon@dsi.com writes > In article <2hsmed$m8v@access.digex.net> rlion@access.digex.net (Eli > Rosenblatt) writes: > > is this a serious thread? NeXTStep is available as of right now on Intel > > and Motorola, period. And i'm talking Motorola for NeXTstations NOT for > > macs. NeXTStep will not run on Macs. Maybe in the future (i can NEVER see > > that happening, can anyone else?) Hop on comp.sys.next.advocacy and ask > > that question. > > It would be very unfortunate if NeXT *didn't* port to the Macs. > > If you think the Gecko is a hot machine, look at this, the latest from MacLeak: > [machine specs deleted] The problem here is that the Mac is a HUGE moving target. Those machines will be out for six months or less, and boom, they will be upgraded or discontinued or replaced or whatever. If Apple has to release System Enablers with every machine, NeXT will have to do the same every time Apple decides to change machines.... that means a big drain on resources for a platform that already focuses at the low end windowing user. It seems like unless Apple FOCUSES on a base machine, scuttles alot of the reduntant or nearly redundant machines in favour of card expandability or just letting the third parties take the business, it would be difficult to support NEXTSTEP on the platform(s). If Apple were to release a basic system with a PPC, no OS in ROM (since much of it is patched out in System Software within months anyways!), and the best possible clock speed they can provide... then it might be worthwhile. There must be some point where Apple would realize a savings by not bringing out a whole mess of new machines that are similar with different cases, and just shipping a model with more punch, but for the same price. Hell, retooling for the cases and the design costs for the packaging must make that feasable at some point. I guess you have to keep those Product Managers busy! -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HAAAALP: DEC MTE d2 / DPT 2022 SCSI weirdness. Date: 22 Jan 94 22:52:20 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Jan22225220@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <MCGLK.94Jan22021135@yang.cpac.washington.edu> In-reply-to: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu's message of 22 Jan 94 02:11:35 | The main problem I'm having at the moment is, if I set the jumpers on the | drive to SCSI ID 0, the DPT card reacts as though I had set it to SCSI ID 7. A followup on this. DPT's documentation is wrong (it didn't come set up as SCSI ID 7 by default), and DEC's ECU program is lying outright (changing the SCSI ID of the card to anything has no effect, though the ECU records the change so that it can lie to you next time, too): The SCSI ID of the card is 0, and I don't seem to be able to change it. Ideas? ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Fast Ethernet Card Message-ID: <1994Jan23.052052.839@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 05:20:52 GMT Does anyone know of any plans to provide support for any of the faster ethernet cards or systems like the 100MB/s stuff? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: briggss@mundania.CS.ORST.EDU (S. Briggs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SVGA to SUN moniter cable, HOW??? Date: 23 Jan 1994 08:30:22 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University Message-ID: <2htciuINNmpr@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Could someone please mail me any information they might have about how to convert a SUN HM-4119-S-AA-0 19" color moniter to work with a PC SVGA card. It has five connectors on the back: G, R, B, H/HV, V. I need it to run 1024x 768 @ 60 mhz or @ 72 mhz, better yet 1280 x 1024 @ 60mhz or 72 mhz. Thanks in advance, Stephen Briggs -briggss@storm.cs.orst.edu (please reply by e-mail if possible)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900) Subject: PCI Video Cards Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <CK27rG.602@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 01:50:04 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group Has anyone been able to get NS/I running on a PCI based machine? What type of video card and resolution? Please email me any info you have, I'm trying to collect a list of compatible PCI configurations. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 15:01:19 GMT Dear NeXt addicts, some time ago, when we had only one hardware, one group for hardware questions may have been appropriate, but now times have changed. SPLIT THIS GROUP NOW! I propose to split this group into multiple groups, one for each kind of hardware NeXTSTEP runs on. e.g. comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} or comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} i386, m68k should be started now, the others as soon, as the first pre-releases have been shipped. I know, one could try fancier names, but we should stick to the architecture names defined by NeXT (try man 3 arch). The hardware dependent questions split anyway! What would someone with NSfIP want to know about a NeXTlaser problem, while someone with black hardware wouldn't want to know about the correct jumper settings on the newest special VLB graphics card with a nearly compatible clock... :-) Things are going to get worse, once those three new architectures start to be used. I don't want to search through lots of unrelated hardware questions & answers to find those few, I'm interested in. Think about it. Votes, please! Ciao, Stephan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Re: PCI Video Cards Message-ID: <1994Jan23.164543.4620@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <CK27rG.602@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 16:45:43 GMT In article <CK27rG.602@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900) writes: > Has anyone been able to get NS/I running on a PCI based machine? What type > of video card and resolution? Please email me any info you have, I'm trying > to collect a list of compatible PCI configurations. > > Thanks. Supported PCI Devices under NEXSTEP - Miro Crystal 32s (S3 Graphics Card) - #9 GXE (S3 Graphics Card) That's all. There are no other supported PCI devices that I've been able to find. The #9 isn't listed yet, NeXT is having a look at it right now. The current PCI version happens to be compatible enough with the other versions so that the same driver will work. Coming soon: - Dell OmniPlex on-board NCR PCI SCSI - Dell OmniPlex on-board ATI PCI Graphics Card - db -- But this one flack, speaking valiantly to the press in the moments after the Hindenburg of Canadian electoral crashes, was adamant that Canadians [...] had offered the Tories (get this) an "opportunity". An opportunity to feel stupid and unwanted? -- Montreal Mirror on the Tories losing 156 seats
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Subject: Accelerators Message-ID: <CK3E6H.HIw@kaiwan.com> Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 17:06:16 GMT It's been brought to my attention that there may be some accelerators available for the black machines. I know the "Black Box" will help things out but, it is priced a bit high - even without ram. I also heard that there is an accelerator called "Ariel". I haven't found any info on it. Has anyone seen it, or heard about it? -Chip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? In-Reply-To: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de's message of Sun, 23 Jan 1994 15:01:19 GMT To: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jan23112035@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 16:20:35 GMT In article <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: some time ago, when we had only one hardware, one group for hardware questions may have been appropriate, but now times have changed. SPLIT THIS GROUP NOW! I propose to split this group into multiple groups, one for each kind of hardware NeXTSTEP runs on. e.g. comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} or comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} i386, m68k should be started now, the others as soon, as the first pre-releases have been shipped. I know, one could try fancier names, but we should stick to the architecture names defined by NeXT (try man 3 arch). The hardware dependent questions split anyway! What would someone with NSfIP want to know about a NeXTlaser problem, while someone with black hardware wouldn't want to know about the correct jumper settings on the newest special VLB graphics card with a nearly compatible clock... :-) Things are going to get worse, once those three new architectures start to be used. I don't want to search through lots of unrelated hardware questions & answers to find those few, I'm interested in. Yes, you are absolutely correct. Three or four months ago Scott Anguish, myself and a few others made a similar proposal, but there was some opposition from the usual troglodytes and NS/FIP was still somewhat new, so no action was taken. However, since then anyone who has followed c.s.n.hardware even in passing will have noticed that: a) the vast majority of all articles clearly und unambigously fall into different categories based on hardware type, with distinct and largely non-overlapping sets of interested parties a) there is sufficient volume to justify several groups in c.s.n.h So I've come to the conclusion that the troglodytes were wrong and that a split would be both possible and useful and am willing to push for such a split now. As far as group naming goes, c.s.n.h.<arch> is in my opinion preferable. This naming convention makes it clear that only the hardware varies between different NS platforms and that hence only question which are hardware related should be sent to the architecture specific groups. If there were c.s.n.<arch> groups you'd get large numbers of posts with subjects like "How do I make the cursor keys work in csh on my Intel machine ?". Furthermore, I'd suggest that we add a c.s.n.h.misc group both for those few questions which don't clearly fall into one of the hardware categories and for questions concerning NS on architectures which don't yet have sufficient volume to justify their own c.s.n.h subgroup. Again, I volunteer to do the vote taking, if nobody else feels the urge to do so. Carl Edman PS: You should cross-post your original RFD to news.announce.newgroups.
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rael@midnight.demon.co.uk ("Rael A. Fenchurch") Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> Organization: Midnight Corporation Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 20:41:16 +0000 Message-ID: <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> tim@fingal.demon.co.uk "tim cambridge" writes: >>areas of London which was caused the collars to explode if a tourist came >>too close and thus set up Londoner-only areas of London. >Do you work for Cllr Beacon? Not at all. I classify tourists as onyone who doesn't come from inside of the M25. No, the North & South Circular. Nope, let's make it the circle line. Yeah, a tourist is someone who's had to travel from outside the circle line loop to get to Covent Garden. Rael... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Rael A. Fenchurch (rael@midnight.demon.co.uk) (2:254/401@fidonet.org) --- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: NeXT floptical and sampling Message-ID: <CK3q8M.1nJ@cc.umontreal.ca> Summary: read and write fast enough Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 21:26:45 GMT Can someone who has hardware on their NeXT to sample at 44.1Khz, 16bits stereo tell me if their Floptical is fast enough to save all the incoming data in real time? Also, is the floptical fast enough to continuously read 44.1Khz 16 bit stereo samples from floptical to main memory or dig-to-analog converter? Lastly: What is the cheapest way I can get my NeXT cube to sample at "CD" rates, or even accept the digital out of my CD player? If the answer is "Buy an Atari Falcon" that's not so bad :) -- <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> <> Odisseas Kosmatos __ kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca /\/eXT_/TeP is neat, Smell my feet.
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1542CF with >1GB HD Date: 23 Jan 1994 16:56:50 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401232256.AA16032@relay2.geis.com> Sheng Liang: >The NeXT Answers section 1108 says that NS 3.2 doesn't support drives >greater than 1GB on Adaptec 1542CF. But I'm now stuck with them. I >wonder if there is some way to make the combination work. Has anyone >succeeded in NS working with 1542CF and a smaller than 1GB partition >on a large hard drive? Or, is this inherently impossible? Perry A. Caro: >I'd like to know too, AND, I'd like to know if this restriction applies >ONLY to the 1542CF, or does it apply to the 1542C as well? NeXTAnswers >just says "1542cf". >Sheng, you might try posting in comp.sys.next.hardware if you don't get >any responses from here. Yes, please only post this type of question in comp.sys.next.hardware... OK, Here's what I know. For sure that the Adaptec 1542B cannot go over 1GB. I have an Adaptec 1542C working great with a 1.3GB external hard disk and a DAT tape drive. So I know that the 1542C works great with drives of over 1GB. Since the 1542CF was made AFTER the 1542C I would ASSUME that it would work fine with drives of over 1GB. Did any of you verified that the 1542CF does not work with drives of over 1GB??? Eric "E.T." Tremblay
From: briggss@mundania.CS.ORST.EDU (S. Briggs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SUN moniter on white hardware??? Message-ID: <2huuubINNmp3@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: 23 Jan 94 22:49:47 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University Could someone please mail me any information they might have about how to convert a SUN HM-4119-S-AA-0 19" color moniter to work with a PC SVGA card. It has five connectors on the back: G, R, B, H/HV, V. I need it to run 1024x 768 @ 60 mhz or @ 72 mhz, better yet 1280 x 1024 @ 60mhz or 72 mhz. Thanks in advance, Stephen Briggs -briggss@storm.cs.orst.edu (please reply by e-mail if possible)
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What sound card should I buy? Date: 23 Jan 1994 17:12:53 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401232312.AA17799@relay2.geis.com> Hello, I'm considering installing a sound card in my NeXTSTEP Intel 3.2. Here are my current choices: (Is there any other choices???) Microsoft Windows Sounds System or ProAudioSpectrum 16 I have a VL/ISA machine with an Adaptec 1542C SCSI card. Heard some stories about not being the best setup with a PAS 16. Any opinions and suggestion on which audio card I should buy? Is the SoundBlaster driver available, I don't have direct FTP access would someone be nice enough to NeXTmail me a copy? I'll listen to my SoundBlaster while I'm making my final selection for my NeXTSTEP audio card. Thank in advance Eric "E.T." Tremblay
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk ("Malcolm S. Muir") Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> Organization: Muir Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 22:42:12 +0000 Message-ID: <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> rael@midnight.demon.co.uk "Rael A. Fenchurch" writes: > In article <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> > tim@fingal.demon.co.uk "tim cambridge" writes: > > >>areas of London which was caused the collars to explode if a tourist came > >>too close and thus set up Londoner-only areas of London. > >Do you work for Cllr Beacon? > > Not at all. I classify tourists as onyone who doesn't come from inside of the > M25. No, the North & South Circular. Nope, let's make it the circle line. > > Yeah, a tourist is someone who's had to travel from outside the circle > line loop to get to Covent Garden. What about a dispensentation for those of us who have to work in the centre of London from time to time, but prefer to live outside ? I too get a little weary of being asked for directions to the British Museum :-) -- ============================================================================= Malcolm S. Muir EMAIL: malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk Sunderland CIX: mmuir BIX: mmuir England CSERVE: 100012,31 ======================= PGP 2.3 Public Key Available ========================
From: shamim@ickenham.isu.edu (Shamim P. Mohamed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I talk to a NeXT 400dpi laserprinter? Date: 23 Jan 1994 16:48:59 -0700 Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello Message-ID: <2hv2db$jn0@ickenham.isu.edu> My understanding of the laserprinter setup on the NeXT is that the host CPU is responsible for rendering the PostScript into a bitmap, which it then ships over to the box. If this is true: Could someone send me some information on what kind of data the printer needs? I'd like to run a NeXT laserprinter from a generic Unix box. I have ghostscript, so interpreting PS is not a problem. Many thanks! -s -- Shamim Mohamed shamim@howland.isu.edu "Take this cross and garlic; here's a Mezuzah if he's Jewish; a page of the Koran if he's a Muslim; and if he's a Zen Buddhist, you're on your own." Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to lpf@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Self Archiving Storage Systems Message-ID: <1994Jan23.233739.3108@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:37:39 GMT I am interested in stories, experience, or leads on strage systems that have the following characteristics. THey have the ability to monitor files they contain, and depending on parameters, would move them from a fast magnetic media, to slower optical, then perhaps even to tape. This device could appear either as a SCSI device, although not likely, or would sit on a UNIX net. I am interested in 50 - 100 GB storage range. Also, it would be nice for the magnetic media to be hot plugable. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: andy@pemcom.demon.co.uk (Andrew J Young) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> Organization: Pembridge Computing Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 00:06:44 +0000 Message-ID: <759370004snz@pemcom.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk "Malcolm S. Muir" writes: >What about a dispensentation for those of us who have to work in the >centre of London from time to time, but prefer to live outside ? Yes, but Sunderland is a little TOO far outside. >I too get a little weary of being asked for directions to the British >Museum :-) There's great sport to be had directing them to the wrong place - Madam Jo-Jos is a good one. -- Andy andy@pemcom.demon.co.uk or A.Young@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) Subject: Summary: NeXT station on side? Message-ID: <CK3z8s.AFs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 00:41:15 GMT In comp.sys.next.hardware article <CIoME8.903@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> I wrote: > Just got a new computer desk. The monitor is too high when it sits on > the pizza box (NeXT-station mono turbo) -- so I'm wondering if its okay > to run the machine on its left side (with the cables in back, and the > floppy drive facing up). > > I can only think of two problems with this arrangement: > 1. ventilation (but I have the "bottom" and right-side vents > clear) > 2. dust and such could fall into the floppy drive. > The consensus of the responses I received was, "it's probably OK to do it, but the vents along the bottom need to be against a flat surface for proper airflow; a piece of cardboard taped to the bottom should suffice." Thanks to the following: Larry Blische <lkba!lkb@uunet.UU.NET> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Mikael Behrens <mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu> An alternative mentioned was getting a 3-meter (cube-length) monitor cable and putting the cpu out of the way (e.g. on a shelf). The cables are in fact available from Bell Atlantic for $69. A more worrying response follows: >> From: Mike Matthews <Mike_Matthews@sgate.com> >> The major concern, since ventilation is OK, is the hard drive. They tend to >> get upset at you when their orientation is different from their formatting. >> I'm not exactly sure why (miniscule differences in the way the i/o head >> tracks with the different gravitation pull? I dunno) but it seems to be >> true. In case you're interested, I'm worrying about my hard drive and my wallet, and just trying to adapt to the higher monitor position. Thanks to those who replied. -- Will Fischer wfischer@indiana.edu (Grad Student) Department of Biology "So much time, and so little to do! Indiana University Wait. Strike that. Reverse it. Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA Thank you." -- Willy Wonka
From: sbender@access.digex.net (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What sound card should I buy? Date: 23 Jan 1994 20:43:40 -0500 Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <2hv94c$nlf@access.digex.net> References: <9401232312.AA17799@relay2.geis.com> In article <9401232312.AA17799@relay2.geis.com>, <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> wrote: >Hello, > >I'm considering installing a sound card in my NeXTSTEP Intel 3.2. > >Here are my current choices: (Is there any other choices???) > >Microsoft Windows Sounds System > or > ProAudioSpectrum 16 > >I have a VL/ISA machine with an Adaptec 1542C SCSI card. > Heard some stories about not being the best setup with > a PAS 16. > >Any opinions and suggestion on which audio card I should buy? > >Is the SoundBlaster driver available, I don't have direct FTP access > would someone be nice enough to NeXTmail me a copy? I'll listen to > my SoundBlaster while I'm making my final selection for my NeXTSTEP > audio card. > >Thank in advance > >Eric "E.T." Tremblay > Eric, I have a PAS 16 and an Adaptec 1742 (EISA) which is emulating a 1542, and I have not been able to get my machine to boot with the PAS installed. So be carefull. I've heard success stories with your config, but I heard of nighmares too. I'd try to get hold of a PAS16 to test before bying one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Bender | E-Mail: sbender@Mountain.Net, Harmony Data Systems | 76057.653@compuserve.com or 2141 Wisconsin Ave NW Unit 504 | sbender@access.digex.com Washington, DC 20007 | (NeXT-Mail Accepted) Voice: 202-342-1214 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <espritCK44G8.Hy7@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 02:33:43 GMT I strongly support splitting c.s.n.hardware. Just an another opinion. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds /dev/null Software | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: pm@nowster.demon.co.uk (Paul Martin) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> Organization: Private Internet Node Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 02:57:32 +0000 Message-ID: <759380252snz@nowster.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk "Malcolm S. Muir" writes: >I too get a little weary of being asked for directions to the British >Museum :-) Answer: You're in it, mate. Either that, or direct them to the Houses of Parliament. -- Paul Martin <pm@nowster.demon.co.uk> [PGP 2.3 public key available]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <CK48zM.ApH@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Organization: VE6MGS Gateway References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 04:11:44 GMT trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: > comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} Currently, we only have 700 articles a month, not even a screenful of articles in the list a day. Most have appropriate subjects that ensure that we don't have to pour over the various architectures by only selecting the 10 odd articles of hardware specific origin, or the two that are coherent and valuable a day ... Although this may change when more platforms come on-line, you may have a point when the volumes increase, but we should cross that bridge when it comes, since making the split will take only 42 days (minimum, assuming no disagreements amoungst the readers of this group and a kind bend by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups). At this point, I would disagree with the split, although I do perceive a growing antipathy between the users of the two current hardware platforms. >The hardware dependent questions split anyway! What would someone with NSfIP >want to know about a NeXTlaser problem, Because I intend to build a card for the NSFIP to drive the NeXT Laser printer ... (HA!) ;-/. More importanly, that Wiz Bang SCSI 8G disk to be released in second quarter of 1994 will crash both the White and the Black hardware platforms because of a little used indexed in-core array in their common ancestry of a kernel :-) >Things are going to get worse, once those three new architectures start to be >used. I don't want to search through lots of unrelated hardware questions & >answers to find those few, I'm interested in. Currently, I believe there are only 8000 seats of Intel Systems, compared to the relatively mature, if unchanging, 50000 seats of Motorola based systems. In neither case, do the numbers even justify the proliferation of groups we have right now, I suspect that they are only justified because of how crazily in love you all are with a lump of silicon ... >Think about it. Votes, please! First, if you want to start a vote, start with a RFD in news.groups, followed appropriately with a CFV 21 to 30 days later. If it is a straw poll you want, consider the lost wisdom of a mature black hardware user supplying a short dwrite to workaround a broken hardware problem of a white user ... And more consideration, if you please, for the fact that the black hardware is dead, and more issues of black hardware problems and solutions are showing up in comp.sys.next.marketplace ... Ciao -- Mark Stephan Trebels for moderator of rec.sys.next.hardware!
From: paulc@leland.stanford.edu (Paul Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone get 3C509 ethernet to work?? Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 23:28:01 Organization: Stanford University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <paulc.33.0017783F@leland.stanford.edu> I just looked at a nextanswer doc about the 3com 3c509 ethernet card. It says: Known problems: can't use twisted pair. Now I have a 3C509, hooked up to twisted pair. (10-Base T). Does this mean that unless I don't change my ethernet card, I can't run NeXTStep over the internet??? Has anyone gotten this card to work for twisted-pair? Thanks! Please respond by email if possible. (no nextmail, please) ---Paul paulc@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: vince@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Vince Waldon) Subject: Need NSIP 3.2 driver for Adaptec 2840/2842 SCSI board Keywords: NeXTSTEP 486 SCSI ADAPTEC 2840 2842 Organization: V.A.L.I.S. Public Access Linux, Edmonton, Canada (403)478-1281 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 06:41:51 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan23.064151.12446@valis.ampr.ab.ca> When I bought my new 1 Gig SCSI hard disk I couldn't bear to mate it with a slow old ISA 1542b adapter, so I bought Adaptec's latest and greatest... the 2842 VL-Local Bus SCSI controller. Of course, now I want to run NeXTSTEP 486... has anyone heard of a driver (or one in the works) for this adapter ?? I tried an install anyway, and the Mach Kernal couldn't reset the SCSI bus during INSTALL... got to see my first 'panic' !! Any suggestions would be appreciated !!!! vince@valis.ampr.ab.ca -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vince Waldon vince@valis.ampr.ab.caca Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
From: hill@iisnext2.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need NSIP 3.2 driver for Adaptec 2840/2842 SCSI board Date: 24 Jan 1994 13:08:38 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <2i0h8m$ba0@cisun2000.unil.ch> References: <1994Jan23.064151.12446@valis.ampr.ab.ca> In article <1994Jan23.064151.12446@valis.ampr.ab.ca> vince@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Vince Waldon) writes: > When I bought my new 1 Gig SCSI hard disk I couldn't bear to mate it w > slow old ISA 1542b adapter, so I bought Adaptec's latest and greatest... > 2842 VL-Local Bus SCSI controller. Likewise. If there is anyone developing this or has any news about someone who is, please let us know! This is greatly needed. Would the source to the other Adaptec SCSI be useful? Why didn't next release a SCSI driver example besides the SCSI tape? Thank you- Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch - -
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: james@wonder.demon.co.uk (James Wallis) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> Followup-To: demon.local Organization: The Wonderful Pig of Knowledge Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:52:38 +0000 Message-ID: <759433958snx@wonder.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> rael@midnight.demon.co.uk writes: > In article <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> > tim@fingal.demon.co.uk "tim cambridge" writes: > > >>areas of London which was caused the collars to explode if a tourist came > >>too close and thus set up Londoner-only areas of London. > >Do you work for Cllr Beacon? > > Not at all. I classify tourists as onyone who doesn't come from inside of the > M25. No, the North & South Circular. Nope, let's make it the circle line. > > Yeah, a tourist is someone who's had to travel from outside the circle > line loop to get to Covent Garden. Yes, but then only a tourist would WANT to go to Covent Garden. -- James Wallis (james@wonder.demon.co.uk++++Writer/Editor++++The Wonderful Pig of Knowledge) sez: Bite off your tongue++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Swallow it whole
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Re: PCI bus drives Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CK4w8s.BpJ@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:34:04 GMT References: <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Organization: University of Giessen, Germany In article <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>, riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) writes: |> Has anyone been able to load NeXTstep on a PCI local bus drive. |> |> Dr. David D. Riley (Dave) |> Acting Director of Academic Computing |> University of Wisconsin - La Crosse |> La Crosse, WI 54601 Yeah, I did ASUS 486/PCI motherboard miro 8s/PCI graphic card (waiting for 16s/PCI) Adaptec 1542cf SCSI-controller 1GB-IBM-OEM HD 16 MB (soon 32MB!, though it works ok with 16MB) Karsten D. Wolf (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <9GCLBYJU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:07:42 GMT Dear fellows, > Currently, we only have 700 articles a month, not even a screenful of > articles in the list a day. Most have appropriate subjects that ensure > that we don't have to pour over the various architectures by only selecting > the 10 odd articles of hardware specific origin, or the two that are > coherent and valuable a day ... hmmm, if the subjects clearly split into *unrelated* groups, and those groups are big enough (my opinion), and those groups are growing, I support a split! Today I only want comp.sys.next.hardware.{m68k,i386,misc}. Others (as stated) when new hardware is supported. But I want it BEFORE things grow too much. I read news every day, and it's not nice to always "split by brain". Others here only read news every few days, and tell me, they don't want to dig through unrelated matters. > comes, since making the split will take only 42 days (minimum, assuming no > disagreements amoungst the readers of this group and a kind bend by the > moderator of news.announce.newgroups). Correct. But the HP port is coming this year, and I want this split BEFORE it's released. Please understand my point, the articles are different and unrelated. Try look through the last months of csnh, and you'll see very few articles concerning m68k and i386 that really belong into this group. Why can't we make life easier? > At this point, I would disagree with the split, although I do perceive a > growing antipathy between the users of the two current hardware platforms. It's not antipathy from my side. I would perhaps read both groups, but it takes too long to separate the articles, even if the subjects are good. I used Intel PC's myself, and they not so bad (using EISA or PCI). But the current configuration is only ok for people interested in both (in future even more) architectures. > Because I intend to build a card for the NSFIP to drive the NeXT Laser > printer ... (HA!) ;-/. More importanly, that Wiz Bang SCSI 8G disk to be Great idea, but you've got to agree, that's not the standard posting in csnh. Mr. Standard posts something on Intel peripherals or NeXT hardware. Mr. m68k will not even read the intel articles, Mrs. i386 will not read articles on NeXTlasers or NeXTdimension boards. I've read and written articles on disks, but again details differ between m68k hardware and the different controlllers in a i386 system (think about the block size, synchronous mode, ASDPE, etc.) > Currently, I believe there are only 8000 seats of Intel Systems, compared I hope you're not right. Otherwise Steve would have told us lies. > I suspect that they are only justified because of > how crazily in love you all are with a lump of silicon ... Hmm, I'm not in love with "a lump of silicon" as far as I know. I'll have to ask my girl-friend... ;-) > >Think about it. Votes, please! [Mark's description of newsgroup creation process deleted] ok, that's absolutly correct. I wanted to ask for some opinions before I post the RFD to news.announce.newgroups. Things are less formal here, at least concering the usenet. But you are correct, votes are not possible yet. > dwrite to workaround a broken hardware problem of a white user ... And more Could you please tell me about a *hardware* problem, that can be solved by a dwrite? I'd say, we've got hardware problems with some motherboards, mode selects of hard disks (separate for black&white!), broken NeXTlasers, graphic cards, ethernet adapters, scsi controllers, ... None of them is of interest to both user groups. > Ciao -- Mark > Stephan Trebels for moderator of rec.sys.next.hardware! No, thanks, our newsfeed is the very latest on the list, takes me about two days to get some article. I got your one because I fetched it from a remote feed. I'll have to kick our feeds sysadm... Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Any drivers for PCI-NCR-SCSI-on-board-controller? Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CK4wG2.Dy2@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:38:25 GMT Organization: University of Giessen, Germany Keywords: pci, scsi, drivers, ncr Are the drivers for that NCR-SCSI-controller chip found on most PCI-boards on the way? Where can I get them? Iïm really dying for getting rid of that Adaptec 1542cf and getting a good audio card. Karsten D. Wolf (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dellji@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jim Dell) Subject: Re: NICE MB can make your 33/66 into a 40/80? Message-ID: <CK44Mt.H8H@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> Sender: dellji@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jim Dell) Organization: NCR Corporation -- Law Department References: <Jan.21.00.29.35.1994.1830@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 02:37:40 GMT kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >Welp, since the Nice Super Eisa Rev 1 motherboard comes with a setable clock >rate (anywher from 25mhz to 80mhz) i thought I might be able to boost the >performance of my machine (much like mac's clock rates are being boosted). >Plus I figure I have 3 fans and a fan on the chip so it might just work. >And it does, kinda. In dos everything works great! Things do run faster, but >since I'm running NEXTSTEP, Im having problems...Namely, I think it has to >do with the memory settings, and bus speed settings, under the "Advanced >Chipset Options" in the AMI BIOS. Now I have 60ns memory, so I think that is >fast enough to work @ 40/80mhz. >So Im looking for some one who may have done this already, and has the proper >settings all done. OR, it would be great if some one could give me the >phone # for NICE motherboards and I can call them up myself. If I get this >going, I'll post my results up to the net. >But for now, if some one can give me Nice's phone # ... :) I guess I'll be >one step closer to winning those extra 14Mhz ;) >Thanks, Later, John There BBS number is (408) 954-0687. Maybe their land line is list there. n
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) Subject: Some DPT 2021 Questions Message-ID: <CK4ytH.K18@netnews.jhuapl.edu> Keywords: DPT, SCSI, 2021 Sender: usenet@netnews.jhuapl.edu Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 13:29:40 GMT I was wondering if I need to run the Strorage Manager utility that came with the 2021 card? According to NeXT answers the card should work with its default settings. Thanks John -- ---------------------------------------------------- Otto "Apes don't read philoshpy" Wanda "Yes they do, they just don't understand it" ----------------------------------------------------
From: lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com (Lyle Parkyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Date: 23 Jan 1994 20:46:54 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2hunnu$l8v@mail.Rogers.Com> References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In article <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: :Dear NeXt addicts, : : :I propose to split this group into multiple groups, one :for each kind of hardware NeXTSTEP runs on. e.g. : : comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} :or comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} : :i386, m68k should be started now, the others as soon, :as the first pre-releases have been shipped. I know, :one could try fancier names, but we should stick to :the architecture names defined by NeXT (try man 3 arch). : I agree it's time to start separating these. I am tired of sorting through all the i486 headaches just to see what's happening with black HW. It'll just be worse when the other hardwares show up. This is my preference: comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} -- Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome Opinions expressed are my own.
From: okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell DGX (Logitec) Mouse Problem Date: 24 Jan 1994 08:47 EDT Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <24JAN199408474284@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: Dell DGX Logitec Mouse News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 The mouse supplied with a Dell 450/2 DGX seems to refuse to work with NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Intel). The mouse is made by Logitec and is described in the Dell manuals as a PS2 mouse. It uses interupt 12, is enabled in the CMOS setup, and works fine in DOS and Windows. o An ideas for making it work? o Given a non-working mouse, what can one do in the middle of NEXTSTEP installation? There are no obvious keyboard commands to get out cleanly. Borrowing a Microsoft serial mouse allowed cursor control (after turning the power off), but I would really like to use the mouse I already have. Thank you, David
From: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Stefan Wolfrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diamond Viper VLB Date: 24 Jan 1994 14:09:48 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science III, University of Bonn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i0krc$7s9@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Keywords: Weitek P9000 Hi there! I wonder what happend to the announced (in the Hardware Compatibility Guide, HCG) Weitek Power 9000 driver which was supposed to be finished within Q1/94. Are there any beta-versions out? I've got a Diamond Viper VLB with 2 Meg of VRAM. The HCG doesn't say anything about supported resolutions and especially nothing about supported color depths. Mathematically, 1152x900 pixel with 16 bit color should be possible with 2 Meg VRAM. Any comments? Greetings, Stefan. --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Wolfrum Department of Computer Science, Graphics Group Servatiusstrasse 27 University of Bonn, Germany D-53175 BONN eMail: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de Stefan_Wolfrum@bn.maus.de GERMANY voice: (home) +49 (0)228 319416 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) Subject: Anyone using Canon BJC-600 on NS/fip? I guess it's the best... Message-ID: <1994Jan24.150533.27985@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 15:05:33 GMT Has anybody been able (or even tried?) to get the Canon bjc-600 to work on NS/fip? It isn't on "Dot's" list of supported printers, but I thought perhaps it might emulate a printer that is supported. I was going to get the HP 550c, but I talked to about five different vendors who sell both, and without exception they all said that the Canon is clearly a superior printer... (there's very little price difference; they are both under 1k). Thanks, Jim
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Date: 24 Jan 1994 16:09:55 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i0rsj$i10@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <CK48zM.ApH@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> I vote for c.n.h.tourists_in_London. This obviously important NEXTSTEP hardware topic has been responsible for a substantial percentage of postings recently. But maybe an alternative would be for those posting on this subject to take it local to demon. Naaaa :-( -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How bout the Canon BJC-600 on NS/black? Date: 24 Jan 1994 16:08:55 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2i0rqn$qg0@wave.aoml.erl.gov> I'd like to be able to use the Canon BJC-600 on my black NScolor but from what little I've been able to find about it it looks like it only comes with a parallel port. I've had no luck getting thru to Canon's tech support to ask about the possibility of serial or SCSI interfaces. Has anyone checked it out for Motorola Nexts? Dots supports some other canon printers but this one is not on their list yet. -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Marianne Kern (kernm@lfgms.logica.com) Subject: Hardware leasing Message-ID: <CK5AJ0.DJv@carmen.logica.co.uk> Sender: Marianne Kern Organization: Logica Ltd. Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 17:42:36 GMT Please help me if you can! Earlier today I was browsing this newsgroup (I think it was this one) and saw an item about a company that leases NeXT-compatible boxes to corporate, educational (and I think one other category) users. The company is located both in the US and the UK (the latter, I believe, on Kings Road, London). I tried to save the item for printing later, but seem to have lost it. Can anyone let me know which item it was, or perhaps provide the details that I missed? Thanks very much. I'm desperate for a box that I can run NeXTSTEP on! Cheers, Marianne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: Dell DGX (Logitec) Mouse Problem Message-ID: <1994Jan24.180915.6843@news.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <24JAN199408474284@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 18:09:15 GMT David Okerson (okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote: : The mouse supplied with a Dell 450/2 DGX seems to refuse to work : with NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Intel). The mouse is made by Logitec and is : described in the Dell manuals as a PS2 mouse. It uses interupt : 12, is enabled in the CMOS setup, and works fine in DOS and Windows. : o An ideas for making it work? : o Given a non-working mouse, what can one do in the middle of : NEXTSTEP installation? There are no obvious keyboard commands : to get out cleanly. : Borrowing a Microsoft serial mouse allowed cursor control (after : turning the power off), but I would really like to use the mouse I : already have. I am using this mouse with no ill affects. Cowboy -- | Joe Rosenfeld j.rosenfeld@csuohio.edu | Automation Librarian (216) 687-6881 [FAX] | CSU Law Library trans.csuohio.edu [ANON FTP] | NeXTMail and MIME ok
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rael@midnight.demon.co.uk ("Rael A. Fenchurch") Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> Organization: Midnight Corporation Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 07:45:34 +0000 Message-ID: <759397534snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk "Malcolm S. Muir" writes: >> Yeah, a tourist is someone who's had to travel from outside the circle >> line loop to get to Covent Garden. >What about a dispensentation for those of us who have to work in the >centre of London from time to time, but prefer to live outside ? Tourist, mate. It's those last five words that do it. "Prefer to live outside"? You must be mad... >I too get a little weary of being asked for directions to the British >Museum :-) I seem to have 'A-Z' tatooed on my forehead or something as I get asked everything. It's quite lucky that I know the place pretty well. Whilst we're at it, I also want to sit on the South Bank with a high velocity rifle and shoot foreign bratlings who climb all over Cleopatra's Lions... Rael... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Rael A. Fenchurch (rael@midnight.demon.co.uk) (2:254/401@fidonet.org) --- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: saucc00@DMI.USherb.CA (Christian Saucier) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Message-ID: <saucc00.759434907@DMI.USherb.CA> Sender: usenet@DMI.USherb.CA (Pour courrier Usenet) Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique References: <2hsmed$m8v@access.digex.net> <CK2CAs.Mr4@dsinc!flash> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 18:08:27 GMT In <CK2CAs.Mr4@dsinc!flash> flash!jon@dsi.com writes: >I hope Steve and Spindler have discussed this. Think of how many college >students could/would run NeXTSTEP/MacPPC! I'd be the first one to join in! C. -- saucc00@dmi.usherb.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Brian Bias <brian@whetstone.com> Subject: Re: width setting on 17" color monitor Message-ID: <CK56oy.2xz@rainman.uucp> Sender: brian@rainman.uucp (Brian R Bias) Organization: Whetstone, Inc. References: <1994Jan22.221115.5191@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:19:46 GMT In article <1994Jan22.221115.5191@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: > > Hi you all, > > This evening I suddenly got a problem with my 2 year old 17" color > (black) NeXT monitor. The screen has widened such that left and right > app. 1 cm doesn't fit anymore on the display area of the monitor. Or > in other words I only see the left half of the icons in the dock and > I miss the left part of my menu's. > > It seems not to be possible (without opening the casing) to change > the width or height of the screen. So my question is simple, who had > the same problem and how can I fix it. > > Allready thanks for answering, > > Willem > > -- > . . . . . . . . . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Willem van Schaik schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl I have recently adjusted the horizontal size of my 17" Fimi color monitor, although to *increase* the horizontal size. The adjustment pots are located on the left side after removing the black plastic shell. Adjustments are all labeled. HOWEVER, I would not attempt this unless you are experienced with working with high voltage and have the proper "tweaker-tool" for inserting into the hole to turn the pot. Conductive instruments can be deadly and you have to have the power applied to see the adjustment. Also, with your 'overnight' change, it may need more help than the adjustment range allows. Remember - have a professional TV person do it for you if you want to be safe! -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Brian Bias Whetstone, Inc. phone: 606.273.1752 e-mail: brian@whetstone.com (NeXTmail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Weekly Posting :-) of Intel Serial Driver V1.2 Message-ID: <CK5AHE.IKv@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Summary: Reliable 38400 through the addition of RTS side of RTS/CTS handshaking. Double buffering to improve interrupt latency and small sundry changes to the documentation. Keywords: Faster, Better, Bigger tits Organization: VE6MGS Gateway Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 17:41:37 GMT It appears that I have developed a pattern of posting updates on each Monday, but it looks like the driver has all the low level problems solved. The only remaining problems are that the driver can not be the service used for the SerialMouse driver (a workaround is in the Configurations Directory), and the Configuration Utility for Configure.app to handle multiple port serial cards has not been written yet. So far, *no one* has provided me any test results when using an AST type multiple port serial card, or for ports using a 82510. By adding double buffering (interrupt routine buffers the incoming data in a circular buffer, a mainline executive [thread] extracts the data, and performs the post-processing functions) I have managed to get reliable operation at 38400 Baud on UUCP links. However, I have found a fundamental maximum throughput that the OS can handle, and have required the addition of RTS side of the RTS/CTS handshaking on ALL lines (regardless if enabled or not, but if you *need* it off on the non RTS/CTS lines, then contact me and I will send you a patch) so as not to lose characters. The NeXT SerialPorts Driver did not perform RTS handshaking, and thus I thought I could get away with it (expecting no upper limit on the performance of the OS dealing with Character I/O). After I added RTS (receive) side of the handshaking, the `low-throughput' problem appears to have gone away. I suspect that when I overloaded the CLISTs under mach2.5/bsd4.3 that the OS decided to become terminally bursty when dealing with character I/O. It is a pity, since the peak throughput drops down a bit :-( If your protocol is streaming and large packet in nature (ie, Zmodem protocol), you may wish to bump the `DOUBLE_BUFFER' variable up to 8192 bytes from the default I have of 2048 if the system you connect to doesn't handle RTS/CTS handshaking too well ... I will be submitting this driver to cs.orst.edu for those with ftp access, subsequent changes will be sent to the ftp site with announcements ... 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From: garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dell DGX (Logitec) Mouse Problem Date: 24 Jan 1994 19:30:50 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <2i17la$s8t@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu> References: <24JAN199408474284@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: Dell DGX Logitec Mouse okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) writes: > The mouse supplied with a Dell 450/2 DGX seems to refuse to work > with NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Intel). The mouse is made by Logitec and is > described in the Dell manuals as a PS2 mouse. It uses interupt > 12, is enabled in the CMOS setup, and works fine in DOS and Windows. After several loops through the Dell telephone support network, I was able to wring the sordid truth out of them: the mice that Dell ships with the XPS line (and I assume the DGXs, given the comments above) are not compatible with NEXTSTEP. Older Dell mice may work, as will the Microsoft PS/2 mouse. You can substitute a Microsoft mouse for the Dell mouse for $20. Garth
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? Followup-To: demon.local Date: 24 Jan 1994 18:57:47 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2i15nb$10e@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> <759397534snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> Follow ups have been redirected to demon.local. This has gotten way out of hand and has very little to do with the original reason for posting. -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "Nothing" Charade, 1963 robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin) Subject: Re: PCI SCSI and Video Message-ID: <1994Jan19.173518.13088@talus.com> Sender: sam@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <CJtHtu.6xw@news.otago.ac.nz> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 17:35:18 GMT In article <CJtHtu.6xw@news.otago.ac.nz> jswain@piglet.otago.ac.nz (Jason Swain) writes: | I'm about to get a new NEXTSTEP intel machine and I've got a couple of | questions. First, does anyone know if the NCR93C110 PCI SCSI chip is | supported in 3.2? This is on the motherboard I would like to get. | Are you SURE about chip number??? I already made kinda driver for NCR53C810 PCI SCSI for NS/FIP 3.2 and now I put it into intensive crush-proof testing. Probably at the end of the week it'll be ready to beta testers. I never heard about NCR 93Cxxx series -- there was 53C7xx and now 53C8xx PCI chipsets, also there was older 53C9x chips I know, but 93C110 | My second question is about video. What PCI video cards are supported by | NEXTSTEP? I would like one that does 1120 x 832 or close to in colour. I | would also like it to be as cheap as possible? Anyone have any suggestions? | We have a driver for ATI PCI video that support 1120x832 16-bit color. | Thanks in advance. | | Jason Swain | jswain@otago.ac.nz If you gonna ask questions about distribution, purchasing, etc. call <info@talus.com> If you have any technical questions -- ask me. -- Semyon Sosin Talus Imaging Corp. - Houston Bureau <sam@talus.com> (NeXT mail accepted) ph: (713)561-0700 10602 Chapel Hill Dr. Houston Tx. 77099
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How good is HP 15" monitor? Date: 24 Jan 1994 20:24:15 GMT Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Message-ID: <2i1apf$ji4@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> If anyone out there is using the HP ergo Ultra-VGA monitor (D1196A), I'd appreciate any comments about the quality of the display. How does this monitor stack up compared to, say, the NEC? Is the HP monitor considered top of the line among 15" monitors by industry standards? Thanks for any info. Jay
From: Peter Burke <Pburke@macc.wisc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "bogus bios data" on IBM Valuepoint Date: 24 Jan 1994 20:16:06 GMT Organization: MACC Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i1aa6$k2p@news.doit.wisc.edu> I am running into this error message when trying to install Nextstep 3.2 on an IBM Valuepoint DX2/66 with 16mb RAM, Adaptec 1542B and a Micropolis 2217 1.7 gigabyte drive on SCSI id 0. The CD boots fine, the drive is shown as a valid choice to install Nextstep to, but when fdisk starts the error comes up: bogus bios data, some bios' can't handle nonsequential targets. If I leave my internal IDE drive installed, fdisk does not return this message, but forces me to install to the IDE disk, although it lists the Micropolis drive as the only option. Where is the problem? I have a hunch that the IDE bios on the Valuepoint is still active (there is no hardware jumper to totally disable it - only way IBM techies tell me to achieve this is to unplug the disk. The IBM bios then tells me it's not installed) I don't want to leave the IDE disk in the machine, and I plan to partition the big SCSI disk for DOS, OS/2, WinNT and Nextstep (quad-boot...). This is a demo machine that will never get serious use, but at this point I can't even get the first OS installed! Is anybody with Valuepoint NS/SCSI experience able to help?
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 24 Jan 1994 15:32:36 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2i1b94$ba7@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why 51/4 diskdrive not supported ? Date: 24 Jan 1994 19:32:02 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2i17ni$dl9@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <boonlow.759088748@sfu.ca> In article <boonlow.759088748@sfu.ca>, Boon Chong Benjamin Low <boonlow@kits.sfu.ca> wrote: >Hey all, > Just got for my NS3.2 FIP few days ago. >Inside the manual, it stated that NS only support1 3.5 diskdrive and if one has >any 5.25 disk drive, it has to be disabled in the Bios. > >Seems strange that NS never expected 5.25 drive to be used by other OS in >a Intel-based machines and expect it's users to turn off support >for 5.25 while running NS and turn it on while running other OS ( DOS, OS/2 ) > >Is there a reasonable explanation for it and is there a way to go >around to not turning off 5.25 support and still boot up NS ? > >Or, am I mistaken and there's already support for 5.25 already ? > I would temporarily remove the 5.25 drive while installing NS. You need to make the 3.5 drive the A drive. Once my install was done, I connected the 5.25 drive as B. System run both DOS/NS fine, though the 5.25 cannot be used by NS. I always wondered why they don't support the older drive (doesn't everyone have one ;-) but in reality I don't miss it much. The issue does not appear to be a hot one on the net either. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) Subject: What do you get when you... Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1994Jan24.220752.25865@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 22:07:52 GMT Q: What do you get when you take a running 68040 NeXT cube, subject it to a 6.6 earthquake, drop it on its side from a height of about 25 cm, and cut power without warning? A: A working NeXT cube (thanks, Steve!). -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com A huge vote of thanks to all the police, fire, medical, water, power, and gas workers who have worked 12-hour shifts to help us out after the quake.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mimbeck@mimbeck.hanse.de (Martin Imbeck) Subject: PCI NCR-SCSI Organization: NeXTstep site Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 17:23:52 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan24.172352.53@mimbeck.hanse.de> I heard some rumor about a company developing a driver for the onboard ncr-scsi chip on most of the pci-boards. Is anyone able to tell me more? martin mimbeck@mimbeck.hanse.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brocher@sdz01.uu.ch (Dominic Brocher) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Sender: news@sdz01.uu.ch (News Administrator) Message-ID: <1994Jan24.104025.14410@sdz01.uu.ch> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:40:25 GMT Distribution: ch References: <CJyHxL.6Mo@dsinc!flash> <1994Jan21.085450.2042@urz.unibas.ch> Organization: Sandoz Technology Ltd., Basle, Switzerland In article <1994Jan21.085450.2042@urz.unibas.ch>, Robert Frank <frank@ifi.unibas.ch> wrote: > >Provided they use 'standard' RAM and not something special ... > I'm quite sure they use 'special' RAM. But you don't need to buy it from HP. In Switzerland try e.g. transtec Computer AG Solistrasse 74 8180 Buelach Tel: 01/861 08 08 Fax: 01/861 07 55 Dominic -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ brocher@sdz01.uu.ch | Make everything as simple as possible Sandoz Technology Ltd. | but not simpler. Basle Switzerland | -- A. Einstein
From: paulc@leland.stanford.edu (Paul Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How about SB support?! Date: 25 Jan 1994 00:05:52 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2i1np0$jfr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> So when is the SB going to be supported? I'm sure quite a few people are wondering. ---Paul paulc@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <1994Jan25.000847.5190@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 00:08:47 GMT In article <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de writes: >Dear NeXt addicts, > >some time ago, when we had only one hardware, one group >for hardware questions may have been appropriate, but >now times have changed. SPLIT THIS GROUP NOW! > >I propose to split this group into multiple groups, one >for each kind of hardware NeXTSTEP runs on. e.g. > > comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} >or comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} > >i386, m68k should be started now, the others as soon, >as the first pre-releases have been shipped. I know, >one could try fancier names, but we should stick to >the architecture names defined by NeXT (try man 3 arch). > >The hardware dependent questions split anyway! What would >someone with NSfIP want to know about a NeXTlaser problem, >while someone with black hardware wouldn't want to know >about the correct jumper settings on the newest special >VLB graphics card with a nearly compatible clock... :-) > >Things are going to get worse, once those three new >architectures start to be used. I don't want to search >through lots of unrelated hardware questions & answers to >find those few, I'm interested in. > >Think about it. Votes, please! > >Ciao, Stephan I say no. Read the titles first, maybe... -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: paulc@leland.stanford.edu (Paul Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB support anytime soon? Date: 25 Jan 1994 00:21:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2i1omh$jk8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> So... Is the Sound blaster going to be supported soon? --Paul paulc@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk (Lawrence Kirby) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? References: <759185889snz@fingal.demon.co.uk> <759357676snz@midnight.demon.co.uk> <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> Organization: none Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 23:00:10 +0000 Message-ID: <759452410snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <759364932snz@muir.demon.co.uk> malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk "Malcolm S. Muir" writes: >What about a dispensentation for those of us who have to work in the >centre of London from time to time, but prefer to live outside ? Day trippers? ----------------------------------------- Lawrence Kirby | fred@genesis.demon.co.uk Wilts, England | 70734.126@compuserve.com -----------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: *** HSD SPELL FOR NeXT COMPUTERS-- ONLY $19.95 *** Message-ID: <CK5Jy5.6Br@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 21:06:05 GMT *** HSD SPELL FOR NeXT "BLACK" HARDWARE--ONLY $19.95 *** HSD currently has excess inventory of HSD SPELL for NeXT "black" hardware, running NS 3.0 or higher. As our fiscal year comes to an end, we are offering these copies of HSD SPELL, while supplies last, at the discount price of $19.95 per copy, plus shipping and handling. *** INCLUDES ENGLISH (U.K. & U.S.) AND ONE OTHER LANGUAGE *** HSD Spell is the international spelling software for NEXTSTEP that automatically integrates multiple language spelling capabilities into your existing applications. HSD spell can also be used as a stand-alone application or accessed as a "Service" from other applications. HSD Spell supports 11 international languages including Danish, Dutch, English (U.S. and U.K), Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish. (Press release with additional info at end of message.) *** WHY ONLY $19.95? *** Previously, HSD SPELL was shipped on two extended density (2.8MB each) disks, which can only be used in a NeXT computer. Rather than opening the packages and duplicating new disks which can be used on Intel based computers as well, we've decided to offer them as they are for use on "black" hardware and pass the savings on to you. This is a one-time opportunity to purchase the leading spell checker for NEXTSTEP at an incredibly low price. *** NEXTSTEP INTEL USERS CAN SAVE TOO--$49 UPGRADE *** The retail price for the Intel version of HSD SPELL is $149, but registered owners of HSD SPELL for "black" hardware can purchase the upgrade for only $49. Total cost for the Intel version during this offer is $68.95, a savings of over 50%! Orders will be filled on a first-come, first-served basis, while supplies last. To order, complete the information below and mail or fax your order to HSD at: Email: sales@hsd.com Fax: (408) 774-1402 Shipping and Billing Information: Company Name: ____________________________________ Contact Name: ____________________________________ Address: _________________________________________ Address: _________________________________________ City: ____________________________________________ State: ___________________________________________ Postal Code: _____________________________________ Country: _________________________________________ Phone: ___________________________________________ Fax: _____________________________________________ Email: ___________________________________________ Product and Quantity: HSD SPELL FOR BLACK HARDWARE ______ @ $19.95 HSD SPELL FOR INTEL ______ @ $68.95 Shipping--$4.95 per copy. Method of Payment: Credit Card: (Visa, MasterCard or Amex) Card Number: _____________________________________ Name on Card: ____________________________________ Expiration Date: ________________________________ COD Company Check or Cashiers Check ______________ ------------------- HSD SPELL PRODUCT INFO ---------------------- SUNNYVALE, January 24, 1993 HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. today announced a special promotional price of $19.95 for HSD Spell, its international spell checker for NEXTSTEP that supports 11 languages.The version being offered at the promotional price can be used on NeXT computers running NEXTSTEP 3.0 or higher. NEXTSTEP Intel user can purchase an upgrade for $49. HSD SPELL has a suggested retail price is $149, which includes two language dictionaries--English (U.K. and U.S.) and one other. Additional languages can be purchased for $99 each. Languages currently supported include Danish, Dutch, English (U.K. and U.S.), Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish. The version of HSD Spell being offered at the promotional price is shipped on two extended density disks which contain the HSD Spell application and all 11 language dictionaries. The HSD Spell application menu contains a choice for installing additional languages, which can be unlocked after purchasing an activation code from HSD. HSD President David Peter noted that HSD Spell is tightly integrated into the NeXTSTEP 3.0 (or higher) operating system so that users can check spelling directly from the spelling panel built into most NEXTSTEP applications. Many applications utilize the speller built into NeXTSTEP 3.0 or higher. HSD Spell automatically incorporates installed languages into this panel so they can be accessed directly, Peter said. In applications that do not support the NeXTSTEP speller, text can be imported via the Services menu into the HSD Spell application to check spelling or perform a variety of common text editing functions. HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc. was founded in 1989 and has offices in Sunnyvale and San Diego. Today HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc is a leading supplier of hardware and software products for Macintosh and NEXTSTEP. HSD's main office is located at 1095 East Duane Ave., Suite 209, Sunnyvale, CA 94086. Phone (408) 774-1400, Fax (408) 774-1402, Email: sales@hsd.com. -- Sincerely, David W. Peter HSD Inc.
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to boot from cdrom on NSI ? Date: 25 Jan 1994 01:57:52 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2i1ub0$f0m@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hy, my machine does not boot up any more even with config=Default. It stops at the "Configuring Devices". Seems i have broken the Default files somehow. As my cdrom drive is SCSI ID 2, I have tried sd(2&3,a)mach_kernel but all I got was a reset. Is there a trick ? -- "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mane@simplework.octagon.de (Mane Wuehr) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <1994Jan24.161952.843@simplework.octagon.de> Organization: SimpleWork Software GmbH References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:19:52 GMT I agree!! -- Manfred W"uhr - mane@simplework.octagon.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <1994Jan25.025244.13337@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1994Jan25.000847.5190@altsys.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 02:52:44 GMT In article <1994Jan25.000847.5190@altsys.com> lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) writes: >>I propose to split this group into multiple groups, one >>for each kind of hardware NeXTSTEP runs on. e.g. >> >> comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} >>or comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} Why isn't this a real RFD in news.groups? If the proponents are serious about doing this, go read "How to Create a New Newsgroup", periodically posted in news.announce.newusers. Call me a troglodyte, but I'd vote against it, particularly as proposed above. It's hard enough getting folks to post hardware-only messages in one place (instead of in .misc, .software, .advocacy, sheesh). With the proposal, there would be N-places. Even if you allow a hardware.misc for issues the bridge across vendors (like which SCSI scanner works with all NS 3.X platforms?), there will be annoying crossposts to make sure the hppa people see the m68k question, in case they know the answer. There is precedent to consider. I don't see: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.i386 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.alpha comp.os.ms-windows.nt.mips Nor anything of the kind for other OS's that can be run on multiple platforms. I currently run black and white, so the current set-up is ideal for me. :-) Also, why aren't the existing hierarchies good enough for NEXTSTEP folks? comp.sys.sun.hardware comp.sys.hp.hardware comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Think of it this way -- the existing hierarchies already have expertise on the hardware, and ignorance about NEXTSTEP. When NEXTSTEP/OpenStep becomes available on the platform and questions arise, participation in the existing hierarchies has the side-effect of advocating NEXTSTEP to folks who might not otherwise hear about or consider it. I personally read comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware and get lot's of useful info relevant to NEXTSTEP/FIP. I don't see a need to duplicate this info in comp.sys.next.hardware.x86. Finally, consider a moderated e-mail distribution list. The moderator filters the newsgroup and posts a digest to interesed parties. This will work as long as traffic doesn't get too heavy. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 25 Jan 1994 03:26:19 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i23gr$arl@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, while > on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. Executor? Is this a PD program? Does it normally come with most machines? Do documents written in Word in this fashion switch over to a Mac? How reliable is it? > - > Stefano Pagiola > Food Research Institute, Stanford University > spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) > spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 25 Jan 1994 03:40:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i24bl$lqj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2i23gr$arl@agate.berkeley.edu> Jessica L. Mosher writes > (Stefano Pagiola) writes: > > Finally, on Black boxes you can run MSWord/Mac under Executor, > > while on White boxes you can run MSWord/Windows under SoftPC. > > Executor? Is this a PD program? Does it normally come with most > machines? Do documents written in Word in this fashion switch > over to a Mac? How reliable is it? Executor is a Mac emulator that runs under NeXTSTEP. Its not PD, but the price is right. You'd actually be running Word itself within Executor, so the documents are exactly identical. At least, I haven't had any problems. Executor also runs Excel and various other (but not all) Mac apps. Those nice people at ARDI will, I'm sure be happy to answer any questions you might have: info@ardi.com Ciao, Stefano --- Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084 Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007 Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white or what? Message-ID: <CK46sE.5M5@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2hc8ki$fgt@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <CJryB2.B4A@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <2he89t$7e8@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 03:24:13 GMT In article <2he89t$7e8@gap.cco.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes: > >I just noticed a shortcoming in the colloquial NeXT terminology. >Black is old NeXT hardware. White is Intel-based PCish hardware. >So what color do we use for Geckos? Sparcs? > >The world isn't black and white anymore ... > >mark I always thought Geckos were green and suns were yellow %^) david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900) Subject: Re: Internal Modems? Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <CK5oBM.LuK@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 22:40:33 GMT References: <mcdonald.2.00143D93@medsci.mbp.missouri.edu> Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group A friend has a Gateway with their internal modem and it works fine under NS/I. We were able to tip and cu without any problem (it works just as any other /dev/ttya device). Haven't tried UUCP or SLIP, but presume that would work also.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB support anytime soon? Date: 24 Jan 1994 23:05:46 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i25qq$e54@digifix.digifix.com> References: <2i1omh$jk8@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Paul Chong writes > So... > > Is the Sound blaster going to be supported soon? > > --Paul > paulc@leland.stanford.edu A third party has already released a Sound Blaster driver.... It is on cs.orst.edu: /pub/next/ somewhere -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: liangs@bluejay.CS.YALE.EDU (Sheng Liang) Subject: Anyone has experience w/ Wangtek 5150ES? Message-ID: <1994Jan25.041442.3226@cs.yale.edu> Keywords: Wangtek Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 04:14:42 GMT I'm plan to buy a quarter inch tape backup drive for NeXTSTEP on Intel. The hardware compatibility guide only lists Archive Viper 150. I wonder if Wangtek 5150ES (250MB, SCSI) would also work. In principle all SCSI tape drives should be the same -- but just to make sure, I'd like to know if anyone has had any good or bad experiences with Wangtek drives. Thanks, Sheng
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mikem@afs.com (Mike Matlack) Subject: dim NeXT B&W monitor fix? Message-ID: <1994Jan24.155503.2998@afs.com> Sender: mikem@afs.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 15:55:03 GMT Anyone have an idea of how I can tweak my monitor to make it brighter? It seems to have dimmed over the years. I have the bightness pinned to the top, and it's still not so bright. The monitor is B&W, connected to an original NeXTstation, and has the mic built into the front frame. Thanks for any help. mikem -- Michael J. Matlack Anderson Financial Systems Mike_Matlack@afs.com (NeXTmail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Perfect Machine For NS/fIP Message-ID: <1994Jan24.203336.564@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 20:33:36 GMT Hi, Hope this gets to the newsgroup cuz I just got a new news feed and not sure if I've got my posting working. Anyways, I guess you won't know if it doesn't so I might as well get on with what I was going to say. I just bought what I hope will be the perfect NS machine. This is the lowdown on it: Micron Pentium/PCI system w/ 32 meg RAM, 0 vidio, 0 hd $2848.00 Viewsonic 20" monitor $1713.00 Mirocrystal 32S $ 908.00 total (includes shipping) $5469.00 The motherboard in the micron is a micronics board. I have 3 other systems here with micronics boards ranging from a 33mhz 486 ISA/VESA to a 66mhz 486 EISA/VESA and have been very happy with them so I'm hoping that the PCI motherboard will be just as good. I didn't get a hardrive becuz I already had a 1.2 gig SCSI drive here that I'm going to use. I will problably just use an adaptec ISA SCSI controller for the short term until a PCI driver comes out for a PCI SCSI card. Please don't tell me about how stupid it is to put a ISA SCSI controller in this machine as I have already said that it is just short term. The machine just arrived today but I am still waiting for the miroCrystal. I will play with it for about a week before I know anything. I will post as soon as I have some figures. Also, would there be any interest for benchmark numbers from my other machines here. I have a pretty good array of machines and would be willing to post benchmark results if anyone would be interested. I've listed the machines we are running below. 1 - 33mhz 486 w/ 16 MB RAM & 200 MB IDE HD & TSENG vid @ 1024x768x2 -- micronics motherboard (has VLB slots, just haven't gotten good graphics card yet) 1 - 33mhz 486 w/ 24 MB RAM & 200 MB SCSI HD & ATI GUP vid @ 1120x832x16 -- AIR motherbaord w/ EISA/VESA slots. has adaptec 1542B (I do use the floppy controller) 1 - 50mhz 486DX2 w/ 16 MB RAM & 200 MB IDE HD & ATI GUP vid @ 1120x832x8 -- Gateway 2000 DX2-50V. GUP has 2 MB DRAM but can't get it to work in 1024X768X16, must be something with the DRAM 1 - 66mhz 486 w/ 32 MB RAM & 1 GB SCSI-2 & ATI GUP vid @ 1024x768x16 -- Micronics motherboard. EISA/VESA slots. Has DPT 2012 SCSI controller. GUP is old version so won't run in 1120x832 mode. 1 - 33mhz 040 w/ 32 MB RAM & 400 MB SCSI-2 HD -- No explanation needed here :-) Just another little note. I have a Compaq 17" QVision 170 Monitor with a Zenith flat screen in it and that is the best monitor I have seen for running NS in native resolution. I bought mine for ~$1000.00. I highly recommend it. -- jerald dawson Systems Manager / Head Programmer Investor's Advantage / MRK
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What sound card should buy? Date: 25 Jan 1994 00:39:17 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401250638.AA03292@relay2.geis.com> >Eric, >I have a PAS 16 and an Adaptec 1742 (EISA) which is emulating a 1542, >and I have not been able to get my machine to boot with the PAS installed. >So be carefull. I've heard success stories with your config, but I heard of >nighmares too. I'd try to get hold of a PAS16 to test before bying one. Scott, Thank you for your input. I would like to hear of people who installed a PAS 16 on their NeXTSTEP for Intel computer with success. I really feel this should be a FAQ, (maybe it is already?) I have had this on my mind for a while now but sound cards and NeXTSTEP don't seem to be a great combination... Eric "E.T." Tremblay
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Date: 25 Jan 94 07:11:11 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.759481871@uiuc.edu> References: <2hsmed$m8v@access.digex.net> <CK2CAs.Mr4@dsinc!flash> <saucc00.759434907@DMI.USherb.CA> Christian Saucier writes: >I'd be the first one to join in [on a NS/MacPPC port]! I think this would be a good idea. It would be (hopefully) easy to configure and run reliably and another port to a popular platform. Maybe Apple would actually *advertise* it, unlike the so-called Intel "partners". -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Tell me about the NeXT Color Printer Message-ID: <espritCK6Bnr.D65@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 07:04:39 GMT I tried hooking up a NeXT Color Printer to my Cube and I can't seem to use it from the two most appropriate apps that I have, Framemaker and Adobe Illustrator. I hooked up the printer, powered up the system and started the apps and when I tried to print, I got a response indicating that there was no printer there. Is the answer to this obvious? -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds /dev/null Software | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Some DPT 2021 Questions Date: 25 Jan 94 07:48:34 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.759484114@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <CK4ytH.K18@netnews.jhuapl.edu> Keywords: DPT, SCSI, 2021 jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes: >I was wondering if I need to run the Strorage Manager utility >that came with the 2021 card? According to NeXT answers the card >should work with its default settings. NeXT is right. You needn't run the dptmgr.exe if you have set all jumpers right. See NeXTanswers document #1476 for details. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PAS-16 and CD Player??? Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 00:11:36 Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis Message-ID: <nemiroal.37.0000318F@bus.orst.edu> Keywords: PAS-16, CD Player Hello folks, I just got my system today and I have been told that the CD-Player application can not Play the sound out of the ProAudio Spectrum 16, it just spins the CD and you have to plug in the speakers through the micro-jack on the CD ROM player itself. Does there exist a CD-Player that work with the PAS-16?? please fill me in. Thanks in advance -Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <CK6D1u.3tp@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Organization: VE6MGS Gateway References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1994Jan25.000847.5190@altsys.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 07:34:41 GMT > comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...} >i386, m68k should be started now, the others as soon, >as the first pre-releases have been shipped. Although I do not support a split (yet), the following is *not* a vote of support: comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k comp.sys.next.hardware.i486 are preferred. No *.misc group since if the information bridges both systems I'd suggest the poster use cross-posts to get the idea across rather than creating yet another low volume group as a dumping ground. I chose i486 to break with the library naming scheme under NeXTSTEP/FIP since the software does NOT run on a 386 at all and this would just make for confusion. An alternative would be: comp.sys.next.hardware.black white gecko alpha sun-stroke myrias cray tron i-dont-know-what-hardware-i-have since It would be *cool* to break from the stodgy x### naming scheme to show that we can be even geekier! Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Re: NICE MB can make your 33/66 into a 40/80? Message-ID: <CK6DH6.49F@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Organization: VE6MGS Gateway References: <Jan.21.00.29.35.1994.1830@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <CK44Mt.H8H@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 07:43:53 GMT kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: >Welp, since the Nice Super Eisa Rev 1 motherboard comes with a setable clock >rate (anywher from 25mhz to 80mhz) i thought I might be able to boost the >performance of my machine (much like mac's clock rates are being boosted). >Plus I figure I have 3 fans and a fan on the chip so it might just work. No, it won't. The 66MHz chip uses a PLL to run it's internals. The PLL locks on to a multiple of the input clock rate (33MHz) and will *not* pull much. Dennis Breckenridge tried this and noticed a slight improvement in the benchmarks he ran comparing the 33DX, 66DX2, 80DX2 and a 50DX, ISA, ISA VLB and EISA VLB, and we attribute the small improvement between the 66DX2 and the 80DX2 all to the fact that the PLL did pull up somewhat but only to it's own maximum. In fact, *once* in a while it would switch to a crippled 33MHz type speed because of it's own redundancy checks. In addition, you *need* 60ns SIMs to even make a go of it ... Try pulling a 33 to 50 (still less performance than a 66DX2), but forget trying to pull the clock doubled or tripled chips. -- Ciao, Mark
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: White hardware benchmark results (was Re: #9GXE benchmark) Date: 23 Jan 1994 11:45:45 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2htkgp$9e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2hmeq5$f5i@tribune.usask.ca> <bchin.759170354@news.andi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: 486,Benchmarks bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: >Here are the results of a JCIS machine: >NXBench tests NS turbo color GEC w/ #9 JCIS w/ Wingine >========================================================================= >Dhrystone 26455 56179 60483 >line 0.61028 0.69418 0.74842 >arc/bezier 0.60509 0.64352 0.71378 >fill 0.45345 0.50071 0.54618 >transform 0.89939 1.33745 1.62211 >composite 0.47194 0.53213 0.63555 >userpath 1.02840 1.45226 1.65154 >text 0.35970 0.49028 0.52936 >window 0.31809 0.35453 0.39016 I can add the following Benchmarks for my system: NoName EISA/VL mixboard, AMI BIOS, SIS chipset, 486 DX2/66, 32 MB, 256 KB Cache DPT 2021 with DEC DPS3053L hard disk ATI GUP VL 2 MB (Rev. 3) at 1024x768x16bit, 72 Hz Logitech bus mouse PAS 16 Intel EtherExpress 16 NXBench tests SiS / ATI GUP =============================== Dhrystone 62240 line 0.67955 arc/bezier 0.65181 fill 0.51398 transform 1.48250 composite 0.57926 userpath 1.48567 text 0.49590 window 0.35553 graphics total index: 0.78 DrivePerformance results: =============================== Write: 1098 kB/s Read: 1194 kB/s total Index: 1.33 >I wonder how the Gecko rates? :-) Me too!!! Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: grey@futon.SFSU.EDU (Herbert Leong) Subject: Re: NeXTdimension...What is it? Message-ID: <1994Jan25.103643.6575@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2hhe11$pt0@access.digex.net> <bchin.758943292@news.andi.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 10:36:43 GMT In article <bchin.758943292@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: >rlion@access.digex.net (Eli Rosenblatt) writes: > >>In article <2hfj1u$stj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, >>Ian Patrick Cardenas <icardena@localhost> wrote: > >>> >>> I have only recently been introduced to NeXT computers (Aug '93) and >>>have heard several references to a "NeXTdimension board" but I have not been >>>able to discover what it is/does. What are the advantages of such a board and >>>what does it provide? Thanx. > >>a nextdemension board provides superior color and a 21" monitor. > >Actually, most of the NeXT 17" and 21" monitors can be used on >both color stations and dimensions systems. The only gotcha is >that ADB turbo color workstations need the newer 17" trinitron >that can handle the 72hz refresh rate. ??? Why do you mention ADB?!?!? ADB only concerns your sound box. (well, unless you want to run a two headed system, then you need to get the ADB mono monitor) /herb -- grey@futon.sfsu.edu grey@wet.com [Paste Standard Disclaimer Here]
Newsgroups: demon.local,comp.sys.next.hardware From: grey@futon.SFSU.EDU (Herbert Leong) Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? Message-ID: <1994Jan25.105934.7255@csus.edu> Sender: news@csus.edu Organization: San Francisco State University References: <2hgsv5$ut@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 10:59:34 GMT In article <1994Jan19.015406.23753@ads.com> bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney) writes: > >> This is typical of my experiences when trying to buy computer >> equipment in this country. The origianl poster's address was in the UK as in merry olde... >> >> First you ring the manufacturer and they will ask you for your >> company name. Then you say you aren't from a company and you >> get put on hold. Finally you will say you are interested in > >My theory is that it is an artifact of the Reagan administration. Along >with the preferential treatment of supply side economics comes preferential >treatment to maximize profits. To these kinds of businesses you are a >worthless entity as an individual. These kinds of businesses even give more >preferential treatment to some bigger customers over others depending on how >much they suck up. This kind of business person is quick to say that it is >only reasonable for them to do this. But it is not reasonable when they >infringe on people's rights. My theroy is that the original poster is ranting about the situation in the uk. He later states in his post that the US "artifact of the Reagan administration" is very polite to him on the other hand. > >Let us change the political correctness of this situation. Whether you are >ordering for yourself or your company the next time a vendor asks for your >company name try saying "You are not supposed to ask that question anymore." >Then if they demand an answer say "You are being unreasonable, do you want >us to take our business elsewhere?" or simply "You are being unreasonable!" >if you don't have an elsewhere to go. For the most part we are the people >who do the purchasing of computer wares and if we want to we can put a stop >to such preferential treatment. I do not know what the laws about that are like in the UK. But since Mr. Bill is ranting about the US... If you act so, uh... anti-social... at the people at the other end, you may be put on a "Crispin Kritters" list that I am sure that many companies keep (even if that list is just in the back of someones' mind). They are people, too and it pay to try to be nice to them since that would encourage them to return the favor. I have never recived treatment like that here in the US which was described in the UK. > >Bill Vrotney >-- >Bill Vrotney >BAH/Advanced Decision Systems /herb -- grey@futon.sfsu.edu grey@wet.com [Paste Standard Disclaimer Here]
From: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Stefan Wolfrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Keyboard Freezes On NS3.2 Date: 25 Jan 1994 12:41:37 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science III, University of Bonn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i3421$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> References: <2hhson$m3a@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In article m3a@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca, johnm@bookstore.ubc.ca (john mccannel) writes: >3.1 was working fine, so I thought I would try to upgradfe to 3.2. While >trying to do a fresh install of 3.2 (from floppy) the install gets as far >as the message: This is not an upgrade it is a complete installation from >scratch. press 1 to proceed or 2 to quit (or similar wording). The >keyboard is not accepting any input at this point. It did accept input >for all questions up to this point. > >I tried a new keyboard and retried to install several times. No luck. >So, after that I decided to just upgrade from 3.1 to 3.2 usin the >upgrade.app. This went ok but now whem i boot up ang get to the login >window, the keyboard is dead. Arrgghh!! > >Has anyone had any similar experiences? >How do you boot into single user mode? (to at least allow me to clear >passwords) > >oh ya, the configuration is: >dx-50 chip on a sis chipset >aha 1542c host adapter >cirrus logic vl bus card (540x/542x) >vl bus ide/multi io card > >Thanks, > >John >Next cd rom drive (sony cd541) John, I recently tried to install 3.2 on a i486DX, 33 MHz computer with a Phoenix BIOS and the same problem occured. The keyboard was dead suddenly. I don't know if it has something to do with the computer's BIOS type but afterwards I tried it an a computer with an AMI BIOS and everything was fine! No problems with keyboard at all! (but with other things :-() This seems to be a known bug because in NeXTanswers theres a file concerned with that problem. 1480 Keyboard Lockup During Installation Bug 1k 93-12-21 Just send eMail to nextanswers@next.com and add the number 1480 to the subject line. You'll receive something. Perhaps this helps. Greetings, Stefan. --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Wolfrum Department of Computer Science, Graphics Group Servatiusstrasse 27 University of Bonn, Germany D-53175 BONN eMail: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de Stefan_Wolfrum@bn.maus.de GERMANY voice: (home) +49 (0)228 319416 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Stefan Wolfrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: VLB IDE Controllers? Date: 25 Jan 1994 12:46:16 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science III, University of Bonn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i34ao$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> References: <1994Jan20.024636.12067@news.yale.edu> In article 12067@news.yale.edu, lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) writes: > >Does anyone know which (if any) VLB IDE controllers work under NS/iP? Thanx. > I don't think that there are any problems with VLB IDE controllers, i.e. any should work. I've got a VLB IDE controller inside my computer (a noname product; both - the computer and the VLB IDE controller) and NeXTstep 3.2 for Intel runs perfectly. Greetings, Stefan --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Wolfrum Department of Computer Science, Graphics Group Servatiusstrasse 27 University of Bonn, Germany D-53175 BONN eMail: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de Stefan_Wolfrum@bn.maus.de GERMANY voice: (home) +49 (0)228 319416 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: choyt@boi.hp.com (Craig Hoyt) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Sender: news@boi.hp.com (Boise Site News Server) Message-ID: <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 13:02:09 GMT References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <CJxytE.Kz7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware benjamin bernhard (bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote: : In article <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: : >In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: : > : > ADDITIONAL MEMORY : > --------------------------------- : >> 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 : >> 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 : >> 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 : >> 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 : > : >Ah, now I see where they make their money. These prices are about bloody : >ridiculous! : Do you remember Next's add-on prices? Equally high. HP is not in the : business of selling ram or hard drives. Their value-added is not in : sales, but in engeneering. --Well, actually, it's both. We ARE in the business of selling disk drives and there IS engineering value added. Also added is the high quality and superb warranty. - Craig, HP Disk Memory Division, Coyote Engineering
From: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Stefan Wolfrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: video modes in NSFIP 3.2 Date: 25 Jan 1994 13:19:12 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science III, University of Bonn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i368g$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Keywords: video tseng colors videomode resolution Hi there, my system is a i486DX2/66 machine, VLB, currently with a TSENG ET4000W32 VLB card with 1 MB Video RAM (BUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S STILL NO DIAMOND VIPER/ WEITEK P9000 DRIVER OUT :-( ) and I was wondering why there is only one driver which supports only 512K of Video RAM which results in only 2 bit depth, i.e. 4 shades of grey. A simple calculation shows that more could be possible: for example, 1024x768 pixel with one byte per pixel would result in 768K VRAM needed, so 8bit/pixel, i.e. 256 shades of gray will work (or even better, 256 colors, but this is not supported by the NeXT kernel; does anybody know why?), or there's 1Meg VRAM available and I want 16bit/pixel, that is 2 bytes/pixel, this results in 524288 Byte available for the resolution. If the resolution ratio should stay by 4/3 for x/y, this yields to 2 simple equations with 2 unknown variables x and y: x*y = 524288 x/y = 4/3 This results to y ~= 627 lines and x ~= 836 columns. 836*627 equals 524172 so we're inside the limit. So, why aren't there driver for those modes? Of course we'll have to look at the maximum dot clock the video card can produce to determine the refresh rate at which the modes could be realized. Has anyone out there already made experience with NSFIP 3.2's DriverKit? Greetings, Stefan. --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Wolfrum Department of Computer Science, Graphics Group Servatiusstrasse 27 University of Bonn, Germany D-53175 BONN eMail: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de Stefan_Wolfrum@bn.maus.de GERMANY voice: (home) +49 (0)228 319416 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Stefan Wolfrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all? Date: 25 Jan 1994 13:30:31 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science III, University of Bonn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i36tn$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> References: <CJzDMG.CJn@carmen.logica.co.uk> In article CJn@carmen.logica.co.uk, Marianne Kern (kernm@lfgms.logica.com) writes: >In article <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu> joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald) writes: >>L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote: >> >>: One thing I don't understand is the use of ATI graphics. >>: It is pretty much universally cited as being slower than >>: several other offerings, yet builders of NS/Intel >>: systems use it fairly often. Why? Economics? >>: Hidden virtues? Hype? >> >>My graphics card of choice is still the ATI -- even if it isn't >>the fastest thing going anymore. Fact is, it's supported by more >>operating systems than any other card on the market, and it isn't >>exactly slow either (except for moving windows in NeXTStep). I >>typically run several operating systems on my machines even though >>they typically run one system 95% of the time. It's nice to be able >>to start a different OS and still have a fully capable machine. >> >>Now that I'm hooked on NeXTStep, I would love to get a nice fast >>card and dedicate a machine to it -- but what should I buy? Right >>now there just isn't anything good on the market, that is supported >>by NeXTStep AND is significantly faster than the ATI. >> >>Joe Fitzgerald >>Network Systems and Services >> > >Speaking from what I heard from a friend who saw it in action: > >The Wingine on a Lucky Goldstar box is blindingly fast! The box >that was demoed to him ran NeXTSTEP, Solaris, OS/2 and Windows >simultaneously with no detriment to performance. The NeXTSTEP windows >simply slid across the screen immaculately. I don't know what chip works on the Wingine, but someone has to convince me that there is something faster than the DIAMOND VIPER VLB with the Weitek Power 9000 chip. Although there's no driver for NSFIP 3.2 yet (but announced within Q1 '94) under MS Windows scrolling of text, which is in fact a source-destination-bitblt as is the moving of NeXTstep windows, is blindingly fast!!! In WinWord or Excel for example you have to take care that your text or spreadsheet isn't suddenly miles away just a few milliseconds after you've pressed a scrollbar button!! Well, yes, o.k., the driver support for the Viper isn't fabulous. But that's a problem with Diamond's driver developer support policy which is very restrictive. A wonder at all that Diamond survives and is still so dominant in the market. For Linux, for example, it's a tragedy with drivers! But that's another thing. So long, Stefan. --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Wolfrum Department of Computer Science, Graphics Group Servatiusstrasse 27 University of Bonn, Germany D-53175 BONN eMail: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de Stefan_Wolfrum@bn.maus.de GERMANY voice: (home) +49 (0)228 319416 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Stefan Wolfrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Soundblaster not supported??? Date: 25 Jan 1994 13:38:44 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science III, University of Bonn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i37d4$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Keywords: sound soundblaster Hi there, can this be true that the best selling sound card (is it indeed?), the Soundblaster in all it's variants, is not supported by NeXTstep 3.2 for Intel? I've got a Soundblaster Pro 1.0 and miss a driver very much! :-( Any comments? So long, Stefan. --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Wolfrum Department of Computer Science, Graphics Group Servatiusstrasse 27 University of Bonn, Germany D-53175 BONN eMail: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de Stefan_Wolfrum@bn.maus.de GERMANY voice: (home) +49 (0)228 319416 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin) Subject: Re: Help: regarding drivers Message-ID: <1994Jan25.041848.8082@talus.com> Sender: sam@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2hmp1g$q4d@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 04:18:48 GMT In article <2hmp1g$q4d@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: | In article <1994Jan20.033732.13355@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, | t.balasubramanian <balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu > wrote: | >Hi, | > We want to do simple slow IO with a NeXTStep Intel machine, along the | | A driver to implement this on the Next shouldn't be all that difficult, but | I'll let those with DriverKit experience speak to that point. | You can do it _only_ from kernel level (at last after a couple of written drivers I see no point how to that from user level -- from the scratch) Look at sourcez in /NextLibrary/Documentation/nextDev/Examples/DriverKit/... -- it's really simple. rgds, -- Semyon Sosin Talus Imaging Corp. - Houston Bureau <sam@talus.com> (NeXT mail accepted) ph: (713)561-0700 10602 Chapel Hill Dr. Houston Tx. 77099
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? (nope) Message-ID: <1994Jan25.182241.13942@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 18:22:41 GMT Instead of breaking this group up, why not include the architecture in the Subject for each post. Such as "Audio problem [m68k]" or "Audio problem [intel]".....ad infinitum. Instructions for this could be included in the monthly "Guide to the NeXT newsgroups" posting. Those who are in too much of a hurry to "wade" through all of the posts about hardware architectures they aren't interested in could quickly weed out the appropriate posts, and people like me, who would subscribe to all of the hardware groups anyway, get everything in one handy, convenient newsgroup. By keeping this newsgroup intact, questions such as "Which is the best hardware for my problem" would have a newsgroup, instead of having to cross post all of the various hardware architectures. - eric fortune fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu NeXTMail OK
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Annoying constant background hiss in my Slab --- Any ideas? Date: 25 Jan 1994 18:54:27 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <2i3pt3$mrr@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <2hk969$a4p@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2hk969$a4p@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) writes: > Hi, > > I cannot recall how long this has been the case, but my 1991 slab has an > annoying constant background hiss, as if made by an errant fan, but I see no > outlet for a fan. Has anyone any ideas and/or helpful hints? Is this a costly > problem under the new NeXT hardware support? > I had this problem forever, and I ended up replacing my internal disk drive (with a bigger one, of course) and now I'm soothed... -- Dr. Noam Arzt 215/898-3029 (voice) Director, Finance, Administration & Systems 215/898-9348 (FAX) University of Pennsylvania arzt@dccs.upenn.edu Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK) Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
From: french@slugbt.zso.dec.com (larry french) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PRICE REDUCED: Cube and 400 dpi Laser Printer for sale Date: 25 Jan 1994 19:19:42 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Message-ID: <2i3rce$7ip@usenet.pa.dec.com> Summary: FOR SALE: NeXT Cube and Laser Printer Keywords: Cube, printer, 68040, NeXT, next I am selling my complete NeXT computer system for $2200. The system includes the following: o Original NeXT cube with a 68040 motherboard. o NeXT 400 dpi laser printer. o Optical disk drive. o Megapixel monochrome display. o 300 MB hard disk. o 2400 baud Dove FAX modem. o 8MB RAM. As I mentioned above, I am asking $2200 for the complete system. To contact me, please call (206) 882-2087 or reply via email. - Larry French
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What sound card should buy? Message-ID: <Jan.25.14.55.59.1994.27435@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 25 Jan 94 19:56:00 GMT References: <9401250638.AA03292@relay2.geis.com> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. erictremblay@genie.geis.com writes: >>Eric, > >I have a PAS 16 and an Adaptec 1742 (EISA) which is emulating a 1542, > >and I have not been able to get my machine to boot with the PAS installed. > >So be carefull. I've heard success stories with your config, but I heard of > >nighmares too. I'd try to get hold of a PAS16 to test before bying one. > PAS 16 on their NeXTSTEP for Intel computer with success. >I really feel this should be a FAQ, (maybe it is already?) > >I have had this on my mind for a while now but sound cards and NeXTSTEP > don't seem to be a great combination... Welp, my system finally is working with any sound you throw at the card. It will even mix multiple sounds playing at the same time. I have an EISA DPT motherboard. However, I think that my previous video card was conflicting with the sound card?? Once I got rid of the ATI GUP, the PAS 16 started working without flaw. I also moved the rom address of the DPT card to something like D0800 from C0800??? This may have had something to do with it too. It seems that many SCSI controllers memory addresses conflict with some VESA vide addresses....??? Just my (finally) success story. Later, and good luck, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jgg@LoftTech.com (J. G. Gregory) Subject: PLI to GX floppy problems Message-ID: <1994Jan25.193428.928@LoftTech.com> Sender: jgg@LoftTech.com Organization: LoftTech Incorporated Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 19:34:28 GMT I am having consistent, but not totally repeatable, problems with getting data off a Cube and onto NSFIP on an Intel GX Professional. 68040 cube running 3.1, with SCSI external PLI 2.88 floppy drive Intel GX/Professional running 3.1, with builtin floppy. Problems are identical regardless of NeXT or DOS format, regardless of which machine the disk was formatted on. Using 1.44m floppies (HD), if I try to move a lot of files (or one big one) via floppy from the cube to the Intel, I invariably get some kind of "file damaged" or similar message on the Intel while trying to get the file off the floppy. I can reliably get small files to work if most of the floppy is free. However, with a bunch of stuff already on the floppy, a new small file will fail in the same way. Today I tried to move a single 830K file. It failed. I then broke it up into 9 100K files, and put them on the disk. All but one worked. I cleared the disk, put the one that didn't work back on, and it worked. Needless to say, this is frustrating! 1. Do other people have this problem? 2. Is it related to the PLI 2.88 capability? (e.g. doesn't write a wide enough bit) Thanks in advance. I will post a summary if asked. --J Gregory LoftTech Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Re: What sound card should buy? Message-ID: <CK7AvI.7oE@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Organization: VE6MGS Gateway References: <9401250638.AA03292@relay2.geis.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 19:45:18 GMT erictremblay@genie.geis.com writes: >Thank you for your input. I would like to hear of people who installed a > PAS 16 on their NeXTSTEP for Intel computer with success. I have success, limited I guess, since the only thing left that crashes my box now (After the serial port fiasco) is 22KHz sound to my Pro-Audio Spectrum at `unexpected' times. I use `vi' and a couple of extra `ESC's will give me a panic window half way through the sound. I have a 486DX2/66 with a Adaptek 1542C and the Pro Audio Spectrum 16. The Pro-Audio is configured to do NO SB emulation, and is in DMA3 IRQ15. It still needs work ... Ciao -- Mark
From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI or IDE Hard Drive? Date: 25 Jan 1994 18:36:29 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2i3ord$2ig@ftp-p.mccaw.com> I'm about to bite for a Gateway P5-66 PCI system. My configuration will be: 32M RAM with #9XGE (or MiroCrystal) graphics card. I understand that I need a CD-ROM with a SCSI adaptor to install NS, so I'll forgo Gateway's CD-ROM, but I'm somewhat confused as to whether I should get a SCSI hard drive, or just go with Gateway's IDE Hard Drive. Any suggestions? I'm interested in knowing what the speed differences would be between the IDE vs. SCSI. Also, I eventually want a CD-ROM drive that'll work under both NS and Windows, and therefore I'd have to get a SCSI adaptor eventually anyway, so I'm leaning towards the SCSI HD. However, if the IDE is significantly faster ... Thanks. -- // David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ... // david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Douglas B. Moore Subject: Any rumors on "clock doubled" 040's? Message-ID: <CK76KE.IJ0@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: World Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 18:12:12 GMT Just curious... But wouldn't it seem like an obvious move for Motorola to release such a chip? I'd certainly enjot the opportunity to drop a 66mhz "dx2'd" 040 in my dimension. --- Douglas Moore 172 East Sixth Street #2106 St Paul, MN 55101 612-227-3274 dmoore@maroon.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: Re: White hardware benchmark results (was Re: #9GXE benchmark) Message-ID: <1994Jan25.205623.14872@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: 486,Benchmarks Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. References: <2hmeq5$f5i@tribune.usask.ca> <bchin.759170354@news.andi.org> <2htkgp$9e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 20:56:23 GMT Just to see them all next to each other, I took all these video benchmark results and put them in one table, so I thought I'd share so that everyone doesn't have to do the same thing from the previous 4 posts: NXBench NS turb GEC eCesys JCIS noname ATI tests color #9GXE Wingine Wingine GUP r3 ========================================================================= Dhrystone 26455 56179 60120 60483 62240 line 0.61028 0.69418 0.75839 0.74842 0.67955 arc/bezier 0.60509 0.64352 0.72687 0.71378 0.65181 fill 0.45345 0.50071 0.54536 0.54618 0.51398 transform 0.89939 1.33745 1.66271 1.62211 1.48250 composite 0.47194 0.53213 0.63782 0.63555 0.57926 userpath 1.02840 1.45226 1.62261 1.65154 1.48567 text 0.35970 0.49028 0.52912 0.52936 0.49590 window 0.31809 0.35453 0.32431 0.39016 0.35553 See the previous posts for exact machine configurations. If anyone else wants to post more results, that'd be great. There's room for at least 2 more colmns. :-) I'd especially like to see results for a PCI Miro Crystal32S. (And maybe whoever is writing the viper driver can post results for it. :-) ) Question: Why isn't Wingine mentioned in the Harware Compatibility Guide page on graphics adaptors? It is in the certified and listed systems pages. -Karl
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: video bench results SUMMARY (was Re: #9GXE benchmark) Date: 25 Jan 1994 21:25:20 GMT Organization: Stanford School of Medicine Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i42o0$cu8@morrow.stanford.edu> Just to see them all next to each other, I took all these video benchmark results and put them in one table, so I thought I'd share so that everyone doesn't have to do the same thing from the previous 4 posts: NXBench NS turb GEC eCesys JCIS noname ATI tests color #9GXE Wingine Wingine GUP r3 ========================================================================= Dhrystone 26455 56179 60120 60483 62240 line 0.61028 0.69418 0.75839 0.74842 0.67955 arc/bezier 0.60509 0.64352 0.72687 0.71378 0.65181 fill 0.45345 0.50071 0.54536 0.54618 0.51398 transform 0.89939 1.33745 1.66271 1.62211 1.48250 composite 0.47194 0.53213 0.63782 0.63555 0.57926 userpath 1.02840 1.45226 1.62261 1.65154 1.48567 text 0.35970 0.49028 0.52912 0.52936 0.49590 window 0.31809 0.35453 0.32431 0.39016 0.35553 See the previous posts for exact machine configurations. If anyone else wants to post more results, that'd be great. There's room for at least 2 more colmns. :-) I'd especially like to see results for a PCI Miro Crystal32S. (And maybe whoever is writing the viper driver can post results for it. :-) ) Question: Why isn't Wingine mentioned in the Harware Compatibility Guide page on graphics adaptors? It is in the certified and listed systems pages. -Karl
From: rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCI bus drives Date: 25 Jan 1994 21:32:13 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <2i434t$605@news.bu.edu> References: <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> <CK4w8s.BpJ@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Karsten Wolf (g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de) wrote: : In article <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>, riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) writes: : |> Has anyone been able to load NeXTstep on a PCI local bus drive. : |> : Yeah, I did : ASUS 486/PCI motherboard : miro 8s/PCI graphic card (waiting for 16s/PCI) : Adaptec 1542cf SCSI-controller : 1GB-IBM-OEM HD : 16 MB (soon 32MB!, though it works ok with 16MB) : Karsten D. Wolf Isn't the Adaptec 1542cf SCSI-controller on the isa bus and not the PCI bus? Thanks Ray Gasser rayg@cs.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: video bench results SUMMARY (was Re: #9GXE benchmark) Message-ID: <1994Jan25.212442.15152@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:24:42 GMT Just to see them all next to each other, I took all these video benchmark results and put them in one table, so I thought I'd share so that everyone doesn't have to do the same thing from the previous 4 posts: NXBench NS turb GEC eCesys JCIS noname ATI tests color #9GXE Wingine Wingine GUP r3 ========================================================================= Dhrystone 26455 56179 60120 60483 62240 line 0.61028 0.69418 0.75839 0.74842 0.67955 arc/bezier 0.60509 0.64352 0.72687 0.71378 0.65181 fill 0.45345 0.50071 0.54536 0.54618 0.51398 transform 0.89939 1.33745 1.66271 1.62211 1.48250 composite 0.47194 0.53213 0.63782 0.63555 0.57926 userpath 1.02840 1.45226 1.62261 1.65154 1.48567 text 0.35970 0.49028 0.52912 0.52936 0.49590 window 0.31809 0.35453 0.32431 0.39016 0.35553 See the previous posts for exact machine configurations. If anyone else wants to post more results, that'd be great. There's room for at least 2 more colmns. :-) I'd especially like to see results for a PCI Miro Crystal32S. (And maybe whoever is writing the viper driver can post results for it. :-) ) Question: Why isn't Wingine mentioned in the Harware Compatibility Guide page on graphics adaptors? It is in the certified and listed systems pages. -Karl
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Annoying constant background hiss in my Slab --- Any ideas? Date: 25 Jan 1994 21:55:00 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2i44fk$spq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <2i3pt3$mrr@netnews.upenn.edu> In article <2i3pt3$mrr@netnews.upenn.edu> arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt) writes: > In article <2hk969$a4p@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. > Smith) writes: > > Hi, > > > > I cannot recall how long this has been the case, but my 1991 slab has an > > annoying constant background hiss, as if made by an errant fan, but I see no > > outlet for a fan. Has anyone any ideas and/or helpful hints? Is this a > costly > > problem under the new NeXT hardware support? > > > > I had this problem forever, and I ended up replacing my internal disk drive > (with a bigger one, of course) and now I'm soothed... > > -- I have a similar problem, except that the source of the hiss seems to be my monitor. don...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: Re: video bench results SUMMARY (was Re: #9GXE benchmark) Message-ID: <1994Jan25.213557.15389@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. References: <1994Jan25.212442.15152@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:35:57 GMT Apologies for the multiple post -- Pnews/rn problems. -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: lvision@netcom.com (Logic Vision) Subject: NeXT Color Printer Message-ID: <lvisionCK7Fvy.5p3@netcom.com> Followup-To: madhavan@lvision.com Summary: parts are the available? Keywords: madhavan@lvision.com, NeXT Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:33:20 GMT I am planning to buy a NeXT Color Printer - bubble jet at an auction 1. How good are these printers? 2. Are their parts available? 3. Can I use it with other machines? 4. How easy is it to connect this to NeXT Station? 5. What about Toners, Cartridges ...etc? What would be an average price for this? Please respond asap! Any input would be really appreciated.
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Gateway P5-60 questions Date: 25 Jan 1994 20:08:29 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2i3u7t$gl@news.u.washington.edu> Is anyone successfully running NS 3.2 on a Gateway p5-60 or p5-66? Please get in touch if so. I'm also interested in knowing what version of PCI these systems use. Reports I've seen suggest the p5-60 is PCI/2. How about the p5-66? Thanks in advance. bb -- Bill Barker Biological Structure, SM-20 University of Washington Seattle WA 98195 (206) 543-7315 "In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Douglas B. Moore Subject: 5.25" SCSI MO drive in a Cube? Message-ID: <CK7J7w.MBu@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: World Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:45:28 GMT Has anybody out there tried this? Does anybody know of a drive that would fit, with the slot of the drive lining up with the opening in the cube? --- Douglas Moore 172 East Sixth Street #2106 St Paul, MN 55101 612-227-3274 dmoore@maroon.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) Subject: Timeframe for STB Pegasus driver? Message-ID: <CK728D.B3q@ceco.ceco.com> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 16:38:36 GMT Hi. I wrote to someone at STB (they have a compuserve account) and the response I got was that the person believes that the drivers have been posted to the Next forum on Compuserve. I don't have Compuserve access so I couldn't look, but this sounds more like they may have drivers there, but probably not the STB driver yet... wouldn't it have been posted on ftp.next.com if it were out? 2 quick questions- is it really on Compuserve (doubtful) and does anyone have more info on the status of the driver (timewise, resolutions/refresh)? I know this question gets posted every few weeks, but maybe it will encourage someone to finish it. :) Thanks, Mike Stepniczka mikes@ceco.ceco.com (I know there ARE other people out there with Pegasus boards who are waiting as well. It sort-of works now.)
From: tec@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy E. Cushing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN support via DSP? Date: 25 Jan 1994 23:47:58 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2i4b3e$qm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Hayes still offers their ISDN adapter for $349, but says that no software is included, even though it connects to the DSP port. This doesn't sound right, so I'm looking for people who have used the device, and/or have or know of third party software offerings to use the device. Thanks in advance -- NeXTmail replys welcome! Timothy E. Cushing tec@alta.com tec@alumni.cco.caltech.edu forwarded to alta.com
From: cooncat@milhaud (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Should we have two next.hardware groups? Date: 26 Jan 1994 00:38:03 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2i4e1b$of@agate.berkeley.edu> I don't know if anyone feels the same way as I do, but I find it a bit tedious to wade through Intel box hardware problems as I have a Motorolla NeXT. Perhaps this group should fork into two separate ones? Just a thought to kick around... -- O+ O+ ************************************ Jessica L Mosher B-) Mills College email: cooncat@ella.mills.edu NeXTmail: cooncat@mingus.mills.edu "Life is what happens while you're making other plans." -John Lennon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ O+ O+
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.2 upgrade: Mouse problem! Date: 26 Jan 1994 00:18:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i4crs$q0i@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Today I finally upgraded my ALR Evolution to 3.2. The upgrade went relatively smoothly. However, now my Mouse (a PS/2 mouse) feels very sluggish, somewhat like I remember a serial mouse feels. It used to be very fast and smooth before the upgrade. Now it is really hard to work with. Has anyone else made that observation? Is there a solution? Any help is gladly appreciated, Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 26 Jan 1994 00:51:42 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i4equ$sdm@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <2hphht$1sm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In article <2hphht$1sm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> jimr@shorty.cs.wisc.edu (Jim Robinson) writes: > > Has TeX been ported to NEXTSTEP for intel? I realize most people want > real word processors, but the article made me wonder, since I use TeX > for writing, and have been thinking about moving to NEXTSTEP if I can > afford it. > Yes, TeX comes with the NEXTSTEP distribution in the form of a package. Quite easy to install, and "just works"(tm). Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dmwood@geek.Mines.Colorado.EDU (David M. Wood) Subject: sdformat on Fujitsu M2694ESA Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu Message-ID: <1994Jan26.004442.49779@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 00:44:42 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Colorado School of Mines Keywords: sector reformatting, Fujitsu I would be grateful, and reassured, to hear from anyone who has successfully used Brian Willoughby's new sdformat utility to re-format a Fujitsu M2694ESA drive to 1024-byte sectors. Any pitfalls? --Many thanks! -- David M. Wood Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 e-mail: dmwood@Mines.Colorado.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Rob Heyes) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.2 upgrade: Mouse problem! References: <2i4crs$q0i@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Kallisti Systems Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 01:47:54 +0000 Message-ID: <759574074snx@brewster.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In article <2i4crs$q0i@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes: > > Today I finally upgraded my ALR Evolution to 3.2. The upgrade > went relatively smoothly. > > However, now my Mouse (a PS/2 mouse) feels very sluggish, > somewhat like I remember a serial mouse feels. It used to > be very fast and smooth before the upgrade. > Now it is really hard to work with. > > Has anyone else made that observation? Is there a solution? > > Any help is gladly appreciated, > I just upgraded to 3.2 myself and found that my serial mouse was a lot faster than it used to be! I had a look in Configure.app and noticed that there was a new option for the serial mouse to set the resolution - adjusting this fixed my problem - perhaps there is a similar setting for the PS/2 mouse? Rob Heyes
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SUMMARY [Re: DEC MTE d2 / DPT 2022 SCSI weirdness.] Date: 25 Jan 94 18:39:53 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Jan25183953@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <MCGLK.94Jan22021135@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <MCGLK.94Jan22225220@yang.cpac.washington.edu> In-reply-to: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu's message of 22 Jan 94 22:52:20 I was having a problem with my DPT card---namely, it was stubbornly sitting at SCSI ID 0 (it came out of the box that way) and refused to budge, and DEC's ECU program would allow me to change it, but nope. I finally called DPT product support (something I'd been hoping to avoid, because it's a long-distance call). After 15 minutes on hold, I got a very nice tech rep who told me that the ROMs I had worked on almost every system *but* DEC's MTE series. They were now shipping new ROMs, and I should have them within a couple of days. He *also* told me that DPT now has an actual E-mail address: support@dpt.com. I assume you have to send in the registration card before you can expect help at that address, but at least I don't have to be on long-distance hold anymore. Thanks to all who responded. ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
From: kunal@panix.com (Kunal Singh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: Next Floppy Problem Date: 25 Jan 1994 22:01:04 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <2i4mdg$i83@panix.com> A few days ago, my floppy drive jammed during ejecting a disk. Well, after I finally managed to get the disk out, I realized that the drive mechanism needed fixing. So I fixed it and now the ejection works fine when done manually. But the problem now is that the operating system does not recognize the floppy disk once it is inserted. Does anyone know how the NeXT floppy drive does this ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
From: okerson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (David Okerson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Continuing Mouse Saga Date: 25 Jan 1994 22:02 EDT Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <25JAN199422023195@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: Dell Logitech Mouse Problem News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Taking up our story where we left it yesterday, our hero attempted to deal with the non-functional Dell Logitech mouse (delivered with his 450DE/2 DGX) by bringing to work his Logitech serial mouse. After all, a Microsoft serial mouse had worked fine to finish NEXTSTEP 3.2 installation, and the non-working mouse was a PS2 version. Woe to find that the serial Logitech didn't work either. It would appear that the mouse driver problem concerns (all?) Logitech mice, rather than just PS2 mice.
From: don@b62178.student.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Skewed viewing area Date: 26 Jan 1994 06:15:21 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2i51pp$d8v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Well, anyone know of any means by which I can personallly repair a mono MegaPixel which has a skewed viewing area? That is, the upper right corner of the the viewing area is much nearer the top of the monitor than the upper left. I've checked for EM interference. Later, don...
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Date: 26 Jan 1994 06:35:07 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2i52ur$6be@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2hsmed$m8v@access.digex.net> <CK2CAs.Mr4@dsinc!flash> <saucc00.759434907@DMI.USherb.CA> <jeffo.759481871@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: >Christian Saucier writes: >>I'd be the first one to join in [on a NS/MacPPC port]! >I think this would be a good idea. It would be (hopefully) easy to >configure and run reliably and another port to a popular platform. >Maybe Apple would actually *advertise* it, unlike the so-called Intel >"partners". Doubt it.. your looking at the Apple/Jobs rivalry here. If Steve saw it as a possible coup of Operating Systems, he might be inclined, but I would find it unlikely. Not that politics are ever this simple... -- David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008 Mail: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu NeXTMail: jeske@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mimbeck@mimbeck.hanse.de (Martin Imbeck) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: NeXTstep site Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 20:16:51 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan24.201651.200@mimbeck.hanse.de> Stephan Trebels (trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de) wrote: : I propose to split this group into multiple groups, one : for each kind of hardware NeXTSTEP runs on. e.g. : or comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hppa,sparc,m98k,...,...} Yes, we should do it. -- Martin Imbeck / phone +49-40-874436 / No NeXTmail mimbeck@mimbeck.hanse.de / NeXTstep / please!
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: video modes in NSFIP 3.2 Date: 25 Jan 1994 20:48:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2i40i8$cnh@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2i368g$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Keywords: video tseng colors videomode resolution In article <2i368g$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>, Stefan Wolfrum <wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de> wrote: >Hi there, > >my system is a i486DX2/66 machine, VLB, currently with a TSENG ET4000W32 VLB >card with 1 MB Video RAM (BUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S STILL NO DIAMOND VIPER/ >WEITEK P9000 DRIVER OUT :-( ) and I was wondering why there is only one >driver which supports only 512K of Video RAM which results in only 2 bit >depth, i.e. 4 shades of grey. A simple calculation shows that more could be >possible: > > for example, 1024x768 pixel with one byte per pixel would result > in 768K VRAM needed, so 8bit/pixel, i.e. 256 shades of gray will work > (or even better, 256 colors, but this is not supported by the NeXT > kernel; does anybody know why?), or > [misc math deleted] >Of course we'll have to look at the maximum dot clock the video card can produce >to determine the refresh rate at which the modes could be realized. > >Has anyone out there already made experience with NSFIP 3.2's DriverKit? > The ability of a particular amt of memory to handle NS video is probably very dependant on the architecture of the card. Just because it has enough memory for the bit map at a particular resolution doesn't mean the video chip can unpack and pump the pixels quick enough. Also packing the data into the frame buffer from the CPU side of things might not be very efficient either. Additionally the drivers may use some off screen memory in the video ram for some specialized buffering or similiar. This would raise the overall memory requirements. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS/I 3.2, ProAudio Spectrum 16, and Adaptec Date: 26 Jan 1994 07:55:46 GMT Organization: Gemeinde Wien MD-ADV/Ma; A-1010 Wien; Austria Message-ID: <PFP.94Jan26085546@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> References: <759001187450@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> In-reply-to: olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov's message of Wed, 19 Jan 1994 17:39:47 GMT >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Olson <olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> writes: Bob> Has anyone made this combination work? I have it working find Bob> under DOS and Windows, but under NS I've gotten exactly one Bob> sndplay to work. I have hacked on the PAS driver to unmute Bob> the output source that was muted. However, from watching the Bob> delays in Sound.app I think I may be getting bit by the SCSI Bob> adapter grabbing the bus for too long (as per the following Bob> note from the NextAnswer on the PAS: Bob> On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is Bob> present, the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1-kHz Bob> CD-quality sound. If the Adaptec controller controls the bus Bob> for long periods of time, the Pro Audio Spectrum16 board is Bob> locked out and freezes, which may cause a kernel panic. This Bob> is a hardware problem that has also been discovered in other Bob> 32-bit operating systems. I've got a LogiTech SoundMan 16 (This is a PAS 16 compatibel system without SCSI port) in a 66MHZ EISA system with an AHA1542B and everything works absolutely great. The SoundMan is very cheap, and that was the major reason to buy it! peter -- _ / _ / Peter.Pflaeging@magwien.gv.at / / / / Grabmayrg. 18/6; A-1210 Wien; Austria/Europe ___/ ___/ (Phone) +43 1 387872 or 40133 677 __/eter __/flaeging (Fax) +43 1 4000 7141
From: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NSfIP 3.2 & Tandberg TDC3600 Streamer Date: 26 Jan 1994 08:16:33 GMT Organization: Gemeinde Wien MD-ADV/Ma; A-1010 Wien; Austria Message-ID: <PFP.94Jan26091633@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> I've got a TD3600 Rev. X07 Streamer (SCSI-1, 150MB, QIC). It works great with BSD/386. If I want to use it under NSfIP 3.2, I can manipulate the tape without problems (mt rewind, mt fsf ...), but if I want to write or read something, I get a mode sense failed and a I/O - error! Any suggestions? peter -- _ / _ / Peter.Pflaeging@magwien.gv.at / / / / Grabmayrg. 18/6; A-1210 Wien; Austria/Europe ___/ ___/ (Phone) +43 1 387872 or 40133 677 __/eter __/flaeging (Fax) +43 1 4000 7141
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: SUN moniter on white hardware??? Message-ID: <1994Jan25.215058.692@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <2huuubINNmp3@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:50:58 GMT In article <2huuubINNmp3@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> briggss@mundania.CS.ORST.EDU (S. Briggs) writes: > > Could someone please mail me any information they might have about how > to convert a SUN HM-4119-S-AA-0 19" color moniter to work with a PC SVGA card. > It has five connectors on the back: G, R, B, H/HV, V. I need it to run 1024x > 768 @ 60 mhz or @ 72 mhz, better yet 1280 x 1024 @ 60mhz or 72 mhz. > Thanks in advance, > > Stephen Briggs > -briggss@storm.cs.orst.edu > (please reply by e-mail if possible) No luck, on a PC you need a multisync monitor, because the boot process and the single user mode is in the standard VGA mode. So if you can adjust the sun monitor to the 1024*768 72Hz you wont be able to see anything during boot or in single user. Cheers --Fabien ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: PCI bus drives Message-ID: <1994Jan25.215544.760@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <CK4w8s.BpJ@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 21:55:44 GMT In article <CK4w8s.BpJ@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) writes: > In article <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>, riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) writes: > |> Has anyone been able to load NeXTstep on a PCI local bus drive. > |> > |> Dr. David D. Riley (Dave) > |> Acting Director of Academic Computing > |> University of Wisconsin - La Crosse > |> La Crosse, WI 54601 > > Yeah, I did > > ASUS 486/PCI motherboard > miro 8s/PCI graphic card (waiting for 16s/PCI) > Adaptec 1542cf SCSI-controller > 1GB-IBM-OEM HD > 16 MB (soon 32MB!, though it works ok with 16MB) > > Karsten D. Wolf > (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de) Me also: ASUS Pentium 60MHz/PCI motherboard miro 8s/PCI graphic card (waiting for 16s/PCI) Adaptec 1542B SCSI-controller 1GB-IBM-OEM HD 20 MB memory Screaming fast!!! Cheers --Fabien ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
From: lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com (Lyle Parkyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HD bracket for cube Date: 25 Jan 1994 14:14:29 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2i39g5$8cc@mail.Rogers.Com> References: <CJw3nz.32M@world.std.com> In article <CJw3nz.32M@world.std.com> harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell) writes: :Does anyone know where I can get a HD bracket for my cube. I :tried Bell Atlantic and they said they did not have any. : I recall that any standard HD mount rack will fit. I replaced my 5 1/4 with a 1.2G 3 1/2 and used a general purpose 5 1/4->3 1/2 adaptor mount, worked fine. -- Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome Opinions expressed are my own.
From: lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com (Lyle Parkyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Date: 25 Jan 1994 14:19:11 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Distribution: NA Message-ID: <2i39ov$8ci@mail.Rogers.Com> References: <1994Jan24.161952.843@simplework.octagon.de> In article <1994Jan24.161952.843@simplework.octagon.de> mane@simplework.octagon.de (Mane Wuehr) writes: :I agree!! : On second thought we might need a better arrangement. I am getting tired of sifting through i486 problems in bugs,hardware,software and sysadmin. But breaking these into architecture specific categories seems excessive. Any other thoughts? -- Lyle D. Parkyn (416)250-4810 lparkyn@corpit.cantel.rogers.com NeXT Mail welcome Opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <EPELB5OF@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <CK48zM.ApH@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> <2i0rsj$i10@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:13:23 GMT Art Isbell (art@cubicsol.com) wrote: > I vote for c.n.h.tourists_in_London. This obviously important NEXTSTEP > hardware topic has been responsible for a substantial percentage of quite right, but please moderate this group, so all get what they expect. But as this posting is in this thread, what do you think about the split? even Mark, who doesn't support a split (Hi Mark), agreed, we'll have to much volume soon anyway. So why not do the split now, it take two months anyway. Mark wrote: > Although I do not support a split (yet), the following is *not* a vote of > support: > comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k > comp.sys.next.hardware.i486 > are preferred. No *.misc group since if the information bridges both systems > I'd suggest the poster use cross-posts to get the idea across rather than > creating yet another low volume group as a dumping ground. That's ok with me. Create misc, or leave it, I just compared, what happened in other newsgroups, when they've been split (there's nearly alway been a .misc subgroup). > I chose i486 to > break with the library naming scheme under NeXTSTEP/FIP since the software > does NOT run on a 386 at all and this would just make for confusion. I wouldn't like that too much. Look into the mach headers and manpages concerning hardware architectures (man 3 arch, and <mach/machine.h>) from arch.3 i386 CPU_TYPE_I386 CPU_SUBTYPE_I386_ALL Intel 80x86 i486 CPU_TYPE_I386 CPU_SUBTYPE_486 Intel 486 The different modules in a i386 library can be compiled to contain i486 code, but the cpu type is still i386 with subtype i486. a Pentium belongs to i386 but doesn't belong to i486, it's another subtype :-) So I'd prefer to stick to i386, or the descriptions generated by NXGetAllArchInfos(). Perhaps NeXT decides some day, the newest 200MHz 386 clone is worth replacing those two processor commands, that were introduced with the i486 by software. who knows... We both want to avoid confusion, but mach always uses i386, exactly like NeXT. Therefore I still prefer i386, but this would have to be part of a FAQ anyway. > An > alternative would be: > comp.sys.next.hardware.black > white > gecko > alpha > sun-stroke > myrias > cray > tron > i-dont-know-what-hardware-i-have > since It would be *cool* to break from the stodgy x### naming scheme to show > that we can be even geekier! hmm, that's a joke?!? I strongly believe in standards, so if I've seen *one* csnh newsgroup, I know the names of all, there could be. how should anyone know, the group concerning the HP9000/735 is called gecko (this fits best). I hope, that's a joke. ciao, stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: btf64@cas.org (Bernard T. French) Subject: Suggestions for a 600MB-1.2GB Hard Disk Message-ID: <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> Sender: usenet@chemabs.uucp Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:03:54 GMT I must first apologize for not paying more attention to these types of requests from earlier postings, but who would have guessed that my wife would offer to buy me an external hard disk for my birthday. She being the computer type, such that when she first encountered a mouse, she picked it up and waved it in the air and wondered why the cursor didn't move. :-) I'm looking for recommendations for an external hardisk in the 600MB-1.2GB range for my Mono NeXTstation (25MHz). I'm looking for a device that cost around $1000.00 or less. Thanks! -- Bernie +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | REWARD: Lost .sig, last seen in comp.sys.* or bionet.*, answers to | | the name btf64@cas.org | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: Re: video modes in NSFIP 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Jan26.134526.4166@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <2i368g$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> <2i40i8$cnh@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 13:45:26 GMT Jerry Weiss (jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote: : The ability of a particular amt of memory to handle NS video is probably : very dependant on the architecture of the card. Just because it has enough : memory for the bit map at a particular resolution doesn't mean the video : chip can unpack and pump the pixels quick enough. Also packing the data : into the frame buffer from the CPU side of things might not be very : efficient either. Additionally the drivers may use some off screen memory : in the video ram for some specialized buffering or similiar. This would : raise the overall memory requirements. Just a data point: The S3 driver in 3.2 also supports some ISA cards in 8bit greyscale and even 16bit color. E.g. the miro 8s ISA makes 800x600x16bit color and 1024x768x8bit greyscale with only 1MB DRAM. And I think the miro has to go through the 64K hole, too. So it should be possible to do they same with an ET4000 (btw., the S3 drivers is there in the source with 3.2) Gregor | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: KURS14@novsrv2.sem.univie.ac.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanner HPIIcx and image apps Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:03:17 GMT Organization: Vienna University Computer Center Message-ID: <KURS14.2.759592997@novsrv2.sem.univie.ac.at> Keywords: scanner, image processing I am interested in purchasing a HPIIcx or another good, fast scanner. My main application would be scanning of images and processing them in the following way: Extracting an object (e.g. face) and generating a minimum sized tiff-file with only the objects pixels left opaque. All remaining background pixels should be fully transparent. Which image app directly supports scanning (e.g. with the HP) and the process I mentioned above in a very comfortable way? Please answer also to: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at Thanks, Lucas Filz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: Re: video bench results SUMMARY (was Re: #9GXE benchmark) Message-ID: <1994Jan26.151957.9671@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <1994Jan25.212442.15152@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> <1994Jan25.213557.15389@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 15:19:57 GMT Ok, I don't think that all of us like these benchmark posts, but since there was a certain interest in the miro 32s cards, I'll post my results. Please note the overall performance difference compared to the first machines. I had the card only for a short while, so maybe I missed something. (BTW the 8s seems to be good value for the money). I'll double check with my friend, but I don't think he has achieved a significant performance gain in the meantime ;-( NXBench NST GEC eCesys JCIS ATI ATI miro miro tests color #9GXE Wingin Wingin GUPr3 GUPr3 32s 8s ========================================================================= Dhrystone 26455 56179 60120 60483 62240 56497 55865 55800 line 0.610 0.694 0.758 0.748 0.680 0.614 0.507 0.305 arc/bezier 0.605 0.644 0.727 0.714 0.652 0.574 0.483 0.281 fill 0.453 0.501 0.545 0.546 0.514 0.474 0.415 0.289 transform 0.899 1.337 1.663 1.622 1.483 1.364 1.196 1.066 composite 0.472 0.532 0.638 0.636 0.579 0.495 0.407 0.266 userpath 1.028 1.452 1.623 1.652 1.486 1.406 1.014 0.876 text 0.360 0.490 0.529 0.529 0.496 0.469 0.419 0.322 window 0.318 0.355 0.324 0.390 0.356 0.285 0.253 0.144 0.78 0.710 0.587 0.444 5.) 6.) 7.) 8.) Xres 1024x 1024x 1408x 800x Yres 768 768 1024 600 Depth 16bit ~ ~ ~ Refr.rate 72Hz 76Hz 66Hz 60Hz 5.) EISA/VL, SIS Chipset, DX2/66, 32MB, 256K Cache ATI GUP VL r3 (2MB VRAM) DPT2021 Logitech,PAS16,EtherExpress 16 6.) ISA-VL, SIS, DX2/66, 16MB, 256K ATI GUP VL r3 AHA1542B + IBM 1GB 7.) ISA-VL, UMC, DX2/66, 16MB, 256K miro 32s VLB (4MB VRAM) IDE 200MB 8.) as 7.) but miro 8s VLB (1MB DRAM) -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 07:27:29 EST From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Message-ID: <94026.072729HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Floptical and black hardware... Hi! Has anyone out there in black hardware land got a PLI floptical drive working with NS? Specifically NS3.0, 3.1? If so, do Mac flopticals mount in the Workspace without problems? Any comments on speeds, other floptical makes etc. would be appreciated. <My optical is dying. long live the optical> Rob Harrap Geological Sciences Queen's University Kingston, Ont. harrap@geol.queensu.ca
From: ee_d277@king.ac.uk (> Andrew Coyte <) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need to find LCD PC-compatible touch-screen keyboard Date: 26 Jan 1994 15:47:18 GMT Organization: Kingston University, Kingston-upon-Thames Message-ID: <2i63a6$a4j@mercury.king.ac.uk> I work for a company who produce custom made tills for Bar/Restaurant and Golf Club shop environments. I have been instructed to re-design the existing 2 till designs with some- thing more aesthetically pleasing... At present, the tills contain 286/386 motherboards + VDU + Printer + 1 or 2 keyboards. The keyboards are run from an expansion card. We are looking into the possibility of using LCD touch-screen type displays (like they have at a certain Mc-popular high street fast food chain) provided 1) The cost is right and 2) They are PC-programmable Does anyone out there know of any manufacturers who may be able to provide these displays??? My company is based in London, England, but ANY supplier will do. Thanks for your attention. Andrew Coyte. ee_d277@kingston.ceres.ac.uk
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Skewed viewing area Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 10:28:03 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MhFck3_00Uh_826=8e@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2i51pp$d8v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Jan-94 Skewed viewing area by Donald J. Siegel@b62178. > Well, anyone know of any means by which I can personallly repair a mono > MegaPixel which has a skewed viewing area? That is, the upper right corner > of the the viewing area is much nearer the top of the monitor than the > upper left. Assuming that the display is tilted (the lower right corner is FARTHER from the bottom then the lower left corner), then your problem is "easily" repairable. Consult the FAQ for directions on how to adjust these monitors. Following all precautions listed for high voltage, what you need to do is go inside the inner box and adjust the yoke by rotating it until the display is no longer skewed. The yoke is the set of copper wire coils that surround the CRT tube. It should be held in place with a hex/phillips head nut. Make certain that you only rotate the yoke and not move it forwards or backwards, or else you will mangle the entire alignment of the monitor. Note that this procedure is *DANGEROUS* and you can really do a good job of electrocuting yourself, so I disclaim any responsibility for your actions. It might be better to have a TV repairman deal with this, as it should be a simple job to someone familiar with CRT's. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | 1. You can't fly. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 2. Cars are always real. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. --------------------------------------------+ 4. Fire burns.
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI GUP on PCI WORKS!!! ,any interest ? Date: 26 Jan 1994 17:14:17 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2i68d9$p4j@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hy, with a friend I hacked the ATI Demo Driver in the Driver Kit to work with PCI. This was no great deal, we only had to patch the memory aperature adress. If there is any interest we could produce a little howto text and a diff. But be awared, because we had no documentation about the card, except the adress of the memory aperature it now works only for a adress of 1024MB and a Port adress of 0x2e0 with the ATI 68875 DAC. This was hardcoded in my card. I do not know if this is the case for all ATI OEM PCI cards. But if you understand a little C you should get your values hardcoded in, too. Oh by the way we get all supported ATI resolutions. I now write this at 1120x832/16Bit. So keep in mind, its a hack. Ask only if you are sure about your values or you have documentation to the registers of ATI OEM Mach32 PCI Cards. If there is interest, we will produce a patch. If anyone has docs for the registers, a self configuring solution is possible. Or you wait for NeXT drivers, for which the HardwareGuide says: 1 Quarter 94. I think NeXT will do it more professional and maybe they can use the PCI Bus better. My Board has PCI Burst enabled and we get an NXFactor of 0.84. I do not know if this is the last word. Remember we had no documentation, except the card manual which described how to install the windows drivers (:-) . Bye then .... Axel Habermann, Alexander Keiblinger ... -- "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? (nope) Message-ID: <0VELB1NS@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1994Jan25.182241.13942@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 16:20:42 GMT Eric's NeXT Fortune (fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote: > Instead of breaking this group up, why not include the architecture > in the Subject for each post. Such as "Audio problem [m68k]" or > "Audio problem [intel]".....ad infinitum. Instructions for this > could be included in the monthly "Guide to the NeXT newsgroups" posting. That's ok, if there are just one or two. So why did we split comp.sys.next? We could have put [hardware,m68k] [sysadm] [advocacy] into the subject line :-) I know, this is one of the suggestions in the faq, what to do instead of creating a new newsgroup. NeXT knew, why they created a full section in the NeXTanswers named Intel_Configuration_Information. These messages clearly belong together, flooding this group. I understand the postings, see they're neccessary, but I'm not interested so much just now. I've configured Intel based PC's for some time, but would like some WhatYouGetIsWhatYouWant groups. I like to see on screen of related topics on the screen, when I enter a new newsgroup, not two completely different topics mixed. That's like reading a book on axiomatic quantum field theory and constructive quantum field theory mixed. Even if each page was flagged AQFT or XQFT, I'd get mad. Sorry, if you think, this example is inappropriate ;-) > Those who are in too much of a hurry > to "wade" through all of the posts about hardware architectures > they aren't interested in could quickly weed out the appropriate > posts, and people like me, who would subscribe to all of the Ok, I could use kill files, missing posts with mixed subjects, and getting all postings with improper subject line. Anyway, that's a kludge. I also read all m68k and part of i386 hardware posting, but I want to be able to read them separatly. It's like chapters in a book. But of course, once we'd all agree, we don't want a split, I'd ask for a Subject split. That's better than nothing, but still annoying! > By keeping this newsgroup intact, questions such as "Which is the > best hardware for my problem" would have a newsgroup, instead of > having to cross post all of the various hardware architectures. Hmmm, 1) how often have you seen such a posting? 2) would such a posting really belong into the hardware group (even now)? Think, you've got a problem, and you want some software to solve it. This software requires some hardware, ok, but why not csn.software or .misc. Best Regards, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@amber.hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Subject: Re: Suggestions for a 600MB-1.2GB Hard Disk Message-ID: <1994Jan26.171720.16609@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 17:17:20 GMT I just purchased the Micropolis 2217/15. It's a 3.5 inch, 5400 RPM, 10ms, 1.7 gig drive (formatted). It cost $1100 from SAG Electronics. It is tiny, VERY quiet, and seems quite fast. I am very pleased with it. - db In article <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> btf64@cas.org (Bernard T. French) writes: > > I must first apologize for not paying more attention to these types of > requests from earlier postings, but who would have guessed that my wife would > offer to buy me an external hard disk for my birthday. She being the computer > type, such that when she first encountered a mouse, she picked it up and waved > it in the air and wondered why the cursor didn't move. :-) > > I'm looking for recommendations for an external hardisk in the 600MB-1.2GB > range for my Mono NeXTstation (25MHz). I'm looking for a device that cost > around $1000.00 or less. > > Thanks! > > -- Bernie > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | REWARD: Lost .sig, last seen in comp.sys.* or bionet.*, answers to | > | the name btf64@cas.org | > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- But this one flack, speaking valiantly to the press in the moments after the Hindenburg of Canadian electoral crashes, was adamant that Canadians [...] had offered the Tories (get this) an "opportunity". An opportunity to feel stupid and unwanted? -- Montreal Mirror on the Tories losing 156 seats
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin) Subject: Re: PCI NCR-SCSI Message-ID: <1994Jan26.063351.691@talus.com> Sender: sam@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <1994Jan24.172352.53@mimbeck.hanse.de> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 06:33:51 GMT In article <1994Jan24.172352.53@mimbeck.hanse.de> mimbeck@mimbeck.hanse.de (Martin Imbeck) writes: | I heard some rumor about a company developing a driver for | the onboard ncr-scsi chip on most of the pci-boards. Is | anyone able to tell me more? | Not a rumor. It's true. NCR53C810 is the chip. I'm the developer. Not a joke. Watch out --- -- Semyon Sosin Talus Imaging Corp. - Houston Bureau <sam@talus.com> (NeXT mail accepted) ph: (713)561-0700 10602 Chapel Hill Dr. Houston Tx. 77099
Message-ID: <32%@byu.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 13:18:18 MST From: yackd@maine.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Distribution: world References: <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <CJxytE.Kz7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) In article <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com>, choyt@boi.hp.com (Craig Hoyt) writes: >benjamin bernhard (bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote: >: Do you remember Next's add-on prices? Equally high. HP is not in the >: business of selling ram or hard drives. Their value-added is not in >: sales, but in engeneering. > >--Well, actually, it's both. We ARE in the business of selling >disk drives and there IS engineering value added. Also added >is the high quality and superb warranty. Ah, but I can get equally high quality and a lifetime warranty from Kensington, and pay only about 1/2 Hp's Edu price. I say the prices are set super high to encourage us to buy elsewhere. Or a _really_ dumb marketing department. On our snakes here, I don't see any value in the HP simms beyond what the rest of our memory has, and we aren't about to pay for value that isn't there, to be sure! So we buy the minimum config and get the memory and disk from people who can set reasonable pricing... -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing. don@darth.byu.edu (My NeXT at home. Send me NeXTMail. Pleeeease.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: NS/I 3.2, ProAudio Spectrum 16, and Adaptec Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Distribution: na Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 16:14:55 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan26.161455.27780@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <759001187450@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes: >However, from watching the delays in Sound.app I think I may be >getting bit by the SCSI adapter grabbing the bus for too long (as per >the following note from the NextAnswer on the PAS: > > On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is present, > the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1-kHz CD-quality > sound. If the Adaptec controller controls the bus for long > periods of time, the Pro Audio Spectrum16 board is locked out > and freezes, which may cause a kernel panic. This is a > hardware problem that has also been discovered in other 32-bit > operating systems. > >Hmm, on reading this again that might not be it, since I don't get a >panic, just lack of sound. This problem occurs at 22KHz as well, the NextAnswer is being generous. Since I am using a higher priority (hardware) Interrupt, I could hope that the PAS would take priority, but the sound slp level is lower than the disk I guess ... As per the lack of sound, pop into your Preference.App and move the volume back up again. Periodically it will drop down for no apparent reason. Ciao -- Mark
From: halli@blondie.STD.Teradyne.COM (Kenn Halliwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Sun to NeXT data transfer Date: 26 Jan 1994 15:29:49 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401262129.AA00730@blondie.std.teradyne.com> I'm trying to find a source for transferring data from a 1/4" tape cartridge generated on a Sun workstation to an optical drive on a NeXT. What I think I need is a Sun/RS6000/DG Avion on a network along with a NeXT with the optical drive. ftp the data Sun-to-NeXT, etc. Does anyone have this capability or know of a service that does? Is there any way to mount a hard drive from a Sun on a NeXT. That is, can I take a hard drive that has been formatted and file system'd by a Sun, plug it into a NeXT, and have the NeXT access it? If you say yes, have you done it? Last question. Does the NeXT have support for a QIC-150 tape drive? Could I take my Sun`s tape drive to the NeXT and expect it to work? If you say yes, have you done it? If you can answer these questions or direct me to some one who can, I'd be most grateful. John FusionGraphics reply to: fusiong@std.teradyne.com /*all other addresses do not work
From: tec@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy E. Cushing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: format Maxtor 1.0G with 1k blocks? Date: 26 Jan 1994 21:18:20 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2i6mmu$657@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I'm adding an Andataco 1G drive to a NEXTstation (color/25MHz) and trying to change the low level format to use 1024 byte blocks. Actually, I'm moving it from a SPARC1 to the NeXT, and have already done a BuildDisk on it since the apparent 4096 byte block structure was not acceptable to NS. I got sdformat off the net (manpage says "Copyright 4/1993 through 1/1994") and got the following 'no can do' results. Anyone know if there is something needed special for this drive? Also, the sdformat manpage mentions that 2048 is a popular block size -- can NS handle this? Thanks -- Timothy E. Cushing tec@alta.com tec@alumni.caltech.edu (forwarded to alta.com) ================================================== # sdformat -i4 -b1024 -v _______ INQUIRY Peripheral Device Type: 0x0 (read/write disk) Removable Media: No Device-Type Modifier: 0x0 ISO Version: 0 ECMA Version: 0 ANSI-Approved Version: SCSI 1 Additional Length: 31 Vendor Identification: 'MAXTOR ' Product Identification: 'P0-12S ' Product Revision Level: 'JB21' Vendor Specific: '...octal...' Reserved: '...octal...' Vendor-Specific Parameters: '' __________ MODE SENSE Medium Type: 00h Write Protect: No Block Descriptor Length = 8 Density Code: Default (only one density supported) Number of Blocks = 2027067 Block Length = 512 You have requested a change in the Block Length from 512 bytes to 1024 bytes. Are you sure? y Mode Sense... Mode Select... Mode Sense... Warning: Mode Select command was unable to change to requested Block Length ==================================================
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MicroTech Eclipse DAT Drive owners? Date: 26 Jan 1994 22:09:07 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <2i6pm3$9r@steffi.demon.co.uk> If anybody has one of these drives can you get in touch with me. Cheers. -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "Nothing" Charade, 1963 robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages)
From: randy@text3.psych.umn.edu (Charles R. Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hayes Smartmodem 1200 w/ NeXTSstation? Message-ID: <CK9CsA.DF@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: 26 Jan 94 22:17:33 GMT Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities I have an old Hayes Smartmodem 1200 that is just collecting dust. If I take it home and attach it to my NeXTstation, will it work? I don't need fax capability. I don't even need to dial in to it. But it would be nice if I could dial out to download an occasional file and check my e-mail. Thanks-- Randy Fletcher
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.2 upgrade: Mouse problem! Date: 26 Jan 1994 22:43:44 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i6rn0$1a6@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <759574074snx@brewster.demon.co.uk> In article <759574074snx@brewster.demon.co.uk> rob@brewster.demon.co.uk (Rob Heyes) writes: > In article <2i4crs$q0i@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes: > > > > Today I finally upgraded my ALR Evolution to 3.2. The upgrade > > went relatively smoothly. > > > > However, now my Mouse (a PS/2 mouse) feels very sluggish, > > somewhat like I remember a serial mouse feels. It used to > > be very fast and smooth before the upgrade. > > Now it is really hard to work with. > > > > Has anyone else made that observation? Is there a solution? > > > > Any help is gladly appreciated, > > > I just upgraded to 3.2 myself and found that my serial mouse was a lot > faster than it used to be! > > I had a look in Configure.app and noticed that there was a new option > for the serial mouse to set the resolution - adjusting this fixed my > problem - perhaps there is a similar setting for the PS/2 mouse? > Now, that is interesting. It seems they "fixed" something to improve the serial mouse, and broke the PS/2 mouse in the process. The "resolution" is not what makes it slow. It is the rate at which the cursor position is updated. It seems not to be determined by the driver, but rather somewhere else (like, the windowmanager?). I found that out by replacing the driver with the old one. The mouse was still jittery. Does anyone know where the cursor update rate is determined, and how it could possibly be changed? Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: How to restore NSi boot ? Message-ID: <1994Jan27.000420.14700@news.csuohio.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Cleveland State University References: <2h0jne$t04@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 00:04:20 GMT dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu wrote: : I have NSI 3.2 installed on a disk with a small DOS partition. However : when I went to update DOS to 6.2, it wiped out the NSI boot that lets you : choose DOS or NSI. How can I restore this ? NB: if I make the NSI partition : active NSI boots fine, but if I then want DOS, I have to boot from a floppy : and use FDISK to make the DOS partition active. This is not a problem. Go in as Root or SU in a terminal window and use the FDISK command to set the NeXT Partition active. When you installed DOS it set the DOS partition to active. Here is the syntax: 1. For and IDE drive: fdisk /dev/rhd0h -setNeXTActive 2. For SCSI drive: fdisk /dev/rsd0h -setNeXTActive Please note that you are using raw device terminology, so /dev/rsd0h instead of /dev/sd0a, for example. This action has worked perfectly for me. Best of luck to ya. You should only have to do this once after installing DOS, unless you reinstall DOS Again, in which case, you can do the above steps again. Cowboy
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions for a 600MB-1.2GB Hard Disk Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 16:52:23 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IhFiMLq00iV3A9d11X@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Jan-94 Suggestions for a 600MB-1.2.. by Bernard T. French@cas.or > I must first apologize for not paying more attention to these types of > requests from earlier postings, but who would have guessed that my wife > would offer to buy me an external hard disk for my birthday. She being the > computer type, such that when she first encountered a mouse, she picked it > up and waved it in the air and wondered why the cursor didn't move. :-) > > I'm looking for recommendations for an external hardisk in the > 600MB-1.2GB range for my Mono NeXTstation (25MHz). I'm looking for a > device that cost around $1000.00 or less. Well, I've just purchased a Micropolis 2117 (? not sure of the exact model #), which formats to 1050MB, 10ms access time, with 5 year warranty, for a grand total of $1019.50 (including drive, case, cable, shipping, the whole works.) This drive is also available in an "a/v" version that does TCAL (thermal recalibration) very well, which is crucial for people doing real-time video/audio reproduction. It got an honorable mention from Byte's September '93 disk drive comparison. Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | 1. You can't fly. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 2. Cars are always real. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. --------------------------------------------+ 4. Fire burns.
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN support?? Date: 27 Jan 1994 00:57:23 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2i73hj$di8@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Is there ISDN support for white hardware? What about for black, is there still ISDN hardware still available for the Slabs? Thanks in advance, Tal Lancaster --
The Principal from "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer", "I think the students learned an important lesson on safety." ########################################################################### #################################################################### From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to get Pentium/PCI machine with miro graphics card Date: 27 Jan 1994 02:14:42 GMT Organization: University of Washington Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2i782i$3mv@news.u.washington.edu> References: <CJA3x9.5Dx@serveme.wwa.com> <2gl9gh$nmi@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> dan@dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu writes: >In <CJA3x9.5Dx@serveme.wwa.com>, jdawson@gagme.wwa.com (Jerald W Dawson) writes: >)I'm looking to purchase a Pentium machine with the specifications listed >) Pentium with PCI slots >) miro Crystal graphics card >) 32 meg ram >) SCSI card that supports NeXTSTEP >) 21" color monitor (or at lease 17" if the 21 is too expensive) >) Don't need hardrive, I have a 1.2 gig drive burning a hole on my desk >) NS/fIP preinstalled > This last bit is kinda interesting. I suppose you are going to send >the drive to them for the install... > I thought the deal with the PCI was that one should wait another few >months because of bugs in the Intel PCI support chips. PCI 2.0 reportedly has fixed those bugs (InfoWorld, Jan '94) that were common in PCI 1.0. However, some companies (i.e. Gateway 2000) don't indicate in their ads if they are shipping 1.0 or 2.0. Even my sales rep doesn't know, in fact, he never heard of PCI 2.0 until I informed him... My advice is that you buy a Pentium make sure that you get PCI 2.0. This version of PCI processes at 64 bits, while version 1.0 processes at 32 bits.... ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all? Message-ID: <1994Jan27.022644.11835@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <CJzDMG.CJn@carmen.logica.co.uk> <2i36tn$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 02:26:44 GMT In article <2i36tn$5h@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de writes: >I don't know what chip works on the Wingine, but someone has to convince >me that there is something faster than the DIAMOND VIPER VLB with the >Weitek Power 9000 chip. Although there's no driver for NSFIP 3.2 yet >(but announced within Q1 '94) under MS Windows scrolling of text, which >is in fact a source-destination-bitblt as is the moving of NeXTstep >windows, is blindingly fast!!! The virtue of the Wingine is that it doesn't have a "chip"! That is to say, it doesn't have a Windows GUI accelerator chip. It has fast access to VRAM from the processor/memory bus (VLB/PCI/etc.). The P9000 is a wonderful 8-bit Windows accelerator chip. Unfortunately, it is only mediocre on pixel sizes greater than 8-bit. And I'm only talking Windows here. The P9000 will probably be completely ignored for the 1Q94 driver. On NEXTSTEP, the most important metric is the bandwidth to VRAM. Maybe someday soon the window server and drivers will cooperate to take advantage of blitting hardware, hardware cursors, single pixel vectors, etc., but currently, that's not the case. When you drag a window around on NEXTSTEP, it's the CPU that's doing the work. Weitek has announced the P9100 which addresses the 8-bit limitation by going to a full 24-bit wide pixel channel (again, this is the sort of stuff you learn by reading comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video). I don't know when we'll see product, but probably the same time we see the mach64 and MGA++, so there will be plenty of fast chips to choose from. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which to buy......black or white? Date: 27 Jan 1994 03:00:09 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2i7anp$4cg@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2h7num$3e2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <CJpKC9.6JF@pdh.com> jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) writes: >Todd Takken writes: >> Ian Patrick Cardenas writes: >> > >> > I think the subject says it all. [munch] *sigh* I need >> > help...I'm a software kinda guy lost in a hardware world. >> >> Think about software if you buy white. Where are you going to >> get a good word processor? >And where will you get a good word processor for a black machine, >pray tell? One that is supported? My opinion would be to get a >white machine and install both DOS/Windows and NeXTSTEP. NeXTSTEP, >IMHO, is for software development (custom applications) at this >moment in time. If a groundswell occurs in the next year or so, >there might be a resurgence in shrink-wrap apps, but that is a ways >out in the future. Use Windows - uggh - and Microsoft Word and >Excel and things like that for your everyday office work, or use >Framemaker on Windows which will be supported (whereas Framemaker >on NeXT is in doubt), etc. Use NeXTSTEP to build the best custom >apps you can in the shortest possible time. I wish it wasn't like >that, but it is. >Jon Rosen I agree with Jon on his points here. I've been waiting for a few months now for GOD to wave his hand and announce a box that will do everything that this discussion is speaking to, but unfortunately, this has not happened as of 1/26/94. Therefore, I will do my everyday stuff with the "devil that we all know" (i.e. windows/dos) and customize via NS3.2. ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.linux.development Subject: Second and 3-rd VLB Video cards for Non-Workspace use? Date: 27 Jan 1994 03:22:43 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i7c23$pk4@agate.berkeley.edu> I would like to add 2-nd and possiblely 3-rd VLB video cards with fast direct access of VRAM from the PC's CPU (like Wingine) under NEXTSTEP or Linux. However, I do NOT want these additional video boards to become part of Workspace served by the WindowServer (or X server). I would like to access them outside of the WindowServer/DPS as custom devices. There will not be any GUI stuff on them, i.e., no windows there. Do any of video cards allow multiple instances on a single machine, i.e., I/O addresses, BIOS and VRAM ranges configurable to non-overlapping areas? I know that some of the high-end cards that use TMS340 series processors can be used this way, but their VRAM typically is not accessible directly from the bus (not fast enough anyway). I am looking for NON-accelerated video boards with VRAM mapped directly into CPU's address space. Any suggestions appreciated. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Date: 26 Jan 1994 09:43:43 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2i5afv$1hg@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <espritCK44G8.Hy7@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: >I strongly support splitting c.s.n.hardware. Just an another opinion. It's my opinion, too. c.s.n.h.<arch> makes sense. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXT floptical and sampling Message-ID: <CK83xD.190@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <CK3q8M.1nJ@cc.umontreal.ca> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 06:12:49 GMT In article <CK3q8M.1nJ@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes: #Can someone who has hardware on their NeXT to sample #at 44.1Khz, 16bits stereo tell me if their Floptical #is fast enough to save all the incoming data in real #time? I have done it with no problems. I haven't tried it for more than a coupe of minutes though. # #Also, is the floptical fast enough to continuously read #44.1Khz 16 bit stereo samples from floptical to main #memory or dig-to-analog converter? I found it fast enough to play directly from the optical w/out drop outs provided the file isn't severly fragmented, which usually isn't the case. # #Lastly: What is the cheapest way I can get my NeXT cube #to sample at "CD" rates, or even accept the digital out #of my CD player? If the answer is "Buy an Atari Falcon" #that's not so bad :) I have a better solution, buy the same type of interfaces available for the Falcon. Msot will work since the Falcon uses a NeXT compatible DSP port. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: DPT 2022 Failures Date: 27 Jan 1994 02:51:53 GMT Organization: Proxima, Inc. Message-ID: <2i7a89$nb1@hecate.umd.edu> Summary: DPT just can't seem to get it right. We've fielded over 120 machines (Intel Pro/GX) with DPT2022 controllers and various hard drives. We've run the gambit in firmware (from 5A through many engineering revs to the latest). We've spoken with just about everyone in a technical and managment position within DPT. And still, the intermittent failures we experience with these controllers are far from being solved. Anyone figured out the "working" combination? Currently, we have the best luck with the Quantum LPS drive series, but also use DEC DSP (fast, very fast), and Maxtor. -Eric Litman Proxima, Inc.
Organization: Ege University - Computing Center Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 16:20:53 TUR From: <BILAME@TREARN.BITNET> Message-ID: <94024.162054BILAME@TREARN.BITNET> Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.infosystems,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NIXDROFF v.24 port comminication I need any knowledges about NIXDROFF miniframe system's v.24 port installation and customization. I want to connect a check reader to NIXDROFF via V.24 port and to write a interface utility. Can you send samples which are written by assembly or anyone else? Greetings.. -A.Murat Ergin bilame@trearn.bitnet bilame@vm3090.ege.edu.tr
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel based NeXT; What to buy? Date: 27 Jan 1994 08:13:15 GMT Organization: GMI, Flint, MI Message-ID: <2i7t2r$7qs@zip.eecs.umich.edu> > For 16 bit - 24 Mb ok, 32 bit, 32 Mb better??? Excuse me if I'm wrong, but bit field depth has nothing whatsoever to do with the CPU's main memory. For 32 bits at 1280x1024, however, I believe you need at least 6 if not 8 Mb of _VRAM_. Thanks. -- #include <std.disclaimer.h>; cat all.flames > /dev/null; _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown | | | | EE / Comp. Sci Student at GMI, Flint, MI \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any rumors on "clock doubled" 040's? Date: 25 Jan 1994 23:53:02 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Distribution: World Message-ID: <BWH.94Jan25185302@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <CK76KE.IJ0@news2.cis.umn.edu> In-reply-to: Douglas B. Moore's message of Tue, 25 Jan 1994 18:12:12 GMT Last I heard Motorola was pretty much abandoning development of the 680x0 line in favor of the PowerPC. 68K chips are going to continue to be manufactured, but future R&D will be emphasized in the PPC. As far as I know, and it's been a LONG time since I've heard anything about the 68K line in the way of new news, Motorola will be releasing a 68060 and that will be the end of it. Brian -- -------------- Brian Hook "Computer graphics: the only field in bwh@cis.ufl.edu computer science where if it looks right, then it IS right." -- paraphrase
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: audio@netmbx.netmbx.de (Audioland Medienproduktion GmbH) Subject: Re: NS/I 3.2, ProAudio Spectrum 16, and Adaptec Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:28:19 GMT Message-ID: <HQFLBC7R@netmbx.netmbx.de> References: <759001187450@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> <PFP.94Jan26085546@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) writes: >>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Olson <olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> writes: > Bob> Has anyone made this combination work? I have it working find > Bob> under DOS and Windows, but under NS I've gotten exactly one > Bob> sndplay to work. I have hacked on the PAS driver to unmute > Bob> the output source that was muted. However, from watching the > Bob> delays in Sound.app I think I may be getting bit by the SCSI > Bob> adapter grabbing the bus for too long (as per the following > Bob> note from the NextAnswer on the PAS: > Bob> On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is > Bob> present, the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1-kHz > Bob> CD-quality sound. If the Adaptec controller controls the bus > Bob> for long periods of time, the Pro Audio Spectrum16 board is > Bob> locked out and freezes, which may cause a kernel panic. This > Bob> is a hardware problem that has also been discovered in other > Bob> 32-bit operating systems. >I've got a LogiTech SoundMan 16 (This is a PAS 16 compatibel system >without SCSI port) in a 66MHZ EISA system with an AHA1542B and >everything works absolutely great. The SoundMan is very cheap, and >that was the major reason to buy it! I have worked with the following combination: Gigabyte 486/Eisa/VLB Motherboard with 32 MB ATI Ultra Pro 2 MB Eisa Adaptec 1542c Pro Audio 16 Basic It works fine after i change the DMA channel of the PAS card. With the default it doesn't make any correct sound. Bye, ALF. -------------------------- Alf Zimmermann, Audioland International GmbH von Bargen Str. 32-34, 22041 Hamburg audio@netmbx.netmbx.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Dot matrix printer drivers Organization: ADEC Systems Inc. Distribution: na Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 20:51:30 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan26.205130.28355@ve6mgs.ampr.org> References: <2hk5r2INN5kk@network.ucsd.edu> ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) writes: >My situation is that I have a Canon BJ200, which is Proprinter compatible. >The Next supplied driver works okay, but only seems to support 180dpi. That is all this, and the other dot matrix printers are realy capable of. The additional effort to use their 360dpi capability is not worth it since non of these printers are allowed to have two 360dpi dots next to eachother. This means to do 360dpi, one would have to run two passes (typically) to catch all the horizontal dot positions. There is not enough print head resolution to do this accurately on two passes. In addition, the already painfully slow printing that 24 pin printers do, would more than double the time to print (I walk away and come back *much* later when I do colour 24 pin pages) with no apparent increase in resolution (due to the print head resolution) ... The NeXT box could handle the problem rendering an image in core, I guess, but swapping would be the name of the game, making it still slower trying to create the raster image for the printer. This is all defeatest, I guess ... Besides, I don't know why you would want 360dpi for a printer that has dots in the order of .005" in diameter ... Ciao -- Mark
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cheap modems? Date: 27 Jan 1994 13:08:26 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Message-ID: <2i8eca$3id@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Pardon me for bothering this group with a non-NeXT question, but I seem to remember someone here mentioning a 14.4K modem (Zoom perhaps?) and a supplier for around $99. I can't locate the supplier anywhere. I would appreciate it if someone could e-mail the supplier. Thanks in advance. Dr. David D. Riley (Dave) Computer Science Professor Acting Director of Academic Computing University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, WI 54601
From: ponchy_c@epita.fr (cedric ponchy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Date: 25 Jan 1994 18:50:05 GMT Organization: Epita (French engineering school) Message-ID: <PONCHY_C.94Jan25185005@epita.fr> References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <CEDMAN.94Jan23112035@capitalist.princeton.edu> In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Sun, 23 Jan 1994 16:20:35 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Jan23112035@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: [munch...munch...] In article <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: some time ago, when we had only one hardware, one group for hardware questions may have been appropriate, but now times have changed. SPLIT THIS GROUP NOW! [Where Carl and other people brilliantly explained why c.s.n.h should be splitted] Again, I volunteer to do the vote taking, if nobody else feels the urge to do so. Carl Edman PS: You should cross-post your original RFD to news.announce.newgroups. You're right. 2 different architectures (and more soon) need 2 different newsgroups. -- -- Cedric "ponpon" PONCHY //\\Oo//\\ "to be or not to be? Not to be..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ e-mail: ponpon@free.fdn.org (NeXTMail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ascoli@lorienne.oleane.com (Frederic Ascoli) Subject: Need color scanner Message-ID: <1994Jan27.142620.9945@lorienne.oleane.com> Sender: ascoli@lorienne.oleane.com Organization: LORIENNE (France) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 14:26:20 GMT Does any body know how to get the list of the color scanners (600 dpi) supported by NeXTstep FIP ? I'll be interested by any information. -- Fr d ric Ascoli NeXTMail,E-mail:ascoli@lorienne.oleane.com ******************************************************************************* LORIENNE 53 av. Lenine 94250 GENTILLY FRANCE Tel:(1)49.85.03.76 Fax:(1)49.85.05.14 ******************************************************************************* -- FrÝdÝric Ascoli NeXTMail,E-mail:ascoli@lorienne.oleane.com ******************************************************************************* LORIENNE 53 av. Lenine 94250 GENTILLY FRANCE Tel:(1)49.85.03.76 Fax:(1)49.85.05.14
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) Subject: searching for a good eisa graphic card for NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <CKAoJ1.7JB@cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 15:33:01 GMT Hello ! We are searching for a good eisa graphic card whish could support a resolution of 1024*768 in 16 bits color to put in a 486 on whish we'd like to try NEXTSTEP. Thanks for any answer by Email ! Best regards, - Eric --- "The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be." - Paul Valery _____________________________________________________________________ | Eric de la Tribouille | Advanced Collaborative Systems Lab. eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu | Department of Computer Science | University of Illinois at | Urbana-Champaign | 1304W. Springfield Avenue NeXT-Mail very welcome ! | Urbana, ILL 61801, USA ?;?)/ TOMORROW's TOOLS TODAY ! _____________________________________________________________________ Opinions expressed are my own.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What the hell is wrong with this country? Date: 27 Jan 1994 09:48:15 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401271547.AA18534@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Personally, I've found that talking to them in French confuses the hell out of them! :-) > > I too get a little weary of being asked for directions to the > > British Museum :-) > > > There's great sport to be had directing them to the wrong place - > Madam Jo-Jos is a good one. > For the benefit of non-Brits: Madame Jo-Jos is a(n in)famous transvestite bar in Soho... ummm, sorry, no, my mistake: it's a new wing of the Victoria and Albert Museum, just opened -- it's easiest if you take the Northern Line to Morden, leave by the exit on the left, hail a cab and ask to be taken to Mornington Crescent, shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes... Amusez-vous! mmalcolm. - --- SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions for a 600MB-1.2GB Hard Disk Date: 27 Jan 1994 16:20:44 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i8pks$mre@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <IhFiMLq00iV3A9d11X@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <IhFiMLq00iV3A9d11X@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. > P.S. used to have a toll-free number, so you might try 800-ALL-DISK first to see whether it still works (unless you own stock in your local long-distance company :-) > (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) Me, neither. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Any rumors on "clock doubled" 040's? Message-ID: <CK9vC3.vx@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <CK76KE.IJ0@news2.cis.umn.edu> Distribution: World Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 05:02:27 GMT In article <CK76KE.IJ0@news2.cis.umn.edu> Douglas B. Moore writes: #Just curious... #But wouldn't it seem like an obvious move for Motorola to release such a #chip? I'd certainly enjot the opportunity to drop a 66mhz "dx2'd" 040 in #my dimension. I haven't heard anything. I would like one also. I guess I'll wait for the '060 and a daughterboard. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) Subject: #9 level 12 the highest? Configure.app confusing... Message-ID: <1994Jan27.165638.16471@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 16:56:38 GMT Hello: I'm getting rid of my ATI GUP (Rev 3) for a new board and I'm a little confused about what to get. I've looked at the Number Nine GXE cards, but the highest configured one is the level 12 with 3mb (and I think only two of this is vram, the rest dram). But under Configure.app, it thinks that the #9 has four megabytes... Am I missing something here? Does anybody have an opinion as to which of these cards is better? Or is there another one supported by NS that I am not aware of? Confused, Jim wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 13:43:59 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jan27.134359.1672@cyantic.com> References: <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <CJxytE.Kz7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com> In article <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com> choyt@boi.hp.com (Craig Hoyt) writes: >benjamin bernhard (bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote: >: In article <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: >: >In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: >: > >: > ADDITIONAL MEMORY >: > --------------------------------- >: >> 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 >: >> 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 >: >> 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 >: >> 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 >: > >: >Ah, now I see where they make their money. These prices are about bloody >: >ridiculous! This is exactly why HP is never one of the platforms we recommend for our clients. It's not just the price, but also that in the past the SIMMS were proprietary. I think there has been some improvement here, and we will continue to watch closely. The SPARC LX still catches my eye as my next desktop box. >disk drives and there IS engineering value added. Also added >is the high quality and superb warranty. I can't quibble with HP's engineering quality. But I still don't believe in the hammer-lock approach to add-in parts. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ergonomics: Was Summary: NeXT station on side? Date: 27 Jan 1994 13:00:57 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401271851.AA19860@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > In case you're interested, I'm worrying about my hard drive and my > wallet, and just trying to adapt to the higher monitor position. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! PLEASE, DO NOT DO THIS! You *must* have the monitor in a position in which it is comfortable: ideally the top of the monitor should be on about the level as the top of your head. Go and read some articles about RSI and ergonomics. "Display screen equipment safety" must be one of the more important health issues of our time -- abuse can be crippling. I've been lucky -- I knew I was overdoing things, but I nevertheless STUPIDLY persisted with my keyboard activities despite the fact that the whole of my right arm hurtalmost permanently, and occasionaly my shoulders and the right hand side of my face went numb, even after a good-night's sleep. STUPID. I finally went to see my doctor a short while ago and he sent me immediately to get my neck X-rayed. Happily for me it turned out there was nothing permanently amiss, and in fact getting a new chair and adopting a sensible posture has meant I am now mostly recovered, but I have heard a number of much more sorry endings. Please, don't risk the remainder of a lifetime's agony for the sake of a "few" dollars, or for ensuring that your workstation is comfortable. Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to boot cube from external disk not lowest SCSI ID? Date: 27 Jan 1994 19:28:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2i94kb$t25@galaxy.ucr.edu> References: <2hcm2p$nh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <3M6KBQ3H@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Stephan Trebels (trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de) wrote: : Dan Pritts (danno@css.itd.umich.edu) wrote: : > I was once told by a NeXT support person to use bsd(1,0,0) -rootdev=sd1a : bsd(1,0,0) rootdev=sd1a : ----------^^------------ : Before you do it, change the root entry in /etc/fstab on the : external disk from /dev/sd0a to /dev/sd1a. Otherwise your : internal disk will be remounted as root during boot :-) Where can I find out more about these type of technical Q+A? Is there a FAQ for this group?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Subject: DEC-XL PCI PC Message-ID: <CKAy10.8t@lysis.ch> Sender: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Organization: Lysis Institute of Research, Lausanne Switzerland Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 18:58:12 GMT Hi, Has anyone experienced NS on a DECpc XL, PCI bus with Pentium chip?? They have a PCI Viper video card - a driver soon available? Does that machine have PCI 2.0? Any comments are welcome! Thanks +----------------------------------+ | Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch> | | Institut de Recherche Lysis | | Cotes de Montbenon 8 | | CH-1003 LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND | | Tel. ++ 41 21 - 312 91 91 | | Fax. ++ 41 21 - 312 93 43 | +----------------------------------+
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Attack of the Killer ED Floppy!! Message-ID: <2i9dja$alj@news.duke.edu> Date: 27 Jan 94 22:01:14 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C. Originator: dblakele@north1.acpub.duke.edu Howdy do! Well, it's been one of those days (allowing myself to surface above the piles of papers and statistical outputs of work/graduate school) and now my floppy disks are giving me fits! Home system: 68040-25 NeXTcube running NS3.1 with PLI SuperFloppy, etc. Allied system: 68040-33 NSTC network running NS3.1. Of late, I've been having occasional system panics when accessing ED floppies with NS filesystems which, on occasion, will result in the system killing all processes, failing to umount the floppy and rebooting the system. As soon as the system reboots (both the Cube and the NSTC), it tries to read the floppy, panics and starts the whole cycle all over again. I can't run a fsck on the floppy because I never get to the point of being able to do it in the first place. Any thoughts? Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Duke University _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | Center for Health Policy \\// NeXTmail happily accepted | | Durham NC 27710 \/ #include <disclaim.duke.h> |
From: Randy Antler Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does anyone know how to access keyboard i/o? Date: 27 Jan 1994 22:48:32 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2i9gc0$iqe@news.cerf.net> I'm trying to access the hardware on our intel box running NeXTSTEP in order to _SEND_ information out the keyboard port. Is there is any way other than using something like this? mov al, 1 out 0x60, al . . . Please post and/or email any information at all. Thanks! -- Randy Antler (NeXTSTEP developer) NeXT Mail preferred <randy@nacm.com> Work address <randy@pilot.com> Home address ---------------------------------------------------------------- Roy: "Did you get your precious photos?" Leon: "There was someone there."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <CKBBBz.Ls3@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago References: <espritCK44G8.Hy7@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:45:34 GMT Just add my 2 cents worth. I manage NeXT machines, Intel machines, and shortly HP/PA machines. I read all the articles with interest. I would like to see c.s.n.h split into c.s.n.h.[m68k, i386, misc] and add [hppa, sparc, (add favourite processor)] when needed. I agree with the comments that it should be done now, before things get too big. Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Computer Science Department, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 University of Otago, | Dunedin, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer + Mac = ? Date: 28 Jan 1994 00:22:00 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2i9lr8$kfp@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1994Jan21.000609.111815@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Hello Kristin In comp.sys.next.hardware article <1994Jan21.000609.111815@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> you wrote: > > I have a NeXT laser printer for my Cube and I was wondering if there is > any way to make it work on my Macintosh LC II as well. If anyone knows > if this can be done, please let me know. > > Feel free to respond by email or by posting, I check both. Our solution might be a bit overkill for a two computer setup like your's but this is what we do. We've got a mixed network of 6 Next's and 8 macintoshes. We've installed ethernet cards in all macintoshes so the nexts and macs are all connected. Then we run a program called uShare on one of our Next's. uShare allows one to publish Next directories as AppleShare volumes and our Next Laser and Next color printer as AppleTalk LaserWriters. So a mac can simply bring up the chooser, pick the LaserWriter and see the two next printers in addition to our Apple Laserwriter's. uShare also allows us to import the Apple Laserwriters on our network into NetInfo so when a Next wants to print it too can transparently print where ever it wants. I can't find the Price List but I think if you want to just do printer sharing it should cost <$200 for a single user license. uShare (and uShare Partner which allows the Next's to act as AppleShare clients) are available from Information Presentation Technologies, Inc. 555 Chorro Street, Suite A San Luis Obispo, CA 93401 (805) 541-3000 So for your application you would need an ethernet adapter for your LC (~$200) and the uShare software (~$200). Of course this solution is better targeted at workgroups like ours than small setups like your's but it would work. For those interested, we've had uShare running on our server for almost two years without any major problems. My only complaint is that it takes forever to startup on reboot (a couple minutes). But overall I can recomend the product completely. Ciao Michael Haker Dept. Chemistry UW-Madison haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
From: archerca@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted: External SCSI Harddrive Date: 28 Jan 1994 00:21:56 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2i9lr4$gct@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Wanted: External SCSI Harddrive Between 40-100 Meg I will pay up to $100. Chris Archer archerca@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu 812-877-8533
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: HP/PA-RISC PDO - What does it run on? Message-ID: <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 01:59:13 GMT Having seen the HP 712 Gecko, I was wondering about whether or not PDO will run on it. The original press release from HP/NeXT said that PDO was targeted at the Series 800 servers rather than the 700 series. Simply put, will PDO run on the 700 series, in particular the Gecko? Thanks Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Computer Science Department, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 University of Otago, | Dunedin, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: Next printer jamming Message-ID: <1994Jan26.210321.21944@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <2hmao2INNjqb@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:03:21 GMT In article <2hmao2INNjqb@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien), Department of Mental Hygiene, Johns Hopkins University writes: > Does anyone know how to fix a NeXT printer that won't feed paper in more > than about 1/3 of the sheet before jamming? This just started happening a > few days ago and non-specific fiddling and jiggling of the insides does > not help. It is probably a simple thing (I hope). > > Thanks, > > Allen Tien AS far as I know when these things happen on a laser printer it is either: - because the ruber rolls pulling the paper are dirty or greasy (clean them with 90 % ethanol - or because the spring pressing the paper (usually the whole stack) on this ruber rolls is bent or has become weak or blocked, put it right Hope this helps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: Using North American NeXT and peripherals in Europe Message-ID: <1994Jan26.211742.22008@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <1994Jan21.040723.26497@cs.sfu.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:17:42 GMT In article <1994Jan21.040723.26497@cs.sfu.ca> fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) writes: > Hi: > > Can someone tell me what power supply difficulties there are in running a > North American NeXT, printer, modem, tape drive and external hard drive in > Europe. Can you run all of the above off a surge protector run through > some kind of electrical power converter? > > Thanks very much, > > - Dan Fass > > > you don't need anything special to run the NeXT itself in Europe because its internal power supply adapts itself automatically to any voltage between 110 and 240 V and frequency between 50 and 60 Hz. All you need is a main cable (local standard plug at the male end and american standard at the computer end), available from any local computer shop or taken from any local computer (they are all the same). But this is not true for the printer, the color screen if any and the modem. They need either to be switched to 220V or 240V if they have such a switch, or to be plugged to a 230V to 110V transformator (the different frequency are not a big problem: we use hardware bought in the US at work with transfo without any problem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <CKBAx8.IKq@agedwards.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:36:43 GMT References: <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Craig Hoyt (choyt@boi.hp.com) wrote: : benjamin bernhard (bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote: : : In article <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: : : >In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: : : > : : > ADDITIONAL MEMORY : : > --------------------------------- : : >> 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 : : >> 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 : : >> 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 : : >> 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 : : > : : >Ah, now I see where they make their money. These prices are about bloody : : >ridiculous! : : Do you remember Next's add-on prices? Equally high. HP is not in the : : business of selling ram or hard drives. Their value-added is not in : : sales, but in engeneering. : --Well, actually, it's both. We ARE in the business of selling : disk drives and there IS engineering value added. Also added : is the high quality and superb warranty. This is not the "party line" that I hear from my HP rep...just FYI. Incidentally, is there more value in an HP drive inside an HP enclosure than there is in an HP drive inside white enclosure with the "Disk Drive" stenciled in black on the outside (i.e., a generic enclosure)? -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fass@cs.sfu.ca (Dan Fass) Subject: SCSI Disk Compatibility for NeXT Computers Message-ID: <1994Jan27.081308.1284@cs.sfu.ca> Organization: Simon Fraser University Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 08:13:08 GMT Brad Sime of Bell Atlantic NeXT Hardware Support was kind enought to send me the following information about SCSI Disk Compatibility for NeXT Computers. He also agreed to letting the information be posted on this newsgroup. Perhaps parts of it could be added to the hardware FAQ. - Dan Fass Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 14:07:56 -0800 Subject: NeXT SCSI spec SCSI Disk Compatibility for NeXT Computers Q: What SCSI hard drives are compatible for use with NeXT computers? A: NeXT offered a line of hard disks that ranged in size from 105mb to 1.2gb. These drives have been carefully qualified by NeXT (see model numbers below). The NeXT system software also supports third party SCSI hard drives not sold by NeXT. For the NeXT system software to support the drive your system must be running software release 2.0, it must be connected to the drive with the correct cable, and the drive must support the following SCSI commands and revisions: 1) "Inquiry" and "Read Capacity" commands 2) The drive must conform to the ANSI SCSI Rev. 17B or greater 3) 10 (ten) byte read and write command blocks If the drive is unformatted, it will be automatically formatted only in the following situations: --the drive's capacity is less than 6 MBytes, and --the drive uses removable media. In order to work with the file system, the drive's sector size must be 512 or 1024 bytes. Please check with your SCSI drive provider for details on your drive. Bell Atlantic does not have additional information on third party drives. Model Numbers of NeXT SCSI drives: S-P/N Vendor MFG-Model# Size Comments S3001 Maxtor 380 XT-8380s 330mb NeXTcube only S3002 Maxtor 760 XT-8000s 660mb NeXTcube only HP 660 97548sn 660mb NeXTcube only Fujitsu 660 M2253sa 660mb NeXTcube only S3003 Quantum 40s ProDrive 40mb NeXTcube swap drive S3004 Quantum105s ProDrive 100mb NeXTcube and station S3005 Seagate 425 ST1480N 400mb NeXTcube and station Fujitsu 400 M2623sa 400mb Mostly NeXT internal S3006 Seagate 1.4 ST41650N 1.4gb NeXTcube only S3007 Sony CD-ROM CDU-541-01 650mb NeXTcube only S3008 Quantum 210s ProDrive 200mb NeXTcube and station S3009 Seagate 250 ST1280 250mb Depopulated 400mb Seagate 250 ST3283N 250mb Upgrade for S3008 S3010 Seagate 450 ST3550N 450mb Upgrade for S3005 Recomended SCSI Addresses: Target ID 0 : Customer external SCSI bootable SCSI device Target ID 1 : NeXT internal system bootable SCSI drive Target ID 2 : Customer's SCSI data disk drive Target ID 3 : SCSI CD-ROM drive Target ID 4 : External SCSI floppy or optical drive Target ID 5 : NeXT Color printer Target ID 6 : Swap space SCSI disk drive SCSI cables: Q: What kinds of cables do I need to connect SCSI peripherals to my NeXTstation or NeXTcube? Where can I get them? A: 18' is theoretical limit for scsi cable length. A: The SCSI standard requires that SCSI cables have a characteristic impedance of at least 90 ohms (100 +/- 10 ohms). This is necessary to prevent "ringing," which can cause incorrect command or data information to be passed among devices on the SCSI bus. Ringing will occur especially if a system drives the SCSI bus at the full rate permitted by the SCSI standard. NeXT hardware drivers are fast and need cables with proper impedance. There are cables available in the marketplace that work satisfactorily with other computer systems, but have too low a characteristic impedance to function reliably on the NeXT system. In particular, cables supplied for the Apple Macintosh computer are frequently unsatisfactory for NeXT systems. Don't use them. Cables that connect the 68040-based NeXT systems to most kinds of SCSI peripherals are still available from Bell Atlantic. The part descriptions and order numbers are: Part Number Price Cable Type S7006 $95 SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable S7007 $95 SCSI-2 to SCSI-2 cable Note that we refer to "SCSI-2 cables" only because the newest NeXT computer systems use SCSI-2 high-density connectors. The internal implementation conforms to the SCSI-1 specification, Rev. 17b. The older NeXT systems that use the Motorola 68030 processor have a DB25 connector for external SCSI devices. If you have upgraded to an 68040 board, you will need cables with the SCSI-2 connector. You can order cables not supplied by NeXT from: anDATAco 48511 Warm Springs Boulevard Suite 204 Fremont, CA 94539 (510) 659-9191 (510) 226-9294 fax NeXTConnection 9 Mill Street Marlow, NH 03456 (800) 800-NeXT (603) 446-7791 fax SCSI-2 to SCSI -1: p/n: 8906 DB25 to SCSI-1: p/n: 8908 SCSI-1 to SCSI-1: p/n: 8909 Quintec Interconnect Systems 1881 Dobbin Drive San Jose, CA 95133 (408) 272-8000 DB25 to SCSI-1: p/n: 3290 SCSI-1 to SCSI-1: p/n: 3190
Message-ID: <#4%@byu.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 20:32:06 MST From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP/PA-RISC PDO - What does it run on? References: <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz> In article <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz> alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) writes: > > Having seen the HP 712 Gecko, I was wondering about whether or not > PDO will run on it. The original press release from HP/NeXT said that > PDO was targeted at the Series 800 servers rather than the 700 > series. Simply put, will PDO run on the 700 series, in particular the > Gecko? Yes it will run on the 700 series so I see no reason why it won't work on the 712. It ain't cheap though, so unless you are considering a 712 server which will only run HP-UX and will be needed for PDO, I would wait for NeXTSTEP. Later, Paul Cardon
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q]NeXTcolorPrinter works with mono station? Date: 27 Jan 1994 16:14:06 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <2i8p8e$dae@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear folks; ok.. Can I use NeXTcolorPrinter(Canon Bubble) with mono-NeXTstation which connected to a LAN? Assume this, I have a color SUN,HP or Mac and a mono-NeXT station which are connected together by a LAN. I want to make a color output from a Mac or SUN and I let the NeXT color printer print the output. Do you think above assumption works? <Soonam> soonam@isse.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: mb@orchard.Princeton.EDU (Matthias Blumrich) Subject: WANTED: network sound playing info Message-ID: <1994Jan27.233810.12210@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:38:10 GMT Hi. If I'm logged onto a NeXT machine, is there a way to play a sound remotely on a different NeXT machine? I tried logging in to the remote machine, but sndplay wouldn't run. Please send responses to mb@cs.princeton.edu. Thanks! - Matt -
From: 63912i@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Alexander During") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.linux.development Subject: Re: Second and 3-rd VLB Video cards for Non-Workspace use? Date: 28 Jan 1994 04:31:38 GMT Organization: Centre for Informatics, WASEDA University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ia4fb$9fq@wsdnws.cfi.waseda.ac.jp> References: <2i7c23$pk4@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <2i7c23$pk4@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu writes: > >However, I do NOT want these additional video boards to become part >of Workspace served by the WindowServer (or X server). I would >like to access them outside of the WindowServer/DPS as custom >devices. There will not be any GUI stuff on them, i.e., no >windows there. > >Do any of video cards allow multiple instances on a single machine, >i.e., I/O addresses, BIOS and VRAM ranges configurable to >non-overlapping areas? > Well, I once worked at a software company that had exactly the same problem. They used up to three cards in one computer and wrote their own GUI, being able to work as if they had one big screen thrice as wide. Here comes their trick: They used PS/2s and a card named CAD-Genius by a very small German company that went bankrupt at least once in two years. According to what I heard from them, this was the only card that supported multiple instances in one system and that only on PS/2. The output was done via port I/O, which didn't really matter as it was pretty intelligent. I had to program it the other day and it was fine. But the outcome of it is that you can't have it under Linux, because this does not run on MCA. Well, as I quoted their trick, they are called STS then. Just advertisement. Gambatte kudasai Alex -- As MS-DOS is very abstruse, \\it's also quite tricky to use. \\So many give in and try typing 'win'. \\But that means completely to lose. Alexander D\"uring, Physics Department, Waseda University, Tokyo, Japan. Statistical Physics, Linux, Shakespeare. --- This space for rent ---
From: gt4722a@prism.gatech.EDU (James B. Atkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest Subject: MAKE MONEY FAST Message-ID: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 28 Jan 94 06:43:08 GMT Followup-To: s Distribution: na Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Dear Friend, My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of failure was my computer and my modem. I longed to turn my advocation into my vocation. This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day cruise to the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a home on the West Coast of Florida, with a private pool, boat slip, and a beautiful view of the bay from my breakfast room table and patio. I will never have to work again. Today I am rich! I have earned over $400,000.00 (Four Hundred Thousand Dollars) to date and will become a millionaire within 4 or 5 months. Anyone can do the same. This money making program works perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed to earn $50,000.00 or more whenever I wanted. Best of all you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or post office. In October 1988, I received a lefter in the mail telling me how I could earn $50,000 dollars or more whenever I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though, when you are desperate, backed into a corner, your mind does crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the want ads for a job with a future. The pickings were sparse at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my computer and calling several bulletin boards. I read several of the message posts and than glanced at the lefter next to the computer. Allat once it came to me, I now had the key to my dreams. I realized that with the power of the computer I could expand and enhance this money making formula into the most unbelievable cash flow generator that has ever been created. I substituted the computer bulletin boards in place of the post office and electronically did by computer what others were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few lefters are mailed manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have waited for all your life, simply follow the easy instructions below. Your dreams will come true. Sincerely yours, Dave Rhodes INSTRUCTIONS Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you will have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours. This program has remained successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. Welcome to the world of Mail Order! This little business is a little different than most mail order houses. Your product is not solid and tangible, but rather a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists.(The money made from the mailing lists are secondary to the income which is made from people like yourself requesting that they be included in that list.) 1) Immediately mail $1.00 to the first 5 (five) names listed below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send cash only please (totalinvestment $5.00). Enclose a note with each letter stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list." (This is a legitimate service that you are requesting and you are paying $1.00 for this service). 2) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list. Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.) Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10 position. 3) Post the new letter with your name in the number 10 position into 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards in the message base or to the file section, call the file, MAKE.MONEY.FAST. 4) Within 60 days you will receive over $50,000.00 in CASH. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can use it again and again whenever you need money. As soon as you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail order business and people are sending you $1.00 to be placed on your mailing list. This list can than be rented to a list broker that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional income on a regular basis. The list will become more valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Sec.1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws. NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not discard the names and notes they send you. This is PROOF that you are truely providing a service and should the IRS or some other Government Agency question you, you can provide them with this proof! Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the number five position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in cash. 1. Charles Maxwell 338 San Petra Court #1 Milpitas, CA 95035 2. Angel Negron Box 4583 USAFA,CO 80841 3. Hong Yang 99 S. Rock Hampton Dr. Madison, AL 35758 4. Joe Alexis 24722 GA Tech Station Atlanta, GA 30332 5. Steven J. Cambria 203 Oakvale Blvd Kenmore, NY 14223 6. Fredick Dihlman Box 388 St. Bonaventure Univ. 7. Dennis Le 8142 19th Street Westminster, CA 92683 8. Toni Mason 2405A Landmark Raleigh, NC 27607 9. Kalen Schulteis Box 1622 5500 Wabash Avenue Terre Haute, IN 47803 10. Anthony M. Mazzola III C.P.U. 171 300 Grace Watson Circle Rochester, New York 14623 The following letters were written by participating members in this program. To Whom It May Concern: About six months ago I received the enclosed post in letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter within the next two weeks. I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a local bulletin board in Montreal. I liked the idea of giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I, they wouldn't be too quick to part with Five Dollars. But, I buy lottery tickets weekly in my province and have nothing to show for it but ticket stubs. This week I decided to look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the envelopes and mailed out one dollar in each as directed. Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail. The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what happened! I can't say I received $50,000, but it was definitely well over $35,000! For the first time in ten years, I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it didn't take me long to go through my earnings so I am using this excellent money opportunity once again. Follow the instructions and get ready to enjoy. Please send a copy of this letter along with the enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are skeptical that it really works! Good Luck, Charles Kust St Agathe Que. Another lefter: I tried a similar program in which the cost was $5.00 per response. In that one the return was about 3%. Since I did not have a modem I sent out letters regular mail. I created a few mailing labels and printed out all of the labels on pressure sensitive tape. The first mailing that I used the $1.00 dollar per reponse approach I started to get return mail in just over one week! I sent out 200 letters instead of 100 that is required if you use the mail instead of the bulletin boards. Additionally, I included as many friends, relatives, classmates, that I could think of in order to encourage their participation if they happened to recognize my name, so my percentage of gain was higher. I am trying again with 500 lefters to see if I surpass the $141,000 of the last time. You just won't believe it until you try. Best Wishes, Mark Garner Dallas Texas Additional Notes: This system works equally well if mailed out manually. Mind you it takes more effort to hand address the envelopes and the cost goes up proportionately to cover the postage and envelopes. You must also photo copy the instructions, cross out the name in number one position, write in your name in the number ten slot and change the rest of the numbers accordingly. (it might be neater to use white out or paste over the names.) In order to achieve the same results you must send out the $1.00 dollar to the first five names and then send out another 100 letters with copies of the program enclosed. It has been suggested not to put a return address on the outside of the envelope in order to encourage the recipient to open it. The return will approximate that then received from the posts listed on the bulletin boards.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Re: PCI bus drives Message-ID: <1994Jan28.024927.4416@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com References: <1994Jan25.215544.760@free.fdn.org> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 02:49:27 GMT In article <1994Jan25.215544.760@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) writes: > In article <CK4w8s.BpJ@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de > (Karsten Wolf) writes: > > In article <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>, > riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) writes: > > |> Has anyone been able to load NeXTstep on a PCI local bus drive. > > |> > > |> Dr. David D. Riley (Dave) > > |> Acting Director of Academic Computing > > |> University of Wisconsin - La Crosse > > |> La Crosse, WI 54601 > > > > Yeah, I did > > > > ASUS 486/PCI motherboard > > miro 8s/PCI graphic card (waiting for 16s/PCI) > > Adaptec 1542cf SCSI-controller > > 1GB-IBM-OEM HD > > 16 MB (soon 32MB!, though it works ok with 16MB) > > > > Karsten D. Wolf > > (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de) > > Me also: > > ASUS Pentium 60MHz/PCI motherboard > miro 8s/PCI graphic card (waiting for 16s/PCI) > Adaptec 1542B SCSI-controller > 1GB-IBM-OEM HD > 20 MB memory > Screaming fast!!! > > Cheers > --Fabien > ___________________________________________________________________ > Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org > NeXTmail OK me too! me too! Micron Pentium 60Mhz/PCI with micronics motherboard miro 32s/PCI graphics Adaptec 1542B SCSI (waiting for drivers for PCI SCSI) 1.2 gig Seagate drive 32 Meg memory Can you say faster than a bat outa heck can you say 16 ICONS ON THE DOCK!!!!! -- jerald dawson Systems Manager / Head Programmer Investor's Advantage / MRK *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Should we have two next.hardware groups? Message-ID: <W8FLB6BI@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2i4e1b$of@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 20:54:55 GMT Jessica L. Mosher (cooncat@milhaud) wrote: > I don't know if anyone feels the same way as I do, but I find it a bit > tedious to wade through Intel box hardware problems as I have a Motorola > NeXT. This is exactly what carl and I want. I posted the neccessary RFD to news.announce.newgroups, so we should have a CFV in about 25 days. Best Regards, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience w/ Toshiba 1GB disk in Nextstation? Date: 27 Jan 1994 18:12:52 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <2i9sb4$bga@darkstar.isi.edu> I'm looking to purchase a 700MB-1GB disk for internal use in my Nextstation. The best deal I've found (in the back of MacWeek) is $649 for a 1GB Toshiba. It's model #MK-536, 12.5msec access, 3600RPM. It's sold by Spin (800) 466-1200. The price is right as far as I'm concerned. Has anyone used this drive successfully with Next hardware? Any problems or concerns? cheers, --mike (carlton@isi.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Hints on Buslogic 747 EISA SCSI? Message-ID: <westesCKC1AG.LrE@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 09:06:15 GMT Based on all the rave reviews people have sent me on this card, I decided to get a Buslogic 747 EISA SCSI adapter for my NS 3.2 Intel system. Are there any special tricks to setting up and configuring this card, or should I just accept the defaults on the EISA BIOS configuration? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: biscm@info.isbiel.ch (Martin Bischoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ethernet Card Date: 28 Jan 1994 10:44:13 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: All Message-ID: <2iaq9t$5cu@vega.info.isbiel.ch> In our school all PC's are equipped with NE 2000 Ethernet Cards. Unfortunately this card is not supported by NSI 3.2. Is there anybody who knows about a driver for this card? Please contact me by email if you know anything about it. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we split c.s.n.hardware? Message-ID: <1994Jan28.111858.20582@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University References: <3HBLBXQ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1994Jan25.000847.5190@altsys.com> <1994Jan25.025244.13337@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 11:18:58 GMT Perry A. Caro (caro@adobe.com) wrote: : Call me a troglodyte, but I'd vote against it, particularly as proposed : above. It's hard enough getting folks to post hardware-only messages in : one place (instead of in .misc, .software, .advocacy, sheesh). With the : proposal, there would be N-places. By that argument, all of UseNet should be in one huge group, b/c people constantly post stuff into inappropriate groups. : Even if you allow a hardware.misc for issues the bridge across vendors : (like which SCSI scanner works with all NS 3.X platforms?), there will : be annoying crossposts to make sure the hppa people see the m68k : question, in case they know the answer. The people who do that are a--holes and shouldn't get the answer even if it is known. If someone doesn't want to deal with something, you have no right to force it on him (her?)! This argument, however, has the same problem as the previous one (see above). : There is precedent to consider. I don't see: : comp.os.ms-windows.nt.i386 : comp.os.ms-windows.nt.alpha : comp.os.ms-windows.nt.mips We do not use their conventions for the same reason we don't use their operating system: we want the best, most innovative stuff possible, not just a rehash of things that have been done for awhile. They follow our example, not the other way around! : Nor anything of the kind for other OS's that can be run on multiple : platforms. : I currently run black and white, so the current set-up is ideal for me. : :-) With the new setup, you could read both groups (this really wouldn't take any more time) and still be happy ;-). : Also, why aren't the existing hierarchies good enough for NEXTSTEP : folks? Why isn't MS-Windows good enough for the NeXTSTEP folks? : comp.sys.sun.hardware : comp.sys.hp.hardware : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware I read this last one. The people there (myself included ;) are very knowledgeable, and helpful, but few of us know anything about how the NeXTSTEP OS/MACK kernel interacts with the iNTEL hardware and can't help with NeXT-specific stuff. That's like posting to the Mac groups for Black Hardware questions (well, the *do* use the mk68*!). : Think of it this way -- the existing hierarchies already have expertise : on the hardware, and ignorance about NEXTSTEP. When NEXTSTEP/OpenStep : becomes available on the platform and questions arise, participation in : the existing hierarchies has the side-effect of advocating NEXTSTEP to : folks who might not otherwise hear about or consider it. They don't want to hear about it! You complained above about posts to innappropriate groups and now you're advocating it! : I personally read comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware and get lot's of useful info : relevant to NEXTSTEP/FIP. I don't see a need to duplicate this info in : comp.sys.next.hardware.x86. It wouldn't be duplicated, it would be collected in one spot. : Finally, consider a moderated e-mail distribution list. The moderator : filters the newsgroup and posts a digest to interesed parties. This : will work as long as traffic doesn't get too heavy. Why bother with a kludge (we've gone thru the MS-WinDOZE stuff above ;-)? : Perry : -- : caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others LT -- ____________________________________________________ /| | | | There are only two organizations that I know of | | | that send armed men in dark suits and sunglasses | | | to take your money: the mafia and the government. | | | | | | Lenny Turetsky (aka) lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu | | |____________________________________________________| |/____________________________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caw@miroc.Chi.IL.US (Christopher A. Wichura) Subject: Questions about hardware drivers for NS/FIP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <1994Jan28.114741.18472@midway.uchicago.edu> Originator: caw@gsbxdm.uchicago.edu Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 09:36:32 GMT I am considering a couple machines to run NS/FIP on. These are primarily EISA based machines. I have questions about device drivers, however. 1) How is the Adaptec 274x SCSI driver coming along? I have been told that Adaptec has discontinued the 174x cards, which the hardware guide indicates are supported. The guide also says that 274x drivers are expects 1Q94. Anyone know their status? 2) What is available in the way of drivers for EISA based ethernet cards? The hardware guide is unclear about this. One of the machines I am most interested in is a DEC MTE. They only bundle their ethernet card, though, which is an EtherWORKs board. Do drivers exist for it, or at least planned? The other EISA board I could get would be the Intel EtherExpress 32. The guide mentions support for ISA EtherExpress boards. Would these work with the EISA one? 3) Any word on support for the Intel SatisFAXtion 400/i modem? What do people recomend as a good 14.4 internal FAX modem for use with NS (and OS/2)? 4) Are there drivers for any PCMCIA devices for NS? Specifically, the PortaPort PCMCIA Card Drive? Being able to use PCMCIA to move stuff around would be nice. My guess is this isn't supported, and I will just have to use the drive under DOS. *sigh* Is it just me, or does anyone else find NeXTAnswers to be entirely useless in getting real information? Thanks, -=> CAW -- Christopher A. Wichura Multitasking. Just DO it. caw@miroc.chi.il.us (my amiga) ...the Amiga way... u12401@uicvm.uic.edu (school account) -- Christopher A. Wichura Multitasking. Just DO it. caw@miroc.chi.il.us (my amiga) ...the Amiga way... u12401@uicvm.uic.edu (school account)
From: wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diamond Viper versions Date: 28 Jan 1994 12:19:01 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2iavrl$4u2@email.tuwien.ac.at> At a computer shop I've just been told, that there is a new version of the Diamond Viper out. Which one will (eventually) be supported? I assume, that according to NeXT's apparent policy with HW support, it will be the least common and/or the most expensive one. And, of course, not the one that I have... If anyone could comment on this... A.W. -- *********************************************************** * _ * Alexander Wilkie * * / \ \ / * wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at * * /---\ \ /\ / * Technical University Vienna * * / \ \/ \/ * Austria / Europe * * * (NeXTMail o.k.) * ***********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: klakeman@plains.NoDak.edu (Keith N. Lakeman) Subject: My slab has no sound! Sender: usenet@ns1.nodak.edu (Usenet login) Message-ID: <CKBDAF.p6D@ns1.nodak.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 00:27:51 GMT Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network My NeXTstation is soundless. I'm not sure when this problem started, possibly after installing 3.1. Here are some of the symptoms: When I do something that should produce a sound I get the following types of messages on Console. Sound Error: 31 or Dec 11 07:39:12 Workspace[224]: Cannot play sound! In preferences I cannot move my volume slider with my mouse, but my keyboard keys will move it. My Mute checkbox is disabled. At boot time, the sound test succeeds. In my messages file I get the following: Dec 11 07:13:10 drifter mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB Ethernet" Dec 11 07:13:10 drifter mach: dsp0 at 0x2108000 Dec 11 07:13:10 drifter mach: np0 at 0x200f000 Dec 11 07:13:10 drifter mach: sound0 at 0x200e000 Dec 11 07:13:10 drifter mach: root on sd0 Dec 11 07:13:10 drifter mach: master cpu at slot 0. Dec 11 07:13:10 drifter mach: The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it. Dec 11 07:13:14 drifter autonfsmount: WARNING: /Net not empty! Dec 11 07:13:25 drifter reboot: Reboot complete Dec 11 07:13:33 drifter kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed Dec 11 07:13:33 drifter kern_loader: kern_loader: Link failed Dec 11 07:13:33 drifter kern_loader: kern_loader: server audio won't link Dec 11 07:13:33 drifter kern_loader: kern_loader: server audio won't link Dec 11 07:13:33 drifter loginwindow[172]: kern_loader_add_server - 108 Dec 11 07:13:33 drifter loginwindow[172]: kern_loader_delete_server - 102 Dec 11 07:13:50 drifter loginwindow[177]: loginwindow: running /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace Dec 11 07:13:50 drifter Workspace[177]: logged in Has anyone seen this behavior before? Anyone have any ideas? Please mail me your responses. -Keith klakeman@plains.nodak.edu -- Keith Lakeman klakeman@plains.nodak.edu (Internet) AS/400 Administrator uunet!plains!klakeman (UUCP) North Dakota State University klakeman@plains (Bitnet)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSfIP 3.2 & Tandberg TDC3600 Streamer Date: 27 Jan 1994 19:42:13 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2i91u5$1d3@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <PFP.94Jan26091633@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) writes: >I've got a TD3600 Rev. X07 Streamer (SCSI-1, 150MB, QIC). >It works great with BSD/386. >If I want to use it under NSfIP 3.2, I can manipulate the tape without >problems (mt rewind, mt fsf ...), but if I want to write or read >something, I get a mode sense failed and a I/O - error! This is really a FAQ... Compile the following short program and run setmtd before doing anything with the tape device - it switches to fixed block size, which is necessary for non-DAT-drives. /* * setmtd - set SCSI tape driver to a fixed block size * by John L. Chmielewski * Tue Feb 19, 1991 */ #include <fcntl.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <dev/scsireg.h> #define RSTDEVICE "/dev/rst0" #define BLOCKSIZE 512 main() { int fd, size = BLOCKSIZE; if ((fd = open(RSTDEVICE, O_RDWR)) < 0) { perror(RSTDEVICE); exit(1); } if (ioctl(fd, MTIOCFIXBLK, &size) < 0) { perror("ioctl"); exit(1); } (void) close(fd); return 0; } ----- schnippel ----- beiss ----- fetz ------ reiss ------ hau wech ----- Hope that helps, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI GUP on PCI WORKS!!! ,any interest ? Date: 28 Jan 1994 13:21:20 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2ib3gg$7m9@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2i68d9$p4j@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here the howto for the ATI GUP PCI card: -You need the Developer Package to use it. I am not able to give you self configuring binaries, because I do not have documentation for different flavours of ATI PCI card registers. It should work with different RAMDACS. Mostly the ones you find in the NeXT Code. Use this only if you understand the code and/or are sure that your card maps in at 1GB and has a Video Port Adress of 0x2e0-0x2ef. I use this pseudo-diff, to let you do some work in the interesting area of the code, so you can understand what you are doing. You will see the places where you have to change values to get it working for your own card. What to do: 1) be sure you know, that you can reboot cleanly with RightAlt+RCtrl+NumLock and then pressing "r" blind. This is for the case your window server comes up with a wrong aperature address. Then you can reboot with "config=Default" and fix it in VGA mode. 2) Change *** /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ATI/Default.table --- /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/MyATI/Default.table * "Memory Maps" = "0x7e00000-0x7ffffff 0xa0000-0xbffff 0xc0000-0xcffff"; ! "I/O Ports" = "0x100-0x105 0x2e8-0x2ef 0x3b0-0x3e0 0x6e8-0x6ef 0xae8-0xaef 0xee8-0xeef 0x12e8-0x12ef 0x16e8-0x42ef 0x46ee-0x46ef 0x4ae8-0x4aef 0x52ee-0xfeef"; to: ! "Memory Maps" = "0x40000000-0x401fffff 0xa0000-0xbffff 0xc0000-0xcffff"; ! "I/O Ports" = "0x2e0-0x2ef"; to get new values as Default in Configure.app. The second and third values in Memory Maps should stay the way they are. 3) Change *** /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATIModes.h --- /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/MyATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATIModes.h * #define INTEL_CORSAIR_FB_ADDR 0x7a000000 to: ! #define INTEL_CORSAIR_FB_ADDR 0x40000000 to burn in my Memory Aperature Address 4) Add *** /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m --- /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/MyATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m *************** *** 119,126 **** { unsigned char *ip; unsigned int location; /* Base address in Mbytes */ ! /* * The PC BIOS is broken into 2 Kb slices. On startup, the ATI BIOS * stashes away which 2 Kb slice it live in in scratch reg 0. --- 119,133 ---- { unsigned char *ip; unsigned int location; /* Base address in Mbytes */ ! ! ! #if DEBUG ! IOLog("MemoryAperatureBaseAddress() == 0x%x\n", INTEL_CORSAIR_FB_ADDR); ! #endif ! return(INTEL_CORSAIR_FB_ADDR); /* Return phys address in bytes, not Mb */ ! ! /* * The PC BIOS is broken into 2 Kb slices. On startup, the ATI BIOS to get burned in configured Aperature Adress and nothing else! 5) Add *** /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m --- /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/MyATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m *************** *** 160,166 **** --- 167,180 ---- { unsigned char *ip; unsigned int location; + + /* + * It's never safe to reprogram Corsair Style Bios, as we don't know + * how to set the off-chip decoding logic. + */ + return NO; + #if DEBUG IOLog("SetMemoryAperatureBaseAddress(0x%x)\n", newLocation ); #endif 6) Add *** /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m --- /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/MyATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m *************** *** 510,516 **** --- 524,534 ---- * DriverKit which prevents setting addresses in the high 2 Gb of * address space. */ + + break; + /* We dont want the following */ + if (range->start != physLoc || range->size < length) { IOLog("%s: FB addr decodes as 0x%x, overriding configured " "addr 0x%x.\n", [self name], physLoc, range->start); to come around bus logic tests. 7) Add *** /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/ATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m --- /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/MyATI/ATI_reloc.tproj/ATI.m *************** *** 619,625 **** --- 637,649 ---- { int slot; unsigned int product_id; + + /* This is what we want */ + IOLog("%s: Assuming a PCI bus ATI card.\n", [self name]); + ati_flavor = ATICorsair; + return TRUE; + /* First, scan for a board in an EISA slot. */ if ([self isEISAPresent] == TRUE) { for card id. Now you can build the project. Build DEBUG recommended. That were the changes in the Driver Kit ATI code to get it going. Now you have to as root: -mv /usr/Devices/ATI.config to /usr/Devices/ATI.config.original -double click on your new /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/MyATI/ATI.config this will install the new Driver. You can choose the resolution and colors. With colors I get about 0.89 NXBench-marks, monochrome 1.3 NXBench-marks. -Reboot and press Return on the boot prompt to get around the grafic boot up, to see all that happens. Mostly the debugging output. -Be happy or remember point 1) (that one about dirty shutdown). That was it ... Good luck ... Bye -- "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: HP/PA-RISC PDO - What does it run on? Message-ID: <1994Jan28.134552.8216@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 13:45:52 GMT In article <CKBHIp.9q@news.otago.ac.nz> alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz writes: >> >>Having seen the HP 712 Gecko, I was wondering about whether or not >>PDO will run on it. The original press release from HP/NeXT said that >>PDO was targeted at the Series 800 servers rather than the 700 >>series. Simply put, will PDO run on the 700 series, in particular the >>Gecko? >> From my experience in the HP-UX world, Series 800 code is binary compatible with the Series 700 (although the reverse is not true), so I doubt there would be any problem. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: daveg@locus.com (Dave Goldblatt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Date: 28 Jan 1994 14:42:55 GMT Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Burlington MA Distribution: na Message-ID: <DAVEG.94Jan28094255@striper.locus.com> References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> In-reply-to: gt4722a@prism.gatech.EDU's message of 28 Jan 94 06:43:08 GMT Congratulations! You've just been entered into the running for the coveted award of "Stupidest User on the Internet." Unfortunately, it is likely that in the event you do win the award (and there's lots of competition from other morons who have posted the same thing) you won't have an account any longer to read the mail recognizing your accomplishments. -dg- -- "And so it went. Tens of thousands of | Dave Goldblatt (daveg@locus.com) messages, hundreds of points of view. | Locus Computing Corporation It was not called the Net of a Million | Burlington, MA Lies for nothing." - Vernor Vinge | (617) 229-4980
From: gt4722a@prism.gatech.EDU (James B. Atkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest Control: cancel <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> Subject: cancel <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> Message-ID: <134601@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Date: 28 Jan 94 06:43:08 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology I can't believe this ******** James B Atkins posted this garbage! Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Date: 28 Jan 1994 16:04:55 GMT Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Message-ID: <2ibd37$dns@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <CKAy10.8t@lysis.ch> The DEC XL is not certified to run NeXTSTEP, though I have heard from at least one person who has seen NS running on the XL. So, perhaps it will be certified at some point. In article <CKAy10.8t@lysis.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes: > Hi, > Has anyone experienced NS on a DECpc XL, PCI bus with Pentium chip?? > They have a PCI Viper video card - a driver soon available? > Does that machine have PCI 2.0? > > > Any comments are welcome! > > Thanks > > +----------------------------------+ > | Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch> | > | Institut de Recherche Lysis | > | Cotes de Montbenon 8 | > | CH-1003 LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND | > | Tel. ++ 41 21 - 312 91 91 | > | Fax. ++ 41 21 - 312 93 43 | > +----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: [Q]NeXTcolorPrinter works with mono station? Message-ID: <CKCJtn.97H@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <2i8p8e$dae@portal.gmu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 15:46:31 GMT In article <2i8p8e$dae@portal.gmu.edu> skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) writes: >> >>Dear folks; >> >>ok.. >>Can I use NeXTcolorPrinter(Canon Bubble) with mono-NeXTstation >>which connected to a LAN? >> >>Assume this, >>I have a color SUN,HP or Mac and a mono-NeXT station which are connected >>together by a LAN. >>I want to make a color output from a Mac or SUN and I let the NeXT color >>printer print the output. >> >>Do you think above assumption works? >> PostScript will output at the best color/pixel resolution of the device it's sent to - which means yes...it should (in theory) work the way you want. -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dot matrix printer drivers Date: 28 Jan 1994 17:08:30 GMT Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <2ibgqf$c4j@network.ucsd.edu> References: <2hk5r2INN5kk@network.ucsd.edu> <1994Jan26.205130.28355@ve6mgs.ampr.org> In article <1994Jan26.205130.28355@ve6mgs.ampr.org> mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) writes: >ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) writes: > >>My situation is that I have a Canon BJ200, which is Proprinter compatible. >>The Next supplied driver works okay, but only seems to support 180dpi. > >That is all this, and the other dot matrix printers are realy capable of. The >additional effort to use their 360dpi capability is not worth it since non >of these printers are allowed to have two 360dpi dots next to eachother. (deleted stuff) >Besides, I don't know why you would want 360dpi for a printer that has dots >in the order of .005" in diameter ... I still don't understand. The BJ 200 is an inkjet printer with a claimed 360dpi resolution. I don't know exactly what that means, but the quality of text printed out under Windows is significantly better than under NS. (That by itself is annoying, even if the quality under NS was completely acceptable.) An Alembic employee told me that Dots 3.5 would support many Canon BJs, so it sounds like I can fix the problem for $150 in the future, which is fine. In the meantime, I can live with jaggy text and print out anything important at school. doug. > >Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2) Subject: DeskJet500 Message-ID: <CKCKx9.39G@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 16:06:14 GMT
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OD ROM revision level? Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 12:01:35 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QhGIHjf0Bww816OtB8@transarc.com> I'm still trying to track down a panic I get on my '030 cube that occurs when I mount the OD -- but not every time I mount it; I suspect it depends on some set of mount options that I have yet to narrow in on. If a cube owner could send me their OD's boot messages, I'd like to see if my OD has the same ROM versions that your OD reports during boot. Thanks! -- Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scotto@cica.cica.indiana.edu (Scott Ostrander) Subject: Re: Experience w/ Toshiba 1GB disk in Nextstation? Message-ID: <CKCux4.70J@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications References: <2i9sb4$bga@darkstar.isi.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 19:46:15 GMT In article <2i9sb4$bga@darkstar.isi.edu>, Mike Carlton <carlton@darkstar.isi.edu> wrote: >I'm looking to purchase a 700MB-1GB disk for internal use in my >Nextstation. The best deal I've found (in the back of MacWeek) >is $649 for a 1GB Toshiba. It's model #MK-536, 12.5msec access, >3600RPM. It's sold by Spin (800) 466-1200. > >The price is right as far as I'm concerned. Has anyone used this >drive successfully with Next hardware? Any problems or concerns? > >cheers, >--mike (carlton@isi.edu) I have not used the mechanism personally, but I will relay two things I do know: 1. This is a product Toshiba no longer makes. 2. Friends of mine in the drive retail business report high levels of anomalous behavior reported by their customers from the Toshiba MK-536's their companies have sold; random lock ups, failures to boot and non-repeatable errors keep cropping up on all kinds of systems. Their advice, don't touch them. Okay, here's the disclaimer: This is word of mouth from people I trust, but it's their experiences alone they go by. Others may have no problems with this drive, but their reports are from many drives sold. Caveat emptor My opinions are NOT that of CICA or Indiana University. Scott Ostrander scotto@cica.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter) Subject: ** Pixel Magician and Image Agent--$149 ** Message-ID: <CKCMoJ.89p@beach.com> Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter) Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D. Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 16:48:18 GMT ****LIMITED TIME OFFER**** HSD OFFERS PIXEL MAGICIAN AND IMAGE AGENT FREE WITH SCANNER SYSTEMS CURRENT SCANNER OWNERS CAN PURCHASE PIXEL MAG/IMAGE AGENT FOR $149 *****CALL 1 (800) 828-5522 TO ORDER***** HSD today announced a promotion to include a FREE copy of the single-user version of Bacchus Inc.'s award-winning Pixel Magician and Image Agent software with each scanner system purchased from HSD through February, 1994. Complete product info is at the end of this message. HSD also announced an exclusive offer for current owners of HSD and Umax scanners to purchase a single-user copy of Pixel Magician/Image Agent directly from HSD for the reduced price of $149 (retail $299) during the promotion. This price is only available for orders placed directly through HSD and not from Bacchus. In addition, during the promotion HSD is reducing the retail prices of all 24-bit color scanner systems it is currently offering. The new prices are listed below: Scanner Old Retail New Retail Bundled Software Umax UC 630 $1495 $1295 Pixel Mag/Image Agent Umax UC 840 $1695 $1495 Pixel Mag/Image Agent Umax UC 1260 $2495 $1995 Pixel Mag/Image Agent All scanners are shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Package which includes three powerful scanning applications for computers running NEXTSTEP: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine. 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From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: My experiences trying to purchase a harddrive. Message-ID: <2i8jqb$kr@bilbo.suite.com> Date: 27 Jan 94 14:41:15 GMT References: <2hm2nq$d9@steffi.demon.co.uk> Organization: Suite Software In article <2hm2nq$d9@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: Lots deleted... > > I refuse to be dictated to by the rip off merchants that plague this > country. > > -- > "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) > "Nothing" Charade, 1963 > > robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (ASCII for text only messages) If you are still looking for a hard drive try: 1-800-572-4305 DC Direct Connections Penny (612)937-9604 Tech support Wade (612)937-6285 fax I just bought a drive from these people. They were best price, very helpful, excelent tech support that you can actually get a hold of etc. One company to AVOID: 1-800-473-0960 D. C. Drives 1110 Nasa Rd. STE 304 Houston, TX 77058 Similiar name but that is where the comparison ends. These folks are crooks IMHO. Scot
From: rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: #9 level 12 the highest? Configure.app confusing... Date: 28 Jan 1994 21:49:26 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <2ic196$9hv@news.bu.edu> References: <1994Jan27.165638.16471@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> #9 is coming out with some new video cards that have more than 3mb of vram on them. Ray Gasser rayg@cs.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Re: NS/I 3.2, ProAudio Spectrum 16, and Adaptec Message-ID: <1994Jan27.152448.3162@radical2.radical.com> Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. References: <PFP.94Jan26085546@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 15:24:48 GMT In article <PFP.94Jan26085546@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) writes: > >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Olson <olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> writes: > > Bob> Has anyone made this combination work? I have it working find > Bob> under DOS and Windows, but under NS I've gotten exactly one > Bob> sndplay to work. I have hacked on the PAS driver to unmute > Bob> the output source that was muted. However, from watching the > Bob> delays in Sound.app I think I may be getting bit by the SCSI > Bob> adapter grabbing the bus for too long (as per the following > Bob> note from the NextAnswer on the PAS: > > Bob> On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is > Bob> present, the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1-kHz > Bob> CD-quality sound. If the Adaptec controller controls the bus > Bob> for long periods of time, the Pro Audio Spectrum16 board is > Bob> locked out and freezes, which may cause a kernel panic. This > Bob> is a hardware problem that has also been discovered in other > Bob> 32-bit operating systems. > > I've got a LogiTech SoundMan 16 (This is a PAS 16 compatibel system > without SCSI port) in a 66MHZ EISA system with an AHA1542B and > everything works absolutely great. The SoundMan is very cheap, and > that was the major reason to buy it! > > > peter I have the Media Vision Pro Audio 16 Basic, which is the same as the Soundman, and I haven't gotten a single sound out of it with NEXTSTEP. The PA16B works okay under DOS/Windows. But it does not work under Windows NT. I have a 1991 Gateway 2000 486DX 33 MHz ISA system with an Adaptec 1542C. My disk drives are IDE so there should be no load on the SCSI card unless accessing the CD ROM, correct? A co-worker has the PA16B and a AHA1742 working okay under NEXTSTEP on his EISA system. Any thoughts, anyone? -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Subject: beeping/screaming hard drive Message-ID: <5DHLBCQH@math.fu-berlin.de> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 22:15:35 GMT I just installed a new Quantum 700S SCSI hard drive in a clone 486 with an Adaptec 1540 adapter. This system supported nextstep without incident in the past, with a different hard drive. Had no trouble installing Nextstep on the replacement drive. However, I now experience read time-outs and when significant swapping or other disk activity occur, the drive will temporarily halt and make a loud whine, beep, scream, whatever. Eventually, it stops and the drive picks up again. Is this a common problem? What can I do to resolve it? Thanks. -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://borg.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://borg.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: ward@crl.com (Ward Mullins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.help Subject: Any recommendations on S3928 cards for NS/FIP 3.1? Date: 28 Jan 1994 14:54:33 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <2ic539$bsd@crl.crl.com> Summary: looking for best performing compatible card for money A friend of mine asked me to post for the best video card for NS/FIP 3.1, and I would presume it's going to be one of the S3928 cards. He doesn't want to spend a $1000 so the #9GXE level 29 is probably out of the question :) If anyone has a good suggestion for a 2MB VLB card which can be expanded to 3MB or preferrably 4MB as well as a decent RAMDAC to support the resolution and bitwidths of the extra memory, he would be greatly appreciative! Please email me with S3 cards you recommend, as well as those you *don't* recommend Thanks! ward
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest From: Joshua B. Colglazier <coljos@homer.bethel.edu> Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Message-ID: <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 21:09:57 GMT Subject: MAKE MONEY FAST From: James B. Atkins, gt4722a@prism.gatech.EDU Date: 28 Jan 94 06:43:08 GMT In article <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> James B. Atkins, gt4722a@prism.gatech.EDU writes: > > >Dear Friend, > > My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was >reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you >wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks had >run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of failure was >my computer and my modem. I longed to turn my advocation into my >vocation. > > This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day cruise to >the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH in Feburary >1989. > > I am currently building a home on the West Coast of Florida, >with a private pool, boat slip, and a beautiful view of the bay >from my breakfast room table and patio. I will never have to work >again. Today I am rich! I have earned over $400,000.00 (Four >Hundred Thousand Dollars) to date and will become a millionaire >within 4 or 5 months. Anyone can do the same. This money making >program works perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have >NEVER failed to earn $50,000.00 or more whenever I wanted. Best >of all you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox >or post office. This post should be removed from most newsgroups, if not all. The Internet community is NOT a place for solicitations and should certainly not be considered a place for anyone to make money. In addition, this post could easily be considered the electronic equivalent of a chain-letter which is illegal in the United States according to Federal law.
From: Thomas Reed <reed@medicine.wustl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Date: 28 Jan 1994 15:04:42 GMT Organization: Washington University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ib9iaINNbs0@medicine.wustl.edu> References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> In article <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> James B. Atkins, gt4722a@prism.gatech.EDU writes: > My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was >reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you >wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks had Geez, these people just don't give up do they? I guess this guy wasn't listening a couple weeks ago when we all told the world how this scheme is illegal. So, if you're thinking of actually DOING this -- forget it. -Thomas ===================================================== Thomas Reed Washington University Reed@telesphere.wustl.edu Medical School (also: Reed@medicine.wustl.edu) ----------------------------------------------------- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. -- Mark Twain =====================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: clark@bruce.nist.gov Subject: "boot block extends beyond front porch" Message-ID: <CKD1J6.AL8@nist.gov> Sender: news@nist.gov Organization: NIST Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 22:09:05 GMT Anyone see this sort of console log report before and have any idea how to deal with it (for initializing an external drive) ? The obvious things haven't worked for me. BuildDisk: Starting build at Fri Jan 28 12:40:25 1994... disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label boot block extends beyond front porch -- Charles W. Clark Electron and Optical Physics Division National Institute of Standards and Technology Gaithersburg, MD 20899 USA
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: DPT 2022 Failures Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 29 Jan 1994 00:05:21 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2ic981$jlt@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2i7a89$nb1@hecate.umd.edu> I have experienced flakiness with the DPT 2012 adapters, too. Occasionally, even at bootup before anything starts. Shutting everything down for 10 seconds often cures the problem. Once up and running, they seem somewhat reliable (as long as <=2 hard disks are used!) at 5MB/sec. What I want to know is if there are more reliable alternatives to the DPT controller. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Benchmarks for Pentium/PCI w/ Miro 32s Message-ID: <1994Jan28.154644.711@mrk.com> Keywords: benchmarks 32s PCI Pentium Sender: jerald@mrk.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 15:46:44 GMT Hi there all, Finally got time to benchmark our new pentium system. I've made a table of the pentium benchmarks along with a NeXTStation Turbo Color and a 66 Mhz 486 w/ a GUP. The benchmarking program was NXBench 2.0 My setup was this; No apps loaded except NXbench and Workspace. Workspace was hidden so NXBenches window was only one on screen. Network traffic was nonexistant. The Pentium system is a Micron 60Mhz w/ a Micronics PCI/ISA motherboard. The 486 is a system I put together, it has a micronics EISA/VLB motherboard. Anyways, the numbers are as follow: NSTC Pentium/PCI 60Mhz 486/VLB 66Mhz 1120x832x16 miro 32s 1408x1024x16 GUP 1120x832x16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ dhrystones/s 34802 86455 54054 Vax Mips 22.096508 54.892063 34.32 Line 0.75508 0.86982 0.61105 arc/bezier 0.75474 0.86026 0.57723 fill 0.5216 0.61177 0.44149 transform 1.16925 2.06692 1.48240 composite 0.57694 0.65259 0.49541 user path 1.26753 1.92023 1.53807 text 0.45788 0.65386 0.45425 window 0.47070 0.48942 0.33118 NXFactor 0.75304 1.015613 0.741388 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- anyways, thems the benchmark numbers for what they're worth. Hope this helps someone out there in net land. Now if I can just convince my boss that our pentium doesn't do our market simulations fast enough maybe I can have gecko benchmarks... nah ;-) -- jerald dawson Systems Manager / Head Programmer Investor's Advantage / MRK *
From: sbonsib@data.cac.stratus.com (Steve Bonsib) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ProAudioSpectrum16 with CD Audio from back of drive. Will it work? Date: 29 Jan 1994 01:39:08 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2icens$9vg@transfer.stratus.com> Hello all, I have a CD rom drive with an audio output on the back that I have connected to the CD Audio input connector on the PAS16 board (it is a 5 pin connector situated along the top edge of the card). In DOS/Windows there is a neat little Mixer program that allows you to set levels of input and output for CD, Mike, Line In, etc. If you put an audio CD in the CDROM it will play it through the speakers (without having to disconnect them from the back of the machine and plug them into the audio jack of the CDROM drive...) and it mixes in the system beeps with it as well. This is what I would like NextStep to do, but no luck, I tried CDplayer.app and it would play the CD, but it would not do it "through" the card. I think all that needs to be done is to write a program that will write to the register on the card that controls the CD mix volume, I don't have a data sheet on the card that gives such data, does anyone have this info? Has anyone tried to do what I want? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for just reading this far, if nothing else..... --Steve sbonsib@cac.stratus.com Stratus Computer Marlboro MA 508 490-6434
From: krah6781@gmi.edu (Charlie Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why 51/4 diskdrive not supported ? Date: 28 Jan 1994 21:37:08 GMT Organization: GMI, Flint, MI Message-ID: <2ic0i4$epm@zip.eecs.umich.edu> I have a question of different sorts... When I get my computer running NS this spring, I want to run using _only_ a 3.5 floptical drive. Does anyone know if this is possible / any drivers out? Thank you. -- #include <std.disclaimer.h>; cat all.flames > /dev/null; _ ___ _ / \ | / \ Krah6781@GMI.Edu is: Charlie Brown | | | | EE / Comp. Sci Student at GMI, Flint, MI \_/ | \_/ Intern Electrical Engineer at OTC Division, Owatonna, MN ____________________________________________________________________________ | SPx Exponent of Excellence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski) Subject: Diskless boot Message-ID: <CKD2MB.1Lp@rkt.in-berlin.de> Sender: root@rkt.in-berlin.de (Operator) Organization: Home in Berlin Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 22:32:34 GMT Hi *, i would like to be able to boot a PC (diskless) via Network from an other PC running NeXTSTEP. Is it possible ?? Which bootproms i must use ?? Will i be able to boot other OS (e.g. 386BSD) from an PC running NeXTSTEP ?? Where can i get necessary information ?? Thanx Rene -- ____________________________________________________________________ Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> NeXTMail accepted.
From: austin@after.usask.ca (Alvin Austin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem booting Cube from Fujitsu M2263SA Date: 28 Jan 1994 17:30:39 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ibi3v$f3n@tribune.usask.ca> I've been useing a Fujitsu M2263SA (~672 MB formatted) hard disk for a while now as the secondary disk (/dev/sd1a) on a cube, and it has been working great. I wanted to put NeXTSTEP 3.2 on it and set it up as the boot disk. The install went great and the files are all readable when the system is booted from the cube's internal disk and the Fujitsu is mounted as /dev/sd1a. When I try to boot from the Fujitsu, however, using: NeXT> bsd(1,0,0) rootdev=sd1a the system refused to boot, complaining instead: sc: unexpected message #1 This repeats about once per second for a minute or so, and then the system dies with the message: "SCSI disk not found". -- The disk *is* terminated correctly. -- There are no conflicting SCSI addresses in use -- The disk works great if it is not the one used to boot the system. -- I also ran the BuildDisk application from the cube's internal disk to make the Fujitsu bootable. It completed no problem and the files are ok, but the same result as above when I try to boot from it. Does anyone know what's going on here? Thanks for any clues, Alvin ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alvin Austin Email: austin@cs.USask.Ca Department of Computational Science (NeXTmail ok!) (Mail) 1C101 Engineering Building Office: 145.1 Arts Building University of Saskatchewan Telephone: (306) 966-4895 Saskatoon, Sask. CANADA S7N 0W0 FAX: (306) 966-4885 -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Lobotomy on ProAudioSpectrum-16 board? Date: 29 Jan 1994 01:17:56 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2icdg5$ama@agate.berkeley.edu> In "1158_Pro_Audio_Spectrum_16.rtfd" of NeXTAnsers: >Release 3.2 and 3.1 > >On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is present, the Pro >Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1-kHz CD-quality sound. If the >Adaptec controller controls the bus for long periods of time, the >Pro Audio Spectrum16 board is locked out and freezes, which may >cause a kernel panic. This is a hardware problem that has also been >discovered in other 32-bit operating systems. What exactly is this hardware problem? Is it that both ProAudioSpect-16 and Adaptec SCSI controller want to be the SCSI master? If so, is there anything I can do to the ProAudio board to kill its SCSI section so it won't bother Adaptec? I am talking about surgical operations like poping a few chips off the board, or even cutting traces on the PC board. Release 3.2 has made it almost working, but it still panics once in a while when ProAudio is enabled on Epson NX. I think I will avoid ProAudioSpect in the future, but I am stuck with one now. Does anyone know how to do a lobotomy on this board ? -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: leej@sys4.cs.jmu.edu (jiyub lee ) Subject: Adaptec 1542b for sale Message-ID: <CKB5MK.Cy@hub.cs.jmu.edu> Summary: Adaptec 1542b SCSI Controller for sale Keywords: SCSI Sender: newsusr@hub.cs.jmu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: James Madison University Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 21:42:15 GMT I have an Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller in its original case with all the docs, cables, and disks. It's only two months old and tested with NS/FIP 3.1 and 3.2 I sold my PC and about to buy a Mac so I cannot use it. $175.00 or best offer email me at leej@sunrise.cs.jmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki) Subject: Re: Summary: NeXT station on side? In-Reply-To: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu's message of Mon, 24 Jan 1994 00:41:15 GMT Message-ID: <KEN.94Jan26155743@ieyasu.phys.titech.ac.jp> Sender: news@phys.titech.ac.jp (Usenet News System) Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology References: <CK3z8s.AFs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 06:57:43 GMT In article <CK3z8s.AFs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) writes: >> From: Mike Matthews <Mike_Matthews@sgate.com> >> The major concern, since ventilation is OK, is the hard drive. They tend to >> get upset at you when their orientation is different from their formatting. >> I'm not exactly sure why (miniscule differences in the way the i/o head >> tracks with the different gravitation pull? I dunno) but it seems to be >> true. In case you're interested, I'm worrying about my hard drive and my wallet, and just trying to adapt to the higher monitor position. Doesn't this mean you just have to (low level) format the drive in the position you want to keep it? Some time ago, I had a 8088 (wow!) machine, with a wopping 32MB(!) drive. I DID indeed have problems (media errors) after putting it on its side, but it was happy after I low level reformatted it. As far as I know, the computer still works.... -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN $@@DLZ7r0lO:!$El5~9)6HBg3XM}3XItJ*M}3X2J!$")(J152 $@El(J$@5~ETL\9u6hBg2,;3(J
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (J. LaPierre) Subject: Re: PAS-16 and CD Player??? Message-ID: <1994Jan28.225116.24285@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Keywords: PAS-16, CD Player Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York References: <nemiroal.37.0000318F@bus.orst.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 22:51:16 GMT In <nemiroal.37.0000318F@bus.orst.edu> nemiroal@bus.orst.edu writes: >Hello folks, >I just got my system today and I have been told that the CD-Player application >can not Play the sound out of the ProAudio Spectrum 16, it just spins the CD >and you have to plug in the speakers through the micro-jack on the CD ROM >player itself. >Does there exist a CD-Player that work with the PAS-16?? Well, the person who told you this was semi-correct. But the problem does not lie within the CDPlayer program, it's in the default settings for the PAS16 Driver. When the driver is loaded at bootup, it resets the mixer in such a way that the Internal CD-Audio jack on the PAS16 card is muted. The solution then, is a modified driver. I have done this modification and if anyone wants it I will be happy to mail it to them. If there is enough interest I will submit it to an archive. Hope this helps. -Jason Jason LaPierre // Keep an eye out for my soon to be (2weeks) University of Rochester // released Toshiba 3401 CDPlayer, with lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu // programming, and eventually cataloging
From: hironobu@sra.CO.JP (Hironobu SUZUKI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Benchmarks for Pentium/PCI w/ Miro 32s Message-ID: <HIRONOBU.94Jan29155009@sran265.sra.CO.JP> Date: 29 Jan 94 06:50:09 GMT References: <1994Jan28.154644.711@mrk.com> Sender: news@sran265.sra.co.jp Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan In-reply-to: jerald@mrk.com's message of 28 Jan 94 15:46:44 GMT In article <1994Jan28.154644.711@mrk.com> jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) writes: >>Finally got time to benchmark our new pentium system. I've made a table >>of the pentium benchmarks along with a NeXTStation Turbo Color and a 66 >>Mhz 486 w/ a GUP. The benchmarking program was NXBench 2.0 >> Could you try to do Byte's benchmark on your machine? I quick-hacked Bytebenchmark for NeXTSTEP and put its MAB file on ftp site sonata.cc.purdue.edu:pub/next/submissions and cs.orst.edu:pub/next/submissions. ( NOTE: Original Bytebanchmark don't work because /usr/bin/join don't work on NeXTSTEP. ) NXBench is a good benchmark test for graphic performance and Bytebenchmark is a good benchmark test for total performance without graphics. If you have a technical question about this Bytebanchmark for NeXTSTEP, please contact to me. --hironobu ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hironobu Suzuki Practical Software Engineering Laboratory Software Research Associates, Inc, Japan. 3-12, Yotsuya, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160, JAPAN. E-Mail: hironobu@sra.co.jp NeXT-Mail: hironobu@ext247.sra.co.jp
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q]Hercules SuperStation XP-841V? Date: 28 Jan 1994 01:11:15 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <2i9onj$id1@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear; Is anybody running NeXTStep for Intel with Hercules Superstation XP-841V video card? Mine has 4MB VRAM. Does it work for High resolution graphic? (32bit) Please mail me.. Thanks <Soonam> soonam@isse.gmu.edu
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: *Finally*. I gots me a NeXT. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 28 Jan 94 15:37:17 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Jan28153717@yang.cpac.washington.edu> After much trepidation (and still coping with not getting all the parts I ordered from DEC after five weeks), it was a pleasant change to deal with DPT, who told me what ROMs I needed to install in the SCSI card to install NeXTstep. The ROMs arrived via overnight mail, I stuck 'em in, made sure all the SCSI IDs worked properly (they did), and inserted the NeXTstep 3.2 CDROM and floppy, closed my eyes, and did a restart. I kept waiting for one of those catastrophic failures. You could hardly blame me; after having to send a Dell machine back with random memory failures, and then being thoroughly *&@#ed by DEC for three weeks (which still hasn't ended; they keep telling me that I haven't ordered things I ALREADY PAID FOR), I was just waiting for yet another delay. It went fine. For the first time, a PC in my apartment entered the wonderful world of being able to do more than one thing at a time. In fact, the installation went *wonderfully* smoothly. Even the sound works. Even the CDPlayer.app seems to work! And everything looks so tiny in 1280x1024x16. :) For those of you that care, here's what I have: DEC MTE 466d2 128K cache (to be 256K when DEC decides to actually SEND it) 32MB RAM 5 EISA slots, 1 VESA slot, one proprietary slot (see next) DEC S3-928 video card with 4MB VRAM in proprietary slot. DPT 2022 EISA SCSI card ProAudio Studio 16 Micropolis 2210 1GB SCSI drive Toshiba 3401 external CD-ROM drive Archive Viper (or Maynard) 2525S (525MB QIC SCSI external tape drive) PS/2-style three-button mouse A loaner keyboard (in this case, an IBM 101-key) ViewSonic 17 (17" monitor) Everything's peachy. Color is nice. The screen is a little flickery, but that's a function of the video card rather than the monitor, and it's not too bad---the extra screen space is certainly worth it (though I'd recommend a 19" or bigger monitor). And now, off to post about my ignorances in another newsgroup. :) ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: DPT 2022 Failures Date: 28 Jan 1994 23:32:05 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2ic3p5$uv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2i7a89$nb1@hecate.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit elitman@nxstep.com (Eric Litman) writes: >We've fielded over 120 machines (Intel Pro/GX) with DPT2022 controllers and >various hard drives. We've run the gambit in firmware (from 5A through many >engineering revs to the latest). We've spoken with just about everyone in a >technical and managment position within DPT. And still, the intermittent >failures we experience with these controllers are far from being solved. >Anyone figured out the "working" combination? Currently, we have the best >luck with the Quantum LPS drive series, but also use DEC DSP (fast, very >fast), and Maxtor. Sounds weird... Are you sure you configured IRQ to edge-triggerd with your ECU? What does your typical SCSI chain look like? I currently use a DPT 2021 with a DEC DSP, a Fujitsu 2624, a Toshiba CD-ROM and a Sankyo QIC streamer. I had to remove a SyQuest drive from the chain because it definetly caused a total failure on the SCSI bus each time the DEC DSP was connected to. Furthermore, an actively terminated DEC at the end did not work, but a passively terminated Fujitsu at the end did work. After fiddling aroung, praying to Redwood and some other Voodoo stuff, it finally works great. It is not necessary the host adapter which is responsible for the failure. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: htoh@usfca.edu (Hunpin Toh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: sdformat on Fujitsu M2694ESA Date: 29 Jan 1994 11:45:07 GMT Organization: University of San Francisco Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2idi83$53b@noc.usfca.edu> References: <1994Jan26.004442.49779@slate.mines.colorado.edu> David M. Wood (dmwood@geek.Mines.Colorado.EDU) wrote: : I would be grateful, and reassured, to hear from anyone who has : successfully used Brian Willoughby's new sdformat utility to re-format a : Fujitsu M2694ESA drive to 1024-byte sectors. : Any pitfalls? --Many thanks! : -- : David M. Wood : Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 : Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 : e-mail: dmwood@Mines.Colorado.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome I had recently bought a Fujitsu M2691E drive(supposedly a new model) at the Macworld Expo and just last week, I successfully reformatted my drive using sdformat to 1024-byte sectors. As a result, I now have an additional 30MB and better performance over the previous default of 512-byte sector size. I believe sdformat works on most Fujitsu drives. Give it a try! ----- Hunpin Toh htoh@lynx.cs.usfca.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: anyone use US Robotic FAXModem successful ? Message-ID: <CKB7EK.F7I@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <CK03K8.Duv@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 22:20:43 GMT In article <CK03K8.Duv@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) writes: > >I am choosing a moden from followins: > > 1. Supra FaxModem V.32bis > 2. Supra FaxModem 144LC > 3. US Robotics Sportster 14400. > >Does somebody fail to use one of the above modem ? > >If you have a used one want to sell or you know where I can buy it at low price, I will very appreciate your offer or recommendation. > > >Thanks in advance, > > >Chun-Yen It seems that no-one supports Class I modems on NeXTSTEP as everyone is switching to Class II. Class is not to be confused with Group. I bought a US Robotics Sportster 14,400 modem and had to change it for a Class II modem after phoning Black & White Software about their NXFax software, and finding I had a Class I modem, and they had no plans to support Class I modems. The HSD and Interfax selections that come bundled don't work with the US Robotics Sportster. I don't know about the Supra modems, but at least you know what the problem *might* be. My colleauge bought a Zoom modem, which works fine with the HSD bundled selection, but I don't believe they are still available. david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: skinny on new HP box (Gecko) Message-ID: <1994Jan28.101001.13524@icaen.uiowa.edu> Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon) Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa References: <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <CJxytE.Kz7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com> <1994Jan27.134359.1672@cyantic.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 10:10:01 GMT mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes: >In article <CK6s7M.41I@boi.hp.com> choyt@boi.hp.com (Craig Hoyt) writes: >>benjamin bernhard (bbernhar@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote: >>: In article <BWH.94Jan20122954@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: >>: >In article <9401191557.AA00726@tsiny.psca.com> mlescoez@tsiny.psca.com (Mark Paul LeScoezec) writes: >>: > >>: > ADDITIONAL MEMORY >>: > --------------------------------- >>: >> 8 MBs RAM (2 x 4 MB SIMMs) 620 >>: >> 16 MB RAM (2 x 8 MB SIMMs) 1,170 >>: >> 32 MB RAM (2 x 16 MB SIMMs) 4,340 >>: >> 64 MBs RAM (2 x 32 MB SIMMs) 8,740 >>: > >>: >Ah, now I see where they make their money. These prices are about bloody >>: >ridiculous! >This is exactly why HP is never one of the platforms we recommend for our >clients. It's not just the price, but also that in the past the SIMMS were >proprietary. I think there has been some improvement here, and we will >continue to watch closely. The SPARC LX still catches my eye as my next >desktop box. Oh please, this is ridiculous. I can name at least a half dozen makers of RAM for HP systems. HP's aren't any more proprietary in the RAM they need than a Sparc LX or certainly a Sparc 10. The Sparc LX is so painfully slow compared to every other workstation out there its ridiculous, only people who are unfortunately locked into Suns from previous purchases or are forced because some software package they need that was developed five years ago when Suns were BIG and is poorly written and can't be ported. Doug Siebert || dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu || Defeat Usenet spool grepping! Kibo Turkey Greece Macedonia Perl Watcom Mason Clinton Illuminati Fnord Hastur
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: "boot block extends beyond front porch" Message-ID: <1994Jan29.124312.18383@icaen.uiowa.edu> Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon) Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa References: <CKD1J6.AL8@nist.gov> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 12:43:12 GMT clark@bruce.nist.gov writes: >Anyone see this sort of console log report before and have any idea >how to deal with it (for initializing an external drive) ? >The obvious things haven't worked for me. >BuildDisk: Starting build at Fri Jan 28 12:40:25 1994... >disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N >disk type: fixed_rw_scsi >writing disk label >boot block extends beyond front porch Unless I'm mistaken the 43400N is a 3.4G (unformatted) drive, right? Well, there's your problem. The NeXT can't handle a drive larger than 2G. 2^31-1 bytes, to be precise. Its a common Unix limitation for 32 bit systems, some vendors have increased it to 4G, some larger than that with special software that costs extra. Then there's DEC, with the 64 bit Alpha. Is 2^63-1 bytes large enough for you? :-) Doug Siebert || dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu || Defeat Usenet spool grepping! Kibo Turkey Greece Macedonia Perl Watcom Mason Clinton Illuminati Fnord Hastur
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Message-ID: <CKEE6u.KA@unocal.com> Sender: news@unocal.com (Unocal USENET News) Organization: Unocal Corporation References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> <2ib9iaINNbs0@medicine.wustl.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 15:40:06 GMT In article <2ib9iaINNbs0@medicine.wustl.edu>, Thomas Reed <reed@medicine.wustl.edu> wrote: >In article <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> James B. Atkins, >gt4722a@prism.gatech.EDU writes: >> My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was >>reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you >>wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks had > >Geez, these people just don't give up do they? I guess this guy wasn't >listening a couple weeks ago when we all told the world how this scheme >is illegal. So, if you're thinking of actually DOING this -- forget it. > >-Thomas The InterNet/Usenet doubles in size in every year and will continue to do so until about half of the computers in the US/world are netted. (2.5 nodes estimated 1/1994, perhaps 6 more years of doubling left.) Among the newbies are those who fall for scams on either side of the fence. It may get worse before better.
From: sbender@access3.digex.net (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Please Help!! Can't boot NSFIP anymore! Date: 29 Jan 1994 11:44:54 -0500 Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <2ie3q6$gsi@access3.digex.net> Please Help!! I can longer boot NeXTSTEP. While trying to configure a ProAudioSpectrum I was getting time outs from my DPT2022, and the boot process got stuck after checking the root device. I then removed the PAS16 and while rebooting, I got this: Load of /etc/mach_init failed, errno 13, trying /etc/init Load of /etc/init failed, errno 13 The boot process stops here, no more messages. As usuall I have'nt made a backup in about a month. There's very important information on my system that I can't get acces to. Is there a way to boot off CDROM or floppy, so that I can at least backup important files before reinstalling? I use black hardware at work. Would it be possible to mount this drive (a Micropolis 2210 SCSI) and backup or repair from there. If you have any idea how to fix this please send e-mail. I'll post a summary when I get the problem resolved. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Bender | E-Mail: sbender@Mountain.Net, Harmony Data Systems | 76057.653@compuserve.com or 2141 Wisconsin Ave NW Unit 504 | sbender@access.digex.net Washington, DC 20007 | (NeXT-Mail Accepted) Voice & Fax: 202-342-1214 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tron1@shasti.xei.com (Kenneth Jamieson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Date: 29 Jan 1994 11:48:14 -0000 Organization: Xanadu Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <2ididu$4of@shasti.xei.com> References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu>, Joshua B. Colglazier <coljos@homer.bethel.edu> wrote: > >This post should be removed from most newsgroups, if not all. The >Internet community is NOT a place for solicitations and should certainly >not be considered a place for anyone to make money. In addition, this >post could easily be considered the electronic equivalent of a >chain-letter which is illegal in the United States according to Federal >law. Ok - I don't like this "MAKE MONEY" stupidity any more than anyone else, but I will make 2 points here. 1) The "Internet Community" damn sure is a place for people to make money. They do it, and have been doing it all the time. 2) A "chain letter" to my knowledge is under federal law BECAUSE it uses the mail system in the U.S.A. Thus, there is no legal "electronic equivalent". -- Too tired to think of a funny .signature. Kenneth Jamieson tron1@shasti.xei.com / tron1@xei.jvnc.net / tron1@wisdom.bubble.org Via Linux ALPHA 0.99 PL14l - Thanks Linus!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: federico@heinz.in-berlin.de (Federico Heinz) Subject: Re: Dot matrix printer drivers Message-ID: <1994Jan29.154251.288@dart.de> Sender: federico@dart.de Organization: d'ART Software GmbH References: <2ibgqf$c4j@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 94 15:42:51 GMT In article <2ibgqf$c4j@network.ucsd.edu> ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) writes: >That is all this, and the other dot matrix printers are realy capable >of. The additional effort to use their 360dpi capability is not worth >it since non of these printers are allowed to have two 360dpi dots next >to each other. [...] Well---that's both right and wrong. All technical details Doug tells us are right, yet his conclusion (360dpi is not worth the trouble) is wrong. It's true that none of these preinters can print two dots side-to-side, but the ability to more finely control which dots get fired and which not does make a difference, and quite a noticeable one. I have these two printouts from a Canon BJ300 right here in my hand to prove it. Anyway, support for dot matrix printers other than the DeskJet is back in Dots starting with version 3.5, to be released soon and available at an archive server near your site, so you can check it for yourself. Federico DISCLAIMER: would you have guessed I'm the program's author?
From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF with >1GB HD Date: 29 Jan 1994 12:56:11 -0600 Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Message-ID: <2iebgb$4ct@home.interaccess.com> References: <9401232256.AA16032@relay2.geis.com> In article <9401232256.AA16032@relay2.geis.com>, <erictremblay@genie.geis.com> wrote: >Sheng Liang: > >The NeXT Answers section 1108 says that NS 3.2 doesn't support drives > >greater than 1GB on Adaptec 1542CF. But I'm now stuck with them. I > >wonder if there is some way to make the combination work. Has anyone > >succeeded in NS working with 1542CF and a smaller than 1GB partition > >on a large hard drive? Or, is this inherently impossible? > some stuff cut. >Since the 1542CF was made AFTER the 1542C I would ASSUME that it would work > fine with drives of over 1GB. Did any of you verified that the 1542CF > does not work with drives of over 1GB??? > I had some difficulties similar to this last week. I upgraded our NS/FIP machine with a 2GB drive and set about trying to reinstall the OS. The main problem I encountered was the NEXTSTEP boot program's fdisk utility couldn't access over 1GB of the drive, even though it was 2MB. After calling NeXT they said it was a firmware problem with the 1542B I had in my machine, it could be upgraded, but the 1542C would also work. Well, we happened to have a 1542C lying around so I tried that. Still the same problem. So I called Adaptec. Boy, it was like banging my head against a brick wall. I was told repeatedly that it could not be done, only 1GB was accessable and the only OS to access more than 1GB was DOS in Extended DOS partition mode. Repeatedly the guy told me NOT to use this mode for NEXTSTEP as it would not work, no way, don't do it, never. I put the phone down, pissed off by now. Rebooted the machine and went into the 1542C setup program to have a snoot around. Well, inside there is indeed a menu where you can turn on the Extended DOS partition (>1GB) scheme. So I did, and IT WORKED. fdisk within NEXTSTEP saw the whole disk. I now have 400MB for DOS and 1600MB (or there abouts) for NEXTSTEP. Works fine, no problems. I think Adaptec needs a lesson in NEXTSTEP somehow. - Brian. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Image Art Take the next "No problems... Only Solutions" Brian Leake step with NEXTSTEP phyd@interaccess.com _____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical Drive for Intel? From: tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano) Distribution: world Message-ID: <1.4265.2588.0N27BCA8@satalink.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 08:19:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 Is there a read-write optical drive that works with NS/Intel? =%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=% Tim Romano Swarthmore Pennsylvania tim.romano@satalink.com %=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%= --- þ CmpQwk #UNREGþ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Motorola et al -- From: tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano) Distribution: world Message-ID: <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com> References: <EPELB5OF@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 94 08:19:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 There is clearly a practical benefit to be obtained from splitting the group into threads corresponding to hardware platforms, and that benefit will only increase with time as more hardware platforms run NS. But let's not name the groups too specifically, so that they ask to be renamed later. Examples of candidates that may have to be renamed later: i486 -- What about Pentium (586)? Gecko -- the pet name may change Nor should there be as many names as there are CPU-specific compiler directives: the questions posed here, when they do relate to compatibility issues, are usually much broader than that. A CPU-specific taxonomy will make information only harder to find, not easier. Moreover, while there _are_ ways of readily indicating such specificity (e.g. in the Subject line) there would be no easy way to _consolidate_ such a hydra-headed forum when searching for information. I'd apply Occam's Razor, and suggest something like this: .Intel .HP .Sun .Motorola .DEC (if an alphaPC port should come to pass) .PowerPC ( " PowerPC " ) and would urge more careful use of the Subject line so that very specific information can be more readily found when it is needed. I appreciate the help I've gotten here and on the NeXT forum in CompuServe, and offer these suggestions as someone who is more likely to be looking for information here than providing it, since I'm new to NeXTSTEP. But I hope my ignorance may prove to be of some use to this discussion ;-) Tim =%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=% Tim Romano Swarthmore Pennsylvania tim.romano@satalink.com %=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%=%= --- þ CmpQwk #UNREGþ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: machang@random.uchicago.edu (Andrew ChinKwang Chang) Subject: Re: Experience w/ Toshiba 1GB disk in Nextstation? Message-ID: <1994Jan29.202600.25266@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies References: <2i9sb4$bga@darkstar.isi.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 20:26:00 GMT In article <2i9sb4$bga@darkstar.isi.edu> carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: > I'm looking to purchase a 700MB-1GB disk for internal use in my > Nextstation. The best deal I've found (in the back of MacWeek) > is $649 for a 1GB Toshiba. It's model #MK-536, 12.5msec access, > 3600RPM. It's sold by Spin (800) 466-1200. > > The price is right as far as I'm concerned. Has anyone used this > drive successfully with Next hardware? Any problems or concerns? > I have a new Toshiba 1G internal drive. I think the model is MK537(?). Anyway it is the drive you mentioned. It works fine with my NeXT and I have no technical problems of it. The only thing is that I have my computer in my own room and it is a little bit loud at night, especially when it is swapping disk space. But I think you can get what you pay. -- Andrew C. Chang (NeXT mail welcome) Graduate School of Business, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 60637 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * It is always good when a man has two irons in the fire. * * -JOHN FLETCHER * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: chris@jbasp.demon.co.uk (Chris Bradshaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [HELP] 3.1 hangs for no reason!!! Date: 28 Jan 1994 18:40:55 -0000 Organization: JBA Software Products, Studley, England. Message-ID: <2ibm7n$6on@silver.jba.com> Greetings Netters... I have recently installed Next 3.1 on a 486DX2 66 Mhz VL Bus machine with 32 Mb RAM, an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller, a Maxtor 521 Mb SCSI disk and a Toshiba XM 3401B SCSI CD-ROM drive. The trouble is that it always hangs with the following error in a System Panic message window: panic: (Cpu 0) strange ipc_state RDP (some text I can't remember).... exception 6 code 3 subcode 0 Waiting for RDP connection (Press 'c' to continue) I have followed carefully all of the recommendations by Next tech support with regard to the SCSI card and devices I am using. Anybody any ideas? Anybody even know what the above means? Any and all replies greatly appreciated... thanx in advance. -- Chris Bradshaw ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- JBA Software Products Ltd., | Internet: chris@jbasp.demon.co.uk Eagle House, | Studley, | Voice: (0527) 854525 Warwickshire B80 7EN, | FAX: (0527) 857146 England. | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sbender@access1.digex.net (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Please Help!! Can't boot NSFIP anymore! Date: 29 Jan 1994 15:42:28 -0500 Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <2iehnk$h96@access1.digex.net> References: <2ie3q6$gsi@access3.digex.net> Sorry to waste everyones time, but I finally got my disk back up. I took the disk to work and hooked it up to a white machine with NSIP. I then ran a fsck on the drive, which removed most of the files in /private/etc, and then replaced the missing files. Every thing runs fine now. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Bender | E-Mail: sbender@Mountain.Net, Harmony Data Systems | 76057.653@compuserve.com or 2141 Wisconsin Ave NW Unit 504 | sbender@access.digex.net Washington, DC 20007 | (NeXT-Mail Accepted) Voice & Fax: 202-342-1214 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rsilvers@media.mit.edu (Rob Silvers) Subject: Re: Intel Motorola et al -- Message-ID: <1994Jan29.204118.8010@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <EPELB5OF@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 20:41:18 GMT In article <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com> tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano) writes: > >There is clearly a practical benefit to be obtained from splitting the >group into threads corresponding to hardware platforms, and that benefit >will only increase with time as more hardware platforms run NS. > >But let's not name the groups too specifically, so that they ask to be >renamed later. Examples of candidates that may have to be renamed >later: > i486 -- What about Pentium (586)? > Gecko -- the pet name may change > >I'd apply Occam's Razor, and suggest something like this: > > .Intel > .HP > .Sun > .Motorola > .DEC (if an alphaPC port should come to pass) > .PowerPC ( " PowerPC " ) > Maybe .Sun would be better .sparc Maybe .Motorola would be better .m68k --Rob.
From: icardena@dcl-nxt09 (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What should I pay for... Date: 29 Jan 1994 23:18:26 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2ieqs2$d5n@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Hello there. I was wondering what one would expect to pay for a machinre configured as follows: like new, rarely used, NeXT cube model N1000. 17" monochrome monitor 345 Mbyte internal hard drive with operating system loaded optical drive ethernet keyboard, mouse DSP sound, microphone built in external scsi bus for expansion 4 asynchronous serial/ 1 Centronics parallel scsi port expander box this means cheap off the shelf modems and/or printers can be used I believe it has an '030 and am unsure about the amount of RAM (probably around 8-16MB?) I also had a couple of questions about expandibility. 1) Does all a mono NeXTcube need to display color a Color monitor? I know this must seem silly but I don't know how a computer could be built _not_ to support color. I hope a NeXTdimension board isn't neccassary... 2) How easy is it to upgrade from an '030 to an '040 ... and how expensive? Thanx for taking the time to read this... :) -Ian -- *x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x* X Ian P.Cardenas X Love- Floats like a flower petal, X CS Major at UIUC X stings like a cattleprod X Mudaholic X X icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest From: pizor@lclark.edu (Tovarich Pizor) Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Message-ID: <1994Jan29.225607.12678@lclark.edu> Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 22:56:07 GMT >This post should be removed from most newsgroups, if not all. Unfortunately, comp.sys.mac.games is not (as far as I know) a moderated news- group; as such, there is no one with the authority to remove such posts. >The >Internet community is NOT a place for solicitations and should certainly >not be considered a place for anyone to make money. Does this include the shareware authors who often post here to informus of their latest works? The message itself may not be an out-and-out solicitation, but the concept definitely qualifies IMHO. >In addition, this >post could easily be considered the electronic equivalent of a >chain-letter which is illegal in the United States according to Federal >law. It could and should be considered the equivelent, and thus morally illegal. As I understand it though, they can neither be arrested nor can chrages be pressed because there is not, as of yet, legislation forbidding electronic chain letters; only chain letters sent through the USPS. So, even though the concept is the same, it is technically legal -- inasmuch as it isn't technically illegal, and thanks to innocent until proven guilty they stay innocent because there is no specific law that you can prove they've broken. DISCLAIMER: As I stated, the above is based on my understanding only, and tho I'm pretty sure I'm right I may be wrong. Anyone know any legal experts who could answer this one once and for all? Akira -- Rich "Akira" Pizor, pizor@lclark.edu | "[The Big Bang Theory] doesn't pre- Lewis and Clark College | clude the existence of God; it just LC Box 663 | means that even He must follow the Portland, OR 97219 | laws of physics." -- Stephan Hawking
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "boot block extends beyond front porch" (long) Date: 30 Jan 1994 00:37:10 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2ievfm$lrm@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <CKD1J6.AL8@nist.gov> <1994Jan29.124312.18383@icaen.uiowa.edu> Doug Siebert (dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu) wrote: : clark@bruce.nist.gov writes: : >Anyone see this sort of console log report before and have any idea : >how to deal with it (for initializing an external drive) ? : >The obvious things haven't worked for me. : >BuildDisk: Starting build at Fri Jan 28 12:40:25 1994... : >disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N : >disk type: fixed_rw_scsi : >writing disk label : >boot block extends beyond front porch : Unless I'm mistaken the 43400N is a 3.4G (unformatted) drive, right? Well, : there's your problem. The NeXT can't handle a drive larger than 2G. 2^31-1 : bytes, to be precise. Its a common Unix limitation for 32 bit systems, some : vendors have increased it to 4G, some larger than that with special software : that costs extra. Then there's DEC, with the 64 bit Alpha. Is 2^63-1 bytes : large enough for you? :-) : Doug Siebert || dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu || Defeat Usenet spool grepping! : Kibo Turkey Greece Macedonia Perl Watcom Mason Clinton Illuminati Fnord Hastur Here is a "core-dump" of the messages I received when I needed to format my 43400 drive. I will try to disguise the author to save him from "save me" email messages. I also remember vaguely that the essential part is to do the setup right after the low-level format: ---------------------------------------------------------------- When I first attached the drive and tried to set it up, I got something like this: /usr/etc/disk -i -h nimno -l "Wren_I" /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2844127 50 21 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s seek error: 2844126 wtfs: Error 0 /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) After this, I found out that 3.5 GB is more than 2^32 which is as large as can be set up on a NeXT. So I started digging in the man pages for "disk" and SCSIMODES and tried to figure out what I was doing wrong. Here's something I wrote earlier to a guy in Germany who also asked about this: "The main problem was twofold, but was solved in about 10 minutes with confirmation from NeXT that there is either a bug in the disk utility documentation, or a problem with the way the program gets the disk technical information. The Elite 3 has to be partitioned in order to be able to be used with NeXT. I created two roughly equal partitions, each of which was slightly larger than the Wren 8 this drive replaced for only about $500 more cost! SCSIMODES reported 512 byte sectors, which according to disk should be used to computer the partition size. Disk, however, found 1024 byte sector sizes which turned out to be the right number to use. The whole process went quickly and smoothly once we ignored the documentation and used intuition instead. :-)" Ah hah! Found it. Archived off on an optical disk, but I _knew_ I wouldn't throw something like this away! Date: Thu, 25 Feb 93 10:22:59 CST From: To: ask_next@next.com Subject: RE: [39498] I am attempting to initialize a Seagate Elite-3 (ST43400N) 3.5 GB hard disk. Here's what the basic workspace initialization tries: /usr/etc/disk -i -h nimno -l "Wren_I" /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2844127 50 21 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s seek error: 2844126 wtfs: Error 0 /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) Based on our conversation earlier today, I computed the following -p factor and tried this: nimno:1# /etc/disk -i -l Wren_I -p 2844072 /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2844072 50 21 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s seek error: 2844071 wtfs: Error 0 /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) Where 2844072 is in 512 byte sectors as specified in /etc/disk man page: -p partitionsize The first partition of a two-partition disk will be partitionsize, and the second partition uses the remainder of the disk. The partitionsize is in units of the native blocksize of the device (minimum 1K). The -p option only has meaning when used with -i. It looks like the workspace was actually trying to "do the right thing" after all, according to the documentation. Here's some additional information that makes me think something isn't happening right. nimno:2# /usr/etc/disk /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> label label information: print, write? print current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: Wren_I disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N-512 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi ncyls 2737 ntrack 21 nsect 50 rpm 300 sector_size 1024 front_porch 96 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at -1 #2 at 32 bootfile: sdmach host name: localhost root partition: a read/write partition: b part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 2844072 8192 1024 16 2048 0% yes space yes 4.3BSD b 2844072 55 8192 1024 16 2048 0% yes space yes 4.3BSD disk> quit NB: the 'b' partition shown above is newly-created information. Yesterday afternoon when I ran the same command, I got the following: a 0 2844127 8192 1024 16 2048 0% yes space yes 4.3BSD This information resulted in: /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2844127 50 21 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s seek error: 2844126 wtfs: Error 0 Different numbers, same result. Here's what scsimodes says right now. nimno:3# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: SEAGATE ST43400N 512 bytes per sector 99 sectors per track 21 tracks per cylinder 2737 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 9 spare sectors per cylinder 21 alternate tracks per volume 5688446 usable sectors on volume Date: Thu, 25 Feb 93 10:50:12 CST From: To: Subject: RE: [39498] Continuation of previous message: So, figuring that the documentation is not quite right, I cut the number in half to match 1k sectors instead of 512 bytes. Here's what I got: (Ivo: here's the winning entry. You should change Wren_I to match what you want to call your drive.) nimno:7# /etc/disk -i -l Wren_I -p 1422036 /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1422036 50 21 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s Warning: 2048 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 7340 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 714 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 1422036 sectors in 1355 cylinders of 21 tracks, 50 sectors 1456.2Mb in 85 cyl groups (16 c/g, 17.20Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 16872, 33728, 50584, 67440, 84296, 101152, 118008, 134864, 151720, 168576, 185432, 202288, 219144, 236000, 252856, 269712, 286568, 303424, 320280, 337136, 353992, 370848, 387704, 404560, 421416, 438272, 455128, 471984, 488840, 505696, 522552, 537616, 554472, 571328, 588184, 605040, 621896, 638752, 655608, 672464, 689320, 706176, 723032, 739888, 756744, 773600, 790456, 807312, 824168, 841024, 857880, 874736, 891592, 908448, 925304, 942160, 959016, 975872, 992728, 1009584, 1026440, 1043296, 1060152, 1075216, 1092072, 1108928, 1125784, 1142640, 1159496, 1176352, 1193208, 1210064, 1226920, 1243776, 1260632, 1277488, 1294344, 1311200, 1328056, 1344912, 1361768, 1378624, 1395480, 1412336, creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1b /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1b setting optimization for space with minfree less than 10 /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1b 1422091 50 21 8192 1024 16 0 5 2048 s Warning: 2048 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 7341 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 659 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1b: 1422091 sectors in 1355 cylinders of 21 tracks, 50 sectors 1456.2Mb in 85 cyl groups (16 c/g, 17.20Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 16872, 33728, 50584, 67440, 84296, 101152, 118008, 134864, 151720, 168576, 185432, 202288, 219144, 236000, 252856, 269712, 286568, 303424, 320280, 337136, 353992, 370848, 387704, 404560, 421416, 438272, 455128, 471984, 488840, 505696, 522552, 537616, 554472, 571328, 588184, 605040, 621896, 638752, 655608, 672464, 689320, 706176, 723032, 739888, 756744, 773600, 790456, 807312, 824168, 841024, 857880, 874736, 891592, 908448, 925304, 942160, 959016, 975872, 992728, 1009584, 1026440, 1043296, 1060152, 1075216, 1092072, 1108928, 1125784, 1142640, 1159496, 1176352, 1193208, 1210064, 1226920, 1243776, 1260632, 1277488, 1294344, 1311200, 1328056, 1344912, 1361768, 1378624, 1395480, 1412336, initialization complete nimno:8# /usr/etc/disk /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> label label information: print, write? print current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: Wren_I disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N-512 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi ncyls 2737 ntrack 21 nsect 50 rpm 300 sector_size 1024 front_porch 96 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at -1 #2 at 32 bootfile: sdmach host name: localhost root partition: a read/write partition: b part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 1422036 8192 1024 16 2048 0% yes space yes 4.3BSD b 1422036 1422091 8192 1024 16 2048 0% yes space yes 4.3BSD (It just works!) Don't forget the mount entries for both partitions. You'll need to do some further prep to make the things workable (e.g., adding recyclers to both volumes, setting permissions, etc.) This should get you over the hurdle. If it doesn't, let me know what you're having problems with. Good luck! Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: flash!jon@myxa.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Message-ID: <CKF5Bx.1Jy@dsinc!flash> Date: 30 Jan 94 01:26:20 GMT References: <CKEE6u.KA@unocal.com> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? In article <CKEE6u.KA@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes: > The InterNet/Usenet doubles in size in every year and will > continue to do so until about half of the computers in the US/world > are netted. (2.5 nodes estimated 1/1994, perhaps 6 more years of > doubling left.) > Among the newbies are those who fall for scams on either side of the fence. > It may get worse before better. Well, then. It's obvious that our only recourse is to kill the offenders. 1/2 :-) Or at least start an internet-wide pact that all people who post such drivel should be inundated with email from everyone who reads it. -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel Motorola et al -- Date: 30 Jan 94 04:00:46 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.759902446@uiuc.edu> References: <EPELB5OF@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com> <1994Jan29.204118.8010@news.media.mit.edu> Rob Silvers writes: >Maybe .Sun would be better .sparc >Maybe .Motorola would be better .m68k I'd stick with "Sun" and "Motorola" because they sound more clear to me. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: PCI driver information...sorry! Message-ID: <1994Jan28.065756.9221@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 06:57:56 GMT We've been deluged by requests for information on PCI bus drivers for NS. I just returned from the East Coast Developers Conference and my mailbox was full and I sincerely apologize for not getting back to everyone on this. Due to the amount of traffic we've gotten, we've set up a new account to handle the driver information requests and we'll try to keep everyone updated as quickly as possible if you'll drop us a line. To give you a quick update.... Yes....there is an NCR PCI-SCSI driver that will be shipping shortly Yes....there is an ATI PCI driver that will be shipping shortly No.....the NeXTstep sales driver is still not shipping Yes....there is a color laptop driver that will be shipping shortly Sorry..the NeXT developer support driver has ceased shipping For definitions of terms like "shortly", please send your requests to: drivers@talus.com We'll do our best to keep you updated as rapidly as humanly possible. For those who have asked to be on the NCR-SCSI beta list, please resend your request to the "drivers" address. Again, I'm sorry for this, but we just didn't expect this much mail. Steve Sarich Talus Imaging steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Her ewe go... Message-ID: <1994Jan30.041517.11626@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Sun, 30 Jan 94 04:15:17 GMT Ok. I am an Amiga 1200 user (10mb RAM, AGA chipset, 68020 CPU). This machine hs the best OS I've ever seen. (I've never "seen" NextStep.) I like the speed and the hardware was made from ground up to mtask (like the cube, I think). What I've read of the NextStep OS (and of the first NeXT in the "NeXT Bible" -- old book) tells me that I would prob. be rather pleaesd with this OS. I've some questions now -- ANY help would be appreciated. - Is the speed of Intel NeXT Step good on a 486DX/2 66?? This is the system I'd be getting I believe. - Will the latest (3.2?) NeXT Step Intel software run older NeXT-cube software? - Say you have a program -- for speed intensity, let's say a game. Like some texturemapped flight-sim or something. Say this program is run from a DOS prompt on a DOS machine w/ 486-66. Can a machine w/ NeXTStep run this game at the same speed (if it has same CPU) as the DOS machine? I mean, can you install DOS (as well) on your Intel machine (I suppose that's what I'm asking). Or will SoftPC be the only way to go? - Does NeXST Step have a CLI (command line)?? Is it Unix like? (perhaps it IS Unix -- I dunno). -- And finally, sans monitor -- what is a lower price I could find for a fairly-functionally-congifured Intel NeXT Step system w/ good video circuitry (localbus video?? Do you use VGA cards (24-bit) on NeXT Step Intel machines?) and ...decent... RAM and HD space?? bp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flash!jon@myxa.com Subject: Re: Intel Motorola et al -- Message-ID: <CKFH5r.Mz4@dsinc!flash> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? References: <jeffo.759902446@uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 05:41:50 GMT In article <jeffo.759902446@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > Rob Silvers writes: > > >Maybe .Sun would be better .sparc > >Maybe .Motorola would be better .m68k > > I'd stick with "Sun" and "Motorola" because they sound more clear to > me. The problem there is that Motorola covers m68k and PowerPC. If it didn't sound like traversing a linked list, I'd suggest comp.sys.next.hardware.next, since it's highly unlikely there will be any other 040 ports. Perhaps c.s.n.hardware.black? -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCI driver information...sorry! Date: 30 Jan 1994 07:43:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ifoef$fg3@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <1994Jan28.065756.9221@talus.com> In article <1994Jan28.065756.9221@talus.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: > No.....the NeXTstep sales driver is still not shipping Any estimate when it might start shipping ?-) > Sorry..the NeXT developer support driver has ceased shipping That *is* disappointing. But did it ever really ship in quantity :-) --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: fusiong@STD.Teradyne.COM (fusiong mail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Using a Sun tape drive on a NeXT Date: 30 Jan 1994 02:58:17 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401300902.AA00849@std.teradyne.com> I have a Sun QIC 150 tape drive that I'd like to connect to a NeXT. I understand there's a FAQ that tells exactly how to do it. The tapes I need to read were created with tar -cvbf 126 /dev/rst0. I've looked for the FAQ but can't find it. Does someone know how to do it (exactly) or can someone send the FAQ? Thanks John reply to: fusiong@std.teradyne.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: prod. info on net (e-mail instead of 800 sales #'s) Message-ID: <1994Jan30.091646.29381@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 09:16:46 GMT I'd much rather communicate with sales people from various PC system vendors by e-mail, than by phone.... Good for me because: I don't have to wait on hold ever, just ask question and get on with life until response comes. Gives me time to think of the right questions. Don't have to call during business hours, when I usually have more important things to do. *** VENDORS TAKE NOTE *** Good for vendor because: Sales people don't have to waste time quoting figures for lots of different configurations and options, but can instead just e-mail the ascii files that contain all the information. Never have to worry about sales people misquoting figures then. Furthermore, with the e-mail addresses for both sales and technical support (whether they be addresses for an individual or for a group account that gets answered by whoever gets to it) you can easily go back and forth to get all your relevant questions answered. So, do vendors do this? It seems some must, and also that someone else agrees with me about the utility of such an arrangement: Article: 1310 of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems From: joe@ziggy.larc.nasa.gov (Joe Clark) >From what I've seen >the best way to do business with mail order is to get the name, email >and fax number of a sales and a tech support person and do all your >business directly through those people electronically. Is there any sales info (pricing, configurations, etc.) available from vendors on-line without e-mailing a sales rep. (or waiting for someone else to post the results of their phone conversation--after all it isn't as if this information is something the vendors want to keep secret)? eCesys says often in comp.sys.next.hardware that you can e-mail them and they'll fax you a price sheet. Can they e-mail it (ascii or postscript)? How about anyone else? Next, are e-mail addresses of any sales forces public? How do you get an e-mail address of a sales person and a tech support person? Joe? Must we call the 800 sales number to start off the electronic process? I'm particularly interested in vendors that offer Nextstep solutions with fast graphics, e.g. Epson, eCesys, JCIS, Logisys/Lucky Goldstar, maybe Dell, others... but hopefully something a grad. student could afford. Just think, having the info on-line would allow us to talk about specifics of different systems in the newsgroups much more easily. *** VENDORS TAKE NOTE AGAIN *** To those vendors who really think they offer the best product & overall support for the money, back it up. Make information available directly on the net. We know you are already ON the net, and that the sales information, etc. is certainly in electronic form already. If only the same information that is in the ads in the standard magazines, but this is also your chance to provide more details. *** eCesys *** eCesys, back up your constant claims in comp.sys.next.hardware of having some of the best Nextstep deals with more than faxes. -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: NeXT Screenshot Message-ID: <1994Jan30.161629.2284@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Sun, 30 Jan 94 16:16:29 GMT I am very anxious to get a NeXT Step Intel setup. But, I'm going only on what I've read of the system -- I've never even seen it (!) -- does anyone think that they could take a "Screenshot" of a color (preferably 8-bit (256-color) rather than 24-bit -- but either is ok) NeXT Step "desktop"?? Also, I notice that .TIFF is the main format for ftp-base NeXT graphics -- but GIF or JPEG would be a better format for me (certainly would be smaller than a .TIFF, and easier for me to process) -- but either (of the 3) is ok. I would be VERY appreciative -- VERY much so if someone could do this for me. You could send e-mail to me when done, and I could give you my account password and you could ftp-it to me (or uuencode it, if that is workable for you). Anyway -- I'd REALLY like to see this. Thanks. bp
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel Motorola et al -- Date: 30 Jan 1994 16:31:58 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2igndu$5un@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <EPELB5OF@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com> In article <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com>, tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano) writes: |> |> There is clearly a practical benefit to be obtained from splitting the |> group into threads corresponding to hardware platforms, and that benefit |> will only increase with time as more hardware platforms run NS. |> |> I'd apply Occam's Razor, and suggest something like this: |> |> .Intel |> .HP |> .Sun |> .Motorola |> .DEC (if an alphaPC port should come to pass) |> .PowerPC ( " PowerPC " ) |> |> |> and would urge more careful use of the Subject line so that very |> specific information can be more readily found when it is needed. |> |> I appreciate the help I've gotten here and on the NeXT forum in |> CompuServe, and offer these suggestions as someone who is more likely to |> be looking for information here than providing it, since I'm new to |> NeXTSTEP. But I hope my ignorance may prove to be of some use to this |> discussion ;-) |> |> Tim |> I would suggest: .Next rather than .Motorola Just in case NeXT ever release NeXTStep for the mac...long shot hope, and also be cause Motorola make the PowerPC. just my thought john.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest From: bonomi@eecs.nwu.edu (Robert Bonomi) Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Message-ID: <CKGAHs.9s9@eecs.nwu.edu> Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu> <1994Jan29.225607.12678@lclark.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 16:15:28 GMT In article <1994Jan29.225607.12678@lclark.edu>, Tovarich Pizor <pizor@lclark.edu> wrote: > [snip] > [ *** quoting "someone" who he failed to identify: ] >>In addition, this >>post could easily be considered the electronic equivalent of a >>chain-letter which is illegal in the United States according to Federal >>law. > >It could and should be considered the equivelent, and thus morally illegal. As >I understand it though, they can neither be arrested nor can chrages be pressed >because there is not, as of yet, legislation forbidding electronic chain >letters; only chain letters sent through the USPS. So, even though the concept >is the same, it is technically legal -- inasmuch as it isn't technically >illegal, and thanks to innocent until proven guilty they stay innocent because >there is no specific law that you can prove they've broken. > >DISCLAIMER: As I stated, the above is based on my understanding only, and tho >I'm pretty sure I'm right I may be wrong. Anyone know any legal experts who >could answer this one once and for all? > Since you asked <grin>, the following was posted to Misc.legal.moderated, during the -last- spate of this : ======================== Begin Included Text ============================== From lkk@panix.com Thu Nov 25 11:32:38 CST 1993 Article: 47 of misc.legal.moderated Xref: news.eecs.nwu.edu misc.legal.moderated:47 Path: news.eecs.nwu.edu!psuvax1!news.ecn.bgu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!panix!not-for-mail From: lkk@panix.com (Larry Kolodney) Newsgroups: misc.legal.moderated Subject: forwarded post: ponzi schemes on the net Date: 25 Nov 1993 00:57:59 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 271 Approved: "lkk@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)" Message-ID: <2d1hh7$d1g@panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com Return-Path: <lkk> [Moderator's note: Again, I make an exception by posting this message which was mailed to me. In the future, I will only accept messages generated by news software -lkk]]] From: Bill Dunn <wdunn@access.digex.net> November 24, 1993 RE: Illegal use of the 'net DISCLAIMER: NOT PREPARED OR REVIEWED BY AN ATTORNEY Several questionable schemes, such as MAKE.MONEY.FAST, have recently made their way onto the 'net. A common approach is the pyramid (or Ponzi) scheme, such as a chain letter. In these schemes, typically, the originators and early participants are paid from the cash flow of those they recruit to participate in the scheme. The last ones recruited find there is no one left to recruit, or pay, and the cash flow stops. Ponzi made a millions on a $150 investment in the 6 months between Dec 1919 and May 1920 before his scheme broke down. It was simplicity itself: give him money, in 90 days he would give you your money back + 50%, plus 10% to the recruiter. In 1923 the Supreme Court determined that this was fraud (Cunningham v Brown 44 SCt 424) -- and since then such pyramid schemes have been known colloquially as Ponzi schemes. But these are not the only, or even the most common, types of fraud. Basically any type of scheme offering financial or other rewards (eg. green cards, residence visas, marriages, land, work-at-home, clean-up- your-credit, etc.) have the potential for fraud. As the representations of profitability and/or effort required become more and more inaccurate they cross the line into material misrepresentation -- and the scheme begins to look and smell like fraud. I've concluded that "use of the 'net" "to defraud" probably violates several United States Federal criminal statutes, including the "mail fraud" statute 18 USC 1341. In addition to these (and probably other) US Federal statutes there are probably US state laws, such as the Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act, and maybe foreign laws that are relevant as well. (As an aside, some of the US fraud laws were modeled on a 17th C English law, 29 Charles II 1676, An Act for the Prevention of Frauds and Perjuries -- which was apparently repealed by the Law Reform Act of 1954.) [Any non USers know the law in their country?] Participation, in the United States, in such "use of the 'net" could result in prosecution of all those involved in "furthering" the fraudulent scheme and in confiscation of certain of their assets. Depending on the scope and size of the scheme, widescale prosecution and/or confiscation seem highly unlikely, but I wanted to lay out my reasoning and research for others to think about and challenge. Terms: "to defraud" -- "The words 'to defraud' have the common understanding of wronging one in his or her property rights by dishonest methods or schemes, and usually signify the deprivation of something of value by trick, deceit, chicane, or over reaching." (62 AmJur2d POST OFFICE Section 140) There doesn't seem to be any specific legal definition of fraud but there seems to be a general agreement that fraud includes at least: a willful intent to deceive another so as to induce them to part with their property. "mail fraud" -- "Essentially, the offense of mail fraud consists of the use of the mails in executing, or attempting to execute, the scheme to defraud; it is not the scheme itself. . . . Persons charged with a mail fraud violation need not have sent anything through the mails themselves. It is only necessary that they cause the mails to be used." (Ibid., Sections 141, 144) "use of the 'net" -- means basically sending, receiving, transmitting any message in whatever form by radio or telephone, INCLUDING all intermediate routings. "furthering" -- Many people could be charged. For instance, all those who knowingly transmit the fraudulent scheme by reposting or mail or .... The mail and wire fraud statutes seem VERY general on this, and could conceivably be used to charge those acting as common carriers whose only involvement in the scheme is to forward the illegal scheme. While this poses the biggest threat to the 'net, it also seems, to me, to be the most far-fetched. [Anyone know what the the statutory exemption from prosecution is for common carriers and whether it is available to all who act as such, or only to a specific class of carriers or entities?] This is all standard stuff, available in most libraries, so as Scoop Nisker might have said - if you don't like these facts, go out and make some of your own! NEXT STEPS: Somebody, preferably an attorney able to balance these amateur-selected factoids against the "real" world of legal practice, could do the 'net a service by offering a cogent analysis of the application of these and other applicable laws to net use. Some questions -- 1. Who on the 'net bears responsibility for content (of mail, usenet postings, net services): originator only? originator and provider, originator, provider and all intermediaries? 2. How real are these legal risks? To whom? 3. What are the options for dealing with the offenders? Others have suggested, in rough order of activism: ignoring offenders, bozofilter/KILLFILE offenders, stuffing offenders mailboxes, flaming offenders, posting counter propaganda (the approach of this posting), notifying sys admins at offender site (at least one contrite student recently related his experience at getting his account lifted by his admin as a result of MAKE.MONEY.FAST), notifying offender's employer, notifying the local Postal Inspector, filing a complaint with X (X == police, state district attorney, US Attorney, consumer affairs office, ???). 4. What are the other risks: political, legislative, marketing, ? Given the climate of the times, there seems to be an unusual amount of plasticity even in something as amorphous as the 'net. This whole construct could go a lot of different ways -- more anarchy and experimentation, more regulation and standardization, both at once, ???. Given the behavior of the established guardians of the public weal in the Jackson Games, Bell South, and other such situations, it does not seem unreasonable that these same folks would react in similar ways to even more public displays of questionable behavior. The immediate reaction might be prosecutorial, but the longer-term reaction would likely be restrictive legislation, registration, licensing, etc. So, what do you think? Following are excerpts from the US Code relating to mail and wire fraud. **************************** * * * 18 United States Code * * * ********************************************************************* Section 1341 Frauds and swindles. Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail according to direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Section 1342 Fictitious name or address Whoever, for the purpose of conducting, promoting, or carrying on by means of the Postal Service, any scheme or device mentioned in section 1341 of the title or any other unlawful business, uses or assumes, or requests to be addressed by, any fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or address or name other than his own proper name, or takes or receives from any post office or authorized depository of mail matter, any letter, postal card, package, or other mail matter addressed to any such fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or address, or name other than his own proper name, shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Section 1343 Fraud by wire, radio, or television Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Section 1344 Bank fraud Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, a scheme or artifice-- (1) to defraud a financial institution; or (2) to obtain any of the moneys, funds, credits, assets, securities, or other property owned by, or under the custody or control of, a financial institution, by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises; shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both. Section 1345 Injunctions against fraud (a)(1) If a person is-- (A) violating or about to violate this chapter [18 USC Sections 1341 et seq.] or section 287, 371 (insofar as such violation involves a conspiracy to defraud the United States or any agency thereof), or 1001 of this title; or (B) committing or about to commit a banking law violation (as defined in section 3322(d) of this title), the Attorney General may commence a civil action in any Federal court to enjoin such violation. (2) If a person is alienating or disposing of property or intends to alienate or dispose of property, obtained as a result of a banking law violation (as defined in section 3322(d) of this title) or property which is traceable to such violation, the Attorney General may commence a civil action in any Federal court-- (A) to enjoin such alienation or disposition of property; or (B) for a restraining order to-- (i) prohibit any person from withdrawing, transferring, removing, dissipating, or disposing of any such property or property of equivalent value; and, (ii) appoint a temporary receiver to administer such restraining order. (3) A permanent or temporary injunction or restraining order shall be granted without bond. (b) The court shall proceed as soon as practicable to the hearing and determination of such an action, and may, at any time before final determination, enter such a restraining order or prohibition, or take such other action, as is warranted to prevent a continuing and substantial injury to the United States or to any person or class of persons for whose protection the action is brought. A proceeding under this section is governed by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, except that, if an indictment has been returned against the respondent, discovery is governed by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. Section 1346 Definition of "scheme or artifice to defraud" For the purposes of this chapter [18 USC Sections 1341 et. seq.], the term "scheme or artifice to defraud" includes a scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right of honest services. ********************************************************************* * * Re: prohibited mailings and mail fraud orders, see also--- * * 39 USC 3000 et seq., especially 3005 and 3007. * 39 CFR 111, 952 * Domestic Mail Manual, Section C (available at all post offices) * 28 Fed Proc L Ed POSTAL SERVICE Section 63:367 Mail Fraud * US Postal Service (202) 268-2000, or your friendly local Postal * Inspector ********************************************************************* -- William G. Dunn 76104.72@compuserve.com, wdunn@access.digex.net -- larry kolodney:(lkk@panix.com): &#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&^_)*&#%)*&^%#+&&#+!*&$+!?&%+!*&^_)*&#%) Coming to you from Brooklyn, NY, where the weak are killed and eaten.
From: cyeomans@ms.uky.edu (Charles Yeomans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Date: 30 Jan 1994 12:09:01 -0500 Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <2igpjd$5jd@s.ms.uky.edu> References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu> <2ididu$4of@shasti.xei.com> In article <2ididu$4of@shasti.xei.com>, Kenneth Jamieson <tron1@shasti.xei.com> wrote: >In article <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu>, >Joshua B. Colglazier <coljos@homer.bethel.edu> wrote: >> >>This post should be removed from most newsgroups, if not all. The >>Internet community is NOT a place for solicitations and should certainly >>not be considered a place for anyone to make money. In addition, this >>post could easily be considered the electronic equivalent of a >>chain-letter which is illegal in the United States according to Federal >>law. > > Ok - I don't like this "MAKE MONEY" stupidity any more than anyone else, >but I will make 2 points here. > > 1) The "Internet Community" damn sure is a place for people to make > money. They do it, and have been doing it all the time. > > 2) A "chain letter" to my knowledge is under federal law BECAUSE it > uses the mail system in the U.S.A. Thus, there is no legal > "electronic equivalent". Chain letters violate more laws than just those pertaining to the use of the US mail. Indeed, it is possible that because the phone network is used to transmit chain letters by e-mail, there are FCC statues being violated as well. Charles Yeomans
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Attack of the Killer ED Floppy!! Message-ID: <XCJLB2ZT@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2i9dja$alj@news.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 16:44:44 GMT dblakele@acpub.duke.edu wrote: > Of late, I've been having occasional system panics when accessing ED floppies > with NS filesystems which, on occasion, will result in the system killing > all processes, failing to umount the floppy and rebooting the system. As > soon as the system reboots (both the Cube and the NSTC), it tries to read > the floppy, panics and starts the whole cycle all over again. I can't run > a fsck on the floppy because I never get to the point of being able to do > it in the first place. Any thoughts? boot single-user or do a console login. Then you can fsck /dev/rfd0a. If you don't you don't have the root password, you can't do anything. ciao, stephan p.s. just in case you don't know a console login: you have to see the loginwindow (either because me has a password, or because you press the left mouse butten when the windowserver is restarted (that's the moment the cursor move to the upper left corner of the screen).) Now type console instead of the username. -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: brown@quorum.com (Robert E. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "boot block extends beyond front porch" Date: 30 Jan 1994 17:52:40 GMT Organization: Quorum Software Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <BROWN.94Jan30125240@grettir.quorum.com> References: <CKD1J6.AL8@nist.gov> <1994Jan29.124312.18383@icaen.uiowa.edu> In-reply-to: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu's message of Sat, 29 Jan 1994 12:43:12 GMT in response to a question from clark@bruce.nist.gov: Anyone see this sort of console log report before and have any idea how to deal with it (for initializing an external drive) ? The obvious things haven't worked for me. BuildDisk: Starting build at Fri Jan 28 12:40:25 1994... disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label boot block extends beyond front porch dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes: Unless I'm mistaken the 43400N is a 3.4G (unformatted) drive, right? Well, there's your problem. The NeXT can't handle a drive larger than 2G. 2^31-1 bytes, to be precise. Its a common Unix limitation for 32 bit systems, some vendors have increased it to 4G, some larger than that with special software that costs extra. Doug is mistaken here. The Next OS is quite capable of handling a 3.4 Gb drive. What it can't handle is any single partition larger than 2.0 Gb. The problems seen by clark@bruce.nist.gov are caused by bugs in Next utilities. The enclosed bug report, sent from Ronald Antony to Next, includes a work-around for the problem. bob ======================================== Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 22:10:12 -0400 From: rcfa (Ronald C.F. Antony) To: Joe_Keenan@NeXT.com Subject: log # 48743 Cc: rcfa Reply-To: rcfa@cubiculum.com Hi Joe, I finally got things working. The following log might help locate the bug in the various parts in the system. What follows is a log copied directly from the Terminal window. Everything written in this font is commentary added later: 1) I low level format to get the drive back into the factory default state. machnix# sdform /dev/rsd1a device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 2777 MBytes ***FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST*** This will take approximately 92 minutes. Do you wish to proceed? (Y/anything) Y Disk Format in progress... ***Format Complete*** 2) With the /etc/disktab file slightly renamed, I run /etc/disk to see what is the default behavior. It turns out that /etc/disk using /usr/etc/scsimodes screws up the label completely. e.g. look at the size of the front porch and at the rpm parameter. This is what I did not realize: after the disk is in that state /etc/disktab is ignored, therefore when I tried to make a disktab entry for two partitions before and format the drive with two partitions, it would ignore the information. If other customers have similar problems, advise them to run sdform first to get the drive back into its native state. machnix# disk /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> label label information: print, write? print no label on disk disk> init DESTROYS ALL EXISTING DISK DATA -- really initialize? yes enter host name: machnix enter disk label: machnix-2 writing disk label Boot block is "/usr/standalone/boot", ok? yes boot block extends beyond front porch disk> label label information: print, write? print current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: machnix-2 disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N-512 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi ncyls 2737 ntrack 21 nsect 50 rpm 300 sector_size 1024 front_porch 48 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at 32 #2 at -1 bootfile: sdmach host name: machnix root partition: a read/write partition: b part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 2844175 8192 1024 16 2048 0% yes space yes 4.3BSD disk> quit 3) This is what I consequently did... machnix# sdform /dev/rsd1a device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 2777 MBytes ***FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST*** This will take approximately 92 minutes. Do you wish to proceed? (Y/anything) Y Disk Format in progress... ***Format Complete*** 4) With the information gained from /usr/etc/scsimodes I created manually a /etc/disktab entry. It is shown below: machnix# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: SEAGATE ST43400N 512 bytes per sector 99 sectors per track 21 tracks per cylinder 2737 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 9 spare sectors per cylinder 21 alternate tracks per volume 5688446 usable sectors on volume machnix# mv /etc/disktab.p /etc/disktab machnix# tail -20 /etc/disktab # SCSI drives # # NOTE: The Builddisk application and /usr/etc/disk now are able to # automatically determine SCSI disk geometry and capacity for SCSI disks # that support the MODE SENSE command -- no disktab entry is required. # # Currently, these programs will build single and dual partition disks, so # disks requiring 3 or more partitions must still be specified in /etc/disktab. # # If an entry is specified in /etc/disktab it will be used in # preference to the default parameters chosen by /usr/etc/builddisk and # /usr/etc/disk. ST43400N|ST43400N-512|SEAGATE ST43400N-512|Elite-3 w/512 byte sectors:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#2737:nt#21:ns#50:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:hn=machnix:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#2097152:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#2097152:sb#746911:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD: 5) Now I write the disk label using the /etc/disktab file, and now the information is correct: machnix# disk -t ST43400N /dev/rsd1a disk name: ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> label label information: print, write? print no label on disk disk> label label information: print, write? write enter host name: machnix enter disk label: machnix-1 writing disk label disk> label label information: print, write? print current label information on disk: disk label version #3 disk label: machnix-1 disk name: ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi ncyls 2737 ntrack 21 nsect 50 rpm 5400 sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0 ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0 boot blocks: #1 at 32 #2 at 96 bootfile: sdmach host name: machnix root partition: a part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type a 0 2097152 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD b 2097152 746911 8192 1024 32 4096 10% yes time no 4.3BSD disk> quit 6) Now I create the file systems on the disk and write the boot block: machnix# newfs /dev/rsd1a Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 15620 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 748 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 2097152 sectors in 1998 cylinders of 21 tracks, 50 sectors 2147.5Mb in 63 cyl groups (32 c/g, 34.41Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 33672, 67328, 100984, 134640, 168296, 201952, 235608, 269264, 302920, 336576, 370232, 403888, 437544, 471200, 504856, 538512, 572168, 605824, 639480, 673136, 706792, 740448, 774104, 807760, 841416, 875072, 908728, 942384, 976040, 1009696, 1043352, 1075216, 1108872, 1142528, 1176184, 1209840, 1243496, 1277152, 1310808, 1344464, 1378120, 1411776, 1445432, 1479088, 1512744, 1546400, 1580056, 1613712, 1647368, 1681024, 1714680, 1748336, 1781992, 1815648, 1849304, 1882960, 1916616, 1950272, 1983928, 2017584, 2051240, 2084896, machnix# newfs /dev/rsd1b Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 15213 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 689 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1b: 746911 sectors in 712 cylinders of 21 tracks, 50 sectors 764.8Mb in 23 cyl groups (32 c/g, 34.41Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 33672, 67328, 100984, 134640, 168296, 201952, 235608, 269264, 302920, 336576, 370232, 403888, 437544, 471200, 504856, 538512, 572168, 605824, 639480, 673136, 706792, 740448, machnix# disk /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST43400N-512 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> boot Boot block is "/usr/standalone/boot", ok? yes Writing /usr/standalone/boot disk> quit 7) As it turns out, /etc/disk could have done the job, too: machnix# disk -t ST43400N -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: ST43400N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2097152 50 21 8192 1024 32 10 90 4096 t Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 15620 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 748 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 2097152 sectors in 1998 cylinders of 21 tracks, 50 sectors 2147.5Mb in 63 cyl groups (32 c/g, 34.41Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 33672, 67328, 100984, 134640, 168296, 201952, 235608, 269264, 302920, 336576, 370232, 403888, 437544, 471200, 504856, 538512, 572168, 605824, 639480, 673136, 706792, 740448, 774104, 807760, 841416, 875072, 908728, 942384, 976040, 1009696, 1043352, 1075216, 1108872, 1142528, 1176184, 1209840, 1243496, 1277152, 1310808, 1344464, 1378120, 1411776, 1445432, 1479088, 1512744, 1546400, 1580056, 1613712, 1647368, 1681024, 1714680, 1748336, 1781992, 1815648, 1849304, 1882960, 1916616, 1950272, 1983928, 2017584, 2051240, 2084896, creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1b /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1b /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1b 746911 50 21 8192 1024 32 10 90 4096 t Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 15213 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 689 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1b: 746911 sectors in 712 cylinders of 21 tracks, 50 sectors 764.8Mb in 23 cyl groups (32 c/g, 34.41Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 33672, 67328, 100984, 134640, 168296, 201952, 235608, 269264, 302920, 336576, 370232, 403888, 437544, 471200, 504856, 538512, 572168, 605824, 639480, 673136, 706792, 740448, initialization complete So it seems that there is at least a bug in /etc/disk in the way it treats information gained from /usr/etc/scsimodes. Maybe there are also bugs in Builddisk.app, since that application failed to do it's job when asked to create two partitions on the disk, even if both were well below 2.0GB. Of course it would also be nice if the NeXT OS could be developed such as to support partitions sizes up to 4.0GB (the address range of an unsigned int), but that is a minor problem. Again, thanks for your help. Should there be any related problem show up later, I'll let you know. If you have any further questions regarding specifics of what I did, let me know. Ronald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: btf64@cas.org (Bernard T. French) Subject: Summary: Suggestions for a 600MB-1.2GB Hard Disk Message-ID: <1994Jan30.180439.21363@chemabs.uucp> Sender: usenet@chemabs.uucp Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 18:04:39 GMT The most frequent suggestion was given first by Art, contact Larry at Peripheral Solutions. I didn't include all the messages echoing this suggestion. I also didn't include all the messages which said I should stay away from Toshiba. Thanks for all of the suggestions! I'm going with the number one choice and calling Larry..... -- Bernie +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | REWARD: Lost .sig, last seen in comp.sys.* or bionet.*, answers to | | the name btf64@cas.org | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ <---------------------------- SUMMARY ---------------------------------------> In comp.sys.next.hardware article <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> you wrote: > I'm looking for recommendations for an external hardisk in the 600MB-1.2GB > range for my Mono NeXTstation (25MHz). I'm looking for a device that cost > around $1000.00 or less. Give Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions a call (800-ALL-DISK) and ask him for his latest recommendations. He has a NeXT test bench and offers very competitive prices and good service. I bought a DEC drive from him about 6 months ago in a nice NeXT-black external enclosure and it was purely plug-and-play. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just purchased the Micropolis 2217/15. It's a 3.5 inch, 5400 RPM, 10ms, 1.7 gig drive (formatted). It cost $1100 from SAG Electronics. It is tiny, VERY quiet, and seems quite fast. I am very pleased with it. - db --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I've just purchased a Micropolis 2117 (? not sure of the exact model #), which formats to 1050MB, 10ms access time, with 5 year warranty, for a grand total of $1019.50 (including drive, case, cable, shipping, the whole works.) This drive is also available in an "a/v" version that does TCAL (thermal recalibration) very well, which is crucial for people doing real-time video/audio reproduction. It got an honorable mention from Byte's September '93 disk drive comparison. Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | 1. You can't fly. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 2. Cars are always real. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. --------------------------------------------+ 4. Fire burns. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- hi, I haven't purchased one myself yet, but I have been pouring over Computer Shopper looking for "DEALS". Here's my top picks. Micropolis 1050 mb model mc2210s aroun $839 $.79/MB 5 year warranty SCSI-II Insight (1 year return to insight, + 4 to manufacter) 10ms 3.5inch 800 998 8031 Micropolis 1750 mb model 2217S $1099 $.62/MB (otherwise same as above) Caveats 1) I don't know if these are formatted capacity 2) I dont know if you can reformat these to 1024bytes/block 3) These are bare drives. I have seen some adds for drives around .9-1 Gig for $649, but only 6 month warranty from what appears to be low end vendor If you dig up anything interesting, would you share it with me? tnx, -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Late addition miropolis 2210 $ 699 1050mb 2217 999 1700mb UMB 800 722 7703. I have not spoken to this last vendor, so I dont know what warranties/return policies exist on these. Jerry -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I've just purchased a Micropolis 2117 (? not sure of the exact model #), which formats to 1050MB, 10ms access time, with 5 year warranty, for a grand total of $1019.50 (including drive, case, cable, shipping, the whole works.) This drive is also available in an "a/v" version that does TCAL (thermal recalibration) very well, which is crucial for people doing real-time video/audio reproduction. It got an honorable mention from Byte's September '93 disk drive comparison. Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | 1. You can't fly. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 2. Cars are always real. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. --------------------------------------------+ 4. Fire burns. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I recently got a Toshiba MK537FB, 1.06G formatted, 12ms avg access, 3.5" form factor, installed internaly with no problems into my NeXTStation Color from: K&L Computers 3810 Brittan Glade Trail Lithonia, GA 30058 404-922-6772 voice 404-929-1433 fax Keith R. Watson Systems Administrator S.C./Auxiliary Enterprises Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332-0453 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!kw3 Internet: keith.watson@stucen.gatech.edu Phone: 404-894-2523 GIST: 222-2523 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I recently got a Toshiba MK537FB, 1.06G formatted, 12ms avg access, 3.5" form factor, installed internaly with no problems into my NeXTStation Color from: K&L Computers 3810 Brittan Glade Trail Lithonia, GA 30058 404-922-6772 voice 404-929-1433 fax P.S. I realized right after I sent the first message that you were looking for an external drive. I have found that externals cost from $60 to $100 more than internals. Ask Kevin at K&L if it comes in an external version or if he can get a case. There are several companies that sell just the case and power supply. Let me know if you need info on them. Keith R. Watson Systems Administrator S.C./Auxiliary Enterprises Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332-0453 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!kw3 Internet: keith.watson@stucen.gatech.edu Phone: 404-894-2523 GIST: 222-2523 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In article <IhFiMLq00iV3A9d11X@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. > P.S. used to have a toll-free number, so you might try 800-ALL-DISK first to see whether it still works (unless you own stock in your local long-distance company :-) > (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) Me, neither. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- You probably have gotten a lot of responses already, but I'll throw my 2 cents in. I recently bought a Fujitsu 1.2 Gbyte from MegaHaus. Fujitsu has a five year warranty (I wouldn't buy one that didn't), but MegaHaus offers a one year replacement in addition. There are other equally priced companies, but I have had luck with them. (The real test was when I had to return something once under their 30 day no questions asked return policy.) ANyways, I paid $895, but prices are coming down daily. Stay away from the Toshiba for sure. They're trash. People like the Maxtors, Fujitsus and Seagates. The new Decs are supposed to be screamers. These are all 3.5 inch drives. Good Luck! -Patrick Lampani ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sorry to be of "negative" help, but I can perhaps steer you clear of a lot of headaches and frustration: avoid Toshiba at all costs. They have very low priced drives, but you are getting what you pay for. I could go on for pages about how bad their (three!) broken hard drives are, how bad their service is (7 weeks!) and how poor their knowledge of their own products is. Don't go Toshiba. Ever. Good luck, however, with your search! -- John Todd | Need Job: Can sell NeXTs/cars, fix same| NRA & Pro-Choice 430 Dundee Drive | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo Blue Bell PA 19422| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused 215/646-5883 | USGS coord: 40d08m02s Lat 75d15m28s Lon | jtod@digex.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Subject: Austin Computer Systems 66 Mhz laptop + NSFIP [long] Message-ID: <CKFI65.Cv2@nimno.wpa.com> Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley) Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 06:03:40 GMT This may be of interest to anyone who is considering daring to buy a laptop that is not NeXT-certified or listed. Maybe you can learn from my mistakes! :-) I recently bought an Austin Computer Systems 486 laptop with the following configuration: 486 66MHz 32 MB ram 340 MB Toshiba 2.5" hard disk TFT Active matrix (color) with "local bus" video (ha!) Docking station with SMC ethernet card (combo) I also bought an Adaptec 1542CF that I intended to install in the docking station in order to intall NS. Due to my lack of knowledge about the implications of the design of the docking station, the requirements of the Adaptec card, and the way NSFIP works in terms of SCSI support, I quickly found myself dug into a hole from which there was no escape! :-) Namely, that all docking stations are not created equal. The bottom line is that because the 1542CF requires bus mastering and the Austin docking station did not supply it, it was physically impossible to install NS on the laptop. I had heard stories of others who had "transplanted" the laptop's disk drive into a desktop machine and done the installation there. However, when I compared the two setups, they used different connectors for data and power and there seemed to be no way to get the job done. I was ready to consign the machine to life under Windows. Then Austin's tech support said that I could just get an adaptor that would convert the setup for the 3.5" drive so that it would physically match the requirements for the 2.5" drive. Not being up-to-date on PC hardware, I wasn't aware of this possibility. I went to all of the major computer store chains, asking to buy this adaptor. I knew I was in trouble when the parts manager at the local CompUSA told me, with great authority, that there "was no such thing." I then gave up on retail computer stores and drove down to the dusty and dirty old electronics store where I bought my first computer (an 8K Commodore PET) back in 1978. Through (what I thought was) an incredible coincidence, the very guy who had sold me the machine years ago waited on me and took about 30 seconds to produce a "made in Taiwan" box that contained exactly what I needed! I drove home and opened up my Intel GX and took out the IDE drive. Murphy wasn't through with me yet (even though this quest had been going on for three weeks.) It turned out that the wiring of the IDE cables in the Intel was (naturally) 180 degreees reversed from the requirements of the adaptor. To further complicate things, the cable was so short that I could barely give it the required half-twist in order to orient it correctly and still have the adaptor in the proper position for the power supply. After a few false starts, it finally came together. Before I could install NS on a different drive (or even attempt to boot, of course) it was necessary to run the EISA configuration utility to disable the second drive (the existing drive was a partitioned 1 GB drive) and change the parameters for drive 1 to match the Toshiba drive from the laptop. Once this was complete and the Adaptec 1542CF was installed, I was able to boot up and begin installation. Believe me, after all the disappointments along the way, I was doing some whooping and hollering when I saw the boot process make it past the critical stage and actually begin loading! :-) It was a little strange to see NS in 640 x 480 displayed on an NEC 6FG screen. Kind of ..... large. :-) The 2.5" drive was able to run NS while inside the Intel, so it was time to do the heart transplant and move it back into the laptop. After reassembling the mounting rails (they wouldn't allow the right clearance in the Intel so I had to take them apart) I screwed the drive back into the Austin laptop and crossed my fingers. To my amazement, it booted right up. The boot graphics looked much better on the smaller screen. I breathed a big sigh of relief when the message popped up that said "network does not recognize computer - enter name:" I named it "jake" in honor of my favorite John Wayne movie character (who may have lived somewhere near Austin, I suppose) Jacob "Big Jake" McCandles. The next thing I knew, I was logged in to my network account and staring at my usual array of files - just at much lower resolution. I never realized how hard it could be to run some apps because of the large amount of real estate they require that can't be shrunk. This will take some getting used to. Aside from the screen resolution, the only thing that makes it somewhat difficult to use NS is the tiny little trackball. It is small as laptop trackballs go, and it also is mounted in such a way that it jumps around in the housing during vigorous use. This causes problems soemtimes. I have a spare microsoft "in port" mouse from my AT that I would like to use, but I'm not sure how I'm going to get it connected or even what driver to use. Maybe I'll figure that out this week. I hope that jake will help me accomplish the objectives I had in buying it. If so, the high cost will be worth it. If not, it will turn out to be a pretty expensive Windows platform. John Bartley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST (Stop Replying!) Message-ID: <CKGMM9.Et4@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <2igpjd$5jd@s.ms.uky.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 20:29:53 GMT This topic belongs somewhere else!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Help! Need Buslogic 747 tech notes Message-ID: <westesCKGLJM.Eqp@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 20:14:10 GMT I just replaced my Adaptec 1542c with a Buslogic 747 EISA card. I disabled both synch negotiation and EISA burst modes, but no matter what I do NS 3.2 Intel starts up, has problems initializing sc0, then issues a kernel panic when it later tries to mount root. ftp.next.com and next.com are not responding to ftp or ping right now, so could some kind soul send me the tech notes from NeXTANSWERs on configuring the Buslogic 747? Please send as ASCII, not NeXTMAIL. -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.invest From: foo@netcom.com (Mark Hall) Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Message-ID: <fooCKGnHM.29J@netcom.com> Followup-To: misc.misc Summary: delivery method is what counts Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <134601@hydra.gatech.EDU> <CKCz57.8q6@news.cis.umn.edu> <1994Jan29.225607.12678@lclark.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 20:56:10 GMT In article <1994Jan29.225607.12678@lclark.edu> pizor@lclark.edu (Tovarich Pizor) writes: )>This post should be removed from most newsgroups, if not all. ) )>In addition, this )>post could easily be considered the electronic equivalent of a )>chain-letter which is illegal in the United States according to Federal )>law. ) )It could and should be considered the equivelent, and thus morally illegal. As )I understand it though, they can neither be arrested nor can chrages be pressed )because there is not, as of yet, legislation forbidding electronic chain )letters; only chain letters sent through the USPS. Wrong. If you look in the US Postal regulations, you will not find the words 'chain letter'. You can find a section under fraud. It is illegal to use the US Mail to deliver money through fraudulent schemes. It is the delivery of money that matters, not the method of presenting the scam. It does not matter if I walk up to you on the street, explain the pyramid scheme verbally, and get you to mail money you to someone on the list. Chain letters are fraud because the exponential growth required to make the claims true. Usually if you calculate how many people would need to be involved, it is more than the world population. that explains why some scams have you FedEx the money. They can't be convicted under the US Postal regulations. They can still get jailed for the fraud, but not for the delivery method. - mark PS. followups to misc.misc, since I don't know of a better newsgroup.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 16:22:27 EST From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Message-ID: <94030.162227HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3.5" Opticals for Black Hardware... Hi: My 256Mb OD has developed a cough (it automagically coughs any disk right back out) so I'm in the market for a 3.5" OD to replace it (one of the 128 Mb ones). Could anyone using one of these answer the following questions: (1) model, vendor (2) how hard to set up? (3) works under NS 3.0? 3.1? (4) Mac formatted disks work? I will summarize and post. Thanks in advance Rob Harrap Queen's Geology Harrap@geol.queensu.ca
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Her ewe go... Date: 30 Jan 1994 21:50:07 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2iha2f$o65@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Jan30.041517.11626@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> In article <1994Jan30.041517.11626@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: > - Will the latest (3.2?) NeXT Step Intel software run older > NeXT-cube software? No. Only the more recent NextStep software -- that which was sold in Multiple Architecture Binary (MAB) format -- will run on both Intel and Motorolla processors. Applications such as Framemaker, Adobe Illustrator and Lotus Improv, which were sold only in NeXT Motorolla binaries, will not run under NextStep Intel. Even for those applications which have been ported to NextStep Intel such as Mathematica, you have to purchase a newer MAB version in order to run it on Intel processors. > - Does NeXST Step have a CLI (command line)?? Is it Unix like? > (perhaps it IS Unix -- I dunno). It is Unix, underneath. You can bring up a command line window using Terminal.app and do all the Unix stuff you could on any other Unix box. The beauty of NextStep, however, it that you can largely ignore much of the Unix muck if you want to. NextStep has a very friendly, push-and-click user interface. Even yucky Unix networking is make push and click easy. The Apple cut copy paste keys work just like on a Mac, etc. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: reqd.: faster ethernet card Date: 30 Jan 1994 16:15:42 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9401302216.AA28454@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Hi, I have an Intel EtherExpress 16 on an ISA machine (Logisys, :-( ). IMHO it appears to be very slow... :-( (1) As far as I'm aware it's set up correctly -- can anybody tell me if there is any way to set it up I might not know about that gives better response? (2) Does anybody know of a faster card? Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flash!jon@myxa.com Subject: NLP problem Message-ID: <CKGvwG.Fn3@dsinc!flash> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 23:57:52 GMT I've got one of the NeXT Laser printers from Spherical, and it's giving me trouble. Manual feed stopped working all of a sudden. The printer reports that there is paper jammed in the printer, when it hasn't even pulled any paper in. If I do get it to pull the paper in, it gets stuck. The paper gets jammed right after the hinged metal "flap", and backs up, pushing the flap up. This is with brand new paper, normal weight. Cartridge feed works fine. Any ideas? Suggestions?? -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 30 Jan 1994 22:27:59 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2ihtrv$ihb@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. Comp.Sys.Next.Software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. Comp.Lang.Objective-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. 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If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) Subject: NextDimension questions Message-ID: <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 04:05:22 GMT 1. I recall having heard that certain older NeXT cubes will not support the NeXTDimension --- power supply problems. Is this indeed the case? If it is, how do I tell whether my machine is affected? If my machine is affected, can I correct the problem? How? 2. What are the specifications on NeXTDimension memory? Is it resonably standard, or is it a hard to find oddball configuration? --- Bill. -- William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science --- snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be. ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) Subject: DSP (black hardware) question. Message-ID: <1994Jan31.040634.14189@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 04:06:34 GMT As I recall, NeXTs have variable amounts of DSP memory? How can I tell how much I have? What is the maximum amount of DSP memory? How does one get more? --- Bill. -- William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science --- snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be. ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: NeXT Info Message-ID: <1994Jan31.041459.26878@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 04:14:59 GMT Does NeXTStep Intel use 12-bit and 24-bit video?? I've been told these are the 2 color modes. Can't NS use standard VGA cards? If so, isn't 12-bit odd?? 4096 onscreen colors...from what-size palette, 24-bit I assume, right? (I am planning to get a NeXTStep system soon, and no-- I don't plan on anything near "Standard VGA.") Also -- where can I find some good prices on NeXT Step Intel machines (for good systems leaning towards a good base for NeXT Step system)?? Computer Shopper mag?? How do you know shich Pc-clones are good for use w/ NeXT Step?? VLB?? EISA?? And what are some of the lower prices (16mb machine) for 486/66 machines (I can borow a CDrom drive for installation at first)?? Thanks alot ahead of time. bp PS -- And thanks to all for the JPEG's of the NeXT Step workspace (I've gotten 3 sofar) -- MUCH appreciated. Anyone else, PLEASE -- I'd love to recieve more UUencoded JPEG images of the workspace. Thanks.
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: micropolis#1936 scsi 3.6G problems Date: 31 Jan 94 06:28:04 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <sandrac.759997684@unixg.ubc.ca> Summary: can't seem to get next to inialize I have a Micropolis 3.6 gig scsi hard drive model#1936 SN# 3105969050 LYX034-01-4 HDA#13LB18364... The problem is that when I get to the build disk question, next only views this disk as a swap disk and I can not click partion or build disk. Quesion 1: Is someone else using the same drive and could you help me ? Question 2: Does anyone have a solution to this problem of getting Next 3.2 black to recognize the drive and partion/format... Any help would gladly help my road mapped eyes... Everything I have read to date does not seem to cover this problem... plus when I take off the terminator resistors and the drive is external and last one on the chain... I do not get any parity erros... but when the termination is done I get a screen of parity errors... thanks sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca ***no next mail please *** :write :quit : :write :quit :post
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "James "Mike" Conley" <conley@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: NS/I 3.2, ProAudio Spectrum 16, and Adaptec Message-ID: <1994Jan29.190245.9455@news.cs.indiana.edu> Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University References: <PFP.94Jan26085546@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> <1994Jan27.152448.3162@radical2.radical.com> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 19:02:41 -0500 I don't know if this is a problem for you, but I also have the same problem. In addition, I had trouble installing the PAS16 using the software that came with the board. It turns out that there is a bus timing problem with Symphony motherboards that causes short DMA cycles-- there is a patch that works just great for me in the DOS/Windows world (available on their BBS) but as of yet, I don't have a solution for NeXTSTEP. The fix basically pokes the DMA controller to slow it down a little as far as I can tell. This may not be at all related to your problem since you stated that your board works fine, however, my board worked fine as long as I used it in SB emulation mode, it only had problem in native mode. Right now I have it set to IRQ12/DMA7 which doesn't work with NeXTSTEP, but seems to work fine with DOS/Windows. --Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: SCSI Disk Compatibility for NeXT Computers Message-ID: <S8JLBQ5D@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1994Jan27.081308.1284@cs.sfu.ca> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 11:15:10 GMT Dan Fass (fass@cs.sfu.ca) wrote: > Brad Sime of Bell Atlantic NeXT Hardware Support was kind enought to send > me the following information about SCSI Disk Compatibility for NeXT > Computers. He also agreed to letting the information be posted on this > newsgroup. Perhaps parts of it could be added to the hardware FAQ. > - Dan Fass > 1) "Inquiry" and "Read Capacity" commands > 2) The drive must conform to the ANSI SCSI Rev. 17B or greater > 3) 10 (ten) byte read and write command blocks I think it would be more helpful, to explain, what to look for in a hardware reference manual: 1) Inquiry, Read Capacity 2) 10 byte read/write commands 3) no synchronous mode negotiation 4) Save DataPointer before each disconnect 5) exactly one drive providing termination power ... I'd also include some general details like Which drive should be terminated, Where should termination power be enabled, and the like Typically you only have to look for 3) and 4). The specification Rev ??b doesn't help a user too much. > In order to work with the file system, the drive's sector size must be > 512 or 1024 bytes. That's not true. I've seen a 256 bytes drive work. Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: info@barkley.absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP (black hardware) question. Date: 31 Jan 1994 09:46:19 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2iik1b$p9v@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Jan31.040634.14189@cs.cornell.edu> In article <1994Jan31.040634.14189@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) writes: > As I recall, NeXTs have variable amounts of DSP memory? How can > I tell how much I have? What is the maximum amount of DSP memory? > How does one get more? > --- Bill. Bill and others: I believe you can upgrade via SIMM to 96k...Jim Moosmann (moose@nextsrv1.andi.org) had a few kits from his large supply of Cubes. Shoot him some NeXTmail -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ****A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital, IBM and Compaq****
From: info@barkley.absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextDimension questions Date: 31 Jan 1994 09:47:58 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2iik4e$pa0@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> In article <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) writes: > 1. I recall having heard that certain older NeXT cubes will not > support the NeXTDimension --- power supply problems. Is this > indeed the case? If it is, how do I tell whether my machine is affected? > If my machine is affected, can I correct the problem? How? > I would think only the 68030 Cubes would have difficulty in supply the ND Board with power...corrections anyone? > 2. What are the specifications on NeXTDimension memory? Is it > resonably standard, or is it a hard to find oddball configuration? > Standard 72-pin SIMMS -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ****A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital, IBM and Compaq****
From: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Stefan Wolfrum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does NeXT read this group? Date: 31 Jan 1994 12:52:06 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science III, University of Bonn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2iiutm$c6n@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Hi, I wonder if anyone from NeXT reads this Newsgroup.?! Some time ago I asked about the announced Diamond VIPER (Weitek Power 9000) driver for NeXTstep 3.2/Intel. It was announced in the Hardware compatibility guide to be available in Q1'94 but there were no specifications regarding resolutions and color depth given. Has anyone any idea? Greetings, Stefan. --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Wolfrum Department of Computer Science, Graphics Group Servatiusstrasse 27 University of Bonn, Germany D-53175 BONN eMail: wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de Stefan_Wolfrum@bn.maus.de GERMANY voice: (home) +49 (0)228 319416 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wisem@statnextm.lakes.trenton.sc.us (Morgan D. Wise) Message-ID: <9401300224.AA00878@statnextm> Subject: Q: Printer, DMA underrun Date: Sat, 29 Jan 94 21:24:09 -0500 id AA24035; Mon, 31 Jan 94 05:30:51 -0800 by galois.NSCF.Org (5.67/NSCF/08-18-92) id AA07127; Sun, 30 Jan 94 03:16:50 -0500 id m0pQOGQ-0008MMC; Sat, 29 Jan 94 22:35 GMT id AA00878; Sat, 29 Jan 94 21:24:09 -0500 Hello, Thanks to Samuel Goldberger, I am now the proud owner of a NeXT Laser Printer. Unfortunately, I can't print anything on it. Every print job produces two blank pages, one page stuck in the printer and the following in the console window. np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page np0: spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun retries exhausted Jan 28 22:35:24 statnextm Server:Local_Printer[240]: Error printing page: I/O error Now I distinctly recall that this kind of problem was in a Technical Report from NeXT a couple of years ago regarding early NeXTstation Color computers. The problem was supposed to be a transistor on the motherboard and required a motherboard swap at NeXT's expense. When I heard about it, I did not have a NLP so I borrowed one from a friend and sure enough it did not work and gave the above error messages. I promptly looked into getting it fixed. At the time, I was a student at BYU. I had gotten the computer from the campus bookstore and so the responsibility for the repair fell on the campus computer maintainence group. So, I boxed up my whole system and took it to them, minus the printer because it wasn't mine and wasn't the problem. They, eventually, hooked the thing up and reportedly printed over 100 pages without a hitch. When I got it back, I wrote the whole thing off because I figured I would never be able to afford a NLP. OOPS! What do I do now? NeXT is out of the hardware business almost a year now. Do I have a case with Bell Atlantic that this is still a warranty repair? If BA does charge me anything, shouldn't BYU be liable because they told me the problem was either fixed or non-repeatable? Worst of all, how long do I have to loose my computer this time? Thanks for any advice, --- Morgan D. Wise wisem@statnextm.lakes.trenton.sc.us (NeXTmail) Applied Statistics Group mdwise@srs.gov (Business) Westinghouse Savannah River Co.
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Attack of the Killer ED Floppy!! Date: 31 Jan 1994 15:53:12 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ij9h8$t28@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2i9dja$alj@news.duke.edu> <XCJLB2ZT@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In article <XCJLB2ZT@gwdu03.gwdg.de>, trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: |> dblakele@acpub.duke.edu wrote: |> > Of late, I've been having occasional system panics when accessing ED floppies |> > with NS filesystems which, on occasion, will result in the system killing |> > all processes, failing to umount the floppy and rebooting the system. As |> > soon as the system reboots (both the Cube and the NSTC), it tries to read |> > the floppy, panics and starts the whole cycle all over again. I can't run |> > a fsck on the floppy because I never get to the point of being able to do |> > it in the first place. Any thoughts? |> |> boot single-user or do a console login. Then you can fsck /dev/rfd0a. |> If you don't you don't have the root password, you can't do anything. |> |> ciao, stephan |> |> p.s. just in case you don't know a console login: you have to see the |> loginwindow (either because me has a password, or because you press |> the left mouse butten when the windowserver is restarted (that's the |> moment the cursor move to the upper left corner of the screen).) |> Now type console instead of the username. |> |> -- |> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de I had this happen when I was trying to format a DOS Floppy Disk under 3.2. Another thing that might work is to execute fsck before loading the floppy, just as you would do to read a tar disk. I haven't tried this but it mights work. Just my thoughts on the subject. john
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kelman@niehs.nih.gov Subject: Re: NeXT Info Message-ID: <kelman.30.0@niehs.nih.gov> Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health References: <1994Jan31.041459.26878@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 16:04:07 GMT In article <1994Jan31.041459.26878@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: > Does NeXTStep Intel use 12-bit and 24-bit video?? I've been told >these are the 2 color modes. Can't NS use standard VGA cards? If so, >isn't 12-bit odd?? 4096 onscreen colors...from what-size palette, 24-bit >I assume, right? (I am planning to get a NeXTStep system soon, and no-- >I don't plan on anything near "Standard VGA.") The 12-bit mode is generally termed 16-bit, 12 bits for 4096 colors and 4 bits for the alpha channel of Display PostScript. There is no palette. Similarly, 24-bit is referred to as 32-bit, 24 bit color and 8 bits for the alpha channel. David
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is it OK to remove internal fan of a CUBE and use an external one? Date: 31 Jan 1994 17:21:06 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2ijem2$5bi@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu I'm thinking about removing the noisy and ineffective internal fan of my CUBE and just use a regular (powerful) fan external fan permanently directed at the CUBE? Is this OK? Any suggestions? Where should the fan blow? Front? Back? Sides? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Next printer jamming Message-ID: <1994Jan29.173457.1038@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <CK013G.Hpp@news2.cis.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 17:34:57 GMT In article <CK013G.Hpp@news2.cis.umn.edu> scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) writes: > In article <2hmao2INNjqb@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, > Allen Y. Tien <allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu> wrote: > >Does anyone know how to fix a NeXT printer that won't feed paper in > > more than about 1/3 of the sheet before jamming? This just started > > happening a > > We just had a printer cured of this problem...the roller that first > grabs the sheet expects to spin 1 revolution to get the sheet into the > set of rollers just before the corona discharge wires. Ours was > worn smooth. The repairman replaced that first roller (about 1.5 > inch diameter, surface includes some flat indentations) with the > similar roller used in Apple LW-II-NTX and it now works great. > The roller costs about $25 and our service call added about $50... > looked like it shouldn't be too hard to do it yourself if you're > inclined. > There is a much cheaper first try: The namely roller is in deed too smooth, but this also comes from dusting with paper fibers. Use cleaning gasoline (no fuel gas, the additives are poisonous) or isopropyl alcohol and a firm cloth and rubb the roller firmly 'til it gets back its pitch black color. Normally this suffices to restore enough grip! Next step of escalation is a bit of abrasive paper before the cloth and gas. This helps extending the life of the roller and might spare the money (at least for the casual user). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Why 51/4 diskdrive not supported ? Message-ID: <1994Jan29.174642.1100@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <boonlow.759088748@sfu.ca> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 1994 17:46:42 GMT In article <boonlow.759088748@sfu.ca> boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) writes: > Hey all, > Just got for my NS3.2 FIP few days ago. > Inside the manual, it stated that NS only support1 3.5 diskdrive and if > one has any 5.25 disk drive, it has to be disabled in the Bios. > > Seems strange that NS never expected 5.25 drive to be used by other OS > in a Intel-based machines and expect it's users to turn off support > for 5.25 while running NS and turn it on while running other OS ( DOS, > OS/2 ) > > Is there a reasonable explanation for it and is there a way to go > around to not turning off 5.25 support and still boot up NS ? > > Or, am I mistaken and there's already support for 5.25 already ? > Black hardware never had 5 1/4' floppies (and who would want them!?) So white hardware (the surrogate, remember! ;-) never needed them. I would expect NS to be calm about a 5 1/4' drive if no disk is present and noone would try to access it (though I'm not sure). But having support for the old floppies would be just a waste of scarce system programmers time. Who would want to support a incompatible (to anything else that runs NS!) removavable media with just over 1 Meg of capacity? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Re: PCI bus drives Message-ID: <1994Jan31.173935.24803@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <2hp5sc$1l6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> <CK4w8s.BpJ@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> <2i434t$605@news.bu.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:39:35 GMT I inquired into the need for a VESA/VLB system for NeXT Step OS. I was told that PCI is a better way to go. Is PCI and elternative to VESA? Is it the best way to get video speed?? What is PCI? bp PS -- Is it poss. to get "outline font" if not PostScript output (or output of any kind) on a 24-pin dot-matrix printer attatched to a NeXSTStep PC?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dhf@il.us.swissbank.com (Dennis_Freidel) Subject: keyboard problem installing 3.2 beyond the NextAswers 1480 soln. Message-ID: <1994Jan31.170639.6895@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: news@il.us.swissbank.com Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 17:06:39 GMT NS/Intel 3.1 works fine on my Goldstar 486/33 machine (generic machine) with a MS Serial Mouse. But problems installing 3.2.... Any help you might have would be appreciated... In trying to install 3.2, the installation takes me past the point where I type 1 for making it a clean install (the keyboard works at this point), At the next question -- the keyboard is dead. I then tried the recommendation in NextAnswers 1480 and set the Boot drivers to "Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B DPT2012 IDE Floppy" It did not help. Keyboard works for the first question, and is then dead as before. My third try was to use the Upgrade.app on the CD. I did this, and rebooted. Still problems! -- the keyboard seemed dead, but it would pump out lots of wwwwwww... onto the login panel. I also tried to change the Boot Drivers in this configuration to use the SerialMouse and forget the PS2Mouse. Still no success. I reinstalled 3.1 with no problems. Any ideas of where to look next would be helpful (do I have a marginal keyboard, other hardware problems, problem with something else?) Full system: 486/33 1 gig SCSI drive, DOS partitions and 500MB Next partition Adaptec1542B NEC 84 cdrom drive MS SerialMouse generic keyboard. Thanks in advance! Dennis Freidel dhf@il.us.swissbank.com
From: schaefer@denali.gsfc.nasa.gov (Martha W. Schaefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: external floppy drive Date: 31 Jan 1994 18:11:58 GMT Organization: NASA/GSFC Laboratory for Terrestrial Physics Sender: schaefer@denali (Martha W. Schaefer) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ijhle$mit@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone out there know of a reliable place to send a 2.8M floppy drive to be fixed? I have a PCI drive, and their service was so abominable while the drive was under warranty that I am reluctant to send it back again. Alternatively, is there any other place that makes external floppy drives compatable with a black NeXT? I'd even settle for one that only did 1.4M. Email replies preferred. Thanks much. -Martha Schaefer schaefer@denali.gsfc.nasa.gov
From: ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dot matrix printer drivers Date: 31 Jan 1994 18:36:10 GMT Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <2ijj2q$cg7@network.ucsd.edu> References: <2ibgqf$c4j@network.ucsd.edu> <1994Jan29.154251.288@dart.de> In article <1994Jan29.154251.288@dart.de> federico@heinz.in-berlin.de (Federico Heinz) writes: >In article <2ibgqf$c4j@network.ucsd.edu> ridgway@inls3.tmc.edu (Doug Ridgway) >writes: >>That is all this, and the other dot matrix printers are realy capable >>of. The additional effort to use their 360dpi capability is not worth I didn't write that, I was the original poser of the question. Mark G. Salyzyn wrote it. Thanks for the reply though. doug.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: renata@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Renata Maria Byl) Subject: 10baseT pin configuration Message-ID: <CKIBvI.2oH@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 18:40:29 GMT I looked through the faq list and could not find anything on this. Does anyone know what the pin configuration is for the 8pin RJ45S 10baseT ethernet connection on a NeXTstation? Thank you. Renata Dart, renata@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
From: shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca (Geoff Shukin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with new Hard Drive Date: 31 Jan 1994 18:56:28 GMT Organization: SIAST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ijk8s$qjp@tribune.usask.ca> I am expecting the delivery of a Fujitsu 2694 (1.2 gig) drive this week. I am going to be using it with Dos&Windows / Linux / NeXTStep (Intel). I have read that this type of SCSI Drive can be formatted to 1024 byte blocks. My question is: Can I format some or all of the drive to 1024 byte blocks and use all three operating systems without problems? This is possible under NeXT as I have read success stories. Can a person format blocks differently on one drive? Please respond vie Email due to difficulty reading news at my site. Thanks Geoff Shukin shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker) Subject: Printers and modems with NS/FIP Message-ID: <CKICHG.343@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 18:53:40 GMT Greetings All, These may be FAQs, and if so, I would appreciate somebody pointing out to me where thay are. I have two simple questions: 1. Which fax/modems work with NS/FIP, and what software is available to drive them? 2. According to the NeXT compat. guide, only Postscript printers are supported. This option is a little out of my price range, and I would prefer to buy something like the Canon bubble jet 600. Anyway can you make this or other similar printers work with NS/FIP Thanks for the help. NJ. -- Dr Nicholas J Walker nick@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok) Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University Voice: (415) 926-3677 Pager: (415) 424-7335
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The Original NeXTstation Color Printing Bulletin Date: 31 Jan 1994 21:21:30 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2ijsoqINN73u@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I finally dug up the following bulletin from 1991: ***** Irregular Printing on NeXTstation Color ***** NeXT is committed to delivering high-quality products. We use the highest quality components and a careful manufacturing process to minimize any functionality problems. However, we do occasionally encounter malfunctions. Specifically, there have been a limited number of printing problems with NeXTstation Color computers. If your customers with NeXTstation Color computers have not yet experienced this problem, it is likely that the problem will not occur. Note that the probability of malfunction does increase under higher temperatures. The malfunction results in skipped pages, blank pages, and partially printed pages. When you consult the Console of Workspace Manager, you will see the following message: could not open printer device Device busy np0; spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page np0; spurious packet received, cmd = 87 np0: DMA Underrun; Reprinting Page If you identify this problem, please contact NeXT Service Operations to request a replacement CPU board. We will replace two resistors to the current version of the color CPU board to solve the problem. An updated revision of the CPU board will be distributed with new products. ***** ***** Actually, now you have to contact BellAtlantic: Bell Atlantic Computer Technology Services (CTS) 2323 Industrial Parkway West Hayward, CA 94545 1-800-499-NeXT 8am-5pm PST (510) 732-3000 (510) 732-3051 (FAX) -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien), Department of Mental Hygiene, Johns Hopkins University Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptex 1542cf - software? Date: 31 Jan 1994 22:28:59 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <2ik0nbINNbr6@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> This is a simple question but no vendor can answer it. In order to use an adaptec 1452 cf to install NS Intel 3.2 do I need to spend $50 more for their "Master" kit (software drivers for all sorts of SCSI devices) or just the bare card? Thanks, Allen Tien
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: grisu (Gernot A. Pohl) Subject: system test error code 41 Message-ID: <1994Jan30.230128.1869@utata.in-berlin.de> Keywords: fpu Sender: grisu@utata.in-berlin.de Organization: WY Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 23:01:28 GMT I have to solve this problem: On my NeXTstation I get the error code 41 from system test. This should mean the "FPU data registers are faulty" (NeXT handbook). What to do in this case? YOURS -- [NeXT-]Mail to grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de .. viel Spasz! > Gernot Pohl \_/ Schoenhauser Allee 5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: grisu (Gernot A. Pohl) Subject: system error code 41 Message-ID: <1994Jan30.231126.1930@utata.in-berlin.de> Keywords: fpu Sender: grisu@utata.in-berlin.de Organization: WY Date: Sun, 30 Jan 1994 23:11:26 GMT I have trouble: System test on my NeXTmonostation reports error code 41. This means "FPU data registers faulty." What to do now? YOURS -- [NeXT-]Mail to grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de .. viel Spasz! > Gernot Pohl \_/ Schoenhauser Allee 5
From: alistair@bcu.ubc.ca (Alistair Blachford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3-meter monitor cable OK for ADB monitor? Date: 1 Feb 1994 00:13:15 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <2ik6qr$m9r@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I have a vague memory about a warning with respect to using a 3-meter monitor cable (old) on an ADB-style mono monitor. Can anyone confirm this one way or another? Thanks for the info, Alistair alistair@bcu.ubc.ca
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PLEASE READ: BIZARRE EXPERIENCE WITH NeXT PRINTER Date: 30 Jan 1994 11:39:23 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2ig69bINNlsh@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I have a bizarre experience to report on trouble with printing on the NeXT LaserPrinter I just bought from Sam Goldberger. I have a NeXTstation Color 25MHz: - 32MB RAM - 500MB External Fujitsu HD - Software Version 3.2 (Lightning5S) - Serial Number ABC 0006073 which I will call "LIBRA" for brevity. I bought a 400DPI NeXT LaserPrinter: - NeXT 400dpi Level II Printer - Serial Number: AAC 0015251 (February 1992 M) which I will call "NLP" for brevity. When I try to print, I often, but not always, get incomplete pages after which NLP tries to re-print two more times. Sometimes it fails and other times it succeeds. The console shows the following messages while that is happening: error At this point, LIBRA shows me a dialog box informing me that some or all of the requested pages may not have been printed. ***** The bizarre part begins here ******** I have conducted *extensive* testing of LIBRA with 3 other printers: 1) NeXT 400 DPI Printer: AAC 0000164 (April 1988 T) 2) NeXT 400 DPI Printer: AAC 0013319 (November 1991 M) 3) NeXT 400 DPI Printer: AAC 0016334 (March 1992 M) Please note that the third printer is very close to my printer in manufacturing date. It was also purchased from Mr. Goldberger. LIBRA prints with no problems whatsoever with these printers. I have tested a total of about 70-100 pages and it works fine. On the other hand, NLP was connected to: 1) A NeXTstation Color Turbo Software Version 3.1 (Lightning4H) 2) A NeXTstation Color Turbo Software Version 3.1 (Lightning4H) 3) An older NeXTDimension Cube Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B) 4) NeXTstation color 25MHz Software Version 3.2 (Lightning5S) This is similar to libra. It is actually newer than LIBRA with ROM version 2.5 v 66 M (1991) while LIBRA is 2.4. NLP printed perfectly with all four computers. I only face problems when I connect NLP to LIBRA. I have used the same printer cable In all connections. I have moved the setup to four different locations with the same results. One of the four locations was in a totally different part of town. I tried different toner cartridges: no difference. This is driving me crazy because I can not point the finger at any component. LIBRA works with three other NeXT printers without any problems and NLP works with four other NeXT computers with no problems. I have so far printed about 150-200 testpages using PrintManager, WriteNow, Preview. The only time I get a failure is when libra is connected to NLP, why???? Does any one know of an incompatibility between an older 25MHz Color NeXTstation and a 400 DPI NeXT Laser Printer manufactured February 1992? But if that is the case how come LIBRA was able to print to the other Printer which is only a month newer than NLP???? Please help in any way you can. Thank you. --- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flash!jon@myxa.com Subject: Re: Next printer jamming Message-ID: <CKIsJz.1DF@dsinc!flash> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? References: <1994Jan29.173457.1038@nidat.sub.org> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 00:40:47 GMT In article <1994Jan29.173457.1038@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > There is a much cheaper first try: > > The namely roller is in deed too smooth, but this also comes from dusting > with paper fibers. Use cleaning gasoline (no fuel gas, the additives are > poisonous) or isopropyl alcohol and a firm cloth and rubb the roller > firmly 'til it gets back its pitch black color. Normally this suffices to > restore enough grip! Next step of escalation is a bit of abrasive paper > before the cloth and gas. This helps extending the life of the roller and > might spare the money (at least for the casual user). I'm having a similar problem, but only with manual fed paper. It's a brand new printer. Any ideas? Also, the little thingy that hangs down in the cartridge slot tends to crease the paper. Has anyone fixed this on their printer? Thanks- Jon -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Micropolis 1936scsi problems Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 17:33:07 -0800 Organization: University of British Columbia Message-ID: <sandrac-310194173307@port48.annex1.net.ubc.ca> Still looking for information about the Micropolis 1936scsi hard drive formating secrets... Called NeXT tech support they don't know... I have a black ver 3.2 with a Maxtor 340 internal... trying to setup a external 3.6 gig hard drive... When I put the terminating resistors on all I get is parity errors. take them off and Next will recongnize the drive, but only as a swap disk... I go to initialize the swap disk and it then says it does not recognize the drive... I would like to partition the drive with a 2 gig and what ever is left over... Surely millions of users are able to answer this problem now it is available on white hardware and soon to be cannon/motorola... thanks -- ***NO NEXT MAIL here please*** NeXT Epson NX user sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF with >1GB HD Message-ID: <1994Feb1.023442.6766@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <9401232256.AA16032@relay2.geis.com> <2iebgb$4ct@home.interaccess.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 02:34:42 GMT In article <2iebgb$4ct@home.interaccess.com> phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) writes: >same problem. So I called Adaptec. Boy, it was like banging my head against >a brick wall. I was told repeatedly that it could not be done, only 1GB >was accessable and the only OS to access more than 1GB was DOS in >Extended DOS partition mode. Repeatedly the guy told me NOT to use this >mode for NEXTSTEP as it would not work, no way, don't do it, never. I > [munch] >I think Adaptec needs a lesson in NEXTSTEP somehow. > >- Brian. I wouldn't be so hard on Adaptec. I'm amazed that they guy you talked to even knew about NEXTSTEP (or did he -- not clear from the context?). Anyway, the Adaptec guy would have been right, and you'd have been SOL, if the card was a 1542CF. NeXTanswers indicates that a 1542CF can't see more than 1Gig, and implies that a 1542C can if you turn on the extended bios support on the card. Doing this on the 1542CF apparently doesn't help. A driver fix for the 1542CF has been promised Real Soon Now. Perry P.S. I'm more concerened about the fact that no matter what card or driver you have, NS/FIP 3.2 corrupts DOS partitions greater than 64MB is size. Yikes, NeXT, please fix this ASAP! -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nlee@s6.math.umn.edu (Namyong Lee) Subject: Cables to connect Ext SCSI HD to NeXTstation Message-ID: <nlee.760076205@s6.math.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 04:16:45 GMT Hi I'd like to know where can I buy a cable (DB25 to Centronics:SCSI II) so that I can attach my Mac External SCSI Disk to NeXTstation. Thanks for any information for this problem. nlee@math.umn.edu
From: hbott@esu.edu (Howard B Ott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell Dimension XPS Configurations Date: 30 Jan 1994 11:17:00 -0500 Organization: East Stroudsburg University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2igmhs$1b4@marx.esu.edu> Could any one please offer any suggestions / help on configuring a DELL Dimension XPS 466V? The NeXTanswerws.next.com system does not have an updated file on this machine yet- The machine I have has a SoundBlaster and CD-ROM installed. I assume I will have to remove these? I will be using 1542C and external CD-ROM to install (I've used this before to install 3.2 on a Dell M model).. This XPS system has a 5 1/4 floppy, and I don't see any jumpers for disabling it? Is disabling it in the CMOS good enough? This machine has an #9GXE, is a particular version or Rev level of this card required? Berk Ott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) Subject: Re: Does NeXT read this group? Message-ID: <1994Feb1.060204.2710@mail.vitech.fi> Organization: Vaasa Institute of Technology References: <2iiutm$c6n@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 06:02:04 GMT Stefan Wolfrum (wolfrum@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de) wrote: : Hi, : I wonder if anyone from NeXT reads this Newsgroup.?! : Some time ago I asked about the announced Diamond VIPER (Weitek : Power 9000) driver for NeXTstep 3.2/Intel. It was announced in : the Hardware compatibility guide to be available in Q1'94 but : there were no specifications regarding resolutions and color : depth given. As the announced Diamond Viper driver is for VLB, I would like to also know is there (and if so, when?) going to be an PCI driver for Viper. ----- -Jani Miettinen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: PCI motherboards Message-ID: <1994Feb1.071316.28963@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 07:13:16 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: PCI Message-ID: <1994Feb1.071518.29060@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 07:15:18 GMT What is a good price on a PCI 486/DX2-66 motherboard?? How many PCI slots are ther normally? Is PCI only a video slot, or are ALL or MOST slots PCI on the board?? Are the rest EISA? I am told that in rolling your own NeXT Intel -- PCI is the way to go. Is Compute rShopper a good place to look? bp
From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.sun.wanted,misc.forsale.computers.workstation Subject: FOR SALE: SCSI drives Date: 1 Feb 1994 07:42:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2il15u$epp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> I have two quantum drives for sale. I would like roughly a dollar a meg for em. Quantum 240 LPS, SCSI (256k cache?) only a few months old: $200 Quantum 105 LPS, SCSI (64k cache?) about a year old: $100 -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Philip Brown, CIS major, UC Santa Cruz Author of "kdrill", and "xmandel" Winging my way out of academia soon... philb@cats.ucsc.edu philb@soda.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: [c.s.n.h SPLIT] How to name a newsgroup... Message-ID: <M7KLBIEU@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <EPELB5OF@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com> <2igndu$5un@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 08:09:07 GMT John G Shirlaw (jgshir@athena.mit.edu) wrote: > In article <1.4266.2588.0N27BCA9@satalink.com>, tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano) writes: > |> [...] > |> > |> .Intel > |> .HP > |> .Sun > |> .Motorola > |> .DEC (if an alphaPC port should come to pass) > |> .PowerPC ( " PowerPC " ) > |> > |> > |> > I would suggest: > .Next rather than .Motorola As my RFD stated .{m68k, m98k, i386}, I would like to defend that approach... :-) Some comments as an explanation, *why* I proposed the cpu types and not the vendors. Of course the most correct way to differentiate one hardware architecture from another would be the FSF way: cpu-vendor (we can omit the os part :-) NeXT itself uses the cpu type defined by mach. I strongly oppose to use company names like Intel, because it's just a question of time until you'll see some other processor family from Intel running NS. Next uses the cputype abbrevs, Mach uses them, why should we start to use something different? Intel looks fancier, that's correct, but what would be the rule to name a group? "Hardware vendor", "CPU producing company", or the like? I want *predictive results*, so any user on her own machine (i386, m68k, ...) can just run arch to see the name of her newsgroup. I accept other rules, but I want a rule, that can be applied to a machine, to *know* how the newsgroup is named. Ciao, Stephan p.s. why don't we start to use some unique keyword in the subject now that shows, articles belong to this SPLIT discussion? [c.s.n.h SPLIT] ? -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Austin Computer Systems 66 Mhz laptop (SAVE Jake! : -) Message-ID: <1994Feb1.044019.14098@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 04:40:19 GMT In article <CKFI65.Cv2@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes: > This may be of interest to anyone who is considering daring to buy a > laptop that is not NeXT-certified or listed. Maybe you can learn from my > mistakes! :-) > > I recently bought an Austin Computer Systems 486 laptop with the following > configuration: > > 486 66MHz > 32 MB ram > 340 MB Toshiba 2.5" hard disk > TFT Active matrix (color) with "local bus" video (ha!) > Docking station with SMC ethernet card (combo) JAKE'S SAFE! :-) Fear NOT....you do have a usable configuration and we'll do our best to help you through your current trauma. This is actually a very nice little machine, though somewhat heavier than the NEC Versa E. > I also bought an Adaptec 1542CF that I intended to install in the docking > station in order to intall NS. Due to my lack of knowledge about the > implications of the design of the docking station, the requirements of the > Adaptec card, and the way NSFIP works in terms of SCSI support, I quickly > found myself dug into a hole from which there was no escape! :-) Namely, > that all docking stations are not created equal. The bottom line is that > because the 1542CF requires bus mastering and the Austin docking station > did not supply it, it was physically impossible to install NS on the > laptop. Not true... We actually loaded NS 3.2 from the same docking station. I didn't personally handle the loading and I understand that the engineer who did it did run into some problems, but he was able to overcome them. You might want to drop him a line directly at: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sison) He'll be happy to help you all he can. We'll be working on a PCMCIA>SCSI driver very shortly. This will eliminate the need for the docking station for loading the OS. > > I had heard stories of others who had "transplanted" the laptop's disk > drive into a desktop machine and done the installation there. However, > when I compared the two setups, they used different connectors for data > and power and there seemed to be no way to get the job done. I was ready > to consign the machine to life under Windows. Then Austin's tech support > said that I could just get an adaptor that would convert the setup for the > 3.5" drive so that it would physically match the requirements for the 2.5" > drive. Not being up-to-date on PC hardware, I wasn't aware of this > possibility. I went to all of the major computer store chains, asking to > buy this adaptor. I knew I was in trouble when the parts manager at the > local CompUSA told me, with great authority, that there "was no such > thing." The lesson here is never to ask a CompUSA "technician"....he was probably selling shoes last week...."with great authority" :-) > > I then gave up on retail computer stores and drove down to the dusty and > dirty old electronics store where I bought my first computer (an 8K > Commodore PET) back in 1978. Through (what I thought was) an incredible > coincidence, the very guy who had sold me the machine years ago waited on > me and took about 30 seconds to produce a "made in Taiwan" box that > contained exactly what I needed! > > I drove home and opened up my Intel GX and took out the IDE drive. Murphy > wasn't through with me yet (even though this quest had been going on for > three weeks.) It turned out that the wiring of the IDE cables in the Intel > was (naturally) 180 degreees reversed from the requirements of the > adaptor. To further complicate things, the cable was so short that I could > barely give it the required half-twist in order to orient it correctly and > still have the adaptor in the proper position for the power supply. After > a few false starts, it finally came together. > > Before I could install NS on a different drive (or even attempt to boot, > of course) it was necessary to run the EISA configuration utility to > disable the second drive (the existing drive was a partitioned 1 GB drive) > and change the parameters for drive 1 to match the Toshiba drive from the > laptop. Once this was complete and the Adaptec 1542CF was installed, I was > able to boot up and begin installation. Believe me, after all the > disappointments along the way, I was doing some whooping and hollering > when I saw the boot process make it past the critical stage and actually > begin loading! :-) > > It was a little strange to see NS in 640 x 480 displayed on an NEC 6FG > screen. Kind of ..... large. :-) The 2.5" drive was able to run NS while > inside the Intel, so it was time to do the heart transplant and move it > back into the laptop. After reassembling the mounting rails (they wouldn't > allow the right clearance in the Intel so I had to take them apart) I > screwed the drive back into the Austin laptop and crossed my fingers. > > To my amazement, it booted right up. The boot graphics looked much better > on the smaller screen. I breathed a big sigh of relief when the message > popped up that said "network does not recognize computer - enter name:" I > named it "jake" in honor of my favorite John Wayne movie character (who > may have lived somewhere near Austin, I suppose) Jacob "Big Jake" > McCandles. You really do have the patience of Job...I probably would have gunned down old Jake by this point. > > The next thing I knew, I was logged in to my network account and staring > at my usual array of files - just at much lower resolution. I never > realized how hard it could be to run some apps because of the large amount > of real estate they require that can't be shrunk. This will take some > getting used to. Virtspace may solve this problem for you. > > Aside from the screen resolution, the only thing that makes it somewhat > difficult to use NS is the tiny little trackball. It is small as laptop > trackballs go, and it also is mounted in such a way that it jumps around > in the housing during vigorous use. This causes problems soemtimes. I personally find the little track balls a pain, but I also haven't spent much time getting used to it either....I'm told it grows on you. > Maybe I'll figure that out this week. We now have 8 bit greyscale working and we're dialing the 16bit color as well. If you'll drop us a line at: drivers@talus.com we'll keep you updated on when and where the drivers will be available for good old Jake. > > I hope that jake will help me accomplish the objectives I had in buying > it. If so, the high cost will be worth it. If not, it will turn out to be > a pretty expensive Windows platform. > It may still end up that way unless NeXT realizes that you still need third party software and that you won't have it until NeXT begins to support its developers. Otherwise you'll have an expensive "mission critical apps only" laptop machine :-( Just a word of warning....give old Jake a break...those little balls can't handle all that "vigorous use"....and all that jumping around can cause serious damage to his firmware :-):-) Good luck Jake! Steve Sarich III Politically Incorrect Software steve@talus.com (please send driver questions to: drivers@talus.com) (please send flame to: someone.else)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy) Subject: Re: NextDimension questions Message-ID: <1994Jan31.231445.2310@free.fdn.org> Sender: news@free.fdn.org Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France. References: <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 23:14:45 GMT In article <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) writes: > 1. I recall having heard that certain older NeXT cubes will not > support the NeXTDimension --- power supply problems. Is this > indeed the case? If it is, how do I tell whether my machine is affected? > If my machine is affected, can I correct the problem? How? > > 2. What are the specifications on NeXTDimension memory? Is it > resonably standard, or is it a hard to find oddball configuration? > > --- Bill. > -- > William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the > email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science --- > snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be. > ========================================================================== ===== Hi William, You need to add a 20 watt 15 Ohms on the -12 volt. Unless you are a well skilled engineer don t try it yourself, you should ask Bell Atlantic for an exchange. Cheers --Fabien ___________________________________________________________________ Fabien Roy fabien@free.fdn.org NeXTmail OK
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nanao monitor problems!! Date: 1 Feb 1994 08:42:17 -0500 Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA Message-ID: <2ilm7pINN82f@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Hi, if you have a Nanao Flexscan (mine's a 560iW, 17") please respond. I have just got a ecesys 486-66 (nice machine) with a Wingine driver/card combo. I just got a Nanao monitor. The image is crisp and steady as my old NSTC. BUT there are "discolorations" in the upper left, lower left, and lower right of the image which try as I might I can't make go away. I tried the VGA default driver - no difference. I see the discoloration on bootup - before NS kicks in. It seems to be the monitor. I checked the cabling - all tight. The cable was supplied by Nanao - standard, not BNC. All color settings have no effect. Is this then a defective monitor? Anyone? Thanks Robert de Lucca Johns Hopkins University
From: kkudielk@obelix.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Klaus Kudielka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/Intel 3.2 & TokenExpress ISA/16S Date: 1 Feb 1994 14:26:03 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ilopr$65j@email.tuwien.ac.at> I carefully studied the 3.2 hardware compatibility guide (January 4) and finally bought an Intel TokenExpress ISA/16s network adapter for my DECpc MTE 466d2 (this is a _certified_ system). The adapter seems to work (Intel's diagnose program opens and closes the adapter and reports no errors). However, when NS boots, I get the following message during driver configuration: tr0: bad eerom checksum ... aborting The TokenExpress is configured as follows: I/O: 0A20-0A23 & 0A30-0A3F DMA: 7 IRQ: 15 16Mb/s The NS driver is configured like this: I/O: 32 bytes at 0x0A20 DMA: 7 IRQ: 15 16Mb/s Early Token Release enabled I have tried several settings and always get the same error :-( Any ideas??? -- Klaus Kudielka Institut fuer Nachrichtentechnik und Hochfrequenztechnik Technische Universitaet Wien Gusshausstrasse 25/389 A-1040 Wien, Austria Phone: (+43 1) 58801/3530 Fax: (+43 1) 5870583 Email: kkudielk@email.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) Subject: Re: 10baseT pin configuration Message-ID: <7601130092512@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois References: <CKIBvI.2oH@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:30:09 GMT In article <CKIBvI.2oH@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> renata@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Renata Maria Byl) writes: >I looked through the faq list and could not find anything on this. Does >anyone know what the pin configuration is for the 8pin RJ45S 10baseT >ethernet connection on a NeXTstation? Thank you. The NeXT User's Reference has the following: Pin Signal --- ------ 1 TD+ 2 TD- 3 RD+ 4 NC 5 NC 6 RD- 7 NC 8 NC --bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nlee@n3 (Namyong Lee) Subject: DB25 to SCSI2(centris) cable? Message-ID: <nlee.760032740@n3> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 16:12:20 GMT Could you please send any information about where can I get the cable (DB25 to SCSI-2) so that I can attach Mac Ext HardDisk to my NeXTstation? Thanks in advance. nlee@math.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2) Subject: HP DeskJet 500 + 'Station Message-ID: <CKIEJI.207@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 19:30:42 GMT Greetings! I have an HP DeskJet 500 printer which I am presently attempting to use with my NeXTStation. I've got the cable (DIN 8 to DB-25) and the DJ500 driver, but things are somewhat awry (e.g., when i print something, all get for output is the line "(SYNC 207 0 )printf statusdict/pagecount 2 copy known ...etc" what is happening? I would think that the DIP switches might be the culprit, but I am unsure of what the correct settings must be. Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated. Please reply via E-Mail! -Sharad - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218 Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201 Department of Neurosurgery University of Minnesota email: 421 Lions Research Building shanbhag@neuro.med.umn.edu 2001 6th St. SE shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Minneapolis, MN 55455
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: bakerb@il.us.swissbank.com (Brian Baker) Subject: Backup Ideas Message-ID: <1994Feb1.170954.28958@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:09:54 GMT Greetings, I'm about to purchase a backup system for my Cube (with 1.6GB of storage online). At the moment, I'm leaning toward either the Exabyte 4200c or the HP35480A DAT drives, and SafteyNet. If anyone has any experience dealing with these products, or has alternative suggestions, I'd like to hear from you. For example, does anyone know the difference between these two drives? The specs appear identical (4-8GB capacity, with compression, similar speeds, etc). Profuse thanks in advance, Brian Baker. bakerb@swissbank.com bbaker@its.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: A Great Idea Whose Time Has Come!!! (not MINE : -) Message-ID: <1994Feb1.065607.14517@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 06:56:07 GMT In article <1994Jan30.091646.29381@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > I'd much rather communicate with sales people from various PC system > vendors by e-mail, than by phone.... I've seen a lot of flack on the net about how little support the PC manufacturers are giving NeXTSTEP and NeXTSTEP customers. As a company that deals with most of these manufacturers, we get to see both sides of the issues involved. These companies aren't ruled by a single mindset, as some are :-).. but rather by a group of decision making individuals who are all competing within their own company for a share of the minimal resources that are available. These resources have become ever more scarce as the PC wars cut profit margins to single digits...or less. In this situation the only thing that wins attention is sales figures...and we ALL know that NeXTSTEP isn't bringing in enough numbers to win ANYONES attention. A big "hit", now and then, doesn't count for much. Each of these PC manufacturers have a small group, usually 2 or 3 NeXTSTEP zealots, that, against all odds, have pushed NeXTSTEP within their companies, often at serious peril to their own jobs. They have had little, or no, ammunition with which to prove their case. To add to their problems, most of the hardware design in their companies has centered around Windoz development. The result is that the manufacturers of video chips, SCSI chipsets, etc., whose major market is Windoz, haven't exactly been dying to provide the PC manufacturers with NeXTSTEP drivers for their hardware. Thus, most of the the PC hardware is not NeXTSTEP compatible. We now have a CATCH-22.... We can't show enough sales of NeXTSTEP compatible machines to justify the support of NeXTSTEP drivers and we can't justify the expense of writing drivers unless we have sales. (Admittedly this ignores the problem that there aren't enough copies of NeXTSTEP being sold, but this is also due to the limited amount of hardware on which it will run...another CATCH-22). In all fairness to NeXT...if they aren't selling enough copies of the OS, they can't afford to pay for the development of all of the necessary drivers on their own and they can't convince the chip manufacturers to pay for them. (Not that their policy on driver development, to this point, has helped them at all) Let's all look at how we can support NeXT, the PC guys that have supported NeXTSTEP, and ourselves. Karl Pfleger, who made this original post, had an EXCELLENT idea! Considering that we must somehow break this CATCH-22 cycle, the most logical solution is to help the PC advocates show some sales. Karl's also right in suggesting that the best way to do this is to let people know which machines they sell that will COMPLETELY support NeXTSTEP (via email). (You shouldn't have to be an engineer to get your system configured...unfortunately we've all been through this :-( To add to the problem, too few of the PC advocates currently have email connections, so we're all forced to put up with the "800 numbers from Hell". This is a problem that can be easily solved. If there's enough interest we can solve that problem very quickly. If you'd like to have a direct email channel to the PC manufacturers, never be put on hold and never leave a voicemail (that you KNOW will never be answered)...in order to spend YOUR money on THEIR hardware, we have a plan. If you'll send us an email, we'll collect them all and forward them on to every PC advocate at NEC, DEC, Compaq, Dell, Epson, HP, Sun, and IBM (Canada only :-) to let them know that they can have your business if can just reach them directly. Believe me...they'll respond. (If they don't...don't buy a machine from them...they'll get the message) If you don't think this is a good idea, send us email too. If you DO think this is a good idea, send email to: drivers@talus.com Subject: We like it! We'll forward this mail, by fax, phone, email, pidgeon, or dogsled, to each of these manufacturers. If you don't hear back from them, you can assume that they're "bozos" :-) I've have left out some people...NOT because they're not important, but because they're ALREADY supporting you. These guys already sell NeXTSTEP systems that are completely supported...AND have email! They should be congratulated and supported. Send them some email...just to let them know you appreciate them. NEC: mduggan@nectech.com Ecesys: ECESYS@delphi.com Workstation 2000: tfinn@gun.com Alembic: dale@alembic.com DELL: hartselt@ccmail.us.dell.com If you don't get a response from them....let us know! Anyone we've left out should send us their email addresses...NO 800 numbers PLEASE!) Steve Sarich III Politically Incorrect Software steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn) Subject: NeXT CD-ROM drives, help!!! Message-ID: <CKK0z5.F4D@pts.mot.com> Keywords: usa, world Sender: news@pts.mot.com Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 16:40:17 GMT I'm so close I can taste NeXTStep running on my Versa. I got the 12 megs, bought the damn docking station, bought a 340MB internal drive, bought this Adaptec Card for the damn docking station. Now I try to boot NeXTStep and it doesn't recognize my CD-ROM drive. Doesn't recognize the NEC triple-spin, or the old Sony I have, or my (God Forbid.) Sun CD-ROM drive. According to the hardware compatibility guide only two CD-ROM drives work with NeXTStep: CD ROM DRIVES Vendor Model Notes _____________________________________________________________________ NEC CDR - 74 External NeXT Sony 541 External Now the CDR-74 is discontinued, so even if I wanted it (which I don't) I can't get it. Same is true for the NeXT drive. Now, is the NeXT Sony 541 the same drive as the Apple CD300?? What drive are we supposed to buy to install NS? Why are there only two drivers on the floppy. Why not just ship more floppies with more drivers. I know. I know. Why as Why? But then again, if I can't get NSFIP up and running, how is Joe consumer going to do anything but send NeXT a mail bomb after dealing with these headaches. Of all the drives to support, why two discontinued ones. Help anyone.... Bueller? Thanks, Stu ------------------------------------------------------------ Stuart Hamlyn Motorola Inc. Applied Research MS 71 1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292 (407)-364-3997 (407)-364-3904 (FAX) stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
From: or@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Oliver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextanswers: Suggestion Date: 1 Feb 1994 18:26:09 GMT Organization: TU Darmstadt Distribution: world Message-ID: <2im6s1$esm@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> As the existance of drivers seems to be the main problem for NS/Intel users, I suggest nextanswers to add a new page to the nextanswers system. This page should contain a list of ALL existing drivers for any hardware devices - and it should be pretty often actualized !!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) Subject: Re: Summary: NeXT station on side? Message-ID: <CKK8Iw.74y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington References: <KEN.94Jan26155743@ieyasu.phys.titech.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 19:23:20 GMT Ken-ichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp) wrote: : Doesn't this mean you just have to (low level) format : the drive in the position you want to keep it? Some time ago, I had : a 8088 (wow!) machine, with a wopping 32MB(!) drive. I DID indeed have : problems (media errors) after putting it on its side, but it was happy : after I low level reformatted it. As far as I know, the computer : still works.... : -- : Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, : Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN I expect this is true. however, I'm not up for doing a low-level format, as right now I don't have good back-up capability (but that's another story). -- Will Fischer wfischer@indiana.edu (Grad Student) Department of Biology "So much time, and so little to do! Indiana University Wait. Strike that. Reverse it. Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA Thank you." -- Willy Wonka
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) Subject: Re: NextDimension questions Message-ID: <1994Feb1.185604.15476@ictv.com> Sender: usenet@ictv.com Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200 References: <2iik4e$pa0@inxs.concert.net> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 18:56:04 GMT Advanced Business Systems writes > In article <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu > (William E. Aitken) writes: > > 1. I recall having heard that certain older NeXT cubes will not > > support the NeXTDimension --- power supply problems. Is this > > indeed the case? If it is, how do I tell whether my machine is > > affected? > > If my machine is affected, can I correct the problem? How? > > > I would think only the 68030 Cubes would have difficulty in supply > the ND Board > with power...corrections anyone? I've got Cube # 2059 without the power supply upgrade, and I'm handling an 040, 030 and a NeXTDimension with no problems. The problem with the old power supplys is that you have to have the Mono monitor plugged in, because the power supply _needs_ the load. Someone has posted about the use of some hefty power resisters, but I prefer having two screens. Robert -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK 660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bug From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) Subject: Is UltraStor control supported/ installation prob ? Message-ID: <boonlow.760130071@sfu.ca> Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news) Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 19:14:31 GMT Hey Guys, I just got my NSFIP 3.2 and I have been spending 3 to 4 days trying to install it. No matter how or which ever combination I try, I can never get past the stage of installation and the system will keep on hanging on me :-(( .... I'm really up to my neck in installation and if anyone has any advice, please help. My system config ---------------- 2 IDE harddrive WD 340 mb each 1 Seagate ST31200N 1 gig SCSI-2 drive NEC CDR-841 cd drive 1 Ultrastor 34f VESA SCSI controller <--- problem ? 32 mb of ram Noname made in China motherboard <- problem ? PAS 16 sound card SCSI ID ------- 0 Seagate ST31200 3 NEC CDR84 7 Ultrasstor 34F I guess that's about all. My system will always keep on hanging on me right after it ask you to press '1' to load a device driver from disk .. or '2' to continue without loading additional drivers After I select option '2', it will go to a screen and hang there. I called NeXT tech-support and they said the don't have any knowledge of support on my UltraStor controller and motherboard. Infact, they said the problem might laid on the controller and motherboard. Before I go out and buy a AIR motherboard and a Adaptech 1542 controller, I would like some net advice on whether I could made my combination work without spending more moeny and being uncertain of the results. I am dead broke already, with the 1gig drive and 32 mb of memory. I know about disabling the 5.25 diskdrive in bios. Initally, I thought the problem might lay in my 2 IDE harddrive as the manual didn't state whether it would support 2 IDE harddrive and 1 SCSI drive or not ? I went through mostof the faq without finding any help in them. I disable 1 IDE drive, then the other one , then both drives but all the while, I got the same results as above. I am running Linux, OS/2 and DOS on my 2 IDE drives and have absolutely no problems with them. I tried using the OS/2 boot manager and follow the advice on installing NeXT as an option in OS/2 boot manager but without success at all. I have invested tons of money inorder to run NeXTSTEP and all this failure is really a big disappointment to me. So guys, please offer me some help/advice if possible to what I should do know... :-( Thanks alot for reading. Regards, Ben.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha) Subject: Can NS handle 2Gb? Negative free space... Message-ID: <1994Feb1.114143.16582@news.uminho.pt> Keywords: ST12400N, BuilDisk, fdisk, disk Sender: newsadm@news.uminho.pt (Network News Account) Organization: Universidade do Minho Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 11:41:43 GMT Hi, I'm trying to install NSFIP 3.1 on a Seagate ST12400N, with 2Gb, and it's a frustration! The same PC works fine with 1Gb disk. I have one Adaptec 1542C rev. h, but I've tried also with the Adaptec 1542B and BusLogic 545. I've configured the controller with the NeXTanswers information about the Adaptec. When I tried to install NS from the beginning , it's says something like: "You must have at least 120Mb to install NS". When booting it displays the correct disk reference. When I use it as second hd, and run the BuilDisk.app, it says that the disk size is... -2048Mb! (and the partition button is dimmed). Can you help me? Have you a ST12400N? Thanks in advance, Jorge. P.S.: The fdisk, running in one terminal, doesn't work! Or I don't know how it works... --
From: chribeag@cs.tu-berlin.de (Christian Klass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which VLB-SCSI-Controller to buy? Date: 1 Feb 1994 21:50:06 GMT Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ Message-ID: <2imiqe$pfr@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Hello, since I want to have a real operating system on my pc I need a good VLB SCSI controller for it. It should do bus-mastering and be supported by messydos, NeXT-Step (of course!!!), Linux and OS/2 2.1. If anyone out there knows the best (and hopefully not to expensive) solution tell me... As far as I've heard the Adaptec 2842 (not yet(?) supported) or the Ultrastore or so seem to be very good. Thanx in advance, Chris
From: chribeag@cs.tu-berlin.de (Christian Klass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will my SPEA Mercury VLB with 2 MByte VRAM work with NSi? Date: 1 Feb 1994 21:55:53 GMT Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ Message-ID: <2imj59$pfr@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Hello, since I want to install NeXT-Step (spelling o.k.?) for Intel-processors I need to know if my SPEA Mercury VLB 2 MB VRAM will work with it. As far as I know, there is a problem with double-clocking S3 cards at least under Linux. Will I have the same problems with NSi or is there anyone out there, who works with this card? Thanx in advance, Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) Subject: NeXT Startup Problem Message-ID: <1994Feb1.213609.15675@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Summary: NeXT fails to boot (mostly) Keywords: NeXT mono slab boot problem Organization: Little to None Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 21:36:09 GMT I own a NeXT Mono slab (an original, not turbo, not ADB, etc...). When I 'cold start' it from powered off, it stops at the beginning of the boot process and jumps to the NMI (I believe) window. At that point I can type 'bsd' and it boots up just fine. When I reboot (warm) it boots fine. I suspect that I set up some BAD boot options, but I know not how to test this theory, nor do I know how to reset the boot options, nor can I find that info in the FAQ's... Please give me a hand (I want to see the new graphical boot sequence :-) Email appreciated, Kurt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jleuper@jleuper (Jim Leuper) Subject: Question: hooking up Bernoulli w/ Mac filesystem Message-ID: <CKKFJw.J80@lotus.com> Keywords: Bernoulli, Macintosh, SCSI Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 21:55:08 GMT I am trying to transfer a lot of files from a NeXT machine to a Macintosh. The thought occured to me that since the NeXT supports SCSI, and it can read a Macintosh-formatted floppy, that perhaps it can do the following: Can I hook up an ordinary Iomega Bernoulli drive (Transportable Pro 90) to the NeXT's SCSI chain (running 3.2), insert a Macintosh-formatted cartridge, and read and write to the Mac file system? Then I could just copy the UNIX files over to the Bernoulli cartridge and move them to the Macintosh. Or do I need additional device drivers, etc. etc. etc.? Any experience of insights would be appreciated. -- Jim Leuper Lotus Development Corporation jleuper@lotus.com Advanced Technology Group
From: traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Summary: NeXT station on side? Date: 1 Feb 1994 19:02:34 -0500 Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158 Message-ID: <2imqiqINNc0b@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU> References: <KEN.94Jan26155743@ieyasu.phys.titech.ac.jp> <CKK8Iw.74y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> In article <CKK8Iw.74y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) writes: >Ken-ichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp) wrote: >: Doesn't this mean you just have to (low level) format >: the drive in the position you want to keep it? Some time ago, I had >: a 8088 (wow!) machine, with a wopping 32MB(!) drive. I DID indeed have >: problems (media errors) after putting it on its side, but it was happy >: after I low level reformatted it. As far as I know, the computer >: still works.... >: -- >: Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, >: Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN > >I expect this is true. however, I'm not up for doing a low-level >format, as right now I don't have good back-up capability (but that's >another story). I have an intel NS machine that I have switched from horizontal to vertical positions and back several times without problems or a low level format. I think this was a much bigger issue 6-7 years ago, but the modern disk drives I've seen don't seem to have this problem. Later, Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Kevin Low) Subject: max length next printer cable Message-ID: <CKKLnI.EtK@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8704] Organization: Forest Dynamics/NCFES/USDA-FS Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 23:56:52 GMT Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. I want to connect my next printer with a cable 20 feet from my slab. Will it work? Do I need it shielded? Is the cable that comes with the printer shielded? Should I be worried about low signal strength after 20 feet? Thanks! -- Kevin Low (lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu) ^ ^ [ASCII only, please] North Central Forest Experiment Station ^^^ ^^^ Standard USDA - Forest Service ^^^^^ | Disclaimers 1992 - Folwell Ave. / St.Paul, MN 55108 | | Apply
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: fan@sonia.math.ucla.edu (Paul Fan) Subject: Dead Printer Message-ID: <1994Feb1.235007.17328@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 23:50:07 GMT Greetings, I have a friend who killed his NeXT b/w printer by running it from an European outlet (220v) without first flipping the inside switch. Does anyone know whether there is likely to be an easy fix to this problem? He is in Europe and he would like to know whether he should just junk the printer or bring it back to be fixed. Thanks in advance, Paul fan@math.ucla.edu
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Attack of the Killer ED Floppy!! Message-ID: <2imsj1$pdf@news.duke.edu> Date: 2 Feb 94 00:36:49 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C. Originator: dblakele@north1.acpub.duke.edu It's me, again. I've gotten replies anywhere from: 1) Barium ferrite ED floppies are a rather unstable medium and they may be on their way out into the trash sooner or later. 2) My PLI unit may be out to lunch and in need of servicing or replacement. 3) The disk utilties from 3.1 are pretty lousy for non-NeXT external floppy drives, but the one's from 3.0 could be used to replace the buggy ones, including /etc/disk, /etc/newfs, and possibly sdform. If the utilities from 3.0 need to be installed, which ones are they? Thanx Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Duke University _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | Center for Health Policy \\// NeXTmail happily accepted | | Durham NC 27710 \/ #include <disclaim.duke.h> |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: DELL (Logitech) Mouse woes Message-ID: <1994Feb2.014237.364@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Keywords: mouse Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 01:42:37 GMT We received a DELL Dimension XPS the other day. It came with a DELL PS/2 Mouse (Logitec M SR14 - 6MD) that NEXTSTEP 3.2 doesn't seem to support. Windows NT thinks it's fine. A Microsoft PS/2 Mouse works on the DELL XPS with NEXTSTEP 3.2 and with NT. How can this be? Any ideas? I thought a PS/2 mouse is a PS/2 mouse is a PS/2 mouse, etc... Thanks in advance. Brad -- Bradley Head Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted) 604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
From: qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI GUP on PCI WORKS!!! ,any interest ? Date: 2 Feb 1994 02:01:04 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2in1h0$dan@menudo.uh.edu> References: <2ib3gg$7m9@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <2ib3gg$7m9@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) writes: > > Here the howto for the ATI GUP PCI card: I have done whatever you indicated in your post to comp.sys.next.hardware but it never worked for me. My ATI card is ATI Graphics Utral+ 2Mb, which has 68875 DAC and Mach32 chips on it but it is not ATI Graphics Ultral Pro. So my questions are 1. what type of ATI card do you have? 2. how do you choose the memory aperture? In another words why you choose 0x40000000 not some others? On the manual of my ATI board, it says the memory apeture can be chosen at 2 Mb above the system available memory. What happened on my computer is after boot and finishing all the initialization the computer is supposed to show the login panel then the system crushed and started to reboot automatically. Feng qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu
From: ssircar@canon.com (Subrata Sircar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for Mac/NeXT equipment Date: 1 Feb 1994 20:57:24 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402020254.AA07556@alychne-nc.canon.com> I am looking for an external modem and CD-ROM drive useable with both a Mac (IIci) and NeXT (NeXTStation color). I have heard rumors that the Apple CD-ROM drive is useable with both; are there any other brands that meet that criteria? Is it true that virtually any external modem will work with the NeXT (and given appropriate software, the Mac)? I am a relative newbie to telecommunications and peripherals, so any answers are appreciated. I'm using a mail-to-news gateway, so please address replies to me (ssircar@canon.com). I will summarize to both groups when I get answers. Thanks! -- Subrata Sircar|ssircar@canon.com (NextMail ok)|Prophet & SPAMIT Charter Member Canon Information Systems and I do not share the same views on everything. "I'm just mad that I missed the sexual revolution." - me "Yes, but you dress much better as a result." - Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: karsten.wolf@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Subject: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS Message-ID: <CKK2As.DA1@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Sender: g402@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:08:52 GMT Organization: University of Giessen, Germany Keywords: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS config 1: 486/66 VL-BUS with AMI bios AHA 1542cf (floppy drive attached to 1542) 8 mb ram s3/805-video card with 1mb dram 500 mb scsi hd Apple CD 150 In the installation process after specifying the size of the NS-partition, I get the following: Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 unexpected kernel trap d eip 1627a1 Failed instruction exception (2,d,460000) Waiting for remote debugger connection (Type c to continue or r to reboot) c doesnït help, understandably config 2: 486/66 VL-BUS with AMI bios AHA 1542cf (floppy drive attached to 1542) 16 mb ram s3/805-video card with 1 mb dram 1,2 GB scsi hd audioblaster 16asp videospigot internal cd rom drive XM-3401B hp scsi dat tape I get :thread: waitForInterrupt:returns -735 very early in the installation process (probably when resetting the scsi bus). Iïd be really happy to get some hints, Karsten D. Wolf (karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Monitors Message-ID: <1994Feb2.053557.13684@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 05:35:57 GMT I am wondering if, in general, 15" monitors can do better than 1024x768 screenres. Also -- can the 2mb ATI board go higher res than 1024x768?? Can this board be upgraded to 4mb by the user? Finally, can the ATI (the so-common VLB ATI board -- dunno which model -- w/ 2mb) go 1120x832?? If not the 2mb ver, can the 4mb? bp I assume these boards can function as std. VGA if a DOS partition is booted on a NeXT Intel machine, am I correct?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Re: Dot matrix printer drivers Message-ID: <1994Feb2.053940.13821@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <2hk5r2INN5kk@network.ucsd.edu> <1994Jan26.205130.28355@ve6mgs.ampr.org> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 05:39:40 GMT >That is all this, and the other dot matrix printers are realy capable of. >additional effort to use their 360dpi capability is not worth it since non >of these printers are allowed to have two 360dpi dots next to eachother. I've an Epson AP3250 -- it is entirely capable of printing 360dpi (two dots next to each other). I've a driver to do this on my Amiga system. Is there such a driver on NS? bp
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PAS16 problems under 3.2 - still exists? Date: 2 Feb 1994 09:39:59 +0200 Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre Distribution: world Message-ID: <2inlcf$dgj@cc.tut.fi> I recall people having some major problems with Pro audio spectrum 16 under NSI 3.1. Are the problems inherited to 3.2 as well? My configuration is: ati ultra pro w/2M vlb, Buslogic 542B isa and multi-io card with isa. Any hope to get pas16 to work in a reliable way in this system? I thinking of purchasing Pro Audio Basic, is there any incompartibilities with the big brother so that the PAbasic wouldn't work with nsi3.2? -Juha -- Doctor, doctor! I suck. You've gotta help me.
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A Great Idea Whose Time Has Come!!! (not MINE : -) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 03:40:00 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <19940202.03400075.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <1994Feb1.065607.14517@talus.com> Ditto, ditto, ditto. Marty
From: gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Gianfranco Pocecai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: max length next printer cable Date: 2 Feb 1994 08:52:02 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2inpji$din@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> References: <CKKLnI.EtK@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CKKLnI.EtK@news.cis.umn.edu> lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Kevin Low) writes: > I want to connect my next printer with a cable 20 feet from my slab. > Will it work? Do I need it shielded? Is the cable that comes with the > printer shielded? Should I be worried about low signal strength after > 20 feet? Thanks! > I have been able to extend the cable length to 20 feet with no apparent problem, but no way to go over 20!! I used a shielded cable. I hope it helps Gianfranco -- Gianfranco Pocecai President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group University of Milano - Computer Science Department Via Comelico, 39/41 20135 Milano - Italy E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mxedisn@teal.csn.org (David C. Whitcombe) Subject: Black Hardware Monitor Replacement Message-ID: <CKLBux.C3J@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 09:32:56 GMT I own a '040 cube (with buckets of ram and stuff) and my 17" megapixel is starting to get tired. Specifically, when darkness (as in the blackness of a key-window's title bar) is superimposed over non-darkness (like the file viewer) then I see a light smudge propigating to the right. Also, a couple of weeks ago, the monitor was showing excessive fuzziness and loss of brightness control. Is there a non-NeXT replacement for this monitor? Are the tube problems I'm having solvable by a TV Repairman? Is all I need a cleaning? Anyone with experience in tired Megapixel monochrome monitors, please email me with your horror stories (or stories of success) at: mxedisn@gendep.com Thanks.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: The Original NeXTstation Color Printing Bulletin Date: 1 Feb 1994 10:42:16 -0000 Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2ilbm8$ri@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2ijsoqINN73u@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware >If you identify this problem, please contact NeXT Service Operations to >request a replacement CPU board. We will replace two resistors to the >current version of the color CPU board to solve the problem. An updated >revision of the CPU board will be distributed with new products. >***** ***** Could anybody, NeXT? clarify specifically which serial numbers are effected by this problem? Can we keep a database of effected serial numbers ourselves? Anybody know if ABC00014894 will be effected? -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "What?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Install an internal hard disk on NeXTstation Message-ID: <3CMLBF9P@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2ijn1o$ils@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 09:37:24 GMT Jimmy M. Ferng (ferng@Arizona.EDU) wrote: > The IBM OEM 0662S12 1 gigabyte drive is recognized as such by the system > program "disk" and "disk" will format it and say that it is properly > formatted. But it does not seem to be able to initialize and the system > software does not seem able to install itself on the drive or initialize > it - when installing from a cd rom. When it tries to initialize it the > programs get write errors "Incomplete disk transfer etc". Also the system > will not boot from the cd unless I give the cd a lower target number than > the new internal and uninitialized hard drive. This is correct. You have to set the innermost smd jumper on the bottom of the disk (synchrounous mode disable). Second you have to toggle the ASDPE bit in mode select page 0. It's bit 7 in byte 3. Send me an email, if you need details. Afterwards it runs just fine (I use it at the moment :-) byte factory settings correct settings 03 31 0011 0001 b1 1011 0001 ----------------^-----------------------^------- factory: ASDPE=0, CMDAC=1, RPFAE=1, CPE=1 correct: ASDPE=1, CMDAC=1, RPFAE=1, CPE=1 Ciao, Stephan p.s. ASDPE means "Additional Save Data-Pointer Enabled" p.p.s. you will see in byte 5 whether you correctly set the asynchrounous mode jumper. Bit 5 must be 1. Note, that you can set this bit, but it's ignored, you really have to set the jumper! byte factory settings correct settings 05 00 0000 0000 20 0010 0000 ------------------^-----------------------^------ factory: TCHD=0, TCC=0, DSN=0, FRDD=0, DPSDP=0, WPEN=0 CAEN=0, LITF=0 correct: TCHD=0, TCC=0, DSN=1, FRDD=0, DPSDP=0, WPEN=0 CAEN=0, LITF=0 DSN means "Disable Synchronous Mode negiotiation" -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Marianne Kern (kernm@lfgms.logica.com) Subject: HP Gecko availability in UK? Message-ID: <CKLFDn.MwF@carmen.logica.co.uk> Sender: news@carmen.logica.co.uk (News Manager Account) Organization: Logica Ltd. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 10:48:59 GMT So when is the Gecko likely to be available in the UK?
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions for a 600MB-1.2GB Hard Disk Date: 1 Feb 1994 21:15:53 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <2imgq9$osa@bilbo.suite.com> References: <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> In article <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> btf64@cas.org (Bernard T. French) writes: > > I must first apologize for not paying more attention to these types of > requests from earlier postings, but who would have guessed that my wife would > offer to buy me an external hard disk for my birthday. She being the computer > type, such that when she first encountered a mouse, she picked it up and waved > it in the air and wondered why the cursor didn't move. :-) > > I'm looking for recommendations for an external hardisk in the 600MB-1.2GB > range for my Mono NeXTstation (25MHz). I'm looking for a device that cost > around $1000.00 or less. > > Thanks! > > -- Bernie 1-800-572-4305 DC Direct Connections. I just bought a 3.5inch Fujitsu drive 8.6ms 1.2g (1033meg formatted). installed with only a 3.5 to 5 1/4 adapter kit in my cube. $851+shipping. Great deal. I have no affiliation with this company but they were great help. Scot > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | REWARD: Lost .sig, last seen in comp.sys.* or bionet.*, answers to | > | the name btf64@cas.org | > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hårseth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptex 1542cf - software? Date: 2 Feb 1994 13:18:51 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <2io5nb$72v@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no> References: <2ik0nbINNbr6@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> I installed NextStep to night using Adaptec 1542cf without aditional sw-drivers (used the 1540B (?) driver suplied by Next). The installation went fine except for the fact that the PC hangs up now and then. It seems like it happens when I run an app. that uses sound and disk simultaniously. I suppose this is the same problem several others have mentioned in this news-group (using the A1542 together with the ProAudio Studio). Has anyone found a configuration with the A1542cf and PAS that works. What about other combinations of cards ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pbennett@is.morgan.com (Paul Bennett) Subject: Recommendations for 1Gb drive needed Message-ID: <PBENNETT.94Feb2092832@bkis152.is.morgan.com> Sender: news@is.morgan.com Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 14:28:32 GMT My color station died over the w/e - and I need a new disk. Can anyone recommend a ~1.2G 3.5" drive that I can replace the dead internal 400MB with ? I've been told that HP and Seagate are good, but since the dead drive (only 18mo old) is a Seagate, I'm a little wary of them. If you a) have put a ~1G 3.5 drive in a color turbo b) have had good experiences with it (e,g it works realiable, quietly and has been for quite a while e.g 6mo+) c) you got it for a good price could you e-mail me at pbennett@morgan.com with the details. Also, if anyone has good prices and suppliers on ANY 1.2G drives, I'd appreciate that info as well. Thanks - paul PS I don't read c.s.n.hw that often, so e-mail is definitely preferred. -- Paul Bennett Morgan Stanley and Co. Inc. 1 Pierrepont Plaza, Brooklyn , NY (718) 754 5129 pbennett@is.morgan.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: HP Gecko availability in UK? Message-ID: <CKLvFI.3Jv@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <CKLFDn.MwF@carmen.logica.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 16:35:42 GMT In article <CKLFDn.MwF@carmen.logica.co.uk> Marianne Kern (kernm@lfgms.logica.com) writes: > So when is the Gecko likely to be available in the > UK? It is available now from us. How many would you like to buy :-> PDO runs today, NEXTSTEP tomorrow ? -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI GUP on PCI WORKS!!! ,any interest ? Date: 2 Feb 1994 16:50:19 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2iolkb$71e@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2ib3gg$7m9@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <2in1h0$dan@menudo.uh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Feng Qiu (qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu) wrote: : I have done whatever you indicated in your post to comp.sys.next.hardware : but it never worked for me. : My ATI card is ATI Graphics Utral+ 2Mb, which has 68875 DAC : and Mach32 chips on it but it is not ATI Graphics Ultral Pro. : So my questions are Sorry for the confusion, in my mind ATI GUP stands for Graphics Ultra Pro, not Plus. Bye then ... Alex Keiblinger -- "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: removing an internal hard disk from a CUBE - help is needed Date: 2 Feb 1994 17:43:35 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2iooo7$9f3@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu My CUBE has now an HD and an OD. I plan to remove the HD. Do I need to install an internal terminator or whatever? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: jmazo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New system buying: need advice Date: 2 Feb 1994 18:24:02 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> I am looking for a computer system that would fit the following specifications for the least amount of money, and would like the collective wisdom of the net on the subject of acquiring (pointers to sellers would be appreciated as well) a computer with the following attributes: 1). Pentium (with cache expandable or shipped at 256 K) 2). PCI bus (version 2.0) 3). 12 M RAM 4). Local Bus Video (with video card to support at least 1280 x 1024 x 8-bit grayscale x 70 HZ refresh) 5). 17 (or 19) inch grayscale monitor to mate with above 6). 450 M hard drive (not necessarily very fast one), IDE or SCSI 7). SCSI CD-ROM drive (w/SCSI controller) 8). 4 removable-media bays (I guess this means it is probably a tower or mini-tower) 9). A reasonable fax-modem (fast, but not the "latest and greatest") 10). An ink jet printer (HP-style) 11). MOST IMPORTANTLY, I have to be able to run NeXTSTEP (however it is spelled these days) on it. 12). The purchase will have to be made so that the system would arrive at about March 10th so I have time to install NeXTSTEP before my finals. I have looked into the possibilities on a few systems and components, notably from DELL, Digital (XL series), Gateway 2000 (P5 series), various IBM incarnations, and several different video cards (#9GXE, ATI GUP, Miro, S3 based, Diamond Viper), but no decision resulted. I am ready to buy things from several sources, and DELL has a student discount at my university (if that is any help). DEC people say there is a 5% edu. discount. Basically, I am looking for a fairly powerful system, without color (but possibility of adding it much later), and ability to expand later with things like audio cards, tape drive, and joystick for my little brother to play his games. Buying a few components separately and integrating them is not a problem. You are welcome to mail me or to post; if there is interest I will mail or post a summary of results. Thanks in advance, Jacob.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian) Subject: Help : Kernel server and Device drivers Message-ID: <1994Feb2.182551.10730@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 18:25:51 GMT Hi, This probably is a naive question. What are the advantages or disadvantages using a loadable kernel server over kernel driver (device driver). As we were having lot of trouble writing a kernel driver, we decided to write a loadable kernel server using the example in the LKS given in NeXTStep version 3.2. As there was lot of documentation it was easier to understand this, so we gave it a try. As a starting point we were able to succesfully write data to some port. Is there any problem using the kernel server - like when we are acquiring data and decide to run some other program or do mouse click,drag etc to check the data points , how will the data acquisition be affected and can we do something to give it the highest priority? Also is there a way to get rid of all the messages that go in to the \usr\adm\messages when we run the loadable kernel server. We will be aquiring tons of data and it seems rediculous for these to get in to the message file. Any suggestions will be appreciated. If possible please reply to balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu Thanks balu
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: V.FC Modems and NS/I? Date: 2 Feb 1994 19:14:37 GMT Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA Message-ID: <2iou2u$c82@agate.berkeley.edu> Has anyone tried using any of the new V.FC 28.8Kbps modems with NS/I? It appears that manufacturers will offer inexpensive updates to V.Fast when the standard is finished in a couple of months, so I'm tempted. The ones I'm considering are --the Hayes Optima 288, which includes a special high-speed ISA serial card (apparently 16550 UARTs aren't fast enough to keep up). PC Connection is selling them for $399 with the card if you trade in a 9600- or 14400-baud modem. --the Microcom, which gets around the speed limitation of current UARTS by attaching to the parallel port. Microcom has announced that the upgrade to V.Fast will be $39. --the US Robotics, which has a DSP that can simply be reprogrammed for V.Fast (and for future fixes and enhancements). I've heard that the new serial driver in NS/I is now much faster, but will it handle 28.8Kbps? Thanks for your help, Mitch Gass mitch@mills.edu
From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: ISA & SCSI systems Date: 2 Feb 1994 18:29:24 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2iore4$ous@ftp-p.mccaw.com> All of the ads that I've seen for systems with SCSI HDs come with EISA slots, while IDE systems come with ISA slots. This seems to make sense to me, because an IDE drive will be transferring data at 32 bits, as will an EISA controller and SCSI HD. My question is: does it make sense to couple a SCSI HD with an ISA controller? The ISA controller will only be able to transfer data at 16 bits, and therefore should be significantly slower than an EISA controller, correct? -- // David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ... // david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: SCSI vs IDE Message-ID: <1994Feb2.180159.11502@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:01:59 GMT I am calling around and pricing different Intel systems on which to run NeXTStep -- and I'm often finding that SCSI controller/drive (approx. 530mb) costs near $1000 more than IDE equivalent. Is there THAT much difference in sys speed by using IDE instead of SCSI?? And I do know that SCSI-CDROM is needed for initial install. bp
From: lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS Date: 2 Feb 1994 20:36:48 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2ip2t0$ap0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <CKK2As.DA1@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS karsten.wolf@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) writes: >config 1: >486/66 VL-BUS with AMI bios >AHA 1542cf (floppy drive attached to 1542) As far as I am informed, the floppy controller on the adaptec is not supported! You will need an separate floppy controller... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Grupe UID lunde <lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de> Technische Universitaet Berlin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: u288869@uebung3.rz.fh-reutlingen.de (Frank Martin Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PAS16: Problems with ISA Architecture Date: 2 Feb 1994 20:13:32 GMT Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik und Wirtschaft, Reutlingen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ip1hc$pes@infoserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Does someone know the reason why the Proaudio card give problems when running on ISA architecture? I do not ask for a general explanation, we all know that appearently two DMA bus master give problems but for details about the why and how? Does the ISA bus block? Does the driver gets confused? Has someone run an ISA machine showing this problem connected to a hardware bus analyser? Thanks Frank
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: More advice... Message-ID: <1994Feb2.203221.21251@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 20:32:21 GMT I'm considering a specific system (now) and am wondering/hoping for some input. How does this sound: Ecesys 486/DX2-66 system Wingine 2mb board (VLB) 525mb SCSI HD & controller 17" monitor (apparently good Q) preinstalled NeXTStep 3.2 ...and the plastic is black!! (miniTower) $3940 -- does that sound like a good $ for the config? Is 525mb "enough" for a while (non-developer ver NS)??
From: robert_clark@ccm.hf.intel.com (Robert B. Clark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: ISA & SCSI systems Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:00:33 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Hillsboro, Oregon Distribution: world Message-ID: <robert_clark.39.2D502281@ccm.hf.intel.com> References: <2iore4$ous@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <2iore4$ous@ftp-p.mccaw.com> david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) writes: >From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary)>Subject: ISA & SCSI systems >Date: 2 Feb 1994 18:29:24 GMT > All of the ads that I've seen for systems with SCSI HDs come with EISA slots, >while IDE systems come with ISA slots. This seems to make sense to me, because >an IDE drive will be transferring data at 32 bits, as will an EISA controller >and SCSI HD. I think you mean IDE HDs have 16bit data bus, not 32. > My question is: does it make sense to couple a SCSI HD with an ISA >controller? The ISA controller will only be able to transfer data at 16 bits, >and therefore should be significantly slower than an EISA controller, correct? It really depends on your future applications. SCSI boards, either PCI, EISA or ISA can handle up to seven SCSI devices, whether they be HDs, CD-ROMs, Tape Backup units, whatever. Without special electronics, a IDE type system can't handle more than two IDE drives. But, SCSI is almost never on the motherboard. IDE often is these days, with either a standard ISA type connection or a newer PCI LB connection for Local Bus IDE capablity. You decide now, but it's your application that will decide in the future. -- Robert -I don't speak for Intel- >-- >// David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ... >// david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Robert B. Clark + + robert_clark@ccm.hf.intel.com + + --I do not speak for Intel-- + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (Dave) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Barest hardware requirements for Nextstep? Date: 2 Feb 1994 12:00:09 -0600 Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2iopn9$o46@menudo.uh.edu> Hi folks, I am a EE student on a small budget, but I want to try to dish out a few hundred bucks to try to see if I can get Nextstep OS to run in my room (that would be nice) However, I am not familar with the hardware requirements of Nextstep and was wondering if some of the NS gurus may be able to help me. I am not certain whether I am going to try to run NS full version or just the student version, depends on which pacakage I can afford/get cheaply. here is what I have(will have in about 1 week) and any pointers to what else I need would be greatly appreciated. note that, I am not looking for speed or performace, merely just for it to run, 486DLC-40 ISA W/FPU (does NS run with 486DLC? heard that it did not?????) an Ultrastor (22F?) ESDI caching controller W/ 320 meg Priam ESDI drive (chances are that NS will not support this, if so, can I just buy a 420 meg WD IDE drive?) 16 megs of RAM (minimum for NS right?) ET4000 card W/1meg (if this won't work, what's the least expensive ISA card that will work?) a also have a cheap 1024 X 768 SVGA monitor interlaced I believe. I am pretty good in the DOS hardware environment, so tech talk is fine, any response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. David Wang
From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.sun.wanted,misc.forsale.computers.workstation Subject: Re: FOR SALE: SCSI drives Date: 2 Feb 1994 19:49:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2ip03c$sao@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <2il15u$epp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> In <2il15u$epp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) writes: >I have two quantum drives for sale. I would like roughly a dollar a meg >for em. >Quantum 240 LPS, SCSI (256k cache?) only a few months old: $200 >Quantum 105 LPS, SCSI (64k cache?) about a year old: $100 These are INTERNAL DRIVES, people! The default for sales on the net is INTERNAL!!! -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Philip Brown, CIS major, UC Santa Cruz Author of "kdrill", and "xmandel" Winging my way out of academia soon... philb@cats.ucsc.edu philb@soda.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: c347a04@hawk.depaul.edu (Eric James Carlino) Subject: Bus Logic 445S VLB SCSI Drivers ??? Sender: news@hal.depaul.edu (News Admin) Organization: DePaul University, Chicago Il. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 23:07:15 GMT Message-ID: <1994Feb2.230715.24743@hal.depaul.edu> I just purchased a Bus Logic 445S which is a VLB SCSI adapter to be used with a SCSI hard drive and CD ROM drive. I had read NeXT's ANSWER sheet, which said the driver's for this adapter were due in Q4 93. Has anyone seen these? Where? Are there any other SCSI VLB adapters currently supported?
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nanao rebate Date: 2 Feb 1994 23:24:49 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2ipco1$d1e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I just got in the mail a coupon good for a $30-$100 rebate on Nanao monitors ($100 on the 17" F550i, 20" T660i, and 21" F760iW). I have no use for it. Anybody going to buy a Nanao monitor soon that can use it, drop me a line; you can have it free. -- Ciao, Stefano --- Stefano Pagiola Food Research Institute, Stanford University, Stanford CA 94305-6084 Tel 415-725-0939, Fax 415-725-7007 Email spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problems printing envelopes with NeXT printer. Date: 3 Feb 1994 01:04:03 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2ipf1j$9hs@alf.uib.no> I just bought a NeXT printer (thanks Sam!), and am trying it out today. I cannot seem to get envelopes to print. I am using standard A4 business envelopes (measure 22cm by 11cm). Yes, I've read the manual. And the FAQ. And NeXT Answers. I've tried setting paper size to both LTR and A4 without any luck. I have (so far) tried manual feed - I imagine that's the easiest to get to work. It seems that the envelope isn't drawn beyond the toner cartridge to the rollers that melt the toner - the envelope is left lying right in the middle of the bottom of the printer, under the toner cassette, with toner deposited correctly on the envelope. Could someone who has solved this or similar problem, or who knows how to fix this, please send me an e-mail? Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: carl@charles.Stanford.EDU (Carl T Bergstrom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 3 Feb 1994 00:50:42 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2iphp2$e91@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> jmazo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes:In comp.sys.next.hardware article <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> you wrote: > I am looking for a computer system that would fit the following > specifications for the least amount of money, and would like the collective > wisdom of the net on the subject of acquiring (pointers to sellers would be > appreciated as well) a computer with the following attributes: [Lots of specs snipped] > Basically, I am looking for a fairly powerful system, without color (but > possibility of adding it much later), and ability to expand later with things > like audio cards, tape drive, and joystick for my little brother to play his > games. Buying a few components separately and integrating them is not a > problem. > > You are welcome to mail me or to post; if there is interest I will mail or > post a summary of results. > This may be of general interest to the net so I'll go ahead and post. First of all, you'll need more like 24M RAM for a workable system. In my opinion, you would do well to check with one of the vendors specializing in assembling systems on which to run NSi. In particular, I found the people at Alpine Computing to be unusually knowledgable and helpful when I was buying a few NSi machines last month. You can get their catalog (which also can be very helpful in trying to pick the best components) via anonymous ftp from ftp.byu.edu in the /pub/next/alpine directory. (Disclaimer - I have no connection with Alpine other than being a satisfied customer.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Carl Bergstrom "On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog" carl@charles.stanford.edu -The New Yorker ------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Douglas B. Moore Subject: ADB on ND Turbo? Message-ID: <CKJwLu.FM@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: World Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:02:03 GMT Is it possible (and/or advisable) to upgrade the soundbox, keyboard, and mouse to the ADB versions on a ND Turbo? My ROM revision is 74. Has anyone done this? thanks, --- Douglas Moore 172 East Sixth Street #2106 St Paul, MN 55101 612-227-3274 dmoore@maroon.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: How do i plug a multisyncing monitor into a station? Message-ID: <1994Feb3.041935.29729@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 04:19:35 GMT I've gota Dell 17" Multisyncing monitor, and i'd like to plug it into a NeXTStation. Can this be done? ifTrue: how? (object-oriented posting; the wave of the future) thanks dan fineman@cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE In-Reply-To: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of Wed, 2 Feb 94 18:01:59 GMT To: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb2180936@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994Feb2.180159.11502@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 23:09:35 GMT In article <1994Feb2.180159.11502@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: I am calling around and pricing different Intel systems on which to run NeXTStep -- and I'm often finding that SCSI controller/drive (approx. 530mb) costs near $1000 more than IDE equivalent. Is there THAT much difference in sys speed by using IDE instead of SCSI?? And I do know that SCSI-CDROM is needed for initial install. A 530 MByte SCSI hard disk costs about $500-$600, only slightly (if at all) more than a comparable IDE disk. It is true that you'll have to buy an SCSI controller to use with it but you can get a NS compatible one for about $150-$200 and you'll need one for the CD-ROM drive anyway. People who ask $1k more for an SCSI system than for the equivalent IDE system are either technically ignorant or are trying to cheat you -- in either case you should not deal with them. But by all means do get an SCSI system. Carl Edman
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A Great Idea Whose Time Has Come!!! (not MINE : -) Date: 3 Feb 94 04:49:12 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.760250952@uiuc.edu> References: <1994Feb1.065607.14517@talus.com> Steve Sarich III writes: >To add to their problems, most of the hardware design in their companies >has centered around Windoz development. I think there are other factors to consider as well, such as the lack of commonly-used and recognized apps for NS is "where the apps aren't". I don't know many people who would purchase a machine just to run an OS, most everyone I know has some idea of what they want their computer to do and they don't want to struggle or put in lots of time to get what they want. They've got the money to pay for good quality programs, and NS simply doesn't have what they want. A key app is a good word processor. All NS advocates can say is "wait and see". Well, "wait and see" doesn't sell NS, in fact it makes it a laughing stock among those that have work to do and want to get it done. As much slamming as "Windoz" and DOS receives around these NS groups, it has a larger userbase than NS ever has and runs big name, highly visible and important apps that NS doesn't. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why NS (even on Intel, the most affordable NS platform) is not the choice of 100,000 users [I get that figure from a recent NeXTReview interview with a NeXT rep. who said that NS has under a 100k installed base]. >We can't show enough sales of NeXTSTEP compatible machines to justify the >support of NeXTSTEP drivers and we can't justify the expense of writing >drivers unless we have sales. I'd guess the majority of NS software houses are virtual nobodys outside of NS. Compaq, Dell and NCR are far from being nobody, so quite simply, they're not going to budge. If they don't want to help the NS effort, they aren't going to lose any money by not helping. The software developers, on the other hand, are in a tight bind (just like the bind described in the quoted material). If there's nobody to buy the NS apps, NS software houses suffer financially. As time goes by and more people don't choose NS, it becomes harder for small-time developers making apps for a small-time OS to be recognized. The customer can choose not to run NS. Contrary to the case of the NS software developer, and more like the Intel hardware manufacturer, they're not going to lose by not choosing NS since there are plenty of solutions with other OSs; NS does not exist in a vacuum. In my opinion, this means it's up to the software developer to make a userbase for themselves. The prospective customer and the Intel hardware dealer isn't losing any sleep over the loss of some NS software house, they've got other interests going that will keep them busy for a while. In short, I agree that hardware support is needed and important, but there's other things to look for also like software support. Maybe a grass-roots effort like this could be extended to include software developers like Quark (even if Jobs can't control his tongue or temper), Microsoft (like it or not, Word has absolutely no competition on NS and never has), WordPerfect (maybe, somehow, we can get them to change their mind. It happened on the Amiga with an equally capable port.) and Frame, just to name a few movers and shakers in the word processing and DTP community. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thssjxy@iitmax.iit.edu (Yong Yoo) Subject: ByteBenchmark test result. Message-ID: <1994Feb3.054037.5379@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 05:40:37 GMT This is NeXTStep 3.2 on 486DX50 with 32 ram, adaptec 1542B controller, Seagate 1.4 gig scsi drive, ATI pro VESA with 2 meg (1024x768 with 65000 color). BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) System -- f40 Start Benchmark Run: Wed Feb 2 21:22:38 CST 1994 2 interactive users. Dhrystone 2 without register variables 43253.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Dhrystone 2 using register variables 43223.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 93824.8 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = register) 6422.0 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = short) 5881.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = int) 6433.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = long) 6435.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = float) 3744.8 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = double) 3743.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) System Call Overhead Test 11145.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe Throughput Test 4337.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1977.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Process Creation Test 68.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Execl Throughput Test 57.9 lps (9 secs, 6 samples) File Read (10 seconds) 23430.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Write (10 seconds) 600.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (10 seconds) 422.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Read (30 seconds) 23306.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Write (30 seconds) 454.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (30 seconds) 406.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) C Compiler Test 35.8 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 45.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 24.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 12.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 6.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 1692.7 lpm (60 secs, 6 samples) Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 542.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) /backup/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/21901.dat INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 3743.5 1.4 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 6435.7 2.3 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 6422.0 2.3 C Compiler Test 24.1 35.8 1.5 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 43253.1 1.8 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 57.9 2.4 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 406.0 0.8 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 23306.0 1.3 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 454.0 0.8 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 1977.7 1.7 Process Creation Test 34.0 68.7 2.0 Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 542.6 1.7 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 6.0 1.6 ========= SUM of 13 items 21.4 AVERAGE 1.6
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Video Message-ID: <1994Feb3.052312.25476@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 05:23:12 GMT Couple of questions here.... In a system I'm looking at, there is a bundled 2mb Wingine board -- does that have a good speed?? Is it fast on a 486/66 machine?? Also -- As I understand it, NeXT 16-bit color (which this board supports) is 12-bit color + 4-bit translucency. Now, that 12-bit color is 4096 colors out of a palette of 4096, right??? I had thought that it was 4096 colors (onscreen) out of 16.8mill or at least 64K colors. How does a 12-bit workspace look??? JPEG/TIFF viewing would be rather limited in its display w/ only a 4096-color palette, wouldn't it?? Could someone perhaps email me a uuencoded JPEG (not TIFF) of a 12-bit workspace?? I'd REALLY appreciat ethis -- as I'm NEAR buying a system (ecesys I think). Any info appreciated! Thanks!! bp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ml@tsiny.psca.com Subject: Re: 10baseT pin configuration Message-ID: <1994Jan31.202438.15211@tsiny.psca.com> Sender: usenet@tsiny.psca.com Organization: TSI of New York, Inc. Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 20:24:38 GMT I believe that the 10BaseT port on NeXT uses the 1-2-3 and 6 pins. (I haven't made cable in a while, apologies if I am incorrect.) Isn't this 10BaseT standard? later mark -- Mark LeScoezec Paradigm Systems System Administrator (212)850-8135 ml@ny.psca.com 666 Third Ave NeXTmail/MIME okay NY, NY 10017 In comp.sys.next.hardware article <CKIBvI.2oH@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> you wrote: > I looked through the faq list and could not find anything on this. Does > anyone know what the pin configuration is for the 8pin RJ45S 10baseT > ethernet connection on a NeXTstation? Thank you. > > Renata Dart, renata@slac.stanford.edu > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Dead Printer Message-ID: <UFNLB4KK@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <1994Feb1.235007.17328@math.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 08:53:28 GMT Paul Fan (fan@sonia.math.ucla.edu) wrote: > Greetings, > I have a friend who killed his NeXT b/w printer by running it > from an European outlet (220v) without first flipping the > inside switch. Does anyone know whether there is likely to > be an easy fix to this problem? > He is in Europe and he would like to know whether he should > just junk the printer or bring it back to be fixed. Depends where he is in europe. He could ask Bell Atlantic Europe (Sorbus) to check, what's wrong. But that's not cheap. I wouldn't junk the printer, if e.g. he can get hold of another broken one, he could just mix the parts to make one working one. BTW, he can still sell the printer in europe, he should get a much better price than in the states. The worst case would be a really broken power supply, as Bell Atlantic charges about DM 800 == $480 for it :-( But you'd still make some profit if you repair/sell it. Prices are higher here because it's annoying to ship something from the states, UPS, FedEx, ... charge you a fortune. Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Date: 01 Feb 1994 22:01:00 +0100 From: bernd@xtreme.sh.sub.org (Bernd Christiansen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <5I1k7QddpWA@xtreme.sh.sub.org> Subject: CONFIGURATION Hi !! Does it make any sense in practice to use NextStep 3.2 with the following hardware ... INTEL 486DX2/66 Vesa Local Bus 16 MB RAM 500 MB Harddisk Hercules Dynamite Pro 2 MB VL ??? Please give a fair answer ! Thanks !! Bernd Christiansen University of Hamburg, Germany ## CrossPoint v2.1 ##
From: rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 3 Feb 1994 10:41:32 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> With all this talking about the Gecko - while NSfHP is still a good deal away (4/94 is announced which probably means 1/95), there's something that bothers me right now: German 'iX' magazine testet the Gecko in their latest issue. The credo was quite positive, except for the OS (wait 'till NS comes :-}), they reported the price for a 19 " Monitor 1 GB HD 32 MB RAM Machine to be about 33,000 DM (about $ 20.000, given $1 = 1.6 DM)! The display is quite expensive, but even with $ 5000 for a 19" Screen, what is this talking about a new low-cost RISC machine? Or am I, again, living in the wrong country. (I could tell You stories about german pricing :~(( ) Any comments, corrections or any weeping to do? Rainer Frohnhoefer at UNIWUE ------------------------------- "I came to a building with a sign: 'PET STORE'. But I didn't know how to ..." rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: herbert@cwi.nl (Herbert Wiklicky) Subject: Need Intel driver software for Dove fax modem Message-ID: <CKnF7L.FEy@cwi.nl> Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 12:40:32 GMT -- About one and a half year ago I bought a Dove Fax Modem for my 68040 NeXT Cube. Currently I am transfering my work to a Intel 486 based NeXTSTEP environment. Therefore, I would like to use the modem on the white hardware. Unfortunately, the driver software I got is just for the black hardware and (as test show) I can't use the standard Class II mode driver supplied with NeXTSTEP 3.2. I am also unable to fix it somehow myself, because I got no technical documentation for the Dove fax modem. Therefore: Does someone know about a Dove fax modem driver for the NeXTSTEP on the Intel 486? or Does soemone know about the technical details of the Dove fax modem (instruction code, class etc.), or how to get these informations? (e.g. does Dove still exist?) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Herbert Wiklicky Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica (CWI) email: herbert@cwi.nl Kruislaan 413, Postbus 94079 fax: +31 20 592 4199 1090 GB Amsterdam phone: +31 20 592 4074 The Netherlands ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Message-ID: <1994Feb3.125621.28147@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews) Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 12:56:21 GMT Rainer Frohnhoefer (rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote: : German 'iX' magazine testet the Gecko in their latest issue. The credo was quite : positive, except for the OS (wait 'till NS comes :-}), they reported the price for : a 19 " Monitor : 1 GB HD : 32 MB RAM Machine to be about 33,000 DM (about $ 20.000, given $1 = 1.6 DM)! : The display is quite expensive, but even with $ 5000 for a 19" Screen, what is : this talking about a new low-cost RISC machine? : Or am I, again, living in the wrong country. (I could tell You stories about : german pricing :~(( ) : Any comments, corrections or any weeping to do? : The basic 712/60 with 16MB, 15" color monitor, 240? MB disc and 1024x768 maximum resolution sells for under 11,000 DM (about $6000, still too much compared to the $4000 in the USA). The machine tested in the iX had 64 MB RAM and additional VRAM to display 1280x1024 (and as you said a 19" display and a 1 GB HD) Now given HP's avantgardistic prices for addons, let's take $5000 for the 19" display, another $5000 for the additional 48 MB RAM, $1500 for the VRAM expansion and $1500 for the HD, you're already at $19000. I think you'd better buy a blank Gecko and get the addons for realistic prices at a third party ;-) Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) Subject: What video card do 16 bit colour ? Message-ID: <boonlow.760283852@sfu.ca> Summary: what to buy if run 16 bit colour for NSFIP ? Keywords: video card, 16 bit colour Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news) Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 13:57:32 GMT Hey there, I need to get a VESA Bus video card that would do 16 bit colour under NSFIP. I have read the faq but can't find the info I wanted. Can someone please recommend/suggest video cards that they have run successfully under NSFIP ? Apparently, I know that ATI, S3 and ET4000 ( I think ?? ) chip set video cards would do fine under NeXTSTEP. I am planning to get a Hercules VL Pro 2mb dram video card but is 2mb of dram enough for 16 bit colours ? Do I need vram to run 16 bit colours ? I know I'm being paranoid abit but after spending tons of money and buying the wrong stuff .. sign... :-( I need to be sure before I pour another 200-300 dollars for a ET400 video card. Thanks alot for any help and suggestions. Regards, Ben.
From: colo%eminor.UUCP@tanuki.twics.com (Illan Colombick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Small favour needed from 3.2er Date: 3 Feb 1994 08:41:12 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402032327.AA00376@eminor> Hello people. Please, can someone let me know whether they can send me the NS/Intel 3.2 Adaptec 154X driver? My 3.1 won't work with my slightly newer 1542CF controller, but your 3.2 will. There's no 3.2 update in the mail for me, so please, can you save me the hassle of trading in my hardware by mailing me the driver. Let me know first though, by e-mail to colo@twics.com News, and other addresses in my header, are as yet not reliable. Appreciate it, -Illan %%% COLO colo@twics.com possibly NextMail to colo@eminor.twics.com \_/
From: Trevor Pokorney <tp1j+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Boot Problems Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 09:29:55 -0500 Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ghIEdXi00YUo0kEK8e@andrew.cmu.edu> I have a NeXT ColorStation running NeXTStep 3.0 and I am having problems with my boot procedure (hard or cold). The init program runs through the /etc/rc.boot script and the /etc/rc script just fine. (I have tested this by making changes to /etc/rc.local and seeing that the changes work properly.) But, before running the loginwindow program, I experience about a 5 minute delay. After the delay, the rest of the boot process (which is only the login) runs fine. This delay would not bother so much, but I have two more problems that arose at the same time, and therefore I assume they are related: 1) The DSP is not available to play sounds, and 2) The Operating System does not recognize my DOS disks. My 3.0 OS is installed on an external drive, so I booted directly from my slab (which has version 2.1). The slab gave me no delays, the DSP works well, and the OS recognizes my DOS disks. So, there seems to be no problems with the hardware. I have SoFTPC on my external drive. Thinking that this may have caused some problems (yeah, I was fishing), I deinstalled it. But, nothing improved. Any ideas? Has anyone had similar problems? More importantly, has anyone corrected similar problems? Could there be some daemon which is start during bootup (and possibly relates to the DSP) which is not running properly and which eventually times out? I guess I am fishing, again. Thanks in advance for your help, Trevor Pokorney
From: shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca (Geoff Shukin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ProAudio Basic Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:15:52 GMT Organization: SIAST Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ir4f8$647@tribune.usask.ca> I am wondering what the final word on the ProAudio Spectrum Basic is. It lists NeXTstep on the box. Does it work well? At all? I have a ISA Bus system and a Bug Logic 542b SCSI Card (IRQ 11, DMA 5). Can I use this card under NeXTstep? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Geoff Shukin | _ ___ Analyst | |\ | |_ \/ | step NeXT User and Proud of it. | | \| |_ /\ | rules! Linux --> Beats Dos and M$ | My opinions are just that Voice: (306) 933-6415 | NeXTMail--> shukin@siast.sk.ca Fax: (306) 933-6490 | EMail --> shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca ______________________________________________________________________________
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1GB in Stations Date: 3 Feb 1994 14:56:40 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <2ir3b8$ajk@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Keywords: Heat problems, power supply We are currently fitting some NeXTstations (non-turbos) with 1GB discs internally. Our concerns are: 1) Heat 2) Power supply Anyone have any experience with it? Thanks Alfred -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Speed-Up of Stations Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:03:14 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <2ir3ni$av8@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Keywords: Speed, Ram Has anyone speeded-up old NeXTstations (non-turbos)? Can it be done, should it be done? We own two kinds of older stations, one version already has the 72pin Simm slots. Can that be upgraded to (from 8 * 4mB to 4 * 16mB in oder words)? Thanks for help. Alfred -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Adaptex 1542cf - software? Message-ID: <CKn51s.Etz@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2ik0nbINNbr6@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 09:01:04 GMT In article <2ik0nbINNbr6@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien), Department of Mental Hygiene, Johns Hopkins University writes: >This is a simple question but no vendor can answer it. In order to use an >adaptec 1452 cf to install NS Intel 3.2 do I need to spend $50 more for >their "Master" kit (software drivers for all sorts of SCSI devices) or >just the bare card? Just the bare drive and a good cable. >Thanks, You're welcome... -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Monitors Message-ID: <CKn5GD.F54@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <1994Feb2.053557.13684@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 09:09:49 GMT In article <1994Feb2.053557.13684@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: > I am wondering if, in general, 15" monitors can do better than 1024x768 >screenres. Some can. A very nice one is the new ViewSonic 15FS (.27 dot, energy saving, inexpensive and 1280x1024 at 60Hz, 1024x768 at 76Hz). It's really nice for such an inexpensive monitor ( list $5xx). Works with a Mac too. I have a ViewSonic17G which is just the right size. Things look just like they used to on my Cube. Now if NeXT would only come out with an ET4000win32i driver. [ ] -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS Message-ID: <CKnKME.5tt@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Keywords: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS Organization: VE6MGS Gateway References: <CKK2As.DA1@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> <2ip2t0$ap0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:37:25 GMT lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) writes: >>486/66 VL-BUS with AMI bios >>AHA 1542cf (floppy drive attached to 1542) >As far as I am informed, the floppy controller on the adaptec is not >supported! You will need an separate floppy controller... It works in any case for me, and amazingly enough, on the ASUS 486/VL-BUS board I am using ... I did install 3.1 initially using a cheap ($15) IDE/FD card, with IDE disabled, and did not investigate the 1542C FD controller. I did this because of the warning on the Hardware docs and too much spare time on my hands. 3.0 installed without a hitch using the 1542B FD when we tried it, but we could not get a `typical' serial mouse to give us any joy after the system was up ... (3.1 was picked up days later ...) Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: Re: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS Message-ID: <CKnLMq.69s@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Keywords: Installation problems with NS3.2 on ASUS 486/VL-BUS Organization: VE6MGS Gateway References: <CKK2As.DA1@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:59:14 GMT karsten.wolf@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf) writes: }PostMaster} karsten.wolf@hrz.uni-giessen.de: No such host: hrz.uni-giessen.de :-( >486/66 VL-BUS with AMI bios >AHA 1542cf (floppy drive attached to 1542) >8 mb ram >s3/805-video card with 1mb dram >500 mb scsi hd >Apple CD 150 similar to my own, except a I have the ATI ultra Pro video card and a CDU8012 Sony drive (the hardware of the CD150, but a different EPROM forcing 512bytes/transfer). My first installation used an external Floppy Controller rather than using the 1542C to talk to the floppy. The hardware docs state that the 1542 floppy drive port is not supported (but I now use it to get the slot back since it does appear to work reliably in any case, but as I stated, I did not use it on initial installation). >Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot >Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 >Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 >unexpected kernel trap d eip 1627a1 >Failed instruction exception (2,d,460000) >Waiting for remote debugger connection >(Type c to continue or r to reboot) No idea, sorry :-( >486/66 VL-BUS with AMI bios >AHA 1542cf (floppy drive attached to 1542) >16 mb ram >s3/805-video card with 1 mb dram >1,2 GB scsi hd >audioblaster 16asp >videospigot >internal cd rom drive XM-3401B >hp scsi dat tape Remove all unneccessary hardware and try again. The hardware doc clearly states that it is far better to install unnecessary (audio, spigots, SCSI tapes serial ports etc) hardware after the installation. This is partly due to the fact that the boot kernel is *not* so careful about it's configuration I would guess! >:thread: waitForInterrupt:returns -735 This means one of your pieces of hardware is creating an Interrupt, and the Kernel is not prepared for it. The IO_R_NO_INTERRUPT error, which this number embodies, clearly states that no interrupt port is attached to the specific IRQ. Once again, remove *any* hardware, and read the hardware installation documentation (from NeXTAnswers) about your specific hardware combinations as they have a good set of hand holding rules, and give specific configuration notes and dip switch settings. Ciao -- Mark
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Monitors Date: 3 Feb 1994 16:31:36 GMT Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Message-ID: <2ir8t8$255@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <CKn5GD.F54@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <CKn5GD.F54@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > In article <1994Feb2.053557.13684@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: > > I am wondering if, in general, 15" monitors can do better than 1024x768 > >screenres. > > Some can. A very nice one is the new ViewSonic 15FS (.27 dot, energy > saving, inexpensive and 1280x1024 at 60Hz, 1024x768 at 76Hz). It's really > nice for such an inexpensive monitor ( list $5xx). Works with a Mac too. I > have a ViewSonic17G which is just the right size. Things look just like they > used to on my Cube. Now if NeXT would only come out with an ET4000win32i > driver. > >I think you may find that 1280x1024 on a 15" monitor will ruin your eyes because everything will be so small. It would be worth taking a look at this before spending any money on it. Jay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) Subject: ByteBechmark test Results for GW P5-60 Sender: news@percy.rain.com (John Cavanaugh) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 16:04:36 GMT Message-ID: <CKnonp.5y9@percy.rain.com> Here are the results for a GW P5-60 running @ 1152x864 16bit miroCrystal 32s PCI BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) System -- eps Start Benchmark Run: Sat Jan 29 11:17:49 PST 1994 2 interactive users. Dhrystone 2 without register variables 83088.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Dhrystone 2 using register variables 86204.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 273806.8 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = register) 8965.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = short) 8314.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = int) 8934.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = long) 8951.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = float) 10490.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = double) 10490.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) System Call Overhead Test 22278.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe Throughput Test 10783.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching Test 2914.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Process Creation Test 89.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Execl Throughput Test 79.4 lps (9 secs, 6 samples) File Read (10 seconds) 40234.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Write (10 seconds) 400.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (10 seconds) 378.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Read (30 seconds) 40817.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Write (30 seconds) 400.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (30 seconds) 375.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) C Compiler Test 50.1 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 59.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 32.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 16.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 8.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 2234.1 lpm (60 secs, 6 samples) Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 1361.0 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) /steve/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/28487.dat INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 10490.6 3.9 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 8951.2 3.2 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 8965.1 3.1 C Compiler Test 24.1 50.1 2.1 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 83088.7 3.4 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 79.4 3.4 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 375.0 0.7 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 40817.0 2.2 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 400.0 0.7 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 2914.7 2.5 Process Creation Test 34.0 89.2 2.6 Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 1361.0 4.2 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 8.0 2.1 ========= SUM of 13 items 34.1 AVERAGE 2.6 -- Steve Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com NeXTmail OK..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) Subject: what's different between daud rate and speed ? Message-ID: <CKnq3B.4FA@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Sender: news@noose.ecn.purdue.edu (USENET news) Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 16:35:34 GMT Hi, I have a stupid problem. I got a modemn with 14400 baud rate but I can run it at "57600 speed" under TipTop. What is the different between "baud rate " and "spee" ? Thanks, Chun-Yen ps: Is there any version of kermit can run at speed 57600 ?
From: buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bastian Schlueter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 03 Feb 1994 17:04:40 GMT Organization: Berlin University of Technology Message-ID: <2irara$cs@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de's message of 03 Feb 1994 11:41:32 MET In article <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes: [...] > German 'iX' magazine testet the Gecko in their latest issue. The credo was quite > positive, except for the OS (wait 'till NS comes :-}), they reported the price for > > a 19 " Monitor > 1 GB HD > 32 MB RAM Machine to be about 33,000 DM (about $ 20.000, given $1 = 1.6 DM)! > > The display is quite expensive, but even with $ 5000 for a 19" Screen, what is > this talking about a new low-cost RISC machine? > Or am I, again, living in the wrong country. (I could tell You stories about > german pricing :~(( ) > > Any comments, corrections or any weeping to do? Hello, In the same magazine is an ad from HP for the gecko (712/60) 16MB RAM, 260MB Disk, 15" color monitor at 10.235,- DM. Which corresponds to 2.56DM per Dollar given the 3999$ for the same machine in the US :-( Greetings Bastian -- Bastian Schlueter TEL.: +49 030 / 693 49 26 (priv) Urbanstr. 25 Aufg. E 691 54 79 (Fax/Data) __o D-10967 Berlin 314 25 973 (uni) _`\<,_ Germany e-mail: buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (_)/ (_)
Control: cancel <CKKLnI.EtK@news.cis.umn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Kevin Low) Subject: cancel <CKKLnI.EtK@news.cis.umn.edu> Message-ID: <CKnupC.J41@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8704] Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 18:11:30 GMT Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 3 Feb 1994 10:17:22 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Message-ID: <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu> References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> In article <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes: > With all this talking about the Gecko - while NSfHP is still a good deal away >(4/94 is announced which probably means 1/95), there's something that bothers me >right now: Has 4/94 actually been announced? Not just rumored? > German 'iX' magazine testet the Gecko in their latest issue. The credo was quite >positive, except for the OS (wait 'till NS comes :-}), they reported the price for > >a 19 " Monitor > 1 GB HD > 32 MB RAM Machine to be about 33,000 DM (about $ 20.000, given $1 = 1.6 DM)! > >The display is quite expensive, but even with $ 5000 for a 19" Screen, what is >this talking about a new low-cost RISC machine? >Or am I, again, living in the wrong country. (I could tell You stories about >german pricing :~(( ) > > Any comments, corrections or any weeping to do? 19" monitors are expensive. And HP's hard disk prices are steep. Here in the US, the 19" monitor lists for US$3800, the 1GB disk for US$2100. The base machine (no memory, no disk, no monitor) is US$2085. I've been pricing Pentium machines, and with HP's academic discounting, we can get a comparably equiped Gecko for less money than a Gateway or Dell PC. Even if you can't get the academic discount, there are 3rd party dealers who will give a good discount from HP's list prices. cheers, --mike
From: pvinson@gryphon Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1742/P9000 Date: 03 Feb 94 10:55:10 Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, U.S.A. Distribution: fj Message-ID: <pvinson.94Feb3105510@gryphon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Yeah! I finally got 3.2! Two questions: Since the Adaptec 1742 EISA SCSI card uses the 1542 driver, is there any point (performance increase) to switching from the 1542 to 1742 card? (I have both). Any news on the driver for the P9000 cards? Specifically for the Orchid P9000? The Hard. Comp. Guide just says "Q1 1994"...anybody heard anything more? NS Rules!
From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.graphics Subject: MAG DX17F Monitor Date: 3 Feb 1994 18:36:27 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2irg7b$s7d@ftp-p.mccaw.com> I'm looking for some specs, and perhaps subjective reviews on the new MAG DX17F monitor. I'd also like to know where I can get one, and what price they're going for. Thanks. -- // David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ... // david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: miguele@mestrada (Miguel Estrada) Subject: Will NeXTStep 3.1 or 3.2 run in this config? Message-ID: <CKnvzF.151@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 18:42:50 GMT AMI EnterpriseIII 486-66 with 20MB RAM AMI FastSCSI II Cache EISA Controller (emulates either 1542 or Buslogic) Viper VLB 2MB Toshiba 4401 CDROM I installed NS31 at one point with no problems, but had to uninstall it because I could not use it in VGA unaccelerated res. I have 3.1 for Intel. Is the upgrade to 3.2 free? Does it include the Viper driver? How do I get driver info? Someone please email me a faq on this subject. Please let me know by email -> Miguel_Estrada@crd.lotus.com Thanks. Miguel Disclaimer: These are my comments only.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb) Subject: SCSI tape drives N/S 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Feb3.001921.11021@bnlux1.bnl.gov> Summary: How do you hang one on? Keywords: Tape, SCSI Sender: Ben Sternlieb N/S beginner Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 00:19:21 GMT Hi, I've got a 4mm drive from my Mac days that I want to hang of an Adaptec SCSI card. However, unlike my CD drive, which just appears on it's own in the Workspace when I insert a disk, I cann't seem to make my machine recognize the tape drive. Is there a driver for this thing ? Does it need to be installed somewhere? Any clues would be appreciated, Ben _____________________________________________________________________________ Ben Sternlieb Neutron Scattering Group BNL E-mail: generic Unix: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov NextMail: bens@bleak.phy.bnl.gov tel: (516)282-3817 _____________________________________________________________________________
From: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us (Lawrence S. Kroll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: printer cartridges and scanner probs Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:49:08 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402032133.AA03213@sisnext.uucp> Please advise on: 1) source of spare cartridges for the NeXT color printer 2) scanner driver that runs a Microtek 300G scanner
From: si@sisnext.sf.ca.us (Lawrence S. Kroll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: LabelMaker Date: 3 Feb 1994 15:49:10 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402032138.AA03219@sisnext.uucp> I have a SmartLabel Printer Plus I used on my Mac. Is there software that will run it on the NeXT?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: richard@silber.rhein-main.de (Richard Scholz) Subject: Re: reqd.: faster ethernet card Message-ID: <1994Feb2.225505.1879@silber.rhein-main.de> Sender: richard@silber.rhein-main.de (Richard Scholz) Organization: (none) References: <9401302216.AA28454@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:55:05 GMT In article <9401302216.AA28454@dcs.shef.ac.uk> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) writes: > Hi, > > I have an Intel EtherExpress 16 on an ISA machine (Logisys, :-( ). > IMHO it appears to be very slow... :-( > > (1) As far as I'm aware it's set up correctly -- can anybody tell me if > there is any way to set it up I might not know about that gives better > response? Yes, there is one setting, which might improve performance: Set it to use memory mapped I/O. You should set the size of the mapped memory to 32K. This setting can only be done by booting DOS (sigh) and then using the softset program, which is included with the ethernet card. Configure.app doesn't let you do this. Richard
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what's different between daud rate and speed ? Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 16:14:21 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <IhIKYh200WBN89=OZO@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CKnq3B.4FA@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 3-Feb-94 what's different between da.. by Chun-Yen Kuo@orchid.ecn. > I have a stupid problem. I got a modemn with 14400 baud rate but I can > run it at "57600 speed" under TipTop. What is the different between "baud > rate " and "speed" ? All it means is that you can send data to the modem faster than the modem can send data across the phone line. This is fine, and means that you'll see a little less overhead from using your modem, but it doesn't really matter that much. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: grisu (Gernot A. Pohl) Subject: Driver for WD-Paradise? Message-ID: <1994Feb3.115643.1910@utata.in-berlin.de> Sender: grisu@utata.in-berlin.de Organization: WY Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 11:56:43 GMT Is there any NS-driver for WD90C33-Paradise graphic adapter? the et4000 driver did it not. -- [NeXT-]Mail to grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de .. viel Spasz! > Gernot Pohl \_/ Schoenhauser Allee 5
From: icardena@ih-nxt05.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Is anyone willing to part with their... Date: 3 Feb 1994 23:00:32 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2irvmg$fel@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: help upgrade Hello. I have been in the market for a new system and I came across a system that'd I'd like to buy only there's a couple things: 1) I'll need an '040 upgrade board. (Does Shperical Solutions still have any? How would I get in touch with them?) 2) I'll need to get NeXTstep 3.2 I wanted to know if anyone has these to offer me. I also would like to know if I can take the RAM from the '030 (16MB) and install it on the '040 board. If someone would like to sell me an upgrade board then I would also need instructions as to how to install, etc. Thanx, Ian PS A NextDimension board would be nice...just a bit out of my price range :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall) Subject: Re: Black Hardware Monitor Replacement Message-ID: <1994Feb3.225227.10509@news.cs.brandeis.edu> Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Brandeis University References: <CKLBux.C3J@csn.org> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 22:52:27 GMT In article <CKLBux.C3J@csn.org> mxedisn@teal.csn.org (David C. Whitcombe) writes: > I own a '040 cube (with buckets of ram and stuff) and my 17" megapixel is > starting to get tired. Specifically, when darkness (as in the blackness of > a key-window's title bar) is superimposed over non-darkness (like the file > viewer) then I see a light smudge propigating to the right. We, too, are having monitor problems. In our case, its likely that the crt needs to be replaced as reading the screen is difficult--very dim and brightness adjustments do not work. i understand this is a tosiba crt. can anyone recomment a good third party source for the crt. thanks, brendan
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on a Quadra Date: 3 Feb 1994 23:21:28 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2is0to$ak5@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2hk5me$4hj@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> > On the contrary, I support your claim, and I will go so far as to say that > there have been confirmed rumors of NEXTSTEP running on Mac Quadras for > quite some time. The story goes that a NeXT engineer got NEXTSTEP up and > running on a Quadra over a weekend - at home nonetheless. Interpret > this as you may, but there is no question Mac hardware and NeXT hardware > have similar characteristics, and if the memory management and driver > issues are well handled, there is no reason why NEXTSTEP cannot run > on a Quadra. > > As far as being able to purchase it, that is another question. I believe > it would be in NeXT's best interest to support Mac hardware if they get > it running good enough. Additional income is always welcome, as long as it > is not a support nightmare. Realistically, I believe that NEXTSTEP on > PowerPC Macs might be a more believable scenario. NEXTSTEP currently runs > on PowerPC in the labs, and there is no question these chips are powerful > enough. > > Eric > If NeXTstep is eventually ported to a PowerPC, how about new PowerPC motherboards for black hardware, with switches to a Mac/DOS os like the PowerPC Mac? One can dream...... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? In-Reply-To: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de's message of Thu, 3 Feb 94 12:56:21 GMT To: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb3095423@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <1994Feb3.125621.28147@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:54:22 GMT In article <1994Feb3.125621.28147@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: Rainer Frohnhoefer (rainer@cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de) wrote: : German 'iX' magazine testet the Gecko in their latest issue. The : credo was quite positive, except for the OS (wait 'till NS comes : :-}), they reported the price for : a 19 " Monitor : 1 GB HD : 32 MB RAM Machine to be about 33,000 DM : (about $ 20.000, given $1 = 1.6 DM)! : The display is quite expensive, but even with $ 5000 for a 19" : Screen, what is this talking about a new low-cost RISC machine? : Or am I, again, living in the wrong country. (I could tell You : stories about german pricing :~(( ) : Any comments, corrections or any weeping to do? The basic 712/60 with 16MB, 15" color monitor, 240? MB disc and 1024x768 maximum resolution sells for under 11,000 DM (about $6000, still too much compared to the $4000 in the USA). The machine tested in the iX had 64 MB RAM and additional VRAM to display 1280x1024 (and as you said a 19" display and a 1 GB HD) Now given HP's avantgardistic prices for addons, let's take $5000 for the 19" display, another $5000 for the additional 48 MB RAM, $1500 for the VRAM expansion and $1500 for the HD, you're already at $19000. Have you checked for academic discounts ? They vary from university to university and I do not know how common they are in the Federal Republic, but an HP rep at at least one US university with a good relationship with HP has confirmed a price of $2.6k for a base configuration HP Gecko. I know that at least some German universities have bought more than enough HP hardware to justify discounts like that. I think you'd better buy a blank Gecko and get the addons for realistic prices at a third party ;-) Absolutely. You can get a first rate 21 inch monitor for about $2k and an extremely fast barracuda 2.1 GByte SCSI drive for another $2k. Add another $1k or so for a reasonable amount of RAM from a third party and you get a system which is in every way superior to the one above for less than $8k. Carl Edman
Control: cancel <1994Feb1.213609.15675@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kurt@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us (Kurt Werle) Subject: cancel Message-ID: <1994Feb3.232859.10930@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> Organization: Little to None Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 23:28:59 GMT <1994Feb1.213609.15675@frsvnsvn.irvine.ca.us> was cancelled from within trn.
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DECpc XL--incredible performance Date: 3 Feb 1994 16:56:17 -0700 Organization: University of Utah Computer Center, Salt Lake City, Ut. Message-ID: <2is2v1$5e@u.cc.utah.edu> I received my first XL today. It's a 466d2 with onboard PCI scsi and a Diamond Viper 2 MB video card. This is--bar none--the fastest PC I/O I've ever had my hands on; and it looks like the Viper card is a very fast Windows accelerator. I haven't loaded NS/I on the system yet; I just took it out of the box, added the components, and turned it on. I have some very fast PCs around my shop, and I've never seen any of them write to or read from the disk that fast. The Diamond Viper looks like it ought to give the Wingine a run for its money. I don't know yet for sure, as I have to get the NS/I driver for Viper first. I'll post back when I find something out. I did hear that S3-928 cards running on PCI buses on other pentiums were benching close to Wingines, so it wouldn't surprise me if the Viper also came close. Anyone else out there got any results yet? ...........................................kris
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nanao rebate Date: 3 Feb 1994 17:03:58 -0700 Organization: University of Utah Computer Center, Salt Lake City, Ut. Message-ID: <2is3de$12e@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <2ipco1$d1e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <2ipco1$d1e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@leland.stanford.edu> wrote: >I just got in the mail a coupon good for a $30-$100 rebate on Nanao >monitors ($100 on the 17" F550i, 20" T660i, and 21" F760iW). I have >no use for it. Anybody going to buy a Nanao monitor soon that can >use it, drop me a line; you can have it free. > >-- >Ciao, Stefano I too have tons of these coupons. I'm thinking of scanning one and dropping it on my FTP site. If anyone wants one I will do exactly that. Or grab one from kind Stefano. ...............................kris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: andylee@retina.cs.ucla.edu (Andy Lee) Subject: What to do with dead Segate 200 meg? Message-ID: <1994Feb04.001734.14878@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 94 00:17:34 GMT Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department The internal Segate 200 meg in my slab is dead. I don't know when exactly that it died, because I used it only as a swap drive. And last night I noticed this message during boot: Segate <blah blah blah> Waiting for drive to become ready. ......... Then I heard the drive spined down, and the boot went on. I tried to mount it manually but it said invalid device (the drive is still quiet). When I restart the machine, it spun up and made this high-pitch bird-like chirp sound. I tried this several times with the same result. So can I assume the drive is dead? Do you think it is worth fixing? Thanks for any advice. Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gery@ares.fdn.org (gery) Subject: Re: Is UltraStor control supported/ installation prob ? Message-ID: <1994Feb3.162839.308@ares.fdn.org> Sender: news@ares.fdn.org Organization: Ares - Lyon, France. References: <boonlow.760130071@sfu.ca> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 16:28:39 GMT Boon Chong Benjamin Low writes > Hey Guys, > I just got my NSFIP 3.2 and I have been spending 3 to 4 days > trying to install it. No matter how or which ever combination > I try, I can never get past the stage of installation and the system > will keep on hanging on me :-(( .... > I'm really up to my neck in installation and if anyone has any advice, > please help. > > My system config > ---------------- > 2 IDE harddrive WD 340 mb each > 1 Seagate ST31200N 1 gig SCSI-2 drive > NEC CDR-841 cd drive > 1 Ultrastor 34f VESA SCSI controller <--- problem ? > 32 mb of ram > Noname made in China motherboard <- problem ? > PAS 16 sound card > > SCSI ID > ------- > 0 Seagate ST31200 > 3 NEC CDR84 > 7 Ultrasstor 34F > > I guess that's about all. My system will always keep on hanging on me right > after it ask you to press '1' to load a device driver from disk .. > or '2' to continue without loading additional drivers > > After I select option '2', it will go to a screen and hang there. > > I called NeXT tech-support and they said the don't have any knowledge of > support on my UltraStor controller and motherboard. Infact, they said the > problem might laid on the controller and motherboard. > Before I go out and buy a AIR motherboard and a Adaptech 1542 controller, > I would like some net advice on whether I could made my combination work > without spending more moeny and being uncertain of the results. I > am dead broke already, with the 1gig drive and 32 mb of memory. > > I know about disabling the 5.25 diskdrive in bios. Initally, > I thought the problem might lay in my 2 IDE harddrive as the manual > didn't state whether it would support 2 IDE harddrive and 1 SCSI drive > or not ? I went through mostof the faq without finding any help in them. > > I disable 1 IDE drive, then the other one , then both drives but all the > while, I got the same results as above. > I am running Linux, OS/2 and DOS on my 2 IDE drives and have absolutely > no problems with them. I tried using the OS/2 boot manager > and follow the advice on installing NeXT as an option in OS/2 boot manager > but without success at all. > > I have invested tons of money inorder to run NeXTSTEP and all this failure > is really a big disappointment to me. > So guys, please offer me some help/advice if possible to what I should > do know... :-( > > Thanks alot for reading. > > Regards, > Ben. > > > > > Hello Ben Bad luck, as far I know the Ultrastor 34f VESA SCSI controller is not supported Yannick Cadin think that the Bus Logic 542B or 545S ( both .ISA) are a very good choice Sincerely Gery Divry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: roy@lawrence.ent.ohiou.edu. (roy lawrence) Subject: A different printer jam Message-ID: <CKo24I.DGL@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> Keywords: printer, feed, jamming Sender: news@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (news account) Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 20:55:28 GMT I have read the answers to Allen Tien's printer jamming problem. My problem is similar, but I do not believe the culprit is the feed roller which grabs the paper from the tray. In my case, the sheet will feed almost all the way through the printer, but I have to manually pull out the sheet the last half inch or so. If I don't, subsequent sheets won't feed and the printing task hangs up. Also, I have to mannualy open and close the lid before the printing task will take place (otherwise I get an error message). This behavior is quite consistent. Furthermore, one can tell that it will happen by the sound of the whir (or grind - whatever) that occurs just after the lid is closed. The noise is not complete - it seems to stop about half way through (compared to a properly operating printer). My guess is that some roller that trips a cut-off switch has been forced away from its normal configuration. I have moved some of the rollers by hand - to no effect. Also, I can't figure out how to get the lid off and manually disengage and reposition the various rollers that may be a possible cauae. Your help is appreciated. Roy (roy@lawrence.ent.ohiou.edu)
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More advice... Date: 3 Feb 1994 20:52:22 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2iro66$305@news.u.washington.edu> References: <1994Feb2.203221.21251@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: > I'm considering a specific system (now) and am wondering/hoping for >some input. How does this sound: > > Ecesys 486/DX2-66 system > Wingine 2mb board (VLB) > 525mb SCSI HD & controller > 17" monitor (apparently good Q) > preinstalled NeXTStep 3.2 > ...and the plastic is black!! (miniTower) > > $3940 -- does that sound like a good $ for the config? > > Is 525mb "enough" for a while (non-developer ver NS)?? For that price, I wouldn't expect much more than 8 MB RAM. You will need at least 16 MB more to appreciate this fine system, but that will be about $800 for 70 ns. ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What video card do 16 bit colour ? Message-ID: <1994Feb3.165912.8397@nic.csu.net> From: Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu <Stephen Gibson> Date: 3 Feb 94 16:59:10 PST References: <boonlow.760283852@sfu.ca> Distribution: world Organization: Sonoma State University In article <boonlow.760283852@sfu.ca> Boon Chong Benjamin Low, boonlow@kits.sfu.ca writes: > Hey there, > I need to get a VESA Bus video card that would do 16 bit > colour under NSFIP. > > I have read the faq but can't find the info I wanted. > Can someone please recommend/suggest video cards that they have run > successfully under NSFIP ? > > Apparently, I know that ATI, S3 and ET4000 ( I think ?? ) chip set > video cards would do fine under NeXTSTEP. > > I am planning to get a Hercules VL Pro 2mb dram video card but > is 2mb of dram enough for 16 bit colours ? > Do I need vram to run 16 bit colours ? > > I know I'm being paranoid abit but after spending tons of money and > buying the wrong stuff .. sign... :-( > I need to be sure before I pour another 200-300 dollars for a ET400 video > card. > > Thanks alot for any help and suggestions. > > Regards, > Ben. Ben, Do yourself a favor and get NeXT's Hardware Compatibility Guide from ftp.next.com. It is available in both text and Postscript formats. As far as cards are concerned, ATI's Graphics Ultra Pro/VLB, Number Nine's GXE w/3MB VRAM and miro Computer's miroCrystal 32s will work for you. eMAIL me for more info. --------------------------------------------- Stephen Gibson, Office Automation Specialist Sonoma State University eMAIL: gibsonst@sonoma.edu Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu GibsonST@aol.com
From: dwalker@cup.portal.com (David - Walker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Colorodo Jumbo 120 tape drive and NSI, Can I use it Message-ID: <102722@cup.portal.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 19:37:20 PST Organization: The Portal System (TM) Hello I have a Clone (a good brand) DX2/66 with NeXT Step Intel, and a Colorado Jumbo 120 internal tape drive..... It's one of the ones that hangs off the floppy controler. It's been great for use with DOS, but I'm not sure how to get it to work with NeXT. The only reference to tape drives I can find in the docs is for SCSI devices. Thank you from the bottom of my Recycler.-dwalker@shell.portal.com
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 4 Feb 1994 04:53:42 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2iskcm$3t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu> In article <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu>, carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: |> |> 19" monitors are expensive. And HP's hard disk prices are steep. Here |> in the US, the 19" monitor lists for US$3800, the 1GB disk for US$2100. |> The base machine (no memory, no disk, no monitor) is US$2085. |> |> I've been pricing Pentium machines, and with HP's academic discounting, |> we can get a comparably equiped Gecko for less money than a Gateway |> or Dell PC. Even if you can't get the academic discount, there are |> 3rd party dealers who will give a good discount from HP's list prices. |> |> cheers, |> --mike |> Can you actually get a base machine? I asked about getting one with no monitor and was told by one of HP's reps that it didn't look like you could get one only a 735 could be bought without a monitor. Admitidaly the lack of athority with which she said that didn't inspire me with confidence in her opion. Actually may eb I just didn't want to hear that. john.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Message-ID: <CKoKzz.E58@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 03:43:10 GMT In article <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu> carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: > >19" monitors are expensive. And HP's hard disk prices are steep. Here >in the US, the 19" monitor lists for US$3800, the 1GB disk for US$2100. >The base machine (no memory, no disk, no monitor) is US$2085. > >I've been pricing Pentium machines, and with HP's academic discounting, >we can get a comparably equiped Gecko for less money than a Gateway >or Dell PC. Even if you can't get the academic discount, there are >3rd party dealers who will give a good discount from HP's list prices. > I have got a price for 32mb of memory for the 712/60 for $1640 from Marco international. They're a good group to work with for memory. Not the cheapest, but they cross-ship FedX when you have a problem. My estimate for a reasonably priced full-featured Gecko is: Base system ..............$2085 32 mb memory .............$1640 1.7 Gb hard disk .........$1100 20" 1280x1024 trinitron ..$1700 VRAM .....................$ 300 (?) ------------------------------- Total $6825 What's missing from this picture? Steve -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steven M. Boker # "Two's bifurcation # # boker@virginia.edu # but three's chaotic" # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mperry@netcom.com (Michael Perry) Subject: Re: what's different between daud rate and speed ? Message-ID: <mperryCKotpz.n3H@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <CKnq3B.4FA@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 06:51:34 GMT kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) writes: >I have a stupid problem. I got a modemn with 14400 baud rate but I can >run it at "57600 speed" under TipTop. What is the different between "baud rate " and "spee" ? For your purposes, baud rate is how fast the modem talks to the phone line, and speed is how fast the computer talks to the modem. Particularly when using compression such as MNP/5 or v.42bis, it is useful for speed to be higher than baud rate. Michael Perry mperry@netcom.com
From: peter@ryutai.co.jp (Peter Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP 712/80i "Gecko" And you think it's expensive ... Date: 4 Feb 1994 17:16:46 +0900 Organization: From My Holistically Complete Desk, Tokyo Message-ID: <2it09e$968@hera.ryutai.co.jp> Well, I couldnt resist this having just read the complaints about the HP pricing ... I want one (with Nextstep) but at these prices ... (I expect YHP will be livid, but here we go:) Model 712/80i 705000 17" Monitor 1280x1024 301000 64Mb total ram 1053000 Add 1.0gb SCSI Disk 288000 3.5" floppy 18000 OS (HPUX I presume) 116000 OS Installation 50000 Extra 64Mb 1053000 Localisation (Japan) 0 (Must be something wrong here!) Nihongo Instant Ignition 18000 2234688 (after discount and consumption tax 3%) Thats a lot of memory. We like lots of memory, the guy that does the selection has no self control and listens to advice IFF it is his own. That monitor is clearly jewel encrusted. THe disc must be gold plated too I have installed so many operating systems that I should be able to take the 50000 and run. How much for the memory?!?!? -- My opinions are my own, my company is not capable of opinions, even if it was, they would be stupid.
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More advice... Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 04:18:32 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <19940204.04183233.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <1994Feb2.203221.21251@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <2iro66$305@news.u.washington.edu> James Bassuk <bassuk@u.washington.edu> writes: > >For that price, I wouldn't expect much more than 8 MB RAM. You will >need at least 16 MB more to appreciate this fine system, but that will >be about $800 for 70 ns. > Nope. Includes 16 MB. We don't build anything with less than 16 in it. Marty
From: traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: question about the miro crystal video card Date: 3 Feb 1994 16:12:35 -0500 Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158 Distribution: na Message-ID: <2irpc3INN24r@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU> I know that this is not the correct group for such a request, but I am wondering if anyone out there has managed to use the miro crystal 32s card under Linux as well and NS. I'm asking this here because I know there are a fairly large number of NS users with the Miro Crystal (myself being one of them) Thanks in advance, Jon
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 4 Feb 1994 10:19:53 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2it7g9$f97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <CKoKzz.E58@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Wheew! To all the people who reported different, lower, really nice prices and gave me hope to - one day - get away from all this PC (= Pocket Calculator) stuff: Thank You! Music to my ears! ---------------------------------- "Harhar!" Rainer Frohnhoefer at UNIWUE rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (NeXTMail!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dan@intercom.com (Dan Herschlag) Subject: [Q] Resale value of this Next? Message-ID: <1994Feb4.010958.1508@intercom.com> Organization: InterCom Online +1 (718) 252-6720 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 01:09:58 GMT I am not taking offers for this yet, but just inquiring as to its current market value. Please e-mail responses to dan@intercom.com NeXT Cube (1 processor) 16 MB of RAM 330 MB SCSI HDD 256MB Optical Drive (with 1 optical disk) Ethernet, DSP Port, etc. NeXTSTEP 3.0 installed NeXTSTEP 3.0 CD Keyboard (UNIX-friendly model) and NeXT 2-button mouse Lots of software and resources available. 17" MegaPixel Monitor (92 DPI, 1280x1024) Sound-in/Sound-out New microphone bought recently (RS tie-clip mic) Improv, TeX stuff, emacs, etc. 40 MB swap drive Modem cables Black USR Sportster (v.32bis) All NeXT Manuals (System Admin., Apps., etc.) for NeXTSTEP 1.0, 2.0 NeXT-related paraphenalia (books, etc.) around $300 worth. Thanks in Advance Dan
From: sigmund@rz-uxc06.fh-konstanz.de (Ingo Sigmund) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with Adaptec 1542B in EISA-System Date: 4 Feb 1994 12:37:57 GMT Organization: FH Konstanz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2itfj5$9fu@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Keywords: 1542 1542B EISA Adaptec Since two weeks i am the proud owner of the new NextStep 3.2 Intel Student-Edition. Immeadeatly after unpacking the CD's i tried to install it on my System (Configuration see below). First everything works fine during installation, but after the installation when i rebooted the machine NextStep did not start. The following messages appear during the system-startup : Resetting SCSI Bus.... Registering: sc0 panic: (Cpu0) AHAController: out of ccbs panic: NeXTMach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root (rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15. obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 System Panic Kernel panic exception (6,3,1) Wait for remote debugger connection (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) After this message the only possibility is to press the Reset-Button. Using the Default-Configuration for startup (config=Default at Bootprompt) has no effect an the same message appears. I checked my System for hardware-conflicts but i could not find anything. I also tested some other Adaptec controllers (1542C, 1542CF), but the same error occurred. So i think it must be something with the combination of my EISA-Bus with the Adaptec-Controller. Has anybody seen this message before, or has anybody a solution for this Problem ? Thanks for your help !! Hardware-Configuration 486-33Mhz EISA-Board 20Mb Ram Ati Graphics Ultra (not Pro !! used with the default VGA-Driver of NextStep) 1542B (IO 330; INT 11; MEM DC000; SCSI-ID 7; DMA 5) Microsoft-BusMouse Adapter (INT 5; primary Port) Toshiba 4101T CDROM-Drive at SCSI-ID 2 (4101T is compatible with 3401T) Maxtor 7245SR 245Mb HD at SCSI-ID 0
From: sigmund@rz-uxc06.fh-konstanz.de (Ingo Sigmund) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to get the new Adaptec 2742 Driver ?? Date: 4 Feb 1994 12:42:09 GMT Organization: FH Konstanz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2itfr1$9fu@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Keywords: Adaptec 2742 Driver SCSI Hi folks !! I read some notes about a new 2742EISA Driver for NextStep 3.2. It should be released in 1.Q 1994. The question is : where could i find this driver when it's released ? Any FTP-Site or NeXTAnswers ??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Problems printing envelopes with NeXT printer. Message-ID: <BOOLB5WD@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2ipf1j$9hs@alf.uib.no> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 11:34:35 GMT Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: > I just bought a NeXT printer (thanks Sam!), and am trying it out today. > I cannot seem to get envelopes to print. I am using standard A4 > business envelopes (measure 22cm by 11cm). Yes, I've read the manual. > And the FAQ. And NeXT Answers. > I've tried setting paper size to both LTR and A4 without any luck. > I have (so far) tried manual feed - I imagine that's the easiest to get > to work. It seems that the envelope isn't drawn beyond the toner > cartridge to the rollers that melt the toner - the envelope is left > lying right in the middle of the bottom of the printer, under the > toner cassette, with toner deposited correctly on the envelope. This happens indeed, if you try to print outside the paper/envelope inserted. When toner would miss the paper, printing is stopped. You can either enter the correct measure in PageLayout yourself, or use some App to generated envelopes. e.g there is Poste.app (not too marvelous, but it works...) \begin{quote} Quick Overview Poste is an application/service that prints envelopes. It can be used to print multiple envelopes from a record file, or quickly produce a formatted envelope from another application. Poste is free. \end{quote} Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: c347a04@hawk.depaul.edu (Eric James Carlino) Subject: When will Drivers be available for Bus Logic 445S SCSI VLB Controller? Sender: news@hal.depaul.edu (News Admin) Organization: DePaul University, Chicago Il. Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:31:32 GMT Message-ID: <1994Feb4.143132.15462@hal.depaul.edu> Unfortunately, the one part to my sysstem that I may have jumped the gun on wa s the Bus Logic 445S SCSI VLB controller. NeXT Answers said that drives would be available Q4 93, well here it is Q1 94 and I don't know of these drivers yet. Does anybody know? Also, are there drivers for any SCSI VLB card?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) Subject: Can't find NS/ghostscript/printer hack info Message-ID: <1994Feb4.153417.20139@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 15:34:17 GMT Hello, I remember there being some way to get ghostscript working with NS and 24-pin printers, etc.. However I lost the information and can't figure out where I found it.. Any pointers? Thanks, Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) Subject: miro32 video card Message-ID: <1994Feb4.153722.20258@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 15:37:22 GMT Hello: Does anyone have any experience with the miro32 video card? I'm looking seriously into replacing my ATI card with this and I was wondering if anybody had any good/bad experiences with it (I saw the benchmarks, but I'm looking for comments as opposed to numbers)... Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ProAudio Basic Message-ID: <swaltman-040294113026@porpoise.chem.wesleyan.edu> From: swaltman@rose.chem.wesleyan.edu (Sally Waltman) Date: 4 Feb 94 11:31:38 -0400 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware References: <2ir4f8$647@tribune.usask.ca> Distribution: world Organization: Chemistry Dept., Wesleyan University In article <2ir4f8$647@tribune.usask.ca>, shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca (Geoff Shukin) wrote: > I am wondering what the final word on the ProAudio Spectrum Basic is. It > lists NeXTstep on the box. Does it work well? At all? > > I have a ISA Bus system and a Bug Logic 542b SCSI Card (IRQ 11, DMA 5). > Can I use this card under NeXTstep? > > Thanks Hi I have a 486/66 on which I have the ProAudio Spectrum setup. It works great and I have no problems with it under MS windows. However, it is totally unpredictable when it comes to NeXTstep. Sometime (Usually for a period after system boots) it works and then suddenly all I hear are random noise. I am also eager to find out from anyone who has better success with the ProAudio Spectrum sound card/driver. Thanks. Ravi
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: To hell with next Date: 4 Feb 1994 10:30:53 -0600 Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin Message-ID: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have picked up the drivers from the archive servers, I have special ordered a cable, all to no avail. THIS SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROBLEM!!!! I am about to throw in the towel on NeXT. I had planned to convert my entire research computing network to NS, but am changing plans in light of this absurdity. Support is invisible. It's a great OS, but nothing is worth this hassle. I will gladly pay for a solution to this problem. For now I am reduced to using my old Mac IIcx. At least the damn thing works. -- Robert D. Morris, MD, PhD Phone:414 257-8200 Medical College of Wisconsin Fax: 414 257-8353 Milwaukee, WI 53226 Internet: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I really like my eCesys NS machine Date: 4 Feb 1994 19:10:53 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2iu6jt$3su@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Robert de Lucca The Johns Hopkins University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Oscar Brooks) Subject: 3COM & NeXTStep Message-ID: <1994Feb3.175517.4441@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> Keywords: 3COM, Ethernet Sender: news@dale.ksc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 17:55:17 GMT I understand that the 3COM 3C509 is on the hardware compatibility guide for NS Intel but all that I have available to me is 3COM 3C507 ethernet cards. Does anyone know if this will work with NS Intel 3.2? Being with the government resources are extremely tight so this is about the only choice I have in ethernet cards for white hardware. Please let me know because I am trying to demonstrate the strengths of NeXTStep in the Intel world to my managers. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------ Oscar Brooks Mail Code: DL-DSD-24 Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 32899 Internet: obrooks@dale.ksc.nasa.gov <NeXTMail OK>
From: haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Legal size paper in NLP? How? Message-ID: <13895@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 4 Feb 94 19:07:38 GMT References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh I would like legal size (8.5" x 14") printout from my NeXT Laser Printer. I should think this would be possible. After all, don't the Apple and Hewlett Packard printers that use the same cartridge support legal size? What's more, I think I dimly recall a legal size paper tray being offered for the NLP, back when NeXT was in the hardware business. But, ... when I choose legal size in the page layout menu, and put a piece of legal size paper in the single sheet feed slot, it only prints on the first 11 inches of the page (though, oddly, it prints the bottom 11 inches of the document). What am I doing wrong? Is there some setting I have to make? Can the printer tell that I have a letter size paper tray installed. If so, can I override that (or modify one of my trays to fool it into thinking it has a legal size tray)? Surely, there is SOME way to do it ... Thanks, John Haugeland haugelan+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 11:06:50 CST From: <U59850@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <94035.110650U59850@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.graphics Subject: Re: MAG DX17F Monitor References: <2irg7b$s7d@ftp-p.mccaw.com> In article <2irg7b$s7d@ftp-p.mccaw.com>, david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) says: > > I'm looking for some specs, and perhaps subjective reviews on the new MAG >DX17F monitor. I'd also like to know where I can get one, and what price >they're going for. > > Thanks. > >-- >// David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ... >// david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_ The only difference between DX17F and MX17f is the former one is a green monitor, other than that I don't see any difference in quality as well as price. I have the DX15F which is very nice. Steve Wong UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT CHICAGO COLLEGE OF PHARMACY U59850@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Message-ID: <1994Feb4.202845.524@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Software GmbH References: <2irara$cs@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 20:28:45 GMT In article <2irara$cs@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de (Bastian Schlueter) writes: > In the same magazine is an ad from HP for the gecko (712/60) 16MB RAM, > 260MB Disk, 15" color monitor at 10.235,- DM. > > Which corresponds to 2.56DM per Dollar given the 3999$ for the > same machine in the US :-( There are a few mistakes in this calculation. First, the german price of the HP 712/60, 16 MB RAM, 260 MB HD and 15" color monitor is only 8.900 DM without VAT (= value added tax, Mehrwertsteuer). Since german VAT is 15%, HP has to quote the price as 10.235 DM. But what corporate customers actually pay is only 8.900 DM, since they can reclaim VAT. So the price-uplift for Germany is actually not very high: 7.000 DM U.S. price vs. 8.900 DM german price What many people forget when they compare U.S. prices with European prices is: - There are 5% custom duties on all computer systems which are imported. - There is a value-added-tax of 15% in most countries. - There are high shipping costs from the USA to Europe - Marketing costs per customer are much higher in Europe, since countries are smaller. Population of 80 million in Germany vs. 250 million in the U.S. - Production costs for country-specific parts, like keyboards, manuals, packaging, etc. are higher because of the lower volume. - FCC regulations in Germany or Sweden are extremely strict. This does sometimes require a country-specific product design. - Warranty is often better than in the U.S. Wilfried Beeck d'ART Software GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) Subject: Re: MAG DX17F Monitor Message-ID: <1994Feb4.204014.580@dart.de> Sender: wbeeck@dart.de Organization: d'ART Software GmbH References: <2irg7b$s7d@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 20:40:14 GMT In article <2irg7b$s7d@ftp-p.mccaw.com> david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) writes: > > I'm looking for some specs, and perhaps subjective reviews on the new MAG > DX17F monitor. I'd also like to know where I can get one, and what price > they're going for. > 1024x768 at 70 Hz. We have tried one. Nice design and easy to operate, but the qualtity is poor, compared to the Nanao (EIZO) monitors that we use here in our office. List price was approx. 1,000 dollars. Wilfried Beeck d'ART Software GmbH
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ECESYS blurb from customer Date: 4 Feb 1994 23:09:30 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2iukjb$afg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> My previous post got gobbled. Sorry. I have no connection with ecesys (apart from the fact that I just bought one of their machines). I think there is enough curiosity out there concerning Intel machines that more people should post their impressions after use. I not merely configuration woes. Speaking of configuration, ecesys does it all for you, and seem to do it very well. I just bought a 486/66 with 32mb RAM, 540mb HD, DTP 2011 SCSI controller, Floppy, Wingine video, kybd, mouse for under $3750. I've owned a NS Turbo and NS Turbo color and don't miss them (apart from esthetics, but this ecesys machine is a minitower and sits hidden under the desk. It's quieter than my slabs were). The fact that I don't miss my slabs much says it all, I think. The video is fast. More resolution choices. I bought a Nanao monitor which is better than the Next trinitron. I would have liked a Pentium or gecko box, but they cost more, honestly. Folks at eCesys are extremely honest, NS savvy, and what is more, answer the mail and phones. Try them if you're in the market for an NS box. I'm not affiliated, just a customer. Robert de Lucca The Johns Hopkins University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NextDimension questions Message-ID: <CKMswK.11E@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 04:38:43 GMT In article <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) writes: #1. I recall having heard that certain older NeXT cubes will not # support the NeXTDimension --- power supply problems. Is this # indeed the case? If it is, how do I tell whether my machine is affected? # If my machine is affected, can I correct the problem? How? Never heard this so I don't know. # #2. What are the specifications on NeXTDimension memory? Is it # resonably standard, or is it a hard to find oddball configuration? They use pretty standard 72 pin SIMMS. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Is it OK to remove internal fan of a CUBE and use an external one? Message-ID: <CKMt37.12G@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2ijem2$5bi@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 04:42:43 GMT In article <2ijem2$5bi@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes: #I'm thinking about removing the noisy and ineffective internal fan of my CUBE #and just use a regular (powerful) fan external fan permanently directed at #the CUBE? Is this OK? Any suggestions? Where should the fan blow? Front? #Back? Sides? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul If you do this you will most likely have problems. The '040 among other things will probably overheat and start acting flakey. Also the OD, if it has one will crap out. kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smh@netserv.com (Scott M. Hinnrichs) Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <smh-040294151234@smh-mac.netserv.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@pagesat.com Organization: NetServices References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 23:19:46 GMT In article <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu>, rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) wrote: > > I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a > laserjet 4m. Robert, looks like it isn't just a NeXT problem... this from comp.sys.sun... In article <PERBANDT.94Jan31115817@sv5.mch.sni.de>, you wrote: > > Hi there, > > we have serious problems installing a HP LaserJet 4 M printer > (postscript) on a SUN SPARC LX running SOLARIS 2.2. > > 1. The printer should be connected to a serial interface. How to > program the interface in a proper manner to make it communicate with > the printer? BTW: we have knowledge about the stty command to use for > this task but, WHICH options are HOW to set for this specific kind of > printer? The printers handbook is not very informative in this respect. > > 2. The printer has to print out ASCII as well as postscript files. We > have already installed the print filters supplied by SUN together with > SOLARIS 2.2. To assign a filter we use the lpadmin command: > > $ lpadmin -P lpps508 -I <some_Keyword> > > We tried the value "PS" to get a postscript filter assigned. But it > didn't work (the printer didn't print at all). > With "any" supplied the printer printed postscript files. > Our knowledge about the meaning of "any" is that the printer should > print postscript AND ASCII files now. But it doesn't. > > Any comments on this curious behaviour? > > What to do to get ASCII as well as postscript files printed? > > Thanx in advance for any hints or suggestions. > > Adalbert. > -- > ------------------------ > adalbert.perbandt@mch.sni.de Adalbert Perbandt > Phone: + 89 4144 7651 Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG > __o Dept. BA NM 22 > \< Otto-Hahn-Ring 6 > ()/ () 81739 Munich/Germany
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Resale value of this Next? Date: 5 Feb 1994 03:21:45 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2iv3c9$hru@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1994Feb4.010958.1508@intercom.com> In article <1994Feb4.010958.1508@intercom.com> dan@intercom.com (Dan Herschlag) writes: > I am not taking offers for this yet, but just inquiring as to its current > market value. Please e-mail responses to dan@intercom.com > > NeXT Cube (1 processor) Is it an '030 or '040 cube? -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable. If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X? ==============================================================================
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is it OK to remove internal fan of a CUBE and use an external one? Date: 5 Feb 1994 03:29:06 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2iv3q2$hvb@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <CKMt37.12G@infoserv.com> In article <CKMt37.12G@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: > #and just use a regular (powerful) fan external fan permanently directed at > #the CUBE? Is this OK? Any suggestions? Where should the fan blow? Front? > #Back? Sides? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul > > If you do this you will most likely have problems. > > The '040 among other things will probably overheat and start acting > flakey. Also the OD, if it has one will crap out. I accidently ran my cube for about ten minutes once with the fan disconnected and the OD totally stopped working. I figured it out in time to prevent any permanent damage but probably not by much. With the stakes so high I wouldn't trust any external fan to handle cooling the system down. The cube has an unusually large fan for a desktop computer and with so many SIMMS and the '040 and other chips packed so closely to the HD and optical drive (plus the massive power supply) I am sure the fan is that big for a reason. -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable. If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X? ==============================================================================
From: christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextDimension questions... Answers! Date: 5 Feb 1994 03:29:14 GMT Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA Distribution: na Message-ID: <2iv3qa$dqp@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> References: <CKMswK.11E@infoserv.com> Keywords: answers In article <CKMswK.11E@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: > In article <1994Jan31.040522.14068@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu > (William E. Aitken) writes: > #1. I recall having heard that certain older NeXT cubes will not > # support the NeXTDimension --- power supply problems. Is this > # indeed the case? If it is, how do I tell whether my machine is affected? > # If my machine is affected, can I correct the problem? How? > #2. What are the specifications on NeXTDimension memory? Is it > # resonably standard, or is it a hard to find oddball configuration? > > They use pretty standard 72 pin SIMMS. > > Kent > -- The release notes with my ND board said that certain _old_ cubes had a problem supporting only the color monitor. The power supply needed the load provided by the B&W MegaPixel to be stable. The suggested fix was: run two monitors or have the power supply replaced (free). At least this is what I recall, I have not dug out my ND manual to verify. Try looking in NeXTanswers or more likely the old Tech Support bulletins. I believe that they were only _really old_ cubes, but the serial number range escapes me. As for memory, you need 80ns 72-pin simms. I have had a mix of parity mode and non parity mode working together, and have used 8MB simms. (256Kbit*32, 70ns) The memory must be added in banks of four simms. Bank 0 is at the back (i.e. away from the metal bit) edge. Bank 1 is, well, that should be obvious. -- Christopher Douty cdouty@nazgul.st.hmc.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government Christopher_Douty@hmc.edu | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty, the ----------------------------------------------+ weak, severely limited government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextDimension questions Date: 5 Feb 1994 03:35:52 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: na Message-ID: <2iv46o$i7l@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <CKMswK.11E@infoserv.com> In article <CKMswK.11E@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: > #1. I recall having heard that certain older NeXT cubes will not > # support the NeXTDimension --- power supply problems. Is this > # indeed the case? If it is, how do I tell whether my machine is > # affected? If my machine is affected, can I correct the problem? > > Never heard this so I don't know. Quoting from the ND "faq" as compiled by Steven C Weintz... Second, NeXTdimension computers are designed to be able to work with both a monochrome MegaPixel Display and a MegaPixel Color Display simultaneously. Many owners may prefer to operate the NeXTdimension with only a MegaPixel Color Display. If your computer's serial number is lower than AAK0016370, and you prefer to work without a monochrome display connected to your computer, you must upgrade your computer's power supply with a Power Supply Upgrade Kit. -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable. If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X? ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Re: what's different between daud rate and speed ? Message-ID: <1994Feb4.210103.2507@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies References: <CKnq3B.4FA@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 21:01:03 GMT Here is an explanation of the difference between baud rate and speed (measured in bits per second) from the tutorial that comes with our SerialPortKit (objects for distributed serial communications). For more information on SerialPortKit objects for developers, write info@hot.com. BAUD RATE VERSUS BPS The terms baud rate and bps (bits per second) are not to be used interchangeably. Baud rate refers to number of times a transmission signal changes state while bps refers to amount of data transferred per second. Sometimes the two are the same but when compression schemes are employed, the bps can be higher than the baud rate. For example, two v.32 modems may communicate at 2400 baud but have effective throughput of 9600 bits per second using a 4:1 compression scheme. However, the host computers that these modems are attached to will communicate with the modems at 9600 baud. They key concept to understand is the difference between host-to-modem communication and modem-to-modem communication and how data compression factors in. Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting In article <CKnq3B.4FA@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> kuocy@orchid.ecn.purdue.edu (Chun-Yen Kuo) writes: > > Hi, > > > I have a stupid problem. I got a modemn with 14400 baud rate but I can > run it at "57600 speed" under TipTop. What is the different between "baud rate " and "spee" ? > > > Thanks, > > > Chun-Yen > ps: Is there any version of kermit can run at speed 57600 ? >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yogi@csa.cs.technion.ac.il (Yossi Gil) Subject: Recycle a NeXT mouse? Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 06:02:17 GMT Message-ID: <yogi.760428137@csa> Sender: news@wang.com I have a good NeXT mouse. It came with a color station which died prematurely. Any chance of re-using the mouse with another Sun/PC system? -- Joseph (Yossi) Gil yogi@TECHSEL.BITNET The Faculty of Computer Science yogi@cs.technion.ac.il Technion -- Israel Institute of Technology Tel: +972-4-29-4333 Technion City, Haifa 32000, Israel Fax: +972-4-29-4353
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor) Subject: Re: 1GB in Stations Message-ID: <CKqICC.Bps@nextsrv1.andi.org> Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2ir3b8$ajk@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 04:41:00 GMT In article <2ir3b8$ajk@hp4at.eunet.co.at> alfred@ca-risc.co.at writes: > We are currently fitting some NeXTstations (non-turbos) with 1GB discs > internally. Our concerns are: > 1) Heat > 2) Power supply > Anyone have any experience with it? > > Thanks > > Alfred > > -- > ================================ > Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption > Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism > Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can > alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the > Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game." I have been running a Quantum 1 Gig (I don't recall the precise model number off hand) in my mono NeXTStation for a year without any trouble. (so far, so good). It is a bit noisy, though. -- Bob O'Connor Just BOB Macintosh and NeXT Consulting 7935 Shreve Road Falls Church, VA. 22043-3425 USA (703) 207-9438 justbob@andi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor) Subject: Re: Speed-Up of Stations Message-ID: <CKqIrq.Btq@nextsrv1.andi.org> Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2ir3ni$av8@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 04:50:14 GMT In article <2ir3ni$av8@hp4at.eunet.co.at> alfred@ca-risc.co.at writes: > Has anyone speeded-up old NeXTstations (non-turbos)? Can it be done, > should it be done? > We own two kinds of older stations, one version already has the 72pin > Simm slots. Can that be upgraded to (from 8 * 4mB to 4 * 16mB in oder > words)? > > Thanks for help. > > Alfred > > -- > ================================ > Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption > Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism > Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can > alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the > Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the > game." If I recall correctly, the original NeXTStations could only recognize up to 32MB RAM. Viel Gl ck. -- Bob O'Connor boconnor@andi.org
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 4 Feb 1994 14:32:31 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <2iuidv$g3@darkstar.isi.edu> References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu> <2iskcm$3t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2iskcm$3t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) writes: >In article <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu>, carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: >|> >|> 19" monitors are expensive. And HP's hard disk prices are steep. Here >|> in the US, the 19" monitor lists for US$3800, the 1GB disk for US$2100. >|> The base machine (no memory, no disk, no monitor) is US$2085. >|> >|> I've been pricing Pentium machines, and with HP's academic discounting, >|> we can get a comparably equiped Gecko for less money than a Gateway >|> or Dell PC. Even if you can't get the academic discount, there are >|> 3rd party dealers who will give a good discount from HP's list prices. >|> >|> cheers, >|> --mike >|> > >Can you actually get a base machine? I asked about getting one with no monitor >and was told by one of HP's reps that it didn't look like you could get one only >a 735 could be bought without a monitor. Admitidaly the lack of athority with >which she said that didn't inspire me with confidence in her opion. Actually may >eb I just didn't want to hear that. > >john. In response to a couple of requests, and since the price list I have doesn't say don't distribute, here is an edited version of it (I'm not going to type in the entire thing). Contact an HP sales rep for an actual quote. --mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a partial summary of the 712/60 and 712/80i price lists I have. Note that the 60 and 80i have separate price lists, but for all of the items I've listed here the prices are identical. The main exception is that it appears that the 15in monitor isn't available with the 80i. The price list makes it sound as if you must purchase a CPU, monitor, memory, disk, keyboard and OS. I've listed a couple of the options, many others are available. cheers, --mike 712/60 Bundled configuration: Required: 712/60 bundle 3890 712/60, 15" monitor, 16MB, 260MB disk, and Required keyboard & mouse 105 (called "Workstation Localization Kit") 712/60 and 712/80i Workstation prices: U.S. List price Required SPU: HP 712/60 2085 HP 712/80i 5135 Required Monitor: 15in (1024x768) 625 (appears to not be available with 80i) 17in (1024x768) 1800 17in (1280x1024) 2200 19in (1280x1024) 3800 11.8in (1024x768) 10595 (Flat Panel Color Display) Required Memory: 16MB (2x8MB) 1280 24MB (2x8MB+2x4MB) 1920 32MB (4x8MB) 2560 32MB (2x16MB) 3840 64MB (4x16MB) 7680 Required Internal Disk: 260MB SCSI II 500 525MB SCSI II 1200 1GB SCSI II 2100 Required keyboard & mouse 105 Required OS Release 9.0 125 Optional floppy drive 125 Optional 2nd serial port 295 Optional external CDROM 1095
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problems printing envelopes with NeXT printer. Date: 5 Feb 1994 15:30:55 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2j0aiv$pld@alf.uib.no> References: <2ipf1j$9hs@alf.uib.no> <BOOLB5WD@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In article <BOOLB5WD@gwdu03.gwdg.de>, Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> wrote: >Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: >> lying right in the middle of the bottom of the printer, under the >> toner cassette, with toner deposited correctly on the envelope. > >This happens indeed, if you try to print outside the paper/envelope >inserted. When toner would miss the paper, printing is stopped. You I'm not doing that. I used Edit (in RTF format) to make a layout that matched the envelope (i.e. tabs and returns until the name and address were centred). It printed perfectly - the envelope had toner (i.e. what I was printing - name + address) in exactly the middle as I defined, but the envelope wasn't being drawn through the printer - it would simply lie there, maybe the rollers didn't grab it? I then got "Paper jammed" message and had to use lpc to get everything up again. Simply correcting the jam did not help. Many have suggested slightly bending the leading edge (as it goes into the printer) of the envelope downwards slightly, I have not tried yet, but shal. Rather complicated if I shal print many enveloped, I think... >can either enter the correct measure in PageLayout yourself, or use >some App to generated envelopes. e.g there is Poste.app (not too >marvelous, but it works...) I do not think that page layout is problem - I have tried A4, Letter, and the actual envelope size. I think the problem is a mechanical weakness with the NeXT 400dpi printer. Maybe it's just because mine is new, and will work when it's broken in. > >\begin{quote} > Let me guess who wrote Poste.app... ;-) >\end{quote} > >Ciao, Stephan >-- >trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Nanao monitor problems!! Message-ID: <CKqpBG.BrA@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2ilm7pINN82f@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 07:11:39 GMT In article <2ilm7pINN82f@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) writes: >Hi, > >if you have a Nanao Flexscan (mine's a 560iW, 17") please >respond. > >I have just got a ecesys 486-66 (nice machine) with a Wingine >driver/card combo. I just got a Nanao monitor. The image is crisp >and steady as my old NSTC. BUT there are "discolorations" in the >upper left, lower left, and lower right of the image which try >as I might I can't make go away. I tried the VGA default driver - >no difference. I see the discoloration on bootup - before NS >kicks in. It seems to be the monitor. I checked the cabling - >all tight. The cable was supplied by Nanao - standard, not BNC. >All color settings have no effect. > >Is this then a defective monitor? Anyone? > >Thanks > >Robert de Lucca > >Johns Hopkins University > Two possibilities: (a) a defective monitor (damaged in transit??); or (b) some sort of local electromagnetic field (any equipment nearby that might generate such fields?--motors, transformers, wires carrying significant current, ...). Have you called Nanao? They could be your best help. david ------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Nanao monitor problems!! Message-ID: <CKqpxH.Bxy@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2ilm7pINN82f@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 07:24:52 GMT In article <2ilm7pINN82f@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca) writes: >Hi, > >if you have a Nanao Flexscan (mine's a 560iW, 17") please >respond. > >I have just got a ecesys 486-66 (nice machine) with a Wingine >driver/card combo. I just got a Nanao monitor. The image is crisp >and steady as my old NSTC. BUT there are "discolorations" in the >upper left, lower left, and lower right of the image which try >as I might I can't make go away. I tried the VGA default driver - [munch] > >Is this then a defective monitor? Anyone? > >Thanks > >Robert de Lucca > >Johns Hopkins University > A further follow-up. When the Flexscan powers up (even after stand-by) it automatically degausses itself by passing an alternating current through a coil around the tube face. This gets rid of residual magnetism in the shadow mask, which would otherwise cause the kind of problems you describe. Possibly this cycle does not occur on your monitor (which would mean your monitor had a fault), or the mask is too heavily magnetised for the built-in coil to handle. In the latter case, a one-time degaussing with an external degaussing tool (such as a tape bulk eraser) could cure the problem. You need to avoid damaging the tube in the process, and if you are unsure, then get a professional to do the work. However, if it were mine, I might experiment by running a bulk eraser all over the face of the tube, and see if the problem went away, or at least was changed/improved (in which case something more powerful might be needed). If the degaussing coil that is built in doesn't work, the problem will return again, even if the bulk eraser cures it. You should notice a kind of "whoomp" as the monitor powers up when the video signal is applied, if the degaussing system is functioning. Hope this helps. david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Internet Trouble Summary: Strange telnet trouble Keywords: Internet, NS3.2, Gateway 2000, IIICOM Etherlink Message-ID: <1994Feb4.030807.29101@bnlux1.bnl.gov> Date: 4 Feb 94 03:08:07 GMT Sender: Ben Sternlieb Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 Here's a pickle. I have NS3.2 installed on a Gateway 2000 with a III COM 16-bit 3C509-COMBO ethernet adapter. I'm hanging off an external AUI transceiver and I have the my card configured as follows: I/O Base Address 300h IRQ 10 Boot PROM Disabled Transceiver type AUI Network Driver Opt. DOS Client Maximum Modem No Modem . The funny thing is, I can telnet/FTP out but I can only intermittantly telnet in! Sometimes an incoming telnet freezes right away, and often it freezes after being idle about a 1/2 minute. All my IP addresses are in order and I'm just running as a stand-alone system. My guest was that some daemon was misbehaving so I reloaded the whole operating system. No luck though. If anybody has any suggestions please drop me a line: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (516) 282 - 3817 Thanks, Ben __________________________________________________________________________ Ben Sternlieb - Neutron Scattering Group - Physics Dept. Brookhaven National Laboratory __________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor) Subject: Re: Is anyone willing to part with their... Message-ID: <CKrEBr.G3z@nextsrv1.andi.org> Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2irvmg$fel@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 16:11:50 GMT In article <2irvmg$fel@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> icardena@ih-nxt05.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: > > Hello. I have been in the market for a new system and I came > across a system that'd I'd like to buy only there's a couple things: > > 1) I'll need an '040 upgrade board. (Does Shperical Solutions > still have any? How would I get in touch with them?) > 2) I'll need to get NeXTstep 3.2 > > I wanted to know if anyone has these to offer me. I also would > like to know if I can take the RAM from the '030 (16MB) and install it on > the '040 board. If someone would like to sell me an upgrade board then I > would also need instructions as to how to install, etc. > > Thanx, > Ian > > PS A NextDimension board would be nice...just a bit out of my price range > :) You can definitely transfer the RAM from the '030 to the '040 just so it is NOT an '040 Turbo. Good luck with the rest. :-) --- Bob O'Connor Just BOB Macintosh and NeXT Consulting 7935 Shreve Road Falls Church, VA. 22043-3425 USA (703) 207-9438 justbob@andi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE Message-ID: <CKrJzK.3KF@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <1994Feb2.180159.11502@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <CEDMAN.94Feb2180936@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:14:08 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Feb2180936@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: [ ] > >A 530 MByte SCSI hard disk costs about $500-$600, only slightly (if at >all) more than a comparable IDE disk. It is true that you'll have to >buy an SCSI controller to use with it but you can get a NS compatible >one for about $150-$200 and you'll need one for the CD-ROM drive >anyway. People who ask $1k more for an SCSI system than for the >equivalent IDE system are either technically ignorant or are trying to >cheat you -- in either case you should not deal with them. But by all >means do get an SCSI system. I don't agree. IDE causes far fewer problems on PC's. Moreover you really only need SCSI to load the OS. This can be done with a borrowed controller and one of those way over-priced SCSI CD-ROM's. Since many NeXT PC users want to run Windows, they are better off getting an inexpensive double speed (at least half the price up here) IDE CD-ROM and a VL controller, which is more than fast enough for current HD's. SCSI is way overrated. It's nice that you can daisy chain devices, but this is not really important for most people and in any case the days of IDE supporting 4 HD's are here now. I had nothing but hassles with the 1542CF (and 3.2), and I don't even have a SCSI HD. In my opinion you should stick to IDE hard drives on a PC, for now. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: ProAudio Basic Message-ID: <CKrK3p.3nD@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2ir4f8$647@tribune.usask.ca> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:16:37 GMT In article <2ir4f8$647@tribune.usask.ca> shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca (Geoff Shukin) writes: >I am wondering what the final word on the ProAudio Spectrum Basic is. It >lists NeXTstep on the box. Does it work well? At all? While waiting for NeXT to support the SB16/ASP, I went out and bought a PAS 16 Basic. I have both audio cards in the PC. Everything works fine, but then I'm not trying to record my voice at CD levels. > [ ] > > > -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: Re: ECESYS blurb from customer Message-ID: <1994Feb5.172951.4056@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <2iukjb$afg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 17:29:51 GMT In article <2iukjb$afg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > My previous post got gobbled. Sorry. > > I have no connection with ecesys (apart from the fact that I > just bought one of their machines). I think there is > enough curiosity out there concerning Intel machines that > more people should post their impressions after use. I not > merely configuration woes. > > Speaking of configuration, ecesys does it all for you, and > seem to do it very well. I just bought a 486/66 with 32mb > RAM, 540mb HD, DTP 2011 SCSI controller, Floppy, Wingine > video, kybd, mouse for under $3750. I've owned a NS Turbo and > NS Turbo color and don't miss them (apart from esthetics, but > this ecesys machine is a minitower and sits hidden under the > desk. It's quieter than my slabs were). > > The fact that I don't miss my slabs much says it all, I > think. The video is fast. More resolution choices. I > bought a Nanao monitor which is better than the Next > trinitron. > > I would have liked a Pentium or gecko box, but they > cost more, honestly. > > Folks at eCesys are extremely honest, NS savvy, and what > is more, answer the mail and phones. Try them if you're > in the market for an NS box. > I'm not affiliated, just a customer. > > Robert de Lucca > The Johns Hopkins University > I just purchased two intel boxes from Ecesys. One in the same configuration as Robert. I don't want to talk to much about the machines, I still like black hardware, but I am very happy with the intel boxes running NS. I would like to say I was happy with Ecesys. I get the impression they are a smaller company, but then, who isn't compared to the Dell's or Compacs. But the truth of the matter is they at least know what the hell they are doing with NEXTSTEP. The equipment was ordered, delivered, and everyone of my emails and/or phone calls have been returned promptly. Or, at least fast enough for me. On the other hand, I tried to order some boxes from Logisys and it was nothing but a damn hassle. They would not even take a pre-paid check in the amount of $14,000. Hey, if you don't want the check, I will take my business elsewhere. Then, when the lady I was working with heard of my "authority" for purchasing and quantity, she had the nerve to tell me, "I guess I should be nice to you." Damn straight you should be nice to me. Actually, you should be just as nice to me if I am ordering quantity 1 or quantity 100. That really pissed me off so I went elsewhere. I am assuming they have realized this since they have failed to contact me on my previous order. Well if you are listening LOGISYS, "I would suggest those employees with bad customer relation tactics enroll in an attitude course quickly." I took my $14,000 elsewhere and I will take the rest of my companies business and the business of race tracks around the elsewhere. -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: sticky space bar Date: 5 Feb 1994 19:14:39 GMT Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University Message-ID: <2j0r6v$gdm@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Has anyone had this problem? My NeXT (black) non-adb keyboard has gotten a lethargic, sticky space bar. I removed the screws in the bottom of the keybd and took the cover off & blew air everywhere, but it didn't help. It looks like if I could get the spacebar off, I might be able to clean up the spring, but I can't figure out how to get the spacebar off short of brute force, which I'm afraid may just break it. Is there a trick to removing the space bar? Or, alternatively, is there anyone who fixes keyboards that get in this state? Thanks for any help on this. Please respond to david@jaffe.com.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: Legal size paper in NLP? How? Message-ID: <CKrJD9.DEv@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval References: <13895@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:00:44 GMT In article <13895@blue.cis.pitt.edu> haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland) writes: > I would like legal size (8.5" x 14") printout from my NeXT Laser Printer. > I should think this would be possible. After all, don't the Apple and > Hewlett Packard printers that use the same cartridge support legal size? > What's more, I think I dimly recall a legal size paper tray being offered > for the NLP, back when NeXT was in the hardware business. > > But, ... when I choose legal size in the page layout menu, and put a piece > of legal size paper in the single sheet feed slot, it only prints on > the first 11 inches of the page (though, oddly, it prints the bottom 11 > inches of the document). > > What am I doing wrong? Is there some setting I have to make? Can the > printer tell that I have a letter size paper tray installed. If so, can > I override that (or modify one of my trays to fool it into thinking it > has a legal size tray)? Surely, there is SOME way to do it ... Just pull out the paper tray and flip its green switch. Done! --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Buslogic 747S biosread error Message-ID: <westesCKruD5.6wz@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 21:58:16 GMT I recently bought a BusLogic 747S EISA SCSI card for use with NS 3.2 on a NICE Super-EISA motherboard. It turns out that the latest version of the BusLogic card does NOT work with NS, and that you need to order a BIOS downgrade. I ordered and installed the downgrade, and everything was fine for a few days. Today I booted up fine, but after a while the disk started cycling like maybe it was having problems reading something and was retrying. So I brought the system down and rebooted, and during a diagnostic boot as soon as the Adaptec 1542B drivers are loaded I see the error: biosread error 0x2 @ 50144, C:24 H:31 S:0 Does anyone recognize this error? Is it possible that one of the new BIOS chips I ordered went bad or lost its information? -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: How do i plug a multisyncing monitor into a station? Message-ID: <CKqJ9F.2Ir@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1994Feb3.041935.29729@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 05:00:51 GMT In article <1994Feb3.041935.29729@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) writes: # #I've gota Dell 17" Multisyncing monitor, and i'd like to plug it #into a NeXTStation. Can this be done? ifTrue: how? It can be done. What type of connector is on the Dell? Will it support 1280x1024? If it only supports a max. resolution of 1024x768 it may or may not work. If it has BNC connectors on it a Sun cable will work as long as it's from a Sun that uses 13w13 on one end and BNC on the other. No matter what connector is on the Dell you should be able to get a cable. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SUMMARY: NeXT printer and envelopes. Date: 6 Feb 1994 01:23:14 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2j1d9i$hcr@alf.uib.no> Thanks for all the suggestions. The basic consensus is that the NeXT printer does not handle envelopes well... Most suggested creasing the leading edge as much as possible to help, and to bend the leading edge slightly downwards, or corners slightly upwards. Well, nothing worked for me, untill I thought that by giving the printer more to grab onto it might work. By placing a piece of paper under the envelopes loose "top" (which is glued in place after you put a letter in, you see?) , and pushing the envelope into the printer with the paper (and the paper too!) the printer was fooled into thinking it was just a thick piece of paper, and it worked. Not elegant (I don't look forward to christmas cards now...) but effective. Thanks again for the suggestions. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: dgc@ccrwest.org (David G. Cantor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problems printing envelopes with NeXT printer. Date: 5 Feb 1994 16:58:12 -0800 Organization: IDA Center for Communications Research Message-ID: <2j1fb4$6ao@ccrwest.ccrwest.org> References: <2ipf1j$9hs@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: >I cannot seem to get envelopes to print. I am using standard A4 >business envelopes (measure 22cm by 11cm). Yes, I've read the manual. >And the FAQ. And NeXT Answers. >I've tried setting paper size to both LTR and A4 without any luck. >I have (so far) tried manual feed - I imagine that's the easiest to get >to work. It seems that the envelope isn't drawn beyond the toner >cartridge to the rollers that melt the toner - the envelope is left >lying right in the middle of the bottom of the printer, under the >toner cassette, with toner deposited correctly on the envelope. >Could someone who has solved this or similar problem, or who knows >how to fix this, please send me an e-mail? At the point where the envelope stops, it has to curve downward into the printer. Stiff paper and envelopes have trouble doing this. I have found that it helps to crease the front edge of the envelope so that it is very sharp and put a slight downward bend in the envelope before feeding. The bend seems to be removed by the printer as the envelope passes through. Also, make sure that your envelopes aren't too rigid. dgc David G. Cantor Center for Communications Research 4320 Westerra Court San Diego, CA 92121 dgc@ccrwest.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Message-ID: <1994Feb5.190256.5598@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <CKoKzz.E58@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 19:02:56 GMT In article <CKoKzz.E58@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) writes: > My estimate for a reasonably priced full-featured Gecko is: > > Base system ..............$2085 > 32 mb memory .............$1640 > 1.7 Gb hard disk .........$1100 > 20" 1280x1024 trinitron ..$1700 > VRAM .....................$ 300 (?) > ------------------------------- > Total $6825 > > What's missing from this picture? The email from my HP rep indicates one can not purchase the components a la carte. The base components are marked as "required", and include the CPU, 15" display, 16 MB RAM, 260 MB HD, mini HP-UX, etc. Furthermore, although the academic discount for lower priced HP hardware is 33% (for us, at least, anyone getting a better deal?), one can't just apply that to the often quoted $3,995 base system price. That base system price is like a special discount price for business customers. Academic purchasers must add the list prices of the required components and then apply the academic discount, which in our case worked out to a base price of ~$3,000. Still pretty cheap... -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <1994Feb5.190904.5731@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 19:09:04 GMT In article <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) writes: > I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a > laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have > picked up the drivers from the archive servers, I have special ordered a > cable, all to no avail. THIS SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROBLEM!!!! I am about to > throw in the towel on NeXT. I had planned to convert my entire research > computing network to NS, but am changing plans in light of this absurdity. > Support is invisible. It's a great OS, but nothing is worth this hassle. > > I will gladly pay for a solution to this problem. For now I am reduced to > using my old Mac IIcx. At least the damn thing works. I would suggest purchasing an Emulex NetJet card for the printer. Then just hang it on the network, make the printcap entry, and wonder why you ever bothered with the serial ports while enjoying problem-free fast printing... I am assuming the same type card that fits in out HP 4Si would work, you should of course check. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Date: 6 Feb 94 02:58:17 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.760503497@uiuc.edu> References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <smh-040294151234@smh-mac.netserv.com> Scott M. Hinnrichs writes: >Robert, looks like it isn't just a NeXT problem... this from >comp.sys.sun... But the fact that this is a problem for NS users is not good. I can't say I'd feel relieved if some user of another OS had it hard too. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Date: 6 Feb 94 02:59:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.760503569@uiuc.edu> References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <1994Feb5.190904.5731@cs.yale.edu> Nathan F. Janette writes: >Then just hang it on the network, make the printcap entry, and wonder why >you ever bothered with the serial ports while enjoying problem-free >fast printing... Sounds to me like some hassle compared to the Mac. -- J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 00:03:13 GMT My NeXTstation mono has now reached the age where I seriously consider replacing it with a new machine. I've no intention of giving up my NeXTstep which restricts the choices to essentially PC or HP workstation hardware (Sun hardware seems to be underperforming and overpriced, and Power PC or Alpha hardware would certainly be interesting but I suspect we'll have to wait at least another year before consumers can get NS for them). I am willing to spend up to $10k for a complete system but I would like to receive value for that. The two most attractive choices I've found are: a) a Royal Pentium 66 MHz, PCI/EISA tower with 16 MBytes of RAM, 512 kBytes of cache, a 21" Viewsonic monitor and a 4 MB VRAM Matrox MGA-II graphics card for $5375. Add to this $2k for a 2.1 GByte Barracuda SCSI drive, another $1k or so for an additional 32 MBytes of RAM and $150 for an Adaptec scsi card to use temporarily and the system adds up to $8.5k. b) an HP Gecko 712/80i with an 19" monitor, 16 MBytes of RAM for $11k. Subtract a 35% academic discount and the price is down to $7.2k. Add a 2.1 GByte Barracuda SCSI drive for $2k and another 16 MBytes of RAM for $1k and this system price should be about $10k. For either machine I'll have to spend another $300 for NS, but I already have an SCSI CD ROM drive and DAT drive. Advantages for a): - cheaper by $2k or so. - NS available now. - Tower case instead of cable mess which I suspect b) will work out to. - 2 extra monitor inches and a multi-sync monitor which will be usable with the next system as well. - _real_ 24 bit color at 1 MPixel resolution and 16 bit color at 2 MPixel resolution. - can very likely be upgraded to higher processor speeds over the years. - easily and cheaply expandable in any number of ways. - can use PC software in a pinch. - if NeXT should fold a) will still be usable with a relative decent alternative UN*X (like e.g. Linux) rather than HP/UX. Advantages for b): - Higher SpecInt92 by 84 to 67. - No need to write device driver for video card. - High speed serial I/O is very important to me. I assume that this has to be more reliable on b) than on a). - PCI may not yet be ready for general usage. What have I overlooked ? What system would you buy ? Is there another system in this class worth considering ? What makes the Matrox MGA II apparently the fastest PC graphics card ? Is it large amounts of line drawing or compositing hardware (which would be useless under NS) ? Are my SpecInt numbers wrong, or is the Pentium _really_ in the same class as modern workstations in integer performance ? If you wish to answer any (or all) of these questions or otherwise comment, I'd be very grateful if you either emailed me or even better posted to all or some of the above groups. Carl Edman
From: chris@tp72.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christian Finger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware Date: 6 Feb 1994 07:56:47 GMT Organization: Computer Center, University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <2j27rv$rpv@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote: [...] > Advantages for b): [ HP 712/80i ] [..] > - High speed serial I/O is very important to me. I assume that this has to be > more reliable on b) than on a). From the DEPENDENCIES section of termio(7) (HP-UX 9.03): Series 700 Built-in serial ports on Series 700 machines support the following additional baud rate settings: 57600, 115200, 230400, and 460800 baud. An RS-232-to-RS-422 converter may be required to achieve practical cable lengths at these baud rates (because RS-232 only specifies up to 19200 baud). Timed delays are not supported. Built-in serial ports on Series 700 systems have RTS and CTS flow control capability, configurable receive FIFO trigger levels, and a configurable transmit limit. RTS/CTS hardware handshaking can be enabled through a bit in the device file minor number, through an ioctl() call (see termiox(7)), or through the stty command (see stty(1)). -- . Christian Finger Computer Center (G20.21 R318) ||| EMail : finger@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de University of Karlsruhe \||| Tel : (+49) 721/608-4038 Postfach 6980 / Fax : (+49) 721/32550 D-76128 Karlsruhe, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Message-ID: <CKr0qD.12s@zoodle.robin.de> Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Organization: meow!!! References: <CEDMAN.94Feb3095423@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 11:18:12 GMT Carl Edman writes > Have you checked for academic discounts ? They vary from university > to university and I do not know how common they are in the Federal > Republic, but an HP rep at at least one US university with a good > relationship with HP has confirmed a price of $2.6k for a base > configuration HP Gecko. I know that at least some German universities > have bought more than enough HP hardware to justify discounts like > that. Even though I personally 'know' (well, studied there) university in Germany that has loads of HP workstations (300 and 400 series) I've never heard of any possibility to get a private machine through a university. That doesn't exist here. Universities aren't selling anything in Germany. On the other hand NeXT Germany itself has the academic pricings that you can get through all resellers. I don't know if that's possible with HP too. Bye, Uli -- An EMACS missionary is brooding over a problem, obviously puzzled. A VI disciple comes along, sees his facial expression, and says: "Ctrl-x Ctrl-c ..."
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1GB in Stations Date: 5 Feb 1994 09:53:30 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2ivqaq$etq@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CKqICC.Bps@nextsrv1.andi.org> In article <CKqICC.Bps@nextsrv1.andi.org> boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor) writes: > In article <2ir3b8$ajk@hp4at.eunet.co.at> alfred@ca-risc.co.at writes: > > We are currently fitting some NeXTstations (non-turbos) with 1GB discs > > internally. Our concerns are: > > 1) Heat > > 2) Power supply > > Anyone have any experience with it? I have both a Conner 1.3 GB half height, a Maxtor 200 MB 1" height and the NeXT floppy drive, all internal inside my 040 slab. There are no power supply and no heating problems. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) Subject: Re: Recycle a NeXT mouse? Message-ID: <CKsszL.E17@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> Sender: news@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong References: <yogi.760428137@csa> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 10:26:08 GMT yogi@csa.cs.technion.ac.il (Yossi Gil) writes: >I have a good NeXT mouse. It came with a color station which died >prematurely. Any chance of re-using the mouse with another Sun/PC >system? I suggest the best way is to sell to a person whose mouse is dead. I had watch one request from the net a while earlier but didn't save any information.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Message-ID: <IZQLBQXR@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2irara$cs@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 13:29:00 GMT Bastian Schlueter (buzz@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: [stuff about even higher pricing deleted] : In the same magazine is an ad from HP for the gecko (712/60) 16MB RAM, : 260MB Disk, 15" color monitor at 10.235,- DM. : Which corresponds to 2.56DM per Dollar given the 3999$ for the : same machine in the US :-( I hate these kind of threads. They came up when the original, good old black machines were introduced in Germany and now again: People whining about the high prices outside of US. So again a little course in economics for those guys and lets hope that this time this won't be an endless thread. First you have to see that the US price is before tax (VAT), which is 15% in Germany (even higher in other countries), but doesn't count for commercial buyers, since they get it back. Next there is 4.9 % customs. Then there are transport costs and insurance. Note that the VAT (called EUST in Germany in this case) is 15% of (the machine + customs + transport etc). So lets see how much it costs to import the new Gecko to Germany: 3999$ * 1.78 (rough guess for US$, might be even higher soon!) 7118 DM * 1.049 customs 7467 DM + 533 DM transport/insurance (this is even a conservative estimate) 8000 DM * 1.15 EUST 9200 DM And say an additional 100 DM for your higher phone bill for calls to the US. So all in all you might save about 10% of the price you pay in Germany. Experience tells that you can get at least 2-3% off the price when paying cash. And if talk to the sales folks a bit longer and nerve them long enough you might even get 5% or more. Not to talk about additional SW or goodies you might get. So considering all that in the end you saved about 600 DM or about 350$. Great. And half a year later the same people are complaining that they don't get support for their importet machines. Did you take into account that the $ might go up to say 2 DM? Or that there are people at HP here in Germany who want to get paid for their work (e.g. support, salespersons, translation of docs etc)? And that the ads in the magazines have to be paid? Know what they cost? From all that I'd say HP offers a fair price here in Germany. So, please, first consider all the costs like getting machines to Europe, taxes, support etc. before complaining. Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Date: 6 Feb 1994 14:50:59 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j304j$hcs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu>, cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: |> My NeXTstation mono has now reached the age where I seriously consider |> replacing it with a new machine. I've no intention of giving up my |> NeXTstep which restricts the choices to essentially PC or HP |> workstation hardware (Sun hardware seems to be underperforming and |> overpriced, and Power PC or Alpha hardware would certainly be |> interesting but I suspect we'll have to wait at least another year |> before consumers can get NS for them). I am willing to spend up to |> $10k for a complete system but I would like to receive value for that. |> |> The two most attractive choices I've found are: |> |> a) a Royal Pentium 66 MHz, PCI/EISA tower with 16 MBytes of RAM etc |> |> b) an HP Gecko 712/80i with an 19" monitor, 16 MBytes of RAM for $11k. |> |> |> Advantages for a): |> - cheaper by $2k or so. |> - NS available now. |> - Tower case instead of cable mess which I suspect b) will work out to. |> - 2 extra monitor inches and a multi-sync monitor which will be usable with |> the next system as well. |> |> Carl Edman |> The Gecko does come in a floor stand model so that may ease your cable mess problem a little. With regard to the Monitor, some of the people selling gecko's seem to be suggesting that they will supply one to you without a monitor. This I belive would proberbally be a better deal. Then get a multi-sync monitor from somewhere else. john.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE Date: 5 Feb 1994 09:05:08 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2ivjvk$ve@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Feb2.180159.11502@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: > I am calling around and pricing different Intel systems on which to run >NeXTStep -- and I'm often finding that SCSI controller/drive (approx. 530mb) >costs near $1000 more than IDE equivalent. > > Is there THAT much difference in sys speed by using IDE instead of >SCSI?? And I do know that SCSI-CDROM is needed for initial install. I work regularly on two systems which are equipped almost equally, except one with a (rather fast) IDE drive (WD caviar) and one with a fast SCSI drive (DEC DSP). The difference in performance is extreme. It gives me pain in the a** to see a cool VL DX2/66 system with 32 MB RAM being always busy with disk transfers and swapping through a bottleneck. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 5 Feb 1994 09:18:35 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jmazo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes: >I am looking for a computer system that would fit the following >specifications for the least amount of money, and would like the collective >wisdom of the net on the subject of acquiring (pointers to sellers would be >appreciated as well) a computer with the following attributes: >1). Pentium (with cache expandable or shipped at 256 K) Not necessary, because too expensive. It gives you a performance gain of about 25% (in comparison to a DX2/66) for twice the price. If you want to get a good performance-for-money ratio, Pentium is out of the question. If money is secondary, wait for a HP Gecko - at least twice the performance of a Pentium. >2). PCI bus (version 2.0) >3). 12 M RAM A joke, eh? 24 MB should be the minimum for any serious work with a PCI or even Pentium system. >4). Local Bus Video (with video card to support at least 1280 x 1024 x 8-bit >grayscale x 70 HZ refresh) Why a Local Bus if you have PCI? The ATI GUP PCI already works, some smart guys found out that it is only a minor patch to the driver source. The resolution you want is supported, but only at 60 Hz. Thus, I recommend 1120x832x8 bit at 68 Hz. The ATI is real fast at 8 bit grayscale. >5). 17 (or 19) inch grayscale monitor to mate with above OK. But I think it's not easy to find grayscale monitors. >6). 450 M hard drive (not necessarily very fast one), IDE or SCSI Forget IDE. >7). SCSI CD-ROM drive (w/SCSI controller) Talus' driver for the PCI onboard SCSI controller is supposed to be released soon. >8). 4 removable-media bays (I guess this means it is probably a tower or >mini-tower) >9). A reasonable fax-modem (fast, but not the "latest and greatest") ZyXEL. NXFax 1.04 will be released soon, too. >10). An ink jet printer (HP-style) >11). MOST IMPORTANTLY, I have to be able to run NeXTSTEP (however it is >spelled these days) on it. >12). The purchase will have to be made so that the system would arrive at >about March 10th so I have time to install NeXTSTEP before my finals. Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ByteBenchmark test result. Date: 5 Feb 1994 09:26:09 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2ivl71$11q@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Feb3.054037.5379@iitmax.iit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thssjxy@iitmax.iit.edu (Yong Yoo) writes: > This is NeXTStep 3.2 on 486DX50 with 32 ram, adaptec 1542B controller, >Seagate 1.4 gig scsi drive, ATI pro VESA with 2 meg (1024x768 with 65000 >color). > AVERAGE 1.6 Here's my result: NS/I 3.2, SiS-EISA/VL 486 DX2/66, ATI GUP VL 2 MB 1024x768x16bit, 32 MB RAM, DPT 2021 (ISA), DEC DSP 3053L (535 MB). BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) System -- marsu Start Benchmark Run: Mon Jan 31 23:49:17 GMT+0100 1994 2 interactive users. Dhrystone 2 without register variables 63260.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Dhrystone 2 using register variables 63123.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 124838.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = register) 8563.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = short) 7830.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = int) 8547.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = long) 8562.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = float) 4890.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = double) 4977.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) System Call Overhead Test 14977.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe Throughput Test 5555.0 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching Test 2102.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Process Creation Test 69.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Execl Throughput Test 65.4 lps (9 secs, 6 samples) File Read (10 seconds) 29415.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Write (10 seconds) 1400.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (10 seconds) 1042.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Read (30 seconds) 29738.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Write (30 seconds) 1266.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (30 seconds) 1076.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) C Compiler Test 47.5 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 59.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 32.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 17.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 8.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 1878.1 lpm (60 secs, 6 samples) Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 896.0 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) /usr/src/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/25386.dat INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 4977.1 1.8 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 8562.1 3.0 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 8563.1 3.0 C Compiler Test 24.1 47.5 2.0 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 63260.3 2.6 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 65.4 2.8 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 1076.0 2.1 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 29738.0 1.6 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 1266.0 2.1 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 2102.4 1.8 Process Creation Test 34.0 69.3 2.0 Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 896.0 2.8 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 8.0 2.1 ========= SUM of 13 items 29.8 AVERAGE 2.3 Regards, Markus. -- Marsu: "There really exist some people who live happily and satis- fied without computers." -- Frankie: "Oh no, they just emulate it!" ----- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "TWARECKI,PIOTR,MR" <B7NS000@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Subject: Sligtly Distorted MegaPixel Mono Message-ID: <06FEB94.11163893.0238@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sender: usenet@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Organization: McGill University Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 15:20:12 GMT Hi, the mono MegaPixel that I have has a slight linearity problem in the left part of the screen. It is nothing big, but it is annoying enough to make want to fix it. The problem shows itself as the vertical lines being slightly curved. Could this be easily fixed by adjusting the magnets on the back of the tube, or is this more or less a permanent problem? Thank you, Peter. Peter Twarecki <b7ns@MUSICB.McGill.CA>
From: B7NS000@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (TWARECKI,PIOTR,MR) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaPixel Mono distortion problem Message-ID: <06FEB94.11360664.0235@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Date: 6 Feb 94 15:31:08 GMT Sender: usenet@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Organization: McGill University Hello, my MegaPixel Mono has a slight problem with a non-linear display on the left half of the screen. It exhibits itself as all vertical lines being curved. What is strange is that each horizontal line seems to have different dot pitch as you "travel" along it, but the left edge of the screen is almost straight. This is not that bad, but annoying enough to make me want to fix it. Is this a common problem, which could be fixed by adjusting the magnets in the back of the tube, or is it impossible to fix? The monitor is the old style with no microphone. Thank you, Peter. Peter Twarecki <b7ns@MUSICB.McGill.CA>
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Date: 06 Feb 1994 18:33:51 GMT Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Feb6103351@fisher.Stanford.EDU> References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> In-reply-to: cedman@princeton.edu's message of Sun, 6 Feb 1994 00:03:13 GMT Excellent question -- I and about 6 other people/labs I know face the same choice within 6 months or so. Thus I would really appreciate your posting interesting info about this. One concern/question you didn't mention: What is the relative floating point performance on these machine? I don't remember seeing Specfp92 for any Pentium systems. I also wonder the Pentium really can be in the same class as the HP (this may be prejudice on my part). Another point I think you didn't mention: The price of software. Will NS really be $300 on the HP? Mathematica is about $300 with the academic site license for NSfip -- it is twice as much for our Sparc 2's (even though NSfip is faster, and the interface can hardly be compared). In time, software companies WILL realize that they can no longer charge much more for software just because the chip comes from HP instead of Intel, but I may not want to wait. Of course, this situation may be "better" for NS given that so few of the established software companies port anything to it, and the smaller ones that write NS stuff in general seem to be more in tune with the times. -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sligtly Distorted MegaPixel Mono Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 13:41:31 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <IhJHbPG00WBME2nt16@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <06FEB94.11163893.0238@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Feb-94 Sligtly Distorted MegaPixel.. by "TWARECKI,PIOTR,MR"@MUSI > the mono MegaPixel that I have has a slight linearity problem in the > left part of the screen. It is nothing big, but it is annoying enough > to make want to fix it. The problem shows itself as the vertical > lines being slightly curved. Could this be easily fixed by adjusting > the magnets on the back of the tube, or is this more or less a > permanent problem? Adjusting the magnets would be a royal pain, since they are glued into place and you really need to have the adjustment manual to correctly adjust them. (Adjusting monitors requires you to perform the adjustments in a series of steps so that you adjust them in the right order.) I'd suggest having your monitor looked at by a professional. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu (David A. Cheslow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: hardwire PC to NeXT (black) Date: 6 Feb 1994 19:09:34 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j3f9e$qa7@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I have a NeXTStation Turbo and woulod like to connect my 486SX to it as a terminal (nothing fancy... vt100 is fine). I have modified /etc/ttys to turn on terminal connections to ttya. I have connected port a on the NeXT to com2 on the PC (using a null modem cable and a 25->9 pin converter). No matter what I try, I can not get any communication going. Can someone who has done this give advice? Send e-mail please. -- =============================================================== The opinions expressed in this message are my own. The University of Michigan - Flint may not share my opinions. David A. Cheslow dcheslow@umich.edu School of Management, 344 CROB Phone: (810) 762-3309 University of Michigan - Flint Fax: (810) 762-3282
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Zenon Message-ID: <1994Feb6.190111.17461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Sun, 6 Feb 94 19:01:11 GMT Does anyone know if Zenon'ss systems work w/ NS?? In Computer Shopper (latest editon -- FEb '94) -- I saw an add for a system which looks like the lowst price/best deal I've seen. The only elements in question ar ethe brand of SCSI-II PCI controller they're using, and their video board. It is the: PCI Matrox MGA-II, 2mb, 64-bit graphics accelerator, 16m colors, 1280x1024 "up to 90 winmarks," "the fastest video board available today" ...does anyone know if NS supports this board?? Has anyone ever heard of it before? And does anyone know if 17" "MAG Digital" monitors are any good? bp PS --the add is on p.312 -- FEb '94 Comp. Shopper
From: qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How do you choose video card for next/486 system Date: 6 Feb 1994 19:50:25 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2j3hm1$92s@menudo.uh.edu> Hi, I have a 486/dx2-66 running nextstep3.2 with standard VGA. I'm getting tired of the big fonts from standard VGA driver. So I am thinking buying a video card. I have tried ATI Ultra Pro I think it is slow with 16-bit color also the price is not cheap. As for diamond viper VLB it claims much faster than ATI but no current support. I have to wait and see. Then the last choice, for the time being, might be 2-bit gray video card like Tseng Lab's VT4000 and STB's Horizon VLB. Did anyone over there who used 2-bit card ? Is it fast ( I can't tolerate slow displaying. I'd rather have much faster gray than a slow 16-bit color display)? Please tell me your opinions. Feng qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: 1GB in Stations Message-ID: <UARLBL9@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2ir3b8$ajk@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 20:17:46 GMT alfred@ca-risc.co.at wrote: > We are currently fitting some NeXTstations (non-turbos) with 1GB discs > internally. Our concerns are: > 1) Heat > 2) Power supply > Anyone have any experience with it? I installed an IBM 662 S12 inside a turbo station. It uses max. 24W, is fast, and is usable, IF you change one bit in mode select page 0. Without this change it will not work! Afterwards it runs great. It's the cheapest and fastest 1GB disk in europe. Believe me, I searched all advertisments I could find for months. The price is about DM 1700,- (as you posted from Austria, I thought, you might be interested.) I think you can install the Fujitsu (also about 25W) or the DEC DSP 3107. Those newer models should all meet the heat requirements, as they don't use more than NeXT's 400MB original disk. Anyway, you should ask dealers for details about the max. values. I only heard sad stories about the Toshiba, but I didn't use it, so it's just rumours. It's definitly slower than the IBM and DEC disks. Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Speed-Up of Stations Message-ID: <XARLB6EB@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2ir3ni$av8@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 20:20:43 GMT alfred@ca-risc.co.at wrote: > Has anyone speeded-up old NeXTstations (non-turbos)? Can it be done, should it > be done? > We own two kinds of older stations, one version already has the 72pin Simm > slots. Can that be upgraded to (from 8 * 4mB to 4 * 16mB in oder words)? You can buy a new motherboard from Sorbus, Duesseldorf (i.e. Bell Atlantic in Europe), nothing else will work. Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: gof@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gerald Fountain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 6 Feb 1994 20:41:48 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Just a few comments :-) In article <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, Markus Wenzel <mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wrote: >jmazo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes: > >>I am looking for a computer system that would fit the following >>specifications for the least amount of money, and would like the collective ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^ <Soap-box time -- Too much time working as a consultant ;-} > Note the underlying requirement. COST. This combined with the need to run NeXT-Step are the primary requirements. This is A Good Thing(TM) as the buyer is using the proper order in which to shop for a computer. First find the software you want/need to run. If it is only on one platform, you should buy that platform, be it a Mac, PC, or Timex Sinclair :-) Next you set the amount of money you can spend. Not set the hardware you "want." This is because, like buying anything, the incremental costs *always* add up. This is how car dealerships make their money (the extra's). It is very true in the computer market. Oh, I'll just get the 17" monitor over the 15", or I'll get the 420MB hard drive instead of the 350 and so on. Pick your price, then pick the hardware. Obviously you must adjust what you buy to what software you want to run. The underlying fact is that it is software which does the job, not the hardware. Sadly I have been called into offices only to tell them that the expen$ive new hardware joe computer salesman sold them will *not* do what they wanted and that they must a) change their method of work (bad) or b) get different hardware. <end of soap-box> >>wisdom of the net on the subject of acquiring (pointers to sellers would be >>appreciated as well) a computer with the following attributes: > >>1). Pentium (with cache expandable or shipped at 256 K) >Not necessary, because too expensive. It gives you a performance gain of >about 25% (in comparison to a DX2/66) for twice the price. If you want to >get a good performance-for-money ratio, Pentium is out of the question. >If money is secondary, wait for a HP Gecko - at least twice the performance of >a Pentium. The added cost of the Pentium is *not* double. True, the chip itself is roughly double that of the 486/66, but the *system* cost only increases slightly, say 25%, which is about *your* estimate of the performance increase. If the user is going to do lots of floating point, the performance gain will be significantly higher. >>2). PCI bus (version 2.0) >>3). 12 M RAM >A joke, eh? 24 MB should be the minimum for any serious work with a PCI >or even Pentium system. How much memory you purchase should be based both on software requiremnts (see above) and possible expansion. Memory requirements for NeXT-Step probably factor into both the windowing system, swap, etc. If you buy a nice system but cripple it by having too little memory, you will run *much* slower than a lesser machine with more memory. Remember the fact that a memory access is on the order of 1,000-10,000 times faster than having to swap from disk! But also look to the future. Buy 4Mb based simms (ie, 4 Mega bit chips) rather than 1Mb simms. This way you will not lose your 1MB simms if you upgrade and need more simm slots. It may cost 10% more today, but it will save you more later. Also as a personal preference, given the choice of parity or no-parity memory, get the parity. If you want to know why e-mail me as it is a somewhat lengthy story. Just be advised that some companies are selling systems at a slightly lower cost because they are not using parity checked memory. >>4). Local Bus Video (with video card to support at least 1280 x 1024 x 8-bit >>grayscale x 70 HZ refresh) >Why a Local Bus if you have PCI? The ATI GUP PCI already works, some smart >guys found out that it is only a minor patch to the driver source. >The resolution you want is supported, but only at 60 Hz. Thus, I recommend >1120x832x8 bit at 68 Hz. The ATI is real fast at 8 bit grayscale. Point of clarification: PCI is a "local bus" type. There are two competing standards. VESA (which will do 64-bit memory in rev 2.0) and PCI (Intel). There are pro's and con's to each type, but until VESA 2.0 is available, PCI is the only comfortable choice for a Pentium system. *But*, if I could wait, I would wait for the fixed PCI chipsets to be released which support the writeback mode properly. > >>5). 17 (or 19) inch grayscale monitor to mate with above >OK. But I think it's not easy to find grayscale monitors. > >>6). 450 M hard drive (not necessarily very fast one), IDE or SCSI >Forget IDE. Tsk, Tsk. COST is a factor. For now IDE might be a viable choice as the cost of the controller is significantly less. But since we are also looking for a SCSI CD-ROM (higher cost but a better choice IMHO), the added cost of the SCSI controller is justified. IDE drives are fast, and the data transfer rate can be *very* good off of a decent local bus (PCI/VESA) card. Just make sure whatever SCSI adapter you get is supported directly by NeXT-Step and has all the drivers you need to support the CD-ROM you select. Do not underestimate the speed of a drive. In a unix type environment (like NeXT-Step), the speed of a drive can be very apparent. When you *do* swap (and you will), access time and transfer rate become significant and noticeable. > >>7). SCSI CD-ROM drive (w/SCSI controller) >Talus' driver for the PCI onboard SCSI controller is supposed to be released >soon. I would suggest a double speed drive. There are several SCSI types at a reasonable cost. The cost increment from a "single" speed drive is acceptably low considering the speed inprovement. > >>8). 4 removable-media bays (I guess this means it is probably a tower or >>mini-tower) Most mini-towers support two or three 5 1/4" (half-height) external bays and two 3 1/2" external bays. Full towers often have the same external offerings and add a few more additional internal bays. >>9). A reasonable fax-modem (fast, but not the "latest and greatest") >ZyXEL. NXFax 1.04 will be released soon, too. Take a look at the US-Robotics 14.4/FAX Sportster line. Fast and cheap. The latest ads I have seen have it for about $169 for the external model! (and about $159 for the internal). Remember, for an external modem running at high rates to make sure your serial card uses a 16550 UART chip. >>10). An ink jet printer (HP-style) I like the HP 500 model a lot. Reliable, and widely supported. (as a side note, it also supports enough of the LaserJet commands for use in very old programs without DeskJet support). The Cannon is a little cheaper, but I don't think it is as widely supported. (You are not running Windows so printer support will be an issue). >>11). MOST IMPORTANTLY, I have to be able to run NeXTSTEP (however it is >>spelled these days) on it. >>12). The purchase will have to be made so that the system would arrive at >>about March 10th so I have time to install NeXTSTEP before my finals. > >Regards, >Markus. Jerry -- Jerry Fountain | Laboratory for Fluid Mechanics, Chaos, and Mixing gof@bart.chem-eng.nwu.edu | Northwestern University (708) 491-3555 (Office) | Department of Chemical Engineering (708) 491-3728 (FAX) | 2145 Sheridan Road, Evanston, IL 60208
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 6 Feb 1994 21:27:52 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu>, Gerald Fountain <gof@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wrote: >Just a few comments :-) > >In article <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, >Markus Wenzel <mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wrote: >>jmazo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes: >> >>>I am looking for a computer system that would fit the following >>>specifications for the least amount of money, and would like the >>>collective [Misc general excellant advice deleted] >> >>>1). Pentium (with cache expandable or shipped at 256 K) >>Not necessary, because too expensive. It gives you a performance gain of >>about 25% (in comparison to a DX2/66) for twice the price. If you want to >>get a good performance-for-money ratio, Pentium is out of the question. >>If money is secondary, wait for a HP Gecko - at least twice the performance of >>a Pentium. >The added cost of the Pentium is *not* double. True, the chip itself is >roughly double that of the 486/66, but the *system* cost only increases >slightly, say 25%, which is about *your* estimate of the performance >increase. If the user is going to do lots of floating point, the performance >gain will be significantly higher. NextStep uses ALOT of Floating Pt. The display postscript makes FP a requirement. The larger cache makes sense for NS. I know that some PC rags have said that extra 2nd level cache doesn't add much performace, but I think this is applicable only to Dos/Windows. This a fully multitasking enviornment and at any given time 20-30 programs are active and would be hindered by inadequate cache. > >>>2). PCI bus (version 2.0) >>>3). 12 M RAM >>A joke, eh? 24 MB should be the minimum for any serious work with a PCI >>or even Pentium system. > >How much memory you purchase should be based both on software requiremnts >(see above) and possible expansion. Memory requirements for NeXT-Step >probably factor into both the windowing system, swap, etc. If you buy a nice >system but cripple it by having too little memory, you will run *much* >slower than a lesser machine with more memory. Remember the fact that a >memory access is on the order of 1,000-10,000 times faster than having to >swap from disk! > For a Black+White system 12 Mb is should be adequate for the typical mix of Applications. I'd suggest 16mb, but then again I use only 16mb for my color system. The VM and swapping system is pretty robust even under rather severe overloads of available ram. >But also look to the future. Buy 4Mb based simms (ie, 4 Mega bit chips) >rather than 1Mb simms. This way you will not lose your 1MB simms if you >upgrade and need more simm slots. It may cost 10% more today, but it will >save you more later. Also as a personal preference, given the choice of >parity or no-parity memory, get the parity. If you want to know why e-mail >me as it is a somewhat lengthy story. Just be advised that some companies >are selling systems at a slightly lower cost because they are not using >parity checked memory. > The advice is quite valid but memory densities have already passed another generation. My recent experience is that you should by 16MB simms. Most recent systems only have 4 slots, so the ONW is probably going to get 4MB simms anyway. The next 4Mb would fill these slots and then he'd have to take out 4mb for every 16mb simm he inserted :-( >>>5). 17 (or 19) inch grayscale monitor to mate with above >>OK. But I think it's not easy to find grayscale monitors. >> >>>6). 450 M hard drive (not necessarily very fast one), IDE or SCSI >>Forget IDE. >Tsk, Tsk. COST is a factor. For now IDE might be a viable choice as the >cost of the controller is significantly less. But since we are also looking >for a SCSI CD-ROM (higher cost but a better choice IMHO), the added cost of >the SCSI controller is justified. IDE drives are fast, and the data transfer >rate can be *very* good off of a decent local bus (PCI/VESA) card. Just make >sure whatever SCSI adapter you get is supported directly by NeXT-Step and >has all the drivers you need to support the CD-ROM you select. > >Do not underestimate the speed of a drive. In a unix type environment (like >NeXT-Step), the speed of a drive can be very apparent. When you *do* swap >(and you will), access time and transfer rate become significant and >noticeable. > SCSI performance (ISA controller Adaptec 1542) is almost twice the IDE-local bus on my system. But the IDE is generally just as fast as our Nextstations. There's limit of two drives on the typical IDE interface, with the SCSI being more flexible in this regard. Perhaps I need a better IDE card, but I've already decided to go to SCSI myself. >>>9). A reasonable fax-modem (fast, but not the "latest and greatest") >>ZyXEL. NXFax 1.04 will be released soon, too. > >Take a look at the US-Robotics 14.4/FAX Sportster line. Fast and cheap. The >latest ads I have seen have it for about $169 for the external model! (and >about $159 for the internal). Remember, for an external modem running at >high rates to make sure your serial card uses a 16550 UART chip. The Next is currently rather picky as to which cards it supports for FAX. Until NXFax comes out, I'd defer this part of the purchase if fax is a critical use. Of course 28.8k modems will probably be common by summer (I hope). -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: More on Envelope printing (SUMMARY INFO) Date: 6 Feb 1994 22:41:34 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2j3o6e$lt3@alf.uib.no> Just to let everyone know, most seem to have misunderstood what I originally posted. The envelopes _are_ fed _into_ the printer without problem, drawn by the rollers under the toner, and get toner applied correctly (i.e. what I printed out :-). The problem is/was that the next set of rollers don't grab the envelope - whcih has now passed the thin wire array and is lying in the bottom just before the rollers which fuse the toner. There are (at least) two set rollers - input/feed rollers and output/fusing rollers. It seems (my hypothesis) that my envelopes are too "thin" (they measure 22cm by 11cm - 11cm is not "wide" enough) and when released by the input rollers hasn't gotten far enough for the output rollers to catch it. By placing a sheet of paper under the envelope, held fast by the envelopes "cover", the input rollers can keep pushing the envelope far enough for the output rollers to grab it and pull the entire mess through. A crude ASCII view from the side - the envelope is at front (left) with print surface up, and the cover is laid flat with a piece of paper in the crease. I fed the whole thing into the printer and it worked. ( I know the crease isn't square - sorry) ----------- | ------------------------------------------- ----- Well, my hypothesis, I don't know if it's true. Just to clear up the problem :-) Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: gof@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gerald Fountain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 6 Feb 1994 22:27:42 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2j3qsu$j3k@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu>, Jerry Weiss <jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wrote: >In article <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu>, >Gerald Fountain <gof@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wrote: >>But also look to the future. Buy 4Mb based simms (ie, 4 Mega bit chips) >>rather than 1Mb simms. This way you will not lose your 1MB simms if you >>upgrade and need more simm slots. It may cost 10% more today, but it will >>save you more later. Also as a personal preference, given the choice of >>parity or no-parity memory, get the parity. If you want to know why e-mail >>me as it is a somewhat lengthy story. Just be advised that some companies >>are selling systems at a slightly lower cost because they are not using >>parity checked memory. >> > >The advice is quite valid but memory densities have already passed another >generation. My recent experience is that you should by 16MB simms. Most >recent systems only have 4 slots, so the ONW is probably going to get 4MB >simms anyway. The next 4Mb would fill these slots and then he'd have to >take out 4mb for every 16mb simm he inserted :-( True, but the incremental cost of using 16Mb simms is still pretty high. The cost benefit can be minimal of the current premium for the higher density is too high. Jerry -- Jerry Fountain | Laboratory for Fluid Mechanics, Chaos, and Mixing gof@bart.chem-eng.nwu.edu | Northwestern University (708) 491-3555 (Office) | Department of Chemical Engineering (708) 491-3728 (FAX) | 2145 Sheridan Road, Evanston, IL 60208
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Message-ID: <CKoBAw.32E@relief.com> Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) Organization: Relief Consulting & Development References: <2ibd37$dns@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 00:13:44 GMT In article <2ibd37$dns@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble) writes: > The DEC XL is not certified to run NeXTSTEP, though I have heard from at > least one person who has seen NS running on the XL. So, perhaps it will > be certified at some point. > > > In article <CKAy10.8t@lysis.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes: > > Hi, > > Has anyone experienced NS on a DECpc XL, PCI bus with Pentium chip?? > > They have a PCI Viper video card - a driver soon available? > > Does that machine have PCI 2.0? > > > > > > Any comments are welcome! > > > > Thanks > > > > +----------------------------------+ > > | Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch> | > > | Institut de Recherche Lysis | > > | Cotes de Montbenon 8 | > > | CH-1003 LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND | > > | Tel. ++ 41 21 - 312 91 91 | > > | Fax. ++ 41 21 - 312 93 43 | > > +----------------------------------+ According to what was said last night at the PSNUG meeting, DEC is working with NeXT to get the DECpc xl 560 machines certified to run NS. It'll probably still be a week or two (or more) before all the bugs are worked out. John -- John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953 4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!! Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer --
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Date: 6 Feb 1994 23:39:44 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2j3v40$bk2@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <1994Feb5.190904.5731@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: >In article <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert >Morris) writes: >> I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a >> laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have >> picked up the drivers from the archive servers, I have special ordered a >> cable, all to no avail. THIS SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROBLEM!!!! I am about to >> throw in the towel on NeXT. I had planned to convert my entire research >> computing network to NS, but am changing plans in light of this absurdity. >> Support is invisible. It's a great OS, but nothing is worth this hassle. >> >> I will gladly pay for a solution to this problem. For now I am reduced to >> using my old Mac IIcx. At least the damn thing works. >I would suggest purchasing an Emulex NetJet card for the printer. >Then just hang it on the network, make the printcap entry, and wonder why >you ever bothered with the serial ports while enjoying problem-free >fast printing... >I am assuming the same type card that fits in out HP 4Si would work, >you should of course check. >-- >Nathan "USENET" Janette >PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Precisely......hang it on the network with a ethernet card..........HP sells one...........this is much faster than either the serial or parallel ports...... ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jonathan Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zenon Date: 6 Feb 1994 14:43:55 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2j3kqc$c5g@cobber.cord.edu> References: <1994Feb6.190111.17461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> In article <1994Feb6.190111.17461@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, Blake Patterson <bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu> wrote: > Does anyone know if Zenon'ss systems work w/ NS?? In Computer >Shopper (latest editon -- FEb '94) -- I saw an add for a system which >looks like the lowst price/best deal I've seen. The only elements in >question ar ethe brand of SCSI-II PCI controller they're using, and their >video board. It is the: I'm not sure if NS runs on the Zenon. >PCI Matrox MGA-II, 2mb, 64-bit graphics accelerator, 16m colors, 1280x1024 >"up to 90 winmarks," "the fastest video board available today" > > ...does anyone know if NS supports this board?? Has anyone ever >heard of it before? And does anyone know if 17" "MAG Digital" monitors are >any good? No NeXTstep does not support this board (it is a proprietary chipset). It is too bad because this board does 64bit access to it's VRAM. It can be configured up to 4Mb of VRAM. Also, Matrox's MGA-I boards have Z-buffer technology. These cards are tailored for CAD and 3D modelling. > >bp > >PS --the add is on p.312 -- FEb '94 Comp. Shopper > -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Date: 7 Feb 1994 00:03:48 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j40h4$jlg@inxs.concert.net> References: <CKoBAw.32E@relief.com> In article <CKoBAw.32E@relief.com> jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler) writes: > In article <2ibd37$dns@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay > P. Trimble) writes: > > The DEC XL is not certified to run NeXTSTEP, though I have heard from at > > least one person who has seen NS running on the XL. So, perhaps it will > > be certified at some point. > > > > > > In article <CKAy10.8t@lysis.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes: > > > Hi, > > > Has anyone experienced NS on a DECpc XL, PCI bus with Pentium chip?? > > > They have a PCI Viper video card - a driver soon available? > > > Does that machine have PCI 2.0? > > > > > > > > > Any comments are welcome! > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > +----------------------------------+ > > > | Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch> | > > > | Institut de Recherche Lysis | > > > | Cotes de Montbenon 8 | > > > | CH-1003 LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND | > > > | Tel. ++ 41 21 - 312 91 91 | > > > | Fax. ++ 41 21 - 312 93 43 | > > > +----------------------------------+ > > According to what was said last night at the PSNUG meeting, DEC is working > with NeXT to get the DECpc xl 560 machines certified to run NS. It'll > probably still be a week or two (or more) before all the bugs are worked out. > > John > > > -- > John Feiler jjfeiler@relief.com > Relief Consulting & Development (206) 743-3953 > 4926 152nd St. SW NeXTmail Welcome!!! > Edmonds, WA 98026-4433 Independent NeXTSTEP Developer We currently have an XL 560 which we are shipping this week to a customer is SC. The machine has now been certified by NeXT, however the driver for the video will not be ready posted to ftp.next.com for about two weeks. The beta driver we received from DEC is very stable and our customer in South Carolina will split almost evenly between the XL and the NEW DATA GENERAL box which exceeds the DEC in raw speed and will be equal to the DEC as far as video (although it is not certified yet, we expect delivery tomorrow bring DEC to two certified PCs and DATA GENERAL to three. Go DG! Dave > -- -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 07 Feb 1994 00:35:34 GMT Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94Feb6163534@fisher.Stanford.EDU> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu> In-reply-to: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 6 Feb 1994 21:27:52 GMT In article <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > For a Black+White system 12 Mb is should be adequate for the typical mix > of Applications. I'd suggest 16mb, but then again I use only 16mb for > my color system. The VM and swapping system is pretty robust even under > rather severe overloads of available ram. I beg to differ. My personal Mono station has 32 MB and I have to reboot it every other day. When using Mathematica, I reboot it several times per day. The other NeXTs (all Mono so far) in the lab have between 16 and 24 MB and they need constant rebooting even under low usage. This is not to say that some people could not get by with less, but I must agree with the original poster that it is a waste of money not to have sufficient memory (case in point: my personal 25 MHz station is faster than the lab Turbo's for my work because I reduce them to constant swapping with practically any job). My next machine (Gecko or Pentium) will have 128 MB RAM... -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Message-ID: <CKssBA.2so@zoodle.robin.de> Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Organization: meow!!! References: <2iuidv$g3@darkstar.isi.edu> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 10:11:34 GMT Mike Carlton writes > Required Monitor: > 11.8in (1024x768) 10595 > (Flat Panel Color Display) Steep... But wouldn't that make a verrrrry decent laptop? Considering how SMALL the Gecko mainboard is (28.5 * 14.5 cm^2) that could be a reality soon! Bye, Uli -- An EMACS missionary is brooding over a problem, obviously puzzled. A VI disciple comes along, sees his facial expression, and says: "Ctrl-x Ctrl-c ..."
From: emt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Michael Taleff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 7 Feb 1994 02:42:10 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Message-ID: <2j49q2$122@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu> <MAGNUS.94Feb6163534@fisher.Stanford.EDU> In article <MAGNUS.94Feb6163534@fisher.Stanford.EDU>, Magnus Nordborg <magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >In article <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > >> For a Black+White system 12 Mb is should be adequate for the typical mix >> of Applications. I'd suggest 16mb, but then again I use only 16mb for >> my color system. The VM and swapping system is pretty robust even under >> rather severe overloads of available ram. > >I beg to differ. My personal Mono station has 32 MB and I have to >reboot it every other day. When using Mathematica, I reboot it >several times per day. The other NeXTs (all Mono so far) in the lab >have between 16 and 24 MB and they need constant rebooting even under >low usage. > ****Stuff Deleted********* I used to have this problem, but it had to do with System 3.0? and earlier versions handling of the swap space, ie. they allowed it to grow without bound. System 3.1 does not allow that to happen according to my experience of several months with it (on 25MHz NeXTstation). When I was running earlier versions I too had to reboot to regain hard drive space taken up by the bloated swap, and MMA is especially bad at filling the swap. I believe that this was a common experience for other users. I don't know about non-NeXT hardware though. A curious thing happens with MMA now though. Instead of the swap growing with MMA, after running some models for a while MMA will get killed. I suspect that this behavior is related to the OS telling MMA that it can't have anymore swap.?? I'm running MMA 2.0, which is about three years old now. I haven't enlisted in the Wolfram upgrade program due to it's prohibitive cost. But, if anyone knows that newer MMA versions fix this and knows of a way to get a cheap or preferably free upgrade I'd be grateful of any info. Eric #####NoSigIsGoodSig####################################################
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 7 Feb 1994 03:01:37 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j4auh$m2r@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <MAGNUS.94Feb6163534@fisher.Stanford.EDU> magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes: >jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > > For a Black+White system 12 Mb is should be adequate for the typical mix > > of Applications. I'd suggest 16mb, but then again I use only 16mb for > > my color system. The VM and swapping system is pretty robust even under > > rather severe overloads of available ram. > > I beg to differ. My personal Mono station has 32 MB and I have to > reboot it every other day. When using Mathematica, I reboot it > several times per day. The other NeXTs (all Mono so far) in the lab > have between 16 and 24 MB and they need constant rebooting even under > low usage. It really depends on what you are doing, and what release of NS you are running. I certainly would recommend 16-20meg for a greyscale system, but how often you reboot depends on what you are doing and how much free disk space you have. As for reboots, I have two greyscale stations. One has 20meg and is home, which means I'm rebooting it simply because I need to power it down every day. The one in my office has 32meg, and has a few users who telnet into it (as well as me on the console). The average time between reboots on that system is over 40 days. Right now it's closing in on 100 straight days (it's 98 days, 8 hours and 28 minutes -- but who's counting...). I've experienced problems when playing with 24-bit color images, of course, which is why my color NeXTstation is up at 48meg (it also has other users who telnetting into it while I'm using it at the console). And I can believe that heavy Mathematica use would want lots of VM. Not everyone needs to load up their machine with VM just to get reasonable performance though. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <1994Feb7.034521.17905@cs.yale.edu> Date: 7 Feb 94 03:45:21 GMT References: <jeffo.760503569@uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT In article <jeffo.760503569@uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes: > Nathan F. Janette writes: > > >Then just hang it on the network, make the printcap entry, and wonder why > >you ever bothered with the serial ports while enjoying problem-free > >fast printing... > > Sounds to me like some hassle compared to the Mac. It was no hassle at all, and it works fine. The setup is the same for any print protocol, whether it's unix/lpd, Mac, Novell, etc. The only issue we experienced was fixed with a software upgrade from Emulex. I look forward to upgrading all our NEXTSTEP systems to 3.2 so fonts will be automatically downloaded with the print jobs. The only issue I have with the NetJet card is that one cannot spool multiple copies to it from the print panel, because it is acting as an lpd host, but has no spool area. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <1994Feb7.034804.17961@cs.yale.edu> Date: 7 Feb 94 03:48:04 GMT References: <2j3v40$bk2@news.u.washington.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT In article <2j3v40$bk2@news.u.washington.edu> bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: > nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > >I would suggest purchasing an Emulex NetJet card for the printer. > Precisely......hang it on the network with a ethernet card..........HP > sells one... If you wish to use the HP card you'll need to get some software, as the card doesn't work with NEXTSTEP out of the box. I recall seeing some announcement about such software in csn.announce a few months ago. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb6125738@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: 6 Feb 94 17:57:38 GMT References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University In-Reply-To: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org's message of 5 Feb 1994 09:18:35 +0100 To: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Originator: news@nimaster In article <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: jmazo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes: >I am looking for a computer system that would fit the following >specifications for the least amount of money, and would like the collective >wisdom of the net on the subject of acquiring (pointers to sellers would be >appreciated as well) a computer with the following attributes: >1). Pentium (with cache expandable or shipped at 256 K) Not necessary, because too expensive. It gives you a performance gain of about 25% (in comparison to a DX2/66) for twice the price. Not according to the benchmarks I've seen. A 60 MHz Pentium runs code optimized for a 486 about 70% faster and code optimized for a Pentium about 100% faster than a DX2/66. This is a rather meager performance increase for a CPU upgrade, but not even Intel would dare to put out a CPU which is only 25% faster than the last one. If you want to get a good performance-for-money ratio, Pentium is out of the question. If money is secondary, wait for a HP Gecko - at least twice the performance of a Pentium. Not according to the numbers quoted from Open Systems Today here recently. A 66 MHz Pentium has an integer performance (which is what you care about mostly unless you do scientific simulations) of 67 SPECint92, just in the middle between the low-end 712/60 at 58 SPECint92 and the high-end 712/80 at 84 SPECint92. If you have reliable numbers which say otherwise, I'd be genuinely grateful if you let me know as I'm in the process of deciding between a Pentium and a Gecko and performance is very important to me. But as it seems right now, integer performance is a toss-up between the two of them and almost all other indications point to the Pentium, so I'm leaning in that direction. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: 1GB in Stations Message-ID: <1994Feb7.004849.9618@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <UARLBL9@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 00:48:49 GMT In article <UARLBL9@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: > alfred@ca-risc.co.at wrote: > > We are currently fitting some NeXTstations (non-turbos) with 1GB discs > > internally. Our concerns are: > > 1) Heat > > 2) Power supply > > Anyone have any experience with it? You should be very concerned about both factors. The NeXT 400 meg disk is a 12W drive according to the Segate manual. Any drive that consumes more power than that will probably be pretty border line. (The 400 meg drive pretty much maxes out the cooling capacity of a turbo). Now, the newer 1" drives would increase the amount of space between the lid of the case and the top of the drive. Anyone putting a a drive in that consumes 2X that amount of power is probably asking for cooling problems. I had heard at one time that the larger drives (full height more power) could suffer a 30% lifespan reduction do to excess temp. > > I installed an IBM 662 S12 inside a turbo station. It uses max. 24W, > is fast, and is usable, IF you change one bit in mode select page 0. > Without this change it will not work! Afterwards it runs great. > > It's the cheapest and fastest 1GB disk in europe. Believe me, > I searched all advertisments I could find for months. The price is > about DM 1700,- (as you posted from Austria, I thought, you might be > interested.) > > I think you can install the Fujitsu (also about 25W) or the DEC > DSP 3107. Those newer models should all meet the heat requirements, > as they don't use more than NeXT's 400MB original disk. Anyway, > you should ask dealers for details about the max. values. I only > heard sad stories about the Toshiba, but I didn't use it, so it's > just rumours. It's definitly slower than the IBM and DEC disks. > > Ciao, Stephan > -- > trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Subject: NEC 6fgp with Next Black Message-ID: <1994Feb7.065205.7542@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Distribution: na Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 06:52:05 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: 1GB in Stations Message-ID: <1994Feb7.075243.14834@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <UARLBL9@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1994Feb7.004849.9618@FreemanSoft.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 07:52:43 GMT >>In article <UARLBL9@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de >>(Stephan Trebels) writes: >>> alfred@ca-risc.co.at wrote: >>> > We are currently fitting some NeXTstations (non-turbos) with 1GB discs >>> > internally. Our concerns are: >>> > 1) Heat >>> > 2) Power supply >>> > Anyone have any experience with it? >> My advisor and I bought 2 one gig HP drives from Tecor about two years ago. Mine is in an external case hooked to a NeXTSTation Color Turbo, and his is the internal drive of his mono station. His machine is on all the time, and has never had any problems. I don't have any more details on what the drive is, it's an HP 1.2GB 3.5" drive - whatever was ~$1800 (I vaguely remember) back two years ago. Hope that's useful... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 18:08:57 GMT rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) writes: >I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a >laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have >picked up the drivers from the archive servers, I have special ordered a >cable, all to no avail. THIS SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROBLEM!!!! I am about to >throw in the towel on NeXT. I had planned to convert my entire research >computing network to NS, but am changing plans in light of this absurdity. >Support is invisible. It's a great OS, but nothing is worth this hassle. >I will gladly pay for a solution to this problem. For now I am reduced to >using my old Mac IIcx. At least the damn thing works. Call me weird, but I would not mind a paid trip to Milwaukee. That being said, I couldn't do that in good conscious, as getting a NeXT and an H LJ 4M to speak to each other isn't that hard. 1 - Make certain you have a null modem cable between your NeXT and your HP. 2 - The NEXTSTEP driver for the PostScript-based LaserJet 4's (including the 4m) is generally not available on the net. You need to call HP and get it, but it is free. Now, if you are certain you have a null modem cable, and you are using the right driver, and the problem you are seeing is an error code 40 (or some- such) on the HP's display, all you need to do is reset the printer and it should work fine. -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 608-2144 Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 495-3036
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? - HP is! Message-ID: <CKuK1o.LI5@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <IZQLBQXR@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:08:11 GMT > I think you'd better buy a blank Gecko and get the addons for > realistic prices at a third party ;-) > > Absolutely. You can get a first rate 21 inch monitor for about $2k > and an extremely fast barracuda 2.1 GByte SCSI drive for another $2k. > Add another $1k or so for a reasonable amount of RAM from a third > party and you get a system which is in every way superior to the one > above for less than $8k. NO WAY! You won't get any of the 712 systems without the HP peripherals and that's what makes the systems 'expensive'. That's what they told me here in Switzerland. They offer a 30% academic discount on the Swiss list prices, but when I read the stuff below ... > .., but an HP rep at at least one US university with a good > relationship with HP has confirmed a price of $2.6k for a base > configuration HP Gecko. I am really pi$$ed off - Can anybody confirm such offers? -Florian Disclaimer: I'd rather pay for overseas shipping ...
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A Great Idea Whose Time Has Come!!! (not MINE : -) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 94 12:33:00 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2j5cms$8at@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <1994Feb1.065607.14517@talus.com> <jeffo.760250952@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In article <jeffo.760250952@uiuc.edu>, <jeffo@uiuc.edu> writes: > WordPerfect (maybe, somehow, we can get them to > change their mind. It happened on the Amiga with an equally capable > port.) and Frame, just to name a few movers and shakers in the word > processing and DTP community. > -- > J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please) Well, I have been using WordPerfect 5.1 on my NeXT/I for a few months. What's really good is that I can share docs with my DOS/Windows/Mac brothers without thinking about it. I totally buy your point, though. C.
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Date: Mon, 07 Feb 94 12:39:12 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2j5cum$8at@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Robert D. Morris, MD, PhD Phone:414 257-8200 > Medical College of Wisconsin Fax: 414 257-8353 > Milwaukee, WI 53226 Internet: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu Not the Robert Morris of Internet Worm fame?
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ECESYS blurb from customer Date: Mon, 07 Feb 94 12:40:57 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2j5d2o$8at@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <2iukjb$afg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Folks at eCesys are extremely honest, NS savvy, and what > is more, answer the mail and phones. Try them if you're > in the market for an NS box. > I'm not affiliated, just a customer. > > Robert de Lucca > The Johns Hopkins University > I'm interested to hear your inpressions. Do you know if these guys sell their kit outside the US (ie., the UK)? Thanks, C.
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: do I need to terminate a CUBE w/o an internal (but w external) HD? Date: 7 Feb 1994 13:21:31 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2j5f8r$qba@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu I asked this question and many of you responded. Thanks! All of you said that I can safely remove the internal HD and everything will be fine except Richard who sounds (and is) VERY knowledgeable and says I still need an internal SCSI terminator. So I ask you guys again: who's right? If Richard is right then where do I get one terminator like that? Can I use my Mac IIfx internal terminator? Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bakerb@il.us.swissbank.com (Brian Baker) Subject: Re: Is it OK to remove internal fan of a CUBE and use an external one? Message-ID: <1994Feb7.144556.5877@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <CKMt37.12G@infoserv.com> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:45:56 GMT (Paul Nevai) writes: #I'm thinking about removing the noisy and ineffective internal fan of my CUBE #and just use a regular (powerful) fan external fan permanently directed at #the CUBE? Is this OK? Any suggestions? Where should the fan blow? Front? #Back? Sides? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul The "muffin" fan in the Cube is a very standard design. Any decent electronics store should be able to sell you a replacement fan that would be more effective and less noisy. I'd go this route rather than remove it entirely. Brian Baker. bakerb@swissbank.com bbaker@its.com
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with GEC hardware? Date: 7 Feb 1994 15:31:05 GMT Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Message-ID: <2j5mrp$bc3@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> Anyone out there have any experience with the GEC NEXTSTEP computers? Are they high quality system? Any comments on performance, satisfaction etc. Thanks. Jay
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: When will Drivers be available for Bus Logic 445S SCSI VLB Controller? Date: 7 Feb 1994 16:35:36 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <2j5n48$jrc@gyda.ifi.uio.no> References: <1994Feb4.143132.15462@hal.depaul.edu> Plans seems to change. The NextAnswers is now revised to "Planned Q1 94" ! I hope it doesn't take to long ! Arne Haarseth
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SupraFax 144i modem for $119 at Sam's a good deal? Date: 7 Feb 1994 15:23:11 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2j5mcv$rnu@menudo.uh.edu> I have never used a modem in a long time, and know nothing about what hardware/software setup I need to run a modem from my NS-FIP machine at home. Have checked the FAQ but that had nothing there. Sam's Wholesale (and possibly Walmart) is carrying the SupraFax 144i internal modem for $119. The price looks good. - Is this a good model or can I do better in terms of features for similar price? - Will this work with NS-FIP? - Is tip,cu and kermit enough to dial out? Any nice GUI based program recommendations? - the docs that came with NS-FIP 3.1 talk at length about how we can send faxes from the print panel etc. But it seems (have read) NS cannot send fax without third party software such as NSFAX. The manuals don't say so, so what gives? Are the NS-FIP manuals incorrect? Please advise. -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1542cf and ProAudio Studio ? Date: 7 Feb 1994 17:04:35 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <2j5oqj$l9p@gyda.ifi.uio.no> Has anyone made this combination work ? My PC hangs up after a while when I run any app. using sound. I would appreciate any sugestions for hardware and software (DMA and IRQ setup) setup. Arne Herseth (arneha@ifi.uio.no)
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 7 Feb 1994 16:49:56 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j5rfk$da2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <2irf3i$ani@darkstar.isi.edu> <2iskcm$3t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2iuidv$g3@darkstar.isi.edu> In article <2iuidv$g3@darkstar.isi.edu>, carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: < bit deleted> |> |> In response to a couple of requests, and since the price list I have |> doesn't say don't distribute, here is an edited version of it (I'm not |> going to type in the entire thing). Contact an HP sales rep for |> an actual quote. |> |> --mike |> |> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |> |> Here's a partial summary of the 712/60 and 712/80i price lists I have. |> Note that the 60 and 80i have separate price lists, but for all of the |> items I've listed here the prices are identical. The main exception is |> that it appears that the 15in monitor isn't available with the 80i. |> |> The price list makes it sound as if you must purchase a CPU, monitor, |> memory, disk, keyboard and OS. I've listed a couple of the options, |> many others are available. |> |> cheers, |> --mike |> |> 712/60 Bundled configuration: |> Required: 712/60 bundle 3890 |> 712/60, 15" monitor, 16MB, 260MB disk, and |> |> Required keyboard & mouse 105 |> (called "Workstation Localization Kit") |> |> 712/60 and 712/80i Workstation prices: |> U.S. List price |> Required SPU: |> HP 712/60 2085 |> HP 712/80i 5135 |> |> Required Monitor: |> 15in (1024x768) 625 (appears to not be available with 80i) |> 17in (1024x768) 1800 |> 17in (1280x1024) 2200 |> 19in (1280x1024) 3800 |> 11.8in (1024x768) 10595 |> (Flat Panel Color Display) |> |> Required Memory: |> 16MB (2x8MB) 1280 |> 24MB (2x8MB+2x4MB) 1920 |> 32MB (4x8MB) 2560 |> 32MB (2x16MB) 3840 |> 64MB (4x16MB) 7680 |> |> Required Internal Disk: |> 260MB SCSI II 500 |> 525MB SCSI II 1200 |> 1GB SCSI II 2100 |> |> Required keyboard & mouse 105 |> Required OS Release 9.0 125 |> |> Optional floppy drive 125 |> Optional 2nd serial port 295 |> Optional external CDROM 1095 |> The question is what is ment by "Required", is that you have to buy one of the list with the system. Or you need one of the following to make the system run. Certainly the latter is true. The question is are HP working on the principle of the former. Unfortunatly my impression from one chat with an HP rep was that you had to buy one item from each of the required lists. john
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Cube SCSI termination power ? Date: 7 Feb 1994 17:00:44 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2j5s3s$1m6@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some things I always wanted to know about Cubes and SCSI : Does the NeXT Cube 68040 motherboard provide SCSI termination power ? Or should one other SCSI device provide that (like in some Macs) ? How is SCSI termination supposed to be set up anyway ? Simple configuration : Cube with internal HD, no external SCSI device. So both internal HD and SCSI controller on the motherboard should be terminated, as they are at the ends of the SCSI bus. Now I plug in an external device. It has to be terminated, because it is at the end of the chain. But how do I remove the termination from the Cube's motherboard ? Or does this happen automagically, when I plug in the external device ? Thanks for any info, Ernst. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn) Subject: High Resolution printing via NeXTMail Message-ID: <CKv0Mo.B2J@pts.mot.com> Keywords: next, printing, postscript, high resolution Sender: news@pts.mot.com Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:06:24 GMT Does anyone know where I can get some Linotronic output (or equivilent) ASAP via NeXTMail? I recall seeing an AD in NeXTWorld for a firm with this service. I unfortunately cannot find my old NeXTWorlds. Does anyone have a pointer to his or any other firm for me. Or, If you know of a good shop in the South Florida area that I could just drive to, that would be fine. Thanks a lot, Stu ------------------------------------------------------------ Stuart Hamlyn Motorola Inc. Applied Research MS 71 1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292 (407)-364-3997 (407)-364-3904 (FAX) stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com [NeXTMail preferred]
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next (HPLJ4-NeXT) Date: 7 Feb 1994 17:47:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j5us1$3vh@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> In article <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) writes: >rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) writes: > >>I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a >>laserjet 4m. > >2 - The NEXTSTEP driver for the PostScript-based LaserJet 4's (including the > 4m) is generally not available on the net. You need to call HP and get > it, but it is free. You don't need any special driver for HPLJ 4/4M driven via serial/parallel port. If you are talking about the PPD file for the printer (pls, don't call a PPD file a driver), standard Release 3.2 already includes it on the CDROM. The file will end up in /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/. No need to go hunting on the net. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) Subject: Re: SupraFax 144i modem for $119 at Sam's a good deal? Message-ID: <CKv5z4.3po@mail.auburn.edu> Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator) Organization: Auburn University References: <2j5mcv$rnu@menudo.uh.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:01:51 GMT It depends on what you need the modem to do. Under NeXTStep, forget about it being able to receive faxes, or send either, since it does not support Class II fax commands. I bought one as a second, cheap modem suitable for dial-in and dial-out. It seems to work OK, though recently it hasn't wanted to connect with anything at speeds above 9600 baud. Probably the work they've been doing on the phone lines around here as of late, though.... :) You'll need to make a modem cable according to the directions in the man pages. Bringing up Digital Librarian and looking up zs and serial should give you all the info you'll need. I can help with that, if need be :) I'm curious to hear what others think. Of course, I'm very partial to my Zyxel from Black&White. IT IS AWESOME and runs perfectly. It is hard to put a price tag on that. When I buy another modem, it'l be a Zyxel from B&W, just for their awesome customer support (--- I'm not affiliated with them, just a VERY happy customer ---) :) :) :) - Bill (again, overutilizing the word awesome. Is there a thesaurus on this $%^& Sun I'm typing on here at school?????)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE Date: 7 Feb 1994 00:03:45 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2j3t0h$1hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Feb2.180159.11502@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <CEDMAN.94Feb2180936@capitalist.princeton.edu> <CKrJzK.3KF@utstat.toronto.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >In article <CEDMAN.94Feb2180936@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >SCSI is way overrated. It's nice that you can daisy chain devices, but this >is not really important for most people and in any case the days of IDE >supporting 4 HD's are here now. Supporting 4 HDs? Wow, I'm impressed. And with which tape device do you make your NS/I backups? You don't make backups? Tssss.... >I had nothing but hassles with the 1542CF (and 3.2), and I don't even have >a SCSI HD. In my opinion you should stick to IDE hard drives on a PC, for >now. If you are pleased with the low IDE performance - stick to your IDE drives. Me, I'd never want to miss my SCSI devices and haven't had any problems (except with an old SyQuest drive which behaved badly on the bus), neither with Adaptecs nor with DPT. But in the first place, I cannot see how one can use NeXTSTEP seriously and does not care for a suitable backup media. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside. --- Waiting for the HP Gecko !!!
From: sav3@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help me, my 486 doesn't quite cut the mustard Date: 7 Feb 1994 19:00:46 GMT Organization: Columbia University Sender: Sean Varah Message-ID: <2j634u$sod@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Summary: New Sound Card or SCSI card, or ? Keywords: Sound, GX Pro, SCSI I've put together a basic NS-FIP system: Intel GX Pro, 16 Meg RAM, Maxtor MXT1240s, NEC monitor in greyscale. Onboard SCSI and 16 bit sound. This system was bought to do digital sound using various academic computer music packages, cmix, csound, and RT. The problem is: the GX can't play back 16 bit stereo files without glitches. It's a problem with the driver, NeXT knows about it, but a fix is more than a month off. The question is, can I spend money and fix this problem? Would buying a Pro Audio Spectrum card work? Would buying another SCSI card work? The latter won't work, as I get fairly good throughput using the onboard SCSI, around 1.2 megs a second, so I don't think that's the problem. This may sound like a small problem, but to us folks in computer music it's the most important thing to have. Otherwise there's no way to record sound to DAT reliably, making the machine pretty well useless for studio work. Any ideas? Thanks, ****************************************************************************** "it's not music if no one wants to listen to it" Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, sav3@cunixa.columbia.edu ******************************************************************************
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTworld? Date: 7 Feb 94 10:41:39 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Feb7104139@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> References: <MAGNUS.94Jan31112244@fisher.Stanford.EDU> <1994Feb2.155748.2480@hot.com> In-reply-to: Robert La Ferla's message of Wed, 2 Feb 1994 15:57:48 GMT I havn't received my Jan. 94 issue yet. I called them and found out they have no record of my payment in DEC. 93, though, the cashed check came back to me long time ago. You, Mr. Magnus Nordborg > magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome) > Department of Biological Sciences may check with them either. They would ask you to fax a copy of your payment to them. "How come you got my money, but no record of it?" I asked NextWorld. "There is so much going on here. ..." Sounds like this is a big magazine publisher. But, I had no such experience with any other magazine before. ZiZi
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: DPT 2021 for NS/I 3.1 Date: 7 Feb 94 10:53:19 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Feb7105319@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Has anybody in the net made DPT 2021 ISA/SCSI controller work with NeXTSTEP/Intel 3.1? DPT technical support says: it would not work with 3.1. NeXTanswers says: [document #1476, 1476_DPT_2021_ISA_SCSI_Controller.rtfd] Release 3.2 NeXT has tested a DPT 2021 with BIOS revisions 2.A, 2.B, and 2.C and firmware revisions 5A.0, 5B.0, and 5C.0. Release 3.1 Contact DPT to obtain the firmware revision required for the DPT 2011 to work under NEXTSTEP Release 3.1. Known Problems: * NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 requires a special firmware upgrade that can be obtained from DPT. :-( I am confused. Regards, ZiZi
From: ranilla@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es (Ranilla Pastor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: problems with HSD SCAN-X Color Message-ID: <1994Feb7.203524.1392@polar> Date: 7 Feb 94 20:35:24 +0100 Organization: Universidad de Oviedo About one and a half year ago I bought a HSD SCAN-X Color for my 68040 NeXT Cube. Currently I am transfering my work to a Intel 486 based running MICROSOFT WINDOWS 3.1 environment, because my Next Cube lost the login window and now I can't use it. Therefore, I would like to use the scan on the 486 Pc. Unfortunately I haven't the drivers software for the 486 Pc and I can't use the scanner. Does someone know about drivers software for the HSD SCAN-X Color on the Intel 486? or Does soemone know about the technical details of the scanner (instruction code, class, ADF, etc), or how to get these informations? Thanks in advance, Ranilla PD: Best way to reply to me is email PD: Excuse my (non-existent :-) english and my poor dictionary. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Ranilla Pastor Phone: +34 9 5182129 Area de Ciencias de la Computacion e I.A. Fax: +34 9 5338538 E.T.S.I.I de Gijon EMail: ranilla@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es Campus de Viesques s/n Gijon \,,,/ Spain (o o) ----------------------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------------
From: Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RFD: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 7 Feb 1994 15:45:20 -0500 Organization: gwdg.de Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) concerning the newsgroup comp.sys.next.hardware. I propose to split this newsgroup into comp.sys.next.hardware.{m68k,i386}. This means: 1) supersede comp.sys.next.hardware by comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k 2) create a new newsgroup comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 (anyone is allowed to exchange i386 and m68k ;-) None of these groups is to be moderated. REASON The articles in comp.sys.next.hardware divide into two unrelated groups concerning the two hardware architectures NeXTSTEP runs on. This year even more hardware architectures will be started. In order to help people get the information they want as quickly and as easy as possible, we need a split now. Those articles that concern more than just one hardware should be crossposted to both groups or directed to comp.sys.next.misc. DISCUSSION & VOTES The discussion already started in comp.sys.next.hardware now, all following discussion should be directed there. The Call For Votes (CFV) will be submitted on the 1st of March, all votes Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adding RAM to Gateway 2000 Date: 7 Feb 1994 21:14:22 GMT Organization: University of California, at Berkeley Message-ID: <2j6ave$980@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all, I'm planning on adding another 16 megs to my Gateway system (16 megs installed) This would bring me up to 28 megs (I'd have to take out a 4M SIMM). I recall some discussion of Gateways not recognizing memory above 16M in NS. Am I in trouble or is there some way around this (posibbly nonexistant) problem? Any comments would be welcome, Mark ----------------------------------------------- Mark Frohnmayer reply to: markf@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu NeXTmail Welcome!
Message-ID: <y9%@byu.edu> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 16:07:50 MST From: yackd@maine.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Distribution: world References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <CEDMAN.94Feb6125738@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice In article <CEDMAN.94Feb6125738@capitalist.princeton.edu>, cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >Not according to the numbers quoted from Open Systems Today here >recently. A 66 MHz Pentium has an integer performance (which is what >you care about mostly unless you do scientific simulations) of 67 >SPECint92, just in the middle between the low-end 712/60 at 58 >SPECint92 and the high-end 712/80 at 84 SPECint92. > >If you have reliable numbers which say otherwise, I'd be genuinely >grateful if you let me know as I'm in the process of deciding between >a Pentium and a Gecko and performance is very important to me. But as >it seems right now, integer performance is a toss-up between the two of >them and almost all other indications point to the Pentium, so I'm >leaning in that direction. The HP's floating point performance is about twice as fast as the Pentium, though. If you're going to be running NEXTSTEP, you _want_ good floating point, because that's what Display PostScript uses. Floating point isn't just for scientists anymore. It's for anyone who uses NEXTSTEP. Look at how much CPU your windowserver uses compared to other processes just doing integer stuff, and I'll go with the Gecko myself, thank you very much. (Of course, given my bent towards graphics, this isn't surprising...) Just another data point... -- Don_Yacktman@byu.edu Nepotism is a relative thing. don@darth.byu.edu (My NeXT at home. Send me NeXTMail. Pleeeease.)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ECESYS blurb from customer Date: 7 Feb 1994 23:24:43 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2j6ijr$kh9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2iukjb$afg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2j5d2o$8at@marble.Britain.EU.net> Hi, there is a UK reseller, but I don't have the information. Anyone? RKD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: V1.3 Mux Serial Driver for Intel Processors Message-ID: <CKvKoI.3wG@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: VE6MGS Gateway Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 22:19:28 GMT This is the fourth version of the Mux Serial Driver. It solves the low throughput and occasional crashing problems experienced with the SerialPorts driver supplied with NeXTSTEP 3.2 for 486. Very little changes to the software and some additional documentation has been supplied. I have still not written the Configuration Application for handling multiplexed serial cards, but in my defense, it appears that MOST users are simply using this driver as a drop in replacement for the SerialPorts driver to handle high speed modems, and can use the existing Configure.app inspector (except in the case of handling a Serial Mouse, documented in the `Configuration/SerialPort,COM2' directory). - Added dynamically (Software controllable sizes in the Instance? tables) allocated receive buffers, and programmable low and high water marks for RTS handling. The use of kalloc instead of static storage solves the problems with large memory usage for aggressive buffer configurations. - recognized AST board handling under configuration control, rather than by a manifest compile constant. To program for the AST board, the mux takes up a port range of 1. To program for a DigiBoard 8, the mux range is specified as a range of 2. 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From: audley@condor.cs.jhu.edu (Christopher Audley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Formatting a DEC DSP5400S Rev 427L for NeXT Date: 7 Feb 1994 21:25:31 -0500 Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department Distribution: na Message-ID: <2j6t6r$3qn@condor.cs.jhu.edu> I have two DEC 5Gig drives that I'm trying to format and initialize for a NeXT computer. If anyone has done this and can give me pointers I would appreciate it. Thanks. Chris
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the deal with Fax modems for Intel? Date: 8 Feb 1994 02:29:31 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2j6teb$q7e@cs.ubc.ca> Various people have reported: >Under NeXTStep, forget about it being able to receive faxes, or >send either, since [SupraFax modem] does not support Class II fax >commands. >It seems that no-one supports Class I modems on NeXTSTEP as everyone >is switching to Class II. Class is not to be confused with Group. Sure, easy for you to say. :-) So what are Class and Group? Is there any kind of "set inclusion" ordering, like: Group I < Group II < Group III Class I < Class II < Class III I want to be able to fax documents using NeXTSTEP's integrated fax capabilities, and am about to get a US Robotics Sportster 14.4k, but recent reports say that this won't do. What _will_ do? How can I tell if a fax modem is supported by NeXTSTEP? NeXT's documentation, NeXTanswers, and the FAQ are frustratingly vague on fax modems. -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@cs.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu (Jesse Hurlbut) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: best cheap printer? Date: 8 Feb 1994 03:03:12 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <2j6vdg$fpu@s.ms.uky.edu> I'm thinking about putting together an NS-Intel system (Dell dimension maybe?) but would like some suggestions for a good, not-too-expensive laser printer that will do Post-Script 2. Any suggestions? Jesse Hurlbut hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu (NeXTMail fine)
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: best cheap printer? Message-ID: <2j70q9$esf@inxs.concert.net> Date: 8 Feb 94 03:27:05 GMT References: <2j6vdg$fpu@s.ms.uky.edu> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <2j6vdg$fpu@s.ms.uky.edu> hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu (Jesse Hurlbut) writes: > I'm thinking about putting together an NS-Intel system (Dell dimension > maybe?) but would like some suggestions for a good, not-too-expensive > laser printer that will do Post-Script 2. Any suggestions? > > Jesse Hurlbut > hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu > (NeXTMail fine) Our Digital 1152 laser has PostScript Level 2 at a reasonable $699.00 -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <dgursky.760627249@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <1994Feb5.190904.5731@cs.yale.edu> <2j3v40$bk2@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:20:49 GMT bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: >nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: >>I would suggest purchasing an Emulex NetJet card for the printer. >>Then just hang it on the network, make the printcap entry, and wonder why >>you ever bothered with the serial ports while enjoying problem-free >>fast printing... >>I am assuming the same type card that fits in out HP 4Si would work, >>you should of course check. >Precisely......hang it on the network with a ethernet card..........HP >sells one...........this is much faster than either the serial or parallel >ports...... Unless you are planning to buy a Sun or an HP to control the printer, I would not recommend buying HP's JetDirect Ethernet card for the LaserJet printers. While the JetDirect card does have TCP/IP on board, it does not include lpr/lpd. It appears to use some other scheme to recieve data from a host on the network. You would need the JetDirect software from HP in order to create an lpr/lpd-based queue that a NeXT could work with, and the JetDirect software is available only for Sun Solaris and HP HP-UX. The Emulex card (if I understand and remember correctly) does include the lpr/lpd protocols, so no other components would be needed. -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 608-2144 Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 495-3036
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,andi.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: infopers@nextsrv1.andi.org (Email Info-Server Administrator) Subject: Toshiba 6600C "Laptop" for the Road Warrior Message-ID: <CKvBqy.KLu@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: ANDI,NEXTSTEP,Toshiba,Conner,3401 Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 19:06:32 GMT ANDI just completed preliminary testing to the Toshiba 6600C computer. It might be a possible solution for people who travel as consultants and for people doing presentations. At this time it is the only "laptop" out there that can handle more than 340MB of internal hard drive storage plus have space for a CDROM drive and two ISA expansion slots. For complete configuration information send email to our InfoServer: info@andi.org In the subject field: send Toshiba Toshiba_6600C.rtfd You will get an automated NeXTmail reply with the Configuaration information in the same format that NeXT uses. A copy has been sent to NeXT in case they want to add it to NeXTanswers. Overall a very vaible machine with working sound, on board SCSI, and space for an internal CDROM drive. -- Email Info-Server Administrator For a personal response please reply to:info-person@nextsrv1.andi.org To submit items to be placed on the InfoServer please reply to:info-submit@nextsrv1.andi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NeXT printer and envelopes. Message-ID: <HZSLBE7I@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2j1d9i$hcr@alf.uib.no> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 08:39:53 GMT Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: > Thanks for all the suggestions. The basic consensus is that the > NeXT printer does not handle envelopes well... Sorry, that's not true. There are apps, that handle envelopes well like Poste or InTouch or the like. Just because some people have found a kludge, and you didn't manage to find a better way, doesn't say there is no solution. > By placing a piece of paper under the envelopes loose "top" (which > is glued in place after you put a letter in, you see?) , and > pushing the envelope into the printer with the paper (and the > paper too!) the printer was fooled into thinking it was just a > thick piece of paper, and it worked. Not elegant (I don't look > forward to christmas cards now...) but effective. This *is* a kludge! Ciao, Stephan p.s. why didn't you once try one of these ps files from InTouch or Poste? You could have analyzed them, and perhaps you would have found a real solution. I don't know exactly what's going on, but perhaps it's just the boundingbox in the ps file (the paper type is still a4.), as I didn't find anything else in the file, and I don't have the time to try all possibilities. p.p.s. please don't be too upset, but I don't like this kind of postings. You had other info, but you didn't use it, you rather posted info, that's wrong :-( Would be terrible if some normal user of a NL reads your article, and really thinks, that's the only way to print envelopes. Sometimes NeXT hardware is strange, but their h/w s/w engineers were not lunatic. p.p.p.s. No, I did not write Poste, nor do I have any personal interest in it. I use it three to four times a year, but that's it. And remember, I did *not* say, you should use/buy/... Poste, I wanted you to try, what's the contents of a ps file, that prints correctly on an envelope. -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <VZSLBHNK@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <1994Feb5.190904.5731@cs.yale.edu> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 08:54:27 GMT > In article <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert > Morris) writes: > > I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a > > laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have > > picked up the drivers from the archive servers, I have special ordered a > > cable, all to no avail. THIS SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROBLEM!!!! I am about to > > throw in the towel on NeXT. I had planned to convert my entire research > > computing network to NS, but am changing plans in light of this absurdity. > > Support is invisible. It's a great OS, but nothing is worth this hassle. Hmmm, you didn't describe the problem yet. Does the printer do nothing, or does it do something wrong? Which drivers did you use "from the archive servers" i.e. did you try the demo/comm. version of Dots (archives or Alembic)? Did you check the cable wire by wire to see, whether the connections are correct? O.K. it's a hassle to connect a bitmap printer to a NeXT, but it is possible, and many people (including myself) did it e.g. with the HP deskjet. I think, there are two options for you: 1) get Dots from Alembic (and ask for support to get the LJ4M running, they should know, what exactly you'll have to do :-). If they don't know (I can't believe it), try d'Art in Germany. 2) do what Nathan proposed, if it's possible. I don't know whether the Emulex card can be installed inside a LJ4M, and you'll still have the driver problem... Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Subject: NS/DECpc XL560_____________ Message-ID: <CKvDFq.7In@lysis.ch> Sender: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Organization: Lysis Institute of Research, Lausanne Switzerland Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 19:43:02 GMT Hi, has someone configured a DECpc XL 560 for NEXTSTEP? what are the DECs adapters supported? (looking for adapters that are sold by DEC) -S3 928 PCI -Viper -is the on board PCI SCSI-II adapter supported? -is there a Network adapter from DEC that is supported? - I could'nt make it work with the EtherWorks Turbo Plus. Thanks for your reply lien@lysis.ch
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS/DECpc XL560_____________ Date: 8 Feb 1994 13:29:14 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j843a$l2i@inxs.concert.net> References: <CKvDFq.7In@lysis.ch> In article <CKvDFq.7In@lysis.ch> lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) writes: > Hi, > has someone configured a DECpc XL 560 for NEXTSTEP? > what are the DECs adapters supported? (looking for adapters that are sold > by DEC) > -S3 928 PCI WILL BB SUPPORTED, DRIVER NOT RELEASED BY NEXT > -Viper WILL BE SUPPORTED, DRIVER NOT RELEASED BY NEXT > -is the on board PCI SCSI-II adapter supported? NO, THE ONBOARD NCR SCSI2 ADAPTER IS NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTED, YOU WILL HAVE TO GO ADAPTEC, DPT > -is there a Network adapter from DEC that is supported? - I > could'nt make it work with the EtherWorks Turbo Plus. DEC's NETWORK ADAPTERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTED The machine really cooks! -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice In-Reply-To: yackd@maine.et.byu.edu's message of Mon, 7 Feb 94 16:07:50 MST To: yackd@maine.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb7195225@capitalist.princeton.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <CEDMAN.94Feb6125738@capitalist.princeton.edu> <y9%@byu.edu> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 00:52:25 GMT In article <y9%@byu.edu> yackd@maine.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes: The HP's floating point performance is about twice as fast as the Pentium, though. If you're going to be running NEXTSTEP, you _want_ good floating point, because that's what Display PostScript uses. Floating point isn't just for scientists anymore. It's for anyone who uses NEXTSTEP. Look at how much CPU your windowserver uses compared to other processes just doing integer stuff, and I'll go with the Gecko myself, thank you very much. Not quite. The Pentium has a SPECfp92 rating of 57, both gecko models one of 79 -- a difference of less than 40%, not 100%. A matter on which my recollection is more clouded is whether the DPS server actually does use processor floating point. At some time it was pointed out that this is not so but rather that it uses a special fixed point format which is emulated in integer instructions. Or was it the other way around ? Personally, I'm by now leaning close to buying the Royal Pentium. In particular the facts that it actually does have a second generation PCI level bus (which is fully 64 bit and does not share the older versions cache write problems) and that NeXT has/is working on a driver for the Matrox MGA II graphics card have encouraged me. But thousand thanks to all the people who wrote to me on both sides of this issue. (Of course, given my bent towards graphics, this isn't surprising...) Well, in that case you may want real true color. And that you can't get with a Gecko. Carl Edman PS: I believe I recall that one of the more obscure rules by which the Usenet is supposed to retain its sham of a semblance of well-orderedness is never to cross-post to a misc group, or at least a foo.bar.baz and a foo.bar.misc group as subjects which are are appropriate to discussion in a misc group are by definition not appropriate to any of its sister groups. So I redirected the followup.
From: or@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Oliver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How do i plug a multisyncing monitor into a station? Date: 8 Feb 1994 16:05:34 GMT Organization: TU Darmstadt Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j8d8e$eac@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <1994Feb3.041935.29729@beaver.cs.washington.edu> as i know, the dell 17" IS a mitsubishi diamond 17.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sahayman@cs.toronto.edu (Steve Hayman) Subject: Networking NeXTSTEP laptops Message-ID: <94Feb8.111701est.48160@neat.cs.toronto.edu> Organization: Steve Hayman + Associates / NeXTSTEP Consultants / Toronto Date: 8 Feb 94 16:18:09 GMT Anybody tried connecting an NS/Intel laptop via a direct serial SLIP connection to another machine? I've been lusting after a NeXTSTEP/Intel laptop, and after seeing an NEC Ultralite Versa E running NeXTSTEP in full glorious 16-bit colour, I've got to get one. Somehow. One of these was being shown at the East Coast Developer's Conference. It looked great. It was using a special NeXTSTEP driver to do colour, and apparently this driver is going to be enhanced to do 1024x768 colour out the on-board SVGA monitor connector, so you will be able to attach a higher-res monitor directly to the laptop. It sure seemed like a nice package. (I didn't like the feel of the built-in trackball but I could live with it...) The only problem is, I really don't want to buy a docking station if I can avoid it, and I want to be able to put a laptop on the network.. Now, the word is that Steve Jobs has promised PCMCIA support in NeXTSTEP 3.3 - he told this to the NEC people at the show, and is quite a fan of the Ultralite Versa - which might mean that you could use a PCMCIA Ethernet card, which would be great. I would love to be able to plunk the laptop down on my desk, attach a monitor, plug in the ethernet, and go. In the interim, however, I would have to buy a docking station to get ethernet capability. I really don't want to do that. So. I'm wondering - has anyone tried running SLIP over the built-in serial port on a laptop? It seems to me that you could connect a serial line from the laptop directly to any other machine on your network that supported SLIP - like maybe the NeXTStation that I already have - and run the connection at a relatively high serial speed, and that this might be a workable combination. No modems, just a direct serial connection. It wouldn't be too swift for for copying megabytes of files back and forth, but for reading your email and other basic work it might be OK. Just wondering if anyone has tried anything like this. -- Steve Hayman Steve Hayman + Associates NeXTSTEP Consulting Toronto, Ontario shayman@Objectario.com (416) 769-8995
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: engelsma@elm.gvsu.edu (Ben Engelsma) Subject: Re: ProAudio Basic Message-ID: <1994Feb8.161451.14031@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University References: <swaltman-040294113026@porpoise.chem.wesleyan.edu> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:14:51 GMT In article <swaltman-040294113026@porpoise.chem.wesleyan.edu> writes: > I have a 486/66 on which I have the ProAudio Spectrum setup. It works great > and I have no problems with it under MS windows. However, it is totally > unpredictable when it comes to NeXTstep. Sometime (Usually for a period > after system boots) it works and then suddenly all I hear are random noise. > I am also eager to find out from anyone who has better success with the > ProAudio Spectrum sound card/driver. Thanks. > > Ravi I have the BASIC and it works fine. I've experienced nothing at all like random noises, etc. The only catch, I have no SCSI devices. The only people that I have heard complaining were those with SCSI devices. Otherwise, the card is really nice and puts out very nice sound for me. I have a Gateway DX2-66V. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Benjamin D. Engelsma engelsma@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Grand Valley State University Telephone (616)453-0974 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: engelsma@elm.gvsu.edu (Ben Engelsma) Subject: Re: ProAudio Basic Message-ID: <1994Feb8.162722.14404@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Organization: Grand Valley State University References: <CKrK3p.3nD@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:27:22 GMT In article <CKrK3p.3nD@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > While waiting for NeXT to support the SB16/ASP, I went out and bought > a PAS 16 Basic. I have both audio cards in the PC. Everything works fine, > but then I'm not trying to record my voice at CD levels. I piped in CD sound and can hardly tell the difference between the CD player and the sound card output. ( maybe a small decrease in the SNR ) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Benjamin D. Engelsma engelsma@beech.csis.gvsu.edu Grand Valley State University Telephone (616)453-0974 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: konmh@cm4.ericsson.se (Mike Henry) Subject: Re: SupraFax 144i modem for $119 at Sam's a good deal? Message-ID: <konmh.760698459@cm4> Sender: news@ericsson.se Organization: Ericsson References: <2j5mcv$rnu@menudo.uh.edu> <CKv5z4.3po@mail.auburn.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 09:07:39 GMT sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) writes: >Under NeXTStep, forget about it being able to receive faxes, or send >either, since it does not support Class II fax commands. Lies, lies, lies... Both DFax and NXFax are available for the SupraFAX and run great. I would however recommend getting NXFax, which I think is superior. >I'm curious to hear what others think. Of course, I'm very partial to my >Zyxel from Black&White. IT IS AWESOME and runs perfectly. It is hard to >put a price tag on that. When I buy another modem, it'l be a Zyxel from >B&W, just for their awesome customer support (--- I'm not affiliated with >them, just a VERY happy customer ---) :) :) :) I have heard a lot of people having good experiences with Zyxel, but I can only say that I have had my SupraFAX 14.4k for about two years now (since they were introduced), and have never had any problems whatsoever, sending faxes, using kermit and SLIP daily. Except for the time I fried it by using the wrong powerpack (I moved to a country where they use 220V 50Hz). Supra responded timely and sent me the proper powerpack for free and also upgraded the ROM's at absolutely no cost to me. So all things considered the SupraFAX 14.4k at $119 is definitely a good deal. I'd get it ASAP before it goes away. I don't think I would by a Zyxel even if it was cheaper than the Supra, considering the Supra's track record for me. >- Bill -Mike
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Date: 8 Feb 1994 16:58:53 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2j8gcd$ov2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <1994Feb5.190904.5731@cs.yale.edu> <VZSLBHNK@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: >> In article <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert >> Morris) writes: >> > I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a >> > laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have ^^ [..] >1) get Dots from Alembic (and ask for support to get the LJ4M running, > they should know, what exactly you'll have to do :-). If they don't > know (I can't believe it), try d'Art in Germany. The 4M is the PostScript model. I bet Federico could've told you that... Don't know about Alembic. Marcel
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Elonex NextStations? Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 17:06:40 GMT Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2j8h36$10r@marble.Britain.EU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anybody seen/tried out one of the Elonex NextStations running NS/I? Impressions would be welcome. C.
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SupraFax 144i modem for $119 at Sam's a good deal? Date: 8 Feb 1994 17:56:49 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2j8jp1$bud@news.iastate.edu> References: <konmh.760698459@cm4> Mike Henry writes []sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) writes: [] []>Under NeXTStep, forget about it being able to receive faxes, or send []>either, since it does not support Class II fax commands. [] []Lies, lies, lies... [] []Both DFax and NXFax are available for the SupraFAX and run great. I would []however recommend getting NXFax, which I think is superior. [] I would agree here. I have DFax, and it has worked perfectly fine for me, but the developers have largely moved on to other projects and I suspect NXFax is going to be the better product in the long run (sorry Bruce :) []>I'm curious to hear what others think. Of course, I'm very partial to my []>Zyxel from Black&White. IT IS AWESOME and runs perfectly. It is hard to []>put a price tag on that. When I buy another modem, it'l be a Zyxel from []>B&W, just for their awesome customer support (--- I'm not affiliated with []>them, just a VERY happy customer ---) :) :) :) [] []I have heard a lot of people having good experiences with Zyxel, but I can []only say that I have had my SupraFAX 14.4k for about two years now (since []they were introduced), and have never had any problems whatsoever, sending []faxes, using kermit and SLIP daily. My experience exactly duplicates this. It was 100% plug and play and has NEVER had the slightest problem. The only real trouble I've had, which ws modem independent, is the mediocre quality of hte local phone lines causing trouble with SLIP. []Except for the time I fried it by using []the wrong powerpack (I moved to a country where they use 220V 50Hz). WHEW! THIS problem I've thankfully managed to avoid :) -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) Subject: Re: SupraFax 144i modem for $119 at Sam's a good deal? Message-ID: <CKwztB.GG5@mail.auburn.edu> Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator) Organization: Auburn University References: <2j5mcv$rnu@menudo.uh.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:43:59 GMT Jagannatha Rao (rao@tree.egr.uh.edu) wrote: : I have never used a modem in a long time, and know nothing about what : hardware/software setup I need to run a modem from my NS-FIP machine at : home. Have checked the FAQ but that had nothing there. : Sam's Wholesale (and possibly Walmart) is carrying the SupraFax 144i : internal modem for $119. The price looks good. : - Is this a good model or can I do better in terms of features for : similar price? : - Will this work with NS-FIP? : - Is tip,cu and kermit enough to dial out? Any nice GUI based : program recommendations? (munch) Earlier I wrote that faxes could not be sent/received with the 144I due to its lack of support for class II fax commands. I would like to correct my error. I was thinking of the 144LC (low-cost, or low-compliance, whichever you prefer) The 144I seems to be just fine, and works with NXFax from what I understand. Just be sure that Sams is selling the I and not the LC! Again, my apologies. I'm just another fellow human being occasionally confues by the alphabetocracy we seem to live in. Actually, if you confirm it is indeed the 144I they are selling, please let me know. I'd like to pick up a spare modem so I can have my Zxyel perform the voice mail it was designed for! Many thanks to (geez, I forget your name) the fellow who corrected me via e-mail. I appreciate the chance to correct the error on the net myself! Again, my personal experience is with the Zyxel and the 144LC. Both are good, but the Zyxel can punch through the noisiest lines VERY well. It's hard to put a price on that. - Bill
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Geckos graphic [was: Re: New system buying: need advice] Date: 8 Feb 1994 13:23:00 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402081836.AA01239@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> Don_Yacktman writes: > > Look at how much CPU your windowserver uses > compared to other processes just doing integer stuff, and I'll go > with the Gecko myself, thank you very much. (Of course, given my > bent towards graphics, this isn't surprising...) > If you're interested in Grpahics, think twice before buying the Gecko. It has only 8 Bit color!!! The OS sees 24 Bit, but the hardware uses a Floyd-Steinberg-Algorithm build in hardware to reduce the data to 8 Bit. The overall color reproduction is ok, but all images get blurry (as opposed to a good dithering algorithm), wich leaves the Gecko pretty useless for people that wan't to do Image processing... Gerd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Re: SupraFax 144i modem for $119 at Sam's a good deal? Message-ID: <1994Feb8.195204.1477@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. References: <konmh.760698459@cm4> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:52:04 GMT In article <konmh.760698459@cm4> konmh@cm4.ericsson.se (Mike Henry) writes: > sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) writes: > > >Under NeXTStep, forget about it being able to receive faxes, or send > >either, since it does not support Class II fax commands. > > Lies, lies, lies... > --- expunged --- The SupraFax 144i modem is not the SupraFax modem of fame in the Next community. It is, in fact, a Class I only fax modem that does not work with either the DFax or NXFax software. I know whereof I speak. I made the mistake of purchasing one. > > >- Bill > > -Mike > -- Glen Biagioni Software Developer glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (small NeXTmail accepted) 604 872-7116 604 872-7125 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2) Subject: NeXT, Novell (NetWare) and Printers Message-ID: <CKxBIL.6oH@news.cis.umn.edu> Keywords: NeXT, Novell, Networks, Printer Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:53:23 GMT Greetings! I've got my NeXTStation running NS3.0 and it's connected to a LAN whose server is running Novell Netware (don't know the version tho'). I'd like to print to an HP LaserJet 4M which is connected to the network: what do I need to do to get my 'Station to "see" the printer? I've got a LaserJet 4 PostScript driver installed, the network is up an running, but PrintManager cannot find the printer. Anyone who has any experience with this sort of thing, PLEASE reply via email, I shall be most grateful! -Sharad Shanbhag - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218 Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201 Department of Neurosurgery University of Minnesota email: 421 Lions Research Building shanbhag@neuro.med.umn.edu 2001 6th St. SE shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Minneapolis, MN 55455
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: driver kit questions Date: 8 Feb 1994 21:55:10 GMT Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University Message-ID: <2j91nu$nru@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> While I've written loadable kernel servers before (for black hardware), I'm now learning about the Driver Kit & Intel hardware. I've got a few (simple?) questions, that no-doubt reveal several levels of confusion. Some of these questions could be solved by trial and error, but I don't currently have convenient access to an Intel machine, so I want to optimize my time with the hardware. Any help that would speed the learning process would be greatly appreciated. 1. As a start, I thought I'd write a dirt-simple driver that simply writes and reads addresses in I/O space ("I/O Ports.") I made a mig interface that invokes functions that read/write these intel I/O ports. These functions are invoked, by default, in the driver's main kernel task, right? Will it work to access I/O ports from the main driver thread/task, or is it necessary for the functions to run in the I/O Task (in a thread spawned by the main kernel thread) in order to access Intel I/O Ports? If that's not necessary, what is the significance & advantage of Kernel I/O Tasks vs. ordinary Kernel Tasks? The only reference I could find is that from Kernel Tasks you have to use msg_send_from_kernel(). 2. If it is indeed necessary to talk to I/O ports via the I/O task, is there any way to avoid the extra level of messaging:? user -> driver thread (kernel task), followed by kernel task -> I/O thread (I/O task) This would mean a "get (or put) value of I/O port" RPC requires 4 mach messages! 3. Alternatively, is there a way to pass the I/O thread's mach port out to user level so that the user can send mach messages directly to it, rather than going through the extra level of messaging? 4. Are UNIX traps significantly faster than mach messaging? Or is there some other advantage (or disadvantage) to using them? 5. Is there way to get at the timeout used in the msg_receive() of the I/O thread created by the IODirectDevice method startIOThread? If not, I know the ways to get around this, but it seems like the best way to implement timeouts is to just be able to set the timeout of the msg_receiver() directly. Of course, I could make my own thread, but I'm trying to conform to NeXT's structure. David Jaffe daj@ccrma.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: marshall@rdr.com Subject: Status of PCI ATI driver Message-ID: <1994Feb8.151030.18906@rdr.com> Organization: RDR, Inc. Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:10:30 GMT Does anyone know the status of the PCI ATI driver? The HCG lists it as planned to be available Q1 94. Also, who is writing the driver? Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Re: ByteBenchmark test result. Message-ID: <1994Feb8.230010.9310@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com References: <2ivl71$11q@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 23:00:10 GMT This is the ByteBenchmark run on our Micron Pentium with 32 meg memory and 1.2 GIG seagate drive on an Adaptec ISA SCSI controller. The low disk scores are the fault of the ISA controller I am sure. These benchmarks where run from the terminal app. if the Window Server being active would taint the results, let me know and I'll run them again without (didn't think about that till just now). Anyways, hope this helps. BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) System -- bill_the_cat Start Benchmark Run: Mon Feb 7 14:23:49 PST 1994 2 interactive users. Dhrystone 2 without register variables 86902.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Dhrystone 2 using register variables 86903.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 273219.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = register) 8942.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = short) 8309.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = int) 8948.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = long) 8946.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = float) 10493.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = double) 10489.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) System Call Overhead Test 20712.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe Throughput Test 9008.8 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching Test 2624.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Process Creation Test 77.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Execl Throughput Test 71.8 lps (9 secs, 6 samples) File Read (10 seconds) 31238.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Write (10 seconds) 600.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (10 seconds) 407.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Read (30 seconds) 28955.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Write (30 seconds) 400.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (30 seconds) 375.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) C Compiler Test 47.8 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 56.6 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 31.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 16.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 8.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 2205.2 lpm (60 secs, 6 samples) Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 1370.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) /me/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/4524.dat INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 10489.4 3.9 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 8946.2 3.2 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 8942.6 3.1 C Compiler Test 24.1 47.8 2.0 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 86902.5 3.6 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 71.8 3.0 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 375.0 0.7 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 28955.0 1.6 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 400.0 0.7 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 2624.9 2.3 Process Creation Test 34.0 77.9 2.3 Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 1370.7 4.2 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 8.0 2.1 ========= SUM of 13 items 32.7 AVERAGE 2.5 -- jerald dawson*Systems Manager / Head Programmer*Investor's Advantage NeXTmail-jerald@mrk.com |"To compel a man to furnish contributions of phone - (708) 487-3221|money for the propogation of opinions which he fax - (708) 526-3635|disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Sam Li) Subject: Advice on backup device and 3 1/2" optical-drive Message-ID: <CKxMD0.2EG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Followup-To: poster Keywords: backup, optical Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 00:50:59 GMT hi, I am looking for a back-up device for my black NeXT machine, can anyone give me some advice on this: such as which brand or simply their experience with back-up device with old NeXT machines. Actually I am looking for a 3 1/2" optical drive as the back-up device, can anyone suggest any brand of 3 1/2" optical drive work well with the Motorola NeXT machines? Can I actually buy any SCSI-2 interfaced 3 1/2" optical drive and work with my Motorola NeXT? Please e-mail to veloqxli.ce.berkeley.edu . (NON-NeXTmail ONLY, Please!!!!) Sam.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Sam Li) Subject: correction: Advice on backup device and 3 1/2" optical-drive Message-ID: <CKxMn8.39t@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Followup-To: poster Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Purdue University Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 00:57:07 GMT hi, I am sorry to give the wrong e-mail address of mine. So please reply to veloqxli@iris-1.ce.berkeley.edu Thanks! Sam.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Date: 9 Feb 1994 01:03:19 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2j9con$i9l@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> I think the 4M has or uses its serial port for AppleTalk. You might want to check your instruction manuals for info on how to switch it back to a plain Ascii stream input. Especially if you've had the thing talking to a MAC recently. My 4ML works great, though I did have to take the Apple (720k) floppies supplied with the unit to a MAC to get the PPD file off. The DOS disks didn't have this file on them. :-(. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Subject: How do I test drive speed???? Message-ID: <CKxI5F.3Bp@nosloc.com> Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 23:20:03 GMT I would like to test the drive speeds (transfer rates mostly) of my two drives. I saw a blurb about using the disk command but cannot remember. Can someone email me the command? Thanks in advance... =derek -- Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com Nosloc Software Technologies NeXTSTEP Consulting and Software Design
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John "Kzin" Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Internal Modem/ Serial Card driver for NS/I Desperately wanted Message-ID: <137367@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 9 Feb 94 03:37:59 GMT Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Has anyone heard of, written, or bought or downloaded or ANYTHING, a driver that will work for internal modems or serial cards? I have an internal modem, and don't wnat to shell out the money for an external modem.. I tried disabling my on-board serial port com2, and setting my modem to be com2..but NS didn't like that. Any help would be appreciated. I don't really need my second serial port right now, so if you know how to set that up, that'd be ok..but i'd really just rather have an internal modem driver. I'd even pay a reasonable fee to buy one.. So don't rule out commercial drivers. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) ===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.============== DOOM ON YOU!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) Subject: What Portables are Supported? Sender: news@percy.rain.com (John Cavanaugh) Organization: /etc/organization Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 05:05:49 GMT Message-ID: <CKxy5q.FpD@percy.rain.com> I am curious to know what portables work with NSI?? Are they all limited to 640x480 2bit greyscale?? -- Steve Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com NeXTmail OK..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: fax options for ns/i Message-ID: <1994Feb9.005007.9901@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 00:50:07 GMT Hi. Please tell me what my options are for installing a fax modem on systems running NEXTSTEP for Intel... 1. Is NXFAx available yet? What internal fax/modems does this support? Will NXFax allow me to use com3 or com4, for an internal fax/modem? 2. An NeXTConnection advertisement from an issue of NeXTWorld states (to the effect) that the Prometheus Ultima Fax Modem "supports the Class II standard, ensuring compatibility with built-in fax software in NEXTSTEP." Does this mean I could use the Prometheus on a NEXTSTEP for Intel machine, and use the HSD or Interfax drivers (bundled with NEXTSTEP)? Anyone tried this on an Intel machine? Any other comments on current fax/modem options, for NEXTSTEP for Intel, would be appreciated. Thanks, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Message-ID: <1994Feb9.055325.24776@mail.vitech.fi> Organization: Vaasa Institute of Technology References: <2j40h4$jlg@inxs.concert.net> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 05:53:25 GMT Advanced Business Systems (info@absystems.com) wrote: : We currently have an XL 560 which we are shipping this week to a customer is : SC. The machine has now been certified by NeXT, however the driver for the : video will not be ready posted to ftp.next.com for about two weeks. The beta : driver we received from DEC is very stable and our customer in South Carolina : will split almost evenly between the XL and the NEW DATA GENERAL box which : exceeds the DEC in raw speed and will be equal to the DEC as far as video : (although it is not certified yet, we expect delivery tomorrow bring DEC to : two certified PCs and DATA GENERAL to three. : Go DG! : Dave So, are you using Viper and onboard NCR SCSI2.....or S3 and Adaptec? I suppose all XL models will be certified as they practically are the same machines, right? (except Alpha-CPU models) -Jani Miettinen
From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multimedia (well, sound) on a "white" NeXT Date: 3 Feb 1994 20:46:09 GMT Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris FRANCE Distribution: world Message-ID: <2irnqh$smk@enst.enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can someone relay me their experience in using whatever sound card they currently have? I'm trying to pick one out and wanted to know about your experiences... Also, I have a Toshiba XM 3401-TA (multi-speed, multi-session) internal SCSI CD-ROM hooked up to my Adaptec 1742CF (fast and with a floppy) disk controller. CDPlayer.app doesn't seem to grok this type of drive, and this seems to block access to my hard disk drive until the software finally resets the SCSI bus. Drastic! Anyway, it's a shame that the program won't work with this CD drive. One of it's nicer features is being able to read audio disks, and hence pipe them out to a 16bit sound card... Any wisdom to offer? Thanks, -Philip
Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: RFD: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <I3TLBMUD@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Followup-To: news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> <2j6p80$536@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 08:05:43 GMT Cory J. Boehm (umboehm4@cc.umanitoba.ca) wrote: > In <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> writes: > >This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) concerning the > >newsgroup comp.sys.next.hardware. I propose to split this > >newsgroup into comp.sys.next.hardware.{m68k,i386}. > >This means: > >1) supersede comp.sys.next.hardware by comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k > >2) create a new newsgroup comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 > >(anyone is allowed to exchange i386 and m68k ;-) > I think that comp.sys.next.hardware.intel would be far more approiate than > c.s.n.h.i386 as NS/I doesn't run on the 80386, there is no chip "i386" (it > is offical still an 80386), and it is not limited to just running on one > of the Intel processors but several different lines of processors. > Truthfully I even have problems with the "Intel" designation but since > that is what NeXt choose to use I say the newsgroup should follow it. Dear Cory, 1) please read the arch.3 manual page on the NeXT! Mach has defined all possible hardware architectures, unlikely ever to be changed. i386 or m68k is the value returned by /usr/bin/arch, and it's the official name of the corresponding cpu type. Even the Pentium belongs to the i386 cpu type. Others have suggested to use i486 instead, but again that's incorrect. i386 contains all 80x86 processors (ask CMU, why), but i486 is just a cpu subtype of i386 and does *not* contain the Pentium. 2) What are we going to do, if one of the other intel processors is supported. The best way would be to use cpu-hardware like FSF, but I don't think, that's appropriate now. 3) look at all the developer software. i386, m68k is used everywhere (except some object files with native i486 code :-) I would gladly accept, if you can give me a RULE, how to name such a newsgroup (but please make a rule, that produces unique names). I don't know what NeXT is going to do, when a MAC is ever supported (I don't believe it, they've got enough work already), but Apple switches to PowerPC anyway. Your proposal does NOT follow a rule. "intel" is the name of one of the cpu producing companies "next" is the name of the hardware manufacturer. My rule would be: tin comp.sys.next.`arch` I know about the limitations of my approach, but I don't know a better way yet. NeXT didn't know a good way either, but they never used next/intel, they used i386/m68k or Software for "NeXT Computers/Intel Processors" Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer From: leigh@cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh SMITH) Subject: Anyone looked at the ET4000 driver source? Message-ID: <leigh.760782164@cuscus> Summary: Why doesn't my monitor work : -) Keywords: ET4000, NS/FIP, Video drivers Sender: usenet@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia. Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 08:22:44 GMT Greetings NS people, Are there any knowledgeable souls out there who have looked at the source of the Tseng Labs ET4000 driver in 3.2? I've been looking at the code and documenting the register usage in order to discover why the driver puts the card in some mode my monitor can't handle. The card and monitor function quite ok with XFree (running under Xenix), which I have the source of and have been comparing. The specs of the monitor (a Taiwan Clone) say it should handle 60Hz refresh, yet using the tseng driver results in the image overlaying itself. The mouse and log on panel are visible, but portions of their images are reproduced several times across the screen. Running the ET4000 through a borrowed NEC 4FG results in a coherent image, but the flicker is insanity inducing....and the image only just fits, the edges of the image are curved, suggesting the 4FG is at the limit of it's syncing capabilities. So the card is obviously working ok, but the mode its in is too much for my monitor. Can anyone help enlighten me to what is being done with the ET4000 programming? This is a call to anyone else examining the code to email me so we can discuss the problem offline and hopefully arrive at a solution. Thanks -- Leigh Smith, Dept of Computer Science: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au, +61-9-380-1947 University of Western Australia Fax: +61-9-380-1126 Home NeXTMail: leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au, +61-9-450-2014 *---=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=---*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: demarest@rerf.or.jp (Timothy Demarest) Subject: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Message-ID: <demarest.760786427@rerf.or.jp> Sender: news@phoenix.gw.hiroshima-u.ac.jp (news manager) Organization: Hiroshima University, Hiroshima JAPAN Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:33:47 GMT I just installed installed NS/I 3.2 on a *very* generic PC. All went well until the very final reboot after copying all of the files from the CDROM to the IDE drive. I have drive 0 set up as a master IDE drive with DOS on it. I set up a 345 Mb IDE drive as drive 1 and made it a slave. I installed NS on the second drive. When I boot without the floppy it goes into DOS. If I want NS I boot from the floppy and type hd(1,a)mach_kernel and it starts to boot NS, except that it tries to fsck on hd0a!!! I know this sounds boneheaded, but can NS coexist with 2 IDE drives and be on the slave drive? Or does NS have to be on the master disk? Anyone running a similar set up? Thanks (hopefully for your answer!) Tim -- Timothy Demarest | Radiation Effects Research Foundation demarest@rerf.or.jp | Research Information Center | 5-2 Hijiyama Park, Minami-ku Hiroshima 732 Japan -----------"How will these windows affect my final document?"------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: kdburg@incoahe.hanse.de (Klaus Dahlenburg) Subject: Re: NeXT Cube SCSI termination power ? Message-ID: <CKx9sJ.MBE@incoahe.hanse.de> Organization: Hanse Networking eV., Hamburg; Germany References: <2j5s3s$1m6@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:19:30 GMT ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes: >Some things I always wanted to know about Cubes and SCSI : I don't know whether or not the Cube supplies power to the TERMPWR pin. If you have an internal disk only it should be terminated, the external SCSI port need not to be terminated. If you hook up an external disk to the CUBE, and it's the (end) only device then it must be terminated. Rule: always terminate the last unit in the chain whether it be external or internal. In case a device can supply power to the resistor or the TERMPWR pin or to both I would recommend a setting that will supply to the internal resitor only. Any short external to the device may damage it (this note was taken from FUJITSU installation guide). In any case don't worry about the motherbord's SCSI port(s) they take care of themself. Klaus --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: konmh@cm4.ericsson.se (Mike Henry) Subject: Re: SupraFax 144i modem for $119 at Sam's a good deal? Message-ID: <konmh.760786133@cm4> Sender: news@ericsson.se Organization: Ericsson References: <konmh.760698459@cm4> <1994Feb8.195204.1477@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:28:53 GMT glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes: >In article <konmh.760698459@cm4> konmh@cm4.ericsson.se (Mike Henry) >writes: >> sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) writes: >> >> >Under NeXTStep, forget about it being able to receive faxes, or send >> >either, since it does not support Class II fax commands. >> >> Lies, lies, lies... >> >--- expunged --- >The SupraFax 144i modem is not the SupraFax modem of fame in the Next >community. It is, in fact, a Class I only fax modem that does not work >with either the DFax or NXFax software. I know whereof I speak. I made >the mistake of purchasing one. *Ooops* So is this the *FAX ONLY* modem? If it is then I stand corrected and I appologize. >> >- Bill >> -Mike >Glen Biagioni -Mike Mike Henry INET : mike@enea.se /// Enea Object Technology /// Box 232, Nytorpsv. 5B Tel : +46 8 638-5000 \\\/// S-183 23 Taby, SWEDEN Fax : +46 8 638-5050 \XX/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Message-ID: <1994Feb9.110318.19122@qb.rhein-main.de> Sender: vhs@qb.rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) References: <CEDMAN.94Feb7195225@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:03:18 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Feb7195225@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <y9%@byu.edu> yackd@maine.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) writes: > The HP's floating point performance is about twice as fast as the > Pentium, though. If you're going to be running NEXTSTEP, you _want_ > good floating point, because that's what Display PostScript uses. > Floating point isn't just for scientists anymore. It's for anyone > who uses NEXTSTEP. Look at how much CPU your windowserver uses > compared to other processes just doing integer stuff, and I'll go > with the Gecko myself, thank you very much. > > Not quite. The Pentium has a SPECfp92 rating of 57, both gecko models > one of 79 -- a difference of less than 40%, not 100%. [...] AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!! Those numbers CANNOT BE COMPARED!!! 57 SPECfp92 have been achieved in the intel labs on a special 586-based computer that you won't see in Computer- Shopper any time soon, if at all. SPECint92/SPECfp92 are *system level* benchmarks, not *chip-level* benchmarks. I.e. the 57 SPECfp92 intel claims for "the Pentium" are really for an intel- built, optimally equipped, superfast-chipsetted, fully-RAMmed, maximally- CACHEed computer based on the '586 which may not even be PC compatible and which may have run an operating system nobody has ever seen/will ever see on the market (same holds for the compiler), and *NOT* for the *CHIP*! At least that would be the most reasonable thing for intel to do to project SPEC*92 system level performance numbers onto a chip, i.e. they would be darn stupid if they didn't put enormous effort into building an optimum benchmarking machine. You'll have a very hard time finding any real world '586 system that comes even close to those numbers. The same is true for the 486 numbers, of course. This is because of the great variety of implementations in the PC arena. On the side of the gecko, HP can't change the chipset/bus/SCSI/cache etc. just for the benchmark. The SPEC*92 claimed for the gecko is what can be reached with the very gecko you buy at HP, plus additional RAM/disk etc. and the right compiler switches. I'd take the HP every time. Disclaimer: I felt a strong urge to wake up some of you as to what little truth is behind benchmarks, especially if they're as blatantly misquoted as the intel ones are, so I may have been a bit loud. At least now I feel better. -- Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@qb.rhein-main.de) What is the difference between Jurassic Park and Microsoft? One is an over-rated high tech theme park based on prehistoric information and populated mostly by dinosaurs, the other is a Steven Spielberg movie. (stolen from usenet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: c347a04@hawk.depaul.edu (Eric James Carlino) Subject: Are there any VLB SCSI cards for NS/FIP Sender: news@hal.depaul.edu (News Admin) Organization: DePaul University, Chicago Il. Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 12:25:04 GMT Message-ID: <1994Feb9.122504.15370@hal.depaul.edu> I just bought NS/FIP. I thought I had done my homework, but I apparently made one mistake. I figured since the NeXTanswers said that drivers would be ready for the Bus Logic 445S VLB SCSI adapter in Q4 93 that by Q1 94 they would be out. Guess not. Anyhow, I am going to return the Bus Logic, but I need to know ASAP: is anyone using a VLB SCSI adapter with NS/FIP? Which one? How well is it working? Where can I get drivers for it? Just by chance, anyone heard of drivers for the Bus Logic coming out?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest) Subject: Re: What's the deal with Fax modems for Intel? Message-ID: <CKyK5A.1tx@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Originator: mdw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T References: <2j6teb$q7e@cs.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:00:45 GMT In article <2j6teb$q7e@cs.ubc.ca> croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) writes: >NeXT's >documentation, NeXTanswers, and the FAQ are frustratingly >vague on fax modems. I have to agree. Sheesh - I have an AT&T Paradyne 14.4 Fax/Modem from work. I use it *only* for data calls (to work from home) because NeXT has no support for this Class 2 modem (although what Class 2 means is sort of still up in the air...). Such a waste of such a fancy modem... If NeXT would *DOCUMENT* what the interface to a roll-my-own Fax Driver is supposed to be (or just release source for the one that comes with the NeXT), I would be *GLAD* to write a driver for this Fax just so I don't have to keep switching between it and my DoveFax (an example of a Class 1 modem, BTW) just to send faxes. I'm not holding my breath... Mark -- Mark Wuest mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Sun Mailtool/NeXTMail Ok)
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Date: 9 Feb 1994 13:07:25 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jan6d$bt9@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Feb9.055325.24776@mail.vitech.fi> In article <1994Feb9.055325.24776@mail.vitech.fi> t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) writes: > > So, are you using Viper and onboard NCR SCSI2.....or S3 and Adaptec? > I suppose all XL models will be certified as they practically are the same > machines, right? (except Alpha-CPU models) > > -Jani Miettinen Right now, there is no support for the NCR on-board SCSI2 so we are using the Adaptec/Viper solution. The XL has no been offically certified, however NeXT won't be releasing the Viper driver for about two weeks (we are working with the final BETA and are shipping the XL without the driver) The Alpha version of the XL is not due until they get the daughtcard finished Q2/Q3 of this year. The new DG box is supposed to be identical to the DEC (probably a little faster because DG seems to optimize all of their systems for NeXTSTEP before they're shipped, however, it will not be Alpha-upgradable. Dave Dave -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki) Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice In-Reply-To: emt@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of 7 Feb 1994 02:42:10 GMT Message-ID: <KEN.94Feb9114939@ieyasu.phys.titech.ac.jp> Sender: news@phys.titech.ac.jp (Usenet News System) Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2j3nco$hu7@news.acns.nwu.edu> <MAGNUS.94Feb6163534@fisher.Stanford.EDU> <2j49q2$122@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 02:49:39 GMT In article <2j49q2$122@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> emt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Michael Taleff) writes: .... A curious thing happens with MMA now though. Instead of the swap growing with MMA, after running some models for a while MMA will get killed. I suspect that this behavior is related to the OS telling MMA that it can't have anymore swap.?? I'm running MMA 2.0, which is about three years old now. I haven't enlisted in the Wolfram upgrade program due to it's prohibitive cost. But, if anyone knows that newer MMA versions fix this and knows of a way to get a cheap or preferably free upgrade I'd be grateful of any info. This sounds more like /etc/swaptab has changed. In other words, somebody set a hiwater mark for the swapspace. I don't think this is a bug in mma. (well except that it's memory hungry.) I am running 3.1 and I can tell you that swapspace can grow without bound. (I have no hiwat, have compress on.) So as somebody else was commenting, depends on what you are doing. If you are going to use mma heavily, or open a lot of jpeg images at once, for instance, you are either going to need ram or need patience. I have only 16mb ram on nstc and I can tell you that I am about to break down and buy 16mb more. -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN $@@DLZ7r0l(J$@O:!$El5~9)6HBg3XM}3XItJ*M}3X2J!$")(J152 $@El5~ETL\9u6hBg2,;3(J
Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: ISA & SCSI systems Message-ID: <CKy1D7.9oB@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2iore4$ous@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <robert_clark.39.2D502281@ccm.hf.intel.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 06:15:06 GMT In article <robert_clark.39.2D502281@ccm.hf.intel.com> robert_clark@ccm.hf.intel.com (Robert B. Clark) writes: >In article <2iore4$ous@ftp-p.mccaw.com> david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) writes: >>From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) >>Subject: ISA & SCSI systems >>Date: 2 Feb 1994 18:29:24 GMT > > >> All of the ads that I've seen for systems with SCSI HDs come with EISA slots, >>while IDE systems come with ISA slots. This seems to make sense to me, because >>an IDE drive will be transferring data at 32 bits, as will an EISA controller >>and SCSI HD. > >I think you mean IDE HDs have 16bit data bus, not 32. > >> My question is: does it make sense to couple a SCSI HD with an ISA >>controller? The ISA controller will only be able to transfer data at 16 bits, >>and therefore should be significantly slower than an EISA controller, correct? > >It really depends on your future applications. SCSI boards, either PCI, EISA >or ISA can handle up to seven SCSI devices, whether they be HDs, CD-ROMs, Tape >Backup units, whatever. Without special electronics, a IDE type system can't >handle more than two IDE drives. But, SCSI is almost never on the >motherboard. IDE often is these days, with either a standard ISA type >connection or a newer PCI LB connection for Local Bus IDE capablity. > >You decide now, but it's your application that will decide in the future. > >-- >Robert >-I don't speak for Intel- > > >>-- >>// David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ... >>// david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_ [munch] If you have *both* IDE and SCSI at some point, you can get excellent disk-to-disk transfers because they don't interfere. david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube SCSI termination power ? Date: 9 Feb 1994 10:11:07 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402091556.AA01061@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> kdburg@incoahe.hanse.de (Klaus Dahlenburg) writes: > I don't know whether or not the Cube supplies power to > the TERMPWR pin. My Cube (68040) does. Gerd
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP (black hardware) question. Date: 9 Feb 1994 16:31:47 GMT Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jb35j$37t@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Jan31.040634.14189@cs.cornell.edu> <2iik1b$p9v@inxs.concert.net> To sense how much dsp memory you have, run the following little program. This senses 8k, 32k or 192k (64 x 3). /* * senseDSPMem - Tells you how much DSP memory is in your machine. * By David A. Jaffe */ #import <sound/sound.h> #import <mach/mach.h> #import <stdlib.h> #import <stdio.h> #define DSP_8K (0x1bff) #define DSP_32K (0x7bff) #define DSP_64K (0xfbff) int DSPSenseDSPMem(int *memCount) /* Returns 0 for success, 1 otherwise. * If successful, *memCount is 0x1fff for 8k, 0x7fff for 32k. */ { int s_err, size, result; kern_return_t k_err; port_t dev_port = 0, owner_port = 0, cmd_port; SNDSoundStruct *dspStruct; int i,*p; # define DSPBYTES (404) # define DSPCORESIZE (DSPBYTES/4) /* This is a DSP .lod file included in line */ int data[DSPCORESIZE]={ /* I don't know what these first 10 words are--probably some preamble. */ 0, 0, 0x5, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0x4, 0, 0x56, /* Word count */ /* This is the beginning */ 0xaf080, 0x44, /* jmp >reset */ /* Interrupt vectors */ 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, /* Location 0x40--putSamp */ 0xaa981, 0x40, /* jclr #m_htde,x:m_hsr,putSamp ;wait till host read prev wor\ d */ 0x8ce2b, /* movep a,x:m_htx ;move in new word */ 0xc, /* rts */ /* Location 0x44--reset */ 0x506ba, /* movec #6,omr ;data rom enabled, mode 2 */ 0xaa020, /* bset #0,x:m_pbc ;host port */ 0xaa323, /* bset #3,x:m_pcddr ; pc3 is an output with value */ 0xaa503, /* bclr #3,x:m_pcd ; zero to enable the external ram \ */ 0x8f4be, 0x0, /* movep #>$000000,x:m_bcr ;no wait states on the extern\ al sram */ 0x56f400,DSP_64K,/* move #>$fbff,a ;top of 64k memory */ 0x567000,DSP_64K,/* move a,x:$fbff ;write it there */ 0x56f400,DSP_32K,/* move #>$7bff,a ;top of 32k memory */ 0x567000,DSP_32K,/* move a,x:$7bff ;write it there */ 0x56f400,DSP_8K, /* move #>$1bff,a ;top of 8k memory */ 0x567000,DSP_8K, /* move a,x:$1bff ;write it there */ 0x56f000,DSP_64K,/* move x:$fbff,a ;fetch top of 32k memory */ 0xd0040, /* jsr putSamp ;host will check if it's been */ \ 0xc0059 /* jmp stop ;loop safely */ }; dspStruct = calloc(128 + 404,1); dspStruct->magic = SND_MAGIC; dspStruct->dataLocation = 128; dspStruct->dataSize = DSPBYTES; dspStruct->dataFormat = SND_FORMAT_DSP_CORE; p = (int *)dspStruct; p += 32; for (i=0; i<DSPCORESIZE; i++) p[i] = data[i]; if (SNDAcquire(SND_ACCESS_DSP, 0, 0, 0, NULL_NEGOTIATION_FUN, 0, &dev_port, &owner_port) != KERN_SUCCESS) return 1; if (snddriver_get_dsp_cmd_port(dev_port,owner_port,&cmd_port) != KERN_SUCCESS) return 1; if (SNDBootDSP(dev_port, owner_port, dspStruct) != SND_ERR_NONE) return 1; /* read one word from the DSP */ size = 1; if ((snddriver_dsp_read(cmd_port,(void *)(&result),&size,sizeof(int),0) != KERN_SUCCESS) || size != 1) return 1; *memCount = result; return 0; } main() { int i; if (DSPSenseDSPMem(&i)) fprintf(stderr,"can't open\n"); if (i==DSP_8K) printf("8k (assumed overlaid)\n"); else if (i==DSP_32K) printf("32k (assumed overlaid)\n"); else if (i==DSP_64K) printf("64k x 3 (assumed non-overlaid)\n"); else printf("%d\n",i); exit(0); }
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optimal HD Sector Sizes Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 23:01:05 -0600 Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2969851067.1.p00378@psilink.com> I attached a Micropolis 2210 harddrive [HD] to the SCSI daisy-chain on my NeXTStep mono slab (black hardware). Here are the statistics: Unformatted Capacity Total MBytes: 1247 Disk Platters: 5 Read/Write Head:9 Cylinders: 2372 Bytes/Track: Variable Formatted Capacity (typical) Total MBytes: 1050 Bytes/Sector: 512 Cylinders: 2360 Sectors/Track: Variable The problem is that after using BUILDDISK, I only had 877MB available to the system and NeXTStep perceived the disk to be a 1008MB drive. The disappointment comes from 370MB loss (1247 to 877). BTW, I am not using this drive as a boot disk. Can anyone tell me how I could get better MB value from the HD? Is this 30% loss normal? I've seen this drive listed as a 1.2GB and a 1.05GB in different advertisements. Is there some convention advertisers use or should be using in their ads? Please help!! I thank everyone in advance. Peace, James p00378@psilink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: emstech@improv.music.mcgill.ca Subject: Compatible mouse for NestStation ? Message-ID: <1994Feb9.150816.24593@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:08:16 GMT We are starting to have problem fixing our NexStations mice. Since the original mouse is hard to get I was wondering if anybody knew if they were other mouse (Mac, PC, SUN, AMIGA ...) that will work on a Next. I don't mind doing a little bit of soldering, if some of the pins setup need to be change. Thanks, Alain Terriault emstech@music.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900) Subject: Gateway P5-60 Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <CKyvq9.Cq3@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 17:10:57 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group Does anyone have any ideas what might be wrong with my P5-60 configuration. Gateway P5-60 32 MB RAM AHA 1542C Segate ST11200N HD Everything loads and works *only* with cache disabled. It is very slow. When cache is enabled then NS starts to boot then either hangs during Loading Kernel or kernel panics. Please email any suggestions, Thanks.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware Date: 9 Feb 1994 18:32:18 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2jba7j$5mq@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> Hi Carl: The Pentium system you mentioned does not have a NS driver for the Matrox card. However, according to Matrox, NeXT has one of these boards in-house at the moment (which may mean good news). By the way, the new version (Matrox MGA Ultima II PC) improved over 50% over earlier versions due to faster internal clocking. (For details, see PC Magazine Feb 22, 94, p.48.) By the time you would get a Matrox card to work, chances are that Pentium 60/90 computers will be shipping (May). Furthermore, Talus has written drivers for Dell's on-board (PCI?) SCSI chip that might further improve on PC performance. We all know that HP for the Gecko is announced, but neither priced nor available. I wouldn't hold my breath. It'll probably take until late summer. By that time, chances are that the Pentium machines will be almost as fast. The major advantage to me of an HP would be more reliable SCSI (and perhaps better video), as well as better floating point (although the 60/90 and subsequent Intel processors scheduled for later in the year [when NS will run] can probably come close). One piece of advice: buy from one vendor. There are good hardware vendors that are NeXTStep knowledgable (e.g., alpine,gec,talus), according to comments from people on the net, and if things are wrong (and they do tend to go wrong on PCs!!!) you have someone to talk to. I am still unhappy that whenever I have problems, I do not know if I should call my computer seller, my SCSI card seller (DPT), or NeXT itself. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: 9 Feb 1994 07:54:47 GMT Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ja4s7$j7c@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org> References: <2j5rfk$da2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2j5rfk$da2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) writes: > In article <2iuidv$g3@darkstar.isi.edu>, carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: > < bit deleted> > |> > |> In response to a couple of requests, and since the price list I have > |> doesn't say don't distribute, here is an edited version of it (I'm not > |> going to type in the entire thing). Contact an HP sales rep for > |> an actual quote. > |> > |> --mike > |> > |> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > |> > |> Here's a partial summary of the 712/60 and 712/80i price lists I have. > |> Note that the 60 and 80i have separate price lists, but for all of the > |> items I've listed here the prices are identical. The main exception is > |> that it appears that the 15in monitor isn't available with the 80i. > |> > |> The price list makes it sound as if you must purchase a CPU, monitor, > |> memory, disk, keyboard and OS. I've listed a couple of the options, > |> many others are available. > |> > |> cheers, > |> --mike > |> > |> 712/60 Bundled configuration: > |> Required: 712/60 bundle 3890 > |> 712/60, 15" monitor, 16MB, 260MB disk, and > |> > |> Required keyboard & mouse 105 > |> (called "Workstation Localization Kit") > |> > |> 712/60 and 712/80i Workstation prices: > |> U.S. List price > |> Required SPU: > |> HP 712/60 2085 > |> HP 712/80i 5135 > |> > |> Required Monitor: > |> 15in (1024x768) 625 (appears to not be available with 80i) > |> 17in (1024x768) 1800 > |> 17in (1280x1024) 2200 > |> 19in (1280x1024) 3800 > |> 11.8in (1024x768) 10595 > |> (Flat Panel Color Display) > |> > |> Required Memory: > |> 16MB (2x8MB) 1280 > |> 24MB (2x8MB+2x4MB) 1920 > |> 32MB (4x8MB) 2560 > |> 32MB (2x16MB) 3840 > |> 64MB (4x16MB) 7680 > |> > |> Required Internal Disk: > |> 260MB SCSI II 500 > |> 525MB SCSI II 1200 > |> 1GB SCSI II 2100 > |> > |> Required keyboard & mouse 105 > |> Required OS Release 9.0 125 > |> > |> Optional floppy drive 125 > |> Optional 2nd serial port 295 > |> Optional external CDROM 1095 > |> > > The question is what is ment by "Required", is that you have to buy one of the > list with the system. Or you need one of the following to make the system run. > Certainly the latter is true. The question is are HP working on the principle of > the former. > > Unfortunatly my impression from one chat with an HP rep was that you had to buy > one item from each of the required lists. > > john You have to take one item from each list. However the OS Release ($125) is for preinstallation on disk and is not required. You get a license to use HP-UX with the SPU. -- Jochen Richter Phone +49-721-696922 Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax +49-721-696988 D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org Germany jr@resy.kfk.de (>50K)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: How to network a NeXT slab and a MacII ci with ethernet? Message-ID: <CKz48s.AEL@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:14:51 GMT
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1542C with EISA? Date: 9 Feb 1994 20:13:30 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2jbg5a$djv@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I've used my Adaptec 1542C to install NeXTSTEP on my AST EISA machine. Can I expect to be able to use the 1542C on any EISA machine? I have to go up to San F. to install on an unknown EISA machine and I'm concerned the 1542C might not work. advTHANKSance jack jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <VLULBU1C@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <1994Feb5.190904.5731@cs.yale.edu> <VZSLBHNK@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <2j8gcd$ov2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:42:19 GMT Marcel Weiher (marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote: > trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: > >> In article <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert > >> Morris) writes: > >> > I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a > >> > laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have > ^^ > [..] > The 4M is the PostScript model. I bet Federico could've told you that... > Don't know about Alembic. Oh God, what did I say... Sorry! I didn't believe this is really a problem to connect a PS printer at a serial port :-( Of course Frederico would have known. Seems to me, I'm still living in the good old times when a laserjet needed some pacific page or hp PS cartridge in order to work... Still any Dots distributor should be able to help, as they should know about the cable problems :-) But what doesn't work then? Doesn't he have the ppd? I still would like to know. If he has a correct cable, shouldn't he be able to print *something*? I can't believe it's so difficult to produce the correct serial cables. I made my own, when I had to... And if the cables are correct, shouldn't the printer work, if root pipes some PS into /dev/ttyfa? Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2) Subject: Re: NeXT, Novell (NetWare) and Printers Message-ID: <CKz4u0.Aw1@news.cis.umn.edu> Keywords: NeXT, Novell, Networks, Printer Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota References: <CKxBIL.6oH@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:24:14 GMT Well, I ran NetWareManager and configured the NetWare printer with no trouble, and now I am enjoying 600 dpi graphics. Thanks to all for the help! -Sharad
From: Uwe Hunzelmann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADAPTEC 2842 Date: 9 Feb 1994 19:45:17 GMT Organization: AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jbegdINNrcb@hagen.amg.de> Has anyone experience with that VLB-Card. Does it run with the ususal 1542 Next-Step Driver -- ______________________________________________________ | Uwe Hunzelmann | | AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH -- | | EMail: uwe@amg.de | | Phone:+49.231.758920 | | FAX: +49.231.7589290 | -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%P*2&%S(&%N>6]N M92!E>'!E<FEE;F-E('=I=&@@=&AA="!63$(M0V%R9"Y<"D1O97,@:70@<G5N M('=I=&@@=&AE('5S=7-A;"`Q-30R($YE>'0M4W1E<"!$<FEV97)<"EP*7`HM M+5P*(%]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]? M7U]?7U]?7U]?7U]?7UP*?"!5=V4@2'5N>F5L;6%N;B`@("`@("`@("`@("`@ M("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@?%P*?"!!34<@26YD=7-T<FEE($-O M;G-U;'1I;F<@1VUB2"`M+2`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@?%P*?"`@("`@ M("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@14UA:6PZ('5W94!A;6<N9&4@("`@("`@("`@ M("`@?%P*?"`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@4&AO;F4Z*S0Y+C(S,2XW M-3@Y,C`@("`@("`@("`@?%P*?"`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@1D%8 A.B`@*S0Y+C(S,2XW-3@Y,CDP("`@("`@("`@?%P*"GT* `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Message-ID: <1994Feb9.224452.14371@icaen.uiowa.edu> Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon) Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2jba7j$5mq@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:44:52 GMT ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: >Hi Carl: >The Pentium system you mentioned does not have a NS driver for the Matrox >card. However, according to Matrox, NeXT has one of these boards in-house at >the moment (which may mean good news). By the way, the new version (Matrox >MGA Ultima II PC) improved over 50% over earlier versions due to faster >internal clocking. (For details, see PC Magazine Feb 22, 94, p.48.) >By the time you would get a Matrox card to work, chances are that Pentium >60/90 computers will be shipping (May). Furthermore, Talus has written >drivers for Dell's on-board (PCI?) SCSI chip that might further improve on >PC performance. >We all know that HP for the Gecko is announced, but neither priced nor >available. I wouldn't hold my breath. It'll probably take until late summer. >By that time, chances are that the Pentium machines will be almost as fast. >The major advantage to me of an HP would be more reliable SCSI (and perhaps >better video), as well as better floating point (although the 60/90 and >subsequent Intel processors scheduled for later in the year [when NS will >run] can probably come close). Comparing current HP offerings with future Intel offerings is a bit silly, is it not? HP will be announcing faster stuff in their higher end workstation line soon, and I've heard the current 712 machines will be obsolete in six months, replacing by newer faster stuff. If you are getting a machine to run NeXTStep later, rather than now, you should wait and compare what each offers then, rather than talking about 'what ifs' for Intel drivers and faster Pentiums, versus 'available nows' for HP stuff. You might also want to see how much support there is from everyone for PA-RISC NS stuff, that market is probably going to be quite small compared to the base of Motorola (black) hardware and Intel machines. dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu || Smaller is better. In a .sig, at least!
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 8 Feb 1994 12:07:06 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2j7roq$dt@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <CEDMAN.94Feb6125738@capitalist.princeton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: > >1). Pentium (with cache expandable or shipped at 256 K) > Not necessary, because too expensive. It gives you a performance gain of > about 25% (in comparison to a DX2/66) for twice the price. >Not according to the benchmarks I've seen. A 60 MHz Pentium runs code >optimized for a 486 about 70% faster and code optimized for a Pentium >about 100% faster than a DX2/66. This is a rather meager performance >increase for a CPU upgrade, but not even Intel would dare to put out a >CPU which is only 25% faster than the last one. > If you want to get a good performance-for-money ratio, Pentium is > out of the question. If money is secondary, wait for a HP Gecko - > at least twice the performance of a Pentium. > >Not according to the numbers quoted from Open Systems Today here >recently. A 66 MHz Pentium has an integer performance (which is what >you care about mostly unless you do scientific simulations) of 67 >SPECint92, just in the middle between the low-end 712/60 at 58 >SPECint92 and the high-end 712/80 at 84 SPECint92. I did not want to compare numbers - they can tell anything or nothing. What I meant with 25 % performance increase is the feeling you have working on a Pentium NS/I machine - I don't have one, but that is the common sense of most people who do. I know of Pentium systems reporting 50 - 55 VAX-Mips with NXBench. My DX/2 gets 40. There may be some tasks where a Pentium may be significantly faster, but for everday's work I wouldn't mind the difference between a P5/60 and a DX2/66, if I consider the difference in price. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside. --- Waiting for the HP Gecko !!!
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,nwu.general,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 8 Feb 1994 12:16:39 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2j7san$et@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2ior42$qt3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2j3kmc$h57@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit gof@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gerald Fountain) writes: >Just a few comments :-) >In article <2ivkor$10e@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, >Markus Wenzel <mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wrote: >>Why a Local Bus if you have PCI? The ATI GUP PCI already works, some smart >Point of clarification: PCI is a "local bus" type. There are two competing >standards. VESA (which will do 64-bit memory in rev 2.0) and PCI (Intel). Of course PCI is a "local bus", but in common speak people don't refer to PCI as local bus, local bus has become almost a synonym for Vesa local bus. Excuse my misunderstanding. >>>6). 450 M hard drive (not necessarily very fast one), IDE or SCSI >>Forget IDE. >Tsk, Tsk. COST is a factor. For now IDE might be a viable choice as the >cost of the controller is significantly less. But since we are also looking >for a SCSI CD-ROM (higher cost but a better choice IMHO), the added cost of >the SCSI controller is justified. IDE drives are fast, and the data transfer >rate can be *very* good off of a decent local bus (PCI/VESA) card. Just make >sure whatever SCSI adapter you get is supported directly by NeXT-Step and >has all the drivers you need to support the CD-ROM you select. If someone plans to purchase a P5/PCI system, I cannot see why IDE vs. SCSI is a question of cost. A good PCI board has a NCR SCSI controller onboard. And big and fast SCSI-II disks are available at reasonable prices. >Do not underestimate the speed of a drive. In a unix type environment (like >NeXT-Step), the speed of a drive can be very apparent. When you *do* swap >(and you will), access time and transfer rate become significant and >noticeable. Of course! The brand new DEC DSP and Seagate Barracuda drives *scream*. I've got about doubled my disk I/O throughput with a DEC DSP3053 compared to the former Fujitsu 2624. Show me one IDE drive/controller combination that can compete with it (DrivePerformance Index about 1.55). -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Intel aside. --- Waiting for the HP Gecko !!!
From: "Jared M. Oberhaus" <oberhaus+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1520 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:32:40 -0500 Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MhKL_Mi00iV38j=LBU@andrew.cmu.edu> Apparently I can't get this old 1520 to work with NeXTStep. Can I convince NextStep to work with it? Are there plans to support it? (I just want to install with it, I have IDE drives!) Has anyone else fooled either the card or NextStep to work with this? Is it easy to write a driver for it? Oh well... My other question is, If I have to buy another SCSI card, can I get a cheap card, like Future Domain to look just like an Adaptec 1542 or something else supported by NextStep? One of the 8-bit Future Domain cards costs only $70! Thanks for any answers... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jared M. Oberhaus oberhaus+@CMU.EDU Electrical and Computer Engineering Class of 1994 Carnegie Mellon University -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "James "Mike" Conley" <conley@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: What's the deal with Fax modems for Intel? Message-ID: <1994Feb9.193525.26491@news.cs.indiana.edu> Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University References: <2j6teb$q7e@cs.ubc.ca> <CKyK5A.1tx@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:35:19 -0500 I'd have to agree with that. Why not just publish the code for the DoveFax or Interfax as a programming example. It isn't like this is code is a big strategic advantage that NeXT holds over other vendors. --Mike
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Difference of Binary data format on Intel and Black Date: 10 Feb 1994 01:41:47 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2jc3cr$e9f@news.service.uci.edu> I created a binary dat file on NeXT Step 2.1 black, copied it to a NS/3.2 on Intel, but could not read it, or more exactly, the read out was wrong. Here is the program to create the data. main() { int imax; FILE *fp; fp = fopen("test.bin",'w'); imax = 161; fwrite(fp,sizeof(int),1,&imax); close(fp); } And here is the program to read the data. main() { int imax; FILE *fp; fp = fopen("test.bin",'r'); imax = 161; fread(fp,sizeof(int),1,&imax); close(fp); } If I run the write and read programs on the same platform, Intel or black, I got the right read out. If I run the write on black, and read on Intel, or vice versa, it does not give the right answer. However, if I run the write on a DEC station, I can read correctly on the Intel under NS/3.2 but not on NeXT black. It seems to me NS/I uses different binary format from that of Black NS. But NS/I uses the same format as DEC under whatever DEC unix system. Why would NeXT use different binary format on black and Intel? Is there any way to force the C compiler to choose a certain format? Any Info will help. Thank you. Feng Liu UC, Irvine
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Optimal HD Sector Sizes Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:58:43 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ohKMP3O00iV94ARl1_@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2969851067.1.p00378@psilink.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Feb-94 Optimal HD Sector Sizes by "James Gaines"@psilink.c > The problem is that after using BUILDDISK, I only had 877MB available > to the system and NeXTStep perceived the disk to be a 1008MB drive. > The disappointment comes from 370MB loss (1247 to 877). BTW, I am not > using this drive as a boot disk. Can anyone tell me how I could get > better MB value from the HD? Is this 30% loss normal? This loss is normal, as there is some overhead for the filesystem and an additional 10% reserve for speed reasons. 877MB is exactly the amount of space I have left on my Micropolis 2210 drive. Normally, you could reformat the drive with larger sectors, but the servo mechanism used in this drive won't permit that. > I've seen this drive listed as a 1.2GB and a 1.05GB in different > advertisements. Is there some convention advertisers use or should be > using in their ads? Please help!! I thank everyone in advance. One problem comes from people misrepresenting "K" and "M". For example, a megabyte is 1.04 million bytes. The drive may well hold 1,200,000,000 bytes, which is 1008 Mbytes. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Re: To hell with next Message-ID: <dgursky.760844337@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> <2j9con$i9l@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:38:57 GMT jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: >I think the 4M has or uses its serial port for AppleTalk. You might >want to check your instruction manuals for info on how to switch it back >to a plain Ascii stream input. Especially if you've had the thing >talking to a MAC recently. The HP LJ 4M has a seperate serial port and Localtalk interface (note that Appletalk is the proprietary networking protocol suite developed by Apple for the Mac OS.) -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 608-2144 Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 495-3036
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Disk Partitioning Lore: DOS+NT+NS works Message-ID: <1994Feb10.023347.27250@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:33:47 GMT Here's some firsthand lore for the FAQ. Executive Summary: It is possible to install DOS, Windows NT with NTFS, and NEXTSTEP/FIP on the same disk, and select which partition is booted at boot time. I spent some time experimenting with a 200MB SCSI disk. I wanted to see if the following configuration would be possible: Partition 1 Primary DOS Partition 2 Extended DOS Partition 3 Windows NT NTFS Partition 4 NS/FIP 3.2 Since Windows NT requires at least 70MB for installation, and NS/FIP requires at least 120MB, there wasn't much room for DOS! Ultimately, I only tested a three partition system (DOS, NTFS, NS/FIP), but I have no reason to believe that the extended DOS wouldn't also work. The recipe is as follows: * Preparation. You need a bootable DOS floppy that has FORMAT.COM on it. You need another (blank) floppy for installing NT. * Start with the NS/FIP installation. When it asks you how you want to configure your disk, it gives you three choices, which are basically 1) erase the whole disk and use it all for NS/FIP, 2) save some room for DOS, 3) advanced. Choose the advanced option, which places you in NS/FIP fdisk (not to be confused with DOS FDISK.EXE). * Create three partitions in this order: 1) Primary DOS (if more than 32MB desired, use the "large" FAT option) 2) HPFS (this is a placeholder for NT, and can be any non-DOS format) 3) NEXTSTEP * Proceed with the rest of the NEXTSTEP installation. * When NEXTSTEP is safely installed and tested out, boot DOS from your bootable DOS floppy. * FORMAT the DOS partition (which should be Drive C if you made it the first partition). You want to FORMAT C:/S, to install the boot code to make the DOS partition bootable. * Once DOS is safely formated and tested out, insert the NT installation floppy and reboot. * Proceed with the NT installation. Tell Setup to install NT in the second partition (which shows up as "Unformatted"). You can select NTFS for FAT format. * Insert the blank floppy when asked. Don't bother to format it, NT unconditionally formats it. * If you select NTFS, there is a scary part of the installation that makes it seem like NT can't reboot. In fact, it is converting the installed files from FAT to NTFS in place. Just let it keep rebooting until it finishes, don't interrupt it like I did. * Finish setting up NT and test it out. It should be able to see the DOS partition in FileManager. * Likewise, there should be a DOS filesystem in / on NS/FIP. If you configured NT for FAT instead of NTFS, there should be two DOS filesystems in /. That's it. When you boot, you see the familiar NS/FIP multibooter. If you select DOS, it boots NT, which in turn offers you a chance to boot DOS or NT (not NS/FIP, of course). Kinda weird that you have this two tiered boot, but it's probably because the bootsector has been modified by NT. I haven't tried setting the active partition to DOS -- that might avoid the two tiers. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Holcomb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Date: 9 Feb 1994 22:53:41 -0400 Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jc7jl$nfg@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> References: <CKoBAw.32E@relief.com> <2j40h4$jlg@inxs.concert.net> : We currently have an XL 560 which we are shipping this week to a customer is : SC. The machine has now been certified by NeXT, however the driver for the : video will not be ready posted to ftp.next.com for about two weeks. The beta : driver we received from DEC is very stable and our customer in South Carolina : will split almost evenly between the XL and the NEW DATA GENERAL box which : exceeds the DEC in raw speed and will be equal to the DEC as far as video : (although it is not certified yet, we expect delivery tomorrow bring DEC to two I would seriously consider buying a DEC PC XL if only it had a PCI/EISA bus. *sigh* Dave Holcomb holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu dholcomb@microsoft.com
From: holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Holcomb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.hp.hardware Date: 9 Feb 1994 23:23:30 -0400 Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA Message-ID: <2jc9bi$pke@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote: : My NeXTstation mono has now reached the age where I seriously consider : a) a Royal Pentium 66 MHz, PCI/EISA tower with 16 MBytes of RAM, 512 : kBytes of cache, a 21" Viewsonic monitor and a 4 MB VRAM Matrox : MGA-II graphics card for $5375. Add to this $2k for a 2.1 GByte : Barracuda SCSI drive, another $1k or so for an additional 32 MBytes : of RAM and $150 for an Adaptec scsi card to use temporarily and the : system adds up to $8.5k. God! I can't believe someone else is looking to buy the same system (almost) I want to buy from the same company! I am looking to get a NeXTSTEP-compatible machine myself, but am afraid the above system won't be fully compatible. I called NeXT about a week and a half ago and they said there was no support yet for the Matrox video cards. (I was asked if I wanted to write the driver!) Then I called Matrox (in Canada) and asked if they were writing drivers for NeXTSTEP and they said they weren't sure they were going to support NeXTSTEP. BTW, the system I priced was almost the same, with 32M RAM, 2GB Seagate SCSI-2 drive (don't know model, but *not* the barracuda), 14.4k modem (I think), Matrox MGA-II (3 or 4 MB VRAM), 16550 UART, Adaptec SCSI-II controller (don't know which model), 17" Sony monitor (the new one, not the crummy CPD-1730) (BTW this monitor may have been priced with the ViewSonic 17 instead -- I have priced from so many places and some cannot get the new Sony), NEC 3x CD-ROM, and a 3 button serial mouse (Logitech). Price was $6.3k. They swore that no one else would be able to beat it. (Without resorting to cheaper peripherals, this is true so far.) I was hoping the price would be < $6000 (I only want to spend $5-6k for a machine). If Carl or anyone else can verify that this system will run NeXTSTEP without any hitches, please let me know!! I could probably get this system within the week. Alternatively, if you know of any dealers offering a similar system that is compatible with NeXTSTEP for the same price or lower, again, please let me know! I will kiss your feet if you ever make it to Redmond and get a hold of me! As a side question: Is it preferred that NeXTSTEP be installed on a drive by itself? I want to (eventually) run Windows 4.0, NetBSD 1.0, and NeXTSTEP 3.x on the same system. If NeXTSTEP prefers to have an entire drive dedicated to itself, I may want to get a 500M hard drive and two 1GB hard drives instead. Thanks for all help, Dave Holcomb holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu dholcomb@microsoft.com
From: pranav@char.vnet.net (Pranav Patel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next (HPLJ4-NeXT) Date: 10 Feb 1994 00:35:06 -0500 Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Message-ID: <2jch2a$lte@char.vnet.net> References: <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> <2j5us1$3vh@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: >In article <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) writes: >>rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) writes: >> >>>I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a >>>laserjet 4m. >> I share in your frustrations. I spent a week going through several pre-configured cables and nothing seem to work. So I decided that i would do hardware(I am a software developer) and make my own cable, this was not a pretty site with having to solder small thin wires to very samll thin pins on a din-8 connector... to make the story short. I was able to now print from my 040 cube to my laserJet 4. An ordinary cable will not work! I will be happy to build you one if you like... just send me some e-mail. Please don't give up on NeXT. >You don't need any special driver for HPLJ 4/4M driven via serial/parallel port. >If you are talking about the PPD file for the printer (pls, don't call a PPD >file a driver), standard Release 3.2 already includes it on the CDROM. The file >will end up in /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/. >No need to go hunting on the net. This is correct... you can also use the laserjet III PPD with 3.1. LaserJet 4 ppd is in 3.2. >-- >Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] Pranav Patel pranav@pujancorp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) Subject: PowerPC Apple days away, wierd things happening in Bay Area Message-ID: <CKzw0o.3xB@unix.portal.com> Summary: PowerPC may only be days away! Keywords: PowerPC, Apple Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 06:14:44 GMT There are very strange things going on at Fry's Electronics here in Sillicon Valley. Fry's is a major Toys R US like store for computer nerds. They usually carry a great deal of Apple's equipment. Today, someone told me that they were almost completely out of MacIntoshes. This store usually carries truck loads of them. They have been known to clean out there inventory a week before they introduce a new line of computers. I suspect that they are getting ready to sell the PowerPC. This means that the first shot will soon be fired in a major CPU price war. The target retail price for the Apple system is $2000 (8 megs of RAM / 160 meg hard drive). Intel already said that they would respond with a price cut when Apple's PowerPC is introduced. If this system is a major hit, maybe NeXT we will see NeXTSTeP on Apples. Brad Wright wwright@premisys.com wwright@shell.portal.com
From: csmith@gmu.edu (Christian Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Using Dot matrix printer on a cube Date: 8 Feb 1994 21:11:11 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2j8v5f$pbc@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to set up a Macintosh ImageWritter serial printer to print from a NeXTCube? Thanks for the help. -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
From: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (David Jeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerPC Apple days away, wierd things happening in Bay Area Date: 10 Feb 1994 08:51:01 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2jcshl$ht3@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CKzw0o.3xB@unix.portal.com> Keywords: PowerPC, Apple wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) writes: >price war. The target retail price for the Apple system is >$2000 (8 megs of RAM / 160 meg hard drive). Intel already >said that they would respond with a price cut when Apple's >PowerPC is introduced. If this system is a major hit, maybe >NeXT we will see NeXTSTeP on Apples. I was just in a legnthy discussion about this with someone tonight. I'm not sure that NeXT is in a position to commit the resources to such a project. We came to the conclusion that there could be great potential in a NeXT/Apple "re-uniting". While there are many in grained hostilities between these two companies, looking at the facts it could be good for both of them. 1) from what I hear Taligent is not going to be too successfull as the OOP os of the Future. (i.e. I have heard it's not OOP enough because of all the system 7 compatibility... I don't keep up with Mac stuff so excuse my ignorance) 2) NeXT is conceptually easy to use for most mac users. 3) NeXT needs a way to get into the market Big. With NeXT users at 100,000. Mac users at over 10 Million, and Windows users at 35-50 million (who knows.. everyone argues about this one), NeXT needs a place to get more than a chip off the market. 4) Many mac users like the Macintosh because "it just works". I'm sure getting used to a new look and feel would be strange for Mac users, but overall, it would still "just work". I know this is a difficult issue, and running System 7 software would have to be addressed, and I doubt that Apple could/would stop shipping system 7, but as we all know, the "goals" of the next generation OS products are already in NeXTStep.. so everyone would win. I would like to add, I'm not very partial to apple at all. I personally would feel better if I never had to buy any apple products, but in alot of ways, it seems to make sense. My personal preference would be to get "PReP PPC NeXTStep" and run it on some PReP compliant PPC machine. It just seems that a apple/next agreemtn might be better. After all, with all the "dreams" of a PowerOpen operating system standard which seem to be getting more and more vague, maybe NeXTStep, running on PPC and Intel (and maybe 040 too) would bridge the gap :) Well.. I'm done with my wishfull thinking. No flames please, these are only cursory thoughts, not Corprate Merger proposals. -- David Jeske(N9LCA)/CompEng Student at Univ of Ill at Cham-Urbana/NeXT Programmer CoCreator of the GTalk Chat Software System - online at (708)998-0008 Mail: jeske@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu NeXTMail: jeske@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Subject: Does anyone lease NeXTStep laptops? Message-ID: <1994Feb9.220900.367@agog.com> Sender: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Organization: Agog, Inc. Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:09:00 GMT I would like to lease a laptop for a few months with 3.2 preloaded. Does anyone know of a company that leases such a machine? -greg. -- Greg Cockroft greg@agog.com Agog, Inc. 13780 North River Highway Grand Ledge, MI 48837
From: hironobu@sra.CO.JP (Hironobu SUZUKI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ByteBenchmark test result. Date: 10 Feb 1994 11:38:21 GMT Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan Distribution: usa Message-ID: <HIRONOBU.94Feb10203821@sran265.sra.CO.JP> References: <2ivl71$11q@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <1994Feb8.230010.9310@mrk.com> In-reply-to: jerald@mrk.com's message of Tue, 8 Feb 1994 23:00:10 GMT In article <1994Feb8.230010.9310@mrk.com> jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) writes: >>This is the ByteBenchmark run on our Micron Pentium with 32 meg memory >>and 1.2 GIG seagate drive on an Adaptec ISA SCSI controller. The low >>disk scores are the fault of the ISA controller I am sure. These >>benchmarks where run from the terminal app. if the Window Server >>being active would taint the results, let me know and I'll run them >>again without (didn't think about that till just now). Anyways, hope >>this helps. Thanks for your posting. I think if Benchmark test run from terminal.app or console, there may be few different between them. --hironobu ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hironobu Suzuki Practical Software Engineering Laboratory Software Research Associates, Inc, Japan. 3-12, Yotsuya, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, 160, JAPAN. E-Mail: hironobu@sra.co.jp NeXT-Mail: hironobu@ext247.sra.co.jp
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does anyone lease NeXTStep laptops? Date: 10 Feb 1994 14:21:37 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jdfti$32c@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Feb9.220900.367@agog.com> In article <1994Feb9.220900.367@agog.com> greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) writes: > > I would like to lease a laptop for a few months with 3.2 preloaded. > > Does anyone know of a company that leases such a machine? We can lease the Compaq, the NEC or the AST solutions, and most resellers probably can, however, minimum leasing period is USUALLY one year. If you'd like more info, email Dave -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: Need disktab for 128M MO drive Message-ID: <1994Feb10.150517.4549@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:05:17 GMT Can anyone send me a /etc/disktab entry for a Fujitsu M2511A 128M MO drive? Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------- Dr W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware From: brada@ses21.sesinc.com (Brad Albom) Subject: Need ASAP: Tahiti-1 M-O Disk Conversion Service Message-ID: <CKzFCo.HL3@ses11.shpk.ses.com> Followup-To: poster Sender: usenet@ses11.shpk.ses.com Organization: Software Engineering Solutions, Inc Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 00:14:47 GMT I'm posting this to help out another company in need of a magneto-optical disk coversion service. They have a Magneto-Optical Disk created with a Tahiti-1 drive using the non-ISO format (1Gig, 500Meg per side). They need to be able to read this data (publishing, color separation related) and write it to 3 1/2" Magneto-Optical 128Meg Disks (they think these will be Mac compatible). Unfortunately, they don't know much about how the original disk was created, so there will likely be some amount of trial and error involved. I'm sure they are willing to pay for this service. If you have one of these Tahiti-1 drives & would like to undertake this work, please email or call me and I'd be happy to put you in touch with them. Thanks, -brad albom Software Engineering Solutions, Inc 2685 Marine Way, Suite 1215, Mountain View, CA 94043 Voice: (415) 969-0141 Fax : (415) 969-0177 Email: brada@sesinc.com Alt : oilean!ses11!brada@sgi.com
From: eric@skatter.usask.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Old-style NeXT mouse pinout Date: 10 Feb 1994 02:25:37 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <2jc5v1$eej@tribune.usask.ca> I recall seeing this information a few years back, but I didn't bother saving it :-(. Anyhow, where can I find the pinout of the old-style NeXT mouse? With 8 pins, I presume the signals are: +5v Ground X encoder phase A X encoder phase B Y encoder phase A Y encoder phase B Left switch Right switch But which signal goes to which pin? Thanks, -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: strickla@aludra.usc.edu (Bryan Strickland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does NEC 3xe work with NextStep Intel Date: 10 Feb 1994 08:50:03 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: strickla@aludra.usc.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2jdojr$bn4@aludra.usc.edu> Hello, sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't find it in the FAQ. Does the NEC 3Xe CD rom drive work with NextStep? Thanks Bryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2) Subject: Mail.app not running Message-ID: <CL0ooC.KFF@news.cis.umn.edu> Followup-To: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:30:33 GMT Odd things are afoot in my 'Station.... I double click the Mail.app icon in the /NeXTApps directory, the icon docks itself at the bottom of the screen, HD spins, then I'm dumped back into workspace manager, Mail.app is not running and I am unhappy. Yipes, what's going on? I see nothing in the Console window when this is occurring, but I can use mail in Mach shell without any trouble. Furthermore, If I log in under other accounts, Mail.app works fine. Any ideas or suggestions will be most graciously accepted. I could even send you NeXTMAIL if it works... Cheers to 'NetLand, Sharad (please save bandwidth and reply via email!!!!) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218 Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201 Department of Neurosurgery University of Minnesota email: 421 Lions Research Building sharad@nextear.psych.umn.edu 2001 6th St. SE shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Minneapolis, MN 55455
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: madani@next.cc.wmich.edu (Bardia Madani) Subject: looking for fax modem(urgent) Message-ID: <1994Feb10.170924.26423@sol.cs.wmich.edu> Sender: news@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Usenet Maintenance) Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept. Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 17:09:24 GMT Can anyone recommend a fax modem that i can get for my NeXTstation? I have heard about Supra Fax Modem 14.4 and i think it is reasonable, But how about software. I called SupraFax but the sales man didn't know about any software that i can use. Does anyone know where i can buy DFax or NXFax? I have no idea which one is better. I like to Know which one work better.
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does NEC 3xe work with NextStep Intel Message-ID: <2jdqc9$62d@inxs.concert.net> Date: 10 Feb 94 17:20:08 GMT References: <2jdojr$bn4@aludra.usc.edu> Distribution: usa Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <2jdojr$bn4@aludra.usc.edu> strickla@aludra.usc.edu (Bryan Strickland) writes: > > Hello, > > sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't find it in the FAQ. > Does the NEC 3Xe CD rom drive work with NextStep? Thanks > > Bryan YES! -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compatible mouse for NestStation ? Date: 10 Feb 1994 11:45:12 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402101734.AA01305@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> > We are starting to have problem fixing our NexStations mice. Since > the original mouse is hard to get I was wondering if anybody knew > if they were other mouse (Mac, PC, SUN, AMIGA ...) that will work > on a Next. It should be possible. I once got sick and tired of the Mouse on my PC (the ball was to light weighted), and rewired and connected a Next-mouse to the Logitec-Busmouse board. It works ever since (6 months), i assume, it can be done the other way around, to. What you would need, is a 'non intelligent' mouse (so NO serial mouse). I'd try an ATARI or AMIGA-mouse, since a bus-mouse usually comes with a card you don't need... With a simple DMM you should be able to figure out, what to connect where. Gerd
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Date: 10 Feb 1994 11:45:20 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402101739.AA01310@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > > We all know that HP for the Gecko is announced, but neither > priced nor available. > The Gecko is even available in Germany!!! And there IS an Alpha-NEXTSTEP for the Gecko!!! Gerd
From: npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov (Nick Christenson, Jet Propulsion Laboratory) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Uninteruptable Power Source FAQ Date: 10 Feb 1994 19:07:00 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Distribution: world Message-ID: <2je0kk$sjn@phoebe.jpl.nasa.gov> This is the 1.0 version of the Uninteruptable Power Souce FAQ (UPS.faq). It is available via anonymous FTP from navigator.jpl.nasa.gov in the pub/doc/faq directory. Many people have a been a great help in improving this document from my first release. I want to thank them most sincerely. The one thing that I didn't get help on was which groups to post this to. Right now I've settled on the following: comp.unix.admin comp.sys.sun.hardware comp.sys.hp.hardware comp.sys.next.hardware comp.sys.sgi.hardware I plan to try to get it posted to comp.answers as well. Are there any groups that should be added to the list above? Are there any groups that this is posted to where it is inappropriate? Here it is: ------------------cut here------------- Uninteruptable Power Source (UPS) FAQ. VERSION 1.0, February 10, 1994 Sections: 01: What is this document all about? 02: What is an UPS and how does is work? 03: UPS monitoring/shutdown software. 04: How big an UPS do I need? 05: Specific manufacturer's info. 06: Acknowledgments 01: TOPIC: What is this document all about? 01.01 Q: What is this document? A: This is a prototype for a FAQ document on Uninteruptable Power Sources. It is intended to provide a starting point for those people that want to find out what they are, what they do, and what's available. 01.02 Q: How is this document made available? A: Well, we kinda need to decide this. I suggest it be posted to the newsgroup comp.unix.admin, news.answers and comp.answers at regular intervals, say once a month. It probably ought to be posted to other groups as well, but I don't know which ones. If I post it to every group where UPS questions get asked, that would be a lot of groups. This document is also available via anonymous FTP. The master sits on navigator.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.23.82) in pub/doc/faq as the file UPS.FAQ. It will probably be mirrored on other machines and contributed to rtfm.mit.edu. 01.03 Q: Who maintains this? A: Right now, this document is maintained by Nick Christenson. My preferred email address is npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov, and I would like it very much if questions regarding this document could have the word "UPS or UPS FAQ" or some such in the Subject line. Note: I am maintaining this on my own time, so please don't be upset if it takes a while for me to respond to your queries. 01.04 Q: Where did this information come from? A: Thankfully, several people have rallied to my cry to fill in the many gaps in my original draft. This is now the work of many people, although I claim full responsibility for misstatements and inaccuracies. 01.05 Q: How can I contribute? A: You should mail new information, corrections, suggestions, etc. to the current maintainer of this FAQ. If you provide a suggestion, make sure you reference where the information is located in the document. I guarantee that suggestions of the form "Change the word 'always' to 'almost always' in the part about surge suppression." will be ignored. 01.06 Q: Are there any restrictions on distribution of this document? A: You are encouraged to freely distribute this document for any non-commercial purpose as long as the contents remain unchanged. 01.07 Q: Got anything else you'd like to add? A: Yes, now that you mention it. The people who contribute to this document can speak only about equipment they have experience with. This may reflect a bias toward or against certain brands, features, functions, etc.. Please keep in mind that the suggestions, brand names and functions here are by no means exhaustive, or even necessarily applicable to your situation. Also, if you have information that is not in this document, please submit it to the maintainer listed above. 02: TOPIC: What is an UPS and how does it work? 02.01 Q: What is an UPS? A: An Uninteruptable Power Source is a device that sits between a power supply (e.g. a wall outlet) and a device (e.g. a computer) to prevent power outages from the supply from affecting the device. 02.02 Q: Vendor X says that (fill in description) is an UPS, but it's different that what you describe above. Who's right? A: There really is no standard definition of what an UPS is. Anything ranging from a 9 volt battery backup in a clock radio to a building/compound wide backup generator has been called an UPS by someone. The majority of this document refers to objects larger than a beer can and smaller than a desk that help devices remain functional when their power supply would otherwise interrupt their function. Maintaining power to a minicomputer (like a VAX 11) is beyond the scope of this document. This FAQ deals with UPS equipment that can be installed by a computer owner/administrator If you have requirements that large, you need to talk to a qualified electrician. 02.03 Q: Can you give me some more information on this? A: (Kindly provided by Don Deal, Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu) The UPS industry is made up of many manufacturers, and there is a lack of standard terms within the industry. I think this sometimes borders on deliberate misdirection. (It's a jungle out there!) There are basically three different types of devices, all of which are occasionally passed off as UPSs. 1. Standby power supply (SPS). In this type of supply, power is usually derived from directly from the power line, until power fails. After power failure, a battery powered inverter turns on to continue supplying power. Batteries are charged, as necessary, when line power is available. This type of supply is sometimes called an "offline" UPS. The quality and effectiveness of this class of devices varies considerably; however, they are generally quite a bit cheaper than "true" UPSs. The time required for the inverter to come online, typically called the switchover time, varies by unit. While some computers may be able to tolerate long switchover times, your mileage may vary. Other features to look for in this class of supplies is line filtering and/or other line conditioners. Since appliances connected to the supply are basically connected directly from the power line, SPSs provide relatively poor protection from line noise, frequency variations, line spikes, and brownouts. 2. Hybrid UPS systems. I only know one vendor who sells them - Best Power, Inc. The theory behind these devices is fairly simple. When normal operating line power is present, the supply conditions power using a ferroresonant transformer. This transformer maintains a constant output voltage even with a varying input voltage and provides good protection against line noise. The transformer also maintains a constant output voltage even with a varying input voltage and provides good protection against line noise. The transformer also maintains output on its secondary briefly when a total outage occurs. Best claims that their inverter then goes online so quickly that it is operating without any interruption in power. Other UPS vendors maintain that the transition is less than seamless, but then again it's not in their best interest to promote Best's products. Best has a sizable part of the UPS market. 3. What I call "true" UPS systems, those supplies that continuously operate from an inverter. Obviously, there is no switchover time, and these supplies generally provide the best isolation from power line problems. The disadvantages to these devices are increased cost, increased power consumption, and increased heat generation. Despite the fact that the inverter in a "true" UPS is always on, the reliability of such units does not seem to be affected. In fact, we have seen more failures in cheaper SPS units. 02.03 Q: How can it help me? A: An UPS has internal batteries to guarantee that continuous power is provided to the equipment even if the power supply stops providing power. Of course the UPS can provide power for a while, typically a few minutes, but that is often enough to ride out power company glitches or short outages. Advantages: 1) Computer jobs don't stop because the power fails. 2) Users not inconvenienced by computer shutting down. 3) Equipment does not incur the stress of another (hard) power cycle. 02.04 Q: What sort of stuff does an UPS do? A: An UPS traditionally can perform the following functions: 1) Absorb relatively small power surges. 2) Smooth out noisy power sources. 3) Continue to provide power to equipment during line sags. 4) Provide power for some time after a blackout has occurred. In addition, some UPS or UPS/software combinations provide the following functions: 1) Automatic shutdown of equipment during long power outages. 2) Monitoring and logging of the status of the power supply. 3) Display the Voltage/Current draw of the equipment. 4) Restart equipment after a long power outage. 02.05 Q: How long can equipment on an UPS keep running after the power goes? A: How big an UPS do you have and what kind of equipment does it protect? If you put a clock radio or laptop computer on an UPS rated for 2000 Volt-Amps, you could probably run it for days. For most typical computer workstations, one might have an UPS that was rated to keep the machine alive through a 15 minute power loss. If you need a machine to survive hours without power should probably look at a more powerful power backup solution. 2.06 Q: Given the same vendor claims, how can I tell a "good" quality UPS from a "poor" quality UPS? A: Some properties you might look for are: 1) Sinusoidal power output. In general, the closer the AC output of the UPS is to a sine wave, the better it is for your equipment. There are rumors of UPS units that generate square waves. This is not good. 2) Does the UPS have a manual bypass switch? If the UPS is broken or is being serviced, can you pass power through it to your equipment? The last thing you want is for a broken UPS to be the cause of extra downtime. 3) The more information about an UPS's operation you can get from watching the unit itself, the better. How much power (or percentage load) the equipment is drawing, how much battery life is left and indications of the input power quality are all very useful. 4) Some newer UPS's can communicate with their monitoring software via network connection and SNMP! This is wonderful *if* your network is on an UPS! Also, beware, I have heard of dealers advertising "Network UPS" monitoring where the network is the normal serial connection (no SLIP or PPP). 5) Does the UPS vendor offer support/maintenance contracts. If they don't even offer them, I would suspect the quality of the equipment. 02.06 Q: Should I make sure I have a support/maintenance contract for my UPS systems? A: Some people strongly recommend this, but to be honest, I don't know how important it is. I haven't had any UPS's long enough to have enough of them fail to know what the failure modes are likely to be. Some people, with more experience than I in these matters, insist that an UPS support/maintenance contract is as important as your computer support/maintenance contract. I can't argue with them. In any case, it's almost certainly worth pricing at any rate. 02.06 Q: What sort of maintenance can I perform myself? A: One good thing you might want to do is periodically test the UPS's and their failure modes. A good time to do this might be right after after a periodic level 0 backup. Nobody is logged in and you've got full backups of the machines. Pull the plug on the UPS to simulate and outage and see how the transition goes. Also, as far as I know, UPS batteries are susceptible to "battery memory" problems. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to run the battery down periodically to "erase the memory." Maybe once every year or half year. Note that, depending on the manufacturer, UPS batters can be expected to last between about 1 and 5 years. 02.08 Q: Isn't an UPS just a glorified power strip/surge protector with some batteries and a little power conditioning thrown in? A: Basically. It's also got a power inverter, some other circuitry. It may also have a timer and other gadgets. 03: TOPIC: UPS monitoring/shutdown software. 03.01 Q: If the power is out for a long time, I would like to have my computer automatically shut itself down gracefully before the UPS batteries die. Can I do this? A: Yes. Most UPS manufacturers support software that will do this for some UPS's on at least some platforms. Ask your UPS vendor for details. 03.02 Q: How does it work, I'm a starving (fill in the blank) and I really don't want to pay for software unless I absolutely have to. A: Usually, there is a serial connection running from an UPS into your computer. The UPS sends information along the serial line as it goes. If you can decode which pins contain which information, how the information is formatted and figure out what it wants to hear from the computer side, you're all set. Since UPS units with network based monitoring capabilities are appearing on the market, we can hopefully get something that will communicate with those units. Here is a skeleton script provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com. Definitely check this out as a starting point, but don't expect it to do anything meaningful without some work. ---------start upsd.sh------------- #! /bin/sh # Shut down system in case of extended power failure # This should be the serial port to which the UPS is connected # This port must be set to block on open until the DCD line # is asserted - many UNIX systems have this determined by # the minor device number, if not, see if there is some way # to enable this behavior on your system PORT=/dev/ttya # Ok, this should block until there is a power failure : > $PORT # If we reach this point, we've lost power wall << EOF The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!! EOF # call shutdown (or init or whatever) exec shutdown -----------end-------------------- 03.03 Q: Hmmm... that sounds kinda complicated. Has someone already done this? A: Any solution would almost certainly be vendor specific. However, some brave souls have provided partial functionality for certain vendors' UPS's. I don't know the original source, but I have a copy available for anonymous FTP at navigator.jpl.nasa.gov in the pub/src/upsd directory. I haven't tried it and I don't honestly know if it even works. Note: Different UPS's produce different sorts of signals. Just installing this already built package may require a great deal of work. The cabling can be complicated, etc.. I would be interested in hearing where this software does/doesn't work. 03.04 Q: I can't find monitoring software that will work on my configuration. What should I do? A: Well, it seems you have a few choices: 1) Build your own. See item 03.02. 2) Use something freely distributable. See item 03.03. 3) Lean on your UPS vendor to port to your platform. 4) Try a different vendor that supports your platform. See item 05.01. 04: TOPIC: How big an UPS do I need? 04.01 Q: How are the "sizes" of UPS's determined? A: Typically, an UPS has a VA rating. The VA rating is the maximum number of Volts X Amps it can deliver. The VA rating is not the same as the power drain (in Watts) of the equipment. Computers are notoriously non-resistive. A typical PF (power factor: Watts/VA) for workstations may be as low as 0.6, which means that if you record a drain of 100 Watts, you need an UPS with a VA rating of 167. WARNING: Don't take my word for it. Note: Some UPS's can continue to deliver power if the VA rating is exceeded, they merely can't provide above their VA rating if the power goes. Some can't provide power above their VA rating at all. Some may do something really nasty if you try. In any case, I *strongly* recommend not doing this under *any* circumstances. 04.02 Q: How can I tell what VA rating I need for my equipment? A: First, when possible, get VA rather than wattage ratings. See Q04.01 above. There are a couple of ways: 1) Direct measurement. You can get equipment to measure the current draw of your equipment directly. You may or may not have access to this. If you are part of an organization that has it's own facilities/electrical type people, they're likely to be able to do this. They might help you out if you ask nice. 2) Compare notes. If you know someone with the same setup you're using, ask them what they use and how close they are to the maximum VA rating. 3) Use a chart. Most vendors can help you out for common equipment. If you have an unusual setup, or a mix vendors a lot, you're probably out of luck here. 4) Use the equipment rating. Most pieces of computer equipment have a power rating on some back panel. This number is usually high, as it is necessary for the manufacturer to play it safe or they'll get sued. Note: Method 1 is by far the best, method 2 and 3 are secondary, method 4 is usually overkill, but pretty safe. 04.03 Q: Hmmm... seems like a tough thing to determine. A: Yeah, it can be. It's also very important. If you get an UPS that's too big, then your equipment can survive a longer outage. If you get an UPS that's too small, then you could be in deep trouble. Therefore, I recommend that you be conservative in buying these things, unfortunately, this costs money. 04.04 Q: How about I use one of these UPS thingies for a laser printer? A: Don't *ever* do this. If you ever measured the current draw of a laser printer during startup (and during printing) you'd be stunned at what it pulls. All UPS manufacturers I know of tell you not to do this. 04.05 Q: So, what sorts of UPS sizes do you use on your equipment? A: BIG DISCLAIMER. I disclaim everything about these figures. I may be lying. Don't trust them. Here they are anyway. 400 VA: Sparc 2 with 3 600 MB disks, 1 200 MB disk, 1 exabyte 8200 tape drive, 19" color monitor. 600 VA: HP 750 with 4 1.3 GB disks, internal 4mm tape drive and internal CD-ROM drive, external disk cabinet and 19" color monitor. 05: TOPIC: Specific manufacturer's information. 05.01 Q: What vendors are there and what do they produce? A: Here is a very incomplete list, based only on what I know. Please give me information to expand it. Company: APC, American Power Conversion US Address: 132 Fairgrounds Road P.O. Box 278 West Kingston, RI 02892 FR Address: 4, rue Ste Claire Deville Zac du Mandinet-Batiment Espace LOGNES 77447 MARNE LA VALLEE Cedex 2 FRANCE US & CAN Phone: 1-800-800-4272 Europe Phone: (+33) 1.64.62.59.00 World Wide Phone: (401) 789-5735 Email: none known UPS Products: Smart UPS in sizes up to 2000 VA. You can add battery packs to cover up to 20000 VA. The Smart UPS's do monitoring and can shutdown multiple machines using the PowerChute software. I recommend putting these on computers. Back UPS same as Smart UPS but without the monitoring and multiple machine stuff. I recommend putting these on dumb equipment like network equipment, X Terminals and Macintoshes (sorry, I couldn't resist.) Matrix UPS a modular "fault-tolerant" system. Any module can be "hot-swapped" at any time. Also additional battery modules can be added, again, while the system is running. Includes SNMP support. Software: PowerChute, PowerChute PLUS. They produce it themselves. Supported on: SunOS, HP-UX, SCO, AIX, AT&T UNIX, Interactive UNIX, XENIX, and probably others by now. Contributed by: APC information contributed by Nick Christenson, npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov without consultation with APC. Additional information provided by Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com. I have no affiliation with APC except as a satisfied customer. Company: Best Power Technology, Inc. P.O. Box 280 Necedah, WI 54646-9899 US Phone: 1-800-356-5794 Email: None known UPS Products: FERRUPS: Ferroresonant-Based, Line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 500 VA - 18 KVA. Features: Standard power features, serial line communications, runtime monitoring, logging, automatic shutdown with optional software, user configurable. FORTRESS: Advanced, line-Interactive UPS, sizes from 360 VA - 2 KVA. PATRIOT: Low-Cost Standby Power Systems, 250 VA - 850 VA. Contributed by: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com Company: Data General UPS Products: Data General repackages another vendor's UPS's (from Exide?) with some sort of special cable. They deserve some mention since they provide UPS monitoring software built in to the AViiON (their UN*X boxen) line. It can be managed through sysadm(1M). Contributed by: Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu Other companies: Emerson (also manufactures Liebert equipment) Exide Sola Electric ITT Power System Corp I'd appreciate any information I can get on these. 06: TOPIC: Acknowledgements I would like to thank Charles Rhoades (cwr@zeus.jpl.nasa.gov) for his sage remarks on my draft of this document. I would like to thank Kevin R. Ray (kevin@kray.com) for sending me the freely distributable upsd software. Thanks also to Don Deal (Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu) for a great many valuable suggestions and that great section on the types of UPS units. The following people made valuable suggestions to this document: Scott Pinkerton, spinkert@t4rta-gw.den.mmc.com Morris Galloway Jr., mmgall@presby.edu David E A Wilson, david@cs.uow.edu.au Edward Hartnett, ejh@larry.gsfc.nasa.gov Joe Moss, joe@morton.rain.com Please note that I take full blame for any errors or omissions. -- Nick Christenson npc@minotaur.jpl.nasa.gov
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: changing internal hard disks --- what can go wrong? Date: 10 Feb 1994 19:00:33 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2je08h$1j8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, I am going to have the sys admin guy here change my internal hard disk, which is on its last legs and annoyingly loud. We are going to move everything onto the dept tapes, and just swap disks. Is there something (obvious) that we should be aware of in advance that could go wrong? What would YOU do? Make no assumptions about our competance in matters NeXT-related. Thanks in advance, Sincerely, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca (Eric Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT mouse pinout *revealed*! Date: 10 Feb 1994 19:43:03 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2je2o7$dnf@tribune.usask.ca> Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I need on the NeXT mouse connections. I received a few other requests for the information, so here it is: Pin Function 1 +5v 2 X Encoder Phase A 3 X Encoder Phase B 4 Y Encoder Phase A 5 Y Encoder Phase B 6 Right Button 7 Left Button 8 Ground -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Difference of Binary data format on Intel and Black Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:38:12 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0hKcoYm00iV505n=kr@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2jc3cr$e9f@news.service.uci.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Feb-94 Difference of Binary data f.. by Feng Liu@jedi.eng.uci.ed > I created a binary dat file on NeXT Step 2.1 black, copied it to a > NS/3.2 on Intel, but could not read it, or more exactly, the read out was > wrong. > > Here is the program to create the data. > [..munched...] > > It seems to me NS/I uses different binary format from that of Black NS. > But NS/I uses the same format as DEC under whatever DEC unix system. > Why would NeXT use different binary format on black and Intel? > Is there any way to force the C compiler to choose a certain format? You have run into the fact that different CPU's store binary data differently (depending on the endian-ness of the CPU) if you use the standard unix stream calls to write your data. If you use NXTypedStreams, then your data will be written out in a portable format and will be intelligible on both Black and White hardware. Also take a look at the xdr (3) functions, which are used for NFS and RPC. It's not the compiler's fault, it's simply that you're not using the right methods to output your data. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for fax modem(urgent) Date: 10 Feb 1994 19:47:20 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2je308$8f3@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Feb10.170924.26423@sol.cs.wmich.edu> In article <1994Feb10.170924.26423@sol.cs.wmich.edu> madani@next.cc.wmich.edu (Bardia Madani) writes: > Can anyone recommend a fax modem that i can get for my NeXTstation? > I have heard about Supra Fax Modem 14.4 and i think it is reasonable, > But how about software. I called SupraFax but the sales man didn't know > about any software that i can use. > Does anyone know where i can buy DFax or NXFax? > I have no idea which one is better. I like to Know which one work better. The ZyXEL modems are an excellent offering, we do sell those, however, Black and White Software does not provides resellers with preferencial pricing so your best bet is to call Linda at Black & White...Their phone number is: (802) 496-8500, (802) 486-5112 or email at nxfax@bandw.com Dave -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Message-ID: <CL0y06.2qE@lysis.ch> Sender: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Organization: Lysis Institute of Research, Lausanne Switzerland References: <2jc7jl$nfg@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 19:55:18 GMT > I would seriously consider buying a DEC PC XL if only it had a PCI/EISA bus. > *sigh* > > Dave Holcomb > holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu > dholcomb@microsoft.com Yep, this is the worst thing they made with that machine, just to save a few dollars... lien@lysis.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Subject: PC keyboard on black hardware? Message-ID: <CL0yJo.2rA@lysis.ch> Sender: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Organization: Lysis Institute of Research, Lausanne Switzerland Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 20:07:00 GMT Is it possible to connect another keyboard and mouse to non-adb black hardware? even if I loose some functionalities like power, luminosity and volume.
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT portable Date: 10 Feb 1994 22:24:22 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jec6m$mj4@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Does anyone have any recommendations for an Intel portable that can run NeXTstep? -- Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: miguele@mestrada (Miguel Estrada) Subject: Status of Viper VLB driver Message-ID: <CL122B.564@lotus.com> Sender: news@lotus.com Organization: Lotus Development Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 21:22:58 GMT Does anyone know the status of the Viper VLB driver for NeXTStep Intel? Thanks in advance. Miguel -- I can be reached at: Miguel_Estrada@crd.lotus.com or by NeXTMail at: miguele@lotatg.lotus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: ECESYS blurb from customer Message-ID: <1994Feb10.140832.11108@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <2iukjb$afg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:08:32 GMT In article <2iukjb$afg@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > My previous post got gobbled. Sorry. > > I have no connection with ecesys (apart from the fact that I > just bought one of their machines). I think there is > enough curiosity out there concerning Intel machines that > more people should post their impressions after use. I not > merely configuration woes. > One of our customers in the US just bought a bunch. I played with the machines, and was impressed, they are very nice. Just work. Mark -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: RFD: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <1994Feb10.232817.11584@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> <LOOFBOUR.94Feb10145800@styracosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 23:28:17 GMT > |> This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) concerning the > |> newsgroup comp.sys.next.hardware. I propose to split this > |> newsgroup into comp.sys.next.hardware.{m68k,i386}. I am a regular reader of comp.sys.next.hardwre, and I'm against this proposal for the following reasons: * As another poster noted, ports have been announced for HP PA-RISC and Sun SPARC. Sooner or later, these products will be real. Taking these into account, I object on the grounds that there are existing newsgroups which more than adequately satisfy the needs stated by the proponents, namely: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* comp.sys.hp.hardware comp.sys.sun.hardware In particular, the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* hierarchy usually contains more timely, more accurate, and more useful information than comp.sys.next.hardware for the same "i386" architecture. It makes more sense for NEXTSTEP users/readers to subscribe to existing newsgroups and post OS specific queries to the undoubtably wider and more knowledgeable audiences there. * There is insufficient traffic to warrant the split, particularly for m68k. The m68k architecture is obsolete, and traffic will gradually dwindle as machines are decommissioned. I'd suggest that the m68k readers consider a private mailing list in lieu of a newsgroup. * It's hard enough to get novice readers to post hardware questions in one group, let alone several. Hardware postings often appear in csn.misc, and sometimes in csn.software and csn.advocacy! * If any split is to happen at all (and only once traffic warrants), a more logical split would be by hardware subsystem category, as is currently done in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. For example: comp.sys.next.hardware.cd-rom comp.sys.next.hardware.comm comp.sys.next.hardware.misc comp.sys.next.hardware.networking comp.sys.next.hardware.storage comp.sys.next.hardware.video Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: Anyone know where I can get a UMC/AMI Board? Message-ID: <1994Feb10.234125.11010@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 23:41:25 GMT I'm looking for a 486-66 VLB board.. no cache no chip AMI Bios UMC or AMI chipset none of the local clone dealers have 'em; anyone know of/have any? Thanks Dan fineman@cs.washington.edu ASCII pleeze
From: daj@cmn10.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: driver kit/LKS questions (sort-of) answered Date: 11 Feb 1994 03:18:07 GMT Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University Message-ID: <2jetdf$n6m@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> A couple of days ago, I posted a list of questions about drivers and driver kit. Through a combination of a fortuitous phone call and trial-and-error, I've gleaned the following: 1. I asked whether the main LKS (loadable kernel server) thread can directly access the I/O ports. The answer is YES. If you're doing a bone-simple driver such as the one I did, and you don't need interrupts and such, there's no need to introduce the second level of mach messaging (or locks or whatever) between the LKS thread and the IO thread. 2. The doc says "one driver, one thread," yet when it explains how to make such a driver, it refers to a LKS thread, so there's really "one driver, two threads"! I asked (implicitly) why the extra thread? The answer is that in some circumstances it's convenient to separate the thread that interacts with the user from the thread that interacts with the hardware. But, it appears that the real reason is that NeXT eventually wants to move the LKS layer into user space. So the LKS thread would become the (or a) user thread. Then, "one driver, one thread" would really be the paradigm. 3. I asked if UNIX calls are faster than mach messages. The answer is "maybe." If you're using out-of-line data, than mach messages can be faster. If you're using in-line data, then there seems to be a gut feeling (but not sure) that UNIX calls are faster. 4. I asked if there's a way to access the I/O thread's msg_receive() timeout. There doesn't seem to be. In retrospect, this makes sense. There are all kinds of things coming in on that port, such as interrupt messages, so the time out really doesn't have much meaning. One way to do what I wanted is to just spawn another thread that sits in a msg_receive() waiting on a timeout (or calls IOSleep()) and then sends a message to the I/O thread. 5. By the way, someone asked what the advantage of the Driver Kit is over a simple LKS. The answer seems to be that Driver Kit takes care of "soft" assignment of IO ports and various other user-friendly book- keeping and flexibility features. Of course, if you're doing a driver that is one of the types supported by NeXT (such as sound or display), then you can build on the extensive support already provided. But one nice thing about a pure LKS is that it can be unloaded, which greatly simplifies debugging.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (J. LaPierre) Subject: Re: Anyone know where I can get a UMC/AMI Board? Message-ID: <1994Feb11.043331.8766@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York References: <1994Feb10.234125.11010@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 04:33:31 GMT In <1994Feb10.234125.11010@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fineman@cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) writes: >I'm looking for a > 486-66 VLB board.. > no cache > no chip > AMI Bios > UMC or AMI chipset >none of the local clone dealers have 'em; anyone know of/have any? I got an AMI Enterprise III, no chip, no mem, but with 256k cache from Washburn & Co. in Pittsford, New York. They won't sell 'em brand new w/o a CPU, but I bought a refurbished board for a great price. They are -the- east coast distributor of AMI products. For more info contact Washburn & Co. 3800 Monroe Avenue, Pittsford, NY 14534 General Inquiries: 1-800-836-8026 Motherboard Hotline: 1-800-836-8027 Hope this helps. Let me know if you need any more info. -Jason Jason LaPierre University of Rochester lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep In-Reply-To: holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu's message of 9 Feb 1994 23:23:30 -0400 To: holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Holcomb) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb10105249@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2jc9bi$pke@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:52:47 GMT In article <2jc9bi$pke@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> holcomb@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Holcomb) writes: Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote: : My NeXTstation mono has now reached the age where I seriously consider : a) a Royal Pentium 66 MHz, PCI/EISA tower with 16 MBytes of RAM, 512 : kBytes of cache, a 21" Viewsonic monitor and a 4 MB VRAM Matrox : MGA-II graphics card for $5375. Add to this $2k for a 2.1 GByte : Barracuda SCSI drive, another $1k or so for an additional 32 MBytes : of RAM and $150 for an Adaptec scsi card to use temporarily and the : system adds up to $8.5k. God! I can't believe someone else is looking to buy the same system (almost) I want to buy from the same company! I am looking to get a NeXTSTEP-compatible machine myself, but am afraid the above system won't be fully compatible. I called NeXT about a week and a half ago and they said there was no support yet for the Matrox video cards. (I was asked if I wanted to write the driver!) Then I called Matrox (in Canada) and asked if they were writing drivers for NeXTSTEP and they said they weren't sure they were going to support NeXTSTEP. No, there is no guaranteed support for the Matrox card. If you want a guarantee buy another card. However, writing a DriverKit device driver for a video card looks to be fairly straightforward if you can get the hardware documentation for it. Just about the only thing you need to do is to map the cards VRAM somewhere into memory and tell NS where it starts. If I buy a Matrox card, I will just write such a driver. BTW, the system I priced was almost the same, with 32M RAM, 2GB Seagate SCSI-2 drive (don't know model, but *not* the barracuda), Why not the barracuda ? It is widely agreed upon to be the fastest SCSI disk which money can buy (apart from RAIDs which probably overkill for a machine to be used mainly by a single user) and I've seen e.g. the 2.1 GByte version advertised for $1.6k. 14.4k modem (I think), Matrox MGA-II (3 or 4 MB VRAM), 16550 UART, Get the 4 MByte VRAM if you want to run in MPixel true color resolution. Adaptec SCSI-II controller (don't know which model), Make sure you do get one of the later models. Some 1542 models do not properly support hard disks larger than 1 GByte. 17" Sony monitor (the new one, not the crummy CPD-1730) (BTW this monitor may have been priced with the ViewSonic 17 instead -- I have priced from so many places and some cannot get the new Sony), NEC 3x CD-ROM, and a 3 button serial mouse (Logitech). Price was $6.3k. They swore that no one else would be able to beat it. (Without resorting to cheaper peripherals, this is true so far.) I was hoping the price would be < $6000 (I only want to spend $5-6k for a machine). If Carl or anyone else can verify that this system will run NeXTSTEP without any hitches, please let me know!! I could probably get this system within the week. Sorry, I can't do that though it likely will be a good system once somebody gets around to actually writing the Matrox driver. Unless you think you can do that yourself don't buy this system before a driver has been officially released. As a side question: Is it preferred that NeXTSTEP be installed on a drive by itself? I want to (eventually) run Windows 4.0, NetBSD 1.0, and NeXTSTEP 3.x on the same system. If NeXTSTEP prefers to have an entire drive dedicated to itself, I may want to get a 500M hard drive and two 1GB hard drives instead. No, a separate partition will do just fine. Get a large drive. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: Curious problem with the npd (next printer) daemon Message-ID: <1994Feb10.110813.5012@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 11:08:13 GMT [System : NS/FIP 3.2 - Connected to a local "NS supported" HP Printer and a YP Sun server] : The root user could not print a file and the message below appears in the console window : my_host npd[204]: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd-lpr of my_file - / exited status = 1 Other users could print the same file without problem or message Has anyone already seen that ? Thanks for help... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Re: Compatible mouse for NestStation ? Message-ID: <1994Feb11.021811.583@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com References: <9402101734.AA01305@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 02:18:11 GMT In article <9402101734.AA01305@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) writes: > > We are starting to have problem fixing our NexStations mice. Since > > > the original mouse is hard to get I was wondering if anybody knew > > if they were other mouse (Mac, PC, SUN, AMIGA ...) that will work > > on a Next. > > It should be possible. I once got sick and tired of the Mouse on my > PC (the ball was to light weighted), and rewired and connected a > Next-mouse to the Logitec-Busmouse board. It works ever since (6 > months), i assume, it can be done the other way around, to. > > What you would need, is a 'non intelligent' mouse (so NO serial > mouse). I'd try an ATARI or AMIGA-mouse, since a bus-mouse usually > comes with a card you don't need... > > With a simple DMM you should be able to figure out, what to connect > where. > > Gerd If the station has an ADB mouse/keyboard then an Apple Mac mouse will work. I hooked up an Apple ADB mouse to my station just to see if it would work and it worked fine. -- jerald dawson*Systems Manager / Head Programmer*Investor's Advantage NeXTmail-jerald@mrk.com |"To compel a man to furnish contributions of phone - (708) 487-3221|money for the propogation of opinions which he fax - (708) 526-3635|disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Subject: Help: SCSI woe Message-ID: <1994Feb11.105433.3035@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Organization: U of Cambridge, England Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:54:33 GMT I am trying to attach a 3.5" SCSI MO drive to Black hardware, but whenever the boot block is accessed (by initialisation etc), the Console reports: /usr/etc/disk -i -h coriander.cl.cam.ac.uk -l "UntitledDisk" /dev/rsd1a sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 The disk is reported unusable. There is no /etc/disktab entry (I assume none is needed). Help? ---------------------------------------------------- Dr W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable) Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628. Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
From: wresele@iaik.tu-graz.ac.at (Wolfgang Resele) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: INTEL: Sound cards, DSP, and everything... Date: 11 Feb 1994 12:16:14 +0100 Organization: Technical University of Graz, Austria Message-ID: <2jfpdu$3e9@iaik.tu-graz.ac.at> Hi, following some questions and ideas about NeXTStep + Sound, Speech & Music: Part I - Reality I am considering buying a sound card for my Intel machine. Since I need 16 bit/44kHz quality and want to access it through NeXTStep, WinNT and (not necessarily) Linux (future option - not my choice...), I am not sure which card to buy. PAS seems to be widely supported, but after having heard about troubles using PAS at high sampling rates and together with an Adaptec 1542 controller (which I am currently using...), I am seeking for other possible choices. Now, here are my *burning* questions: 1) Is there any difference between PAS 16 and Pro Studio ? 2) Has anyone any experience with MS Sound System ? I am not very eager to buy something from MS, but in a german magazine the card was rated as high quality (about half a year ago...). It doesn't seem to be widely used, though.. So, what is YOUR experience ? 3) A soundblaster driver was recently announced and released on the net; but it only supports 8 bit simple Soundblaster Pro sound, I think. Is there anybody working on a 16 bit version of such a driver ? Are there any hardware problems ? Couldn't it be easy to modify the 8 bit driver for 16 bits ??? I have absolutely no experience with DriverKit, but I think the main problem (at least for me) is getting Creative's hardware specs.... Any answers ? Part II - Vision and Religion 4) Why does nobody miss the DSP ? In black times NeXT seemed to become the leading platform for sound, music and speech processing. Nowadays even Quadras boast with this *NEW* *REVOLUTIONARY* feature (sigh!). Are there no chances for a sort of driver for additional DSP hardware in Intel machines ? Or are these plans dropped in favour of platform independence ? What about the whole interesting and outstanding stuff (e.g. SPASM) developed for black hardware - no one even mentions it nowadays ? I think it was one of the most important fields, where NeXT really could gather leading developers all around the world, and where NeXT could gain a significant advantage over its competitors... Now simply throwing away this advantage by doing (and saying) nothing ???? Designing a sort of minimal interface/driver for DSP hardware, if possible at all, could gain much importance in future. Maybe an object oriented, message-passing and DSP-independent interface could be interesting: Imagine custom DSP submodules, being a sort of MAB-C-object. They could provide a well defined interface, binary simulation code (in case of absence of any DSP), and different pieces of binary code for each type of supported DSP... These objects could work on any platform, hiding the (non)existence of a DSP to the user... Does this sound too unreasonable and fantastic ? What is your opinion ? Perhaps such a well integrated interface to custom (DSP) hardware could be an additional chance for NeXTStep to show that there is more to OS-design than simply copying and assembling other's ideas and concepts, putting the label 'object oriented' and the name MS on it, and selling it to millions of users, who still think that MS invented windows (now they just have invented preemptive multitasking - WOW!)....Perhaps it even could show to (not yet) NeXTStep users the power of a combination of NeXTStep, Objective-C and MACH.... A more realistic solution to the problem of DSP-support could be at least a task-oriented combination of device driver + all-purpose signal processing library (FFT, FIR, ....) Thanks for any comment Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Resele <wresele@iaik.tu-graz.ac.at> graz.styria.austria.europe.earth.solarsystem.milkyway.universe.everything... "I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say things. More I cannot say. " (the old man in the shack (who rules the universe...))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: vince@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Vince Waldon) Subject: Re: ADAPTEC 2842 References: <2jbegdINNrcb@hagen.amg.de> Organization: V.A.L.I.S. Public Access Linux, Edmonton, Canada (403)478-1281 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 06:02:15 GMT Message-ID: <1994Feb11.060215.21843@valis.ampr.ab.ca> In <2jbegdINNrcb@hagen.amg.de> Uwe Hunzelmann writes: >Has anyone experience with that VLB-Card. >Does it run with the ususal 1542 Next-Step Driver I know for sure it DOESN'T work, 'cause I gots one. I've talked to Adaptec... they assure me there's no way to get it to work (it has no 'standard' i.e. 1542-compatable mode, unlike the EISA version). I've queryed NeXT, Adaptec, and the net looking for a driver and have not had any luck... it's a great adapter but I'm going to have to shelve it for now. Vince -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vince Waldon vince@valis.ampr.ab.ca Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA "NeXT, I hope to get it working" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Difference of Binary data format on Intel and Black Date: 11 Feb 1994 13:47:43 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <2jfupf$4nu@gyda.ifi.uio.no> References: <2jc3cr$e9f@news.service.uci.edu> Is this a C specific question (not concerning NextStep) ? Generaly binary files generated by C isn't portable accros platforms/C-appl. due to diferent/nonstandarized storage structures ? Try formatted storage (ascii). Arne Haarseth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: ECESYS blurb from customer Message-ID: <1994Feb11.082347.14979@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <2j6ijr$kh9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 08:23:47 GMT In article <2j6ijr$kh9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > Hi, > > there is a UK reseller, but I don't have the > information. Anyone? > > RKD Jackie Mackay, mackay@cognito.demon.co.uk had a relationship with them, but I haven't heard from her for a little. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: Elonex NextStations? Message-ID: <1994Feb11.082545.15035@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <2j8h36$10r@marble.Britain.EU.net> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 08:25:45 GMT In article <2j8h36$10r@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk writes: > > Has anybody seen/tried out one of the Elonex NextStations running NS/I? > Impressions would be welcome. > > C. Impressions are that they work, and they're quite cheap. They have had massive backing and support from NeXT UK to make the boxes work (certainly more than any other local manufacturer/reseller/supplier), so you really shouldn't see any problems. I've spent extended amounts of time with some, liked them, and would buy them again. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: emstech@improv.music.mcgill.ca Subject: HD over heating Message-ID: <1994Feb11.135527.4399@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 13:55:27 GMT Three of our Next HD a VERY noisy and extremely hot. I am afraid they are close to their end, it looks like a bearing problem. I didn't get any data problem yet, but I don't want to wait longer. I have been told that if I open the drives I may as well say goodbye to them. So I should send them for repair, but they are 200 to 400 Mb Quantum ProDrive. I am not sure it wort spending money on them. If anybody has experience with drive repair could you tell me where I can buy parts for hard disk ? If I open the drive to replace the bearings, will it still work after ? Or maybe one of you knows a good place to send those drive for repair. Thanks, Alain Terriault Mcgill University, Music Faculty emstech@music.mcgill.ca
From: jmazo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New system buying: need advice Date: 11 Feb 1994 16:19:08 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <2jgb5s$qd7@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2j7san$et@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Having started this thread, and continuing watching it, I have also not forgotten to call around to different companies. I got an interesting surprise: when I called ALR, they for some reason said that I would be better off using the VESA VL-bus or EISA instead of PCI, claiming PCI is unproven, and I may not need it anyway, or I should wait for at least a year more before getting a PCI machine so that the "technology matures". I am starting to think that maybe a combination PCI-EISA system would be a good answer to such a question. Even better a VLbus/PCI/EISA system (is there such a thing?) Do you think this idea has any merit? Or something else behind it? Furthermore, the configuration I referred to in my original post would be used as a starting point, so that when memory prices drop and HD prices decrease, I could add more (much more) of both (probably 16 additional Mb RAM and a 1Gb fast SCSI drive). Jacob.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Disk Partitioning Lore: DOS+NT+NS works Message-ID: <1994Feb11.172241.1135@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1994Feb10.023347.27250@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 17:22:41 GMT In article <1994Feb10.023347.27250@adobe.com> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: > Here's some firsthand lore for the FAQ. Please folks, Email me such entries, don't assume I'll catch them in the groups. Thanks. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca (Eric Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT laser printer cable -- nanoseconds to extend? Date: 11 Feb 1994 18:07:25 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jghgt$gln@tribune.usask.ca> Again, I'm requesting information that I saw once on this net and forgot to save. I have a NeXT laser printer that I'd like to move some distance from its NeXTstation. I seem to recall reading that this was possible if you made the cable some particular length (electrically). So, how many nanoseconds does a cable have to provide? Thanks, -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: good NEXTSTEP machine for under $3500 ? Date: 11 Feb 1994 19:12:45 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jglbd$gih@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Could someone recommend a good NEXTSTEP developer machine for around $3000 ? It doesn't have to be the fastest machine in the world; it just has to work. Thanks! Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: don@object.demon.co.uk (Donald Brady) Subject: Re: Elonex NextStations? Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:59:57 +0000 Message-ID: <9402120259.AA01394@object.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk In comp.sys.next.hardware article <1994Feb11.082545.15035@xexos.com> you wrote: > In article <2j8h36$10r@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk writes: > > > > Has anybody seen/tried out one of the Elonex NextStations running NS/I? > > Impressions would be welcome. > > > > C. > > Impressions are that they work, and they're quite cheap. They have had massive > backing and support from NeXT UK to make the boxes work (certainly more than > any other local manufacturer/reseller/supplier), so you really shouldn't see > any problems. I've spent extended amounts of time with some, liked them, and > would buy them again. > > -- > Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 > Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 > London >mark@xexos.com I aggree, the boxes are good, but not the support. Firstly they shipped my company the wrong box. Then they shipped a box with NeXTSTEP 1/4 installed (they said it not me). Even after this fiasco the box still had the wrong ethernet connector from the type specified on the purchase order. Also, if you phone up for NeXTSTEP support the girl at reception says "NeXT? I'll put you through to Networking"!!! All in all, good hardware but in my experience CRAP after sales support and service. Regards, Donald Brady ------------ Object Innovation Ltd. | Tel.: +44 41 332 1360 18 Marfield St. | e-mail: don@object.demon.co.uk Glasgow | NeXTMail welcome G62 6EX | Scotland |
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ECESYS blurb from customer Date: 11 Feb 1994 14:17:54 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402112019.AA23173@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > > Folks at eCesys are extremely honest, NS savvy, and what > > is more, answer the mail and phones. Try them if you're > > in the market for an NS box. > > I'm not affiliated, just a customer. > > > > Robert de Lucca > > The Johns Hopkins University > > > > I'm interested to hear your inpressions. Do you know if these guys > sell their kit outside the US (ie., the UK)? > Yes, contact Jackie Mackay... Jackie Mackay <mackay@cognito.demon.co.uk> 24 Torbay Road London NW6 7DY vox1 071 328 2501 vox2 071 625 6327 fax 071 325 7555 Have fun, mmalcolm. --- SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Elonex NextStations? Date: 11 Feb 1994 14:54:42 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402112055.AA23229@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > Has anybody seen/tried out one of the Elonex NextStations running > NS/I? > Yup -- I saw a 66MHz (sixty-six) Pentium c/w Miro card last November: very impressive. In addition I've seen other Elonexes (Eloneces?! :-) running both in their factory and most recently at the UK-NEXTSTEP-User Group meeting on Wednesday 9th (which is why it's taken me so long to reply to your questions!). I believe Elonex suffered a bad name for a while, which I am given to understand was probably rightly deserved :-( . They seem to have pulled their socks up to around the navel-level now, and are very keen to do the "right thing" by NEXTSTEP. [The "main man" Demetre Cheras <Demetre_Cheras@elonex.demon.co.uk> is particularly enthusiastic and it's a joy to watch him play with his new toy, freed from the clutches of Microsoft. :-) The smug expression on his face after it took 3 minutes to add a sound card to a machine we used for the NUG meeting and I asked how long it would take under Windoze was priceless! ] My impression is that they're now entirely solid machines, well supported, and at a good price (the March (March??!!) edition of Personal Computer World lists an entry-level machine with 17" screen, 16 MB RAM, 270 MB h/d and User edition of NEXTSTEP as costing 2775 pounds... not bad at all! If memory serves me correctly, the machines I've seen thus far (with the exception mentioned above) all use the #9 graphics card, so it's quite nippy too. They also have "interesting" plans for new machines in the future... [reality check -- but doesn't everybody...] Anybody interested can contact: Elonex PLC 2 Apsley Way LONDON NW2 7LF Vox: 081 452 2444 Fax: 081 452 7444 and you might try (?): Paul Armitage Trimac Technology Limited Sheffield Science Park Arundel Street Sheffield S1 2NS. Vox: 0742 724127 Fax: 0742 720379 Email: Paul Armitage <parmit@uk.co.demon.trimac> I hope this helps, Have fun, mmalcolm --- SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: nlau@sct.edu (Neric Lau) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP NEEDED ON RESEARCH Message-ID: <2jh27h$2bov@st6000.sct.edu> Date: 11 Feb 94 22:52:33 GMT Organization: Southern College of Technology, Atlanta I am writing a research paper on why Next computer fail on the workstation market. anyone outthere can send me the information about the good and bad thingon NeXT. Please send the information to nlau@st6000.sct.edu Neric Lau
From: cosc176t@menudo.uh.edu (Jason Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black laser printer Date: 11 Feb 1994 22:48:09 GMT Organization: /posole/cosc176t/.organization Message-ID: <COSC176T.94Feb11164809@menudo.uh.edu> Greets! I'm the happy owner of an aging NLP. What can I do in terms of maintenance to extend the life of my favorite printer? Thanks! -- Jason Asbahr 116 E. Edgebrook #603 Animatrix Houston, Texas 77034 Consulting and Development (713) 946-2732 voice NeXT / Newton / Virtual Reality asbahr@uh.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stuart_hamlyn@pts.mot.com (Stuart Hamlyn) Subject: PCMCIAII modems on NeXTStep Versa Message-ID: <CL2G26.5MM@pts.mot.com> Keywords: help, versa, nextstep Sender: news@pts.mot.com Organization: Motorola Inc, Paging Products Group, Boynton Beach, FL Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 15:22:53 GMT Fellow NeXT Freaks, Has anyone used the PCMCIAII slots on their laptops with the Megahertz modem. Do I need any special drivers? I'm trying to get them to run on the Versa. I tried making the serial ports writable, etc... Is COM2 basically cufb, or cub??? ------------------------------------------------------------ Stuart Hamlyn Motorola Inc. Applied Research MS 71 1500 N.W. 22nd Avenue Boynton Beach, FL 33426-8292
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next (HPLJ4-NeXT) Date: 12 Feb 1994 01:16:14 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2jhaku$q86@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> <2j5us1$3vh@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes: >In article <dgursky.760558137@news.andi.org> dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) writes: >>rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) writes: >> >>>I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a >>>laserjet 4m. >> >You don't need any special driver for HPLJ 4/4M driven via serial/parallel port. >If you are talking about the PPD file for the printer (pls, don't call a PPD >file a driver), standard Release 3.2 already includes it on the CDROM. The file >will end up in /NextLibrary/PrinterTypes/English.lproj/. I recently hooked a NeXTStation running 3.2 up to a 4M with *no* problems. (via serial line). I just followed the pinout instructions in NeXTANSWERS, and chose the 4M driver from PrintManager. The only thing we had to do was to turn off RTS/CTS flow control on the printer and simply go back to XON/XOFF. It took about 10 minutes of futsing to make it work, and now we have an lpd server on the printer (the NeXTStation)... BTW, this printer is also talking out its parallel port to a Novell server, and out the LocalTalk to a Mac network. -- David Lemson (217) 244-1205 University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc From: ka@socrates.hr.att.com (Kenneth Almquist) Subject: Re: The ideal hardware for NeXTstep Message-ID: <CL39oH.Iqu@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T References: <CEDMAN.94Feb5190313@capitalist.princeton.edu> <CEDMAN.94Feb10105249@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 02:02:41 GMT > Why not the barracuda ? It doesn't have mounting holes in the standard spots. Seagate says this is not a problem because you aren't supposed to use the Barracuda drives in standard cases anyway--the drives re- quire more airflow (for cooling) than most cases provide. Kenneth Almquist
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NeXT printer and envelopes. Date: 12 Feb 1994 03:18:38 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2jhe9u$f4t@alf.uib.no> References: <2j1d9i$hcr@alf.uib.no> <HZSLBE7I@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In article <HZSLBE7I@gwdu03.gwdg.de>, Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> wrote: >Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: >> Thanks for all the suggestions. The basic consensus is that the >> NeXT printer does not handle envelopes well... > >Sorry, that's not true. There are apps, that handle envelopes >well like Poste or InTouch or the like. Just because some people >have found a kludge, and you didn't manage to find a better way, >doesn't say there is no solution. > Once more - the _NeXTprinter_ (not apps, not NeXTStep, but the HARDWARE itself) does not handle envelopes well. I have received enough e-mail to verify this. However, I have been trying to feed the envelopes in top first, not sideways as you suggest - that may indeed work, and when I find a way to make some app print rotated text (to match a rotated envelope :-) I'll try it. > >p.s. why didn't you once try one of these ps files from InTouch >or Poste? You could have analyzed them, and perhaps you would >have found a real solution. I don't know exactly what's going on, >but perhaps it's just the boundingbox in the ps file (the paper type >is still a4.), as I didn't find anything else in the file, and I >don't have the time to try all possibilities. Again, this addresses printing 90% rotated PS - I shall look at it when I get the time, but it does not help the NP to pull an envelope all the way through. Putting the envelope in sideways might. >p.p.s. please don't be too upset, but I don't like this kind of >postings. You had other info, but you didn't use it, you rather >posted info, that's wrong :-( Would be terrible if some normal I'm not upset - I'm posting _my_ experience + what I have been told and advised by _many_ other users, only one of which was yourself (who has better experience with NeXTprinter than most :-) >user of a NL reads your article, and really thinks, that's the only >way to print envelopes. Sometimes NeXT hardware is strange, but their >h/w s/w engineers were not lunatic. I love my NeXT - even if the cube is dead! >p.p.p.s. No, I did not write Poste, nor do I have any personal >interest in it. I use it three to four times a year, but that's it. >And remember, I did *not* say, you should use/buy/... Poste, >I wanted you to try, what's the contents of a ps file, that prints >correctly on an envelope. I'll try it. Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NeXT printer and envelopes. Date: 12 Feb 1994 02:57:31 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <2jhgir$59e@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <2j1d9i$hcr@alf.uib.no> <HZSLBE7I@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <2jhe9u$f4t@alf.uib.no> In article <2jhe9u$f4t@alf.uib.no>, Thor Legvold <edmtl@alf.uib.no> wrote: >feed the envelopes in top first, not sideways as you suggest - >that may indeed work [...] >told and advised by _many_ other users, only one of which was >yourself (who has better experience with NeXTprinter than most :-) Hmm, I've printed many envelopes using my NeXT LaserPrinter without incident. I feed it length wise. At work, we have envelope feeders and they all feed length wise, never top first. Use an app such as Poste or MindOverMail. Here's another one who has had great experience with using the NeXT 400dpi LaserPrinter printing envelopes. Ken -- Kenneth K.F. Lui, klui@corp.hp.com 3000 Hanover Street M/S 20BJ Corporate Financial Systems Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA Core Application Technologies 1.415.857.3230 Fax 1.415.852.8026
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: seh@world.std.com (Stephen E Halpin) Subject: Re: DEC-XL PCI PC Message-ID: <CL3DBn.A5y@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1994Feb9.055325.24776@mail.vitech.fi> <2jan6d$bt9@inxs.concert.net> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 03:21:22 GMT In article <2jan6d$bt9@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com writes: >In article <1994Feb9.055325.24776@mail.vitech.fi> t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani >Miettinen) writes: > >> >> So, are you using Viper and onboard NCR SCSI2.....or S3 and Adaptec? >> I suppose all XL models will be certified as they practically are the same >> machines, right? (except Alpha-CPU models) >> >> -Jani Miettinen > >Right now, there is no support for the NCR on-board SCSI2 so we are using the >Adaptec/Viper solution. The XL has no been offically certified, however NeXT >won't be releasing the Viper driver for about two weeks (we are working with >the final BETA and are shipping the XL without the driver) Ive been out of touch with NeXTstep for a while, but Im curious, will NeXTstep be able to use the Vipers rendering engine, or is this another frame buffer driver? Also, will the on-board SCSI interface be supported in the near future? >The Alpha version of the XL is not due until they get the daughtcard finished >Q2/Q3 of this year. > >The new DG box is supposed to be identical to the DEC (probably a little faster >because DG seems to optimize all of their systems for NeXTSTEP before they're >shipped, however, it will not be Alpha-upgradable. > >Dave > >Dave >-- >Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] >A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] >NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com >NeXTmail Warmly Accepted >******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** > Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation -Steve
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP Notebook Computers Date: 12 Feb 1994 04:43:43 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jhmpv$63l@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Keywords: NEXTSTEP Notebook Computers ====================================================================== / _____/ _ / | / \ / / / / | Fine Portable NEXTSTEP / \ / / ___/ | Products __/ __/ _____/ __/roducts | ====================================================================== NSProducts introduces the NextBook VLB Portable NEXTSTEP Notebooks ====================================================================== NSProducts introduces today the first line of its NEXTSTEP Notebooks - The NextBook VLB ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Since the advent of the Intel version of NEXTSTEP, many people have been looking forward to see a notebook machine powerful enough to allow them to use NEXTSTEP at the office, at home or on the road. NSProducts is proud to announce that the first of its NEXTSTEP Notebooks are now available: a full range of models from low cost 33MHz monochrome up to high-end 66MHz active matrix models - all suitable as workstations. Based on the same model as the Intelligent Notebook Systems VESABook series, these Notebooks come with the NEXTSTEP operating system preinstalled: you will have your machine ready to run out of the box, with the proper drivers installed from a company that is firmly committed to NEXTSTEP. Since our agreement with NeXT does not allow us to sell the academic version, please notice that academic users must purchase NEXTSTEP through their campus reseller first. They may then send us their serial number and we will ship the notebook with the academic version preinstalled. Also, purchase of the computer without any software installed will be allowed for those who have already purchased NEXTSTEP and want to install it themselves. The NextBook VLB Series ----------------------- The NextBook VLB series is ideal for its price/performance ratio. They feature 32-bit local bus with accelerated graphics, keyboard port, mouse port, external video port able to provide full color SVGA, serial ports, parallel port and 2 PCMCIA Type II/1 Type III slot(s). The NextBook VLB comes standard with a removable 340MB hard disk and 16MB DRAM upgradeable to 20MB, while we offer you the possibility to chose 33Mhz or 66Mhz processors as well as monochrome, dual-scan or active matrix color, so you can pick the best one for your needs. VIDEO With 512Kb VRAM accelerated local bus graphics, you can get up to 1024x768x16 resolution on an external monitor when drivers become available. For those who want superior graphics performance now, the NextBook VLB can be connected to a docking station that provides 2 VLB slots and 2 ISA slots. The VLB slots allow high speed graphics at up to 1600x1200 resolution and 24-bit color with the appropriate graphics card. This full feature docking station replicates all of the ports found on the NextBook, includes stereo speakers, a 3.5 inch bay, a 5.25 inch bay, and a SCSI-2 port. Under normal use, its NiCad battery can last more than 2.5 hours, that is a quite nice amount of time for this class of portable workstation. It features a nice wristrest area and a 16mm trackball. And, yes, it has Enhanced Parallel Ports. Weight is a little over 6 pounds. This machine and its docking station are shipping now. 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NextBooks --------- monochrome 33DX 340/16 no software $2,800 dual scan 33DX 340/16 no software 3,375 active color 33DX 340/16 no software 4,250 Upgrades, OS, and Peripherals ----------------------------- 66DX2 instead of 33DX processor $225 Additional 4MB RAM 300 NS/i 3.2 User preinstalled 575 NS/i 3.2 Developer preinstalled 1,450 Requires User Software Installation for those who already own NS 50 Docking Station 450 Car Power Adapter 75 NiCAD Battery Pack 100 Graphics Cards Price Resolution --------------- ----- ----------- Number 9 Level 11 2MB $390 1280x1024x256 1024x768x65k 800x600x16m Number 9 Level 12 3MB 450 1280x1024x256 1024x768x65k 800x600x16m Number 9 Level 14 4MB 680 1600x1200x256 1152x900x65k 1024x768x16m Matrox MGA IMP 3V 3MB 950 1280x1024x256 1152x900x65k 1024x768x16m Matrox MGA IMP 3VH 3MB 1,050 same as the 3V above plus 1600x1200x256 Matrox MGA Pro 4V 4.5MB 1,250 1280x1024x16m Other Charges -------------- Massachusetts Residents only - 5% sales tax Visa and Mastercard purchases - 5% processing fee US Shipping for each notebook $50 US Shipping for each dock 25 International shipping for each notebook 125 International shipping for each dock 50 1 year warranty on parts and labor. Undamaged items may be returned within 15 days for refund. A 10% restocking fee will be charged for returned items. FEBRUARY TRIAL SPECIAL. Customers may purchase Nextbooks now and try them for the rest of the month, if not satisfied they may return all purchased goods before March 1st for a full refund. Send orders by postal mail to: Send orders by E-Mail to: NSProducts nsp@world.std.com PO Box 9183, #211 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA =================================================================== / _____/ _ / | / \ / / / / | Fine Portable NEXTSTEP / \ / / ___/ | Products __/ __/ _____/ __/roducts | =================================================================== For more information send questions to nsp@world.std.com ===================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: gomez@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (JL Gomez) Subject: Will it work? Message-ID: <CL2wEy.1B7@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 21:16:09 GMT I'm looking to uet NextStep 3.2 to run on my hardware: -Opti-495SLC 3/486 MB with 128K write-back cache -Cyrix 386DLC40 with 387 math co-processor -BusLogic BT-545S SCSI controller -Cirrus Logic 5428 VLB video -Viewsonic 15E monitor -Philips/LMS CM214 SCSI CD-ROM drive -Tandberg 3600 SCSI tape drive -Logitech Bus Mouse -16MB RAM The above configuration works fine under OS/2 2.1 and Linux. May I return NS 3.2 if it doesn't work? Thanks for the info! -- gomez@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: NeXT printer and envelopes. Message-ID: <CL3HJ8.Exx@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington References: <2jhgir$59e@hpscit.sc.hp.com> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 04:52:20 GMT Another data point: I have printed many, many envelopes in my NeXT laser printer: I've used Poste, InTouch, WriteNow, and a nifty perl script name of "envelope" (courtesy of Andy Rabagliati, Dave Buck and Todd Merriman). I've only had two problems: 1, an occasional failure of the envelope to feed in (giving a "paper jammed" message); 2, sometimes a full sheet from the tray will be printed instead of the envelope. I always use manual feed, and put the envelope in with the long axis parallel to the paper path. For WriteNow, I set the paper size to about 1 inch taller than the envelope, in "Landscape" mode, since the printer won't print less than 1/4 inch from the edge of the page (software issue). -------------- <-- Virtual page (from Page Layout - "Landscape" mode) |____________| | | <-- Actual envelope size | | |____________| | | -------------- Perhaps (I hesitate to suggest this) there is something mechanically wrong with your printer, or is it that you are trying to print envelopes in "Portrait" mode? I usually do put a _small_ slip of paper between the flap and the envelope, just to keep the darn thing from getting sealed. -- Will Fischer wfischer@indiana.edu (Grad Student) Department of Biology "So much time, and so little to do! Indiana University Wait. Strike that. Reverse it. Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA Thank you." -- Willy Wonka
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jonathan Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What happened to Screen Machine II? Does it exist? Date: 10 Feb 1994 14:08:20 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2je47k$k7v@cobber.cord.edu> I've been browsing through some old Nugget News Digest mailings (I really miss it and Conrad Geiger) and I came across the Screen Machine II from d'ART Computersysteme GmbH. It is a multimedia board for live video and real-time video digitizing. The mailing (Oct 26, 1993) said that it was available on intel then. Anyone seen this? Does it have any support from NeXT? Maybe it is NEXTIME compatible :). Maybe someone can direct me to more info. Thanks a Million. -Jon -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fineman@grizzly.cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: Has anyone run a #9GXE on an SIS chipset? Message-ID: <1994Feb12.061855.24105@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 06:18:55 GMT hey all- I'm considering going up to VLB (!color!!), and i'll be getting a #9GXE vid card. A local place sells the VLB board with an SIS chipset; has anyone used this configuration with success?
From: hdwoernd@faui06p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - who is wrong ? Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:53:41 +0100 Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <2jdhpl$3gl@faui06p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> cip.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes: > German 'iX' magazine testet the Gecko in their latest issue. The credo was qui te >positive, except for the OS (wait 'till NS comes :-}), they reported the price for >a 19 " Monitor > 1 GB HD > 32 MB RAM Machine to be about 33,000 DM >The display is quite expensive, but even with $ 5000 for a 19" Screen, what is >this talking about a new low-cost RISC machine? >Or am I, again, living in the wrong country. (I could tell You stories about >german pricing :~(( ) The answer isn't such easy. I was in contact to the authors of the article, beca use I wondered about the prices, and some mistakes in the text. One of them was, that nobody told us, why the gecko is cheap. The answer is, tha t is has no On-Processor Cache. There's only an external one on the mainboard. s o HP can sell cheap machines, but it's very expensive to expand the computer, be cause of the very fast RAMs used in the Gecko. The price of the entry-version is around 8900DM without taxes. 64 MBytes of RAM cost over twice the price of the CPU, about $ 8000 (!). it might be cheaper, if you don't buy it at HP. Servus, Harald ======================================================== Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler Uni-Erlangen cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
From: hdwoernd@faui06p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Which Soundcard works? Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:56:05 +0100 Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <2jdhu5$3hi@faui06p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Summary: I want to buy me a CHEAP soundcard for NS Keywords: Sound Hi! I am using NSfIP 3.1 on that hardware: ISA/VLB 486/66 ADAPTEC 1542C ISA + SCSI-HD ATI ultra pro 2MB VLB 16 MByte of RAM IO-Card (2s1p1g) Which soundcard can I buy, plug-in, install and use without getting problems? It also has to be very cheap, too. Is it only a dream, or does it exist? Thanks, Harald ======================================================== Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler Uni-Erlangen cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: msb@its.com (Michael S. Barthelemy) Subject: Re: Optimal HD Sector Sizes Message-ID: <1994Feb11.220656.5949@its.com> Sender: usenet@its.com Organization: Information Technology Solutions References: <ohKMP3O00iV94ARl1_@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 22:06:56 GMT Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Feb-94 Optimal HD Sector > Sizes by "James Gaines"@psilink.c > > The problem is that after using BUILDDISK, I only had 877MB available > > to the system and NeXTStep perceived the disk to be a 1008MB drive. > > The disappointment comes from 370MB loss (1247 to 877). BTW, I am not > > using this drive as a boot disk. Can anyone tell me how I could get > > better MB value from the HD? Is this 30% loss normal? > > This loss is normal, as there is some overhead for the filesystem and an > additional 10% reserve for speed reasons. 877MB is exactly the amount > of space I have left on my Micropolis 2210 drive. Normally, you could > reformat the drive with larger sectors, but the servo mechanism used in > this drive won't permit that. One could also run tunefs on the unmounted filesystem which can make quite a difference on larger drives. As root with the disk unmounted type: tunefs -m 2 -o space /dev/rsd?? That should give you a substantial amount of the reserved space back into user space. I would only do this if you're praticularrly short of space. The man page for tunefs explains better what happens. Typically I have found that much less space can be generated by changing the format sector size, the cylinder group size and the inodes per cylinder group. To change those values you have to mess with /etc/disktab and do quite a bit of work yourself. Also under NEXTSTEP Intel if it is not the boot device and you never want to use it as such you can format it without worrying about all of the sectors being BIOS accessible which gives you a little more space as well. Mike Barthelemy NEXTSTEP Developer msb@its.com
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will it work? Date: 12 Feb 1994 10:20:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2jiagm$cuh@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CL2wEy.1B7@ennews.eas.asu.edu> In article <CL2wEy.1B7@ennews.eas.asu.edu> gomez@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (JL Gomez) writes: > I'm looking to uet NextStep 3.2 to run on my hardware: > -Cyrix 386DLC40 with 387 math co-processor Nope. Not with that processor. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Using BusLogic 747S with ATI Ultra Pro? Message-ID: <westesCL3CqK.Ix6@netcom.com> Organization: Mail Group Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 03:08:44 GMT Is anyone using an a BusLogic 747S EISA SCSI card in the same system with an ATI Ultra Pro VLB card? Some users have reported to me strange, erratic disk problems when running these two cards in adjacent slots. I didn't pay much attention to it, but recently we had a disk problem where the disk lost its low-level format information and started reporting bad blocks. It turns out that the ATI is slot 3 and the BusLogic is slot 2. If anyone has experienced problems with these two cards running together in a particular configuration please post. -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED ON RESEARCH Date: 12 Feb 1994 15:48:29 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jitod$gan@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2jh27h$2bov@st6000.sct.edu> In article <2jh27h$2bov@st6000.sct.edu>, nlau@sct.edu (Neric Lau) writes: |> I am writing a research paper on why Next computer fail on the workstation |> market. anyone outthere can send me the information about the good and bad thingon NeXT. |> Please send the information to nlau@st6000.sct.edu |> |> Neric Lau One first must ask if they failed...they certainly stoped making hardware...but they are still in business. I think its a case of capitilising on their strengths. One posible answer is to ask what is the work station market? It is not like the PC market, where price is everything. just my thoughts john.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stefanos@cs.concordia.ca (KIAKAS stefanos) Subject: Need advice on a 125 M-O drive. Message-ID: <CL4LtL.EHI@newsflash.concordia.ca> Sender: usenet@newsflash.concordia.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:22:33 GMT Hello all, I'm looking for a 125 M-O drive to attach to my 25MHz mono NeXTstation running NS2.1. I was wondering how easy it would be to connect it to my machine, what problems I might encounter, etc. Is is possible to use it as a boot device if my hard disk crashes? Any advice or recommendations would be appreciated. Thanx, stef
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What happened to Screen Machine II? Does it exist? Date: 12 Feb 1994 21:29:47 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: na Message-ID: <2jjhob$hqv@umd5.umd.edu> References: <2je47k$k7v@cobber.cord.edu> In article <2je47k$k7v@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jonathan Doroin) writes: > >I've been browsing through some old Nugget News Digest mailings (I really >miss it and Conrad Geiger) and I came across the Screen Machine II >from d'ART Computersysteme GmbH. It is a multimedia board for live video >and real-time video digitizing. The mailing (Oct 26, 1993) said that it was >available on intel then. Anyone seen this? Does it have any support from >NeXT? Maybe it is NEXTIME compatible :). Maybe someone can direct me to >more info. > Yes, it does exist. We have had one here for several months. However, the original software distribution did not come with the software for doing real time digitizing of movies; apparently, that had to be purchased separately. It worked fine for taking still shots of live video, though. After upgrading to 3.2, I reinstalled the Screen Machine II software and had problems with it. I called Alembic Systems, who are the official distributors for this product I believe, and was told that there was a software upgrade that they would send me. So, yes, it does exist, and it is supported. I don't know about NEXTTIME support, as I've been unable to get my hands on a copy of NEXTTIME thus far. Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Elonex NextStations? Message-ID: <1994Feb12.210531.544@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <9402120259.AA01394@object.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 21:05:31 GMT In article <9402120259.AA01394@object.demon.co.uk> don@object.demon.co.uk (Donald Brady) writes: > I aggree, the boxes are good, but not the support. > > Firstly they shipped my company the wrong box. Then they shipped a > box with NeXTSTEP 1/4 installed (they said it not me). Even after > this fiasco the box still had the wrong ethernet connector from the > type specified on the purchase order. > > Also, if you phone up for NeXTSTEP support the girl at reception says > "NeXT? I'll put you through to Networking"!!! > > All in all, good hardware but in my experience CRAP after sales > support and service. Seems different from my experiences. The people I have dealt with have been *very* well informed about NeXTSTEP; they also seem commited to producing a well tuned NeXTSTEP system at the lowest possible cost. I was asked to contact Aneela directly (Sales Manager) for NeXTSTEP sales queries; she has been helpful with rapid responses. Their prebuilt NeXTSTEP systems that I have seen have had few problems, and they have been quick to respond to service requests. Paul (not even a customer of Elonex) -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next From: Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> Subject: How to access 2. NSI Partition ?? Message-ID: <CL4trH.8B@rkt.in-berlin.de> Sender: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski) Organization: Home in Berlin Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 22:14:05 GMT Hi *, i would like to make a filesystem on a second NeXTSTEP 3.2 partition. This is the fdisk-output: Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 150 - NEXTSTEP 150 700 Active Extended DOS 850 80 - NEXTSTEP 930 84 - <- 2. Part. When i now try "disk -l Part_2 -i /dev/rsd0b" [or c,d,e] i get: /dev/rsd0b: No such device or address What am i doing wrong ?? Is NSI unable to handle more as one partition ?? Thanx Rene -- ____________________________________________________________________ Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> NeXTMail accepted. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> NeXTMail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Will it work? Message-ID: <1994Feb13.033334.14878@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2jiagm$cuh@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 03:33:34 GMT In article <2jiagm$cuh@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: > In article <CL2wEy.1B7@ennews.eas.asu.edu> gomez@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (JL > Gomez) writes: > > I'm looking to uet NextStep 3.2 to run on my hardware: > > > -Cyrix 386DLC40 with 387 math co-processor > > Nope. Not with that processor. Archive-name: NEXTSTEP-Intel-General-FAQ Subject: C15. Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the Cyrix 486SLC? [NeXT states:] No. The Cyrix chip not a true 486. [several other users state:] Yes. Slow performance, though. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch (E. Baranzini) Subject: Experiences with CD-Recorder on a NeXTstation? Message-ID: <1994Feb13.062856.273@muscat.pr.net.ch> Keywords: CD-Recorder Sender: ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 06:28:56 GMT I consulted FAQ and archives searching about experiences with CD-Recorder drives on a NeXTstation (25 MHz), but without success. I intend to buy a Yamaha CDR-100 (it seems to be a good recorder) and drive it eventually with the PD "mkisofs" software from ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/cdrom or with a Yamaha software. Any experiences, tips, cautions, ideas? I will summarize, if something interesting will come in. I thank You in advance. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Erminio BARANZINI, Seilerstrasse 25, CH-3011 Berne, Switzerland ebaranz@muscat.pr.net.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.os2.setup,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom Subject: Plextor/Texel DM3028 CD-ROM Date: 13 Feb 1994 21:25:16 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Distribution: world Message-ID: <BWH.94Feb13162516@beach.cis.ufl.edu> I am about to be thinking of purchasing the Texel/Plextor DM3028 CD-ROM drives. I will be using this drives for my IBM PC computer 486. I am to be wishing that it is compatible with the NextSTEP, OS/2 2.1, and DOS. I am not knowing which SCSI adapter to be using. I wish for good SCSI such as DMA SCSI and bus master SCSI. Are you to be having recommendations? I am thinking the Adaptec 1542C or DPT 20?? for my good SCSI controlling. Thank you very much, Sandranajananapor Patel (please reply to my friend's account Brian bwh@cis.ufl.edu) -- -------------- Brian Hook "In computer graphics, if it looks good bwh@cis.ufl.edu it IS good." -- Michael Abrash
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ace@acelab.ruhr.de (Andreas Fatum) Subject: 1742 and 32MB ??? Organization: acelab - an internet bbs - +49-2368-56585 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 22:54:56 GMT Message-ID: <1994Feb13.225456.1893@acelab.ruhr.de> I have an Intel 486DX2-66 EISA/VLB Board with an Adaptec 1742, ELSA Winner 1000 VL (2 MB) and 32MB RAM and I'm planning to buy NeXTStep 3.2 for it. I'm unsure about two questions though: 1) Is the ELSA Winner 1000 on the supported hardware list? I.e. can it be used in any hi-res color mode? (1024x768 or 1280x1024) 2) Is the Adaptec 1742 supported running in enhanced mode? (Needed because of the 32MB RAM and DMA)? If not, what about the 16MB the DMA-Controller can't handle directly? I don't want to use any slow double buffering. Thanks in advance, Andreas -- Andreas Fatum ace@acelab.ruhr.de (Internet) postmaster@re.open.de (City-Router) Student of CS, ace@acelab.ruhr.sub.org (SubNet) University of Dortmund ..!uunet!germany.EU.net!acelab!ace (UUCP/Bang!)
From: kay@nagasena.tynet.sub.org (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Naked Gecko Date: 13 Feb 1994 10:04:04 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Sender: kay@nagasena (Kay Schulz) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jktuk$1gm@nagasena.muc.de> Hi I heard from a bird saying that it is possible to get a Geckjo naked, this means without monitor, Ram and Harddisk. These things from third party vendors are much cheaper. Is there someone from HP reading this and saying yes, you can? How about the price then? How about the educational pricing? Normally HP gives 30% for Universities and students. Can someone agree or disagree, say names or emails where to get this info? -- Kay Schulz kay@nagasena.muc.de NeXTmail accepted
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.os2.setup Subject: Tape backup recommendations (NS/fip+OS/2) Date: 14 Feb 1994 01:50:05 GMT Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jmlcd$4bm@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> I am about to replace my CMS 125MB QIC (3 floppy cable type) backup device with something that is better supported. I would prefer not to spend a lot of money, no more than about 300, for something that can backup to tape selected directories etc. Larger capacity, at least 250MB, is important. The problem is that this backup device needs to be usable under OS/2 2.x, DOS, and NextStep/fip. Could someone give me some recommendations? If I have to I may go as high as 800 dollars for a SCSI DAT or 8mm system, but only if NECESSARY. Choice of SCSI adapter is up in the air, but will probably be an Adaptec, BusLogic, or DPT of some type. The system will, in all likelihood, be an EISA/VLB system. Thanks, Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: b_brottier@icare.fdn.org (Bruno Brottier) Subject: looking for DoveFax Message-ID: <1994Feb10.104945.502@icare.fdn.org> Sender: news@icare.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Levallois, France. Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 10:49:45 GMT Hi there, For the second time, I am looking for DoveFax with NeXT cable. I don't care of power supply, because here in France we use 220V and not 110V, so, I've got mine. I would like you to send it to one of my friend in the US, pay COD, and he will send it back to me in France. Please make me an resonnable offer, around $50 Thanx, Cheers BB --------------------------- Bruno Brottier 37 rue Chaptal 92300 LEVALLOIS PERRET - FRANCE E-mail: b_brottier@icare.fdn.org -- [NeXTmail] ---------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: Problems printing envelopes with NeXT printer. Message-ID: <1994Feb11.090824.11338@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <BOOLB5WD@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 09:08:24 GMT In article <BOOLB5WD@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: > Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: > > I just bought a NeXT printer (thanks Sam!), and am trying it out today. > > I cannot seem to get envelopes to print. I am using standard A4 > > business envelopes (measure 22cm by 11cm). Yes, I've read the manual. > > And the FAQ. And NeXT Answers. > > > I've tried setting paper size to both LTR and A4 without any luck. > > I have (so far) tried manual feed - Are you sure to feed the enveloppe in the right way? I must be fed as 'landscape' (ie with its long side paralel to the direction of moving) to ensure it is long enough to go from a tracting roll to the next one (11cm is not enough, 22 cm is enough). Second I think you are getting confused by the international paper sizes: standard A4 does *not* measure 22cm by 11cm, it does 21cm by 29.7cm. 22cm by 11cm enveloppes are the correct ones to send A4 paper folded in 3, but they are not A4 themselves. Therefore you must set the paper size manually to 11cm by 22cm (*not* 22cm by 11cm) and choose landscape orientation. By the way let me remind you the origin and interest of A4 standard to help you finding your way into other A standard format: A0 is one square meter in surface with a lenght/width ratio of square root of 2. This ensure to keep the same lenght/width ratio when you cut it into two. Therefore A0 is 118.92cm by 84.09cm. A1 is A0 cut into 2. Therefore 84.09cm by 59.46cm with a weight per sheet equal to exactly half of the weight of a A0 sheet, wich is the major interest of this standard, as the "strenght of a given paper is given in g per square meter (80g / m2 for normal printer paper) then 40g for A1 and common 80g / m2 paper. A2 is A1 cut into 2. Therefore 59.46cm by 42.04cm and 20g for common 80g / m2 paper. A3 is A2 cut into 2. Therefore 42.04cm by 29.73cm and 10g for 80g / m2 paper. A4 is A3 cut into 2. Therefore 29.73cm by 21.02cm and 5g for 80g / m2 paper. This is very useful to estimate the weight of a letter to determine what price of stamp to put on it: a letter of 3 pages (3 sheets) weights precisely 3 * 5g = 15g for common paper (this is much more precise than any domestic weighing scale) plus the weight of the enveloppe, which is approximatively the same than a sheet of paper ie 5g. Then 3 sheets + enveloppe = 20g. A5 is A4 cut into 2. Therefore 21.02cm by 14.87cm and 2.5g for 80g / m2 paper. There is also a Bn standard format which I wonder what it is, Perhaps it is the format of envelopes to put An format in? Does any body know about it? Hope that this can be of interest to you. Serge
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: anyone use US Robotic FAXModem successful ? Message-ID: <1994Feb12.225657.13317@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <CKB7EK.F7I@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 22:56:57 GMT In article <CKB7EK.F7I@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: > It seems that no-one supports Class I modems on NeXTSTEP as everyone is > switching to Class II. Class is not to be confused with Group. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I know that group is related to the compression algorithme but what is the class related to? By the way do you know if the compression is done by the modem or by the driver? I mean, does the group depend only on the modem or on the driver or both? Best group is (as far as I know) group 4. Does any fax modem do it? How many classes are they? Which is the best one? Thanks in advance Serge
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Notebook Computers Date: 14 Feb 1994 09:51:48 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jnhjk$cl6@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <2jhmpv$63l@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2jhmpv$63l@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: > ====================================================================== > > NSProducts introduces today the first line of its NEXTSTEP Notebooks - > The NextBook VLB > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [description deleted for brevity] This notebook is made in Taiwan and is available under generic name "notebook 8200" through several US resellers, including Cypress, Sager and INSI. I bought mine through Cypress because they knew how to install NextStep. (The INSI salespeople told me they tried NS but couldn't make it work; Sager salesman never heard of NS). The notebook I have works just fine, both in the dock and on the road, and I like it very much. However, consider the following before buying: 1) The SCSI controller build into the docking station is no good for NextStep. If you are planning on installing/upgrading NS youself, get a supported SCSI card (I use Adaptec 1542 C). 2) At present, there is no NS driver for the on-board video, or for any color video with less then 4096 colors, so don't waste your money on the color LCD screen. 3) The notebook's trackball is mediocre at best. Also, it acts as a serial mouse in the COM2 port rather than COM1, so it does not work with config=Default. There is a workaround, but beware of the problem. 4) You can put a VLB video card in the docking station (I use ATI GUP) and it works with external monitor just like a desktop PC, but you need to tinker (manually) with the /usr/Devices/System.config/*.table files to make sure that the notebook works both in and out of the dock. (The Configure.app only handles one configuration at a time, and you really do need to specify the video). 5) At present, there are no NS PCMCIA drivers, so you would need an external modem. 6) With this notebook, you can get an external 128k cache -- less than a good desktop, but more than any other notebook I know of. If you are going to buy a DX2/66, get the cache too, it speeds things up quite a bit. To summarize, this is a pretty good notebook with minor faults. If you want a NS-capable notebook that can also serve as a desktop, this is the best you can by at the moment. ********************************************************************** Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | #include <std_disclaimer.h> Assistant Professor of Physics, | University of Texas at Austin. | My English isn't THAT bad, vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu | but my typing stinks:-(.
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR SCSI driver (PCI) Message-ID: <7036@darmstadt.gmd.de> Date: 12 Feb 94 16:40:22 GMT Sender: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de Organization: German National Research Centre for Information Technology I recently sent mail to <info@talus.com>, because I wanted to find out about the availability of the NCR SCSI driver being written there. (the developer posted about this several times). I didn't get any reply so far - does anybody here know about the current status/estimated prize/availability ? I really need this driver ASAP, und buying another controller when there's one on the motherboard is really too silly.. Thanks for any information, Holger (soon-to-be NeXT convert :-) -- /// Holger 'Holgi' Hoffstaette, aka: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de /// German National Research Centre for Information Technology \\\/// Integrated Publishing & Information Systems Institute / PaVE \XX/ 'I'm gonna get myself connected..' - Stereo MC's
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: root@nextone.niehs.nih.gov (Operator) Subject: Fujitsu M2654S and NS3.2 Message-ID: <1994Feb14.151215.21314@alw.nih.gov> Keywords: disk FUJI format Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster) Organization: National Institutes of Health Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:12:15 GMT Q1: Anyone have a correct disktab (5) entry for a FUJI M2654 disk, with a blocksize of 1024? I used Rory Bolts "formatter" program to reformat at 1024b blocks with no problems. Afterward however, builddisk fails with the new auto-generated disktab entry: BuildDisk: Starting build at Mon Feb 14 09:45:16 1994... disk name: FUJITSU M2654S-1024 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 2138636 47 21 8192 1024 32 10 60 4096 t seek error: 2138635 wtfs: Error 0 /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) Q2: Also, is there a manual way to specify the root partition for a bootable disk? I get the following additional label info for my current disk, but not for the external disk I want to make bootable... %disk /dev/rsd0a {bunch o stuff omitted} root partition: a read/write partition: b Q3: Does nextstep 3.2 Builddisk have an adjustable blocksize, and formatting capability built in? Thanks a bunch. Howard Smith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: c347a04@hawk.depaul.edu (Eric James Carlino) Subject: Re: anyone use US Robotic FAXModem successful ? References: <CKB7EK.F7I@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <1994Feb12.225657.13317@rdbois.uucp> Sender: news@hal.depaul.edu (News Admin) Organization: DePaul University, Chicago Il. Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:04:43 GMT Message-ID: <1994Feb14.160443.21113@hal.depaul.edu> Distribution: usa Presently, there are three GROUPS that have been developed in fax history. Groups 1 & 2 used an analog technology to transmist the image. Finally, with Group 3, faxes became digital. The advantages are obvious. There are also two CLASSES of fax. The difference is where the "work" gets done. With Class 1 faxes, the fax board is relatively "stupid" and the software / driver has to do all of the work, as far as packaging the image to be sent. With Class 2, the fax is able to do much more of the work. This places less of a burden on the CPU, and makes developing software for faxes much simpler. Hope that's helpful. Contact me if you have further questions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ahess@deneb.math.ualberta.ca (Andy Hess) Subject: NeXT color printers Message-ID: <1994Feb14.174757.25711@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Keywords: printer color Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 17:47:57 GMT I am thinking of purchasing a NeXT COLOR PRINTER but have never seen how good they work. I am wondering if anyone could post their experiences with the color printer: ie: output quality, price of cartridges, reliability etc. Mail to ahess@deneb.math.ualberta.ca would also be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 14 Feb 1994 14:45:33 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2jokct$gqf@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) Subject: Looking for a SONY Color NeXT monitor Message-ID: <1994Feb14.202332.5090@ictv.com> Sender: usenet@ictv.com Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200 Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 20:23:32 GMT I'm looking to buy a 17" SONY Color NeXT monitor. I don't want to pay more than $1300, since the new 17" sony 17SE1 is only about $1200. Robert -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK 660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problems printing envelopes with NeXT printer. Date: 14 Feb 1994 23:54:00 +0100 Organization: University of Bergen Message-ID: <2jove8$7va@alf.uib.no> References: <BOOLB5WD@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <1994Feb11.090824.11338@rdbois.uucp> yes - it works when envelopes are put in right way. No - I did not say envelope was A4 itself - of course not! It is standard envelope for A4 paper size (business folded). Regards, -- Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known... University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors Norway | edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Date: 14 Feb 1994 23:12:47 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <CL744r.5A0@nosloc.com> In article <CL744r.5A0@nosloc.com>, Derek Collison <derek@nosloc.com> wrote: >I have used SoftPC under black hardware. I was not pleased. Could I have >some comments on SoftPC running under NS/FIP? What is the performance like? >How are the graphics? > Any information is appreciated. > >=derek I too have been wondering about SoftPC. Why haven't we seen more traffic in the Next newsgroups about it since the release of 3.2. I'm surpised. In particular, I expected more posts of the form, "Has anyone gotten software such and such to work under SoftPC? I had the following problem..." Am I just being ignorant. Does EVERYTHING "just work" ? I thought there were Windows apps. that wouldn't even run under NT. Everyone--what are the apps. that you most want to run under SoftPC that you haven't been able to, or that you haven't been able to run in the way that you want to. (Silly example, can you play Lunatic Fringe under After Dark under SoftPC even though it is a screen saver? Have you been frustrated by cut and paste, or particularly frustrated by any of the things Insignia admits to not supporting with SoftPC?) What are the other all-around impressions? The poster above mentioned graphics and performance.... ??? Are you really frustrated by not having a video card that supports SoftPC in full-screen mode? (I noticed this is a big thing in the hardware compatibility list.) Is there any reason to ever boot real DOS/Windows again? -Karl
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Date: 14 Feb 1994 23:17:17 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2jp0pt$iob@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <demarest.760786427@rerf.or.jp> In article <demarest.760786427@rerf.or.jp>, Timothy Demarest <demarest@rerf.or.jp> wrote: >I just installed installed NS/I 3.2 on a *very* >generic PC. All went well until the very final reboot >after copying all of the files from the CDROM to the >IDE drive. > >I have drive 0 set up as a master IDE drive with DOS >on it. I set up a 345 Mb IDE drive as drive 1 and made >it a slave. I installed NS on the second drive. When I boot >without the floppy it goes into DOS. If I want NS I boot >from the floppy and type hd(1,a)mach_kernel and it starts to boot >NS, except that it tries to fsck on hd0a!!! > >I know this sounds boneheaded, but can NS coexist with 2 IDE >drives and be on the slave drive? Or does NS have to be on >the master disk? > >Anyone running a similar set up? > I had a similiar problem with a SCSI disk that was the second disk on that controller. As long as the first IDE drive has the Nextstep boot program on it, it should be okay to use the second drive. Look at /etc/fstab It probably has a line that starts off with /dev/hd0a .... You might want to consider changing it to /dev/hd1a. You'll probably have to boot single user, (re)mount the disk manually to make this change. No warranties implied.... -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Message-ID: <2jp3sh$8k2@inxs.concert.net> Date: 15 Feb 94 00:09:53 GMT References: <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > I too have been wondering about SoftPC. Why haven't we seen more traffic > in the Next newsgroups about it since the release of 3.2. I'm surpised. > SoftPC is plaqued by lack of advertised capability...on a 60Mhz DEC Pentium we find that we get only (at best) low-end 386 speed, however, we also understand that Insignia is developing a newer version to be called SoftWindows which hopefully will provide the claimed performance that SoftPC should have had. Additionally, I will note that Insignia didn't seem very interested in contacting us about 5,000 seats of their product for one of our customers...haven't heard from them AT ALL. Must be busy with their emulation technology for Windows NT? Dave -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: Tape backup recommendations (NS/fip+OS/2) Message-ID: <1994Feb15.002147.16553@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <2jmlcd$4bm@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 00:21:47 GMT In article <2jmlcd$4bm@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: >The problem is that this backup device needs to be usable under OS/2 2.x, >DOS, and NextStep/fip. Could someone give me some recommendations? If I >have to I may go as high as 800 dollars for a SCSI DAT or 8mm system, but >only if NECESSARY. I have the same question, only I don't need OS/2 compatability. Specifically, does anyone know if the WangTek (or WangDAT) 2.0 Gig DAT drive will work with NS/FIP and DOS/Windows? There's a local store selling factory refurbs for $495 (internal, regularly priced $995), which is a great deal if the drive will work with my operating systems! Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Phone# for PC Connection, or NeXT modem cable? Date: 15 Feb 1994 01:10:35 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jp7eb$42c@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi. I need either the phone number for PC Connection (1-800 etc) or a NeXT modem cable. Thanks for your responses! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher -- cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu Mills College Oakland, CA USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Subject: SpecInt, SpecFP, MFLOPS for Pentium machines? Message-ID: <CL95KD.DL5@nosloc.com> Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 06:19:25 GMT Does anyone have the numbers for the above? I am mostly interested in these numbers for comparison to the Gecko. I also believe they may have already been posted. If so I apologize for the bandwidth. Thanks in advance.... =derek -- Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com Nosloc Software Technologies NeXTSTEP Consulting and Software Design
From: jon@perca.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Date: 15 Feb 1994 08:09:01 -0500 Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <2jqhhd$3u6@perca.umd.edu> References: <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > I too have been wondering about SoftPC. Why haven't we seen more traffic > in the Next newsgroups about it since the release of 3.2. I'm surpised. If you have a Rev 3 ATI video board you're out of luck, since full-screen mode just doesn't work. I tried a lot of variations on how to go about using it to get it to work reliably and had it lock up more often than not, usually taking the window server or the pointer with it. Startup time is over a minute on a 486/66 with 32 MB. Performance varies greatly, sometimes feeling like a 486DX/33, more often like a 386SX/25. The biggest problem I experienced was when I left SoftPC running (even if I froze it) it slowed things down so much I felt like I had 16 MB under 3.1 again. At the moment you're still WAY better off with a $300 386 clone and a VGA switch to share your big monitor. Maybe this will change with SoftWindows, but SoftPC feels VERY beta right now, much like NS 3.1 did. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Kruger - jon@cbl.umd.edu - Computer and Network Systems Coordinator UMCEES/CBL, PO Box 38, Solomons, MD 20688 Phone: 410-326-7306 Fax: 410-326-7361
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Message-ID: <CL9Ayt.ELL@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CL744r.5A0@nosloc.com> <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 08:16:05 GMT In article <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: [ ] >Is there any reason to ever boot real DOS/Windows again? Of course. For one thing SoftPC can only deal with Windows in standard mode which leaves a lot to be desired. Previous versions of SoftPC have been a minor letdown for me, as the graphics' refresh ( on black NeXT's, Mac's, workstations, etc...) and the driver support were simply not there. One has to be patient when dealing with NS. Drivers don't appear before their time, you're in an off-beat world, etc...Nice but not for those who want to walk into a superstore and buy things. OS/2 has similar problems. Drivers, drivers, drivers,...Why on earth is the SB16 not yet supported, or the Hercules Dynamite Pro ( based on the ET4000win32i) which is reasonably inexpensive and is a good graphics' card. Instead all I see is ATI and Video 7 and S3 unnamed cards. People will not pay $500 for a video card and the SB series is the most popular on the planet. NS is nice, but I guess it will be (for me) like OS/2. I will simply wait for the drivers. I assume they will show up, but in the meantime Windows does most of what I need. The problem is that it would be nice to stay within NS as it's such a nice system. However colour is enticing and after 24 megs, a VL graphics' card, etc...and still no colour, well... PS: For those who think one should jump when ATI comes out with something, I simply have to tell them to jump. Overpriced and underwhelming. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Adding RAM to Gateway 2000 Message-ID: <CKy7o3.7ps@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2j6ave$980@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 08:31:15 GMT In article <2j6ave$980@agate.berkeley.edu> markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer) writes: >Hi all, > >I'm planning on adding another 16 megs to my Gateway system (16 megs installed) >This would bring me up to 28 megs (I'd have to take out a 4M SIMM). I recall >some discussion of Gateways not recognizing memory above 16M in NS. Am I >in trouble or is there some way around this (posibbly nonexistant) problem? Interesting...I had one 16meg simm in a similar setup and added 4 megs and the computer slowed to a crawl in NS. I do have a SCSI CD-ROM with an Adaptec 1542CF. Perhaps that ISA issue and memory is coming back to haunt us. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Memory on an ISA system (16meg boundary?) Message-ID: <CL38Co.KLM@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 01:34:00 GMT I have a PC (VL+ISA) with 16megs of RAM. I put in 4 more and the system crawled to snail's pace in NS ( but fster in Windows). I have a VL bus Hercules Dynamite Pro, VL IDE/Floppy/serial/parallel, PAS 16 and Adaptec 1542 which only runs a CD-ROM. The hard drives are all IDE, and the system is still slow if I remove the 1542CF and PAS16 drivers from NS. Does NS have a 16meg limit on ISA systems, or some kind of problem with the SCSI card even being in the system? Any ideas would be much appreciated. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE Message-ID: <CKy7Dx.7KC@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CEDMAN.94Feb2180936@capitalist.princeton.edu> <CKrJzK.3KF@utstat.toronto.edu> <2j3t0h$1hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 08:25:09 GMT In article <2j3t0h$1hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: [ ] > >If you are pleased with the low IDE performance - stick to your IDE drives. >Me, I'd never want to miss my SCSI devices and haven't had any problems >(except with an old SyQuest drive which behaved badly on the bus), neither >with Adaptecs nor with DPT. >But in the first place, I cannot see how one can use NeXTSTEP seriously >and does not care for a suitable backup media. -The VL IDE performance is not slow. In fact the limiting factor is more the hard drive. -Everyone works differently. If I want to back up to tape I let someone else worry about it. It's just a pain, and I haven't the patience. In any case I don't agree with your statement. I do work seriously with NS, and I do not have a tape drive. I suspect the issue is user vs. programmer. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: >16megs on VL/ISA ? Message-ID: <CKy5pG.6pp@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 07:48:51 GMT I have been using NS3.2 on a VL/ISA system with IDE HD's and a SCSI CD-ROM, which is controlled by a 1542CF (often disabled). The sytem has a VL ET4000w32i graphics' board with 2 megs memory ( Hercules Dynamite Pro). I just added a 4 meg 72pin simm to the system and everything is recognized, but NS has slowed to a crawl! So I removed the memory ( back to 16megs) and the speed is back to normal.Is there a restriction on the amount of memory that NS will use with VL/ISA systems? I thought 20 megs would help! It hurt...Note that I have no SCSI hard drives. The system remained slow even with the SCSI card disabled via the config.app. Any help would be appreciated...Thank's. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matthias Rosenberger Subject: Re: ByteBenchmark test result. Message-ID: <1994Feb15.171556.18916@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <1994Feb8.230010.9310@mrk.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 17:15:56 GMT In article <1994Feb8.230010.9310@mrk.com> jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) writes: > This is the ByteBenchmark run on our Micron Pentium with 32 meg memory and 1.2 > GIG seagate drive on an Adaptec ISA SCSI controller. The low disk scores are > the fault of the ISA controller I am sure. These benchmarks where run from the > terminal app. if the Window Server being active would taint the results, let > me know and I'll run them again without (didn't think about that till just > now). Anyways, hope this helps. > > BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) > System -- bill_the_cat > Start Benchmark Run: Mon Feb 7 14:23:49 PST 1994 > 2 interactive users. (lots of numbers removed) So, what do these numbers tell us??? What OS version you did use, what caches, how do the programs fit into the caches, what compiler options, which compiler, how was the load of the machine, is double precision on pentium the same as on 486, how is memory and bus performance involved, how do additional different parallel tasks (e.g. on servers) influence the benchmark test ....? How do the benchmark task compare to what you are doing every day? How do they reflect yor needs? Actually, I noticed great differences between benchmark numbers and the real differences in execution time on different hardware platforms. For my purpose, the differences between different hardware and OSs were less compared to what the benchmarks told me (SSBA suite on DEC-Mips, DEC-Alpha, SUN, Silicon Graphics, Nextstation) . E.g. for floating point it strongly depends on your need of special functions like cos, sin, log ..., and your special mixture of basic calculations, the floating point units strengths and weaknesses for different functions, how the tasks fit in cache, compiler optimization, compiler implementation for the special hardware, and so on. There are so many parameters that I recommend to compare different hardware by means of what you are really using every day. Thus, what's good for one may be of no importance to another. Further, you have to know more about what you actually are measuring with that benchmark program, and what your needs are and how they relate to the benchmark. Of course, benchmark tests give you a rough estimate what you can expect on different systems, but it's really a very rough one, and you have to know very well how to read the numbers. -- Matthias Rosenberger, Walter Schottky Institut, TU Muenchen email: matthias@macnet.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de (NeXTmail wellcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: stylus for NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Feb15.141216.996@earlham.edu> From: alberjo@earlham.edu Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 14:13:20 -500 Organization: Earlham College Keywords: stylus howdy-- I'am trying to do a project on signature recignition and would like to find a stylus for the NeXT ( if they exsist ). I do not have an ADB board and would like to be able to run the stylus with the mouse interface driver allready in exsistence. If you have one that could work on standard NeXT or know of where I could inquire please let post. thanks, Joshua Albertson alberjo@yang.earlham.edu
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 030 to 040 upgrade Date: 15 Feb 1994 14:55:16 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <2jrgc4$156@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> I am selling someone my 040 board to upgrade their machine. I have the two ribbon cables that are used to connect the cpu board to scsi and optical disk. Did either of these two cables change between the 030 and 040? It seems like the optical disk connection stayed the same, but the scsi went to scsi 2 on the cpu board so they sent you scsi 1 to scsi 2 connector? Is this right? I need to know, because I'm selling my optical drive separately and the person who buys that might not have an optical drive connection cable and so I'd like to sell them the correct cable. -nick
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does NeXT CDROM drive work on Macs??? Date: 15 Feb 1994 16:46:21 -0600 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2jrjbt$f4u@tamsun.tamu.edu> Does the NeXT (black) CDROM drive work on Macintoshes, and if so, which ones?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: stylus for NeXT? Message-ID: <1994Feb15.225039.1179@news.media.mit.edu> Keywords: stylus Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1994Feb15.141216.996@earlham.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 22:50:39 GMT In article <1994Feb15.141216.996@earlham.edu> alberjo@earlham.edu writes: >>howdy-- >> I'am trying to do a project on signature recignition and would like to >>find a stylus for the NeXT ( if they exsist ). I do not have an ADB board >>and would like to be able to run the stylus with the mouse interface >>driver allready in exsistence. If you have one that could work on >>standard NeXT or know of where I could inquire please let post. >> thanks, >> Joshua Albertson >> alberjo@yang.earlham.edu >> I've been using my serial port Wacom tablet (12"x12", electrostatic) for years now. The nicest thing is that you get to keep your mouse; i.e. you can use both the mouse and the pressure sensitive stylus at the same time. Takes about 30 seconds to get used to, and then it's cool. See /NextAdmin/InstallTablet.app and the release notes as to how to set up your tablet. There's also a demo app called UnderPressure which shows it off. Virtuoso 1.0 and Create 2.0 both support pressure sensitive input, and it's pretty easy to code into your own stuff. As for cables, I use the standard Wacom/Mac serial cable and it works fine. I never found another one that works, so it's worth paying the $25 (or whatever it is) for the "official" Wacom cable, if only to avoid the hassles. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: alexk@informix.com (Alexander Koerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.laptops Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.2 on NEC Versa: need HD info... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 15 Feb 1994 23:04:35 GMT Organization: Informix Software, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jrke3$9ld@infmx.informix.com> Hi, I am looking for an additional HD > 200 MB in order to install NeXTSTEP on it. There is for sure the option to get a drive directly from NEC, but this option is quite expensive. I also would use an external SCSI disk, if either a PCMCIA SCSI card or a parallel SCSI adaptor would be supported by NS 3.2... Are there any other sources for removable NEC Versa HDs besides NEC??? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I heard that they (NEC) are using either Seagate and/or Conner drives... Greetings & thanks in advance, Alexander Email: alexk@informix.com
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Serial port on a '40 cube Message-ID: <139141@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 16 Feb 94 01:47:37 GMT Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology I'm running a '40 cube with System Release 2.1 O/S, I have a connection to a PC via the serial port (ttya). I have the following line in my /etc/ttys: ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.38400" unknown on secure and in /etc/gettytab: x|std.38400|38400-baud:\ :sp#38400:p8:ap: everything works fine... except I would like to get a higher than 38400 baud rate. I've tried making a 'std.57600' entry like I did my 38400 entry, but when I try to use this it kicks it down to 300 baud. Is there a way I can boost it up (I would like 115200 baud), do I need NS 3.1, a new driver, or what?? Thanks, -- David W Rinker Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202 Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Subject: Gateway P5-66? Any comments Message-ID: <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 00:08:16 GMT I am looking at getting some new hardware. I was wondering if anyone had any comments on the new P5-66 Pentium machine from Gateway? Any information appreciated. Thanks, =derek -- Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com Nosloc Software Technologies NeXTSTEP Consulting and Software Design
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments Message-ID: <2js3bo$3l3@inxs.concert.net> Date: 16 Feb 94 03:19:20 GMT References: <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) writes: > > I am looking at getting some new hardware. I was wondering if anyone had > any comments on the new P5-66 Pentium machine from Gateway? > Yes...buy Digital! Dave -- Advanced Business Systems (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXT Object Channel Membership Pending info@absystems.com NeXTmail Warmly Accepted ******A proud Authorized Reseller for: Data General, Digital and Intel****** Specializing in NeXTSTEP Systems Integration and Office Automation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque Subject: Re: >16megs on VL/ISA ? Message-ID: <1994Feb15.211905.3043@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <CKy5pG.6pp@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:19:05 GMT In article <CKy5pG.6pp@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > I have been using NS3.2 on a VL/ISA system with IDE HD's and a SCSI CD-ROM, > which is controlled by a 1542CF (often disabled). The sytem has a VL ET4000w32i > graphics' board with 2 megs memory ( Hercules Dynamite Pro). I just added > a 4 meg 72pin simm to the system and everything is recognized, but NS has > slowed to a crawl! So I removed the memory ( back to 16megs) and the speed is > back to normal.Is there a restriction on the amount of memory that NS will > use with VL/ISA systems? I thought 20 megs would help! It hurt...Note that I > have no SCSI hard drives. The system remained slow even with the SCSI card > disabled via the config.app. > > Any help would be appreciated...Thank's. > > > -- > Philip McDunnough > University of Toronto > philip@utstat.toronto.edu > [Where sheep may safely graze...] I have had the same problem with my NEXTSTEP system. It seems to be related to "No cache for memory over 16 Mb". Setting this option off in the Bios setup cures the problems even though you never actually reach the 16 Mb performance. Anything else ? Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org "The question is : Will Dallas make it to a third Superbowl"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Message-ID: <1994Feb15.212212.3112@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <2jqhhd$3u6@perca.umd.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:22:12 GMT In article <2jqhhd$3u6@perca.umd.edu> jon@perca.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger) writes: > In article <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl > Robert Pfleger) writes: > > > I too have been wondering about SoftPC. Why haven't we seen more traffic > > in the Next newsgroups about it since the release of 3.2. I'm surpised. > > If you have a Rev 3 ATI video board you're out of luck, since > full-screen mode just doesn't work. I tried a lot of variations on > how to go about using it to get it to work reliably and had it lock up > more often than not, usually taking the window server or the pointer > with it. > Works fine with my VLB ATI Rev 3 in Full Screen mode. Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org "The question is : Will Dallas make it to a third Superbowl"
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial port on a '40 cube Date: 16 Feb 94 07:21:07 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <jeffo.761383267@uiuc.edu> References: <139141@hydra.gatech.EDU> David W. Rinker writes: > I'm running a '40 cube with System Release 2.1 O/S, I have a connection >to a PC via the serial port (ttya). I have the following line in my >/etc/ttys: [...] >Is there a way I can boost it up (I would like 115200 baud), do I need >NS 3.1, a new driver, or what?? I don't know if TTYDSP would work here, but it sounds like just what you need. Basically, it's an add-on for your DSP port turning it into one super high-speed serial port (which could handle speeds far beyond what the '040 black hardware can do). [I highlight the 'one' just to draw your attention to it, in the case that you need more than one serial port you should check the FAQ for details on working multi-port serial solutions. In fact, I believe the address for Yrrid (makers of TTYDSP) are in that same FAQ in the same section (which I don't have handy, else I'd quote it here)] -- *NO* NeXTmail please
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Floppy diskettes not being detected. Date: 15 Feb 1994 16:54:03 -0700 Organization: Keflavik Message-ID: <2jrnar$19t@keflavik.wordperfect.com> I'm having troubles with my Compaq 5/66M. It will no longer recognize that a floppy diskette is in the drive. If I choose Disk...Check for Disks, the floppy light comes on for a while, but the diskette is not mounted. Has anyone else experienced this, or does anyone have any idea what might be wrong? Thanks in advance, Grettir -- "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." - Mark Twain
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Gregg Le Blanc@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chem-Eng Student) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.2 on NEC Versa: need HD info... References: <2jrke3$9ld@infmx.informix.com> Message-ID: <CLB9EM.Jv7@festival.ed.ac.uk> Sender: embu71@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chem-Eng Student) Organization: Edinburgh University Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 09:37:33 GMT In article <2jrke3$9ld@infmx.informix.com>, alexk@informix.com (Alexander Koerner) writes: |> Are there any other sources for removable NEC Versa HDs besides NEC??? |> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |> I heard that they (NEC) are using either Seagate and/or Conner drives... Hi there! Well, you're correct, they do use Seagate and Conner drives. The drives are just normal 2.5" drive, they've just fiddled with the interface (their special removable tray thingy). I would suspect though that their BIOS only supports certain types of drives, thus if there is no user definable option, you might have a problem. I would say that if you could find the same drive that they offer from a normal shop, you could just pop it in. I have seen posts of someone actually doing that (I hope [s]he is listenting!). Maybe you could con NEC into letting you buy their tray separately... say you had a blimp accident and it got busted or something. ;-) I know however, that they use normal drives (unmodified from the manufacturer, unlike Apple who makes Seagate put special SCSI logic in the controller) and you should be able to find out the model number and match it up. I'm still looking for video drivers for my NEC UL Versa and OS/2!!! Anyone know? Anyone know of a tech supt. number in the UK? TTFN Gregg __ /// Smoke signals to: uleblanc@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu Santa Barbara __/// or embu71@castle.ed.ac.uk Endinburgh \\X/ The 11th commandment: "Thou shalt not divide by zero!"
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wingine EISA systems Date: 16 Feb 1994 10:05:42 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2jsr5m$h8a@Times.Stanford.EDU> Does anyone sell systems with Wingine video and EISA expansion bus? (I just noticed that every who sells Wingine seems to sell ISA systems. I can't believe I didn't notice this before.) ...or what's the fastest video you can get on standard NSI compatible EISA systems? The Miro Crystal 32S, VL-bus version? Must we wait for the Viper? -Karl
From: emarshal@mason1.gmu.edu (Eric Marshall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What P5/PCI systems have folks gotten NEXTSTEP to run on? Date: 15 Feb 1994 15:53:31 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <2jqr5r$t6o@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanks in advance.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE Date: 16 Feb 1994 15:19:51 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2jtdin$4tc@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94Feb2180936@capitalist.princeton.edu> <CKrJzK.3KF@utstat.toronto.edu> <2j3t0h$1hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <CKy7Dx.7KC@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <CKy7Dx.7KC@utstat.toronto.edu>, Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote: >In article <2j3t0h$1hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >[ ] >> >>If you are pleased with the low IDE performance - stick to your IDE drives. >>Me, I'd never want to miss my SCSI devices and haven't had any problems >>(except with an old SyQuest drive which behaved badly on the bus), neither >>with Adaptecs nor with DPT. >>But in the first place, I cannot see how one can use NeXTSTEP seriously >>and does not care for a suitable backup media. > >-The VL IDE performance is not slow. In fact the limiting factor is more the >hard drive. I get the feeling after having SCSI and IDE in the same system that the IDE data transfer is being done by programmed I/O instead of DMA. But I suspect this is typical for most IDE based PC's running other O/S'es. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding RAM to Gateway 2000 Date: 16 Feb 1994 15:30:47 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2jte77$55s@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2j6ave$980@agate.berkeley.edu> <CKy7o3.7ps@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <CKy7o3.7ps@utstat.toronto.edu>, Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote: >In article <2j6ave$980@agate.berkeley.edu> markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer) writes: >>Hi all, >> >>I'm planning on adding another 16 megs to my Gateway system (16 megs installed) >>This would bring me up to 28 megs (I'd have to take out a 4M SIMM). I recall >>some discussion of Gateways not recognizing memory above 16M in NS. Am I >>in trouble or is there some way around this (posibbly nonexistant) problem? There's not enough information here to make an accurate diagnosis. There was caching problem with some of the older Gateways with more than 16mb. I don't know if there's a fix. What 'era' or Bios version Gateway do you have? > >Interesting...I had one 16meg simm in a similar setup and added 4 megs and the >computer slowed to a crawl in NS. I do have a SCSI CD-ROM with an Adaptec >1542CF. Perhaps that ISA issue and memory is coming back to haunt us. > If all the disk i/o controllers are ISA bus, then you have a performance hit if the system has more than 16 mb. This definitely can be a horror story. The hardware can directly DMA to the lower 16mb, but anything above this has to be buffered into low memory and than processor moved above this mark. But since most unix I/O is buffered this shouldn't be a complete killer. Any advanced memory starved O/S will have to deal with this problem however. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: INTEL: Sound cards, DSP, and everything... Date: 16 Feb 1994 11:06:31 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402161538.AA00946@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> wresele@iaik.tu-graz.ac.at (Wolfgang Resele) writes: > > [munch] > Why does nobody miss the DSP ? > [munch] > Obviously some people do. You should get in contact with the company iLink in Berlin, Germany. They produce a DSP-Card for Intel-plattforms, that has all the features of the DSP in black hardware. There are also rumours about MusicKit support for that board. EMail-adress should be in the ThirdPartyGuides. Gerd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) Subject: What revision ATI GUP does this bios # give? Message-ID: <1994Feb16.173250.16691@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 17:32:50 GMT Hey all--- I've found someone selling an ATI GUP 2mb card, but i need to know which bios revision it is (v.3 or v.6). It doesn't say on the card specifically, but here's the bios number: 113-19509-102 Any help? It's got a 3 in it... dan fineman@cs.washington.edu ascii please!
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 16 Feb 94 10:26:35 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> <2js3bo$3l3@inxs.concert.net> In-reply-to: info@absystems.com's message of 16 Feb 94 03:19:20 GMT info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes: | In article <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) writes: | | > I am looking at getting some new hardware. I was wondering if anyone had | > any comments on the new P5-66 Pentium machine from Gateway? | | Yes...buy Digital! Or don't. Don't get me wrong. I've been working with one DEC box or another for 17 years. But my first foray into getting a DECpc has sucked like you wouldn't believe. DEC is normally responsive and supportive, but I am *still* trying to get them to complete the order that I placed two months ago. They were very eager to make the sale, promising that it would be here without problems in three days. I couldn't buy that day, but when I did place the order two days later, I was told that it was going to take fourteen days. I called a week later over something---I can't remember what---and couldn't reach my sales rep (Carol Steffik), but was told by her backup sales drone that I couldn't *possibly* have been told that it was 14 days, because *everybody* knew that it was going to take 30 days. This disturbed me. When I finally did get in touch with Carol (who hadn't returned my calls), she assured me that it would still be here in 14 days. By day 18, I'm a bit frustrated. I call Carol. Voice mail. I leave a message. No reply. I call four hours later. And two hours after that. No response. The next day, I call six times. The next day, another six times. The following Monday, I call eight times. By Tuesday, I'm calling every hour on the hour. No response at all. I've just sent them over $4000, and I can't even get a call back. I've been nothing but polite, but I *am* getting progressively more insistent with each call. I started escalating levels of management, but couldn't get a real human on any of them. I finally started having to pay for calls out of my own pocket just to get a human. At 5pm on Tuesday, I made my final call for the day to Carol, and then called her boss for the last time that day. I got his voice mail, and started to leave a message, when there was a beep and a blurp, and then silence. I then stated that something had gone wrong with the voice-mail and that I was going to call back (just in case it was still recording), hung up, and picked up the phone again. Silence, and some clunking. "Hello?" I said. Silence. Again, I said "Hello?" "Oh! This must be Ken!" It was Carol; she had picked up her boss' phone about thirty seconds earlier, but oddly enough hadn't bothered to actually *say* anything. "How are you!" Big surprise. Much innocence. I said, in a low voice, "Annoyed." That's all I said. Whereupon she went into a long spiel about being in meetings all day, hardly having time to do anything, she's gonna talk to the manager about this, etc., etc., etc. I pointed out that all I wanted was a five-minute phone call. She promised that she would call by 1pm her time the next day. She didn't. I started calling at 2pm her time. An hour later, I called again. Then thirty minutes later, another call. I started leaving voice-mail calls at higher levels of management. She didn't call until 4pm her time. It was only *then* that she told me about the problems at their Canadian manufacturing plant. I said, well, if it would help, I don't *need* the 5.25" floppy or the 128K cache right away, and I could get by with 24MB of RAM for the moment, but that I REALLY NEEDED the rest. It arrived 32 days after I placed the order. It was missing the 128K cache. Okay. But it had the 5.25" floppy, but not the 3.5" floppy. So much for installing NeXTstep. Thanks a lot, guys. So after some more frantic calling, I still couldn't get Carol to give me a return call, and went up more levels of management. And *finally*, someone in Arizona called me to try to resolve the floppy problem. She seriously suggested I call Robert Palmer's (CEO of DEC) office (on my dime, of course), and so I did. Of course, I had to leave voice-mail again. That was a Thursday. The following day, I got 15 phone calls. DEC really came through that day, in spite of most of them having only heard about the problem on a Friday. I managed to get a loaner 3.5" floppy from their local field-service office. They were a little confused though, because the 128K cache expansion had apparently been cancelled. I hadn't cancelled it. Even if I had, I hadn't heard a damn thing about any refund on it. It's now almost a month after that. Since then, I still haven't gotten the 128K cache. I did get a 3.5" floppy drive, but it doesn't fit in the 3.5" slot provided. I've called Carol a couple of dozen times since then; she did return one of my calls, and promised to call me back with a return authorization number for the drive, but she never did, in spite of more phone calls to her. I've pretty much given up on everybody but the local field office, and they're apparently meeting with frustration on this, too. They'd really like the drive that they loaned me back, too. So four weeks after getting the box two weeks late, I'm still missing parts, and the only people that seem to want to work with me is the local field-service office, and it's not even supposed to be their problem. This has cost me a non-trivial amount of money to try to resolve, and has cost me some respect among my partners ("why spend so much on that brand?" "because they're reliable, that's why"), and it's cost me a *lot* of time that I simply can't afford. This is no slam on DEC workstations or their big boxes---they've been nothing but good to me over the years. But I can't recommend *ever* buying a PC from them, because that department is apparently being run by lobotomized gerbils. It's a pity, too. This is otherwise a good box. ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Deleting a server Date: 16 Feb 1994 11:08:05 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access Service (310 527-4279) Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2jtqul$av8@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> I have a cube that was configured as a server using "SimpleNetworkStarter". I would like to make that cube a client. How do I reconfigure the machine? Any help will be much appreciated. Chip -- | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "When all else fails, | | Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 keep the blue | | Long Beach, CA ***NeXTstep on black*** side UP!" |
From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PD DSP-port TTY Project Date: 16 Feb 1994 20:26:19 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2jtvhb$l5g@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <139141@hydra.gatech.EDU> <jeffo.761383267@uiuc.edu> In article <jeffo.761383267@uiuc.edu> J.B. Nicholson-Owens (jeffo@uiuc.edu) wrote: :>David W. Rinker writes: :>> I'm running a '40 cube with System Release 2.1 O/S, I have a connection :>>to a PC via the serial port (ttya). I have the following line in my :>>/etc/ttys: :>[...] :>>Is there a way I can boost it up (I would like 115200 baud), do I need :>>NS 3.1, a new driver, or what?? :>I don't know if TTYDSP would work here, but it sounds like just what :>you need. Basically, it's an add-on for your DSP port turning it into :>one super high-speed serial port (which could handle speeds far beyond :>what the '040 black hardware can do). OK. Here's a question. How hard would this be to do home-brew? Seems to me the hardware would be dead-easy (provided you has RS232 line drivers that were fast enough, etc., but even those aren't hard to make.) Seems the hard part would be the loadable kernel module. Anyone want to work on this this summer? I'd tentatively volunteer to do the hardware, unless someone replies to tell me that it's infinitely harder than I think, in which case I'll foget about it. :) Anyone for the software? ============================================================================= David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WangDAT question Date: 16 Feb 1994 13:22 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <16FEB199413222344@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. I recently purchased a WangDAT (3100) from APS. I have NS/Moto 3.2 on a 25Mhz 040 Cube. The 1st drive APS delivered (appeared to work correctly in all aspects (i.e. I think I would have noted the problem described below). However, that drive overheated and distroyed itself and two of my tapes. APS replaced that drive with another which worked fine - except it would not eject the tape via software. Thinking that APS had failed to set SW1-4, APS replaced the drive; but the replacement also refuses to eject the tape - even using mt commands. APS is adament that this time they are positive that the switch has been set on. Have any of you had similar problems? Do you have suggestions regarding a way to resolve that it is the drive (vs the OS, the SCSI motherboard interface, etc.). Please respond to citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu Thanks. Don McCollam citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
From: mathog@seqvax.caltech.edu (David Mathog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 16 Feb 1994 12:58 PST Organization: Division of Biolgy, CALTECH Distribution: world Message-ID: <16FEB199412585406@seqvax.caltech.edu> References: <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> <2js3bo$3l3@inxs.concert.net> <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu>, mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes... >| Yes...buy Digital! >Or don't. ><long story deleted> It sounds like you placed this order through your local sales rep rather than through DEC direct. If so, why? If not, is this a common problem when ordering PCs from DEC direct? That would surprise me since I've never had problems with any of the orders for supplies or software that I've placed with them. Just wondering, David Mathog mathog@seqvax.bio.caltech.edu Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Message-ID: <2ju2mu$g7k@inxs.concert.net> Date: 16 Feb 94 21:20:30 GMT References: <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes: > Don't get me wrong. I've been working with one DEC box or another for 17 > years. But my first foray into getting a DECpc has sucked like you wouldn't > believe. DEC is normally responsive and supportive, but I am *still* trying to > get them to complete the order that I placed two months ago. > > They were very eager to make the sale, promising that it would be here without > problems in three days. I couldn't buy that day, but when I did place the > order two days later, I was told that it was going to take fourteen days. I > called a week later over something---I can't remember what---and couldn't reach > my sales rep (Carol Steffik), but was told by her backup sales drone that I > couldn't *possibly* have been told that it was 14 days, because *everybody* > knew that it was going to take 30 days. > Because I am not in a position to speak for Digital, I can only expound on my statement and our relationship with them. DEC has had an extreme problem because of their growth from 30th in the PC market only two years ago to number 6 as we speak. Six months ago DEC was delivering their MTEs in about 21-28 days, although I was able to obtain a Pentium XL in 24 hours through distribution channels. Although resellers don't have a lot of incentive to sell DECs as margins are extremely small, the name on the box as well as the quality of the hardware and the ability to order systems with no hard drives and no ram helps a lot for EXACT configuration purposes. Their ability to support NeXTSTEP is however, rather limited and our experience shows that while DEC is almost always ahead of the game technologically, Data General comes and finishes the job with machines on par with DEC with some NeXTSTEP enhancements. Of Data General, I can say that of all of the "1st teri" hardware, the company is the only one with a department dedicate to NeXTSTEP service and support which is why we sell primarily DEC and Data General. Dave Briggman -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: screen width to height ratio Date: 16 Feb 1994 23:26:41 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jua3h$5fc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I'm shopping for a new multisync monitor for my colorstation and am finding that the ratio of number of horizontal pixels to number of vertical pixels (width to height) is not constant. Sometimes it is 1.25 and sometimes it is 1.3333. What happens when one switches from a monitor with width/height = 1.25 to width/height = 1.3333? Does the picture get stretched, or does the postscript driver compenstate somehow? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: mrb@earth.wustl.edu (Mike Bray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compatible mouse for NestStation ? Date: 17 Feb 1994 00:50:19 GMT Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2juf0b$jmm@bigfoot.wustl.edu> References: <9402101734.AA01305@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> <1994Feb11.021811.583@mrk.com> Cc: In article <1994Feb11.021811.583@mrk.com>, Jerald Dawson <jerald@mrk.com> wrote: >In article <9402101734.AA01305@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd >Knops) writes: >> > We are starting to have problem fixing our NexStations mice. Since >> When a mouse here died, we called Bell Atlantic (next's service provider) and had a new one a week later. $69. No problem at that time. A bit expensive, but saved a lot of screwing around, and solved the problem quickly. Mike Bray mrb@earth.wustl.edu
From: strickla@aludra.usc.edu (Bryan Strickland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to get a SCSI-2 to SCSI-2 cable Date: 16 Feb 1994 18:52:21 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: strickla@aludra.usc.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2jum55$dd1@aludra.usc.edu> I would like to connect a NEC 3xe CD rom drive to an Adaptek 1742 adaptor only problem is, I can't seem to find a place that will sells a SCSI-2 cable (one that has the small 50 pin SCSI two connector on both ends) Does anyone know where I can mailorder such a cable, and how much these things cost? By the way, I called NEC, and they are out of stock. Thanks, Bryan
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: dump from cube to HP dat causes panic Date: 17 Feb 1994 03:41:52 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services Message-ID: <2jup20$1di@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> as the subject would indicate i'm getting panics when i do dumps to my new bargain-basement HP dat drive (35450A). The host is an old cube upgraded from an 030 to 040; early rev 040 board. When I dump the internal (MAXTOR XT-8380S Rev B3C) 330M disk, i get no problems. restore -i is happy, although i haven't gotten to the point of testing whether i can actually restore files. When I dump the external (MICROP 1598-15MD1066701 Rev) 1G disk, I get system panics with the message: panic: (Cpu 0) dma_list: zero pfnum this has happened four times. the first three were all around 40% into the dump. The fourth was aobut 60% into the dump. (before the fourth dump I removed the "parity checking" jumper from the drive; boy was I anxious as it got past 50%, hoping that my problem was so easily solved). the machine is running NextStep 3.0 (soon to upgrade to 3.2; but of course one of the things I want to do before I upgrade is a level 0 dump ;). The machine has a fairly long scsi chain; the two disks, a PLI floppy, the tape drive, and a CDROM (which was disconnected for the last three dumps, since I needed it somewhere else). In particular, there is one long SCSI-SCSI cable in the chain. (but I have not seen scsi problems anywhere else). I have done all the dumps while the machine was in multi user mode (bad boy, i know), but in each case there was no one logged in, and the machine was not exporting anything via NFS. I was logged in on console, but only was watching the progress of the dump (except after the fourth dump passed 45%; at that point i got a little cocky and ftp'd some files, but didn't modify the disk being dumped, i put them on the other disk). There is a jumper for scsi termination power. I have not installed the scsi terminating resistors that came with the drive, but the jumper is in the (factory default) "supply power to scsi termination" mode. I can't imagine that this would be a problem, but... I have yet to try the tape drive with another machine. It is likely we will be getting a sparc of some sort, with which I would like to use this tape drive. One guy i've corresponded with said he had a problem with it automatically sensing the blocking factor on reads, but if he manually specified it it worked. Could this be related somehow? any suggestions? Has anyone used this particular tape drive with or without problems? thanks, danno -- dan pritts consultant/system administrator dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/us unix support group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com Subject: MegaPixel 17-inch Color Display Problem Message-ID: <1994Feb16.194341.3642@afs.com> Keywords: Display Sender: mutz@afs.com Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 19:43:41 GMT I'm having troubles with my MegaPixel 17-inch Color Display, model: N4001 (May 1992). While I was working at home, the monitor went blank. I brought it into our office the next day and tried it on another NeXTstation Color slab and it worked fine. So I took it home that night and everything worked fine. The next night, the monitor was blank again at power up. Today when I brought the monitor and slab to the office, the monitor would not work on another machine, but another monitor would work on my machine from home (using the same cables etc.). Any suggestions, loose wires, nuts... Also any suggestions on what to do about service (Bell Atlantic, etc) would be greatly appreciated!!!!! Thanks in advance, Greg -- Gregory L. Mutzel, 215-653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems, Inc. email: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com [NeXTmail Appreciated]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) Subject: ND Questions Message-ID: <1994Feb17.050516.29282@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 05:05:16 GMT I am now the owner of a NeXTdimension board. Now I need some help getting it up and running. 1) What specifications must a monitor meet to be successfully used with the ND? 2) Does anyone have any specific monitor recommendations? 3) Where can I get a cable to connect the board to the monitor? 4)What do I have to ask for? 5) How much memory should I put in? 6) What if I put in less? 7) do 8 MB SIMMS _really_ work? 8) is there an FAQ somewhere that has more info in it about the ND than the ``standard'' FAQ? --- Thanks in advance --- Bill. -- William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science --- snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be. ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com Subject: NeXTstation Color Monitor Options? Message-ID: <1994Feb16.223938.3796@afs.com> Keywords: monitor Sender: mutz@afs.com Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 22:39:38 GMT What are my monitor replacement options for a NeXTstation Color machine, besides buying a new or used 17" MegaPixel Color Display? Suggestions and experiences requested, Greg -- Gregory L. Mutzel, 215-653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems, Inc. email: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com [NeXTmail Appreciated]
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Date: 17 Feb 94 07:40:38 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.761470838@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <CL744r.5A0@nosloc.com> <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: >Is there any reason to ever boot real DOS/Windows again? Yes. MS Access simply does not work under SoftPC. I'm a bit sad about this, because WinWord, Excel and so on don't cause any trouble. Regards, Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 17 Feb 1994 02:07:45 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2jujhh$3qa@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes: > info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes: > > | derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) writes: > | > | > I am looking at getting some new hardware. I was wondering if > | > anyone had any comments on the new P5-66 Pentium machine from > | > Gateway? > | > | Yes...buy Digital! > > Or don't. > > Don't get me wrong. I've been working with one DEC box or another > for 17 years. But my first foray into getting a DECpc has sucked > like you wouldn't believe. DEC is normally responsive and supportive, > but I am *still* trying to get them to complete the order that I > placed two months ago. [tale of painful dealings with DEC skipped over] > This is no slam on DEC workstations or their big boxes---they've > been nothing but good to me over the years. But I can't recommend > *ever* buying a PC from them, because that department is apparently > being run by lobotomized gerbils. > > It's a pity, too. This is otherwise a good box. Sounds like the problem is all with handling of orders, and not with the XL box itself. Perhaps this argues that end-customers should buy DEC pc's thru some third party, who gets to deal with all the ordering hassles, and not deal with DEC directly. Certainly the DECpc XL box itself looks like a great box for running NeXTSTEP (once the drivers for it are released), so I'm quite interested in the machine. I do intend to order the box via someone else though, and I think your tale of aggravation just emphasizes that that may be the best strategy. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wacom SD series tablet Message-ID: <1994Feb16.225231.1021@earlham.edu> From: alberjo@earlham.edu Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 22:53:43 -500 Organization: Earlham College Keywords: Wacom, stylus looking for a Wacom SD series tablet. If you have one or know of someone that does please post or send mail!!!! thanks, Joshua Albertson alberjo@earlham.edu
From: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Date: 17 Feb 1994 09:45:53 GMT Organization: Institut de Physiologie, Universite de Lausanne Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8561] Message-ID: <2jvech$l1t@cisun2000.unil.ch> References: <CL744r.5A0@nosloc.com> <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> <next2.761470838@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. Had anyone been able to run the Windows version of S-Plus on SoftPC under nextstep? Thanks- Sean L. Hill Institut de Physiologie / Universite de Lausanne Rue du Bugnon, 7 CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch NEXTMAIL: hill@iisnext1.unil.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu (James Goes) Subject: Recommendations for Intel/NS system Message-ID: <CL0q7B.L9M@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: goes Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:57:04 GMT We are writing a proposal to get an Intel box to run NS 3.2 for various networking functions (gopher, e-mail server, BBS), so I am looking for recommendations regarding system configuration, vendor, etc. In the interest of minimizing hassle, we are hoping for something that will run NS out of the box, and is known to integrate well in a mixed MAC/IBM/NeXT environment. Price is a smaller factor than ease of setup. I would really appreciate any advice. Forgive me if this is an FAQ. If you can point me to a discussion of this issue, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance. *************************************************************** Jim Goes + InterNet: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu Health Management & Policy + (NeXTmail welcome!) School of Public Health + Phone: (612) 624-3118 University of Minnesota + FAX: (612) 624-3972 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti) Subject: Graphics terminal for NeXTStep ? Message-ID: <CLDCFx.4o0@utnetw.utoledo.edu> Sender: news@utnetw.utoledo.edu (News Manager) Organization: University of Toledo Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 12:38:20 GMT Hello: I want to know what kind of graphics terminal can be used with NeXT which can provide all the GUI stuff on the terminal. Just like the X Terminals used on workstations supporting X. Hope someone here can help. Thanks. //Mohan mohan@tulip.es.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: What revision ATI GUP does this bios # give? Message-ID: <CLDJ0w.9nD@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <1994Feb16.173250.16691@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 15:00:32 GMT In article <1994Feb16.173250.16691@beaver.cs.washington.edu> fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) writes: > Hey all--- > > I've found someone selling an ATI GUP 2mb card, but i need > to know which bios revision it is (v.3 or v.6). It doesn't say > on the card specifically, but here's the bios number: > > Look at the surface mount asic, it should end in 688003 or 688006 for rev 3 or rev 6 -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rice@imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) Subject: Test install with 4Mb RAM? Possible? Message-ID: <CLDItL.841@imag.fr> Organization: IMAG, Grenoble, France Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:56:09 GMT I am thinking of buying a used PC to run NEXTSTEP, but since it's not one of the listed systems, I obviously want to try a test install first. However, the machine as it stands has only 4Mb RAM. Does anyone know if it would be possible to just verify the functioning of the machine (in mono) with this amount of memory - start up workspace, run an app or two? -- Jonathan -- | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS-IMAG | | Email: Jonathan.Rice@imag.fr | B.P. 53 | | Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 | | Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | FRANCE |
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What Machine Does Windows NT Run Best On? Date: 17 Feb 1994 14:51:17 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k0095$s3t@inxs.concert.net> A friend of mine just forwarded this onto me...looks like Microsoft takes a beating in that particular newsgroup quite frequently From: Denise Blakeley <blake015@bullnext.mc.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 09:00:52 -0500 To: info@absystems.com Subject: Your humor for today I just saw this on rec.humor.funny! Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on? A. A 35mm slide projector. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: HP Gecko Pricing and Configuration Information (FROM HP) Date: 17 Feb 1994 14:55:54 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k00hr$s7o@inxs.concert.net> I have the configuration/pricing information from HP as far as the Gecko goes. Those who wish to have PostScript versions of the spec/pricing sheets can email me requests (info@absystems.com) Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: eboltz@acoustica.mrd.bldrdoc.gov (Eric) Subject: ADB (BLACK) mice/trackball recommendations? Message-ID: <CLDK18.8ps@dove.nist.gov> Originator: news@central Sender: news@dove.nist.gov Organization: NIST Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 15:22:20 GMT My second NEXT ADB-mouse is getting stick button syndrome and, since it's no longer under warrantee I'm looking for non-NEXT replacements. Anyone out have any suggestions for a good ADB mouse or trackball? Anyone used the Kensington Trackball for Macs? thanks! -Eric -- Eric S. Boltz My views, opinions and statements in no way reflect those of the U.S. Gov't, the U.S. Department of Commerce or NIST.
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: HP Gecko Pricing and Configuration Information (FROM HP) Message-ID: <2k07ql$ur@inxs.concert.net> Date: 17 Feb 94 17:00:05 GMT References: <2k00hr$s7o@inxs.concert.net> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Please provide a fax number as I've determined email is a little slow from SLIP because of size (it's about 18 pages total). Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 17 Feb 94 09:06:36 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Feb17090636@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> <2js3bo$3l3@inxs.concert.net> <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <16FEB199412585406@seqvax.caltech.edu> In-reply-to: mathog@seqvax.caltech.edu's message of 16 Feb 1994 12:58 PST | It sounds like you placed this order through your local sales rep rather than | through DEC direct. Nope. I called DEC Direct. ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Message-ID: <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> Summary: the thing stinks up the place Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:44:10 GMT Hi, is there some way to turn OFF the NeXT Laser printer attached to my cube, via software? There MUST be, but I haven't the foggiest clue how. It can at least be turned on via software, because it only turns on after a lot of the boot process.. But I can't figure out which program turns it on. I want to turn it off for long periods when i dont use it because it stinks up the place which doesnt have any air cirulation. (the black filter it uses smells like sweaty socks..) Thanks!! Odisseas kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 17 Feb 94 09:55:57 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Feb17095557@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <2ju2mu$g7k@inxs.concert.net> In-reply-to: info@absystems.com's message of 16 Feb 94 21:20:30 GMT info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes: | DEC has had an extreme problem because of their growth from 30th in the PC | market only two years ago to number 6 as we speak. Yes, I agree that that is probably the problem. The story, by the way, has been added to somewhat. For not four hours after I posted that to the network, I got an otherwise unsolicited call from Carol Stecyk. (What Ken Learned, Part I: DEC actually reads Usenet, albeit through their internal message service called NOTES.) (What Ken Learned, Part II: It's not Steffik. It's Stecyk. Shame on me. You'd think after eight or nine weeks, I should have known that.) I should make very clear, by the way, that I *don't* think the problem was solely Carol's, and it would be a big mistake on anyone's part to lay the majority of the blame at her feet. In 90% of cases like this, the blame lies with management. Now, granted, *I* don't know why I couldn't get a five-minute phone call back, but then, I'm not there, and I don't know what sort of a customer load anyone's handling. But judging from some of the E-mail that I've received in the last day, Carol isn't the only sales rep who's being unresponsive---in one case, for example, one of DEC's customers is probably going to go with HP now after trying to get in touch with a sales rep for three weeks about buying an Alpha. So I'm guessing that it's pretty much system-wide, and Carol deserves only a minor blame quotient, if any. Her managers should be looking at the system, and take my experience with Carol only as a data point in a much more general problem. (What Ken Learned, Part III: Be more clear in your writing. I got one letter telling me that Carol probably wasn't the one at fault, and that was actually one of the points I tried to make at the end of my post, but alas. . . .) Sure, DEC's PC department is growing like mad. But they may be falling into the trap of putting preferential service to big customers. If that's the case, I understand that---how could I possibly be mad about that? If their Canadian manufacturing plant broke---well, okay, life sucks sometimes, and that's okay. But I'm not a big customer. I'm involved in a startup business on somewhat of a deadline. The money in the machine came from hocking one of the partners' personal vehicles (it's collateral in a personal loan). If I can't find out what's going on---if DEC can't arrange to let me know what's going on---then it makes *me* look *BAD*, because I was the one who justified buying this particular machine. I nearly lost my place in this startup over it. It's gonna take some time for my reputation to quit bleeding. Is that Carol's fault? Actually, probably not. *Management* has the responsibility of making sure that the customers---not just the big ones---get notified. If I could have gotten notified first, we could have all done some internal bitching about the situation and coped with it. Instead, I had to keep getting frantic phone calls from people asking where the machine was, and had to keep replying, "well, I don't know." Do I think Carol would have called me if she'd had time? Okay, I don't know. I can say that when I *have* gotten to talk with Carol, she's been engaging, intelligent, and reasonably knowledgable. So yeah, on some level, I think it would have been better. But why doesn't she have the time to let her customers know what's up? Why doesn't she have the information at hand? Management. Pure and simple. (What Ken Hopes DEC Learns, Part I: DEC, you never know which one of your customers hocked their trucks or reputations to buy your equipment based on your reputation of excellence. Try treating them *all* well.) [Note: This could just as easily be applied to NeXT as well.] (What Ken Hopes DEC Learns, Part II: Kids, your customers will cope with your delays *infinitely* better if you TELL THEM WHY, up front, and be honest about what's going on. It's quite possible to cope with Bad Things if there's enough information. If you leave them completely in the dark until you've actually managed to annoy them, then what you've got is a bunch of annoyed customers. Or ex-customers.) (What Ken Hopes DEC Learns, Part III: Don't overburden your sales reps. Too often, they're the only link your customer has with the rest of your company.) Oh. One other thing I apparently wasn't especially clear on. Do I like the hardware I got? Well, what I've gotten, *yeah*. This really is a beautifully designed box. For example, I thought that putting in the 3.5" floppy drive (when I got it) would be nearly impossible, it was in that tight of a space, until I realized that the entire central bay just came out. The machine runs perfectly. I'm using NeXTstep on it even as I type, and it's worth the extra bucks just for 1280x1024 color. There are 16 icons in my dock. I don't even need a dock extender. This machine should be usable for some years to come, too; it'll take the P24T upgrade, memory goes to 64MB, and my SCSI cache is expandable to 64MB as well (though that's not DEC's doing). My single hardware complaint is that they didn't provide a set of pins for hooking up the front-panel drive-activity light for those of us that aren't using IDE. Big deal. It really is a nice box. Were it not for DEC's dropping-the-ball lately, I'd recommend it to anyone. (What Ken Learned, Part IV: The problems at the Canadian plant are over as of the last few days; DEC is allegedly caught up, and back to a 14-day lead time on all their PCs.) Note that if this is true, though, I'd still be leery of recommending DEC if only because of the difficulty I had getting a response. If DEC improves this---and I hope they do, because I'll probably always have a soft spot in my heart for DEC stuff---then I'd go back to recommending DEC wholeheartedly. Like I said: before this, I've never been disappointed by DEC. ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 17 Feb 94 09:58:51 Organization: Dubious. Distribution: world Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Feb17095851@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <2jujhh$3qa@usenet.rpi.edu> In-reply-to: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 17 Feb 1994 02:07:45 GMT gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: | Sounds like the problem is all with handling of orders, and not with the XL | box itself. Perhaps this argues that end-customers should buy DEC pc's thru | some third party, who gets to deal with all the ordering hassles, and not | deal with DEC directly. Well, as I mentioned in the rather long followup I just posted, DEC says that their problems are now over in that regard, and they're caught up. Meaning that lead times on most machines are down to 14 days again. In fact, for many of the XL configurations, they're down to seven days or less. Also, I got the MTEd2, not the XL, but I'm delighted with what I've actually received so far. ---Ken McGlothlen mcglk@cpac.washington.edu mcglk@cpac.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Message-ID: <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: CTI, Universite Laval References: <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 15:29:30 GMT In article <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes: > Hi, is there some way to turn OFF the NeXT Laser printer attached to > my cube, via software? There MUST be, but I haven't the foggiest clue > how. It can at least be turned on via software, because it only > turns on after a lot of the boot process.. But I can't figure out which > program turns it on. Yes, it is called sleepprinter, available on the archives, works great. Cheers! --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | +-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker) Subject: Optical drive on 030 cube under NS 3.2 Message-ID: <HUGH.94Feb17111356@hodain.ci.net> Sender: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker) Organization: JTA Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:13:56 GMT Could someone confirm or deny that NS 3.2 will run on an 030 cube (albeit slowly) with full support for the optical drive. Email is fine. Thanks. Hugh -- Hugh Secker-Walker | hugh@hodain.ci.net (NeXTmail ok) Perceptual Acoustics | hugh@ear.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) Subject: Re: Gecko pricing - alternative memory pricing Message-ID: <CLDsov.49J@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: The Geometry Center, University of Minnesota References: <2iqkcs$51q@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <2jdhpl$3gl@faui06p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 18:25:18 GMT In article <2jdhpl$3gl@faui06p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>, Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler <hdwoernd@faui06p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote: >The price of the entry-version is around 8900DM without taxes. 64 MBytes of RAM >cost over twice the price of the CPU, about $ 8000 (!). it might be cheaper, >if you don't buy it at HP. That is sure the truth. I checked with Impediment (617-837-8877) and they are quoting 32 meg (2 SIMM) Kingston memory kits for less than 1/2 the $3840 that HP lists on their price list. Scott S. Bertilson --
From: bbeckwit@carrock.hw.stratus.com (Bob Beckwith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Date: 17 Feb 1994 19:43:31 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <2k0hd5$48s@transfer.stratus.com> References: <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> In article <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: >In article <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos >Odisseas) writes: >> [Question about how to turn off printer deleted] > >Yes, it is called sleepprinter, available on the archives, works great. I've not used sleepprinter, but the program /usr/etc/nppower will allow you to turn the printer off (/usr/etc/nppower off works quite nicely). Another thing you can consider doing is adding this to your crontab so that every 5 or 10 minutes you turn the printer off. I've never tried, but I think if you issue an power off command while the printer is printing, it gets "queued up" and the printer turns off after it's done. Hope this helps! --Bob -- Bob_Beckwith@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc., Hardware Engineering 55 Fairbanks Blvd. Marlboro, MA 01752 USA
From: childc@tosh.cas.american.edu (Craig Child) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN & PhoneKit and 3.2 Date: 17 Feb 1994 21:04:19 GMT Organization: The American University Computing Center Message-ID: <2k0m4j$m7j@paladin.american.edu> Has anyone here used the Hayes ISDN Extender with phoneKit and 3.2 PhoneKit is not distributed with 3.2. Are there any problems that I should know about. Are there any third party programs?? Craig
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: driver kit/LKS questions (sort-of) answered Date: 17 Feb 1994 23:16:20 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2k0ts4$k6j@digdug.pencom.com> References: <2jetdf$n6m@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> >But one nice thing about a pure LKS is that it can be unloaded, >which greatly simplifies debugging. It certainly does. Having to reboot takes a loong time. I normally have a LKS that mess with the hardware I'm testing and do printfs and see what happens. Then I unload the LKS and make changes to the source code, build and load it again. Saves a lot of time. -- Ricardo J. Parada
From: baer@psssun.pss.msu.edu (Brian Baer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Date: 17 Feb 1994 23:26:26 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <2k0uf2$12rg@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> References: <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> <2k0hd5$48s@transfer.stratus.com> bbeckwit@carrock.hw.stratus.com (Bob Beckwith) writes: >In article <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: >>In article <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos >>Odisseas) writes: >>> [Question about how to turn off printer deleted] >> >>Yes, it is called sleepprinter, available on the archives, works great. >I've not used sleepprinter, but the program /usr/etc/nppower will allow you to >turn the printer off (/usr/etc/nppower off works quite nicely). Another thing >you can consider doing is adding this to your crontab so that every 5 or 10 >minutes you turn the printer off. I've never tried, but I think if you >issue an power off command while the printer is printing, it gets "queued up" >and the printer turns off after it's done. If the NeXT printer is already off and you issue a nppower off command doesn't the computer first turn on the printer before turning it off? An every 5 minute turning on and off the printer doesn't seem like a great idea. -- Brian Baer baer@psssun.pss.msu.edu
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD DSP-port TTY Project Date: 17 Feb 1994 20:11:11 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k0j0v$1hi@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <2jtvhb$l5g@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> In article <2jtvhb$l5g@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) writes: <stuff about TTY-DSP deleted> > OK. Here's a question. How hard would this be to do home-brew? > Seems to me the hardware would be dead-easy (provided you has > RS232 line drivers that were fast enough, etc., but even those > aren't hard to make.) Seems the hard part would be the loadable > kernel module. > Anyone want to work on this this summer? I'd tentatively > volunteer to do the hardware, unless someone replies to tell > me that it's infinitely harder than I think, in which case I'll > foget about it. :) Anyone for the software? > The hardware part is dead-easy indeed... All the hardware you need for the serial stuff is already siliconed on your DSP, except the line-drivers. The software part is the trickiest... but it would be an interesting project especially with the new V.FAST modems! Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments Date: 17 Feb 1994 23:46:23 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2k0vkf$51m@digdug.pencom.com> References: <2js3bo$3l3@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes: > Yes...buy Digital! NEC is also pretty good and it flies! I use it! And I like it! RJP
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD DSP-port TTY Project Message-ID: <2k11mr$83j@inxs.concert.net> Date: 18 Feb 94 00:21:47 GMT References: <2k0j0v$1hi@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <2k0j0v$1hi@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: My question might be: With TTYDSP already on the market and developed - why would you want to re-write a product with currently such a limited usage. IT IS AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT, AND VERY WELL DONE but until DSPs become a cost-effective reality on the Intel side, why waste your money or your time trying to write it? Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP Gecko Pricing and Configuration Information (FROM HP) Message-ID: <2k12de$8bl@inxs.concert.net> Date: 18 Feb 94 00:33:50 GMT References: <2k00hr$s7o@inxs.concert.net> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Because of the load our SLIP connection, I have placed a file called HP.Gecko.tar.Z at the FTP site called: raphael.acpub.duke.edu (anonymous logins) in the directory /pub/incoming it will save us a tremendous amount of time replying to individual and group queries so if you haven't received any email from us thus far today regarding your inquiry, please ftp to retrieve the PostScript file (.8MB). (Thanks to Duke University for the space) Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: rogoff@sccm.Stanford.EDU (Brian Rogoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments Date: 17 Feb 94 17:16:17 Organization: /u/rogoff/.organization Message-ID: <ROGOFF.94Feb17171617@sccm.Stanford.EDU> References: <2js3bo$3l3@inxs.concert.net> <2k0vkf$51m@digdug.pencom.com> In-reply-to: ricardo@pencom.com's message of 17 Feb 1994 23:46:23 GMT In article <2k0vkf$51m@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) writes: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes: > Yes...buy Digital! NEC is also pretty good and it flies! I use it! And I like it! RJP Which NEC machine are you referring to? What is your configuration like? Can any of these Pentium/PCI machines for running NS be had for < $7K for a full system (32M RAM, 17" monitor, SCSI CDROM, ...)? -- Brian Rogoff -- rogoff@sccm.Stanford.EDU -- Scientific Computing Dept., Stanford University
From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question about DPT 2022 Date: 18 Feb 1994 01:22:20 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2k158c$l56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Hi All Does anyone know what kind of memory the DPT 2022 takes? Regular SIMMS? -- Kenny Leung University of Alberta kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca Ph: 403-492-9343 Fax: 403-492-1729 iver
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Question about DPT 2022 Message-ID: <2k186p$9u5@inxs.concert.net> Date: 18 Feb 94 02:12:41 GMT References: <2k158c$l56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <2k158c$l56@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) writes: > Hi All > > Does anyone know what kind of memory the DPT 2022 takes? > > Regular SIMMS? > Regular SIMMS (72-pin I believe) -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help formatting for "HP 97560-300" hard disk. Date: 18 Feb 1994 00:07:07 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199402180606.HAA29657@grasp.insa-lyon.fr> Bonjour! I've HP-Hard Disk(HP 97560-300) with 1.7GB listing capacity, but can only obtain 1.2GB after formatting in my NeXTCube (NS3.2). I think this gab is too large. It seems that the reason I couldn't getting more space on hard drive is because the NeXT disk formatting software cannot deal with a drive that large, and accordingly, reduces the size. If my suggestion isn't wrong, please let me know how can I correct it, or construct the proper disktab for my drive. Merci d'avance. --
Kwangbo SHIM 87, rue Marengo, 42100 St-Etienne, FRANCE Voice, Fax & Data:(+33)77933688 Basic Schedule: 08h-18h Email: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (NeXTMail OK!) #################################################################### #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Message-ID: <CLEwo8.DD3@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> <next2.761470838@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <2jvech$l1t@cisun2000.unil.ch> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 08:52:56 GMT In article <2jvech$l1t@cisun2000.unil.ch> Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill) writes: >Had anyone been able to run the Windows version of S-Plus on SoftPC >under nextstep? S+ is a very important program ( which existed for black NeXT's). It's uses the 32bit mode of 386's and 486's and hence won't run under SoftPC. I doubt that software emmulation is the answer to very much. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: michi@cube (Michele Giardini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Test install with 4Mb RAM? Possible? Date: 18 Feb 1994 09:49:11 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <2k22un$a0j@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> References: <CLDItL.841@imag.fr> rice@imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) writes: : I am thinking of buying a used PC to run NEXTSTEP, but since it's not : one of the listed systems, I obviously want to try a test install first. : However, the machine as it stands has only 4Mb RAM. Does anyone know if : it would be possible to just verify the functioning of the machine : (in mono) with this amount of memory - start up workspace, run an app or : two? : : -- Jonathan I've tried the same using a Dell 33Mhz ... Yes it works, but you can't imagine how slow it is ..... After the login panel, it took about 15 minutes to display the Workspace, and I've not tried to run any application. I've also tried the 1024x768x2 video with the integrated VLB S3805 ... no problem at all. Good luck Michele --- Giardini Michele - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006266 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brocher@sdz01.uu.ch (Dominic Brocher) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Sender: news@sdz01.uu.ch (News Administrator) Message-ID: <1994Feb18.091453.15355@sdz01.uu.ch> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:14:53 GMT References: <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> <2k0hd5$48s@transfer.stratus.com> <2k0uf2$12rg@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Organization: Sandoz Technology Ltd., Basle, Switzerland In article <2k0uf2$12rg@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, Brian Baer <baer@psssun.pss.msu.edu> wrote: >If the NeXT printer is already off and you issue a nppower off command doesn't >the computer first turn on the printer before turning it off? An every 5 >minute turning on and off the printer doesn't seem like a great idea. > >-- Brian Baer > baer@psssun.pss.msu.edu You're right. I turn the printer off from rc.local using the following lines: # turn laser printer off (sleep 5 ; /usr/etc/nppower off) && echo " printer_off" >> /dev/console The sleep is necessary to let the printer first complete the start-up sequence initiated from npd (I think). Five seconds should be enough, you can also try if it works with four or three seconds (I actually have three seconds in my rc.local but it doesn't always work...) When you print something the printer turns on automatically (it takes about a minute for the warm-up). When I know I won't print again for the next hour or so, I turn it off from a shell using 'nppower off' (you can also use the print manager if you like). There are also some shell scripts which can be run from cron to turn the printer off when it has not been used for ten minutes or so. I haven't used them personally but if somebody is interested I can mail or post them. Dominic Brocher -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ brocher@sdz01.uu.ch | Make everything as simple as possible Sandoz Technology Ltd. | but not simpler. Basle Switzerland | -- A. Einstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu (Paul Furbacher) Subject: ZEOS 486 and NextStep--Possible? Message-ID: <pf-180294051620@biomac1c.bio.purdue.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Organization: Dept. Biol. Sciences, Purdue Univ. Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 10:14:39 GMT Has anyone gotten NextStep running on a ZEOS 486? If so, please e-mail. If sufficient interest is expressed, I'll summarize later. Paul Furbacher pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu
From: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Read error while installing Date: 18 Feb 1994 11:59:17 GMT Organization: Institut de Physiologie, Universite de Lausanne Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8561] Message-ID: <2k2ail$7k8@cisun2000.unil.ch> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. On some floppy drives (DEC PC MTe and others) we get read errors while trying to boot from the installation disk. On another disk drive all together it works fine. Anybody have any ideas what the problem is? It basically says: NEXTSTEP Bootstrap v. ..Read Error Hints? Thanks- Sean L. Hill Institut de Physiologie / Universite de Lausanne Rue du Bugnon, 7 CH-1005 Lausanne SWITZERLAND E-mail: Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch NEXTMAIL: hill@iisnext1.unil.ch
From: Kris Magnusson <kris@alpine.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does anyone lease NeXTStep laptops? Date: 17 Feb 1994 08:21:52 -0800 Organization: Alpine Computing MicroAge NEXTSTEP and Unix Sales Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k05j0$64m@magnusson.alpine.com> References: <1994Feb9.220900.367@agog.com> In article <1994Feb9.220900.367@agog.com> greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) writes: > I would like to lease a laptop for a few months with 3.2 preloaded. > Does anyone know of a company that leases such a machine? We do short term leases of NEXTSTEP products. ....................................krisy that leases such a machine? We do short term leases of NEXTSTEP products. -- Kristopher Magnusson +1 800 748 4558 NEXTSTEP and UNIX SALES NeXTmail <kris@alpine.com> ``You're dead, all of you! Frank Sinatra, testifying at Dead, dead, dead!'' a Senate hearing on the Mafia
From: Kris Magnusson <kris@alpine.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Naked Gecko Date: 17 Feb 1994 08:26:29 -0800 Organization: Alpine Computing MicroAge NEXTSTEP and Unix Sales Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k05rl$65k@magnusson.alpine.com> References: <2jktuk$1gm@nagasena.muc.de> In article <2jktuk$1gm@nagasena.muc.de> kay@nagasena.tynet.sub.org (Kay Schulz) writes: > Hi > I heard from a bird saying that it is possible to get a Geckjo naked, this means without monitor, Ram and Harddisk. These things from third No, it isn't. Unfortunately. .......................kris Schulz) writes: > Hi > I heard from a bird saying that it is possible to get a Geckjo naked, this means without monitor, Ram and Harddisk. These things from third No, it isn't. Unfortunately. .......................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson +1 800 748 4558 NEXTSTEP and UNIX SALES NeXTmail <kris@alpine.com> ``You're dead, all of you! Frank Sinatra, testifying at Dead, dead, dead!'' a Senate hearing on the Mafia
From: Kris Magnusson <kris@alpine.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Date: 17 Feb 1994 09:11:31 -0800 Organization: Alpine Computing MicroAge NEXTSTEP and Unix Sales Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k08g3$6do@magnusson.alpine.com> References: <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2jp0hf$8e0@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: <munch> > Is there any reason to ever boot real DOS/Windows again? > -Karl Yes. 1) FileMaker Pro. My version of FMP crashes SoftPC consistently. That really ticks me off. I have all of my quotation mechanism in FMP on my PowerBook, and I was really looking forward to putting it on my Alpine NX box on my desk and throwing that PB as far as it can glide. 2) That helicopter game called "Comanche." Doesn't work under SoftPC. Also, many games just won't run under SoftPC. I suppose if you're one of Those People who don't play games, this doesn't matter to you. 3) AutoCAD V. 12 for Windows. Doesn't work under SoftPC. This is what REALLY ticks me off. Alpine has a legacy of custom GIS apps running under Windows and SunOS 4.1.3 using AutoCAD as a mapping engine. My proposal to port Alpine's Visual Information System to NEXTSTEP went right down the toilet. And the toilet's not going to regurgitate that one until Autodesk ports AutoCAD V. 12 to NEXTSTEP. I'm not holding my breath, though I think GIS applications are one of the untapped markets for custom applications development tools. 4) To its credit, Solitaire works great! -- Kristopher Magnusson +1 800 748 4558 NEXTSTEP and UNIX SALES NeXTmail <kris@alpine.com> ``You're dead, all of you! Frank Sinatra, testifying at Dead, dead, dead!'' a Senate hearing on the Mafia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) Subject: Re: PD DSP-port TTY Project Message-ID: <7615854041686@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov Organization: /usr/local/lib/organization References: <2k0j0v$1hi@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <2k11mr$83j@inxs.concert.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:30:04 GMT In article <2k11mr$83j@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com writes: >IT IS >AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT, AND VERY WELL DONE but until DSPs become a cost-effective >reality on the Intel side, why waste your money or your time trying to write >it? Speaking of TTYDSP, does anyone have current contact info for them? I tried sending mail of to yrrid.com (I seem to remember they're the ones doing it, tho I could be wrong) but never got a reply or a bounce. --bob
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD DSP-port TTY Project Date: 18 Feb 1994 16:04:31 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k2ouf$lct@inxs.concert.net> References: <7615854041686@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> In article <7615854041686@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes: > > Speaking of TTYDSP, does anyone have current contact info for them? I tried > sending mail of to yrrid.com (I seem to remember they're the ones doing > it, tho I could be wrong) but never got a reply or a bounce. > You may contact yrrid at: niall@yrrid.com or yrrid@world.std.com or niall@absystems.com Thanks, Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: FTP Site for HP Gecko Info Message-ID: <2k2lj8$kcb@inxs.concert.net> Date: 18 Feb 94 15:07:20 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT The site is: raphael.acpub.duke.edu (anonymous) /pub/incoming/HP.Gecko.tar.Z Please focus your attentions in that direction! Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lloyd@world.std.com (Christopher Lloyd) Subject: Re: PD DSP-port TTY Project Message-ID: <CLFK5C.76x@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <2k0j0v$1hi@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <2k11mr$83j@inxs.concert.net> <7615854041686@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:19:59 GMT In article <7615854041686@raptor.mcs.anl.gov> olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes: >In article <2k11mr$83j@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com writes: >>IT IS AN EXCELLENT PRODUCT, AND VERY WELL DONE but until DSPs become a >>cost-effective reality on the Intel side, why waste your money or your time >>trying to write it? > >Speaking of TTYDSP, does anyone have current contact info for them? I tried >sending mail of to yrrid.com (I seem to remember they're the ones doing >it, tho I could be wrong) but never got a reply or a bounce. yrrid.com is fairly recent, and was prone to burpage when it was first up, it's doing fine now :). Our current info is: Yrrid Incorporated 507 Monroe Street Chapel Hill, NC 27516 (919) 968-7858 (919) 968-7856 (fax) info@yrrid.com 1-800-443-0065 and you can reach me (developer, support et al) directly at: lloyd@world.std.com or lloyd@yrrid.com Chris -- :: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid, Inc. :: lloyd@yrrid.com lloyd@world.std.com :: :: If I had known it was harmless, I would have killed it myself ::
From: markpam@grafton.dartmouth.edu (Mark Sheingorn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: memory on turbo nextstation (ram, 16mb) Date: 18 Feb 1994 17:26:06 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Message-ID: <2k2tne$1nt@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> References: <2jc3cr$e9f@news.service.uci.edu> <2jfupf$4nu@gyda.ifi.uio.no> hi can anyone reccomend a vendor in the $1000 range for 16mb ram for a turbocolor nextation? thanks for any advice!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: lyubomir@cs.buffalo.edu (Alexandrov L Lyubomir) Subject: Intel vs. Motorola NeXtstep CDs Message-ID: <CLFLwB.F34@acsu.buffalo.edu> Followup-To: lyubomir@pegaus.cs.buffalo.edu Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:57:45 GMT Hi, I might be able to acquire a NeXTstation color slab (25MhZ, 16MB). However, there is no NeXT step on it. I have the 3.1 NeXTstep for Intel CD and the 3.2 upgrade for Intel CD, but cannot boot with either. Do I need a specail motorola NeXTstep CD or do I just need a special boot floppy disk? Thank you. Does the same hold for the NeXT Step Developer 3.1 and 3.2? (Do I need a special Motorola version for that or can I use a NeXT Step Developer CD for Intel) Thank you again. Lyubomir Alexandrov lyubomir@pegasus.cs.buffalo.edu (312)-728-9394 - home
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! In-Reply-To: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA's message of Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:44:10 GMT Message-ID: <HUGH.94Feb18142245@hodain.ci.net> Sender: hugh@hodain.ci.net (Hugh Secker-Walker) Organization: JTA References: <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:22:45 GMT kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes: Hi, is there some way to turn OFF the NeXT Laser printer attached to my cube, via software? There MUST be, but I haven't the foggiest clue how. It can at least be turned on via software, because it only turns on after a lot of the boot process.. But I can't figure out which program turns it on. I use a shell script which gets run 4-times per hour at my site. Here's the crontab.local entry: # shutdown printer, 4 times an hour 1,16,31,46 * * * * root /usr/local/adm/np0-off >/dev/console 2>&1 And the script, which derives from an old csh script which has batted around the net. It is installed in /usr/local/adm/np0-off, but could be anywhere, as long as crontab.local gets it right. #!/bin/sh -u # # Turn off the local NeXTprinter if it has been idle. # Graceful even if no printer has ever been attached. # # This should be called from crontab.local every 15 minutes or so. # It saves information using a touchfile and turns off printer # on the second consecutive indication that it is idle. # This delay prevents the printer from powering down # if the printer is being used regularly but the # queue happens to be empty the first time this is called. # # By Hugh Secker-Walker, hugh@hodain.ci.net # Influenced by a csh-script by someone else which I've since lost. # # The touchfile must be removed at boot time by rc.local if printer # should turn off after machine boots. # # touchfile can live anywhere, remember to change rc.local too touchfile=/usr/local/adm/np0-off.time # gfind is the gnu find, from ftp from prep.ai.mit.edu # regular old find should work? find=/usr/local/bin/gfind nppower=/usr/etc/nppower npspool=/usr/spool/NeXT/Local_Printer lock=${npspool}/lock # off string for touchfile tflag=off # Quit if no spooling directory. if [ ! -d $npspool ]; then exit 0 fi # if a lock and touchfile exist, and lock is newer, remove out-of-date touchfile if [ -f $lock -a -f $touchfile ]; then if [ "`$find $lock -newer $touchfile -print`" ]; then rm -f $touchfile fi fi # if there are control files, remove out-of-date touchfile and quit for now if [ "`$find $npspool -name 'cf*' -print`" ]; then rm -f $touchfile exit 0 fi # if there is a touchfile and it does not say $tflag, turn off the printer if [ -f $touchfile ]; then # this causes a 1 np0-off-cycle delay if [ "`cat $touchfile`" != "$tflag" ]; then # prevents repeat offing $nppower off echo $tflag > $touchfile fi else # prepare the touchfile for the next cycle touch $touchfile fi exit 0 -- Hugh Secker-Walker | hugh@hodain.ci.net (NeXTmail ok) Perceptual Acoustics | hugh@ear.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: synchronicity!sjb (Stephen John Bottas) Subject: LipService and my cube Message-ID: <1994Feb17.164148.284@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Keywords: microphone Sender: sjb@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:41:48 GMT I'm having trouble making my LipService work on my NeXT Dimension. I have an older mono monitor with the microphone jack in the back. Is there a reason why I can't just hook a mic in there and use LipService in my messages within my network as usual? I'd be interested to know if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks, your time is appreciated. Steve
From: sean@alpine.com (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Crud: A New Idea for NeXTSTEP Date: 17 Feb 1994 16:28:05 -0800 Organization: Disorganization Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> (Apology in advance:) I may have posted this a few times. If so,I'm sorry. I don't know if I have or not, because until yesterday my newsreader was, um, having fun at my expense. While expanding a sound editor I write, I came across the sudden desire to allow users to batch up the wide variety of odd little things the editor can do into one coherent integrated thing, possibly adding in the capabilities of other programs, to complete a large and complex task. Unfortunately, I had no access to an easily-embeddable macro language object, and even if I did (say, I wrote my own), I would have no easy way of controlling *other* programs with this user-level language. It was this need that is driving me to develop Crud. Crud is proof-of-concept of not only the desperate need for a system-wide, made-for-NeXTSTEP macro language, but of the amazing things NeXT's highly consistent development system can offer users of just such a language, especially when compared to similar attempts like REXX, tcl, Perl, AppleScript, and the great Evil (Visual Basic). About Crud Crud is a specification of two things: a very simple, very small programming language, and a protocol suite that enables participating applications to connect to one or more Crud interpreters and libraries. Because NeXTSTEP is so consistent, this spec is really all that is needed to establish a living Crud community. As long as Crud-compliant interpreters are around, amazing things can happen. In fact, as long as the protocol stays the same, the marcro language can change and still keep applications "compliant". The prototype language is a hybrid of (get this) Lisp and Hypertalk, borrowing useful features of each. It's quite tiny (about 8 keywords), with a very easy-to-learn, easy-to-parse syntax. I've done the grammar and am working on finishing an interpreter object (though it's a tough job--anyone want to help?) which developers could hook into applications to make it easy for users to extend the apps' power. The protocol works something like this: An application instantiates an interpreter object. It then registers various Obj-C methods with the interpreter, so that if Crud programs reference some function name, the app's Obj-C method is called with appropriate arguments. The app then, through a Text object or whatnot, allows users to submit Crud programs and run them on the interpreter by calling some function (Crud is event-driven; it has no main loop). Crud Obj-C method libraries could be distributed on the net, even dynamically loaded by participating apps, to greatly increase the power of an application. One very important library (eventually) would allow one crud interpreter to contact other interpreters in participating apps to provide IAC on a grand scale. Another library (unwritten as yet, of course) could let Crud programs run and control non-compliant apps through NeXT events, much like Simon Says does it. Why not tcl or REXX? I think that NeXTSTEP needs at _least_ a new way of integrating a macro language, if not a new language altogether. tcl seems to me to be too steeped in X, and REXX too command-line based. We need something that fits beautifully with the GUI and the object system. Crud (or a language like it) is designed with NeXT's event system, object design, and main language in mind. This is open to discussion, of course! Perhaps we should go with a language more "accepted" by other communities for cross-environment compatibility. But in the mean time, while other projects are brewing (the WavesWorld tcl is cool) I'm here to ask if anyone would like to work on the Crud project. What's left to do? 1) Crud parses functions and globals into dictionaries, then interprets them as they are called. The parser is done (works great), but the interpreter is still in the design-and-layout stage. 2) Crud's standard function library, a collection of Obj-C methods that provide mundane functions like + or = or print, is mostly finished but for an earlier, outdated Crud protocol. The function library needs to be updated, finished, polished, and expanded. And debated. Remember that this library is symmetrical with an application's on functions; it can be used or substituted with something better. 3) Parts or Crud's spec are still shabby (in particular, it has no arrays). 4) Crud communicates with methods through a [target selector:argument] call, where the argument is a custom object that holds strings (basically a souped-up char**). This is because perform: requires ids, Char** is not really an option! :-( But this has yet more disadvantages: perform: requires a specific argument set, which makes it difficult to submit common method forms like setTo:(int)this or takeFloatValueFrom:sender, which are vital to making Crud easily integrated into applications. The obvious solution: make a category for Object that allows more sophsiticated message-passing than perform: and forward:. Current state: not even started. So there's things to do! I'd be much obliged to anyone who'd like to contribute to the project. Likewise, I'd like to open the table for dialog. What would you like to see in a system like this? Is it worthwhile? How could it benefit this community? I'll be honest here--I see Crud, or a language like it, as putting dramatically more power in the hands of NS users; potentially enough to make the computer community turn a few heads. Thanks for your time. If I get enough interest, I'll set up a small email group for discussion, perhaps. Please reply to the address below... Sean Luke -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke milk:-cows. | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu (if (cows) 'milk) | | if only I spoke for Alpine... [milk set:[cows val]]; |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) Subject: Re: ND Questions Message-ID: <CLFtzw.62E@mail.auburn.edu> Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator) Organization: Auburn University References: <1994Feb17.050516.29282@cs.cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 20:52:43 GMT William E. Aitken (aitken@cs.cornell.edu) wrote: : I am now the owner of a NeXTdimension board. Now I need some help : getting it up and running. : 1) What specifications must a monitor meet to be successfully used : with the ND? These are the specs listed on the ancient sheet NeXT handed out years ago about their monitor/ND combinations: MegaPixel 17" Color Display: 16" viewable (true flat square) 1120 x 832 resolution at 92 dpi 68 Hz refresh rate, non interlaced 0.26 mm dot pitch Silica Anti-reflection coatring Tilt and swivel stand .... weight 50.6 lbs connector: 13W3-style triple coaxial The 21" is much the same, save the size difference resulting in these changes: 75 dpi, 0.28 dot pitch, and 75.9lbs (carry this one with a hand truck!) I think the important facts out of here are the 1) 68 Hz refresh rate, non interlaced 2) 13W3-style coaxial connector : 2) Does anyone have any specific monitor recommendations? I've heard of people using Sony and Nanao monitor, and various multisync ones as well, but I can't speak to it from personal experience : 3) Where can I get a cable to connect the board to the monitor? Try Sam at Spherical Solutions or Jim Mooseman in Virginia. If you need the addresses I can get them for you. : 4)What do I have to ask for? Hmmm. I can use my own cable as a guide and perhaps give you a pin - by - pin description. Try to find a real one first, though. : 5) How much memory should I put in? My dad has 8MB in his, and I have 16MB in mine. I recommend the 16MB configuration, as there seems to be less time spent waiting in large image operations : 6) What if I put in less? 8MB works, but I don't think you can go any lower. The RAM in the ND must be put in banks of 4, for what reason I don't know, but if you don't, the board will not init properly. : 7) do 8 MB SIMMS _really_ work? I wish I had an answer to this one. Probably not. The spec sheet says the memory on the ND board is 8 to 32 MB. This tends to imply that you can have 1,2, or 4MB simms only. I've already has the experience of having a vendor tell me "Oh, yeah, the cube will take 16MB RAMs" only to have to return them with the attendant delay in credit reimbursement. I wouldn't bother with more than 32MB ram. Judging by the performance jump for 8 to 16, any more than 32 might be overkill. I may swap in some memory from another board and report on how 32mb works later :) : 8) is there an FAQ somewhere that has more info in it about the ND : than the ``standard'' FAQ? : --- Thanks in advance : --- Bill. No problem. Hope it helps. Do you or anybody out there want to form a sort of informal group of people interested in programming/using the ND board. I know I do! - Bill Seng (yeah, same first name)
From: guest@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Guest Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ND Questions Date: 18 Feb 1994 22:52:04 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k3gqk$def@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <CLFtzw.62E@mail.auburn.edu> Keywords: NeXTdimension In article <CLFtzw.62E@mail.auburn.edu> sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) writes: > William E. Aitken (aitken@cs.cornell.edu) wrote: > > : I am now the owner of a NeXTdimension board. Now I need some help > : getting it up and running. > [...some deletions for brevity...] > : 5) How much memory should I put in? > > My dad has 8MB in his, and I have 16MB in mine. I recommend the 16MB > configuration, as there seems to be less time spent waiting in large > image operations THE rule of thumb: the ND eats memory for breakfast, both RAM and swapfile space. More = Better. A lot of processing actually takes place on the motherboard, but the more RAM you have on theND the longer you postpone a trip to the swapfile. > : 6) What if I put in less? > > 8MB works, but I don't think you can go any lower. The RAM in the ND must > be put in banks of 4, for what reason I don't know, but if you > don't, the board will not init properly. Don't bother. 8 MB is barely enough to get off the ground, especially when you start using the board for digital video, 3D rendering, etc. Not sure why you must install memory in banks of 4. > : 7) do 8 MB SIMMS _really_ work? > > I wish I had an answer to this one. Probably not. The spec sheet says the > memory on the ND board is 8 to 32 MB. This tends to imply that you can > have 1,2, or 4MB simms only. I've already has the experience of having a > vendor tell me "Oh, yeah, the cube will take 16MB RAMs" only to have to > return them with the attendant delay in credit reimbursement. I wouldn't > bother with more than 32MB ram. Judging by the performance jump for 8 to > 16, any more than 32 might be overkill. I may swap in some memory from > another board and report on how 32mb works later :) The answer is YES. 8MB SIMMS can be installed, for a maximum of 64MB on the ND, and folks have done it, though this configuration was never officially blessed by NeXT. I probably is only useful if you're planning on having a LOT of windows open at he same time (then again, I do!) > : 8) is there an FAQ somewhere that has more info in it about the ND > : than the ``standard'' FAQ? > > : --- Thanks in advance > : --- Bill. Last summer i assembled a "NeXTdimension Compendium" for my own enjoyment, and wound up posting it to the Net. I still have it, and I'll gladly send you a copy, but first i've got to dig it out of the archives :-). > > No problem. Hope it helps. Do you or anybody out there want to form a > sort of informal group of people interested in programming/using the ND > board. I know I do! > > - Bill Seng (yeah, same first name) A capital idea! I'm game. I'm going to support the "ND Compendium" as a FAQ once i get regular Net access again (just left school). Ross Werner, on of the designers og= the ND, has posted occassionally to c.s.n.* As far a programming the i860, I doubt NeXT has released any info on how to do it. Maybe an organized effort could achieve results. I want to know for sure how NEXTIME will run on an ND! Best Regards, Steve Weintz EthnoGraphics indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu (I'm back!)
From: jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov(L J "Jim" Kiraly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ND Questions Date: 18 Feb 1994 23:07:34 GMT Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Message-ID: <2k3hnm$ap3@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> References: <CLFtzw.62E@mail.auburn.edu> William F. Seng writes > : 7) do 8 MB SIMMS _really_ work? > Yes, they work just fine: NeXTdimension Board in Slot 2: 64.0 Mbytes of DRAM ROM Version 43 Memory Controller step 1 i860 step B.2 JPEG hardware not installed NTSC Video hardware POST passed monitor connected -- __________________________________________________________________ Jim Kiraly- jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov- NASA Lewis Research Center ----------------- NeXT Mail preferred ----------------------------
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ND Questions Date: 18 Feb 1994 23:16:05 GMT Organization: E&S Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k3i7l$skd@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <CLFtzw.62E@mail.auburn.edu> > : 7) do 8 MB SIMMS _really_ work? > > I wish I had an answer to this one. Probably not. The spec sheet says the > memory on the ND board is 8 to 32 MB. This tends to imply that you can > have 1,2, or 4MB simms only. I've already has the experience of having a > vendor tell me "Oh, yeah, the cube will take 16MB RAMs" only to have to > return them with the attendant delay in credit reimbursement. I wouldn't > bother with more than 32MB ram. Judging by the performance jump for 8 to > 16, any more than 32 might be overkill. I may swap in some memory from > another board and report on how 32mb works later :) About two years ago, I actually saw and read a confidential NeXT internal memo on this. The memo was from the Hardware Engineering Dept., and was written to the Marketing Dept. The memo was basically a flame from Engineering to Marketing, flaming them for only listing memory for the ND board at maximum 32 MB in their spec sheet. They (the engineering people) were *very* specific in saying that it could handle 64MB using eight 8 MB SIMMS, and were a little upset that the spec sheet didn't specify this. Since then, I have seen numerous posts from people over the years that have tried 8 MB SIMMS, and have read their success stories. Consequently, I conclude that the spec sheet is in error, and the ND board can handle 64 MB RAM using 8 MB SIMMS, although I doubt more than 32 MB will really help you. Remember, there were once all kinds of glorious ND plans, with a lot of promise for fancy software taking advantage of the special ND features. Even NeXT's own ND display driver was once going to have all kinds of nifty abilities for concurrent use of the 68040 and Intel I860 (I was shown source code to one of the early Beta ND drivers, too). For the most part, the existing driver is nothing but a big, overgrown, empty shell for all the neat (but missing) functionality that was once planned. Had all of these plans materialized, I believe 64MB would have been quite useful, but considering the course of events as they actually happened, I doubt the typical ND owner would benefit from more than 32MB on the board (there's always the user that's the exception, though, and we just might hear from one or two in response to this :-) Don't get me wrong, here. Even though the ND board failed to deliver the grand dream, it is still an awesome piece of engineering quality in my opinion. No doubt about it-- NeXT made *good* hardware. Nevin
Organization: Arizona State University Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 14:23:08 MST From: <AGLXL@ASUACAD.BITNET> Message-ID: <94048.142308AGLXL@ASUACAD.BITNET> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: 5.25 FLOPPY Drives for Black Hardware? I am trying to locate 5.25 in floppies disk drives for Black Hardware. At one time there was a company listed called Dayna Communications, Inc. as well as another I believe who were providing such drives for CUBES. However, I don't recall or have any current information on these. Can anyone help in this search. I am interested in obtaining two of them.
From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Kodak ColorEase PS, anyone? Date: 19 Feb 1994 00:48:48 GMT Organization: Columbia University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k3nlg$74v@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> We just got a Kodak ColorEase PS printer. It is supposed to be a fine color printer. It is a PS II printer, so it should work with the NeXT. I cannot get it to work, though. Does anybody have such a machine? Set it up for the NeXT? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Columbia University, Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics |630 West 168th St. BB-221 | tel: (212)-305-6884, fax: 6926, NeXTmail |New York, NY 10032 | email: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Synchronous SCSI and NS Intel/ NS Moto Date: 19 Feb 1994 01:18:08 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k3pcg$2ch@agate.berkeley.edu> Do all SCSI controllers and NS Intel 3.2 work in synchronous mode SCSI? I ask this because, with Black NeXT hardware, the boot drive must have the synchoronous mode disabled via jumper on the drive. And I notice that some drives don't even have a jumper to turn off synchronous mode now. We've got a DEC 5200S 2.0GB drive (looked like the most inexpensive 2.0GB drive) and there is no jumper for truning off synchronous mode. It works fine, as we use this just to add more storage as sd3a, and b. But it is possible that, in not so distant future, you won't be able to get a replacement boot disk for the black hardware that easily. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: HP Gecko Specifications FTP Site Location Message-ID: <2k3rgt$1jn@inxs.concert.net> Date: 19 Feb 94 01:54:37 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Please make no more email requests to info@absystems.com as we have placed the Gecko docs at: raphael.acpub.duke.edu The documents are HP.Gecko.tar.Z in /pub/incoming. If you don't have FTP access, we'll fax the docs to you. Thanks Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu (James Goes) Subject: cd-rom drives Message-ID: <CL9y6o.J9r@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: goes Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 16:38:32 GMT We're writing a grant proposal for some upgrades to black hardware, and want to get a cd-rom drive. This would connect to an '030 cube most likely. I assume that cd-roms use the SCSI interface??? Anyway, would anyone have some advice on brand and a rough idea on price? We need to get some numbers and brand types into the proposal. Please respond directly. I'll summarize if there is interest. Thanks. *************************************************************** Jim Goes + InterNet: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu Health Management & Policy + (NeXTmail welcome!) School of Public Health + Phone: (612) 624-3118 University of Minnesota + FAX: (612) 624-3972 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mtaylor@alias.com (Michael Taylor) Subject: PowerPC's for NeXTStep Message-ID: <1994Feb18.163411.1015@alias.com> Sender: news@alias.com (News Owner) Organization: Alias Research Inc., Toronto ON Canada Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:34:11 GMT I have been looking into buying a computer system in about six months, preferably running NeXTStep. I am particularly interested in the potential of the new PowerPC machines on the horizon. I am surprised by the lack of discusion about these machines in this group. They have the potential to provide a good balance between the benifits of the Intel and HP systems. The PowerPC chip is currently cheaper than the Pentium in large quantities. It has performance in the same league as the low to mid range HP systems. The first IBM AIX system provides 62.6 SPECint92 and 72.2 SPECfp92 at 66mhz on a system with no external cache. Motorola estimates 85 SPECint92 and 105 SPECfp92 on future 80mhz systems with 1meg external cache. This is pretty good, even allowing a margin for optimism :-) And, this is just the PPC601. Also, the PowerPC machines will use the PCI bus which seems to be becoming popular on the Pentium machine. So, there will be common periferals. So, it should be posible to get workstation performace at PC prices. All we need are some clone manufactures to make PowerPC machines. Of course This assumes NeXTStep gets ported. NeXT should be getting pretty good at porting by now (Intel, HP, Sun). Quote from PowerPC faq: NextStep has been ported to the RS/6000 (POWER architecture), but is not commercially available. According to rumors, NextStep has been seen running on PowerPC machines. No official announcement has been made by Next as to availability. Sun has announced that it will incorporate OpenStep, a version of NextStep, in Solaris. Solaris has been demoed on PowerPC machines, so it is likely that OpenStep will also be available. Does anyone have any comments about NeXtStep and the PowerPC machines? Mike Taylor mtaylor@alias.com mataylor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
From: childc@tosh.cas.american.edu (Craig Child) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sysadmin Subject: DDS-2 DAT TAPE DRIVE Date: 17 Feb 1994 21:08:22 GMT Organization: The American University Computing Center Distribution: all Message-ID: <2k0mc6$hsl@paladin.american.edu> Has anyone tried to get a DDS-2 Dat Drive to work with 3.2 Currently there are three shipping models. HPC1533a,Conner(4326???), and Sony SDT-5000,and Wangtek DX4500. CRAIG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Q: Fax Standards Documentation? Message-ID: <1994Feb17.185640.16515@radical2.radical.com> Keywords: fax nextstep next Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 18:56:40 GMT I am curious as to what a Fax looks like from a modem driver viewpoint. My generic, unsupported by NEXTSTEP, FAX/modem has references in its user manual to some documentation of standards for FAX processing: Fax Service Class 1 (EIA/TIA 578) Fax Service Class 2 (proposed EIA/TIA 592) Fax Modem Processing (CCITT V.17, V.21, V.27ter, and V.29) Does anyone know what these documents describe or know where I might obtain a copy of them? Are they detailed enough to write a driver from? Curiosity killed the cat, or in this case, a few hours. :-) Thanks. -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: DDS-2 DAT TAPE DRIVE Message-ID: <CLEzMn.DwM@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <2k0mc6$hsl@paladin.american.edu> Distribution: all Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:56:46 GMT In article <2k0mc6$hsl@paladin.american.edu> childc@tosh.cas.american.edu (Craig Child) writes: > Has anyone tried to get a DDS-2 Dat Drive to work with 3.2 > Currently there are three shipping models. HPC1533a,Conner(4326???), > and Sony SDT-5000,and Wangtek DX4500. > CRAIG The Sony SDT-5000 and WangDat 3400 units both work with NS 3.2. The Sony unit also works correctly the SafetyNet backup software. There is no reason to doubt that any DDS-2 drive will have any problems as long as it support CCS SCSI -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP Gecko Specifications FTP Site Location Date: 19 Feb 1994 06:49:45 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k4cqa$5d8@inxs.concert.net> References: <2k3rgt$1jn@inxs.concert.net> In article <2k3rgt$1jn@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes: > Please make no more email requests to info@absystems.com as we have placed > the Gecko docs at: > raphael.acpub.duke.edu in /pub/incoming and at cs.orst.edu in /pub/next/submissions The documents are called HP.Gecko.tar.Z Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: SONY SMO-F521-00 Message-ID: <CLGus3.G8@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 10:07:14 GMT Hi, I am trying to get a SONY SMO-F521-00 (an MO-Drive with ~650 MB) to work with NEXTSTEP. Formatting through workspace fails. Trying 'disk -i' comes up with the following result: Daguerre:1# disk -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: SONY SMO-F521-00 disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 636881 3981 2 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: insufficient space in super block for rotational layout tables with nsect 3981 and ntrak 2. File system performance may be impaired. cylinder group too large (16 cylinders); max: 7 cylinders per group /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) Daguerre:2# By playing arround, I found out, that sending only the first number to mkfs works: Daguerre:2# /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 636881 Warning: 2048 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 3058 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 47 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 636881 sectors in 1244 cylinders of 16 tracks, 32 sectors 652.2Mb in 78 cyl groups (16 c/g, 8.39Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 16, 8240, 16464, 24688, 32912, 41136, 49360, 57584, 65808, 74032, 82256, 90480, 98704, 106928, 115152, 123376, 131088, 139312, 147536, 155760, 163984, 172208, 180432, 188656, 196880, 205104, 213328, 221552, 229776, 238000, 246224, 254448, 262160, 270384, 278608, 286832, 295056, 303280, 311504, 319728, 327952, 336176, 344400, 352624, 360848, 369072, 377296, 385520, 393232, 401456, 409680, 417904, 426128, 434352, 442576, 450800, 459024, 467248, 475472, 483696, 491920, 500144, 508368, 516592, 524304, 532528, 540752, 548976, 557200, 565424, 573648, 581872, 590096, 598320, 606544, 614768, 622992, 631216, Daguerre:3# Since this 'doesn't feel right', does somebody have an appropiate disktab-entry for this drive? And also, there is a second problem: in about 50% of all cases, when inserting the media, it gets spit out again after a short while. The console repeats this sequence several times: . . It seems, that the drive sometimes takes longer to get ready, than workspace is willing to accept. Any ideas how to fix that? Gerd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: ATI Ultra Pro (2meg) driver Message-ID: <CLGwMA.HBn@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 10:46:57 GMT There was recently a note from NeXT that a new driver from NeXT was available for the VL GUP. It's entry 1122. But while they say the driver is available, I can't seem to see it on ftp.next.com. As it is I can "only" get 16 bit colour in 10248x768 at 60Hz. No other options are available ( this is the driver from the 3.2 CD). Does anyone know how and where to get it? Thank's. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Kodak ColorEase PS, anyone? Message-ID: <CLGy9H.5rr@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <2k3nlg$74v@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 11:22:29 GMT In article <2k3nlg$74v@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes: > > We just got a Kodak ColorEase PS printer. It is supposed to > be a fine color printer. It is a PS II printer, so it should > work with the NeXT. I cannot get it to work, though. Does > anybody have such a machine? Set it up for the NeXT? > Choose unknown printer from the printmanager, parallel interface and it works. There is a problem with this and some other level II printers. If you choose to print 100% Yellow it will not print. You can avoid this be using the level 1 rendering model. The on-line doco shows how to do this. -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SONY CDU-33A drive: Anyone using this on a black NeXT? Date: 19 Feb 1994 18:31:31 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2k5lu3$l8n@wave.aoml.erl.gov> I just saw this on misc.forsale.computers.workstation and it says it has some type of proprietary controller. I dont know if it is a type of SCSI controller or what. Is anyone familiar with this? The price looks attractive at $189. FROM misc.forsale.computers.workstation SONY CDROM onsale SONY'S NEW DOUBLE SPEED CD ROM IS HERE! All of today's technology built-in with Sony's Solid reputation. In addition, it has been chossen as PC Magazine's Editors' Choice in the February 22, 1994 issue. **Average Seek Time: 320ms **Transfer Rate: 300kB/s The CDU-33A drive comes with a proprietary controller which eliminates many of the potential SCSI-systems headaches. Installation is very easy...only an unused port address is required. The SONY CDU-33A uses a power assisted loading/power-eject mechanism for a very smooth and reliable operation. Sony CDU-33A compatibility ==> Audio CD's ==> Photo CD's (both single and multi-session) ==> CD-ROM XA disks. WE ARE OFFERING THE SONY CDU-33A CD-ROM DRIVE FOR ONLY *****$189.00!**** THIS INCLUDES SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGES! ORIGINALLY posted by rcching@netcom.com -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Ram and colour problems solved on PC Message-ID: <CLHKz0.65r@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 19:33:00 GMT Since I received so many replies, I thought I would post a note regarding these. (1) In going from 16->20megs (and now 24) the CMOS settings changing and I had to set the cachable RAM address to 24 ( the amount or next highest number). Otherwise the NeXT (Intel) on the ISA slows to a halt! (2) The ATI Ultra Pro driver has been updated to support more choices, and the files can be gotten via nextanswers@next.com (e-mail with the #'s) or to looked in the numbered compressed section on ftp.next.com. Not in the system software section as suggested in the release. Also, not in the drivers section! Thank's to all who replied. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Message-ID: <1994Feb17.200743.3437@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com References: <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 20:07:43 GMT In article <CLDKD7.CKH@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: > In article <CLDI9M.BoH@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos > Odisseas) writes: > > Hi, is there some way to turn OFF the NeXT Laser printer attached to > > my cube, via software? There MUST be, but I haven't the foggiest clue > > how. It can at least be turned on via software, because it only > > turns on after a lot of the boot process.. But I can't figure out which > > program turns it on. > > Yes, it is called sleepprinter, available on the archives, works great. > > Cheers! > > --- > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | Antoine Gautier | > | Departement OSD, FSA | > | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | > +-------------------------------------------------------+ There is also a unix program called nppower that can be run from the terminal shell. You use it like this : /usr/etc/nppower on|off in other words you use the paramter "off" to turn the printer off and "on" to turn it on. The best thing about this is its included with the computer. hope this helps -- jerald dawson*Systems Manager / Head Programmer*Investor's Advantage NeXTmail-jerald@mrk.com |"To compel a man to furnish contributions of phone - (708) 487-3221|money for the propogation of opinions which he fax - (708) 526-3635|disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" Thomas Jefferson
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation Color Monitor Options? Date: 19 Feb 1994 19:16:44 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2k5ois$8sj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Feb16.223938.3796@afs.com> In article <1994Feb16.223938.3796@afs.com> Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com writes: > > What are my monitor replacement options for a NeXTstation Color machine, > besides buying a new or used 17" MegaPixel Color Display? The NextStation color will drive: Horz Scan Rate: 61 KHz Vertical Scan Rate: 68 Hz Resolution: 1120 x 832 NON-INTERLACED You can use any multisync monitor which will accept this resolution or greater (probably a 1280 x 1024 monitor) at a horizontal refresh rate equal to or greater than the colorstation's 68 Hz. You will need to get the connector that goes between the colorstation's NeXT-specific monitor plug and a standard BNC. My colorstation came with this connector, so I can't advise you on where to get it. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerPC's for NeXTStep Date: 19 Feb 1994 19:58:37 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <2k5r1e$1i2@umd5.umd.edu> References: <1994Feb18.163411.1015@alias.com> In article <1994Feb18.163411.1015@alias.com> mtaylor@alias.com (Michael Taylor) writes: >Quote from PowerPC faq: > > NextStep has been ported to the RS/6000 (POWER architecture), but > is not commercially available. According to rumors, NextStep has > been seen running on PowerPC machines. No official announcement > has been made by Next as to availability. > > Sun has announced that it will incorporate OpenStep, a version of > NextStep, in Solaris. Solaris has been demoed on PowerPC machines, > so it is likely that OpenStep will also be available. > >Does anyone have any comments about NeXtStep and the PowerPC machines? > Well, I have no valuable facts, but some comments. It is clear that NeXT has NEXTSTEP running on a dual PowerPC machine, and that some even use them for in-house development. As for why we haven't seen an announcement or port, I think that's pretty clear. How many PowerPCs are currently being sold? I think NeXT will announce a port after there's something to port to. Another thing to keep in mind is that you don't just port to a chip. The Intel stuff has taught us that. You port to an entire machine, and that includes the ROM/BIOS and controllers and peripherals, etc. So, NeXT needs the specs on those before they can start a port. Now, what I'd like to know is, who's PowerPC box did Sun demonstrate on? I'd suspect it was not one of Apple's. From what I have read, IBM has documented the architecture of their PowerPC machines, essentially creating a standard for those who wish to make clones. Apple (of course) turned up their noses at this and have created their own proprietary architecture, including, most importantly, the ROMs, so other hardware companies STILL cannot easily build a machine to run their software. I don't know how hard that makes porting ANOTHER operating system to Apple's machines, but it might discourage NeXT from doing so. I sure hope not, though, as far too many Apple PowerPCs are being bought around here, and it would be nice to put them to good use. Finally, NeXT is going to be testing and fine tuning the HP and Sun ports into December, and OpenStep development will go on much longer. They may simply not have the bodies to do it in a timely fashion, although in that case I would hope they would hire more people. In any case, here's thanking NeXT for a great product, and hoping we'll see it on the PowerPC soon. Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Why does the optical drive keep spinning up and down? Date: 19 Feb 1994 22:15:58 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <2k632v$oii@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I'm working on an original NeXT cube which is now running NS2.1. We're finding that the optical drive keeps spinning down and back up, repeatedly. We notice that the problem is much worse on some disks, and that the drive behaves on others. And we recently had the drive cleaned. From the messages on the console (which I can't include here, unfortunately, since I'm on a different machine now), it seems that the drive is repeatedly failing to read some data, and then spinning down and back up. The drive eventually seems to read the info, but the spinning down and up makes things s l o w. Has anyone else experienced this of problem? Since the problem seems disk-dependent, could it be caused by dirty / abused disks? David Finton
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: patrick@idyll.com Subject: Re: ND Questions Message-ID: <CLHCv3.Ay@idyll.com> Keywords: ND, RAM Sender: phickey@idyll.com (Patrick T. Hickey) Organization: Idyll Communications, literally References: <2k3i7l$skd@cnn.sim.es.com> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 16:37:51 GMT In article <2k3i7l$skd@cnn.sim.es.com> npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) writes: > > > : 7) do 8 MB SIMMS _really_ work? > > I wouldn't > > bother with more than 32MB ram. Judging by the performance jump for 8 to > > 16, any more than 32 might be overkill. I may swap in some memory from > > another board and report on how 32mb works later :) > About two years ago, I actually saw and read a confidential NeXT internal > memo on this. The memo was from the Hardware Engineering Dept., and was > written to the Marketing Dept. > > The memo was basically a flame from Engineering to Marketing, flaming them > for only listing memory for the ND board at maximum 32 MB in their spec sheet. > They (the engineering people) were *very* specific in saying that it could > handle 64MB using eight 8 MB SIMMS, and were a little upset that the spec > sheet didn't specify this. > > Since then, I have seen numerous posts from people over the years that > have tried 8 MB SIMMS, and have read their success stories. > > Don't get me wrong, here. Even though the ND board failed to deliver > the grand dream, it is still an awesome piece of engineering quality > in my opinion. No doubt about it-- NeXT made *good* hardware. > > Nevin > > Rest assured, the ND board accepts 8mb SIMMS all the way to 64mb. I've been running with that configuration for quite a long time. The documentation was simple Marketing ignorance, since the actual text predates the practical existence of 8mb SIMMS by a fair block of time. Does the machine benefit from 64mb vs 32mb on the ND board? Absolutely, though not under all circumstances for the obvious reasons. If you do any amount of image manipulation, particularly multiple images, the machine is peceptably faster with more ND RAM. The real issue has always been RAM on the mother board and the issue of swap space, etc..neither of which has anything to do with the ND/RAM stuff.I'd always stuff the mother board before dealing with the ND...always. The coolest configurations I ever saw were three-headed ND systems with the monitors displayed in a horizontal array. Imagine three 21" monitors and a workspace with that amount of real estate. Did NeXT make * good * hardware? Folks, our engineering group made the best hardware and some of it never left the labs. patrick
From: james@aleph.ee.ualberta.ca (James Strohschein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help: slow hard drive transfer rate Keywords: Fujitsu, hard drive, performance Message-ID: <1994Feb19.194802.13497@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: 19 Feb 94 19:48:02 GMT Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada I tested the speed of my hard drives using DrivePerformance, and am puzzled by the results - the read rate on the Fujitsu is surprisingly low. write read (kB/sec) Quantum 105 (100MB) 510 500 Fujitsu 2624 (520MB) 980 400 DrivePerformance documentation suggests that typical performance of these drives (hardware unspecified) is write read (kB/sec) Quantum 105 (100MB) 450 470 Fujitsu 2624 (520MB) 810 690 So my Quantum drive performs as expected, but not the Fujitsu. Any idea why the discrepancy between read rate and write rate on my Fijitsu is so large? Any suggested remedies? Hardware is NeXTstation mono (25 MHz, 20 MB), running NS3.2. Quantum drive (512 B blocks) has 45 MB available, the Fujitsu (1024 B blocks) has 160 MB available. Thanks. --- James Strohschein (403) 492-4935 (voice) james@aleph.ee.ualberta.ca (403) 492 -1181 (fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Subject: EISA Ethernet cards supported Message-ID: <CLHtxr.5nH@lysis.ch> Sender: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Organization: Lysis Institute of Research, Lausanne Switzerland Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 22:46:37 GMT Hi How does the EISA 3COM Ethernet adapter works? The ISA 3COM doesn t satisfy me at all... What other EISA Ethernet cards are supported with NS? Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch>(NeXTmail ok) LYSIS S.A. Cotes de Montbenon 8 CH-1003 LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND Tel. ++ 41 21 - 312 91 91 Fax. ++ 41 21 - 312 93 43
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Subject: EISA 1740 Adaptec SCSI card Message-ID: <CLHu8B.5oo@lysis.ch> Sender: lien@lysis.ch (Lien Pham) Organization: Lysis Institute of Research, Lausanne Switzerland Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 22:52:58 GMT Hi Is someone working on a driver for the Adaptec 1740 EISA adapter? Lien PHAM <lien@lysis.ch>(NeXTmail ok) LYSIS S.A. Cotes de Montbenon 8 CH-1003 LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND Tel. ++ 41 21 - 312 91 91 Fax. ++ 41 21 - 312 93 43
From: cko@wald.hnv.icem.de (Carsten Koch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT hangs when sound is played. Date: 19 Feb 1994 21:37:36 GMT Organization: ICEM Systems GmbH Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k60r0INN1d7@wald.hnv.icem.de> A friend of mine who is currently visiting brought his 25 MHz color NeXTstation over which has the following problem: It hangs during the SoundOut power-on test. If you disable that test, it hangs when you try to play sound for the first time (no matter what program you use to play the sound). By "hangs" I mean that it is totally autistic (i.e. nmi monitor comes up, but is unable to reboot or power off the system. The only way to power it off is to unplug it). Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong or how we could go about to fix that problem? Please E-Mail any response, as our news batches come in only once a day. -- +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Carsten Koch E-Mail: carsten.koch@icem.de | | ICEM Systems GmbH Phone: +49-4286-1513 | | Waldsiedlung 7 Fax: +49-4286-1608 | | 27404 Elsdorf-Hatzte, Germany | +---------------------------------------------------------+
From: kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Naked Gecko Date: 19 Feb 1994 08:43:31 GMT Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k4jfj$4ki@nagasena.muc.de> References: <2k05rl$65k@magnusson.alpine.com> In article <2k05rl$65k@magnusson.alpine.com> Kris Magnusson > > No, it isn't. Unfortunately. > > .......................kris > SHIT I hoped they will do it to make it easier for users of other PCs. I can't buy a complete GECKO but I could and want to buy a naked one. I have HD and Monitor and so on
From: kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NG bug??? Date: 19 Feb 1994 08:44:58 GMT Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group Message-ID: <2k4jia$4kj@nagasena.muc.de> Hi I can't post with NG. An error messages arise when I write a followup e.g. which says: Posting failed '"d ' or something like this
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) Subject: Failure to install NSFIP Message-ID: <boonlow.761681292@sfu.ca> Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news) Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 18:08:12 GMT Hey guys, I have problem with installation of NSFIP 3.2 Plz help or offer me some advice if possible. I have bought NSFIP for 2 months !! already and still couldn't get it install due to one reason or another, sign ...:-( My System --------- AIR VESA motherboard 1 Western Digital IDE 340mb harddrive 1 Seagate SCSI ST31200 1 gig+ harddrive. NEC CDR 84-1 on id-5 scsi harddrive on id-0 and DPT PM 2021/90 SCSI controller on id-7 both the DPT and NEC are terminated at both ends and the harddrive is in the middle ATI Ultra Vesa w/2mb vram PAS studio sound card but I took it out while trying to install NSFIP My system has 32mb ram My Seagate SCSI harddrive is partition 500mb for DOS to try it out. The other 500mb is unused. I have Corel SCSI and my whole set up works well under DOS, Windows 3.1 and OS/2 2.1 Problems -------- Okay, I disable and took out the cable for my 51/4 b drive, also disabled in the bios. I boot the system up with installation diskette and CD in the NEC cdrom drive. reach (1) select english... (2) continue without loading additional drivers ... problem starts... :-(( The screen and this messages comes out --------------------------------------- resetting SCSI bus Eata controller at irq 15 registering irq15 ( it should be for my DPT controller ) sd0 : disk not ready type 1 to install NeXTSTEP (1) IDE disk #1 io-status=13, scsi-status=8, sense key=0 too many tries cd-rom disk could not be used installation cannot continue that's all, folks, sign... From then on, system will stop. I try to change interrupt, IO address e.t.c on my DPT card, and two days with this hell, I am still stuck with the same message. My WD IDE is on a AT controller, could that pose a problem ? Please help me guys, I try everything and nothing works, call tech-support and got no replies from now. Regards, Ben. (604) 420-3176
From: hugh%furuike.UUCP@tanuki.twics.com (Hugh Ashton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Conner CP30540 as internal disk on NeXTstation Date: 20 Feb 1994 00:36:03 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402192356.AA00411@furuike> I've currently got a Seagate ST1480 (Rev 7336) as the internal hard disk in a turbo NeXTstation, and a Conner CP50540 (3.5 Rev) as an external disk. Since the Conner's faster, and has 256kB of cache on the controller, it would be nice to make it the internal system boot disk. Does anyone know of any good/bad experiences with using one of these drives as an internal disk? Since I bought it in an enclosure, I have no pinouts for jumper settings for termination, SCSI ID, etc. for this drive (nor for the Seagate, of course). If anyone has these, I'd be more than grateful. I'm afraid my news server is erratic at best, so please reply by e-mail to: hugh@furuike.twics.com Many thanks +-----------------------------------------------------------+ \ Hugh Ashton, Hamamatsu-shi, Koike-cho 1581-1 \ \ Station Heights 4-209, JAPAN. \ \ Tel/Fax:(+81)-53-466-1264 \ +-----------------------------------------------------------+ \ NeXTMail preferred \ \ "It's UNIX, Jim, but not as we know it." \ \ If address is mangled, reply to: hugh@furuike.twics.com \ +-----------------------------------------------------------+
From: cbaur@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Christian Baur) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.2 on NEC Versa: need HD info... Date: 20 Feb 1994 09:16:36 +0100 Organization: Home of BlackLabel Message-ID: <2k7694$7h4@blabel.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <2jrke3$9ld@infmx.informix.com> <CLB9EM.Jv7@festival.ed.ac.uk> >In article <2jrke3$9ld@infmx.informix.com>, alexk@informix.com (Alexander Koerner) writes: >|> Are there any other sources for removable NEC Versa HDs besides NEC??? >|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >|> I heard that they (NEC) are using either Seagate and/or Conner drives... > We use a Toshiba MK23* , 340MB, 2.5", 12ms (I don't remember the correct type but I can look it up...) together with the removable tray from NEC. NSfIP on the Toshiba and MS-DOS on the Seagate 180MB (supplied with the NEC) runs fine. Just change the drives and you can switch to another operating system. The drive parames can be adjusted with the userdefinable disk drive entry. cb -- [Christian Baur, Muenchen-Germany | A quick self destruct from the 21st floor] [cbaur@informatik.uni-muenchen.de | A smell of gas through the kitchen door]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro From: dbritch@hume.super.org (David B. Ritch) Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) In-Reply-To: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu's message of 17 Feb 94 09:58:51 Message-ID: <DBRITCH.94Feb19025717@hume.super.org> Sender: news@super.org (USENET News System) Organization: Supercomputing Research Center, Bowie MD, USA References: <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <2jujhh$3qa@usenet.rpi.edu> <MCGLK.94Feb17095851@yang.cpac.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 07:57:17 GMT In article <MCGLK.94Feb17095851@yang.cpac.washington.edu> mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes: [...] >Well, as I mentioned in the rather long followup I just posted, DEC says that >their problems are now over in that regard, and they're caught up. Meaning >that lead times on most machines are down to 14 days again. In fact, for many >of the XL configurations, they're down to seven days or less. It seems to me that the lead time is the least of the problems mentioned. Not returning calls, apparently lying about lead times, and screwing up the order in general are more difficult to work with.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: Crud: A New Idea for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <1994Feb20.155930.13691@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 15:59:30 GMT In article <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> sean@alpine.com (Sean Luke) writes: > Crud is proof-of-concept of not only the desperate need for a system-wide, > made-for-NeXTSTEP macro language, but of the amazing things NeXT's highly > consistent development system can offer users of just such a language, > especially when compared to similar attempts like REXX, tcl, Perl, AppleScript, > and the great Evil (Visual Basic). > > > About Crud > Just a marketing point here, but Crud is slang for "crap" or "shit" in the UK. As in the phrase, "thats a pile of old crud". -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT hangs when sound is played. Date: 20 Feb 1994 19:21:57 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k8d8l$fm8@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <2k60r0INN1d7@wald.hnv.icem.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <2k60r0INN1d7@wald.hnv.icem.de> cko@wald.hnv.icem.de (Carsten Koch) writes: > > A friend of mine who is currently visiting brought his > 25 MHz color NeXTstation over which has the following problem: > > It hangs during the SoundOut power-on test. If you disable that > test, it hangs when you try to play sound for the first time (no > matter what program you use to play the sound). By "hangs" I mean > that it is totally autistic (i.e. nmi monitor comes up, but > is unable to reboot or power off the system. The only way to power > it off is to unplug it). > > Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong or how we could > go about to fix that problem? > > Please E-Mail any response, as our news batches come in only > once a day. > > > > -- > > +---------------------------------------------------------+ > | Carsten Koch E-Mail: carsten.koch@icem.de | > | ICEM Systems GmbH Phone: +49-4286-1513 | > | Waldsiedlung 7 Fax: +49-4286-1608 | > | 27404 Elsdorf-Hatzte, Germany | > +---------------------------------------------------------+ Try using a different soundbox. Similar symptoms disappeared when I replaced mine. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 19 Feb 1994 21:11:03 -0500 Organization: Collins International Services Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k6grn$9c9@sgate.com> References: <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <2ju2mu$g7k@inxs.concert.net> <MCGLK.94Feb17095557@yang.cpac.washington.edu> Interesting that some folks are having lots of problems with some vendors. Please keep in mind that you can't judge a company by one incident, nor can you assume that because other folks have similar complaints that it's endemic to the whole company. My experience with DEC has been nothing but good. I plan on buying a DECxl PC this summer (if not sooner, but I *did* promise myself I'd pay off my credit card bills first...). This means more than you know, as I'm normally cursed with computer acquisitions and dealing with vendors in general. ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Consultants are mystical people who ask a company for a number and then give it back to them.
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other Subject: Want Turbo Color, Selling ND board Date: 20 Feb 1994 21:21:10 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2k8k86$hn8@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Hello. I am looking to buy a NeXT Turbo Color machine in any configuration without monitor. Non-ADB would be preferable but I am not that particular. On the other hand, I have a 16MB NeXTdimension NTSC board for sale, Asking $2000 or best offer (I'll let the board go for $1500 without the memory). I would definitely consider a trade situation. Email or call 512-476-8861 (ask for Alex) with your offers. Thank you. -- ============================================================================== Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable. If it's "Better Than The Leading X" then why isn't *IT* the leading X? ==============================================================================
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Crud: A New Idea for NeXTSTEP Date: 20 Feb 1994 21:33:24 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <2k8kv4$tr@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> <1994Feb20.155930.13691@xexos.com> In article <1994Feb20.155930.13691@xexos.com>, Mark Chamberlain <mark@xexos.com> wrote: >> About Crud >Just a marketing point here, but Crud is slang for "crap" or >"shit" in the UK. As in the phrase, "thats a pile of old crud". It has that sense here in the States, too, though I didn't know it until some worthy directed my attention to the dictionary. I had always used it as a (harmless) synonym for "junk." -- [Jess Anderson <> Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin] [Internet: anderson@doit.wisc.edu {o"o} UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson] [Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888] [-----------------> Hope is merely disappointment deferred. <-----------------]
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments Date: 21 Feb 1994 00:52:17 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2k90k1$ph1@digdug.pencom.com> References: <ROGOFF.94Feb17171617@sccm.Stanford.EDU> rian Rogoff writes: > Which NEC machine are you referring to? What is your configuration like? > Can any of these Pentium/PCI machines for running NS be had for < $7K > for a full system (32M RAM, 17" monitor, SCSI CDROM, ...)? > I really don't know if it's ready to ship... Some of the drivers still have to go through a lot of testing maybe... Call Paul Reed (508) 264-8061 and ask him about NEXTSTEP and Pentium systems. Ricardo
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments Date: 21 Feb 1994 01:01:59 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2k9167$dg5@digdug.pencom.com> References: <ROGOFF.94Feb17171617@sccm.Stanford.EDU> Rian Rogoff writes: > Which NEC machine are you referring to? What is your configuration like? > Can any of these Pentium/PCI machines for running NS be had for < $7K > for a full system (32M RAM, 17" monitor, SCSI CDROM, ...)? I really don't know if it's ready to ship... Some of the drivers still have to go through a lot of testing maybe... Call Paul Reed (508) 264-8061 and ask him about NEXTSTEP and Pentium systems. Their systems have the PCI Diamond Viper, Adaptec 6360, EtherExpress ethernet, IDE hard disk (500MB), Sound board, 3X spin CDROM, 16MB system memory with > 1.1 NXFactor in 16-bit color and 1.6 in 8-bit grayscale. Don't know 32-bit color. They told me the system runs for $3899 without a monitor and NEXTSTEP pre-installed. I did not pay for it so I can't say. I suggest you call them and find out... Ricardo J. Parada
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Please don't call Paul Reed at NEC (Was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 21 Feb 1994 01:55:42 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k94au$h44@inxs.concert.net> References: <2k9167$dg5@digdug.pencom.com> In article <2k9167$dg5@digdug.pencom.com> ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) writes: > I really don't know if it's ready to ship... Some of the drivers still > have to go through a lot of testing maybe... Call Paul Reed (508) 264-8061 > and ask him about NEXTSTEP and Pentium systems. Their systems have the > PCI Diamond Viper, Adaptec 6360, EtherExpress ethernet, IDE hard disk > (500MB), Sound board, 3X spin CDROM, 16MB system memory with > 1.1 > NXFactor in 16-bit color and 1.6 in 8-bit grayscale. Don't know 32-bit > color. They told me the system runs for $3899 without a monitor and > NEXTSTEP pre-installed. I did not pay for it so I can't say. I suggest > you call them and find out... > We are NEC-Authorized. PAUL REED at NEC has begged me to ask you people not to call him at NEC...I know Paul and he is not in NEC Sales. I queried him about the above-described machine (ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT EVEN SHIPPING) he advised me that their P60 (the machine described) which was shown at the Developer's Conference in Washington in January is not going to be any where near $3899.00 - again, NO WEAR NEAR $3899.00, probably in that configuration is going to price out near all of the other first-tier products (about $7,000). Aside from that, NEC is doing a lot with NeXTSTEP and some will ship and some won't, however the pre-installation of NeXTSTEP into NEC machines is an issue that nobody at NEC is willing to confirm or deny (right now it's a minimum of 100 units before they will hotload). If you need information on NEC product, feel free to email. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 20 Feb 1994 23:06:07 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2k9bvf$6po@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: ac@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Chou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT on 486/Pentium (FAQ?) Message-ID: <CLK47H.KEn@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 21 Feb 94 04:23:40 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Purdue University Computing Center (Please direct me to the right place if I'm posting on the wrong group :-)). Has anyone successfully installed NeXT on 486- or Pentium-based computers? What are the hardware requirements? Does NeXT have smooth performances on these computers? I'm also interested in installing LaTeX and FORTRAN compiler with NeXT, any suggestions? I'll post summaries if I have enough info. Thanks!! Alex Chou ac@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: DPMS Saving in NS? Message-ID: <CLK8xI.Gtu@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 06:05:41 GMT I am currently running NS3.2(Intel) using an ATI GUP. In Windows you can turn on a feature (DPMS) which will power down the monitor after a period of idle time. It appears to be activated by screen savers. Just anyone know how to do this while in NS? -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: ATI GUP Clips in 800x600 Message-ID: <CLK95J.H23@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 06:10:31 GMT Is there a reason why I get clipping ( screen noise when moving a window, like a horizontal pair of clippers) using an ATI VL GUP (2megs) at 800x600 (16bit) but not at 1024x768 (16bits) nor 1180x832 (16bits)? Does this occur with the #9 card (S3 based one)? Is 24 megs enough? -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextBook VLB portable Date: 21 Feb 1994 13:40:15 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <2kadjv$ot4@hp4at.eunet.co.at> This sounds very interesting. Does anyone have any experience with the hardware? Ordering something across the ocean does make one careful. >====================================================================== > > NSProducts introduces the NextBook VLB > Portable NEXTSTEP Notebooks > >====================================================================== >Based on the same model as the Intelligent >Notebook Systems VESABook series..... Thanks Alfred -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: audio@netmbx.netmbx.de (Audioland Medienproduktion GmbH) Subject: Driver for AHA-2740 and AHA-2840 Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 14:04:32 GMT Message-ID: <HO8LB51H@netmbx.netmbx.de> I am getting tomorrow the documents from adaptec which included the information i need for programming a driver for nextstep. That means hacking all week long, day and night. But maybe in the end of the week there will a alpha (beta) version of a driver. Bye, ALF. --------------------------- ALF Zimmermann Audioland International Telefonservice GmbH von Bargen Str. 32-36 22041 Hamburg Tel.: +49-40-6566912 Fax.: +49-40-6562279 audio@netmbx.netmbx.de
From: rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch (Ralph Michael Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: VL-Graphic Cards Date: 21 Feb 1994 16:05:59 GMT Organization: Improware AG, Fuellinsdorf, Switzerland Message-ID: <2kam57$amk@indigo.imp.ch> I am looking for a good fast VESA-LB Graphic Card for Intel processors. The ATI Ultra seems to be a powerful card but it is quite expensive. Does this power justify the high price? ($500) Or is an ordinary S3 Graphic card good enough? And are all Chipsets (801,803,928) supported by NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel ? Can anyone recommend me a powerful and fully compatible Graphic card? - Thanks Ralph Keller (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch)
From: tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Date: 21 Feb 1994 11:49:35 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402211740.AA09511@klingon.digicon-hou.com> Has anyone had any experience with the 20Mbyte `flopical' drives? I was looking at getting one for my nextstation. All input is welcome. Thanks _______________________________________________________________________________ [[[[[[[[]]]]]]]] [] [] [] /\ [] |\ /| Thomas J. Tschetter II / \ [] | \/ | x4253 |--| [] | | | | [] | | tsch@digicon-hou.com [[[]]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boconnor@andi.org (Bob O'Connor) Subject: External Optical Drive and NS3.2 Message-ID: <CLKtGo.KnI@nextsrv1.andi.org> Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 13:29:12 GMT I just upgraded my NeXTStations from NS3.0 to 3.2. I have an external 128 MB optical drive. NS will no longer mount the optical disks. It merely ejects them, instead. Am I doing something wrong? Has this happened to anyone else? Can it be fixed? How? Bob O'Connor boconnor@andi.org
From: charles_ashley@learned.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerPC's for NeXTStep Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 17:59:52 BST Organization: EUnet GB Message-ID: <2kat39$8i0@marble.Britain.EU.net> References: <2k5r1e$1i2@umd5.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > In any case, here's thanking NeXT for a great product, and hoping we'll > see it on the PowerPC soon. > Hear, hear. C.
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: VL-Graphic Cards Date: 21 Feb 1994 18:00:24 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <2kasro$5qd@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <2kam57$amk@indigo.imp.ch> Ralph Michael Keller (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch) wrote: : I am looking for a good fast VESA-LB Graphic Card for Intel processors. : The ATI Ultra seems to be a powerful card but it is quite expensive. : Does this power justify the high price? ($500) You should be able to get this card for <$400. Check out Computer Shopper (the mag). : Or is an ordinary S3 Graphic card good enough? And are all Chipsets : (801,803,928) supported by NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel ? : Can anyone recommend me a powerful and fully compatible Graphic card? : - Thanks Ralph Keller (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch) -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test - ignore this Date: 21 Feb 1994 13:13:22 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402211904.AA09729@klingon.digicon-hou.com> why are you reading this?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) Subject: Re: PowerPC's for NeXTStep Message-ID: <1994Feb21.190407.24041@ictv.com> Sender: usenet@ictv.com Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200 References: <2k5r1e$1i2@umd5.umd.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 19:04:07 GMT Richard Scott Ogata writes > Finally, NeXT is going to be testing and fine tuning the > HP and Sun ports into December, and OpenStep development > will go on much longer. They may simply not have the bodies to > do it in a timely fashion, although in that case I would hope > they would hire more people. > In any case, here's thanking NeXT for a great product, > and hoping we'll see it on the PowerPC soon. > > Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil I believe that OpenStep is being done by SUN, with little support from NeXT. (I know one of the engineers who is helping support them.) Robert -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK 660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063
From: tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Floptical drives Date: 21 Feb 1994 13:24:53 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402211916.AA09770@klingon.digicon-hou.com> Has anyone had any experience with the 20Mbyte `flopical' drives? I was looking at getting one for my nextstation. All input is welcome. Thanks _______________________________________________________________________________ [[[[[[[[]]]]]]]] [] [] [] /\ [] |\ /| Thomas J. Tschetter II / \ [] | \/ | x4253 |--| [] | | | | [] | | tsch@digicon-hou.com [[[]]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: test - ignore this Date: 21 Feb 1994 19:45:44 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kb319$3d4@inxs.concert.net> References: <9402211904.AA09729@klingon.digicon-hou.com> In article <9402211904.AA09729@klingon.digicon-hou.com> tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) writes: > why are you reading this? Is this brainless or not? -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: root@flute.music.gla.ac.uk Subject: Printer Problems Message-ID: <CLKrE2.Du9@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk> Sender: news@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk (News) Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 12:44:25 GMT After several misfeeds, our NeXT mono printer is misalligning the printing page on the actual A4 sheet. Instead of leavin approx. 1 inch margins, the top margin is about 1/4 inch and the bottom 1 and 3/4. Anybody got any idea how to fix this. We've tried rebooting the machine and the printer etc, but to no avail. Thanks in advance, Ken
From: devans@uoguelph.ca (David F Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ND Questions Date: 21 Feb 1994 20:27:13 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2kb5f1$ekc@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <2k3i7l$skd@cnn.sim.es.com> <CLHCv3.Ay@idyll.com> All this ND talk is making me definately want some sort of group effort to get technical information about the beast. It seems that it would be used for much more than a nice colour display..... Another question. I saw someone list what looked like the output from a command with the line, "JPEG hardware not installed." Was this a command output? Where can source for stuff like this be found? And did this JPEG hardware ship with the board? It's been a while since I had our ND cube apart so I can't recall if there were any empty sockets (except, of course, the SIMM sockets.....) ============================================================================= David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: reeves@eugenia.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu (Terry W. Reeves) Subject: Apple CD-300, Does it work with NeXT Step 3.0 Black hardware? Message-ID: <1994Feb21.204031.1973@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: Vanderbilt University Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 20:40:31 GMT Our group wants to get a CD-ROM for our NeXTStation Turbo running NeXTStep 3.0. The university computer store sells Apple CD-300 for only $375. Will they work with our machine? I seem to remember somebody saying that it did sometime ago. Terry Reeves reeves@eugenia.phy.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: jhong@fnma.com (Joseph Hong) Subject: CDROM guru wanted: audio CD on black NeXT thru Apple CD300 Message-ID: <1994Feb21.223432.14510@almserv.uucp> Keywords: CDROM, Apple, CD300, NeXTSTEP, NeXT Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp Organization: Fannie Mae Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 22:34:32 GMT Apparently, CDPlay.app does not work with my brand new Apple CD300. My configuration is: 1. NeXTstation mono 25MHz 68040, 2. NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Motorola, and 3. Apple CD-300 external. Q1: Are there any tips that I can make the above configuration work? I mean playing audio CD on my NeXT thru Apple CD300. Q2: Does it exist a Kodak PhotoCD reader on NeXTSTEP? Any help is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Joseph ================================================================== Joseph Hong Consultant at Fannie Mae Fannie Mae, 3900 Wisconsin Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20016 Voice: (202) 752-7198 Email: jhong@fnma.com (NeXT Mail OK) ==================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) Subject: Re: ND Questions Message-ID: <CLLIHI.Apq@mail.auburn.edu> Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator) Organization: Auburn University References: <2k3i7l$skd@cnn.sim.es.com> <CLHCv3.Ay@idyll.com> <2kb5f1$ekc@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 22:29:41 GMT David F Evans (devans@uoguelph.ca) wrote: : All this ND talk is making me definately want some sort of group effort : to get technical information about the beast. It seems that it would be : used for much more than a nice colour display..... ...(munch)... I think this is great! We definitely need more info on the ND. I use mine for silly little things, such as grabbing frames off of cable or recording small movie snipets to disk. But there's got to be a whole lot more one can do with this thing! I know all my Windoze friends salivate just when they look at the I/O on the rear of the board...we just need to get in gear! Right now mine's hooked up to a dual-deck VCR, and I'd like to use the ND for some special effects (nothing fancy, but just to be able to do it would be pretty cool - putting titles on home-made movies would be a start! :) :) This thread has the names of many people interested in the ND. Perhaps this is a good starting point... Just a thought! -Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ace@acelab.ruhr.de (Andreas Fatum) Subject: Re: VL-Graphic Cards References: <2kam57$amk@indigo.imp.ch> Organization: acelab - an internet bbs - +49-2368-56585 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 02:20:29 GMT Message-ID: <1994Feb22.022029.2100@acelab.ruhr.de> Ralph Michael Keller (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch) wrote: : Or is an ordinary S3 Graphic card good enough? And are all Chipsets : (801,803,928) supported by NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel ? No. Beware of S3-Cards not using the RAMDAC BT-485. S3-Cards with other RAMDACs are not supported. : Can anyone recommend me a powerful and fully compatible Graphic card? Go for the ATI GUP/2MB if you want to spend < $1,000. Andreas -- Andreas Fatum ace@acelab.ruhr.de (Internet) postmaster@re.open.de (City-Router) Student of CS, ace@acelab.ruhr.sub.org (SubNet) University of Dortmund ..!uunet!germany.EU.net!acelab!ace (UUCP/Bang!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: soundblaster driver is where? Message-ID: <1994Feb22.005916.282@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 00:59:16 GMT Hi. I think that a driver for the soundblaster was posted to the archives several weeks ago... but I can't find it. Can someone point me in the right direction, please? Please respond by e-mail, as I may not have access to netnews tomorrow, when I need the driver(!)... Thanks, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep Implementation (Was Re: PowerPC's for NEXTSTEP) Date: 22 Feb 1994 05:22:08 GMT Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2kc4q0$o5j@umd5.umd.edu> References: <2k5r1e$1i2@umd5.umd.edu> <1994Feb21.190407.24041@ictv.com> In article <1994Feb21.190407.24041@ictv.com> robert@ictv.com writes: >I believe that OpenStep is being done by SUN, with little support from >NeXT. (I know one of the engineers who is helping support them.) > >Robert >-- You may well be right, but are you sure? NeXT has said several times, including at the developer conference, that Sun is not only licensing OpenStep, which would be free according to the whole OpenStep philosophy, but also the implementation. Since NeXT is also licensing several of their apps to Sun for OpenStep, including the Workspace Manager, Mail, Preferences, etc., it would seem odd that Sun was doing all of the implementation. Of course, I guess it's possible that NeXT is just handing over the source to the various kits and applications and leaving it up to Sun to make it work, but I would guess that NeXT is providing at least one or two of their top engineers at least half time once the spec is ironed out. Oh, well, if Sun is doing all the implementation themselves, it helps explain why Sun's targetting this product for 1st quarter 95, with widespread use by end of 95. It's got to be a daunting task. Rich Ogata rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rtyler@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (tyler richard s) Subject: DAT help! Message-ID: <1994Feb22.083131.18659@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 08:31:31 GMT Hi, I am trying to use a DAT tape drive to make backups from my NeXT computer. It works fine with a demo version of SafetyNet but I can't manage to find parameters for Dump and Restore to use the DAT directly from a shell. I have a few questions: - what should I use for the 's' parameters (size of dump tape in feet)? - and for the 'd' parameters ? (density of the tape) My tapes are 2Gb, 4mm, 295FT. The second question is about the device to use: it is an internal DAT but I have the choice between rst0 and nrst0. What are the differences? Thank you in advance, Philippe. ---- e-mail: rtyler@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Differences between Nanao monitors Date: 22 Feb 1994 11:20:25 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu> Given all the people who seem to like their Nanao monitors, I'm planning on getting one for my system to run NS/Intel. A list of them came up in csn.marketplace: model size New SRP F550iw 17" $1399 F560iW 17" $1599 T560i 17" $1999 T550i 17" $1199 I have seen people say great things about most of these, but I don't know what the differences are. The "W"s have better shielding, from what I understand, but I don't know what the difference is between a 550 and a 560, or between a "T" and and "F". Are these all great? What makes an F560iW worth $200 more than the F550iW? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Herseth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EISA 1740 Adaptec SCSI card Date: 22 Feb 1994 13:21:26 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <2kctc6$ngb@yrsa.ifi.uio.no> References: <CLHu8B.5oo@lysis.ch> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE NeXT announces the availability of the updated Adaptec 154x driver. This update 1 of the Adaptec 154x series SCSI adapter device driver lets you take advantage of the following SCSI adapters: Manufacturer Adapter PC Bus Notes Adaptec 1540B ISA Adaptec 1542B ISA Adaptec 1540C ISA Adaptec 1542C ISA Adaptec 1540CF ISA Adaptec 1542CF ISA Adaptec 1740 EISA in standard 154x mode only Adaptec 1742 EISA in standard 154x mode only Bus Logic 542B ISA Bus Logic 747S EISA Bus Logic 445S VL-Bus The updated driver now lets you use a hard disk larger than 1 gigabyte as a startup disk, if your SCSI adapter features extended BIOS translation (previously, this was only possible with the Adaptec 154xC adapter). The updated driver also improves support for the Adaptec 154xC and 154xCF adapters, particularly in cases where these adapters weren't always detected when starting up the computer. This driver is available through NeXTanswers, in the following places: Email: nextanswers@next.com 1520 Adaptec154xDriver.ReadMe 1521 Adaptec154xDriver.pkg Ftp: ftp.next.com: pub/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1520.compressed pub/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1521.compressed pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/3.2_Drivers/Adaptec154xDriver.54 520.1 1520_Adaptec154xDriver.ReadMe 1521_Adaptec154xDriver.pkg.compressed pub/NeXTanswers/AsciiFiles/Drivers/3.2_Drivers/Adaptec154xDriv er.54520.1 1520_Adaptec154xDriver.ReadMe.txt Arne
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Internal drive in station scsi1 or scsc2? Date: 22 Feb 1994 08:04:18 -0600 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2kd3d2$39k@tamsun.tamu.edu> I have an '040 25 MHz station with a 105MB drive. I have an opportunity to buy a internal 425 MB Segate 3.5" HH SCSI2 drive. Will it work in my NeXT?
From: dryan@maths.tcd.ie (Don Ryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCI bus Date: 22 Feb 1994 16:08:55 -0000 Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland. Message-ID: <2kdamn$s9i@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Our college has acquired NS/i 3.2 and we're looking at various PC configurations. The most future-proof route would seem to be a Pentium processor with a PCI bus. However, I've heard conflicting reports about this. Some people say that the PCI chipset is buggy and should be avoided (true?, false?, out-of-date?) Others reports systems running 3.2 satisfactorily on Pentium/PCI systems. Has anyone out there got the definitive lowdown on this? Thanks in advance. Don Ryan Dublin Institute of Technology Dublin Ireland dryan@dit.ie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Howard Yermish) Subject: NeXT to PC Message-ID: <1994Feb22.160111.132@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 16:01:11 GMT I am getting a NeXT machine in the next couple of days through a deal with the NeXT lab where I do most of my work. I know that it is theoretically possible but I'm not quite sure of the actual connections. I would like to have the NeXT networked to my IBM PC. I would assume that Ethernet would be the best way to do this. Does anyone have any experience with this setup. Also what software are you using to make this fly. My hardware setup is currently: 486 DX2/50 w/ 8Mb RAM (2) 250 Mb IDE (13ms) HP IIp with postscript cartridge Windows 3.1 with PCTools Desktop My original idea was to NeXTStep for Intel Processors but the deal that I am getting on the machine is cheaper than the software and the additional RAM. Thank you for any help. Howard Yermish hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu hyermish@lulu.esm.rochester.edu Eastman School of Music
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) Subject: Re: Crud: A New Idea for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <dhowland.761931552@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> <1994Feb20.155930.13691@xexos.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:39:12 GMT mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: >Just a marketing point here, but Crud is slang for "crap" or "shit" in the UK. >As in the phrase, "thats a pile of old crud". I posted a followup about the database CRUD acronym, and an example phrase "your application is a pile of old CRUD." For the ultra- humor-impaired, or overly sensitive, I was not refering to any app by Mark or Xexos. I wanted to cancel my post and redo it in a less inflammatory manner, but the news system here hasn't posted it yet, and I have to get to work & can't wait any longer. :~( Royce Howland dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) Subject: Re: Crud: A New Idea for NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <dhowland.761928590@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> <1994Feb20.155930.13691@xexos.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 14:49:50 GMT mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: >In article <2k122l$836@magnusson.alpine.com> sean@alpine.com (Sean Luke) >writes: >> Crud is proof-of-concept of not only the desperate need for a system-wide, >> made-for-NeXTSTEP macro language, but of the amazing things NeXT's highly >> consistent development system can offer users of just such a language, >> especially when compared to similar attempts like REXX, tcl, Perl, >AppleScript, >> and the great Evil (Visual Basic). >Just a marketing point here, but Crud is slang for "crap" or "shit" in the UK. >As in the phrase, "thats a pile of old crud". It's also a common database acronym, standing for Create, R-something, Update, Delete. (I can never remember what the "R" is for; Report?) As in the phrase, "your application is basically a pile of old CRUD." :~) Apologies to Mark. Royce Howland dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple CD-300, Does it work with NeXT Step 3 Date: 22 Feb 1994 18:00:01 GMT Organization: E&S Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kdh71$aga@cnn.sim.es.com> References: <1994Feb21.204031.1973@news.vanderbilt.edu> In article 1973@news.vanderbilt.edu, reeves@eugenia.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu (Terry W. Reeves) writes: > Our group wants to get a CD-ROM for our NeXTStation Turbo running NeXTStep > 3.0. The university computer store sells Apple CD-300 for only $375. Will > they work with our machine? I seem to remember somebody saying that it did > sometime ago. Yes, it works. It's what I use (for black and white hardware). Nevin
From: art@cyclone.mitre.org (Arthur T. McClinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Re: Digital (was Re: Gateway P5-66? Any comments) Date: 22 Feb 1994 18:12:21 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation Sender: art@cyclone (Arthur T. McClinton) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kdhu5$qu3@linus.mitre.org> References: <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> <2js3bo$3l3@inxs.concert.net> <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu> In article <MCGLK.94Feb16102635@yang.cpac.washington.edu>, mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes: |> info@absystems.com (Advanced Business Systems) writes: |> |> | In article <CLAJ1s.IrE@nosloc.com> derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) writes: |> | |> | > I am looking at getting some new hardware. I was wondering if anyone had |> | > any comments on the new P5-66 Pentium machine from Gateway? |> | |> | Yes...buy Digital! |> |> Or don't. {Long story deleted} The orignial question concerned the Gateway Pentium. I know of two of these machines. The first one was returned to Gateway as it was DOA and they could not make it work over the phone. The second one was delivered to an acquantence at Bell Labs. He managed to figure out that if he used only 8 meg of memory that the machine would run. Both banks pf memory were OK but could not be used in combination. Likewise his machine would not Boot. Gateway has promised to have a tech bring ok a new CPU board and solve the problem. At this point I have not heard if the problem has been fixed. In my case, I have a GATEWAY 2000 4DX2-66 with an ATI Ultra card and 16 meg of memory. I had considerable WINdows problems until we finally determined that they video memory address had been set to 10 meg. Everything would run fine for large periods of the day and then I would manage to load things into just the right place that either I would have data destroyed or the machine would hang. GATEWAY used to be a high quality low volume manufacturer. They are now high volume ??? Quality.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com Subject: Re: soundblaster driver is where? Message-ID: <1994Feb22.180744.10884@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1994Feb22.005916.282@Princeton.EDU> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 18:07:44 GMT In article <1994Feb22.005916.282@Princeton.EDU> gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes: > Hi. I think that a driver for the soundblaster was posted to the > archives several weeks ago... but I can't find it. > > Can someone point me in the right direction, please? Please respond > by e-mail, as I may not have access to netnews tomorrow, when I need > the driver(!)... > > Thanks, > Phil > > -- > G. Philippe Menos > gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] > Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries > voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571 Index for cs.orst.edu /pub/next/binaries/drivers/ /pub/next/binaries/drivers/SoundBlaster8_V1.00.README /pub/next/binaries/drivers/SoundBlaster8_V1.00.tar.gz /pub/next/binaries/drivers/SoundBlaster8_V1.04.README /pub/next/binaries/drivers/SoundBlaster8_V1.04.tar.gz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Why does the optical drive keep spinning up and down? Message-ID: <1994Feb21.145639.1367@gamelan.uucp> Sender: thomas@gamelan.uucp (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <2k632v$oii@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 14:56:39 GMT In article <2k632v$oii@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: > > Has anyone else experienced this of problem? Since the problem seems > disk-dependent, could it be caused by dirty / abused disks? Yes. Original NeXT disks are worse than the double sided disks by Canon. Try to clean the disk (carefully !!!). A reformat also helps. And it seems that after some warming up it gets better. Thus: After you insert the disk, wait a few minutes before doing work with it. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.de Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thf@zelator.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: NG bug??? Message-ID: <1994Feb21.145807.1422@gamelan.uucp> Sender: thomas@gamelan.uucp (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <2k4jia$4kj@nagasena.muc.de> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 14:58:07 GMT In article <2k4jia$4kj@nagasena.muc.de> kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz) writes: > Hi > I can't post with NG. An error messages arise when I write a followup e.g. > which says: Posting failed '"d ' > or something like this I just did a "Followup" with NG 75, thus it works. Maybe your C-News installation is wrong. Also check NG preferences. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** Unix-Consultant ** thf@zelator.de Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between Nanao monitors Date: 22 Feb 1994 19:06:15 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA Message-ID: <2kdl37$b7@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu> References: <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > Given all the people who seem to like their Nanao monitors, > I'm planning on getting one for my system to run NS/Intel. > A list of them came up in csn.marketplace: > > model size New SRP > F550iw 17" $1399 > F560iW 17" $1599 > T560i 17" $1999 > T550i 17" $1199 I've been using an F550iw for a few months, and I would NOT recommend it. It's well-constructed and has great controls, but the display has terrible moire problems at higher resolutions. I can jiggle the patterns around by adjusting the size and position of the image, but I haven't been able to eliminate them completely. I suspect the bottom line is that the dot pitch on this monitor is just not fine enough to handle resolutions higher than 800 x 600 without distortion. I've seen this same problem on the NEC 5FG. Other than that, it's great. The controls are well-designed and include corrections for pincushion and trapezoidal distortion. The monitor remembers settings for different video signals so you don't have to readjust every time you change. It also has automatic power management and automatically switches between video inputs to find one with a singal on it. I use the monitor with a NeXTstation Color, NS/FIP, DOS, and Windows at three different resolutions. For the most part, the monitor just magically adjusts to whatever I'm using at the time. Occasionally, it does have problems distinguishing similar video signals. The F550i has no anti-glare coating and has not-as-nice controls. I don't know much about the better models, but I know that some of them do have a finer dot pitch. I'd definitely look into one of those. Garth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerry@wright.iba (Gerry Brush) Subject: HP Laserjet 4M on ethernet? Message-ID: <1994Feb22.183216.20273@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 18:32:16 GMT I'm thinking of buying an HP Laserjet 4M and an HP Jet Direct ethernet adaptor so that I can put the printer on our local ethernet. I would like my NeXTstation to be able to print to it via TCP/IP and lpr. Has anyone else used this printer in this way, or know of a reason why it shouldn't work? I am NEXTSTEP 3.2. Gerry Brush Institute of Biological Anthropology University of Oxford 58 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6QS UK
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (David Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Drivers for T4000W32i? when? Date: 22 Feb 1994 19:19:07 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2kdlrb$itj@menudo.uh.edu> Hi folks, in the NS hardware compatibility guide, it teases you about the availability of drivers for then T4000W32i chipsets, and it says, ETA Q1 '94 now, I am a poor student (who isn't?) who wants to run NSFIP on a tight budget (yes, ha ha ha) and I have to decide on the video card now. and I was hoping to get away by just purchasing something like the hercules Dynymite pro 2MB VLB. I guess if the drivers are not availble for this card, I can always use the TS4000 driver and run MS at 1024 X 768 @ 2 bit grey scale (boo hoo) and hope that when and if the drivers are released for the w32i, I would be able to kick myself up to either 8 bit greyscale or 16 bit color maybe not at 1024 but at least @ 800 X 600. I would like to hear your comments on my logic, or do you think that I should just bite the bullet and buy the ATI GUP VLB card for about $350? (BTW, anyone selling their's to go up to something even better?) I would hate to buy the ATI GUP VLB and then have the drivers for the w32i come out 2 weeks later. Does anyone really know what the status on these promised drivers are? oh yeah and I really don't care if it's slower, as long as it works.... suggestions? comments? flames? Thanks David Wang ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes ofcourse I speak for the University of Houston... The University asks that you send money to assist me in my education.... Please send it now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --
From: bbeckwit@carrock.hw.stratus.com (Bob Beckwith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between Nanao monitors Date: 22 Feb 1994 20:07:48 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kdomk$og0@transfer.stratus.com> References: <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: [prices for various Nanao monitors deleted] >I have seen people say great things about most of these, but >I don't know what the differences are. The "W"s have better >shielding, from what I understand, but I don't know what the >difference is between a 550 and a 560, or between a "T" and >and "F". Are these all great? What makes an F560iW worth >$200 more than the F550iW? I'm pretty certain that the the "T" designator means that it's a trinitron (note: this does not mean "it's a sony", as (I think) the trinitron patent has expired). I *think* that the 560 has a finer pitch than the 550 (but I don't know for sure). Also, you might want to check out one of the recent issues of (was it) Byte. I think they reviewed a few of the Nanao monitors and supply specs on them (this was part of article which reviewed many monitors). --Bob -- Bob_Beckwith@vos.stratus.com Stratus Computer, Inc., Hardware Engineering 55 Fairbanks Blvd. Marlboro, MA 01752 USA
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between Nanao monitors Date: 22 Feb 1994 20:35:44 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Distribution: world Message-ID: <BWH.94Feb22153544@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu> In-reply-to: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 22 Feb 1994 11:20:25 GMT T = Trinitron F = not-Trinitron F550i is low end series, still a good monitor F560i is a midrange monitor, EXCELLENT monitor T560i is the high end one, best 17" monitor in the world all above are 17" -- -------------- Brian Hook | What's the difference between VR and combining graphics, bwh@cis.ufl.edu | networking, simulation, and physics? NOTHING.
From: tema@snakemail.hut.fi (Teemu Lehtonen ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with New driver for buslogic 445s Date: 22 Feb 1994 21:31:14 GMT Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Distribution: world Message-ID: <TEMA.94Feb22233114@delta.hut.fi> I saw the announcement of new adaptec 1542 driver for NeXT that supports also buslogic bt 445s VLB SCSI card. I read the installation instructions and I began to wonder How can one Install NeXT on a computer that has only BT 445S card because you cannot install NeXT on such system. If someone has upgraded their Adaptec driver could you please send me the relevant files so that I could make an NeXT floppy that I could use when Installing NeXT on systems that haven't got Adaptec installed. Ecuse me my bad english but please if you have NeXT STEP for intel 3.2 could you please send me your updated Adapter driver files -- ******************************************************************************* * tema@vipunen.hut.fi teemu.lehtonen@hut.fi * * tema@otax.tky.hut.fi tema@snakemail.hut.fi * * Home address: Pentinkatu 4 29200 Harjavalta tel.(939)740091 * * Study address: SMT 12 F 83 02150 Espoo tel. (90)4683087 * *******************************************************************************
From: emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: monitor problems Date: 22 Feb 1994 22:37:31 GMT Organization: UF Department of Statistics Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ke1fbINN7i2@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Keywords: nextcube monitor We have problems with 2 of our black and white monitors, on nextcube machines. One of them locks up and requires hard reset to get it working. Another one is blacking out. It is hard to read the screen contents. If any of you have any solutions for these problems, please mail them to me. Thanks in advance, EGBERT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Message-ID: <1994Feb21.181743.7420@plexare.com> Sender: usenet@plexare.com Organization: Plexare Development Corporation References: <2k0hd5$48s@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 18:17:43 GMT bbeckwit@carrock.hw.stratus.com (Bob Beckwith) writes: > Another thing you can consider doing is adding this to your crontab so > that every 5 or 10 minutes you turn the printer off. I've never tried, > but I think if you issue an power off command while the printer is > printing, it gets "queued up" and the printer turns off after it's done. If you issue a `nppower off' command while the printer is off it will cycle power to the printer which is probably a bad thing to do every 5-10 minutes. My crontab does it once a day just to be sure I don't forget to turn it off. Mike Barthelemy NEXTSTEP Developer msb@plexare.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) Subject: MacIIfx internal SCSI terminator in a Cube? Message-ID: <lagardeCLnDIz.1y6@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:37:46 GMT Hi, a while back (I can't find the article), someone proposed using a MacIIfx internal terminator to properly terminate a SCSI bus in a Cube with no internal drive. Has anyone actually done that, and is there any danger to the SCSI controller on the board if I try it? I don't think there is, but I'd rather hear from somebody who already tried it. Thanks, Jean
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EISA Ethernet cards supported Date: 22 Feb 1994 23:12:11 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2ke3gb$cq7@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CLHtxr.5nH@lysis.ch> > How does the EISA 3COM Ethernet adapter works? > The ISA 3COM doesn t satisfy me at all... > What other EISA Ethernet cards are supported with NS? In our environment, the EISA 3COM Etherlink III boards seem to work the same as the ISA version of the board. The Intel EtherExpress ISA card is probably your best bet as it has the best NFS performance due to having reasonable amounts of RAM on the card. If NFS isn't an issue for you, I don't know that any of the NeXTSTEP supported cards are going to do any better for you than the 3COM. - Christopher
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between Nanao monitors Date: 23 Feb 1994 00:01:44 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Message-ID: <BWH.94Feb22190144@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu> <2kdl37$b7@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu> In-reply-to: garth@cs.swarthmore.edu's message of 22 Feb 1994 19:06:15 GMT In article <2kdl37$b7@larch.cc.swarthmore.edu> garth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Garth Snyder) writes: >>>> I've been using an F550iw for a few months, and I would NOT recommend it. It's well-constructed and has great controls, but the display has terrible moire problems at higher resolutions. I can jiggle the patterns around by adjusting the size and position of the image, but I haven't been able to eliminate them completely. I suspect the bottom line is that the dot pitch on this monitor is just not fine enough to handle resolutions higher than 800 x 600 without distortion. I've seen this same problem on the NEC 5FG. >>>> I have an F550i and it works wonderfully. PC Magazine (reliable source that it is....NOT!) gave it an Editor's Choice a few months back also. For the price, I would not buy any other monitor, and I've seen quite a few in the 1K price range. The F550i's primary problem is some blooming/intensity drops when you put a lot of bright white on the screen. If you are working somewhere that you can control the lighting, it is a GREAT monitor. The brightness is a bit lower than you would want from say an NEC or Sony, but once again, for the price it's a great monitor. I run OS/2 2.x @ 1024x768@60Hz and it doesn't bother me a bit. When I get a better video card I'll pump it up to 70Hz. >>>> Other than that, it's great. The controls are well-designed and include corrections for pincushion and trapezoidal distortion. The monitor remembers settings for different video signals so you don't have to readjust every time you change. It also has automatic power management and automatically switches between video inputs to find one with a singal on it. I use the monitor with a NeXTstation Color, NS/FIP, DOS, and Windows at three different resolutions. For the most part, the monitor just magically adjusts to whatever I'm using at the time. Occasionally, it does have problems distinguishing similar video signals. >>>> I second the above. >>>> The F550i has no anti-glare coating and has not-as-nice controls. I don't know much about the better models, but I know that some of them do have a finer dot pitch. I'd definitely look into one of those. >>>> If I had my druthers I'd get the 560iW, but at 400+ dollars more, I can't afford it. If won the lottery, I'd get the T560iW, which just about rules the universe as far as 17" monitors go. Brian -- -------------- Brian Hook | What's the difference between VR and combining graphics, bwh@cis.ufl.edu | networking, simulation, and physics? NOTHING.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti) Subject: What is ADB NeXT Monitor ? Message-ID: <CLnHp6.H71@utnetw.utoledo.edu> Sender: news@utnetw.utoledo.edu (News Manager) Organization: University of Toledo Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 00:07:53 GMT Hello: What is the ADB kit or ADB monitor? Thanks. //Mohan mohan@tulip.es.utoledo.edu
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between Nanao monitors Message-ID: <1994Feb22.154219.11572@cc.usu.edu> Date: 22 Feb 94 15:42:19 MDT References: <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu> Distribution: world Organization: Utah State University In article <2kcppp$5on@usenet.rpi.edu>, gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > Given all the people who seem to like their Nanao monitors, > I'm planning on getting one for my system to run NS/Intel. > A list of them came up in csn.marketplace: > > model size New SRP > F550iw 17" $1399 > F560iW 17" $1599 > T560i 17" $1999 > T550i 17" $1199 I don't know the answer to all of these... I beleive the T stands for Trinitron tube. Which is a better tube. I have used both the T550i and the T560i. The 550 is a pretty good monitor, nothing stellar. The T560i is an exceptional monitor. Very crisp and clean with great color saturation. Something interesting though, PCMag or PCWeek, I don't remember which, rated the new IBM 17" Trinitron monitor as the best. It was said to have as good, if not a little bit better picture than the Nanao T560i, and the IBM is much cheaper, around $1100 I believe. They previously rated the T560i as being the best, which is why I bought it, so I have to believe that the IBM is as good as they say with this latest review. The only thing they rated the Nanao higher on was the ease of adjusting the various settings. I have a T560i, and it is VERY nice. The best monitor I have used. But I would like to hear from anyone that has used that IBM one. ====================================================================== John Zollinger Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
From: bohlkejh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jon H. Bohlke II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M on ethernet? Date: 23 Feb 1994 02:02:07 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2kedev$ia@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> References: <1994Feb22.183216.20273@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> In article <1994Feb22.183216.20273@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> gerry@wright.iba (Gerry Brush) writes: > I'm thinking of buying an HP Laserjet 4M and an HP Jet Direct ethernet > adaptor so that I can put the printer on our local ethernet. I would > like my NeXTstation to be able to print to it via TCP/IP and lpr. Has > anyone else used this printer in this way, or know of a reason why it > shouldn't work? I am NEXTSTEP 3.2. > > > > Gerry Brush > Institute of Biological Anthropology > University of Oxford > 58 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6QS > UK It says that it should work fine in the HP-Jetdirect users manual... -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jon Bohlke bohlkejh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu "This gnaws at my gut like a Billy Tubbs post-game interview." - Michael Lerner GO HUSKERS!!!!!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between Nanao monitors Date: 23 Feb 1994 03:54:07 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kek0v$ku9@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1994Feb22.154219.11572@cc.usu.edu> In article <1994Feb22.154219.11572@cc.usu.edu> slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes: > ..... > Something interesting though, PCMag or PCWeek, I don't remember which, Byte Magazine, January 1994 issue. > rated the new IBM 17" Trinitron monitor as the best. > It was said to have as good, if > not a little bit better picture than the Nanao T560i, and the IBM is much > cheaper, around $1100 I believe. List price is $1199, but don't expect discounts. (The dealer's price is over $1000 and he has no margin to discount.) > They previously rated the T560i as being the > best, which is why I bought it, so I have to believe that the IBM is as > good as > they say with this latest review. The only thing they rated the Nanao higher > on was the ease of adjusting the various settings. > I have a T560i, and it is VERY nice. The best monitor I have used. But I > would like to hear from anyone that has used that IBM one. > I have the IBM 17P monitor and I like it very much. I use it in the 1120*832 @68Hz mode (the highest my ATI card will do in color) and the picture looks excellent. As to the ease-of-use, setting controls are labelled in an idiot-proof way and they work exactly as expected. In any case, you only adjust the settings the first time you use a particular scanning mode, after that it's automatic. I strongly recommend this monitor to all NeXT users. Two caveats, however: 1) The manual is vintage IBM -( (although you don't really need it). 2) The trinitron tube has a vertically-flat screen (which is good), but it's also quite long, so the monitor has a big rear end. ********************************************************************** Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | #include <std_disclaimer.h> Assistant Professor of Physics, | University of Texas at Austin. | My English isn't THAT bad, vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu | but my typing stinks:-(.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: burns@nova.bellcore.com (James E. Burns) Subject: Re: ISDN & PhoneKit and 3.2 In-Reply-To: childc@tosh.cas.american.edu's message of 17 Feb 1994 21:04:19 GMT Message-ID: <BURNS.94Feb22210004@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com> Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com Organization: Bell Communication Research References: <2k0m4j$m7j@paladin.american.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 02:00:04 GMT >Has anyone here used the Hayes ISDN Extender with phoneKit and 3.2 NeXT no longer supports PhoneKit. When I called them about 9 months ago, they said they had hopes a third party would take it over, but I don't think that has happened. You might be able to get the Extender to work with the PhoneKit originally distributed, but you might have trouble getting it to work with your phone company. The standard now (coming after PhoneKit was released) is National ISDN-1. The Hayes only supports the older AT&T proprietary standard. As long as you are hooked to an AT&T central office digital switch (5-ESS), you can probably expect this to be available as an option. I'm not sure how it interoperates with the other versions. Anyway, given all the uncertainty I opted for an AT&T ISDN phone, about $800 (ouch). jim burns -- James E. Burns burns@nova.bellcore.com Bellcore, NVC-3X114 Off: (908) 758-2819 331 Newman Springs Road Fax: (908) 758-4371 Red Bank, NJ 07701-5699, USA Home: (908) 219-6561
From: mka@isa.UUCP (mka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NextStep on Intel box with DTC3290 SCSI controller? Keywords: intel, DTC3290 Message-ID: <145@isa.UUCP> Date: 23 Feb 94 07:33:45 GMT Followup-To: poster Distribution: usa Organization: Intelligent Systems Associates, Guanajuato, Mexico Has anyone successfully installed NextStep (Evaluation Kit 3.1) on an Intel box with a DTC3290 EISA SCSI controller? I tried the NextAnswers fax-back service unsuccessfully several times (my phone service here in Mexico has some problems). The installation program doesn't recognize the CD-ROM (a Texel DM-3024), and doesn't seem to like the floppy drive, which was taken off the DTC controller and put on an IDE card. I'm not sure if the install program will recognize the SCSI hard disk, since I've never gotten that far. Anyway I'm hoping that some procedure specific to the DTC controller will solve the other problems. Any suggestions or advice or official procedures will be greatly appreciated. PLEASE email replies to me even if you post the reply - I currently don't have a newsfeed (you won't believe what long- distance charges are in Mexico) and won't see postings. I can be reached via uunet (uunet!isa!mka). Thanks in advance, Mike Anderson uunet!isa!mka
From: seki@psrc.isac.co.jp (Futoshi Seki) Organization: ISAC,Inc. (International Sekisui AI Corporation) JAPAN Message-ID: <94Feb23.18819@psrc.isac.co.jp> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 07:24:13 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 driver ? Distribution: comp.sys.next.hardware Last week, I introduced NeXTSTEP(for Intel 3.1-J) into the 486 machine in our site(Too slow than my home Turbo!). But we should run NS with Novell's Unix-Ware on the white one. So we _must_ use NE2000 as a Ether-Card for NS. I tried to get info about NE2000 from NeXT Answers and Novell-Japan, but got nothing. Does anyone know about the driver of NE2000 Ether-Card ? Any help, comments is appreciated(E-mail better). If you are an Unix-Ware user, any information about your environment, too. Thanks in advance, and I'll post summaries to this thread, later. Seki seki@psrc.isac.co.jp ===================================================================== Name : Futoshi Seki E-mail : seki@psrc.isac.co.jp [None NeXT mail] Office : International Sekisui Artificial Intelligence Corporation [Phone 81-(0)3-3406-1645 (Japanese better), fax 3406-3910] Home : 306, LifeZone-Nakahara-2, Kamikodanaka, Nakaharaku, Kawasaki-City, Kanagawa, 211, Japan [Phone 81-(0)44-711-6641]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: flunau@next (Frederic J. Lunau) Subject: Hi-res on AST Bravo LP? Message-ID: <1994Feb22.150819.141@biztech.com> Sender: news@biztech.com Organization: Biztech, Inc. Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:08:19 GMT Is anyone successfully running NS 3.2 on a AST Bravo LP with the built-in ATI 68800 Rev 6 chipset on the motherboard in anything but standard (640x480) VGA? This is not a certified or listed system, and therefore not officially supported. Thanks, -- Fred Lunau Systems Consultant, NeXT Computer, Inc. flunau@next.com (203) 270-1010
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Parallel-port problem Date: 23 Feb 1994 13:44:33 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kfmk1$j5h@vega.info.isbiel.ch> I've got a problem with the recognation of the parallel port by NSfi 3.2. NS finds on booting my parallel port only when my printer is switched on (HP compatible LaserJet) ! Has someone an idea what i can do against that ? Thanks for help Oli Please answer me per Email
From: tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: US Robotics Modems Date: 23 Feb 1994 08:37:30 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402231428.AA15754@klingon.digicon-hou.com> Hi all, I just acquired a UR Robotics Sportster modem and was looking for some help it setting it up for use with a NeXTstation. I think I have the hardware flow control set up correctly, but when I dial a number the modems do the normal handshake, but I never get a carrier detect. I'm using kermit as the software package. Also any pointers on using the modem for FAXing would be apreciated, but this is not a primary concern. Since the modem is a FAX modem, I thought I would at least give it a shot. Thanks for any help. _______________________________________________________________________________ [[[[[[[[]]]]]]]] [] [] [] /\ [] |\ /| Thomas J. Tschetter II / \ [] | \/ | x4253 |--| [] | | | | [] | | tsch@digicon-hou.com [[[]]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: chris@doublon.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP Vectra / Adaptec SCSI Date: 23 Feb 1994 14:40:51 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <2kfptj$omq@taloa.unice.fr> Does anyone help me .... I've got an HP Vectra (with a 486DX 33MHz and 8Mb RAM) and I want to connect and SCSI external drive with NS I. I use an Adaptec AHA 1540C/1542C SCSI board. But an error occure during the boot process : Time out faillure during SCSI Inquiry command BIOS not Installed and I can't use it. What to do ? I've tried to changed some switches but with no succes. Please send your answer and suggestion to : chris@doublon.unice.fr thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) Subject: Re: US Robotics Modems Message-ID: <boonlow.762015149@sfu.ca> Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news) Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada References: <9402231428.AA15754@klingon.digicon-hou.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 14:52:29 GMT tsch@digicon-hou.com (Tom Tschetter) writes: Please post any anwsers. thanks, ben.
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT 3.2 device driver information wanted! Date: 23 Feb 1994 16:04:34 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2kfuqi$k3n@digdug.pencom.com> References: <CLo3B5.31s@csn.org> In article <CLo3B5.31s@csn.org> dhg@csn.org (David H. Goodlette) writes: > And I'm in the process of writing a NeXTSTEP 3.2 LAN device driver > for a new wiz-bang PC clone out of the UK. Within the deep recesses > of this little monster, there lies an Intel 82596 LAN controller > chip We wrote that driver for UNISYS boxes that were sold to Bozell. It's probably the only driver I've seen about as fast or maybe faster than the Intel EtherExpress. The UNISYS boxes had that same ethernet controller on-board, the Intel 82596 that uses bus mastering technology. You may be able to get it from Brent Terry (Manager of the Technology Integration group here at Pencom). The driver was written for 3.1 and then ported to 3.2 since there were some API changes. -- + Ricardo J. Parada "Imagination is more important than knowledge!"..-- Albert Einstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: VESA DPMS Screen Saver Message-ID: <CLo2Dt.DvA@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 07:34:41 GMT I have an ATI GUP and a ViewSonic 17G (very nice inexpensive monitor by the way). The monitor follows the DPMS standard for energy saving. In Windows and OS/2 the GUP has an option to activate this. Or, it can be activated via sw and a screen saver. Has this been done for NS? This is not an unimportant matter as policies are such as to require this at some point. Please don't suggest I get a Nanao. As nice as they may be, I am more than happy with this monitor which costs $500 less and is every bit as nice. For what it's worth, the Nanao's do not rank that highly in most reviews, mainly because of poor price performance. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Questions Message-ID: <140805@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 23 Feb 94 18:44:21 GMT Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology I've got a barage of questions I was wondering if anyone can answer about a Moto NeXT cube ('40) running system 2.1: a) I've got an internal optical drive, is there a way to eject the disk from the command line. umount will unmount it, but not eject it. b) If I want to upgrade to NS 3.x, do I need a CD-ROM drive, everything I've seen recently seems to be offered only on CD? While I'm at it, where is a good place to get NS 3.2 either in the Atlanta area, or via mail.. a student discount would be nice. c) If I want to network this system to a PC running DOS/Windows to do everything, including being a file server and a printer server: 1) What hardware should I get for my PC (i.e. ethernet card)? 2) What software should I get for my PC (DOS/Windows)? 3) Would I need a printer driver for the NeXT printer in Windows? 4) Do I need any additional hardware/software for the NeXT? 5) Would the PC be able to 'mount' the NeXT's hard drive/optical drive as a file system, and would the NeXT be able to mount the PC's hard drive as a file system? Thanks, -- David W Rinker Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202 Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sta@logibec.com Subject: Intel GX IDE Driver vs IDE Driver Message-ID: <1994Feb23.175846.2981@logibec.com> Sender: news@logibec.com Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 17:58:46 GMT Hi All Does anyone know how to use Intel Professional GX IDE Driver ? -- Stephane Ah-ki Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltd. sta@logibec.com
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeout? Date: 23 Feb 94 19:40:06 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.762032406@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <next2.761654522@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <CLKCp4.75F@nexusadmin.com> <2kcfe6$1j5@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >I got a forwarded mail from a Dell employee who states that we all need >BIOS/Firmware updates to the most recent version (don't know which rev.#) >from DPT. This is said to fix the problem. I have to correct myself. I really have the most recent version, 2C. Maybe this is a bug which did not occur in previous versions as 2A9 or 2B. Another possibility is that it only happens with very fast drives and exclusivly under NeXTSTEP, because I had no problems under DOS and a friend had no problems with the exactly my 2022 and an old, rather slow Fujitsu drive. Could all guys with 2022 adapters and frequent crashes due to SCSI timeouts - post their complete configuration here (DPT BIOS rev., SCSI devices attached to - post their MTBC (mean time between crash :-) - contact DPT and/or NeXT about it? It is a nightmare that the most sophisticated EISA SCSI controller is unusuable! I nearly lost a few days work yesterday because my super block got corrupted in the last SCSI lockup. It is the third time in two weeks when I had to restore a GB disk. Let me take the first entry in the "DPT trouble database": EISA/VL 486DX2 66, SiS Chipset, AMI BIOS, 32 MB DPT 2022/95, BIOS Rev. 2C (purchased in January 94) Toshiba CD-ROM 3201, Sankyo CP 525 QIC, DEC DSP 3053L, IBM 0662S12 (with active termination on). MTBC: about 2 days. My old 2021 ISA adapter with BIOS Rev. 2B works fine, by the way :-((( Regards, Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with optical drive Date: 23 Feb 1994 21:51:19 GMT Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Message-ID: <2kgj4n$ppd@spool.cs.wisc.edu> We're having trouble with our optical drive spinning down and up, more so on some disks than others. We saved some of the console messages; can anyone tell me what these mean? Thanks a bunch, David Finton ------------------ Software Version 2.0 (Warp6.4) Feb 17 14:47:14 Workspace[129]: ...Ready od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 8 phys block 246703 (19567:0:15) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 240736 phys block 243424 (19363:0:0) od0a: write failed (no more alternates for remap!) block 8 phys block 246703 (19567:0:15) od0a: write re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 48 phys block 304 (4168:0:0) od0a: write failed (no more alternates for remap!) block 8 phys block 246703 (19567:0:15) od0a: write re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 48 phys block 304 (4168:0:0) Software Version 2.0 (Warp6.4) Feb 18 15:55:41 Workspace[266]: ...Ready od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read failed (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246534 (19557:0:6) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 243808 phys block 246528 (19557:0:0) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read recover (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read failed (ECC) block 243808 phys block 246529 (19557:0:1) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 243808 phys block 246528 (19557:0:0) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 239264 phys block 241936 (19270:0:0) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 240494 phys block 243182 (19347:0:14) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 240494 phys block 243182 (19347:0:14) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 240494 phys block 243182 (19347:0:14) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 223328 phys block 225840 (18264:0:0) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 242688 phys block 245392 (19486:0:0) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 236320 phys block 238960 (19084:0:0) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 243304 phys block 246024 (19525:0:8) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 243304 phys block 246024 (19525:0:8) od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 243304 phys block 246024 (19525:0:8) od0a: write failed (no more alternates for remap!) block 8 phys block 246703 (19567:0:15) od0a: write re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 48 phys block 304 (4168:0:0)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: liangs@bluejay.CS.YALE.EDU (Sheng Liang) Subject: NS Intel install error : thread: wait for interrupt Message-ID: <1994Feb23.193116.14260@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 19:31:16 GMT Has anyone encountered the mysterious ":thread: wait for interrupt: returns -735" during installation, and found a way to overcome it? Thanks, Sheng
From: pboher@agsm.ucla.edu (Pablo Boher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: High speed data transfer Date: 24 Feb 1994 03:54:48 GMT Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <2kh8e8$7ji@news.mic.ucla.edu> We are four students at the Anderson Graduate School of Management at UCLA. As part of our degree requirements, we are responsible for completing a Management Field Study. As part of our Field Study, we are researching the needs of network workstation users. To assist us in our study, we would ask that you please take five minutes to complete the following questionnaire (there are 12 questions). This will help provide us with the information we need to complete our Field Study and fulfill our degree requirements. Also please feel free to add any additional comments that you might have. Thank you in advance for helping us. Please send completed survey to pboher@agsm.ucla.edu or pboher@uclagsm.bitnet Sincerely, Pablo Boher Alfonso Eyzaguirre Steven Rayner Thomas Tomlinson Please do not return surveys after March 11, 1994. Thank you very much. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- We would be very interested in knowing the name of your company or institution and your title. If you would not like to provide this information, please feel free to skip this section. COMPANY OR INSTITUTION: TITLE: Please check or write in your responses to the following: 1. Is your institution in a Workstation environment? (__) YES (__) NO If YES, please specify the brand and number of workstations: (__) Sun. How many workstations? ______ (__) IBM How many workstations? ______ (__) HP How many workstations? ______ (__) Silicon Graphics How many workstations? ______ (__) Other, please specify brand and number ________________________ 2. Are your workstations connected in a shared network? (__) YES (__) NO If YES, for what type of application are they used? (__) Resouce sharing (e.g. disk arrays) (__) Imaging and graphics (e.g. medical, CAD) (__) Multimedia (__) Interactive video entertainment (__) Distributed data bases (__) Other, please specify _____________________________ 3. Under what type of media are your workstations connected? (__) Token Ring (__) FDDI (__) Ethernet (__) Other, please specify __________________ 4. In what capacities are you involved with your workstation network? (__) Network user (__) System administrator (__) Network engineer (__) Other, please specify ___________________ 5. Does the media connecting your workstations transfer data at a speed sufficient to meet your needs? (__) YES (__) NO 6. Currently, what is the biggest bottleneck, if any, in your overall system? 7. In deciding which technology to use for data transfer capability, which features should this system have? Please rate each of the following factors from 1 to 5, 1 being not important and 5 being very important. Place a check after the appropriate answer. (1 = Not Important, 5 = Very Important) Speed 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) Upgradability of Components 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) Expandability 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) Comapatibility 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) Reliability 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) Interoperability 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) Cost 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) Other, please specify ___ 1(__) 2(__) 3(__) 4(__) 5(__) 8. How do you or your colleagues stay current on new products and new technologies? Please check those sources you use and list specific sources. (__) Magazines: _____________________________ (__) Seminars: _____________________________ (__) Suppliers: _____________________________ (__) Electronic Bulletin Board: ________________ (__) Trade Shows: ___________________________ (__) Other: ________________________________ 9. When you wish to upgrade or alter your system, how do you go about it? Please check all that apply. (__) Ourselves, in-house people (__) Sales and/or Service Vendor (__) System Integrator (__) Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) (__) Other, please specify _______________________________________ 10. What are your impressions of ATM? 11. What are your impressions of Fibre Channel? 12. If an ATM Adapter that transfers data at 155 Mbit/second was priced at $2,500, how much would you be willing to pay for a Fibre Channel Adapter that moves data: At 266 Mbit/second? $_____________ At 1.062 Gigabit/second? $_________ Please send completed survey to pboher@agsm.ucla.edu Thank you very much!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) Subject: NeXTStep/i newbie hardware questions! Message-ID: <schwettCLpy1y.3sE@netcom.com> Keywords: intel mo wacom Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 07:56:22 GMT Hi all! I finally decided to make the plunge into a *real* operating system and bought the Academic Edition of NeXTStep/intel. I love it - it's amazing... makes Win 3.11 look like, well... it's not a pretty comparison. But; I've got afew questions. Any help would be much appreciated! 1) What must I do to get my Fujitsu 128mb Magneto Optical drive working? 2) "" " Wacom digitizer tablet working (ud1212) 3) Has anybody had any problems with using floppy drives under SoftPC? Even when I "attach" a drive it doesn't read from the FileManager - it says the disk is not formatted, without even accessing the drive. System is as follows: 486dx266, ATi GUP, 24mb Ram, 1GB SCSI2 HD, one 3.5" floppy, Adaptec 1542 (was a 2842 until I had to swap with someone :(...) and MediaVision pas16. Thanks! Mark Schwettmann schwett@netcom.com or schwett@soda.berkeley.edu Now to try SLIP!
From: tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MacIIfx internal SCSI terminator in a Cube? Date: 24 Feb 1994 09:08:18 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Message-ID: <2khqq2$62c@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <lagardeCLnDIz.1y6@netcom.com> In <lagardeCLnDIz.1y6@netcom.com> lagarde@netcom.com (Jean Lagarde) writes: >a while back (I can't find the article), someone proposed using a >MacIIfx internal terminator to properly terminate a SCSI bus in a >Cube with no internal drive. I use a Macintosh internal terminator that an Apple shop let me have for $5. I don't know whether or not it is for a MacIIfx. It is a small piggy back board. I was less worried about using the wrong terminator than no terminator at all. -- .. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
From: hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3.2-Drivers with 3.1??? Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:42:34 GMT Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <2kiasaEsnq@uni-erlangen.de> Hi! Yesterday, I tried to install the brand-new Adaptec 154x-Driver for the 1542C, 1542CF and so on. It only exists for 3.2, but I'm still using 3.1. I tried it... ... and it works FINE! My question: Which Drivers work with 3.1? (I think, there's no Graphic-driver, but what's with Sound- and Tape-drivers?) I know, that is was luck, and please, don't try to do the same, if you don't have a backup of your disk! If mine crashs, I will post it. (Hopefully never) A tip: If your configuration failed, boot with: sd()mach_kernel config=Default (if you are using SCSI) have fun, Harry ======================================================== Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler Uni-Erlangen hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: uphya001@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (Lars Koeller ) Subject: Driver for AH1742 EISA ,ET4000/W32i and Soundblaster Pro? Message-ID: <CLqD1I.Mov@informatik.uni-rostock.de> Sender: news@informatik.uni-rostock.de (News Account) Organization: University of Rostock (Germany) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:20:05 GMT -- Hi! I have an 486DX2-66 with 20 MB RAM, an AH1742 EISA SCSI Controller, a Soundblaster Pro, and an ET4000/W32i VESA LB vido card. My question is when will there be device drivers for the listed hardware? Especially a driver for the Adaptec 1742 in enhanced mode? Thanks Lars ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lars Koeller E-Mail: uphya001@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Universitaet Rostock (Germany) uphya001@hp1.Uni-Rostock.DE Fachbereich Physik Phone: +49 381/498-1670 or 498-1648 Universitaetsplatz 3 Fax: +49 381/498-1626 18051 Rostock
From: rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with EtherLinkIII and NS/I 3.2 Date: 24 Feb 1994 15:05:06 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <2kifn2$qmj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I recently made the switch to NeXTStep and absolutely love it! I quickly realized that the 3C509 driver doesn't support twisted pair (although not as quickly as I would have liked :). So...what we did was put a transceiver on the AUI port, and that seemed to fix it. However, I've noticed that every so often, the machine looses conectivity. From the outside, it isn't reachable via ping, and unless netinfo gets confused by the problem, I can do a soft reboot which fixes the problem. Any suggestions as to how to go about fixing the problem? Ultimately, if this isn't going to work, I could probably get another Ethernet card, although I may end up paying for it. What would be the best one to get in this case? BTW, this is in a Gateway 66V w/ Adaptec 1542CF and GW-ATI Ultra Pro. Thanks. Richard Foote(rfoote) Public Health Policy and Administration School of Public Health University of Michigan
From: Cormac Liam Kinney <ck2w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Boot CD ROM Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 14:41:07 -0500 Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8hPE=Hi00UhBE3q5Uq@andrew.cmu.edu> Hello, I need to boot NS 3.0 CD from a SCSI2 Sun (Sony) CD ROM, and haven't been able to get anything to work. Hard drive (Seagate ST1410 400MB) spins up, clicks, and spins down. Does anybody know anything about this? Any suggestions are appreciated. cormac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bksmith@bugstomper.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Brian K. Smith) Subject: Re: Problems with EtherLinkIII and NS/I 3.2 Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu Message-ID: <1994Feb24.231124.55617@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 23:11:24 GMT References: <2kifn2$qmj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: Colorado School of Mines In article <2kifn2$qmj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote) writes: > I recently made the switch to NeXTStep and absolutely love it! I quickly > realized that the 3C509 driver doesn't support twisted pair (although not > as quickly as I would have liked :). So...what we did was put a > transceiver on the AUI port, and that seemed to fix it. However, I've > noticed that every so often, the machine looses conectivity. > Ultimately, if this > isn't going to work, I could probably get another Ethernet card, although > I may end up paying for it. What would be the best one to get in this case? > BTW, this is in a Gateway 66V w/ Adaptec 1542CF and GW-ATI Ultra Pro. I have Gateway 66V and I connect to my network with a BNC. Originally, I had the Etherlink III card, and had the same proplem with the connection going out on me. Also, when I look at large file folders on the file server, it would take along time for the computer to load and display the files. After reading in the installation book that the Etherlink had a small buffer, and needed some special settings for mounting the remote file system. I had Gateway exchange my Etherlink card for an Intel EtherExpress and I have none of those problems anymore. Brian K. Smith bksmith@mines.colorado.edu
From: sean@alpine.com (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Crud: A New Idea for NeXTSTEP Date: 24 Feb 1994 13:20:29 -0800 Organization: Disorganization Message-ID: <2kj5mt$5lu@magnusson.alpine.com> References: <1994Feb20.155930.13691@xexos.com> Well, yes. It's an AWFUL name for a language. The name stems from calling it Crud (because it is) until it's finished in some way, whence its name will be changed. Actually, I'm entertaining name changes now, since Crud now has an email group and a real (albeit small) community. So it's now time for the name to change. Sean -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke milk:-cows. | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu (if (cows) 'milk) | | if only I spoke for Alpine... [milk set:[cows val]]; |
From: root@ganu.Colorado.EDU (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! mount RICOH OPTICAL on Black hardware Date: 24 Feb 1994 22:39:31 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kjab3$b5c@sanitas.Colorado.EDU> Keywords: optical, disktab, RICOH Hello, I have been unable to mount (and /or format) a Ricoh optical disk. Sdformat -v gave me the following information: INQUIRY Peripheral Device Type: 0x0 (read/write disk) Removable Media: Yes Device-Type Modifier: 0x0 ISO Version: 0 ECMA Version: 0 ANSI-Approved Version: SCSI 1 Additional Length: 91 Vendor Identification: 'RICOH ' Product Identification: 'RO-5030E ' Product Revision Level: 'CC ' Vendor-Specific Parameters: '' sr_io_status = 0x3 "check status, sr_esense not valid" SCSI status = 02H "Check Condition" Error during Mode Sense The SCSI Device at target ID 2 did not respond to the Mode Sense command, and probably cannot be formatted with any block size other than it's default. Can some one tell me how to do this, please. Maybe a disktab entry is needed? -Thanks, -Nimal Gamage - University of Colorado Boulder -gamage@boulder.colorado.edu
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD ROM Message-ID: <141105@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 25 Feb 94 01:00:38 GMT Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology OK... If I want to get a CD-ROM for my NeXT (moto '40 cube) that I could also hook up to an IBM-PC (ISA Bus) not necassarily at the same time (i.e. power down & swap cables).. what brand/type CD-ROM would you recommend? Would I need to get hardware for my PC (i.e. something to give me a SCSI connection). Is there a way to have both machines using the drive (i.e. via network)? Any info is gladly accepted. -- David W Rinker Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202 Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: tip black to white HELP Date: 25 Feb 1994 03:16:24 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2kjqi8$pb3@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I have routinely "tip"ed my app from black to black hardware. I just installed on white hardware and have transfered (with tip) small files balck to white. When i try to transfer my tarred, compressed and uuencoded app (at 2.6MB) the transfer loses 40 bytes. Needles to say, that is a complete failure. In summary black to black tip of large files works black to white fails. any help out there?? I also tried white to white, but even though i had a tip cub9600 connection, the transfer rate was 2400 baud, to slow to test the large file transfer. any help out there? advTHANKSance jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) Subject: Mounting Extended DOS Partition... Message-ID: <schwettCLsA6F.5yw@netcom.com> Summary: Help me mount! Keywords: mount nsfip dos Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:13:27 GMT Hi! Does anybody know the syntax to mount an extended dos partition on my primary SCSI drive (the same one I boot NS of off)... The first DOS partition is automounted, but no luck with the extended... Thanks in advance, Mark Schwettmann
From: rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ATI GUP Clips in 800x600 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 25 Feb 1994 16:09:42 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <2kl7s6$44i@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <CLK95J.H23@utstat.toronto.edu> Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote: : Is there a reason why I get clipping ( screen noise when moving a window, : like a horizontal pair of clippers) using an ATI VL GUP (2megs) at 800x600 : (16bit) but not at 1024x768 (16bits) nor 1180x832 (16bits)? Does this occur : with the #9 card (S3 based one)? : Is 24 megs enough? I've gotten the same clipping which is very annoying. What makes it even worse is that apparently the Gateway ATI card which I have won't run in any mode but 800x600 color. In the "8 bit" modes, it looks like it's only displaying 8 shades of gray which is nice for text (lack of clipping), but little else. If anybody knows a way around this... Richard Foote (rfoote@umich.edu) PHPA/SPH University of Michigan
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <2klaja$eaf@news.acns.nwu.edu> Control: cancel <2klaja$eaf@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: 25 Feb 1994 16:56:34 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <2klak2$eaj@news.acns.nwu.edu> <2klaja$eaf@news.acns.nwu.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ATI GUP Clips in 800x600 Date: 25 Feb 1994 16:59:43 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2klapv$eb6@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <CLK95J.H23@utstat.toronto.edu> <2kl7s6$44i@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <2kl7s6$44i@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Richard J. Foote <rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu> wrote: >Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote: >: Is there a reason why I get clipping ( screen noise when moving a window, >: like a horizontal pair of clippers) using an ATI VL GUP (2megs) at 800x600 >: (16bit) but not at 1024x768 (16bits) nor 1180x832 (16bits)? Does this occur >: with the #9 card (S3 based one)? > >: Is 24 megs enough? Odd, I would have expected it at the higher resolutions, not the lower. Which rev (3 or 6) chipset do you have on your ATI board? Since you run at 1180x832 I would think you have the rev 6. I have not seen this on my rev 6 ATI board. > >I've gotten the same clipping which is very annoying. What makes it even >worse is that apparently the Gateway ATI card which I have won't run in any >mode but 800x600 color. In the "8 bit" modes, it looks like it's only >displaying 8 shades of gray which is nice for text (lack of clipping), but >little else. If anybody knows a way around this... > Gateway is shipping ATI boards with DRAM these days. That type of ram is not good for high performance Video work. ATI's chips use some tricks to get good performance at 800x600 resolutions, but at anything higher (especially with 12 bit color) its completely inadequate. You really need Vram, but you cannot get it from Gateway these days. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: shi@napoli.ks.uiuc.edu (Zhouhong Joel Shi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: problem with NeXT laser printer Date: 25 Feb 1994 18:13:47 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2klf4r$cmo@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: laser printer I just got a new NeXT laser printer from Pixelated Tech, Inc. The printer has a problem of not knowing its cover open or close. So whenever the paper is jammed, I have to reboot the system to make it work again. I shipped the printer back and then got an exchange. Now this time, my NeXT computer does know the printer cover is open, but it does not know when I put the cover back. So, whenever I open the cover, all printing jobs are held forever. Some hint: I have two other NeXT printers, when I open the cover and then put it back, I can hear some motor running sound. But for the trouble printer, there is no such sound. Is this a hardware related problem or simply a software problem of the computer? Any comments? Also, is there anyway to restart the printer while not to reboot the system? Thanks in advance. -- Joel Shi +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Programming and System Administration |Theoretical Biophysics shi@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu |University of Illinois Tel: (217)-244-1851 |3149 Beckman Institute Fax: (217)-244-6078 |405 N Mathews, Urbana, IL61801 NeXTmail Ok +-------------------------------------------------------------------- +--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John (kzin) Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Message-ID: <141258@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 25 Feb 94 18:36:14 GMT References: <demarest.760786427@rerf.or.jp> Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU demarest@rerf.or.jp (Timothy Demarest) writes: >I have drive 0 set up as a master IDE drive with DOS >on it. I set up a 345 Mb IDE drive as drive 1 and made >it a slave. I installed NS on the second drive. When I boot >without the floppy it goes into DOS. If I want NS I boot >from the floppy and type hd(1,a)mach_kernel and it starts to boot >NS, except that it tries to fsck on hd0a!!! >I know this sounds boneheaded, but can NS coexist with 2 IDE >drives and be on the slave drive? Or does NS have to be on >the master disk? >Anyone running a similar set up? Yeah, I have a *similar* set up. I have one ide drive that is 405mb (primary drive) and a second that is 255mb. The latter was actually my original drive. On the 405mb drive I have 400mb NS partition and a 1mb OS/2 BootManager. On the 255mb drive I have a primary dos partition (100mb), a logical dos partition (65mb), and a logical OS/2 partition (65ish-mb) I have boot manager set up to boot to any of the 3 os's at my choice. Your main problem is that PC's will only boot to the primary hard drive. (or a floppy...but no other hard drives). You need to do one of 3 things: 1) re-arrange things so that you have 1 HD that has boot partitions for both OS's.. I don't know what hte minimum boot setup for NS is.. but if you were to have one drive with all NS except a small Dos boot partition, adn then the other drive with Dos on it, that'd work. 2) get a free-ware boot-manager utility. I know they exist, I just don't know where to find them. 3) get OS/2, and use it's boot manager (it works quite well). The OS/2 for Windows on CD-ROM edition is only about $40.. Cheaper than the price of SCSI CD-ROM drivers from Adaptec :-) (one of the reasons I bought it.. ). I think that in comparison to DOS and Windows it's a better setup.. and the Bootmanager makes it easy for my to share all of these OS's on my system. (note, I'm primarily a NS user, but there are some things that it's cheaper for me to do under DOS.. which is why I bought OS/2, cuz I'd rather do Dos/windows things in an intelligent environment :-) (and OS/2 is cheaper than SoftPC) Also note that NS will only mount your primary DOS partition on any given drive.. So, my primary dos partition gets mounted under NS, but not the logical dos partition. (I don't expect NS to mount the OS/2 hpfs partition, but that'd be cool if they start supporting hpfs). This is mildly annoying, but also kinda understandable. I've been thinking about re-installing my second HD so that I have 1 large dos partition, wiht a logical OS/2 partition. (for technical reasons, os/2 has to exist as a logical partition if it's going to mount your primary dos partition from the same drive.. when I had both a primary dos partition and a primary os/2 partition, os/2 wouldn't mount the primary dos partition.. kind of silly..seeing as NS will..and is therefore an os or filesystem limitation, not a hardware limitation, but I'm getting off the track here). Hope this helps. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) ===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.============== DOOM ON YOU!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Subject: looking for 040 upgrade kit Message-ID: <1994Feb25.185705.2143@agog.com> Sender: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Organization: Agog, Inc. Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:57:05 GMT If anyone has an 040 upgrade kit for sale please send mail to ag@wildfire.com. He wants to upgrade his 030. -greg. -- Greg Cockroft greg@agog.com Agog, Inc. 13780 North River Highway Grand Ledge, MI 48837
From: Tim Bissell Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Date: 25 Feb 1994 14:32:07 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Message-ID: <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> References: <141105@hydra.gatech.EDU> In comp.sys.next.misc article <1994Feb25.040425.1072@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> you wrote: > > Are there any advanced or more complete dictionaries? > -- The *definitive* English Dictionary is available on CD-ROM, the 2nd. Edition Oxford English Dictionary. Available from the Oxford University Press for around 500 pounds, it has (unfortunately) only a MS-DOS (WinDoze?) interface, but should be accessible from SoftPC. tim -- Work: bisselt@gb.swissbank.com | +44 71 711 2984 | Ducati 750SS Home: tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk | +44 480 451 022 | DoD#174
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cbradley@bozell.com (Chris Bradley) Subject: Re: Tape backup recommendations (NS/fip+OS/2) Message-ID: <1994Feb25.165633.12123@bozell.com> Sender: news@bozell.com Organization: Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. References: <1994Feb15.002147.16553@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:56:33 GMT In article <1994Feb15.002147.16553@adobe.com> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: > Specifically, does anyone know if the WangTek (or WangDAT) 2.0 Gig DAT > drive will work with NS/FIP and DOS/Windows? There's a local store > selling factory refurbs for $495 (internal, regularly priced $995), > which is a great deal if the drive will work with my operating systems! We use the WangDAT 3100 mechanism with NEXTSTEP 3.2. Works great. -- Chris Bradley | cbradley@bozell.com Techno-Slave, with Many Masters | +1 214 830 2273 vox Bozell, Jacobs, Kenyon & Eckhardt, Inc. | +1 214 830 2687 fax Advertising and Public Relations | "Born ready"
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I mix 100ns SIMMS and 80ns SIMMS?(Motorola) Date: 26 Feb 1994 01:31:33 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2km8pl$4tt@agate.berkeley.edu> My 25 mghz 040 Cube currently has 8 1MB 100ns SIMMS in half the slots. I'm thinking about getting 8 2 MB SIMMS for the other half, for a total of 24 MB RAM. Is mixing SIMM speeds a problem? Please email me at cooncat@mingus.mills.edu. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PAS16 Date: 25 Feb 1994 21:18:11 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402260209.AA12158@PCS.CNU.EDU> Ok, so I'm looking for a sound card to add to my system for NeXTSTEP. I think the ProAudioSpectrum 16 is about $200/$250, right?? Well, there is this board called the Pro...something...BASIC and it claims 100% PAS16 compat & 100% SoundBlaster compat -- and it even lists compat w/ NeXTSTEP on the back of the box. It cost $109 from Waldensoftware. It will sample in 16-bit stereo up to 44Khz -- is this a good board?? Is it compat w/ NS for sure?? Is it in fact 100% PAS compat?? Thanks. bp =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness = =-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: CD ROM In-Reply-To: Tim Bissell's message of 25 Feb 1994 14:32:07 GMT To: Tim Bissell Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb25181716@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <141105@hydra.gatech.EDU> <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:17:16 GMT In article <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Tim Bissell writes: In comp.sys.next.misc article <1994Feb25.040425.1072@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> you wrote: > Are there any advanced or more complete dictionaries? The *definitive* English Dictionary is available on CD-ROM, the 2nd. Edition Oxford English Dictionary. Available from the Oxford University Press for around 500 pounds, it has (unfortunately) only a MS-DOS (WinDoze?) interface, but should be accessible from SoftPC. Of course there is also a UN*X version which allows network clients which compile just fine under NS. So some of us are lucky enough just to be able to say 'ox2 foobar' and get the complete Oxford 2 definition at any time without using up a CD ROM drive or more than a few tens of kBytes for the client. Carl Edman
From: kslwong@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Kingsley Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Drivers for SoundBlaster, SCSI card and more! Date: 26 Feb 1994 07:59:47 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Message-ID: <2kmvhj$4en@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> I currently using MS-DOS and WFWG 3.11. However, these OS are very unstable, unfriendly and frustrating. I think of moving to NeXTStep for Intel but I don't know if my hardware is compatible with NeXTStep or not. The following is a list of my hardware: 1.A Intel 486/DX2 66 2.Ami Bios (date 08/08/93) - I cannot remember the version! 3.SIS chip set 4.Soundblaster 16 ASP with WaveBlaster 5.Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card 6.Conner CP-30544 IDE HD 7.Tekram DC-680C IDE cache card 8.Diamond Viper VLB 2MB video card. 9.A normal I/O card for my Serial/parallel port (with 16550A chip) 10.NEC 3Xe CD-ROM 11.Sony SMO-C301-00E MO driver (128MB) 12. Netcomm M7F modem 14400bps 13. HP DeskJet 500C 14. HP ScanJet IIcx Thanks for your advice!! Regards, Kingsley
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Date: 26 Feb 1994 12:47:12 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2kngcg$pfl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <141105@hydra.gatech.EDU> <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <CEDMAN.94Feb25181716@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Feb25181716@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: >In article <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Tim Bissell writes: > In comp.sys.next.misc article <1994Feb25.040425.1072@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> > you wrote: > > Are there any advanced or more complete dictionaries? > > The *definitive* English Dictionary is available on CD-ROM, the 2nd. > Edition Oxford English Dictionary. Available from the Oxford University > Press for around 500 pounds, it has (unfortunately) only a MS-DOS > (WinDoze?) interface, but should be accessible from SoftPC. > >Of course there is also a UN*X version which allows network clients >which compile just fine under NS. So some of us are lucky enough just >to be able to say 'ox2 foobar' and get the complete Oxford 2 >definition at any time without using up a CD ROM drive or more than a >few tens of kBytes for the client. > > Carl Edman > Can we have more info on this? As in where to get the Un*x sw, what it is, how install, etc. (i.e.) all one needs to do what is described above). Thanks Robert de Lucca Johns Hopkins University
From: u7913108@CCCA.NCTU.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: ReelMagic -- multimedia in life Date: 26 Feb 1994 12:14:31 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <2knef7$36a@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Hi, I came back from our local Multimedia Show, and found something interesting call *ReelMagic*. With it, you can see the MTV or movie (Video CD, MPEG CD-title also called CD-i). You can get full-motion by the card. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Real Video Magic with ReelMagic Sigma Designs has released *ReelMagic* an MPEG multimedia play back controller card for PC's. It delivers full screen, full motion and full color video with CD quality sound from a standard CD-ROM. ReelMagic is based on MPEG compression standard used by many multimedia software companies. These MPEG capabilities will allow standard PC's to take advantage of the upcoming VideoCD standard. VideoCD allows movie, TV shows and videos to be played from a standard CD-ROM. It is a multiplatform standard backed by the VideoCD consortium, which includes 3DO, Phillips, Sony, JVC, Masushita, Goldstar and samsung. There are already major movie studios committed to supply films in the VideoCD format. MPEG can achieve compression ratios as high as 200 to 1 allowing high quality audio and video to be played directly from a single speed CD-ROM. ReelMagic is already supported by 12 entertainment and multimedia titles and the first Video CD titles are expected at the end of 93. The card comes with an easy to use installation program on CD-ROM, a full array of drivers and system software, utilities and a MPEG game. Price:$449 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The article is from Multi Media magazine, maybe it is illeagle to post it on Net. But I think it can give you an overview about the card. Maybe someone will want to write a driver for it. It also show the light for the DSP bundle with NeXT workstation or the DSP card. I am very interesting with the DSP card for my NeXTSTEP/FIP computer. Maybe they can write a player App. If anyone have the experience with the DSP card, please let me know. I want to know the compatibility of the card with workstation. Also like to see if someone will want to write a driver for ReelMagic, it's not bad. Hope you enjoy it Mark PS:1. I don't have OCR, so if there is something mistake in the article, maybe it's the mistake of my typing. 2. Not NeXTmail to this account
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Re: Can I mix 100ns SIMMS and 80ns SIMMS?(Motorola) Message-ID: <CLuBBo.E6z@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <2km8pl$4tt@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:33:22 GMT Jessica L. Mosher (cooncat@gershwin) wrote: : My 25 mghz 040 Cube currently has 8 1MB 100ns SIMMS in half the slots. : I'm thinking about getting 8 2 MB SIMMS for the other half, for a total of : 24 MB RAM. : Is mixing SIMM speeds a problem? : Please email me at cooncat@mingus.mills.edu. : -- No, if you have the same kind of simms (megs, ns, and paged/nibble) in groups of 4 slots there's no problem. But I think NeXT cubes only take 1 meg or 4 meg simms, so be careful. It's in the faq, i think.
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Msoft Date: 26 Feb 1994 12:51:41 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402261844.AA13378@PCS.CNU.EDU> Can someone describe to me what the "Microsoft Sound Board Kit" is?? What it will emulate, etc.? Thanks. bp =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness = =-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Date: 26 Feb 1994 21:23:24 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2koekc$fkq@digdug.pencom.com> References: <141258@hydra.gatech.EDU> In article <141258@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John (kzin) Rudd) writes: > >it a slave. I installed NS on the second drive. When I boot > >without the floppy it goes into DOS. If I want NS I boot > >from the floppy and type hd(1,a)mach_kernel and it starts to boot > >NS, except that it tries to fsck on hd0a!!! Did you try making it the root device when you entered that. That is something like this: hd(1,a)mach_kernel rootdev=hd1a I have tried all kinds of boots and it has always worked. But I've never really tried this one, but give it a try. -- + Ricardo J. Parada "Imagination is more important than knowledge!"..-- Albert Einstein
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Microsoft Sound System repeats sound!! Date: 26 Feb 1994 23:52:04 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2konb4$f3d@digdug.pencom.com> I have a friend without access to the net that asked me if I knew how to solve a problem he has with the Microsoft Sound System he's using with NEXTSTEP. The problem is that the plays over and over again... Anyone has had this problem... Can it be fixed? Thanks in advance, -- + Ricardo J. Parada
From: js@vampir.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Date: 26 Feb 1994 19:57:47 GMT Organization: ICEM Systems Message-ID: <2ko9jr$bdd@vampir.hnv.icem.de> References: <141105@hydra.gatech.EDU> <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> TimBissell wrote: : > In comp.sys.next.misc article <1994Feb25.040425.1072@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> : > you wrote: : > > : > > Are there any advanced or more complete dictionaries? : > > -- : > The *definitive* English Dictionary is available on CD-ROM, the 2nd. : > Edition Oxford English Dictionary. Available from the Oxford University : > Press for around 500 pounds, it has (unfortunately) only a MS-DOS : > (WinDoze?) interface, but should be accessible from SoftPC. I heard about a product named ToolsBook which is said to be able to deal with this stuff. It's a NS App. Juergen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) Subject: Printer Woes... Message-ID: <schwettCLv4Hx.9F1@netcom.com> Summary: Help ME! Keywords: help me Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 03:03:33 GMT More Troubles in NeXTLand.. I have a LaerjetIV with the postscript SIMM, and can't get ANYTHING to print! When I try to print, it just says one or mor of the pages could not be printed - no lights on the printer or anything... I get the same result regardless of which HP IV driver I use (I think the other one came with Dots...) THe printer is connected to a parallel port (white hardware obviously)... I did install the Parallel port driver in the config app. Help! Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: CD ROM In-Reply-To: gaia@wam.umd.edu's message of 26 Feb 1994 12:47:12 GMT To: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb26102812@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <141105@hydra.gatech.EDU> <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> <CEDMAN.94Feb25181716@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2kngcg$pfl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 15:28:11 GMT In article <2kngcg$pfl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: In article <CEDMAN.94Feb25181716@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: >In article <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Tim Bissell writes: > In comp.sys.next.misc article <1994Feb25.040425.1072@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> > you wrote: > > Are there any advanced or more complete dictionaries? > > The *definitive* English Dictionary is available on CD-ROM, the 2nd. > Edition Oxford English Dictionary. Available from the Oxford University > Press for around 500 pounds, it has (unfortunately) only a MS-DOS > (WinDoze?) interface, but should be accessible from SoftPC. > >Of course there is also a UN*X version which allows network clients >which compile just fine under NS. So some of us are lucky enough just >to be able to say 'ox2 foobar' and get the complete Oxford 2 >definition at any time without using up a CD ROM drive or more than a >few tens of kBytes for the client. Can we have more info on this? As in where to get the Un*x sw, what it is, how install, etc. (i.e.) all one needs to do what is described above). The problem is not the software. It is the database. While the CD ROM version of the OED2 for PCs is far from cheap (at nearly $1k), I seem to remember that the UN*X server is several times more expensive (not surprisingly considering how many people can use it at once) and so probably out of reach for most individuals. Your best bet is to get your university to buy a license (if they haven't already) and install a server. If you can do that, getting the client source from your admins and compiling it on a NeXT should be no problem. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: 70313.1574@compuserve.com (Ron Wagner) MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at demon.demon.co.uk Subject: fsck help Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 04:34:05 +0000 Message-ID: <940227043404_70313.1574_CHV53-2@CompuServe.COM> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk I have a Intel box witha external harddrive I booted my system today and I got this message Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S) looking for block 0 label probing for DOS Filesystem name: DOS Feb 26 08:04:46 Workspace: Mounted DOS disk at /DOS /usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd0a Can't read label on /dev/rsd0a. (null pointer): CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. (null pointer): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. [try one more time...] /usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd0a /dev/rsd0a: PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=7 /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. Feb 26 08:05:07 Workspace[173]: no repair table on completion of repair of sd0 My question is what do I do now? My harddrive has approx 150 megs worth of programs and I wouldn't want to lose them My external drive is a Thanks in advance for any help Ron/exit
From: rwkaste@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Ned) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question/Query/Whatever Date: 27 Feb 1994 00:19:05 -0500 Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <2kpag9$mj0@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> Please don't shoot me for asking stupid questions- This is probably answered in a FAQ somewhere, if so, if someone could send me the FAQ, I'd be exceedingly grateful. OK - I am looking for an external hard drive for a NeXT '030 black cube. A few hundred extra megs would be a nice addition to our system, and I was wondering: 1) If such a thing exists (I assume it does.) 2) Where (private manufacturer, etc.) I might be able to get my hands on one. That's all. If you could mail responses to ned@vader.cc.emory.edu (NeXTmail welcome), I'd thank you in any way, shape or form I can think of... Thanks- -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ************************ "I can't get a license * |\ | |~~~~ |~~\ * To drive in my car * | \ | |__ | } * But I don't really need it * | \ | | | } * If I'm a big star" * | \| |____ |__/ * - Big Star - "O My Soul" ************************ _Insert Witticism Here_ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Microsoft Sound System repeats sound!! Date: Sun, 27 Feb 94 02:25:24 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <JC6ovIE.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2konb4$f3d@digdug.pencom.com> Try a DPT 2021/90 card, set as follows: SCSI DPT 2012-B EISA Adaptor DMA 5 Port = 0x170 IRQ = 15 MSW Sound DMA= 0 Port = 0x530 IRQ =10 Works well with our stuff. If you re using an Adaptec 1542C, we never had much success in getting quality. sound.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Status of c.s.n.h. split Message-ID: <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Summary: Status of the official RFD: reorganization of comp.sys.next.hardware Keywords: RFD, CFV, split, i386, m68k Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 12:02:13 GMT Hello everyone, I would like to remind everybody, a RFD concerning reorganisation of comp.sys.next.hardware has been submitted on the 7th of February. I proposed the split of comp.sys.next.hardware in two separate newsgroups, one for any hardware (man 3 arch) NEXTSTEP runs on. Because I preferred the developer's point of view, the RFD mentions the group names comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 "Hardware running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors" comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k "Hardware running NeXTSTEP for NeXT Computers" When new architectures are supported, new newsgroups should be created, using the name comp.sys.next.hardware.`/usr/bin/arch` So, if someone wants something to be changed before the voting process starts, I'd suggest you post your opinions. If e.g. there were strong arguments for other names of the groups (not only "I'd rather have a .intel newsgroup", but an argument), the names could still be changed in the CFV (Call For Votes), that will be submitted approx. 15th of March. Best Regards, Stephan P.S. Flames to my email address, every acceptable statement into comp.sys.next.hardware, please. I think, everyone reading this newsgroup now, will be affected by the split, and should therefore know your opinion. If you don't want to participate in the discussion, please don't complain later, (of course you can still vote "NO" ;-)). P.P.S. WHY A SPLIT? The postings in this newsgroup split clearly into two different groups (the two hardware architectures, NS runs on). A split if csnh would make reading easier, as the related articles are grouped together (even if I'd read both groups). Especially those netters, who are only interested in one architecture would profit. Just think about what's going to happen when HP-RISC, SPARC, and POWER-PC will be supported. It will be much harder to find related articles in the flood of different hardware. What should a NSfIP user want to know about the difficulties connecting a new DAT tape to the new HP Gecko (if not because of technical curiosity)... The questions connecting the all NEXTSTEP users better belong into the other comp.sys.next.* groups P.P.P.S. THE NAME OF THE GROUPS There has already been same debate on the correct name of those newsgroups. One could use the "user" names from the NeXT docs 'Intel Processors' & 'NeXT Computers' or shorten them to intel & next, or use the official NeXT/MACH "developer" names i386, m68k, sparc, ... I prefer the cpu types, personally, and I'd like to explain why: 1) why not intel/next? "intel" is only one of the CPU producing companies, "next" is the former hardware producing company what are we going to do, when other processors from intel are supported. There should be a strict naming rule for the hardware groups 2) why not i486 the official cpu type for all 80*86 processors from Intel (and clones) is i386 (man 3 arch, and the approriate header files), i486 is just a subtype e.g. different from the pentium. 3) why not black/white/yellow/green/... *&^%#(*#(*&... 4) why i386/m68k it's short, it's unique (till now, let's hope the best), and it's a rule (/usr/bin/arch) I have to admit, none of these approaches is ideal, but I think everyone can live with a newsgroup named by it's architecture, whose description includes the NXUser's name i.e. "for Intel Processors". -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: Status of c.s.n.h. split Message-ID: <espritCLw2yp.EuH@netcom.com> Followup-To: news.groups Keywords: RFD, CFV, split, i386, m68k Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 15:28:01 GMT In article <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de writes: >I would like to remind everybody, a RFD concerning >reorganisation of comp.sys.next.hardware has been >submitted on the 7th of February. I proposed the >split of comp.sys.next.hardware in two separate >newsgroups, one for any hardware (man 3 arch) >NEXTSTEP runs on. Because I preferred the developer's >point of view, the RFD mentions the group names > >When new architectures are supported, new newsgroups >should be created, using the name >comp.sys.next.hardware.`/usr/bin/arch` I strongly support the newsgroup split. I also support the group naming scheme described above. >P.S. Flames to my email address, every acceptable >statement into comp.sys.next.hardware, please. I think, >everyone reading this newsgroup now, will be affected >by the split, and should therefore know your opinion. Actually, this kind of discussion is supposed to be done in news.groups. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds /dev/null Software | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) Subject: COMPAQ 486/66M printing problem. Message-ID: <1994Feb27.194224.19439@cc.gatech.edu> Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu Organization: College of Computing Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 19:42:24 GMT Has anyone been able to print directly from such a machine (parallel port) to a printer (In this case a HP LaserJet III with a postcript cartridge) ? It seems that there is a // port address conflict where the EISA COMPAQ setup is not capable of changing its memory address and where NSI ask for a different one ? Further, changing the configuration on NSI // port does not work in practice. Has anyone been able to print from COMPAQ M machines in any other ways ? (Forget the network solution) ? Thanks in advance. Jean-Marc
From: lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is anyone working on NCR SCSI drivers? Date: 27 Feb 1994 20:00:07 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2kqu47$g1l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Will there be support for the on-board NCR SCSI controller most PCI boards have in the near future? Is anyone already working on such a driver? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Grupe UID lunde <lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de> Technische Universitaet Berlin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Can I mix 100ns SIMMS and 80ns SIMMS?(Motorola) Message-ID: <CLuE0u.1Ct@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2km8pl$4tt@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 17:31:42 GMT In article <2km8pl$4tt@agate.berkeley.edu> cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) writes: #My 25 mghz 040 Cube currently has 8 1MB 100ns SIMMS in half the slots. #I'm thinking about getting 8 2 MB SIMMS for the other half, for a total of #24 MB RAM. #Is mixing SIMM speeds a problem? You can mix the speed but I don't think the cube will work with 2meg SIMMs. I have never heard of a cube working with 2 meg SIMMs so I could be wrong but I think your only choices are 1 or 4 meg SIMMs. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: PAS16 Message-ID: <CLuE4F.1DK@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <9402260209.AA12158@PCS.CNU.EDU> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 17:33:51 GMT In article <9402260209.AA12158@PCS.CNU.EDU> bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) writes: # Ok, so I'm looking for a sound card to add to my system for NeXTSTEP. #I think the ProAudioSpectrum 16 is about $200/$250, right?? Well, there is #this board called the Pro...something...BASIC and it claims 100% PAS16 #compat & 100% SoundBlaster compat -- and it even lists compat w/ NeXTSTEP on #the back of the box. It cost $109 from Waldensoftware. It will sample #in 16-bit stereo up to 44Khz -- is this a good board?? Is it compat w/ NS #for sure?? Is it in fact 100% PAS compat?? Thanks. It is %100 PAS compatible and I paid $88 for one a couple of weeks ago to put into my PC. The biggest difference between it and the PAS is that the PAS has a SCSI port and the basic doesn't. Under DOS and Win. there is but one driver for this and the PAS. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Date: 27 Feb 1994 14:57:54 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402272040.AA00310@hurka> Hello Timothy, demarest@rerf.or.jp (Timothy Demarest) writes: >I have drive 0 set up as a master IDE drive with DOS >on it. I set up a 345 Mb IDE drive as drive 1 and made >it a slave. I installed NS on the second drive. When I boot >without the floppy it goes into DOS. If I want NS I boot >from the floppy and type hd(1,a)mach_kernel and it starts to boot >NS, except that it tries to fsck on hd0a!!! I had the same problem when I had wanted to boot from my second SCSI disk - removable SyQuest on 'sd1a'. To solve it I must manually change /etc/fstab on SyQuest. Originally the file look like this: -------------------------------------------------- # # DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING # # This file contains information used to mount local hard disks. # Consult your Network and System Administration manual # for information on adding local disks. Information on the format # of entries in this file can also be found in the fstab man page. # /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 [EOF] I changed it to: /dev/sd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 [EOF] to mount sd1a as root filesystem instead of sd0a. I think you should put there something like: /dev/hd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 I hope it helps you. Best regards, Tomas Hurka
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jinkim@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jin Kim) Subject: Using Adaptec 1542CF with >1GB drives. Message-ID: <1994Feb27.213858.6887@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 21:38:58 GMT Hi. I read in NeXTanswers@next.com that NeXTstep 3.2 (Intel) does not support using hard disks greater than 1GB with Adaptec 1542CF. What does this mean? Does it mean that it won't work? Is anybody using a hard disk greater than 1GB out there? I would like to use the seagate ST11200N to be specific. I haven't purchased the drive yet, but would like to know before spending $900 for the drive. Also, what about a greater than 1GB partitioned to less than 1GB? How does NS 3.2 run in color with 16MB or 20MB or ram? Any answers to questions above will be much appreciated. Thanks. Jin jinwkim@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu or jin-kim@uiowa.edu
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone working on NCR SCSI drivers? Date: 27 Feb 1994 22:38:02 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kr7ca$bq7@inxs.concert.net> References: <2kqu47$g1l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <2kqu47$g1l@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) writes: > Will there be support for the on-board NCR SCSI controller most > PCI boards have in the near future? > Is anyone already working on such a driver? > We have such a driver...(beta form only) and it is being evaluated and a customer's system here in the southeast...it seems to work pretty flawlessly on our DEC XL as well. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Floptical EJECT! Doh! Message-ID: <CLwpH6.9oJ@cc.umontreal.ca> Summary: Will you come out please? Keywords: In use, busy, go away Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:34:17 GMT Why is it that whenever I use a floptical for a while, when the time comes to eject the disk, Workspace thinks some application is using the disk? It won't let me eject it, yet I've made sure that all apps, including Terminal.app, are no longer using it. I even quit apps and still Workspace is deluded. Do I need an upgrade from 3.0 to 3.2? How do I eject a disk to use another one? It is Real Annoying(tm) The floptical is not the main system disk. Merci Beaucoup, chers amis. Me, My Cube, and My Magneto Optical. -- The internet, an "Information SuperSidewalk" with lots of foot traffic. -- Odisseas Kosmatos, Future owner of Microsoft Corp. Who will dismantle the company and free mankind forever.
From: hoops!me@netcom.com (Jon Hooper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PowerHouse Article in Business Week Date: 27 Feb 1994 20:34:17 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402271045.AA00331@hoops> I found this article in the latest issue of Business Week(March 7,1994) and thought it would give those pining for the NRW some hope. It looks like we should be seeing some machines by early 1995. I can't wait. Summary of article follows: Dateline: March 7, 1994 Business Week Magazine A COMPUTER MAKER'S POWER MOVE _________________________________________________________ With a speedy new chip, PowerHouse Systems wants to challenge Intel _________________________________________________________ Steve Job's NeXT Computer Inc. dropped out of the brutally competetive computer making business a year ago to concentrate on the higher margin software market. But a handful of former NeXT employees apparently didn't get the message. On March 1 , PowerHouse Systems Inc. - founded by a group of former NeXT Hardware designers with $11 million in seed money from NeXT partner Canon Inc. - will announce plans to provide computer makers with everything from blueprints to entire systems based on the PowerPC microprocessor. That's the speedy silicon brain created byApple,IBM, and Motorola. Using Powerhouse's designs, computer makers will be able to build PowerPC machines quickly. The ultimate result may be a PowerPC clone market that will eat into Intel Corp.'s near-monopoly on the microprocessors used by the $43 billion PC industry. BIG GUNS. Already, PowerHouse - started by Jon Rubinstein, formerly NeXT's chief designer of hardware - has snagged a big ally in Japan's Canon Inc. Canon will build and sell PowerHouse-designed desktop machines. It also is providing management muscle: Hideyo Kondo, a Canaon director, is CEO of the start-up. Rubinstein, chief operating officer, hopes to sign up three or four more customers by early 1995, when he expects to unveil his machines. "We're just trying to push alot of large companies who can pull this off," he says. The PowerPC chip already is gaining momentum. On Feb. 22 Canon signed a separate deal with IBM to use the chip in computer and office products. Canon is also teaming with Big Blue to develop PowerPC subnotebooks and PDA's. "Canon's expertise in the consumer end of the market is going to help us out dramatically," says Richard A. Guarino, general manager for IBM's Power Personal Systems unit. On Mar. 14, the PowerPC will receive a major boost: Apple Computer Inc. will introduce new Macintosh computers that use the chip. Rubinstein and his 50 employees know the PowerPC intimately. At NeXT they had completed a PowerPC machine before Jobs pulled the plug on the business. Now the company hopes to be among the first ot capitalize on the chip's key advantages. Because ti uses a more efficient technology called RISC, the PowerPC offers as much as double the power of Intel's new Pentium chip at the same price, analysts say. That allows functions such as graphics or video compression to be included in the basic machine. Rubinstein expects to set his company apart by specializing in machines that can use more than one PowerPC chip at a time. He claims PowerHouse's first machines, at $3000 to $6000 will run even faster than todays engineering workstations. Canon's expertise in printers, cameras, and copiers may provide another edge: Rubinstein plans to imbed these imaging technologies into his hardware. Even with help from its friends , PowerHouse faces sizable challenges. For one there's no guarantee that other computer makers will want PowerHouse's designs, which will adhere to specs set out by IBM, Motorola, and Canon among others. And the PowerPC is no shoo-in . It doesn't yet work with Windows, the Microsoft operating system that runs thousands of PC programs. Software to do that will begin to trickle out only during the last half of 1994. As a result, PowerHouse's fate rests largely on forces out of its control. Even its moniker is in doubt: Rubinstein recently discovered that another company already uses it. Still, if PowerHouse can pull off even a few of its plans, it will surely make a name for itself. By Robert D. Hof, Neil Gross, Ira Sager Business Week/March 7, 1994 _____________________________________________________________________ Hopefully these machines will run NeXtStep on multiple processors as well as the MacOS. ______________________________________________________________________ Jon Hooper hoops!me@netcom.com ______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,news.groups From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Status of c.s.n.h. split In-Reply-To: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de's message of Sun, 27 Feb 1994 12:02:13 GMT To: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb27180817@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:08:15 GMT In article <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) writes: I would like to remind everybody, a RFD concerning reorganisation of comp.sys.next.hardware has been submitted on the 7th of February. I proposed the split of comp.sys.next.hardware in two separate newsgroups, one for any hardware (man 3 arch) NEXTSTEP runs on. Because I preferred the developer's point of view, the RFD mentions the group names comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 "Hardware running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors" comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k "Hardware running NeXTSTEP for NeXT Computers" Couldn't agree with you more on the necessity, utility and naming of these groups. But what happened to the renaming of c.s.n.h to c.s.n.h.misc ? There are at least two reasons to keep a general hardware group. First, while there is less traffic which is not platform specific than some of the opponents of the renaming would have us believe there is some. In particular discussions of NS peripherals which work on all or most hardware platforms like SCSI devices, monitors, printers and modems need a forum. Second, as NS spreads to more and more hardware platforms those new platforms will need an area where they can be discussed until a group is created for them, especially as it is possible that some platforms will never generate enough traffic to justify a group for themselves. And while it is certainly possible to just keep c.s.n.h around for such purposes, it turns out that for many people it is an administrative inconvenience to have both articles and newsgroups within one directory. The common (and sensible) solution to this problem is rename parent groups which are split into subgroups by appending a .misc. So in this case I think that a rename of comp.sys.next.hardware to comp.sys.next.hardware.misc would be a good idea. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb) Subject: Re: Problems with EtherLinkIII and NS/I 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Feb26.183135.25435@bnlux1.bnl.gov> Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 Distribution: comp.sys.next.hardware, comp.sys.next.bugs Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 18:31:35 GMT In response to: > > > > From: rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote) > Subject: Problems with EtherLinkIII and NS/I 3.2 > Date: 24 Feb 1994 15:05:06 GMT > Organization: University of Michigan > Lines: 16 > Message-ID: <2kifn2$qmj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> > NNTP-Posting-Host: rwj.sph.umich.edu > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] > > I recently made the switch to NeXTStep and absolutely love it! I quickly > realized that the 3C509 driver doesn't support twisted pair (although not > as quickly as I would have liked :). So...what we did was put a > transceiver on the AUI port, and that seemed to fix it. However, I've > noticed that every so often, the machine looses conectivity. From the > outside, it isn't reachable via ping, and unless netinfo gets confused by > the problem, I can do a soft reboot which fixes the problem. Any > suggestions as to how to go about fixing the problem? Ultimately, if this > isn't going to work, I could probably get another Ethernet card, although > I may end up paying for it. What would be the best one to get in this case? > BTW, this is in a Gateway 66V w/ Adaptec 1542CF and GW-ATI Ultra Pro. Thanks. > > Richard Foote(rfoote) > Public Health Policy and Administration > School of Public Health > University of Michigan > > > I have the exact same problem. If I ping out I occasionally get long (~2000 ms) delay times. If I ping/telnet/ftp in the connection crashes in ~1 minute. Below I've included mail I sent to the people at NeXT: I recently purchased NS3.2 for a Gateway 66V machine with a III COM 16-bit 3C509-COMBO ethernet adapter. I'm hanging off an external AUI transceiver and I have the my card configured as follows: I/O Base Address 300h IRQ 10 Boot PROM Disabled Transceiver type AUI Network Driver Opt. DOS Client Maximum Modem No Modem . All my IP addresses are in order and I'm just running as a stand-alone system. However, I'm having some difficulty with TCP/IP utilities and mail. Specifically: (1) If I telnet in from an Ultrix Dec 5000 or an AIX IBM 6000 and login, I can leave the remote terminal idle for ~1 minute and the link hangs up (freezes). (2) A completely different, fully functional, cable/transceiver, from the office next door, has been swapped in and the same symptoms result. (3) I can telnet out of the NeXT/486 machine, and the link remains intact. However, on occasion (~1 minute), keyboard response lags noticably (5 secs). (4) Mail send to the NeXT/486 box frequently bounces back, and sometimes disappears. Now more pinging info than anybody could want: Dear NeXT and BNL CCD people: Here are the (extensive) results from pinging from my 486 box running the NeXTStep Unix OS to various nodes on both the local subnet and around the lab at large. Also include are similar tests between other nodes on my subnet and nodes on other subnets to see if the gateway we share is responsible for these difficulties. (Nope) pinging out results in every case in intermittant long delays that are accompanied by packet loss. However, with the exception of the tests with the Windows/486 box with the 3COM card, these test always continued until interrupted with a ^C. With the 486 box (sandra.phy.bnl.gov) the process seemed to lock up (see below - also note how slow this card is). pinging in always crashes, with no long waits. Obviously the long waits experienced pinging out result in crashes in this direction. At the bottom of this note I've also include the results of ifconfig en0 and netstat -r for your edification. ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from bleak.phy.bnl.gov (NS3.2) * * to the "loopback" address: 127.0.0.1 * * Everything here is OK * * * ********************************************************* 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=307. time=1. ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=308. time=1. ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=309. time=1. ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=310. time=1. ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=311. time=1. ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=312. time=1. ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=313. time=1. ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=314. time=1. ms ^C ----127.0.0.1 PING Statistics---- 315 packets transmitted, 315 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 1/1/52 bleak.phy.bnl.gov> ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from bleak.phy.bnl.gov (NS3.2) * * to an IBM 6000 on a different subnet * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=323. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=324. time=4. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=325. time=4. ms ^C ----solids.phy.bnl.gov PING Statistics---- 326 packets transmitted, 323 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 3/32/2006 comment: the following are funny lines: 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=113. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=115. time=2003. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=116. time=994. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=262. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=264. time=2006. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=265. time=996. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=266. time=4. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=267. time=4. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=268. time=4. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=269. time=5. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=270. time=5. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=271. time=4. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=273. time=2003. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=274. time=1044. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.20.73: icmp_seq=275. time=4. ms ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from bleak.phy.bnl.gov (NS3.2) * * to an ULTRIX DEC 5000 on a different subnet * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=246. time=4. ms ^C ----bnlux1.bnl.gov PING Statistics---- 247 packets transmitted, 244 packets received, 1% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 3/32/2005 bleak.phy.bnl.gov> **note: here are some funky pings . . . 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=64. time=5. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=67. time=2005. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=68. time=996. ms . . 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=162. time=4. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=164. time=2005. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=165. time=1062. ms . . . ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from bleak.phy.bnl.gov (NS3.2) * * to an IBM 6000 (theory.phy.bnl.gov) on the * * same subnet. Note that this series is by far * * the worst in terms of times. Pinging from the * * other direction craps out immediately * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** bleak.phy.bnl.gov> /etc/ping theory.phy.bnl.gov PING theory.phy.bnl.gov: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=1. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=2. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=3. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=4. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=7. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=8. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=9. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=10. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=11. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=12. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=13. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=14. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=15. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=16. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=19. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=20. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=21. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=22. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=23. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=24. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=25. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=30. time=2993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=31. time=1984. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=32. time=974. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=33. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=34. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=35. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=36. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=39. time=2003. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=40. time=994. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=41. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=44. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=45. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=50. time=2993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=51. time=1984. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=52. time=974. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=55. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=56. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=57. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=58. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=59. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=60. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=61. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=62. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=65. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=66. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=67. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=68. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=75. time=3982. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=80. time=4954. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=81. time=3945. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=82. time=2935. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=83. time=1926. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=85. time=2913. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=86. time=1904. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=87. time=894. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=88. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=89. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=90. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=91. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=92. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=93. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=94. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=95. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=96. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=99. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=100. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=103. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=104. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=105. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=106. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=107. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=108. time=3. ms ^C ----theory.phy.bnl.gov PING Statistics---- 109 packets transmitted, 73 packets received, 33% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 2/854/4954 ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from bleak.phy.bnl.gov (NS3.2) * * to a SUN (cmt1.phy.bnl.gov) on the * * same subnet. * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** . . . 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=75. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=76. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=77. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=80. time=2002. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=81. time=993. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=82. time=3. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=83. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=84. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=85. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=86. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=87. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=88. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=89. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=90. time=2. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=92. time=2001. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=93. time=992. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=94. time=3. ms . . . 64 bytes from 130.199.22.235: icmp_seq=194. time=2. ms ^C ----cmt1.phy.bnl.gov PING Statistics---- 195 packets transmitted, 192 packets received, 1% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 2/33/2002 bleak.phy.bnl.gov> ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from bleak.phy.bnl.gov (NS3.2) * * to a Windows 486 box(sandra.phy.bnl.gov) * * with a 3COM card on the same subnetwork. * * Note that this machine was the only one that * * "froze-up" (just before ^C) * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** 64 bytes from 130.199.22.233: icmp_seq=597. time=43. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.233: icmp_seq=598. time=21. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.233: icmp_seq=599. time=55. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.233: icmp_seq=600. time=34. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.233: icmp_seq=601. time=13. ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.233: icmp_seq=602. time=46. ms ^C ----130.199.22.233 PING Statistics---- 659 packets transmitted, 583 packets received, 11% packet loss round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 2/50/2052 bleak.phy.bnl.gov> ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from an IBM 6000 (solids) * * to my NeXTStep Box * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** solids.phy.bnl.gov> ping bleak.phy.bnl.gov PING bleak.phy.bnl.gov (130.199.22.65): 56 data bytes ^C --- bleak.phy.bnl.gov ping statistics --- 32 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss **note: immediate crap-out. However, if I telnet out of the *NS node, things are somehow reset, and I can telnet in, if *only for a while. ********** Second Try ********** 64 bytes from 130.199.22.65: icmp_seq=133 ttl=254 time=3 ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.65: icmp_seq=134 ttl=254 time=3 ms ^C --- bleak.phy.bnl.gov ping statistics --- 295 packets transmitted, 133 packets received, 54% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 3/4/20 ms **note: crapped out **note: no long time packets when transmission was working. ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from an IBM 6000 * * to an ULTRIX DEC 5000 * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=363 ttl=253 time=4 ms 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=364 ttl=253 time=4 ms 64 bytes from 130.199.128.1: icmp_seq=365 ttl=253 time=4 ms ^C --- bnlux1.bnl.gov ping statistics --- 366 packets transmitted, 366 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 3/6/94 ms solids.phy.bnl.gov> **NOTE: longest wait 94 ms !!!!!! ********************************************************* * * * These are pings from an IBM 6000 * * (solids.phy.bnl.gov) * * to an IBM 6000 (theory.phy.bnl.gov) on the * * same subnet as my NeXTStep machine. Note that * * this series is completely fine * * * ********************************************************* ********** First Try ********** 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=677 ttl=254 time=3 ms 64 bytes from 130.199.22.110: icmp_seq=678 ttl=254 time=14 ms ^C --- theory.phy.bnl.gov ping statistics --- 679 packets transmitted, 678 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 2/4/60 ms ********************************************************* * * * Here are the results of ifconfig & netstat * * on my NeXTSTEP node (bleak.phy.bnl.gov) * * * ********************************************************* bleak.phy.bnl.gov> /usr/etc/ifconfig en0 en0: flags=63<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING> inet 130.199.22.65 netmask fffffe00 broadcast 130.199.23.255 bleak.phy.bnl.gov> bleak.phy.bnl.gov> bleak.phy.bnl.gov> bleak.phy.bnl.gov> netstat -r Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface localhost localhost UH 2 1455 lo0 default charybdis.22.bnl.g UG 0 5485 en0 130.199.22 bleak U 4 5767 en0 Ben Sternlieb Assistant Physicist Neutron Scattering Group Brookhaven National Lab bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (516)-282-3817
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Subject: Re: Status of c.s.n.h. split Message-ID: <jgraceCLxAxJ.AL6@netcom.com> Keywords: RFD, CFV, split, i386, m68k Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 07:17:43 GMT Sounds like a good idea to me. I would change one thing, though. In article <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de writes: >comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 >"Hardware running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors" How about making that: comp.sys.next.hardware.i486 ^ since, after all, NEXTSTEP runs only on i486 and above (not i386)? Cheers, = Joe =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels) Subject: Re: Status of c.s.n.h. split Message-ID: <W6EMBFO@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 07:43:20 GMT Stephan Trebels (trebels@orpheus.theo-phys.gwdg.de) wrote: > Hello everyone, > I would like to remind everybody, a RFD concerning > reorganisation of comp.sys.next.hardware has been > submitted on the 7th of February. I proposed the > split of comp.sys.next.hardware in two separate > newsgroups, one for any hardware (man 3 arch) > NEXTSTEP runs on. Because I preferred the developer's > point of view, the RFD mentions the group names > comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 > "Hardware running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors" > comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k > "Hardware running NeXTSTEP for NeXT Computers" As I got several emails explaining, why a general hardware group would still be desirable, I hereby modify my RFD, adding another group to the hierarchy. PROPOSITION: create c.s.n.h.{i386,m68k} rename c.s.n.h to c.s.n.misc I don't think, it should be called .peripherals, as .misc seems to be the standard name for such a group allover the net. Ciao, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MO 128 - HELP! Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 04:42:10 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <p+7IPQC.ecesys@delphi.com> We are trying to get a Fujuitsu 128MB MO to work with white hardware adn get the following errors after trying to initialize the optical disk: probing for CDROM probing for DOS probing for mac probing for cdaudio disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label can't write label -- disk unusable!: I/O error The disk is then spit out. Any ideas out there.? We'd appreciate the help. Thanks, Marty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: charles@oneworld.wa.com Subject: Re: SoftPC on Intel (How good is it?) Message-ID: <1994Feb28.085750.2011@oneworld.wa.com> Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources References: <CLEwo8.DD3@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:57:50 GMT Only worked with SoftPC for a couple of days but I'm not impressed... Philip McDunnough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote: : In article <2jvech$l1t@cisun2000.unil.ch> Sean.Hill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean L. Hill) writes: : >Had anyone been able to run the Windows version of S-Plus on SoftPC : >under nextstep? : : S+ is a very important program ( which existed for black NeXT's). It's uses : the 32bit mode of 386's and 486's and hence won't run under SoftPC. : : I doubt that software emmulation is the answer to very much. : : -- : Philip McDunnough : University of Toronto : philip@utstat.toronto.edu : [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Status of c.s.n.h. split In-Reply-To: jgrace@netcom.com's message of Mon, 28 Feb 1994 07:17:43 GMT To: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Feb28074926@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <jgraceCLxAxJ.AL6@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 12:49:25 GMT In article <jgraceCLxAxJ.AL6@netcom.com> jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) writes: Sounds like a good idea to me. I would change one thing, though. In article <49DMBB2@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de writes: >comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 >"Hardware running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors" How about making that: comp.sys.next.hardware.i486 ^ since, after all, NEXTSTEP runs only on i486 and above (not i386)? Just to save Stephan one post: Because that is the nomenclature which NeXT has chosen. According to it i386 refers to the entire processor family while i486 refers only to the 486 which wouldn't be correct as NS/FIP runs on Pentium machines as well. The same argument could be made that the motorola group should be called m68030 as after all NS will not run on 68000, 68008, 68010, 68012 and 68020 processors but only on the 68030 and above. However, NeXT chose m68k as the name for that processor family and so loyal NeXTites that we are (or most of us at any rate) stick with that as well. Carl Edman
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Date: 28 Feb 1994 08:28:32 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402281018.AA00350@hurka> Hello Timothy, demarest@rerf.or.jp (Timothy Demarest) writes: >I have drive 0 set up as a master IDE drive with DOS >on it. I set up a 345 Mb IDE drive as drive 1 and made >it a slave. I installed NS on the second drive. When I boot >without the floppy it goes into DOS. If I want NS I boot >from the floppy and type hd(1,a)mach_kernel and it starts to boot >NS, except that it tries to fsck on hd0a!!! I had the same problem when I had wanted to boot from my second SCSI disk - removable SyQuest on 'sd1a'. To solve it I must manually change /etc/fstab on SyQuest. Originally the file look like this: -------------------------------------------------- # # DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING # # This file contains information used to mount local hard disks. # Consult your Network and System Administration manual # for information on adding local disks. Information on the format # of entries in this file can also be found in the fstab man page. # /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 [EOF] I changed it to: /dev/sd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 [EOF] to mount sd1a as root filesystem instead of sd0a. I think you should put there something like: /dev/hd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 I hope it helps you. Best regards, Tomas Hurka
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone working on NCR SCSI drivers? Date: 28 Feb 1994 14:34:17 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ksvd9$pu6@inxs.concert.net> References: <2kr7ca$bq7@inxs.concert.net> In article <2kr7ca$bq7@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes: > We have such a driver...(beta form only) and it is being evaluated and a > customer's system here in the southeast...it seems to work pretty flawlessly > on our DEC XL as well. > Just to be clear about this, our DEC XL is the machine at the customer's site in the southeast, the driver is Talus' driver, please contact Mark Meinrath at 74750.1404@CompuServe.COM and was given to us to place on this customer's evaulation system. Dave Briggman -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: source for "pre-made" 13w3 cable? Date: 28 Feb 1994 11:01:37 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9402281552.AA25433@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Does anybody know of a "pre-made" source for the 13w3 cable for the ND to monitor, ideally in the UK, but..? There's a rumour they're SUN compatible -- does anybody know if this is true? Have fun, mmalcolm. --- SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: clarke@acme.ist.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best Fast/FAX Modem? Date: 28 Feb 1994 17:15:07 GMT Organization: University of Central Florida Message-ID: <2kt8qr$qjt@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> What is the best modem for use with a NeXT Cube? I want it to be reasonably fast and also to support FAX. I am still using NS 2.1 is this is a consideration. Thanks. -- Thomas Clarke Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL 3280 Progress Drive, Orlando, FL 32826-0544 (407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ist.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: princeton.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: lxl@cbnewse.cb.att.com (lian.lin) Subject: What Kind of MIDI Interface Should I Get? Organization: AT&T Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 20:29:10 GMT Message-ID: <CLyBKs.JLD@cbnewse.cb.att.com> Keywords: midi Hi, I'm trying to find a MIDI interface that I can use for my NextStation. Can anyone recommend a product for this purpose? I tried to use the two MAC MIDI interface boxes with the NeXT and they both failed to work. The likely cause is that the serial port of NeXT is not a RS232 interface. But I'd like to know which MIDI box in the market I can purchase to get my MIDI connection to work on my NeXT. Thanks in advance for the help. Lian Lin 708-713-1289 .
From: aglisi@heaviside.ucsd.edu (A.Garrett Lisi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT slab won't drive NeXT printer Date: 28 Feb 1994 22:08:52 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ktq1k$lf@network.ucsd.edu> Hello NeXT gurus, I got a new NeXTprinter ( $350 through Pixelated ) and hooked it up to my NeXTstation Color through the printer port. When I attempt to print anything, the printer prints the top 1/20 of the page correctly then the rest of the page blank, then a blank page, then starts another blank page and jams halfway with the message "Some or all of the pages in your print request couldn't be printed." I hooked the printer up to a different NeXTstation at work and the printer worked fine. I did a re-installation of the system software on my machine from a friend's copy of the older NeXTstep 3.0 release and got the same problem. Alas, I fear it is a hardware problem. I would like to avoid sending my box to Bell-Atlantic as it is crucial to my work on a daily basis. Any suggestions would be received with great joy and appreciation. Thank you, Garrett -- .-===_ A.Garrett Lisi aglgrad@sdphu1.ucsd.edu .' / \ ^+^ NeXT mail-> .' |\o \ ^+^ aglisi@heaviside.ucsd.edu -' | h\ Physics Department ___/(_ \^ University of California, San Diego ='____.\ `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~\{~~~~~~
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Finally got evaluation kit working on my PC Date: 28 Feb 1994 16:04:37 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <2ktppl$4up@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> After a lot of struggle, I finally got the NextStep 3.1 evaluation kit running on my PC. I tried several things, so some may not have been relevant. Here's my experience: I started with: 486/50 16MB ISA Adaptec 1542B (v3.1 firmware) Maxtor P0-12S disk drive Diamond Speedstar 24 SVGA (1MB RAM) Sony 17" color monitor Logitec serial trackman I tried several CD ROM drives to assist in the installation. Many would hang. Once I got the rest of the hardware working "correct", there was still a lot of fussing with the CDROM. Other than the CD-ROM, changes I made were: 1. Upgraded 1542B firmware to 3.2. This seems to help as much with operating the CDROM as with my nearly (997MB) SCSI hard drive. While the Nextanswers say you need version 3.2 if you have >1GB hard disk, I think you need it to correctly operate a CD-ROM, but I could be wrong about this. 2. Bought a Logitec deluxe bus mouse. Actually, I like the idea of a bus mouse better anyway, even though it was kind of expensive. My initial problems were that the floppy boot just could not mount the SCSI CD-ROM. I even tried a separate IDE controller with everything but the floppy disabled, and disabled the floppy on my 1542B. However, after all was settled, I was installing using the floppy controller off the 1542B. Seemed to work fine, even though Next disclaims support. After things were sort of booting and working right, I experienced many problems with SCSI hangs. You can tell a SCSI hang on the Adaptec when the disk activity light on the card go on solid. All I can say is, use really good cables, and use a good quality drive. I bought a Texel DM3021 (actally, the SCSI ID reported it as a ShinaCon.... something wierd and obviously not made in USA, although the vendor claimed it was). Could not get it to work worth !#@*&^. (Could have been my cables...) Eventually, I borrowed a friends Texel DM3041, nice -- but even with good quality SCSI external cables, I got many hangs. I eventually finished the installation using a Sony CDROM borrowed off of a Sun workstation. Finally, an interesting note about the Diamond Speedstar. Would not recommend it. Just bought it right before it became politically incorrect to buy Diamond hardware (according to XFree86 folks). It is an ET4000 based card. It comes up generic. Once you change the Video config to generic ET4000, you have to run the VMODE program in DOS to initialize the clocks upon power on. Once you've done that, it comes up in 1024x768 mode, grey-scale. Be careful out there.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 28 Feb 1994 01:34:54 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2ks3ae$71j@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. 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Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. 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If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kenw@tfs.com (Ken Worthy) Subject: quieter fan for the cube Message-ID: <CLyp23.949@tfs.com> Organization: Myself Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 01:20:27 GMT I hate fan noise. Does anyone know of a quieter fan to put in a NeXTCube? It's a standard size, right? Is there a commonly available super-quiet fan which will fit in the cube and provide enough ventilation? Please respond to "kenw@tfs.com". I'll forward the answer to any interested party. Thanks, Ken
From: savitt@unixg.ubc.ca (Savitt Steve) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with Sticky Key Date: 1 Mar 94 04:16:15 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <savitt.762495375@unixg.ubc.ca> Summary: Request for help with malfunctioning Key Keywords: Key, Keyboard, Hardware, NeXT I have a NeSTStation with the old style keyboard. My space bar has lost its click and is sticky. Can I take the key cover off without damaging the keyboard or breaking the key cover? Any suggestions as to how or warnings about what not to do? Thanks for any help! Steve Savitt
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Date: 1 Mar 1994 04:16:57 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2kufjp$4dl@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <141258@hydra.gatech.EDU> <2koekc$fkq@digdug.pencom.com> In article <2koekc$fkq@digdug.pencom.com>, Ricardo Parada <ricardo@pencom.com> wrote: >In article <141258@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (John (kzin) >Rudd) writes: > >> >it a slave. I installed NS on the second drive. When I boot >> >without the floppy it goes into DOS. If I want NS I boot >> >from the floppy and type hd(1,a)mach_kernel and it starts to boot >> >NS, except that it tries to fsck on hd0a!!! > >Did you try making it the root device when you entered that. That is >something like this: > > > hd(1,a)mach_kernel rootdev=hd1a > >I have tried all kinds of boots and it has always worked. But I've never >really tried this one, but give it a try. > >-- Try checking /etc/fstab on hd1a. There's a line probably /dev/hd0a that should be /dev/hd1a. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Where can I get a "NeXT Null-modem cable" ? Message-ID: <CLz23B.Fwq@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: na Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 06:01:59 GMT
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: compression on DAT drive Date: 1 Mar 1994 07:34:50 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services Message-ID: <2kur6q$odq@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I've got an HP dat hooked up to a NeXT (not the same one I posted about a few weeks ago, still can't get that one to work). This drive is a 2G + compression drive, with a theoretical 8G capacity. I know that on a Sun, I would use a different device number to specify that I want to use compression. NeXT does not appear to have such a convention. Until recently it hasn't been an issue whether compression is happening or not; lately my level zero dumps are getting over 2G. I'm also, perhaps coincidentally, beginning to get write errors at seemingly random, but usually pretty far into, i think >2G, my dumps. I'm wondering how I tell whether or not compression is happening, and how to enable or disable it as I want if that's possible. i'm running 3.2 on a cube. danno -- dan pritts consultant/system administrator dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/us unix support group
From: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at (Lukas Filz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Scanner HPIIcx and image apps Date: 1 Mar 1994 09:54:30 GMT Organization: Institute for bio-engineering Sender: michael@rs2.iaee.tuwien.ac.at () Distribution: world Message-ID: <2kv3cm$kaq@email.tuwien.ac.at> I am interested in purchasing a HPIIcx or another good, fast scanner. My main application would be scanning of images and processing them. I am looking for an image manipulation app that supports me in extracting objects within TIFF-files. It should be able to automatically find all pixels that represent the background of an object (e.g. by selecting a color range or by approximating the outline of the object with the mouse or something more intelligent) and set those pixels alpha channel. So the result of this procedure should be a minimum sized TIFF-file with only the objects pixels left opaque, the remaining background pixels set to 100% transparency. Which image app directly supports scanning (e.g. with the HPIIcx) and the process I mentioned above in a very comfortable way? Thank you, Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP/Apple Printers Date: 1 Mar 1994 12:20:35 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <2kvbuj$5f8@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Keywords: Printers, Heterogenous Net My Next printer just went belly-up. Since the black hardware is not going to be serviced properly anymore, I figured my next printer is not going to be a Next Printer but a HP LJ4 or an Apple 800 series. Anyone operating those in a heterogenous net (including white hardware)? I don t want to use uShare, US$ 3000.- stinks plus I simply hate that password crap. Regards Alfred -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
From: burkhard@cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Burkhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra (not Pro)? Date: 1 Mar 1994 10:40:24 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science Message-ID: <2kvnl8INNisg@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu> I've got an ATI Graphics Ultra (not the Pro) in my system at home and was wondering if anyone has tried the GUP drivers with one? I'm honestly not clear on what the differences between the two cards are, other than the obvious fact that the Ultra only goes to 1MB and the Ultra Pro goes to 2MB. Any chance my old card will work at some of the lower resolutions? Note: I don't have NS for home yet - I'm currently looking at what it would take to upgrade my system for it. Thanks for any advice! I'm posting from a friend's account, so if you would rather Email than post a reply, please send it to rhm@oclc.org - Thanks again! -- Robin Hermance-Moore Manager, Telecomm Facilities Development Section OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Mail Stop 468 6565 Frantz Road, Dublin OH 43017-0702 rhm@oclc.org (NeXT MaIL WeLCOME!) 614-764-6215
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compression on DAT drive Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 1 Mar 1994 17:31:03 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2kvu4n$epq@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <2kur6q$odq@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> One thing: Whenever I buy a peripheral, I try to insist on a full programmers interface and hardware manual as part of the deal. Most companies will oblige. The ususal reason they don't do this by default is that many people are intimidated by a large fat book.... Anyway, I have the HP 35480A DAT drive. There is a set of dip switches on the bottom of the unit, On Off 1 2 3 4 5 ... S1 S2 Meaning Off Off Compression disabled, no host control Off On Compression disabled, host is allowed to control compression On Off Compression enabled, no host control On On Compression enalbed, host is allowed to control 3-8 are used to specify drive connetivity. Contat your HP distributor... The default for all switches is ON Hope this helps. Dan Pritts (danno@css.itd.umich.edu) wrote: : I've got an HP dat hooked up to a NeXT (not the same one I posted : about a few weeks ago, still can't get that one to work). : This drive is a 2G + compression drive, with a theoretical 8G : capacity. : I know that on a Sun, I would use a different device number to specify : that I want to use compression. NeXT does not appear to have such : a convention. : Until recently it hasn't been an issue whether compression is happening : or not; lately my level zero dumps are getting over 2G. : I'm also, perhaps coincidentally, beginning to get write errors at : seemingly random, but usually pretty far into, i think >2G, my dumps. : I'm wondering how I tell whether or not compression is happening, and : how to enable or disable it as I want if that's possible. : i'm running 3.2 on a cube. : danno : -- : dan pritts consultant/system administrator : dan.pritts@umich.edu um itd/us unix support group -- => Sherwood Botsford sherwood@space.ualberta.ca <= => University of Alberta Lab Manager, Space Physics Group <= => tel:403 492-3713 fax: 403 492-4256 <=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@tms-gmbh.de Subject: Re: Scanner HPIIcx and image apps Message-ID: <CLzn6J.11G@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2kv3cm$kaq@email.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:37:30 GMT In article <2kv3cm$kaq@email.tuwien.ac.at> Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at (Lukas Filz) writes: > My main application would be scanning of images and processing them. > I am looking for an image manipulation app that supports me in > extracting objects within TIFF-files. It should be able to automatically > find all pixels that represent the background of an object (e.g. by > selecting a color range or by approximating the outline of the object with > the mouse or something more intelligent) and set those pixels alpha > channel. So the result of this procedure should be a minimum sized TIFF-file > with only the objects pixels left opaque, the remaining background pixels > set to 100% transparency. > We (tms) offer an Integrated Publishing System called 1VISION for NEXTSTEP (for Intel and Motorola, asap for PA-RISC and SPARC). Included is a image processing modul called CRANACH which supports scanning and the obove described process. The following scanners are supported at the moment: HP Scanjet IIp/c/cx Agfa Horizon Agfa Arcus Howtek D4000 If you need more information please contact bernd@tms-gmbh.de Hope it helps Hans
From: brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep on Dell 466/ME Date: 1 Mar 1994 20:01:30 GMT Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <2l06uq$ik5@godot.cc.duq.edu> Hello all, I have a NeXTstep intel configuration question. Recently I helped install NeXTstep/FIP on 6 Dell 466/ME machines that were supposedly equipped with at least 1Mb video ram, maybe 2Mb. We couldn't find the spec sheets for the machines, but those involved are looking for them. The installation was fairly painless as were most of my installations but...after the installation was complete I attempted to configure the video driver for the 466/ME which, according to the bios at boot time, supports the S3/805 video chipset. When I select this driver in Configure.app I get to pick from about 10 different resolutions/color schemes/refresh rates. I've tried most of them, and in each case, when the machine is rebooted, the graphics are completely messed up. Usually we have 2 or 4 mouse cursors and it looks as if the windows are being torn in pieces and duplicated all over the screen. I ftp'ed to ftp.next.com to check the literature on the 466/ME and according to the NeXTanswers docs most of the video modes in S3 should be supported with 1Mb of video ram with the new S3 driver. So, ok I think, I'll just grab this driver and everything will be fine but then I go on to read that this driver is part of the 3.2 distribution and it just so happens that I was installing version 3.2 so now I'm stuck again. Does anyone have any ideas as to what modes should work? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. --Jason Brown (NeXT Mail Welcome) brown@next.duq.edu
From: mahoney@csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple Personal Laserwriter II NT connection to NeXTstation Date: 1 Mar 1994 22:02:36 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Message-ID: <2l0e1s$k61@garuda.csulb.edu> For a friend Jim Schenck: He wants to connect an Apple Personal Laserwriter II NT to a NeXTstation slab and wants help. His number is (714) 582-4993. His e-mail is jschenck@fullerton.edu. Please send him help if you know how to do this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Howard Yermish) Subject: WANTED: Hard Drive for NeXT Cube Message-ID: <1994Mar1.212028.15905@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 21:20:28 GMT I am getting a NeXT Cube 030 machine with the optical drive but it does not have a hard drive. (I am getting it at a killer low price because of University surplus - I'm getting the last one!) If anyone could point me in the right direction to getting the hard drive (300 - 600 Mb) and possibly a processor upgrade (040) I would really appreciate it. If you have a hard drive for sale, please e-mail. Thank you very much. BTW, I am a student and I do not have much money left to spend! Howard Yermish hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu hyermish@lulu.esm.rochester.edu Eastman School of Music
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: source for "pre-made" 13w3 cable? Message-ID: <CLyquC.sB@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <9402281552.AA25433@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 01:59:00 GMT In article <9402281552.AA25433@dcs.shef.ac.uk> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) writes: #Does anybody know of a "pre-made" source for the 13w3 cable for the ND #to monitor, ideally in the UK, but..? #There's a rumour they're SUN compatible -- does anybody know if this is #true? A Sun 13W3 cable is the same. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Date: 2 Mar 1994 02:14:29 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2l0sq5$b00@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <141258@hydra.gatech.EDU> <2koekc$fkq@digdug.pencom.com> <2kufjp$4dl@news.acns.nwu.edu> Here's a related question that maybe someone can answer authoratitively: Can you hook up both a SCSI and IDE hard drive to a PC and boot off the SCSI drive? By default, if you add an IDE drive, it is automatically checked before the SCSI. If not, I imagine you could have the IDE drive be the root drive, install just the NS manager and kernel on the drive, and manually run NS from the "boot:" prompt and set the rootdev to the SCSI drive. Why would anyone want to do this? Well, two reasons: 1. I've found that I need more space for DOS than what I have partitioned on my SCSI drive. Windows can go to hell; it's those great PC games that I want. I've found that a well-configured NS/I system makes a GREAT game system! :-) IDE drives are a bit cheaper than SCSI and more than fast enough for my purposes... 2. Speed. My impression from a couple of tests was that access to a SCSI drive could happen concurrently with IDE access, making a system with both types of drives faster. This may not be true, but I wonder about any speedup by mounting an IDE drive as the swapdisk under NS. (Note, I've never used a NS system with an IDE drive, so I don't know about the relative speed vs SCSI.) I'd be very curious if anybody as tried any of the above. Varun
From: Mark G. Tacchi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 IDE Hard Drives (DOS & NS/I 3.2) Date: 2 Mar 1994 03:31:47 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l11b3$hsr@rosie.next.com> References: <2l0sq5$b00@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2l0sq5$b00@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: > Here's a related question that maybe someone can answer authoratitively: > > Can you hook up both a SCSI and IDE hard drive to a PC and boot off the SCSI > drive? By default, if you add an IDE drive, it is automatically checked before > the SCSI. > Check out NeXTanswers document 1487_Booting_From_An_Alternative_Hard_Disk_Drive, it talks about doing this. Also if anyone is interested, I wrote up a complete step-by-step on how to set up a dual IDE system (mostly DOS on primary, all NS on secondary). It should be going into NeXTanswers soon. -- Mark G. Tacchi System Support Engineer NeXT Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: Where can I get a "NeXT Null-modem cable" ? Message-ID: <1994Mar1.221459.28544@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <CLz23B.Fwq@acsu.buffalo.edu> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:14:59 GMT jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes: Take a soldring iron and a User Manual :-) WilleM -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where can I get a "NeXT Null-modem cable" ? Date: 2 Mar 1994 06:33:06 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: na Message-ID: <2l1bv2$366@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Mar1.221459.28544@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Jim Moosmann (moose@nextsrv1.andi.org) has a quantity of these cables. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
From: shamim@ickenham.isu.edu (Shamim P. Mohamed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Exabyte DAT tape: strange behaviour Date: 1 Mar 1994 17:32:24 -0700 Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l0mqo$qhh@ickenham.isu.edu> On a cube running 3.0, I have been having some trouble with an Exabyte 4200 DAT drive. The manpage for st says that Exabyte tapes have to be accessed as /dev/rxt0 so that the driver can do some specific initialisation. Well, that's problem number 1: I don't know how to do that. Just hooking it up makes it visible as /dev/rst0, not rxt0. As /dev/rst0, this is what happens: I can read and write to the tape using dd. But if I open the device and read it from a C program, it fails (with errno==EIO and /usr/adm/messages reporting "st: cmd = 0x1 sr_io_status = 2H" and "Sense key = 0x2 Sense Code = 0x3a"); and now all subsequent dd's also fail! Rebooting the machine fixes it until I run my program again. The NextAdmin manuals are strangely silent on the subject of tape drives, and I don't have a manual for the tape drive. Will making it rxt0 fix this (and if so, how can I do this???) or can I put an ioctl in the C program to handle this? Hep me, hep me, pleeeez! -s -- Shamim Mohamed shamim@howland.isu.edu "Take this cross and garlic; here's a Mezuzah if he's Jewish; a page of the Koran if he's a Muslim; and if he's a Zen Buddhist, you're on your own." Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to lpf@uunet.uu.net
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: fsck help Date: 1 Mar 1994 09:36:40 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2kv2b8$16a@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <940227043404_70313.1574_CHV53-2@CompuServe.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ron Wagner writes > I have a Intel box witha external harddrive I booted my system today and I got this message > > Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S) > looking for block 0 label > probing for DOS > Filesystem name: DOS > Feb 26 08:04:46 Workspace: Mounted DOS disk at /DOS > /usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd0a > Can't read label on /dev/rsd0a. > (null pointer): CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM. > (null pointer): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > [try one more time...] > /usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd0a > /dev/rsd0a: PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=7 > /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. > Feb 26 08:05:07 Workspace[173]: no repair table on completion of repair of sd0 > > My question is what do I do now? My harddrive has approx 150 megs worth of programs and I wouldn't want to lose them My external drive is a If you boot in single user mode (type -s at the boot prompt), you can mount filesystems even if they are dirty. If the damage is not too serious, you'll get a fake-mounted root file system and a prompt. Then copy everything you'd like to rescue on a second disk or any other suitable backup device. You must mount that disk manually, of course. Another thing I would try is to find out what belongs to inode #7. You can find it out with "find / -inum 7 -print", and deleting the correspondig file might be a good idea. Then run "/usr/etc/fsck /dev/rsd0a" and hope for the best. If the fsck succeeds, reboot without sync ("/usr/etc/reboot -n"). Hope it helps, Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Hardware: Toshiba MK-438-FB 900MB SCSI-Disk Date: 2 Mar 1994 16:15:09 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l2e2d$gn6@email.tuwien.ac.at> Hi, has anybody used this disk successfully with black hardware? I can only buy it, but have no opportunity to test it. It's like the cat in the bag. Thank you very much, -- == Andreas == Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: v$imikeb@vnet.austin.ibm.com Subject: Re: NeXTstep on Dell 466/ME Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id) Message-ID: <CM1o3w.3Hns@austin.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:52:41 GMT References: <2l06uq$ik5@godot.cc.duq.edu> Organization: OS/2 Application Developer Technical Support In <2l06uq$ik5@godot.cc.duq.edu>, brown@next.duq.edu (Jason Brown) writes: >Hello all, > I have a NeXTstep intel configuration question. Recently I helped >install NeXTstep/FIP on 6 Dell 466/ME machines that were supposedly equipped >with at least 1Mb video ram, maybe 2Mb. We couldn't find the spec sheets for >the machines, but those involved are looking for them. I got NS/FIP 3.2 installed on my Dell 466/ME without any problems in the graphics area... It indeed has an S3 805 chip, but the machine comes with 512KB of video RAM - you have to upgrade to 1MB to get NS/FIP to work. 1MB is the max, you can't put any more in without getting a new card and disabling the onboard S3 chip. Once you have 1MB, you'll be able to select a bunch of different resolutions, but only some are valid with the 1MB configuration. During boot you should see the S3 driver load and if you've chosen an invalid mode, it will say so and use the best valid mode it can. You'll be able to do 1024x768 with 2 bits (gray scale) and 800x600 with 12 bits of color. You should be able to see how much video RAM you've got in the Setup program in CMOS (Ctrl-Alt-Enter during boot) or as the machine boots, I can't remember now. If it only shows 512KB, buy the extra from Dell and everything should work. Also, make sure you're using a refresh rate that the monitor can handle, i.e. use the slowest and then move up until you've found the best it can do. I'll get the exact video modes I'm using tonight and post them tomorrow. Mike Brown
From: malacite!tad@decster.uta.edu (Tad Kellogg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with Priam 738 Date: 2 Mar 1994 10:30:31 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403021518.AA00603@malacite> Hi, I have an old rather large Priam 738 scsi hard drive. I would like to use it with my NeXT, however it seems my NeXT, a 040 cube, cannot write to it. I can init and use it just fine with my macintosh, and the NeXT will mount it as mac disk, but when I go to format it on the NeXT I get scsi write errors. I have this as a disktab entry: PRIAM 738:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#1225:nt#15:ns#36:ss#512:rm#3600:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:\ :pa#2:sa#163838:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD: Thanks in advance for any help. Tad --- email: tad@halite.uta.edu University of Texas at Arlington
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM 750C (Thinkpad)? Date: 2 Mar 1994 17:42:00 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2l2j58$nms@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Anyone have NeXTSTEP running on an IBM 750C notebook computer? We're considering switching our NEC Versa order to the IBM due to local availability and deadline issues. I've seen others ask about the 750C but I've not seen any confirmation that it works with NS. (We'll be getting the dock and other options necessary to put it all together.) Thanks for any information, - Christopher
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where can I get a "NeXT Null-modem cable" ? Date: 2 Mar 94 23:05:48 Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan. Distribution: na Message-ID: <KAOKI.94Mar2230548@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> References: <CLz23B.Fwq@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1994Mar1.221459.28544@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> In-reply-to: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl's message of Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:14:59 GMT In article <1994Mar1.221459.28544@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes: Take a soldring iron and a User Manual :-) If you don't mind paying a little for your time, you could try PCConnection (NeXTconnection used to sell it, but NC is now part of PCC, I believe.) -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN Not posting from the usual node, due to problems.
From: lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone working on NCR SCSI drivers? Date: 2 Mar 1994 18:57:37 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2l2nj1$2h2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2kr7ca$bq7@inxs.concert.net> <2ksvd9$pu6@inxs.concert.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes: >In article <2kr7ca$bq7@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, >Inc.) writes: >> We have such a driver...(beta form only) and it is being evaluated and a >> customer's system here in the southeast...it seems to work pretty flawlessly >> on our DEC XL as well. >> >Just to be clear about this, our DEC XL is the machine at the customer's site >in the southeast, the driver is Talus' driver, please contact Mark Meinrath at >74750.1404@CompuServe.COM and was given to us to place on this customer's >evaulation system. >Dave Briggman >-- >Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] >A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] >NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com Is there any chance to get such a driver, i.e. is it publically available (free)? Who or What is Talus? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Grupe UID lunde <lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de> Technische Universitaet Berlin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sjm1@crux4.cit.cornell.edu (Seth Morabito) Subject: Looking for an oooolld NeXT... Message-ID: <sjm1.762629633@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> Keywords: NeXT NeXTSTEP Sender: usenet@piccolo.cit.cornell.edu (NNTP Connect) Organization: Cornell University Date: 2 Mar 94 17:33:53 GMT Just out of curiosity, I've been wondering if anyone has any original, extremely old NeXT's sitting around. They need not be extremely useful, only functional and complete, with any version of NeXTSTEP, developer version preferred. Any speed, but the slower and more useless to you the better, since I would be looking to buy one for a Classic Computer club here at Cornell. (Yes, I think we'd call some of the original NeXT's classics.) Basically, we just want a piece of black hardware for nostaligia value, little else. As long as it's functional and doesn't have bad burn-in on the monitor, we don't care how much RAM it's got or what software it comes loaded with. Does anyone have anything sitting around they want to dump on someone else at cheap bargain basement prices? -Seth J. Morabito Cornell University Classic Computer Club sjm1@cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) Subject: Searching for the best notebook for NEXTSTEP. What's yours ? What do ya think ? Message-ID: <CM1wy6.895@cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:03:41 GMT Hi ! I'm searching for the best notebook as possible for NEXTSTEP. If you have already made a choice and used it for some times, would you be kind by sharing your feeling about it ? Thanks very much in advance ! Best regards, - Eric --- "The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be." - Paul Valery _____________________________________________________________________ | Eric de la Tribouille | Advanced Collaborative Systems Lab. eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu | Department of Computer Science | University of Illinois at | Urbana-Champaign | 1304W. Springfield Avenue NeXT-Mail very welcome ! | Urbana, ILL 61801, USA ?;?)/ TOMORROW's TOOLS TODAY ! _____________________________________________________________________ Opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) Subject: Searching for the best NoteBook as possible for NEXTSTEP. Message-ID: <CM1x1q.8H2@cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:05:49 GMT Hi ! I'm searching for the best notebook as possible for using NEXTSTEP. If you've already made a choice and used it for some times, would you please share your feeling about it ? Thanks a lot in advance ! Best regards, - Eric --- "The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be." - Paul Valery _____________________________________________________________________ | Eric de la Tribouille | Advanced Collaborative Systems Lab. eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu | Department of Computer Science | University of Illinois at | Urbana-Champaign | 1304W. Springfield Avenue NeXT-Mail very welcome ! | Urbana, ILL 61801, USA ?;?)/ TOMORROW's TOOLS TODAY ! _____________________________________________________________________ Opinions expressed are my own.
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PKZIP v2.04 for Black or White Date: Wed, 02 Mar 94 10:47:45 -0600 Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2971709110.1.p00378@psilink.com> A few months ago someone posted the availability for PKZIP v2.04 for NS here. It was sent to me but, unknowingly until now, deleted! Could someone email me the release or direct me to someone who can? I really need this product. Thanks in advance. Peace, James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) Subject: BusLogic 445S/ Microp 2217S woes... Message-ID: <CM1rIx.IL5@ceco.ceco.com> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:06:32 GMT Warning: this is a pretty long description. Please bear with me if you have had similar problems when installing- NS not seeing your SCSI drive, only the CD. I was wondering if anyone has gotten a system with the BL445S VL card working. I just got one, and installed it in my system (Gateway 4DX2/66V), and it works fine under DOS, but under NS it for some reason doesn't seem to recognize my hard disk (Micropolis 2217S (fast SCSI-2)). The BL is set to address 230 on the VESA bus (my video card is at 330). I can't install NS onto the SCSI disk- for some reason, it doesn't see it, only the CD-ROM drive. If I boot NS from my IDE drive, I see the disk there, but can't access it. BUT, I CAN run things off of the CD-ROM, so the adapter seems to at least recognize that device. When the system boots, I get the message Host adapter port: 230 checked OK VESA SCSI Host Adapter Firmware Version 3.37 DOS Disk Space >1GB option enabled Checking for SCSI Target 0 LUN 0 Target 0 installed as first hard disk MICROP 2217-15MQ Target-LUN 0-0 is MICROP 2217-15MQ1001901HQ30 Target-LUN 2-0 is SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 2.6a so it does recognize the disk AND the CD-ROM. If I boot off of my IDE drive, it says the Target 0 was installed as second hard disk, but it still sees everything it should. I have a 300MB DOS partition on the disk now that works fine, and the rest (~1400MB) for NS. If I turn the IDE off and try to do the 3.2 install onto the SCSI disk, the following happens: . . . language English, load driver from floppy... [Driver is the new Adaptec 154x Series SCSI Adapter driver, with the Default.table and Instance0.table files on the floppy set to look at address 230 instead of 330, with IRQ at 11] Loaded successfully . . . Resetting SCSI Bus Host Adapter type: 0x41 Adaptec adapter at irq 11 Resetting SCSI Bus Registering:sc0 [Here, it either gets the information of what the CD is or goes into a loop where it Resets SCSI Bus, gets an AHA timeout, Resets, timeout...] Registered: sd0 SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 Registered: sd0 at target 2 LUN 0 at sc0 sd0: block size: 2048bytes sd0: capacity: 192MB sd0: disk label: NEXTSTEP_3.2 . . . root on sd0 . . . It loads until it reaches the question of whether I realize that this is a full install, press 1. Then I get the message: Available disks NS cannot be installed on any disks You must have 512 bytes/sector disk with >120MB free The CD-ROM disk label could not be read Installation can't continue quitting... So the problem seems to be that NS is putting the CD-ROM at sd0 and doesn't see the Microp. drive. The CD is at ID 2 (as the initial boot of the PC shows), and the SCSI disk is at ID 0. So it SHOULD be Microp. = sd0 CD = sd1 Has anyone seen anything like this before? I've tried enabling/disabling everything from big disk support >1GB, synchronous/asynch transfers, max data rate 5 and 10 MB/sec, etc., to no avail. DOS always sees the disks, and NS just finds the CD-ROM. Since both disk and CD show up initially, I don't see how it can be the controller OR the disk. Yet NS sees the disk (at least the fact that there IS a disk and how big it is) if I boot off of IDE and run DiskBuilder or Upgrade.app (off of CD!). But even then, something doesn't seem to be working right with it. Hopefully this is just something stupid on my part, but I've looked at everything I could think of and am just using the DOS part for now. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thanks! (Thanks for reading down to here!!) Mike Stepniczka mikes@ceco.ceco.com
From: sikes@nic.cerf.net (Terry Sikes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep evaluation w/current hardware Date: 2 Mar 1994 21:14:59 GMT Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l2vkk$rhl@news.cerf.net> I'm considering evaluating NeXTstep, and have read over the FAQs. My current system consists of: Amptron (clone) 486/66 VL motherboard, 256K cache 20 MB RAM Orchid Farenheit VL w/1 MB video RAM Ultrastor 34f VLB SCSI-2 controller 1 GB SCSI-2 disk Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM Soundblaster 16 ASP Viewsonic 17 monitor (not the G, and highly recommended). As I see it the main showstopper right now is the Ultrastor 34f controller. I've been very happy with this controller (under NT), are there any current or planned drivers? Also, how well will the Farenheit work? I didn't see it explicitly listed, but S3 805 is a supported chip. Can anyone report their experiences? Ultimately, I'd like to go to 16 or 32 bit color at 1280x1024. Can anyone recommend a card that will support these well under NS? What is the situation with PCI support? What support for PCI SCSI controllers is available or planned? What is the level of current support for Soundblaster 16 (ASP), as well as the Waveblaster daughtercard? Does it included sampling as well as playback? It seems to me that if NS/i is going to succeed in any great measure, many more drivers are needed than are currently available... Comments? Sorry if some of these are covered adequately in the FAQs...I missed it if that was the case. Thanks for any responses, please post here. -- Terry Sikes | All I want is a baseline 1/1/1 machine: Primary address: sikes@fatcity.com | 1000 MIPS, 1000 MB RAM, and 1000 GB HD. Also tlsikes@bix.com, tsikes@aol.com | All my opinions reflect my views only!| Is that too much to ask?
From: leland@dtd.com (Leland Woodbury) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Know about G.E.C.? (make NS-compatible systems, Mesa, AZ) Date: 2 Mar 1994 20:51:15 GMT Organization: Downtown Digital Sender: leland@dtd.com (Leland Woodbury) Message-ID: <2l2u83$qet@vw-4.dtd.com> Originator: leland@pr-2.dtd.com There's a company called G.E.C. (Mesa, Arizona) that has a regular full-page ad in NeXTWorld Magazine for their NeXTStep compatible 486 system. They *sound* good, but does anybody have any experience with G.E.C. and/or with their machine? Thanks. -- Leland Woodbury AT&T Downtown Digital, New York City leland@dtd.com
From: chris@amiga.tn.cornell.edu (Christopher A. Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3-928 graphics board driver questions/comments Date: 3 Mar 1994 00:04:28 GMT Organization: none Sender: caw5@cornell.edu (Verified) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l39icINNt4u@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm planning on buying NextStep for Intel within the next two weeks. I am looking for recommendations for a good VLB graphics card. My main requirements are: 1) It must have _stable_ drivers available now for both NextStep and OS/2. 2) It must support 16 bit color at 1024x768 or preferably higher resolutions. 3) It must be relatively fast. Because of my requirements I have been looking at S3-928 boards with 2 or 4 megs of VRAM. I have heard that NextStep for Intel (v3.2) comes with some generic S3-928 drivers. Will these drivers work with any S3-928 board? only those with a particular type of RAMDAC? is there a list of boards they are known to work with anyplace? Some of the boards I have looked at include: #9 GXE Level 12 - According to the 3.2 hardware compatibility list #9 has their own NextStep driver's for this board. Unfortunately OS/2 2.11 has some problems with this card. 2MB VRAM also limits the card somewhat. STB Pegasus - A nice 4 meg card with OS/2 drivers available. The 3.2 compatibility list says drivers are coming 1Q94 - have they arrived yet? or will this card work with the S3 drivers that ship with NS 3.2 Actix - Make a couple of inexpensive S3 cards with 2 or perhaps 4 mb VRAM. OS/2 drivers. Don't know if these will work with NS 3.2 either. miro - Specs. on these 4mb boards sound very nice. Custom NS 3.2 drivers seem to be available and OS/2 drivers too. 4 meg version is a bit pricey ($899?). Anyone have any first-hand experience with either the 4M or 2M cards? Are they worth the money? Is there a cheaper source for them than buying direct from miro's US number? Metheus - Seem to make 2m and 4 meg S3928 boards. I don't know the status of NS drives. I have been less than thrilled with their customer service and would prefer to avoid dealing with this company though. Any other recommendations for a good gfx card that I am overlooking? I have briefly considered the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro also but I have heard comments indicating that it is not as fast as the S3-928. I apologize if this is a FAQ (it probably is 8). FAQ which was supposed to be available in c.s.n.announce has apparently expired at my site. Thanks. - Chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher A. Wolf mail: chris@alchemy.geo.cornell.edu IRC: cwolf (#amiga) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: What is the best video card for NS under $500? Message-ID: <1994Mar2.215628.15463@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:56:28 GMT I would like to get one with good color and good speed for a DX2/66 machine with VLB. Would like to hear your opinions. thanks, greg
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Going blank on restart Date: 2 Mar 1994 16:37:40 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403022236.AA02816@cantina.lanl.gov> Greetings: I posed the following oddity last week to CSN.misc but got not one response. Perhaps someone in this group knows what's going on here? Thanks, Dick Silbar ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 07:58:12 -0700 Subject: Going blank on restart Quite recently something changed on this NS/I 3.2 machine: on logging out and clicking on the restart button/confirming restart in the alert panel, things just go blank. To get the reboot process to continue, I have to bring up the small restart panel (with <rightalt-numlock>) and type in an 'r'. I don't know quite when or why this started happening, but it now seems to be consistent behavior. Does anyone know why? Background: Epson NX running 3.2, with the new Adaptec 154x Drivers installed. Thank you, NeXT -- that DOES cure my (6,3,0) exceptions at bootup. [For me these always occurred after registering the PSMouse but then not being able to find the Adaptec card.] The going-blank problem started, however, before I put in the new drivers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kevin@bigtree.com (Kevin D. Baranski-Walker) Subject: Re: Looking for an oooolld NeXT... Message-ID: <CM24p8.6LG@unix.portal.com> Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company References: <sjm1.762629633@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:51:05 GMT In article <sjm1.762629633@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> sjm1@crux4.cit.cornell.edu (Seth Morabito) writes: > >... > (Yes, I think we'd call some of the original > NeXT's classics.) Let's see ... an auto is a considered a classic after ~25 years ... that's 5 in computer years ... >... > Basically, we just want a piece of black hardware > for nostaligia value, little else. In the original form; OD no swap disk, NS V0.9-1.0, that's about all it would be used for :-) > ... > -Seth J. Morabito > Cornell University Classic Computer Club > sjm1@cornell.edu
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: white hardware won't tip right Date: 3 Mar 1994 03:07:40 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <2l3k9s$jgs@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I have routinely "tip"ed my app from black to black hardware. I just installed on white hardware and have transfered (with tip) small files balck to white. When i try to transfer my tarred, compressed and uuencoded app (at 2.6MB) the transfer loses 40 bytes. Needles to say, that is a complete failure. In summary black to black tip of large files works black to white fails. any help out there?? I also tried white to white, but even though i had a tip cub9600 connection, the transfer rate was 2400 baud, to slow to test the large file transfer. any help out there? advTHANKSance jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone working on NCR SCSI drivers? Date: 3 Mar 1994 05:12:47 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l3rkf$o9f@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Mar3.034723.5637@joker.fdn.org> The NCR driver is not yet available and we are working with Talus to arrange for rights to the driver... Will update later. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) Subject: Archive 150 use on a NeXT Message-ID: <1994Mar3.022100.30979@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Thu, 3 Mar 94 02:21:00 GMT Hello, I am trying to use an Archive Viper 150 tape drive to backup some files. We pulled the tape drive from an SGI machine. We haven't changed any of the jumpers and we are using it as an external scsi tape drive. We don't have documentation for the drive so we don't know if the jumpers need to be changed. When we try to write to it, we are getting an I/O error. The NeXT seems to be talking to it becasue the drives beeps and buzzes a bit. Any hints or tips would be much appreciated. The NeXT is running 2.X if that matters. Thankyou, Chris Conley Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org> Subject: Re: Is anyone working on NCR SCSI drivers? Message-ID: <1994Mar3.034723.5637@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <2l2nj1$2h2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 03:47:23 GMT In article <2l2nj1$2h2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) writes: > info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes: > > >In article <2kr7ca$bq7@inxs.concert.net> info@absystems.com (Paradigm Shift, > >Inc.) writes: > > >> We have such a driver...(beta form only) and it is being evaluated and a > >> customer's system here in the southeast...it seems to work pretty flawlessly > >> on our DEC XL as well. > >> > >Just to be clear about this, our DEC XL is the machine at the customer's site > >in the southeast, the driver is Talus' driver, please contact Mark Meinrath at > >74750.1404@CompuServe.COM and was given to us to place on this customer's > >evaulation system. > > >Dave Briggman > > >-- > >Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] > >A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] > >NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@absystems.com > > Is there any chance to get such a driver, i.e. is it publically available > (free)? Who or What is Talus? > info@talus.com or better : driver@talus.com (maybe drivers@talus.com) If not : steve@talus.msk.su Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org GC/O d-(++) p(+) c++ l(!) u+(++) e+(*) m+(---) s+/+ n+ h- f++ g- w+ t+ r y+(*) "In the long run, we are all dead". JM Keynes
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black color slab: What is 9th SIMM slot for? Date: 3 Mar 1994 05:02:19 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l3r0r$2nj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I just took my 25 MHz colorstation apart and found a ninth SIMM slot, somewhat separated from the main eight SIMM slots. What is this 9th slot for? What types of SIMMs can it accept? By the way, I was highly disappointed to discover that my mono and color slabs don't take SIMMs with the same number of pins. Do all colorstations have 70 pin SIMMs and all monostations have 30 pin SIMMs, or does it depend on the manufacturing date? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: Bo.Eriksson@Teknikum.UU.SE (Bo Eriksson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: BusLogic 445S/ Microp 2217S woes... Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 07:19:11 GMT Organization: Circuits & Systems Group, U of Uppsala, Sweden Message-ID: <Bo.Eriksson.216.2D758F6F@Teknikum.UU.SE> References: <CM1rIx.IL5@ceco.ceco.com> Summary: Yes, I have very similar problems In article <CM1rIx.IL5@ceco.ceco.com> mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) writes: [...] >Warning: this is a pretty long description. Please bear with me if you have >had similar problems when installing- NS not seeing your SCSI drive, only the CD. >I was wondering if anyone has gotten a system with the BL445S VL card working. >I just got one, and installed it in my system (Gateway 4DX2/66V), and it works fine >under DOS, but under NS it for some reason doesn't seem to recognize my hard disk >(Micropolis 2217S (fast SCSI-2)). [...] I have had almost identical problems; I have a DX/2 66, AMI BIOS, 16 MB, BusLogic 445S, Micropolis 2210. I normally run OS2, and there are no problems from there. When I try to install NS 32, either with the new or old adaptec drivers, I get the same error message about 'You need at least one 512 byte sector disk with 120 Mb Free'. The only difference is that when probing the SCSI-bus something is registerad as sg0, sg1,sg2 and sg3 at sc0. Since I have my disk split into five partitions (plus boot manager) it's unlikely that this is my Micropolis, but then what else can it be ? I have tried switching to SCSI-1 with no luck; right now I am waiting for firmware v 3.31 and BIOS 4.50 (older versions) for the BusLogic card, which is supposed to fix things. My swedish reseller of NS said my hardware dealer should be able to get these chips from BusLogic for free; I still haven't seen any of that. [...] >Mike Stepniczka >mikes@ceco.ceco.com /BoE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: c_avery@rsgreet.andi.org (Christopher Avery) Subject: NeXT printer make flapping noise Message-ID: <CM2FFu.2Ep@nextsrv1.andi.org> Keywords: Printer Problem Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet) Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 01:43:05 GMT My NeXT printer attacted to a next station suddenly makes a flapping noise as though a piece of paper was stuck inside it some where. As far as I know, all paper that went it has come out. The sounds starts as the paper is coming out the back and seems to be coming from the back left of the printer. I have check the paper path but see nothing. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Christopher Avery reply to:cavery@andi.org (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) Subject: Re: S3-928 graphics board driver questions/comments Message-ID: <schwettCM3388.Bvn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2l39icINNt4u@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:16:56 GMT >I have briefly considered the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro also but I have heard comments indicating that it is not as fast as the S3-928. I'm sure this will spark a huge controversy, but I think I'd have t disagree with you on that one... I'm pretty pleased with the performance of a 2mb ATi ultro pro under NeXTStep. Admittedly, the full windows drags are a bit choppy, but as far as "real world" performance issues are concerned, it's quite snappy. Most benchmarks I have seen indicate that S3-928 boards are NOT faster than ATi boards. For about $300 street, I think a 2mb ATi is a good buy. Also, I've used the ATi OS/2 drivers extensively and they work great; the speed is wonderful (of course no opaque window drags in OS/2) and the drivers are rock solid and support seamless windows. Of course, I haven't seen any other boards running NeXTStep, but subjectively the ATi is fast enough, and I really like 1180x832 16 bit color! Hope this helps... Mark Schwettmann
From: rice@dingo.imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/i Generic PC Robustness? Motherboard Problems? Date: 3 Mar 1994 11:03:38 GMT Organization: IMAG, Grenoble, France Sender: rice@dingo (Jonathan Rice) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l4g6a$jjc@imag.imag.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Although there is much discussion of specific machine configurations and devices in this group, I have yet to see some overall advice posted as to the robustness of NS/i in running on a generic '486 DX PC. Okay, it seems fairly clear that for devices such as SCSI and video cards, it's best to adhere rigorously to those products for which you are certain that a driver exists. But what about the motherboard itself? Might there be problems here? I suppose what I really want to find out here is if I buy a generic '486DX-based PC, put in an approved SCSI adaptor, video card and more memory, how likely is it that NS/i will run? Another question which I'll just tag on here too, since I got no response from the Net a few weeks ago, is: Can NS/i handle two screens (a la Mac - contiguous desktop) if I plug in a second video card? -- Jonathan o------------------------------o--------------------------o | Jonathan Rice | Laboratoire ARTEMIS-IMAG | o------------------------------o B.P. 53 | | Email: Jonathan.Rice@imag.fr | 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9 | | Phone: (33) 76 63 58 80 | FRANCE | | Fax: (33) 76 63 84 23 | | o------------------------------o--------------------------o
From: lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is anyone working on NCR SCSI drivers? Date: 3 Mar 1994 18:56:16 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2l5bsh$pgt@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2l2nj1$2h2@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <1994Mar3.034723.5637@joker.fdn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org> writes: >> Is there any chance to get such a driver, i.e. is it publically >available >> (free)? Who or What is Talus? >> >info@talus.com or better : driver@talus.com (maybe drivers@talus.com) >If not : steve@talus.msk.su >Ed. >-- >Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org >GC/O d-(++) p(+) c++ l(!) u+(++) e+(*) m+(---) s+/+ n+ h- f++ g- w+ t+ r y+(*) >"In the long run, we are all dead". JM Keynes Does anyone else but me already have this driver, or what? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Grupe UID lunde <lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de> Technische Universitaet Berlin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Re: white hardware won't tip right Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Thu, 03 Mar 1994 13:12:05 GMT Message-ID: <1994Mar03.131205.21602@cyantic.com> References: <2l3k9s$jgs@gap.cco.caltech.edu> In article <2l3k9s$jgs@gap.cco.caltech.edu> jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) writes: >I have routinely "tip"ed my app from black >to black hardware. I just installed on white >hardware and have transfered (with tip) small >files balck to white. When i try to transfer my >tarred, compressed and uuencoded app (at 2.6MB) >the transfer loses 40 bytes. Needles to say, >that is a complete failure. In summary >black to black tip of large files works >black to white fails. >any help out there?? > >I also tried white to white, but even though >i had a tip cub9600 connection, the >transfer rate was 2400 baud, to slow >to test the large file transfer. >any help out there? TIP is not a reliable transfer mechanism. If all you have is a serial line, try setting up kermit or x/y/zmodem on the two machines. That should do it. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep evaluation w/current hardware Date: 3 Mar 1994 09:46:39 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <2l50ov$gp1@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> References: <2l2vkk$rhl@news.cerf.net> In article <2l2vkk$rhl@news.cerf.net>, Terry Sikes <sikes@nic.cerf.net> wrote: >I'm considering evaluating NeXTstep, and have read over the FAQs. My current >system consists of: > [stuff deleted] >What is the level of current support for Soundblaster 16 (ASP), as well as >the Waveblaster daughtercard? Does it included sampling as well as >playback? I don't know about the other stuff, but I just pulled the README file for a soundblaster driver off of cs.orst.edu. I've just started using NEXTSTEP on my PC, and I'm amazed at the amount of free/low cost software there is out there. In particular, cs.orst.edu:pub/next is chalked full of neat stuff. Here's part of that README text: I think any freaks out there could have fun with 8bit NeXTStep sound. The SoundBlaster8 driver can be found on the ftp-site: cs.orst.edu : /pub/next/submissions/SoundBlaster8_V1.04.tar.gz it soon will move to cs.orst.edu : /pub/next/binaries/drivers/SoundBlaster8_V1.04.tar.gz Here are some technical data: * Supports classic 8 bit ISA SoundBlaster * Configurable for IRQ's 3, 5, and 7 * Only DMA channel 1 * Only Port 0x220 * Only NS FIP 3.2 !* Has a driver inspector to register & to set the debug flag !* Included the driver inspector sources for free use by other developers * Plays 4-23kHz * Records 4-12kHz * Supports only NX_SoundStreamDataEncoding_Linear8 sound encoding, so you will have to convert Linear16 or Mulaw8 files to Linear8 format, using the system built in snd* untilities. * It's a demo-version which only plays or records 30 songs after every reboot. It then stops sound output and input. You will have to register the driver to remove that limitation. Take a look at the REGISTRATION text.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Re: NS/i Generic PC Robustness? Motherboard Problems? Message-ID: <1994Mar3.141227.4165@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com References: <2l4g6a$jjc@imag.imag.fr> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 14:12:27 GMT In article <2l4g6a$jjc@imag.imag.fr> rice@dingo.imag.fr (Jonathan Rice) writes: > Although there is much discussion of specific machine configurations and > devices in this group, I have yet to see some overall advice posted as to the > robustness of NS/i in running on a generic '486 DX PC. Okay, it seems fairly > clear that for devices such as SCSI and video cards, it's best to adhere > rigorously to those products for which you are certain that a driver exists. > But what about the motherboard itself? Might there be problems here? > > I suppose what I really want to find out here is if I buy a generic >'486DX-based PC, put in an approved SCSI adaptor, video card and more memory, > how likely is it that NS/i will run? > In my experience, I have tried 4 different motherboard vendors (magitronic, AIR, micronics, other I can't remember) and only the magitronic was unable to run NS. That was on 3.1. I haven't tried it with 3.2 yet. The others have booted flawlessly. -- jerald dawson*Systems Manager / Head Programmer*Investor's Advantage NeXTmail-jerald@mrk.com |"To compel a man to furnish contributions of phone - (708) 487-3221|money for the propogation of opinions which he fax - (708) 526-3635|disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark) Subject: Re: black color slab: What is 9th SIMM slot for? Message-ID: <CM3w39.1oA@is.com> Keywords: dsp, memory, next Sender: pclark@is.com (Peter Clark) Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. References: <2l3r0r$2nj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:40:20 GMT In article <2l3r0r$2nj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: > I just took my 25 MHz colorstation apart and found a ninth SIMM slot, > somewhat separated from the main eight SIMM slots. What is this 9th slot > for? What types of SIMMs can it accept? > It's for expanding the DSP memory. NeXT used to sell a 32K-word (96Kbyte) expansion board. I think the current release of the music kit (4.0) supports it if you have it. I do have one, as it happens, but haven't tried to use the new musickit yet. I don't know how you'd get one now that next stopped making hardware. If you're not doing DSP or music synthesis, it probably wouldn't do you much good. Best, Pete Clark -- ********************************************************************* Pete Clark - Software Engineer | You know that way that Integrity Solutions, Inc. | you always are? pclark@is.com NeXTMail preferred | Don't be that way.
From: burkhard@cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Burkhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI GUP/ISA? Date: 3 Mar 1994 10:39:05 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science Message-ID: <2l50apINN1pf@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu> Well, I'm back with another ATI question! I've got a couple-year-old system (Gateway 2000 486/33) which, unfortunately, only has an ISA bus. It came with the ATI Graphics Ultra card (1MB) - so I would be stuck with VGA graphics for NS.... The ATI NextAnswer states that the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro "is available in both EISA and VESA localbus versions" - but my perusal of Computer Shopper magazine reveals there is also an ISA version. My questions: * Would the GUP driver work with this card? * Would it support the same resolutions as the EISA/VESA versions of the GUP? If so, it would be the only ISA card (based on the HW Compatibility List) that goes over 800x600 in color.... * I realize performance is going to be, shall we say, S-L-O-W on an ISA system - but can anybody quantify for me just how bad a performance hit it'll be? Much as I'd love to totally replace my system, I'm operating under a tight computer budget - hence the "upgrade it one piece at a time approach". The promised (but not yet delivered, as far as I know) ATI upgrade program also makes the ISA GUP option seem like a possible winner. Thanks for any help! Note - I'm posting from a friend's account: *** Please reply either by posting or by Email to rhm@oclc.org *** Robin Hermance-Moore (PS: Thanks again to the folks who answered my previous post concerning using the GUP drivers with my older "non-Pro" card: Mark Schwettmann, who provided some insight into the differences between the Ultra and the Ultra Pro cards, and Scott Bender, who provided the definitive answer of "I tried it and it didn't work".)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu Subject: FAQ-type list of NSI-compat hw Message-ID: <1994Mar3.214313.19389@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 21:43:13 GMT I am very surprised and disappointed that, by now, there is not yet a comp.sys.next-published list of Intel hw on which NSI installs & runs either flawlessly or almost flawlessly. Several months ago, when I was beginning to look for some such hw to purchase around 11/93, there was some talk of compiling such a list and someone, whose identity I don't recall, said something about taking on the responsibility for compiling and maintaining this list, based on info he supposedly would get from other comp.sys.next readers & posters, and post the results. I've been away from the next newsgroups for a few months but now back for the past three days or so and I've seen no such list and no indication that such a list exists --not even in the "Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet". Well, I hereby propose that we --i.e., those of us who have something mentionworthy to contribute to such a list-- get off our duffs and begin the compilation. In keeping with the spirit of this suggestion, I will offer my own submission to this hopeful (to me, anyway) list. Once this gets off the ground --assuming that it does-- someone (maybe me?, and/or others?) can concern themselves with the overall format of the list. For now, here's my contribution: HARDWARE BRAND Dell MODEL 466/L HD IDE 324MB (Cyls:1008,Heads:12,Sects:55) FD single unit, 1.44 & 1.2, combined RAM 16MB VID SVGA MOUSE PS/2 NET CARD SMC Elite-16 Combo (ethernet) INSTALLATION Temporarily installed an Adaptec SCSI card and connected a NeXT-brand CD-ROM, using a generic SCSI/Centronics cable. SOFTWARE NSI and packaged apps, WordPerfect-NS, Concurrence, Diagram, GatorFTP, Gopher, Mesa, PencilMeIn, SpeeDex. ENVIRONMENT There are 7 or so of these machines, on a TCP/IP thinnet-cabled Internet-connected (direct, of course) network. I believe that their NetInfo server is a black box running 3.2. They get NFS and NIS services from a Sun machine (don't remember what model), running SunOS-4.1.3. WHERE Dean's Office of the Biological Sciences Division of The Univ of Chicago. (My uncertainty of a couple of the details, in the "environment" section above, is due to that I don't work there --I'm the sysadmin in one of the depts of this division.) PROBLEMS None. (I know that "none" sound unrealistically-overly-simple but that's what they said. I've asked two persons who have installation and support relationships to these units and they've each said that everything has gone smoothly.) ====================================================================== John R Avery, Micro Support Analyst ** Life is nothing if not complex. Univ of Chicago, Pathology Admin ** Know thyself. (312) 702-1112 --voice & vmail ** Everything in moderation sherlock@holmes.bsd.uchicago.edu ** (even your moderation;-).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS486 installed on Gateway Message-ID: <1994Mar3.155629.8736@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> From: mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu (Joseph G. McWilliams) Date: 3 Mar 94 15:56:28 CST Is this the place for questions concerning installation of NeXTStep486 on a Gateway 486-66? If not could some kind soul guide me to the proper news group? Thanks. -- Joseph McWilliams NeXT-mail: mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu Department of Mathematics e-mail: f_mcwilljg@ccsvax.sfasu.edu Stephen F. Austin State University Fax: (49)568-1226 Nacogdoches, TX 75962
From: strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: compatible monitors for mono-NextCube system Date: 3 Mar 94 21:51:50 GMT Organization: University of Washington Distribution: na Message-ID: <strobel.762731510@dirac> Summary: Any non-NeXT monitors compatible with NeXTCube (monochrome)? Keywords: monitor NeXTcube Two questions: Are there any non-NeXT monitors that can be hooked into a monochrome NeXTCube system as a *replacement* for the NeXTCube's monitor? My monitor is getting blurry and the repair person says that it cannot be improved any further. I need a megapixel monitor that would display the NeXTStep interface. Can any of the NeXT color monitors be used on a monochrome Cube system? Thanks for your help, Nick strobel@astro.washington.edu
From: sandhoff@csus.edu (John F. Sandhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help: Color monitor power supply Date: 3 Mar 1994 23:01:25 GMT Organization: California State University Sacramento Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l5q85$3ef@news.csus.edu> Keywords: repair, power supply, color monitor Originator: sandhoff@syscube.ccs.csus.edu We had our Color slab on a UPS. That's actually the bad news, I guess :-). When we took a power hit the UPS kicked in and appears to have blown the power supply in the monitor. Resistors R320 and R305 charred and cracked; we suspect this is a symptom rather than the actual problem, though. Does anyone have a) the values of these two resistors (R320 was a wirewound power resistor; R305 was a half watt. They're wired in series); or b) the schematics for this supply? We haven't called Bell-Atlantic yet - I don't think I want to know what this is going to cost :-(. The monitor is an old, original 17" Color Megapixel, model N4001. Can I use some other color monitor on the original Color slab (nonTurbo)? Any help or advice appreciated (other than offers of taking the leftover slab off my hands :-) ). John F. Sandhoff, University Network Support California State University Sacramento sandhoff@csus.edu
From: ejw@pacersoft.com (Erik James Walter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical Disk Problems Message-ID: <2025@pacvax.UUCP> Date: 3 Mar 94 21:20:26 GMT Sender: news@pacvax.UUCP Organization: Pacer Software, Inc. Having recently inherited one of the Original NeXT cubes, I am faced with a dilema of ignorance. The optical drive on this cube (the only removable media), has gone belly up. Since it is not some standard I don't know how to replace it. Is there a source for used drives? If I managed to find a SCSI one, would it recognize it? Sadly the SCSI drive has also died, I can replace this, but I cannot reinstall the software without access to the Optical disks that it is on. Any help is much appreciated. Please E-Mail me directly.... Thanx +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | | "Baldric, you wouldn't recognize a | Erik James Walter | | subtle plan if it painted itself purple | Mac Engineer | | and danced naked on a harpsicord singing | Pacer Software | | 'subtle plans are here again'." | | | - Edmund Blackadder | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what toner cartridges can go inside next printer? Date: 4 Mar 1994 00:28:01 GMT Organization: Sematech Research, Texas A&M University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2l5vah$6pn@news.tamu.edu> My next printer is running out of toner. What brand of cartridge can I put in there? I ask because I recall someone saying long time ago that the cartridge from next was the most expensive. Is there a cheaper one that will work? Thank you! -- -- Andrew Duchowski | Nothing unreal exists. -- -- | -- -- Texas A&M University | -- Kiri-Kin-Tha's first law -- -- andrewd@cs.tamu.edu (NeXTmail ok) | of metaphysics --
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Date: 4 Mar 1994 03:14:55 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Thanks to all those who responded to my previous post, entitled "black color slab: What is 9th SIMM slot for?" OK. Now I know that the 9th SIMM slot is for a Digital Signal Processor chip. Now the question is: What exactly does this chip do? Will it lessen the delays in my screen graphics rendering? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sengwil@mail.auburn.edu (William F. Seng) Subject: OD needs serious help Message-ID: <CM4FDs.8xu@mail.auburn.edu> Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator) Organization: Auburn University Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 03:37:04 GMT One of our optical drives is acting finnicky. If is is recognized at boot up, everything works fine. Reads and writes proceed flawlessly. Everything is great, birds are singing and the sound of little animals scampering through the forest fills my heart with joy. Of course, if it is not recongized...well, you get the picture. I usually get a cpu panic> about halfway through boot-up. Normally, the recongition process of an OD seems to look like this: qb2 mach: odc0 at 0x2112000 qb2 mach: od0 at odc0 slave 0 qb2 mach: drive ROM v8, servo ROM v8 qb2 mach: od1 at odc0 slave 1 Now, with the problem I have, we sometimes miss the third of the above messages: i.e. it looks like this: qb2 mach: odc0 at 0x2112000 qb2 mach: od0 at odc0 slave 0 qb2 mach: od1 at odc0 slave 1 And, as I said, in the middle of a boot we will get the message : panic> cpu: empty q (That message is from memory, and so may not be exact...) Any clue what this means, and what I can do about it? - Bill
From: andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem: Mac 180c as External HD to NeXT Date: 3 Mar 1994 23:51:16 -0800 Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Message-ID: <2l6p9k$h31@nic.cerf.net> (My second attempt in posting this...) Has anyone successfully hooked up a Mac PB180c to a NeXT as an external hard drive (using the HD-30 cable)? I can read from the PB180c, but I can't write to it: (from /usr/adm/messages) Mar 3 23:43:51 idealicus mach: sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x200, resid = 0x200, retry 1 ... Mar 3 23:43:51 idealicus mach: sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x200, resid = 0x200, retry 9 Mar 3 23:43:51 idealicus mach: sd2: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL Mar 3 23:43:51 idealicus mach: macfs: ERROR: mac unix_rw: write FAILED 5 Mar 3 23:43:51 idealicus mach: macfs: ERROR: mac unix_read_write: FAILED on second i/o Mar 3 23:43:51 idealicus mach: macfs: ERROR: mac_remove: FAILED: mousestick-ii-driver-323.hqx, type: 1, 15004 Any idea what's wrong?
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Digital Audio-To and Fro? Message-ID: <Mar.4.03.20.08.1994.26893@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 4 Mar 94 08:20:08 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, I just got the new version of play3401. It works great on my NeXTdimension Turbo ADB system. The record feature is great. Now I just have to get some automated way of dumping all the tracks from the CD into individual files and have their formats changed and compressed... Anyway, two quick questions... 1) Has anyone gotton play3401 to work on an Intel setup? It doesn't work on mine with the same CDROM I use on the ND. I get an error that looks like this: ...scsi generic ...scsi generic cant find any Toshiba 3401 drives, it only works with toshiba 3401s... The above is obviosly from my head and not a from a terminal window :) 2) Does anyone know how I can go about converting/transferring a .snd file onto a DAT. I mean put it onto a DAT audio tape so I can use it with my home audio DAT player? Again thanks for the app, and for any help! Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Seagate ST31200N SCSI- 1 gig problems? Message-ID: <CM4uE5.J42@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:01:17 GMT I recently attached a Seagate SCSI hard drive to my "NeXT PC". The PC has 2 IDE drives and booting from one using a VL controller. The Seagate is attached to an Adaptec 1542CF, with the bios disabled. So... (1) Start up NEXTSTEP and it asks if I want to initialize the drive. When I answer yes, I geta NS drive which is 876megs (down from 1.05 gig), and it appears to work fine. But... (2) If I use EZSCSI's afdisk to partition the drive into 2 DOS partitions (30megs and 300megs respectively), then the 30 meg partition is not recognied by NS (the 300meg is) and I can't format the remaining part as a NS usable drive. Basically, I'd like to partition the drive into 2 DOS partitions and one NeXT one. This doesn't appear to be possible...Help! -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shergot5@mach1.wlu.ca (scott hergott u) Subject: SerialMouse.config Message-ID: <CM4svn.ALp@mach1.wlu.ca> Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 08:28:33 GMT After the destruction of nearly all driver files, I have managed to reconfigure most everthing, with the exception of the mouse. The reason for this is due to the fact that it was deleted (Whole SerialMouse.config directory.) Since I do not have a CD rom currently connected to my computer, could someone be ever so kind and tar & compress the SerialMouse.config directory/driver and email it to me. Thanks, Scott Hergott Email : shergot5@mach1.wlu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: PKZIP v2.04 for Black or White Message-ID: <1994Mar4.105248.6827@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <2971709110.1.p00378@psilink.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:52:48 GMT "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> writes: >A few months ago someone posted the availability for PKZIP v2.04 for NS >here. It was sent to me but, unknowingly until now, deleted! Could >someone email me the release or direct me to someone who can? I really >need this product. Thanks in advance. >Peace, >James Another way to go is to use Opener. It is compatible with PKZIP/PKUNZIP v2.04 and it works very user friendly. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: V1.4 of Mux driver (source) Message-ID: <CM4Kro.36M@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Summary: 57600 Baud operation Keywords: Serial Ports Driver Organization: VE6MGS Gateway Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 05:33:23 GMT These following fixes and performance improvements have been added to the driver. @(#)Mux.m 1.4 (Salyzyn) 94/02/08 - DCD should *only* be checked for /dev/ttyd?? entry points as pointed out by James Cassidy <jcassidy@quark.uwaterloo.ca> - DCD should not be detected when dropped by the `LOCAL' ports as pointed out by James E Quick <jq@localhost.phcs.com> - at 38400 and 57600, it appears that we need a little extra head start to handle receive Interrupts. Set default FIFO_TRIGGER to 4. I now lose 1 character every million at 57600 Baud (from a 14400 Baud modem though, so this is intellectually dishonost!). I could not notice any change in CPU overhead, but would appreciate knowing what people noticed on slower machines. - Removed the use of XCLUDE for bidirectional locking. The use of this flag caused a great deal of trouble with TipTop, as pointed out by Amir <amir@avalon.unizh.ch>, and with screens (I can find bugs too eh?) and other programs. Pity ... - Added Transmit buffering to improve Taylor `i' protocol UUCP performance with it's capability of setting larger buffer sizes. Have managed upward of 3600ch/s at 57600 using UUCP `i' protocol to a 14400 modem on a compressible file! - With Buffer Size not set in these original Instance?.tables V1.3 would `crash and burn'. The problem was when the variables were not set, the valid hiwater mark was placed into the lowater placeholder, and hiwater still remained invalid. Fixed ... - Beefed up the documentation slightly to address some of the missing answers. If I had more (spare) time, I'd write better documentation in the first place ... 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kristman@unb.ca Subject: NeXT on an IBM PS/2 model 85 ???? Message-ID: <1994Mar4.131327.7449@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> Sender: news@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca Organization: UNB(FCS) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:13:27 GMT We want to install NeXT on an IBM PS/2 model 85. The 85 is a MCA machine with a 1G SCSI hard drive, external SCSI CD-ROM and 16M of RAM. Can this be done ? Does NeXT run on MCA machines ? The hardware guide does not seem to mention MCA. Thanks Dan
From: hofmann@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Harald Hofmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro (2meg) driver Date: 4 Mar 1994 17:08:41 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2l7pup$e2j@email.tuwien.ac.at> References: <CLGwMA.HBn@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <CLGwMA.HBn@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > There was recently a note from NeXT that a new driver from NeXT was available > for the VL GUP. It's entry 1122. But while they say the driver is available, > I can't seem to see it on ftp.next.com. As it is I can "only" get 16 bit > colour in 10248x768 at 60Hz. No other options are available ( this is the > driver from the 3.2 CD). Does anyone know how and where to get it? Thank's. > I have got a GUP VL 2Meg myself and have installed NSfIP 3.2 from a CD-ROM. During installation I could select between several refresh rates at 1024x768 (if I remember correctly 72 and 76 Hz were in the choice). Did You recompile Your GUP driver? A friend of mine did so and had only a subset of the original resolutions and refresh rates after that. If You recompile Your driver, You must enable some modes in the source of Your driver. -- Harry --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Hofmann, hofmann@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTmail welcome!) Vienna University of Technology, AUSTRIA, EUROPE, PLANET EARTH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns) Subject: Reading Mac floppy on PLI drive (NeXTCube, 3.2) Message-ID: <BURNS.94Mar3213801@gauss.bellcore.com> Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com Organization: Bellcore Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 02:38:01 GMT Well, I haven't had access to a Mac for over a year, but now I need to read some Mac disks. I am using a NeXTCube (040) running 3.2 with a PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 drive. I used to be able to do this in 92, so when I got MEDIA ERRORs, I replaced /usr/etc/disk and /usr/filesystems/mac.fs with the 3.0 version. Still no dice. Any help out there? jim burns -- James E. Burns burns@nova.bellcore.com Bellcore, NVC-3X114 Off: (908) 758-2819 331 Newman Springs Road Fax: (908) 758-4371 Red Bank, NJ 07701-5699, USA Home: (908) 219-6561
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: HELP: Printer fails to eject page Message-ID: <CM5HEn.1x2@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:18:22 GMT Three of our NeXT black & white printers have this problem: They start printing fine, but when the printed page comes through the back rollers of the printer, it only advances into the out hopper up to 90% of its length and the page stays hanging from the last 10% of its length being hold by the rollers (? guess) . As consequence when the next page prints it finds the other one hanging around and trigers the "printer is jammed" message. We would greatly appreciate if anybody can help us with suggestion to remedy this problem. Anxiously waiting for any replies, and Thanking everybody in advance, --john ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.dsp,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Final Call - Ariel IRCAM Signal Processing Workstation & QuintProcessor Date: 4 Mar 1994 18:20:55 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l7u67$7ea@agate.berkeley.edu> [Reprinted from: "An Ariel View" newsletter, Vol.5 issue 1, Winter'94 without permission.] Final Call - ISPW & QuintProcessor The NeXT is dead and so are NeXT plug-in cards. This is unfortunate because Ariel offers two NeXT plug-in cards - the ISPW and the QuintProcessor. Not surprisingly, it has become impossible to find NeXT-specific ASICs necessary to build NeXT plug-in boards. The ISPW, or IRCAM Signal Processing Workstation, is a dual-i860 RISC coprocessor card for the NeXT Cube developed at IRCAM, a French research institute and world leader in the field of computer music. The ISPW is used everyday by musicians at IRCAM for complex sound synthesis and audio processing. IRCAM has developed powerful software to support the ISPW. In particular, "Max", created by Miller Puckette, provides a powerful (and elegantly simple) block-diagram based algorithm development tool. The second plug-in board, cleverly named the QuintProcessor because of its five Motorola DSP56001's, has been embraced by the computer music department at Stanford (CCRMA). David Jaffe at CCRMA has ported the NeXT "sound kit" utility to take advantage of all five DSPs. Great hardware, great software. Great products. It's a pity that they're dead. Since we can't get parts, we've no choice but to do a final build. We'll take orders and ship on a first come, first- serve basis. Ariel Corp. 433 River Road Highland Park, NJ 08904 (908) 249-2900 Fax: (908) 249-2123 BBS: (908) 249-2124 email: ariel@ariel.com -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro (2meg) driver Message-ID: <CM5o78.EGw@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CLGwMA.HBn@utstat.toronto.edu> <2l7pup$e2j@email.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 19:45:07 GMT In article <2l7pup$e2j@email.tuwien.ac.at> hofmann@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Harald Hofmann) writes: [RE: ATI GUP driver...] > >I have got a GUP VL 2Meg myself and have installed NSfIP 3.2 from a >CD-ROM. During installation I could select between several refresh rates >at 1024x768 (if I remember correctly 72 and 76 Hz were in the choice). >Did You recompile Your GUP driver? A friend of mine did so and had only a >subset of the original resolutions and refresh rates after that. >If You recompile Your driver, You must enable some modes in the source of >Your driver. Nope I used the driver from the CD. NeXT just released a new driver for the VL ATI GUP, and I now have all the modes (including an 11xx by 832, which is quite nice) and these are available at higher (70 and up) refresh rates. Still seems a bit slow though, and I've got 28megs in the system. >Harald Hofmann, hofmann@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTmail welcome!) >Vienna University of Technology, AUSTRIA, EUROPE, PLANET EARTH -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Play3401 for CD300's? Date: 4 Mar 1994 22:01:09 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2l8b35$ape@steffi.demon.co.uk> Has anybody taken Carl's Play3401 code and made the necessary modifications for it to work with Apple CD 300's? -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC Versa Color Display Driver? Date: 4 Mar 1994 22:06:10 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2l8bci$qe3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I'm in the process of setting up NeXTSTEP on a color NEC Versa (E) portable (on hold waiting on some more memory at this point) and I saw a couple of messages go by earlier implying that there's a color display driver for this system. Can anyone give me a pointer to it (or a pointer to a pointer to it :-)? Thanks, - Christopher
From: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted: Schematics Date: 4 Mar 1994 23:18:05 GMT Organization: University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l8fjd$sbm@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> I am looking for schematic diagrams for the NeXT 68040 (25MHz) slab and the mono MegaPixel display. I have not been able to locate these yet. Bell Atlantic was resistant to parting with such information, saying it is still considered 'proprietary' (on a discontinued machine, yeah, right :) Is there someone out there who would consider passing along a copy in the interests of science? Reply by e-mail. Thanks, Steve +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Stephen B. McCullagh || E-mail: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca | | Faculty of Engineering Science || : steve@charon.engga.uwo.ca | | University of Western Ontario || Phone : (519) 679-2111 ext. 8112 | | London, Ontario CANADA || Office: Room 1019 ESB | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Autolaunching CDPlayer.app with a CD300? Date: 4 Mar 1994 23:11:19 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2l8f6n$bfj@steffi.demon.co.uk> People remarked earlier that a CD300 ran fine under NeXTSTEP. I've got a device (harddrive) on target id 1 and no id 0 but I still can get CDPlayer to autolaunch when I insert an audio CD... The CD is target 3. ideas? -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Date: 4 Mar 1994 21:14:25 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: > OK. Now I know that the 9th SIMM slot is for a Digital Signal Processor > chip. Now the question is: What exactly does this chip do? Will it > lessen the delays in my screen graphics rendering? > Absolutely nothing! :-))) It's sitting there nice and quietly not getting in anybody's way. Amongst the programs which use it are such applications as MusicKit programs, some sound thingies, a DSPTTY program and the Mandlebrot.app from the 3.0 release. What a pity eh? Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC Versa Color Display Driver? Date: 5 Mar 1994 01:05:51 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l8ltg$5pq@inxs.concert.net> References: <2l8bci$qe3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <2l8bci$qe3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU writes: > I'm in the process of setting up NeXTSTEP on a color NEC Versa (E) portable (on > hold waiting on some more memory at this point) and I saw a couple of messages > go by earlier implying that there's a color display driver for this system. > > Can anyone give me a pointer to it (or a pointer to a pointer to it :-)? > Try Mark@talus.com, they have the driver I believe Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@paradigm-shift.com
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Date: 5 Mar 1994 01:07:20 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2l8m08$5qd@inxs.concert.net> References: <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> In article <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: > In article <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd > Takken) writes: > > OK. Now I know that the 9th SIMM slot is for a Digital Signal Processor > > chip. Now the question is: What exactly does this chip do? Will it > > lessen the delays in my screen graphics rendering? > > > Absolutely nothing! :-))) It's sitting there nice and quietly not getting in > anybody's way. Amongst the programs which use it are such applications as > MusicKit programs, some sound thingies, a DSPTTY program and the Mandlebrot.app > from the 3.0 release. > What a pity eh? > Actually, I believe Virtuoso and a couple of other graphics apps took advantage of it but since most PCs don't have the DSP in them, support from most apps have been removed. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@paradigm-shift.com
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: EATA timeout report #1 (summary) Date: 4 Mar 1994 13:08:06 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2l7brm$1qo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: DPT 2022, SCSI timout, crashes EATA timeout report =================== Description of the problem: The DPT EISA controllers 2022/9x and 2012/9x cause disastrous crahes under NeXTSTEP Intel 3.x. These crashes are initiated by an "EATA timeout" error message in /usr/adm/messages, and a few seconds later any disk access on the SCSI bus is blocked. If this happens when file system relevant information is written to disk, the resulting damage to the filesystem is often so big that a complete restore from tape is the only way left. A typical /usr/adm/messages entry looks like: Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: EATA timeout Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: Resetting SCSI Bus... Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: sd1: I/O Timeout; Retrying. Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Read block:1458928 blockCount:16 Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: EATA timeout Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: Resetting SCSI Bus... Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: sd0: I/O Timeout; Retrying. Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:303648 blockCount:6 Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: sd1: I/O Timeout; Retrying. Feb 14 04:06:57 kato mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Read block:1898816 blockCount:16 Feb 14 04:07:27 kato mach: EATA timeout Feb 14 04:07:27 kato mach: Resetting SCSI Bus... Feb 14 04:07:27 kato mach: sd1: I/O Timeout; Retrying. Feb 14 04:07:27 kato mach: target:2 lun:0 op:Write block:1458928 blockCount:1 6 Equivalent crashes were reported by: Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> martin@cube.han.de (Martin Ortlepp) Rainer Staringer <rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at> John B. Hampshire II <hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani) Varun Mitroo <mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Milo Velimirovic <milov@fingers.acs.uwlax.edu> Markus Wenzel <mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Additional notes: The crash frequency varies from twice a day up to once a month. It is reported that the crashes occur with SmartROM rev 2B and 2C / BIOS rev 5B and 5C. The only characteristic which is common to all listed systems might be that in all of them Fast-SCSI-II harddisks are installed, e.g. DEC DSP3107, DEC DSP 3053, HP C2247, IBM 0662S12 Weird effects I noticed on my system: - No timeouts occur any longer if I replace the 2022 with a ISA 2021 adapter. - The same 2022 in a friend's system with an old and rather slow Fujitsu drive does not cause any trouble there. Effects noticed on more than one system: - Decreasing the transfer rate from 10 MB/s to 5 MB/s makes the timeouts less frequent, but they still occur. Performance goes down with it seriously, so this cannot be considered as a "solution". My ECU configuration is exactly as described in NeXTanswers #1457 and I have no cache installed on my DPT. (I cannot speak for the settings of the other systems.) Bad cabling and termination cannot be the reason for all eight systems listed above. Personal experiments with termination (switching disk order in the chain, leaving other devices out) did not cure the problem. System configurations in detail: my own: EISA/VL 486DX2 66, SiS Chipset, AMI BIOS, 32 MB DPT 2022/95, BIOS Rev. 2C (purchased in January 94) Toshiba CD-ROM 3201, Sankyo CP 525 QIC, DEC DSP 3053L, IBM 0662S12 (with active termination on). MTBC: about 2 days. Milo Velimirovic <milov@fingers.acs.uwlax.edu> Dell 4066/XE (i486 66MHz 24Mb) S3 805 w1MB Video RAM NeXTSTEP 3.2 DPT 2012/90, BIOS Rev. 5B, purchased summer 1993 HP 4mm DAT SCSI ID 6. DEC DSP3105 1GB disk on / SCSI ID 0. 3 HP C2247 1GB disks mounted for users' files, SCSI ID's 1,2, and 4. Dell 4066/XE (i486 66MHz 32Mb) S3 805 w1MB Video RAM NeXTSTEP 3.1 DPT 2012/90, BIOS Rev. 5B, purchased late summer 1993 3 HP C2247 1GB disks mounted for users' files, SCSI ID's 0,2 and 4. Dell 4066/XE (i486 66MHz 32Mb) S3 805 w1MB Video RAM NeXTSTEP 3.2 DPT 2012/90, BIOS Rev. 5B, purchased late summer 1993 2 HP C2247 1GB disks mounted for users' files, SCSI ID's 0 and 1. Typically, the first machine will run for several days, sometimes as long as two and a half weeks and then crash. The second machine hasn't had a crash for many weeks but stuff like this shows up in its /usr/adm/messages file: [...] ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani) EISA/VL 486DX2 66, SiS Chipset, AMI BIOS, 32 MB DPT 2022/95, BIOS Rev. 2B Archive Viper 525MB Tape Drive Seagate 1GB Drive. Varun Mitroo <mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I get crashes very rarely, about once a month. My hardware: AMI Enterprise III 486DX2 66, 48 MB RAM DPT 2022/95, ROM upgraded to 2C Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM Pinnacle 650 MB Magneto=optical drive NeXT color printer Maxtor 1240 HDD The optical drive and printer are external, and the printer is terminated. Everything usually works very well, and I sometimes get occasional time outs which usually recover. It's annoying, but not that frequent, about once a week. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: OED (was:Re: CD ROM) Message-ID: <CM46sI.Jzo@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <2kngcg$pfl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 00:31:29 GMT In article <2kngcg$pfl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: > In article <CEDMAN.94Feb25181716@capitalist.princeton.edu>, > Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: > >In article <2kl257$c1@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Tim Bissell writes: > > In comp.sys.next.misc article <1994Feb25.040425.1072@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> > > you wrote: > > > Are there any advanced or more complete dictionaries? > > > > The *definitive* English Dictionary is available on CD-ROM, the 2nd. > > Edition Oxford English Dictionary. Available from the Oxford University > > Press for around 500 pounds, it has (unfortunately) only a MS-DOS > > (WinDoze?) interface, but should be accessible from SoftPC. > > > >Of course there is also a UN*X version which allows network clients > >which compile just fine under NS. So some of us are lucky enough just > >to be able to say 'ox2 foobar' and get the complete Oxford 2 > >definition at any time without using up a CD ROM drive or more than a > >few tens of kBytes for the client. > > > > Carl Edman > > > Can we have more info on this? As in where to get > the Un*x sw, what it is, how install, etc. (i.e.) > all one needs to do what is described above). > > Thanks > > > Robert de Lucca > Johns Hopkins University > > Here Here ! I too would like to know what's available. The OED is wonderful, but it would be even more wonderful if I had it on-line. --- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu moksha!mgb@bliss.stetson.edu NeXT mail welcome ! -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: burns@nova.bellcore.com (James E. Burns) Subject: Re: Reading Mac floppy on PLI drive (NeXTCube, 3.2) In-Reply-To: burns@bellcore.com's message of Fri, 4 Mar 1994 02:38:01 GMT Message-ID: <BURNS.94Mar4212111@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com> Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com Organization: Bell Communication Research References: <BURNS.94Mar3213801@gauss.bellcore.com> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 02:21:11 GMT OK, maybe the problem was that I was using an 800K disk. The 1.44 (HD) seems to work fine. I don't recall that limitation, but it has been over a year. jim burns -- James E. Burns burns@nova.bellcore.com Bellcore, NVC-3X114 Off: (908) 758-2819 331 Newman Springs Road Fax: (908) 758-4371 Red Bank, NJ 07701-5699, USA Home: (908) 219-6561
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: NS/FIP drivers for the Matrox MGA II -- impossible Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar4134702@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:47:02 GMT After a few weeks of calling probably every single employee of Matrox to find out about the possibility of writing a NS driver for their high-end graphics card, I finally found someone who was both knowledgeable and helpful. Unfortunately it turns out the Matrox hardware does not allow a linear mapping of the entire VRAM into the processor address space. As a consequence it is impossible to write (at least a DriverKit style) driver for it which is rather unfortunate as their cards seem to be the most powerful widely available video cards for PCs. I was told that NeXT itself inquired about this possibility and came to the same conclusion. Matrox is working on a new series of cards which will be linearly mappable but it is unlikely that they will be available to end users before another year has passed. What does that leave ? The Diamond Viper is said to be nearly as fast as the Matrox cards but the company is paranoid about releasing the necessary information to allow software developers to write the drivers. Miro has drivers available but performance is probably sub-optimal as they are just VL-bus cards which were hastily adapted to the PCI bus. Both ATI and S^3 64-bit cards have been announced but aren't available yet. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Reading Mac floppy on PLI drive (NeXTCube, 3.2) Message-ID: <CM6LA6.CFF@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <BURNS.94Mar3213801@gauss.bellcore.com> <BURNS.94Mar4212111@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 07:39:42 GMT In article <BURNS.94Mar4212111@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com> burns@nova.bellcore.com (James E. Burns) writes: > >OK, maybe the problem was that I was using an 800K disk. The 1.44 (HD) >seems to work fine. I don't recall that limitation, but it has been >over a year. There was always that limitation on the 2.88 PLI floppy. You simply could not read/write Mac disk. There was a smaller capacity drive (not from PLI, but I'm not sure at this point) which did read them. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading Mac floppy on PLI drive (NeXTCube, 3.2) Date: 5 Mar 1994 09:11:33 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <2l9ic5$gin@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <BURNS.94Mar3213801@gauss.bellcore.com> <BURNS.94Mar4212111@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com> <CM6LA6.CFF@utstat.toronto.edu> Apple's "answer" for people wanting to use up their inventory of DD floppies is the "720K Disk Formatter" extension. Admittedly, it doesn't help folks with existing 800K diskettes. -=EPS=- -- Reminder to Intel bigots: there are comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* newsgroups just for you and your narrow little minds! Stop trying to "fix what ain't broke"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: Re: NeXT on an IBM PS/2 model 85 ???? Message-ID: <1994Mar5.055019.7682@bMD.com> Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) References: <1994Mar4.131327.7449@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 05:50:19 GMT In article <1994Mar4.131327.7449@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> kristman@unb.ca writes: > We want to install NeXT on an IBM PS/2 model 85. The 85 is a > MCA machine with a 1G SCSI hard drive, external SCSI CD-ROM and 16M of RAM. Can this be done ? Does NeXT run on MCA machines ? The hardware guide does not seem to mention MCA. > > > Thanks > Dan Don't think thats gonna work... MCA is not supported... -- Man, that needle was really starting to piss me off! Kevin Solie -- Man, that needle was really starting to piss me off!
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Digital Audio-To and Fro? Date: 5 Mar 1994 06:48:39 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403051250.AA13371@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > 2) Does anyone know how I can go about > converting/transferring a .snd file onto a DAT. I mean > put it onto a DAT audio tape so I can use it with my home > audio DAT player? > I suspect that the only solutions for this are from Ariel: DATPort and DAT-Link. The DATPort connects to the DSP port, so will only be useful on NeXTs (and various other systems, e.g. SUN, not running NEXTSTEP). The DAT-Link connects to any SCSI drive, so will be the most generally useful. You can also connect a number (up to 7 -- limit for SCSI chain) of these together for up to 14 channel i/o Contact ariel@ariel.com I'd be pleased to hear of others. Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) Subject: Re: Play3401 for CD300's? Message-ID: <1994Mar5.102738.787@sydney.bo.open.de> Sender: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) Organization: NeXT Cube, Bochum, Germany References: <2l8b35$ape@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 10:27:38 GMT In article <2l8b35$ape@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: Hi, > Has anybody taken Carl's Play3401 code and made the necessary modifications > for it to work with Apple CD 300's? Do anybody know if this is possible? The Toshiba can send Audiodata to the SCSI port. The Sony also? --- Ciao mmo email: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (NeXTmail welcome) -- "Oh, I've heard of worse," said Ford, "I read of one planet off in the seventh dimension that god used as a ball in a game of intergalactic bar billiards. God potted straight into a black hole. Killed ten billion people."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: largest 3.5" drive under 12 watts Message-ID: <1994Mar5.133047.17719@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 13:30:47 GMT I've got a NeXT Station whose hard drive I want to upgrade. It currently has a 3.5" half height (full 3.5" style) 400meg segate. The tech doc on the segate says it consumes 12 watts. So, I'm looking for a larger drive , in the range of 1GB, that consumes similar power. I am hoping that some of the newer 1" drives would consume similar power. Any pointers would be appreciated. -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanner Problem note Date: 5 Mar 1994 14:31 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <5MAR199414310766@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi, folks. Had a problem with my scanner (Scan-X Pro from HSD). It would start, stop then hang the system hard. Problem turned out to be a dying bulb. (!!!) So, if your scanner acts similarly, try changing your bulb BEFORE sending it off for repair (Umax gave me that advice and saved me time and $$$). Don
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeout report #1 (summary) Date: 5 Mar 1994 22:28:42 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2lb12q$g9n@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2l7brm$1qo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Add me to this report, too: I run the EISA 2012B (old version). I have switched to 5MB/sec, even though I have some fast SCSI devices. Interestingly enough, on my GX/Pro, EATA timeouts are mostly a problem at bootup. If these problems occur, they do soon after or while it starts at NS bootup. However, if it hasn't started within 1-3 hours after a NS boot, it usually does not happen again---at least for many days at a time. /ivo welch In article <2l7brm$1qo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: > EATA timeout report > ===================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Has anyone tried to connect a NEC laserprinter[1097] to a next sl[[C?[D? Message-ID: <CM7uF8.AB2@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 23:54:44 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs From: yong@iitmax.iit.edu (Yong Yoo) Subject: Help:: Adaptec 1542B with new bios. Message-ID: <1994Mar6.001322.15651@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 00:13:22 GMT I've just upgrade the new bios on my Adaptec 1542B controller card so it can recognize drive bigger than 1 gig. I think it was extended translation schemes or something like that. Anyway, After installing the new bios, I've installed MSDOS on first to see if the drive was ok. After that I took out the dos partition and ran the NeXTStep 3.2 installation. It was fine until after loading the controller drivers, (parts where system loads whole bunch of drivers like, adaptec 1542B drivers DPT drivers and ide drivers) I pressed 2 to continue without adding new drivers(I assumed even with new bios, old drivers will be compatiable) that is when I get a weird messages and keep printing ": thread: waitForInterrupt: returns -735" on the screens. I've had NeXTStep 3.2 for a while on same scsi drive( Seagate ST41650N, 1.35 gig formated) just that I could only used upto 1 gig. I though it might be the new bios and wanted to see if what happen if I disable the extended translation schemes. Interesting enough I had no problem installing the NeXTStep. So I do know that the bios is fine just that when I enable the extended translation schemes, it crash and keep printing out same error messges on the screen. So I am assuming I have to get a new drivers before I can installing NeXTStep. But only new drivers I can find for Adaptec is one I can upgrade AFTER I've installed the NeXTStep on the drive already. Are there other people who had same problem and/or knows how to fix it? I would be very appreciated if you to send me an email or post to the news net. My email address is "yong@iitmax.acc.iit.edu" thanks in advance. Yong Yoo
From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: largest 3.5" drive under 12 watts Message-ID: <105575@cup.portal.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 17:12:24 PST Organization: The Portal System (TM) References: <1994Mar5.133047.17719@FreemanSoft.com> In article <1994Mar5.133047.17719@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes: | I've got a NeXT Station whose hard drive I want to upgrade. It currently | has a 3.5" half height (full 3.5" style) 400meg segate. The tech doc on | the segate says it consumes 12 watts. So, I'm looking for a larger drive | , in the range of 1GB, that consumes similar power. I am hoping that | some of the newer 1" drives would consume similar power. Any pointers | would be appreciated. Seagate ST31200N. 1.+ GB, 3.5" (1" high), about 8W power, 9mS access, SCSI-2 (works on SCSI-1 systems). Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com, thad@netcom.com ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Re: NeXTstep evaluation w/current hardware Message-ID: <1994Mar5.231829.26569@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <2l2vkk$rhl@news.cerf.net> <2l50ov$gp1@sugar.neosoft.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 23:18:29 GMT >I don't know about the other stuff, but I just pulled the README file for >a soundblaster driver off of cs.orst.edu. I've just started using NEXTSTE >on my PC, and I'm amazed at the amount of free/low cost software there >is out there. In particular, cs.orst.edu:pub/next is chalked full of >neat stuff. My move to NS was allowed partially by my faith in the stock of free/lowcost wares that are FTPable. I plan to buy WriteUp -- period. All else seems to be able to be met by the software alrady in my NSi developer package and on sites like cs.orst.edu. bp =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness = =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- bp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) Subject: Help! Frequent crashes of NSFIP 3.2 Message-ID: <CM5BG7.But@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Keywords: Crash nsfip Epson Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 15:09:41 GMT I reallly need some help with diagnosing my problems with freqeuent crashes of NSFIP 3.2 on my Epson Progression NX. I seem to be the only one experiencing this problem at our site although we have only one other identical system here among our dozens of black systems. Our system administrator has been unable to help me because he has most experience on black hardware. Unfortuneately, there seems to be no pattern that I can discern regarding when these crashes occur. It usually is when I am using the system, but occasionally will occur even when I am away. Sometimes I can halt so that my reboot time is much faster, but usually I have no choice but to reboot with the maddening wait for the check disk. Sometimes it will crash again within minutes and sometimes it will be hours or days between crashes. It is getting really frustrating. These crashes seem only to have been occurring since I upgraded to 3.2, but maybe don't extend that far back. They certainly did not occur this much before the last 2 months. The messages that I get are very cryptic (to me). They always include: Waiting for remote debugger connection (type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) Sometimes these are preceeded by one or more of the following messages: unexpected kernel trap 2 eip 344ab35 or Failed instruction exception (2,2,0) or Breakpoint exception (6,3,0) Has anyone else experienced these problems or does anyone have any idea what might be the problem or does anyone have any suggestions on how to correct the problem? Is it a hardware problem, a software problem, a networking problem, or something else? I would really appreciate any help that anyone can provide. Thanks, Brad -- W.B. Kincaid, Ph.D. Life Science Department Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Ave. Mesa, AZ 85202 voice: 602/461-7103 fax: 602/461-7803 kincaid@next.mc.maricopa.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: Audio Message-ID: <1994Mar6.073414.22005@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 07:34:14 GMT What audio functions will a PAS-16 perform w/ the audio software in NSi? That is -- what will NSi let you do with sound exactly? bp -- =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi From: wil@shell.portal.com (Ville V Walveranta) Subject: Re: largest 3.5" drive under 12 watts Message-ID: <CM8KHv.DE@unix.portal.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Sender: news@unix.portal.com Organization: Portal Communications Company References: <1994Mar5.133047.17719@FreemanSoft.com> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 09:17:52 GMT Joe Freeman (joe@FreemanSoft.com) wrote: : I've got a NeXT Station whose hard drive I want to upgrade. It currently : has a 3.5" half height (full 3.5" style) 400meg segate. The tech doc on : the segate says it consumes 12 watts. So, I'm looking for a larger drive : , in the range of 1GB, that consumes similar power. I am hoping that : some of the newer 1" drives would consume similar power. Any pointers : would be appreciated. Micropolis's new AV-series drives consume very little power. For instance, the 1.75GB drive takes about 7W. They're also very fast. // Wil -- *** Ville V. Walveranta Primary email...: wil@shell.portal.com ********* *** 96 Linda Ave., Apt. #5 Secondary email: wil@muncca.fi ******* *** Oakland, CA 94611-4838 Tel./Facsimile: +1 (510) 420-0729 ***** *** USA <faxes automatically recognized> ***
From: stan@cs.sfsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Feedback on experiences with Pars NSi systems Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 6 Mar 1994 09:21:34 GMT Organization: SFSU Computer Science Dept. Sender: stan@cs.sfsu.edu Message-ID: <2lc7au$5h8@news.csus.edu> Keywords: NSI Pars hardware performance reliability I'm considering purchasing a Mono laptop from Pars. Today I went to their store in Hayward, CA, with a copy of NXBench.app and was allowed to check out three of their hardware configurations. I was impressed with the price/performance of their 486 boxes and with their claim for reliability. (warranty: 1 year on parts, 3 years on labor) NXBench results for the three machines I was able to try: Pars Model Dhrys MIPS NXFactor Min Conf. Price Barracuda DX2 68027 43.2 0.999 3295.00 Standard DX2 56497 35.9 0.671 2995.00 Classic DX2 34364 21.8 0.432 1995.00 Minimum Configurations for each model: Barracuda DX2 DX66 8 bit Color 1280x1024 17" monitor 16/340Mb Standard DX2 DX66 8 bit Color 1024x768 17" monitor 16/340Mb Classic DX2 X66 2 bit B/W 1024x768 15" monitor 16/340Mb Their demo laptop was out for an evaluation so I could not gather NXBench data for it. I will post those results when they have a laptop available for hands on evaluation. Would people please post (or email me) their NXBench results for other vendors so I can compare results. The list of systems provided in the RANKING file with NXBench is limited and was prepared a year ago. Would anyone who has experience with Pars equipment please post (or email me) information I should be aware of. -- Stan Osborne, Computer Science Department, SFSU Internet: stan@cs.sfsu.edu Voice: (415) 338-2168
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: CDDA on an Apple CD300 under NS3.2? Date: 6 Mar 1994 18:46:52 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2ld8es$dv@steffi.demon.co.uk> Has anybody got CDDA going with a CD300 under NS3.2? The cd driver is complaining with the following when I try to perform the read. sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) DISK UNFORMATTED Disk is Write Protected sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0xd8 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: inek400@indyvax.iupui.edu (Nadim El-Khoury) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fusion DOUBLE CD 16 Message-ID: <1994Mar6.134237.4113@ivax> Date: 6 Mar 94 13:42:37 -0500 I have a Fusion DoubleCD 16 with a 16 bit sound card it is Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound Adapater. When Ever I try to install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on MY computer it comes back with the message that I have no SCSI adapter or CD ROM connected. Is there any dirvers for this card, if so where one can find it. Also, how one puts it on the netx Installation diskette. I would appreciate all the help on this. Thank You Nadim El-KHoury Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis INEK400@indycms.iupui.edu
From: sikes@nic.cerf.net (Terry Sikes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <2ldcce$5fb@news.cerf.net> Control: cancel <2ldcce$5fb@news.cerf.net> Date: 6 Mar 1994 20:02:55 GMT Organization: CERFnet Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ldctf$61k@news.cerf.net> <2ldcce$5fb@news.cerf.net> was cancelled from within trn. -- Terry Sikes | All I want is a baseline 1/1/1 machine: Primary address: sikes@fatcity.com | 1000 MIPS, 1000 MB RAM, and 1000 GB HD. Also tlsikes@bix.com, tsikes@aol.com | All my opinions reflect my views only!| Is that too much to ask?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: 2 IDE's, 1 SCSI- HOW??? Message-ID: <CM9FKL.E8F@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:29:08 GMT I have NS/I installed on the first IDE of a PC. This drive is partitioned into a 10meg DOS unit and a 330meg NS partition. The other IDE hard drive is DOS (340meg's). I recently added a 1gig SCSI drive and I've had nothing but hassles. The SCSI drive is currently formatted as a NS only drive, as I can't partition it and that's ok anyway. But, I am unable to create any user accounts on the drive! If I do then they lose their ownership and group identities. Is there a trick here? I'd like to have all users with their accounts on the SCSI drive but have the NS system on the first IDE drive where I can decide into which OS I wish to boot. This is a 4th request. Perhaps this is a simple matter, but it sure doesn't seem that way to me! I have read the installing NS to a SCSI when there is an IDE drive document (1487_Booting_From_An ...) in Nextanswers. Incidentally, if I move myself to the hard drive then it becomes damaged, and I then have to repair it. Please reply via e-mail, if possible. The SCSI drive is a Seagate31200N if that's an issue. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Toshiba MK-438-FB 900MB SCSI-Disk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <1994Mar5.100516.6221@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Agnus' Home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany References: <2l2e2d$gn6@email.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:05:16 GMT Andreas Haleger (ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at) schrieb: > has anybody used this disk successfully with black hardware? I > can only buy it, but have no opportunity to test it. It's like > the cat in the bag. Ich habe die gleiche Platte in etwas grv_er (1,2 GByte, mehr Kvpfe) an meiner NeXTstation hdngen. Ohne Probleme. Gru_, Matthias -- ** Matthias Zepf, Riegelaeckerstrasse 27, 71 229 Leonberg, Germany ** ** +49 7152 41917 Email: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (use NeXTmail!) ** ** !!! Mails >50k to zepfms@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de !!! **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Toshiba MK-438-FB 900MB SCSI-Disk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <1994Mar6.085448.18143@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Agnus' Home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany References: <1994Mar5.100516.6221@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 08:54:48 GMT Matthias Zepf (agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org) wote: > Andreas Haleger (ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at) schrieb: > > has anybody used this disk successfully with black hardware? I > > can only buy it, but have no opportunity to test it. It's like > > the cat in the bag. > > Ich habe die gleiche Platte in etwas grv_er (1,2 GByte, mehr > Kvpfe) an meiner NeXTstation hdngen. Ohne Probleme. Oops, sorry, this text should become a mail. In English: I'm using the same drive (Toshiba MK-538FB, 1.2 GB) with my NeXTstation without any problems. Both are the same drives... The MK-438FB has 11 heads (=900 MB), the MK-538FB has 15 heads (=1.2 GB). In between the MK-537FB is available, which has 13 heads (=1 GB). Matthias -- ** Matthias Zepf, Riegelaeckerstrasse 27, 71 229 Leonberg, Germany ** ** +49 7152 41917 Email: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (use NeXTmail!) ** ** !!! Mails >50k to zepfms@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de !!! **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: compatible monitors for mono-NextCube system Message-ID: <CM99xn.349@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <strobel.762731510@dirac> Distribution: na Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:27:22 GMT In article <strobel.762731510@dirac> strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu writes: #Two questions: #Are there any non-NeXT monitors that can be hooked into a monochrome NeXTCube #system as a *replacement* for the NeXTCube's monitor? My monitor is getting #blurry and the repair person says that it cannot be improved any further. #I need a megapixel monitor that would display the NeXTStep interface. Since the monitor handles all the keyboard functions you will also need a soundbox. In addition I don't know of any monitor that will work. You might have some luck with a high resolution mono monitor from a Sun or the like. THe monitor will have to accept individual horizontal and vert. sync. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: what toner cartridges can go inside next printer? Message-ID: <CM99zK.351@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2l5vah$6pn@news.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:28:31 GMT In article <2l5vah$6pn@news.tamu.edu> andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski) writes: #My next printer is running out of toner. What brand of cartridge #can I put in there? I ask because I recall someone saying long time ago #that the cartridge from next was the most expensive. Is there a #cheaper one that will work? # Any toner cart. the is labeled EP-S. Some HP and Apple printers have the engine as the NeXT printer. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Message-ID: <CM9A0J.35s@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:29:06 GMT In article <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: #Thanks to all those who responded to my previous post, entitled # "black color slab: What is 9th SIMM slot for?" # #OK. Now I know that the 9th SIMM slot is for a Digital Signal Processor #chip. Now the question is: What exactly does this chip do? Will it #lessen the delays in my screen graphics rendering? No. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I keep icon size unchanged when larger screen is used? Date: 7 Mar 1994 04:04:59 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2le95b$lm9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I recently bought a 21" monitor for my colorstation. Instead of the icons & windows staying the same size, they grew in proportion to the increase in screen size. I would like everything to stay the same physical size on the screen, so that I would effectively have more space (a longer dock, or more visible windows at one time, etc). If you tell postscript to draw a one inch line, aren't you always supposed to get one inch? How do I make my windows and icons go back to their old size? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 6 Mar 1994 23:09:00 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2le9cs$i6r@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: kay@nagasena.muc.de (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Searching for the best NoteBook as possible for NEXTSTEP. Date: 6 Mar 1994 09:23:09 GMT Organization: School and Education Centre Sender: kay@nagasena (Kay Schulz) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lc7dt$vv@nagasena.tynet.sub.org> References: <CM1x1q.8H2@cs.uiuc.edu> Can you post a summary please? -- Kay Schulz Germans: kay@nagasena.tynet.sub.org Foreigners: kay@nagasena.muc.de Others: /dev/null NeXTmail accepted Die Amerikaner haben Bob Hope, J. Cash, Stevie Wonder! Die Deutschen haben Helmut Kohl...... No hope, no cash, no wonder....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) Subject: Re: NS/i Generic PC Robustness? Motherboard Problems? Message-ID: <schwettCM9s69.LyD@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2l4g6a$jjc@imag.imag.fr> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:01:20 GMT >I suppose what I really want to find out here is if I buy a generic >'486DX based pc, how likely is it that NS/i will run... Well I've now check out NS/i on motherboards by Micronics, Dell, Diamond, Contaq, and a couple others, and in each case it has worked flawlessly. In fact, it seems to install and run MUCH cleaner that any of Microsoft's offerings to date... (with the exception of DOS ;-) Of course, many of these boards have built in hardware for things like SCSI or video that must be disabled since NeXT has no support for it; like the NCR SCSI on many PCI boards. And it is quite a hassle to install NS/i on a PC that boots from an IDE drive. Otherwise though, it works great. The only time I've seen it crash was when the power saving mode of a Gateway system kicked in. And that was easily preventable. Hope this helps, Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ia91meye@mr4661.htl-bw.ch (Roger Meyer) Subject: ISDN Adapter Message-ID: <1994Mar7.084003.12380@htl-bw.ch> Keywords: ISDN Sender: news@htl-bw.ch (USENET News System) Organization: HTL Brugg-Windisch, Switzerland Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 08:40:03 GMT Hello there I'd like to buy an ISDN adapter for my NeXTstation for getting connected to the InterNet via DialUp. I think there are two ISDN adapters available. My problem: Will they work in switzerland as well as in the USA? Thanks for helping me. Roger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kevins@bmd.com Subject: MIDI connecter Message-ID: <1994Mar7.014015.18360@bMD.com> Sender: kevins@bMD.com (Kevin Solie) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:40:15 GMT I have a drum machine that I am wanting to drive with my slab... I have an old Amiga MIDI cable but is doesnt work. Any clue how to wire one up that will work from the serial port??? What about through the DSP? --- Kevin Solie Director of Development: benchMark Developments, Inc. Director: Kentucky NeXTSTEP Users Group Software Engineer: Alternate Worlds Technology -- Man, that needle was really starting to piss me off!
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Su: Black Hardware: Toshiba MK-438-FB 900MB SCSI-Disk Date: 7 Mar 1994 10:27:43 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <2leviv$r7o@email.tuwien.ac.at> References: <2l2e2d$gn6@email.tuwien.ac.at> In article <2l2e2d$gn6@email.tuwien.ac.at> ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger) writes: > > Hi, > has anybody used this disk successfully with black hardware? I can only > buy it, but have no opportunity to test it. It's like the cat in the bag. > > Thank you very much, > -- Thanks to Andrew C Chang, Erik Jacobsen, Ted Shuck, Steve Turnbull and Matthias Zepf for their replies. The overall opinion is that the drive is hot, slow (officially 12ms) and noisy, but cheap and it works with black hardware (plug and play). Steve reported support problems: > our drive failed within 2 months it took another two months and many > phone calls to get toshiba to replace the dirve, even then they only > sent us a repaired drive. >I have seen similar stories on the net. As Matthias posted, there are three sizes of this model: > The MK-438FB has 11 heads (=900 MB), the MK-538FB has > 15 heads (=1.2 GB). In between the MK-537FB is available, which > has 13 heads (=1 GB) Because of its price I will probably buy it. I will report my experiences in about one month. Thanks again, -- == Andreas == Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail accepted.
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN Adapter Date: 7 Mar 1994 12:34:31 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <2lf70n$7ce@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1994Mar7.084003.12380@htl-bw.ch> Keywords: ISDN In article <1994Mar7.084003.12380@htl-bw.ch>, Roger Meyer <ia91meye@mr4661.htl-bw.ch> wrote: >I'd like to buy an ISDN adapter for my NeXTstation for getting connected >to the InterNet via DialUp. I think there are two ISDN adapters available. >My problem: Will they work in switzerland as well as in the USA? >Thanks for helping me. Doesn't work, don't do it. -- [Jess Anderson % anderson@doit.wisc.edu % Network Engineering Technology Group] [Systems Engineering Dept % Div of Information Technology % Univ of Wisconsin] [Room 3130 % 1210 West Dayton Street % Madison WI 53706 % Phone 608/262-5888] [---------> Force, and fraud, are in war the two cardinal virtues. <----------]
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: STB Pegasus Drivers for NEXTSTEP Date: 7 Mar 1994 13:09:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2lf92g$79i@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hi, Has _anybody_ heard any news about official drivers from NeXT for the STB Pegasus video card? I bought the card LAST SEPTEMBER with the assurance from STB that drivers would be out very soon since NeXT already had an evaluation card with them. Since then, the contact at STB hinted about a commercial driver that was in the works. I would really like to use the card at 1280x1024 in color, which it is capable of doing, instead of the 1024x768 12 bit color which I am getting using the #9 drivers. Will 1600x1200 grayscale be supported? I know that the Hardware Compatibility Guide states 1Q '94, but I'm curious whether a beta version of the driver is available. Anybody in the know care to comment? Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis) Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Message-ID: <CM9upB.1tB@kgnome.uucp> Sender: usenet@kgnome.uucp Organization: 3DT "Skunk Works" References: <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <2l8m08$5qd@inxs.concert.net> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:55:59 GMT Paradigm Shift, Inc. (info@paradigm-shift.com) wrote: : Actually, I believe Virtuoso and a couple of other graphics apps took advantage : of it but since most PCs don't have the DSP in them, support from most apps : have been removed. On a similar note, does anyone have a GCC that compiles for the DSP ? And possiblly some docs ? : Dave : -- : Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] : A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] : NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@paradigm-shift.com S. I. Matis
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (David Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: please help me with a 1542B/Sony 541 CD-ROM Date: 7 Mar 1994 09:58:07 -0600 Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2lfiuf$lsf@menudo.uh.edu> Hi, I just got a Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller and a sony 541 single speed CD-ROM. I was trying to install NeXT Step with it, and so far, no luck. The strange symptom is that the SCSI Bios of the SCSI card refuses to load upon bootup, (it works in my friend's machine, so may be my MB just doesn't like the SCSI controller? I have a 486 VLB board with Sis chipset) However, if I go under DOS and install the EZ SCSI software the CD-ROM seems to work just fine. However, NS doesn't like this one bit. Teh installation gets hung on the part where NS tries to Reset the SCSI bus, I've tried it about 10 to 15 times now, and at times, NS can get as far as recognizing the CD-ROM, and then says that it has problems reading off of the CD-ROM or something. However it always ends up getting hung up, maybe after one or several AHA timeouts (what are these anyways?) The CD-ROm and the controller card seems to be good because they work under DOS, and if I remember correctly, these are the same hardware that NeXT uses. Do I need a double speed CD-ROM just to install NS? The card is in its defaul configuration, and I've changed the interrupt and DMA channels and SCSI ID's to all sorts of combinations, all without any luck. right now, the setting is that the Adaptec 1542B is running with SCSI ID 7, the CD-ROM has SCSI ID 0. and the card is using IRQ 11, and DMA channel 5. any one has any ideas? Thanks in advance David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe) Subject: Request for advice on a large internal hard disk Message-ID: <1994Mar7.161020.7779@ornl.gov> Keywords: internal hard disk Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster) Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:10:20 GMT I want to replace my old Maxtor 330 MB internal hard disk in my 68040 cube with a new ~500 MB or ~1.0 GB hard disk. Thus, I have two questions: 1. What brand of hard disk would you recommend? I've heard some good things about Fujitsu (spelling?) hard disks, but I wonder if another brand might be better. 2. What is the best way to transfer all of my files from my 330 MB hard disk to the new hard disk? I use my 330 MB hard disk as my start-up disk and I would want the new hard disk to be my new start-up disk. Thanks in advance for any advice that you are willing to provide. Jim
From: steve.monett@cho.ge.com (Steve Monett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStation won't power up Date: 7 Mar 1994 10:21:34 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403071617.AA13404@ns.ge.com> I have a Monochrome NextStation that I am looking at for a friend. It won't power up. Here are the symptoms: when I touch the keyboard on-off key the speaker in the monitor clicks and I hear the high voltage come up on the monitor. It then immediately goes off. I opened up the system unit and checked the battery on the motherboard: OK. I then tried powering up again; same symptoms and I noticed that a small LED near the power supply connector lights for about 1 second. Can anyone help me with this problem? Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Monett steve.monett@cho.ge.com GE-Fanuc; Charlottesville, VA (804) 978-5907 -- Steve x5907 steve.monett@cho.ge.com -- Steve x5907 steve.monett@cho.ge.com
From: cjn@vaal.cpr (Christopher Nagel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerHouse Article in Business Week Date: 7 Mar 1994 16:38:44 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <2lflak$kjr@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <9402271045.AA00331@hoops> Fabulous! I was just about to post an impass ioned plea for NS port to the PowerPC! Note, also, however, the announcement (in c.s.n.a) about CCSI (Canon Computer...), which says it will *not* produce PowerPC machines! Chrisld be able to limit my liability by stating it in the cont ioned plea for NS port to the PowerPC! Note, also, however, the announcement (in c.s.n.a) about CCSI (Canon Computer...), which says it will *not* produce PowerPC machines! Chrisld be able to limit my liability by stating it in the contract, right? Thanks for any help offered! Chris (ANYTHIN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka) Subject: BusLogic 445S works! Message-ID: <CMAzI5.Aw9@ceco.ceco.com> Keywords: working Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:37:16 GMT Hi. I posted last week about the 445S to see if anyone had gotten it to work. Well, I did. I had to get the 4.50 BIOS and 3.31 firmware for BL, but NS does now recognize both the hard disk and the cd-rom. (I had 4.72 and 3.37 revs.) The only question I have (warning, maybe) is... how are you supposed to do this installation without already having a working copy of NS??? I had to make a NeXT formatted floppy and copy /usr/Devices/1542* onto it. Additionally, because of my video card (VLB), I had to change the Instance0.table and Default.table to read from range 0x230-233 instead of the default 0x330-333. At that point, booting from the upgrade disk and CD got as far as letting me install onto the partition I wanted. When the point came to reboot the system and actually install the rest of the software from the CD, it rebooted and then gave me a kernel panic. This was apparently due to the new 154x driver NOT having been installed on the hard disk. It MAY also have been because I at first didn't change the Default.table entry to look at address 0x230h. So this might not be a problem for anyone else. I'm just not certain whether it was the new driver that was not installed, or if it was the address range that was off. In any case, I had to boot off of the NS I had on my IDE drive, and copy the driver from IDE to the SCSI disk, then reboot without IDE again. At this point, success! Now that it IS running, it's quite nice. Seems peppy enough. I ran DrivePerformance but forgot to really pay close attention to the results- about twice what I go on my old NeXTstation with 520MB Fujitsu 3.5" disk. (The new one is a 1.7GB Micropolis 2217S) So if you want to go for it, give it a try. Hopefully, mine working isn't a fluke. I make no promises! Make sure to get the 4.50 BIOS and 3.31 firmware!! Mike Stepniczka mikes@ceco.ceco.com
From: dsdecasp@iiic.ethz.ch (Daniel Stefan Decasper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN Adapter Date: 7 Mar 1994 17:13:40 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Message-ID: <2lfnc4$6h2@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> References: <1994Mar7.084003.12380@htl-bw.ch> Keywords: ISDN In article <1994Mar7.084003.12380@htl-bw.ch>, Roger Meyer <ia91meye@mr4661.htl-bw.ch> wrote: >Hello there > >I'd like to buy an ISDN adapter for my NeXTstation for getting connected >to the InterNet via DialUp. I think there are two ISDN adapters available. >My problem: Will they work in switzerland as well as in the USA? No. No way. You need to buy a Terminal Adapter (~1000 sFr) and probably a router (if you can't do with 38400) in Switzerland. ISDN is far away from being an international standard. Dan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- = Dan S. Decasper email: dan@fanatic.open.ch or dsdecasp@iiic.ethz.ch = = Uetlibergstr.16 voice: 41-1-4930361 [NeXTMail ok]; = = CH-8142 Uitikon fax: 41-1-4930361 09/24/69 =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com (Joe Pasqua) Subject: Installing a system with new Adpaptec Driver Message-ID: <1994Mar7.181242.23431@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:12:42 GMT To those of you who have been trying to figure out how to use the new Adaptec driver while installing a system - wait for instructions. Unfortunately, when NeXT released this driver they omitted the instructions necessary to guide one through the process of installing a new system based on the driver. Failure to use the correct process will result in an unbootable system. Specifically, if you figure out how to put the driver onto a floppy in the correct form, you can install the mini-system from CD-ROM. However, when you attempt to reboot you will fail since the old Adaptec driver is loaded onto your hard disk from the CD-ROM. The correct process is not intuitively obvious to the casual observer and I strongly recommend waiting for NeXT to release a "blessed" procedure for such an installation. I have talked to NeXT about this and also submitted a bug report. Instructions should appear soon. Joe Pasqua Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Subject: Pentium System for Nextstep? Message-ID: <CMB6Ip.Ko1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:08:48 GMT I am interested in purchasing a brand name new Pentium Based PC which can also > run NEXTSTEP operating system, Microsoft Windows and MATHEMATICA. Can any one of recommend me a reasonably priced system for the above applications? > > Thanks.
From: ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Kloas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next,bln.comp.misc Subject: How to shut off Synchronous mode for IBM664M1H? Date: 7 Mar 1994 19:34:06 GMT Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ Message-ID: <2lfvjf$s2i@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> We have a problem with an IBM 2GB hard disk of the above type. We want to use it with a (black) NeXT that only supports asynchronous transfer (i.e. scsi-1 commands). Unfortunately the IBM is shipped set up for synchronous transfers and with no documentation :(. Does somebody know how to change the disk-setup? There seems to be no jumper available and I don't know which scsi-command could help. Do there exist prior experiences with this disk on black NeXT? If yes, a scsi-sense would be helpful. Thanks in advance, Matthias --- Matthias Kloas ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de
From: mcanji@vaxb.acs.unt.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Press Release: Protection for Workstations Date: 7 Mar 94 15:02:37 CST Organization: University of North Texas Message-ID: <1994Mar7.150237.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Mirko Canji SoftwarePlus (817) 566-5565 voice (817) 566-6743 FAX or Design Department Advanced Computing/SoftwarePlus 1-800-ALL-NeXT (US) 1-817-387-NeXT (International) SOFTWARE PLUS ANNOUNCES SHIPPING CONTAINERS FOR WORKSTATIONS AND PERIPHERALS DENTON, Texas -- March 7, 1994. SoftwarePlus announced the design and distribution of A.T.A. (Air Transport Association) approved hard-shell shipping containers for professional workstations and peripherals. All containers designed and sold by SoftwarePlus are manufactured by Keal Cases Inc., the largest manufacturer of shipping and storage containers in the Southwest. These rugged, reusable containers were originally designed for the U.S. Army Tactical Units computer systems, and are now used extensively by the U.S. Army, Air Force, Marines, and other branches of the military for the defense-critical equipment used in field operations. "Some businesses have learned the importance of good equipment protection the hard way..." Mirko Canji, SoftwarePlus' spokeperson said, "...In an attempt to be penny-wise they ended up a "dollar-short" after their equipment failed to boot at showtime! A shipping container for the whole workstation costs about the same as replacing a damaged hard drive." Each shipping container conforms to the A.T.A. Specification 300, Category 1 and pertinent MIL-STD 810 C and D specifications. Following the strict standards of the United States Government, these containers are of superior quality and durability, which makes them perfect for commercial companies or individuals who transport sensitive or valuable equipment.
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Date: 7 Mar 1994 22:41:20 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2lgaig$huh@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <CM9upB.1tB@kgnome.uucp> In article <CM9upB.1tB@kgnome.uucp> petergun%kgnome.uucp@vectrex.login.qc.ca (Stephane I. Matis) writes: > Paradigm Shift, Inc. (info@paradigm-shift.com) wrote: > : Actually, I believe Virtuoso and a couple of other graphics apps took advantage > : of it but since most PCs don't have the DSP in them, support from most apps > : have been removed. > > On a similar note, does anyone have a GCC that compiles for the DSP ? And > possiblly some docs ? I looked at this--I think it's on ftp.ccrma.stanford.edu or whatever they call their site nowadays. Its code isn't really that good. I didn't do extensive testing with it but I usually found I could do a *much* better job by hand. The author says that it *could* be made pretty efficient, but that he just didn't have time. Hope that helps a bit.... -- David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI connecter Date: 7 Mar 1994 22:43:34 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2lgamm$hvt@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <1994Mar7.014015.18360@bMD.com> In article <1994Mar7.014015.18360@bMD.com> kevins@bmd.com writes: > I have a drum machine that I am wanting to drive with my slab... I have > an old Amiga MIDI cable but is doesnt work. Any clue how to wire one up that > will work from the serial port??? What about through the DSP? > I did this on my '030 cube, using the Dr. T's Amiga interface. It seemed to work OK, although I haven't had that much time to really test it. You have to make sure power is being supplied to the interface--can't remember which pin its on but looking at Amiga serial pinouts and the Cabling documentation in NextAdmin should help you out. Doing this and using an old Amiga interface is probably the cheepest way of getting MIDI..... -- David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Can't ftp large files, only small ones Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 7 Mar 1994 19:44:41 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lg079$bi@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Hello, Perhaps someone can help me shed some light on this. I have at my disposal a brand X 486 machine running NEXTSTEP 3.2. Within it is a SMC EtherCard Plus Elite 16 Ethernet Adapter. Now the problem: 1) I upgraded from 3.1 to 3.2 using the Upgrader.app and I couldn't connect to machines outside my domain. However within my domain things went OK (though not too fast). 2) I noticed the same problem at home, where I had used the same method to upgrade my NeXTstation. So I did the upgrade from scratch. Now I can get out of my domain but if I want to ftp a file which is larger than say 26K, the process is stuck and the only thing left to me is to abort the ftp (which works). So it looks like large packets cannot arrive intact for some reason. With a ethernet sniffer I found out that the symptom of problem 1 was due to the fact that the next acknowledged packets which would be sent in the future while the other side ignored them and tried to retransmit. This might be considered a bug because the problem disappeared after an upgrade from scratch. I haven't "sniffed" at problem 2 yet. What is happening here? Is it due to a software problem, or is something wrong with the ethernet card? Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gast@charlie.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Gastkennung (PST)) Subject: Problems with floppies under NSI Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CMCK4z.1rx@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:00:34 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Keywords: floppy; floppy-controller; formating High Netters, since nobody is talking about it, I might have missed a solution; or I am the only one with that specific problem: I can t format floppies on my intel PC using NSI This is independant of the intended format (NeXT, DOS, Mac) and gives me strange error messages on the consol (about bad sectors, but the numbers change from floppy to floppy) My configuration: 486 DX with UMC chipset and AMI BIOS (produced by "Gigabyte") DTC 2270 VLB multi I/O controller ("Data Technology Corporation"), connected with: TEAC or Toshiba floppy disk drive (neither work) I have no problems using formated floppies, exept for multi volume files Any suggestions would be appreciated. You could probably reach me at thyl@octagon.de (NO NeXTmail please) . If I happen to get greater response, I will compile it. Thanks, Thyl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: How do I keep icon size unchanged when larger screen is used? Message-ID: <CMB0Do.u1@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <2le95b$lm9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:56:11 GMT In article <2le95b$lm9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: > I recently bought a 21" monitor for my colorstation. Instead of the icons > & windows staying the same size, they grew in proportion to the increase > in screen size. I would like everything to stay the same physical size on > the screen, so that I would effectively have more space (a longer dock, or > more visible windows at one time, etc). If you tell postscript to draw a > one inch line, aren't you always supposed to get one inch? How do I make > my windows and icons go back to their old size? Todd, your station/software does still produce a videosignal according to the same old resolution (1120*832 if I remember correctly). Now, if you just attach a larger screen, what is your poor hardware supposed to do? Obviously, it remains unchanged. Thus your larger monitor allows for bigger pixels in terms of square-centimeters. If you were to get more info - where should it come from? Of course, you can get MetroTools (?) which will allow to shrink icons in the dock etc. but still you loose accuracy because this shrinkage is done in hardware-pixels already - not your monitor-pixels. Simple : Whatever monitor with whatever pitch etc. you have : your station handles its own 1120*832 resolution. The resulting videosignal gets displayed on your monitor; the station-pixel-information in the video-signal gets equally distributed to your monitor-pixels. Thus one pixel-information might get displayed on 2*2 monitor-pixels while another would be mapped to 1*2 monitor-pixels if ratio was bad. --- Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok ) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688 == The revolution will not be posted ==
From: lsean@vnet.IBM.COM Message-ID: <19940307.164845.770@almaden.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 19:49:43 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black printer problem A few weeks ago... (sigh) the power cable of my NeXT printer got knocked off by accident. I was never able to get it to work since then. Software-wise, I've tried Printer Tester, Print Manager, nppower. None of them seems to recognize the existence of the printer. Hardware-wise, I've checked the connectivity of both power cable and signal cable. Both seem fine.Is there any other things I can try? Or is it time to call Bell Atlantic? Any help/pointer is appreciated. Sean
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tom@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Tom Arnow) Subject: NeXT floppy Question Message-ID: <1994Mar8.012850.26603@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:28:50 GMT Help! Both our NeXT floppy drives are down. Is this a standard 2.8 meg drive, or do I have to find one just for NeXT. Thanks Tom Arnow
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Be Cautious of Bell Atlantic Date: 8 Mar 1994 01:41:56 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lgl54$equ@inxs.concert.net> References: <19940307.164845.770@almaden.ibm.com> In article <19940307.164845.770@almaden.ibm.com> lsean@vnet.IBM.COM writes: > A few weeks ago... (sigh) > > the power cable of my NeXT printer got knocked off by accident. I was never > able to get it to work since then. Software-wise, I've tried Printer Tester, > Print Manager, nppower. None of them seems to recognize the existence of > the printer. Hardware-wise, I've checked the connectivity of both power > cable and signal cable. Both seem fine.Is there any other things I can try? > > Or is it time to call Bell Atlantic? Any help/pointer is appreciated. > I would think three or four times before calling Bell Atlantic...I had a customer send a printer he said was DOA back to Bell so they could repair it and send it back to us... We got the printer back in December and we today received an invoice for $285.00 for two hours of diagnostics on the little guy, even though it was covered under the warranty. They found it printed straight out of the box, but instead of telling us that they went ahead and did two hours of work on it...and just today we get a bill. Because we bitched, they credited our account, but just be careful before you send stuff to Bell...work is apparently slowing on the resale side for them so watch out on the service. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail/MIME Mail Welcomed info@paradigm-shift.com Authorized Reseller for: AT&T Global Information Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware From: leigh@cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh SMITH) Subject: patch for NS/FIP ET4000 video bug Message-ID: <leigh.762771948@wambenger> Summary: If you can't get your ET4000 at 1024x768, try this Keywords: ET4000,NS/FIP Sender: usenet@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia. Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 09:05:48 GMT I have produced a patch to the TsengLabs4000 driver to solve a bug setting the dot-clock. For some reason, the 3.2 driver does not program the Tseng Labs clock bit which allows access to the extended clocks, such as 65Mhz for 1024x768. I presume the original hardware tested must power up with the bit set whereas my ET4000 card (Total Peripherals clone) doesn't. This patch may not solve your ET4000 problems but if you have the developer version and can't get your card running, it could be worth the effort. The patch is pretty simple: 1. Copy the directory /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/TsengLabsET4000 2. Patch the file TsengLabsET4000/TsengLabsET4000_reloc.tproj/TsengLabsET4000.m (relative to the directory you copied to), in the TsengLabsET4000_1024x768x2x60hz_crtControllerRegisters[] array: Old - {0x14,0x00}, {0x15,0x04}, {0x16,0x22}, {0x17,0xC3}, {0x18,0xFF}, {0x33,0x00}, {0x35,0x00}, {-1, 0} New - {0x14,0x00}, {0x15,0x04}, {0x16,0x22}, {0x17,0xC3}, {0x18,0xFF}, {0x33,0x00}, {0x34,0x02}, {0x35,0x00}, {-1, 0} (Should be line 68) and in TsengLabsET4000_640x480_VGA_crtControllerRegisters[] array: Old - {0x33,0x00}, {-1, 0} New - {0x33,0x00}, {0x34,0x00}, // Disable the 65Mhz clock {-1, 0} (Should be line 237) 3. Edit TsengLabsET4000/English.lproj/Localizable.strings (my apologies to our foreign language counterparts, your kilometres may vary :-) and change the names to be able to distinguish them from the original driver, say: "TsengLabsET4000" = "My Tseng Labs ET4000"; "Long Name" = "My Tseng Labs ET4000-Based SuperVGA Video Adapter"; 4. Double click TsengLabsET4000/PB.project to bring up Project Builder, click Builder and then click Build with the target set to bundle. This should recompile the driver and produce TsengLabsET4000.config. 5. Log in as root. 6. Rename /NextLibrary/Devices/TsengLabsET4000.config to OriginalTsengLabsET4000.config. 7. Copy your new TsengLabsET4000.config into /NextLibrary/Devices 8. Run Config.app, select Display and remove your Default VGA driver (blech) then add My Tseng Labs ET4000 from the list of drivers (the original is still called Tseng Labs ET4000 - be careful. 9. Save the new configuration, logout and restart the machine. If everything worked, you should see a MUCH better image. If not, you'll need to restart with config=Default and BugNeXT about fixing their driver (not me!). 10. Caveat: When closing down the driver to 640x480 mode to tell you its safe to turn off the computer, the VGA programming seems to be done by code other than the ET4000 driver. Consequently, the extended dot-clock stays activated and this final message is smeared across the screen. I don't know if this is correct, but SoftPC seems to use the 640x480 code in the driver correctly, so I presume the solution for this problem is an update to the shutdown code. It's a small price to pay for 1024x768, IMHO :-). 11. Email me if these instructions make no sense, and I'll see if I can help. -- Leigh Smith, Dept of Computer Science: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au, +61-9-380-1947 University of Western Australia Fax: +61-9-380-1089 Home NeXTMail: leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au, +61-9-382-3071 *---=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=---*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Digital Audio-To and Fro? In-Reply-To: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 4 Mar 94 08:20:08 GMT To: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar5094742@capitalist.princeton.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <Mar.4.03.20.08.1994.26893@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 14:47:39 GMT In article <Mar.4.03.20.08.1994.26893@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: 1) Has anyone gotton play3401 to work on an Intel setup? It doesn't work on mine with the same CDROM I use on the ND. I get an error that looks like this: ...scsi generic ...scsi generic cant find any Toshiba 3401 drives, it only works with toshiba 3401s... The above is obviosly from my head and not a from a terminal window :) I'm afraid not. The reason for that is that currently I only have black hardware with the Toshiba 3401 and considering how little much of what I'm doing is documented much trial and error is required which is very hard if you don't have the proper hardware directly available. 2) Does anyone know how I can go about converting/transferring a .snd file onto a DAT. I mean put it onto a DAT audio tape so I can use it with my home audio DAT player? There is at least one SCSI DAT drive made by APS which can both function as a normal DAT drive (ie. for backups) _and_ read/write digital audio with a special ROM which APS sells for about $150. For more details you'll have to ask them. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Toshiba MK-438-FB 900MB SCSI-Disk In-Reply-To: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org's message of Sun, 6 Mar 1994 08:54:48 GMT To: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar6221013@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994Mar5.100516.6221@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> <1994Mar6.085448.18143@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 03:10:12 GMT In article <1994Mar6.085448.18143@amylnd.stgt.sub.org> agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf) writes: Ich habe die gleiche Platte in etwas grv_er (1,2 GByte, mehr Kvpfe) an meiner NeXTstation hdngen. Ohne Probleme. Hah ! And they say the ISOLatin dwrite for Emacs 19 for NS isn't useful ! Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Re: what toner cartridges can go inside next printer? Message-ID: <1994Mar8.001422.8820@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies References: <2l5vah$6pn@news.tamu.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:14:22 GMT The HP 92295A toner cartridge (~$75) works for me. Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting In article <2l5vah$6pn@news.tamu.edu> andrewd@sematech.tamu.edu (Andrew Duchowski) writes: > My next printer is running out of toner. What brand of cartridge > can I put in there? I ask because I recall someone saying long time ago > that the cartridge from next was the most expensive. Is there a > cheaper one that will work? > > Thank you! > > -- > -- Andrew Duchowski | Nothing unreal exists. -- > -- | -- > -- Texas A&M University | -- Kiri-Kin-Tha's first law -- > -- andrewd@cs.tamu.edu (NeXTmail ok) | of metaphysics --
From: daj@ccrma.stanford.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Digital Audio-To and Fro? Date: 8 Mar 1994 06:14:58 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2lh552$7k5@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <9403051250.AA13371@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > I suspect that the only solutions for this are from Ariel: DATPort and > DAT-Link. There's also the AD64x from Singular Solutions and the DAI2400 by Stealth. These both work with the NeXT DSP serial port.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Subject: FIMI Monitor goes blank! Message-ID: <1994Mar8.115845.24356@aragorn.unibe.ch> Sender: willers@itp10 (Moritz Willers) Organization: University of Berne Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 11:58:45 GMT Help!! After having the monitor on for some time it just switches itself off. After having waited some minutes I can switch it back on again for some minutes, if I wait longer for some hours. What's going on? Has anyone else experienced this before? -- Moritz Willers Institut fuer theoretische Physik, Bern email: willers@butp.unibe.ch
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with CD300? Date: 8 Mar 1994 15:07:46 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2li4c2$bi@steffi.demon.co.uk> If anybody is using a CD300 (specifically the Sony CD-ROM CDU-80003A (rev. 1.9a) ) under NS3.2 on Motorolla hardware I'd certainly like to hear from them. Currently it works _sometimes_ under CDPlayer.app. I get this message on the console. sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) DISK UNFORMATTED Disk is Write Protected --- However, if I try another program which supposably does the same thing as CDPlayer.app. I get. sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) continually to the console. -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is C10OP_PLAYBACKSTATUS = c4h NeXT specific? Date: 8 Mar 1994 15:59:51 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2li7dn$lo@steffi.demon.co.uk> Is the above opcode a NeXT specific opcode in their firmware for the CD-ROM drive? The software that I am using is failing at this point with this on the console. sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0xc4 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x20 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: bf148@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Shad Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec AIC-7770 SCSI Date: 8 Mar 1994 16:36:53 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2li9j5$pai@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hi, I am trying to load NSI 3.2 on an Ambra DP60EVL Pentium that uses the Adaptec AIC-7770 chipset on the motherboard. Does anyone have a driver for this or any hints on how I can make it work? Any help much appreciated, Shad -- .;:=/||_|00)\..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.dcom.isdn From: karl@khaos.com (Karl Hanzel) Subject: Any ISDN fans out there? Message-ID: <1994Mar8.053355.12167@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Sender: karl@nugget.rmNUG.ORG Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group Distribution: na Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 05:33:55 GMT Hello, I'm just doing a preliminary study to find out if people are using ISDN yet, and what your impressions are. Are you? What's your metro-location? How long have you had it? What do you think? Where can i find out more? (I just now discovered comp.dcom.isdn, as well as the FAQ, thanks!) Thanks pax, Karl *-----> -- Karl Hanzel Boulder, Colorado karl@khaos.com (NeXT Mail) or hanzel@comet.ucar.edu
From: "Scott A. McIntyre" <S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitors for NeXTstation Colours (non turbo) Date: 08 Mar 1994 17:34:01 GMT Organization: I speak for myself Distribution: world Message-ID: <S.A.MCINTYRE.94Mar8173401@shrug.dur.ac.uk> I may be moving from the Uk in the near future and would interested in hearing how hard it would be to purchase a monitor for a NeXTstation Colour in the Boston area -- what monitors are compatible, using exactly what cables, etc...its just too expensive I think to ship the monitor. I'd be happiest with black, but hey, I know that's not likely. Thanks, scott -- GSS d-- -p+ c++++ !l u++ e+++@ m++(*) s+/+@ n+ h-- f+@(?) g+ w+++ t++ r- y**(+) EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk WWW: http://shrug.org/pages/scott/scottm.html "In another novel, I *am* you"
From: lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR SCSI driver Date: 8 Mar 1994 18:41:53 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2ligth$25p@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There seems to be some misunderstanding about my last post. What I wanted to say was that it sounded to me that anyone else _but_ (not) me had this driver... Sorry to disappoint you. Lars P. S.: I am still desperately seeking for PCI NCR SCSI drivers. Any info appreciated. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lars Grupe UID lunde <lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de> Technische Universitaet Berlin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III) Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Message-ID: <1994Mar8.201656.9262@altsys.com> Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX References: <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> <2l8m08$5qd@inxs.concert.net> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 20:16:56 GMT In article <2l8m08$5qd@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com writes: >In article <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl >(Annard Brouwer) writes: >> In article <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd >> Takken) writes: >> > OK. Now I know that the 9th SIMM slot is for a Digital Signal Processor >> > chip. Now the question is: What exactly does this chip do? Will it >> > lessen the delays in my screen graphics rendering? >> > >> Absolutely nothing! :-))) It's sitting there nice and quietly not getting in >> anybody's way. Amongst the programs which use it are such applications as >> MusicKit programs, some sound thingies, a DSPTTY program and the >Mandlebrot.app >> from the 3.0 release. >> What a pity eh? >> >Actually, I believe Virtuoso and a couple of other graphics apps took advantage >of it but since most PCs don't have the DSP in them, support from most apps >have been removed. > >Dave >-- >Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] >A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] >NeXTMail Welcomed (temporary domain) info@paradigm-shift.com > > Virtuoso does not now nor has it ever done anything with/to/by/around/under the DSP. Thanks -- Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060 269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD Rom observations. Date: 8 Mar 1994 20:36:44 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2links$1sh@steffi.demon.co.uk> I've just been studying the code to xcdplayer and in there they include support for both the sun and the sgi drives. It's incredibly easy addressing a cd-rom drive in those operating systems. There is a published set of ioctl calls to make life very easy. ie. at a more abstract leven than that which NeXT provides. On the Amiga and the NeXT this isn't the case and you have to deal with raw SCSI commands instead. I'd like to hear people's experiences about developing a _portable_ set of CD-ROM routines. Are there many apps that support multiple vendors CD rom drives? If so what issues did you have to deal with in providing support for these drives in your app? The most difficult that I can think of is actually getting the specific information on the drives from the vendors. This is a painstaking process. I'd like to know how NeXT's firmware differs from SONY 8003 series. Is this a fair observation? NeXT, because their customers haven't ask for it and they deem it to be of low priority have decided that they only _need_ to fix "things" which are at a "Kit" level? What's been done with regard to BSD enhancements? (Note: that's not a retorical question) Don't tell me that Unix isn't under the hood because it is and all the talk I've seen on this issue indicates an alarming trend of getting further and further away from the a solid/useful (at the system programming level) system. Anybody got a slightly used SGI they want to sell me :-) -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Message-ID: <1994Mar8.201229.24841@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada References: <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 20:12:29 GMT In article <2l88bh$nc@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) writes: > In article <2l693f$fmj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd > Takken) writes: > > OK. Now I know that the 9th SIMM slot is for a Digital Signal Processor > > chip. Now the question is: What exactly does this chip do? Will it > > lessen the delays in my screen graphics rendering? > > > Absolutely nothing! :-))) It's sitting there nice and quietly not getting in > anybody's way. Amongst the programs which use it are such applications as > MusicKit programs, some sound thingies, a DSPTTY program and the Mandlebrot.app > from the 3.0 release. > What a pity eh? > > Annard > -- > Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. > - Annard Brouwer > annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated) Ok, so now that that's out of the way, just *how* exactly does one go about making use of the DSP? I've not seen any references in any of the prog manuals on how program with the DSP. Mind you, I haven't really looked that hard, so I've probably missed something. But it seems such a waste to have a marvelous DSP chip sitting around doing nothing. How can I tap into it's processing power from Obj-C programs? Do I have to learn (ugh) assembly? I know it's related to snd files sometimes (witness the DSPFFT routines lurking on cs.orst.edu somewhere). Someone tell me more! :) And on that note, is source available for Mandelbrot.app? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eugene Mah ----> eugene@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXT-Mail) grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very Department of Radiology Little Brain, and University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me." Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Winnie the Pooh
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory Message-ID: <143897@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 8 Mar 94 20:56:06 GMT Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology OK, I'm not a hardware expert, so he goes: What's with all the different type of memory? I take it a Simm is not a Simm. I've seen 1x9, 70ns, 100ns, 36 pin, 72 pin, etc. I can deal with size (i.e. this is a 1 meg simm) and speed (i.e. this is a 70ns simm), but what about the other descriptors? How can I tell what type a simm is by looking at it? I have a NeXT cube, it has 8 1 meg simms, 100ns. If I want to upgrade to, say, 16 meg, what specifically do I need to get? Can I mix 70ns with the 100's ? And once I do install additional memory, does the machine automatically recognize it? I ask becuase I slapped in 4 MEG from an intel machine (1 meg simms, 70ns), and the NeXT gave me some criptic message. Thanks for any info, -- David W Rinker Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202 Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: anderson (Ken Anderson) Subject: Laptop advice please... Message-ID: <1994Mar8.163304.10423@biztech.com> Sender: news@biztech.com Organization: Biztech, Inc. Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:33:04 GMT Looking for advice for a NEXTSTEP laptop purchase: o > 300 MB HD (swappable HD would be nice) o Trackball on main unit o Fast as possible o Weight not that important o Docking station (with > resolution a plus) o > 640x480?? (doubt it) Thanks, Ken Anderson anderson@biztech.com Stamford, CT
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 32-bit color in other than Miro Crystal32S Date: 8 Mar 1994 21:32:38 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2liqtm$eu3@Times.Stanford.EDU> What 2MB video cards have drivers which allow them to do 32-bit color (necessarily at a very low resolution)? It looks from the hardware compatibility guide like only the Compaq QVision 1280/E. Don't any of the other drivers support low res 32-bit color? Wouldn't it be great if this were supported by the really fast 2MB video options (Wingine and the Viper). Do the people who are working on the Viper driver, or who have seen it in action, want to share with the rest of us what video modes will be supported? So it seems like if you want 32-bit color, your are stuck getting the high end Miro 32S, or buying Compaq. -Karl P.S. The hardware compatibility guide says that the Miro 32S does 16-bit color at 1280x1024 with only 2MB. Is this a typo and it should be 4MB? (1280x1024 = 1301720, 1301720x16bits = 2.5MB.)
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: why not buy Gateway2000 (to run NEXTSTEP/Intel) ??? Date: 8 Mar 1994 22:13:25 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> [This sort of follows up on the thread about general robustness of NS/I.] Is NEXTSTEP compatibility a yes/no issue, or are there shades of gray? Both the hardware compatibility guide and resellers like Alpine use phrases like "greatest degree of NEXTSTEP compatibility." What does this mean? Is there such a thing as slightly compatible, or slightly incompatible? Or if you get NS/I installed and working on a system, are you pretty much sure you are set? Specifically, if you use all known-NS/I-compatible components [SCSI controller (DPT or Adaptec), video card (ATI/Miro/etc.), sound card (PAS), network card (Intel EE), etc.], is the motherboard the only thing that can screw up NS compatibility? I've been watching the NS/I hardware market for a while, and I had given up on Gateway2000 a long time ago since they don't care about NS, until Steve Korneich advertised a used Gateway P5-60 Pentium for what looked like a really cheap initial offer. The reason it looked even cheaper than it was is that I had been used to looking at DEC/Dell/NEC prices. [Steve, hope you managed to sell your system.] The Gateway Pentium machines now use an Intel PCI motherboard. Steve got the one he bought in Nov. to work with NS. I'm sure the board has been through minor revisions since then, but I doubt that it is fundamentally incompatible now. For comparison with DEC (Dell, NEC, etc. are all roughtly similar), as of a few days ago, but before the new Intel chip systems:: Gateway: P5-60 Pentium system, 16mb ram, Intel PCI mb, (Diamond Viper 2MB) $3295 (see computer shopper, March) -$100 to drop CD-ROM, -430 to drop monitor, +650 upgrade to 1GB Seagate SCSI HD = $5215 (comes with Adaptec 1542<something> adaptor) ----- $3415 DEC: $3699 for same cpu, 8MB less RAM, only 340MB HD, generic S3-928 video with only 1MB VRAM ($700 to upgrade to Viper 2MB) I don't remember exactly, but I think it was over $5000 for a system similarly equipped to the Gateway, with the only advantages to the DEC being the on-board NCR PCI SCSI adaptor and known NS compatibility. Note, these prices have changed since the new Pentiums came out. (Someone in the gateway group said $3995 for the 90MHz Pentium, $3295 for the 66, and $2495 for the 60. Add a few hundred to drop the extras and get 1GB SCSI. So...do these current Intel motherboards work with NS? Who (besides Steve Kornreich) has successfully gotten NS/I to run on Gateway Pentium/PCI machines? Who has given up trying to get NS/I running on a Gateway? Why not buy Gateway for the motherboard/processor/HD/SCSI-controller/ and initial-RAM ??? [And for resellers like Alpine, Paradigm-Shift, etc.: Why not resell Gateway? Seems like a win-win situation. As long as the motherboard works, you can sell much cheaper Pentium and high-end 486 systems then by reselling DEC, NEC, etc. You are in the perfect position to install known-NEXTSTEP-compatible peripherals (everything from SCSI controller, to video card, to sound card, etc.), and it's a big win for Gateway too. They don't want to deal with NEXTSTEP because it is a small chunk of the market, but I'm sure they'd love to have even that small chunk become dedicated to them. This is a no-effort way for them to do that; all they have to do is sell there systems to resellers. When Gateway changes the motherboard, that should be the only critical thing that needs to be re-tested. Disclaimer: I don't really know much about the reselling business. This is just an idea, but if I owned such a business, I'd be busily investigating it.] -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: How do I keep icon size unchanged when larger screen is used? Message-ID: <CMBnBv.5yF@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2le95b$lm9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:11:55 GMT In article <2le95b$lm9@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: #I recently bought a 21" monitor for my colorstation. Instead of the icons #& windows staying the same size, they grew in proportion to the increase #in screen size. I would like everything to stay the same physical size on #the screen, so that I would effectively have more space (a longer dock, or #more visible windows at one time, etc). If you tell postscript to draw a #one inch line, aren't you always supposed to get one inch? How do I make #my windows and icons go back to their old size? Since the NeXT has a fixed resolution adding a large monito does nothing but make everything bigger. You can change the type size in your browser but icons will be bigger no matter what. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32-bit color in other than Miro Crystal32S Date: 8 Mar 1994 23:47:50 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2lj2r6$5s8@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2liqtm$eu3@Times.Stanford.EDU> The beta eCesys Wingine driver supports 800x600 32 bit color. R. de Lucca Johns Hopkins University
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NCR SCSI driver Date: 8 Mar 1994 23:55:32 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lj39k$4m5@inxs.concert.net> References: <2ligth$25p@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> In article <2ligth$25p@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> lunde@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lars Grupe) writes: > P. S.: I am still desperately seeking for PCI NCR SCSI drivers. > Any info appreciated. Send inquiries to mark@talus.com...we are beta testing their driver. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail/MIME Mail Welcomed info@paradigm-shift.com
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: why not buy Gateway2000 (to run NEXTSTEP/Intel) ??? Date: 9 Mar 1994 00:15:27 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lj4ev$50t@inxs.concert.net> References: <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > So...do these current Intel motherboards work with NS? > Yes, we have it running on the Intel PCI Premiere system with a Viper PCI card > [And for resellers like Alpine, Paradigm-Shift, etc.: Why not resell > Gateway? We won't speak for Kris at Alpine but a primary reason is technical support from Gateway that maybe not all end users require, but is expected from a hardware manufacturer. Common knowledge about Gateway is their problems, primarily related to staffing issues I believe, with technical support. I have been selling hardware now (albeit in the NeXT community for about 1.5 years) for about ten years in a major market (Washington, DC) and my observations about the industry is that companies like Gateway and Zeos and ALR all have a place in this industry. I personally don't like to find out about motherboard switches, ROM switches and the like only after a customer's hardware has come in (especially with as particular NeXTSTEP is about what it will work on) (a ROM incompatibility with the Gateway V-Series comes to mind). We used to experience this with Leading Edge and their hardware. In DC, The Computer Factory sold IBM, Compaq, NEC and Leading Edge. My preference in order of choice was NEC, Compaq, Leading Edge and IBM....but I digress. Although this reason is not applicable to us as we wouldn't carry Gateway anyhow...Gateway, like Ambra and Zeos, et. al., do not provide resellers discounts on hardware...they are not sold in stores or in anyway except directly to the end-user (which helps in the pricing department). Ambra will give us a 2% discount off of their pricing if we buy more than $20,000 for equipment (what incentive does that provide for us to sell). More to the point...if your Data General, Digital, Intel, etc. PCs decide to fry, once of their service trucks are onsite to you whether you are on Duke University or down-under in New Zealand. I don't believe you can get that type of service from Gateway, Zeos, et. al. When you buy a Data General PC, you get one of the few hardware vendors that actually has a team in Westboro, MA that does nothing but work with NeXTSTEP. DG also pre-loads the OS in the hard drive in their integration facility which saves us a lot of time when sending out multiple systems. There are many reasons some PCs cost more than others...Canon's offerings are going to be spectacular...I would expect Canon to be your major platform of choice when those systems are released. The technology that they are working with should have their 486 units running on par with current Pentiums. We will carry their hardware as well. Long enough post...need to leave for DC overnight. Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Re: Memory Message-ID: <CMDEBy.EKy@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <143897@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:52:44 GMT David W. Rinker (gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote: : OK, I'm not a hardware expert, so he goes: : What's with all the different type of memory? I take it a Simm is not : a Simm. I've seen 1x9, 70ns, 100ns, 36 pin, 72 pin, etc. I can deal : with size (i.e. this is a 1 meg simm) and speed (i.e. this is a 70ns : simm), but what about the other descriptors? How can I tell what : type a simm is by looking at it? That's not the worst of it. There's also "page mode" and "nibble mode" simms. Somehow I got stuck with 2 nibble mode simms which wont mix with another 2 page mode simms. I have to have 4 nibble mode simms. Geesh! : I have a NeXT cube, it has 8 1 meg simms, 100ns. If I want to : upgrade to, say, 16 meg, what specifically do I need to get? Can : I mix 70ns with the 100's ? And once I do install additional memory, : does the machine automatically recognize it? I ask becuase I slapped : in 4 MEG from an intel machine (1 meg simms, 70ns), and the NeXT : gave me some criptic message. In your next cube, you have to have groups of 4 simms that are the same, and the faster ones have to go into the first slot group (at the edge of the board) What error message? : Thanks for any info, : -- : David W Rinker : Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 : Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202 : Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail odisseas
From: ilg@imp.ch (Philippe Steindl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI CD-ROM needed .. which one? Date: 9 Mar 1994 02:22:15 +0100 Organization: Improware AG, Fuellinsdorf, Switzerland Message-ID: <2lj8c7$1d4@indigo.imp.ch> Hia ppl, I need a SCSI cdrom to run with my PC, an ordinary 486/33 with an Adaptec 1542C scsi card. Which one would you suggest? It would be cool if it's not that expenseive (I can life with double speeds :)). thanx Philippe Steindl PS: Is this in a FAQ? If yes, could somebody mail me such a FAQ? thanx.
From: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com (Peter Lipps) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 32-bit color in other than Miro Crystal32S Date: 9 Mar 1994 00:06:49 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2lj3up$1n6@rosie.next.com> References: <2liqtm$eu3@Times.Stanford.EDU> Keywords: 32-bit color In article <2liqtm$eu3@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > ... > So it seems like if you want 32-bit color, your are stuck getting the > high end Miro 32S, or buying Compaq. A driver for miroCRYSTAL 16i is in the works. Wait for CeBIT (March 16 - 23, 1994) to hear about another option for 32-bit color - actually a family of graphic cards including low-, middle- and very-high-end (> 1408 x 1024 x 16) cards. BTW, NeXT will have its own booth at CeBIT (Hall 2, B50) and will be present - among others - on the HP, Sun, and Borland booths. Expect to see: NEXTSTEP and NEXTSTEP Developer (of course) Portable Distributed Objects (for HP/UX 9.x and Solaris 2.x) NEXTSTEP on HP PA-RISC Pentium-PCI with ???? graphic card running at > 1408x1024x16 and a lot of other things. -Peter P.S. BTW, CeBIT it Hannover, Germany, is the world biggest computer show. The COMDEX show floor probably fits in 3 of the 20 CeBIT halls. ______________________________ Peter Lipps NeXT Computer Deutschland GmbH - Oskar-Messter-Str. 24, 85737 Ismaning, Germany InterNet: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: garyc@news.eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) Subject: Monitor Saver [Do it the HARD way....] Message-ID: <CMDqxE.9ty@eecs.nwu.edu> Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 04:24:50 GMT Hi, netters, Have you discovered the littele hardware device in the Review Desk of the latest issue of NeXTWorld (Mar)? It's called a Montor Saver for NeXTs. Wait a second, for that I am not quite sure whether it is for a NeXT-NeXT or a NeXT-PC? Or does it support both Mono and Color NeXTs. Basically, it's a little piece of hardware that connects between your keyboard, mouse, and monitor. the Monitor Saver will turns the monitor off when it senses a period of inactivity of keyboard & mouse. The monitor will be powered back on immediately right after a new event occurs. Currently I do this manually, and I am not sure how long the switch on my Fimi Color monitor will last........ :-( Despite of its 3 cubes rating, I am eager to give it a try at $29, so I can kick out BackSpace and save some real useful memory, not to mention the power of enegry my color monitor used to add up. Does anyone have the 1st hand info about this thing? Gary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: CD Rom observations. Message-ID: <1994Mar8.233855.11669@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) References: <2links$1sh@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:38:55 GMT In article <2links$1sh@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > talk I've seen on this issue indicates an alarming trend of getting > further and further away from the a solid/useful (at the system programming > level) system. > > Anybody got a slightly used SGI they want to sell me :-) I think you've answered the question yourself, if you want a solid/useful system programming box, you go for something like a Sun (or in your view an SGI). NeXT don't purport to sell the best, most useful, most solid solution at the systems level. Its frustrating (there are lots of things I'd like to see in the system), and in many cases it would be so simple to fix (look how many of the Unix utilities bundled with NS are just plain old, original BSD versions), but with their reduced resource in-house I'm kinda glad they don't devote any of it to systems work. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: Re: patch for NS/FIP ET4000 video bug Message-ID: <1994Mar8.180416.11745@radical2.radical.com> Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. References: <leigh.762771948@wambenger> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:04:16 GMT Leigh SMITH writes > > I have produced a patch to the TsengLabs4000 driver to solve a bug setting > the dot-clock. For some reason, the 3.2 driver does not program the Tseng Labs > clock bit which allows access to the extended clocks, such as 65Mhz for > 1024x768. I presume the original hardware tested must power up with the bit set > whereas my ET4000 card (Total Peripherals clone) doesn't. This patch may not > solve your ET4000 problems but if you have the developer version and can't get > your card running, it could be worth the effort. > I tried the patch with my old Diamond SpeedSTAR PLUS Version 4.23 and it works GREAT!!!! My out-of-sync video problem went away. 1024 X 768 on a 14" monitor isn't the best, but it sure beats the heck out of 640 X 480!!!! A job well done!!!! Thanks!!! -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jeffblum@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) Subject: DIP/jumper settings for 400MB HD? Message-ID: <1994Mar9.010751.18518@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 01:07:51 GMT Does anyone have the DIP/jumper settings for the 400MB HD that comes with a NeXTstation? I lent my drive to a friend, and he fiddled with them to try and get it to work in a mac, and now I don't know how they should be set. <sigh> thanks for any assistance. -jeff -- "His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does there exist GX/Pro internal SCSI driver? Message-ID: <murao.94Mar9134710@blueslab> Date: 9 Mar 94 18:47:10 GMT Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Distribution: comp Organization: Information Processing Center Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi folks, I eager for GX/Pro internal SCSI driver. Is there already available? Kindly, please inform me. Thanks. --- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hajime Murao <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> -*- NeXTmail gladly accepted !! Graduate School of Science and Technology, Kobe University, Japan Phone 078-881-1212 (ext.2733) / FAX 078-882-4888 / NIFTY NAA01617
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: SOLVED: NS + NXFax + ZyXEL Message-ID: <1994Mar8.233307.11395@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:33:07 GMT Hi you all, Couple of weeks ago I asked help with my new ZyXEL + NXFax that worked ok with the exception of problems when doing a remote login. What finally solved it all was to use my port A instead of B. The DTR line on B was giving -5 volt when off (that's ok), but -0.7 volt when on. And that should be +5 volt. So, when the ZyXEL gets no DTR it just passes the Hayes commands it get, on to the remote terminal. Well I'm partly rescued, because my printer (which was on port A) can do without a DTR. However, does anyone have had the same experience. And how difficult is this to repair? So my advise is: exchange ports when having RS423 problems, even when everything seems to be allright when you use you breakout-box. Bye, Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what's the BEST mouse for NS/486? Date: 9 Mar 1994 08:09:26 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> Hi all, I am currently using a microsoft compatible serial mouse with NS/486 system. I'm using ATI GUP / VL video card and with the the setup, the mouse doesn't working very well. I have heard from some people about how good a Logitec bus mouse would work with NS/486 system. Is it still true? What about the original Micorsoft Mouse? If you have any good suggestions on selecting a mouse for NS/486 please share your opinion with me. Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) Subject: Help! NextDimension troubles. Message-ID: <1994Mar9.082051.6973@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 08:20:51 GMT I recently acquired a NextDimension [through Sam Goldberger at Spherical. He has been wonderful to do business with... I can't recommend Sperical highly enough]. In any case, I am having trouble getting the thing to work. I install it, and it gets all the way up to the end of the boot cycle. Then it prints these three messages, [extra newlines inserted for the sake of net.politness] Mar 7 20:59:17 localhost mach: NeXTdimension Board in Slot 2: Mar 7 20:59:17 localhost mach: ROM Version 43, Memory Controller step 1, i860 step C.1 Mar 7 20:59:17 localhost mach: 32 Mbytes of DRAM installed, NTSC video configured and hangs *hard* as in none of the standard ways to kill things work anymore. Does anyone have any clue what might be wrong? Obviously, I would like to hear that it is a simple software configuration problem, but any leads would be appreciated. For the record, I am running NextStep 3.0 developer [if it's essential I can upgrade to 3.[12], but I'd prefer not to since my machine *is* currently just fine for the real work I do on it, and I can't afford to have things [especially TeX] break. -- William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science --- snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be. ===============================================================================
From: nishimu@macro.co.jp (Tosh Nishimura) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/i on Compaq Message-ID: <NISHIMU.94Mar9175726@janis.macro.co.jp> Date: 9 Mar 94 08:57:26 GMT Sender: nishimu@macro.co.jp (Tosh Nishimura) Organization: Macro Engineering Co., Ltd. Taito-ku Tokyo, Japan. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 I installed NS/i(3.1J) on Compaq ProLinea 4/66. It has a ISA-bus, and ET4000 on its local bus. So I use it B/W mode. Its has 24Mbytes Memory but NS/i recognizes only 16MByte. So I checked NeXTAnswer and I found Compaq DeskPro/M(that has an EISA-bus) has a SETUP utility that change its memory-mode from Compaq-compatible mode to linear mode. How can I change ISA-machine's memory-mode? Any help is appreciated. nishimu
From: hugh%furuike.UUCP@tanuki.twics.com (Hugh Ashton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Kensington trackball (TurboMouse v4.0) Date: 9 Mar 1994 05:38:37 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403091135.AA00326@furuike> I've just got hold of one of these beasts and have plugged it into my ADB black NeXT. It's quite nice, as it has 2 ADB ports on the back, meaning I can use the original mouse as well. I was getting severe cramp in my mouse hand, and I'm hoping this will help (after all, the military must have a reason for trackballs (other than the fact they don't fall off the desk when the ship/plane rolls)). However, the left button and ball work fine, but the right button acts as a right arrow. Has anyone developed a way of making the right button useful? Many thanks Hugh Ashton +-----------------------------------------------------------+ \ NeXTMail preferred \ \ If address is mangled, reply to: hugh@furuike.twics.com \ +-----------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: jcruz@animal.inescn.pt (Jose Manuel de Magalhaes Cruz) Subject: Communication Problems with (some) Nexts Message-ID: <CME8tB.J2G@animal.inescn.pt> Keywords: Communication, en0, collisions Organization: INESC-Porto, Portugal Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 10:51:09 GMT Hello We have 6 Nexts in our working room, together with 1 Sun Sparcstation 2. Every machine got along with each other just fine, as well as with the several tens of other machines in our network (192.35.246). Until another Sun (a Sparserver 10) arrived. Every next (EXCEPT one), has difficulties communicating with the newly arrived Sun (approximately 50% of the packets exchanged is lost, and collisions are detected). Communications with every other hosts in the network continues fine, and the new Sun also communicates well with them. The curious point is that, as I said, one of the Nexts has no problems talking with the new Sun! How about that? If anybody has a clue to what migth be causing this strange behavior, I sure would appreciate his/her help. Some relevant information: * Both Suns run SunOs 4.1.3 (at the moment; will change soon) and are configured similarly; * "hostinfo" output of Next that is Ok: --- Mach kernel version: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT 1992; root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K Kernel configured for a single processor only. 1 processor is physically available. Processor type: MC680x0 (68040) Processor speed: 25 MHz Processor active: 0 System type: 2 Board revision: 0x0 Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes. Default processor set: 62 tasks, 99 threads, 1 processors Load average: 0.01, Mach factor: 0.98 --- * "hostinfo" output of some other Nexts (differences): --- Processor speed: 33 MHz Processor active: 0 System type: 5 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes. ... --- Processor speed: 33 MHz Processor active: 0 System type: 8 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes. ... Processor speed: 33 MHz Processor active: 0 System type: 4 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 16.00 megabytes. --- * ping and netstat and were used to analyse the problem: ** "ping -s Next" running in Sun; "netstat -I en0 2" running in Next detects collisions; "netstat -s" runned in Next, reports that every icmp Echo was Replyed (but approximately only half of the number of Echos sent were seen!) ** "ping Sun" running in Next; "netstat -I ie0 2" running in Sun, DO NOT! "netstat -s" runned in Sun, reports that every icmp Echo was Replyed (and every Echo is seen) * It seems to be of a low or hardware level (Board revision?). ________________________________________________________________ J. Magalhaes Cruz jmcruz@micas.inescn.pt INESC-Porto Tel. +351 2 321006 (ext. 4016) Lg. Mompilher, 22 Telex 23023 INESC P 4007 Porto Codex Fax +351 2 318692 PORTUGAL _________________________________________________________________
From: wills@foo.mitre.org (Andrew F. Wills) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead Monitor Date: 9 Mar 1994 14:07:42 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation Message-ID: <2lkl7e$dva@newsflash.mitre.org> Keywords: monitor broken I've got a NeXT 17" monitor built in 1991, it's the Phillips tube (sigh)... anyhow, this thing has croaked. I think it's the high voltage, but I'm not 100% positive. The symptoms were these: 1) About 6 months ago, I started getting intermittent vertical jumpyness. A cycle of the power usually cured this. 2) Recently, the monitor would start taking longer and longer to power up after I let it cool off for a while. It would come right back up if it was warm already. 3) Last night, it would seem that it finally had a catastrophic failure. I get no degaus sound, no grid power up sounds... nothing. Any ideas? Has anybody worked on these beasts before? Any similar experiences? Any help would be greatly appreciated, since it would be highly unlikely for my employer to pay for fixing it, since black hardware is no more. Thanks in advance... Andy Wills The MITRE Corporation Workstation Systems Engineering Center awills@mwunix.mitre.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: leadedge@world.std.com (Leading Edge) Subject: Questions about NeXT cube. Message-ID: <CMEnCA.8Iz@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:04:57 GMT I just received a NeXT cube without, of course, the hardware manuals. I'm not certain, but I assume it's a 030 (68030 25Mhz). It has 8 1Mbx8-100ns SIMMs in it, will any of the following work to upgrade it further? 1Mbx9-80 (PC type 9 chip) 1Mbx9-70 (PC type 3 chip) 4Mbx9-70 (PC type 9 chip) 1Mbx8-70 (PC type 2 chip) Unfortunatly, about the only type of SIMM I don't have is 1Mbx8 8 chip. The system came with a 660 Mb optical drive, does anyone know a source, and approximate cost of the disks? Also, if anyone has any specs (speed, media life, etc) I'd appreciate it. The 2 serial ports on the back, is there an adaptor to attach an RS232 modem? Thanks, -Erik Swimm
From: Gunnar.Aarnes@si.sintef.no (Gunnar Aarnes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with ATI Ultra Pro and PC Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:18:01 Organization: Sintef-Si, Norway Message-ID: <Gunnar.Aarnes.3.00114D69@si.sintef.no> TO YOU WHO RUNS NEXTSTEP ON A WHITE COMPUTER,! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I run NeXTSTEP on a Compaq Deskpro XE 560 . I have bought a ATI Ultra Pro video card. The videodriver is configured as ATI Ultra Pro. When I reboot the PC, I only see flashing light and the screen is just a mess. But I have no oppurtunity to switch the video driver back to how it was original. The help menu at boot says for boot with deault table type: CONFIG=DEFAULT. And I have done this, but I the boot stops on the way up. ARE THERE ANY COMMANDS TO CHANGE VIDEO DRIVERS AT BOOT ON A PC, FOR NEXTSTEP. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE PLEASE SEND MAIL TO : Gunnar.Aarnes@si.sintef.no
From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: why not buy Gateway2000 (to run NEXTSTEP/Intel) ??? Date: 9 Mar 1994 16:30:53 GMT Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lktjv$3cu@rain.psg.com> References: <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > [This sort of follows up on the thread about general robustness of NS/I.] > > Is NEXTSTEP compatibility a yes/no issue, or are there shades of gray? > > Both the hardware compatibility guide and resellers like Alpine use > phrases like "greatest degree of NEXTSTEP compatibility." What does this > mean? Is there such a thing as slightly compatible, or slightly > incompatible? Or if you get NS/I installed and working on a system, are > you pretty much sure you are set? > > Specifically, if you use all known-NS/I-compatible components [SCSI > controller (DPT or Adaptec), video card (ATI/Miro/etc.), sound card > (PAS), network card (Intel EE), etc.], is the motherboard the only > thing that can screw up NS compatibility? > > I've been watching the NS/I hardware market for a while, and I had > given up on Gateway2000 a long time ago since they don't care about NS, > until Steve Korneich advertised a used Gateway P5-60 Pentium for what > looked like a really cheap initial offer. The reason it looked even > cheaper than it was is that I had been used to looking at DEC/Dell/NEC > prices. [Steve, hope you managed to sell your system.] > > The Gateway Pentium machines now use an Intel PCI motherboard. Steve got > the one he bought in Nov. to work with NS. I'm sure the board has been > through minor revisions since then, but I doubt that it is fundamentally > incompatible now. > > For comparison with DEC (Dell, NEC, etc. are all roughtly similar), as > of a few days ago, but before the new Intel chip systems:: > > Gateway: > P5-60 Pentium system, 16mb ram, Intel PCI mb, (Diamond Viper 2MB) $3295 > (see computer shopper, March) > -$100 to drop CD-ROM, > -430 to drop monitor, > +650 upgrade to 1GB Seagate SCSI HD = $5215 > (comes with Adaptec 1542<something> adaptor) > ----- > $3415 > > DEC: > $3699 for same cpu, 8MB less RAM, only 340MB HD, generic S3-928 video > with only 1MB VRAM ($700 to upgrade to Viper 2MB) > I don't remember exactly, but I think it was over $5000 for a system > similarly equipped to the Gateway, with the only advantages to the > DEC being the on-board NCR PCI SCSI adaptor and known NS compatibility. > > Note, these prices have changed since the new Pentiums came out. > (Someone in the gateway group said $3995 for the 90MHz Pentium, $3295 > for the 66, and $2495 for the 60. Add a few hundred to drop the extras > and get 1GB SCSI. > > So...do these current Intel motherboards work with NS? > > Who (besides Steve Kornreich) has successfully gotten NS/I to run on > Gateway Pentium/PCI machines? > > Who has given up trying to get NS/I running on a Gateway? > > Why not buy Gateway for the motherboard/processor/HD/SCSI-controller/ > and initial-RAM ??? > > [And for resellers like Alpine, Paradigm-Shift, etc.: Why not resell > Gateway? Seems like a win-win situation. As long as the motherboard > works, you can sell much cheaper Pentium and high-end 486 systems then > by reselling DEC, NEC, etc. You are in the perfect position to install > known-NEXTSTEP-compatible peripherals (everything from SCSI controller, > to video card, to sound card, etc.), and it's a big win for Gateway too. > They don't want to deal with NEXTSTEP because it is a small chunk of the > market, but I'm sure they'd love to have even that small chunk become > dedicated to them. This is a no-effort way for them to do that; all they > have to do is sell there systems to resellers. When Gateway changes the > motherboard, that should be the only critical thing that needs to be > re-tested. Disclaimer: I don't really know much about the reselling > business. This is just an idea, but if I owned such a business, I'd be > busily investigating it.] > > -Karl When I purchased the GW2000 P5-60 in November I new I was entering the unknown.. But I figured with a 30 day money back guarentee, I could not loose.. I just purchased the box from GW because I knew the ati axo was not supported and I did not care much for there monitors.. I paid around 2,200.00 for the box kb, mouse dos/windows and 16 megs of ram.. I felt is was a good deal and still is.. I then went a purchased the DPT 2021 SCSI controller, Miro 32s PCI video, 1.4 gig seagate drive, toshiba 3401b cdrom and I tried both the PAS and the MS Sound system. I found the MS Sound system worked much more reliable with NS_FIP. Last, I went for the NANAO 560i-W 17' color monitor.. Plugged it all in, popped in the 3,2 boot disk along with the 3.2 cd-rom, and 40 minutes later I was up and running. No problem what so ever. And to this date, I think my system has crashed 2 or 4 times, mostly when I am ejecting mac formatted floppies.. So I don't know what 100% compatible means, or NeXT certified, but a system with a Intel manufactured motherboard and the right components = a working NS system.. BTW, I am still looking for a buyer... -- Steve Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com NeXTmail OK..
From: mangione@levy.bard.edu (Frank Mangione) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next hardware repairs? Date: 9 Mar 1994 10:38:27 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199403091638.LAA07478@levy.bard.edu> This is likely a faq, but I couldn't find a FAQ at rtfm. Where does one go for Next hardware repairs these days? Thanks. Frank Mangione (mangione@levy.bard.edu)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Communication with EPROM burners? Date: 9 Mar 1994 12:30:40 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2lkfhg$13b@steffi.demon.co.uk> Has anybody written any software that allows a NeXT to send down the binary image to an EPROM burner? I believe most software is based on Intel machines. -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ganek@apollo.hp.com (Daniel E. Ganek) Subject: CAn I use the parallel printer port on my HP LJ IIP? Sender: usenet@apollo.hp.com (Usenet News) Message-ID: <CMEpD5.EvL@apollo.hp.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:48:40 GMT References: <199403091638.LAA07478@levy.bard.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA Printing a fax on my HP printer at 9600 baud is PAINFUL! The answer is probably no but can I use the parallel printer port on my HP LJ IIP? /dan ganek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: leadedge@world.std.com (Leading Edge) Subject: Upgrade to V3.2 Message-ID: <CMEsAA.MtE@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:51:45 GMT I just got finished speaking with someone from NeXT, only to find out that I need a floppy and CD-ROM to install version 3.2. I have only the Magneto-Optical, and HD. I assume I can attach an NEC external CD-ROM to the SCSI port on back, but what kind of floppy does this thing use, and more importantly, where does it attach. I've got version 1.0a now, so I assume that 3.2 is worth all this trouble. Thanks, -Erik Swimm
From: eric@skatter.usask.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Communication with EPROM burners? Date: 9 Mar 1994 18:56:50 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <2ll65i$h8d@tribune.usask.ca> References: <2lkfhg$13b@steffi.demon.co.uk> From article <2lkfhg$13b@steffi.demon.co.uk>, by robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson): > Has anybody written any software that allows a NeXT to send down the > binary image to an EPROM burner? I believe most software is based on > Intel machines. > > -- > "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) > "No, what?" > "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) > (ASCII for text only messages) What kind of `EPROM burner' do you mean? I have put together an application that transfers files to/from and controls an ALLPRO 88XR universal device programmer connected through a serial port. Works on black and white hardware. -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerHouse Article in Business Week Date: 9 Mar 1994 19:19:20 GMT Organization: E&S Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ll7fo$c70@cnn.sim.ES.COM> References: <2lflak$kjr@netnews.upenn.edu> In article kjr@netnews.upenn.edu, cjn@vaal.cpr (Christopher Nagel) writes: > Note, also, however, the announcement (in c.s.n.a) about CCSI (Canon Computer...), which says it will *not* produce PowerPC machines! No, that's not what it said.... The exact quote is that CCSI "has no plans to produce a PowerPC-based machine optimized for NEXTSTEP in 1994". Clearly, they did *not* say they won't produce PowerPC machines. Nor did they make any comments about 1995. Nevin
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Communication Problems with (some) Nexts Date: 9 Mar 1994 14:32:02 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <2llbo2$a6e@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> References: <CME8tB.J2G@animal.inescn.pt> Keywords: Communication, en0, collisions In article <CME8tB.J2G@animal.inescn.pt>, Jose Manuel de Magalhaes Cruz <jcruz@animal.inescn.pt> wrote: >Hello > > We have 6 Nexts in our working room, together with 1 Sun >Sparcstation 2. Every machine got along with each other just fine, as >well as >with the several tens of other machines in our network (192.35.246). > Until another Sun (a Sparserver 10) arrived. > Every next (EXCEPT one), has difficulties communicating with the >newly arrived Sun (approximately 50% of the packets exchanged is lost, >and >collisions are detected). Communications with every other hosts in the >network continues fine, and the new Sun also communicates well with >them. > > The curious point is that, as I said, one of the Nexts has no >problems >talking with the new Sun! > > How about that? > > If anybody has a clue to what migth be causing this strange >behavior, >I sure would appreciate his/her help. > I almost don't have to see the rest of the details, so I haven't copied them just to save bandwidth (though I did scan through to make sure). Anyways, I've seen this problem before, and I suggest that you have a hardware topology problem. You are probably breaking the rules for ethernet, ie: too much distance between two nodes, too many repeaters, not accounting for cable length, or possible a poor connection or high resistance cable, poor connection somewhere, incorrect spacing between transceivers, etc. Even if you have a small network, it's possible to break the rules, and not really have problems until you add another node. A marginal card *could* be the problem -- if you verify you have eliminated everything else, I would start swapping cards around. Actually, the relevant information you need to post is the type of network (10Base[25T] etc.), are you on your own subnet, how are you subnetted to the rest of the corporation, ie. repeater, bridge, router, and if you use fanout boxes instead of transceivers (10Base5 only). That would help narrow down my list above. Good luck. I'd offer to come over and help, but the travel expense would be a killer. :-) -- Randy Kunkee Self Employed 713-870-1334 kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Date: 9 Mar 1994 20:58:39 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2lld9v$t7b@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <1994Mar8.201229.24841@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <1994Mar8.201229.24841@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes: > > Ok, so now that that's out of the way, just *how* exactly does one > go about making use of the DSP? I've not seen any references in > any of the prog manuals on how program with the DSP. Mind you, > I haven't really looked that hard, so I've probably missed something. > But it seems such a waste to have a marvelous DSP chip sitting around > doing nothing. How can I tap into it's processing power from Obj-C > programs? Do I have to learn (ugh) assembly? I know it's related to > snd files sometimes (witness the DSPFFT routines lurking on cs.orst.edu > somewhere). Someone tell me more! :) Info is in the DSPDetails appendix of the developer manual and there are a few examples that come with the MusicKit. I lived off those examples when I did some DSP stuff last summer. You will pretty well have to write in assembler. I looked a bit at the gcc stuff for the 56K and decided I could write my own code faster than mucking about with it. Besides, the author admits that it generates pretty slow code. You'll need the book on the 56K from Motorola. It's part number is DSP56000UM/AD. It cost me $9.40 or so and its nice and thick and nice and red. -- David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: waters@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Waters) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help Needed Date: 9 Mar 1994 16:30:38 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Message-ID: <2lktje$e3c@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Can someone send me a list of greyscale 486 laptops that NSFIP runs on? Also does NSFIP like the Zeos on board adaptec scsi controller? Johnny
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: PAS probs Message-ID: <1994Mar9.180132.9008@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 18:01:32 GMT If anyone is using a ProAudioSpectrum16 or similar board under NeXSTSTEP for Intel -- please give me the port addres, DMA #, & IRQ # that you've got the driver set at. I used the default setting under the NSi driver -- and it sounds fine -- but crashed the system hard. I was then advised to set it at DMA 0, IRQ 10, port 0x530 -- and it does NOT crash, but sounds garbled/static usually. The board works fine in (ugh) Windows and DOS. And no -- the DMA and IRQ are not used by another device. I've got a DPT SCSI board (ISA) and a Wingine VLB videoboard. ANY help appreciated, as I must returrn the board soon if it won't work under NSi (and get the more expensive, less advanced MS SoundBoard Kit). bp =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness = =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness =
From: root@wat2213.ucr.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Vtech/Laser with NS/FIP?? Date: 9 Mar 1994 22:03:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2llh3h$a8c@galaxy.ucr.edu> I got a machine made by Vtech (with 'Laser' as the label on the machine). Has anyone tried to put NS/FIP on one of these machines? If not, what should I look for to get a clue as to whether it will work? I have never noticed discussion of different BIOSs in this group. Should I assume that this is _not_ an issue? - jonathan nagler dept of political science university of california, riverside
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: Re: why not buy Gateway2000 (to run NEXTSTEP/Intel) ??? Date: 9 Mar 1994 22:18:39 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2llhvv$p6t@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: >[This sort of follows up on the thread about general robustness of NS/I.] >Is NEXTSTEP compatibility a yes/no issue, or are there shades of gray? (stuff deleted) >Specifically, if you use all known-NS/I-compatible components [SCSI >controller (DPT or Adaptec), video card (ATI/Miro/etc.), sound card >(PAS), network card (Intel EE), etc.], is the motherboard the only >thing that can screw up NS compatibility? >I've been watching the NS/I hardware market for a while, and I had >given up on Gateway2000 a long time ago since they don't care about NS, >until Steve Korneich advertised a used Gateway P5-60 Pentium for what >looked like a really cheap initial offer. The reason it looked even >cheaper than it was is that I had been used to looking at DEC/Dell/NEC >prices. [Steve, hope you managed to sell your system.] >The Gateway Pentium machines now use an Intel PCI motherboard. Steve got >the one he bought in Nov. to work with NS. I'm sure the board has been >through minor revisions since then, but I doubt that it is fundamentally >incompatible now. >For comparison with DEC (Dell, NEC, etc. are all roughtly similar), as >of a few days ago, but before the new Intel chip systems:: >Gateway: > P5-60 Pentium system, 16mb ram, Intel PCI mb, (Diamond Viper 2MB) $3295 > (see computer shopper, March) > -$100 to drop CD-ROM, > -430 to drop monitor, > +650 upgrade to 1GB Seagate SCSI HD = $5215 > (comes with Adaptec 1542<something> adaptor) > ----- > $3415 As of today (3/9/94) I have two quotes on my desk for Pentium machines from Gateway. Here are the configs... 32 MB DRAM 70ns 1.44 MB 3.5" 500 MB Seagate SCSI 11 ms w/ 256 K cache 16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller PCI Diamond Viper or Matrox MGA Ultimae, both with 2MB VRAM Intel ethernet card 4 16-bit ISA slots, 2 PCI, and 1 PCI/ISA slot DOS 6.2/Windows 3.1 MS Office for Windows A P5-60 60 MHz Pentium processor with above is $4295 delivered. A P5-66 66 MHz Pentium processor with above is $4435 delivered. Looks like a good deal, EXCEPT, NSi 3.2 doesn't support either video card. But, the VL-Viper NSi driver is due out soon, and I am assuming that this driver will not run support the PCI 2.0 Viper referred to above. Is this true? Will the driver for VL-VIper support the PCI-Viper? My salesrep from Next has blown me off on this one. :(....... And, the Matrox MGA cards won't work, not until different cards are manufactured (as pointed out recently by Carl Edman)..... So, what do I do? I could always by the Matrox card and run Windows fast. And, then, when I reboot to run NSi, I'll just switch the card for a ATI 68800 PCI.......:) I would appreciate any input on the above config. Any problem with the Adaptec 1542CF card? I thought it was a 8-bit controller, but the Gateway quote clearly states 16-bit. What about the ISA architecture in general? Seems like all Gateway is doing here is throwing stuff at a ISA board from Intel. Am I correct here? Thanks in advance, ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does DSP chip improve screen graphics rendering? Date: 9 Mar 1994 19:36:55 GMT Organization: the Borg Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ll8gn$97@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <1994Mar8.201229.24841@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <1994Mar8.201229.24841@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes: > Ok, so now that that's out of the way, just *how* exactly does one > go about making use of the DSP? I've not seen any references in > any of the prog manuals on how program with the DSP. Mind you, > I haven't really looked that hard, so I've probably missed something. > But it seems such a waste to have a marvelous DSP chip sitting around > doing nothing. How can I tap into it's processing power from Obj-C > programs? Do I have to learn (ugh) assembly? I know it's related to > snd files sometimes (witness the DSPFFT routines lurking on cs.orst.edu > somewhere). Someone tell me more! :) You need to get the MusicKit to get a nice debugger and polish your skills writing assembly. There are lot's of examples about how to make use of the DSP from within NEXTSTEP programs: Jean Laroche DOS tutorial files are very interesting! There seems to be a gcc for 56k but the code it generates is not efficient... Good luck, Annard -- Give me enough bandwidth and I can transmit the earth. - Annard Brouwer annard@stack.urc.tue.nl (NeXTmail appreciated)
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does there exist GX/Pro internal SCSI driver? Message-ID: <2llicb$n2q@inxs.concert.net> Date: 9 Mar 94 22:25:15 GMT References: <murao.94Mar9134710@blueslab> Distribution: comp Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT In article <murao.94Mar9134710@blueslab> murao@kobe-u.ac.jp writes: > Hi folks, > > I eager for GX/Pro internal SCSI driver. Is there already > available? Kindly, please inform me. > No such animal yet...these machines are also now on allocation which either means they are selling EXTREMELY well or they are getting ready to get rid of them. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail/MIME Mail Welcomed info@paradigm-shift.com Authorized Reseller for: AT&T Global Information Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: What kind of memory does the DSP use? Message-ID: <espritCMF4JJ.Lw2@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 22:16:30 GMT I don't remember this being in the FAQ, so I will ask it here. I got a NeXTstation (1990 vintage) with all of the memory, including the DSP memory, removed. What kind of memory does the DSP need? Thanks. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Voice Fax Modems Date: 10 Mar 1994 00:30:19 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2llpmr$kbp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Which voice/fax/modems have people had the best experience with for NS/Intel? -- Greg
From: Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 9 Mar 1994 18:15:45 -0500 Organization: theo-phys.gwdg.de Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD2@uunet.uu.net> References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> This RFD is supposed to summarize the discussion and give people a last chance to add their $0.02. It's posted as an RFD, because due to discussion the proposal has changed (i.e. the .misc group has been added). PROPOSAL: Reorganize comp.sys.next.hardware and split it into three newsgroups named comp.sys.next.hardware.{misc,i386,m68k}. Technically that's three operations: 1) rename comp.sys.next.hardware to comp.sys.next.hardware.misc 2) create comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 3) create comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k REASON: As NeXTSTEP has started to support multiple hardware architectures, the articles in comp.sys.next.hardware clearly split right now. They are unrelated, but happen to be in the same newsgroup; Things are going to be even worse when the next hardware architectures will be supported. This split will help to make reading hardware articles easier, as related articles are grouped together. People only interested in one hardware architecture, don't have to dig through all articles in order to find those, they are interested in. GROUP NAMING: I strongly suggest we create a naming rule for hardware groups, so someone using some NeXTSTEP computer knows at once, how "his" hardware newsgroup is named. Therefore I choose the rule: comp.sys.next.hardware.`/usr/bin/arch` which is the same as the MACH cpu type (see man 3 arch) I know, this is not ideal, but it's *predictable*. Fancier names could be chosen, but again someone would have to ask for the correct name of his newsgroup, and this discussion would start again and again with every new hardware architecture. I suggest, we add the "fancier" names to the descriptions of the groups. The i386 versus i486 debate should also be addressed there. SCHEDULE: as the first official RFD has been posted on the 7th of February, the CFV will be posted on the 15th of March (if everything works as it should ;-). Cheers, Stephan -- trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
From: behnkedj@melanie.Rose-Hulman.Edu (D. Joshua Behnke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: seeking advice on an intel machine Date: 9 Mar 1994 19:58:19 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Sender: behnkedj@melanie (D. Joshua Behnke) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ll9or$ln2@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I've been looking into purchasing an intel machine to run NS, and would like some feedback about how hard it will be to make it work. I have been reading the info available from NeXTanswers, but it seems that not a whole lot of equipment has been blessed by NeXT, whereas I see posts from people running NS on many different machines. If I just assemble the machine I want, how likely will it be that I can run NS? What are things I should watch out for? What kinds of problems crop up? What systems are people using? And finally, how does performance on white hardware compare to the black hardware (I've been using a turbo color)? Of the machines listed in NeXTanswers as certified, the DELL machine seems most attractive to me. Comments? (DELL Dimension XPS: 66Mhz 486, 16Mb, Adaptec 1542CF, ProAudio Spectrum 16, #9 GXE graphics card - though I'd probably replace it with the miroCrystal card.) I realize these are somewhat open ended, but any help would be appreciated. Please respond to: behnkedj@cs.rose-hulman.edu If the responses warrant, I'll summarize and post the results. Thanx. -Josh Behnke "the secret to good self esteem is to lower you expectations to the point where they're already met." - Hobbes
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: Re: why not buy Gateway2000 (to run NEXTSTEP/Intel) ??? Date: 10 Mar 1994 02:43:26 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2lm1ge$m7h@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> <2llhvv$p6t@news.u.washington.edu> In article <2llhvv$p6t@news.u.washington.edu>, James Bassuk <bassuk@u.washington.edu> wrote: >As of today (3/9/94) I have two quotes on my desk for Pentium machines from >Gateway. Here are the configs... > >32 MB DRAM 70ns >1.44 MB 3.5" >500 MB Seagate SCSI 11 ms w/ 256 K cache >16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller >PCI Diamond Viper or Matrox MGA Ultimae, both with 2MB VRAM >Intel ethernet card >4 16-bit ISA slots, 2 PCI, and 1 PCI/ISA slot >DOS 6.2/Windows 3.1 >MS Office for Windows > >A P5-60 60 MHz Pentium processor with above is $4295 delivered. >A P5-66 66 MHz Pentium processor with above is $4435 delivered. I also called Gateway today (3/9) and the stuff I have doesn't quite mesh with what you have. We should figure this out as soon as possible (tomorrow). Send me more detailed e-mail, or post again. First off, I was told that the P5-60 and the P5-66 are the SAME price! The sales guy I talked to faxed me the price sheets with options for the P5-66 and the P5-90, but not the P5-60, and when I asked for that one is when he told me this. The P5-60 base price used to be $3295, and now that is the base price for the P5-66, with the P5-90 having the base price the P5-66 used to have ($3995). So what he said was that they reduced the price of the 66 to the price of the 60, without changing the price of the 60. So for nothing, you get an extra 6MHz and a write-thru cache (a slightly better cache). According to the stuff I was told and the spec sheet I have the stuff you put down above would be: $3295 base >32 MB DRAM 70ns + $800 >1.44 MB 3.5" >500 MB Seagate SCSI 11 ms w/ 256 K cache + $385 >16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller >PCI Diamond Viper or Matrox MGA Ultimae, both with 2MB VRAM >Intel ethernet card + $105 >4 16-bit ISA slots, 2 PCI, and 1 PCI/ISA slot >DOS 6.2/Windows 3.1 >MS Office for Windows + $175 For a total of: $4760. Not $4295 or $4435. What's up?!? (My price doesn't include shipping, which is $95, and I guess is extra.) Perhaps you meant, without monitor: -430. Without CD-ROM drive: -100. Without sound card: -105. Shipping: +95. Now my total is--------$4220, including shipping, for the P5-66. Again--??? My planned system at the moment is: 32MB (+800) 1GB Seagate SCSI HD (+650, instead of +385) Adaptec card (he didn't tell me which one, is it the CF?) drop video card (-164) and I'll buy a Miro Crystal 32S drop CD-ROM (-100) drop monitor (-430) drop sound card (-105) For a total of------------$3946 (by the prices I was given today, for P5-66) Then I'll buy the Miro 32S video, a NEC or Nanao 17" monitor (or maybe even the new IBM trinitron--where can I find it?), sound card, ethernet card, SCSI CD-ROM. I'm seriously tempted to drop down to the P4D-66 (486-66) becaue it saves $500 or more and then I might afford a 20 or 21" monitor instead, but I'm afraid because I know it is a different motherboard, not made by Intel. (It is PCI though.) >the Gateway quote clearly states 16-bit. What about the ISA architecture >in general? Seems like all Gateway is doing here is throwing stuff >at a ISA board from Intel. Am I correct here? An ISA board? With 3 PCI capable slots? Isn't 3 the most PCI slots of any PCI motherboard at the moment? Does anyone know about the Intel board? Is there anything inferior about it? I'd be surprised.... -Karl
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PowerPC NeXTSTATION? March 7, pg. 28 Info World. Date: 9 Mar 1994 18:48:17 -0800 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <2lm1ph$17a@spock.dis.cccd.edu> I just posted this to mac.hardware by mistake so you all can read my wonderings there if your interested. At any rate, anybody have any details? Is this effort for real and will this keep NS for black from becomming obsolete.NeXTtime looked promising and now with a PCI bus and the PowerPC the possibilities seem much more open. Are they? maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: NS/FIP drivers for the Matrox MGA II -- impossible Message-ID: <1994Mar10.024829.3756@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <CEDMAN.94Mar4134702@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 02:48:29 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Mar4134702@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >Miro has drivers available but performance is probably >sub-optimal as they are just VL-bus cards which were hastily adapted >to the PCI bus. The miro may or may not have suboptimal performance (whatever that is), but I doubt it is due to either VLB or PCI, which have virtually the same performance characteristics for current implementations, at least on a 486. Besides, ALL existing PCI video cards are hastily adapted VLB conversions. True PCI cards are still in the works, as is PCI itself, for that matter. :-) >What does that leave ? How about the SuperMatch Spectrum, Thunder/24, etc.? These cards are rarely mentioned in the magazine reviews because they don't support VGA directly (you need a regular VGA card in addition, or the SuperMatch daughter card). For NEXTSTEP, who cares about VGA except for installation, eh? The SuperMatch cards are 24-bit ONLY. They perform roughly the same as the Matrox cards at 24-bit 1024x768. Give them a call. Maybe they have a developer kit or something. Matrox is their prime competitor, so they may have some interest in supporting an OS that Matrox just can't. Perry P.S. The great irony is that all of the video cards for NEXTSTEP have super duper turbo charged smart graphics chips, WHICH AREN'T EVEN USED!! All NEXTSTEP wants is 3 Meg of dual-ported VRAM on a VLB or PCI bus, a fast RAMDAC, a fast dot clock, and a little glue logic-- that's IT! We're talking $200 worth of parts. Slap on the cheapest possible VGA chip, a little logic to do the PIO to change modes, and you've got the fastest 24-bit NEXTSTEP video card on the planet. -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: burns@nova.bellcore.com (James E. Burns) Subject: Re: Next hardware repairs? In-Reply-To: mangione@levy.bard.edu's message of 9 Mar 1994 10:38:27 -0600 Message-ID: <BURNS.94Mar9211827@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com> Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com Organization: Bell Communication Research References: <199403091638.LAA07478@levy.bard.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 02:18:27 GMT mangione@levy.bard.edu (Frank Mangione) asks: >Where does one go for Next hardware repairs these days? Info posted in Nov by verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket): Bell Atlantic Computer Technology Services NeXT 3rd Party Hardware Maintenance 2323 Industrial Parkway West Hayword, CA 94545 (800) 499-NeXT (510) 732-3000 Fax: (510) 732-3051 jim burns -- James E. Burns burns@nova.bellcore.com Bellcore, NVC-3X114 Off: (908) 758-2819 331 Newman Springs Road Fax: (908) 758-4371 Red Bank, NJ 07701-5699, USA Home: (908) 219-6561
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) Subject: Re: Help! NextDimension troubles. Message-ID: <1994Mar10.045338.7576@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 References: <1994Mar9.082051.6973@cs.cornell.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 04:53:38 GMT In article <1994Mar9.082051.6973@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) writes: > > I recently acquired a NextDimension [through Sam Goldberger at >Spherical. He has been wonderful to do business with... I can't recommend >Sperical highly enough]. In any case, I am having trouble getting the >thing to work. I install it, and it gets all the way up to the end of the >boot cycle. Then it prints these three messages, [extra newlines inserted >for the sake of net.politness] > >Mar 7 20:59:17 localhost mach: > NeXTdimension Board in Slot 2: >Mar 7 20:59:17 localhost mach: > ROM Version 43, Memory Controller step 1, i860 step C.1 >Mar 7 20:59:17 localhost mach: > 32 Mbytes of DRAM installed, NTSC video configured > >and hangs *hard* as in none of the standard ways to kill things work >anymore. Does anyone have any clue what might be wrong? The problem turned out to be that I had my memory in the wrong four receptacles: near the center of the board rather than on the edge. Boy, do I feel like an idiot. Kudos to Sam for debugging the problem from limited information at a distance. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. ---- Bill. -- William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science --- snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be. ===============================================================================
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What kind of memory does the DSP use? Date: 10 Mar 1994 05:16:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lmaep$bap@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <espritCMF4JJ.Lw2@netcom.com> In article <espritCMF4JJ.Lw2@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: >I don't remember this being in the FAQ, so I will ask it here. > >I got a NeXTstation (1990 vintage) with all of the memory, including the >DSP memory, removed. What kind of memory does the DSP need? All NeXT (Motorola) CPU boards has a minimum of 8kwords (of 3 bytes/word or 24kbytes) of DSP RAM directly soldered into the CPU boards. I'm sure it's still there, as you really can't remove that without damaging the board. You could optionally increase the RAM by installing a SIMM that NeXT used to sell (N7013) to 32kwords or 96kbytes. You can't get these any more as new. The part NeXT sold had three 8-bit x 32k SRAM chips (I think, MCM6206CJ35) on a SIMM board plus a 3-to-8 decoder F158A and a few R's and C's. Unless you have specific reasons to need more DSP RAM, you don't have to add anything to the DSP SIMM slot. Just stuff the 040 SIMM sockets, and the board should work. -- Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@tms-gmbh.de Subject: Re: what's the BEST mouse for NS/486? Message-ID: <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:43:43 GMT In article <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) writes: > Hi all, I am currently using a microsoft compatible serial mouse > with NS/486 system. I'm using ATI GUP / VL video card and with the > the setup, the mouse doesn't working very well. I have heard from .. > If you have any good suggestions on selecting a mouse for NS/486 please > share your opinion with me. > > Thanks! > From our expierience get a Bus Mouse or a motherboard with a PS/2 mouse port.! Hans
From: wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what's the BEST mouse for NS/486? Date: 10 Mar 1994 07:28:19 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lmi6j$rg9@email.tuwien.ac.at> References: <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> In article <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) writes: > Hi all, I am currently using a microsoft compatible serial mouse > with NS/486 system. I'm using ATI GUP / VL video card and with the > the setup, the mouse doesn't working very well. I have heard from > some people about how good a Logitec bus mouse would work with > NS/486 system. Is it still true? What about the original Micorsoft > Mouse? The only good thing from that company M*cros*ft is their new mouse. And, as if to compensate for the software, it is _very_ nice and well made. a.w. -- | _ | Alexander Wilkie | | / \ \ / | wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at | | /---\ \ /\ / | Technical University Vienna | | / \ \/ \/ | Austria / Europe | | | (NeXTMail o.k.) |
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (David W. Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory Message-ID: <144200@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 9 Mar 94 22:16:13 GMT References: <143897@hydra.gatech.EDU> <CMDEBy.EKy@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology In article <CMDEBy.EKy@cc.umontreal.ca> kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes: >David W. Rinker (gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU) wrote: > >: OK, I'm not a hardware expert, so he goes: >: does the machine automatically recognize it? I ask becuase I slapped >: in 4 MEG from an intel machine (1 meg simms, 70ns), and the NeXT >: gave me some criptic message. > >In your next cube, you have to have groups of 4 simms that are the same, >and the faster ones have to go into the first slot group (at the edge >of the board) > Yep, that did the trick... I put the fast memory towards the edge of the board, and disabled parity checking (as someone else suggested) and it worked great.. Thanks! BTW... My NeXTDimension card seems to have 8 72 pin simms on it... how can I tell how much memory is on this card, and would upgrading the memory on the ND board improve anything? And, also, there's what appears to be a 64 pin simm socket (empty) on the CPU board... what's this for? Thanks, -- David W Rinker Georgia Tech, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 Co-Op: CSX Transportation. Jax, FL 32202 Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mperry@netcom.com (Michael Perry) Subject: Re: SOLVED: NS + NXFax + ZyXEL Message-ID: <mperryCMFuzw.9Dw@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1994Mar8.233307.11395@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 07:47:54 GMT Most serial ports use line driver chips such as the venerable 1488/1489 pair. Replacing the defective driver will fix the problem. This may be a nuisance as it is probably soldered in. What kind of machine do you have? It may use one of the newer, more integrated parts. Michael Perry mperry@netcom.com schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes: >The DTR line on B was giving -5 volt when off (that's ok), but -0.7 volt when on. >And that should be +5 volt.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mperry@netcom.com (Michael Perry) Subject: Re: What kind of memory does the DSP use? Message-ID: <mperryCMFv9o.9yt@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <espritCMF4JJ.Lw2@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 07:53:48 GMT The DSP socket on the Station is for extra DSP RAM, the system works fine without it. I believe the FAQ describes the DSP RAM, if you want more.
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT keyboard extender??? Date: 10 Mar 1994 10:02:59 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2lmr8j$1ng@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Where can I get a keyboard extender for a NeXT keyboard? Will a IBM PS/2 keyboard extender work? RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and collector of titles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: 2IDE's+1 SCSI-mainly solved Message-ID: <CMG4zr.Dxp@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 11:23:49 GMT Recently I posted a request for help as I had added an internal SCSI drive to an IDE only PC and did not want to boot from the SCSI in NS. This seemed to cause an incredible number of problems. I'd like to thank all those people, andthere were a lot, who helped me with this issue. It's one more reason why using NS is such an enjoyable experience. In any case, the short answer lies in the file fstab, which lives in /etc. This file must be edited in order to tell NS that a SCSI drive has been added ( it would be nice for the OS to do this!). Otherwise, ownership of the drive keeps changing, the drive becomes corrupt, etc... So the original file had /dev/hd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 This deals with the NS IDE. The file as it comes is read only! So I changed it to rw by root ( otherwise if you make a mistake the NeXT will hang during booting and you have to edit the file from the monitor, and it's a pain if you keep the file as read only). For the internal SCSI drive, you must add the line /dev/sd0a /name of drive 4.3 rw,noquota 0 1 The name of the drive is whatever you call it. Note that noauto is not in this line, and must not be. This solved the SCSI problem. I can now create user accounts on the SCSI drive, etc...I am still booting from the IDE drive and the system files are on the IDE. One last issue: I have 2 DOS partitions. I, say par1, is 10megs and has the boot selector(OS-BS 1.35- this gives you a nicer boot selector than NS's, and it lives in the same small space). The other DOS partition, say par2, is the whole of the second IDE. This partition appears to come and go as it pleases. It is 340megs, so I don't know if that's the problem. par1 always gets mounted. par2 may get mounted, but if I log out and in it disappears. So I issued the command mount -p when I was in root and the partitions were all mounted. This will give the correct syntax for the fstab entry. So in fstab I placed /dev/rhd0h /par1 dos filesystem=DOS,fixed,rw 1 2 /dev/rhd1h /par2 dos filesystem=DOS,fixed,rw 1 2 This did not work! Still the same odd behaviour with par2. Finally, I have a CD-ROM (external Apple300) attached to an Adaptec 1542CF. When on, the system would barely function. The most likely problem there is that NS needs a better SCSI cable than does DOS/Windows. This has been reported by others. In any case I really appreciate the time people took to supply me with the solution. I would also urge NeXT to automate the adding of peripherals, so that one need not be a Unix administrator in order to run the nicest system I have ever used. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: News about new drivers? Date: 10 Mar 1994 11:52:25 GMT Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris FRANCE Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ln1lp$6ni@enst.enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We might be acquiring a few White NS machines here for a multimedia platform. I'm looking around for any pointers or even rumours about the future release of drivers by NeXT or by the peripheral manufacturer for: Network Interfacess Sound Cards Video cards (both frame buffers and acquisition hardware) Disk controllers I don't think I forget anything there, did I? Anyway, I've heard that: (1) a SoundBlaster 16 driver is in the works, (2) that Matrox might be doing a driver for NeXTStep for their new 64-bit Weitek graphics controller, etc. All this interests me (and perhaps others on the list), since some of these purchases might not happen until 2-3 months from now (during which time, drivers in development might be released)... So, any volunteers? -Philip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: awt001@acad.drake.edu Subject: NeXT/Intel/OrangePC/Macintosh? Message-ID: <1994Mar10.102832.1@acad.drake.edu> Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:28:32 GMT Hi, I am a new user to NeXT and need a bit of help hardware/software wise: 1. I currently own a Mac and plan to purchase an OrangePC coprocessor card. (486/66) Is this sufficient to run NeXT Step for Intel processors? I would like to achieve the best possible performance... 2. Related to this, how much on-board memory is recommended to run NeXT Step? 3. It supports SVGA graphics up to 1024 x 768 at 256 colors - is this okay? (Or do I need an additional graphics card?) I don't always have access to the NeXT newsgroups so if possible please e-mail responses to me directly at: AWT001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU Any other advice, suggestions, or comments would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Al.
From: lo@silch.in-ulm.de (Lothar Maier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to shut off Synchronous mode for IBM664M1H? Distribution: world Message-ID: <lo.02kg@silch.in-ulm.de> References: <2lfvjf$s2i@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 9 Mar 94 22:08:12 MET Organization: private site In article <2lfvjf$s2i@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Matthias Kloas) writes: > We have a problem with an IBM 2GB hard disk of the above type. We want to > use it with a (black) NeXT that only supports asynchronous transfer (i.e. > scsi-1 commands). Unfortunately the IBM is shipped set up for synchronous > transfers and with no documentation :(. In meinem handbuch ist da bei der 2 und 4GB-Platte nichts erwaehnt. Sollte die Platte jedoch aehnlich meiner 1GB aufgebaut sein, befinden sich auf der Platine 4 echt wirklich winzige Jumper in einem Block und da gibts J1 - Synchrone Uebertragung ! J2 - SCSI Parity J3 - Unit Attention J4 - Reserviert Bei den grossen Jumpern J1 -J3 - SCSI-ID J4 - reserviert (nur 1 Pin) J5 - Auto Spin Up ! J6 - reserviert J7 - Terminierung ein J8 - Led Die mit dem '!' musste ich fuer Amiga.SCSI verbinden. -- Lothar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next From: nils@daisy.syd.de Subject: ATI Ultra Pro 2 PCI NXBench Results ! Message-ID: <1994Mar9.191026.16580@flens.syd.de> Sender: usenet@flens.syd.de Organization: Sydlink e.V. Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 19:10:26 GMT Hi ! I tested the ATI GUP PCI in a J-Bond PCI Board 486 DX2/66: 1120 x 832, 8 Bit Grayscale: 1,5 !!!!! (superb window moving, and Font rendering) 1120 x 832, 16 (12) Bit Color: 0,91 !!!! (Window moving feels OK, the rest is superb) -> Its MUCH better then the EISA Version, I owned befor !!! ( I hated those 'sticky' windows ) Okay, just to let you know !! Moin: Nils P.S. Please post YOUR Benchmarks of interresting Cards/Configurations ! -- -- Nils Heidorn nils@daisy.syd.de Muehlenstrasse 21b 24937 Flensburg 0461 / 55049 ( am Wochenende 04674 / 1477 )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nils@daisy.syd.de Subject: Serial Mouse desease -> Whhhhhyyyy ? Message-ID: <1994Mar9.192201.16688@flens.syd.de> Sender: usenet@flens.syd.de Organization: Sydlink e.V. Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 19:22:01 GMT Hi again ! I'm asking myself again and again, why NeXTStep isn't able to support smooth Mouse Movements with a NORMAL serial mouse, like ANY other OS does ??? ( X-Windoze, MS-Windoze, Windoze NT, OS/2, ....) I tested a Bus Mouse too, and it felt smooth, like it feels under any other OS with my (very good) Serial Mouse. [Flame on] So, whats the reason why: The sick serial drivers, contracts with the bus-mouse industry, structural kernel problems, or are they just not able to do, what all the others did ???? [Flame off] Thank you for explanations/solutions ! Moin: Nils -- -- Nils Heidorn nils@daisy.syd.de Muehlenstrasse 21b 24937 Flensburg 0461 / 55049 ( am Wochenende 04674 / 1477 )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <kroll@walnut.SFSU.EDU> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 08:37:10 PST From: kroll@walnut.SFSU.EDU (Lawrence Kroll) Message-ID: <9403101637.AA01855@kumquat.SFSU.EDU> Subject: Private Eye I'm looking for the company that made a portable TV device one wears on one's head, affording a virtual screen. I think it was a PC device. Has anyone tried this on a NeXT?
From: byrd@nachste.star.harc.edu (Marc J. Byrd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Printing from PC, Windows Date: 10 Mar 1994 19:43:24 GMT Organization: Houston Advanced Research Center Message-ID: <2lnt8s$lp7@spectre.star.harc.edu> Hi all, I found some spiffy software to allow Windows to print directly to a remote BSD lpd printer (winlpr on ftp.cica.indiana.edu). One does however need a windows printer driver to make this work, therefore I was looking for such a driver for the NeXT laserprinter (400 dpi). I tried the standard postscript driver without luck. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks, Marc -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($AI(&%L;"Q<"EP* M22!F;W5N9"!S;VUE('-P:69F>2!S;V9T=V%R92!T;R!A;&QO=R!7:6YD;W=S M('1O('!R:6YT(&1I<F5C=&QY7`IT;R!A(')E;6]T92!"4T0@;'!D('!R:6YT M97(@*'=I;FQP<B!O;B!F='`N8VEC82YI;F1I86YA+F5D=2DN("!<"D]N92!D M;V5S(&AO=V5V97(@;F5E9"!A('=I;F1O=W,@<')I;G1E<B!D<FEV97(@=&\@ M;6%K92!T:&ES('=O<FLL(%P*=&AE<F5F;W)E($D@=V%S(&QO;VMI;F<@9F]R M7`IS=6-H(&$@9')I=F5R(&9O<B!T:&4@3F585"!L87-E<G!R:6YT97(@*#0P M,"!D<&DI+B`@22!T<FEE9%P*=&AE('-T86YD87)D('!O<W1S8W)I<'0@9')I M=F5R('=I=&AO=70@;'5C:RY<"EP*06YY;VYE(&AA=F4@97AP97)I96YC92!W C:71H('1H:7,_7`I<"E1H86YK<RQ<"EP*7`I-87)C7`H*?0IP `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) Subject: Help With HP LaserJet 4M Printer Message-ID: <1994Mar10.213047.16864@yuma> Date: 10 Mar 94 21:30:47 GMT Keywords: printer hp laserjet 4m hi my group is investigating the hp laserjet 4m printer. in old NeXTanswer listings, there are references to tweaking the cables on hp printers. i'm wondering if anyone is successfully using this printer on black hardware and if so, what kind of cable did you get and from whom? thanks kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Douglas B. Moore Subject: more Byte Benchmark results, ND Turbo Message-ID: <CMGyy1.M6s@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: World Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:11:46 GMT In case anyone is still interested in these... From a ND Turbo, 32/32/886 Boot Drive---Toshiba MK-438FB, 1024 byte sectors swapdisk---Micropolis 1684, 512 byte sectors (/tmp mounted here) I ran this from "console". =============================================================== BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) System -- obi-wan Start Benchmark Run: Thu Mar 10 14:26:39 GMT-0600 1994 1 interactive users. Dhrystone 2 without register variables 35132.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Dhrystone 2 using register variables 35134.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 61737.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = register) 4008.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = short) 4707.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = int) 4007.6 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = long) 4008.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = float) 3666.5 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = double) 3697.0 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) System Call Overhead Test 11811.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe Throughput Test 3819.0 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1674.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Process Creation Test 47.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Execl Throughput Test 36.3 lps (9 secs, 6 samples) File Read (10 seconds) 23468.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Write (10 seconds) 800.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (10 seconds) 627.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Read (30 seconds) 24239.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Write (30 seconds) 666.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (30 seconds) 550.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) C Compiler Test 36.3 lpm (62 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 44.2 lpm (62 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 24.3 lpm (62 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 12.5 lpm (62 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 5.8 lpm (62 secs, 3 samples) Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 1143.5 lpm (62 secs, 6 samples) Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 443.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) /doug/Files/Misc/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/18291.dat INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 3697.0 1.4 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 4008.4 1.4 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 4008.6 1.4 C Compiler Test 24.1 36.3 1.5 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 35132.4 1.5 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 36.3 1.5 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 550.0 1.1 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 24239.0 1.3 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 666.0 1.1 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 1674.2 1.5 Process Creation Test 34.0 47.3 1.4 Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 443.2 1.4 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 5.8 1.5 ========= SUM of 13 items 17.9 AVERAGE 1.4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: joker!jeff (Jean-Francois Klein) Subject: NEC Color Versa Driver Message-ID: <1994Mar10.212958.10176@joker.fdn.org> Sender: jeff@joker.fdn.org Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:29:58 GMT Guys, I know someone else just asked about this recently, but I was out on break and missed the response. Does anyone know where to get a color display driver for an NEC Versa??? I really need this right away! Thanks.... Jef -- Jean-Francois Klein 21, rue de l'Aube Phone: (+33) 44 84 48 62 75017 PARIS Email: jeff@joker.fdn.org FRANCE NeXT mail accepted
From: Jon Dennis <jon@cse.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2 mono monitors from one Cube? Date: 11 Mar 1994 01:06:58 GMT Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <2log7j$8bd@news.mic.ucla.edu> I was wondering what people think about this question. I have an original Cube that was upgraded to an 040 25mhz. Some time ago I got to feeling daring so I put the old 030 board in along with the 040. I found the recipe to do this here on this news group. After some work I got it to work. Now I am wondering if the power supply is strong enough to handle two mono monitors. So this is my question: Can I safely run two (2) mono monitors and keyboards off a Cube's power supply? Please reply to me rad@cse.ucla.edu and I will summarize and repost. Thank you in advance. Robert Dennis Center for the Study of Evaluation UCLA rad@cse.ucla.edu
From: somayaji@mit.edu (Anil Somayaji) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI wait-state bug? Date: 11 Mar 1994 01:38:49 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2loi39$eua@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Keywords: ATI Has anybody heard of a wait-state bug in older ATI cards? Specifically, after buying my NS/I system over the summer, I vaguely remember hearing that ATI Ultra Pro's (at least ones with "older ROM's") generated unneeded wait-states when data was transferred directly to the ATI's linear buffer. As a result, operations such as window-dragging are not as smooth as they should be. I've noticed on my system that I can easily see the repainting done when I drag windows of any appreciable size on my system, which has an ATI Ultra Pro, 2 Megs, VESA. Should this be happening? If it is a bug in my card, can I get it fixed without buying a new one? I've lived with this for a while now, so it really isn't a big deal; however, it would be cool if windows on my Intel box would move around as smoothly as they do on black hardware. Note that this "bug" may just be a figment of my imagination - but hopefully somebody else knows the real story, if there is one. Thanks! --Anil Somayaji somayaji@mit.edu P.S. Also - has anybody heard anything about a NS/I driver for Colorado Jumbo 250 tape drives, or any other tape drive that is controlled through the floppy controller? I'm almost certain that one does not exist, and I doubt that anyone is working on one. But it would be nice...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: RECOMMENDED: G.E.C. for Pentium & 486 NEXTSTEP! Message-ID: <1994Mar11.032929.9983@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 03:29:29 GMT I'm planning on writing a long-winded report of my experience shopping for and purchasing a Pentium for NEXTSTEP. Until then, here's an executive summary. If you are looking to buy a 486 or Pentium for NEXTSTEP, consider G.E.C. I had an excellent experience with them. They had everything that I wanted, and for a competitive price. My configuration (I'm still collecting benchmarks on it, stay tuned): Pentium/60 "Oasis" Super P5VESA motherboard, 512K cache, 3 VLB/8 ISA 32 Meg RAM, 2 x 4 x 36-bit (72-pin SIMMs) DPT 2021/95 SCSI-II Host Based Adapter 1.7 Gig Micropolis 2217 Fast SCSI-II hard disk ATI GUP 2 Meg VRAM VLB Rev. 6 graphics adapter 1 parallel, 2 serial 16650 UART fast I/O card 2 floppies, keyboard, serial mouse, mid-tower case Viewsonic 17 monitor =============================================== TOTAL: approx. $6300, your mileage may vary Sounds pricey, but for the Jan/Feb '94 timeframe of my shopping quest, that price was only $200 above the rock-bottom discounter price that I was able to find, and I scrounged! All of that RAM and disk and monitor add up. Factoring out all the extras, you should look to spend around $2000 for the bare motherboard and Pentium chip, and count on a steady decline in price until the P54C comes out. Total system prices will drop even more rapidly: expect to pay $1500 to $2000 less in sixth months, barring further explosions of resin factories or Clinton trade-war sanctions. Of course, Pentium ISA VLB machines are necessarily stop-gap solutions. EISA VLB is practically non-existant now. I expect all Pentiums to be PCI based by the end of the year. If you are interested, give G.E.C. a call and ask for their price list. Talk to John or Andrew, both of whom are NEXTSTEP knowledgeble. Like the ad in NEXTWORLD says, they know way more about NEXTSTEP than your average mail order PC vendor. It felt great giving my hard earned dollars to an outfit that's dedicated to NEXTSTEP. One of my co-workers bought a 486 from G.E.C. and had a good (though not perfect) experience. My experience wasn't perfect either, but the problems were minor and par for the course for mail order. I've included the state below, so you know whether you have to pay sales tax (it's 8.75% in CA for me, a major cost concern!). Vendor State Contact E-Mail/Phone ================================================================ G.E.C AZ John, Andrew 1-800-486-1000 If you talk to Andrew, mention my name. I promised I'd share the good news of my experience, and I want them to know that I'm keeping my promise. Though I ended up going with G.E.C., I encountered several good vendors during my shopping quest, and they deserve your consideration. They all were great to work with, and might have a competitive deal for your specific needs: Vendor State Contact E-Mail/Phone ================================================================ Alpine (by Lexar) CO Kris kris@alpine.com Pars International CA Macy 1-800-947-4742 eCesys AA Bob 1-800-732-3797 HiQ Systems CA Linda 1-800-827-5836 Profile Systems NV Ed 1-800-786-9950 The last two are NOT familiar with NEXTSTEP (although a technician at HiQ claims to have installed a few systems for customers). However, they have good Pentium systems, and may be willing to give you a satisfaction guarantee if you have trouble getting NEXTSTEP to work on their system. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC Color Versa Driver Date: 11 Mar 1994 03:55:58 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2loq4e$k2n@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Mar10.212958.10176@joker.fdn.org> In article <1994Mar10.212958.10176@joker.fdn.org> joker!jeff (Jean-Francois Klein) writes: > Guys, > > I know someone else just asked about this recently, but I was out on break > and missed the response. Does anyone know where to get a color display > driver for an NEC Versa??? I really need this right away! > I believe that Pencom is working on that driver Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. (919) 682-8553 [Voice] A NeXT Object Channel Member (919) 682-1126 [Fax] NeXTMail/MIME Mail Welcomed info@paradigm-shift.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: CAUTION: Bulldog Computer Products Message-ID: <1994Mar11.040247.11587@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1994Mar11.032929.9983@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 04:02:47 GMT Consider this a consumer caution, though not an outright disrecommendation. I ultimately got satisfaction in the end, but only after an unpleasant experience. I'll just relate the facts, and you decide for yourself. I wanted a CD-ROM drive and a modem. I called my usual reliable mail-order vendors (Insight, USA Flex, CDW), but none of them had both of the items I wanted in stock. I was in a hurry to get this stuff to help me with setting up a brand new PC that I had just bought, so I didn't want to wait for a back-order. Remember that I wanted my stuff immediately -- it bears on the rest of the tale. I skimmed Computer Shopper and came up with Bulldog Computer Products of Georgia. They had excellent low prices. Given the two page front-of-the-Shopper spread, and the issue to issue consistency for all the issues I checked, I figured they were reliable. So I called to get a quote. They had my items in stock, and for the lowest prices I had found. So I get ready to make my order. I start to notice that the salesperson doesn't seem to be paying attention. This should have set off an alarm bell first thing, but I figured I'd have her double-check everything to be safe. As we went along, the impression got stronger and stronger, to the point were it was clear that her number one priority was to get me the heck off the phone. Since I wanted the equipment ASAP, I paid the extra charge for overnight shipping with Saturday delivery (this was Thursday, the order couldn't go out until Friday). I asked at least three times that she make sure that my order was shipped Friday, overnight, with Saturday delivery. With obvious impatience, the salesperson complied with my double checks. The next morning (Friday), the shipping department at Bulldog leaves a phone message to "Phillip Caro" about a problem with my order. Note that my name is Perry. I call back, and find out that my VISA card verification didn't go through. I suggest that it might have something to do with them getting my name wrong. This, after I had the salesperson read all of the info back to me! I'm pretty angry now, and completely amazed at the level of incompetence there. So I get the name thing straightened out, and once again, verify that my order is going out that day, overnight, with Saturday delivery. The reply: "Uh huh." Well, you probably guessed what happened. I sat around all day Saturday, and it never showed up. I take partial blame for not calling Bulldog back Friday night to make sure the order went out, and for failing to extract a UPS tracking number from them. I try calling Saturday, but "Sorry sir, the shipping department is closed, and I don't have that information in my computer." Grrrr. Monday morning, I'm pretty steamed. I call the shipping department and ask them why my shipment, which I had paid extra for, hadn't showed up. Things finally start to improve. The woman I spoke to in the shipping department (the same one that called about the VISA problem, not the salesperson) was genuinely concerned, helpful, and eager to put things right. After some checking, it appears that the guy who boxed up my order failed to put "Saturday Delivery" tape labels on the box, EVEN THOUGH both the invoice and the box itself had yellow tags and big bold print saying "SATURDAY DELIVERY" (I know this since I got a copy of the invoice -- though the yellow tags I'm taking on faith). Finally, without my having to ask for it (a key point), she offered to credit me the difference for the overnight/Saturday delivery, vs. two-day, which is what I ended up getting when the box arrived later Monday. If I had had to ask for the credit, this would have been a strong disrecommendation, rather than just a caution. I didn't get the equipment when I wanted it, but at least I didn't have to pay for their mistake. So there's my sad story with a somewhat happy ending. Make of it what you will. Oh, the CD-ROM and modem work fine, and I *did* get a very good price. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: UNIX-like keyboards for PCs? Date: 11 Mar 1994 08:13:50 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2lp97u$7r2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Hello netters! Anybody find a source of good keyboards for PCs that do NOT have the IBM Selectric layout (I think..)? I really like to have the ESC key right next to the 1 key and the CONTROL key next to the A rather than the Caps Lock next to the A. All my trips to major computer places in the San Jose CA area have come up empty. Oh, I tried remapping the keys, but the Caps lock thing is apparently done in hardware, so it's always a toggle button. :( Any way to get an ADB or original NeXT keyboard converted to a PS/2 connector? I miss having two command and alt keys.... -- Alvin Jee e-mail: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC Color Versa Driver Date: 11 Mar 1994 05:32:56 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403111134.AA11768@dcs.shef.ac.uk> > I know someone else just asked about this recently, but > I was out on break and missed the response. Does anyone > know where to get a color display driver for an NEC > Versa??? I really need this right away! > Je crois que Talus en a de'veloppe', mais je ne sais pas si on peut l'acheter, malheureusement :-( On m'a dit qu'il y avait un <<de'saccord>> entre Talus et NeXT. Vous pouvez e'crire a` Steve Sarich: steve@talus.com ou peut-e^tre steve@talus.msk.su ou me^me Paul Vais... Paul_Vais@NeXT.com Amusez-vous! mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phil@hp9000.vis.com (Phil Romine) Subject: Re: NS/FIP drivers for the Matrox MGA II -- impossible In-Reply-To: caro@adobe.com's message of Thu, 10 Mar 1994 02:48:29 GMT Message-ID: <PHIL.94Mar11091303@hp9000.vis.com> Sender: usenet@all.vis.com References: <CEDMAN.94Mar4134702@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1994Mar10.024829.3756@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:13:03 GMT I believe the original premise of this discussion, that you can only write drivers for video cards which can linearly map their entire frame into memory, is false. NeXT, for example, now provides an abstract driver class (IOSVGADisplay) for SVGA displays (SVGAs are not frame buffer displays). Can't one write any display driver by subclassing IODisplay directly? Of course it, writing an MGA driver by subclassing IODisplay might be more involved than writing a specific frame buffer driver by subclassing IOFrameBufferDisplay, but it can still be done, right? By the way, does anyone have an e-mail address for a support person at Matrox? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Romine, promine@vis.com, Voice: 617/859-1275, FAX: 617/536-6647 Vicorp Interactive Systems, 399 Boylston St, Boston, MA 02116, USA
From: gallatin@serov.isds.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Help] 68040 NeXT to Apple LW Select 310 printer connection Date: 11 Mar 1994 15:26:49 GMT Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lq2jp$a14@news.duke.edu> Originator: gallatin@serov.isds.duke.edu [I want to preface this by saying I'm a DEC Ultrix/OSF/1 admin, and know nothing about Nexts, this is the first one I've ever seen .. the lack of normal printcap entries really confuses me..] I need to connect an 68040 Next Cube to an Apple LaserWriter Select 310 printer. The printer has an 8-pin LocalTalk (RS-422?) port, as well as a parallel port, and I'm trying to connect it to serial port b on the Next. I'm using what I think is a straight through serial cable. The next is running NS 3.1 I have physically connected the printer, and used the gui based tool to set up the printer (9600 baud, port b, tried both handshaking and no handshaking). The correct PPD file has been installed. Nothing at all has printed.. the light on the printer doesn't even flash. The closest that I have been able to come is to make the printer idle light go off by taking an item from the queue and cat'ing directly into the /dev/ttyb port. Nothing printed, but the light stayed off for a while.. Any suggestions would be welcome, Thanks.. Drew
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From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial Mouse desease -> Whhhhhyyyy ? Date: 11 Mar 1994 11:00:58 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <2lq84a$bjh@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> References: <1994Mar9.192201.16688@flens.syd.de> In article <1994Mar9.192201.16688@flens.syd.de>, <nils@daisy.syd.de> wrote: >Hi again ! > >I'm asking myself again and again, why NeXTStep >isn't able to support smooth Mouse Movements with a >NORMAL serial mouse, like ANY other OS does ??? >( X-Windoze, MS-Windoze, Windoze NT, OS/2, ....) > >I tested a Bus Mouse too, and it felt smooth, like it feels >under any other OS with my (very good) Serial Mouse. > >[Flame on] >So, whats the reason why: The sick serial drivers, contracts with >the bus-mouse industry, structural kernel problems, >or are they just not able to do, what all the others did ???? >[Flame off] > >Thank you for explanations/solutions ! > >Moin: Nils > >-- >-- > Nils Heidorn nils@daisy.syd.de > Muehlenstrasse 21b > 24937 Flensburg > 0461 / 55049 ( am Wochenende 04674 / 1477 ) I would suspect (relatively) high interrupt latency in the serial driver I loose characters if I try to run at 19200 on my modem. This should be solvable. I used to run 386bsd 0.1 with patch kit 0.2.4. The plain vanilla had the same problem. But some brilliant folks took the time to work on it, and with all of their patches installed (which were included in the patch kit), I could run the interface to my Telebit Worldblazer at 38400, and not loose any characters, while at the same time run something like 'find / -print > /dev/null' in another X-window. (And this was with a non-FIFO.) Another thing I wonder, as an aside, is wheter or not the serial driver recognizes FIFOs, ie. 16550A or whatever. My 3.1 eval kit does not seem to have any driver examples to check. Anybody have any idea? -- Randy Kunkee Houston, TX 713-870-1334 kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) Subject: NeXT Mouse rollers Message-ID: <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 18:42:08 GMT What are the rollers in a NeXT mouse supposed to look like? The problem I have is that the two fat rollers look like metal with a thin strip of gunge in the middle. This strip is very firmly stuck on, and I'm not sure whether it's really gunge or whether it's something that's supposed to be there---presumably all accross the roller. I'm afraid to remove it, since if it's *supposed* to be there, I'm likely only to make my mouse's stickiness worse. --- Bill. -- William E. Aitken | Formal verification is the email: Bill.Aitken@cornell.edu | future of computer science --- snail: 5910 S. Atlanta Pl, Tulsa OK 74105 | Always has been, always will be. ===============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: RECOMMENDED: G.E.C. for Pentium & 486 NEXTSTEP! Message-ID: <1994Mar11.191225.19236@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1994Mar11.032929.9983@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:12:25 GMT CORRECTIONS: In article <1994Mar11.032929.9983@adobe.com> caro@mv.us.adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: >Vendor State Contact E-Mail/Phone >================================================================ >Alpine (by Lexar) CO Kris kris@alpine.com >Pars International CA Macy 1-800-947-4742 >eCesys AA Bob 1-800-732-3797 Make that: Vendor State Contact E-Mail/Phone ================================================================ Alpine (by Lexar) UT Kris kris@alpine.com Pars International CA Macy 1-800-947-4742 eCesys AK Bob 1-800-732-3797 Alpine is Alpine Computing MicroAge, reviewed in the February NEXTWORLD. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: awt001@acad.drake.edu Subject: NeXT Monitor To Macintosh Quadra? Message-ID: <1994Mar11.134523.1@acad.drake.edu> Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:45:23 GMT Hi: This is a question for all you NeXT hardware techies who are familiar with the Macintosh: Is it possible to connect a NeXT monitor (MegaPixel Color) to a Quadra 700? I'm pretty certain that some kind of a video-card would be necessary; does anyone happen to know of one that might work? (ie: What would be required of such a card?) I'm also wondering at the possiblity of some third-party adapter that might make this possible. Any ideas? Answers/comments/advice certainly welcome and greatly appreciated. If possible, please e-mail me directly at: AWT001@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU as I can't always get into this newsgroup. Thanks! Albert Tan Drake University Graphics/Industrial Design ================================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org> Subject: Room Needed For CeBIT! Message-ID: <1994Mar11.190406.12422@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:04:06 GMT Reply-To: ed@joker.fdn.org Distribution: world I am posting this for a S.Sarich whose Usenet access is down : As usual I've waited until the last possible moment and, surprise, surprise, I can't find a room for CeBIT. At this stage I'm not too particular and I'd even be happy to share a place, sleep on the couch...whatever. Money is not an issue (well...within reason of course :-) If you can help, drop me a line right away at: steve@talus.msk.su Steve Sarich III President Talus Imaging Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org GC/O d-(++) p(+) c++ l(!) u+(++) e+(*) m+(---) s+/+ n+ h- f++ g- w+ t+ r y+(*) "In the long run, we are all dead". JM Keynes
From: pitakc@ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any soundcard with Q-sound technology supported ? Date: 11 Mar 1994 12:01:34 -0800 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2lqimu$cp7@rhodamine.ee.pdx.edu> Keywords: Q-sound, soundcard Is there a plan to support a soundcard with Q-sound technology within NeXSTEP ? Is the Q-sound soundcard still a vaporware ? Any info is appreciated. Sincerely, Pitak
From: bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 11 Mar 1994 21:07:03 GMT Organization: FXnet, Internet Services Provider (info@fx.net). Message-ID: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> Newer Technology has just released a 68040 accelerator for Mac Quadras. Why is this interesting to NeXT owners? Because this 50mhz 68040 accelerator sits in the 68040 socket and only the 68040 socket. It is not a Nubus or PDS card like most Mac accelerators are. This means there is a chance that it would work in a NeXT. Has anyone tried it? I just got a fax on the dimensions of the card, and it looks like it might fit. The dimensions are: 4.65" x 2.2" x 1" tall. One might have to remove the floppy drive and stick it outside the case of a station. I don't have a cube handy to see if there's enough room there. More on the card: it goes for around $1100 and has a 30day money back guarantee. A 50mhz 68040 should SPEC somewhere in the low 20's. They do overrun a 40mhz 68040 since no 50mhz 68040's are available. I saw an April Macworld write up on the product, and talked to the tech support people. Newer Technology's phone number is 316-685-4904. Why not just buy white? Because FrameMaker, Improv, et al don't run on white hardware (yet). Also, it would be quite an investment going from a B&W station - $1100 isn't that much in comparison. Personally, I haven't decided if it's worth the money (hence, this post instead of a success/failure story) Please post any findings! -- Bill Chin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dexter@lclark.edu (Michael Dexter) Subject: Black Hardware Acceleration? Message-ID: <1994Mar11.223118.23007@lclark.edu> Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 22:31:18 GMT Hello, might anyone know if any of NeXT's 040 based hardware, many of which operate at 25mhz, can be accelerated with faster chips or crystals? Word has it that the NeXT Nitro (code name) was a 40mhz 040 that never made it to production. Is esisting bus architecture ready for anything faster? Thanks, Michael Dexter dexter@lclark.edu -- Michael. dexter@lclark.edu _________________________________________________________ Michael J. Dexter PDX Office: (503) 768-8959
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Swap Disk From: tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano) Distribution: world Message-ID: <1.5053.2588.0N27BFAA@satalink.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 94 15:53:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 I'd be grateful for some clarification on how to add a small (80mb) SCSI swap disk to NS/Intel 3.2 with two IDE drives, and a CD ROM already installed as SCSI target 0. The documentation seems to contain a contradiction with respect to the SCSI target setting. The BUILDING A SWAP DISK section in the online "Attaching Peripherals" documentation states that one should follow the procedures in the section on BUILDING A BOOTABLE DISK. That section, in turn, states that the disk should be initialized as an ADDITIONAL SCSI DISK. That section recommends a SCSI ID greater than 1 for the disk. However, the section on BUILDING A BOOTABLE DISK stated that the drive should be set at SCSI target 0. The dangers of multiple inheritance? Never having done this before, and being fairly new to SCSI, I'm worried that I'm going to destroy my system with a false move here. The seeming contradiction in the documentation probably stems from the fact that the documentation is a holdover from black-only days and assumes there is already a bootable SCSI disk installed, which there is not (at least for now). If the swap disk is my _only_ SCSI drive, apart from the CD-ROM, what are the recommended SCSI settings? Would these settings have to change if I later wanted to add another SCSI drive for applications? Thanks in advance. Tim Romano TEL: (610) 543-2222 Swarthmore Pennsylvania EMAIL: tim.romano@satalink.com --- ~ CmpQwk #UNREG~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2 IDE's, 1 SCSI- HOW??? From: tim.romano@satalink.com (Tim Romano) Distribution: world Message-ID: <1.5063.2588.0N27BFAB@satalink.com> References: <CM9FKL.E8F@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 08:30:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 In reply to message sent at 13:49 on 03-06-94 Subject: 2 IDE's, 1 SCSI- HOW??? Message-ID: <CM9FKL.E8F@utstat.toronto.edu> From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) PMc> I recently added a 1gig SCSI drive PMc> and I've had nothing but hassles. [...] PMc> I am unable to create any user accounts on the drive! PMc> If I do then they lose their ownership and group identities. PMc> Is there a trick here? Philip, I don't know beans about SCSI or NeXTstep or UNIX, and have my own questions about adding a SCSI swap drive. But you might check out the Attaching Peripherals document in the Library which is accessible when you are logged in as root. Your problem with user accounts may have something to do with the "explicit mounting" of the drive. Did you do that? Here's what the doc says will happen with a drive that is NOT explicitly mounted: From now on, this disk will automatically be mounted whenever a user logs in. When a disk is mounted like this, all files on the disk are owned by the current user and are only available when someone is logged in (the files can't, for example, be exported to the network) ... you might look at the section on Making a Mount Entry for a Hard Disk. Tim Romano TEL: (610) 543-2222 Swarthmore Pennsylvania EMAIL: tim.romano@satalink.com --- ~ CmpQwk #UNREG~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com Subject: Re: Be Cautious of Bell Atlantic Message-ID: <1994Mar11.151751.3135@afs.com> Sender: mutz@afs.com References: <2lgl54$equ@inxs.concert.net> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 15:17:51 GMT I had a MegaPixel monitor shipped to them with a scan rate problem that was causing it to not display. They fixed the problem for $400 + shipping. $400 is their quoted min. charge for electrical problems. I received the monitor about 2 weeks later. It now has ghosting problems in the corners (gun misalignment?). Bell said that it must have been damaged during shipping. Lucky for me, I used their shipping company so they have to file the claim. Now here are my options: * receive a replacement and send back my monitor - free * send back my monitor and get it fixed - free * receive a replacement and send back my monitor to get fixed. - I have to pay shipping. (~$160) I realy can't afford to be without a monitor at home for another 2 weeks. Should I trust a replacement monitor and save the 160, or should I get my bad boy repaired? -- Gregory L. Mutzel, 215-653-0911 Anderson Financial Systems, Inc. email: Gregory_Mutzel@afs.com [NeXTmail Appreciated]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Why not just run white (Was: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black) Message-ID: <espritCMJ1MG.I5J@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 01:03:50 GMT In article <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) writes: >Why not just buy white? Because PCs are evil. I am waiting for the HP and the SPARC versions of NS before I even consider giving up my black hardware. Sorry, but you hit a nerve there. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: R U using an Altex modem cable with your Cube? Date: 12 Mar 1994 01:27:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lr5qh$pet@agate.berkeley.edu> I just bought a cable from Altex Electronics which doesn't work. They think it's my modem. If anyone out there is using a modem cable purchased through this Texas company successfully, could you mail me? I'd like to know what brand of modem you are using--especially if it's a "Complete PC" Turbo (featured in Consumer reports) Thanks in advance for any responses. Oh--I have a 25 mghz Cube. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer) Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse rollers Message-ID: <CMJ3tM.H2F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington References: <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 01:51:20 GMT William E. Aitken (aitken@cs.cornell.edu) wrote: : What are the rollers in a NeXT mouse supposed to look like? The : problem I have is that the two fat rollers look like metal with a thin strip of : gunge in the middle. This strip is very firmly stuck on, and I'm not sure : whether it's really gunge ... If it's the same stuff on _my_ mouse rollers, it's gunge. There are two metal rollers (at 3:00 and 6:00) and a plastic one (at ~10:30). My plastic roller gets gunged up (should be white) with a strip of cohesive, slightly tacky, dark grey/black rubber. (It wasn't like that when new.) When my mouse gets sticky, I pull off the gunge with tweezers, then wipe all three rollers with rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip. Then all is well. -- Will ________________________________________________________________________ \\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/\\/ Will Fischer In the old time the facts of Nature were beautiful in themselves and Gradual Student needed not the rouge of speculation Department of Biology to quicken their charm, but that was Indiana University long ago, before modern science Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA was born. wfischer@indiana.edu -- William Bateson, 1893
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flash!jon@myxa.com Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Message-ID: <CMJ29G.G3@dsinc!flash> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 01:17:39 GMT In article <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) writes: > Why not just buy white? Because FrameMaker, Improv, et al > don't run on white hardware (yet). Also, it would be quite > an investment going from a B&W station - $1100 isn't that > much in comparison. Personally, I haven't decided if it's > worth the money (hence, this post instead of a success/failure story) > Very interesting. I assume it's independently clocked? I doubt it would fit in a stock Cube. My RAM SIMMS scrape the center column, and the 040's heat sink almost does. However, if the backplane were etched to allow multiple motherboards, it would fit into the slot on the other side of the center column. The only depressing thing about this is that the price may not drop much. Since Motorola may not be putting much more work into accelerating the 040, there won't be new, faster 040's to push the price down. About the only thing to drop the price will be market saturation. (Perhaps PPC boards will compete, but only with models that can't use PPC upgrade boards.) -- Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critical" Apps
From: asharp@oberon.Corp.Sun.COM (Andrew Sharp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Getting Sony CDU 561 Dbl spd CD to work Date: 11 Mar 1994 04:01:47 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2loqfc$bgl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> I have a Sony CDU 561 dbl speed cd-rom drive on my cube, and I have two major problems with it that I wish I could solve. The first is that the transfer rate is abismal, when it should be blazing! I recently read about 450 MB of data off a CD and onto one of my hard drives. Total aggregate throughput: a whopping 12.5 kbytes/sec! That's not a typo! And that was the fastest way to do the copy (using two tar processes). My SLIP line will xfer that fast! Using Workspace or cpio -p was even slower (down in the 2.5-3 kbyte/sec range). This drive should be fast, why is it so slow? I used dd to read from /dev/rsd3h for about 200MB, and the read rate was in the 600KB/sec range. Why when it is accessed as a file system is it so slow? I know that Next CD-drives don't have this problem. The second is that CDPlayer says "Couldn't open CDROM drive." Now, I hacked with CDPlayer for a while, and it goes out and opens /dev/sg0 (whatever), the SCSI-controller device node. It does a series of ioctl's on that file descripter, then decides from that that sd2 is my CDROM, tries to open /dev/rsd2h, but, hey, that's my third hard disk(don't touch that)! So of course, that fails. The CDROM is /dev/sd3! What's wrong with this program, and since it's included under the NextDeveloper/Demos directory, why don't they give us some source, eh? I noticed mention here of a program someone wrote to play cd's on some third party cd-player. Is the source for that program available? Will the person that wrote it email me? I will be glad to tweek it to work on this Sony drive and make that available to the net. This is the same drive that Sun sells (or almost the same) and maybe SGI as well. Any replies will be appreciated! a
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any soundcard with Q-sound technology supported ? Date: 11 Mar 1994 21:24:45 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2lrclt$50p@cobber.cord.edu> References: <2lqimu$cp7@rhodamine.ee.pdx.edu> Keywords: Q-sound, soundcard In article <2lqimu$cp7@rhodamine.ee.pdx.edu>, Pitak Chenkosol <pitakc@ee.pdx.edu> wrote: >Is there a plan to support a soundcard with Q-sound technology within >NeXSTEP ? Is the Q-sound soundcard still a vaporware ? > >Any info is appreciated. I don't know why NeXT doesn't support Creative Lab's Soundblaster yet since it is the standard on PCs. Creative Labs will be releasing (in the next few weeks) their new AWE32 card that incorporates Q-sound technology. Too bad it uses a somewhat proprietary DSP (don't know which chip they use). Here is a little snippet about the DSP from Creative Lab's announcement. ------------------Begin Creative Labs AWE32 snippet-------------------------- Advanced Signal Processing Creative's Advanced Signal Processor, a programmable DSP, performs real- time compression and decompression of audio files. It also features Creative TextAssist advanced text-to-speech synthesis and QSound 180x virtual audio. For voice-annotating documents, Creative offers two options for compressing and decompressing speech data - FastSpeech 8 and FastSpeech 10. FastSpeech 8 compresses data to one eighth its original size and FastSpeech 10 compresses data to one tenth its original size. Because FastSpeech compresses data in real-time, users do not need to conduct off-line processing. Advanced Audio Technology E-mu's patented digital sample playback technology, which is incorporated into Creative's Advanced WavEffects synthesis, is based on the EMU8000 audio DSP and features CD quality, real instrument sounds that surpass the audio quality produced by wave table synthesis technology. Many of the features of Sound Blaster AWE32 are traditionally only available with high-end professional audio products that often cost thousands of dollars. It supports multi-timbral MIDI channels with 32-voice polyphony as well as independent control of advanced special effects (reverb, chorus or QSound), vibrato (pitch oscillation) and tremolo (volume oscillation) for each of its 32 voices. Additional advanced audio features include state-of-the art pitch-shifting techniques, resonance filters that control the timbre of each instrument when played at different dynamic levels, a six-part amplitude envelope, and a six-part auxiliary envelope for independent controlling of pitch and timbre. ------------------------End snippet------------------------------------ -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 12 Mar 1994 04:36:21 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2lrgs5$oeg@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> In article <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) writes: > > Newer Technology has just released a 68040 accelerator for Mac > Quadras. Why is this interesting to NeXT owners? Because this > 50mhz 68040 accelerator sits in the 68040 socket and only > the 68040 socket. It is not a Nubus or PDS card like most Mac > accelerators are. This means there is a chance that it would > work in a NeXT. Has anyone tried it? I just got a fax > on the dimensions of the card, and it looks like it might > fit. The dimensions are: 4.65" x 2.2" x 1" tall. One might > have to remove the floppy drive and stick it outside the case of > a station. I don't have a cube handy to see if there's enough > room there. > I doubt there's room in a cube--the heatsink on either the '040 or the DSP (can't remember which is where on the board right now) comes *very* close to the power-supply/drive cage. On one of our cubes here the paint is worn off the heatsink from removing/inserting the board. :( -- David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse rollers Message-ID: <CMJ30J.Cow@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval References: <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 01:33:54 GMT In article <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken) writes: > > What are the rollers in a NeXT mouse supposed to look like? The > problem I have is that the two fat rollers look like metal with a thin strip of > gunge in the middle. This strip is very firmly stuck on, and I'm not sure > whether it's really gunge or whether it's something that's supposed to be > there---presumably all accross the roller. I'm afraid to remove it, since > if it's *supposed* to be there, I'm likely only to make my mouse's stickiness > worse. > They are born white, teh rest _is_ gunge you can remove -- carefully.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: what's the BEST mouse for NS/486? Message-ID: <CMJq6t.B3p@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 09:54:29 GMT In article <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> hans@tms-gmbh.de writes: [ ] >From our expierience get a Bus Mouse or a motherboard with a >PS/2 mouse port.! Why? A serial mouse works fine. In either case you are going to use an IRQ. I've never used an OS where a bus mouse was significantly better. My mouse works ok on my NeXT PC. It would be nice if I could make the pointer larger. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting Sony CDU 561 Dbl spd CD to work Date: 12 Mar 1994 10:33:19 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2ls5pf$1oj@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2loqfc$bgl@jethro.corp.sun.com> asharp@oberon.Corp.Sun.COM wrote in comp.sys.next.hardware > >I have a Sony CDU 561 dbl speed cd-rom drive on my cube, and I have two >major problems with it that I wish I could solve. > >The first is that the transfer rate is abismal, when it should be >blazing! I recently read about 450 MB of data off a CD and onto one of >my hard drives. Total aggregate throughput: a whopping 12.5 >kbytes/sec! That's not a typo! And that was the fastest way to do the >copy (using two tar processes). My SLIP line will xfer that fast! >Using Workspace or cpio -p was even slower (down in the 2.5-3 kbyte/sec >range). This drive should be fast, why is it so slow? I used dd to >read from /dev/rsd3h for about 200MB, and the read rate was in the >600KB/sec range. Why when it is accessed as a file system is it so slow? I >know that Next CD-drives don't have this problem. > >The second is that CDPlayer says "Couldn't open CDROM drive." Now, I >hacked with CDPlayer for a while, and it goes out and opens /dev/sg0 >(whatever), the SCSI-controller device node. It does a series of ioctl's >on that file descripter, then decides from that that sd2 is my CDROM, >tries to open /dev/rsd2h, but, hey, that's my third hard disk(don't >touch that)! So of course, that fails. The CDROM is /dev/sd3! What's the h means that's not a data volume. (rsd2a is you harddisk) man 4 sd Partition h of the character device is a special device called the ``live'' partition; for example, sd1h. I/O to and from the live partition is used to access disks that do not have a valid label, and to access portions of disks nor- mally inaccessible to read(2) and write(2) calls - for exam- ple, the front porch. >wrong with this program, and since it's included under the >NextDeveloper/Demos directory, why don't they give us some source, eh? When have you been given source to anything in Demos besides Draw? I'd like the source to FileMerge but I'm not going to get it. I can live with that. >I noticed mention here of a program someone wrote to play cd's on some >third party cd-player. Is the source for that program available? Will >the person that wrote it email me? I will be glad to tweek it to work >on this Sony drive and make that available to the net. This is the >same drive that Sun sells (or almost the same) and maybe SGI as well. Don't sun drives have to have a block size of 512 bytes? NS drives have to have a 2K block size don't they? There is loads of CD rom source on the internet. I just spent the last week looking at most of it. The drive should work with CDPlayer.app. I own an apple CD300 and it's a 8003a drive which is exactly the same as the CDU 561. (What is the blocksize of your drive?, you may have a jumper to set in order to change it) CDPlayer is working correctly. You don't insert the disc UNTIL CD player asks for it. CDPlayer and other apps, use the scsi generic device technique in order to ensure that the workspace cannot eject the CD. >Any replies will be appreciated! -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ZyXEL modem newsgroup Date: 12 Mar 1994 10:40:18 -0000 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2ls66i$21j@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2linab$j3@sal-sun47.usc.edu> <2lj5es$chr@techie.zyxel.com> <jkidwell-110394111505@jkidwell.pbs.org> I thought NeXT folk would be interested in this. jkidwell@pbs.org (Jason Kidwell) wrote in comp.dcom.modems >In article <2lj5es$chr@techie.zyxel.com>, brentm@zyxel.com (Brent Mosbrook) >wrote: > >> Mario Lemieux (ikeuchi@sal-sun47.usc.edu) wrote: >> : Is there a group only for ZyXEL modems? >> >> There is a ZyXEL FAQ, which deals exclusively with ZyXEL-specific > >You can find it at: > > anonymous FTP @ rtfm.mit.edu > /pub/usenet/news.answers/modems/ZyXEL/FAQ/part[1-5] > >-- >jkidwell@pbs.org, 1320 Braddock Place, Alexandria, VA 22314 703-739-5126 -- "You know what's wrong with you?" (Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant) "No, what?" "Nothing" (Charade, 1963) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: piro@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Oreste Piro) Subject: How do I configure a SPORTSTER 14400 Fax Modem? Message-ID: <1994Mar12.094500.4274@bnlux1.bnl.gov> Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973 References: <2kiasaEsnq@uni-erlangen.de> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 09:45:00 GMT I am trying to install an USRobotics SPORTSTER 14400 Fax Modem on a 030 cube running 3.0. It works fine in data mode, but I cant make it work in FAX mode. Print manager only seems to know about HSD and Interfax modems. What can I do to make it talk to the Sportster? Please e-mail me the answers to piro@obelix.uib.es (NeXTMail) Thanks in advance. Oreste Piro
From: chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu (Chuck Waltrip) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Laptop/Notebook Wishlist Date: 12 Mar 1994 19:29:16 GMT Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab Distribution: world Message-ID: <2lt56c$cv1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Keywords: notebooks, laptops, portables I recently checked with Cypress Computers on their notebook computer with docking station advertised in a recent NEXTWORLD issue. It looks pretty good and the price seems good. I may even buy it. But before I make any plunge, I thought I'd describe my ideal notebook and see if anybody knows of someone offering or about to offer my dream machine (I thought this belonged in the advocacy group since I'm "advocating" some particular characteristics for a notebook/laptop computer; I'll cross post to hardware and marketplace). My list is not in priority order: 1. Fast processor. At least 486DX/2 66 MHz. 2. Fast internal bus (VLB or, preferably, PCI). 3. At least 32 Mbyte memory (the Cypress offering tops out at 20 Mbytes and this is probably the main thing that causes me to hesitate). 4. At least 600 Mbyte internal disk drive. 5. Built-in Ethernet connector. I want to be able to plug in easily at home or at work. A docking station is not as convenient...I like to work on the couch, on the deck, in bed, or wherever an Ethernet cable might reach. I want access to my desktop machine and its disks via Ethernet. 6. Built-in, external SCSI connector (would be OK if this were available via PCMCIA but I'd prefer a built-in, external SCSI-2 connector). This would be less important if item 8 below were available. 7. Internal data/fax modem at least 14.4 Kbps for both data and fax. 8. Built-in 128 Mbyte MO 3.5" disk drive (256 Mbyte would be preferable). 9. Screen. Well, the larger and the higher the density the better (I can live with 640x480 but sure would like higher density on a bit larger screen). Grayscale is OK. Active matrix color (or comparable quality) would be preferable; has to be pretty fast. 10. Built-in microphone and speakers might be nice but I suspect that the most practical thing might be a jack(s) that you could plug in a headset earphone/microphone combo. This should make it possible to use Simon Says. Maybe someone will eventually offer speech recognition via some PCMCIA device augmentation. 11. A couple of serial ports. 12. An external mouse port. 13. At least one parallel port. 14. A Thinkpad-like pointer; or a pointer similar to the one Apple will be offering on their new 040 PowerBooks. I'll take a trackball if I have to--but I'll hate it. Still, an external mouse port would make it bearable. 15. A stylish design would be nice. 16. Size: might have to be a bit larger than your typical notebook to fit all this stuff in and possibly to accommodate a larger screen. Can't be much larger though. Needs to stay under 8 lbs. 17. Docking station. EISA bus. If an external SCSI-2 connector and an Ethernet connector are provided on the notebook, the only use for a docking station is to provide access to the primary (in my opinion) benefit of the Intel world: some of the EISA/ISA peripherals. 18. Price: fully-loaded, probably needs to stay under $8K. I note that the new IBM PowerPC-based portable (which does include built-in audio) costs $12K according to a report on Nightly Business Report. That's a bit rich, I'm afraid. So, if you a. sell such a machine; b. plan to sell such a machine soon; c. know of a vendor selling such a machine; d. know of a vendor planning to sell such a machine soon then send me email. I'll post. Also, if you'd like to comment on my list of features, send me email. I'd particularly welcome comments on each feature where you rated it M (mandatory), O (optional) or U (undesirable). If you rate a feature O, you might refine it further by a H (highly desirable), D (desirable) or L (couldn't care Less) rating. Also, feel free to add your own features. I'll tally and summarize. -- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/__/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ cfwaltrip _/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/NeXTmail: <chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu>_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 12 Mar 1994 11:33:04 -0800 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <2lt5dg$dej@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> <CMJ29G.G3@dsinc!flash> I looked probably a year ago when Daystar was talking about a similar product. I posted to the net and called Daystar tech support. Both sources said definately not except that details regarding why were not adequately addressed. If someone definately knows lets hear it. Another question to consider is how easy it is to remove the existing 040 to stick the new product underneath. Mines got a heat sink and it doesn't look good as far as space goes. maurices
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what's the BEST mouse for NS/486? Date: 12 Mar 1994 20:09:42 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2lt7i6$gjg@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> <CMJq6t.B3p@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <CMJq6t.B3p@utstat.toronto.edu>, Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote: >In article <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> hans@tms-gmbh.de writes: > >[ ] > >>From our expierience get a Bus Mouse or a motherboard with a >>PS/2 mouse port.! > >Why? A serial mouse works fine. In either case you are going to use an IRQ. >I've never used an OS where a bus mouse was significantly better. My mouse >works ok on my NeXT PC. It would be nice if I could make the pointer larger. > >-- If you need more than one free serial port then a bus mouse would be better. But make sure the device is on the compatibility list. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Swap Disk Date: 12 Mar 1994 20:23:41 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2lt8cd$guh@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <1.5053.2588.0N27BFAA@satalink.com> In article <1.5053.2588.0N27BFAA@satalink.com>, Tim Romano <tim.romano@satalink.com> wrote: >I'd be grateful for some clarification on how to add a small (80mb) SCSI >swap disk to NS/Intel 3.2 with two IDE drives, and a CD ROM already >installed as SCSI target 0. The documentation seems to contain a >contradiction with respect to the SCSI target setting. > >The BUILDING A SWAP DISK section in the online "Attaching Peripherals" >documentation states that one should follow the procedures in the >section on BUILDING A BOOTABLE DISK. That section, in turn, states that >the disk should be initialized as an ADDITIONAL SCSI DISK. That section >recommends a SCSI ID greater than 1 for the disk. However, the section >on BUILDING A BOOTABLE DISK stated that the drive should be set at SCSI >target 0. The dangers of multiple inheritance? Dangers of recursive documentation. A swap disk should never be "left" at scsi id 0. If you every need to boot from the scsi bus, NS will try lower device numbers first. Build the drive at any scsi ID you want, it really isn't critical as long as your scsi cables and hardware of good qualiy. You should watch and monitor the booting process. Pay special attention to what /dev/sdX gets assigned to the scsi ID of your 80mb drive. IE: scsi id 5 != /dev/sd5. The sdX is assigned starting from 0 as it finds drive. If you have scsi ids 1 and 4 you will have devices /dev/sd0 and /dev/sd1. This is standard "unix" assigments. > >Never having done this before, and being fairly new to SCSI, I'm worried >that I'm going to destroy my system with a false move here. The seeming >contradiction in the documentation probably stems from the fact that the >documentation is a holdover from black-only days and assumes there is >already a bootable SCSI disk installed, which there is not (at least for >now). > Yes, this is partially true. Though some White systems are totally SCSI. >If the swap disk is my _only_ SCSI drive, apart from the CD-ROM, what >are the recommended SCSI settings? Would these settings have to change >if I later wanted to add another SCSI drive for applications? > I recall on Black hardware if the scsi drive is given the label "swap" it will automatically (and totally) be used for swapping. It may do this even if it has data on it. Be careful. You should verify this. Otherwise, I would defer to others as to exactly best way to build and install a swap disk. I'd leave slot 0 open if possible, cdrom at 4 or 5 and use 2 or 3 for the small scsi. You never know when you might want to temporarily install an external bootable scsi disk to help fix a sick system. It saves having to tear into an already sick system to change jumpers. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN Adapter Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 15:53:00 GMT Organization: welcome to nowhere... Message-ID: <CMK6sD.1IH@arkin> References: <1994Mar7.084003.12380@htl-bw.ch> Originator: ARKIN@nice Roger Meyer (ia91meye@mr4661.htl-bw.ch) wrote: > I'd like to buy an ISDN adapter for my NeXTstation for getting connected > to the InterNet via DialUp. I think there are two ISDN adapters available. > My problem: Will they work in switzerland as well as in the USA? > Thanks for helping me. a possible setup is to get a cheap 286 with an ISDN card and an Ethernet card and connect it to the NeXT... christian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse rollers Message-ID: <CMKAou.Ep@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 17:17:17 GMT I removed this stuff - mouse still works ok for me. J rgen --- Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok ) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688 == The revolution will not be televised - GilScottHeron 1970 == == The revolution will not be posted - Juergen 1994 ==
From: acs_goray@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: powering down monitor/printer Message-ID: <1994Mar12.185507.3492@rivers> Date: 12 Mar 94 18:55:07 -0600 Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls Hi. I have a couple of questions relating to my new used blackbox hardware regarding powering up and down 1) I do not wish to run my laser printer all the time as it is somewhat noisy, is there a better way than the power plug to control if it is on or off? 2) I would like to be able to turn my monitor off without powering down the cpu, is there any way to do that? perhaps a low level program. thank you all you gurus :) Jason.Goray@uwrf.edu --
From: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse rollers Date: 13 Mar 1994 03:04:22 GMT Organization: University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <2ltvrm$s3f@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> References: <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> <CMJ3tM.H2F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> In article <CMJ3tM.H2F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, > >when new.) When my mouse gets sticky, I pull off the gunge with >tweezers, then wipe all three rollers with rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip. >Then all is well. > For really tough gunge infestations, I find that some Ronsonol lighter fluid on a cotton swab does wonders. I've found it to be safe as far as not harming/discoloring the plastic. -Steve- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Stephen B. McCullagh || E-mail: mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca | | Faculty of Engineering Science || : steve@charon.engga.uwo.ca | | University of Western Ontario || Phone : (519) 679-2111 ext. 8112 | | London, Ontario CANADA || Office: Room 1019 ESB | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: christ@park.bu.edu (Christian Mannes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel 144/144e fax modem problem Date: 12 Mar 94 21:59:56 Organization: B.U. Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems Distribution: comp Message-ID: <CHRIST.94Mar12215956@park.bu.edu> I have a problem with an Intel 144 fax modem on a NextStation running 3.0: data mode works fine, but I can't quite get it to send a fax. Everytime I try, it apparently connects to the other fax machine, does all the typical noises suggesting it is actually connecting to the machine, then stops with a "handshake failed" message in fax reader's log. Also, the fax daemon processes are still running after that, making it necessary to kill them by hand. Does anyone know how to fix this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Christian Mannes christ@cns.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns) Subject: Advice sought on which Pentium Desktop for NS Message-ID: <rburnsCML28w.67H@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 03:12:31 GMT I'm a Sybase SQL Server programmer getting ready to join the ranks of NextStep Developers. I'm getting ready to upgrade my 25Mhz motherboard as soon as I can figure out what I should get. From what I can see the ATI Ultra-Pro is the most widely used/available NextStep Graphics board. I'm a little fuzzy on the pros and cons of VLB over PCI(but I get the impression that PCI is definitely the wave of the future and is easier to configure). I haven't found any NS driver for the ATI GUP for PCI (there is a reference in the FAQ about availability Q194 but I see no driver on ftp.next.com)-so it looks like it is VLB for me unless someone can come up with an alternative suggestion. I'd also appreciate any suggestions folks have about specific Silicon Valley hardware vendors who are NS-friendly. Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Serial Mouse desease -> Whhhhhyyyy ? Message-ID: <CML5ut.GqJ@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <1994Mar9.192201.16688@flens.syd.de> <2lq84a$bjh@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 04:30:28 GMT In article <2lq84a$bjh@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) writes: [The case of the dancing mice...] >I would suspect (relatively) high interrupt latency in the serial driver >I loose characters if I try to run at 19200 on my modem. This should >be solvable. I used to run 386bsd 0.1 with patch kit 0.2.4. The >plain vanilla had the same problem. But some brilliant folks took the >time to work on it, and with all of their patches installed (which >were included in the patch kit), I could run the interface to my >Telebit Worldblazer at 38400, and not loose any characters, while at >the same time run something like 'find / -print > /dev/null' in another >X-window. (And this was with a non-FIFO.) > >Another thing I wonder, as an aside, is wheter or not the serial driver >recognizes FIFOs, ie. 16550A or whatever. My 3.1 eval kit does not >seem to have any driver examples to check. Anybody have any idea? Well, I decided to have a closer look at the mouse issue and tried a bus mouse from Logitech. It had other problems, but it was smooth and I now see the problem with the serial mouse I am using. It's actually quite annoying. I suspect that NS does recognize fast UART's as I put in a 16550 UART card in for my modem and it stopped dropping most characters at 19.6k . Still not perfect though, but a heck of a lot better than before. It would be nice to have some fix. The idea of getting a bus mouse and yet another card is not appealing. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: what's the BEST mouse for NS/486? Message-ID: <CML62F.Gwn@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2lk07m$2pv@galaxy.ucr.edu> <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> <CMJq6t.B3p@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 04:35:03 GMT In article <CMJq6t.B3p@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >In article <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> hans@tms-gmbh.de writes: > >[ ] > >>From our expierience get a Bus Mouse or a motherboard with a >>PS/2 mouse port.! > >Why? A serial mouse works fine. In either case you are going to use an IRQ. >I've never used an OS where a bus mouse was significantly better. My mouse >works ok on my NeXT PC. It would be nice if I could make the pointer larger. I take this back. The serial mouse is not as smooth as a bus mouse, but then again the short time I had with a bus mouse did not convince me to switch. I really don't know why NS's mouse wants to dance... -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS/FIP drivers for the Matrox MGA II -- impossible Date: 13 Mar 1994 04:33:11 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2lu527$q71@digdug.pencom.com> References: <PHIL.94Mar11091303@hp9000.vis.com> Phil Romine writes > I believe the original premise of this discussion, that you can only > write drivers for video cards which can linearly map their entire > frame into memory, is false. NeXT, for example, now provides an > abstract driver class (IOSVGADisplay) for SVGA displays (SVGAs are not > frame buffer displays). But the catch is that if you write a super vga display driver it will only get 2-bit grayscale from the window server... That means that you will have to put the VGA in one of those 4-bits per pixel modes (16 colors). -- + Ricardo J. Parada
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS/FIP drivers for the Matrox MGA II -- impossible Date: 13 Mar 1994 04:38:09 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2lu5bh$h3o@digdug.pencom.com> References: <1994Mar10.024829.3756@adobe.com> Perry A. Caro writes > The miro may or may not have suboptimal performance (whatever that is), > but I doubt it is due to either VLB or PCI, which have virtually the > same performance characteristics for current implementations, at least > on a 486. The PCI miroCRYSTAL 32S flies... The VLB miroCRYSTAL 32S is good. However the PCI miroCRYSTAL 32S was running with a Pentium and I'm not sure how much it was helping to the performance improvement. If I ever test it with a 486 with PCI bus then I'll be able to tell how much the performance improvement is due to the PCI bus itself. -- + Ricardo J. Parada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: what's the BEST mouse for NS/486? Message-ID: <CML6A0.H36@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CMEuov.1F9@tms-gmbh.de> <CMJq6t.B3p@utstat.toronto.edu> <2lt7i6$gjg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 04:39:35 GMT In article <2lt7i6$gjg@news.acns.nwu.edu> j-weiss@nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: [ ] >>Why? A serial mouse works fine. In either case you are going to use an IRQ. >>I've never used an OS where a bus mouse was significantly better. My mouse >>works ok on my NeXT PC. It would be nice if I could make the pointer larger. >> >>-- > >If you need more than one free serial port then a bus mouse would be >better. But make sure the device is on the compatibility list. Well that's true, although you have yet another IRQ to deal with. The Logitech mouse I tried today was much smoother than my serial mouse, which dances, but it didn't feel right either. There's something wrong with mice on the NeXT at this time. I can recall never liking the Cube's mouse too! The test is basically Solitaire for me. I simply don't enjoy it as much as I should. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: rwagner@kaiwan.com (Ron David Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR 53700 driver needed Date: 12 Mar 1994 20:50:10 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2lu622$500@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Wagner <rwagner@kaiwan.com> member8008@aol.com 70313.1574@compuserve.com NeXTStep on Black AND White!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs From: mimbeck@mimbeck.hanse.de (Martin Imbeck) Subject: Re: please help me with a 1542B/Sony 541 CD-ROM Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs References: <2lfiuf$lsf@menudo.uh.edu> Organization: NeXTstep site Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 12:09:57 GMT Message-ID: <1994Mar11.120957.459@mimbeck.hanse.de> Distribution: usa David Wang (dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu) wrote: : Hi, I just got a Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller and a sony 541 single speed : CD-ROM. I was trying to install NeXT Step with it, and so far, no luck. I use the same configuration and had no problems. Perhaps you should try the default settings of the adaptec and the motherboard's bios. Or disable the floppy controller on the adaptec, I heard there is some trouble with it. -- Martin Imbeck / phone +49-40-874436 / No NeXTmail mimbeck@mimbeck.hanse.de / NeXTstep / please!
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ZyXEL modem newsgroup Date: 13 Mar 1994 06:28:23 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2lubq7$apr@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <2linab$j3@sal-sun47.usc.edu> <2lj5es$chr@techie.zyxel.com> <jkidwell-110394111505@jkidwell.pbs.org> <2ls66i$21j@steffi.demon.co.uk> In article <2ls66i$21j@steffi.demon.co.uk>, Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >I thought NeXT folk would be interested in this. > >>> There is a ZyXEL FAQ, which deals exclusively with ZyXEL-specific >> >>You can find it at: >> >> anonymous FTP @ rtfm.mit.edu >> /pub/usenet/news.answers/modems/ZyXEL/FAQ/part[1-5] Yes, indeedy them thar sucker exists! I just happen to administer the thing. Note that the administrator is a NeXThead (tm). RWW. -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and collector of titles.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) Subject: Re: accelerators for black Message-ID: <1994Mar13.064959.5977@drefla.mese.com> Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com Organization: Walking Dog Design Inc. References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 06:49:59 GMT In article <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) writes: > > Newer Technology has just released a 68040 accelerator for Mac > Quadras. Why is this interesting to NeXT owners? Because this > 50mhz 68040 accelerator sits in the 68040 socket and only > the 68040 socket. It is not a Nubus or PDS card like most Mac > accelerators are. This means there is a chance that it would > work in a NeXT. Has anyone tried it? I just got a fax > on the dimensions of the card, and it looks like it might > fit. The dimensions are: 4.65" x 2.2" x 1" tall. One might > have to remove the floppy drive and stick it outside the case of > a station. I don't have a cube handy to see if there's enough > room there. > > More on the card: it goes for around $1100 and has a 30day money back > guarantee. A 50mhz 68040 should SPEC somewhere in the low > 20's. They do overrun a 40mhz 68040 since no 50mhz 68040's are > available. I saw an April Macworld write up on the product, and > talked to the tech support people. Newer Technology's phone > number is 316-685-4904. > Well, I hadn't planned to say anything due to the early nature of our development but there is a 68060 accelerator in the works here. We decided not to do a 68040 based accelerator for a couple of reasons: 1. We believe that it will produce mediocre performance, an impression borne out by people who have seen the NeXT prototype of the nitro board. Remember, you don't get a linear speed increase due to bus syncronization overhead and the like. It would have to have a significant cache on board to even hope to do well and even then.... 2. The planned pricing for the 68060 make it economically unsound. It would cost more to make an 040 accelerator with cache than an 060 without. The 060 without cache should significantly outperform the 040 with. 3. Motorola does not plan to announce any 68040's faster than 40Mhz. Stressing these parts past their rated specs is chancy at best. Usually you won't see a catastrophic failure, more likely is small (?) errors in the floating point unit which would be hard to pin down. Anyway, I thought I would give you all a little more info to go on. We believe we will have a shippable board by the end of summer (keep your fingers crossed). We will announce it on the appropriate groups when we have working prototypes (i.e. when it is reasonably risk free). Target price is about $1500 for a 50Mhz (for the 25Mhz slabs/cubes) and $1800 for the 66Mhz (for turbos). This all depends on availability of chips, of course... We will try to keep you all informed of significant milestones in our development. Matt -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Brandt | If the people will lead matt@drefla.mese.com | then the leaders will follow
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: Re: why not buy Gateway2000 (to run NEXTSTEP/Intel) ??? Date: 13 Mar 1994 12:07:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2luvmd$c6u@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2lita5$f3r@Times.Stanford.EDU> <2llhvv$p6t@news.u.washington.edu> <2lm1ge$m7h@Times.Stanford.EDU> (in comp.sys.next.marketplace) In article <2loor3$bgl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, Andrew Sharp <asharp@oberon.Corp.Sun.COM> wrote: >> So what he said was that >> they reduced the price of the 66 to the price of the 60, without >> changing the price of the 60. So for nothing, you get an extra 6MHz and >> a write-thru cache (a slightly better cache). > >Slightly better than what? Write-thru is considered to be the cheapest >and slowest. Write-back is better. The following is from one of the Oops. I think I gooded. My guess is that the 60 has a write-thru and the 66 a write-back. >Currently, the Pentium offerings from AST and ALR are considered much >better than the Gateway, which is just a 486 design with a P5 >shoehorned in, and not fast-enough over a 486 to be worth buying, IMHO. > >a Hmm? Where does this information come from? What exactly does "a 486 design" mean? The Gateway P5s use an Intel PCI/ISA (2,4,1 interleaved) motherboard. In what way is this inferior to the motherboards used by other companies? The Gateway 486s now exclusively use PCI motherboards and not VL-bus, but it is a different motherboard from the one in the Pentium systems. I find it stange that there would be something 486-ish about the Pentium boards. Do you have either (a) a technical explanation of the source of the inferiority, or (b) fair comparative benchmark results to substantiate this rumor? -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: NeXT Mono Monitor Message-ID: <CMLy50.8nx@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: monitor, repair Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> <1994Mar13.064959.5977@drefla.mese.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 14:41:23 GMT Does anyone know where I can get my NeXT Monochrome monitor repaired. The screen is distorted. I have adjusted the yoke on the crt - this only adjusts rotation. I have also fiddled with the magnets on the yoke collar with only minor improvments. Bell Atlantic wants $595.00 + exchange - "No Monitor Repairs" per phone conversation with service. Please e-mail advice/info to : dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Thanks, David Bradford
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help formatting for "HP 97560-300" hard disk. Date: 13 Mar 1994 13:47:15 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2lv5h3$dn@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <199402180606.HAA29657@grasp.insa-lyon.fr> In article <199402180606.HAA29657@grasp.insa-lyon.fr> shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim) writes: |>Bonjour! |> |>I've HP-Hard Disk(HP 97560-300) with 1.7GB listing capacity, but can only obtain 1.2GB after formatting in my NeXTCube (NS3.2). I think this gab is too large. It seems that the reason I couldn't getting more space on hard drive is because the NeXT disk formatting software cannot deal with a drive that large, and accordingly, reduces the size. |>If my suggestion isn't wrong, please let me know how can I correct it, or construct the proper disktab for my drive. |> |>Merci d'avance. |> |>-- |>#################################################################### |>Kwangbo SHIM |>87, rue Marengo, 42100 St-Etienne, FRANCE |>Voice, Fax & Data:(+33)77933688 Basic Schedule: 08h-18h |>Email: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (NeXTMail OK!) |>#################################################################### Hi there, I happen to have a HP97560 connected to my workstation, and I managed to obtain some specifications on the drive from the local HP dealer. According to these specs, the 97560 is 1,575,012,600 bytes, with 1,355,304,960 bytes available after formatting, both numbers with 512 bytes sectors (I haven t been able to change the sectorsize, and believe, I have tried!). If you then take into account that NS takes apx. 10% as a systemadminstrator-only diskspace when formatting, you get 1355MB - 135MB = 1220MB, and that is more or less what I have on my drive. Now, you can change the percentage of systemadministrator space to e.g. 5% or even less, but everybody I have talked to says that this is NOT recommended as you might end losing data! I don t if there s any special about the -300 of your drive, mine doesn t say 97560-300, just 97560. BUT, it is definitely NOT NS limiting the size of drive, I have friend who is running a 2.8GB drive on his NeXT, with 2.2GB or so available after formatting, so that is not the problem. I really think that the above stated fact is what happened to your drive.... Please don t hesistate to mail, if you need more info on the drive, I can fax or copy/mail the specs to you if you want....... Best regards Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Work: Int + 45 43 43 43 03 Fax: Int + 45 43 43 59 70 _____________________________________________
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer OFF! Date: 13 Mar 1994 14:02:09 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2lv6d1$f6@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <1994Feb21.181743.7420@plexare.com> In article <1994Feb21.181743.7420@plexare.com> msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy) writes: |>bbeckwit@carrock.hw.stratus.com (Bob Beckwith) writes: |>> Another thing you can consider doing is adding this to your crontab so |>> that every 5 or 10 minutes you turn the printer off. I've never tried, |>> but I think if you issue an power off command while the printer is |>> printing, it gets "queued up" and the printer turns off after it's done. |> |>If you issue a `nppower off' command while the printer is off it will |>cycle power to the printer which is probably a bad thing to do every 5-10 |>minutes. My crontab does it once a day just to be sure I don't forget to |>turn it off. |> |>Mike Barthelemy |>NEXTSTEP Developer |>msb@plexare.com |> Hi, There is a small daemon, nppowerd which will do the trick, it turns your printer off, when not in use. You specify the how long after usage it should turn it off. I consider this to be the best solution of the so-far mentioned. I have out my command in rc.local, so it gets executed everytime I boot my NeXT. I have used for about 1/2 year or so, and never had any problems with that. Look for NPPOWERD on the archives, if you can t find it, mail me, and I ll mail the files needed..... Best regards Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Work: Int + 45 43 43 43 03 Fax: Int + 45 43 43 59 70 _____________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Subject: Video interface for NeXTStation Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land) Message-ID: <CMM5Iw.6Br@musical.fdn.org> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 17:20:56 GMT Does anyone know if exist an SCSI-port or DSP-port interface able to output an video composite signal (PAL) from a TIFF image. Please reply by e-mail, thanks in advance. Sam --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sam Przyswa << Rock n Jazz BBS >> E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102 --<NeXTmail accepted 10Ko max>-- France Music & Midi BBS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: compression on DAT drive Keywords: HP DAT compression References: <2kur6q$odq@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2kvu4n$epq@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 09:33:19 GMT Message-ID: <1994Mar13.093319.395@proximus.north.de> Summary: DIP switches on HP drives to enable compression. Help needed. In article <2kvu4n$epq@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca>, [...] > >Anyway, I have the HP 35480A DAT drive. Me too... >There is a set of dip switches on the bottom of the unit, > >On > > >Off 1 2 3 4 5 ... > >S1 S2 Meaning >Off Off Compression disabled, no host control >Off On Compression disabled, host is allowed to control > compression >On Off Compression enabled, no host control >On On Compression enalbed, host is allowed to control True, but what option is understood by the NeXT? How can my NeXT control the compression???? How can I check if the DAT currently compresses or not? If the NeXT is not able to control the compression, should I set Compression enabled, no host control? >3-8 are used to specify drive connetivity. Contat your HP distributor... Well, In my documentation there are the first two DIPs described, but not the six remeining ones. Then the manual talks about senses and modes like * asynchronous sense * EW-EOM on read error * full reset * signed residue * performance * immediate * infinite flush * fixed mode * no parity * no data disconnects * switch buffered * write zero FM * no EW-EOM residue But there is NO hint how the dips have to be set to set or unset those options. Too bad. Does anyone out there know what the meaning of the remaining dips is? What is the "bext" (best) configuration for the NeXT? Many questions, Gerhard.
From: jtod@access1.digex.net (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 13 Mar 1994 21:48:31 GMT Organization: Wit's End Message-ID: <2m01nf$mg4@news1.digex.net> References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> Bill Chin (bchin@clt.fx.net) wrote: : Newer Technology has just released a 68040 accelerator for Mac : Quadras. Why is this interesting to NeXT owners? Because this : 50mhz 68040 accelerator sits in the 68040 socket and only : the 68040 socket. It is not a Nubus or PDS card like most Mac : accelerators are. This means there is a chance that it would : work in a NeXT. Has anyone tried it? I just got a fax : on the dimensions of the card, and it looks like it might : fit. The dimensions are: 4.65" x 2.2" x 1" tall. One might : have to remove the floppy drive and stick it outside the case of : a station. I don't have a cube handy to see if there's enough : room there. : More on the card: it goes for around $1100 and has a 30day money back : guarantee. A 50mhz 68040 should SPEC somewhere in the low : 20's. They do overrun a 40mhz 68040 since no 50mhz 68040's are : available. I saw an April Macworld write up on the product, and : talked to the tech support people. Newer Technology's phone : number is 316-685-4904. : Why not just buy white? Because FrameMaker, Improv, et al : don't run on white hardware (yet). Also, it would be quite : an investment going from a B&W station - $1100 isn't that : much in comparison. Personally, I haven't decided if it's : worth the money (hence, this post instead of a success/failure story) : Please post any findings! No findings, but I'm also quite interested. There was a post on csn.marketplace a week or so ago for a fellow selling a Nitro upgrade (40mhz for Turbos only) but he was also asking $3k at last check. That's crazy. $1100 sounds about like it. How about memory speed? I'm assuming that there would be a problem with older chipsets. How about the DSP? How about timing for the DMA stuff? I dunno. Sounds too good to be true, but if it IS true, I'll sell the stereo and grab one of these until my future employer decides to give me a Gecko :) -- John Todd | Need Job: Can sell NeXTs/cars, fix same| NRA & Pro-Choice 406 Cedar,NW Apt 4| "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo Wshgtn, DC 20012 | Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused 202/726-3806 | jtod@digex.net | Eager, intelligent, meticulous, doomed.
From: tbou1@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (TROY BOULTON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: A question... Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 02:58:58 GMT Organization: Monash University Distribution: world Message-ID: <tbou1.5.2D83D2F2@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au> Okay, this may seem a little odd to you, but ever since I saw the NeXT, I have, as your typical computer nut, been very interested in the system. Problem is, I have not been able to hear too much information here about the NeXT, and want confirmed (hopefully killed, actually) a rumour that the NeXT is no longer produced in hardware. I know that NeXT-Step runs on Intel machines now (I think) - but do they still make those sexy NeXT boxes (and I don't mean Cubes) anymore... (If they do, I can retain my fantasy about one day owning a NeXT).. Thanks ___________________ Yort an Arts/Science Person @ Monash Melbourne Australia
From: waters@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Waters) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 14 Mar 1994 03:17:47 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Message-ID: <2m0l0r$fi2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> <2m01nf$mg4@news1.digex.net> John Todd (jtod@access1.digex.net) wrote: : Bill Chin (bchin@clt.fx.net) wrote: : : Newer Technology has just released a 68040 accelerator for Mac : : Quadras. Why is this interesting to NeXT owners? Because this : : 50mhz 68040 accelerator sits in the 68040 socket and only : : the 68040 socket. It is not a Nubus or PDS card like most Mac : : accelerators are. This means there is a chance that it would : : work in a NeXT. Has anyone tried it? I just got a fax : : on the dimensions of the card, and it looks like it might : : fit. The dimensions are: 4.65" x 2.2" x 1" tall. One might : : have to remove the floppy drive and stick it outside the case of : : a station. I don't have a cube handy to see if there's enough : : room there. : : More on the card: it goes for around $1100 and has a 30day money back : : guarantee. A 50mhz 68040 should SPEC somewhere in the low : : 20's. They do overrun a 40mhz 68040 since no 50mhz 68040's are : : available. I saw an April Macworld write up on the product, and : : talked to the tech support people. Newer Technology's phone : : number is 316-685-4904. : : Why not just buy white? Because FrameMaker, Improv, et al : : don't run on white hardware (yet). Also, it would be quite : : an investment going from a B&W station - $1100 isn't that : : much in comparison. Personally, I haven't decided if it's : : worth the money (hence, this post instead of a success/failure story) : : Please post any findings! : No findings, but I'm also quite interested. There was a post on : csn.marketplace a week or so ago for a fellow selling a Nitro upgrade : (40mhz for Turbos only) but he was also asking $3k at last check. That's : crazy. $1100 sounds about like it. How about memory speed? I'm assuming : that there would be a problem with older chipsets. How about the DSP? How : about timing for the DMA stuff? I dunno. Sounds too good to be true, but : if it IS true, I'll sell the stereo and grab one of these until my future : employer decides to give me a Gecko :) : -- : John Todd | Need Job: Can sell NeXTs/cars, fix same| NRA & Pro-Choice : 406 Cedar,NW Apt 4| "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo : Wshgtn, DC 20012 | Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused : 202/726-3806 | jtod@digex.net | Eager, intelligent, meticulous, doomed. Knowing Newer, it is probably a chip on a small board with a fan and heatsink and a clock. that seems to be what they do best.... I have seen the inside of Cubes and doubt that they would fit in there, but a station? the board fits in the CPU socket, if it is indeed the model I am thinking about...
From: rwagner@kaiwan.com (Ron David Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR 53700 needed Date: 13 Mar 1994 19:41:19 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2m0mcv$dg1@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Wagner <rwagner@kaiwan.com> member8008@aol.com 70313.1574@compuserve.com NeXTStep on Black AND White!
From: rwagner@kaiwan.com (Ron David Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR Driver needed Date: 13 Mar 1994 19:42:58 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2m0mg2$dit@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Is there a driver for the NCR SCSI 53700 chip? Ron -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Wagner <rwagner@kaiwan.com> member8008@aol.com 70313.1574@compuserve.com NeXTStep on Black AND White!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi From: ka@socrates.hr.att.com (Kenneth Almquist) Subject: Re: largest 3.5" drive under 12 watts Message-ID: <CMn302.Au6@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T References: <1994Mar5.133047.17719@FreemanSoft.com> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 05:24:01 GMT joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes: > I've got a NeXT Station whose hard drive I want to upgrade. It currently > has a 3.5" half height (full 3.5" style) 400meg segate. The tech doc on > the segate says it consumes 12 watts. So, I'm looking for a larger drive > , in the range of 1GB, that consumes similar power. Most drives on the market have similar or smaller power requirements *if* you are talking about normal operating power. For example, the Micropolis 4110 has a typical power dissipation of 8.25 watts when seeking, but draws 1.5 A at 12 V (i.e. 18 watts) when spinning up. Kenneth Almquist
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS/FIP drivers for the Matrox MGA II -- impossible Date: 14 Mar 1994 07:51:16 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2m151k$fu5@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Mar10.024829.3756@adobe.com> <2lu5bh$h3o@digdug.pencom.com> In article <2lu5bh$h3o@digdug.pencom.com>, Ricardo Parada <ricardo@pencom.com> wrote: >The PCI miroCRYSTAL 32S flies... The VLB miroCRYSTAL 32S is good. >However the PCI miroCRYSTAL 32S was running with a Pentium and I'm not >sure how much it was helping to the performance improvement. If I ever >test it with a 486 with PCI bus then I'll be able to tell how much the >performance improvement is due to the PCI bus itself. I'm curious too--general net consensus on Miro Crystal 32S performance seems to be: PCI VL-bus Pentium flies ??? 486 ??? very fast I'd love to know the values of the ???s. -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware, From: pjm+@stevens.CS.CMU.EDU (Pedro J Moreno) Subject: need info about modems Message-ID: <CMnszw.13E.3@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: pjm+@CS.CMU.EDU (Pedro J Moreno) Organization: Carnegie Mellon University Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:45:32 GMT Hi Guys I am planning to install SLIP in a next-station I'll take home in the next weeks and I nedd your help with this: 1> what 14.4 K modems do you guys recommend (if possible real cheap modems!) 2> what modem cable do I need?? is the modem cable for the next serial port special?? 3> what SLIP software do you guys recommend?? thanks a lot for your help!! E-mail answers are great. -- Pedro J. Moreno (Speech Group) Ph.D. Student Electrical and Computer Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA. pjm@stevens.speech.cs.cmu.edu [NeXTmail is OK]
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Monitor pinout problem. Help! Date: 14 Mar 1994 16:40:59 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m242r$f9a@netnews.upenn.edu> Our NeXT Cube monitor went blind, and we are on the verge of purchasing another.However, prior to doing so, I want to test the cable. This is what I got. All pins have signal flow to pins on the othert side w/ same numbers except#7. #7 has no flow whatsover to any other pin. Is this okay? I know that this could be quite normal, but I'm not sure, since so much (power, kb, mouse, mic) uses this 19pin cable. Any IMMEDIATE help would be appreciated. Cheers. Rimon Huque rhuque@turbo.kean.edu rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu
From: wright@LAA.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help..no ethernet Date: 14 Mar 1994 16:55:32 GMT Organization: Lynn-Arthur Associates, Ann Arbor, MI Message-ID: <2m24u5$5s7@nigel.msen.com> I have lost the ability to use my 10Base-T ethernet connection and suspect that the problem is the Ethernet Thin-wire connector has broken off. It was broken off while being transported. Actually the CPU chip fell out also, but it works fine after being restored to its socket. I don't need the thin-wire connector, but I'm worried that its absence may have changed the behavior of the circuit so that I can't use the 10Base-T connection. Can you advise me? Is the missing connector a likely source of the problem? If so, how should I repair it? Restore the connector? Jumper it? Carl A. Wright Lynn-Arthur Associates, Inc. +1 313 995 5590 wright@laa.com Operations Support Systems +1 313 995 5989 (fax) 2350 Green Road Suite 160 Ann Arbor, MI, 48105 USA
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: need info about modems Date: 14 Mar 1994 18:21:16 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m29us$d0e@news.iastate.edu> References: <CMnszw.13E.3@cs.cmu.edu> Pedro J Moreno writes []Hi Guys [] []I am planning to install SLIP in a next-station I'll take home in the []next weeks and I nedd your help with this: [] []1> what 14.4 K modems do you guys recommend (if possible real cheap modems!) [] []2> what modem cable do I need?? is the modem cable for the next serial port []special?? [] []3> what SLIP software do you guys recommend?? [] [] []thanks a lot for your help!! [] []E-mail answers are great. Unfortunately, E-mail to you bounces because of the "+" in the address above I guess (although I get HOST UNKNOWN, which indicates other problems). Anyway,here is what I wrote to you with: Pedro: 1) I would strongly recommend that you get either a Supra FAXmodem or else a Zyxel. The Zyxel is a little better, but also costs a little more. My Supra has worked beautifully since day one, right out of the box. If you read and/or post on comp.dcomm.modems you can find out who is selling these cheapest by mail. My guess is that you can come in at about $175 for something that will last you a lifetime and you will be able to FAX, dial in, dial out, etc. etc. 2) The NeXT modem cable must support hardware flow control. Call NeXT-connection and order one. About $15 and they ship it overnight (AND IT'S BLACK :) 3) Since you are using a NeXTstation (as I have) I would strongly suggest you use the Transys DIALUPIP software availalbe on the archives. Took me about a day to get it installed, start to finish, including dialing scripts and the like. Has worked perfectly ever since, and SLIP represents the SINGLE BIGGEST improvement I have made in my NeXT-life. I would also suggest you consider getting the shareware application SLIPCommander. There is a demo on the archives. Once SLIP is installed SLIPCommander provides a nice NeXT GUI that makes SLIP pretty much transparent. It flushes mail queues, fetches your mail once per day at a user-settable time, can perform backup by tarring, compressing, and offloading the file, etc. etc. Well worth the $15-20 student cost. Tell me if I can provide more information. Best ---Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer) Subject: SUMMARY : Help With HP LaserJet 4M Printer Message-ID: <1994Mar14.181236.115079@yuma> Date: 14 Mar 94 18:12:36 GMT Keywords: summary laserjet printer original post: > my group is investigating the hp laserjet 4m printer. > in old NeXTanswer listings, there are references to > tweaking the cables on hp printers. i'm wondering > if anyone is successfully using this printer on black > hardware and if so, what kind of cable did you get and > from whom? well, i've got two options. thanks to mark dadgar and clifford bowers for the email help! they both said to get an Emulex NetJet or Jet-Direct card that sets the printer up as a node on the ethernet. then you use the method outlined in NEXTSTEP in Focus, Summer 1993 to set the printer up with NetInfoManager. if anyone would like this article, reply to me and i will NeXTMail it or ascii mail it to you. cost for board is between $450 and $550. i do not know if the above two board names are one and the same. the price given is for the first. the other option is that i found a serial cable that will do the job from our (used to be) NeXT hardware person on campus. not sure if he'll have to rewire the printer side of the cable or not. cost - ~11 bucks. so, to speed or not to speed is the question. i'm sort of hedging on the net card a bit because my floor is over the limit on ethernet length and close to if not over node limit. but, we can always rewire eh? heh heh heh kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: BENCHMARKS - DEC XL 566, w/Viper PCI (32MB RAM/535MB SCSI) Date: 14 Mar 1994 18:50:36 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m2bls$clc@inxs.concert.net> From one of our new DEC XL Systems taken this weekend at our show: Machine: DEC XL 566 (Pentium) CPU/Speed/Cachesize: Pentium/66Mhz/256K Videoadaptor: Viper PCI (Beta Driver) Comment: Lightning Fast Integer Performance: 89285 dhrystones/s (56.69 MIPS) Grafics Performance: 1.1508 (NXFactor 2.0) __________________________ Mach kernel version: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 Kernel configured for a single processor only. 1 processor is physically available. Processor type: I386 (Intel 586) Processor active: 0 Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes. Default processor set: 37 tasks, 77 threads, 1 processors Load average: 0.01, Mach factor: 0.97 -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ***** INSTANT APPROVAL ON POs ORIGINATING FROM SCHOOLS and GOVT. AGENCIES *****
From: bchin@hesta.com (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Laptop/Notebook Wishlist Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:08:27 GMT Organization: Hesta Properties, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m25mb$f3t@corporate.hesta.com> References: <2lt56c$cv1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> In article <2lt56c$cv1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu (Chuck Waltrip) writes: > ... I thought I'd describe my ideal notebook and see if anybody knows > of someone offering or about to offer my dream machine (I thought this > belonged in the advocacy group since I'm "advocating" some particular > characteristics for a notebook/laptop computer Do you want this to be battery powered??? I'm interested in 6-8 lb, 2-4 hour battery life laptops. From the feature list below, you must be talking about A/C powered lunchboxes. Dolch has a A/C powered lunchbox that has a lot of the features you want, but the price is steep. Toshiba has the T6600 that has a lot of the features you want, but is also A/C powered and expensive. > My list is not in priority order: > 1. Fast processor. At least 486DX/2 66 MHz. >> M << 486DX4 is coming to laptops, even battery powered ones. NEC has announced the 75mhz Versa. A big problem with "speed" on laptops is that most of them don't come with *any* external CPU cache. This probably drains 10%-20% of the CPU power. I wish NEC would add even a 32 or 64 kbyte SRAM cache to the Versa. 60mhz PA RISC would be nice too. :-) > 2. Fast internal bus (VLB or, preferably, PCI). >> O* << optional with caveats While there is no room in a battery powered laptop for internal slots, I'd like to be able to plug the laptop into a docking station that has PCI or VLB. It probably isn't practical to run VLB from the laptop all the way out to the docking station, especially at 33mhz. They would either have to go to PCI or run the VLB slot has a much lower frequency. How about a 16mhz 32bit VLB spec for laptop docking stations? That can't be all that expensive to add to existing laptops that have docking stations. Of course, some of the laptops have local bus graphics on-board already - so the need for local bus otherwise is somewhat diminished. If they got local-bus SCSI on board too, then they wouldn't really need an external local bus solution. I know one of Dolch's lunchboxes is VLB. > 3. At least 32 Mbyte memory (the Cypress offering tops out at 20 Mbytes > and this is probably the main thing that causes me to hesitate). >> O* << optional with caveats I would be happy with 20mb if they added a 64kbyte SRAM cache. Matter of fact, I would prefer the SRAM cache over the added RAM. It's not like I'm going to be doing image processing on my tiny screen. > 4. At least 600 Mbyte internal disk drive. >> O* << Not much they can do beyond what they are doing Again, we are at the mercy of power and size - 2.5" drives have just hit 340mb in size. To do better, you'll have to go to 3.5" drives and much larger power drains. A 500mb low power 3.5" is probably do-able. An A/C portable can, of course, take a 2byte 3.5" drive as long as it's got SCSI. > 5. Built-in Ethernet connector. >> O* << PCMCIA ok - NeXT just has to go support it This would not be all that hard to add to a laptop, but most manufacturers don't see it as a necessity since one can put in a PCMCIA ethernet card for $150. The problem is NEXTSTEP doesn't support PCMCIA (yet). The Toshiba T6600 et al can take an Intel EtherExpress inside. > 6. Built-in, external SCSI connector (would be OK if this were available > via PCMCIA but I'd prefer a built-in, external SCSI-2 connector). > This would be less important if item 8 below were available. >> M << The T6600 apparently works with the Adaptec 6360 driver, which is the same as the Intel Pro-GX SCSI driver. It would make more sense to use SCSI as the only drive interface instead of IDE - better expandability, flexibility, performance. > 7. Internal data/fax modem at least 14.4 Kbps for both data and fax. >> M << Of course. While we're at it, we should add 28.8kbps data, flash ROM upgradability and cellular capability. > 8. Built-in 128 Mbyte MO 3.5" disk drive (256 Mbyte would be preferable). >> U << Battery drain! Of course, on our lunchbox with SCSI, this isn't a problem at all. I like the Versa's ability to drop the floppy drive altogether, and plug a second battery in its place. > 9. Screen. Well, the larger and the higher the density the better (I can > live with 640x480 but sure would like higher density on a bit larger > screen). Grayscale is OK. Active matrix color (or comparable > quality) would be preferable; has to be pretty fast. >> M << LCD screens are getting pretty good - now I want 800x600. 640x480 is just too cramped for NEXTSTEP. Of course, HP charges $11k retail for their 1024x768 LCD screen (not portable). Support for local bus video with 16 bit color on an external monitor is a must!!! The Versa is almost there - but it can only do 1024x768x8bit color on an external monitor. > 10. Built-in microphone and speakers might be nice but I suspect that the > most practical thing might be a jack(s) that you could plug in a > headset earphone/microphone combo. This should make it possible to > use Simon Says. Maybe someone will eventually offer speech > recognition via some PCMCIA device augmentation. >> O << IBM has a neat speaker attachment to some of their laptops. A microphone is no biggie, but speakers are. > 11. A couple of serial ports. > 12. An external mouse port. > 13. At least one parallel port. >> M << Almost everyone has 11, 12 & 13. > 14. A Thinkpad-like pointer; or a pointer similar to the one Apple > will be offering on their new 040 PowerBooks. I'll take a trackball > if I have to--but I'll hate it. Still, an external mouse port would > make it bearable. >> O << Personal preference. I like the trackball for short work sessions - an external mouse is a must for long periods of time. > 15. A stylish design would be nice. >> M << Let good industrial design prevail! > 16. Size: might have to be a bit larger than your typical notebook to > fit all this stuff in and possibly to accommodate a larger screen. > Can't be much larger though. Needs to stay under 8 lbs. >> O << You *are* talking laptop! Drop the 600mb hard drive, MO drive and larger screen, then it might be possible. The luggables are usually 15-20lbs. > 17. Docking station. EISA bus. If an external SCSI-2 connector and an > Ethernet connector are provided on the notebook, the only use for a > docking station is to provide access to the primary (in my opinion) > benefit of the Intel world: some of the EISA/ISA peripherals. >> O << PCI. PCI. PCI. :-) See #2. > 18. Price: fully-loaded, probably needs to stay under $8K. I note that > the new IBM PowerPC-based portable (which does include built-in > audio) costs $12K according to a report on Nightly Business Report. > That's a bit rich, I'm afraid. > Of course, the cheaper the better. $6k for a great laptop is reasonable. My main suggestions to laptop manufacturers are: use local bus video with 16bit 1024x768 external display use local bus SCSI; provide external SCSI port. Both of these won't incur that much more expense. Finally, we need for NEXTSTEP to support PCMCIA. .Bill Chin
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 14 Mar 1994 14:22:36 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2m2dhs$9uq@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MouseMan Cordless, Anyone? Date: 14 Mar 1994 18:55:30 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2m2bv2$rg3@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Has anyone gotten the cordless to work under NSI? The cursor exhibits an extremely jerky motion, making it virtually impossible to do anything. I sure would like to get it to work tho; it'd be great to be free from that damn cord! -- // David Geary "I'm like a full-fledged member of the Hollis crew" // david.geary@mccaw.com // NeXTMail Welcome
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM 17" Trinitron monitor Date: 14 Mar 1994 21:25:39 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2m2koj$j4j@Times.Stanford.EDU> Someone a while back said that the new IBM 17" Trinitron was supposed to be a top-of-the-line 17" monitor, to compete with the better Nanaos, but I can't find any info on anyone selling it in order to compare prices. Is it really worth considering over the NEC 5FGp and the Nanao F560iW? Where would one get it? -Karl
From: excalib!blackbox!chuckb@UCSD.EDU (Chuck Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM SLC66 Date: 14 Mar 1994 15:53:33 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403142152.AA18359@blackbox> Has anyone tried NS on the IBM SLC66 with math-coprocessor? I know it's not officially supported, but a friend has one and is interested in NS. Any experiences? Please respond directly, I get the news digest and don't always read them immediately. Thanks!
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:30:59 EST From: <JTRQC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Message-ID: <94073.183059JTRQC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Swap Disk References: <1.5053.2588.0N27BFAA@satalink.com> <2lt8cd$guh@news.acns.nwu.edu> IF you want to make your drive 0 sd0 into a swapdisk then format the disk /dev/rsd0a and name it swapdisk REMEMBER!!!! you will not be able to boot off this disk!!!! The reason why you would want to format your internal disk is if the computer will be netbooting off of a server machine, thus using your internal sd0 drive as a swapdisk!!! very nice... if you don't have a lot of real memory! Make sure that when you go about doing this that you have booted your machine off of another drive (other than sd0) or off of the network (ben) Then you can use disk program to format your internal drive..... make sure that sd0 is unmounted etc.... you can even boot up in single user mode.... but make sure that you are booting from another drive.... Any help...just ask... James T. Romano Economic & Management Consultants
From: tshores@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas shores) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStep on IBM486SLC2? Date: 14 Mar 1994 23:15:13 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <2m2r61$ev4@crcnis1.unl.edu> Can anyone confirm (from their own experience!) whether or not it is possible to run NeXTStepFIP on an IBM manufactured VLB motherboard with their 486SLC2 and math coprocessor? If so, it sure would make for some inexpensive upgrades to Next capable machines from an AT compatible. Thanks, Tom Shores, Math Dept University of Nebraska
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: ALternatives for Hardware Purchase Repair Exchange Message-ID: <CMoMpI.JGq@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: NeXT, hardware, repair, exchange Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 01:27:16 GMT I understand that there are 3 places to purchase/exchange/repair NeXT Black Hardware. 1) Bell Atlantic 1-800-499-NEXT (6398) 2) Pixelated Technologies 1-800-749-3563 & 310-459-6831 3) Dancing Bear Enterprizes SOMEWHERE IN COLORADO To keep those users interested in maintaining/purchasing/exchanging their black hardware well informed, could anyone with experiences with the above companies please post ( or reply to me ) any information that they have. In particular: In what city is Dancing Bear Enterprizes?? And: Are there any other companies/individuals who re[ar Are there any other companies/individuals selling/exchanging/repairing NeXT black hardware? Thanks, David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quantum PD1800S and NeXT black Date: 14 Mar 1994 17:55:49 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2m34j5$sls@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> I saw a post for Quantum 1.8gb PD1800S harddrives. The price was pretty amazing, and I'm thinking about buying. Does anyone have any idea as to whether these drives are compatible to a NeXT turbostation? Any up or downside info much appreciated. thanks, -Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "When all else fails, | | Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 keep the blue | | Long Beach, CA ***NeXTstep on black*** side UP!" |
From: tbou1@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (TROY BOULTON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A question... Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 02:28:24 GMT Organization: Monash University Distribution: world Message-ID: <tbou1.6.2D851D48@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au> References: <tbou1.5.2D83D2F2@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au> In article <tbou1.5.2D83D2F2@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au> tbou1@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (TROY BOULTON) writes: >From: tbou1@mfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (TROY BOULTON)>Subject: A question... >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 02:58:58 GMT >Okay, this may seem a little odd to you, but ever since I saw the NeXT, I >have, as your typical computer nut, been very interested in the system. >Problem is, I have not been able to hear too much information here about the >NeXT, and want confirmed (hopefully killed, actually) a rumour that the NeXT >is no longer produced in hardware. I know that NeXT-Step runs on Intel >machines now (I think) - but do they still make those sexy NeXT boxes (and I >don't mean Cubes) anymore... > (If they do, I can retain my fantasy about one day owning a NeXT).. >Thanks > ___________________ > Yort an Arts/Science Person > > @ Monash Melbourne Australia NB: Thanks to all who so prompty replied: the information was greatly appreciated. I am sorry, but I am having a hell of a lot of trouble E- mailing most of you to say thanks). Everything is getting spat back ate me due to illegal addresses. Don't ask me why (if you can tell me why, feel free to do so!) As Above :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shay@netcom.com (Christian Shay) Subject: Help! Trying to install on Dell OmniPlex! Message-ID: <shayCMoutw.6nG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 04:22:32 GMT Anyone know anything about the "Dell OmniPlex 566", and specifically how NeXTStep might take to making itself at home in that configuration? Well, I recently have gotten a chance to install NextStep on a friends Pentium. I hope we can make it work, but the closest thing I saw to it in the Nextanswers list was "Dell OptiPlex". Anyway, I have tried to install on the thing but it claims not to be able to see the CD-ROM, asks me to specify the "root device" and then panics and forces a reboot if I type anything in..... Anyone have any ideas, or know anything about this particular Dell? Thanks for helping a rank novice, Christian shay@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Message-ID: <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com Organization: Walking Dog Design Inc. References: <2m0l0r$fi2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:18:39 GMT In article <2m0l0r$fi2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> waters@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Waters) writes: > John Todd (jtod@access1.digex.net) wrote: > : Bill Chin (bchin@clt.fx.net) wrote: > > : : Newer Technology has just released a 68040 accelerator for Mac > : : Quadras. Why is this interesting to NeXT owners? Because this > : : 50mhz 68040 accelerator sits in the 68040 socket and only > : : the 68040 socket. It is not a Nubus or PDS card like most Mac > : : accelerators are. This means there is a chance that it would > : : work in a NeXT. Has anyone tried it? I just got a fax > : : on the dimensions of the card, and it looks like it might > : : fit. The dimensions are: 4.65" x 2.2" x 1" tall. One might > : : have to remove the floppy drive and stick it outside the case of > : : a station. I don't have a cube handy to see if there's enough > : : room there. > I really doubt that this will work on a NeXT. The reason is that the Mac doesn't use a lot of the facilities of the 68040 (ferinstance, it always does autovectored interrupts) that the NeXT uses. Accelerator designers typically don't include a full set of emulations for an accelerator, just the ones that are needed. Another major factor is that the NeXT (especially turbos) has a much more agressive memory system than the Mac and I doubt that an asyncronously connected buss could keep up with the burst from memory. Sorry to rain on everyone's parade here but hopefully I'll have some good news on this front soon... Matt -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Brandt | If the people will lead matt@drefla.mese.com | then the leaders will follow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Problems with Buslogic 445S SCSI controller Message-ID: <1994Mar15.063010.300@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 06:30:10 GMT In a word,..... AARRRGGGG!!!!!! I just got a new BusLogic 445S SCSI controller and am trying to put it in my system. I downloaded the new adaptec driver from NeXTAnwsers(the docs for the driver say it supports this card) and installed it on the machine. Then I put the card in and tried to boot. The card is recognized by the software but the card refuzes to see the drive so it bombs with an exception when it trys to find root. The card will boot dos fine off the same disk. PS I kept the switches on the card to the factory defaults since they where set up the same as the adaptec 1542B that I'm removing from the system. Same IO ports same interrupts, etc. Anyone have any ideas... Its 12:30am and I'm about at the end of my rope here.... -- jerald dawson*Systems Manager / Head Programmer*Investor's Advantage NeXTmail-jerald@mrk.com |"To compel a man to furnish contributions of phone - (708) 487-3221|money for the propogation of opinions which he fax - (708) 526-3635|disbelieves is sinful and tyranical" Thomas Jefferson
From: stan@cs.sfsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Repair Service for HP97548SN 660Mb SCSI disk Date: 15 Mar 1994 08:18:42 GMT Organization: SFSU Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <2m3r12$hsm@news.csus.edu> Keywords: HP SCSI DISK REPAIR A disk drive we purchased from NeXT a few years back no longer returns data reliably. Is there a repair service for these? A reliable source told me that since this drive is made by HP, it should be possible to have it repaired. I was also cautioned that the repair costs will be high and we should plan on buying a replacement. Advice or suggestions would be appreciated. -- Stan Osborne, Computer Science Department, SFSU Internet: stan@cs.sfsu.edu Voice: (415) 338-2168
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: miron@extropia.wimsey.com (Miron Cuperman) Subject: HELP: Keyboard problems, NS/I Message-ID: <1994Mar15.090931.740@extropia.wimsey.com> Organization: Immortal Freedom's Deck Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:09:31 GMT I am trying to install NS/I on my 486 clone. The motherboard is an OPTI 486DX-33. The keyboard locks up with "Unexpected RESEND from keyboard" printed repeatedly, after the kernel starts. The keyboard controller chip says on it "80c42 V1". Is this chip known to work? I tried three different keyboards. -- Miron Cuperman <miron@extropia.wimsey.com> | NeXTmail/Mime ok Unix/C++/DSP, consulting/contracting | Public key avail AMIX: MCuperman | Cryptocosmology: sufficiently advanced communication is indistinguishable from noise - god is in the least significant bits. - fnerd
From: gt2780a@prism.gatech.EDU (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to find Memory of a NextDimension Card? Message-ID: <145545@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 15 Mar 94 14:48:17 GMT Sender: news@prism.gatech.EDU Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology I'm trying to upgrade my memory in my machine ('40 cube - NS 2.1), and I can't figure out a way to figure out how much memory I have on my NeXTDimension card. The only thing I get during bootup is: NeXTdimension baord present in Slot 2 NeXTdimension server running (29) Any ideas how to figure out how much memory I have on this board, and would increasing the amount make a significant difference in speed? Thanks, -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology. Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 CSX Transportation. Jacksonville, Florida 32202 Internet: gt2780a@acme.gatech.edu Non-NeXT Mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: kja@stekt15.oulu.fi (Kari Alakuijala) Subject: I pay $250/ea. for used Maxtor 8760S PCBs Message-ID: <KJA.94Mar15165859@stekt15.oulu.fi> Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi Organization: University of Oulu, Department of Electrical Engineering, Finland Distribution: comp Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:58:59 GMT I have a rather ok Maxtor 8760S without a Printed Circuit Board. There is this problem of obtaining a whole PCBs to them, as I fix them and find it too time consuming to debug them. Can you sell me the PCB board from your drive for 250-300 dollars? The media can be broken as I only need the component board. -Kari
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Monitor pinout problem. Help! Date: 15 Mar 1994 16:31:43 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m4ntf$o3n@news.tamu.edu> References: <2m242r$f9a@netnews.upenn.edu> Keywords: pin 7 NC In article <2m242r$f9a@netnews.upenn.edu> rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) writes: | | | | Our NeXT Cube monitor went blind, and we are on the verge of purchasing another.However, prior to doing so, I want to test the cable. This is what I got. | | All pins have signal flow to pins on the othert side w/ same numbers except#7. | #7 has no flow whatsover to any other pin. | | Is this okay? I know that this could be quite normal, but I'm not sure, since | so much (power, kb, mouse, mic) uses this 19pin cable. | | Any IMMEDIATE help would be appreciated. | | Cheers. | | Rimon Huque | rhuque@turbo.kean.edu | rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu It's OK. Pin 7 is not used. -- Walter C. Daugherity Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jpbogers@reks.uia.ac.be (John-Paul.Bogers) Subject: READ ME URGENT Message-ID: <1994Mar15.165844.25121@reks.uia.ac.be> Organization: U.I.A. Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:58:44 GMT Dear Friends, My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of failure was my computer and my modem. I longed to turn my advocation into my vocation. This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day cruise to the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a home on the West Coast of Florida, with a private pool, boat slip, and a beautiful view of the bay from my breakfast room table and patio. I will never have to work again. Today I am rich! I have earned over $400,000.00 (Four Hundred Thousand Dollars) to date and will become a millionaire within 4 or 5 months. Anyone can do the same. This money making program works perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed to earn $50,000.00 or more whenever I wanted. Best of all you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or post office. In October 1988, I received a letter in the mail telling me how I could earn $50,000 dollars or more whenever I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though, when you are desperate, backed into a corner, your mind does crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the want ads for a job with a future. The pickings were sparse at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my computer and calling several bulletin boards. I read several of the message posts and than glanced at the letter next to the computer. All at once it came to me, I now had the key to my dreams. I realized that with the power of the computer I could expand and enhance this money making formula into the most unbelievable cash flow generator that has ever been created. I substituted the computer bulletin boards in place of the post office and electronically did by computer what others were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few letters are mailed manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have waited for all your life, simply follow the easy instructions below. Your dreams will come true. Sincerely yours, Dave Rhodes INSTRUCTIONS Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you will have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours. This program has remained successful because of the honesty and integrety of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. Welcome to the world of Mail Order! This little business is a little different than most mail order houses. Your product is not solid and tangible, but rather a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. (The money made from the mailing lists are secondary to the income which is made from people like yourself requesting that they be included in that list.) 1) Immediately mail $1.00 to the first 5 (five) names listed below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send CASH only please (total investment $5.00). Enclose a note with each letter stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list." For other countries the equvielent amount may be sent, e.g. in Hong Kong Send HK$10 as this is the lowest denomination note. (This is a legitimate service that you are requesting and you are paying $1.00 for this service). 2) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list. Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.) Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10 position. 3) Post the new letter with your name in the number 10 position into 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards in the message base or to the file section, call the file, MAKE.MONEY.FAST. 4) Within 60 days you will receive over $50,000.00 in CASH. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can use it again and again whenever you need money. As soon as you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail order business and people are sending you $1.00 to be placed on your mailing list. This list can than be rented to a list broker that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional income on a regular basis. The list will become more valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws. NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not discard the names and notes they send you. This is PROOF that you are truely providing a service and should the IRS or some other Government Agency question you, you can provide them with this proof! Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the number five position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in cash. 1. Dini Man P.O. Box 98068, T.S.T. Kowloon, Hong Kong 2. Ravi Murjani 3 Henderson Road Jardines Lookout Hong Kong 3. Sanjay Purswani 2-D, Kowloon tong garden, No.1 Cambridge rd., Kowloon, Hong Kong. 4. Pual Law Flat A,11/F Yan Yee bldg., Kin Yip Street, Yuen Long,N.T., Hong Kong. 5. Patrick Wong 9A Fung Yau Street North, Grd Flr Shop 19, Yuen Long,N.T., Hong Kong 6. Ho Chi Kit P.O.Box 428, Tuen Mun Central Post Office, Tuen Mun, NT, Hong Kong 7. Cindy Leung Flat 6, 18/F Yan Yuet House Yan Shing Court Fanling, N.T. Hong Kong 8. Aaron Teche 655 Sellery A Hall 821 W. Johnson St. Madison, WI 53706-1798 USA 9. Thomas Ermesjo Lundsveien 16 1820 Spydeberg Norway 10. John-Paul Bogers Rederijkersstraat 90 2610 Wilrijk Belgium The following letters were written by participating members in this program. To Whom It May Concern: About six months ago I received the enclosed post in letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter within the next two weeks. I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a local bulletin board in Montreal. I liked the idea of giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I, they wouldn't be too quick to part with Five Dollars. But, I buy lottery tickets weekly in my province and have nothing to show for it but ticket stubs. This week I decided to look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the envelopes and mailed out one dollar in each as directed. Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail. The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what happened! I can't say I received $50,000, but it was definitely well over $35,000! For the first time in ten years, I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it didn't take me long to go through my earnings so I am using this excellent money opportunity once again. Follow the instructions and get ready to enjoy. Please send a copy of this letter along with the enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are skeptical that it really works! Good Luck, Charles Kust St Agathe Que. Another letter: I tried a similar program in which the cost was $5.00 per response. In that one the return was about 3%. Since I did not have a modem I sent out letters regular mail. I created a few mailing labels and printed out all of the labels on pressure sensitive tape. The first mailing that I used the $1.00 dollar per reponse approach I started to get return mail in just over one week! I sent out 200 letters instead of 100 that is required if you use the mail instead of the bulletion boards. Additionally, I included as many friends, relatives, classmates, that I could think of in order to encourage their participation if they happened to recognize my name, so my percentage of gain was higher. I am trying again with 500 letters to see if I surpass the $141,000 of the last time. You just won't believe it until you try. Best Wishes, Mark Garner Dallas Texas Additional Notes: This system works equally well if mailed out manually. Mind you it takes more effort to hand address the envelopes and the cost goes up proportionately to cover the postage and envelopes. You must also photo copy the instructions, cross out the name in number one position, write in your name in the number ten slot and change the rest of the numbers accordingly. (It might be neater to use white out or paste over the names.) In order to achieve the same results you must send out the $1.00 dollar to the first five names and then send out another 100 letters with copies of the program enclosed. It has been suggested not to put a return address on the outside of the envelope in order to encourage the recipient to open it. The return will approximate that then received from the posts listed on the bulletin boards. Hello, My name is JP Bogers and I'm playing this game for the third time. The first time I played the postal system and it brought me some 17.500 USD. I bought myself a small sailing boat. The second time, using this system, I earned 23.500 USD. I know, a long way from 50.000, but not bad, huh. I bought a new car. Hello, my name is Steve Prester. As you may have noticed I'm the tenth name on this list, so I do not have a rags-to-riches story to tell here. However, I did make a phone call to the 2nd name on this list, Ernest Goyette. Did he have a rags to riches story to tell? Not exactly, but then I found out that he did not follow the instructions precisely. You see, Ernest lost faith in the program before he had finished following instructions. He only uploaded this file on one BBS, which happens to be operated by Darryl McGinnis, the 3rd name on this list. Ernest told me that he has received $92.00 to date (1/6/90). I realize this is far from the $50,000.00 promised at the first of this file, yet one must keep two things in mind: 1. $92.00 is almost 10 times his initial investment, and it only took about an hour of his time (there's nothing to lose). 2. This program works mathematically on an exponential scale. In other words, for every one BBS that this file is uploaded onto, it should spread to at least ten other BBSs and possibly a whole lot more. So, if Ernest had uploaded his file on all ten BBSs, he should have at least gotten a hundred-fold of what he has, which would be $9200.00. Not bad for a few hours work and a $6.25 investment (including postage). Finally, I would like to exhort those who become involved in this program to maintain its integrity by being honest. It is the only way that it can possibly pay off. In other words, be sure to enter your name at the bottom of the list and not in one of the top five positions (actually this would be robbing yourself since it is while your name is in the lower positions that it gets multiplied exponentially over hundreds of BBSs). And, of course, send your $1.00 off to the first five names. As I write this I have not made a penny (that's because I have not uploaded this yet), but I thought you might like to hear from someone at the bottom of the list, instead of someone claiming rags-to-riches. I hope such is true, and I'm sure it will be if we all stick with it. The potential is definitely here! P.S. Call me if you get rich. Hello, I am the current #10 on the list, I too am sceptical. Well what do we all have to lose. It is worth a try in order to realize some substantial gain. Don't any of you out there want to upgrade your PC's. I certainly do, but can't afford to. I hope that this program will make enough cash in order to buy a super system. Nua Nicaj ---------------------------------------------------- Hey There! Glad your thinking about this seriously because I am! If all these people are making money then why not be included with them and get some also? I'm going to be #10 on this list, and Im uploading it everywhere! If you have the access :) then follow through, upload it, and see what happens! Hey, Imagine earning enough to buy a 486? or one of those high speed modems that cost hundreds of dollars? What about buying your OWN BBS ? Who wouldnt want to be the Sys-Op of their VERY OWN board? I know I wouldnt mind :) What do you have to lose but 5 bucks compared to the hundreds and thousands you CAN make? I know Im down.. Will you be the very next to EARN some cash? Talib Khan ---------------------------------------------------- Hello, I'm Stephanie Kemach and I am now the tenth person on this list. I'm trying out this idea in the hopes that it will pan out, but I've never seen anything like this before. Still, for a meager investment of $5.00, what do any of us have to lose? It's worth a try and I'm trying it out now. Good luck to everyone else who uses this great-looking money-making idea. ---------------------------------------------------- This is John Gibbs, call me Gibber. Stephanie is no longer the last on this list, hopefully I can say the same soon. I agree that the investment is quite meager, let's see if everybody can benefit from it. Just a note that Canadians will be happy to accept American money at par if it is possible. Good luck to all! Bon Chance, Au Revoir. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi this is Jurgen Kreisel, please add my name to the mailing list. I am the new kid on the block as the last person on this list. I have always been told that if it sounds to good to be true it probably is, but what the hay I can blow 5.00 at the video store and get nothing for my money either. Well here goes nothing. ---------------------------------------------------- Hi! I guess I'm now No#10. I have never done anything like this before. I never even reply to chain letters. I guess I am doing this one coz I think its actually gonna work. If it doesn't I simply lose a bit of money (which I probably would have lost at the race meet tommorow anyways). Time to find out if this thing really works.... ---------------------------------------------------- Well gee shucks! ...i guess i'm now the 10th dude on this list, as always u might feel that this is NOT going to work and that people are not gonna start doing this crap and mailing people money, but hey! ...it's only 5 bucks US isn't it? ...what've u got to lose eh? i'm certainly gonna try since right now a bit of money wouldn't be bad while trying to get into a good university with all the hassles of school! ...seeya lateR! =) Sanjay Purswani 09/02/94 --------------------------------------------------- Hi! I guess I'm No#10 now.I think it is a interesting game for me and u to have a money making.I have never heard it before,but,at least,i believed it can let me to upgrade the computer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well! This chain letter can give me a hope ,it just cost me $10. if it is workable,I have many times of this $10.So try this. It is hoped that the result will be appeared as fast as possible. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, I am No.#10.!!!!! I think this chain letter investment is quite interesting......and worthy... So..I try it now.....and It can help anyone to upgrade his computer only by investment of "US$5.00" or "HK$50.00". Finally, Anyone see this mail, please join this activity.. and please be honest!!! Don't add your name at the top 5 instead of the bottom of the mailing list!!!!!!! Furthermore, Please send the money to the first 5 people!!!! Kit, 13/2/1994 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do everyone want to try this!? It is quite interesting. I try it now. Cindy 14/3/1994 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm broke, so here goes nothing [and $5 ;) ] Maybe I'll actually get some money. Send the $1US to the first 5 people!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- J.P. Bogers, M.D. Universitaire Instelling Antwerpen (UIA) Lab Pathology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Why not just run white (Was: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black) Message-ID: <CMown4.3MI@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <espritCMJ1MG.I5J@netcom.com> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 05:01:51 GMT In article <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) writes: #Why not just buy white? Because there is no equivalent of a ND in White. White hardware isn't as integrated as Black and the Black Moto hardware just looks damn good. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fineman@grizzly.cs.washington.edu (Lucifer Sam) Subject: What sort of RAM does PCI want? Message-ID: <1994Mar15.182012.21649@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:20:12 GMT I'm trying to do the buy-a-machine-to-last-forever routine, which is of course impossible. But hey. What i'd like to do, is get a 486 now (relatively cheap), and get a pentium later when they're cheaper. In the ideal world, i'd be able to use every component across the upgrade, besides the motherboard & chip. So: 1 - Will ISA 8-bit cards work on both sides (i.e. adaptec card)? 2 - Will PCI support IDE disks? 2 - Will 4x9 SIMMS work on a PCI board? I'd like to get a cheap 486 now, and yank the board & do the upgrade in about a year or so. I'd like to use the same RAM & disks, and maybe get 64-bit display & I/O later. Any thoughts?
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IBM 17" Trinitron monitor Date: 15 Mar 1994 20:39:53 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2m56ep$20k@news.u.washington.edu> References: <2m2koj$j4j@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: >Someone a while back said that the new IBM 17" Trinitron was supposed to >be a top-of-the-line 17" monitor, to compete with the better Nanaos, but >I can't find any info on anyone selling it in order to compare prices. >Is it really worth considering over the NEC 5FGp and the Nanao F560iW? >Where would one get it? >-Karl That someone was me. IBM direct 1-800-426-2968.
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adapterc 1542CF card Date: 15 Mar 1994 20:50:12 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: Is a Adaptec 1542 CF SCSI card a good idea? Keywords: Adaptec, SCSI, ISA I have a quote from a vendor that specifies the following... "16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller" This is the 1542CF. I was informed by a colleague that these cards are 8 bit because of the ISA bus. Is this true? Seems to me that one would like a PCI SCSI disk controller so that the Pentium system I am putting together (on paper) will stand a chance of being most efficient. However, I see in the Guide that there are no NS/FIP PCI SCSI controller drivers available. Is this going to change? And, would someone please enlighten me if an EISA SCSI controller (and relevant drivers) should be considered as the solution? Thanks in advance, ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,fdn.comp.sys.next From: laurent@caladan.fdn.org (Laurent LECHELLE) Subject: Upgrade 3.2, NeXT printer does not start Message-ID: <1994Mar15.201510.657@caladan.fdn.org> Sender: laurent@caladan.fdn.org Organization: No really organized Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 20:15:10 GMT I've just upgraded to 3.2 for Black Hardware and my NeXT printer does not start when I bott my machine, or when I use PrintManager. What happens ? I remember that this question has already been raised, but I don't remember the solution. Thanks for your help ! -- __________________________________________ | | ____| Laurent Lechelle, Courbevoie, France |____ \ | e-mail: laurent@caladan.fdn.org | / > |__________________________________________| < /_____> NeXT mail welcomed <_____\
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: raven@lclark.edu (Raven Winter) Subject: Weitek Power 9000 Driver? Message-ID: <1994Mar15.200113.19850@lclark.edu> Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 20:01:13 GMT Has NeXT released a driver for the Weitek Power 9000 (ie Diamond Viper-VL) yet. My NEXTSTEP compatibility guede says that is "Planned Q1 94" Well first quarter is almost at an end and I haven't heard anything. If anyone else knows anything about the driver I would like to hear it. thanks, raven -- Internet: raven@lclark.edu Snail-mail: Home: (503) 246-7287 Raven Winter Pager: (503) 948-4028 LC BOX 2159 0615 SW Palatine Hill RD Portland, OR 97219
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Kevin Low) Subject: line conditioner & NeXT Message-ID: <CMq6p7.40w@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8704] Organization: Forest Dynamics/NCFES/USDA-FS Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 21:37:55 GMT Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. I recently purchased a line conditioner for my NeXT Turbo Station (Tripp Lite, LC1800, 1800 w. max output). Someone told me that the NeXT Station has a surge supressor in it already. In an ensuing conversation with Tripp Lite, I discovered that it is unwise to attach a surge suppressed device (the NeXT Station) to this line conditioner. I am not very informed about this subject, so I will quote the tech support person, "If the surge suppressor detects an overvoltage condition, it will run the 'extra' voltage down the ground wire, which leads back to the line conditioner, and that will cause the line conditioner to fry. This would only be a problem if the surge suppressor was located in the power supply. If it is on the motherboard, then there would be no problem." Questions: 1. Where is the surge supressor in the Turbo NeXT station? In the power supply or on the motherboard? 2. Do I need to worry about the possiblity of frying my line conditioner? 3. What other options exist for line conditioners? What should they have or not have to insure they can be operated in conjunction with my Station without damage? -- Kevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Why not just run white (Was: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black) Message-ID: <CMq7w2.4D8@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <CMown4.3MI@infoserv.com> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:02:25 GMT In article <CMown4.3MI@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: >>In article <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) writes: >>#Why not just buy white? >> >>Because there is no equivalent of a ND in White. What about ScreenMachineII ? -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: iwj@white.dogwood.com (Ian Jackson) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CFV: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 15 Mar 1994 18:06:34 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> CALL FOR VOTES comp.sys.next.hardware reorganisation This is a Call for Votes regarding the proposal to split comp.sys.next.hardware into three unmoderated groups, comp.sys.next.hardware.i386, .m68k and .misc. Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on the 5th of April 1994. Please see below for voting instructions and contact information. CHARTERS ======== comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 Computers running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors This group is intended for discussion of hardware topics relating to NeXTstep running on Intel x86 series processors. Appropriate topics include (but are of course not limited to) the various vendors of NeXTstep compatible Intel x86 systems, ISA/EISA/VLB/PCI cards and drivers for such systems and the DriverKit. comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k Computers running NeXTSTEP for NeXT Computers This group is intended for discussion of hardware topics relating to NeXTstep running on Motorola 680x0 series processors. Currently this includes all hardware questions relating to turbo and non-turbo NeXTcube and NeXTstations systems as well as NeXTdimension systems. comp.sys.next.hardware.misc Peripherals and miscellaneous Hardware (renamed from comp.sys.next.hardware) NeXTstep related hardware questions which belong in none or all of the existing processor specific groups belong in comp.sys.next.hardware.misc. Appropriate topics include the discussion of SCSI devices, modems and printers as related to NeXTstep, any topic relating to NeXTstep on new processors for which no processor specific group has yet been created, and many more. If this group is created it will replace comp.sys.next.hardware, which will therefore be removed approximately three months later. Crossposts between any of these three groups are discouraged. A subject appropriate for one of the processor specific newsgroups is by definition inappropriate for the .misc group, and a question which could go to both of them generally belongs in neither but only in the .misc group. RATIONALE ========= As NeXTSTEP has started to support multiple hardware architectures, the articles in comp.sys.next.hardware are clearly split right now. They are unrelated, but happen to be in the same newsgroup; things are going to be even worse when new hardware architectures are supported. This split will help to make reading hardware articles easier, as related articles will be grouped together. People only interested in one hardware architecture don't have to dig through all articles in order to find those they are interested in. The following naming rule for hardware groups has been applied, so that users of NeXTSTEP computers know at once which hardware newsgroup to use: comp.sys.next.hardware.`/usr/bin/arch` (this is the same as the MACH cpu type -- see man 3 arch). This is not ideal, but it is predictable. Fancier names could be chosen, but again, people would have to ask for the correct name of his newsgroup, and this discussion would start again and again with every new hardware architecture. VOTING INSTRUCTIONS =================== YOUR VOTE WILL BE COUNTED BY A PROGRAM. Please use the template below and follow the instructions exactly. If you do not do so your ballot may not be understood and would then be returned to you with your vote uncounted. Send a mail message to iwj-vote@white.dogwood.com, containing this in the body: ballot csnh name XXXXX vote comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 YES/NO/ABSTAIN vote comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k YES/NO/ABSTAIN vote comp.sys.next.hardware.misc YES/NO/ABSTAIN stop Replace XXXXX with your name (not your email address!). Delete YES, NO and ABSTAIN as appropriate to leave your votes. Quoting characters at the start of each line (such as inserted by a newsreader `reply' function) will be ignored. PLEASE NOTE: * Use the template; include all six lines of it, and don't mess it about. * Please don't quote the whole of this Call for Votes in your reply ! NOTES REGARDING VOTING ====================== Your vote must be received by 23:59:59GMT on the 5th of April 1994. There will be one further Call for Votes. You will receive a personal acknowledgement by email. Note that it is your responsibility to ensure that your vote is registered correctly. Everything must be spelled correctly. Your name must be supplied. You may only vote from one account. If you vote from several accounts in an attempt at fraud all your votes may be discounted and your name published. You can request a copy of this Call for Votes by sending: ballot csnh send-cfv stop Please don't distribute mutated voting instructions. This can cause serious problems for the voters who use them and for me as vote taker. If you are in any doubt, please contact me - I'll be very happy to advise you. CONTACT INFORMATION =================== This vote is being handled by Ian Jackson as a neutral third party. Please direct all voting and procedural questions and reports of problems to him at iwj@white.dogwood.com. NOTE! Please send *votes* to iwj-vote@white.dogwood.com ^^^^ Please direct all questions regarding the proposed new group to either one of the proposers, Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> or Carl Edman <cedman@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU>. -- Ian Jackson acting on behalf of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers vote taker for the comp.sys.next.hardware reorganisation votes to iwj-vote@white.dogwood.com correspondance to iwj@white.dogwood.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu (Rob Francis) Subject: Re: Upgrade 3.2, NeXT printer does not start Message-ID: <CMqD9I.n2y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University References: <1994Mar15.201510.657@caladan.fdn.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 23:58:30 GMT In article <1994Mar15.201510.657@caladan.fdn.org>, Laurent LECHELLE <laurent@caladan.fdn.org> wrote: > > >I've just upgraded to 3.2 for Black Hardware and my NeXT printer >does not start when I bott my machine, or when I use PrintManager. > >What happens ? I'm not sure what you mean by "Does not start". In 3.x, NextStep deal with local printers differently. There are new properties called Admin and Device. The easiest way to fix this is to just remove the Local_Printer entry in netinfo and then reboot. It'll build a new (updated) one for you. -rob --- Rob Francis Unix Systems Specialist, University Computing Services Indiana University, francisr@indiana.edu (812)855-0327
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: floppy? Date: 16 Mar 1994 00:46:55 GMT Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University Message-ID: <2m5ktv$m1v@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Mar15.201510.657@caladan.fdn.org> <CMqD9I.n2y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> I've got a PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 that just went south. I actually never use 2.8 mb disks. Does anyone know if PLI SuperFloppy 1.4 drives will work with a NeXT 040 non-turbo cube? Or is there another external SCSI floppy drive that will work? Also, there are some cheap 800K floppy drives out there. Will they work with the NeXT OS? Or am I correct in assuming that the NeXT OS can only read/write 1.4 and 2.8? Please cc your response to david@jaffe.com. Thanks. David Jaffe
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.next-l,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mach and Multiprocessors In-Reply-To: Mark Ericksen's message of Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:44:44 -0700 To: Mark Ericksen <ERICKSEN_M@SALT.PLU.EDU> Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar15155335@capitalist.princeton.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <01H9ZVV4J3C69N48EL@SALT.PLU.EDU> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 20:53:35 GMT In article <01H9ZVV4J3C69N48EL@SALT.PLU.EDU> Mark Ericksen <ERICKSEN_M@SALT.PLU.EDU> writes: I am running NEXTSTEP on an Intel Xpress machine. A unique feature on this board is that the CPU is on a card along with the cashe. If I wanted to change to a true Pentium I can buy the new card, plug it in and go! But is it going to give you a true 64-bit path to main memory ? A special card being developed for this system is a card with two Pentiums. For now it is going to work with Windows NT. Yuk. I would like know how much trouble it would be to get mach to take advantage of more than one processor. Will it do it automatically or is there some recompilation needed? No, currently Mach on the NeXT will not do this, nor will any reasonable amount of work or recompilation on your part change that. As for how much work it would be to NeXT to support multiple processors, without the source I can't tell you and with the source I can't tell you either (but for different reasons). However, considering how strong the MP support in Mach is, I can't imagine that it would be impossibly hard to enable. Conversely very likely it involves some work -- otherwise NeXT would already have done it. But then the actual intersection between the set of machines on which NS runs and the set of MP machines is so tiny that there is little incentive for NeXT to expend any effort in that direction. As both sets and the intersection grows over the next 12 months that may change. In any case don't expect large performance gains for most programs even when NS supports MP. Making most programs written in conventional programming languages take advantage of MP is hard work and will just not be worth the while of most software developers for a handful of dual processor Pentiums. Carl Edman
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why not just run white (Was: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black) Date: 16 Mar 94 00:10:18 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: na Message-ID: <jeffo.763776618@uiuc.edu> References: <CMown4.3MI@infoserv.com> <CMq7w2.4D8@dvorak.amd.com> Bill Chin asked: > Why not just buy white? Kent Shephard replied: >Because there is no equivalent of a ND in White. Ron Pomeroy responded: >What about ScreenMachineII ? I think it comes close, but not close enough to call an equivalent. Last I saw, the SM2: * only worked with certain software (the ND works with the supplied live video object used in a few apps) * did not supply the entire machine with 24+8-bit video [a 24-bit palette with 8 bits of alpha], unlike the ND * doesn't have the same video in ports as the ND (but I don't know if one is a subset of the other) and the SM2 has no video out (as far as I know). * doesn't allow for building a "video wall" if you buy multiple SM2s and put them in the same Intel machine (the ND does this) Overall, I'd say it's good for what it does, but it relies too much on code nobody but the SM2 manufacturer has the sources to and the capability list is shorter than the ND's. -- *NO* NeXTmail please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@ictv.com (Robert Patrick Thille) Subject: Re: IBM 17" Trinitron monitor Message-ID: <1994Mar16.004141.27728@ictv.com> Sender: usenet@ictv.com Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200 References: <2m56ep$20k@news.u.washington.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:41:41 GMT James Bassuk writes > kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > >>Someone a while back said that the new IBM 17" Trinitron was supposed to >>be a top-of-the-line 17" monitor, to compete with the better Nanaos, but >>I can't find any info on anyone selling it in order to compare prices. >>Is it really worth considering over the NEC 5FGp and the Nanao F560iW? >>Where would one get it? > >>-Karl > > > That someone was me. IBM direct 1-800-426-2968. From looking at the one we got with our RS/6000 and the Sony 17-SE1, they are the same. The 17-SE1 ran $1199 from someplace in the back of MacWeek. Robert -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK 660 Bair Island Rd #40 Redwood City CA 94063 PGP Public Key via finger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shay@netcom.com (Christian Shay) Subject: Re: Help! Trying to install on Dell OmniPlex! Message-ID: <shayCMqF2B.DCL@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <shayCMoutw.6nG@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:37:22 GMT As a followup to my own article, I'd like to add that the SCSI adaptor is listed as a "NCR SCSI Adapter SDMS v. 3.0 53c810 PCI rev 2.0" Is it possible to get a driver for this? Or am I hosed? Christian shay@netcom.com
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: READ ME URGENT Date: 16 Mar 1994 03:21:34 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <2m5tvu$jre@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1994Mar15.165844.25121@reks.uia.ac.be> In article <1994Mar15.165844.25121@reks.uia.ac.be>, John-Paul.Bogers <jpbogers@reks.uia.ac.be> wrote: A chain letter. They are illegal in the US. Don't be a fool. Good luck to the person who needs the money (a medical doctor who can't immediately find a job seems odd to me, though). -- [Jess Anderson % anderson@doit.wisc.edu % Network Engineering Technology Group] [Systems Engineering Dept % Div of Information Technology % Univ of Wisconsin] [Room 3130 % 1210 West Dayton Street % Madison WI 53706 % Phone 608/262-5888] [-------------> The writer should never be ashamed of staring. <--------------]
From: jmonroe@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (jennifer monroe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI pro 2mb problem + more. Date: 15 Mar 1994 20:06:04 -0600 Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2m5pic$kqc@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Hello everyone. I noticed a lot of "what hardware" posts. Well get this. I recently installed NS 3.2 on a Packard Bell! It had EVERYTHING on the motherboard including the local bus graphics chips. It strengthened my faith in the operating system. It cost me $1400 for 486DX2/66 and a 400 mb seagate hard disk that wasn't suppose to work. (info from NeXTanswers@next.com) I had some problems, but hey! I didn't keep the system cuz ... It was a packard bell! Now, I'm running an AcerPower 486vt with all standard stuff like 1542CF, etc. Absolutely no problems installing. I do have one querk. I have the ATI Ultra Graphics Pro w/2MB Local bus. I seem to have an echo, shadow on the display. I'm sure it's not the monitor cuz I'm running my macintosh on the same monitor, at the 17" resolution. I noticed the querk when I tried the card with windows at 1024x768. I thought it was windows. But now I think it's the card. Is that normal? I have it set at 72Khz, 16 bit color, and it's not too bad, but I would like it to be as sharp as the macintosh. Any suggestions? Maybe I have a defective card? Thanks in advance. Jin jinwkim@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu or jinkim@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Adapterc 1542CF card Message-ID: <CMr1CE.n2n@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: Adaptec, SCSI, ISA Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:38:37 GMT In article <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: >I have a quote from a vendor that specifies the following... > >"16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller" > >This is the 1542CF. I was informed by a colleague that these >cards are 8 bit because of the ISA bus. Is this true? No, it's 16. Also, unless you plan on running a server it's more than fast enough >Seems to me that one would like a PCI SCSI disk controller so that >the Pentium system I am putting together (on paper) will stand >a chance of being most efficient. However, I see in the Guide that >there are no NS/FIP PCI SCSI controller drivers available. Is this >going to change? Probably, but I don't see the need for it. It's overkill. How many HD's would even keep up? None. >And, would someone please enlighten me if an EISA SCSI controller >(and relevant drivers) should be considered as the solution? Not unless you are running a server, in my opinion. VL/ISA or PCI/ISA is the way to go. VL/ISA is less expensive. -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mach and Multiprocessors Date: 16 Mar 1994 08:46:19 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m6h0r$qu6@yarrina.connect.com.au> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar15155335@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Mar15155335@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In any case don't expect large performance gains for most programs > even when NS supports MP. Making most programs written in > conventional programming languages take advantage of MP is hard work > and will just not be worth the while of most software developers for a > handful of dual processor Pentiums. > Maybe. I would assume that Mach is capable of handing different threads to different processors. Therefore, simple things like running two program at once would give you a speed increase of nearly 100% (It's not quite linear, but probably would be close to it in this case). Another option NeXT might have is to run the Window Server on Processor A, and other apps on Processor B. This is a kludge, but would give some performance benefits. (Doesn't the NeXT Dimension card do this??) I agree with Carl that it may be diffcult to take advatage of MP *for some programs*. Others, especially those which make good use of threads, with an operating system to support handing different threads to different machines, can realise performance benefits without much pain at all. Cameron. --- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley cdb@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. Ltd. Fax +61-3-696-6757 222 Park St., Phone +61-3-696-2490 South Melbourne VIC, 3206 Australia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 05:04:49 GMT This reorganization is I think a very good idea (as you probably have gathered from my co-sponsorship of the proposal). While the existence of a newsgroup affects tens or even hundreds of thousands of readers, generally only a few hundred people vote on each group, so each vote has a large impact. Groups regularly fail to be created (or are created) by a small handful of votes either way. So please vote and please vote yes on all three proposals. With a decent news reader it should take you less than 60 seconds. Carl Edman
From: argon@starburst.umd.edu (James Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeSTSTEP on a PC? Date: 16 Mar 1994 11:37:05 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <2m6r11$39h@gamera.umd.edu> I know you have all seen this befor, but I need to know what the Hardwaer rec's are to run NeXTSTEP, I have a 486 DX2/50 with 12 Meg's of RAM, a Soundblaster CRROM and 16 bit soundcard. I also have a 245Meg HD and a Viva 14.4 Modem. AND a SYDOS 105 Meg removable HD. Thank you for your help... -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lord Argon the Paladin | | "if you live for the present, argon@starburst.umd.edu | tomorrow will take care of its self" | ____________________________________|_________________________________________
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Date: 16 Mar 1994 13:02:52 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss Intel hardware- specific issues: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware--which itself has EIGHT subgroups. (There are also already appropriate places to discuss PA-RISC and SPARC hardware issues.) There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss the DriverKit-- comp.sys.next.programmer. There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss SCSI devices-- comp.periphs.scsi There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss modems-- comp.dcom.modems etc. etc. etc. Experience has shown that this type of split only results in a degraded signal/noise ratio, a rise in inappropriate crosspostings, readership segmentation, and desertion by the "experts" best qualified to answer YOUR burning questions. I urge all of you to vote NO, NO, NO on these three ill-conceived proposals. But first--read the articles in news.announce.newusers. Even the "old timers" could use a little refresher. -=EPS=-
From: wright@LAA.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help..no ethernet Date: 16 Mar 1994 15:14:41 GMT Organization: Lynn-Arthur Associates, Ann Arbor, MI Message-ID: <2m77p2$49a@nigel.msen.com> References: <2m24u5$5s7@nigel.msen.com> In article <2m24u5$5s7@nigel.msen.com>, wright@LAA.COM writes: >I have lost the ability to use my 10Base-T ethernet connection and >suspect that the problem is the Ethernet Thin-wire connector has >broken off. It was broken off while being transported. Actually >the CPU chip fell out also, but it works fine after being restored >to its socket. > >I don't need the thin-wire connector, but I'm worried that its >absence may have changed the behavior of the circuit so that I >can't use the 10Base-T connection. > >Can you advise me? Is the missing connector a likely source of the >problem? If so, how should I repair it? Restore the connector? >Jumper it? > A gentleman from Bell Atlantic was kind enough to call me and discuss my problem. He told me that the thin-wire connector is vulnerable because it sticks out the box and frequently breaks off. He also said that the circuitry checks the thin wire and 10Base-T connectors to determine which has a connection. With the thin wire connector broken off it will probably not properly detect the connector which has a signal. He also urged me to check the circuit board for broken circuit traces. We discussed how much it would cost to have Bell Atlantic and I'm trying to decide if I can handle the problem. Carl A. Wright Lynn-Arthur Associates, Inc. +1 313 995 5590 wright@laa.com Operations Support Systems +1 313 995 5989 (fax) 2350 Green Road Suite 160 Ann Arbor, MI, 48105 USA
From: dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 16 Mar 1994 16:56:51 GMT Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London, England Message-ID: <2m7doj$46l@jake.micromuse.co.uk> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> Eric P. Scott (eps@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote: : There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss Intel hardware- : specific issues: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware--which itself has : EIGHT subgroups. (There are also already appropriate places to : discuss PA-RISC and SPARC hardware issues.) Great... and get all the noise from all the DOS and Windows and whatever else goes on in there. There should be a place to talk about NextStep on PC hardware..... And in turn, that seperates out the M68K stuff.... : Experience has shown that this type of split only results in a : degraded signal/noise ratio, a rise in inappropriate : crosspostings, readership segmentation, and desertion by the : "experts" best qualified to answer YOUR burning questions. When I find myself having to sift through the hardware group to figure out which is PC related (absolutely no interest to me) and which is Black hardware related, then the time has come for something to be done to the hardware group. NextStep is an operating system. As an operating system, it has an *intimate* relationship with hardware. As NextStep is a multiplatform OS, shoving everything through one group just creates a different form of noise. -- ============================================================================ dj@micromuse.co.uk |"I'm a loser, Baby, so why don't you kill me?" Beck Voice +44-81-875-9500 |"I've seen the future, I can't afford it" ABC ------------------------+--------------------------------------------------- Non-standard Disclaimer : "I didn't do it, it wasn't me, I wasn't there"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: The new ATI mach64 graphics card Message-ID: <1994Mar16.190722.23605@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:07:22 GMT Does anybody know if the new ATI mach64 graphics card will work with NS/i under the mach32 drivers? It's the end of the year and budgets need to be depleted so I would like to get the best video card while there is the money to do it. greg
From: Mark G. Tacchi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with Buslogic 445S SCSI controller Date: 16 Mar 1994 16:53:51 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2m7div$7is@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Mar15.063010.300@mrk.com> In article <1994Mar15.063010.300@mrk.com> jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) writes: > I just got a new BusLogic 445S SCSI controller and am trying to put it in my > system. I downloaded the new adaptec driver from NeXTAnwsers(the docs for the > driver say it supports this card) and installed it on the machine. Then I put > the card in and tried to boot. The card is recognized by the software but the > card refuzes to see the drive so it bombs with an exception when it trys to > find root. The card will boot dos fine off the same disk. You may have incompatible ROMS. Give them a call and ask them to send you the NEXTSTEP comapatible ROMS. Their number is (408) 492-9090. -Mark -- Mark G. Tacchi System Support Engineer NeXT Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: )))SOUND((( Message-ID: <1994Mar16.194611.28776@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:46:11 GMT Does anyone have any experience w/ the MS soundboard (16-bit) under NSi?? It looks like I will be returning my PAS16 for this board, for increased performance under NSi on my eCesys machine. Thanks. bp -- =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Subject: CDROM Message-ID: <1994Mar16.194401.28650@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:44:01 GMT Can I add just about any old SCSI CDROM drive to my system (486- based 66MHz NSi machine), what with my current DPT SCSI board? Or does the actual DRIVE have to be "supported" by NSi? bp -- =-------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson | NeXTSTEP | SheBitch: "I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!" = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu |Intel v3.2| Ash: "...Come get some." = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu |A RELIGION| -Army of Darkness =
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Date: 16 Mar 1994 23:36:34 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2m8562$2u3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <2m7doj$46l@jake.micromuse.co.uk> In article <2m7doj$46l@jake.micromuse.co.uk> dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan) writes: >Great... and get all the noise from all the DOS and Windows and >whatever else goes on in there. There should be a place to >talk about NextStep on PC hardware..... >And in turn, that seperates out the M68K stuff.... >When I find myself having to sift through the hardware group to >figure out which is PC related (absolutely no interest to me) and >which is Black hardware related, then the time has come for something >to be done to the hardware group. The problem I see with the hardware newsgroup reorganization is that pretty soon we will have to add .sparc, .pa-risc, .alpha, .powerpc, etc. I don't think it is that terribly difficult to filter out questions regarding intel vs. motorola, like the above paragraph describes. So I don't think it is time to split the hardware groups. I think it would cause more confusion than it's worth (we already have 10 nextstep newsgroups, adding three more will result in people not keeping track of all the zillions of groups, and incorrect cross-postings will occur, I think). Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "James "Mike" Conley" <conley@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Power for Abaton FAX modem Message-ID: <1994Mar16.190541.20177@news.cs.indiana.edu> Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 19:05:36 -0500 I've got an Abaton FaxModem that I used in Europe and now that I'm in the US of A, I'd like to use it again. Unfortunately I no longer have 220V to supply it with. Does anyone know what the pin-out for the adapter in the back is supposed to be? Needless to say, I also have no documentation as I bought it "as is." Since I doubt this is of general interest, e-mail would be appreciated. James "Mike" Conley
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic GD54xx -- whats the status? Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:50:22 Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis Message-ID: <nemiroal.100.000ED75C@bus.orst.edu> Hi, I remember seeing some posts about success with the GD54xx chipset (S3 compatible I think). What exactly is the story with this chipset. We have 50+ machines with this chipset built into the motherboard (HP Vectra 486/66VL) Does this video chipset work with NeXTStep? What are the supported resolutions/color depths? Thanks in advance. -Aleksander Nemirovsky
From: shenley@sunshine.net (Steve Henley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: floppy? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 17 Mar 1994 01:40:55 GMT Organization: Wimsey Information Services Message-ID: <shenley-160394172920@dialip152.gov.bc.ca> References: <1994Mar15.201510.657@caladan.fdn.org> <CMqD9I.n2y@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <2m5ktv$m1v@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <2m5ktv$m1v@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) wrote: > I've got a PLI SuperFloppy 2.8 that just went south. I actually never use > 2.8 mb disks. Does anyone know if PLI SuperFloppy 1.4 drives will work with > a NeXT 040 non-turbo cube? Or is there another external SCSI floppy drive > that will work? Also, there are some cheap 800K floppy drives out there. > Will they work with the NeXT OS? Or am I correct in assuming that the NeXT > OS can only read/write 1.4 and 2.8? > > Please cc your response to david@jaffe.com. Thanks. > > David Jaffe I have recently managed to scrounge up what is probably one of the last DIT Cube Floppy Plus'. I am running it on an 030 cube under NS 3.1. This unit identifies itself under NS as a PLI SuperFloppy. Not only that but I can successfully use it on a Mac with the PLI Inits where it is also recognized as a PLI SuperFloppy. The only unresolved problem I have is formatting previously formatted disks as NeXT format. I don't think if you have a SCSI-2 to DB 25 cable with your 2.8 drive you should have any problems using the PLI SuperFloppy 1.4. The DIT version of the drive also ships with the right cable for turbo machines. The going rate from Mac mail order vendors seems to be around 320 US. Hope this helps.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Split of group: YES -- w From: tim.romano@dscmail.com (Tim Romano) Distribution: world Message-ID: <1.5273.2588.0N27C0DE@dscmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 15:36:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 Most come here to ask questions not about hardware per se, but about hardware insofar as it is running NeXTstep. So telling us to go to ibm.pc or sparc or wherever simply means you want to get rid of non-black hardware questions. That is NOT an honest attempt to help users of NeXTstep on other hardware platforms, and is not in the best long-term interests of the operating system, in my view. If we split the group by the broadest-based platform division, things won't get too fragmented for their own good. Remember, this is .hardware not .programming, where such a division would not make sense. Name the subgroups whatever you want, but this broad platform-based division makes good sense and will bear up well over time: NeXT Intel HP SPARC PowerPC Alpha Vote YES for the split. Tim Romano TEL: (610) 543-2222 Swarthmore Pennsylvania EMAIL: tim.romano@dscmail.com --- ~ CmpQwk #UNREG~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Split of group: YES -- w From: tim.romano@dscmail.com (Tim Romano) Distribution: world Message-ID: <1.5275.2588.0N27C0DF@dscmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 17:56:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 Most come here to ask questions not about hardware per se, but about hardware insofar as it is running NeXTstep. So telling us to go to ibm.pc or sparc or wherever simply means you want to get rid of non-black hardware questions. That is NOT an honest attempt to help users of NeXTstep on other hardware platforms, and is not in the best long-term interests of the operating system, in my view. If we split the group by the broadest-based platform division, things won't get too fragmented for their own good. Remember, this is .hardware not .programming, where such a division would not make sense. Name the subgroups whatever you want, but this broad platform-based division makes good sense and will bear up well over time: NeXT Intel HP SPARC PowerPC Alpha Vote YES for the split. Tim Romano TEL: (610) 543-2222 Swarthmore Pennsylvania EMAIL: tim.romano@dscmail.com --- ~ CmpQwk #UNREG~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which ethernet card? Date: 17 Mar 1994 03:18:25 GMT Organization: Me Message-ID: <2m8i61$sbr@news.tamu.edu> I remember seeing posts on this subject, but never paid much attention because I didn't need the info. Which ethernet card has proven to be the least problematic for NS/I machines? If it matters, my machine is as follows: AMI Enterprise III (EISA/VLB) DX2 66 MHz AMI Bios ATI Ultra Pro VLB 2MB DPT 2012 SCSI controller 32 MB RAM Seagate ST11200N 1 GB NeXT CD-ROM Zoom 14.4 fax modem (internal) Thanks Lusty
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Split of group: Where do we vote? Date: 17 Mar 1994 03:38:04 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m8jas$898@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1.5275.2588.0N27C0DF@dscmail.com> In article <1.5275.2588.0N27C0DF@dscmail.com> writes: > Vote YES for the split. Where and when do we vote? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization In-Reply-To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU's message of 16 Mar 1994 13:02:52 GMT To: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar16110251@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 16:02:51 GMT In article <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss Intel hardware- specific issues: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware--which itself has EIGHT subgroups. (There are also already appropriate places to discuss PA-RISC and SPARC hardware issues.) [ ... and more of the same ... ] Experience has shown that this type of split only results in a degraded signal/noise ratio, a rise in inappropriate crosspostings, readership segmentation, and desertion by the "experts" best qualified to answer YOUR burning questions. Yes, yes, yes and by the same argument the entire comp.sys.next hierarchy should never have been created. After we can discuss all these things in comp.os.mach -- a couple thousand articles a week all in one group on all subjects including what today is discussed in .advocacy and .marketplace and even a couple posts regarding Mach having nothing at all to do with NeXT. Yes, I'm sure that would have increased signal/noise ratio, reduced inappropriate crosspostings (no, really !), and there'd have been many more experts willing to read and reply to all those posts. Or at the very least c.s.n.hardware should never have been created as you've shown that virtually every single article here really belongs in a different group. Should all those misguided souls who post here or who read this newsgroup consider themselves flamed by you ? Seriously, any proposed reorganization of the Usenet stands and falls by one single question: Will it on average allow users to find more articles of personal interest to them in less time ? Look at the readership of c.s.n.hardware. How many actually have or are interested in several different hardware categories ? Certainly there are a few, but most users are interested only in problems on the one platform which they own or intend to own. Now go back through your c.s.n.hardware news spool. Look at every article. For almost every single one of them you can decide easily that it would not be of interest to a predictable segment of the readership (those with a different hardware platform). So logically it follows that splitting c.s.n.hardware along these lines will reduce the time spent reading news for most c.s.n.hardware readers while keeping the amount of information useful to any one reader constant. So by this standard the proposals pass. Finally, let's consider the worst case. Let's imagine that right after the reorganization all NS/Moto users get an NS/FIP machine for Christmas and vice versa and that emulation technology becomes available which makes all these machines appear identical even on the hardware level. So suddenly all post to c.s.n.h.* are crossposts to all the groups. But crossposts require only a minimal amount of additional network bandwidth or disk storage so on this point nothing has changed. Users for all of the c.s.n.h.* groups will see posts on all the hardware platforms but with any modern news reader they'll only do so once -- just as they do today. So nothing will be worse than today ! Clearly, I do not believe that this will happen, nor does any one else except for you. But even if it did, we would not have lost anything we have today. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization In-Reply-To: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU's message of 16 Mar 1994 23:36:34 GMT To: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar16225833@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <2m7doj$46l@jake.micromuse.co.uk> <2m8562$2u3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 03:58:33 GMT In article <2m8562$2u3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes: In article <2m7doj$46l@jake.micromuse.co.uk> dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan) writes: >Great... and get all the noise from all the DOS and Windows and >whatever else goes on in there. There should be a place to >talk about NextStep on PC hardware..... >And in turn, that seperates out the M68K stuff.... >When I find myself having to sift through the hardware group to >figure out which is PC related (absolutely no interest to me) and >which is Black hardware related, then the time has come for something >to be done to the hardware group. The problem I see with the hardware newsgroup reorganization is that pretty soon we will have to add .sparc, .pa-risc, .alpha, .powerpc, etc. We will only do so if the volume justifies it. Until then the proposal specifies clearly that all discussion of such platforms belongs in comp.sys.next.hardware.misc. I don't think it is that terribly difficult to filter out questions regarding intel vs. motorola, like the above paragraph describes. If there was a simple way to write kill files which filter out m68k/i386 postings much of the motivation for the split would be gone. As things are it is almost impossible to mechanically recognize the majority of posts as belonging into either category or none. So I don't think it is time to split the hardware groups. I think it would cause more confusion than it's worth (we already have 10 nextstep newsgroups, adding three more will result in people not keeping track of all the zillions of groups, and incorrect cross-postings will occur, I think). Cross posts do not cost any significant amount of hard disk space, network bandwidth or (with any modern news software) reader time. Even in the worst of all possible cases of every single article in every single of the comp.sys.next.hardware.* groups being cross-posted to every single other comp.sys.next.hardware.* group (a rather unrealistic proposition to start with) and every single reader being subscribed to all the comp.sys.next.hardware.* groups, we (or the net) wouldn't be one iota worse off than we are today with just a one comp.sys.next.hardware group. Still, the proposal discourages crossposts and the names of the groups are rather self-explanatory. If any poster follows that advise, we have a net gain over the current situation. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Mach and Multiprocessors In-Reply-To: cdb@xedoc.com.au's message of 16 Mar 1994 08:46:19 GMT To: cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar16102830@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar15155335@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m6h0r$qu6@yarrina.connect.com.au> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 15:28:29 GMT In article <2m6h0r$qu6@yarrina.connect.com.au> cdb@xedoc.com.au (Cameron Bromley) writes: In article <CEDMAN.94Mar15155335@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In any case don't expect large performance gains for most programs > even when NS supports MP. Making most programs written in > conventional programming languages take advantage of MP is hard work > and will just not be worth the while of most software developers for a > handful of dual processor Pentiums. Maybe. I would assume that Mach is capable of handing different threads to different processors. Therefore, simple things like running two program at once would give you a speed increase of nearly 100% (It's not quite linear, but probably would be close to it in this case). Yes, that would clearly be the most simple way to take advantage of MP. It also has the virtue of running unchanged on SP systems. The problem is that most of the user perceptible running time of most program (i.e. those parts of the execution which when speeded up would actually give the user the impression of higher speed) are tight loops of some form or another in just one thread. MP systems won't help in that case. Frequently it is possible to change those loops so that they can be run in parallel on multiple processors but that is what I meant by hard work. Another option NeXT might have is to run the Window Server on Processor A, and other apps on Processor B. This is a kludge, but would give some performance benefits. (Doesn't the NeXT Dimension card do this??) Yes, that is the one special case in which MP might actually gain you real perceptible performance improvements for most programs. Many display intensive programs are split almost evenly in CPU usage between the program itself and the window server. Exactly in the case of 2 CPUs you might very well get a significant boost in perceptible performance for these programs. Of course many programs don't require much heavy lifting from the window server and a third CPU wouldn't help in any case. I agree with Carl that it may be diffcult to take advatage of MP *for some programs*. Others, especially those which make good use of threads, with an operating system to support handing different threads to different machines, can realise performance benefits without much pain at all. Yes, but how many programs take advantage of threads today ? In particular, how many programs actually split their CPU intensive tasks into multiple threads in contrast to the more common practice of having a processing thread which does all the work and a user interface thread which keeps the program responsive at all times ? I'm sure there are a few but I can't think of any right now. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: CDROM In-Reply-To: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu's message of Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:44:01 GMT To: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar16173427@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994Mar16.194401.28650@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 22:34:27 GMT In article <1994Mar16.194401.28650@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) writes: Can I add just about any old SCSI CDROM drive to my system (486- based 66MHz NSi machine), what with my current DPT SCSI board? Or does the actual DRIVE have to be "supported" by NSi? No, just about any SCSI CD-ROM will do, just as virtually every SCSI hard disk will do. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) Subject: Re: IBM 17" Trinitron monitor Message-ID: <1994Mar16.235400.519@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center) Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR. References: <2m2koj$j4j@Times.Stanford.EDU> <2m56ep$20k@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 23:54:00 GMT In article <2m56ep$20k@news.u.washington.edu> bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: >kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > >>Someone a while back said that the new IBM 17" Trinitron was supposed to >>be a top-of-the-line 17" monitor, to compete with the better Nanaos, but >>I can't find any info on anyone selling it in order to compare prices. >>Is it really worth considering over the NEC 5FGp and the Nanao F560iW? >>Where would one get it? > >>-Karl > > >That someone was me. IBM direct 1-800-426-2968. In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video someone mentioned PC Direct and Computer Discount Warehouse. You'd need to look up the numbers in something like Computer Shopper mag. -- --Mike \ "Better than most, michael.cox@torreypinesca.ncr.com / not as good as some..." - Mr KFI
From: jfields@pinball.arcade.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need setup help with Quantum PD1800S Date: 17 Mar 1994 03:19:18 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m8i7m$a91@nexus.uiowa.edu> I'm having trouble formatting and putting a filesystem on my new Quantum PD1800S. It's a 1.8 gig SCSI drive. Here is what I know: Termination: This isn't it...the the drive has active termination, and it's the only external SCSI device in the chain. SCSI ID: Factory set to 6. This isn't it. SCSI1/SCSI2: According to the program 'sdformat', this is indeed a SCSI2 device, but the dealer says that the drive should auto-sense the signals from the SCSI bus and adapt accordingly. Also, sdformat did seem to succeed in doing a low-level format. Disktab: One person told me that I'd need an /etc/disktab entry. Of course, the info in /etc/disktab says that BuildDisk is now able to auto-detect SCSI geometry, so I can't see why a disktab entry is needed. Nevertheless, this seems to be the only option left. --- So. Could some kind soul please send me info on how to get this thing up and running, and/or provide me with the info I need to write a disktab entry? I'd be VERY thankful... Jeff Fields University of Iowa (please email me any info...I'll summarize to the group)
From: smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 17 Mar 1994 08:22:44 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m940k$eaj@nntp.crl.com> References: <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> In article <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) writes: > > I really doubt that this will work on a NeXT. The reason is that the Mac > doesn't use a lot of the facilities of the 68040 (ferinstance, it always does > autovectored interrupts) that the NeXT uses. Accelerator designers typically > don't include a full set of emulations for an accelerator, just the ones that > are needed. Another major factor is that the NeXT (especially turbos) has a > much more agressive memory system than the Mac and I doubt that an > asyncronously connected buss could keep up with the burst from memory. > > Sorry to rain on everyone's parade here but hopefully I'll have some good news > on this front soon... > We've had a series of consultations with engineering staff at Newer regarding this board, which could be a boon to us black birds. The good news is: 1) There is a chance that the Newer board will fit onto the Cube motherboard without much modification. 2) It may be ncessary to that board be "Sphericized" so it will run in another slot that provides clearance for the CPU cooler 3) It is just conceivable that it will fit into the Station. The bad news is: 1) It will work only with 25 mhz hardware at this time. 2) Matt's analysis may well be right--it seems logical. To make a determination, we've ordered the proper board, and will be testing it beginning tomorrow. If it can be made to work, Spherical will be distributing it to the NeXT community at competitive prices. For those folks with soldered-in '040's, we'll offer a swap program. We'll post to the net with the results of this research. If it does work, we'll run some benchmarks and post these as well. Please, no email or phone calls yet--more information is on its way. Sam -- Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919--voice 415-381-9556--fax
From: dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 17 Mar 1994 09:07:28 GMT Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London, England Message-ID: <2m96kg$aok@jake.micromuse.co.uk> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <2m7doj$46l@jake.micromuse.co.uk> <2m8562$2u3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Eric M Hermanson (zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) wrote: : In article <2m7doj$46l@jake.micromuse.co.uk> dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan) writes: : >When I find myself having to sift through the hardware group to : >figure out which is PC related (absolutely no interest to me) and : >which is Black hardware related, then the time has come for something : >to be done to the hardware group. : The problem I see with the hardware newsgroup reorganization is that pretty : soon we will have to add .sparc, .pa-risc, .alpha, .powerpc, etc. When they come.... I do find it a pain to have to read through all the subject lines, trying to decide if they are appropriate and more often than not, even if they look appropriate, they may not be. Of course, the misc group could take up the slack and handle the as yet unavailable ports when they arrive. If the traffic is high for a platform, make a new group.... Until then, don't worry, and just get in a functional split now. -- ============================================================================ dj@micromuse.co.uk |"I'm a loser, Baby, so why don't you kill me?" Beck Voice +44-81-875-9500 |"I've seen the future, I can't afford it" ABC ------------------------+--------------------------------------------------- Non-standard Disclaimer : "I didn't do it, it wasn't me, I wasn't there"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) Subject: Anyone get USR sporster to work ? Message-ID: <boonlow.763912925@sfu.ca> Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news) Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 14:02:05 GMT Hey guys, Anyone get USR Sporster modem to fax under NSFIP ? I tried faxing but all I got was error, can't fax messages ? Also, what does the modem type meant ? DOes it meant that the tyoe of modem used ? It has something like USD or something ? If yes, does NS support only 2 types of modem then ? Thanks for info provided. Ben.
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adapterc 1542CF card (Addressing > 16MB?) Date: 17 Mar 1994 09:01:58 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <2m9rd6$jvp@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> References: <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> <CMr1CE.n2n@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: Adaptec, SCSI, ISA In article <CMr1CE.n2n@utstat.toronto.edu>, Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote: >In article <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: >>I have a quote from a vendor that specifies the following... >> >>"16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller" >> >>This is the 1542CF. I was informed by a colleague that these >>cards are 8 bit because of the ISA bus. Is this true? > >No, it's 16. Also, unless you plan on running a server it's more than >fast enough > >>Seems to me that one would like a PCI SCSI disk controller so that >>the Pentium system I am putting together (on paper) will stand >>a chance of being most efficient. However, I see in the Guide that >>there are no NS/FIP PCI SCSI controller drivers available. Is this >>going to change? > >Probably, but I don't see the need for it. It's overkill. How many HD's >would even keep up? None. > >>And, would someone please enlighten me if an EISA SCSI controller >>(and relevant drivers) should be considered as the solution? > >Not unless you are running a server, in my opinion. VL/ISA or PCI/ISA is >the way to go. VL/ISA is less expensive. > Can I take it then that NSFIP knows not to try to address > 16MB with an Adaptec? It seems like enough people are using it that this would be obvious, but I'd like to check. -- Randy Kunkee Houston, TX 713-870-1334 kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse rollers Message-ID: <CMrtH9.G07@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> <CMJ3tM.H2F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <2ltvrm$s3f@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 18:46:20 GMT In article <2ltvrm$s3f@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh) writes: >In article <CMJ3tM.H2F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, >> >>when new.) When my mouse gets sticky, I pull off the gunge with >>tweezers, then wipe all three rollers with rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip. >>Then all is well. >> > > For really tough gunge infestations, I find that > some Ronsonol lighter fluid on a cotton swab does > wonders. I've found it to be safe as far as not > harming/discoloring the plastic. > [munch] For any cleaning job, the fluid of choice is isopropyl alcohol. Lighter fluid, methyl or ethyl alcohol and many other organic solvents are likely to damage anything that isn't metal. Rubbing alcohol is usually a mixture of isopropyl alcohol and water which is both better and worse than pure isopropyl alcohol. Better, because it removes water soluble contaminants as well, worse because it leaves moisture, which can cause rust, leakage paths, etc. I keep two squeeze bottles (bought from my local university chemistry store) one with 100% pure isopropyl alcohol, one with a 50/50 mixture of water and isopropyl. The latter is used is water might cause immediate problems, or as a follow up to the first to get rid of the water. david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse rollers Message-ID: <CMrtM8.G26@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <1994Mar11.184208.17362@cs.cornell.edu> <CMJ3tM.H2F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <2ltvrm$s3f@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 18:49:19 GMT In article <2ltvrm$s3f@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> mcculla@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve McCullagh) writes: >In article <CMJ3tM.H2F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, >> >>when new.) When my mouse gets sticky, I pull off the gunge with >>tweezers, then wipe all three rollers with rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip. >>Then all is well. >> > > For really tough gunge infestations, I find that > some Ronsonol lighter fluid on a cotton swab does > wonders. I've found it to be safe as far as not > harming/discoloring the plastic. [munch] Ooooops! I used the word "latter" when I meant the word "former" in connection with pure isopropyl alcohol versus 50/50 isopropyl alcohol and water. It is the pure isopropyl that I use to remove traces of moisture after using the 50/50 mixture (naturally). david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: pait@usp.br (Felipe M. Pait) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Know about G.E.C.? (make NS-compatible systems, Mesa, AZ) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 17 Mar 1994 14:30:50 GMT Organization: Universidade de Sao Paulo Message-ID: <2m9pir$nor@bee08.uspnet.usp.br> References: <2l2u83$qet@vw-4.dtd.com> Leland Woodbury (leland@dtd.com) wrote: : There's a company called G.E.C. (Mesa, Arizona) that has a regular : full-page ad in NeXTWorld Magazine for their NeXTStep compatible 486 : system. : They *sound* good, but does anybody have any experience with G.E.C. : and/or with their machine? They are pleasant and knowledgeable on the phone, also. I ordered a machine from them, have to wait for the results. Now, does anyone know if they use e-mail? That would be a very handy way to reach them from out-of-country. Felipe M Pait
From: jng@comp.hkbc.hk (Dr. Joseph Ng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which display card and Network card? Date: 17 Mar 1994 07:26:13 GMT Organization: HONG KONG BAPTIST COLLEGE Message-ID: <2m90ml$19p0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I am going to set up a NeXT machine and wonder which display card is better? S3-805, or ATI Ultra Pro. At this moment, my demand is a 16bit color screen at 800x600 resolution. Please post or email your advice. I also have a question on network card, I have a 3C509 from 3Com, but someone have suggested me to choose either SMC Elite or Intel EtherExpress. Again, could someone enlighten me? Please post it here, because these are FAQs. I try to find the answers from ftp.next.com, but I can't get anything conclusive. Anyway, thanks in advance. --Joseph Ng-- jng@comp.hkbc.hk Yes, I am from Hong Kong and will stay after 1997, too.
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Know about G.E.C.? (make NS-compatible systems, Mesa, AZ) Date: 17 Mar 1994 12:02:41 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <2ma2fh$ido@panix.com> References: <2l2u83$qet@vw-4.dtd.com> <2m9pir$nor@bee08.uspnet.usp.br> I just bought a machine from them, and I am very, very satisfied. The only caveat that I can come up with is that the default monitor (I forget the manufacturer) does not display full NeXTStep resolution very well (the dot pitch makes the image a little fuzzy). If I had it to do over again, I would go for the Nanao T560i (which is a _great_ monitor) - Dave
Control: cancel <CMq6p7.40w@news.cis.umn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lowxx003@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Kevin Low) Subject: cancel <CMq6p7.40w@news.cis.umn.edu> Message-ID: <CMtJJB.AtJ@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8704] Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:07:56 GMT Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ET4000/W32 color support Message-ID: <2m9s4p$k7k@wehil.wehi.edu.au> From: odonohue@oahu.ludwig.edu.au (Mark O'Donohue) Date: 17 Mar 1994 15:14:33 GMT Organization: The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research Several of the color "verified" systems use the ET4000/W32i local buss card, but the standard driver included in NeXTStep 3.2 seems to only support a black and white mode. Is there another driver? and if so how can I get hold of it? And if not how do they get the color to work. Thanks in anticipation Regards Mark O'Donohue odonohue@ludwig.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: leadedge@world.std.com (Leading Edge) Subject: Couple of questions on 030 Message-ID: <CMtLuw.Hyv@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:56:54 GMT I just upgraded to 16 megs of 70ns memory, and the ROM monitor reports 16Mb - 100ns. There were not any jumpers, and I didn't see any setting that I could change to adjust the memory speed. Is there a way to get it to realize the memory is faster, and more importantly, does it matter. I'm planning on hooking the machine up to a Novell network (running tcp/ip for the benefit of other UNIX machines). The only manuals I have mention an ethernet kit, is this simply a BNC T-conn, and terminator? Lastly, just to satisfy curiosity, there is an empty 144 pin socket on the motherboard. Was this left open for upgrade, and if so, what goes there? If any of the above is in the FAQ, just point me in that direction. Thanks. -Erik Swimm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: henkp@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Henk Peek) Subject: Black hardware documenation request (Re: black hardware monitor and printer switchoff) Message-ID: <1994Mar17.191732.23194@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl> Organization: NIKHEFK References: <1994Mar12.185507.3492@rivers> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 19:17:32 GMT In article <1994Mar12.185507.3492@rivers> acs_goray@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes: >Hi. > I have a couple of questions relating to my new used blackbox >hardware regarding powering up and down > >1) I do not wish to run my laser printer all the time as it is >somewhat noisy, is there a better way than the power plug to control >if it is on or off? > >2) I would like to be able to turn my monitor off without powering >down the cpu, is there any way to do that? perhaps a low level >program. I like also to turn the black b/w monitor off without switching the computer off. Can someone help me on some lowlevel documentation? Schematics and/or hardware description or other usefull information? >thank you all you gurus :) > >Jason.Goray@uwrf.edu > >-- > Henk Peek henkp@nikhefk.nikhef.nl
From: andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Query: Bernoulli 150 Date: 17 Mar 1994 11:47:03 -0800 Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Message-ID: <2mac3n$nkf@nic.cerf.net> Does anyone know if the Bernoulli "MacTransportable MultiDisk 150" would work on a NeXT? It sells for $519.95 at MacWarehouse --- a really good price IMHO.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller) Subject: WANTED: Jumper settings for HP disk Message-ID: <CMtsJ5.Kz8@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 20:21:04 GMT WANTED Jumper settings/configuration for HP 3 1/2" 1GB Hard Disk Drive Model C2247 to work in black hardware. REWARD: Authentic Swiss Army Knife in NeXT black! -Florian
From: jdawson@sashimi.wwa.com (Jerald W. Dawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Thank You Date: 17 Mar 1994 14:54:53 -0600 Organization: Computing Engineers Inc. Home of WorldWide Access (SM) Message-ID: <2mag2t$6bi@sashimi.wwa.com> Hi all, I would like to thank all the kind folk who took time out of their busy day to email me the fix for getting my buslogic card working. Just in case someone doesn't know. You need to downgrade the ROMs and Firmware to version 4.5 and 3.31 respectively. Once again, thanx. BTW, the buslugic card (445S on the VLBus) is about as fast as a DPT 2012 EISA. I'm hoping it will be a little more stable but I guess time will tell. I haven't done any benchmarks yet. I'm basing my comment on how the system feels. --- THE WORLD'S FIRST 3D SIGNATURE!!! To VIEW: Display THIS signature on 2 580x400 pixel (8 plane) screens whilst crossing your eyes and striking yourself about the head with a billard queue ball. See it? Neither did I the first time. But now I see it all the time...... (stolen from usenet) jerald dawson*Systems Manager / Head Programmer*Investor's Advantage
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel memory upgrade problem on Gateway 66-V Date: 17 Mar 1994 23:17:35 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2maoef$cm8@wave.aoml.erl.gov> I know there has been past discussion of this problem on various Intel systems but couldnt find it in NeXTanswers or the FAQ. We just upgraded from 16 to 32 MB of memory in the Gateway but only 16 is recognized. Could someone refresh my memory on how this problem is solved? Thanks. -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: drmikey@d0xs2.fnal.gov (Mike Tartaglia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Query: Bernoulli 150 Date: 17 Mar 1994 23:52:45 GMT Organization: Fermi National Lab/D-Zero Experiment Distribution: world Message-ID: <2maqgd$fid@fnnews.fnal.gov> References: <2mac3n$nkf@nic.cerf.net> In article <2mac3n$nkf@nic.cerf.net>, andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee) writes: >Does anyone know if the Bernoulli "MacTransportable MultiDisk 150" >would work on a NeXT? It sells for $519.95 at MacWarehouse --- a >really good price IMHO. I purchased a Bernoulli 150 at the end of '93, and it was *trivial* to set up and use with my NextStation. There was one minor problem with it: the drive "goes to sleep" if not accessed for something like 1/2 hour, and next time addressed it would forget its label. I fixed this short-term with a simple shell script that addressed the disk (by doing a directory) every 1/2 hour. However, it's now been fixed satisfactorily by replacing a ROM chip in the drive (also trivial) which IOmega shipped to me free of charge after I called their service number. MT
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Using PC MIDI hardware from SoftPC Date: 18 Mar 1994 00:12:17 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2marl1$kq4@cs.ubc.ca> Has anyone tried to access "non-NEXTSTEP" hardware from SoftPC? What I'd like to do is access my MIDI/SMPTE card (MQX-32M) from my music sequencer (Cubase/Windows), under SoftPC? Since (I assume) that NEXTSTEP won't even know about this card, SoftPC should be able to address it without conflicts. Is there any way to install Windows drivers for hardware that NEXTSTEP doesn't know about? Or am I completely out to lunch for thinking I can use a UNIX system for timing-critical sequencing in the first place? (Much less a PC emulator on a UNIX system!) -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Just any CD ROM **WILL NOT** work Date: 18 Mar 1994 00:25:38 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mase2$69i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16173427@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Mar16173427@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > No, just about any SCSI CD-ROM will do, just as virtually every SCSI > hard disk will do. I bought a NEC SCSI CD ROM and had to return it because it was incompatible with NextStep (3.2 on black hardware). I'm afraid I don't remember what model number of NEC it was. In any case, I advise you to buy your CD ROM from a store with a refund policy. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) Subject: Re: Couple of questions on 030 Message-ID: <CMu7yv.Jtn@cc.umontreal.ca> Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews) Organization: Universite de Montreal References: <CMtLuw.Hyv@world.std.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 01:54:29 GMT Leading Edge (leadedge@world.std.com) wrote: : I just upgraded to 16 megs of 70ns memory, and the ROM monitor reports : 16Mb - 100ns. There were not any jumpers, and I didn't see any setting : that I could change to adjust the memory speed. Is there a way to get it : to realize the memory is faster, and more importantly, does it matter. According to the FAQ, 70ns memory in 030 or 040 (25 mhz) cubes makes no difference in speed from 100ns. Only next turbo cubes and color stations can use the faster memory. : Lastly, just to satisfy curiosity, there is an empty 144 pin socket on the : motherboard. Was this left open for upgrade, and if so, what goes there? Thats probably for the 72 pin SIMM for the DSP memory expansion. You won't need the extra memory unless you are foolin around with MusicKit 4.0. : If any of the above is in the FAQ, just point me in that direction. : Thanks. : -Erik Swimm Odisseas Kosmatos
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <1994Mar18.005036.4648@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 00:50:36 GMT In article <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@cs.sfsu.edu writes: >There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss Intel hardware- >specific issues: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware--which itself has >EIGHT subgroups. (There are also already appropriate places to >discuss PA-RISC and SPARC hardware issues.) Hear, hear! The proposal is flawed. I'm disappointed that the proponents completely ignored my alternate suggestions, particularly the idea of following the lead of csiph.* and factoring by peripheral rather than CPU type. I'm voting against, but the ayes seem to be in abundance. Oh well, when you aye voters win, have patience with us poor folk who will be forced to crosspost to several different subgroups (3 now, more later, not even counting csiph.*) to ask a question about a common peripheral. Yeah, yeah, cross-posting doesn't bother you, but I get routinely flamed every time I do it, and I only do it when I'm forced to by circumstances. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DEC XL Server Specs Date: 18 Mar 1994 02:34:31 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mb3vo$fu1@inxs.concert.net> Received from Digital yesterday afternoon along with the hardware... (THESE ARE NOT SHIPPING IN QUANTITY, however we have five in the base configuration available now, Pentium 66MHz: [retail pricing is listed]: OVERVIEW: The DECpc XL Server is a family of high-performance, upgradable, PCI/EISA-based servers aimed squarely at organizations who not only want superior file and print services today, but who require the ability to grow and expand their networks for the applications of tomorrow. Digital's new family of DECpc XL Servers gives customers a broad range of choices and flexibility in key areas such as support for major operating systems -- NetWare, Windows NT and SCO UNIX; processors -- i486DX2, Pentium 60MHz and 66MHz and future Intel and Alpha AXP processors; and peripherals. The DECpc XL Server was designed to ensure that the significant investment customers make today will not be obsolete tomorrow. SYSTEMS: DECpc XL Server 466 - 66 MHz i486DX2 - 8 MB RAM - 128 KB cache - 535 MB Fast SCSI disk DECpc XL Server 560 - 60 MHz Pentium - 16 MB RAM - 256 KB cache - 535 MB Fast SCSI disk DEC pc XL Server 566 - 66 MHz Pentium - 16 MB RAM - 256 KB cache - 1 GB SCSI disk * Standard dual speed CD-ROM, keyboard, mouse and floppy disk drive (all systems) HIGHLIGHTS: Modular design: upgradable from i486 DX2 66 MHz to Pentium 60 MHz or 66 MHz processors PCI/EISA Architecture Runs all major server operating systems: NetWare, Windows, Windows NT and Windows NT/AS, SCO Open Desktop, SCO Network Systems, SCO Enterprise Systems, VINES, PATHWORKS, NeXTstep STANDARD FEATURES: Integrated Graphics Graphic controller with 512 KB of video RAM, upgradable to 1 MB Supports 800 x 600 x 256 colors or 1024 x 768 x 16 colors Integrated Device Interfaces Floppy disk (2 devices) IDE interface (2 devices) CD-ROM Drives 5.25 inch 600 MB SCSI (Dual Speed) Slots 7 total, all bus masters 4 EISA 2 PCI 1 EISA or PCI Bays 9 drive bays maximum 1 3.5 inch front access (floppy drive installed) 1 5.25 inch front access CD-ROM installed (base configuration) 1 5.25 inch front access half height available 4 - 1.6 internal half height or 6 - 1.0" internal low profile Ports 1 parallel (ECP/EPP) 2 buffered 16550 serial 1 keyboard 1 mouse 1 graphics Certified Software Operating Systems NetWare Windows and Windows for Workgroups WindowsNT WindowsNT Advanced Server UnixWare SCO Open Desktop, SCO Network System, and SCO Enterprise System Future Supported Operating Systems Banyan VINES Digital PATHWORKS NeXTstep IBM OS/2 Power 300W 5V/3.3V switchable (110V/220V) Security Mechanical chassis lock Floor tether Lockable front door Power on and keyboard passwords Dimensions Height: 488 mm (19.2 inches) Width: 190 mm (7.5 inches) Depth: 470 mm (18.5 inches) Weight: 18 kg (39.6 lbs) base configuration Country Accessory Kit 101/102-key keyboard, documentation, and power cord Other Standard Features PS/2 type, 2 Button Mouse FCC-B, UL, CSA, CE/VCC/CISPR-22 and NORDIC approvals WARRANTY: 3 year On-Site Warranty POPULAR OPTIONS: Processor Upgrades Zero-Insertion-Force (ZIF) socket for Intel Pentium OverDrive procressors.* Pentium 60 Mhz upgrade kit* Pentium 66 Mhz upgrade kit* Memory Choice of 8, 16, 32 or 64MB SIMMs Cache Memory 128 KB Upgrade (i486) Floppy Disk Drives 3.5 inch 1.44 MB, 2.88 MB 5.25 inch 1.2 MB Hard Disk Drives IDE: 340 MB Fast SCSI: 535 MB (1.0"), 1 GB (1.0", 1.6"), 1 GB (1.6") Fast and Wide, 2 GB (1.6") Tape Drives 500+ MB * SCSI; 525 MB QIC (SCO,DOS,OS/2), 2/4 GB RDAT Adapters EISA Fast SCSI EISA Fast SCSI RAID controller levels (0,1,5) Monitor 14 inch VGA monochrome 14 inch VGA color 17 inch 1280 x 1024 color non-interlaced low-emission Network Interface Card PCI Ethernet EISA Ethernet and Token Ring ISA Ethernet and Token Ring Graphics Upgrade 512KB graphics DRAM, upgrades graphics to 1 MB, 1024 x 768 x 256 colors PCI (Diamond Viper) graphics card (1024 x 768) Multiport Adapters ISA 16 port serial host adapter and concentrator (expandable) PRICING: (Base configuration) DECpc XL Server 466 $ 3,699 DECpc XL Server 560 $ 4,699 DECpc XL Server 566 $ 5,399 * When available Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ***** INSTANT APPROVAL ON POs ORIGINATING FROM SCHOOLS and GOVT. AGENCIES *****
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: DEC XL Server Specs [more info] Date: 18 Mar 1994 03:01:22 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mb5i2$gd1@inxs.concert.net> References: <2mb3vo$fu1@inxs.concert.net> In article <2mb3vo$fu1@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes: > Received from Digital yesterday afternoon along with the hardware... > > (THESE ARE NOT SHIPPING IN QUANTITY, however we have five in the base > configuration available now, Pentium 66MHz: [retail pricing is listed]: > DECPC XL SERVER HIGHLIGHTS o High performance, Pentium based PC offering the maximum in upgradability and flexibility at industry leading cost-per-seat in network server or multiuser environment o Maximum features and modularity, offering both PCI local bus and EISA, total of seven slots, and up to nine bays o Planned upgrade path supporting future Intel and Alpha AXP offerings PRODUCT DESCRIPTION The DECpc XL server meets the requirements of users who want a choice in operating systems and peripherals and who want the assurance that the significant investment they make today will not be obsolete tomorrow. The DECpc XL server features: o Ultra high performance, taking advantage of today's most advanced Pentium technology, the Pentium 66 MHz. The server is also available in Pentium 60 MHz and i486DX2/66 MHz versions. All three power levels are available in base or kernel configurations. o Integrated Fast/Wide SCSI, offering a bandwidth of up to 20 Mbytes per second. This is coupled with a new, 1 Gbyte Fast/Wide drive, so you can expect maximum I/O performance. o PCI/EISA (Extended Industry Standard Architecture) technology, allowing the DECpc XL server to offer the highest performance peripherals management in any small server: a PCI local bus for the fastest CPU independent performance, and EISA to support the widest possible range of existing options. o Expandability in a mini-tower package -- The DECpc XL server offers a total of seven slots (four EISA, two PCI, and one EISA or PCI slot) and up to nine bays, three of which are front accessible and either four or six (depending on drive height) are easily accessed through a simple-to-remove side panel. o A power supply that accepts inputs of either +5V or +3.3V. o A three year onsite warranty direct from Digital or a local reseller. BENEFITS o A choice of CPU performance with daughtercard technology, providing ease of upgrade along with an outstanding level of investment protection. o An array of bus technology and industry leading optional peripherals, providing outstanding power in a mini-tower configuration. The DECpc XL server can be configured at cost-sensitive levels with outstanding choices. o A standard dual speed SCSI CDROM, providing convenience in loading the operating systems and all operating system drivers. KERNEL AND BASE CONFIGURATIONS o DECpc XL server i486DX2/66 MHz kernel: - DECpc XL server chassis - Intel 486 processor family, i486DX2/66 MHz CPU - 128 Kbyte onboard second level cache - Upgradable to Pentium overdrive in upgrade socket (ZIF) or to full Pentium via a daughtercard replacement - 3.5 inch, 1.44 Mbyte FDD - Onboard PCI/EISA 7870 SCSI controller - Onboard video controller - Two serial ports (buffered FIFO) - One parallel port (ECP/EPP) - Seven slots (four EISA, two PCI, one interleaved) - Three accessible bays (two 5.25 inch half-height, one FDD) - Four or six drive bays, easy access (drive height dependent) - CDROM boot disk, ECU, user registration disk, diagnostics - Threeyear onsite warranty o For a DECpc XL server i486DX2/66 MHz base configuration, add: - Mouse - 8 Mbytes of RAM - 535 Mbyte Fast SCSI-2 HDD - Dual speed SCSI CDROM o DECpc XL server Pentium/60 MHz kernel: - DECpc XL server chassis - Intel Pentium 60 MHz CPU - 256 Kbyte onboard second level cache - Upgradable to Pentium 66 MHz via a daughtercard replacement - Remaining components the same as in the above kernel system o For a DECpc XL server Pentium/60 MHz base configuration, add: - Mouse - 8 Mbytes of RAM - 535 Mbyte Fast SCSI-2 HDD - Dual speed SCSI CDROM o DECpc XL server Pentium/66 MHz kernel: - DECpc XL server chassis - Intel Pentium 66 MHz CPU - 256 Kbyte onboard second level cache. - 3.5 inch, 1.44 Mbyte FDD - Onboard PCI/EISA 7870 SCSI controller - Onboard video controller - Two serial ports (buffered FIFO) - One parallel port (ECP/EPP) - Seven slots (four EISA, two PCI, one interleaved) - Three accessible bays (two 5.25 inch half-height, one FDD) - Four or six drive bays, easy access (drive height dependent) - CDROM boot disk, ECU, user registration disk, diagnostics - Three year onsite warranty o For a DECpc XL server Pentium/66 MHz base configuration, add: - Mouse - 16 Mbytes of RAM - 1.06 Gbyte Fast SCSI-2 HDD - Dual speed SCSI CDROM Order No. Description DECpc XL Server Kernel Configurations: FR-791WW-A9 DECpc XL Server 466: i486DX2/66 MHz kernel configuration FR-793WW-A9 DECpc XL Server 560: Pentium/60 MHz kernel configuration FR-794WW-A9 DECpc XL Server 566: Pentium/66 MHz kernel configuration DECpc XL Server Base Configurations: FR-791WW-XA DECpc XL Server 466: i486DX2/66 MHz base configuration FR-793WW-XB DECpc XL Server 560: Pentium 60 MHz base configuration FR-794WW-XC DECpc XL Server 566: Pentium 66 MHz base configuration -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ***** INSTANT APPROVAL ON POs ORIGINATING FROM SCHOOLS and GOVT. 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From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Query: Bernoulli 150 Date: 17 Mar 1994 19:37:18 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2mb7le$qte@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <2mac3n$nkf@nic.cerf.net> Andy Lee (andylee@nic.cerf.net) wrote: : Does anyone know if the Bernoulli "MacTransportable MultiDisk 150" : would work on a NeXT? It sells for $519.95 at MacWarehouse --- a : really good price IMHO. I bought a Bernoulli "Transportable 150" in December, from MacConnection. I got the drive with self termination and the two, as opposed to one, SCSI ports. They included a five pack of 150mb cartridges. Anyway, the setup was 'plug-and-play', but instantly. The carts initialize in about 10 seconds, (I thought it didn't initialize because it was so fast). It is without doubt the best $500 I've spent. One caution though, the MacTransportable is much less desireable. I believe there is a termination issue, on the Transportable it is selectable, on the Mac it is not. Also there isn't a SCSI out port. Otherwise it's great. -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "When all else fails, | | Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 keep the blue | | Long Beach, CA ***NeXTstep on black*** side UP!" |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Clinton Wong) Subject: 040 socketed in Cube? Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Message-ID: <CMuD1y.LIs@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 03:44:22 GMT Organization: Purdue Data Network This is a strange question, but if you own an 040 Cube and have seen the inside of your NeXT, I was wondering if the 68040 chip is socketed in the motherboard? (In other words, is it removable?) Regards, Clinton Wong, wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: Transys (SLIP) stopped working!?! Message-ID: <1994Mar17.203033.12108@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 20:30:33 GMT Hi. I used Transys very heavily for about 3 weeks, then took a 2 week break. Now, the scripts I used succesfully for 3 weeks are not working... I keep getting a "recv timeout error" after a connection has been made to the SLIP server, while the logon negotiation is taking place... I get through the login (username), so modem is making a connection, but can't get beyond the password. There has been no change on the server (in terms of prompts) and there has been no change in my system configuration. And, I'm continuing to use the Trumpet SLIP software from my DOS/Windows partition, also without changes... Any body else ever have this problem? ...where Transys is working and then it's not, with no discernable configuration changes to adjust to? Thanks for any insights. Phil Menos -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization In-Reply-To: caro@adobe.com's message of Fri, 18 Mar 1994 00:50:36 GMT To: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar17222600@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <1994Mar18.005036.4648@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 03:26:00 GMT In article <1994Mar18.005036.4648@adobe.com> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: Hear, hear! The proposal is flawed. I'm disappointed that the proponents completely ignored my alternate suggestions, particularly the idea of following the lead of csiph.* and factoring by peripheral rather than CPU type. I'm voting against, but the ayes seem to be in abundance. Oh well, when you aye voters win, have patience with us poor folk who will be forced to crosspost to several different subgroups (3 now, more later, not even counting csiph.*) to ask a question about a common peripheral. Yeah, yeah, cross-posting doesn't bother you, but I get routinely flamed every time I do it, and I only do it when I'm forced to by circumstances. Yes, in that case you would be flamed for not reading the proposal and if I have to do it myself -- getting out of the habit anyway in the last few years. The charter explicitly states and I quote: "comp.sys.next.hardware.misc Peripherals and miscellaneous Hardware (renamed from comp.sys.next.hardware) NeXTstep related hardware questions which belong in none or all of the existing processor specific groups belong in comp.sys.next.hardware.misc. Appropriate topics include the discussion of SCSI devices, modems and printers as related to NeXTstep, any topic relating to NeXTstep on new processors for which no processor specific group has yet been created, and many more. [...] Crossposts between any of these three groups are discouraged. A subject appropriate for one of the processor specific newsgroups is by definition inappropriate for the .misc group, and a question which could go to both of them generally belongs in neither but only in the .misc group. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Just any CD ROM **WILL NOT** work In-Reply-To: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU's message of 18 Mar 1994 00:25:38 GMT To: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar17221859@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16173427@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2mase2$69i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 03:18:59 GMT In article <2mase2$69i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: In article <CEDMAN.94Mar16173427@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > No, just about any SCSI CD-ROM will do, just as virtually every SCSI > hard disk will do. I bought a NEC SCSI CD ROM and had to return it because it was incompatible with NextStep (3.2 on black hardware). I'm afraid I don't remember what model number of NEC it was. In any case, I advise you to buy your CD ROM from a store with a refund policy. Almost certainly a setup problem. The modern series of NEC CD-ROMs is even listed in the hardware compatibility guide as specifically compatible with NS (in addition, I know people who actually do use them). Of course a refund policy is always a good ideas as there are a couple of old CD-ROMs and hard disks which are not fully SCSI compatible which might not work with NS. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Black Hardware Support Message-ID: <CMuG2s.Hqx@ucdavis.edu> Summary: Update on Hardware Support - Black Hardware Keywords: hardware support purchase repair exchange FYI places to purchase/exchange/repair NeXT Black Hardware. Sender: David Bradford Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 04:49:40 GMT 1) Bell Atlantic 1-800-499-NEXT (6398) 2) Pixelated Technologies 1-800-749-3563 & 310-459-6831 3) Dancing Bear Enterprizes 303 479-9101 Information from infobot@dancingbear.com. Use <index> or <catalog> as the subject for document list or a catalog. 4) Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919--voice 415-381-9556--fax To keep those users interested in maintaining/purchasing/exchanging their black hardware well informed, could anyone with experiences with the above companies please post ( or reply to me ) any information that they have. If there are there any other companies/individuals selling/exchanging/repairing NeXT black hardware, please post and send me there phone/address. Thanks, David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Please post the replies. Thanks for input from other motorola fans.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Why not just run white (Was: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black) Message-ID: <CMqsFC.145@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <CMq7w2.4D8@dvorak.amd.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 05:26:00 GMT In article <CMq7w2.4D8@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: #In article <CMown4.3MI@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: #>>In article <2lqmhn$8g9@clt.fx.net> bchin@clt.fx.net (Bill Chin) writes: #>>#Why not just buy white? #>> #>>Because there is no equivalent of a ND in White. # #What about ScreenMachineII ? It's not the equivalent. All the features of the ND are no on the SM II. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Transys (SLIP) stopped working!?! Date: 18 Mar 1994 05:41:01 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mbetd$q3j@news.iastate.edu> References: <1994Mar17.203033.12108@Princeton.EDU> Gerard Philippe Menos writes []Hi. I used Transys very heavily for about 3 weeks, then took a 2 []week break. Now, the scripts I used succesfully for 3 weeks are not []working... I keep getting a "recv timeout error" after a connection []has been made to the SLIP server, while the logon negotiation is []taking place... I get through the login (username), so modem is []making a connection, but can't get beyond the password. There has []been no change on the server (in terms of prompts) and there has been []no change in my system configuration. And, I'm continuing to use the []Trumpet SLIP software from my DOS/Windows partition, also without []changes... [] []Any body else ever have this problem? ...where Transys is working and []then it's not, with no discernable configuration changes to adjust to? [] []Thanks for any insights. [] This is a COMPLETE shot in the dark, but I have on one occasion seen something like this, indeed, I *suffered* through it for about a week on our SLIP connection here. A well meaning soul had wanted to try and make the connection run more efficiently, and thus he played around with the MTU packet size seeking some sort of optimality. He did this while he was connected and did not realize that by resetting the parameters he was resetting them for anyone else who dialed in (if they themselves did not reset the packet size). Thus, I would make a connection quite normally, but all packets passed after initiating SLIP were the wrong size and essentially there was 100% packet loss. Check all the configuration parameters with the administrator of the SLIP server. It sounds as if the packet size or some other parameter has been reset (it is quite possible that your Trumpet software picks this up "on the fly" while the TransSys stuff does not). Incidentally, the solution we came up with here is that the sys-admin for the SLIP server "locked off" the ability of users to reset most of these parameters. Although this limits the flexibility of the service, it has greatly cut down on teh problems we've had with it. Hope this proves helpful -- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Center for Physical and Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543 Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Parallel port problem with ALR Evolution V Date: 18 Mar 1994 01:11:44 -0500 Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mbgn0$go2@dorito.cs.umd.edu> Hi, I have an ALR Evolution V (Pentium) with the following configuration: ATI GUP/2MB VRAM Adaptec 1542C 660 MB Fujitsu SCSI HD The system works nicely, except for the fact that the parallel port doesn't get recognized: Mar 14 19:35:05 localhost mach: IOParallelPort not allocated: controller not det ected at address 0x378 Does anyone out there with an ALR Evolution V with a similar setup have a working parallel port? BTW, the parallel port works fine under Windows NT and DOS. There are no apparent hardware conflicts. I'm using NS/I 3.2 and the latest Adaptec drivers. Oh, the parallel port really is at 0x378h (I called ALR to verify). Thanks! Ross. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Monitor pinout problem. Help! Date: 15 Mar 1994 09:50:24 -0800 Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <2m4sh0$350@chiton.ucsd.edu> References: <2m242r$f9a@netnews.upenn.edu> In article <2m242r$f9a@netnews.upenn.edu> rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) writes: > > > >Our NeXT Cube monitor went blind, and we are on the verge of purchasing another.However, prior to doing so, I want to test the cable. This is what I got. > >All pins have signal flow to pins on the othert side w/ same numbers except#7. >#7 has no flow whatsover to any other pin. For those of you who don't have old manuals, here is a summary from the NeXTStep 2.0 User's Reference: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The display (video monitor) port uses a D-19 connector whose pins are numbered as follows: Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 +12V 11 +12V 2 =12V 12 -12V 3 MON CLK 13 GND 4 MON DATA OUT 14 GND 5 MON DATA IN 15 GND 6 MON PWR SWITCH 16 GND 7 NC 17 GND 8 VSYNC 18 GND 9 HSYNC 19 GND 10 VIDEO - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - So it looks like pin 7 isn't used. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu clowenstein@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda) Subject: pocket/pcmcia ethernet adaptors Message-ID: <1994Mar18.075227.6373@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle Date: Fri, 18 Mar 94 07:52:27 GMT Are any parallel port or pcmcia ethernet adaptors supported under nextstep? Any drivers in progress? Who besides me needs one? (Maybe I'll write a driver and sell it...)
From: wegmann@cyrano.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Can't r/w from Tandberg TDC3600 at NSfIP Date: 18 Mar 1994 07:59:44 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <WEGMANN.94Mar18085944@cyrano.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> References: <199402180606.HAA29657@grasp.insa-lyon.fr> <2lv5h3$dn@machthenext.dannug.dk> I have trouble running a Tandberg TDC-3600 under NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. The TDC-3600 is a QIC-streamer conforming to the QIC-250 standard. I tried it along with the standard SCSI tape driver. During the boot process the system acknowledges the presence of the drive and assigns it to st0 with the major device number 8. Existing device files are /dev/rst0 and /dev/nrst0. In fact, I can successfully use mt to retrieve the status or to skip fw/bw and there are no error messages at all. But If I try (gnu)tar or dd to write to the tape or only to read from a (previously written) one, I got the 'I/O error, no such device or address' message. Anybody experienced similar problems? I'm not in the mood to write a tape driver for the TANDBERG since that streamer should behave quite normally. Any help is really appreciated. Thanks in advance, Frank =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 24 61 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 70 94 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Internet : wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de 44780 Bochum X.400: G=Frank; S=Wegmann; OU1=rz; OU2=ruba; Germany PRMD=ruhr-uni-bochum; ADMD=d400; C=de =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 24 61 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 70 94 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Internet : wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de 44780 Bochum X.400: G=Frank; S=Wegmann; OU1=rz; OU2=ruba; Germany PRMD=ruhr-uni-bochum; ADMD=d400; C=de =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ericw@its.com (Eric Wespestad) Subject: Re: NEC 3x (triple speed CD-ROM?) - how about NEC 4x too? Message-ID: <1994Mar15.225327.24701@its.com> Sender: usenet@its.com Organization: Information Technology Solutions References: <CJG3t2.7Aq@nextsrv1.andi.org> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:53:27 GMT In article <CJG3t2.7Aq@nextsrv1.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes: > In article <1994Jan11.020515.9648@adobe.com> caro@mv.us.adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: > >Has anyone tried the triple speed CD-ROMS with NEXTSTEP, NS/FIP in > >particular? > > I've used a NEC 3Xe with turbo black hardware and two NS/FIP machines, > with the Adaptec 1542c and DPT 2021 with no problems in NS... Has anyone yet tried the NEC MultiSpin 4X Pro with black hardware? I would be most interested to learn from anyone who knows from experience that this works. Thanks, Eric Wespestad Information Technology Solutions, Inc. VOICE: (312) 474-7700 500 West Madison, Suite 2210 FAX: (312) 474-9361 Chicago, Illinios 60661 EMAIL: Eric_Wespestad@its.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low) Subject: Does WangTek SCSI DAT drive work under NS ? Message-ID: <boonlow.763983388@sfu.ca> Sender: news@sfu.ca (seymour news) Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 09:36:28 GMT Hey there, I got a WangTek 6200 4mm DAT SCSI drive. I installed the drive and add in the SCSI tape drive drivers from the configuration under NSFIP. However, I did not get any info on ID/address used like those for my SCSI drive or CD Rom Drive. If anyone uses a SCSI tape backup or have any advice, I would greatly appreciated a lending hand/e-mail ;-) Thanks, Ben.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: UNIX-like keyboards for PCs? Message-ID: <1994Mar14.183444.22677@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <2lp97u$7r2@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:34:44 GMT Alvin Jee writes > Hello netters! > > Anybody find a source of good keyboards for PCs that do NOT have the IBM > Selectric layout (I think..)? I really like to have the ESC key right next to > the 1 key and the CONTROL key next to the A rather than the Caps Lock next to > the A. All my trips to major computer places in the San Jose CA area have come > up empty. Oh, I tried remapping the keys, but the Caps lock thing is > apparently done in hardware, so it's always a toggle button. :( > This may or may not help with your problem, but take a look in the Preferences.app localization preferences. Change your keyboard preference to NeXTUSA. This will allow a PC's keyboard to emulate the standard NeXT keyboard layout (i.e. ESC to the left of 1, control next to A, alt in lower left corner, command next to space bar, etc...) -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | CG Computer Services | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/
From: smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 18 Mar 1994 12:02:43 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mc593$15r@nntp.crl.com> References: <2m940k$eaj@nntp.crl.com> In article <2m940k$eaj@nntp.crl.com> smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger") writes: > We've had a series of consultations with engineering staff at Newer regarding this board, > which could be a boon to us black birds. > > The good news is: > > 1) There is a chance that the Newer board will fit onto > the Cube motherboard without much modification. > 2) It may be ncessary to that board be "Sphericized" > so it will run in another slot that provides clearance > for the CPU cooler > 3) It is just conceivable that it will fit into the Station. > > The bad news is: > > 1) It will work only with 25 mhz hardware at this time. > 2) Matt's analysis may well be right--it seems logical. > > To make a determination, we've ordered the proper board, and > will be testing it beginning tomorrow. If it can be made to > work, Spherical will be distributing it to the NeXT community at competitive prices. For > those folks with soldered-in '040's, we'll offer a swap program. > > We'll post to the net with the results of this research. If it does work, > we'll run some benchmarks and post these as well. > The first results are in, and the Newer board fits beautifully into the cube motherboard; however, the board must indeed be "Sphericized" to provide clearance. Moreover, it doesn't work at all. We've sent the board back to Newer; they'll be doing some testing and perhaps some modification. More news later. Sam -- Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919--voice 415-381-9556--fax
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Canon NeXTstations, MP, and NeXTstep Date: 17 Mar 1994 13:59:50 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2macrm$gov@cobber.cord.edu> According to this week's PCWEEK Canon will be building their DX4 based PCs (NeXTstations) optimized for NeXTSTEP for shipment late May. They are also readying their dual Pentium-based NeXTstations for the 3rd quarter. Looks like the Mach kernel will be configured for MP. About time. -Jon -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: 3com etherlink still buggy ? Message-ID: <CMqI26.Bx@moksha.uucp> Keywords: bad, bad ethernet board Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 01:42:05 GMT Back in december, there were some posts indicating there were problems with the 3com ethernet board and NS/I. We recently installed NS/I on a system w/ a 3com board in it and find that all network activiity will just lock up after a while, as described in some of the earlier posts. We have a single NFS mount that is not utilized much. I did set the buffer size to 1024 as suggested in a Next Answers doc,but that didn't seem to help. Anybody know what the problem is ? Anybody know a fix ? -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just any CD ROM **WILL NOT** work Date: 18 Mar 1994 17:53:03 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mcppv$ert@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar17221859@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Mar17221859@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > Almost certainly a setup problem. The modern series of > NEC CD-ROMs is even listed in the hardware compatibility > guide as specifically compatible with NS (in addition, I > know people who actually do use them). No. I checked. My NEC model number was NOT listed in the compatibility guide. I had one of the most inexpensive Mac CD ROM drives made by NEC. > Which model did you get and how was it incompatible? I returned it six months ago and don't remember the model number. It was model 14 or 17 or something in the teens. My 040 NeXT slab couldn't find it as a SCSI device upon bootup. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why not just run white (Was: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black) Date: 18 Mar 1994 16:58:28 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Distribution: na Message-ID: <2mcmjk$psf@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> References: <CMqsFC.145@infoserv.com> On this subject of "why not just run white" vs black hardware, I'll tell you why _I_ sold my 486. I had a 486 running Linux and X-Windows that I had purchased for a class project. I used it, then I had no need for it all; it was much more machine than I needed. I've always lusted after a NeXT--specifically a Cube. They're just cool machines. I also think they're designed very well. Not that I'm an electrical engineer or anything, but I've looked at the design of these things and it seems to be superior to what crapola we see in the Intel world. Also, I wanted (and got) a piece of history. Cheers, Daniel -- Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Informal compatibility list aka Success Stories? Date: 18 Mar 1994 18:29:15 GMT Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mcrtr$7de@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> Is there someone actively maintaining a list of systems that have "rumored" successes with NS/fip i.e. claims not verified by NeXT? Specifically, a COMPONENT list so those of us who build systems (because we want fine control over our parts) can intelligently select pieces and put them together? I suppose the most important consideration is motherboard support -- what chipsets/chips don't work, etc. Specifically, I'm looking/thinking about going EISA/PCI or EISA/VLB in the near future, based on the DX4 or Pentium, for prototyping work. Thanks, Brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Re: Canon NeXTstations, MP, and NeXTstep Message-ID: <1994Mar18.162258.24895@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. References: <2macrm$gov@cobber.cord.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 16:22:58 GMT In article <2macrm$gov@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu writes: > > According to this week's PCWEEK Canon will be building their DX4 based > PCs (NeXTstations) optimized for NeXTSTEP for shipment late May. They > are also readying their dual Pentium-based NeXTstations for the 3rd > quarter. > > Looks like the Mach kernel will be configured for MP. About time. Depends on what you mean. It could be symmetric, asymetric, or could be the old DPS on one processor and everything else on the other. I wouldn't get worked up until you see an announcement. -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which ethernet card? Message-ID: <Mar.18.13.39.29.1994.2384@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 18 Mar 94 18:39:30 GMT References: <2m8i61$sbr@news.tamu.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes: As I understand it, the only good card for NS is the Intel ether xpress 16. the 16c is the combo card which has thick, thin and 10baseT support and can easily be had for 120 bux. Good luck, Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: anand@denys.yale.edu (Anand R. Mehta) Subject: printing thinly in center of page with NeXTlaser Message-ID: <1994Mar18.191133.28939@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 19:11:33 GMT My NeXTlaser has a tendency to print thinly in the center of the page. I've just replaced the toner cartridge without any luck. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what the cause/solution might be? Thanks, -Anand -- ================================================================== Anand Mehta mehta-anand@yale.edu 203-436-1482 Computing Asst. We dance round in a ring and suppose, But the Secret sits in the middle and knows. ==================================================================
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adapterc 1542CF card (Addressing > 16MB?) Date: 18 Mar 1994 19:37:43 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2mcvu7$19h@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> <CMr1CE.n2n@utstat.toronto.edu> <2m9rd6$jvp@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> Keywords: Adaptec, SCSI, ISA In article <2m9rd6$jvp@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>, Randy Kunkee <kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> wrote: >In article <CMr1CE.n2n@utstat.toronto.edu>, >Philip McDunnough <philip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote: >>In article <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: >>>I have a quote from a vendor that specifies the following... >>> >>>"16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller" >>> >>>This is the 1542CF. I was informed by a colleague that these >>>cards are 8 bit because of the ISA bus. Is this true? >> >>No, it's 16. Also, unless you plan on running a server it's more than >>fast enough >> >>>Seems to me that one would like a PCI SCSI disk controller so that >>>the Pentium system I am putting together (on paper) will stand >>>a chance of being most efficient. However, I see in the Guide that >>>there are no NS/FIP PCI SCSI controller drivers available. Is this >>>going to change? >> >>Probably, but I don't see the need for it. It's overkill. How many HD's >>would even keep up? None. >> >>>And, would someone please enlighten me if an EISA SCSI controller >>>(and relevant drivers) should be considered as the solution? >> >>Not unless you are running a server, in my opinion. VL/ISA or PCI/ISA is >>the way to go. VL/ISA is less expensive. >> > >Can I take it then that NSFIP knows not to try to address > 16MB with an >Adaptec? It seems like enough people are using it that this would be >obvious, but I'd like to check. >-- I would assume that NS/I knows better than to try to address more than 16Mb on an ISA bus device. The question I have is whether for EISA, PCI, VL buses does it know to use more? I suspect the question is partly mute, because most I/O in Unix is buffered and those buffers reserved at boot time are mostly likely in the lower 16mb of memory space. But for those applications doing direct raw i/o you don't neccessarily want any unnecessary buffering to occur on those systems with i/o busses capable of handling memory addressing beyond 16 Mb. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <1994Mar18.192309.14460@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <1994Mar18.005036.4648@adobe.com> <CEDMAN.94Mar17222600@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 19:23:09 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Mar17222600@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >Yes, in that case you would be flamed for not reading the proposal and I have studied the proposal in detail now, and I see no reason to change my position. >The charter explicitly states and I quote: > >"comp.sys.next.hardware.misc Peripherals and miscellaneous Hardware >(renamed from comp.sys.next.hardware) > >NeXTstep related hardware questions which belong in none or all of the >existing processor specific groups belong in comp.sys.next.hardware.misc. >Appropriate topics include the discussion of SCSI devices, modems and >printers as related to NeXTstep, any topic relating to NeXTstep on new >processors for which no processor specific group has yet been created, and >many more. > >[...] > >Crossposts between any of these three groups are discouraged. A subject >appropriate for one of the processor specific newsgroups is by definition >inappropriate for the .misc group, and a question which could go to both of >them generally belongs in neither but only in the .misc group. Ah, if only the world were so perfect. How do you plan to force everyone to subscribe to *.misc, so that I don't have to cross-post? Personally, I tend to AVOID *.misc groups, when more specific groups are available. I can't be unique in this. In reality, I anticipate the following to occur: 1) The guy who has the answer to my general SCSI Tape question only reads *.m68k because he can't stand all the yammer in *.misc about vaporware NS platforms. Do I take the risk of missing him by only posting to .misc? Of course not. 2) The folks on comp.sys.ibm.pc.storage know plenty about disk drives. The information there is generally more accurate and timely than here. Will all of those folks now subscribe to csnh.misc? Of course not. I'm forced to cross-post between the two hierarchies. This isn't different from what I have to do today, but see #1 above -- there are now more places where I have to cross-post. 3) I have a question about hardware that I need to work on both black and white platforms. Which group do I post to? Clearly, all of them! Finally, suppose NEXTSTEP is successful, and the 1e06 units are in place and growing. Traffic in *.misc becomes double what csn.hardware is today. Now what? A division by peripheral would be desirable, but that is now an unpleasant option due to the CPU based hierarchy. Do we duplicate *.storage, *.comm, *.video, etc. under each CPU type? One of the biggest complaints I have about the current proposal is that it isn't scalable to the future. A couple of procedural nits: * A final draft of the voting proposal should have been circulated during the RFD. Ideally, advocacy for/against should happen during the RFD, not the CFV. I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that advocacy for the proposals by the proponents during the CFV phase has been used as grounds to throw out the results of the vote on previous occasions in other groups. * There should only be ONE proposal for the 1 name change and 2 creations combined, not three separate proposals. What happens if 1 or 2 of the proposals fails to get enough YES votes? You're left with a broken hierarchy! Again, this problem would have been avoided with a review of a final draft during the RFD. If a final draft was circulated, I do apologize. It's possible that it was lost or purged from my site before I could see it. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: NEC Color Versa Driver Message-ID: <CMqs08.14K@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <9403111134.AA11768@dcs.shef.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 05:16:56 GMT In article <9403111134.AA11768@dcs.shef.ac.uk> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) writes: > > I know someone else just asked about this recently, but > > I was out on break and missed the response. Does anyone > > know where to get a color display driver for an NEC > > Versa??? I really need this right away! > > > Je crois que Talus en a de'veloppe', mais je ne sais pas si on peut > l'acheter, malheureusement :-( > On m'a dit qu'il y avait un <<de'saccord>> entre Talus et NeXT. This certainly seems to be true. You might call Steve Sarich and talk to him sometime; he's the president of Talus, but it was possible to talk to him; he had some "interesting" stories. > Vous > pouvez e'crire a` Steve Sarich: > steve@talus.com > ou peut-e^tre > steve@talus.msk.su > > ou me^me Paul Vais... > Paul_Vais@NeXT.com > > Amusez-vous! > > mmalcolm. -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: looking for vendors for black simms Message-ID: <18MAR199414224057@eisner.decus.org> From: bick@eisner.decus.org (Dan Bick) Date: 18 Mar 1994 14:22 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: DECUServe News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1 Does anyone know a reliable vendor for 100ns simms for black 68040 nextStations? I'd rather deal with someone versed in NeXT hardware, or able to spec for them. thanks, Dan
From: mcconnea@lggate2.hq.af.mil (Andrew McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <mcconnea.6.000FAB23@lggate2.hq.af.mil> Control: cancel <mcconnea.6.000FAB23@lggate2.hq.af.mil> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:40:12 Organization: 7CG/XPE USAF Distribution: world Message-ID: <mcconnea.7.000FAC06@lggate2.hq.af.mil> Keywords: IBM, Valuepoint, NS 3.2, IDE, SCSI
From: mcconnea@lggate2.hq.af.mil (Andrew McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <mcconnea.6.000FAB23@lggate2.hq.af.mil> Control: cancel <mcconnea.6.000FAB23@lggate2.hq.af.mil> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:40:31 Organization: 7CG/XPE USAF Distribution: world Message-ID: <mcconnea.8.000FAD5B@lggate2.hq.af.mil> Keywords: IBM, Valuepoint, NS 3.2, IDE, SCSI
From: mcconnea@lggate2.hq.af.mil (Andrew McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS3.2 on a Valuepoint? Possible? Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:48:42 Organization: 7CG/XPE USAF Message-ID: <mcconnea.9.000FD04E@lggate2.hq.af.mil> Keywords: IBM, PS Valuepoint, IDE, SCSI, 3.2 I'm trying to install NS3.2 on a PS/Valuepoint from IBM. Has anyone had any luck with this install? This is my system: 486/33 On board IDE controller (disabled????) Third party IDE controller for Hard Drive 325Mb IDE drive and floppy Adaptec 1542C Quantum 425s 406Mb SCSI drive Sony SCSI CD-ROM drive (made by Apple) I can't seem to get this configuration to work. I know that NeXT has mentioned IBMs IDE controller will not work, but what about this third party controller? I tried disconnecting the IDE drive all the way, and booting with SCSI - this gave me a little hope, but the install process never finished. Once I even could pick my device configs from the GUI-based menus! But the boot process now consistenly hangs. I see this message: Cannot find termcap and it dumps me to the mach prompt. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Lt Andy McConnell Communications Engineer 7th Communications Group, USAF Pentagon andym@hq.af.mil
From: Shahid Sheikh <Shahid.Sheikh@OIT.gatech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sharing an Apple CD150 between a NeXT and Quadra? Date: 18 Mar 1994 23:14:30 GMT Organization: Network Services, Georgia Tech. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mdckm$552@news.gatech.edu> Hi folks: Is it possible to share a CD 150 between a Quadra 700 and a NeXTstation turbo on the same SCCI bus. The cpu on both machines is id 7. Is it possible to change the SCCI id of either machine? Also, how will the harddisks on the two machines behave when the mac sees a NeXT drive and a NeXT sees mac drive. Will they try to (or want to ) initialize each other's drives? Any help would be grately appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------- Shahid Shiekh GeorgiaTech Network Services shahid.sheikh@oit.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Canon NeXTstations, MP, and NeXTstep Message-ID: <CMvM9q.KCA@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <1994Mar18.162258.24895@FreemanSoft.com> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 20:00:59 GMT In article <1994Mar18.162258.24895@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes: >>In article <2macrm$gov@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu writes: >>> >>> According to this week's PCWEEK Canon will be building their DX4 based >>> PCs (NeXTstations) optimized for NeXTSTEP for shipment late May. They >>> are also readying their dual Pentium-based NeXTstations for the 3rd >>> quarter. >>> >>> Looks like the Mach kernel will be configured for MP. About time. >> >>Depends on what you mean. It could be symmetric, asymetric, or could be >>the old DPS on one processor and everything else on the other. I wouldn't >>get worked up until you see an announcement. >> Even the last option sounds killer to me! The real question remains...Will they be black ?!? :) -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CAM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) Subject: Looking for NEC Versa users Message-ID: <abellCMvwp7.2wG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 23:46:15 GMT They're taking away my black hardware at work, giving me a NEC Versa Laptop. I hear that NS/I runs on these things. If you have any experience with this, please tell me how to go about it, and how not to go about it. Your specific advice will be vastly appreciated by my co-workers who won't have to listen to me complain about having to use Windows, not to mention by me, myself, and I. Steve abell@netcom.com
From: gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu (Gary P. Wolfe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WANTED: Power Supply or Phone # to GET ONE! Date: 19 Mar 1994 00:23:56 GMT Organization: Boise State University Message-ID: <2mdgms$9id@euskadi.idbsu.edu> I am looking for a power supply or phone number for a place to get one: NeXT Part No. 1477 Sony Model No. APS-21 Sony Part No. 68-1120-51 It is, obviously, out of a NeXT Station Mono 68040 @ 25Mhz and the one I have is dead. I would like to get a direct replacement for this, or one that is a guaranteed compatible version. Please send offers to my e-mail below. I would like to get this replaced at a reasonable cost, please. Thank you, Gary Wolfe gwolfe@gozer.idbsu.edu gwolfe@opal.idbsu.edu -- "I was crazy once...They put me in a little white room...I loved that room...I died in that room...When they buried me they put little white flowers on my grave that tickled my nose and drove me crazy...CRAZY I tell you...I was crazy once!"
From: gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Canon NeXTstations, MP, and NeXTstep Date: 19 Mar 1994 00:52:44 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: na Message-ID: <2mdics$qn4@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <CMvM9q.KCA@dvorak.amd.com> In article <CMvM9q.KCA@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: > In article <1994Mar18.162258.24895@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe > Freeman) writes: > >>In article <2macrm$gov@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu writes: > >>> > >>> According to this week's PCWEEK Canon will be building their DX4 based > >>> PCs (NeXTstations) optimized for NeXTSTEP for shipment late May. They > >>> are also readying their dual Pentium-based NeXTstations for the 3rd > >>> quarter. > >> > > Even the last option sounds killer to me! The real question remains...Will they > be black ?!? "Being considered...," a CCSI executive told me. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg C. Foliente gregf@nature.berkeley.edu FPL, UC-Berkeley (NeXTMail) gregf@fpl91.berkeley.edu 1301 South 46th St, Richmond, CA 94804 phone: (510) 215-4282 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: tmeyer@mcs.com (Tom Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hate my Keyboard! Date: 19 Mar 1994 03:57:50 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <2mdt7v$ati@Mars.mcs.com> Does anyone know of a PC-type keyboard that will work on my Intel that has the same feel of a NeXT ADB keyboard ? 3 Months of this clickety-clack IBM-style keyboard is making me INSANE! (I've already weighed down my feather-weight Logitec mouse with a lead weight :-) anything is appreciated, -tom tmeyer@mcs.com tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <1994Mar19.034126.4030@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1994Mar18.005036.4648@adobe.com> <CEDMAN.94Mar17222600@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1994Mar18.192309.14460@adobe.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 03:41:26 GMT I want to clear up a few points, and then I'll shut up. Carl Edman makes several good points in his rebuttal, and I'm willing to concede those that relate to my own evident ignorance. I'm willing to take the proponent's words for it that the new group guidelines have been followed in both spirit and letter. I don't know how I could have missed the final draft proposal, 2nd RFD, and 100's of responses. I evidentally failed to receive the CFV, so anything is possible. I've read the proposal. I never refused to read it. I even claim to understand it. I do not condone cross-posting to every newsgroup in the universe. On the other hand, I do believe that some cross-posting is useful. I acknowledge that there are those that find cross-posts a pain. Carl and the charter tell me not to cross-post, but neither give me an adequate alternative. I'm asked to take on faith that enough people will read .misc to make this a non-issue. I'm unconvinced. I get no benefit whatsoever from the proposed changes. I use both black and white hardware daily. I may even use SPARC and PA-RISC hardware in the future. I'll end up reading all subgroups anyway. However, I acknowledge that there are people who believe they will benefit from the proposed split. I don't find the traffic on csn.h unmanageable, but clearly some people do. When traffic does increase to an unmanageable level for me, and hopefully it will if NEXTSTEP is successful, I will suggest that we follow the lead set by comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware and add peripheral specific subgroups. I do concede that, in addition to peripherals, there is merit to partitioning by "CPU" -- though I wish the prefix csnh.system. were added to the m68k and i386, to make it clear that the topic area is systems based on the chip, not the chip architecture itself. I still maintain that this is premature, however. In the final analysis, I will not be seriously discommoded if the proposal wins. Having low expectations, I will not be disappointed. It's those of you who have high expectations for reduced traffic and increased value who are likely to be disappointed. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DPT SCSI controller *memory* Date: 19 Mar 1994 01:36:32 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2mdkv0$cnu@Times.Stanford.EDU> What kind of memory do DPT SCSI controllers take for there caches? I think they are upgradable to 64MB of cache! Do they have standard SIMM slots? I'm just thinking that all this 30-pin memory that people are getting rid of should be used for something good besides putting it into old or bottom-of-the-line computers. Do any of the many potential system components take 30-pin SIMMS as their memory part? The SCSI controller isn't the only type of component with a cache. (Let's see, I guess some CD-ROMs have one, hard drives, ...) I guess many components don't have a cache that users can upgrade. -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Message-ID: <CMw97q.8vw@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: Headless Slab Operation Sender: David Bradford Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 04:16:38 GMT I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs headless - without monitor or keyboard. I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial ports. Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or help will be much appreciated. David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu P.S. Reason: Save electricty while doing PVM code development.
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: DOS Partition blues Date: 19 Mar 1994 00:20:36 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403190613.AA06406@PCS.CNU.EDU> - Dunno if this is a software or hardware question, so I'm posdting in both bases.... Recently, under NSi, my 120mb MSDOS 6.2 (non double-spaced) which partition -- which is 60% full -- is said to have no psace free. [sorry, no del key -- typos galore!] It actually has about 50mb free. And I get errors wheneve I copy files from DOS to NS partitions in NS when I try to run or unpack them. Any idea what this could be? Under scandisk in dos, the DOS partition seems ok. This is a big problem. Any ideas? bp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization In-Reply-To: caro@adobe.com's message of Fri, 18 Mar 1994 19:23:09 GMT To: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar18173544@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <1994Mar18.005036.4648@adobe.com> <CEDMAN.94Mar17222600@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1994Mar18.192309.14460@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 22:35:43 GMT In article <1994Mar18.192309.14460@adobe.com> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: In article <CEDMAN.94Mar17222600@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >The charter explicitly states and I quote: > >"comp.sys.next.hardware.misc Peripherals and miscellaneous Hardware >(renamed from comp.sys.next.hardware) > >NeXTstep related hardware questions which belong in none or all of the >existing processor specific groups belong in comp.sys.next.hardware.misc. >Appropriate topics include the discussion of SCSI devices, modems and >printers as related to NeXTstep, any topic relating to NeXTstep on new >processors for which no processor specific group has yet been created, and >many more. > >[...] > >Crossposts between any of these three groups are discouraged. A subject >appropriate for one of the processor specific newsgroups is by definition >inappropriate for the .misc group, and a question which could go to both of >them generally belongs in neither but only in the .misc group. Ah, if only the world were so perfect. How do you plan to force everyone to subscribe to *.misc, so that I don't have to cross-post? You can't force anybody to subscribe to any newsgroup -- all you can do is post to the newsgroup which is most appropriate according to its charter. The philosophy which says that one should post to whatever group one feels will give the best response is the one which condones the posting of "MAKE.MONEY.FAST" to every group in the net. Personally, I tend to AVOID *.misc groups, when more specific groups are available. I can't be unique in this. For an NS related SCSI tape question there is no more specific group. The charter (which as you admit you hadn't even read when you made your original comments) is absolutely unambiguous. In reality, I anticipate the following to occur: 1) The guy who has the answer to my general SCSI Tape question only reads *.m68k because he can't stand all the yammer in *.misc about vaporware NS platforms. Do I take the risk of missing him by only posting to .misc? Of course not. And what if he only reads alt.sex because he really doesn't care about NS ? Do you only post there in that case ? Realistically, your hypothetical guy is considerably more likely to put up with reading the m68k specific stuff in csnh.m68k and the "yammer" about vaporware platforms in csnh.misc than he is to read csnh as it is today which contains all of the above _plus_ i386 specific stuff. 2) The folks on comp.sys.ibm.pc.storage know plenty about disk drives. The information there is generally more accurate and timely than here. Will all of those folks now subscribe to csnh.misc? Of course not. I'm forced to cross-post between the two hierarchies. This isn't different from what I have to do today, but see #1 above -- there are now more places where I have to cross-post. So you admit that your (2) doesn't add anything beyond the faulty (1) ? Very well, that spares me the trouble of demonstrating. 3) I have a question about hardware that I need to work on both black and white platforms. Which group do I post to? Clearly, all of them! No. The proposal has been posted to n.a.newgroups, comp.sys.next.hardware and comp.sys.next.misc. I've sent you a complete copy privately. Then I posted the relevant excerpt in a reply to one of your posts and mailed you a copy in addition. If after all this you still categorical refuse to read it, it is obviously beyond my power to make you. Finally, suppose NEXTSTEP is successful, and the 1e06 units are in place and growing. Traffic in *.misc becomes double what csn.hardware is today. Now what? Currently there are about 80k NS machines. NeXT business plans call for another 90k-100k this year. Let's assume NeXTs business grows at 100% annually -- a rate which should keep Steve more than happy. Then we'll reach 1e6 units in close to four years. If no additional reorganization should be necessary before that time for other reasons, this split would be spectacularly successful. A division by peripheral would be desirable, but that is now an unpleasant option due to the CPU based hierarchy. Do we duplicate *.storage, *.comm, *.video, etc. under each CPU type? One of the biggest complaints I have about the current proposal is that it isn't scalable to the future. A peripheral based hierarchy is essentially useless for the reduction of the load on each news reader. Almost every NS user has a hard disk, some kind of video facility, a monitor, sound capability, a CPU a.s.o. So every reader who wants to keep up to date has to read all the groups and nothing is gained. On the other hand, most NS users only have one CPU type and are not interested in information specific to the other types. Splitting the hardware groups along system type lines drastically reduces the time every reader needs to spend to find all the information applicable to him. A couple of procedural nits: * A final draft of the voting proposal should have been circulated during the RFD. Ideally, advocacy for/against should happen during the RFD, not the CFV. I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that advocacy for the proposals by the proponents during the CFV phase has been used as grounds to throw out the results of the vote on previous occasions in other groups. A proposal identical to the one currently being voted upon was suggested by me ten months ago on May 18 1993 in these groups. Since then several hundred posts have been made on this subject. Over a month ago, Stephan Trebels who is responsible for the current vote, posted an RFD to all the appropriate groups. A few weeks later he posted a 2nd RFD. Only after following the procedure perfectly, was a CFVs posted. During all that time we discussed the proposal in detail with countless interested parties on the net. However we didn't hear from you until after the CFV was originally posted. As for the possible invalidity of the vote, all I can ask is, does the term sci.aquaria ring any bells ? * There should only be ONE proposal for the 1 name change and 2 creations combined, not three separate proposals. What happens if 1 or 2 of the proposals fails to get enough YES votes? You're left with a broken hierarchy! Again, this problem would have been avoided with a review of a final draft during the RFD. Over the years this general matter has been discussed exhaustively among those interested in the governance (such as it is) of the net. The consensus (or as close as it is possible to get to one on the net) is that voters need to be given the opportunity to vote on each action separately to prevent proposers from "carrying" unpopular groups by attaching them to the same proposal as popular groups. Yes, that opens up the possibility of "broken" hierarchies. Fortunately voters are smart enough in their voting to have prevented such hierarchies from occurring so far. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: DEC XL Server Specs In-Reply-To: info@paradigm-shift.com's message of 18 Mar 1994 02:34:31 GMT To: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar18073707@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2mb3vo$fu1@inxs.concert.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:37:06 GMT In article <2mb3vo$fu1@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes: STANDARD FEATURES: Integrated Graphics Graphic controller with 512 KB of video RAM, upgradable to 1 MB Supports 800 x 600 x 256 colors or 1024 x 768 x 16 colors But that makes in effect unusable for NS. To use NS in color (and who chooses to buy a relatively expensive machine to run it in 8-bit gray ?) you need at least 16 bit/pixel which at resolutions at which NS needs to be run at least 2 MByte VRAM. If you want to do any work in true color or have a large monitor and want to play with high resolution you need 4 MBytes. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: Which display card and Network card? Message-ID: <CMwDF7.97o@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <2m90ml$19p0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 05:47:31 GMT In article <2m90ml$19p0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> jng@comp.hkbc.hk (Dr. Joseph Ng) writes: > I am going to set up a NeXT machine and wonder which display card is better? > S3-805, or ATI Ultra Pro. At this moment, my demand is a 16bit color > screen at 800x600 resolution. Please post or email your advice. > > I also have a question on network card, I have a 3C509 from 3Com, but > someone have suggested me to choose either SMC Elite or Intel EtherExpress. > Again, could someone enlighten me? > We've had big problems w/ the 3com card. It regularly "locks up" in that you can't get any incoming connections to work after about an hour of use. The SMC seems to work; haven't tried the intel.... -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DEC XL Server Specs Date: 19 Mar 1994 13:44:44 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mevkc$i96@inxs.concert.net> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar18073707@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Mar18073707@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <2mb3vo$fu1@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) writes: > STANDARD FEATURES: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Integrated Graphics > Graphic controller with 512 KB of video RAM, upgradable to 1 MB > Supports 800 x 600 x 256 colors or 1024 x 768 x 16 colors > > But that makes in effect unusable for NS. To use NS in color (and who > chooses to buy a relatively expensive machine to run it in 8-bit gray > ?) you need at least 16 bit/pixel which at resolutions at which NS > needs to be run at least 2 MByte VRAM. If you want to do any work in > true color or have a large monitor and want to play with high > resolution you need 4 MBytes. The specs we posted are for the STANDARD CONFIGURATION, there are three PCI/EISA slots in the machine for third party video cards. ;-) Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ***** INSTANT APPROVAL ON POs ORIGINATING FROM SCHOOLS and GOVT. AGENCIES *****
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Subject: Re: Canon NeXTstations, MP, and NeXTstep Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Message-ID: <CMx0u9.Lnz@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 14:13:21 GMT Distribution: na References: <2mdics$qn4@agate.berkeley.edu> Organization: Purdue Data Network In article <2mdics$qn4@agate.berkeley.edu> gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. Foliente) writes: > In article <CMvM9q.KCA@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron > Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: > > In article <1994Mar18.162258.24895@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com > (Joe > > Freeman) writes: > > >>In article <2macrm$gov@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu writes: > > >>> > > >>> According to this week's PCWEEK Canon will be building their DX4 > based > > >>> PCs (NeXTstations) optimized for NeXTSTEP for shipment late May. > They > > >>> are also readying their dual Pentium-based NeXTstations for the 3rd > > >>> quarter. > > >> > > > > Even the last option sounds killer to me! The real question > remains...Will they > > be black ?!? > > "Being considered...," a CCSI executive told me. That's ridiculous. Any marketing idiot can see the benefits of making the thing available in black. I'm the only person in my department with a black computer and it is one of the first things people see when they walk into my office. I get more comments about what a great looking computer it is and how people wish they had a black computer..... What is the downside, anyway? Can it really cost much to make it black? Cheers - Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <CMvFMs.Dqr@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <CEDMAN.94Mar16110251@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 17:37:39 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Mar16110251@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes: >> There is ALREADY an appropriate place to discuss Intel hardware- >> specific issues: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware--which itself has >> EIGHT subgroups. (There are also already appropriate places to >> discuss PA-RISC and SPARC hardware issues.) >> >> [ ... and more of the same ... ] >> >> Experience has shown that this type of split only results in a >> degraded signal/noise ratio, a rise in inappropriate >> crosspostings, readership segmentation, and desertion by the >> "experts" best qualified to answer YOUR burning questions. >> >Yes, yes, yes and by the same argument the entire comp.sys.next >hierarchy should never have been created. After we can discuss all [munch] >Or at the very least c.s.n.hardware should never have been created as >you've shown that virtually every single article here really belongs >in a different group. Should all those misguided souls who post here >or who read this newsgroup consider themselves flamed by you ? > >Seriously, any proposed reorganization of the Usenet stands and falls >by one single question: Will it on average allow users to find more >articles of personal interest to them in less time ? > [munch] >do so once -- just as they do today. So nothing will be worse than >today ! Clearly, I do not believe that this will happen, nor does any >one else except for you. But even if it did, we would not have lost >anything we have today. > > Carl Edman I like the present c.s.n.* setup. As a developer, I want to see stuff that is relevant to NeXTSTEP regardless of the platform and having it all in one group provides cross-fertilisation that would be reduced if everything were segmented. Under the current arrangement I can get a very good feel for what is going on, what I ought to read/skip, and so on. I admit this depends on people writing good subject lines, and my possession of a fast modem. I wouldn't want to have to subscribed to new groups every time a new platform showed up any more than skp over all kinds of stuff related to Windows (+) or DOS or something. How many others tend to use the -q flag on rn? Also, since I would be subscribing to all the NeXTSTEP related groups, I'd be getting crossposted duplication. I would object to that as it would be confusing as well as wasteful. There's my 25 cents worth. [I hope you appreciate my use of a protective sign -- (+) -- after mentioning the unmentionable! :-)] david ---------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 19 Mar 1994 09:29:55 -0800 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <2mfcqj$77u@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <2m0l0r$fi2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> I most recently read--Info World or Mac World?--that the 68060 was picked up by Daystar to upgrade older macs that won't get the PowerPC upgrade. I believe the gist was that the 68060 uses the exact same architexture as the 68040s' which makes me wonder all over again. Can someone expand further? maurices
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Canon NeXTstations, MP, and NeXTstep Date: 19 Mar 1994 18:27:56 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: na Message-ID: <2mfg7c$jno@inxs.concert.net> References: <CMx0u9.Lnz@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <CMx0u9.Lnz@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) writes: > What is the downside, anyway? Can it really cost much to > make it black? > We've been told that in quantity (>100) they will make them in black, if desired. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ***** INSTANT APPROVAL ON POs ORIGINATING FROM SCHOOLS and GOVT. AGENCIES *****
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: boot problem - errno 2 Date: 19 Mar 1994 16:54:59 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2mg6t3$qsp@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> I'm totally stumped. I'm trying to get an initialized Seagate drive to install on a colorstation which was without any harddrive. I have a bootable Bernoulli cartridge, which will boot the machine by it's lonesome. Once I hook up the new drive I can't do diddly. I've tried booting in the following ways, with the Bernoulli setup with SCSI 2, on the case SCSI switch; with SCSI 0 on the case switch, and even 1 set. I have to assume the Seagate is set to ID 1, but I don't have the docs on it, however, it is set with the jumper on the two termination connectors closest to the front of the drive (ST1480N). It doesn't seem to matter how I set the Bernoulli's ID, with a normal powerup, I invariably get a message that the load failed, because sd mach was not found. When using 'bsd(1,0,0), the boot process continues through the IDs, which show the Iomega to be sd1 at target 5 (why 5? I have the selector at 0, and no other scsi devices), the Seagate as sd0 at target 1. However, I still end up with bad news; 'Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 2. trying /etc/init Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2' The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps I have not reset the Seagate to an address higher than 1, and that I'm not setting the Bernoulli at scsi ID 0. Unfortunately, I don't have the picture on the scsi jumpers, so I may not even be setting the ID at all. As you can see, there is a bit of confusion here. I imagine the solution is obvious to many, but I don't see it. Help! Thanks much, Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "When all else fails, | | Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 keep the blue | | Long Beach, CA ***NeXTstep on black*** side UP!" |
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next Date: Sat, 19 Mar 94 17:45:14 -0600 Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2973199825.8.p00378@psilink.com> In-Reply-To: <2j3v40$bk2@news.u.washington.edu> SLOW DOWN! I have my NS non-turbo slab connected to my *synthesized* HP4m (HP4 + addt'l 4MB (total=6MB) + Postscript SIMM) with no problems at all! I use a Null modem cable purchased from NeXTConnection to connect them. The only special things I have done are the folowing: On the NeXT: Set up the printer driver to run at 56.6Kbs. On the HP4: Set DTC to OFF. Set the serial port to run at 56.6Kbs. It just works! Do not give up hope on the NS platform. If you ahve anymore problems and/or issues, contact me accordingly. BTW, do not test the configuration using the test button (the demo takes to long). Rather, use Edit.app to send something to the printer. Peace, James >DATE: 6 Feb 94 23:39:44 GMT >FROM: James Bassuk <bassuk@u.washington.edu> > >nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > >>In article <2itt7t$nka@post.its.mcw.edu> rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert >>Morris) writes: >>> I have been trying for almost a year to get my nextstation to print to a >>> laserjet 4m. I have upgraded to ns 3.1 (still waiting for 3.2), I have >>> picked up the drivers from the archive servers, I have special ordered a >>> cable, all to no avail. THIS SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROBLEM!!!! I am about to >>> throw in the towel on NeXT. I had planned to convert my entire research >>> computing network to NS, but am changing plans in light of this absurdity. >>> Support is invisible. It's a great OS, but nothing is worth this hassle. >>> >>> I will gladly pay for a solution to this problem. For now I am reduced to >>> using my old Mac IIcx. At least the damn thing works. > >>I would suggest purchasing an Emulex NetJet card for the printer. > >>Then just hang it on the network, make the printcap entry, and wonder why >>you ever bothered with the serial ports while enjoying problem-free >>fast printing... > >>I am assuming the same type card that fits in out HP 4Si would work, >>you should of course check. > >>-- >>Nathan "USENET" Janette >>PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu > >Precisely......hang it on the network with a ethernet card..........HP >sells one...........this is much faster than either the serial or parallel >ports...... > >******************************************************** > > Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. > Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington > NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu > > 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' > >********************************************************
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOS Partition blues Date: 20 Mar 1994 03:07:41 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2mgelt$2ri@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <9403190613.AA06406@PCS.CNU.EDU> In article <9403190613.AA06406@PCS.CNU.EDU>, Blake Patterson <bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU> wrote: > - > > Dunno if this is a software or hardware question, so I'm posdting >in both bases.... > > Recently, under NSi, my 120mb MSDOS 6.2 (non double-spaced) which >partition -- which is 60% full -- is said to have no psace free. [sorry, >no del key -- typos galore!] It actually has about 50mb free. And I >get errors wheneve I copy files from DOS to NS partitions in NS when >I try to run or unpack them. Any idea what this could be? Under >scandisk in dos, the DOS partition seems ok. This is a big problem. >Any ideas? > Known bug. Paritions >32 mb get hosed. Check Nextanswers. I wish they would fix this, but as time goes on I care less about windoze/dos. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gorndorf@adobe.com (Graham Orndorff) Subject: I want to paint it black Message-ID: <1994Mar20.032456.3777@adobe.com> Keywords: krylon Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 03:24:56 GMT Hi everybody, I am getting in a NeXTSTEP NEC Express II in a couple of weeks. Not to be terribly racist or anything, and not to malign NEC's fine exiting choice of "standard PC platinum colour" for their tower chassis, but unfortunately, the Express II is the wrong colour for my tastes. Does anyone out there have any experiences with PC painting? Anything in particular to look out for? Is there any particular brand of spray paint that is better than others? Any particular shade of Black that I should be interested in? :-) Thanks! -graham gorndorf@adobe.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization In-Reply-To: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca's message of Fri, 18 Mar 1994 17:37:39 GMT To: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar19184052@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar16000449@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2m701s$ebp@nic-nac.CSU.net> <CEDMAN.94Mar16110251@capitalist.princeton.edu> <CMvFMs.Dqr@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:40:51 GMT In article <CMvFMs.Dqr@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: I like the present c.s.n.* setup. As a developer, I want to see stuff that is relevant to NeXTSTEP regardless of the platform and having it all in one group provides cross-fertilisation that would be reduced if everything were segmented. Under the current arrangement I can get a very good feel for what is going on, what I ought to read/skip, and so on. I admit this depends on people writing good subject lines, and my possession of a fast modem. Fine. If you like the current setup just read all the comp.sys.next.hardware subgroups. Nothing will change for you except that you'll tend to see all the i386 articles, followed by all the m68k articles, followed by all the other NS hardware articles, instead of having them in random order just as right now -- surely a bearable price. As for "cross fertilization" I have very rarely observed it and then mostly only in the rude meaning of the term. I wouldn't want to have to subscribed to new groups every time a new platform showed up any more than skp over all kinds of stuff related to Windows (+) or DOS or something. How many others tend to use the -q flag on rn? New subgroups will only be created rarely and only after there is a high volume on the machine in question on c.s.n.h.misc, a RFD, a 2nd RFD, a CFV and a second CVFs. You won't be able to miss it. By the time a new processor gets its own group I can guarantee you'll have spent orders of magnitude more keystrokes on skipping articles on it in c.s.n.h.misc than it will cost you to subscribe to it if you so choose. Also, since I would be subscribing to all the NeXTSTEP related groups, I'd be getting crossposted duplication. I would object to that as it would be confusing as well as wasteful. Please. I do not wish to flame you. However, it has to be said that it would be a great advantage if people didn't start to post in a thread without at least scanning the articles in it for the last few day. Let me repeat (again) a few undisputed points. * Crossposts do not cost any significant amount of disk space or network bandwidth more than uncrossposted articles. * Every modern news reader (including rn) will only show you a crossposted article once regardless of how many of your subscribed groups it appears in. * The proposal clearly divides almost all articles currently in c.s.n.h among the new groups and discourages crossposts. So this is not a problem. Carl Edman
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CeBIT bomb: Float power Gecko 712/80i released Date: 18 Mar 1994 06:11:59 GMT Organization: The Home Of The Pilhuhn Message-ID: <2mbgnf$jb5@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org> Yesterday on the CeBIT fair I was told from a HP representative that from now on the 712/80i is shipped with the full possible floating point power (due to a DEC competition model that is tuned in floating point power). According to the 800 Series model with the same processor: 120 SPECfp92!!! All machines from now on are shipped upgraded (only a ROM change?). Old systems are upgraded free of charge (according to the HP representative). That means that the 712/80i has more int power than the 735i/755i and more float power than the 715/75 - and that for a fraction of the price. -- Jochen Richter Phone: +49-721-696922 Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax: +49-721-696988 D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org Germany jr@resy2.kfk.de (>50K)
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: track-ball recommendation is needed for a (black) CUBE Date: 20 Mar 1994 14:37:05 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2mhn2h$i92@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu Can you suggest me a track-ball for my (black) CUBE? Would a Kensington (Mac) work? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CeBIT bomb: Float power Gecko 712/80i released Date: 20 Mar 1994 14:58:44 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2mhob4$3td@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2mbgnf$jb5@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org> In article <2mbgnf$jb5@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org>, Jochen Richter <jr@sade.ka.sub.org> wrote: >Yesterday on the CeBIT fair I was told from a HP representative that from now >onthe712/80i is shipped with the full possible floating point power (due to a >DECcompetitionmodel that is tuned in floating point power). According to the >800 Series model with the same processor: 120 SPECfp92!!! Kind of sad to see the cynical "it's marketing, not hardware" guesses confirmed so clearly, though. -- Be sure to vote *YES* on rec.music.menudo!
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP uninstall Date: 20 Mar 1994 12:36:21 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU> I am in need of UNinstalling NeXTSTEP temporarily. I've a CD- ROM drive now, so reinstallation will be possible. I have reformatted my drive to DOS, and all is well, BUT I cannot seem to locate where exactly the NeXT boot0 loader is located. I would like to remove it. Can someone tell me how to do this? I assume it is possible. I thought I had (well, I did) erased all visible partitions. So where is it? I need this info badly and soon. Any info appreciated. Thanks. bp
From: Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with DEC DSP 5350S on 25Mhz '040 cube. Date: 20 Mar 1994 18:32:20 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mi4rkINN4km@clem.handheld.com> I'm trying to install a DEC DSP5350S (as reported in the boot-up) 3406MB hard disk. When I try to initialize it, I get the following error: Boot block extends past front porch Any ideas? It's formatted for 512 byte sectors, would 1024 do better? Any advice welcome, e-mail, and I'll summarize if there's interest. Thanks, Jim jmd@cube.handheld.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "You have to stand for something, NRA-ILA, GOA, CCRKBA, | or GSSF, VSRRA | you'll fall for anything." jmd@handheld.com | -- Allen's claimed campaign song title
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I want to paint it black Date: 20 Mar 1994 15:43:55 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2mhqvr$ajg@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <1994Mar20.032456.3777@adobe.com> In article <1994Mar20.032456.3777@adobe.com> gorndorf@adobe.com (Graham Orndorff) writes: |>Hi everybody, |> |>I am getting in a NeXTSTEP NEC Express II in a couple of weeks. |> |>Not to be terribly racist or anything, and not to malign NEC's fine exiting |>choice of "standard PC platinum colour" for their tower chassis, but |>unfortunately, the Express II is the wrong colour for my tastes. |> |>Does anyone out there have any experiences with PC painting? |>Anything in particular to look out for? Is there any particular brand of |>spray paint that is better than others? |>Any particular shade of Black that I should be interested in? |> |>:-) |> |>Thanks! |>-graham |>gorndorf@adobe.com Hi, I use a ColorSlab, and I bought a mini-tower chassis for my external drives, as I wanted everything in the same spot, and of course it had to be black, which I couldn t get. So I painted it using ordinary black spraypaint, and the only thing I noticed is that you should leave on a days in a ventilated room, as there might be some paintvapors, which aren t so pleasent. Otherwise it works for me. One advice: paint it several times, thin layers, that produces the longest-lasting coverage.... Best regards Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Work: Int + 45 43 43 43 03 Fax: Int + 45 43 43 59 70 _____________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: bud@slip4.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields) Subject: Help with Quantum PD1800S on Turbo Color Message-ID: <1994Mar20.234351.25342@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News) Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Distribution: na Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 23:43:51 GMT I'm having trouble formatting and putting a filesystem on my new Quantum PD1800S. It's a 1.8 gig SCSI drive. Here is what I know: Termination: This isn't it...the the drive has active termination, and it's the only external SCSI device in the chain. SCSI ID: Factory set to 6. This isn't it. SCSI1/SCSI2: According to the program 'sdformat', this is indeed a SCSI2 device, but the dealer says that the drive should auto-sense the signals from the SCSI bus and adapt accordingly. Also, sdformat did seem to succeed in doing a low-level format, but afterward, BuildDisk still refuses to format the disk. Disktab: One person told me that I'd need an /etc/disktab entry. Of course, the info in /etc/disktab says that BuildDisk is now able to auto-detect SCSI geometry, so I can't see why a disktab entry is needed. Nevertheless, this seems to be the only option left. --- So. Could some kind soul please send me info on how to get this thing up and running, and/or provide me with the info I need to write a disktab entry? I'd be VERY thankful... Jeff Fields jfields@heinous.isca.uiowa.edu University of Iowa (please email me any info...I'll summarize to the group)
From: skahng@mason1.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT CDROM Dr. Works with SUN ? Date: 21 Mar 1994 00:31:19 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <2mipsn$982@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone. I am looking for a CD-ROM drive. I want to use this for NeXT Black and SUN. I am going to buy NeXT-CDROM drive. Does NeXT CD-ROM drive work with SUN ? I heard that SUN needs 512byte/sector transfer to boot from CD-ROM (OS Install). How about NeXT-CDROM Dr? Anyone tried to boot SUN with NeXT-CDROM drive? <Soonam> soonam@isse.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Howard Yermish) Subject: New Cube - Help! Message-ID: <1994Mar21.011427.15897@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 01:14:27 GMT My university had a couple of cubes that were hooked up to the main network (ethernet) that they sold to a couple of us in the electronic music studio, knowing that we do lots of work on NeXTs. I got one and I need some help! I have a system on an optical disk (NS 3.0) and I'm sure that it shouldn't really be a problem, but I cannot boot from the optical drive. When I first got the cube powered on, it tried to boot from the ethernet connection (of which there is now none) and eventually dumped me into the ROM monitor. This is not a nice place to be especially if you are principally a musician! I tried the boot optical drive ("bod") command and it tells me that there is no optical disk. This is very strange because I had just put one in the drive. The machine even helped with the last part by sucking it into itself. Well, even after powering down and changing the boot drive to the optical drive instead of the ethernet, it still cannot do what it needs to do. This leaves me with two problems. 1. How do I get the machine to boot the optical drive so I can start setting up my system, and 2. How do I get the optical disk out?? Thanks for any help. I very much appreciate it. Howard Yermish hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu Eastman School of Music
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Message-ID: <1994Mar21.035150.15228@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <CEDMAN.94Mar19184052@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 03:51:50 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Mar19184052@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <CMvFMs.Dqr@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: Far too much on this topic, and in the wrong group to boot. Please Carl, and others, take it to the proper news.* newsgroup. I've already voted (NO ,NO, NO), and everyone else who cares probably has already too, so let's let it drop. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: wjs@manatee.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help! Can't write boot sector for NS/Intel machine... Date: 20 Mar 1994 20:19:52 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <2mj798$6af@manatee.omnigroup.com> We used BuildDisk on a 3.2 NS/Intel machine to make a SCSI disk for another NS/Intel machine, but when we try to boot from this new disk, the SCSI controller complains about no "16H" or something. (Sorry for the vagueness; the disk is no longer in that machine.) The SCSI controller is an Adaptec 1542c. I assume that the problem is that the BIOS is looking for a boot sector it recognizes, and BuildDisk didn't write the one that asks, "n for nextstep, d for dos..." Anyone know what to do to make a bootable SCSI NS/Intel disk? We're trying to make OmniWeb and OmniImageFilter work better on Intel machines, and actually having a working machine would sure help. Thanks, -Wil Shipley Omni Development, Inc.
From: wjs@manatee.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: List of decent monitors? Date: 20 Mar 1994 20:22:55 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <2mj7ev$6bd@manatee.omnigroup.com> We're looking for a decent 17"+ color monitor for our no-name NS/Intel machine, and I have no idea where to look to get a good price on one. I'm looking for something of the NEC or Trinitron type of quality, although I'm not brand-loyal. Can anyone point me to this kind of info? -Wil Shipley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Clinton Wong) Subject: OD and non-NeXT, printer Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Message-ID: <Cn01Bu.D3L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 05:16:42 GMT Organization: Purdue Data Network Is the SCSI controller on the NeXT optical disk generic enough to be used with computers other than a 680x0 NeXT? (ie: are the SCSI signals the same as other devices, so that read, write, eject, verify, and format are the same as something like a Syquest?) Also, is there any public documentation that describes how to send data to a NeXT 400 dpi printer? (Ie: to the point that I could write my own driver for my non-NeXT?) Clinton Wong, wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: boot problem - errno 2 Date: 20 Mar 1994 21:47:04 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2mjcco$ev3@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <2mg6t3$qsp@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Chip Sieglinger (chipsig@kaiwan.com) wrote: : I'm totally stumped. I'm trying to get an initialized Seagate drive to install : on a colorstation which was without any harddrive. I have a bootable Bernoulli : cartridge, which will boot the machine by it's lonesome Thanks for the help all, I got the drive up and running finally. The problem was scsi conflicts, due in part to a full scsi chain. Chip . -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat desert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
From: mckinlay@lcac1.loras.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems printing to an HP IIIsi Date: 21 Mar 1994 01:24:25 -0500 Organization: Digital Fix Development Sender: sanguish@digifix.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mjeip$eet@digifix.digifix.com> I have a NeXTstation running 3.0 connected serially to an HP IIIsi printer with the duplex option. I want to use a new PostScript 2 SIMM in the printer, but when I do, the duplex no longer works. I've tried numerous ppds, some specifically for the 3si, others (at the suggestion of HP) for the 4si. None of them, including the PS2 driver in 3.1 for Intel (current version and has the same edit date as what is included in 3.2, confirmed by NeXT), works correctly with the PS2 SIMM. If I take it out and replace it with the PS level 1 SIMM, all works as it should. Here's what happens: when printing, the PS2 SIMM runs the pages through the duplex ... but nothing is printed on the back of the page! The second page also runs through the duplexer, but comes out as page two! Go figure ... For the truly strange ... the PS2 ppds work just fine with the PS1 SIMM. Has anyone else experienced this problem? More importantly, does anyone else out there have a 3si >>with<< the duplex option that also >>>works<<<!! (With the PS2 SIMM, of course.) If so, please share with me what wisdom I need to make this darn thing work the way it should. Oops ... I forgot to mention that I've tried both the software duplex setting and turning duplex on at the control panel. Neither works, though both run the pages through the duplexer. I hope someone who has the good fortune of being able to work on an HP 712 running beta NextStep can respond to this plea for help. If anything should have the right code to make this work, HP-NextStep should. Or maybe there is just aproblem with my SIMM (or all PS2 SIMMs, but how can I tell?) ... Lastly, for your reference, here are the PS versions of my SIMMs and ppds: PostScript 1 SIMM - version 52.3, device specific version 400 firmware datecode 19910826 V6.7 C int font datecode 19910813 V3.10 PostScript 2 SIMM - version 2012.021, device specific version 4 firmware datecode 19921210 V2.200 E int font datecode 19921210 V2.200 E Working level 1 driver - Format Version 4.1 File Version 2.5 Version 52.3, last edited Jun 1, 1993 Typical nonworking level 2 - Format 4.0, File 1.0 Version 2012.021, last edited Nov 11, 1992 Thanks in advance for your help! Mike mckinlay@lcac1.loras.edu -- - Scott Anguish - sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail) next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: eCesys "Road Warrior" Eval units available Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 02:42:53 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <hi8PgVl.ecesys@delphi.com> eCesys is in the process of replacing its "Road Warrior" demo machines which have been used as Evaluation Units at different customer sites. All of them will be coming available within the next 1-3 weeks, and will be offered at reduced prices. All units are in good condition, but are being replaced with our upgraded pentium products which we will be rolling out in the near future. If you have an interest in any of these Wingine-based machines, please send an email to ecesys@delphi.com and we can forward the detailed configs and prices. eCesys, Inc.
From: Aris Theocharides <aris@xedoc.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Cirrus Logic VLB Driver Date: 21 Mar 1994 09:08:41 GMT Organization: Connect.com.au Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mjo6p$8gr@yarrina.connect.com.au> With the source already available on /NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit/CirrusLogicGD542X for the ISA driver, is there anyone out there who can easily and quickly make a version that will set the VLB card in 60Hz mode, at 1024x768x2? It seems (see copied post) that the attempt at initialisation by the current driver leaves the VLB card in the 72Hz mode, at 1024x768x2. -- Aris Theocharides Xedoc Melbourne, Australia Begin forwarded article: >I have installed version NeXTstep version 3.2 on my i486DX2/66Mhz >equipped with 3 SCSI disks, 20 megabytes of memory, Cirrus Logic >VLB graphics adapter (with 1 megabytes of memory) and a mouse. > >The problem is, the Cirrus Driver included in the NeXTstep release >couldn't initialize the adapter to the desired resolution (1024* >768*2 60 Hz). I would also like to use the adapter in 1024*768*8 >mode but the driver has no options for that kind of operation. >The default VGA driver works, but shows only 800x600 pixels. > >Is there a replacement Cirrus driver? Where? Pointers to Intel >patches/drivers? > >Thanks. > >-- >-- > _____________________________________________________________ > Miikka Putaala Tatunkuja 6 90540 Oulu Finland > putaala@rieska.oulu.fi putaala@cc.oulu.fi > Phone [home] 358 (81) 362430 > Phone [elsewhere] (9400) 388400 >
From: bscott@bnext.gatech.edu (Ben Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for a 1gig+ disk drive...who's best Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 21 Mar 1994 14:29:02 GMT Organization: Go Jackets Distribution: world Message-ID: <bscott-210394093443@carnadmin.gatech.edu> I have an older cube which has been upgraded to an 040 machine. 660 internal drive MO drive too I now need more fast disk space. I was wondering who do you think makes the best bang for the buck SCSI drive for a Cube? Thanks Ben bscott@bnext.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,git.next From: daver@harmony.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Subject: Help with NeXT printer paper problem... Message-ID: <daver.764262438@cc.gatech.edu> Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:07:18 GMT My printer is having problems with paper feeding, and I would surely appreciate any kind of help... Here are the symptoms: - When I print something, it pulls the paper about 2-3 inches into the printer, but then quits. A dialog and the English woman inform me that there is a paper jam. At this point, if I open and shut the printer, it will pull the paper the rest of the way through. The printout will be fine except for being 2-3 inches offset from normal. - The above symptoms are the same if I try manual feed. - When the power goes on, there is a loud "kthunk" sound that seems to come from the big roller that pulls paper from the tray. - Using an older OS (2.0 off OD) and changing the toner cartridge have no effect. It seems quite likely to me that there is something wrong with the big cam-like rubber wheel that pulls the paper from the tray. The printer has been in a box for about a year; before I put it in the box it worked fine. I moved the box around a bit, and I didn't use the tan lock-down thingy, so I'm afraid that somehow that might be the source of the problem. However, the box was not abused, and except for the kthunk sound on power-up nothing looks or sounds obviously broken. I'd be incredibly grateful to anyone who could offer some help. I'd really love to hear how I could fix this myself. (I'm not shy about taking things apart if I know what I'm supposed to be doing.) I'd also love to hear where would be a good place to take my printer to get it fixed if I can't do it myself, especially if it's a place in the Atlanta area. Thanks, David Rosenbaum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP uninstall Message-ID: <CMzEw5.CC7@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:12:04 GMT In article <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU> bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) writes: > I am in need of UNinstalling NeXTSTEP temporarily. I've a CD- >ROM drive now, so reinstallation will be possible. I have reformatted >my drive to DOS, and all is well, BUT I cannot seem to locate where >exactly the NeXT boot0 loader is located. I would like to remove it. >Can someone tell me how to do this? I assume it is possible. I [munch] You should try the (undocumented) option on fdisk: fdisk /mbr This should get rid of the NeXT boot stuff. david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adapterc 1542CF card (Addressing > 16MB?) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:38:34 GMT Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <2mkf1qE978@uni-erlangen.de> References: <2m5724$2eb@news.u.washington.edu> <CMr1CE.n2n@utstat.toronto.edu> <2m9rd6$jvp@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> Keywords: Adaptec, SCSI, ISA kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) writes: >>>... >>>"16-bit Adaptec 1542 ISA SCSI disk controller" >>> >>the way to go. VL/ISA is less expensive. >>... >Can I take it then that NSFIP knows not to try to address > 16MB with an >Adaptec? It seems like enough people are using it that this would be >obvious, but I'd like to check. The ISA-BUS is limited to 16 MB, but NS handles the upper 16 MB (or more) Without DMA. this means: The controller puts the data into the lower memory and the CPU pushes it up above the 16 Megs limit... Some people say, it doesn't get slower. The most say, only a little bit, and I say: I don't know! A single-user will not recognice it, because the CPU has to work for the controller only during the file-transfers, so only background-processes will make your computer slower. Best way to find out: Try it! Bye, Harry --- ======================================================== Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler Uni-Erlangen hdwoernd@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca Subject: Re: Help with Quantum PD1800S on Turbo Color Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <ijeff.94Mar21113554@jasper.maeng> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <1994Mar20.234351.25342@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: fj Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:35:54 GMT I doubt very much if you will get it working at all. I spent about 15 hours messing around with th1800s. On my Oh-30 cube, with an internal Maxstor, I could format the drive no problem. On any 040 machine with Seagate disks attached internaly or externaly there was no way I could get the drive to work. My guess is that you have either the ST1480 400MB internal drive or the 250 MB seagate drive (model ???) on your Turbo machine. I tried ST1200, ST1480, ST766, ST1650 drives in combination on about 3 or 4 machines. Any of these machines would work OK provided that *only* the 1800s was connected. I called Quantum to no avail, although there is one unmarked jumper near the SCSI header that controls terminating power options in addition to the termination on/off jumper. My suggestion is to call Quantum and tell them that it dosn't work. Then go out and purchase a Seagate ST11900 drive for slightly more money, slightly faster operation, and slightly less capacity. If anyone can get an 1800s to work with a Seagate drive I'd like to hear about it. It *seems* to be a nice drive. --- Ian Jefferson ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca ijeff@computeractive.on.ca NeXT mail please! Voice 613 788-2600 ext 5636
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: List of decent monitors? Message-ID: <1994Mar21.083732.13815@cc.usu.edu> Date: 21 Mar 94 08:37:32 MDT References: <2mj7ev$6bd@manatee.omnigroup.com> Organization: Utah State University In article <2mj7ev$6bd@manatee.omnigroup.com>, wjs@manatee.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: > We're looking for a decent 17"+ color monitor for our no-name NS/Intel machine, > and I have no idea where to look to get a good price on one. I'm looking for > something of the NEC or Trinitron type of quality, although I'm not > brand-loyal. I have a Nanao T560i, and it is VERY nice. Tritron tube, excellent colors...it was rated as the best 17" by one of the PC mags. They also recently rated IBM's (gasp) new 17" monitor as nice as the Nanao, and MUCH cheaper. I am not sure of the model number though. I also have a Sony 17se, I it is pretty good to. I would seriously check out the IBM model. I have heard very good things about it and it is only about $1100. ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: Query: Bernoulli 150 Message-ID: <Cn0zw1.BFK@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval References: <2mb7le$qte@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 17:43:12 GMT In article <2mb7le$qte@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) writes: > I bought a Bernoulli "Transportable 150" in December, from MacConnection. > I got the drive with self termination and the two, as opposed to one, SCSI > ports. They included a five pack of 150mb cartridges. Anyway, the setup was > 'plug-and-play', but instantly. The carts initialize in about 10 seconds, > (I thought it didn't initialize because it was so fast). It is without doubt > the best $500 I've spent. Could you explain why you got self termination? ----------------------------- TWO SCSI ports? Can one do without these? Thks! btw, I called McConnection, the T150 is at the price you mention, but with one cartridge only, Xtra cartridges are ~ $100. You got a real good deal! --- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Antoine Gautier | | Departement OSD, FSA | | Universite Laval, Quebec, PQ | | Internet: Antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ken@kgcc.demon.co.uk (Ken Green) Subject: Re: CeBIT bomb: Float power Gecko 712/80i released Message-ID: <CMzDxx.1In@kgcc.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:51:32 GMT References: <2mbgnf$jb5@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org> Organization: Ken Green Followup-To: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Jochen Richter (jr@sade.ka.sub.org) wrote: > That means that the 712/80i has more int power than the 735i/755i and more > float power than the 715/75 - and that for a fraction of the price. Not for long I guess. Dec Computing, 16th March, carries a couple of articals that talk about the future of HP-PA. This summer HP is due to start shipping a new Processor the PA7150, its not tuned for SMP so it'll only be available on the 700 series, 720,730,750 family and the nect generation workstations ( what ever they might be ). This they clain runs at 125MHz and delivers 135SpecINT92, no figues given for floating point. The artical then goes onto talk about PA-7200, PA-8XXX and PA-9XXX. The PA-7200 is targeted for 1995, hopefully sooner, this is tuned for SMP has both an on chip cache assist and external cache. This will be used on both the 700 and 800 series, including MP 700 series systems. Has anyone else seens anything any more conclusive on these devices. -- __________________email ken@kgcc.demon.co.uk ____compuserve 100101,3046_______ Ken Green Computer Consultancy Bodega, Jasmine Cres. Princes Risborough, Bucks. HP27 0AB, U.K.
From: kent@cs.mcgill.ca (Kent TSE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q]: Supra Fax Modem with NEXTSTEP 3.0 Date: 21 Mar 1994 19:42:42 GMT Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mktbi$2sv@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Hello, I have a Supra Fax Modem which I want to use on my NeXT running 3.0. I have it defined using the PrintManager and it does seem to dial and pick up incoming faxes, but when I try send a fax, the fax machine gets an empty page and the job is still queued up. Similarly, when I fax to the machine, it picks up and then hangs up. Does anyone have a Supra Fax Modem hooked to their NeXTstation? Thanks. - Kent
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Message-ID: <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen References: <CMw97q.8vw@ucdavis.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 21:05:23 GMT David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if : there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs : headless - without monitor or keyboard. : I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure : it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless : client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial : ports. : Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or : help will be much appreciated. Get a Soundbox! Then you can turn on the computer by plugging in a keyboard in the Soundbox. Meinrad -- Meinrad Zeller Foehrenweg 1 D-37077 Goettingen Tel.: +49-551-300095 Email: mzeller@gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: anjrober@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson) Subject: Cleaning an OD Message-ID: <Cn1DK0.70t@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 22:38:24 GMT I have an old '40 cube with the OD, well every 6 months or so the OD dies and it needs cleaned. The last time I had it cleaned it was $56. I had the money then but now, no way. I was wondering if anyone knows how or has any hints on cleaning an OD. Any help would be appreciated. I am basically blindly taking my cube apart in the hopes to get it clean. Any help on what and were to clean and or check would be great. Also if you could email me, I rarely ever have time to read this group. Well thanks to all. :-) --Andrew Robertson-- -- --Andrew Robertson-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IU Dept. of Environmental Health and Safety 855-5252 IU School of Journalism NeXT mail accepted
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Query: Bernoulli 150 Date: 21 Mar 1994 15:15:24 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2ml9qc$1qe@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <2mac3n$nkf@nic.cerf.net> Andy Lee (andylee@nic.cerf.net) wrote: : Does anyone know if the Bernoulli "MacTransportable MultiDisk 150" : would work on a NeXT? It sells for $519.95 at MacWarehouse --- a : really good price IMHO. It will work just fine Andy, but you want the Transportable that has the dual scsi ports, not just one. The dual job also has a scsi address swi- tch and self termination. The MacTransportable I believe does not. Otherwise they are wonderful, fast, easy and quick to initialize and a very nice backup or spare boot disk. Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat desert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OD and non-NeXT Date: 22 Mar 1994 03:48:54 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2mlpr6$921@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <Cn01Bu.D3L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <Cn01Bu.D3L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Clinton Wong) writes: > Is the SCSI controller on the NeXT optical disk generic enough to be > used with computers other than a 680x0 NeXT? (ie: are the SCSI signals > the same as other devices, so that read, write, eject, verify, and format > are the same as something like a Syquest?) > This comes up all the time. The MO drive from NeXT cubes is *NOT* SCSI. I recall reading here that it's some kind of deranged ESDI varient and that the drives have next to no smarts on them. That's all I know. -- David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Just any CD ROM **WILL NOT** work Message-ID: <Cn1Lur.CK7@agedwards.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:37:38 GMT References: <CEDMAN.94Mar17221859@capitalist.princeton.edu> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote: : In article <2mase2$69i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: : In article <CEDMAN.94Mar16173427@capitalist.princeton.edu> : cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: : : > No, just about any SCSI CD-ROM will do, just as virtually every SCSI : > hard disk will do. : : I bought a NEC SCSI CD ROM and had to return it because it was : incompatible with NextStep (3.2 on black hardware). I'm afraid I : don't remember what model number of NEC it was. In any case, I : advise you to buy your CD ROM from a store with a refund policy. : Almost certainly a setup problem. The modern series of NEC CD-ROMs is : even listed in the hardware compatibility guide as specifically : compatible with NS (in addition, I know people who actually do use : them). I, too, had problems with an NEC SCSI CD-ROM drive. Specifically, it was the NEC MultiSpin-38. Fought the damn beast for a few evenings then returned it. Borrowed a black drive from a friend and was done with the entire deal. The 38 seems to be "special" and has some kind of internal self-termination. Incidentally, I was doing this on a Color Station. My 2 cents... -cj -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
From: chin@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu (Chin Wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: NeXT CD-ROM drive on Mac Date: 22 Mar 1994 04:20:18 GMT Organization: Chemistry Dept. U. of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <CHIN.94Mar21232018@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu> Does anyone have experience connecting NeXT CD-ROM drive to Mac? Specifically, I want to use NeXT CD-ROM drive on my Powerbook 170 by connecting the drive to SCSI port but Powerbook shows question mark while starting up. The manual says I might need a drive for it but I can't be sure. -- chin@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu
From: tspencer@kiwi.mccaw.com (Tim Spencer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 21 Mar 94 18:46:52 Organization: /Net/kiwi/Users/tspencer/.organization Message-ID: <TSPENCER.94Mar21184652@kiwi.mccaw.com> References: <CMw97q.8vw@ucdavis.edu> <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> In-reply-to: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de's message of Mon, 21 Mar 1994 21:05:23 GMT In article <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) writes: David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if : there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs : headless - without monitor or keyboard. : I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure : it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless : client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial : ports. : Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or : help will be much appreciated. Get a Soundbox! Then you can turn on the computer by plugging in a keyboard in the Soundbox. If you have an ADB turbo box... Or actually, I think that there are some non ADB boxes that have this ROM feature... Anyways, if you have the right ROM version, you can specify in the Preferences app for the machine to turn on right after powerfail. Then, if you specify in the ROM monitor for the console to be on serial port A, and disable the loginwindow in /etc/ttys, the machine will boot up as soon as it gets power, and all console i/o will go out serial port A. We have several here in our room for NXHosting the few remaining black only apps that we need. It's been a while since I set one up like that, so the details above may be a bit vague, but the intent is correct at least. Hope you can use this info! Have fun!! -- Tim Spencer: McCaw NeXT Technical Analyst tim.spencer@mccaw.com (206)915-5988 :-) NeXTMail welcome!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) Subject: Re: Hate my Keyboard! Message-ID: <schwettCn27rq.BJB@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2mdt7v$ati@Mars.mcs.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:31:02 GMT Tom, While I haven't used a genuine black NeXT keyboard, the keyboards sold by Gateway 2000 don't make that horrifying clack, and the non "anykey" model is nice and compact. It feels very similar to the ADB Keyboards used be Apple... Unfortunately I don't know who the original manufacturer is... Hope This Helps, Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) Subject: Re: The new ATI mach64 graphics card Message-ID: <schwettCn27zC.BtF@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1994Mar16.190722.23605@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:35:36 GMT Have you seen this board yet? All I've heard are rumors... but the rumors say that it might ship with a NeXTStep driver! Hurray! Mark
From: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Voice mail software?? Date: 22 Mar 1994 13:57:28 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics Message-ID: <2mmtg8$ds0@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Keywords: moden voice mail message Before replacing my broken answering machine, I would like to find out if software/hardware exists to use my NeXT and modem as an answering machine. Suggestions or reviews appreciated. -- Sherwin Singer internet: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu Dept. of Chemistry bitnet: singer@ohstpy Ohio State University (614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer toner gunk Date: 22 Mar 1994 14:49:51 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mn0if$lfs@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Keywords: printer toner I just got a brand new NeXTPrinter. When they sent out the printer they sent it with the toner cartrige after telling me that it was a bad idea... Anyway there was toner everywhere.. but I managed to clean it up... I an still getting streaks. I took out the toner cartrige again and discovered streaks on the roller on the cartrige itself. I cleaned it off and voila! No more streaks.. on the next print job.. but when I printed a second job out it had streaks again.. checked that roller out and sure enough there were streaks on it. Is there anything I can do short of getting a new toner cartrige? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Not NeXTMail) | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3com etherlink still buggy ? Date: 22 Mar 1994 16:22:59 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2mn613$56c@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <CMqI26.Bx@moksha.uucp> Keywords: bad, bad ethernet board Hi, I've the same experience. Work around: do a 'ping anywhere_but_the_NFS_Server_itself' on the NFS_server This brings mine to life again (so just for a few seconds to the next hang-up!-), but over an over... Good Luck, Michael
Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jazz@hal.com (Jason Zions) Subject: Re: CeBIT bomb: Float power Gecko 712/80i released In-Reply-To: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu's message of 20 Mar 1994 14:58:44 GMT Message-ID: <JAZZ.94Mar22134807@jazz.hal.com> Sender: news@hal.com Organization: HaL Computer Systems References: <2mbgnf$jb5@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org> <2mhob4$3td@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: 22 Mar 1994 19:48:07 GMT In article <2mhob4$3td@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) writes: >Yesterday on the CeBIT fair I was told from a HP representative that >from now onthe712/80i is shipped with the full possible floating point >power (due to a DECcompetitionmodel that is tuned in floating point >power). According to the 800 Series model with the same processor: 120 >SPECfp92!!! Kind of sad to see the cynical "it's marketing, not hardware" guesses confirmed so clearly, though. Yeah, but at least they fixed it faster than they did the last time some idiot with an MBA pulled something stupid like this, and at least they're upgrading everyone who bought a crippled 712/80i for free. Every so often, HP manages to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, rather than the other 'way round (which has been their corporate strategy for years, and has now been adopted by IBM). > Be sure to vote *YES* on rec.music.menudo! Umm, doesn't that belong under rec.food? :-) Jazz
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will 60 ns simms work in a NSturboColor? Date: 22 Mar 1994 19:36:33 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2mnhc1$l2d@wave.aoml.erl.gov> I have a good 72 pin 60 ns 16 MB simm that I had to take out of our Gateway due to a flakey simm socket. I dont want to go thru the nightmare of sending the mb back to GW (they seem to totally screw up every dealing we have with them) I would like to use it in one of our turbo color NeXTstations but it is 60 ns and the other simms in the station (2 16's and 2 8's right now) are 70 ns. Can anyone advise me if this will cause any problems? Will it just slow the new simm down to 70 ns? -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: zqx@siesta.cs.wustl.edu (Zeqing Xia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell 466MX/ATI Ultra Proc/NS3.1 install problem Date: 22 Mar 1994 16:24:08 -0600 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO Message-ID: <2mnr68$bt4@siesta.cs.wustl.edu> Hi, everyone, I have a problem installing the Dell 466MX with APT Ultra Pro card. The machine told me that some "frame buffer" not linked into the application. I wonder if someone can tell me the solution. Thanks a lot. Fred
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: The new ATI mach64 graphics card Message-ID: <1994Mar22.233243.13642@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1994Mar16.190722.23605@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <schwettCn27zC.BtF@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 23:32:43 GMT In article <schwettCn27zC.BtF@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) writes: >Have you seen this board yet? > >All I've heard are rumors... but the rumors say that it might ship with >a NeXTStep driver! > >Hurray! Hurray? We'll have to see if this card really makes NEXTSTEP faster. On the one hand, NEXTSTEP gets no benefit from the mach64 accelerator chip. On the other hand, the VRAM and RAMDAC are wider, suggesting a potential doubling of throughput. Unfortunately, neither PCI nor VLB support 64-bit transfers yet, so the card may be bus limited. I'm reading from the ATI FAX Info sheet (905-882-2600, doc #1030). Here's a summary: * 2 MB or 4 MB VRAM * 2 MB upgradeable to 4 MB by customer * True 64-bit wide VRAM, RAMDAC, and accelerator chip architecture * 24-bit color to 1280x1024 (doesn't say what refresh rate) * PCI and VLB available April '94, ISA in May '94 * WinSwitch on-the-fly resolution setup (don't have to reboot Windows) * Superior DOS performance Benchmarks, higher numbers are better, tested with 2 MB PCI version at 60Hz using P5-66 system with 256K cache and 200MB disk: Winbench 4.0 PCBench 7.01 800x600x24 (DOS) --------------------------------------------------- Graphics Pro Turbo 104.5 8,482 Matrox MGA II 88.6 993 Diamond Viper 78.1 2,953 Too bad they didn't bench the miroCRYSTAL 4Mb too. There is no mention of a NEXTSTEP driver. Even though PCI doesn't support 64-bit transfers, the PCI and Pentium combination could be a big win with the Pentium optimized PCI burst modes. It's no surprise that ATI used a PCI/Pentium to do the benchmarks. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: cod13@keele.ac.uk (JongNamKim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Extron Board (RGB 111, RGB 112) Date: 23 Mar 1994 01:09:47 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mo4sr$ii4@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> Have you used "Extron Board"? I would like to hear any advice for this board. This board allows NeXT computers to display video on a large screen data projector or monotor. I would like to have more than 50" monitor. Thanks for your advice in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Which Sound Card Do YOU Want? Message-ID: <1994Mar23.011352.19078@adobe.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 01:13:52 GMT PLEASE REPLY VIA E-MAIL. I have a Pentium VLB/ISA system. I tried a Pro Audio 16 Basic. It can't do sampling above 22Khz/16-bit stereo without crashing my system. It can't use any 16-bit DMA on my system without hanging my SCSI bus. This isn't NeXT's fault, since the card fails in DOS/Windows as well. I don't want the Microsoft WSS, and the others aren't relevant. So tell me which sound card I should get. I don't want to waste time and money writing a driver, but if I have to, I will. If I do, I'll make sources available shareware. If you are working on a driver for some card, I'll gladly use your driver instead, even if you want a little money for it. Note: your driver has to do full 44khz 16-bit stereo record and play in NEXTSTEP, and the card must do the same obviously, along with good Windows support, Wave MIDI, and good DOS game support. Here are some options. Send me your vote via E-mail by April 1st. I'll send the results to NeXT to help motivate them to do a new driver. 1) SoundBlaster 16. [*] 2) Orchid SoundWave 32. [**] 3) Reveal SoundFXWave 32. [**] 4) Turtle Beach Monterey (no DOS game support, but the best MIDI). 5) Turtle Beach Tahiti+Maui. 5) Advanced Gravis Ultrasound. [***] 6) Other: (name it) [*] I know of two people doing 8-bit drivers for NEXTSTEP, and I have the BSD/GNU 8-bit driver sources. If someone (like NeXT) is doing a 16-bit driver, please let me know. Note: Creative Labs driver kit is only $99. [**] I believe these cards claim Microsoft WSS compatability, so there is a chance that they will "just work" in NEXTSTEP with the WSS driver. Has anyone tried this? [***] This card has lots of problems (no 16-bit record without an optional upgrade, poor Windows support, small 256K Wave sample store, etc.), but seems to be very popular, and has a GNU/Linux driver available. I'll consider it only if someone can convince me that it is overwhelmingly the best choice. I really don't want to write a driver, but if I'm forced to, I will, and if so, I'd rather that other people got some use out of it, so I don't want to get a card that no one else uses. What do you say? Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Message-ID: <1994Mar22.161509.4416@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <TSPENCER.94Mar21184652@kiwi.mccaw.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:15:09 GMT In article <TSPENCER.94Mar21184652@kiwi.mccaw.com> tspencer@kiwi.mccaw.com (Tim Spencer) writes: > In article <743MBO6K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller) writes: > > David Bradford (dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu) wrote: > > : I have two NeXTStations networked and I would like tho know if > : there is software/hardware out there to operate one or more slabs > : headless - without monitor or keyboard. > > : I figure that the biggest problem is turning the machine on. I figure > : it will probably boot off of the net if I set it up as a diskless > : client. Then I could either remotely login or "tip" over via the serial > : ports. > > : Does anyone have any experience with this? Any suggestions or > : help will be much appreciated. > > Get a Soundbox! Then you can turn on the computer by plugging in > a keyboard in the Soundbox. > > If you have an ADB turbo box... Or actually, I think that > there are some non ADB boxes that have this ROM feature... Anyways, > if you have the right ROM version, you can specify in the Preferences > app for the machine to turn on right after powerfail. Then, if you > specify in the ROM monitor for the console to be on serial port A, and > disable the loginwindow in /etc/ttys, the machine will boot up as soon > as it gets power, and all console i/o will go out serial port A. > > We have several here in our room for NXHosting the few > remaining black only apps that we need. It's been a while since I set > one up like that, so the details above may be a bit vague, but the > intent is correct at least. > > Hope you can use this info! Have fun!! > > > -- > Tim Spencer: McCaw NeXT Technical Analyst tim.spencer@mccaw.com > (206)915-5988 :-) NeXTMail welcome!! If your NeXT doesn't support the "power-on at power-off" ROM facility, you can build a plug for it that shorts out the right pins. Here's a copy of some mail I got with the details (we are doing this with a NeXT 25mhz station, and it works fine): From: shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 12:52:24 -0500 To: "Serge J. Goldstein" <serge@Princeton.EDU> Subject: Re: Using serial port A as an alternate console Reply-To: shayman@Objectario.com Aha, here it is (in my old "User's Reference" document from the NeXTSTEP 1.0 days) Pin 6 is "MON PWR SWITCH" If you short this to one of the ground pins - pins 13-19 are ground on this connector - then that's the same as the power key being pressed. good luck, steve Serge J. Goldstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: sound problems in Pentium/PCI/ISA Message-ID: <1994Mar22.212420.2318@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 21:24:20 GMT Hi. I'm trying to get sound to work in a Pentium PCI/ISA machine. [Please don't bother telling me sound does *not* work in an ISA machine, 'cause it works pretty well (not perfectly --but pretty well) in my 486 VL/ISA]. I'm not getting the best results on the Pentium with a ProAudio Spectrum. I'm thinking about trying the Microsoft Sound System, but I wonder what kind of results other users have had with this option. Please share any comments. Thanks, Phil G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571 -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: DPMS screen saver for an ATI GUP? Message-ID: <Cn3woJ.50M@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 07:26:43 GMT Has anyone seen one of these yet? -- Philip McDunnough University of Toronto philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: jng@comp.hkbc.hk (Dr. Joseph Ng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which display card and Network card? Date: 23 Mar 1994 09:07:40 GMT Organization: HONG KONG BAPTIST COLLEGE Message-ID: <2mp0ss$2j8c@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I received three email so far about which network card for NeXTSTEP. They all recommended the Intel Express Card. Two of them told me that the 3Com card hangs after about an hour. As for display card, one told me that S3-805 is OK, and ATI Ultra Pro is slow. The display card I mentioned are the local-bus version. I heard that the PCI version is pretty fast. Just a summary up to this point. --Joe Ng-- jng@comp.hkbc.hk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: 040 socketed in Cube? Message-ID: <CMy41I.61r@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <CMuD1y.LIs@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 04:20:05 GMT In article <CMuD1y.LIs@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Clinton Wong) writes: #This is a strange question, but if you own an 040 Cube and have seen the #inside of your NeXT, I was wondering if the 68040 chip is socketed in #the motherboard? (In other words, is it removable?) Mine is, but I do recall that some aren't. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: OD and non-NeXT, printer Message-ID: <Cn04s3.6oB@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <Cn01Bu.D3L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 06:31:15 GMT In article <Cn01Bu.D3L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Clinton Wong) writes: # Is the SCSI controller on the NeXT optical disk generic enough to be #used with computers other than a 680x0 NeXT? (ie: are the SCSI signals #the same as other devices, so that read, write, eject, verify, and format #are the same as something like a Syquest?) # It's not SCSI. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Message-ID: <Cn4FKp.2Bt@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2mc593$15r@nntp.crl.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 14:14:48 GMT Motorola just announced a clock doubler for the '040 ala 486DX/2. THe new chip is a 66/33MHz part surface mount with internal clock doubling. Now what we need is a surface mount to pin adapter. I've seen a couple on surface mount 486sx parts to fit them into existing boards w/out a redesign. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 23 Mar 1994 10:30:35 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mq1sb$n0b@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> <2m940k$eaj@nntp.crl.com> Samuel M. Goldberger (smg@orb.com) wrote: : In article <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) : writes: : > : > I really doubt that this will work on a NeXT. The reason is that the Mac : > doesn't use a lot of the facilities of the 68040 (ferinstance, it always does : > autovectored interrupts) that the NeXT uses. Accelerator designers typically : The bad news is: : 1) It will work only with 25 mhz hardware at this time. : 2) Matt's analysis may well be right--it seems logical. : I have had info that there will be an 68060 board out this summer for the black machines. The tale is it will be 50 and 66mhz, dependent on the turbo or not status of your machine. I can try to dig out the info I saw on it, unless it's at someone's fingertips. The price will be <about> $1500/$1800 for the 50/66. Anyone have further scoop? -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat desert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
From: ambi@world.std.com (Mike Amirault) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to buy miroCrystal card?? Date: 23 Mar 1994 19:22:18 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <2mq4ta$dgk@news.bu.edu> Anyone know a cheap place where I can buy one of these? I called miro and they said they retailed for $899. I thought I saw a cheaper price somewhere.. -- Mike Amirault Kaizen Solutions, Inc. ambi@kaizen.com (617) 527-7648
From: dclemmer%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (David Clemmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP uninstall Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 23 Mar 1994 18:43:04 GMT Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ Message-ID: <2mq2joINNhcn@faatcrl.faa.gov> References: <CMzEw5.CC7@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> David Hill (hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca) wrote: : In article <9403201829.AA10156@PCS.CNU.EDU> bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) writes: : > I am in need of UNinstalling NeXTSTEP temporarily. I've a CD- : >ROM drive now, so reinstallation will be possible. I have reformatted : >my drive to DOS, and all is well, BUT I cannot seem to locate where : >exactly the NeXT boot0 loader is located. I would like to remove it. : >Can someone tell me how to do this? I assume it is possible. I : [munch] : You should try the (undocumented) option on fdisk: : fdisk /mbr : This should get rid of the NeXT boot stuff. : david : -- : david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more : voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. : nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein) and if that doesn't work (and i actually once got into such a situation with linux' lilo utility), try low-level formatting the disk... that _will get rid of the problem...:> of course, there's also the dd solution... i assume you could do this from NS (haven't yet used NS, myself :< ); that is, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 this wipes out the partition table and boot sector for the disk quite thoroughly... btw, that's the linux syntax for that... if anyone wants to correct that syntax for NS (assuming it's different... it might not be, tho... :) later, Dave "Geeks of All Nations, Compile!" ps: if this comes thru garbled, my apologies... something seems to be wrong with termcap here... *sigh*
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black Date: 23 Mar 1994 19:12:34 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <2mq4b2$9hg@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> <2m940k$eaj@nntp.crl.com> <2mq1sb$n0b@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> In article <2mq1sb$n0b@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>, Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> wrote: >I have had info that there will be an 68060 board out this summer for the black >machines. The tale is it will be 50 and 66mhz, dependent on the turbo or not >status of your machine. I can try to dig out the info I saw on it, unless it's >at someone's fingertips. The price will be <about> $1500/$1800 for the 50/66. Damn, this could shoot a big hole in my Suitable Intel Machine fund. Thing is, I sure hope this would work in Cubes, because that's what I have (two of). -- [Jess Anderson % anderson@doit.wisc.edu % Network Engineering Technology Group] [Systems Engineering Dept % Div of Information Technology % Univ of Wisconsin] [The University is the medium, not the voice. Opinions herein are mine alone.] [-------------> I didn't know it was impossible when I did it. <--------------]
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 23 Mar 1994 14:42:45 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2mq63l$gm@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP 712 (Gecko) + NS/FIP = HELP! Date: 23 Mar 1994 20:54:52 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2mqaas$t4j@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: Pre-Installed NSi 3.2 on HP 712 Keywords: Hewlett Packard, Gecko, NeXTStep My HP rep just informed me that I can have a 712/60 (aka Gecko) on my desk next week with the following config for < $6,000 US 17" monitor 1024 x 768 32 MB RAM (4 x 8 MB) 1 GB SCSI II Disk Drive 1.4 MB floppy keyboard The price include our 35% university discount. Problem is that he is unaware of NSi 3.2 coming pre-installed and the config/pricing sheets reflect the absence of NSi. I remember reading about the Gecko a couple of months ago on c.s.n.h., but didn't save the news....:(..... Does anyone have the definitive word on who/what/when/where/why the NS port to the HP 712 will become a reality? Thanks in advance, Jim ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: DanMac@world.std.com (Dan MacMillan) Subject: Novice advice Message-ID: <Cn5143.3vy@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:00:01 GMT Hi all. A friend and I are looking to purchase a used Next of some sort, but need information. We have NextStep & the developer's stuff on CD for the Intel, but for the cost of a platform to run it own, it seems like we could just get Next hardware (plus, I realy don't want to run on a PC). Could someone point me towards information on the difference between the Cube and Slab, and what would be an adequate system for just tooling around a bit ... Thanks. -Dan (DanMac@World.std.com)
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextDimension memory flaked out Date: 24 Mar 1994 00:42:59 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <PJS.94Mar23174300@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> My system spontaneously locked today, and when I rebooted the monitor indicated memory problems for my ND. Is there any way to identify which specific SIMM is the problem? I have four 4Mb SIMMS so I can't pull any to identify by process of elimination... -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson =================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Message-ID: <7644298285925@dalek.mcs.anl.gov> Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov Organization: Math and Computer Science, Argonne National Laboratory References: <TSPENCER.94Mar21184652@kiwi.mccaw.com> <1994Mar22.161509.4416@princeton.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 13:37:08 GMT Has anyone been able to set a headless machine up as a print server? We have tried, but get errors to the effect that the print daemon cannot talk to the window server. --bob
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP_plotter-MicroStation-network Date: 23 Mar 1994 16:41:12 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2mprf8$7l6@danmeasure.dannug.dk> Keywords: RS232_Hardwire Have an old HP 7580B plotter. 6 Intergraphs MicroStations in a Nowell network. All MicroStations sends plots to a spool in a server. IF the plotter is turned off, all queued plots vanish in the blue sky. If the plotter is on, they all queue very nicely, awaiting their turn. We have connected the following pins: 25pin male ( plotter ) 25 pin female ( ordinary COM1 seriel port ) 1 - 1 2 - 3 3 - 2 5 + 6 - 20 7 - 7 20 - 5 + 6 In addition to the above we tried 4 - 8 and 8 - 4. Same result ! I know for a fact that you should be able to turn off the plotter and still have plots to wait in the queue, but I had my cables lost. ( rearranging the office, whilst I was away, effective women ) Is there somewhere a genious who have a diagram of the proper cabling ? Please email me at sw@dannug.dk Nextmail welcome. Thanks in advance and take care out there. Soren Wang Livoevej 12 DK - 8800 Viborg Denmark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: ELSA Winner 2000 Pro -- possible high end graphics card for NS/FIP Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar23212336@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 02:23:35 GMT As you may recall, I've been trying to design a high end NS/FIP system for my use. During my researches on the subject I've come across the following card which may be of interest to others as well. Needless to say I've absolutely no personal interest in this manufacturer. The ELSA Winner 2000 Pro is a German high-end PCI graphics card with NS drivers available which was demoed at the CeBIT. The 4 MByte VRAM version can display anything of up to 1600x1200 pixel in 16 bit color at 67 Hz (1280x1024 at 80 Hz) and 1152x864 pixel in 24 bit color at 64 Hz. The claimed speed under NS is over 50 MBytes/sec. According to the US distributor the card will be available here in a few weeks. If all this turns out to be true, it would doubtlessly be the best graphics card for NS/FIP (and quite possibly PCs in general). The price will be about $1.2k. The 800 number for the US distributor (800) 272-ELSA. Personally, I consider that price to considerably too high. Even high end cards with comparable performance (but alas permanently without NS drivers) like the Matrox MGA II with similar amounts of VRAM cost little more than half of that. On the other hand, choosers can't be beggars, so I may end up getting this card when it becomes available anyway. In that case, be sure to see the performance numbers posted in this forum. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: Mooseman's Ph#? Message-ID: <1994Mar24.073218.1997@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 07:32:18 GMT Does anyone have James Moosemans PH#? Rick
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Sound Card Do YOU Want? Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 03:19:14 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <pi7uh4K.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <1994Mar23.011352.19078@adobe.com> Perry: We would vote for : 1) SoundBlaster 16. [*] 2)5) Turtle Beach Tahiti+Maui. Keep us posted Marty
From: news@news.noname (UseNet News Service) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.dcom.isdn Subject: Re: Any ISDN fans out there? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.dcom.isdn Date: 24 Mar 1994 08:38:09 GMT Organization: Marquette Electronics, Inc. Distribution: na Message-ID: <2mrjhh$3i9@news.moneng.mei.com> References: <1994Mar8.053355.12167@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> Karl Hanzel (karl@khaos.com) wrote: : Hello, : I'm just doing a preliminary study to find out if people are using ISDN : yet, and what your impressions are. : Are you? What's your metro-location? How long have you had it? What do : you think? : Where can i find out more? (I just now discovered comp.dcom.isdn, as well : as the FAQ, thanks!) : Thanks : pax, : Karl : *-----> : -- : Karl Hanzel : Boulder, Colorado : karl@khaos.com (NeXT Mail) or hanzel@comet.ucar.edu Marquette Electronics in Milwaukee Wisconsin ( Ameritech area ) uses quite abit. We are told by the telco that we represent 25% of the ISDN used in the area, we have also been told that this is actually quite abit seeing as the State of Wisconsin is the largest user of ISDN in the Ameritech area. Steven Goodman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kemal@sap-ag.de (Kemal Koeksal) Subject: Re: HP 712 (Gecko) + NS/FIP = HELP! Message-ID: <Cn5wow.HK3@sap-ag.de> Sender: news@sap-ag.de (USENET News System) Organization: SAP-AG Walldorf References: <2mqaas$t4j@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:22:08 GMT James Bassuk (bassuk@u.washington.edu) wrote: : My HP rep just informed me that I can have a 712/60 (aka Gecko) : on my desk next week with the following config for < $6,000 US : 17" monitor 1024 x 768 : 32 MB RAM (4 x 8 MB) : 1 GB SCSI II Disk Drive : 1.4 MB floppy : keyboard : The price include our 35% university discount. : Problem is that he is unaware of NSi 3.2 coming pre-installed : and the config/pricing sheets reflect the absence of NSi. : I remember reading about the Gecko a couple of months ago : on c.s.n.h., but didn't save the news....:(..... : Does anyone have the definitive word on who/what/when/where/why : the NS port to the HP 712 will become a reality? : Thanks in advance, : Jim according to Next Germany, NeXTstep on HP will be released around June. I saw it running on the Cebit fair, very nice !! Also NeXTstep 3.3 is expected to support PCI.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: ATI Mach32 EISA config file Message-ID: <1994Mar21.010804.19128@xexos.com> Sender: news@xexos.com Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 01:08:04 GMT We have one of the ATI Mach32 cards, but we don't have the EISA config file for it. Would some kind soul please NeXTMail me it? Thanks. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM PC NEXTSTEP conforming? Message-ID: <1994Mar24.153441.506@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:34:41 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) Organization: Institut fuer Informatik Hello all, My sister is about to buy a PC, mainly for use with DOS/windows. BUT, she is also considering NEXTSTEP. Has anyone any experience with one of the following systems, and, if yes, with which video board? IBM 486/DX2 66MHz - minitower no IBM 2168-54T (420MB hard drive, 8MB RAM, Dual Floppys, 1MB V-RAM, local Bus, 14400fax/modem 8K cache) [yes, the RAM needs upgrading] Packard Bell Force 4900 (Pentium 60MHz Multimedia Computer, 420MB hard drive, 8MB RAM, 256K cache, 2PCL, 3 ISA slots, 1MB V-RAM, S&R Fax/modem, 2xCD-ROM drive, 16bit sound card (which?) Speakers) [yes, the RAM needs upgrading] Keeping away from PCs as much as I can, I have no experience nor an opinion. Thanks for any information. -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ATI 68800 AX Video adaptor Date: 24 Mar 1994 12:25:07 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403241717.AA02564@proxima.com> Has anyone had any success with this card for PCI-based systems? NeXT has pushed back their planned release date of the official driver until late April at best. Success specifically related to the Intel Premiere onboard version is what I am looking for, but any information could be helpful. We have a client who wants ~70 of these, but without the driver, the system is useless. Thanks for any info. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Systems Engineer McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kemal@sap-ag.de (Kemal Koeksal) Subject: NS/I & SCSI Problems Message-ID: <Cn6p9J.1qr@sap-ag.de> Summary: Problems with NS/I 3.2 & SCSI Sender: news@sap-ag.de (USENET News System) Organization: SAP-AG Walldorf Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 19:39:18 GMT Hardware config is: 486 ISA , 1 IDE Disk , Adaptec 1542C with SCSI id#0 CD-ROM SCSI id#1 HP DAT tape (1.3 GB) SCSI id#4 DEC RZ56 634 MB (SCSI 1) SCSI id#6 Quantum 1.1 GB (SCSI 2) the installation on the IDE disk went fine, but I can't mount the disks. During boot everything is recognized fine and (as you can obtain from the console log) I can use the CD-ROM disk without problems. When I log in Builddisk.App gives a try to initialize (say label) the disks without success. Trying it manually comes back with I/O error. I have followed the hints in doc #1108 for the Adaptec controller and also installed the driver update, no success. What am I missing ? The disks are working fine under FreeBSD. Are there any log files (besides /usr/adm/messages & /tmp/console.log) I should check to find out what exactly is the problem ? ========================console.log================================== Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S) probing for DOS Filesystem name: DOS Mar 22 23:21:08 Workspace: Mounted DOS disk at /msdoof probing for CDROM Mar 22 23:21:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /NEXTANSWERS_EUROPE_CD probing for CDROM probing for DOS probing for mac probing for cdaudio probing for CDROM probing for DOS /usr/etc/disk -i -h localhost -l "DEC rz56" /dev/rsd1a probing for mac disk name: DEC RZ56 (C) DEC 0400 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi probing for cdaudio writing disk label can't write label -- disk unusable!: I/O error /usr/etc/disk -i -h localhost -l "Quantum" /dev/rsd2a disk name: QUANTUM PD1225S 314211/ disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label can't write label -- disk unusable!: I/O error
From: babic@eiffel.ce.nd.edu (Marijan Babic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer for NeXT Date: 24 Mar 1994 19:36:43 GMT Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame Distribution: world Message-ID: <2msq4b$miu@news.nd.edu> I would like to buy a printer compatible with both a NeXTStation running 2.1 and a Sparcstation2. I would like to know if HP LaserJet 4 would do, and if yes, what kind of cables would I need to connect it to the NeXT. If not, what would be a good printer to get for up to $2000. Your e-mail responses would be very much appreciated. Thanks. -- Marijan Babic | Tel: 219/631-7380 Department of Civil Engineering | Fax: 219/631-8007 and Geological Sciences | Internet: babic@eiffel.ce.nd.edu University of Notre Dame | Marijan.Babic.1.@nd.edu Notre Dame, IN 46556, USA |
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (David Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do run a serial mouse on com2? Date: 24 Mar 1994 14:50:49 -0600 Organization: University of Houston Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2msuf9$ink@menudo.uh.edu> hello folks, I am temporarily stuck with a VLB IDE/IO card that does not have explicite jumper settings so I am resorted to setting jumpers off of my other cards to avoid conflicts. since the ATI graphics Ulttra PRO uses the IO space normally reserved for com4, this means that I have to put my internal modem on com3 which I did, but then this neccesitates that I put the serial rodent on com2. here's the problem, how do I setup NeXT so that it will know that the rodent is on com2? right now it probes for a bus mouse and a serial mouse on com1 and filaing to find one at either place it gives up. I tried to put the mouse on com1 and then go into the configuration.app to change it from within NeXt step, however, NeXT returns with the nice messages that the thing was lock focused and I cannot change the com port setting of the rodent, since I am using it. so I am kinda stuck. I will be exchangingthe VLB controller card. but there's got to be a software solution to this hardware problem. I'm sure it's probably very simple, but I don't know it, so please help. Thanks... David again. .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au Subject: Which MO's can I use under NS 3.1 onwards Message-ID: <Cn6EF8.2ox@number_one.apana.org.au> Sender: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au (Nikki A Vincent) Organization: Cafe de Strachan - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder. Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:45:08 GMT Hi Which SCSI Magneto Optical drives can I use under NeXTSTEP 3.1 and upwards? I'd prefer the 3.5" variety. I would have presumed that any MO would work simply as a SCSI device, but I seem to remember some discussion about this topic which is leading me to believe otherwise. Any comments welcome,... commercial replies with pricing are welcome as well :-) Cheers Nicole ----------------------NeXTmail Accepted and preferred -------------------- Nicole Vincent : nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au SYDNEY NSW AUSTRALIA On a day when nothing happens, are Life is a health hazard,... they gonna cancel the 6 o'clock news? watch out or it will get you. WIRED, February 1994, pp. 50. ME :-)
From: ssircar@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Modems and CDs and Drives, Oh My! Date: 24 Mar 1994 17:10:50 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403242310.AA03040@NeXT.COM> I originally asked about modems and CD-ROM drives that would work with both a Mac and a NeXT (black). I received the following information: All of the following noted that the Apple CD-150/300 series work just fine with the NeXT. yosikazu@sraco1.us.sra.co.jp (Yoshikazu Hayashi) gordie@kaleida.com jbf@mbunix.mitre.org (Barney Frazer) Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> lsherman@nextworld.com (Lee Sherman) Robert Nicholson also noted: >don't buy anything other than a Zyxel 1496-E (street price 250) Barney Frazer wrote: >I use a Hayes Ultra modem on both with no problem (get the >shareware zmodem program for the Mac, about to be updated, >and the shareware tiptop for the NeXT, or Microphone II if >you prefer shrinkwrap, unless you really need fancy >terminal emulation, then get Versaterm for the ac and >communicae for the NeXT). You will need a special cable >for the NeXT, as I recall. Probably have to make it youself. Thanks to all who responded! --- Subrata Sircar | ssircar@next.com | Prophet & SPAMIT Charter Member Next Computer and I do not share the same views on everything. "I'm just mad that I missed the sexual revolution." - me "Yes, but you dress much better as a result." - Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Voice mail software?? Message-ID: <Cn50ss.15I@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <2mmtg8$ds0@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:53:16 GMT In article <2mmtg8$ds0@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> singer@mps.ohio-state.edu writes: > Before replacing my broken answering machine, I would like to find out if > software/hardware exists to use my NeXT and modem as an answering machine. > Suggestions or reviews appreciated. Sure, get am1.??? Its an answering machine, fax receiving machine and allows data i/o. Where to find? Any well organized ftp site! Juergen --- Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok ) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688 == The revolution will not be televised - GilScottHeron 1970 == == The revolution will not be posted - Juergen 1994 ==
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: zyp@altern.com (zyp) Subject: PCI 64 bits motherboard ? Message-ID: <1994Mar24.194640.8137@altern.com> Organization: Altern B , Corp. Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 19:46:40 GMT Is there a 64 bits pci motherboard on sale ?
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA Winner 2000 Pro -- possible high end graphics card for NS/FIP Date: 25 Mar 1994 02:45:45 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2mtj8p$4ms@news.u.washington.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94Mar23212336@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >As you may recall, I've been trying to design a high end NS/FIP system >for my use. During my researches on the subject I've come across the >following card which may be of interest to others as well. Needless >to say I've absolutely no personal interest in this manufacturer. >The ELSA Winner 2000 Pro is a German high-end PCI graphics card with >NS drivers available which was demoed at the CeBIT. The 4 MByte VRAM >version can display anything of up to 1600x1200 pixel in 16 bit color >at 67 Hz (1280x1024 at 80 Hz) and 1152x864 pixel in 24 bit color at 64 >Hz. The claimed speed under NS is over 50 MBytes/sec. According to >the US distributor the card will be available here in a few weeks. If >all this turns out to be true, it would doubtlessly be the best >graphics card for NS/FIP (and quite possibly PCs in general). The >price will be about $1.2k. The 800 number for the US distributor >(800) 272-ELSA. >Personally, I consider that price to considerably too high. Even high >end cards with comparable performance (but alas permanently without NS >drivers) like the Matrox MGA II with similar amounts of VRAM cost >little more than half of that. On the other hand, choosers can't be >beggars, so I may end up getting this card when it becomes available >anyway. In that case, be sure to see the performance numbers posted >in this forum. There is another option besides spending the $1.2K. The ELSA Winner 1000 Pro Series will list for around $750. This card will also contain the S^3 64-bit chip but will be limited to 2 MB DRAM. As I understand it, the 2000 Pro that Carl referred to will blaze away with 4 MB VRAM. Nobody at ELSA/USA has this card running. I've been referred to Stefan Seeboth, se@elsa.nhs.compuserve.com, but haven't heard back from him. I'd like to find out his Intel configuration that they tested the machine on. And, yes, NeXT drivers will come with the machine. So, Carl, get that purchase order ready and let us know! Jim ******************************************************** Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?' ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: Which Sound Card Do YOU Want? Message-ID: <1994Mar25.030021.10222@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <1994Mar23.011352.19078@adobe.com> <pi7uh4K.ecesys@delphi.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 03:00:21 GMT I've received several messages from several helpful folks indicating that the PAS-16 works fine on their system. In all cases but one, these folks were lucky enough to have EISA based systems. I just wanted to clarify that I realize that the PAS-16 works fine on EISA based systems. Unfortunately, I have an ISA based system. I'm not blaming anyone but myself. I was warned by NeXT, GEC, and others that the PAS-16 might not work on ISA. I went into this with my eyes open. I optimistically thought that if I fiddled with enough IRQ/DMA combinations, I'd find one that worked. I gave it a shot. It didn't work. No regrets. It may be that I have a bad card, but I doubt it. I have other anecdotal evidence that the PAS-16 is just not reliable on ISA. It could be my motherboard, and it could be the fact that a motherboard vendor can cut corners on ISA and appear to be compatible, until you try to push the boundaries of the spec, as 16-bit stereo 44khz sampling does. By the way, despite my initial doubts, the Advanced Gravis UltraSound is looking better and better. Check this out: * FREE developer's kit with sources, available via FTP. * FREE Linux driver (good UNIX driver example). * As of rev 3.7, Microsoft Windows Sound System compatible. * The tech support guy I talked to is interested in NEXTSTEP. * Popular due to its relatively low price. * Upcoming (2 weeks) GUS MAX version, which includes 16-bit recording and 1 Meg Wave table storage. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP 712 (Gecko) + NS/FIP = HELP! Date: 24 Mar 1994 11:21:16 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2mrpis$1as@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2mqaas$t4j@news.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Hewlett Packard, Gecko, NeXTStep bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: >Problem is that he is unaware of NSi 3.2 coming pre-installed >and the config/pricing sheets reflect the absence of NSi. >I remember reading about the Gecko a couple of months ago >on c.s.n.h., but didn't save the news....:(..... >Does anyone have the definitive word on who/what/when/where/why >the NS port to the HP 712 will become a reality? I just returned from Cebit fair in Hannover, where I talked to NeXT employees about NS/PA-RISC. 1. NS/PA-RISC is scheduled for June/July 94. 2. All releases of NeXTSTEP will be priced equally, no matter of the hardware. This means that an Academic bundle for NS/PA-RISC will be as cheap as for NS/I. 3. No upgrades NS/I -> NS/PA-RISC or NS/M -> NS/PA-RISC are planned. The pre-alpha version of NS on HP 712/60 was _way cool_. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: reeves@eugenia.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu (Terry W. Reeves) Subject: Thanks for the help: Apple CD-300 purchase Message-ID: <1994Mar25.042449.21347@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: Vanderbilt University Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 04:24:49 GMT Thanks to all who wrote in withtheir experiences about Apple CD-300's on black running 3.0. We finally bought one and it seems to work just fine, although I haven't tried to do anything other than read the 3.0 CD that came with these guys. Once again, thanks. Terry Reeves
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Metaresearch, Inc Date: 25 Mar 1994 08:53:53 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2mu8r1INNm25@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Is it Metaresearch, Inc still in business? (Makers of Digital Ears and Color Digital Eyes). If so, does any one know if they have an e-mail address? -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mjulku@cc.joensuu.fi (Mikko Julku) Subject: Re: The new ATI mach64 graphics card Message-ID: <mjulku.764589057@cc> Sender: news@cs.joensuu.fi Organization: University of Joensuu References: <1994Mar16.190722.23605@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <schwettCn27zC.BtF@netcom.com> <1994Mar22.233243.13642@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:50:57 GMT caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: >In article <schwettCn27zC.BtF@netcom.com> schwett@netcom.com (Mark Schwettmann) writes: >>Have you seen this board yet? >> >>All I've heard are rumors... but the rumors say that it might ship with >>a NeXTStep driver! >> >>Hurray! >Hurray? We'll have to see if this card really makes NEXTSTEP faster. On >the one hand, NEXTSTEP gets no benefit from the mach64 accelerator chip. >On the other hand, the VRAM and RAMDAC are wider, suggesting a potential >doubling of throughput. Unfortunately, neither PCI nor VLB support 64-bit >transfers yet, so the card may be bus limited. >I'm reading from the ATI FAX Info sheet (905-882-2600, doc #1030). Here's >a summary: >* 2 MB or 4 MB VRAM >* 2 MB upgradeable to 4 MB by customer >* True 64-bit wide VRAM, RAMDAC, and accelerator chip architecture >* 24-bit color to 1280x1024 (doesn't say what refresh rate) >* PCI and VLB available April '94, ISA in May '94 >* WinSwitch on-the-fly resolution setup (don't have to reboot Windows) >* Superior DOS performance [performance tests deleted] >There is no mention of a NEXTSTEP driver. Could somebody C'T (4/94) reader clarify about specs of this card ? The article is in german and even though I have subscribed this magazine (better than BYTE) I do not speak or understand german :-) . The article mentions NEXTSTEP driver... Also the magazine gives examples of NS server/client applications, compares Windows NT, OS/2 2.1 and NeXTStep... much NeXTStep related topics at common computer magazine. >Even though PCI doesn't support 64-bit transfers, the PCI and Pentium >combination could be a big win with the Pentium optimized PCI burst modes. >It's no surprise that ATI used a PCI/Pentium to do the benchmarks. >Perry >-- >caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others Ps. As you may have found english (or german) is not my native language, so all flames conserning my english can be sent to bitspace ie. /dev/null Mikko Julku Varaslammenkatu 3 80200 Joensuu Finland mjulku@cc.joensuu.fi mjulku@tolsun.oulu.fi mjulku@ratol.fi
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple CD300 questions (black and white) Date: 25 Mar 1994 12:20:33 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <2mukuh$m3t@elna.ethz.ch> Keywords: cd-rom, cd, apple, cd300 Our local NeXT User group wants to buy some Apple CD300 CD-ROM drives. Any help in the following questions would be highly appreciated. What I heard about it is that it works fine on black 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2, on 3.2 it can also play audio-CDs and mount photo-CDs. - Does it also work with white HW? - Can it play audio-CDs on 3.0? (I heard different things about this..) Many thanks in advance, Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (NeXT Mail welcome) PGP public key on request
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to get new non-ADB NeXT mouse? Date: 25 Mar 1994 09:04 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <25MAR199409042189@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Where (phone number) can I order a new non-ADB mouse for my NeXTcube? Don McCollam mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Douglas Moore Subject: ND bottlenecks? Message-ID: <Cn6DHE.F1B@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: World Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:26:26 GMT Does anybody know what the major bottlenecks are on an ND system? i.e. is the NeXTbus the limiting factor, memory bandwidth on the ND board? Mainly I'm just curious, as the prospect of a 040"dx2"66 is cool, and the 060 board makes me (mentally) drool. For those of you out there who upgraded from 25 to 33mhz motherboards, did it affect graphics performance at all? I'm also curious to know about the possibility of "clock chipping" the ND board. I know that there are probably timing considerations here, and I really am happy about the ND's performance, but more is always better here in America right? --- Douglas Moore 172 East Sixth Street #2106 St Paul, MN 55101 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready Hey HP---build us a PA-RISC motherboard for the cubes!---A fast one!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: rms@netcom.netcom.com (Robert M. Searfus) Subject: Re: ATI 68800 AX Video adaptor In-Reply-To: elitman@proxima.com's message of 24 Mar 1994 12:25:07 -0600 Message-ID: <RMS.94Mar25133511@netcom.netcom.com> Sender: rms@netcom.com (Robert M. Searfus) Organization: NETCOM On-line services References: <9403241717.AA02564@proxima.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 21:35:11 GMT I purchased a Pentium P5-66 from Gateway 2000 that included the ATI AX PCI card. I was only able to get the default VGA driver to work at first, although I did not try all color modes and refresh rates with the NeXT supplied ATI driver. I tried a suggestion posted to the net several weeks ago that involved changing the memory mapping of the ATI framebuffer in the ATI driver source provided with the developer's kit. I had to use a different aperture address (0xa0000000) than that posted (0x40000000) to get the ATI to come up at all. The patched driver sorta works in greyscale. Occasionally the whole system hangs during bitblts so I can't say it works 100%, but the system is functional enough and hangs infrequent enough that I am willing to get the extra real-estate at the cost/risk of an unclean halt. Color modes using the patched driver do not work correctly. The screen comes up in color, but updates (such as moving the cursor or moving a window) cause significant interference, and the system hangs more frequently than in greyscale. Static color screens look great in 16-bit color. I haven't ruled out the possibility that I made an error patching the example ATI driver. Unfortunately the documentation that came with the ATI card is very sparse on technical details, and I haven't found a free source of ATI Mach 32 programming information (ATI sells a programming manual, but I can't justify it if NeXT will release a supported driver in a couple weeks). There are apparently others that have modified the example ATI driver and may have different results. (bob) Robert M. Searfus rms@netcom.com
From: Zachary_Bortolot@brown.edu (Zachary Bortolot) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MO on PC? Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 16:30:55 Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <Zachary_Bortolot.18.0010845D@brown.edu> Hi! My brother has offered to sell me his external NeXT optical drive for an extremely attractive price. My question is whether a PC clone equiped with a standard SCSI card can use them, and if so, is the hook up straightforward or would I have to build custom cables and do other nasty stuff. Also, if I did buy it, any recommendations on SCSI cards? So far the Trantor parallel adapter looks the best. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Sound Card Do YOU Want? Date: 25 Mar 1994 09:24:58 -0600 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2muvob$ir6@cobber.cord.edu> References: <1994Mar23.011352.19078@adobe.com> <pi7uh4K.ecesys@delphi.com> In article <pi7uh4K.ecesys@delphi.com>, ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> wrote: >Perry: > We would vote for : > 1) SoundBlaster 16. [*] > 2)5) Turtle Beach Tahiti+Maui. >Keep us posted > Marty Turtle Beach's MultiSound Classic, MultiSound Monterey, and the Tahita all use the Motorola 56001 DSP. I don't know if Turtle Beach wants to release the specs so that us DSP programmers could use them. By the way, are the DSP tools/library still available on NS/FIP? -Jon -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NeXT MO on PC? Message-ID: <1994Mar25.235237.23066@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <Zachary_Bortolot.18.0010845D@brown.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 23:52:37 GMT In article <Zachary_Bortolot.18.0010845D@brown.edu> Zachary_Bortolot@brown.edu (Zachary Bortolot) writes: >>Hi! My brother has offered to sell me his external NeXT optical drive for >>an extremely attractive price. My question is whether a PC clone equiped >>with a standard SCSI card can use them, and if so, is the hook up >>straightforward or would I have to build custom cables and do other nasty >>stuff. Also, if I did buy it, any recommendations on SCSI cards? So >>far the Trantor parallel adapter looks the best. Thanks in advance for any >>suggestions! To my knowledge there is no such thing as an "external NeXT optical drive". There are external MO drives you can use on NeXTs, but NeXT never sold one. The NeXT optical drive was never external, and is not a SCSI device. So, I'd get things clarified a bit more before proceeding... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: night@cwru.edu (John L. Millard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStation with 68040 For Sale!! Date: 26 Mar 1994 00:54:38 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2n014e$r1a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> I'm looking to possibly sell my NeXTstation, presuming someone offers the right price... Here are the specs: NeXT Workstation with --> Motorola **68040** processor with built-in cache -- One helluva powerful chip! 8 Meg of ram (Upgradable to 32 Meg), 17" Megapixel Monitor, 2.88 Meg Floppy, 105 Meg Quantum SCSI (Can link 9 SCSI devices -- perfect for hard drive expansion!), Special serial modem cable guaranteed to work with any modem, And PLENTY of applications!! (Feel free to inquire... :) This computer is powerful and IDEAL for anyone who loves to network AND perform TRUE multitasking -- not that baloney espoused by those who would say that Windows multitasks... (No offense to anyone, but it's true... :) In addition, this machine is fully upgradable to NS 3.2, which supports DOS, MAC-OS, and UNIX... If you're interested, contact me at jlm13@po.cwru.edu or night@b65215.student.cwru.edu with an offer -- best offer wins... :) --------------- John L. Millard 3rd year, Computer Engineering, Case Western Reserve University night@b65215.student.cwru.edu (NeXTMail Welcome) jlm13@po.cwru.edu ---------------
From: warozzi@mmm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any word on the Diamond Viper driver? Date: 25 Mar 1994 17:22:45 GMT Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN 55144-1000 US Message-ID: <2mv6l5$167@dawn.mmm.com> I've seen quite a few posts requesting more information on the availability of the promised Viper driver (1Q94 is coming to an end), but I've never seen any responses other than "Me too". Is there any word on availability or changes to the release date? Have all the previous posters been sent beta versions and sworn to secrecy ;-) ? I'll summarize if that doesn't jeopardize my being placed on that beta list. Best regards, Bill Rozzi warozzi@mmm.com
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep Intel for me? Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 20:45:27 -0500 Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4hYtCry00WBNQ_0VUY@andrew.cmu.edu> I've heard a lot of good stuff about NextStep, I've used the OS on black hardware, and I like it a lot. I need a unix environment for school and I was wondering whether NS Intel would run well on my machine or if it would be to slow. Basically I want to know if I can stick with what I have now or do I have to go to something like the Gecko when it comes out. My configuration is as follows: -> 486DX/33 (Do I need VLB?) -> 20MB RAM -> 203MB IDE HD (Could I use this for multiboot with DOS?) -> 500MB SCSI-2 HD (Should I get a gig?) -> Both Floppies (i.e. 5.25 + 3.5, could I use the 5.25 in NS?) -> Colorado Jumbo 250MB Tape Backup Drive (Could I use this?) -> ATI Graphics Ultra Plus w/2MB and bus mouse (Is this supported?) -> Adaptec 1522 SCSI-2 adapter (Do I need a 1542?) -> SoundBlaster 16 Basic (I heard there are compatibility problems.) -> Toshiba 3401B 2X Speed CD-ROM Drive -> U.S. Robotics Sportster 14.4/14.4 Fax Modem (Does NS support modems?) -> IBM TokenRing II 4mps adapter (Does NS support TR or only Ethernet?). Thanks to anyone who reads this and especially to anyone who responds with some advice. Leo Turetsky professor@cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University Freshman ECE/CS Double Major
From: mclement@access.digex.net (hackrat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Black Info... Date: 25 Mar 1994 21:09:53 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <mclement.764647707@access3> First: Could someone direct me to the FAQ Second: Can someone tell me a good source to find info on purchasing Black Hardware, and can someone tell me what I might look for in black hardware (or if I should move to another platform). I am a student, and would like to spend under $3000 for a system, including OS. Thanks. -- Matt Clement mclement@access.digex.net
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any word on the Diamond Viper driver? Date: 26 Mar 1994 02:27:03 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2n06hn$3o6@inxs.concert.net> References: <2mv6l5$167@dawn.mmm.com> In article <2mv6l5$167@dawn.mmm.com> warozzi@mmm.com writes: > > > I've seen quite a few posts requesting more information on the > availability of the promised Viper driver (1Q94 is coming to an > end), but I've never seen any responses other than "Me too". > Is there any word on availability or changes to the release > date? Have all the previous posters been sent beta versions > and sworn to secrecy ;-) ? I'll summarize if that doesn't > jeopardize my being placed on that beta list. > The driver is STILL in beta! -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: NeXT Black Info... Message-ID: <1994Mar26.034514.13014@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <mclement.764647707@access3> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 03:45:14 GMT In article <mclement.764647707@access3> mclement@access.digex.net (hackrat) writes: > First: Could someone direct me to the FAQ The updated FAQs will be posted to the announce group in a few days... -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: judson@crl.com (Michael Judson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 10baseT Daisy Chain Date: 25 Mar 1994 19:57:04 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <2n0bqg$ce@crl2.crl.com> Is anybody familiar with Tut Systems' Silver Streak boxes which makes 10baseT daisychainable? Anyway, if this set-up is used with a Macintosh network, will I have any problems connecting it to a NeXT cube? Thanks in advance for any information.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: ELSA Winner 2000 Pro -- possible high end graphics card for NS/FIP In-Reply-To: bassuk@u.washington.edu's message of 25 Mar 1994 02:45:45 GMT To: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar25083937@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar23212336@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2mtj8p$4ms@news.u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 13:39:37 GMT In article <2mtj8p$4ms@news.u.washington.edu> bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >Personally, I consider that price to considerably too high. Even high >end cards with comparable performance (but alas permanently without NS >drivers) like the Matrox MGA II with similar amounts of VRAM cost >little more than half of that. On the other hand, choosers can't be >beggars, so I may end up getting this card when it becomes available >anyway. In that case, be sure to see the performance numbers posted >in this forum. There is another option besides spending the $1.2K. The ELSA Winner 1000 Pro Series will list for around $750. This card will also contain the S^3 64-bit chip but will be limited to 2 MB DRAM. As I understand it, the 2000 Pro that Carl referred to will blaze away with 4 MB VRAM. Yes, but who in the world will pay $750 for a DRAM based card ? Generally, you'll find DRAM only in low-end cards for PC users who don't care much about performance or refresh rates. Also 2 MBytes of RAM is pretty much the minimum which any NS/FIP machine should have. And even at $750 it is above the average price of the current crop of high-end 4 MByte VRAM cards. That they'd ask such a price for a 2 MByte DRAM card slowly leads me to wonder if ELSA really is high-end or just overpriced. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: The new ATI mach64 graphics card In-Reply-To: mjulku@cc.joensuu.fi's message of Fri, 25 Mar 1994 09:50:57 GMT Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar25084726@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994Mar16.190722.23605@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <schwettCn27zC.BtF@netcom.com> <1994Mar22.233243.13642@adobe.com> <mjulku.764589057@cc> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 13:47:26 GMT caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: Hurray? We'll have to see if this card really makes NEXTSTEP faster. On the one hand, NEXTSTEP gets no benefit from the mach64 accelerator chip. On the other hand, the VRAM and RAMDAC are wider, suggesting a potential doubling of throughput. Unfortunately, neither PCI nor VLB support 64-bit transfers yet, so the card may be bus limited. I don't think so. There are a couple of 64-bit cards out there already and while all of them are fairly fast, none of them even come close to actually using the full 32-bit PCI bandwidth. I'm reading from the ATI FAX Info sheet (905-882-2600, doc #1030). Here's a summary: * 2 MB or 4 MB VRAM * 2 MB upgradeable to 4 MB by customer * True 64-bit wide VRAM, RAMDAC, and accelerator chip architecture * 24-bit color to 1280x1024 (doesn't say what refresh rate) That I find very hard to believe. With a standard encoding for 24 bit color you need one 32 bit word for each pixel. That means that 1280x1024 needs about 5.2 MBytes of VRAM which is more than the card has. And even if the ATI card has a more compact encoding which really only uses 24 bit/pixel for 24 bit color, performance is almost certainly degraded and NS 3.2 certainly doesn't understand that encoding. Carl Edman
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OD and non-NeXT, printer Date: 22 Mar 1994 03:06:51 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2mlncb$g1b@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <Cn01Bu.D3L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <Cn01Bu.D3L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Clinton Wong) writes: > Is the SCSI controller on the NeXT optical disk generic enough to be > used with computers other than a 680x0 NeXT? (ie: are the SCSI signals > the same as other devices, so that read, write, eject, verify, and > format are the same as something like a Syquest?) The MO drive in the NeXT 68030 cube I used to own (manufactured 1989) was not even SCSI. It was completely incompatible with everything except a NeXT cube. More recent cubes might possibly have had standard, compatible MO drives, but I doubt it. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: kdb@pegasus (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need SCSI ID info for Maxtor XT-8380S (NeXT part S3001) Date: 26 Mar 1994 20:32:19 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2n264j$1oo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I recently purchased a 5.25"FH SCSI HD (Maxtor XT-8380S), which is actually NeXT's original 330MB HD for the cube (part# S3001). However, it conflicts with the SCSI ID's of the internal HD of my NSC and my CD-ROM drive. On the back of the controller board of the drive there are jumper pins in two groups in the following configuration: ooo ooo_o _oo ooooo o = pin exists _ = pin purposefully missing I have tried several combinations of jumpers (none existed initially) but to no avail. Does anyone know how to set the SCSI ID of this thing? Any help would certainly be appreciated. Kurt ;-) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin + + kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: kdb@pegasus (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need SCSI ID info for Maxtor XT-8380S (NeXT part S3001) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 27 Mar 1994 01:22:39 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2n2n4v$9av@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <2n264j$1oo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Kurt D. Bollacker (kdb@pegasus) wrote: : I recently purchased a 5.25"FH SCSI HD (Maxtor XT-8380S), which is actually : NeXT's original 330MB HD for the cube (part# S3001). However, it conflicts [STUFF DELETED] : I have tried several combinations of jumpers (none existed initially) but to : no avail. Does anyone know how to set the SCSI ID of this thing? Any help : would certainly be appreciated. Someone pointed me towards the Maxtor 24hr automated help # (1-800-262-9867) which actually had a wealth of information about Maxtor drives, including how to set my SCSI ID. However, now when I boot, I get the message: scX (0,0):ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:10 scsi status:0.0 ^ Where "X" is my SCSI id. At least its existence is being recognized. Any guesses as to why is not set properly? This is the original NeXT drive, and I have a good assurance that it is not damaged. How complex can it be to set this thing up? Anyway, any info or pointers to info would be appreciated. Kurt :-) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin + + kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sta@logibec.com Subject: i486 DX4 100Mhz Benchmark Message-ID: <1994Mar25.234118.29361@logibec.com> Sender: news@logibec.com Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 23:41:18 GMT This is the benchmark for the Intel GX/Pro with DX4 100mhz processor, 32M RAM in 1120*832*16 NXBench.app v2.0 Dhrystone/s ->> 68337 VAX MIPS ->> 43.38 Mandelbrot.app ->> 100% faster than 66Mhz. Stephane Ah-ki sta@logibec.com Logibec
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) Subject: DEC XL 560 for NSI Message-ID: <Cn6z7I.49x@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Keywords: DEC XL Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 23:14:03 GMT I'm on the verge of ordering a DEC XL 560 to run NS. I can't wait for some of the great hardware that will probably be available in the next year or so. Before I buy, I want to get some opinions regarding disadvantages of the ISA bus. Does the PCI make-up for any limitations? What won't I be able to do in the future that I could do with an EISA system. Why didn't DEC make this and EISA/PCI system? By-the-way, do you think that the XL 566 is worth an extra $320? Thanks for your opinion. Brad W.B. Kincaid, Ph.D. Life Science Department Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Ave. Mesa, AZ 85202 voice: 602/461-7103 fax: 602/461-7803 kincaid@next.mc.maricopa.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Metaresearch, Inc Message-ID: <Cn98EJ.2DA@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2mu8r1INNm25@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 04:27:55 GMT In article <2mu8r1INNm25@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes: # #Is it Metaresearch, Inc still in business? (Makers of #Digital Ears and Color Digital Eyes). If so, does #any one know if they have an e-mail address? You can try either info@metaresearch.com or lee@metaresearch.com. They are definitely still in business. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXT MO on PC? Message-ID: <Cn98vu.2E3@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <Zachary_Bortolot.18.0010845D@brown.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 04:38:18 GMT In article <Zachary_Bortolot.18.0010845D@brown.edu> Zachary_Bortolot@brown.edu (Zachary Bortolot) writes: #Hi! My brother has offered to sell me his external NeXT optical drive for #an extremely attractive price. My question is whether a PC clone equiped #with a standard SCSI card can use them, and if so, is the hook up #straightforward or would I have to build custom cables and do other nasty #stuff. Also, if I did buy it, any recommendations on SCSI cards? So #far the Trantor parallel adapter looks the best. Thanks in advance for any #suggestions! If it's external then it isn't a NeXT drive unless he made it external. A NeXT MO is a NeXT MO and won't work anywhere else. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Viper Video Card NS Drivers - When? Date: 27 Mar 1994 22:24:12 GMT Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS Distribution: world Message-ID: <2n512c$8sf@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> I know this has been asked many, many times before, but when is this driver due? I am really desperate to get a hold of the Viper driver. Thanks! William Morse Sysadmin. / Emory Public NeXT Network Consult. / Emory ITD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.misc From: vlahos@cubism.portal.com (Harry Vlahos) Subject: PhoneKit and ISDN Extender Message-ID: <1994Mar28.074520.11592@cubism> Keywords: PhoneKit Sender: vlahos@cubism Organization: HV Software, Inc. Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 07:45:20 GMT Whatever happened to the PhoneKit? After NeXT dropped it, I thought that it was going to be available through a third party. What happened to it? Harry Vlahos vlahos@cubism.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) Subject: Fujitsu 128Mo 3"5 Opticla drive Message-ID: <1994Mar28.125208.293@wicket.fdn.org> Sender: news@wicket.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Paris -France Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 12:52:08 GMT Does someone have installed a Fujitsu 128Mo 3"5 Opticle drive on NeXTSTEP blackHardware 3.2 (station and Cube)? We ve got trouble with it : Disk Label: Archive Disk Capacity 121MB, Device Block 512 bytes sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 1 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 2 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 3 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 4 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 5 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 6 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 7 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 8 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 9 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL Can someone help us ? Thanks FReD -- Frederic Pralong Paris France NeXT mail OK
From: raney@oyster.smcm.edu (Curt Raney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Intel based Computer for NeXTStep Date: 28 Mar 1994 16:05:58 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2n6v96$2eb@umd5.umd.edu> I heard a rumor that Canon is planning to bring out a new computer this summer with an architecture designed specifically for NeXTStep Intel version. I can't track down the source, but since I'm about to purchase a computer that will run NSI, I'd love to know if there's any truth to it. I use a blackbox at work, but don't want to buy one for home because it's an orphan. I'd jump at the chance to buy something comparable for NSI. Curt Raney raney@oyster.smcm.edu
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 28 Mar 1994 17:07:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> Dell won't sell me a machine headless; and doesn't offer Nanoa monitors. Anyone have experience/info on the Viewsonic 17 vs the Sony CDP1730? -jonathan jonathan nagler nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu; assistant professor [NextMail Okay] department of political science IP: 138.23.106.51 university of california Voice: (909) 787-7258 riverside, ca. 92521-0118 Fax : (909) 787-3933
From: skeezics@teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Argh!! Need help opening NeXT cube! Date: 28 Mar 1994 09:39:05 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <2n74np$rp0@elaine.teleport.com> Summary: can't find the right size allen wrench Keywords: tried 'em all I need to open up my Mom's cube. She didn't get the NeXT Tool with her original shipment (a BL fire sale '030, way back when) and I've tried every damned Allen wrench on the block. Yes, I asked the neighbors and nobody has the right size. NOW I understand what they meant by "proprietary hardware." :-) Someone please email me the correct size, and I'll toddle off to the hardware store... Thanks! -- Chris -- skeezics@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-0636 (1200/2400, N81)
From: sav3@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Restoring under single user mode Date: 28 Mar 1994 17:13:06 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <2n7372$auj@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> I did a dump a week ago to my exabyte 8200 tape drive. I've since had to reformat my hard drive, and I'd like to restore the tape. The first time I tried it, I reformatted the drive using the installation floppy, pretending to do a full install, then when it rebooted, I booted in single user mode, driverLoaded the SCSITape driver, and restored. The problem was all my symbolic links got messed up as a lot of them had been written by the installer. Now I booted in single-user off the CDRom, mounted a floppy for /tmp, and tried to load the SCSITape driver to do the restore and, of course, it could't replace the /dev/rxt0 (or whatever file it is), as it was looking at the CD Rom. Any ideas for how I could work around this? Thanks very much. Sean Varah ****************************************************************************** "it's not music if no one wants to listen to it" Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, sav3@cunixa.columbia.edu ******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: The new ATI mach64 graphics card Message-ID: <CnDz6I.1K5@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <CEDMAN.94Mar25084726@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 17:56:41 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Mar25084726@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: >> [munch] >> * 24-bit color to 1280x1024 (doesn't say what refresh rate) > > That I find very hard to believe. With a standard encoding for 24 bit > color you need one 32 bit word for each pixel. That means that > 1280x1024 needs about 5.2 MBytes of VRAM which is more than the card > has. And even if the ATI card has a more compact encoding which > really only uses 24 bit/pixel for 24 bit color, performance is almost > certainly degraded and NS 3.2 certainly doesn't understand that > encoding. > > Carl Edman Who says, that in the 32 bit word there have to be 32 bit ram, if only 24 bit are used? Physically, you need only 4 MB for 1280x1024x24bit. With NEXTSTEP (at least how I understand it) the VRAM is used write only, so in a 4 byte word there may be only 3 bytes of ram. Otherwise a concept like it is used in the Gecko wouldn't work either! Gerd
From: jason_fosback@psca.com (Jason Fosback) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple CD300 questions (black and white) Date: 28 Mar 1994 18:06:33 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2n76b9$9sk@ftp-p.mccaw.com> References: <2mukuh$m3t@elna.ethz.ch> In article <2mukuh$m3t@elna.ethz.ch> felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) writes: > Our local NeXT User group wants to buy some Apple CD300 CD-ROM drives. > Any help in the following questions would be highly appreciated. > What I heard about it is that it works fine on black 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2, > on 3.2 it can also play audio-CDs and mount photo-CDs. > - Does it also work with white HW? Yes, very consistently. > - Can it play audio-CDs on 3.0? (I heard different things about > this..) Well, if you're talking about for INTEL, NO; 3.1 is the earliest version you could do that under :) . Really, though, audio CDs work fine on the CD-300 under NS 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2 on black hardware, and they work fine under NS 3.1 and 3.2 for INTEL. Good luck! -jason ____________________________________________________________ Jason Fosback, Systems Engineer | No sir, I didn't like it --- Paradigm Systems Corp --- | -R&S Internet: jason_fosback@psca.com | Star Trek: NeXT mail: jason_fosback@psca.com | The NeXT Generation...
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fujitsu 128Mo 3"5 Opticla drive Date: 28 Mar 1994 17:01:57 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2n72i5$nau@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Mar28.125208.293@wicket.fdn.org> fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) writes: > Does someone have installed a Fujitsu 128-MO 3"5 Opticle drive > on NeXTSTEP blackHardware 3.2 (station and Cube)? If this is the DynaMO mechanism, you probably will not be able to get it to work on black hardware. I could not, Fujitsu's tech support could not, and most everyone I contacted in the world could not. Other than that, it's a great MO drive (I'm not being sarcastic; we have a bunch of these on some Macs here and it is a really nice MO drive). Note that Pinnacle Micro sells the same drive mechanism, and calls it the Tahoe. The Tahoe won't work on black hardware either (my understanding is that both these MO drives do work on NS/Intel). I ended up calling Radiant Technologies, and ordering a different model of Pinnacle drive for my NeXTstation. Works great, though it's more expensive. Their number is 1-303-331-3117. You might want to ask for Steve Collins there, but whoever you talk to make sure you tell them that you want an MO drive for a NeXTstation. They have experience with testing things on NeXTstations, but they may assume you mean NS/Intel if you just say "NeXTSTEP". -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Serial Ports - How Fast? Date: 28 Mar 1994 18:08:14 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <2n76ee$k9e@bilbo.suite.com> How fast can I safely run the serial ports on our black hardware??? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Scot Shepherd -- Suite Software | Look TWICE! Motorcycles are -- -- Email: shepherd@suite.com | everywhere!!! -- -- Compu$erve: 72754,1105 | 82 Virago 750, 89 YZ250 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 28 Mar 1994 20:32:36 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Message-ID: <BWH.94Mar28153236@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> In-reply-to: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu's message of 28 Mar 1994 17:07:42 GMT In article <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) writes: > Dell won't sell me a machine headless; and doesn't offer > Nanoa monitors. Anyone have experience/info on the Viewsonic > 17 vs the Sony CDP1730? In that case I wouldn't purchase a DELL, to be honest. The Viewsonic CAN be good, but QC has always been questionable with Viewsonic and MAG monitors. The Sony 1730 has a very nice picture, but has a VERY low bandwidth -- we're talking 60MHz here, which is WAY too low if you want to run flicker free 1024x768 (I think the 1730 only supports 70Hz at this resolution) and completely out of the question at resolutions above 1024. I wish there was a better choice for NS/i systems -- NeXT seems REAL slow in verifying new systems. For example, the Zeos Pantera/66 looks like it would be great for NS, but whether its onboard NCR SCSI is supported is questionable, as is its default PCI videoboard (a Diamond Viper w/2MB). For NS/fip, the only 17" monitors I would consider are: Nanao F550i (if on a tight budget) IBM 17P (Trinitron -- best all around monitor for price) Nanao T560i (REAL expensive, best 17" monitor in the universe) Hope this helps, Brian -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Hook | Specializing in real-time 3D graphics | | Box 90315 |---------------------------------------| | Gainesville, FL 32607 | Internet: bwh@cis.ufl.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sony GDM-17SE1 monitor? Date: 28 Mar 1994 21:50:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2n7jf5$7js@galaxy.ucr.edu> Anyone have any experience with this monitor (Sony GDM-17SE1)? It seems to have much better specs than their CDP1730. -jonathan nagler jonathan nagler nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu; assistant professor [NextMail Okay] department of political science IP: 138.23.106.51 university of california Voice: (909) 787-7258 riverside, ca. 92521-0118 Fax : (909) 787-3933
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 28 Mar 1994 21:53:04 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2n7jk0$s5j@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> <BWH.94Mar28153236@beach.cis.ufl.edu> In article <BWH.94Mar28153236@beach.cis.ufl.edu>, Brian Hook <bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu> wrote: >In article <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) writes: > >> Dell won't sell me a machine headless; and doesn't offer >> Nanoa monitors. Anyone have experience/info on the Viewsonic >> 17 vs the Sony CDP1730? > >In that case I wouldn't purchase a DELL, to be honest. The Viewsonic CAN >be good, but QC has always been questionable with Viewsonic and MAG > > [misc deleted] > >For NS/fip, the only 17" monitors I would consider are: > > Nanao F550i (if on a tight budget) > IBM 17P (Trinitron -- best all around monitor for price) > Nanao T560i (REAL expensive, best 17" monitor in the universe) > I haven't seen these others, but I'll say that the MAG 17" (aka GW 1776LE w/digital display) works well up to 1120x832x16bitx60Hz. The know the MAG 15" Monitors are dogs, and I wouldn't bother to defend them. Some of the newer monitors may be better than the MAG 17", but the unit was highly rated at this time last year and is probably among the less exspensive around. Your mileage(and eyeballs) may vary. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 28 Mar 1994 22:57:06 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Message-ID: <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> <BWH.94Mar28153236@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <2n7jk0$s5j@news.acns.nwu.edu> In-reply-to: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu's message of 28 Mar 1994 21:53:04 GMT In article <2n7jk0$s5j@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes: > I haven't seen these others, but I'll say that the MAG 17" (aka GW 1776LE > w/digital display) works well up to 1120x832x16bitx60Hz. The know the > MAG 15" Monitors are dogs, and I wouldn't bother to defend them. Some > of the newer monitors may be better than the MAG 17", but the unit was > highly rated at this time last year and is probably among the less > exspensive around. Many lower end monitors CAN look nice. MAG and Viewsonics fall in this category -- some look good, some look like dog crap. The problem is that quality control with both of the above manuf. is pretty horrible, but sometimes a nice monitor makes it out. Also, I would not run at 60Hz -- I can't handle the flicker. At least 72Hz for me before I'll consider using a given resolution. Be wary of deriving too much information from a single individual -- too many people have purchased VERY marginal products, like the CTX1760LR, on the basis that one guy said "Hey, I have that monitor, and it looks great." A single data point does not a sample population make (or something like that). This is a problem with a lot of net.reviews -- someone buys a single monitor and thinks that because it is very nice that they have a good deal. I pass judgment on groups of monitors -- I've seen a REAL nice Mag 17, but I've also seen three real bad ones. Also, computer magazines tend to be very unreliable. They put too much stock in their measurements and, worst of all, a SINGLE MONITOR. I have seen the MAG 17 and Viewsonic 7/17 vary year to year from "horrible misconvergence" to "great monitor!". I look for consistent winners -- the Nanaos and NECs. Low end monitors that win awards (Sceptre, MAG, etc.) tend to do so because an anomalous monitor (or hand picked one) made it to the testing staff instead of a "typical" monitor. I've used a LOT of 17" monitors, still not a large enough sample population to publish anything or make definitive sweeping statements, but from my experience, I have made the following personal conclusions: 1. Trinitron tubes always look the best. 2. Trinitron tubes can also look pretty bad. 3. Nanao universally makes good monitors, regardless of tube type. 4. MAG, Viewsonic, ADI, CTX, etc. quality control wavers a LOT. 5. NEC makes very high quality monitors, but the glare is sometimes overpowering. Too expensive, too. So, if I want something REAL nice, I always go with a Nanao. Always. Nanao doesn't fuck things up. Also, having a Trinitron tube does not guarantee a good monitor -- the electronics behind it matter too. We have a bunch of NCD 19" Trinitron X-Terms, and some of them are HORRIBLE. Brian -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Hook | Specializing in real-time 3D graphics | | Box 90315 |---------------------------------------| | Gainesville, FL 32607 | Internet: bwh@cis.ufl.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sony GDM-17SE1 monitor? Date: 28 Mar 1994 22:58:22 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Message-ID: <BWH.94Mar28175822@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2n7jf5$7js@galaxy.ucr.edu> In-reply-to: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu's message of 28 Mar 1994 21:50:29 GMT In article <2n7jf5$7js@galaxy.ucr.edu> nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) writes: Anyone have any experience with this monitor (Sony GDM-17SE1)? It seems to have much better specs than their CDP1730. -jonathan nagler It is a lot better specwise than the 1730, however I haven't seen any positive reviews OR net.reviews of this monitor, leading me to believe that QC may be a problem. A similarly priced alternative, which I have heard nothing but raves about, is the IBM 17P, also Trinitron based. Brian -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Hook | Specializing in real-time 3D graphics | | Box 90315 |---------------------------------------| | Gainesville, FL 32607 | Internet: bwh@cis.ufl.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: i486 DX4 100Mhz Benchmark Date: 28 Mar 1994 09:08:16 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2n66q0$96@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Mar25.234118.29361@logibec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sta@logibec.com writes > This is the benchmark for the > Intel GX/Pro with DX4 100mhz processor, 32M RAM in 1120*832*16 > > NXBench.app v2.0 > > Dhrystone/s ->> 68337 > VAX MIPS ->> 43.38 _That_ slow? My DX2/66 performs at 62761 = 39.85 "VAX-MIPS". Where is the advantage of the DX4 (which is a DX3, actually!)??? > Mandelbrot.app ->> 100% faster than 66Mhz. I normally have diffent things to do with my computer than calculating fractals. Could anyone run BenchPress.app on DX4? -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Veni, vidi, NeXTSTEPi.
From: pgeiss@aeon.ucsd.edu (Peter Geissler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hard(disk)decision Date: 28 Mar 1994 18:36:36 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <2n783k$h70@network.ucsd.edu> Hi everybody I have to buy a gigabyte SCSI hard disk for a 486 running nextstep. I am thinking about either a Micropolis 2210 or a Seagate ST 11200N disk. Does anybody has expierience/problems with this disks ? Or does anybody knows which one is to prefer ? Thanks in advance for any help Peter pgeiss@aeon.ucsd.edu
From: christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hard(disk)decision Date: 29 Mar 1994 06:21:55 GMT Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2n8he3$oh@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> References: <2n783k$h70@network.ucsd.edu> In article <2n783k$h70@network.ucsd.edu> pgeiss@aeon.ucsd.edu (Peter Geissler) writes: > I have to buy a gigabyte SCSI hard disk > for a 486 running nextstep. I am > thinking about either a > Micropolis 2210 or a Seagate ST 11200N disk. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > pgeiss@aeon.ucsd.edu I would have to recommend against the ST11200N. It is fairly fast, formats to about 1.08GB, and is reasonably quiet. However I had one fail hard. The controller board had at least 20 retraces on it. Yes, there were 20 little wires running around bad connections on a shipping drive! Perhaps Seagate has improved the quality of current drives. I do not know, but the one I got was bad. I should receive a replacement in a few days, so I can see if the retraces are fixed. -- Christopher Douty christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government Christopher_Douty@hmc.edu | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty, ----------------------------------------------+ the weak, severely limited government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
From: skeezics@teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Argh!! Need help opening NeXT cube! Date: 28 Mar 1994 18:41:22 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <2n84gi$at5@elaine.teleport.com> References: <2n74np$rp0@elaine.teleport.com> Keywords: tried 'em all Thanks! I got a bunch of replies, and the concensus is: #3 ball wrench, or a 3mm hex. If this is in the hardware FAQ, sorry 'bout the waste of bandwidth. But thanks for all the replies! After three years of virtually non-stop operation, I'm a little nervous about how much dust and crap has built up inside there, so maybe I'll have an interesting reply in a couple of days... :-) "Well, after I fought off the hordes of small crawly things, there was the thick layer of grime that took about six boxes of scouring powder..." -- Chris -- skeezics@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-0636 (1200/2400, N81)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: The new ATI mach64 graphics card In-Reply-To: gerti@tms-gmbh.de's message of Mon, 28 Mar 1994 17:56:41 GMT To: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Mar28175734@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94Mar25084726@capitalist.princeton.edu> <CnDz6I.1K5@tms-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 22:57:34 GMT In article <CnDz6I.1K5@tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) writes: In article <CEDMAN.94Mar25084726@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: >> [munch] >> * 24-bit color to 1280x1024 (doesn't say what refresh rate) > > That I find very hard to believe. With a standard encoding for 24 bit > color you need one 32 bit word for each pixel. That means that > 1280x1024 needs about 5.2 MBytes of VRAM which is more than the card > has. And even if the ATI card has a more compact encoding which > really only uses 24 bit/pixel for 24 bit color, performance is almost > certainly degraded and NS 3.2 certainly doesn't understand that > encoding. Who says, that in the 32 bit word there have to be 32 bit ram, if only 24 bit are used? Physically, you need only 4 MB for 1280x1024x24bit. With NEXTSTEP (at least how I understand it) the VRAM is used write only, so in a 4 byte word there may be only 3 bytes of ram. Even then there is still the problem of addressing. Accessing longwords on odd sized byte boundaries is either impossible or very slow on my architectures. Now what ATI could do would be some clever mapping which maps 4 MBytes of VRAM into over 5 MByte of address space by throwing away i.e. the high byte on every write and replacing it with null on every read. On the other hand, if this was easily done efficiently considering the high prices of VRAM it would have been done a long time ago. Contrary to that every single video board for PC and workstation class machines uses one 32 bit longword for every pixel of 24 bit true color. Otherwise a concept like it is used in the Gecko wouldn't work either! The Gecko has 8 bit graphics and a correspondingly small amount of VRAM. CRT or whatever glorified dithering is called these days doesn't enter at that level. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Dead (blank) Mono Monitor Message-ID: <CnEJ1p.1t1@nexusadmin.com> Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 01:05:48 GMT We have a mono monitor that suddenly went blank. It is still passing signals to the keyboard as we can power the machine on and off from the keyboard. Is this a symptom of a known major problem that is worth repairing or should we consider this one a goner? Please reply by email if possible. Thanks, -- David W. Fahrney =:-) Nexus Administration VOX: 310.640.3342 INT: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: High End PC Hardware Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 02:01:17 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <JI-u5Vd.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2nadq8$am@cerberus.wsc.com> Darcy: We've got one of our machines at BusLogic this week, looking at the 445s option for our current product. PCI video, SCSI and ethernet solutions are not that far away for our initial pentium-66Mhz products. Marty
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DECpc 433 & NEXTSTEP? Date: 31 Mar 1994 08:01:53 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ne01h$74n@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Howdy, Below is an excerpt from a recent misc.forsale.computers.workstation posting, does anybody know if the foll owing system works with NEXTSTEP? It doesn't seem to be in the compatibility guide, and my guess is that the TMS34020 isn't supported. But I figured I might as well ask. > DECpc 433 Workstation ( desktop box, 2-3/4"h x 16-1/2"w x 15"d ) > > Includes: > - 1280x1024x8 (256 of 16M colors) graphics using TMS34020 Graphics > System Processor, 2MB VRAM (add up to 16MB for GSP workspace), > supports standard 256K VGA compatible software via on-board VGA chip > - built-in SCSI adapter (Adaptec 6260 chip) > - choice of built-in Token Ring w/ UTP & STP or Ethernet w/ > Thinwire(10base2) & TP(10baseT) > - 12 SIMM sockets in 3 banks, accepts 1Mb x9 or 4Mb x9, 80ns > - internal IDE/floppy controller > - 1 drive bay for 3.5" Floppy or IDE drive > - space for one internal 2.5" IDE > - PS/2 style extended keyboard & 3-Button mouse > - 2 serial ports (std 16C450 compat.), 1 parallel (bi-directional) See ya, -- Paul (NeXTmail preferred) # Paul R. Tognato-Haddad
From: chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Hans-Christian Boos ETH-Zurich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 Drivers for NeXT on INTeL Date: 29 Mar 1994 11:18:38 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <2n92qe$biu@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> NNTP-Posting-User: chris Does anyone know of a driver for the NE2000 or even NE1000 network Card for NeXT ? I believe there must be some drivers even in Beta state... Since this is the most widely spread card on the PC marked... I really hope someone can help.... Chris
From: willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (Willi Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANTED: Miro Crystal 24S Driver Date: 29 Mar 1994 13:46:47 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <1994Mar29.154647@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at> Originator: willi@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at Hello, Has anybody out there written a NSfIP driver for the Miro Crystal 24S graphic card (S386C928, 3MB VRAM)? I called Miro Germany and someone told me that they have drivers for the 8S and the 32S, but do not plan to release one for the 16S and the 24S, since these cards are to be discontinued. Any pointers welcome, Thanks, Willi
From: baer@psssun.pss.msu.edu (Brian Baer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! My NeXTstation is dead. Date: 29 Mar 1994 14:07:36 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <2n9cn8$gee@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Summary: NeXTstation is dead, won't restart, any suggestions? Keywords: NeXTstation dead Help! I went to use my NeXTstation (Mono, 25Mhz, '040) this morning and it was dead. When I tried to turn it back on the fan came on for 1-2 seconds than the computer turned itself back off. My guess is that it is the power supply that is the problem, but wondering if it could be the keyboard system for turning on/off the power. Do not have a second machine to swap keyboards with to test this. Has any one seen this problem? Any suggestion for a fix? Thanks -- Brian Baer baer@psssun.pss.msu.edu Programmer Analyst, Dept. of Crop & Soil Science, Michigan State University
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NE2000 Drivers for NeXT on INTeL Date: 29 Mar 1994 14:45:09 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2n9etl$13b@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <2n92qe$biu@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Hans-Christian Boos ETH-Zurich (chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE) wrote: : Does anyone know of a driver for the NE2000 or even NE1000 : network Card for NeXT ? I believe there must be some drivers : even in Beta state... Since this is the most widely spread : card on the PC marked... : I really hope someone can help.... I have here a beta version of an NEx000 driver running with 3.1! The original author was so kind to give me the source, since he didn't find the time to maintain it any more. The DriverKit interface has definitely changed from 3.1 to 3.2, so you need to do some changes to get it up'n'running (yes, I was to lazy yet to browse the documentation, especially since I have now an SMC). Since your email address got lost, I can't send the source direct to you. Please contact me and I'll send it to you (NeXTmail ??). But NO WARRANTY! Bye, Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Hard(disk)decision Message-ID: <CnFnxC.119@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2n8he3$oh@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 15:48:47 GMT In article <2n8he3$oh@jaws.cs.hmc.edu> christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty) writes: > I would have to recommend against the ST11200N. It is fairly fast, formats to > about 1.08GB, and is reasonably quiet. However I had one fail hard. The > controller board had at least 20 retraces on it. Yes, there were 20 little > wires running around bad connections on a shipping drive! Perhaps Seagate has > improved the quality of current drives. I do not know, but the one I got was > bad. I should receive a replacement in a few days, so I can see if the > retraces are fixed. > One could argue about that. Retraces: I am sure, that this were not 'wires running around bad connections', but last minute improvements to the electronics. For my part I would rather have 'retraces' and a therefore more up to date controller, than a controller with no retraces, but therefore maybe slower in performance etc. And about crashes: ANY drive can crash. And if one company sells huge numbers of drives, the probability is higher to hear about one of those drives crashing than from a company that sells small numbers of drives. I am NOT especially a fan of SEAGATE, but I think, that had to be said. AND: The only drives (so far) in my history that crashed were a MAXTOR and a QUANTUM... Gerd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: The new ATI mach64 graphics card Message-ID: <CnFo5u.124@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <CEDMAN.94Mar28175734@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 15:53:53 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Mar28175734@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <CnDz6I.1K5@tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) writes: > In article <CEDMAN.94Mar25084726@capitalist.princeton.edu> > cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > >> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: > >> [munch] > >> * 24-bit color to 1280x1024 (doesn't say what refresh rate) > > > > That I find very hard to believe. With a standard encoding for 24 bit > > color you need one 32 bit word for each pixel. That means that > > 1280x1024 needs about 5.2 MBytes of VRAM which is more than the card > > has. And even if the ATI card has a more compact encoding which > > really only uses 24 bit/pixel for 24 bit color, performance is almost > > certainly degraded and NS 3.2 certainly doesn't understand that > > encoding. > > Who says, that in the 32 bit word there have to be 32 bit ram, if only 24 > bit are used? Physically, you need only 4 MB for 1280x1024x24bit. With > NEXTSTEP (at least how I understand it) the VRAM is used write only, so in > a 4 byte word there may be only 3 bytes of ram. > > Even then there is still the problem of addressing. Accessing > longwords on odd sized byte boundaries is either impossible or very > slow on my architectures. Now what ATI could do would be some clever > mapping which maps 4 MBytes of VRAM into over 5 MByte of address space > by throwing away i.e. the high byte on every write and replacing it > with null on every read. On the other hand, if this was easily done > efficiently considering the high prices of VRAM it would have been > done a long time ago. Contrary to that every single video board for > PC and workstation class machines uses one 32 bit longword for every > pixel of 24 bit true color. I verified it by now, thats what they are doing. Weitek is doing it on the new P9000 boards, and it was also done on some of the first VGA cards that did 24 bit graphics. > > Otherwise a concept like it is used in the Gecko wouldn't work > either! > > The Gecko has 8 bit graphics and a correspondingly small amount of > VRAM. CRT or whatever glorified dithering is called these days > doesn't enter at that level. OK, I do not know, how the gecko does it. But in theory, there could be some electronics, that appear to the CPU as some MB of RAM, but in fact are some electronics that reduce the data to whatever repesentation and store it in a smaller memory. > > Carl Edman Gerd
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Repair of broken SIMM socket Date: 29 Mar 1994 16:14:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: world Message-ID: <2n9k5l$nfb@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> A client who travels all around the country demoing his NS healthcare app on his NeXTstation Color has a hardware problem that needs fixing. Despite his attempts to pack his hardware well, the airlines have risen to the challenge and have managed to throw his hardware around enough to destroy 2 keyboards and now, to break a SIMM socket. Socket 0 (next to the power supply) has broken so that the SIMM leans over toward the power supply and doesn't make good electrical contact with the socket. It must have been thrown pretty hard to have caused this kind of damage :-( The machine won't boot any longer (exception 3). If the SIMM's in 0 and 1 are removed, it won't boot either (exception 2), probably because memory must be installed in 0 and 1 (is this true?). The system correctly reports memory in the sockets 2 - 7, but won't boot. Has anyone ever replaced a plastic SIMM socket? Is it doable? Bell Atlantic seems to do only board swaps which is a pretty expensive repair for what is probably nothing more than physical damage to an inexpensive part. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 28 Mar 1994 01:43:43 -0500 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2n5uav$9op@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. 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From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (randal rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted morningstar PPP, and source for NeXT printer transparancies.. Date: 29 Mar 1994 20:29:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <2na346$m5a@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: Transparancies, PPP I am looking for at least one, perhaps more copies of morningstars PPP for black hardware. Not knowing about versions of the PPP I'd like to run them under NS3.0, and it would be nice when we upgrade to 3.2 to have it work there too. The software should be transferable (license) . I am aware we could buy directly from morningstar, but as always looking for best price available. Send asking prices to address beloW. Also we would like to know what sources for Next printer transparancy sheets there are, and what prices. I don't even want to repeaT the price we were quoted. And I saw on c.s.n.h some note previously about what mouse would replace a NeXT mouse. Could someone who is knowledgable (who has a non-next mouse working on Black) tell me what are good replacements. (I heard that some Mac mice work ok, but which ones? Thanks.) As a final note. I personally am interested in purchasing any black hardware (printers, motherboards, memory, mice, keyboards, OD's, anything that hooks to black hardware) that one might throw in the junk heap or whatever. My interest is to learn directly (without having to chance damaging my nice ND) how to repair this stuff (I have all the equipment for most jobs, digital or analog) but seeing as bell atlantic or canon has all the documentation on schematics and their prices are out of sight (and who knows how long they will continue to do swaps) I'm left with one option get dead or near dead stuff and go over it with a fine tooth comb. send any information to Randy Rencsok rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (No NeXTMail here please) rencsok@cteq14.pa.msu.edu (NeXTMail OK here) Or call 517-546-4037 P.S. Don't expect I'll pay lot's for quirky stuff. I'm looking for dirt cheap stuff that I can afford to break to learn. But I'll pay all reasonable shipping costs.
From: the Lost Cause Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Projector systems Date: 29 Mar 1994 19:55:10 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2na12u$ke6@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> Ok. Had the A/V tech here in the other morning asking me about classroom projection systems for NeXT Black Hardware. I had no answers for him. Anyone out there got any suggestions, or know of any systems to do this with? Follow up here, or e-mail, makes no diff to me. If I get enough response, I will summarize. Jeff -- ************************************************************************ the Lost Cause jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (hardwaire guy extraordinaire) MACTech,NeXTtech; NeXTmail accepted "Everything is relative." ************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Subject: cleaning disc for optical drive ?!? Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CnG81n.CG5@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 23:03:23 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Keywords: optical, cleaning disc Hello, does someone know, if there exists a cleaning Disk for Next's (Coanons) optical disc drive ???? My drive is a little old, and I start to get more read errors... Please email me , cause I cant read News for the next 2 weeks -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.animation,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Fournier_Rene@pcp.ca (Rene Fournier) Subject: Which is better, Sony GDM-17SE1, IBM 17p, or NEC 5FGp? Message-ID: <1994Mar29.165802.990@pcp.ca> Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 16:58:02 GMT Hi everyone! The subject title says it all. Which monitor do you think is better for use with Macs (specifically, PowerMacs @ 1157x832x32k colours and 832x624x16.8million colours)? Image quality is by far the most important aspect to me, followed by half-descent asthetics, price, etc. You should also know that, for me, the IBM 17p is the cheapest of the lot (also the ugliest, in my opinion). Yet is was reviewed as the best 17" monitor of the lot (quality-wise) in Byte. Also, how Mac-friendly are these three? Do they come with the necessary cables, etc.? I'd be very interested in hearing from anyone who uses either of these three monitors. Thank you. ..Rene
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video From: fineman@grizzly.cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman) Subject: Anyone have the latest ATI drivers? Message-ID: <1994Mar29.212329.2566@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 21:23:29 GMT I'm gonna have an ATI GUP 2mb card (rev.6), and i'd like to find the latest DOS/Windows &/or NeXTStep drivers... anyone know where I might find them? thanx dan fineman@cs.washington.edu
From: andym@hq.af.mil (Lt Andrew McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3 driver for 3.2 on IBM ValuePoint - Does not work Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 16:16:57 Organization: 7CG/XPE USAF Message-ID: <andym.10.001048D0@hq.af.mil> Keywords: ValuePoint S3 NS3.2 3.2 The S3 video driver bundled with NS 3.2 for Intel does not work with IBM PS/ValuePoints! I've tried every display option the driver gave me, and all of them distort the video completely. I tried the 3.1 driver which I'm told works well under 3.1, but on the boot it reports that the Driver "uses incompatible DriverKit 310". My next possible option is to try recompiling the 3.1 driver under 3.2... but that will have to wait until my developer software arrives. -- Lt Andy McConnell Communications Engineer 7th Communications Group, USAF Pentagon andym@hq.af.mil
From: peter@uni-siegen.de (Peter Merz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep for Intel and Adaptec 2842? Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:43:10 GMT Organization: Computer Center, University of Siegen, Germany Message-ID: <2naeee$pgr@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de> The Hardware Compatibility Guide of NextStep says that the Adaptec AHA 2742 will be supported soon (Q1 94). What about the Vesa Local Bus Version AHA 2842? -- ******************************************************************** Peter Merz - Student at the University of Siegen, GERMANY Adresses: Internet: pmerz@hrz.uni-siegen.de X400: peter.merz@hrz.uni-siegen.d400.de ********************************************************************
From: iwj@white.dogwood.com (Ian Jackson) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization Supersedes: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Date: 29 Mar 1994 18:04:25 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> FINAL CALL FOR VOTES comp.sys.next.hardware reorganisation This is the 2nd and final Call for Votes regarding the proposal to split comp.sys.next.hardware into three unmoderated groups, comp.sys.next.hardware.i386, .m68k and .misc. Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on the 5th of April 1994. Please see below for voting instructions and contact information. CHARTERS ======== comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 Computers running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors This group is intended for discussion of hardware topics relating to NeXTstep running on Intel x86 series processors. Appropriate topics include (but are of course not limited to) the various vendors of NeXTstep compatible Intel x86 systems, ISA/EISA/VLB/PCI cards and drivers for such systems and the DriverKit. comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k Computers running NeXTSTEP for NeXT Computers This group is intended for discussion of hardware topics relating to NeXTstep running on Motorola 680x0 series processors. Currently this includes all hardware questions relating to turbo and non-turbo NeXTcube and NeXTstations systems as well as NeXTdimension systems. comp.sys.next.hardware.misc Peripherals and miscellaneous Hardware (renamed from comp.sys.next.hardware) NeXTstep related hardware questions which belong in none or all of the existing processor specific groups belong in comp.sys.next.hardware.misc. Appropriate topics include the discussion of SCSI devices, modems and printers as related to NeXTstep, any topic relating to NeXTstep on new processors for which no processor specific group has yet been created, and many more. If this group is created it will replace comp.sys.next.hardware, which will therefore be removed approximately three months later. Crossposts between any of these three groups are discouraged. A subject appropriate for one of the processor specific newsgroups is by definition inappropriate for the .misc group, and a question which could go to both of them generally belongs in neither but only in the .misc group. RATIONALE ========= As NeXTSTEP has started to support multiple hardware architectures, the articles in comp.sys.next.hardware are clearly split right now. They are unrelated, but happen to be in the same newsgroup; things are going to be even worse when new hardware architectures are supported. This split will help to make reading hardware articles easier, as related articles will be grouped together. People only interested in one hardware architecture don't have to dig through all articles in order to find those they are interested in. The following naming rule for hardware groups has been applied, so that users of NeXTSTEP computers know at once which hardware newsgroup to use: comp.sys.next.hardware.`/usr/bin/arch` (this is the same as the MACH cpu type -- see man 3 arch). This is not ideal, but it is predictable. Fancier names could be chosen, but again, people would have to ask for the correct name of his newsgroup, and this discussion would start again and again with every new hardware architecture. VOTING INSTRUCTIONS =================== YOUR VOTE WILL BE COUNTED BY A PROGRAM. Please use the template below and follow the instructions exactly. If you do not do so your ballot may not be understood and would then be returned to you with your vote uncounted. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Message-ID: <1994Mar29.191655.1821@sydney.bo.open.de> Sender: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) Organization: NeXT Cube, Bochum, Germany References: <7644298285925@dalek.mcs.anl.gov> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 19:16:55 GMT In article <7644298285925@dalek.mcs.anl.gov> olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes: > Has anyone been able to set a headless machine up as a print server? > We have tried, but get errors to the effect that the print daemon > cannot talk to the window server. I am already interesting in this! Under 2.1 the WS works on an Headless NeXT, but under 3.x it dosen't. Has anyone brings a headless machine up to work without a Window Server? -- Ciao mmo email: mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (NeXTmail welcome) --
From: brady@rock.concert.net (Donald C Brady -- Comintel Inc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitor Size for NextStep? Date: 30 Mar 1994 01:18:25 GMT Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Dial UNIX Message-ID: <2nak11$hn@inxs.concert.net> I am setting up a hardware configuration to eventually run NextStep for Intel. Should I get a 21" or a 17" monitor? I will be mainly doing financial programming. I can afford the 21" if it is a significant advantage. Thanks, Don
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: High End PC Hardware Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:32:24 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2nadq8$am@cerberus.wsc.com> (Is it an oxymoron? :-) So, what's the current word on PCI SCSI cards, VLB SCSI cards and PCI video cards? Can we make a proper FAQ file? Last I heard from Dell was that they were still testing the Talus drivers for their OmniPlex Pentium (onboard PCI video and SCSI). I have a PC with an ISA/VLB architecture, and I'd like to put the SCSI disk on the VLB. Any word on any controllers and drivers that will let me do this? My short list of fast hardware supported: ### PCI Video ### - miro crystal card - ATI on-board Dell OmniPlex Pentium (soon) ### PCI SCSI ### - NCR on-board Dell OmniPlex Pentium (soon) ### VLB SCSI ### - ??? Can anyone build on this list? Send me email and I'll summarize... - darcy
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 30 Mar 1994 03:16:27 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> <BWH.94Mar28153236@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <2n7jk0$s5j@news.acns.nwu.edu> <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu> In article <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu>, > >Also, computer magazines tend to be very unreliable. They put too much >stock in their measurements and, worst of all, a SINGLE MONITOR. I have >seen the MAG 17 and Viewsonic 7/17 vary year to year from "horrible >misconvergence" to "great monitor!". I look for consistent winners -- the >Nanaos and NECs. Low end monitors that win awards (Sceptre, MAG, etc.) >tend to do so because an anomalous monitor (or hand picked one) made it to >the testing staff instead of a "typical" monitor. > >I've used a LOT of 17" monitors, still not a large enough sample population >to publish anything or make definitive sweeping statements, but from my >experience, I have made the following personal conclusions: > > 1. Trinitron tubes always look the best. > 2. Trinitron tubes can also look pretty bad. > 3. Nanao universally makes good monitors, regardless of tube type. > 4. MAG, Viewsonic, ADI, CTX, etc. quality control wavers a LOT. > 5. NEC makes very high quality monitors, but the glare is > sometimes overpowering. Too expensive, too. > I'd like to make a comment on NEC monitors. I was a disbeliever until I had the chance to evaluate a NEC 5FGe personally on my NEXTSTEP/Intel system for a week. The picture was absolutely gorgeous, albeit only at 1024x768. I was so impressed that I bought a NEC 6FGp. I've had it for two days, and so far, I'm EXTREMELY disappointed. The picture is very fuzzy, the bottom- left corner of the screen hikes up, 1" of the left edge of the screen is out of focus, and switching between programs in DOS shifts the image by a couple of inches, requiring constant adjustment! These problems were very noticable when using the included SVGA cable. I have also tried connecting through an RGB BNC cable, and the picture was much improved, but still had some distortion. NEC will definitely be hearing from me very soon about a replacement! The one plus point I can make about the monitor is that it works at 1600x1200, something it is not certified for. The screen does have much less glare, but definitely at a price - the 5FGe had a much brighter display. As far as pricing goes, the careful buyer can get one of these monitors at Viewsonic prices, if he/she is resourceful enough...
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 30 Mar 1994 05:14:51 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Message-ID: <BWH.94Mar30001451@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> <BWH.94Mar28153236@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <2n7jk0$s5j@news.acns.nwu.edu> <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In-reply-to: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 30 Mar 1994 03:16:27 GMT In article <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: >>>> I'd like to make a comment on NEC monitors. I was a disbeliever until I had the chance to evaluate a NEC 5FGe personally on my NEXTSTEP/Intel system for a week. The picture was absolutely gorgeous, albeit only at 1024x768. I was so impressed that I bought a NEC 6FGp. I've had it for two days, and so far, I'm EXTREMELY disappointed. The picture is very fuzzy, the bottom- left corner of the screen hikes up, 1" of the left edge of the screen is out of focus, and switching between programs in DOS shifts the image by a couple of inches, requiring constant adjustment! These problems were very noticable when using the included SVGA cable. I have also tried connecting through an RGB BNC cable, and the picture was much improved, but still had some distortion. NEC will definitely be hearing from me very soon about a replacement! >>>> As the saying goes, your mileage may vary. I have heard of certain rare instances when Nanao monitors have looked bad, but these FAR more rare (as a matter of fact, I've only heard this once) than when you hear about CTX, ADI, Amdek, MAG, Viewsonic, etc. monitors. NEC makes nice monitors, and generally they look quite good (modulo glare on their non-glare-reducing ones) and NEC has EXCELLENT service policies. If you want a very nice 21" I would consider the IBM 21P or Nanao units, and the NEC units are supposed to be nice. Try swapping it out for another unit -- if it still looks like crap, get another monitor. If it STILL looks like crap, maybe it's the video card. Brian -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Hook | Specializing in real-time 3D graphics | | Box 90315 |---------------------------------------| | Gainesville, FL 32607 | Internet: bwh@cis.ufl.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.powerpc From: nk4v@poe.acc.virginia.edu (Naohiro Koshiya) Subject: NeXTSTEP on PowerPC? Message-ID: <NK4V.94Mar29212122@poe.acc.virginia.edu> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 02:21:22 GMT Anything about it? -- Naohiro -- Naohiro Koshiya koshiya@virginia.edu
From: tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Date: 30 Mar 1994 05:35:20 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Message-ID: <2nb32o$9l1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <7644298285925@dalek.mcs.anl.gov> <1994Mar29.191655.1821@sydney.bo.open.de> In <1994Mar29.191655.1821@sydney.bo.open.de> mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) writes: >In article <7644298285925@dalek.mcs.anl.gov> olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes: >> Has anyone been able to set a headless machine up as a print server? >> We have tried, but get errors to the effect that the print daemon >> cannot talk to the window server. >I am already interesting in this! Under 2.1 the WS works on an Headless NeXT, but under 3.x it >dosen't. >Has anyone brings a headless machine up to work without a Window Server? It is very simple to run headless without the WindowServer. Unfortunately, the NeXTPrinter won't work without the WindowServer. The trick is to get WindowServer to run reliably. 2.1 sort of worked, but crashed when the printer ran out of paper and the English lady (or whatever) tried to speak. 3.0 seemed to need at least a sound box to run the Window Server. 3.2 on a 68030 would not use the alternate console with a sound box attached. Except for energy consumption, a monitor is the best solution. Headless machines likely eluded quality control. -- .. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Operating NeXTStation Headlessly Date: 30 Mar 1994 07:02:25 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2nb861$g1q@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <2nb32o$9l1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> In article <2nb32o$9l1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca () writes: > In <1994Mar29.191655.1821@sydney.bo.open.de> mmo@sydney.bo.open.de (Michael Mossal) writes: > > >In article <7644298285925@dalek.mcs.anl.gov> olson@dalek.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson) writes: > >> Has anyone been able to set a headless machine up as a print server? > >> We have tried, but get errors to the effect that the print daemon > >> cannot talk to the window server. > > >I am already interesting in this! Under 2.1 the WS works on an Headless NeXT, but under 3.x it > >dosen't. > > >Has anyone brings a headless machine up to work without a Window Server? We have one running in our lab (a 68030 Cube, running NS3.0), but with the Window Server running. The internal 40 MB drive has a very small OS on it with the bare basics and enough of /NextLibary on it to run the print jobs (i.e. Fonts, PrinterTypes, PS2Resources). The rest is NFS mounted. We took a dead monitor, and pulled out the rear card at the back of it (we had a dead monitor - the main reason for running headless in the first place). Usually the monitor power supply/tube fails, but the input card should be ok. For us it wsn't worth the expense to ship it out for repair, and all we really wanted was a machine to stick the printer on which wouldn't be a console machine anyway. Then we built a flat ribbon cable with 2 DB-25 male connectors (with some of the end pins pulled out so they would fit over the 19 pin card connector and the cpu's monitor port. Choose the best fit on the cpu card, and either pull out pins 11,12,13,23,24,25 or 1,2,3,14,15,16 (I can't visualise what we did just now). DB25's were used because DB19's are special-order and costly. If you're cutting out 11,12,13,23,24,25: Pins 1-10 on the DB25 map to pins 1-10 on the monitor pinout, while pins 14-22 then map to pins 11-19. If you're cutting out 1,2,3,14,15,16: Pins 4-13 on the DB25 map to pins 1-10 on the monitor pinout, while pins 17-25 then map to pins 11-19. Then we used a simple micro-switch mounted on one of the empty slot covers, and tied it to pin 6 and one of the GNDs (i.e. pin 13). Any momentary-close normally open switch will do to simulate the power key. Mount the monitor card inside the cube on one of the empty slot tracks by some sturdy method (we used a piece of plastic with the same dimensions as the cpu board, and mounted the monitor card on that). Route the ribbon cable alongside the cpu board and into the interior onto the card, close it up, and you're ready to go. You may have to remove some material on the cpu rear mount plate to allow the ribbon to lie flat and prevent the back cover from pinching it. Nothing special software wise. The Window server can run (since it thinks it has a monitor, although we enabled ttya in /etc/ttys just in case it might complain about no keyboard being present (can't recall whether this made any difference or not). The micro-switch will function just like the power key. Hitting it once will power it up, hitting it again would cause an "imaginary" Alert window to display :-) - for this reason, shutdowns are best accomplished via the shell command over a remote login. Best of luck, -- James S. MacKinnon Office: P-139 Avahd-Bhatia Physics Lab Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226 Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
From: benji@alkymi.unit.no (Jrn Norheim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Mach32 *ISA* possible?? Date: 30 Mar 1994 12:38:43 GMT Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway Message-ID: <2nbrsj$pr@ugle.unit.no> Hello! I recently installed NS 3.2 on my 486/66 with 16MB of RAM. I was disappointed to see that NS only supports localbus ATI Mach32 cards( or possibly EISA or PCI buses ), so my question is this: Is it possible to use an ATI Mach32 GU+ *ISA* card with NS. What about 3.1 drivers? 3.0? Patches? Or have I completely missed something??? -= Joern =-
From: night@cwru.edu (John L. Millard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <2n014e$r1a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Control: cancel <2n014e$r1a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: 30 Mar 1994 13:57:41 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2nc0gm$3ce@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@tms-gmbh.de Subject: Driver for Wacom tablets Message-ID: <CnH99p.oL@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 12:27:25 GMT Hello Net Has anybody information about a driver to use WACOM tablets under NSFIP? Any Information (and NeXTmail) welcome ciao Hans
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Good DAT drives, recommendations sought. Date: 30 Mar 1994 15:52:15 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Message-ID: <2nc77g$rcg@newsflash.mitre.org> I'm in the market for a lower capacity (approx. 2 GByte), SCSI DAT drive, that I'll use as a backup and auxilliary storage device. Can anyone recommend a reliable model that works well with NeXTs and SafetyNet.app? (Any recommendations on suppliers would also be appre- ciated.) Thanks much. - Max | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | | NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | "Necessity is the mother of strange bedfellows." |
From: bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu (Bryan Milligan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need to buy a HD. Recommendations? Date: 30 Mar 1994 16:11:10 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nc8au$r7c@news.tamu.edu> Greetings, O Great Ones of Netland, I find myself desperately needing more hard disk space on my machine. I was looking for something in the 400MB range (external). Could some kind soul please recommend a good source for such a beast? Price is more important than performance at this point. Thanks in advance. -- Bryan Milligan bryan@kolsky.tamu.edu ---- My views are just that. ---- Je reste assis et je regarde fixement dans le vide pendant des heures. (The one French phrase I know.)
From: dcl@panix.com (David Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.dcom.modems Subject: BOCA Modem with NeXTStep 3.2 for Intel? Date: 30 Mar 1994 11:51:48 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <2ncan4$qdk@panix.com> Hi. I am having some problems with this configuration, and since the docs are useless, I was wondering if anybody had been using this modem successfully with NS3.2/Intel and would be willing to help me out a little (in return for my undying gratitude...) I'm especially interested in people who are using it for UUCP. (email responses preferred...summary will be posted...) David Lambert dcl@panix.com
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.dcom.modems Subject: RISC usage in ND card Date: 30 Mar 1994 17:01:49 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <2ncb9t$kus@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <2ncan4$qdk@panix.com> Could anyone enlighten me with the role played by the Intel i860 RISC chip in the NeXT Dimension? Isn't Display Postcript run by 68040? Why is the color graphics speed in NeXTDimension equipped workstations so much slower, even while RISC equipped? What does the chip actually do? I'm sure it does more than compression/decompression: what else? What are the SPECint92, SPECfp92, MIPS, Bus Width, Clock speed numbers of the chip, and how does this compare to other RISC chips? Rimon Huque
From: wfan1@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (William Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: Re: Anyone have the latest ATI drivers? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Date: 30 Mar 1994 17:22:39 GMT Organization: Monash University Message-ID: <2nccgv$q4o@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au> References: <1994Mar29.212329.2566@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Daniel Fineman (fineman@grizzly.cs.washington.edu) wrote: : I'm gonna have an ATI GUP 2mb card (rev.6), and i'd like to find : the latest DOS/Windows &/or NeXTStep drivers... anyone know where : I might find them? Try looking for them at ftp.uunet.ca in pub/ati/drivers. Good Luck.
From: dans@softsource.com (Dan Suslo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.1 installation on Intel - No CDROM drive found Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 17:40:38 GMT Organization: SoftSource Message-ID: <dans.2.2D99B995@softsource.com> First off, is this the place to post installation problems? Problem in a nutshell - No CDROM drive found Use sd%d hd%d fd%d This occurs very early during installation of 3.1 on a Compaq 486/33 L (EISA) with 20 MB RAM (Next Install is only recognizing 16MB) with Adaptec 1542cf, NEC 3X-i CDROM, Micropolis 2210 SCSI HD, no sound card, on board video (512K). System can boot and use the CDROM from MSDOS. I no longer have the ProAudio Spectrum 16 Basic or ATI Pro (EISA) cards in the machine. I've tried the NEC CDR-84 external CDROM. I've tried many Adaptec settings. Micropolis HD is SCSI ID 0, NEC CDROM is SCSI ID 1, Adaptec is SCSI ID 7. I've checked out NextAnswers@next.com. I wish I had checked this group out before buying both the Adaptec and the ATI Pro card (that conflict stinks). Any and all responses are MOST welcome. Dan Suslo
From: grettir@keflavik.wordperfect.com (Grettir Asmundarson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 30 Mar 1994 10:54:14 -0700 Organization: Keflavik Message-ID: <2ncec6$drt@keflavik.wordperfect.com> References: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> jonathan nagler (nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu) wrote: : Dell won't sell me a machine headless; and doesn't offer : Nanoa monitors. Anyone have experience/info on the Viewsonic : 17 vs the Sony CDP1730? : -jonathan I've had much more luck with the Sony 1730's than the Viewsonic 7 & 17's I've come in contact with. Also, the Sony 1730 is no longer manufactured, having been replaced by the 17SE. Dell is most likely trying to get rid of its old stock. See if you can talk them into a 17SE. It is a great improvement over the 1730, yet should be the same price. It can handle anything from standard VGA to 1280x1024 at 77Hz, and with its custom ASIC it doesn't require the constant tweaking that the 1730 required. It also offers a lot more control over centering, size, geometry, convergence, and color temperature (although the adjustment controls are not very intuitive) and adds Energy-Star compliant power saving features. And it has a funky looking case, to boot! My only real complaint is that the 17SE is darker than the 1730. They've added a contrast filter of some sort. The Nanaos that use the same tube are noticably brighter. It's noticable, but not terrible. : jonathan nagler nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu; : assistant professor [NextMail Okay] : department of political science IP: 138.23.106.51 : university of california Voice: (909) 787-7258 : riverside, ca. 92521-0118 Fax : (909) 787-3933 -- "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." - Mark Twain
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.misc From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: PhoneKit and ISDN Extender Message-ID: <CnHqx9.CqE@news.cis.umn.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.misc Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <1994Mar28.074520.11592@cubism> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 18:50:46 GMT Consumed by Pencom, perhaps never to be seen again.... peter Harry Vlahos (vlahos@cubism.portal.com) wrote: : Whatever happened to the PhoneKit? After NeXT dropped it, : I thought that it was going to be available through a : third party. : What happened to it? : Harry Vlahos : vlahos@cubism.portal.com -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@snac.cfa.org
From: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Anenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Mach32 *ISA* possible?? Date: 30 Mar 1994 16:37:23 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Distribution: na Message-ID: <2nc9s3$r04@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <2nbrsj$pr@ugle.unit.no> Jrn Norheim writes #Hello! # #I recently installed NS 3.2 on my 486/66 with 16MB of RAM. I was disappointed #to see that NS only supports localbus ATI Mach32 cards( or possibly EISA or #PCI buses ), so my question is this: Is it possible to use an ATI Mach32 GU+ #*ISA* card with NS. What about 3.1 drivers? 3.0? Patches? #Or have I completely missed something??? # #-= Joern =- I believe that NS3.2 will only do 1024x768 8-bit grayscale(no color) on ISA bus machines. We tried the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, ISA version, and could only get it to work with the Standard VGA driver, not the ATI driver. If you want color you'll have to get an EISA, VLB, PCI bus machine. -- Mark Anenberg , OpenStep Development Team Email: marka@Eng.Sun.COM (NeXTMail Welcome) Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own and in no way represent those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.
From: gzp1000@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.Z. Przybyszewski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: Re: Anyone have the latest ATI drivers? Date: 30 Mar 1994 20:50:26 GMT Organization: U of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <2ncomi$i3a@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <1994Mar29.212329.2566@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Good card this ATI GUP. I bought a GU+ on Sat via mail order (reputable company) and received a card on Monday - only the card was a GUP. No DRAM but 2MB VRAM shit hot speed, great capabilities. Just goes to show that when companies screw up, just sometimes, it can be in *YOUR* favour (saved myself about 120 pounds!!) Gerry.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer) Subject: Exchanging the floppy to a 2nd disk? Message-ID: <1994Mar30.211919.178@balou.rhein.de> Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de Organization: private NeXT Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 21:19:19 GMT Hi, is it possible to exchange the floppy in a slab to a second hard- disk? Of course the disk has to fit in the slab, but is it possi- ble with the power supply? Please reply via e-mail, I'll post a summary. Thanks in advance, tommi --- Thomas Pfleiderer tommi@balou.rhein.de NeXTMail welcome.
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Double-headed Cube (multiple motherboards) Date: 30 Mar 1994 21:07:54 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <2ncpna$3ap@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> I recall that, a few years back, people were multiprocessing on their Cubes, by having multiple motherboards in them, and applying a patch to the OS. What benefit did this give? For instance, could I have my Cube use two motherboards in it, and have the OS automagically split up my tasks between them? (I'm having a bit of trouble explaining exactly what I want here...do you get that idea?) Daniel -- Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Black Serial Ports - How Fast? Message-ID: <CnGKu2.3tw@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <2n76ee$k9e@bilbo.suite.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:39:37 GMT In article <2n76ee$k9e@bilbo.suite.com> shepherd@suite.com (Scot Shepherd) writes: > How fast can I safely run the serial ports on our black hardware??? I've been running Taylor-uucp at 38400 for over half a year without problems. I just went to 57600 without having noticed problems till now (Black 25 MHz). NeXT states that it depends on the underlying hardware if 57600 is reliable or not...(there seem to be differences) Try it out. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Argh!! Need help opening NeXT cube! Message-ID: <CnGKy8.6DM@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2n74np$rp0@elaine.teleport.com> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:42:08 GMT In article <2n74np$rp0@elaine.teleport.com> skeezics@teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) writes: # #I need to open up my Mom's cube. She didn't get the NeXT Tool with her #original shipment (a BL fire sale '030, way back when) and I've tried #every damned Allen wrench on the block. Yes, I asked the neighbors and #nobody has the right size. # #NOW I understand what they meant by "proprietary hardware." :-) # #Someone please email me the correct size, and I'll toddle off to the #hardware store... # #Thanks! # #-- Chris It's a 3mm. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Help! My NeXTstation is dead. Message-ID: <CnGL1I.6ED@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2n9cn8$gee@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 03:44:06 GMT In article <2n9cn8$gee@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> baer@psssun.pss.msu.edu (Brian Baer) writes: # #Help! # #I went to use my NeXTstation (Mono, 25Mhz, '040) this morning and it was dead. #When I tried to turn it back on the fan came on for 1-2 seconds than the #computer turned itself back off. My guess is that it is the power supply that #is the problem, but wondering if it could be the keyboard system for turning #on/off the power. Do not have a second machine to swap keyboards with to #test this. Has any one seen this problem? Any suggestion for a fix? Have you tried opeing up the machine and pulling the battery? Sometimes the CMOS ram (battery backed static ram) will get corrupted and give problems similar to this. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Exp16 & NS/I & SimpleNetSatrter Date: 30 Mar 94 16:36:30 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Mar30163630@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> I have an Intel EtherExp16 on an ALR Evolution V. I also loaded the undated driver got from NeXT. When I try to net the pc to a Sparc using NS/I 3.1 SimpleNetStarter, I alway run into the error: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCGIFFLAGS): no such interface I couldn't figure out what is wrong. Neither, the Next technical support. I hope someone on the net has a solution. Regards, ZiZi
From: johnc@idcube.idsoftware.com (John Carmack) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 100,000 free pixels for JAWS Date: 30 Mar 1994 19:03:13 -0600 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9403310049.AA25503@idcube.idsoftware.com> You can get 1152*900 resolution on a dell JAWS by changing a couple constants in a header file of the driver example and recompiling. I was poking into the driver to change the gamma correction to be closer to pc VGA, but I noticed the code had #ifs for 1152 resolution. Works great! Someone could write a proper driver version that has configure selectable options, but I just rebuilt it with hardcoded vaules... John Carmack Technical Director Id Software
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Monitor Size for NextStep? Date: 31 Mar 1994 01:07:42 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nd7ou$a3o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <2nak11$hn@inxs.concert.net> In article <2nak11$hn@inxs.concert.net> brady@rock.concert.net (Donald C Brady -- Comintel Inc) writes: > > I am setting up a hardware configuration to eventually run > NextStep for Intel. > > Should I get a 21" or a 17" monitor? I will be mainly doing > financial programming. I can afford the 21" if it is a significant > advantage. > With NeXTStep, a bigger monitor is always an advantage, but how significant it is depends on two factors: 1) How good is your eyesight? If you need glasses for reading, 17" is marginal for almost any kind of work and 21" is _a_lot_ better. 2) How good is your video card? Specifically, does it support 1280 by 1024 or higher resolution at high refresh rate (70 Hz non-interlaced or higher)? If yes, a 21" monitor would be a very good idea, _provided_ it is of high quality AND can sync to your video at its highest resolution/refresh_rate. With an ATI card (best video 1120 by 832 @ 68 Hz) a 21" is better than 17", but not _that_ much better, so the choice is really eyestrain vs wallet strain. If you spend several hours a day working on the computer and you can afford a _good_ 21" monitor, buy it. Otherwise, a good 17" is better than a mediocre 21". At 1024 by 768 or lower resolution, a 21" monitor has little advantage over a 17-incher, so if your video card does not support higher resolutions at adequate refresh rates, save your money. Or buy a better video card. ***************************************************************************** Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (NextMail OK) Assistant Professor of Physics, | #include <std_disclaimer.h> University of Texas at Austin. | #excuse bad_typing.
From: kaya@tiac.net (Kaya Bekiroglu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Opinions on Ikegami monitors? Date: 31 Mar 1994 01:51:10 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <2ndaaf$hrg@sundog.tiac.net> I have heard good things about Ikegami monitors on the net, and I saw them at Macworld Expo - their monitors looked very nice, but I cannot compare them to the Nanaos, which I haven't seen. A salesman told me that they use the same picture tube, but that "we like to think our electronics are better." Can anybody comment on the quality of these trinitron monitors and contrast them with the offerings of Nanao, SuperMac, and Radius? -- >|< kaya@max.tiac.net <|> Kaya Bekiroglu "Help, I'm trapped in a computer factory!"
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modems for SLIP? Date: 31 Mar 1994 02:07:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2ndb9q$8vv@galaxy.ucr.edu> Does SLIP tend to be particular about Modems under Nextstep/ Also, are there standard public domain SLIP programs available for both black and white hardware? Any info would be appreciated, jonathan nagler nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu; assistant professor [NextMail Okay] department of political science IP: 138.23.106.51 university of california Voice: (909) 787-7258 riverside, ca. 92521-0118 Fax : (909) 787-3933
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Clinton Wong) Subject: NeXT color printer Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Message-ID: <CnIHD8.E9L@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 04:19:56 GMT Organization: Purdue Data Network Could someone e-mail me some info about the NeXT color printer? I've heard that it is 360 dpi, but what bit-depth can it print? (8 bit?) Also, where can color toner be bought? Clinton Wong, wongcd2@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: Hard(disk)decision Message-ID: <1994Mar30.214508.2040@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <2n783k$h70@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 21:45:08 GMT In article <2n783k$h70@network.ucsd.edu> pgeiss@aeon.ucsd.edu (Peter Geissler) writes: > > Hi everybody > > I have to buy a gigabyte SCSI hard disk > for a 486 running nextstep. I am > thinking about either a > Micropolis 2210 or a Seagate ST 11200N disk. > Does anybody has expierience/problems > with this disks ? Or does anybody knows > which one is to prefer ? > I don't known about recent Seageate drives but the Seageate 400 Mb drive I had on my NeXT for 2 year is makink a strange noise now. Beside that I had many trouble with small Seagate drive on PCs. are the 1Gb ones more serious? That is the question.
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.misc Subject: Re: PhoneKit and ISDN Extender Date: 31 Mar 1994 01:38:58 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2nd9ji$n99@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Mar28.074520.11592@cubism> <CnHqx9.CqE@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: >Harry Vlahos (vlahos@cubism.portal.com) wrote: >: Whatever happened to the PhoneKit? After NeXT dropped it, >: I thought that it was going to be available through a >: third party. >: What happened to it? >Consumed by Pencom, perhaps never to be seen again.... >peter The company I work for had a PhoneKit project in progress, and the developer in charge made a lot of long-distance calls to NeXT and Pencom about the future of PhoneKit. The last I heard, our guy was basically told by Pencom that they had no intentions of ever releasing any version of PhoneKit on Intel, or presumably any other NS platform. I may inherit the project, and my boss would like to hear that his investment wasn't wasted, so I'd be more than happy for somebody out there to contradict this information, or to provide news that Pencom has passed PhoneKit on to somebody else that will market and support it. Royce Howland dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: 3rd Party CDs and black CD driver Message-ID: <1994Mar31.055506.14271@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 05:55:06 GMT I just wonder what CDs black CD driver can read. What are the standards? Thanks. -- Andrew C. Chang Graduate School of Business University of Chicago Chicago, IL 60615
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) Subject: NextStation Mono (non-turbo) won't power off Message-ID: <1994Mar30.145241.2577@drefla.mese.com> Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com Organization: Walking Dog Design Inc. Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 14:52:41 GMT We have a NeXTStation mono 25Mhz that won't power off. When we tell it to power down it usually tries and then powers right back up. The preferences panel for power doesn't show up (says N/A) since this is a non-turbo station. Anyone have a clue why this would be happening? It even happens sometimes when we power off from the rom monitor (bit sometimes it works from there). Matt -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Brandt | If the people will lead matt@drefla.mese.com | then the leaders will follow
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep with a 1600 x 1280 monitor -- questions Date: 31 Mar 1994 10:00:01 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ne6v1$ngc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2nd7ou$a3o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I have a NeXT colorstation (1120 by 832 @ 68 Hz, I believe) driving a ViewSonic 21" monitor which is capable of 1280 by 1024 @76 Hz or 1600 by 1280 @ 60 Hz. If I replace my colorstation with an Intel box, then: 1) Are there NextStep supported video cards which drive 1600 by 1280? 2) Will the limitation of a 60 Hz refresh rate be noticeable? I think the 68 Hz refresh rate I have now is fine, so I'm wondering if those 8 Hz are important. 3) What will the extra pixels do to the appearance of my screen? Are the icons in the dock a fixed number of pixels in size, and will they therefore appear smaller and take up less space? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I[7&-O;&]R=&)L.UQR960P7&=R965N,%QB;'5E M,#M]"EQP87)D7'1X,%QT>#$Q,C!<='@R,C0P7'1X,S,V,%QT>#0T.#!<='@U M-C`P7'1X-C<R,%QT>#<X-#!<='@X.38P7'1X,3`P.#!<='@Q,3(P,%QT>#$R M,S(P7'1X,3,T-#!<='@Q-#4V,%QT>#$U-C@P7'1X,38X,#!<='@Q-SDR,%QT M>#$Y,#0P7'1X,C`Q-C!<='@R,3(X,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF M8S%<8V8Q(%P*22!H879E(&$@3F585"!C;VQO<G-T871I;VX@*#$Q,C`@8GD@ M.#,R($`@-C@@2'HL($D@8F5L:65V92D@9')I=FEN9R!A(%9I97=3;VYI8R`R M,2(@;6]N:71O<B!W:&EC:"!I<R!C87!A8FQE(&]F(#$R.#`@8GD@,3`R-"!` M-S8@2'H@;W(@,38P,"!B>2`Q,C@P($`@-C`@2'HN("!)9B!)(')E<&QA8V4@ M;7D@8V]L;W)S=&%T:6]N('=I=&@@86X@26YT96P@8F]X+"!T:&5N.EP*7`HQ M*2!!<F4@=&AE<F4@3F5X=%-T97`@<W5P<&]R=&5D('9I9&5O(&-A<F1S('=H M:6-H(&1R:79E(#$V,#`@8GD@,3(X,#]<"EP*,BD@5VEL;"!T:&4@;&EM:71A M=&EO;B!O9B!A(#8P($AZ(')E9G)E<V@@<F%T92!B92!N;W1I8V5A8FQE/R`@ M22!T:&EN:R!T:&4@-C@@2'H@<F5F<F5S:"!R871E($D@:&%V92!N;W<@:7,@ M9FEN92P@<V\@22=M('=O;F1E<FEN9R!I9B!T:&]S92`X($AZ(&%R92!I;7!O M<G1A;G0N7`I<"C,I(%=H870@=VEL;"!T:&4@97AT<F$@<&EX96QS(&1O('1O M('1H92!A<'!E87)A;F-E(&]F(&UY('-C<F5E;C\@($%R92!T:&4@:6-O;G,@ M:6X@=&AE(&1O8VL@82!F:7AE9"!N=6UB97(@;V8@<&EX96QS(&EN('-I>F4L M(&%N9"!W:6QL('1H97D@=&AE<F5F;W)E(&%P<&5A<B!S;6%L;&5R(&%N9"!T M86ME('5P(&QE<W,@<W!A8V4_7`I<"BTM(%1O9&0@5&%K:V5N7`IT86MK96Y` 6;&5L86YD+G-T86YF;W)D+F5D=0I]"BTM `
From: mcli@riker.Read.TASC.COM (Maurice C. Ling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OD and non-NeXT, printer Date: 30 Mar 1994 15:58:07 GMT Organization: TASC Distribution: su Message-ID: <2nc7ifINNcka@jumbo.read.tasc.com> References: <2mlncb$g1b@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken (takken@raven.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : The MO drive in the NeXT 68030 cube I used to own (manufactured 1989) was : not even SCSI. It was completely incompatible with everything except a : NeXT cube. More recent cubes might possibly have had standard, compatible : MO drives, but I doubt it. Is there any way to connect the MO drive so that it would be useful? It seems like it's quite a waste to have it sitting around as a bookend or something. -- Maurice Ling NeXTmail: mcli@nextcube.read.tasc.com \/ School: mling@jade.tufts.edu >--< ====================== Work : mling@tasc.com /\ Optics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Problems writing to Mac diskettes Message-ID: <1994Mar30.045354.1695@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 04:53:54 GMT I have a PLI floppy drive for my cube. I'm running NS 3.2 for black hardware. I've found that when I copy large files to Mac floppy diskettes (large meaning perhaps 100K or larger) that I am unable to read the files on my Quadra at work (or on other macs). This happens on floppies formatted on either system. Does anyone else have this kinda problem? Should this actually be working? Would it work better if I went back to the .filesystem from an earlier release or 3? Thanks for any thoughts you might have david john burrowes davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com
From: daniel@cassidy.EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Ian Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 17" MegaPixel Display (Question) Date: 31 Mar 1994 13:32:24 GMT Organization: Xerox Palo Alto Research Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nejd8$n9h@news.parc.xerox.com> Hi, Can anyone mail me the specifications for the MegaPixel display, I need to find out what other machines it can be driven from, like a PC would be nice. Thanks, --Ian
From: mgrice@iastate.edu (Matthew B Grice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is my white equipment cool enough to run NS? Date: 31 Mar 94 18:50:52 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <mgrice.765139852@eng1.iastate.edu> I've got a PC and have been strongly considering lately moving at least partly to NS. Some of my hardware could be considered exotic however, so I thouyt that I would check it out with you guys first, before I made the software investment. My system is as follows: The Micron 433 Winstation 486DX33 on a Micronics JX-30 VLB motherboard with integrated VL IDE. 24M RAM. 345, 540M IDE Drives. Diamond Viper VLB 2M (p9000) <-ouch. i heard drivers will be out soon. Colorado QIC drive. Gravis Ultrasound, Sound Blaster. 3Com Etherlink III. <- not good? Some kind of borrowed CD-Drive. IBM 4037/5E printer (4029) Where do I stand here? -- Matthew B Grice mgrice@iastate.edu
From: ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu (H. Paul Hammann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: SCSI Hard Drives for Black Cube : Recommendation wanted Date: 29 Mar 1994 01:55:02 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Distribution: World Message-ID: <2n81q4$igk@golf.ustores.missouri.edu> Keywords: HD, cube, SCSI Hello all, I'm in the market for a few of ~1 Gig SCSI HD's to chain onto the back of a cube. Main concerns are: Warranty, Ease of addition, reliability, and cost. If anybody has any recommendations, suggestions, horror stories, and/or personal experiences please let me know. Thanks. -- H. Paul Hammann ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Re: SPECmarks Message-ID: <CnJuuo.HM6@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA References: <2nfedo$ikc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 22:08:48 GMT Per NeXTWORLD April ( Not exactly useless as per some ) HP 712/60 58 SPEC92INT 79 SPEC92FP HP 712/60 84 SPEC92INT 79 SPEC92FP Boy, the SUNS look like a GREAT Deal!! By the way, does anyone agree with me on the notion that only about 1 out of 10 postings on comp.sys.next.advocacy contain anything usefull. Boy, I get tired of all the griping nonsensical poop on that group. Later days..... David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) Subject: Re: SPECmarks Message-ID: <1994Mar31.224015.14897@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2nfedo$ikc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 22:40:15 GMT In article <2nfedo$ikc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) writes: > > I'm interested in the SPECint92 and SPECfp92 numbers for the HP 712/80 > (80 MHz Gecko) vs. several others--in particular I'd like to see the > marks for the DEC Alpha, whatever Sun's top-o-line Sparc is, the Power > PC (the 801 that's in the PowerMac's), and the good ole' 33 MHz 68040 > and 486DX/2 66 MHz. If anyone has some or all of those, could you > please email them or post them? Thanks. > > > mark I just happen to have the HP propaganda sitting next to my NeXT. CPU Clock SPECint92 SPECfp92 HP7100LC 80 84 130 DEC21066 166 70 105 Pentium 66 67 62 MIPS4600 100 65 60 IBM PowerPC 66 62 72 SUN MicroSPARC 75 54 44 These numbers are from HP on Jan 18, 1993, so take them with a grain of salt. Things may have changed. Somewhere on internet, there exists a site that collects SPECmarks, but I can't remember where. -- Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." Friedrich von Schiller
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 31 Mar 1994 23:08:51 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2nfl63$cui@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: > In article <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu>, > The one plus point I can make about the monitor is that it works at 1600x1200, > something it is not certified for. Have you actually tried this? Doesn't this ruin the monitor? I am actually more curious if my 6FG can run the 1408*1280 resolution (or so) of the Myro card---it's just that I am too scared to try it out for fear that would be the end of my monitor. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SPECmarks Date: 31 Mar 1994 23:11:53 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <2nflbp$ecn@crcnis1.unl.edu> References: <CnJuGD.H8L@ucdavis.edu> Press release from earlier posting: : SUNFLASH! (Sun Introduces Two New Desktop Families) [deleted material] : : SUN REDEFINES DESKTOP PRICE/FUNCTIONALITY : WITH TWO NEW DESKTOP FAMILIES [deleted material] : SMCC is cutting the price of its entry-level SPARCclassic(TM) to $2,995, : making it the lowest-cost, fully configured color workstation at any ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : price. ^^^^^^ [deleted material] I guess this is what happens when hypesters allow their concentration to lapse! ;^) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pjm+@CS.CMU.EDU (Pedro J Moreno) Subject: SLIP on a NExt-Cube Message-ID: <CnJyqC.IuA.3@cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System) Organization: Carnegie Mellon University Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 23:32:34 GMT Guys A simple question. Can SLIP be run on a Next Cube?? my concern is about the need of hardware flow control in the serial line going to the modem, and since I always thought the Cubes do not support flow control this might be a problem.... Am I wrong?? thanks pedro
From: watkin@mic.ucla.edu (watkin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.animation,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which is better, Sony GDM-17SE1, IBM 17p, or NEC 5FGp? Date: 1 Apr 1994 00:16:09 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2nfp49$e06@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1994Mar29.165802.990@pcp.ca> Summary: Comparsion of Radius PrecisionColor/17 (Sony 17SE1) and NEC 5FGp displays. Keywords: comparison, Radius, Sony, NEC, PrecisionColor/17, 17SE1, 5FGp, display I recently installed an NEC 5FGp on a Centris 660AV and a Radius PrecisionColor/17 display on a Centris 650. I've only sampled one of each unit. For image quality alone (and for other reasons), I prefer the Radius PrecisionColor/17. I've been assured by Radius that their PrecisionColor/17 is identical to the Sony 17SE1 with a couple of exceptions: Radius uses an improved power supply (their statement); they have a better looking case design (my statement as well as theirs); they include custom DPI switching software and a cable plug for Centris and Quadra built-in video that allows you to change resolutions without rebooting (a fact). Here's my comparison of the NEC 5FGp and the Radius PrecisionColor/17" (Sony 17SE1). These are only my opinions from a single sample of each unit. I've only installed these monitors on other people's machines, I didn't get to work with them for very long: * The NEC resolution switching software is slow to come up and to use (interface design needs improvement). * There's a glitch on the screen when the NEC changes resolutions. Maybe it's Degaussing? * The Radius has digital controls (with memory) for "Brightness" and "Contrast". The NEC appears to only have manual knobs for "Brightness" and "Contrast". Both monitors have digital controls for other features. * The Radius has two faint wire lines across the screen (an unfortunate trademark of all Trinitron monitors). * The Radius appears to have a flatter screen. * The Radius appears crisper and I prefer its color and overall image quality. * The NEC's maximum horizontal viewing area seems to be about .5" narrower. Also, at least one resolution doesn't even stretch out to this smaller maximum viewing area. * In certain areas, the NEC has some sort of subtle "hatching" artifact even on solid colors. This might be from the mask or maybe it's an interaction with the mask, glass, and coating. * The Radius has a smaller advertized dot pitch -- ".25" or ".26" vs NEC's ".28". This seems to make the Radius monitor appear sharper. * The Radius seems to have more user controls for Geometery and Convergence setting. * The NEC seems to have a color balancing control. The Radius has a three-way color temperature setting. * The Radius software is faster to use (instantly pops up a menu under the pointer) and has convenient features. * The NEC has easier to use controls for setting screen size and centering simultaneously. * The NEC has a more impressive case design but it's larger (more bulky) than the Radius. * The NEC has a built-in AB switch and dual connectors for connecting two computers at the same time. * On our Radius monitor, someone noticed a slight distortion in a corner of the screen. Perhaps this can be tweaked out, maybe not. It's usually the case that this sort of distortion varies from unit to unit. James Watkin, UCLA Office of Academic Computing, Microcomputer Support Office
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: high res hurts monitors? IBM 17P res? (was Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony??) Date: 1 Apr 1994 00:29:59 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2nfpu7$fde@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2nfl63$cui@news.mic.ucla.edu> In article <2nfl63$cui@news.mic.ucla.edu>, >> In article <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu>, >> The one plus point I can make about the monitor is that it works at >1600x1200, > >Have you actually tried this? Doesn't this ruin the monitor? > >I am actually more curious if my 6FG can run the 1408*1280 resolution (or >so) of the Myro card---it's just that I am too scared to try it out for >fear that would be the end of my monitor. Hmm. I didn't realize that it might hurt. Is this really so? I have a new IBM 17P, which the IBM sales rep told me could do 1360x1024, while the Byte magazine review lists it as doing 1600x1024. I also have a Miro card on the way and would like to be able to do 1400x1024. Did the Byte people do something that could have hurt their monitor? -Karl
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SPECmarks Date: 31 Mar 1994 21:13:28 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2nfedo$ikc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I'm interested in the SPECint92 and SPECfp92 numbers for the HP 712/80 (80 MHz Gecko) vs. several others--in particular I'd like to see the marks for the DEC Alpha, whatever Sun's top-o-line Sparc is, the Power PC (the 801 that's in the PowerMac's), and the good ole' 33 MHz 68040 and 486DX/2 66 MHz. If anyone has some or all of those, could you please email them or post them? Thanks. Oh, I also recall seeing some comment about HP deciding to make the SPECfp92 performance on the Gecko's as good as it can be--what were those numbers? Thanks again. mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.dcom.modems From: tadam@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (Trent B Adam) Subject: Cheap modems Message-ID: <1994Apr01.023812.177725@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Summary: What's with the $99.99 GVC modem? Keywords: GVC Sender: tadam@cybal.calpoly.edu Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo References: <2ncan4$qdk@panix.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 1994 02:38:12 GMT Hey guys, I realize that you've been talking about top dollar modems, but... Have you seen the advertisement on Prodigy? Their offering a GVC 14.4 internal fax/modem for $99.99. Seems good to me, is there something that someone else knows, that I need to know? Is GVC bad news? Thanks in advance, Trent Adam Cal Poly, SLO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.dcom.modems From: tadam@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (Trent B Adam) Subject: 1800 number Message-ID: <1994Apr01.024028.178981@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Summary: Is there a 14.4+ 1-800 number? Keywords: 1-800 Sender: tadam@cymbal.calpoly.edu Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo References: <2ncan4$qdk@panix.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 1994 02:40:28 GMT Is there a 1-800 number that I could test a 14.4 v.42bis modem out on? I don't really care WHAT I call as long as it will take a modem through the paces... thanks tadam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: uh102@freenet.Victoria.BC.CA (Jereld Hannis) Subject: Re: New Intel based Computer for NeXTStep Message-ID: <CnJrJA.6r8@suncad.camosun.bc.ca> Sender: news@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Camosun College, Victoria, B.C. Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 20:57:09 GMT In a previous article, raney@oyster.smcm.edu (Curt Raney) asks: >I heard a rumor that Canon is planning to bring out a new computer this >summer with an architecture designed specifically for NeXTStep Intel In PC Week, March 14, 1994, pg. 25, there is an article titled: "Canon to build high-end NextStation PC" The article states Canon will introduce two products, a DX4 based machine that will ship in late May, and a dual Pentium machine for Q3 this year. Also briefly mentioned is that the systems will "include hardware modifications to accelerate GUI response time and processing power". At the end of the piece is a phone # to reach Canon Computer Systems Inc. - 1(800)848-4123 Jer -- "I used to jog, but the ice kept jumping out of my glass." - David Lee Roth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Re: SPECmarks Message-ID: <CnJuGD.H8L@ucdavis.edu> Sender: Me The one and only unique DAVID BRADFORD dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA References: <2nfedo$ikc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 22:00:13 GMT What follows is the NEW SUN LINE and HP LINE (PER YOUR REQUEST) - SPECMARKS SUNFLASH! (Sun Introduces Two New Desktop Families) -+This message has been approved for distribution to this alias+- The following announcement was made earlier today, March 29, 1994, by SMCC. If you have product questions regarding the SS20, please contact Chris Scheufele at (415) 336-1299. For questions regarding the SS5, please contact Warren Mootrey at (508) 442-0510. Please direct any press inquiries to Robert Manetta of SMCC Public Relations at (415) 336-0979. SUN REDEFINES DESKTOP PRICE/FUNCTIONALITY WITH TWO NEW DESKTOP FAMILIES Fully Equipped, Low-Cost Systems Aimed at Networked Enterprises MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. -- March 29, 1994 -- Two powerful SPARCstation(TM) desktop families introduced today by Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation (SMCC) shatter the workstation price model. These networked desktops include a mid-range workstation costing just $3,995 and a high-end workstation starting at only $12,195. In addition, SMCC is cutting the price of its entry-level SPARCclassic(TM) to $2,995, making it the lowest-cost, fully configured color workstation at any price. In addition to this aggressive pricing, SMCC has designed new levels of functionality into these workstations. The new mid-range SPARCstation 5 and high-end SPARCstation 20 computers, sharing a new pizza box chassis design, deliver unprecedented expandability and upgradability. These machines bring Sun(R) desktops to new performance levels and demonstrate the company's long-term commitment to turning high-end options into standard features. SPARCstation 5: Best Value For Enterprise Desktops The new SPARCstation 5 system is the industry's best value among networked enterprise desktops. The workstation delivers powerful CPU performance, unmatched expandability, robust multimedia capabilities (video, audio, graphics and imaging), and can run a broad range of user applications -- including those available on the Solaris(R) operating environment, as well as Macintosh(R), DOS and leading Microsoft(R) Windows programs -- all for an entry price of $3,995. With its new 70MHz and 85MHz microSPARC II processors -- featuring a quadrupled cache, doubled floating point performance and enhanced memory management -- the SPARCstation 5 has twice the application performance of its predecessor, the Sun SPARCstation LX, at a lower price. The new workstation is rated at 64 SPECint92/54.6 SPECfp92 for the 85 MHz model and 57 SPECint92/47 SPECfp92 for the 70 MHz model. The SPARCstation 5 uses a new "pizza box" package, which gives users unmatched expandability: up to 2 gigabytes of internal storage, up to 40 gigabytes of external storage, and up to 256 megabytes of main memory. The workstation's packaging also gives users unprecedented functionality at this price with three SBus expansion slots, an optional internal slim-line CD-ROM drive, optional internal 3.5-inch floppy drive and high-quality audio. In addition, because the pizza box is identical to that used in the new SPARCstation 20, users can upgrade to the higher-performance workstation with a simple and inexpensive motherboard swap. The workstation can also accommodate SMCC's 2-D and 3-D graphics accelerators -- TurboGX(TM), TurboGXplus(TM) and the SPARCstation ZX card. "The SPARCstation 5 is the first universal desktop," said Jay Puri, vice president of product marketing at SMCC. "It's a powerful, expandable and elegantly designed UNIX(R) workstation that runs a wide range of diverse applications -- including Windows and Solaris -- and costs less than the majority of equally configured networked personal computers. It raises the bar for entry-level networked desktops in terms of feature set at an attractive price." The $3,995 model SPARCstation 5 desktop (based on a 70 MHz microSPARC II CPU) includes a 15-inch color monitor, 535-megabyte hard disk and 16 megabytes of memory. SPARCstation 5 configurations based on the 85 MHz microSPARC II start at $11,395 and include a 20-inch color monitor, 32 megabytes of memory, 1 gigabyte of storage and the TurboGX graphics accelerator. All prices are U.S. only. SPARCstation 20: The Leading MP Desktop The SPARCstation 20 family is SMCC's new flagship workstation line, with an unmatched combination of high-end workstation performance and functionality at a remarkably low price. Available in multiprocessor and uniprocessor versions, the SPARCstation 20 boasts up to a 75 percent price/performance improvement over the SPARCstation 10, the world's best-selling workstation and leading multiprocessor desktop. Entry level configurations of the SPARCstation 20 systems achieve better performance from a 25 percent faster motherboard, faster ASICs and from 50MHz SuperSPARC(TM) processors. Higher-performance versions of the workstations get a performance boost from the faster motherboard and ASICS and from 60MHz chips. This is the first Sun system to use 60MHz SuperSPARC processors in some of its models. The SPARCstation 20 is also the first workstation line in the industry to include -- as a standard feature -- the full complement of graphics computing capabilities: 24-bit true color; unmatched desktop image processing performance (panning, zooming, convolutions, etc.); 3-D, Gouraud-shaded, Z-buffered graphics; fast 2-D graphics; and accelerated video playback. "We've taken the best parts of our SPARCstation SX visual computing technology, added even better 2-D and 3-D performance, and included it all with the SPARCstation 20 at no extra cost," said Puri. "We are leading the way in making high-performance visual computing capabilities standard." For users needing more specialized graphics power, SPARCstation 20 systems can be combined with the full range of graphics accelerator options from SMCC, giving users the fastest 2-D workstation in its class (when combined with the TurboGXplus accelerator), the fastest 3-D workstation for under $25,000 (with the SPARCstation ZX accelerator) and fastest 3-D graphics workstation at any price (with Freedom Series accelerators from Evans & Sutherland). The functionality and performance of the SPARCstation 20 were achieved without sacrificing the modularity and expandability of the SPARCstation 10. Users can add faster -- and up to four -- CPUs, increase the memory to 512 megabytes, increase the internal storage to 2 gigabytes or add up to four SBus peripheral cards. And through the use of multiple processors on the SPARCstation 20, SMCC still possesses the fastest workstations in the industry, based on SPECrate benchmarks. The four-processor SPARCstation 20 model 514 offers performance of 6034 SPECrate_int92 and 6752 SPECrate_fp92. The SPARCstation 20 is available in six versions -- the single-processor model 50 (50MHz, no external cache), the single-processor models 51 and 61 (50MHz and 60MHz, respectively, and 1 megabyte of external cache per processor), the dual-processor model 502 (50MHz, no external cache), the dual-processor model 612 (60MHz with two megabytes of external cache), and the four-processor model 514 (50MHz with four megabytes of external cache). Pricing begins at $12,195 for the model 50 with performance of 69 SPECint92 and 78 SPECfp92. The model 61 system delivers 89 SPECint92 and 103 SPECfp92 at a price of $16,195. The entry level multiprocessing system is the model 502, costing $14,195 and delivering performance of 2833 SPECrate_int92 and 2995 SPECrate_fp92. New Workgroup SPARCservers In addition to its new workstations, SMCC introduced the SPARCserver(TM) 5 and SPARCserver 20 systems. The SPARCserver 5 has an entry price of $8,995 for a configuration that includes 32 megabytes of memory and 1 gigabyte of storage. The SPARCserver 20 has an entry price of $12,995 for a configuration that includes 32 megabytes of memory, 1 gigabyte of storage and a CD-ROM drive. These are powerful servers that can be used to increase a workgroup's file sharing throughput, service demanding applications (such as database) or connect a PC LAN or workgroup to the rest of the enterprise. The SPARCserver 5 and SPARCserver 20 complement SMCC's very successful mid-range UNIX servers, the SPARCserver 1000, and the SPARCcenter(TM) 2000 data center server, as well as the lowest-priced UNIX server in the industry, the SPARCclassic server. "We offer the best line-up of scalable, binary compatible UNIX servers in the industry. Our SPARCservers are ready to meet the needs of the entire enterprise," said Carl Stolle, manager of server product marketing at SMCC. SPARCclassic(TM) Price Reduction SMCC also announced that it is reducing the price of its entry-level SPARCclassic(TM) desktop to $2,995, making it the first fully configured color workstation to break the $3,000 barrier. SMCC has long led the industry by introducing breakthrough pricing without sacrificing functionality or stripping configurations. It was the first vendor to break the $4,000 barrier for a fully configured color workstation with the introduction of the SPARCclassic in 1992 -- a price point that remained unmatched by competitors until two months ago. The new $2,995 price for the SPARCclassic includes 16 megabytes of memory, a 15-inch color monitor and 207 megabytes of storage. Multimedia Workstations Multimedia versions of the new workstations are also available. The SPARCstation 20M, with the 50MHz SuperSPARC CPU, the SunVideo(TM) capture/compression card, video camera, and accelerated video playback with the SX technology, costs $14,590. The SPARCclassic M, equipped with a SunVideo capture/compression card and video camera, is now priced at $4,795 (quantity 12) making it the lowest-priced, fully configured multimedia workstation in the industry. In addition, any SPARCstation system can become a multimedia desktop with the addition of the SunVideo capture/compression card and video camera, together costing less than $1,895. Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation (SMCC), the world's top supplier of open network computing solutions, is an operating company of Sun Microsystems, Inc. Built on Sun's legacy of "The Network is the Computer(TM)," SMCC's SPARC(R)/Solaris(R) workstation and server family leads the UNIX market. The company has its headquarters in Mountain View, Calif. # # # Sun, the Sun logo, Sun Microsystems, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation, SunVideo, TurboGX, TurboGXplus, The Network Is The Computer and Solaris are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. All SPARC trademarks, including SuperSPARC and the SCD/Compliant Logo, are trademarks or registered trademarks of SPARC International, Inc. SPARCstation, microSPARC and SPARCserver are licensed exclusively to Sun Microsystems, Inc. Products bearing SPARC trademarks are based upon an architecture develope by Sun Microsystems, Inc. UNIX is a registered trademark of UNIX Systems Laboratories, Inc. a wholly owned subsidiary of Novell, Inc. All other product or service names mentioned herein are trademarks or service marks of their respective owners. ----- End Included Message -----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: SEAGATE ST43400N SCSI disk Message-ID: <1994Mar29.165021.3565@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Keywords: disk SCSI SEAGATE Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Distribution: unlimited Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 16:50:21 GMT I'm trying to connect a SEAGATE ST43400N SCSI disk to a motorola NeXT running NS 3.0. The disk is close to 3 GIG (i.e., bigger than 2.1 gig). Is there any way to get this to work with NextStep? I tried the "disk" command to initialize the disk and it keeps coming back with the message: boot block extends beyond front porch I was able to format the drive with "disk", and, at boot time, the ROM correctly identifies the disk and tells me that it has 2782 MB of space, which is also correct. Serge Goldstein NeXT SysAdmin Princeton University CIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Monitor Size for NextStep? Message-ID: <CnIFtu.HH@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2nak11$hn@inxs.concert.net> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 03:46:41 GMT In article <2nak11$hn@inxs.concert.net> brady@rock.concert.net (Donald C Brady -- Comintel Inc) writes: # # I am setting up a hardware configuration to eventually run #NextStep for Intel. # # Should I get a 21" or a 17" monitor? I will be mainly doing #financial programming. I can afford the 21" if it is a significant #advantage. The only reason for a 21" is if you have a card and driver that does 1280x1024 or greater. If not I'd say get 17" unless you like stuff bigger. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) Subject: Quantum Prodrive1800S (1,8 Go) Message-ID: <1994Apr1.134548.6575@wicket.fdn.org> Sender: news@wicket.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Paris -France Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 13:45:48 GMT Well, Another problem with a hardware under NeXTSTEP 3.2 (black hardware). We ve the message : sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 1 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 2 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 3 sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 4 when we try to initialize it !!! Help us please. FReD -- Frederic Pralong Paris France NeXT mail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: Re: SEAGATE ST43400N SCSI disk Message-ID: <1994Mar30.193007.985@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994Mar29.165021.3565@Princeton.EDU> Distribution: unlimited Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 19:30:07 GMT In article <1994Mar29.165021.3565@Princeton.EDU> serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes: > > > I'm trying to connect a SEAGATE ST43400N SCSI disk to a motorola NeXT running > NS 3.0. The disk is close to 3 GIG (i.e., bigger than 2.1 gig). Is there any > way to get this to work with NextStep? I tried the "disk" command to > initialize the disk and it keeps coming back with the message: > boot block extends beyond front porch > I was able to format the drive with "disk", and, at boot time, the ROM > correctly identifies the disk and tells me that it has 2782 MB of space, which > is also correct. > > Serge Goldstein > NeXT SysAdmin > Princeton University CIT Please ignore this post. Nextasnwers has a very detailed description of how to use and format this drive. Mea culpa. Next time, I'll look before I post; my apologies for having wasted the bandwith. Serge J. Goldstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bud@slip4.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields) Subject: Re: Quantum Prodrive1800S (1,8 Go) Message-ID: <1994Apr2.014615.18809@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News) Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA References: <1994Apr1.134548.6575@wicket.fdn.org> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 01:46:15 GMT In article <1994Apr1.134548.6575@wicket.fdn.org> fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) writes: > Well, > > Another problem with a hardware under NeXTSTEP 3.2 (black hardware). > We ve the message : > > sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 1 > sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 2 > sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 3 > sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 4 > > when we try to initialize it !!! > > Help us please. > > FReD > > -- > Frederic Pralong Paris France > NeXT mail I'm having the same problem with my PD1800S, and, unfortunately, even the technical manual for the drive has been no help. Apparently, the drive must be set to run in asynchronous mode, but the manual(I'm talking about the technical manual, which is 100 or so pages, not the pamphlet that comes with the drive) doesn't explain how to do this. I'm still trying to get Quantum tech support to help me get this working. Any input would be most welcome. Jeff Fields University of Iowa
From: mek@acs.bu.edu (Mark E. Kern) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Getting an 030 cube running Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 4 Apr 1994 17:31:09 GMT Organization: Spurious Productions Message-ID: <mek-040494132817@ppp-7-20.bu.edu> I just purchased on 030 cube and have a few questions. The cube is the standard 030/OD/40meg swap and comes with an external floppy drive (black). It only has 8 megs of RAM, but I have an extra 8meg 72pin SIMM lying around from my Mac Centris. What OS should I install? Is it worth it to try and load 3.x? If so, do they sell 3.x on optical disk? Also, I have a 100 meg SCSI drive I'm not using. Would I get any speed improvement if I installed it as a substitute for the 40 meg swap drive? What if I just installed it as an extra drive and ran programs from it... Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- = pdcmarkus@aol.com = mek@acs.bu = simms@phantom.com = Looking for old Pixar hardware and U.S. Acorn BBS machines
From: emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer Problems Date: 4 Apr 1994 19:13:38 GMT Organization: UF Department of Statistics Distribution: world Message-ID: <2npot2INNcuo@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Keywords: Next Printer, Gear We are having problems with the next printer (400 dpi laser printer). One of the gears , which helps in pushing the paper into the output tray ( The gear which is connected to the metallic roller ) is having couple of bad teeth. This makes the paper to remain inside the printer (approximately an inch inside) after the print is complete. This ends up in paper jam message. If we manually pull the paper out, we can print without the paper jam message. Is there a place where we can get the printer fixed? Do anyone know where we can get the printer components? We are ready to strike a deal with the persons interested in selling their nextprinters (if there is someone out there). Please help. Thanks, -- Egbert Maben
From: sbonsib486@pyro (Steve Bonsib) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fax modem drivers. What is available? Date: 4 Apr 1994 20:08:36 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2nps45$i5e@transfer.stratus.com> Keywords: fax Hello all, What fax modems (preferably internal card for PC's) have drivers available. I know there is an external one (Zyxel?) but I would really like to buy the new Zoom V.Fast board I saw for $300. SLIP would really fly at 28.8 (115KB Compressed!) --Steve -- Steve Bonsib sbonsib@cac.stratus.com Stratus Computer Marlboro MA
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Auto power on cube boards Date: 4 Apr 1994 21:04:23 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2npvcn$d0e@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <2no0o7$5jt@darkstar.isi.edu> In article <2no0o7$5jt@darkstar.isi.edu> carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: > Some non-turbo slabs most definitely do not offer the auto power up options. > The original design (I'm typing on one now) did not support the auto-power > stuff; somewhere along the line the board and roms were updated. > Were there any versions of non-turbo cube boards which supported auto power on? Whenever I get around to upgrading my home machine (now an '030) I'd like to be able to do this but keep optical drive support. -- David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: cudmore@doriot.lkg.dec.com (Sean Cudmore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to configure disk with DOS partition? Date: 4 Apr 1994 21:55:11 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Sender: cudmore@mccsrv.mcc.dec.com (Sean Cudmore) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nq2bv$qeb@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> I'm posting this for a friend, please reply directly to him (address at bottom). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Hard drive question: I have Nextstep installed on 750megs of my 1gig hard drive (SCSI). I left a 250 meg partition to be used by DOS. When I boot up as DOS or Windows, the drive can be accessed but an invalid format error appears. How do I let DOS know about the 250meg partition and how do I format that portion of the disk for DOS? Thanks for any help dwaldron@rrddts.donnelley.com
From: judson@crl.com (Michael Judson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Price of NeXT Slab? Date: 4 Apr 1994 15:28:17 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <2nq4a1$19c@crl.crl.com> Somebody is interested in selling me a NeXT Slab with 20 Mb RAM and a 1/2 Gb Eclipse Hard Disk. Including the monitor and keyboard, what would be a fare price for this hardware? Thanks in advance for any pointers.
From: d91-elu@dront.nada.kth.se (Erik Lundström) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic GD542x 8/16 bit? anyone? Date: 4 Apr 1994 23:50:28 GMT Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nq944$kko@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Im a proud(?) owner of a Cirrus Logic based graphics card (VL-Bus) and Im running 3.1 NeXTSTEP fIP. I was wondering if there is anybody out there who have made a better driver for this card than the one NeXT wants us poor souls to use... I wish for one that makes 8-bit grayscale or even 16-bit color.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: long PCI cards (eg Miro32s video) & GW/Intel PCI mother board Date: 5 Apr 1994 00:52:14 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2nqcnu$lpa@Times.Stanford.EDU> The Intel PCI/ISA mother board shipped with current Gateway Pentiums seems to have been designed for use with "short" PCI cards, as the 3 PCI slots seem to be on a line with the Pentium processor. This has me worried about my new Miro Crystal 32S PCI video card which I just installed and which is quite long (I think the length is probably due to the 4MB of VRAM). In the bottom PCI slot, the end of the card is very very close to the heat sink above the CPU. In either of the other 2 PCI slots, the end of the card would literally sit between two of the metal slabs of the heat sink. The only thing on the end of the card seems to be the VRAM. Is this bad? Is the VRAM going to function okay close to a lot of heat? I'm especially curious how the other people out there who have put this card into this motherboard have done it. Tell me of your successes. Approx. schematic: ====ISA====== ========= ============= ========= ============= ========= Pentium w/ ============= ========= heat sink above =========== F ----PCI------ =========== A ------------- =========== N ------------- . . . . . . my video card . . . . . . . . ===PCI/ISA=== ========= -Karl
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EATA timeout report #2 Date: 4 Apr 1994 21:21:44 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2npsso$9p@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit EATA timeout report #2 ====================== Description of the problem: --------------------------- The DPT EISA controllers 2022/9x and 2012/9x cause disastrous crahes under NeXTSTEP Intel 3.x. These crashes are initiated by an "EATA timeout" error message in /usr/adm/messages, and a few seconds later any disk access on the SCSI bus is blocked. If this happens when file system relevant information is written to disk, the resulting damage to the filesystem is often so big that a complete restore from tape is the only way left. Equivalent crashes were reported by: ------------------------------------ Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> martin@cube.han.de (Martin Ortlepp) Rainer Staringer <rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at> John B. Hampshire II <hamps@richibucto.jpl.nasa.gov> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani) Varun Mitroo <mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Milo Velimirovic <milov@fingers.acs.uwlax.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) "Thomas J. Herbert" <THERBERT@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Johann Adalbert Stoeger <hans@tms-gmbh.de> Markus Wenzel <mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org> New information since report #1: -------------------------------- Martin Ortlepp and I tested new BIOS and firmware revisions from DPT. We got SmartROM version 002-D and BIOS version 005E. Martin had one EATA timeout after about one week of testing which could be recovered. I set all EISA parameters according to NA document #1457, cache to write-through and transfer rate to 10 MB/s. The first EATA timeout occurred three days later. Then I reduced transfer rate to 5 MB/s and hoped once more for the best. The next EATA timeout occurred four days later... Fortunately, both timeouts didn't do any damage to my filesystem, mainly because I pressed AltGr-Num quickly enough. Both timeouts happened immediately after login. A sysadmin from the University of Berlin told me that´he administrates about 20 NS/I workstations, and also has DPT hassles. But he said it depends on the machine in which he plugs the same DPT controller. Some work, some don't. Conclusions from all this: -------------------------- 1. One year after NeXTSTEP/Intel 3.1 PR1 there is only _ONE_ EISA controller supported by NeXT as an EISA controller. All others (Adaptec, BusLogic) only work in 1542 compatibility mode. 2. This one and only EISA combination 2012/2022/2122 and NS/I DPT driver does not work reliably. It must be considered even dangerous to run a NS/I server machine with this combination. Severe data loss is possible. 3. A NeXT representative from NeXT Europe told me at CeBit expo that they also had problems with DPT controllers at NeXT Corp. Their consequence was to use Adaptecs for the machines presented at the expo. 4. DPT was very helpful and responsive, but they just don't know what the reason is. I think they were not able to reproduce the error situation. 5. I have not heard anything from NeXT if someone is busily working on it. 6. PC hardware is bullshit. 7. I'm sick of being a beta tester for device drivers approved in the hardware combatability guide!!! I lost money, data, confidence and patience. Regards, Markus. -- .sig got a SIGKILL signal.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Subject: Which backup media to buy ? Message-ID: <CnqpCz.9B@galileo.pr.net.ch> Keywords: backup Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:53:23 GMT Hello ! We are 4-5 users looking for a backup media to buy all together. Whe hare 1 NeXTstation user and 3-4 Mac users. Whe foresee to let rotate the driver each month so that every one can do the backup. Now I have to propose a solution that will work with our hardware and will be easy to install and use. Actually I know two solutions: 1- DAT driver 2- Optical Disk driver Which do you think is the best solution? Have you any experience with a specific driver? What have I to take care (SCSI, speed, cables, software,...) I will appreciate any info and suggenstion. Thank you for your attention! Stefano -- Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064 NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Date: 5 Apr 1994 04:33:56 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2nqpnk$d4r@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2n72su$2uc@galaxy.ucr.edu> <2n7jk0$s5j@news.acns.nwu.edu> <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Varun Mitroo <mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: >I'd like to make a comment on NEC monitors. I was a disbeliever until I had >the chance to evaluate a NEC 5FGe personally on my NEXTSTEP/Intel system for >a week. The picture was absolutely gorgeous, albeit only at 1024x768. > >I was so impressed that I bought a NEC 6FGp. I've had it for two days, and >so far, I'm EXTREMELY disappointed. The picture is very fuzzy, the bottom- >left corner of the screen hikes up, 1" of the left edge of the screen is out >of focus, and switching between programs in DOS shifts the image by a couple >of inches, requiring constant adjustment! These problems were very noticable >when using the included SVGA cable. I have also tried connecting through an >RGB BNC cable, and the picture was much improved, but still had some >distortion. NEC will definitely be hearing from me very soon about a >replacement! > >The one plus point I can make about the monitor is that it works at 1600x1200, >something it is not certified for. The screen does have much less glare, but >definitely at a price - the 5FGe had a much brighter display. > As a followup to my own posting, I'd like to say that I called NEC and they were _extremely_ friendly about fixing my problems. NEC offered to ship me out a replacement monitor immediately free of charge. I spoke with them on Thursday afternoon and was very surprised to have a UPS red delivery the next morning of another brand new NEC 6FGp! I don't know, I think I could have struggled through the weekend with a fuzzy picture! The new monitor is far better: sharp, bright, and pretty much square. The picture is truly outstanding, about the best I've seen on a monitor. >As far as pricing goes, the careful buyer can get one of these monitors at >Viewsonic prices, if he/she is resourceful enough... > I bought the monitor for $2035 + shipping from Macro International, Inc. (216) 399-1990.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mary@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mary Selman) Subject: 17-inch Phillips italian monitor troubles Message-ID: <Cnrsyo.8u2@news.Hawaii.Edu> Sender: news@news.Hawaii.Edu Organization: University of Hawaii Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 05:08:48 GMT I have a 17-inch color monitor hooked to a Nextstation Turbo Color. It is the original Phillips monitor (Made in Italy). Several weeks ago it died. A few days before the death the screen showed some ugly horizontal flickers, when the whole image narrowed to a very thin dimension, jagged. For a couple of months before this the screen had been somewhat unstable in the horizontal dimentions, although not with wild flickers. I sent it to a local repair shop, and they seem to be at a loss. I need help finding a source of spare parts for such moonitor. Actually, any help with above problem will be highly appreciated as we are quite isolated here in hawaii. Thanks, Fernando J. Selman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) Subject: Re: CD ROM player without caddy Message-ID: <1994Apr5.035552.800@drefla.mese.com> Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com Organization: Walking Dog Design Inc. References: <1994Apr4.104040.10338@rdbois.uucp> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 03:55:52 GMT In article <1994Apr4.104040.10338@rdbois.uucp> sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) writes: > > Does any of you know a CD ROM player which handles disk with a drawer like an > audio CD player and not with a caddy? > > The caddy is best if you intensively use 2 or 3 CD-ROM and can afford several > caddies to protect them, but if you use your player for both audio and data it > is a pain. (explain your wife you are going to replace the broken audio CD > player with a CD-ROM player, but she will have to handle the caddy every time > she wants to put a CD in it, what are the markrting people thinking of?) > The new Apple CD300 Plus is just what you are asking for. It is the CD player that comes in the new PowerMacs but I'm sure they will sell it seperately. I have one hooked up to my slab right now (with a PowerMac 8100 acting as a power supply... They don't call them PowerMac's for nothing :) and it works great. Matt -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Brandt | If the people will lead matt@drefla.mese.com | then the leaders will follow
From: dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 1522 Date: 5 Apr 1994 10:25:16 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <2nreac$7vf@mailer.fsu.edu> References: <shbzEAu00WBM413kk_@andrew.cmu.edu> Hello, Sorry, but that card won't work under Nexstep. It is a card that is harder to program and the performance is not as good as an Adaptec 1542. I would have liked to use one as well. Dru
From: dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic GD542x 8/16 bit? anyone? Date: 5 Apr 1994 10:27:54 GMT Organization: Florida State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nrefa$7vf@mailer.fsu.edu> References: <2nq944$kko@news.kth.se> Erik Lundstrvm (d91-elu@dront.nada.kth.se) wrote: : Im a proud(?) owner of a Cirrus Logic based graphics card (VL-Bus) : and Im running 3.1 NeXTSTEP fIP. : I was wondering if there is anybody out there who have made a better : driver for this card than the one NeXT wants us poor souls to use... : I wish for one that makes 8-bit grayscale or even 16-bit color. Your best bet is to first upgrade to 3.2. Then it is much easier to make/get a driver for that card. Dru
From: jlf@ryhope.alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISA based NS/FIP Date: 5 Apr 1994 13:42:23 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Alpharetta, GA, USA Message-ID: <2nrprv$seu@netnews.alf.dec.com> I have been having an ongoing battle with an ISA based system and trying to get NS/FIP running on it. Here is the saga (if anyone is interested ;-() The system is S3-928 based with multiple SCSI disks. Since it is an S3-928 with only 1MB (only 1MB? Jeez, I remember when that was a lot ;-) of VRAM it only can work in 640x480 mode, hardly acceptable. When I disable the on-board graphics and put a Cirrus Logic GD5428X based graphics adapter with 1MB of memory, it is recognized by the configure app, but I cannot get it to work in 1024x768x2 mode. All I get is either scrolling line in the center of the monitor or a rolling image on the screen. The only thing I can think of at this point is that since the software says it is going to drive the monitor at 60Hz, the monitor on the system is not capable of being driven at that speed. Is this a correct assumption? -- jeff finkelstein | "Imagination is more important than jlf@alf.dec.com | knowledge." digital equipment corporation | - Albert Einstein customer support center |
From: nanba@bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp (Ryosuke Namba) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 1522 Message-ID: <NANBA.94Apr5191138@fsund.bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp> Date: 5 Apr 94 10:11:38 GMT References: <EhbToD200WBME3Z1NY@andrew.cmu.edu> Sender: usenet@fsun7.bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp Organization: Dept. of Biophysical Engineering, Osaka Univ., JAPAN In-Reply-To: professor+@CMU.EDU's message of 2 Apr 94 23:17:35 GMT According to AXUM Computer Japan, there's no problem for installation of NEXTSTEP3.1J with 1522 or SoundBlaster16/SCSI-2. But,Hard drive on AXUM's NEXTSTEP machine is IDE drive,not SCSI... --- R.Guile.Namba nanba@bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp
From: scip3046@leonis.nus.sg (Cheng Jang Thye) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel TOKEN Express on Epson NX Series Date: 2 Apr 1994 04:42:52 GMT Organization: National University of Singapore Message-ID: <2nit4c$o66@nuscc.nus.sg> Hi all, I'm not sure whether this is the right group to post this question. But I hope any kind soul who has a solution to help me. I'm installing NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a Epson NX machine, with 36 MB and more than 1GB of disk space. I need to put this on a token-ring network, sharing the backbone with PCs accessing Netware servers. The problem I got was I could not get the TokenExpress driver to access the card. I have used the tokenset command provided with the card to set the IRQ to 9 and the DMA to 6. But on starting up, NeXTSTEP got the message: tr0: bad eerom checksum. Has anyone encountered a similar problem? Do you have a solution? If I were to boot from a DOS diskette, the diagnostics for the card indicated the card is working fine. So, I just wonder where is the error. Any help would be appreciated. You could email me at chengjt@sgpvm1.vnet.ibm.com Thank you.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SPECmarks Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 00:53:28 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ohbEVMO00iV8476Hkt@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CnJuuo.HM6@ucdavis.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 31-Mar-94 Re: SPECmarks by David Bradford@ucdmath.u > By the way, does anyone agree with me on the notion that > only about 1 out of 10 postings on comp.sys.next.advocacy > contain anything usefull. Boy, I get tired of all the > griping nonsensical poop on that group. Yes, that's about right. What do you think the group was created for? (Don't read it if you don't want to...that'll stop you from wasting time on it. :-) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: panic message - "fp not one" Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:39:51 GMT Message-ID: <CnsJEF.22w@Happy-Man.com> Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 One of our machines -- unfortunately, the mail and news server, so please reply by e-mail as we may have to shut down all news -- is dying with a panic intermittently, several times a day. Often (but not always, the panic message includes "fp not one". We removed the disk and swapped it into a different machine, hoping to get the problem off the mail and news server to a less critical host, but now the new machine (with the old name and old disk) is the one that is panicking irregularly. This seems to suggest a problem with the disk (a Toshiba MK438FB Rev 5027), but I have no notion of what or of whether it might be fixable other than by hardware replacement. Can anyone teach me something about this, please? Thanks! - Irving -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax extension 108 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 In SOLID VALUE, we show intelligent investors under-priced stocks Printed Info Free: Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: panic - list of messages received Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:48:26 GMT Message-ID: <CnsJsr.2Fp@Happy-Man.com> Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 As supplement to my earlier posting, here's a list of panic messages from /usr/adm/messages. I believe that there were other panics that did not get recorded there. Apr 2 06:42:40 beauty mach: panic: (Cpu 0) fp not one Apr 2 10:40:03 beauty mach: panic: (Cpu 0) fp not one Apr 2 10:40:03 beauty mach: Apr 2 10:40:03 beauty mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66 Apr 2 10:40:03 beauty mach: panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 21:57:41 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K Apr 3 00:16:02 beauty mach: panic: (Cpu 0) soclose: NOFDREF Apr 3 10:48:02 beauty mach: panic: (Cpu 0) fp not one Apr 3 10:48:02 beauty mach: Apr 3 10:48:02 beauty mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66 Apr 3 10:48:02 beauty mach: panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 21:57:41 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K Apr 4 05:16:02 beauty mach: panic: (Cpu 0) soclose: NOFDREF Apr 4 17:47:37 beauty mach: panic: (Cpu 0) fp not one Apr 4 17:47:37 beauty mach: Apr 4 17:47:37 beauty mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 2.0 v58 Apr 4 17:47:37 beauty mach: panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 21:57:41 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K Apr 4 20:40:08 beauty mach: panic: (Cpu 0) zfree Thanks for any help! - Irving -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax extension 108 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 In SOLID VALUE, we show intelligent investors under-priced stocks Printed Info Free: Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
From: eric@skatter.usask.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeout report #2 Date: 5 Apr 1994 15:46:51 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <2ns15b$iu3@tribune.usask.ca> References: <2npsso$9p@marsu.tynet.sub.org> > 2. This one and only EISA combination 2012/2022/2122 and NS/I DPT driver > does not work reliably. It must be considered even dangerous to run > a NS/I server machine with this combination. Severe data loss is > possible. > I'd like to point out that `your mileage may vary'. I have been running a DPT 2022 (with no cache) for 3 months now, heavy usage, and have had exactly 0 of these EATA Timeouts. -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory University of Saskatchewan Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Bell Atlantic Date: 5 Apr 1994 17:12:42 GMT Organization: UF Department of Statistics Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ns66aINN4fk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Keywords: Bell Atlantic, Phone number, Address We are having a bad NextPrinter to be fixed. We are thinking of sending it to Bell Atlantic for repair. Could someone please send me the telephone number/address of Bell Atlantic. I called the 1-800 directory assistance and they didn't have bell atlantic in the listing. Thanks, -- Egbert Maben
From: johnr@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (John Rihn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Speedstar Pro Help... Date: 5 Apr 1994 17:56:04 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ns8nk$2c8@toads.pgh.pa.us> I have I Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB, 1Meg. Ram.... Wondering what my options are with this card in terms of: 1. Compatibilty with NextStep v3.1 2. If compatible...is there an update needed 3. Resolutions supported Any and All help welcome!!! Please E-mail johnr@icarus.lis.pitt.edu Thanks much... ~John
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? -- pricing Date: 5 Apr 1994 16:58:46 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2ns5c6$nrj@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2nqpnk$d4r@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2nqpnk$d4r@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: > >As far as pricing goes, the careful buyer can get one of these monitors > >at Viewsonic prices, if he/she is resourceful enough... > > > I bought the monitor for $2035 + shipping from Macro International, Inc. > (216) 399-1990. I bought a Viewsonic 21" over a month ago for $1814, shipping included. Viewsonic's dealer price is lower than NEC's, so for the same amount of effort you put into shopping, you will get a lower price on a ViewSonic. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Service in BayArea? Message-ID: <jscogginCnspDB.LBt@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:48:46 GMT Hello, I think the ether-net transceiver on my Turbo-Color station just went out. Can somebody suggest a place to get it repaired in the Bay Area? Bell-Atlantic wants $800 for a replacement board. Ouch. :-( Thanks in advance, Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC 3Xi CD-ROM doesn't work? Message-ID: <1994Apr5.105751.15130@cc.usu.edu> Date: 5 Apr 94 10:57:51 MDT Organization: Utah State University I am/was trying to use a NEC Multispin 3Xi CD-ROM drive. The one that came with my Image P60 machine...but Packages refuse to install. I am trying to install the developer stuff... When I try to install a package, it does the check just fine, and starts installing the files. At a random point in installing the files it dies with a directory checksum error! I have even tried copying the package onto the hard drive and then installing...same problem. Well, today I hooked up my good-ol NeXT cd-rom drive and the packages installed just fine. What gives? What is there about the NEC 3Xi that Nextstep doesn't like? Can Nextstep not handle triple speed drives? Or am I the only one having this problem... Any insight would be appreciated. ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeout report #2 Date: 5 Apr 94 20:53:16 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.765579196@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <2npsso$9p@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2ns15b$iu3@tribune.usask.ca> eric@skatter.usask.ca writes: >I'd like to point out that `your mileage may vary'. I have been running >a DPT 2022 (with no cache) for 3 months now, heavy usage, and have had >exactly 0 of these EATA Timeouts. Just be happy about it. But I think more than 10 persons with similar problems are enough to point out that something has to be done against it. If your system were unstable, you'd know what I meant with 'unreliable'. BTW: What devices did you connect to your 2022? Fast-SCSI-II harddisk drives? My theory is that it only happens with new fast drives. Regards, Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) Subject: What about new 64 bit accelerators? Message-ID: <1994Apr5.210059.19797@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: Trinity University Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:00:59 GMT I have read that S3 has released their new 64 bit chipset and the Weitek P9100 is also out on a Diamond card. Will the old drivers work on these boards until new ones come out? eg buy the #9GXE64Pro (close enough) and use the #9 Level 11 & 12 drivers for a while? Will it work? Are they compatible? thanks, greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nelson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (David Paul Nelson) Subject: 17" mono monitor recabling question Message-ID: <nelson.765583790@puff.socsci.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:09:50 GMT Has anyone successfully used a mono megapixel display with computers other than Next? I am specifically wondering if I can use mine with a new powerpc macintosh. The power macs support a variety of sync rates -- is this the only relevant issue (aside from the actual cabling)? If anyone has any experience or ideas about this, please let me know! David nelson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't boot from CD-ROM to install Date: 2 Apr 1994 01:52:49 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <2njf9h$rv5@darkstar.isi.edu> I'm trying to install NS 3.2 on an old nextstation. I've got a new hard disk, so I want to do a clean install. Unfortunately, I'm unable to boot from my CD-ROM drive (it's a Pinnacle recordable CD, but can read standard CDs of course). If I try to boot from the installation floppy (after running UpgradePrep) bfd spins the cd-rom, but then doesn't find anything it likes and reports that no cd-rom is attached. If I boot from the internal hard disk, the monitor reports PINNACLE RCD-200 Rev IBBK as sd1 at sc0 target 2 lun 0 sd1: UNIT ATTENTION Disk Label: NEXTSTEP_3.2 Disk Capacity 300MB, Device Block 2048 bytes PINNACLE RCD-200 Rev IBBK as sd2 at sc0 targe Waiting for drive to come ready ................... PINNACLE RCD-200 Rev IBBK as sd3 at sc0 targe Waiting for drive to come ready ................... It then proceeds to try all scsi devices up to sd7, then boots. Once I log in the CD mounts fine. But, I tried running UpgradeApp and it just hung. The UNIT ATTENTION seems to be the primary error--can I get around this or is it time to scrounge up another CD-ROM drive? thanks for any help, --mike (carlton@isi.edu)
From: David.Halliday@ASU.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.powerpc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on PowerPC? Date: 01 Apr 94 12:35:45 Organization: College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, ASU Message-ID: <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> References: <NK4V.94Mar29212122@poe.acc.virginia.edu> Simply call NeXT at 1-800-TRY-NeXT or 1-800-848NeXT and ask (once you get to a human being). I did this a few weeks ago and was told that NEXTSTEP (I prefer NeXTstep or NeXTStep, but the all caps is official) is expected on the PowerPCs by the middle of this year (and on the PowerMacs soon thereafter---presumably the delay is to write drivers and/or provide for running Mac applications from within NEXTSTEP). David Halliday David.Halliday@ASU.Edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI new 64bit card Date: 3 Apr 1994 02:37:35 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2nla5f$mva@news.mic.ucla.edu> I called ATI, and they told me NeXT would be telling me whether their card will be supported under NS/Intel. NeXT tells me to read the hardware guide, which doesn't tell me. Is there any known time-table? Incidentally, does the Miro card have a 64bit RAMDAC? Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next and ADB devices Date: 6 Apr 1994 19:23:26 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <2nv27e$jlq@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I seem to have some recolection of seeing the mention in various posting about the use of ADB devices on NeXT computers. Is it the case that some NeXT computers are capable of useing ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) keyboards and mice? If so, which ones, and is it possible to make an 040 Cube use ADB devices? -- Christian Smith aka Blackplague PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns) Subject: Problem with ATI GUP 1280x1024 driver? Message-ID: <rburnsCnuqFy.KL@netcom.com> Keywords: driver ATI Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:06:53 GMT I've just installed NextStep for Intel on a 60Mhz Pentium system that has a ATI Graphics Ultrapro video card. This hardware works _perfectly_ under Windows NT. (I got the dual boot working with Windows NT). The only major problem that I have seems to be that the 1280x1024 driver 1) only works in grayscale 2) there is a 1 inch band from the left edge that is fuzzy and I have a bit of trouble selecting icons in this region. 3) I sometimes get some white noise around the active window I'm working in. NextStep seems fine. The ATI GUP driver seems to have some problems. (at Least when connected via VLB). Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: 2nd Internal HD on NeXTstation - Really ? - Clarification Message-ID: <1994Apr2.201746.7822@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2ncgbl$738@lace.Colorado.EDU> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 20:17:46 GMT In article <2ncgbl$738@lace.Colorado.EDU> spenton@irie.Colorado.EDU (Steve Penton) writes: > So, the obvious answer to my question is that the floppy drive is the > second device. But the floppy does not seem to use a SCSI connector and > the N&SA guide that came with my station says, > > "NeXT Computers allow the addition of a second int SCSI DISK", and > "You can easily add an additional int .. SCSI hard disk onto a NeXT > computer with a single internal SCSI hard disk" > (Network & Sys Ad, page 167-8, #N6031) The NeXT computer in this case was a code phrase used by NeXT to refer to the cube; which does indeed have room for an extra internal drive. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: monitors: Viewsonic vs Sony?? Message-ID: <CnLuBD.2Js@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2nfl63$cui@news.mic.ucla.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 23:52:24 GMT In article <2nfl63$cui@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: #In article <2naqub$72t@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> #mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: #> In article <BWH.94Mar28175706@beach.cis.ufl.edu>, #> The one plus point I can make about the monitor is that it works at #1600x1200, #> something it is not certified for. # #Have you actually tried this? Doesn't this ruin the monitor? # #I am actually more curious if my 6FG can run the 1408*1280 resolution (or #so) of the Myro card---it's just that I am too scared to try it out for #fear that would be the end of my monitor. I own a NEC monitor and have driven it past the specified scan freq. with no ill effects. New monitors are not likr the old PC monitors you could fry by jacking with the scan rate. On a multisync monitor the worst that would happen is that the monitor won't sync to the scan rate you send it. I don't suggest that you do it if you are scared and I don't take responsibility for what happens if you do it. In my experience with several NEC, Sony and Nanao monitors nothing has happened when I fed them the wrong scan rate for a shot period of time. Short eing long enough to know it won't sync. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP 550C Printer and black boxes Date: 3 Apr 1994 14:34:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2nn26u$esi@search01.news.aol.com> Has anyone successfully connected an HP 550C printer to a NeXtStation pizza box? I have the dots driver and multiple cables without any success. When sending an ascii file from the terminal window, a string with both garbage and some of the first line of the file print. Then the printer regurgitates all of the paper in the loader without anymore printing. Any hints gratefully accepted as alembic and I are at a dead end. Dr Rodney E. Willard Dept of Path & Lab Medicine Loma Linda University Medical Center
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on PowerPC? Date: 3 Apr 1994 02:21:32 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nl97c$fgf@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> David.Halliday@ASU.Edu writes: > Simply call NeXT at 1-800-TRY-NeXT or 1-800-848NeXT and ask > (once you get to a human being). > I did this a few weeks ago and was told that NEXTSTEP (I > prefer NeXTstep or NeXTStep, but the all caps is official) is > expected on the PowerPCs by the middle of this year (and on the > PowerMacs soon thereafter---presumably the delay is to write > drivers and/or provide for running Mac applications from within > NEXTSTEP). It might be that they're waiting for the PowerMacs which will have a PCI bus, so they won't need to do NuBus support. If PCI boards do come out that will fit in both Pentium and PowerMac machines, writing drivers for such cards would be more profitable (for NeXT or NeXTSTEP supporters) than writing drivers for NuBus cards. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.next,comp From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: MB/CPU Upgrade for Moto ? Message-ID: <CnpJpM.A08@ucdavis.edu> Summary: Asking if such an item is in the works Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:53:45 GMT Some time ago there was some action on the net pertaining to CPU/MB upgrades for NeXT Moto in the works. Has anybody heard anything about this as of lately? Please, no "advocacy backlash". I do not have time to provide counseling for childhood wounds. Thanks, David Bradford
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: NextStation Mono (non-turbo) won't power off Message-ID: <1994Apr3.214420.9346@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <1994Mar30.145241.2577@drefla.mese.com> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 21:44:20 GMT In article <1994Mar30.145241.2577@drefla.mese.com> matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) writes: > We have a NeXTStation mono 25Mhz that won't power off. When we tell it to power > down it usually tries and then powers right back up. The preferences panel for > power doesn't show up (says N/A) since this is a non-turbo station. Anyone have > a clue why this would be happening? It even happens sometimes when we power off > from the rom monitor (bit sometimes it works from there). > I had the same happening on my NON-turbo slab. The problem was that I had played with the "Turn computer on After power off/failure" option in the preference Power panel and forgot I did. I know you said it wasn't the case for you, but you added that this option said N/A for you, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE FOR A NON-TURBO SLAB (it works on mine at least). For this reason I suspect there is something wrong with you Preference configuration or someting messed in the system files it uses. Hope this helps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: NextStep with a 1600 x 1280 monitor -- questions Message-ID: <1994Apr3.215136.9408@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <2ne6v1$ngc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 21:51:36 GMT In article <2ne6v1$ngc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: >I have a NeXT colorstation (1120 by 832 @ 68 Hz, I believe) driving a > ViewSonic 21" monitor which is capable of 1280 by 1024 @76 Hz or 1600 by 1280 > @ 60 Hz. If I replace my colorstation with an Intel box, then: > 1) Are there NextStep supported video cards which drive 1600 by 1280? > 2) Will the limitation of a 60 Hz refresh rate be noticeable? I think the > 68 Hz refresh rate I have now is fine, so I'm wondering if those 8 Hz are > important. > 3) What will the extra pixels do to the appearance of my screen? Are the > icons in the dock a fixed number of pixels in size, and will they therefore > appear smaller and take up less space? Answers to 2) is yes. We have a board + screen at 63Hz at work : it is awfull.
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Date: 6 Apr 1994 19:29:39 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nv2j3$1bu@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <2nt9i0$1g1@network.ucsd.edu> In article <2nt9i0$1g1@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: |>I know that "officially" it can't be done. Can it, unofficially? |> |>-- |>Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy |>alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD |>NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 |>************************************************ |>Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions |>expressed by anyone at any time. I sure would like to know, too, as this is probably one thing that can make a NeXT fly, adding more memory.... Does anyone know??? best regards Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Work: Int + 45 43 43 43 03 Fax: Int + 45 43 43 59 70 _____________________________________________
From: alec@carie.dental.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MB/CPU Upgrade for Moto ? Date: 6 Apr 1994 21:39:25 GMT Organization: Marquette University - Dept. Math, Statistics, & Comp. Sci. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nva6d$4fg@spool.mu.edu> References: <CnpJpM.A08@ucdavis.edu> In article <CnpJpM.A08@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes: > > Some time ago there was some action on the net pertaining > to CPU/MB upgrades for NeXT Moto in the works. > > Has anybody heard anything about this as of lately? > > Please, no "advocacy backlash". I do not have time to provide > counseling for childhood wounds. > > > Thanks, David Bradford > I have heard that there will be 50/66 mHz 68060 upgrades for slabs and cubes priced between 1500-2000 $ available in early summer. These should more than double your performance.:) Sorry, no upgrades for 68030 machines. Alec -- Alec Ellsworth alec@carie.dental.mu.edu Marquette University ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu School of Dentistry 414-288-6500 (page) 604 N. 16th St. 414-288-3680 (voice,fax,or data) Milwaukee, WI 53233 "...dental floss for the brain...for prevention of Trooth decay..."
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 4 Apr 1994 00:51:30 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2no6ci$8bn@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. 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From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't boot from CD-ROM to install Date: 3 Apr 1994 20:03:05 -0700 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <2no019$5f5@darkstar.isi.edu> References: <2njf9h$rv5@darkstar.isi.edu> In article <2njf9h$rv5@darkstar.isi.edu> some knucklehead (Mike Carlton) writes: >I'm trying to install NS 3.2 on an old nextstation. I've got a new hard >disk, so I want to do a clean install. Unfortunately, I'm unable to >boot from my CD-ROM drive (it's a Pinnacle recordable CD, but can read >standard CDs of course). As Emily Litella would say: nevermind. I gave up on the Pinnacle, scrounged up an Apple CD-150 and installed no problem. Evidently there is something funky with the Pinnacle (its model RCD-202 if anyone cares). thanks for the help, --mike (carlton@isi.edu)
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStation Mono (non-turbo) won't power off Date: 3 Apr 1994 20:15:19 -0700 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Message-ID: <2no0o7$5jt@darkstar.isi.edu> References: <1994Mar30.145241.2577@drefla.mese.com> <1994Apr3.214420.9346@rdbois.uucp> In article <1994Apr3.214420.9346@rdbois.uucp> sr@rdbois.fdn.org writes: :In article <1994Mar30.145241.2577@drefla.mese.com> matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt :Brandt) writes: :> We have a NeXTStation mono 25Mhz that won't power off. When we tell it to :power :> down it usually tries and then powers right back up. The preferences panel :for :> power doesn't show up (says N/A) since this is a non-turbo station. Anyone :have :> a clue why this would be happening? It even happens sometimes when we power :off :> from the rom monitor (bit sometimes it works from there). :> : : :I had the same happening on my NON-turbo slab. The problem was that I had :played with the "Turn computer on After power off/failure" option in the :preference Power panel and forgot I did. I know you said it wasn't the case for :you, but you added that this option said N/A for you, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT :TRUE FOR A NON-TURBO SLAB (it works on mine at least). For this reason I :suspect there is something wrong with you Preference configuration or someting :messed in the system files it uses. : I don't have any advice for the first poster, but want to correct the response. Some non-turbo slabs most definitely do not offer the auto power up options. The original design (I'm typing on one now) did not support the auto-power stuff; somewhere along the line the board and roms were updated. If you have the older board the power preference panel will say "Not Applicable", sounds like the original poster has one of these machines. cheers, --mike (carlton@isi.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Sometimes my system hangs Message-ID: <Cnn15z.oC@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:17:59 GMT Now, under 3.2 the first time I notice following: Sometimes my system in all apps seems to hang just like reflecting about something and then the disk comes again after a while (so just about 5 to 10 seconds) and does his work. Whats that? Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Disc-floppy-actions Message-ID: <CnqGBI.p3@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:38:05 GMT Could anybody explain me the absolutely art of nonsense from NeXTStep, handling disc-copy/ and deleting of floppies? I ve just copied an app with 900kb and it took far about 5!! minutes. On my good old ATARI I need not more than 30 seconds! And here it writes and writes and writes... why and what??! Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
From: Leo L Turetsky <professor+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1522 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 07:03:40 -0400 Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <shbzEAu00WBM413kk_@andrew.cmu.edu> Does anyone know if this (Adaptec 1522) IDE to SCSI-2 adapter will work with NeXTSTeP Intel 3.2? I don't see why there should be any problems with it, but, I haven't been able to find any info on it at ftp.next.com and cs.orst.edu to confirm or destroy my beliefs about the card. Thanks to anyone who responds. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | professor@CMU.EDU | | Sigma Nu | Carnegie-Mellon University | | 1055 Morewood Ave. | Freshman, ECE\CS Double Major | | Pittsburgh, PA 15213 | Home Town: Great Neck, NY | | (412) 862-3826 | Delta Sigma 1203 | +--------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: CD ROM player without caddy Message-ID: <1994Apr4.104040.10338@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:40:40 GMT Does any of you know a CD ROM player which handles disk with a drawer like an audio CD player and not with a caddy? The caddy is best if you intensively use 2 or 3 CD-ROM and can afford several caddies to protect them, but if you use your player for both audio and data it is a pain. (explain your wife you are going to replace the broken audio CD player with a CD-ROM player, but she will have to handle the caddy every time she wants to put a CD in it, what are the markrting people thinking of?) Any help appreciated Serge
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Next and ADB devices Message-ID: <1994Apr6.225758.19732@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2nv27e$jlq@portal.gmu.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:57:58 GMT In article <2nv27e$jlq@portal.gmu.edu> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) writes: > I seem to have some recolection of seeing the mention in various posting > about the use of ADB devices on NeXT computers. Is it the case that > some NeXT computers are capable of useing ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) keyboards > and mice? If so, which ones, and is it possible to make an 040 Cube use > ADB devices? Yes. Not surprisingly, you need the ADB motherboard, soundbox, etc. I believe that there were some ADB cubes sold (rumour, not personal sightings). They are distinuishable by a funny hemispherical mouse, with the buttons added on as a wedge, and a different keyboard, with a long Command key bar, like the space bar but underneath it. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Problem with ATI GUP 1280x1024 driver? Message-ID: <Cnv4H2.D43@cunews.carleton.ca> Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <rburnsCnuqFy.KL@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:10:13 GMT Randall J. Burns (rburns@netcom.com) wrote: : I've just installed NextStep for Intel on a 60Mhz : Pentium system that has a ATI Graphics Ultrapro video : card. This hardware works _perfectly_ under Windows NT. : (I got the dual boot working with Windows NT). : The only major problem that I have seems to be that the : 1280x1024 driver : 1) only works in grayscale Do your math: 1280x1024x16-bit == 2.56 MB > 2.0MB on ATI G.U.P. ;-) You don't have enough video memory for 1280x1024 colour. Maybe try 1120x832x16bit, plenty of real estate, nice colour. Note that if you have a GUP Revision 3 (not 6) you might not get 1120x832 to work properly (snow whenever objects moved on-screen) : 2) there is a 1 inch band from the left edge that is : fuzzy and I have a bit of trouble selecting icons in this : region. What kind of trouble? Drunken mouse syndrome? Can't see the icons well enough to click them? Inquiring minds want to know... : 3) I sometimes get some white noise around the active window : I'm working in. If the noise is white lines (horizontal) coming out of the sides of active window, it's probably the same problem with the revisions of the card, as in 1). Otherwise, I have no idea... : NextStep seems fine. The ATI GUP driver seems to have some problems. : (at Least when connected via VLB). What a surprise! Broken NeXTSTEP drivers!! WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED? :-> --Chris Chris Saldanha, Carleton University |"Let the programmers be many, and chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | the managers few; then all will be csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | productive." "OH! It's just a little bunny isn't it?"| -The Tao of Programming
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Message-ID: <1994Apr7.014552.23843@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2nv2j3$1bu@machthenext.dannug.dk> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:45:52 GMT In article <2nv2j3$1bu@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) writes: > In article <2nt9i0$1g1@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > |>I know that "officially" it can't be done. Can it, unofficially? > I sure would like to know, too, as this is probably one thing that can > make a NeXT fly, adding more memory.... There's no room for double-sided SIMMs, the slots are too closely spaced. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: Next and ADB devices Message-ID: <1994Apr7.014734.23957@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <2nv27e$jlq@portal.gmu.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:47:34 GMT In article <2nv27e$jlq@portal.gmu.edu> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith) writes: > I seem to have some recolection of seeing the mention in various posting > about the use of ADB devices on NeXT computers. Is it the case that > some NeXT computers are capable of useing ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) keyboards > and mice? If so, which ones, and is it possible to make an 040 Cube use > ADB devices? Only the Turbo systems could use ADB keyboards. Check the FAQs for details on converting a Turbo to use ABD. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Subject: dimming monitor Message-ID: <1994Apr6.233742.4866@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 23:37:42 GMT I have a 68040 cube with a grey-scale monitor. Even though I have the brightness control on the keyboard set to maximum, the display is so dim that I can't read it during afternoon daylight. I know this problem has been reported before. I spoke to our computing center technician about interior adjustments, but he didn't think it would help. I have heard that one can purchase a replacement tube for about $200, but I don't know where. I have also heard that it is possible to exchange my monitor for a new one, but that it would cost about $1000. I'm not sure I want to invest that kind of money in a system that could easily fail because of some other irreplaceable small part. I would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Bill Anderson McGill University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Douglas Moore Subject: PowerBook <-> NeXT Solutions? Message-ID: <Cnqow3.2AL@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: World Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:45:34 GMT Any comments on connecting a PB 165c to a ND would be greatly appreciated. The SCSI Disk mode of the PB is one solution, but I don't want to reboot the ND that much. What are those of you out there doing? --- Douglas Moore 172 East Sixth Street #2106 St Paul, MN 55101 612-227-3274 dmoore@maroon.tc.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
From: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu (Dr. William V. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AT&T DataPort 14.4/Fax modem? Date: 6 Apr 94 23:13:39 Organization: Brigham Young University-Math. Dept Distribution: world Message-ID: <SMITHW.94Apr6231339@sofya.hamblin.math.byu.edu> I have a nextstation at home (one of the earlier mono ones). I have an AT&T DataPort 14.4/Fax modem which belongs to the university. It works fine with the communicae terminial software running 3.0 OS. I had information that this modem could be made to work at least in a limited way. I have the hardware flow control cable. When I try using PrintManager to set up the modem as a fax modem, I get error messages on reboot that say the modem could not be set up (at the end of the boot). Is there some feature that must be disabled-enabled on this modem so that it will function to send a fax? Thanks for any help. -Bill -- _ _|_______====___H____===_====_====_====_====_===____H___====_______ |_______| ]]]] \###########||###########/ [[[[ |" _______| [][] |____ """ UNION | | PACIFIC """ | |o ____| UP |__| \___________________|_ |____________________/\_________| |_| / |__74__| \_| | | | | | || | | | | | | | / \| | |_| |_|=|====|======|=o=|===\/=================================|=\/=|======|=o=|_| |_| [(o)=(o)=(o)=(o)]|_________________||________________[(o)=(o)=(o)=(o)] |_| |============================================================================== [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] 5000 H.P. Track Straightener
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which ethercard is best for NS/FIP ISA? Date: 7 Apr 1994 06:43:03 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2o0a1n$hc4@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2nuspb$2de@mailer.fsu.edu> In article <2nuspb$2de@mailer.fsu.edu>, Dru Nelson <dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu> wrote: > >Hello, > >Which Ethernet card seems to have the least number of problems under NS/FIP 3.2 >on an ISA based system. The only thing I can remember is someone mentioning the >Intel Etherexpress 16 as the best card to use. General consensus seems to be the Intel EtherExpress is the least problematic. I can't speak from personal experience yet as I just picked up mine today. A related question about the Intel EtherExpress: What is the best version to get? There appear to be many, varying on what type of ethernet hardware (twisted pair or coax) they are meant for and on whether they have something called Flash (which is presumably a type of memory???). I got the basic EtherExpress16, which has no flash and isn't flash upgradable. What is the advantage of flash for someone who isn't doing network administration? The box wasn't too descriptive or detailed. It didn't cost that much extra, but I'd never heard about needing it either... -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware From: allan@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Minimizing problems with DPT SCSI controllers Message-ID: <1994Apr5.233653.1057@narwal.ali.bc.ca> Organization: A.L.I. Technologies Distribution: na Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:36:53 GMT In response to my earlier reply to a posting by a chap who couldn't get his sytem to boot with a DPT 2022 SCSI adapter in it, some people posted and e-mailed me indicating that they were still having intermittent problems when running NS/I with this controller and were suprised by the lack of problems I claimed. Anyhow, here is the some hard-won wisdom on the subject using these dang things with fewer problems. Note that I said fewer problems -- I would say none, but sometimes its hard to know which hardware or software component is responsible for the once in a blue moon system lock-up. First off, NeXT recommends disabling the Command Queueing option in the DPT's EISA configuration. I think this is to protect you from devices that don't quite do this properly. It may be superstition to do this on all machines -- but why tempt fate ;-) One thing you should be sure to do is DISABLE the Command Time-Out option of the DPT in its EISA configuration. Otherwise, if one of your hard-drives is taking too long to execute a DASD read or write command, the controller will reset the SCSI bus and retry the command. This will seriously confuse the OS. This is especially true if you have multiple SCSI devices like me (ie. at least two hard-drives going simultaneously most of the time). Although I don't seem to have any serious DPT problems with my home and office NS/I machines, our tech-support people here haven't completely managed to eliminate glitches from our customer systems and thus we are switching to using the new Bustek 747 controllers on all new shipping systems. I think that the customer's DPTs are having more problems than our in-house machines because our customer systems frequently have Iomega Bernoulli drives and/or external WORM jukeboxes on long cables. The Iomega's have an awful SCSI implementation which gave me no end of trouble when I had one in my box. I was more than glad to be rid of the damn thing after a couple of weeks. The WORM jukeboxes seem to introduce cabling noise which the DPT's don't like too much. My two machines are quite stable even when I use them with a portable external SCSI-1 drive. I keep the cable short though, and have external cable detection turned ON in the EISA config. Termination-wise, I always put the terminating internal hard-drive at the end of the cable, rather than at the last used connector. Again this may be superstition, but it works for me. Since I have external cable detection turned on (and thus will only run at 5 MB/s when one is detected) I always remove my external devices when I don't expect them to be used for a while and then terminate the non-SCSI-2 connectors with an external terminator. Since my only external device is my portable hard-drive and I only use this as a digital briefcase to take work home, this hasn't been a big hardship. Your situation may be different. Also VERY IMPORTANT, make sure you are set to be using a WRITE-THROUGH cache in the EISA configuration. The default of WRITE-BACK is unsafe for any unix system without a journaled file-system (BOY WOULD I LIKE A JOURNALED FILE-SYSTEM! NeXT?! VERITAS?! ANYONE?!). I also like to up the read-ahead to 80% as well. Hope this helps.... Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan ALI Technologies
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Request for NEC owners Message-ID: <2nlf87$hmi@wehil.wehi.edu.au> From: odonohue@oahu.ludwig.edu.au (Mark O'Donohue) Date: 3 Apr 1994 04:04:23 GMT Organization: The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research Hi I have been trying to get a driver for the ET4000/W32i which is still "under development" according to Next. However the NEC 16 bit color validated systems have that as part of their makeup. Could some kind NEC owner uuencode the driver and send it to me so that I can have a try. Regards Mark O'Donohue odonohue@oahu.ludwig.edu.au
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Minimizing problems with DPT SCSI controllers Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:58:10 Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis Distribution: na Message-ID: <nemiroal.112.0016F8E4@bus.orst.edu> References: <1994Apr5.233653.1057@narwal.ali.bc.ca> In article <1994Apr5.233653.1057@narwal.ali.bc.ca> allan@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) writes: >From: allan@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk)>Subject: Minimizing problems with DPT SCSI controllers >Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:36:53 GMT >In response to my earlier reply to a posting by a chap who couldn't get his >sytem to boot with a DPT 2022 SCSI adapter in it, some people posted and >e-mailed me indicating that they were still having intermittent problems >when running NS/I with this controller and were suprised by the lack of >problems I claimed. Anyhow, here is the some hard-won wisdom on the >subject using these dang things with fewer problems. Note that I said >fewer problems -- I would say none, but sometimes its hard to know which >hardware or software component is responsible for the once in a blue moon >system lock-up. When I upgraded the ROMs, my random boot-up problems went away. Something you might want to try.
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Date: 5 Apr 1994 17:49:03 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nt0tv$eo7@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <2ns66aINN4fk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Egbert Maben (emaben@stat.ufl.edu) wrote: : We are having a bad NextPrinter to be fixed. We are : thinking of sending it to Bell Atlantic for repair. Could : someone please send me the telephone number/address of : Bell Atlantic. I called the 1-800 directory assistance and : they didn't have bell atlantic in the listing. : Thanks, : -- : Egbert Maben Bell Atlantic; 800-499-NEXT : -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat desert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Bell Atlantic Message-ID: <jscogginCntD9A.Fxx@netcom.com> Keywords: Bell Atlantic, Phone number, Address Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2ns66aINN4fk@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 01:24:46 GMT emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben) sayz: >We are having a bad NextPrinter to be fixed. We are >thinking of sending it to Bell Atlantic for repair. Could >someone please send me the telephone number/address of >Bell Atlantic. I called the 1-800 directory assistance and >they didn't have bell atlantic in the listing. > >Thanks, > > >-- >Egbert Maben Call: 1-800-848-NeXT Answer the auto-voice system, searching for service. It will automatically call Bell-Atlantic. Worked for me this morning. :-) Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeout report #2 Message-ID: <1994Apr5.214338.17359@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 5 Apr 94 21:43:38 EDT References: <2npsso$9p@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2ns15b$iu3@tribune.usask.ca> Organization: Univ of Miami IR In article <2ns15b$iu3@tribune.usask.ca>, eric@skatter.usask.ca writes: >> 2. This one and only EISA combination 2012/2022/2122 and NS/I DPT driver >> does not work reliably. It must be considered even dangerous to run >> a NS/I server machine with this combination. Severe data loss is >> possible. >> > I'd like to point out that `your mileage may vary'. I have been running > a DPT 2022 (with no cache) for 3 months now, heavy usage, and have had > exactly 0 of these EATA Timeouts. > > -- > Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca > Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory > University of Saskatchewan > Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted. As reported to some of the users having problems - I have NO EATA timeouts even with heavy usage as a server AS LONG AS I RUN ONLY A SINGLE SCSI DEVICE - THE INTERNAL DEC 1.5GB DRIVE. If I run either my Wang DAT or my Sony CD drive or both, I get a timeout every 7-10 days. In almost six months of total operation, 4.5 of which were with two or more SCSI devices, I have had maybe 15 timeouts, of which only one caused serious problems - In that case I had a panic and minor filesystem damage which was repaired by a manual fsck and replacement of a link. Still, considering the number of similar reported problems and the fact that this problem seems to occur on just the kind of machines which are likely to be network servers, I am very nervous - Even if one out of 10 or even 100 such users suffers panics or filesystem damage, the problem is serious. Yes, there seems to be a lot of variation in frequency among users but, I view the timeout problem as one of the most serious I have encountered with Unix or NeXTstep systems - An erratic server is dangerous and I worry - Not to the extent of staying awake all night but nevertheless I am very concerned. Thomas J. Herbert Department of Biology University of Miami
From: milov@uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HardDrive Spec Date: 7 Apr 1994 13:16:09 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o112p$si4@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> References: <7656591121098n12@131.168.114.12> Keywords: intel disk In article <7656591121098n12@131.168.114.12> Narinder=Chauhan%Suppliers%HQIM=Mun@bangate.compaq.com writes: > I am thinking of buying a GW2000 machine with 2 * WD 540 Hard drives will this allow me > to run the NextStep development system or do I need a SCSI drive. A single 540 MB disk has enough room for a complete installation of NeXTSTEP and NS Developer. I have installed them both on smaller disks. If you do the installation of the (assumed to be IDE) disks yourself then you must remove the C/D jumper from one of the drives to make it the second drive. We have done this on a regular basis to install a "tuned" configuration of NS on our student lab machines. -- Milo --- Milo Velimirovic (milov@uwlax.edu) Unix Computer Network Administrator University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Date: 6 Apr 1994 03:16:16 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <2nt9i0$1g1@network.ucsd.edu> I know that "officially" it can't be done. Can it, unofficially? -- Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: rec.running,rec.bicycles.tech,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: my Accurex II sez that Mac IIfx's resting HR is 52 pulse/min Date: 7 Apr 1994 13:49:16 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2o130s$jl5@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu This ain't no joke! My Mac IIfx has a better heart than I! My resting heart rate is 55 p/min whereas my Mac's is 52. So the question is: am I gonna get cancer from this in the long run (pun intended)? I'm worried about my NeXT CUBE though: it seems to be dead (according to my HRM). What about your Macs and the like? Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: NEC 3Xi CD-ROM doesn't work? Message-ID: <CntA1M.10w@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <1994Apr5.105751.15130@cc.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 00:15:21 GMT In article <1994Apr5.105751.15130@cc.usu.edu> slxn8@cc.usu.edu writes: > I am/was trying to use a NEC Multispin 3Xi CD-ROM drive. The one that came > with my Image P60 machine...but Packages refuse to install. I am trying to > install the developer stuff... > My triple speed NEC works just fine. However, I have noticed the same problem as you describe when using some double and triple speed drived that have been set to SCSI-II instead of SCSI-I. -- _______________ Karl Kraft I don't speak for trapac, and they don't speak for me. Karl_Kraft@trapac.com -- _______________ Karl Kraft I don't speak for trapac, and they don't speak for me. Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris J. Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mux Driver (Re: Serial port hardware/drivers for NSI?) Date: 6 Apr 1994 06:59:07 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ntmjr$15d@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <2nqrid$re@news.delphi.com> <2ns8sb$iok@cs.ubc.ca> <next2.765579544@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <2nspgk$9t@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <2nspgk$9t@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes: >I installed the MUXD driver and it worked, but seemed >no faster than the Next driver, AND all z-modem transfers >failed. I just installed the vanilla MUX driver after a make. >What could I have done wrong? > >R. de Lucca I too just installed the Mux driver, and it works a bit better (I don't get many errors at 19200 anymore), but I still lose a lot of characters at 38400 with Mux complaining: Apr 5 23:03:00 localhost mach: Mux[7e1]: silo overflow Apr 5 23:03:41 localhost last message repeated 21 times I'm using the default configuration, and I tried doubling the buffer size to 4096 with no apparent change: mach: Mux0: probe for Serial Port Hardware: mach: 0x3f8: 16450 installed Buffer 1536<2000<4096 mach: Registering: Mux0 mach: Mux1: probe for Serial Port Hardware: mach: 0x2f8: 16450 installed Buffer 1536<2000<4096 mach: Registering: Mux1 Anyone have any clues? Thanks --- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: NextStep with a 1600 x 1280 monitor -- questions Message-ID: <Cnt4q6.ID@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <2ne6v1$ngc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:20:30 GMT > In article <2ne6v1$ngc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU > (Todd Takken) writes: > > > I have a NeXT colorstation (1120 by 832 @ 68 Hz, I believe) driving > a ViewSonic 21" monitor which is capable of 1280 by 1024 @76 Hz or > 1600 by 1280 @ 60 Hz. If I replace my colorstation with an Intel > box, then: > > 1) Are there NextStep supported video cards which drive 1600 by > 1280? I pass on this one. > 2) Will the limitation of a 60 Hz refresh rate be noticeable? I > think the 68 Hz refresh rate I have now is fine, so I'm wondering > if those 8 Hz are important. I did work quite some time with 60Hz Non-NeXT color machines and it did make a world of difference, especially compared to b/w 68Hz NeXTs. > 3) What will the extra pixels do to the appearance of my screen? > Are the icons in the dock a fixed number of pixels in size, and > will they therefore appear smaller and take up less space? The icons in the dock are of fixed pixel size. This is pixels as in graphics hardware in your computer. If you stick with your monitor all the graphics-board pixels will get mapped to your monitor area, thus a hardware-pixel of graphics-board will appear smaller on the monitor. Still, some software might blowup the screen contents to fill the new graphics-hardware resolution. Then you gain nothing. But this is not standard. If your monitor can do it and you get a next supported grtahics hardware with higher resolution you really have more space on the screen but everything appears smaller! You just can't get everything, can you! Juergen --- Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok ) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688 == The revolution will not be televised - GilScottHeron 1970 == == The revolution will not be posted - Juergen 1994 ==
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Problem with ATI GUP 1280x1024 driver? Message-ID: <Cnw4wM.s3@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <rburnsCnuqFy.KL@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:17:08 GMT In article <rburnsCnuqFy.KL@netcom.com> rburns@netcom.com (Randall J. Burns) writes: > I've just installed NextStep for Intel on a 60Mhz > Pentium system that has a ATI Graphics Ultrapro video > card. This hardware works _perfectly_ under Windows NT. > (I got the dual boot working with Windows NT). > The only major problem that I have seems to be that the > 1280x1024 driver > 1) only works in grayscale > 2) there is a 1 inch band from the left edge that is > fuzzy and I have a bit of trouble selecting icons in this > region. > 3) I sometimes get some white noise around the active window > I'm working in. > > NextStep seems fine. The ATI GUP driver seems to have some problems. > (at Least when connected via VLB). > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Might be your screen? My ATI GUP VLB works perfect in 1280x1024 (with an EIZO 6500 gray scale screen). Gerd
From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to buy Miro 32s video cards Date: 7 Apr 1994 16:43:49 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2o1d85$13s@news.doit.wisc.edu> I'm having great difficulty finding someone who sells the Miro Crystal 32s video card. Do you have to order directly from Miro Germany? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Michael Haker Dept. Chemistry UW-Madison haker@whitewater
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) Subject: Floppy eject problems Message-ID: <1994Apr5.010529.18943@afit.af.mil> Keywords: nextstep floppy eject Sender: news@afit.af.mil Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology Distribution: comp.sys.next.software Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 01:05:29 GMT Has anyone had problems ejecting floppies on black hardware? If so, how did you solve the problem? When I load a dos or NeXT floppy it mounts and I can use it just fine. However, in the Workspace Disk menu, Eject is not highlighted. I've also tried unmounting it from a terminal window with no luck. The disk does eject when you log out. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. -- Eric Baenen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) Subject: Trouble with DPT SCSI card when installing NS/I Message-ID: <1994Apr5.015256.19430@afit.af.mil> Keywords: DPT SCSI nextstep intel Sender: news@afit.af.mil Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology Distribution: comp.sys.next.software Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 01:52:56 GMT Has anyone recently tried loading NeXTSTEP/Intel on a Notebook with a docking station/expansion chasis? I am trying to load it on a Gateway Nomad 486DX2 50 MHz with an Axonix Lapstation IV expansion chasis. I have a DPT 2021/95 SCSI card in the expansion chasis along with a Toshiba XM-3401B CD-ROM drive and a Micropolis 1 Gig SCSI hard drive. When I try to install NS, the install program says it is re-initializing the SCSI bus and then informs me that it cannot find a SCSI card or the CD-ROM drive. Incidently, the whole setup works just fine under DOS/Windoze - but I don't want to run DOS/Windoze - except for maybe Word 6.0. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. -- Eric Baenen (NeXTMail accepted/preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) Subject: Re: Mux Driver (Re: Serial port hardware/drivers for NSI?) Sender: news@prz.tu-berlin.de (Newsadmin Elwood-PRZ) Message-ID: <1994Apr6.121004.1419@prz.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:10:04 GMT References: <2ntmjr$15d@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Organization: PRZ TU-Berlin In article <2ntmjr$15d@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris J. Roehrig) writes: > In article <2nspgk$9t@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea > Brooks) writes: > >I installed the MUXD driver and it worked, but seemed > >no faster than the Next driver, AND all z-modem transfers > >failed. I just installed the vanilla MUX driver after a make. > >What could I have done wrong? > > > >R. de Lucca > > I too just installed the Mux driver, and it works a bit better (I don't get > many errors at 19200 anymore), but I still lose a lot of characters at > 38400 with Mux complaining: > Apr 5 23:03:00 localhost mach: Mux[7e1]: silo overflow > Apr 5 23:03:41 localhost last message repeated 21 times > > I'm using the default configuration, and I tried doubling the buffer size > to 4096 with no apparent change: > mach: Mux0: probe for Serial Port Hardware: > mach: 0x3f8: 16450 installed Buffer 1536<2000<4096 > mach: Registering: Mux0 > mach: Mux1: probe for Serial Port Hardware: > mach: 0x2f8: 16450 installed Buffer 1536<2000<4096 > mach: Registering: Mux1 > > Anyone have any clues? The problem are the 16450 chips, they generate an interrupt for every character coming in. Almost all serious sources recommend that you use the 16550 (NS16550AFN) UARTs chips instead if you want speeds over 9600bps under a multitasking operating system. They have a FIFO buffer and hence they reduce the number of interrupts significantly. The 16550AFN is full pin-compatible to the 16450. On my I/O card one of the 16450 chips was in a socket, so I simply replaced it with a NS16550AFN (you don't need it for a serial mouse, so one was enough for me) and 38400bps and 57000bps work like a charm - but under ISC Unix (a SysV R3.2 derivate) :-) Of coures the serial driver must support the FIFO feature of the chip otherwise it looks like a 16450 to it and you have no advantage. I don't know it about the MUX driver. I don't use NS at home. I heard that the original serial driver from NS supports the FIFO feature of the 16550AFN, but I doesn't work as we all know. One reason could be - if I'm not wrong here - that NS/fIP gives serial interrupts a very less priority (I remeber it was even the lowest priority). Other Unix's (like SysV or BSD derivates) for Intel hardware give serial interrupts almost the highest priority to avoid character loss. Thomas -- Thomas Wolfram <thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de> Germany: 0 30 31421171 PRZ TU Berlin <wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de> abroad: +49 30 31421171 EANTC WWW: http://www.prz.tu-berlin.de:2784/~wolf _____________________________________________________________________________ _____S__I__C____T__R__A__N__S__I__T____G__L__O__R__I__A____M__U__N__D__I_____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Narinder=Chauhan%Suppliers%HQIM=Mun@bangate.compaq.com Subject: HardDrive Spec Sender: news@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com (Netnews) Organization: Compaq Computer GmbH Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:05:12 GMT Message-ID: <7656591121098n12@131.168.114.12> I am thinking of buying a GW2000 machine with 2 * WD 540 Hard drives will this allow me to run the NextStep development system or do I need a SCSI drive.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to buy Miro 32s video cards Date: 7 Apr 1994 19:24:31 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2o1mlh$4s@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2o1d85$13s@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <2o1d85$13s@news.doit.wisc.edu>, M Haker <haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote: > >I'm having great difficulty finding someone who sells the Miro Crystal 32s >video card. Do you have to order directly from Miro Germany? Any help >would be appreciated. Bought mine from Alpine (1-800-748-4558) for $764 + shipping ($10). The people at Alpine are very friendly, helpful, and knowledgable from all the dealings I've had with them (AJ on phone, Kris on net, other helpful people on phone). Don't forget to tell them you need the NS drivers too (Windows drivers come with the card from Miro). You can also buy from Miro (1-800-862-5678) division in Silicon Valley, but it is more ($899). They'll supply NS drivers too if asked. -Karl
From: dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which ethercard is best for NS/FIP ISA? Date: 6 Apr 1994 17:50:35 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <2nuspb$2de@mailer.fsu.edu> Hello, Which Ethernet card seems to have the least number of problems under NS/FIP 3.2 on an ISA based system. The only thing I can remember is someone mentioning the Intel Etherexpress 16 as the best card to use. Dru
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Floppy eject problems Message-ID: <jscogginCntDw9.HAu@netcom.com> Keywords: nextstep floppy eject Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <1994Apr5.010529.18943@afit.af.mil> Distribution: comp.sys.next.software Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 01:38:32 GMT ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) sayz: >Has anyone had problems ejecting floppies on black hardware? > >If so, how did you solve the problem? > >When I load a dos or NeXT floppy it mounts and I can use it just fine. >However, in the Workspace Disk menu, Eject is not highlighted. I've also >tried unmounting it from a terminal window with no luck. The disk does >eject when you log out. > >Any help would be sincerely appreciated. > >-- > >Eric Baenen One problem I have, might be the cause of yours. If I am accessing a file or directory, on the floppy, an error message will pop up for a split second and disappear, but the disk won't eject. This usually happens in a Mach window, where I've 'CD' to the disk. Just change the current directory to something not on the disk, then try again. Also happens when I have an open application, that previously accessed a file on that floppy, or in my case, Magneto-Optical. I'm required to quit the App to eject. Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Minimizing problems with DPT SCSI controllers Date: 7 Apr 94 20:01:25 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Distribution: na Message-ID: <next2.765748885@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <1994Apr5.233653.1057@narwal.ali.bc.ca> allan@narwal.ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) writes: [... A lot of good advice omitted ...] I disabled "Timeout enable" in EISA config. I removed my SyQuest drive from the SCSI chain because it behaved as bad as the mentioned Bernoulli drives. I have no external devices and a rather short internal cable. I set the transfer rate to 5 MB/s. I have active termination on the last internal hard disk. I set the cache option to "Write back". I still got EATA timeouts. What else could I do? Shouldn't it be possible for the NeXT DPT driver to detect these timeouts and react in a certain manner? Regards, Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Serial Port Camera? Date: 7 Apr 1994 13:26 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <7APR199413265124@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. Ages ago there was a camera that could store 32 (?) 640x480 (?) "photos" that could be imported via the NeXT serial port. Anyone know anything about that? I'd like to get one. (I think the company is still in business selling items for the Mac market.) Thanks. Don McCollam mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Basic SCSI Specification Online Anywhere? Message-ID: <1994Apr5.191748.13599@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: gtoews@ugly.uvic.ca Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 19:17:48 GMT I want to do some very basic SCSI programming, mainly the SCSI Inquiry command but I don't want the hassle of trying to order it from ANSI or Global Engineering Documents. Is the specification online anywhere on the net or compuserve or can someone send me the complete description of the Inquiry command. Thanks for any help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Dimming monitor on ADB Nextstation? Message-ID: <1994Apr7.220724.9903@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 22:07:24 GMT Some years ago we had some NeXTstations whose monitors became dim after a year or so, and got dimmer and dimmer and dimmer ... This was a known problem at NeXT and they swapped out the monitors free of charge. I now have a Turbo NeXTstation with ADB keyboard and one of the new monitors (not a goose neck -- more like a club foot) which is about a year old. I may have this problem again on my new machine! Unless I am mistaken, the new monitor has begun to dim similarly to the way the old ones did. (If I set the dimmer slide bar in Preferences.app to the darkest point at which I can still see where the slide bar is, it is at 40-45% of the length of the bar from the left.) I was under the impression that this problem was re-engineered in the new monitors and that it shouldn't happen again. Have others had this problem with the new monitors? Could this be the same problem so that I will have to have the monitor swapped out, or is there another possibility, with a simple fix? Don Petcher
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <next2.765643384@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Control: cancel <next2.765643384@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: 6 Apr 1994 14:54:42 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <2nuifi$1njq@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> cancel <next2.765643384@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.hardware This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: deluxe@well.sf.ca.us (Don Hurter) Subject: Re: Need SCSI ID info for Maxtor XT-8380S (NeXT part S3001) Sender: news@gallant.apple.com Message-ID: <deluxe-070494165958@17.220.88.110> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:59:58 GMT References: <2n264j$1oo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Organization: Buzz's Towing and Wrecker Service (24 hour) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc In article <2n264j$1oo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, kdb@pegasus (Kurt D. Bollacker) wrote: > I recently purchased a 5.25"FH SCSI HD (Maxtor XT-8380S), which is actually > NeXT's original 330MB HD for the cube (part# S3001). However, it conflicts > with the SCSI ID's of the internal HD of my NSC and my CD-ROM drive. On the > back of the controller board of the drive there are jumper pins in two groups > in the following configuration: > > ooo ooo_o > _oo ooooo > > o = pin exists > _ = pin purposefully missing > > I have tried several combinations of jumpers (none existed initially) but to > no avail. Does anyone know how to set the SCSI ID of this thing? Any help > would certainly be appreciated. Generally speaking, most SCSI devices have 3 pairs of pins similar to this: ooo ooo where jumpers determine the ID at startup. If I need to attach an unknown drive to a system I jump the middle two: ooo | ooo so that I'm guaranteed ID 2. Luckily the internal drives on NeXTs are preset to ID 1, so as long as you don't have any other drives hanging off the back this should work. If your drive is missing pins, they are either broken or you might be looking at a set of pins intended for something else. I've never owned a Maxtor XT-8380S, so I don't know why your pins are the way they are. I wish NeXT computers were more flexible with SCSI ID's; on the Mac you can select which drive to boot from in software with a simple control panel (Startup Disk), regardless of physical ID settings. Also, there is a great freeware utility called SCSI Probe which displays graphically all of the attached devices and their vendors, product descriptions, and version number in a tight little chart. In fact, I've sometimes used my Mac to verify if I attached an ID select switch properly with these tools and then attached the device to the NeXT. Anyone know of similar graphical utilities available for the NeXT?
From: alevine@ucsd.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Date: 8 Apr 1994 05:46:10 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o2r32$237@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1994Apr7.014552.23843@cs.yale.edu> In article <1994Apr7.014552.23843@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > In article <2nv2j3$1bu@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) > writes: > > In article <2nt9i0$1g1@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > > |>I know that "officially" it can't be done. Can it, unofficially? > > > I sure would like to know, too, as this is probably one thing that can > > make a NeXT fly, adding more memory.... > > There's no room for double-sided SIMMs, the slots are too closely > spaced. > Well, I know that's supposed to be the case. But I've had two double-sided simms (4MB parity simms) in my 'station for over a year now, with no complaints. It was a bit tight, but they fit. So, the question is, if I can get two 4MB double-sided simms in there, why not two 8MB simms? -- Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093 ************************************************ Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions expressed by anyone at any time.
From: David.Halliday@ASU.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ONLY A TEST Date: 07 Apr 94 14:36:11 Organization: College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, ASU Message-ID: <Dave.94Apr7143611@ournext> Hi, please forgive us, we are having a problem and need some testing.
From: David.Halliday@ASU.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ONLY A TEST Date: 07 Apr 94 14:47:35 Organization: College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, ASU Message-ID: <Dave.94Apr7144735@ournext> Please, we seam to be having a bit of trouble. Sory.
From: David.Halliday@ASU.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ONLY A TEST Date: 07 Apr 94 14:48:36 Organization: College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, ASU Message-ID: <Dave.94Apr7144836@ournext> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca> <CnsuGA.KwD@cix.compulink.co.uk> <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> A test with references.
From: David.Halliday@ASU.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!!> Date: 07 Apr 94 14:55:25 Organization: College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, ASU Message-ID: <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca> <CnsuGA.KwD@cix.compulink.co.uk> <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> Hello Netfolk, Since I was one of the ``main'' instigators of the ``rumor'' that NEXTSTEP is planed to be ported to PowerPCs, I figure I had better comment and perhaps help set the record straight. I had called 1-800-TRY-NeXT a few weeks ago and had been told that NEXTSTEP was planed to be ported to the PowerPSs and to the PowerMacs soon thereafter. Just now, after seeing Chris Rose's post (chrisr@cix.compulink.co.uk, article <CnsuGA.KwD@cix.compulink.co.uk>) indicating that this info was untrue, I called NeXT again. After some redirection I finally talked to Robin Lechonby (spelling?) who informed me that indeed there is no immediate plan for a direct port of NEXTSTEP to the PowerPCs B-(, but that a port through OpenStep (is that the correct capitalization?) on top of Solaris was likely (if not definite). She did leave it open as to whether enough noise could be made to coerce NeXT into a direct port so we don't have to rely on the vagaries of Sun and the weaknesses of Solaris. Sorry for the misinformation---I must plead to having been mislead myself. I hope this info helps. David Halliday David.Halliday@ASU.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: Serial Port Camera? Message-ID: <CnxnzA.K6v@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <7APR199413265124@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:06:46 GMT In article <7APR199413265124@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes: > Hi. Ages ago there was a camera that could store 32 (?) 640x480 (?) "photos" > that could be imported via the NeXT serial port. Anyone know anything about > that? I'd like to get one. (I think the company is still in business > selling items for the Mac market.) Apple have the QuickTake 100 camera, takes (I think ) 24 pictures at that resolution before you have to download. It would be interesting to find out whether Apple are documenting the protocol, and allowing other kinds of machines to connect to it and suck down pictures. Judging by their performance with Newton, probably not... -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Play3401 for Apple CD300? Date: 8 Apr 1994 11:45:06 +0100 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2o3cji$1j2@steffi.demon.co.uk> Has anybody got Play3401 working on a CD300? ie. changed the SCSI commands used to that required to do CDDA on a CD300? -- "C++ is the best C++ there is." (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) Subject: Anyone Tried the New Dot Matrix Drivers on an InkJet Message-ID: <1994Apr7.224037.23312@sol.UVic.CA> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 22:40:37 GMT Has anyone tried the new dot matrix drivers (on Inkjets with dot matrix emulations). I'm curious about how well a document with graphics included would come out.
From: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu (Richard Beigel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: frozen clock Date: 8 Apr 1994 06:18:18 -0400 Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept, New Haven CT 06520-8285 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o3b1aINN6gs@BEECH.THEORY.CS.YALE.EDU> My NeXTstation (color, nonturbo) crashed. When I tried to reboot from the hard disk or from a floppy it didn't even start its self-test. The hardware support people diagnosed the probable problem as a frozen clock. They had me unplug the machine, remove the lithium battery for an hour, replace the battery, and power on the machine. All of my preferences had to be reset, but at least the machine runs again. What I am wondering is whether I can expect the "frozen clock" problem to recur. My machine is still under warranty, for what that is worth. --- Richard -- Richard Beigel telephone: (203)432-1228 Dept. of Computer Science email: beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu P.O. Box 208285 campus mail: A. K. Watson Hall New Haven, CT 06520-8285 51 Prospect Street
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: Where to buy Miro 32s video cards Message-ID: <Cnxz18.B2M@eunet.ch> Keywords: Miro Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <2o1d85$13s@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:05:31 GMT In article <2o1d85$13s@news.doit.wisc.edu> haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) writes: > > I'm having great difficulty finding someone who sells the Miro Crystal 32s > video card. Do you have to order directly from Miro Germany? Any help > would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Michael Haker > Dept. Chemistry > UW-Madison > haker@whitewater Try calling Dave Buck at Advanced Information Solutions in Boston... He sold me a complete NEC pentium system that works fine with a Miro card ! His e-mail is dbuck@advis.com Phone is : (617)350.8818 Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
From: johnr@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (John Rihn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SpeedStar Pro VLB Date: 8 Apr 1994 12:54:49 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o3k6p$heo@toads.pgh.pa.us> Posted a week ago concerning the SpeedStar Pro VLB 1Mg. Video Card and its compatibility with NeXt release 3.1 I Have had no replies so I take it that means on of three things: 1. Nobody gives a shit 2. Nobody has a clue 3. The folks that do know are too busy to help? Oh Well...I'll see if anyone responds (God knows calling NeXt is no help) over the next few days...if not...on to UnixWare...it's a lot more hardware friendly!!! ~John johnr@icarus.lis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org Subject: Re: Where to buy Miro 32s video cards Message-ID: <1994Apr8.123019.9728@metasoft.fdn.org> Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France. References: <2o1mlh$4s@Times.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:30:19 GMT In article <2o1mlh$4s@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > In article <2o1d85$13s@news.doit.wisc.edu>, > M Haker <haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote: > > > >I'm having great difficulty finding someone who sells the Miro Crystal > >32s video card. Do you have to order directly from Miro Germany? [...] > Bought mine from Alpine (1-800-748-4558) for $764 + shipping ($10). [...] > You can also buy from Miro (1-800-862-5678) division in Silicon Valley, > but it is more ($899). They'll supply NS drivers too if asked. And what about Miro products in Europe ? Who knows the e-mail address of Miro in Germany or un importateur des cartes Miro en France (qui aurait aussi les drivers NEXTSTEP...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: nieder@srztm303.alcatel.ch (Claudio Nieder) Subject: Re: CeBIT bomb: Float power Gecko 712/80i released Message-ID: <1994Apr8.142518.4942@alcatel.ch> Followup-To: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@alcatel.ch Organization: Alcatel STR AG, Switzerland References: <2mbgnf$jb5@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:25:18 GMT Jochen Richter (jr@sade.ka.sub.org) wrote: : Yesterday on the CeBIT fair I was told from a HP representative that from now : on the 712/80i is shipped with the full possible floating point power (due to a : DEC competition model that is tuned in floating point power). According to the : 800 Series model with the same processor: 120 SPECfp92!!! : All machines from now on are shipped upgraded (only a ROM change?). Old systems : are upgraded free of charge (according to the HP representative). How can you find out, if a system you receive is already upgraded, or still an old one? -- Claudio Nieder (3.329), Alcatel STR AG, Friesenbergstr. 75, CH-8055 Zürich Internet: Claudio.Nieder@alcatel.ch Phone: +411 465 3791 X.400: G=Claudio S=Nieder PRMD=Alcatel ADMD=ARCOM C=CH Fax: +411 465 3191 (************ Computer: The best toy ever invented **************)
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CeBIT bomb: Float power Gecko 712/80i released Date: 8 Apr 1994 17:04:54 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2o42rm$d02@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2mbgnf$jb5@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org> <1994Apr8.142518.4942@alcatel.ch> >> How can you find out, if a system you receive is already upgraded, or still >> an old one? Run the Specmark? mark
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC MultiSpin 3Xp CD-ROM Drive? Date: 8 Apr 1994 17:53:11 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2o45m7INN61l@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Does the NEC MultiSpin 3Xp CD-ROM Drive work with a NeXTstation Color (25MHz)? I need a Drive for less than $500, but works with both Mac PowerBooks and NeXTs. Any suggestions and/or impressions of the product or a similar product are aprreciated? Will I notice a difference in the performance between triple-speed and double-speed (Apple CD300)? Thank you. -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: 8 Apr 1994 14:21:42 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <CnsuGA.KwD@cix.compulink.co.uk> <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> David.Halliday@ASU.Edu writes: Just now, after seeing Chris Rose's post (chrisr@cix.compulink.co.uk, article <CnsuGA.KwD@cix.compulink.co.uk>) indicating that this info was untrue, I called NeXT again. After some redirection I finally talked to Robin Lechonby (spelling?) who informed me that indeed there is no immediate plan for a direct port of NEXTSTEP to the PowerPCs B-(, but that a port through OpenStep (is that the correct capitalization?) on top of Solaris was likely (if not definite). She did leave it open as to whether enough noise could be made to coerce NeXT into a direct port so we don't have to rely on the vagaries of Sun and the weaknesses of Solaris. (end of quote) Ok.. so who do we start making noise at? I get the feeling that NS/FIP is going to be a bastard child because it's such a un-unified platform. I think a PPC version would be easier for NeXT to support. I also think that between nativs NS on Sparc and HP that a PPC and PowerMac version could help get NS status as a "universal OS". I'd much rather see NS in that status than Solaris (tho I wouldn't mind seing both there). When I first heard the (now incorrect) statement, I was exstatic (sp?). I thought that this selection of platforms for NS would in fact put them into that universal role. If there's anything I can do to kick Steve's butt into the propper direction, I'll help. We should maybe try to get people together to sign a petition or something. Not that it'd have any direct power..but it'd be a sign to NeXT that there is in fact interest in this market. If NeXT were to meet the goals that the statement had made (NS for PPC and NS for P-Mac, with the latter having support for Mac apps), I'd go out and buy a P-Mac to run it. (in fact, that's probably the only condition under which I'd do it.. Until that announcement I wasn't even looking at P-Mac's.. I liked th PPC architecture, but wasn't going to shell out money on it. but this made me start looking long and hard at the P-Mac.. and if NS/for PowerMac comes out, I'll go back to looking at buying one just to run NS). John (an NS/FIP owner) -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) ===========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.=============== To me, boxing is like ballet..except there's not music, no choreography, and the dancers hit eachother.
From: bobs@pth3.bu.edu (Robert Singleton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SIMMS Date: 8 Apr 1994 19:01:47 GMT Organization: Boston University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o49mr$t1f@news.bu.edu> 1) FOR SALE: 8 M of RAM for mono next station. 2) WANTED: SIMMS for color next station. I upgraded my mono station and now have some SIMMS just collecting dust. I will take the best offer (or trade for color station SIMMS). I now have 16 M of RAM for my color station and I want to upgrade to 24 or 32 M. My network is going down this weekend so you might have to send email to bobs@conx.bu.edu. You can also call me at 617-353-6069. regards, -- bob singleton bobs@pth3.bu.edu
From: wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: 8 Apr 1994 20:16:35 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Message-ID: <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> In article <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu>, John <gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu> wrote: > > >When I first heard the (now incorrect) statement, I was exstatic (sp?). >I thought that this selection of platforms for NS would in fact put >them into that universal role. If there's anything I can do to kick >Steve's butt into the propper direction, I'll help. We should maybe >try to get people together to sign a petition or something. Not >that it'd have any direct power..but it'd be a sign to NeXT that >there is in fact interest in this market. If NeXT were to meet the >goals that the statement had made (NS for PPC and NS for P-Mac, with >the latter having support for Mac apps), I'd go out and buy a P-Mac >to run it. (in fact, that's probably the only condition under which >I'd do it.. Until that announcement I wasn't even looking at P-Mac's.. >I liked th PPC architecture, but wasn't going to shell out money on it. >but this made me start looking long and hard at the P-Mac.. and if >NS/for PowerMac comes out, I'll go back to looking at buying one just >to run NS). Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" I kind of suspect there would be many. count me in Bryce wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu
From: Ahti.Kotisaari@helsinki.fi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printer Problems Date: 8 Apr 1994 20:52:17 GMT Organization: University of Helsinki Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o4g61$meg@klaava.Helsinki.FI> References: <2npot2INNcuo@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <2npot2INNcuo@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> emaben@stat.ufl.edu (Egbert Maben) writes: > We are having problems with the next printer (400 dpi laser > printer). One of the gears , which helps in pushing the > paper into the output tray ( The gear which is connected to > the metallic roller ) is having couple of bad teeth. This > makes the paper to remain inside the printer (approximately > an inch inside) after the print is complete. This ends > up in paper jam message. If we manually pull the paper out, > we can print without the paper jam message. > Is there a place where we can get the printer fixed? Do > anyone know where we can get the printer components? We > are ready to strike a deal with the persons interested in > selling their nextprinters (if there is someone out there). > > Please help. > > Thanks, > Egbert Maben Similar, a bit thicker gears was (year ago) available from CANON (the machine inside is from them). It could be ground narrower, if you are skillfull.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Re: Dimming monitor on ADB Nextstation? Message-ID: <1994Apr8.221638.754@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis References: <1994Apr7.220724.9903@wuphys.wustl.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 22:16:38 GMT I just want to let you know that I am pleased to death that someone from Bell Atlantic answered my question about my dimming ADB monitor directly (it should not be the same as the old recall problem). I am happy to see that our hardware support company is monitoring the net! Cheers, Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Subject: Re: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Message-ID: <Cnw5uK.3A1@moksha.uucp> Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) Organization: Totally Disorganized References: <1994Apr7.014552.23843@cs.yale.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:37:31 GMT In article <1994Apr7.014552.23843@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > In article <2nv2j3$1bu@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) > writes: > > In article <2nt9i0$1g1@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes: > > |>I know that "officially" it can't be done. Can it, unofficially? > > > I sure would like to know, too, as this is probably one thing that can > > make a NeXT fly, adding more memory.... > > There's no room for double-sided SIMMs, the slots are too closely > spaced. > Hmm. When I first got a NSC 3 years ago, I immediately added some memory. The 2 4 meg simms I got were in fact double-sided. It was very tight, but they fit. Is there a difference in thickness b/w a 2 sided 4 meg simm and a 2 sided 8 meg simm ? ( btw, I don't see these 2 sided 4 meg simms anymore....) Has the installation of 8 meg simms actually been tried, or only speculated upon ? -- -Michael mgb@thoth.stetson.edu -- -Michael
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What about new 64 bit accelerators? Date: 8 Apr 1994 23:54:08 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2o4qr1$ln1@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1994Apr5.210059.19797@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> [1] There are no 64-bit (RAMDAC) cards working with NS as-of-yet. NeXT has not made public any plans to port to any. [2] There are no Pentium 60/90s (that you can order today) working with NS as-of-yet. NeXT has not made public any plans to port to any. [3] There are no better-than-EISA SCSI cards (e.g., the PCI NCR SCSI) yet released (although talus has been working on it; interestingly, they don't seem to get along with NeXT). NeXT has not made public any plans to port to any. NeXTStep: the high-end operating system for 1-year-old high-end computers. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial Port Camera? Date: 8 Apr 1994 23:28:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o4pb6$5hd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <7APR199413265124@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> In article <7APR199413265124@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes: > Hi. Ages ago there was a camera that could store 32 (?) 640x480 (?) "photos" > that could be imported via the NeXT serial port. Anyone know anything about > that? I'd like to get one. (I think the company is still in business > selling items for the Mac market.) > Thanks. > Don McCollam > mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu It was the Dycam. I think it's still made, tho I doubt it's still supported. (Intermittent Alzheimer's - can't remember who.) Anyone know if Logitech's FotoMan might be supported? Steve Weintz EthnoGraphics
From: jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Gavin Gim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the current choice of modem and software? Message-ID: <Apr.7.19.44.26.1994.19829@atlantis.rutgers.edu> Date: 7 Apr 94 23:44:26 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. I've finally made up my mind to replace my old 2400 BPS modem. I'm looking for modem/software that can do caller ID, answering machine, fax receiving/sending, and of cause higher than 14.4 KBPS data rate. I heard of NXFax some time ago. Is it capable of all the functions I desire? I'm using black hardware running NS3.0. Also, which store offer good price? Thanks. Gavin
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sometimes my system hangs Message-ID: <Apr.5.14.13.38.1994.2179@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 5 Apr 94 18:13:38 GMT References: <Cnn15z.oC@manki.toppoint.de> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) writes: >Now, under 3.2 the first time I notice following: >Sometimes my system in all apps seems to hang just like reflecting >about something and then the disk comes again after a while (so just >about 5 to 10 seconds) and does his work. Whats that? I believe that is probably your SCSI card doint an EATA time out and resync. I have this happen too. A reboot sometimes solves this problem for me. It seems to always happen right after a cold (power on) start. But If I hit the reset button after the cold start the system seems to run ok. Go figure this pc junk hardware... Later, John
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (D) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: problem with downloads: white machine Date: 9 Apr 1994 03:34:36 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2o57oc$4mn@masala.cc.uh.edu> Hi, I sometimes have a problem with my computer that I don't really know what is wrong, and it cause the my computer to go crazy and I was wondering if anyone out there has seen anything like this. the configurtion of my machine is seen below, and the problem is this.. I use this software called TipTop to call my school and dnload stuff. and what I've noticed is that when I try to do something (i.e. open large file for editing, run some program etc) what happens is that NS does not seem to service the modem DL promptly, I know that serial ports have very low priority under NS..but still... I get a lot of the messages like the one's below.. Apr 8 21:08:58 veakbladder mach: tty481: raw input overrun Apr 8 21:08:59 veakbladder last message repeated 6 times Apr 8 21:08:59 veakbladder mach: tty481: raw input overrun Apr 8 21:09:16 veakbladder last message repeated 7 times Apr 8 21:09:51 veakbladder mach: tty481: raw input overrun Apr 8 21:43:55 veakbladder mach: tty481: raw input overrun Apr 8 21:43:55 veakbladder mach: tty481: raw input overrun (yes, my machine is called veakbladder) anyways, and if I persist in running multiple programs, and moving the mouse around a lot, what happens is that the mouse goes crazy, the pointer retreats to the bottom left part of the screen and stays there, if I trys to move it, then it jumps all over the screen and things appear as if my mouse button is randomly clicked as well. the mouse is a Microsoft serial mouise hanginf off of com1, and the modem is an internal 14.4 using com2. well, I don't care how good of an OS NS is, if the mouse goes kaputt, then the machine is kaputt. the only thing that I can do is to do a control-alt-numlock (must be a ms-dos parody) to reboot my machine. The thing about it is that I've learned now that if those messages appear while I am down loading something, I stop using the mouse immediately and wait until the DL finishes amd all is merry and well, but then even windoz allows me to do other things while I am downloading, and I'd liek to thing that NS is just a bit superiro than windoza. does anyone know what I can do to rememdy this annoyance? oh, my serial port permissions is set by.. chmod ugo+rw /dev/cufb any suggestions at all? Thanks -- ********************************************************************* * David Wang | I collect Junk. Computer parts. * Senior EE - Computer Option | Email me if you have a dead Drive * University of Houston | I will buy Dead IDE's and SCSI's * (713)743-7589 | Dead monitors too... *--------------------------------------------------------------------. * NeXT mail welcome on cosc19va@simpsons.cc.uh.edu & also * dtw02348@tree.egr.uh.edu * NeXT mail not accepted at dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu *--------------------------------------------------------------------- * My White NeXT config... * 486 DX33 VLB Sis chipset * 20 Meg RAM * 420 Meg WD2420 IDE * 65 meg ST277N (DOS partition) * MS rodent hangin off of com1 * Aceex 14.4 Fax/Modem, internal, com2 (/dev/cufb) * adaptec 1742B & Sony541 CD-Rom * ATI GUP VLB with 2 meg VRAM 16 bit color@72Hz @1024 X768 * Mid-West Micro Elite 15" digital monitor 1024 X 768 *-----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Date: 9 Apr 1994 05:50:45 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 and C:). The drive came sealed in its box with NO software/disks of any kind. Should there have been a driver, or is this unnecesary since it is a SCSI device? The computer came from GW2K with the Adaptec card and SCSI HD installed but without any type of SCSI setup utility or any manuals associated with the Adaptec card. Should Gateway have packaged more SCSI support or documentation? I called GW2K tech support and they maintained that I should have gotten drivers with the CD-ROM drive. There is no support number for NEC to call in the drive documentation. If no one on the net has advice/knowledge to pass on, I'll try to track down NEC tech support. -Karl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Repair of broken SIMM socket Message-ID: <jscogginCnzLEs.FI9@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2n9k5l$nfb@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:06:27 GMT art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) sayz: ...trimmed... > Socket 0 (next to the power supply) has broken so that the SIMM leans >over toward the power supply and doesn't make good electrical contact with >the socket. It must have been thrown pretty hard to have caused this kind >of damage :-( The machine won't boot any longer (exception 3). If the >SIMM's in 0 and 1 are removed, it won't boot either (exception 2), >probably because memory must be installed in 0 and 1 (is this true?). The >system correctly reports memory in the sockets 2 - 7, but won't boot. > Has anyone ever replaced a plastic SIMM socket? Is it doable? Bell >Atlantic seems to do only board swaps which is a pretty expensive repair >for what is probably nothing more than physical damage to an inexpensive >part. Yep, I just had the SIMM sockets replaced on a Mac board. There are companies out there who do it for Macs. They might do your color station. I had a friend solder mine. The other alternative is to call AMP, the manufacture of the SIMM sockets, and ask for a catalog. When you get that, find the one you need (lots of *really* good mechanical diagrams and color pictures), then call for a free sample. That is how I got mine. Really nice people, but these are the kinds of parts they sell in the zillions, and I only needed 4. :-) If you can't find the number or you're really short on time. Drop me some mail, I'll grab the catalog and open up a color station. >--- >Art Isbell Cubic Solutions >NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting >NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 >USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 On a similar thread. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement DC-DC 12V to 9V 200ma isolated power converter used for the EtherNet power of a TurboColor station? As Art stated, Bell-Atlantic only does board swaps, at $800 a piece. Ouch. Looks like there might be a market for repairs... jerry jscoggin@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Double-headed Cube (multiple motherboards) Message-ID: <jscogginCnznMz.Hou@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2ncpna$3ap@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:54:34 GMT eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) sayz: >I recall that, a few years back, people were multiprocessing on their >Cubes, by having multiple motherboards in them, and applying a patch to >the OS. What benefit did this give? For instance, could I have my Cube >use two motherboards in it, and have the OS automagically split up my >tasks between them? (I'm having a bit of trouble explaining exactly >what I want here...do you get that idea?) > >Daniel Daniel, About all I can give you is a sanity check. Yep, I *heard* people did it. However, I never actually saw one, so I suppose it could be an old wifes tale. Yep, it would split up the task between the two. Mach is capable of multiply CPU's. Seems I also remember something about a software patch. Ever notice when you boot with the ROM monitor open, it goes something to the effect... Mach kernel version: NeXT Mach 3.2: Tue Sep 14 19:25:36 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.12.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K Kernel configured for a single processor only. 1 processor is physically available Processor type: MC680x0 (68040) Processor speed: 33 MHz Processor active: 0 System type: 5 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes. Good luck, Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Getting an 030 cube running Message-ID: <jscogginCnzu1D.JrM@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <mek-040494132817@ppp-7-20.bu.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:12:49 GMT mek@acs.bu.edu (Mark E. Kern) sayz: >I just purchased on 030 cube and have a few questions. The cube is the >standard 030/OD/40meg swap and comes with an external floppy drive (black). >It only has 8 megs of RAM, but I have an extra 8meg 72pin SIMM lying around >from my Mac Centris. What OS should I install? Is it worth it to try and >load 3.x? If so, do they sell 3.x on optical disk? If you don't plan to upgrade the motherboard, I'd recommend 2.1(2.2?)OS. If you plan to upgrade the OS, you'll most certainly have to upgrade the RAM. 16megs is good for 2.0, but not really enough for 3.0 Your 8meg 72pin SIMM won't work. If memory serves, the original cubes had 8 slots for 32pin SIMM's. They must be installed in quads, for a 32bit data path. Converning your last question about 3.x on optical, nope. CD-ROM, only. 2.0 was available on NeXT OD's and floppy(hundreds of them:-) Also, if you upgrade the motherboard to a turbo 040, the OD is no longer supported, so I was told. >Also, I have a 100 meg SCSI drive I'm not using. Would I get any speed >improvement if I installed it as a substitute for the 40 meg swap drive? >What if I just installed it as an extra drive and ran programs from it... Ideally, swap should be 3 times the real RAM. There is a chance the 40 in there is faster than your 100 and is probably sufficient, for the time being. If you don't have a HD now, YES hook up the 100. I wouldn't even consider running from the OD. I've done it before, YUK!! Probably NeXT's biggest mistake was thinking people could run the OS from the OD. Spend the bucks, get a real drive. A few hundred bucks will make a WORLD of difference. I suggest 300Megs, minimum. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. >-- >= pdcmarkus@aol.com >= mek@acs.bu >= simms@phantom.com >= Looking for old Pixar hardware and U.S. Acorn BBS machines Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com // Proud NeXT TurboColor owner
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Date: 9 Apr 1994 13:15:52 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o69q8$c7m@inxs.concert.net> References: <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec > 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as > SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 > and C:). > > The drive came sealed in its box with NO software/disks of any kind. > Should there have been a driver, or is this unnecesary since it is a > SCSI device? There should have been drivers in the box with the NEC for several different operating systems, not to include NSFIP. > The computer came from GW2K with the Adaptec card and SCSI HD installed > but without any type of SCSI setup utility or any manuals associated > with the Adaptec card. Should Gateway have packaged more SCSI support or > documentation? The Adaptec card has it's own bios and Gateway shipped you only a bare card, instead of the EZ-SCSI software which includes software drivers for the more popular types of hardware and OS's. > I called GW2K tech support and they maintained that I should have gotten > drivers with the CD-ROM drive. There is no support number for NEC to > call in the drive documentation. If no one on the net has > advice/knowledge to pass on, I'll try to track down NEC tech support. > NEC tech support maybe reached at 800.388.8888 and you can email us with any further specific questions. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Price of NeXT Slab? Message-ID: <jscogginCnzuoM.K5C@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2nq4a1$19c@crl.crl.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:26:45 GMT judson@crl.com (Michael Judson) sayz: >Somebody is interested in selling me a NeXT Slab with 20 Mb RAM and >a 1/2 Gb Eclipse Hard Disk. Including the monitor and keyboard, what >would be a fare price for this hardware? > >Thanks in advance for any pointers. Dancing Bear Enterprises buys and sells NeXT hardware. They send out catalogs, but mine is from Aug '93. You can reach them at: (714) 837-1175 (714) 837-1786 FAX 800-221-2217 info@dancingbear.com Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com you
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: 17" mono monitor recabling question Message-ID: <jscogginCnzvGo.KIF@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <nelson.765583790@puff.socsci.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:43:36 GMT nelson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (David Paul Nelson) sayz: >Has anyone successfully used a mono megapixel display with computers other >than Next? I am specifically wondering if I can use mine with a new >powerpc macintosh. The power macs support a variety of sync rates -- is >this the only relevant issue (aside from the actual cabling)? The quick answer is no. But I'm sure you want the long answer. :-) The mono-megapixel display is a single frequency display. It is *not* multi-sync. The timing used on the mono NeXT isn't compatible with any Macintosh standard timings, even with a graphics card. Some time ago, I was planning ago to get my 21" Color NeXT display to work with my Mac, however, to do so, I'd have to dial in the timings on my video card. Since I work for Radius, that isn't such a problem. :-) However, my biggest roadblock was finding the 3W13 connector used on the Color displays. Also, I planned to use it in conjunction with my Mac, using a switch box. However, unless the switch box is of good quality, you'll get ghosting. Impedances, *must* match. But then I decided it was much easier to borrow a display. :-) Sorry... However, if you are the major hacker, you might be able to write a driver that would replace Apple's BIV driver, program the synthesizer and get it to work. >If anyone has any experience or ideas about this, please let me know! > >David >nelson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com
From: fishman@panix.com (Harvey Fishman) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Date: 9 Apr 1994 11:06:41 -0400 Organization: The Universal Church of the Inner Darkness Message-ID: <2o6ga1$pmo@panix.com> References: <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> In <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) says > I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec > 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as > SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 > and C:). > > The drive came sealed in its box with NO software/disks of any kind. > Should there have been a driver, or is this unnecesary since it is a > SCSI device? > > The computer came from GW2K with the Adaptec card and SCSI HD installed > but without any type of SCSI setup utility or any manuals associated > with the Adaptec card. Should Gateway have packaged more SCSI support or > documentation? > > I called GW2K tech support and they maintained that I should have gotten > drivers with the CD-ROM drive. There is no support number for NEC to > call in the drive documentation. If no one on the net has > advice/knowledge to pass on, I'll try to track down NEC tech support. If you buy the NEC CDROM reader with their SCSI host adapter (a Trantor which is a division of Adaptec) then you get drivers. But the Adaptec AHA-1542CF is not sold by NEC and therefore there are no drivers from them. If you call NEC, they will say that you need the EZ-SCSI driver kit from Adaptec, which Gateway sort of should have included in their package. ****BUT**** that would have raised Gateway's price as the Adaptec driver package is a priced item. It is both sold separately and included in kits with the host adapters. Typical good street pricing has a $50 difference between the bare host adapter and the same with the Adaptec driver package. The bare card includes default fixed disk drivers for DOS (and booting other operating systems) in the onboard ROM. I do not think that anyone is really to blame here other than that Gateway should have made it clear to you that you might need the additional ($$) drivers to use things beyond the fixed disk. If you really want to do this then you are going to have to buy that dirver package, but it is really a good investment as it has a wide variety of drivers in there for many devices and operating systems. Another driver package that you might want to investigate is CorelSCSI, which costs a bit more but has an even wider variety of drivers. One thing that you must make sure of if you purchase CorelSCSI is that it comes with ASPI4DOS.SYS. This is the basic driver half that goes from the Adaptec hardware to an intermediate standard interface that other drivers wed to. At the time that I purchased CorelSCSI several years ago, it did not include the ASPI4DOS and I had to purchase it separately. But I have heard that they now include it, BUT be DAMNED sure before you buy as you will be just plain damned if it is not there. Oh, Adaptec also sells kits that include both EZ-SCSI and CorelSCSI with the host adapter. Typical street prices for these are about $100 above the bare card. I have an Adaptec AHA-1542B which is now about four and a half years old. I am still very happy with it. I presently use it with a Quantum PD1225S fixed disk and a NEC CDR-84 CDROM reader under OS/2 and DOS. Under OS/2 I use the drivers that are supplied by IBM (but built by Adaptec), and under DOS I use older Adaptec drivers that were sold before the first release of EZ-SCSI. These are ASW-1410 and ASW-410. They are old, but they work and I never saw any reason$ to upgrade. Harvey -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harvey Fishman | There is no greater failure than fishman@panix.com | that of making an enemy. 718-258-7276 |
From: conradtj@yvax.byu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Message-ID: <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> Date: 9 Apr 94 09:29:27 -0700 References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> Organization: Brigham Young University In article <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU>, wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce) writes: > Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying > "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" > > I kind of suspect there would be many. > > count me in I would also be very interested in being able to choose NS for my Power Macintosh, if for no other reason than having an alternative. Jon Conradt CONRADTJ@YVAX.BYU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: 17" color monitor repaired !!! Message-ID: <1994Apr9.145350.2986@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 14:53:50 GMT Hi NeXTland, Couple of days ago someone from Haiti, if I remember right, posted about his 17" NeXTstation monitor, (the type made by Philips in Saronno Italy). I had similar problems, but not as bad as his, and today I managed to repair it. So I think it is a good idea to share my experiences. My problem consisted of a screen that when the monitor warmed up, suddenly would become 1-2 inch larger (only horizontal). This resulted in half disappearing of the dock and the menu's. Because of the termal characteristic and the fact that a good manual bang on the side sometimes fixed a for a short period, I concluded that a bad connector would be the most probable cause. So I opened the case, this is rather easy part. Put the monitor with the screen down (on a towel) on the table and unscrew 2 screws to get the black plastic cap off. Next you must unscrew app. 10 screws to get the top perforated metal plate off. Next I tried to fix the problem by pulling and pressing all connectors, but that didn't help. It became clear that fault was in the print mounted at the left side. This one contains both the low-voltage ampliphiers, but also the HIGH-VOLTAGE transformer. So, take care. Don't touch it with your hands or a metal screw driver when the monitor is on. When I wanted to put pressure on certain parts, I used a 30cm plastic ruler. I had to go one step further. So I pulled all the wires with connectors to the print (the one at the left). By unscrewing one more screw at the outside that fixes the high voltage transformer, you can slide out the print. You also have to unfix the (high voltage) wire to the glass tube. Do this very carefull. Wait at least a couple of minutes after you have switched the monitor off. One wire to enother print (at the back of the tube) has no connectors, so you will not be able to get the print 100% loose. But OK enough for close inspection of both sides. My problem was caused by a bad soldered pin (of a resistor). It took me half a day to find it by the way. Repair was after that rather simple. Just use a good soldering iron and fresh solder. The print is nothing spectacular: one sided copper patterns and no SMD, so rather traditional which is good news for amateur repair. Fitting everything together, is rather simple. But don't forget a wire. Check and check again, before you swith the monitor on. At the same time you can use the opportunity to adjust when necessary the hor/ver size and shift controls. My advise to the other poster: open your monitor, get that print out and check very carefuly all pins. When any doubt, it doesn't harm to solder the pin again. But I realize that it is quite good possible that in your situation the problems are caused by something completely different. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: dsb@mbunix.mitre.org (Scott Blodgett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: Sat, 09 Apr 1994 11:49:04 -0400 Organization: The MITRE Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <dsb-090494114904@blodgett.mitre.org> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <dellis-090494015114@bellevue-ip2.halcyon.com> In article <dellis-090494015114@bellevue-ip2.halcyon.com>, dellis@halcyon.com (David L. Ellis) wrote: > > > > I kind of suspect there would be many. > > > > count me in > > > > I am heartily throwing my vote in here too. A P-Mac port would make me a > NEXTSTEP Customer. > > David This boy would buy tommorow. Scott Blodgett The MITRE Corporation dsb@mbunix.mitre.org B-2 Mission Planning Systems Burlington Road, M/S R215 Bedford, MA 01730 ÒWhen I was your age I had to walk to the TVÓ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Re: NEC MultiSpin 3Xp CD-ROM Drive? Message-ID: <rscottCnzzsM.CIz@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2o45m7INN61l@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 15:17:10 GMT In article <2o45m7INN61l@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu writes: >Does the NEC MultiSpin 3Xp CD-ROM Drive work with a >NeXTstation Color (25MHz)? I need a Drive for less >than $500, but works with both Mac PowerBooks and >NeXTs. Any suggestions and/or impressions of the >product or a similar product are aprreciated? >Will I notice a difference in the performance between >triple-speed and double-speed (Apple CD300)? >Thank you. >-- >Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 >Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan >2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069 >wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly I read in Mac User that the NEC 3x CD-ROM shipped with] the 2x driver and does not run 3x faster than a single speed. This relates to transfer rates, not to physical spin rate. In some cases it was only 5 percent faster or even slower than a 2x. BTW - are they forever going to be naming CD-ROM drives with a comparison number to the slowest drives ever made. Gee - my machine runs 1000x times faster than an 8088 - I think I'll call it the Intel 'thousand times faster' bread box. :-) Charlie Dvorak
From: acs_goray@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: scanners, SCSI and terminators Message-ID: <1994Apr9.125209.3893@rivers> Date: 9 Apr 94 12:52:09 -0600 Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls hi i have recently entered the wonderful world of SCSI by borrowing an abatron scanner for my NeXT slab. the thing is, i haven't gotten to work yet. by reading docs and various things, i think i need something called a SCSI terminator. can anyone elaborate on what this is, how to use it, and where i might aquire one at a good price? if so, thank you, if not, thanks anyway jason.goray@uwrf.edu --
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Double-headed Cube (multiple motherboards) Date: 9 Apr 1994 20:50:28 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o74ek$3i9@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <jscogginCnznMz.Hou@netcom.com> In article <jscogginCnznMz.Hou@netcom.com> jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) writes: > eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) sayz: > >I recall that, a few years back, people were multiprocessing on their > >Cubes, by having multiple motherboards in them, and applying a patch to > >the OS. What benefit did this give? For instance, could I have my Cube > >use two motherboards in it, and have the OS automagically split up my > >tasks between them? (I'm having a bit of trouble explaining exactly > >what I want here...do you get that idea?) > Yep, I *heard* people did it. However, I never actually saw one, so I > suppose it could be an old wifes tale. Yep, it would split up the task > between the two. Mach is capable of multiply CPU's. Seems I also remember > something about a software patch. I don't think NeXTSTEP in its current shipping incarnations supports multiple processors. The framwork is there but it hasn't been implemented. I believe Sam Goldbeger at Spherical Solutions still offers his Enhanced Processing Board modification. This involves the addition of an '030 board, modification of the backplane, some cabling and custom software. What you get is 2 Workspaces and two networked computers in a single Cube, not multiprocessing. It may work with an '040 board, too. There are advantages to this approach: for less than the cost of a second NS computer, you get an additional rendering engine, mail server, etc. Not so good as a print server, though. Contact Sam for more info (smg@orb.com) Cheers,
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: 9 Apr 1994 21:17:05 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o760h$kql@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <dsb-090494114904@blodgett.mitre.org> dsb@mbunix.mitre.org (Scott Blodgett) writes: > dellis@halcyon.com (David L. Ellis) wrote: > > > > > > I kind of suspect there would be many. > > > > > > count me in > > > > > > > I am heartily throwing my vote in here too. A P-Mac port would make > > me a NEXTSTEP Customer. > > > > David > > This boy would buy tommorow. This boy works with Macs a lot, so a machine which could do both NeXTSTEP and MacOS would be great (note that I'd need some easy way to switch between them, as I really would be using both). Presumably hardware with PCI cards instead of NuBus. I just bought an NS/Intel box though, and so it probably wouldn't be until January 1995 that I could afford to buy another machine. It would be particularly wonderfully ideal if this could all fit in a PowerPC-based Powerbook-Duo type machine. The portable part would only have to be one OS or the other, but if I could then plug it into a dock to get the other OS then it'd be really great. On the other hand, my bank account needs to recover, so I'm not exactly in any rush here... Even to do it in January I'd probably need to take out a loan, but it'd be tempting enough that I'd be likely to do it. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Flash!) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Originator: news@lafcol Sender: usenet@Lehigh.EDU Message-ID: <1994Apr9.215416.27643@Lehigh.EDU> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:54:16 GMT References: <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> Organization: Lehigh University Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Bryce (wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu) wrote: : Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying : "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" The way the PMacs are right now, and with Apple's indecisivness about PReP you couldn't force me to buy a PMac. If they released a version of NeXT Step for a PPC machine (which I am EXTREMELY eager for) I would want it to be an IBM Personal PPC. I realize they don't exist yet but, at least they are committed to an open standard. I - Hate - Apples selfish proprietary nature. I'll buy a PMAC when they are Commited to an Open standard. ] All hail NeXTStep. -- smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: 9 Apr 1994 22:43:19 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2o7b27$4uu@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <dsb-090494114904@blodgett.mitre.org> <2o760h$kql@usenet.rpi.edu> >> > > I kind of suspect there would be many. >> > > count me in >> > I am heartily throwing my vote in here too. A P-Mac port would make >> > me a NEXTSTEP Customer. Question: If you are so interested in NeXTSTEP, why haven't you bought it already? -- Be sure to vote *YES* on rec.music.menudo!
From: wtang0@.stern.nyu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: dat tape drive Message-ID: <61630@sales.STERN.NYU.EDU> Date: 9 Apr 94 18:29:49 GMT Sender: wtang0@sales.STERN.NYU.EDU Distribution: usa Organization: NYU Stern School of Business Is their someone in the new york city area that can lend their dat tape drive to me or perhaps copy a 4mm tape of mine onto disks? I would really appreciate this if anyone can either perform this kind of service or make suggestions regarding this. thanks a lot for your help. anthony
From: pas@phantom.com (Paul Shetler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 9 Apr 1994 23:20:30 GMT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Message-ID: <2o7d7v$itr@dockmaster.phantom.com> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> conradtj@yvax.byu.edu wrote: : In article <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU>, wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce) writes: : > Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying : > "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" : > : > I kind of suspect there would be many. : > : > count me in : I would also be very interested in being able to choose NS for my Power : Macintosh, if for no other reason than having an alternative. Count me in, too! I'm currently running NeXTstep on a Compaq; but I would love to be able to run it in my PMac at work. We're currently planning on putting in lots of PPCs at the Bank, and we are also putting in lots of NeXTStep '486 boxes too. A PPC version of NeXTstep would interest a _lot_ of my users.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) Subject: Re: Double-headed Cube (multiple motherboards) Message-ID: <abellCo0Mvx.LC8@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <2ncpna$3ap@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <jscogginCnznMz.Hou@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:35:57 GMT jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) writes: >eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) sayz: >>I recall that, a few years back, people were multiprocessing on their >>Cubes, by having multiple motherboards in them, and applying a patch to >>the OS. What benefit did this give? For instance, could I have my Cube >>use two motherboards in it, and have the OS automagically split up my >>tasks between them? (I'm having a bit of trouble explaining exactly >>what I want here...do you get that idea?) >Yep, I *heard* people did it. However, I never actually saw one, so I >suppose it could be an old wifes tale. Yep, it would split up the task >between the two. Mach is capable of multiply CPU's. Nope. The multiple-CPU stuff happens when the kernel is compiled. Running multiprocessors effectively requires a hardware design that's built for it, not just putting another CPU in the box. There are lots of people running multiple motherboards, however. It functions basically as another machine on a network; they get used as printservers and OD drivers, mainly. Send mail to sam@orb.com if you want to do this. Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Message-ID: <1994Apr9.235242.7095@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <1994Apr9.215416.27643@Lehigh.EDU> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:52:42 GMT In article <1994Apr9.215416.27643@Lehigh.EDU> smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Flash!) writes: >>Bryce (wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu) wrote: >>: Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying >>: "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" >> >> The way the PMacs are right now, and with Apple's indecisivness about >>PReP you couldn't force me to buy a PMac. If they released a version of NeXT >>Step for a PPC machine (which I am EXTREMELY eager for) I would want it to >>be an IBM Personal PPC. I realize they don't exist yet but, at least they are >>committed to an open standard. I - Hate - Apples selfish proprietary >>nature. I'll buy a PMAC when they are Commited to an Open standard. >>] Umm, it's rather important at this stage of the PowerPC game to realize that PReP was a total surprise to Apple. I have it on good authority from reasonably high up buddies at Apple that the whole thing caught Apple with their mouth hanging open. The worst part is that once Apple engineers starting poring over the spec, they found a bunch of problems building Macintoshs to the spec (i.e. the spec was lame). I would expect there to be another rev of the spec and Apple, potentially, building some version of their hardware that satisfies it, assuming they can un-lame the portion of the spec they have problems with. Actually, as a business move, I didn't think IBM was smart enough to pull a move like this, especially given the drubbing they've taken in their business partnership (think about it; IBM got into Taligent and Kaleida, and Apple got PowerPC, who do you think got a better deal?). If IBM is smart, they will guard the PReP spec enough that Apple will continue to be dissatisfied, and Apple will continue to look like the bad guy... Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of Apple's management, but I do like their hardware, and I'd love to see NS running on it, but it's ill-informed to drag Apple over the coals about non-PReP compliance when they never had the opportunity to comply in the first place... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) Subject: NS/fip on a notebook with docking station/expansion chasis Message-ID: <1994Apr10.011114.29331@afit.af.mil> Keywords: notebook nextstep installation problems Sender: news@afit.af.mil Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 01:11:14 GMT Has anyone had any experience installing NeXTSTEP fip on a Notebook with a docking station or expansion chasis. I am trying to install it on a Gateway Nomand 486DX2 notebook with an Axonix Lapstation IV expansion chasis. In the expansion chasis is a 1 gig Micropolis hard drive, DPT 2021/95 ISA SCSI controller card and a Toshiba XM3401B CD-ROM drive. My problem is that when I begin the installation using the install floppy, the program says it cannot find the SCSI card and therefore the CD-ROM drive. The expansion chasis is simply an extension of the ISA bus so I can't figure out what the problem might be. The DPT card is configured as recommended in the installation notes from ftp.next.com. Incidently the whole setup works just fine under DOS/Windoze. Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated. -- Eric Baenen -------------------------------------------------------------------- Resident NeXTSTEP fanatic at the Air Force Institute of Technology --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com (Bob Jones) Message-ID: <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead> Subject: Building Swapdisk Date: Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:05 -0400 id AA26617; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:35:55 -0700 id UAA29315; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:35:24 -0700 id AA10216; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:24:03 -0400 id AA00470; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:05 -0400 I recently added a large external drive to my slab and I am trying to figure out how to use the 105 internal for a swap disk. Changing the default file location in /etc/swaptab didn't seem to work - the system hung on reboot. Librarian say to use BuildDisk and it will tell by the size that you want this to be a swapdisk, however I think that is something left over from the old days with the cubes and their 40mb swapdisks. If someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. TIA -Bob (bob@id.com) NeXTmail gladly accepted :-)
From: nturner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Nelson Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP! ROM Monitor SNAFU Date: 10 Apr 1994 05:03:56 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2o81bs$obd@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> I'm an idiot. Being stricken with a dangerous curiosity, I was poking around in the ROM monitor on my mono Station, and I'm afraid I screwed something up. I may have accidently set the system register intrmask to some bogus value, but I'm not sure, since I have no idea what the correct value is. Anyway, the symptom is that I get a reboot failure message every time I reboot the computer, saying that the file /dev/rsd0a has a "bad file type." I ran fsck which confirmed the problem and claimed to fix it, but it happened again on the next reboot. The problem is not fatal - the computer gets itself into single user mode and then I can manually get it into multi-user mode, but every now and then I get a message like "I/O Error" when trying to do something like eject a disk. If no one has any better ideas, could someone at least run the ROM monitor on their own Station and let me know what hex word appears when you type "s intrmask". Maybe that's all I need. Thanks a million. Trey Turner nturner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone Tried the New Dot Matrix Drivers on an InkJet Date: 10 Apr 1994 01:02:05 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2o818d$217@search01.news.aol.com> References: <1994Apr7.224037.23312@sol.UVic.CA> In article <1994Apr7.224037.23312@sol.UVic.CA>, gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) writes: I've been trying to get the 550C to work with a black pizza box but all that happens is for the first line of text to print with garbage, then feed all the rest of the paper in the loader without any more printing. So far I have not found anyone who has actually gotten the HP 550C to work. If any one has, please contact me for what the magic is.
From: yrlee@shephard.berkeley.edu (Yee Richard Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Date: 10 Apr 1994 05:46:15 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Sender: yrlee@uclink.berkeley.edu. Message-ID: <2o83r7$fmq@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> <2o7d7v$itr@dockmaster.phantom.com> In article <2o7d7v$itr@dockmaster.phantom.com> pas@phantom.com (Paul Shetler) writes: > conradtj@yvax.byu.edu wrote: > : wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce) writes: > : > Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying > : > "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" > Count me in, too! Well, from the student standpoint -- I can count at least a dozen of my peers who know and use NeXTStep at school (on vintage NeXTcubes no less!) and I think all of us would jump at the chance to run it at home on our Macs... There would have to be some provision to run current Mac software through NeXTStep, of course... -YRL -- Industrial Engineers do it better, faster, and for less money... Yee Richard Lee yrlee@shephard.berkeley.edu Industrial Engineering & Operations Research University of California, Berkeley
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: 10 Apr 1994 06:53:29 GMT Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o87p9$hda@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> In article <2o7b27$4uu@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) writes: Question: If you are so interested in NeXTSTEP, why haven't you bought it already? Some folks don't have the 2500 dollars to spend on an operating system that: A.) May not survive another two years B.) Requires a steep learning curve coming from other non-OOP environments C.) Requires far more hardware than they currently already have D.) Doesn't run the apps they need E.) Supports building apps natively with Objective-C and C++ only through some pretty hacked bindings. I'm in the same boat as the poster you were replying to. I like NeXTStep a LOT, but I only have a 486DX/33 w/ 8MB RAM and ISA SVGA. That's just not enough for NeXTStep. I also work on very important data on this machine and don't have the time nor inclination to experiment with a new operating system if it means that it interferes with my other work. So I hang out on c.s.n.* and read what others have to say. I read NeXTWorld, and check out what's available. And while NS/Fip would "only" cost me about 300 bucks since I'm an educational buyer, that's still not a small amount of cash if you are only "interested" and not completely sold. Brian "If I had my druthers I'd have a 4-processor PPC Nextstation" Hook
From: gjditchf@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Glen Ditchfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info wanted on DEClaser 1152 and HP LaserJet 4ML printers Date: 10 Apr 1994 03:05:44 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o7qe8$cfk@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Has anyone out there connected a NeXTstation to a DECLaser 1152 or an HP LaserJet 4ML? What did you have to do to get them working together? Any advice you can give me will be appreciated. Glen Ditchfield gjditchf@cs.umanitoba.ca (204) 275-6745 Get a life -- before it gets you!
From: srenker@cc.emory.edu (Stephen Renker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 10 Apr 1994 03:17:02 -0400 Organization: Emory University Sender: news@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu Message-ID: <2o895e$dt9@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <CnsuGA.KwD@cix.compulink.co.uk> <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> > the correct capitalization?) on top of Solaris was likely (if not > definite). She did leave it open as to whether enough noise could be made > to coerce NeXT into a direct port so we don't have to rely on the > vagaries of Sun and the weaknesses of Solaris. -- On top of Solaris?! What in the Sam Hill is this? Listen up, NeXT: There are two things I will have nothing further to do with: Intel hardware and Sun software. After seeing our continuous problems with NFS in the labs here I could never let anybody I know spend money on OpenStep. And I'm not going to pay a price premium for a Pentium just to run NextStep. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Renker PO Box 22026 finger/mail: srenker@unix.cc.emory.edu Emory University talk: srenker@dooley.cc.emory.edu Atlanta GA 30322-1001 USA --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Operated by professionals, do not try at home, see your dealer for details. Your mileage may vary. Call before digging. Best if eaten by date on package. Apply only to affected area. Batteries not included. Member FDIC. "There are only three different kinds of people: Those who can count, and those who can't." -- Tom Lehrer, teaching "The Nature of Math", 4/13/90
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann) Subject: RE: Building Swapdisk Message-ID: <1994Apr10.075311.2671@rafa.in-berlin.de> Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de Organization: DRN References: <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 07:53:11 GMT Hi, the only thing you've got to do is to label (call) the disk swapdisk. It will be automounted to /private and all work is done:-) You don't have to touch the /etc/fstab at all!!! Ralf In article <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead> thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com (Bob Jones) writes: > I recently added a large external drive to my slab and I am trying to figure out how to use > the 105 internal for a swap disk. Changing the default file location in /etc/swaptab didn't > seem to work - the system hung on reboot. Librarian say to use BuildDisk and it will tell by > the size that you want this to be a swapdisk, however I think that is something left over > from the old days with the cubes and their 40mb swapdisks. > > If someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. TIA > > -Bob (bob@id.com) > > NeXTmail gladly accepted :-) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% *| Ralf Neumann | ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de | Try NeXTmail please! |* *| ************ | Voice +49 30 / 321 78 84 | Fax +49 30 / 321 28 68|*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Building Swapdisk Message-ID: <1994Apr10.124507.11409@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 12:45:07 GMT In article <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead> thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com (Bob Jones) writes: > I recently added a large external drive to my slab and I am trying to figure out how to use > the 105 internal for a swap disk. Changing the default file location in /etc/swaptab didn't > seem to work - the system hung on reboot. Librarian say to use BuildDisk and it will tell by > the size that you want this to be a swapdisk, however I think that is something left over > from the old days with the cubes and their 40mb swapdisks. Give it a disk label of 'swapdisk'. It should be automatically recognised. You might also want to set a highwatermark on your /private/vm/swapfile. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help - Quantum Prodrive 1800S Date: 10 Apr 1994 11:10:08 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <199404101510.LAA24403@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> We recently bought a Quantum Prodrive 1800S (1.8 gig). We cannot get the NeXT to like it. We have tried it in a 68030 cube and a 68040 slab. It will send back it's ID and the computers can tell what kind of disk it is but it will not initialize. We used sdformat and were able to reformat the drive with no errors but that didn't help any. We are looking for suggestions, solutions or best guesses. Any help would be appreciated. Please reply via email if you have any ideas. Thank You, Joe and Mike -- __________ | NeXTMail? We can do NeXTMail!!! | |___) | """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" \_/OE | \EISS | Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was `---- | hard to write, it should be hard to read.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info wanted on DEClaser 1152 and HP LaserJet 4ML printers Date: 10 Apr 1994 15:08:14 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2o94ou$bvo@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2o7qe8$cfk@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> In article <2o7qe8$cfk@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>, Glen Ditchfield <gjditchf@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca> wrote: >Has anyone out there connected a NeXTstation to a DECLaser 1152 or an HP >LaserJet 4ML? What did you have to do to get them working together? Any >advice you can give me will be appreciated. > The 4ML works fine on Intel using the parallel port. To control all the printing options correctly you want to get the PPD file and load it onto the NeXT. The only problem here is that it's not on any FTP site and the bozo's at HP don't know what the heck you are asking for when you call them up (" I'm sorry sir this printer works only under Windows or Mac....."). The workaround is to take the Mac disks provided with the unit (720K, unreadable by anything but a Mac) to a Mac, dig around for the PPD file, convert it to ascii text (I used Wordperfect on Mac for this, your mileage may vary) and transfer it over to your NeXT (1.4 mb floppy, kermit, ftp.. whatever you manage). Other than this hassle, it works perfectly for me. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Subject: Memory for Turbo Color: some question Message-ID: <Co02xt.1yz@galileo.pr.net.ch> Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 16:25:05 GMT Just some question about memory: 1) About DRAM modules position in slots, will this configuration works: slot#1 slot#2 slot#3 slot#4 8MB 8MB 16MB 16MB or need to move so: 16MB 16MB 8MB 8MB 2) About parity checking: the two modules (8MB + 8MB) I have received with my station supports parity checking ? Is it _important_ ? 3) About DSP memory: where can I find a SRAM SIMM module to increase my DSP memory from 24 to 96 Kbytes ? How can I ask my station about the current amount of this memory ? Thank you for any info ! Stefano -- Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064 NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Subject: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Message-ID: <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 16:39:30 GMT Hello ! I have a CD-ROM SCSI driver connected to my Station. When I don t use it, I turn it off, but the Console will give me every second this message: sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0 Is there a way to avoid that (without to turn the driver on :-) Thank you for any info... Stefano -- Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064 NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Message-ID: <1994Apr10.153156.11943@seer.demon.co.uk> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2o87p9$hda@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:31:56 GMT In article <2o87p9$hda@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) writes: > In article <2o7b27$4uu@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) writes: > Question: > > If you are so interested in NeXTSTEP, why haven't you bought > it already? > > Some folks don't have the 2500 dollars to spend on an operating system > that: If you are academic, it is $299; else you buy it for $995. > A.) May not survive another two years Are you kidding? OpenStep is guaranteed that. > B.) Requires a steep learning curve coming from other non-OOP environments > C.) Requires far more hardware than they currently already have > D.) Doesn't run the apps they need Big deal. Resource requirements are no more than Solaris or NT, currently. If you want to run a bigger/better OS, upgrade. And take the time to learn it. If you know any Unix, there isn't a big learning curve, either (except to develop). So what apps do you NEED? If you want legacy apps, run them under SoftPC or Executor; or you could even reboot into Windows if you don't like the emulation/performance. And the NeXT apps available are excellent. Having said that, I guess I agree with your conclusion; it was the route that I disagree with. If you don't need NeXTSTEP, for whatever reason, don't use it. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Bad dumps from a bad powersupply? Date: 10 Apr 1994 12:21:21 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9404101717.AA01488@cantina.lanl.gov> In the last few days I find that I often come in mornings to find my Epson NX, running NS3.2, in a frozen state. The crashes occur sometime during my nightly backup, using the dump utility, at 4:05 AM. To get back to a working computer necessitates a reboot, and lately one in which the automatic fsck fails. So, from single-user-mode, I have to do TWO manual fscks to get a clean hard disk and a good reboot. Why now? -- this machine is six months old. And why the somewhat slow degradation? -- it doesn't happen all the time. Now, it seems a bit hard to believe there's a connection, but it is known that the Epson NX computers, at least the early versions, have been plagued with flakey power supplies. In fact, the original in my machine has been replaced once (under warranty). I was assuming that the problem had been cured for me with that replacement, but now I don't know. Can a flakey power supply crash a dump? Supporting evidence (?): I have now seen two occasions when I log in and the hard disk activity (and there's a lot of that at login) drops out for a while. It sounds like the disk is momentarily turned off, then like it starts spinning up again, and eventually the clicking sounds of head seeks resumes. The situation for dump-utility backup might be similar, with a lot of disk activity. Dick Silbar WhistleSoft, Inc. Voice: 505-662-7309, Fax: 505-662-7601 Nextmail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (fwd) Znyx now has multi-port PCI Ethernet Adapters Date: 10 Apr 1994 12:40:46 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9404101733.AA03809@proxima.com> Any takers on a driver for this? -Eric [ forwarded from comp.newprod ] Newsgroups: comp.newprod From: aland@netcom.com (Alan Deikman) Subject: Znyx now has multi-port PCI Ethernet Adapters Date: Tue, 05 Apr 1994 23:16:49 CDT Organization: Znyx Advanced Systems Division, Inc. After shipping the industry's first PCI Ethernet Adapter, the EtherAction (TM) ZX312, Znyx has follwed up with the new EtherAction ZX314, the first multi-channel PCI Ethernet Adapter. With this product, system integrators can configure systems with four independent, 32-bit, full-duplex Ethernet Adapters in a single PCI slot. The ZX314 is fully compliant with the PCI standard, consuming only two "bus loads," which is standard for PCI add-in cards. The ZX314 appears to the host system as four ZX312 boards, each including 256 byte input and output FIFOs, and bus mastering with burst transfers at 132 megabytes/second. Each of the four ports may be configured and utilized in a completely independent fashion, according to the capabilities of the host operating system. Software drivers are provided for all major server operating systems, including the following: * Novell NetWare 3.11 * Novell NetWare 3.12 * Novell NetWare 4.x * Microsoft LAN Manager * IBM LAN Server * Microsoft Windows-for-Workgroups * Microsoft Windows/NT * SCO UNIX * Univel UNIX * SunSoft ISC UNIX * SunSoft Solaris Other drivers are scheduled for release by Q3, 1994. The SRP of the ZX314 is $995 US, and includes a 3-year warranty. Inquire at the address/numbers below. -- Alan Deikman | 510 249 0800 V | 48501 Warm Springs Blvd | ZNYX alan@znyx.com | 510 656 2460 F | Fremont, CA 94539 | Advanced Systems | | USA | Division, Inc. -- Eric Litman Proxima, Inc. vox: (703) 506.1661 Systems Engineer McLean, VA elitman+@proxima.com echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb3135071790101768542287578439snlbxq'|dc
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 From: clenahan@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Charlie Lenahan) Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Message-ID: <Co21zB.o05@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:59:35 GMT References: <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> <2o6ga1$pmo@panix.com> Organization: Purdue University Computing Center In article <2o6ga1$pmo@panix.com> fishman@panix.com (Harvey Fishman) writes: >In <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) says > >> I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec >> 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as >> SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 >> and C:). I believe all you need is the MSDEX (sp.) driver that comes with DOS. You put this in the autoexec.bat and that allows you to have a drive letter for the CD drive. You might also have to load a file in the config.sys for certain types of drives. All I know is that I have this guy at work 'rem' out that line to free up conventional mem since he might go a week without the drive. could be wrong.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Date: 10 Apr 1994 20:32:44 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2o9npc$cve@Times.Stanford.EDU> I got a great response to my initial post about where the drivers were supposed to be to allow me to use my new SCSI CD-ROM drive. The synopsys is that sometimes driver bundles are shipped with SCSI controller cards and sometimes not, but they usually aren't shipped with the CD-ROM drive itself. The Adaptec 1542CF I got with my computer from Gateway didn't have them, so I went out and bought CorelSCSI, a commercial package of drivers and lots of other nice utilities (about $95, I got it at Fry's, you can also get the Adaptec drivers that come in the EZ kit for about $50 supposedly). If you are about to buy a SCSI controller: make sure you get one which includes drivers for more than just an HD (the Adaptec EZ bundles have both the card and the drivers) or be prepared to buy some separately to use anything but an HD. Gateway customers getting SCSI: be aware that the card comes bare from them (drivers for the HD, but not enough for SCSI CD-ROM, tape, etc.) so you'll have to buy the drivers too. I'm not upset by this since I think they charge a very reasonable amount for the SCSI HD upgrade and throw in the card for not a lot extra. I am upset by the fact that they should make this more clear. Since they sell no SCSI peripherals like CD-ROM, tape drive, etc. I think they are a bit confused about the whole thing themselves. Tech. support told me the drivers should have come with the CD-ROM drive. Anyway, thanx to all those who responded. I posted at 11pm on a Fri. night and had 4 or 5 responses waiting for me in my mailbox the next morning as well as some in the newsgroups. LOVE THE NET!!! -Karl Unfiltered responses follow, in case you want to read the details: --------------------- From <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:dseitel@crl.com> Fri Apr 8 23:52:17 1994 Return-Path: <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:dseitel@crl.com> Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [36.28.0.25]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA20423 for <kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU>; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 23:52:12 -0700 Received: from crl.com by Xenon.Stanford.EDU with SMTP (5.61+IDA/25-CS-eef) id AA29443; Fri, 8 Apr 94 23:52:10 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA26258 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 23:51:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 23:51:08 -0700 From: David S Eitelbach <dseitel@crl.com> Message-Id: <199404090651.AA26258@crl.crl.com> To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Cc: dseitel@crl.com Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Organization: crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Status: OR In article <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> you wrote: : I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec : 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as : SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 : and C:). : The drive came sealed in its box with NO software/disks of any kind. : Should there have been a driver, or is this unnecesary since it is a : SCSI device? Karl, You can reach NEC tech support at 800-388-8888. They're in Massachusetts. Early morning seemed a good time. They're open 8:30 am to 7:30 pm. The toll number is 508-264-8000. They also have a BBS which has drivers at 508-635-4705 or 4706. The "Fast-Facts" (fax) number is 800-366-0476. The regular fax is 508-635-4666. I recommend you don't send a fax. The one time I did, they ignored me. If you call tech support, press 2 for tech support, then 2 for CDs, then 2 again, as I recall. I have a 2x NEC 84-1 and my system is a bit different from yours, so I could be off-base here, but seems to me you must have a driver. David Eitelbach -- "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H. L. Mencken From <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:arsenal!captain@msen.com> Sat Apr 9 01:50:24 1994 Return-Path: <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:arsenal!captain@msen.com> Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [36.28.0.25]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA20710 for <kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 01:50:18 -0700 Received: from heifetz.msen.com by Xenon.Stanford.EDU with SMTP (5.61+IDA/25-CS-eef) id AA05072; Sat, 9 Apr 94 01:50:13 -0700 Received: from arsenal.UUCP by heifetz.msen.com with UUCP (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0ppYfA-000ZWsC; Sat, 9 Apr 94 04:45 EDT Received: by arsenal.com (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA00754; Sat, 9 Apr 94 03:28:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 94 03:28:23 -0500 From: "Andrew T. Foster" <msen!arsenal!captain@relay1.uu.net> Message-Id: <9404090828.AA00754@arsenal.com> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Reply-To: arsenal!arsenal.com!captain@relay1.uu.net Status: OR In comp.sys.next.hardware article <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> you wrote: > I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec > 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as > SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 > and C:). Howdy, You should have received drivers with the Gateway machine. These drivers are the bare minimum for the Adaptec to read the CD_ROM drives presence. If you want to do PhotoCD, etc. under Windows, you have to BUY the upgrade. Its really insane. It'll cost you a little over $100 to get the drivers from Adaptec. The other solution is to purchase Corel SCSI II for $99 from PConnection (800-800-NEXT). A much better solution and it'll give you a ton of utilities. Later! - C -- _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Knight Enterprises - A Film/Video Production Company _/_/_/ C. Knight - captain@arsenal.com _/_/_/ (608) 251-5522 _/_/_/ (608) 251-5727 FAX _/_/_/ From <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:neikes@Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE> Sat Apr 9 03:21:21 1994 Return-Path: <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:neikes@Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE> Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [36.28.0.25]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA20893 for <kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 03:21:18 -0700 Received: from mime.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE by Xenon.Stanford.EDU with SMTP (5.61+IDA/25-CS-eef) id AA08186; Sat, 9 Apr 94 03:21:04 -0700 Received: from nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE (nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE [143.93.160.3]) by mime.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE (8.6.8.1/Worms.Fh-Rpl-4.2(8.6.8)) with ESMTP id MAA07389 for <kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 12:20:42 +0200 Received: (neikes@localhost) by nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE (8.6.8.1/Worms.Fh-Rpl-4.2(8.6.8)) id MAA59292; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 12:20:41 +0200 MESZ) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 12:20:41 +0200 MESZ) From: neikes@Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE Message-Id: <199404091020.MAA59292@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE> To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Status: OR Hi Karl: CorelSCSI provides ASPI-based CD-Rom drivers. Maybe Adaptec has a supporting BBS or ftp site and provides software. But I guess whithout software you're just lost. Sorry I can't help Stephan ********************************************************************** * please mail to: neikes@worms.fh-rpl.de * ********************************************************************** From <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:patrick@indirect.com> Sat Apr 9 10:51:28 1994 Return-Path: <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:patrick@indirect.com> Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [36.28.0.25]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA22186 for <kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:51:26 -0700 Received: from id1.indirect.com by Xenon.Stanford.EDU with SMTP (5.61+IDA/25-CS-eef) id AA20921; Sat, 9 Apr 94 10:51:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (patrick@localhost) by id1.indirect.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA26434 for kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:52:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:52:09 -0700 From: Patrick Berry <patrick@indirect.com> Message-Id: <199404091752.KAA26434@id1.indirect.com> To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Status: OR In article <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> you wrote: : I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec : 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as : SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 : and C:). You need two drivers in addition to ASPI2DOS - ASPICD and MSCDEX You need to include one line in each of autoexec.bat and config.sys config.sys C:\SCSI\ASPICD.SYS /D:ASPICD0 this calls aspicd to load the cd drive as ASPICD0 autoexec.bat: C:\SCSI\MSCDEX.EXE /D:ASPICD0 /L:F /M:12 this calls the mscdex program to load the drive as drive f: Both these came with my notebook docking station and are part of the SCSI adapter board support package. Contact the adapter mfr to obtain them, and whoever sold you the adapter ripped you off if you did not get them at the time of purchase. Hope that helps. The Drive is awesome. You will love it. Pat From kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU Sat Apr 9 13:18:21 1994 Return-Path: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [36.28.0.25]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22460 for <kpfleger@hpp.stanford.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:18:19 -0700 Received: by Xenon.Stanford.EDU (5.61+IDA/25-CS-eef) id AA27288; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:18:16 -0700 From: Karl Robert Pfleger <kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU> Message-Id: <9404092018.AA27288@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> Subject: drivers To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:18:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2336 Status: OR Path: Times.Stanford.EDU!headwall.Stanford.EDU!agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!inxs.concert.net!usenet From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Date: 9 Apr 1994 13:15:52 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Lines: 39 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2o69q8$c7m@inxs.concert.net> References: <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: info@paradigm-shift.com NNTP-Posting-Host: barkley.paradigm-shift.com In article <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec > 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as > SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 > and C:). > > The drive came sealed in its box with NO software/disks of any kind. > Should there have been a driver, or is this unnecesary since it is a > SCSI device? There should have been drivers in the box with the NEC for several different operating systems, not to include NSFIP. > The computer came from GW2K with the Adaptec card and SCSI HD installed > but without any type of SCSI setup utility or any manuals associated > with the Adaptec card. Should Gateway have packaged more SCSI support or > documentation? The Adaptec card has it's own bios and Gateway shipped you only a bare card, instead of the EZ-SCSI software which includes software drivers for the more popular types of hardware and OS's. > I called GW2K tech support and they maintained that I should have gotten > drivers with the CD-ROM drive. There is no support number for NEC to > call in the drive documentation. If no one on the net has > advice/knowledge to pass on, I'll try to track down NEC tech support. > NEC tech support maybe reached at 800.388.8888 and you can email us with any further specific questions. Dave -- Paradigm Shift, Inc. info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ******** From kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU Sat Apr 9 13:21:47 1994 Return-Path: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [36.28.0.25]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22474 for <kpfleger@hpp.stanford.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:21:44 -0700 Received: by Xenon.Stanford.EDU (5.61+IDA/25-CS-eef) id AA27447; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:21:42 -0700 From: Karl Robert Pfleger <kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU> Message-Id: <9404092021.AA27447@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> Subject: drivers To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:21:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 4365 Status: OR Path: Times.Stanford.EDU!headwall.Stanford.EDU!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!not-for-mail From: fishman@panix.com (Harvey Fishman) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers Date: 9 Apr 1994 11:06:41 -0400 Organization: The Universal Church of the Inner Darkness Lines: 68 Message-ID: <2o6ga1$pmo@panix.com> References: <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com Xref: Times.Stanford.EDU comp.periphs.scsi:10226 comp.sys.next.hardware:7053 alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000:10107 In <2o5fnl$6dv@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) says > I just bought a NEC 3xi CDR510 and put it in my Gateway2K w/ Adaptec > 1542CF SCSI-2 adapter. On boot up, it recognizes the SCSI CD-ROM as > SCSI id #1, but doesn't give it a DOS drive letter (and the HD is id #0 > and C:). > > The drive came sealed in its box with NO software/disks of any kind. > Should there have been a driver, or is this unnecesary since it is a > SCSI device? > > The computer came from GW2K with the Adaptec card and SCSI HD installed > but without any type of SCSI setup utility or any manuals associated > with the Adaptec card. Should Gateway have packaged more SCSI support or > documentation? > > I called GW2K tech support and they maintained that I should have gotten > drivers with the CD-ROM drive. There is no support number for NEC to > call in the drive documentation. If no one on the net has > advice/knowledge to pass on, I'll try to track down NEC tech support. If you buy the NEC CDROM reader with their SCSI host adapter (a Trantor which is a division of Adaptec) then you get drivers. But the Adaptec AHA-1542CF is not sold by NEC and therefore there are no drivers from them. If you call NEC, they will say that you need the EZ-SCSI driver kit from Adaptec, which Gateway sort of should have included in their package. ****BUT**** that would have raised Gateway's price as the Adaptec driver package is a priced item. It is both sold separately and included in kits with the host adapters. Typical good street pricing has a $50 difference between the bare host adapter and the same with the Adaptec driver package. The bare card includes default fixed disk drivers for DOS (and booting other operating systems) in the onboard ROM. I do not think that anyone is really to blame here other than that Gateway should have made it clear to you that you might need the additional ($$) drivers to use things beyond the fixed disk. If you really want to do this then you are going to have to buy that dirver package, but it is really a good investment as it has a wide variety of drivers in there for many devices and operating systems. Another driver package that you might want to investigate is CorelSCSI, which costs a bit more but has an even wider variety of drivers. One thing that you must make sure of if you purchase CorelSCSI is that it comes with ASPI4DOS.SYS. This is the basic driver half that goes from the Adaptec hardware to an intermediate standard interface that other drivers wed to. At the time that I purchased CorelSCSI several years ago, it did not include the ASPI4DOS and I had to purchase it separately. But I have heard that they now include it, BUT be DAMNED sure before you buy as you will be just plain damned if it is not there. Oh, Adaptec also sells kits that include both EZ-SCSI and CorelSCSI with the host adapter. Typical street prices for these are about $100 above the bare card. I have an Adaptec AHA-1542B which is now about four and a half years old. I am still very happy with it. I presently use it with a Quantum PD1225S fixed disk and a NEC CDR-84 CDROM reader under OS/2 and DOS. Under OS/2 I use the drivers that are supplied by IBM (but built by Adaptec), and under DOS I use older Adaptec drivers that were sold before the first release of EZ-SCSI. These are ASW-1410 and ASW-410. They are old, but they work and I never saw any reason$ to upgrade. Harvey -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harvey Fishman | There is no greater failure than fishman@panix.com | that of making an enemy. 718-258-7276 | From <@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU:kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU> Sat Apr 9 13:26:40 1994 Return-Path: <@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU:kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU> Received: from Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Sunburn.Stanford.EDU [36.8.0.178]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22486 for <kpfleger@hpp.stanford.edu>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:26:36 -0700 Received: from om.Stanford.EDU by Sunburn.Stanford.EDU with SMTP (5.67b/25-SUNBURN-eef) id AA05297; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:26:34 -0700 Received: by om.Stanford.EDU (4.1/25-OM-eef) id AA12924; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:26:33 PDT From: "Karl R. Pfleger" <kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU> Message-Id: <9404092026.AA12924@om.Stanford.EDU> Subject: drivers To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:26:32 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: OR ====scsi FAQ===== QUESTION: What is the telephone number of Adaptec? ANSWER From: jcaples@netcom.com (Jon D Caples) ==== 800 959 7274 tech support 800 442 7274 orders doc, new bios, etc. Adaptec's general inquiry number, 800-959-7272, affords access to a FAX-based information retrieval system. In order to preserve the accuracy of this information, I won't go into details about how to use it (since Adaptec may change things without telling me :). From <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:V_IOURT@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA> Sat Apr 9 15:54:49 1994 Return-Path: <@Xenon.Stanford.EDU:V_IOURT@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA> Received: from Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Xenon.Stanford.EDU [36.28.0.25]) by HPP.Stanford.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA22923 for <kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 15:54:47 -0700 Received: from Vax2.Concordia.CA by Xenon.Stanford.EDU with SMTP (5.61+IDA/25-CS-eef) id AA05605; Sat, 9 Apr 94 15:54:42 -0700 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (V_IOURT@PAVO3) by VAX2.CONCORDIA.CA (PMDF V4.2-11 #2544) id <01HAZCE0WWFK8XBIN8@VAX2.CONCORDIA.CA>; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 18:49:05 EST Date: Sat, 09 Apr 1994 18:49:05 -0500 (EST) From: V_IOURT@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA Subject: Re: NEC 3xi SCSI CD-ROM shipped w/o drivers To: kpfleger@CS.Stanford.EDU Message-Id: <01HAZCE0Z1LE8XBIN8@VAX2.CONCORDIA.CA> X-Vms-To: VAX2::IN%"kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Hi! Well, the NEC tech support number is 1-800-388-8888 extn 2. For product literature and dealer locations, you can call 1-800-NEC-INFO. They also have an awsome FastFacts fax line at 1-800-366-0476. >The computer came from GW2K with the Adaptec card and SCSI HD installed >but without any type of SCSI setup utility or any manuals associated >with the Adaptec card. Should Gateway have packaged more SCSI support or >documentation? Adaptec has a weird policy on bundling software with their cards. The software (EZ-SCSI) usually costs an extra 50$ US. I don't know whether yours was included in the price or not, but if it was, make sure you bug Gateway. BTW, you need an ASPI manager (included with EZ-SCSI) if you run Windoze on your machine. Makes a lot of difference. If you want, you can call Adaptec at 1-800-959-SCSI and order a FREE manual for the card. Hope this helps. P.S. Make sure you get the software, your card needs it. ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------- Vitaly Iourtchenko | Scott: "You're not quite, uh, *human*, are you?" v_iourt@pavo.concordia.ca | Data: "No, sir. I am an android. Lieutenant ---------------------------+ Commander Data." Concordia University | Scott: "Synthetic scotch, synthetic commanders." Computer Science | -- "Relics", stardate 46125.3 ---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
From: waters@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Waters) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Date: 10 Apr 1994 21:26:04 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Message-ID: <2o9qtc$br9@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> <2o7d7v$itr@dockmaster.phantom.com> Paul Shetler (pas@phantom.com) wrote: : conradtj@yvax.byu.edu wrote: : : In article <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU>, wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce) writes: : : > Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying : : > "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" : : > : : > I kind of suspect there would be many. : : > : : > count me in : : I would also be very interested in being able to choose NS for my Power : : Macintosh, if for no other reason than having an alternative. : Count me in, too! I'm currently running NeXTstep on a Compaq; but I would : love to be able to run it in my PMac at work. We're currently planning on : putting in lots of PPCs at the Bank, and we are also putting in lots of : NeXTStep '486 boxes too. A PPC version of NeXTstep would interest a _lot_ : of my users. I would love to see NeXTStep running on my PowerMac as well... Count me in! Maybe I could get my hands on a black case...... :) Johnny
From: gregd@camtwh.eric.on.ca (Greg Dee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI FRAME GRABBER? Date: 10 Apr 1994 17:46:23 -0400 Organization: Eye Research Inst. of Canada Sender: gregd@camtwh.eric.on.ca Message-ID: <2o9s3f$8vq@camtwh.eric.on.ca> Does anyone know of a good scsi frame grabber that could be used for scientific applications? We would like to be able to control the gain and range of the analog signal and also do hardware frame averaging. We would like to develop our own scsi driver under Nextstep so that we could use the frame grabber with intel, hp, motorola and sun hardware with a minimal amount of work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Greg Dee E.R.I.C.
From: Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting an 030 cube running Date: 10 Apr 1994 23:41:20 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oa2r0INNglb@clem.handheld.com> References: <jscogginCnzu1D.JrM@netcom.com> In article <jscogginCnzu1D.JrM@netcom.com> jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) writes: > mek@acs.bu.edu (Mark E. Kern) sayz: > >I just purchased on 030 cube and have a few questions. The cube is the > >standard 030/OD/40meg swap and comes with an external floppy drive (black). > >It only has 8 megs of RAM, but I have an extra 8meg 72pin SIMM lying around > >from my Mac Centris. What OS should I install? Is it worth it to try and > >load 3.x? If so, do they sell 3.x on optical disk? > > If you don't plan to upgrade the motherboard, I'd recommend 2.1(2.2?)OS. > If you plan to upgrade the OS, you'll most certainly have to upgrade the > RAM. 16megs is good for 2.0, but not really enough for 3.0 It really depends on the user. I just brought up an old '030 with 8 meg of ram, and a 3.5gb (yes, gb!) drive, under NS 3.2 It was quite acceptable, the drive was a fast one, and the swapping was not too noticable. I added an additional 8 meg of ram, which ended most of the swapping. Obviously, if I start lots of tasks, the thrashing gets extreme, but for a few tasks at a time, 16, and even 8 mb will make a workable system. Initially, it was OD only, no swapdisk, that was slow under 3.2 A swapdisk helped a lot. Having the OS on a HD is the best use of your money, followed by RAM. > Your 8meg > 72pin SIMM won't work. If memory serves, the original cubes had 8 slots > for 32pin SIMM's. They must be installed in quads, for a 32bit data path. > Converning your last question about 3.x on optical, nope. CD-ROM, only. > 2.0 was available on NeXT OD's and floppy(hundreds of them:-) It is possible to make a 3.2 OD boot disk, with the whole OS on it. > Also, if you upgrade the motherboard to a turbo 040, the OD is no longer > supported, so I was told. > > >Also, I have a 100 meg SCSI drive I'm not using. Would I get any speed > >improvement if I installed it as a substitute for the 40 meg swap drive? > >What if I just installed it as an extra drive and ran programs from it... > > Ideally, swap should be 3 times the real RAM. There is a chance the 40 in > there is faster than your 100 and is probably sufficient, for the time > being. If you don't have a HD now, YES hook up the 100. I wouldn't even > consider running from the OD. I've done it before, YUK!! Probably NeXT's > biggest mistake was thinking people could run the OS from the OD. Spend > the bucks, get a real drive. A few hundred bucks will make a WORLD of > difference. I suggest 300Megs, minimum. Yep. > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >-- > >= pdcmarkus@aol.com > >= mek@acs.bu > >= simms@phantom.com > >= Looking for old Pixar hardware and U.S. Acorn BBS machines > > Jerry > jscoggin@netcom.com // Proud NeXT TurboColor owner Jim -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "You have to stand for something, NRA-ILA, GOA, CCRKBA, | or GSSF, VSRRA | you'll fall for anything." jmd@handheld.com | -- Allen's claimed campaign song title
From: kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC Pentium any good? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 18:23:31 -0700 Organization: Kornreich Communications Message-ID: <kci-100494182331@ppp-001.teleport.com> Is anyone using a NEC pentium box?? How about the ZEOS pentium Pantera?? -- Kornreich Communications Steven Kornreich kci@teleport.com
From: Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Date: 11 Apr 1994 02:01:44 GMT Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> References: <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> In article <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) writes: > > Hello ! > > I have a CD-ROM SCSI driver connected to my Station. > When I don t use it, I turn it off, but the Console will give me > every second this message: > > sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0 > > Is there a way to avoid that (without to turn the driver on :-) > Thank you for any info... With the exception of possible specially designed SCSI devices, all devices in a SCSI chain MUST ALWAYS be powered up when the bus is active. You risk damage to the data on your internal drive by operating with power off on any SCSI device in the chain. Jim -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "You have to stand for something, NRA-ILA, GOA, CCRKBA, | or GSSF, VSRRA | you'll fall for anything." jmd@handheld.com | -- Allen's claimed campaign song title
From: kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cheapest CD-ROM for NS_FIP?? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:39:39 -0700 Organization: Kornreich Communications Message-ID: <kci-100494193939@ppp-004.teleport.com> What is a good inexpensive cdrom that would work with NS_FIP?? -- Kornreich Communications Steven Kornreich kci@teleport.com
From: kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Beta Driver for Viper available?? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:40:40 -0700 Organization: Kornreich Communications Message-ID: <kci-100494194040@ppp-004.teleport.com> Does anyone have a beta driver for a Diamond Viper video board?? -- Kornreich Communications Steven Kornreich kci@teleport.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 11 Apr 1994 02:24:34 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2oaqf2$f6e@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: NEXTSTEP WWW Third Party Product Information Server NEXTSTEP Third Party Product Mail Server comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers NEXTSTEP WWW Third Party Product Information Server --------------------------------------------------- The Server has information from many NEXTSTEP Third Party Developers. 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If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: NEC Pentium any good? Message-ID: <Co3640.LKr@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <kci-100494182331@ppp-001.teleport.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:26:23 GMT In article <kci-100494182331@ppp-001.teleport.com> kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > Is anyone using a NEC pentium box?? How about the ZEOS pentium Pantera?? > > -- > Kornreich Communications > Steven Kornreich > kci@teleport.com I'm using the latest NEC Pentium... The IO performances on the hard drive are FANTASTIC ! (over 4 in the drive bench.app) The system also has a Miro board that gives performances better than a NeXT Turbo Color (at last !). I guess one important point is that this system is totaly supported for NEXTSTEP, I received mine already NEXTSTEP installed from Boston (call Dave Buck at Advanced Information Solutions in Boston dbuck@advis.com) Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
From: fxg@lalo.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: To hell with next (not!) Date: 11 Apr 1994 10:02:46 GMT Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik III, RWTH Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <FXG.94Apr11120246@lalo.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <2973199825.8.p00378@psilink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-reply-to: "James Gaines"'s message of Sat, 19 Mar 94 17:45:14 -0600 Just for the count: I have bought a HP4m, and the modem connection worked straight! I soldered the cable myself, according to the null modem cable specs found in the zs man page (Hm, I remember looking into a HP510C manual for that, the HP4 manual IS weak at that.) 38.4 kbps worked fine under 3.0 (Used a cloned HP3/anyPS-cartridge ppd file), with the advent of 3.3, 56 kbps and the appropriate ppd file were available. No unsurmountable problems! The ppd file took some fine-tuning (printable area), and I added a 200 lpi 90 degree screen for screen shots, but that's my piece of cake. I wouldn't trade my NeXTstation / HP4 - couple in for anything! One "Problem" remains: the 4m comes with an Eithertalk JetDirect card. Anyone knows a minimal solution for using that? Anyone for trade-in with a TCP/IP - Card? -- Felix (fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com (Bob Jones) Message-ID: <9404110506.AA01018@lagerhead> Subject: ZyXEL Modem Left in AutoAnswer Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 01:06:11 -0400 id AA17417; Mon, 11 Apr 94 03:35:56 -0700 id DAA04118; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 03:35:51 -0700 id AA04455; Mon, 11 Apr 94 06:23:53 -0400 id AA01018; Mon, 11 Apr 94 01:06:11 -0400 begin 666 .tar.569.ZyXEL_Modem_Left_in_.attach M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FS0``'@(H@8-#9V]`@" M!D>2'F7(H&'C8HV7,F+`O"'#8PV:,#I6W,FSI\^?0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),FW</E MH!D87,*XF9.&J9DW;NC0$<.&RU.O<^ZDF3,'!)(R;.R4H9-F3)@=?11P:1-& MSADV,63`D$O7KIR\>[G`J4N&"QT\-6;,,(PG!@P;-QC'L`$C!N.8,VI<SHB# M\0R],CS?F&&#,0T9-Z`>IH$#QN+#B6=$_BH&:AJH==BXP5H&[$JO8Z".>0HB M"0@Y9<:4R<HF#P@T;]ZL*4,&1!TX(-HXUY('2Q$F'VGDL%$$A-3JQL.TL4[5 MS1D0T^6T24.'Q44G6(R$*6A>X$7C:(2AEGD@5%'%$%"``,<;;+`!PAQK7>?" M152@48:"#+(1T'MWO"''&F69$="%YSWX!@ADO%%&6718"%\9\M%GWU5R@-#B MA6V\,0<="M9%QX0@-.%<C@.M-]:#$6)'QXE2A04C"%BA.!9;;HS!UH!R;`AD MA1?"(<<;7)6Q7GKK!6C'AB`<&889=#Q))HJ\8=C@AO;="`)WWH%W)!MEL)FF M&R`$4<>204QUQY-$EK$E&D<^L00(-,JIH7L/!J1<FCR*U:"D(+A!$(_0U5&C M6"UV>J*78/+9QAQ`(O'&H6K5F(89Q9FGE9AP\+BDE&$X&-"NVF47QAB,>@IE MC<@IE\:`84"Z7YTN)KJ>I@[NQF.3A]:(@G$MOE''&6CP*$9R8=0!(:8@W!%& M60$%.N@;A3I98Z(I`)D$K<8A!Z&NT;Y1I'USO-%&&7&Z!2@9:?3ZY['.XF&? M&(-"6>6%-SI7UX7>\HNCOV*F6988PZZQL*"$&@JC"US(I8!QQ"8W775V#F1& MN6SP.'".<CBW+Y5GA.BAC2[B^5U_U?7J8`U(:K5A669>&`054YBTKXTGZ@'C MB5FZQ^I%A3J7QD#K_I!RRG(-)D=AL.DEV6.J-499VS&I?9@,&;7]&0QVXV0: MW6VSAC=CB:F=AF^=F1$<%\.9U,+BC#?N^..01R[YY)&G?)$08(*@!&]E@2`& MF$!\[<(8`GOD1!E84$%7&@YZV2>,R%47`DJTUYXRY;CGKGON"L2EU._`!R_\ M\,07;_SQR">O_/+,-^_\\]!'+_WTU%=O_?789Z_]]MQW[_WWX(<O_OCDEV_^ (^>BGK_[Z1@&O ` end
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DAT tape and NSI 3.2 ?? Date: 11 Apr 1994 11:28:22 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2obc8m$or8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> For 3.1 there is a SCSItape driver on NeXTanswers. Those old 3.1 days, my HP DAT worked with this driver. Now with NS/Intel 3.2, it won't get found with the normal Adaptec driver. What should I do ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: NEXTSTEP on Dell Omniplex? Message-ID: <1994Apr11.105116.11374@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 10:51:16 GMT Hi, Did anyone make any experiences with NEXTSTEP on Omniplex 4100+ (486DX4) or 560 (586, 60 MHz)? Is the onboard graphics supported? Thanks, A. Ploeger --------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel 1, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: what about the SLEEP mode for hard disks? Date: 11 Apr 1994 14:07:25 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2oblit$aq4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu This is NOT about energy conservations etc. This is solely about longevity and troublefreeness of hard disks. QUESTION: Is it good or bad to use the "sleep" mode which spins down a hard disk drive after a prescribed time w/o access to it??? Please advise me. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AARGH: Paper is jammed in my printer Date: 11 Apr 1994 14:18:36 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <2obm7s$evs@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Hi folks, Actually, after listening to that voice message enough times, my "AARRGGHH" has been reduced to a whimper. The situation is my NeXT printer keeps having a paper jam on entry -- which produces the infamous message. Apparently, the paper pickup works OK, but the roller which inserts the paper after the initial pickup doesn't have enough traction. If I wipe the metal roller it'll work for a while. The printer seems to especially dislike "laser printer paper". Since I'm printing out a fellow's 909 page dissertation which I'd like to keep for a while ("Eigenvalue Tests and Distributions for Small Sample Order Determination for Complex Wishart Matrices", since you asked), I'd prefer to use the good paper. Thus, the query, "Are there any adjustments which I can make or do I need to get in touch with Bell Atlantic?" In the meantime, I guess I'll just work on learning new words and stringing them into innovative patterns and sequences. Thanks, Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Hans Stoeger Subject: Re: Cheapest CD-ROM for NS_FIP?? Message-ID: <Co3CB0.v2@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <kci-100494193939@ppp-004.teleport.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 10:40:11 GMT In article <kci-100494193939@ppp-004.teleport.com> kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > What is a good inexpensive cdrom that would work with NS_FIP?? > > -- > Kornreich Communications > Steven Kornreich > kci@teleport.com Not testet but probably the toshiba 4101, electronics is the same (says toshiba), only slower mechanics, 300K vs 330 and 300ms vs 200 seek time Hans
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Hans Stoeger Subject: Re: Building Swapdisk Message-ID: <Co3CKM.vv@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <1994Apr10.124507.11409@seer.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 10:45:58 GMT I know how to make swapdisks, but has any body found an EASY way to make a normal disk out of a swapdisk again? Any good ideas? Thanks Hans
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Hans Stoeger Subject: Re: What about new 64 bit accelerators? Message-ID: <Co3D6G.xw@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2o4qr1$ln1@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 10:59:04 GMT In article <2o4qr1$ln1@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > > [1] There are no 64-bit (RAMDAC) cards working with NS as-of-yet. NeXT has > not made public any plans to port to any. miro and ELSA in Germany and Number Nine promised drivers for the new S3 cards > [2] There are no Pentium 60/90s (that you can order today) working with NS > as-of-yet. NeXT has not made public any plans to port to any. We have a Pentium 66 working and there is no reason why a 90MHZ Pentium should not work with NEXTSTEP > [3] There are no better-than-EISA SCSI cards (e.g., the PCI NCR SCSI) yet > released (although talus has been working on it; interestingly, they don't > seem to get along with NeXT). NeXT has not made public any plans to port > to any. The PCI Version of the Buslogic SCSI Controller is available now. (And according to the documents it should work with NEXTSTEP) Hans ( I also would lioke more drivers, but i guess it is not resonable to expect drivers of hardware that just hit the market!)
From: daj@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Does Micronics JX30 motherboard work? Date: 11 Apr 94 14:45:50 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <daj.766075550@news.acns.nwu.edu> I am considering purchasing several PC's for our labs. They use the Micronics JX30 motherboard and I am trying to confirm if anyone has had good or bad luck with them when using (or attempting to use) NeXTSTEP. If you have any info please email me. Thank's in advance,.... david. -- David A. Johnson Email: daj@nwu.edu Northwestern University Medical School Phone: (312) 503 - 1883
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep difference... Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:16:08 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2obt48$r1@cerberus.wsc.com> References: <2o895e$dt9@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> In article <2o895e$dt9@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> srenker@cc.emory.edu (Stephen Renker) writes: > On top of Solaris?! What in the Sam Hill is this? Listen up, NeXT: There > are two things I will have nothing further to do with: Intel hardware and > Sun software. After seeing our continuous problems with NFS in the labs NeXT will have the following: - NEXTSTEP/Intel - NEXTSTEP/Sparc - NEXTSTEP/Motorola - NEXTSTEP/HP-PA - NEXTSTEP/PowerPC (rumored) - OpenStep specification - PDOs running on DEC Alpha, Data General, and others. Sun will make Solaris OpenStep compliant through licensing of NEXTSTEP source code from NeXT, and building it in. So you have two options for running OpenStep compliant applications on Sun hardware: 1) get NEXTSTEP/Sparc, or 2) get Solaris. In fact, there will be no option for *not* running OpenStep apps on Solaris :-). NEXTSTEP is NeXT's implementation of OpenStep... If the above is wrong, please correct me... - darcy
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what about the SLEEP mode for hard disks? Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:02:50 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <cheLGei00iV5E4eaEA@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2oblit$aq4@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Apr-94 what about the SLEEP mode f.. by Paul Nevai@math.ohio-sta > This is NOT about energy conservations etc. This is solely about longevity > and troublefreeness of hard disks. > > QUESTION: Is it good or bad to use the "sleep" mode which spins down a hard > disk drive after a prescribed time w/o access to it??? Spinning a hard drive up or down is the most wearing activity you can do to the drive. You are much better off just leaving the drive spinning all the time, because your drive will last longer. I will turn my computer off when I don't plan to use it for an extended period of time; I don't ever turn off my hard drives unless I am changing the SCSI bus. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Bad dumps from a bad powersupply? Message-ID: <Co3roI.1J3@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <9404101717.AA01488@cantina.lanl.gov> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:12:17 GMT This problem might be related to SCSI termination or cabeling. Gerd In article <9404101717.AA01488@cantina.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes: > In the last few days I find that I often come in mornings > to find my Epson NX, running NS3.2, in a frozen state. > The crashes occur sometime during my nightly backup, > using the dump utility, at 4:05 AM. > > To get back to a working computer necessitates a reboot, > and lately one in which the automatic fsck fails. So, > from single-user-mode, I have to do TWO manual fscks to > get a clean hard disk and a good reboot. > > Why now? -- this machine is six months old. And why the > somewhat slow degradation? -- it doesn't happen all the > time. > > Now, it seems a bit hard to believe there's a connection, > but it is known that the Epson NX computers, at least > the early versions, have been plagued with flakey power > supplies. In fact, the original in my machine has been > replaced once (under warranty). I was assuming that the > problem had been cured for me with that replacement, but > now I don't know. > > Can a flakey power supply crash a dump? > > Supporting evidence (?): I have now seen two occasions > when I log in and the hard disk activity (and there's a > lot of that at login) drops out for a while. It sounds > like the disk is momentarily turned off, then like it > starts spinning up again, and eventually the clicking > sounds of head seeks resumes. The situation for > dump-utility backup might be similar, with a lot of disk > activity. > > Dick Silbar > WhistleSoft, Inc. > Voice: 505-662-7309, Fax: 505-662-7601 > Nextmail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Message-ID: <Co3ruq.1Jw@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:16:02 GMT In article <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> writes: > In article <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch > (Stefano Unternaehrer) writes: > > > > Hello ! > > > > I have a CD-ROM SCSI driver connected to my Station. > > When I don t use it, I turn it off, but the Console will give me > > every second this message: > > > > sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0 > > > > Is there a way to avoid that (without to turn the driver on :-) > > Thank you for any info... > > With the exception of possible specially designed SCSI devices, all devices > in a SCSI chain MUST ALWAYS be powered up when the bus is active. > You risk damage to the data on your internal drive by operating with power > off on any SCSI device in the chain. > This is not true!!! If you make sure, that the terminators get power (usually provided by the controller, but heavily dependend on correct jumpering!), you can turn off devices like scanners etc. Gerd > > Jim > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > - > Jim De Arras - WA4ONG | "You have to stand for something, > NRA-ILA, GOA, CCRKBA, | or > GSSF, VSRRA | you'll fall for anything." > jmd@handheld.com | -- Allen's claimed campaign song title
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Building Swapdisk Message-ID: <Co3s2H.1Lt@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <Co3CKM.vv@tms-gmbh.de> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:20:36 GMT In article <Co3CKM.vv@tms-gmbh.de> Hans Stoeger writes: > I know how to make swapdisks, but has any body found an EASY way to > make a normal disk out of a swapdisk again? > > Any good ideas? > > Thanks Hans Ask your friendly system administrator next door... Set a new label ('diskname') with /usr/etc/disk -L <NEWNAME> /dev/rsd<n>a (replace stuff in <> with appropiate data) Gerd
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP on Dell Omniplex? Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:57:08 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2obvh4$vr@cerberus.wsc.com> References: <1994Apr11.105116.11374@aplki.toppoint.de> In article <1994Apr11.105116.11374@aplki.toppoint.de> ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) writes: > Hi, > > Did anyone make any experiences with NEXTSTEP on Omniplex 4100+ (486DX4) or 560 > (586, 60 MHz)? > Is the onboard graphics supported? > The onboard PCI SCSI and PCI ATI graphics are supported. Dell contracted Talus to do the work. However, there is a bug in the NCR SCSI controller which does not allow you to add external SCSI devices (I think). This is delaying the listing of the OmniPlex as an official NEXTSTEP machine (I think). I decided way back when that the OmniPlex was the best PC around. Of course, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PC mag and Byte both rated the OmniPlex as the best PC around as well! It's a serious machine, which is what I want... it's not a *cheap* machine, but it's a good one, with a good vendor behind it. I will continue to wait patiently for the release of the NEXTSTEP drivers for the OmniPlex. After all, it only gets cheaper with time :-). Read the latest PC mag and Byte issues for the Pentium ratings... - darcy
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Building Swapdisk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:07:35 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <cheN7bG00iV8E62YZ6@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Co3CKM.vv@tms-gmbh.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Apr-94 Re: Building Swapdisk by Hans Stoeger@??? > I know how to make swapdisks, but has any body found an EASY way to > make a normal disk out of a swapdisk again? > > Any good ideas? Use the "/usr/etc/disk" program on the swapdisk and write a new label name whose first 8 characters aren't "swapdisk" via the "name" command. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann) Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <Co3FA3.6qu@palumbia.in-berlin.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Palumbia, Home of the marsupilami References: <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 11:44:26 GMT Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> writes: >In article <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch >(Stefano Unternaehrer) writes: >> >> Hello ! >> >> I have a CD-ROM SCSI driver connected to my Station. >> When I don t use it, I turn it off, but the Console will give me >> every second this message: >> >> sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0 >> >> Is there a way to avoid that (without to turn the driver on :-) >> Thank you for any info... >With the exception of possible specially designed SCSI devices, all devices >in a SCSI chain MUST ALWAYS be powered up when the bus is active. >You risk damage to the data on your internal drive by operating with power >off on any SCSI device in the chain. But it works without any Problems on an SS1+. Shouldn't be a problem for a next ? Henrik -- marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) Henrik Hempelmann marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de >> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Running NeXTstation Turbo diskless Date: 11 Apr 1994 14:31:23 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2obmvr$4sl@fermat.mayo.edu> I have a Nextstation Turbo with a dying (screeching) 250 internal drive. Without getting into the vagaries of our purchasing procedures, suffice it to say, I need to get rid of this drive faster than I can get approval of buying a replacement disk. My internal has the screaming bearing from hell problem, and my hearing is about shot. Anyway, in preparation for situations just like this, we have purchased a few 1GB disk drive 'spares' in external configurations just for times like these. I have built NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a spare, and have booted sucessfully. So far so good. Now the question. Can I damage my slab (or the power supply) by just pulling the power feed to the drive, and running off an external disk? I really don't want to move the external drive into my internal slot, given 1) I run a hot turbo anyway (office runs hot), and 2) I will likely the 1gb drive back in configuration once the replacement drive (likely < 1GB) is procured. I remember a discussion about maintaining a load on the slab power supply a while back, but I don't see anything in the FAQ's or my archives telling me of a resolution. Was there a resolution? Or is is just caveat emptor? --- Geoff ____________________________________________________________________________ Geoffrey Brunkhorst Brunkhorst.Geoffrey@Mayo.edu Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805 Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: nraymond@genesis.nred.ma.us (NATHAN RAYMOND) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Message-ID: <Co2roL.4yy@genesis.nred.ma.us> Summary: Why NeXT can't compete with Apple Keywords: NeXT, Apple, PPC, NeXTStep Sender: nraymond@genesis.nred.ma.us Organization: Genesis Public Access Unix +1 508 664 0149 References: <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> <2o7d7v$itr@dockmaster.phantom.com> <2o9qtc$br9@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 03:14:43 GMT Well, don't you think it would have been easier for NeXT to simply port the 68000-based NeXTStep to Mac than to do a complete overhaul of its OS for Intel-based machines? If the original legal agreements between Apple and NeXT still are still valid, then there is a reason NeXT won't and can't come out with NeXTStep for PowerMac. Now for a little history. According to "West of Eden: The End of Innocence at Apple Computer" by Frank Rose (published by Viking, 1989) when Steve Jobs was pushed out of Apple Computer he took several top Apple engineers with him to found a new computer company, and Apple immediately sued. Due to the timeliness of such a decision, both parties agreed to try and work it out through hearings headed by a judge, between their lawyers. The results the agreement finaly met upon by both parties are covered in more detail on page 335, but here is what I feel is particularly pertinent: "Any computer Next built would have to have certain minimum performance standards to avoid competing with Apple products - a provision Steve [Jobs] and his colleagues thought would make a great marketing document, since it stated that Next couldn't build a computer that didn't perform significantly better than Apple's." The idea behind this was to protect Apple from direct competition with NeXT in any way because Apple was letting such talent leave their company. Today, NeXT is a software company, and I don't know how the Apple-NeXT legal agreement was phrased, but if it still applies in some sense, then NeXT can't legally compete with Apple - but then again it might not apply. I would like to hear if it does (anybody have any information on this?). nraymond@genesis.nred.ma.us
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What about new 64 bit accelerators? Date: 11 Apr 1994 22:35:43 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2ocjbv$f31@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <Co3D6G.xw@tms-gmbh.de> > miro and ELSA in Germany and Number Nine promised drivers for the new > S3 cards but do these cards have 64-bit RAMDACs, as the matrox and new ATI cards do? > We have a Pentium 66 working and there is no reason why a 90MHZ Pentium > should not work with NEXTSTEP no reason, but no supported p60/90 is available from a NS reseller as-of-yet (e.g., paradigm, alpine, gec, etc.) > > [3] There are no better-than-EISA SCSI cards (e.g., the PCI NCR SCSI) > yet > > released (although talus has been working on it; interestingly, they > don't > > seem to get along with NeXT). NeXT has not made public any plans to > port > > to any. > > The PCI Version of the Buslogic SCSI Controller is available now. (And > according to the documents it should work with NEXTSTEP) Does it work in 1542 mode, or can it handle multiple large hard disks (i.e., 3GB hard disks)? /ivo welch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Message-ID: <Co4Cqo.3pq@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 23:47:12 GMT In article <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> writes: [ ] >With the exception of possible specially designed SCSI devices, all devices >in a SCSI chain MUST ALWAYS be powered up when the bus is active. >You risk damage to the data on your internal drive by operating with power >off on any SCSI device in the chain. Why? Isn't this simply an issue of termination? I have been leaving my CD-ROM drive on my "NeXT PC" off most of the time, as it isn't really useful to me. Are you saying something dreadful is about to happen? -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT) [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: SB16 driver, DPMS screen saver? Message-ID: <Co4D04.3yo@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 23:52:52 GMT Are these available for NS/Intel? The DPMS screen saver would be ideally for an ATI GUP, but I'm willing to move to any card which supports it... Thank's,... -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT) [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/I 3.2 does not mount DOS partition and sound card problem Date: 12 Apr 1994 00:32:38 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2ocq76$p3d@news.service.uci.edu> (1) I have two IDE DRIVES. Drive 1: OS/2 boot manager, Next, DOS Drive 2: DOS primary, DOS logical drive When NeXT is running, it does not recognize the DOS partition on the first Drive. It does not recognize the DOS logical drive on the 2nd Drive, either. It does recognize the Primary DOS partition on the 2nd Drive when first login after booting. Subsequent logins, however, lose it. (2) I got an internal NEC 500 CD-ROM, used an internal audio cable to connect the CD ROM to a Pro-audio studio card. Under DOS an audio CD can be played and heard through the sound card, but it does not work under Next 3.2 with CDPlayer. Instead, I have to plug an earphone at the front of the CD ROM. Also, the Pro-audio studio card does not seem to have an internal connection for the internal speaker, when I install the Proaudio sound card driver, the system beep sound does not work with the internal speaker anymore. I would like to have the internal speaker for system beep when I am not working with the sound card. Any help, or clues are appreciated. Thanks. Feng Liu UC, Irvine
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Date: 11 Apr 1994 22:18:28 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ocibk$3ct@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> writes: > stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) writes: > > > > Hello ! > > > > I have a CD-ROM SCSI driver connected to my Station. > > When I don t use it, I turn it off, but the Console will > > give me every second this message: > > > > sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0 > > > > Is there a way to avoid that (without to turn the driver on :-) > > Thank you for any info... > > With the exception of possible specially designed SCSI devices, > all devices in a SCSI chain MUST ALWAYS be powered up when the > bus is active. You risk damage to the data on your internal > drive by operating with power off on any SCSI device in the chain. If you're saying what I think you're saying, you're not quite right. If your computer is off, you can set most modern SCSI devices in whatever state (on or off) you want, and then turn the computer on. Once the computer *running*, then it is a bad idea to take any of those SCSI devices and change their state (from on to off, or from off to on). It isn't that the SCSI device "MUST ALWAYS" be powered up when the scsi bus is active, it's that it is very unwise to change the state of SCSI devices while the bus is active. "Very unwise" meaning you can lose all the data on your hard disk. Now, you can often "get away" with turning SCSI devices on/off or even unplugging them on Mac when it's running, but don't be fooled by success. You're basically playing russian roulette, and if you do it often enough you are certain to blow something somewhere. However, I've never heard of anyone having any problems if they have a SCSI device attached and just decided to leave it off while powering up the system. Of course, that means that if you want to use the device you first have to shut down the system, then turn on the device, then bring the system back up. One possible exception to the above rule is Sun workstations. My friends with Sun's blithly add or remove SCSI devices on the fly all the time. I still think it's extremely risky to do that, but somehow they get away with it and apparently haven't been burnt by doing it. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight Everhart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Vendors Date: 11 Apr 1994 22:35:49 -0500 Organization: Alterlife Distribution: na Message-ID: <2od4ul$dj5@biff.alterlife.com> I'm starting to feel the limitations of my '030 Cube, so I'm thinking of buying a NEXTSTEP Intel system. However, I'm not sure from whom I should buy. I'd like a system that has NEXTSTEP pre-installed, so that rules out most mail-order houses, I assume. Do I have to buy directly from the manufacturers? On a related issue, what's the cheapest way to buy a NEXTSTEP Intel box: buying a pre-installed system or purchasing NEXTSTEP separately? I've heard that assembling a system (by purchasing the motherboard, case, and other components separately) can save a few hundred dollars, but wouldn't the separate purchase of NEXTSTEP offset any savings? These questions seemed like FAQs, but I didn't see them in the FAQ. Please forgive me if they are elementary or obvious. This will be my first purchase of an Intel system, and the size of the market is a bit overwhelming. -- Dwight Everhart "Computer centers are like newly hatched ducklings: Consulting Programmer whatever they see first, they follow around for Bella Vista, Arkansas the rest of their lives. In ducklings it is everhart@alterlife.com called imprinting; in computer centers it is called compatibility." -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
From: iwj@white.dogwood.com (Ian Jackson) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization fails Supersedes: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 11 Apr 1994 23:38:36 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> RESULT comp.sys.next.hardware reorganisation This is the report of the vote result regarding the proposal to split comp.sys.next.hardware into three unmoderated groups, comp.sys.next.hardware.i386, .m68k and .misc. Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 152 60 : Yes No : No : comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 152 59 : Yes No : No : comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k 148 60 : Yes No : No : comp.sys.next.hardware.misc 214 valid ballots were received and counted in the totals above. Each new group requires at least twice as many yes as no votes and at least 100 more yes than no votes; accordingly none of the proposed new groups will be created and comp.sys.next.hardware will remain. The proposal may not be raised again for at least 6 months. CHARTERS ======== comp.sys.next.hardware.i386 Computers running NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors This group is intended for discussion of hardware topics relating to NeXTstep running on Intel x86 series processors. Appropriate topics include (but are of course not limited to) the various vendors of NeXTstep compatible Intel x86 systems, ISA/EISA/VLB/PCI cards and drivers for such systems and the DriverKit. comp.sys.next.hardware.m68k Computers running NeXTSTEP for NeXT Computers This group is intended for discussion of hardware topics relating to NeXTstep running on Motorola 680x0 series processors. Currently this includes all hardware questions relating to turbo and non-turbo NeXTcube and NeXTstations systems as well as NeXTdimension systems. comp.sys.next.hardware.misc Peripherals and miscellaneous Hardware (renamed from comp.sys.next.hardware) NeXTstep related hardware questions which belong in none or all of the existing processor specific groups belong in comp.sys.next.hardware.misc. Appropriate topics include the discussion of SCSI devices, modems and printers as related to NeXTstep, any topic relating to NeXTstep on new processors for which no processor specific group has yet been created, and many more. If this group is created it will replace comp.sys.next.hardware, which will therefore be removed approximately three months later. Crossposts between any of these three groups are discouraged. A subject appropriate for one of the processor specific newsgroups is by definition inappropriate for the .misc group, and a question which could go to both of them generally belongs in neither but only in the .misc group. RATIONALE ========= As NeXTSTEP has started to support multiple hardware architectures, the articles in comp.sys.next.hardware are clearly split right now. They are unrelated, but happen to be in the same newsgroup; things are going to be even worse when new hardware architectures are supported. This split will help to make reading hardware articles easier, as related articles will be grouped together. People only interested in one hardware architecture don't have to dig through all articles in order to find those they are interested in. The following naming rule for hardware groups has been applied, so that users of NeXTSTEP computers know at once which hardware newsgroup to use: comp.sys.next.hardware.`/usr/bin/arch` (this is the same as the MACH cpu type -- see man 3 arch). This is not ideal, but it is predictable. Fancier names could be chosen, but again, people would have to ask for the correct name of his newsgroup, and this discussion would start again and again with every new hardware architecture. CONTACT INFORMATION =================== This vote is being handled by Ian Jackson as a neutral third party. Please direct all voting and procedural questions and reports of problems to him at iwj@white.dogwood.com. NOTE! Please send *votes* to iwj-vote@white.dogwood.com ^^^^ Please direct all questions regarding the proposed new group to either one of the proposers, Stephan Trebels <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> or Carl Edman <cedman@cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU>. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric P. Baenen, Capt, USAF) Subject: Floppy Eject Problem Solved Message-ID: <1994Apr10.005807.28993@afit.af.mil> Keywords: floppy nextstep eject Sender: news@afit.af.mil Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology Distribution: comp.sys.next.software Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:58:07 GMT This is the follow up posting of the solution to my floppy eject problems. If you are running NeXTSTEP 3.0 on black hardware and are having problems ejecting floppy disks, here is what you do: ftp the file DiskEjectFix.rtfd from the NeXT ftp archive ftp.next.com It is in the directory /pub/Old_FTP_Files/Binaries Here is the text of this file: *********************************************************************** DiskEjectFix.daemon Enclosed is a fix for the 3.0 Workspace "Disk Eject" bug. Drag the icon to where you want it to live, such as /usr/local/bin or ~/Apps and launch. It should launch and quit in less than a second. Reactivate the File Viewer and log out. The next time you log in, it will autolaunch in the background and message Workspace so that other autolaunched apps do not trigger this bug. *********************************************************************** The DiskEjectFix daemon file is embedded in the rtf document. Just drag the file to the the appropriate directory and double click on it to run it. Then log out and log back in. That's all there is to it. Works like a champ, as usual for NeXTSTEP. Thanks to the many people who emailed me with the solution. -- Eric Baenen
From: nike@indirect.com (Laurence Canter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,pgh.forsale Subject: Green Card Lottery- Final One? Date: 12 Apr 1994 08:01:48 GMT Organization: Canter & Siegel Message-ID: <2odkhc$3gp@herald.indirect.com> Green Card Lottery 1994 May Be The Last One! THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED. The Green Card Lottery is a completely legal program giving away a certain annual allotment of Green Cards to persons born in certain countries. The lottery program was scheduled to continue on a permanent basis. However, recently, Senator Alan J Simpson introduced a bill into the U. S. Congress which could end any future lotteries. THE 1994 LOTTERY IS SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE SOON, BUT IT MAY BE THE VERY LAST ONE. PERSONS BORN IN MOST COUNTRIES QUALIFY, MANY FOR FIRST TIME. The only countries NOT qualifying are: Mexico; India; P.R. China; Taiwan, Philippines, North Korea, Canada, United Kingdom (except Northern Ireland), Jamaica, Domican Republic, El Salvador and Vietnam. Lottery registration will take place soon. 55,000 Green Cards will be given to those who register correctly. NO JOB IS REQUIRED. THERE IS A STRICT JUNE DEADLINE. THE TIME TO START IS NOW!! For FREE information via Email, send request to cslaw@indirect.com -- ***************************************************************** Canter & Siegel, Immigration Attorneys 3333 E Camelback Road, Ste 250, Phoenix AZ 85018 USA cslaw@indirect.com telephone (602)661-3911 Fax (602) 451-7617
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Hans Stoeger Subject: Re: What about new 64 bit accelerators? Message-ID: <Co52FE.Fv@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2ocjbv$f31@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 09:02:01 GMT In article <2ocjbv$f31@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: .. > but do these cards have 64-bit RAMDACs, as the matrox and new ATI cards > do? I simply don t know, i asume not, cause this are not high end cards, but there are NS drivers announced for the new ATI and a new card by miro based on the Weitek P9100. But the question is "do you really need drivers for cards nobody can by at the moment?" > > > We have a Pentium 66 working and there is no reason why a 90MHZ Pentium > > should not work with NEXTSTEP > > no reason, but no supported p60/90 is available from a NS reseller > as-of-yet (e.g., paradigm, alpine, gec, etc.) Right, they have to be certified and that takes time. I want the shipping system cerified, not a preproduction model. > > > [3] There are no better-than-EISA SCSI cards (e.g., the PCI NCR SCSI) > > yet > > > released (although talus has been working on it; interestingly, they > > don't > > > seem to get along with NeXT). NeXT has not made public any plans to > > port > > > to any. > > > > The PCI Version of the Buslogic SCSI Controller is available now. (And > > according to the documents it should work with NEXTSTEP) > > Does it work in 1542 mode, or can it handle multiple large hard disks > (i.e., 3GB hard disks)? Whe are going to test this controller in the near future. I ll know more then. Ciao Hans
From: jv@speedy.looneytunes (Jorg Vogler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Parallel Port problems on Gateway 66 V Date: 12 Apr 1994 12:03:44 GMT Organization: Wandel & Goltermann Technologies Distribution: world Message-ID: <JV.94Apr12080344@speedy.looneytunes> Hi folks, I tried to get my parallel port working so that I can use a printer with NS. I have a Gateway 66 V system (October 1993). The parallel port driver is installed and I set the port address to 3bc (this is what I get from my diagnosis program). There is no conflict with other port addresses in this area. I get error messages during boot times saying invalid port address. My system does not allow to change the parallel port address via CMOS - configuration (seems to be an older bios)to the Parallel Port Driver default value (378). Does anyone know a way, how I can get the parallel port to work under this circumstances ? Thanks for any advice ... Joerg (jv@wg.com) -- | Joerg Vogler | jv@is.danet.de | Rosenbergstr.72 | Danet IS | 7000 Stuttgart 1 | Waldburgstr. 17-19 | Germany | 7000 Stuttgart 80
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Subject: Experience with Quantum 1.8GB Empire HD wanted .. Message-ID: <1994Apr12.070920.3203@kurt.in-berlin.de> Keywords: Quantum, harddisc Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 07:09:20 GMT Hi, Does anybody out there has made some experiences with a Quantum 1.8GB Empire harddisc with black hardware? 1024/512 Blocks, format problems, etc. are welcome. Thanx Gerald -------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 puplic key available
From: levine@oclc.org (Eugene Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fdisk under NS/I 3.1 (dos partition) Date: 12 Apr 1994 10:08:34 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <2oea13$r9o@oclc.org> We currently have NeXTStep for Intel 3.1 running on an IBM ValuePoint 486DX266 with a SCSI hard drive (this copy of 3.1 is non upgradable). We've created a DOS partition of 60M yet when this partition is accessed either via NeXTStep or DOS, it lists the size of the partition as 428M - the complete size of our hard drive. This worries us since obviously much of the 428M is filled with NEXTSTEP. Thus far, we have avoided doing ANYTHING with the DOS partition as a result of this. Our NeXT systems analyst suggests using NeXTs Fdisk utility to re-partition the disk but did not offer any other information. He suggested reading the FAQ. However, after reading the information I could find (including the Man page) I am still a bit confused. Should I use fdisk to delete the 0h partition and re-add it. If so how do I do this. Here is some of the info from the system. Remember the goal is to have a 60M dos partition on this machine. At install time I thought I configured a 60M dos partition. nextpc28-01:53# df Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 370638 172066 161508 52% / /dev/rsd0h 445192 5976 439216 1% /no_name nextpc28-01:55# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -isDiskPartitioned Yes nextpc28-01:56# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -diskSize 435 nextpc28-01:57# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -isThereNeXTPartition Yes nextpc28-01:58# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -freeSpace 0 nextpc28-01:59# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -freeWONeXT 375 nextpc28-01:60# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -freeWONeXTorExt 375 nextpc28-01:61# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -sizeofExtended 0 nextpc28-01:62# fdisk /dev/rsd0h -installSize 375 thanks in advance, -gene -- / E. T. (Gene) Levine OCLC Inc. \ | levine@oclc.org 6565 Frantz Road | | NeXT mail welcome! Dublin, OH 43017 | \ OCLC => "Services for Libraries" (614) 761-5045 /
From: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what about the SLEEP mode for hard disks? Date: 12 Apr 1994 13:22:50 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2oe7ba$936@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> References: <cheLGei00iV5E4eaEA@andrew.cmu.edu> Now I am convinced the a drive should always spin. BUT... MODIFIED QUESTION: Is it good or bad to use the "sleep" mode which spins down a hard disk drive - WHICH IS USED ONLY FOR BACKUPS AND MOUNTED APPROXIMATELY ONCE A DAY ONLY FOR A SHORT TIME - after a prescribed time w/o access to it??? Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: davidsen@vienna.hh.lib.umich.edu (Sue Davidsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Disappearing disk Date: 12 Apr 1994 15:16:37 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Message-ID: <2oee0l$8de@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Keywords: SCSI I have a 1GB SCSI disk attached to my NextStation turbo running on NS3.0. The disk will mount at startup and will appear in the root directory for all users and root for maybe four or five logins. After that it disappears from the root directory and is inaccessible. What gives and, more importantly, how do I fix this? -- Susanna L. Davidsen davidsen@umich.edu Network Services Librarian Voice: 313-936-2364 209 HHGL North Fax: 313-764-0259 The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1205
From: ram@shukra.Eng.Sun.COM (Renu Raman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!!> Date: 12 Apr 1994 15:13:56 GMT Organization: Sun Message-ID: <2oedrk$rv9@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <CnsuGA.KwD@cix.compulink.co.uk> <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> In article <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> David.Halliday@ASU.Edu writes: >port of NEXTSTEP to the PowerPCs B-(, but that a port through OpenStep (is that >the correct capitalization?) on top of Solaris was likely (if not definite). >She did leave it open as to whether enough noise could be made to coerce NeXT >into a direct port so we don't have to rely on the vagaries of Sun and the >weaknesses of Solaris. I would like to understand the 'weakness' of Solaris - compared to the OS in NextStep or other multi-user OSes.. renu raman > > David Halliday -- -------------------------------- Renukanthan Raman Internet:renu.raman@Eng.Sun.COM M/S USUN02-301, 2500 Garcia Avenue, Tel :408-774-8299 Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, CA 94043
From: guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What about new 64 bit accelerators? Date: 12 Apr 1994 15:52:43 GMT Organization: The Smelly Ditch Message-ID: <2oeg4b$nak@bradley.bradley.edu> References: <Co3D6G.xw@tms-gmbh.de> <2ocjbv$f31@news.mic.ucla.edu> In article <2ocjbv$f31@news.mic.ucla.edu>, Ivo Welch <ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu> wrote: -} > miro and ELSA in Germany and Number Nine promised drivers for the new -} > S3 cards -} -} but do these cards have 64-bit RAMDACs, as the matrox and new ATI cards -} do? Number Nine has a version of their 64GXe Pro that uses the Ti3020 ramdac (rated for 200 MHz, that's 1600x1200 @ 80 Hz) and is (I'm fairly sure) 64-bits wide. (More specs include S3 964 w/ 4 meg of VRAM retail $999). Personally I'm waiting for a card with 8 meg of VRAM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jerry Whelan guru@stasi.bradley.edu
From: fxg@gurdilo.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Extra drive for slab: which one? Date: 12 Apr 94 18:33:38 Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen Message-ID: <FXG.94Apr12183339@gurdilo.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, this has to be a FAQ and similar things have been asked a lot as I've seen, but I didn't see answers. I tried the comp.periphs.scsi FAQ to no avail. Here's my problem: I want to add a second SCSI drive to a NeXTstation/25/040/8/400. I have a choice between a Maxtor .5GB drive and a Conner 1GB drive. The medium access times are given as 11 and 9 ms, respectively. Yes, I'd LOVE to have transfer rates or anything! To the quiz: 1) Any exceptional experiences with one of these? 2) Will a speed difference be noticeable? 3) Where can I get more detailed Info on available drives? 4) Is there a hard disk perfmeter out there? If you want to recommend other drives: I'm looking for a fast >= 0.5 GB drive, in the 1K *DM* range. (exchange rate is about 1$ ~ 1.60?) Ready to pay more for a bigger, noticeably (!) faster drive. -- Felix (fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeout report #2 Message-ID: <Apr.12.12.59.29.1994.3475@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 12 Apr 94 16:59:30 GMT References: <2npsso$9p@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2ns15b$iu3@tribune.usask.ca> <next2.765579196@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: >Just be happy about it. But I think more than 10 persons with similar >problems are enough to point out that something has to be done against it. >If your system were unstable, you'd know what I meant with 'unreliable'. >BTW: What devices did you connect to your 2022? Fast-SCSI-II harddisk drives? >My theory is that it only happens with new fast drives. No, I've had this happen with older drives too. It was particularly bad in 3.1 with a NICE motherboard and old DPT ROMS and 10m/sec transfer rates. I dont get catastrophic EATA's anymore, they just time out the system, re- synch, time out, re-synch etc... A hard reboot seems to clear out this cold. Anyway, if you have this promblem, somethings that seem to aleviate it are: - Get NS 3.2 - Reconfigure the DPT properly, and use only 5m/sec transfers also maybe push the smart rom from c800 to d800 (im not sure about the exact address space, so dont quote me on it). - Get the newest DPT ROMS for your card. BTW, cache seems to screw with opticals in a really horrible way (talkin big 16megs+ cache). Later, and good luck John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rsb2b@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Ralph S. Buckley) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Message-ID: <Co5KCy.GKI@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: uva References: <2o895e$dt9@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:29:22 GMT Count my vote in for NeXTSTEP for PPC.... Obviously, for the NeXTSTEP platform to work for me, more software would have to be available before I would committ to the OS. Ralph Univ of Virginia -- Ralph Buckley University of Virginia Department of Medicine RSB2B@VIRGINIA.EDU
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Swaptimizer and Ext. SwapDisk Usage Date: 12 Apr 1994 17:59:52 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <2oenio$3v9@wave.aoml.erl.gov> I just started using a new Seagate 11200 external HD with my colorslab (non-turbo) at home. I installed NS3.2 on it and, after having read NeXTanswers about the use of swap disks and the swaptimizer, I decided to assign the primary swapfile to my Seagate since it is faster than the internal Quantum 105 on the slab. I have to lowatermark set at 16 and hiwater at 56 MB and compress to enable the swaptimizer but I noticed that the size of the swapfile is 13MB and there is no swapfile.front in /private/vm. I had intended to leave the 3.1 system files on the internal HD so that my wife can use the machine if I decide to take the external drive on a trip or in case it breaks down. I have noticed that when i try to run some programs, e.g. movie.app, there is a lot of disk activity as the anim file is loaded and then I get a spinning disk icon forever and have to power off the machine. There is nothing obvious wrong in my messages file but when I do a verbose boot I get a message about "swent line too long" cant remember exact wording my notes are at home. Anyway, I have wondered whether this might be related to using the swaptimizer and an external swapfile. Anyone have comments or suggestions who may have tried this? -- Dr. Mark D. Powell Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149 Voice (305) 361-4403 Fax (305) 361-4402
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Parallel Port problems on Gateway 66 V Date: 12 Apr 1994 18:54:18 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2oeqoq$63v@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <JV.94Apr12080344@speedy.looneytunes> In article <JV.94Apr12080344@speedy.looneytunes>, Jorg Vogler <jv@speedy.looneytunes> wrote: >Hi folks, > >I tried to get my parallel port working so that I can use a printer with >NS. I have a Gateway 66 V system (October 1993). The parallel port driver >is installed and I set the port address to 3bc (this is what I get from >my diagnosis program). There is no conflict with other port addresses >in this area. > >I get error messages during boot times saying invalid port address. >My system does not allow to change the parallel port address via >CMOS - configuration (seems to be an older bios)to the Parallel Port >Driver default value (378). > >Does anyone know a way, how I can get the parallel port to work under >this circumstances ? Go into the CMOS setup for the Gateway machine and designate the on-board parallel port as LPT-2. This will assign it an address of x378. Then the default configuration of NS on LPT-1 @ x378 will work just fine. Good Luck -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC Pentium any good? Message-ID: <1994Apr12.122303.15851@cc.usu.edu> Date: 12 Apr 94 12:23:03 MDT References: <kci-100494182331@ppp-001.teleport.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Utah State University In article <kci-100494182331@ppp-001.teleport.com>, kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > Is anyone using a NEC pentium box?? How about the ZEOS pentium Pantera?? I am right now. What do you want to know? I am in the process of running some benchmarks for comparison. The results I have from the ByteBenchmark are: BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 3.11) System -- localhost Start Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 5 16:13:39 GMT-0600 1994 2 interactive users. Dhrystone 2 without register variables 86575.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Dhrystone 2 using register variables 86979.8 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = arithoh) 272473.0 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = register) 8924.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = short) 8286.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = int) 8924.9 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = long) 8924.3 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = float) 10460.7 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = double) 10454.4 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) System Call Overhead Test 21739.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe Throughput Test 10155.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching Test 3075.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Process Creation Test 90.1 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) Execl Throughput Test 63.6 lps (9 secs, 6 samples) File Read (10 seconds) 38122.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Write (10 seconds) 600.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (10 seconds) 512.0 KBps (10 secs, 6 samples) File Read (30 seconds) 38577.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) File Copy (30 seconds) 504.0 KBps (30 secs, 6 samples) C Compiler Test 54.5 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (1 concurrent) 61.7 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (2 concurrent) 32.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (4 concurrent) 16.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 8.0 lpm (60 secs, 3 samples) Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 1828.8 lpm (60 secs, 6 samples) Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 1368.2 lps (10 secs, 6 samples) /LocalLibrary/ByteBenchmark/pgms/index.base /tmp/25425.dat INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Arithmetic Test (type = double) 2703.3 10454.4 3.9 Arithmetic Test (type = long) 2827.0 8924.3 3.2 Arithmetic Test (type = register) 2847.5 8924.4 3.1 C Compiler Test 24.1 54.5 2.3 Dhrystone 2 without register variables 24179.3 86575.2 3.6 Execl Throughput Test 23.7 63.6 2.7 File Copy (30 seconds) 518.0 504.0 1.0 File Read (30 seconds) 18288.0 38577.0 2.1 File Write (30 seconds) 600.0 600.0 1.0 Pipe-based Context Switching Test 1153.5 3075.1 2.7 Process Creation Test 34.0 90.1 2.6 Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi 323.8 1368.2 4.2 Shell scripts (8 concurrent) 3.8 8.0 2.1 ========= SUM of 13 items 34.4 AVERAGE 2.6 Shortly I will post the results of several systems, including the NXBench benchmark values for your viewing pleasure. ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fred@wicket.fdn.org (Frederic Pralong) Subject: Re: Where to buy Miro 32s video cards Message-ID: <1994Apr9.125054.5287@wicket.fdn.org> Sender: news@wicket.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Paris -France References: <1994Apr8.123019.9728@metasoft.fdn.org> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 12:50:54 GMT Thierry, We distribute this card in Paris, and more other things ... FReD In article <1994Apr8.123019.9728@metasoft.fdn.org> Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org writes: > In article <2o1mlh$4s@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU > (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > > In article <2o1d85$13s@news.doit.wisc.edu>, > > M Haker <haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote: > > > > > >I'm having great difficulty finding someone who sells the Miro Crystal > > >32s video card. Do you have to order directly from Miro Germany? > [...] > > Bought mine from Alpine (1-800-748-4558) for $764 + shipping ($10). > [...] > > You can also buy from Miro (1-800-862-5678) division in Silicon Valley, > > but it is more ($899). They'll supply NS drivers too if asked. > > And what about Miro products in Europe ? Who knows the e-mail address of > Miro in Germany or un importateur des cartes Miro en France (qui aurait > aussi les drivers NEXTSTEP...) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax:(+33) 99 35 00 45 > Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Frederic Pralong Paris France The Object Factory 5 rue de la cour des Noues 75020 Paris France temporary NeXT e-mail : frederic_pralong@tof.fdn.org
From: dwestern@axysdev.krldwa.mccaw.com (Dale Western) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer problems Date: 12 Apr 1994 20:09:50 GMT Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <2oev6e$14m@ftp-p.mccaw.com> Keywords: printer I have had this NeXT printer about 5yrs now and last night after printing a page the printer seemed to turn off. Once off, I could never get it to power up (i.e. never heard the fan start). If I used PrintManger or rebooted the machine in an attempt to force the printer to start all I would get is this funny clicking sound. It sounded like a relay or circuit break turning on and off. This would happen about 5 times before the system would report an IO error on the device. The machine is on a UPS and is usually turned off after printing with a shell script I have. After the page printed I never got a chance to turn it off myself, it just seemed to power down on its own. Any ideas? _____________________________________________________________________ Dale Western McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc. Axys CC Development P.O. Box 97060 Kirkland, WA 98083-9760
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Re: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Message-ID: <Co63qA.JAx@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <Cnw5uK.3A1@moksha.uucp> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 22:30:08 GMT In article <Cnw5uK.3A1@moksha.uucp> mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) writes: > In article <1994Apr7.014552.23843@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu > (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > > In article <2nv2j3$1bu@machthenext.dannug.dk> work@dannug.dk (Michael > > Hmm. When I first got a NSC 3 years ago, I immediately added some memory. The > 2 4 meg simms I got were in fact double-sided. It was very tight, but they > fit. Is there a difference in thickness b/w a 2 sided 4 meg simm and a 2 > sided 8 meg simm ? ( btw, I don't see these 2 sided 4 meg simms anymore....) > > Has the installation of 8 meg simms actually been tried, or only speculated > upon ? > I have had 4 8MB sims in my next station for 2 years, no prob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: keithw@fiji.umhc.umn.edu (Keith Willard) Subject: wireless nextstep Message-ID: <Co615y.HnG@news.cis.umn.edu> Keywords: wireless, pen based, RF Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: comp Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:35:09 GMT We could benefit mightily from having a nextstep based portable with the following characteristics: 1) a pen/stylus pointing device input 2) high band width wireless link (like a spread spectrum RF) with 1-2 m bandwidth 3) voice input i have seen a platform like this demo'd in the NT world using a compaq pen laptop (didn't find out the name of the RF or sound hardware used) as the base. in the nextworld i know of the NEC versa product (although i have not yet heard whether the pen drivers are available) but do not have any leads with regard to RF or sound products that might work with it. it has been suggested that there may be some DOS world RF products that work by appearing like a ethernet card at the hardware level, therefore making it straightforward to get working with nextstep. does anybody have any specific experience or information on putting together this kind of a platform? ---------------------------------- Keith Willard Laboratory Medicine and Pathology University of Minnesota <keithw@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu>
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can't play audio CDs on black hw Date: 12 Apr 1994 15:31:11 -0700 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <2of7ff$r3s@darkstar.isi.edu> I haven't been able to make audio CDs play on my system (25MHz Nextstation, 3.2, Apple CD-150). The hard disk is at SCSI id 1, the CD-ROM at SCSI id 2. If I try to automount an audio CD, it spits the disk back out and gives me these messages on console.log: sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 ^Msd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84 ^M SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) ^Msd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 ^Msd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84 ^M SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) ^Msd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 ^Msd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84 ^M SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) ^Msd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 ^Msd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x84 ^M SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) ^M DISK UNFORMATTED ^M Disk is Write Protected ^Mprobing for CDROM probing for DOS probing for mac sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x43 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 ^Msd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 ^M SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) ^Mcdutil: sendCommand error:Sense key: 5, code: 24 probing for cdaudio If I first start up CDPlayer and then insert the disk when prompted, I get the same messages (except for the 'probing for ...' ones), and then the part below repeats indefinitely until I eject the disk: sd1 (2,0): ERROR op:0x43 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 ^Msd1 (2,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 ^M SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) ^Mcdutil: sendCommand error:Sense key: 5, code: 24 Any ideas? I've turned on public window, public sound (and display EPS securely), rebooted the machine. The release notes aren't any help. As far as I know, this drive is the same one than Next used to sell (scsimodes identifies it as a SONY CD-ROM CDU-8002). thanks, --mike (carlton@isi.edu)
From: pas@phantom.com (Paul Shetler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 16 Mb. Maximum on Compaq? Date: 13 Apr 1994 01:58:34 GMT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Message-ID: <2ofjka$7f3@dockmaster.phantom.com> I have NS/FIP 3.2 running on a Compaq Deskpro XE 560. Although it has 24Mb installed, NS only sees 16Mb RAM at boot and after allocating buffers only 13.X Mb are left for doing anything. Does anyone know anything about this kind of problem? Is this a limitation of NS, of the Compaq, or can it be fixed? Any and all suggestions, comments, etc., are highly appreciated! Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Subject: TWO optical disk drives in a single cube ?? Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <Co72Hu.KvL@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 10:58:41 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Hello, does anybody know if its possible to put a second optical drive (one of those original NeXT drives) into a Cube, and use both of them at once ? There is a /dev/od1*, but only one odc0. And od1* seems to handle the first drive, too. Try a mount /dev/od1a /mnt, when a optical is already inserted. But anyway, my cube has two slots on the frontcover for optical drives, so I suppose it should work ?!? Thanx for any help, a second drive would definitely be nice !! -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Date: 13 Apr 1994 05:04:57 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ofuhp$8r9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> <2ocibk$3ct@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <2ocibk$3ct@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: >Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.handheld.com> writes: >> stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) writes: >> > >> > Hello ! >> > >> > I have a CD-ROM SCSI driver connected to my Station. >> > When I don t use it, I turn it off, but the Console will >> > give me every second this message: >> > >> > sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0 >> > >> > Is there a way to avoid that (without to turn the driver on :-) >> > Thank you for any info... >> >> With the exception of possible specially designed SCSI devices, >> all devices in a SCSI chain MUST ALWAYS be powered up when the >> bus is active. You risk damage to the data on your internal >> drive by operating with power off on any SCSI device in the chain. > >If you're saying what I think you're saying, you're not quite >right. If your computer is off, you can set most modern SCSI >devices in whatever state (on or off) you want, and then turn >the computer on. Once the computer *running*, then it is a bad >idea to take any of those SCSI devices and change their state >(from on to off, or from off to on). > >It isn't that the SCSI device "MUST ALWAYS" be powered up >when the scsi bus is active, it's that it is very unwise >to change the state of SCSI devices while the bus is active. >"Very unwise" meaning you can lose all the data on your >hard disk. Now, you can often "get away" with turning >SCSI devices on/off or even unplugging them on Mac when >it's running, but don't be fooled by success. You're >basically playing russian roulette, and if you do it often >enough you are certain to blow something somewhere. > >However, I've never heard of anyone having any problems >if they have a SCSI device attached and just decided to >leave it off while powering up the system. Of course, >that means that if you want to use the device you first >have to shut down the system, then turn on the device, >then bring the system back up. > >One possible exception to the above rule is Sun workstations. >My friends with Sun's blithly add or remove SCSI devices on >the fly all the time. I still think it's extremely risky to >do that, but somehow they get away with it and apparently >haven't been burnt by doing it. > To add my lot with the rest, I have a NeXT color printer with my NS/I sytem, and I often turn it on only when I need to print while in NEXTSTEP. I haven't had _ANY_ problems whatsoever when doing this. The printer dutifully prints any queued jobs once it is turned on. *It just works* I fully appreciate the problems with this, and I recommend that anybody thinking of doing this should be cautious. I do have it properly terminated, and it is the only external scsi device on my sytem. Varun PS - not to diverge, but has anybody gotten the NeXT color printer (Canon BJC 820) to work from within DOS/Windows with Windows drivers?
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 01:43:10 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <hw3uKVW.jhepp@delphi.com> References: <2nt9i0$1g1@network.ucsd.edu> <2nv2j3$1bu@machthenext.dannug.dk> Michael Hallin <work@dannug.dk> writes: >I sure would like to know, too, as this is probably one thing that can >make a NeXT fly, adding more memory.... I'm Damn Curious Too. Word I got was that the system wouldn't recognize more than 32 meg. Sometimes I don't know what I'm talking about, sometimes others --official others-- don't either. It's a , memory thing. Jeff.
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: eCesys Eval #2 available Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 02:12:23 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <p2yNCjf.ecesys@delphi.com> eCesys is in the process of replacing its "Road Warrior" demo machines which have been used as Evaluation Units at different customer sites. We have sold the first of three, and now have the second one available. All units are in good condition, If you have an interest in these Wingine-based machines, please send an email to ecesys@delphi.com and we will send you info and price. Road Warrior #2 ( RW #1 has been sold) Intel 486DX/2-66MHZ Processor (upgradable to P24T) 2nd Generation Wingine, 2 MB VRAM 17" monitor(0.26 dot pitch) 256K RAM DPT 2021 SCSI controller 3.5" 1.44MB FDD 101 Focus keyboard MSMouse(white) PS/2 Minitower case w/ 250 Watt Power supply 32MB RAM 525 MB SCSI Hard Drive Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM Microsoft Sound System Intel EtherExpress Combo LAN Card System is black: Notes: System is in excellent condition.
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Message-ID: <Apr.13.02.10.01.1994.23507@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 13 Apr 94 06:10:02 GMT References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce) writes: >Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying >"NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" >I kind of suspect there would be many. Welp, there would be me and at least 4 friends w/o net access that would buy a mac JUST for NS--forget it even being able to run mac apps! Later, John
From: fxg@strawinsky.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50mhz 68040 accelerator for black (YES! WANT IT! DO IT!) Date: 13 Apr 1994 07:25:06 GMT Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik III, RWTH Aachen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <FXG.94Apr13092507@strawinsky.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <1994Mar14.201839.7292@drefla.mese.com> <2m940k$eaj@nntp.crl.com> <2mq1sb$n0b@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-reply-to: chipsig@kaiwan.com's message of 23 Mar 1994 10:30:35 -0800 50Mhz Upgrade --- I like that! In case anyone involved with this is listening in: I want that thing! What will the complete price tag be, including board exchange? Or in what way will it be done? Are there other changes coming with it? Real SCSI-II / Fast-SCSI? When / Where / For what machines will it be available? It's real nice to hear that someone, apparently, still works on "Black" hardware! -- Felix (fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization fails Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <Co7AAI.tn@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:47:05 GMT References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen In article <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> iwj@white.dogwood.com (Ian Jackson) writes: > RESULT > comp.sys.next.hardware reorganisation > > Each new group requires at least twice as many yes as no votes and at > least 100 more yes than no votes; accordingly none of the proposed new > groups will be created and comp.sys.next.hardware will remain. > The proposal may not be raised again for at least 6 months. Great !! really great !! So I still have to wade through all the intel postings, that i dont have the slightest interest in, just to find the few, that are still related with black hardware. Oh come on !! This is NONSENSE !!! Can any of the people the voted NO, please tell me a SINGLE reason why they did it ?? Or can they give me a program, that automatically removes all intel related postings and only leaves black ones ? Since the existence of Nextstep FIP, and all these postings "I have a XXX motherboard, and a YYY (controller|soundcard|whatever) and Im using interrupt 4711h and the ROM begins at $AFFE" I wanted the splitup of the newsgroup. As I read about the vote taking, i thought, great, at last they do it, no one with a sane mind would vote against it. Nut it seemed, Im wrong. This really makes me ANGRY !!! No thanx, -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the deal with Keyboards? Date: 13 Apr 1994 01:12:39 -0700 Organization: Pigdog Journal Message-ID: <2og9hn$s2n@crl.crl.com> Summary: Keyboards! Keywords: Keyboard Since I installed NEXTSTEP 3.2 Intel, I've only been having problems with keyboards. The keyboard that I was using locks the system at boot with an "unexpected ACK from keyboard" message. So I traded keyboards with some other machines, and I only found ONE keyboard that would work with NEXTSTEP--an old, crummy Mitsumi keyboard that someone spray painted. It's really ugly, but the worst thing about it is that it has mushy keys. I want my nice IBM Model M keyboard, or Zeos Keyboard back!! What kind of weird problem is this? Is it my machine? I think it must be NEXTSTEP 3.2 because it used to work with NEXTSTEP 3.1... Is there anything I can do?? Thanks for your help in advance. Zach
From: gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Gianfranco Pocecai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group offers ftpmail service for NEXTSTEP Users Date: 13 Apr 1994 09:40:56 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ogen8$4rc@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group offers ftpmail service for NEXTSTEP Users. Ftpmail is an email->ftp gateway. Just send your requests to ftpmail@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it. It will ftp the files and send them back to you via email. You can get the list of valid commands to the ftpmail gateway by sending an email to ftpmail@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it with 'help' in the body of the message. The default ftp site is the Italian NEXTSTEP User Group ftp site. There you can find a lot of MAB software + submissions from cs.orst.edu & sonata.cc.purdue.edu + NeXTAsnwers + FAQs + images + sounds + OOP stuff + MathPackages + Benchmarks + ... And now happy mailing!!! Gianfranco -- Gianfranco Pocecai President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group University of Milano - Computer Science Department Via Comelico, 39/41 20135 Milano - Italy E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Subject: enable "sleeping" harddisks ?? Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <Co7HJn.3nz@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 16:23:47 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Hello, does someone know about a tool, that turns off the harddisk of a cube after a specific time, when its not used ? I need this, because my harddisk is just TOO loud, and i cant sleep when its running all the night :) Thanx for any help ! -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Hans Stoeger Subject: Re: 16 Mb. Maximum on Compaq? Message-ID: <Co732x.ru@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2ofjka$7f3@dockmaster.phantom.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:11:21 GMT In article <2ofjka$7f3@dockmaster.phantom.com> pas@phantom.com (Paul Shetler) writes: > > I have NS/FIP 3.2 running on a Compaq Deskpro XE 560. Although it has > 24Mb installed, NS only sees 16Mb RAM at boot and after allocating > buffers only 13.X Mb are left for doing anything. Does anyone know > anything about this kind of problem? Is this a limitation of NS, of the > Compaq, or can it be fixed? Any and all suggestions, comments, etc., are > highly appreciated! > > Thanks! Thats an old problem, i guess there is a NeXTAnswer for it. But basically somewhere in the setup or the EISA ConfigurationUtility you just have to set the memory adressing from Compaq compatible to linear. Thats all! Hope it helps Hans
From: fxg@schumann.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Felix Gatzemeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Extra drive for slab: which one? --- some tips Date: 13 Apr 1994 15:12:41 GMT Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik III, RWTH Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <FXG.94Apr13171242@schumann.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <FXG.94Apr12183339@gurdilo.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-reply-to: fxg@gurdilo.tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de's message of 12 Apr 94 18:33:38 In serious breach of comm.standards, I followup my FAQ'ish post with some RTFM information. It occured to me some other people might want find this pointer useful: Do check out iostat when considering to speed up your system with a hard disk. I ran it today like "iostat 10s", to get stats in 10 second intervals. For each drive, you get Blocks (? K's?) per second, avg seek time and # of transfers. Then there's tty stats and cpu stats. Create a lot of I/O activity, like launching every app you got. For me, it peaked at 367 K/s, at which time the cpu was ~50% idle! OK, for the more experienced readers, a few Q's: 1) how reliable are these figures? How do I set up a real test? 2) Is my assumption correct, that high I/O with idle CPU is an indicator to more I/O power being a boon? How do I check non-HD transfer limits (limits not caused by the drive, but by the bus, the OS, etc.)? Thanx -- Felix (fxg@(([Pool|I3].Informatik)|(Tolkien.ImIB)).RWTH-Aachen.de NeXT-Mail ok, but slow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann) Subject: Send me pictures for /LocalLibrary/Images/People Message-ID: <1994Apr13.072010.7364@rafa.in-berlin.de> Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de Organization: DRN Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 07:20:10 GMT Hallo, After I installed the faces.tar.Z from cs.orst. I am missing nearly everybody from the next newsgroup. I will be very happy to see who is writing so please send me small pictures by NeXT-email. But take care that they are really really small (hope not to get to much flames but sorry what's multimedia without medias ?-) and from the size not bigger than 64x64 pixels. Please remember: give it the correct name i.e.: fuuu@grgrgrg.bla.com must be fuu.grgrgrg.bla.com.tiff Thanks a lot in advance Ralf If I get enough together I will put them on an ftp-server and post where to get them or send them to Carl Edman who is moderating the faces library since a long time. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% *| Ralf Neumann | ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de | Try NeXTmail please! |* *| ************ | Voice +49 30 / 321 78 84 | Fax +49 30 / 321 28 68|* %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 50Mhz Accelerator for Black - surely it's just rumours ... Date: 13 Apr 1994 20:19:32 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2ohk4k$oop@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Isn't it? Please tell me I'm wrong! ------------------------------ "Wir haben das Problem eingekreist : ---------------- - Intel Inside! - ---------------- rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Flash!) Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep difference... Originator: news@lafcol Sender: usenet@Lehigh.EDU Message-ID: <1994Apr13.184119.30727@Lehigh.EDU> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:41:19 GMT References: <2obt48$r1@cerberus.wsc.com> Organization: Lehigh University Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Darcy Brockbank (samurai@wsc.com) wrote: : NeXT will have the following: : - NEXTSTEP/PowerPC (rumored) Not likely in the near future. Maybe by Summer '95. They have not put any work into that project for a long time now. : Sun will make Solaris OpenStep compliant through licensing of : NEXTSTEP source code from NeXT, and building it in. Not quite. If you view an OS (Solaris) as abstract layers, the very top FEW will be OpenStep (ie: looks exactly like NeXT Step). : So you have two options for running OpenStep compliant applications : on Sun hardware: 1) get NEXTSTEP/Sparc, or 2) get Solaris. In fact, NeXT is currently producing a version of NeXT Step to run on Sparcs AS WELL AS OpenStep/Solaris. So you actually have three choices: NeXTStep/Sparc OpenStep & Solaris/ Sparc Solaris / Sparc : If the above is wrong, please correct me... Hope I've been of some help. -- smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: Opinions on NSFIP on DEC pc XL? Message-ID: <1994Apr13.180020.29051@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:00:20 GMT Did you try it? Did you like it? Did you use the Viper board? What about SCSI (does DEC sell the Talus driver?)? Thanks, Andreas -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization fails Message-ID: <Co7p5I.EL@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <Co7AAI.tn@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:08:06 GMT In article <Co7AAI.tn@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes: > > > > Each new group requires at least twice as many yes as no votes and at > > least 100 more yes than no votes; accordingly none of the proposed new > > groups will be created and comp.sys.next.hardware will remain. > > The proposal may not be raised again for at least 6 months. > > Great !! really great !! > > Oh come on !! This is NONSENSE !!! Can any of the people the voted NO, > please tell me a SINGLE reason why they did it ?? Or can they give > me a program, that automatically removes all intel related postings > and only leaves black ones ? > The vote did not fail because a majority voted no, it failed because the amount of yes vs no votes was not significant, or to put it another way...... not enough people voted yes. That's democracy in action. As for why the no votes, look at the discussion during the RFD and CFV. -- _______________ Karl Kraft I don't speak for trapac, and they don't speak for me. Karl_Kraft@trapac.com -- _______________ Karl Kraft I don't speak for trapac, and they don't speak for me. Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
From: jimmorri@prostar.com (JimMorrison) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB ** Xerox 4030 Laser Printer ** Message-ID: <523.UUL1.3#25307@prostar.com> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:32:27 PST Organization: ProStar Plus I am looking to buy a Xerox 4030 laser printer in GOOD condition.
From: berk@berk.commerce.ubc.ca (Jonathan Berk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: notebook Date: 14 Apr 1994 00:00:56 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <2oi13o$aae@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I want to buy a notebook that will run NeXTstep. Does anyone have any experience with them? Is any particular notebook configuration recommended? Is the limited screen size a problem and is 2 bit grey scale ok?
From: devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: TWO optical disk drives in a single cube ?? Date: 14 Apr 1994 00:00:28 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <2oi12s$kie@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <Co72Hu.KvL@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> In article <Co72Hu.KvL@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes: > Hello, > > does anybody know if its possible to put a second optical drive (one of > those original NeXT drives) into a Cube, and use both of them at once ? You could always stick an '030 board in there as well. Crude, but effective. -- David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK) University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization fails Date: 13 Apr 1994 16:46:24 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2oh7l0$s3k@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> <Co7AAI.tn@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> In article <Co7AAI.tn@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, Marc Guenther <yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de> wrote: >In article <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> >iwj@white.dogwood.com (Ian Jackson) writes: >> RESULT >> comp.sys.next.hardware reorganisation >> >>...... > >Great !! really great !! > >So I still have to wade through all the intel postings, that i dont >have the slightest interest in, just to find the few, that are still >related with black hardware. >Oh come on !! This is NONSENSE !!! Can any of the people the voted NO, >please tell me a SINGLE reason why they did it ?? Or can they give >me a program, that automatically removes all intel related postings >and only leaves black ones ? > >Since the existence of Nextstep FIP, and all these postings "I have a >XXX motherboard, and a YYY (controller|soundcard|whatever) and Im >using interrupt 4711h and the ROM begins at $AFFE" I wanted the splitup >of the newsgroup. As I read about the vote taking, i thought, great, at >last they do it, no one with a sane mind would vote against it. Nut >it seemed, Im wrong. > >This really makes me ANGRY !!! As one of those with an "insane" mind and speaking purely for myself, I'm sorry you are so angry. Perhaps your news reader has a kill file in which you can include key phrases like "intel" or "FIP" to shield you from this domain. My own humble view of the matters is that while I am not opposed to the division in principle I feel it is somewhat premature. While some matters are clear cut Intel or Black issues, some things are not. Those that are not of interest to you can easily be filtered out with the appropriate reader. When the other hardware ports become more of a reality perhaps then there will be enough experience and clarity of purpose on the net to make the division of the hardware domain more useful. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: dexter@lclark.edu (Michael Dexter) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Message-ID: <1994Apr14.013430.14405@lclark.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:34:30 GMT : I would also be very interested in being able to choose NS for my Power : Macintosh, if for no other reason than having an alternative. A distinction between PowerMacintosh and PowerPC (in general) is in order. PowerMacintosh is obviously Apple's use of the chip, and like the 68k Macs, no non-apple operating systems run on it. (except under emulation) (ie. SoftPC...) As for PowerPC, IBM is soon coming out with the PReP architecture standard which, like the DOS standard that evolved from the XT up to the 486 etc (clones etc.) this is a standard based on the PPC chip, rather than Intel. NeXTStep for PPC would most likely go to this platform, given that 7 operating systems are supposedly headed for it already and I've read that the PowerMacintosh will be PReP compatable within a few years. For info on all of this, the recent Byte magazine has excellent coverage of all of this. Bye. Michael dexter@lclark.edu -- Michael. dexter@lclark.edu _________________________________________________________ Michael J. Dexter PDX Office: (503) 768-8959
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 50Mhz Accelerator for Black - surely it's just rumours ... Date: 13 Apr 1994 22:16:58 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ohr0q$6gr@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <2ohk4k$oop@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Rainer Frohnhoefer writes ) ) Isn't it? ) ) Please tell me I'm wrong! You're wrong. (You asked for it. :-) ) Actually, I have heard such a beast is very likely to exist soon. I have no details beyond that so don't even ask me. Let's keep hoping for it, right? -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: chwastyk@jordan.nrl.navy.mil (Tom Chwastyk) Subject: HELP - why is my 70ns ram showing up as 100ns? (black cube) Message-ID: <Co80Ar.BIJ@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 23:08:49 GMT I just put 8 4x8 70ns SIMMS from Chip Merchant into my NeXT cube. Nice not to thrash so much anymore, but it shows up on the kernel monitor boot as 100ns ram. Is there something I and my sysadmin don't know that would get this to rated speed? Do I have reason to argue with Chip Merchant (otherwise great price and sales service, but no NeXT tech support ... "If it ain't a Mac, we can't tell you" ):-( ). Would getting to 70ns make much difference for a 25MHz 040? Email or post - thanks. NeXTMail fine. -- Tom Chwastyk Naval Research Laboratory, Washington DC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Message-ID: <Co81t5.1ov@dvorak.amd.com> Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <usenet-120494145119@lowry.eche.ualberta.ca> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 23:41:27 GMT In article <usenet-120494145119@lowry.eche.ualberta.ca> usenet@lowry.eche.ualberta.ca (Brian Lowry) writes: >>In article <Co2roL.4yy@genesis.nred.ma.us>, nraymond@genesis.nred.ma.us >>(NATHAN RAYMOND) wrote: >> >>> "Any computer Next built would have to have certain minimum performance >>> standards to avoid competing with Apple products - a provision >>> Steve [Jobs] and his colleagues thought would make a great >>> marketing document, since it stated that Next couldn't build a computer >>> that didn't perform significantly better than Apple's." >> >> It's abundantly clear from even a broad non-legal reading of this that it >>has nothing to do with software, so obviously the effect on NeXTStep for >>PPC would be nil. However, Apple has never let little things such as past >>agreements stand in the way of threatened litigation, so I expect NeXT >>won't be doing much on the PPC chip. Actually, since the NeXT OS really >>isn't that wonderful (it's cumbersome and overly complex - it also achieves >>the unthinkable and makes installation harder than DOS/Windows) compared to >>virtually any alternative (Mac, OS/2, XWindows, plain unix, etc.), I'd >>question why NeXT exists at all... >> Bullshit. Let me relate my 3.2 installation experience for a datapoint... 1) I stuck the 3.2 cdrom in the drive 2) I double-clicked on the Upgrade.app 3) Waited about 5 minutes while it figured out what files it was going to change. 4) The Upgrade.app then shows me (in a slick browser interface) what files it's going to delete, update, and ignore. 5) I look at this for about 2 seconds and think to myself "Well that sure looks pretty" 6) Press the Upgrade button 7) Go away for 45 minutes 8) Return 9) Restart the machine 10) Resume working Oh...BTW, my machine is the NetInfo host for a number of machines, lives in and cooperates with sea of HP715, HP735, VAX, Sun machines. This includes user accounts, e-mail, nfs, usenet, and all that stuff. Repeat the above experience 4 times + 1 time for an unnetworked machine. It still just works! -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Opinions on NSFIP on DEC pc XL? Date: 14 Apr 1994 04:45:59 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oihq7$lka@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Apr13.180020.29051@aplki.toppoint.de> In article <1994Apr13.180020.29051@aplki.toppoint.de> ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) writes: > Did you try it? We floor the machines because they work SO well, although we also expect DG's Pentium/PCI box to function as well (the XL 566 (Pentium Box) in the 32/535MB Configuration runs at 57 MIPS. It also provides an upgrade path to the Alpha. > Did you like it? We believe this is the best box out there (albeit constrained by a large Federal Government order presently...the XL Server is great looking box as well. We should have a 90MHz version by our 25 April seminar here in Research Triangle Park. > Did you use the Viper board? That is the board this machine is to be certified with...although NeXT's new hardware compatibility guide STILL does not have this box in it. > What about SCSI (does DEC sell the Talus driver?)? No, I have heard that it's a little more like that NCR will purchase the driver from Talus and give it to NeXT. > Thanks, Dave -- Paradigm Shift Corporation info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXT Object Channel Partner 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: randy@id.com (Randy Tidd) Subject: Can't power-up a color station Message-ID: <Co8836.nn@id.com> Sender: randy@id.com (Randy) Organization: Intrinsic Development Corporation, Inc. Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:57:06 GMT First, is there an FAQ for this group? If so, where? I have a color station that won't power up. When I hit the power key on the keyboard I get nothing at all. I suddenly realized that it was off one day that I had a lot of company over, including some kids, so the possibilities are endless. I unplugged it and took the lithium battery out for an hour and shorted across the battery terminals to discharge the capacitors and after I got everything back together it still didn't work. I took out the power supply and checked for loose wires, a blown fuse, or any obvious damage and didn't find anything (the fuse was intact). I swapped in another power supply that I know works and it still didn't power up. I took apart the color box looking for loose wires, a blown fuse, or any obvious damage and found nothing. Next I am going to find another point kit and swap that in. What else can I try? Replies by e-mai preferred. Thanks -- -- Randy Tidd (randy@id.com) "Those that God wants to destroy he first makes mad."
From: devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I use a FaxModem with NS3.2 FIP? Date: 13 Apr 1994 23:10:58 -0700 Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Message-ID: <2oimpi$c2q@nic.cerf.net>
From: devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you connect a printer via Parallel Port NSFIP3.2? Date: 13 Apr 1994 23:13:32 -0700 Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Message-ID: <2oimuc$cdi@nic.cerf.net> Hello, I have NSFIP 3.2 and a postscript laser (TI Microlaser PS35 connected to the parallel port. When I run print manager and add a printer I only get serial ports as available connections? What gives? Can you connect via a parallel port?? Thanks, Jeff devildog@cerf.net Please reply via Email if possible :-)
From: Bo.Eriksson@Teknikum.UU.SE (Bo Eriksson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with Actix S3-928 and mouse Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 06:17:27 GMT Organization: Circuits & Systems Group, U of Uppsala, Sweden Message-ID: <Bo.Eriksson.230.2DACDFF7@Teknikum.UU.SE> Summary: Mouse seems to erase itself partially in the wrong place... Hello all! I have a problem making my mouse behave, so I thought I'd ask if anybody else has seen and possibly spolved this problem: the mouse leaves dots and lines apparently erased in the wrong position when I move it. These lines and dots always appear to the left of the mouse pointer, and the lines have about the same height as the pointer itself. They appear maybe 3-4 mm to the left of the pointer on a 1024x768 17 inch screen. If I move a window, there are no such traces, from the window, in fact, the window even cleans up the mess left by the mouse... My setup is as follows: NS 3.2 with the new Adaptec driver (the one that supports my SCSI-card) Actix VLB Ultra+ (S3-928) graphics card with 2MB VRAM, BusLogic BT445S VLB SCSI-controller (with the old Firmware and BIOS after SOME delay...), AMI BIOS, 16 MB, a 1 GB Micropolis drive, partitioned 1 DOS, three OS2, one NeXT. I have tried lower refresh-rate, other mouse acceleration (preferences) and other mouse resolution (Configure.app). The suggestion I have heard sofar (which I have not yet checked, partly since it seems so unlikely) is that it may be due to a conflict between the VLB SCSI and the VLB Graphics somehow... Any ideas ? Does anybody have a similar configuration without these problems ? Please let me know if you do! ADVthanksANCE Bo.Eriksson@Teknikum.UU.SE (No NeXTmail yet!) PS I'm not sure if it as hardware problem, so this may not be the right place to ask. Feel free to argue for other groups via email... DS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: 8MB SIMMS and 25MHz Color Station Message-ID: <1994Apr14.043106.15040@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <Co63qA.JAx@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 04:31:06 GMT In article <Co63qA.JAx@news.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes: > I have had 4 8MB sims in my next station for 2 years, no prob It must be either a Turbo system, or one of the last few(?) 25 MHz NeXTstations that were built with the "Turbo" main boards. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.sys.next.hardware reorganization fails In-Reply-To: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de's message of Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:47:05 GMT To: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr13115000@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> <Co7AAI.tn@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:49:59 GMT In article <Co7AAI.tn@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes: In article <comp.sys.next.hardware-reorg-RESULT@uunet.uu.net> iwj@white.dogwood.com (Ian Jackson) writes: > RESULT > comp.sys.next.hardware reorganisation > > Each new group requires at least twice as many yes as no votes and at > least 100 more yes than no votes; accordingly none of the proposed new > groups will be created and comp.sys.next.hardware will remain. > The proposal may not be raised again for at least 6 months. Great !! really great !! So I still have to wade through all the intel postings, that i dont have the slightest interest in, just to find the few, that are still related with black hardware. Oh come on !! This is NONSENSE !!! Can any of the people the voted NO, please tell me a SINGLE reason why they did it ?? Or can they give me a program, that automatically removes all intel related postings and only leaves black ones ? I completely agree with you -- as you can imagine us proposers were also rather disappointed with some of the NO voters. But on to the positive side: We were within 70 votes of getting just as many YES votes as soc.sexuality.zoophilia. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: HELP - why is my 70ns ram showing up as 100ns? (black cube) Message-ID: <1994Apr14.043223.15112@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <Co80Ar.BIJ@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 04:32:23 GMT In article <Co80Ar.BIJ@ra.nrl.navy.mil> chwastyk@jordan.nrl.navy.mil (Tom Chwastyk) writes: > I just put 8 4x8 70ns SIMMS from Chip Merchant into my NeXT cube. Nice > not to thrash so much anymore, but it shows up on the kernel monitor boot > as 100ns ram. This is a FAQ. Please look for the FAQs in comp.sys.next.announce, or on NeXT ftp sites. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <26@durango.win.net> From: pberryiii@durango.win.net (Pat Berry) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:27:34 GMT Subject: 3.1 Dev. CD for Intel For sale 3.1 user and Developer CD unregistered for Intel. Make offer or will trade for external black floppy (Pli,DIT.)
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: can't initialize Quantum PD1800S SCSI drive Date: 14 Apr 1994 07:43:47 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ois7j$o3i@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Has anybody been able to initialize a Quantum PD 1800S, 1.8 GB SCSI hard drive on Motorolla hardware? I just got a new drive today, and when I try to initialize it from my NextStep 3.2 CD, I get error messages. For example: Incomplete disk transfer Write of boot block 0 failed ...r/w returned -1; expected 50176 Write of boot block 1 failed No boot blocks on disk When I first initialized my 1.3 GB Conner, I didn't have this problem. Is it a bad drive with too many bad boot sectors? I expect that it is just some software or formatting problem, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu 25 MHz NeXT slabs (color & mono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <Co9H4s.84C@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 18:10:04 GMT References: <Co81t5.1ov@dvorak.amd.com> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen In article <Co81t5.1ov@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes: > In article <usenet-120494145119@lowry.eche.ualberta.ca> > usenet@lowry.eche.ualberta.ca (Brian Lowry) writes: > >>In article <Co2roL.4yy@genesis.nred.ma.us>, nraymond@genesis.nred.ma.us > >> > >> It's abundantly clear from even a broad non-legal reading of this that it > >>has nothing to do with software, so obviously the effect on NeXTStep for > >>PPC would be nil. However, Apple has never let little things such as past > >>agreements stand in the way of threatened litigation, so I expect NeXT > >>won't be doing much on the PPC chip. Shouldnt this read, they wont be doing much on the Power Mac ?? > >>Actually, since the NeXT OS really > >>isn't that wonderful (it's cumbersome and overly complex - it also achieves > >>the unthinkable and makes installation harder than DOS/Windows) compared to > >>virtually any alternative (Mac, OS/2, XWindows, plain unix, etc.), I'd > >>question why NeXT exists at all... > >> > > > Bullshit. > > Let me relate my 3.2 installation experience for a datapoint... [description of easy upgrade procedure deleted] Forget it. You cant help these people. If they want to use X-Windows, Windows, Unix, they get what they deserve !! -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann) Subject: Re: Can't play audio CDs on black hw Message-ID: <1994Apr14.071247.9943@rafa.in-berlin.de> Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de Organization: DRN References: <2of7ff$r3s@darkstar.isi.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 07:12:47 GMT In article <2of7ff$r3s@darkstar.isi.edu> carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: > I haven't been able to make audio CDs play on my system (25MHz Nextstation, > 3.2, Apple CD-150). The hard disk is at SCSI id 1, the CD-ROM at SCSI id 2. > Hi, I use the same Apple CD-150. This CD-150 is not able to read sound files. There are three possabilities: 1) You've got to change the Eprom software against the original NeXT CD-Rom software. Sound will work perfect but no data CD's will work anymore. 2) You take a 1MB Eprom and burn the Apple Software into the first half part and the NeXT software into the second. Than you've got to install a switch and connect two of the eprom pins with it. Now you can switch between Sound and Data Eprom software. This works perfect. 3) Buy a multisession double or triple speed CD-Rom and you will have no more problems exept no money:-) Remember: I don't think that No.1 and 2 is legal because the NeXT software license for the eprom software will be bundled with the CD-Rom hardware!!! Ralf %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% *| Ralf Neumann | ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de | Try NeXTmail please! |* *| ************ | Voice +49 30 / 321 78 84 | Fax +49 30 / 321 28 68|* %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SUMMARY: Running NeXTstation Turbo diskless Date: 13 Apr 1994 15:00:44 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oh1es$iji@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2obmvr$4sl@fermat.mayo.edu> In article <2obmvr$4sl@fermat.mayo.edu> I wrote: > I have a Nextstation Turbo with a dying (screeching) 250 internal > drive. Without getting into the vagaries of our purchasing procedures, > suffice it to say, I need to get rid of this drive faster than I > can get approval of buying a replacement disk. My internal has the > screaming bearing from hell problem, and my hearing is about shot. >[....] > Now the question. Can I damage my slab (or the power supply) by > just pulling the power feed to the drive, and running off an external > disk? I really don't want to move the external drive into my internal > slot, given 1) I run a hot turbo anyway (office runs hot), and 2) > I will likely the 1gb drive back in configuration once the replacement > drive (likely < 1GB) is procured. > > I remember a discussion about maintaining a load on the slab power > supply a while back, but I don't see anything in the FAQ's or my > archives telling me of a resolution. Was there a resolution? Or > is is just caveat emptor? Summary on this is: No problem. The previous conversation was on diskless _and_ headless NeXTs. The Monitor should provide enough draw to keep the power supply healthy. Thanks to Paul Verket on this one. -geoff.
From: kci@teleport.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR SCSI Driver available?? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:01:37 -0700 Organization: Kornreich Communications Message-ID: <kci-130494190137@ppp-006.teleport.com> Is the SCSI driver available for the NCR PCI scsi controller??? beta or pay..?? -- Kornreich Communications Steven Kornreich kci@teleport.com
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dimming monitor on early Dimension Date: 14 Apr 1994 12:42:18 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2ojdna$f37@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I have seen several questions regarding dimming monitors, and I want to add mine to the list. I have one of the very early NextDimensions. My color monitor is dimming noticeably, and the display is beggining to quiver at the lower right corner. The monitor is a 17" MegaPixel Model N4001, produced, I believe, by Philips. What are my options? Anyone from Bell Atlantic listening? Thanks. Randy Jackson jackson+@osu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dlee@ellis.uchicago.edu (daniel h lee) Subject: Help with CDROM Drive Message-ID: <1994Apr14.122802.17361@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:28:02 GMT Hello, I attached a generic SCSI cd rom drive to a black 040 cube but I get the following error message when I boot the cube: s0 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:10 scsi stateu:0x2 I set the cdrom drive id to 4. It seems like the drive is not being recognize. Thanks. ( the cube has an internal hard drive.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: menaf00@DMI.USherb.CA (FRANCOIS MENARD) Subject: NS/FIP Hardware Questions - urgent ! Message-ID: <menaf00.766307286@DMI.USherb.CA> Sender: usenet@DMI.USherb.CA (Pour courrier Usenet) Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 07:08:06 GMT Hello guys ! I would like to know what is the status with NS/FIP support for Future Domain 1680SVP SCSI-][ adaptors. While I was at the CeBIT, I met with a nice Future Domain UK engineer who told me that the drivers were ongoing beta testing. 2 questions, can I use them on NS 3.1 or do I need 3.2 ? How do I get to install those drivers ? I have a NEC CDR-74 plugged on the FT1680 as well as a Fujitsu M2694ESA HD, can someone tell me how does the installation will look like ? Other small question, I have an ISA ATI Graphics Ultra 8514 with 1 mb, (not a plus, not a pro). Under OS/2 2.1, I run at 1024x768 in 256 colors @ 76Hz .. under NS, will I fall back to dull mono VGA (from the FAQ's ... seems so ...). On another issue, I work with a company that makes a Windows Sound System compatible Soundcard (which then would work under NeXT Step) I need to stress the compatibility, as well as to know, who wrote the WSS driver (NeXT?). Can someone who witnessed WSS support tell me how it sounds like ? -=Francois=-
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't play audio CDs on black hw Date: 13 Apr 1994 22:37:50 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ohs7u$8nu@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2of7ff$r3s@darkstar.isi.edu> (note: I saw no reason for my reply to be cross-posted to admin) carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton) writes: > I haven't been able to make audio CDs play on my system (25MHz > Nextstation, 3.2, Apple CD-150). The hard disk is at SCSI id 1, > the CD-ROM at SCSI id 2. CDPlayer.app will not work with the Apple CD-150 > As far as I know, this drive is the same one than Next used > to sell (scsimodes identifies it as a SONY CD-ROM CDU-8002). The NeXT CD-ROM is a: SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 revision= 2.6a The Apple CD300 will work with CDPlayer.app, but not the Apple CD150. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mhawthor@faatcrl.faa.gov (Mike Hawthorn acd320 ext. 5821) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 486xx STD Bus uP Boards Message-ID: <2ojn1pINNi1e@faatcrl.faa.gov> Date: 14 Apr 94 15:21:29 GMT Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ I am about to purchase 486SX/DX/DX2 single board computers for the STD Bus. I am looking at Ziatech, Pro-Log, and Winsystems. If you have ever used any of these products, I would appreciate some feedback. This is the first time I've posted using this reader, so I apologize if it gets double-posted or any other problems occur. Please email responses directly to me. Thank You- Mike Hawthorne mhawthor@faatcrl.faa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: TWO optical disk drives in a single cube ?? Message-ID: <Co9CrF.54E@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <Co72Hu.KvL@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:38:34 GMT yup, only one... peter Marc Guenther (yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de) wrote: : Hello, : does anybody know if its possible to put a second optical drive (one of : those original NeXT drives) into a Cube, and use both of them at once ? : There is a /dev/od1*, but only one odc0. And od1* seems to handle the : first drive, too. Try a mount /dev/od1a /mnt, when a optical is already : inserted. : But anyway, my cube has two slots on the frontcover for optical drives, : so I suppose it should work ?!? : Thanx for any help, a second drive would definitely be nice !! : -- : Marc Guenther : ------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 : und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 : University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de : ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@snac.cfa.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scotto@spasm.cica.indiana.edu (Scott Ostrander) Subject: [Query] NeXTCube and monitors Message-ID: <Co9Eno.LGt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Summary: Help with NeXT monitors Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:16:36 GMT I currently have a NeXTCube with a grayscale MegaPixel display and a NeXTDimension 21" colour monitor installed. I would like to remove the MegaPixel display and connect the keyboard via a SoundBox, which I have. My problem is that the Model 150.00 cable I have, which the MegaPixel monitor came with, does not seem to work with the SoundBox. I get a static pop, then nothing, when I try to power on. Going back to the two monitor setup boots fine. I am assuming a need a different cable? Is there something I need to configure to tell the machine not to display images on that port? I need help with this. Email or posts welcome. Scott Ostrander - Systems Administration, CICA, Indiana University scotto@cica.indiana.edu
From: mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel config question Date: 14 Apr 1994 10:43:21 -0700 Organization: YoyoDyne Propulsion Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ojvbp$3kb@crl.crl.com> I've got a machine with a Nice VESA/EISA motherboard, Adaptec 1542C, and the Mach video card. Occassionally, seemingly at unpredictable times, the pointer will freeze into one frame of the spinning wait cursor, rather than the pointer. When this happens I start to lose window control; the mouse no longer controls scrollers, you can't select text in the window, etc. You can still drag the window by the title bar, but can't control anything inside of it. Anyone seen a configuration problem like this before? -- Don McGregor | "I told him not to join that stupid club." mcgredo@crl.com |
From: brahm@alembic.com (Lans Brahmantyo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DEC 4GB Hard Drive Info needed Date: 14 Apr 1994 14:14:48 -0500 Organization: Q.Ad - A NEXTSTEP-based Advertising Agency Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199404141844.AA17205@alembic.com> Hello, Anybody knows about the model number of the new DEC 4GB HD that is supposedly sold for $2500 and where I can purchase one from? If so, please let me know at brahm@alembic.com. Thanks a bunch. ............. brahm Q.Ad
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SUMMARY: DAT Drive Recommendations Date: 14 Apr 1994 20:24:51 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Message-ID: <2ok8qk$pkk@newsflash.mitre.org> Here is a summary of the responses that I received about DAT drives. Mostly because of price, I decided to purchase my drive from Alliance Peripheral Systems--a simple 2 GB device based on the Archive mechan- ism. It list for $799, but they gave me a $50 dollar discount for or- dering it without Retrospect, which they usually bundle. I received the drive yesterday and hooked it up immediately after getting home. The drive was great. Worked both directly (using dump to backup my whole system), and indirectly (using SafetyNet to backup specific critical files) on the first try; no problems. I'm happy as a clam. Hope this information is helpful. - Max | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | | NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | Opinions expressed are my own. Who else would want them? | ------------------ summary of responses follow ------------------- >>I found Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions in Santa Cruz >>(408-425-8280) to be NeXT-knowledgeable and to have competitive >>prices. This bit of info has served me well. I purchased a 1 gig dec drive from him last year and have been very happy. He provides great service, is very on top of things, usually the best prices, 5 yr warrantees, and most importantly, 48 hour replacement on failed drives. I have been a happy customer and will be purchasing a DAT drive and a 2.4 gig drive from him this week. He handles the Exabyte for what I think is a good price. Hope this helps. ---------- I bought a 2GB Archive Python DAT drive and enclosure, and have been pretty happy with it. No problems, although I'm not using SafetyNet. I bought the drive from Dirt Cheap Drives, which seems to be the same as, or a sibling of, another company called MegaHaus. Both advertise in Computer Shopper, and seem to have consistently low prices compared to the other outfits that also advertise there. Royce Howland dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account) ---------- You might try the Exabyte 4200c. This isn't a "lower capacity" DAT drive but it works fine for me. This is a DDS-DC compressing drive so supposedly you can get 4-8 GB on a tape. Don't know about that. It works fine with SafteyNet. I get about 12MB/min streaming to the tape and somewhat less restoring because it never streams continuously. As for a supplier, you can try NCA peripherals in Sunnyvale. They do a lot of mail order and have corporate accounts. Their mail order phone number is: (408) 522-3050 I have occassionally had trouble with stuff I bought there, but NCA is pretty >good with warranty service. In fact they occassionally go out of their way to fix a problem. NCA peripherals lists this drive at $950. They also have the non-compressing model 4200 listed for $850. They also carry HP and WangDAT tape drives. These >prices come from March 7 and may be out of date. Good luck and don't hesitate to mail if you have any questions about the 4200c. Chris -- Christopher Douty christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government Christopher_Douty@hmc.edu | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty, ----------------------------------------------+ the weak, severely limited government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and seeks to dominate all aspects of our lives?" - Don Feder ---------- I use a Exabyte drive (4200C) with my NeXTStation and SafetyNeT. They work fine together. If I had to get a new drive I would proberbally go for the HP drive. Its a little more expensive but then again more people have heard of it so if I have to use some other backup tool, on another computer I would be more likly not to have any problems. I got my drive from Periferal Solutions (1-800-ALL-DISK) they were helpful. Nothing particularly good, but definatly nothing bad. Worth considering at least. Hope this helps john.
From: jjdtech@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which ethercard is best for NS/FIP ISA? Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 21:11:56 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <5uwtqts.jjdtech@delphi.com> References: <2nuspb$2de@mailer.fsu.edu> <2o0a1n$hc4@Times.Stanford.EDU> I have been using the EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO from 3COm to hook my NeXT Intel Machine th to my SCO Unix net and have had no problems.......Yet!
From: jjdtech@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Does Micronics JX30 motherboard work? Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 21:23:33 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <xu6uarl.jjdtech@delphi.com> References: <daj.766075550@news.acns.nwu.edu> I built my Next machine on a Micronics JX30 from Tech Data . It works fine once you disable the video shadow ram. My system specs are as follows. Micronics JX30 10 15 16 MB Ram ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VLB 2MB Alpha Research DC-800 SCSI controller w/ 4MB Cache 3 1/2 drive running off the SCSi card Sony CPD-1730 monitor 1.4 Micropolis SCSi II Hard Drive Pro Audio Spectrup 16 Sound card NEC 3xe CD-ROM Logitech Trackman II trackball on com 1 Zyxel 1496E modem on com 2 Etherlink III 3c509-combo ethernet card It all runs fine except the CD-Player app. And it only took 2 months to get configured. If you have any questions mail me at jjdtech@access.digex.com.. I am running 3.2 with the dev sys installed and connected to my SCO net.
From: jjdtech@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How do I use a FaxModem with NS3.2 FIP? Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 21:27:59 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <xu6taPv.jjdtech@delphi.com> References: <2oimpi$c2q@nic.cerf.net> Not to sound stupid but my Zyxel 1496e with NXFax by Black & White Software works great.
From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 20:20:50 CDT Organization: University of Missouri, Columbia Message-ID: <16F9811E55S86.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <dellis-090494015114@bellevue-ip2.halcyon.com> <dsb-090494114904@blodgett.mitre.org> I would buy thirty-three NeXTSTEP-on-reasonably-configured-PowerPCs today. Unfortunately, an NS/PPC is not guaranteed by August when I need it. Our choice is thus NeXTSTEP/Intel over Mac/PowerMac, but we're delaying commitment as long as we can. Here's the situation. At this university the Math dept has achieved impressive results (like one gradepoint/four average increase!) using Mathematica to teach calculus & other courses. We have seventy classic black NeXTs, a wonderful deal when Mathematica was bundled with them. We found that NeXT's ancillary services--the File Browser, homework email file & voice attachments, access from Suns & such at the unix command level--offer just about a perfect environment for our audience and application. The NeXT package is intuitive as a Mac but with superior multi-user support & remote access. The tools don't get in the way of learning. Our worst problems are when a teacher spikes the net with, "Now everyone save your file...". At the recent rollout, Apple used Mathematica to show how the PowerMac could handle a heavy application. Some assignments in our classes tend toward 100MB of virtual memory! Even with 24MB RAM on each station, we pound those local disks. Thus in terms of a balanced system, the PowerMac builtin SCSI and ethernet are more attractive to me than mix 'n match Intel. Ah well, I've heard "richness" defined as "having options". Presuming NeXT, Wolfram, & IBM/Apple/Moto don't line up as soon as I need, any recommendations for an Intel configuration for the situation I describe? *Greg Johnson - Sr Sci Pgmr/Analyst, Campus Computing, 233 Heinkel Bldg *U of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 USA {314-882-2000, fax 314-884-5240}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with Cube desperately needed - new to NeXTs Message-ID: <jtarr.766364114@scws3.harvard.edu> From: jtarr@scws3.harvard.edu (Jeff Tarr) Date: 14 Apr 94 22:55:14 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Wew've just been given a used Cube that has been previously configured by people who had no idea what was going on. At this time we are not connected to a network, but will be soon. Right now we have a lot of questions but first a problem: During bootup the machine first looks for a NetInfo server, which it can not find so we have to hit a "c" to continue. What is a NetInfo server and what do I need to do about this? Next, the machine starts looking for a YP server. The machine gets stuck trying to find a YP server, but it never will. I can't get the machine loaded up or anything. How can I circumvent this? Other problems: While I tried out the machine when it was working I couldn't figure out how to mount optical disks. Sometimes I would insert the disk and then it would grind for for a few seconds and then eject, and other times it would just sit in there. How do I mount it? Also, I've tried booting off the optical but it doesn't work. How can I boot off the optical? Any other tips for new users would be greatly appreciated. Where can I get the FAQ? Please respond by email! Thanks. -- Jeff Tarr jtarr@husc.harvard.edu "Remember, drive defensively! And of course, the best defense is a good offense!"
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can format Quantum PD1800S Mac but not NeXT -- Why? Date: 15 Apr 1994 03:27:48 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ol1jk$62h@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> My new 1.8 GB Quantum hard drive (PD 1800S) works fine, because I have been able to take it to the lab and format it on the macintoshes there. However, I am unable to initialize the drive on my 68040 NeXT running NextStep 3.2. I get error messages saying "incomplete disk transfer" and "write of boot block 1 failed." There is obviously some software formatting trick to get this thing initialized. Does anybody know the solution? -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Message-ID: <Apr.15.01.51.03.1994.25530@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 15 Apr 94 05:51:03 GMT References: <dsb-090494114904@blodgett.mitre.org> <2o760h$kql@usenet.rpi.edu> <2o7b27$4uu@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.powerpc Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (R S Rodgers) writes: >>> > I am heartily throwing my vote in here too. A P-Mac port would make >>> > me a NEXTSTEP Customer. > Question: > If you are so interested in NeXTSTEP, why haven't you bought > it already? Well, I for one already do own NS 3.2 on my ND and on an Intel system. BUT, I cant get anymore black hardware and I really LOATHE my white hardware and all the like. In the past I used to have mac hardware and I thought it was quite nice; I discontinued using macs primarily because the OS was becoming to crappy for my taste. Thus, as I am constantly upgrading my hardware, I would like a cheap, tightly integrated, and what I consider high quality, platform upon which to run NS. I think a PMac or PIBM would be a great place for NS to reside. BTW, I dont want to use a bastardized SUN version of OpenStep. I want the REAL thing (tm). I want NEXTSTEP. Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Can you connect a printer via Parallel Port NSFIP3.2? Message-ID: <CoAHL2.I44@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2oimuc$cdi@nic.cerf.net> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 07:17:25 GMT In article <2oimuc$cdi@nic.cerf.net> devildog@nic.cerf.net (Ren Hoek) writes: > >Hello, > > I have NSFIP 3.2 and a postscript laser (TI Microlaser PS35 >connected to the parallel port. > > When I run print manager and add a printer I only get serial >ports as available connections? Click on the word serial. Underneath you will find parallel. > What gives? Can you connect via a parallel port?? Yes. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT) [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: sawtelle@mariposa.stonecutter.com (Don Sawtelle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: can a NS Turbo use an Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive? Date: Thu, 14 Apr 94 23:11:40 PDT Organization: Stonecutter Software Message-ID: <01050131.t6vhc1@mariposa.stonecutter.com> I will be receiving a NeXTStation Turbo that has a "wiped" hard drive. Can I use my Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive to boot from a NeXTStep 3.0 CD-ROM and install the OS? (I recall someone mentioning that NeXT hardware can work with an Apple CD 150 CD-ROM drive. But I haven't heard whether the Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive will work.) I spent a while looking for the answer to this question on the net, but without success. My apologies if the answer to this question is buried in some NeXTanswer I didn't look in or some FAQ I don't have. If someone has a whole list of CD-ROM drives that will work with black hardware, that would be interesting too. Or a pointer to a location on the net where such info is available. Thanks! Don Sawtelle Stonecutter Software
From: pgeiss@dali.uphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Peter Geissler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic Graphics Mode Date: 15 Apr 1994 08:23:21 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2olitp$bjf@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Hello! I have NextStep running on a 486 with a Cirrus Logic VLB graphics adapter installed. By default, the display mode is set to 1024x768x2. How can I select a different mode, e.g. 800x600x2 or 800x600x16 ? I am using the Cirrus Logic Driver which was on the NextStep CD-Rom. Thanks in advance for any help, Peter Geissler pgeiss@dali.uphys.uni-heidelberg.de == NEXT MAIL WELCOME ==
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (Jon Doroin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What has Kris & Alpine been up to lately? Date: 14 Apr 1994 10:51:00 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2ojop4$e8s@cobber.cord.edu> I haven't heard from Kris for some time and have noticed that he hasn't been posting lately. I heard that he was in the process of moving his server machine and that was why Alpine has been unreacheable. That was some time ago. I am planning on buying a machine from him. Ahhh. The DECpcXL Server. Looks like a nice machine. Can't wait til it's available in 90Mhz or 100Mhz. Also, I read about a new DEC 64bit videocard/chipset. It's supposed to be able to run OpenGL intensive apps. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: can a NS Turbo use an Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive? Date: 15 Apr 1994 09:25:53 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2olmj1$aht@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <01050131.t6vhc1@mariposa.stonecutter.com> In article <01050131.t6vhc1@mariposa.stonecutter.com> sawtelle@mariposa.stonecutter.com (Don Sawtelle) writes: > Can I use my Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive to boot from a NeXTStep 3.0 > CD-ROM and install the OS? I know that the Apple 150 and 300 CD ROM drives work fine with black NeXT hardware. I'm using an apple 150 right this moment. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) Subject: Pinout for Deskjet 550C printer? Message-ID: <1994Apr15.111411.1168@prim.demon.co.uk> Organization: Primitive Software Ltd. Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:14:11 GMT Hi, a friend is having problems connecting his NeXTStation to a Deskjet 550C. He's using DOTS. It prints one page, but hardware flow control doesn't seem to be working, so subsequent pages get screwed up. Software flow control doesn't work either. Does anyone have the correct pinout for the cable? TIA, Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann) Subject: How to jumper a IBM QEM 0662512 HD for black hardware Message-ID: <1994Apr15.062812.344@rafa.in-berlin.de> Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de Organization: DRN Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 06:28:12 GMT Hello, I don't have any manuals for the IBM QEM 0662512 1GB harddisk. Who can tell me how to jumper it for black NeXT's? Complete jumpering is requiered! Thanks a lot in advance Ralf BTW: If you have this harddisk what are your expiriences (how fast, loudness...)? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% *| Ralf Neumann | ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de | Try NeXTmail please! |* *| ************ | Voice +49 30 / 321 78 84 | Fax +49 30 / 321 28 68|* %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: douglas@woodbine.ewl.uky.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: 15 Apr 1994 13:22:17 GMT Organization: U of K, Engineering Workstation Lab Message-ID: <2om4e9$d69@s.ms.uky.edu> References: <godwin.6.00114F84@unixg.ubc.ca <Dave.94Apr1123545@ournext> <Dave.94Apr7145525@ournext> <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <dellis-090494015114@bellevue-ip2.halcyon.com> <dsb-090494114904@blodgett.mitre.org> <16F9811E55S86.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu> What about NeXTSTEP on HP700? This should be ready this summer and is more like the PPC than Intel! John D. Turner | System Administrator | douglas@ewl.uky.edu | 3234531
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: can a NS Turbo use an Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive? Message-ID: <CoB27G.1Ft@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <01050131.t6vhc1@mariposa.stonecutter.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:42:52 GMT In article <01050131.t6vhc1@mariposa.stonecutter.com> sawtelle@mariposa.stonecutter.com (Don Sawtelle) writes: > I will be receiving a NeXTStation Turbo that has a "wiped" hard drive. > Can I use my Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive to boot from a NeXTStep 3.0 > CD-ROM and install the OS? > > (I recall someone mentioning that NeXT hardware can work with an Apple > CD 150 CD-ROM drive. But I haven't heard whether the Apple CD SC CD-ROM > drive will work.) > Yes, I used one a couple of years back, they work just fine (I think I installed 2.2 off of it..). -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-ROM player problem - help is needed (desparately) Date: 15 Apr 1994 14:29:41 -0400 Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2ommel$bij@math.mps.ohio-state.edu> I have my APPLE CD-ROM 300 hooked up to my CUBE with NS 3.2. It works with regular CD's BUT I have the following problem with MUSIC CD's: it only works when I am logged in as root. Here are the permission bits of CDPlayer.app: drwxr-xr-x 5 root 2048 Oct 21 22:16 CDPlayer.app/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Oct 21 22:16 CDDrive.nib/ -rwsr-xr-x 1 root 57344 Aug 20 1993 CDPlayer* drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Oct 21 22:16 CDPlayer.nib/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Aug 20 1993 English.lproj/ -r--r--r-- 1 root 4228 Mar 12 1992 cd_logo.tiff -r--r--r-- 1 root 2328 Mar 12 1992 control_cfwd.tiff etc. When I insert is MUSIC CD when I am logged in as myself (not root) then I get stuff like: % Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: DISK UNFORMATTED Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: Disk is Write Protected Apr 15 14:18:55 ops mach: audio kernel server unloaded Apr 15 14:18:56 ops mach: audio kernel server initialized AND THEN the disk gets ejected. What's going on? Can you help me? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-ROM player problem - help is needed (desparately) Date: 15 Apr 1994 14:26:05 -0400 Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2omm7t$bcp@math.mps.ohio-state.edu> I have my APPLE CD-ROM 300 hooked up to my CUBE with NS 3.2. It works with regular CD's BUT I have the following problem with MUSIC CD's: it only works when I am logged in as root. Here are the permission bits of CDPlayer.app: drwxr-xr-x 5 root 2048 Oct 21 22:16 CDPlayer.app/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Oct 21 22:16 CDDrive.nib/ -rwsr-xr-x 1 root 57344 Aug 20 1993 CDPlayer* drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Oct 21 22:16 CDPlayer.nib/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Aug 20 1993 English.lproj/ -r--r--r-- 1 root 4228 Mar 12 1992 cd_logo.tiff -r--r--r-- 1 root 2328 Mar 12 1992 control_cfwd.tiff etc. When I insert is MUSIC CD when I am logged in as myself (not root) then I get stuff like: % Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: DISK UNFORMATTED Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: Disk is Write Protected Apr 15 14:18:55 ops mach: audio kernel server unloaded Apr 15 14:18:56 ops mach: audio kernel server initialized AND THEN the disk gets ejected. What's going on? Can you help me? Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mperry@netcom.com (Michael Perry) Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Message-ID: <mperryCoBC5r.BKr@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <Co03Lu.216@galileo.pr.net.ch> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:17:50 GMT Unfortunately many SCSI devices load the SCSI bus when turned off. The only practicle solution is to leave them turned on. Michael Perry mperry@netcom.com stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) writes: >I have a CD-ROM SCSI driver connected to my Station. >When I don t use it, I turn it off, but the Console will give me >every second this message: >sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gap (Gernot A. Pohl) Subject: HELP: dimension ODD! Message-ID: <1994Apr14.233226.283@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> Keywords: NeXTdimension, Video Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl) Organization: YW Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:32:26 GMT Connected to VideoInputDevices - trying to grab some stuff - I always get a dimensionTrap with the following messages: CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:47:57 mania mach: NeXTdimension server running (31) CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:47:59 mania mach: audio kernel server initialized CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:49:41 mania loginwindow[240]: loginwindow: running /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:49:41 mania Workspace[240]: logged in CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:50:45 mania mach: ND video i/o: dma grab timeout CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:50:49 mania mach: ipl5: spurious interrupt CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:50:54 mania mach: ND video i/o: dma grab timeout CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:51:02 mania mach: ND video i/o: dma grab timeout CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:51:41 mania last message repeated 3 times CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania mach: i860 vm_fault() result == 1 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania mach: NeXTdimension Trap: Memory Access, Problem is Unallocated/Invalid Addr CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: Address 0x0, PC 0xf80a9cf8 write access. CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r4 f80d1cec r5 1 r6 f80bfd1c r7 0 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r8 f8006830 r9 10 r10 a000a800 r11 a000a800 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r12 a000a800 r13 a000a800 r14 f80a3400 r15 0 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r16 0 r17 f80bfd0c r18 100020 r19 1 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r20 f80bfd08 r21 11f8384 r22 5c463b00 r23 0 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r24 0 r25 f80c01d0 r26 0 r27 f80c1350 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r28 470 r29 100030 r30 31000081 r31 f80c0000 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: r1 f80a9c84 sp e027fee0 fp e027fef8 db 8040000 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: psr 100800 pc f80a9cf8 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0xf8006d68: 0xf80a9cf8() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0xf8003a60: 0xf8006d68() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0xf800ccdc: 0xf8003a60() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0xf800d458: 0xf800ccdc() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0xf8003f80: 0xf800d458() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0xf80a3418: 0xf8003f80() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0xf8001ba4: 0xf80a3418() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:43 mania mach: 0x0: 0xf8001ba4() CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania Preferences[243]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 48a28, data -102 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania Preferences[243]: Exiting due to Window Server death CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania WM[242]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext b4b1c, data -102 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania Mail[244]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 7af24, data 0 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania Mail[244]: Exiting due to Window Server death CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania VideoApp[250]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext d0ecc, data -102 CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:42 mania VideoApp[250]: Exiting due to Window Server death CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:57 mania loginwindow[233]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0. CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:59 mania loginwindow[233]: dps_err_write CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:59 mania last message repeated 20 times CONSOLE> Apr 15 00:52:59 mania loginwindow[233]: exiting due to excessive DPS errors The message "ipl5: spurious interrupt" I got always with video acces apps, but the total impossibility to work with our dimension is very new & the very hard to live with... Any help/hints???? -- .. viel Spasz! > Grisu Gernot A. Pohl grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de \_/ alt.: grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: DEC MTE system toasted? Help! Message-ID: <1994Apr15.200309.3860@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 20:03:09 GMT Our DEC MTE intel system had been running fine. So, I had to dick with it ;-( I shut it down gracefully. I plugged in a parallel cable connected to a new HP LJ4M. Reboot, and commence living in world of pain. The boot process hangs after displaying: Configuring Device Drivers If I boot with config=Display, it hangs with: Configuring Device Drivers PCPointer probe: mouseInit Failure Using Default table for Bus Mouse -IOProbe_Driver: No Such Device, device BusMouse unit0 The cmos setup screens look fine (unchanged). The mouse works if I boot into DOS/Windows. Any ideas? Help! -- Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: icardena@dcl-nxt12 (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060 introduced?) Date: 15 Apr 1994 21:16:22 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2on076$942@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2ohv2f$a3k@zikzak.apana.org.au> <worley.1116786357A@desire.wright.edu> Given the information below any person with the hardware knowledge care to speculate on the chances of an '060 upgrade for an '040 NeXTCube? Just curious... -Ian worley@el.wpafb.af.mil (Rick Worley) writes: >EETimes, 4 April 94, has an article about 68060 >2x-4x integer speed of 68040 >3x floating point speed of 68040 >Superscalar (2 integer units) >dual four-stage pipelines in integer unit. >256 entry instruction branch cache >four-way set-associative caches >0.5um, 3.3 V process >doubles the clock rate of 040 while maintaining a 25 MHz 040 compatible bus. >The 060 is application software, socket, and local bus compatible with 040. > 68040 68060 >Mips 40 100 >Mflops 3.5 13 >Data Bus 32 32 >Clock(MHz) 25,33,40 50,66 >Instr cache 4kB 8kB >Data cache 4kB 8kB -- *x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x* "I would if I could X Ian P Cardenas X but I can't X CS major at UIUC X so I'll learn" -IPC X icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu X
From: telesoft@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How do I use a FaxModem with NS3.2 FIP? Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 18:15:23 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <ZW0tq97.telesoft@delphi.com> References: <2oimpi$c2q@nic.cerf.net> <xu6taPv.jjdtech@delphi.com> I just purchased a{ZyXel modem to be used with NS 3.2 and I'm having problems sending faxes. Have you experienced any problems?
From: telesoft@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you connect a printer via Parallel Port NSFIP3.2? Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 18:17:53 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <ZU1MaJ5.telesoft@delphi.com> References: <2oimuc$cdi@nic.cerf.net> I have succeeded in connecting a HP Posts{ript printer to the parallel port. You have to make sure the port is set for the proper address which is 0x378. The printer wil only work with this address. Also, make sure no other devices are using Interrupt 5 or 7. Good luck. Rob
From: hkhenson@cup.portal.com (H Keith Henson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: When a SCSI drive is off... my Console is unhappy ! Message-ID: <109102@cup.portal.com> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 15:55:00 PDT Organization: The Portal System (TM) Distribution: world References: <2oab28INNgna@clem.handheld.com> <2ocibk$3ct@usenet.rpi.edu> <2ofuhp$8r9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> RE this thread, it depends on the details of how the scsi bus is terminated. SCSI terminations reqire pull up power, and they can be powered from either the controller end or the device on the end of the chain (there are jumpers to make this choice.) You have a better chance of getting away with turning off a device in the middle of the chain, but here you can also get into trouble if it lacks limiting resistors (and thus drags down signal lines.) Tricky business . . . . More likely to work with recent hardware, but *I* wouldn't do it. Keith Henson
From: don@darth.byu.edu (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What has Kris & Alpine been up to lately? Date: 16 Apr 1994 02:00:43 GMT Distribution: na Message-ID: <2ongsb$747@bones.et.byu.edu> References: <2ojop4$e8s@cobber.cord.edu> Jon Doroin writes ) I haven't heard from Kris for some time and have noticed that he hasn't ) been posting lately. I heard that he was in the process of moving his ) server machine and that was why Alpine has been unreacheable. That was ) some time ago. ) I am planning on buying a machine from him. He's still around. Try the kris@alpine.com address; it should work just fine. If not, kris@heisenberg.alpine.com ought to do the trick. At the moment he's in the process of moving (as in changing apartments) so you could say he is a little bit busy and probably doesn't have much time for news. If you plan to buy from him at Alpine, I recommend that you at least get in touch with him soon...there's no telling how long Alpine can keep a hold of him, he's so good. :-) (I'm not yet a customer, but am a biased personal friend...) -- Later, -Don Yacktman Don_Yacktman@byu.edu
From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep difference... Date: 16 Apr 1994 00:56:25 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2ond3p$j0o@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <1994Apr13.184119.30727@Lehigh.EDU> In article <1994Apr13.184119.30727@Lehigh.EDU> smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Flash!) writes: > : So you have two options for running OpenStep compliant applications > : on Sun hardware: 1) get NEXTSTEP/Sparc, or 2) get Solaris. In fact, > > NeXT is currently producing a version of NeXT Step to run on Sparcs > AS WELL AS OpenStep/Solaris. So you actually have three choices: > > NeXTStep/Sparc > OpenStep & Solaris/ Sparc > Solaris / Sparc Is Next shipping a NEXTStep/Sparc product? Or for that matter are they shipping anything other than NS/Intel and NS/Next? I'm really tired of NS/I and would like an alternative. It seems silly to spend $5000 on another intel based machine to run NextStep that doesn't feel any faster (and sometimes feels slower) than our NextStation turbo color. I'm refering to overall usage (launching apps, running compiles, scrolling through online documentation, ...). Personally either NS/HP-PA or NS/Sparc would interest me, especially if they have a reasonably priced 1280x1024 16bit color video option. NS/PPC only intrigues me because Apple has such good educational prices on their PPC/macs. Other than that I don't see why everyone is so excited about a PPC port. I'd rather see Next put development effort into existing, shipping, hardware platforms (HP-PA, Sun SPARC, DEC alpha, Silcon Graphics R4400) than into a platform specs (PReP). These other RISC platforms already have good price/performance on the low end plus they offer higher end processors today. Well that's my two cents worth :) Jessica Hayden UW-Madison, Dept Chemistry hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu (free) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How about that Alpha port? Date: 14 Apr 1994 20:00:30 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2okove$1vk@cobber.cord.edu> That alpha chip just doesn't want to sit still does it? Love them specs: 275Mhz SPECint 170 SPECfp 290 This from April 11 InfoWorld. Now, about an alpha port of NEXTSTEP or OpenStep. So what is NeXT's going price for a port? $10Million? Hey, Digital, come up with that cash :) -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: cozza@phage.cshl.org (Steven Cozza) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Upgrading Colorstation Memory Date: 15 Apr 1994 17:30:58 -0400 Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Lab, NY Distribution: world Message-ID: <2on12iINN6pr@phage.cshl.org> I want to upgrade the memory in my non-Turbo NeXT Colorstation. Currently it has only 16meg and I would like to add another 16. Could someone tell me what type of SIMM I can use to do this? Also if you know of a good reliable source of SIMMs I would appreciate that information too. -steve -- ## Steven Cozza | Internet: cozza@cshl.org ## ## Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory | Phone: (516) 367-8864 ## ## Box 100, 1 Bungtown Road | FAX: (516) 367-8461 ## ## Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724-2213 | ##
From: me@galois.uoregon.edu (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: supported NSFIP svga cards? Date: 15 Apr 1994 20:50:56 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Message-ID: <2omung$iao@pith.uoregon.edu> Keywords: svga NSFIP I am currently in the process of building a 486 clone to use as a platform for NS3.2. Can anyone out there in userLand advise me of there experiences with different graphics cards and controllers? Does a diamond viper driver exist? What would be the ideal graphix engine? What exists today and how does it perform in terms of 1) resolution? 2) speed? 3) price? This worthwhile dicussion will be a great benifit to me and my simple minded peers as well. Thank you for shareing your knowledge John Candlish
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: DEC MTE system toasted? Help! Message-ID: <1994Apr16.043125.7118@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1994Apr15.200309.3860@cs.yale.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 04:31:25 GMT In article <1994Apr15.200309.3860@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > If I boot with config=Display, it hangs with: I meant config=Default of course... -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: sav3@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Modem Dialin Woes Date: 16 Apr 1994 05:20:08 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <2onsi8$bpi@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> I'm trying to set up my modem for people to dial into my machine, but when I chance the /etc/ttys file to have an entry like this: ttyda "/usr/etc/getty std.4800" unknown on My machine goes into this crazy loop with the modem and all I see are the flashing RD and SD lights on my modem. The computer acts okay, but there's a getty process taking up 10% of the CPU. I've tried all kinds of the different entries, including D4800, D9600, even knj.9600, different speeds, etc. Oh, I'm using a Zoom VFX V.32 bis modem. Thanks Sean Varah ****************************************************************************** "it's not music if no one wants to listen to it" Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, sav3@cunixa.columbia.edu ******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Questions about the Gecko (HP9000/712) Message-ID: <1994Apr16.090025.285@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 09:00:25 GMT Hello World, (If you read this on comp.sys.hp.hardware, please answer by e-mail since that group is not carried at this site - yet). I am planning to put together a HP 9000 712 for running NEXTSTEP. Since HP charges in my opinion too much for peripherals (as all computer manufacturers do), I am going to buy a CPU unit and then install my own add-ons. What I therefore need is some information on the specs the additions have to adher to. Like: What kind of memory can I put in it? What kind of monitors can I attach (I was thinking about buying a Philips Brilliance 1720) How many internal SCSI-devices can I put in? (1 or 2?) Can I attach my SCSI-1 peripherals to the SCSI chain? I was thinking about putting a DEC DSP hard drive (2GB) in the machine. I currently run one of thos externally on my NeXT Cube. It performs very well. But you cannot for instance put such a drive in a NeXTstation, because it overheats. Do people have experience with putting other HD's in the Gecko? Do I have to be careful about what type of disk I put in? What type of disk do HP use themselves? HP ones? Any other apsects I am likely to forget? Thanks, -- gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD-ROM player problem - help is needed (desparately) Date: 16 Apr 1994 10:17:48 +0100 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2ooafs$42j@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2omm7t$bcp@math.mps.ohio-state.edu> pali+@osu.edu wrote in comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware >I have my APPLE CD-ROM 300 hooked up to my CUBE with NS 3.2. It works with >regular CD's BUT I have the following problem with MUSIC CD's: it only works >when I am logged in as root. Here are the permission bits of CDPlayer.app: > >drwxr-xr-x 5 root 2048 Oct 21 22:16 CDPlayer.app/ > >drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Oct 21 22:16 CDDrive.nib/ >-rwsr-xr-x 1 root 57344 Aug 20 1993 CDPlayer* >drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Oct 21 22:16 CDPlayer.nib/ >drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Aug 20 1993 English.lproj/ >-r--r--r-- 1 root 4228 Mar 12 1992 cd_logo.tiff >-r--r--r-- 1 root 2328 Mar 12 1992 control_cfwd.tiff >etc. > >When I insert is MUSIC CD when I am logged in as myself (not root) >then I get stuff like: > >% Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 >Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 >Apr 15 14:18:13 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: sd4 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64 >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: DISK UNFORMATTED >Apr 15 14:18:14 ops mach: Disk is Write Protected >Apr 15 14:18:55 ops mach: audio kernel server unloaded >Apr 15 14:18:56 ops mach: audio kernel server initialized > >AND THEN the disk gets ejected. What's going on? Can you help me? Please >respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul > >Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu >Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) >Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax) > > A number of things come to mind. Are you using Intel? If so I _don't think_ CDPlayer works with Intel.. Also, you don't say exactly when you insert the disc... You should only be inserting the disk when the Panel pops up after CDPlayer.app is running. (This assumes you _are_ on Motorolla because I believe CDPlayer.app only works on Motorolla) -- "Kill files are for pacifists" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: kohut1@urz.unibas.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! NeXTstep/FPI and AMI FastSCSI Message-ID: <1994Apr16.142743.43704@urz.unibas.ch> Date: 16 Apr 94 14:27:43 MET Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland I have the following installing problem with NeXTstep 3.2 FPI : I use a AMI FastSCSI EISA Cache Adapter with Adaptec 1542 and Buslogic 742 emulation but NeXTstep can't identifier this SCSI-Adapter at all. So, does somebody successfully installed NeXTstep with such a SCSI-card ? Or do exist somewhere any specialised drivers ? Any help will be appreciated !! -Peter- E-Mail : kohut1@urz.unibas.ch
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about that Alpha port? Date: 16 Apr 1994 13:07:57 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: na Message-ID: <2oonvd$d96@inxs.concert.net> References: <2okove$1vk@cobber.cord.edu> In article <2okove$1vk@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu (free) writes: > > That alpha chip just doesn't want to sit still does it? > Love them specs: > 275Mhz > SPECint 170 > SPECfp 290 > > This from April 11 InfoWorld. > > Now, about an alpha port of NEXTSTEP or OpenStep. > So what is NeXT's going price for a port? $10Million? > Hey, Digital, come up with that cash :) > -- Actually, if you took a look at any national financial news broadcast (CNBC, etc), Digital lost a boat-load of money last year due primarily to shinking margins, less of a demand for their mainframes, fewer services contracts (due to better quality), their stock fell about $8.00/share yesterday (was once a high of about $199, now about $22.00/share). They clearly don't have the money. Dave -- Paradigm Shift Corporation info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXT Object Channel Partner 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ********
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Questions about the Gecko (HP9000/712) Date: 16 Apr 1994 13:10:31 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ooo47$dct@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Apr16.090025.285@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> In article <1994Apr16.090025.285@rna.indiv.nluug.nl> gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes: > I am planning to put together a HP 9000 712 for running NEXTSTEP. Since HP > charges in my opinion too much for peripherals (as all computer manufacturers > do), I am going to buy a CPU unit and then install my own add-ons. What I > therefore need is some information on the specs the additions have to adher > to. You CANNOT buy a bare Gecko (at least not in the CONUS) I think my configuration guide we posted still might be in cs.orst.edu. Dave -- Paradigm Shift Corporation info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXT Object Channel Partner 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) Subject: Dell #9GXE PCI Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <Co4uLL.Au3@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 06:12:57 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group Keywords: Dell #9GXE PCI Ihave been able to get NS/I up and running on a Dell XPS P60 in VGA. Has anyone been able to get anything better than VGA with the Dell issue #9GXE PCI video card with 2MB VRAM/1MB DRAM (this is a Level 12 card I believe). I tried both the #9 GXE driver and the S3 driver but neither do the job. The #9 driver does make the screen go strange (like the sync is out of control, it's not the monitor). And the S3 driver says it's not an S3 card. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Tim
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Drive Speed Date: 16 Apr 1994 15:35:08 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2op0jc$mb@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <2onsi8$bpi@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Hi! Has anybody checked the difference in Drive Performance for th BT445S compared to AHA1542C with the same harddisk. I'd like to know, if the new Adaptec Driver from Next uses the VLBus of the BT445S. Can anybody give us some Drive Performance values for the NCR PCI driver with a good hard disk (preferable the same as in the test with the BT445S. I tested my DEC DSP3105 1GB with an AHA1542C within 486 50 MHz with 16 MB RAM NS3.2/FIP , AHA1542 uses 5.0 MB/s DMA Transfer to Host RAM and uses sync mode to DEC harddisk. Drive Performance: write 526 kb/sec read 953 kb/sec Bye, Michael ps: I used v1.1 of Drive Performance.
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't boot: Adaptech 1740 w/ PAS 16 Date: 16 Apr 1994 15:05:43 GMT Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <2oous7$lek@news1.digex.net> I am unable to boot NeXTSTEP on my Northgate 486/50 EISA with a PAS 16. Everything is fine without the PAS16, but when installed I get SCSI timeouts and then the machine hangs. This happens before the PAS16 driver is loaded. Everthing works fine under Windows, Windows NT, and Linux. I've spent hours trying different hardware setting without any luck. If anyone has any clues, or has a similiar system running, please tell me how your hardware is configured. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Bender | E-Mail: Scott_Bender@harmony.digex.net, or Harmony Data Systems | sbender@Mountain.Net, or 2141 Wisconsin Ave NW Unit 504 | sbender@access.digex.net, or Washington, DC 20007 | 76057.653@compuserve.com Voice & Fax: 202-342-1214 | (NeXT-Mail Accepted) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about that Alpha port? Date: 16 Apr 1994 15:45:04 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS Distribution: na Message-ID: <BWH.94Apr16114504@beach.cis.ufl.edu> References: <2okove$1vk@cobber.cord.edu> <2oonvd$d96@inxs.concert.net> In-reply-to: info@paradigm-shift.com's message of 16 Apr 1994 13:07:57 GMT And note that they have pretty much bet the farm on Alpha, and thus indirectly on Windows NT. Bad bad news for DEC. Since NT's utter failure in the marketplace DEC has had to do a massive shift and try and get other operating systems on their chip, unfortunately VMS isn't "open" (contrary to their OpenVMS) and OSF/1 isn't exactly selling like hotcakes. Brian -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Hook | Specializing in real-time 3D graphics | | Box 90315 |---------------------------------------| | Gainesville, FL 32607 | Internet: bwh@cis.ufl.edu | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EATA timeouts yet again - SERIOUS BUG? Message-ID: <1994Apr15.100149.17444@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Date: 15 Apr 94 10:01:49 EDT Organization: Univ of Miami IR Colleagues, With respect to the EATA timeouts on my IntelGX with a DPT 2022A controller - As I have told you, this computer seemed to be working great without EATA timeouts - as long as I used only the internal HD and no additional SCSI devices. Well, after 6-7 weeks, I finally got an EATA timeout. As before, it happened first thing in the morning as I attempted to sign on the computer. The workspace was very slow in coming up and never seemed to finish doing everything necessary. I rebooted without apparent filesystem damage. I still find the circumstances which (on my machine) lead to such timeouts to be strange - The timeouts always occur when I am logging on and always when logging while physically at the server. I have never seen these timeouts when logging on from another machine or during any other disk activity on clients. (In spite of intensive disk activity from use by 15 client machines - Intel and Motorola.) So, there is nothing we can do apparently to prevent such disasterous crashes of a server - I have tried everything as most of you have also. Tom Herbert University of Miami NeXT - ARE YOU LISTENING? - WE HAVE AN NSF SPONSORED COURSE USING THESE MACHINES - WE WOULD LIKE TO BUY MORE NEXTSTEP MACHINES AND MAKE THIS THE DOMINANT MACHINE STUDENTS SEE - NOT EASY TO JUSTIFY THIS WHEN SERVERS CANNOT MADE TO BE STABLE! therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu (305) 284-6220
From: Martin David Frankel <mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:54:14 -0400 Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0hg2N6_00iUyM2uKkf@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Apr.15.01.51.03.1994.25530@gandalf.rutgers.edu> > Question: > If you are so interested in NeXTSTEP, why haven't you bought > it already? Well, this question wasn't directed at me, but I can give my opinion on it. I have a NeXT slab. I love NeXTstep. I intend my next computer to run NeXTstep. But I'll be damned if that computer has Intel Inside. Factors in that decision are the technological backwardness of the x86 line, the poor quality and integration of your typical clone, the confusing and inadequate state of driver support in NS/FIP, and many more. But in the end it comes down to style; the entire PC clone industry seems to me to be utterly lacking in elegance. Painting 'em black isn't going to fix that. Of course, at this point, buying an 040 slab is buying technological obsolecence. So what options are left to someone looking for a new computer? Not NeXTstep, in my opinion. That's why I'm going to continue using my 040 NeXT, into the next decade if necessary, until (a) NeXT Inc. goes out of business, (b) NeXTstep is ported onto a REAL computer, or (c) another great operating system appears on the market. -- Martin
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep for $100---or NS drivers? Date: 16 Apr 1994 18:31:05 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2opat9$blg@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2op52q$1qi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> The alternative to running Openstep is running NeXTStep. Unfortunately, this is often impossible due to hardware requirements, even on the Intel platform. So, I might be an openstep for linux. However: My first choice would be a company that sold and supported lots of NS drivers for 3rd party hardware. Right now, I'd be willing to pay $100 for a good reliable supported NCR PCI SCSI driver, $100 for an ATI Ultra GX-Pro driver for rev 1-3 that can do 1280*1024 in 72Hz (as it can under Windows), and $200 for a driver for the newest ATI 64bit card that can do a speedy 1280*1024*16 @72Hz. I am sure other people feel like me. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep difference... Date: 16 Apr 1994 19:33:19 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Distribution: world Message-ID: <2opehv$fo6@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <2ond3p$j0o@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <2ond3p$j0o@news.doit.wisc.edu> haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker) writes: > Is Next shipping a NEXTStep/Sparc product? Or for that matter are they > shipping anything other than NS/Intel and NS/Next? > I'm really tired of NS/I and would like an alternative.It seems silly to > spend $5000 on another intel based machine to run NextStep that doesn't > feel any faster (and sometimes feels slower) than our NextStation turbo > color. I'm refering to overall usage (launching apps, running compiles, > scrolling through online documentation, ...). > ..................STUFF DELETED............................ > Jessica Hayden > UW-Madison, Dept Chemistry > hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu I agree with you completely, Jessica. I'm using a slow old black cube, and I'm not too excited about Intel, although they're talking about 100MHz Pentiums. But just last week I played with a new HP/712 with 64Mb/600Mb which is priced in the $5K-$8K range. It was running NEXTSTEP! It looks like a pretty nice improvement over Intel. NS/HP is in beta now, but already has a lot of my favorite apps like Diagram and Concurrence, and seems pretty stable. If you pop up Builder-Options in ProjectBuilder you see Build-for: Next, Intel, HP. Just check the ones you want to support, and hit Build! So, porting should be a breeze. The graphics is only 8-bit, but for some technical reasons that I don't understand (somebody explain?) it displays 24-bit images (subtle shades like skintones) as well as my 24-bit Nextdimension, and a hell of a lot faster. It has some built-in "multimedia" hardware (mpeg? -- again, I don't know technical details) for which my NeXT rep says they are writing a NeXTtime driver. They claim NS/HP will be out of beta by around Expo time, and runs on the full 700 series. So, maybe there's a light at the end of the Int(unn)el. --Bob-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeouts yet again - SERIOUS BUG? Date: 16 Apr 1994 20:45:59 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2opiq7$6kn@cerberus.wsc.com> References: <1994Apr15.100149.17444@umiami.ir.miami.edu> In article <1994Apr15.100149.17444@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: > NeXT - ARE YOU LISTENING? - WE HAVE AN NSF SPONSORED COURSE USING THESE > MACHINES - WE WOULD LIKE TO BUY MORE NEXTSTEP MACHINES AND MAKE THIS > THE DOMINANT MACHINE STUDENTS SEE - NOT EASY TO JUSTIFY THIS WHEN SERVERS > CANNOT MADE TO BE STABLE! > I think NeXT's response to this kind of thing is "We're not a server company". At least, that's what I've heard before. - darcy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: [Query] NeXTCube and monitors Message-ID: <CoBu4G.op@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <Co9Eno.LGt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Distribution: na Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 00:45:52 GMT In article <Co9Eno.LGt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> scotto@spasm.cica.indiana.edu (Scott Ostrander) writes: #I currently have a NeXTCube with a grayscale MegaPixel display and a #NeXTDimension 21" colour monitor installed. I would like to remove the #MegaPixel display and connect the keyboard via a SoundBox, which I have. #My problem is that the Model 150.00 cable I have, which the MegaPixel #monitor came with, does not seem to work with the SoundBox. I get a #static pop, then nothing, when I try to power on. # #Going back to the two monitor setup boots fine. # #I am assuming a need a different cable? Is there something I need to #configure to tell the machine not to display images on that port? I need #help with this. You will need a new power supply or will have to supply a load to the existing power supply. Mine does the exact same thing and on mine it's because I have a very old cube. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep difference... Date: 16 Apr 1994 22:20:08 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2opoaoINNma4@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <2ond3p$j0o@news.doit.wisc.edu> <2opehv$fo6@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> DISCLAIMER: I work for H-P, but I don't know any more about Gecko (HP 9000/712) or NS/HP than has been openly published. If I did, I couldn't tell you anyway without having to kill you afterwards :-) In article <2opehv$fo6@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>, cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan) writes: |> I agree with you completely, Jessica. I'm using a slow old black cube, |> and I'm not too excited about Intel, although they're talking about 100MHz |> Pentiums. But just last week I played with a new HP/712 with 64Mb/600Mb |> which is priced in the $5K-$8K range. It was running NEXTSTEP! It looks |> like a pretty nice improvement over Intel. NS/HP is in beta now, but |> already has a lot of my favorite apps like Diagram and Concurrence, and |> seems pretty stable. If you pop up Builder-Options in ProjectBuilder you |> see Build-for: Next, Intel, HP. Just check the ones you want to support, |> and hit Build! So, porting should be a breeze. The graphics is only |> 8-bit, but for some technical reasons that I don't understand (somebody |> explain?) it displays 24-bit images (subtle shades like skintones) as well |> as my 24-bit Nextdimension, and a hell of a lot faster. Gecko's base graphics system supports 24-bit addressability, and uses a Floyd- Steinberg (?) dithering process in hardware to reduce that to 8-bit. I've also heard from somebody that they do some funky stuff with the color maps. |> It has some |> built-in "multimedia" hardware (mpeg? -- again, I don't know technical |> details) for which my NeXT rep says they are writing a NeXTtime driver. The PA-7100LC (the PA-RISC variant used in Gecko) has some extensions to the PA-RISC intruction set intended to accelerate multimedia applications like MPEG and JPEG. I've heard that one of the most useful (although it sounds pretty pedestrian at first) is the ability to execute two 16-bit operations in parallel on 32-bit operands with a single instruction. In addition to doubling the effective performance of the operation itself, this also eliminates a whole lot of shifts, loads and stores from typical image-processing algorithms. |> They claim NS/HP will be out of beta by around Expo time, and runs on the |> full 700 series. So, maybe there's a light at the end of the Int(unn)el. |> --Bob-- |> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |> .Dr. Robert F. Cahalan (Bob)...#..Laboratory for Atmospheres...... |> .cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov..#..NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center |> .*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771............. |> .FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276........... |> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
From: acs_goray@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Digital Ears box Message-ID: <1994Apr16.171505.4015@rivers> Date: 16 Apr 94 17:15:05 -0600 Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls hi i own a digital ears sound box ( was being used in campus music studio ) which can input into the port labeled "DSP" the front of the box has left and right channel inputs, and i understand that it takes a 44.1 kHz sampling rate. the question is, how do i use it? for that matter, what software talks to the digital signal port at all? i went through the applications that i could find on the computer i was using, but anything that had to do with sounds seemed to deal either with sound files or expect a cd-rom i am also posting this to .software, hopefully someone can let me know what sort of application to use. i was hoping for a sort of mixing board enviornment. thanks, jason -- [|=================================================================|] [| Jason Goray Jason.Goray@uwrf.edu |] [| Trevor Goray same |] [| canis lupus c_lupus |] [| |] [| < INSERT CUTE MESSAGE HERE > |] [|=================================================================|]
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about that Alpha port? Date: 16 Apr 1994 15:46:24 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Distribution: na Message-ID: <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> References: <2okove$1vk@cobber.cord.edu> <2oonvd$d96@inxs.concert.net> <BWH.94Apr16114504@beach.cis.ufl.edu> In article <BWH.94Apr16114504@beach.cis.ufl.edu>, Brian Hook <bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu> wrote: > >And note that they have pretty much bet the farm on Alpha, and thus >indirectly on Windows NT. Bad bad news for DEC. Since NT's utter failure >in the marketplace DEC has had to do a massive shift and try and get other >operating systems on their chip, unfortunately VMS isn't "open" (contrary >to their OpenVMS) and OSF/1 isn't exactly selling like hotcakes. > > And at $22/share as someone posted, that's about 450k share. Since they must have spent millions and millions developing the alpha, I'd think that a mere $10 million more would be worth it to sell some more machines. How many alphas could they have sold? NT is pretty much a disaster, osf/1, didn't they shut down? OpenVMS I would think would be the largest seller of alphas. Have they even sold 50k of the alphas? I'm sure they've spent tons on fabs for the alpha. There are several supercomputers that use alphas. I think its just that next is too busy to do an alpha port, and dec can't help but be a dinosaur. -nick
Control: cancel <2odkhc$3gp@herald.indirect.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,pgh.forsale From: alex@hal.rhein-main.de (Alexander Lehmann) Subject: REPOST: cmsg cancel <2odkhc$3gp@herald.indirect.com> Message-ID: <CoCuqJ.Ft@hal.rhein-main.de> References: <SuperBot.170y@megalith.miami.fl.us> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:56:42 GMT Due to a format error in the Date: line, this message could not be processed by cnews. SuperBot (SuperBot@megalith.miami.fl.us) wrote: : cancel <2odkhc$3gp@herald.indirect.com> : from nike@indirect.com (Laurence Canter) : in newsgroup(s) comp.sys.next.hardware,pgh.forsale : : This article canceled bye an automated AREXX Script
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Re: TWO optical disk drives in a single cube ?? Message-ID: <1994Apr16.053045.412@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. References: <Co9CrF.54E@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 05:30:45 GMT In article <Co9CrF.54E@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: > yup, only one... > > peter > > Marc Guenther (yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de) wrote: > : Hello, > > : does anybody know if its possible to put a second optical drive (one of > : those original NeXT drives) into a Cube, and use both of them at once ? [munch] Um. The documentation that came with my drive (or my cube, I can't remember at the moment) had explicit step by step instructions for installing two drives. The faceplates on older cubes have two pop-out panels for discs. Are all these just wishfull thinking on NeXT's part? david john burrowes
From: swiet@cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PLEASE READ: Organization of posts to comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 17 Apr 1994 03:18:15 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, The Johns Hopkins University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oq9pn$e5i@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> Since the vote to split the comp.sys.next.hardware did not pass, I suggest/propose that people include architechture names in the subjects of their posts. If this is done in a consistent fashion, people can make effective use of killfiles instead of wading through a slew of impertinent articles. For example: Subject: [Intel] New drivers for SoundBlaster audio card! Subject: [Motorola] Which midi devices work with the NeXT serial ports? Subject: [Alpha] Is there going to be a port to the DEC Alpha? Subject: [HP] Can I spraypaint my Gecko black? Subject: [Sparc] Need help printing to a SparcPrinter from NEXTSTEP! Subject: [Sparc, Intel] What minimum configurations will OpenStep run on? Subject: [PowerPC] Turn a PowerMac into an NRW?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: PD SB16 working? Message-ID: <CoDznA.9H4@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 04:40:21 GMT Has anyone been able to get the PD SoundBlaster16 to work at all? It appears to take up 2 DMA channels, 1 IRQ and a port address. Seems a lot,but I don't get any conflicts, nevertheless I also don't hear anything! The PAS NeXT driver seems to work fine for the PAS16 Basic, although I suspect it slows down the system. Is there a commercial SB16 driver out there? This is odd given the popularity of the SB16 series. Even if one could get the PD version to "work", which I can't, one still would not be able to record. It would be nice to have some information regarding SB16 driver dates, as it may be time to get anyother card. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT) [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Re: Digital Ears box Message-ID: <rscottCoE5Gx.MsK@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1994Apr16.171505.4015@rivers> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 06:46:09 GMT In article <1994Apr16.171505.4015@rivers> acs_goray@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes: >hi > i own a digital ears sound box ( was being used in campus music >studio ) which can input into the port labeled "DSP" the front of the >box has left and right channel inputs, and i understand that it takes a >44.1 kHz sampling rate. <munch> >thanks, jason > Try using SoundWorks 3.0 by the same guys (Metaresearch). It does terrific work. Metaresearch, Inc. Lee Buhler 503-238-5728 516 SE Morrison, Suite M-1 Portland, OR 97214 Don't have their email - probably something like info@metaresearch.com or peruse the ftp site at Stanford for Paul Lansky's Real Time (rt for short). ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu Works great with an audio DAT ie TASCAM DA-30. Have fun but get a big drive :-) Charlie Dvorak (cd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ssherman@nyx.cs.du.edu (stacy sherman) Subject: Re: what about the SLEEP mode for hard disks? Message-ID: <1994Apr17.060812.20573@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account) Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. References: <cheLGei00iV5E4eaEA@andrew.cmu.edu> <2oe7ba$936@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <DuncanMG-120494115845@devmcd.dev.ornl.gov> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 94 06:08:12 GMT Granted, the HD spinning up & down causes the most wear to it, but I'm reluctant to leave my computer on for long periods of time because of the energy it uses. I saw some numbers (on this group I think) a few weeks ago and it looked like it would cost well over 100 bucks to leave your average computer on all year. It seems nowdays that most hard disks get outgrown before they have a chance to break, even if you are turning it on afew times a day. In my case, I have a computer with an external HD. The computer has a fan inside it and so does the HD. That's a total of 3 electric motors in the system. I can only guess this uses quite a bit of power. Should I leave my computer on if I might use it in few hours, especially in Hawaii where electricity costs around 15 cents per Kilowatt hour? What I'm REALLY wondering about is when you use your home computer for Voice mail and fax (like the Compaq in the comercial). To use the computer for something like this, you have to leave your computer on all the time. Unless there is a way to cut power to the monitor and spin down the hard drive (and the fan if it won't overheat the computer), it would cost less to buy a fax/answering machine. The average person won't use these great new telephony features unless computers cut idle time power consumption (not to mention noise of spinning fans and HD's) to almost nil. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Stacy Sherman ssherman@nyx.cs.du.edu | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de (Ralf Neumann) Subject: Does the NEC triple speed CD Rom (3xi) work on the NeXT Message-ID: <1994Apr17.082337.18830@rafa.in-berlin.de> Sender: ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de Organization: DRN Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 08:23:37 GMT Hello, I want to buy a CD ROM. There are two which are interesting: The Toshiba XM 3401B or the new NEC 3xi I know that the Toshiba works perfect with the NeXT for Data, Sound and XA-CDs. Does the NEC tripple speed drive all three on the NeXT (especially XA-CDs)? Thanks in advance Ralf %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% *| Ralf Neumann | ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de | Try NeXTmail please! |* *| ************ | Voice +49 30 / 321 78 84 | Fax +49 30 / 321 28 68|* %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: TWO optical disk drives in a single cube ?? Date: 17 Apr 1994 11:12:15 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Message-ID: <2or5if$eic@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <Co72Hu.KvL@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <2oi12s$kie@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> In <2oi12s$kie@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (David Evans) writes: >In article <Co72Hu.KvL@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de >(Marc Guenther) writes: >> Hello, >> >> does anybody know if its possible to put a second optical drive (one of >> those original NeXT drives) into a Cube, and use both of them at once ? I tried this on an 040 running 3.2. It seemed to work at first, but then got confused about which disk was which. The second drive has one of the wires cut on the ribbon cable so it should be able to distinguish. Close, but no cigar. > You could always stick an '030 board in there as well. Crude, but effective. Yes. -- .. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
From: tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't power-up a color station Date: 17 Apr 1994 11:17:07 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Message-ID: <2or5rj$ena@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <Co8836.nn@id.com> In <Co8836.nn@id.com> randy@id.com (Randy Tidd) writes: >I have a color station that won't power up. When I hit the power key on >the keyboard I get nothing at all. I suddenly realized that it was off >one day that I had a lot of company over, including some kids, so the >possibilities are endless. If your internal drive spins up, then removing and replacing the SIMMs would be a good thing to try. -- .. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
From: tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Query] NeXTCube and monitors Date: 17 Apr 1994 11:24:47 GMT Organization: The University of Manitoba Distribution: na Message-ID: <2or69v$et8@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <Co9Eno.LGt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <CoBu4G.op@infoserv.com> In <CoBu4G.op@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: >You will need a new power supply or will have to supply a >load to the existing power supply. I have heard 20O ohms @ 20 watts across pins 12 and 13. -- .. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Bad sector on disk: How do I recover? Message-ID: <1994Apr17.012232.27699@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 01:22:32 GMT When I reboot, fsck finds a bad sector that it can't bypass or repair. What can I do with this sector so that fsck will once again give my disk a clean bill of health? (How can I declare it "bad" once and for all, for example?) This doesn't seem to be in any FAQ, so I guess it is not so frequently asked. :-) Don Petcher
From: trestrai@news.delphi.com (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems initializing file system on NSfip Date: 18 Apr 1994 00:44:43 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <2osl5r$5jv@news.delphi.com> Keywords: Quantum PD1800S,disk,newfs,mkfs I have NS 3.2 for Intel installed on my IDE drive and wish to install the Developer portion on an external Quantum PD1800S external SCSI disk. I am able to partition the disk with no problems, but when I use the 'Initialize disk' box when I login (named 'Disk'), and then check it with the 'Attributes' tool, it only shows up as 10Kb instead of 1.047 Gb. I then tried to initialize a filesystem using the 'disk -i' command from Terminal.app and got the following info which is not as I expected: newfs -n -v /dev/rsd0h mkfs /dev/rsd0h 2143936 99 14 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 4501 bytes per inode. Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 206 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated. /dev/rsd0a 2143936 sectors in 1547 cylinders of 14 tracks, 99 sectors 1097.7Mb in 97 cyl groups (16 c/g, 11.35Mb/g, 2048 i/g) I was expecting the inode size to be 2048 bytes (the default?). Do I need to use some other parameter than 'disk -u' and then 'init' when in interactive mode ? I'm sort of confused by all the numbers above, as I'm used to just typing 'format x:' under DOS, and have no real experience with UNIX filesystems. I read the chapters on Filesystems and Disks in O'Reilly's "Essential System Administration" (the NeXT documents weren't very helpful), but am without a clue at this point as to how to proceed to get a proper filesystem setup. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Jeff Trestrail trestrail@delphi.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems initializing file system on NSfip Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 23:19:18 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0hgTkqm00Uh703j0FD@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2osl5r$5jv@news.delphi.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 18-Apr-94 Problems initializing file .. by TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM@new > I have NS 3.2 for Intel installed on my IDE drive and wish to install > the Developer portion on an external Quantum PD1800S external SCSI disk. > I am able to partition the disk with no problems, but when I use > the 'Initialize disk' box when I login (named 'Disk'), and then check it > with the 'Attributes' tool, it only shows up as 10Kb instead of 1.047 Gb. The 'Attributes' tool shows you how much space is being used on that drive; the lower left corner of the shelf on a browser shows you the amount of space free. This is normal behavior. Use 'df' in a Terminal to get more complete information. > I then tried to initialize a filesystem using the 'disk -i' command > from Terminal.app and got the following info which is not as I expected: > > newfs -n -v /dev/rsd0h > mkfs /dev/rsd0h 2143936 99 14 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t > > Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to > cylinder group size, using 4501 bytes per inode. > Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. > > Warning: 206 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated. > > /dev/rsd0a 2143936 sectors in 1547 cylinders of 14 tracks, 99 sectors > 1097.7Mb in 97 cyl groups (16 c/g, 11.35Mb/g, 2048 i/g) > > I was expecting the inode size to be 2048 bytes (the default?). Do I > need to use some other parameter than 'disk -u' and then 'init' when > in interactive mode ? The inode size controls how many inodes are produced (and therefore what is the maximum number of files that can be placed on the disk). This is unrelated to the physical sector size or the logical block/fragment size. The warnings you've received are not very significant, although by tweaking the numbers you could produce a better format then what disk figures out by default. > I'm sort of confused by all the numbers above, as I'm used to just > typing 'format x:' under DOS, and have no real experience with UNIX > filesystems. I read the chapters on Filesystems and Disks in O'Reilly's > "Essential System Administration" (the NeXT documents weren't very > helpful), but am without a clue at this point as to how to proceed to > get a proper filesystem setup. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Your drive should be in a perfectly fine condition. Simply create symbolic links from this drive to your boot drive and place files in them. (Try "man ln".) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Jason (yas10800@tree.egr.uh.edu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Date: 18 Apr 1994 03:37:26 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2osv9m$ouf@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <2o9qtc$br9@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> > I would love to see NeXTStep running on my PowerMac as well... > Count me in! > Maybe I could get my hands on a black case...... :) > Johnny That would be beutiful! I'd _love_ to have NeXTStep running on a PowerMac. I deal with NeXTs in the engineering program I'm in at the University of Houston and I think it's still by far the best OS anywhere, but I hate having to trek all the way up there to get my hands on them. This would certainly change my purchasing habits a great deal!
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ?Strange IDE hard disk problems NS/I 3.2 Date: 18 Apr 1994 04:47:52 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <2ot3do$edv@gamera.umd.edu> Keywords: NS/Intel, 3.2, IDE, hard disks I "tried" ro install NeXTstep/Intel v3.2 on an IBM PS/1 "Expert" system (486DX2-50 w/12MB of RAM). I used an Adaptec 1542C to connect a Sun CDROM drive (Sony unit) to load the CDROM distribution. Our first attempt to a MAXTOR 345MB IDE disk failed part way through the first part of the load process with lots of weird UNIX disk errors. I went in and "cleaned off" the disk with a DOS FORMAT and re-started the install, and that time it worked. Unfortunately while configuring NeXTstep we messed something up bad enough that a re-install was the only easy way to recover so upon retrying this we got those same errors again! We tried using a MAXTOR 540MB hard disk and same thing! We re-tried using the 345 and got farther but then started getting the errors during the second part of the load process (after the configure.app process asked its questions). The PS/1's on-board IDE controller was used in all instances. The errors varied, but mostly were "read errors" during the gnu-unzip phase unpacking the distribution to the hard disk, they SEEMed to indicate the problem was with the hard disk, not the CDROM though. Any of this ring a bell with anyone who might be using IDE hard disks, MAXTOR drives, or PS/1 systems? Thanks for any input. -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Mike F. Santangelo + . ...And the snow came down as Dept. Head-Computer & Network Systems + + .. softly as an owl falling into UMCEES / CBL (Solomons Island) + + . . a bin of lettuce...no...-B Kliban
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Can format Quantum PD1800S Mac but not NeXT -- Why? Message-ID: <CoDDu3.1Gy@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2ol1jk$62h@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 20:49:14 GMT In article <2ol1jk$62h@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes: # #My new 1.8 GB Quantum hard drive (PD 1800S) works fine, because I have #been able to take it to the lab and format it on the macintoshes there. #However, I am unable to initialize the drive on my 68040 NeXT running #NextStep 3.2. I get error messages saying "incomplete disk transfer" and #"write of boot block 1 failed." There is obviously some software #formatting trick to get this thing initialized. Does anybody know the #solution? What other type of drive is in the system? The problem you are having is the other drive/s in the system are resetting or grabbing the bus and it interferes with writes to this drive. I have had this problem before with a Micropolis drive. Actually I just got rid of a Micropolis because it was screwing up my Maxtor. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Upgrading Colorstation Memory Message-ID: <CoDDw7.1Hp@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2on12iINN6pr@phage.cshl.org> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 20:50:30 GMT In article <2on12iINN6pr@phage.cshl.org> cozza@phage.cshl.org (Steven Cozza) writes: #I want to upgrade the memory in my non-Turbo NeXT Colorstation. Currently it #has only 16meg and I would like to add another 16. Could someone tell me #what type of SIMM I can use to do this? Also if you know of a good reliable #source of SIMMs I would appreciate that information too. # it should be in the FAQ, but you need the 32 bit wide 72 pin simms to upgrade. open the machine and take a look at the ram you have. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with BusLogic 747S (EISA) Date: 18 Apr 1994 07:33:21 GMT Organization: Gemeinde Wien MD-ADV/Ma; A-1010 Wien; Austria Message-ID: <PFP.94Apr18093321@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> I've got problems with a BT 747S EISA. The revision level is 3.7/4.7, and I've got Quantum HD's and TECMART streamer. This combination works great with BSDI (BSD/386) and NeXTSTEP is running very good with the same combination and an AHA 1542b instead of BusLogic. I've got the new drivers (1520,1521) from NextAnswers, but this doesn't help :-{. peter -- _ / _ / Peter.Pflaeging@magwien.gv.at / / / / Grabmayrg. 18/6; A-1210 Wien; Austria/Europe ___/ ___/ (Phone) +43 1 387872 or 4000/91178 __/eter __/flaeging (Fax) +43 1 387872
From: mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Floppy drive panic Date: 18 Apr 1994 00:12:01 -0700 Organization: YoyoDyne Propulsion Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <2otbs1$6ep@crl.crl.com> I hate PC hardware. I get a consistent panic when I attempt to access by 1.44 3.5" floppy. On boot, I get errors to the console: FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs: Stray Interupt this will repeat a couple-three times, but otherwise it boots OK. When I attempt to access the floppy drive, the system will panic with Panic:(cpu 0) FloppyArch: invalid dma byte count The Configure app shows the floppy using dma 2 and IRQ 6, with no conflicting assignments. The IO base is at 0x3f2 , again with no apparent conflicts. The controller is a floppy/IDE/serial job that apparently is configured entirely from jumpers. Would Configure.app lie to me, or is something else the matter? -- Don McGregor | "If there is a God, the Cardinal de Richelieu mcgredo@crl.com | will have much to answer for. If not...well, | he had a successful life."
From: david@worg.questor.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Bad sector on disk: How do I recover? Message-ID: <1994Apr18.070808.10955@worg.questor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 07:08:08 GMT References: <1994Apr17.012232.27699@wuphys.wustl.edu> Organization: Vancouver NeXT Users Society (VNUS) In article <1994Apr17.012232.27699@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: >When I reboot, fsck finds a bad sector that it can't bypass or repair. What >can I do with this sector so that fsck will once again give my disk a clean >bill of health? (How can I declare it "bad" once and for all, for example?) >This doesn't seem to be in any FAQ, so I guess it is not so frequently >asked. :-) > >Don Petcher > If you are running NS 3.2, the program /usr/etc/reasb can do bad block reassignment. Man page is available. I don't know if this program is available in NS 3.0/3.1 though. -- David Lau (aka Sleepy Head) Independent Software Developer Phone: (604)276-1873 FAX: (604)276-1874 Email: david@worg.questor.org
From: keithm@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Keith Marshall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep hardware requirements Date: 17 Apr 1994 02:37:19 +1000 Organization: University of Wollongong, NSW, Australia. Message-ID: <2op47v$g16@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au> Summary: Nextstep hardware requirements I'm trying to find out the disk space and RAM requirements of NeXTstep (for different platforms) for an article IUm writing about user interfaces for a small non-profit magazine. -So, can anyone tell me? keithm@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au
From: or@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Oliver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep hardware requirements Date: 18 Apr 1994 12:36:00 GMT Organization: TU Darmstadt Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oturg$qt9@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <2op47v$g16@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au> Well, that depends on the machine you want to run NextStep on. Let's say, you take an Intel PC 486 or Pentium; just the System with GUI will take around 250..300 MB disk space. But, the most interesting thing for NextStep comes with the developer's package: The Interface Builder. This will take some more MB, together >300. Don't forget some applications and user data, finally u need 400 MB or more. Let's talk about RAM... I never heard of a OS that needs more RAM than NS. To work with a minimal non-color display, 16 MB may be enough for SOME people. Next recommends at least 24 MB for color display. If you want a high resolution too, 32 MB are better. Now imagine you want to run Mathematica or some graphic software; so a serious color Next system will have 48 MB or even 64 (just thing of memory fragmentation...a server should not need to reboot too often, some reboot once or twice a year.) Someone posted some time ago, he would upgrade his machine to 128 MB - but who is able to pay THAT ? You see, it always depends on your personal needs...
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: NeXT has released the Viper PCI Driver (ftp.next.com) Date: 18 Apr 1994 12:30:38 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2otuhe$r7q@inxs.concert.net> It's out and it's on the net with SEVERAL improvements over the beta that had been released. Dave -- Paradigm Shift Corporation info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXT Object Channel Partner 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "TWARECKI,PIOTR,MR" <B7NS000@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Subject: Problem with NeXT laser print quality Message-ID: <15APR94.23772044.0096@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sender: usenet@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Organization: McGill University Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 03:00:40 GMT Hello, my (new) NeXT laser printer produces excellent output with text and line graphics, but when raster of various density is printed, there is small variations in darkness (horizontal bands) and every exactly 3.7 inch the dot density suddenly increases (a dark 0.025 inch band) and then there is a 0.025 inch white line. Considering the equipment is new, I'm not sure what might be causing it. My judgement tells me that it's either the toner cartridge (the drum ?), or there is some problem with the feed mechanism. The cartridge is a brand new Nashua EP-S. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated, since I'm not sure if I should call Bell Atlantic or Nashua. Thank you in advance for help, Peter. Peter Twarecki <b7ns@MUSICB.McGill.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "TWARECKI,PIOTR,MR" <B7NS000@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> Subject: RE: Problem with NeXT laser print quality (FIXED) Message-ID: <16APR94.17549939.0097@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sender: usenet@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA Organization: McGill University References: <15APR94.23772044.0096@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 21:14:59 GMT Hi again, for anyone interested: I took a chance and got an original Canon EP-S cartridge. The print quality increased dramatically and the problems with blank thin lines every 3.7 inch are gone. Also the printer stopped making those weird knocking noises. This should teach me a lesson. Peter. Peter Twarecki <b7ns@MUSICB.McGill.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Problems with BusLogic 747S (EISA) Message-ID: <CoGAvs.sC@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <PFP.94Apr18093321@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:38:15 GMT > I've got problems with a BT 747S EISA. > > The revision level is 3.7/4.7, and I've got Quantum HD's and TECMART > streamer. > [munch] > > I've got the new drivers (1520,1521) from NextAnswers, but this > doesn't help :-{. > There are also some NextAnswers, that tell you to 'downgrade' the bios! Gerd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Hans Stoeger Subject: Re: Floppy drive panic Message-ID: <CoGEA4.yJ@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2otbs1$6ep@crl.crl.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 11:51:39 GMT In article <2otbs1$6ep@crl.crl.com> mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) writes: > floppy. On boot, I get errors to the console: > > FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs: Stray Interupt > > this will repeat a couple-three times, but otherwise it boots > OK. Some for our machine, but it works fine otherwise. I thougt it could be a problem caused by the Pentium? Hans
From: fliu@solo.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: random kernel panic with adaptec 1542b and PAS studio Date: 18 Apr 1994 14:57:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2ou75c$i1h@news.service.uci.edu> My NS/I 3.2 with an Adaptec 1542b had been running without any problem for several months. A week ago, I installed a PAS studio 16 sound card and a NEC 500 3x internal CDROM. Ever since then, the system started to crash rather randomly. It boots alright (sometime with an error message: ttysccc1 receive error 900 or ttysccc1 receive erorr 901, but it runs alright), after a while it all of a sudden panics, and then I had to reboot the machine. The time between booting and panic is rather random, sometimes a few minutes, in this case most probably I have Backspace running and there is not a CD-ROM in the CDROM Drive. Other times, it takes hours, in this case most of the time I did put a CD ROM in the CDROM Drive and I probably did not run backspace. Reading Nextanswers on the PAS 16 spectrum driver, I found it says that on some systems one can not play sound with over 22kHz rate, otherwise system may freeze or panic if one has and Adaptec card. But I am not playing any sound, in fact at times I did not even install the sound card driver. Any help or clue is appreciated. Thank you. Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering UC, Irvine e-mail: fliu@uci.edu
From: money4u2@aol.com (Money4U2) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS3.1 Intel Developer for sale Date: 18 Apr 1994 10:36:02 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2ou5si$73v@search01.news.aol.com> Unregistered with the free upgrade coupon to 3.2. Which is on special at $995. I has all manuals 3CD's Looking for best offer.
From: darius@panix.com (Darius Babanoury) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZEOS pentium Pantera Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 18 Apr 1994 11:38:22 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Sender: darius@panix.com Message-ID: <2ou9he$lvn@panix.com> Summary: Does NextStep work Keywords: Pentium NextStep Has anybody tried NextStep with ZEOS's Pantera machines? Does it work? Thanks. darius
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can intel 72pin simms work in a Turbo Color? Date: 18 Apr 1994 16:18:48 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2oubt8$969@news.doit.wisc.edu> We've got a NextStation turbo color with 4 16MB simms and Intel machines that have a mix of 4MB, 8MB, and 16MB simms. Since recent posts state that the turbo color can recognize 8MB simms (few pc's can), I'd like to swap two of the 16MB simms out of the turbo for two of the 8MB simms in our pc. They all look like 72pin simms, but I don't know if they are interchangable. Are they the same so I can do this swap? Thanks Jessica Hayden hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu Dept Chemistry, University of Wisconsin - Madison
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: UUCP and high speed connections: HELP! Date: 18 Apr 1994 17:12:03 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Message-ID: <2ouf13$e4v@newsflash.mitre.org> OK, I've read the online documentation. I've coordinated with the ad- ministrator of the site that "feeds" my NeXTStation. I've tried mul- tiple configurations, and I still can't seem to get a uucp connection that transfers more than 700 to 800 characters/second. Here is my situation: I've got a ZyXEL U-1496e and am connecting via UUCP to a feeder site for news and mail. UUCP connects through /dev/cufb at 19200 (maybe) to my modem which in turn connects to my feeder site at 14400 (V.32bis) with V.42 error correction. Compres- sion is explicitely disabled. (My counterpart says that compression tends to slow down batched news transfers because they are already compressed.) CTS/RTS is enabled (by default, I believe) so that the modem is not swamped by the 19200 speed of /dev/cufb. Now for the question/problem: Even with all of this, why am I still getting data rates (as measured in the UUCP SYSLOG file) of less than 800 cps? I don't get it; the setup is behaving as if it were running at 9600. Is the stock NeXT UUCP package incapable of setting the device to a speed above 9600? Well anyway here are what I believe are the relevant entries in my L.sys and L-devices files: L-devices - DIR cufb unused 19200 direct L.sys - <feedersite> Any DIR 19200 cufb \ "" AT \ OK ATL2 \ /* speaker volume = 2 */ OK AT&K3 \ /* disable compression */ OK AT&N17 \ /* V.32bis 14400...4800 */ OK ATDT5510095 \ CONNECT \r\c \ ogin:--ogin pandora \ ssword: <mypasswd> Anybody got an ideas? Does v.32bis imply a compression? Is there a way to verify the current speed of /dev/cufb while a UUCP connection is enabled? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks much. Sincerely, - Max | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | | NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | "Necessity is the mother of strange bedfellows." |
From: rfoote@rwj.sph.umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/I 3.2 w/TI microWriter PS23 Printer Date: 18 Apr 94 13:01:20 Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <rfoote.94Apr1813120@rwj.sph.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain We're currently looking to get a postscript printer for primary use with NEXTSTEP/FIP. From reading the docs, it looks like any postscript printer should work. Because of it's support for PCL and its wide support base, we're seriously considering the Microwriter PS23 from Texas Instruments. However, if anyone has any experience with this combo, or knows of any caveats or pluses of either the TI/MW-PS23 or it's integration w/NEXTSTEP, I'd be most appreciative. Richard Foote (rfoote@umich.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: gvdl@obelix (Godfrey Martin van der Linden) Subject: Media Failure on NSFIP SCSI drive Message-ID: <CoC806.yy@obelix.apana.org.au> Sender: gvdl@obelix.apana.org.au (Godfrey Martin van der Linden) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 05:45:41 GMT Ok, I just spent the most frustrating 2 weeks of my life. 2 Bad blocks and I may as well not have a Next box. I mean I couldn't even get the system to boot up enough to run a fsck. After reading the manuals, (User's Guide for f..k's sake). I couldn't find any way of emergency booting from either the floppy or the CD rom. I ended up buying a new hard drive (I needed one anyway), installed it as the boot drive and loaded up NS. Only then could I fsck the old drive to recover some of the data! I can't afford a real backup device. If this happens to me again I'll be totally screwed. Now why the hell can't NeXT get their shit together and print some decent emergency recovery stuff. The NS User's guide provided with 3.2 is a joke. I know something about unix and could eventually recover, what is a newbie supposed to do? vary pissed off Godfrey --- Godfrey van der Linden Sydney, Australia NeXTMail Preferred -- Godfrey van der Linden Sydney, Australia NeXTMail Preferred
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060 introduced?) Date: 18 Apr 1994 15:50:45 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2oua8l$bo8@cerberus.wsc.com> References: <2on076$942@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> > > 68040 68060 > >Mips 40 100 > >Mflops 3.5 13 > >Data Bus 32 32 > >Clock(MHz) 25,33,40 50,66 > >Instr cache 4kB 8kB > >Data cache 4kB 8kB Hey, when did my NeXTstation go from 15 MIPS, to 40? Just think, I got a performance upgrade without even knowing it. Even if that rating is for the 40MHz 040, then it would have to be less than 2x25MHz, which would be 30 MIPS. Maybe they have a supercool compiler in-house. Meaningless Indicators indeed... - darcy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) Subject: Diamond Viper drivers Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <CoGK9B.AD@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:00:46 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group Keywords: Viper VLB PCI DRIVER Just in case you didn't know, NeXT has posted the Diamond Viper drivers on ftp.next.com. The driver supports Diamond Viper VLB and PCI, and Genoa VideoBlitz 9200VL. Here are the specs: Diamond Viper VLB Display Adapter Display Modes (BT485 110MHz RAMDAC) 8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color 32-bit Color 800x600 1MB VRAM 800x600 1MB VRAM 640x480 2MB VRAM 56,60,72,75 Hz 56,60,72,75 Hz 60,72,75 Hz 1024x768 1MB VRAM 1024x768 2MB VRAM 800x600 2MB VRAM 60,70,72,75,80 Hz 60,70,72,75,80 Hz 56,60,72,75 Hz 1280x1024 2MB VRAM 1152x900 2MB VRAM 60 Hz 60,70 Hz 1152x900 1MB VRAM 60,70,72,74 Hz Diamond Viper PCI Display Adapter Display Modes (BT485 135MHz RAMDAC) 8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color 32-bit Color 800x600 1MB VRAM 800x600 1MB VRAM 640x480 2MB VRAM 56,60,72,75 Hz 56,60,72,75 Hz 60,72,75 Hz 1024x768 1MB VRAM 1024x768 2MB VRAM 800x600 2MB VRAM 60,70,72,75,80 Hz 60,70,72,75,80 Hz 56,60,72,75 Hz 1280x1024 2MB VRAM 1152x900 2MB VRAM 60,72,74,75 Hz 60,70 Hz 1600x1200 1MB VRAM 60 Hz 1152x900 1MB VRAM 60,70,72,74 Hz Genoa VideoBlitz 9200VL Display Adapter Display Modes (ATT20C 505-13 (135MHz) RAMDAC) 8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color 32-bit Color 800x600 1MB VRAM 800x600 1MB VRAM 640x480 2MB VRAM 56,60,72,75 Hz 56,60,72,75 Hz 60,72,75 Hz 1024x768 1MB VRAM 1024x768 2MB VRAM 800x600 2MB VRAM 60,70,72,75,80 Hz 60,70,72,75,80 Hz 56,60,72,75 Hz 1280x1024 2MB VRAM 1152x900 2MB VRAM 60,72,74,75 Hz 60,70 Hz 1600x1200 1MB VRAM 60 Hz 1152x900 1MB VRAM 60,70,72,74 Hz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: DEC MTE system toasted? Help! Message-ID: <1994Apr18.181356.2583@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1994Apr16.043125.7118@cs.yale.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 18:13:56 GMT In article <1994Apr16.043125.7118@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: Thanks for all the suggestions, even though none worked ;-) I had to rebuild the OS, and reconfigure the printer. That fixed everything. Cheers, -Nathan --- Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy" -- Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: NeXT has released the Viper PCI Driver (ftp.next.com) Message-ID: <CoGxM6.1n3@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2otuhe$r7q@inxs.concert.net> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 18:49:18 GMT In article <2otuhe$r7q@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) writes: > It's out and it's on the net with SEVERAL improvements over the beta that had > been released. > > > Dave > > -- > Paradigm Shift Corporation info@paradigm-shift.com > A NeXT Object Channel Partner 919.682.8553 [Voice] > Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] > > ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ******** Year, its nice. Works on mu STAR 9000, and with 1600 x 1200 in 8 Bit gray. And its faster then the ATI (at least VL compared to VL). And the 'mini dock' in the workspace preferences panel (dock) runs straight out of the panel ;-) Gerd
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 18 Apr 1994 15:25:40 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2oumrk$mij@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Much of this information is also available using the World Wide Web, <http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html> NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online --------------------------------------------------------- A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon as they become available. NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online --------------------------------------------------------- The NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is now available for product literature and pricing from NEXTSTEP developers. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. Comp.Sys.Next.Software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. Comp.Lang.Objective-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A new soundcard works under NS/FIP ! You have to hear this new one ! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 18 Apr 1994 19:05:21 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oullh$5pn@rosie.next.com> References: <menaf00.766308187@DMI.USherb.CA> In article <menaf00.766308187@DMI.USherb.CA> menaf00@DMI.USherb.CA (FRANCOIS MENARD) writes: | | MEDIATRIX INTRODUCES THE AUDIOTRIX PRO! | | SHERBROOKE, Quebec, Canada, March 9, 1994 Mediatrix Peripherals, Inc. | announces the availability of the Audiotrix Pro PC sound board. The | Audiotrix Pro is a high level sound board based on the brand-new Yamaha | OPL4 sound chip and provides an amazing 44 voices of polyphony through a | full General MIDI onboard synthesizer. The card also features 16-bit, | 48KHz DAT quality sampling and playback, as well as Sound Blaster, Ad Lib, | Roland MPU-401/MT32 and Microsoft Sound System hardware compatibility. | panning, chorus, pitch and surround sound processing; a Karaoke | <.. rest deleted to save space ..> Any sound card that is 100% compatible with the Microsoft Sound System will work with the NeXT supplied driver. There are many vendors that make such cards. -Rakesh
From: samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep hardware requirements Date: 18 Apr 1994 20:31:33 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ouqn5$cj8@cerberus.wsc.com> References: <2oturg$qt9@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In article <2oturg$qt9@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> or@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Oliver) writes: > Well, that depends on the machine you want to run NextStep on. > Let's say, you take an Intel PC 486 or Pentium; just the System with > GUI will take around 250..300 MB disk space. But, the most interesting > thing for NextStep comes with the developer's package: The Interface Builder. > This will take some more MB, together >300. Don't forget some applications > and user data, finally u need 400 MB or more. I have a NEXTSTEP configured machine, with a minimal system. It only takes up 90 Megs: Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 146726 89526 42527 68% My hard disk is only 150M, and I have a nice 42M to spare. As well, I haven't tried to slim this disk down at all. I'm sure that, if I wanted to, I could make it even smaller. Note that the things that take up lots of space are things like Webster, Oxford, and the documentation. NS comes with many things. If you're too poor to afford the hard disk space, then you don't get the extra goodies. This is fair... if you want more goodies, then you have to provide the space for them. > Let's talk about RAM... I never heard of a OS that needs more RAM than NS. > To work with a minimal non-color display, 16 MB may be enough for SOME people. > Next recommends at least 24 MB for color display. If you want a high resolution Um. Windows NT has similar RAM requirements. As well, you don't have buffered windows there, which means that you'll save a little RAM, for an uglier system. Anyway, modern OSs will have similar RAM requirements. Jeez, people advertise PCs saying they handle "up to 192 Megs of RAM" or whatever. The point is, it's funny to see people fainting at 16 Megs as systems become more powerful. You also forgot to mention that if they want to run emacs, then they'll need an additional 8M over and above the rest :-). - darcy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: tblanch@lookout (Todd Blanchard) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Message-ID: <CoH850.63@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> Sender: news@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews) Organization: US WEST Information Technologies References: <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> <2o7d7v$itr@dockmaster.phantom.com> <2o9qtc$br9@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> <Co2roL.4yy@genesis.nred.ma.us> <rfenney-130494014225@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 22:36:35 GMT Robert J. Fenney (rfenney@netcom.com) wrote: : Besides NeXT does not and would not be marketing a competing computer. : Apple would be marketing the computer and NeXT would be marketing the OS : and DEVELOPMENT TOOLS! MPW is not current, MacApp is behind and BEDROCK has : been all but canceled APPLE had better come up with a solution or they will : be stomped by WINDOWS! There are a number of new developer tools on the Mac. Symantec's latest C++ environment comes with a revised TCL framework and Visual Architect, a GUI builder. There is also a new kid on the block. Metrowerks has a PPC native C++ compiler and IDE with a new application framework called PowerPlant. It is very cool. There is a developer tools war building and things are looking up. There are also now 3 smalltalks to choose from and new tools like Prograph CPX that have no analog in the Windoze market. My complaint is that NS priced their development system out of my reach. I can put a really nice PPC Mac development environment for less money and sell to more users. If NS is really serious, They have to drop the prices below $1k. Todd Blanchard
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the scoop on soundcards for NSI, ISA bus, Adaptek SCSI? Date: 18 Apr 1994 21:19:59 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2outhv$n3@cs.ubc.ca> I'm ready to hear something more than "feep" from my white NeXT :-) So: what kind of sound card should I get for an ISA bus machine with an Adaptek 1542CF (and bus mouse)? I know the PAS doesn't coexist with the 1542 on EISA machines, but does it work well at 44kHz play/record on an ISA machine with an Adaptek 1542CF? How about at 22kHz? Is a Microsoft Sound System-compatible card more reliable? Thanks, -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 750C? Date: 18 Apr 1994 21:04:08 GMT Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ousk8$7qu@Times.Stanford.EDU> Is anyone running NEXTSTEP on any of the IBM notebook computers, particuarly the Thinkpad 750C? Does anyone know if it is even possible? Thanks, -- Scott Roy Department of Computer Science Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Nextstep hardware requirements (long) Message-ID: <CoH4xz.2rx@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <2oturg$qt9@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:27:34 GMT In article <2oturg$qt9@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> or@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Oliver) writes: > Well, that depends on the machine you want to run NextStep on. Why? Well, RISC executables are somewhat bigger than CISC executables, but I don't think that makes the big difference. > Let's say, you take an Intel PC 486 or Pentium; just the System with > GUI will take around 250..300 MB disk space. No, it's not _just the system with GUI_, but a full install of everything on the user environment distribution and more. Just the system and GUI will take 185 MB _MAXIMUM_. See details below. All numbers are from my NS3.2 User CD for Motorola Hardware, but I don't think there are big differences to Intel. The size of the NS3.2 UserCD is 290 MB, but this contains: - A fully installed and bootable user environment of NS3.2 including Webster Dictionary, Thesaurus, Oxford Quotations 50 MB Literature (complete Shakespeare) 10 MB Online Documentation 16 MB - A folder containing compressed packages of Webster, TeX, SoftPC_Win, Languages, Demos etc. 109 MB ------ 185 MB If you install NeXTSTEP, you will end up with minimum: 105 MB for system and GUI 16 MB for online Documentation 16...64 MB for swap (depending on your taste, the swap file grows dynamically so you don't have to decide this at install time). That makes a total of 137...185 MB for running system and GUI. ------------ If you install all the goodies mentioned above, you can easily reach 185 MB (base system + 64 MB swap) 36 MB Webster, Thesaurus, Quotations (yes, it's not 50 MB because the installed version on the CD contains the compact dictionary _and_ the full dictionary. 36 MB is for the full dictionary) 12 MB TeX 26 MB SoftPC Win ------- 259 MB Some of the things are doubled on the CD - one version compressed and one installed, so you will use much less than the size of the CD for a full install. > But, the most interesting > thing for NextStep comes with the developer's package: The Interface Builder. > This will take some more MB, together >300. Don't forget some applications Developer Package is 100 MB installed as multi architecture for Motorola and Intel, including 31 MB of online Documentation (which can be left uninstalled and be used directly of the CD, if space is a problem. Same applies to the 'Goodies' as Webster, Quotations and Literature.) > and user data, finally u need 400 MB or more. Well, that's correct. More is better. As a rule of thumb, these are workable amounts: User only User+Developer 400 MB 600 MB > Let's talk about RAM... I never heard of a OS that needs more RAM than NS. No, really? The problem here is that with UNIX in general you can never have enough memory and you will always find a way to justify the need for more memory. On the other side - must things work even if you are low on memory, the machine gets slow - but _it works_. > To work with a minimal non-color display, 16 MB may be enough for SOME people. You get what you pay for. > Next recommends at least 24 MB for color display. If you want a high resolution > too, 32 MB are better. Now imagine you want to run Mathematica or some graphic > software; so a serious color Next system will have 48 MB or even 64 (just thing > of memory fragmentation...a server should not need to reboot too often, some > reboot once or twice a year.) Well, what does serious mean? It depends on what you want to do with it and what performance you expect. First of all, everything _works_ with 12 MB or even less. The less memory you have, the more you swap (and everything gets slooow). 16 MB is plenty for monochrome display and ok for 16 Bit color, even at 1152 x 868 Pixel. It works, it swaps, but you don't get too annoyed. 32 MB is good for 16 Bit color. More is always better. As for Mathematica. I work fine in Mathematica with my 20 MB and better on my machine at university with 28 MB. > Someone posted some time ago, he would upgrade his machine to 128 MB - but > who is able to pay THAT ? > You see, it always depends on your personal needs... -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EATA timeouts yet again - SERIOUS BUG? Date: 18 Apr 1994 10:35:56 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2otk9s$44t@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994Apr15.100149.17444@umiami.ir.miami.edu> <2opiq7$6kn@cerberus.wsc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit samurai@wsc.com (Darcy Brockbank) writes: >In article <1994Apr15.100149.17444@umiami.ir.miami.edu> >therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes: >> NeXT - ARE YOU LISTENING? - WE HAVE AN NSF SPONSORED COURSE USING THESE >> MACHINES - WE WOULD LIKE TO BUY MORE NEXTSTEP MACHINES AND MAKE THIS >> THE DOMINANT MACHINE STUDENTS SEE - NOT EASY TO JUSTIFY THIS WHEN >SERVERS >> CANNOT MADE TO BE STABLE! >> >I think NeXT's response to this kind of thing is "We're not a server >company". At least, that's what I've heard before. A bad excuse for the ignorance of not fixing a serious driver bug which can occur on any machine with a DPT 2xx2 controller, no matter if it is used as a server or as a standalone NS/I PC. -- .sig got a SIGKILL signal.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: rdf@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu (Robert Freeman) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Message-ID: <CoHAtL.9q1@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu> Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center References: <2o47bm$sa9@acme.gatech.edu> <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU> <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 23:34:33 GMT In article <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> conradtj@yvax.byu.edu writes: >In article <2o4e33$9k0@lace.Colorado.EDU>, wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce) writes: >> Amen. I'm curious how many net.folk would sign up to something saying >> "NeXT on PPC would make me amend my purchasing habits in a hurry!" >> >> I kind of suspect there would be many. >> >> count me in > >I would also be very interested in being able to choose NS for my Power >Macintosh, if for no other reason than having an alternative. > >Jon Conradt >CONRADTJ@YVAX.BYU.EDU > When Apple demo'ed the PowerMac on our campus in early March, I told the Apple Rep that I would give her an order for the 8100 immediately if she could assure me that NeXTSTEP would be available in a "reasonable time". She reported back - within a week - that "everyone she had talked with" thought NeXTSTEP on the PowerMac was a good idea, but that there are no current plans. Presumeably, she talked with Apple staff. I'd still like to go that route: P-Mac + NeXTSTEP. Robert D. Freeman / Chemistry / OK State U / Stillwater, OK 74074
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC petition Date: 18 Apr 1994 21:04:54 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2ovanm$dvt@acme.gatech.edu> References: <1994Apr9.092927.7202@yvax.byu.edu> <2o7d7v$itr@dockmaster.phantom.com> <2o9qtc$br9@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> <Co2roL.4yy@genesis.nred.ma.us> <rfenney-130494014225@rfenney.slip.netcom.com> <CoH850.63@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> tblanch@lookout (Todd Blanchard) writes: >My complaint is that NS priced their development system out of my reach. >I can put a really nice PPC Mac development environment for less money >and sell to more users. If NS is really serious, They have to drop the >prices below $1k. If you're just getting one copy, you can get the whole thing for $995 (user + developer). John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bob@anasazi.com (Bob Carroll) Subject: [intel] SoundBlaster Driver Message-ID: <1994Apr18.203523.14603@anasazi.com> Keywords: Intel, SoundBlaster, PAS-16 Sender: usenet@anasazi.com (Usenet News) Organization: Anasazi, Inc. Phoenix, Arizona USA Distribution: na Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:35:23 GMT Not knowing if the question makes sense and not having my machine installed yet: Has anyone tried the SoundBlaster_V2.01 driver with a PAS-16 card ? If so, does it eliminate any of the reported problems ? Thanks! -- bob@anasazi.com Robert Carroll Anasazi, Inc. 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120 Phoenix, Az 85020 USA
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cheap Intel box? Date: 19 Apr 1994 02:52:40 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ovh1o$cqh@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Howdy, I'm looking for a cheap headless & diskless box to run NS/FIP Here's what I'd be looking for 486DX2/66 (Maybe 100/DX4 || 586) 16 megs ram (upgradable to at least 64) VLB/PCI graphics card (I want resolution and speed to be similar to my mono 25MHZ station but in color of course) VLB/PCI SCSI card (Something that just works) Ethernet card (Something that just works) keyboard-mouse (Something that just works) Price < $2000 Anybody have any good possibilities? I've seen many systems like this with disks and monitors for ~$2000 in comp shopper, but have no clue whether they would work or not. Thanx, -- Paul (NeXTmail preferred) # Paul R. Tognato-Haddad ono 25MHZ station but in color of course) VLB/PCI SCSI card (Something that just works) Ethernet card (Something that just works) keyboard-mouse (Something that just works) Price < $2000 Anybody have any good possibilities? I've seen many systems like this with disks and monitors for ~$2000 in
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ZEOS pentium Pantera Date: 19 Apr 1994 03:45:39 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge Message-ID: <2ovk53$13j5@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> References: <2ou9he$lvn@panix.com> Keywords: Pentium NextStep I am very interested in the ZEOS Pantera as well. Any success stories are certainly welcome before I invest (well, borrow) $4k for a 90 Mhz Pentium box. Questions in mind: is the on-board Adaptec SCSI controller supported? The rep I talked to thinks so, but suggested I call NeXT to make sure. Now that the P9000 driver is out, that question goes away. Anything in particular I should look out for in terms of configuring the box? Many thanks! john ****** john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu -- - john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP on IBM Thinkpad 750C? Date: 19 Apr 1994 04:04:54 GMT Organization: MCNC -- Center for Communications -- CONCERT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ovl96$cvq@inxs.concert.net> References: <2ousk8$7qu@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2ousk8$7qu@Times.Stanford.EDU> hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy) writes: > Is anyone running NEXTSTEP on any of the IBM notebook computers, > particuarly the Thinkpad 750C? Does anyone know if it is even possible? > I believe there would be possibly only one problem (because I don't believe the 750C has the MCA bios (Micro Channel)) and that would be a mouse driver since the pointer between the h&j keys is not Microsoft or Logitech Compatible. Dave -- Paradigm Shift Corporation info@paradigm-shift.com A NeXT Object Channel Partner 919.682.8553 [Voice] Hardware, Software & Peripherals 919.682.1126 [Fax] ******** P.O. BOX 14565, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 ********
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: NeXT Dimension Question Message-ID: <CoHoty.KHy@ucdavis.edu> Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Distribution: world Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 04:37:10 GMT Got a dumb question fer y'all. I have recently picked up a cube with 2 030 boards. What will a NeXT Dimension board do for me? Is the ND Board for video processing only or will in do number crunching also? Preciate any hep on dis? Tanks David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Strange IDE hard disk problems NS/I 3.2 Date: 18 Apr 1994 17:21:41 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oufj5$1kv@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <2ot3do$edv@gamera.umd.edu> In article <2ot3do$edv@gamera.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes: > I "tried" ro install NeXTstep/Intel v3.2 on an IBM PS/1 "Expert" > system (486DX2-50 w/12MB of RAM). I used an Adaptec 1542C to connect > a Sun CDROM drive (Sony unit) to load the CDROM distribution. Our I think the problem is the SUN-CD-ROM. There are special versions of CD-ROMs for the SPARC-Environment which are not fully compatible to the rest of the world (because of this we own two :-() Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the current choice of modem and software? Date: 18 Apr 1994 17:27:47 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oufuj$1m0@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <Apr.7.19.44.26.1994.19829@atlantis.rutgers.edu> In article <Apr.7.19.44.26.1994.19829@atlantis.rutgers.edu> jin@atlantis.rutgers.edu (Gavin Gim) writes: > I've finally made up my mind to replace my old 2400 BPS modem. I'm > looking for modem/software that can do caller ID, answering machine, > fax receiving/sending, and of cause higher than 14.4 KBPS data rate. > I heard of NXFax some time ago. Is it capable of all the functions > I desire? I'm using black hardware running NS3.0. Also, which store offer > good price? Thanks. > > Gavin Try a Zyxel-modem and NXFax. It's very good. I've seen a answering-machine software somewhere on a ftp-site. Another very astonishing product is mix from i link, Berlin, Germany. They use the DSP on Black and a DSP-Card on white hardware and do everything in software ! The only problem: the transfer rate for data communication is a little slow. But fax and answering machine software is great (i.e control your NeXT with the small beeper from a normal answering machine remote via telephone)! Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: dwlawson@aol.com (DWLawson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep on Latest Gateway Machines Date: 18 Apr 1994 22:04:04 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2ove6k$esr@search01.news.aol.com> Hello: Sorry for yet another "Does Nextstep run on ...." posting but I have been unable to get information from the usual sources. Does Nextstep run on the new Gateway P5-66 and P5-90 machines? Thanks in advance, David Lawson severum systems dwlawson@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: frozen clock Message-ID: <jscogginCoHywF.FKr@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2o3b1aINN6gs@beech.theory.cs.yale.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 08:14:39 GMT beigel-richard@cs.yale.edu (Richard Beigel) sayz: > >My NeXTstation (color, nonturbo) crashed. When I tried to reboot from >the hard disk or from a floppy it didn't even start its self-test. >The hardware support people diagnosed the probable problem as a frozen >clock. They had me unplug the machine, remove the lithium battery for >an hour, replace the battery, and power on the machine. All of my >preferences had to be reset, but at least the machine runs again. > >What I am wondering is whether I can expect the "frozen clock" problem >to recur. My machine is still under warranty, for what that is worth. > >--- Richard If you want a guess. No, it probably won't happen again. I've had a similar thing happen on a Macintosh before, which after resetting the PRAM, everything was fine. But I don't think I would worry about it. It happens. Jerry // Proud owner of Black hardware
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Memory for Turbo Color: some question Message-ID: <jscogginCoI09z.HIH@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <Co02xt.1yz@galileo.pr.net.ch> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 08:44:23 GMT stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch sayz: > >Just some question about memory: > >1) About DRAM modules position in slots, will this configuration works: > slot#1 slot#2 slot#3 slot#4 > 8MB 8MB 16MB 16MB or need to move so: > 16MB 16MB 8MB 8MB I think so. The SIMM's are 72pin. But it won't hurt to try it. >2) About parity checking: the two modules (8MB + 8MB) I have received > with my station supports parity checking ? Is it _important_ ? The modules I received with my station didn't support parity. If I remember right, which I usually don't, all the SIMM's had to support parity to enable it. Is it important? Opinion here: Nope The government thinks so. >3) About DSP memory: where can I find a SRAM SIMM module to increase my > DSP memory from 24 to 96 Kbytes ? How can I ask my station about the > current amount of this memory ? NeXT was originally selling the DSP RAM upgrade. Maybe try NeXT Connection. I don't know how to check the amount. >Thank you for any info ! >Stefano Jerry jscoggin@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Disappearing disk Message-ID: <jscogginCoI10K.I29@netcom.com> Keywords: SCSI Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2oee0l$8de@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:00:19 GMT davidsen@umich.edu sayz: > >I have a 1GB SCSI disk attached to my NextStation turbo running on NS3.0. >The disk will mount at startup and will appear in the root directory for >all users and root for maybe four or five logins. After that it disappears >from the root directory and is inaccessible. What gives and, more >importantly, how do I fix this? Have you tried? fsck >-- >Susanna L. Davidsen davidsen@umich.edu >Network Services Librarian Voice: 313-936-2364 >209 HHGL North Fax: 313-764-0259 >The University of Michigan >Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1205 Jerry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dennis.Logemann@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Dennis Logemann) Subject: NSfIP on AMD? Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 09:54:19 GMT Message-ID: <1994Apr19.095603.8979@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Keywords: NEXTSTEP Intel AMD Sender: news@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE Hi! Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I read the FAQs about NS/I on processor- specs and I found "i486-based systems". Therefore I'm not really sure if I also may use a AMD 486/DX40-board... Yes, I also read about the 100%-compatibility Intel<->AMD, but I could sleep a bit better if I heard this from someone using NS on an "AMD486-based system" :) Thanx a lot, -- DeLo eMail to: Dennis.Logemann@Arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE remember: "Man needs escape as he needs deep sleep and good fun" (FGTH, ZTAS)
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <2otk9s$44t@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Control: cancel <2otk9s$44t@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: 19 Apr 1994 11:33:57 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <2p0fj5$hjr@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> cancel <2otk9s$44t@marsu.tynet.sub.org> in newsgroup comp.sys.next.hardware This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: ATI Ultra Pro and NS/FIP 3.2?? Message-ID: <1994Apr18.140603.2735@radical2.radical.com> Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:06:03 GMT I am thinking of purchasing a local bus ATI Ultra Pro 2 MB video card to use with NS/FIP 3.2. The Hardware Guide from NeXT Answers mentions a Rev 3 or Rev 6 version. How do I determine if the card at my local computer store is compatible with Nextstep? I would like to hear any comments about using this video card with NS/FIP from satisfied and dissatisfied users. Thanks. -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DOS and NS partition side by side? Date: 19 Apr 1994 12:34:15 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2p0j47$kga@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I have yet to see this addressed. If I have enough storage (two separate hard drives), can I run NS on one and DOS (or OS/2) on the other? Thanks. Randy jackson+@osu.edu
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOS and NS partition side by side? Date: 19 Apr 1994 09:16:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2p0lih$mn2@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2p0j47$kga@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2p0j47$kga@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Jackson) writes: >If I have enough storage (two separate hard drives), can I run NS on one and >DOS (or OS/2) on the other? Yes, although some small portion of NS must be on the first (boot) drive; see NeXTanswers # 1487 for details. Someone posted how to boot NS using OS/2's boot manager a month or two ago; I'm sorry, but I forget the name & e-mail address just now. Jeff Trestrail trestrail@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) Subject: Re: ZEOS pentium Pantera Message-ID: <dcodeCoIEor.M7C@netcom.com> Keywords: Pentium NextStep Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2ou9he$lvn@panix.com> <2ovk53$13j5@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 13:55:38 GMT In article <2ovk53$13j5@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>, John Woodward <john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu> wrote: >I am very interested in the ZEOS Pantera as well. Any success stories >are certainly welcome before I invest (well, borrow) $4k for a >90 Mhz Pentium box. > >Questions in mind: is the on-board Adaptec SCSI controller supported? > The rep I talked to thinks so, but suggested I call NeXT to make sure. > > Now that the P9000 driver is out, that question goes away. > >Anything in particular I should look out for in terms of configuring the box? > Can't speak about the Pantera in specific, but I'm running NeXTSTEP on a 486 DX2/66 ZEOS machine. I don't have the on board Adaptec SCSI chip ( (unless they changed the design, it *is* an Adaptec chip) rather I use an Adaptec 1542C board. Everything works fine. Originally I had the Diamond Viper VLB board but swapped it out in favor of an ATI GUP so that I could run NeXTSTEP. Now that shouldn't be a problem for you. There is a MAJOR problem installing 3.2 on my ZEOS and at least one other that I'm aware of. The 3.2 installation floppy is missing a driver in the Instance0.table of System.config. I can't remember exactly which one it is, I think it's the SerialMouse driver. Anyway, without that, my ZEOS wouldn't successfully boot from the floppy...therefore I couldn't successfully install NeXTSTEP. The workaround for me was to first install 3.1 (which *does* have the correct drivers for a ZEOS machine) and then *upgrade* to 3.2. Even still, after upgrading, I had to boot config=Default and change the Instance0.table file by hand so that the correct mouse drivers were being used. All in all it's not that big of a problem. The easiest thing would be to get a copy of the boot floppy that could succesfully boot a ZEOS machine for installing 3.2. I'd be happy to help you out with this as I'd like to have one myself. I'd also love to hear how it runs on the Pantera, if at all! HOpe this helps. Paul -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- dCode | dcode@netcom.com | NeXT Mail Happily Accepted Paul Marcos | (415) 960-3259 (voice & fax)|
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jumbo SCSI tape backup ? Date: 19 Apr 1994 15:43:04 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p0u68$iio@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Does there exist a SCSI jumbo tape backup that could be connected to a NeXT computer and read DOS jumbo tapes? Roland --------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Internet: roland@gomidas.mi.org Gomidas Solutions UUCP: uunet!gomidas!roland 1697 Broadway, Suite 104 Phone: +1 313 761 9590 Ann Arbor, MI 48105-1865 Fax: +1 313 761 9890 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cbarton@DaBoyz.dgcp.doc.ca (Casey Barton) Subject: NSFIP 3.2 modem - no parity, 8 bits? Message-ID: <1994Apr19.145755.27298@clark.dgim.doc.ca> Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News) Organization: Communications Canada Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 14:57:55 GMT I'm trying to setup up TransSys PNI Beta 1.7 on white hardware, as a server. I am currently fighting with the modem destined to answer the incoming calls. (C)SLIP wants to use 8 bit, no parity serial data, but my PC seems very determined to speak only 7 bit, even parity to the modem. I have the gettytab entries: .. default:\ :ap:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :p8:sp#9600: .. g|std.19200|19200-baud:\ :sp#19200: .. And a ttys entry: .. ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.19200" dialup on .. Then, if I use tip to talk to the modem, it tells me that it's talking in 7 bits, even parity. If I dial in, the modems exchange gibberish, as my client software supports only 8 bit, no parity. Shouldn't the :p8: have fixed this? What am I missing?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cbarton@DaBoyz.dgcp.doc.ca (Casey Barton) Subject: Re: NeXT has released the Viper PCI Driver (ftp.next.com) Message-ID: <1994Apr19.152121.28030@clark.dgim.doc.ca> Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News) Organization: Communications Canada References: <2otuhe$r7q@inxs.concert.net> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 15:21:21 GMT Paradigm Shift Corporation writes > It's out and it's on the net with SEVERAL improvements over the beta > that had been released. Great. Now where's my 1Q94^H^H^H^H2Q94 Tseng w32i driver? :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfloyd@lonestar.utsa.edu (Douglas R. Floyd) Subject: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Message-ID: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 17:47:15 GMT Is there a way to get a Macintosh to be able to print on a Next laser printer? The NeXT is a color cube, and both are connected over Ethernet. Please E-mail to save bandwidth. --- Douglas R. Floyd dfloyd@lonestar.utsa.edu dfloyd@runner.jpl.utsa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: TWO optical disk drives in a single cube ?? Message-ID: <CoHKA7.3z7@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1994Apr16.053045.412@kira.net.netcom.com> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 02:58:54 GMT In article <1994Apr16.053045.412@kira.net.netcom.com> netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) writes: #In article <Co9CrF.54E@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: #> yup, only one... #> #> peter #> #> Marc Guenther (yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de) wrote: #> : Hello, #> #> : does anybody know if its possible to put a second optical drive (one of #> : those original NeXT drives) into a Cube, and use both of them at once ? # #[munch] # #Um. The documentation that came with my drive (or my cube, I can't remember #at the moment) had explicit step by step instructions for installing two #drives. The faceplates on older cubes have two pop-out panels for discs. #Are all these just wishfull thinking on NeXT's part? It is/was possible to have two ODs in a cube. The original cube came with a cable with connectors for two ODs. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: Bad sector on disk: How do I recover? Message-ID: <CoHKCy.402@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1994Apr17.012232.27699@wuphys.wustl.edu> Distribution: na Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 03:00:34 GMT In article <1994Apr17.012232.27699@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: #When I reboot, fsck finds a bad sector that it can't bypass or repair. What #can I do with this sector so that fsck will once again give my disk a clean #bill of health? (How can I declare it "bad" once and for all, for example?) #This doesn't seem to be in any FAQ, so I guess it is not so frequently #asked. :-) # #Don Petcher # "reasb" will do it. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tape Drives, Low Cost? Date: 19 Apr 1994 22:03:05 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2p1kep$q2j@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Hi all, I know zip about PC's despite fact that I've been using one running NS for some months now. I just pretend it's a slab (it's an eCesys so that's not hard). Anyway, what is the *cheapest* tape drive setup out there for backup? It doesn't have to be fast, pretty, etc. just reliable and *cheap*. Thanks Robert de Lucca Johns Hopkins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Subject: Where does one shop for NeXT peripherals nowadays? (e.g. a UPS) Message-ID: <1994Apr19.233238.14851@wuphys.wustl.edu> Sender: usenet@wuphys.wustl.edu (USENET) Organization: Physics Dept, Washington U in St Louis Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 23:32:38 GMT After my "near disk death" experience, possibly caused by lightning, I would like to get an uninterruptible power supply for my NeXT. Where does one shop for these nowadays? Is there one still for sale that is NeXT-knowledgable, or should I go out and get a generic unit? Any suggestions? Thanks. Cheers, Don Petcher P.S. Thanks to those who pointed out the /usr/etc/reabs command for reallocating blocks. That one had escaped me.
From: jmoney@panix.com (John Money) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 19 Apr 1994 20:38:36 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> References: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Douglas R. Floyd (dfloyd@lonestar.utsa.edu) wrote: : Is there a way to get a Macintosh to be able to print on a Next laser : printer? The NeXT is a color cube, and both are connected over Ethernet. Same setup... same problem. Of course, I can FTP a postscript file over to the NeXT and then print it from there, but I assume you mean a *remote* solution. Haven't been able to find an NFS client for the Mac, but I hold out the hope than MachTen by Tenon Intersystems will solve the problem. Their number is (800) 6-MACH-10. : Please E-mail to save bandwidth. Actually, if someone *SOLVES* the problem, I'd like to hear about it. --- John Money y| \ de gustibus non y| _____ jmoney@panix.com | \___ est disputandum | / ___ ***************** | \_____ -or- | / / ceteris paribus, |________ There's no accounting |________ MIME mail pref'd x for indifference curves! x
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: DOS and NS partition side by side? Intel Message-ID: <1994Apr20.010850.8730@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <2p0j47$kga@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2p1sm3$gko@masala.cc.uh.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 01:08:50 GMT Unless you did something naughty in DOS (like wrote to the raw disk with Norton DISKEDIT or FDISK), I don't think it matters what version of DOS you have. Even 2.1 would probably work. I run DOS 6.2, and have never had a problem that I didn't cause myself. What is important is the type and format of the FAT filesystem. NEXTSTEP only finds Primary DOS partitions. I think it can deal with FAT12 format, and I'm sure it can deal with FAT16. If you intend on exchanging files between NEXTSTEP and DOS (via NEXTSTEP), you should limit your DOS partition to 32 meg or less. NEXTSTEP might trash it otherwise, due to a bug. NEXTSTEP can't find Extended partitions. There's some fine print about multiple Primary partitions on the same or different disks, but I don't remember, seek NeXTanswers. So, what I did was create a 32 meg Primary, a large Extended where I put all my real DOS stuff, and a large NEXTSTEP partition, all on the same disk. When I run NEXTSTEP, it finds the 32 meg DOS volume, which I have named "TRANSFER". That's all I do with it -- it has the basic DOS utilities, essential DOS drivers, and nothing else. The rest is just a holding area for exchanging large image files and such between worlds. I didn't understand what you meant by a "60 meg partition" for NEXTSTEP. I thought NEXTSTEP 3.2 wouldn't install in less than 120 meg? Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: rob@eats.com (Rob Newberry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 21:30:40 UNDEFINED Organization: Education and Technology Solutions Message-ID: <rob.112.01A753BE@eats.com> References: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> jmoney@panix.com (John Money) writes: >Path: news.clark.net!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!news.kei.com!MathWorks.Com!panix!not-for-mail >From: jmoney@panix.com (John Money)>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware >Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer >Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware >Date: 19 Apr 1994 20:38:36 -0400 >Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC >Lines: 21 >Message-ID: <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> >References: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> >NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com >X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] >Xref: news.clark.net comp.sys.mac.hardware:89459 comp.sys.next.hardware:10289 >Douglas R. Floyd (dfloyd@lonestar.utsa.edu) wrote: >: Is there a way to get a Macintosh to be able to print on a Next laser >: printer? The NeXT is a color cube, and both are connected over Ethernet. >Same setup... same problem. Of course, I can FTP a postscript file over to >the NeXT and then print it from there, but I assume you mean a *remote* >solution. Haven't been able to find an NFS client for the Mac, but I hold >out the hope than MachTen by Tenon Intersystems will solve the problem. >Their number is (800) 6-MACH-10. >: Please E-mail to save bandwidth. >Actually, if someone *SOLVES* the problem, I'd like to hear about it. >--- >John Money y| \ de gustibus non y| _____ >jmoney@panix.com | \___ est disputandum | / ___ >***************** | \_____ -or- | / / >ceteris paribus, |________ There's no accounting |________ >MIME mail pref'd x for indifference curves! x I'm quite sure there are no share/freeware NFS or LPD clients for Macs -- it appears that it's too damn difficult to implement (which suprises me for LPD, but not for NFS). Intercon, however, has two good clients -- NFS/Share and InterPrint. NFS share should let you mount your NeXT drive, and InterPrint will print to the NeXT printer as long as the NeXT is running an LP daemon. We use both here, though with Linux instead of NeXT. Rob
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (David Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOS and NS partition side by side? Intel Date: 20 Apr 1994 00:23:31 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2p1sm3$gko@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <2p0j47$kga@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I have a question about this DOS/NS thing, I've heard of rumors of DOS 6.X being "incompatible"?? with NS. Is this true? I have a 30 meg partition on my boot partition and a 60 meg drive set aside to run DOS/windows, but those file systems are now corrupt, and I was wondering if NS killed them. I know that NS and NT exist rather peacefully on the same disk (they have that setup on about 50 machines at school, doesn't seem to be any problem) so I was wonderinf if I should get a larger HD and put NS next to a NTFS partition. I mean I don't have the money to do it, so I'd rather just reinstall my DOS partition, but what then is the point if NS will just chew it right back up again? is there a FAQ that exist about how NS and DOS behaves sitting next to each other? I have heard that I may have to down grade to DOS 5.0 to get it working properly, is this true? Thanks for the help in advance
From: jgs@hadron.merit.edu (John G. Scudder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Date: 20 Apr 1994 01:45:45 GMT Organization: Merit Network, Ann Arbor, MI Message-ID: <2p21g9$r5a@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> In article <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com>, John Money <jmoney@panix.com> wrote: >Douglas R. Floyd (dfloyd@lonestar.utsa.edu) wrote: > >: Is there a way to get a Macintosh to be able to print on a Next laser >: printer? The NeXT is a color cube, and both are connected over Ethernet. > >Same setup... same problem. Of course, I can FTP a postscript file over to >the NeXT and then print it from there, but I assume you mean a *remote* >solution. Haven't been able to find an NFS client for the Mac, but I hold >out the hope than MachTen by Tenon Intersystems will solve the problem. >Their number is (800) 6-MACH-10. [...] You may want to look into CAP (Columbia). I haven't installed it myself, though I did look into it briefly. I know it'll let a UNIX box print to an Appletalk printer; I don't know if it'll do the inverse. Even if it won't, it will at least let you mount your NeXT's disk on your Mac (using AFP, not NFS) which will make it easier to get the PostScript file there. Good luck, --John Scudder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Message-ID: <1994Apr20.015537.14487@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 01:55:37 GMT In article <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> jmoney@panix.com (John Money) writes: >>Douglas R. Floyd (dfloyd@lonestar.utsa.edu) wrote: >> >>: Is there a way to get a Macintosh to be able to print on a Next laser >>: printer? The NeXT is a color cube, and both are connected over Ethernet. >> >>Same setup... same problem. Of course, I can FTP a postscript file over to >>the NeXT and then print it from there, but I assume you mean a *remote* >>solution. Haven't been able to find an NFS client for the Mac, but I hold >>out the hope than MachTen by Tenon Intersystems will solve the problem. >>Their number is (800) 6-MACH-10. >> I've been happily printing from my Centris 650 over ethernet to my NeXTStation Color's NeXTPrinter for months. I use InterPrint from InterCon (I think info@intercon.com will get you product info). They offer good edu discounts; I don't remember how much I paid, but it was less than $100. One thing; on the Mac side; give PrintMonitor more memory than it defaults to (I think 32K or some other ridiculous amt). Just do a cmd-i and change it. That was a problem when I reinstalled System 7.1 and then had problem printing to my NeXT; PrintMonitor didn't have enought memory... Hope that helps. IPT also has a product to do this, but I don't know much more than that. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: tkwoo@azure.dstc.edu.au (Tak Woo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DECpc XL with Intel CPU Date: 18 Apr 1994 00:34:41 GMT Organization: OrgFreeware Distribution: world Message-ID: <2oskj1$6ai@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Will NeXTSTEP work on DECpc XL with Intel CPU? tak
From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark Thomsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension Question Date: 20 Apr 1994 01:03:39 GMT Organization: TRW Systems Development Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p1v1b$s3n@deneva.sdd.trw.com> References: <CoHoty.KHy@ucdavis.edu> David Bradford writes > I have recently picked up a cube with 2 030 boards. What will > a NeXT Dimension board do for me? > > Is the ND Board for video processing only or will in do number > crunching also? The ND is a plug in graphics card. Gives you 24-bit color (with the cable and monitor, of course) with good performance provided you have a suitable memory (read: large) configuration on the CPU and ND boards. The video is pretty much control, screen display, and frame capture stuff - no real processing. You cannot access the ND for doing your own thing, to the best of my knowledge (if you can, that is something discovered and not widely communicated). That i860 is tempting, but it is just for the NEXTSTEP window server and graphics (partial split onto ND). Mark R. Thomsen Gemstone Systems, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sngmedia@world.std.com Subject: MARKET SURVEY Message-ID: <CoJID2.n4y@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 04:12:37 GMT We are a small, dedicated group of people desperately trying to get a video production company off the ground. Recently, we secured enough financial backing to produce several videos on the subject of personal computing. Because we don't have the financial resources to perform a traditional market analysis, we considered several alternatives and concluded that we should consult the people of the Internet, who are technically proficient and tend to be enthusiastic personal computer users. We would like you to indicate which three of the below described videos would appeal to you most. Please note that each video synopsis is numbered. 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From: shimpei@leland.Stanford.EDU (Shimpei Yamashita) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Date: 20 Apr 1994 05:04:11 GMT Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Message-ID: <2p2d4b$g58@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> In article <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com>, John Money <jmoney@panix.com> wrote: :Douglas R. Floyd (dfloyd@lonestar.utsa.edu) wrote: : :: Is there a way to get a Macintosh to be able to print on a Next laser :: printer? The NeXT is a color cube, and both are connected over Ethernet. : :Same setup... same problem. Of course, I can FTP a postscript file over to :the NeXT and then print it from there, but I assume you mean a *remote* :solution. Haven't been able to find an NFS client for the Mac, but I hold :out the hope than MachTen by Tenon Intersystems will solve the problem. :Their number is (800) 6-MACH-10. : :: Please E-mail to save bandwidth. : :Actually, if someone *SOLVES* the problem, I'd like to hear about it. : :--- :John Money y| \ de gustibus non y| _____ :jmoney@panix.com | \___ est disputandum | / ___ :***************** | \_____ -or- | / / :ceteris paribus, |________ There's no accounting |________ :MIME mail pref'd x for indifference curves! x At Stanford, most of the dorm clusters have Macs happily printing to printers attached to NeXTs. I don't know what the NeXT setup is, but the Mac side does not seem to have anything except a hacked version of the LaserWriter driver. The most prominent feature of the hack is that it asks for username and password, so that they can subtract printing money from our accounts. This arrangement means that we don't have to deal with PrintMonitor and its glacial printing speed. On the other hand, our NeXT is crash-prone, so the print queue gets stuck sometimes....:-( So, I don't know exactly how they do it, but they do it. -- Shimpei Yamashita, Stanford University email:shimpei@leland.stanford.edu I hate it when people flaunt their big .sig files. Don't you?
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can format Quantum PD1800S Mac but not NeXT -- Why? Date: 18 Apr 1994 17:16:51 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2oufa3$gh4@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CoDDu3.1Gy@infoserv.com> In article <CoDDu3.1Gy@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes: > What other type of drive is in the system? > > The problem you are having is the other drive/s in the system > are resetting or grabbing the bus and it interferes with writes to > this drive. > > I have had this problem before with a Micropolis drive. Actually > I just got rid of a Micropolis because it was screwing up my Maxtor. Kent -- The very first thing I tried was booting from the floppy and NextStep 3.2 CD with only the CD ROM drive and the Quantum PD1800S hard drive on the SCSI bus. There were no other hard drives on the machine, and I still could not format the Quantum. -- Todd
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where does one shop for NeXT peripherals nowadays? (e.g. a UPS) Date: 20 Apr 1994 01:36:07 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2p20u7$c9n@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Apr19.233238.14851@wuphys.wustl.edu> petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) writes: >After my "near disk death" experience, possibly caused by lightning, I would >like to get an uninterruptible power supply for my NeXT. Where does one shop >for these nowadays? Is there one still for sale that is NeXT-knowledgable, >or should I go out and get a generic unit? Any suggestions? Thanks. I use an American Power Conversion Back-UPS 600. You can use any UPS you want, unless you wanted fancy features like unattended shut-down and scheduled automatic tests. I've only heard of one software package that supports smart UPS features under NEXTSTEP, and of course, it only supports a few brands of UPS, of which APC is one. The product is PowerGuardian by BenaTong, benatong@cypher.cmhnet.org, (614) 276-7859. I haven't used it. Anyway, according to some digging I did, APC seems like a reputable company, so I went with them. You can probably find APC sold locally if you live in any sort of major center. Otherwise, buy an issue of Computer Shopper and look for one. Royce Howland dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM valuepoint install Message-ID: <chuck.766785646@mu> From: chuck@law.utah.edu (Charles Perkins) Date: 19 Apr 94 20:00:46 GMT Keywords: Help! Summary: It doesn't recognize the hard drive I am trying to install NextSTEP 3.1 (academic developer's version) on a PS/Valuepoint 450DX2/D with a 200 meg hard drive and 8 meg ram. This is supposed to be a plain ISA/Localbus machine. That's what they tell me. I am using an adaptec 1452c, and I have turned the onboard floppy off. The hard drive appears to be an IDE. It is connected to the motherboard. The boot process reads the floppy, recognizes the CD-ROM, boots the kernel, (not necessarily in that order) and even allows me to choose the language to install with. It then tells me that this is an install, not an upgrade. THEN it says that it needs 120 meg to install, and it can't find any drives with enough free space. It then leaves me with a prompt asking which drive to install to. I know the geometry of the drive; I have a program called edpart that tells me. I know that Linux requires some extra information to boot some IBM systems, I wonder if NextSTEP needs this extra information too. But I don't know how to tell it to the install program. Any help is greatly appreciated. Charles Perkins chuck@mu.law.utah.edu
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syquest 105 removeable (black) What Up? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 01:53:55 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <RA1NLYr.jhepp@delphi.com> Doing graphics and music on NeXTstationColor and I thought the new 105 removeable SCSI drive was great because of it's speed. But even after doing every variation, the drive slowly (10-20 minutes) disappears from the desktop. When I reboot, NS says disk is damaged. I repair, login and before long it's gone again. Any thoughts? I've rounded up the usual suspects for several days without luck. I even found a source for black drives, Focus Enhancements. Now if only it would work. Jeff.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: adb-interrupt keystrokes? Message-ID: <1994Apr20.082558.25583@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 08:25:58 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) Organization: Institut fuer Informatik Could some nice person tell me how to generate the interrupt on a NeXT adb keyboard. I have received one machine (against my will) and have absolutely no manuals and the FAQ has no hints. -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOS and NS partition side by side? Intel Date: 20 Apr 1994 12:21:34 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2p36oe$31j@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2p0j47$kga@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2p1sm3$gko@masala.cc.uh.edu> <1994Apr20.010850.8730@adobe.com> Perry A. Caro (caro@adobe.com) wrote: : What is important is the type and format of the FAT filesystem. : NEXTSTEP only finds Primary DOS partitions. I think it can deal with : FAT12 format, and I'm sure it can deal with FAT16. If you intend on : exchanging files between NEXTSTEP and DOS (via NEXTSTEP), you should : limit your DOS partition to 32 meg or less. NEXTSTEP might trash it : otherwise, due to a bug. NeXT told me that limit is 64megs. When I have files in my DOS partition of 100 megs, and they are physically past the 64meg mark, if I try to copy them into the NeXT partition, they get corrupted. As long as I speeddisk (norton) and make sure they are not past the 64 meg mark, then everthing is ok. : NEXTSTEP can't find Extended partitions. true, but I have used 2 IDE drives and NeXTSTEP/Intel did mount both, although the 64meg rule still applied. Also, try not to delete files in the DOS partition from NeXTSTEP, I get lost clusters/chains sometimes. STiMPY -- stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us
From: andym@hq.af.mil (Andy McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IBM valuepoint install Date: 20 Apr 1994 12:51:03 GMT Organization: 7th Communications Group, Wash D.C. Message-ID: <2p38fn$fv4@hq.hq.af.mil> In comp.sys.next.hardware article <chuck.766785646@mu> wrote: > I am trying to install NextSTEP 3.1 (academic developer's version) > on a PS/Valuepoint 450DX2/D with a 200 meg hard drive and 8 meg ram. > > I am using an adaptec 1452c, and I have turned the onboard floppy off. > The hard drive appears to be an IDE. It is connected to the motherboard. > Any help is greatly appreciated. .. > > Charles Perkins > chuck@mu.law.utah.edu With the PS/ValuePoint, you cannot use ANY IDE drives. There's a NeXTAnswers document that says this. I tried, but couldn't get it to work. As soon as I removed the IDE drive that came with the machine, I could install and run NS 3.2 wonderfully. I guess 3.1 has the same problems. Also, you will likely have problems with the video. You will need to get the updated 3.1 driver from NeXTAnswers, and install it. The driver is made for 3.1, and I couldn't get it towork under 3.2. Sounds like you might not have enough RAM to run color or enhanced resolution, though. I thought the minimum was 16Mb. -- Lt Andy McConnell Communications Engineer andym@hq.af.mil 7th Communications Group, USAF, Pentagon (Opinions expressed are solely those of the author and not the USAF)
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [nsi] NCR SCSI performance ?? Date: 20 Apr 1994 14:17:03 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2p3dgv$9u4@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Since there are some people in this group that are running the beta version of the NCR-SCSI driver for NSI, how is the performance compared to an usual AHA-1542 ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) Subject: [all] architecture in Subject line... Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CoKn1x.5Dz@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 18:51:33 GMT References: <2oq9pn$e5i@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Subject: [intel] SoundBlaster Driver Great !!! The first one did it !!! Now, why cant YOU do it, too ?? -- Marc Guenther ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrum fuer Informations | Wagmuellerstr. 23 | Phone: +49 89 211 0670 und Sprachverarbeitung | 80538 M"unchen | Fax: +49 89 211 0674 University of Munich | Germany | yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOS and NS partition side by side? Intel Date: 20 Apr 1994 16:49:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2p3mf0$2a3@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2p0j47$kga@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2p1sm3$gko@masala.cc.uh.edu> <1994Apr20.010850.8730@adobe.com> In article <1994Apr20.010850.8730@adobe.com>, Perry A. Caro <caro@mv.us.adobe.com> wrote: >Unless you did something naughty in DOS (like wrote to the raw disk with >Norton DISKEDIT or FDISK), I don't think it matters what version of DOS >you have. Even 2.1 would probably work. I run DOS 6.2, and have >never had a problem that I didn't cause myself. > >What is important is the type and format of the FAT filesystem. >NEXTSTEP only finds Primary DOS partitions. I think it can deal with >FAT12 format, and I'm sure it can deal with FAT16. If you intend on >exchanging files between NEXTSTEP and DOS (via NEXTSTEP), you should >limit your DOS partition to 32 meg or less. NEXTSTEP might trash it >otherwise, due to a bug. > Yes, there definitely is a bug with the way NEXTSTEP accesses mounted DOS partitions. I found that if you never run any programs in DOS to optimize/ defragment your disk, it's pretty stable. It is certainly not a good solution, and NeXT _NEEDS_ to fix this bug soon. This becomes a real problem when you try to run SoftPC and access all your DOS software from within NEXTSTEP. You will mysteriously lose data on your DOS partition. In order for SoftPC to be a viable solution, this has to be fixed. Varun
From: croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOS and NS partition side by side? Intel Date: 20 Apr 1994 16:42:06 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2p3m0u$m2c@cs.ubc.ca> References: <1994Apr20.010850.8730@adobe.com> In article <1994Apr20.010850.8730@adobe.com> caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) writes: > Unless you did something naughty in DOS (like wrote to the raw disk with > Norton DISKEDIT or FDISK), I don't think it matters what version of DOS > you have. There is a bug with MS-DOS 6.2 fdisk, though; if you use it to change the active partition, it will turf the NEXTSTEP boot manager. (See 1470_Tech_Support_Frequently_Asked_Questions on NeXTanswers.) You also may have to actually create your DOS 6.2 partition with the DOS 6.2 fdisk program, not NEXTSTEP's. You should use the NEXTSTEP fdisk program to change active partitions. To reinstall the NEXTSTEP boot manager: 1) Boot from the NEXTSTEP floppy, and type sd(0)mach_kernel rootdev=sd0a (boot from first SCSI device) This should start up NEXTSTEP as usual. If you have an IDE drive, you'll have to make the appropriate changes (substitute hd for sd?) 2) As root, type disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a Again, substitute hd for sd if your disk is IDE. -- Chris Roehrig (croehrig@celegans.psych.ubc.ca) Invertebrate Learning Group, University of British Columbia, Canada
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Mach 32 Date: 20 Apr 1994 16:14:04 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2p3kcc$kra@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> I have a friend who is installing NS-fip on a generic Pentium/PCI system. His video card is an ATI Mach 32 PCI -- he has been unable to make it work at anything higher than normal VGA. I seem to remember reading something a while back about a change which needed to be made to the driver in order to make this card work.... Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks. -jamey.
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: UUCP and high speed connections: HELP! Date: 20 Apr 1994 16:51:00 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA Message-ID: <2p3mhk$t7v@newsflash.mitre.org> References: <2ouf13$e4v@newsflash.mitre.org> In article <2ouf13$e4v@newsflash.mitre.org>, William Herndon <wherndon@smiley.mitre.org> wrote: > > Anybody got an ideas? Does v.32bis imply a compression? Is there a > way to verify the current speed of /dev/cufb while a UUCP connection is > enabled? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks much. > Many thanks to all the kind souls who suggested Taylor UUCP. I got a copy, installed it, and am now blazing along at over 1700 bytes/sec. - Max | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | | NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | | | | "Necessity is the mother of strange bedfellows." |
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSFIP 3.2 modem - no parity, 8 bits? Date: 20 Apr 1994 12:38:06 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Sender: root@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <199404201637.MAA18375@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994Apr19.145755.27298@clark.dgim.doc.ca> In article <1994Apr19.145755.27298@clark.dgim.doc.ca> you write: > I'm trying to setup up TransSys PNI Beta 1.7 on white hardware, as a >server. I am currently fighting with the modem destined to answer the >incoming calls. (C)SLIP wants to use 8 bit, no parity serial data, but my >PC seems very determined to speak only 7 bit, even parity to the modem. > > I have the gettytab entries: >.. >default:\ > :ap:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :p8:sp#9600: >.. >g|std.19200|19200-baud:\ > :sp#19200: >.. > > And a ttys entry: >.. >ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty std.19200" dialup on >.. > > Then, if I use tip to talk to the modem, it tells me that it's talking >in 7 bits, even parity. If I dial in, the modems exchange gibberish, as my >client software supports only 8 bit, no parity. Shouldn't the :p8: have >fixed this? What am I missing? I was having _very_ similar problems as you describe. I finally did get it to work. First, I am using NXFax 1.04, so I did not have to create an entry in ttys, but I was getting the same sort of problems. The solution, as suggested by Craig at Black&White Software, was to put an ap!:p8 entry for the default entry. This may or may not work for you. We also found that using tcsh on white hardware switches you to even parity on your modem connection. Switching back to csh solved the problem for tip and kermit logins. Varun
From: kevin@bigtree.com (Kevin D. Baranski-Walker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Date: 20 Apr 1994 19:12:05 GMT Organization: InterNex Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2p3uq5$srk@gaia.internex.net> References: <rob.112.01A753BE@eats.com> In article <rob.112.01A753BE@eats.com> rob@eats.com (Rob Newberry) writes: > I'm quite sure there are no share/freeware NFS or LPD clients for Macs -- it > appears that it's too damn difficult to implement (which suprises me for LPD, > but not for NFS). Intercon, however, has two good clients -- NFS/Share and > InterPrint. NFS share should let you mount your NeXT drive, and InterPrint > will print to the NeXT printer as long as the NeXT is running an LP daemon. > We use both here, though with Linux instead of NeXT. > > Rob > There is lpDaemon/LPR a freeware package for the Macintosh. I use lpDaemon routinely to print from the NeXT's to the LocalTalk connected PS printers via a selected Mac. Works great. LPR, which I have NOT used, claims to perform precisely the opposite, to submit Mac print 'jobs' to the UNIX printer. Getting an 'acceptable' PS from the Mac is another issue; various levels of success are all too common. Here is the Readme from lpDaemon/LPR: ------> lpDaemon and LPR ---------------- lpDaemon is a utility that implements the Berkeley Line Printer Protocols on the Macintosh. It normally spools postscript files sent from a unix host and sends them to a LaserWriter on the Mac network. It may be used to print any files to an AppleTalk printer or a Serial printer. LPR is an lpDaemon client that submits jobs to a printer queue. Typically a text file is to a unix print queue. If the file is of type TEXT the end of lines are converted to unix style end of lines before sending, otherwise files are sent as is and marked with the 'literal' flag. lpDaemon and LPR run under system 7 and require MacTCP. What's new in this release -------------------------- 0) Several bug fixes. 1) lpDaemon no longer looks for a file called "LaserWriter" in folder called "Extensions". The name of the LaserWriter driver is specified in the config file, and must be located in the extensions folder (whatever it is called) 2) Added a NOACTION flag to the config for debugging. This allows files to be spooled but not printed or deleted. 3) Added a NOMAIL flag to the config to disable the mailing of errors and log files. 4) Added a NOACNT flag to the config to disable the accounting on postscript printers. 5) Allows defining the prefix string for control files (normally cfA) 6) Now does not put up status dialogs when running in the background. 7) Added a status dialog to display what is happening when reading the config file. 8) Improved backgrounding when resolving network names. Setting Up lpDaemon ------------------- lpDaemon looks for a folder called "Spool Folder" in your system folder and a text file call LPD.config in the "Spool Folder" folder. A sample LPD.config file is included in this package. The sample contains information about setting up for your installation. What to do on the Unix Box -------------------------- The unix machine needs to be told about the printer. This is done by adding an entry to the printcap file. The following shows such an entry : pslaser|PostScript LaserWriter:\ :rp=pslaser:lp=:\ :rm=server-mac:sd=/usr/spool/maclpd:\ :lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs: to print to this printer you use the command : lpr -Ppslaser <filename> The rm entry tells lpd which machine the printer is conected to, in our case where lpDaemon is running. The rp entry tells lpd which of the printers connected to this rp to print on. This name will be passed on to lpDaemon which will map the name to a printer as specified in the config file. If your LPD.config file on the macintosh has an entry : PRINTER pslaser PAP "" POSTSCRIPT # default the print command above would print to your default printer. What's in the LogFile --------------------- The log file keeps a record of everything printed through the spooler as well as all errors. This file can be cleared by using the "Clear Log File" entry under the "File" menu. If you are experiencing problems you may want to turn debugging on by adding a DEBUG command to the config file. This causes extra debugging information to be sent to the log file. The log file may be cleared using the "Clear Log File" entry in the file menu. When this is done the contents are first mailed to the ADMIN specified in the config file. What if I Send a non-PostScript file to a PostScript printer ------------------------------------------------------------ lpDaemon checks the first 2 characters in the file looking for %! which it would assume to be in all postscript file. If these two characters are not there lpDaemon will reject the file and mail the owner. ------> - kevin -- _______________________________________________________________ Kevin D. Baranski-Walker | Internet: kevin@bigtree.com Sequoia Technology Research | AOL: KDWalker Redwood City, California | AppleLink: Kevin.Walker ---------------------> NeXTSTEP Inside <-----------------------
From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone Tried the New Dot Matrix Drivers on an InkJet Date: 20 Apr 1994 12:29:36 -0700 Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego Message-ID: <2p3vr0$5bl@chiton.ucsd.edu> References: <1994Apr7.224037.23312@sol.UVic.CA> In article <1994Apr7.224037.23312@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) writes: >Has anyone tried the new dot matrix drivers (on Inkjets with >dot matrix emulations). I'm curious about how well a document >with graphics included would come out. Is there any documentation lying around that explains the use of the things to be found in .../NextPrinter/Drivers/NXDotMtxDriver. Or is this just another Adventure game? carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu clowenstein@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: devil@eel.micro.umn.edu (Alexander Kim) Subject: Next Workstation for sale Message-ID: <CoKMAK.3B0@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota CIS Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 18:37:48 GMT Next workstation with Monochrome monitor with 8 MB RAM, 107MB HD with OS, and Next Laserprinter. Currently asking $1400 for the whole thing. If interested please respond and make me an offer. devil@eel.micro.umn.edu
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about that Alpha port? Date: 20 Apr 1994 20:47:46 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Distribution: na Message-ID: <2p44di$bdk@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> M68K is 32 bit SPARC is 32 bit PA RISC is (as far as I know basically) 32 bit PowerPC is 32 bit is NeXTStep 64-bit-safe ? I believe, Nick is right. They're too busy with HP and Sun. rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de -------------------------- "Saw the 90 MHz Pentium? Just imagine it - with Windows 3.11 and a good graphics card? That's a real shocker, isn't it?" ... a line I heard from a fellow. He didn't know how right he was ...
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060 introduced?) Date: 20 Apr 1994 20:52:08 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2p44lo$bhi@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <2oua8l$bo8@cerberus.wsc.com> Darcy Brockbank writes > > > 68040 68060 > > >Mips 40 100 > Hey, when did my NeXTstation go from 15 MIPS, to 40? Just think, > I got a performance upgrade without even knowing it. > > Even if that rating is for the 40MHz 040, then it would have > to be less than 2x25MHz, which would be 30 MIPS. Maybe > they have a supercool compiler in-house. Probably they used the same system to measure as Sun with its 50Mhz MicroSparc ... remember that "59 MIPS!" ...... ;^) --------------------------- rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060 introduced?) Date: 20 Apr 1994 20:52:26 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <2p44ma$bhj@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <2oua8l$bo8@cerberus.wsc.com> Darcy Brockbank writes > > > 68040 68060 > > >Mips 40 100 > Hey, when did my NeXTstation go from 15 MIPS, to 40? Just think, > I got a performance upgrade without even knowing it. > > Even if that rating is for the 40MHz 040, then it would have > to be less than 2x25MHz, which would be 30 MIPS. Maybe > they have a supercool compiler in-house. Probably they used the same system to measure as Sun with its 50Mhz MicroSparc ... remember that "59 MIPS!" ...... ;^) --------------------------- rainer@wmax60.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Where can I buy an optical drive for 3" 128Mb for NeXT computers ? Date: 20 Apr 1994 21:47:48 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2p47u4$beb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Hi fellows, Im searching to buy two optical drives for 3" 128Mb optical floppies for NeXT computers. Where should I buy that ? At what price ? Best regards, - Eric -- Opinion expressed is my own ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric_t@ks.uiuc.edu University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: alec@carie.dental.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: New SCSI Driver For PCI Date: 20 Apr 1994 22:53:15 GMT Organization: Marquette University - Dept. Math, Statistics, & Comp. Sci. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p4bor$sto@spool.mu.edu> Hello Guys, Info: Kris Magnusson is now taking orders for the Talus PCI SCSI Driver which works with the DEC PCXL series of machines and any other which uses the NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI controller. Using this driver will give you *UNBELIEVABLE* I/O performance (considering that NS doesn't support synchronous SCSI). Alpine Computing is at 800-748-8188. -- Alec Ellsworth alec@carie.dental.mu.edu Marquette University ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu School of Dentistry 414-288-6500 (page) 604 N. 16th St. 414-288-3680 (voice,fax,or data) Milwaukee, WI 53233 "...dental floss for the brain...for prevention of Trooth decay..." -Rush Limbaugh
From: wtang0@.stern.nyu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: dat tape drive Message-ID: <62511@sales.STERN.NYU.EDU> Date: 21 Apr 94 00:06:50 GMT Sender: wtang0@sales.STERN.NYU.EDU Organization: NYU Stern School of Business hi, does anyone know anything about dat tape drive? I need to know if i could use dat drives for macs on my next station? do i need software to run it? could i play music on this drive? do i need a special cable or adapter to hook it to my next? any help will be much appreciated. email: wtang0@.stern.nyu.edu anthony
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does the NEC triple speed CD Rom (3xi) work on the NeXT Date: 21 Apr 1994 01:38:35 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2p4ler$2ea@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994Apr17.082337.18830@rafa.in-berlin.de> In article <1994Apr17.082337.18830@rafa.in-berlin.de>, Ralf Neumann <ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de> wrote: >Hello, > >I want to buy a CD ROM. >There are two which are interesting: > >The Toshiba XM 3401B >or the new NEC 3xi > >I know that the Toshiba works perfect with the NeXT for Data, Sound and >XA-CDs. No no! The Toshiba drive does _not_ work for either audio CDs or for Photo CD on my Intel hardware. These are bugs that NeXT already knows about, but apparently they feel it is not worth fixing. As with everything else that has problems in NEXTSTEP, the Toshiba drive works fine in DOS/Windows. ** GRIPE ON ** It pisses me off no end the number of irritating bugs in NEXTSTEP that could so easily be fixed which aren't. NeXT needs to make the operating system more reliable. It crashes far too often and has to do way too many fscks for our comfort. (This is on a DEC XL pentium system) ** GRIPE OFF ** Varun PS - If anybody at NeXT is reading this, could someone please place a FAT version of DarkForest on the archive sites?
From: kohut1@urz.unibas.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AHA-274x Driver Availability ? Message-ID: <1994Apr21.005953.43712@urz.unibas.ch> Date: 21 Apr 94 00:59:53 MET Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland Hy ! Does somebody know when the driver for Adaptec 274x-Series will be available ? Or is there some Beta-driver somewhere ? Thanks ... -Peter- E-Mail : kohut1@urz.unibas.ch
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT has released the Viper PCI Driver (ftp.next.com) Date: 20 Apr 1994 09:55:28 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p2u6g$11t@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2otuhe$r7q@inxs.concert.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paradigm Shift Corporation writes > It's out and it's on the net with SEVERAL improvements over the beta that had > been released. Sounds very nice! Can anyone run NXBench on it? Just to get a first impression? -- sig got a SIGKILL signal.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the scoop on soundcards for NSI, ISA bus, Adaptek SCSI? Date: 20 Apr 1994 09:59:02 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2p2ud6$11u@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2outhv$n3@cs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Roehrig writes > > I know the PAS doesn't coexist with the 1542 on EISA machines, but > does it work well at 44kHz play/record on an ISA machine with an Adaptek > 1542CF? How about at 22kHz? Wrong. The 1542 + PAS combination works well on EISA machines, but not on ISA machines. Furthermore, it does not depend on the 1542, my PAS locked up the system with the DPT 2021, too. Since I moved to an EISA/VL board, all problems disappeared. > Is a Microsoft Sound System-compatible card more reliable? This should answer someone who runs the MSS on an ISA machine. Regards, Markus. -- sig got a SIGKILL signal.
From: dgc@ccrwest.org (David G. Cantor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next Monitor Date: 20 Apr 1994 17:06:48 -0700 Organization: IDA Center for Communications Research Message-ID: <2p4g2o$59j@ccrwest.ccrwest.org> Summary: How flexible is a NeXT Monitor Keywords: Monitor I have a 17" color NeXT Monitor purchased with a NeXT Dimension Board. Will this monitor work on an Intel based system? If so, what kinds of color boards are required? What I want to do is purchase a 21" monitor to use with my NeXT Dimension Board and use the existing monitor on an Intel based system which I am about to purchase, if this is possible. dgc David G. Cantor Center for Communications Research 4320 Westerra Court San Diego, CA 92121 dgc@ccrwest.org
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experience with Quantum 1.8GB Empire HD wanted .. Date: 20 Apr 1994 10:18:48 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2p2vi8$d3j@danmeasure.dannug.dk> References: <1994Apr12.070920.3203@kurt.in-berlin.de> Keywords: You are looking for trouble In article <1994Apr12.070920.3203@kurt.in-berlin.de> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: > Hi, > > Does anybody out there has made some experiences with a Quantum 1.8GB Empire > harddisc with black hardware? 1024/512 Blocks, format problems, etc. are > welcome. > > Thanx > > Gerald > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > | GERALD ERDMANN > | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) > | voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin) > | crypt: pgp2 puplic key available We have had problems in the formating process, but had it fixed by downloading some older firmware. It took a long time to find out and moneywise it took quite a bit too. Besides that our main server ( turbo color slab ) has been acting strangely with hangups in the workspace manager after we installed a 1225 Quantum with downloaded older firmware that was supposed to fix the problem. We have now changed over to Micropolis 2217 1.7 GB and no more problems! Quantum has been informed in Germany, but somewhat they do not officially acknowledge the problem, at least not in USA, perhaps because NeXT black hardware is becoming a dead frog. PD1800S as well as 1225 though, works ok on Intel NEXTSTEP v.3.2, at least in DEC MTE and XL machines ( Bus Logic 747s EISA for MTE - BT 542 ISA for XL) Good luck sw@dannug.dk Soren Wang Denmark -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($EN(&%R=&EC;&4@ M/#$Y.31!<'(Q,BXP-S`Y,C`N,S(P,T!K=7)T+FEN+6)E<FQI;BYD93X@9V5R M86QD0&MU<G0N:6XM8F5R;&EN+F1E("A'97)A;&0@17)D;6%N;BD@=W)I=&5S M.EP*/B!(:2Q<"CX@7`H^($1O97,@86YY8F]D>2!O=70@=&AE<F4@:&%S(&UA M9&4@<V]M92!E>'!E<FEE;F-E<R!W:71H(&$@475A;G1U;2`Q+CA'0B!%;7!I M<F4@(%P*/B!H87)D9&ES8R!W:71H(&)L86-K(&AA<F1W87)E/R`Q,#(T+S4Q M,B!";&]C:W,L(&9O<FUA="!P<F]B;&5M<RP@971C+B!A<F4@(%P*/B!W96QC M;VUE+EP*/B!<"CX@5&AA;GA<"CX@7`H^($=E<F%L9%P*/B!<"CX@("`@+2TM M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2U<"CX@("!\("!'15)!3$0@15)$34%.3EP*/B`@('P@ M("`@(&5M86EL.B`@9V5R86QD($`@:W5R="YI;BUB97)L:6XN9&4@("`H3F58 M5&UA:6P@=V5L8V]M92E<"CX@("!\("`@("!V;VEC93H@("LT.2`S,"`@,S<R M(#0S(#$P("`@("`@("`@("`@*$=E<FUA;GD@+2!"97)L:6XI7`H^("`@?"`@ M("`@8W)Y<'0Z("!P9W`R('!U<&QI8R!K97D@879A:6QA8FQE7`I<"E=E(&AA M=F4@:&%D('!R;V)L96US(&EN('1H92!F;W)M871I;F<@<')O8V5S<RP@8G5T M(&AA9"!I="!F:7AE9"!B>2!D;W=N;&]A9&EN9R!S;VUE(&]L9&5R(&9I<FUW M87)E+B!)="!T;V]K(&$@;&]N9R!T:6UE('1O(&9I;F0@;W5T(&%N9"!M;VYE M>7=I<V4@:70@=&]O:R!Q=6ET92!A(&)I="!T;V\N7`I<"D)E<VED97,@=&AA M="!O=7(@;6%I;B!S97)V97(@*"!T=7)B;R!C;VQO<B!S;&%B("D@:&%S(&)E M96X@86-T:6YG('-T<F%N9V5L>5P*=VET:"!H86YG=7!S(&EN('1H92!W;W)K M<W!A8V4@;6%N86=E<B!A9G1E<B!W92!I;G-T86QL960@82`Q,C(U(%%U86YT M=6T@=VET:%P*9&]W;FQO861E9"!O;&1E<B!F:7)M=V%R92!T:&%T('=A<R!S M=7!P;W-E9"!T;R!F:7@@=&AE('!R;V)L96TN7`I<"E=E(&AA=F4@;F]W(&-H M86YG960@;W9E<B!T;R!-:6-R;W!O;&ES(#(R,3<@("`Q+C<@1T(@86YD(&YO M(&UO<F4@<')O8FQE;7,A7`I1=6%N='5M(&AA<R!B965N(&EN9F]R;65D(&EN M($=E<FUA;GDL(&)U="!S;VUE=VAA="!T:&5Y(&1O(&YO="!O9F9I8VEA;&QY M(&%C:VYO=VQE9&=E('1H92!P<F]B;&5M+"!A="!L96%S="!N;W0@:6X@55-! M+"!P97)H87!S(&)E8V%U<V4@3F585"!B;&%C:R!H87)D=V%R92!I<R!B96-O M;6EN9R!A(&1E860@9G)O9RY<"EP*4$0Q.#`P4R!A<R!W96QL(&%S(#$R,C4@ M=&AO=6=H+"!W;W)K<R!O:R!O;B!);G1E;"!.15A44U1%4"!V+C,N,BP@870@ M;&5A<W0@:6X@1$5#($U412!A;F0@6$P@;6%C:&EN97,@*"!"=7,@3&]G:6,@ M-S0W<R!%25-!(&9O<B!-5$4@+2!"5"`U-#(@25-!(&9O<B!83"E<"EP*1V]O M9"!L=6-K7`I<"G-W0&1A;FYU9RYD:PD)4V]R96X@5V%N9PE$96YM87)K"GT* `
From: sw@dannug.dk (soren wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with BusLogic 747S (EISA) Date: 20 Apr 1994 10:22:33 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2p2vp9$d3t@danmeasure.dannug.dk> References: <PFP.94Apr18093321@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> In article <PFP.94Apr18093321@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) writes: > I've got problems with a BT 747S EISA. > > The revision level is 3.7/4.7, and I've got Quantum HD's and TECMART > streamer. > > This combination works great with BSDI (BSD/386) and NeXTSTEP is > running very good with the same combination and an AHA 1542b instead > of BusLogic. > > I've got the new drivers (1520,1521) from NextAnswers, but this > doesn't help :-{. > > peter > Downgrade thi bios to 3.30 - 3.31 / 4.50 - 4.51 and you will be up running in no time. sw@dannug.dk Soren Wang Denmark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: 64 bits, who needs them ? In-Reply-To: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de's message of 20 Apr 1994 20:47:46 GMT To: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr20224453@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <2p44di$bdk@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:44:53 GMT In article <2p44di$bdk@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes: M68K is 32 bit SPARC is 32 bit PA RISC is (as far as I know basically) 32 bit PowerPC is 32 bit is NeXTStep 64-bit-safe ? I believe, Nick is right. They're too busy with HP and Sun. Now please don't all go all gaga over 64 bit CPUs. 64 bit CPUs do offer advantages, but they are less than what you may believe: -- 64 bit address space. Doubtlessly it will be needed some day and you can play nice OS games if address space is arbitrarily cheap, but at the current prices of DRAM and OS designs, this will offer virtually no advantages for the users of even the most powerful workstations. Or when did you last see a NeXT with more than 4 gigabytes of RAM ? The one exception to this are dynamically typed languages (like Lisp or Scheme). If you have to subtract a couple of tag bits 32 bits start being a real limit today. -- 64 bit integers. Roughly speaking a 64 bit CPU can handle a 64 bit integer operation at the same speed which a comparable 32 bit CPU can handle the same 32 bit integer operation. It can not do a 32 bit integer operation at twice the speed. Now as it so happens for virtually all current purposes 32 bits are more than sufficient, so 64 bit integers buy you nothing (at the price of using twice as much storage). -- 64 bit buses. Now that is a real advantage as it allows you to load cache lines twice as fast as with a 32 bit bus. However, nothing prevents you from efficiently using from using a 64 (or even 128) bit bus with a 32 bit CPU and OS as e.g. current Pentium systems demonstrate. Don't misunderstand me. 64 bit CPUs will come and that is a good thing for in time they will be needed. However if you are buying a workstation class machine today (and don't primarily want to use it as a Lisp machine), don't give the question of whether the CPU is 32 or 64 bit a second thought. I promise you, your machine will be obsolete before that becomes an important question. Carl Edman
From: kenny@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Kenny Leung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: midi stuff Date: 21 Apr 1994 05:54:43 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2p54f3$mhh@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Hi All. Can a guy still get Pinnacle Sequence, and a midi box to got with it for a NeXT cube? --- Kenny Leung System Administrator University of Alberta Hospital Neurology 403-492-8648 Phone 403-480-3650 Pager (Preferred) 403-433-0427 Fax kenny@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca ------------------------------------------------------- "It wouldn't be Windows without windows within windows"
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (David Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64 bits, who needs them ? Date: 21 Apr 1994 06:05:59 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: na Message-ID: <2p5547$kkc@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <CEDMAN.94Apr20224453@capitalist.princeton.edu> In a desperate bid for attention Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) blabbed: You Said>In article <2p44di$bdk@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes: You Said> M68K is 32 bit You Said> SPARC is 32 bit You Said> PA RISC is (as far as I know basically) 32 bit You Said> PowerPC is 32 bit You Said> You Said> is NeXTStep 64-bit-safe ? You Said> You Said> I believe, Nick is right. They're too busy with HP and Sun. You Said>Now please don't all go all gaga over 64 bit CPUs. 64 bit CPUs do You Said>offer advantages, but they are less than what you may believe: You Said>-- 64 bit address space. Doubtlessly it will be needed some day and You Said> you can play nice OS games if address space is arbitrarily cheap, You Said> but at the current prices of DRAM and OS designs, this will offer You Said> virtually no advantages for the users of even the most powerful You Said> workstations. Or when did you last see a NeXT with more than 4 You Said> gigabytes of RAM ? The one exception to this are dynamically typed You Said> languages (like Lisp or Scheme). If you have to subtract a couple You Said> of tag bits 32 bits start being a real limit today. You Said>-- 64 bit integers. Roughly speaking a 64 bit CPU can handle a 64 bit You Said> integer operation at the same speed which a comparable 32 bit CPU You Said> can handle the same 32 bit integer operation. It can not do a 32 You Said> bit integer operation at twice the speed. Now as it so happens for You Said> virtually all current purposes 32 bits are more than sufficient, so You Said> 64 bit integers buy you nothing (at the price of using twice as You Said> much storage). You Said>-- 64 bit buses. Now that is a real advantage as it allows you to You Said> load cache lines twice as fast as with a 32 bit bus. However, You Said> nothing prevents you from efficiently using from using a 64 (or You Said> even 128) bit bus with a 32 bit CPU and OS as e.g. current Pentium You Said> systems demonstrate. You Said>Don't misunderstand me. 64 bit CPUs will come and that is a good You Said>thing for in time they will be needed. However if you are buying a You Said>workstation class machine today (and don't primarily want to use it as You Said>a Lisp machine), don't give the question of whether the CPU is 32 or You Said>64 bit a second thought. I promise you, your machine will be obsolete You Said>before that becomes an important question. You Said> Carl Edman Au contrair, some 64 bit CPU's can execute 2 32 bit interger operations in parallel. though your OS and Apps will have to rewritten to take advantage of this, it does offer significant advantages. but I do agree that for now 64 bit CPU's aren't as useful or run the same apps at twice the speed of a 32 biut CPU, but it's like that stupid movie... "If you build it, they will use it." I'm sure we can find some creative things that we can do with 64 buit CPu's, but what I really want to know is that if NS can be rewritten on a newer version of mach, so that you can get multiprocessing support for free. THat woudl be awesome. D.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.next.hardware From: halkoD@moravian.edu (David Halko) Subject: Re: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060 introduced?) Message-ID: <1994Apr21.004139.10781@batman.moravian.edu> Followup-To: halkoD@moravian.edu Summary: 68060 performance References: <2ohv2f$a3k@zikzak.apana.org.au> <2on076$942@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 00:41:39 EDT In article <2on076$942@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, icardena@dcl-nxt12 (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: > Given the information below any person with the hardware knowledge > care to speculate on the chances of an '060 upgrade for an '040 NeXTCube? > Just curious... > -Ian > > worley@el.wpafb.af.mil (Rick Worley) writes: > > >EETimes, 4 April 94, has an article about 68060 > > >2x-4x integer speed of 68040 > >3x floating point speed of 68040 > >Superscalar (2 integer units) > >dual four-stage pipelines in integer unit. > >256 entry instruction branch cache > >four-way set-associative caches > >0.5um, 3.3 V process > >doubles the clock rate of 040 while maintaining a 25 MHz 040 compatible bus. > >The 060 is application software, socket, and local bus compatible with 040. > > > 68040 68060 > >Mips 40 100 > >Mflops 3.5 13 > >Data Bus 32 32 > >Clock(MHz) 25,33,40 50,66 > >Instr cache 4kB 8kB > >Data cache 4kB 8kB > Are the performance characteristics indicative of the low level processor at MHz in both examples? Dave Halko -- _________________________________________________________________________ / "The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, \ / be regarded as a criminal offence." E.W.Dijkstra, 18th June 1975. \ +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ \ halkoD@moravian.edu "dogs" crawl under "gates", software under "windows"/ \_________________________________________________________________________/
From: pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] PC motherboards that work with NSFIP Date: 21 Apr 1994 07:52:06 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p5bb6$ec@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Keywords: intel Howdy, I'm looking for a PC motherboard that works with NS. Here's some of my choices. AIR 486DX2-66 (8 EISA, 3 VLB ) TYAN 486DX2-66 (8 EISA, 2 VLB) VEGA 486DX2-66 (4 PCI, 5 ISA, 3 VLB) These are just some examples that I picked out of Computer Shopper, I've called around but all the companies I've talked to have no idea whether any of these work. So you have had success with any of these motherboards or any other (EISA/VLB/PCI) motherboards please mail me or post. See ya, -- Paul (NeXTmail preferred) # Paul R. Tognato-Haddad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Does the NEC triple speed CD Rom (3xi) work on the NeXT Message-ID: <CoLqE7.G0@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2p4ler$2ea@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:01:19 GMT In article <2p4ler$2ea@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: > >I know that the Toshiba works perfect with the NeXT for Data, Sound and > >XA-CDs. > > No no! The Toshiba drive does _not_ work for either audio CDs or for > Photo CD on my Intel hardware. These are bugs that NeXT already knows > about, but apparently they feel it is not worth fixing. As with everything Ralf definitly was right, the Toshiba 3401 (and probably also the cheaper 4101, we test it soon) works, the only thing you need is the programm XAmode which one of our programmers wrote. The problem is not with NS but with different modes of the drives ( have you noted that DOS needs a special driver for each drive?). XAmode is available from a lot of FTP sites or from tms! Hope this helps Hans
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: New SCSI Driver For PCI Message-ID: <CoLqGD.Gr@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2p4bor$sto@spool.mu.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:02:37 GMT In article <2p4bor$sto@spool.mu.edu> alec@carie.dental.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth) writes: > Using this driver will give you *UNBELIEVABLE* I/O performance (considering > that NS doesn't support synchronous SCSI). WHAT are this values?? PLEASE give Driveperformance numbers! Ciao Hans
From: tvansant@ceramics.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Van Sant) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Suggested sources for a 1 Gb drive for a Nextcube? Date: 21 Apr 1994 12:52:46 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- InterNetNews site Message-ID: <2p5suu$fqc@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking to replace a 1 Gb drive on my Nextcube. Any good (or bad) sources (to avoid)? Thanks, Tim Van Sant tvansant@ceramics.gsfc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Workgroup Printers Message-ID: <1994Apr21.085253.17138@msuvx2.memst.edu> From: harris.jim@coe.memst.edu (Jim Harris) Date: 21 Apr 94 08:52:52 -0500 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[4422] Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. I'm researching buying workgroup printers for our Mac lab. The two that stand out are the HP LJ 4Si MX and the Apple LaserWriter Pro 810. I can find out a fair amount about the HP, but little about the Pro 810. If anyone is using this machine and would like to make a testimonial for it I would appreciate you taking the time. I'm wanting to find out especially about the toner cartridges and how expensive it is to run on a day to day basis. Also, how well does it work in a mixed environment of PCs and Macs? I have a lab of 30 Macs on LocalTalk and when a whole class tries to print at the end of the period the two old LaserWriter NTs just choke. Is this a function of the printers or LocalTalk? Would 1 or 2 20 ppm printers handle the load with LocalTalk, or is switching to Ethernet the only way to handle the load. Thanks Jim Harris (harris.jim@coe.memst.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: valet@azur.enet.dec.com () Subject: Re: DECpc XL with Intel CPU Message-ID: <1994Apr21.141414.23577@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> Sender: usenet@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com (USENET News System) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation References: <2oskj1$6ai@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:14:14 GMT It works on XL, I've been using NSFIP on XL for months... Francois
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: btf64@cas.org (Bernard T. French) Subject: Re: Suggested sources for a 1 Gb drive for a Nextcube? Message-ID: <1994Apr21.151437.2334@chemabs.uucp> Sender: usenet@chemabs.uucp Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio References: <2p5suu$fqc@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:14:37 GMT I asked such a question not too long ago, and here are the responses I recieved. Many more people, than are listed here suggested to contact Larry Cohen of Peripheral Solutions. Good advice. I bought a Micropolis 2215/17? a 1.7Gb drive (external) from Larry that was plug and play. If I recall the 800-ALL-DISK number is no longer valid, but it gives you the new number to contact. -- Bernie +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | REWARD: Lost .sig, last seen in comp.sys.* or bionet.*, answers to | | the name btf64@cas.org | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> In article <2p5suu$fqc@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov> tvansant@ceramics.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Van Sant) writes: >I'm looking to replace a 1 Gb drive on my Nextcube. Any good (or bad) >sources (to avoid)? > >Thanks, > >Tim Van Sant >tvansant@ceramics.gsfc.nasa.gov In comp.sys.next.hardware article <1994Jan26.130354.27473@chemabs.uucp> you wrote: > I'm looking for recommendations for an external hardisk in the 600MB-1.2GB > range for my Mono NeXTstation (25MHz). I'm looking for a device that cost > around $1000.00 or less. Give Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions a call (800-ALL-DISK) and ask him for his latest recommendations. He has a NeXT test bench and offers very competitive prices and good service. I bought a DEC drive from him about 6 months ago in a nice NeXT-black external enclosure and it was purely plug-and-play. -- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just purchased the Micropolis 2217/15. It's a 3.5 inch, 5400 RPM, 10ms, 1.7 gig drive (formatted). It cost $1100 from SAG Electronics. It is tiny, VERY quiet, and seems quite fast. I am very pleased with it. - db --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I've just purchased a Micropolis 2117 (? not sure of the exact model #), which formats to 1050MB, 10ms access time, with 5 year warranty, for a grand total of $1019.50 (including drive, case, cable, shipping, the whole works.) This drive is also available in an "a/v" version that does TCAL (thermal recalibration) very well, which is crucial for people doing real-time video/audio reproduction. It got an honorable mention from Byte's September '93 disk drive comparison. Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | 1. You can't fly. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 2. Cars are always real. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. --------------------------------------------+ 4. Fire burns. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- hi, I haven't purchased one myself yet, but I have been pouring over Computer Shopper looking for "DEALS". Here's my top picks. Micropolis 1050 mb model mc2210s aroun $839 $.79/MB 5 year warranty SCSI-II Insight (1 year return to insight, + 4 to manufacter) 10ms 3.5inch 800 998 8031 Micropolis 1750 mb model 2217S $1099 $.62/MB (otherwise same as above) Caveats 1) I don't know if these are formatted capacity 2) I dont know if you can reformat these to 1024bytes/block 3) These are bare drives. I have seen some adds for drives around .9-1 Gig for $649, but only 6 month warranty from what appears to be low end vendor If you dig up anything interesting, would you share it with me? tnx, -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Late addition miropolis 2210 $ 699 1050mb 2217 999 1700mb UMB 800 722 7703. I have not spoken to this last vendor, so I dont know what warranties/return policies exist on these. Jerry -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I've just purchased a Micropolis 2117 (? not sure of the exact model #), which formats to 1050MB, 10ms access time, with 5 year warranty, for a grand total of $1019.50 (including drive, case, cable, shipping, the whole works.) This drive is also available in an "a/v" version that does TCAL (thermal recalibration) very well, which is crucial for people doing real-time video/audio reproduction. It got an honorable mention from Byte's September '93 disk drive comparison. Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems --------------------------------------------+ AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | 1. You can't fly. Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 2. Cars are always real. NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends. --------------------------------------------+ 4. Fire burns. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I recently got a Toshiba MK537FB, 1.06G formatted, 12ms avg access, 3.5" form factor, installed internaly with no problems into my NeXTStation Color from: K&L Computers 3810 Brittan Glade Trail Lithonia, GA 30058 404-922-6772 voice 404-929-1433 fax Keith R. Watson Systems Administrator S.C./Auxiliary Enterprises Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332-0453 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!kw3 Internet: keith.watson@stucen.gatech.edu Phone: 404-894-2523 GIST: 222-2523 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I recently got a Toshiba MK537FB, 1.06G formatted, 12ms avg access, 3.5" form factor, installed internaly with no problems into my NeXTStation Color from: K&L Computers 3810 Brittan Glade Trail Lithonia, GA 30058 404-922-6772 voice 404-929-1433 fax P.S. I realized right after I sent the first message that you were looking for an external drive. I have found that externals cost from $60 to $100 more than internals. Ask Kevin at K&L if it comes in an external version or if he can get a case. There are several companies that sell just the case and power supply. Let me know if you need info on them. Keith R. Watson Systems Administrator S.C./Auxiliary Enterprises Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332-0453 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!kw3 Internet: keith.watson@stucen.gatech.edu Phone: 404-894-2523 GIST: 222-2523 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In article <IhFiMLq00iV3A9d11X@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Try Larry at Peripheral Solutions 408/425-8280. > P.S. used to have a toll-free number, so you might try 800-ALL-DISK first to see whether it still works (unless you own stock in your local long-distance company :-) > (I have no relation to this company other than being a customer.) Me, neither. --- Art Isbell Cubic Solutions NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154 USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- You probably have gotten a lot of responses already, but I'll throw my 2 cents in. I recently bought a Fujitsu 1.2 Gbyte from MegaHaus. Fujitsu has a five year warranty (I wouldn't buy one that didn't), but MegaHaus offers a one year replacement in addition. There are other equally priced companies, but I have had luck with them. (The real test was when I had to return something once under their 30 day no questions asked return policy.) ANyways, I paid $895, but prices are coming down daily. Stay away from the Toshiba for sure. They're trash. People like the Maxtors, Fujitsus and Seagates. The new Decs are supposed to be screamers. These are all 3.5 inch drives. Good Luck! -Patrick Lampani ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sorry to be of "negative" help, but I can perhaps steer you clear of a lot of headaches and frustration: avoid Toshiba at all costs. They have very low priced drives, but you are getting what you pay for. I could go on for pages about how bad their (three!) broken hard drives are, how bad their service is (7 weeks!) and how poor their knowledge of their own products is. Don't go Toshiba. Ever. Good luck, however, with your search! -- John Todd | Need Job: Can sell NeXTs/cars, fix same| NRA & Pro-Choice 430 Dundee Drive | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo Blue Bell PA 19422| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused 215/646-5883 | USGS coord: 40d08m02s Lat 75d15m28s Lon | jtod@digex.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just bought and installed a fujitsu drive (sorry don't have the model number) from 1-800-572-4305 DC Direct Connections. It is a 1.2g drive (formats to 1033meg) and is very fast 8.6ms seek for $851 + shipping. They were VERY easy to deal with and the disk worked with NO problems of any kind. I highly reccomend them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 1-800-572-4305 DC Direct Connections. I just bought a 3.5inch Fujitsu > drive 8.6ms 1.2g (1033meg formatted). installed with only a 3.5 to 5 1/4 > adapter kit in my cube. $851+shipping. Great deal. I have no affiliation > with this company but they were great help. We have a Fujitsu 680 Mb (formatted) drive on our NeXT cube (25 MHz, 68040). I agree that it is fast, but I would caution you that is it also very noisy. Perhaps they've solved this problem; our drive was installed about 18 months ago. Just thought I'd warn you, "cheap" comes at a price! -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | REWARD: Lost .sig, last seen in comp.sys.* or bionet.*, answers to | | the name btf64@cas.org | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank) Subject: Re: Dell #9GXE PCI Message-ID: <1994Apr19.181251.1794@sat.mot.com> Sender: usenet@sat.mot.com (Usenet Accoun) Organization: Motorola Inc. - Satellite Communications References: <Co4uLL.Au3@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:12:51 GMT Tim: I've been able to get it to work on a Dell Dimension XPS 466v. I didn't do anything special. - Mark p25231@email.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jtr@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Reinhart) Subject: Re: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060 introduced?) Message-ID: <CoMABz.J3I@oakhill.sps.mot.com> Organization: Motorola SPS, Austin, TX References: <2ohv2f$a3k@zikzak.apana.org.au> <worley.1116786357A@desire.wright.edu> <2on076$942@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:11:59 GMT In article <2on076$942@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> icardena@dcl-nxt12 (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: > Given the information below any person with the hardware knowledge >care to speculate on the chances of an '060 upgrade for an '040 NeXTCube? >Just curious... > -Ian > >worley@el.wpafb.af.mil (Rick Worley) writes: > It's technically very straight-forward and we know of at least one company (not officially announced) working on such a product. -- Regards, Jim Reinhart Motorola Microprocessor & Memory Technologies Group Austin, Texas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: Does the NEC triple speed CD Rom (3xi) work on the NeXT Message-ID: <CoM9Ew.1Gy@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2p4ler$2ea@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:52:05 GMT In article <2p4ler$2ea@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: > In article <1994Apr17.082337.18830@rafa.in-berlin.de>, > Ralf Neumann <ralf@rafa.in-berlin.de> wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I want to buy a CD ROM. > >There are two which are interesting: > > > >The Toshiba XM 3401B > >or the new NEC 3xi > > > >I know that the Toshiba works perfect with the NeXT for Data, Sound and > >XA-CDs. > > No no! The Toshiba drive does _not_ work for either audio CDs or for > Photo CD on my Intel hardware. These are bugs that NeXT already knows > about, but apparently they feel it is not worth fixing. As with everything > else that has problems in NEXTSTEP, the Toshiba drive works fine in DOS/Windows. > > ** GRIPE ON ** > > It pisses me off no end the number of irritating bugs in NEXTSTEP that could > so easily be fixed which aren't. NeXT needs to make the operating system > more reliable. It crashes far too often and has to do way too many fscks > for our comfort. (This is on a DEC XL pentium system) > > ** GRIPE OFF ** > > > Varun > > PS - If anybody at NeXT is reading this, could someone please place a FAT > version of DarkForest on the archive sites? Since quite a while there is a small program called XAmode arround, that enables you to use photo cds with a toshiba cdrom on both intel and motorola. An I will soon submit a CDPlayer app that also works on both machines with a toshiba cd rom. Gerd
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase (Seed)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: New SCSI Driver For PCI Date: 21 Apr 1994 17:35:33 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p6dh5INNhef@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <2p4bor$sto@spool.mu.edu> In article <2p4bor$sto@spool.mu.edu>, alec@carie.dental.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth) writes: |> Hello Guys, |> |> Info: Kris Magnusson is now taking orders for the Talus PCI SCSI Driver... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ $ How Much??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ae827@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mike Daly) Subject: SEAGATE internal disk configuration? Message-ID: <CoMEr5.KwE@freenet.carleton.ca> Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 17:47:29 GMT I am trying to replace the internal disk in my nextstation and can't seem to find the correct configuration. The original disk was a st1480N and I am trying to replace it with a st3655N 550 MB disk. The disk is set for SCSI ID 1 and for passive termination. When trying to boot off the CD ROM I get a SCSI error - buss hung. Please help! Please post as my mail is down. Mike Daly --
From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (David_Jepson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with BusLogic 747S (EISA) Date: 21 Apr 1994 20:03:20 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <2p6m68$5k3@transfer.stratus.com> References: <PFP.94Apr18093321@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> In article <PFP.94Apr18093321@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) writes: > I've got problems with a BT 747S EISA. > > The revision level is 3.7/4.7, and I've got Quantum HD's and TECMART > streamer. [stuff deleted] > I've got the new drivers (1520,1521) from NextAnswers, but this > doesn't help :-{. Read the NextAnswers for the 747S - it states that revision level 3.31/4.5 is required. Buslogic made some changes for Netware compatibility which broke NS/FIP compatibility. You need the "older" revision eeproms. -David Jepson- Stratus Computer Inc.
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Do not buy a Quantum PD1800s for use with NextStep Date: 21 Apr 1994 19:56:50 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p6lq2$a1r@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> For those looking for a 1.7 GB SCSI drive to use under NextStep, I advise you not to buy a Quantum PD1800s. I (Todd Takken), Mike Reiss and Dave Lacey all recently bought Quantum PD1800s'es for our Next computers and were unable to get the drives formatted. We called both Quantum and NeXT several times, and tried low level formatting the drive. Nothing worked. The tech support people at Quantum were wholly ignorant, and thought that no drives over 1 GB would work with NextStep. They weren't help much at all. The folks at NeXT were more helpful and gave us information on how to do a low level format and build our own disktab entry. We still couldn't get the drive formatted. Another fellow from Denmark, Soren Wang, advised us that the new Quantum prom was incompatible and that he had been able to get a Quantum PD1800s to work, albeit with bugs, by getting some older prom from Quantum. This was more than I, Mike or Dave wanted to attempt, and we bailed out. I now have a Micropolis 1.7 GB drive, and it worked the first time out of the box. All I did was set the SCSI id jumpers, plug the drive in, reboot and click the initialize button once I logged in. In summary: I advise you not to buy a Quantum PD1800s hard drive for use with NextStep. It is at the very least difficult, and is probably impossible to get the Quantum PD1800s formatted under NextStep. I advise you to buy a Micropolis 1,75 GB drive. It works flawlessly. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu NextStep 3.2 on black hardware
From: Mark G. Tacchi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Strange IDE hard disk problems NS/I 3.2 Date: 21 Apr 1994 19:53:24 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p6ljk$eej@rosie.next.com> References: <2oufj5$1kv@balu.ixpoint.de> In article <2oufj5$1kv@balu.ixpoint.de> gguelden@ixpoint.de writes: > In article <2ot3do$edv@gamera.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. > Santangelo) writes: > > I "tried" ro install NeXTstep/Intel v3.2 on an IBM PS/1 "Expert" > > system (486DX2-50 w/12MB of RAM). I used an Adaptec 1542C to connect > > a Sun CDROM drive (Sony unit) to load the CDROM distribution. Our > > I think the problem is the SUN-CD-ROM. There are special versions of > CD-ROMs for the SPARC-Environment which are not fully compatible to the > rest of the world (because of this we own two :-() > Yes, the CD-ROM drives that have problems are the Sony CDU 8012 Rev 3.1a. I've installed on the 345MB Maxtor IDE drives before and I haven't had any problems. Just be sure that the drive has been formatted (NEXTSTEP won't do this for you) and that the drive is entered in your setup utility. -- Mark G. Tacchi System Support Engineer NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: kernel panic exception (6,3,1), NS/I on GW2K P5-66 Date: 21 Apr 1994 21:00:40 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2p6pho$6ac@Times.Stanford.EDU> I finally got my system completely assembled, configured, partitioned, and loaded with NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. Yeah! Mostly it seems to work great, except... Very occasionally (once every 5-7 boots roughly), I get a kernel panic which crashes the boot process and I have to reboot, which usually works. When it does boot correctly, most everything seems to work fine. Does anyone have any clue what's going on? More importantly, is this really bad, or just a minor booting hassle? I've got a matter of days to decide whether to ship the Gatewauy back before my 30 day money-back period is up. Should I be worried? The exact text I see when booting wih diagnostic messages is the following: ----- <after registering various devices> rootdev 600, howto 0 panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mount root: cannot mount root panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root (rcbuilder): mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 kernel panic exception (6,3,1) Waiting for remote debugger connection. (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) ----- My exact configuration: Gateway 2000 P5-66 Best Buy, Pentium 66MHz, Intel 2 PCI / 3 ISA / 1 interleaved motherboard, 32MB RAM Seagate ST11200N 1GB SCSI HD Adaptec 1542CF ISA SCSI controller NEC 3xi internal triple-speed SCSI CD-ROM (model CDR-510) Miro Crystal 32S 4MB PCI video card Intel EtherExpress16 ISA network card MS Windows Sound System ISA sound card running NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. SCSI setup: physical layout: Adaptec 1542CF connected to HD by one SCSI cable with a SCSI connector in the middle of the cable connected to the CD-ROM drive. There's about 11 1/2 - 11 3/4 " of cable between the CD-ROM and the HD, and about twice that between the CD-ROM and the controller. logical settings: SCSI ID terminated Adaptec 1542CF 7 yes (IRQ: 11, DMA channel: 6) Seagate ST11200N 0 yes NEC 3xi 1 no All the SCSI setup settings on the Adaptec card are identical to the NextAnswers document on it (memory address, etc.). I can't seem to find any pattern of when the panic happens and when it doesn't. It has happenend and not happened on soft reboots, hardware reset button reboots, and power-up boots in seemingly all possible contexts. I had decided to gamble and see if NS/I worked on a computer significantly cheaper than any of the equivalent officially supported systems, and it seems to run great on this Gateway. (A friend of mine who owns a great NeXTStation color turbo says my system feels great to him.) I had hoped that buying only completely known compatible and robust peripherals would insure that compatibility was a very all-or-nothing issue: if I could get it to install correctly, it would work, otherwise it wouldn't work at all. (I figured it would mostly depend on the only unsupported factor--the motherboard.) I think it is very strange that booting from power-up gives non-deterministic behavior. Any help much appreciated. -Karl P.S. I intend to post a long summary of configuration info, general information about buying an Intel computer to run NEXTSTEP, advice, impressions, thanx, etc. as soon as I'm sure I'm keeping the system. Until then, I can provide specific information on request. I'd like this to become a "listed system" in NextAnswers because I think it is a great system.
From: arman@futon.SFSU.EDU (Arman Khalili) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diamond Viper VLB DID NOT WORK Date: 21 Apr 1994 21:07:35 GMT Organization: San Francisco State University Message-ID: <2p6pun$7d8@news.csus.edu> I tried everything but I couldn't get the new Diamond Viper VLB 2 VRAM to work. the screen simply blanked out the moment NeXTSTEP wanted to load the latest device Driver. The card didn't even work under windoze 3.1. IF ANYONE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULL PLEASE MAKE A POSTING.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep on a GW2000 P5? Message-ID: <1994Apr21.172502.1@nebula> From: itsmrwk@nebula.syscon.hii.com Date: 21 Apr 94 17:25:02 -0700 Organization: SYSCON Corporation I am about to buy a new system and will most likely purchase a Gateway 2000 Pentium system. I don't currently run NeXTstep but would like to be able to try it out in the future. Is 16mb enough or must I go to 32mb? Does NeXT support the following peripherals: NEC 3xp CD-ROM Intel EtherExpress Ethernet card Sound Blaster 16-bit lookalike card Colorado 250mb tape backup drive My plan is to have a 540mb ide and use OS/2's Boot Manager to be able to boot several different operating systems. Will NeXTstep mind being in a partion? Thanks, Ron -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Ronald W. Kaltenbaugh SYSCON Corporation| |RKALTENBAUGH@SYSCON.HII.COM |
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HD & CD-ROM busy lights flash constantly Date: 21 Apr 1994 22:27:05 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2p6ujp$84q@Times.Stanford.EDU> A minor concern/curiosity about my new NS/I 3.2 system is that the SCSI HD and SCSI CD-ROM drive busy lights (and the red light on my Adaptec 1542CF controller card inside the computer) flash constantly in NEXTSTEP. They flash even when absolutely nothing is happening and the system is completely idle. They flash precisely once per second. Is this normal? Is it bad? I can't hear the HD actually reading anything from the disk. Is it actually reading or wriing anything or causing any wear on the disk? Even if it is actually reading something from the disk every second, and I leave the machine on 24-hours per day as I plan to, I think HDs are reliable enough now that it won't matter, so mostly this is just curiosity. It does not happen in my friend's NeXTStation Color Turbo. I'm assuming this has something to do with the SCSI bus, but I don't understand why the devices need to talk to each other so often. -Karl
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64 bits, who needs them ? Date: 21 Apr 1994 22:48:42 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: na Message-ID: <2p6vsaINNkkh@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <CEDMAN.94Apr20224453@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2p5547$kkc@masala.cc.uh.edu> In article <2p5547$kkc@masala.cc.uh.edu>, dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (David Wang) writes: |> |> Au contrair, some 64 bit CPU's can execute 2 32 bit interger operations in |> parallel. though your OS and Apps will have to rewritten to take advantage |> of this, it does offer significant advantages. These operations generally require the operands for the first operation to be in the lower halves of the 64-bit operand registers, and the operands for the second operation to be in the upper halves. As a result, these operations generally aren't worth using except in cases where such alignment comes "free" (i.e. without the overhead of a pair of shifts and a pair of additional loads to set each operation up). They are therefore very useful for image- and signal-processing tasks, but not for much else. Incidentally, this kind of operation is nothing new: the big Cray "vector processors" have been doing much the same thing on the FP side for quite a while. I guess an academic would term it SIMD: Single Instruction, Multiple Data parallelism... FYI, the ability to execute 2 16-bit operations in parallel in a similar manner is part of the HP PA-7100LC's (Gecko's processor) "multimedia acceleration". It works quite well for MPEG and JPEG algorithms... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
From: Mark G. Tacchi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't power-up a color station Date: 21 Apr 1994 21:59:38 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p6t0b$ejg@rosie.next.com> References: <2or5rj$ena@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> In article <2or5rj$ena@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca () writes: # In <Co8836.nn@id.com> randy@id.com (Randy Tidd) writes: # # >I have a color station that won't power up. When I hit the power key on # >the keyboard I get nothing at all. I suddenly realized that it was off # >one day that I had a lot of company over, including some kids, so the # >possibilities are endless. # # If your internal drive spins up, then removing and replacing the SIMMs # would be a good thing to try. # -- # .. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK. ..or the battery. -- Mark G. Tacchi System Support Engineer NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: configuring NS/I boot manager Date: 21 Apr 1994 22:32:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2p6uu9$86p@Times.Stanford.EDU> Can one reconfigure the boot manager? I want it to always boot to NEXTSTEP unless I explicitly press 'd' for DOS for '1-4' for a partition number. ALWAYS. Right now, the behavior seems to be to boot the last booted operating system, but I almost never boot DOS twice; I just get in and out. Also, occasionally (but often enough to be annoying), it seems to boot to DOS when the last booted OS was NS. Usually this seems to happen when I do something configur-ish (like use configure or change network settings, etc.) with NS and reboot it. Is it common for the memory bit of which OS was booted last time to become corrupted? Can the boot manager be configured? -Karl
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,su.computers.next Subject: robustness testing before performance tuning Date: 21 Apr 1994 23:12:03 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2p7183$903@Times.Stanford.EDU> An important question and some (I think) useful ideas and philosophy follow. And at the end I issue two challenges... Basic question: Is there any software, or are there any things to check by hand, to test out a new NEXTSTEP system when things appear to work correctly in order to determine with high confidence that everything is in fact working properly and there aren't any hidden incompatibility problems? Background: With all the complaints about incompatibility in the NS/I world, I posted a while ago a question about whether NS/I compatibility was a black and white issue or whether there were shades of gray. That is, if you go out and buy a non-supported system, does successful NS installation and brief use of all system components indicate that there is a good likelihood that everything works fine and is completely compatible? Specifically, it is easy to determine the supported components for NS/I and stick to those. The real potential for problems is with the motherboard. How likely is it that a motherboard can be 80% compatible, or 90% compatible, in ways that aren't ilkely to be noticed in the first 30 days of ownership? It certainly seems to be the case that certain peripherals (e.g., ProAudioStudio16 ISA sound card) seem to cause intermittant problems (freeze up and crash the OS). [Philosophizing & soap-box mode on] In general, it seems when people buy a new sophisticated computer system (NS or other), the first thing they do once it is set up (in addition to playing games or gawking at multimedia type stuff) is to start doing performance benchmarking. (At least serious computer junkies seem to.) This makes some sense since presumably they always could have bought cheaper systems if they were willing to suffer from worse performance of some kind. So benchmarking is a way to check that they got their money's worth. In addition, after an initial set of performance evaluations (and after bragging about these on the net and to their computer-junky-inclined friends :-) ) they can try to improve their systmes scores by fiddling with various things. This has some utility since presumably it will improve the quality of their system. But still, it seems to me they have missed something, namely robustness testing. Things often go wrong with computer systems and they should try to make whatever is going to go wrong actually do so as soon as possible. This is admittedly, a significantly less important issue in worlds where there are few or no compatibility issues, since it applies mostly to compatibility problems (since actual hardwar failures are tested for more extensively before shipping and also are covered under warranty for a reasonably long period of time). But in the NS/Intel world this is especially important. Furthermore, I would claim that compatibility problmes will be increasingly important in the future as more and more hardware is capable of running more and more different software and operating systems. Thus, this will be an issue for more and more people. Having gotten no responses to my black & white vs. shades of gray question, I went ahead and bought a Gateway Pentium to run NS/I, even though it was not a certified or listed NextAnswers system, having heard over the net of one person successfully installing NS on the Intel motherboard used in these systems. I installed NS and everything seems to work, for the most part, great (and fast too! :-) ). So what should I do now, in the roughly 1 week I have left before my 30 days are up to put my new system through its paces? Challenge (1): Send me the hardest tasks you think a NEXTSTEP system has to face that you think are most likely to cause problems to show up if they exist. Challenge (2): I think someone who has access to a lot of different PC hardware should design a piece of software and/or suite of tests which would with high confidence (I'd be impressed by 75%) and in only a few hours expose problems which still exist after NEXTSTEP installation. Or do you actually believe that both challenges are a waste of time because you have confidence that compatibility issues are black or white. Care to back up the opinion? -Karl
From: hbott@esu.edu (Howard B Ott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: kernel panic exception (6,3,1), NS/I on GW2K P5-66 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 22 Apr 1994 01:10:57 GMT Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Message-ID: <2p7871$j7i@jake.esu.edu> References: <2p6pho$6ac@Times.Stanford.EDU> Karl Robert Pfleger (kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : I finally got my system completely assembled, configured, partitioned, : and loaded with NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. Yeah! Mostly it seems to work : great, except... : Very occasionally (once every 5-7 boots roughly), I get a kernel panic : which crashes the boot process and I have to reboot, which usually : works. When it does boot correctly, most everything seems to work fine. : ----- : <after registering various devices> : rootdev 600, howto 0 : panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mount root: cannot mount root : panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root (rcbuilder): mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 : kernel panic exception (6,3,1) : Waiting for remote debugger connection. : (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) : ----- I have the same problem, my config is DELL XPS 66Mhz 486 ATI ULTRA pro VLB Adaptec 1542C ISA SCSI controller Intel EtherExpress16 ISA network card NEC CDR74 Fujitsu 520 MB No sound card running NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. Berk Ott
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what about station (was Re: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060) introduced?) Date: 21 Apr 1994 17:26:23 GMT Organization: University of Florida Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p6cvvINN6h2@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <CoMABz.J3I@oakhill.sps.mot.com> In article <CoMABz.J3I@oakhill.sps.mot.com> jtr@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Reinhart) writes: > In article <2on076$942@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> icardena@dcl-nxt12 (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: > > Given the information below any person with the hardware knowledge > >care to speculate on the chances of an '060 upgrade for an '040 NeXTCube? > > It's technically very straight-forward and we know of at least one company > (not officially announced) working on such a product. > What about the station? Is there room? I would like this to happen for my Non-Turbo monochrome NeXTstation! -- Sincerely, charles d. kincaid -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dept. of Statistics 'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!' Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Multiboard Cube Recipe Available ? Message-ID: <CoMt4o.4s4@ucdavis.edu> Summary: Have TWO 030's and ONE 040 planning for a NeXT Dimension Sender: David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Distribution: world Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 22:57:59 GMT I have a cube with TWO 030's and an 040. Would like to set it up so that I can later place a NeXT Dimension on it, use the 040 as a number cruncher/application runner, use one 030 as a scanner/fax/ answering machine server and the other as a printer server. BUT FOR NOW, I will run the cube with the mono monitor connected to the 040 until I get the NeXT Dimension and a color monitor. I would like to have the 030's connected to the 040 by both ethernet and serial ports. Question 1) What kind of serial cables do I use ? ( I will have one serial port from each 030 into the two ports on the 040 ) Question 2) I would like access to the ROM monitors via the serial ports and if possible the ethernet connection. How do I set things up so that this will happen? Do I use tip? I would like to configure everything to have maximal throughput on the serial lines. (I have the the proper ethernet cabling and all and the NW Admin Manual for the Network Configuration ) Question 3) How do I place the boards in the cube? Which slot for which board? I plan to have the 030's as diskless clients unless there is a better or a necessary work around. I will eventually put a NeXT Dim. in the last remaining slot. Please send response or post replys to this snoosegrupe. Thanks, David Bradford dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu
From: silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: kernel panic exception (6,3,1), NS/I on GW2K P5-66 Date: 21 Apr 1994 21:37 MST Organization: LAMPF Data Analysis Center, Los Alamos, New Mexico Distribution: world Message-ID: <21APR199421370648@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov> References: <2p6pho$6ac@Times.Stanford.EDU> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <2p6pho$6ac@Times.Stanford.EDU>, kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes... >I finally got my system completely assembled, configured, partitioned, Go get the newer Adaptec drivers from ftp.next.com.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: Re: [intel] PC motherboards that work with NSFIP Message-ID: <1994Apr21.140007.17178@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2p5bb6$ec@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:00:07 GMT In article <2p5bb6$ec@auggie.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu writes: > Howdy, > > I'm looking for a PC motherboard that works with NS. Here's some of my choices. > I'm looking for a PC motherboard that works with NS. Here's some of my choices. I've tried a Mirconics 486/VL/EISA board and a Micronics Pentium/PCI/ISA board. The EISA/VL/486 board works very well --even sound works well. The Pentium is faster, of course, but sound had some glitches I never had time to resolve. Take care, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571 -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: dtw07138@menudo.uh.edu (David Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HD & CD-ROM busy lights flash constantly Date: 21 Apr 1994 23:52:59 -0500 Organization: /usr/local/news/organization Message-ID: <2p7l7b$6kh@menudo.uh.edu> References: <2p6ujp$84q@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2p6ujp$84q@Times.Stanford.EDU>, Karl Robert Pfleger <kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >A minor concern/curiosity about my new NS/I 3.2 system is that the SCSI >HD and SCSI CD-ROM drive busy lights (and the red light on my Adaptec >1542CF controller card inside the computer) flash constantly in >NEXTSTEP. They flash even when absolutely nothing is happening and the >system is completely idle. They flash precisely once per second. > >Is this normal? Is it bad? I can't hear the HD actually reading anything >from the disk. Is it actually reading or wriing anything or causing any >wear on the disk? > >Even if it is actually reading something from the disk every second, and >I leave the machine on 24-hours per day as I plan to, I think HDs are >reliable enough now that it won't matter, so mostly this is just >curiosity. It does not happen in my friend's NeXTStation Color Turbo. >I'm assuming this has something to do with the SCSI bus, but I don't >understand why the devices need to talk to each other so often. > >-Karl I have a similar problem, but slightly varied. My NS/I machine, when I leave it on for a while (logged in) sometimes the CD-ROM just goes crazy, I mean it almost seems that the system is say, oh gee, the CPU is idle, let's cache everything on the CD-ROm onto the harddrive, the harddrive would also spin madly to try to catch up, yet ther woulbe be absolutely no application running! and the worst thing is that I can't stop this behavior, it just goes on and on, if I try to drap the CD-Rom icon to the trash can to eject it, NS says that some app is using it, and yet there is no app using it! (all I have left running is the workspace manager, and mayhbe preferences) the only way to stop this behavior is to manually eject the disk, and then log out, and then log back in , and then the system won't ask for the cd-rom for a while again. This only seems to happend it I happen to leave the system logged on for a while just sitting there, so I just log out now when I have to leave it on. I have a sony 541 hooked up to an adaptec 1542B... anyone seen this before? David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) Subject: Re: Do not buy a Quantum PD1800s for use with NextStep Message-ID: <dcodeConB46.CLy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2p6lq2$a1r@nntp2.stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 05:26:30 GMT In article <2p6lq2$a1r@nntp2.stanford.edu>, Todd Takken <takken@raven.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >In summary: I advise you not to buy a Quantum PD1800s hard drive for use >with NextStep. It is at the very least difficult, and is probably >impossible to get the Quantum PD1800s formatted under NextStep. I advise >you to buy a Micropolis 1,75 GB drive. It works flawlessly. I'd just like to clarify this statement which I understand should be... ...advise you not to buy a Quantum PD1800s hard drive for use with *NeXT hardware*... I've got a PD1800s on an Intel machine and it works great running NeXTSTEP on it. I'm using it with an Adaptec 1542C controller. I'm happy, my hard drive is happy, and apparently so is NeXTSTEP. Happy, happy, joy, joy. :^) Paul -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- dCode | dcode@netcom.com | NeXT Mail Happily Accepted Paul Marcos | (415) 960-3259 (voice & fax)|
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Whats the word on the Gecko? Date: 22 Apr 1994 07:21:23 -0400 Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877 Message-ID: <2p8bvj$aa4@great-miami.iac.net> What ever happened with NS on the HP 9000/712? Anyword.. Does anyone have performance specs between a Pentium based system and an HP Gecko? Thanks -- Brick Eksten Eco Development brick@iac.net EcoDev@cup.portal.com
From: mas@csa.bu.edu (Mark A. Semich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Alternate Keyboards? Date: 22 Apr 1994 12:17:18 GMT Organization: Your site will be assimilated Message-ID: <MAS.94Apr22081718@csa.bu.edu> I seem to remember hearing about some company that made ergonomical, curvy keyboards for the NeXT. I have a pre-adb NeXTstation, and was wondering if there were any keyboard options for it other than the original that came with it. Thanks for any info... mas@csa.bu.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,su.computers.next Subject: Re: robustness testing before performance tuning Date: 22 Apr 1994 12:54:48 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2p8heo$l74@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2p7183$903@Times.Stanford.EDU> In article <2p7183$903@Times.Stanford.EDU>, Karl Robert Pfleger <kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >An important question and some (I think) useful ideas and philosophy follow. >And at the end I issue two challenges... > >Basic question: Is there any software, or are there any things to check >by hand, to test out a new NEXTSTEP system when things appear to work >correctly in order to determine with high confidence that everything is in >fact working properly and there aren't any hidden incompatibility problems? > > Background deleted > >Challenge (1): Send me the hardest tasks you think a NEXTSTEP system has >to face that you think are most likely to cause problems to show up if >they exist. > >Challenge (2): I think someone who has access to a lot of different >PC hardware should design a piece of software and/or suite of tests >which would with high confidence (I'd be impressed by 75%) and in only a >few hours expose problems which still exist after NEXTSTEP installation. > >Or do you actually believe that both challenges are a waste of time >because you have confidence that compatibility issues are black or white. >Care to back up the opinion? > I'd have to say that the hardest task is simply getting NEXTSTEP itself to run. There's no application in general that is going to exercise the basic hardware of the computer, memory, video interfaces, disk I/O, interrupts and dma more than NS itself. Then of course you have specific interfaces and/or hardware that NS itself won't directly exercise in the course of everyday operation, but these tend to rather specific to the mission the user has intended (ie:peripherals and applications related to them). The difficulty you encounter at this point is whether you are testing the hardware or NS itself with any particular package. NS requires/demands good performance of its components. Hardware flaws or firmware bugs in cards or peripherals or masked by BIOS code that escaped notice in lesser Operatings Systems (msdos, windoze,...) can interfer with NS operation. Bugs within NS (the few that exist ;-) can make it difficult to debug certain types of problems. I suspect we could probably come up with a general list of Apps to run and some additional test code to use as a system exerciser, but you are not going to find those problems that make you want to tear your hair out until you can't run the application YOU need. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: wright@LAA.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BNC Connector on NeXT Turbo Date: 22 Apr 1994 13:39:23 GMT Organization: Lynn-Arthur Associates, Ann Arbor, MI Message-ID: <2p8k2b$pt7@nigel.msen.com> Can someone please tell me the part number/supplier of the BNC connector on the NeXT Turbo box? Mine broke off. I need to get a new one. Thank you. Please email or call. Anyone who chances to need the same info contact me and I will pass on what I learn. Carl A. Wright Lynn-Arthur Associates, Inc. +1 313 995 5590 wright@laa.com Operations Support Systems +1 313 995 5989 (fax) 2350 Green Road Suite 160 Ann Arbor, MI, 48105 USA
From: nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what about station (was Re: NeXTCube with '060? (was Re: 68060) introduced?) Date: 22 Apr 1994 10:12:55 -0500 Organization: Kansas State University Message-ID: <2p8phn$1nv@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> References: <CoMABz.J3I@oakhill.sps.mot.com> <2p6cvvINN6h2@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid) writes: >> > Given the information below any person with the hardware knowledge >> >care to speculate on the chances of an '060 upgrade for an '040 >NeXTCube? > What about the station? Is there room? I would like this to >happen for my Non-Turbo monochrome NeXTstation! Well, whoever posted the original message regarding the specifications of the '060 said that the chip was pin compatible with the '040. I beleive that this means in order to upgrade all you must do is be adventurous and desolder the '040 from your motherboard (I am pretty sure the '040 is soldered in and not socketed), solder a socket in its place (or the '060 directly which is more dangerous) and plug the '060 in. Don't anybody take my word for this because it is highly probable that I am wrong. It is also a very dangerous procedure that could destroy both the microprocessor and/or your motherboard. Neal Howland nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu (Gareth S. Bestor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Printing to HP LaserJet III? Date: 22 Apr 1994 16:39:45 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p8ukh$9iu@news.doit.wisc.edu> I just got a NS/Intel system at work and would like to attach a printer to it. A quick glance over the list of printers in Printmanager.app shows up the HP LaserJet III Postscript Cartridge and HP LJIII Plus. We have a non-Postscript plain-vanilla HP LJIII sitting around. Before I go out and buy the Postscript cartridge, is there anything I should be aware of (memory requirements, etc). Also, what's the difference between this and the HP LJIII Plus? Finally, would buying the Dots program and printing directly to the existing non-Postscript HP LJIII that I have be a better idea? Thanks in advance, - Gareth -- Gareth S. Bestor "A University should be a bestor@cs.wisc.edu (NeXTmail welcome) place of light, of liberty, Department of Computer Sciences and of learning." University of Wisconsin-Madison - Disraeli
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next <-> DOS on a Bernoulli Date: 22 Apr 1994 15:21:23 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p8q1k$nbd@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <2p8eb5$lqi@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Gerry Gray (gray@stat.ncsu.edu) wrote: : I have an Iomega transportable Bernoulli drive that works OK on my : PC at work and on my slab at home (as a SCSI device under NS 3.0). : I'd like to use it for transporting some large datasets, but : unfortunately I can't seem to get the Next to recognize a DOS : formatted Bernoulli. It wants to initialize the drive, and only : gives the "Next" format option. The fstab man page makes some : comment about DOS devices being limited to only .72 and 1.44 Mb : floppies. So my question: is it possible to make this idea : work (maybe under NS 3.2)? Can I set up a fstab entry that will : do the trick under 3.0? Almost all suggestions are welcome. I have a Bernoulli 150, and would like to do the same. I've talked to NeXT about this, and they said there was a bug that caused FAT Bernoulli's not to mount. This was 6 months ago, and no fix yet. Give them a call if you want it fixed. -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: gray@stat.ncsu.edu (Gerry Gray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next <-> DOS on a Bernoulli Date: 22 Apr 1994 12:01:41 GMT Organization: Statistics, NCSU, Raleigh Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p8eb5$lqi@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Originator: gray@essss1.stat.ncsu.edu I have an Iomega transportable Bernoulli drive that works OK on my PC at work and on my slab at home (as a SCSI device under NS 3.0). I'd like to use it for transporting some large datasets, but unfortunately I can't seem to get the Next to recognize a DOS formatted Bernoulli. It wants to initialize the drive, and only gives the "Next" format option. The fstab man page makes some comment about DOS devices being limited to only .72 and 1.44 Mb floppies. So my question: is it possible to make this idea work (maybe under NS 3.2)? Can I set up a fstab entry that will do the trick under 3.0? Almost all suggestions are welcome.
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: configuring NS/I boot manager Date: 22 Apr 1994 18:42:53 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2p95rd$2f1@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2p6uu9$86p@Times.Stanford.EDU> Karl Robert Pfleger <kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> writes: > Can one reconfigure the boot manager? I want it to always boot to > NEXTSTEP unless I explicitly press 'd' for DOS The way we've fixed this is not through a change to the boot manager but using the standard approach of going into 'FDISK' in DOS and setting the active partition to be the NeXTSTEP partition instead of the DOS one. This lets us always boots to NeXTSTEP unless we explicitly ask to do otherwise. You can probably also use /usr/etc/fdisk in interactive mode to do the same. - Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: HD & CD-ROM busy lights flash constantly Message-ID: <CooAA0.1sr@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2p6ujp$84q@Times.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 18:05:59 GMT In article <2p6ujp$84q@Times.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes: > A minor concern/curiosity about my new NS/I 3.2 system is that the SCSI > HD and SCSI CD-ROM drive busy lights (and the red light on my Adaptec > 1542CF controller card inside the computer) flash constantly in > NEXTSTEP. They flash even when absolutely nothing is happening and the > system is completely idle. They flash precisely once per second. > > Is this normal? Is it bad? I can't hear the HD actually reading anything > from the disk. Is it actually reading or wriing anything or causing any > wear on the disk? > > Even if it is actually reading something from the disk every second, and > I leave the machine on 24-hours per day as I plan to, I think HDs are > reliable enough now that it won't matter, so mostly this is just > curiosity. It does not happen in my friend's NeXTStation Color Turbo. > I'm assuming this has something to do with the SCSI bus, but I don't > understand why the devices need to talk to each other so often. > > -Karl Whenever you have a drive with removable media connected to your SCSI bus, NEXTSTEP does this, to find out, wether you inserted a medium. You can check this by inserting a medium; the it stops. Gerd
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger) Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Benchmarks for comparing Sun IPX, ELC, Nextstation and Dec PC DX/2 Date: 19 Apr 1994 19:53:13 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p1cr9$in1@email.tuwien.ac.at> I need results of benchmark programs to compare a Sun IPX, a Sun Sparc ELC, a NeXTstation (25Mhz, Mono) and a DEC PC MTE 66Dx/2 (the last two running NeXTSTEP). CPU and I/O performance are recommended (floating point is not important). I know the Spec Int 92 numbers for Sun IPX and ELC, but not for NeXTSTEP. Especially, I have no clue where to get a good benchmark for I/O performance (I doubt, iozone is useful). Thanks to anyone, who can point me to programs, I can run on the requested platforms or to existing numbers. Andreas. -- == Andreas == Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hlam@bmerh170.bnr.ca (Hayward Lam) Subject: Re: Diamond Viper VLB DID NOT WORK Message-ID: <1994Apr22.193828.12383@bmers95.bnr.ca> Sender: hlam@bmerh170 (Hayward Lam) Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada References: <2p6pun$7d8@news.csus.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 19:38:28 GMT In article <2p6pun$7d8@news.csus.edu>, arman@futon.SFSU.EDU (Arman Khalili) writes: |> I tried everything but I couldn't get the new |> Diamond Viper VLB 2 VRAM to work. the screen |> simply blanked out the moment NeXTSTEP wanted |> to load the latest device Driver. |> The card didn't even work under windoze 3.1. |> |> IF ANYONE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULL PLEASE MAKE A |> POSTING. |> Install the NS essential on the drive first. Once that is done, it asks you to restart your computer. After your computer is restarted, you should see a login panel. Login in as root, insert the floppy with package for the driver. Use installer to install the package. Use Configuration.app to select display, you should see Wietek 9000 in the list. Select it. Choose the resolution your monitor supports. Save the setting and log out. Restart your system, and it should work. That's what I did and it works fine. Hayward
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matthias Rosenberger Subject: Re: Benchmarks for comparing Sun IPX, ELC, Nextstation and Dec PC DX/2 Message-ID: <1994Apr22.205122.22723@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) References: <2p1cr9$in1@email.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 20:51:22 GMT In article <2p1cr9$in1@email.tuwien.ac.at> ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger) writes: > > I need results of benchmark programs to compare a Sun IPX, a Sun Sparc > ELC, a NeXTstation (25Mhz, Mono) and a DEC PC MTE 66Dx/2 (the last two > running NeXTSTEP). > > CPU and I/O performance are recommended (floating point is not important). > I know the Spec Int 92 numbers for Sun IPX and ELC, but not for NeXTSTEP. > Especially, I have no clue where to get a good benchmark for I/O > performance (I doubt, iozone is useful). > > Thanks to anyone, who can point me to programs, I can run on the requested > platforms or to existing numbers. > citation from comp.benchmarks: -------8<-------- snip -------8<----- snap ------8<---------8<------ [..] Subject: SPECmark table [..] This file is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.cdf.toronto.edu in the file /pub/spectable. [..] ******** TABLE 1: SPECint92, SPECFP92 ******** Notes: - SPECint 92 is derived from the results of a set of integer benchmarks, and can be used to estimate a machine's single-tasking performance on integer code. - SPECfp 92 is derived from the results of a set of floating point benchmarks, and can be used to estimate a machine's single-tasking performance on floating-point code. (to sort on specint92/specFP92, "sort -n +0.43 -0.48"/"sort -n +0.49 -0.54" ) Field start, end column positions: 0,12 13,22 23,29 30,42 43,48 49,54 55,60 61,79 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- System CPU ClkMHz Cache SPEC SPEC Info Source Name Type ext/in Ext+I/D 92Int 92 FP Date Obtained ------------ --------- ------ ------------ ----- ----- ------------------------ [..] HP 425t 68040 25 4/4 12.3 10.3 Jun93 DECinfo HP 425e 68040 25 4/4 12.2 9.3 Jun93 DECinfo i486DX 80486 50 256+8 30.1 14.0 Oct92 comp.arch i486DX2 80486DX2 66 0+8 32.4 16.1 Sep92 uproc report iPentium Pentium 60 256+8/8 58.3 52.2 Mar93 comp.arch iPentium Pentium 66 256+8/8 64.5 56.9 Mar93 comp.arch Sun SS ELC SP/FuWe 33 64 18.2 17.9 Nov92 Sunflash Sun SS IPX SP/FuWe 40 64 21.8 21.5 Nov92 Sunflash Compaq Dkpro 80486DX 33 128+8 18.2 8.3 Sep92 SPEC newsletter Compaq Dkpro 80486DX2 50 256+8 25.7 12.2 Mar93 SPEC newsletter Compaq Dkpro 80486DX2 66 256+8 32.2 16.0 Mar93 SPEC newsletter Compaq ProXL Pentium 66.7 256+8/8 65.1 63.6 Sep93 SPEC newsletter Mobius P5-60 Pentium 60 50.0 46.7 Jan94 comp.sys.sun.hw VAX 11/780 VAX 1.0 1.0 Reference System [..] -------8<-------- snip -------8<----- snap ------8<---------8<------ The HP 425 may roughly compare to elder NextStations. Of course, they have a different system. But don't overestimate such numbers. You don't have any clue how they correspond to your special applications. If it's possible, the best way to estimate the performance according to your needs is to compile your special progs on each station and to compare then. If you want to have a look at a freely available benchmark suite try out the SSBA suite, which the german UNIX magazine 'iX' uses to compare workstation performance: ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/doc/magazine/iX/tools/ssba1.22.tar.Z Matthias > Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail > accepted. Wissen ist Macht. Ich weiss nix - macht nix. ;^) -- Matthias Rosenberger, Walter Schottky Institut, TU Muenchen email: matthias@macnet.wsi.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ostdiek@spot.Colorado.EDU (Vern Ostdiek) Subject: Modem problems on NSI Message-ID: <Coo8Gx.DCz@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU> Sender: usenet@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU (Net News Administrator) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 17:26:57 GMT mail comp.sys.next.hardware subject Help please. NSI modem problem. I have a NeXT-Intel equipped with an internal Supra 14.4 FaxModem that has problems communicating with a "terminal". It acts on AT commands but it doesn't display anything--not even "OK" after "AT <CR>". Using kermit or cu I can get the modem to dial out and connect, but the incoming message won't display on its own. Each time I hit a key I get 2 more characters of the incoming stuff. When I login as "console" I get the following response to "AT": ttyscc1: receive error 2 (-902) Couldn't find anything in the NeXTAdmin or NeXTDev libraries about this. I've tried resetting /etc/ttys and /etc/gettytab entries, changing ownerships and permissions (as suggested by kermit doc.), etc. I'm pretty sure I have the IRQ's for the serial ports set correctly. Nothing changed when I upgraded from 3.1 to 3.2. I haven't tried the fax. I also have a DOS-Windows partition on my HD and the kermit-based modem software works just fine. (It's a drag having to reboot into Windows to use the modem--embarrassing, too.) I'm a NeXT newbie--never used a black beauty--so there may be some very basic thing that I should have done but didn't. (Hardware details: NICE superEISA MB, 486DX/2, 32MB, Adaptec 1542c, Fujitsu 512MB SCSI HD, ATI GUP-VESA, NEC 3FGe, serial mouse, NEC Silentwriter, Toshiba 3401 CD, PASpectrum16. 6 months old.) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. BTW: Aside from the modem problem, I LOVE IT. I've had no other problems getting everything else working. (Well, I can't get audio CD's to play, but I can live with that.) Thanks. Vern Ostdiek (ostdiek@paradox.colorado.edu No NeXTmail.)
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Alternate Keyboards? Date: 22 Apr 1994 17:36:12 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <2p91uc$9rq@hippo.shef.ac.uk> References: <MAS.94Apr22081718@csa.bu.edu> Mark A. Semich (mas@csa.bu.edu) wrote: : I seem to remember hearing about some company that made ergonomical, : curvy keyboards for the NeXT. I have a pre-adb NeXTstation, and was : wondering if there were any keyboard options for it other than the : original that came with it. : Please post any relevant information! I would love a Dvorak keyboard, for example, but don't know where I might get one... Sources for NeXT, ADB and PC variants would be appreciated. Have fun, mmalcolm-who-suffers-from-rsi :-(
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 100Mhz '486 and 90Mhz Pentiums. Date: 21 Apr 94 18:34:46 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SCOTT.94Apr21183446@nic.gac.edu> Having just purchased a 66Mhz '486DX2, I turned around and saw ads for 100Mhz '486DX4 and 90Mhz Pentiums. Sigh. Anyone tried NEXTSTEP on one of these beasties? From what I've seen of Intel machines in general, they are strongly IO limited - when you give the CPU something to _do_, it's fast, but it spends too much time waiting on the disk and the like. Do these faster CPUs show any improvement? How do compiles compare (with -pipe on)? Thanks, -- scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it> Home: 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Office: 101 W. Burnsville Pkwy, Suite 108F, Burnsville, MN 55337 890-1332 <Just 'a driving my u-haul down the information superhighway>
From: mwebster@lab9.smcm.edu (G. Matthew Webster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Step/Intel Coexisting with Win/NT and DOS6? Date: 22 Apr 1994 20:33:26 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2p9can$b46@umd5.umd.edu> I would like to have a triple booting system. Is this possible? If so, what do I need to do it? Thanks. Matt Webster
From: mwebster@lab9.smcm.edu (G. Matthew Webster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Future Domain SCSI Support Yet for NS/I 3.2? Date: 22 Apr 1994 20:34:33 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2p9ccp$b58@umd5.umd.edu> IS there a driver for my Future Domain 1680 ISA controller for NeXT Step? I know there wasn't one a while ago, but maybe NeXT or some third party has fixed that. ANy body have any idea? Matt Webster
From: lloyd@goldhost.lscf.ucsb.edu (Lloyd Goldwasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Alternate Keyboards? Date: 22 Apr 1994 20:28:03 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Message-ID: <2p9c0j$het@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> References: <2p91uc$9rq@hippo.shef.ac.uk> In article <2p91uc$9rq@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) writes: > I would love a Dvorak keyboard, for example, but don't know where I > might get one... Keep your old keyboard, and just use Keyboard.app to redefine which letters come out of which keys. It's a godd incentive for touch typing (of course, Dvorak layout is so nice that you don't need to look at the keyboard anyway :-) I'd be glad to send my .keymapping file with my own, improved variant of Dvorak . . . Lloyd Goldwasser goldwass@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu
From: nextinfo@aol.com (Nextinfo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Diamond Viper VLB DID NOT WORK Date: 22 Apr 1994 09:01:02 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2p8hqe$gg4@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2p6pun$7d8@news.csus.edu> It sounds like your card is the problem...I have been installing these boards for about three months now with no problems. Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) Subject: Re: Building Swapdisk References: <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead> Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg. Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 09:07:33 GMT Message-ID: <1994Apr22.090733.538@proximus.north.de> If you want a drive entirely used as a swapdisk, just build it with BuildDisk.app and name your disk... "swapdisk". ;-) Gerhard. -- +--< principiis obsta! >------------------< PGP key available on request >--+ N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstr. 12, 26122 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE NeXTmail X T Z-Net: Gerhard.Moeller@uniol.zer encouraged! T +-> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group: NoGeNUG@proximus.north.DE <-+ In article <9404100301.AA00470@lagerhead>, Bob Jones <thewoz!lagerhead!bob@netcom.com> wrote: >I recently added a large external drive to my slab and I am trying to figure out how to use >the 105 internal for a swap disk. Changing the default file location in /etc/swaptab didn't >seem to work - the system hung on reboot. Librarian say to use BuildDisk and it will tell by >the size that you want this to be a swapdisk, however I think that is something left over >from the old days with the cubes and their 40mb swapdisks. > >If someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. TIA > >-Bob (bob@id.com) > >NeXTmail gladly accepted :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Subject: Errors with Adaptec 1542CF and Micropolis 1.05GB MP2210 disk Organization: CYANTIC Systems Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 13:17:57 GMT Message-ID: <1994Apr22.131757.17887@cyantic.com> I am posting this for a friend so the equipment is not at hand. We are having a problem installing NS/FIP on a clone box. System board: ECS Elitegroup Computer Systems 486 SCSI Controller: Adaptec 1542CF HD: Micropolis 1.05Gb model MP2210 Video: Miro32 VESA This configuration worked previously with .5Gb Hitachi drive and .5Gb Micropolis drive with no problems. After receiving updated disk drivers from Next NS installed completely. the O/S loads up to the first screen with the NeXT logo where it freezes. This error message was found "TREAD: WAIT FOR INTERRUPT.: RETURN -735 Next cannot solve the problem, nor was Adaptec any help. NS saw the whole disk at installation time and .5Gb is allocated to NS and the rest is currently running MS-DOS/Windows -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OmniPlex Pentium/90 has arrived!!! Date: 22 Apr 1994 23:16:43 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2p9lsr$qjq@cerberus.wsc.com> Finally, the PC I've waited for is supported! I just got off the phone with Dell, and here's the scoop: - Dell OmniPlex Pentium [60/66/90] MHz - On board NCR PCI SCSI - On board ATI PCI Video - PCI/EISA bus Both Byte and PC Mag rated the OmniPlex as the best PC you can buy right now. Dell officially supports NEXTSTEP on this machine as well, so drivers are available for the integrated video and SCSI subsystems. It ain't cheap, but its a serious piece of hardware (well, for a PC of course ;-). Joy joy joy! - darcy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Subject: dimming monitors Message-ID: <1994Apr22.210945.23859@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 21:09:45 GMT I have a MegaPixel monitor on my NeXTCube that has dimmed down to the point where it was virtually unreadable. I powered off the system, unscrewed the back of the monitor, and with a jeweller's screwdriver, adjusted the "white level" screw counterclockwise until it stopped (about 1/6 of a turn). Suddenly the monitor is beautiful, the way it was when I bought it. It was the easiest thing in the world. I realize this is probably a temporary improvement. In fact, I would like to hear from others who have done this how long to expect this newly acquired brightness to last. Also, I have spoken with a company which will sell me a replacement tube for $195.00 Canadian. They say I can easily have a technician install this tube. This seems a cheaper alternative to buying a new monitor from Atlantic Bell. I just wanted to share this information with others who might have the same problem of a dimming monitor. Bill anderson
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is there a way to use the NeXT color printer from a PC ? Date: 22 Apr 1994 22:39:37 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2p9jn9$avs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Hi fellows ! What are the different ways to use a NeXT color printer from a PC ? Thanks in advance for your answers. I'll post a summury of them. Best regards, - Eric -- Opinion expressed is my own ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric_t@ks.uiuc.edu NeXT sys. admin. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jafri!ajafri (Amir Jafri) Subject: Next Color Printer Question Message-ID: <CooqJ3.249@jafri.uucp> Sender: ajafri@jafri.uucp (Amir Jafri) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 23:57:01 GMT I was wondering if new NeXT Color Printers were still being sold by some distributor. I've been out of touch with NeXT for some time, and would appreciate any help in this matter. Thanks. Amir. PS:I've heard the name Bell Atlantic being mentioned in some posts Amir Jafri jafri!ajafri@uunet.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Subject: Re: dimming monitors Message-ID: <1994Apr23.025309.26684@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News) Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT References: <1994Apr22.210945.23859@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 02:53:09 GMT In article <1994Apr22.210945.23859@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) writes: > I just wanted to share this information with others who might have the > same problem of a dimming monitor. It's already in the FAQ, folks...ignore them at your peril! ;-) You can get the FAQs in comp.sys.next.announce, or at a NeXT ftp archive site. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Subject: Suggested sources for a 1 Gb drive for a Nextcube? Message-ID: <CooJ8G.67K@califhistsoc.org> Sender: rm@califhistsoc.org (Robert MacKimmie) Organization: California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 21:19:28 GMT Concurring with Bernie French: Art Isbell gave me the recommendation a year ago when I needed a big drive and quick: "Give Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions a call (800-ALL-DISK)" Larry has provided very knowledgable *NeXT-Aware* service. Larry's major advantages: honest in all dealings so far, very concerned with excellent service, 5 year warrantees, and diligent 48 hour replacement/turnaround. Larry seems to be a really good business relation. Thank you, Art! From Larry I have purchased a 1-gig drive, just received a exabyte DAT drive and will within week or two be going to him for two 2.4 gig drives. I have been a very satisfied customer, and he always seems to have the best prices. Robert MacKimmie California Historical Society, San Francisco 415-567-1848 rm@califhistsoc.org
From: Chris Wei-Tae Kim <ck32+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Build from DAT drive? Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 23:07:36 -0400 Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ahi93s_00iV1IBMp5m@andrew.cmu.edu> Hi all. I just invested ~$1000 for a SCSI DAT drive for a backup source for a PC. Now that I think about it, I can probably use it to build NS intel from scratch. If that's is possible, it would be so wonderful. Then I can sell the CD-ROM and get some money back. Wouldn't it be great? The question I have is the following. Please any one who has an experience in this area help me!!! 1) I probably have to build a boot floppy but the bootfloopy script on ftp is written for black hardware(it uses 2.88 medium). How would I make a boot floppy for intel? 2) Upon making a bootfloppy successfully, I have to mount the tape drive and restore files. As I understand, /dev/* are not files, thus cannot be restored. (Just do it!) but how? Please help....thank you. -Chris, _ * Chris W. Kim (ck32@andrew) |(_ |\/| |_| * Carnegie Mellon Univ. | * 5030 Centre Ave. #951 | / Chris. * Pittsburgh PA, 15213 |/ | |\/| \\||// ___/| * Ph:(412)681-2499 |\ | | | -o.O- \o.O| * Class of 1994 | \ | | | (<>) =(o)= * Computer Science ***************** me * my girl friend ****************************** My first program I wrote in CMU 10 PRINT "CMU is #1!" 20 GOTO 10 ********************************************************************
Control: cancel <CoJID2.n4y@world.std.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sngmedia@world.std.com Subject: cmsg cancel <CoJID2.n4y@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 04:12:37 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.CoJID2.n4y@world.std.com> MARKET SURVEY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: daisy!stefan (Stefan Preuss) Subject: Viper-PCI NXBench Message-ID: <1994Apr22.110208.22210@flens.syd.de> Sender: usenet@flens.syd.de Organization: Sydlink e.V. Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 11:02:08 GMT Hi, we just tested the new WeitekP9000 Driver with a Viper-PCI Card ( ASUS-DX/2 Motherboard ). NXBench: 1152*900 1024*786 555 8bw ----------------------------- Line 0,77 1,11 Arc/Bezier 0,74 1,08 Fill 0,52 1,15 Transform 1,45 1,79 Composite 0,65 0,89 Userpath 1,66 2,09 Text 0,54 1,16 Window 0,41 0,80 ------------ 0,84 1,25 Stefan -- Stefan Preuss stefan@daisy.syd.de NeXT mail welcome PGP public key on request
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: OmniPlex Pentium/90 has arrived!!! In-Reply-To: samurai@hasc.ca's message of 22 Apr 1994 23:16:43 GMT To: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr22224236@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2p9lsr$qjq@cerberus.wsc.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 02:42:36 GMT In article <2p9lsr$qjq@cerberus.wsc.com> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: Finally, the PC I've waited for is supported! I just got off the phone with Dell, and here's the scoop: - Dell OmniPlex Pentium [60/66/90] MHz - On board NCR PCI SCSI - On board ATI PCI Video - PCI/EISA bus Both Byte and PC Mag rated the OmniPlex as the best PC you can buy right now. Dell officially supports NEXTSTEP on this machine as well, so drivers are available for the integrated video and SCSI subsystems. It ain't cheap, but its a serious piece of hardware (well, for a PC of course ;-). Now that sounds like being close to the ideal PC for NeXTstep which I was looking for. I hope the ATI PCI video is a Mach 64 card ? Do you have anything more which you can post ? BTW, where did you get that Byte review ? I received the May issue only a few days ago and there is no word in it about the Dell OmniPlex. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) Subject: Re: Dell #9GXE PCI Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <Coo1xC.6nA@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 15:05:36 GMT References: <Co4uLL.Au3@cuug.ab.ca> <1994Apr19.181251.1794@sat.mot.com> Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group >Tim: > I've been able to get it to work on a Dell Dimension XPS 466v. I didn't do > anything special. >- Mark >p25231@email.mot.com Yes, but that is a VLB #9 card, not PCI. Both NeXT and #9 have confirmed that the VL driver won't work with the #9 PCI. Tim
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: notebook questions Date: 23 Apr 1994 07:54:02 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <2pak6q$9p6@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Hi, I have a Cypress notebook running NS and I'm wondering about the status of various drivers that it would be nice to have if ... Like: I was told the PS/2 driver sucks so I have to use a serial mouse so I can't use my pocket modem with the mouse cause there's only one hole. But is there a PCMCIA driver yet so I could use a PCMCIA modem? Or is there a decent PS/2 mouse driver available somewhere? Trackballs suck! Don't eat while you're using one, that's for sure.... :-) -patricia@cco.caltech.edu
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Alternate Keyboards? Date: 23 Apr 1994 12:54:18 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <2pb5pq$rps@hippo.shef.ac.uk> References: <2p91uc$9rq@hippo.shef.ac.uk> <2p9c0j$het@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> Lloyd Goldwasser (lloyd@goldhost.lscf.ucsb.edu) wrote: : Keep your old keyboard, and just use Keyboard.app to redefine which : letters come out of which keys. It's a godd incentive for touch : typing (of course, Dvorak layout is so nice that you don't need : to look at the keyboard anyway :-) : :-) : I'd be glad to send my .keymapping file with my own, improved variant : of Dvorak . . . : Please, the old version I have is for some reason not useable on 3.2 I may as well ask here, by the way -- Does anybody else have problems with the Preferences-selected keyboard not being used? I use a very-slightly modified version of the ADB layout (so that the single-quote key is mapped in what I would call a sensible way!), but since changing it, despite the fact that it shows up as being selected in Preferences, I still always start off with the original layout... Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where does one shop for NeXT peripherals nowadays? (e.g. a UPS) Date: 23 Apr 1994 16:11:44 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2pbhc0$ls3@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2p20u7$c9n@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> > The product is > PowerGuardian by BenaTong, benatong@cypher.cmhnet.org, (614) 276-7859. > I haven't used it. I have, and it is pretty good. Great toys and bells. Beautiful NS interface and good system logging. My only problem was figuring out that one needs to turn on serial ports in the BIOS, under NS configuration, and then use the right port (or NS cannot shutdown any longer; a known NS bug). Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New SCSI Driver For PCI --- PCI #9 driver at higher res? Date: 23 Apr 1994 16:04:42 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pbguq$lo5@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2p6dh5INNhef@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Kris Magnusson has just quit his job at Alpine. Pity. I do not know who supports NS there now, but they should be able to provide a price on Monday. I am planning to order a DELL Dimension P60/90 soon, because DEC has not even announced price yet, much less delivery time. Unfortunately, the Dimension does not have the SCSI chip onboard. * Is anyone aware of a PCI card that uses the NCR SCSI chip that is sold and supported by a NS-competent dealer? (I hope Dave @ Paradigm will eventually sell these.) * Is someone working on a better driver for the #9 PCI card? With 3MB of RAM, supporting 1280*1024 in 16bit color should not be a problem. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) Subject: Canon NeXTstation info.. Message-ID: <CopzsE.Dwz@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 16:14:37 GMT Anyone have any info on the new Canon boxes? I know that at least demo units are out, is anyone who has one allowed to say anything? I'm in the market for a non-black NeXT so I'm really interested in this machine. Specs, price, availability?? Anyone?? Thanks, Mike
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Build from DAT drive? Date: 23 Apr 1994 16:21:16 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <2pbhts$261@hippo.shef.ac.uk> References: <Ahi93s_00iV1IBMp5m@andrew.cmu.edu> Chris Wei-Tae Kim (ck32+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Hi all. I just invested ~$1000 for a SCSI DAT drive for a backup source : for a PC. Now that I think about it, I can probably use it to build NS : intel from scratch. If that's is possible, it would be so wonderful. : Then I can sell the CD-ROM and get some money back. Wouldn't it be : great? The question I have is the following. Please any one who has an : experience in this area help me!!! : I trust your suggestion about selling the CD-ROM and getting your money back was a "joke"...? HF, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Re: UUCP and high speed connections: HELP! Message-ID: <1994Apr22.023819.5715@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies References: <2ouf13$e4v@newsflash.mitre.org> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 02:38:19 GMT Anyone who is using UUCP on NEXTSTEP should be running the GNU Taylor UUCP. The stock NeXT UUCP is an ancient, slow, hard to configure, hard to maintain, not so secure version that doesn't work well. How's that for anti-praise? You can obtain the source code to GNU Taylor UUCP from ftp.uu.net:/networking/uucp. While you're at it, I encourage you to use sendmail 8.6.8 which is available in source form from ftp.cs.berkeley.edu. Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting In article <2ouf13$e4v@newsflash.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes: > OK, I've read the online documentation. I've coordinated with the ad- > ministrator of the site that "feeds" my NeXTStation. I've tried mul- > tiple configurations, and I still can't seem to get a uucp connection > that transfers more than 700 to 800 characters/second. > > Here is my situation: I've got a ZyXEL U-1496e and am connecting via > UUCP to a feeder site for news and mail. UUCP connects through > /dev/cufb at 19200 (maybe) to my modem which in turn connects to my > feeder site at 14400 (V.32bis) with V.42 error correction. Compres- > sion is explicitely disabled. (My counterpart says that compression > tends to slow down batched news transfers because they are already > compressed.) CTS/RTS is enabled (by default, I believe) so that the > modem is not swamped by the 19200 speed of /dev/cufb. > > Now for the question/problem: Even with all of this, why am I still > getting data rates (as measured in the UUCP SYSLOG file) of less than > 800 cps? I don't get it; the setup is behaving as if it were running > at 9600. Is the stock NeXT UUCP package incapable of setting the > device to a speed above 9600? > > Well anyway here are what I believe are the relevant entries in my > L.sys and L-devices files: > > L-devices - > > DIR cufb unused 19200 direct > > L.sys - > > <feedersite> Any DIR 19200 cufb \ > "" AT \ > OK ATL2 \ /* speaker volume = 2 */ > OK AT&K3 \ /* disable compression */ > OK AT&N17 \ /* V.32bis 14400...4800 */ > OK ATDT5510095 \ > CONNECT \r\c \ > ogin:--ogin pandora \ > ssword: <mypasswd> > > Anybody got an ideas? Does v.32bis imply a compression? Is there a > way to verify the current speed of /dev/cufb while a UUCP connection is > enabled? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks much. > > Sincerely, > > > - Max > > | William R. Herndon \ The MITRE Corporation, Dept. G023 | > | EMail: wherndon@mitre.org \ Secure Information Technology | > | NeXTMail: bill@pandora.gcr.com \ MS-Z231, 703.883.6393 | > | | > | "Necessity is the mother of strange bedfellows." |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gjackson@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu () Subject: Probs with PAS 16 after reinstall Message-ID: <Coq4ry.LAv@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: String to put in the Organization Header Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 18:05:06 GMT **** This is a quick and dirty linux setup just to get this post **** **** out. Please reply to gjackson@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu **** I have a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card and an Adaptic 1542CF. When I first installed NS/I the sound card worked the first time. I decided to add a second IDE drive...and put NS/I on the second drive with a small boot partition on the primary drive. Now the PAS isn't working. If I try to set a sound using preferences...I can see an error on the console saying something to the effect that preferences: can get sound device. I read the file from Nextanswers on the PAS card and have tried different IRQ/DMA combinations with no luck, reboot after each change and as root. I also have a NEC 500 CD on the adaptec card...and it works fine...and have found that if I put in a music CD and play it with the player app (?), I can hear some music from the external speaker if I turn the volume control on the speakers to the max setting. So.....did any idea's why the card isn't working ? Being pretty new to Nextstep...sound I see any references to the PAS card while I am booting...like the CD displays ? Was it a "fluke" that the card seemed to work ok after my first installation ? The PAS works with dos, for whatever that's worth :-) Thanks for any tips.....Gary gjackson@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: anjrober@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson) Subject: OD problems again Message-ID: <Coq5E1.7s6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 18:15:37 GMT Hello all, I have a question about fixing up an OD. I wrote to this group about two months ago asking about cleaning an OD. Thanks to all who replied. It was a great help. I ended up taking apart the OD and cleaning it. But it still will not work for me. Everytime I put the OD in it immediately ejects it. The machine does not give me a warning panel or even ask if I want to initialize the disk, it just ejects. I got the OD to stay in and I am following an OD fix program I got from a friend who got it from NeXT. It tells me to fsck with an alternative super black location (fsck -b 16 -Y /dev/rod0a) but that barfs after it finds that it cannot read certain blocks. Does anyone have an idea how I could fix this up. Worse case scenario I would at least like to be able to use the OD reinitialized, but I really would like to have the info on the disk. Also is there a way to not eject the disk when the machine is powered off and/or a user logs out. If I get this disk in and working I would be perfectly happy to leave it in. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :-) -- --Andrew Robertson-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IU Dept. of Environmental Health and Safety 855-5252 IU School of Journalism NeXT mail accepted
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about that Alpha port? Date: 21 Apr 1994 14:12:40 -0400 Organization: Southgate Internet Host Distribution: na Message-ID: <2p6fmo$2ii@sgate.com> References: <2okove$1vk@cobber.cord.edu> <2oonvd$d96@inxs.concert.net> <BWH.94Apr16114504@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> In article <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: >Since they must have spent millions and millions developing the alpha, >I'd think that a mere $10 million more would be worth it to sell some >more machines. How many alphas could they have sold? NT is pretty >much a disaster, osf/1, didn't they shut down? OpenVMS I would think >would be the largest seller of alphas. Have they even sold 50k of the >alphas? I'm sure they've spent tons on fabs for the alpha. What's this "didn't they shut down" stuff? The amount of disinformation that flies around Usenet is incredible. DEC has committed itself to OSF/1, and I for one *LIKE IT*. Kinda like NEXTSTEP, no? No one's buying it, but it's a good product. Of course, there could be some dispute about whether or not anyone's buying it. Would you rather have Solaris? >There are several supercomputers that use alphas. >I think its just that next is too busy to do an alpha port, and dec >can't help but be a dinosaur. The DEC that I've been dealing with has been anything BUT a dinosaur. Talk like this does no good whatsoever. >-nick ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ HE: Let's end it all, bequeathin' our brains to science. SHE: What?!? Science got enough trouble with their OWN brains. -- Walt Kelley
From: alfred@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at (Alfred Lehar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: miro 32s - Problem Date: 23 Apr 1994 19:55:26 GMT Organization: University of Vienna Sender: alfred@sun1 (Alfred Lehar) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pbufe$aro@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> Whenever the NeXTStep installation procedure switches to VGA-Mode, only a small (5mm), very bright line appears on my monitor. I think the card's refresh rate is too high for my 64kHz Eizo 9080i. Miro has no hints for me. Thanks for your help in advance. Alfred alfred@finance1.bwl.univie.ac.at
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Where can I buy an optical drive for 3" 128Mb for NeXT computers ? Date: 23 Apr 1994 22:01:27 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pc5ro$jl3@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2p47u4$beb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) writes: > I'm searching to buy two optical drives for 3" 128Mb optical floppies > for NeXT computers. Where should I buy that ? At what price ? > > Best regards, > > - Eric I assume you're really thinking about 3.5" 128Mb Magneto-Optical disk drives. These are really nice to have. Note that some of the more popular MO drives will not work on NeXT hardware (my understanding is that they *do* work on Intel-based hardware which is running NS/Intel). Ones that will *not* work are drives using the "Fujitsu DynaMO" mechanism, or ones using the "Pinnacle Tahoe" mechanism. If you want to buy MO drives for NeXT hardware, you might want to call Radiant Technologies at 303-331-3117. I talk to Steve Collins there, but I imagine other people would also know the details (or could find them out quickly). Radiant has done testing with NeXT hardware, so they should know which of the current MO drives will work on a NeXT. Another outfit to try would be Liberty Systems, at 408-983-1127. They carry several kinds of hardware, and I know they used to have MO drives that worked fine on NeXT hardware. I haven't actually ordered anything from them myself, however. Prices for good MO drives are probably around $900 to $1000 right now, but I haven't been watching closely lately. You can get drives for less, but they'll generally be slower. You can also get faster drives, but they generally cost more. Funny how that happens... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: kernel panic exception (6,3,1), NS/I on GW2K P5-66 Date: 24 Apr 1994 01:10:55 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2pcguv$5eb@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <2p6pho$6ac@Times.Stanford.EDU> <2p7871$j7i@jake.esu.edu> In article <2p7871$j7i@jake.esu.edu>, Howard B Ott <hbott@esu.edu> wrote: >Karl Robert Pfleger (kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote: >: Very occasionally (once every 5-7 boots roughly), I get a kernel panic >: which crashes the boot process and I have to reboot, which usually >: works. When it does boot correctly, most everything seems to work fine. >: kernel panic exception (6,3,1) >: Waiting for remote debugger connection. >: (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) >I have the same problem, my config is > DELL XPS 66Mhz 486 > ATI ULTRA pro VLB > Adaptec 1542C ISA SCSI controller > Intel EtherExpress16 ISA network card > NEC CDR74 > Fujitsu 520 MB Consensus seems to be that it is the Adaptec card. One person said that switching to the DPT ISA controller made the problem go away. A number of people said they get the problem on EVERY boot. A couple people said to try upgrading to the new release of the Adaptec driver, available from NeXTAnswers. I had thought that I had installed that, but I'm not really sure, so I'll install it again to make sure. Good luck everyone. (Further data on the problem: every time I change the configuration a lot, like play with fdisk to change around the non-NEXTSTEP partitions, the next boot panics, but the one after that is okay.) -Karl
From: miked@mindvox.phantom.com (miked) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ecesys Date: Sat, 23 Apr 94 18:56:11 EDT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Message-ID: <c9B0kc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Originator: miked@mindvox Have ppl had experience with ecesys they can share with me? I want a decent box that will work. 2nd gen Wingine should be fine for my needs. I'm thinking a 32meg 1gig box with a Nanao f-560-iw monitor and a PAS soundcard. Email is fine, or post. Thanks.
From: pas@phantom.com (Paul Shetler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: kernel panic exception (6,3,1), NS/I on GW2K P5-66 Date: 23 Apr 1994 23:19:50 GMT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Message-ID: <2pcaem$8nd@dockmaster.phantom.com> References: <2p6pho$6ac@Times.Stanford.EDU> <2p7871$j7i@jake.esu.edu> Howard B Ott (hbott@esu.edu) wrote: : Karl Robert Pfleger (kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : : I finally got my system completely assembled, configured, partitioned, : : and loaded with NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. Yeah! Mostly it seems to work : : great, except... : : Very occasionally (once every 5-7 boots roughly), I get a kernel panic : : which crashes the boot process and I have to reboot, which usually : : works. When it does boot correctly, most everything seems to work fine. : : ----- : : <after registering various devices> : : rootdev 600, howto 0 : : panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mount root: cannot mount root : : panic: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root (rcbuilder): mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 : : kernel panic exception (6,3,1) : : Waiting for remote debugger connection. : : (Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) : : ----- : I have the same problem, my config is : DELL XPS 66Mhz 486 : ATI ULTRA pro VLB : Adaptec 1542C ISA SCSI controller : Intel EtherExpress16 ISA network card : NEC CDR74 : Fujitsu 520 MB : No sound card : running NEXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel. I also get this error, config is: Compaq Deskpro XE 560 16Mb RAM, localbus Qvision Fujitsu 1.2 GB drive Adaptec 1542c PAS Basic Chinon CDROM NS/FIP 3.2 pas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski) Subject: Re: Build from DAT drive? Message-ID: <1Q4NBORB@rkt.in-berlin.de> Sender: root@rkt.in-berlin.de (Operator) Organization: Home in Berlin References: <Ahi93s_00iV1IBMp5m@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 20:23:47 GMT Chris Wei-Tae Kim (ck32+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Hi all. I just invested ~$1000 for a SCSI DAT drive for a backup source : for a PC. Now that I think about it, I can probably use it to build NS : intel from scratch. If that's is possible, it would be so wonderful. : Then I can sell the CD-ROM and get some money back. Wouldn't it be : great? The question I have is the following. Please any one who has an : experience in this area help me!!! It's illegal to sell your CD's but use the software, and it is not great ... Rene -- ____________________________________________________________________ Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> NeXTMail accepted.
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next <-> DOS on a Bernoulli Date: 24 Apr 1994 04:11:42 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pcrhu$jln@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2p8eb5$lqi@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> In article <2p8eb5$lqi@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, Gerry Gray <gray@stat.ncsu.edu> wrote: > I have an Iomega transportable Bernoulli drive that works OK on my >PC at work and on my slab at home (as a SCSI device under NS 3.0). >I'd like to use it for transporting some large datasets, but >unfortunately I can't seem to get the Next to recognize a DOS >formatted Bernoulli. It wants to initialize the drive, and only >gives the "Next" format option. The fstab man page makes some >comment about DOS devices being limited to only .72 and 1.44 Mb >floppies. So my question: is it possible to make this idea >work (maybe under NS 3.2)? Can I set up a fstab entry that will >do the trick under 3.0? Almost all suggestions are welcome. We have a Pinnacle PMO-650, and NeXT has similar behavior for DOS formatted disks. It works great for NeXT format, and also allows formatting for Macintosh, though I haven't tried it. Varun
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Alternate Keyboards? Date: 24 Apr 1994 04:19:51 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2pcs17$jm6@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <2p91uc$9rq@hippo.shef.ac.uk> <2p9c0j$het@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> In article <2p9c0j$het@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu>, Lloyd Goldwasser <lloyd@goldhost.lscf.ucsb.edu> wrote: >In article <2p91uc$9rq@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M >Crawford) writes: > >> I would love a Dvorak keyboard, for example, but don't know where I >> might get one... > >Keep your old keyboard, and just use Keyboard.app to redefine which >letters come out of which keys. It's a godd incentive for touch >typing (of course, Dvorak layout is so nice that you don't need >to look at the keyboard anyway :-) > >I'd be glad to send my .keymapping file with my own, improved variant >of Dvorak . . . > > If you also have an intel system, you could purchase an official IBM "click" keyboard which has key caps that pull off. It's very easy to swap them and create the keyboard layout you _really_ want! It's a great keyboard. Varun
From: sandrac@unixg.ubc.ca (Sandra Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Do not buy a Quantum PD1800s for use with NextStep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 21:46:09 -0800 Organization: University of British Columbia Message-ID: <sandrac-230494214609@port40.annex1.net.ubc.ca> References: <2p6lq2$a1r@nntp2.stanford.edu> <dcodeConB46.CLy@netcom.com> I have found Quantum to be the the least helpful of the HD companies, on the other hand I have had lots of problems with Micropolis but they are the most helpful... They even have a cube in the tech room !
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD-ROM player problem - help is needed (desparately) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 24 Apr 1994 05:43:31 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <2pd0u3$524@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> References: <2omm7t$bcp@math.mps.ohio-state.edu> <2ooafs$42j@steffi.demon.co.uk> : A number of things come to mind. Are you using Intel? If so I _don't : think_ CDPlayer works with Intel.. : Also, you don't say exactly when you insert the disc... You should : only be inserting the disk when the Panel pops up after CDPlayer.app : is running. (This assumes you _are_ on Motorolla because I believe : CDPlayer.app only works on Motorolla) CDPlayer.app works fine with my Intel machine ... Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org> Subject: Re: Build from DAT drive? Message-ID: <1994Apr24.105757.3315@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <Ahi93s_00iV1IBMp5m@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 10:57:57 GMT In article <Ahi93s_00iV1IBMp5m@andrew.cmu.edu> Chris Wei-Tae Kim <ck32+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > Hi all. I just invested ~$1000 for a SCSI DAT drive for a backup source > for a PC. Now that I think about it, I can probably use it to build NS > intel from scratch. If that's is possible, it would be so wonderful. > Then I can sell the CD-ROM and get some money back. Wouldn't it be > great? The question I have is the following. Please any one who has an > experience in this area help me!!! > > 1) I probably have to build a boot floppy but the bootfloopy script on > ftp is written for black hardware(it uses 2.88 medium). How would I make > a boot floppy for intel? > 2) Upon making a bootfloppy successfully, I have to mount the tape drive > and restore files. As I understand, /dev/* are not files, thus cannot be > restored. (Just do it!) but how? > > Please help....thank you. He probably meant "sell the CD-ROM drive', now didn't you Chris ? Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ror@netcom.com (Thomas P. Copley) Subject: Re: Viper-PCI NXBench Message-ID: <rorCorKyx.FGo@netcom.com> Organization: Arlington Courseware References: <1994Apr22.110208.22210@flens.syd.de> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 12:49:45 GMT Would someone with some understanding of these figures be so kind as to give us a comparative analysis? How does this card compare, based on these figures, to the ATI GUP card, the S3 cards, etc. Thanks, Zach Stefan Preuss (daisy!stefan) wrote: : Hi, : we just tested the new WeitekP9000 Driver with a Viper-PCI Card ( : ASUS-DX/2 Motherboard ). : NXBench: : 1152*900 1024*786 : 555 8bw : ----------------------------- : Line 0,77 1,11 : Arc/Bezier 0,74 1,08 : Fill 0,52 1,15 : Transform 1,45 1,79 : Composite 0,65 0,89 : Userpath 1,66 2,09 : Text 0,54 1,16 : Window 0,41 0,80 : ------------ : 0,84 1,25 : Stefan : : -- : Stefan Preuss stefan@daisy.syd.de NeXT mail welcome : PGP public key on request -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas P. Copley ror@netcom.com GO-PHER-IT WORKSHOP Arlington Courseware
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diamond Viper is Cool! Date: 24 Apr 1994 06:52:31 -0700 Organization: Pigdog Journal Message-ID: <2pdtiv$t3l@crl.crl.com> Summary: Diamond Viper is Great, and BTW, what refresh rates can I use? Keywords: Daimond, Viper, NEC, 4FG, Refresh My first impressions of the Diamond Viper are good. I replaced my ATI GUP card with one mainly so I could do 32 bit color with NEXTSTEP. Overall, there doesn't seem to be much speed difference between the two cards. The main benefits of the Viper are that it supports more resolutions (and higher ones), more color depth, and higher refresh rates. You can go up to 80Hz at 1024x768, which must be rock solid, although I have never seen it. The color on the Viper is excellent. 32-bit color at 800x600 is really crisp and stable. Finally, my NEXTSTEP system has better graphics than my Windows system. Here's a question: What refresh rates can I use with the NEC 4FG monitor? I can't seem to figure it out from reading the manual. I just got a Diamond Viper VLB, which seems to support all sorts of modes...many more than the 4FG can handle, such as 1280x1024 at 72Hz, and 1600xsomething at 60Hz. These are the ones I'm most interested in, and they SEEM to work: 1024x768 at 70Hz 1024x768 at 72Hz 1024x768 at 75Hz The one I'm most concerned about is the 75Hz one. It does seem to work. The picture is fine (excellent, in fact), but I would hate to run it in said mode for while and then have my monitor fry out on me. 1024x768 at 80Hz does NOT work on the 4FG. I know that because the monitor went wacko when I tried it. Is the fact that 75hz works at all a good indication that my monitor supports it? Thanks, Zach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: New SCSI Driver For PCI Message-ID: <MATTHEW.94Apr24131420@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk> From: matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk (Matthew Seaman) Date: 24 Apr 1994 12:14:19 GMT References: <2p4bor$sto@spool.mu.edu> Distribution: world Organization: The Blue Anenome Ontological Association In-reply-to: alec@carie.dental.mu.edu's message of 20 Apr 1994 22:53:15 GMT >>>>> "Alec" == Alec Ellsworth <alec@carie.dental.mu.edu> writes: Alec> Using this driver will give you *UNBELIEVABLE* I/O performance Alec> (considering that NS doesn't support synchronous SCSI). Hmmm... This is something that has been puzzling me for a while. I know that you can't use synchronous SCSI on a *boot* disk, at least on Black hardware --- simply because one of the early parts of the boot process can't cope with synchronous mode. But is that true for *all* disks? I have the feeling that the standard SCSI on black machines actually can cope with synchronous mode, but you can only use it on non-boot disks. What the situation is with white hardware, I have no idea. Would anyone who knows care to comment? Cheers, Matthew -- Matthew Seaman <Matthew.Seaman@dyson.ox.ac.uk> Non-NeXT mail <matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk> NeXT mail Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory, S. Parks Rd, Oxford, OX1 3QR, England Tel +44 (0)865 272640 Fax +44 (0)865 272690
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New SCSI Driver For PCI Message-ID: <MATTHEW.94Apr24132007@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk> From: matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk (Matthew Seaman) Date: 24 Apr 1994 12:20:07 GMT References: <2p4bor$sto@spool.mu.edu> Distribution: world Organization: The Blue Anenome Ontological Association In-reply-to: alec@carie.dental.mu.edu's message of 20 Apr 1994 22:53:15 GMT >>>>> "Alec" == Alec Ellsworth <alec@carie.dental.mu.edu> writes: Alec> Using this driver will give you *UNBELIEVABLE* I/O performance Alec> (considering that NS doesn't support synchronous SCSI). Hmmm... This is something that has been puzzling me for a while. I know from personal experience that you can't use synchronous SCSI on a *boot* disk, at least on Black hardware --- simply because one of the early parts of the boot process can't cope with synchronous mode. But is that true for *all* disks? I have the feeling that the standard SCSI on black machines actually can cope with synchronous mode, but you can only use it on non-boot disks. What the situation is with white hardware, I have no idea. Would anyone who knows care to comment? Cheers, Matthew -- Matthew Seaman <Matthew.Seaman@dyson.ox.ac.uk> Non-NeXT mail <matthew@viriconium.ocms.ox.ac.uk> NeXT mail Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory, S. Parks Rd, Oxford, OX1 3QR, England Tel +44 (0)865 272640 Fax +44 (0)865 272690
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OmniPlex Pentium/90 has arrived!!! (more info here) Date: 24 Apr 1994 15:09:00 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2pe22c$2gs@cerberus.wsc.com> References: <CEDMAN.94Apr22224236@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94Apr22224236@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <2p9lsr$qjq@cerberus.wsc.com> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > Finally, the PC I've waited for is supported! I just got off the > phone with Dell, and here's the scoop: > > - Dell OmniPlex Pentium [60/66/90] MHz > - On board NCR PCI SCSI > - On board ATI PCI Video > - PCI/EISA bus > > BTW, where did you get that Byte review ? I received the May issue > only a few days ago and there is no word in it about the Dell > OmniPlex. > More info about the OmniPlex machine: HP 712 (Gecko) @ 60Mhz: SpecInt: 58 SpecFp: 79 Intel Pentium @ 90Mhz: SpecInt: 90 SpecFp: 72 I'm still waiting on the price... Last months issue of PC mag has the title "Hot Pentiums and 100MHz 486s" or something like that... you can find a mention in there of the Dell. The month before (I think it was April or March) of byte reviewed 54 Pentiums (or something like that). The Byte received Byte Editor's Choice as the best machine. These are the Dell (internal) benchmarks of the 90MHz OmniPlex (I received permission to post them). Without the reference benchmark, or units, they're not too useful :-). However, they do compare the graphics of this machine to the Dell DGX (JAWS video, which was, for a long time, the best graphics around even though it was only on a 50DX2) ================================================================ Power Bench Benchmarks Logo 273.09 Drystone 599.10 Color Ramps 238.39 FPoint 406.45 Draw Poly 161.38 Integer 416.74 Draw Lines 167.21 Trig 1698.25 Text Manipulation 164.81 Image Scaling 313.97 Seeking 416.62 Image Decomp 46.80 Writing 76.35 Image Composite 124.17 Seq Reads 334.41 Random Reads 274.02 50 Threats 88.54 100 Threats Must be turned off(Note 1) 341 Tensors (Compare Dell DGX at 157 Tensors) Results compared to a Dell DGX which was the fastest Intel NeXT box 6 months ago showed 157 Tensors satisfied our curiosity. Nothing official, just a check to make sure that we had something the met initial price performance requirements. Dimension XPS 486 66MHz with #9 3MB VRAM and Optiplex MVX 66MHz with #9 3MB is similar to the DGX in total Tensors. Graphics is a little slower, although still quite acceptable, and 66MHz vs. 50 for DGX is a little faster. All are viable NeXTstep solutions on Dell PC's. ==================================================================== So, it looks like the OmniPlex's PCI video blows away all the Dell competition, and by a large margin. When I finally get the thing, I'll post to the net as to what my experiences are. - darcy
From: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" Monitor? Which is the best? Date: 24 Apr 1994 15:12:10 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Disclaimer: The views represented within this posting are not necessarily those held by WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <2pe28a$2gt@cerberus.wsc.com> Well, I'm considering buying a 21" monitor. It's hard to purchase these things sight unseen, so I'd like to get some feedback from the net. If I was forced to buy a monitor without knowing more than what I know right now, I'd probably buy the NEC 6FGp. Just because NEC monitors seem to be pretty good. Can someone tell me what the 'p' means in the name? Also, what about monitors from: - ViewSonic - Nanao - Sony I would probably like a Trinitron tube... however, I'm most concerned about picture crispness, and not getting headaches. - darcy
From: emarshal@mason1.gmu.edu (Eric Marshall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT has released the Viper PCI Driver (ftp.next.com) Date: 22 Apr 1994 16:09:42 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2p8ss6$o2o@portal.gmu.edu> References: <2otuhe$r7q@inxs.concert.net> <2p2u6g$11t@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org) wrote: : Sounds very nice! Can anyone run NXBench on it? Just to get : a first impression? I have a Micron 66 MHz Pentium on a PCI bus running the released Viper driver and here are my NXBench results: Dhrystone: 96153 VAX MIPS: 61 NXFactor: 0.78 Eric Marshall EMI Software Engineering 903 Dunbarton Court Herndon, Virginia 22070 (703) 787-0834
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Subject: Re: UUCP and high speed connections: HELP! Message-ID: <CortA9.HtJ@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> Sender: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. References: <1994Apr22.023819.5715@hot.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 15:49:20 GMT Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes >Anyone who is using UUCP on NEXTSTEP should be running the GNU >Taylor UUCP. The stock NeXT UUCP is an ancient, slow, hard to >configure, hard to maintain, not so secure version that doesn't >work well. How's that for anti-praise? > >You can obtain the source code to GNU Taylor UUCP from >ftp.uu.net:/networking/uucp. I don't suppose we could convince UUNET to use Taylor UUCP? Last I heard, they were against Taylor because it was GNU. NeXT isn't they only company using ancient software. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca) `Some praise at morning what they blame at night; But always think the last opinion right.' - Alexander Pope
From: cohen@andy.bu.edu (Andrew Cohen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: color laptop Date: 24 Apr 1994 22:31:02 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <2perv6$f88@news.bu.edu> I have a fair amount of money to spend on a laptop in the next three weeks, and am trying to find one that will support NS in color. Does any one have suggestions? Thanks
From: mara@tamuts.tamu.edu (Margaret Helmuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.music Subject: Stealth DAI 2400 for NeXT Date: 25 Apr 1994 01:59:29 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2pfpoh$lj8@tamuts.tamu.edu> If anyone is interested in ordering a Stealth box for sound conversion for the NeXT, please email me. They are willing to make 10 for $550. each. We have 5 orders, and want to find 5 more to be able to order the 10 minimum. Mara Helmuth mara@silvertone.princeton.edu mara@jing.tamu.edu (sometimes works) mara@tamuts.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Ethernet Interface for HP printer... Message-ID: <dgursky.767234717@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 00:45:17 GMT I have an HP 1200C printer that I want to add to my local Ethernet. Does anyone know of an Ethernet / TCP/IP board that I can install in this box to do this? I know we've asked this question about the LaserJet 4 and I'm guessing the same product that works in the 4 will work in the 1200, as the slots in both printers use HP's MIO standard. Thanks! -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 608-2144 Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 495-3036
From: mat@cag.lcs.mit.edu (Mat Hostetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will the NeXT 21" monitor work with any NS/I boxes? Date: 25 Apr 1994 01:31:44 GMT Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pf6i0$j44@GRAPEVINE.LCS.MIT.EDU> I'm considering purchasing a fast Pentium machine to replace my trusty NeXTstation Color. I've got one of those amazing 21" Hitachi monitors and I'd like to use it on my new machine. Is this feasible? Here's some information about my monitor, from some old email: NeXT 21" Megapixel display 68 MHz non-interlaced 75 dpi 1120 x 832 resolution The monitor is not a multisync, and apparently only accepts sync on green. -Mat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs From: yong@iitmax.iit.edu (Yong Yoo) Subject: About Adaptec 1542B driver Message-ID: <1994Apr25.012721.11944@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Mon, 25 Apr 94 01:27:21 GMT I've read someone ordering a 1542cf driver for NS3.2 that will recognize drive bigger than a gig from NeXT. I've been waiting for very long time and I bet I am not the only one who is either. My question is... DID NeXT released a driver that will recognize drive that is bigger than a gig for Adaptec 1542B,C,CF (whatever) or just CF? If this is the driver that will recognize drive bigger than a gig, do I need a New bios from Adaptec to support the new driver from NeXT? ( I have 1542B and I've ordered the bios from adaptec to support the drive that is bigger than a gig.) Another question is... Are other SCSI controllers have same type of problem? I am specially interested on DPT card, since it allowes to have cache. thanks in advance Yong Yoo
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: About Adaptec 1542B driver Date: 24 Apr 1994 21:56:07 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2pf7vn$bu@search01.news.aol.com> References: <1994Apr25.012721.11944@iitmax.iit.edu> In article <1994Apr25.012721.11944@iitmax.iit.edu>, yong@iitmax.iit.edu (Yong Yoo) writes: >I've read someone ordering a 1542cf driver for NS3.2 that will recognize >drive bigger than a gig from NeXT. I've been waiting for very >long time and I bet I am not the only one who is either. My question >is... DID NeXT released a driver that will recognize drive that is bigger >than a gig for Adaptec 1542B,C,CF (whatever) or just CF? If this is the >driver that will recognize drive bigger than a gig, do I need a New bios >from Adaptec to support the new driver from NeXT? >( I have 1542B and I've ordered the bios from adaptec to support >the drive that is bigger than a gig.) >Another question is... Are other SCSI controllers have same type of problem? > am specially interested on DPT card, since it allowes to have cache. > Yes, the new driver will work with the extended bios translation scheme on the 1542 CF for boot disks larger than 1 gig. If you're not using the drive as a boot disk then you don't need the new driver to use all the disk. Partition the disk with fdisk using the -u or -useAllSectors flag (I don't remember which is correct - one goes with fdisk and the other with disk; check the manpages for proper usage); that will allow you to ignore the Adaptec bios' limitation of 1 gig, except on a boot disk where the bios is needed to boot from the disk. Jeff trestrail@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gumby@cygnus.com (D. V. Henkel-Wallace) Subject: HELP! My station won't power up Message-ID: <GUMBY.94Apr24204520@cygnus.com> Sender: news@cygnus.com Organization: Cygnus Support, Cambridge, MA USA Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 04:45:20 GMT I have a regular '040 station that just wouldn't power up one morning. I swapped batteries with a cube -- that cube still works, but the station stays dead. I'm online with this poached cube (all my data was on the external, fortunately), but I need to get my station up and running. Where do I turn? Do I call Bell Atlantic? I'm just a guy with a machine, not some big company with many. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, d
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: t93074@mail.vitech.fi (Jani Miettinen) Subject: Re: 21" Monitor? Which is the best? Message-ID: <1994Apr25.054308.20043@mail.vitech.fi> Organization: Vaasa Institute of Technology References: <2pe28a$2gt@cerberus.wsc.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 05:43:08 GMT Darcy Brockbank (samurai@hasc.ca) wrote: : Well, I'm considering buying a 21" monitor. It's hard : to purchase these things sight unseen, so I'd like to : get some feedback from the net. : If I was forced to buy a monitor without knowing more than : what I know right now, I'd probably buy the NEC 6FGp. Just : because NEC monitors seem to be pretty good. : Can someone tell me what the 'p' means in the name? Also, : what about monitors from: I'm not sure what this 'p' stands for, but maybe it stands for that "Intelligent Power Manager", which needs video that supports this feature according to DPMS of VESA. : - ViewSonic : - Nanao : - Sony : I would probably like a Trinitron tube... however, I'm most : concerned about picture crispness, and not getting headaches. Well, NEC is not Trinitron, but it's picture quality is 'awesome'. It has everything from Color Control to OptiClear Surface and from Global Purity Switch to Ergo Design... some facts about NEC6FGp: Syncronizstion Horizontal 27 kHz to 79 kHz (Automatically) Vertically 55 Hz to 90 Hz (Automatically) Resolution 1280*1024, 74Hz (non-interlaced) Video Band Width on D-SUB 75 MHz on BNC 135 MHz Active Display Are 370 mm (H) * 278 mm (V) (dependent upon the signal timing) Misconvergence Less than 0.5 mm : - darcy -- ========================= = Jani Miettinen = = t93074@mail.vitech.fi = =========================
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!! Install NS 3.2 on "older" 040-CUBE Date: 25 Apr 1994 06:52:18 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <2pfpb2$mgm@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Keywords: URGENT, 040 CUBE w. Fujitsu I am stuck with - I guess - a hardware problem and nobody here in the alps seems able to help me. I just got one of these nice cubes (040) with an old Fujitsu M2263S-512 disk in it, that was - at least over here - the standard configuration about two years ago. I had a station before with a DEC giga disk in it, went totally smooth. A hardware guy here rearranged the cube, putting in the DEC as sd0a and then sh.. started to happen. It would loose files, corrupt the netInfo and so on. So, we rearranged again setting the Fujitsu as sd0a. No good. Would not work either. So we disconnected the DEC. Still the same. I cannot even install NS 3.2 from scratch now. It gives me messages like: ../usr/bin/uul g: can t find in source FS, skipping... ../usr/lib/netinfo/English...: can t find in source FS, skipping... ..Installation failed. No space on disk: Try again. and so on. It does it with every NS CD. Someone suggested I have an electrical problem. Well, maybe. I am going to exchange all wiring now, just to be sure. Does anyone have a clue what it could be? Does anyone remember how the jumpers on the Fujitsu have to be set, for a single disk installation and for a second disk to follow? Alfred PS: It is really hard work being a NeXT addict! -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT has released the Viper PCI Driver (ftp.next.com) Date: 25 Apr 94 07:13:09 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.767257989@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <2otuhe$r7q@inxs.concert.net> <2p2u6g$11t@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <2p8ss6$o2o@portal.gmu.edu> emarshal@mason1.gmu.edu (Eric Marshall) writes: >I have a Micron 66 MHz Pentium on a PCI bus running the released >Viper driver and here are my NXBench results: > Dhrystone: 96153 > VAX MIPS: 61 > NXFactor: 0.78 The MIPS value is really nice, but I have the same NXFactor with an ATI GUP VesaLB at 1024x768 (555). Is burst mode supported for transfer to the Viper? Regards, Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need HW advice for NeXT PC Message-ID: <1994Apr25.015629.1@nebula> From: itsmrwk@nebula.syscon.hii.com Date: 25 Apr 94 01:56:29 -0700 Organization: SYSCON Corporation I am in the process of buying a new Gateway 2000 P5-66 system and need some hardware advice. With my old 386 I basically ran just DOS/Windows, but with the new system I would like to experiment with NeXTstep, NT, Linux, and maybe OS/2. The following, somewhat long, message is a series of questions about hardware to support the O/Ses listed above and about supporting multiple O/Ses on the same PC. Ideally, over time as I can afford to add disk space and purchase the software, I would like to have a system with a boot menu from which I could boot any of the above, and maybe one or two other things that might come along. (Don't want much do I?) I have OS/2 and have used its boot manager to support multiple partitions. Unfortunately, it only supports 3 partitions. Is there a boot manager that supports more than this? I believe that NeXTstep and Linux also come with boot managers. Is this correct? Do any of these O/Ses have a problem being in a partition and sharing a physical drive with other O/Ses? The only hardware left from my old system is a NEC 3xe CD-ROM and a 16-bit NEC SCSI card. Will this work with each of these O/Ses? Do you have any suggestions on tape backup? The Colorado 250mb's are cheap but slow and very low capacity. The NEC SCSI card supports tapes so I was considering a Colorado PowerTape 1100. I have seen ads in Computer Shopper for this drive around $625. This drive will backup about 1gb with compression and none of the partitions/disks on the system will be larger than that. Is this drive supported by all of the above? What backup software would I need for each? Do you have any other suggestions that are not extremely expensive? If I decide to conserve funds, will the Colorado 250mb work on NeXTstep, Linux, and NT? The system will have 16mb of ram and a 15" monitor on it. For the O/Ses listed above, especially NeXTstep and Linux, which would be best, spending extra $'s for 32mb or for a 17" monitor? Initially, the system will have a 540mb IDE hard disk. As I can add O/Ses, I will most likely add a large SCSI disk and move the IDE disk to a secondary IDE controller and boot from the SCSI disk. Will the O/Ses listed above support both IDE and SCSI disks on the same system? For a network card I am planning to use an Intel EtherExpress 16 and for sound a Gateway 2000 16-bit Sound-Blaster compatible card. Should these cards pose any problems? Are there any News groups, BBS, WWW servers, etc that focus on supporting multiple O/Ses on a single PC? Thanks, Ron +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Ronald W. Kaltenbaugh SYSCON Corporation| |RKALTENBAUGH@SYSCON.HII.COM 1000 Thomas Jefferson St., NW| +(202) 342-4393 Washington, DC 20007+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: 21" Monitor? Which is the best? Message-ID: <Cot48L.1Aw@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <1994Apr25.054308.20043@mail.vitech.fi> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 08:43:32 GMT > > some facts about NEC6FGp: > > Syncronizstion Horizontal 27 kHz to 79 kHz (Automatically) > Vertically 55 Hz to 90 Hz (Automatically) > > Resolution 1280*1024, 74Hz (non-interlaced) > Video Band Width on D-SUB 75 MHz > on BNC 135 MHz > > Active Display Are 370 mm (H) * 278 mm (V) > (dependent upon the signal timing) > > Misconvergence Less than 0.5 mm > > : - darcy > I have one, and the biggest problem is the 79khz horizontal... Most 1280x1024 drivers will want 80 or 82.... So check with the video card and driver !! In Europe, the best alternative is the new Philips Brilliance serie. It goes up to 150hz vertical, and 82khz horizontal and supports up to 1600x1280 pixels... Hope this helps, Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland
From: <p00378@psilink.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RE: NXBench code Date: 24 Apr 1994 18:26:11 GMT Organization: GCC Message-ID: <2pedk3$ino@news.worldlink.com> How can I get the NXBench code so that I can test various configuration myself? In light of the absence of NeXTWorld, this seems to be the only prudent move remaining. Thanks in advance. Peace, James p00378@psilink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: 21" Monitor? Which is the best? In-Reply-To: samurai@hasc.ca's message of 24 Apr 1994 15:12:10 GMT To: samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Apr24132558@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2pe28a$2gt@cerberus.wsc.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 17:25:57 GMT In article <2pe28a$2gt@cerberus.wsc.com> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: Well, I'm considering buying a 21" monitor. It's hard to purchase these things sight unseen, so I'd like to get some feedback from the net. If I was forced to buy a monitor without knowing more than what I know right now, I'd probably buy the NEC 6FGp. Just because NEC monitors seem to be pretty good. Can someone tell me what the 'p' means in the name? Also, what about monitors from: - ViewSonic - Nanao - Sony I would probably like a Trinitron tube... however, I'm most concerned about picture crispness, and not getting headaches. Well, if you really want the _best_ monitor according to net.wisdom get the new Nanao F780iW. It can do 1600x1200 at 80 Hz. Recently Byte gave it what is by its standards a rave review. By all accounts its picture quality is extremely good (even compared to other Nanao monitors). The only problem with it is a list price of $4k and a street price of well over $3k (if you can even find a mail order dealer who has it in stock). Also some video cards have troubles driving this monitor at mere VGA resolution/frequency -- no problems at high resolution though. Personally, I found the price just to be too high even if the image is somewhat better than that of other high quality 21" monitors. So I'll get a NEC 6FGp. It is one of the best 21" monitors according to most tests and at <$2k mail order, its price difference with other considerably less well regarded makes is insignificant. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ossip@math.fu-berlin.de (Ossip Kaehr) Subject: HP DeskWriter 520 vs. DeskJet ? Message-ID: <3J6NB3JI@math.fu-berlin.de> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 11:25:27 GMT Hello Folks, do the DeskWriters work with a Cube?? It seems the serial interface was omitted on the new HP DeskJets, so now I was thinking if it is possible to use the DeskWriters. I assume the AppleTalk interface can be used as a serial line (?). Is there any software difference, i.e. do the PD drivers for the HP DeskJet 500 work? Ps. anybody got a real cheap NeXTLaser ? :-) Thanks for any advice, Ossip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Subject: Re: How about that Alpha port? Message-ID: <Cort4x.Hss@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> Sender: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. References: <2p6fmo$2ii@sgate.com> Distribution: na Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 15:46:08 GMT Mike Matthews writes >The DEC that I've been dealing with has been anything BUT a dinosaur. >Talk like this does no good whatsoever. I can't resist replying. DEC ships us screw drivers with their own part numbers. We got two identical Philips #2 screwdrivers with different part numbers. One was listed as "yellow", the other had no color listed. They were both yellow. They also won't ship us machines in their catalog, because while they'll sell them, that doesn't mean they make them anymore. If we cancel the order, they want a fee of 20% of list price, even though they don't have any machines with which to fill the order. DEC just lumbers along, irritating its customers. Of course, if we wanted an Alpha, they'll give us those for free. I've got two of those useless things sitting in my office. DEC's desperate for Alpha ports. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca) `Some praise at morning what they blame at night; But always think the last opinion right.' - Alexander Pope
From: monyschu@corpit.cantel.rogers.com (Mark Onyschuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NXBENCH -- DELL Omniplex 566 Date: 25 Apr 1994 13:53:38 GMT Organization: Rogers Communications Message-ID: <2pgi12$a3h@mail.Rogers.Com> Machine: DELL OmniPlex 566 CPU/Speed/Cachesize: Pentium/66/?? Videoadaptor: DELL/ATI PCI Bus Display Comment: Adaptec 1542 SCSI (no NCR SCSI controller driver *yet*) Integer Performance: 97719 dhrystones/s (62.04 MIPS) Grafics Performance: 1.0193 (NXFactor 2.0) line 0.88024 arc/bezier 0.86780 fill 0.67739 transform 2.12709 composite 0.66917 userpath 1.79213 text 0.69603 window 0.44459 (had another window up, this might be misleading) __________________________ Mach kernel version: NeXT Mach 3.2: Mon Oct 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):mk-149.30.15.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 Kernel configured for a single processor only. 1 processor is physically available. Processor type: I386 (Intel 586) Processor active: 0 Primary memory available: 32.00 megabytes. Default processor set: 55 tasks, 100 threads, 1 processors Load average: 0.20, Mach factor: 0.78
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: janna@reliant.bsd.uchicago.edu (& Ore Nugent) Subject: ISDN on black boxes? Message-ID: <1994Apr25.153901.11939@midway.uchicago.edu> Keywords: ISDN, NeXT Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 15:39:01 GMT I'm looking for a way to put a NeXTstation on an ISDN network. I think I remember somebody selling an ISDN adapter at one point; does anyone know if such a beast is still available? Thanks for any and all, Janna Ore Nugent "Tiger gotta hunt. Bird gotta fly. Biological Sciences Division Man gotta sit and wonder why, why, why. The University of Chicago Tiger gotta sleep. Bird gotta land. janna@delphi.bsd.uchicago.edu Man gotta tell himself he understand." - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Software for backup DOS with DAT Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:04:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2pgplp$458@news.service.uci.edu> I am going to get an Archive Python DAT drive for my NeXT Intel machine. I know how to do backup with dump or tar with Next, but how can I back up my DOS partitions under either DOS or Windows? Do I need any special software? Thank you. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PAS 16 and Adaptec 1542b on VESA/ISA machine, panic Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:17:26 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2pgqem$4hb@news.service.uci.edu> Here is my configiguration: 3 VESA slot, 4 ISA slot ATI Mach 32, Adaptec 1542b, Logitech bus mouse, PAS studio 16. System panics randomly, particularly when there is much CPU activity, like running a CPU intensive job. NeXT answers says the PAS 16 board may freeze the system when used with an adaptec card on a ISA machine when playing 44MHz sound. I am not playing any sound, and tried not even installing the PAS driver. The sound card is used under DOS only. But system still panics. Last night I took the sound card out, I did not encounter any panics. So I guess it is the sound card. According to NeXTAnswers, there is not this problem with an EISA bus. My questions: (1) Most EISA bus seem to have 2 VESA slots, several EISA slots and a couple of ISA slots. They still have the ISA slots on the board, will such Motherboard still have the same problem as my VESA/ISA board? Or do we need one that has no ISA slots at all? (2) The Adaptec, PAS 16, bus mouse and Fax modem all use ISA slots, can we plug them into EISA slots? -- Feng Liu Assistant Professor Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Do not buy a Quantum PD1800s for use with NextStep Date: 25 Apr 94 10:05:53 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94Apr25100553@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> References: <2p6lq2$a1r@nntp2.stanford.edu> <dcodeConB46.CLy@netcom.com> In-reply-to: dcode@netcom.com's message of Fri, 22 Apr 1994 05:26:30 GMT Is your Quantum PD1800s making lots of noise when it is busy? Mine will sound "click, click, ...", very noisy, when the NS is booting or reading large files. I have found the noise is from the green LED on the HD. Everytime when the LED flashes, it will "click". I wouldn't buy this HD again, if the noise is common to all Quantum PD1800s. Anybody can make a suggestion on fast and QUIET SCSI HDs(>1GB)? ZZ
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best NS/I Notebook with Doc-station? Date: 25 Apr 1994 16:44:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2pgs1q$5kk@news.service.uci.edu> Here is what I am searching: (1) A nice notebook, mono only but runs NS with 16MB memory, 300+Mb disk space, DX2 66 CPU or probably the new DX4 100, which I heard actually consumes less power than the DX2 66 and has less heat problem. Relatively long battery time, say around 4 hours. Local bus video not necessary since NS does not support it. (2) However, I'd like to have a Doc-station with at least one VESA bus so that I can use an ATI Mach32 or other video card and a large color monitor at home. I looked at a notebook called Sager, it has a local bus on the notebook but none in the Docking-station, plus the battery time is only 2 hours, which is a bit short. Anybody has experience with others? Thanks. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about that Alpha port? Date: 25 Apr 1994 06:26:15 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: na Message-ID: <2pfnq7$eeh@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2okove$1vk@cobber.cord.edu> <2oonvd$d96@inxs.concert.net> <BWH.94Apr16114504@beach.cis.ufl.edu> <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <2p6fmo$2ii@sgate.com> matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) writes: >In article <2opps0$8v2@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes: >>Since they must have spent millions and millions developing the alpha, >>I'd think that a mere $10 million more would be worth it to sell some >>more machines. How many alphas could they have sold? NT is pretty >>much a disaster, osf/1, didn't they shut down? OpenVMS I would think >>would be the largest seller of alphas. Have they even sold 50k of the >>alphas? I'm sure they've spent tons on fabs for the alpha. >What's this "didn't they shut down" stuff? The amount of disinformation that >flies around Usenet is incredible. DEC has committed itself to OSF/1, and I >for one *LIKE IT*. Kinda like NEXTSTEP, no? No one's buying it, but it's a >good product. Of course, there could be some dispute about whether or not >anyone's buying it. The slimey DEC salesman that was on campus last Friday promised me that DEC had just made a $300M sale to DoD that was based on the fact that the 486's that they were buying would be upgradable to Alphas, and that NEXTSTEP would run on the Alphas. So, he claimed that the Alpha would run NEXTSTEP natively very soon (and they have given money to NeXT to make it so). Let me re-iterate that this guy was SLIMEY. -- David Lemson University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: NS/FIP and ISA and >16MB RAM? Message-ID: <1994Apr24.015024.21080@radical2.radical.com> Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 01:50:24 GMT Does NS/FIP on an ISA system properly handle more than 16 MB of RAM? By properly, I mean, do the device drivers that do DMA (i.e. Adaptec 1542, Pro Audio Spectrum, etc.) double buffer or something to break the 16MB barrier? Thanks. -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 25 Apr 1994 14:02:38 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2ph0ju$e0j@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Much of this information is also available using the World Wide Web, <http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html> NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online --------------------------------------------------------- A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon as they become available. NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online --------------------------------------------------------- The NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is now available for product literature and pricing from NEXTSTEP developers. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. Comp.Sys.Next.Software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. Comp.Lang.Objective-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO <your-address> If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] docking stations? Date: 25 Apr 1994 14:19:58 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940425201713.231AACUy.malc@jeeves> Does anybody know of a good docking station for NEXTSTEP? Do any portables yet support > 640x480 2bit resolution? Rumours of any...?! Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: FZUST@ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Zeus) Subject: Adaptec 2842 Message-ID: <FZUST.10.000BDAB7@ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> Summary: Adaptec 2842 driver Sender: news@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (news) Organization: NCR WPD-Clemson Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 16:51:10 GMT Does anybody know anything about using an Adaptec 2842 VLB card with NS3.2? Under dos this card screams. 10MB/sec fast SCSI. Even w/ 64 MB my machine is slow from the IDE. Is there a way to configure the 2842 to appear like a 1540? Help Fred Fred.zust@clemson.sc.ncr.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stanifor@curie.cs.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Gresley Staniford-Chen) Subject: Re: HELP! My station won't power up Message-ID: <Cou15t.D5z@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis References: <GUMBY.94Apr24204520@cygnus.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 20:34:41 GMT D. V. Henkel-Wallace (gumby@cygnus.com) wrote: : I have a regular '040 station that just wouldn't power up one morning. : I swapped batteries with a cube -- that cube still works, but the : station stays dead. : I'm online with this poached cube (all my data was on the external, : fortunately), but I need to get my station up and running. Where do I : turn? Do I call Bell Atlantic? I'm just a guy with a machine, not : some big company with many. : Any advice would be greatly appreciated! : Thanks, : d My station died with a bang a couple of months back. It turned out to be the power supply. If your machine is utterly dead and unresponsive - no hard disk, nothing - your problem is quite likely to be the same. Power supplies are some of the most vulnerable parts of most computer systems. There are other possible reasons though. I was able to get a new power supply from Bell Atlantic and my machine was fine again. I worked with a local computer repair company to do the diagnosis and installation - you may want to do the same (look under Computer Repair in the yellow pages). You are unlikely to find somebody who deals with NeXTs, but perhaps a company that is at least familiar with workstations rather than just PCs. I had to liase closely with the company I used (eg - they didn't know of Bell Atlantic). It worked out fine though and I only paid them for an hour of labor on top of the $175 cost of the part. On the other hand, if you feel comfortable diagnosing the problem for yourself, you can save yourself the cost and uncertainty of working with some other entity. Hope this info is helpful. Stuart. stuarts@landau.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) Subject: [Motorola] Phosphor chromiticities for NeXT Trinitron Message-ID: <Cou5y8.Iw6@news.otago.ac.nz> Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff) Organization: University of Otago Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 22:18:07 GMT Hi Evryone, I am looking for CIE chromaticity values for the phosphors used in the 17" NeXT Trinitron monitor. Thanks, Alastair -- Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347 Computer Science Department, | Fax +64-3-479-8529 University of Otago, | Dunedin, | alastair@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
From: jens@metaworks.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI-Chip anyone? Date: Mon, 25 Apr 94 21:57:43 CDT Organization: MetaWorks Gesellschaft fuer elektronische und audiovisuelle Medien mbH Message-ID: <2ph8m9$r21@mwnext.metaworks.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello there, I've got an Colorturbostation. But now, you guess it, the SCSI Chip appears to be damaged. Internal SCSI is functioning. So I guess it would be enough to just swap the SCSI-Chip and the two external driver-chips. On these Chips the are the following codes: SCSI: NCR 53C90A CP 02789 609-3400 475 9227N Driver: Fil.MAG 23Z109SM TWN9229 Has anybody an idea, were i can get these chips? I'd prefer to swap the chips over swapping the whole board. Please answer per E-mail. Does it make sence to post a summary? Thank you very much, Jens
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Best NS/I Notebook with Doc-station? Message-ID: <Cou43v.MG4@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <2pgs1q$5kk@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 21:41:56 GMT I've been using an Austin now for about a month. No real complaints other than some silly things that I knew before I got it. Mine is the color active matrix which gives me a life expectency of about 4 minutes. It's fun to have the color while playing solitaire under windoze while driving in the car though. It's a DX2/66 with 16MB (32MB max), 324MB drive (550MB max) and comes in a monochrome version as well. I do think that both color and mono versions are Western Digital local bus video. No idea on how long the mono's last on battery. It's just as fast as my HP Vectra 66/XM with 16MB, so it's a matter of weeks before I'll add the second 16MB for the 32MB total. I have an *1542CF and EtherExpress Combo in the docking station and dock/undock without reconfiguring (rebooting of course). * my current dock is having problems with the Adaptec, but Austin is working to fix this. peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@snac.cfa.org
From: straffin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: About Adaptec 1542B driver Date: 25 Apr 1994 23:16:59 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2phj1b$pii@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Apr25.012721.11944@iitmax.iit.edu> In article <1994Apr25.012721.11944@iitmax.iit.edu>, Yong Yoo <yong@iitmax.iit.edu> wrote: >I've read someone ordering a 1542cf driver for NS3.2 that will recognize >drive bigger than a gig from NeXT. I've been waiting for very >long time and I bet I am not the only one who is either. My question >is... DID NeXT released a driver that will recognize drive that is bigger >than a gig for Adaptec 1542B,C,CF (whatever) or just CF? If this is the >driver that will recognize drive bigger than a gig, do I need a New bios >from Adaptec to support the new driver from NeXT? >( I have 1542B and I've ordered the bios from adaptec to support >the drive that is bigger than a gig.) Here's the lowdown on 154x support: 1542B 1542C 1542CF 3.1 2 3 1 3.2 2 3 2 3.2+update 3 3 3 where: 1 = not supported 2 = supported for < 1GB drives only 3 = supported for all drives The update has been available from NeXTanswers since February (documents 1520 and 1521); I believe NeXT technical support will also send it to you on a floppy for free. If you need to use the update as a loadable boot driver (i.e. to install), you'll probably need NeXTanswer 1541 as well. The 1542B requires that BIOS/firmware upgrade you mention to support greater-than-1GB drives, even with the new driver. >Another question is... Are other SCSI controllers have same type of problem? >I am specially interested on DPT card, since it allowes to have cache. The DPT cards aren't susceptible to these problems regarding Extended BIOS Translation; however they generally require recent firmware to work. Might want to check NeXTanswers. Ethan
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FIP Printer Startup after Startup? Date: 25 Apr 1994 23:46:38 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2phkou$4ll@news.mic.ucla.edu> How do I start up the printer on a NS/FIP system if the printer was accidentally off at bootup time? I have looked through /etc/rc*, but couldn't find what I need to do. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: 21" Monitor? Which is the best? Message-ID: <CotprI.8xC@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <2pe28a$2gt@cerberus.wsc.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 16:28:29 GMT In article <2pe28a$2gt@cerberus.wsc.com> samurai@hasc.ca (Darcy Brockbank) writes: > > If I was forced to buy a monitor without knowing more than > what I know right now, I'd probably buy the NEC 6FGp. Just > because NEC monitors seem to be pretty good. > > Can someone tell me what the 'p' means in the name? Also, > what about monitors from: > I use the NEC 6FG and 6FGp, and like both. It also let's me select between viewing a NeXTSTATION color or an intel box. The "p" stands professional, as in pro-graphics designer/dtp types, and has better color calibration. If you are just doing day to day use, the 6FG is fine. -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Rob Tibshirani) Subject: Re: PAS 16 and Adaptec 1542b on VESA/ISA machine, panic Message-ID: <Cou9Mv.DJ6@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2pgqem$4hb@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 23:37:43 GMT In article <2pgqem$4hb@news.service.uci.edu> Fliu@uci.edu writes: >Here is my configiguration: >3 VESA slot, 4 ISA slot >ATI Mach 32, Adaptec 1542b, Logitech bus mouse, PAS studio 16. >System panics randomly, particularly when there is much CPU >activity, like running a CPU intensive job. >NeXT answers says the PAS 16 board may freeze the system when >used with an adaptec card on a ISA machine when playing 44MHz sound. >I am not playing any sound, and tried not even installing the PAS driver. >The sound card is used under DOS only. But system still panics. >Last night I took the sound card out, I did not encounter any panics. >So I guess it is the sound card. >According to NeXTAnswers, there is not this problem with an EISA bus. >My questions: I do not believe that the PAS 16 will work properly when booting from a SCSI drive controlled by an Adaptec. It works fine on my system when I boot from an IDE drive. It doesn't if I move it to a similar system booting from the Adaptec. What we really need is SoundBlaster() support. I don't understand how NeXT would fail to support what is the standard PC sound board by far. This has been going on for a while now. I realize sound is not on a high priority list, and I wouldn't expect it to be. However a lot of people want voice mail, sound with games, etc...On a PC, these users are used to SB() cards. It should be noted that the PD driver for the SB16 will not work on an ISA system. I suppose the only reliable sound card is the WSS, which is not exactly a wonder of a card. It's very disappointing this whole sound issue. >(1) Most EISA bus seem to have 2 VESA slots, several EISA slots and a >couple of ISA slots. >They still have the ISA slots on the board, will such Motherboard still >have the same problem as my VESA/ISA board? >Or do we need one that has no ISA slots at all? > >(2) The Adaptec, PAS 16, bus mouse and Fax modem all use ISA slots, >can we plug them into EISA slots? Who knows... The driver kit is supposed to make producing drivers faster. This just does not appear to be the case. Even OS/2 has a reasonable set of drivers for various peripherals. I'm not complaining as I love NS. But I also love sound. At this point I suppose I can simply return to Windows and await SB16 support. Moreover I also have a WaveBlaster. It's simply wonderful. I am not holding my breath for support for WaveTable support. NeXT/Intel is 1000 years behind in sound support. I'd have to say the C64 is still far ahead of them. But then again this Mission Critical Obsession is taking its toll. What a lot of nonsense. >Feng Liu >Assistant Professor >Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering >University of California, Irvine >Irvine, CA 92717 -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT) [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <hw3uKVW.jhepp@delphi.com> Control: cancel <hw3uKVW.jhepp@delphi.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 94 00:33:15 -0500 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <JYwvTFr.jhepp@delphi.com> cancel <hw3uKVW.jhepp@delphi.com>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: jrpenrod@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (John R. Penrod) Subject: Large Monochrome Monitor Recommendations Message-ID: <1994Apr25.032808.16671@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 03:28:08 GMT I'd like to purchase a nice black and white or gray scale full-page or dual-page monitor for my 486DX-33 machine. I am currently running OS/2 and have considered adding NeXTSTEP. Does anyone have a recommendation or know of a published product review? As far as I know, PC Magazine hasn't reviewed large monochrome monitors since 1990. Thanks, John Penrod
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Su #################################################################### #################################################################### From: schmidt@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Will Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DECpc XL with Intel CPU Date: 26 Apr 1994 14:54:12 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA 24061 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pj9uk$338@server.cs.vt.edu> References: <2oskj1$6ai@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> <1994Apr21.141414.23577@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> > It works on XL, I've been using NSFIP on XL > for months... Francois: We are trying to get nextstep 3.2 to load on a DEC XL 560 and have been having problems with the machine recognising the CD-ROM drive. It has an NCR SDMS version 3.0 SCSI controller and a Toshiba CD-ROM. Here's what happens: We boot the PC off the nextstep installation disk. When it scans the SCSI bus, we get the message: No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found. Did you have any problems like this when you were installing on your machine? Did you have to use a separate SCSI driver other than the ones that came with nextstep? Any help will be greatly appreciated. - Will Schmidt schmidt@cs.vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) Subject: Re: 68060 Message-ID: <CovIE0.40p@cs.uiuc.edu> Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL References: <1994Apr25.011715.40375@Lehigh.EDU> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 15:44:24 GMT In article <1994Apr25.011715.40375@Lehigh.EDU> smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Flash!) writes: > I have a question for those owning black hardware. I just read that > Moto will be selling the 68060 (lots of 10k) for $263... > > Will there be any upgrade, by any company for black hardware? > Who, how much... ? Is the 60 pin compatible with the 40 ? > > Appologies if this has been covered already. > > > Thanks for any info, > > smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu > > > -- > > > smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu -- I would also be very interested to hear again about this project to make a 68060 card for the NeXT computers. I'm in charge of a net of 18 NeXT and we may be interested to get that card. Best regards, - Eric --- "The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be." - Paul Valery _____________________________________________________________________ | Eric de la Tribouille | Advanced Collaborative Systems Lab. eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu | Department of Computer Science | University of Illinois at | Urbana-Champaign | 1304W. Springfield Avenue NeXT-Mail very welcome ! | Urbana, ILL 61801, USA ?;?)/ TOMORROW's TOOLS TODAY ! _____________________________________________________________________ Opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dimming monitors Message-ID: <1994Apr26.111650.62925@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> From: stubbs@cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs) Date: 26 Apr 94 11:16:49 CDT References: <1994Apr22.210945.23859@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Organization: University of KS CS Dept In article <1994Apr22.210945.23859@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: >I have a MegaPixel monitor on my NeXTCube that has dimmed down to the >point where it was virtually unreadable. I powered off the system, >unscrewed the back of the monitor, and with a jeweller's screwdriver, >adjusted the "white level" screw counterclockwise until it stopped (about >1/6 of a turn). Suddenly the monitor is beautiful, the way it was when I >bought it. It was the easiest thing in the world. >I realize this is probably a temporary improvement. In fact, I would like >to hear from others who have done this how long to expect this newly >acquired brightness to last. >Also, I have spoken with a company which will sell me a replacement tube >for $195.00 Canadian. They say I can easily have a technician install this >tube. This seems a cheaper alternative to buying a new monitor from >Atlantic Bell. >I just wanted to share this information with others who might have the >same problem of a dimming monitor. > >Bill anderson I adjusted the cutoff in one of our next monitors, and it's bright but it has lost some of the sharpness and has some 'ghosting'. I suspect something else might be off. What is the number of this company with the replacement tubes? stubbs@cs.ukans.edu
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting a Macintosh to print on a NeXT (68040) printer Date: 26 Apr 1994 16:25:59 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <2pjfan$8ig@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <1994Apr19.174715.15149@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <2p1tic$6hm@panix.com> <2p2d4b$g58@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <gcrow-250494143907@198.99.205.85> In article <gcrow-250494143907@198.99.205.85>, George Crow <gcrow@supermac.com> wrote: >I have used this software both on a NeXTstation color and NS mono system >with good luck. The print server works only with Apple's pre 8.0 print >drivers. This will depend on what version of the product you're using. When I first bought uShare from IPT, I got 1.09 (NS3.x) and it works great with LaserWriter 8.1.1. Recently, I upgraded to uShare 1.17 with Partner and it doesn't print properly with LW 8.1.1 (but it does work with LW 7.x). But, I got it to work by having both 1.09 and 1.17 installed on my Cube (NS3.2) with some symlinks running from 1.17 to 1.09. If you're on the same boat, symlink the following files from 1.17 to 1.09: ~partner/bin/lwq ~partner/bin/lwp.x ~partner/bin/lws.x Both versions of uShare must be installed and activated (with different keys). Ken -- Kenneth K.F. Lui, klui@corp.hp.com 3000 Hanover Street M/S 20BJ Corporate Financial Systems Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA Core Application Technologies 1.415.857.3230 Fax 1.415.852.8026
From: rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64 bits, who needs them ? Date: 26 Apr 1994 18:42:45 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Distribution: na Message-ID: <2pjnb5$oku@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <CEDMAN.94Apr20224453@capitalist.princeton.edu> Carl Edman writes >> In article <2p44di$bdk@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> >> rainer@wmax62.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) writes: >> PA RISC is (as far as I know basically) 32 bit >> >> is NeXTStep 64-bit-safe ? >> >> I believe, Nick is right. They're to####################################################################
#################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos) Subject: Re: [intel] docking stations? Message-ID: <dcodeCovyE4.LE8@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <940425201713.231AACUy.malc@jeeves> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 21:30:04 GMT In article <940425201713.231AACUy.malc@jeeves>, Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> wrote: >Does anybody know of a good docking station for NEXTSTEP? > >Do any portables yet support > 640x480 2bit resolution? >Rumours of any...?! A friend of mine just got a portable from a company called Austin. It seems to be a kick-ass portable. 486 DX/2 66 Mhz, 16 Megs ram, 500 Meg hard drive. Beautiful 8 bit color (640x480 only). Feels just as fast as my desktop machine! No idea if it runs NeXTSTEP, but the hardware seems pretty generic so I wouldn't be surprised if it did. It support up to 1024x768 on an external monitor and has a docking station as well that can hold 2 ISA cards. Actually he hasn't gotten the docking station yet, so I don't know exactly what it's like. I'll have to convince him to let me try to install NeXTSTEP on it! If I do, I'll let you know how it goes. Paul -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- dCode | dcode@netcom.com | NeXT Mail Happily Accepted Paul Marcos | (415) 960-3259 (voice & fax)|
From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AHA-274x Driver Availability ? Date: 26 Apr 1994 10:52:19 +0200 Organization: The ministry of silly hostnames Message-ID: <2piko3$40d@drdhh.hanse.de> References: <1994Apr21.005953.43712@urz.unibas.ch> kohut1@urz.unibas.ch writes: >Does somebody know when the driver for Adaptec 274x-Series will be available ? >Or is there some Beta-driver somewhere ? >E-Mail : kohut1@urz.unibas.ch As far as I know, someone here in Hamburg is working on it and the word says it will be free. He will post if beta-testing is in sight. Regards, Bjoern -- bkr@drdhh.hanse.de - Bjoern Kriews - Stormsweg 6 - D-22085 Hamburg [76] - FRG DATA 451 Unknown mail system trouble.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 21:48:31 EDT From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Message-ID: <94116.214831HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ND Cube for Sale Hi... This is a repost of my ND-for-sale offer. Here are the specs etc. NeXT Cube 25Mhz-040, 16 Mb RAM MegaPixel Monitor (no burn in) NeXTDimension NTSC with 16Mb RAM (4x4) 330Mb Fujitsu HD (3 more years warranty) 210Mb Connor HD PLI SuperFloppy 2.88 and cable Dove Fax Modem and cable and driver NeXT 256Mb OD, working fine, and 4 OD's (including system 2.1) NeXTStep 3.0 CD NeXT 400 dpi laser printer (working fine) and cables Old style keyboard and mouse (working fine) may also include ViewSonic 7 17" monitor Software Adobe Illustrator Frame 3 Stone Create, Stone DataPhile, Stone 3dReality Pinnacle Transfer MicroPhone Adobe Plus Pack Void Diagram 2 Sybase Lisp Mathematica 2 first 3 JANA disks lots of shareware and freeware on ODs I reserve the right to not sell the system if I don't get any reasonable offers. Please reply to Rob Harrap Geological Sciences Queen's University Kingston, Ontario harrapr@qucdn.queensu.ca harrap@geol.queensu.ca
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dimension XPS port problems Date: 27 Apr 1994 03:38:25 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <2pkmnh$p2d@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I just loaded 3.2 onto a Dell dimension XPS P60 with a Pentium, ISA, VESA Local Bus, PCI. Surprisingly, I'm up and running with little probelms EXCEPT Neither the serial ports nor the parellel port work. No printer, no modem. Next laughed, Dell is going to replace the system board (fat chance) adn then suggested I buy a card to bypass theirs. All the bios settings have been examined and experimented with. The printer worked on the DOs side, (I think, it doesn't look like I can loak DOS 6.2 onto the partition made for it but thats a separate problem.)So any clues or experiences that might help? Would buying a board with serial and parallel ports really work? advTHANKSance jcs@alumni.caltech.edu .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi) Subject: My gateway2000 4DX266V with NSFIP Message-ID: <erotandiCowC4G.G2u@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 02:26:39 GMT Hi, Any body know if NeXTSTEP for intel work with Gateway 2000 4DX266V? I bought it about a year ago and the following is the specs of my computer.... 16MBs of ram 325 mgs of hard drive. Buslogic 445s scsi adapter ( local bus) Telepath modem (14.4/9.6) ATI graphics ultra pro with 1mb Toshiba cdrom (3401) Media vision Pro audio 16.... I am not sure if the my graphics card is rev.6 though... Thanks _______________________________________________________________________ Edhi Rotandi (NeXT CrAZED) erotandi@uop.cs.uop.edu (209) 463-6985 (voice+fax) _______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Douglas Moore Subject: Suggestions for external MO drives, 230Mb+ sought Message-ID: <CovLGr.8LF@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: World Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 16:54:30 GMT -- Douglas Moore St Paul, MN 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: Re: What's the scoop on soundcards for NSI, ISA bus, Adaptek SCSI? Message-ID: <1994Apr26.193012.11817@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2p2ud6$11u@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 19:30:12 GMT In article <2p2ud6$11u@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: > Chris Roehrig writes > > > > I know the PAS doesn't coexist with the 1542 on EISA machines, but > > does it work well at 44kHz play/record on an ISA machine with an Adaptek > > 1542CF? How about at 22kHz? > Wrong. The 1542 + PAS combination works well on EISA machines, but > not on ISA machines. Furthermore, it does not depend on the 1542, my Not completely wrong. Sound works on my VESA/ISA machine --not perfectly, but almost (never a crash, sometimes a scratchiness, but rarely). Nevertheless, I completely agree that sound support in NS/I is very disappointing. And, I am not convinced by any of the arguments I've heard in explanation of why and what works and does not work. Misson-critical apps need good sound support. One of my colleagues is building a process automation application that can be much enhanced by sophisticated sound alerts. > PAS locked up the system with the DPT 2021, too. Since I moved to an > EISA/VL board, all problems disappeared. 486/VL/ISA and Pentium/PCI/ISA machines are widespread, but sound support on these systems, in my experience, is very hit-or-miss. > > > Is a Microsoft Sound System-compatible card more reliable? > This should answer someone who runs the MSS on an ISA machine. A colleague tried an MSS on a Pentium/PCI/ISA system; it was (at best) marginally better than the PAS... no crashes, but rooster.snd and glass.snd were too "scratchy" (subject to some skipping also). I wish this situation would improve. With all good wishes, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Diamond Viper and SoftPC Date: 26 Apr 1994 20:58:12 -0700 Organization: Pigdog Journal Message-ID: <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com> Summary: Does SoftPC support the Diamond Viper? Keywords: Diamond, Viper, SoftPC What gives? Since I installed a Diamond Viper VLB card in my system, SoftPC wont run anymore. It says "This session does not support full screen" and then quits. Does SoftPC support the Diamond Viper? What's the deal? Thanks, Zach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Subject: Re: 21" Monitor? Which is the best? Message-ID: <Cow8x2.5Er@athena.ulaval.ca> Sender: news@athena.ulaval.ca Organization: Universite Laval References: <2ph3fq$bs0@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 01:17:25 GMT Along the same lines, are _good_ color monitors as easy on the eyes a a good mono? (as the original NeXT mono display)? Color is tempting, but I fear for my eyes.... Thks! Antoine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI-Chip anyone? Message-ID: <1994Apr27.095104.23901@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 09:51:04 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <2ph8m9$r21@mwnext.metaworks.de> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <2ph8m9$r21@mwnext.metaworks.de> writes: > > Hello there, > > I've got an Colorturbostation. But now, you guess it, the SCSI Chip appears to > be damaged. > Internal SCSI is functioning. > So I guess it would be enough to just swap the SCSI-Chip and the two external > driver-chips. > > On these Chips the are the following codes: > SCSI: > NCR 53C90A > CP 02789 > 609-3400 475 > 9227N > > Driver: > Fil.MAG > 23Z109SM > TWN9229 > > > Has anybody an idea, were i can get these chips? > I'd prefer to swap the chips over swapping the whole board. > > Please answer per E-mail. Does it make sence to post a summary? > > Thank you very much, > > Jens If the internal drive is working, then the SCSI chip definitely works! And I find it hard to beleive that the drivers would only be used for the external interface. It is more likely that the cable of the external drives is defect or not properly terminated. Perhaps one or more of the pins of the SCSI-2 connector are bent and causing a short circuit (happend to me, no dammage done though)? -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] docking stations? Date: 27 Apr 1994 11:54:32 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <2pljpo$r3t@hippo.shef.ac.uk> References: <940425201713.231AACUy.malc@jeeves> <1994Apr26.192332.23627@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch (paul@seer.demon.co.uk) wrote: : : Have you not yet seen the NEC's with 8 bit colour? The driver is from : Talus. Bigger resolution is promised in the summer. : I've heard rumours etc. (and a bit more...) but until your recent post elsewhere wasn't aware that it had shipped. If you happen to have one lying around somewhere and feel like sending one up to me, feel free! :-) If you can tell more about bigger resultion, please do so... Cheers, and Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: [intel] docking stations? Message-ID: <Cox6AK.KxJ@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <940425201713.231AACUy.malc@jeeves> <dcodeCovyE4.LE8@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 13:21:11 GMT Paul Marcos (dcode@netcom.com) wrote: : A friend of mine just got a portable from a company called Austin. It : seems to be a kick-ass portable. 486 DX/2 66 Mhz, 16 Megs ram, 500 Meg : hard drive. Beautiful 8 bit color (640x480 only). Feels just as fast : as my desktop machine! No idea if it runs NeXTSTEP, but the hardware : seems pretty generic so I wouldn't be surprised if it did. It support : up to 1024x768 on an external monitor and has a docking station as well : that can hold 2 ISA cards. Actually he hasn't gotten the docking station : yet, so I don't know exactly what it's like. : I'll have to convince him to let me try to install NeXTSTEP on it! If : I do, I'll let you know how it goes. Save the time -- unless he'll use it. It just works... peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@snac.cfa.org
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/FIP sound: AudioTrixPro Date: 27 Apr 1994 13:27:16 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2plp7k$ipc@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I just got my AudioTrixPro soundcard in the mail a couple days ago. Although I am not a musician and I really don't have a musical ear, I guess it sounds ok. Some sound files get a load click or scratch sound at the end, otherwise it works fine using the MSS drivers. Since I have an adaptec 1542CF, the PAS16 conflicted so I had to get this card. I am still doing some config modifications, but so far so good. ALthough I don't play games, my friends do and they all come over and play games on my killer system and they say the sound is great. In windows listening to midi's is better than SB but not as quite as good as a Gravis. The AudioTrixPro uses both FM synth and wave tables so you get both worlds. I haven't tried the SB drivers yet, but They should work since the card is SB hardware compatable. I hear the SB drivers kinda don't work right yet on even SB cards, but that's just a rumor that people have emailed me. If you are just looking for a sound solution that will give you General Midi in DOS (like Doom v1.2 supports General Midi) and work with NS/FIP pretty good, this is the way to go. For $195 untill June, it's not a bad deal either. It does have a ton of software and stuff for DOS and Windows if you use those OS's too (I hate to admit, but I do keep 10% of my gig for that lame software....... MediaTrix phone is 819-829-trix -and no, I am not in any way associated with them either..... but apparently I am the first person to fire one up in NS/FIP, plug & play out of the box with minimal jumper settings...... STiMPY -- stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us NeXTSTEP, the ONLY operating system worth using!!!
From: wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Diamond Viper and SoftPC Date: 27 Apr 1994 13:59:23 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <2plr3r$45u@email.tuwien.ac.at> References: <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com> In article <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com> gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) writes: > > Since I installed a Diamond Viper VLB card in my system, SoftPC wont run > anymore. It says "This session does not support full screen" and then > quits. Does SoftPC support the Diamond Viper? What's the deal? > Who cares? Scrap your DOS partition! (FLAME ON) -- | _ | Alexander Wilkie | | / \ \ / | wilkie@cslab.tuwien.ac.at | | /---\ \ /\ / | Technical University Vienna | | / \ \/ \/ | Austria / Europe | | | (NeXTMail o.k.) |
From: mcquill@next.duq.edu (Tod McQuillin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power on self test error Date: 27 Apr 1994 16:33:41 -0400 Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA USA Message-ID: <2pmi75$v4@keen.ccit.duq.edu> My NeXTStation Turbo recently started exhibiting some strange behaviour. During the power-on self tests, this message pops up: System test failed, error code: e2 After this, the system boots as usual, but about half of the time, hundreds of lines of this show up: enrx: no network buffers and the system hangs. On those occasions when it does boot, it usually panics sometime between 5 minutes and 5 hours after booting. Other times, it hangs, with the symptom being that all network communication just stops. Anyone seen this before? Is it a bad ethernet controller? Any clues will be accepted gratefully. -- Tod McQuillin Duquesne University
From: mwebster@lab9.smcm.edu (G. Matthew Webster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/I with Following Clone Motherboards? Date: 27 Apr 1994 21:00:41 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2pmjpp$7u2@umd5.umd.edu> I am thinking about purchasing a new VESA motherboard so I can run NS/i. The one I want is by Silicon Star Incorporated. It has 8 30-pin SIMM sockets and 2 72-pin sockets, which gives me the flexibility I need. I am told by the sales rep that it has an AMI BIOS and a UMC chipset. They say it is NS/I compatible, but, frankly, I doubt they know. Any help would be appreciated on how to differentiate the compatbility of NS/i motherboards. The other one is a VESA/PCI/ISA board from TC Periperhals. I think the manufacturer is VEGA. It is the only board like it on the market that I know of. It would seem to be a good idea to have the slot flexbility. Anyone know about this board? Matt Webster mwebster@oyster.smcm.edu
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: UUCP and high speed connections: HELP! Date: 27 Apr 1994 12:42:31 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2plj37$61f@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2ouf13$e4v@newsflash.mitre.org> <1994Apr22.023819.5715@hot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes: >Anyone who is using UUCP on NEXTSTEP should be running the GNU Taylor >UUCP. The stock NeXT UUCP is an ancient, slow, hard to configure, hard >to maintain, not so secure version that doesn't work well. Absolutely correct. >You can obtain the source code to GNU Taylor UUCP from >ftp.uu.net:/networking/uucp. Or you can ftp a NeXTSTEP-preconfigured source package including FAT binaries from ftp.uni-stuttgart.de. >While you're at it, I encourage you to use sendmail 8.6.8 which is >available in source form from ftp.cs.berkeley.edu. But if you want to understand the mail configuration and do it the easy way, I suggest smail 3.1.28. Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.uni-stuttgart.de /usr/local/bin/irc /nick Marsu /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: kay@nagasena.tynet.sub.org (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD-ROM player problem - help is needed (desparately) Date: 27 Apr 1994 12:53:23 +0200 Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group Message-ID: <2plg73$1bd@nagasena.tynet.sub.org> References: <2omm7t$bcp@math.mps.ohio-state.edu> <2ooafs$42j@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2pd0u3$524@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> *** Mark Lin *** (u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw) wrote: > : A number of things come to mind. Are you using Intel? If so I _don't > : think_ CDPlayer works with Intel.. > : Also, you don't say exactly when you insert the disc... You should > : only be inserting the disk when the Panel pops up after CDPlayer.app > : is running. (This assumes you _are_ on Motorolla because I believe > : CDPlayer.app only works on Motorolla) > CDPlayer.app works fine with my Intel machine ... For me it worked fine under NSI 3.2 I used a Toshiba 3401 and I could use it with PhotCDs, Audio CDs and normal CDs. No You can insert the CD and then start CDPLAYER.APP and it will work KAY kschulz@ba-stuttgart.de
From: kay@nagasena.tynet.sub.org (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: UUCP and high speed connections: HELP! Date: 27 Apr 1994 14:53:24 +0200 Organization: Firestone Chaotic Group Message-ID: <2pln84$1o3@nagasena.tynet.sub.org> References: <2ouf13$e4v@newsflash.mitre.org> <1994Apr22.023819.5715@hot.com> <2plj37$61f@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org) wrote: > Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes: > >Anyone who is using UUCP on NEXTSTEP should be running the GNU Taylor > >UUCP. The stock NeXT UUCP is an ancient, slow, hard to configure, hard > >to maintain, not so secure version that doesn't work well. > Absolutely correct. No, not. It is easy to configure the installed uucp. L.sys and L-devices are easy. It depends to what you are used to. I am used to HDB first, then I am used to V2 (NeXT) and because the HP uucp is no sooooooo great I use taylor. If you don't know any uucp use taylor, if you wanted the fastest, use taylor, if you are used to anything else don't use taylor. BTW: O'Reilly ships a wonderful book on uucp (no taylor, but all others) > >You can obtain the source code to GNU Taylor UUCP from > >ftp.uu.net:/networking/uucp. > Or you can ftp a NeXTSTEP-preconfigured source package including FAT > binaries from ftp.uni-stuttgart.de. This is what this guy who wrote the lines above did. :-) Thanks to him > >While you're at it, I encourage you to use sendmail 8.6.8 which is > >available in source form from ftp.cs.berkeley.edu. > But if you want to understand the mail configuration and do it the > easy way, I suggest smail 3.1.28. TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Don't use anything else than smail......... And if you have more than a single side use zmail. But never use sendmail I know one o two who are able to read sendmail.cf like I eat chocolate. But normally smail for a single side is perfect. Kay Schulz National Mail: kay@nagasena.tynet.sub.org International: kschulz@ba-stuttgart.de No NeXTmail means to know the Syntax of uuencode and uudecode
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Rob Tibshirani) Subject: Re: PAS 16 and Adaptec 1542b on VESA/ISA machine, panic Message-ID: <Coy0xy.7AE@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2pgqem$4hb@news.service.uci.edu> <Cou9Mv.DJ6@utstat.toronto.edu> <next2.767342936@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 00:20:22 GMT In article <next2.767342936@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: [ ] >>I do not believe that the PAS 16 will work properly when booting from a >>SCSI drive controlled by an Adaptec. It works fine on my system when I >>boot from an IDE drive. It doesn't if I move it to a similar system >>booting from the Adaptec. >Wrong. It was no problem at all to boot from a drive attached to the >Adaptec and let the PAS play sounds. But from time to time the ISA bus >locked up due to two cards busmastering. I call that not working properly, or do you feel that this is acceptable? [ ] >All my lockups mentioned above have disappeared since I switched to an >EISA/VL board. On an EISA system, SCSI adapter and PAS cannot hurt each >other any longer, although they are both ISA cards. That's fine, but my system works perfectly without having to switch to a more expensive EISA/VL combination ( EISA cards are typically more expensive and in any case that bus does not have a bright future). [ ] >>NeXT/Intel is >>1000 years behind in sound support. I'd have to say the C64 is still far >>ahead of them. But then again this Mission Critical Obsession is taking its >>toll. What a lot of nonsense. > >Then go back for your C64. The real reason for this is that PC hardware >architecture is damned bullshit and years behind any sophisticated bus >concept. All operating systems have to do more or less magic, to >transfer all I/O through this stupid bottleneck called ISA. >PCI is the step into the right direction, but if you look at all the >misfunctions of the boards and adapters that are available at the moment, >I could start crying again. Perhaps I will return to the C64...I don't have a stake in the MCA movement and have always thought of it as ridiculous. However there are those that are using it to further their own agendas. I assume they couldn't do this with a C64. You may not feel that sound is important, as voice mail really doesn't require good sound, but many students will not buy a system unless there is good sound support. They are the future and it's more important to get them interested in NS than it is to convince you and me. Incidentally, OS/2 manages to have a rather nice OS on that horrible ISA bus with sound and all kinds of other things. So do many other OS's. >Markus. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (no NeXT) [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jfitz@crash.cts.com (Jim Fitzgerald) Subject: NeXT 256MB MO Drive Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 01:01:39 GMT Message-ID: <Coy2us.GwB@crash.cts.com> Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem) Does the NeXT 256MB (model N3000) MO drive use a SCSI Interface? Where can I obtain technical information on this? And is there a 3'rd party replacement for this drive which is functionally equivalent to the NeXT unit? Thanks -Jim
From: icoge@iunet.it (Armando Stroppari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.2 + COMPAQ DESKPRO XE Date: 28 Apr 1994 06:09:29 GMT Message-ID: <2pnjup$q8m@sgi.iunet.it> Hi, we have just tried to install NEXTStep 3.2 on a Compaq Deskpro XE 466. It works fine with resolution 800x600 16 bit color, but don't works with 1024x768 8 bit grayscale. The graphics adapter is a Compaq QVISION 1024/I integrated. Thanks very much for any help/ideas! -- --------------------| Qui stultis videri eruditi volunt |---------------------- Armando Stroppari icoge@relay1.iunet.it -----------------------| stulti eruditis videntur |-------------------------
From: Bo.Eriksson@Teknikum.UU.SE (Bo Eriksson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New BusLogic 445S driver with newer PROMs ? Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 06:31:13 GMT Organization: Circuits & Systems Group, U of Uppsala, Sweden Message-ID: <Bo.Eriksson.232.2DBF5831@Teknikum.UU.SE> References: <2phv0b$gbh@digifix.digifix.com> Regarding the new driver for BusLogic announced in c.s.n.announce: In article <2phv0b$gbh@digifix.digifix.com> Tomas Hurka <tom@hukatronic.cz> writes: >Version 1.0 of BusLogic BT-445S SCSI Adapter Device Driver for >NEXTSTEP Release 3.2 for Intel Processors. [...] >with 32 MB RAM and 1.2 GB TOSHIBA MK538FB SCSI-2 drive. The driver works >with BT-445S firmware version 3.31C - we didn't have a chance to test other >versions of firmware. Has anyone else tried this driver with newer firmware? I'm having some problems that may be solved by this driver, but I'll probably not be able to find the time to try it out in the near future, at least not until next week sometime. /Bo Eriksson
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Diamond Viper and SoftPC Message-ID: <1994Apr27.154830.17389@cc.usu.edu> Date: 27 Apr 94 15:48:30 MDT References: <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com> Organization: Utah State University In article <2pknsk$7ih@crl2.crl.com>, gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) writes: > What gives? > > Since I installed a Diamond Viper VLB card in my system, SoftPC wont run > anymore. It says "This session does not support full screen" and then > quits. Does SoftPC support the Diamond Viper? What's the deal? Works fine for me. Are you trying to run windows using a windows viper dirver? I tried to see if I could get this to work :-) but I couldn't. Is it possible to use SoftPC in full screen with a third-party window driver to get say, 800x600 or some such? Anyway, SoftPC running in a window and full screen works just fine for me on my NEC P60 with the Diamond Viper PCI. ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko) Subject: PCI SCSI Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca Message-ID: <Coxu02.I8r@cuug.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 21:50:25 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group Has anyone tried (or know) if the new Adaptec AHA-2940 PCI SCSI controller will work with NS/I? Can it emulate a AHA-154x controller? The card has a 133MB/s xfer rate. MSRP $399.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: [intel] docking stations? Message-ID: <1994Apr27.231856.1119@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2pljpo$r3t@hippo.shef.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 23:18:56 GMT In article <2pljpo$r3t@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) writes: > Paul Lynch (paul@seer.demon.co.uk) wrote: > : > : Have you not yet seen the NEC's with 8 bit colour? The driver is from > : Talus. Bigger resolution is promised in the summer. > : > I've heard rumours etc. (and a bit more...) but until your recent post > elsewhere wasn't aware that it had shipped. If you happen to have one > lying around somewhere and feel like sending one up to me, feel free! > :-) > > If you can tell more about bigger resultion, please do so... Don't feel bad about it, apart from some intermittent contact Talus dropped of the screen after the developer conference... Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: or@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Oliver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 68060 Date: 28 Apr 1994 10:22:49 GMT Organization: TU Darmstadt Distribution: world Message-ID: <2po2pp$h1q@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <1994Apr25.011715.40375@Lehigh.EDU> <CovIE0.40p@cs.uiuc.edu> In article <CovIE0.40p@cs.uiuc.edu>, eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille) writes: > In article <1994Apr25.011715.40375@Lehigh.EDU> smithe@lafcol.lafayette.edu > (Flash!) writes: > > I have a question for those owning black hardware. I just read that > > Moto will be selling the 68060 (lots of 10k) for $263... > > > > Will there be any upgrade, by any company for black hardware? > > Who, how much... ? Is the 60 pin compatible with the 40 ? > I would also be very interested to hear again about this project to make a > 68060 card for the NeXT computers. I'm in charge of a net of 18 NeXT and we may > be interested to get that card. Hmm, I'm not sure myself, but c't 5/94 (or 4/94 ?) says the 60 is 3x faster in floating point, 1,5..2x faster in integer calculations than the 40, and it IS pin compatible, they say.
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 256MB MO Drive Date: 28 Apr 1994 13:17:52 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pod20$bfj@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <Coy2us.GwB@crash.cts.com> Jim Fitzgerald writes > Does the NeXT 256MB (model N3000) MO drive use a SCSI Interface? Where I do not think that it does. It uses a non-standard interface. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Does anyone know if there is an external SCSI optical drive that is compatible with the NeXT OD? Thanks, Roland --------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Andras Micsik Subject: Before purchase -- what to choose? Message-ID: <Coz0vK.7nt@sunserv.sztaki.hu> Sender: news@sunserv.sztaki.hu (News system) Organization: Your Organization Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:16:31 GMT Hi, We want to buy two PCs with NS/FIP 3.2. to make a groupware lab. But! After the first round in search we realised that there is no hope to get a PC with preinstalled NS here in Hungary. So we have to assemble a configuration, buy it, and install NS on it. As we see the NeXT Hardware Portability Guide for NS 3.2 is a little bit out of date, because the machines listed there are mostly out of market. We tried at Compaq, DELL and DEC, to make up together a configuration... They have no idea about NS, and we have no idea about the adapters and techniques the new machines use. Usually there is always one or two thing in the configuration which does not correspond to the Hardware Comp. Guide. We ask your help in general and in the following: 1. Any working configurations based on Compaq XL, Compaq Prosignia, Dell OmniPlex, Dell OptiPlex series? 2. Is it enough to have a SCSI-2 adapter, CD-ROM, and hard disk, or do we need pieces of the certified adapters and drives? 3. Where can we find more recent info about these topics, for example a list of tested adapters, or FTPable drivers? (we know NeXTAnswers) Thanks in advance, Andras ----------------------------------------------------------------- Andras Micsik Hungarian Academy of Sciences Computer and Automation Institute e-mail: micsik@ilab.sztaki.hu NeXTMail: micsik@next.ilab.sztaki.hu
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/FIP Home-Brew Mailing lIst Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:30:34 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2pohaa$pst@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I am starting a NS/FIP Home-Brew Mailing List for those people who are running machines that they built themselves or for people who want to build the machine themselves. First, I would like people to send me the info about their Home-Brew machine so I can compile a FAQ for the Mailing List site, then we can get things rolling. If we all stick together and keep each other informed, we will be far ahead of the game. If you have questions about what info is needed for the FAQ or any other question, please feel free to email or 'talk' to me at any time. I am usually on-line (with a 14.4 connection to my server). No NeXTmail yet please..... Thanx, and good luck. Keep builing those Home-Brew machines !!! Gary -- stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu NeXTSTEP, the ONLY operating system worth using!!!
From: u930730@macon.daimi.aau.dk (Martin Kasper Petersen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will NeXTStep run on my machine? Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:27:28 GMT Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. of Aarhus Univ. Distribution: world Message-ID: <U930730.94Apr28162730@macon.daimi.aau.dk> I have recently been offered a NeXTStep/intel 3.0 distribution. Due to the fact that I know little or nothing about NeXT, I'd like to have a little advice. Here's my hardware configuration: i486DX2-66, 16 Mb RAM, 500 Mb IDE HD, Conner TapeStor Streamer, Cirrus Logic VL5426 2Mb Graphics Adapter and a Mitsumi FX001D CD-ROM using a non-scsi controller. Will I be able to install NeXTStep without a SCSI CD-ROM and will it run on my machine at all? And what if I upgrade to a newer version of NeXTStep? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Kasper Petersen Comp.sci.dept. at Aarhus University, Denmark. (u930730@daimi.aau.dk) Homepage: http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~u930730 (FidoNet: 2:234/87.39) Member of Team OS/2, Linux User (OS2Net: 81:445/13.39) >> We want stacker with JPeg compression ;-) << -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Talus NCR SCSI Driver ? Date: 28 Apr 1994 15:49:57 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2polv5$r0r@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hi! In a german news group sb. said, that the NCR SCSI driver from Talus will cost appr. $150 ? Is this right? Does anybody know a place in the US where to get this driver somewhat cheaper? Thanks for any hints! Michael
From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] comparing hard drive speeds Date: 28 Apr 94 11:49:21 Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA Distribution: comp Message-ID: <SWIFT.94Apr28114921@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu> I recently bought a used hard drive, and would like to compare its speed performance to my present drive. They are both on my SCSI chain, one internal, one external. I don't need an extraordinarily accurate or precise test; if one turns out to be appreciably faster, I will make it the more-frequently-accessed one. I am a novice with the technicalities of hardware, but not one in general. Would someone suggest a test to me? Matt Swift swift@bu.edu
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ELSA Winner 1000 / 2000 driver available for free Date: 28 Apr 1994 16:18:02 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2ponjq$rfe@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hi! Yesterday I received the drivers for the ELSA Winner 1000 and ELSA Winner 2000 graphic adapters. I will try to convince ELSA to put their driver to a ftp-server, perhaps ftp.next.com ?? But here are the results for my DX50 VLB Board with ELSA Winner 1000 VLB 1MB 16MB RAM: dhrystones: 48387 VAX Mips: 30.72 NXBench 2.0 ----------- Color: 1024x768x8bit 800x600x555:16bit line: 1.25 0.55 arc: 1.19 0.52 fill: 1.11 0.40 transform: 1.39 1.17 composite: 1.00 0.45 userpath: 1.08 0.39 window: 0.93 0.27 ------------ NXFactor: 1.18 0.62 If you want to know which res x depth x freq are possible ? All that are possipble under DOS for you specific card. They have a tool to convert the DOS configiguration data to a next one! So I will test later, which resolution will be max for 1 MB!-) The driver is FREE, no $150 no $75 no anything! Try their mail-box service.. Bye, Michael Model
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Re: [intel] docking stations? Message-ID: <Coz4K6.qt@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) References: <2pljpo$r3t@hippo.shef.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 14:36:05 GMT In article <2pljpo$r3t@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) writes: > Paul Lynch (paul@seer.demon.co.uk) wrote: > : > : Have you not yet seen the NEC's with 8 bit colour? The driver is from > : Talus. Bigger resolution is promised in the summer. > : > I've heard rumours etc. (and a bit more...) but until your recent post > elsewhere wasn't aware that it had shipped. If you happen to have one > lying around somewhere and feel like sending one up to me, feel free! > :-) > We've had a beta of the driver, and it looks good, but was not quite finished. There was some "interference" of the kind seen on other bad drivers at the edge of windows etc. They're almost there though. -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: klund@haas.berkeley.edu (Kyle Lundstedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NSFIP Error - unexpected resend from keyboard Date: 28 Apr 1994 17:09:38 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2poqki$h7l@agate.berkeley.edu> I am installing NSFIP on an Everex 486/33. When the startup program prompts for typing 1 to install NEXTSTEP or 2 to quit, the machine crashes. Does anyone know what might cause such a crash? -- Kyle Lundstedt Haas School of Business, U.C. Berkeley klund@haas.berkeley.edu
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [NeXT] Singular solutions' A/D 64x Date: 28 Apr 1994 13:58:35 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940428195556.5207AACUM.malc@jeeves> Has anybody any experience with this product? My basic need is to transfer data from a TASCAM DA-88 8-track DAT player to disk (AES/EBU and SP/DIF interfaces). I've also considered Ariel's DAT-Port (the DAT-Link is too expensive) and the Stealth DAI 2400. The DAT-Port is no longer supported by Ariel, and is more expensive than the 64x. The Stealth I know works fine (a contact here in the UK uses it), and is cheaper than the 64x, but the 64x has the advantage of also giving us a high-quality A/D route (which, astoundingly, we currently lack). I don't know in detail what s/ comes with any of these products. Any words of wisdom from anybody with experience of these would be welcome. Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will NeXTStep run on my machine? Date: 28 Apr 1994 19:29:50 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2pp2re$19s@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <U930730.94Apr28162730@macon.daimi.aau.dk> In article <U930730.94Apr28162730@macon.daimi.aau.dk> u930730@macon.daimi.aau.dk (Martin Kasper Petersen) writes: > I have recently been offered a NeXTStep/intel 3.0 distribution. NextStep 3.0 is for Motorolla hardware only. You need NextStep 3.1 or 3.2 to get Intel compatibility. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [NeXT] Singular solutions' A/D 64x Date: 28 Apr 94 15:44:55 Organization: UPENN Computer Graphics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <PROCOPIO.94Apr28154455@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> References: <940428195556.5207AACUM.malc@jeeves> In-reply-to: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk's message of 28 Apr 1994 13:58:35 -0500 I'm currently using a Singular Solutions AD64x at Temple University, and it works great. It has balanced and unbalanced analog inputs, AES/EBU digital in/out (stereo), can accept either mic or line analog inputs (w/ separate input jacks and separate gain controls) and can sample at 32,44.1,or 48kHz. A direct connector from the AD64x to the NeXT DSP port is included. As far as I know, a lot of NeXT software for audio supports this device. (We're using SoundWorks 3.0 under NS3.2) If you know how much this unit costs, let me know cause I'm buying a NeXT system for my home use and would consider buying one... procopio@astro.ocis.temple.edu OR procopio@graphics.cis.upenn.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Before purchase -- what to choose? Date: 28 Apr 1994 20:11:25 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2pp59d$qo8@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <Coz0vK.7nt@sunserv.sztaki.hu> > We tried at Compaq, DELL and DEC, to make > up together a configuration... They have no idea about NS, and > we have no idea about the adapters and techniques the new > machines use.-- I agree: you want to deal with someone who has NeXT expertise. If you want to buy DEC, try a DEC reseller who knows NS (like Paradigm Computers; they occasionally advertise here). If you want to buy DELL, ask your DELL direct salesperson to talk to their internal NS-support staff (e.g., Tom Hartsell). They are very well informed, indeed---I just ordered my system from them after detailed discussions with them on what works and what doesn't. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha) Subject: Re: CD-ROM player problem - help is needed (desparately) Message-ID: <1994Apr28.130913.8819@news.uminho.pt> Sender: newsadm@news.uminho.pt (Network News Account) Organization: Universidade do Minho Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 13:09:13 GMT Mark Lin > : A number of things come to mind. Are you using Intel? If so I _don't > : think_ CDPlayer works with Intel.. Kay Schulz > For me it worked fine under NSI 3.2 > I used a Toshiba 3401 and I could use it with PhotCDs, Audio CDs and > normal CDs. > I also have a Toshiba 3401, and it *doesn't* work with Audio or pCD with NS 3.1. I don't have 3.2, but as we can see from Kay Schulz, it works fine on 3.2. I don't know if it's a bad CDPlayer.app or something else. Try to get a 3.2 CDPlayer and run it on NS3.1. Will it works? I don't know... jorge -- Jorge Gustavo Rocha Email jgr@di.uminho.pt ------------------------------------------------------------ Departamento de Inform'atica Tel +351 53 604461 Universidade do Minho Fax +351 53 612954 4700 Braga PORTUGAL NeXTmail welcome --
From: ericval@aol.com (EricVal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Frequent crashes of NSFIP 3.2 Date: 28 Apr 1994 15:43:03 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2pp3k7$5vt@search01.news.aol.com> References: <CM5BG7.But@ennews.eas.asu.edu> In article <CM5BG7.But@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) writes: <<I reallly need some help with diagnosing my problems with freqeuent crashes of NSFIP 3.2 on my Epson Progression NX...The messages that I get are very cryptic (to me). They always include: Waiting for remote debugger connection (type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot) Sometimes these are preceeded by one or more of the following >messages: unexpected kernel trap 2 eip 344ab35 or Failed instruction exception (2,2,0) or Breakpoint exception (6,3,0)>> I wish I had a response. We are having similar problems with five Epson NX's running 3.2. What network interface card, SCSI adapter, and sound card are you using? Eric Valinsky Republic National Bank of New York
From: zqx@siesta.cs.wustl.edu (Zeqing Xia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound card recommendation needed Date: 28 Apr 1994 15:46:02 -0500 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO Message-ID: <2pp7aa$ros@siesta.cs.wustl.edu> Hi, I'm currently planning for installing a sound card and related things on my Dell466/MX. Would anyone give me some advice on what type of sound card and what kind of details I need to get to do so. Also I'm thinking upgrading to 3.2 or whatever the most current version (I'm using 3.1). Could anyone give me the price (including developer's package). Thanks so much. Zeqing Xia
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 256MB MO Drive Date: 28 Apr 1994 19:27:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: su Message-ID: <2pp2ma$198@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <Coy2us.GwB@crash.cts.com> In article <Coy2us.GwB@crash.cts.com> jfitz@crash.cts.com (Jim Fitzgerald) writes: > Does the NeXT 256MB (model N3000) MO drive use a SCSI Interface? No. > Where can I obtain technical information on this? Bell Atlantic has a monopoly on the schematics and keeps them under lock and key. You will not be able to get them. > And is there a 3'rd party replacement for this drive which is > functionally equivalent to the NeXT unit? No. There is nothing else in the world which is compatible with either the NeXT OD or the NeXT OD cartridges. If your OD is broken, then buy another used one off the net for a couple hundred dollars. There are also several businesses other than Bell Atlantic supplying used NeXT parts. You might try: 1) Bell Atlantic 1-800-499-NEXT (6398) 2) Pixelated Technologies 1-800-749-3563 & 310-459-6831 pixel8ed@kaiwan.com 3) Dancing Bear Enterprizes 303 479-9101 Information from infobot@dancingbear.com. Use <index> or <catalog> as the subject for document list or a catalog. 4) Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919--voice 415-381-9556--fax -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: cheng@mercury.ucsb.edu (Benny Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.ibm.hardware Subject: Best UNIX system for under $10K ? Date: 28 Apr 1994 14:23:23 -0700 Organization: Message-ID: <cheng.767568108@mercury> Hello. I'd like to solicit information from intelligent readers as to what the best unix system $10K can buy at this time (exclude hard disk space please). We're in the process of upgrading our old unix machines (AUX on MacQuadra). I guess best here means speed, 32mb+ ram, 14 in.+ monitors, etc. Please email your replies. Thanks. Benny Cheng Sysadmin
From: telfeyan@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Roland Telfeyan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions for external MO drives, 230Mb+ sought Date: 27 Apr 1994 15:14:13 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: World Message-ID: <2plvg5$hqj@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <CovLGr.8LF@news.cis.umn.edu> Summary: any compatible with NeXTcube OD? Anybody know of external optical drives that are compatible with the one in the NeXT cube? Thanks, Roland -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sav3@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory Saving with Black and White? Date: 28 Apr 1994 23:04:32 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <2ppfe0$kl4@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> I have a ProGX with 16 megs of RAM. It has an onboard ATI GUP Pro with 2 megs of RAM. The machine definitely needs more RAM, which I will add. In the meantime, however, I'm wondering if I can save RAM useage by using Black and White mode. I've used Configure to switch from 1024-768 16 bit color to 1024-768 8Bit B+W, but I don't seem to "see" any memory savings when I do a ps -aux. Is this in fact saving memory? Or is it just setting the ATI to display in B+W while using the same memory. If so, is there a way for me to set my machine to be purely in B+W? I could use the extra memory performance. Thanks Sean ****************************************************************************** "it's not music if no one wants to listen to it" Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, sav3@cunixa.columbia.edu ******************************************************************************
From: jlf@decatl.alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DECpc XL with Intel CPU Date: 29 Apr 1994 02:54:49 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Alpharetta, GA, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ppstp$23q@netnews.alf.dec.com> References: <2oskj1$6ai@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> <1994Apr21.141414.23577@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> <2pj9uk$338@server.cs.vt.edu> Will Schmidt (schmidt@csgrad.cs.vt.edu) wrote: : We are trying to get nextstep 3.2 to load on a DEC XL 560 and have been : having problems with the machine recognising the CD-ROM drive. : It has an NCR SDMS version 3.0 SCSI controller and a Toshiba CD-ROM. : Here's what happens: : We boot the PC off the nextstep installation disk. : When it scans the SCSI bus, we get the message: : No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found. : Did you have any problems like this when you were installing on your : machine? Did you have to use a separate SCSI driver other than the : ones that came with nextstep? : Any help will be greatly appreciated. : - Will Schmidt : schmidt@cs.vt.edu You need the NCR PCI SCSI driver to use the on-board SCSI. I do not know when it will be released, but hopefully soon. -- jeff finkelstein | "Imagination is more important than jlf@alf.dec.com | knowledge." digital equipment corporation | - Albert Einstein customer support center |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yong@iitmax.iit.edu (Yong Yoo) Subject: Thank you note for everyone who help me out. Message-ID: <1994Apr28.212244.9552@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 21:22:44 GMT Hi, I would like to thank all people who help me out. I've post about Adaptec 154x's driver for NS3.2 last weekend, and I've gotten over-whelming responses from everywhere. Just want to say THANK YOU. Sincerely, Yong Yoo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org> Subject: Re: Talus NCR SCSI Driver ? Message-ID: <1994Apr28.233123.10768@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <2polv5$r0r@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 23:31:23 GMT In article <2polv5$r0r@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) writes: > Hi! > > In a german news group sb. said, that the NCR SCSI driver from Talus > will cost appr. $150 ? > Is this right? > Does anybody know a place in the US where to get this driver somewhat > cheaper? > > Thanks for any hints! > > Michael > E-mailing Talus would be the best : info@talus.com (drivers@talus.com ? steve@talus.com ?) Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Subject: Re: [NeXT] Singular solutions' A/D 64x Message-ID: <1994Apr29.090132.9767@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Date: Fri, 29 Apr 94 09:01:32 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Re: [NeXT] Singular solutions' A/D 64x Message-ID: <rscottCp0IH4.Hsr@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <940428195556.5207AACUM.malc@jeeves> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:34:15 GMT In article <940428195556.5207AACUM.malc@jeeves> Malcolm Crawford <M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> writes: >Has anybody any experience with this product? > >My basic need is to transfer data from a TASCAM DA-88 8-track DAT player to >disk (AES/EBU and SP/DIF interfaces). > >I've also considered Ariel's DAT-Port (the DAT-Link is too expensive) and the >Stealth DAI 2400. The DAT-Port is no longer supported by Ariel, and is more >expensive than the 64x. The Stealth I know works fine (a contact here in the >UK uses it), and is cheaper than the 64x, but the 64x has the advantage of >also giving us a high-quality A/D route (which, astoundingly, we currently >lack). >I don't know in detail what s/ comes with any of these products. > >Any words of wisdom from anybody with experience of these would be welcome. > >Have fun, > >mmalcolm. > > SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 > Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 > Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 > Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk > 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, MIME welcome) > Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Re: [NeXT] Singular solutions' A/D 64x Message-ID: <rscottCp0J0q.ID5@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:46:02 GMT
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [NeXT] Singular solutions' A/D 64x Date: 29 Apr 1994 09:43:07 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <2pqkrb$eb0@hippo.shef.ac.uk> References: <940428195556.5207AACUM.malc@jeeves> <PROCOPIO.94Apr28154455@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> Joseph L. Procopio (procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu) wrote: : If you know how much this unit costs, let me know cause I'm buying a NeXT : system for my home use and would consider buying one... : They have units in stock for $1295 (exc tax and delivery) Edu price is $995. Have fun, mmalcolm.
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Booting from 2nd hard drive? Date: 29 Apr 1994 09:17:28 -0500 Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin Message-ID: <2pr4to$9jo@post.its.mcw.edu> I am purchasing a Nextstep compatible Pentium machine from Dell. I hope to be able to run it with two hard drives, one with Nextstep and one with Windows. Does anyone have experience with this type of configuration? Can I boot NS from the second drive? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob Morris -- Robert D. Morris, MD, PhD Phone:414 257-8200 Medical College of Wisconsin Fax: 414 257-8353 Milwaukee, WI 53226 Internet: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 256MB MO Drive Date: 29 Apr 1994 18:10:53 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2prijd$f6n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2pp2ma$198@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <Coy2us.GwB@crash.cts.com> jfitz@crash.cts.com (Jim Fitzgerald) writes: > Does the NeXT 256MB (model N3000) MO drive use a SCSI Interface? No. > Where can I obtain technical information on this? Bell Atlantic has a monopoly on the schematics and keeps them under lock and key. You will not be able to get them. > And is there a 3'rd party replacement for this drive which is > functionally equivalent to the NeXT unit? No. There is nothing else in the world which is compatible with either the NeXT OD or the NeXT OD cartridges. If your OD is broken, then buy another used one off the net for a couple hundred dollars. There are also several businesses other than Bell Atlantic supplying used NeXT parts. You might try: 1) Bell Atlantic 1-800-499-NEXT (6398) 2) Pixelated Technologies 1-800-749-3563 & 310-459-6831 pixel8ed@kaiwan.com 3) Dancing Bear Enterprizes 303 479-9101 Information from infobot@dancingbear.com. Use <index> or <catalog> as the subject for document list or a catalog. 4) Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919--voice 415-381-9556--fax -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Peripheral Land floppy drive Date: 29 Apr 1994 21:29:41 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2pru85$mhg@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> hello, since I upgraded to 3.0, my external floppy drive from Peripheral Land gives me troubles. Examples: initializing a disk in unix format terminates in a system panic, initializing in Mac format leads to catalog mismatch. Only DOS-formated disks are o.k.. I guess other people with such a configuration ( Cube 40 ) have the same problem. Is there a fix? Will 3.1 help? Any information about this is appreciated. Thanks in advance. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Werner Wetzel Fax: +49 6221 569 329 Theoretische Physik Tel: +49 6221 569 419 Universitaet Heidelberg email: me@nextww.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Philosophenweg 16 D-69120 HEIDELBERG
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory Saving with Black and White? Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 20:19:34 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4hkOEKG00iV2EA7YRQ@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2ppfe0$kl4@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Apr-94 Memory Saving with Black an.. by Sean A Varah@merhaba.cc. > I have a ProGX with 16 megs of RAM. It has an onboard ATI GUP Pro with > 2 megs of RAM. The machine definitely needs more RAM, which I will add. > > In the meantime, however, I'm wondering if I can save RAM useage by > using Black and White mode. I've used Configure to switch from > 1024-768 16 bit color to 1024-768 8Bit B+W, but I don't seem to > "see" any memory savings when I do a ps -aux. 'ps -aux' primarily reports virtual rather than physical memory usage, and it also represents the accumulation of what occurs over a second or so, so it is only somewhat related to the machine's actual instantaneous status. Try vm_stat: 1% uptime 10:35am up 7 days, 21:41, 8 users, load average: 0.58, 0.25, 0.20 2% vm_stat Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 8192 bytes) Pages free: 46. Pages active: 1124. Pages inactive: 890. Pages wired down: 369. "Translation faults": 12119453. Pages copy-on-write: 5685214. Pages zero filled: 236255. Pages reactivated: 667579. Pageins: 68199. Pageouts: 18563. Object cache: 82316 hits of 96161 lookups (85% hit rate) You want the ratio of pageouts to other things (such as translation faults) to be as small as possible. > Is this in fact saving memory? Or is it just setting the ATI to > display in B+W while using the same memory. If so, is there a way for > me to set my machine to be purely in B+W? I could use the extra memory > performance. The memory on your video card is not directly usable by the system (except as video memory, of course), so switching to a different video mode does not directly reduce your main memory usage. However, using a different video mode also means that the various window buffers kept in main memory require less memory. This may help overall memory performance somewhat, depending on what you are doing. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: pedja@cs.umd.edu (& Bogdanovich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing Micropolis 4110 into a cube Date: 30 Apr 1994 04:47:10 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <PEDJA.94Apr30004710@midgard.cs.umd.edu> I am trying to install a Micropolis 4110 into a cube (instead of original Maxtor XT-8380S). I have set the drive to SCSI ID #1. The drive is terminated (RN1 and RN2). However when I try to boot of a CD, I always get: Bad version ... ... Bad label Is there anything special that needs to be done with 4110? Thanks. Pedja
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comps.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: SLIP broken after upgrade to 3.2 Message-ID: <1994Apr29.203421.22730@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 20:34:21 GMT Hi. I've just upgraded my supervisor's supervisor's supervisor's (yes, three levels up from me) machine from NS 2.2 to NS 3.1. [Black hardware...] The way SLIP used to work... turn on modem, turn on machine, and the SLIP connection starts at boot time, with NFS and netinfo links from SLIP connection (client) to netinfo server on campus... Now, after the upgrade, SLIP connection is not established until after a telnet (or other IP-using-program is invoked), and even then, no NFS-netinfo links are created... Any ideas what I must change in rc scripts to get the system working as it used to? Or other changes I must make? What am I missing? Thanks for any hints, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus NCR SCSI Driver ? Message-ID: <1994Apr29.162506.17646@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Apr 94 16:25:06 MDT References: <2polv5$r0r@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Organization: Utah State University In article <2polv5$r0r@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>, geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) writes: > Hi! > > In a german news group sb. said, that the NCR SCSI driver from Talus > will cost appr. $150 ? > Is this right? > Does anybody know a place in the US where to get this driver somewhat > cheaper? > > Thanks for any hints! > > Michael ******************************************* There is hope! Contact Mike at Alpine 1-800-748-4558. The Talus Driver is currently available.> *******************************************
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New SCSI Driver For PCI(Talus) Message-ID: <1994Apr29.161517.17644@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Apr 94 16:15:17 MDT References: <2p6dh5INNhef@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2pbguq$lo5@news.mic.ucla.edu> Distribution: world Organization: Utah State University In article <2pbguq$lo5@news.mic.ucla.edu>, ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > > Kris Magnusson has just quit his job at Alpine. Pity. I do not know who > supports NS there now, but they should be able to provide a price on > Monday. > > I am planning to order a DELL Dimension P60/90 soon, because DEC has not > even announced price yet, much less delivery time. Unfortunately, the > Dimension does not have the SCSI chip onboard. > > * Is anyone aware of a PCI card that uses the NCR SCSI chip that is sold > and supported by a NS-competent dealer? (I hope Dave @ Paradigm will > eventually sell these.) > > * Is someone working on a better driver for the #9 PCI card? With 3MB of > RAM, supporting 1280*1024 in 16bit color should not be a problem. > > > Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu > Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu > AGSM at UCLA *********************************** Alpine Computing has Nextstep support available at 1-800-748-4558: Regarding the PCI SCSI NCR 53C810 on board the DEC XL's, we have finalized arrangements with Talus Graphics. The Talus driver is now currently available through Alpine. For more information contact Mike, Steve, or A.J. at Alpine.
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 21" Monitor? Answers. Message-ID: <1994Apr29.172336.17650@cc.usu.edu> Date: 29 Apr 94 17:23:36 MDT References: <2pe28a$2gt@cerberus.wsc.com> Organization: Utah State University ********************************************* The "p" denotes that it is part of the NEC "professional" series. Specs on these monitors are available at Alpine. 1-800-748-4558 Steve Koch ********************************************* > > Well, I'm considering buying a 21" monitor. It's hard > to purchase these things sight unseen, so I'd like to > get some feedback from the net. > > If I was forced to buy a monitor without knowing more than > what I know right now, I'd probably buy the NEC 6FGp. Just > because NEC monitors seem to be pretty good. > > Can someone tell me what the 'p' means in the name? Also, > what about monitors from: > > - ViewSonic > - Nanao > - Sony > > I would probably like a Trinitron tube... however, I'm most > concerned about picture crispness, and not getting headaches. > > - darcy >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (J. LaPierre) Subject: Re: CD-ROM player problem - help is needed (desparately) Message-ID: <1994Apr30.160133.6484@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York References: <1994Apr28.130913.8819@news.uminho.pt> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 94 16:01:33 GMT In <1994Apr28.130913.8819@news.uminho.pt> jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha) writes: >Mark Lin >> : A number of things come to mind. Are you using Intel? If so I _don't >> : think_ CDPlayer works with Intel.. >Kay Schulz >> For me it worked fine under NSI 3.2 >> I used a Toshiba 3401 and I could use it with PhotCDs, Audio CDs and >> normal CDs. >> >I also have a Toshiba 3401, and it *doesn't* work with Audio or pCD with NS >3.1. I don't have 3.2, but as we can see from Kay Schulz, it works fine on 3.2. >I don't know if it's a bad CDPlayer.app or something else. Try to get a 3.2 >CDPlayer and run it on NS3.1. Will it works? I don't know... We need a little more info here than just "I own a Toshiba 3401, and everything's just great". I also own a Toshiba 3401 and know several other people who do and none of us are able to get audio or photo cd's to work. Oh and yes I'm using 3.2 so that's not the problem either. It seems that the problem has something to do with hardware combinations. I don't know how far this goes and what details may be important. So please tell us more about your working system. I'm using: Toshiba 3401 CDDrive (id 1) DPT 2022/95 Controller Micropolis 2112 Hard Drive (id 0) AMI Enterprise III Motherboard (don't know if this could be relevant) Anyway, CDPlayer won't send any commands but it reads the drive status fine. For example, I've written another CDPlayer.app which works fine, and if I run the orginal at the same time, it accurately shows position info and other related stuff. But it will not ever send a command to the drive. I would like to find the answer to the problem, but we need more info to go on, from both working and non-working systems. -Jason -- -------- ---------- Jason LaPierre -- University of Rochester -- lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu -------- (no NeXTmail) ----------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: shawn@monitor.com Subject: NSFIP on Toshiba Portege? Message-ID: <Cp38A0.2up@monitor.com> Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick) Organization: Monitor Company / IE Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 19:46:47 GMT anyone seen/heard of NSFIP running on the newish 3400 portege's? shawn -- Shawn Broderick Monitor Company / Information Engineering shawn@monitor.com (617) 252-2090
From: brady@mercury.interpath.net (Donald C Brady - Comintel Inc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Date: 30 Apr 1994 20:43:35 GMT Organization: Interpath -- An Internet access provider Message-ID: <2puftn$7ih@redstone.interpath.net> Which of the 3COM Etherlink 3 Combo or the SMC Ultra Elite Combo would be the better choice with NextStep for Intel. Both companies are offering 2 for $100 evaluation kits. Thanks for any experience or opinion/advise. Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) Subject: I fixed my NeXT mouse Message-ID: <1994May1.015849.12220@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 01:58:49 GMT Hello Netters, I just thought I would share a somewhat banal but successful mouse-fixing story. Already on my second mouse (non-ADB, mono station) in three years, I noticed my mouse started to behave weirdly: the pointer would skip, the motion would be uneven, etc. I opened up the mouse (4 screws in the back) and took off the white plastic collar which surrounds the mouse ball (3 screws). A hair was caught in the mouse rollers (I would not have noticed it had I not taken the thing apart, since you can't really see the rollers well from below), and I removed it. It works fine now! When this happened last time, my solution was to bang the mouse hard against the mouse pad, which worked for a while (it must of moved whatever was caught in the rollers). Of course, after a few weeks of banging the mouse did not work at all. So do not be afraid to take apart your mouse and clean up the rollers! -- Michael Suk-Young Chwe chwe@uchicago.edu (NeXTMail OK) __|__ | / _| ( ) Economics Department, University of Chicago / \ | /\__| __|_|__ 1126 E 59th Street, Chicago, IL 60637 USA __|__ | / ( ) Facsimile 312-702-8490
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ALR Pentium and NS... bad idea? Date: 30 Apr 1994 23:09:59 -0400 Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877 Message-ID: <2pv6i7$p8q@great-miami.iac.net> I am purchasing an ALR Pentium - 60.. 32 megs of ram, VL bus, Adaptec VL scsi controller.. OR same machine.. w/PCI bus and some mixture of ISA cards for now until some decent PCI cards come out.. Will this be a decent NS system.. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, esp with the choice of graphics adapter., -- Brick Eksten Eco Development brick@iac.net EcoDev@cup.portal.com
From: rgc@twix.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ALR Pentium and NS... bad idea? Date: 1 May 1994 16:17:41 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <2q0kn5$72i@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <2pv6i7$p8q@great-miami.iac.net> Brick Eksten (brick@iac.net) wrote: : I am purchasing an ALR Pentium - 60.. 32 megs of ram, VL bus, Adaptec VL scsi : controller.. OR same machine.. w/PCI bus and some mixture of ISA cards for now I don't think any Adaptec VL SCSI card is supported by NS (except maybe in 1542 mode). : until some decent PCI cards come out.. Will this be a decent NS system.. : Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, esp with the choice of : graphics adapter., -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Gianfranco Pocecai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP & Transputers Date: 1 May 1994 16:20:04 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q0krk$5ea@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Hi everybody! I'm looking for any kind of information (software & hardware) to use transputers with NEXTSTEP. thanks Gianfranco -- Gianfranco Pocecai President of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group University of Milano - Computer Science Department Via Comelico, 39/41 20135 Milano - Italy E-mail : gpoc@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Tyler Perkins <perkins@spot.Colorado.EDU> Subject: NS on IBM Eduquest? Message-ID: <Cp5BGw.1F3@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU> Sender: usenet@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU (Net News Administrator) Organization: APAS Dept., University of Colorado, Boulder Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 22:50:56 GMT IBM has loaned our group an Eduquest Fifty computer. It uses a 33MHz 486SX and comes with a 400MB IDE drive and some nice multimedia hardware. We'd really like to run NEXTSTEP on it, since we're a Mac and Unix (mostly NEXTSTEP) office. Has anyone out there run NS on an Eduquest Fifty? I believe it meets all the system requirements listed in the April 11 Hardware Compatibility Guide. The only IBMs in NeXTanswers seem to be the ValuePoint Series of machines mentioned under "Listed Systems". However, the following statement is found there, and it has me worried: The IDE controller integrated into the IBM ValuePoint computers is incompatible with NEXTSTEP's current IDE driver. Use SCSI hard disk drives and adapters on these systems. Is the same controller used in the Eduquest Fifty? If so, is there any chance that the NEXTSTEP driver will be made compatible in the near future? I'd love to hear from someone who has any info. at all about this. Also, did you have trouble installing a floating point coprocessor? Were you able to live with 1MB VRAM (for color), or was it necessary to get more video memory? Thanks for your help, and please excuse my Intel ignorance. I have very little experience with DOS and Windows. After using them on this new Eduquest, however, I see I haven't missed much -- UGLY! Tyler Perkins perkins@colorado.edu
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PAS 16 and Adaptec 1542b on VESA/ISA machine, panic Date: 1 May 1994 09:32:14 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2pvsuu$16g@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <Coy0xy.7AE@utstat.toronto.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rob Tibshirani writes > In article <next2.767342936@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: > > >Wrong. It was no problem at all to boot from a drive attached to the > >Adaptec and let the PAS play sounds. But from time to time the ISA bus > >locked up due to two cards busmastering. > > I call that not working properly, or do you feel that this is acceptable? I didn't say that this is acceptable. I was one of the first guys blaming NeXT for their lack of working drivers for sound and serials. I just said that it is no problem to boot. > That's fine, but my system works perfectly without having to switch to > a more expensive EISA/VL combination ( EISA cards are typically more > expensive and in any case that bus does not have a bright future). Maybe. But _right now_, it just works. Can you say this about PCI, too? > Incidentally, OS/2 manages to have a rather nice OS on that horrible ISA > bus with sound and all kinds of other things. So do many other OS's. Lots of people had horrible problems with OS/2, and almost all of them for _hardware reasons_. Changing a motherboard or an adapter card was often the cure for crashes and failures. This is another proof for what I've said about PC hardware. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.uni-stuttgart.de /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 400 dpi B&W printer & NS_FIP? Date: 2 May 1994 01:07:44 GMT Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q1jp0$32c@rain.psg.com> I am thinking about buying a NeXT printer for my Intel based pc running NeXTStep.. Is this a good combo? or should I go out and buy a new PostScript laserprinter? I've seen a few NeXT lasers on the net for around $450.00.. Is this a good deal? Are toner cartidges readily available? and if so where?, and the cost.. -- Steven Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com
From: william@pinoko.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PPD files ? Date: 2 May 1994 04:28:28 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2q1vhc$csj@agate.berkeley.edu> Are there any PPD files out there (besides the ones that NeXT supplies ?) ? If not, how does one hook a printer that doesn't have a PPD to a NeXT (black) ? If a printer bills itself as "Laserwriter compatible", can we just use the LaserWriter PPD's ? Bill Grosso
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 400 dpi B&W printer & NS_FIP? Date: 2 May 1994 05:18:04 GMT Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q22ec$7d1@rain.psg.com> References: <2q1jp0$32c@rain.psg.com> In article <2q1jp0$32c@rain.psg.com> steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > I am thinking about buying a NeXT printer for my Intel based pc running > NeXTStep.. Is this a good combo? or should I go out and buy a new > PostScript laserprinter? I've seen a few NeXT lasers on the net for > around $450.00.. Is this a good deal? Are toner cartidges readily > available? and if so where?, and the cost.. > > -- > Steven Kornreich > steve@eps.rain.com Woops.. Sorry about this.. I need new glasses, I was reading the 3.2 Hardware compatibilty guide and I thought it said under printers NeXT - NeXT printer.. I missed the word "Color" -- Steven Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] EISA SCSI-2 Adapters Date: 2 May 1994 06:10:46 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q25h7INN2p8@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Can anyone e-mail me relative performance data for NS/I supported EISA SCSI host adapters? In particular, I'm interested in information on the DPTs. In addition, are there plans to write a driver for the Adaptec 2742 running in "enhanced" mode (or whatever they call it when it's not emulating a 1542...), or has it been done already? Finally, does anyone have performance info for the NCR PCI host adapter with the Talus driver? Thank you very much for any help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: PPD files ? Message-ID: <1994May2.065741.18723@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <2q1vhc$csj@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 06:57:41 GMT In article <2q1vhc$csj@agate.berkeley.edu> william@pinoko.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso) writes: >> >> >>Are there any PPD files out there (besides the >>ones that NeXT supplies ?) ? >> Ftp on over to ftp.adobe.com and grab a PPD for any printer that has an Adobe licensed interpreter. They also have a mail server, but since I have ftp access, I can never remember how to use it... I grabbed the Mac versions, as their names were much more NeXT like, and a little emacs macro turned all those tildes to underscores. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Intel][Macintosh] NS on a Mac? Date: 1 May 1994 23:48:13 GMT Organization: Sonoma State University, Rohnert Park, California Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2q1f3t$dbj@nic-nac.CSU.net> I've been wondering if perhaps anyone has tried to run NS on a 80486 Intel board living inside of a Macintosh. I've got a Quadra 950 and a color NeXTStation, both of which are enormous. It would be incredibly hip if I could run NeXTStep Intel on my Macintosh. desperately groping for space in a small bedroom... --thomas-- thomas@goldleaf.com <NeXTMail okay> thomas@groucho.sonoma.edu <NeXTMail okay>
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB mouse and soundbox for sale Date: 2 May 1994 00:00:42 GMT Organization: Sonoma State University, Rohnert Park, California Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2q1fra$e5t@nic-nac.CSU.net> I have an ADB mouse and soundbox for sale. They are both in great shape. I'd like somewhere around $250 for them. I also need a standard NeXT mouse and could work that into the trade. --thomas-- thomas@goldleaf.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: NeXT 400 dpi B&W printer & NS_FIP? Message-ID: <1994May2.081326.12784@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2q1jp0$32c@rain.psg.com> Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 08:13:26 GMT In article <2q1jp0$32c@rain.psg.com> steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > I am thinking about buying a NeXT printer for my Intel based pc running > NeXTStep.. Is this a good combo? or should I go out and buy a new > PostScript laserprinter? I've seen a few NeXT lasers on the net for > around $450.00.. Is this a good deal? Are toner cartidges readily > available? and if so where?, and the cost.. The black lasers are only hardware compatible with black hardware. They used a special port, and were used as 'engines' only. All the RIPing was done on the main system. You can probably find a cheap PS laser for not much more than that, which will work with your PC NeXTSTEP system. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PPD files ? Date: 2 May 1994 15:07:00 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2q34uk$rmc@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2q1vhc$csj@agate.berkeley.edu> <1994May2.065741.18723@news.media.mit.edu> In article <1994May2.065741.18723@news.media.mit.edu>, Michael B. Johnson <wave@media.mit.edu> wrote: >In article <2q1vhc$csj@agate.berkeley.edu> william@pinoko.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso) writes: >>> >>> >>>Are there any PPD files out there (besides the >>>ones that NeXT supplies ?) ? >>> > >Ftp on over to ftp.adobe.com and grab a PPD for any printer that has an >Adobe licensed interpreter. They also have a mail server, but since I >have ftp access, I can never remember how to use it... > >I grabbed the Mac versions, as their names were much more NeXT like, and >a little emacs macro turned all those tildes to underscores. > If you cannot easily find the appropriate PPD file on your NeXT or at the above FTP site check the MAC disks that came with your printer. My HP4ML had a PPD file hidden on the 800K Mac floppy. Unforunately NS won't read this old (and generally funky) format, you'll need to find a real Mac to do the work. Also converting from Mac text format to real ASCII is an extra step. Otherwise use a PPD file closest in features to the one you own. You may have to play around till you find a close match for the features (paper trays, resolution etc) that you have. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: OD problems again Message-ID: <1994Apr28.093552.3112@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <Coq5E1.7s6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 09:35:52 GMT Try to insert the OD before you boot ! Thus when you're still in the monitor. If it doesnt eject, wait about 3 minutes and then boot. Perhabs you'll be lucky to be able to read the disk. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) Subject: Mac -> Next 128 optical Message-ID: <rscottCp6p2E.6M3@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 16:42:14 GMT Has anyone with a 128meg, 3.5" ext. optical SCSI had any success with NS 3.2 reading Mac formatted discs. Note - this is not the Next optical. Does anyone have any ideas on transporting large (1 to 40meg) graphics files between Mac and Next. Syquest, Bernoulli? Charlie Dvorak rscott@netcom.com
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Date: 2 May 1994 17:24:43 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <2q3d0r$1kj@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <2puftn$7ih@redstone.interpath.net> In article <2puftn$7ih@redstone.interpath.net> brady@mercury.interpath.net (Donald C Brady - Comintel Inc) writes: > Which of the 3COM Etherlink 3 Combo or the SMC Ultra Elite Combo > would be the better choice with NextStep for Intel. > > Both companies are offering 2 for $100 evaluation kits. > > Thanks for any experience or opinion/advise. > > Don Please do not use 3 Com, they are the worst I have ever seen. Use SMC or Intel Etherexpress. Attention: We have had trouble with the Elite Ultra (not Elite). Gerd iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Walbronn, Germany
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CDPlayer Help Date: 2 May 1994 18:38:37 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q3hbd$da4@fermat.mayo.edu> I know there was a long discussion a couple months ago on getting CDPlayer.app to work. Unfortunately, I can't find my copy. Anybody out there remember the magic incantation? Specifics: Intel GX/P with Adaptec 1542 SCSI card (NS 3.2) 1Gb drive at SCSI 0 (external) Exabyte 4200c DAT drive at SCSI 4 NEC 3xe CD-ROM drive at SCSI 5 Devices are in the above order on the SCSI chain (CD-ROM drive last device on chain) Drive works fine with data CDs and photo CDs. However, when I insert an audio CD, I get a panel from the WSM saying "Please eject disk in external drive 1" The following appears on the console: probing for CDROM probing for DOS SCSI IO status error SCSI IO status error probing for mac probing for cdaudio When I launch CDPlayer.app manually, it complains about not finding the CD-ROM drive and gives the following on the console: cdutil: openDrive: Couldn't open /dev/rsd2h (-1) cdutil: openDrive: No such device or address Now my CD-ROM drive is /dev/sd1. Is there a magic dwrite to get CDPlayer to look in the right place? Tidbits: permissions on the executable are set correctly (+s for owner root) and neither public window server or logging in as root seems to change anything. Audio discs have been Peter Gabriel and Miles Davis. Haven't tried Mozart yet ;-) Anybody have the old thread archived or any suggestions on how to get things working? Thanks -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: IBM PS/ValuePoint machines Message-ID: <Cp70GA.CzF@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 20:48:09 GMT Any known problems with the PS/ValuePoint machines? Do they run NS okay? -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: mail-ordering CD-ROM & Adaptor Date: 2 May 1994 23:25:05 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q424h$p7n@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> I'm looking to buy an Adaptec 1542C SCSI adaptor and an external CD-ROM to install NSfIP 3.2. I was thinking of mail-ordering it somewhere. If you have ordered such a combination, or know a good and cheap place to order, please let me know. For the CD-ROM drive, I was thinking of a Toshiba 3401, but will consider others. Thanks, Greg. <No NeXTmail> ****************************************************************************** * Gregory Baratoff e-mail : baratoff@cfar.umd.edu * * Center for Automation Research * * University of Maryland * * College Park, MD 20742 * ******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hornkvjm@merlin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) Subject: Assembling a PC for NeXTStep Message-ID: <HORNKVJM.94May2164242@merlin.whitman.edu> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Whitman College Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 23:42:32 GMT I am looking into assembling a system for NeXTStep from scratch. I ran into a couple of questions immediately: Would there be any problems with choice of motherboards? (I am mostly thinking about a Pentium system.) SVC are selling Pentium/66 for $1050, Pentium/90 motherboards for $1450, does anyone know of a cheaper source? Does Pentium give any major performace premium over a DX2/66 in NS? Which gfx cards work well in NS? (I'll want color. And it had better be fast...:) How good is the IDE driver? How much would I win by getting a SCSI harddrive? (I assume I need the interface for the installation CD, anyway.) Is 5-6 hundred MB enough? (I plan to get the student version.) Do I need more than 16MB RAM? Would there be any problems involved in installing NS and OS/2 at the same time? And, finally, are there any good Neural Network simulators for NeXTStep? Thanks! :>John Post it or Email, whatever you see fit! _______________________________________________________________________________ |John Hornkvist |Amiga and UNIX programmer (C,C++) |Whitman College |NeXTStep should be my next step |Walla Walla | | |UNIX gets it done |hornkvjm@math.whitman.edu |Amiga makes it possible |hornkvjm@whitman.edu | ---- Stay Objective! |_______________________________|_______________________________~_______~______
From: mallen@palpatine (Mark Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What type of tape do I need? Date: 3 May 1994 02:00:36 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <2q4b84$9v2@news.acns.nwu.edu> Distrubution: world I have procured a SCSI connector cable, a power cable and yes, even a terminator for my old tape drive. Now what I need are the tapes for the drive. I found out what kind of tape drive I have after I inspected the signature on the bus. It's a TEAC tape drive, MT-2ST/N50. It looks like it takes standard cassette tapes (not the 2120 or 2000 size of tapes.) Any help on who, or where I can get some would be most appreciated. -- mallen@nwu.edu (NeXTMail welcome) Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. finger mallen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu for PGP public key
From: jgulas@next.acs.uci.edu (John D. Gulas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP and MIDI Date: 3 May 1994 05:19:19 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2q4msn$ccs@news.service.uci.edu> Hi all, Does anyone know of a cheep solution for: 1) Hooking up an A to D converter to the DSP port...Somthing I could build, something kind of cheep. In 16 bits, that will work with most of the little programs like O-scope and sound editor? Does anyone have any schmatics. i wanted to use motorala's A/D chip but it is on order everywhere. 2) What is a cheep MIDI interface that works with my 040 board. Does the MIDI man for the mac work ( the $40 as well as the $100 one). Does any one have any suggestions? Thanks a Bunch John Gulas
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DeskWriter works! (almost) Date: 3 May 1994 06:23:42 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2q4qle$3ij@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Summary: Cable for DeskWriter printer We've got a DeskWriter 560C (yes, the Mac kind) hooked up to a NeXTStation at 57600 bps, and it's almost working. However, flow control does not, in effect, control the flow, so we get FIFO overflows in the DeskWriter. (It is actually quite amusing that the DeskWriter has several different error messages for what is in effect the same condition...). Using "manual flow control", ie. stopping and restarting the driver, gets us a complete page, so once we get the flow under control, things should be happy. Anyway, looking at the docs reveals that the DeskWriter uses DTR (pin 1) for flow control, while NeXT flow control is RTS/CTS, so it would seem that modifying a cable to map DTR to CTS should do the trick. Has anyone done this? Has it worked? Or is there something else to Thanks in advance for any answers, Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Where can I buy an optical drive for 3" 128Mb for NeXT computers ? Message-ID: <jscogginCp7wAu.AqB@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <2p47u4$beb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2pc5ro$jl3@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 08:16:06 GMT gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) sayz: >eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) writes: >> I'm searching to buy two optical drives for 3" 128Mb optical floppies >> for NeXT computers. Where should I buy that ? At what price ? >> >> Best regards, >> >> - Eric > >I assume you're really thinking about 3.5" 128Mb Magneto-Optical >disk drives. These are really nice to have. Note that some of >the more popular MO drives will not work on NeXT hardware (my >understanding is that they *do* work on Intel-based hardware >which is running NS/Intel). Ones that will *not* work are >drives using the "Fujitsu DynaMO" mechanism, or ones using >the "Pinnacle Tahoe" mechanism. <trimmed...> >-- >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu >ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA I bought a PLI 3.5" MO for my TurboColor, and it works flawlessly. Inserting a new disk brings up the initialize window. Inserting a MO formatted for a Mac mounts it on the shelf of the Browser. I've used it for almost 2 years now on both my Mac and NeXT. Cost? Well, back then it was around $1600. Now they are about $1000. It uses Sony guts. Rather loud with two fans, but otherwise I love it. Great for backups. Jerry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Mac -> Next 128 optical Message-ID: <jscogginCp7wrt.BB6@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) References: <rscottCp6p2E.6M3@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 08:26:17 GMT rscott@netcom.com (Robert S. Scott) sayz: >Has anyone with a 128meg, 3.5" ext. optical SCSI >had any success with NS 3.2 reading Mac formatted >discs. Note - this is not the Next optical. >Does anyone have any ideas on transporting large >(1 to 40meg) graphics files between Mac and Next. >Syquest, Bernoulli? > >Charlie Dvorak >rscott@netcom.com Ya, works great. I do it all the time. Jerry // jscoggin@netcom.com
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] Driver for BusLogic BT445S SCSI adapter Date: 3 May 1994 06:09:43 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9405031125.AA00647@hurka> Hi All, we would like to get some feedback, from all of you, who tried to install our driver for BusLogic BT445S SCSI adapter. Please, email us the answers to the following two questins: 1. What is your hardware configuration? We are especially interested in your version of BIOS and firmware of BT445S. So far we know about one successful installation with firmware 3.36 and one unsuccessful with 3.37. We would also like to know if someone installed our driver together with Pro Audio Spectrum, since there is a chance for better sound. 2. How fast is our driver compared to the NeXT's driver, measured with DrivePerformance.app. We would also like to ask if somebody could test the driver with BusLogic PCI card. According to the information we have, PCI card is very similar to VL-Bus and there is a change that our driver will work with it. Thanks in advance Tomas Hurka & Ondrej Cada tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTAMIL OK ocs@earn.cvut.cz ASCII only
From: bzfwunde@.zib-berlin.de (Roland Wunderling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best hardware for NeXTStep ? Date: 3 May 1994 11:47:21 GMT Organization: Konrad Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q5dk9$64c@newsserv.zib-berlin.de> Sorry, if this is a FAQ: Which would currently be the ideal hardware for running NeXTStep ? I'm considering buying new hardware for running NeXTStep. Thanks in advance, Roland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: shawn@monitor.com Subject: NeXT and Shiva LanRovers????? Message-ID: <Cp2yzE.2so@monitor.com> Keywords: Next, Shiva, LanRover, Modem Sender: shawn@monitor.com (Shawn Broderick) Organization: Monitor Company / IE Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 16:26:01 GMT we have a Shiva LanRover with eight modems on it that we use for Novell, WFW, and Macintosh remote connections. i'm curious to know if anyone has experience getting it to work with NeXT's. on the DOS/Mac side it can provide the equivalent of SLIP, but i'm only interested in being able to access the local LanRover (it's about 20 feet from my office) to use it for dial-out from my desk to BBS's and whatnot. the LanRover can talk TCP/IP. any info/experience? shawn -- Shawn Broderick Monitor Company / Information Engineering shawn@monitor.com (617) 252-2090 Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. -- Emo Phillips -- Shawn Broderick Monitor Company / Information Engineering shawn@monitor.com (617) 252-2090
From: michael@cogito.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (Michael Suessner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BuildDisk problems Date: 3 May 1994 15:29:48 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2q5qlc$517@email.tuwien.ac.at> Hallo I have a Quantum PD1225S 1.2GB hard disk. I am trying to install a bootable system using the BuildDisk application. If I do not install more than one partion on the disk, it seems that the BuildDisk application has no trouble to install the system, but when I want to create 2 partitions (the first has 400MB and the second uses the rest of disk space) then I get the following errors: - Limiting sectors to those bios-accessible, from 2395980 to 627504 - Requested partition size larger than disk - QUANTUM PD1225S 311001/: unknown disk name What's the problem? Do I have an old incompatible firmware ROM? When I use the initialize command from the WM-menu only 10kB are initialized! Any suggestions? Suessner Michael
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Date: 3 May 1994 16:13:36 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2q5t7g$60n@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2puftn$7ih@redstone.interpath.net> <2q3d0r$1kj@balu.ixpoint.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Please do not use 3 Com, they are the worst I have ever seen. Use SMC or >Intel Etherexpress. Attention: We have had trouble with the Elite Ultra >(not Elite). Same here : SMC Elite 16 works fine, but SMC Elite Ultra does not work at all. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: andym@hq.af.mil (Andy McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IBM PS/ValuePoint machines Date: 3 May 1994 16:56:25 GMT Organization: 7th Communications Group, Wash D.C. Message-ID: <2q5vnp$jdk@hq.hq.af.mil> References: <Cp70GA.CzF@xexos.com> In article <Cp70GA.CzF@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: > Any known problems with the PS/ValuePoint machines? Do they run NS okay? > > -- > Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 > Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 > London mark@xexos.com A couple: The built in IDE controller is not supported. Period. In fact, I tried a new IDE controller, and it still would not work. So go SCSI, or forget it. I also had trouble with the on board S3 video. Maybe there was a conflict with my Adaptec 1542C, but NS 3.2 would only support black and white VGA. All other modes did not work. I called NeXT to ask about this problem, but all they told me was that they had incorporated IBM's S3 card into the new S3 driver release... and that it had not been tested. If you are buying new equipment, and can avoid IBM PS/ValuePoints, for NEXTSTEP, you may have fewer problems looking at other brands. -Andy -- Lt Andy McConnell Communications Engineer andym@hq.af.mil 7th Communications Group, USAF, Pentagon (Opinions expressed are solely those of the author and not the USAF)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: matt@xexos.com (Matt Ware) Subject: Colour Laser printer on black hardware Message-ID: <Cp8J3q.G66@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 16:28:38 GMT We have a client who want's to put a colour laser on to black hardware has anyone have any ideas as to the best one to recommend to him in both functionality and compatibility. Thanks in advance Matt -- All the views expressed here are mine and not my employers \ / * \ / Logan <matt@xexos.com> NeXTMail O.K. Xexos Ltd (London) - ** - * * - ** - God said let there be light! and I said bollocks to that! / \ * / \
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CDPlayer Help (SOLUTION) Date: 3 May 1994 15:08:42 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q5pdq$30h@fermat.mayo.edu> References: <2q3hbd$da4@fermat.mayo.edu> In article <2q3hbd$da4@fermat.mayo.edu> I wrote: > > I know there was a long discussion a couple months ago on getting > CDPlayer.app to work. Unfortunately, I can't find my copy. Anybody out > there remember the magic incantation? > > Specifics: > > Intel GX/P with Adaptec 1542 SCSI card (NS 3.2) > 1Gb drive at SCSI 0 (external) > Exabyte 4200c DAT drive at SCSI 4 > NEC 3xe CD-ROM drive at SCSI 5 > [lots of details deleted] Many thanks to Peter Kron for the solution to the above problem. Seems that with NEC drives, you need to set the rear dip switch to SCSI-2 instead of SCSI-1. After making the change, my drive works like a charm. -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: Suggestions for 1GB HD & VLB SCSI controller for NSI Message-ID: <1994May3.172749.2753@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 17:27:49 GMT I'm going to buy a 1GB HD sometime soon, and I'd appreciate any and all suggestions about which drives are recommended, or un-recommended. E-mail or post is fine, I check this group regularly. Also, suggestions on VLB SCSI-2 controllers would be nice. LT -- _____________________________________________________________________ /| | | | There are only two organizations that I know of that send armed | | | men in dark suits and sunglasses to take money they haven't earned: | | | the mafia and the government. -- Lenny Turetsky | | | | | | Lenny Turetsky (aka) lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu | | |_____________________________________________________________________| |/_____________________________________________________________________/
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC Versa and Intel Etherexpress Date: 3 May 1994 18:36:29 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Message-ID: <2q65jd$g23@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Has anyone succeeded in installing the Intel Etherexpress card in the docking station of a NEC Versa? I have tried everything I can think of and but can't get my configuration to work. At this point, I don't know if the problem is software or hardware. I'll try the board in another NS/Intel configuration we to see if it is the board itself. It would help me to know that the Etherexpress card will even work in the NEC docking station. Can some kind soul please confirm that it does? Thanks in advance, Craig Rasmussen University of Michigan
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Meaning of graphics resolutions Date: 03 May 1994 17:51:41 GMT Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94May3105142@fisher.Stanford.EDU> Our lab just purchased some 21' NEC monitors and JCIS computers. The problem is that even though the monitor is large, you don't get any more "real" screen because the resolution is poorer. Only 12 apps fit in the dock, compared to the 13 on my old slab. I assume this is directly due to the 1024x768 vs 1120x832 resolution as 768/832=12/13. The loss of screen space is only part of the problem -- it is also the case that things look fuzzy when magnified. I realize this is not exactly a marvellous insight on my part -- it is just the case that I have never previously considered buying PC hardware with all the available (mostly bad) options. Anyway, I have a couple of questions (I promise to summarize answers). First, what do we need to do to get higher resolution on our JCIS machines? Second, what should one look to buy right now (people keep asking *me* for advice) given that the minium acceptable monitor size is 17', the minimum acceptable resolution is 1120x832, and the minimum graphics speed is that of a Turbo color (the speed of the JCIS machines is very good, btw)? How does a higher resolution affect speed anyway? Memory requirements? Looking through the April 9 compatibility list, I see few system that support high resolutions in mono, and very few in color. I see lots of graphics adapters that support high resolutions. Why the discrepancy? I notice that the Gecko has a high resolution 17' monitor as an option -- will NS support that? Finally, why are no Pentiums listed in the compatibility list, even though plenty of people seem to have them? Just trying to hack my way through the hardware jungle... -- --- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 3 May 1994 14:46:29 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2q6665$r65@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Product Information Server online NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Much of this information is also available using the World Wide Web, <http://digifix.digifix.com/index.html> Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep WWW Information Server online --------------------------------------------------------- A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon as they become available. NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server online --------------------------------------------------------- The NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server is now available for product literature and pricing from NEXTSTEP developers. You can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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From: rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Date: 3 May 1994 19:49:56 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Message-ID: <2q69t4$1ir@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <2puftn$7ih@redstone.interpath.net> Last time I knew (i.e. when I had the card), the NS/I driver for the 3C509 did NOT support 10BASET or 10BASE5(although the driver does have AUI as an option, it resulted in daily crashes). I highly recommend the Intel EtherExpress16. It's never given me a bit of trouble. Richard Foote (rfoote@umich.edu) In article <2puftn$7ih@redstone.interpath.net> brady@mercury.interpath.net (Donald C Brady - Comintel Inc) writes: > Which of the 3COM Etherlink 3 Combo or the SMC Ultra Elite Combo > would be the better choice with NextStep for Intel. > > Both companies are offering 2 for $100 evaluation kits. > > Thanks for any experience or opinion/advise. > > Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Audio-DAT - known specs to digital i/o interface for backup? Message-ID: <Cp8KIM.GG@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 16:59:10 GMT Hi, since I do still miss a backup facility I came to think of buying an AUDIO-DAT drive. This could replace my old Sony Walkman for audio-recording AND work as a backup device. The Audio-Dats seem to have a digital i/o, at least the portable sony and Aiwa do if I remember correctly. But I could not find any specs in the documentation and was even told in a store such specs were not available for the public. Sigh. Now, I wonder if some kind soul knows anything about it - I guess I might still know how to build some hardware to connect to serial port - or even better to the dsp-port. A little programming should be all it needs, then. Anyone done it before? Anyone know anything about it? Juergen --- Juergen Sell E-Mail js@icem.de ( NeXTMail ok ) Deisterstr. 18 Fax ++49-511-440617 BRD 30449 Hannover Fon ++49-511-440688 == What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of == is a new generation of soap powder ?
From: robertg@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Guy Roberts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Possible to use HP Laserjet 4ML or Apple LaserWriter 320 ? Date: 3 May 1994 17:59:01 GMT Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation, High Timber St, London, UK Message-ID: <2q63d5$bl@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Could somebody direct me to a document that summarises what needs to be done in order to get a PostScript Level 2 printer to work with NS 3.2 ? The hardware guide just says "Standard Adobe PostScript printers". The SysAdmin release notes mutter for a while about PostScript Printer Description files. I have checked the FAQs and NeXTAnswers. There does not seem to be a *summary* of how-to-add-a-novel- kind-of-printer-to-the-system. Am I right in thinking that if I get a PPD file for a given printer from ps-file-server@adobe.com, get the cable right and then use PrintManager.app to create the printer, then I can use the kinds of laserjet printers mentioned in the title ? Or am I a half wit ? Or what ? Philosophy: How are novice users supposed to do this kind of thing ? Witchcraft ? Guy Roberts.
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Intel][Macintosh] NS on a Mac? Date: 3 May 1994 19:26:30 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2q68h6$dk2@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2q1f3t$dbj@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <2q1f3t$dbj@nic-nac.CSU.net> thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) writes: > I've been wondering if perhaps anyone has tried to run NS on a > 80486 Intel board living inside of a Macintosh. I've got a Quadra > 950 and a color NeXTStation, both of which are enormous. It would > be incredibly hip if I could run NeXTStep Intel on my Macintosh. You can get Quadra and NextStep performance out of one thin machine if you buy a NeXT slab and get DayDream for it. You will have to reboot to switch from one operating system to the other. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: wwtaylor@aol.com (Wwtaylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? <This is the real one!! Date: 3 May 1994 14:31:05 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2q6599$6al@search01.news.aol.com> References: <Apr.15.01.51.03.1994.25530@gandalf.rutgers.edu> In article <Apr.15.01.51.03.1994.25530@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: I think NS on a PowerMac would be a simpler solution than supporting PReP PPC systems. 1st, Even the 1st generation P-Mac's have standard video that can support 16-bit color. SCSI is standard on all Mac's. Sound is standard on all Mac's. ADB, AppleTalk, and Ethernet are standard on all Mac's. The PowerMac is the only system that will provide the level of HW and SW integration NeXT had with black HW. IBM's PReP systems will have the same problem as Intel systems: too many peripheral choices and NO drivers for NS. NS could return from the dead with a PowerMac port, especially on the 1st generation PowerMac's. After all, unix _is_ portable; NuBus should not be a problem. Most new PowerMac users would jump at the chance to run NS. I bet upwards of 50% would get it and more would get it just to try it out. NS for P-Mac's would definitely outsell NS for Intel. William Taylor (student at Rhodes College (rhodes.edu) via AOL)
From: utans@sake.cse.ogi.edu (Joachim Utans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Support for Adaptec 1520/22? Date: 3 May 1994 23:13:28 GMT Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute Message-ID: <2q6lqo$sbe@reuter.cse.ogi.edu> Subject says it all: I would like to test/install NeXTstep 3.2 on a Intel box that has an Adaptec 1522 SCSI hostadapter installed (i.e. non-busmater). Is that Adapter supported or is support planed? regards, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joachim Utans OGI, Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering utans@cse.ogi.edu P.O. Box 91000 (503) 690-1151 FAX: (503) 690-1553 Portland, OR 97291-1000
Organization: Central Michigan University Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 21:34:56 EDT From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Message-ID: <94123.21345634II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem: NS/I 3.2, ATI GUP 2MB, Gateway 2000... Hi there -- I've been quite busy this semester and unable to use my machine more than a couple hours a week, so I have not had time to really work with NS/I 3.2 since I installed it in January. Now that the semester has ended, I really started trying to get everything configured how I'd like it. My problem is that I am getting errors when trying to load the device driver for my ATI GUP w/ 2MB. Here's what I get: mach: Display0: Assuming a local bus ATI card. mach: Display: Failed to match modes. Using default mode. mach: Registering: Display0 It then comes up in a color mode, I believe 1024x768, so I assume that it is using the ATI driver, but just not correctly. I tried switching to Standard VGA temporarily, removing the ATI driver, then reinstalling it, but the same problems occur. I did not have this problem during beta testing of the NS/I Prerelease or NS/I 3.1 release. However, about the same time I installed NS/I 3.2, I also had to have my GUP replaced by Gateway because of some motherboard problems (they replaced the motherboard and ATI card). The new card that they have given me is slightly different from my old card (my old one had 1MB standard, and I had to add the 2nd meg and RAMDAC -- the new card is 2MB standard and also has the RAMDAC). The only thing I can thing of besides a configuration problem is that maybe I have a incompatible revision of the ATI card (I believe some people have mentioned this). Can someone tell me what the "incompatible" revs of the ATI card are and how I locate on the card what version I have is? Thanks very much! - John Goggan john@opus.csv.cmich.edu.
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: formatting problem with a Seagate 2.1GB Date: 4 May 1994 02:53:04 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2q72mg$ocg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Keywords: it's a floor wax! it's a bath foam! OK, I bought a fine new Seagate Barracuda 12550/N from Pixelated recently, nicely formatted and partitioned and all. We installed it in ariend's Cube to check it out (my ND is an old '030 Cube that's been 'pamped ahp' and has mountigs for just two internals) and tried to run BuildDisk on it. With everything we tried we got the same error message: "boot block extends beyond front porch" and got nowhere. We can initialize it fine from Workspace and use it as a BIG extra disk, but not a system disk. So, what gives? What are we overlooking? There's 2 partitions on the drive, a 1.7GB and a 174MB; when we use BuildDisk it sees the whole drive and we use partition panel to choose a similar division. I'm flummoxed and in need of space and speed. Soon. -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others "They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Possible to use HP Laserjet 4ML or Apple LaserWriter 320 ? Date: 4 May 1994 04:48:01 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2q79e1$9km@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2q63d5$bl@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> In article <2q63d5$bl@gpo.gb.swissbank.com>, Guy Roberts <robertg@bonham.sbc.co.uk> wrote: >Could somebody direct me to a document that summarises what >needs to be done in order to get a PostScript Level 2 printer >to work with NS 3.2 ? The hardware guide just says "Standard >Adobe PostScript printers". The SysAdmin release notes mutter >for a while about PostScript Printer Description files. I >have checked the FAQs and NeXTAnswers. > >There does not seem to be a *summary* of how-to-add-a-novel- >kind-of-printer-to-the-system. > >Am I right in thinking that if I get a PPD file for a given >printer from ps-file-server@adobe.com, get the cable right >and then use PrintManager.app to create the printer, then >I can use the kinds of laserjet printers mentioned in the >title ? Or am I a half wit ? Or what ? > For Adobe Licensed interpreters in printers, there probably exists a PPD file for it. HP ppd files are not in adobe.com last time I checked. There is an HP ftp site (name escapes me) that is run by volunteers. In general the most basic printer functions should work if you choose a PPD file with features close to your model. For advanced features like different trays and duplexing, you proably need the real PPD files for 100% functionality. For the HP 4ML, I used the 4M PPD for a while w/o ill effects. Turned out that the Mac floppies supplied with the unit contained the proper PPD file. Getting them off the 800K disk and converted to Ascii took a real Macintosh and some patience. Just drop the file in with the other PPD file, cable it up and it just works. You questions aren't out of line, but believe it or not its really not that hard to install a printer. Getting the correct PPD file can be a hassle if its not in NS. Most printer instructions are for DOS/WINDOWS or MAC and even the support number at HP was clueless. But compared to what I had to do compared with Windoze its painless. If its not a licensed interpreter, all bets are off. I have used NS with Pacific Data cartridges in LJIII's. Not bad, but not perfect. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: thomas@arnold.fkp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (Thomas Traexler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Date: 4 May 1994 06:22:46 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <2q7evm$je8@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <2q3d0r$1kj@balu.ixpoint.de> In article <2q3d0r$1kj@balu.ixpoint.de> gguelden@ixpoint.de writes: > In article <2puftn$7ih@redstone.interpath.net> brady@mercury.interpath.net > (Donald C Brady - Comintel Inc) writes: > > Which of the 3COM Etherlink 3 Combo or the SMC Ultra Elite Combo > > would be the better choice with NextStep for Intel. > > > > Both companies are offering 2 for $100 evaluation kits. > > > > Thanks for any experience or opinion/advise. > > > > Don > > Please do not use 3 Com, they are the worst I have ever seen. Use SMC or > Intel Etherexpress. Attention: We have had trouble with the Elite Ultra > (not Elite). > Look at NeXTanswers 1492_NFS_Performance_Tuning.rtfd. and use the Intel Eterexpress! -- Thomas Traexler Email: TH-Darmstadt thomas@arnold.fkp.physik.th-darmstadt.de (NeXTmail) Institut fuer dd3i@hrzpub.th-darmstadt.de (non NeXTmail) Festkoerperphysik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: anderson (Ken Anderson) Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Message-ID: <1994May3.134231.20326@biztech.com> Sender: news@biztech.com Organization: Biztech, Inc. References: <2q3d0r$1kj@balu.ixpoint.de> Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 13:42:31 GMT > >Please do not use 3 Com, they are the worst I have ever seen. Use SMC or >Intel Etherexpress. Attention: We have had trouble with the Elite Ultra >(not Elite). > >Gerd >iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Walbronn, Germany I suggest the Intel, not the SMC. The SMC is SLLLOOOWWWWWW.... Ken Anderson anderson@biztech.com Stamford, CT
From: hh@dc5101.aalborges.dk (Hjerre F. Hviid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Setting screen resolution in Cirrus Logic Date: 4 May 1994 09:27:59 GMT Organization: News server at Danish Commerical Schools Message-ID: <2q7pqv$hob@esanews.denet.dk> If everyone will accept a beginners naive question without starting a flamewar :-) How do I configure my CirrusLogic 542X card to 800 x 600. If I install it directly, I end up with a rectangular 'window' with three desktops ?????? in, I assume, 1024 x 768 And it is, arrrgghhh, monochrome. Windows runs 1024x768 without coughing, since there is 1 Meg of video RAM. Any help appreciated, posting or EMail. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Hjerre F. Hviid | Aalborg Handelsskole | EDB-skolen | Sofiendalsvej 97 | 42 ! DK-9220 Aalborg SV | Denmark | hh@aalborg.es.dk | -------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Sunil Rao) Subject: Re: Possible to use HP Laserjet 4ML or Apple LaserWriter 320 ? Message-ID: <Cp9pxL.2EG@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2q63d5$bl@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 07:53:45 GMT In article <2q63d5$bl@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> robertg@bonham.sbc.co.uk (Guy Roberts) writes: >Could somebody direct me to a document that summarises what >needs to be done in order to get a PostScript Level 2 printer >to work with NS 3.2 ? The hardware guide just says "Standard >Adobe PostScript printers". The SysAdmin release notes mutter >for a while about PostScript Printer Description files. I >have checked the FAQs and NeXTAnswers. I use the 4ML with a NeXT PC. The ppd file comes with the Mac software. It works for me ( perhaps it was the Windows drivers, but I don't think so- both are included with the printer). [ ] -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] PCI and sound ? Date: 4 May 1994 17:09:06 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2q8kri$hjb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Hi, it seems as if sound was 'difficult' with ISA and ISA/VL-boards (at least with the PAS16 and the AHA1542), while it worked fine with EISA and EISA/VL boards. Has somebody made yet experiences if these problems continue with PCI boards ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu (David Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any problems with Number Nine Video on a PCI bus? Date: 4 May 1994 16:47:38 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Message-ID: <2q8jja$kri@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> I seem to remember hearing about problems with PCI-bus video card drivers in NeXTSTEP 3.2. Unfortunately, I can't find anything in NeXTANSWERS. Can anyone confirm or deny whether a Dell Pentium 60/XPS system with a Number Nine GXE video board (w/3MB) on a PCI bus will work? Thanks in advance. -- Dave Riley Computer Science Professor Acting Director of Academic Computing University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, WI 54601
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 256MB MO Drive Date: 4 May 1994 20:18:06 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2q8vtu$duh@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <2prijd$f6n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Are there any SCSI internal OD drives that could be placed inside a cube? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Assembling a PC for NeXTStep Date: 4 May 1994 08:07:39 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2q7hjr$273@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <HORNKVJM.94May2164242@merlin.whitman.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hornkvjm@merlin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) writes: >Would there be any problems with choice of motherboards? (I am mostly >thinking about a Pentium system.) Usually any board will do. >Does Pentium give any major performace premium over a DX2/66 in NS? Yes. Especially if you need floating point performance, the Pentium is far better off. >Which gfx cards work well in NS? (I'll want color. And it had better be >fast...:) ATI GUP, Viper, Miro, ... I assume you'll take PCI for the pentium. >How good is the IDE driver? How much would I win by getting a SCSI >harddrive? (I assume I need the interface for the installation CD, anyway.) >Is 5-6 hundred MB enough? (I plan to get the student version.) Compared to ordinary IDE, SCSI will give you a performance increase by factor 2 or 3. However, I've heard about Pentiums with new IDE (IDE-2 ?) interfaces and appropriate disks that achieved a performance absolutely screaming. 500 MB disk space is enough for the beginning, you may see later if you need more - depends on what you will do with the machine. >Do I need more than 16MB RAM? Yes, definetly. I would not start in color mode with less than 24. 32 MB are just fine. >Would there be any problems involved in installing NS and OS/2 at the >same time? No, this is possible. >And, finally, are there any good Neural Network simulators for NeXTStep? It is possible to compile the SNNS (Stuttgart Neural Network Simulator, developed at the University of Stuttgart) on NeXTSTEP if you buy a X11 package (e.g. co-Xist or CubXwindow). Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.uni-stuttgart.de /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) Subject: [intel] Which soundcard? Message-ID: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 00:22:08 GMT Hi folks, I just ordered a Zeos Pantera PCI/ISA system. Which soundcard would be best with this system? (I also have an Adaptec 1542CF card). I'm currently looking at the following cards: a) Pro Audio Spectrum - has an available NeXTstep driver. - causes panics when mixed with Adaptec 1542 ISA card b) SoundBlaster - has a PD driver for NeXTstep. - heard a rumor that the driver doesn't work with an ISA bus? c) Audiotrix Pro - supposedly comes with a working NeXTstep driver I'm currently leaning towards the Audiotrix, but I don't really know much about it besides the two posts made to this group. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Mike
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 5 May 1994 03:09:23 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> Michael S Amirault (ambi@world.std.com) wrote: : I just ordered a Zeos Pantera PCI/ISA system. Which soundcard would be : best with this system? (I also have an Adaptec 1542CF card). I'm currently : looking at the following cards: : a) Pro Audio Spectrum : - has an available NeXTstep driver. : - causes panics when mixed with Adaptec 1542 ISA card I had one, and it didn't cause panics with the adaptec 1542-CF, but it did make everything I tried to play sound like techno (I like techno, but it was rediculous... This is due to the adaptec wanting to 'hog the bus') : b) SoundBlaster : - has a PD driver for NeXTstep. : - heard a rumor that the driver doesn't work with an ISA bus? That is the same rumor I heard... : c) Audiotrix Pro : - supposedly comes with a working NeXTstep driver This is the card I use, and according to MediaTrix, I was the first person to get it running in NeXTSTEP/FIP since they hadn't received their copy of NS/FIP yet. I like it, you use the drivers for MS Sound SYstem that comes on the NeXTSTEP user CD. Also, it is a really nice card in DOS or Windows (but who uses those lame operating systems????? not us!!) STiMPY -- stimpy@mmg.im.med.umich.edu stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu stimpy@toadstool.ann-arbor.mi.us Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Message-ID: <1994May5.032120.1272@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University References: <2q3d0r$1kj@balu.ixpoint.de> <2q7evm$je8@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 03:21:20 GMT Thomas Traexler (thomas@arnold.fkp.physik.th-darmstadt.de) wrote: : > : Look at NeXTanswers 1492_NFS_Performance_Tuning.rtfd. and use the Intel : Eterexpress! Can anyone suggest a source from which one can purchase an Intel Etherexpress for close to the $49 price of the 3COM and SMC products? LT -- _____________________________________________________________________ /| | | | There are only two organizations that I know of that send armed | | | men in dark suits and sunglasses to take money they haven't earned: | | | the mafia and the government. -- Lenny Turetsky | | | | | | Lenny Turetsky (aka) lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu | | |_____________________________________________________________________| |/_____________________________________________________________________/
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] Re: Drive Speed Date: 5 May 1994 03:01:16 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9405050747.AA00210@hurka> Hi Michael, >Has anybody checked the difference in Drive Performance for >the BT445S compared to AHA1542C with the same harddisk. OK, here is my numbers: Basic system: 486DX2/66 & 32 MB RAM & 1.2 GB TOSHIBA MK538FB SCSI-2 Performance with Adaptec 1542C: write cca 900 kb/sec read cca 930 kb/sec overall index: cca. 1.05 Performance with BusLogic BT445S using NeXT's driver: write cca. 1130 kb/sec read cca. 1140 kb/sec overall index: 1.32 Performance with BusLogic BT445S using our BT445S driver with 32-bit addressing: write cca. 1260 kb/sec read: cca. 1240 kb/sec overall index: 1.45 Note: BT445S was set to synchronous data transfer mode with 10 MBytes/sec as maximum synchronous data rate. >I'd like to know, if the new Adaptec Driver from Next uses >the VLBus of the BT445S. Yes, it does. Hope it helps you. Bye, Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz
From: cgull@locktite.ftp.com (Systems Swampthing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Large Monochrome Monitor Recommendations Date: 4 May 1994 03:50:12 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <2q761k$a35@lard.ftp.com> References: <1994Apr25.032808.16671@princeton.edu> Summary: desert, wasteland, ugh In article <1994Apr25.032808.16671@princeton.edu>, John R. Penrod <jrpenrod@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> wrote: >I'd like to purchase a nice black and white or gray scale >full-page or dual-page monitor for my 486DX-33 machine. I am currently >running OS/2 and have considered adding NeXTSTEP. Does anyone have a >recommendation or know of a published product review? As >far as I know, PC Magazine hasn't reviewed large monochrome monitors >since 1990. There aren't many choices. There are several possibilities if you're willing to put up with proprietary video cards. Cornerstone and Sigma Designs pop to mind, but there are others. For large monochrome monitors similar in concept to multisync color monitors, I've only found one possibility. Nanao's 6500 is a 20 or 21" tube that accepts RGB input on BNC connectors; they've got a cable for use with VGA cards. It easily does 1280x1024 and maybe even 1600x1200 with a little push. It looks pretty good if you're willing to plunk down $1100. Me? I'm trying to hack up a couple of used $30 fixed-frequency monitors before I spend that kind of cash. --john hood
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Message-ID: <CpBxL4.Ex4@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <2q3d0r$1kj@balu.ixpoint.de> <2q7evm$je8@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <1994May5.032120.1272@news.yale.edu> Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 12:33:20 GMT Lenny Turetsky (lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu) wrote: : Thomas Traexler (thomas@arnold.fkp.physik.th-darmstadt.de) wrote: : : > : : Look at NeXTanswers 1492_NFS_Performance_Tuning.rtfd. and use the Intel : : Eterexpress! : Can anyone suggest a source from which one can purchase an Intel : Etherexpress for close to the $49 price of the 3COM and SMC products? aye, and you get what you pay for too! peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@snac.cfa.org
From: jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jeff Stephens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How well does NeXT Color Printer print Date: 5 May 1994 10:10:26 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2qb292$qnc@tamsun.tamu.edu> I was just wondering if anyone could describe the quality of output from the NeXT color printers. Jeff Stephens jhs3478@tamsun.tamu.edu
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seagate ST3600N and Black NeXTs Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 11:10:58 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MhmEm2L0Bww8ANuLwj@transarc.com> I'm preparing to install a new disk into my black NeXTstation. I'm expecting this to be a simple task, and that I can rely on the SCSI mode-sense to free me from having to build a disk table for this thing. If you've tried this combination and have any warnings or advice, I'll send good vibes back your way in thanks... -- Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Date: 5 May 1994 15:44:14 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Message-ID: <2qb48e$al5@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> References: <1994May5.032120.1272@news.yale.edu> In article <1994May5.032120.1272@news.yale.edu> lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) writes: > Can anyone suggest a source from which one can purchase an Intel > Etherexpress for close to the $49 price of the 3COM and SMC products? And how does the opportunity cost of daily kernal panics for the next year compare with the extra $50 for the Intel? Then again, my machine came with Dos 6.0 and Windows 3.1 for free... Richard Foote (rfoote@umich.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: NeXTStep on PPC? PReP Drivers Message-ID: <CpBpMM.F8@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Organization: Molecule Modelling Lab. References: <2q6599$6al@search01.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 09:42:21 GMT In article <2q6599$6al@search01.news.aol.com> wwtaylor@aol.com (Wwtaylor) writes: > In article <Apr.15.01.51.03.1994.25530@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, > kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes: > > .... > IBM's PReP systems will have the same problem as Intel systems: too many > peripheral choices and NO drivers for NS. > > NS could return from the dead with a PowerMac port, especially on the 1st > generation PowerMac's. After all, unix _is_ portable; NuBus should not be a > problem. Most new PowerMac users would jump at the chance to run NS. I bet > upwards of 50% would get it and more would get it just to try it out. NS for > P-Mac's would definitely outsell NS for Intel. > > William Taylor > (student at Rhodes College (rhodes.edu) via AOL) Hi! Well I'm not really sure if your PReP driver statement is fully true. The PReP design does include drivers to a certain level. As far as I understand what they wnat to do is that every piece of hardware has to come with a special kind of low-level-driver. So a PReP OS would not have to care about all the low level features a system offers (like bus system etc.) Porting to PReP and writing PReP hardware OS-level-drivers should be simpler to other hardware (at least to intel stuff). As written in BYte 4/94 PReP might use OpenFirmware for their dirvers and cards. This might really ease driver development at the low-level (somewhere far under the DriverKit level) I guess PReP is not really ready yet, and not porting to PowerMac might be a very political issue too. Looks like there is some kind of agreemend of not shipping any other RISC NS version then the HP until end of '94. If there is such a (stupid but political) agreement there is no hurry for NeXT to rush a PowerMac port. Looks like Canon/Powerhouse will build PReP systems too and maybe Steve's note that we should wait 4 month is somehow related to this fact. PReP will be ready, Canon will announce a PReP system, and NeXTSTEP will ship early '95 a version 3.3 with SPARC, PowerPC and ALPHA ( really just my privat guess!). It might make more sense this way. See...they said that they have a 5 people porting-team at NeXT. They want to get NSfHP out on time and in a solid fashion. They might include some changes to NS3.3 that might make porting even more easy. PowerMacs could be PReP systems in the new generation that should arrive late '94. And always keep in mind that they could have and agreement with HP of providing a 6 month lead in their HP-RISC port. My privat hope is that the people at NeXT are not stupid and blind. - PReP has no OS-god, like intel-PCs have. They could be a very good candidate. - DEC is in desperate need of a good OS. NS could be the one. But money rules the world. You can't change that one. Create your own rumors now, before its too late and they become reality. Aloha, Tomi -- ____________________________________________________ (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) Thomas Engel Neptunstr. 9 NeXTMail welcome 90522 Oberasbach
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS/intel/3.2 with ATT 2001 voice/fax modem ? Date: 5 May 94 10:37:09 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94May5103709@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Has anyone used the new ATT dataport 2001 voice/fax modem with your NextStep/intel 3.2 successfully ? If you have, is any special setup needed ? ZZ
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.syadmin Subject: Using swapdrives? Date: 05 May 1994 16:34:27 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May5173427@steffi.demon.co.uk> CC: next-admin@seer.demon.co.uk I want to get people's opinions on how using a dedicated swap drive can improve things.... Currently I've 400 MB drive in my slab and 16 MEG memory... I often (too often) have to reboot. I want to halt this right now. What are the advantages of using a dedicated swap drive... Is swap"file" shrinking (or lack of) a non-issue then? Any experiences welcome... How does one go about setting up a swap drive as opposed to the file under NeXTSTEP? Also what size drive is appropriate? I've been told 105 MEG is typical... Any specifics makes of 105 MEG drives in use for this would certainly be appreciated. -- I guess I could run du-daemon.pl then... -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Further to my earlier question (re: swapdrives) Date: 05 May 1994 18:22:30 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May5192230@steffi.demon.co.uk> CC: next-admin@seer.demon.co.uk Has anybody any experience with putting a second drive into a SLAB (NSC)? The existing drive is a SEAGATE ST1480 419MEG. Can another drive go in with this one? Power supply issues? (cooling/airflow?) I've heard that some folk used Toshiba's like this. I only need a small capacity (105MB) drive in there. How difficult is it to installed given that there's probably no bracket? -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Message-ID: <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 19:31:45 GMT In article <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: >Michael S Amirault (ambi@world.std.com) wrote: >: I just ordered a Zeos Pantera PCI/ISA system. Which soundcard would be >: best with this system? (I also have an Adaptec 1542CF card). I'm currently >: looking at the following cards: >: a) Pro Audio Spectrum >: - has an available NeXTstep driver. >: - causes panics when mixed with Adaptec 1542 ISA card > >I had one, and it didn't cause panics with the adaptec 1542-CF, but it did >make everything I tried to play sound like techno (I like techno, but it was >rediculous... This is due to the adaptec wanting to 'hog the bus') > > >: c) Audiotrix Pro >: - supposedly comes with a working NeXTstep driver > >This is the card I use, and according to MediaTrix, I was the first >person to get it running in NeXTSTEP/FIP since they hadn't received >their copy of NS/FIP yet. >I like it, you use the drivers for MS Sound SYstem that comes on the >NeXTSTEP user CD. > Okay, time to show my ignorance: Why *doesn't* the MediaTrix card have the same problem with the Adaptec card that the Pro Audio Spectrum does? My understanding of the MediaVision/Adaptec/ISA problem is that the Adaptec 'grabs' the bus and stuff can't get to the sound board (aren't I a techno- whiz? :-). If that's true, shouldn't this problem exist for *any* sound card on an ISA bus with an Adaptec? Someone want to straighten me out on this? Mike
From: rgc@twix.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Re: Drive Speed Date: 5 May 1994 21:22:44 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <2qbo34$44l@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <9405050747.AA00210@hurka> Tomas Hurka (tom@hukatronic.cz) wrote: : Hi Michael, : >Has anybody checked the difference in Drive Performance for : >the BT445S compared to AHA1542C with the same harddisk. : OK, here is my numbers: : Basic system: 486DX2/66 & 32 MB RAM & 1.2 GB TOSHIBA MK538FB SCSI-2 : Performance with Adaptec 1542C: : write cca 900 kb/sec : read cca 930 kb/sec : overall index: cca. 1.05 : Performance with BusLogic BT445S using NeXT's driver: : write cca. 1130 kb/sec : read cca. 1140 kb/sec : overall index: 1.32 : Performance with BusLogic BT445S using our BT445S driver with 32-bit : addressing: : write cca. 1260 kb/sec : read: cca. 1240 kb/sec : overall index: 1.45 : Note: BT445S was set to synchronous data transfer mode with 10 : MBytes/sec as maximum synchronous data rate. I thought NS doesn't support synchronous mode for SCSI drives. Has this changed? -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: jklinke@aeon.UCSD.EDU (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New system advice Date: 5 May 1994 16:35:25 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9405052133.AA00365@aeon.UCSD.EDU> I plan on buying a new system (Pentium 90 MHz) in the near future and have some questions: (1) The was some comment on c.s.n.h. about two months ago that that Viewsonic21 would not work with the Miro32S at 1408x1024x16bit at 74Hz NI refresh rate. Is this true? I called Miro and the assured me that the card would work with any monitor that had a horizontal sync frequency of 80kHz or higher. The Viewsonic21 has a horizontal sync frequency of 82kHz. That should work, right? (2) Also somebody suggested not to get a Seagate Barracuda for NS. I forgot why. Can somebody refresh my memory? Or which HD (>= 1 GB formatted) would be the best? (3) Is it possible to attach external SCSI devices to those motherboards with the onboard SCSI NCR PCI chip, or would an additional host adapter be required? Thanks so much, jk jklinke@ucsd.edu
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: formatting problem with a Seagate 2.1GB Date: 5 May 1994 09:36:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2qaso6$8lp@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2q72mg$ocg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <2q72mg$ocg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes: >OK, I bought a fine new Seagate Barracuda 12550/N from Pixelated recently, >nicely formatted and partitioned and all. We installed it in ariend's Cube >to check it out (my ND is an old '030 Cube that's been 'pamped ahp' and has >mountigs for just two internals) and tried to run BuildDisk on it. With >everything we tried we got the same error message: "boot block extends beyond >ront porch" and got nowhere. We can initialize it fine from Workspace and >use it as a BIG extra disk, but not a system disk. > >So, what gives? What are we overlooking? There's 2 partitions on the drive, >a 1.7GB and a 174MB; when we use BuildDisk it sees the whole drive and we >use >partition panel to choose a similar division. I'm flummoxed and in need of >space and speed. Soon. > Check out NeXTanswers # 1533 Initializing Large Disks. There is evidently a bug in BuildDisk when used with drives > 2 gig. Jeff Trestrail trestrail@aol.com
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Talus SCSI Driver Availability!! Message-ID: <1994May5.105852.18166@cc.usu.edu> Date: 5 May 94 10:58:52 MDT Organization: Utah State University ***************************************** Good News! Using the Beta version of the Talus SCSI driver for the NCR 53C810 Chipset, we have benched 4.5 MB/sec transfer rates. The Better News! Alpine will have distribution copies ready to ship Monday May 9. Contact Alpine Direct: 1-800-748-4558 Alpine@cc.usu.edu Mike, Steve, or A.J. *****************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: SCSI drivers Message-ID: <1994May2.182659.3542@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Keywords: SCSI drivers intel Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University Distribution: unlimited Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 18:26:59 GMT I'm trying to put together a price quote on a machine that has the NCR SCSI chip on it (a "saturn" motherboard from Intel). I can get the Talus driver from Alpine computing, but my question is, how do I install NextStep without at least borrowing an Adaptec or DPT SCSI driver for the install? I can't get the Talus driver onto the NeXT CD-ROM, and NextStep needs a functioning driver to install intself on the SCSI disk. Maybe I could copy the entire CD-ROM file system onto a disk, add the Talus driver (assuming NextStep will "probe" for any SCSI drivers in /usr/Devices), and install from that. Seems rather dubious. In general, how are people supposed to install non-NeXT-supplied SCSI drivers? Serge J. Goldstein
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Using swapdrives? Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 20:16:18 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <EhmMlGK00iV24=EE5J@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <ROBERT.94May5173427@steffi.demon.co.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-May-94 Using swapdrives? by Robert Nicholson@steffi. > I want to get people's opinions on how using a dedicated swap drive can > improve things.... > > Currently I've 400 MB drive in my slab and 16 MEG memory... I often (too > often) have to reboot. I want to halt this right now. > > What are the advantages of using a dedicated swap drive... Is > swap"file" shrinking (or lack of) a non-issue then? The system can perform simultaneous disk accesses to both drives, giving faster performance. Having a "swapdrive" simply means having a normally formatted drive with the special label "swapdisk". The startup scripts automatically create a swapping area (and /tmp) if such a drive is found when booting up. The swapfile on such a drive does not shrink any more than the one on your regular drive does. However, you will have the space to simply ignore the slow growth. > Any experiences welcome... > > How does one go about setting up a swap drive as opposed to the file > under NeXTSTEP? You can use BuildDisk.app or /usr/etc/disk to create a swapdrive. After that, simply reboot. > Also what size drive is appropriate? I've been told 105 MEG is > typical... I suspect that you are referring to my earlier comment on this subject. I have seen people have swapdrives anywhere from 40 MB to 250MB. I suggested a 105, simply because they tend to be cheap to get and they usually run much faster then 40MB drives. However, the 40MB drive that came with the original cubes makes quite a good swapdrive.... > Any specifics makes of 105 MEG drives in use for this would certainly > be appreciated. Quantum has been a name often associated with 105MB drives. Seagate might be a more reliable choice, however. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: wynn@next.duq.edu (Joseph Wynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: printing from PC to NeXT Laser? Date: 6 May 1994 01:12:43 GMT Organization: Duquesne University, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <2qc5ib$t2b@godot.cc.duq.edu> I was wondering if it is possible to connect the NeXT Laser Printer to a PC. Does anyone have any ideas about this? Thanks, Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: reeves@eugenia.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu (Terry W. Reeves) Subject: Yet another Quantum PD 1800S on black under 3.0 with problems Message-ID: <1994May6.021719.18008@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: Vanderbilt University Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 02:17:19 GMT We aquired a Quantum PD 1800S a couple of months ago, but just got it installed in a case today. As expected, it doesn't quite work. Anyway, I used /usr/etc/disk in interactive mode to poke around. I have included a part of the output below in the hopes that someone has an idea about what the problem might be or what to try next. I intend to try disabling the parity checking tomorrow to see if that will work. In any case, if you have a clue, please let me know. I have also discovered with disk that I can write to and read from anywhere on the disk. Thanks for any help. Terry Reeves disk> init DESTROYS ALL EXISTING DISK DATA -- really initialize? y enter host name: eugenia enter disk label: General writing disk label Block 0 boot is "/usr/standalone/boot", ok? y creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1758768 50 14 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t write error: 1758767 wtfs: I/O error /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) disk> re starting block? 0 # sectors per transfer? 1 number of transfers? 1 sector increment? 1 1024 bytes in 40 ms = 25600 bytes/s disk> lo read or write buffer? re offset? 0 length? 1024 0 64 6c 56 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 65 6e 65 72 61 6c 00 00 00 00 00 dlV3........General..... 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 d9 cc 9c a3 51 55 41 4e ....................QUAN 48 54 55 4d 20 50 44 31 38 30 30 53 2d 35 31 32 00 00 00 00 00 66 69 78 65 TUM PD1800S-512.....fixe 72 64 5f 72 77 5f 73 63 73 69 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 d_rw_scsi............... 96 00 00 00 0e 00 00 00 32 00 00 0b c0 00 00 0e 10 00 a0 00 00 00 00 00 00 .......2................ 120 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 60 73 64 6d 61 63 68 00 00 00 00 00 00 ....... ...`sdmach...... 144 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 65 75 67 65 6e 69 61 00 00 00 00 00 ............eugenia..... 168 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 61 62 00 00 ....................ab.. 192 00 00 00 1a d6 30 20 00 04 00 74 00 00 10 10 00 0a 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 .....0 ...t............. 216 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 34 2e 33 42 53 44 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ...........4.3BSD....... 240 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 264 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ........................ 288 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 312 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ........................ 336 ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 360 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ........................ 384 ff ff 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 408 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ........................ 432 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 456 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 ........................ 480 ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 504 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 ff ff ........................ 528 ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 552 00 00 00 00 00 00 df 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 576 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 600 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 624 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 648 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 672 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 696 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 720 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 744 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 768 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 792 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 816 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 840 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 864 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 888 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 912 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 936 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 960 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 984 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................ 1008 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: reeves@eugenia.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu (Terry W. Reeves) Subject: Re: Yet another Quantum PD 1800S on black under 3.0 with problems Message-ID: <1994May6.022439.18144@news.vanderbilt.edu> Sender: news@news.vanderbilt.edu Organization: Vanderbilt University References: <1994May6.021719.18008@news.vanderbilt.edu> Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 02:24:39 GMT In article <1994May6.021719.18008@news.vanderbilt.edu> reeves@eugenia.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu (Terry W. Reeves) writes: > We aquired a Quantum PD 1800S a couple of months ago, but just got it > installed in a case today. As expected, it doesn't quite work. Anyway, I > used /usr/etc/disk in interactive mode to poke around. I have included a > part of the output below in the hopes that someone has an idea about what > the problem might be or what to try next. I intend to try disabling the > parity checking tomorrow to see if that will work. In any case, if you > have a clue, please let me know. I have also discovered with disk that I > can write to and read from anywhere on the disk. Thanks for any help. > > Terry Reeves Just thought I would include some more information. This is the /tmp/console.log file from when I log on and the OS tries to initialize the disk automatically. Once again, thanks for any help. Terry Reeves eugenia> more /tmp/console.log Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B) /usr/etc/disk -i -h eugenia -l "General" /dev/rsd1a disk name: QUANTUM PD1800S disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 2 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 3 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 4 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 5 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 6 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 7 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 8 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 9 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 2 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 3 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 4 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 5 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 6 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 7 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 8 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 9 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 2 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 3 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 4 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 5 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 6 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 7 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 8 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 9 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 2 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 3 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 4 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 5 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 6 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 7 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 8 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 9 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1758768 50 14 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 1 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 2 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 3 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 4 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 5 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 6 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 7 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 8 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 9 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL write error: 1758767 wtfs: I/O error /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) eugenia>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <ebaenen@afit.af.mil> Date: Thu, 5 May 94 17:08:17 -0400 From: Eric Baenen <ebaenen@afit.af.mil> Message-ID: <9405052108.AA06826@tolkien.afit.af.mil> Subject: cube simms vs ND simms? Does anyone know if the simms used on the cube cpu boards are compatible with the NeXTDimension boards? We have an ND cube system on our NeXT network with 52 MB main memory but only 8 MB of memory on the ND board. The performance as you can imagine is very slow. What I would like to find out is if we can swap some of main memory to the ND board? Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you, Eric -- ************************************************************ * ERIC P. BAENEN, Capt, USAF * Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) * Dept. of Computer Engineering * Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433 * email: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (NeXTMail preferred) ************************************************************
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: cube simms vs ND simms? Date: 6 May 1994 03:09:21 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qccd1$gcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <9405052108.AA06826@tolkien.afit.af.mil> Keywords: NeXTdimension, NeXT, memory In article <9405052108.AA06826@tolkien.afit.af.mil> Eric Baenen <ebaenen@afit.af.mil> writes: > > Does anyone know if the simms used on the cube cpu boards are > compatible with the NeXTDimension boards? > > We have an ND cube system on our NeXT network with 52 MB main > memory but only 8 MB of memory on the ND board. The > performance as you can imagine is very slow. What I would > like to find out is if we can swap some of main memory to the > ND board? > > Any help or advice would be appreciated. > From the FAQ, by way of the "NeXTdimension Compendium": *** Subject: R1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT? [...] NeXTdimension boards (i860): These boards have 8 SIMM slots. SIMMs must be installed in groups of four on the NeXTdimension board. Use 72-pin 1, 4, or 8 MB SIMMs with 80 ns or faster access time. The SIMMs are organized 256Kx32 or 1Mx32 for non-parity systems, and 256Kx36 and 1Mx36 for parity. [If 8 MB SIMMs are used in all 8 slots, then you can install 64 MB on the NeXTdimension board. This was never made public by the Marketing Dept., but the engineers got it to work fine. I personally have noticed smoother, quicker real-time performance using apps like intuitiv'3d on systems with more ND RAM. With the ND, More = Better.] See what kind of RAM you've got on your motherboard. the ND doesn't use parity. Cheers, Steve Weintz EthnoGraphics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu Subject: Quad Speed CDROM??? Message-ID: <CpD23z.LAK@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 03:08:39 GMT Can any body tell me if the quad speed CDROM drives with the 6 Disk changers will work on NeXTStep??? replies >> comp.sys.next.hardware thanks, JIM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Archive Python DAT (gnutar) causing panic?! Message-ID: <CpD2px.HG@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 03:22:45 GMT Here's a neat one... I just got a (used) Archive Python DAT (says 27216-XXX at bootup when all the SCSI devices identify themselves...) I'm using this command line to do a full system backup to it: gnutar -cvPM -b 128 -X /.nobackup --totals -f /dev/rst0 / (./nobackup basically contains /private/vm; it's intended to keep from dumping the swapfile to tape) This worked fine with the old Archive Viper 2150 (QIC-02) drive that the Python replaced -- if I used the program that set the drive to fixed block size. The block size program dosen't seem to affect the DAT either way, so I haven't been using it. Anyway, last night I backed up just fine with that command line. Tonight, it's paniced the system twice, and naturally, it's done it about 95% through the backup. :) The error is: May 5 20:20:08 fragile mach: panic: (Cpu 0) dma_list: zero pfnum The first two times I got this, I was in single-user mode. I did it a third time multi-user, but it still did it. Last night's successful backup was done in multi-user mode. Anyone got a clue as to what in the world's happening? (Anyone have a better command line to suggest, or a better way of backing up in general? If I understand the man pages, 'dump' can just do one whole disk at a time? How's it handle multiple disks on a single tape, then? I have 3 disks; 400+660+580 meg.) -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@vax.wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
From: rgc@twix.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus SCSI Driver Availability!! Date: 6 May 1994 05:17:41 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <2qcjtl$f74@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <1994May5.105852.18166@cc.usu.edu> alpine@cc.usu.edu wrote: : ***************************************** : Good News! : Using the Beta version of the Talus SCSI driver for the NCR 53C810 Chipset, we : have benched 4.5 MB/sec transfer rates. : The Better News! : Alpine will have distribution copies ready to ship Monday May 9. : Contact Alpine Direct: : 1-800-748-4558 : Alpine@cc.usu.edu : Mike, Steve, or A.J. : ***************************************** What SCSI cards will this driver work for (or is it only good for systems that have the NCR chipset on the system board)? -- Ross Cutler University of Maryland, College Park Internet: rgc@cs.umd.edu
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell XPS P60 warning Date: 6 May 1994 05:25:05 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <2qckbh$54@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Well, I've confirmed that the Dell Dimension XPS P60 (that's the one with the Pentium) is not Nextstep compatible. In particular, neither the serial nor the parallel ports work. Dell suggested disabling onboard ports and using an add-on I/O card. I was able to get the parallel port to work (ah, the printer) but not the serial ports with this card. Oh, I also tested this card on a Compaq 486 and both serial and parallel ports worked fine. For further aggravation, one out of four boot-ups would result in a kernel panic when attempting to mount root. Sheezz.. Next service (remember you get what you pay for) mumbled something about the Pentium emulating a 486 to run Nextstep .. uH?
From: lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie Connally) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT printer on a Mac? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 6 May 1994 06:04:29 GMT Organization: On-Ramp Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <lwallyci-060594010846@ramp02.onramp.net> I'm a Mac person, and really don't know NeXT, but want to ask if it is possible to make a NeXT/canon 11x17 color printer work on a Mac 030 or 040. I think it is a question of system-extension-printer driver availability and serial or parallel connection ("Power Print" is a serial to parallel converter with drivers) I'm calling them tomorrow. Please help if you can. Sorry if i'm bothering yall here (there is one available here low $ auction item (new)) Leslie Connally lwallyci@onramp.net 6 may 94
From: daniel@cassidy.EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Ian Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT (Black Hardware) Colour Monitor compatibility Date: 6 May 1994 09:01:34 GMT Organization: Xerox Palo Alto Research Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qd11e$jg9@news.parc.xerox.com> Hi, Does anyone know whether or not the MegaPixel display can be used on any other hardware other than a NeXT cube? I'd like to hook it up to a PC or a Mac... Thanks, --Ian P.S> Please reply to me via E-Mail as I'll not be reading News much. (daniel@europarc.xerox.com)
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Yet another Quantum PD 1800S on black under 3.0 with problems Date: 6 May 1994 10:33:34 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qd6du$q3a@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994May6.021719.18008@news.vanderbilt.edu> In article <1994May6.021719.18008@news.vanderbilt.edu> reeves@eugenia.phy.Vanderbilt.Edu (Terry W. Reeves) writes: > We aquired a Quantum PD 1800S a couple of months ago, but just got it > installed in a case today. As expected, it doesn't quite work. I and two other NextStep Motorolla users had this problem several weeks ago, and I posted the results. The bottom line is that the Quantum PD1800s cannot be used with NextStep Motorolla. There is some sort of basic firmware (PROM) incompatibility. The tech support people at Quantum were wholly ignorant, and the folks at NeXT tried but were unable to help us manually format the drive. Go buy a Micropolis 1.65 GB drive. It formats correctly, right out of the box. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: kransst@ac.com (Steve Krans - CTG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS on a i486/100Mhz? Date: 5 May 1994 22:08:52 GMT Organization: Andersen Consulting - Minneapolis Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qbqpk$r5v@nsmmfs07.ac.com> I have a friend who's buying some new hardware for running NS486, and was look at the new 100Mhz i486. Does anyone have experience running NS on this chip and where there any problems? What brand of hardware/motherboard? Thanks! Steve Krans Steve.Krans@ac.com
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Using swapdrives? Date: 6 May 1994 03:31:52 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qcdn8$pss@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <EhmMlGK00iV24=EE5J@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Robert Nicholson@steffi writes: > > I want to get people's opinions on how using a dedicated swap drive > > can improve things.... > > > > Currently I've 400 MB drive in my slab and 16 MEG memory... I often > > (too often) have to reboot. I want to halt this right now. > > > > What are the advantages of using a dedicated swap drive... Is > > swap"file" shrinking (or lack of) a non-issue then? > > The system can perform simultaneous disk accesses to both drives, giving > faster performance. Having a "swapdrive" simply means having a normally > formatted drive with the special label "swapdisk". The startup scripts > automatically create a swapping area (and /tmp) if such a drive is found > when booting up. That "swapdrive" was designed particularly for the days when NeXTSTEP was running off the original MO drive (and was thus "a bit slow"). In that situation, having *both* swap and temp space on the swapdisk was a big performance boost. That swapdisk concept still works, of course, but on my NeXT's I didn't go with that auto-magic method. I wanted the swap file on a separate disk, but not the /tmp space. Given a perfectly good hard disk with plenty of free space, I didn't see any reason to toss my temp files over on the hard disk I wanted to use for swap space. So, if you want to move *just* the swapfile to a separate hard disk, then what you have to do is add a line in fstab for the new disk. Do not call it "swapdisk", of course. Just format the disk as a regular unix disk with a regular unix file system on it. I have a 170meg drive I use for this, and my /etc/fstab file has the two lines: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /ZSwapdisk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Next you have to change your /etc/swaptab file, which defines the swapping areas. Mine looks like: # /etc/swaptab for black-ice # # 32meg = X'20' * X'100000' = 33554432 (decimal) # 64meg = X'40' * X'100000' = 67108864 (decimal) # 80meg = X'50' * X'100000' = 83886080 (decimal) # 96meg = X'60' * X'100000' = 100663296 (decimal) /ZSwapdisk/private/vm/swapfile lowat=67108864 # 64 Meg low water mark You might want to include a high-water mark on that definition. I do on my other NeXT's, but I guess I don't on this one... The drawback of this method over the other one? With this method you *have* to have the hard drive attached to boot up your NeXT (unless you want to muck about booting in single user mode and undoing some of these changes). > > Also what size drive is appropriate? I've been told 105 MEG is > > typical... 105meg is pretty reasonable. I have a 170meg Fujitsu drive, but I also have some other files on the drive (files that are static, which is to say "files that nothing ever writes to", so I *know* they will always take up a fixed amount of space). There was a definite boost in performance when I did this, as well as the nice feeling that the expanding swapfile was on a separate disk from /tmp space & all my home directories. So, if the swap file goes crazy, I can still save away all my work without worrying that the file system is full. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Message-ID: <CpDBEp.BL5@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 06:30:24 GMT In article <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) writes: [ ] >>: c) Audiotrix Pro >>: - supposedly comes with a working NeXTstep driver >> >>This is the card I use, and according to MediaTrix, I was the first >>person to get it running in NeXTSTEP/FIP since they hadn't received >>their copy of NS/FIP yet. >>I like it, you use the drivers for MS Sound SYstem that comes on the >>NeXTSTEP user CD. >> > > Okay, time to show my ignorance: Why *doesn't* the MediaTrix card have > the same problem with the Adaptec card that the Pro Audio Spectrum does? > > My understanding of the MediaVision/Adaptec/ISA problem is that the Adaptec > 'grabs' the bus and stuff can't get to the sound board (aren't I a techno- > whiz? :-). If that's true, shouldn't this problem exist for *any* sound > card on an ISA bus with an Adaptec? > > Someone want to straighten me out on this? Well I can confirm the lockups on an ISA system with the PAS16 and the Afaptec card. I don't know why, but the AudioTrix Pro does not suffer from this problem. However while Gary L. may very well have been the first in the universe to have it working on NS/Intel, his definition of working is a bit odd. (1) The AudioTrix Pro will not record in NS as the input levels of the card are not saved and the card reverts to 10 ( the highest level for recording). Also the volume input and hence the output acts in a similar way. (2) Mediatrix who make the card are very helpful and a fix to the problem (1) should be on their BBS within a day, if not now. (3) The card is extremely nice, and asssuming the fix works it makes for a very good NS/Intel+PC card. It would be nice before people claim things work for them to say what exactly does and doesn't work. I would say that not having recording is not minor. Fortunately we are dealing with a company that is interested in NS/Intel. I would advise in favour of getting this card, but make sure you verify the recording capability. I don't know very much about WSS, but is it common for it to not have a mixer? The NS driver is pretty minimal. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: farul@news.cs.columbia.edu (Farul Ghazali) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cheapest NeXTStep setup? Date: 6 May 1994 03:51:35 -0400 Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science Message-ID: <2qcsu7$gec@tune.cs.columbia.edu> I'm wondering what the cheapest setup for a NeXTstep system would cost. Color is not important, so an 8 or 12 meg system with mono graphics would be fine. Would I be better off going for a cheap 486DX/33 + SCSI HD or would a used NeXTstation be a better choice? Thanks. -- Farul Ghazali School of Engineering and Applied Science, Columbia University in the City of New York.
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI drivers Date: 6 May 1994 12:57:00 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: unlimited Message-ID: <2qdeqs$4b8@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <1994May2.182659.3542@Princeton.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: SCSI drivers intel serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes: >chip on it (a "saturn" motherboard from Intel). I can get the Talus driver >from Alpine computing, but my question is, how do I install NextStep without at >least borrowing an Adaptec or DPT SCSI driver for the install? I can't get the If you have access to a working NeXT (black or white), it's easy : 1. Copy the driver "NewDriver.config" into /usr/Devices on a NeXT-formatted floppy disk. 2. Start CDROM installation as usual. After loading IDE, Adaptec and DPT drivers the installation program will ask you, wether you want to load additional SCSI drivers. Answer with "yes" and insert the disk you created in step 1. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Good ISA Video card ?? Date: 6 May 1994 12:52:34 GMT Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qdeii$pcs@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Keywords: Tseng, S3, isa Does anybody out there know what would be a good ISA video card that would do 1024x768 in 2 bit color with the lowest amount of hassle? I looked through the Hardware guide but they don't mention any venders in particular. Thanks jds -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Otto "Apes don't read philoshpy" disclaimer Wanda "Sure they do, they just don't understand it" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI drivers Date: 6 May 1994 08:41:05 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2qddt1$pq5@search01.news.aol.com> References: <CpAz9B.BFJ@world.std.com> In article <CpAz9B.BFJ@world.std.com>, ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) writes: >In article <1994May2.182659.3542@Princeton.EDU> >serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes: >> >> >>I'm trying to put together a price quote on a machine that has the NCR SCSI >>chip on it (a "saturn" motherboard from Intel). I can get the Talus driver >>from Alpine computing, but my question is, how do I install NextStep >>without at least borrowing an Adaptec or DPT SCSI driver for the install? > > I was wondering the same thing. I'm going to have a similar situation in >2 weeks: I just ordered a Zeos Pantera system with a Diamond Viper video > card. Is it going to be a problem install the Viper driver 'cause it ain't > on the CD-ROM? Does anyone know if this will be a problem? Or how to get > around it if it is? > You can use the procedure outlined in NeXTAnswers # 1541 to load only the drivers you want when installing; I used it to install with an Adaptec 1541CF, but don't see why the procedure wouldn't work in your cases. Regards, Jeff Trestrail trestrail@aol.com
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cheapest NeXTStep setup? Date: 06 May 1994 15:58:10 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May6165810@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2qcsu7$gec@tune.cs.columbia.edu> To: farul@news.cs.columbia.edu (Farul Ghazali) In-reply-to: farul@news.cs.columbia.edu's message of 6 May 1994 03:51:35 -0400 The cheapest setup is an old 030 cube. but if you want a usable machine the best thing to do is purchase an old NeXTStation.... -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Watcom tablets advice sought Date: 6 May 1994 09:15 MST Organization: University of Arizona Distribution: world Message-ID: <6MAY199409155157@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Hi. I have a 25Mhz, 040 NeXTcube running NS3.2. I'm thinking of getting a Watcom tablet for drawing. If you have experiece with these, please e-mail advice. What do they cost? Where? What software do they work/not work with? How long a cord? Is it extendable? Etc. Etc. Etc. Thanks! Don McCollam mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Gateway P5-90 Date: 6 May 1994 16:28:08 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qdr6o$pj1@crcnis1.unl.edu> Keywords: NS,Pentium,performance I just successfully loaded a Gateway P5-90 with NS3.2 and here are some performance numbers from NXBench, along with some comparison numbers from a GX/Pro: Gateway P5-90 32MB RAM; Diamond Viper PCI 1152 x 900 x 16; Adaptec 1540 SCSI 121457 dhrystones/sec 77.1 VAX MIPS NXFactor 1.27 line 0.96 arc/bezier 0.94 fill 0.79 transform 2.73 composite 0.77 userpath 2.66 text 0.84 window 0.44 GX/Pro 24MB RAM ATI video 1024 x 768 x 16 ; IDE drive 57692 dhrystones/sec 36.6 VAX MIPS NXfactor 0.84 line 0.70 arc/bezier 0.67 fill 0.55 trans 1.70 composite 0.60 userpath 1.70 text 0.52 window 0.32 Has anyone gotten a Gateway P5-60,66, or 90 to work with the PCI IDE interface? I haven't had any success with that. I keep getting "IDE stray interrupt" messages. Overall impression : Very faaast machine. When I can pop out the Adaptec card and pop in a PCI SCSI card, it will be a very very faast machine. The Diamond Viper video is wonderful - I don't have a monitor that can handle 1600 x 1200, but it will do 1600 x 1200 in 8 bit grayscale. 1152 x 900 is fine on a 17" NEC 5FGp. Thanks, Hubert Hickman hhickman@andi.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: vermeer@imag.imag.fr (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) Subject: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Message-ID: <1994May6.145018.549@imag.fr> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 14:50:18 GMT Hi, What are the best graphic cards suited for 16bit color in 1024x768 with NextStep??? Does anybody has tried 2Mb cheap VLB cards, like Cirrus or ET4000 w32 ? Are there any drivers for 8-bits color modes ?? Thanks, Alex.
From: bm10009@a6-hct.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!!! Keyboard Problems installing NS/I Date: 6 May 1994 17:47:11 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <2qdvqv$9dr@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Keywords: Keyboard Install NeXT HELP! I am currently trying to install NS 3.2 FIP onto my DX2/66 Clone The problem seems to be that the keyboard locks as soon as it runs the NeXT Mach. I have tried one fix namely: "Boot Drivers" = "PS2 Keyboard Adaptec 1542B DPT2012 IDE Floppy" But this has failed to rectify the problem
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Watcom tablets advice sought Message-ID: <1994May6.181709.15837@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <6MAY199409155157@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 18:17:09 GMT In article <6MAY199409155157@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes: >>Hi. I have a 25Mhz, 040 NeXTcube running NS3.2. I'm thinking of getting a >>Watcom tablet for drawing. If you have experiece with these, please e-mail >>advice. What do they cost? Where? What software do they work/not work >>with? How long a cord? Is it extendable? Etc. Etc. Etc. >>Thanks! >>Don McCollam >>mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu I assume you mean Wacom, the pressure sensitive stylus/tablet maker, and not Watcom, the PC compiler vendor... I have a 12"x12" electrostatic Wacom tablet that I use on my NeXTStation Color a lot. To my knowledge, Virtuoso is the only commercial app that directly supports pressure, but I use the stylus in doing icon work using my crufty old copy of Appsoft Image instead of a mouse. What's really neat is since I'm left-handed but (for historical reasons) use my right hand for mouse control, I can use both devices in overlap and it works great. I also have various bits and pieces of software I written to take advantage of the pressure; just look at Peter Graffagnino's fine UnderPressure example. If you want to buy one, call any Mac vendor. You're probably better off getting one of the smaller ArtZ tablets (also made by Wacom) as they are significantly cheaper than my large electrostatic one. You need the Mac cable to work on a NeXTStation anyway. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Message-ID: <1994May6.183124.10856@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University References: <1994May5.032120.1272@news.yale.edu> <2qb48e$al5@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 18:31:24 GMT Richard J. Foote (rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu) wrote: : In article <1994May5.032120.1272@news.yale.edu> : lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky) writes: : > Can anyone suggest a source from which one can purchase an Intel : > Etherexpress for close to the $49 price of the 3COM and SMC products? : And how does the opportunity cost of daily kernal panics for the next year : compare with the extra $50 for the Intel? Then again, my machine came with : Dos 6.0 and Windows 3.1 for free... Why is everyone's response to my question a statement about the value of going with the Intel card? I'm not asking for opinions on that (nor am I arguing with you folks ;-), I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a way to get the Intel card w/o spending any extra money (for obvious reasons ;-). LT
From: ptuomola@xs4all.hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing IBM 0662 S12 into a NeXTstation Date: 6 May 1994 21:39:55 +0200 Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses Message-ID: <2qe6ebINN6ko@xs4all.hacktic.nl> I'm trying to replace the original 105MB Quantum drive that came with my NeXTstation by a 1GB IBM disk. However, I'm running into problems and I have no idea what to do. I set the SCSI ID of the drive to #1. I also set the following options: AutoStart, Terminator, Drive supplies termination power. The machine starts to boot just fine, going through checks and everything, but after self-check it starts to repeat the following message over and over again: SCSI: unexpected msg = 1 sc: SCSI unexpected msg sd: target 1 lun 0 opcode 18 sd: addr 0x43bbf50 bcount 66 rdflag 1 sd: sdstatus 0 sdstate 0 resid 66 sc: s5c state 7 status 0x87 sc: intrstatus 0x8 seqstep 0x4 sc: fifo level = 0 transfer count 43690 sc: command 0x10 config 0x57 After repeating this maybe 20 times, it reaches a conclusion: No SCSI disk present and returns to the monitor. Any ideas what to do? Anybody using this disk in a NeXTstation. Please help. Thanks a million. Petri -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Petri Tuomola (root@echelon.hacktic.nl) (ptuomola@hacktic.nl) Get stoned - drink wet concrete
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: Data Acquisition and Control for NSFIP Message-ID: <CpEC9C.1H3@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Keywords: Data, acquisition, Analog to Digital, Digital to analog, conversions Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 19:46:23 GMT Does anybody know of any hardware with appropriate drivers to do ADC and DAC on Intel hardware running NextStep? I'd appreciate any responses --john m. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Using swapdrives? Date: 6 May 1994 16:17:57 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qdqjl$l06@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2qcdn8$pss@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > ... disk with a regular unix file system on it. I have a 170meg drive > I use for this, and my /etc/fstab file has the two lines: > > /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 > /dev/sd1a /ZSwapdisk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 > > Next you have to change your /etc/swaptab file, which defines the > swapping areas. Mine looks like: > > # /etc/swaptab for black-ice > # > # 32meg = X'20' * X'100000' = 33554432 (decimal) > # 64meg = X'40' * X'100000' = 67108864 (decimal) > # 80meg = X'50' * X'100000' = 83886080 (decimal) > # 96meg = X'60' * X'100000' = 100663296 (decimal) > /ZSwapdisk/private/vm/swapfile lowat=67108864 # 64 Meg low water mark one other minor change that I do for prettiness sake is that I add the line ZSwapdisk to my /.hidden file, so this swapdisk isn't showing up in the workspace browsers. If I have anything on that disk which I do want to get to from the File viewer's, I have links to them from other directories. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bassuk@u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel EtherExpress Configuration Nightmare Date: 6 May 1994 20:34:46 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2qe9l6$moc@news.u.washington.edu> Summary: can't configure card Keywords: etherexpress, softset This *technically* isn't a NS/FIP problem. Although, once I get my DOS/WINDOWS environment tweaked, I'll install NSi 3.2. So, I guess it kinda applies. I have purchased an Intel EtherExpress 16/16TP Network Adapter for use in a Gateway P5-66 machine. The only way that this card can be configured is from a program "softset.exe"..... The problem is that my machine now fails to recognize the card and hence "softset.exe" now functions to freeze the machine. I have tried to boot from a A: drive DOS setup disc, then switch to the Intel floppy and run softset from there, but no luck. I have bypassed the config.sys and autoexec.bat during boot up, and once I found that if I removed the reference to the SCSI driver, then I was able to configure the board. Now, I am completely unable to configure this board from softset. It has no recognizable interrupt address, and is lost from detection. I have even removed the SCSI adapter and booted from the A: drive, and tried softset from A: with no luck. Any help is much appreciated. Jim Bassuk, Ph.D. Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington NetworkAddress: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu 'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?'
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good ISA Video card ?? Date: 6 May 1994 23:53:16 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <2qel9c$8ef@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2qdeii$pcs@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> <2qeh2l$hot@news.delphi.com> Keywords: Tseng, S3, isa The Genoa Multimedia card using the ET-4000 works great. And its still available.
From: trestrai@news.delphi.com (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good ISA Video card ?? Date: 6 May 1994 22:41:25 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <2qeh2l$hot@news.delphi.com> References: <2qdeii$pcs@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Keywords: Tseng, S3, isa jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes: >Does anybody out there know what would be a good ISA video card that would >do 1024x768 in 2 bit color with the lowest amount of hassle? I looked through >the Hardware guide but they don't mention any venders in particular. I think you'll be limited by the ISA bus to 2 bit greyscale no matter what video card you choose. Jeff trestrail@delphi.com
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 7 May 1994 03:45:21 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2qf2sh$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> <CpDBEp.BL5@utstat.toronto.edu> Philip McDunnough (phillip@utstat.toronto.edu) wrote: : Well I can confirm the lockups on an ISA system with the PAS16 and the : Afaptec card. I don't know why, but the AudioTrix Pro does not suffer : from this problem. However while Gary L. may very well have been the : first in the universe to have it working on NS/Intel, his definition of : working is a bit odd. sorry dude... but I do not, nor do I have the need to record, nor do I know how...... maybe someday I will learn when I need to dot it. : (1) The AudioTrix Pro will not record in NS as the input levels of the : card are not saved and the card reverts to 10 ( the highest level for : recording). Also the volume input and hence the output acts in a : similar way. : : (2) Mediatrix who make the card are very helpful and a fix to the problem : (1) should be on their BBS within a day, if not now. cool.... maybe I should try it. : (3) The card is extremely nice, and asssuming the fix works it makes for : a very good NS/Intel+PC card. : : It would be nice before people claim things work for them to say what : exactly does and doesn't work. I would say that not having recording is : not minor. like I said, I probably will never need to record... it sounds ok to me and that is what I was looking for in a sound card. Please, subscribe to the NS/FIP HomeBrew mailing list and we would love to hear how to record with this card, etc. I'm not a music person, but someday I may need that function. If you want to post the driver that would be awesome. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cheapest NeXTStep setup? Date: 7 May 1994 03:55:35 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2qf3fn$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2qcsu7$gec@tune.cs.columbia.edu> Farul Ghazali (farul@news.cs.columbia.edu) wrote: : I'm wondering what the cheapest setup for a NeXTstep system would : cost. Color is not important, so an 8 or 12 meg system with mono : graphics would be fine. Would I be better off going for a cheap : 486DX/33 + SCSI HD or would a used NeXTstation be a better choice? Us homebrewers could get you running for well under $2k without software. STiMPY ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Date: 7 May 1994 03:59:38 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2qf3na$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994May6.145018.549@imag.fr> Alexandre.Vermeerbergen (vermeer@imag.imag.fr) wrote: : What are the best graphic cards suited for 16bit color : in 1024x768 with NextStep??? Does anybody has tried 2Mb : cheap VLB cards, like Cirrus or ET4000 w32 ? : Are there any drivers for 8-bits color modes ?? I had a Tseng ET-4000 w32i 2meg DRAM card and I was running at 800x600x16bit color at 65hrz and 1024x768x16bit color at 45hrz. I just bought a new ATI GUP 2meg VRAM VLB card for $284 (ATI just dropped their prices, I got mine from CDW..) Although the w32i does work, and it's cheap ($179 or less), the ATI is somewhat the standard for NS/FIP. I haven't tried it yet, but most people use the AYI. Gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <jklinke@aeon.UCSD.EDU> Date: Fri, 6 May 94 10:04:19 -0700 From: jklinke@aeon.UCSD.EDU (Jochen Klinke) Message-ID: <9405061704.AA01217@aeon.UCSD.EDU> Subject: [intel] hardware questions I plan on buying a new system (Pentium 90 MHz) in the near future and have some questions: (1) The was some comment on c.s.n.h. about two months ago that that Viewsonic21 would not work with the Miro32S at 1408x1024x16bit at 74Hz NI refresh rate. Is this true? I called Miro and the assured me that the card would work with any monitor that had a horizontal sync frequency of 80kHz or higher. The Viewsonic21 has a horizontal sync frequency of 82kHz. That should work, right? (2) Also somebody suggested not to get a Seagate Barracuda for NS. I forgot why. Can somebody refresh my memory? Or which HD (>= 1 GB formatted) would be the best? (3) Is it possible to attach external SCSI devices to those motherboards with the onboard SCSI NCR PCI chip, or would an additional host adapter be required? Thanks so much, jk jklinke@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: [intel]DSP sound boards Message-ID: <CpD01J.MF@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Keywords: DSP, sound TurtleBeach, Tahiti Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 02:24:54 GMT Does anyone out there have a working NeXTSTEP driver for the Turtle Beach Tahiti sound board (basic board). I shall be writing one in the next little while, but it would be nice if someone's already done it :-) david ------------ -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) Subject: Re: SCSI drivers Message-ID: <CpAz9B.BFJ@world.std.com> Keywords: SCSI drivers intel Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <1994May2.182659.3542@Princeton.EDU> Distribution: unlimited Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 00:12:47 GMT In article <1994May2.182659.3542@Princeton.EDU> serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes: > > >I'm trying to put together a price quote on a machine that has the NCR SCSI >chip on it (a "saturn" motherboard from Intel). I can get the Talus driver >from Alpine computing, but my question is, how do I install NextStep >without at least borrowing an Adaptec or DPT SCSI driver for the install? I was wondering the same thing. I'm going to have a similar situation in 2 weeks: I just ordered a Zeos Pantera system with a Diamond Viper video card. Is it going to be a problem install the Viper driver 'cause it ain't on the CD-ROM? Does anyone know if this will be a problem? Or how to get around it if it is? Thanks, Mike
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS on a i486/100Mhz? Date: 7 May 1994 03:52:30 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qf39u$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2qbqpk$r5v@nsmmfs07.ac.com> Steve Krans - CTG (kransst@ac.com) wrote: : I have a friend who's buying some new hardware for running NS486, and was : look at the new 100Mhz i486. Does anyone have experience running NS on this : chip and where there any problems? What brand of hardware/motherboard? pasted from a saved message I found on my Harddrive: This is the benchmark for the Intel GX/Pro with DX4 100mhz processor, 32M RAM in 1120*832*16 NXBench.app v2.0 Dhrystone/s ->> 68337 VAX MIPS ->> 43.38 Mandelbrot.app ->> 100% faster than 66Mhz. Stephane Ah-ki sta@logibec.com that's the guy who posted it..... hope this helps a little.... Gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Message-ID: <1994May6.142908.9597@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Keywords: sound microsoft Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CpDBEp.BL5@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 14:29:08 GMT Does anyone have experience with the Microsoft Sound System ISA card? Serge J. Goldstein
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS on a i486/100Mhz? Date: Sat, 7 May 94 01:36:58 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <Rcwsk9S.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2qbqpk$r5v@nsmmfs07.ac.com> fastest 486-100 Mhz system is the eCesys , Wingine-based system, with the BusLogic 445s VL-Bus SCSI card. Period.
From: eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! NeXTstation is powerless! Date: 7 May 1994 06:38:17 GMT Organization: Portal Communications Company Message-ID: <2qfd0p$ie8@news1.svc.portal.com> Help! I got home a few days ago to find my NeXTstation powered off (gasp!) without explanation. I pressed the Power key, and nothing happened. :-( After thoroughly cleaning out the dust inside the slab, I closed it up and tried again, but still nothing. I also tested the CMOS battery (just in case), but it worked. Then I unplugged the connector that connects the power supply to the motherboard, and attempted to test it with a DVM. I couldn't get any readings, but I can't conclude that the supply is dead, since the Power key may switch it on via some of the conductors on the cable to the motherboard (does anyone know?). If anyone has experienced this problem before, knows of any fuses on the motherboard to check out, etc., please let me know via e-mail! Thanks. Eric -- -- Eric Schwartz eps@shell.portal.com (temporary address while whyanext.com is down)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware From: id@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca (Ian Duncan) Subject: Re: Large Monochrome Monitor Recommendations Message-ID: <1994May7.125108.19920@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Organization: McGill University Computing Centre References: <1994Apr25.032808.16671@princeton.edu> <2q761k$a35@lard.ftp.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 12:51:08 GMT In article <2q761k$a35@lard.ftp.com> cgull@locktite.ftp.com (Systems Swampthing) writes: >In article <1994Apr25.032808.16671@princeton.edu>, > John R. Penrod <jrpenrod@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> wrote: >B >>I'd like to purchase a nice black and white or gray scale >>full-page or dual-page monitor for my 486DX-33 machine. > >There aren't many choices. > >There are several possibilities if you're willing to put up with >proprietary video cards. Cornerstone and Sigma Designs pop to >mind, but there are others. I've seen catalogs offering gray-scale Ikegami monitors for <$1000CND. They claim compatiblity with hi-res Mac and SVGA to at least 1280x1024. They've been making high quality gear for a long time. If you get in touch with Ikegami US I'm sure they'll point you to a local distributor. Be very wary of these card & monitor combinations. They used to be necessary but with several choices for 'standardized' 1600x1200 video they're just a pain. -- ... ian <id@cc.mcgill.ca> Ian Duncan --- McGill University Computing Centre --- +.514.398.3710
From: bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Watcom tablets advice sought Date: 7 May 1994 13:00:17 GMT Organization: Comp. Sci. Ctr., Univ. of MD, College Park, MD 20742 Message-ID: <2qg3d1$911@umd5.umd.edu> References: <6MAY199409155157@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> <1994May6.181709.15837@news.media.mit.edu> Michael B. Johnson (wave@media.mit.edu) wrote: : In article <6MAY199409155157@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes: : >>Hi. I have a 25Mhz, 040 NeXTcube running NS3.2. I'm thinking of getting a : >>Watcom tablet for drawing. If you have experiece with these, please e-mail : >>advice. What do they cost? Where? What software do they work/not work : >>with? How long a cord? Is it extendable? Etc. Etc. Etc. : >>Thanks! : >>Don McCollam : >>mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu : I have a 12"x12" electrostatic Wacom tablet that I use on my NeXTStation : Color a lot. To my knowledge, Virtuoso is the only commercial app that : directly supports pressure, but I use the stylus in doing icon work using : my crufty old copy of Appsoft Image instead of a mouse. What's really : neat is since I'm left-handed but (for historical reasons) use my right hand : for mouse control, I can use both devices in overlap and it works great. ComposeInColor also supports the pressure mode of the Wacom. Note that by default, the tablet driver and DialupIP (SLIP) conflict with each other. (they use the same major device number) Contact Transsys for installation help. .Bill Chin
From: dnelson@scrinext.scri.fsu.edu (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Ethernet Card Best for NS Date: 7 May 1994 19:48:28 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <2qgrac$67f@mailer.fsu.edu> References: <1994May5.032120.1272@news.yale.edu> <2qb48e$al5@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> <1994May6.183124.10856@news.yale.edu> I purchased an intel on the net for under $60. Just look around. Dru
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus SCSI Driver Availability!! Date: 7 May 1994 21:26:30 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2qh126$lp5@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2qcjtl$f74@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> There are a number of sources for PCI/NCR-based SCSI boards. Typically, such boards retail for an amazingly low $70-$100. (The NS driver is an additional $250 or so for non-academics.) I have sent mail to TALUS, Alpine and Paradigm, telling them I would not hesitate to buy a package of a NS driver + PCI board from them. I suggest you do the same if you wish them to check out some of these boards. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Still having CD audio problems Date: 7 May 1994 17:53:48 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2qh2lc$feh@acme.gatech.edu> Ok.. I got the PASPlus driver as everyone suggested. And now Root can play CD's and I can hear it through my sound card..but.. My user account still can't do it. I still get "CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer" from cdaudio.util. I'm getting REALLY frustrated. I don't want to have to log in as root everytime I want to play a cd. John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ALR Pentium and NS... bad idea? Date: 7 May 1994 19:12:52 -0500 Organization: InterAccess Co., Chicago's Best Internet Provider Message-ID: <2qhaq4$akp@home.interaccess.com> References: <2pv6i7$p8q@great-miami.iac.net> <2q0kn5$72i@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> In article <2q0kn5$72i@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>, Ross Garrett Cutler <rgc@twix.cs.umd.edu> wrote: >Brick Eksten (brick@iac.net) wrote: > >: I am purchasing an ALR Pentium - 60.. 32 megs of ram, VL bus, Adaptec VL scsi >: controller.. OR same machine.. w/PCI bus and some mixture of ISA cards for now > >I don't think any Adaptec VL SCSI card is supported by NS (except maybe in 1542 mode). > >: until some decent PCI cards come out.. Will this be a decent NS system.. >: Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, esp with the choice of >: graphics adapter., > You may wish to try the following combination - ALR Evolution V (66Mhz) with 3 VESA LocalBus slots 3COM Ethernet card BusLogic LocalBus SCSI card (can't remember name) (445?) ATI LocalBus Graphics Ultra Pro IBM BusMouse in mouse port on rear of machine. A few of the bios settings need changing for the keyboard and mouse to work correctly, but apart from that the above system should work just fine. I had lots of system seize-ups until I swapped the SCSI card from an Adaptec to the BusLogic. You'll need the new drivers for Adaptec/BusLogic on a floppy under /usr before you begin though. If you've never installed NEXTSTEP before, the only way to get a floppy like this is to call NeXT. No luck with a decent sound configuration though. I've tried both ProAudio Spectrum and Micro$oft sound system. Both *uck up. - Brian. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Image Art Take the next "No problems... Only Solutions" Brian Leake step with NEXTSTEP phyd@interaccess.com
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 07 May 1994 07:27:12 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <MOW.94May7082712@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: ambi@world.std.com's message of Thu, 5 May 1994 19:31:45 GMT In article <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) writes: > Okay, time to show my ignorance: Why *doesn't* the MediaTrix card have > the same problem with the Adaptec card that the Pro Audio Spectrum does? > > My understanding of the MediaVision/Adaptec/ISA problem is that the Adaptec > 'grabs' the bus and stuff can't get to the sound board (aren't I a techno- > whiz? :-). If that's true, shouldn't this problem exist for *any* sound > card on an ISA bus with an Adaptec? I can only tell from my experience that it might be related with the PAS and not with the Adaptec. The reason is I had these lockups on ISA with a PAS and a DPT 2021 as well. Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.uni-stuttgart.de /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu (Steve Krans) Subject: Who's getting a Gecko? Message-ID: <skrans-070594094821@dialup-1-2.gw.umn.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 15:48:21 GMT I'm very interested in buying a HP 9000/712 for running NeXTSTEP, and I was wondering how many people are considering the same? -- skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu
From: griffon@unixg.ubc.ca (James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Soundman Wave and NS??? Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 22:01:15 +1000 Organization: UBC Message-ID: <griffon.56.00058688@unixg.ubc.ca> Hello!! Okay I know I am a bit behind the trend but I am looking for a soundcard for my NS system...1 q: I am interested in Logitech's Soundman Wave...I wonder if it would work under NS anyone tried it????Suggestions???? Thanx! James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mpman@shamu.micro.umn.edu (milam paraschou) Subject: Will Seagate scsi-II drive work as bootup drive? Message-ID: <CpH1p4.5y2@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab. Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 06:49:11 GMT I found a great deal on a seagate st31200n 1.05 gig drive, which is scsi-II, and I am wondering if I can install it internally into my next-workstation (motorola-040) as my bootup drive, or is it not compatable? I would be using 3.2 os. If anyone knows, please email me at mpman@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Who's getting a Gecko? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 08 May 1994 08:48:10 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May8094810@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <skrans-070594094821@dialup-1-2.gw.umn.edu> To: skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu (Steve Krans) In-reply-to: skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu's message of Sat, 7 May 1994 15:48:21 GMT <skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu> writes: >I'm very interested in buying a HP 9000/712 for running NeXTSTEP, and I was >wondering how many people are considering the same? I think sensible people (read: individuals) are waiting to see what happens with Sun and OpenStep before commiting themselves. Given the apparent factual comments about HP and NeXT at the moment. -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: muyanja@hpbs2571.boi.hp.com (Bill Muyanja) Subject: [Q] NS/FIP 3.1 + AHA-1740 ??? Sender: news@boi.hp.com (Boise Site News Server) Message-ID: <CpHxLL.83y@boi.hp.com> Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 18:20:09 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Boise Greetings, NS/FIP Gurus! BACKGROUND: ============ I have a copy of NS/FIP 3.1 that I purchased to "kick the tires". It's now gathering dust, because my SCSI card (Adaptec AHA-2742T BIOS v. 1.1) is not supported (and will never be supported :-() on NS/FIP 3.1. I have no intention of "upgrading" to 3.2 for $900 (I'm not even sure that deal is still on - basically I stopped following NS/FIP issues about 4 months ago). I now have an opportunity to acquire an Adaptec 1740 card BIOS V1.34. Looking at my old H/W Compatibility Guide (for NS 3.1), I see that 1740 support was planned for 3.2. I don't know much about the 1740 card, but I thought that it could emulate a 154x card (i.e. I can use 154x drivers). THE $300 QUESTION: =================== So ... Can I run NS/FIP 3.1 using a 1740 card? If so, what drivers do I need to install, and what gotchas should I look out for ??? MY SYSTEM: ========== Rest of my system: HP Vectra 486/33U, 16Meg, S3 chipset on MB with 1Meg VRAM, Mag Innovation 17", Toshiba XM-3401 CD-ROM, USR 14.4k Fax/Modem, SB 16/ASP SCSI-2 soundcard and a couple of 1gig SCSI-2 HDs. I plan to eventually set up a Netware 3.11 lan, using some 3Com 3C509 combo cards ((RJ45, BNC, AUI) that I scounged up. I currently plan to go RJ45. Sorry, if this has been discussed numerous times - like I said, I unfortunately stopped following this newsgroup a few months ago. Bill Muyanja muyanja@hpbs2571.boi.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: Who's getting a Gecko? Message-ID: <1994May8.194749.1439@rna.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <ROBERT.94May8094810@steffi.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 19:47:49 GMT Robert Nicholson writes > <skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu> writes: > > >I'm very interested in buying a HP 9000/712 for running NeXTSTEP, and I was > >wondering how many people are considering the same? > > I think sensible people (read: individuals) are waiting to see what > happens with Sun and OpenStep before commiting themselves. Given the > apparent factual comments about HP and NeXT at the moment. I am considering a Gecko. I think one bird in the hand is better than 10 in the air (though nature-protective types may like the other way around :-) -- gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sony MO drive repair Date: 8 May 1994 16:15:20 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <2qjh8o$n3f@panix2.panix.com> Who repairs Sony SMO-E501 650 meg optical drives?
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Moaning Maxtor hard drive (moto) Date: 8 May 1994 20:43:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qjiu4$k0p@agate.berkeley.edu> A couple of times this spring my early-model 330 MB Maxtor drive has let out a tinny moan. Now I know that that usually means that it's almost curtains for the drive, but is there anything I could do to perpetuate the drive a little longer? Perhaps Maxtor drives just make a noise like that once in a while? Or should I plan on slating some time this summer to reconfigure a new drive? Any advice--experience anecdotes would be appreciated. Please send email to cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu. Oh, I have an older NeXT cube with an 040 upgrade board running 3.0. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Mills College Oakland, CA USA
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 8 May 1994 20:57:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qjjo4INN7t1@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> In article <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com>, ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) writes: |> |> Okay, time to show my ignorance: Why *doesn't* the MediaTrix card have |> the same problem with the Adaptec card that the Pro Audio Spectrum does? Because it's not a bus-mastering card, and probably isn't a heavy user of DMA, either. |> My understanding of the MediaVision/Adaptec/ISA problem is that the Adaptec |> 'grabs' the bus and stuff can't get to the sound board (aren't I a techno- |> whiz? :-). If that's true, shouldn't this problem exist for *any* sound |> card on an ISA bus with an Adaptec? I'll try to be brief, but the topic is fairly complex (and I'm no expert, so somebody please correct me if I blow it)... Traditionally, ISA boards transfer data by means of a technique called "programmed I/O", or PI/O for short. In this transfer mode, the bus controller (aka the CPU, for ISA) drives all bus cycles. Which peripheral gets to transfer data at any given time is therefore determined by which driver is running on the CPU. This technique has a couple of drawbacks a.) Throughput is limited to approx. 4 MB/sec (one 16-bit PI/O transfer generally takes 4 clock cycles, but there are exceptions) b.) The CPU is completely hogged whenever an ISA peripheral is transferring data via PI/O. For example, an Ethernet board operating at peak throughput (yeah, right) and using PI/O would require approximately 30% of ISA's total bandwidth. Because the CPU would also be busy whenever data was being transferred, the CPU loading during Ethernet transfers would _also_ be at least 30%. Beginning to understand why people on c.s.n.h like to gripe about ISA being a "brain-dead architecture"? Bus mastering is one technique that avoids these limitations (DMA is another, which I won't discuss for brevity's sake). A bus-mastering peripheral is one which can drive it's own bus cycles. A typical mode of operation for a bus mastering peripheral is as follows: 1.) The driver (running on the CPU) tells the bus master to so something, and specifies a range of memory in which the results of that operation (i.e. a block of data read in from disk) are to be placed. 2.) The bus master does whatever it needs to, and then drives its own bus cycles to place the resulting data where the driver wanted it. Note that during this phase, the CPU could hypothetically be doing something else... 3.) When finished, the bus master generally uses an IRQ to invoke it's driver on the CPU. At this point, the transfer is complete. Looking at the above, one advantage is immediately obvious - CPU loadings can be reduced. In addition, bus mastering cycles can generally complete faster than PI/O cycles. The Adaptec 154x series (which are bus-masters) can attain 8 MB/sec throughput on ISA by completing a 16-bit transfer cycle every 2 ISA clock cycles. Unfortunately, ISA's support for bus masters is half-assed at best. The transfer modes involved have historically been undocumented, and there is no arbitration protocol to resolve contention issues between multiple bus-masters (or even between bus-masters and non bus-masters). This is why the PAS-16 and the Adaptec 1542CF are not the fastest of friends when installed in the same system. With EISA, MicroChannel, and PCI, the situation is infinitely better. All three architectures fully support bus mastering (and they're generally a whole lot faster as well). If you're buying a new system, and you want to use both SCSI and a PAS-16, your best bet may be to either buy an EISA box and use a DPT SCSI controller (assuming the driver has been fixed properly), or get a PCI-based system with the NCR SCSI controller and use the Talus driver. Either way, the SCSI controller is moved to a place from which it can bus-master without hosing the audio board. Your overall system performance should be better as well. |> |> Someone want to straighten me out on this? |> |> Mike |> Hope that helped (hope I got it right! :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 8 May 1994 21:17:14 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qjksqINN7t1@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <MOW.94May7082712@marsu.tynet.sub.org> In article <MOW.94May7082712@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: |> |> I can only tell from my experience that it might be related with the |> PAS and not with the Adaptec. The reason is I had these lockups on ISA |> with a PAS and a DPT 2021 as well. Actually, it's related to both. See my previous post. The DPT also bus-masters on ISA. Get an EISA DPT and your troubles will disappear (or possibly be replaced by EATA timeout errors...). |> Markus. |> -- |> /dev/ Markus Wenzel |> /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.uni-stuttgart.de |> /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart |> /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
From: Zachary_Bortolot@brown.edu (Zachary Bortolot) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How feasible is running NS w/8megs? Date: 8 May 1994 21:21:10 GMT Organization: Brown University, Providence, RI -- USA Message-ID: <2qjl46$8mj@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Hi! I am considering purchasing NeXT Step for my 486DX2-66, but I only have 8M of RAM (I want to wait for RAM prices to come down again.) I know I would not be able to run in color, but would regular applications be able to run (on virtual memory) or would I get out of memory errors? Also, are there any parts of the system which would not function due to lack of memory? Thanks in advance!
From: tyf@blackslab.hip.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How feasible is running NS w/8megs? Date: 8 May 1994 23:57:11 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2qju8n$mqp@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2qjl46$8mj@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> In article <2qjl46$8mj@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Zachary_Bortolot@brown.edu (Zachary Bortolot) writes: + Hi! I am considering purchasing NeXT Step for my 486DX2-66, but I only have 8M of + RAM (I want to wait for RAM prices to come down again.) I know I would not be able to run + in color, but would regular applications be able to run (on virtual memory) or would I get + out of memory errors? Also, are there any parts of the system which would not function due + to lack of memory? Thanks in advance! There won't be any "out of memory" error with Virtual memory. But with only 8 MB of RAM you will see a lot of disk swapping after you open 3 or 4 apps. simultaneously. Some apps like SoftPC / Pages just require more than 8 MB RAM to run decently. The bottom line is .. buy more RAM ... -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NeXTmail/email : tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
From: b_drake@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Bruce Drake) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Why does it have to be a SCSI CD-ROM? and adapter Date: 9 May 1994 02:08:50 GMT Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia. Message-ID: <2qk5vi$ahu@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> Hi who ever reads this, As the subject says... Why does NeXTStep/intel "absolutely" need a SCSI CD-ROM and SCSI adapter, why can't one use any other type of CD-ROM available for PC, the FAQS go on about it but I would like to know why!!!!! Bruce -- <Place irrelevant annoying opinion on life etcetera here.> b_drake@postoffice.utas.edu.au
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why does it have to be a SCSI CD-ROM? and adapter Date: 9 May 1994 03:20:06 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2qka56$cad@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2qk5vi$ahu@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> In article <2qk5vi$ahu@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au>, Bruce Drake <b_drake@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au> wrote: >Hi who ever reads this, > >As the subject says... > >Why does NeXTStep/intel "absolutely" need a SCSI CD-ROM and SCSI adapter, >why can't one use any other type of CD-ROM available for PC, the FAQS go on >about it but I would like to know why!!!!! > Because NeXT has not devoted the time/resources to writing device drivers for such devices (for good cause). There is a lack of standards for controlling CD-ROM drives (and in some cases their contollers) and more pop up every day. Most drive manufacturers supply software to enable their products to run under DOS, Windows, sometimes OS/2 etc. There are a plethora of devices for Intel PC's that will never be supported under NeXTstep. Some have proprietary interfaces and the programming details have been kept secret. Others have technical limitations or bugs that prevent them from working under NS. There may be vendor drivers or special BIOS's that allow simpler, less demanding OS's to function with these devices. Many devices will not be popular enough to warrant development of special drivers. Other devices are so cheap ( or cheaply built) that they can be replaced with other devices that are supported for nominal cost. To many hardware vendors the cost of developing NS drivers for their products is not supported by the present number of NS users. There are probably additional variations on this theme, but these are the basics. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: David Apfelbaum <da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Repairing NeXT 256MB MO drives Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 00:50:22 -0400 Organization: Sponsored account, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0hnQ4Cm00WA7NZTD1C@andrew.cmu.edu> I just acquired a NeXT Cube with a MO drive. Unfortunately, while the Cube itself is fine, the MO drive is "sick". When I insert a OD cartridge, the drive accepts it. It then spins the OD up, and makes clicking noises (at roughtly 1-2 Hz.) like the head is seeking. After perhaps 10 seconds, it gives up, the MO drive spins down, and the whole Cube hangs. (I'm running NS2.1 if that matters.) I mean hangs as in the window manager freezes. Keyboard and mouse events are lost. And the LED at the rear of the motherboard stops flashing. After another 5 - 10 seconds or so, the MO drive starts spinning back up again and the whole pattern repeats... After 5 tries or so, something gives up, and the OD cartridge is ejected. On the advice of a friend, I have tried cleaning the head of the laser-unit. (Both by going in through the front door, and by taking the drive out and disassembling it.) Unfortunately, this didn't change anything... So I was wondering if anyone out there might have seen this failure mode before... Or if anyone might have any ideas... (For what it's worth, this MO drive did have a dust cover, and was fairly clean inside...) Thanks, -David Apfelbaum.
From: masa@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr M Takatsuka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need advice!(HDD,Moto) Date: 9 May 94 15:19:57 Organization: Dept. of Electrical & Computer Systems Engigeeirng, Monash University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MASA.94May9151957@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au> I'm thinking purchasing 1GB External HDD for my Box(040). I've heard that some HDD can be used for NeXTmachine. So, I'd like to know which manifacture's HDD(Quantum, Conner, Seagate, Maxtor, Fujitu,..) which model is available for NeXTmachie. If someone could give me advice, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you Masa ============================================================================ Masahiro Takatsuka (MASA) e-mail: Masahiro.Takatsuka@eng.monash.edu.au(non-NeXTmail) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent Robotics Research Center :OzNeXT :xxxxxx Eng. Building 6, Room No. G04 :NeXus :92-00226 Department of Electrical & :CompuServe :71661,1331 Computer Systems Engineering :Nifty-serve :MGG1331 Monash University : Wellington Rd., Clayton : Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA : ============================================================================ -- ============================================================================ Masahiro Takatsuka (MASA) e-mail: Masahiro.Takatsuka@eng.monash.edu.au(non-NeXTmail) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent Robotics Research Center :OzNeXT :xxxxxx Eng. Building 6, Room No. G04 :NeXus :92-00226 Department of Electrical & :CompuServe :71661,1331 Computer Systems Engineering :Nifty-serve :MGG1331 Monash University : Wellington Rd., Clayton : Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA : ============================================================================
From: grey@shadow.dartmouth.edu (M. Alexander Broadhead) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ariel DM-N specs Date: 9 May 1994 06:36:40 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Message-ID: <2qkllo$59s@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Keywords: A/D, Ariel, DSP I am trying to use an Ariel DM-N digital microphone as the A/D converter for a real-time audio DSP project on the NeXT. Right now I'm just trying to get a talk-through running, using Jean Laroche's examples from ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu. Laroche's examples are designed for use with either MetaResearch's Digital Ears or the Singular Solutions A/D64X, and he notes that they do not work on the DM-N. (He's right.) I've been in touch with Ariel, and while they did provide me with the format of the data transmitted to the SSI, and mention that the SCI is used to set the sampling rate of the mike, they don't seem to want to elaborate on how. Does anyone out there know? I wrote a workaround, which does actually talk-through. The DM-N seems to sample at 5.5kHz by default, so I just send each sample to the DACs eight times. It sounds OK but aliases like hell, and I really need a Nyquist frequency greater than ~3kHz. (I want to do CD-quality audio!) Does anyone have any idea why Ariel is unwilling to talk about this? They seem to have stopped responding to my email altogether, and I have been as polite as possible. Alex -- M.Broadhead@dartmouth.edu (NO NeXT mail) "Shrimp... plate... grey@shadow.dartmouth.edu (NeXT mail OK) plate o' shrimp..."
From: alf@drdhh.hanse.de (Ulf Zimmermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 274x and 284x driver Date: 7 May 1994 04:36:10 +0200 Organization: The ministry of silly hostnames Message-ID: <2qeuqq$kqc@drdhh.hanse.de> Hi everybody ! So now i have set up my system and i am working on the last few pages of code to convert from adaptec. i think the driver will be ready over this weekend, if not a beautiful woman keep me away from work. I can be reach now over the address in the bottom or over alf@drdhh.hanse.de. Bye, ALF. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ALF Zimmermann, Uferstr. 21c, 22081 Hamburg, Germany Tel.: +49-40-29990310, Fax.: +49-40-292815 email: alf@gordon.hanse.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org> Subject: [intel] and possibly [m68k], Insite Floptical 21 Mb w/ AH 1542C Message-ID: <1994May9.094037.8419@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 09:40:37 GMT This article was posted to c.s.n.sysadmin by mistake. It probably belongs here instead : Everytime you have a problem, you look into your archived news because you know someone has faced it before. And every single time, you realize that you didn't same that particular one you needed. Well, DL can't find anything about floptical in my news archive and FAQs. I have an ADAPTEC 1542C SCSI controller and a NEXTSTEP PC (ATI,Bus Mouse,...). A friend lent me an Insite Floptical Drive. It doesn't work. It won't format a 1.44 HD disk, won't read a PC,Mac or NeXT 1.44 Disk. I haven't tried a 21 Mb yet but I will buy one Tuesday. I'll continue experimenting and saving the error messages. If you have anything for, don't hesitate : he's selling it cheap to me ! ;) Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
From: dag@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SYSTEM INTEGRATOR NEEDED Message-ID: <1994May9.115427.5857@tanuki.twics.com> Date: 9 May 94 11:54:27 JST Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] SYSTEM INTEGRATOR NEEDED Chicago Pneumatics, a manufacturing company in Utica, NY, owned by Swedish multi-national tool maker Atlas Copco, is planning an upgrade to their computer system. In this context, they are interested in evaluating solutions using NEXTSTEP. I have been asked by the man in charge of this to post a request to interested VARs and system developers/integrators to get in touch with Chicago Pneumatics for a discussion on the various possibilities for a fruitful project. If your company is doing administrative/manufacturing-related NEXTSTEP development, please contact Jim LaCombe at Chicago Pneumatics, via phone at (315) 792-2768 or via FAX at (315) 792-2838. He can also be reached at 72122.1166@CompuServe.COM.
From: jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does NS take advantage of pentium? Date: 9 May 1994 12:23:28 GMT Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qla00$81c@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Keywords: intel, pentium I am looking to get a new NS machine and was wondering if NS takes adavtage of any pentium features? More importantly, will I see the 2 or 3 times speed improvement intel claims (I hopinging to go from a 486/50 to a pentium 90 or 100)? Or, since I'm student, should I take advantage of HP great educational discounts and by a HP Gecko? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Otto "Apes don't read philoshpy" disclaimer Wanda "Sure they do, they just don't understand it" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: levine@oclc.org (Eugene Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStep and IDE hard drives Date: 9 May 1994 08:39:49 -0400 Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. Message-ID: <2qlaul$99q@oclc.org> I just purchased the Gateway P5-66 with the Viper Card to run NeXTStep and DOS. I bought it with 2 540 IDE hard drives (for cost reasons). One for DOS/Windows and one for NeXTStep. BTW I plan on borrowing a 1542 SCSI card and CDROM to load the software. Does anyone have NeXTStep running on IDE hard drives, whats performance like? According to what I've heard, the only IDE drives that NeXTStep has problems with are on IBM's value point line. Any success stories out there? -gene -- / E. T. (Gene) Levine OCLC Inc. \ | levine@oclc.org 6565 Frantz Road | | NeXT mail welcome! Dublin, OH 43017 | \ OCLC => "Services for Libraries" (614) 761-5045 /
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu(Denise Blakeley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Who's getting a Gecko? Date: 9 May 1994 13:08:20 GMT Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C., USA Message-ID: <2qlck4$vo@news.duke.edu> References: <skrans-070594094821@dialup-1-2.gw.umn.edu> Steve Krans writes > I'm very interested in buying a HP 9000/712 for running NeXTSTEP, and I was > wondering how many people are considering the same? We just got one and booted it up this morning! Not running NeXTSTEP yet, but in time. Denise -- Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall, Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for (919) 286-6468 W | reward. blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: kaoki@ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Kenichiro Aoki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I fixed my NeXT mouse Date: 9 May 94 09:56:39 Organization: Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics, Kyoto, Japan. Message-ID: <KAOKI.94May9095639@ps1.ps1.yukawa.kyoto-u.ac.jp> References: <1994May1.015849.12220@midway.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu's message of Sun, 1 May 1994 01:58:49 GMT >>>>> On Sun, 1 May 1994 01:58:49 GMT, chwe@chwe1.spc.uchicago.edu (Michael Suk-Young Chwe) said: Michael> I just thought I would share a somewhat banal but successful mouse-fixing Michael> story. Already on my second mouse (non-ADB, mono station) in three years, I Michael> noticed my mouse started to behave weirdly: the pointer would skip, the motion [...] Michael> So do not be afraid to take apart your mouse and clean up the rollers! I have non-adb, but I echo this sentiment. Just take the ring off and give the rollers a cleaning every once in a while. If you have not cleaned it for a while, you wouldn't believe it. It makes a biiiig difference. Btw, I use isopropyl alcohol (aka rubbing alcohol) with a cotton swab. -- Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN Not posting from the usual node, due to problems.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: vermeer@imag.imag.fr (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) Subject: Drivers for ET4000 W32i ? Message-ID: <1994May9.103341.26229@imag.fr> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 10:33:41 GMT Where can I find NS drivers for the ET-4000 W32i garphic card? I've searched NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM and found nothing, except that there exists a Nec-certifyed system... Anyone has a driver for me? (ftp anonymous or uuencoded mail OK). Alex.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mcgaffeyrw@ornl.gov (Robert William McGaffey) Subject: Tape Backup Drive: Viper 150, HELP Message-ID: <mcgaffeyrw.1.2DCE4AA5@ornl.gov> Keywords: Archive viper 150 Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster) Organization: Information Mangaement Services Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 14:37:26 GMT I need help installing a Viper 150 tape backup drive. I have an Intel 486 and have installed first NeXTStep 3.1 and upgraded to 3.2. The SCSI controller I have is Adaptec 1542c. The AMI bios does recognize the drive but NeXTStep ignores it. Robert McGaffey rwm@ornl.gov
From: fate@summit.novell.com (Tom Vaden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1meg #9gxe on dell xps 466v Date: 9 May 1994 14:56:51 GMT Organization: Novell, Summit, NJ Sender: fate@usl.com (Tom Vaden) Message-ID: <2qlivj$hto@bird.summit.novell.com> I can get b&w to work fine with 3.2 on my 1meg #9 but I can't seem to get any color working properly at any resolution. I get 2/3 of the screen looking right but 1/3 of the screen doesn't show anything. All the while the os thinks things are swell and apparently uses that part of the screen real estate, but nothing is visible to the human eye. Both the next hw compatibility guide and the #9 specs say I should be okay with color at 800x600 thanks, tom
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does NS take advantage of pentium? Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 11:18:32 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hnZF8K00iUzE2l8kV@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2qla00$81c@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-May-94 Does NS take advantage of p.. by John D Stanhope@aplexus. > I am looking to get a new NS machine and was wondering if NS takes adavtage > of any pentium features? More importantly, will I see the 2 or 3 times > speed improvement intel claims (I hopinging to go from a 486/50 to a > pentium 90 or 100)? I'm pretty sure that NS/Intel has been compiled with the special instruction re-ordering required to get the additional performance boost on the Pentium. (Is "Pentium ready code" marketspeak for such products, yet?) > Or, since I'm student, should I take advantage of HP great educational > discounts and by a HP Gecko? This may also be a good idea. You'll have to make the decision yourself, however. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Message-ID: <CpGxp4.76A@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> <CpDBEp.BL5@utstat.toronto.edu> <2qf2sh$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 05:24:40 GMT In article <2qf2sh$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: [ ] >sorry dude... but I do not, nor do I have the need to record, nor do I know >how...... maybe someday I will learn when I need to dot it. Fine, but being able to record is a somewhat important feature of NeXT Mail. To use it click on the lips ... [ ] >: It would be nice before people claim things work for them to say what >: exactly does and doesn't work. I would say that not having recording is >: not minor. > >like I said, I probably will never need to record... it sounds ok to me and >that is what I was looking for in a sound card. > >Please, subscribe to the NS/FIP HomeBrew mailing list and we would love to >hear how to record with this card, etc. I'm not a music person, but someday >I may need that function. It has nothing to do with music, nothing, nothing at all...It has to do with reading, writing, drawing and talking. >If you want to post the driver that would be awesome. I think that people should simply call Mediatrix if they are interested in the card, and make sure that it records in NS/Intel. As for mailing lists, we don't like flyers or other random information sent to our home. >Gary >stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu >Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: swiener@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Sebastian Wiemer) Subject: RE: DELL XPS P60 incompatible? Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator) Message-ID: <CpJLEt.GDt@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 15:52:05 GMT Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet. Hi, I've benn using the DELL XPS P60 with NSfIP for serveral months. There was NO problem at all. The serial ports work both smooth and without any problem. The parallel port hangs everytime the system is switched on. But after reboot, the printer (HP LaserJet IV m) works without any trouble. There is no error reportet. The performance is only average (somewhat about 5% faster than a NSTC). If anyone is interested I may send an NXBenchmark2.0 result. The kernel panic, while booting, is due to the Adaptec SCSI driver. It can be exchanged with the new one. (at cs.orst.edu I think) Happy hacking.... Sebastian Wiemer wiemer@cip.informatik.uni-muenchen.de swiener@techfak.informatik.uni-bielefeld.de
From: bzfwunde@.zib-berlin.de (Roland Wunderling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: driver for GA-403 VLbus SCSI controler ? Date: 9 May 1994 16:46:53 GMT Organization: Konrad Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qlpdt$n78@newsserv.zib-berlin.de> Hello net, would NEXTSTEP run on a GA-403 VL SCSI 2 controler? It features an adaptec AIC-6360 chipset and licensed adaptec BIOS & drivers. Thanks for any reply, Roland Wunderling
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does NS take advantage of pentium? Date: 9 May 1994 18:27:35 GMT Organization: Stanford University: Computer Science Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qlvan$7lo@Times.Stanford.EDU> References: <4hnZF8K00iUzE2l8kV@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes | | I'm pretty sure that NS/Intel has been compiled with the special | instruction re-ordering required to get the additional performance boost | on the Pentium. (Is "Pentium ready code" marketspeak for such products, | yet?) | I can confirm that for numerical code with all optimization turned on, NeXT cc (gcc 2.4.5) on a Pentium is a clear winner over gcc-2.5.8. So I would imagine yes, they've definitely optimized the instruction scheduling. --- Scott Roy Department of Computer Science Stanford University
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is NeXTStep Intel "OPTMIZED"/recompiled for the Pentium?? Date: 9 May 1994 20:00:17 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2qm4oh$q7c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, I am trying to decide between a DX4/100 chip and a Pentium 60. Now the issue of whether NS takes advanatage of the 32 bit structure, etc. bites (no pun intended). What's the lowdown here? Sincerely curious, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: auyeung@ole_miss.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cheung Auyeung) Subject: Re: NeXT 256MB MO Drive Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 16:27:18 GMT Message-ID: <1994May9.162718.12930@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> References: <2prijd$f6n@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <2q8vtu$duh@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Sender: auyeung@ole_miss (Cheung Auyeung) I ordered the P90 from Gateway with 90 MHz P54 Pentium processor 32 MB ram 1 Gig SCSI Seagate hard disk Adaptec 1542CF Controller card. I also ordered the Miro Crystal 32s Graphic card from Alpine. After setting the 1542CF with the correct DMA and IRQ as described in the NextAnswer 1108 and connect my old NeXT CD-ROM drive with a SCSI terminator to the SCSI controller, I was able to load and run NextStep. The only problem that I observed was that the mouse pointer would jump to a different location occasionally. But in MS Window, the mouse pointer worked fine. Can someone tell me how to fix the mouse problem? Thanks. I would also like to change the background color of Terminal.app, Edit.app, and other application to a darker color, and to change the foreground text to yellow to reduce eye strain. Can someone tell me how to change the foreground and background color? Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: auyeung@ole_miss.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cheung Auyeung) Subject: Re: Gateway P5-90 Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 17:57:31 GMT Message-ID: <1994May9.175731.24350@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> Keywords: NS,Pentium,performance References: <2qdr6o$pj1@crcnis1.unl.edu> Sender: auyeung@ole_miss (Cheung Auyeung) Sorry for posting it again. I have some problem with xrn this morning and I posted it with the incorrect subject title. Cheung --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I ordered the P90 from Gateway with 90 MHz P54 Pentium processor 32 MB ram 1 Gig SCSI Seagate hard disk Adaptec 1542CF Controller card. I also ordered the Miro Crystal 32s Graphic card from Alpine. After setting the 1542CF with the correct DMA and IRQ as described in the NextAnswer 1108 and connect my old NeXT CD-ROM drive with a SCSI terminator to the SCSI controller, I was able to load and run NextStep. The only problem that I observed was that the mouse pointer would jump to a different location occasionally. But in MS Window, the mouse pointer worked fine. Can someone tell me how to fix the mouse problem? Thanks. I would also like to change the background color of Terminal.app, Edit.app, and other application to a darker color, and to change the foreground text to yellow to reduce eye strain. Can someone tell me how to change the foreground and background color? Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mikef@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Fleming) Subject: NeXT CD-ROM Drive: Windows Drivers Availible? Sender: news@mozo.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News) Message-ID: <CpKEHr.M1G@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 02:20:14 GMT Organization: Purdue Data Network We have a NeXT CD-ROM drive here and need to get it working under DOS/Windows--at least for a brief instant. It seems apparent that we need a driver of some sort. Will almost any SCSI CD ROM driver suffice? Is there a driver in particular that will work? Most importantly: WHERE do we get this driver? Everyone in the DOS/Windows world insists on telling us to "contact the manufacturer." Somehow I doubt that's a real solution...:) Mike Fleming
From: grey@shadow.dartmouth.edu (M. Alexander Broadhead) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ariel DM-N specs (spoilers) Date: 10 May 1994 02:33:39 GMT Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Message-ID: <2qmrq3$o98@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Keywords: Ariel, DSP, A/D Thanks to the two people who tried to help out. You got us started, and we seem to have figured it out completely. I thought I'd post what we'd got for the benefit of anyone else in a similar situation. The standard init values for the 56001's port C control registers (from Laroche's examples) are: PCC $1E0 PCDDR $01C PCD $010 This sets the pins 0-4 of port C to be general purpose I/O (PCC), sets pins 2-4 to be outputs (PCDDR), and initializes pin 4 high (PCD). Pins 2 and 3 seem to be the ones that communicate with the DM-N. I have only bothered to verify two settings, but here's my guess as to the whole table: Pin 3 Pin 2 Sample Rate Verified? 0 0 5.5kHz Y 0 1 11kHz N 1 0 22.05kHz N 1 1 44.1kHz Y Note that if you were to omit initializing any of these registers (by, for instance, changing an I/O equate), all unspecified port C pins would probably be pulled high by default, causing a sample rate of 44.1kHz to be chosen... The data format for the Ariel is the same as that for the Digital Ears, so you can consult Laroche's examples (ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu) for the details of the SSI setup. As for why Ariel wouldn't tell us this stuff, I still have no idea, and still haven't heard anything from them. Thanks, Alex -- M.Broadhead@dartmouth.edu (NO NeXT mail) "Shrimp... plate... grey@shadow.dartmouth.edu (NeXT mail OK) plate o' shrimp..."
From: tuyo@mumford (Mike M. Tuyo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Setting Up A Dial-In Modem Date: 10 May 1994 03:16:02 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2qmu9i$540@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I Would like to setup a modem on my NeXTStation '40 box, so I can dial into it when I'm not home. I've don't what the DigiLib said to do, but it doen't seem to work. I constantly see the send&recv lights flashing. Can anyone give me some assistance? I would really appreciate it. Mike Tuyo tuyo@mumford.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CDPlayer.app and NEC From: damon.cooper@canrem.com (Damon Cooper) Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.8871.2744.0N19DCC4@canrem.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 94 23:31:00 -0400 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) After reading someone's mention of getting the CDPlayer.app working with a NEC CD-ROM drive, I pulled the cover off my box and flicked the suggested dip switche in an effort to get the CDPlayer.app to work... Previous to this attempt, I had the Public Sound Server "ON", tried logging in as root, etc, etc, but all could ever get was: Probing for CDROM Probing for DOS Probing for mac Probing for cdaudio Then I got the famous "EJECT DISK" msg. Okay. Now to the current day. I read that somebody got it to work by flipping the CD-ROM drive switch that puts the drive into SCSI-2 mode instead of SCSI-1. I flipped the switch, but then when I re-boot the machine, the adaptor scans the SCSI bus (as usual) but can't find the CD-ROM. The CD-ROM "busy" light also flickers constantly when this switch is on. Help! If anyone has a similar config to below with CDPlayer.app working, I'd really like to hear about it! My config: -> Fujitsu 1G SCSI-2 -> NEC 84-I Internal CD-ROM drive -> BusLogic 747S (the earlier ver that works with the Adaptec 1542 driver) Thanks in advance!!! Damon F. Cooper damon.cooper@canrem.com --- * CmpQwk #UNREG* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
From: masa@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr M Takatsuka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quantum Empire1080 + Cube(040):work? Date: 10 May 94 14:52:33 Organization: Dept. of Electrical & Computer Systems Engigeeirng, Monash University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MASA.94May10145233@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au> Hello, I'm thinking buying Quantum Empire1080 for my Cube. Is anyone using a Quantum Empire1080 with NeXTmachine(station, cube)?? If someone could give me advice, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you Masa -- ============================================================================ Masahiro Takatsuka (MASA) e-mail: Masahiro.Takatsuka@eng.monash.edu.au(non-NeXTmail) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent Robotics Research Center :OzNeXT :xxxxxx Eng. Building 6, Room No. G04 :NeXus :92-00226 Department of Electrical & :CompuServe :71661,1331 Computer Systems Engineering :Nifty-serve :MGG1331 Monash University : Wellington Rd., Clayton : Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA : ============================================================================
From: masa@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr M Takatsuka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <MASA.94May9151957@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au> Control: cancel <MASA.94May9151957@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au> Date: 10 May 94 15:20:32 Organization: Dept. of Electrical & Computer Systems Engigeeirng, Monash University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MASA.94May10152032@fawlty9.eng.monash.edu.au> -- ============================================================================ Masahiro Takatsuka (MASA) e-mail: Masahiro.Takatsuka@eng.monash.edu.au(non-NeXTmail) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligent Robotics Research Center :OzNeXT :xxxxxx Eng. Building 6, Room No. G04 :NeXus :92-00226 Department of Electrical & :CompuServe :71661,1331 Computer Systems Engineering :Nifty-serve :MGG1331 Monash University : Wellington Rd., Clayton : Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA : ============================================================================
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Intel] problem with UltraScan monitor and #9GXE driver Date: 10 May 1994 07:39:56 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qndoc$7rd@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Using the configuration app, I've set my #9GXE to some high resolution and 72 MHz refresh rate and rebooted the computer, and now when NEXTSTEP should come up, I get a black screen instead. Everything was working just fine before I played with the settings. What files can I copy from the CDROM in single-user mode to set things straight again? Many thanks for any assistance!! Roland --------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 10 May 1994 02:36:35 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2qna1j$i84@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon as they become available. Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. Comp.Sys.Next.Software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. related Newsgroups ------------------ Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. Comp.Lang.Objective-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News ------------------------------------------- Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep-d next-advocacy-d next-announce-d next-bugs-d next-hardware-d next-marketplace-d next-misc-d next-programmer-d next-software-d next-sysadmin-d (For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to <digestif@antigone.com>). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's. To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying: SUB Listname YourName Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe The ftp sites ------------- cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany. terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp.next.com: See the below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ------------------------------------- From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by anonymous ftp. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. 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If you have problems using this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com. Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Intel] problem with UltraScan monitor and #9GXE driver Date: 10 May 1994 08:08:28 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qnfds$82k@zip.eecs.umich.edu> References: <2qndoc$7rd@zip.eecs.umich.edu> I figured out the answer to my question. Just copy the directory /usr/Devices/Number9.config from the CD to the boot volume. Bing! You're back in business. Thanks, folks! Roland --------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Telfeyan Display Technology & Manufacturing telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu University of Michigan EECS Department ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Subject: Re: NeXTStep and IDE hard drives Message-ID: <CpKMEI.JMI@nosloc.com> Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison) Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies References: <2qlaul$99q@oclc.org> Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 05:11:05 GMT I have used some IDE drives with NeXT. The performance is fairly acceptable, no concrete numbers though. However, I have some words about using IDE drives. It seems that most IDE controllers have a limit on the number of cylinders allowed within the disk geometry. The limit is 1024. So, be careful when trying to upgrade to large IDE drives, you may not be able to get the full size from the default controller. =derek -- Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com Nosloc Software Technologies NeXTSTEP Consulting and Software Design
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Who's getting a Gecko? Message-ID: <1994May10.072148.11126@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 07:21:48 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <skrans-070594094821@dialup-1-2.gw.umn.edu> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <skrans-070594094821@dialup-1-2.gw.umn.edu> writes: > I'm very interested in buying a HP 9000/712 for running NeXTSTEP, and I was > wondering how many people are considering the same? > > -- > skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu We have a 712/60 right now and will be running NEXTSTEP as soon as it is available. I hope to be allowed to do some beta-testing, though NeXT seams to be very strict on this matter. -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: krmwe01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Dirk Weltz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] Can I use ATI GUP PCI with a PCI-board and NS 3.2 Date: 10 May 94 10:14:48 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at ZDV Uni-Tuebingen Message-ID: <krmwe01.768564888@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Summary: Can I use a ATI GUP with a PCI-board. Is there a driver. Keywords: graphicscard, PCI, ATI GUP Hello, i want to buy a PCI-board with a 486/66. Now I look for a good graphicscard. I have a ATI GU+, and so I want a ATI GUP PCI. Did anyown know if there is a driver for it. Please mail to dweltz@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Thank you
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 10 May 1994 11:33:09 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qnrdl$7n1@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> <2qjjo4INN7t1@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Patrick Chase (patrick@sdd.hp.com) wrote: : In article <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com>, ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) writes: [...] : With EISA, MicroChannel, and PCI, the situation is infinitely : better. All three architectures fully support bus mastering (and they're : generally a whole lot faster as well). If you're buying a new system, and : you want to use both SCSI and a PAS-16, your best bet may be to either buy : an EISA box and use a DPT SCSI controller (assuming the driver has been fixed : properly), or get a PCI-based system with the NCR SCSI controller and use : the Talus driver. Either way, the SCSI controller is moved to a place from : which it can bus-master without hosing the audio board. Your overall system : performance should be better as well. That's what I thought at first, too. But then I asked here on the net for experiences with PCI and sound. I got just one reply and he told me that he had tried three different PCI/ISA boards from Intel with all supported sound cards, and that sound was worse than on 'plain' ISA boards (repeating sounds, distorted quality). Intels tech support said that this could be a timing problem with the 'ISA emulation' on the PCI bus (!?). Note: I understand that he didn't use the NCR SCSI chip but an Adaptec and a Buslogic adapter. He finally switched to an EISA system and is glad with it. Perhaps anybody else could confirm or correct this ? Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bennett@infoman.com Subject: Re: NeXT printer on a Mac? Message-ID: <1994May10.132400.23867@infoman.com> Keywords: NeXT printer Sender: root@infoman.com (Operator) Organization: Information Management Inc. References: <lwallyci-060594010846@ramp02.onramp.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 13:24:00 GMT In article <lwallyci-060594010846@ramp02.onramp.net> lwallyci@onramp.net (Leslie Connally) writes: > I'm a Mac person, and really don't know NeXT, but want to ask if it is > possible to make a NeXT/canon 11x17 color printer work on a Mac 030 or 040. > I think it is a question of system-extension-printer driver availability > and serial or parallel connection ("Power Print" is a serial to parallel > converter with drivers) I'm calling them tomorrow. > Please help if you can. > Sorry if i'm bothering yall here > (there is one available here low $ auction item (new)) > > Leslie Connally > lwallyci@onramp.net > 6 may 94 No, it is not really possible. The problem is that the NeXT printer has no brains whatever. None, nota, zip. The NeXT printer used a special communication port on the NeXT computer that send a image-bit serial (not an RS-232/422 serial) datastream to the printer. The printer simply placed dots where the computer said to put them. It has 0 bytes or RAM, no CPU and nothing quite like a "Serial" or "Parallel" port. You could build special hardware to interface to it, then write a postscript interpreter to turn the PS code into dots and provide the image as a bit-stream. It would be easier to use a real postscript printer. D*mn I miss the black hardware!!!! -- Jon Bennett Information Management Inc. 150 E. Ponce De Leon Ave. Decatur, Ga. 30030 (404)377-4840 (NeXT Object Channel Member)
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: '040->'060 ISI's S68060-1-A Date: 10 May 1994 19:05:16 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qoltc$90g@hpscit.sc.hp.com> I think this article would interest both the Macintosh and NeXT user community. Received today, from Motorola, a copy of _The_Developer's_Newsletter_ ESC Special Edition, Volume 2, Issue 2. Quoted without permission, but the entire newsletter does not contain any copyright message. There's no contact information. I'm not affiliated with Motorola nor with Interconnect Systems, Inc. in any way. This post does not contain the Hewlett-Packard Company's viewpoints. All typos are mine. Neither the Hewlett-Packard Company nor I, Ken Lui, assume any responsibility or liability for any action caused directly or indirectly by the information contained in this news article. ---BEGIN--- ISI's S68060-1-A Provides Seamless, Inexpensive Data Migration to 68060 Processors By: Luke Chang, EE Interconnect Systems, Inc. As many users of Motorola's 68040 processors contemplate transitioning their designs to the new 68060, they seek a seamless migration path that avoids painful investments in new hardware. Interconnect Systems Inc. (ISI), of Simi Valley, California, has developed a fast, inexpensive upgrade path with its S68060-1-A upgrade module. This module supports a broad range of applications and markets ranging from system upgrades in the embedded systems market, to microprocessor upgrades in the personal computer market. ISI designed the upgrade in the form of a "smart" PGA socket which contains the voltage regulator, logic conversion, and optional clock-doubling circuitry needed to accomplish the seamless migration. The 68060 is the latest superscalar 32-bit microprocessor in the 68000 Family. It has two ALU pipelines, dual on-chip cache, and an integral FPU. Initially, it will clock at 50 MHz, and requires a 3.3V power supply versus the 5V supply on the 68040. The 68060 has several features which make designing an upgrade module possible. First, the 68060, with a 223 pin (18x18 matrix) Pin Grid Array (PGA) footprint is a "super socket" version of the 179 pin (18x18 matrix) used for the 68040. Most of the signal, power, and ground pins have the same location on the 68060 as are found on the 68040. Second, both chips have the same 32-bit data bus. This means that bus size conversion through external logic and associated circuitry are not necessary. Despite the similarities between the 68060 and the 68040, there are obviously some conversion problems which require external circuitry. As noted, the 68060 runs at 3.3V versus the 68040's 5V. The upgrade module provides a solution to this problem by using a voltage regulator to convert 5V power from the existing 68040 chip attach site on the system circuit board to the 3.3V power needed by the 68060. Another problem is timing. The 68060 will be available at either 50 MHz or 66 MHz, twice the speed of relevant 68040 processors. There are two solutions to this timing problem depending on the actual system in which the upgrade module is interfaced. The first, and simpler, option is to use the MC88916 Phase Locked Loop chip found in many 68040-based systems. The design of the MC88916 makes it possible to get a clock-doubled signal from this chip and feed it to the 68060. There are, however, disadvantages to this solution. The maximum frequency obtained is limited to 66 MHz by the 88916. When faster versions of the 68060 are available, this solution will not work. In addition, the 88916 is dependent on the RESET function on the 68040. This means some external logic is required to upgrade to the 68060. An alternative solution to the timing problem is to use an MC88915 Phase Locked Loop clock chip. The 88915 can run at very high speeds, up to 133 MHz, and is not dependent on the 68040 RESET pin. The downside to this solution is high price--the 88915 is a relatively expensive chip. And, in 68040 systems which already have the 88916, the 88915 will not be utilized. The 68060 upgrade module which ISI has built, P/N S68060-1-A, is designed to work with either of the timing solutions outlined. If the 88915-based solution is employed, ISI's module is easily modified by disconnecting a trace on one of the circuit boards. Additional components are included in the module with this version. The 68060 also accesses some signals from the bus at different times than the 68040 microprocessor due to the timing of the skew clock. Some signals are triggered at the rising edge rather than the falling edge, and the 68060 does not support the bus snooping mode of the 68040. Therefore, the 68060 upgrade module has a third "sub-circuit" containing a Programmable Logic Array (PAL) chip to solve timing problems. Mechanically, the S68060-1-A upgrade module consists of two stacked PGA sockets which are fixed in place with two levels of interconnect circuitry and components nested in the sockets. The module is identical in size to the 68040 and 68060 PGA package in the horizontal (x,y) dimensions, with a stack height of approximately .300". The top of the module is a Low Insertion Force (LIF) PGA socket which accepts the 68060 processor. The bottom of the module is an array of PGA pins which match the footprint of the 68040. These pins can be soldered directly into the 68040 system board or inserted into a socket on this board. The S68060-1-A upgrade module is designed for a wide range of applications, from system characterization and test, and system upgrade in the embedded market, to microprocessors in the personal computer market. In all cases, the main purpose of the product is to make a "seamless" transition from the 68040 to the 68060. _The_Motorola_Developer's_Newsletter_ is published quarterly by the High Performance Microprocessor Division of Motorola. 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Although every attempt is made to ensure the accuracy of this publications's contents, Motorola and the authors assume no responsibility or liability for any action caused directly or indirectly by information contained in this publication. ---END--- There's a picture of this product and here's a crude text representation (I'm not a hardware guy, so excuse my descriptions): from 6 8 0 6 0 side view: ================================== (top interconnect) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||<-- pins ================================== (bottom |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| interconnect) ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||<-- pins To 6 8 0 4 0 socket on motherboard top view: ________________________________ | | A, C both have | p i n h o l e s | "227 6V" w/ | | their top | __________________ | portion white | | === ____ === | | | | |A| | | |C| | | B looks like a | | |_| | B | |_| | | DIP switch w/ | | ___|____|___ | | 4 switches | | | D | | | | | |____________| | | D is an IC | |__________________| | | | Smaller surface- | | mounted stuff | | also appear. |________________________________| -- Kenneth K.F. 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From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 10 May 1994 20:08:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qopk8INN2s7@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> <2qjjo4INN7t1@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2qnrdl$7n1@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <2qnrdl$7n1@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: |> Patrick Chase (patrick@sdd.hp.com) wrote: |> : In article <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com>, ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) writes: |> [...] |> : With EISA, MicroChannel, and PCI, the situation is infinitely |> : better. All three architectures fully support bus mastering (and they're |> : generally a whole lot faster as well). If you're buying a new system, and |> : you want to use both SCSI and a PAS-16, your best bet may be to either buy |> : an EISA box and use a DPT SCSI controller (assuming the driver has been fixed |> : properly), or get a PCI-based system with the NCR SCSI controller and use |> : the Talus driver. Either way, the SCSI controller is moved to a place from |> : which it can bus-master without hosing the audio board. Your overall system |> : performance should be better as well. |> |> That's what I thought at first, too. But then I asked here on the net for |> experiences with PCI and sound. I got just one reply and he told me that |> he had tried three different PCI/ISA boards from Intel with all supported |> sound cards, and that sound was worse than on 'plain' ISA boards |> (repeating sounds, distorted quality). Intels tech support said that this |> could be a timing problem with the 'ISA emulation' on the PCI bus (!?). |> |> Note: I understand that he didn't use the NCR SCSI chip but an Adaptec and a |> Buslogic adapter. He had an Adaptec 1542 in there? (must've been, since it's the only supported Adaptec controller). If so, then he fixed nothing, because the Adaptec bus- masters on ISA. Period. It doesn't matter whether your system also has PCI or not: if you put a bus-mastering ISA board on the same ISA bus as a PAS, you are asking for trouble. When I said "the situation is infinitely better" with PCI, EISA, and MicroChannel, I meant to state that the situation was infinitely better for peripherals which take advantage of those advanced architectures. ISA peripherals will continue to be plagued with the same problems as ever, and sound will therefore only work properly if there are no bus-mastering peripherals on ISA. Incidentally, "emulation" is a bad term to describe how PCI systems implement ISA (or EISA, NuBus, MCA, or anything else for that matter). Basically, the ISA bus controller is implemented as a device on the PCI bus. It's not emulation, and when everything is done correctly it's transparent. There reportedly were indeed some timing bugs in the ISA implementations provided by the very first PCI chipsets on the market. These have supposedly been long-since fixed. From the description you provide above, however, it sounds as if the person who mailed you got burned by the same old ISA bus-master issues as everybody else. |> He finally switched to an EISA system and is glad with it. Is he using an EISA SCSI controller (like the DPT)? In that case, his problem is fixed not because he switched to EISA, but because he got the SCSI controller off of ISA. Using a PCI SCSI controller (like the NCR) on the Intel motherboard should have had the same effect. |> |> Perhaps anybody else could confirm or correct this ? |> |> Gregor |> |> -- |> | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | |> | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | |> | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | |> | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: conway@bnk014.enet.dec.com (Mark Conway) Subject: Intel GX reseller? Message-ID: <CpLrFu.23r@ryn.mro.dec.com> Sender: news@ryn.mro.dec.com (USENET News System) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 19:57:30 GMT Hi, Can anyone recommend an Intel GX Pro reseller? Also, is there a reseller that sells black stuff? Thanks - Mark
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR PCI SCSI Controller card ?? Date: 11 May 1994 01:33:38 GMT Organization: PSGnet, Portland Oregon, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qpclj$mgm@rain.psg.com> Does anyone know where to buy a NCR PCI scsi controller card that will work with the TALUS driver? Or are they just intergrated into the DEC and DELL motherboards.. -- Steven Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com
From: jtod@access2.digex.net (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '040->'060 ISI's S68060-1-A Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 11 May 1994 02:39:06 GMT Organization: Wit's End Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qpgga$p3j@news1.digex.net> References: <2qoltc$90g@hpscit.sc.hp.com> Ken Lui (klui@corp.hp.com) wrote: [large article about ISI's 68060 chip socket for direct replacement of 68040 chips with 50 mhz 68060 deleted] Now, for the $20 questions: a)When is this chip converter available? b)Where can I get one? c)How much do they cost? d)Where can I get a 68060 50mhz and for how much? e)Who do I name my first child after at Motorola if this works? Another important question would be if my Station has the current 68040 soldered directly to the board or if it's socketed? I don't remember, and I've got about 5 different boxes and associated wiring on top of my Slab right now, and I don't feel like moving it all. If Moto has made a 50 mhz chip for my Station, I'll jump for joy. However, it all sounds too good to be true, if you ask me, becauseit *would* be too good to be true. -- John Todd -- Sales Digital Express Group - An Internet Access Provider Voice: 1-800-969-9090 FAX: 1-301-220-0477 jtodd@digex.net
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel GX reseller? Date: Wed, 11 May 94 01:02:40 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <Jo-MlYA.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <CpLrFu.23r@ryn.mro.dec.com> Our 486-66 and 486-100 Wingine -based systems are black.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: '040->'060 ISI's S68060-1-A Message-ID: <1994May11.064641.2190@rna.nl> Sender: gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Organization: G.R.O.S.S. References: <2qpgga$p3j@news1.digex.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 06:46:41 GMT John Todd writes > Ken Lui (klui@corp.hp.com) wrote: > [large article about ISI's 68060 chip socket for direct replacement of > 68040 chips with 50 mhz 68060 deleted] > > Now, for the $20 questions: Also, if I remember well, I could almost not get the 040 with heat sink past the middle part of mu cube. Now it is a bus in there. Does that mean that I can change the motherboard to any slot without running into trouble? -- gerben@rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch (Ralph Michael Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic 5428 800x600 16-Bit color? Date: 11 May 1994 09:55:19 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2qqa27$8ih@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Hi ! I want to buy a Cirrus Logic 5428 VL for Intels. - Is this card supported by NEXTSTEP? (The NS compatibility guide shows only ISA-bus) - Does this graphic card support 800x600 16-Bit Color ? - How much memory do I need? (2 MB?) - What about the speed? Acceptable? Thanks for any comments! Ralph (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jafri!ajafri (Amir Jafri) Subject: Using A NeXT as an answering machine. Message-ID: <CpMw90.Co@jafri.uucp> Sender: ajafri@jafri.uucp (Amir Jafri) Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 10:38:58 GMT Hi! I was wondering if there was a way to use my NeXT as an answering machine. What I want to do is have a pre-recorded message play back in response to an incoming call, and then record the callers message. I had read somewhere that this was possible using a Hayes phone adapter, but I want to use a standard modem. BTW, I'm using a ZyXEL 1496E. Thanks. Amir. -- *************************************************** Amir Jafri | jafri!ajafri@uunet.ca | NeXTmail OK ***************************************************
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 11 May 1994 11:23:39 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qqf7r$en2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> <2qjjo4INN7t1@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2qnrdl$7n1@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <2qopk8INN2s7@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Patrick Chase (patrick@sdd.hp.com) wrote: : In article <2qnrdl$7n1@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: : |> Patrick Chase (patrick@sdd.hp.com) wrote: : |> : In article <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com>, ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) writes: : |> [...] : |> : With EISA, MicroChannel, and PCI, the situation is infinitely : |> : better. All three architectures fully support bus mastering (and they're : |> : generally a whole lot faster as well). If you're buying a new system, and : |> : you want to use both SCSI and a PAS-16, your best bet may be to either buy : |> : an EISA box and use a DPT SCSI controller (assuming the driver has been fixed : |> : properly), or get a PCI-based system with the NCR SCSI controller and use : |> : the Talus driver. Either way, the SCSI controller is moved to a place from : |> : which it can bus-master without hosing the audio board. Your overall system : |> : performance should be better as well. : |> : |> That's what I thought at first, too. But then I asked here on the net for : |> experiences with PCI and sound. I got just one reply and he told me that : |> he had tried three different PCI/ISA boards from Intel with all supported : |> sound cards, and that sound was worse than on 'plain' ISA boards : |> (repeating sounds, distorted quality). Intels tech support said that this : |> could be a timing problem with the 'ISA emulation' on the PCI bus (!?). : |> : |> Note: I understand that he didn't use the NCR SCSI chip but an Adaptec and a : |> Buslogic adapter. : He had an Adaptec 1542 in there? (must've been, since it's the only supported : Adaptec controller). If so, then he fixed nothing, because the Adaptec bus- : masters on ISA. Period. It doesn't matter whether your system also has PCI or : not: if you put a bus-mastering ISA board on the same ISA bus as a PAS, you : are asking for trouble. When I said "the situation is infinitely better" with : PCI, EISA, and MicroChannel, I meant to state that the situation was : infinitely better for peripherals which take advantage of those advanced : architectures. ISA peripherals will continue to be plagued with the same : problems as ever, and sound will therefore only work properly if there are : no bus-mastering peripherals on ISA. Incidentally, "emulation" is a bad term That's what I would expect, too. But please explain me the following: A friend of mine had an VL/ISA board, an AHA 1542 ISA and a PAS 16. Sound made the well-known problems. So he switched to an EISA/VL mainboard (SIS chipset), stayed with the AHA 1542 and the PAS and now everything works fine! No EISA cards! I don't understand why, but it works, and according to Markus Wenzel the same thing worked with an DPT ISA controller! That's why I hoped that PCI would help also. : to describe how PCI systems implement ISA (or EISA, NuBus, MCA, or anything : else for that matter). Basically, the ISA bus controller is implemented as : a device on the PCI bus. It's not emulation, and when everything is done : correctly it's transparent. There reportedly were indeed some timing bugs : in the ISA implementations provided by the very first PCI chipsets on the : market. These have supposedly been long-since fixed. From the description : you provide above, however, it sounds as if the person who mailed you got : burned by the same old ISA bus-master issues as everybody else. see above. : |> He finally switched to an EISA system and is glad with it. : Is he using an EISA SCSI controller (like the DPT)? In that case, his problem : is fixed not because he switched to EISA, but because he got the SCSI : controller off of ISA. Using a PCI SCSI controller (like the NCR) on the : Intel motherboard should have had the same effect. That's what I hope, but I want to hear it first-hand from someone who uses this configuration! : Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P : H-P San Diego -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: briansp@css.itd.umich.edu (Brian W. Spolarich) Newsgroups: umich.unix.admin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep 3.2 and audio CDs Date: 11 May 1994 16:33:18 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services Message-ID: <2qr1ce$bul@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> This is kind of interesting. I just upgraded our NeXT Color Turbo to 3.2, and everything went peachy. Now I am having a problem playing audio CDs, using the CD Player app that comes with the developer's release. The application runs, but it complains that it can't find the CDROM drive when it starts up. Here is the boot info from /usr/adm/messages: May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: fc0 at 0x2014100 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Sony MPX-111N as fd0 at fc0 slave 0 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2014000 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: SEAGATE ST1480 Rev 5736 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Disk Label: Disk May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 Rev 2.6a as sd1 at sc0 target 4 lun 0 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: sd1: UNIT ATTENTION May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Waiting for drive to come ready May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: . May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: DISK UNFORMATTED May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Disk is Write Protected May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 May 11 12:11:50 hostname mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 so the boot disk is at SCSI ID 1, the controller at ID 7, and the CDROM at ID 4, which shouldn't be a problem. The drive plays data CD's w/o a problem. Any suggestions? Seems kind of strange. -brian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Brian W. Spolarich briansp@umich.edu UM ITD User Services (313) 747-3499 Online Consulting Systems Project http://www.us.itd.umich.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: mchrist@acpub.duke.edu (Margaret Christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 400 dpi B&W printer & NS_FIP? Date: 11 May 1994 17:02:04 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, N.C. Message-ID: <2qr32c$8e4@news.duke.edu> References: <2q1jp0$32c@rain.psg.com> <1994May2.081326.12784@seer.demon.co.uk> No phones in the new offices yet, so I can't post from our domain name yet, however: I understand from Canon Computer Systems (makers of the new NeXTstation) that they and GS Corporation (and another company near GS) are working on a board which should allow owners of the black printers to print from white hardware. Keep watch for the product. Dave Briggman
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does anyone have speed comparisons for NS benchmark apps on 486 DX/4 100, Pentium 60, Pentium 90? Date: 11 May 1994 17:49:55 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2qr5s3$kdt@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I was hoping that this had been donee, eg for TeX. Sincerely, Lones A. Smith Department of Economics, MIT E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 voice: (617) 253-0914 [fax: (617) 253-6915]
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Date: 11 May 1994 18:05:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qr6pkINN1dq@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CpCGwy.n42@world.std.com> <2qjjo4INN7t1@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2qnrdl$7n1@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <2qopk8INN2s7@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2qqf7r$en2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <2qqf7r$en2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: |> |> That's what I would expect, too. But please explain me the following: A |> friend of mine had an VL/ISA board, an AHA 1542 ISA and a PAS 16. Sound |> made the well-known problems. So he switched to an EISA/VL mainboard (SIS |> chipset), stayed with the AHA 1542 and the PAS and now everything works |> fine! No EISA cards! I don't understand why, but it works, and according |> to Markus Wenzel the same thing worked with an DPT ISA controller! This is something I have no knowledge of. I can make one wild-ass guess, but I don't think it's correct. EISA defines an arbitration protocol for EISA bus-masters. Maybe the SIS EISA implementation also has the ability to detect and accomodate an active ISA bus master. Anybody - is this at all reasonable? I there something in the EISA specification itself that defines a protocol for dealing with ISA bus-masters? EISA is on the whole a very stable and well-defined bus architecture (unlike ISA), provided you have EISA cards to take advantage of it... |> That's why I hoped that PCI would help also. In theory, the presence or absence of PCI does not affect the behavior of any (E)ISA subsystem. In other words, if a particular combination of ISA cards is going to bomb, it'll do it either way. In practice, none of my friends with Gateways (Pentium-PCI) have tried to use bus-mastering ISA SCSI boards sound cards under NS/I. They're all waiting for NCR boards and drivers... |> |> |> -- |> | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | |> | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | |> | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | |> | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
From: procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Hardware: Station or Cube ? Date: 11 May 94 14:14:35 Organization: UPENN Computer Graphics Research Laboratory Distribution: comp Message-ID: <PROCOPIO.94May11141435@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> What are the advantages/disadvantages/technical differences between an '040 NeXT Cube and an '040 NeXT Station? Were there ever color Cubes? (Other than NeXTDimension boards) Are there any differences between a plain station and a TurboStation other than the obvious speed difference? (It's 25MHz and 33MHz right?) Joe Procopio
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.admin Subject: DEC DSP5350 drive w/black hw Date: 11 May 1994 20:25:18 GMT Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech Message-ID: <2qreve$fid@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I have a Dec hard drive DSP5350 with about 3.5Gb capacity. So far, my Nextstation Turbo does not recognize the drive when it is placed on the SCSI bus. I've tried a couple of different SCSI ID's and am sure there is no conflict. On boot up, it is simply not reported. Will this drive work with Next hardware? Anyone using it out there? -- James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic Journals Archives: http://borg.lib.vt.edu:80/ gopher://borg.lib.vt.edu:70/
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '040->'060 ISI's S68060-1-A Date: 11 May 1994 20:53:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qrgkk$am8@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <2qoltc$90g@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <2qpgga$p3j@news1.digex.net> Well, in addition to the hardware component, some software tweaks have to be made, too. There are '040 instructions that the '060 don't support, so traps have to be written although Motorola has the software available free. Ken -- Kenneth K.F. Lui, klui@corp.hp.com 3000 Hanover Street M/S 20BJ Corporate Financial Systems Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA Core Application Technologies 1.415.857.3230 Fax 1.415.852.8026
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] Think Twice Before Buying the Media Vision Sound Card Date: 11 May 1994 21:02:36 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qrh5c$ol2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> It appears Media Vision is under investigation by the FBI and SEC for illegal business (and/or) trade practices. Many members of it's board of directors have resigned in the past few days, and Media Vision has closed some of it's offices this week. All of this according to published reports on clarinet, and other computer news agencies. Therefore, it may be wise to think twice before buying that Media Vision card for your Intel NEXTSTEP system.... Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Subject: address for dimming monitors Message-ID: <1994May11.173441.16528@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 17:34:41 GMT A few weeks ago, I described how I had turned up the brightness of my NeXT MegaPixel monitor, and that I had found a supplier of replacement tubes. Several people have asked me for details of the latter. I've been away during the past couple of weeks. Here are the answers to your questions (I hope!). I took of the back of my NeXT greyscale monitor and determined the model number of the cathode ray tube. It is a TOSHIBA E8168B4-TCO2HT (but please verify the model number on your own crt). The company which claims to carry replacement tubes for this model is RICHARDSON ELECTRONICS 6185 Tomken Road, Units 3-5 Mississauga, Ontario L5T1X6 Tel:1-800-363-1323 You could talk to Claude Monast there. This is their Canadian headquarters (it's near Toronto). However, they seem to be an American company with main office in Chicago. They may have a European office as well. They say that if one calls the number 1-800-348-5580, one will be given the closest Richardson office. At present, I have one of these tubes on order. The Canadian price is $195.45. Since I managed to improve the brightness to normal level by adjusting the white level potentiometer at the back of the monitor, I probably won't install the new tube until the present one gets dim. So if any of you buys one of these Richardson tubes, I would appreciate hearing details about installation and how it works. Since I haven't received the tube myself yet, there are no guarantees that all this will work. Best of luck, Bill Anderson McGill University
From: strickla@girtab.usc.edu (Bryan Strickland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStep FIP screws up my system clock. Date: 11 May 1994 14:44:49 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: strickla@girtab.usc.edu Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2qrjkh$hvu@girtab.usc.edu> Hello, sorry if this has been asked before, but... I have a an Intel system with OS/2,DOS and NextStep on it. All is well except for the fact that when NeXTStep boots, it reports that it has found some proposterous time in the system clock, and it goes and sets it to some strange time. From OS/2 and DOS, the clock is read fine. Clearly NextStep thinks differently. Does anyone know what I need to do to get NextStep to recognise the CMOS clock time correctly. thanks. Bryan
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [intel] Info on NEXTSTEP Optimization for Pentium Date: 11 May 1994 21:54:03 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qrk5r$plq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I've found out a little more about exactly how NEXTSTEP is optimized for Pentium. Here's what I know. If you know different, please post: The NEXTSTEP Compiler includes special modifications to take advantage of the SuperScaler nature of the Pentium. In other words, the compiler generates code to allow NS to take advantage of the multiple execution units in the Pentium. NeXT has worked closely with Intel to strike a balance between 486 and Pentium optimization, ie, if several different instructions would work on both chips to perform a specific task, the instruction that works ok on the 486, but screams on the Pentium was chosen. Because NS/FIP must still run on 486's, NeXT doesn't currently implement any Pentium only instructions. Eric
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Which soundcard? Message-ID: <1994May11.141844.18843@cc.usu.edu> Date: 11 May 94 14:18:44 MDT References: <CpAzow.E6s@world.std.com> <2q9o13$1vf@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2qqf7r$en2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Distribution: world Organization: Utah State University > : Is he using an EISA SCSI controller (like the DPT)? In that case, his problem > : is fixed not because he switched to EISA, but because he got the SCSI > : controller off of ISA. Using a PCI SCSI controller (like the NCR) on the > : Intel motherboard should have had the same effect. > > That's what I hope, but I want to hear it first-hand from someone who > uses this configuration! If it is any help. I have an NEC Image P60 with SCSI-2 on the motherboard (Adaptec 6360 LocalBus), and an ISA ProAudio Spectrum 16, and experience the same effects. Every once in a while, sounds will repeat, not play, or only partially play. It does work better than the ones I have in my Epson NXs with the Adaptec 1542s though. ====================================================================== John Zollinger (NextMail Preferred) Programmer/Analyst ati06!obsidian!johnz@attati.attmail.com [Moore BCS - Logan, Utah] "Life is too important to take seriously." ======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Using A NeXT as an answering machine. Message-ID: <CpnIyK.1p7@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <CpMw90.Co@jafri.uucp> Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 18:49:31 GMT In article <CpMw90.Co@jafri.uucp> jafri!ajafri (Amir Jafri) writes: > Hi! > I was wondering if there was a way to use my NeXT as an answering > machine. What I want to do is have a pre-recorded message play back in > response to an incoming call, and then record the callers message. I had > read somewhere that this was possible using a Hayes phone adapter, but I > want to use a standard modem. BTW, I'm using a ZyXEL 1496E. It is possible using the program am.1.15, written by jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein). am.1.15 can act as an answering machine, receive faxes or let the caller log in via modem. Outgoing calls on the same modem work as well. Look at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de /pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs/am.1.15.s.tar.gz (I cannot verify the path at the moment, but it should be close to reality) I'm currently working on bug fixes and improvements of the sound quality for am.1.15. A new release will be there soon, so don't be too disappointed when you have problems using it. Have fun! -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hornkvjm@newton.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) Subject: [Intel] Third party HD drivers Message-ID: <HORNKVJM.94May11202325@newton.whitman.edu> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Whitman College Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 03:23:24 GMT Hi! From what I have heard, you can install NeXTStep from an unsupported SCSI-interface if you have the necessary driver on a floppy in the drive during boot. Will it be necessary to have the floppy every time I reboot, or just at the first install? I would like to get a motherboard with integrated SCSI, and it seems like the interface would only be supported by the new driver from Talus. Thanks! :>John
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Getting a CD-ROM to work Date: 12 May 1994 03:28:28 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <2qs7os$g8h@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Greetings, all. I'm trying to get a CD-ROM drive working with my Cube. I'm running NextStep 2.1 on an 030 Cube. The CD-ROM is an Apple external drive. My NeXT recognizes the CD as whatever SCSI ID I give it, so that's not the trouble. The problem I get is that when I try to boot up with the CD on the SCSI bus, I get all sorts of SCSI conflict errors. The HD is SCSI ID 0. From what I can tell, the Cube itself is SCSI ID 7. The CD-ROM plugs into the Cube's 25-pin D-shell connector and it doesn't matter whether it's terminated or not--I always get the same results. It also does't matter whether I boot from HD or Optical. Same results. Anybody got any tips? I'd really LOVE to upgrade to NextStep 3.x, but I can't do it if I can't get this blasted CD-ROM drive working! Thanks. Daniel -- Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
From: kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good ISA Video card ?? Date: 12 May 1994 00:45:39 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 684 5969 Message-ID: <2qsfq3$dkp@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> References: <2qdeii$pcs@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> <2qeh2l$hot@news.delphi.com> Keywords: Tseng, S3, isa In article <2qeh2l$hot@news.delphi.com>, TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM <trestrai@news.delphi.com> wrote: >jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes: > >>Does anybody out there know what would be a good ISA video card that would >>do 1024x768 in 2 bit color with the lowest amount of hassle? I looked through >>the Hardware guide but they don't mention any venders in particular. > >I think you'll be limited by the ISA bus to 2 bit greyscale no matter >what video card you choose. > >Jeff >trestrail@delphi.com > I too have an ISA machine, and would prefer to not have to buy a new motherboard to get color. Of course, I would like to get reasonable performance. The ATI Ultrapro comes in an ISA version, with 2MB of RAM on board. Seems to me that if I bought this card (for around $270 at Comp USA) that I ought to get color, albeit perhaps a little slow due to the ISA bus. There is a driver for ATI Ultra Pro that comes with 3.2. Would this card give me color? Naturally, I'd prefer 1024x768 resolution, although 8 bit color would suit me fine. Or does NextStep/FIP just refuse to do more than greyscale on an ISA machine? -- Randy Kunkee Houston, TX 713-870-1334 kunkee@sugar.neosoft.com
From: young@cse.ucsc.edu (Sing Z.S. Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: DDC1, DDC2 ? Date: 12 May 1994 07:13:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qskvm$c0l@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Does anybody know what DDC1 and DDC2 stand for ? The context is something about telecommunication. If this is not the proper place to ask this question, any pointerr to where the answer might be found is highly appreciated. Thanks ! Sing Young
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Does NS take advantage of pentium? Message-ID: <CpoGHC.C61@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: intel, pentium Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2qla00$81c@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 06:53:36 GMT In article <2qla00$81c@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes: >I am looking to get a new NS machine and was wondering if NS takes adavtage >of any pentium features? More importantly, will I see the 2 or 3 times speed >improvement intel claims (I hopinging to go from a 486/50 to a pentium 90 or 100)? > >Or, since I'm student, should I take advantage of HP great educational discounts >and by a HP Gecko? In my opinion you should stay as far away as possible from anything that dares call itself a workstation. As a student you would be far better of with an Intel based computer and NS/Intel. Workstations are for people with deep pockets and or p.o. access from grants. Everything you get for them costs, and costs, and, ... -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Station or Cube ? Date: 12 May 1994 09:45:26 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qstrm$n8m@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <PROCOPIO.94May11141435@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> In article <PROCOPIO.94May11141435@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) writes: > What are the advantages/disadvantages/technical differences between an > '040 NeXT Cube and an '040 NeXT Station? The cube eats up more space, about one cubic foot, in addition to the space the monitor takes. The NextStation is thin and sits under the monitor. The cube has a magneto optical drive (older ones 256 MB, newer ones 512 MB) which is only compatible with NeXT cubes. Most cubes do not have floppy drives. The NextStation has a floppy drive but no magneto optical drive. The cube has 16 SIMM slots and can hold up to 64 MB memory (16 x 4 MB). The NextStation has 8 SIMM slots and can hold up to 32 MB memory. The cube has room for several boards (additional motherboards or NextDimension board) and two full height 5.25 inch devices. One of these full height devices is usually the magneto optical drive. No additional boards can be added to a NextStation, and it has room for only one half height device in addition to the floppy drive. It is possible to stick in an additional third height disk drive (I have done so) in addition to the floppy drive and half height 3.5 inch drive. However, this requires some extra work. I personally prefer a slab, since it takes up less space and has a floppy drive. > Were there ever color Cubes? (Other than NeXTDimension boards) To my knowledge, there were no color cubes per se. The way to get color from a cube is by using a NextDimension board. > Are there any differences between a plain station and a TurboStation > other than the obvious speed difference? (It's 25MHz and 33MHz right?) Yes. There is more than just the 25 MHz vs 33 MHz difference. The very last 25 MHz NextStations and all of the NextStation turbos have a newer motherboard. There is a clock chip which allows the machine to power itself on and off at specified times. This newer motherboard can also accept higher capacity 8 MB or 16 MB SIMMS, allowing more total memory to be put in the 8 SIMM slots. The newer turbos also have what's called an ADB keyboard, which is slightly different than the standard NeXT keyboard. Furthermore, although all of the colorstations (turbo and non turbo) take 72 pin SIMMS, only the turbo monostations (and maybe the newer nonturbos - I'm not sure) take 72 pin SIMMS. The nonturbo mono NextStations take 30 pin SIMMS. I personally don't think it's worth paying the extra premium for a used turbo, as long as you're happy with 32 MB RAM. The difference between 25 MHz and 33 MHz is not huge, and turbos sell for significantly more than nonturbos. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: What tape drive do I need? Message-ID: <Cpnnvq.A8v@mrk.com> Sender: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Organization: Investor's Advantage Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 20:35:49 GMT Hi all, I was wondering if someone could tell me what tape drive I need to get to be able to read 8 mm tapes under NS. We've had to get our data recently on tapes because of the quantity and the vender is using 8 mm tapes to send it. Anyone know? I'd appriciate it if you could email me the answer. Thanx -- jerald dawson * Systems Manager/Head Programmer * Investor's Advantage NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com | phone - (708) 487-3221 | Don't blame me. I voted for Bush.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: NeXT Printer Gear: Ordering Info Message-ID: <Cpox1I.B30@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 12:51:17 GMT Rmemember the problem of the paper not coming all the way through the black printers?? The solution is to replace the 14 tooth gear in the fuser assemply with a new one. (You need a very long screwdriver to take off 4 screws holding the fuser assy. down after you take the top and side covers off). Thanks to all the kind people that responded I finally ordered nad replaced the gears on all of the printers with the problem. As a small token of appreciation I post the detailed info to order them for future reference and perhaps for inclusion in the FAQs..... 1. Provider: CHENESKO PRODUCTS INC, 2221 FIFTH AVE., SUITE 4, RONKONKOMA, NY 11776 Tel. No. 516-467-3205 2. Gear: 14 tooth, Model Nu. RSI-0132 Keep in mind that this tooth has double the width of the original one and when you replace it you won't be able to put back the safty washer that was there for the old one. Thi does NOT creatte any problem though because the assemply cover plays the role of restricting the gear to not come out. --john m NRL-NUG leader ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: NeXT Printer Gear: Ordering Info Message-ID: <Cpox2L.B5A@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 12:51:56 GMT Remember the problem of the paper not coming all the way through the black printers?? The solution is to replace the 14 tooth gear in the fuser assemply with a new one. (You need a very long screwdriver to take off 4 screws holding the fuser assy. down after you take the top and side covers off). Thanks to all the kind people that responded I finally ordered nad replaced the gears on all of the printers with the problem. As a small token of appreciation I post the detailed info to order them for future reference and perhaps for inclusion in the FAQs..... 1. Provider: CHENESKO PRODUCTS INC, 2221 FIFTH AVE., SUITE 4, RONKONKOMA, NY 11776 Tel. No. 516-467-3205 2. Gear: 14 tooth, Model Nu. RSI-0132 Keep in mind that this tooth has double the width of the original one and when you replace it you won't be able to put back the safty washer that was there for the old one. Thi does NOT creatte any problem though because the assemply cover plays the role of restricting the gear to not come out. --john m NRL-NUG leader ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: NeXT Printer Gear: Ordering Info Message-ID: <Cpox3q.B62@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 12:52:38 GMT B Remember the problem of the paper not coming all the way through the black printers?? The solution is to replace the 14 tooth gear in the fuser assemply with a new one. (You need a very long screwdriver to take off 4 screws holding the fuser assy. down after you take the top and side covers off). Thanks to all the kind people that responded I finally ordered nad replaced the gears on all of the printers with the problem. As a small token of appreciation I post the detailed info to order them for future reference and perhaps for inclusion in the FAQs..... 1. Provider: CHENESKO PRODUCTS INC, 2221 FIFTH AVE., SUITE 4, RONKONKOMA, NY 11776 Tel. No. 516-467-3205 2. Gear: 14 tooth, Model Nu. RSI-0132 Keep in mind that this tooth has double the width of the original one and when you replace it you won't be able to put back the safty washer that was there for the old one. Thi does NOT creatte any problem though because the assemply cover plays the role of restricting the gear to not come out. --john m NRL-NUG leader ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Subject: NeXT printers gear: Ordering Info Message-ID: <Cpp3ML.FBz@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 15:13:32 GMT Remember the problem of the paper not coming all the way through the black printers?? The solution is to replace the 14 tooth gear in the fuser assemply with a new one. (You need a very long screwdriver to take off 4 screws holding the fuser assy. down after you take the top and side covers off). Thanks to all the kind people that responded I finally ordered nad replaced the gears on all of the printers with the problem. As a small token of appreciation I post the detailed info to order them for future reference and perhaps for inclusion in the FAQs..... 1. Provider: CHENESKO PRODUCTS INC, 2221 FIFTH AVE., SUITE 4, RONKONKOMA, NY 11776 Tel. No. 516-467-3205 2. Gear: 14 tooth, Model Nu. RSI-0132 Keep in mind that this tooth has double the width of the original one and when you replace it you won't be able to put back the safty washer that was there for the old one. Thi does NOT creatte any problem though because the assemply cover plays the role of restricting the gear to not come out. --john m NRL-NUG leader ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2165 or -2189 | | Research Scientist | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Naval Research Laboratory | e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil | | Code 6380 | michopoulos@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil | | 4555 Overlook Avenue, S.W.| michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil | | Washington DC 20375-5000 | send NeXTmail to prologos.nrl.navy.mil | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | A glimpse of a dream: Let's build rational amplifiers to move facts | | swiftly and massively so instead of crafstmen we become artists of | | research and discovery in both the physical and the conceptual worlds.| | Dreams are facts in the conceptual world anyway. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westner@picasso (Dominik Westner) Subject: Where to buy a DEC 5200S 2GB hard disc Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <CppnzM.D4v@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 22:33:21 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Hi Netters, may somebody point me to a source where I can buy a DEC 5200S hard disc. I need to be able to buy it with master card, but just ship it within the USA. Thanks for your help -- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ___________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: westner@guug.de [NeXTMail welcome] UNI: westner@informatik.uni-muenchen.de [NeXTMail welcome]
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Info on NEXTSTEP Optimization for Pentium Date: 12 May 1994 19:22:57 GMT Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory Message-ID: <2qtvmh$gv@gamera.umd.edu> References: <2qrk5r$plq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes: >I've found out a little more about exactly how NEXTSTEP is optimized for >Pentium. Here's what I know. If you know different, please post: >The NEXTSTEP Compiler includes special modifications to take advantage of the >SuperScaler nature of the Pentium. In other words, the compiler generates >code to allow NS to take advantage of the multiple execution units in the >Pentium. NeXT has worked closely with Intel to strike a balance between >486 and Pentium optimization, ie, if several different instructions would work >on both chips to perform a specific task, the instruction that works ok on >the 486, but screams on the Pentium was chosen. Because NS/FIP must still run >on 486's, NeXT doesn't currently implement any Pentium only instructions. What version of NeXTstep/Intel are we talking about here? Was this done in v3.2 or are we talking about a future release (v3.3)? --Mike -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Mike F. Santangelo + . Mosaic is the 1990s equivalent Dept. Head-Computer & Network Systems + + .. of forcing friends to sit through UMCEES / CBL (Solomons Island) + + . . slides of your trip to Florida
From: mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Date: 12 May 1994 20:37:56 GMT Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA Message-ID: <2qu434$ehb@cosmos.nectech.com> References: <1994May6.145018.549@imag.fr> In article <1994May6.145018.549@imag.fr> vermeer@imag.imag.fr (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) writes: > Hi, > > What are the best graphic cards suited for 16bit color > in 1024x768 with NextStep??? Does anybody has tried 2Mb > cheap VLB cards, like Cirrus or ET4000 w32 ? > Are there any drivers for 8-bits color modes ?? > The miro 16si VLB/PCI video card for NS 3.2 is great, very low cost, faster than Diamond Viper. Cost $250-295 US dollars. Supports up to 1152x864 at 71Hz non-interlaced in 16 bit color. Supports 1280x1024 at 61Hz in 8 bit gray scale. NXFActor 2.0 of 1.055 at 1024x768 16bit color 75Hz non-interlaced.
From: mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS on a i486/100Mhz? Date: 12 May 1994 20:41:05 GMT Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2qu491$ehl@cosmos.nectech.com> References: <2qf39u$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <2qf39u$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: > Steve Krans - CTG (kransst@ac.com) wrote: > > : I have a friend who's buying some new hardware for running NS486, and was > : look at the new 100Mhz i486. Does anyone have experience running NS on this > : chip and where there any problems? What brand of hardware/motherboard? use a NEC Image 4/100es PC with NS 3.2. It has the miro 16si VESA video card and works great. Thanks, Mike
From: procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multi-board NeXT Cube? Date: 12 May 94 17:20:29 Organization: UPENN Computer Graphics Research Laboratory Distribution: comp Message-ID: <PROCOPIO.94May12172029@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> Is it possible to run TWO '040 NeXT boards in one Cube enclosure? (Both connected to ethernet via their own ports... Both with their own SCSI boot disks... One without monitor/keyboard - maybe ascii term on serial port - for file server use only...) Joe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Re: [intel] Info on NEXTSTEP Optimization for Pentium Message-ID: <schwettCppK33.20A@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <2qrk5r$plq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 21:09:02 GMT "The NEXTSTEP Compiler includes special modifications..." "...strike a balance between 486 and Pentium optimization..." Hmm... For those of use who use NeXTStep/i as an end user, not as a development, environment, does this imply that the OS *itself* (as in the DPS and so on) enjoys this same optimization? I just got a P5-90 system, but need to wait for drivers for ATi's new Graphics Pro Turbo before I can play NeXTStep again. How dramatic will the speed improvement be over my old 486/66? Any real world experience out there? Mark Schwettmann
From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Cub'X Windows & Miro video card Date: 12 May 1994 22:22:13 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2qua6l$jsa@Times.Stanford.EDU> FYI, looks like Cub'X doesn't work well with the Miro card, but will soon. I recieved the following from someone at Intuitive Systems: -Karl ------ To: Karl Pfleger <kpfleger@HPP.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: trouble running Cub'XWindows demo 4.39 Dear Sir, Thanks for your interest in Cub'X-Window. We're sorry there are problems with Cub'X-Window running on configurations with a Miro video board. This is something we're working on right now, an the patch will be ready before the end of next week. [stuff deleted] Intuitive Systems, Inc. P.O. Box 60849 Palo Alto, CA 94306 USA
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS on a i486/100Mhz? Date: Thu, 12 May 94 22:15:40 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <Rq9OtmU.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2qf39u$eth@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2qu491$ehl@cosmos.nectech.com> Try the eCesys 4100 series with Wingine and VL-Bus SCSI!
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Info on NEXTSTEP Optimization for Pentium Date: 13 May 1994 06:19:06 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2qv64q$5ki@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2qrk5r$plq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <2qtvmh$gv@gamera.umd.edu> In article <2qtvmh$gv@gamera.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes: >zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes: [Pentium optimization info under NEXTSTEP deleted] >What version of NeXTstep/Intel are we talking about here? Was this done >in v3.2 or are we talking about a future release (v3.3)? The information I posted regarding the optimization of NEXTSTEP for use with Pentium was referring to the current 3.2 release. Eric
From: adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu (Alok K. Dhir) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Drivers for NCR PCI SCI? Date: 13 May 1994 14:59:07 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2r04jr$oth@umd5.umd.edu> Are there drivers (in beta or otherewise) out there for use with the NCR PCI SCSI used on some of the newer Pentium PCI motherboards (Dell Omniplex, DEC XLSRV566)? I believe the actual NCR chipset is the NCR53C810... Thanks -- -------------------------------------___--------------------------------- | Al Dhir, Programmer Analyst /___\ UMCP Ag-Engineering Dept | | Internet: adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu (o o) (301) 405-1197 | ---------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-----------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: ereidell@media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell) Subject: EXCHANGE: Your NeXT ADB keyboard for my Original NeXT (UNIX) kbd!!? Message-ID: <1994May13.152612.16274@news.media.mit.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 15:26:12 GMT Greetings. I have an ORIGINAL NeXT non-ADB keyboard, with the wide RETURN key and the [|,\] key immediately above it. in _brand new and unused condition_ (feel free to ask me how I got it) which I would love to exchange with someone out there for the NeXT-designed Apple Desktop Bus keyboard and mouse. I suppose it would mean we'd have to exchange mice as well... my rectangular two-button for your ADB, "new-age" shaped mouse... If anyone is interested in this swap, please... send me email! -- evan reidell (ereidell@media.mit.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: Station or Cube ? Message-ID: <JMPOB9CK@rkt.in-berlin.de> Sender: root@rkt.in-berlin.de (Operator) Organization: Home in Berlin References: <PROCOPIO.94May11141435@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> <2qstrm$n8m@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 12:54:35 GMT Todd Takken (takken@raven.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : Yes. There is more than just the 25 MHz vs 33 MHz difference. The very : last 25 MHz NextStations and all of the NextStation turbos have a newer : motherboard. There is a clock chip which allows the machine to power : itself on and off at specified times. This newer motherboard can also : accept higher capacity 8 MB or 16 MB SIMMS, allowing more total memory to : be put in the 8 SIMM slots. The newer turbos also have what's called an : ADB keyboard, which is slightly different than the standard NeXT keyboard. Also the newer (very last) non-turbos have ADB Keyboards (i use it). : Furthermore, although all of the colorstations (turbo and non turbo) take : 72 pin SIMMS, only the turbo monostations (and maybe the newer nonturbos - : I'm not sure) take 72 pin SIMMS. The nonturbo mono NextStations take 30 : pin SIMMS. The newer non-turbo Monos also take 72 pin SIMMs. And they can access the memory with 70ns, not only 100ns as the older one's. Bye Rene -- ____________________________________________________________________ Rene Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de> NeXTMail accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jdpierc@netcom.com (Jerry D. Pierce) Subject: Serial Port problems w/TipTop? Message-ID: <jdpiercCpr39A.ME0@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 17:00:45 GMT I have an Orchid 486VLB system which I am trying to get up and running NeXTstep 3.2. I have an Adaptec 1542B controller, and the ATI Ultra Graphic Pro video card. Most everything works fine, except that TipTop refuses to open my 2nd serial port, saying it couldn't initialize the modem. (The modem is a Supra 14.4 faxmodem) I can tip to the port and have everything dial just fine. (tip phone-number) I had this machine running Interactive UNIX for the last couple of years and both serial ports were working perfectly at speeds > 9600. (The serial card has the high-speed uarts) The first serial port is in use by my mouse, so using it is not much of an option... Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Jerry D. Pierce jdpierc@netcom.com
From: Stephen Gibson <gibsonst@sonoma.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for NCR PCI SCI? Date: 13 May 1994 18:17:44 GMT Organization: Sonoma State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2r0g88$bpg@nic-nac.CSU.net> References: <2r04jr$oth@umd5.umd.edu> In article <2r04jr$oth@umd5.umd.edu> Alok K. Dhir, adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu writes: >Are there drivers (in beta or otherewise) out there for use with the NCR >PCI SCSI used on some of the newer Pentium PCI motherboards (Dell >Omniplex, DEC XLSRV566)? I believe the actual NCR chipset is the >NCR53C810... > >Thanks > >-- > -------------------------------------___--------------------------------- > | Al Dhir, Programmer Analyst /___\ UMCP Ag-Engineering Dept | > | Internet: adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu (o o) (301) 405-1197 | > ---------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo----------------------------- Try Talus Corporation. Here's some info on them... Subject: PRESS RELEASE: NCR 53C810 SCSI device driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2 For more information contact: Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation 10602 Chapel Hill Drive Houston, Texas 77099 EMAIL: info@talus.com TEL: (713) 561-0700 FAX: (713) 561-5428 Houston, TX, April 22, 1994 - Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation announces the availability of the NCR 53C810 SCSI driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2. The NCR 53C810 has been designed to connect to the emerging industry standard PCI Bus achitecture. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Supported Computer Systems ALR Evolution V DEC XL Dell Omniplex --------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact your nearest NEXTSTEP Reseller for pricing and availability. Talus has been providing custom NEXTSTEP based application development expertise since 1990. --------------------------------------------- Stephen Gibson, Office Automation Specialist Sonoma State University eMAIL: gibsonst@sonoma.edu Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu GibsonST@aol.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: streib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Allan M. Streib) Subject: What CD-ROM drive for black station? Message-ID: <Cpr6Hv.HI6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 18:10:41 GMT I need to buy a CD ROM drive so I can install NS 3.2 on my non-turbo mono slab. I'm currently running NS 2.1. I hesitate to buy a used NeXT drive because I'm sure the technology has advanced since these were manufactured. (If this is not a legitimate concern please correct me.) Whatever I get needs to be usable under 2.1 and 3.2 versions. If anyone has such a drive he'd like to sell, or can recommend a drive that he's found to work, I'd appreciate it. Please email responses. -Allan
From: Stephen Gibson <gibsonst@sonoma.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DELL OmniPlex and NEXTSTEP (LONG) Date: 13 May 1994 18:45:22 GMT Organization: Sonoma State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2r0hs2$bpg@nic-nac.CSU.net> Here is some info regarding DELL OmniPlex compatibility with NEXTSTEP. I had spoken to a sales rep about an OmniPlex 590. He was pretty sure about compatibility with NEXTSTEP, but referred me to Tom Hartsell (tom@jenny.us.dell.com). Tom graciously replied and answered just about every question I had in mind, including benchmarks. With his permission, I am posting his reply to me. I apologize for the length of the post, but think that there is enough information for an individual to determine whether or not DELL can provide a "NEXTSTEP solution". Stephen G. -------- Beginning Included Message -------- The Omniplex 90 is NeXTstep compatible and has been tested using the on-board ATI 68800 with 2MB VRAM and also the onboard NCR810 PCI SCSI conteroller. Both drivers are available from Talus Corporation in Houstom and have been developed on our systems. As part of integration, where we install the various packages (ie. User, Developer, apps etc) for you, we can also procure and install the drivers. If we install the software, we will also include MetroTools software as part of the NeXTstep solution. NeXT does not recognize the 5 1/4 floppy on the combo floppy but if you want it for another OS, it is available. We have loaded NeXT on dual partition systems with no problem. The 3 1/2 obviously is set up in BIOS as the primary floppy. I will include the benchmark information on our tested NeXTstep systems for your review. I've been collecting information as they have become available. If I can be of assistance. Tom Hartsell NeXTstep Program Manager tom@jenny.us.dell.com We ran our own independent benchmark on the first Omniplex and Optiplex that we had a chance just to see what raw data we could acquire on the relative performance of new systems to previous tests on Dell DGX. We were all interested in how it would compare and perform. All are viable and tested NeXTstep solutions on Dell PC's. RAW DATA as follows: Dell Omniplex Pentium 66 MHz ---------------------------- Resolution 1120 x 832 onboard ATI 68800 PCI graphics 2MB VRAM & SST RAMDAC 700MB Quantum NW Benchmarks are the NeXTworld Benchmarks Drystones 94637 MIPS 60.086983 Memory Speed NS 25/t 2.185633 Graphics V/V 25.008 D/V 9.44 Ethernet MB/sec 378.28539 Disk MB/Sec 1024.6206 User NS 25/t 29.278252 Developer 59.787876 Power Bench Benchmarks Logo 252.31 Drystone 455.55 Color Ramps 251.83 FPoint 301.08 Draw Poly 184.05 Integer 309.59 Draw Lines 175.01 Trig 1260.39 Text Manipulation 153.36 Image Scaling 299.41 Seeking 314.40 Image Decomp 214.02 Writing 70.21 Image Composite 139.99 Seq Reads 357.20 Random Reads 276.22 50 Threats 89.59 100 Threats Must be turned off(Note 1) Total 303 Tensors (Compare Dell DGX at 157 Tensors) Note 1- When you run the Power Bench Benchmarks, be sure to turn off the 100 Threats or it will hang. I called Tensor on this and it seems that the benchmark was originally written for NeXTstep 3.1 and the 100 threats benchmark routine does not correctly function on NeXTstep 3.2. Dell Omniplex Pentium 90 MHz ---------------------------- Resolution 1120 x 832 onboard ATI 68800 PCI graphics 2MB VRAM & AT&T RAMDAC onboard NCR 810 Fast SCSI Controller with 500MB Seagate NW Benchmarks are the NeXTworld Benchmarks Omniples Pentium 90MHz ----------------------------------------------------------------- Drystones 110294 MIPS 70.027939 Memory Speed NS 25/t 2.061078 Graphics V/V 26.08 D/V 10.192 Ethernet MB/sec 378.28539 Disk MB/Sec 2495.8437 User NS 25/t 30.458813 Developer 83.05444 NX Bench Benchmarks Omniples Pentium 90MHz ------------------------------------------ Resolution 1120 x 832 x 16 Drystones 130434 Vax Mips 82.815239 NX Factor 2.0 1.28394 line 0.99724 arc/bezier 0.97444 fill 0.76112 transform 2.73006 composite 0.76751 userpath 2.71903 text 0.83810 window 0.48398 Power Bench Benchmarks Omniples Pentium 90MHz --------------------------------------------- Logo 273.09 Drystone 599.10 Color Ramps 238.39 FPoint 406.45 Draw Poly 161.38 Integer 416.74 Draw Lines 167.21 Trig 1698.25 Text Manipulation 164.81 Image Scaling 313.97 Seeking 416.62 Image Decomp 46.80 Writing 76.35 Image Composite 124.17 Seq Reads 334.41 Random Reads 274.02 50 Threats 88.54 100 Threats Must be turned off(Note 1) 341 Tensors (Compare Dell DGX at 157 Tensors) The following are the Benchmarks on Dell Optiplex 466 L/V 1024 x 768 x 16 #9 3MB VL Graphics NW Benchmarks are the NeXTworld Benchmarks Optiplex 466 L/V ------------------------------------------- Drystones 60000 MIPS 38.095238 Memory Speed NS 25/t 1.848177 Graphics V/V 17.328 D/V 12.192 Ethernet MB/sec 126.74883 Disk MB/Sec 0 (ide) User NS 25/t 41.518612 Developer 10.009444 NX Bench Benchmarks Optiplex 466/LV ----------------------------------- Resolution 1024 x 768 x 16 #9 VL Drystones 63025 Vax Mips 40.015873 NX Factor 2.0 0.868692 line 0.75831 arc/bezier 0.72121 fill 0.55432 transform 1.65907 composite 0.63781 userpath 1.73115 text 0.53581 window 0.35182 Power Bench Benchmarks Optiplex 466/LV -------------------------------------- Logo 156.02 Drystone 259.64 Color Ramps 162.49 FPoint 148.91 Draw Poly 133.41 Integer 241.79 Draw Lines 129.22 Trig 587.86 Text Manipulation 116.23 Image Scaling 177.48 Seeking 163.17 Image Decomp 92.75 Writing 97.12 Image Composite 127.41 Seq Reads 247.36 Random Reads 177.16 50 Threats 93.57 100 Threats Must be turned off(Note 1) 183 Tensors (Compare Dell DGX at 157 Tensors) (Compare HP Vectra 466 at 180 Tensors) Recommendations: --------------- For a Pentium Solution, I would configure an Omniplex 90 with: 2MB VRAM to run NeXTstep 16MB minimum with 32MB recommended 500MB minimum with 1GB recommend (You'll need at least 700 if you add NeXTstep Developer anyway) NEC 3X CD ROM Intel Ethernet Express (recommended as best by NeXT) Pro Audio Spectrum (Only recommended by NeXT) 17 " Ultrascan Monitor Onboard NCR 810 PCI/SCSI Controller Drivers and ATI PCI Graphics drivers are available from Talus Corporation Resellers. For a 486 Solution, I sould configure an Optiplex 466 MXV with: #9 3MB VL 16MB minimum with 32MB recommended 500MB minimum with 1GB recommended ADAPTEC 1540CF & NEC 3X INTEL ETHERNET EXPRESS Pro Audio Spectrum 17" Ultrascan Monitor Note 2 - Optiplex LV and MVX are the same motherboard in low profile or Midsize chassis. Summary Results compared to a Dell DGX which was the fastest Intel NeXT box 6 months ago showed 157 Tensors satisfied our curiosity. Nothing official, just a check to make sure that we had something the met initial price performance requirements. Pentium Solutions are respectable in the NeXTstep community. Dimension XPS 486 66MHz with #9 3MB VRAM and Optiplex MVX 66MHz with #9 3MB is similar to the DGX in total performance. I don't claim to know what all these benchmarks actually mean and do not know how to optimize the system. If anything looks wrong, I probably copied it wrong. We have a driver for the onboard NCR 810 SCSI which shows about 3X disk performance but I've noticed that it does not show on Power Bench. I'm not sure their disk access benchmarks are accurate as I've notice benchmarks seem to show ISA 1540 faster than every other controller. Visible and disk timing for retreival show this to be incorrect. Network was not connected so the network benchmark may be invalid. If I can be of any assistance, please call me. Tom Hartsell - Advanced Systems thru System Integration tom@jenny.us.dell.com Although we have not tested this configuration at this time, this benchmark was submitted by one of our customers. From: Tim Wasko <tim@dogcow.cuc.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 19:25:00 -0600 To: tom@jenny.us.dell.com Subject: Re: #9 etc Thanks for the info on the #9 PCI. Let me know what kind of numbers you get with the Viper PCI driver (if you run any benchmarks on your machines). I would be interested in the various Dell Pentium machines. Here are the numbers from my XPS P60 (32MB RAM, Viper PCI): 86206 dhrystones/s 54.733967 VAX mips line 0.70900 arc 0.75099 fill 0.64143 transform 1.94886 composite 0.57925 userpath 1.89959 text 0.59119 window 0.36322 -------- NXFactor2 0.935445 It might be interesting if you set up a Dell/NEXTSTEP mailing list to keep Dell owners using NEXTSTEP up to date with any NEXT related info from Dell. Regards, Tim tim@dogcow.cuc.ab.ca The following is a copy of the Press Announcments from Talus. Subject: PRESS RELEASE: ATI PCI Video device driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2 For more information contact: Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation 10602 Chapel Hill Drive Houston, Texas 77099 EMAIL: info@talus.com TEL: (713) 561-0700 FAX: (713) 561-5428 Houston, TX, April 26, 1994 - Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation announces the availability of the ATI PCI Video driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2. PCI ATI display adapter device driver supports only ATI PCI bus on-board display adapter at the following display modes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- PCI ATI Mach32 graphics controller with STG 1700 (SGS-THOMSON Microelectronics) RAMDAC VRAM 2MB Grey scale 8 bits per pixel 800 x 600 @ 60Hz, 72Hz 1024 x 768 @ 60Hz, 70Hz, 72Hz, 76Hz 1120 x 832 @ 60Hz, 68Hz 1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz 2MB Color 16 bits per pixel 800 x 600 @ 60Hz, 72Hz 1024 x 768 @ 60Hz, 70Hz, 72Hz, 76 Hz 1120 x 832 @ 60Hz, 68Hz --------------------------------------------------------------------- PCI ATI Mach32 graphics controller with ATT20C498 RAMDAC VRAM Greyscale 8 bit 2MB 800 x 600 @ 60Hz, 72Hz 1024 x 768 @ 60Hz, 70Hz, 72Hz, 76Hz 1120 x 832 @ 60Hz, 68Hz 1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz 2MB Color 16 bit 800 x 600 @ 60Hz, 72Hz 1024 x 768 @ 60Hz, 70Hz, 72Hz, 76 Hz 1120 x 832 @ 60Hz, 68Hz 2MB 24-bit TrueColor 800 x 600 @ 60Hz --------------------------------------------------------------------- Supported Computer Systems PCI ATI display adapter device driver lets you take advantage of the PCI systems with on-board ATI-based display adapter (Dell OmniPlex). Contact your nearest NEXTSTEP Reseller for pricing and availability. Talus has been providing custom NEXTSTEP based application development expertise since 1990. Subject: PRESS RELEASE: NCR 53C810 SCSI device driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2 For more information contact: Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation 10602 Chapel Hill Drive Houston, Texas 77099 EMAIL: info@talus.com TEL: (713) 561-0700 FAX: (713) 561-5428 Houston, TX, April 22, 1994 - Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation announces the availability of the NCR 53C810 SCSI driver for NEXTSTEP 3.2. The NCR 53C810 has been designed to connect to the emerging industry standard PCI Bus achitecture. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Supported Computer Systems ALR Evolution V DEC XL Dell Omniplex --------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact your nearest NEXTSTEP Reseller for pricing and availability. Talus has been providing custom NEXTSTEP based application development expertise since 1990. -------- End of Included Message -------- --------------------------------------------- Stephen Gibson, Office Automation Specialist Sonoma State University eMAIL: gibsonst@sonoma.edu Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu GibsonST@aol.com
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From: briansp@css.itd.umich.edu (Brian W. Spolarich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep 3.2 and audio CDs Date: 13 May 1994 19:10:59 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services Message-ID: <2r0jc3$qro@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I found the answer. Title: CDPlayer Troubleshooting Entry Number: 1579 Last Updated: 14 April 94 Document Revision: 494A . . . Don't try to install CDPlayer by copying it directly from the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM. Instead, install the Demonstrations.pkg package in /NeXTCD/Packages on the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM. Just FYI. Thanks to Peter Urka (pcu@umich.edu) for the pointer. -brian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Brian W. Spolarich briansp@umich.edu UM ITD User Services (313) 747-3499 Online Consulting Systems Project http://www.us.itd.umich.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: [intel] Think Twice Before Buying the Media Vision Sound Card Message-ID: <Cpq6x7.ALL@nexusadmin.com> Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration References: <2qrh5c$ol2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 05:22:18 GMT Eric M Hermanson writes !> !> It appears Media Vision is under investigation by the FBI and SEC for !> illegal business (and/or) trade practices. Many members of it's board !> of directors have resigned in the past few days, and Media Vision !> has closed some of it's offices this week. All of this according to !> published reports on clarinet, and other computer news agencies. Therefore, !> it may be wise to think twice before buying that Media Vision card for !> your Intel NEXTSTEP system.... !> !> Eric !> What's your point? Are you saying, "Don't buy from them because they are crooks" or, "Don't buy this board because they are going out of business"? Did the Media Vision cards actually change? I'm not saying that support under NEXTSTEP is problem free, but I don't see how the questions of their business practices affect this kind of buying decision for a peripheral that is relatively cheap and you install it and forget it. Please elaborate! -- David W. Fahrney =:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: Booting from 2nd hard drive? Message-ID: <Cpq7Cq.An7@nexusadmin.com> Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration References: <2pr4to$9jo@post.its.mcw.edu> Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 05:31:37 GMT Robert Morris writes !> I am purchasing a Nextstep compatible Pentium machine from Dell. I hope to !> be able to run it with two hard drives, one with Nextstep and one with !> Windows. Does anyone have experience with this type of configuration? Can !> I boot NS from the second drive? Any help would be appreciated. !> The procedure is described in NeXTAnswers file 1487 "Booting from an Alternative Hard Disk Drive". -- David W. Fahrney =:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: formatting problem with a Seagate 2.1GB Message-ID: <Cpq7tL.AoI@nexusadmin.com> Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration References: <2q72mg$ocg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 05:41:45 GMT weintz steven cortelou writes !> OK, I bought a fine new Seagate Barracuda 12550/N from Pixelated recently, !> nicely formatted and partitioned and all. We installed it in ariend's Cube !> to check it out (my ND is an old '030 Cube that's been 'pamped ahp' and has !> mountigs for just two internals) and tried to run BuildDisk on it. With !> everything we tried we got the same error message: "boot block extends beyond !> front porch" and got nowhere. We can initialize it fine from Workspace and !> use it as a BIG extra disk, but not a system disk. !> !> So, what gives? What are we overlooking? There's 2 partitions on the drive, !> a 1.7GB and a 174MB; when we use BuildDisk it sees the whole drive and we use !> partition panel to choose a similar division. I'm flummoxed and in need of !> space and speed. Soon. !> There is a NeXTAnswers document that describes the solution to this problem exaclty: 1533 Initializing_and_partitioning_big_disks. Get it and you should be all set. -- David W. Fahrney =:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: [Intel] Third party HD drivers Message-ID: <Cpr04G.HG@nexusadmin.com> Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration References: <HORNKVJM.94May11202325@newton.whitman.edu> Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 15:53:03 GMT John Hornkvist writes !> Hi! !> !> From what I have heard, you can install NeXTStep from an unsupported !> SCSI-interface if you have the necessary driver on a floppy in the drive !> during boot. !> !> Will it be necessary to have the floppy every time I reboot, or just !> at the first install? !> Just during the install. You will actually be acked for the driver three times during installation. -- David W. Fahrney =:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hornkvjm@banana.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? In-Reply-To: mduggan@next1's message of 12 May 1994 20:37:56 GMT Message-ID: <HORNKVJM.94May13145101@banana.whitman.edu> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Whitman College References: <1994May6.145018.549@imag.fr> <2qu434$ehb@cosmos.nectech.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 21:51:00 GMT In article <2qu434$ehb@cosmos.nectech.com> mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) writes: Path: math.fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!cosmos.nectech.com!root From: mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 12 May 1994 20:37:56 GMT Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA Lines: 18 References: <1994May6.145018.549@imag.fr> Reply-To: mduggan@nectech.com NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.nectech.com In article <1994May6.145018.549@imag.fr> vermeer@imag.imag.fr (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) writes: > Hi, > > What are the best graphic cards suited for 16bit color > in 1024x768 with NextStep??? Does anybody has tried 2Mb > cheap VLB cards, like Cirrus or ET4000 w32 ? > Are there any drivers for 8-bits color modes ?? > The miro 16si VLB/PCI video card for NS 3.2 is great, very low cost, faster than Diamond Viper. Cost $250-295 US dollars. Supports up to 1152x864 at 71Hz non-interlaced in 16 bit color. Supports 1280x1024 at 61Hz in 8 bit gray scale. NXFActor 2.0 of 1.055 at 1024x768 16bit color 75Hz non-interlaced. Where can I get that card at that price? I called miro, and they wanted $399... They didn't want to point me to another vendor, either... Please help me! I have to have a good graphics card in my hand by the 19th... :>John
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Who's getting a Gecko? Date: 13 May 1994 12:52:34 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2r0ep2$jii@cobber.cord.edu> References: <skrans-070594094821@dialup-1-2.gw.umn.edu> <1994May10.072148.11126@urz.unibas.ch> In article <1994May10.072148.11126@urz.unibas.ch>, Robert Frank <frank@ifi.unibas.ch> wrote: >In article <skrans-070594094821@dialup-1-2.gw.umn.edu> writes: >> I'm very interested in buying a HP 9000/712 for running NeXTSTEP, and I >was >> wondering how many people are considering the same? >> -- >> skrans@epx.cis.umn.edu >We have a 712/60 right now and will be running NEXTSTEP as soon as it is >available. I hope to be allowed to do some beta-testing, though NeXT seams >to be very strict on this matter. >Robert Frank I am most likely going to get an HP 9000/712 60 or 80 over a PC or a Sun SPARCstation 5. It has the performance I want and need now and it is a better buy for what I'm doing. I don't think I want to wait for OpenStep or SPARC native NEXTSTEP. Hopefully, NEXT ports to the PowerPC because the 604 chip has the floating point performance (SPECfp92 of 165) at the low price point that I want. PowerHouse is building PReP compliant PowerPC systems (May 9 Infoworld) for introduction in early 1995 and hopefully NEXTSTEP will be running on them within 1-1.5 years after their introduction. Once NEXTSTEP is out for PA/RISC, I hope HP will acknowledge us as a market. Jon Doroin -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.edu (John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep 3.2 and audio CDs Date: 14 May 1994 00:17:27 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2r1jcn$79g@acme.gatech.edu> References: <2r0jc3$qro@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> briansp@css.itd.umich.edu (Brian W. Spolarich) writes: > I found the answer. >Title: CDPlayer Troubleshooting >Entry Number: 1579 >Last Updated: 14 April 94 >Document Revision: 494A >Don't try to install CDPlayer by copying it directly from the NEXTSTEP >CD-ROM. Instead, install the Demonstrations.pkg package in >/NeXTCD/Packages on the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM. > Just FYI. Thanks to Peter Urka (pcu@umich.edu) for the pointer. Um.. sorry..that's not a globally true answer. I installed mine from the Demonstrations.pkg, and it doesn't work right. I can load and run audio cd's if I'm logged in as root.. but not if I'm on as a user. Rather frustrating. I've gotten 2 or 3 replies suggesting I check the permissions on the relevant files. CDplayer is -rwsr-xr-x and cdaudio.util is also setuid. No help. It creates a file in the same directory as cdaudio.util called cd.device or soemthign like that..this file is always -rw------- and it seems to be re-created each time the file is created, so there's nothing I can do to change it. I'm getting really frustrated about this. What's *REALLY* frustrating is that this is my third or fourth post, and none of the replies I've received came from anyone at Next. I'd at least like them to say something like "it doesn't work with your configuration" so I can at least know to give up. (btw: I"ve posted my configuration in the previous posts). All of this as people in csn.advocacy are sayin "no, Next employees really do read and reply to news articles". :-/ (to be fair, when I had a floppy drive, the guy who is responsable for the floppy driver at Next did in fact mail me and help me fix the problem). John -- John "Kzin" Rudd gt6963c@prism.getech.edu (ex-kzin@cc.gatech.edu) Ascii Mail only (no Nextmail) (ex-kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu) ========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatable.===============
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Howard Yermish) Subject: DSP Device Wanted Message-ID: <1994May15.013107.22496@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY) Distribution: usa Date: Sun, 15 May 94 01:31:07 GMT I recently got an old 030 cube operational for use with NeXT sound applications (Csound, Cmix, LPC, RT, Pvc, etc.) specifically for writing electronic music pieces. Lots of these programs like to write directly to a DSP device and I do not have one yet. At school we use a Singular Solutions AD64x box. I do not need anything very fancy. Does anyone have a DSP device for sale that a student in need could acquire?? Please email for responses to avoid extra bandwidth. If you could include the types of digital/analog inputs/outputs, that would be great. - Howard Yermish hyrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu hyermish@lulu.esm.rochester.edu Eastman School of Music
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to boot a cube w/o monitor? Message-ID: <jtarr.768942876@husc7.harvard.edu> From: jtarr@husc7.harvard.edu (Jeff Tarr) Date: 14 May 94 19:14:36 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts I have a Cube that I would like to run without its monitor. Unfortunately, the keyboard plugs into the monitor, so without the monitor I can't power-on the machine. Can I boot up and then disconnect the monitor? Thanks in advance. Please e-mail responses. Thanks. --Jeff -- Jeff Tarr Digitas jtarr@husc.harvard.edu The Future is Now WWW: http://jtarr.student.harvard.edu/ "If I'm right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) Subject: Re: How to boot a cube w/o monitor? Message-ID: <1994May15.110109.9713@uriela.in-berlin.de> Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de Organization: NeXAPP References: <jtarr.768942876@husc7.harvard.edu> Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 11:01:09 GMT In article <jtarr.768942876@husc7.harvard.edu> writes: #I have a Cube that I would like to run without its monitor. Unfortunately, #the keyboard plugs into the monitor, so without the monitor I can't #power-on the machine. Can I boot up and then disconnect the monitor? # #Thanks in advance. # #Please e-mail responses. # #Thanks. # #--Jeff # You may use a soundbox, if you have one... so long *** perstoro *** -- ************************* NT == nice try ****************************** *| Wilhelm Schaefer| perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de | NeXTmail please! |* *| NeXT EnTHUSIAST | Voice +49 30 / 395 31 91 | FAX +49 30/39547 49|* ***********************************************************************
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to boot a cube w/o monitor? Date: 15 May 1994 11:59:27 -0700 Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego Message-ID: <2r5ref$frk@triton.ucsd.edu> References: <jtarr.768942876@husc7.harvard.edu> <1994May15.110109.9713@uriela.in-berlin.de> In article <1994May15.110109.9713@uriela.in-berlin.de> perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de writes: >In article <jtarr.768942876@husc7.harvard.edu> writes: >#I have a Cube that I would like to run without its monitor. Unfortunately, >#the keyboard plugs into the monitor, so without the monitor I can't >#power-on the machine. Can I boot up and then disconnect the monitor? ># > >You may use a soundbox, if you have one... Just a reminder of two things: 1) pin 6 on the 19-pin monitor connector is the power switch. Connect it to ground (pins 13-19) through a 470-ohm resistor to simulate pressing the button. 2) older Cube power supplies won't work properly without the load of the monitor on the -12V supply. A 20-ohm resistor will draw enough current, but it will get hot (7.2 watts). Connection is betwen pin 12 and ground. See the NeXT FAQ for more information. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Think Twice Before Buying the Media Vision Sound Card Date: 16 May 1994 02:44:52 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2r6mn4$oc2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2qrh5c$ol2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <Cpq6x7.ALL@nexusadmin.com> In article <Cpq6x7.ALL@nexusadmin.com> Dave@NexusAdmin.COM writes: >Eric M Hermanson writes >!> It appears Media Vision is under investigation by the FBI and SEC for >!> illegal business (and/or) trade practices. Many members of it's board >!> of directors have resigned in the past few days, and Media Vision >!> has closed some of it's offices this week. >What's your point? Are you saying, "Don't buy from them because they are >crooks" or, "Don't buy this board because they are going out of business"? My only point is that the information indicates that the SEC is ready to crack down on this company, and many of their offices have closed suddenly in the past two weeks. So if you are considering purchasing their hardware, you may wish to find out more about what awaits them (and your potential hardware) in the near future. That's all. I'm not telling anyone to avoid the Media Vision card, I'm just informing of their apparent legal problems. Eric
From: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!! Date: 16 May 1994 06:22:10 GMT Organization: Electrical Engineering Computer Teaching Labs Message-ID: <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu> I've run into a serious problem with NextStep, running on a network of black hardware boxes. It seems that certain programs allocate virtual-memory space and never return or re-use this space, eventually filling up the swap device to capacity with stale pages and causing a system crash. The only two programs that seem to do this (that we've noticed) are the ImageViewer application (by Lennart Lovstrand) and the Wingz spreadsheet (the last version released before Wingz was discontinued). The trouble with Wingz is particularly troublesome, because the entire network depends on a couple of Wingz servers (linked to clients via the spreadshett's Hyperscript language) for various operations. Some of these operations involve opening more than one hundred data files, and each time a file is loaded in a little bit more of the swap space gets allocated (and never freed!). By the middle of the work day, the servers' swap disks have nearly filled and performance has slowed to a crawl (it will eventually crash outright). Compounding tis memory-leak problem is the fact that the NeXT kernel will never free up the old swap page, EVEN AFTER THE OFFENDING PROGRAM HAS BEEN QUIT OR KILLED! Only a complete system reboot (rather intrusive in this environment) will allow work to resume. We have a kludged "solution" now whereby a cron job periodically reboots the computer and re-starts the Wingz servers, but this is far from optimal! Under every other version of UNIX I've encountered, memory space gets returned to the free pool once the program that allocated it is gone, but this apparently doesn't happen under NeXT Mach. All the computers involved are running NeXTStep 3.2. Is there any way out of this conundrum? Is it possible to write a privileged program that polices a program's VM usage, and de-allocated stale pages? If there's no easier way I'd like to try this, but have no idea where to begin. Your help would be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance, -- Jordan.
From: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Moaning Maxtor hard drive (moto) Date: 16 May 1994 06:27:14 GMT Organization: Electrical Engineering Computer Teaching Labs Message-ID: <2r73o2$sb3@wea.eel.ufl.edu> References: <2qjiu4$k0p@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <2qjiu4$k0p@agate.berkeley.edu>, Jessica L. Mosher <cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu> wrote: >A couple of times this spring my early-model 330 MB Maxtor drive has let >out a tinny moan. Now I know that that usually means that it's almost >curtains for the drive, but is there anything I could do to perpetuate the >drive a little longer? Perhaps Maxtor drives just make a noise like that >once in a while? Or should I plan on slating some time this summer to >reconfigure a new drive? > This isn't necessarily a serious problem. That kind of sound is often caused by the static pick-up tab becoming loose and vibrating (this is a little piece of metal that contacts the spinning drive spindle, usually on the bottom of the drive). This tab may be accessible already, but sometimes you have to remove a circuit board to get to it. Try setting up something (wedge, strong tape, etc.) to press the tap harder up against the spindle underneath, and the vibration should cease. -- Jordan.
From: bm10009@a6-hct.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need HELP configuring NS/FIP 3.2 on a clone. Date: 16 May 1994 08:54:23 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <2r7cbv$65k@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> This is posted for a friend who doesn't have news acccess: Please send any email replies to Neil Iosson <nji1000@hermes.cam.ac.uk> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I am trying to install NS/I and am having problems with the keyboard locking up. I have tried the fix suggested by NeXTAnswers (see below) and have also tried removing the keyboard briefly, using a different keyboard and varying the drivers. (Apparently the fix is for Gateway systems - does anyone know what might cause it to fail on my clone?) The problem is as follows: Hardware ******** i486/DX2-66 on Clone VLB motherboard. 20MB RAM 234MB Maxtor IDE HD - 134MB Partition left free (unformatted) for NS/I 100MB Partition used by DOS 3 1/2" Floppy Disk Drive BTC-53 AT Keyboard - connected by 5-pin Din Cirrus GD-54xx ISA Graphics card (Adaptec1542B SCSI card + Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM - borrowed when needed) Installation ************ NB. Because I can only borrow the SCSI Card and CD-ROM, they weren't present during this particular "attempt" at installation. I use the following line at the "boot:" prompt :- mach_kernel "Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B Floppy IDE" to which it appears to work and prompts me for language. It then appears to load the various drivers and then prompts with: Device drivers loaded ...: Floppy etc. etc. I then select "2" to continue installation. Shortly after, the NeXTMach loads and runs. The contents of the screen are: ************************************************************************** **** NeXTMach Operating System NeXTMach 3.2: Mon 18 22:08:07 PDT 1993; root (rc builder); mk - 149.30.15obj~2/ RC_i386/RELEASE_I386 physical memory=20.00 megabytes using51 buffers containing 0.39 megabytes of memory available memory=17.04 megabytes.vm_page_free_count=886 ISA bus DriveKit version 320 Registering: PCKeyboard0 Registering: hc0 IDE: using block major 3, character major 15 IDE Drive 0 using MultiSectorMode Registering: hd0 Registering: hd0a hd0: No Valid Disk Label hd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes hd0: Device Capacity: 234 MB Registering: event 0 Registering: kmDevice 0 No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found [see note above] use sd%d, hd%d or fd%d root device ? ************************************************************************** **** At this point the keyboard is totally unresponsive, and even CapsLock keys do not work. When I have had the CD-ROM connected, it has indicated that it has found the CD-ROM and identified it correctly. I was then given the choice of installing NS/I or aborting. At this point the keyboard would not respond. Any help would be very gratefully received since I am somewhat desperate to be up and running and free of Windoze.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: NeXT printer on a Mac? Message-ID: <CpwM2x.A65@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <1994May10.132400.23867@infoman.com> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 16:35:21 GMT In article <1994May10.132400.23867@infoman.com> bennett@infoman.com writes: #In article <lwallyci-060594010846@ramp02.onramp.net> lwallyci@onramp.net #(Leslie Connally) writes: #> I'm a Mac person, and really don't know NeXT, but want to ask if it is #> possible to make a NeXT/canon 11x17 color printer work on a Mac 030 or #040. #> I think it is a question of system-extension-printer driver availability #> and serial or parallel connection ("Power Print" is a serial to parallel #> converter with drivers) I'm calling them tomorrow. #> Please help if you can. #> Sorry if i'm bothering yall here #> (there is one available here low $ auction item (new)) #> #> Leslie Connally #> lwallyci@onramp.net #> 6 may 94 # #No, it is not really possible. The problem is that the NeXT printer has #no brains whatever. None, nota, zip. The NeXT printer used a special #communication port on the NeXT computer that send a image-bit serial (not #an RS-232/422 serial) datastream to the printer. The printer simply #placed dots where the computer said to put them. It has 0 bytes or RAM, #no CPU and nothing quite like a "Serial" or "Parallel" port. You could #build special hardware to interface to it, then write a postscript #interpreter to turn the PS code into dots and provide the image as a #bit-stream. It would be easier to use a real postscript printer. Actually the color printer was SCSI. With the proper software it should work. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer) Subject: Documentation of Dimension-Board Message-ID: <1994May16.062202.3963@balou.rhein.de> Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de Organization: private NeXT Date: Mon, 16 May 94 06:22:02 GMT Hi, does anybody have some printed information about the NeXTDimension-Board? Please point me in the right direction where to find it. Thanks, tommi ------ Thomas Pfleiderer tommi@balou.rhein.de voice/fax: +49 2225 701332 NeXT-Mail appreciated.
From: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Using A NeXT as an answering machine. Date: 16 May 1994 19:29:51 GMT Organization: Electrical Engineering Computer Teaching Labs Message-ID: <2r8hjf$fhh@wea.eel.ufl.edu> References: <CpMw90.Co@jafri.uucp> <CpnIyK.1p7@belly.in-berlin.de> In article <CpnIyK.1p7@belly.in-berlin.de>, Axel Habermann <kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de> wrote: > >It is possible using the program am.1.15, written by >jolly@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Patrick Stein). am.1.15 can act as an >answering machine, receive faxes or let the caller log in via modem. >Outgoing calls on the same modem work as well. > How do you manage this with a normal modem??? Doesn't voice recording & playback support have to be added into the modem's hardware? I didn't think it was possible to mix the 2 modem carrier tones in such a way as to create voice; has someone actually managed to do that? I played with that problem a couple of years ago but never got anywhere... -- Jordan.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoff Kuenning) Subject: Looking for (used) optical drive Distribution: na Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1994May16.194902.26971@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 94 19:49:02 GMT Well, my optical drive has finally died the big death, so I'm left without a backup solution. Naturally this has nervous-making effects on me. I called Bell Atlantic, and a very friendly fellow informed me that Canon has stopped support, and thus Bell Atlantic can't help except by offering a shiny new one for (get this) $2K. Does anybody have a working used optical drive that they'd like to get rid of? I'm going to investigate tape backup too, but I thought a used drive might have certain advantages for my budget. Sellers are encouraged to respond by e-mail. Geoff Kuenning geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu geoff@ITcorp.com
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (randal rencsok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone using Transsys SLIP on annex server?? HELP! Date: 16 May 1994 21:17:53 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <2r8nu1$gss@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Keywords: Transsys, SLIP, ANNEX Hello, I have been trying to get Transsys SLIP package to work for a while. I can ping remote hosts. The nameserver seems to be working fine but I can't telnet sucessuflly anywhere, nor use ftp etc. I was wondering if anyone out there was using Transsys SLIP ver 920904 on Motorola AND going through a ANNEX server that dynamically allocates your IP address and it's server address. I basically would like to see someones sucessful /etc/rc, /etc/rc.local, /usr/dialupip/config/ config.slip, /uar/dialupip/config/rc.slip, and /usr/dialupip/config/ login-annex.tcl files. I'd prefer a system with a local ethernet network enabled, but at this point don't care whether it's a standalone or networked. Anyone who has a sucessful setup feel free to send copies of the above files. I would also like ot see the results of a netstat -in and netstat -ar or the like.. Barring that I tried to send e-mail to info@transsys.com with no luck.. They are not listed in the phone book in laurel MD. So if anyone has Louis Mamakos's address or a viable Transsys address or phone number I'd greatly appreciate it. I've been dinking with this for a couple of months now and can't seem to get beyond ping.. BTW to all who responded to my message on comp..ppp I've tried enabling CSLIP but either it's not working (no message either way) or that is not the problem.. Thanks, Randy Rencsok rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (ascii only till I get slip up!!) .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Intermittent SCSI and UART problems (black cube) Message-ID: <CpxKtE.3yu@muaddib.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <1994May15.234627.10332@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 05:05:38 GMT In article <1994May15.234627.10332@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki) writes: | Hello, | | I have two intermittent hardware problems (again, I'm not sure if these | are real problems) with my black cube: | | 1) Once in a while when the system is under heavy SCSI load (usually | swapping does it, but I cannot reproduce this at will), at some point | everything completely freezes up. The busy mouse pointer keeps spinning | but no windows can be moved or activated. After approximately a minute, | the system comes back, and the following message appears on the console: | | May 15 02:31:15 barbakane mach: sd0 (2,0): scsi_timer: timeout op:0x28 | sd_state:0 scsi status:0x0 | | 2) Again, once in a while, usually during a SLIP connection with FTP | tranfer running at 38400, I get the following messages on the console | (repeatedly, the only thing that cures it is a reboot): | | May 15 18:12:17 barbakane mach: zs0: recv uart overrun | | Could anyone give me any hints as to what might be the source of the above | messages? BTW, I have a Quantum ProDrive 425S installed, if it matters. | | Thank you in advance for any help, | Peter. | | B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA Could you please tell me, if you have two drives. When this is the fact, perhaps the two harddisk have problems working together. I had exactly the same problem with a hitachi-hdk517 Harddisk running with a Seagate hooked to my cube via externel scsi. I 've thrown the hitachi in the garbage box, bought a quantum and everything works know. No more TimeOuts. :-). -- Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________ Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de 81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Getting a CD-ROM to work Message-ID: <CpxL9I.40G@muaddib.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <2qs7os$g8h@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 05:15:18 GMT In article <2qs7os$g8h@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) writes: | Greetings, all. | | I'm trying to get a CD-ROM drive working with my Cube. I'm running | NextStep 2.1 on an 030 Cube. The CD-ROM is an Apple external drive. | | My NeXT recognizes the CD as whatever SCSI ID I give it, so that's not | the trouble. The problem I get is that when I try to boot up with the | CD on the SCSI bus, I get all sorts of SCSI conflict errors. | | The HD is SCSI ID 0. From what I can tell, the Cube itself is SCSI ID | 7. The CD-ROM plugs into the Cube's 25-pin D-shell connector and it | doesn't matter whether it's terminated or not--I always get the same | results. It also does't matter whether I boot from HD or Optical. Same | results. | | Anybody got any tips? I'd really LOVE to upgrade to NextStep 3.x, but I | can't do it if I can't get this blasted CD-ROM drive working! | | Thanks. | | Daniel | -- | Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu | | Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu | eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred) Same problem I had before. With NS 2.1 timeouts where nicely presented nearly every minute. Time differs the higher NeXTSTEP goes with his Version number :-) I told somebody before. I had a hitachi drive before and had all the problems, you told me. I removed terminators, changed ID-Numbers, even bought a new SCSI-Cable. Now I am using a Quantum Harddisk, put the Apple CD-ROM inside my cube an had no timeout for 45 days (uptime). Try to get another harddisk to try out. -- Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________ Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de 81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DELL XPS60/90 vs. Intel GX/Pro: Benchmarks Date: 16 May 1994 08:51:47 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2r78mj$2vh@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2r6crn$jqc@news.mic.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: Benchmarks ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: >is disappointing on two items: file-copy and file-write. This is even >odder, because on file-read the DELL appears to be twice as fast. Does >anybody have an explanation? It almost seems as if the Adaptec (or the >disk) does a "verify after write" whereas the DPT (or the disk) does a >"verify after read." My personal experience with SCSI controller performance: Disk: DEC DSP3053L Adaptec 1542c (ISA): DrivePerformance Index ~0.8 DPT 2021 (ISA): ~1.3 DPT 2022 (EISA): ~1.7 The feeling I have at normal work with the system is that I improved I/O performance by about 25% at each upgrade step. Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does NS take advantage of pentium? Date: 16 May 1994 22:37:03 GMT Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2r8sif$48t@cosmos.nectech.com> References: <2qla00$81c@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> In article <2qla00$81c@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes: > I am looking to get a new NS machine and was wondering if NS takes adavtage > of any pentium features? More importantly, will I see the 2 or 3 times speed > improvement intel claims (I hopinging to go from a 486/50 to a pentium 90 or 100)? > Yes, NS 3.2 has specific hooks for the Pentium FPU and is very very fast on a 90MHz PCI/EISA PC with a hot disk subsystem like DPT 2122 Spectre, and miro PCI Crystal 32s video. Plus, the Intel PC can be set-up to multi-boot into DOS/WINDOWS/NT/OS2/SOLARIS/NOVELL/BANYAN right now. Thanks, Mike
From: mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStep and IDE hard drives Date: 16 May 1994 22:40:15 GMT Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA Message-ID: <2r8sof$493@cosmos.nectech.com> References: <2qlaul$99q@oclc.org> In article <2qlaul$99q@oclc.org> levine@oclc.org (Eugene Levine) writes: > I just purchased the Gateway P5-66 with the Viper Card to run NeXTStep and DOS. > I bought it with 2 540 IDE hard drives (for cost reasons). One for > DOS/Windows and one for NeXTStep. BTW I plan on borrowing a 1542 SCSI card > and CDROM to load the software. > > Does anyone have NeXTStep running on IDE hard drives, whats performance like? > According to what I've heard, the only IDE drives that NeXTStep has problems > with are on IBM's value point line. Any success stories out there? > -gene It depends on two things; 1. The IDE drive itself, does it have cache memory built-in, does it support DMA, does it support block mode transfers, does it have a sub-10ms acess time. 2. IS the IDE a LOCAL BUS/VESA/PCI. Does the BIOS of the PC support DMA, BLOCK MODE TRANSFERS, LOCAL BUS SPEED. Thanks, Mike
From: mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for ET4000 W32i ? Date: 16 May 1994 22:42:22 GMT Organization: NEC Technologies, Inc., Boxborough, MA Message-ID: <2r8sse$495@cosmos.nectech.com> References: <1994May9.103341.26229@imag.fr> In article <1994May9.103341.26229@imag.fr> vermeer@imag.imag.fr (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) writes: > Where can I find NS drivers for the ET-4000 W32i garphic > card? I've searched NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM and found nothing, > except that there exists a Nec-certifyed system... > > Anyone has a driver for me? (ftp anonymous or uuencoded mail OK). > > Alex. > NEC has the tseng W32i drivers for NS 3.1 and NS 3.2 on their BBS (508) 635-4706. Or on Compuserve, GO NEXT, under LIBRARY, HARDWARE. Thanks, Mike
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New miro products and NEXTSTEP Date: 16 May 1994 16:29:07 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2r8oj3$lhd@cobber.cord.edu> I just read about the new products from miro in PC Week (may 9). They include video capture cards (60 fields/sec, 30frames/sec) that can print to video tape and also new video cards that support dual monitors. It would really be nice to get the functionality of the NeXTDimension board back. I hope we can expect them to have drivers for NEXTSTEP. Does anyone know if NEXTSTEP support is planned? I smell NEXTIME. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Adding memory to an Intel/GX Pro -- how? Message-ID: <thompsonCpxCvD.BD2@netcom.com> Organization: Saperstein, et al. Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 02:14:00 GMT It's been a while since I actually had to muck with PC hardware.. adding memory to my color turbo was so easy, I'm confused.. I assume I need to buy a memory (or multifunction) board and install it, unless there happen to be extra memory slots on an existing board, correct? The GX's in question have 24mb and 40mb, and I want to add 8 or 16mb more to each. Recommendations for places to buy said memory are also welcome. thanks, Eric Thompson eric@saperstein.com (NeXTmail ok) Database Administrator thompson@netcom.com Saperstein, Mayeda & Goldstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!! In-Reply-To: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu's message of 16 May 1994 06:22:10 GMT To: jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 14:14:51 GMT In article <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu> jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen) writes: I've run into a serious problem with NextStep, running on a network of black hardware boxes. It seems that certain programs allocate virtual-memory space and never return or re-use this space, eventually filling up the swap device to capacity with stale pages and causing a system crash. The only two programs that seem to do this (that we've noticed) are the ImageViewer application (by Lennart Lovstrand) and the Wingz spreadsheet (the last version released before Wingz was discontinued). You misunderstand. Virtual memory is allocated and freed under NS just as under any other version of UN*X. What you are complaining about is that the swap file doesn't shrink. True, but this does not mean that the pages in that file can't be reused any number of times. It means that if one of your big processes uses a lot of virtual memory, it will cause pages to be allocated in the swap file and the swap file will grow. When the process exits, those pages will be freed even if the swap file doesn't shrink. Then when you start another big process, it will have all those freed swap pages available and the swap file will only start growing again after it has used up all the space in the swap file. The swap file will never grow larger than the total amount of virtual memory in use at some point. Under every other version of UNIX I've encountered, memory space gets returned to the free pool once the program that allocated it is gone, but this apparently doesn't happen under NeXT Mach. Just think of the swap file as a swap partition with the added benefit that when it fills up instead of panicking (as many versions of UN*X would) NS just grows it safely. I've rarely heard people complain about the fact that their swap partitions don't shrink when they aren't being used but for some reason that seems to some to be a valid criticism of NS. If you really don't like that behavior, just add a hiwat and a lowat switch to your swap initialization and you have exactly replicated the behavior of a fixed size swap partition. If this still yields unacceptable behavior, buy more core memory. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: HW for Solitaire? Message-ID: <Cpxurn.KAq@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 08:40:35 GMT There's an excellent Solitaire game for the NeXT PC with really nice looking cards. I run it using a GUP VLB (2megs) on a 486DX-66/2. Something is wrong in the sense that I feel I have to drag the cards from one pile to another. Would getting a faster computer, or a faster graphics' card make Solitaire snappy? For instance, would one of the Miro cards make Solitaire play like it should? Thank's,...Philip -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Subject: CDROM recommendation Message-ID: <1994May17.024053.217@agog.com> Sender: greg@agog.com (Greg Cockroft) Organization: Agog, Inc. Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 02:40:53 GMT Can anyone recommend a cdrom drive that is available from a 1-800 order house that works with Black Hardware, Sparc, and PC's? -greg. -- Greg Cockroft greg@agog.com Agog, Inc. 13780 North River Highway Grand Ledge, MI 48837
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jafri!ajafri (Amir Jafri) Subject: QUESTION : RAM for NeXTStation Turbo Message-ID: <Cpxynn.183@jafri.uucp> Sender: ajafri@jafri.uucp (Amir Jafri) Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:04:34 GMT Hi! Can anyone tell me the maximum amount of RAM one can install into a NeXTStation Turbo? I currently have 16Mb. Is 32Mb the upper limit or can I go up to 64Mb? BTW, I bought my machine in October 1992. -- Amir Jafri jafri!ajafri@uunet.ca NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Using A NeXT as an answering machine. Message-ID: <Cpxy0I.2rz@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <2r8hjf$fhh@wea.eel.ufl.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 09:50:41 GMT In article <2r8hjf$fhh@wea.eel.ufl.edu> jnh@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Jordan Hazen) writes: [...discussion of voice playback/recording on modems...] > How do you manage this with a normal modem??? Doesn't voice recording > & playback support have to be added into the modem's hardware? I > didn't think it was possible to mix the 2 modem carrier tones in such > a way as to create voice; has someone actually managed to do that? I > played with that problem a couple of years ago but never got > anywhere... It works only if the modem supports voice decoding/encoding. am.1.15 works with ZyXEL Modems from ROM Version 5.00 up. Newer Modems based on the Rockwell chipset are capable of doing voice also, but the commands are slightly different. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: martin@initiera.upnet.se (Martin Wennerberg) Subject: Using both Ethernet and Tokenring? Message-ID: <1994May17.123454.26809@sics.se> Keywords: Ethernet Tokenring Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:34:54 GMT Does anybody now if it is possible to have a Tokenring card and an Ethernet card in the same machine ? I would like to be able use my machine as a "bridge" between Ethernet and Tokenring. Anybody heard of a solution for this ? Thanks, /Ulf ulf@initiera.upnet.se
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for ET4000 W32i ? Date: 17 May 1994 12:45:45 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2rae9p$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994May9.103341.26229@imag.fr> <2r8sse$495@cosmos.nectech.com> Michael C. Duggan (mduggan@next1) wrote: : In article <1994May9.103341.26229@imag.fr> vermeer@imag.imag.fr : (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) writes: : > Where can I find NS drivers for the ET-4000 W32i garphic : > : > : > Alex. : > : NEC has the tseng W32i drivers for NS 3.1 and NS 3.2 on their BBS (508) or ANYBODY can email me private and I can send it to you, it's already to go..... and Alex already has it.... Gary : Mike -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for ET4000 W32i ? Date: 17 May 1994 13:24:46 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ragiu$dbs@vega.info.isbiel.ch> References: <2rae9p$i73@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Yes I'm interrested in it ! Could you please send it me ? Thanks a lot Oli
From: hdwoernd@faui06d.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bugfix: ATI rev.3 @1120x832 Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 16:26:47 +0200 Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany Message-ID: <2rak77$fns@faui06d.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Summary: ATI r3 now works great! Keywords: ATI bug viedeo Good news for all folks using an older ATI, revision 3 Card: Now it works nearly CLEAN at 1120x832. You only have to recompile the 'ATI-driver in /NextDeveloper/Examples/Driverkit/ATI...' with the following changes in the file "ATIconfig.c": static const ATI_CRTSetup ATI_crt_1120_68 = { 1120, 832, 173, 139, 138, 15, 1725, 1663, 1666, 6, 0x23, 0x062c, 0, }; the values mean: 173 (* 8) pixels total (before 171) 139 (* 8) pixels visable (unchanged) 138 (* 8) pixels when hSync comes (before 145) 15 (* 8) pixels hSync width (before 12) 1725 (/ 2) lines total (before 1736) 1663 (/ 2) lines visable (unchanged) 1666 (/ 2) lines when vSync comes (before 1669) 6 (/ 2) lines vSync width (unchanged) 0x23 .. control flags (unchanged) 0x062c .. clock select for 80 MHz (unchanged) 0 .. mux-flag (??? - unchanged) The Settings also better adjust the width for low-cost 17"-displays. WARNING: The display must work with HSync-signals up to 60 KHz, a pixel-clock up to 80 MHz and vSync-signals up to 67.5 Hz. The new vertical refresh rate is 67Hz, the old one is 67.7 Hz (not 68). My System now runs nearly with no black or white lines at the left border of the screen. (You don't recognice them) If you want to experience with new resolutions, you will like this setting for 17" displays (1280x960 @ 67Hz, BW:8): static const ATI_CRTSetup ATI_crt_1280_67 = { 1280, 960, 206, 159, 162, 23, 1992, 1920, 1926, 12, 0x23, 0x0628, 1, }; To install a new resolution, fill in the CRTSetup and update the table 'ATIMode[]'. You also have to add one line into the file 'localiceable.string'. If someone is able to run the ATI interlaced, please send me the description, how you did it, because I got an old 19" fix-frequence greyscale monitor (80Hz i). Waiting for other (re)solutions... Bye, Harry
From: milov@uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!! Date: 17 May 1994 13:56:34 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Distribution: world Message-ID: <2raiei$bul@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: [Explanation of swap file behavior deleted] > If > this still yields unacceptable behavior, buy more core memory. > Wow, _core_ memory on a NeXT! Any suggestions for vendors? :-))) Milo "it ran in 32k on a pdp11" Velimirovic --- Milo Velimirovic (milov@uwlax.edu) Unix Computer Network Administrator University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: QUESTION : RAM for NeXTStation Turbo Date: 17 May 1994 08:27:41 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2ranpd$ivk@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <Cpxynn.183@jafri.uucp> Amir Jafri (jafri!ajafri) wrote: : Hi! : Can anyone tell me the maximum amount of RAM one can install : into a NeXTStation Turbo? I currently have 16Mb. : Is 32Mb the upper limit or can I go up to 64Mb? : BTW, I bought my machine in October 1992. You can put 4 72 pin simms in the box. I don't think the 64 mb simms would work, but 32 mb simms will. I currently have 4 16 mb simms in my turbocolor. The extra ram is definitely worth the investment. -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat desert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer) Subject: Searching for BBS Message-ID: <1994May17.071514.897@balou.rhein.de> Sender: tommi@balou.rhein.de Organization: private NeXT Date: Tue, 17 May 94 07:15:14 GMT Hejsa, does anybody know, if there is a BBS for the NeXT? I want to have a nice menu-system where people can dial in and browse through news and mail and can exchange files etc. tommi ------ Thomas Pfleiderer tommi@balou.rhein.de voice/fax: +49 2225 701332 NeXT-Mail appreciated.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!! Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:41:33 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4hqDCxu00iV283P=FP@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 16-May-94 Re: Virtual mem. never get .. by Carl Edman@princeton.edu > [ good comments deleted] > If you really don't like that behavior, just add a > hiwat and a lowat switch to your swap initialization and you have > exactly replicated the behavior of a fixed size swap partition. If > this still yields unacceptable behavior, buy more core memory. Actually, most people are better off buying a small hard drive and using it as a swapdisk. I would suggest anywhere from 105MB to 250MB as being pretty reasonable, although a fair number of people would be happy enough with something like the 40MB swap drive found in the Cube, while others with machines under massive load that absolutely must remain running for as long as possible, might consider getting even more swap space. (BTW, I use my NeXTstations' original 250MB Seagate as my swapdrive now. Works wonderfully...) -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CDROM recommendation [Apple PowerCD] Date: 17 May 1994 17:25:06 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rauli$941@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <1994May17.024053.217@agog.com> Greg Cockroft writes > > Can anyone recommend a cdrom drive that is available from a 1-800 order > house that works with Black Hardware, Sparc, and PC's? Hi Greg, I went ahead and bought the Apple PowerCD from MacWarehouse (1-800-225-6227). Since it has been discontinued, it is only $199 (single-speed), but you will need to buy a $50 cable to convert from Apple's 50-pin Centronics to micro-SCSI (SCSI-2) to connect it to an '040 NeXT. I'm sure there are ways to get it to connect to PCs and SPARCs, but I don't know what they would be. It is a little flaky, but it did work to install NS 3.2. I haven't tried CDPlayer yet. -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
From: Rick Stanley Francis <rg20+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: next color printer? Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 13:52:22 -0400 Organization: Sponsored account, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8hqEFKS00WB6IoQU91@andrew.cmu.edu> I have a chance to buy a next color printer, I had a few questions: What is the output quality? (and the resolution?) Is it usable with other computers or does it depend on the next's printer port(and the next to do the processing). Also what are they worth these dayas??? Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance. -Rick Francis rickf@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Wanted: Info on putting a scanner on a NeXTstation Message-ID: <espritCpyLBw.3un@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 18:14:10 GMT What are the options for hanging a scanner off of a NeXTstation? Can I just get any SCSI scanner? What about software? Do I have to get a particular type of scanner and special software? Help! -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New miro products and NEXTSTEP Date: 17 May 1994 18:32:52 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Distribution: na Message-ID: <2rb2kk$fr@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <2r8oj3$lhd@cobber.cord.edu> In article <2r8oj3$lhd@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu writes: > > I just read about the new products from miro in PC Week (may 9). They > include video capture cards (60 fields/sec, 30frames/sec) that can print to See Interpersonal Computing on NEXTSTEP Expo with the ScreenMachine II an (hopefully) the MovieMachine on NEXTSTEP. Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CYRIX 486DX-40, how well does it work? Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:37:36 Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis Message-ID: <nemiroal.133.000CA0D9@bus.orst.edu> Hi, I noticed in the FAQ the some people were successfull in running NeXTSTEP/Intel on Cyrix CPU's. I have seen Cyrix 486/40 w/Math Co motherboards for $200. Does anyone have experiences good or bad with trying to run NS on these machines? -Aleksander Nemirovsky Oregon State University
From: hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu (Jesse Hurlbut) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: screen calibration Date: 17 May 1994 21:13:35 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Message-ID: <2rbc1v$2hp@s.ms.uky.edu> I'm trying to figure out why color images I have processed on a black NeXT come out looking darker on other machines--even on very nice monitors. I've been told that Black NeXTs have a "calibrated screen." Could someone explain this to me (use small words, please) and is it possible to configure an Intel system to do the same thing? In short, I am preparing several images for broad distribution and I would like them to look as good as possible on as many systems as possible. Both color reproduction and contrast are extremely important issues. I realize that a lot of the problem is beyond my control (i.e., other people's crummy monitors), but I want to make sure that the problem's not generated in my machine. I'll be getting a new NS/I system this Summer, any suggestions for optimum configuration for image processing? Thanks in advance, Jesse Hurlbut hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu (NeXTmail)
From: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com (Peter Lipps) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Searching for BBS Date: 17 May 1994 21:03:49 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2rbbfl$9ve@rosie.next.com> References: <1994May17.071514.897@balou.rhein.de> Keywords: BBS, NeXTanswers In article <1994May17.071514.897@balou.rhein.de> tommi@balou.rhein.de (Thomas Pfleiderer) writes: > Hejsa, > > does anybody know, if there is a BBS for the NeXT? Since you are based in Germany you are lucky ;-) Yes, there is a NeXT/NEXTSTEP BBS (here's a quote from the NeXTanswers Europe CD installation notes) USING NEXTANSWERS BY BBS An independent NeXT-BBS, the OCTAGON-Mailbox, has been established in Weilheim, Germany to distribute NeXTanswers via modem. To connect to this mailbox, dial +49 08803-61111. Set your communications software to 8bit/No Parity. The mailbox supports protocols up to V.32 and PEP. The BBS also maintains an ISDN connection under a NICCY 3000 modem with the number +49 08803-6214-9. For further information, please contact Mr. Alexander Steins, alex@octagon.de per e-mail. and yes it runs on a NEXTSTEP system. Greetings from Germany -Peter ______________________________ Peter Lipps NeXT Computer Deutschland GmbH - Oskar-Messter-Str. 24, 85737 Ismaning, Germany InterNet: Peter_Lipps@NeXT.com
From: indy@ih-nxt07.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: THANKS! - (WAS Re: formatting problem with a Seagate 2.1GB) Date: 17 May 1994 21:46:23 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rbdvf$sfe@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <Cpq7tL.AoI@nexusadmin.com> T H A N K S to all who responded to my plea. NeXTanswers #1533, Initializing_and_partitioning_big_disks, was the key. We did have a curveball thrown at us in the form of a goofy ned to install 3.0 FIRST, then upgrade to 3.2. Go figure. Kudos to: Michael S. Barthelemy <msb@piglet.ny.shl.com> Mark D. Doyle <doyle@zeke.Rockefeller.edu> Sandy Hawkins <shawk@panix.com> Dave@NexusAdmin.COM (David W. Fahrney) and especially "J.B. Nicholson-Owens" <jbn@uiuc.edu> I couldn't have done it without you! Steve Weintz EthnoGraphics indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu
From: rgc@twix.cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Bugfix: ATI rev.3 @1120x832 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 18 May 1994 01:20:34 GMT Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Message-ID: <2rbqh2$nvn@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <2rak77$fns@faui06d.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler (hdwoernd@faui06d.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) wrote: : Good news for all folks using an older ATI, revision 3 Card: : Now it works nearly CLEAN at 1120x832. You only have to recompile : the 'ATI-driver in /NextDeveloper/Examples/Driverkit/ATI...' : with the following changes in the file "ATIconfig.c": ATIModes.c : static const ATI_CRTSetup ATI_crt_1120_68 = { static const ATI_CRTCSetup ATI_crt_1120_68 = { ^ : 1120, 832, : 173, 139, 138, 15, : 1725, 1663, 1666, 6, : 0x23, 0x062c, 0, }; : the values mean: : 173 (* 8) pixels total (before 171) : 139 (* 8) pixels visable (unchanged) : 138 (* 8) pixels when hSync comes (before 145) : 15 (* 8) pixels hSync width (before 12) : 1725 (/ 2) lines total (before 1736) : 1663 (/ 2) lines visable (unchanged) : 1666 (/ 2) lines when vSync comes (before 1669) : 6 (/ 2) lines vSync width (unchanged) : 0x23 .. control flags (unchanged) : 0x062c .. clock select for 80 MHz (unchanged) : 0 .. mux-flag (??? - unchanged) : The Settings also better adjust the width for low-cost 17"-displays. : WARNING: The display must work with HSync-signals up to 60 KHz, : a pixel-clock up to 80 MHz and vSync-signals up to 67.5 Hz. : The new vertical refresh rate is 67Hz, the old one is 67.7 Hz (not 68). : My System now runs nearly with no black or white lines at the left : border of the screen. (You don't recognice them) Unfortunately, I still very noticeable lines on my rev 3 ATI card (with a NEC Multisync 5fg). Have to wait for the GUT drivers...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: Adding memory to an Intel/GX Pro -- how? Message-ID: <Cpyux0.zu@nexusadmin.com> Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration References: <thompsonCpxCvD.BD2@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 21:41:23 GMT Eric Thompson writes !> It's been a while since I actually had to muck with PC hardware.. adding !> memory to my color turbo was so easy, I'm confused.. I assume I need to buy !> a memory (or multifunction) board and install it, unless there happen to !> be extra memory slots on an existing board, correct? The GX's in question !> have 24mb and 40mb, and I want to add 8 or 16mb more to each. !> The GX has 4 SIMM slots which must be filled two at a time. You have all slots filled: the 24MB machine has 2-4MB SIMMs and 2-8MB SIMMs, the 40MB machine has 2-4MB SIMMs and 2-16MB SIMMs. To add more memory you will have to replace some of the memory you already have. Memory expansion boards might be available but I wouldn't recommend it as access would be slow and I doubt such would be supported under NEXTSTEP. -- David W. Fahrney =:-)
From: Ron Blanford <blanford@gemstone.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good ISA Video card ?? Date: 13 May 1994 21:01:48 GMT Organization: TRW Systems Development Division Message-ID: <2r0prs$6ps@deneva.sdd.trw.com> References: <2qsfq3$dkp@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> In article <2qsfq3$dkp@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> kunkee@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Randy Kunkee) writes: > I too have an ISA machine, and would prefer to not have to buy a > new motherboard to get color. Of course, I would like to get > reasonable performance. The ATI Ultrapro comes in an ISA version, > with 2MB of RAM on board. Seems to me that if I bought this card > (for around $270 at Comp USA) that I ought to get color, albeit > perhaps a little slow due to the ISA bus. There is a driver for > ATI Ultra Pro that comes with 3.2. Would this card give me color? > Naturally, I'd prefer 1024x768 resolution, although 8 bit color > would suit me fine. > > Or does NextStep/FIP just refuse to do more than greyscale on an > ISA machine? The ATI Ultrapro ISA will only work with the generic VGA driver in default VGA mode (640x480x2bit) no matter how much memory you put on it. The ATI driver that comes with 3.2 assumes and requires a VLB board to be present. None of the NextStep drivers support 8-bit color at present. Some of the drivers support 16-bit or 24-bit color, but others, such as the Tseng Labs T4000 driver, only do 2-bit greyscale. -- Ron
From: markf@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu (Mark Frohnmayer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: a good tape backup drive Date: 18 May 1994 02:47:03 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rbvj7$a3i@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all- I'm looking for a good SCSI tape backup drive that works with NS and DOS for my NS/FIP setup. Something with a decent capacity (> 200 MEGS) and relatively cheap is best. Please reply to: markf@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu Thanks! -Mark
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HW for Solitaire? Date: 17 May 1994 21:14:26 -0600 Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Message-ID: <2rc16i$39f@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <Cpxurn.KAq@utstat.toronto.edu> In article <Cpxurn.KAq@utstat.toronto.edu>, Philip McDunnough <phillip@utstat.toronto.edu> wrote: >There's an excellent Solitaire game for the NeXT PC with really nice looking >cards. I run it using a GUP VLB (2megs) on a 486DX-66/2. Something is wrong >in the sense that I feel I have to drag the cards from one pile to another. >Would getting a faster computer, or a faster graphics' card make Solitaire >snappy? ... No, not that much snappier. A PCI Pentium w/ a Diamond Viper will only be about 50% faster for graphics. Are you running version 2.1? I just submitted it to the archives not more than a couple of weeks ago. I tried to pre-draw the cards to help speed things up a bit, but I'm afraid you'll never have Window's kinda snappy for our Solitaire without more coding than I have time to dedicate. The good news is the next generation of HW shouldn't run any slower. %^) Later, -- Michael McCulloch michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) Huntsville, Alabama
From: bm10009@a6-hct.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's a suitable UK NeXT fax/modem? Date: 17 May 1994 22:28:12 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Distribution: uk Message-ID: <2rbgds$mmf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I'd like to know what would be a good fax modem to use in getting a NeXT connected up to internet here in the UK. I have heard good things about the ZyXel modems but am unaware as to whether they would work correctly in this country. Ideally I would like something that works well with NXFax. Also any general pointers to setting up an internet connection would be appreciated - I guess the way to go is SLIP and a Demon account, but I have very little experience in this area. (The system will have its own dedicated telephone line). I have heard of programs such as SLIPcommander etc... but don't really know what it does. Is there a FAQ listing or some other file with good introductory info? Any advice would be greatly received, Thanks in advance, Ben Moseley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!! In-Reply-To: milov@uwlax.edu's message of 17 May 1994 13:56:34 GMT To: milov@uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May17182934@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2raiei$bul@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 22:29:34 GMT In article <2raiei$bul@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> milov@uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic) writes: In article <CEDMAN.94May16101454@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: [Explanation of swap file behavior deleted] > If > this still yields unacceptable behavior, buy more core memory. Wow, _core_ memory on a NeXT! Any suggestions for vendors? :-))) Yes, lots of people wanted to know, so I investigated and saved the list of vendors. Unfortunately I can't any longer find the core file. Carl Edman core n. Main storage or RAM. Dates from the days of ferrite-core memory; now archaic as techspeak most places outside IBM, but also still used in the UNIX community and by old-time hackers or those who would sound like them. Some derived idioms are quite current; `in core', for example, means `in memory' (as opposed to `on disk'), and both core dump and the `core image' or `core file' produced by one are terms in favor. Commonwealth hackish prefers store.
From: lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: screen calibration Date: 17 May 1994 23:40:10 -0600 Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Message-ID: <2rc9nq$hak@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <2rbc1v$2hp@s.ms.uky.edu> In article <2rbc1v$2hp@s.ms.uky.edu>, Jesse Hurlbut <hurlbut@burgundy.hon.uky.edu> wrote: > I'm trying to figure out why color images I have processed on a black NeXT > come out looking darker on other machines--even on very nice monitors. > > I've been told that Black NeXTs have a "calibrated screen." Could someone > explain this to me (use small words, please) and is it possible to > configure an Intel system to do the same thing? The problem is related to the linear color model NEXTSTEP uses vs. the non-linear color model for most other OS's. The best way around this is to gamma correct (or de-correct depending on your perspective) on the target platform. Several 3rd party apps on Macs and PCs are capable of doing gamma correction. To explain, here are two (attempted) graphs: x x x x x x x x x x x x If the +y direction is increasing brightness, perhaps you can see that for the same x locations in the color curve, the linear color model appears brighter than the non-linear color curve. An exponential correction is required to achieve similar perceived brightness if converting between the two. I wrote McFilter to handle images that look too bright coming from other platforms. Your problem is the exact opposite. The general rules are any image imported from another platform to NEXTSTEP will look too bright. Any image exported from NEXTSTEP to another platform will look too dark. In any case, NEXTSTEP seems to be the odd man on this. Is there any inherent reason with respect to DPS that demands a linear color model? -- Michael McCulloch michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: What's a suitable UK NeXT fax/modem? Message-ID: <1994May18.064445.4007@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2rbgds$mmf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Distribution: uk Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 06:44:45 GMT In article <2rbgds$mmf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> bm10009@a6-hct.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley) writes: > I'd like to know what would be a good fax modem to use in getting a NeXT > connected up to internet here in the UK. I have heard good things about > the ZyXel modems but am unaware as to whether they would work correctly in > this country. If you don't care about BABT approval, then any of the regular fax modems that work with NXFax will work very well in the UK. ZyXEL and Supra are two obvious ones. If BABT approval really matters to you, then your choice is limited (but you still have a choice). The MultiTech MT1432BLK has a BABT approved version (but testing has shown that it seems to have some problems cooperating with certain sending/receiving fax devices); and the Zoom also has an approved version. > Ideally I would like something that works well with NXFax. Also any > general pointers to setting up an internet connection would be appreciated > - I guess the way to go is SLIP and a Demon account, but I have very > little experience in this area. (The system will have its own dedicated > telephone line). I have heard of programs such as SLIPcommander etc... but > don't really know what it does. Is there a FAQ listing or some other file > with good introductory info? Demon is the obvious low cost IP provider. There are two documents that may be of use in this area, both available for anonymous ftp from ftp.demon.co.uk. They are: /pub/NeXT/NeXT.Internet.rtfd.compressed, and /pub/doc/os/NeXT.txt. The former is a detailed cookbook for use in connecting a NeXT to Demon, and the latter is an overview of the various packages available to help. SLIPCommander isn't mentioned, simply because it is designed to overcome certain problems that Demon doesn't really have. Paul --- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bbrown@solana.com Subject: Compaq 486 SLDX portable (25 Mhz) Distribution: fj Message-ID: <geetha.94May1893453@ganesha> Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (System Administrator) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:34:53 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bbrown@solana.com Subject: Compaq 486 SLDX portable (25 Mhz) Distribution: fj Message-ID: <geetha.94May1893531@ganesha> Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (System Administrator) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 09:35:31 GMT Hi, Does anyone have experience with the above mentioned portable and NeXTSTEP? Thanks much. Bill Brown bbrown@solana.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: daver@harmony.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Subject: Where to get SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable... Message-ID: <daver.769274810@cc.gatech.edu> Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 15:26:50 GMT I'd like to get a cable that will allow me to connect an Apple CD-ROM drive to the SCSI port on the back of my '040 cube. If anyone has one for sale or knows an easy way to get one, I'd love to know... Thanks, DR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: FZUST@ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Zeus) Subject: 64bit S3 chip Message-ID: <FZUST.17.00097EC9@ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> Summary: Is driver available for 64bit S3 chip? Sender: news@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (news) Organization: NCR WPD-Clemson Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 14:29:39 GMT Is there a NeXTSTEP driver for the 64bit S3 chip, PCI? If so, where?
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: screen calibration Date: 18 May 1994 18:00:22 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <2rdl3m$hmm@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <2rbc1v$2hp@s.ms.uky.edu> <2rc9nq$hak@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) writes: [...stuff deleted...] >In any case, NEXTSTEP seems to be the odd man on this. Is there any >inherent reason with respect to DPS that demands a linear color model? Yes, according to the Docs its needed so PostScript dithering will work. Marcel
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ET4000W32i Benchmarks Date: 18 May 1994 18:21:32 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2rdmbc$90v@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Summary: Benchmark of ET4000W32i Hercules Dynamite Pro 1MB Hi! I tested the Hercules Dynamite Pro VLB 1MB (thanks Gary!-) on a 50MHz VLB System with 16MB Ram. Dhrystones/s: 48387 VaxMIPS: 30.72 1024 800 x x 768 600 8BW 555 --------------- line: 1.15 0.55 arc: 1.19 0.49 fill: 1.09 0.41 tran: 1.51 1.19 comp: 0.92 0.46 up: 1.68 1.28 text: 1.04 0.39 win: 0.82 0.26 --------------- 1.17 0.63 Overall Performance is very similiar to the performance of the WINNER 1000 VLB 1MB I tested some weeks ago. But remeber, the Dynamite is build to use 2MB in interleave. But I tested the 1MB Card. 2MB could be faster. 1280x1024 isn't supported. Max RES is 1120x832x8BW (2MB??) didn't work for me! Have fun, Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: makto@cis.umassd.edu (Makoto Sadahiro) Subject: how can i install floppy drive to cube? Message-ID: <Cq0I71.4rx@umassd.edu> Keywords: floppy drive in cube Sender: usenet@umassd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 19:01:48 GMT hello, i am wondering if someone can help us. we are trying to install floppy drive in 030 cube(actualy, itis upgraded to 040 so there is connector for floppy drive). we got drive and cable which is supposed to work with it, but we have no idea how we can connect them. which connector should go in which direction? since we are using a cable which is supposed to be compatible, it does not have slit which tells you which direction the connector should fit on the bach of drive and connector on mother board... we do not have any documentation at all.....can anyone help? please... thank you.....makto@cis.umassd.edu
From: adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu (Alok K. Dhir) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1152x832 on #9GXE? Date: 18 May 1994 19:09:24 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2rdp54$bnu@umd5.umd.edu> Hello all - is it possible to run NS3.2/Intel with a #9GXE Level 12 VLB at the 1152x819x16 resolution? The drivers supply a 1152x819xBW:8 option, but I don't see why this card shouldn't be able to do 16 bits at this resolution. Can it be done? Thanks -- -------------------------------------___--------------------------------- | Al Dhir, Programmer Analyst /___\ UMCP Ag-Engineering Dept | | Internet: adhir@bigdipper.umd.edu (o o) (301) 405-1197 | ---------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-----------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: makto@cis.umassd.edu (Makoto Sadahiro) Subject: what is graphics capability of next? Message-ID: <Cq0K1p.5u7@umassd.edu> Keywords: whet is graphics capability of next? Sender: usenet@umassd.edu (USENET News System) Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 19:41:48 GMT hello. i am wondering if there is any good photo editing or painting software like photoshop on macintosh. i am thinking getting next for graphics work if trere are good software. also, what is graphics display capability on next? can it display 24 bit? i knwo this is silly question, but i dont know a lot about next. if next is good machine for graphics, i really like to get one since this was dream machine when i was smaller...thank you makto@cis.umassd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Message-ID: <espritCq0nzM.2AG@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:06:57 GMT I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the same folks? NOTE: I am talking about more than the drive unit itself. The case and the connectors and the ground look the same on both drives. -- ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds alanp@eng.sun.com (work) | a man can make his life a little longer and esprit@netcom.com (home) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: /etc/disktab entry for Pinnacle 1.3GB optical drive? Date: 18 May 1994 22:23:57 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2re4ht$bed@news.doit.wisc.edu> We just received a Pinnacle Micro, Sierra 1.3 GB optical hard drive and we are having difficulty getting cartridges to format with a unix filesystem. The drive works fine when attached to one of our macs and when we run Pinnacle's formatting program. But when we attach the drive to our Next Color Turbo, the auto-formatter fails to format the cartridge with a unix file system. I've been able to do a lowlevel format of the cartridge fine (sdform). But when I use the 'scsimodes' command the drive doesn't always give the same response. This makes me think that this drive doesn't support the scsi MODE SENSE command (which is probably why the autoformatter fails). Here are two consecutive 'scsimodes' commands to the drive moraine:19# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: PINNACLEOHD-1300 36138 bytes per sector 1280 sectors per track 0 tracks per cylinder 4798720 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) Host bad block handling 64536 alternate tracks per volume 637040 usable sectors on volume moraine:20# !! scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: PINNACLEOHD-1300 28672 bytes per sector 0 sectors per track 0 tracks per cylinder 4798720 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 1024 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 637040 usable sectors on volume I'm sure the the problem would be solved with an appropriate /etc/disktab entry, but I don't know the correct values to enter. I've called Pinnacle for the information (sectors/track, tracks/cylinder, cylinders/volume...) and I'm waiting for them to call me back. Has anyone configured a Pinnacle 1.3GB optical for a unix machine? Or has anyone configured a disktab for any of the new 1.3GB optical drives? Since they all conform to the ECMA-184 standard for 1.2GB (512 bytes/sector) and 1.3GB (1024 bytes/sector) optical cartridges, I'm sure this information is uniform across drive manufacturers. If I get a disktab entry that works I'll post it to all these groups. Thanks for any information. Jessica Hayden Dept. Chemistry University of Wisconsin - Madison hayden@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 18 May 1994 22:50:53 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2re64d$1rl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <espritCq0nzM.2AG@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: >I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it >look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the >same folks? >NOTE: I am talking about more than the drive unit itself. The case and the > connectors and the ground look the same on both drives. Yup, they do look awfully similar, but nope, the NeXT drive is equivalent to an Apple CD-150. (I'm pretty sure...oh, damn, there he goes again...) -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others "They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 18 May 1994 22:48:45 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <espritCq0nzM.2AG@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > same folks? > > NOTE: I am talking about more than the drive unit itself. The case > and the connectors and the ground look the same on both drives. Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 than the Apple CD300. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) Subject: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Message-ID: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Keywords: Diamond Viper, DEC XL, PAS 16 Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Arizona State University Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 16:08:27 GMT I've just received my new DEC XL 560. All has gone very well with installation and the machine performs very well, but there are 2 small problems that remain with video and sound. And considering the big $ we laid out for these systems, we expect them to work perfectly. The system is a standard DEC XL with 1 GB HD, 40 MB RAM, Viper video, onboard SCSI with talus driver, Intel etherexpress (tried a 3COM first, but traded because of poor performance on our mixed network), DEC 19" monitor, and PAS 16. The first problem is with the video. Display looks very good in 16 bit, 1152 x 900, but we notice 2 small 'defects.' First, there is a small wave running horizontally in the images very near the top of the screen (about 3mm wide and 1 mm from top of display) and second there are 2 faint black lines also running horizontally through the screen about 1/3 of the way from the top and about 1/3 of the way from the bottom (looks to be 1 pixel in with). None of the monitor adjustments affect either AND the 'defects' are exactly the same on an identical system that we have suggesting that it is not a hardware problem. The second problem is with sound and a PAS 16 that cuts out and repeats passages of sound like most other NSFIP systems that I've seen. The DEC is a PCI/ISA system, but with the talus driver, we are NOT using any other ISA board. The discussion that I've seen in this group suggested that most poeple expected the sound to work perfectly under these circustances. Any ideas why not? Any suggestions regarding these problems would be greatly appreciated. Brad -- Brad Kincaid BioApps Project Director Life Science Department Mesa Community College 1833 W. Southern Ave. Mesa, AZ 85202 kincaid@next.mc.maricopa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: HW for Solitaire? Message-ID: <Cq1DLt.EKq@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <Cpxurn.KAq@utstat.toronto.edu> <2rc16i$39f@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 06:20:16 GMT In article <2rc16i$39f@nyx10.cs.du.edu> lmccullo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) writes: [ ] > >>There's an excellent Solitaire game for the NeXT PC with really nice looking >>cards. I run it using a GUP VLB (2megs) on a 486DX-66/2. Something is wrong >>in the sense that I feel I have to drag the cards from one pile to another. >>Would getting a faster computer, or a faster graphics' card make Solitaire >>snappy? ... > >No, not that much snappier. A PCI Pentium w/ a Diamond Viper will only >be about 50% faster for graphics. Well that saves me a lot of money:) 50% just won't do. Is it the graphics card or the processor which is keeping the game sluggish? >Are you running version 2.1? I just submitted it to the archives not >more than a couple of weeks ago. I tried to pre-draw the cards to help >speed things up a bit, but I'm afraid you'll never have Window's kinda >snappy for our Solitaire without more coding than I have time to >dedicate. The good news is the next generation of HW shouldn't run >any slower. %^) Yes, 2.1 is what I am using and it is far better. Now since you really can't get any faster, then perhaps one way around this would be to have the cards move themselves via 2 mouse points. So if you want a 2 to move to a 3, you would click on the 2 and then the 3 and the 2 would leap over. The same would go with subpiles. As it is it's the dragging of the beuatiful cards which feels like lifting weights! Anyway, it's still a really nice game. >Michael McCulloch >michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!) >Huntsville, Alabama -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT printer on a Mac? Date: 19 May 1994 02:04:11 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <2rf6hr$bf@vesta.unm.edu> References: <lwallyci-060594010846@ramp02.onramp.net> In article <lwallyci-060594010846@ramp02.onramp.net>, Leslie Connally <lwallyci@onramp.net> wrote: >I'm a Mac person, and really don't know NeXT, but want to ask if it is >possible to make a NeXT/canon 11x17 color printer work on a Mac 030 or 040. >I think it is a question of system-extension-printer driver availability >and serial or parallel connection ("Power Print" is a serial to parallel >converter with drivers) I'm calling them tomorrow. >Please help if you can. >Sorry if i'm bothering yall here >(there is one available here low $ auction item (new)) The problem here is that the NeXT printer has no memery, meaning that you can't just send a data stream for it to deal with, --Aaron... -- amb78@unm.edu .
From: a5401gac@c1.edvz.univie.ac.at (Lucas Filz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Notebooks and NSFIP Date: 19 May 1994 09:22:06 GMT Organization: Vienna University Computer Center, Austria Message-ID: <2rfb3u$bfo@infosrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> -- ------------------------------------------------------- Lucas Filz Email: Lucas.Filz@serv.univie.ac.at Please give me any info regarding NS-compatible Notebooks. model, configuration, price, vendor, performance, compatibility, ...Are there models featuring a suspend/resume mode? How about >640x480 resolutions and color? Thank you, -Lucas-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Message-ID: <Cq1MMF.MKo@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:35:02 GMT In article <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) writes: > 3mm wide and 1 mm from top of display) and second there are 2 faint black > lines also running horizontally through the screen about 1/3 of the way > from the top and about 1/3 of the way from the bottom (looks to be 1 pixel > in with). None of the monitor adjustments affect either AND the 'defects' > are exactly the same on an identical system that we have suggesting that > it is not a hardware problem. The first "wave", I don't know... But the second seems normal if you have a trinitron monitor (DEC probably licenses the technology from Sony). The two lines are normal (I guess it's a kind of demagnetizer of some sort). I have two Sony 17" and one Philips 20" trinitron on different systems (Intel GX and NEC Pentium) and they all have the two black lines. > > The second problem is with sound and a PAS 16 that cuts out and repeats > passages of sound like most other NSFIP systems that I've seen. The DEC > is a PCI/ISA system, but with the talus driver, we are NOT using any other > ISA board. The discussion that I've seen in this group suggested that > most poeple expected the sound to work perfectly under these circustances. > Any ideas why not? I have no problems with the on board sound system on the Intel GX. On the NEC, I added a Pro Audio and I have a problem (but I don't really use sound)... Hope this helps, Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Hardware Geneva / Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: vermeer@imag.imag.fr (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) Subject: Best PCI graphic card for the price ? Message-ID: <1994May19.081247.15999@imag.fr> Sender: news@imag.fr Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 08:12:47 GMT Hello, What is the cheapest PCI graphic card which bring the most confort for the price? I think about cards with 2Mo of RAM and extensible to 4Mo. Alex.
From: amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recovering ROM passwd? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 19 May 1994 05:25:58 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <2rfic6$473@vesta.unm.edu> Summary: can't do anything when the machine doesn't boot... Keywords: ROM passwd black Does anyone know of a way to recover a ROM passwd on a black 040? Any help would be appreciated. The ROM is "1991 Rev 2.5 v66 M" I am running NeXTstep 3.2 Thanks, --Aaron... -- amb78@unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: HP Vectra VL2 machines Message-ID: <Cq1sDA.440@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 11:39:09 GMT The HP Vectra VL2 machines look quite nice. I would have thought that they will run NS out of the box, they say they come with a 1280x1024 VL graphics card, and given the HP relationship, I would have thought we'd be okay. Anyone think/know differently? -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kramer@fragile.termfrost.org (Mike Andrews) Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Message-ID: <Cq15zp.63E@fragile.termfrost.org> Organization: Terminal Frost, Springfield OH References: <espritCq0nzM.2AG@netcom.com> <2re64d$1rl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 03:35:49 GMT indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes: >esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: >>I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it >>look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the >>same folks? Yes -- Sony. But it's not the same Sony as the CD-300: >Yup, they do look awfully similar, but nope, the NeXT drive is equivalent to >an Apple CD-150. (I'm pretty sure...oh, damn, there he goes again...) I do know the NeXT drive is NOT a CD-300; the 300 is a double-speed photo-CD capable drive, and the NeXT drive is single speed. But I'm not sure that it's the same as a CD-150 though. Both are single speed Sony drives though, I think. If they aren't the same, they're close. (I can't speak from experience since I've got a Toshiba 3401 on my slab...) -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org -- kramer@vax.wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: Re: Intermittent SCSI and UART problems (black cube) Message-ID: <1994May19.023130.1334@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <CpxKtE.3yu@muaddib.isar.de> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 02:31:30 GMT In article <CpxKtE.3yu@muaddib.isar.de> mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) writes: > In article <1994May15.234627.10332@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> peter@barbakane (Piotr Twarecki) > writes: > | Hello, > | > | I have two intermittent hardware problems (again, I'm not sure if these > | are real problems) with my black cube: > | > | 1) Once in a while when the system is under heavy SCSI load (usually > | swapping does it, but I cannot reproduce this at will), at some point > | everything completely freezes up. The busy mouse pointer keeps spinning > | but no windows can be moved or activated. After approximately a minute, > | the system comes back, and the following message appears on the console: > | > | May 15 02:31:15 barbakane mach: sd0 (2,0): scsi_timer: timeout op:0x28 > | sd_state:0 scsi status:0x0 > | [...munch...] > Could you please tell me, if you have two drives. When this is the fact, perhaps > the two harddisk have problems working together. I had exactly the same problem > with a hitachi-hdk517 Harddisk running with a Seagate hooked to my cube via > externel scsi. I 've thrown the hitachi in the garbage box, bought a quantum > and everything works know. No more TimeOuts. :-). > > > -- > Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________ > Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de > 81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org > Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de Hi, in my case there is only one harddrive installed internally, that is a Quantum ProDrive 425S, so there is no possibility of hardware 'interference'. I'm really not sure what to make of it. I wonder if it is the drive, or if it could be the SCSI controller in the cube. BTW, there is nothing else on the SCSI bus... Thank you, Peter.
From: cartier@iispc2.unil.ch (Cartier Francois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP/PA working with a HP Model 700-710 ? Date: 19 May 1994 13:23:36 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <2rfp8o$mve@cisun2000.unil.ch> Anyone knows if NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP/PA will work with a HP Model 700 - 710 ? This system has: 24M Ram, a 450M hard disk and a 19 inch color monitor Francois Cartier Institut d'informatique Universite de Lausanne Next-Mail: cartier@iisnext1.unil.ch
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: 19 May 1994 14:52:09 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rfuep$34q@eps.rain.com> References: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> In article <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) writes: > I've just received my new DEC XL 560. All has gone very well with > installation and the machine performs very well, but there are 2 small > problems that remain with video and sound. And considering the big $ we > laid out for these systems, we expect them to work perfectly. > > The system is a standard DEC XL with 1 GB HD, 40 MB RAM, Viper video, > onboard SCSI with talus driver, Intel etherexpress (tried a 3COM first, > but traded because of poor performance on our mixed network), DEC 19" > monitor, and PAS 16. > > The first problem is with the video. Display looks very good in 16 bit, > 1152 x 900, but we notice 2 small 'defects.' First, there is a small wave I have the exact same machine.. But I am using a 17" Sony 17se. If you already found out, the two horizontall lines you see are normal. They are tension wires that Sony uses on all there Trinitron monitors. I think I have a little bump or wave on the top right part on my display to, but does not bother me, hardly noticable.. > > The second problem is with sound and a PAS 16 that cuts out and repeats > passages of sound like most other NSFIP systems that I've seen. The DEC > is a PCI/ISA system, but with the talus driver, we are NOT using any other I have a PAS 16 too.. try using a different dma irq setup, I'm using dma 3, irq 15 Works perfect for me.. But if you use high DMA like 5,6,7 you are going to have the problems you mentioned.. My only complaint on the whole system is the 1 gig drive supplied from DEC.. It seems very fast, but extremely noisy.. I had a DEC service guy come out and replace the drive but it was still very loud during w/r access. I must say though, the DEC service is very good. The service tech was out the next day after I placed the call with a new drive. Then he proceeded to try 3 other drives from DEC to see if they were all noisy.. Ends up they all were.. Do you notice the loud drive to?? -- Steven Kornreich steve@eps.rain.com
From: myip@wellfleet.com (Michael Yip) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Bad experience with Storage USA Date: 19 May 1994 15:29:29 GMT Organization: Wellfleet Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rg0kp$pur@paperboy.wellfleet.com> Hi there, I just want to warn those of you who are shopping around for a hard drive. I just had an extremely bad experience with a salesman named John (salesperson number 100012) from a company called Storage USA which I pick out from Computer Shopper. I started my inquiry about the availability of any Seagate 200MB SCSI hard drive. He indicated that they only have SCSI-2 and that the smallest Seagate SCSI-2 drive they have available is 3.5" 343MB 12ms for $359 and the next higher up is a 3.5" 456MB 12ms for $459. I specifically asked if a SCSI-2 drive will work with my Adaptec 1542 SCSI controller. He said yes, but slower. Since I already have a Maxtor drive on my 386, I asked for a comparable Maxtor drive. He indicated that they have one 3.5" 540MB 12ms Maxtor drive for $375. Naturally, I was very surprised. It seemed like a deal I cannot refuse. I asked him to repeat the Maxtor specification twice. And twice he mentioned that it is a 3.5" 540MB 12ms Maxtor drive for $375. So I ordered it. Just a moment ago I received my drive. Guess what? It was an IDE drive. My blood presure went through the roof and I called them right back and good old John answered the phone. He denied ever made any mistake and that was THE drive I had ordered yesterday. He denied ever engage in any SCSI type conversation and SCSI controller conversation. What? Am I stupid enough to order an IDE drive for my Adaptec 1542 SCSI controller? He said they have one available with 8.5ms for around $100 bucks more and said that he can ship it out today. He asked that I ship the existing drive back to him at my expense. Why the hell should I do that? At someone else mistakes? I left a voice mail at his manager office and so far no response. So if you are buying a hard drive from this company, make sure you record you conversation or ask for another person. Think about it, you should record the conversation in any case. --- Michael Yip Wellfleet Communications, Inc. Email: myip@wellfleet.com 2 Federal Street Voice: (508)436-3847 Billerica, MA 01821 FAX: (508)670-8760
From: mclaren@pinyon.libre.com (Tim Mclaren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to buy a DEC 5200S 2GB hard disc Date: 19 May 1994 02:34:02 -0700 Organization: Evergreen Communications Message-ID: <2rfbqa$nnh@pinyon.libre.com> References: <CppnzM.D4v@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Dominik Westner (westner@picasso) wrote: : Hi Netters, : may somebody point me to a source where I can buy a DEC 5200S hard disc. : I need to be able to buy it with master card, but just ship it within the USA. : Thanks for your help NCA Computer Products had this very drive advertised in the SJ Merc. recently (over the weekend) for $999. A pretty attractive price. They take credit cards. (408) 522-8672. : -- : Dominik Westner : "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" : ___________________________________________Willi, the painter : Dominik Westner : Muenchen-Germany : HOME: westner@guug.de [NeXTMail welcome] : UNI: westner@informatik.uni-muenchen.de [NeXTMail welcome] -- Tim McClarren mclaren@pinyon.libre.com Sierra Software Innovations (702)832-0300
From: elitman@proxima.com (Eric A. Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: External OD drive wanted Date: 19 May 1994 11:49:26 -0500 Organization: Proxima, Inc. Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9405191648.AA06746@proxima.com> I am in need of an external SCSI OD drive capable of reading NeXT MO disks. I would appreciarte the name of a vendor where I could buy this new. -Eric Litman
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT printer on a Mac? Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 12:20:51 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ehqt7XK00iV2A3kYoI@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2rf6hr$bf@vesta.unm.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-May-94 Re: NeXT printer on a Mac? by Aaron M. Brown@unm.edu > The problem here is that the NeXT printer has no memery, > meaning that you can't just send a data stream for it > to deal with, Umm, the NeXT printer has no memory, true. However, this means you can't send it *PostScript* directly; instead you have to send it a raw data stream. The NeXT itself does the rasterization.... -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 12:26:57 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ghqtBFu00iV2Q3kZJX@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 18-May-94 [intel] DEC XL very fast bu.. by Brad Kincaid@biology.mc. > The first problem is with the video. Display looks very good in 16 bit, > 1152 x 900, but we notice 2 small 'defects.' First, there is a small wave > running horizontally in the images very near the top of the screen (about > 3mm wide and 1 mm from top of display) and second there are 2 faint black > lines also running horizontally through the screen about 1/3 of the way > from the top and about 1/3 of the way from the bottom (looks to be 1 pixel > in with). None of the monitor adjustments affect either AND the 'defects' > are exactly the same on an identical system that we have suggesting that > it is not a hardware problem. The first 'defect' may be a real problem. The second is almost certainly an artifact of the thin wires present inside Trinitron picture tubes which provide structural support for the mesh. The thin black lines produced by these wires that result are normal. You might consider booting MS-DOS/Windows, and checking whether the first defect occurs at a similar resolution. The problem might lie in some interaction between your video card and the specific monitor you have. Good luck. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: daya@kripalu.com(Mark Kenny) Subject: Better 486 mice? Message-ID: <1994May18.154600.2764@psi.com!kripalu> Sender: daya@psi.com!kripalu Organization: Kripalu Center Date: Wed, 18 May 94 15:46:00 GMT I'm having ongoing problems with my serial mouse moving in jerks and crashing with NeXTSTEP on Intel. Does anyone have recommendations on which mouse serial or other to buy? Or is this just a fact of life? Mark daya@kripalu.com
From: jesse@mocha.ucsd.edu (Jesse D. Goldberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ethernet Problems Date: 18 May 1994 22:55:28 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <2re6d0$oj1@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: 3Com EtherLink III We are running NSI on a Dell 486 and we're connected to the Internet via the 3Com EtherLink III card. Most of the time, the machine works great and accessing the Internet is like a walk in the park However, once in a while (sometimes a couple of times a day) our connection just dies without warning, and we need to reboot the system to get it back. We were wondering a) Does anyone else experience this kind of problem? b) Is this a hardware issue with the card or perhaps a software problem with the etherlink2.config device driver? Thanks in advance for any assistance you all can offer.
From: klui@corp.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP/PA working with a HP Model 700-710 ? Date: 19 May 1994 20:43:26 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <2rgj1e$34f@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <2rfp8o$mve@cisun2000.unil.ch> In article <2rfp8o$mve@cisun2000.unil.ch>, Cartier Francois <cartier@iispc2.unil.ch> wrote: >Anyone knows if NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP/PA will work with a HP Model 700 - 710 ? > I believe NS/HPPA is dependent on the PA7100 CPU or better. If the 9000/710 has a PA7100 it should work; but I'm not in the hardware division so you need to confirm with your sales rep. My 9000/720 on my desk won't work because it runs on a PA-RISC1.1 chip and not a PA7100. Good luck, Ken -- Kenneth K.F. Lui, klui@corp.hp.com 3000 Hanover Street M/S 20BJ Corporate Financial Systems Palo Alto, CA 94304-1112 USA Core Application Technologies 1.415.857.3230 Fax 1.415.852.8026
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: 19 May 1994 21:31:32 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rglrkINNj0c@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> <2rfuep$34q@eps.rain.com> In article <2rfuep$34q@eps.rain.com>, steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: |> |> > |> > The second problem is with sound and a PAS 16 that cuts out and repeats |> > passages of sound like most other NSFIP systems that I've seen. The DEC |> > is a PCI/ISA system, but with the talus driver, we are NOT using any |> other |> I have a PAS 16 too.. try using a different dma irq setup, I'm using dma |> 3, irq 15 |> Works perfect for me.. But if you use high DMA like 5,6,7 you are going to |> have the problems you mentioned.. I don't have my pocket ref handy :-), but I seem to recall that the PAS-16 requires a 16-bit DMA channel for proper operation. Could this be the issue? In that case, we're really talking about two separate problems: the interaction between the Adaptec and the PAS, and the PAS's rather stringent DMA requirements. Also, some early Intel Pentium/PCI chipsets reputedly had DMA timing problems, although I don't know of anybody who's had problems with the PAS as a direct result (then again, the people I know who have the PAS on a Pentium/PCI system aren't running NS/I at all...) I _hate_ ISA! |> My only complaint on the whole system is the 1 gig drive supplied from |> DEC.. It seems very fast, but extremely noisy.. I had a DEC service guy |> come out and replace the drive but it was still very loud during w/r |> access. I must say though, the DEC service is very good. The service tech |> was out the next day after I placed the call with a new drive. Then he |> proceeded to try 3 other drives from DEC to see if they were all noisy.. |> Ends up they all were.. |> Do you notice the loud drive to?? |> |> -- |> Steven Kornreich |> steve@eps.rain.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP/PA working with a HP Model 700-710 ? Message-ID: <1994May19.213247.787@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <2rfp8o$mve@cisun2000.unil.ch> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 21:32:47 GMT In article <2rfp8o$mve@cisun2000.unil.ch> cartier@iispc2.unil.ch (Cartier Francois) writes: >>Anyone knows if NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP/PA will work with a HP Model 700 - 710 ? >> >>This system has: >>24M Ram, a 450M hard disk and a 19 inch color monitor >> According to NeXT (this is in some NeXTAnswer, I don't know which), NS/PA will only run on 712's with the built-in video, and the 24 bit 7x5 machines, or more precisely, the 715, 725, 735, and 755 with a single CRX24 display adapter. The 8 bit CRX display will not be supported, although I assume if you have a CR24Z or CRX48Z it will work, but I don't know for sure. Funny note here - The cost of upgrading an 8 bit CRX display to a 24 bit one (I think it's just a daughterboard) is more than the list price of the lowend complete system price of the 712/60... -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: nemiroal@bus.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CYRIX 486/40 CPU???? Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 14:34:00 Organization: College of Business, Oregon State University, Corvallis Message-ID: <nemiroal.134.000E918A@bus.orst.edu> Hi.. I think my first post bounced... so here is my second attempt. How well does NeXTSTEP run on a CYRIX 486/40 CPU and motherboard combo? does it run at all? I have read that it does.. if so, to what extent? thanks in advance! -Aleksander Nemirovsky Oregon State University
From: stanko@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Steven Stanko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 6360 chipset use for NSI Date: 19 May 1994 22:04:45 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <2rgnpt$vm@Times.Stanford.EDU> A few days ago, I read of a user running NSI on a computer with a SCSI adapter using the Adaptec 6360 chipset. Now, when I look at the current (5/9) NSI hardware compatibility guide, it states that support for the Adaptec 6x60 chipset is "Planned". Is it currently possible to run NSI with this SCSI controller and an existing driver? Is there a 1542 compatibility mode that the 6360 chipset supports? Any information would be greatly apprecitated. Thanks in advance, -steve (stanko@cs.stanford.edu)
From: Morgan P Hankins <mh7e+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need Video Recording Help Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 16:54:04 -0400 Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <khqx7gy00WB3EvSEtT@andrew.cmu.edu> I want to record the screen directly from the computer to a VCR. I have tried running a line from the video out on the next to the video in on the VCR but I cant seem to get a picture...please e-mail me any help... -morgan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: emstech@music.mcgill.ca (Alain Terriault -- EMS Technician) Subject: Bell Atlantic email address Message-ID: <1994May19.160752.4546@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 16:07:52 GMT Is there a e-mail address for Bell Atlantic ? thanks, -- Alain Terriault System Operator Music Faculty, Mcgill University Montreal, Canada Email: emstech@music.mcgill.ca
From: procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which Toner for NeXT Laser Printer? Date: 19 May 94 21:42:23 Organization: UPENN Computer Graphics Research Laboratory Distribution: comp Message-ID: <PROCOPIO.94May19214224@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> What type of toner cartridge does the NeXT Laser Printer use? I just bought one used (practically brand new) but w/o a toner cart. I know (I think...) that it uses some type of HP cart. but I don't know which. Please help! Thanks, Joe Procopio procopio@graphics.cis.upenn.edu procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu procopio@bambi.cis.uenn.edu
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need Video Recording Help Date: 20 May 1994 01:52:11 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2rh54b$ivb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <khqx7gy00WB3EvSEtT@andrew.cmu.edu> Morgan P Hankins <mh7e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >I want to record the screen directly from the computer to a VCR. I have tried >running a line from the video out on the next to the video in on the >VCR but I cant seem to get a picture...please e-mail me any help... OK, what hardware are you using? I assume you have a NeXTdimension, since it's not trivial to port a monitor signal to a standard VCR. I discovered that to record screen activity using ScreenScape, the demo in /NextDeveloper/Demos, you must set everything up (including the screen activity and the VCR in Record/Pause mode) beforehand, AND THEN LAUNCH ScreenScape. Otherwise I'd get merely goofy color ripples. I still don't grasp why, but the sequence is important. Tip: I use NeXTtv as a monitor to queue up the videotape, then set up as outlined above, then launch ScreenScape. One day when i grow up and learn programming I'm going to build my own video apps for the ND. God willing, I'll hire pros to build me media apps for earning a living :-) Steve -- Steve Weintz * EthnoGraphics a NeXTSTEP-based multimedia shop serving indy@jg.cso.uiuc.edu * (217) 328-4803 serving anthropologists and others "They were disappointed because the formidable writ of arrest, with symbolic flame-etched runes on a scroll of human skin, was now useless..." C. A. Smith
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DELL P60/90 Problems Solved Date: 20 May 1994 03:17:35 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2rha4f$7kc@news.mic.ucla.edu> Report on my earlier problem: It turns out that NS has problems dealing with IDE disks greater than 528MB. Because my disk was 540MB, I needed to change the disk configuration in the BIOS, which solved the problem. I am now running the #9GXE card at 1280*1024, 72Hz, without any problems. Rocksteady---but unfortunately 8-bit grey rather than color (and no anti-aliasing). As my earlier benchmarks reported, the Adaptec controller is slow, but I heard thru the grapevine that Talus is experimenting with add-on PCI boards. So, in about 4-8 weeks, I hope to solve this problem, too, by replacing the Adaptec with an NCR-based PCI SCSI card. Thanks also to my DELL rep, Tom Hartsell, for solving my problems. I still need to get the serial port to work, but that'll happen soon, too. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) Subject: disktab entry for Micropolis 2200A-IDE? Message-ID: <1994May20.040425.1163@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> Keywords: disktab,micropolis,ide Sender: news@hydra.acs.ttu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Texas Tech University Date: Fri, 20 May 94 04:04:25 GMT Can anybody point me to the appropriate disktab entry for the 2200A IDE fixed disk from Micropolis. Thanks, Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Message-ID: <1994May18.142914.218@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <HORNKVJM.94May13145101@banana.whitman.edu> Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 14:29:14 GMT In article <HORNKVJM.94May13145101@banana.whitman.edu> hornkvjm@banana.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) writes: > In article <2qu434$ehb@cosmos.nectech.com> mduggan@next1 (Michael C. Duggan) writes: > The miro 16si VLB/PCI video card for NS 3.2 is great, very low cost, > faster than Diamond Viper. Cost $250-295 US dollars. > > Supports up to 1152x864 at 71Hz non-interlaced in 16 bit color. > > Supports 1280x1024 at 61Hz in 8 bit gray scale. > > NXFActor 2.0 of 1.055 at 1024x768 16bit color 75Hz non-interlaced. I assume this result (NXFActor 2.0 of 1.055) is on a Pentium or DX/4... Please confirm. Thanks, Phil -- G. Philippe Menos gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.] Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Whats up with DayDream? Anyone have it? What do ya think? Date: 19 May 1994 23:57:47 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <2rhn1b$nob@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ambi@world.std.com (Michael S Amirault) Subject: Help needed installing NSFIP (can't find CD-ROM)! Message-ID: <Cq3Axv.H7K@world.std.com> Keywords: NSFIP, CD-ROM, Diamond Stealth, Zeos, Adaptec, Help! Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 07:17:55 GMT HELP! I don't know what to try next! I can't get my Zeos to recoginize the CD-ROM drive during NeXT installation. Here are the particulars: Zeos Pantera PCI/ISA Adaptec 1542CF SCSI Quantum 1GB drive SONY CDU-561 CD-ROM internal drive (formerly an external sun drive). The problem is pretty simple, the NeXTSTEP installation can't find the CD-ROM drive. I've used this same drive to install 3.1 and 3.2 on a black slab. Can anyone help? I'm desperate! :-( Also, does anyone know if a Diamond Stealth card will work? Zeos thought they were doing me a favor by automatically upgrading my Viper to a Stealth but I have a feeling it ain't going to work... Thanks, Mike ambi@world.std.com
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Better 486 mice? Date: 20 May 1994 12:47:39 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2ribhb$aeb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <1994May18.154600.2764@psi.com!kripalu> Mark Kenny (daya@kripalu.com) wrote: : I'm having ongoing problems with my serial mouse moving in : jerks and crashing with NeXTSTEP on Intel. Does anyone have : recommendations on which mouse serial or other to buy? Or is : this just a fact of life? From the traffic on my list, it looks like the Logitech BusMouse is the best way to go, it and the MS mouse are the only 2 options. Since I already had a MS v2.0 I am using it, but I also get a crash once in a while, and it jerks a litttle, but I'll live with it until I get up the gumption to get a Logitech (I hate the mouseman, yuck) Gary to subscribe mail: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu message text: sub nsi-homebrew <or> unsub nsi-homebrew a FAQ and archive/ftp site are in the works. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Re: Ethernet Problems Message-ID: <Cq35x2.1z0@nexusadmin.com> Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration References: <2re6d0$oj1@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 05:29:26 GMT Jesse D. Goldberg writes !> !> We are running NSI on a Dell 486 and we're connected to the Internet via !> the 3Com EtherLink III card. Most of the time, the machine works great !> and accessing the Internet is like a walk in the park However, once in a !> while (sometimes a couple of times a day) our connection just dies without !> warning, and we need to reboot the system to get it back. !> !> We were wondering !> a) Does anyone else experience this kind of problem? !> b) Is this a hardware issue with the card or perhaps a software !> problem with the etherlink2.config device driver? !> This might be related to the small 2KB buffer that the ElinkIII card has compared to the SMC Elite16 at 16KB and the Intel EtherExpress is even larger. You might try one of these other adapter cards and see if it makes a difference. -- David W. Fahrney =:-)
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Date: 20 May 1994 18:00:35 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2rits3$ib4@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <1994May18.142914.218@Princeton.EDU> My #9GXE L12, PCI, on a DELL P60/90 does 2.009594 in 1280*1024*8bit (72Hz) on NXFactor 2.0. > > In article <2qu434$ehb@cosmos.nectech.com> mduggan@next1 (Michael C. > Duggan) writes: > > The miro 16si VLB/PCI video card for NS 3.2 is great, very low > cost, > > faster than Diamond Viper. Cost $250-295 US dollars. > > > > Supports up to 1152x864 at 71Hz non-interlaced in 16 bit color. > > > > Supports 1280x1024 at 61Hz in 8 bit gray scale. > > > > NXFActor 2.0 of 1.055 at 1024x768 16bit color 75Hz > non-interlaced. Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 20 May 1994 18:08:16 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2riuag$hd8@convex.cc.uky.edu> References: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > same folks? > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > than the Apple CD300. > It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot, but when I use a real CD-150, I can't play Audio-CDs, I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference is a ROM...Haven't tried a CD-300...... -- John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced' soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 20 May 1994 18:08:40 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2riub8$hec@convex.cc.uky.edu> References: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > same folks? > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > than the Apple CD300. > It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot, but when I use a real CD-150, I can't play Audio-CDs, I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference is a ROM...Haven't tried a CD-300...... -- John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced' soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 20 May 1994 18:09:27 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2riucn$hfl@convex.cc.uky.edu> References: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > same folks? > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > than the Apple CD300. It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot, but when I use a real CD-150, I can't play Audio-CDs, I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference is a ROM...Haven't tried a CD-300...... -- John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced' soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 20 May 1994 18:10:13 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2riue5$hh0@convex.cc.uky.edu> References: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > same folks? > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > than the Apple CD300. It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot, but when I use a real CD-150, I can't play Audio-CDs, I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference is a ROM...Haven't tried a CD-300...... -- John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced' soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura (NeXT Mail OK )
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 20 May 1994 18:10:27 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2riuej$hhf@convex.cc.uky.edu> References: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > same folks? > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > than the Apple CD300. It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot, but when I use a real CD-150, I can't play Audio-CDs, I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference is a ROM...Haven't tried a CD-300...... -- John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced' soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura (NeXT Mail OK ) .
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 20 May 1994 18:11:56 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2riuhc$hji@convex.cc.uky.edu> References: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > same folks? > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > than the Apple CD300. It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot... But when I use a real CD-150, I can't play Audio CDs with the CDPlayer App or a little thing I wrote myself... anyone else tried a 150 and witnessed the no audio thing? I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference is a ROM... Haven't tried a CD-300...... -- John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced' soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura (NeXT Mail OK )
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Date: 20 May 1994 18:12:09 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computer Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2riuhp$hju@convex.cc.uky.edu> References: <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > same folks? > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > than the Apple CD300. It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot... But when I use a real CD-150, I can't play Audio CDs with the CDPlayer App or a little thing I wrote myself... anyone else tried a 150 and witnessed the no audio thing? I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference is a ROM... Haven't tried a CD-300...... -- John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced' soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura (NeXT Mail OK )
From: Olav Anderson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where can I get a SCSI488/N Date: 20 May 1994 18:31:18 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rivlm$ra@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Keywords: SCSI488/N Hi All, I'm planning to do some experiments and was wondering if anyone had any experience, or know where I can get a SCSI488/N. This is a IEEE interface plus software driver that enables the NeXT to control up 14 IEEE instruments. I called IOtech, Inc., but their "it's no longer in their catalog, but I will check" response didn't fill me with much hope. So, I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this at all. Thanks ___________________________________________________ B.Olav Anderson Autodidact NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course! Vancouver, B.C. "I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by a conscious endeavor." H.D.Thoreau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tsikes@netcom.com (Terry Sikes) Subject: Re: [Intel] Third party HD drivers Message-ID: <tsikesCq46Mt.482@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <HORNKVJM.94May11202325@newton.whitman.edu> <Cpr04G.HG@nexusadmin.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 18:42:29 GMT In article <Cpr04G.HG@nexusadmin.com>, David W. Fahrney <Dave@NexusAdmin.COM> wrote: >John Hornkvist writes >!> Hi! >!> >!> From what I have heard, you can install NeXTStep from an unsupported >!> SCSI-interface if you have the necessary driver on a floppy in the drive >!> during boot. >!> >!> Will it be necessary to have the floppy every time I reboot, or just >!> at the first install? >!> > >Just during the install. You will actually be acked for the driver three times >during installation. OK, speaking of this, is anyone out there running NeXTStep/i with an Ultrastor 34f VLB SCSI-2 controller? Could anyone point me in the right direction for drivers? Thanks... -- Terry Sikes == tsikes@netcom.com | All I want is a baseline 1/1/1 machine: Alternate address: tsikes@fatcity.com | 1000 MIPS, 1000 MB RAM, and 1000 GB HD. Also tlsikes@bix.com, tsikes@aol.com | All my opinions reflect my views only!| Is that too much to ask?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tsikes@netcom.com (Terry Sikes) Subject: Re: 64bit S3 chip Message-ID: <tsikesCq47E7.5yy@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <FZUST.17.00097EC9@clemsonsc.ncr.com> Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 18:58:54 GMT In article <FZUST.17.00097EC9@clemsonsc.ncr.com>, Zeus <FZUST@ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> wrote: >Is there a NeXTSTEP driver for the 64bit S3 chip, PCI? If so, where? I'm interested in this also. In particular is the Diamond Stealth 64 card supported? If not now, will it be? I called NeXT, but I got the (apparently usual) 'we can neither confirm nor deny' type of response... Thanks for any responses... -- Terry Sikes == tsikes@netcom.com | All I want is a baseline 1/1/1 machine: Alternate address: tsikes@fatcity.com | 1000 MIPS, 1000 MB RAM, and 1000 GB HD. Also tlsikes@bix.com, tsikes@aol.com | All my opinions reflect my views only!| Is that too much to ask?
From: williamh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (William P Harvill Jr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with MegaPixel 17-inch Date: 20 May 1994 20:15:15 GMT Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rj5ojINN6q0@uwm.edu> Originator: williamh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu I have a dead MegaPixel 17-inch color display that I need to get repaired or replaced. Does anyone know of a location to get repair info or service manual?? I am also looking for the correct vertical and horizontal frequencies. Any help would be appreciated. Please respond via e-mail. Thanks Bill williamh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu -- ............................................................................... | | | William Harvill University of Wis - Milwaukee Engineering Electronics Shop | | williamh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu +1 414 229 5172 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dave@NexusAdmin.COM(David W. Fahrney) Subject: Exabyte 8205 8mm Tape Drive and SafetyNet Message-ID: <Cq47L3.p2@nexusadmin.com> Keywords: Exabyte, SafetyNet Sender: dave@nexusadmin.com (David W. Fahrney) Organization: Nexus Administration Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 19:03:02 GMT Does anyone have experience with the Exabyte 8205 8mm Tape drive? Several peculiarities exist with my setup connecting this to a Intel box. At boot the drive reports itself as: EXAB ST0: 82058VQANXR1 06M0 The important thing being the ST0: device. I was under the impression that a Exabyte drive would use the /dev/rxt0 device. Here's the listing of the tape devices on the computer in question: manny:2# ls -agl /dev/*r?t? crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 1 May 18 16:26 /dev/nrst0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 3 May 18 16:26 /dev/nrxt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 0 May 18 16:26 /dev/rst0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 2 May 18 16:26 /dev/rxt0 I changed the minor device number of /dev/nrxt0 to that normally used for nrst0 as the following output shows: manny:5# ls -agl /dev/*rxt? crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 1 May 18 16:26 /dev/nrxt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 3 May 18 16:26 /dev/nrxt0.old crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 0 May 18 16:26 /dev/rxt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 8, 2 May 18 16:26 /dev/rxt0.old SafetyNet will now recognize the Exabyte 8205 drive at rxt0. Here's the output from the Exception Log in Debug mode for the Exabyte 8205 Drive: May 18 19:14:13 INFO: ExabyteIO find devices: Device /dev/nrxt0 vendorid: 'EXABYTE ' productid: 'EXB-82058VQANXR1'firmware version: '06M0 ' I added an entry in the SafetyNet.app/Exabyte.dim/ExabyteDevicesList file using the same number as the 8200 drive. SafetyNet then recognized the Exabyte 8205 drive. I would like to know what the different device numbers mean and how one knows which ones to use when creating a device file. The man page for mknod refers to knowing what is in a system source file conf.c. Obviously I don't have that at my disposal! Here's something else really confusing. I just looked at a different Intel box and noticed that the major and minor device numbers and dates for all the the tape devices are totall different from the other machine: crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 1 Oct 22 1993 /dev/nrst0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 9 Oct 22 1993 /dev/nrst1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 3 Oct 22 1993 /dev/nrxt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 11 Oct 22 1993 /dev/nrxt1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 0 Oct 22 1993 /dev/rst0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 8 Oct 22 1993 /dev/rst1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 2 Oct 22 1993 /dev/rxt0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root operator 34, 10 Oct 22 1993 /dev/rxt1 Would SafetyNet make new device files when it is installed or run? Please someone answer all or parts of this question. Email replies preferred, I'll gladly summarize. I have also searched FAQ's and NeXTanswers. -- David W. Fahrney =:-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) Subject: Re: Whats up with DayDream? Anyone have it? What do ya think? Message-ID: <1994May20.214650.9084@iitmax.iit.edu> Summary: Daydream seems great! Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center References: <2rhn1b$nob@spock.dis.cccd.edu> Date: Fri, 20 May 94 21:46:50 GMT Hello world, I just ordered Daydream on Monday afternoon by faxing QUIX and it arrived today. Took about a half hour to read the documentation and about a half hour to set everything up and feel comfortable pressing the "go" menu item. In about one minute, I was staring at the Mac Desktop. Well, things aren't interesting unless one runs some software, so I took Vellum off my Mac and installed it on my virtual Mac. Bada bing ... Vellum starts up nice and quick. I load a drawing I did 3 months ago. Everything seems to work great..... I haven't tried Daydream on my TurboColor yet to see how color performance is. But my two bit gray scale Mac is nice and snappy. In a nutshell, if you need intermittent Mac functionality at what seems to be Quadra speeds, I highly reccomend getting Daydream. Kudos to Quix, Chris Conley Institute of Design Chicago
From: procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP!!! unrecoverable disk crash while upgrading! Date: 20 May 94 21:58:41 Organization: UPENN Computer Graphics Research Laboratory Distribution: comp Message-ID: <PROCOPIO.94May20215841@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> HELP! My system crashed while upgrading from CD, and now the disk won't boot at all! I've been having problems with a quirky CD-ROM drive (pretty old) that I borrowed, and it locked up in the middle of a system upgrade. How can I reboot from the CD? It doesn't seem to like to CD-ROM drive |-{ The CD drive in question is made by Optical Access International and comes up as "MATSHITACD-ROM CR-5XX Rev 1.0b" during the system boot. As soon as it gets to this, it shows the CD label "NEXTSTEP_3.1" etc... then it says "waiting for drive to come ready...." then it dies! I can get into the ROM monitor, but thats it... HELP!!!!!!! JOE
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: 21 May 1994 03:08:35 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rjtvj$k9m@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) writes: > The system is a standard DEC XL with 1 GB HD, 40 MB RAM, Viper > video, onboard SCSI with talus driver, Intel etherexpress (tried > a 3COM first, but traded because of poor performance on our mixed > network), DEC 19" monitor, and PAS 16. > > The second problem is with sound and a PAS 16 that cuts out and > repeats passages of sound like most other NSFIP systems that I've > seen. The DEC is a PCI/ISA system, but with the talus driver, > we are NOT using any other ISA board. I believe the Intel EtherExpress board is an ISA board, so you do have another one. Or at least, *my* EtherExpress is ISA. I'm think I'm getting similar problems with sound (on a very similar configuration). My EtherExpress card isn't hooked up to any network yet though, so it's probably not the ethernet card anway. On the other hand, I haven't done much testing with mine yet. The sound might actually be OK. One thing I did notice was that photo CD's don't seem to work on the CD-ROM drive that DEC ships with the system. Everything else I've tried with the CD-ROM has worked about the way I expected, but it just spits out a photo CD if I try that. I don't know if it's the SCSI card, the Talus driver, the CD-ROM drive (a drawer- type, caddyless drive), or maybe something in NS/Intel itself. Has anyone else with the DECpc XL560 and the same SCSI setup tried to use photo CD's? In any case, so far I'm pretty happy with the machine. Works nice, looks nice, seems quite reasonable actually. Almost anti- climatic, as it's almost like my color NeXTstation except that it's faster and can do 32-bit color. In my case I went with an IBM 17P monitor. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: 21 May 1994 03:13:29 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rju8p$ke4@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2rfuep$34q@eps.rain.com> steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) writes: > > The second problem is with sound and a PAS 16 that cuts out > > and repeats passages of sound like most other NSFIP systems > > that I've seen. The DEC is a PCI/ISA system, but with the > > talus driver, we are NOT using any other... > > I have a PAS 16 too.. try using a different dma irq setup, I'm > using dma 3, irq 15. Works perfect for me... Hmm. I'll have to try that. I think I'm set up with IRQ 15 and DMA 6 or 7. > My only complaint on the whole system is the 1 gig drive supplied > from DEC.. It seems very fast, but extremely noisy.. I had a DEC > service guy come out and replace the drive but it was still very > loud during w/r access. Mine is a bit noisy too, but then I also have a Fujitsu drive hooked up external on my first NeXTstation, and that's noisier. The Fujitsu has worked quite well for many years, and this DEC drive has a multi-year warranty too, so I'm not overly concerned. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: biscm@info.isbiel.ch (Martin Bischoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem with EIZO T560i-T Date: 20 May 1994 11:31:36 GMT Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ri72o$bk3@vega.info.isbiel.ch> Hello, I have a very annoying problem with the monitor EIZO Flexscan T560i-T. It seems, that the settings of the monitor are locked (except Brightness and Contrast). Is there a possibility to lock/unlock the settings of this monitor? Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks for any help. Greetings, Martin.
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Source to the Viper (Weitek P9000) driver? Date: 21 May 1994 05:20:10 GMT Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc. Message-ID: <2rk5ma$jjc@aisun.aiinet.com> Keywords: Weitek Viper P9000 driver I just got a Diamond Viper VLB card (works great at 1152x900, 5:5:5). It doesn't seem to be running as fast as I expected. How do I know if it's being used as a simple flat frame buffer or if the P9000 is really jaming? Who wrote this driver? Is it possible to get the source? Will it really be damaged if I activate the 1600x1280? Would I just need to swap the Bt485 for the faster part? I'm getting an NXFactor 2.0 of 0.4979 John -- John Bly Milton IV jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:252-8544, w:798-8301 NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] Don't FLAME, inform!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Message-ID: <1994May20.201925.22330@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Keywords: Diampond Viper Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2rits3$ib4@news.mic.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 20:19:25 GMT In article <2rits3$ib4@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes: > > My #9GXE L12, PCI, on a DELL P60/90 does 2.009594 in 1280*1024*8bit (72Hz) > on NXFactor 2.0. > > > > In article <2qu434$ehb@cosmos.nectech.com> mduggan@next1 (Michael C. > > Duggan) writes: > > > The miro 16si VLB/PCI video card for NS 3.2 is great, very low > > cost, > > > faster than Diamond Viper. I was just talking to someone at Zeos about configuring a NextStep machine, and he informed me that they could no longer get the Diamond Viper -- he said the board has been "replaced" by the "Diamod Stealth64 PCI" board, which is a ?? 64-bit version of the viper?? Anyone know if this will work with the NextStep Viper driver? Thanks, Serge J. Goldstein Princeton University CIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Better 486 mice? In-Reply-To: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu's message of 20 May 1994 12:47:39 GMT To: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May20213214@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994May18.154600.2764@psi.com!kripalu> <2ribhb$aeb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 01:32:13 GMT In article <2ribhb$aeb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: Mark Kenny (daya@kripalu.com) wrote: : I'm having ongoing problems with my serial mouse moving in : jerks and crashing with NeXTSTEP on Intel. Does anyone have : recommendations on which mouse serial or other to buy? Or is : this just a fact of life? From the traffic on my list, it looks like the Logitech BusMouse is the best way to go, it and the MS mouse are the only 2 options. Since I already had a MS v2.0 I am using it, but I also get a crash once in a while, and it jerks a litttle, but I'll live with it until I get up the gumption to get a Logitech (I hate the mouseman, yuck) Forgive my ignorance on these matters, but does that mean that PS/2 style bus mice (such as e.g. used in the Dell Omniplex) won't work ? Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: UHOH: Nextcube OD broken? Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc. Date: 20 May 94 21:12:11 PDT Message-ID: <1994May20.211211.851@crash> When I try to insert an optical disk into my NeXTcube, it no longer takes it. Normally, a little motor would engage and the drive would be auto-inserted into the machine. Well, now I insert the disk and I can push in further than normal but then hit a solid wall, as it were. The OD drive mechanism doesn't "wake up" and accept any of my OD's. Is this fixable? I was kinda hoping my cube would last until NEXTSTEP for SPARC or NEXTSTEP for HP was shipping so I could gracefully retire my cube. Now I am not so sure what to do. Any suggestions would be welcome. - bd
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) Subject: Will NS/I 3.2 work on AST Bravo Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA Date: 20 May 94 21:14:40 PDT Message-ID: <1994May20.211440.1223@crash> Anyone know if NeXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 would work on an AST Bravo 486/66 LP machine? It's got built-in local bus video, not sure which chipset. Anyone out there tried it?
From: thom@crayfish.ucsd.edu (Thom Cleland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: NeXT 17" MP color monitors on AV Macs? Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware Date: 21 May 1994 05:32:46 GMT Organization: UCSD Biology Department Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2rk6du$nl3@network.ucsd.edu> Keywords: help So this could be the bonehead hardware-hacker question of the century, but it'd be worth it if it works... A local dealer is getting rid of NeXT Megapixel 17" color displays for $250 (for the N4001) and $300 (for the N4006, the ADB type). I'm planning on buying a Mac 660AV very soon. Do any hardware gurus out there have opinions re the (1) basic feasibility and/or (2) pinouts and related points and caveats in order to get the Mac to drive the NeXT monitor. Ups: The NeXT keyboard works on ADB Macs; in some areas there's a modicum of compatibility between Macs and NeXTs just based on some design principles. I doubt this will go too far. Downs: I understand that the NeXT displays operate at 80Hz or some similarly high frequency, and that this pushes the Mac's limits (actually I heard 'exceeds', but that wasn't with reference to AV or Power Macs). There would also be the problem of getting a software driver akin to the multiscan monitor resolution-switchers in order to pump out the video properly, I'd guess. Plus there's the basic pinout-remapping problem. Plus, I'd guess (though I don't know) that the MP display is not multiscanning. And on top of all of that, there's all those extra signals flowing through NeXT monitors (sound, keyboard) which might need to be appropriately dealt with-- the AV Macs have monitor ports for video+sound+ADB signals which might be mappable onto the NeXT pins, but only the video needs to work for me to be happy. Basically, does anyone have authoritative info regarding if and how this is feasible? I'm not scared of constructing cables or relatively simple hardware hacking, but I start to get out of my league when opening monitors (though I could get some help) and I don't really want to void my Mac warranty by opening the case, at least during the burn-in period. Then there's the software issue. Any information would be greatly (!) appreciated. Please email me at the address below; if anybody else in the world cares about this problem I'd be happy to summarize to the net. Thanks again! -- Thom Cleland tcleland@ucsd.edu -- _________________ Thom Cleland \ We shall see first the small and then the greater world; tcleland@ucsd.edu \ a syllabus of revel such as you have never seen! 619/534-3954 \_________________________________________Mephistopheles
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP!!! unrecoverable disk crash while upgrading! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 20 May 1994 23:30:02 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Distribution: comp Message-ID: <2rk9pa$drf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <PROCOPIO.94May20215841@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> Joseph L. Procopio (procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu) wrote: : HELP! : My system crashed while upgrading from CD, and now the disk won't : boot at all! :How can I reboot from the CD? It doesn't seem to like to CD-ROM drive |-{ Check out the Release notes that came with the 3.0 upgrade. Page 13 talks about installing the essentials. Just don't initialize the drive that you're upgrading. I wouldn't think your problem is the cdrom drive, but I guess it's possible. If you are able perhaps you should get ahold of the NeXT cdrom drive. Good Luck. -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky) Subject: Graphic Cards and monitors... Message-ID: <dgursky.769468759@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 21:19:19 GMT Two questions on video cards and monitors for NEXTSTEP for Intel. I want to put together a NeXT system at home. I'm not particularly interested in a fast machine at this time -- today's $5,000 90MHz will probably be $1,800 in a year and $1,000 in two years. I am interested in screen with alot of real estate. I vaguely recall there is one graphics card that has a NEXTSTEP driver that can drive a monitor at 1600 x 1200 or thereabouts. Whose card is it and what are the opinions about this card? Also, what bit depth can it be driven at (16 bit or 32 bit)? The companion question is what is a good monitor to attach it to? Clearly a 16" or 17" monitor will result in too small an image at 1600 x 1200. Thanks in advance... -- David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted Synex, inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org 8601 Georgia Avenue voice: ............. (301) 608-2144 Silver Spring, MD 20917 fax: ............. (301) 495-3036
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Making a moto server out of an old '030 cube MB Date: 21 May 1994 09:16:11 GMT Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc. Message-ID: <2rkjgr$leq@aisun.aiinet.com> Keywords: cube MB homebrew I am fairly new to NeXT, currently only white, never black. I bought an '030 cube mother board, now I want to get to work turning it into a headless motorola compute, sound I/O and disk server. Please help me locating these things: 1. Lists of things I'm going to need. 2. Lists of people who have done this that I should talk to. 3. Lists of what software I still won't be able to use. 4. Connector pinouts and compatabilities (SCSI is just like a...) 5. Cheap tricks to get the machine up (building disks on other NeXTs) 6. CHEAP! cube stuff you could sell me to make all this easier (manuals, etc.) 7. Reasons why I should turn the board into a cool wall clock and forget it. John -- John Bly Milton IV jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:252-8544, w:798-8301 NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] Don't FLAME, inform!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: NeXT's WSS Driver Message-ID: <Cq5A4u.A0J@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 08:55:42 GMT The NeXT WSS driver appears to be looking for some value that is generated by the WSS card. Now, there are many WSS compatible cards, and one in particular which is far nicer than the WSS card (which is not an exciting audio card). Could someone please indicate to me what NeXT is using to identify a board as being a WSS board? Thank's,...Philip -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problem with EIZO T560i-T Date: 21 May 1994 08:03:03 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May21090303@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2ri72o$bk3@vega.info.isbiel.ch> To: biscm@info.isbiel.ch (Martin Bischoff) In-reply-to: biscm@info.isbiel.ch's message of 20 May 1994 11:31:36 GMT <biscm@info.isbiel.ch> writes: >Hello, >I have a very annoying problem with the monitor EIZO Flexscan T560i-T. It seems, that the settings of the monitor are locked (except Brightness and Contrast). >Is there a possibility to lock/unlock the settings of this monitor? >Can anyone tell me how to do this? I use the same monitor and I've not noticed this problem... Are you pressing the button, then adjusting and then pressing enter? For the Americans this monitor is effectively the same as the Nano series so you guys might be able to help also. -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problem with EIZO T560i-T Date: 21 May 1994 12:33:49 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <2rkv3d$spl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2ri72o$bk3@vega.info.isbiel.ch> <ROBERT.94May21090303@steffi.demon.co.uk> In article <ROBERT.94May21090303@steffi.demon.co.uk>, Robert Nicholson <robert@steffi.demon.co.uk> wrote: ><biscm@info.isbiel.ch> writes: > >>Hello, >>I have a very annoying problem with the monitor EIZO Flexscan T560i-T. It seems, that the settings of the monitor are locked (except Brightness and Contrast). > >>Is there a possibility to lock/unlock the settings of this monitor? > >>Can anyone tell me how to do this? > >I use the same monitor and I've not noticed this problem... > >Are you pressing the button, then adjusting and then pressing enter? > >For the Americans this monitor is effectively the same as the Nano >series so you guys might be able to help also. >-- > "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" > (ASCII for text only messages) I'm not sure what is meant by "locked" settings. To adjust a Nanao Flexscan F560-i W, you push the button for the parameter you wish to adjust, adjust using the one dial at right, and save the setting by pushing the Enter button to immediate left of Enter dial. I don't know of any way to lock settings. They're saved until you adjust and save new settings. Robert de Lucca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Problem with EIZO T560i-T Message-ID: <Cq5Kwt.BMp@demon.co.uk> Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration) Organization: Demon Internet References: <2ri72o$bk3@vega.info.isbiel.ch> Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 12:48:28 GMT In article <2ri72o$bk3@vega.info.isbiel.ch> biscm@info.isbiel.ch (Martin Bischoff) writes: > Hello, > > I have a very annoying problem with the monitor EIZO Flexscan T560i-T. It seems, that the settings of the monitor are locked (except Brightness and Contrast). > > Is there a possibility to lock/unlock the settings of this monitor? > > Can anyone tell me how to do this? > We had the guys from EIZO over here demonstrating their products and they showed us how you could lock/unlock the settings. I watched but did not bother to note which two buttons they held down. If you have the original doco its mentioned in there. If not their tech support department will answer the question. In the UK they are on 0483 757118 -- Regards David Knight FFC Software and Systems Limited 351 London Road Phone: +44 (0)702 551010 Hadleigh Fax: +44 (0)702 551515 Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Virtual mem. never get de-allocated!!! Message-ID: <1994May19.101143.4374@gamelan.sh.sub.de> Sender: thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <2r73ei$sal@wea.eel.ufl.edu> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 10:11:43 GMT Yes. The famous NeXTBug (tm) of ever growing swapfiles is not seen as serious by NeXT despite millions of bug reports. It seems that their position is "buy bigger disks and more memory". -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke thomas@gamelan.sh.sub.de Brooks's Law: Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: 21 May 1994 17:00:06 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rlemm$1og@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> <2rjtvj$k9m@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <2rjtvj$k9m@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > >One thing I did notice was that photo CD's don't seem to work on >the CD-ROM drive that DEC ships with the system. Everything else >I've tried with the CD-ROM has worked about the way I expected, >but it just spits out a photo CD if I try that. I don't know if >it's the SCSI card, the Talus driver, the CD-ROM drive (a drawer- >type, caddyless drive), or maybe something in NS/Intel itself. > >Has anyone else with the DECpc XL560 and the same SCSI setup >tried to use photo CD's? > You need to XAmode program available on the internet sites. The DEC uses the Toshiba 4401 drive, which is similar to the 3401 without a caddy. I was having the same problems with my Toshiba 3401, but everything works great after putting XAmode in my rc.local. Varun
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Better 486 mice? Date: 21 May 1994 17:01:35 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2rlepf$1oj@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1994May18.154600.2764@psi.com!kripalu> <2ribhb$aeb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <CEDMAN.94May20213214@capitalist.princeton.edu> In article <CEDMAN.94May20213214@capitalist.princeton.edu>, Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote: >In article <2ribhb$aeb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: > Mark Kenny (daya@kripalu.com) wrote: > : I'm having ongoing problems with my serial mouse moving in > : jerks and crashing with NeXTSTEP on Intel. Does anyone have > : recommendations on which mouse serial or other to buy? Or is > : this just a fact of life? > > From the traffic on my list, it looks like the Logitech BusMouse is the best > way to go, it and the MS mouse are the only 2 options. Since I already had > a MS v2.0 I am using it, but I also get a crash once in a while, and it > jerks a litttle, but I'll live with it until I get up the gumption to get a > Logitech (I hate the mouseman, yuck) > >Forgive my ignorance on these matters, but does that mean that PS/2 >style bus mice (such as e.g. used in the Dell Omniplex) won't work ? > I have a MS v2.0 PS/2 mouse on my system, and it works great in NEXTSTEP. It's much better than the Logitech mouse, in my opinion. Varun
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problem with EIZO T560i-T Date: 21 May 1994 16:21:13 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Message-ID: <ROBERT.94May21172113@steffi.demon.co.uk> References: <2ri72o$bk3@vega.info.isbiel.ch> <Cq5Kwt.BMp@demon.co.uk> To: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk In-reply-to: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk's message of Sat, 21 May 1994 12:48:28 GMT <david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk> writes: >In article <2ri72o$bk3@vega.info.isbiel.ch> biscm@info.isbiel.ch >(Martin Bischoff) writes: >>Hello, >> >>I have a very annoying problem with the monitor EIZO Flexscan >T560i-T. It seems, that the settings of the monitor are locked >(except Brightness and Contrast). >> >>Is there a possibility to lock/unlock the settings of this monitor? >> >>Can anyone tell me how to do this? >> >We had the guys from EIZO over here demonstrating their products and >they showed us how you could lock/unlock the settings. I watched but >did not bother to note which two buttons they held down. If you have >the original doco its mentioned in there. If not their tech support >department will answer the question. In the UK they are on 0483 >757118 Ok here I am EIZO manual in hand... 1. To recall factory set data push V.STAT and the Brightness buttons.. hold for minimum of 2 seconds. 2. To lock/Unlock If you push the V.STAT and the Side Pin Adj buttons at the same time and hold for more than 2 seconds, no adjustment items will be controlled except the brightness. When you need to adjust all itmes, push them at the same time and hold for more than 2 seconds again. *The Side Pin Adj button is the one marked "blue" (4th from the left) -- "Emacs isn't pretty. It's functional!" (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca Subject: Fastest Ethernet Card for Intel? Message-ID: <1994May20.214324.5706@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head) Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 21:43:24 GMT I'm looking for the fastest implementation of ethernet for Intel computers. We're currently using Intel Ether Express (16bit) and find it to be much slower compared to the good old black hardware. Does a VESA local bus ethernet card exist? thanks in advance. --brad -- Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA
From: Matthias Imhof <gondwana@basalt.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cheapest configuration to run nextstep on intel? Date: 21 May 1994 18:39:19 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2rlkgn$7f4@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> what is the cheapest machine/configuration using an intel processor nextstep runs on? matthias ------ *************************************************************************** * Matthias G.Imhof phone: (617) 253 7835 * * MIT Earth Resource Lab E34/370 fax: (617) 253 6385 * * 42 Carlton St * * Cambridge MA 02142-1324 email: mgi@erl.mit.edu * * There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark * ***************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jscoggin@netcom.com (Jerry Scoggins) Subject: Re: Recovering ROM passwd? Message-ID: <jscogginCq649x.31I@netcom.com> Keywords: ROM passwd black Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <2rfic6$473@vesta.unm.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 19:46:45 GMT amb78@unm.edu (Aaron M. Brown) sayz: > > Does anyone know of a way to recover a ROM passwd on a >black 040? Any help would be appreciated. > > The ROM is "1991 Rev 2.5 v66 M" > I am running NeXTstep 3.2 > > Thanks, > --Aaron... >-- >amb78@unm.edu I think someone said this was in the NeXT Answers. Sorry, I don't have them here to check. Jerry
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: cheapest configuration to run nextstep on intel? Date: Sat, 21 May 94 16:44:31 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <Bs1uV33.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2rlkgn$7f4@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Best price/performance is the eCe_4100 Series with Wingine Video and VLB Bus SCSI. You can get our info off of the NeXTSTEP Product server at ns-products@digifix.com: You can get all the latest by sending email to : ns-products@digifix.com and include the words eCesys.ps somewhere in the body of the message.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) Subject: Does anybody have comments on IBM hard drives for a Station ? Message-ID: <Cq66IH.BK0@acsu.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: UB Distribution: usa Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 20:35:04 GMT
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: 22 May 1994 00:07:43 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rm7og$p3t@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2rju8p$ke4@usenet.rpi.edu> steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes: > kincaid@biology.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid) writes: > > The second problem is with sound and a PAS 16 that cuts out > > and repeats passages of sound like most other NSFIP systems > > that I've seen. The DEC is a PCI/ISA system, but with the > > talus driver, we are NOT using any other... > > I have a PAS 16 too.. try using a different dma irq setup, > I'm using dma 3, irq 15. Works perfect for me... I've tried this, and it does indeed cause the audio card to work much better on my DEC XL system. I had tried it with DMA 6 and IRQ 15, and it worked but not very well. Thanks! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems Date: 22 May 1994 00:19:15 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rm8e3$pbf@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <2rlemm$1og@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes: > > Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > >One thing I did notice was that photo CD's don't seem to work on > >the CD-ROM drive that DEC ships with the system. Everything else > >I've tried with the CD-ROM has worked about the way I expected, > >but it just spits out a photo CD if I try that. > > > >Has anyone else with the DECpc XL560 and the same SCSI setup > >tried to use photo CD's? > > You need to XAmode program available on the internet sites. The > DEC uses the Toshiba 4401 drive, which is similar to the 3401 > without a caddy. > > I was having the same problems with my Toshiba 3401, but everything > works great after putting XAmode in my rc.local. I was not able to find XAmode on cs.orst.edu, sonata.cc.purdue.edu, or ftp.next.com. Someone was kind enough to email this to me, but I was wondering what FTP sites it was available at... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@BITart.sub.org (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: [intel] DEC XL very fast but problems (XAmode) Message-ID: <Cq6orA.142@BITart.sub.org> Sender: usenet@BITart.sub.org Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <2rm8e3$pbf@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 03:09:10 GMT In article <2rm8e3$pbf@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > [munch] > I was not able to find XAmode on cs.orst.edu, sonata.cc.purdue.edu, > or ftp.next.com. Someone was kind enough to email this to me, but > I was wondering what FTP sites it was available at... > It was there... I'll put a new version on the net on sunday. Gerd
From: owrede@khm.Uni-Koeln.DE (Oliver Wrede) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: gettydef setup for 8N1 Date: 19 May 1994 21:07:55 GMT Organization: KHM Cologne Sender: owrede@Wallace.khm.Uni-Koeln.DE (Oliver Wrede) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rgkfbINN1ttk@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> -- Hello there, My Shell is running with 7E1 over the serial port A on my Intel based Next. How can I get it to 8N1? OW . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . oliver_wrede@p22.flokiste.fido.de . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
From: rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch (Ralph Michael Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is Buslogic BT445S fast? Date: 22 May 1994 13:50:51 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2rnnvr$ln@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Hi everybody! I looking for a SCSI Controller for NextStep for Intels. The Buslogic BT445S VL seems to be a good choice. - What about the speed? - Are there different revisions - not compatible with NS 3.2? - Did anyone try the Adaptecs 2742 EISA or 2842 Localbus? Thanks for any comments Ralph (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: olebv@nextstat2.dhhalden.no (Ole Bredesen-Vestby) Subject: NeXT Dimensions Card Message-ID: <1994May22.163335.3638@dhhalden.no> Sender: news@dhhalden.no (Network News User) Organization: Ostfold College Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 16:33:35 GMT We have a NeXT Dimensions Cube, but the Dimensions card is busted. Would someone help with information on cable pinout and what sort of monitor we can use off the motherboard? - Ole Bredesen-Vestby
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Date: 22 May 1994 22:51:15 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2ronl3INNrdc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <2rits3$ib4@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1994May20.201925.22330@Princeton.EDU> Keywords: Diampond Viper In article <1994May20.201925.22330@Princeton.EDU>, serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU writes: |> |> I was just talking to someone at Zeos about configuring a NextStep machine, |>and he informed me that they could no longer get the Diamond Viper -- he said |>the board has been "replaced" by the "Diamod Stealth64 PCI" board, which is a |> ?? 64-bit version of the viper?? Anyone know if this will work with the |> NextStep Viper driver? The Stealth 64 uses either the S3-864 or the S3-964 (I think it's the 964). The Viper uses the Weitek P9000. If any driver has a prayer of working with the Stealth 64 it'll be one of the S3 drivers. I really, really doubt it, though. |> |> Thanks, |> Serge J. Goldstein |> Princeton University CIT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Subject: Faking root mount entries ... ? Message-ID: <Cq7M3t.29B@galileo.pr.net.ch> Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 15:09:29 GMT Hi I write for one that have a NeXTStation Turbo color, without modem connection. He has some hardware problem... When he power on his workstation, the first panel with "Testing System" arrive, just for some second, followed by the "Rom Monitor" (also for some second) and by a window titled "NeXT Mach Operating System". In this window appears all the controls the workstation do, including the message "Faking root mount entries" (what does this mean ?). After a while, this window desappear, followed by the login panel. Can someone tell us why is the "Rom Monitor" called, where is the problem ? If you need more information, ask me what do you exactly need. Thank you for any information ! Stefano -- Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064 NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sja@world.std.com (Stuart J Adams) Subject: How to use Next 21" monitor on a PC ??? Message-ID: <Cq8K1s.7J0@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 03:22:40 GMT Is there a way to use the 21" Color monitor on my Next cube on a PC running Windows ??? I assume I would need to by a special VGA card which was capable of running the Next fixed freq. montior. Thanks, Stuart Adams sja@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: gettydef setup for 8N1 Message-ID: <Cq8v39.Bu1@muaddib.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <2rgkfbINN1ttk@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 07:21:08 GMT In article <2rgkfbINN1ttk@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> owrede@khm.Uni-Koeln.DE (Oliver Wrede) writes: | | -- | | Hello there, | | My Shell is running with 7E1 over the serial port A on my Intel | based Next. How can I get it to 8N1? | | OW | | | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de . . . . . . . | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . oliver_wrede@p22.flokiste.fido.de . | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I made that with for my dial-in access. Should work with your Terminal as well. change to /etc and edit the following files. /etc/gettytab # # The default gettytab entry, used to set defaults for all other # entries, and in cases where getty is called with no table name # default:\ :p8:zp:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:\ :hn=khm:tt=vt100:er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :sp#9600: # # Fixed speed entries ... h|callin:\ :zp:p8:sp#9600:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach(%t)\r\n\r\n\r: ------------------------------------------------- /etc/ttys ... ttyda "/usr/etc/getty callin" vt100 on -- Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________ Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de 81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Date: Mon, 23 May 94 02:37:56 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <JkzvOgE.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2rits3$ib4@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1994May20.201925.22330@Princeton.EDU> Our understanding is that the Viper is no longer in production. I suspect the DS64 is based on the Weitek 9100( Viper was 9000). We could not get the drivers to work with the 9100( that is the NeXT Viper driver). The Weitek 9100 is fast under NSFIP now that we've got it up and running.
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the best Graphic Cards for the price and NS? Date: Mon, 23 May 94 02:39:54 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <BGzPW8C.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2rits3$ib4@news.mic.ucla.edu> <1994May20.201925.22330@Princeton.EDU> <2ronl3INNrdc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Whoops, I stand corrected. I guess it is the S3-964.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet Date: 23 May 1994 02:40:32 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2rpj50$lju@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and I'll be moving the entire NEXTSTEP Third Party Catalog contents in as soon as they become available. Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. Comp.Sys.Next.Announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well. This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. Comp.Sys.Next.Misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here. 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Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. Comp.Object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: pat@biocat1.iit.edu (pathikrit bandyopadhyay) Subject: Hard drive question Message-ID: <1994May23.135755.6323@iitmax.iit.edu> Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News) Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Mon, 23 May 94 13:57:55 GMT I recently added a SCSI hard drive to our NeXT. It works ok but it shows up as a separate drive with no protections what so ever. The NeXT network and sys-admin manual says to include that disk in /etc/fstab. If I do that all hell breaks loose. While booting the monitor window comes up with messages scrolling at light speed. The only thing that works at that point (that I could find is logout. That completes booting and lets me login) The questions I have : 1) can I configure this SCSI as an integral part of the boot disk (so that the boot disk appears as a single 1000 meg disk instead of two disks with 500 megs ? 2) if the answer to 1 is no, what should I put in fstab to have write protection on the second disk I followed the directions in the man pages, did not seem to work. 3) can I move the user accounts onto the second SCSI disk ? I tried that by moving user accounts to that disk and making links using ln, did not work to well. any help will bi highly appreciated. pathikrit
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP 712/60 Gecko SCSI benchmarks and question Date: 23 May 1994 18:14:58 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rqrr2$kpm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Bonnie results for HP712/60 (HP-UX 9.03) with 64 MB RAM, 1 GB HP internal disk: -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 200 1556 96.3 3000 35.1 1101 21.3 1321 95.9 2410 29.2 56.4 9.1 200 1585 98.7 3046 37.8 1109 22.6 1295 94.5 2419 30.7 56.6 8.8 300 1563 97.7 2669 32.6 1147 23.6 1310 95.1 2492 30.6 48.7 8.9 300 1580 97.7 2721 33.0 1154 23.4 1325 95.9 2530 31.1 49.1 8.7 These results imply the disk is SCSI II Fast, yet the spec sheet for this system does not list it as Fast-capable. Any ideas? -- Nathan Janette Voice: 203 432 5065 Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923 Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: patel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Umesh H Patel) Subject: Window Server Problem Message-ID: <Cq9nzw.46u@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> Sender: news@noose.ecn.purdue.edu (USENET news) Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 17:45:32 GMT I have a big problem with my NeXT cube running 3.0. It is not bringing up the login window. I tried booting off an od and I still got the same problem. When checking /usr/adm/messages , the error message that appears says loginwindow[148] Cannot find window server port Has anybody else had this problem? Are there any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks, Umesh Patel patel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hgw@julia.math.ucla.edu (Harold Wong) Subject: Broken printer Message-ID: <1994May23.213939.19065@math.ucla.edu> Sender: news@math.ucla.edu Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 23 May 94 21:39:39 GMT Greetings, I have a NeXT B/W laser printer that was plugged into a 220V power source while it was still set on 117V. Can anyone suggest a place that is willing to do the repair without charging $400 flat? Thanks. Harold
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu (John L. Burke) Subject: Type of SIMMS needed for a NeXTStation Message-ID: <1994May23.224240.8550@serval.net.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Washington State University Distribution: na Date: Mon, 23 May 94 22:42:40 GMT I need to know what type of SIMMS I need to put into a NeXTStation. What sort of physical characteristics apply to this RAM? Speed, bits, etc. Anybody have any good sources for buying memory? Thanks... -- ********************************************************************* * John Burke * jburke@bodacious.csc.wsu.edu * * Washington State University * NeXTStation Mono * * Systems & Computing * NeXTMail Welcome! * *********************************************************************
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 220V Date: 24 May 1994 00:37:33 GMT Organization: Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <MAGNUS.94May23173734@fisher.Stanford.EDU> Hi, I need to move some equipment to Scotland. Could someone tell me if the following equipment will run under 220V as well as the 110V used in the U.S? 1.) Tecor 525 external hd. 2.) NeXT CD-ROM Thanks, -Magnus -- Magnus Nordborg magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail welcome, PGP key via finger) Department of Biological Sciences Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-5020 +1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec AMM-1570 Date: 24 May 1994 09:12:40 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2rsge8$b8q@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hi! Today I read an ad, showing the new AMM-1570 Kit form adaptec. It's an SCSI audiomachine. - 16bit fast-scsi-2 - EZ-scsi - 16bit audio - EZ-audio - MS Sound System 2.0 - ext. mikrophone There also exists an AMM-1572 Kit (additional Floppy Disk Connectors). Seems to be a 1542 with additional MSSound System on board. Has somebody tried this card with the adaptec and the MSWSoundSystem drivers? Perhaps this is a solution to the sound problems with the adaptec cards! Let me know, Michael
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sources of memory for NeXTStation Date: 24 May 1994 16:05:13 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <2rt8jp$qgv@masala.cc.uh.edu> We have a NeXTStation with 8 simm slots and the faculty member who ownes the machine wants to upgrade - currently running NS3.2 with 8M :-(. Since we need to add memory in groups of 4, we need a source for 4 - 4M simms. What are the current sources and prices? Any offer discounts for Educational Institutions? Thanks! -- Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK) The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions) NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<< "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: $400 for cpu/mem/video ? Date: 24 May 94 11:06:58 Organization: Computing Research Lab Message-ID: <ZHAO.94May24110658@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> I have got one intel+NS/fip running and thought about getting another one. If I have limited budget and want fast display, which part in the system should be focused on? If I cut the memory from 32MB to 24MB, 8MB => $400, and spend the $400 to get a more Super graphics accelerator, e.g. $300(ATI)+$400 = $700. What kind of graphics card I can get for $700 ?! If I spend the $400 on upgrading the CPU from 486 to pentium, will I het faster display? So, the question is: If I just care about the display and not really other performance of the system(of course, you cannot have low-end parts fot NeXT, they wouldn't work :-), what is the best way to spend $400, on CPU or MEM or graphics board or something else? ZZ
From: johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu (John B. Friedman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info on Austin Laptop Date: 24 May 1994 19:10:31 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2rtjf7$4m0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Has anyone had experience of Austin 486 66MZ laptop, sells here for 2300 with 2 PMICIA slots, 340 HD, 8 MB ram active matrix mono as far as mounting NS on it? Thanks.J.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Doug Moore Subject: High quality SCSI cable info sought... Message-ID: <CqBnyK.F17@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 19:38:39 GMT I'm beginning to get some SCSI errors which can be isolated to a particular cable. Anybody out there have any recommendations for a high quality cable that will not give me any trouble until it's replaced with fiber? Thanks, -- Douglas Moore St Paul, MN 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hornkvjm@calvin.whitman.edu (John Hornkvist) Subject: Problems with NEC CDR55 Message-ID: <HORNKVJM.94May24122120@calvin.whitman.edu> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Whitman College Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 19:21:20 GMT Hi! I recently got the NS FIP 3.2 Academic Bundle, but I can't install it. :( I use the new NCR PCI SCSI driver from Talus, and I get a parity error as soon as it tries to access my NEC CDR 55. It has no problem with my Toshiba HD. I get the following error messages: Parity Error +++ SBCL a3 DCMD 19 DSP 288, SSID 80, SDID 1051f02 After a while: Unexpected Disconnect, stat 0, MSG-IN ff DBC 0 FIFO 0, SBCL 28 DCMD 47 DSP 230, xferCt 512, SDID 0 sd0: Gross hardware Failure; Retrying. target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:0 blockCount:15 Help! :>John
From: eric_t@riga.ks.uiuc.edu (Eric de la Tribouille) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: /etc/disktab entry for Pinnacle 230Mb or 128Mb optical drive? Date: 24 May 1994 21:24:24 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rtra8$jae@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Hi Fellows ! Well, I'd like to thanks all the people who responded to my post asking for a 3.5" MO drive for the NeXTs. I sent all the advices to our supplier, but I'd really like to get the Pinnacle tahoe 230. The problem certainly reside on the disktab. Has anybody configured the disktab correctly for this drive ? Thank you very much for any help. Best regards, - Eric -- Opinion expressed is my own ! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric de la Tribouille e-mail: eric@ks.uiuc.edu NeXT sys. admin. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: eps@shell.portal.com (Eric Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation isn't powering up! Date: 25 May 1994 01:08:07 GMT Organization: Portal Communications Company Message-ID: <2ru8dn$p9v@news1.svc.portal.com> Well I've tried the tricks that usually fix the common CMOS corruption problem, but my NeXTstation still won't power up when I hit the power key. I'm suspecting that the power supply is dead, but I'd like to be sure before I order a new one. Can anyone else suggest other things to try (to isolate the problem) before I give Bell Atlantic a call? Also, are there other sources for the power supply inside the 68040 NeXTstation? Thanks, Eric -- -- Eric Schwartz eric@whyanext.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kamundse@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (Jana Wonder Twin #1) Subject: Printer Problem Message-ID: <1994May25.015625.133163@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 01:56:25 GMT I am not exactly sure what is wrong... but here is what it is doing When I print, the printer makes 3 dots about 1mm square at the top, middle, and bottom of the page. The papers also have lines and streakes on them I suspect are coming from the rollers. I tried to clean it, but it is still doing the same thing... I am a bit short on $$ now, or I would take it in to be looked at... If anyone has any ideas as to why this is happened... please email me. -Kristin -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jana, Wonder Twin #1 kamundse@flute.aix.calpoly.edu "I got a new shadow, I had to get rid of the old one, it wasn't doing what I was doing." -S. Wright
From: harper@longwood.cs.ucf.edu (Donald Harper Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fahrenheit 1280 Plus VLB ? Date: 24 May 1994 22:08:57 -0400 Organization: University of Central Florida Message-ID: <2rubvp$fi8@longwood.cs.ucf.edu> Fahrenheit 1280 Plus VLB Does anyone know if this board will work with NS3.2. It has a S3 86C805 processor but I am not sure the DAC is supported. Thanks -- Don Harper harper@cs.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: otti@megatel.de (Thomas Otten) Subject: Re: Is the NeXT CDROM a Apple CD300? Message-ID: <1994May24.141204.4782@megatel.de> Sender: news@megatel.de Organization: megatel GmbH, Bremen, Germany References: <2riub8$hec@convex.cc.uky.edu> Date: Tue, 24 May 94 14:12:04 GMT In article <2riub8$hec@convex.cc.uky.edu> soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward) writes: > In article <2re60d$3bg@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. > Drosehn) writes: > > esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > > > I saw an Apple CD300 yesterday (for the first time) and noticed that it > > > look remarkable similar to the NeXT CDROM drive. Are they made by the > > > same folks? > > Made by the same folks (Sony), but the drive unit is not the > > same. The CD300 is a double-speed drive, the NeXT CD-ROM is > > single-speed. The NeXT CD-ROM is closer to the Apple CD150 > > than the Apple CD300. > > > > It does resemble a CD-150 quite a lot, but when I use a real CD-150, I can't > play Audio-CDs, I haven't taken the units apart, but I bet the only difference > is a ROM...Haven't tried a CD-300...... The CD-150 and the NeXT CDROM look the same. Even the board layout is the same ... but the Apple drive doesn't work with the ROMs of the NeXT drive. It is possible to listen to audio CDs after changing the ROMs but you can't read data CDs anymore. I think that isn't a good trade ;-( Thomas
From: eagle@catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel C. L'Hommedieu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: System Panic Date: 25 May 1994 03:40:55 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <2ruhc7$8le@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> Recently, my Cube has begun this thing with System Panics. I was running GISO yesterday, converting a (large) sound. I ran nn and BAM! System panic. Today, I was running GISO on a (large) sound, and did 'ls -l' and BAM! System panic. I'm running NextStep 2.1 on an 030 Cube. Anybody else had simlar results with GISO? Or am I possibly doing something else to bring on this odd behavior? I searched the system logs, but I couldn't find anything about the panics to show you guys... Thanks for any help. Daniel -- Daniel "eagle" L'Hommedieu Daniel_LHommedieu@nest.catt.ncsu.edu eagle@nest.catt.ncsu.edu (NeXT Mail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Sound Board From Talus Message-ID: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 04:16:44 GMT Now that I have your attention :-)) We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound board would really make you happy. We obviously can't support all of them and we'd like to pick one that everyone can get behind. We know that sound has been a problem and especially sound working with other devices in the system. We'll do our best to solve this if we can get some consensus on which of the current, or upcoming, boards are most popular. Many of you have more expertise in this particular area than we do and we REALLY DO want your input. Now it's up to you.... What can I say?...we're market driven :-)) Steve Sarich III (tin ear...remembers "turntables" and "45's"...old!) President Talus Imaging and Communications Corporation steve@talus.com 713-561-0700
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <1994May23.175127.19661@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 17:51:27 GMT Now that I have your attention :-)) We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound board would really make you happy. We obviously can't support all of them and we'd like to pick one that everyone can get behind. We know that sound has been a problem and especially sound working with other devices in the system. We'll do our best to solve this if we can get some consensus on which of the current, or upcoming, boards are most popular. Many of you have more expertise in this particular area than we do and we REALLY DO want your input. Now it's up to you.... What can I say?...we're market driven :-)) Steve Sarich III (tin ear...remembers "turntables" and "45's"...old!) President Talus Imaging and Communications Corporation steve@talus.com 713-561-0700
From: peter@uni-siegen.de (Peter Merz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tape Backup Drive: Viper 150, HELP Date: 25 May 1994 07:39:50 GMT Organization: Computer Center, University of Siegen, Germany Message-ID: <2ruvc6$ord@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de> References: <mcgaffeyrw.1.2DCE4AA5@ornl.gov> Robert William McGaffey (mcgaffeyrw@ornl.gov) wrote: : I need help installing a Viper 150 tape backup drive. I have an Intel 486 and : have installed first NeXTStep 3.1 and upgraded to 3.2. The SCSI controller I : have is Adaptec 1542c. The AMI bios does recognize the drive but NeXTStep : ignores it. I got a Wangtek 5150ES SCSI Streamer and the Adaptec 1542CF. After including a tape driver with configure.app the drive is recognized at startup. But when I try to access it, I get an i/o error. Probably the same problem as Robert has... Any suggestions? Peter. -- -- Peter Merz, pmerz@hrz.uni-siegen.de -- -- Computing Center at the University of Siegen, GERMANY -- -- Hochschulrechenzentrum der Universitaet Siegen --
From: peter@uni-siegen.de (Peter Merz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for ET4000 W32i ? Date: 25 May 1994 07:44:15 GMT Organization: Computer Center, University of Siegen, Germany Message-ID: <2ruvkf$ord@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de> References: <1994May9.103341.26229@imag.fr> <2r8sse$495@cosmos.nectech.com> Michael C. Duggan (mduggan@next1) wrote: : In article <1994May9.103341.26229@imag.fr> vermeer@imag.imag.fr : (Alexandre.Vermeerbergen) writes: : > Where can I find NS drivers for the ET-4000 W32i garphic : > card? I've searched NeXTanswers@NeXT.COM and found nothing, : > except that there exists a Nec-certifyed system... : > : > Anyone has a driver for me? (ftp anonymous or uuencoded mail OK). : > : > Alex. : > : NEC has the tseng W32i drivers for NS 3.1 and NS 3.2 on their BBS (508) : 635-4706. Or on Compuserve, GO NEXT, under LIBRARY, HARDWARE. : Thanks, : Mike Are there drivers for the ET-4000/W32 (no i or p) also available? Or is there a chance to get the sources of the driver above? Peter. -- -- Peter Merz, pmerz@hrz.uni-siegen.de -- -- Computing Center at the University of Siegen, GERMANY -- -- Hochschulrechenzentrum der Universitaet Siegen --
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 25 May 1994 08:01:29 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rv0kpINNlec@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> In article <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com>, talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: |> Now that I have your attention :-)) |> |> We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound |> board would really make you happy. We obviously can't support all of them |> and we'd like to pick one that everyone can get behind. We know that |> sound has been a problem and especially sound working with other devices |> in the system. We'll do our best to solve this if we can get some |> consensus on which of the current, or upcoming, boards are most popular. |> Many of you have more expertise in this particular area than we do and we |> REALLY DO want your input. Turtle Beach Multisound series. The sound quality is simply the best that the PC platform can provide, and it's pretty darn good on an absolute scale as well. I realize that NextStep probably can't take advantage of the E-MU wavetable synthesis (or the updated version with uploadable samples on the new Monterey board) or the capabilities of the 56001 on the Turtle Beach, but even without those the sound quality makes it worth the money (about $350 or lower street price) It's probably not for low-end installations, but Next already seems to be covering that end of the market with PAS-16 (we'll see what happens to MediaVision, though...) and Windows Sound System support. I think Talus' greatest opportunity to add value would therefore be by providing a solution that's actually listenable :-) Unless you're hot to target the SoundBlaster-16 installed base, that is... |> |> Now it's up to you.... |> |> What can I say?...we're market driven :-)) |> |> Steve Sarich III (tin ear...remembers "turntables" and "45's"...old!) |> President |> Talus Imaging and Communications Corporation |> steve@talus.com |> 713-561-0700 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego |> |> |>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Better 486 mice? Message-ID: <CqCnMq.Dp@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <CEDMAN.94May20213214@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 08:30:25 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94May20213214@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > In article <2ribhb$aeb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: > Mark Kenny (daya@kripalu.com) wrote: > : I'm having ongoing problems with my serial mouse moving in > : jerks and crashing with NeXTSTEP on Intel. Does anyone have > > Forgive my ignorance on these matters, but does that mean that PS/2 > style bus mice (such as e.g. used in the Dell Omniplex) won't work ? > From our experience PS/2 mice ARE the BEST option! Hans
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ia91meye@mr4661.htl-bw.ch (Roger Meyer) Subject: Re: Which Toner for NeXT Laser Printer? Message-ID: <1994May25.104750.6100@htl-bw.ch> Keywords: printer toner Sender: news@htl-bw.ch (USENET News System) Organization: HTL Brugg-Windisch, Switzerland References: <PROCOPIO.94May19214224@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> Distribution: comp Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 10:47:50 GMT In article <PROCOPIO.94May19214224@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) writes: > > What type of toner cartridge does the NeXT Laser Printer use? > I just bought one used (practically brand new) but w/o a toner cart. > > I know (I think...) that it uses some type of HP cart. but I don't know > which. Please help! > > Thanks, > Joe Procopio > > procopio@graphics.cis.upenn.edu > procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu > procopio@bambi.cis.uenn.edu Joe, The NeXT manual says that you can use a normal EP-S toner cartridge, the one which is used for HP Laser Jets. Roger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) Subject: Copying ROMs on NeXTStations Message-ID: <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 12:43:11 GMT We have a couple of old machines that really need their ROMS updating, one because we want to run ADB hardware on it, the other because for some reason the ROMs are duff and it won't boot. We have "source" machines that work fine, and we have use of an EPROM blower. Does anyone see any problems? Anyone done this? What kind of EPROMS are the ROMs that we need to blow onto? -- Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 London mark@xexos.com
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP card for NS/FIP Date: 25 May 1994 13:24:24 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> I have heart that there is a DSP card for Intel machine which can map to the I/O port of NeXT workstation. My teacher want to use it for his project. Does anybody have any information about it, like which company product it, Email address, how much does it cost? Many thanks, Mark
From: adracup@vnet.ibm.com (Andy Dracup) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Timed power-on with MonoStation Date: 25 May 1994 13:41:45 GMT Organization: IBM Glendale Laboratory, Endicott, NY Message-ID: <2rvkip$1dji@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Last night I tried that timed-power-on option (for the first time) in preferences and it didn't work. Did I do something stupid? The checkbox for power-on after power off/outage does works. NeXTStation Mono 25Mhz, ROM 2.5; NEXTSTEP 3.2 I couldn't find anything in the FAQ. Thanks, Andy Dracup
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) Subject: Sound support on NEXTSTEP-HP? Message-ID: <1994May25.143108.22776@news.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Yale University Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 14:31:08 GMT We saw a nice demo of a Gecko (HP 712/60) running NEXTSTEP last week at the Elm City NUG (thanks Nathan!). Apparently the 3.2 beta release does not support sound on the gecko, even though it comes with a built-in sound board. Does anyone know if sound will be supported on the official 3.3 release? Our local NeXT sales manager didn't know, and doesn't seem to respond to email. -- Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu "With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." Friedrich von Schiller
From: rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch (Ralph Michael Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for UltraStore SCSI Adapter? Date: 25 May 1994 14:24:32 GMT Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2rvn30$m14@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Hi everybody! I am looking for a NSFIP-Driver for the Ultra Store F34 VL SCSI-Adapter. Does such a driver exists? Are there any other compatible drivers? Thanks for helping... - Ralph (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch)
From: ctf1001@cl.cam.ac.uk (Christopher Faigle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Driver Help Needed Date: 25 May 1994 15:32:25 GMT Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rvr29$3qf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi, I'm writing a driver for a custom piece of hardware under NeXTStep. The hardware is 486, and the card uses the ISA Buss. I am using NeXT's driverKit, and I am subclassing the DirectDevice class. I have no problem talking to the hardware; during the "probe" message, I call my own initDeviceFromDescription, which calls the super method of the same, and then checks out the board, etc. This all works OK. I can read/write to the board no problem. My question has to do with actually sending messages to the device driver. The driverKit talks about how nice it is with it's interrupt handler stuff, and says "Use the MiG stuff". This suits me fine, except that I don't see how to connect the MiG stuff with the instance of the device driver. I invoke startIOThread, so I will have a thread, but I don't know its port ahead of time, so how does a user program know? If I use this port, how do I set up the message so that it goes to the right instance method (otherOccurred, I guess). I could ADVERTISE a port, and HMAP or SMAP it to some functions, but then I lose the class instance of the driver. I could simply do everything with the MiG stuff, but again, I lose the class instance. I know that I'm probably missing something basic, but if anyone could show me how to properly set up the IOThread, the LoadCommands and the MiG stuff so that they all work properly, I would be very grateful. A code example would really help! Please respond via e-mail. Thank-you!! Regards, Chris Faigle Computer Lab. U. Cambridge
From: gfs@is.rice.edu (Geoff Spradley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 25 May 1994 15:12:47 GMT Organization: Rice University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rvptf$ea3@larry.rice.edu> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <2rv0kpINNlec@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> How 'bout drivers for the Digital Audio Labs' Digital I/O Only CardD? List price $499, due to be released at the end of 3/94, though I haven't checked to see if they made it. This card ONLY has S/PDIF digital ins and outs -- no on-board A/D & D/A whatsoever. Consider this a blessing. Buy yourself a cheapie portaDAT to go with it, and you'll have yourself a recording/ mastering system gloriously free of PC innard noise, be able to dump master tapes of your work without leaving the digital domain, and have a pocket-sized means to capture that elusive Dusk Over Lake Titicaca sample you've always wanted, to boot. As good as the Turtle Beach cards may be, their only model offering direct digital I/O (no A/D or D/A either) costs over $1000. -Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff Spradley gfs@rice.edu Computer Consultant, W104 GRB Hall (713)285x5267 voice School of Natural Sciences, Rice University (713)527-6099 fax -------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 25 May 1994 16:32:01 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rvui1$g7i@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <2rv0kpINNlec@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2rvptf$ea3@larry.rice.edu> In article <2rvptf$ea3@larry.rice.edu> gfs@is.rice.edu (Geoff Spradley) writes: > >How 'bout drivers for the Digital Audio Labs' Digital I/O Only CardD? >List price $499, due to be released at the end of 3/94, though I >haven't checked to see if they made it. I'll second this. In the world of compromises that is PC soundcards, this board to me is the least evil. I would much rather see the stars align and Cambridge/Harvard Sound/ToolWorks (or whatever their name is) decide that it after all would be profitable to make their much touted but never-making-it-past-prototype MaxAudio device (AES/EBU,MIDI, A/D/D/A,SMPTE,VITC,KitchenSink in one rack space and one slot). Maybe some day. -- *+* Casey Palowitch, Advanced Technology Projects Librarian +*+ University of Pittsburgh Library Systems +*+ cjp+@pitt.edu NeXTmail: cjp@acid.library.pitt.edu *+* Web: http://www.pitt.edu/~cjp/index.html
From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Docs for Cirrus Logic 62x5 video Chipset Date: 25 May 1994 16:48:35 GMT Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rvvh3$erb@nef.ens.fr> I am in the process of adapting a video driver written for the Cirrus Logic 62x5 video chipset under Linux, but I do not have any documentation on how this chip works, and this does not help. Do you have any idea on how to get a data sheet describing the way this chipset works? Even the fax number of Cirrus would help! Thanx! -- Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr> LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Boot 030 Cube without Monitor Date: 25 May 1994 17:33:22 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s0252$6ib@netnews.upenn.edu> Another 030 cube went blind and we need to use it as a simple server. It has tons of important files on it, and we need to know how it is possible to boot the cube without the monitor. I believe there is some tricky pin connection you must make, that makes the computer believe there is a display, but in reality there is not. How can this be performed? What I need is the pin configuration of the 25 pin (I believe) video/kb/mouse/audio cable that runs the cube to the megapixel. It's monochrome, btw. Any help and guidance will be appreciated to the fullest extent. Cheers, R. Huque
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: Info on Austin Laptop Message-ID: <CqDEnH.8Is@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <2rtjf7$4m0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 18:16:32 GMT Get at least 16MB of RAM. For loading, get a docking station that has the SIS chip in it instead of the VLSI. Austin knows the difference -- you're local dealer may not. With the SIS, I use the Adaptec 1542CF and Intel EtherExpress16 for flawless loading and running while docked. After loaded, it works just fine and is pretty zippy compared to others (like the original Versa...) peter John B. Friedman (johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Has anyone had experience of Austin 486 66MZ laptop, sells here for 2300 : with 2 PMICIA slots, 340 HD, 8 MB ram active matrix mono as far as : mounting NS on it? Thanks.J. -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP card for NS/FIP Date: 25 May 1994 18:24:16 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <2s054g$2q7@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> In article <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes: > I have heart that there is a DSP card for Intel machine which > can map to the I/O port of NeXT workstation. My teacher want to > use it for his project. > RCN, Realtime Computing and Nets, Berlin, Germany Fax: ++49 30 6116774 Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu (Tim Scanlon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faking root mount entries ... ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 25 May 1994 09:58:52 GMT Organization: George Mason University, fairfax va. Sender: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rv7gs$6d5@portal.gmu.edu> References: <Cq7M3t.29B@galileo.pr.net.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: everything really is ok This is normal, nothing is "broken". What he needs to do to get the nice looking boot scree back is either interupt the system before it starts to boot (after it does the hardware testing, assuming he has that turned on, and he should) or even while it is running, via "cmd-cmd-~" and then type "mon" if he's in the "nmi" monitor (small window, has an "nmi>" prompt). If he's doiing it at boot time he will not get the nmi> window but will end up with a blank white screen (well not blank but mostly) that has a "NeXT>" prompt. This is the "Monitor" prompt, one thing you can get to from the nmi monitor. From here he needs to type "p" (Lower case) and go through the menu choosing options (a good time to turn ON all those hardware tests) and when he comes to "verbose test mode" tell it "n" or no basicly. Then he should hit "c" to continue to boot, OR if he did it while the system was running, "c" & "c" again. He may have to drag the windows around to make the screen re-write. Tim Scanlon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Erik Dasque <ed@joker.fdn.org> Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Message-ID: <1994May25.162252.4326@joker.fdn.org> Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque) Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France. References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 16:22:52 GMT In article <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: > Now that I have your attention :-)) > > We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound ... SoundBlaster 16 serie. It is not my favorite card but everybody buys one nowadays. Ed. -- Erik Dasque "The French Guy" ed@joker.fdn.org I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am sure, you realize, that what you heard is not what I meant.
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting PowerBook to the Fimi Date: 25 May 1994 23:25:00 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2s0mocINN1ss@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Hi: Is there a way to use the 17" Fimi monitor with a PowerBook or a Mac in general? Is there a recipe somewhere? Cables?Do-it-yourself Kit? Thanks -- Wassim M. Jabi (313) 936-0229 Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Boulevard Ann Arbor Michigan 48105-2069 wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu NeXTMail-friendly
From: dwaller@next.com (Dave Waller (HP)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is NeXTSTEP 3.2 HP/PA working with a HP Model 700-710 ? Date: 25 May 1994 22:23:05 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2s0j49$7oc@rosie.next.com> References: <1994May19.213247.787@news.media.mit.edu> In article <1994May19.213247.787@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: > According to NeXT (this is in some NeXTAnswer, I don't know which), NS/PA > will only run on 712's with the built-in video, and the 24 bit 7x5 machines, > or more precisely, the 715, 725, 735, and 755 with a single CRX24 display > adapter. The 8 bit CRX display will not be supported, although I assume > if you have a CR24Z or CRX48Z it will work, but I don't know for sure. NEXTSTEP will be supported on all 7100, 7100LC, and 7150 based machines that we are able to test on before release. We are trying to get them all tested, but may not be able to cover them all in the first release. This includes the following machines: 712/60 (7100LC) 712/80 (7100LC) 715/33 (7100) 715/50 (7100) 715/64 (7100LC) 715/75 (7100) 715/80 (7100LC) 715/100 (7100LC) 725/50 (7100) 725/75 (7100) 735 (7100) 735/125 (7150) 755 (7100) 8-bit grey will be supported on 8-bit graphics solutions (CRX, for example). 24-bit color will be supported on all machines capable of a 24-plane adaptor, and on all 7100LC systems (which have the color-recovery technology). > Funny note here - The cost of upgrading an 8 bit CRX display to a 24 bit one > (I think it's just a daughterboard) is more than the list price of the > lowend complete system price of the 712/60... No, it is a completely different board that is swapped in for the CRX. It is quite a bit more expensive because, of course, it has 3x the VRAM that the CRX has. The 7100LC systems are capable of delivering the full 24-bit solution at 8-plane prices due to the color recovery technology, which enables near-24-bit color capability in 8 planes of hardware (thereby reducing the amount of VRAM to that found in a true 24 plane system, and hence the cost). NOTE! None of the information above is to be construed as official commitment from either NeXT or Hewlett-Packard. You should wait for the official announcement regarding the release for information on supported platforms. Dave Waller Hewlett-Packard Co. NEXTSTEP on PARISC Project Lead
From: dwaller@next.com (Dave Waller (HP)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound support on NEXTSTEP-HP? Date: 25 May 1994 22:26:53 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2s0jbd$7oe@rosie.next.com> References: <1994May25.143108.22776@news.yale.edu> In article <1994May25.143108.22776@news.yale.edu> jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes: > > We saw a nice demo of a Gecko (HP 712/60) running NEXTSTEP last week at the Elm > City NUG (thanks Nathan!). Apparently the 3.2 beta release does not support > sound on the gecko, even though it comes with a built-in sound board. Does > anyone know if sound will be supported on the official 3.3 release? The first release is based on 3.2, not 3.3. Barring some unforseen disaster, sound will be supported on the 3.2hp release. We've got it working fine here at present. NOTE! The above should not be construed as an official commitment by either NeXT or Hewlett-Packard. Please refer to the official announcement prior to release for details on supported configurations and features. Dave Waller Hewlett-Packard Co. NEXTSTEP on PARISC Project Lead
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 17:49:42 CDT From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Message-ID: <94145.174943U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: contact info for peripheral solutions? i am looking for the phone number or email address of peripheral solutions. larry cohen, a sales person there, used to work for tecor and has always been a great help in finding the appropriate storage solutions for my NS system, but i seem to have lost his contact information. could someone else who has peripheral solutions/larry cohen's contact info please share it with me? thanks. -tom nawara nirvana@death.eecs.uic.edu ideaLABS
From: kohut1@urz.unibas.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS FIP 3.2 and DPT 2022 install probs Message-ID: <1994May26.001808.43786@yogi> Date: 26 May 94 00:18:08 MET Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland Today I received my new DPT 2022/95 EISA SCSI Adapter and tried to install NeXTstep 3.2 FIP on my system, but failed. The problem is that after NeXTstep resets the SCSI bus, the DPT adaptor doesn't respond anymore and NeXTstep reports a SCSI timeout error, whereby the status leds 1 and 9 stay on. I tried every possible irq but nothing helps. So I've no idea how to circumwent this problem and any help will be appreciated -Peter- P.S. System configuration : AIR486 - 66 EISA, Ami BIOS '93, 1 DEC 1.6 GB HDD (at ID 0), 1 IBM 1.0 GB, Diamond Viper VLB, DPT 2022/95, Toshiba CDROM, Sony DAT, Soundblaster 16ASP 32 MB RAM
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Copying ROMs on NeXTStations Date: 26 May 1994 02:03:16 GMT Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc. Message-ID: <2s1014$pgh@aisun.aiinet.com> References: <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> In article <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: > We have a couple of old machines that really need their ROMS updating, one > because we want to run ADB hardware on it, the other because for some reason > the ROMs are duff and it won't boot. What is the current boot ROM rev for the '030 cube? One would think NeXT would have a boot ROM image directory on their FTP server... John -- John Bly Milton IV jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:252-8544, w:798-8301 NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] Don't FLAME, inform!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: DSP card for NS/FIP Message-ID: <CqE5xJ.F95@muaddib.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 04:03:18 GMT In article <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes: | I have heart that there is a DSP card for Intel machine which | can map to the I/O port of NeXT workstation. My teacher want to | use it for his project. | | Does anybody have any information about it, like which company product it, | Email address, how much does it cost? | | | Many thanks, | | Mark | Yes there is a firm in the east of Germany, I'll check that out for you. Send mail to my address for further contact. Nice Greetings from Munich -- Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________ Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de 81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) Subject: Re: Timed power-on with MonoStation Message-ID: <CqE666.FA4@muaddib.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <2rvkip$1dji@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 04:08:29 GMT In article <2rvkip$1dji@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> adracup@vnet.ibm.com (Andy Dracup) writes: | Last night I tried that timed-power-on option (for the first time) in | preferences and it didn't work. Did I do something stupid? The | checkbox for power-on after power off/outage does works. | | NeXTStation Mono 25Mhz, ROM 2.5; NEXTSTEP 3.2 | | I couldn't find anything in the FAQ. | | Thanks, | Andy Dracup | Is your NeXTStation connected to a network. With a standalone machine, that doesn't work. I don't know if this feature works also with different machines in a network, e.g. a sun is powering on a NeXT at a given time???? :~} Nice Greetings from Munich -- Michael Maximilian Goedel email_____________________________ Gerhardstrasse 33 NeXT: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de 81543 Muenchen - GERMANY LINUX: max@funman.boss.sub.org Phone +49-89-652918 SGI: f11cs1@rz.unibw-muenchen.de
From: "Thomas G. Mon" <tm31+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Backup Media Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 00:24:27 -0400 Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <sht2FvG00iV248cYoU@andrew.cmu.edu> I am looking to purchase some sort of backup media, I am thinking of either getting a tape drive or a 3.5" 128MB flopitcal drive.. has anyone used of of these with the NeXT (black hardware) and how do you like it if you have? I am mainly looking to backup specific parts of my harddrive (daily). Probably less than 128 megs of importants stuff that changes every so often. I figure I could keep a floptical in the disk drive and have the a crontab script to do it for me everyday. Right now I am backing up stuff to other parts of my harddrive, but obviously that isn't really good enough. Tom. tm31@andrew.cmu.edu [NeXTMail welcome]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: Timed power-on with MonoStation Message-ID: <CqE8so.7EK@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2rvkip$1dji@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 05:05:11 GMT Andy Dracup (adracup@vnet.ibm.com) wrote: : Last night I tried that timed-power-on option (for the first time) in : preferences and it didn't work. Did I do something stupid? The : checkbox for power-on after power off/outage does works. : NeXTStation Mono 25Mhz, ROM 2.5; NEXTSTEP 3.2 I have forgotten how this works, but I wonder if you have to be root to do that??? --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: Thu, 26 May 94 02:08:48 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <BgyOuag.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <1994May23.175127.19661@talus.com> Pick anything that will run on the PCI and save us from ISA(or Eisa fot that matter)!!!! Somebody must have the hardware ready by now? Marty
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 25 May 1994 21:27:10 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2s0cau$c6f@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: >Now that I have your attention :-)) >We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound >board would really make you happy. One with at least the sound capabilites of a PAS 16 which works even on ISA flawlessly. Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2740 and DECpcXL Server Date: 25 May 1994 18:37:46 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2s0nga$7a5@cobber.cord.edu> I'm just about to finalize a purchase of two DECpcXL Servers and have questions about the on-board Adaptec 2740 SCSI. Yes, I believe it is the Adaptec and _NOT_ the NCR that is on the DECpcXL Server. Only the DECpcXL (non-Server) machines use the NCR. Thus, the NCR Talus driver won't work on the Server machine. According to the latest NeXTAnswers Compatibility Guide, the EISA Adaptec 274x will be supported in Q2 (and assuming I'm in the right space/time continuum, this ends in the next week?). Is there any word on the PCI Adaptec 274x? Any hopes of the Talus NCR PCI driver working on the Adaptec PCI :). The DECpcXL Server offers PCI FAST and FAST&WIDE SCSI-2 and so this makes support even more unlikely in the near future. Anyone know of any plans for support from NeXT or some other third-party? I thought the HP 712 (Gecko) used FAST SCSI drives. Maybe there is hope after all? I'm paying a premium on these systems because of these on-board goodies and it would be a shame if I can't use them under my operating system of choice. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS on IBM/Intel HELP Date: 26 May 1994 08:40:30 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H Message-ID: <2s1n9u$q8p@hp4at.eunet.co.at> Keywords: NS, IBM, Installing We HAVE TO buy IBM PCs and WANT TO run NS on them (we already have a network of DEC alpha, DEC PC, Nexts running). What is the biggest, best and most sexy IBM box that NS runs on? What do I have to buy? What are the problems? Next Answers does not provide much Information on it. I mean, do I really have to buy a PS/VP and run it on 800x600???? Thanks a lot Alfred -- ================================ Alfred H. Corrodi "Capitalism is based on the assumption Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can alfred@ca-risc.co.at (NeXT) break even. Mysticism is based on the Tel/43/1/531311967 Fax/5337341 assumption that you can leave the game."
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 26 May 1994 12:45:00 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s25kc$h31@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <BgyOuag.ecesys@delphi.com> ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> writes: > Pick anything that will run on the PCI and save us from ISA > (or Eisa fot that matter)!!!! Somebody must have the hardware > ready by now? > Marty Given that I have a DECpc XL which has PCI slots, I too would very much prefer support for some PCI card. I don't know much of anything about sound cards for PC's to say what to pick though. Right now I have an ProAudio Spectrum (ISA) card, so I'm not likely to replace that with some other sound card unless it's a PCI-based one. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Should a BLACK color monitor be turned off? Date: 26 May 1994 13:30:30 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s289m$et0@news.tamu.edu> As you may know, the black hardware color monitor has a separate power button. Does this imply it should be turned off when not in use, or may I leave it on? The basic problem is the power button is getting a little flakey so I hate to turn it on and off for fear it will go at the worst possible time. -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Louis Everett lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu NeXT mail welcome
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 26 May 1994 08:45:54 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940526144037.5954AACUU.malc@jeeves> Casimir J Palowitch (cjp+@pitt.edu) wrote: : In the world of compromises that is PC soundcards, this board to me is the : least evil. I would much rather see the stars align and Cambridge/Harvard : Sound/ToolWorks (or whatever their name is) decide that it after all would be : profitable to make their much touted but never-making-it-past-prototype : MaxAudio device (AES/EBU,MIDI, A/D/D/A,SMPTE,VITC,KitchenSink in one rack : space and one slot). Maybe some day. : On a related theme -- does anybody know any PC card which would allow input from Singular Solutions' AD 64x...? It's going to require a DSP slot... if I remember rightly Ariel had a PC card which did this, but... I'm not sure where MusicKit is going at the moment -- there are rumours that it will be reimplemented in C to avoid the necessity of a DSP chip, but if these are unfounded a driver for a card which would support MK would be much appreciated. Sorry I'm a bit incoherent today :-( Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: DSP card for NS/FIP Message-ID: <CqDr2t.E54@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 22:42:28 GMT In article <2rvji8$75p@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes: > I have heart that there is a DSP card for Intel machine which >can map to the I/O port of NeXT workstation. My teacher want to >use it for his project. > > Does anybody have any information about it, like which company product it, >Email address, how much does it cost? > > > Many thanks, > >Mark > Ariel Corporation, 433 River Road, Highland Park, NJ 08904 USA Ph: 908-249-2900 Fax 908-249-2123 make a DSP plug-in card for the PC which has a NeXT compatible DSP port on it. Two problems exist: (a) you'll need to write a NeXTSTEP device driver for it; and (b) it only has 8-bit companded audio i/o (or maybe 12-bit-- I can't find my spec sheet). I am currently writing a driver for the Turtle Beach Multisound. ------------------- David R. Hill, P.Eng., Professor Emeritus, U of Calgary, Dept. of Computer Science | Imagination is more The University of Calgary | important than knowledge. Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4 | (Albert Einstein) Ph: (403) 220-6315 email: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Message-ID: <CqDrs3.EoK@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <2rv0kpINNlec@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2rvptf$ea3@larry.rice.edu> Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 22:57:38 GMT In article <2rvptf$ea3@larry.rice.edu> gfs@is.rice.edu (Geoff Spradley) writes: > >How 'bout drivers for the Digital Audio Labs' Digital I/O Only CardD? >List price $499, due to be released at the end of 3/94, though I >haven't checked to see if they made it. > >This card ONLY has S/PDIF digital ins and outs -- no on-board A/D >& D/A whatsoever. Consider this a blessing. Buy yourself a cheapie >portaDAT to go with it, and you'll have yourself a recording/ >mastering system gloriously free of PC innard noise, be >able to dump master tapes of your work without leaving the digital >domain, and have a pocket-sized means to capture that elusive >Dusk Over Lake Titicaca sample you've always wanted, to boot. > >As good as the Turtle Beach cards may be, their only model >offering direct digital I/O (no A/D or D/A either) costs over $1000. > >-Geoff > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Geoff Spradley gfs@rice.edu >Computer Consultant, W104 GRB Hall (713)285x5267 voice >School of Natural Sciences, Rice University (713)527-6099 fax >------------------------------------------------------------------- Your point about keeping the analog stuff out of the awful PC environment is an excellent one. However, many people cannot afford/don't want to go to professional levels of audio equipment but still want really good sound and lots of flexibility and power for what is coming "real soon now". The Turtle Beach "Tahiti" board has both a DSP and 16- stereo i/o and it sells for well under $1000 "on the street". That is my choice for audio support for NeXTSTEP for Intel, and I've put my money (and other things) where my mouth is. (The previously quoted price of $350US is probably close). Phone or write them: Turtle Beach Systems, 52 Grumbacher Road York Pennsylvania 17402 USA Ph: 717-767-0200 (1-800-645-5640) Fax: 717-767-6033 They have a very impressive CD demo. Check out how much digital noise actually gets into the audio. Probably not enough for the average user to worry about anyway, given that there is often all kinds of noise from other sources in the room where a computer is located. If you need professional quality, rather than just excellent audio out of your computer, then you will have to pay a good deal anyway to do it right. david ---------- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein) -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Adaptec 2740 and DECpcXL Server Message-ID: <CqEyGC.FpH@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <2s0nga$7a5@cobber.cord.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:19:22 GMT In article <2s0nga$7a5@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu writes: >>I'm just about to finalize a purchase of two DECpcXL Servers and have >>questions about the on-board Adaptec 2740 SCSI. Yes, I believe >>it is the Adaptec and _NOT_ the NCR that is on the DECpcXL Server. Only the >>DECpcXL (non-Server) machines use the NCR. Thus, the NCR Talus driver >>won't work on the Server machine. >> >>According to the latest NeXTAnswers Compatibility Guide, the EISA Adaptec >>274x will be supported in Q2 (and assuming I'm in the right space/time >>continuum, this ends in the next week?). Is there any word on the PCI >>Adaptec 274x? Any hopes of the Talus NCR PCI driver working on the >>Adaptec PCI :). >> >>The DECpcXL Server offers PCI FAST and FAST&WIDE SCSI-2 and so this makes >>support even more unlikely in the near future. Anyone know of any plans >>for support from NeXT or some other third-party? I thought the HP 712 >>(Gecko) used FAST SCSI drives. Maybe there is hope after all? >> The HP712 uses single ended scsi2. Not fast...not wide. The 712 is for fast graphics. If you want fast i/o you're talking HP735 or better. -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: djh@next11.math.pitt.edu (dj hebert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: laptops Date: 26 May 1994 15:24:37 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <2s2evl$mav@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Is anyone happy with running NeXTStep on a laptop? The list of certified and listed laptops seems to be static, while more powerful laptops at lower price are constantly appearing in ads and reviews. Has anyone tried NeXTStep on the Gateway colorbook?, the latest 75 mhz WinBook? DJ Hebert Math/Stat Pitt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: norm@enel.ucalgary.ca (Norm Bartley) Subject: Ballpoint mouse on T1950CS notebook Message-ID: <May26.160014.38535@acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 16:00:14 GMT Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada Hello, I have NEXTSTEP up and running on a Toshiba 1950CS notebook, but with just one problem (other than having only 8 Megs RAM): I can't seem to get the builtin ballpoint mouse working. It is a PS/2-style mouse. During the device probe, a PS/2-style pointing device is recognized, but immediately upon loading and registering the PS2Mouse driver, the keyboard freezes. The machine then comes up multiuser without the mouse or keyboard. The driver settings look right (IRQ 12, etc.). The mouse works fine under Linux/XFree86-2.1 and, of course, on you-know-what. Anyone have similar experiences? Norm
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seeking scanner recommendations [motorola] Date: 26 May 1994 16:30:32 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, CCIT Distribution: world Message-ID: <PJS.94May26093032@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> I know HSD makes scanners which work with black hardware. Are there any other options out there? Any recommendations for good (cheap) sources? -- --paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu ================================================================= Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run. --Mark Twain =================================================================
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 26 May 1994 16:41:18 GMT Organization: University of Vaasa Message-ID: <2s2jfe$qrl@zippo.uwasa.fi> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <1994May25.162252.4326@joker.fdn.org> >In article <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich >III) writes: >> Now that I have your attention :-)) >> >> We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound How about Turtle Beach Multisound Monterey. there is this Motorola DSP56001, you know. I like Gravis Ultrasound for cheaper solution. They have also a new model coming: Ultrasound Max. There they have also DDSP, then. -- ///// Harri Valkama, hv@uwasa.fi (also NeXTmail welcome) ///// WasaWare Oy Ab, Palosaarentie 23-25, FIN-65200 Vaasa, Finland ///// Telephone: +358 61 317 3365 fax: +358 61 317 3025
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus In-Reply-To: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu's message of 26 May 1994 12:45:00 GMT To: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <BgyOuag.ecesys@delphi.com> <2s25kc$h31@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:25:40 GMT In article <2s25kc$h31@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> writes: > Pick anything that will run on the PCI and save us from ISA > (or Eisa fot that matter)!!!! Somebody must have the hardware > ready by now? > Marty Given that I have a DECpc XL which has PCI slots, I too would very much prefer support for some PCI card. I don't know much of anything about sound cards for PC's to say what to pick though. Right now I have an ProAudio Spectrum (ISA) card, so I'm not likely to replace that with some other sound card unless it's a PCI-based one. I wouldn't. Even playing 16-bit stereo sound at 44.1 kHz (i.e. CD quality sound) requires less than 180 kBytes/second of bandwidth which is but a small fraction of even the ISA bandwidth. There is a rather strict limit on how many PCI cards will fit into most systems. Let's try and only use those precious PCI slots for applications which need really need them like video or SCSI cards. Carl Edman
From: byrd@nachste.star.harc.edu (Marc J. Byrd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: i860, NeXT Dimension Date: 26 May 1994 18:37:22 GMT Organization: Houston Advanced Research Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s2q92$e9g@spectre.star.harc.edu> I think I saw in passing once that the NeXT Dimension contains an Intel i860 DSP chip. Is this correct? If so, does it (or can it) serve in the same capacity as the Motorolla DSP chip on a Cube? That is, are there programming tools and access to the i860? Thanks, -- Marc J. Byrd - byrd@rice.edu | Marc J. Byrd - byrd@harc.edu Rice University | Houston Advanced Research Center Dept of Elec & Comp Engr | 4800 Research Forest Drive Confocal Hologram Reconstruction | The Woodlands, TX 77381 -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($D@=&AI;FL@22!S M87<@:6X@<&%S<VEN9R!O;F-E('1H870@=&AE($YE6%0@1&EM96YS:6]N(&-O M;G1A:6YS(&%N($EN=&5L(%P*:3@V,"!$4U`@8VAI<"X@($ES('1H:7,@8V]R M<F5C=#\@($EF('-O+"!D;V5S(&ET("AO<B!C86X@:70I('-E<G9E(&EN('1H M95P*<V%M92!C87!A8VET>2!A<R!T:&4@36]T;W)O;&QA($134"!C:&EP(&]N M(&$@0W5B93\@(%1H870@:7,L(&%R92!T:&5R95P*<')O9W)A;6UI;F<@=&]O M;',@86YD(&%C8V5S<R!T;R!T:&4@:3@V,#\@(%P*7`I4:&%N:W,L7`I<"EP* M+2U<"DUA<F,@2BX@0GER9"`M(&)Y<F1`<FEC92YE9'4@("`@("`@?"`@36%R M8R!*+B!">7)D("T@8GER9$!H87)C+F5D=5P*4FEC92!5;FEV97)S:71Y("`@ M("`@("`@("`@("`@("`@("!\("!(;W5S=&]N($%D=F%N8V5D(%)E<V5A<F-H M($-E;G1E<B!<"D1E<'0@;V8@16QE8R`F($-O;7`@16YG<B`@("`@("`@("`@ M?"`@-#@P,"!297-E87)C:"!&;W)E<W0@1')I=F4@7`I#;VYF;V-A;"!(;VQO M9W)A;2!296-O;G-T<G5C=&EO;B`@('P@(%1H92!7;V]D;&%N9',L(%18("`W *-S,X,2!<"@I]"G-T `
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 26 May 94 19:35:14 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <BgyOuag.ecesys@delphi.com> <2s25kc$h31@usenet.rpi.edu> <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >I wouldn't. Even playing 16-bit stereo sound at 44.1 kHz (i.e. CD >quality sound) requires less than 180 kBytes/second of bandwidth which >is but a small fraction of even the ISA bandwidth. There is a rather >strict limit on how many PCI cards will fit into most systems. Let's >try and only use those precious PCI slots for applications which need >really need them like video or SCSI cards. The bandwidth is not the problem. But if you have an ISA machine with two busmastering cards, e.g. 1542 and PAS16, you're in trouble. ISA is just a sort of shit, but no bus architecture. I'd love to have an EISA sound card, and others would love to have a PCI one. Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with DIT CubeFloppy 2.9 Date: 26 May 1994 20:39:01 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2s31d5$hl4@news.u.washington.edu> I have been having problems reading/writing/formatting using the CubeFloppy 2.9 from DIT. When I contacted them about the problem, they replied that they were not sure (since they no longer support the product), but thought that it was caused by a bug in NS3.x. Is this true? And if so, is there a workaround? It is frustrating (and annoying) to have an unrelaible drive. Thanks for any information.
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: i860, NeXT Dimension Date: 26 May 1994 20:06:48 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s2vgp$8v4@rosie.next.com> References: <2s2q92$e9g@spectre.star.harc.edu> In article <2s2q92$e9g@spectre.star.harc.edu> byrd@nachste.star.harc.edu (Marc J. Byrd) writes: > I think I saw in passing once that the NeXT Dimension contains an Intel > i860 DSP chip. Is this correct? If so, does it (or can it) serve in > the same capacity as the Motorolla DSP chip on a Cube? That is, are > there programming tools and access to the i860? There is an i860 on the NeXTdimension board, but it is not user programmable. (By the way, did you know that you can tell what year a NeXT product shipped in by the capitalization of the product name?) Those mean old engineers at NeXT decided to keep the product closed, rather than user programmable, for several reasons: 1) It would have taken too long to bring the i860 development tools up to production standards. 2) The OS environment provided by the GaCK OS would have to be documented. Not a pretty sight... 3) We'd have to guarantee that threads of 3rd party code didn't trash the DPS and QRman code. It's a single address space, multithreaded environment. 4) Adding loadable i860 code support and multiple address spaces was way beyond the scope of the project, and would take too long. The i860 is used to render PostScript under control of the Window Server DPS interpreter, perform backing store management, window blitting, and whatnot, perform QRMan rendering, and manage the video hardware. It provides a demand paged VM system for handling all those huge backing stores. Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM ---- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. In fact, it was probably produced by line noise.
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Copying ROMs on NeXTStations Date: 26 May 1994 19:50:32 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2s2ui8$8uq@rosie.next.com> References: <2s1014$pgh@aisun.aiinet.com> In article <2s1014$pgh@aisun.aiinet.com> jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton) writes: > In article <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: > > We have a couple of old machines that really need their ROMS updating, one > > because we want to run ADB hardware on it, the other because for some reason > > the ROMs are duff and it won't boot. > > What is the current boot ROM rev for the '030 cube? One would think NeXT would > have a boot ROM image directory on their FTP server... > > John Copying ROMs may not be the best solution for you. Each ROM has an Ethernet address burned into it, along with a CRC check value. If the copied ROMs are installed in machines on the same network as the machines holding the original ROMs, bizarre things will happen. (For example, neither machine will be particularly useful...) This is also a good reason why we don't put ROM images on the FTP server. You might want to contact Bell Atlantic, our service provider, and see if they can supply your ROM needs. Bell Atlantic-CTS NeXT Computer Service Dept 2323 Industrial Parkway West Hayward, CA 94545 1-800-499-6398 Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM ---- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. In fact, it was probably produced by line noise.
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2740 and DECpcXL Server Date: 26 May 1994 10:14:16 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2s2ec8$e47@cobber.cord.edu> References: <2s0nga$7a5@cobber.cord.edu> In article <2s0nga$7a5@cobber.cord.edu>, <doroin@cobber.cord.edu> wrote: [...] >According to the latest NeXTAnswers Compatibility Guide, the EISA Adaptec >274x will be supported in Q2 (and assuming I'm in the right space/time >continuum, this ends in the next week?). Is there any word on the PCI >Adaptec 274x? Any hopes of the Talus NCR PCI driver working on the Ooops, I posted this from the wrong space/time continuum. But now I'm back from the future :). I'm curious if NeXT is contracting Talus or some other company to write the Adaptec 274x driver. Talus writes some fine drivers and if there is enough demand for specific devices to be supported I'm sure Talus would come thru. After all, they are "market driven". It is great that Steve Sarich III has come to the net to see what users want. NeXT could really use help from dedicated companies like Talus. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) Subject: Adaptec 1542 vs 2842 Message-ID: <CqFI5K.LI@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 21:24:56 GMT I am about to buy a Vesa Local Bus Pentium machine and I need a harddrive controller for it. I know that there is no official driver for the 2842 card yet. Is there one in the works, or does anyone know if this card is compatible with the 1542. I may just end up getting the 1542 to be safe. Comments would be appriciated -- /\/\ike Taylor mataylor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tape Backup Drive: Viper 150, HELP Date: 26 May 1994 12:47:49 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2s2295$d4k@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <mcgaffeyrw.1.2DCE4AA5@ornl.gov> <2ruvc6$ord@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit peter@uni-siegen.de (Peter Merz) writes: >Robert William McGaffey (mcgaffeyrw@ornl.gov) wrote: >: I need help installing a Viper 150 tape backup drive. I have an Intel 486 and >: have installed first NeXTStep 3.1 and upgraded to 3.2. The SCSI controller I >: have is Adaptec 1542c. The AMI bios does recognize the drive but NeXTStep >: ignores it. >I got a Wangtek 5150ES SCSI Streamer and the Adaptec 1542CF. >After including a tape driver with configure.app the drive >is recognized at startup. But when I try to access it, >I get an i/o error. Probably the same problem as Robert has... >Any suggestions? You need to set your device to fixed block size mode (with 512 bytes). The following prog will do this. Invoke it after inserting a tape with mtset -f 512. It is really annoying that mtset is not part of the NS distribution, because it is essential for QIC drives. Markus. ----- schnippel ----- beiss ----- fetz ------ reiss ------ hau wech ----- /* * mtset - set SCSI tape driver characteristics * * setmtd - set SCSI tape driver to a fixed block size * by John L. Chmielewski * Tue Feb 19, 1991 * * Modified to take drive name argument and default to non-rewinding mode: * by David D. Johnson (ddj@gradient.com) * Sun Feb 24, 1991 * * Modified to use switches to change tape device name and characteristics: * mtset [-d name] [-f size] [-i] * -d tape device name (default /dev/nrst0) * -f Sets the driver to fixed block mode, uses * argument of block size in bytes (default 512 bytes), * Variable block mode is default. * -i Inhibit illegal length (default is to allow illegal length) */ /* USE AT YOUR OUR RISK. I NOT NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEM CAUSED BY THIS PROGRAM. */ #include <fcntl.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <dev/scsireg.h> #define RSTDEVICE "/dev/nrst0" #define BLOCKSIZE 512 main(int argc, char *argv[]) { extern int optind; extern char *optarg; int fd; int defsize = BLOCKSIZE; int size = BLOCKSIZE; char *deffile = RSTDEVICE; char *file = RSTDEVICE; u_int mode = MTIOCVARBLK; u_int inhibit = MTIOCALILL; char c; while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "d:f:i")) != EOF) { switch (c) { case 'd': file = optarg; break; case 'f': mode = MTIOCFIXBLK; size = atoi(optarg); break; case 'i': inhibit = MTIOCINILL; break; default: fprintf(stderr, "usage: %s [-d device] [-f block-size] [-i]\n", argv[0]); fprintf(stderr, " -d tape device name (default %s)\n", deffile); fprintf(stderr, " -f set fix block mode with size (default size %d)\n", defsize); fprintf(stderr, " -i Inhibit illegal length\n"); fprintf(stderr, " default: variable block mode, allow illegal length\n"); exit(1); } } if ((fd = open(file, O_RDWR)) < 0) { perror(file); exit(1); } if (ioctl(fd, mode, &size) < 0) { perror("ioctl"); exit(1); } if (ioctl(fd, inhibit) < 0) { perror("ioctl"); exit(1); } (void) close(fd); return 0; } ----- schnippel ----- beiss ----- fetz ------ reiss ------ hau wech ----- -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cleelacj@agedwards.com (Chris Cleeland) Subject: Re: Copying ROMs on NeXTStations Message-ID: <CqFKnr.22n@agedwards.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 22:19:03 GMT References: <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> Organization: A. G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. Mark Chamberlain (mark@xexos.com) wrote: : We have a couple of old machines that really need their ROMS updating... : We have "source" machines that work fine, and we have use of an EPROM blower : Does anyone see any problems? Aren't the Ethernet addresses on the EPROMS? : -- : Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535 : Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844 : London mark@xexos.com -- ============================================================================== Chris Cleeland | NeXTMail: chris@milo.st-louis.mo.us BOS Dev. Team | MIMEMail: cleeland@agedwards.com | BellNet: (314) 289-5372
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Gibson_Rory@pcp.ca (Rory Gibson) Subject: Re: Fastest Ethernet Card for Intel? Message-ID: <1994May27.001040.16628@pcp.ca> Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. References: <1994May20.214324.5706@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> Date: Fri, 27 May 94 00:10:40 GMT In article <1994May20.214324.5706@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca writes: > I'm looking for the fastest implementation of ethernet for Intel computers. > We're currently using Intel Ether Express (16bit) and find it to be much slower > compared to the good old black hardware. Does a VESA local bus ethernet card > exist? > > thanks in advance. > > --brad > -- > Brad Head <brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca> > Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc. > Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA The Intel card is the fastest of the three ISA cards supported (Intel, SMC, and 3COM) but the Cogent eMaster EISA cards smoke all of them. In raw throughput the Cogent seems to be about twice as fast as the Intel. This is an EISA card but they will be releasing a NeXTSTEP driver for their new PCI card soon. The currently available cards are as follows: EM932 a very good workstation card. EM935 XL more expensive but only slightly faster. If you want more information you can call 1-800-4-COGENT. I've been talking to Barry Pierson who seems quite knowledgeable. Rory Gibson PanCanadian Petroleum Calgary, Alberta.
From: fxia@Bridge.COM (Fred Xia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cannot hook Dell NS to the network Date: 27 May 1994 00:25:46 GMT Organization: Planet Earth Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s3ema$4ou@news.bridge.com> Originator: fxia@panda.bridge.com Hello, I have a problem in networking Dell 466 MX. I watched the rebooting procedure and it seems to me the command npsd failed to bind the machine to the server. Later the machine goes panic. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Fred Xia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Subject: Re: Faking root mount entries ... ? Message-ID: <CqFH77.44s@galileo.pr.net.ch> Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer) Organization: Galileo Software - Tenero - Switzerland References: <Cq7M3t.29B@galileo.pr.net.ch> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 21:04:18 GMT Thank you everyone for the informations. My friend that have the problem is very enthusiastic about news. He will by a modem very soon! Ps: Sean Hill in Lausanne, your replay address hill@ulphy1.unil.CH is wrong. I can t email you... -- Stefano Unternaehrer NeXTStep Software Developer Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe phone: +41 93 673 073 fax: +41 93 673 064 NeXTmail: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 27 May 1994 02:18:24 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <2s3l9g$49v@network.ucsd.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> Carl Edman (cedman@princeton.edu) wrote: : I wouldn't. Even playing 16-bit stereo sound at 44.1 kHz (i.e. CD : quality sound) requires less than 180 kBytes/second of bandwidth which : is but a small fraction of even the ISA bandwidth. There is a rather : strict limit on how many PCI cards will fit into most systems. Let's : try and only use those precious PCI slots for applications which need : really need them like video or SCSI cards. So which PCI video cards and SCSI cards work ***well*** with NextStep? I'm potentially interested in a Pentium90 workstation. I'm used to Suns and I'm suspicious of the mangy-cat-that-came-in-with-the-trash hardware on Intel, but the cost difference is too hard to ignore. So what would be a good configuration that has workstation-like performance and reliability, say for a PCI SCSI adapter, video, ethernet and whatever else? I.e. I want to know not what will work with NS/I, but what NS/I really likes. Windows benchmarks aren't all that relevant, I would think. : Carl Edman -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: stretch@garnet.msen.com (Brian Stretch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR PCI SCSI w/NeXTStep Intel Date: 26 May 1994 23:13:37 -0400 Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, MI (account info: +1 313 998-4562) Sender: stretch@garnet.msen.com Message-ID: <2s3oh1$ss5$1@garnet.msen.com> Is anyone running NeXTStep using an Intel Pentium 60MHz motherboard using Intel's Mercury chipset and NCR's integrated PCI SCSI controller? We sold such a board to a customer (after telling him to make sure he could get drivers) and now he's having problems (don't know if he got the drivers). Something about a DMA error when installing from his CD-ROM. Anyhow, I'd just like to make sure there actually are proper drivers before things get frustrating. (Any word on ATI Mach64 drivers, btw? A 4meg VRAM GPT would make for a _seriously_ cool desktop..) Anyone tried a Buslogic PCI SCSI card with NeXTStep? Adaptec 2942? -- Brian Stretch (stretch@mail.msen.com) CI$: 76176,1216 Certified Technojunkie Competitive Computer Systems Internet Sales Consultant. !finger my account for the latest CCS 486 and Pentium Consultant's Choice system configurations and prices. CCS is an ADI Midwest Distributor! **90MHz PENTIUMS AVAILABLE!**
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus In-Reply-To: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de's message of 26 May 94 19:35:14 GMT To: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May26163121@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <BgyOuag.ecesys@delphi.com> <2s25kc$h31@usenet.rpi.edu> <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 20:31:21 GMT In article <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >I wouldn't. Even playing 16-bit stereo sound at 44.1 kHz (i.e. CD >quality sound) requires less than 180 kBytes/second of bandwidth which >is but a small fraction of even the ISA bandwidth. There is a rather >strict limit on how many PCI cards will fit into most systems. Let's >try and only use those precious PCI slots for applications which need >really need them like video or SCSI cards. The bandwidth is not the problem. But if you have an ISA machine with two busmastering cards, e.g. 1542 and PAS16, you're in trouble. ISA is just a sort of shit, but no bus architecture. I'd love to have an EISA sound card, and others would love to have a PCI one. That's a good point. However I think the more reasonable solution is to get an EISA or PCI (or VLB) SCSI card. Those can actually make use of the larger bandwidth and more sophisticated features of more modern buses. Carl Edman
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 27 May 1994 03:17:35 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s3oof$k4p@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: > gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > Given that I have a DECpc XL which has PCI slots, I too would > very much prefer support for some PCI card. [etc] > > I wouldn't. Even playing 16-bit stereo sound at 44.1 kHz (i.e. > CD quality sound) requires less than 180 kBytes/second of bandwidth > which is but a small fraction of even the ISA bandwidth. Well, on my machine I have two ISA cards. One for ethernet, and one for sound. The ethernet card is working fine, but the sound card was a little problematic. It's working "just OK" now that I have the right IRQ's and DMA's set, but it's still not as good as sound is on my NeXTstations. Bandwidth-wise it would make more sense for me to have a PCI card for ethernet, except that the Intel EtherExpress I have seems to be working fine (well, I've only been testing it for a day... :-). So I guess I don't need a PCI card for sound as long as I have some combination of card & driver which does a bit better than what I have. I don't really know what that would be though. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: HELP needed for IBM 1GB 066S12 Message-ID: <CqGCB1.ED@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 08:16:12 GMT Could anybody explain me exactly, how to connect a IBM 066S12 to black hardware? I ve heard there should be placed a jumper to asynchron and changed a firmware-bit with the SCSI-tools. But I don t know, how to do this. Thanks for any help Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (Keith E. Salmon) Subject: NeXTDimension Question Message-ID: <CqFI37.Iq5@oodis01.hill.af.mil> Keywords: NextDimension Sender: news@oodis01.hill.af.mil (News System;Unix;) Organization: Hill AFB Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 21:23:30 GMT I have the following equipment: NeXTDimension Board w/ color and mono monitors S-VHS VCR HI-8mm VTR I have S-Video cable from the S-VHS VCR to the HI-8 unit, and S-video cable from the HI-8 unit to the S-video input on the ND board. I can use both video machines to view recorded video information, but i also want the capability to hear the audio recordings as well. Does anyone know of a way to get audio through the mono monitor (or any other way besides using external speakers attached directly to the video units)? Please email any responses to the address listed below. Thanks. Keith Salmon Aerospace Engineer United States Air Force salmon@lgb.hill.af.mil (NeXTMail preferred)
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 27 May 1994 15:56:04 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s556k$5bb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <2rv0kpINNlec@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Patrick Chase (patrick@sdd.hp.com) wrote: : Turtle Beach Multisound series. The sound quality is simply the best that the : PC platform can provide, and it's pretty darn good on an absolute scale as : well. I realize that NextStep probably can't take advantage of the E-MU : wavetable synthesis (or the updated version with uploadable samples on the : new Monterey board) or the capabilities of the 56001 on the Turtle Beach, : but even without those the sound quality makes it worth the money (about : $350 or lower street price) It's probably not for low-end installations, : but Next already seems to be covering that end of the market with PAS-16 : (we'll see what happens to MediaVision, though...) and Windows Sound System : support. I think Talus' greatest opportunity to add value would therefore : be by providing a solution that's actually listenable :-) Unless you're hot : to target the SoundBlaster-16 installed base, that is... If I got the right idea from my experiences with 'sound' and NEXTSTEP, a SoundKit driver for those proposed high-end cards would be nothing but a 'toy'. The SoundKit only provides routines for accessing recording and playback facilities. Those facilities are just a low percentage of the potential of e.g. the Turtle Beach. The Wavetable part, i.e. the synthesizer is just NOT USED AT ALL in NEXTSTEP. It was used in the MusicKit, but there's no Intel version (since there's no common hardware platform as the 56001 was on the black hardware). So with any of those high-end sound cards you simply couldn't get better sound than with a SB16 e.g., the only significant difference is e.g. the quality of the filters, but the real value of the card is the synthesizer part. So it would make more sense to adapt the MusicKit to an Intel high end sound card. The MusicKit is still supported (look in the FAQ), and there have been plans to prepare an Intel version, but I'm not sure about the ongoing. So: Sorry Talus, but SoundKit drivers are IMHO a just a nice add-on, and should be no more than $30 ;-). Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Adaptec 2740 and DECpcXL Server Message-ID: <CqGx6J.7ot@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <2s2ec8$e47@cobber.cord.edu> Distribution: na Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 15:47:06 GMT In article <2s2ec8$e47@cobber.cord.edu> doroin@cobber.cord.edu writes: >>In article <2s0nga$7a5@cobber.cord.edu>, <doroin@cobber.cord.edu> wrote: >>[...] >>>According to the latest NeXTAnswers Compatibility Guide, the EISA Adaptec >>>274x will be supported in Q2 (and assuming I'm in the right space/time >>>continuum, this ends in the next week?). Is there any word on the PCI >>>Adaptec 274x? Any hopes of the Talus NCR PCI driver working on the >> >>Ooops, I posted this from the wrong space/time continuum. But now I'm >>back from the future :). >> >>I'm curious if NeXT is contracting Talus or some other company to write the >>Adaptec 274x driver. Talus writes some fine drivers and if there is >>enough demand for specific devices to be supported I'm sure Talus would >>come thru. After all, they are "market driven". It is great that Steve >>Sarich III has come to the net to see what users want. NeXT could really >>use help from dedicated companies like Talus. I don't know the gory details but the two Steves (Jobs/Sarich) apparently don't get along too well. I agree that Talus (Hey James!) is doing us all a great service in spite of NeXT's stance on this issue. -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe) Subject: Portable Computers Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 15:37:48 GMT Message-ID: <CqGwr1.2M2@Happy-Man.com> Organization: Happy Man Corp, 4410 Pt Robinson, Vashon, WA 98070 206/463-9399 I want a laptop/notebook-style computer with a high speed data modem (and preferably, also fax capability) for traveling and the ability to connect to my office's ethernet when at home. I'm pretty sure I can do this today running Linux, but I'd rather run Nextstep if that is practical now. Does anyone have any recommendations, "stay-aways", or comments? Thanks! - Irving -- Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com 206/463-9399 x101 fax extension 108 Happy Man Corp. 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon, WA 98070-7399 In SOLID VALUE, we show intelligent investors under-priced stocks Printed Info Free: Send POSTAL address: Solid-Value@Happy-Man.com
From: bpatters@PCS.CNU.EDU (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WINGINE USERS READ! Date: 27 May 1994 12:01:30 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9405271653.AA05623@PCS.CNU.EDU> Does the Wingine work as a "VLB" board in DOS? Or does it drop and use ISA bus unless a driver is present? 32-bit for VGA progs, etc? Thanks. bp PLEASE respon email only. Tnx =----------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson ||eCesys i486DX2/66, GUS, ||David Wilcox = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu ||Wingine 2mb VLB video, || Tori Amos = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu ||16mb RAM, 700mb SCSI HD || Elvis Costello = = blake@vigsun1.larc.nasa.gov|I REPRESENT NO ONE BUT ME|...they say it all...= =----------------------------------------------------------------------------= == Face on Mars NASA video by Dr. Richard C. Hoagland. Watch it and think. == =----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ccoffin@slate.mines.colorado.edu ( 3032799202) Subject: Source for 2.8 meg ED disks? Message-ID: <1994May27.165625.21108@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 16:56:25 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Could anyone refer me to where I can purchase the 2.8 megabyte (formatted capacity) extended density diskettes for the black hardware. PC Connection no longer carries them. ccoffin@mines.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com (Alberto Ricart) Subject: Using a NeXT CDROM on a Macintosh Message-ID: <1994May27.142521.594@parsec.mixcom.com> Summary: How can I make a Mac see the CD Drive Keywords: NeXT CDROM Macintosh Organization: SmartSoft, Inc. Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 14:25:21 GMT Netland, I am trying to connect a NeXT CDROM to a Mac 660AV. As far as I know, the NeXT CD drive is the same external unit that is (was) shipped by Apple. SCSIProbe reports the device is a: SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 version 2.6a Any idea as to what I have to do to get this guy to work? Please reply to me: alberto@SmartSoft.COM Thanks!! -- Alberto Ricart SmartSoft, Inc. 2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 27 May 1994 18:07:46 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s5ctiINNj3a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <2rv0kpINNlec@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2s556k$5bb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <2s556k$5bb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: |> |> So with any of those high-end sound cards you simply couldn't get better |> sound than with a SB16 e.g., the only significant difference is e.g. the |> quality of the filters, but the real value of the card is the synthesizer |> part. If you'd ever listened to both a SB16 and a Turtle Beach running at the same sampling rate/depth for digital record and playback, you'd know better than to say that. There's a heck of a lot more to digital record/playback alone than bits and kHz (and no, "quality of the filters" doesn't even begin to scratch the surface). As someone else has pointed out, the only way to get truly high-quality digital record/playback is to go to a solution with external A/D and D/A, but most people can't afford that kind of capability. Turtle Beach appears to offer the best self-contained solution. |> |> -- |> | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | |> | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | |> | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | |> | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P H-P San Diego
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 27 May 1994 20:47:51 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s5m9n$4j7@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <2rv0kpINNlec@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2s556k$5bb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote: : If I got the right idea from my experiences with 'sound' and NEXTSTEP, a : SoundKit driver for those proposed high-end cards would be nothing but a : 'toy'. The SoundKit only provides routines for accessing recording and : playback facilities. Those facilities are just a low percentage of the : potential of e.g. the Turtle Beach. The Wavetable part, i.e. the : synthesizer is just NOT USED AT ALL in NEXTSTEP. Oh, geez. If features were the cost of a sound card, sure. But they're not. The wavetable playback, or FM synthesis, or speech recognition, etc., can all be done for very cheap. This is the toy part of a sound card. The real part of a sound card, and the part that creates the cost increases, is the quality of the sound ADCs and DACs. This, of course, is precisely what the SoundKit is for. So if you're looking for whiz-bang synthesizer features, buy a synthesizer. If you're looking for a quality way to do recording a playback, get a good sound card. I think that it's very important to make a driver that can off-load as much onto the card as possible. In particular: sound mixing. NeXT is doing it on the 486 now that the 56001 is gone, and it STINKS. Another very important item: good up-to-date information on sound status (amplitude, samples played, etc.). It's pretty poor now that it's on the 486. : It was used in the : MusicKit, but there's no Intel version (since there's no common hardware : platform as the 56001 was on the black hardware). Sure there is, and not only that, CCRMA is working on drivers for specific cards. I suggest you contact them. : So with any of those high-end sound cards you simply couldn't get better : sound than with a SB16 e.g., the only significant difference is e.g. the : quality of the filters, but the real value of the card is the synthesizer : part. Also the threshold of the DACs, etc., makes a BIG difference, seperating the men from the boys. The SB16 is a cheapo card sound-quality-wise. : So: Sorry Talus, but SoundKit drivers are IMHO a just a nice add-on, and : should be no more than $30 ;-). Sound was a great thing on NeXTs, even with not-so-good DACs and really poor ADCs. It inspired a community. It's not a trivial thing! And it certainly deserves better than a $30 sound driver.... :-) ...coming to you from a NeXTSTEP PC with no sound card at all :-( +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, <- finger for PGP key | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Urgent: Next PC hangs during boot Date: 27 May 1994 21:20:00 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <2s5o60$7c5@network.ucsd.edu> I rebooted one of our Next PC's after changing the address of the additional serial port (COM2) to 0x2f8 in the Configure.app. Now the system hangs during boot while displaying the message 'Configuring Device Drivers'. If I boot with config=Default, the computer hangs with the message 'panic: Cpu(0) vfs_mount_root: cannot mount root' and 'Kernel Panic Exception...waiting for remote debugger connection. Type 'c' to continue or 'r' to reboot'. Typing 'c' at this stage only repeats the last message, while typing 'r' reboots the machine. How do I get the system back up? Any ideas? jk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2s25kc$h31@usenet.rpi.edu> <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 22:22:33 GMT In article <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: [ ] >The bandwidth is not the problem. But if you have an ISA machine with >two busmastering cards, e.g. 1542 and PAS16, you're in trouble. >ISA is just a sort of shit, but no bus architecture. I'd love to have >an EISA sound card, and others would love to have a PCI one. Very, very few sound cards are busmastering cards. I think it would be most unwise to force people into getting a PCI or EISA sound card. It's not as though these are common! The PC sound standard is the Sound Blaster. There are a zillion variations on the theme,...I do feel that at some point someone will write a SB() driver, so the issue may not be as critical as one thinks. However it would be nice to have good sound, and sound at an affordable price. The 2 cards which come to mind are: (1) The Gravis Ultrasound (Max) (2) An OPL4 based card like the AudioTrix Pro. Both cards will provide you with Digital sound ( the AudioTrix Pro from MediaTriX has a Wavetable built in as part of the card- 2megs of GM or MT32 sounds and an optional RAM daughtercard). It does not function, at this time, as a 100% WSS card in NEXTSTEP (but does in other OS's) but it will play back sound. You simply can't record with it, now. It's an inexpensive card ($270CDN-x.72 for US $) with very good 800 support and a receptive NS group. It has not crashed my system once, even when I had it with another sound card in there! Lot's of IRQ and DMA choices. Clearly, I am biased towards #2, but I can see the case for #1. I see no case for the MultiSound (too expensive), PCI sound cards ( this is truly a poor use of a PCI bus- same for VL), MediaVision cards- we all know what they do, etc...There are very nice cards from Roland, but again you are talking a lot of money. In short, pick a card that is inexpenisve, has Wavetable built in, and isn't made by Creative Labs. >Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking >mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thssjlb@iitmax.iit.edu (John L Buntic) Subject: Converting differential to single-ended scsi, will it work? Message-ID: <1994May27.220953.3663@iitmax.iit.edu> Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 27 May 94 22:09:53 GMT I just received my Micropolis 2112D drive yesterday but it won't work with my Adaptec 1542CF scsi card. I heard there are cards out there that will convert the Micropolis drive to a single-ended drive. If I do this, will NS for Intel still work on my system even though the drive is working through the converter? Also, does anyone know of any vendors that sells these types of cards? Thanks for your time. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | John L Buntic | "Health nuts are going to feel stupid one day,| | thssjlb@iitmax.acc.iit.edu | lying in hospital beds dying of nothing." | | If it feels good, do it! | -Redd Foxx| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Message-ID: <1994May27.200540.9548@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <2s5ctiINNj3a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 20:05:40 GMT In article <2s5ctiINNj3a@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) writes: > In article <2s556k$5bb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > |> > |> So with any of those high-end sound cards you simply couldn't get better > |> sound than with a SB16 e.g., the only significant difference is e.g. the > |> quality of the filters, but the real value of the card is the synthesizer > |> part. > > If you'd ever listened to both a SB16 and a Turtle Beach running at the same > sampling rate/depth for digital record and playback, you'd know better than > to say that. There's a heck of a lot more to digital record/playback alone > than bits and kHz (and no, "quality of the filters" doesn't even begin to > scratch the surface). As someone else has pointed out, the only way to get > truly high-quality digital record/playback is to go to a solution with > external A/D and D/A, but most people can't afford that kind of capability. > Turtle Beach appears to offer the best self-contained solution. > > |> > |> -- > |> | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | > |> | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | > |> | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | > |> | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P > H-P San Diego With a Turtle Beach you're paying for a lot of stuff that the Intel sound drivers cannot access (basically all that an Intel sound driver is called upon to do is read/write sampled sound). Isn't there a middle-ground here; that is, a sound board with a good ADC, a good codec, maybe a DSP (for some future interface), but without the wave-table and FM stuff the NextStep/Intel doesn't use? Serge J. Goldstein
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black Date: 28 May 1994 00:36:51 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2s63n3$mg2@news.service.uci.edu> Keywords: panic, DAT, tar NeXTStation 040 mono, Conner Python 2.0G DAT. Just got this DAT and was doing as root gnutar cvf /dev/rst0 / / directory contains two NFS mounts on two other machines, two local disks, total space < 2.0 G byte. System panics in the middle of gnutar. The problem seems to be random. I was able to do the tar with each of the local disks, never seemed to have a panic. But system occasionally panics when doing tar (or gnutar) with the NSF mounts. I am running NeXTSTEP 3.2. System also panicked when I was doing rdump from an SGI Indigo to the DAT on the NeXT. When it panics it says (CPU0) bus error. Any help is appreciated. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next,comp.periphs.scsi From: mania.wy.in-berlin.de!grisu (Gernot A. Pohl) Subject: dead HD on DPT2122 Message-ID: <1994May27.165651.510@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> Keywords: HD, DPT Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl) Organization: YW Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 16:56:51 GMT Ooops, I ve got a (soft) dead SCSI HD (IBM 0662-S12) within our NeXT-PC. Last action was a fsck, interrupted by RESET! Even the controler BIOS at startup says: "SCSI-ID4 not responding"! What to do??? -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.UQF,5QF M=&5C:"!3>6UB;VP[?0I<;6%R9VPQ,C`*7&UA<F=R,3(P"EQP87)D7'1X,3$U M,EQT>#(S,#1<='@S-#4V7'1X-#8P.%QT>#4W-C!<='@V.3$R7'1X.#`V-%QT M>#DR,39<='@Q,#,V.%QT>#$Q-3(P7&8P7&(P7&DP7'5L;F]N95QF<S(T7&9C M,%QC9C`@7`I/;V]P<RP@2<)V92!G;W0@82`H<V]F="D@9&5A9"!30U-)($A$ M("A)0DT@,#8V,@I<9C$@+0I<9C`@4S$R*2!W:71H:6X@;W5R($YE6%0M4$,N M7`I,87-T(&%C=&EO;B!W87,@82!F<V-K+"!I;G1E<G)U<'1E9"!B>2!215-% M5"%<"D5V96X@=&AE(&-O;G1R;VQE<B!"24]3(&%T('-T87)T=7`@<V%Y<SH@ M(E-#4TDM240T(&YO="!R97-P;VYD:6YG(B%<"EP*7`I7:&%T('1O(&1O/S\_ #"GT* ` -- .. viel Spasz! > Grisu grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de \_/ alt.: grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de Gernot A. Pohl
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Are there such things as "Briefcase" computers? Date: 28 May 1994 01:54:08 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2s6880$att@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I have been researching possible laptop possibilites for running NEXTSTEP, but all of them have resolution limitations that I don't want to deal with. I can't stand looking at a 9-12 inch screen with lets say 800x600 resolution, where only 1/3 of a window will fit onto the screen. I would really like a portable computer that has a 15-17 inch screen, and enough space for a GB hard drive and 24-32 megs memory. So, I was wondering if there are such things as "briefcase" computers? Portables that are about as large as a briefcase (allowing a 17 inch screen) and weighing less than 20 pounds. It wouldn't even need to be powered by a battery, I would just want to be able to plug it in wherever I go. Also, I know there are such things as docking stations for portables, but this is not what I am looking for.... So, anyone know of any briefcase computers available? Eric
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <2s5v58$1ql@cobber.cord.edu> Control: cancel <2s5v58$1ql@cobber.cord.edu> Date: 27 May 1994 18:21:22 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2s5v9j$1rk@cobber.cord.edu> <2s5v58$1ql@cobber.cord.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
From: doroin@cobber.cord.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DEC & DELL for hi-end systems (was Re: New Sound Board from Talus) Date: 27 May 1994 18:31:42 -0500 Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota Distribution: na Message-ID: <2s5vsu$207@cobber.cord.edu> References: <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> <2s3l9g$49v@network.ucsd.edu> In article <2s3l9g$49v@network.ucsd.edu>, [...] > >I'm potentially interested in a Pentium90 workstation. I'm used to Suns and >I'm suspicious of the mangy-cat-that-came-in-with-the-trash hardware on >Intel, but the cost difference is too hard to ignore. >So what would be a good configuration that has workstation-like performance >and reliability, say for a PCI SCSI adapter, video, ethernet and whatever >else? > >I.e. I want to know not what will work with NS/I, but what NS/I really likes. > >Windows benchmarks aren't all that relevant, I would think. If I didn't have "legacy" software and other investments in the PC platform I'd leave it well alone. I've just finalized a purchase on a fully decked out DECpcXL Server machine but with the amount I'm paying for it I could get a base HP 712/80, or two base HP 712/60's, or two base Sun SPARCstation 5's (though I do get significant academic discounts on these). If timing was not of importance, I'd personally wait for the HP port. But, as in my case, if you need a machine now, I'd look at the NeXT certified machines or soon to be certified machines. Specifically, the DECpcXL or the DELL Optiplex and Omniplex (this one is FCC class A). Both systems (the DECpcXL and DELL Omniplex) are PCI/EISA based and have the onboard NCR PCI SCSI controller for which TALUS has a driver. For video, a lot of people have been happy with the PCI miroCrystal 32s card. And for ethernet cards, the intel EtherExpress card seems to be the fastest ISA card. In a related post (Fastest Ethernet Card for Intel), Rory Gibson claims the EISA Cogent eMaster card is fast and that the new Cogent PCI cards will have drivers. > >-Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu Well, I hope the above gave you some pointers. Happy shopping. Note: I'm just another NeXTSTEP customer who has spent close to a year shopping for a system that could equal the NeXTDimension. -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail) -- Jonathan A. Doroin doroin@cobber.cord.edu doroin@wonka.cord.edu (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jf@yesman.fdn.org (Jean-Francois_Coulange) Subject: Looking for original fax modem for Next, Dove or HSD Message-ID: <1994May26.135414.3725@yesman.fdn.org> Sender: news@yesman.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Paris, France. Distribution: fr Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 13:54:14 GMT Bonjour Je cherche un modem fax pour mon Next, de pr f rence Dove ou HSD, ou autre proposition confirm e.... A tout de suite. Looking for original fax modem for Next, Dove or HSD... good price and in perfect order.... Shipping accepted. Talk to you soon..... -- Jean-Fran ois Coulange Il n'est pas de plus grand malheur Noblesse Oblige que de perdre son temps T l : (1) 40.60.00.63 fax : (1) 40.60.03.62 Leonardo da Vinci Paris - France
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: a2833ae@nextmm.lrz-muenchen.de (Peter Beham) Subject: syquest prodrive40 on black hardware possible? Message-ID: <1994May28.130537.6385@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Sender: news@news.lrz-muenchen.de (Mr. News) Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 13:05:37 GMT I ve got a syquest prodrive40, connected it to my NeXTstation via the SCSI-port and the station couldn t boot anymore. Can anybody give me an advice? peter (a2833ae@next1.lrz-muenchen.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tsikes@netcom.com (Terry Sikes) Subject: Re: Driver for UltraStore SCSI Adapter? Message-ID: <tsikesCqIqrD.666@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <2rvn30$m14@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 15:23:37 GMT In article <2rvn30$m14@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>, Ralph Michael Keller <rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch> wrote: >Hi everybody! > >I am looking for a NSFIP-Driver for the Ultra Store F34 VL SCSI-Adapter. >Does such a driver exists? Are there any other compatible drivers? > >Thanks for helping... >- Ralph (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch) I'd like to know about this also! (Talus???) -- Terry Sikes == tsikes@netcom.com | All I want is a baseline 1/1/1 machine: Alternate address: tsikes@fatcity.com | 1000 MIPS, 1000 MB RAM, and 1000 GB HD. Also tlsikes@bix.com, tsikes@aol.com | All my opinions reflect my views only!| Is that too much to ask?
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 12:36:48 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ohtrAUO00iUvM1MScS@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2s63n3$mg2@news.service.uci.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-May-94 panic doing gnutar with DAT.. by Feng Liu@jedi.eng.uci.ed > NeXTStation 040 mono, Conner Python 2.0G DAT. > Just got this DAT and was doing as root > gnutar cvf /dev/rst0 / > > / directory contains two NFS mounts on two other machines, two > local disks, total space < 2.0 G byte. > > System panics in the middle of gnutar. "If it hurts, don't do it" is a pretty good rule to follow. I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are there such things as "Briefcase" computers? Date: 28 May 1994 19:19:13 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2s85fh$eqc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <2s6880$att@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2s6880$att@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) writes: > I have been researching possible laptop possibilites for running NEXTSTEP, > but all of them have resolution limitations that I don't want to deal > with. I can't stand looking at a 9-12 inch screen with lets say 800x600 > resolution, where only 1/3 of a window will fit onto the screen. I would I haven't even seen a laptop that offers 800x600 screen resolution. They all seem to be 640x480 in various greyscale and 8-bit color varieties. I think 800x600 8-bit greyscale would be quite usable as a laptop NEXTSTEP system, assuming reasonable video performance and at least a 486DX33 CPU. > really like a portable computer that has a 15-17 inch screen, and enough > space for a GB hard drive and 24-32 megs memory. It's the screen size that is the limiting factor. The only large flat panel displays are unbelievably expensive, and limited to 1-bit resolution. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: dlynn@grep.valverde.edu (Darrell Lynn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ND and NTSC Out/In Date: 28 May 1994 20:08:43 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <2s88cb$prr@galaxy.ucr.edu> Keywords: ND NTSC Our group has several ND NeXTcubes. We need to take the output from the NeXT and output to a VCR. We are using ScreenScape.app and taking the signal from the NeXTdimension board to the input on a VCR. We are getting a lot of screen roll. We have tried using the S-VHS output to an S-VHS input and note some improvement. We have also tried running a line from the output of the VCR to the input on the ND board and checked the genlock setting on the app. None of the options have produced any appreciable improvement in output. Does anyone have an answer as how to get true NTSC output from the ND without screen roll? To those who respond, we truly appreciate taking the time to help. -- Darrell Lynn Director of Information Technology Val Verde Unified Voice: 909-940-6100, x239 School District FAX: 909-940-6119
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gmat@maestro.maestro.com (Giorgio Matsuda) Subject: Soundcard under NS/FIP Message-ID: <CqJ3IJ.66v@maestro.maestro.com> Organization: Maestro Technologies, Inc. Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 19:59:07 GMT I have a 486/66 EISA machine running NeXTSTEP on it. I use a SoundBlaster Pro card under MSDOS when I am forced to use that system, but would like toadd a new sound card that works under NeXTSTEP and can also do SoundBlaster Pro emulation so that I could continue to use software that needs that card under MSDOS. I know about the ProAudioSpectrum card, is there some special model that works better than another, or else what other cards are available thatwould work better? I am not looking for a $1000 DSP home music studio card, just a $100-$300 normal soundcard that will make bring up the sound system on the nextstep side to what I'm used to under the black hardware. I have heard that there are some possible conflicts with different hardware, so if it matters I am using a DPT 2022 SCSI card and a Intel EISA ethernet card. Thanks
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542 vs 2842 Date: 28 May 1994 10:23:53 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2s72j9$fb2@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <CqFI5K.LI@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) writes: >I am about to buy a Vesa Local Bus Pentium machine and I need a harddrive >controller for it. >I know that there is no official driver for the 2842 card yet. Is there >one in the works, or does anyone know if this card is compatible with the >1542. I may just end up getting the 1542 to be safe. Why don't you consider buying a BusLogic 445S? A freeware driver exists for this board. Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: rob@clubside.digex.net (Rob Crittenden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 SCSI Support? Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 18:35:51 Organization: Clubside Message-ID: <rob.4.00129989@clubside.digex.net> Summary: is pas supported Keywords: scsi support Hello, I just received NeXTStep for Intel on Friday, and I talked to Andy Creach at NeXT about supported SCSI controllers for installation. I asked if the Pro Audio Spectrum 16's scsi was supported, and after checking with someone he said yes. However, this hasn't worked. The drive works fine uder DOS. NeXT says "No SCSI or CD-ROM." Is there a fix? Is it the Pro Audio Studio from Mediavision that's supported? Is the Adapted 152x series supported? The bottom line is that an Adapted 1542 is $359 vs. $99 for a sound card. Since all I want is the CD for installation (I have 3 IDE hard drives), I don't think that's reasonable money to hang a $299 CD-ROM off of. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bbrown@solana.com Subject: Toshiba T440C Install problem: no mouse Distribution: fj Message-ID: <geetha.94May28232312@ganesha> Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (System Administrator) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 23:23:12 GMT Hi, I am trying to install a Toshiba T4400C portable. The setup is as follows: 20 meg ram floppy docking station 1540B SCSI in docking station SCSI Apple CD300 CD-ROM mouse plugged into docking station After the initial install, NeXTStep displays the configure app and invites me to change the configuration of the machine. This is the first point in the install when the mouse must work. Unfortunately, it does not. I have tried two different mice one of which works fine with my DEC MTE d2. Has anyone nstalled this machine successfully? It is a "listed" system. Any suggestions? Bill Brown bbrown@solana.com
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/I boot manager eraised after upgrading DOS 6.0 to 6.2 Date: 29 May 1994 07:02:28 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2s9em4$cmp@news.service.uci.edu> Two partitions on a 420MB IDE Drive: DOS 6.0 --- 100MB Rest is NS/I. I just upgraded the DOS 6.0 partition to DOS 6.2 by using an upgrade floppy. After upgrading everything works fine except the original NS/I boot manager is gone. I can not choose to boot DOS or NS/I. Instead I have to use fdisk to set the active partition in order to change from DOS to NS/I or vice versa. Is there any way to get back the NS bootmanager? Thank you. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: How to use Next 21" monitor on a PC ??? Message-ID: <CqE18t.2Kx@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <Cq8K1s.7J0@world.std.com> Distribution: na Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 02:22:04 GMT In article <Cq8K1s.7J0@world.std.com> sja@world.std.com (Stuart J Adams) writes: #Is there a way to use the 21" Color monitor on my Next #cube on a PC running Windows ??? I assume I would need #to by a special VGA card which was capable of running #the Next fixed freq. montior. # #Thanks, # Stuart Adams # sja@world.std.com # A card with a programmable scan rate would work. I currently have a fixed freq. Wyse workstation monitor on my other machine (PC running windoze). You will need two monitors initially to set up the system. The NeXT monitor will act weird in text modes since PCs use a different mode to display text. You will need the utility that comes with the card to try out different scan frequencies. I don't know what card will work though. I am using a card no longer available and if it was you wouldn't want to use it anyway, it's ISA not VLB or PCI. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego Martin Zamboni) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS on Gateway Pentiums? Date: 29 May 1994 14:29:42 GMT Organization: UNIVERSIDAD NACIONAL AUTONOMA DE MEXICO Message-ID: <2sa8sm$1pec@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> Hi: Has somebody used NS on Gateway Pentium machines? I'm really attracted to them by the PCI and the low price, but would like to hear comments (positive or negative) from people who has used them. Thanks! -- Diego Martin Zamboni Depto. de Administracion de Supercomputo diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx DGSCA, UNAM, Mexico. Tel. (5)622-85-29 WWW home page: http://www.super.unam.mx/~diego/
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black Date: 29 May 1994 15:10:38 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2sab9e$7pc@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <ohtrAUO00iUvM1MScS@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <ohtrAUO00iUvM1MScS@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-May-94 panic doing >gnutar with DAT.. by Feng Liu@jedi.eng.uci.ed >> NeXTStation 040 mono, Conner Python 2.0G DAT. >> Just got this DAT and was doing as root >> gnutar cvf /dev/rst0 / >> >> / directory contains two NFS mounts on two other machines, two >> local disks, total space < 2.0 G byte. >> >> System panics in the middle of gnutar. > >"If it hurts, don't do it" is a pretty good rule to follow. > >I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS >mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted >filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used. > I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly. I once was backing up my complete root file system with "dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID files got mix up..... Did NeXT fix this?? -- //|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu // || // @ //==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!" // || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS on ASUS PCI Board ? Date: 29 May 1994 15:39:26 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2sacve$112@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hi! Has anybody installed NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a machine that has the ASUS PCI/I-486SP3/33 as motherboard using the onboard NCR SCSI Chip. Two people told me, that they have problems with their CD-ROMs. One of these were told by Talus, that he can't expect the driver to work on this ASUS board. I'm still waiting on my HD and when it comes I want to be able to install NS on it. Thank you, Michael
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Soundcard under NS/FIP Date: 29 May 1994 16:33:54 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2sag5i$3nh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <CqJ3IJ.66v@maestro.maestro.com> : I have a 486/66 EISA machine running NeXTSTEP on it. I use a SoundBlaster Pro : card under MSDOS when I am forced to use that system, but would like toadd a : new sound card that works under NeXTSTEP and can also do SoundBlaster Pro : emulation so that I could continue to use software that needs that card under : MSDOS. : I am not looking for a $1000 DSP home music studio card, just a $100-$300 : normal soundcard that will make bring up the sound system on the nextstep side : to what I'm used to under the black hardware. Try the AudioTrixPro from Mediatrix (819-829-TRIX). They were haveing a sale on that card until 6/1/94 for $195, normal price $295 US. They are in Canada so call monday or tuesday and talk to them. It supports the MSS driver that comes on e installation CD for v3.2 Intel. ALthough I am not a music person, I think it sounds good. It uses the new Yamaha OPL-4? chip and can do general midi really well.... There is a special driver from MediaTrix that allows recording, a bugfix I guess, but I haven't seen it yet. In DOS/WIN (yuck) it works really well, using both wave table and FM systh. I use it for General Midi in both DOOM for DOS and Indaycar Racing for DOS (The real 500 race is on live as I speak), and sounds great. I fired up all the windows programs that came with it, and they sound comparable to the Gravis I had before this, I'm happy. Gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: alf@drdhh.hanse.de (Ulf Zimmermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2740 and DECpcXL Server Date: 29 May 1994 01:36:30 +0200 Organization: The ministry of silly hostnames Distribution: na Message-ID: <2s8khu$r44@drdhh.hanse.de> References: <2s0nga$7a5@cobber.cord.edu> Regarding driver for Adaptec 2740 and 2840, i am in the last test phase for the driver. In the next days ich will post a ANNOUCE for beta tester for this driver. Bye, ALF. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Shumway Research, ALF Zimmermann, Uferstr. 21c, 22081 Hamburg, Germany Tel.: +49 40 2999 0310, Fax.: +49 40 292815 email: alf@gordon.ppp.de
From: alf@drdhh.hanse.de (Ulf Zimmermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64bit S3 chip Date: 29 May 1994 01:43:54 +0200 Organization: The ministry of silly hostnames Message-ID: <2s8kvq$r4s@drdhh.hanse.de> References: <FZUST.17.00097EC9@clemsonsc.ncr.com> <tsikesCq47E7.5yy@netcom.com> tsikes@netcom.com (Terry Sikes) writes: >In article <FZUST.17.00097EC9@clemsonsc.ncr.com>, >Zeus <FZUST@ClemsonSC.NCR.COM> wrote: >>Is there a NeXTSTEP driver for the 64bit S3 chip, PCI? If so, where? >I'm interested in this also. In particular is the Diamond Stealth 64 >card supported? If not now, will it be? I called NeXT, but I got the >(apparently usual) 'we can neither confirm nor deny' type of >response... >Thanks for any responses... Miro has the new card 20S and 40S, they both use the S3 64 bit chip and they have also a driver for nextstep. bye, alf. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shumway Research, ALF Zimmermann, Uferstr. 21c, 22081 Hamburg, Germany Tel.: +49 40 2999 0310, Fax.: +49 40 292815 email: alf@gordon.ppp.de
From: lestat@cs.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS on Gateway Pentiums? Date: 29 May 1994 17:24:24 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2saj48$hq6@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <2sa8sm$1pec@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> In article <2sa8sm$1pec@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego Martin Zamboni) writes: > Hi: > Has somebody used NS on Gateway Pentium machines? I'm really attracted > to them by the PCI and the low price, but would like to hear comments > (positive or negative) from people who has used them. > > Thanks! > > -- > Diego Martin Zamboni Depto. de Administracion de Supercomputo > diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx DGSCA, UNAM, Mexico. Tel. (5)622-85-29 > WWW home page: http://www.super.unam.mx/~diego/ I've been using NeXTSTEP on a Gateway P5-60 for about 5-6 months now without any problems. My configuration is: Gateway P5-60 ATI PCI AX0 DPT 2021 To use the ATI, I'm using a modified driver. The changes were posted on the net a while back (and a very BIG thanks to Alexander Keiblinger for those postings). I'm able to use the card in 8-bit greyscale at 1120x832. I'm satisfied with that for now. To use the DPT 2021 SCSI controller took a little bit more effort for me. I had a problem installing with that card, so I ended up installing NS/I with an Adaptec 1542 card, and then changed the driver in Configure.app and swapped out the cards (BTW, installation with the Adaptec was a snap). I've been quite satisfied with my setup. It's been working without any problems for about 5 months now. The only thing I'm longing for is color at the higher resolutions, but I can wait for now. Hope that helps, Faizel Dakri lestat@cs.utexas.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 13:54:51 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2sab9e$7pc@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Re: panic doing gnutar with.. by Waihon A Kwong@magnus.ac > >I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS > >mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted > >filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used. > > I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with > SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly. > I once was backing up my complete root file system with > "dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID > files got mix up..... I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next? Oh, I suppose I should mention that there is a pretty highly regarded backup product available called SafetyNet. I don't use it myself, but perhaps some other people will comment on it. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems doing backups Date: 29 May 1994 18:43:04 GMT Organization: Lab for Computer Science, MIT Message-ID: <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu> References: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu> In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Sun, 29 May 1994 13:54:51 -0400 > >I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS > >mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted > >filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used. > > I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with > SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly. > I once was backing up my complete root file system with > "dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID > files got mix up..... I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next? I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root. I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar." You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due to this little problem. You will also note the personal-computer every-man-looks-out-for-his-own-files attitude here. Tar is not useful for efficiently making incremental backups of large filesystems without detailed knowledge of what directories are NFS mount points. Dump is. In any event, I replied to the NeXT support guy, "I can't use tar. It flushes files with pathnames longer than 100 chars." (Which indeed happens, for example, if you keep NS apps in your home directory.) Then he said (but only after I had brought the issue up), "Right. You should use gnu tar." Of course, gnu tar isn't POSIX compliant; it keeps its archives in some other pre-POSIX format. Gnu tar is supposed to provide facilities for doing making incremental archives. I don't know how if it can be told to not follow NFS mount points. It doesn't matter. There's no documentation for it, so there's no way to use these fancy features. I checked the NS documentation. I checked on the FSF ftp machines. No manual. No documentation. So I can't use gnutar for doing incremental dumps. (I did find a note saying that a manual is being written; maybe I'm out of date.) Finally, I would note that NeXT's rdump doesn't use a network protocol that is compatible with Sun's, so you can't rdump across the net to a tape drive mounted on a Sparc. You have to have your very own tape drive, mounted on a NeXT system. Maybe this isn't NeXT's fault; maybe Sun's rdump protocol is proprietary or something. I don't know. But it's irritating. I wandered around in backup space for about two weeks a couple of months ago, when we first set up our NeXT systems. I was not impressed. Every single one of the solutions that comes with NeXT has big problems. Doing backups is a basic, important thing. Why is it so difficult? -Olin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542 vs 2842 Message-ID: <CqKtvv.C1L@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Organization: University of Waterloo References: <CqFI5K.LI@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <2s72j9$fb2@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 18:26:19 GMT In article <2s72j9$fb2@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, Markus Wenzel <mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org> wrote: >mataylor@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Taylor=) writes: > >>I am about to buy a Vesa Local Bus Pentium machine and I need a harddrive >>controller for it. > >>I know that there is no official driver for the 2842 card yet. Is there >>one in the works, or does anyone know if this card is compatible with the >>1542. I may just end up getting the 1542 to be safe. > >Why don't you consider buying a BusLogic 445S? >A freeware driver exists for this board. > I got information on the driver for NEXTSTEP from nextanswers. I assume that this is the driver that you are speaking of. There are two problems with getting this card. The first is finding somewhere to actually buy one, and the second is that there are problems with the newer BIOS and firmware on the cards. I do not have the time to deal with that sort of problem. from nextanswers: BIOS version 4.70 and firmware version 3.37 are incompatible with NEXTSTEP. Bus Tech users need to change their BIOS and firmware to: BIOS: 4.50 firmware: 3.31 /\/\ike Taylor mataylor@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robinson@netcom.com (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Whats up with DayDream? Anyone have it? What do ya think? Message-ID: <robinsonCqKvpp.AwC@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <2rhn1b$nob@spock.dis.cccd.edu> <1994May20.214650.9084@iitmax.iit.edu> Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 19:05:49 GMT Chris Conley (thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu) wrote: : Hello world, : I just ordered Daydream on Monday afternoon by faxing QUIX and it arrived : today. : Took about a half hour to read the documentation and about a half hour to : set everything up and feel comfortable pressing the "go" menu item. : In about one minute, I was staring at the Mac Desktop. Well, things aren't : interesting unless one runs some software, so I took Vellum off my Mac : and installed it on my virtual Mac. : Bada bing ... Vellum starts up nice and quick. I load a drawing I did : 3 months ago. Everything seems to work great..... : I haven't tried Daydream on my TurboColor yet to see how color performance is. : But my two bit gray scale Mac is nice and snappy. : In a nutshell, if you need intermittent Mac functionality at what seems to be : Quadra speeds, I highly reccomend getting Daydream. : Kudos to Quix, : Chris Conley : Institute of Design : Chicago Well I have been working with it in a 16 meg 040 cube for about a month and I have a couple of complaints. The memory management is not yet running correctly even though the configuration software says I should be getting 13 megs to use while I'm runnig in Mac mode, I only get 6 megs. The networking is just a little flakey - I am still unable to run Bolo on my thinnet connection to the other Macs in my shop. Before you start flaming me about using a game to test the net usability -- I feel Stuart wrote a very simple and functional set of diagnostics that let us "SEE" when the network is really working. I also have not been able to reliably get personal appleshare to work to any of the other 3 Macs on the ethernet all using Asante' ethernet boards. The NeXT/Mac will work for a while and then the connection will just hang. All in all I really feel that Day Dream is a neat product and I would recommend it highly - it works well and feels like a Quadra. Paul Robinson
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems doing backups Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 17:30:06 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Problems doing backups by Olin Shivers@lcs.mit.edu > I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and > restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next? > > I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root. > I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar." Ack! Time to make alternative arangements for doing backups.... > You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has > thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any > mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due > to this little problem. Yes. Sigh...SafetyNet is sounding much more attractive now that you and NeXT has confirmed that dump has problems. Thanks, -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems doing backups Date: 30 May 1994 04:49:51 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <2sbr9f$9di@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu>, ......DELETE lots of stuffs........................ >Yes. Sigh...SafetyNet is sounding much more attractive now that you and >NeXT has confirmed that dump has problems. > Did anybody who used SaftetyNet confirm me that this software allows me to "dump" the root file system, and "restore" it on a different, say a new disk? If I have only one SCSI disk, which is my root file system, I believe I have to do the dump in sinle user mode......then my question is that can I run SafetyNet in single user mode? (I thought it is a real NeXTAPP....) -- //|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu // || // @ //==||/\\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!" // || \\ @ "BUT MY NeXTMAIL IS NOT WORKING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: leigh@thylacine.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <1994May30.053120.17180@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> Sender: usenet@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia. References: <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 05:31:20 GMT In article <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > In article <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: > > [ ] > > Clearly, I am biased towards #2, but I can see the case for #1. I see no > case for the MultiSound (too expensive), PCI sound cards ( this is truly > a poor use of a PCI bus- same for VL), MediaVision cards- we all know what > they do, etc...There are very nice cards from Roland, but again you are > talking a lot of money. Well, let me propose a case for the Multisound. Compatibility with existing DSP based applications running on black hardware. At present, NS/FIP people are in a very poor position regarding sound and especially _music_, with the lack of a standard 56K DSP card preventing the musickit from running and therefore most of the NeXT music software, and lack of a MIDI interface driver for NS/FIP - at least there is a standard card - the Roland MPU-401, but alas, no driver! The turtle beach Multisound at least provides DSP (but no SP/DIF digital I/O). > -- > Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) > philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu > [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...] -- Leigh Smith NeXTMail: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au Computer Science Dept Phone: +61-9-380-1945,Fax:+61-9-380-1089 University of Home NeXTMail:leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au Western Australia Home Phone: +61-9-382-3071 *--=----=----=----=----=----=---====---=----=----=----=----=----=----=--*
From: cdl@triton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems doing backups Date: 29 May 1994 23:09:03 -0700 Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego Message-ID: <2sbvtv$bfl@triton.ucsd.edu> References: <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <QhuEZS200iV401tXkX@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Problems doing >backups by Olin Shivers@lcs.mit.edu >> I have never ran into such a problem. I assume you did the dump and >> restore as root, right? Have you sent email to bug-next? >> >> I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root. >> I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar." > >Ack! Time to make alternative arangements for doing backups.... > >> You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has >> thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any >> mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due >> to this little problem. Hey, guys, relax. Somebody at NeXT screwed up restore for NS3.2, with respect to suid bits. It was OK for 3.1, 3.0, 2.1, 2.0, 1.0a, my experience doesn't go back any further. So now there is a patched version of restore available at ftp.next.com. Or you could use the NS3.1 dump and restore. Excerpts from tonight's FTP session show the following information. ftp> pwd 257 "/pub/NeXTanswers/CompressedFiles/Patches/RestorePatch.29807.16" is current directory. ftp> dir 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. total 147 -rw-r--r-- 1 na submit 2063 May 9 17:17 1554_RestorePatch.ReadMe.compressed -rw-r--r-- 1 na submit 132455 May 9 17:17 1555_RestorePatch.pkg.compressed So there it is. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego {decvax|ucbvax} !ucsd!mpl!cdl cdl@mpl.ucsd.edu clowenstein@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: connecting a CLC 350 on a NeXTStep Computer without IPU Message-ID: <1994May29.212648.296@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 21:26:48 GMT Hie, I works in a service bureau company. We just buy a Canon CLC 350. We want tu use it as a printer (we actually work on MACs). Since the IPU prince (efi fiery) is very high, i thought of buying an NS/FIP PC with Dots. Does anybody has done such a thing ? What port must i use to "talk" to CLC (SCSI ?) Does it is fast? (we plan to buy a PENTIUM or HPPA) ? What s the price of the adobe extra-licence and the DOT s licence ? What s the price of the IPT module to setup an AppleTalk printer server ? Before buying the computer, we ll try with my oolldd NeXTStation, so if anybody as experienced this on NeXT... Email-me and if i got interesting things, I ll post summary. Thanks -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: NS on ASUS PCI Board ? Message-ID: <1994May30.030418.1593@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2sacve$112@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 03:04:18 GMT In article <2sacve$112@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) writes: > Hi! > > Has anybody installed NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a machine that has the > ASUS PCI/I-486SP3/33 as motherboard using the onboard NCR SCSI Chip. > > Two people told me, that they have problems with their CD-ROMs. > One of these were told by Talus, that he can't expect the driver to > work on this ASUS board. > > I'm still waiting on my HD and when it comes I want to be able to > install NS on it. True, I did tell him that, along with telling him that he should return the driver for a refund. Unfortunately, the PC world is NOT "plug and play". This is why we test the drivers on the hardware BEFORE we post that it's "compatible". Another part of the problem with companies like ASUS is that they may switch chips on their boards from days to day according to chip availibility....a common procedure among board manufacturers. This is a minor problem with Windows...it's a disaster when trying to run NS! We're seriously trying to do our best to support as many boards as we can and we're testing more machines every day. We always offer the following deal to hardware manufacturers: You pay the shipping and we'll test your hardware FOR FREE and get it working properly with our drivers for NS. Unfortunately, many, including Intel, have failed to take us up on this offer. If you have an Intel machine...tell them how much you appreciate their cooperation :-)) DELL provided us with the machines to test the drivers. To this day we haven't had ONE bug report. Cooperation like this is all we need to provide the NS community with drivers that perform flawlessly. Steve Sarich III Talus steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Problems doing backups (best solution) Message-ID: <1994May30.031428.1654@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 03:14:28 GMT Saw this post and just had to respond. Backups have ALWAYS been a problem for us and I finally tried SafetyNet from Systemix. This is one VERY cool program and I highly recommend it! It's made our backups easy enough for ME to do it! Before someone flames me....I have NO connection with Systemix whatsoever...other than being a happy customer. It's not free, but it's extremely reasonable :-)) Steve Sarich III Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation steve@talus.com P.S. Their email address is: info@sytemix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Soundcard under NS/FIP Message-ID: <CqLw30.B4s@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CqJ3IJ.66v@maestro.maestro.com> <2sag5i$3nh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 08:11:23 GMT In article <2sag5i$3nh@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) writes: [ ] >Try the AudioTrixPro from Mediatrix (819-829-TRIX). They also have an 800 number. I agree that this card is very nice. The 800 number is 800-820-8749. >They were haveing a sale on that card until 6/1/94 for $195, normal price >$295 US. They are in Canada so call monday or tuesday and talk to them. > >It supports the MSS driver that comes on e installation CD for v3.2 Intel. One of the things that this board excels at is the fact that it does not lock up the system, even on an ISA with Adaptec 1542CF combination! But, please note that recording is not supported (yet) by the board as the board is not fully supported by the NS WSS driver. First of all, the board does not identify itself to NS as a WSS ( it returns a value other than 04), but it still places sounds anyway as the NS driver attempts to deal with it. It does work as a WSS board in many other OS's, and I would suspect the NS driver will be revised in order to deal with WSS compatible boards. It should be painfully clear that the WSS board is hardly an interesting feat of technology at this point. In any case, recording is not supported and the gain on the board will be at its maximum. In short, the board is an excellent audio card, but it is not WSS compatible with NeXT's WSS driver. Even line in's are not suppported so that you couldn't record anyway unless you had a WSS mike ( if the driver worked). The problem is not with MediaTriX. It lies with the WSS driver, which one can only hope will be fixed. The list of supported audio cards is not large. I do find it interesting that even though the SB16 is not supported, you can play CD's just fine ( and use the volume control from the audio player) provided you do this in Windows first. >ALthough I am not a music person, I think it sounds good. It uses the new >Yamaha OPL-4? chip and can do general midi really well.... There is a >special driver from MediaTrix that allows recording, a bugfix I guess, but I >haven't seen it yet. It doesn't work...People have to express an interest to MediaTriX regarding using the board for NEXTSTEP. Otherwise, it will take time to get it to work. It does use the OPL-4 chip which is old to synths, but new to audio cards. It does GM really well and no drivers need be loaded. I gather the MT32 patch is almost ready as well. This card is really interesting, and it's priced right. It's now up to users to show an interest for its use in NS. > >In DOS/WIN (yuck) it works really well, using both wave table and FM systh. >I use it for General Midi in both DOOM for DOS and Indaycar Racing for DOS >(The real 500 race is on live as I speak), and sounds great. I fired up all >the windows programs that came with it, and they sound comparable to > the Gravis I had before this, I'm happy. >Gary -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Subject: Re: Copying ROMs on NeXTStations Message-ID: <CqL40A.J27@fafnir.com> Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA References: <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 22:04:58 GMT In article <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: > We have a couple of old machines that really need their ROMS updating, one > because we want to run ADB hardware on it, the other because for some reason > the ROMs are duff and it won't boot. > > We have "source" machines that work fine, and we have use of an EPROM blower. > Does anyone see any problems? Anyone done this? What kind of EPROMS are the > ROMs that we need to blow onto? > You can get the latest ROM's from Bell Atlantic, but that's not sufficient to convert to ADB. Are you sure it's the ROM, and not a bad disc or a bad motherboard? -- What I did must have been right, or an angel would have stopped me, just as the angel stopped Abraham in the Bible. -- Albert Fish, the cannibal Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
From: lahurst@maths.tcd.ie (Leon Hurst) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone with NS on an IBM PC? Date: 30 May 1994 12:42:37 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland. Message-ID: <2scjfd$bv9@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Hi! Has anyone got NS to run on the following or some variation of the following? IBM ValuePoint 486DX2 66 - 16Meg RAM IBM 17P monitor BusLogic VL-455 (or 544? the SCSI 2 controller) ATI Ultra Pro for VL with 2Meg VRAM DEC 1-2.5 Gig Hd. Apple 300 CDRom If so how quick is it in comparison to an 040 Color NeXTStation? Any installation problems? Could you get OS/2 to co-exist happely? Please e-mail any responses to me. Thanks, Leon. -- College: lahurst@salmon.maths.tcd.ie
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems doing backups Date: 30 May 94 11:33:24 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.770297604@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu> <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu> shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers) writes: >I have run into this problem, even when running the dump/restore as root. >I called NeXT. They said, "Oh, yes. That's a bug in dump. Use tar." >You will note that nowhere in the voluminous documentation NeXT has >thoughtfully made available for using dump/restore will you find any >mention that dump is essentially unusable for doing system backups due >to this little problem. Of course, because the bug was introduced first in 3.2, that means dump/restore worked fine in all previous releases. However, the bug is fixed and there's a patch pkg on NeXTanswers. So there's no reason left why you shouldn't use dump. I find it an excellent way of making backups. Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: chi@kaiwan.com (LCC) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Urgent: Next PC hangs during boot Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 30 May 1994 06:17:44 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2scp1o$3dv@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <2s5o60$7c5@network.ucsd.edu> Jochen Klinke (jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu) wrote: : I rebooted one of our Next PC's after changing the address of the : additional serial port (COM2) to 0x2f8 in the Configure.app. Now the : system hangs during boot while displaying the message 'Configuring Device : Drivers'. If I boot with config=Default, the computer hangs with the : message 'panic: Cpu(0) vfs_mount_root: cannot mount root' and 'Kernel : Panic Exception...waiting for remote debugger connection. Type 'c' to : continue or 'r' to reboot'. Typing 'c' at this stage only repeats the last : message, while typing 'r' reboots the machine. How do I get the system : back up? Any ideas? Hi, I am having the same kind of problem... Have you found out how to the the NS/FIP to boot up properly? Dear Netter, Last night after editing the /NextLibrary/device/serial.config/ Default.table and Instance0??, the computer failes to boot up. I have tried using config=Default to boot up but failed. The message is as follows, Checking disk /dev/rsd0a: file system clean : skipping check Faking root mount entries Configuring Device Drivers Using Default table for BusMouse PCPointer probe : mouseInit failure _IO Probe Driver : No Such Device device BusMouse Unit 0 <computer stucks here> The reason I was editing the serial device table and Instance0?? file was because I was trying to install Mux serial driver to my NS/FIP 3.2. Obviously, I am not sure what I was doing... If you know how to solve my problem / or comments... please E-mail to chi@kaiwan.com Thank you very much!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: viggo@diku.dk (Allan Kim Schougaard) Subject: Where are the freeware drivers ? Message-ID: <1994May30.130607.26194@odin.diku.dk> Sender: viggo@njord.diku.dk Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 13:06:07 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen Where can I find drivers other than those NeXT provide ? --Allan Schougaard --viggo@diku.dk
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 30 May 1994 09:07:01 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <940530150211.2218AACUG.malc@jeeves> A bit off-thread, and I guess this belongs in advocacy, but, hey... I've decided, all I want is a PC that can give as good output as my NeXT can using Ralf Suckow's MusicBuilder. Have a look at the press release in csn.announce, then if you have any interest in music at all, go fetch! It's quite simply the most delightful package I have seen in a long, long time. (If you have any problems working out how to use it, make sure you install th e"work" folder: start with ML- Producer and drag in the appropriate files from "work" into the wells at the top, then work your way down... it all makes sense after that. Don't worry if it takes a while for things to happen, it took ~ 10 minutes to process presto- 2 on my machine.) Have fun, mmalcolm. SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569 Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569 Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972 Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk 211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome) Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Copying ROMs on NeXTStations In-Reply-To: mckelvey@fafnir.com's message of Sun, 29 May 1994 22:04:58 GMT To: mckelvey@fafnir.com Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May30095526@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> <CqL40A.J27@fafnir.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 13:55:21 GMT In article <CqL40A.J27@fafnir.com> mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey) writes: In article <CqCzC0.5Dq@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain) writes: > We have a couple of old machines that really need their ROMS > updating, one because we want to run ADB hardware on it, the > other because for some reason the ROMs are duff and it won't > boot. > > We have "source" machines that work fine, and we have use of an > EPROM blower. Does anyone see any problems? Anyone done this? > What kind of EPROMS are the ROMs that we need to blow onto? You can get the latest ROM's from Bell Atlantic, but that's not sufficient to convert to ADB. Are you sure it's the ROM, and not a bad disc or a bad motherboard? Is it sufficient to enable the automatic switch on/off feature (found in Preferences.app) of later NeXTstations ? Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wagner@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Subject: AHA2842 Message-ID: <1994May30.143533.3976@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 14:35:33 GMT Hi, I'm currently running a pretty avarage system (486-33 20/1100) with a aha 1542c and MessyDOS from Betasoft... but I'd like to convert.. guess.. YES, to NS/I. But what I need is a VLB HDcontroller... Now, there is the Buslogic, and there is the 2842 from Adaptec. Personally, I'd prefer the 2842, 'coz I already got an adaptec device and I'm quite satisfied with it. And the 2842 has a nice RISC coprocessor on board which could speed up thing significantly. But... the old problem with NS... drivers.. Does anybody know of, or has heard about or even has a driver for the 2842? Please help me.. Also, are there any announcements for Drivers for the (also) new ATI pro turbo? nice card... So, who can help me? And remember, I do have to continue to use DOS.... so no freaky combinations which don't work with it... thanks Simon -- /> /< Simon Wagner wagner@avalon.unizh.ch [\\\\\\(O):::<======================================- \< Tannweidstr. 9 CH-8133 Esslingen \>
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64bit S3 chip Date: 30 May 1994 16:20:02 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <2sd3nj$5es@network.ucsd.edu> References: <2s8kvq$r4s@drdhh.hanse.de> In article <2s8kvq$r4s@drdhh.hanse.de> alf@drdhh.hanse.de (Ulf Zimmermann) writes: > Miro has the new card 20S and 40S, they both use the S3 64 bit chip and > they have also a driver for nextstep. I called miro about the 40SV the other day and they told me the card won't be available in the US for at _least_ another 60 days. later, jk
From: jklinke@aeon.ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64bit S3 chip Date: 30 May 1994 16:20:24 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <2sd3o8$5f1@network.ucsd.edu> References: <2s8kvq$r4s@drdhh.hanse.de> In article <2s8kvq$r4s@drdhh.hanse.de> alf@drdhh.hanse.de (Ulf Zimmermann) writes: > Miro has the new card 20S and 40S, they both use the S3 64 bit chip and > they have also a driver for nextstep. I called miro about the 40SV the other day and they told me the card won't be available in the US for at _least_ another 60 days. later, jk
From: g02o@zfn.uni-bremen.de (Mark-Oliver Wolter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: dead HD on DPT2122 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next,comp.periphs.scsi Date: 30 May 1994 16:32:26 GMT Organization: Zentrum fuer Netze, Universitaet Bremen Message-ID: <2sd4eq$iid@ina.zfn.uni-bremen.de> References: <1994May27.165651.510@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> Gernot A. Pohl (mania.wy.in-berlin.de!grisu) wrote: :> Ooops, I ve got a (soft) dead SCSI HD (IBM 0662-S12) within our :> NeXT-PC. :> Last action was a fsck, interrupted by RESET! :> Even the controler BIOS at startup says: "SCSI-ID4 not responding"! :> What to do??? Get an ATARI and format it with HDINIT or SCSI-TOOLS... die machen ALLES platt ;-)) -- MfG MOW []-) Hardware-Gruppenleiter des A.C.T.e.V Bremen | | | Atari Computer Team e.V. Bremen 400/800/XL/XE/ST(E)/TT/Falcon/Lynx | | | Vereinsr"aume: Steffensweg 5, 28217 Bremen, B.R.D. NEW: PC group | | | Mailbox (BBS): ++49-(0)421-38 50 41 ZyXel 19200, free account. / | \ Wir haben clubeigene Rechner in den Clubr"aumen stehen. / | \ "Offnungszeiten: Mo19-21/Mi19-22(MIDI)/Do18-21/Fr18-20 (open end:) *** Always LOGON - the bright side of life ! ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: Talus SCSI driver with other motherboards than DEC or DELL? Message-ID: <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Mon, 30 May 94 16:22:27 GMT Are there any other Pentium/PCI motherboards besides Dell Omniplex and DEC XL with onboard NCR 53C810 SCSI chip that the Talus SCSI driver supports? Any experiences? Thanks & greetings, Andreas ------------------------------------------------------ Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de Kiel University Phone: (49) 431 597 1757 Clinic for Pediatric Cardiology FAX: (49) 431 597 1828 Schwanenweg 20, 24105 Kiel 1, Germany *** NeXT Mail welcome *** -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: panic doing gnutar with DAT on black Message-ID: <CqM8DF.E44@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <ohuBPfG00iV4A1Lf1b@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 12:36:51 GMT Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-May-94 Re: panic doing : gnutar with.. by Waihon A Kwong@magnus.ac : > >I would recommend doing filesystem-level backups (a) without the NFS : > >mounts present, (b) using dump / rdump, not gnutar, and (c) on unmounted : > >filesystems [if possible], not ones being actively used. : > : > I thought the dump/rdump can not use to do backup on the system files with : > SUID since those files are will not be restored correctly. : > I once was backing up my complete root file system with : > "dump", but after I restore the system, it is not usable since all the SUID : > files got mix up..... There is a 'restore' patch available from NeXTAnswers. I never installed it, but as I recall, it fixed the file permissions (SUID) problems... : Oh, I suppose I should mention that there is a pretty highly regarded : backup product available called SafetyNet. I don't use it myself, but : perhaps some other people will comment on it. : -Chuck SafetyNet is absolutely the coolest NeXT utility app around. It is by far the most powerful tape backup system on any platform I have ever used... You choose the files/hierarchies to backup with the mouse, in a Workspace-style file viewer. You can backup local and network (NFS) filesystems, actively in use or not. All are visible in the browser at the same time. Then hit the 'Backup...' menu option, and insert a tape. Once the backup is complete, you can browse the contents of the tape using a file viewer. You can select files/hierarchies to restore. Extracting individual files from the tape takes only seconds. You can add more files to a tape after a first backup is done, if the backup did not use up the whole tape. You have many options when doing all of these actions... This app is so simple-yet-powerful that end-users can use tape as a portable media, almost as simply as a floppy disk (albeit a Gigabyte- capacity diskette ;). --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: bobs@pth3.bu.edu (Robert Singleton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SIMMS for color NeXT Date: 30 May 1994 17:31:02 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <2sd7sm$abc@news.bu.edu> Hello, I'm looking to upgrade the RAM for a color NeXT station. What type of SIMMS will I need? I want two 4Meg SIMMS, and I believe they should be 72 pin - this correct? What speed should I get? And what is a reasonable price? Thanks for any info. regards, bob singleton
From: kiwi@next2032.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus SCSI driver with other motherboards than DEC or DELL? Date: 30 May 1994 18:31:19 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sdbdn$ao6@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) writes: > Are there any other Pentium/PCI motherboards besides Dell Omniplex and DEC XL > with onboard NCR 53C810 SCSI chip that the Talus SCSI driver supports? > > Any experiences? > I would also like to see more comparative benchmarks and information about compatibility. Anyone here who would wish to tell how his/her system performs? -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT MAIL) )o o( nicht weisst kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT Mail) \ | / was Du tust, FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mach's mit Eleganz!"
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet. Date: 30 May 1994 16:28:39 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2sdi9n$fer@digifix.digifix.com> This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. This service is online now, and can be reached at http://digifix.digifix.com/ it can be reached using OmniWeb (available from ftp.omnigroup.com) or Mosaic. The entries are coming in quite quickly, and currently consist of - NeXT Press Releases - OpenStep WhitePapers - Third Party Products Directory - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - NEXTSTEP User Group Directory - comp.sys.next.announce archives (searchable) - searchable contents of Third Party compilation CDs Additionally the NEXTSTEP Product Information Mail Server will be stocked full file files in the next week... you can get information on using the mail server at ns-products@digifix.com Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups -------------------------- Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Problems doing backups Message-ID: <1994May30.071319.1315@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 07:13:19 GMT In article <SHIVERS.94May29144304@lewis.lcs.mit.edu> shivers@lcs.mit.edu (Olin Shivers) writes: [dump, tar, and rdump to a Sun don't work, and gnutar isn't documented] > > I wandered around in backup space for about two weeks a couple of months > ago, when we first set up our NeXT systems. I was not impressed. Every > single one of the solutions that comes with NeXT has big problems. Doing > backups is a basic, important thing. Why is it so difficult? > -Olin These problems have been well reported here, at least. Backing up is important: all of my main customers here use SafetyNet, which is really easy to use, and is incredibly cheap for network backups. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: rfoote@pcm5134.sph.umich.edu (Richard J. Foote) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommendations on HP 1533 DAT Drive Date: 30 May 1994 21:13:33 GMT Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts Message-ID: <2sdktt$j8j@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu> Does anyone have experience with the HP 1533 Drive with NEXTSTEP? We're looking to get one, but I wanted to check and see if anybody is using it/has tried it with NS/3.2. Just trying to avoid the dreaded RMA... Richard Foote (rfoote@umich.edu)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 29 May 1994 21:02:01 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2sasbp$jo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2s25kc$h31@usenet.rpi.edu> <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > >The PC sound standard is the Sound Blaster. There are a zillion variations >on the theme,... I'm astonished about the 'standard is ...' argument. NeXTSTEP is so far away from the 'standard' PC operating system as a SB board is away from a really sophisticated sound output device, like the DSP provides for black hardware. I think Intel hardware/drivers should be able to compete with black hardware and not stick to any so-called PC standard. (ISA is one, too :-) Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Ryan J. Kucera) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: scsi error Date: 31 May 1994 01:10:59 GMT Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2se2r3$osu@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I'm getting fifo error. what am I doing wrong? This is hooked up to a 040 NeXT. the hard drive is a seagate st1581n. Thanks, Ryan Kucera kucerarj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqnGst.KD0@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> <1994May30.053120.17180@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 04:36:29 GMT In article <1994May30.053120.17180@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> leigh@thylacine.cs.uwa.edu.au writes: [ ] >> [ ] >> >> Clearly, I am biased towards #2, but I can see the case for #1. I see no >> case for the MultiSound (too expensive), PCI sound cards ( this is truly >> a poor use of a PCI bus- same for VL), MediaVision cards- we all know what >> they do, etc...There are very nice cards from Roland, but again you are >> talking a lot of money. > >Well, let me propose a case for the Multisound. Compatibility with existing DSP >based applications running on black hardware. At present, NS/FIP people are in >a very poor position regarding sound and especially _music_, with the lack of a >standard 56K DSP card preventing the musickit from running and therefore most >of the NeXT music software, and lack of a MIDI interface driver for NS/FIP - at >least there is a standard card - the Roland MPU-401, but alas, no driver! >The turtle beach Multisound at least provides DSP (but no SP/DIF digital I/O). Well you have a point. My thoughts were aimed towards a fairly rapid solution ofthe unpleasant sound situation on the NeXT PC's. Is Turtle Beach the only one to use the 56k or equivalent DSP? There are now a lot of audio cards for the PC and many use DSP's. Perhaps it might be easier to adapt the MusicKit or whatever to another DSP. I don't know, but I would certainly want music reaseach to continue under NEXTSTEP. I really feel that people need inexpensive solutions to these types of problems,if at all possible. Turtle Beach is not noted for inexpensive anything, and their product line does seem to be in flux. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqnGzs.KIJ@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> <2sasbp$jo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 04:40:40 GMT In article <2sasbp$jo@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: >phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >> >>The PC sound standard is the Sound Blaster. There are a zillion variations >>on the theme,... > >I'm astonished about the 'standard is ...' argument. NeXTSTEP is so far away >from the 'standard' PC operating system as a SB board is away from a really >sophisticated sound output device, like the DSP provides for black hardware. Astonished by what? Did you read what I wrote? I said that a SB driver was bound to emerge anyway since it's the PC standard. Therefore it doesn't make sense for Talus to duplicate work that is already being done. I agree that we need good sound. Both cards I mentioned were inexpensive and provide that. >I think Intel hardware/drivers should be able to compete with black hardware >and not stick to any so-called PC standard. (ISA is one, too :-) What's wrong with ISA? Would you rather pay $200 or $2 for a serial board? -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: chesnutt@mv.us.adobe.com (Stan Chesnutt) Subject: Re: Should a BLACK color monitor be turned off? Message-ID: <1994May31.054406.21441@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Tuesday Weld Fan Club References: <2s289m$et0@news.tamu.edu> Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 05:44:06 GMT In article <2s289m$et0@news.tamu.edu> lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu writes: >As you may know, the black hardware color monitor has a separate power button. >Does this imply it should be turned off when not in use, or may I leave it on? >The basic problem is the power button is getting a little flakey so I hate to >turn it on and off for fear it will go at the worst possible time. > >-- >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Louis Everett >lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu >NeXT mail welcome Sure, turn off your monitor when you aren't using it. You probably do the same with your television, if you have one. If the power switch is getting flakey (as mine is), use the plug ... Disclaimer: I've had my NeXTStation Color for 3 (?) years now, and it is daily flipped on and off. Some of the monochrome stations at work are getting dim tubes ... I guess because the tube is burning constantly (no way to turn it off). Stan -- Have you bought the new Joe Camel home video for your kids yet? Joe teaches young-uns how to be little adults in this fun-filled, colorful, entertaining tape.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kent@infoserv.com Subject: Re: i860, NeXT Dimension Message-ID: <CqKIEs.4n7@infoserv.com> Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard) Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting References: <2s2q92$e9g@spectre.star.harc.edu> Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 14:18:27 GMT In article <2s2q92$e9g@spectre.star.harc.edu> byrd@nachste.star.harc.edu (Marc J. Byrd) writes: %I think I saw in passing once that the NeXT Dimension contains an Intel %i860 DSP chip. Is this correct? If so, does it (or can it) serve in the %same capacity as the Motorolla DSP chip on a Cube? That is, are there %programming tools and access to the i860? It has an i860. You can't use it as a DSP and I don't know of any way to access the chip. Kent -- /* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */ /* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Talus SCSI driver with other motherboards (YES) Message-ID: <1994May30.205630.4928@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 20:56:30 GMT In article <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) writes: > Are there any other Pentium/PCI motherboards besides Dell Omniplex and DEC XL > with onboard NCR 53C810 SCSI chip that the Talus SCSI driver supports? > > Any experiences? > > Thanks & greetings, > > Andreas To everyone in the NeXT community: We're working extremely hard to compile a list of motherboards and add-on cards that we will publish as "Talus Certified". This is a big job and we've been working on it for some time now. We will continue to make additional announcements, hopefully each week, regarding new drivers and newly supported hardware. Please be patient. We will NOT announce that it's compatible unless we've tested it as thoroughly as possible. Unlike "you-know-who". We are totally unsupported by NeXT in our driver development efforts....quite the opposite. This slows our efforts greatly. NeXT will not tell us which driver THEY intend to do, so we may be spinning our wheels and reinventing the wheel on some drivers. This is a totally insane situation and it's keeping us providing you with the newly updated drivers you're requesting. We have constantly pleaded with NeXT for cooperation to make sure that our efforts are not being duplicated. They have not only shown us no cooperation, but they have purposely hampered our driver development efforts. I wish I could tell you the whole story, but it would make the Stross book look tame by comparison. (A book I may, in fact, write) I can tell you that the DELL gave us 100% cooperation in developing the drivers for the Omniplex series. Thanks to that cooperation, we have had not one bug report that I know of with that machine. A German computer magazine, c't, will publish an rave review on the Omniplex, running NS and Talus drivers, in an upcoming issue. Their test results will show, I'm told (I haven't seen it), that the Omniplex out-performed an HP 712/60! Why do I bring this up? Because you should know that all it takes to get the equipment running properly under NS is a little cooperation. You should also know that NeXT refused to certify this same machine as "NeXT Certified" for DELL, after having it for months...simply because it was running Talus drivers. You can imagine exactly how happy DELL was about that! This is not an endorsement of DELL, other than to recognize their cooperation and the fruit that working together can bear. We do not sell ANYONES hardware and we would like to have a good working relationship with ALL hardware vendors.,,and we do have with many...no thanks to NeXT. This IS an indictment of NeXT for their failure to cooperate with the one and only company out here in the real world that's making sure that their hardware is compatible on the widest range of new hardware possible. If you'd like to know why they are doing their best to stop us, I suggest you drop a line to the following wonderful gentlemen at NeXT who are responsible for this (and cc: me): Paul_Vais@next.com and Bob_Lawton@next.com Better yet, I wish they'd respond to me right here in public...like the rest of us mere mortals. I'm just as curious as everyone else must be as to why NeXT would NOT want drivers written, especially when it costs them NOTHING! Pissed off and not taking it lying down anymore..... Steve Sarich III President Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation steve@talus.com 713-561-0700 "No disclaimers, no apologies...no bullshit"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Driver for UltraStore SCSI Adapter? Message-ID: <1994May30.235340.5707@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <tsikesCqIqrD.666@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 23:53:40 GMT In article <tsikesCqIqrD.666@netcom.com> tsikes@netcom.com (Terry Sikes) writes: > In article <2rvn30$m14@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>, > Ralph Michael Keller <rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch> wrote: > Hi everybody! > > I am looking for a NSFIP-Driver for the Ultra Store F34 VL SCSI-Adapter. > Does such a driver exists? Are there any other compatible drivers? > > Thanks for helping... > - Ralph (rakeller@iiic.ethz.ch) > >> I'd like to know about this also! (Talus???) >> -- >> Terry Sikes == tsikes@netcom.com | All I want is a baseline 1/1/1 machine: Sorry, no plans for this one at the moment. Why do you prefer this over the NCR or the Adaptec, for instance? Is this just an VLB vs. PCI issue, or does this board do something special? Please let me know if you've got a compelling reason why you'd like this card supported. Thanks... Steve Sarich III Talus.... steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Looking for DayDream Message-ID: <Cqo688.CMq@ucdavis.edu> Summary: Looking for phone/address for producer of DayDream Boxes Keywords: Daydream address/phone Sender: David Bradford Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 13:45:44 GMT Looking for the distributor of the DayDream Box. Any info appreciated. Thanks, David
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM 0664 M1H on NeXTstation ? Date: 31 May 1994 14:10:57 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2sfghh$qup@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> We're trying go get an IBM 0664 M1H 2GB hard disk running with a NeXTstation. sdform works, but initializing the disk causes 'Incomplete file transfer error's. It's possible to read with 'dd' or 'disk'. Since for the 0662, it was necessary to toggle the ASDPE bit in sense page 0, I had a look at the position, where the ASDPE bit was for the 0662 (byte 3, bit 7), but byte 3 is already 0x80. Any hints what I am missing ? BTW, although the auto-start pin is set, the NeXT reports 'Waiting for drive to come ready' on power-up... Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqnKJr.KK0@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <CEDMAN.94May26102544@capitalist.princeton.edu> <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 05:57:26 GMT In article <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >In article <next2.769980914@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) writes: > >[ ] > >>The bandwidth is not the problem. But if you have an ISA machine with >>two busmastering cards, e.g. 1542 and PAS16, you're in trouble. [munch] > >In short, pick a card that is inexpenisve, has Wavetable built in, and isn't >made by Creative Labs. > >>Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking >>mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT > > >-- >Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) >philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu >[Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...] I am surprised that things like open hardware architecture (to facilitate writing sophisticated drivers) and presence of a high performance DSP chip don't seem to be issues in this discussion. If all you want to do is simple, maybe extra computation is not an issue, but I really miss the full-blown DSP56001 that was available on the black hardware. Anyone care to comment. david ---------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Floppy controller causes panic with EISA/VL/ISA board, NS/I Date: 31 May 1994 14:52:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2sfiv8$b6n@news.service.uci.edu> I just changed my VL/ISA motherboard to a hunt(?) EISA/VL/ISA motherboard AMI Bios in order to have my adaptec 1542B and PAS 16 coexist. They do now. But there are three problems: (1) Whenever I reboot the machine, it always says EISA CMOS checksum failure but it boots OK in DOS and NS(sort of for NS, see below) (2) When boot in NS, it complains Floppy Controller IO: Stray Interrupt Then it does boot the system and everything works fine, except whenever I put in a floppy and run check disks, the system panics: saying invalid DMA byte. The DMA channel is 2, and I don't have any conflicts (3) I have my PAS 16 studio driver set to use DMA 7, IRQ 10. It works fine with playing sound, but it does not record with the lip-service in NeXTMail Thank you. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: cmart@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (Chris Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test Date: 31 May 1994 10:15:33 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199405311515.KAA24948@news.cs.utexas.edu> test Chris Martin cmart@uva386.schools.virginia.edu martin@onyx.pvcc.cc.va.us NeXTMail Ok! "Never Hesitate to Obfuscate"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Talus SCSI driver with other motherboards (YES) In-Reply-To: talus.com!steve's message of Mon, 30 May 1994 20:56:30 GMT To: steve@talus.com Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94May31095746@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> <1994May30.205630.4928@talus.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 13:57:45 GMT In article <1994May30.205630.4928@talus.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: I can tell you that the DELL gave us 100% cooperation in developing the drivers for the Omniplex series. Thanks to that cooperation, we have had not one bug report that I know of with that machine. A German computer magazine, c't, will publish an rave review on the Omniplex, running NS and Talus drivers, in an upcoming issue. Their test results will show, I'm told (I haven't seen it), that the Omniplex out-performed an HP 712/60! That's not so surprising. According to the SpecInt and SpecFP numbers you'd expect an Omniplex 560 to outperform an HP 712/60 on integer performance. I have not seen a reliable source for the Spec numbers of the Omniplex 590, but in third-party testing the 560 had the same Spec numbers as the optimized 60 MHz Pentium system Intel uses to get to its published Spec numbers. If the same holds for the 590 (and I don't know any reason to expect otherwise) the 590 will outperform not only the 712/60 on both integer and floating point operations but also the 712/80 on integer operations. If you want to get a faster NeXTstep machine, you'll have to buy not a Gecko but one of the big snakes from HP and that will cost you four to ten times as much as a loaded 590. Carl Edman
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 31 May 1994 15:22:43 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2sfko3$kft@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CqnKJr.KK0@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> In article <CqnKJr.KK0@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: > If all you want to do is > simple, maybe extra computation is not an issue, but I really miss the > full-blown DSP56001 that was available on the black hardware. > > Anyone care to comment. I found, much to my dismay, that C on the PC (we have a 66 MHz Pentium) was about 3 to 4 times faster in nearly all cases than the 56000. I made a port of CLM (a music synthesis program that runs on the 56000) to the Ariel PC56d card and the Ilink i56 card, but both were easily out-performed when I ran everything on the Pentium. So, from my point of view, all I want is a good DAC and maybe an ADC or a way to read CD's directly.
From: geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Michael Moellney ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Talus SCSI driver with other motherboards (YES) Date: 31 May 1994 16:19:51 GMT Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <2sfo37$t93@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> <1994May30.205630.4928@talus.com> HI! I wonder how miro (they produce graphic cards) managed to be mentioned in the Hardware Comp. Guide. They provide their own drivers !! So maybe Steve could ask them how to coorperate with NeXT?-> ps: There is a maillist: nsi-homebrew To subscribe mail: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu Contents: sub nsi-homebrew
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: dead HD on DPT2122 Date: 31 May 1994 09:06:12 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2ser5k$2ma@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <1994May27.165651.510@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> <2sd4eq$iid@ina.zfn.uni-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit g02o@zfn.uni-bremen.de (Mark-Oliver Wolter) writes: >Gernot A. Pohl (mania.wy.in-berlin.de!grisu) wrote: >:> Ooops, I ve got a (soft) dead SCSI HD (IBM 0662-S12) within our >:> NeXT-PC. >:> Last action was a fsck, interrupted by RESET! >:> Even the controler BIOS at startup says: "SCSI-ID4 not responding"! >:> What to do??? >Get an ATARI and format it with HDINIT or SCSI-TOOLS... die machen ALLES platt >;-)) You don't need an Atari for a low level format task, you can do this with the DOS software on the DPT driver disk. You don't even need to run a DOS partition for it, just a bootable DOS floppy disk will do. Then you'll see what it is: either low level formatting succeeds, or your disk is physically damaged. Markus. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: i860, NeXT Dimension Date: 31 May 1994 17:55:16 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sftm4$1kd@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <2s2q92$e9g@spectre.star.harc.edu> <2s2vgp$8v4@rosie.next.com> The i860 is not a DSP chip. In the NeXT Dimension, it merely acts as a (useless, mostly) coprocessor that copies polygons thru the NeXTBus. It is based on high performance architecture, RISC based. The system software, unfortunately does not push the i860 to its fullest potential, such as running Display PostScript (tm) - and hence 32-bits-per-pixel color on the 17" and 21" screens are so slow. Cheers, R. Huque
From: helge@haddock.chalmers.se (Markus H|rnkvist) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for miro 16Si Date: 31 May 1994 18:59:45 GMT Organization: Chalmers Distribution: world Message-ID: <HELGE.94May31205946@haddock.chalmers.se> I recently bought a miro 16Si from Alpine, and I was told that it came with a driver for NS. I did not receive the driver. Does anyone out there have the driver, and could you mail it to me? (No NeXTmail) I am currently running in the VGA mode... and getting desperate. :) Thanks! /Markus
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Talus SCSI driver with other motherboards (YES) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 31 May 1994 12:45:29 -0600 Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center Message-ID: <2sg0k9$3td@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <1994May30.162227.12005@aplki.toppoint.de> <1994May30.205630.4928@talus.com> <2sfo37$t93@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> I believe Pencom wrote their driver. NeXT looooooves Pencom. ...........................kris Michael Moellney (geom2@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de) wrote: : HI! : I wonder how miro (they produce graphic cards) managed to be mentioned in the : Hardware Comp. Guide. They provide their own drivers !! : So maybe Steve could ask them how to coorperate with NeXT?-> : ps: There is a maillist: nsi-homebrew : To subscribe mail: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu : Contents: sub nsi-homebrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Brian Bias <brian@whetstone.com> Subject: Re: Should a BLACK color monitor be turned off? Message-ID: <CqoFxy.Bus@rainman.uucp> Sender: brian@rainman.uucp (Brian R Bias) Organization: Whetstone, Inc. References: <1994May31.054406.21441@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 17:15:34 GMT In article <1994May31.054406.21441@adobe.com> chesnutt@mv.us.adobe.com (Stan Chesnutt) writes: > In article <2s289m$et0@news.tamu.edu> lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu writes: > >As you may know, the black hardware color monitor has a separate power button. > >Does this imply it should be turned off when not in use, or may I leave it on? > >The basic problem is the power button is getting a little flakey so I hate to > >turn it on and off for fear it will go at the worst possible time. > > > >-- > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ > >Louis Everett > >lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu > >NeXT mail welcome > > Sure, turn off your monitor when you aren't using it. You probably do the > same with your television, if you have one. > > If the power switch is getting flakey (as mine is), use the plug ... > > Disclaimer: I've had my NeXTStation Color for 3 (?) years now, and it is daily > flipped on and off. Some of the monochrome stations at work are getting dim > tubes ... I guess because the tube is burning constantly (no way to turn it > off). > > Stan My NeXT Color (Fimi) monitor has been off only a few hours in 3 years. The only problems I've had have been when the power was removed and re-applied. Then, sometimes, you'd have to cycle the power a few times to get the picture to appear. I've heard of others with this cycling problem too. My monitor is just now starting to show focus problems - but, heck, it's done its job pretty well. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Brian Bias Whetstone, Inc. phone: 606.273.1752 e-mail: brian@whetstone.com (NeXTmail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: helge@haddock.whitman.edu (Markus H|rnkvist) Subject: Talus/NCR/ASUS - Up and running Message-ID: <HELGE.94May31201151@haddock.whitman.edu> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Whitman College Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 18:11:50 GMT We finally managed to get NS running on an ASUS Pentium motherboard with the NCR53c810 chip on a PCI board. The real problem wasn't the Talus driver being incompatible with the ASUS board, the problem was that it was incompatible with the external NeXT CD-ROM drive. So when we tried a third CD-ROM drive, a NEC 3xi, everything worked fine. Now, if I could only find a driver for my Miro 16si... /Markus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Doug Moore Subject: [ND] Is there a i860 "DX2"? Message-ID: <CqoqAo.HB7@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 20:57:40 GMT Wishful thinking I know, but does anybody out there know if there is such a beast? If so, does anybody have an educated opinion as to what effect this would have on video performance on the ND? -- Douglas Moore St Paul, MN 612-227-3274 dmoore@epx.cis.umn.edu <---NeXTMail ready
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: step@il.us.swissbank.com (Mike Stepniczka) Subject: STB Pegasus driver? Message-ID: <1994May31.225525.28818@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:55:25 GMT Has anyone seen a driver for the STB Pegasus card yet? It was supposed to be out quite some time ago, and the schedule seems to keep slipping. This wouldn't be so annoying, but I bought the card in the belief that there would be a driver to let me use it at 1280x1024x16-bit and 1024x768x24-bit. If anyone has heard anything, please let me know. Thanks, Mike Stepniczka
From: cpribe@park.bu.edu (Chris Pribe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Post install SCSII CD-ROM problems on DECXL w/ Talus drvr Date: 1 Jun 1994 02:09:59 GMT Organization: Boston University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sgqln$lgl@news.bu.edu> References: <Cq0A66.8y8@ennews.eas.asu.edu> <2rjtvj$k9m@usenet.rpi.edu> <2rlemm$1og@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Keywords: SCSII CD-ROM DECXL Talus Hi, I'm trying to get NSfI 3.2 running on a DECXL 486/66 using the Talus SCSII driver. I am able to load the system -- but once I'm actually logged in, I have trouble reading the CD-ROM. I've changed the jumpers on the back of the CD-ROM so that it is not device 0 or 1 (according to the chart in the CD-ROM documentation). However on boot up, the messages still call the CD-ROM 'sd1'. If a CD is in the CD-ROM on boot up, sometimes it is accessible. But any change of CD is not seen. Further, when I run the CDplayer.app, the system always winds up with an uninterruptable 'spinning disk'. Any thoughts on how I might fix this would be much appreciated!! Thanks, Chris Pribe, PhD cpribe@cns.bu.edu ps. I'm new to NeXTStep so if this is something really stupid, I apologize in advance. Disclaimer: My opinions are, thankfully, my own.
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: optiplex serial port HELP Date: 1 Jun 1994 02:49:52 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <2sgt0g$qqg@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Well I just had a client trade in his Dell Dimension P60 for an optiplex (on the certified list) so the serial port would support a modem . And guess what? It (the Dell Optiplex 466/LV) doesn't see the modem.Oh boy. So anybody got any clues on Dell serial ports? Any sucuess with the above configuration.? Man oh man, what am I gonna tell them? Oh, I just moved the hard drive,not reinstalled so I'll try that next but I am really worried. ny help or clues or experiences appreciated. advTHANKSance jack jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: move hard drive to new w/o reinstall? Date: 1 Jun 1994 02:54:32 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Alumni Association Message-ID: <2sgt98$r03@gap.cco.caltech.edu> canI move a hard drive from a Dimension XPS P60 pentium machine to a Optiplex 466/LV 486 without reinstalling nextstep? It seems to work except for the serial ports. advTHANKSance jack jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Floppy controller causes panic with EISA/VL/ISA board, NS/I Date: 31 May 1994 22:06:25 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <2sh50h$r81@crl.crl.com> References: <2sfiv8$b6n@news.service.uci.edu> CMOS check-sum error: Your cmos needs to be reset. While booting up (during memory check) choose to reconfigure cmos setup. 1. note down both standard and advanced cmos settings 2. in setup choose "load hardware defaults" and save to cmos. 3. reboot -- error message should have gone away -- to dos 4. run eisa configuration - "ecu" or whatever and save your configuration 5. reboot and choose cmos setup. 6. in setup "load bios defaults" and change all to what ever it was (step 1) and save 6. reboot to NeXTSTEP Hope this helps. Best Regards. --Chip (cnayak@crl.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bnh@active (Brian Hess) Subject: Re: Using a NeXT CDROM on a Macintosh Message-ID: <1994May31.222146.3868@nntpxfer.psi.com> Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com Organization: Performance Systems Int'l References: <1994May27.142521.594@parsec.mixcom.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:21:46 GMT Alberto Ricart (alberto@parsec.mixcom.com) wrote: : I am trying to connect a NeXT CDROM to a Mac 660AV. : ... ... ... : SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 version 2.6a Stock answer: The CDU-541 is not the same as the Apple unit because the Apple one has some custom code in the ROMs for the drive. (It's still cheaper to get FWB's CD-ROM Toolkit for the Macintosh than to buy a used leftover Apple drive, but maybe not for long!) I got FWB's drivers and had no problems, though I have only tried Mac CD-ROMs and playing audio CD's; have not tested all the ISO9660 and foreign file system stuff. Brian Hess Active Ingredients, Inc. bnh@active.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ia91meye@mr4661.htl-bw.ch (Roger Meyer) Subject: Re: SIMMS for Color NeXT [from comp.sys.next.marketplace] Message-ID: <1994Jun1.102937.16716@htl-bw.ch> Sender: news@htl-bw.ch (USENET News System) Organization: HTL Brugg-Windisch, Switzerland References: <2sdas6$8sr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:29:37 GMT In article <2sdas6$8sr@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) writes: > In article <2sd7q5$a69@news.bu.edu> bobs@pth3.bu.edu (Robert Singleton) > writes: > > > I'm looking to upgrade the RAM for a color NeXT station. > > What type of SIMMS will I need? I want two 4Meg SIMMS, > > and I believe they should be 72 pin - this correct? What > > speed should I get? And what is a reasonable price? Thanks > > Assuming your 25 MHz colorstation has the old, non turbo motherboard: > > 72 pin 1 or 4 Meg SIMMs > >= 100ns > > If your 25 MHz colorstation is new enough to have the turbo motherboard: > > 72 pin 1, 4, 8, 16 Meg SIMMs > 100ns to 70 ns > > I bought four 4 MB 70 ns 72 pin SIMMs used for $450 a month and a half > ago. If you don't shop around as much as I did, you might pay $125 per 4 > MB SIMM. > > -- Todd Takken > takken@leland.stanford.edu Does anybody know when it's possible to use 8 or 16 Meg SIMMs? I mean, e.g. the Board Revision or ROM-Monitor Version or... Thanks in advance. Roger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Subject: Cable for Connecting Next Color Monitor to PC Message-ID: <CqotAr.2E7@mrk.com> Keywords: monitor Megapixel VGA Sender: jerald@mrk.com (Jerald Dawson) Organization: Investor's Advantage Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 22:04:03 GMT Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I can get a cable to connect a 21" megapixel display up to a 15 pin vga card. I'm going to try to get my 21" display to work on my PC and don't want to have to build a cable if someone else has already done it. Also, a cable to hook a PC monitor up to a Nextstation would be helpful to as I'm going to be putting my 17 inch PC display on my NeXTSTATION. The PC monitor has 5 BNC connectors on the back. Any info would be greatly appreciated as would any insights on what needs to be done to marry the 2 together. Thanx in advance -- jerald dawson * Systems Manager/Head Programmer * Investor's Advantage NeXTmail - jerald@mrk.com | phone - (708) 487-3221 | Don't blame me. I voted for Bush.
From: cmart@pen.k12.va.us (Chris Martin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!!! NeXT Laser Printer wont power up... Date: 1 Jun 1994 08:21:47 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <199406011321.IAA01480@news.cs.utexas.edu> Hey, I have a NeXT Laser printer attached to my slab (mono). Recently I unplugged everthing before a thunder storm. The next day I hooked everything back up and now the printer wont power up (everything is hooked up correctly). What can I do? Is there any way to power up the printer sans the slab so I could tell if it is a power problem? Is there anywhere I could get it fixed? Thanks in advance. Later. -Chris Chris Martin cmart@pen.k12.va.us <-- New address cmart@uva386.schools.virginia.edu <--Old address martin@onyx.pvcc.cc.va.us <-- NeXTMail address "Never Hesitate to Obfuscate"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqpCnL.B8s@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <CqHFHM.CI9@utstat.toronto.edu> <1994May30.053120.17180@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> <CqnGst.KD0@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 05:02:08 GMT In article <CqnGst.KD0@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: >In article <1994May30.053120.17180@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> leigh@thylacine.cs.uwa.edu.au writes: > >[ ] > >>> [ ] >>> >>> Clearly, I am biased towards #2, but I can see the case for #1. I see no >>> case for the MultiSound (too expensive), PCI sound cards ( this is truly >>> a poor use of a PCI bus- same for VL), MediaVision cards- we all know what >>> they do, etc...There are very nice cards from Roland, but again you are >>> talking a lot of money. >> >>Well, let me propose a case for the Multisound. Compatibility with existing DSP >>based applications running on black hardware. At present, NS/FIP people are in >>a very poor position regarding sound and especially _music_, with the lack of a >>standard 56K DSP card preventing the musickit from running and therefore most >>of the NeXT music software, and lack of a MIDI interface driver for NS/FIP - at >>least there is a standard card - the Roland MPU-401, but alas, no driver! >>The turtle beach Multisound at least provides DSP (but no SP/DIF digital I/O). > >Well you have a point. My thoughts were aimed towards a fairly rapid solution ofthe unpleasant sound situation on the NeXT PC's. > >Is Turtle Beach the only one to use the 56k or equivalent DSP? There are now a >lot of audio cards for the PC and many use DSP's. Perhaps it might be easier >to adapt the MusicKit or whatever to another DSP. I don't know, but I would >certainly want music reaseach to continue under NEXTSTEP. > >I really feel that people need inexpensive solutions to these types of problems,if at all possible. Turtle Beach is not noted for inexpensive anything, and >their product line does seem to be in flux. Have you actually asked Turtle Beach what they will charge you for shipping a Tahiti board to you, complete with a 56001 being run at 40MHz. The answer will contradict your statement that they are expensive. They offer the best value for money right now, and support developers! david ---------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <CqnKJr.KK0@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <2sfko3$kft@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 05:30:08 GMT In article <2sfko3$kft@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.stanford.edu writes: >In article <CqnKJr.KK0@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David >Hill) writes: >> If all you want to do is >> simple, maybe extra computation is not an issue, but I really miss the >> full-blown DSP56001 that was available on the black hardware. >> >> Anyone care to comment. > > >I found, much to my dismay, that C on the PC (we have a 66 MHz Pentium) >was about 3 to 4 times faster in nearly all cases than the 56000. I made >a port of CLM (a music synthesis program that runs on the 56000) to >the Ariel PC56d card and the Ilink i56 card, but both were easily >out-performed when I ran everything on the Pentium. So, from my >point of view, all I want is a good DAC and maybe an ADC or a way >to read CD's directly. It is not surprising that your C code runs faster on a Pentium than on the 56000 since it is essentially not possible to optimise a C compiler for arbitrary signal processing on a specialised DSP chip like the 56000. You don't even say which C compiler you were using, so I suspect you are unaware of this particular trap. To get the advantage of a 56000, which is specialised for signal processing operations, and has some strange quirks as a result, you need 56000 assembler programming experience, and then the time to code the algorithm in 56000 assembler. Messy, but worth it. david ----------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus/NCR/ASUS - Up and running Date: 1 Jun 1994 14:15:34 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2si567$dc0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <HELGE.94May31201151@haddock.whitman.edu> Markus H|rnkvist (helge@haddock.whitman.edu) wrote: : We finally managed to get NS running on an ASUS Pentium motherboard : with the NCR53c810 chip on a PCI board. The real problem wasn't the : Talus driver being incompatible with the ASUS board, the problem was : that it was incompatible with the external NeXT CD-ROM drive. So when : we tried a third CD-ROM drive, a NEC 3xi, everything worked fine. Hi Markus, I tried to contact you by email, but your address doesn't seem to work (btw, there were two different addresses in your recent articles). Could you perhaps post the exact type of the ASUS mainboard that worked for you with the Talus driver ? I was a little bit shocked when I heard that there were problems especially with the ASUS boards. They seem to be the best choice for PCI at the moment (?). Gregor PS: A friend of mine had to pay 95,- DM for the miro 32s drivers. But perhaps this is included in the Alpine price ? -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommendations for internal HD... Date: 1 Jun 1994 10:58:25 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2si7mh$ij1@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver My cube's hard drive seems to have failed, so I'm looking for another. It needs to be at least as large as the old one (330MB) and preferably larger. Would anyone be willing to share a recommendation? I'm also interested if you have something suitable for sale. Thanks, DR
From: ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 1 Jun 1994 15:00:55 GMT Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University Message-ID: <2si7r7$eru@hippo.shef.ac.uk> References: <CqnKJr.KK0@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <2sfko3$kft@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> David Hill (hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca) wrote: : To get the advantage of a 56000, which is specialised for signal processing : operations, and has some strange quirks as a result, you need 56000 : assembler programming experience, and then the time to code the algorithm : in 56000 assembler. : or MusicKit, no...? Have fun, mmalcolm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@BITart.sub.org (Gerd Knops) Subject: Re: move hard drive to new w/o reinstall? Message-ID: <CqpxtE.C3@BITart.sub.org> Sender: usenet@BITart.sub.org Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting References: <2sgt98$r03@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:39:14 GMT In article <2sgt98$r03@gap.cco.caltech.edu> jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) writes: > > canI move a hard drive from a Dimension XPS P60 pentium > machine to a Optiplex 466/LV 486 without reinstalling > IDE: You have to be very lucky... SCSI: Should work, however I have heard rumours about DPT controllers using a special format, that also is depending on the cache (I know at least one case, where after removing cache from a DPT, it couldn't read its disk anymore...) Gerd
From: fliu@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NS/I boot manager eraised after upgrading DOS 6.0 to 6.2(solved) Date: 1 Jun 1994 16:02:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <2sibed$n5t@news.service.uci.edu> References: <2sfugn$eor@rosie.next.com> In article <2sfugn$eor@rosie.next.com> sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper) writes: > fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > > Two partitions on a 420MB IDE Drive: > > I just upgraded the DOS 6.0 partition to DOS 6.2 > > After upgrading everything works fine except the original NS/I > > boot manager is gone. > > Is there any way to get back the NS bootmanager? > Thanks to everyone who replied to my post. I used the following and got back the bootmanager. boot Nextstep, login as root and then disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rhd0h Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92717 phone: 714-725-3105
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 1 Jun 1994 16:30:32 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2sid38$ahk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> In article <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: > It is not surprising that your C code runs faster on a Pentium than on the > 56000 since it is essentially not possible to optimise a C compiler for > arbitrary signal processing on a specialised DSP chip like the 56000. > You don't even say which C compiler you were using, so I suspect you > are unaware of this particular trap. > > To get the advantage of a 56000, which is specialised for signal processing > operations, and has some strange quirks as a result, you need 56000 > assembler programming experience, and then the time to code the algorithm > in 56000 assembler. Messy, but worth it. Sigh... Why do you assume I'm an idiot? I wrote more than 5000 lines of 56000 code to replace all the C code. I wrote my own lisp subset to 56000 compiler with assembler, loader. Internet: messy, but probably not worth it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: Looking for DayDream Message-ID: <Cqps6F.8z@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) References: <Cqo688.CMq@ucdavis.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:37:27 GMT In article <Cqo688.CMq@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes: > > Looking for the distributor of the DayDream Box. > > Any info appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > David > > QUIX@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Quix Computerware AG, Ebikon,CH,IDP) Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
From: rimon@spectre.sas.upenn.edu (Rimon E. Huque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Boot 68030 BLACK Cube without Monitor? Date: 1 Jun 1994 19:46:06 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Distribution: world Message-ID: <2siohu$ivh@netnews.upenn.edu> What is the proper, safe procedure to boot (and keep up) an 030 cube without the monitor. When powering up the headless system, it crashes. I understand that by jumping a couple of pins in the 25- pin-cable to a ~500 ohm resistor, the cube can be fooled into believeing it has the display. Could somebody please e-mail me the detailed pinout procedure, including the power-switch simulation. We need to use the machine, while the display is being being shipped off for repair. I need the pinout configuration, because I will be making the cable myself, from scratch. Thank you in advance. R. Huque NB. Thanks, Chris, for guidance, but I need more details. CHEERS!
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus/NCR/ASUS - Up and running Message-ID: <1994Jun1.184549.20852@cc.usu.edu> Date: 1 Jun 94 18:45:49 MDT References: <HELGE.94May31201151@haddock.whitman.edu> <2si567$dc0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Organization: Utah State University In article <2si567$dc0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > Markus H|rnkvist (helge@haddock.whitman.edu) wrote: > > Could you perhaps post the exact type of the ASUS mainboard that worked > for you with the Talus driver ? I was a little bit shocked when I heard > that there were problems especially with the ASUS boards. They seem to be > the best choice for PCI at the moment (?). We have a number of people using the driver with the ASUS boards (including my personal machine). It's at home, but I'll post the exact model # tomorrow. Also, no reports on whether the audio CD problem with the Dec XL/ Toshiba 4401 CD-ROM is also present with other boards/CD drives. We are working with Talus to get that fixed as soon as possible (low, single digit weeks). DEC has been induced by NeXT to be... uncooperative. 'nuff said on that. > > Gregor > > PS: A friend of mine had to pay 95,- DM for the miro 32s drivers. But > perhaps this is included in the Alpine price ? > You bet. For the price of _THAT_ card, you deserve a driver ;^] ! Not that the speed and res aren't worth it, mind you... Dan Daniel L. Kramer Alpine Computing MicroAge alpine@cc.usu.edu > -- > | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | > | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | > | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | > | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Recommendations for HD case/power supply Message-ID: <1994Jun2.024206.22529@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:42:06 GMT I'm looking for an external case/power supply for a Seagate 2.1GB Barracuda drive. I would prefer something in black ABS plastic with shielding inside and possibly a lock. BTW - They do make cases with a lock & key, right? Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqrBzG.I0D@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <1994May30.053120.17180@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> <CqnGst.KD0@utstat.toronto.edu> <CqpCnL.B8s@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 06:42:51 GMT In article <CqpCnL.B8s@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: [ ] >Have you actually asked Turtle Beach what they will charge you for shipping >a Tahiti board to you, complete with a 56001 being run at 40MHz. The answer >will contradict your statement that they are expensive. They offer the >best value for money right now, and support developers! The last time I talked with them was when they were making the e-mu proteus based Multisound card and they wanted 4 times the price of a Sound Blaster. Since then, Creative Labs has bought out the proteus, and Turtle Beach appears to have all kinds of addon products( eg. a Maui). So, I haven't gotten around to finding out about their revamped line. Audio is nice, but I'd rather have support for inexpensive solutions at this point since we basically don't have any at all, unless you call the WSS and PAS16 cards solutions. Look, I am not opposed to anyone making a driver for some sound card. The more power to them. I personally want to see NS running on standard inexpensive computers with as wide an audience as possible. Since we are talking about PC's, I'm not sure we should expect wonders in the sound and video areas. NS/Intel is nice and it does make having a PC worthwhile. But to turn a PC into a multimedia platform would truly be a feat. There are more important things for NS to do as others can handle the multimedia part better. It's really a shame that NeXT is out of the hardware area. Sound should be on the motherboard and not some addon. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Yet another Sound Card Info request Date: 2 Jun 1994 07:02:25 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <2sk061$hnd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: sound Intel 486EI EISA System Board from AMI/Single Source Technology ATI VLBus mach32 Video Controller Card Adaptec ISA-to-SCSI Host Adapter, Model AHA-1542C Logitech Bus Mouse I am also looking for a recommendation for a sound card. I tried one which was on the NeXT hardware compatibility guide but which prevented my machine from booting because of an unfortunate conflict with my other cards (The ProAudio 16). So anyone who has an Adaptec 1542C and an ATI mach32 video card AND has working sound and video, could bring joy into the heart of a NeXTSTEP enthusiast trying to break into the exciting world of multi-media. Thanks for any recommendations mailed to: will.russell@tallis.ucsc.edu Happy computing! -- Name: Will Russell E-mail: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu Voice: 408-459-2060 FAX: 408-429-0146
From: rse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Robert Elder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Please help with NEC CD-ROM and Station Date: 2 Jun 1994 10:34:46 GMT Organization: University of Arizona Message-ID: <2skck6$cg1@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> I purchaced one of the older (dated Oct '92) NEC Intersect double speed CD-ROM drives and can not get it to work. My station recognizes the CD-ROM drive and then on the next line of the boot up messages it says something like: Waiting for sd1 to become ready ............. The LED on the drive blinks every second or so. The machine does nothing when a CD is inserted. Any solutions? Thanks for any info, Robert Elder (rse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) Subject: [Q] Intel ExtherExpress 32 and NS/FIP? Message-ID: <1994Jun1.223910.9799@radical2.radical.com> Sender: news@radical2.radical.com Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:39:10 GMT Does anyone know if the Intel EtherExpress 32 LAN Adapter works with NS/FIP? I am currently running the Intel EtherExpress 16 in my EISA/VLB system and it works great with NS/FIP 3.2! I was thinking of moving the "16" to an old ISA system and getting a "32" for the EISA/VLB system. Anyone tried the "32" and NS/FIP? Thanks. -- Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com ) Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Talus/NCR/ASUS - Up and running Message-ID: <1994Jun1.104146.1292@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <HELGE.94May31201151@haddock.whitman.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 10:41:46 GMT In article <HELGE.94May31201151@haddock.whitman.edu> helge@haddock.whitman.edu (Markus H|rnkvist) writes: > We finally managed to get NS running on an ASUS Pentium motherboard > with the NCR53c810 chip on a PCI board. The real problem wasn't the > Talus driver being incompatible with the ASUS board, the problem was > that it was incompatible with the external NeXT CD-ROM drive. So when > we tried a third CD-ROM drive, a NEC 3xi, everything worked fine. > > Now, if I could only find a driver for my Miro 16si... > This is GREAT news! We'll hook up our NeXT CD-ROM drive today and try to duplicate the problem you had. It would be helpful if you could send us the error reading you were getting (bugs@talus.msk.su). Our engineers would be happy to work with you on this problem (what a concept :-) We've had at least fifty requests regarding compatibility with the ASUS motherboard and we've made numerous attempts to contact them in Germany (the only number we have for them), but they have failed to respond. They probably just don't understand what a huge market this is :-))) If anyone has a contact number for ASUS in Taiwan or the U.S., could you pass it on to us. We'd like to buy some boards and test them thoroughly....we HATE bugs!! As far as the Miro 16si...you might want to contact Pencom, who wrote the driver....or (if you're into frustration) you could try asking NeXT :-)) OR.... You could wait just a little longer and throw an ATI Mach 64 PCI board in there instead and REALLY blaze :-)) Steve Sarich III Talus steve@talus.com 713-561-0700
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Post install SCSII CD-ROM problems on DECXL w/ Talus drvr Message-ID: <1994Jun1.223730.3651@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2sgqln$lgl@news.bu.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:37:30 GMT In article <2sgqln$lgl@news.bu.edu> cpribe@park.bu.edu (Chris Pribe) writes: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get NSfI 3.2 running on a DECXL 486/66 using > the Talus SCSII driver. I am able to load the system -- but once > I'm actually logged in, I have trouble reading the CD-ROM. > I've changed the jumpers on the back of the CD-ROM so that it is > not device 0 or 1 (according to the chart in the CD-ROM > documentation). However on boot up, the messages still call the > CD-ROM 'sd1'. > > If a CD is in the CD-ROM on boot up, sometimes it is > accessible. But any change of CD is not seen. Further, when > I run the CDplayer.app, the system always winds up with an > uninterruptable 'spinning disk'. > > Any thoughts on how I might fix this would be much > appreciated!! > Hi Chris, My best suggestion is to email us at: bugs@talus.msk.su You'll get a quick response from someone who understands the problem better than I do :-)) If you mail it off tonight, you'll have an answer by the time you wake up. Where else can you get NEXTSTEP support in the middle of the night?? (or even in the daytime, for that matter :-))))) No Flames, Please :-) Steve Sarich III steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqqMw3.9r8@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2sfko3$kft@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <2si7r7$eru@hippo.shef.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 21:40:50 GMT In article <2si7r7$eru@hippo.shef.ac.uk> ac1mdc@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk (M Crawford) writes: >David Hill (hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca) wrote: > >: To get the advantage of a 56000, which is specialised for signal processing >: operations, and has some strange quirks as a result, you need 56000 >: assembler programming experience, and then the time to code the algorithm >: in 56000 assembler. >: >or MusicKit, no...? > >Have fun, > >mmalcolm. Right! Or Music Kit, plus a *Driver* to allow Music Kit to drive the new board without a rewrite of Music Kit 8-) david ------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <Cqqq34.Aps@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <2sid38$ahk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:49:52 GMT In article <2sid38$ahk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.stanford.edu writes: >In article <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David >Hill) writes: >> It is not surprising that your C code runs faster on a Pentium than on >the >> 56000 since it is essentially not possible to optimise a C compiler for >> arbitrary signal processing on a specialised DSP chip like the 56000. >> You don't even say which C compiler you were using, so I suspect you >> are unaware of this particular trap. >> >> To get the advantage of a 56000, which is specialised for signal >processing >> operations, and has some strange quirks as a result, you need 56000 >> assembler programming experience, and then the time to code the >algorithm >> in 56000 assembler. Messy, but worth it. > >Sigh... Why do you assume I'm an idiot? I wrote more than 5000 lines >of 56000 code to replace all the C code. I wrote my own lisp subset to >56000 compiler with assembler, loader. Internet: messy, but probably >not worth it. I didn't assume you were an idiot. Quite the contrary :-) We probably shouldn't get into this too much but speed comparisons of the sort you are trying to make depend on a variety of factors including (a) what you are trying to code; (b) what precision is essential; and (c) how skilfully you can optimise. We have run identical optimised FFT algorithms on 486 and 56001. For a 1024 point FFT it took 17 msecs on the 486 and about 3 msecs on the 56001, per transform. The Pentium is, most optimistically about 50% faster in practice than the 486, which means it would take around 12 msecs for a 1024 point FFT on Pentium *i.e. four times slower than on the 56001*. If you are taking FIR filters (and many signal processing apps can be cast in such terms) then you can manage one instruction per tap if you have a multiply and accumulate instruction, which means the speed comparison is "How many clock cycles on the two machines concerned are required to do a multiply and accumulate". On the 56001 it is one clock cycle. I think in either case the 56001 beats the Pentium hands down. There is also the question of precision. Even with the best rounding, you'll lose 7 or 8 bits of precision on an FFT, so the 24 bit 56001 arithmetic will give you your 16 bits, if that's what you need. If you are running on a standard CPU with a co-processor you may find that requiring less than the maximum precision actually slows you down due to the fact the co-processor is going in 80-bit mode all the time, and less precision involves additional rounding instructions. I should probably have asked you to be a little more spcific about what it was you were coding as a basis for your informal benchmark. If it was not signal processing, then one wouldn't expect a signal processor to offer any advantage. The wording of your submission caused me to understand that you were doing some sort of signal processing (as opposed to conventional computing), and that you had used a C-compiler to produce the code that ran on the DSP, which is known to be sub-optimal. Anyway, I think the discussion is probably useful for some on the net, so don't conclude that internet is not worth using (or am I misinterpreting your final comment?). What exactly *were* you coding? If a Pentium is faster for some things, it would be useful if we all knew exactly what. :-) david ------------- -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 2 Jun 1994 16:19:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2sl0qp$pu3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <Cqqq34.Aps@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> In article <Cqqq34.Aps@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: > We have run identical optimised FFT algorithms on 486 and 56001. For a 1024 > point FFT it took 17 msecs on the 486 and about 3 msecs on the 56001, per > transform. The Pentium is, most optimistically about 50% faster in practice > than the 486, which means it would take around 12 msecs for a 1024 point FFT > on Pentium *i.e. four times slower than on the 56001*. I just ran a 1024 point FFT (in floating point) on the Pentium and it took 7.1 ms. But this battle of the fft's (or fir and mac instructions) is largely bogus. In the program in question, where fft's were being used for convolution or in analysis-resynthesis functions, much time is spent getting data in and out of the various buffers, doing non-trivial (i.e. not-purely-adds-and-multiplies) operations, etc etc (even leaving aside the fact that you've chosen 1024 to make the 56000 look good -- in musical applications you often want much larger fft's; and also leaving aside that the Pentium is running in floating point from C compiler output, whereas the 56000 was hand coded and uses "fractions"). The real killer is that it took me about a year to get everything running on the 56000, whereas the port to the Pentium took about 3 hours; and from the user's point of view, the program as a whole ran 3 to 4 times faster (and yes it's spending 90% of its time doing legitimate "signal processing").
From: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable for Station->LJIII Date: 2 Jun 1994 16:43:34 GMT Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services Message-ID: <0097F595.39C12300@vms.csd.mu.edu> I'm trying to hook up a LJIII w/o PS (for use with SoftPC) to a station. I've tried using a confirmed handshaking modem cable, but no luck... nothing gets to the printer (I'm using a terminal program to test it). Methinks I need a different cable... Any ideas? The interface settings on the LJ3 : RS-232, DTR HI, ROBUST XON. (I've tried other combinations). Thanks, Ryan Brooks
From: helge@castafiore.chalmers.se (Markus H|rnkvist) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus/NCR/ASUS - Up and running Date: 02 Jun 1994 17:40:35 GMT Organization: Chalmers Message-ID: <HELGE.94Jun2194036@castafiore.chalmers.se> References: <HELGE.94May31201151@haddock.whitman.edu> <2si567$dc0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <1994Jun1.184549.20852@cc.usu.edu> In-reply-to: alpine@cc.usu.edu's message of 1 Jun 94 18:45:49 MDT In article <1994Jun1.184549.20852@cc.usu.edu> alpine@cc.usu.edu writes: In article <2si567$dc0@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > Markus H|rnkvist (helge@haddock.whitman.edu) wrote: Hmm, there must be an error in my news reader settings, my address is: helge@cd.chalmers.se > > Could you perhaps post the exact type of the ASUS mainboard that worked > for you with the Talus driver ? I was a little bit shocked when I heard > that there were problems especially with the ASUS boards. They seem to be > the best choice for PCI at the moment (?). Sure.... It is a PCI/I-P5MP3/66 :) We have a number of people using the driver with the ASUS boards (including my personal machine). It's at home, but I'll post the exact model # tomorrow. Also, no reports on whether the audio CD problem with the Dec XL/ Toshiba 4401 CD-ROM is also present with other boards/CD drives. We are working with Talus to get that fixed as soon as possible (low, single digit weeks). DEC has been induced by NeXT to be... uncooperative. 'nuff said on that. > > Gregor > > PS: A friend of mine had to pay 95,- DM for the miro 32s drivers. But > perhaps this is included in the Alpine price ? > You bet. For the price of _THAT_ card, you deserve a driver ;^] ! Not that the speed and res aren't worth it, mind you... Well I bought a miro 16Si from Alpine, and I did not get a driver... although I was told I would get one. Maybe this could be fixed though. (Hint) Dan Daniel L. Kramer Alpine Computing MicroAge alpine@cc.usu.edu > -- > | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | > | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | > | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | > | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) | Markus Hornkvist and John Hornkvist helge@cd.chalmers.se hornkvjm@math.whitman.edu No NeXTmail...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Subject: NSFIP with two ethernet boards? Message-ID: <1994Jun2.151114.1794@aplki.toppoint.de> Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger) Organization: Andreas Ploeger Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:11:14 GMT Is it possible to have two ethernet boards in a PC running under NEXTSTEP? Or are there any twin port ethernet boards supported? Thanks, A. Ploeger -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Ploeger E-Mail: ploeger@tpki.toppoint.de
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Driver for miro 16Si Message-ID: <1994Jun2.104848.20911@cc.usu.edu> Date: 2 Jun 94 10:48:47 MDT References: <HELGE.94May31205946@haddock.chalmers.se> Distribution: world Organization: Utah State University In article <HELGE.94May31205946@haddock.chalmers.se>, helge@haddock.chalmers.se (Markus H|rnkvist) writes: > I recently bought a miro 16Si from Alpine, and I was told that it came > with a driver for NS. I did not receive the driver. Does anyone out > there have the driver, and could you mail it to me? (No NeXTmail) > > I am currently running in the VGA mode... and getting desperate. :) > > Thanks! > > /Markus Well, we have tried to e-mail Markus twice, and it keeps bouncing, so I'll post this here and hope he sees it - also for general info. For some reason, miro didn't package the driver with the card, as they usually do. We will try to train them better, but in the interim: the 16S driver is available on their BBS at (415)-855-9944. Sorry for the trouble. If you have any other questions or problems, please get back to us at the phone or email addresses below. Thanks, Dan & Steve Daniel L. Kramer Steve Koch Alpine Computing MicroAge alpine@cc.usu.edu (800) 748-5588 (801) 752-6688
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:17:50 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <CqrBzG.I0D@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > ... Audio is nice, but I'd rather have support > for inexpensive solutions at this point since we basically don't > have any at all, unless you call the WSS and PAS16 cards solutions. One thing to remember in the context of Talus drivers is that Talus itself isn't in this for charity. I suspect they want to write a driver that they can sell. If you're shooting for some $100 sound card, then they're going to have sell the driver for next to nothing or everyone will cry "foul". The PAS16 card is an "adequate" solution on my system. If I'm going to go out and spend money for both a new sound card and a decent driver for that sound card, then I'm certainly going to want something that's worth the time and trouble. I'm happy enough with my Talus driver for the DECpc XL560 that I'd be interested in seeing what they come up with, but I'm not going to jump at it unless it's a significant improvement over what I have with the PAS16. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New JetDirect cards for HP printers Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:59:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sla6c$6i@agate.berkeley.edu> While getting info for ordering a HP1200C/PS, I found the following which might be of interest to some here (since I saw some posts asking how to use a JetDirect card with NEXTSTEP.) It looks like HP finally improved their JetDirect MIO cards for placing HP LaserJet/DeskJet printers directly onto Ethernet. The new cards (J25xx series) are claimed to support 'lpd' protocol which should just work with NEXTSTEP. Old ones (J23xx series) did not support lpd protocol, although it supported a simpler TCP/IP connection, requiring a special driver such as TCPprd from Uptime Object Factory or something similar for NS (demo on standard archive sites). (And HP didn't have driver support for NS, not surprisingly). [There was also an option of using Emulex NetJet card.] New cards also do hot-switching or automatic protocol switching so NS, NetWare, Mac's can all print to it without reconfigration. We will have to see how it does with NS. Some excerpts from: ftp://ftp-boi.external.hp.com/pub/printers/laserjet/doc/4plfaq.exe You have to unpack this on a DOS machine/emulator (sigh). --- New JetDirect cards' features include automatic protocol switching for all HP printers with modular input/output (MIO) slots, JetAdmin for UNIXr system-based computers, line-printer daemon (lpd) support for UNIX system-based computers, enhanced NetWare support, Flash EPROM, integrated Ethernet/LocalTalk card, and enhanced Token Ring support. .... The previous generation of JetDirect cards offered protocol switching only when used with the HP LaserJet 4Si MX network printer. The new cards bring this capability to all HP printers and plotters with HP MIO slots. Automatic protocol switching allows a printer to be shared in mixed network environments and also simplifies installation since the printer does not need to be configured for protocol support. .... Support for lpd is embedded in the new JetDirect card firmware, providing basic printing support for a wide variety of UNIX system-based NOSs not specifically supported by JetDirect host software. The lpd utility is common to most UNIX system-based environments -- it moves a print job from one host to another host connected to a printer. Lpd eliminates the need for an additional spooling workstation or device between host and printer (See backgrounder). New MIO Cards Part No. New Price Old Price Change JetDirect for J2550A $369 $449 18 Ethernet (10BaseT only) JetDirect for J2552A 429 499 14 Ethernet/LocalTalk (10BaseT, 10Base2, 8-pin mini-DIN) [J23xxA series cards are OLD, don't get those.] -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ] USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323 (NeXT & MIME mails welcome. Finger for public key.)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Talus/NCR/ASUS - Up and running Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:23:57 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sl83t$lqc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Jun1.184549.20852@cc.usu.edu> Daniel L. Kramer alpine@cc.usu.edu writes: > Also, no reports on whether the audio CD problem with the > Dec XL/ Toshiba 4401 CD-ROM is also present with other boards/CD > drives. We are working with Talus to get that fixed as soon as > possible (low, single digit weeks). DEC has been induced by NeXT > to be... uncooperative. 'nuff said on that. Uh, what audio CD problem? I can play music CD's on my DECpc XL560 using it's internal toshiba-based CD-ROM drive. Mine says it's a "DEC RRD43 (C) DEC" drive, revision 0064. Isn't that the same thing? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT fan Date: 2 Jun 1994 19:24:53 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2slbm5$sdq@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Perhaps I'm being a little over-sensitive, but I would be happier if my NeXTstation fan made a little less noise. Does anyone have any suggestions? Would cleaning or lubrication help in any way. I should add that my computer sits in a fairly dusty location. Other than the fan, my NeXT has been great....now if I only had color.... -jamey.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace From: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu (James Goes) Subject: Looking for NS/Intel system recommendations Message-ID: <Cqs4sF.5xv@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities Distribution: goes Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 17:03:39 GMT Please forgive the cross-post, but it seemed appropriate. I'm looking for informed opinions and advice about white (Intel-based) systems to run NS 3.2. I've read the FAQs and hardware compatibility guide, but am looking for more "soft" information based on users' experiences. I have about $3000 to spend on a system, and would like that to include a color-ready system with CD-ROM, tape backup, a good size hard drive, and hopefully sound capability. I'm looking for something that will run NS3.2 out of the box with a minimum of hassle. Am I dreaming? Does anyone have any advice on system options I should seriously look at? Have Pentium systems generally been compatible or are there problems to consider. Has anyone had any experience with Gateway systems? I would appreciate any advice on brand, specifications, etc. that you can provide. Please respond by direct mail and I will summarize if there is interest. Thanks a bunch. *************************************************************** Jim Goes + InterNet: goes@chimera.sph.umn.edu Health Management & Policy + (NeXTmail welcome!) School of Public Health + Phone: (612) 624-3118 University of Minnesota + FAX: (612) 624-3972 ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Post install SCSII CD-ROM problems on DECXL w/ Talus drvr Date: 2 Jun 1994 21:37:32 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sljes$t5@rosie.next.com> References: <2sgqln$lgl@news.bu.edu> In article <2sgqln$lgl@news.bu.edu> cpribe@park.bu.edu (Chris Pribe) writes: :Hi, : : I'm trying to get NSfI 3.2 running on a DECXL 486/66 using :the Talus SCSII driver. I am able to load the system -- but once :I'm actually logged in, I have trouble reading the CD-ROM. :I've changed the jumpers on the back of the CD-ROM so that it is :not device 0 or 1 (according to the chart in the CD-ROM :documentation). However on boot up, the messages still call the :CD-ROM 'sd1'. This is because it still is sd1. SCSI device ID's (sd0, etc.) and target ID's (what you set with the jumpers) are different; device ID's are assigned in order of increasing target ID's. For example, if your bus has a hard disk at target 0 and a CD-ROM at target 4, the hard disk is sd0 and the CD-ROM is sd1. : If a CD is in the CD-ROM on boot up, sometimes it is :accessible. But any change of CD is not seen. Further, when :I run the CDplayer.app, the system always winds up with an :uninterruptable 'spinning disk'. CDPlayer doesn't work with all CD players, but there a few things in the following NeXTanswer which you can try. If it's an issue with the driver, Talus can help you best (as Steve suggested). Ethan NeXT != me; we don't speak for each other. ----- NEXTSTEP Title: CDPlayer Troubleshooting Entry Number: 1579 Last Updated: 14 April 94 Document Revision: 494A Keywords: CDPlayer, CD-ROM, SCSI Overview CDPlayer is a demo application and therefore isn't officially supported by NeXT. However, here is some troubleshooting information that may help if you are having trouble getting CDPlayer to work with your configuration. Limitations CDPlayer was written specifically to support the Sony CDU-541 CD-ROM. Unfortunately, since there is no accepted standard for CD audio interfaces, different CD-ROM drives use different commands for playing audio. Therefore not all drives work with CDPlayer. NeXT doesn't maintain a list of compatible CD-ROMs. However, we know the Toshiba 3401 is incompatible with CDPlayer. You can't play CD audio directly through NEXTSTEP using either the internal jumper-style connectors or internal SCSI connector present on some sound cards. Use headphones or an external amplifier with speakers to hear CD audio. (You can record CD audio into NEXTSTEP by connecting an external cable from your CD-ROM drive's audio output to your sound card's audio input.) Troubleshooting Don't try to install CDPlayer by copying it directly from the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM. Instead, install the Demonstrations.pkg package in /NeXTCD/Packages on the NEXTSTEP CD-ROM. If you start up CDPlayer manually by double-clicking its icon, it can find the CD-ROM drive only if the system is using exactly one of the SCSI IDs 0 and 1. Therefore, if you boot from a SCSI hard disk with ID 0, set your CD-ROM drive and all other SCSI devices to IDs of 2 or higher, leaving SCSI ID 1 unused. You can launch CDPlayer automatically by inserting an audio CD in the CD-ROM drive, no matter how the SCSI IDs are set. If this autolaunching doesn't work, try these steps: 1 Turn on the setuid bit for the CDPlayer executable. If you installed CDPlayer by installing Demonstrations.pkg from the CD-ROM, this bit already should be on already. You can check the bit by typing this command in Terminal: ls -l /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer Substitute the correct pathname if you have moved the CDPlayer application. You should see something like this: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root 57344 Aug 20 1993 ... If the permissions are set to -rwxr-xr-x, then the setuid bit has not been set. Set this bit by typing this command: chmod u+s /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer 2 If the applicaton still won't launch automatically, turn on the Public Window Server option in Preferences' Expert Preferences, then log out and log back in. Note that this setting creates a potential security risk; see the NEXTSTEP User's Guide for further details.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) Subject: NSFIP System Boot Problem Message-ID: <CqsL5A.Ly5@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 22:58:22 GMT I have a 3.2 system that was working fine until today. The system during reboot panic-ed when it tried to run an fsck (unexpeced inconsistency was flashed briefly before it put out the panic message). I got the system to boot from the CDROM and got fsck to run, but now the system will not boot to GUI mode. The last thing it says before displaying a '#' prompt is: Check disks /dev/rsd0a: file system clean: skipping check Faking root mount entries erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U How do I boot to multi-user? ( control-d didn't work ) Thanks Brendan
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diagnosing printer problem... Date: 2 Jun 1994 19:17:24 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2slpa4$jkt@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver My cube no longer thinks the laser printer is there. Nothing's changed since it last worked, so I suspect that the power supply may have gone bad. So, my question is: is there a way to verify this? Doing a "nppower on" results in a "/dev/np something-or-other not found"; I'm wondering if there's a way to try to turn the thing on independently of cube control. Thanks, DR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <CqrBzG.I0D@utstat.toronto.edu> <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:43:39 GMT In article <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: [ ] >One thing to remember in the context of Talus drivers is that >Talus itself isn't in this for charity. I suspect they want >to write a driver that they can sell. If you're shooting for >some $100 sound card, then they're going to have sell the >driver for next to nothing or everyone will cry "foul". That's a good point. I'd forgotten that there's a charge for drivers! Well, clearly it then makes no sense for them to develop a driver for an inexpensive sound card. Perhaps someone else will. The idea of paying for drivers doesn't feel right ... > >The PAS16 card is an "adequate" solution on my system. If I'm >going to go out and spend money for both a new sound card and >a decent driver for that sound card, then I'm certainly going >to want something that's worth the time and trouble. I'm happy >enough with my Talus driver for the DECpc XL560 that I'd be >interested in seeing what they come up with, but I'm not going >to jump at it unless it's a significant improvement over what >I have with the PAS16. The PAS16 is fine provided you don't have an ISA system with a busmastering SCSI card. When I was all IDE, it worked ok. Once I added an Adaptec 1542CF and a SCSI hard drive I started to get lockups. Since then I have been trying the MediaTriX card and it does not lock up the system. On the other hand NeXT's WSS driver doesn't work properly with the card for recording. FM sounds are not pretty. The OPL4 used in the Audiotrix Pro card provides very good sound combined with the 2 megs of sound in ROM and the possibility for an added RAM module. This is one nice inexpensive card. The WSS card uses a mike which plugs into the joystick port! Can one buy these types of microphones? - >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu >ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Who's bought a Gekko already? Date: 02 Jun 1994 22:52:23 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jun2235223@steffi.demon.co.uk> So Who's bought on already? -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: dellis@halcyon.com (David L. Ellis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Open Letter to Next Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 3 Jun 1994 01:08:23 GMT Organization: iSYS Consulting Distribution: world Message-ID: <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com> I would just like to make my voice heard on the subject of Next's treatment of Talus. I do not know all the details and circumstances existing in this relationship, but I do know that Next has a problem with drivers just as IBM has problems getting drivers for OS/2. It is in everyone's benifit to get good and copious numbers of drivers for the ever growing hardware field that Next is trying to support. Intel, HP PA/RISC, SPARC, whatever... I don't know why Next has not embraced the talent at Talus, and at least Next should give these guys some credit for making the Intel world at least SOMEWHAT hopeful that NSFIP will someday work on their hardware. I have heard that Next does not like Talus, and that Next even goes out of their way to hinder Talus' efforts in bringing more drivers to market. I do hope that, if this is true, that Next will either come forward in a public manner and tell us the reason why, or that they will stop this silliness and start supporting Talus in a more substantial way. I have no affiliation with Talus, and do not even own any hardware for which they are working towards a solution, but I am a long time Next observer and supporter; and I can only see this situation as being detrimental to both Next as a company and all of Next's users. Thank you for your consideration, and if there is a more appropriate forum for this letter, please let me know. David L. Ellis 3435 Scenic Dr. SE Auburn, WA 98002 (206) 939-5343
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <1994Jun3.013312.15794@adobe.com> Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <CqpDy9.BoI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <2sid38$ahk@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <Cqqq34.Aps@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 01:33:12 GMT In article <Cqqq34.Aps@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes: >The Pentium is, most optimistically about 50% faster in practice >than the 486, which means it would take around 12 msecs for a 1024 point FFT >on Pentium *i.e. four times slower than on the 56001*. I don't know what clock speeds you are comparing, but here are some SPECmarks which disagree with your assumptions: SPECint'92 SPECfp'92 486DX2/66 32.4 16.1 P5/66 64.5 56.9 If you're doing your FFT's in fixed point, you should see a roughly 2x performance improvement with a good 486 optimizing compiler. If you are doing floating point FFT's, you should see better than a 3x improvement. These are conservative SPEC's, too. The SPECmarks Intel publishes are higher. Perry -- caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: bf148@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Shad Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC Express II 466 ST (8/540 EISA) and NSI 3.2 Date: 3 Jun 1994 03:27:59 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Message-ID: <2sm7vv$4g2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hello, I am considering purchasing the above system for use with NSI 3.2, and would appreciate comments from anyone who has used this sytem. Thanks, Shad -- .;:=/||_|00)\..
From: seltzer@pinyon.libre.com (Andy Seltzer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1gb / HD / for sale Date: 2 Jun 1994 20:21:25 -0700 Organization: Evergreen Communications Message-ID: <2sm7jl$jt1@pinyon.libre.com> i sold a next guy qty 6 / 1gb / scsi disk subsystems (almost by mistake) only to find out that i may be the greatest deal in the world for you guys ? -- SCSI peripherals / WHOLESALE / ONLY new w/ full mfg's warranty Disk Drives 300mb-9gb/RAID 1gb-80gb * Tape Drives 4mm 8mm 1/4" 1/2" SeagateFujitsuHitachiConnerQuantum * ExabyteSonyArchiveTandbergOverland CD-ROM/CD Recorders/M/O Optical * Voice 310-546-3033 Fax 310-546-2013
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DEC XL and the Talus Driver - update Message-ID: <1994Jun2.181758.20949@cc.usu.edu> Date: 2 Jun 94 18:17:58 MDT References: <1994Jun1.184549.20852@cc.usu.edu> <2sl83t$lqc@usenet.rpi.edu> Distribution: world Organization: Utah State University In article <2sl83t$lqc@usenet.rpi.edu>, gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > Daniel L. Kramer alpine@cc.usu.edu writes: >> Also, no reports on whether the audio CD problem with the >> Dec XL/ Toshiba 4401 CD-ROM is also present with other boards/CD >> drives. We are working with Talus to get that fixed as soon as >> possible (low, single digit weeks). DEC has been induced by NeXT >> to be... uncooperative. 'nuff said on that. > > Uh, what audio CD problem? I can play music CD's on my DECpc XL560 > using it's internal toshiba-based CD-ROM drive. Mine says it's a > "DEC RRD43 (C) DEC" drive, revision 0064. Isn't that the same thing? Yep. But we're trying to get the driver to run audio CD's without having to use the XAmode fix (which I still haven't been able to find, but I've been busy 'round here). I shipped Talus a DEC XL today so they can have an actual machine to work on (UPS red - ouch!, but they only send shipments to Moscow once or twice a week). I want to get the driver working seamlessly for the XL so I can gun for DEC's big government sales. Dan Daniel L. Kramer Alpine Computing alpine @cc.usu.edu > > -- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jfb@langoz.biomath.jussieu.fr (BOISVIEUX Jean-Francois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Who's bought a Gekko already? Date: 3 Jun 1994 06:55:34 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Distribution: world Message-ID: <2smk56$70l@vishnu.jussieu.fr> References: <ROBERT.94Jun2235223@steffi.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <ROBERT.94Jun2235223@steffi.demon.co.uk> robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes: > So Who's bought on already? > -- > "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" > (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) > (ASCII for text only messages) I've ordered one yesterday and I'll have it beginning of next week; (712-80), I've choosen a HP for number crunching, and since I 'm not sure of the nextstep port (still in beta here) I've choosen a dual boot system one disk with nextstep the other with HPUX. Also I'm not (quite) sure to be able to port the public domains software (emacs 19.22 etc, rapidly). The additionnal price for nexstep is *extremely* low, (less than 2000 FF) so the risk is really small for the money. -- Jean-Francois Boisvieux (NeXT mail O.K) Departement de Biomathematiques Faculte de medecine Pitie-Salpetriere 75013 Paris France
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Trackballs for NS/Intel? Message-ID: <1994Jun3.043114.25135@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 04:31:14 GMT Anyone using a trackball with NS/Intel? Anyone know of a driver? Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
From: michi@cube (Michele Giardini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel EtherExpress not working ... Date: 3 Jun 1994 08:32:13 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <2smpqd$33c@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Hello, here at the Computer Science Dept. we have a 486 Machine with installed an EtherExpress 16 board. It usually runs with NEXTSTEP, and everything used to work very fine. Until last week ... I have a DOS partition, so I've installed Windows for Workgroup (just to try) and configured the Network section to use the Intel card. I've rebooted the PC, but Windows didn't find the net. So I've rebooted in NEXTSTEP to see what's happening, but it didn't find the ethernet card (it was configured with IRQ 10, memory address 300, AUI connector). My last action was to run softset.exe (Ver. 2.03). It says that the EtherExpress EEPROM is unprogrammed (due probably to an I/O conflict with another board ???) and I'm not able to reconfigure it. Softset just display the message and then reboot the machine :-(. There's no I/O conflict, and the card was running under NS for at least three weeks. I haven't installed any additional board, so I've no hint about what's the problem could be. I've asked to the UK Intel Technical support, to our local dealer (BTW, it's the Italian Intel distributor), but I've got no response. It seems that they know what the problem could be (WFW, I think ...), but I don't have a solution, yet ... I know that I could load the board configuration using softset, but I have no file with the configuration. Having this file, probably it could solve the problem. I don't know ... I badly need to use this machine connected to the net, because it was running several network services (some of them useful for the whole Department) ... If someone out there has experienced the same problem, and he knows how to solve it, please let me know. Ciao Michele PS: The card works fine with Dos and Windoz, just because Window load some kind of driver at the boot time. Under NS, during the boot, the card show a strange Ethernet address (something like 13:52:13:52:13:52 ...) and doesn't work ... -- Giardini Michele - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006266 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
From: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ppd for HP1200C/PS Date: 3 Jun 1994 08:33:55 GMT Organization: University of Constance Message-ID: <2smptj$88c@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Hello I am looking for the ppd File of the HP DeskJet 1200C/PS. Does this files exist for NeXT. I have seen it for mac/win at ftp.adobe.com . Where can I find it . Thanks Erland -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Erland Wittkoetter -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Uni Konstanz, Dept.of Physics, LS Dehnen, PO.Box 5560, 78434 Konstanz Phone: +(49) 7531-88-3747 FAX. +(49) 7531-88-3888 (priv.) Abendbergweg 7, 78465 Konstanz,Germany, Phone:+(49)7531-43078 E-mail: Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mdan@diku.dk (Michael Daldorph Nielsen) Subject: ATI Mach32 PCI driver Message-ID: <1994Jun3.091457.11452@odin.diku.dk> Sender: mdan@embla.diku.dk Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 09:14:57 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen Keywords: ATI Mach32 I am running NS/I 3.2 on a IBM P60/D. Using the ATI on board driver doesn't work at all (screen flickers). Is there a driver available for the ATI Mach32 PCI? Michael (mdan@diku.dk)
From: albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1542CF Date: 3 Jun 1994 16:40:13 +0300 Organization: Tampere University of Technology Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2snbrt$oh9@proffa.cc.tut.fi> This is a forwarded message from: Juha Tuominen I'm having difficulties in installing NeXTstep 3.2 (intel) using Adaptec's 1542CF and 2 GB Seagate Barracuda. Here's what I've tried this far: 1. I revised the adaptec device driver (ftp.next.com: /pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/3.2_Drivers/Adaptec_154x...) and installed it on a floppy so that I could install it to harddisk during NeXTstep installation (in the beginning of installation NeXTstep asks if the user wants to install additional device drivers). Everything went fine until the system reboots to continue the installation from hd instead of the floppy. When the screen with NeXT's gray bar on the top appears, the screen gets full of error messages: threath: waitForInterrupt: -735 I couldn't think any sensible way to continue the installation in this way. 2. I grabbed a BusLogic 742 card from another PC and installed the whole system without any problems. When the system was alive and running well I installed the new Adaptec driver and system was still running very well. Then I swapped the scsi cards and the problems began again: When system starts up and ask if the user wants to boot NeXTstep/DOS (I always choose NeXT), the good-old-message "NO BASIC ROM - SYSTEM HALTED" appears on the screen. I couldn't think any sensible way to continue the installation in this way either. All help appreciated. -Juha
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intermittent boot problems... Date: 3 Jun 1994 10:17:54 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2sne2i$k47@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver Has anyone ever encountered a problem like this with black hardware (mine is an 040 cube): Sometimes the machine boots fine. Sometimes when the machine attempts to boot the hard disk makes a repeated clicking sound (about 1 sec between repeats) that sounds like a first seek; the hard disk is never recognized. Sometimes when the machine attempts to boot there is no sound and the hard disk is never recognized. In all cases the initial ROM diagnostic passes. For whatever reason, taking the back off the machine seems to increase the chances of a successful boot. Clearly, something is marginal; the back plate issue makes me think that maybe it's some kind of loose connector. I've reseated everything about a zillion times to no effect. Please, if any of this sounds familiar, let me know. I don't have any more money to put into this thing, and without advice all I can do is try to replace major components until I find the one that's messed up. Thanks, DR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Dudney_Bill@pcp.ca (Bill Dudney) Subject: IDE on a Gateway PCI Message-ID: <1994Jun3.144827.6589@pcp.ca> Keywords: PCI IDE Gateway Sender: news@pcp.ca Organization: PanCanadian Petroleum Ltd. Date: Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:48:27 GMT Hi all, I have a Gateway PCI 486/66 which I am trying to get NS up and running on. I have a PCI IDE controller which I suspected to be the problem so I bought an ISA IDE controller. This would not work either. I was able to get NS loaded onto my disk from a friend who has SCSI so the build is done, I just cant get it to boot. The failure message is: load of /etc/mach_init trying /etc/init load of /etc/init failed Then after displaying a error number it just sits there. Any ideas or suggestions would be quite welcome. Please respond via email and I'll summarize if there is enough interest. Thanks in advance, Bill Dudney
From: merz@ips.id.ethz.ch (Andreas Merz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [ND] Is there a i860 "DX2"? Date: 3 Jun 1994 15:07:24 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Message-ID: <2sngvc$qm3@elna.ethz.ch> References: <CqoqAo.HB7@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CqoqAo.HB7@news.cis.umn.edu> Doug Moore writes: > Wishful thinking I know, but does anybody out there know if there is > such a beast? If so, does anybody have an educated opinion as to > what effect this would have on video performance on the ND? there are newer i860 with improved performance, but not such things as double clock etc. The improvement is not worth to buy a new chip for your ND board. -- ---------------> Andreas Merz / Internet: merz@ips.ethz.ch <---------------- ------> Interdisciplinary Project Center for Supercomputing (IPS) <------ "The solution of the mind is an organised way of not coming to any conclusion" -Sri Chinmoy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) Subject: Re: Open Letter to Next Message-ID: <CqttEw.A0u@txnews.amd.com> Sender: news@txnews.amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX References: <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:54:30 GMT In article <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com> dellis@halcyon.com (David L. Ellis) writes: >>I would just like to make my voice heard on the subject of Next's treatment >>of Talus. I do not know all the details and circumstances existing in this >>relationship, but I do know that Next has a problem with drivers just as >>IBM has problems getting drivers for OS/2. It is in everyone's benifit to >>get good and copious numbers of drivers for the ever growing hardware field >>that Next is trying to support. Intel, HP PA/RISC, SPARC, whatever... I >>don't know why Next has not embraced the talent at Talus, and at least Next >>should give these guys some credit for making the Intel world at least >>SOMEWHAT hopeful that NSFIP will someday work on their hardware. I have >>heard that Next does not like Talus, and that Next even goes out of their >>way to hinder Talus' efforts in bringing more drivers to market. I do hope >>that, if this is true, that Next will either come forward in a public >>manner and tell us the reason why, or that they will stop this silliness >>and start supporting Talus in a more substantial way. >> >>I have no affiliation with Talus, and do not even own any hardware for >>which they are working towards a solution, but I am a long time Next >>observer and supporter; and I can only see this situation as being >>detrimental to both Next as a company and all of Next's users. >> >>Thank you for your consideration, and if there is a more appropriate forum >>for this letter, please let me know. >> Ditto! -- Ronald Pomeroy Advanced Micro Devices CIM Applications Group rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene' Kulschewski) Subject: Re: NeXT fan Message-ID: <PMCPBWWB@rkt.in-berlin.de> Sender: root@rkt.in-berlin.de (Operator) Organization: Home in Berlin References: <2slbm5$sdq@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 05:48:10 GMT James Nielsen (nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : Perhaps I'm being a little over-sensitive, but I would be happier if my : NeXTstation fan made a little less noise. Does anyone have any : suggestions? Would cleaning or lubrication help in any way. I should add : that my computer sits in a fairly dusty location. I've replaced the original fan with a low-noise, temperature controlled fan from a PC power-supply. It works great. Rene' -- _____________________________________________________________________________ <rene@prz.tu-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski <rene@rkt.in-berlin.de>
From: bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Date: 3 Jun 1994 16:11:11 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2snkmv$cvb@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2sl0qp$pu3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <2sl0qp$pu3@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes: > I just ran a 1024 point FFT (in floating point) on the Pentium and > it took 7.1 ms. Oops -- it has been kindly pointed out to me that I need new glasses. I misread the timing info -- make that 71ms.
From: lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Need recommendations for tape backup and cd-rom drives Date: 3 Jun 1994 16:46:09 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Message-ID: <2snmoh$pu0@sundog.tiac.net> I'm in need of advice on purchasing SCSI tape backup and CD-ROM drives that work across NS Intel/Moto/HP. NS compatibility, high quality, and speed are the main issues. Any info, hints, recommendations and horror stories would be greatly appreciated. I'm pretty clueless about what's latest/greatest for these peripherals ... Thanks a bunch, Chris -- |: Christopher Lloyd :|: Yrrid Incorporated :|: lloyd@yrrid.com :| |: Fish Cannot Carry Guns :|
From: park@isl (Sang Ju Park) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT fan Date: 3 Jun 1994 16:56:44 GMT Organization: Information Systems Lab, Stanford University Message-ID: <2snncc$d00@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2slbm5$sdq@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> <PMCPBWWB@rkt.in-berlin.de> Rene' Kulschewski (rene@rkt.in-berlin.de) wrote: : I've replaced the original fan with a low-noise, temperature controlled fan : from a PC power-supply. It works great. : Rene' Is there any similar low-noise fan for Cube ? Original fan in my cube is somewhat noisy. --- Sang Ju Park (park@isl.stanford.edu)
From: french@sooth.zso.dec.com (Larry French) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FOR SALE: Cube + Laser Printer Date: 3 Jun 1994 17:35:56 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2snpls$p5u@usenet.pa.dec.com> Keywords: Cube, printer, laser I am selling my complete 68040 NeXT Cube, 400 dpi laser printer and monitor. Here is how the system is configured: 68040 NeXT Cube with 8MB of memory 300MB hard disk Megapixel monochrome monitor 400 dpi NeXT laser printer Optical disk drive (no floppy drive) NextStep 2.0 DoveFax 2400 baud modem (not yet installed). This system is in near-mint condition. For example, the laser printer is just starting on its second toner cartridge. Make me an offer! Please reply via email or call me at (206) 882-2087. - Larry French
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com Subject: Re: ppd for HP1200C/PS Message-ID: <1994Jun3.172154.12553@adobe.com> Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated References: <2smptj$88c@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:21:54 GMT In article <2smptj$88c@hermes.uni-konstanz.de> Erland.Wittkoetter@uni-konstanz.de (Erland Wittkoetter) writes: >Hello > >I am looking for the ppd File of the HP DeskJet 1200C/PS. >Does this files exist for NeXT. I have seen it for mac/win at >ftp.adobe.com . Where can I find it . > > Thanks > Erland The Mac or Windows PPD files will work just fine. Log into ftp.adobe.com and retreive the Mac version (named HP~DeskJet~1200C). You can convert the \r's to \n's with the following command: tr '\015' '\012' < HP~DeskJet~1200C > HP_DeskJet_1200C Now install this PPD file (HP_DeskJet_1200C) and you're off. If you have other PPD related questions, you may wish to refer to the NeXT System Administration manual in Digital Librarian. Search for ppd. Hope this helps, Joe Pasqua Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James A. McGilvray) Subject: 16MB SIMMS on NDs? Message-ID: <1994Jun3.180240.9034@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 18:02:40 GMT Hi, all, I need more memory for an ND board. I know 8MB SIMMS work; has anyone tried 16MB SIMMS on an ND? Thanks for any information. Jim E-mail: jim@philo.mcgill.ca NeXT mail welcome
From: rayg@cs.bu.edu (Raymond Gasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple color printer vs NeXT Date: 3 Jun 1994 19:14:52 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <2snvfc$gvv@news.bu.edu> Does anyone know the difference between using an old version Apple color printer and using a NeXT color printer with the NeXTstep color printer driver. Both printers seem to be the same model from Canon, but I suspect the roms may be different and may cause problems on the Apple model when using the NStep color printer driver. The reason I ask is that the Apple version has also been discontinued, but seem to be plentiful, cost $500, match the color of my Intel based NeXT, and come with the standard warranty from Apple. Thanks in advance. -- Ray Gasser rayg@cs.bu.edu
From: dhess@net.tamu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will this motherboard work? Date: 3 Jun 1994 20:11:12 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2so2p0$13v@news.tamu.edu> We are putting a machine together around the AIR 586EP board. I would also like to use this box to run NEXTSTEP. This is a 60/66 Mhz Pentium box with 5 EISA and 2 PCI slots. It also has an onboard Adaptec 7870 Fast and Wide SCSI-2 controller and a floppy controller that will talk to 2.88MB drives. The video will be done off board with an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA card. I'm worried that the 7870 will give me a problem. The 7770 shows up as supported but not the 7870. Will I be able to use it at all? Or will I just not be able to use the Fast & Wide SCSI-2 port? Comments/suggestions? Thanks. -- David K. Hess Network Analyst David-Hess@tamu.edu Computing and Information Services - Network Group (409) 845-0372 (work) Texas A&M University
From: trestrail@aol.com (Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF Date: 3 Jun 1994 16:26:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2so3ku$bf2@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2snbrt$oh9@proffa.cc.tut.fi> In article <2snbrt$oh9@proffa.cc.tut.fi>, albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi) writes: >I'm having difficulties in installing NeXTstep 3.2 (intel) using >Adaptec's 1542CF and 2 GB Seagate Barracuda. Here's what I've tried >this far: > >1. I revised the adaptec device driver (ftp.next.com: >/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/3.2_Drivers/Adaptec_154x...) and installed it >on a floppy so that I could install it to harddisk during NeXTstep >installation (in the beginning of installation NeXTstep asks if the user >wants to install additional device drivers). Everything went fine until >the system reboots to continue the installation from hd instead of the >floppy. When the screen with NeXT's gray bar on the top appears, the >screen gets full of error messages: >threath: waitForInterrupt: -735 > What you need to do is get a copy of NeXTAnswers # 1541, and follow the installation procedure outlined there. I had the same problem when I installed NS, and following the installation procedure in # 1541 worked perfectly. Regards, Jeff trestrail@aol.com
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Trackballs for NS/Intel? Date: 3 Jun 1994 21:31:10 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2so7eu$q81@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <1994Jun3.043114.25135@hot.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes > Anyone using a trackball with NS/Intel? Anyone know of a driver? > I have used the MicroSpeed Trackball successfully with NeXTSTEP. The same SerialMouse driver I used for the mouse worked with the trackball with no problems. -- Greg
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 16MB SIMMS on NDs? Date: 3 Jun 1994 20:47:21 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2so4sp$25d@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Jun3.180240.9034@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <1994Jun3.180240.9034@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James A. McGilvray) writes: > Hi, all, > > I need more memory for an ND board. I know 8MB SIMMS work; has anyone > tried 16MB SIMMS on an ND? > Alas, the 8 Mb double-sided 100ns 72 pin SIMMs are the limit. 8 of those will get you 64 Mb, the maximum that the ND memory controller groks. It seemed like a lot at the time.... (Please don't tell me about the literature saying it only handles 32 Mb. The literature is wrong.) Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM ---- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. In fact, it was probably produced by line noise.
From: alpine@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Mach32 PCI driver Message-ID: <1994Jun3.133545.20997@cc.usu.edu> Date: 3 Jun 94 13:35:45 MDT References: <1994Jun3.091457.11452@odin.diku.dk> Organization: Utah State University In article <1994Jun3.091457.11452@odin.diku.dk>, mdan@diku.dk (Michael Daldorph Nielsen) writes: > I am running NS/I 3.2 on a IBM P60/D. Using the ATI on board driver doesn't work at all > (screen flickers). > > Is there a driver available for the ATI Mach32 PCI? > > > Michael (mdan@diku.dk) The driver for the MACH 32 is available from us. It's one of the Talus drivers we market, with more on the way. With the 2 MB card, it can go up to 1120x832 @60 or 68 Hz, according to my spec sheet here. No complaints at all on this driver. E-mail us for info - educational pricing available! Thanks for the bandwidth - Dan Daniel L. Kramer Alpine Computing MicroAge alpine@cc.usu.edu (801)752-6688
From: stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu (Gary L.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF Date: 3 Jun 1994 22:27:18 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Medical Center Message-ID: <2soao6$i4m@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <2snbrt$oh9@proffa.cc.tut.fi> <2so3ku$bf2@search01.news.aol.com> Trestrail (trestrail@aol.com) wrote: : In article <2snbrt$oh9@proffa.cc.tut.fi>, albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi : (Ojala Pasi) writes: : >I'm having difficulties in installing NeXTstep 3.2 (intel) using : >Adaptec's 1542CF and 2 GB Seagate Barracuda. Here's what I've tried : >this far: : What you need to do is get a copy of NeXTAnswers # 1541, and follow : the installation : procedure outlined there. I had the same problem when I installed NS, : and following : the installation procedure in # 1541 worked perfectly. I had the same problems, same errors until I followed the nextansrs very carefully, now everything is fine.... theres a whole bunch of set up menus to set with the adaptec.... I swear by the nextanswers after than experience... good job NeXT, thanks! gary -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ stimpy@beavis.im.med.umich.edu no NeXTmail yet please Founder of the NeXTSTEP for Intel Processors HomeBrew mailing list to subscribe mail: maiser@mmg.im.med.umich.edu message text: sub nsi-homebrew <or> unsub nsi-homebrew a FAQ and archive/ftp site are in the works. ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 16MB SIMMS on NDs? Date: 3 Jun 1994 17:39:21 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2soifp$b7q@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <1994Jun3.180240.9034@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> James A. McGilvray (jim@philo.mcgill.ca) wrote: : Hi, all, : I need more memory for an ND board. I know 8MB SIMMS work; has anyone : tried 16MB SIMMS on an ND? Tried the 16s....they definitely do not work. 8s definitely do work. -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware #################################################################### From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 486 vs. Pentium vs. DSP speed (was: New Sound Board from Talus) Date: 4 Jun 1994 20:43:00 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2sqp0k$2n6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CquzL4.H13@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> David Hill writes > Incidentally, the architecture of any DSP plug-in needs to be carefully > thought out. One problem with the Turtle Beach Tahiti (IMHO) is that > the only on board memory is that within the DSP56001 chip itself. The > rest of the memory (32K) is PC memory mapped in, and only available over the > dreaded PC bus. That really makes dealing with anything much beyond > wavetable synthesis real slooooo...ow. > > Anyone got any comments on that? > I don't know about the Tahiti but I know something about the Multisound. In the MultiSound the memory mapped memory is in fact on board (in the card itself). It is memory mapped in the sense that the PC processor can get at it through the PC bus and thus do fast (?) transfers of information. The tradeoff is that the memory is accessed from the DSP itself using 3 wait state cycles... -- Fernando nando@ccrma.stanford.edu > david > --------- > > -- > david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more > voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. > nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Cheapest Laptop? Date: 5 Jun 1994 00:52:48 GMT Organization: Comp. Sci. Ctr., Univ. of MD, College Park, MD 20742 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2sr7l0$b7p@umd5.umd.edu> References: <2sqbeq$3ko@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Paul R. Tognato-Haddad (pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote: : What's the cheapest laptop that is able to run NEXTSTEP FIP? : The Versa's are way too expensive, and I don't think I even want : to know how much one of those (Sun) PowerLite's cost. That all depends on what kind of performance you're willing to put up with. A laptop with a 486SL/25 (not SX), 12mb of RAM, mono display, 120mb hard drive could be purchased for around $1900. But that's *really* slow. Almost all laptops have no L2 cache, so memory access is awful. Add to that HD's that have 17+ms access times and non-local bus graphics, it'll crawl (but that's completely subjective). The $2k price is for laptops from "off" brands. Moving to, say, a 486DX2/50, 20mb of RAM, local bus mono display, and 340mb HD, you'll get respectable speed for $2500. It gets *really* expensive with color. A simple dual scan color display adds $500+ to the price, and active matrix color is easily a $1500 option. Of course, the more memory the better, and the prices above don't include accessories like extra $170 NiMH batteries, $50 power adapters, etc. that are needed for the real road warrior. Going to a name brand adds a bunch more money, but for many people it's worth it. Why? A laptop gets beat up much more than a desktop machine, so it's important to be able to get decent service no matter where you are, and 6 months to years down the road, it's nice to know that the company will probably still be around. Of course, there are lots of warts with trying to get NEXTSTEP to run on a laptop. 640x480 is really cramped. NEXTSTEP doesn't support any of the common laptop video chips, even the VL bus ones, so you can't even get 1024x768 at 2 bit on an external monitor. NEXTSTEP needs virtual memory, and even the fast 2.5" hard drives are much slower than their desktop brethren. No L2 cache, the machine even with equivalent CPU horsepower, will seem 10-20% slower than a desktop machine. No 16 bit color support. Given all of that, there does seem to be some good news: Many laptops now have 8 bit sound in/out so it doesn't have to be mute (use the NEXTSTEP MSW or free SoundBlaster driver) Many are built on the WD Rocketchip VL bus video chip - which looks like it'll support 16 bit color even though it's not BIOS supported. NEXTSTEP doesn't use the BIOS anyways, and a WD tech rep is supposed to get back to me for the full details. Plus, it's VESA Local bus. This means we might see color NEXTSTEP laptops soon. Some are actually putting in L2 cache! Some are expandable to 32mb or 40mb of RAM! 540mb hard drives are available, so disk space isn't that big of a concern. 486DX4 75mhz & 100mhz CPU's give a significant punch in horsepower. NiMH batteries allow for much longer operation, especially since NEXTSTEP doesn't like a lot of the power saving stuff (it takes a Versa/33 a few minutes to recover from a hard drive spin-down). Good luck! .Bill Chin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: IDE Installion Information Message-ID: <1994Jun4.235443.4058@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 23:54:43 GMT I have worked with IDE drives a little. But, all the NEXTSTEP systems on which I have worked used SCSI. I queried NEXT Answers, but did not readily see what I needed. Can anyone point me to a document, or information on the best way to install and get NEXTSTEP up on a system with and IDE drive. I have SCSI equipment also. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: petera@orme.demon.co.uk (Peter Adams) Subject: [Intel] Horizon VGA display problems Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 10:10:51 +0000 Message-ID: <770811051snz@orme.demon.co.uk> Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk STB Horizon VGA card (ISA model) on NS 3.1/FIP. I can't get this video card to work at 1024x768. The Hardware Compatibility guide says it should. There seem to be two problems. ONE: the monitor doesn't sync up properly. There are scan lines and colour bars across the screen image. BUT the monitor will work at 1024x768 (72Hz NI) with this card, when I run the DOS checkout utility that comes with the card. TWO: the cursor rectangle smears the screen, ie. it is not compositing correctly onto the underlying image. I'd be grateful for any pointers on how to solve these problems. I'd be happy to work at 800x600! I'm sorry if this has been dealt with in the past. I'm new to the Net FRaY. Thanks, -- Peter Adams Internet: petera@orme.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: steve@xbrcom.qc.ca (Steve Audy) Subject: Problem with hardware handshake on the 68040! Message-ID: <Q6EPBLGC@math.fu-berlin.de> Keywords: slip modem cufa Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: XBR Communications Inc. Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 12:25:28 GMT Hi, I am trying to setup a NeXT Station for a SLIP connexion on the Internet at 19.2K. I installed the SLIP package from TransSys (19920904) and configure it to dialout on the same modem and cable I was using with Versaterm SLIP on the Macintosh. The modem is a 'Practical Modem 9600SA' and the cable supports hardware handshake (on the Macintosh, anyway). This is the setup string I send to the modem: ATE0&C1W1. Here's my problem: When I send a file larger than 200K the connection will drop, and the system will report that the network is down. (Overflow problem??) I tried using 'cufa' instead of 'cua' but the modem lights would never flash. (I get the error message 'Unable to get modem's attention'). I read somewhere that to use cufa I need to lock the DTE speed to 19200 but I just can't figure out how to do this. What am I doing wrong? Why is the modem not working with cufa? PS: I tried SupraFaxModemV.32, HayesOptima9600 and Zoom14.4 but with the same results. Thanks in advance for any help! Steve Audy steve@xbrcom.qc.ca
#################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: 486 vs. Pentium vs. DSP speed (was: New Sound Board from Talus) Message-ID: <Cqwqp7.v0@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <CquzL4.H13@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <2sqp0k$2n6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 04:48:42 GMT In article <2sqp0k$2n6@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> nando@ccrma.stanford.edu writes: >David Hill writes >> Incidentally, the architecture of any DSP plug-in needs to be carefully >> thought out. One problem with the Turtle Beach Tahiti (IMHO) is that >> the only on board memory is that within the DSP56001 chip itself. The >> rest of the memory (32K) is PC memory mapped in, and only available over >the >> dreaded PC bus. That really makes dealing with anything much beyond >> wavetable synthesis real slooooo...ow. >> >> Anyone got any comments on that? >> > >I don't know about the Tahiti but I know something about the Multisound. >In the MultiSound the memory mapped memory is in fact on board (in the >card itself). It is memory mapped in the sense that the PC processor can >get at it through the PC bus and thus do fast (?) transfers of >information. The tradeoff is that the memory is accessed from the DSP >itself using 3 wait state cycles... > >-- Fernando >nando@ccrma.stanford.edu > >> david >> --------- >> >> -- >> david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more >> voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than >knowledge. >> nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein) Red face time. I was simply wrong. The Tahiti has got 32K of 24-bit 70 nanosecond SRam, right on the board. I apologise for confusing everyone else as well as myself, especially since one reason I got interested in the board was because it seemed well endowed. I simply misread the manual I finally obtained a day or two ago. I certainly withdraw my earlier remarks. david :#) ------------ -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <1994Jun5.144324.8099@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <CqrBzG.I0D@utstat.toronto.edu> <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 14:43:24 GMT In article <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes: > >That's a good point. I'd forgotten that there's a charge for drivers! Well, >clearly it then makes no sense for them to develop a driver for an inexpensive >sound card. Perhaps someone else will. The idea of paying for drivers >doesn't feel right ... Well, if you're putting together a $2k system, then yes, the charge for drivers is significant. If you're someone like me, and you're putting together a killer config (DX4/100,32,1.0gig) and *performance* is the issue, then I don't mind adding a couple hundred bucks to my $7000 price tag. The 2% increase in price is more than offset by the ability of the drivers (in this case, PCI SCSI and video) to leverage the performance of the system. I'm happy to spend the money on the drivers (especially, since if I didn't pay for them, they wouldn't exist) if they give me something better than EISA/ISA performance. So, I can spend $7200 for a system that screams, or $7000 for a system that only shouts. The choice is easy. - db -- <Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve <It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
From: bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IDE Installion Information Date: 5 Jun 1994 18:11:06 GMT Organization: Comp. Sci. Ctr., Univ. of MD, College Park, MD 20742 Message-ID: <2st4fq$cl1@umd5.umd.edu> References: <1994Jun4.235443.4058@weston.com> Wes Spears (jspears@weston.com) wrote: : I have worked with IDE drives a little. But, all the NEXTSTEP systems on : which I have worked used SCSI. I queried NEXT Answers, but did not : readily see what I needed. : Can anyone point me to a document, or information on the best way to : install and get NEXTSTEP up on a system with and IDE drive. I have SCSI : equipment also. It just works! :-) NOT! First, I would say, *don't* use IDE. Second, *don't* use IDE. If you insist: You must have your CMOS drive settings correct - refer to the manual that came with your drive. If your came with the system configured, and you don't have a manual for the drive, make sure to copy down the drive settings! The NEXTSTEP part of things isn't that hard - you have to realize that if you have an IDE hard drive, you can't boot of SCSI w/o some band-aids (boot from IDE or floppy first, complete boot on SCSI). Otherwise, just tell the NEXTSTEP installation to install on the IDE hard drive. It's pretty much the same as SCSI. Just for reference, the device name is hdXa instead of sdXa where X is the drive number (in sequential order). With that said, I've discovered that NEXTSTEP hates the Maxtor 540 IDE; a Quantum 540 works just fine, and the Maxtor worked just fine under DOS/Windows (shudder). Under NS, the Maxtor had lots of read/write problems and ended up aborting the installation. Good luck! .Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: ATI Mach32 PCI driver#################################################################### #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus In-Reply-To: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca's message of Sun, 5 Jun 1994 14:43:24 GMT To: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun5181234@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <CqrBzG.I0D@utstat.toronto.edu> <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> <1994Jun5.144324.8099@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:12:34 GMT In article <1994Jun5.144324.8099@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: Well, if you're putting together a $2k system, then yes, the charge for drivers is significant. If you're someone like me, and you're putting together a killer config (DX4/100,32,1.0gig) and *performance* is the issue, then I don't mind adding a couple hundred bucks to my $7000 price tag. Forgive me, but if you are willing to spend $7k, _why_in_the_world_ are you buying a DX4/100 ? A $2k 60 MHz Pentium will beat it at all processor bound tasks and for $7k you can get an excellent 90 or 100 MHz Pentium system. Not that the DX4/100 doesn't have a niche, but it is somewhere between mid-end and low-end systems, not at the top. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ugubser@avalon.unizh.ch (gubser urs) Subject: Power on 030 Cube? Message-ID: <1994Jun5.230009.1442@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 23:00:09 GMT How can i power on an old 030 cube without monitor/keyboard? I know that this has already been on usenet but i could\nt find it in the faq. - Urs (ugubser@anduin.subculture.imp.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <1994Jun5.235604.309@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> <1994Jun5.144324.8099@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <CEDMAN.94Jun5181234@capitalist.princeton.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 23:56:04 GMT In article <CEDMAN.94Jun5181234@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes: >In article <1994Jun5.144324.8099@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: > Well, if you're putting together a $2k system, then yes, the > charge for drivers is significant. If you're someone like me, > and you're putting together a killer config (DX4/100,32,1.0gig) > and *performance* is the issue, then I don't mind adding > a couple hundred bucks to my $7000 price tag. > >Forgive me, but if you are willing to spend $7k, _why_in_the_world_ >are you buying a DX4/100 ? A $2k 60 MHz Pentium will beat it at all >processor bound tasks and for $7k you can get an excellent 90 or 100 >MHz Pentium system. Not that the DX4/100 doesn't have a niche, but it >is somewhere between mid-end and low-end systems, not at the top. Sorry... I should have specified that it was in Canadian dollars (so divide 7k by 1.4 == 5k). The Dell OmniPlex/90 that I wanted came out to $10k Canadian, and that's a little to high for me, for a PC. The low CDN dollar is the reason... anyway, I saved about $2k and went with the Dell OmniPlex/486/100 which comes close to the P60 in performance, but still has on-board PCI SCSI and Video, which were what I was referring to when I said "performance", especially when I was referring to the PCI drivers that enable me to run this config. As far as I know, I'll be the first to try out the OmniPlex 486/100 with NEXTSTEP, since Dell just added it on Friday. I'll do the appropriate benchmarks and post if anyone is interested... - db -- <Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve <It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: New Quantum 525 woes Message-ID: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 20:59:49 GMT I have installed a new quantum 525 from APS tech and it seem to format and accept the NS3.2. However when I installed some packages from the cd or the developer cd, they will install or I will get an error message like this: Directory checksum error (5 != 8571). I run fsck in single user mode, as the manual says, but fsck claims there is nothing wrong. If I try to install the package again, it may or may not install, but if it fails, it always gives the directory checksum error with some value. I tried to reformat, and I tried using fdformat. (fdformat claimed it would allow different sized blocks but it always failed. Please help! HN
From: damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TransSys SLIP Connect Problem Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:45:16 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <damonc.4.2DF27FAB@hookup.net> I have been able to install TransSys PNI SLIP/CSLIP, but once connected, not much happens (transcript of session below). Bascially, when I try ftp/telnet/ping/etc, the modem lights flash a little (VERY little), and after about 3 minutes, I get "host not found" in the terminal window. Using Intel box with ZyXEL U-1496E (external) modem. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated (been at this for almost a week)... . . . June 5 20:24:56 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: Trying to call 619-6609 (unix) June 5 20:24:56 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: dialer: Start of ZyXEL dialing script, dialing 619-6609 June 5 20:24:58 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Modem firmware version is '25355 U1496E V 6.01 M' June 5 20:25:00 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Dialing (DTMF) 619-6609.... June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Connected: CONNECT 38400/V32b 14400/V42b June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: Dialer succeded to 619-6609 June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: source /etc/pni/config/login-unix.tcl June 5 20:25:45 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Start generic UNIX login script June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: Entering SLIP mode June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: link connected June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: TTY tty: started June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: LINK tty connected June 5 20:25:52 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: PNI pni: runt packet 297276 bytes dropped June 5 20:27:10 localhost pnid-pni0[265]: PNI pni: runt packet 297276 bytes dropp####################################################################
#################################################################### #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Message-ID: <1994Jun6.030158.20735@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY References: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> <2su1kn$emp@news.delphi.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 03:01:58 GMT >>I have installed a new quantum 525 from APS tech and it seem to >>format and accept the NS3.2. However when I installed some packages >>from the cd or the developer cd, they will install or I will get >>an error message like this: Directory checksum error (5 != 8571). >[deleted] >>I tried to reformat, and I tried using fdformat. (fdformat claimed >>it would allow different sized blocks but it always failed. >If you want to reformat your SCSI disk, use the sdform supplied with >NS, or get sdformat off the ftp archives (sdformat supports block sizes >of 512, 1024, & 2048 bytes - sdform only 512). fdformat is for floppies. Whoops, my fault, I meant I used sdformat. (I had just formatted a floppy before I posted :-) I still have the trouble. I have reformatted the drive with both programs and have had no luck. Any help would be great. Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqyLxp.6Lr@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> <1994Jun5.144324.8099@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 05:01:01 GMT In article <1994Jun5.144324.8099@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: [ ] >>That's a good point. I'd forgotten that there's a charge for drivers! Well, >>clearly it then makes no sense for them to develop a driver for an inexpensive >>sound card. Perhaps someone else will. The idea of paying for drivers >>doesn't feel right ... > >Well, if you're putting together a $2k system, then yes, the >charge for drivers is significant. If you're someone like me, >and you're putting together a killer config (DX4/100,32,1.0gig) >and *performance* is the issue, then I don't mind adding >a couple hundred bucks to my $7000 price tag. The 2% increase in >price is more than offset by the ability of the drivers >(in this case, PCI SCSI and video) to leverage the performance >of the system. I'm happy to spend the money on the drivers >(especially, since if I didn't pay for them, they wouldn't >exist) if they give me something better than EISA/ISA >performance. So, I can spend $7200 for a system that screams, >or $7000 for a system that only shouts. The choice is easy. True, but we were talking about sound cards! The whole driver issue is a bit strange. The future for me is in the $2k range ($3k depending on RAM and monitor). DX/4 100's will quickly be available at that price point. I guess I just can't get used to paying as much, or close, for a driver as for the original product. In fact, I the more I think about it the less I like the idea of paying for a basic driver. Enhanced yes, but basic, no way. I think this is part of a bigger issue which is best (worst) left to .advocacy. But I do wish that NeXT would support at least the SB. It's not as though voice recording demand studio quality. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <CqyM9p.6tG@utstat.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> <1994Jun4.024621.889@talus.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 05:08:13 GMT In article <1994Jun4.024621.889@talus.com> steve@talus.com writes: [ ] >> In article <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance >A. Drosehn) writes: >> >> >One thing to remember in the context of Talus drivers is that >> >Talus itself isn't in this for charity. I suspect they want >> >to write a driver that they can sell. If you're shooting for >> >some $100 sound card, then they're going to have sell the >> >driver for next to nothing or everyone will cry "foul". > >Hmmm...this is a tough one. Probably all of us that develop for NS feel >that this is a charity (at least NeXT thinks it should be :-)) I >certainly hope that no one thinks that we're getting rich, or even >breaking even, writing NS drivers. We've been writing drivers to support >this community and, who knows, it may someday pay off. We've sure made >some good friends (an apparently some enemies) along the way....that's >life I guess. > >We've actually come up with a unique formula that will allow us to do >drivers for inexpensive cards, so doing a driver for a $100 sound card is >definitely not out of the question. We'll explain this one later, but it >WILL make sense to you and we hope that you'll appreciate the extent to >which we've gone to bring you great drivers without gouging anyone for >their decision to choose NS. > >Steve Sarich III >President >Talus Imaging >steve@talus.com Damn, it's nice to read a message like this one. If only there were more people like this out there. It does remind me of the older days before NeXT went wild with the MCA thing ( I'm not being critical of the MCA approach to saving a system or helping people solve problems in the business world. I just think there is more to life and computing and the emphasis has gone to far in the MCA direction- small companies, individual, small teams, etc...bring about innovation and not decisions by committees. If one needs to be the head of a large corporation before going to lunch with Jobs then it's all over ...NEXTSTEP would not survive the departure of some of the wacky and creative types that have gravitated to it. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Message-ID: <1994Jun6.045156.28808@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 04:51:56 GMT In article <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) writes: > I have installed a new quantum 525 from APS tech and it seem to > format and accept the NS3.2. However when I installed some packages > from the cd or the developer cd, they will install or I will get > an error message like this: Directory checksum error (5 != 8571). > > I run fsck in single user mode, as the manual says, but fsck claims > there is nothing wrong. If I try to install the package again, it > may or may not install, but if it fails, it always gives the > directory checksum error with some value. > > I tried to reformat, and I tried using fdformat. (fdformat claimed > it would allow different sized blocks but it always failed. > > Please help! > > HN Are you sure it's a problem with your harddrive? The message seems to be suspiciously similar to what I get when I try to untar a corrupted TAR file. To verify this, try to uncompress and untar the package manually from the shell and see what happens. (May it be that the package got corrupted?) -- Piotr (Peter) Twarecki, M.Eng. B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NeXT Certified System and Driver Policy Date: 6 Jun 94 08:16:21 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Message-ID: <next2.770890581@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <2sos61$fod@digifix.digifix.com> Darren_Smith@NeXT.COM (Darren Smith) writes: >In addition to requiring source code, NeXT also has stringent >quality guidelines for third party drivers . These requirements >include the use of and adherence to DriverKit methodology, easily >maintainable code, passing of NeXT engineering code walk-through >and engineering test, and a warranty from the developer to fix >problems found in the driver for 6 months after the driver is >generally available, etc. The third party driver goes through the >same Software Quality Assurance to which NeXT internal drivers are >subjected. This insures that NeXT customers are getting the >highest quality drivers, whether they are developed by NeXT or by >a third party. I can understand NeXT's policy to get their hands on the source code of any certified driver. I can also understand their stringent quality guidelines. But I cannot understand at all why the original NeXT serial driver for NS/I 3.2 could get released under these circumstances of very high demands to the driver quality. Any serious modem usage at serial speeds of 19200 bps or more is impossible with this driver, due to its massive loss of characters. Is this a consequence of the DriverKit methodology? Any comments on this? Markus. -- Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Who's bought a Gekko already? Message-ID: <1994Jun6.081830.6579@urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 08:18:30 GMT Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System) References: <ROBERT.94Jun2235223@steffi.demon.co.uk> Organization: Institut fuer Informatik In article <ROBERT.94Jun2235223@steffi.demon.co.uk> writes: > So Who's bought on already? > -- > "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" > (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) > (ASCII for text only messages) We've bought a 712/60. I too will have both NEXTSTEP and HPUX. I hope to be able to get my hands on the beta-release of NEXTSTEP soon. -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: martin@dragon.in-berlin.de (Martin Vetter) Subject: FAQ: Scanners, Tablets Message-ID: <Cqywtw.8w@dragon.in-berlin.de> Summary: faq about scanners and graphik tablets Keywords: faq scanner tablet Organization: Private NeXT Site (Berlin, Germany) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 08:56:20 GMT Hello, I'm searching for informations about scanners and tablets which can be used together with a NeXTstation. So I want to ask you: Scanners: o Which scanner do you use? o Have you used other scanners? o Which software do you use with your scanner? o Which other scanners does the software support? Tablets: o Which tablet do you use? o Is it pressure sensitive? o Which software do you use with your tablet? o Does the software understand the pressure information? Misc: o If this is already a FAQ, where is it? o Can you excuse my poor English ;-) Every information is greatly appreciated 8^) If there are many answers, I will post a summary. Thank you very much, Martin _________________ __ __ _________________________________________ / /\/ /\ ____ MARTIN VETTER / / \/ \/ / / PGP2 martin@dragon.in-berlin.de / / /\ /\/ / / EMAIL mv@cs.tu-berlin.de NeXTmail ok /_/_/\_\/\ / / VOICE (+49-30) 361-13-94 _______________________ \/_/ _____________________________________
From: michi@cube (Michele Giardini) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS/FIP - 3Com Twisted Pair possible? Date: 6 Jun 1994 10:37:50 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <2suu9u$7lq@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it> References: <2ssife$lje@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> bm10009@cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley) writes: : Hi. A friend of mine is having some problems using his 3com ethernet card : on our twisted-pair network under NS/FIP 3.2. After prodding around a bit : we discovered that the card has small buffers and so we know that for NFS : to work we need to reduce the standard buffer size from 8192 to 1024 in : NFSManager.app. : We have tried this but to no avail. We then noticed that we were getting : random network related failings - eg the machine periodically wouldn't : respond to 'ping'. We don't suspect a hardware fault since the card works : fine under DOS/Windows. Hi, I've got the same problem, and I think is related to the hardware on which you have installed the 3Com. I mean, I've a clone PC DX2 66 (ISA ), and my 3COM used to work, but it's not reliable. All the net processes are really slooow, and I notice frequent timeouts. I've tried the card on another PC, and it works fine. I've tried different configurations, with no results. And yes, it works fine under DOS/Windows, but not in NEXTSTEP. : It was at this point that we came across the 3com driver notes which claim : that twisted-pair isn't supported on the card! (I was under the impression : that the actual connection type -thin/thick/tp- wouldn't make any : difference from the drivers' point of view). We were even more surprised : since the card _has_ worked sporadically - eg we have had successful : -NXHost, and ftp connections working (but unreliably). : : Can anyone shed any light on this issue? Are we fighting a lost battle : here or are we doing something wrong? My card was configured to work with BNC connections, but I think the problem is not (only) there. After two days with a bad net connection, I've switched to an Intel card, and I've to say that maybe it's the best Ethernet board I've tried under NS. I've some problems with it just in these days, but they're not related to NS (see my post in this newsgroup). : Thanks for any pointers, : : Ben. : -- : ______________________________________________________________________ : Ben Moseley bm10009@cus.cam.ac.uk ** NeXTmail OK ** : "To drop is human, to juggle divine." : ______________________________________________________________________ Ciao Michele -- Giardini Michele - Computer Science Department State University of Milan - Coordinator of The Italian NEXTSTEP User Group Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006266 Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
From: max@deneb.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Maximilian Hantsch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: multiserial ports (white hw) Date: 6 Jun 1994 14:59:03 GMT Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <2svdjn$bsp@email.tuwien.ac.at> I am looking for a multiserial card for intel hw with proper drivers for NeXTStep. The two supported serial ports are just too few. What manufacturers out there offer such cards with NeXTStep support? Maximilian Hantsch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rsb2b@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Ralph S. Buckley) Subject: Next-CD-ROM unit QUESTION--please..... Message-ID: <CqzAHD.11u@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: uva Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:51:13 GMT I just picked up a NeXT CDROM unit. I don't have a cable yet. Questions: 1. Where do I get a cable for the unit to hook up to my NeXTSTATION? 2. How do I use the machine to hook it up to a MAC or IBM/PC? Answers to these questions would be most appreciated! Ralph -- ______________________ Ralph Buckley University of Virginia
From: sav3@ciao.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 040 Cube to 10BaseT Date: 6 Jun 1994 15:53:31 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <2svgpr$4hi@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> ****************************************************************************** "it's not music if no one wants to listen to it" Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, sav3@cunixa.columbia.edu ******************************************************************************
From: sav3@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 040 Cube to 10BaseT Date: 6 Jun 1994 17:53:14 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <2svnqa$bj8@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <2svgpr$4hi@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Did the 040 cubes come with built in 10BaseT ethernet? I just bought one and am wondering if I need to buy an adapter. Also, what kind of adapter would I need for thinnet to 10BaseT? The machine I bought was a newer 040 cube, not an upgraded 030. Thanks ****************************************************************************** "it's not music if no one wants to listen to it" Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, sav3@cunixa.columbia.edu ******************************************************************************
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical problem Date: 6 Jun 1994 18:34:29 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Message-ID: <2svq7l$p2g@news.tamu.edu> I think that my optical drive just died. I can't mount either of my disks; the drive spins, beeps a couple of times, then ejects the disk. These messages are for different disks - can anyone help me to figure out what is going on? The FAQs don't seem to say anything about this problem. Jun 3 16:39:57 snaefell mach: od0?: write failed (ECC) block 246880 phys block 246880 (19579:0:0) Jun 4 16:41:41 snaefell mach: od0a: read failed (bitmap bad but no alternate found!) block 8 phys block 1047 (4214:0:7) Thanks! -- Colin Allen, Assistant Professor, Philosophy Research Associate, Center for Biotechnology Policy and Ethics Texas A&M University, College Station, TX 77843-4355, USA VOICE:(409)845-3606; FAX:(409)847-9372; EMAIL:Colin.Allen@tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Message-ID: <1994Jun6.163458.28199@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY References: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> <1994Jun6.045156.28808@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 16:34:58 GMT >Are you sure it's a problem with your harddrive? The message seems to be >suspiciously similar to what I get when I try to untar a corrupted TAR >file. To verify this, try to uncompress and untar the package manually >from the shell and see what happens. (May it be that the package got >corrupted?) It's funny, I thought of that too, but this is a cd rom and it has the confusing property of failing, but working after a reboot or two. This makes me think it is the Hard Drive, but I am open to other possiblities. Ideas?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Message-ID: <espritCqzq95.910@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> <1994Jun6.045156.28808@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:31:53 GMT In article <1994Jun6.045156.28808@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA writes: >In article <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E >Noel) writes: >> I have installed a new quantum 525 from APS tech and it seem to >> format and accept the NS3.2. However when I installed some packages >> from the cd or the developer cd, they will install or I will get >> an error message like this: Directory checksum error (5 != 8571). >> >> I run fsck in single user mode, as the manual says, but fsck claims >> there is nothing wrong. If I try to install the ####################################################################
#################################################################### From: jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu (Jonathan D Gardner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color Slab SCSI Date: 7 Jun 1994 05:56:20 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <2t1264$5mu@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am thinking about replacing the 400meg Hard Drive in my NeXT color slab. I am wondering what the exact configuration of the NeXT SCSI is. Is it SCSI-2 compliant? I have a Maxtor MXT-540SL which is a 540meg SCSI2 drive, has anyone tryed this on a NeXT color station? Thanks for the help. jgardne3@mason1.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: pim@barany.med.rug.nl (Pim van Dijk) Subject: noiseless NeXTSTEP computer? Sender: usenet@risc1.rug.nl Message-ID: <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:42:43 GMT Organization: Rekencentrum der Rijksuniversiteit Groningen Keywords: no fan no harddisk Hi, Are there noiseless computersystems available which can run NeXTSTEP? Noiseless means: a normal hearing person in a silent room should not be able to hear the equipment. That means not having a fan or a harddisk. I am thinking of something like an X-window terminal, but I don't want to run X-windows. Background: My application is performing hearing tests in a hospital environment. For these tests, the investigator and the patient sit in a sound isolated room. The investigator should be able to control equipment (e.g. a computer) from within the room. Any equipment within the room must be 'absolutely' noiseless. Pim van Dijk P.van.Dijk@med.rug.nl
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Logitec SoundMan Date: 7 Jun 1994 09:55:04 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2t1g5o$gcf@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <CqvwGo.Izw@cuug.ab.ca> Tim Wasko (twasko@cuug.ab.ca) wrote: : Is the Logitec SoundMan compatible with NS/I? I heard it works with the : Microsoft Sound System driver? It's compatible with the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 (in fact, it's a PAS16 without the SCSI part), and it runs with the PAS16 driver. It has the same problems as the PAS16, i.e. it won't really work on an ISA or VLB/ISA system when you have another busmastering card (e.g. the AHA 1542 SCSI adapter). I.e. SoundMan runs fine with PAS16 driver on an EISA/VL board with ATI GUP and AHA 1542... Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need recomendation for COLOR printer Date: 7 Jun 1994 11:07:48 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t1ke4$k70@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> We would like to purchase a color laser printer for our NeXT's. Anyone have any recommendations? Hell, while I'm at it, we need to buy more ram for our server, and a larger hardrive. If you've got any advice on that, let me know. (all of them are black 040 slab's). -- ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu or root@tap.colum.fnet.org : :Call The Atomic Playground BBS 614-297-7031 24/96/14.4/16.8/21.6/28.8k DS HST: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) Subject: Write protected maxtor Message-ID: <1994Jun7.114505.15606@FreemanSoft.com> Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 11:45:05 GMT I've seen the following problem before, but can't remember how it is caused. I have an old 660 meg maxtor that was just put in an external case. The NeXT cube sees the maxtor fine but claims that it is write protected. The drive came out of of a cube and has been put into the external enclosure. Maybe the address block for the switch is on wrong? Has anyone else seen this odd behavior before? Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: MAXTOR XT-8760S Rev B3C as sd1 at sc0 target 5 lun 0 Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: Disk Label: Disk Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: Disk Capacity 660MB, Device Block 1024 bytes Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: Disk is Write Protected Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 Jun 6 9:46:13 cube mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 -- Joe Freeman FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company. Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail) Voice: 919.783.7033
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP is needed on disconnecting the internal hard disk in a CUBE Date: 7 Jun 1994 13:22:11 GMT Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University Sender: Paul Nevai Message-ID: <2t1sa3$sij@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu How do I disconnect an internal hard disk in a CUBE? Is it sufficient to pull the plug or do I have to disconnect the SCSI connector from the motherboard too? If I just had to pull the plug then the reinstallation would be easier. Please advise me. Thanks. Take care...Paul Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office) Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: noiseless NeXTSTEP computer? Date: 7 Jun 1994 14:04:15 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t1uov$c84@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> In article <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> pim@barany.med.rug.nl (Pim van Dijk) writes: > Are there noiseless computersystems available which can run NeXTSTEP? > Noiseless means: a normal hearing person in a silent room should not be > able to hear the equipment. That means not having a fan or a harddisk. I You could always boot a NeXT over ethernet from a second NeXT in an adjacent room. This would avoid the need for a hard drive in your quiet room. As for not having a fan, you could take the top off of a NeXT slab and mount the slab vertically along the side of a desk. Run a long NeXT cube cable to the monitor. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: multiserial ports (white hw) Message-ID: <1994Jun7.084711.9538@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2svdjn$bsp@email.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:47:11 GMT In article <2svdjn$bsp@email.tuwien.ac.at> max@deneb.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Maximilian Hantsch) writes: > I am looking for a multiserial card for intel hw with proper drivers for > NeXTStep. The two supported serial ports are just too few. > > What manufacturers out there offer such cards with NeXTStep support? No one. You might try the Mux driver (from ftp.morningstar.com, I think), which should work with a Digiboard. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: lsean@VNET.IBM.COM Message-ID: <19940607.090955.115@almaden.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 11:08:32 EDT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC <-> NeXT connectivity I'm thinking about hooking up my PC w/ my blackbox, using the latter machine as a NFS server. Anybody recommends any kind of (presumably inexpensive) NFS software that runs smoothly with NeXT on the PC? How about connecting a Mac w/ a NeXT in the same topology? Is there any recommended Ethernet card for PC or Mac? Also, any suggestion for a communication software that supports fax, terminal emulation, and xmodem/kermit protocols? Thanks in advance, Holmes Liao
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1.3GB Optical Drive Date: 7 Jun 1994 16:10:54 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <2t266e$6at@news.iastate.edu> Fellow NeXT users: Today is my fifth day using NeXT computers and my boss has asked me to investigate the purchase of a 1.3GB optical drive to attach to our NeXT network. I am hoping that you, my learned colleagues, can assist me in my endeavors to find that which I have been sent out in search of. We want to install a 1.3GB optical drive which must be: (1) Compatible with NeXT computers and NextStep 3.1 and 3.2. (2) RELIABLE! My boss would pay more for a reliable drive. (3) Fast. We would prefer a fast reliable drive. (4) Inexpensive (i.e., least expensive fastest reliable drive available). If anyone has any suggestions or experience with 1.3GB optical drives, please do not hesitate to tell me what you know! Also, I would like to know what the useable life of the removable disks are. We would like to use the drive all day as removable storage for very large immaging files to reduce the strain on our server hard drives and to back up the systems at night. We could copy the entire contents of each 1GB hard drive onto each removable (backup) disk and copy up to four 400MB harddrives to separate sub-directories on another removable disk. How long can I expect a 1.3GB optical disk to last (error free) if we use it for backup every day? Note: I will still create 1.3GB DAT backups for long-term storage, but prefer the direct access of the removable optical disk for recoverying large files or a small number of damaged files. Are all 1.3GB drives capable of reading and writing 650MB disks? Is this an important feature? Which drives will attach nicely to a Pentium machine when we start purchasing new and faster hardware in the future? The street prices for 1.3GB drives seems to be $3,000 to $4,000, while the price of removable 1.3GB optical disks seems to be about $125 to $300. Which drives are better? Which disks are better? Thank you very much for any help that any of you may be able to provide this "greenhorn". Rod Ragner, rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu (NeXTmail accepted) stryder@iastate.edu (non-nextmail )
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need recomendation for COLOR printer Date: 7 Jun 1994 15:01:10 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t223m$1ub@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <2t1ke4$k70@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <2t1ke4$k70@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) writes: > We would like to purchase a color laser printer for our NeXT's. > Anyone have any recommendations? > The best choice is the QMS ColorScript 1000. Its a 300 dpi Color Laser. In a few days you can see the ColorScript Magic wich is a true 600 dpi Color Laser. Connect them via Ethernet to black, white or HP machines. Use QMSprint from iXpoint as a driver. Perhaps you want to see all of it at the EXPO. Gerd ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Please help with NEC CD-ROM and Station Date: 7 Jun 94 19:18:09 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.771016689@budlight> References: <2skck6$cg1@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Robert Elder) writes: >I purchaced one of the older (dated Oct '92) NEC Intersect double speed CD-ROM >drives and can not get it to work. My station recognizes the CD-ROM drive and >then on the next line of the boot up messages it says something like: >Waiting for sd1 to become ready >............. >The LED on the drive blinks every second or so. Probably the wrong SCSI id. Set the CDROM SCSI id to 6, this is some kind of "standard" setting for CDROM. It looks like the CDROM is on the same SCSI id as one of your harddisks. Or it could be the termination (less likely). Good luck, Chris -- "I ride a tandem with the random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: Re: noiseless NeXTSTEP computer? Message-ID: <1994Jun7.223155.13649@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University References: <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 22:31:55 GMT In article <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> pim@barany.med.rug.nl (Pim van Dijk) writes: > Hi, > > Are there noiseless computersystems available which can run NeXTSTEP? > Noiseless means: a normal hearing person in a silent room should not be > able to hear the equipment. That means not having a fan or a harddisk. I > am thinking of something like an X-window terminal, but I don't want to > run X-windows. > > Background: > My application is performing hearing tests in a hospital environment. For > these tests, the investigator and the patient sit in a sound isolated > room. The investigator should be able to control equipment (e.g. a > computer) from within the room. Any equipment within the room must be > 'absolutely' noiseless. > > Pim van Dijk > P.van.Dijk@med.rug.nl I guess the cube could be sitting in one room while the monitor, the keyboard and the mouse are in another. The 3 meter long cable should be sufficient to do that, and easy to isolate acoustically. Of course, my monitor is quiet, but there is a possibility of some coils generating high frequency sound... -- Piotr (Peter) Twarecki, M.Eng. B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: noiseless NeXTSTEP computer? Message-ID: <1994Jun8.011418.21396@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Keywords: no fan no harddisk Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:14:18 GMT In article <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> P.van.Dijk@med.rug.nl writes: >Hi, > >Are there noiseless computersystems available which can run NeXTSTEP? >Noiseless means: a normal hearing person in a silent room should not be >able to hear the equipment. That means not having a fan or a harddisk. I >am thinking of something like an X-window terminal, but I don't want to >run X-windows. > My NEC Versa makes almost no noise. If you can deal with NS on 640x480, in mono (or in color when someone releases a color driver), then this is an option. It's a laptop, so there's no fan or anything. The drive is really quiet, and most of what you hear is the keyboard. It's a lovely computer. - darcy -- <Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve <It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) Subject: Does any removeable 128 optical or Syquest drive work with Next Black? Message-ID: <1994Jun7.223828.9065@iitmax.iit.edu> Keywords: 128 opticals and syquest that work with NeXT Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 22:38:28 GMT I would like to get a removeable cartridge drive for my two Nexts and now (because I have Daydream), my two Macs. Does any 128 MO, say the APS or ClubMac work with NEXTSTEP? The same question for 270MB Syquests? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris Conley Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: daf@wts.com (David A. Fox) Subject: Need info on HP printer Message-ID: <1994Jun07.114953.22555@wts.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 11:49:53 EDT Organization: Wegmans Electronic Banking Services I am considering buying a HP560C Color Ink Jet printer it will support PostScript 2. Will this work with NS/FIP? What pitfalls are there? Thanks in advance Dave Fox
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rpe@netcom.com (Roy Eltham) Subject: Re: TITANIC NEXTSTEP SALE..Just $399..(or is that Gigantic?) Message-ID: <rpeCr2FqI.M52@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <2t02t2$34q@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> <Cr074v.8v@dsinc!flash> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 06:37:29 GMT flash!jon@myxa.com wrote: : In article <2t02t2$34q@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mahmud@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu : (Mahmud Haque) writes: : > This is a savings of _$336_ and you never have to leave home! If you : > feel like you'll go through withdrawls if you don't see Steve's : > keynote address, we'll be happy to send you our exagerated sales : > figures on this package :-)) : Dear GOD man, you know not what you do!! There'll be riots, carnage, raping, : pillaging, blood and guts and gore and veins in my teeth. : But worst of all... people might actually... <deep breath> ... : BUY IT!! : Oh, the humanity.... : -- : Jonathan W. Hendry tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu : "Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are : wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar" Edward R. Murrow : -- : Jonathan W. Hendry tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu : "Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are : wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar" Edward R. Murrow Someone might buy it, but it's never gonna be mainstream with a price like that. I can buy 10 games!! or at least 3-4 "applications" for my DOS PC for that price, why would I buy NEXTStep? (Well I personally would buy it, but what about Joe PC users?) -- ======================================================= = = = Roy P. Eltham --==OBFUSCATE==-- Creative Insights = = = = rpe@netcom.com Mynk Lynx Software Engineer = = = =======================================================
From: mahmud@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mahmud Haque) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TITANIC NEXTSTEP SALE..Just $399..(or is that Gigantic?) Date: 6 Jun 1994 21:02:26 GMT Organization: Talus Corporation, Houston,Tx Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t02t2$34q@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Keywords: NEXTSTEP/LaSTEXPO/TITANIC/$399 YES...the company NeXT loves to hate, brings you the sale you're going to LOVE! The TITANIC NEXTSTEP for Intel SALE BEGINS Saturday, June 4th! Well we've been listening to everyone tell us that they'd buy more copies of NEXTSTEP "if it were just cheaper". We're giving you a chance to put your money where your mouth is.....and you DON'T have to go to LaSTEXPO to get OUR deal! (THEIR DEAL....) If sign up for the developer sessions at EXPO.......... .. $995 you can buy a bundle of user and developer for.............$299 which means that you pay a total of.......................$1294 This is, of course, if you walk to San Francisco, not fly, don't eat or drink anything while you're there and sleep with some of the more "colorful" characters that populate the streets around Moscone Center. (OUR DEAL....) But...if you take us up on our limited time TITANIC NEXTSTEP sale, you can buy a brand new copy of 3.2 User with manuals for. .$399 or add a copy of 3.2 Developer for a mere..... .............$559 for a total of only.........................................$958! This is a savings of _$336_ and you never have to leave home! If you feel like you'll go through withdrawls if you don't see Steve's keynote address, we'll be happy to send you our exagerated sales figures on this package :-)) Yes....You can buy either the user or developer individually for the above prices, or buy both. Yes...All software is shrinkwrapped in it's original package and comes complete with the full warranty and a set of manuals. Yes...It qualifies for the same upgrades as other NS 3.2 packages. No...these are not educational copies or "demo" versions of 3.2, but complete commercial packages. (North American version) No....We didn't steal it, but at this price it's certainly a steal! This is offer is good only as long as supplies lasts. Limit...400 to a customer. We accept cashier's checks, money orders and all major credit cards. For ordering info call: (713)561-0700 or Fax:(713)561-5428. OR...send email requests to: titanic@talus.com Snail Mail To: 10602 Chapel Hill Drive, Houston, Texas 77099 --------------------------------------------------------------------- NEXTSTEP is the registered trademark of NeXT Computers, Inc. Intel is the registered trademark of Intel Corporation **Please remember...only 18 shopping days left till Expo!:-)) SORRY...no USER versions for "black" hardware available. --------------------------------------------------------------------- This is posted for Steve Sarich (Talus Corp.), he is having problem problem with his news feed. Please direct your inquiries to steve@talus.com. -- Mahmud Haque Internet: mahmud@bcm.tmc.edu Division of Neuroscience uucp: {uunet,shell,rice}!cephalo!mahmud Baylor College of Medicine Bitnet: mahmud%bcm.tmc.edu@CUNYVM Houston, Tx 77030 mahmud%bcm.tmc.edu@PSUVAX1
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Date: 6 Jun 1994 21:23:00 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2t043k$d5f@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <espritCqzq95.910@netcom.com> In article <espritCqzq95.910@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes: > In article <1994Jun6.045156.28808@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA writes: > >In article <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E > >Noel) writes: > >> I have installed a new quantum 525 from APS tech and it seem to > >> format and accept the NS3.2. However when I installed some packages > >> from the cd or the developer cd, they will install or I will get > >> an error message like this: Directory checksum error (5 != 8571). > I had a similar problem when I bought one of these drives. I didn't have > time to muck with it and replaced it with a Fujitsi 500 Meg. I posted > my troubles with the disk to the Net at that time and got no responses. > I have a Q525s, which has been running in a server machine (with lots of apps and stuff on it) for over a year now. I've never had any problem with it. My bet is with the suggestion that you have some other installation problem (like tar vs. gnutar). -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory --- Everything I say via this computer belongs to MIT. --- ---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: slxn8@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Message-ID: <1994Jun6.111537.21125@cc.usu.edu> Date: 6 Jun 94 11:15:37 MDT References: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> <2su1kn$emp@news.delphi.com> Organization: Utah State University In article <2su1kn$emp@news.delphi.com>, trestrai@news.delphi.com (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM) writes: > hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) writes: > >>I have installed a new quantum 525 from APS tech and it seem to >>format and accept the NS3.2. However when I installed some packages >>from the cd or the developer cd, they will install or I will get >>an error message like this: Directory checksum error (5 != 8571). > [deleted] >>I tried to reformat, and I tried using fdformat. (fdformat claimed >>it would allow different sized blocks but it always failed. When I was having these problems, it turned out it was my CD-ROM drive that was the culprit, not the SCSI HD. Try finding another CD-ROM drive...I ended up using my ol' Next one. My NEC 3xi wouldn't work, I had the same problems you describe above. Even if I copied the package onto the hard drive and then tried to install it wouldn't work. But it worked fine from the Next cd-rom drive. Very strange. John Zollinger slxn8@cc.usu.edu
From: guzyk@aol.com (Guzyk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good DAT drives, recommendations sought. Date: 6 Jun 1994 17:43:04 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2t0598$94c@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2nc77g$rcg@newsflash.mitre.org> IMHO, The APS SCSI DAT for Macintosh at $799 is the best DAT drive I've seen for Macintosh. It should work with NeXT but someone else will need to verify that for you. APS is at 1-800-677-3294
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: netcom.com!kira!davidjohn (David John Burrowes) Subject: Re: Watcom tablets advice sought Message-ID: <1994Jun4.153245.898@kira.net.netcom.com> Sender: davidjohn@kira.net.netcom.com Organization: No organization at this time. References: <6MAY199409155157@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 15:32:45 GMT In article <6MAY199409155157@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON) writes: > Hi. I have a 25Mhz, 040 NeXTcube running NS3.2. I'm thinking of getting a > Watcom tablet for drawing. If you have experiece with these, please e-mail > advice. What do they cost? Where? What software do they work/not work > with? How long a cord? Is it extendable? Etc. Etc. Etc. > Thanks! > Don McCollam > mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu This is a bit late, probably. Nevertheless, I have the 12x12 tablet. While I do appreciate it (it's easier on my wrists than a mouse, which I need (that is, I do'nt use it for graphical/artistic purposes as often as a mouse substitute)), I've noted two annoyances Under NS 3.x - The non-pressure pen will drift, on the screen, even if you hold the pen absolutely still on the tablet in the 'relative' mode. This doesn't happen in the other modes. - The pressure pen setting doesn't have the above ail, but requires a very hard press to get it to register a normal click, which makes me frequently miss what I'm clicking on...
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good DAT drives, recommendations sought. Date: 7 Jun 1994 01:49:33 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2t0jnd$t9i@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <2nc77g$rcg@newsflash.mitre.org> <2t0598$94c@search01.news.aol.com> guzyk@aol.com (Guzyk) writes: >IMHO, >The APS SCSI DAT for Macintosh at $799 is the best DAT drive I've >seen for Macintosh. It should work with NeXT but someone else will >need to verify that for you. >APS is at 1-800-677-3294 I'm under the impression that APS uses the Archive (now owned by Conner) Viper 2GB DAT mechanism. If so, it should work. In any case, I use an Archive Viper, bought from Dirt Cheap Drives (pick up Computer Shopper Magazine & see their ad there, or email me for info), with my black slab. It works fine. Royce Howland dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: flash!jon@myxa.com Subject: Re: TITANIC NEXTSTEP SALE..Just $399..(or is that Gigantic?) Message-ID: <Cr074v.8v@dsinc!flash> Sender: jon@dsinc!flash (Jonathan Hendry) Organization: Who Needs It? References: <2t02t2$34q@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 01:36:30 GMT In article <2t02t2$34q@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mahmud@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mahmud Haque) writes: > This is a savings of _$336_ and you never have to leave home! If you > feel like you'll go through withdrawls if you don't see Steve's > keynote address, we'll be happy to send you our exagerated sales > figures on this package :-)) Dear GOD man, you know not what you do!! There'll be riots, carnage, raping, pillaging, blood and guts and gore and veins in my teeth. But worst of all... people might actually... <deep breath> ... BUY IT!! Oh, the humanity.... -- Jonathan W. Hendry tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu "Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar" Edward R. Murrow -- Jonathan W. Hendry tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu "Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar" Edward R. Murrow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Message-ID: <1994Jun7.002917.12705@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY References: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> <2su1kn$emp@news.delphi.com> <1994Jun6.111537.21125@cc.usu.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 00:29:17 GMT It turns out it was the cd drive. I had originally installed 3.2 on a 300 meg drive with a NEC73 drive and it worked fine. I borrowed a diff. NEC73 from someone else to install 3.2 on my new 525 and it came up with those errors. The problem was intermittent, but coping the packages to the HD and installing solved the problems. Thanks for all the help, I hope I can return the favor. HN
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Mike Matthews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC 3Xp and NEXTSTEP 3.2? Date: 6 Jun 1994 18:21:17 -0400 Organization: Southgate Internet Host Message-ID: <2t07gt$116@sgate.com> Has anyone gotten a NEC 3Xp MultiSpin CD ROM drive to work on a NeXTstation (25Mhz mono) running NEXTSTEP 3.2? I'm having a hell of a time with it. Damn thing won't recognize all the CDs, and the ones it *does* recognize, it'll flake out in the middle of a data transfer -- like right now, I put in the AppWrapper CD #5, got the directory, tried to launch the EAW5.app, and it's been spinning up and down and making all kinds of nasty noises. Is this, like, a bad drive or something? Or just a nightmare? If someone can tell me it doesn't like NEXTSTEP (or vice versa) by Email I'd appreciate it, so I can return it and get my money back. Thanks. ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ "I think trash is the most important manifestation of culture we have in my lifetime." - Johnny Legend
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Subject: Thanks: NS/I Trackballs Message-ID: <1994Jun5.185141.2137@hot.com> Sender: robertl@hot.com Organization: Hot Technologies Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 18:51:41 GMT Thanks to everyone (and there were many) who suggested the Logitech trackball as a NS/Intel trackball solution. Thanks again, Robert Robert La Ferla Hot Technologies NEXTSTEP ISV and Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD) Subject: connecting a CLC350 to a computer running NS (summary) Message-ID: <1994Jun5.133414.462@precipice.fdn.org> Sender: neekibo@precipice.fdn.org Organization: Individual - Dijon, France. Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 13:34:14 GMT Thank you for all the people that answer me. here s a summary of the mail i received First thing, its seem that an IPU is needed in all the case, may be due to special hardware protocol. The whole page must be transmitted to the IPU before the CLC could print (the CLCs need the data in 'realtime' during the print process). So, if you want an 400 dpi 24 bit page, you need a lot memory (64 Mb for an A4 and 128 for an A3). Second thing, an other solution exists, rather than Dots, to print on a CLC : eXTRAPRINT from Goldleaf. It seems to be better than Dots (taken from Goldleaf literature) : o Color-Management system built-in. o OPI server built-in (for image handling). o Much better performance. o Better compatibility with Mac Apps. o Image size optimization. o Ability to take advantage of IPU-10 text-board. Dots is cheaper than eXTRAPRINT. the NS/FIP users must buy an extra license to use it on their computer (due to Adobe policy) eXTRAPRINT speed vs FIERY speed (taken from Goldleaf literature) : 1/ eXTRAPRINT requires the use of a Canon IPU (Intelligent Processing Unit) which connects to your NEXSTEP computer via the SCSI port. The IPU cannot accept high speed data transfers from the host computer, which is an unfortunate problem: eXTRAPRINT is capable of RIPing the page virtually as fast as the Fiery RIP, but it takes time to transfer the color image to the IPU for final output. The Fiery RIP has a high speed internal bus, so it doesn't have this problem. This bottom line is that the first page will come out faster on a Fiery than with our system. However, subsequent pages (extra copies) are printed from the IPU's memory, so the print speed is exactly the same using our system as it is using a Fiery. 2/ Our software driver has extremely efficient memory handling routines that only send image data for areas that actually have color coverage. Most pages have signifigant amounts of "white space" that don't require data to be sent to the printer (because there is nothing there!). The less data you have to send, the faster the overall output time. A Fiery RIP calculates and buffers data even for parts of a page that are completely blank. 3/ Average time to print a single A4 page at 400 DPI is roughly 3 minutes. Subsequent pages are printed every 12-24 seconds depending on which CLC you have. The CLC 300 is slower than a 500. I received nothing concerning the features and the speed to print on a CLC using DOTS. I also heard that there may be some announcement at the expo. So wait and see... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hugues RICHARD. 42 Bd Carnot. 21000 Dijon. France. (+33) 80 65 46 96 neekibo@precipice.fdn.org (small NextMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: FAQ for Cube Backplane configuration Message-ID: <CqyECB.IG9@ucdavis.edu> Keywords: Looking for backplane configurations Sender: David Bradford Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Distribution: world Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 02:16:58 GMT Would like to find the FAQ archive for cube backplane configuration. Thanks, David
From: trestrai@news.delphi.com (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Quantum 525 woes Date: 6 Jun 1994 02:28:39 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <2su1kn$emp@news.delphi.com> References: <1994Jun5.205949.12810@cs.rit.edu> hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) writes: >I have installed a new quantum 525 from APS tech and it seem to >format and accept the NS3.2. However when I installed some packages >from the cd or the developer cd, they will install or I will get >an error message like this: Directory checksum error (5 != 8571). [deleted] >I tried to reformat, and I tried using fdformat. (fdformat claimed >it would allow different sized blocks but it always failed. If you want to reformat your SCSI disk, use the sdform supplied with NS, or get sdformat off the ftp archives (sdformat supports block sizes of 512, 1024, & 2048 bytes - sdform only 512). fdformat is for floppies. Jeff trestrail@delphi.com
From: bm10009@cai.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/FIP - 3Com Twisted Pair possible? Date: 5 Jun 1994 13:03:42 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <2ssife$lje@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi. A friend of mine is having some problems using his 3com ethernet card on our twisted-pair network under NS/FIP 3.2. After prodding around a bit we discovered that the card has small buffers and so we know that for NFS to work we need to reduce the standard buffer size from 8192 to 1024 in NFSManager.app. We have tried this but to no avail. We then noticed that we were getting random network related failings - eg the machine periodically wouldn't respond to 'ping'. We don't suspect a hardware fault since the card works fine under DOS/Windows. It was at this point that we came across the 3com driver notes which claim that twisted-pair isn't supported on the card! (I was under the impression that the actual connection type -thin/thick/tp- wouldn't make any difference from the drivers' point of view). We were even more surprised since the card _has_ worked sporadically - eg we have had successful -NXHost, and ftp connections working (but unreliably). Can anyone shed any light on this issue? Are we fighting a lost battle here or are we doing something wrong? Thanks for any pointers, Ben. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Ben Moseley bm10009@cus.cam.ac.uk ** NeXTmail OK ** "To drop is human, to juggle divine." ______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: New Sound Board from Talus Message-ID: <1994Jun4.024621.889@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 02:46:21 GMT In article <Cqsn8s.MKo@utstat.toronto.edu> phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) and writes: > In article <2sl7oe$lgv@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: > > >One thing to remember in the context of Talus drivers is that > >Talus itself isn't in this for charity. I suspect they want > >to write a driver that they can sell. If you're shooting for > >some $100 sound card, then they're going to have sell the > >driver for next to nothing or everyone will cry "foul". Hmmm...this is a tough one. Probably all of us that develop for NS feel that this is a charity (at least NeXT thinks it should be :-)) I certainly hope that no one thinks that we're getting rich, or even breaking even, writing NS drivers. We've been writing drivers to support this community and, who knows, it may someday pay off. We've sure made some good friends (an apparently some enemies) along the way....that's life I guess. We've actually come up with a unique formula that will allow us to do drivers for inexpensive cards, so doing a driver for a $100 sound card is definitely not out of the question. We'll explain this one later, but it WILL make sense to you and we hope that you'll appreciate the extent to which we've gone to bring you great drivers without gouging anyone for their decision to choose NS. Steve Sarich III President Talus Imaging steve@talus.com > >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > >ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) > >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA > > > -- > Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) > philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu > [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: monitor woes (GDM-17E01T) Date: 5 Jun 1994 18:23:03 GMT Message-ID: <2st567$isk@aragorn.unibe.ch> After my original NeXT FIMI monitor broke, I now bought a new monitor. It has a Sony triniton tube and no other name but GMD-17E10T. The image on the screen is sharp and contrasts are OK. I could recommend it ... .. but !!! :-( the image is very strangely stretched. Moving a square from the side (like one of the dock icons) to the center of the screen deforms it to a rectangle. It's getting thinner and the height is increasing as well. I can adjust the screen so that the squares do look like squares in the middle of the screen but then all the dock gets squeezed. This is very bad. Imagine you turn a rectangle about 90 degrees and end up with the same rectangle in the same position because in fact you just mapped a square onto itself by one of its symmetry operations. This is not WYSIWYG at all. Might this be a fabrication fault with the monitor? Is it because of something inside the NeXT (black color station), or is this just unavoidable? Has anyone else experienced this before? Thanks for any comments, Moritz -- Moritz Willers Institute for Theoretical Physics Bern, Switzerland willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ron@nosc.mil (Ron Broersma) Subject: new machine from Canon Message-ID: <1994Jun8.044514.20754@nosc.mil> Sender: news@nosc.mil Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 04:45:14 GMT On Monday morning I had a chance to test drive the new machine that Canon is going to announce at Expo. 486 based with many hardware optimizations for NEXTSTEP. I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw it perform as well as our HP geckos (also running NS). It was the right color (black) and the keyboard will be NeXT-ish (yeah!) rather than PC-ish. I have a feeling this will soon be the platform of choice for running NS. The above is all I was told that I can say about the machine. The rest is all hush-hush until their announcement at Expo. --Ron
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 8 Jun 1994 10:27:37 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <2t46ep$3pi@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <1994May20.041644.1165@talus.com> <2s0cau$c6f@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org) wrote: : talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: : >We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound : >board would really make you happy. : One with at least the sound capabilites of a PAS 16 which works even : on ISA flawlessly. I think this is what you get with an MS Windows Sound System (?). Ok, it's a little bit expensive, but it seems to work ;-) even with ISA. Would really be nice if the driver could be cheated to work also with nearly-MSWSS-compatible cards. These are available at about half the price of the original one. Unfortunately, the NEXTSTEP driver seems to be able to distinguish between them, probably to ensure quality. It just doesn't work with compatibles :-( Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact HeidelNeXT | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 56-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 56-3812 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT fan Message-ID: <1994Jun7.204619.7745@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <2snncc$d00@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:46:19 GMT In article <2snncc$d00@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> park@isl (Sang Ju Park) writes: > Rene' Kulschewski (rene@rkt.in-berlin.de) wrote: > > : I've replaced the original fan with a low-noise, temperature > : controlled fan from a PC power-supply. It works great. > > Is there any similar low-noise fan for Cube ? Original fan in > my cube is somewhat noisy. Go to a computer or electrinics store and ask for (temperature controlled) Pabst fans. They are available in several sizes and strenghts, known to be top of the low noise crop, and genuine German (actually Black Forest) made quality products. There might be other brands (no cauvinism intended :-) but they aren't known to me. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | pgp & NeXTmail ok! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) Subject: Any recommendations for 3.5" MODs? Message-ID: <Cr1vFJ.Ht@euler.hnv.icem.de> Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 23:18:55 GMT I want to buy a 3.5" MOD, 128MB or 230MB (not yet decided). Which ones do work with black hardware? What measures have to be taken to get things functional, if any? Is the speed bearable? Comments? Thanks, Juergen --- Fon ++49-511-440688 NeXTMail welcome Fax ++49-511-440617 == What time do we live in when all the word 'revolution' makes you think of == is a new version of soap powder, == when spontaneity and freedom gets associated with instant coffee?
From: lauren_e@xenon.epita.fr (eric laurent) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Video Card Problem Date: 8 Jun 1994 18:01:12 GMT Organization: Epita (French engineering school) Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t5118$k6c@boson.epita.fr> Hello, A friend of mine recently bought NSFIP 3.2. He uses an Orchid 's fahrenheit 1280 plus VLB video card but fails to access to a resolution higher than the poor vga... If someone knows how to configure it, please tell me how ? Regards, Eric Laurent lauren_e@epita.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tsikes@netcom.com (Terry Sikes) Subject: Re: Open Letter to Next Message-ID: <tsikesCr354E.B9L@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:45:50 GMT In article <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com>, David L. Ellis <dellis@halcyon.com> wrote: >I would just like to make my voice heard on the subject of Next's treatment >of Talus. I do not know all the details and circumstances existing in this >relationship, but I do know that Next has a problem with drivers just as >IBM has problems getting drivers for OS/2. It is in everyone's benifit to >get good and copious numbers of drivers for the ever growing hardware field >that Next is trying to support. Intel, HP PA/RISC, SPARC, whatever... I >don't know why Next has not embraced the talent at Talus, and at least Next >should give these guys some credit for making the Intel world at least >SOMEWHAT hopeful that NSFIP will someday work on their hardware. I have >heard that Next does not like Talus, and that Next even goes out of their >way to hinder Talus' efforts in bringing more drivers to market. I do hope >that, if this is true, that Next will either come forward in a public >manner and tell us the reason why, or that they will stop this silliness >and start supporting Talus in a more substantial way. > >I have no affiliation with Talus, and do not even own any hardware for >which they are working towards a solution, but I am a long time Next >observer and supporter; and I can only see this situation as being >detrimental to both Next as a company and all of Next's users. > >Thank you for your consideration, and if there is a more appropriate forum >for this letter, please let me know. I wanted to chime in along the same lines and state that although I'm not presently an NS user, I'll be evaluating it soon. NeXT's handling of this matter is giving me serious second thoughts as to whether or not I want to get involved with their products, regardless of their technical excellence. It seems to me that NeXT is showing no business sense in this matter, and is letting personalities rule the day. That is not a hallmark of a company I'd prefer to do business with. NeXT may soon realize that a) the negative publicity that this situation is causing far outweighs any detrimental effects that might be involved in supporting Talus, and b) they need the drivers and *ought* to be supporting Talus. Just my $.02. -- Terry Sikes == tsikes@netcom.com | All I want is a baseline 1/1/1 machine: Alternate address: tsikes@fatcity.com | 1000 MIPS, 1000 MB RAM, and 1000 GB HD. Also tlsikes@bix.com, tsikes@aol.com | All my opinions reflect my views only!| Is that too much to ask?
From: claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! My machine is a deaf mute... Date: 8 Jun 1994 17:08:38 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Message-ID: <2t4tum$gqg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: Sound Intel Dear Friends, I have a 486 machine running NS3.2 I have tried to use the ProAudio 16 sound card but apparently it can not be used in a system that also has the ATI Ultra Pro and/or Adaptec 1542B SCSI cards. I have looked at our local Electronics store (Frys) and brought home an "Orchid SoundWave 32" card. I had hoped to find this listed in the third-party driver list on ftp.next.com but no luck. I am hoping some kind soul will tell me how to get a driver for this or any other sound card they know works with ATI Ultra Pro and Adaptec SCSI cards all in the same machine. SoundBlaster seems to be incredibly common but I haven't seen drivers for that either. Any comments. Your help, as always, is greatly appreciated. Name: Will Russell E-mail: claspac@cats.ucsc.edu Voice: 408-459-2060 FAX: 408-429-0146
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: Kjell.Borg@um.erisoft.se (Kjell Borg) Subject: Driver for Weitek P9100? Message-ID: <1994Jun8.080949.26000@um.erisoft.se> Sender: usenet@um.erisoft.se (For NNTP posting) Organization: Erisoft AB Umea Sweden Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 08:09:49 GMT Does anyone know if the Weitek P9000 driver will workfor the Genoa VideoBlitz 9400VL (Also refered to as VideoBlitz II for VL-bus)? Since it not mutch more expensive than the VideoBlitz 9200VL but has mutch higher performance, it would be interesting if the driver would work for Weitek P9100 hardware. /Kjell --- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- || Kjell Borg | Email: Kjell.Borg@um.erisoft.se || || Erisoft Umea | MEMO: ECOM.EPLKBG || || Box 4205 | Tel: +46 90-153059 || || S-904 06 Umea | Fax: +46 90-153099 || || Sweden | || ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Rakesh_Dubey@NeXT.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Board From Talus Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:03:59 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t5f8f$8vt@rosie.next.com> References: <2t46ep$3pi@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <2t46ep$3pi@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: | Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org) wrote: | : talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: | : >We would REALLY like to know, either publicly or privately, what sound | : >board would really make you happy. | | : One with at least the sound capabilites of a PAS 16 which works even | : on ISA flawlessly. | | I think this is what you get with an MS Windows Sound System (?). Ok, | it's a little bit expensive, but it seems to work ;-) even with ISA. | Would really be nice if the driver could be cheated to work also with | nearly-MSWSS-compatible cards. These are available at about half the | price of the original one. | | Unfortunately, the NEXTSTEP driver seems to be able to distinguish | between them, probably to ensure quality. It just doesn't work with | compatibles :-( | | Gregor | The Microsoft Sound System driver should be able to work with many compatible sound cards. However we can not promise that it will work with a particular card. If you find a card that does not work please post name of the card and model number with a detailed description of problem. Thanks! -Rakesh (speaking for myself)
From: hussain@artsci.wustl.edu (Hussain Chinoy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: portable PC experiences ? Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:47:26 GMT Organization: College of Arts and Sciences -- Washington University, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Message-ID: <2t5hpu$a40@bigfoot.wustl.edu> I'm in the market to buy a portable computer and was wondering if anyone out there in the NeXT world has gottent NS 3.2 FIP to work nicely on any portables? I have the Hardwarde Guide NeXT puts out, but I was looking for some personal experiences. Presently, I've been calling around to hardware vendors such as Ambra, NEC, Toshiba, WinBook and the like. I'm particularly interested in the new DX4/75 mhz computers. One little anecdote: I called NEC today about their UltraLite Versa E/75 and spoke with a sales associate who said that not only is there a NeXT driver available so that the active matrix portable's screen can display 16-bit color, NeXT just bought 9 NEC UL Versa E's to put at their booth at the NeXTstep Expo in San Franscisco! Wow! A driver for on-board portable 16-bit color sounds amazing! Anyhow, any help with recomendations or personal experiences would be welcome! Thanks! Hussain Chinoy ___ __________________________________________________________ /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy \/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab NeXTstep, Washington University in St. Louis baby hussain@artsci.wustl.edu ps. Anyone know if drivers for PCMCIA slots (14.4 modems, ethernet connectors) are goingt to be available soon? -ghc
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem question Date: 9 Jun 1994 17:15:10 GMT Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t7imu$ssl@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> References: <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com> <tsikesCr354E.B9L@netcom.com> I just got a new modem and it works fine `cept for one thing... dials fine, the receiving modem picks up and they starts the process of syncing.. my modem falls silent and I get RING RING and then I disconnect any clues? -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Donald F. Bora | | | The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O | Northwestern University | (--|--) Evanston, Ill | | e-mail: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Not NeXTMail) | / \ work: (708) 467-1972 | --------Be excellent to each other--------
From: student1@sea.Corp.Sun.COM (Pierce Hickey (student)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CR-ROM + SCSI card suggestions ? Date: 9 Jun 1994 17:21:53 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t7j3i$e64@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> I've been given the job of installing NeXtstep for intel on an ISA PC. It currently doesn't have a useable CD-ROM - we discovered NS won't work with a ProAudio Card's SCSI the hard way... Could anyone suggest a CD-ROM + Soundcard/SCSI interface combination that WILL work. Will NS work with a 3Com EtherlinkIII ISA card (10-base T connector) ? Nextanswers isn't very helpfull... Thanks, Pierce Hickey. (student1@sea.corp.sun.com)
From: mogo@MCS.COM (Michael J. McGonagle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More Memory for NeXTstation040 Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:19:57 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Message-ID: <2t7thd$4e1@Mercury.mcs.com> I am looking to upgrade my memory from the original 8 megs. Is there anyone out there who may know of something that is avaiable? Please send Email.
From: mahoney@csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "Paper is jammed in your printer" Date: 9 Jun 1994 20:46:29 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Message-ID: <2t7v35$5e5@garuda.csulb.edu> Keywords: NeXT Printer Much as I love her voice, I'm sick of the comment. For some reason, whenever I print a page about 10% of it stays in the NeXT printer. I can easily pull the page out, but the next page won't print and I get the message "Paper is jammed in your printer." Anyone have any thoughts on how to fix this hardware problem? -- Dr. Michael K. Mahoney Associate Dean, College of Engineering Chair, Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept. SCaN President, So. Calif. NEXTSTEP and OpenStep Users' Group California State University, Long Beach Long Beach, CA 90840-8302
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Need recommendations for tape backup and cd-rom drives Message-ID: <1994Jun4.232327.1463@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2snmoh$pu0@sundog.tiac.net> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 23:23:27 GMT In article <2snmoh$pu0@sundog.tiac.net> lloyd@max.tiac.net (Christopher Lloyd - not the actor) writes: > > I'm in need of advice on purchasing SCSI tape backup and CD-ROM drives > that work across NS Intel/Moto/HP. > > NS compatibility, high quality, and speed are the main issues. Any info, > hints, recommendations and horror stories would be greatly appreciated. > > I'm pretty clueless about what's latest/greatest for these peripherals ... > We have both an HP and a Sony DAT. The Sony has given us less trouble than the HP, but the Sony is also newer. We bought SafetyNet and it's one of those "must buy" products if you're running NS and need to back up your system. (no, it's not a Talus product, but I wish it was :-) I don't know how much you have to back up, but have you considered an MO? Pinnacle makes a 2.3 gig MO that's so fast that it looks like a hard drive on your system (16ms if I remember correctly, but don't quote me). If you don't need more than 2.3 gigs, I'd definitely recommend this over the DAT which takes CONSIDERABLY longer. Hope this helps... Steve Sarich III steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Will this motherboard work? Message-ID: <1994Jun5.015027.1787@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <2so2p0$13v@news.tamu.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 01:50:27 GMT In article <2so2p0$13v@news.tamu.edu> dhess@net.tamu.edu writes: > > We are putting a machine together around the AIR > 586EP board. I would also like to use this box to > run NEXTSTEP. Everyone should be aware that many of the Taiwanese motherboards out there vary from batch to batch. They may swap any number of chips depending on availability. This is why we are so reluctant to tell you which boards work and which ones don't. The one you bought last week may work and the "identical" board from the same company may give you gray hair. I'm totally unfamiliar with this particular board, so I can't be of much help on this particular question. > This is a 60/66 Mhz Pentium box with 5 EISA and 2 > PCI slots. It also has an onboard Adaptec 7870 > Fast and Wide SCSI-2 controller and a floppy > controller that will talk to 2.88MB drives. The > video will be done off board with an ATI Graphics > Ultra Pro EISA card. > I'm worried that the 7870 will give me a problem. > The 7770 shows up as supported but not the 7870. > Will I be able to use it at all? Or will I just > not be able to use the Fast & Wide SCSI-2 port? > Comments/suggestions? Thanks. Our Best Suggestions: 1) Video...I'd wait a week or so and then stick a "Talus Certified" :-) PCI ATI Mach 32 or Mach 64 board in this puppy...not an EISA. (Just a suggestion :-) 2) SCSI....Hmmm..just a little tougher :-) You the following options: a) Wait for NeXT to come up with a 7870 driver (that works :-) b) Wait for NeXT to fix the 1542 driver and ignore the fact that you have a fast and wide SCSI-2 controller on board c) Wait for a "third party" to provide you with a "non-NeXT certified" 7870 controller driver in the very near future :-) Warning: Assembling your own machine can be a hit or miss, luck of the draw experience. If you're REALLY good, and REALLY lucky, it'll work without a hitch. We do it all the time, because we have to, to test all the hardware we write drivers for. There are so many variables that it can cause you ulcers in record time. For most people it's probably worthwhile to shell out a few extra bucks to have one delivered to you that "just works". On the down side....there aren't, currently, many of those either. We'll do our best to help. Steve Sarich III Talus steve@talus.com
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Intel] How can I use SoftPC in full screen mode on IntelGX/Pro? Message-ID: <murao.94Jun8115023@blueslab> Date: 8 Jun 94 16:50:23 GMT Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Distribution: comp Organization: Information Processing Center Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Dear folks, I'm using NS3.2J/FIP (J means Japanese enhancement) on IntelGX/Pro. I've heard that SoftPC would run in full screen mode on this machine, but only DOS mode works fine and Windows not. When I launch the Windows from DOS prompt, the screen is always black out. I wonder if there are some mistakes in hardware configuration. Our configuration is that: ECU configuration for Video system, Video Type = VGA/EGA Offboard VGA/EGA Video Adapter = No - Enable Onboard Video Onboard Video BIOS Mapping = To C0000h Mach32 configuration, VGA memory: shared Please let me know any advise. Sorry for my poor English. --- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hajime Murao <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> -*- NeXTmail gladly accepted !! Graduate School of Science and Technology, Kobe University, Japan Phone 078-881-1212 (ext.2807) / FAX 078-803-0168 / NIFTY NAA01617
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ez042748@othello.ucdavis.edu (Kokhanya Chrystyna) Subject: Video cards compatible with black FIMI monitor? Message-ID: <Cr28qt.334@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis Distribution: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 04:06:29 GMT I want to use my FIMI monitor on a 486 system to run AutoCAD. Are there any compatible video cards that can sync with Next's FIMI? Thanks -Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag) Subject: Re: noiseless NeXTSTEP computer? Message-ID: <Cr3xoM.KJ2@news.cis.umn.edu> Keywords: no fan no harddisk Sender: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota References: <Cr0qv8.EJy@risc1.rug.nl> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 02:01:12 GMT Greetings, I worked in a lab where this exact situation was encountered. The solution was to drill a small hole through which the keyboard cable could fit. The computer was then placed OUTSIDE of the room. The monitor was viewed through a window. Of course, this will depend upon having external space to place the computer. Hope you find a solution! -Sharad - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218 Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201 Department of Neurosurgery University of Minnesota email: 421 Lions Research Building shanbhag@neuro.med.umn.edu 2001 6th St. SE shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu Minneapolis, MN 55455
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stuarts@landau.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Staniford-Chen) Subject: Seeking opinions on JCIS systems. Message-ID: <Cr3yLF.9Br@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: University of California, Davis Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 02:22:26 GMT I've been looking at a price list for JCIS systems, and am attracted to what I see. Does anyone who has experience with this hardware comment on their impressions? I'm particularly interested in the high end Pentium systems, but general comments about the company, service, etc. would be very welcome. Thanks, Stuart Staniford-Chen stuarts@landau.ucdavis.edu
From: rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Running NeXTstation Turbo diskless Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:36:05 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2t5v6l$1je@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2obmvr$4sl@fermat.mayo.edu> I just booted successfully from an IOMEGA Bernoulli 150 megabyte transportable by setting its SCSI id to 0. The internal hard drive is SCSI 1. Thus the boot script found the external drive before the internal drive and booted from it. I previously had done a DiskBuild on the Bernoulli cartridge. I know this is not the same as unplugging the power supply to the internal drive. But it might keep you going when the internal drive crashes. Rod Willard
From: sbender@harmony.digex.net (Scott Bender) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! My machine is a deaf mute... Date: 9 Jun 1994 03:57:32 GMT Organization: Harmony Data Systems Message-ID: <2t63vc$bgs@news1.digex.net> References: <2t4tum$gqg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Keywords: Sound Intel In article <2t4tum$gqg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> claspac@tallis.ucsc.edu (Jas-Russell) writes: > I have a 486 machine running NS3.2 > I have tried to use the ProAudio 16 sound card but apparently > it can not be used in a system that also has the ATI Ultra Pro > and/or Adaptec 1542B SCSI cards. [...crunch...] > I am hoping some kind soul will tell me how > to get a driver for this or any other sound card > they know works with ATI Ultra Pro and Adaptec SCSI > cards all in the same machine. > > SoundBlaster seems to be incredibly common but > I haven't seen drivers for that either. I use the Adaptech card with the ATI GUP and was not able to use the PAS 16 either. After trying many different cards I settled on the SoundBlaster16 Basic. Although the driver isn't perfect, I do get sound. The driver is available somewhere on cs.orst.edu - Scott
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quickguide to NEXTSTEP Information available on the Internet Date: 9 Jun 1994 01:07:57 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2t683d$2h4@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. 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From: byrd@nachste.star.harc.edu (Marc J. Byrd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Cheapest Laptop? Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:39:53 GMT Organization: Houston Advanced Research Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t5hbp$f8v@spectre.star.harc.edu> References: <2sr7l0$b7p@umd5.umd.edu> In article <2sr7l0$b7p@umd5.umd.edu> bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin) writes: > Paul R. Tognato-Haddad (pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote: > : What's the cheapest laptop that is able to run NEXTSTEP FIP? > > : The Versa's are way too expensive, and I don't think I even want > : to know how much one of those (Sun) PowerLite's cost. > > That all depends on what kind of performance you're willing to put > up with. > > A laptop with a 486SL/25 (not SX), 12mb of RAM, mono display, 120mb > hard drive could be purchased for around $1900. But that's *really* > slow. Almost all laptops have no L2 cache, so memory access is > awful. Add to that HD's that have 17+ms access times and non-local bus > graphics, it'll crawl (but that's completely subjective). The $2k > price is for laptops from "off" brands. > > Moving to, say, a 486DX2/50, 20mb of RAM, local bus mono display, > and 340mb HD, you'll get respectable speed for $2500. > > It gets *really* expensive with color. A simple dual scan color display > adds $500+ to the price, and active matrix color is easily a $1500 option. I read recently that the 3V, 100 MHz Pentium is prototyping now, with machines to be released by the end of the year. (Byte?) Seems to me the ideal processor for a NeXT laptop, eh? Add a DSP on board with fax/modem/sound... capabilities, and you got a pretty killer system. Marc byrd@harc.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($EN(&%R=&EC;&4@ M/#)S<C=L,"1B-W!`=6UD-2YU;60N961U/B!B8VAI;D!I<RUN97AT+G5M9"YE M9'4@*$)I;&P@0VAI;BD@=W)I=&5S.EP*/B!0875L(%(N(%1O9VYA=&\M2&%D M9&%D("AP875L=$!B:6=D;V<N96YG<BYA<FEZ;VYA+F5D=2D@=W)O=&4Z7`H^ M(#H@5VAA="=S('1H92!C:&5A<&5S="!L87!T;W`@=&AA="!I<R!A8FQE('1O M(')U;B!.15A44U1%4"!&25`_7`H^(%P*/B`Z(%1H92!697)S82=S(&%R92!W M87D@=&]O(&5X<&5N<VEV92P@86YD($D@9&]N)W0@=&AI;FL@22!E=F5N('=A M;G1<"CX@.B!T;R!K;F]W(&AO=R!M=6-H(&]N92!O9B!T:&]S92`H4W5N*2!0 M;W=E<DQI=&4G<R!C;W-T+EP*/B!<"CX@5&AA="!A;&P@9&5P96YD<R!O;B!W M:&%T(&MI;F0@;V8@<&5R9F]R;6%N8V4@>6]U)W)E('=I;&QI;F<@=&\@<'5T M7`H^('5P('=I=&@N7`H^(%P*/B!!(&QA<'1O<"!W:71H(&$@-#@V4TPO,C4@ M*&YO="!36"DL(#$R;6(@;V8@4D%-+"!M;VYO(&1I<W!L87DL(#$R,&UB7`H^ M(&AA<F0@9')I=F4@8V]U;&0@8F4@<'5R8VAA<V5D(&9O<B!A<F]U;F0@)#$Y M,#`N("!"=70@=&AA="=S("IR96%L;'DJ7`H^('-L;W<N("!!;&UO<W0@86QL M(&QA<'1O<',@:&%V92!N;R!,,B!C86-H92P@<V\@;65M;W)Y(&%C8V5S<R!I M<UP*/B!A=V9U;"X@061D('1O('1H870@2$0G<R!T:&%T(&AA=F4@,3<K;7,@ M86-C97-S('1I;65S(&%N9"!N;VXM;&]C86P@8G5S7`H^(&=R87!H:6-S+"!I M="=L;"!C<F%W;"`H8G5T('1H870G<R!C;VUP;&5T96QY('-U8FIE8W1I=F4I M+B`@5&AE("0R:UP*/B!P<FEC92!I<R!F;W(@;&%P=&]P<R!F<F]M(")O9F8B M(&)R86YD<RY<"CX@7`H^($UO=FEN9R!T;RP@<V%Y+"!A(#0X-D18,B\U,"P@ M,C!M8B!O9B!204TL(&QO8V%L(&)U<R!M;VYO(&1I<W!L87DL7`H^(&%N9"`S M-#!M8B!(1"P@>6]U)VQL(&=E="!R97-P96-T86)L92!S<&5E9"!F;W(@)#(U M,#`N7`H^(%P*/B!)="!G971S("IR96%L;'DJ(&5X<&5N<VEV92!W:71H(&-O M;&]R+B`@02!S:6UP;&4@9'5A;"!S8V%N(&-O;&]R(&1I<W!L87E<"CX@861D M<R`D-3`P*R!T;R!T:&4@<')I8V4L(&%N9"!A8W1I=F4@;6%T<FEX(&-O;&]R M(&ES(&5A<VEL>2!A("0Q-3`P(&]P=&EO;BY<"EP*7`I)(')E860@<F5C96YT M;'D@=&AA="!T:&4@,U8L(#$P,"!-2'H@4&5N=&EU;2!I<R!P<F]T;W1Y<&EN M9UP*;F]W+"!W:71H(&UA8VAI;F5S('1O(&)E(')E;&5A<V5D(&)Y('1H92!E M;F0@;V8@=&AE('EE87(N("A">71E/RE<"E-E96US('1O(&UE('1H92!I9&5A M;"!P<F]C97-S;W(@9F]R(&$@3F585"!L87!T;W`L(&5H/UP*061D(&$@1%-0 M(&]N(&)O87)D('=I=&@@9F%X+VUO9&5M+W-O=6YD+BXN(&-A<&%B:6QI=&EE M<RQ<"F%N9"!Y;W4@9V]T(&$@<')E='1Y(&MI;&QE<B!S>7-T96TN7`I<"EP* 636%R8UP*8GER9$!H87)C+F5D=0I]"G1Y `
From: byrd@nachste.star.harc.edu (Marc J. Byrd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [intel] Cheapest Laptop? Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:40:44 GMT Organization: Houston Advanced Research Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t5hdc$f9h@spectre.star.harc.edu> References: <2sr7l0$b7p@umd5.umd.edu> In article <2sr7l0$b7p@umd5.umd.edu> bchin@is-next.umd.edu (Bill Chin) writes: > Paul R. Tognato-Haddad (pault@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu) wrote: > : What's the cheapest laptop that is able to run NEXTSTEP FIP? > > : The Versa's are way too expensive, and I don't think I even want > : to know how much one of those (Sun) PowerLite's cost. > > That all depends on what kind of performance you're willing to put > up with. > > A laptop with a 486SL/25 (not SX), 12mb of RAM, mono display, 120mb > hard drive could be purchased for around $1900. > > Moving to, say, a 486DX2/50, 20mb of RAM, local bus mono display, > and 340mb HD, you'll get respectable speed for $2500. > > It gets *really* expensive with color. A simple dual scan color display > adds $500+ to the price, and active matrix color is easily a $1500 option. I read recently that the 3V, 100 MHz Pentium is prototyping now, with machines to be released by the end of the year. (Byte?) Seems to me the ideal processor for a NeXT laptop, eh? Add a DSP on board with fax/modem/sound... capabilities, and you got a pretty killer system, (power & price, eh?) Marc byrd@harc.edu -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($EN(&%R=&EC;&4@ M/#)S<C=L,"1B-W!`=6UD-2YU;60N961U/B!B8VAI;D!I<RUN97AT+G5M9"YE M9'4@*$)I;&P@0VAI;BD@=W)I=&5S.EP*/B!0875L(%(N(%1O9VYA=&\M2&%D M9&%D("AP875L=$!B:6=D;V<N96YG<BYA<FEZ;VYA+F5D=2D@=W)O=&4Z7`H^ M(#H@5VAA="=S('1H92!C:&5A<&5S="!L87!T;W`@=&AA="!I<R!A8FQE('1O M(')U;B!.15A44U1%4"!&25`_7`H^(%P*/B`Z(%1H92!697)S82=S(&%R92!W M87D@=&]O(&5X<&5N<VEV92P@86YD($D@9&]N)W0@=&AI;FL@22!E=F5N('=A M;G1<"CX@.B!T;R!K;F]W(&AO=R!M=6-H(&]N92!O9B!T:&]S92`H4W5N*2!0 M;W=E<DQI=&4G<R!C;W-T+EP*/B!<"CX@5&AA="!A;&P@9&5P96YD<R!O;B!W M:&%T(&MI;F0@;V8@<&5R9F]R;6%N8V4@>6]U)W)E('=I;&QI;F<@=&\@<'5T M7`H^('5P('=I=&@N7`H^(%P*/B!!(&QA<'1O<"!W:71H(&$@-#@V4TPO,C4@ M*&YO="!36"DL(#$R;6(@;V8@4D%-+"!M;VYO(&1I<W!L87DL(#$R,&UB7`H^ M(&AA<F0@9')I=F4@8V]U;&0@8F4@<'5R8VAA<V5D(&9O<B!A<F]U;F0@)#$Y M,#`N7`H^(%P*/B!-;W9I;F<@=&\L('-A>2P@82`T.#9$6#(O-3`L(#(P;6(@ M;V8@4D%-+"!L;V-A;"!B=7,@;6]N;R!D:7-P;&%Y+%P*/B!A;F0@,S0P;6(@ M2$0L('EO=2=L;"!G970@<F5S<&5C=&%B;&4@<W!E960@9F]R("0R-3`P+EP* M/B!<"CX@270@9V5T<R`J<F5A;&QY*B!E>'!E;G-I=F4@=VET:"!C;VQO<BX@ M($$@<VEM<&QE(&1U86P@<V-A;B!C;VQO<B!D:7-P;&%Y7`H^(&%D9',@)#4P M,"L@=&\@=&AE('!R:6-E+"!A;F0@86-T:79E(&UA=')I>"!C;VQO<B!I<R!E M87-I;'D@82`D,34P,"!O<'1I;VXN7`I<"EP*22!R96%D(')E8V5N=&QY('1H M870@=&AE(#-6+"`Q,#`@34AZ(%!E;G1I=6T@:7,@<')O=&]T>7!I;F=<"FYO M=RP@=VET:"!M86-H:6YE<R!T;R!B92!R96QE87-E9"!B>2!T:&4@96YD(&]F M('1H92!Y96%R+B`H0GET93\I7`I3965M<R!T;R!M92!T:&4@:61E86P@<')O M8V5S<V]R(&9O<B!A($YE6%0@;&%P=&]P+"!E:#]<"D%D9"!A($134"!O;B!B M;V%R9"!W:71H(&9A>"]M;V1E;2]S;W5N9"XN+B!C87!A8FEL:71I97,L7`IA M;F0@>6]U(&=O="!A('!R971T>2!K:6QL97(@<WES=&5M+"`H<&]W97(@)B!P F<FEC92P@96@_*5P*7`I<"DUA<F-<"F)Y<F1`:&%R8RYE9'4*?0IW `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Subject: Re: Open Letter to Next Message-ID: <Cr3qKy.2v4@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> Sender: terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. References: <tsikesCr354E.B9L@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:29:22 GMT Terry Sikes writes In article <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com>, David L. Ellis <dellis@halcyon.com> wrote: >>I would just like to make my voice heard on the subject of Next's >>treatment of Talus. I do not know all the details and circumstances >>existing in this relationship, but I do know that Next has a >I wanted to chime in along the same lines and state that although >I'm not presently an NS user, I'll be evaluating it soon. NeXT's >handling of this matter is giving me serious second thoughts as to >whether or not I want to get involved with their products, regardless Whenever I see this kind of response, the first thing that pops to mind is: what exactly is NeXT's treatment of Talus? I've asked this before and all I got were vague generalities about how NeXT doesn't like Talus. So what has NeXT done to Talus? I certainly don't know all the details and circumstances about NeXT's treatment of Talus and I'm afraid few people do. Talus seems to be intentionally slamming NeXT, especially with "NeXT treats us so bad", but I've seen no real examples. If anything, all I've seen is Talus bad-mouthing NeXT. If Talus has a real complaint, let's hear it. Innuendo and insults are valueless. If their only complaint is "NeXT won't certify our drivers", my response is "who cares?". Most people don't know or care that NeXT certifies drivers. As long as Talus guarantees and supports them, it doesn't matter. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox (terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca) `Some praise at morning what they blame at night; But always think the last opinion right.' - Alexander Pope
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP 310, Dots & NS Message-ID: <Jun.10.02.21.14.1994.17164@gandalf.rutgers.edu> Date: 10 Jun 94 06:21:15 GMT Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Hi All, Quick question. Does anyone know if a HP 310 printer will work with NS if one uses DOTS? The latest version I've found DOTS3.5 doesn't list the HP 310. But I imagine that either the HP 500C or HP500 driver might work, but I dont know for sure. Does anyone have any clues. I would like to buy DOTS, but only if it works with this printer--hopefully both in color and B&W modes. Thanks in advance, Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Subject: Re: Printer on Parallel port (NS/I)- any chance now or in the future? Message-ID: <CrBHJw.Ew8@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager) Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science References: <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 03:55:08 GMT In article <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) writes: >Hi; > >Any chance of connecting a parallel ps-printer to NS/I now or in the near >future. Any comments/suggestions? > >Thanks a lot. >Best Regards. >--chip (cnayak@crl.com) > I was able to plug my TI 2106 OmniLaser ps printer directly into the NSFIP port and it just worked with minimal effort (like selecting a printer). The 2106 is obsolete and is not level 2 ps, but I am sure that if the 2106 just plugs in and works, others will too. david -- david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge. nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> From: Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Message-ID: <9406131321.AA02942@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 15:18:38 +0200 Subject: support I have two questions bothering me: 1. Has the NeXTStep a video card support working on PCI bus? 2. Has the NeXTStep a SCSI controller support working on PCI bus already? Any information will be appreciated. Stanislaw Stefanowski staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl (NeXT mail welcome)
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 4DX2-66P Problem Date: 19 Jun 1994 02:15:41 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2u09od$r1l@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2tuh97$2eo@beta.qmw.ac.uk> In article <2tuh97$2eo@beta.qmw.ac.uk>, Achmatowicz <richarda@tea.dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote: >I'm trying to install NS/I 3.2 on a Gateway 2000 4DX2-66P (PCI) >with the following configuration: >Western Digital AC2540H 540 Mb IDE Hard Disk > >At installation time, the bus is identified as ISA, which may not >be a problem. All devices are identified OK. But when NeXTStep >starts to copy the system over, just at the stage when it >warns of formatting the drive, the format starts and crashes >with >/private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 14336 at offset 0: mangled entry >mode=022120 inum=6148 fs=/private/tmp/mnta >panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc > >I tried different disk partitions, reformatting the disk under >DOS, and anything else I could think of. Same result. > >I suspect it is the problem some people experience with IDE >drives over 500Mb in size. I'm going to try to get a smaller >drive to test with. > Drives over 500 Mb are using some new methods to get past the original IDE boundaries. Since Next uses its own code instead of machine BIOS it may not be be able to see the extra space. I suggest a parition below the 500 (504?) mb boundary as the installation target. You might want to use DOS (ugh) to create the original partitions. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: NEC 3Xe CD-ROM and NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <CrKDL6.BMq@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2tl5qh$9va@s.ms.uky.edu> <1994Jun15.081313.21516@cc.usu.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 23:07:54 GMT slxn8@cc.usu.edu wrote: : In article <2tl5qh$9va@s.ms.uky.edu>, aaronh@ms.uky.edu (Aaron Herskowitz) writes: : > I am interested in purchasing an NEC 3Xe CD-ROM drive for my : > NeXTstation, but I am unsure if it is compatible. : > : > Has anyone used an NEC 3X drive with NeXTSTEP (white or black : > hardware)?!?! : > : > Thanks in advance for any info anyone can provide. : I have a NEC 3Xi. Everything seemed to work O.K. My NEXTSTEP install on white : hardware (NEC Image P60) worked. But when I tried to install the developer : stuff, I would always get a CRC error during the Package's install. It would : occur at random places in the install. I have talked to some other people on : the Net, and they have experienced similar problems. I ended up having to use : my ol' trusty black NeXT drive to install the stuff. My 3X external drive is plugged into my NeXTStation at this moment. It has and does work fine (fast!!!) on any black hardware that I've ever tried. The problem, for me, lies in Intel hardware. It is unreliable on the Intel GX/Pro, using the Adaptec 6X60 chipset driver. I have heard this from several sources, and it has always been attributed to NeXT's as-yet-never-released driver. When using a DPT 2022 or Adaptec 1542CF, I have no trouble with the CD drive. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: NOETZEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (Jeremy Noetzelman) Subject: Use of Micropolis MC2217S Hard Drive Message-ID: <16FD8DE0ES85.NOETZEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (Greg Bell) Organization: Washington State University Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 22:47:26 GMT We would like to purchase a Micropolis MC2217S external 1.75GB hard drive for our NeXTStation network. However, this hard drive must be compatible with our Novell NetWare 3.11 File Server, should we decide to discontinue our NeXT support. Basically, I need to know if there would be any compatibility problems with using the HD with our NetWare server instead. The NetWare server runs on a 486/66 with a standard SCSI driver. There are already two SCSI drives on the fileserver.Please reply via email, as I do not monitor these groups. Jeremy Noetzelman i9307999@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NSFip on Texas Instruments Portable Date: 17 Jun 1994 20:42:06 -0400 Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877 Message-ID: <2ttfsu$irb@great-miami.iac.net> Anyone have NSFIP running on a TI portable? I am thinking about trying it on a DX4/75 ... Brick -- Brick Eksten Digital Processing Systems brick@iac.net
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Graphics Cards with 4MB VRAM? Date: 17 Jun 1994 01:40:17 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tquu1$d9a@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <2tm4b9$23i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <2tm4b9$23i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: > > What graphics cards that have 4MB or more of VRAM > and that have drivers are available for NS/i? I would avoid the DEC 4 MB S928 card, as the NEXTSTEP drivers are about worthless. It's a fine card at 2 MB, just not worth the cost of the 4 MB version. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: The Legendary NeXTdimension JPEG daughter card Date: 17 Jun 1994 02:41:10 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tr2g6$3q2@rosie.next.com> Keywords: NeXTdimension, JPEG, NUGI Auction Recently, while cleaning out some dusty old drawers, I came across... The NeXTdimension JPEG Daughter Card! (Cue the chorus. Damn! I really need some multimedia here...) Now, I don't have any paper or on-line documentation for this thing, so the information, such as it is, contained in the board can be passed along to only one other person. Since lots of folks have expressed interest in this thing, I have something of a problem. Do I play favorites, or do I find some fair and equitable way of letting folks have a chance at getting this item? Well, fairness has triumphed over greed, and I have turned over the card and a floppy of Good Stuff to Darren Smith, who is coordinating things here for the NeXT User Group Auction. If you want a chance at this item, you'll need to be at the NeXT User Group Auction, Wednesday, June 22, 11:45 til 1:00, at Moscone Center in San Francisco, California. Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM ---- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. "Mommy, mommy! I bit him on the ankle and the mean old engineer still won't give me all his source code!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next From: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (G. A. Pohl) Subject: Dead 17"-NeXT Color Monitorx ----- Where to repair without huge costs? Message-ID: <1994Jun16.201640.15164@utata.wy.in-berlin.de> Sender: grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de (Gernot Armin Pohl) Organization: WYDOKS-International, Berlin Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:16:40 GMT Any experiences in this case with certain service provider? Or better to buy a new one (our is build May91) ? -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P(%P*06YY(&5X<&5R M:65N8V5S(&EN('1H:7,@8V%S92!W:71H(&-E<G1A:6X@<V5R=FEC92!P<F]V M:61E<C]<"EP*3W(@8F5T=&5R('1O(&)U>2!A(&YE=R!O;F4@*&]U<B!I<R!B 0=6EL9"!-87DY,2D@/PI]"F5R ` -- .. viel Spasz! > Grisu grisu@utata.wy.in-berlin.de \_/ alt.: grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de Gernot A. Pohl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Building a DOS partition Message-ID: <1994Jun12.225326.18284@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 22:53:26 GMT Here's the deal. I have a PC with a 540M hard drive, and I've added an additional 105M drive, for DOS. NEXTSTEP is already installed on this machine, and there is a user's home directory on the 540, so if I can avoid it, I'd like to get away with not formatting the 540. What's the easiest way for me to get DOS on the 105, with a dual boot configuration? Is placing the 105 in an external drive an option, and just plugging it in if I need DOS? Any info is appreciated. - darcy -- <Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve <It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: SCSI error Message-ID: <1994Jun12.225426.18374@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <1994Jun12.200547.11138@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 22:54:26 GMT Found the problem. *Both* disks were terminated. - darcy In article <1994Jun12.200547.11138@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: >I just added a 100M disk to a PC, for DOS/Windows development use. It's >a 105 that came from an original NeXTstation (kinda funny, isn't it ;-). > >However, it's resisting it's new role with some vigor: here's what >I get during boot: > >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: MAXTOR MXT-540SL J1.5 >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd0a >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: Device Capacity: 521 MB >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: Disk Label: Disk >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: QUANTUM LP105S 910109405 2.8 >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL. >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: target:4 lun:0 op:Mode Sense >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 4 LUN 0 at sc0 >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd1a >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL. >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: target:4 lun:0 op:Mode Sense >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 512 bytes >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 100 MB >Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Disk Label: disk > >It seems to be working fine... should I worry about this? Is there anything >I can do to fix it? Could it be a termination problem? If so, what then? > >Any info is appreciated (as well as advice on separate DOS partitions/drives, >dos and don'ts). > >Thanks in advance, > >- darcy > >-- ><Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve ><It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock > tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink > wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul -- <Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve <It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
From: robin2@garnet.berkeley.edu (Robin Chung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: **Which graphics board for NFIP 3.2?** Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:42:20 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2t7nqc$6r4@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all. I am trying to get NFIP 3.2 running on a PC here, and I am trying to make a decision on a video board and monitor choice. I have narrowed my monitor choices down to the following: Sony CPD 1730 MAG MXF 17F Viewsonic 17G. as you may notice, the Sony is priced a class above the other two in case my manager doesn't approve the Sony, any other comments? And also, which boards have been good for NextStep? I know that only a few are supported, and these are on my short list. Any comments would be greatly appreciated... good, bad,.. recommendations, etc. Diamond Viper VLB #9GXE Level 11 or 12. ATI Ultra Graphics Pro VLB Any suggestions? And how much did you end up spending for the above combination? -rob -- Robin Chung Jasmine is my Pearl White EX500 ==>> DSP Engineer / Mainframe Admin Haas School of Business / UC Berkeley work (510) 643 5923 .No officer, I am a biker, not a human being... ;-)
From: glenn.brown@quickmail.llnl.gov (Glenn Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: UPS lost my monitor. Need port pinouts. Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:47:04 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, NCD Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[5126] Message-ID: <2t7o38$gv9@lll-winken.llnl.gov> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. UPS lost my monochrome monitor, and I have a 21" Sony Multiscan HG sitting here that I want to connect until UPS can locate my monitor. Consequently, I need the monitor cable and keyboard cable printouts so I can make the appropriate cables. Could someone mail them? Thanks, --Glenn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: FAQ--Multiple Serial Ports on White Message-ID: <1994Jun9.042027.2097@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 04:20:27 GMT I am interested to learn if it can be done, and if so, how and with what degree of success. I need more than two serial ports. I need a serial port for a mouse and then connections to up to three machines via a serial connection. If anyone has done anything like this, let me hear about it. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fujitsu 2694 - Will it format ok? Date: 12 Jun 1994 17:03:28 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2tg7og$g2o@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <1994Jun9.145704.17826@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu wrote: : I am thinking of buying a 1.2GB Fujitsu 2694 external : drive from a Mac supplier for use on my Intel GX : server (with DTP SCSI card - Yes I know about the : EATA bug!) running NeXTstep/Intel 3.2. The 2694 works like a champ. Only problem is that the sectors are 512 vice 1024, but I think Sdformat, a PD file, can take care of that. I just used the regular builddisk app and it works very nicely. Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: simens@dcs.gla.ac.uk (Simen Storsveen) Subject: Re: Intermittent boot problems... Message-ID: <CrB8Jn.8xx@dcs.gla.ac.uk> Organization: Computing Science Dept., Glasgow University, Glasgow, Scotland References: <2sne2i$k47@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:40:34 GMT daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) writes: >Has anyone ever encountered a problem like this with black hardware >(mine is an 040 cube): > Sometimes the machine boots fine. > Sometimes when the machine attempts to boot the hard disk makes > a repeated clicking sound (about 1 sec between repeats) that > sounds like a first seek; the hard disk is never recognized. > Sometimes when the machine attempts to boot there is no sound > and the hard disk is never recognized. > > In all cases the initial ROM diagnostic passes. > For whatever reason, taking the back off the machine seems to > increase the chances of a successful boot. >Clearly, something is marginal; the back plate issue makes me think that >maybe it's some kind of loose connector. I've reseated everything about >a zillion times to no effect. >Please, if any of this sounds familiar, let me know. I don't have any more >money to put into this thing, and without advice all I can do is try to >replace major components until I find the one that's messed up. >Thanks, >DR Apparently, old hard drives can stick because of hardening lubricants. If you tap the drive a little it should get going again. Simen
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone installed a Seagate drive in a cube? Date: 12 Jun 1994 22:00:03 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <2tglk3$151u@argo.unm.edu> References: <2tadrb$2q3v@argo.unm.edu> <2tdmru$mjo@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <940611222750.3275AAC6K.info@barkley> >>I've had an ST13200 up and running just fine, as well as the Barracuda 2.1gb >>ST21550. The last letters in the model number are significant, as to just how >>you set scsi ids. I hope you have the manual, because there are jumper settings >>that must be set properly, and it would be a devil to do it without the manual. >> >>You really need the manual. >Actually you can get the SCSI settings for all Seagate hard drives by calling >Seagate Technical Support at 408.438.8222...not every drive is currently in >there but most are...Automated information is available 24 hours/day, however >information on the ST11200 is not in the automated system. >Dave Briggman Thanks, Dave and Chip. Actually, I called the hotline AND looked in my manual, but I still don't have things quite working the way they should. I tried running the drive with jumpers set both to power only the drive terminators and to power them off the SCSI buss, but every time I think I've got it the drive begins to get sense errors at some point. Can you tell me exactly how you had your other jumpers configured? I pulled this drive out of my Indigo 2, and I've begun to realize that the two configurations are pretty wildly different. Thanks! Dave
From: burton@het.brown.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q. What to do?? Date: 13 Jun 1994 05:27:25 GMT Organization: Brown University Message-ID: <2tgqnt$d4c@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> Yesterday I posted a note to csn.sysadmin about my problem formatting MO disks on my cube. I now believe it is an intermittent hardware problem, and have been told that the symptom has turned up before in this forum. If anyone remembers what causes the problem, and has any advice, I'd be most grateful to hear it. Briefly: my optical drive works fine when reading fully initialized disks. But when I insert a blank virgin disk, it halts in the middle of the initial low-level read, getting the disk label information but then freezing completely. Whatever process is looking for the disk then becomes unkillable, since it is waiting for the end of a block read (which never comes) and so never receives 'kill' or 'kill -9'. Since the process can't be halted, there is no clean way to shut down the system, and I have to break out to the ROM monitor and come down hard, then reboot with a full fsck of my hard drive after ejecting the oppy. Ideas that DON'T work: Just insert the oppy for formatting---this hangs 'autodiskmount'. Run 'disk -i /dev/od0a'---this prompts for the disk, then hangs. Try 'mount'ing the disk manually---prompts for the disk; gets stuck at the same place. And if I cat /foo/junk > /dev/rod0a, again the alert panel comes up for disk insertion, and the drive then reads two lines of label data and freezes. In short, nothing that accesses the device file is going to work, because the problem occurs during the process of having the disk recognized. The big clue is the following cryptic message that I get when I try to reboot the system without removing the offending disk: panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q Two people who have responded to my initial post tell me that this is a known hardware problem, and that it often arises from a loose cable in or connected to the drive. For what it's worth, I just went into the cube, cleaned the filter (while I was there), removed and carefully replaced the oppy data cable on both the motherboard and the MO drive, jiggled the drive power cable a bit (it seemed secure, so I didn't pull it) and put Humpty Dumpty together again. Result: drive still works for formatted disks; still fails with 'empty q' when presented with virgin disks. Could some kind soul who remembers what this is all about please point me at the appropriate FAQ, or rummage through the old postings and/or memories to tell me what exactly is likely to be wrong? Thanks very much! This analogy is like |========================================================= lifting yourself by | Joshua W. Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu your own bootstraps. |=========================================================
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Quick guide to NEXTSTEP Information on the Internet Date: 13 Jun 1994 01:49:51 -0400 Organization: Next Announcements Message-ID: <2tgs1v$qbe@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers New Information --------------- Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server online A product directory built around the World Wide Web system, this will allow full multimedia announcements by NEXTSTEP developers, as well as the ability to browse the available products for NEXTSTEP. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jwales@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jimmy -Jimbo- Wales) Subject: NS-FIP support for Symmetric Multiprocessors? Message-ID: <CrBvvH.2vn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Indiana University Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:04:29 GMT Would NS3.2 for Intel work on a V-Tech dual Pentium system? And, if so, would NS take advantage of the multiple processors in a sensible way? I checked the FAQs before asking and couldn't find anything. E-mail and/or newsgroup posts welcomed! --Jimbo
From: rragner@stingray.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Edge-to-edge Printer Date: 13 Jun 1994 15:08:45 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Message-ID: <2thspt$rta@news.iastate.edu> We are in need of replacing one or more of our NeXT laser printers. The replacement must be able to print on the entire sheet of paper (most laser printers will not permit you to print on the outer quarter inch edges). An additional problem is that our special form seems to be causing the printer to fail to print and feed correctly. The form is narrow, long and on thick stock with pressure sensitive labels on one half. The narrowness of the form requires that it be feed through the center of the paper path, causing the middle pinch roller to wear, while the outer two pinch rollers barely touch each other (because of the thick stock being used). Eventually the gears and pinch rollers begin to slip and the output becomes banded and unexceptable. If anyone is aware of a rugged edge-to-edge PostScript printer which can be used with NS, please let us know! A PostScript printer which prints narrow forms well would also be great. Thanks in advance! rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu (NeXTmail)
From: "Wesley C. Smith" <wes@arissoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Paper is jammed in your printer" Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:39:25 GMT Organization: Take Three Message-ID: <940613103925.4410AAABE.wes@arissoft> References: <2t7v35$5e5@garuda.csulb.edu> <1994Jun12.090047.1737@seer.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>For some reason, whenever I print a page about 10% of it stays in >>the NeXT printer. >Isn't that the worn cog problem? There is a particular nylon gear wheel >deep inside the printer that causes this. Some people have made up a >metal replacement, maybe someone has one spare for you? I have also seen the problem caused by telling NEXTSTEP the paper is smaller than it really is. Check your page layout settings. Wes Smith wes@arissoft.com MIME and NeXTmail ok "Power corrupts, and the power to tax corrupts absolutely."
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Have 040 NeXT w/NS3.2 will Exabyte 8200 work? Date: 13 Jun 1994 11:11:08 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2thesc$11d@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <Cr5s5w.Cy1@ucdavis.edu> In article <Cr5s5w.Cy1@ucdavis.edu> dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) writes: |>I have an Exabyte 8200 tape drive. Will a 040 NeXT under NS3.2 |> |>drive it?? |> |> |>E-mail responses appreciated. Thanks, David Bradford |>dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Hi, I have an 040 NeXT as well, and I have been using an Exabyte EXB-8200 rev. 254J for about 3 months by now, using the SafetyNet.app backupsoftware, and it works like a charm, perfectly. I highly recommend SafetyNet, it really makes backup and restore a very simple job, and it even has an unattended scheduling feature, that allows you to customize your regular backup sessions, and have them dome overnight, while out or similar. I have mine do a regular backup of the whole system once a week, unattended, I just receive a mail, telling me that the backup was successfull, and then I switch the tape, and that is it! It creates an archive on your disk, which it uses for fast-searching through the files on your tapes, and it can find and start retrieving any of my files in a 1.3GB backup, in less than 60-70 seconds! And it s only 129$, through the Electronic AppWrapper! I tried using enTAR with it, but never really got it to work, and apart from that, enTAR doesn t allow you to restore individual files from a large backup, without having to search through the whole tape, which can be very time-consuming. If you have any questions, please don t hesitate to write me, my mailaddress is mentioned below. best regards Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) Subject: Re: Harddrive DSP3105 from DEC o.k. for NeXTstation? Message-ID: <1994Jun13.195328.4491@uriela.in-berlin.de> Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de Organization: NeXAPP References: <2thu2l$lip@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 19:53:28 GMT In article <2thu2l$lip@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel) writes: #I am considering to reuse a 1GB harddrive from DEC (model DSP3105 #presently used in a SunSparc) as internal disk for a NeXTstation. #My question: does anybody know wether this harddrive is supported, i.e. #can it be formatted by BuildDisk ? #Thanks in advance Werner # #-- It works fine for over a year now. (Half a year in a station and now in an cube.) so long *** perstoro *** BTW.: Do not formate it with 1024bytes/sektor, with 512, wich is default, everything works fine. -- ************************* NT == nice try ****************************** *| Wilhelm Schaefer| perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de | NeXTmail please! |* *| NeXT EnTHUSIAST | Voice +49 30 / 395 31 91 | FAX +49 30/39547 49|* ***********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Talus Wacom Driver...OOPS! Message-ID: <1994Jun12.165613.3338@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 16:56:13 GMT My apologies to those of you that have retrieved our Wacom tablet driver and found that you needed a registration number. I was unaware that this was the only version we had of this driver here in Houston. It's a three day weekend in Moscow and we'll have a version that doesn't require a serial number as soon as the staff is back in the office on Tuesday and we'll get it posted right away and notify you in this news group. This IS an Intel only version, unfortunately. We are, however, sending our source code to Chuck Fleming at Allegheny early this week and he will be modifying the code to work with black hardware as well. We'll let you know the second Chuck has that working....so please don't bug HIM...let him work :-)) I've been receiving emails asking whether Tiffany II supports pressure sensitivity. The answer is...I don't know. Perhaps someone from Benchmark would care to comment on this. If it doesn't currently support it, perhaps there's something we can do, source wise, to help them with it...it's a cool piece of software! We are only aware of two programs for NS that currently support pressure sensitivity, Virtuoso and Animo. Hopefully, more developers with take advantage of this feature now that they know it's working. Any developer that would like to implement this feature should contact me directly at: steve@talus.com Again, sorry for the inconvenience. We'll solve the problems as quickly as humanly possible. Steve Sarich III Talus Imaging steve@talus.com
From: robin2@garnet.berkeley.edu (Robin Chung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Video Card Problem Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:37:52 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <2t7ni0$6p0@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2t5118$k6c@boson.epita.fr> Eric, I believe your friend is having a problem because NFIP 3.2 only supports a limited variety of graphics boards. The Orchid VLB does not seem to be one of them. NeXTSTEP 3.2 supports the following boards to my knowledge... ATI Graphics Pro Ultra VLB #9GXE Level 11 or above VLB Diamond Viper VLB/PCI One of the Genoa boards, and a select *few* S3 based cards. You should call Next and confirm that they have drivers for the card you are looking to use. And even then, NeXT with their stupid Pay to Ask tech support policy is very short on answers. good luck. I am in the process of trying to sort through that maze and find a decent video card to run it on intel myself. -rob In article <2t5118$k6c@boson.epita.fr>, eric laurent <lauren_e@xenon.epita.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > A friend of mine recently bought NSFIP 3.2. > He uses an Orchid 's fahrenheit 1280 plus VLB > video card but fails to access to a resolution > higher than the poor vga... > > If someone knows how to configure it, please tell > me how ? > > Regards, > > Eric Laurent lauren_e@epita.fr > -- Robin Chung Jasmine is my Pearl White EX500 ==>> DSP Engineer / Mainframe Admin Haas School of Business / UC Berkeley work (510) 643 5923 .No officer, I am a biker, not a human being... ;-)
From: mikew@pencom.com (Michael E. Wren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will NeXTSTEP run on a Dell XPS P60 or Gateway Pentium Date: 13 Jun 1994 21:56:13 GMT Organization: Pencom Sofware Message-ID: <2tiklt$d72@digdug.pencom.com> Distribution: world Dell Machine: #9 GXE PCI Video (I may use another card). Adaptec 1542 SCSI and an external SCSI drive. (There are "rumors" of a non-NeXT certified 7870 controller driver coming out soon.) PCI Bus The Dell XPS-66V (486 chip) is a NeXTSTEP certified system. Gateway machine: Pentium - I don't know the model number. Diamond Viper PCI Video. IDE or SCSI drive.
From: student1@sea.Corp.Sun.COM (Pierce Hickey (student)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installation - HELP needed Date: 13 Jun 1994 22:51:37 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tintq$i3h@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> I'm trying to install NS for intel on an ISA 486DX. It has: Adaptec 1542-CF SCSI ATI graphics ULTRA video card Plextor DM-3028 CD-ROM IDE - 500 meg hard disk. When I try to install it locks on the "This program is for installing NEXTSTEP on a hard disk. .... answer some questions" screen. the last message from the install system before this happens is : "root on sd0 rootdev 600, howto 0" Also when I have todays date set it says: "WARNING:Preposterous time in RealTime Clock - CHECK AND RESET THE DATE" - then it resets the clock to November '93 I've installed every thing as per the nextanswers sheet,(default card config, with floopy interface off) but it still won't work. I've tried changing the SCSI id to 6 also, but still no dice. Anyone encountered something similar, or know what's wrong ? Thanks, Pierce Hickey (student1@sea.corp.sun.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) Subject: Re: Who's bought a Gekko already? In-Reply-To: scott@geom.umn.edu's message of Fri, 10 Jun 1994 02:45:52 GMT To: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) Message-ID: <CEDMAN.94Jun10104321@capitalist.princeton.edu> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Princeton University References: <ROBERT.94Jun2235223@steffi.demon.co.uk> <1994Jun6.081830.6579@urz.unibas.ch> <Cr5uEz.6C6@news.cis.umn.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 14:43:21 GMT In article <Cr5uEz.6C6@news.cis.umn.edu> scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) writes: We haven't had time to try to compile emacs, but it sure compiles everything else just like a NeXT, so I think you shouldn't be too worried. NS/HP does not compile Emacs for NS 4.0 (or any recent version of GNU Emacs). That is mainly due to some nasty things which GNU Emacs does and not necessarily the fault of NS/HP. However, Emacs for NS 4.03 (based on GNU Emacs 19.24) does compile and work under NS/HP. As far as I know it is the only version which does. Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: clasch@tallawe.lahn.de (Claus Schneeberger) Subject: Re: Fujitsu 2694 - Will it format ok? Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de Message-ID: <CrAwF3.7q@tallawe.lahn.de> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:18:38 GMT References: <1994Jun9.145704.17826@umiami.ir.miami.edu> Organization: Talladh-A-Bheithe therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu wrote: : I am thinking of buying a 1.2GB Fujitsu 2694 external : drive from a Mac supplier for use on my Intel GX : server (with DTP SCSI card - Yes I know about the : EATA bug!) running NeXTstep/Intel 3.2. : Is there any reason why the Fujitsu won't format and : work properly? Just checking - I do have an older : 520MB Fujitsu on an old cube but I have seen some : posts about problems formatting a few types of SCSI : disks and though I should check before buying. I am currently using the 2694 ESA (internal). It works perfectly together with my DPT 2022. No problems at all. Bye, Claus -- _ _ |\ | _ \ / | Claus Schneeberger | \ | (_) X | 63674 Altenstadt/ Hessen | \| \_ / \ | clasch@tallawe.lahn.de
From: lijf@fiu.edu (Jian-Fei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP WITH I/O PROBLEM Date: 14 Jun 1994 01:09:38 GMT Organization: Florida International Univeristy Message-ID: <2tj00i$qng@schema.fiu.edu> We are now doing some research on I/O simulation. We need more information about this area. Can any one please give us some information that can help me understand the following: . detailed operation of host adapter . detailed operation of disk controller . communication between disk controller and host adapter over SCSI . current trend of disk driver. We would also like information on specific products to use as examples to understand these issues. Your help will be greatly appreciated. We prefer your reply by email. Email Address: lijf@fiu.edu
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP POSSIBLE? Date: 14 Jun 1994 01:16:16 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <2tj0d0$hst@news1.digex.net> References: <damonc.17.2DFB694A@hookup.net> In article <damonc.17.2DFB694A@hookup.net> damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) writes: > Given a "fresh", standalone machine, install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it, > what are the steps to follow? Anybody have this working that could > post/upload the config files/etc? Since so many netters were able to help me with my problems I will do my best. First of all, do you have a network card? If you do, the basic thing to remember is you have to give an ethernet address to it. Here are the steps I followed to (finally) get the system working: Install the package. Make a copy of the default config and put it in the config directory named "pni0.config-auto" which will make it auto-run at boot. My file looks like this: ----- # # Pretty close to minimal configuration file for just plain SLIP using # a ZyXEL modem dialing into a Xylogics Annex SLIP servier. # # $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/config.slip,v 1.5 1994/05/16 02:31:20 louie Exp $ ## PART I. set Config(pni:INTERFACE) pni0 set Config(pni:MTU) 1006 set Config(pni:ADDRESS) 164.109.213.30 set Config(pni:REMOTEADDRESS) 164.109.201.3 set Config(pni:NETWORKMASK) 255.255.0.0 set Config(pni:DEFAULT) 1 set Config(slip:MODE) slip set Config(tty:DEVICE) /dev/cufb set Config(tty:SPEED) 57600 set Config(tty:MODEMTYPE) boca set Config(tty:SERVERTYPE) digex set Config(tty:SERVERNAME) DigitalExpress set Config(tty:NUMBER) 982-5658 set Config(SlipServerName:DIALTYPE) TONE set Config(CMD:password) "suck" set Config(callLog) "/usr/adm/pni.call-log" # PART II. stack PNI pni stack SLIP slip stack TTY tty # PART III. proc LINK_start { encap } { log "LINK $encap connected" } proc LINK_stop { encap } { log "LINK $encap disconnected" } ----- I created two new files for dialing and login. The dialer is based on the zyxel script, the login on the unix script. I dispensed with all the extraneous junk in the example scripts and boiled it down to the essestials (send a simple initilization string, login based on assumptions). Here is the login script without my account or password: ----- # Copyright 1993 by TransSys, Inc. # All rights reserved. # # $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/login-unix.tcl,v 1.7 1994/05/14 20:15:32 louie Exp $ # # # Login script for use when remote end is some sort of UNIX box that will # drop into SLIP mode. # proc login-digex { DIALER cfg } { syslog LOG_INFO "Start digex.net login script" $DIALER sleep 3 # Look for unix login prompt $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for login prompt"} "*ogin:*" # Send login poop $DIALER xmit "userid\r" $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for password"} "*assword:*" $DIALER sleep 1 $DIALER xmit "password\r" $DIALER sleep 2 set timeout 20 syslog LOG_INFO "Entering SLIP mode" # That's all return 1 } ----- Here is my dialer script: ----- # Copyright 1993 by TransSys, Inc. # All rights reserved. # # $Header: /local/SRCS/slip2/pnid/support/dial-zyxel.tcl,v 1.9 1993/11/23 04:46:34 louie Exp $ # # # TCL script used to configure and dial a ZyXEL U-1496-type # V.32bis external modem. # proc dial-boca { DIALER number cfg} { # # This script assumes that the zero'th argument is the dialer object # to be used, and the next argument be number to be dialed. # global Config testMode syslog LOG_INFO "$DIALER: Start of ZyXEL dialing script, dialing $number" set how TONE # flush any pending command $DIALER xmit {\r} $DIALER sleep 1 # get modems attention set timeout 2 foreach i {once} { $DIALER xmit {AT&F0\r} $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {} $DIALER xmit {+++} $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {} $DIALER xmit {ATH\r} $DIALER expect "{*OK\r*}" break timeout {} error "Could not get the modem's attention" } set timeout 5 # turn off command echo $DIALER xmit {ATE0\r} $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for OK"} "*OK*" $DIALER sleep 1 $DIALER xmit "AT&F0\r" $DIALER expect timeout {error "waiting for OK for parm $s"} \ "{*ERROR\r*}" {warn "Modem returned ERROR setting $s"} \ "{*OK*}" # dial the phone notice "Dialing $number ..." $DIALER xmit "ATDT$number\r" # wait for connect message set timeout 60 set rng 0 while 1 { $DIALER rexpect \ timeout { error "Timeout waiting for modem to connect to $number "} \ "(CONNECT.*)\r+\n" { syslog LOG_INFO "Connected: $dialer_expect_out(1,string)"; \ break \ } \ "\r\nERROR\r\n" {error "Modem returned ERROR"} \ "\r\nRINGING\r\n" {syslog LOG_INFO "Ringing.. ($rng)"; incr rng} \ "\r\nNO CARRIER\r" {error "Modem returned NO CARRIER"} \ "\r\nNO DIAL TONE\r" {error "Modem returned NO DIAL TONE"} \ "\r\nBUSY\r\n" {error "Remote modem busy"} } } ----- Next you use hostmanager to set your host and mail and gateway accounts. For me I created a host called "clubside" with an alias of "clubside.digex.net" at my internet address. I created one called pm1.digex.net with my default gateway's ipaddress. Next I created one called mailhost with my SMTP sender's ipaddress. Lastly, I chose "local" and set my local domain to clubside, and set a manual internet address (I chose some library is Switzerland's ip number figuring I'll never need that). It will then ask you to restart based on your changes and everything should be fine. The only caveat here is that if you have no ethernet card, you have to manually edit /etc/hostconfig and enter -NO- for all the entries except the first, default domain. Hope this helps! Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) Subject: Re: Talus Wacom Driver...OOPS! Message-ID: <bchin.771547929@news.andi.org> Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International References: <1994Jun12.165613.3338@talus.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:52:09 GMT talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: >We are only aware of two programs for NS that currently support pressure >sensitivity, Virtuoso and Animo. Unter Ecker Software's Compose In Color also supports pressure sensitivity. ..Bill Chin -- Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: jjdtech@delphi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installation - HELP needed Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 23:54:21 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <Rc4vnXt.jjdtech@delphi.com> References: <2tintq$i3h@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> Pierce, Try setting the controller to id 7. Hard drive to id 0. Make sure you have proper termination on both devices. Remove any other peripherals from the SCSI(except cd-rom) Set CD-Rom to id 2. No termination on CD. If this doesn't work (it still won't load) try loading DOS to make sure you don't have a hardware problem that has nothing to do with NeXT. The date problem happens to me also when the machine is powered off for several days at a time. Good luck, I hope this helps!! JJDTECH@access.digex.com John J. Donegan
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Harddrive DSP3105 from DEC o.k. for NeXTstation? Date: 13 Jun 1994 20:56:24 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA Message-ID: <2tj9p8$19n@spock.dis.cccd.edu> References: <2thu2l$lip@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <1994Jun13.195328.4491@uriela.in-berlin.de> Mine ran quite hot so I took it out and put it in an external box. maurices
From: lasernet@vnet.net (Andy McIntyre (Skydaddy)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Used Next Hardware Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 14 Jun 1994 04:03:51 GMT Organization: Lasernet Message-ID: <lasernet-140694000551@lasernet.vnet.net> I would like to find some information on mail-order (or other sources) where one could purchase a "used" Next machine. Please e-mail me privately. Thanks, Andy McIntyre lasernet@vnet.net
From: delman@mipg.upenn.edu (Delman Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Composite or separate H/V syncs on an RGB monitors?? Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Date: 14 Jun 1994 04:52:03 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania, USA. Distribution: world Message-ID: <DELMAN.94Jun14005204@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu> Keywords: RGB, sync, horizontal sync, vertical sync, refresh rate Hi! I got hold of a monitor with RGB inputs (on BNC connectors). It has two more BNC connectors, one labelled H/V, the other V. I assume one is horizontal sync and the other vertical. But it looks like it's possible to have a composite H and V syncs on the H/V socket. Could someone tell me how does the composite usually work? I am going to attach the monitor to a VGA card, assuming the sync rates are correct, do I use the composite H/V sync or the separate H and V syncs? Please reply by email. Thanks in advance. Delman. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Delman Lee Tel.: +1-215-662-6780 Medical Image Processing Group, Fax.: +1-215-898-9145 University of Pennsylvania, 4/F Blockley Hall, 423 Guardian Drive, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021, U.S.A.. Internet: delman@mipg.upenn.edu ______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: phillip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) Subject: Re: Help! My machine is a deaf mute... Message-ID: <CrDGqq.KG3@utstat.toronto.edu> Keywords: Sound Intel Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics References: <2t4tum$gqg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <2t63vc$bgs@news1.digex.net> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 05:32:50 GMT In article <2t63vc$bgs@news1.digex.net> Scott_Bender@harmony.digex.net writes: [ ] >I use the Adaptech card with the ATI GUP and was not able to use the >PAS 16 either. After trying many different cards I settled on the >SoundBlaster16 Basic. Although the driver isn't perfect, I do get sound. >The driver is available somewhere on cs.orst.edu The driver won't work for ISA systems. It would appear to me that the WSS or better yet, the Audiotrix Pro from Mediatrix would do the job. -- Philip McDunnough OR P. McDunnough (U of Toronto-stats) philip@utstat.toronto.edu (NeXT Mail) phillip@utstat.toronto.edu [Where sheep may safely graze...] [Where sheep bite...]
From: rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Upgrading Black to 3.2 from CDRom Date: 14 Jun 1994 01:37:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2tjflt$b6c@search01.news.aol.com> How do I get my NeXT Station Color internal hard drive upgraded from version 3.0 to 3.2? The floppy upgrade disk appears to be only for intel hardware. The install manual talks about making a bootable floppy using "/usr/etc/ blah blah...." But when I use it to startup, it hangs after the 'looking for cdrom drive' and 'load fails' message. The hard drive is SCSI 1 and the CDRom drive is SCSI 0. Any hints gratefully accepted. I had no trouble getting the NS 3.0 to tranfer to the hard drive as it generated a new system. Rod Willard
From: rueiwun@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (ruei-wun tu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Question]:Floppy Controller error during boot NS/FIP??? Date: 14 Jun 1994 06:02:10 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson Message-ID: <2tjh52$p9b@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> References: <ROBERT.94Jun2235223@steffi.demon.co.uk> <2smk56$70l@vishnu.jussieu.fr> Hello, First of all, thank you for your time to answer my question I finally got my NS3.2 installed on my TYAN motherboard. Here is what I did. I only put one SCSI HD, which is on ID 0, and SCSI CD ROM, which is on SCSI ID 1. And I also put on my AHA 1542C and ATI Ultra Graphic Pro 2M, and, of course the IDE controller, which is used for my Floppy. It works without any problem. However, I found two serious problems after I finished the installation. 1. When I add my IDE HD latter on, the NS could not recognize the device. I could not mount it or use "fdisk" to format the IDE. 2. When booting the system. if I didn't insert the floopy disk in floppy driver, it shows the following warning message several times: FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:Stray Interrupt After all, the system still boot successfully. And the floppy disk functionarity seems working O.K. Anyway, I am wondering if you have any ideals could solve those annoying problems. Thanks again for your help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [intel] Q: Microsoft Bus Mouse under NSI 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Jun13.233451.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 07:34:51 GMT I have a question about using a _bus_ mouse under NSFIP 3.2. In 1360_Mouse_Support, it says that while the Logitech bus mouse is supported, the Microsoft bus mouse is not. The doc says, "NEXTSTEP does not support the Microsoft Bus Mouse because the specifications to the mouse are proprietary. Microsoft will not give them out or publish them." However, under Windoze the Logitech bus mouse works fine with the Microsoft mouse driver so one might think the two mice would be (almost) interchangeable. My question is, has anyone actually tried using a Microsoft Bus Mouse under NSFIP 3,2. If so, did it definitely NOT work, almost work, or work just fine? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks, Ken -- Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX) Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: jimra@aol.com (JimRA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will NeXTSTEP run on a Dell XPS P60 or Gateway Pentium Date: 14 Jun 1994 04:47:01 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2tjqq5$ern@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2tiklt$d72@digdug.pencom.com> In article <2tiklt$d72@digdug.pencom.com>, mikew@pencom.com (Michael E. Wren) writes: Dell Machine: #9 GXE PCI Video (I may use another card). Adaptec 1542 SCSI and an external SCSI drive. (There are "rumors" of a non-NeXT certified 7870 controller driver coming out soon.) PCI Bus The Dell XPS-66V (486 chip) is a NeXTSTEP certified system. Gateway machine: Pentium - I don't know the model number. Diamond Viper PCI Video. IDE or SCSI drive. ------- Yep, I'm running on an XPS-60 now and have no problems. Be sure to order exactly the stuff you want though, or you may have to play musical cards. Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: Re: Wacom tablets advice sought (found : -) Message-ID: <1994Jun14.132140.9431@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <CrAE9D.6zA@number_one.apana.org.au> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:21:40 GMT In article <CrAE9D.6zA@number_one.apana.org.au> nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole Kaiyan) writes: > As the original poster asked, does a Wacom pressure-sensitive tablet driver > exist for NeXTSTEP for NeXT computers, and if so, how does it connect to the > NeXT computer? > -- > _ The driver doesn't currently work on black hardware, but we're turning over our source code to Chuck Flemming and he'll work on a black version and post here to let everyone know when it's complete. It connects via the com port. Steve Sarich III Talus Imaging steve@talus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) Subject: RE: support Message-ID: <1994Jun14.155814.9904@talus.com> Sender: steve@talus.com Organization: Talus Corporation References: <9406131321.AA02942@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 15:58:14 GMT In article <9406131321.AA02942@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> Stanislaw Stefanowski <staszek@next.elka.pg.gda.pl> writes: > I have two questions bothering me: > 1. Has the NeXTStep a video card support working on PCI bus? Yes, Talus currently has an ATI Mach 32 PCI video driver shipping and "others" in the pipeline. > 2. Has the NeXTStep a SCSI controller support working on PCI bus already? Yes, Talus currently has drivers for the NCR 53C810, 820 & 825 (fast & wide SCSI) and we'll be bundling add-on boards with our NCR drivers for those who don't have the NCR on-board. "Other" SCSI options are also under development. > Any information will be appreciated. NeXT currently has NO PCI SCSI or video drivers available, but we expect that they will "announce" some in the future. Steve Sarich III President Talus Imaging steve@talus.com
From: trestrai@news.delphi.com (TRESTRAIL@DELPHI.COM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will this hardware work with NeXT? Date: 10 Jun 1994 22:32:50 -0000 Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Message-ID: <2tapmi$bf4@news.delphi.com> References: <Joel-Bussey.2.01433FCE@uoknor.edu> Joel-Bussey@uoknor.edu (Joel Bussey) writes: > I am considering using a Gateway 2000, model 4DX2-66E (it's a 486DX2, 66 >MHz). I have been told that any system not on the compatibility guide will >not work with NeXT. Is this true or could I probably get NeXT to load on the >machine? Some systems not listed in the compatability guide _do_ work (I use one), but NeXT will not give support. If you already have a copy of NS you should give it a try. I believe there was/is a mailing list for Gateway NS users, but unfortunately I don't have the address for it. Perhaps someone else with a better memory than mine can supply it. Regards, Jeff trestrail@delphi.com
From: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSFIP: Driver for Accton (NE2000) Ethernet Card? Message-ID: <8106@darmstadt.gmd.de> Date: 15 Jun 94 14:08:29 GMT References: <39643@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Sender: hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de Organization: German National Research Centre for Information Technology David R. Quarrie (quarrie@darth.lbl.gov) wrote: >I've inherited an Accton "MultiPacket Accelerator Adapter" ISA Ethernet >Adapter. It's claimed to be compatible with the "industry-standard NE2000". >I believe that's a Novell adapter. >Anyone got any idea whether there's a NSFIP driver for this? It certainly >doesn't appear in the latest Hardware Compatibility Guide, but is there a 3rd >party driver for it? There's a driver for NE2000 clown cards on the archives, I just checked ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/i486/ethernet, it's called '3.2_Ethernet_Driver_NEx.000.*'. It should be on cs.orst.edu, too. Please note that not all NE2000 cards are 100% compatible with each other ! You'll be much better off buying an Intel EtherExpress. Plug it in, install the driver, it works. Hope this helps ! Holger -- Holger Hoffstaette, GMD-IPSI/PaVE (hoff@darmstadt.gmd.de) Smalltalker, NeXTstepper, Amiga veteran, Net citizen. "I'm gonna get myself connected.." - Stereo MC's
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Determining if a cube power supply is bad... Date: 15 Jun 1994 10:39:56 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2tn3rs$q4q@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver I recently posted that my cube would not boot and that my hard disk made a repeated clicking noise at boot time. I got a bunch of good replies which agreed that I should first suspect that my hard disk's power supply is being interfered with in some way (say the power supply being bad or the backplane connection being bad). Last night I took the machine completely apart, cleaned all the contacts with contact cleaner (including the power supply's connection to the backplane), dusted everything else, and put it back together. The boot problem still occurs, now consistently. This probably strenghtens the evidence that my power supply has been going bad. However, I'm not sure, since power is certainly getting to all the components, including the hard disk. Furthermore, the voltages at the hard disk's power connector check out ok with the multimeter. So the big question is: Is there a do-it-at-home way that I can confirm a problem with my power supply without having to take it to a professional? If I had a second machine, it would be a simple matter of swapping components to figure out which was bad, but I'm not aware of any way I can get my hands on a second machine to do that with. I'm reluctant to spend money on a new power supply if I don't need to. Thanks, DR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Two EISA Cards -- Can they coth be there Message-ID: <1994Jun15.150805.664@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 15:08:05 GMT I thought that I had heard somewhere back that NEXTSTEP could only have one EISA card in a machine. I have an EISA machine with an EISA ATI GUP ISA Adaptek 1542c ISA PAS 16 Intel Ethernet card I would like to fing out if I can install the Cogent EISA to replace the Intel. If you know anything about this, let me know. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) Subject: AHA interrupt: bad status 14 Message-ID: <Cr86pG.4A9@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> Keywords: Adaptek 1542C controller Organization: VE6MGS Gateway Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:08:01 GMT 486/66DXII, Adaptek 1542C controller, updated 1542B driver from nextanswers, SerialPorts driver for COM1 mouse, Mux driver for COM2, and a DigiBoard 4 port card. ATI Ultra Pro, ProAudio Spectrum 16 and a currently installed but disabled Intel Ethernet Express 16 (was configured, but will remove card after news batches subside over the weekend to test out if this is a latent cause). I notice the following error message coming up: AHA interrupt: bad status 14 followed by a Read Error notification, and a SCSI bus reset. The error message occurs about 15 times a day now. It sometimes causes a system reboot I believe (I had uptimes in the order of 3 weeks, now I am lucky to get more than a day and a half). I am curious what this error message means, since it would help me isolate which of the many recent changes has triggered this problem. I expect that the following recent changes could be responsible (in order): - An external 320MB drive added to my cluster, problem started occuring a week after adding the drive. - I suspect an internal 310MB drive is at fault, maybe, since if the above problem causes a reboot (hence no report in /usr/adm/messages to tell me such if even that above message occurs), that internal drive requires a *lot* of fsck -y repair work. I have placed an internal fan on the drive to stir the air and keep it cool ... - Ethernet card was added about 2 weeks before problem started occuring. Card *could* have swayed from it's configuration ... - Added three more dedicated phone lines, with a pair of USR Courier V.FC 28800 to accompany the existing two USR 14400 Sportsters. All lines communicating at 38400 (this less likely, because I had the error occur while the lines were quiesent). Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: Any recommendations for 3.5" MODs? Message-ID: <1994Jun11.093656.19254@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <Cr1vFJ.Ht@euler.hnv.icem.de> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 09:36:56 GMT js@euler.hnv.icem.de(Juergen Sell) writes: >I want to buy a 3.5" MOD, 128MB or 230MB (not yet decided). >Which ones do work with black hardware? >What measures have to be taken to get things functional, if any? >Is the speed bearable? >Comments? It is well known that the Fujitsu 2511 (128Mb) didn't work with black hardware. Does anybody know if the new 2512 (230Mb) is working with NeXTstations? Who has info about a new IBM 230Mb MO-drive, I heard about. Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: otto@rumba.ECE.ORST.EDU (Otto A. Gygax) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing from NS-Intel to HP LaserJet IIID w/PS cartridge Date: 15 Jun 1994 18:14:27 GMT Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University Message-ID: <2tnge3INNjno@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Keywords: Postscript, printing I have encountered a rather mysterious problem with printing to an HP Laserjet IIID with postscript castridge. The system is a 486-based PARS computer running NS 3.2. The printer is connected to the printer port. NS knows about this printer and will give you all the options to select trays (upper or lower), duplex, etc. However, Edit can only print to the upper tray and WordPerfect (Mar 1994's release) won't print at all. The error message I get is something about a psize error, stack 0 or 1, depending if it's the upper or lower tray, respectively. FYI, the computer will print to the printer just fine from DOS on the same machine (it has a dual partition). Any information or suggestions will be appreciated. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Otto Gygax, System Administrator/Instructor Oregon State University Electrical and Computer Engineering Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu
From: otto@rumba.ECE.ORST.EDU (Otto A. Gygax) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing from NS-Intel to HP LaserJet IIID w/PS cartridge Date: 15 Jun 1994 18:14:47 GMT Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University Message-ID: <2tngenINNjnu@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Keywords: Postscript, printing I have encountered a rather mysterious problem with printing to an HP Laserjet IIID with postscript castridge. The system is a 486-based PARS computer running NS 3.2. The printer is connected to the printer port. NS knows about this printer and will give you all the options to select trays (upper or lower), duplex, etc. However, Edit can only print to the upper tray and WordPerfect (Mar 1994's release) won't print at all. The error message I get is something about a psize error, stack 0 or 1, depending if it's the upper or lower tray, respectively. FYI, the computer will print to the printer just fine from DOS on the same machine (it has a dual partition). Any information or suggestions will be appreciated. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Otto Gygax, System Administrator/Instructor Oregon State University Electrical and Computer Engineering Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu
From: otto@rumba.ECE.ORST.EDU (Otto A. Gygax) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing from NS-Intel to HP LaserJet IIID w/PS cartridge Date: 15 Jun 1994 18:16:22 GMT Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University Message-ID: <2tnghmINNjup@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Keywords: Postscript, printing I have encountered a rather mysterious problem with printing to an HP Laserjet IIID with postscript castridge. The system is a 486-based PARS computer running NS 3.2. The printer is connected to the printer port. NS knows about this printer and will give you all the options to select trays (upper or lower), duplex, etc. However, Edit can only print to the upper tray and WordPerfect (Mar 1994's release) won't print at all. The error message I get is something about a psize error, stack 0 or 1, depending if it's the upper or lower tray, respectively. FYI, the computer will print to the printer just fine from DOS on the same machine (it has a dual partition). Any information or suggestions will be appreciated. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Otto Gygax, System Administrator/Instructor Oregon State University Electrical and Computer Engineering Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu
From: otto@rumba.ECE.ORST.EDU (Otto A. Gygax) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: printing problems from NS-Intel Date: 15 Jun 1994 18:17:13 GMT Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University Message-ID: <2tngj9INNjv2@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> I have encountered a rather mysterious problem with printing to an HP Laserjet IIID with postscript castridge. The system is a 486-based PARS computer running NS 3.2. The printer is connected to the printer port. NS knows about this printer and will give you all the options to select trays (upper or lower), duplex, etc. However, Edit can only print to the upper tray and WordPerfect (Mar 1994's release) won't print at all. The error message I get is something about a psize error, stack 0 or 1, depending if it's the upper or lower tray, respectively. FYI, the computer will print to the printer just fine from DOS on the same machine (it has a dual partition). Any information or suggestions will be appreciated. -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Otto Gygax, System Administrator/Instructor Oregon State University Electrical and Computer Engineering Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Otto Gygax, System Administrator/Instructor Oregon State University Electrical and Computer Engineering Internet E-mail: otto@ece.orst.edu
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two EISA Cards -- Can they coth be there Date: 15 Jun 1994 18:43:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <2tni3q$jfg@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <1994Jun15.150805.664@weston.com> In article <1994Jun15.150805.664@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > I thought that I had heard somewhere back that NEXTSTEP could only have > one EISA card in a machine. We've EISA-only DEC 'st' machines with EISA display cards, EISA SCSI boards and EISA Ethernet boards. (And ISA sound boards.) I wouldn't worry about adding multiple EISA cards under NEXTSTEP as long as you've compatible drivers. - Christopher
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does any removeable 128 optical or Syquest drive work with Next Black? Date: 11 Jun 1994 20:51:34 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <2td84m$2rd@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1994Jun7.223828.9065@iitmax.iit.edu> thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley) writes: > I would like to get a removeable cartridge drive for my two Nexts > and now (because I have Daydream), my two Macs. > > Does any 128 MO, say the APS or ClubMac work with NeXTSTEP? The > same question for 270MB Syquests? > > Any info would be appreciated. I assume you have NeXTstations, and not NS/Intel boxes. Watch out for mechanisms based on the Fijitsu "DynaMO" or the Pinnacle "Tahoe" drives. These are in fact the exact same mechanism, and as near as I could ever tell it is not possible to get these to work with NeXT hardware. I am told that they will work with Intel-based hardware running NS/Intel. I don't think I've ever ordered from ClubMac. I have ordered from APS, they seem to be a fine company. In any case, no matter who you order from you should try and make sure you have a 30-day grace period where you can ship the drive back if it doesn't work. The MO drive I have, which works on both Macs and NeXT hardware, is a Pinnacle PMO-130 drive. It is a very nice drive, with two drawbacks: 1) it was a bit expensive ($1400, if I remember right), and 2) they don't make them any more... (I bought this a year or two ago). I would recommend that you try ordering from one of two companies: Radiant Technologies = 303-331-3117, you might want to ask for Steven Collins. This is where I ordered my drive from. They do know about NeXTstations (or at least Steven did). I don't know if they have any current MO drives that would work on NeXT hardware. Liberty Systems - 408-983-1127. I know they used to know about NeXT hardware, and I called them up recently and they still claim to know about it. I have a friend who got a drive from them for his NeXTstation (about four years ago), and he's been happy with it. The other thing to think about here is that the 230-meg MO drives are now starting to show up. Same size cartridge as used for the 128-meg MO drives, but they hold more. The 230-meg MO drives also support the 128-meg MO cartridges, if you want to use those for compatability with some other drives. When playing with NeXTSTEP, the extra 90 meg (or whatever you have by the time you play around with formatting) would probably be quite useful. You might also want to call up dealers who are particularly active in Intel hardware for NeXTSTEP, and see what they have to say. Companies like Alpine or Paradigm Shift might have some ideas about MO drives, for instance. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading Black to 3.2 from CDRom Date: 15 Jun 1994 21:27:46 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2tnroi$28h@rosie.next.com> References: <2tjflt$b6c@search01.news.aol.com> In article <2tjflt$b6c@search01.news.aol.com> rwillard@aol.com (Rwillard) writes: :How do I get my NeXT Station Color internal hard drive upgraded from :version 3.0 to 3.2? The floppy upgrade disk appears to be only for :intel hardware. The install manual talks about making a bootable :floppy using "/usr/etc/ blah blah...." : But when I use it to startup, it hangs after the 'looking for :cdrom drive' and 'load fails' message. : The hard drive is SCSI 1 and the CDRom drive is SCSI 0. :Any hints gratefully accepted. I had no trouble getting the NS 3.0 :to tranfer to the hard drive as it generated a new system. If you're doing an upgrade, you don't want to boot from the CD-ROM, since doing so starts the process to perform an installation from scratch. Therefore, you should change your CD-ROM ID from 0 to 2 or higher. Then you can boot from your hard disk and use Upgrader.app from the CD-ROM according to the documentation. Although you shouldn't need to use the floppy, your statement about it being for Intel only worries me a bit. Make sure your CD-ROM reads "For NeXT Computers." Hope this helps! Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support
From: raram@aol.com (RaRAM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1mb-30pin SIMMs for sale Date: 15 Jun 1994 17:38:03 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2tnsbr$dr2@search01.news.aol.com> 1mb-30pin SIMMs for sale: Qty Config Speed drams/simm Manuf $ Each Totals 12 1 x 8 60ns 2 SAM 30.00 360.00 9 256 x 32 70 8 Fuj 30.00 270.00 10 1 x 9 70 3 Gold/OKI 34.00 340.00 3 1 x 8 70 2 Hit/SAM 28.00 84.00 35 256 x 32 70 8 Major 30.00 1050.00 4 256 x 36 80 12 Major 31.75 127.00 4 256 x 32 80 8 Fuj/NMB 28.00 112.00 3 1 x 8 80 2 Hit 28.00 84.00 Pulls, like new. If interested, contact Shane Corliss 603-641-6599 or e-mail RaRam@aol.com
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two EISA Cards -- Can they coth be there Date: 15 Jun 1994 22:16:43 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tnukbINNhqq@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <1994Jun15.150805.664@weston.com> <2tni3q$jfg@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> In article <1994Jun15.150805.664@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > I thought that I had heard somewhere back that NEXTSTEP could only have > one EISA card in a machine. The limitation has to do with bus-mastering _ISA_ boards. The EISA spec incorporates fairly robust arbitration and auto-configuration schemes, and generally isn't very vulnerable to fratricidal behavior by peripherals. It goes without saying that an EISA periphral which doesn't properly implement the spec can really screw things up, but that's true for just about any expansion bus... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard... H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "John Lacey" <johnl@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Replacing an NeXTstation int. HD Message-ID: <1994Jun11.215319.25427@news.cs.indiana.edu> Sender: root@news.cs.indiana.edu (Operator) Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 16:53:14 -0500 Can I replace the internal hard drive of a black slab? Do I have to buy something special, or can i buy a random internal SCSI drive? Or do i buy a random drive and salvage parts from the existing drive? John L
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Summary: [intel] Q: Microsoft Bus Mouse under NSI 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Jun15.153831.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <1994Jun13.233451.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:38:31 GMT A couple of days ago, I asked: > My question is, has anyone actually tried using a Microsoft Bus > Mouse under NSFIP 3,2. If so, did it definitely NOT work, almost > work, or work just fine? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks to: Bill Dudney <Dudney_Bill@pcp.ca> John Soward <soward@inslab.uky.edu> Jerry D. Pierce <jdpierc@netcom.com> for their responses. The consensus was that it WON'T WORK. :-( The most definitive answer was Jerry's: Yes, I unfortunately can answer this query. I tried to get a Microsoft bus mouse to work last weekend, and had to retreat back to a serial mouse. Even though the IRQ is set correctly, and the bus mouse works on the same box with DOS, Nextstep won't initialize it. ... So today, I went down to Fry's and plunked down $70 for a Logitech Bus Mouse. It's just that I had the spare MS bus mouse sitting on the shelf, otherwise, no big deal. -Ken -- Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX) Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: rueiwun@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (ruei-wun tu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question: Anyone use TYAN EISA/VL bus motherboard for NS 3.2??? Date: 11 Jun 1994 22:32:24 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson Message-ID: <2tde1o$d7r@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Hello, Does anyone use TYAN EISA/VL bus motherboard to install NS 3.2 successfully. I bought this motherboard and never get my NS 3.2 to install on it. It always stop in the middle way of the installation process (when the installation graph chart are shown and start copy some sort of files into HD). Sometimes it even stopped in the booting process. I also have Adatpec 1542c and ATI Ultra graphic pro 2MB VL. The chipset on that motherboard is made by "SiS". Any suggestions welcome... RW Tu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) Subject: Canon Intel Box Surprise at EXPO? Message-ID: <thompsonCrGo0u.Bvp@netcom.com> Organization: Saperstein, et al. Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:02:53 GMT Someone posted they had seen the new Canon Intel box, and that it was on par with a Gecko. That was interesting, but provided little detail. Today I got the weirdest ad in the mail, from Canon. It is about 5"x5", made out of cardboard, and 3 "pages" long. Page 1: The Object Is Objects. Page 2: The First Intel-Based Personal Workstation, Designed From The Ground Up, To Run NEXTSTEP. Page 3: Booth 624 -- NEXTSTEP Expo -- Canon It uses "NeXT colors" too (tan/black/green) as the background of each of the pages. My interest is piqued, to say the least :) Eric thompson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Drivers, Drivers Drivers... ATi GPT/PCI & Adaptec 2940 Message-ID: <schwettCrGo24.LuF@netcom.com> Summary: When are these going to exist? Keywords: drivers scsi ATi Adaptecc Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:03:37 GMT Hi all... Does anybody in the know have any idea when the drivers for ATi's Graphics Pro Turbo will be released? The NeXTStep compatibility guide simply says "planned..." And while I'm at it, what about Adaptec's 2940 PCI SCSI Adapter? Thanks! Mark Schwettmann schwett@netcom.com, schwett@soda.berkeley.edu
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: support Date: 15 Jun 1994 23:12:35 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2to1t3$2c9@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Jun14.155814.9904@talus.com> In article <1994Jun14.155814.9904@talus.com> talus.com!steve (Steve Sarich III) writes: :NeXT currently has NO PCI SCSI or video drivers available, but we expect :that they will "announce" some in the future. Not quite true. Give us credit for the Diamond Viper driver, at least! Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bnh@active (Brian Hess) Subject: Re: [intel] Q: Microsoft Bus Mouse under NSI 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Jun15.210220.9217@nntpxfer.psi.com> Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com Organization: Performance Systems Int'l References: <1994Jun13.233451.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 21:02:20 GMT fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu wrote: : My question is, has anyone actually tried using a Microsoft Bus : Mouse under NSFIP 3,2. If so, did it definitely NOT work, almost : work, or work just fine? Any feedback would be appreciated. Yes, I have tried it. No, it definitely does not work (not at all). (Now for the caveat: It definitely does not work with the current bus mouse boards. But *IF* you happen to have one of the *original* Microsoft mice with its bus board, it will work because that is what the Logitech design (and others) were first copied from. You can identify that mouse board because it does not have the current round connector on it, or by the fact that if you have a mouse that old, it has narrow buttons which squeak when you push them! How mouse-like, huh? To restate, not the current hand-shaped mouse, not the previous dove-bar-shaped mouse with wide buttons, but the original two-toned greige-colored one.) Brian Hess Active Ingredients, Inc. bnh@active.com
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can anyone send me miro 16si driver by NeXTmail Date: 16 Jun 1994 01:40:43 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <2toair$77u@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Hi, I heard that miro put their 16si driver on there BBS (415)-855-9944. I locate in Taiwan so I don't know how to access it. Could anyone do me a favour? Please download the driver and send me by NeXTmail to tchuang@cube.ep.nctu.edu.tw Thanks a lot TC
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Open Letter to Next Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:24:25 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Distribution: world Message-ID: <2t7mop$lpk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <Cr3qKy.2v4@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> Terry Wilcox writes > Terry Sikes writes > In article <dellis-020694181142@bellevue-ip3.halcyon.com>, > David L. Ellis <dellis@halcyon.com> wrote: > >>I would just like to make my voice heard on the subject of Next's > >>treatment of Talus. I do not know all the details and circumstances > >>existing in this relationship, but I do know that Next has a > > >I wanted to chime in along the same lines and state that although > >I'm not presently an NS user, I'll be evaluating it soon. NeXT's > >handling of this matter is giving me serious second thoughts as to > >whether or not I want to get involved with their products, regardless > > Whenever I see this kind of response, the first thing that pops to > mind is: what exactly is NeXT's treatment of Talus? While these are all interesting viewpoints, they do NOT belong in hardware. They belong in advocacy, under the "NeXT Certified System and Driver Policy" thread. For the record, the main bone of contention seems to center around coordinating efforts (vs. stepping on each others toes). See you in advocacy, -- Ernie P. -- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu) CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus' sake." - II Cor 4:5b #import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: eddie@xexos.com (Eddie Chan) Subject: SCSI driver for Future Domain SCSI Controller Message-ID: <CrG52s.4zv@xexos.com> Keywords: scsi Sender: usenet@xexos.com Organization: Xexos Ltd (London) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 16:13:39 GMT -- Xexos Limited e-mail: eddie@xexos.com +44-71-237-4535 eddie@boston.demon.co.uk [NeXT Mail Accepted at: eddie@xexos.com]
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color Monitor Recommendations Sought (M68k) Date: 15 Jun 1994 20:52:39 -0700 Organization: runner Message-ID: <2toia7$4vq@runner.uucp> Keywords: monitor color My NeXTStation Color monitor's picture width is shrinking, so I am looking for a new 17" color monitor. Any experience, recommendations or tips on buying a replacement monitor for black hardware would be appreciated. (I am currently thinking of purchasing an IBM 17P - anyone use one of these?) Thanks. --- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail) ps. should I try to have Bell Atlantic or someone repair the old NeXT monitor? -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: juan@ logician.com (Juan Pineda) Subject: od0?: drive command failed (busy timeout #1) block 0 phys block -66384 (0:0:0) Message-ID: <CrH6uu.At@logician.com> Sender: juan@logician.com (Juan Pineda) Organization: logician.com Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 05:49:40 GMT Hi, The optical disk in my cube recently stopped working, and the following message appears in the console when I insert a disk: od0?: drive command failed (busy timeout #1) block 0 phys block -66384 (0:0:0) Does anyone out there know if there is any cure, like cleaning the mechanism, or is the only cure to get a new drive? If you have any information, please respond by Email. Thanks, Juan Pineda juan@logician.com
From: djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone installed a Seagate drive in a cube? Date: 16 Jun 94 01:32:12 Organization: I sell snails and something else to dead widows Message-ID: <DJOHNSON.94Jun16013212@cayenne.gac.edu> References: <2tadrb$2q3v@argo.unm.edu> <2tdmru$mjo@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <940611222750.3275AAC6K.info@barkley> <2tglk3$151u@argo.unm.edu> In-reply-to: klingler@unm.edu's message of 12 Jun 1994 22:00:03 -0600 In article <2tglk3$151u@argo.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) writes: .Thanks, Dave and Chip. Actually, I called the hotline AND looked in my manual, .but I still don't have things quite working the way they should. I tried .running the drive with jumpers set both to power only the drive terminators and .to power them off the SCSI buss, but every time I think I've got it the drive .begins to get sense errors at some point. Can you tell me exactly how you had .your other jumpers configured? I pulled this drive out of my Indigo 2, and .I've begun to realize that the two configurations are pretty wildly different. Hullo. I just installed a nice new ST31200N into my cube w' more than a little difficulty. I tried just about every semi-logical jumper combination I could, and nothing worked. (It didn't help that the manual for the drive contained a fatal semantic error in the jumper-setting instructions.) Anyway after much hair pulling I discovered that the optical drive was somehow preventing the computer from remembering that it had successfully recognised the new drive (giving me scads of variations on "SCSI error"). So I disconnected the OD and everything worked fine. I formatted the drive, installed NS, plugged the OD back in, and now my computer's life is very good. (credit, btw, goes to the friendly people at Bell Atlantic, who figured out what was wrong with about the worst and shortest description of the symptoms that I can imagine) I dunno if any of this applies to you, but hey. Good luck! --Dan
From: otto@rumba.ece.orst.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printing from NS-Intel to HP LaserJet IIID w/PS cartridge...oops Date: 15 Jun 94 13:46:57 Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University Distribution: fj Message-ID: <otto.94Jun15134657@rumba> References: <2tnghmINNjup@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sorry folks for the repeated postings. Kept getting a "posting failed" message and didn't know it was actually going through. -otto
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton) Subject: Re: [intel] Q: Microsoft Bus Mouse under NSI 3.2? Message-ID: <1994Jun16.024353.11442@trilithon.com> Sender: henry@trilithon.com Organization: Trilithon Software References: <1994Jun13.233451.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 02:43:53 GMT In article <1994Jun13.233451.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes: have a question about using a _bus_ mouse under NSFIP 3.2. * In 1360_Mouse_Support, it says that while the Logitech bus * mouse is supported, the Microsoft bus mouse is not. The * doc says, "NEXTSTEP does not support the Microsoft Bus Mouse because the specifications to the mouse are proprietary. Microsoft will not give them out or publish them." * However, under Windoze the Logitech bus mouse works * fine with the Microsoft mouse driver so one might * think the two mice would be (almost) interchangeable. * My question is, has anyone actually tried using a Microsoft * Bus Mouse under NSFIP 3,2. If so, did it definitely NOT * work, almost work, or work just fine? Any feedback would * be appreciated. Running an Epson box with a PS/2 Serial Mouse. Over the past few weeks, the mouse became progressively flakier than a dandruff advert. I got a MicroSoft Bus Mouse [on somebody's recommendation] and it didn't work. I couldn't tell whether it was because of the problems I'd been having with the serial mouse, but I talked to a sys admin friend who'd been to the configuration class and he said the MicroSoft Bus Mouse would not work with NEXTSTEP, and the LogiTech Bus Mouse was recommended. So today I made Yet Another Trip To Fry's [why do I feel like I live in that gateway to Hell?], bought a LogiTech Bus Mouse, installed the board with IRQ 5 set, plugged in the mouse, booted the system, and It Just Works. ........ Henry
From: hah@toppoint.de (Heiko Hahn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: Installing NSfIP on NEC Ultralite VERSA Date: 16 Jun 1994 19:09:55 +0200 Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2tq113$r0m@worf.toppoint.de> Keywords: Notebook, Certified System, NeXTstep Hello Folks! I have some problems with the installation of NeXTstep/Intel 3.2 on a NEC Ultralite Versa Notebook (a NSfIP certified system!?!). 1. I succesfully installed the software on the notebook harddrive mounted in a desktop computer with a SCSI card and CD-ROM (default configuration). 2. I put the harddrive back into my notebook. But on the notebook the system hangs after the "filesystem clean, skipping check" message. I doublechecked the BIOS configuration with the description printed in the NeXTanswers. Everything seems to be OK. Please send your comments only to: hah@toppoint.de Thanks in advance, Heiko -- Heiko Hahn e-Mail: hah@toppoint.de D-22299 Hamburg hah@lfs.hamburg.cap-debis.de Germany Phone: +49-40-479038
From: ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT and IBM 0664 2-GB disk ? Date: 16 Jun 1994 18:19:05 GMT Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ Message-ID: <940616201859.236AGoaF.ti@bagheera> References: <2tn3f1$dff@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Gregor Hoffleit writes: > What do I have to do to use an IBM 0664 M1H 2-GB hard disk with a NeXT ? > While formatting works well, initializing the disk breaks with an I/O > error message. This seems to be something for the FAQ. We had the same problem and with the help of some friendly people on the Net and a technician at IBM GB we have been able to solve it. As far as I understood, the IBM is set up to operate in synchronous transfer mode, unfortunately, the (black) NeXT only supports asynchronous ones. To change that, you have to set in page 0 bit 7 in byte 3 to 1 and bit 5 in byte 5 to 1. You can do this with the scsitools (available from several ftp-sites), I have appended a modified page-0 sense and several mails, that were helpful for us. Once set up, the 0664-M1H is a fine disk, that works very well with the NeXT. Right now we are waiting for the new IBM DFMS-34320 (3,5", 4.3 Gigabytes) which is especially interesting due to it's price (about 3500 DM). Does anyone have experiences with this disk? Of course, I will not take any warranty, that the above described modifications will work with your disk. By messing up page 0 of your disk, you can destroy it, so take care. Matthias Matthias Kloas (ti@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de) ------- ti@buran:/usr/local/adm/scsitools/PARMFILES/IBM/0664M1H:12> diff sense.page.0 sense.page.0.patched 93c93 < -mp00 0003 21 b1 # 21 b1 80 21 --- > -mp00 0003 a1 b1 # 21 b1 80 21 95c95 < -mp00 0005 00 ff # 00 ff 20 00 --- > -mp00 0005 21 ff # 00 ff 20 00 ------- ti@buran:/usr/local/adm/scsitools/PARMFILES/IBM/0664M1H:13> cat sense.page.0.patched #-INQUIRY data # vid /IBM OEM / # pid /0664M1H / # firm /5 50/ -ilen 0064 -idat 0000 00 -idat 0001 00 -idat 0002 02 -idat 0003 02 -idat 0004 9f -idat 0005 00 -idat 0006 00 -idat 0007 1e -idat 0008 49 -idat 0009 42 -idat 0010 4d -idat 0011 20 -idat 0012 4f -idat 0013 45 -idat 0014 4d -idat 0015 20 -idat 0016 30 -idat 0017 36 -idat 0018 36 -idat 0019 34 -idat 0020 4d -idat 0021 31 -idat 0022 48 -idat 0023 20 -idat 0024 20 -idat 0025 20 -idat 0026 20 -idat 0027 20 -idat 0028 20 -idat 0029 20 -idat 0030 20 -idat 0031 20 -idat 0032 35 -idat 0033 20 -idat 0034 35 -idat 0035 30 -idat 0036 30 -idat 0037 30 -idat 0038 30 -idat 0039 36 -idat 0040 32 -idat 0041 31 -idat 0042 35 -idat 0043 36 -idat 0044 38 -idat 0045 36 -idat 0046 46 -idat 0047 30 -idat 0048 36 -idat 0049 32 -idat 0050 30 -idat 0051 20 -idat 0052 20 -idat 0053 20 -idat 0054 20 -idat 0055 20 -idat 0056 00 -idat 0057 00 -idat 0058 00 -idat 0059 00 -idat 0060 00 -idat 0061 00 -idat 0062 00 -idat 0063 00 #-MODE SENSE data -mlen 0024 # Parameter List Header #mhdr offs val msk # cur msk def sav -mhdr 0000 17 17 # 17 17 17 17 -mhdr 0001 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mhdr 0002 10 10 # 10 10 10 10 -mhdr 0003 08 08 # 08 08 08 08 # Parameter List Block Descriptor Format #mbdf offs val msk # cur msk def sav -mbdf 0000 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mbdf 0001 3c 3c # 3c 3c 3c 3c -mbdf 0002 03 03 # 03 03 03 03 -mbdf 0003 70 70 # 70 70 70 70 -mbdf 0004 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mbdf 0005 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mbdf 0006 02 02 # 02 02 02 02 -mbdf 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 # Page Code 00 #mp00 offs val msk # cur msk def sav -mp00 0000 80 80 # 80 80 80 80 -mp00 0001 0a 0a # 0a 0a 0a 0a -mp00 0002 e0 e0 # e0 e0 40 e0 -mp00 0003 a1 b1 # 21 b1 80 21 -mp00 0004 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mp00 0005 21 ff # 00 ff 20 00 -mp00 0006 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mp00 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mp00 0008 00 3f # 00 3f 00 00 -mp00 0009 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 -mp00 0010 00 ff # 00 ff 00 00 -mp00 0011 00 ff # 00 ff 00 00 ------- > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 13:16:23 +0100 > From: Stephan Trebels <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> > Subject: Re: How to shut off Synchronous mode for IBM664M1H? > > In article <2lfvjf$s2i@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> you wrote: > : We have a problem with an IBM 2GB hard disk of the above type. We want to > : use it with a (black) NeXT that only supports asynchronous transfer (i.e. > : scsi-1 commands). Unfortunately the IBM is shipped set up for synchronous > : transfers and with no documentation :(. > > Hmmm, zuerst mal: ich habe keine ibm664 sondern eine ibm662, nur > aenderte sich an den konfigurationen 662/663 sonst wenig, vielleicht > habt ihr ja glueck... > > 1) seid ihr ganz sicher, da"s es keine kleinen SMD jumper gibt? > auf der IBM662 sind es vier winzige SMD jumper auf der unterseite... > > 2) bei allen IBM pladden, die ich kenne muss ASDPE gesetzt werden > und synchronous mode disabled. ASDPE war bisher immer bit 7 in byte 3, > das ist per scsitools auf 1 zu setzen. > > 3) es gibt bei der 662 serie ein indicator bit f"ur synchronous mode, > und zwar bit 5 in byte 5, das manual sagte "bisher bewirkt ein setzen > dieses bits nichts, es zeigt nur an..." > > SUMMARY: > Ich wuerde vorschlagen scsitools_new von ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de > zu besorgen, danach erst mal page 0 zu sichern. dann byte 3 und byte 5 > setzen und probieren. alles nur mit vorsicht, klar ;-) > > Ciao, Stephan > -- > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ > / Stephan Trebels voice: +49 551 44690 /| > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | > | <trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de> "No NeXTmail yet, it's a HP" | + > | <trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de> "NeXTmail welcome" |/ > +--------------------------------------------------------------+ ------- > Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next > From: rfi@jeans.fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) > Subject: IBM 2GB-Platte erfolgreich initalisiert! > Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) > Organization: GMD-Fokus > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 09:55:25 GMT > > Hi, > > nach hilfreichen Hinweisen von Udo Meyer und Uwe Meyer-Gruhl konnte ich > die IBM-Platte OEM 0664-M1H initialisieren: 1.65 GB frei. > > Die Hinweise waren wohl schon mal so aehnlich in den News unterwegs, > bezogen sich aber auf eine kleinere IBM-Platte, die IBM OEM 663E12. > > Wesentlich zum 'Reparieren' sind die 'scsitools', die auf 'guten' > ftp-Servern verfuegbar sind (z.B. 'ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de'). > Darin enthalten sind zwei Programme (sense und select), deren Verwendung > ich kurz erklaere. > Ich muss betonen, dass alle scsitool was fuer Koenner und Kenner sind, da > man sich sehr leicht Platten unbrauchbar machen kann!!! > Ich habe mich trotzdem rangetraut, da man mit Vorsicht doch immer > (?)wieder 'zurueck' kann. > > Kurzanleitung: > ============== > - Gehaeuse auf, Jumper am Position 9-10 ziehen (auto start enable OFF) > - Gehaeuse zu. > - Anschliessen > - NeXT booten > - Angebotenes Initialisierungs-Panel ignorieren > - in ein 'sicheres' Verzeichnis gehen > - >> sense -t# -p0 > sense.page.0.ori > (sichert Page 0, Target-Nummer muss beim Booten 'erhascht' werden) > - >> cp sense.page.0.ori sense.page.0.mod > - sense.page.0.mod editieren und zwar folgenden Teil ueberschreiben: > > # Page Code 00 > #mp00 offs val msk # cur msk def sav > -mp00 0000 80 80 # 80 80 80 80 > -mp00 0001 0a 0a # 0a 0a 0a 0a > -mp00 0002 40 e0 # 40 e0 40 40 > -mp00 0003 80 b0 # 80 b0 80 80 > -mp00 0004 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > -mp00 0005 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > -mp00 0006 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > -mp00 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > -mp00 0008 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > -mp00 0009 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > -mp00 0010 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > -mp00 0011 00 00 # 00 00 00 00 > > - >> select -t# -f sense.page.0.mod (# beachten !!!!) > - >> /etc/disk -h myhost -l "mydisk" -i /dev/rsd#a (nicht Target# !!!!) > (initalisiert die Disk) > - wenn das nicht klappt, Page 0 retour schreiben: > >> select -t# -f sense.page.0.ori > Danach muesste alles wieder beim alten sein. > > !!! Ich habe das so gemacht, und es scheint zu funktionieren! Ich moechte > aber keinerlei Garantie uebernehmen!! > Weitere Informationen finden sich bei den scsitools im Verzeichnis: > "....scsitools/PARAMFILES/IBM/0663H12" > > Tschuess, Robert > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Robert Fischer @ GMD-Fokus -------- __o > ------- _`\<,_ > fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ## > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kiwi@next2032.le.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Graphics Cards with 4MB VRAM? Date: 16 Jun 1994 18:25:07 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tq5e3$7md@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <CrFw0t.1pC@tms-gmbh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <CrFw0t.1pC@tms-gmbh.de> hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) writes: > In article <2tm4b9$23i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> > gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: > > > > What graphics cards that have 4MB or more of VRAM > > and that have drivers are available for NS/i? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Greg > miro chrystal 32s or the new cards by ELSA > ELSA Winner 2000 Pro 4 MB (PCI or VL) (S3 VISION 964 chipset). It comes with NeXTSTEP Drivers. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT MAIL) )o o( nicht weisst kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT Mail) \ | / was Du tust, FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mach's mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: schwett@netcom.com Subject: Re: NEC 3Xe CD-ROM and NeXTSTEP Message-ID: <schwettCrIBvC.M1w@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <2tl5qh$9va@s.ms.uky.edu> <1994Jun15.081313.21516@cc.usu.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:35:36 GMT "Someone awhile back mentioned that they thought that NEXTSTEP had a problem with SCSI-2 CD-ROM drives like the 3Xi/e. Anyone have any clues?" Well, I've got an NEC 3Xi and have used to install NeXTStep on my system several times. I've had so many various problems at one point or another that I can't remember the specific instance, but on one occasion I did have to change the 3xi to SCSI-1 command mode.. There is a jumper on the back of the drive that is labeled to do this. Other than that, (or rather since I did that) I have had no problems at all with the NEC 3xi. Mark Schwettmann schwett@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: New #9GXE incompatible Message-ID: <CrIGz0.B8z@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:27:13 GMT The new #9GXE with the S3964 video chips won't work with the NeXT driver. Does anyone know: 1) where to get a driver that will drive them, available immediately in 1024x768 in 16bit color? or 2) where to get the old S3928 chip cards in a quantity of 70 available immediately? peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Graphics Cards with 4MB VRAM? Date: 16 Jun 1994 09:10:14 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2tp1d6$1b7@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2tm4b9$23i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) writes: >What graphics cards that have 4MB or more of VRAM >and that have drivers are available for NS/i? miro Crystal 32s ELSA Winner 2000 -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
From: gorgon@crl.com (Zach Copley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP35470 2 Gig DAT drive work? Date: 16 Jun 1994 22:51:26 -0700 Organization: Not much. Message-ID: <2trdku$et@crl2.crl.com> Summary: Does anyone know whether HP DAT drives work with NEXTSTEP/FIP? Keywords: DAT Do the HP DAT drives work with NEXTSTEP for Intel? The only drive listed in the compatibility guide is the Archive Python. What other DAT drives work? Any? Thanks, Zach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: SCSI ID SETTINGS FOR QUANTUM EMPIRE SERIES 1080MB Message-ID: <CrJ1En.2E4@ucdavis.edu> Summary: Which jumpers on the control board for Quantum 1080 MB Drive Keywords: SCSI ID - Which Jumper - Quantum 1080 MB Empire series Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 05:47:11 GMT I just received a pair of 1080 MB Quantum Empire Series Hard Drives. One is set to SCSI ID #6, the other to #7. All the jumpers are set identically on the control board. Question: How does one set the SCSI ID??? on this drive? e-mail: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu Thanks, David Bradford "Did you realize that Peter O'toole has a double phallic name?" - Groucho Marx in a letter to Dick Cavett.
From: Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does any removeable 128 optical or Syquest drive work with N Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 03:12:36 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <hmyQgyE.jhepp@delphi.com> References: <1994Jun7.223828.9065@iitmax.iit.edu> <2td84m$2rd@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: >> I would like to get a removeable cartridge drive for my two Nexts >> and now (because I have Daydream), my two Macs. >> >> Does any 128 MO, say the APS or ClubMac work with NeXTSTEP? The >> same question for 270MB Syquests? >> >> Any info would be appreciated. > >I assume you have NeXTstations, and not NS/Intel boxes. Chris, I recently tried the new Syquest 105 31/2" --same as the 270 but the first release-- and finally had to return it because of some strange desktop behavior. After working for a short time, it would fall out of the desktop. NeXTStep wouldn't recognize the drive after a couple of time reading and writing to it. I spoke with techs from Bell Atlantic, NeXT, Syquest and the drive OEM with no luck. I too posted here for help but received no responses. I would have gone for the MO except the access time was too slow for my needs. Good Luck. Jeff Hepp
From: albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The most powerful configuration available for NSi use? Date: 17 Jun 1994 10:33:48 +0300 Organization: Tampere University of Technology Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2trjks$qad@proffa.cc.tut.fi> This is a forwarded message from Juha Tuominen I'm currently using a 486DX2 @ 66 MHz with 16 MB of ram. Display adapter is ATI ultra pro VLB and scsi adapter is Adaptec's 1542CF with 2 GB Seagate Barracuda. This particular machine is used for application development and I might get a chance to upgrade the hardware. There're two things that I want more: More cpu speed and more graphics speed. I guess the cpu speed is solved by buying a Pentium based motherboard. Is there anyone using NSi (3.2) on a Pentium? Does Pentium speed up compilations or is the gain of speed lost to disk IO overhead? How about clock rate? As far as I know there are 99 MHz models already available at overkill price. What is the fastest display adapter today available for NeXTstep use? I'm currently using 1152x832 resolution with 16 bit color and I don't want use lower resolution. Is there drivers available for PCI boards? I remember seeing Diamond Viper on a compatibility list. How fast is it? -Juha
From: mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (mengpao cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Question] Can DPT and AHA1542C work together??? Date: 17 Jun 1994 10:31:59 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2tru2v$nca@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> References: <2trjks$qad@proffa.cc.tut.fi> Hello, Does any one use DPT and AHA1542C together at the same time? I am wondering if I can plug in both controller and get my NS3.2 installed. Any suggestion welcome... Rueiwun Tu
From: kransst@ac.com (Steve Krans - PRA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Running NS 3.2 on a Gateway PCI P5-60? Date: 12 Jun 1994 23:07:25 GMT Organization: Andersen Consulting - Minneapolis Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tg4fd$o6h@nsmmfs07.ac.com> Has anyone had any difficulty running NeXTSTEP 3.2 on the Gateway PCI P5-60? Please reply via email: steve.krans@ac.com. Thanks!
From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Logitech mouse on Black hardware Date: 17 Jun 1994 02:32:14 GMT Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc. Message-ID: <2tr1ve$mml@disc.coactive.com> Keywords: mouse,logitech My black mouse has just about become unusable, and I found out that a replacement mouse would cost $105. Instead of coughing up the money, I decided to hook up a Logitech mouse that we have around here, and have it working fine. In fact, it works better than the original since I wired the middle button to emulate pushing the left at right buttons at the same time (this gives me 3 buttons for my X server!). The wiring just requires two diodes connected from the middle button to the other two. Since this work so well, I would like to try and source the 10 pin socket used by the Logitech mouse and the 8 pin connector used by NeXT. Putting them into a small box will allow us at Coactive to replace all of the mice (as they die) without having to hack cables and/or mice. Does anyone know who might sell these connectors? Thanks, Otto P.S. I'll post a summary (including wiring diagrams and a parts list) if I can find the connectors. -- Otto Lind Coactive Aesthetics otto@coactive.com P.O. Box 425967, San Francisco, CA 94142 netcom!coactive!otto voice:(415)626-5152 fax:(415)626-6320
From: benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu (Ben E. Cline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS486 on a Micron Date: 17 Jun 1994 12:48:17 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <2ts62h$icl@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I'm looking for information about running NeXTStep 486 on a Micron P66PCI with 1G SCSI and a Diamond Viper card. The SCSI card in this box is a Bus Logic BT946C. In comp.sys.next.software, hans@tms-gmbh.de(Hans Stoeger) writes >There is only one supported PCI SCSI controller, the NCR 810 chip with >the Talus driver, there are rumors that the Buslogig BT946 PCI >controller works with the available BT445S driver So, can anyone confirm that the BT946 is supported? Any other thoughts on running NS486 on the Micron. Benjy -- Benjy Cline, AC4XO Virginia Tech Computing Center benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu
From: cdodson@vortex (R. Craig Dodson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: The most powerful configuration available for NSi use? Date: 17 Jun 1994 14:51:37 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <2tsd9p$brn@transfer.stratus.com> References: <2trjks$qad@proffa.cc.tut.fi> In article <2trjks$qad@proffa.cc.tut.fi> albert@proffa.cc.tut.fi (Ojala Pasi) writes: > This is a forwarded message from Juha Tuominen > What is the fastest display adapter today available for NeXTstep use? > I'm currently using 1152x832 resolution with 16 bit color and I don't want > use lower resolution. > Is there drivers available for PCI boards? I remember seeing Diamond > Viper on a compatibility list. How fast is it? > -Juha I'll put in a quick plug here for the systems we're using for Development/ Servers. We went with the NEC P60/ST for several reasons: 1) Extremely fast disk performance due to a DPT controller directly on the motherboard. Runs about 3.6 in DrivePerformance *without* the cache card. 2) PCI/EISA motherboard 3) 3 year on-site warranty We're using the Miro 32s 4mb PCI video card and the new Cogent EM935XL EISA Ethernet card. These are probably the best performing 60mhz Pentium systems available. The 99mhz version is due out very shortly and may even be at NeXTExpo next week. Take a look at one if you're there. Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer) cdodson@cac.stratus.com
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP35470 2 Gig DAT drive work? Date: 17 Jun 1994 18:50:06 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2tsr8u$pc8@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <2trdku$et@crl2.crl.com> Keywords: DAT In article <2trdku$et@crl2.crl.com>, Zach Copley <gorgon@crl.com> wrote: >Do the HP DAT drives work with NEXTSTEP for Intel? > >The only drive listed in the compatibility guide is the Archive Python. >What other DAT drives work? Any? > >Thanks, > >Zach I use a WangTek 6200HS. Works fine. I do use a short program to have the unit use fixed blocks for data transfers. Its about 2 dozen lines and has been posted here several times. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu (H. Paul Hammann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP Benchmarking software? Date: 17 Jun 1994 19:39:53 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tsu6n$r8k@golf.ustores.missouri.edu> I am going to be evaluating a number of different Intel NeXTSTEP machines. Can someone please point me to some benchmarking code for video, disk, network, and/or number crunching performance? It would be nice if I could find one package specifically NeXTSTEP based and another package generic enough to go cross platform (i.e. compare NeXT to SGI). Mail, posts, and Pointers to code welcome. Thanks in advance for any help! Regards, ___ /\__\ NeXT system administrator H. Paul Hammann \/__/ Campus Computing ccpaulh@monad.missouri.edu NeXTstep U. of Missouri - Columbia
From: pete_helme@genmagic.com (Pete Helme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Benchmarking software? Date: 20 Jun 1994 18:24:49 GMT Organization: General Magic, Inc. Sender: %. Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u4mth$96@gatekeep.genmagic.com> References: <2tsu6n$r8k@golf.ustores.missouri.edu> Are there any SPEC numbers available for NS on various Intel platforms? ------------------------- <pete_helme@genmagic.com>
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: The Legendary NeXTdimension JPEG daughter card Date: 20 Jun 1994 18:02:59 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2u4lkj$8jn@rosie.next.com> References: <CroHu2.9uu@news.cis.umn.edu> In article <CroHu2.9uu@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes: > Is this a card that will deadlock the bus/cpu after n number of transfers? > You can bet your bippy on that! (And n is pretty darn small!) Just to make things clear to everyone, the card doesn't work, is not supported by NEXTSTEP or the ND system software, and is undocumented. I tossed the card into the auction pool as a novelty item. I don't have schematics, PAL equations or fuse maps, connector pinouts, or any of that stuff. If you get the card, you've got everything there is that I know of, which will then be more than I have... This particular hardware design cannot be made to work reliably. This may have something to do with it's never appearing as a NeXT product. (Those of you who are really into conspiracy theories will of course not believe this.) Most ND cards don't have the connector installed to accept the JPEG card. If you do have an ND with the daughtercard connector, and you are so foolish as to actually install the daughtercard, you should first perform a full backup. I doubt that a Bell Atlantic service contract will cover what could happen to your machine. Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM ---- I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. "Mommy, mommy! I flamed and flamed, but the mean old engineer still won't write my term project for me!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: Does any removeable 128 optical or Syquest drive work with N Message-ID: <CrK8wr.Ct@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) References: <hmyQgyE.jhepp@delphi.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 21:26:51 GMT In article <hmyQgyE.jhepp@delphi.com> Jeff Hepp <jhepp@delphi.com> writes: > Garance A. Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > > >> I would like to get a removeable cartridge drive for my two Nexts > >> and now (because I have Daydream), my two Macs. > >> > >> Does any 128 MO, say the APS or ClubMac work with NeXTSTEP? The > >> same question for 270MB Syquests? > >> > >> Any info would be appreciated. > > > >I assume you have NeXTstations, and not NS/Intel boxes. > > Chris, I recently tried the new Syquest 105 31/2" --same as the 270 > but the first release-- and finally had to return it because of > some strange desktop behavior. After working for a short time, it would > fall out of the desktop. NeXTStep wouldn't recognize the drive after > a couple of time reading and writing to it. I spoke with techs from > Bell Atlantic, NeXT, Syquest and the drive OEM with no luck. I too > posted here for help but received no responses. I would have gone for > the MO except the access time was too slow for my needs. Good Luck. > Jeff Hepp Hey, Is that really true, that the Syquest drives (105/270) does not work with black HW???!! I just want to by one. Could you or any other tell it a little bit detailed why not? What does it mean exactly - After working for a short time, it would > fall out of the desktop - thanks Manfred -- *************************************************************** * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * ***************************************************************
From: richarda@tea.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Achmatowicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Gateway 2000 4DX2-66P Problem Date: 18 Jun 1994 10:11:51 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK. Message-ID: <2tuh97$2eo@beta.qmw.ac.uk> I'm trying to install NS/I 3.2 on a Gateway 2000 4DX2-66P (PCI) with the following configuration: 16Mb RAM Diamond Viper PCI video card DTC 2130S PCI IDE Hard Disk controller Western Digital AC2540H 540 Mb IDE Hard Disk Adaptec 1542C ISA SCSI controller Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM At installation time, the bus is identified as ISA, which may not be a problem. All devices are identified OK. But when NeXTStep starts to copy the system over, just at the stage when it warns of formatting the drive, the format starts and crashes with /private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 14336 at offset 0: mangled entry mode=022120 inum=6148 fs=/private/tmp/mnta panic: (Cpu 0) ialloc: dup alloc I tried different disk partitions, reformatting the disk under DOS, and anything else I could think of. Same result. I suspect it is the problem some people experience with IDE drives over 500Mb in size. I'm going to try to get a smaller drive to test with. If anyone has successfully run with a Gateway 2000 PCI machine with a hard drive > 500 Mb, I would like to know! Thanks -- Richard Achmatowicz Internet: richarda@dcs.qmw.ac.uk Dept. of Computer Science Telephone: +44 71-975 5244 Queen Mary and Westfield College Fax: +44 81-980 6533 University of London Mile End Road London E1 4NS United Kingdom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: troyw@teal.csn.org (Troy Weingart) Subject: 17 monitor comparision Message-ID: <CrpM92.G4@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet) Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 19:03:01 GMT I'm looking into purchasing a new monitor and the two monitors I've narrowed my search to are the Nanao F560iW and the Sony GDM-17SE1. I've never seen either these guys in action, so my choices are based entirely on hear-say and magazine reviews. Would any one care fill in the holes in the stats below and add to the following stats some objective/subjective opinion? F560iW $1300 .26 Dot pitch ???? Tube Horizontal BW: 30-82kHz Vertical BW: 55-90Hz 1280x1024 @ ?? Hz 3 year war. GDM17SE1 $1100 (relatively new monitor) .25 Dot pitch ????? Tube (trinitron??) Horizontal BW: ??-82kHz Vertical BW: ??-150Hz 1600x1200 @ 60 Hz 1280x1024 @ ?? Hz ?? year war. -- * Troy Weingart Internet: troyw@csn.org * * 6825 Ashley Drive AT&Tnet: 719.574.9844 * * Colo Sprgs, CO 80922 *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Local Bus (Non Vesa) video Message-ID: <1994Jun18.040638.1605@weston.com> Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 04:06:38 GMT I am woring with several machines that are ISA Locacal Bus. From what I understand, they are non-vesa or they have a slots configured as below ========== ========== ========== ========== ========== local-> ========== ^^^^^ SLOTS but, NOT in the following configuration ========== ========== ========== ========== ========== local-> ========== ===== ^^^^^ SLOTS Thus, my problem is that I need 1024x768 color on these machines, if possible. If you have any thoughts, please let me know. The next best would be 1024x768 greyscale. All help is appreciated. Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: carol@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Carol Miller) Subject: mapping black h/w keypad to vt100... Message-ID: <1994Jun20.192339.11860@midway.uchicago.edu> Summary: Having trouble mapping PF1-PF4 (vt100) on black h/w keypad... Keywords: vt100 keypad mapping Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 19:23:39 GMT Kind netters, My husband and I own a Next Station recently upgraded to 3.2 I had been using it to dial into work (VAX/VMS V5.5-2). I had set my window preference to do VT100 keypad mapping and all was well. Recently, we upgraded to 3.2 and now the top 4 keys on the keypad no longer map correctly. They should correspond to PF1 through PF4 and are used in EDT editor and the Vax debugger. As far as I can tell, the other keypad keys are mapped correctly. Does anyone have any (polite) suggestions for how I can fix this? Thanks for the help! Carol Miller carol.miller@gsb.uchicago.edu
From: estraff@next.com (Ethan Straffin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Local Bus (Non Vesa) video Date: 20 Jun 1994 18:58:33 GMT Organization: NeXT, Inc. Message-ID: <2u4osp$8oa@rosie.next.com> References: <1994Jun18.040638.1605@weston.com> In article <1994Jun18.040638.1605@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: :Thus, my problem is that I need 1024x768 color on these machines, if :possible. If you have any thoughts, please let me know. The next best :would be 1024x768 greyscale. If your machines are in fact vanilla ISA systems with no VL-Bus slots, there's always the miro Crystal 8S from miro Computer Products. That will give you 1024x768 grayscale or 800x600 color. Ethan Straffin NEXTSTEP Technical Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mc2@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) Subject: NSFIP: Will it work on COMPAQ Presario Message-ID: <1994Jun16.173526.2459@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com> Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center) Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of AT&T. Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 17:35:26 GMT Will NSFIP work on the COMPAQ Presario (I'm sure I'm spelling that wrong...)? I know it has on board video, is this a problem? Any other gotcha's? Thanks, -- --Mike \ "Better than most, mc2@sparc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM / not as good as some..." - Mr KFI
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black hardware Serial Cable Date: 18 Jun 1994 20:01:26 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tvjqm$ckh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I'm having hassle with a serial cable for a NeXT station. Could someone comment on my understanding. If I hold the modem cable in my hand and look at the buisness end of the cable ie the pins which will go into the socket on my next machine. then the numbering sequence as I see it is: 6 7 8 3 4 5 1 2 Is this right? Thanks for the help John.
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Help]: System won't boot Date: 18 Jun 1994 22:49:44 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tvtm8$ppu@news.doit.wisc.edu> This is posted for a friend, but please send any e-mail replies to me at giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu and I will forward the info. The system: Lucky Goldstar '486 The prelude: Disk was filled to within 200k of maximum (500 MB SCSI) The final mitigating factor: Rebooting the system The disease: The system won't boot. -It pauses for several minutes at the "mounting remote filesystems" step, and then hangs completely at the "Starting File service daemons:" step. Other Symptoms: An unusually high number of "RDB connection" hangups during boot, about 50% of the time. Things already attempted to solve problem: - config=Default boot - single user boot to free up 10 MB of space - unplugging from the network - fsck Any help would be appreciated. Michael Giddings
From: andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu (Andrew Barger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCMCIA modems? Date: 20 Jun 1994 22:01:36 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2u53k0$q0g@news.doit.wisc.edu> Has anyone gotten a PCMCIA modem to work under NextStep? If so, does it just work, or are there drivers available? -Andrew
From: bpatters@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEED ADVICE ON FATS VLB IN < 12 HOUSR!! Date: 11 Jun 1994 18:15:10 -0600 Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Message-ID: <2tdk2e$mjj@nyx10.cs.du.edu> I've got several questions that must be answered in about 12 hours. There is a computer show with radically reduced prices on all hardware at the Richmond Fairgrounds in Va. I can go tomorrow, but don't want to waste the trip if there is no point. Here goes.... I've got a Wingine video board w/ 2mb VRAM in my JCIS motherboard. This is quite a proprietary board sitting in the proprietary "multi- mode" slot (similar to but faster than and not compatible with VLB slot). It is INCREDIBLY fast in Windows. It has no acceleration chips on it, just opens a WIDE, FAST datapath for the CPU to move data. Everything is INSTANT in my 1024x768 32K color Windows environment. *BUT* 3D Bench gave it a 30.3 fps rating for DOS gfx speed. I've got a 486DX2/66 machine w/ 256K external cache. It should have been much higher. SO -- I am considering purchasing one of the following cards, which have been recommended to me: Hercules VLB board w/ 2mb using W32 P chipset Cardex VLB board 2/ 2mb using W32 P chipset I understand these should give 45 fps rating or so with my system in 3D Bench. Also, they are slower than my board in Windows, but I am mainly concerned with speed for games and demos in DOS. Another prob, tho, is that my PS/2 style mouseport is on the Wingine. I need to know if either of these boards, or ANY VLB fast board, has a PS/2 style mouse port on it. I've got a Logitech PS/2 style mouse. Also, if I get one of these boards (please, recommend any others that are good but "low" cost (the above are about $200 where I am going), WILL I see speed increase in DOS with games and demos?? Or do FEW things go over 30fps? (I think DOOM maxes out at 30fps, but when I goto lo-res mode, the display SPEEDS up, so I know in hi-res I am not running at 30fps, but then that is prob. CPU power more than anything). Anyway -- I need a response (VIA EMAIL PLEASE) VERY soon. So, if you own ANY sort of VLB fast board, PLEASE send me some recommendations and ideas, etc. I know little about speed of other VLB boards. I would REALLY appreciate ANY and ALL feedback. Thanks alot. bp EMAIL TO: bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu PS - ALSO - just HOW much do these boards lag in Windows? Remember, DOS speed is my main concern. --- =----------------------------------------------------------------------------= = Blake W. Patterson ||eCesys i486DX2/66, GUS, ||David Wilcox = = bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu ||Wingine 2mb VLB video, || Tori Amos = = bpatters@nyx.cs.du.edu ||16mb RAM, 700mb SCSI HD || Elvis Costello = = blake@vigsun1.larc.nasa.gov|I REPRESENT NO ONE BUT ME|...they say it all...= =----------------------------------------------------------------------------= == Face on Mars NASA video by Dr. Richard C. Hoagland. Watch it and think. == =----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone installed a Seagate drive in a cube? Date: 11 Jun 1994 18:02:54 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310/527-4279,818/756-0180,714/741-2920) Message-ID: <2tdmru$mjo@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> References: <2tadrb$2q3v@argo.unm.edu> Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler (klingler@unm.edu) wrote: : Howdy, folks. I'm trying to get an ST11200 to work in my cube, and I just : can't seem to get it right. Has anyone been successful at this? I've had an ST13200 up and running just fine, as well as the Barracuda 2.1gb ST21550. The last letters in the model number are significant, as to just how you set scsi ids. I hope you have the manual, because there are jumper settings that must be set properly, and it would be a devil to do it without the manual. You really need the manual. good luck, Chip I've had an ST13200 up and running just fine, as well as the Barracuda 2.1gb ST21550. The last letters in the model number are significant, as to just how you set scsi ids. I hope you have the manual, because there are jumper settings that must be set properly, and it would be a devil to do it without the manual. You really need the manual. good luck, Chip I've had an ST13200 up and running just fine, as well as the Barracuda 2.1gb ST21550. The last letters in the model number are significant, as to just how you set scsi ids. I hope you have the manual, because there are jumper settings that must be set properly, and it would be a devil to do it without the manual. You really need the manual. good luck, Chip -- >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-< | Chip Sieglinger <chipsig@kaiwan.com> "Life is short..., | | Long Beach CA Home Phone/Fax 310-985-0086 Eat dessert first!" | >-<>--<>---<>----<>-----<>------<>----+----<>------<>-----<>----<>---<>--<>-<
From: info@paradigm-shift.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone installed a Seagate drive in a cube? Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 02:27:50 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Message-ID: <940611222750.3275AAC6K.info@barkley> References: <2tadrb$2q3v@argo.unm.edu> <2tdmru$mjo@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 11 Jun 1994 18:02:54 -0700 From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (Chip Sieglinger) Subject: Re: Anyone installed a Seagate drive in a cube? Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler (klingler@unm.edu) wrote: : Howdy, folks. I'm trying to get an ST11200 to work in my cube, and I just : can't seem to get it right. Has anyone been successful at this? >I've had an ST13200 up and running just fine, as well as the Barracuda 2.1gb >ST21550. The last letters in the model number are significant, as to just how >you set scsi ids. I hope you have the manual, because there are jumper settings >that must be set properly, and it would be a devil to do it without the manual. > >You really need the manual. Actually you can get the SCSI settings for all Seagate hard drives by calling Seagate Technical Support at 408.438.8222...not every drive is currently in there but most are...Automated information is available 24 hours/day, however information on the ST11200 is not in the automated system. Dave Briggman
From: gguelden@ixpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printer on Parallel port (NS/I)- any chance now or in the future? Date: 12 Jun 1994 16:13:07 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH, Waldbronn, Germany Message-ID: <2tfc6j$1qf@balu.ixpoint.de> References: <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> In article <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) writes: > Hi; > > Any chance of connecting a parallel ps-printer to NS/I now or in the near > future. Any comments/suggestions? > ??? Like NIKE says: Just do it ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Im Ermlisgrund 20-24 76337 Waldbronn Germany + + Phone ++49 7243/65535 Fax ++49 7243 69817 + + Email: gguelden@ixpoint.de (NeXTmail welcome) + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Subject: Re: Replacing an NeXTstation int. HD Message-ID: <Cr9GHw.2Fq@trapac.com> Sender: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation References: <1994Jun11.215319.25427@news.cs.indiana.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 01:37:08 GMT In article <1994Jun11.215319.25427@news.cs.indiana.edu> "John Lacey" <johnl@cs.indiana.edu> writes: > Can I replace the internal hard drive of a black slab? Do I have to > buy something special, or can i buy a random internal SCSI drive? > Or do i buy a random drive and salvage parts from the existing > drive? And does anyone know where I can purchase the brackets from for a NeXTSTATION Color internal drive? -- Karl Kraft Karl_Kraft@trapac.com Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com [My opinions are my own]
From: captain@arsenal.com (Andrew T. Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DOS.fs Patch File - A Question Date: 20 Jun 1994 23:30:03 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology Message-ID: <2u58pr$dq@news.doit.wisc.edu> Howdy, Well, I grabbed this new patch and I have a question. 1. I've got a 2.0 gig Fujitsu with a 500meg NeXTSTEP partition and multiple extended DOS partitions. -- I desperatly need to mount these other partitions. NeXTSTEP still only recognizes the drive C partition. I've tried a host of mount command syntax's, but I still can't get it to work. Are there any kind souls that have gotten this new patch and successfully mounted logical extended DOS partitions? Thanks! - C -- _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Knight Enterprises - A Film/Video Production Company _/_/_/ C. Knight - captain@arsenal.com _/_/_/ (608) 251-5522 _/_/_/ (608) 251-5727 FAX _/_/_/
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will this hardware work with NeXT? Date: 12 Jun 1994 17:15:02 GMT Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office Message-ID: <2tffqm$okr@news.mic.ucla.edu> References: <2tapmi$bf4@news.delphi.com> I may have the need to print to an HP DeskJet 500 printer occasionally. What options do I have? (I vaguely remember a product called DOTS and ghostscript, both of which I have never used. Any others? Any recommendations?) Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu AGSM at UCLA
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Weitek P9100 PCI adapter and driver? Date: 19 Jun 1994 03:55:30 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u0fji$idj@eps.com> Does anyone have info on the Weitek P9100 based video boards? I just received a flyer from JCiS and they are advertising a 2 and 4 meg vram PCI video board with a NeXTStep driver.. -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications steve@eps.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole Kaiyan) Subject: Re: Wacom tablets advice sought (found : -) Message-ID: <CrAE9D.6zA@number_one.apana.org.au> Sender: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole Kaiyan) Organization: Cafe de Strachan - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder. References: <1994Jun7.171118.6070@talus.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 13:46:24 GMT Steve Sarich III writes > > MCCOLLAM, DON writes: > > > Hi. I have a 25Mhz, 040 NeXTcube running NS3.2. I'm thinking of > > > getting a Watcom tablet for drawing. If you have experiece with these, > > > please e-mail advice. What do they cost? Where? What software do they > > > work/not work with? How long a cord? Is it extendable? Etc. Etc. Etc. > > > Thanks! > > > Don McCollam (mccollam@snow.ccit.arizona.edu) > > > Well, I can't "announce" this driver yet, it's still in final testing, but > you can expect to see an annoucement in the next few days. The driver > will support the current Wacom products, the UD-1212 (12"x12") tablet and > the Art-Z (6"x9") tablet. Both will fully support pressure > sensitivity...without the bugs you're finding in the NeXT driver! This, > as with all Talus drivers, will NOT be Next certified :-) Does this make > a big difference to you?? > > Glad we could help :-)) > > Steve Sarich III, President, Talus Imaging (steve@talus.com) As the original poster asked, does a Wacom pressure-sensitive tablet driver exist for NeXTSTEP for NeXT computers, and if so, how does it connect to the NeXT computer? -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Nicole Kaiyan Email: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au nicole@cse.unsw.edu.au School of Computer Science Nicole_Kaiyan.CHI@Xerox.COM and Engineering nkaiyan@farben.latrobe.edu.au University of New South Wales -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Nicole Kaiyan Email: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au nicole@cse.unsw.edu.au School of Computer Science Nicole_Kaiyan.CHI@Xerox.COM
From: mengpao@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (mengpao cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will this hardware work with NeXT? Date: 11 Jun 1994 10:49:22 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson Message-ID: <2tc4ri$5oq@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> References: <Joel-Bussey.2.01433FCE@uoknor.edu> <2tapmi$bf4@news.delphi.com> Hello NeXT Fans, I have a couple of questions really annoying me. Hopefully I can gather some answers from all of you. On "NeXTAnswers #1475", it said that the Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller must be set in "Standard Mode" in order to run NS. It also mentioned that when you set Adaptec 1742 in "Standard Mode", it is compitable with Adaptec 1542. My questions are: 1. If we set 1742 in standard mode which is compatible with 1542, can 1742 still take advantage of 32bit EISA board. Or said can 1742 still has the ability to access the memory more than 16MB??? 2. Supposely one has EISA motherboard and want to choose either 1742 or 1542 controller. Since 1542 and 1742 are both using the same driver in NS, why would people pay more for using 1742 instead of using 1542 -- assuming both of them make no difference to each others. 3. I think a lot of fans know that PAS16 and Adaptec 1542 will fight each other in ISA bus motherboard. Is this going to be the same if one use both of them in EISA bus motherboard??? In another hand, assuming both 1542 and 1742 are functioning in the same way (since they are using the same driver), will 1742 and 1542 fight each other in EISA bus motherboard??? Any suggestions or answers will be so appreciated.... Rueiwun Tu
From: lestat@cs.utexas.edu (Faizel Dakri) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep on GATEWAY 2000 ? Date: 19 Jun 1994 18:32:06 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <2u22v6$h54@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <2trn0j$74o@aragorn.unibe.ch> In article <2trn0j$74o@aragorn.unibe.ch> guest@max.unibe.ch (Guest) writes: > I plan to buy a Gateway Pentium System (66 MHz) with PCI bus to > run Nextstep on it. Could someone who is running such a system > (succesfully !) post his/her exact configuration ? > > > bangerte@butp.unibe.ch I've been running NS/I on my Gateway P5-60 for about 6 months now. My configuration is: Gateway P5-60 w/ 32 MB RAM ATI PCI AX0 graphics card (came with the Gateway). DPT 2021 SCSI Controller Micropolis 2210 1GB HD Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive I was having problems installing with the DPT controller, so I borrowed a friend's Adaptec 1542 controller and installed with it (installing with the Adaptec was a snap, BTW). After NS was installed, I selected the DPT driver in Configure.app and then swapped the cards. It's been working fine ever since. For the video, the ATI only supports 2-bit grayscale in standard VGA...unacceptable. Thanks to some posts by Alexander Keiblinger (make that a VERY VERY BIG thank you), I've been able to change the ATI driver to work at higher resolutions. Right now, I'm using it at 1120x832 in 8-bit grayscale. Color only works well for me at 800x600, though. Faizel Dakri faizel@mail.utexas.edu
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NSFIP: Will it work on COMPAQ Presario Date: 21 Jun 1994 02:30:01 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u5jb9$coq@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Jun16.173526.2459@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com> In article <1994Jun16.173526.2459@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com> mc2@sparc.SanDiegoCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox) writes: > Will NSFIP work on the COMPAQ Presario (I'm sure I'm spelling that wrong...)? > I know it has on board video, is this a problem? Any other gotcha's? > Mike, NCR (AT&T Global Information Systems) makes a NSFIP-box (the 3333) and it runs NeXTSTEP quite well. Since you work for NCR couldn't you probably get one of those boxes cheaper than the Compaq? Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: PCMCIA modems? Message-ID: <Crq7r5.IJF@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <2u53k0$q0g@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 02:46:42 GMT You need either an enabler or socket services in order to have the modem be visible to the system. NeXT says it comes with 3.3 (Jan or June 1995 or 1996) or write a kernel loadable server that emulates what the DOS counterpart does. The short answer was, "No, you don't have a prayer to get it to work." peter Andrew Barger (andrew@phenxl.physics.wisc.edu) wrote: : Has anyone gotten a PCMCIA modem to work under NextStep? If so, does it : just work, or are there drivers available? : -Andrew -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dell dropped from NeXT's Hardware Compatibility Guide Date: 21 Jun 1994 03:03:10 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u5l9e$cov@inxs.concert.net> No Dell boxes on the Hardware Compatiblity Guide (as far as Certified Systems)...If you take a look at the new Guide (June 16), there are very few Certified systems on the Guide now, which causes me concern. Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kris@entigran.com (Kris Noland) Subject: Mac <-> NeXTstation monitor cable Message-ID: <1994Jun21.001759.915@entigran.com> Sender: kris@entigran.com Organization: Entigran Enterprises Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:17:59 GMT Hi all, Does anyone know of a source for a cable that would allow me to connect a SuperMac Spectrum 8-24 PDQ card to a 19" NeXTstation color monitor. Pinouts so I could make the cable would be fine, but a supplier of ready made cables would be even better. Thanks much kris
From: tkwoo@spider.it.Bond.edu.au (Tak Woo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does any removeable 128 optical or Syquest drive work with N Date: 21 Jun 1994 00:06:11 GMT Organization: OrgFreeware Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u5atj$c8@surf.kowande.Bond.edu.au> References: <hmyQgyE.jhepp@delphi.com> <CrK8wr.Ct@manki.toppoint.de> In article <CrK8wr.Ct@manki.toppoint.de>, manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes: |> Is that really true, that the Syquest drives (105/270) does not work |> with black HW???!! I just want to by one. |> Could you or any other tell it a little bit detailed why not? What does |> it mean exactly - After working for a short time, it would |> > fall out of the desktop - |> I am not sure about the newer SyQuest, but SyQuest 555 (44Mb) works fine with FIP. I have had used it with an Adaptec 1542b for serveral months before selling it to someone else. Regards, Tak =============================================================================== Tak Woo Email: t.woo@dstc.edu.au CRC for Distributed Systems Technology Bond University Phone: +61 (0)75 953301 Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA Fax : +61 (0)75 915609 WWW: http://dstc.Bond.edu.au:91776/tkwoo/tkwoo.html =============================================================================== |> thanks |> |> Manfred |> -- |> *************************************************************** |> * Manfred Roehr e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de * |> * Elisabethstrasse 88 fax: +49 431 733 483 * |> * 24143 Kiel phone: +49 431 73 45 39 * |> * Germany NeXT-mail welcome * |> *************************************************************** |>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: The Legendary NeXTdimension JPEG daughter card Message-ID: <CroHu2.9uu@news.cis.umn.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <2tr2g6$3q2@rosie.next.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 04:29:10 GMT Is this a card that will deadlock the bus/cpu after n number of transfers? peter Mike_Paquette@next.com wrote: : Recently, while cleaning out some dusty old drawers, I came across... : The NeXTdimension JPEG Daughter Card! : (Cue the chorus. Damn! I really need some multimedia here...) : Now, I don't have any paper or on-line documentation for this thing, so : the information, such as it is, contained in the board can be passed : along to only one other person. Since lots of folks have expressed : interest in this thing, I have something of a problem. Do I play : favorites, or do I find some fair and equitable way of letting folks : have a chance at getting this item? : Well, fairness has triumphed over greed, and I have turned over the card : and a floppy of Good Stuff to Darren Smith, who is coordinating things : here for the NeXT User Group Auction. If you want a chance at this item, : you'll need to be at the NeXT User Group Auction, Wednesday, June 22, : 11:45 til 1:00, at Moscone Center in San Francisco, California. : Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM : ---- : I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me. : Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility, : and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. : "Mommy, mommy! I bit him on the ankle and the mean old engineer still : won't give me all his source code!" -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Floppy Drives for Cubes - Which/Who/How much Message-ID: <CroIvx.GKL@ucdavis.edu> Summary: 2.88 MB internal or external drive options for cube Keywords: Cube Floppy Internal or External Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 04:52:45 GMT Which floppy drives (2.88 Meg) will work in a cube? Where can I get one? How much will it cost (about) ? Internal or External options? Thanks, David Bradford
From: rueiwun@helium.Gas.UUG.Arizona.EDU (ruei-wun tu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Questions about Adaptec 1742 and 1542??? Date: 11 Jun 1994 12:38:15 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson Message-ID: <2tcb7n$6sl@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> References: <CqnGst.KD0@utstat.toronto.edu> <CqpCnL.B8s@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <CqrBzG.I0D@utstat.toronto.edu> Hello NeXT Fans, I have a couple of questions really annoying me. Hopefully I can gather some answers from all of you. On "NeXTAnswers #1475", it said that the Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller must be set in "Standard Mode" in order to run NS. It also mentioned that when you set Adaptec 1742 in "Standard Mode", it is compitable with Adaptec 1542. My questions are: 1. If we set 1742 in standard mode which is compatible with 1542, can 1742 still take advantage of 32bit EISA board. Or said can 1742 still has the ability to access the memory more than 16MB??? 2. Supposely one has EISA motherboard and want to choose either 1742 or 1542 controller. Since 1542 and 1742 are both using the same driver in NS, why would people pay more for using 1742 instead of using 1542 -- assuming both of them make no difference to each others. 3. I think a lot of fans know that PAS16 and Adaptec 1542 will fight each other in ISA bus motherboard. Is this going to be the same if one use both of them in EISA bus motherboard??? In another hand, assuming both 1542 and 1742 are functioning in the same way (since they are using the same driver), will 1742 and 1542 fight each other in EISA bus motherboard??? Any suggestions or answers will be so appreciated.... Rueiwun Tu
From: gregory@nukestep.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Graphics Cards with 4MB VRAM? Date: 15 Jun 1994 05:42:01 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <2tm4b9$23i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> What graphics cards that have 4MB or more of VRAM and that have drivers are available for NS/i? Thanks in advance, Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bnh@active (Brian Hess) Subject: Re: HP35470 2 Gig DAT drive work? Message-ID: <1994Jun20.183139.8153@nntpxfer.psi.com> Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com Organization: Performance Systems Int'l References: <2trdku$et@crl2.crl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 18:31:39 GMT Zach Copley (gorgon@crl.com) wrote: : Do the HP DAT drives work with NEXTSTEP for Intel? Yes, I use an H-P 35470A drive with NS, both on an Intel machine (w/Adaptec 1542) and a black cube. The 35470 model (as mentioned in your header) is an old one, the first that H-P manufactured. I cannot give evidence on H-P DAT drives in general (as mentioned in your body text) but there is little reason to expect them to be worse. You *do* need to run the "setmd" or "setmtd" utility to fix the block size, prior to doing a dump with this model. If you don't, on my Intel/Adaptec system you get an error of some kind when trying to write the tape, but on the black cube you won't see any error (except that it will take an eternity to back up a little 300Mb drive) until you try to read it again, whereupon it will simply be unreadable. Run the utility first and all works well. Brian Hess Active Ingredients, Inc. bnh@active.com
From: jbm@aiinet.com (John Milton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Booting from a 1024 byte block SCSI drive on a PeeCee Date: 12 Jun 1994 08:17:28 GMT Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc. Message-ID: <2tegao$ijb@aisun.aiinet.com> Keywords: 1024 boot Let me guess, you just can't do it? The NeXT fdisk doesn't even want to mess with the partition table on a non 512 byte block disk. This is a problem... John -- John Bly Milton IV jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:252-8544, w:798-8301 NeXTmail OK AMPR:N8KSN[44.70.0.52] Don't FLAME, inform!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: "Paper is jammed in your printer" Message-ID: <1994Jun12.090047.1737@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <2t7v35$5e5@garuda.csulb.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 09:00:47 GMT In article <2t7v35$5e5@garuda.csulb.edu> mahoney@csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney) writes: > Much as I love her voice, I'm sick of the comment. For some reason, whenever I > print a page about 10% of it stays in the NeXT printer. I can easily pull the > page out, but the next page won't print and I get the message "Paper is jammed > in your printer." Anyone have any thoughts on how to fix this hardware > problem? Isn't that the worn cog problem? There is a particular nylon gear wheel deep inside the printer that causes this. Some people have made up a metal replacement, maybe someone has one spare for you? Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: FAQ--Multiple Serial Ports on White Message-ID: <1994Jun12.091105.1837@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <1994Jun9.042027.2097@weston.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 09:11:05 GMT In article <1994Jun9.042027.2097@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) writes: > I am interested to learn if it can be done, and if so, how and with what > degree of success. > > I need more than two serial ports. I need a serial port for a mouse and > then connections to up to three machines via a serial connection. If > anyone has done anything like this, let me hear about it. Use Mux 1.4 with a Digiboard. Mux is on cs.orst.edu. It may/should work with other multiport board that support the same API. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Subject: Re: Open Letter to Next Message-ID: <1994Jun12.091555.1925@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <Cr3qKy.2v4@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 09:15:55 GMT In article <Cr3qKy.2v4@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca (Terry Wilcox) writes: > If their only complaint is "NeXT won't certify our drivers", my > response is "who cares?". Most people don't know or care that NeXT > certifies drivers. As long as Talus guarantees and supports them, it > doesn't matter. A NeXT certified machine may only use NeXT certified drivers. As a result, if a hardware manufacturer wants to use a Talus driver in a certified system, NeXT will refuse to list it. I think this matters a lot. Paul -- Paul Lynch P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green, Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: ecesys <ecesys@delphi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Graphics Cards with 4MB VRAM? Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 04:28:44 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Message-ID: <ZA5NX98.ecesys@delphi.com> References: <2tm4b9$23i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Gregory B Howland <gregory@nukestep.mit.edu> writes: >What graphics cards that have 4MB or more of VRAM >and that have drivers are available for NS/i? > > >Thanks in advance, >Greg Greg: The eCesys Weitek Power9100 PCI Video w/ 2MB VRAM will be available with a 9100 Driver at EXPO. The 4MB Board with the driver will be ready shortly therafter. You can always get our latest product info from ns-products@digifix. { next upate with prices on Pentiums, PCI products available this Friday} Regards, eCesys, Inc.
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Zenon Z-Optimus II PCI??? Date: 21 Jun 1994 05:05:07 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge Message-ID: <2u5se3$1kru@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> Does anybody have any experience with installing NS/FIP on Zenon machines? Their latest ad gives some very good prices for Pentium-90 machines (16 megs, 1 gig scsi, pci/ncr scsi controller, 17" mag monitor, ATI mach 64, all for approx $4k). If anybody has any good or bad things to say, please let me know! Thanks! john -- - john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: procopio@thumper.cis.upenn.edu (Joseph L. Procopio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: Using Black Printer from network Date: 21 Jun 94 14:38:19 Organization: UPENN Computer Graphics Research Laboratory Distribution: comp Message-ID: <PROCOPIO.94Jun21143819@thumper.cis.upenn.edu> Anyone have a clue how I can get a Macintosh with ethernet to use the printer on my NeXTCube ? Please help..... Joe
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting from a 1024 byte block SCSI drive on a PeeCee Date: 12 Jun 1994 08:31:37 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <2teh59$oja@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <2tegao$ijb@aisun.aiinet.com> Keywords: 1024 boot In article <2tegao$ijb@aisun.aiinet.com>, John Milton <jbm@aiinet.com> wrote: > >Let me guess, you just can't do it? > >The NeXT fdisk doesn't even want to mess with the partition table on a non >512 byte block disk. This is a problem... You should really check out NeXTanswers #1533. It says: "Boot disks for NS/FIP machines must have 512 byte sectors. Boot disks for NeXT machines and data disks for either can have 1024 byte sectors. " -- Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only) Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ, University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and collector of titles.
From: cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer on Parallel port (NS/I)- any chance now or in the future? Date: 12 Jun 1994 06:57:39 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Message-ID: <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> Hi; Any chance of connecting a parallel ps-printer to NS/I now or in the near future. Any comments/suggestions? Thanks a lot. Best Regards. --chip (cnayak@crl.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@barbakane.McGill.CA (Piotr Twarecki) Subject: Intermittent system panics (harddrive related ?) Message-ID: <1994Jun12.150235.28472@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Keywords: panic,NS3.2,black,harddrive Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:02:35 GMT Hello, a while ago I described a problem I had with harddrive timeouts that would occur at random, freezing up the system for about a minute or so with no other visible side effects. This morning after I logged out from the system, the login panel did not reappear. I started the system monitor, just to see a panic. A reboot resulted in failed fsck, and after a manual run, several missing files were reported, amongst them the loginwindow.app. This is the third time that something very similar has happened to me in past four months. For no apparent reason the system panics and the filesystem is partially trashed (once I spend a VERY long time recovering what was left of it :(. I have also noticed another strange symptom which seems to be related to the harddrive. Sometimes when the system is restarted from the login panel, harddrive makes exactly the same noise as during power-up, and the system crashes with an exception. Considering the SCSI timeouts on my harddrive and the above problem, is it possible that my harddrive is dying? I can only think of this, a faulty SCSI controller on the motherboard or the internal SCSI cable. I saw a mention once about an extensive hardware diagnostics software available from NeXT: how could I possibly obtain it to verify my motherboard integrity? Tha hardware is: NS3.2 on 16MB Cube, Quantum ProDrive 425S (almost 2 years old, warranty just expired). Thank you in advance for any help or suggestions. I really appreciate it. -- Piotr (Peter) Twarecki B7NS@MUSICB.McGill.CA
From: mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Open Letter to Next Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 12 Jun 1994 19:30:40 GMT Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD Message-ID: <2tfnp0$hch@network.ucsd.edu> References: <1994Jun12.091555.1925@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch (paul@seer.demon.co.uk) wrote: : In article <Cr3qKy.2v4@arcane.calgary.ab.ca> terry@arcane.calgary.ab.ca : (Terry Wilcox) writes: : > If their only complaint is "NeXT won't certify our drivers", my : > response is "who cares?". Most people don't know or care that NeXT : > certifies drivers. As long as Talus guarantees and supports them, it : > doesn't matter. : A NeXT certified machine may only use NeXT certified drivers. As a : result, if a hardware manufacturer wants to use a Talus driver in a : certified system, NeXT will refuse to list it. I think this matters a : lot. This is somewhat reasonable. It would be entirely unreasonble though to refuse to put it on the "Listed" section with its own NextAnswer number. matt : Paul -- -Matt Kennel mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu -Institute for Nonlinear Science, University of California, San Diego -*** AD: Archive for nonlinear dynamics papers & programs: FTP to -*** lyapunov.ucsd.edu, username "anonymous".
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printer on Parallel port (NS/I)- any chance now or in the future? Date: 12 Jun 1994 19:50:37 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2tfoud$hct@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> In article <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) writes: > Any chance of connecting a parallel ps-printer to NS/I now or in the near > future. Any comments/suggestions? Seems to work fine for us (DEC MTE with HP LJ4/M). I've see Gateway 2000 systems that needed to have their PROM setup changed to make the port address to what NEXTSTEP expects... -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP POSSIBLE? Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:00:10 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <damonc.17.2DFB694A@hookup.net> Is there ANYONE out there that is running a STANDALONE NS box that is successfully running TransSys PNI SLIP?? I posed a similar question last week, and I got 31 (THIRTY ONE!!)responses from people looking for help as well... Can anyone help? (Please!) Given a "fresh", standalone machine, install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it, what are the steps to follow? Anybody have this working that could post/upload the config files/etc? THANK-YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!! Damon Cooper damonc@hookup.net
From: damonc@hookup.net (Damon F. Cooper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: STANDALONE TRANSSYS SLIP POSSIBLE? Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:03:27 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <damonc.22.2DFB6A0E@hookup.net> Is there ANYONE out there that is running a STANDALONE NS box that is successfully running TransSys PNI SLIP?? I posed a similar question last week, and I got 31 (THIRTY ONE!!)responses from people looking for help as well... Can anyone help? (Please!) Given a "fresh", standalone machine, install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on it, what are the steps to follow? Anybody have this working that could post/upload the config files/etc? THANK-YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!! Damon Cooper damonc@hookup.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: SCSI error Message-ID: <1994Jun12.200547.11138@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:05:47 GMT I just added a 100M disk to a PC, for DOS/Windows development use. It's a 105 that came from an original NeXTstation (kinda funny, isn't it ;-). However, it's resisting it's new role with some vigor: here's what I get during boot: Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: MAXTOR MXT-540SL J1.5 Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd0a Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: Device Capacity: 521 MB Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd0: Disk Label: Disk Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: QUANTUM LP105S 910109405 2.8 Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL. Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: target:4 lun:0 op:Mode Sense Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd1 at Target 4 LUN 0 at sc0 Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: Registering: sd1a Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Illegal request; FATAL. Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: target:4 lun:0 op:Mode Sense Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Device Block Size: 512 bytes Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Device Capacity: 100 MB Jun 12 15:53:22 merlin mach: sd1: Disk Label: disk It seems to be working fine... should I worry about this? Is there anything I can do to fix it? Could it be a termination problem? If so, what then? Any info is appreciated (as well as advice on separate DOS partitions/drives, dos and don'ts). Thanks in advance, - darcy -- <Here we are! Here we are! Here we are!> Stipe <I don't know.> Steve <It's never really happy for me.> Housemartins <Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.> and I <A nod's as good as a wink wink to a blind man> Idle <Must be a bug in the AppKit.> Ivo + Paul
From: igerard@shadok.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Thanks: ALR Evolution IV Date: 22 Jun 1994 10:51:19 GMT Organization: INA, Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Bry-sur-Marne, France Message-ID: <2u9537$1ar@wolfy.ina.fr> References: <2tkorh$160@wolfy.ina.fr> Hello, In article <2tkorh$160@wolfy.ina.fr> igerard@bipbip.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias) writes: > > I would like to install NEXTSTEP on a ALR Evolution IV, but I have found a The ALR with NEXTSTEP and WindowsNT work now. In fact, after four days of tests and so on, I have etablished that the motherboard was bad. After change of this motherboard I make the installation in 1/2 day. The configuration of this machine is : ALR Evolution IV ATI mach 42 VLB Intel EtherExpress Adaptec 1542C (wait for a BusLogic VLB) 1Giga SCSI Hard Drive (NEXTSTEP 576 Meg, and NT 430 Meg) Thanks to guy who help me : Denis GESBERT (Labo optique Starsbourg) Ethan Straffin (NeXT) Steve Sarich (Talus) Jeff Trestrail See you NeXT PS : I hate PC World, yet. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Gerard Iglesias, Email : igerard@ina.fr Computer Graphics researcher computer aided cartoon design --- --- realize a CAC on SGI platform but wait to move under NEXTSTEP NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP on SGI !!!!!!!!!!!! INA-Institut National de l'Audiovisuel, Phone (33) (1) 49832930 94366 Bry sur Marne Cedex, France Fax (33) (1) 49832582 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pphc@world.std.com (Pilgrim PHC) Subject: EATA ???? Message-ID: <CrrMwL.4qA@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:12:19 GMT I am trying to install NeXTSTEP 3.1 on a 486/66 DX2 EISA computer. I am using a DPT pm2022 SCSI controller. . After rescaning the SCSI Bus it gets hung at this point: EATA controller at irq 15 I did check the FAQ's but there was nothing on this subject. Bill
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep on GATEWAY 2000 ? Date: 20 Jun 1994 08:58:30 -0600 Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center Message-ID: <2u4aqm$82v@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <2trn0j$74o@aragorn.unibe.ch> <2u22v6$h54@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> So when will NeXT and/or Talus support the ATI mach64? This looks like a killer chipset for DOS/Windows capable of great things under NEXTSTEP as well. .............................kris Faizel Dakri (lestat@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: : In article <2trn0j$74o@aragorn.unibe.ch> guest@max.unibe.ch (Guest) writes: : > I plan to buy a Gateway Pentium System (66 MHz) with PCI bus to : > run Nextstep on it. Could someone who is running such a system : > (succesfully !) post his/her exact configuration ? : > : > : > bangerte@butp.unibe.ch : I've been running NS/I on my Gateway P5-60 for about 6 months now. My : configuration is: : Gateway P5-60 w/ 32 MB RAM : ATI PCI AX0 graphics card (came with the Gateway). : DPT 2021 SCSI Controller : Micropolis 2210 1GB HD : Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive : I was having problems installing with the DPT controller, so I borrowed a : friend's Adaptec 1542 controller and installed with it (installing with the : Adaptec was a snap, BTW). After NS was installed, I selected the DPT driver in : Configure.app and then swapped the cards. It's been working fine ever since. : For the video, the ATI only supports 2-bit grayscale in standard : VGA...unacceptable. Thanks to some posts by Alexander Keiblinger (make that a : VERY VERY BIG thank you), I've been able to change the ATI driver to work at : higher resolutions. Right now, I'm using it at 1120x832 in 8-bit grayscale. : Color only works well for me at 800x600, though. : Faizel Dakri : faizel@mail.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wagner@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Subject: Grafix&Diskz Message-ID: <1994Jun21.110057.28281@ifi.unizh.ch> Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin) Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:00:57 GMT Hi, I wonder if anyone has already tested the new DimStealth64 with NS drivers.. Is it really that good as it appears on the datasheet? And has anyone gathered experience with the Buslogic VL adaptor? is it stable and fast? Thanks simon -- If a trainstation is where the train stops, what is then a workstation?
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printer on Parallel port (NS/I)- any chance now or in the future? Date: 12 Jun 1994 15:14:04 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2tf8ns$gat@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> In article <2tf48j$bc2@crl.crl.com> cnayak@crl.com (Chiraprakash Nayak) writes: >Hi; >Any chance of connecting a parallel ps-printer to NS/I now or in the near >future. Any comments/suggestions? We have an HP Laser Jet IVsi hooked into an Intel Professional GX parallel port right now. It works fine. Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Configuring ET4000/W32i driver Message-ID: <2u816k$j58@wehil.wehi.edu.au> From: odonohue@kauai.ludwig.edu.au (Mark O'Donohue) Date: 22 Jun 1994 00:38:44 GMT Organization: The Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research Hi I have a ET4000/W32i local bus video card with 2M memory and a fairly advanced montior, but I cannot get the new device driver to work with it. The configuration suggested by the driver is 2M at 07000000 and 49 bytes at 0x3b0 could these values need changing? and if so how do I find our what to change them to? Thanks in advance Mark O'Donohue odonohue@oahu.ludwig.edu.au PS: For anybody at NeXT - a keyboard shortcut key for selecting power off from the logon dialog would be handy, if the mouse does not work or the screen does not display the only way out is to turn the power off. This may be fine once in a while but when trying to configure the video driver as I am it means waiting for fsck to check the disks each time, and a the time it takes is rather discomforting.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ctm@cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews) Subject: dead internal drive -- I need help Message-ID: <Crrtox.F7r@cobra.cs.unm.edu> Sender: news@cobra.cs.unm.edu Organization: ARDI Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 23:39:01 GMT Hi Folks, We just had a nasty power spike take out the internal hard drive of iclone, our NetInfo server. I attached a spare external drive and reloaded NEXTSTEP onto the external drive and am running off that, but there are a couple problems. The problem with our internal drive is it fails to spin up properly. When power is applied to the machine, the drive starts to spin up, then at about the time that it normally goes active, there is a loud clicking sound and then the drive spins down. I'm guessing that there is a circuit breaker that is flipping during the power up, but I'm not sure. This dead drive is worse than no drive at all. NEXTSTEP is able to tell that it's there, but it is not smart enough to realize that the drive is not going to come ready. Consequently, NEXTSTEP polls it at a rate a little greater than once a second and reports 19 failures for 19 retrys. That results in about 1k of error messages going to /usr/adm/messages every second. This is the original internal disk that came when we purchased this slab new from NEXT a few years ago. It's a Seagate ST1480 (Rev 5232). I don't mind replacing the disk, per-se, but I'm going out of town Friday for four days and I don't want my machine running out of disk space just because of the error messages. So here are my questions: Does anyone know a simple way to bypass the internal disk? If I disconnect the four prong internal power connector, the SCSI bus hangs and will not boot at all. Has anyone had experiences with drives failing to spin up? Perhaps the sensor that is telling the drive to give up as it starts to spin is faulty. Anyone know of any jumpers that might allow me to tell this thing to spin up no matter what? Anything special I need to know when replacing an internal disk? Thanks. --Cliff ctm@cs.unm.edu NOTE: ctm@ardi.com won't be a useful address for a little while
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mounting a second internal HD Date: 22 Jun 1994 01:31:49 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u84a5$qdc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <CrrAvz.AEp@apollo.hp.com> In article <CrrAvz.AEp@apollo.hp.com> ganek@apollo.hp.com (Daniel E. Ganek) writes: > Question: Is there some way (hack) to remount the 100mb drive > internally? Until I sold my 200 MB drive, I had both a 1.3 GB and a 200 MB drive in my monochrome 25 MHz NextStation. In addition to the floppy drive and the normal half height SCSI hard drive, it is possible to also install an additional third (one inch) height SCSI drive. The key restriction is that the additional drive must be third height. Two half height drives plus a floppy drive won't work. Mount the third height drive from the underside of the NextStation cover, near the back, centered from side to side. Get some standard hard drive mount, chop it to fit your needs and glue it to the cover with silicone glue or whatever you prefer. Then get dual SCSI 50 pin and dual power cables and you're set. For those interested in doing this to a colorstation, be forewarned: there is less space. I haven't tried it on my colorstation, but it would be a bit more of a squeeze if it worked at all. -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon Date: 22 Jun 1994 03:28:15 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u8b4f$e4d@inxs.concert.net> References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> In article <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> colins@cs.mun.ca (Colin Stuckless) writes: > NeXT Computer Corp. has granted Canon the use of the NeXT > Station trademark and will be working with Canon as a > strategic OEM partner. Pricing for the new systems has > not been announced. The only error in this so far, is the above paragraph. Apparently NeXT bagged the idea of the machine being called "NeXTstation" and instead it's being called the Object Station. Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bnh@active (Brian Hess) Subject: Canon object.station advertisement Message-ID: <1994Jun22.030337.2520@nntpxfer.psi.com> Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com Organization: Performance Systems Int'l Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 03:03:37 GMT Canon has a glued-in brochure for their new "object.station" in this week's "PC Week" magazine. This was the first time I've seen a picture of it, or any marketing literature from Canon. The flyer is very slim on any technical details. They say it's a 486, with in-house engineered video system, 1120x832 "and beyond". They also say the CD-ROM is optional, keyboard has sound and brightness keys (but not power), and has built-in audio, SCSI, and LAN adapters (doesn't say which are on-motherboard). Comes with NS and the 30-day expiring SoftPC pre-installed. No info about disk sizes, nor actual hardware components inside, nor prices. Yes, it's white. FaxBack number listed as 800-526-4345, but I checked and it doesn't have any info yet on this product. Person to talk to listed as 800-349-6007. Hopefully the expo will generate more concrete info! Brian Hess Active Ingredients, Inc. bnh@active.com
From: dabbah@clark.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: mapping black h/w keypad to vt100... Date: 22 Jun 1994 00:13:11 -0400 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Message-ID: <2u8don$75q@explorer.clark.net> References: <1994Jun20.192339.11860@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: vt100 keypad mapping In article <1994Jun20.192339.11860@midway.uchicago.edu>, Carol Miller <carol@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote: >Kind netters, > >My husband and I own a Next Station recently upgraded to 3.2 > >I had been using it to dial into work (VAX/VMS V5.5-2). I had >set my window preference to do VT100 keypad mapping and all was >well. Recently, we upgraded to 3.2 and now the top 4 keys on >the keypad no longer map correctly. They should correspond to >PF1 through PF4 and are used in EDT editor and the Vax debugger. > >As far as I can tell, the other keypad keys are mapped correctly. > >Does anyone have any (polite) suggestions for how I can fix this? > >Thanks for the help! >Carol Miller > >carol.miller@gsb.uchicago.edu > > If I remember correctly, I first noticed the problem in NS 3.1. And I was disapointed that it was still in 3.2 Copying Terninal from NS 3.0 seems to work. Or you can get Stuart or some other terinal App. But make sure you send mail to bug@next.com ( this address may be wrong, check the 3.2 documentation) If enough users complain, Next may fix it. Albert
From: info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon, Data General, others gone from Hardware Compatability... Date: 22 Jun 1994 12:49:56 GMT Organization: MCNC/NC-REN Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u9c1k$etu@inxs.concert.net> References: <2u8ll0$2cs@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <2u8ll0$2cs@agate.berkeley.edu> gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. Foliente) writes: > object.station You are right...just faxed-back the specs sheet...We have inked with Canon (this box will only be available through Object Channel Partners and Canon direct) to sell this box and should have pricing after I leave to go to Expo today and should have pretty definite numbers on Friday upon my return. I took with great note, Data General missing on the hardware compatability guide...the Intel GX also, Logisys (Lucky-Goldstar) also. Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jrjesson@netcom.com (J.R. Jesson) Subject: Re: Talus Driver Policy Message-ID: <jrjessonCrsxEE.CFw@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <1994Jun13.231409.7673@talus.com> <2tl51v$c04@network.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 13:56:38 GMT In article <2tl51v$c04@network.ucsd.edu>, Matt Kennel <mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu> wrote: >Steve Sarich III (talus.com!steve) wrote: >: For those of you who asked what we'd do without NS, I'll tell you that >: Talus Corporation owns seven different businesses, in three countries, >: ranging from meat processing to publishing, from importation of Russian >: night vision equipment to distribution of prepress hardware from twelve >: different companies....the least profitable business is, of course, our NS >: programming (who didn't figure that out?). > >Of course one ought to keep in mind that NeXT, Inc. has no other line of >business besides Nextstep. > ...And if NeXT does not do a better job of *attracting* ISV's, OEM's and the like, they will have *no* line of business. The lack of NeXTSTEP device drivers is a real impediment to growth, IMO. After spending the last several weeks trying to properly configure vanilla Intel boxes, I really feel as though NeXT needs to be more inclusive of vendors. After all, people like Steve Sarich are doing things that will *increase* the sales of NeXTSTEP software. As in other areas, NeXT seems to find a way to piss off the very people that would help them. This, I think, is the purest form of arrogance. jr --- Replys should be directed to jrjesson@onramp.net. I ignore my netcom account.
From: gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. Foliente) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon Date: 22 Jun 1994 06:27:44 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <2u8ll0$2cs@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2u8b4f$e4d@inxs.concert.net> In article <2u8b4f$e4d@inxs.concert.net> info@paradigm-shift.com (Paradigm Shift Corporation) writes: > In article <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> colins@cs.mun.ca (Colin > Stuckless) writes: > > > NeXT Computer Corp. has granted Canon the use of the NeXT > > Station trademark and will be working with Canon as a > > strategic OEM partner. Pricing for the new systems has > > not been announced. > > The only error in this so far, is the above paragraph. Apparently NeXT bagged > the idea of the machine being called "NeXTstation" and instead it's being > called the Object Station. object.station -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg C. Foliente gregf@nature.berkeley.edu FPL, UC-Berkeley (NeXTMail) gregf@fpl91.berkeley.edu 1301 South 46th St, Richmond, CA 94804 phone: (510) 215-4282 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: daver@cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing a Quantum 540M drive in a cube... Date: 22 Jun 1994 11:06:56 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2u9k2g$t6s@harmony.cc.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: daver I just bought a Quantum 540M SCSI drive (I think it's the LS540 or something like that) to replace my cube's old dead Maxtor 330M. So, my question is: how do I install it? I'm not worried about the physical installation, just the software installation. I've looked on cs.orst.edu for relavant information with no luck so far. The only version of NeXTstep that I currently have is 2.1 on optical. (I just bought an Apple CD SC Plus but don't yet have a cable or a 3.x CD.) Thanks, DR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) Subject: Re: Does any removeable 128 optical or Syquest drive work with N Message-ID: <1994Jun22.073411.24445@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl> Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven References: <hmyQgyE.jhepp@delphi.com> <CrK8wr.Ct@manki.toppoint.de> <2u5atj$c8@surf.kowande.Bond.edu.au> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 07:34:11 GMT tkwoo@spider.it.Bond.edu.au (Tak Woo) writes: >In article <CrK8wr.Ct@manki.toppoint.de>, manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes: >|> Is that really true, that the Syquest drives (105/270) does not work >|> with black HW???!! I just want to by one. >|> Could you or any other tell it a little bit detailed why not? What does >|> it mean exactly - After working for a short time, it would >|> > fall out of the desktop - >|> >I am not sure about the newer SyQuest, but SyQuest 555 (44Mb) works >fine with FIP. I have had used it with an Adaptec 1542b for serveral >months before selling it to someone else. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, lets not get confused. It is quite clear from earlier postings that concerning MO-drives BLACK or WHITE hardware are two different things. So if someone asks if a drive works with black hardware, don't reply that "an older version works with FIP". The issue is already complicated enough. And now my question: does the new Fujitsu 2512 (230 MB) work with black (!!!) hardware? Willem -- W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philips TASS schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon Date: 22 Jun 1994 21:39:15 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uab23INNhcc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> In article <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca>, colins@cs.mun.ca (Colin Stuckless) writes: |> |> The following article appeared in this month's (July) Computer |> Shopper and I thught it might be of interest here: |> |> ------ [deletia] |> The key NextStep optimizations concern video. "We have |> applied for a number of NextStep-specific video patents to |> optimize video performance for the NextStep environment," |> says Bret Gutzka, director of sales for Canon's Advanced |> Technologies Operations. "Since Windows accelerators make |> little or no difference with NextStep we've put the video |> subsystem right on the system memory interface where the |> video talks to the CPU practically as fast as the internal |> cache does. This isn't anything new: the VL bus (VL 1.0) is essentially exactly the same thing: a direct connection to the 486 system bus. Most VL implementations aren't even buffered, and therefore end up using the CPU to physically drive the local bus. VL even uses the same burst mode as the 486 (4 32-bit words per burst, because the 486 L1 cache has a 128 bit line size...) |> "We leave the PCI bus free for SCSI, LAN, and audio - and, |> of course, video performance benefits from clock doubling |> and tripling as much as CPU performance." Not true. Clock doubling takes place inside the CPU, and does not affect behavior of the system bus (that's the whole point of clock multiplication). Unless they're using a custom version of the DX4 that allows them access to the high-speed internal busses (yeah, right!), this statement cannot physically be accurate. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard... H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hocker@ritz.mordor.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon, Data General, others gone from Hardware Compatability... References: <2u8ll0$2cs@agate.berkeley.edu> <2u9c1k$etu@inxs.concert.net> Organization: Mordor International BBS - Jersey City, NJ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 22:14:12 GMT Message-ID: <CrtKFp.4nC@ritz.mordor.com> In article <2u9c1k$etu@inxs.concert.net>, Paradigm Shift Corporation <info@paradigm-shift.com> wrote: >In article <2u8ll0$2cs@agate.berkeley.edu> gregf@fpl91.Berkeley.EDU (Greg C. >Foliente) writes: > >> object.station > >You are right...just faxed-back the specs sheet...We have inked with Canon >(this box will only be available through Object Channel Partners and Canon >direct) to sell this box and should have pricing after I leave to go to Expo >today and should have pretty definite numbers on Friday upon my return. ... is it going to have a "black" case, kbd, mouse, and screen? One can only wish... Matt -- A2500 /// Matthew Hocker, b.eng Volkswagen [W] fanatic **** Canadian '030 /// hocker@mordor.com '85 GTI '87 Scirocco 16V * \/ * +American \\\/// This post is recyclable. '88 Jetta GLI 16V *\/\/* ======== \XX/ "Believer in all things well designed & engineered" **** spam'n'ehs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Why not PAS16-SCSI? Message-ID: <gwertzma.772317204@husc7.harvard.edu> From: gwertzma@husc7.harvard.edu (James Gwertzman) Date: 22 Jun 94 20:33:24 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts I have my CD-ROM hooked up through a Proaudio spectrum 16 sound card. That has a passable scsi port for cdrom's, though I wouldn't try using it for a harddrive. I have found scsi drivers for it for NT, for DOS, and for Linux. Yet everytime I try to find a NextStep driver for it so that I can install NextStep for Intel, I am told that the PAS-SCSI port is not up to snuff, and that a driver for it can't be written. I just want to know exactly why this is, gven that it works in these other OS's, and all I want to do is install with it. I'm not in the mood to shell out $170 or so for an adaptac just to install nextstep. or maybe, just maybe, someone out there has a PAS scsi driver? -- James Gwertzman : It's all in my .plan
From: john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon Date: 22 Jun 1994 22:05:04 GMT Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge Message-ID: <2uacig$2chh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> <2uab23INNhcc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> In article <2uab23INNhcc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>, Patrick Chase <patrick@sdd.hp.com> wrote: > >|> "We leave the PCI bus free for SCSI, LAN, and audio - and, >|> of course, video performance benefits from clock doubling >|> and tripling as much as CPU performance." > >Not true. Clock doubling takes place inside the CPU, and does not >affect behavior of the system bus (that's the whole point of clock >multiplication). Unless they're using a custom version of the DX4 >that allows them access to the high-speed internal busses (yeah, >right!), this statement cannot physically be accurate. > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Patrick Chase Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard... >H-P San Diego What they're getting at is that the video processing is done by the CPU, not by the accelerators on the video cards themselves. So, if you have a faster CPU, then of course your video is faster as well, providing you don't have to transfer a great deal over the bus. If the video is hanging off the CPU like the cache, then you do get a benefit from a faster porocessor. john -- john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CSP sound card? Date: 22 Jun 1994 23:14:49 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <2uagla$96c@news.tamu.edu> Keywords: NSI sound cards Prodigy is offering a SoundBlaster-compatible 16-bit PC sound card with stereo speakers for $89.99. Does anyone know if that might work with NSI 3.2? Thanks! -- Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher College Station, TX 77843-3112 ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: westner@cezanne.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Dominik Westner) Subject: Email address of JC Information Systems Corp. Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System) Message-ID: <Cs7qq1.B1G@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 13:56:25 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Keywords: jcis Hi, does anybody know the email address of JC Information Systems Corp. Fremont. I think they have a really nice DX4/100 16MB with wingine graphics, 17" Hitachi Monitor (both havine 1600 x 1200) for $2995. This sounds quite good to me. thanks -- Dominik Westner "Everything is possible in an infinite universe" ___________________________________________Willi, the painter Dominik Westner Muenchen-Germany HOME: westner@guug.de [NeXTMail welcome]
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Thanks: ALR Evolution IV Date: 22 Jun 1994 08:30:06 -0600 Organization: University Of Utah Computer Center Message-ID: <2u9hte$k3@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <2tkorh$160@wolfy.ina.fr> <2u9537$1ar@wolfy.ina.fr> How unusual, for an ALR. ;-) .......................kris Gerard Iglesias (igerard@shadok.ina.fr) wrote: : > I would like to install NEXTSTEP on a ALR Evolution IV, but I have found : In fact, after four days of tests and so on, I have etablished that the : motherboard was bad. .......................kris
From: jmcaulif@gagme.wwa.com (Jon D. McAuliffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [HELP]: Mounting a DOS-formatted Quantum ELS170S on NS3.1 black hw Date: 22 Jun 1994 12:59:43 -0500 Organization: WorldWide Access - Chicago Area Internet Services 312-282-8605 Message-ID: <2u9u6f$s8t@gagme.wwa.com> Hi, I'm running NS3.1 on a 16/400 NSC with one external hard drive (at the moment), a Quantum 240. I put a second external drive on the SCSI chain, a DOS-formatted Quantum ELS170, which Mach finds successfully at boot time. When Workspace tries to automount it, however, it thinks it has found a Mac formatted drive (the drive was Mac formatted at the factory but I reformatted it using a PC w/DOS 6.2). Attempts to 'mount -t dos /dev/[r]sd2a /<dst>' return "I/O error." Running 'disk -q /dev/rsd2a' reveals that a disk label cannot be found. Changing SCSI ID's seems to have no effect. I note in the hardware FAQ that ELS170's have a compatibility problem whose symptoms are unrelated to these. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Jon jmcaulif@husc.harvard.edu
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dead internal drive -- I need help Date: 22 Jun 1994 09:32:54 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <2u90g6$fs@machthenext.dannug.dk> References: <Crrtox.F7r@cobra.cs.unm.edu> In article <Crrtox.F7r@cobra.cs.unm.edu> ctm@cs.unm.edu (Clifford T. Matthews) writes: |>Hi Folks, |> |>We just had a nasty power spike take out the internal hard drive of iclone, (rest deleted) |> Does anyone know a simple way to bypass the internal disk? |> If I disconnect the four prong internal power connector, |> the SCSI bus hangs and will not boot at all. |> Hmmmm, how about if you disconnects both the power cable AND the SCSI cable to that disk??? If you only unplug the powercable on the disk, the SCSI bus will still see the disk, and try get in contact with it, just to know what drivenumber it has, and if termination is wrong, that might hang the bus.... Best regards Michael --- _____________________________________________ Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33 Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon Date: 23 Jun 1994 05:34:05 GMT Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: <2ub6sd$jml@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> In article <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> colins@cs.mun.ca (Colin Stuckless) writes: >The 486s will be followed in a >couple of months by a series of NextStep-optimized Pentium >machines in both one- and two-processor configurations. 2-processors?! Will the next version of NEXTSTEP (3.3) support symmetric multi-processing? Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: NS PC's from Canon Message-ID: <1994Jun23.042900.8527@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada References: <1994Jun22.012800.25189@cs.mun.ca> <2uab23INNhcc@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> <2uacig$2chh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 04:29:00 GMT In article <2uacig$2chh@te6000.otc.lsu.edu> john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu (John Woodward) writes: > >What they're getting at is that the video processing is done by >the CPU, not by the accelerators on the video cards themselves. So, >if you have a faster CPU, then of course your video is faster as well, >providing you don't have to transfer a great deal over the bus. >If the video is hanging off the CPU like the cache, then you do >get a benefit from a faster porocessor. > Which is a feature of NEXTSTEP, not of the Canon PC, as they seem to claim. - db -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kskaalr1@sol.UVic.CA (Kevin Skaalrud) Subject: Dell and Value Point DX4s Message-ID: <kskaalr1.772348640@sol> Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria Date: 23 Jun 94 05:17:20 GMT I am currently looking at these two boxes for purchase. One (the VP box) uses the S3 864 and the dell uses the new #9 video card (ATI 64 bit). My question is this: Which of these two (if either) would work best with Nextstep? One other question being that the VP has a write-back L2 cache, would this cause any incompatibilities? Thanks. Kevin.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Programming the NuBus Message-ID: <CsHMoB.FsL@ucdavis.edu> Summary: How does one programm the NuBus Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 22:04:59 GMT I have a multiboard cube and would like to write a driver to send message packets accros the NuBus. Is this done in ROM with ROM routine calls. Where are the docs for the NuBus Interface? How does one program it?? Any Help Appreciated. David
From: aies6@rosie.uh.edu (Luong, Jessica) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP LaserJet 4Si MX Date: 5 Jul 1994 18:30 CDT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <5JUL199418302623@rosie.uh.edu> Keywords: printers News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 I recently purchased a Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 4Si MX for a network of NEXT. I am having a hell of a time trying to integrate this sucker into the network. There's no simple serial interface to work with! HP decided to only include a so called MI/O card interface which allows for faster printing in a network environment. There are pretty good documentations for installing the printer on HP-UX or SunOS but very little on BSD Unix (not to mention NEXTSTEP). Has anyone out there have an HPLJ4Si MX sucessfully installed on their NEXT network. I'd really, really like to have a few pointers from you. (i.e. printcap entries, netinfo entries, etc...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: smh@Rational.com (Scott M. Hinnrichs) Subject: Viper Pro Drivers? Message-ID: <1994Jul6.034025.3563@Rational.COM> Sender: smh@hercules (Scott M. Hinnrichs) Organization: Rational Software Corp Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 03:40:25 GMT Anyone know how/if the Viper Pro is going to be supported under NSFIP 3.2? Scott
From: brady@mercury.interpath.net (Don Brady) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sharp JX-9460PS / PhoenixPage Printer? Date: 6 Jul 1994 03:40:45 GMT Organization: Interpath -- An Internet access provider Message-ID: <2vd93t$6rl@redstone.interpath.net> This PhoenixPage (clone) Postscript interpreter looks like a great bargain for the money. 600 dpi for $900. Does anyone know whether it would likely work with NextStep? Or is NextStep too tied to the internals of Adobe postscript? Thanks for any hints.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mikej@crash.cts.com (Mike Jones) Subject: i need a 200 mb hard cheep Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 01:52:49 GMT Message-ID: <CsHx82.JIs@crash.cts.com> Keywords: x Sender: news@crash.cts.com (news subsystem)
From: starksm@genesis.mcs.com (Scott M. Stark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: XPS installation problems Date: 6 Jul 1994 04:41:13 GMT Organization: MCSNet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vdcla$e9c@News1.mcs.com> Keywords: DELL, XPS Hi, I am unable to get NEXTSTEP installed on our DELL XPS 90 system. I make it to the installation from CD to hard drive step. If I try to erase the entire 1032Mb drive, the installation simply fails with a DISK INTIALIZATION failure and then reboots. I tried creating a 1000Mb, and then a 900Mb NEXTSTEP parition and used that as the installation target. This gets to the progress strip, but fails every time with the following panic: /private/tmp/mnta: bad dir ino 12288 at offset 0: mangled entry mode = 010170, inum = 12291, fs = /private/tmp/mnta kernel panic (6,3,1) This system has an Adaptec 1542CF SCSI controller, NEC double speed CD, and Western Digital IDE 1gig hard drive. Any suggestions? Thanks, Scott -- Scott Stark Stark International Software 4950 N. Marine Dr. #102 Chicago, IL 60640 starksm@genesis.mcs.com (NeXT mail accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jbardt@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Joshua Bardt) Subject: Re: Which MSS sound cards work? Message-ID: <1994Jul06.045624.172979@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo References: <2usa6o$jdm@chopin.udel.edu> <Cs9Gpn.BM@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 04:56:24 GMT In article <Cs9Gpn.BM@touga.vd.alphanet.ch>, <jacques@touga.vd.alphanet.ch> wrote: >In article <2usa6o$jdm@chopin.udel.edu> greimann@chopin.udel.edu (John B >Greimann) writes: >> Hi, >> >> I was just wondering if anyone has had success under NS 3.2 with >any >> of the various compatible Microsoft Windows Sound System Cards that are >> available? I can post a summary if anyone's interested and there are >enough >> responses. Yes, please summerize. >> >> Thanks for the help! >> >> Brandon > >I'm using Mediatrix's Audiotrix Pro that works really fine under both NS >and DOS/Windows. It also includes Yamaha's OPL4 wich gives a beautiful >sound. The card is not very expensive and was offered at a very low cost. > >Jacques GARBI I'm using the Audiotrix also. It's pretty decent, but I would like a true line-level out (I'm using some filters to hook it up to my stereo) and SB-PRO emulation in DOS (ie - stereo in games). It looks like Ensoniq's card (Soundscape) does this and some other pretty cool trix in hardware (no TSR's in dos like the Gravis) - anyone know if this works with NS? Ahh - here's the ad : $279 (retail) you get: Ensoniq wavetable synthesis (ala gravis I suppose, doesn't have any specs on ram/rom etc). 16bit sound with 32 voice polyphony comp with: Soundblaser, adlib, mpu-401, mt-32, General Midi, MPC level 1&2, Windows 3.1, Windows Sound System [thought it had SB PRO, guess not... *sigh*] No TSR's 3 CD-ROM connectors [one scsi? doesn't matter much since I'm sure almost all of us have scsi cards] 60-day refund period, 3 year warranty. Hmm - so if anyone wants to try it with almost no risk - tell me what happens :) their number is 1800-942-0096 josh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) Subject: Double Clicks Message-ID: <1994Jul5.201013.9906@ToTSySSoft.com> Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com Organization: Total System Software Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 20:10:13 GMT I seem to be getting double clicks out of my mouse at times when I onlt do a single click. It doesn't happen all the time, but it's enough to be a pain. Any one else have this problem? Know of a fix? Rick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> Subject: [HELP]: Connecting Exabyte to Gateway system and 1542C SCSI controller Message-ID: <1994Jul6.044131.9339@bMD.com> Sender: neil@bMD.com (Neil Greene) Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex., KY) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 04:41:31 GMT I have an Exabyte 8mm tape drive that works just fine on our black hardware. We have it connected to a Gateway system using an Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller. The machine boots and sees the drive just fine with the correct ID. But, when attempting to use the drive using dump, rdump or restore and the default device, /dev/rxt0 or /dev/nrxt0, I keep getting the message "No device /dev/rxt0". Any hints or clues? Neil Greene benchMark Developments, Inc. Email: Neil@bMD.com -- Sincerely, Neil Greene
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does the Seagate Barracuda do HP NeXTSTEP? Date: 6 Jul 1994 06:32:50 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vdj6i$6us@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <2vboft$pl8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> In article <2vboft$pl8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) writes: > I would like to know if the Barracuda (seagate disk drive) works > with HP-NEXTSTEP. Could you post a quiry to the net regarding this? > 2 GBytes > Barracuda (seagate) > internal: 1679.00 > external: 1779.00 > seek time 6.9ms > 7200 rpm > scsi controller: "SCSI II fast" According to a NeXT kernel engineer at Expo, the reason they are being conservative and only "supporting" "HP" (HP uses several vendors for disks) disks is that NEXTSTEP/HP will attempt to negotiate every SCSI-2 option for maximum speed, and that may wedge some disks. I would be surprised indeed if the Barracuda, one of the latest disks around, didn't support such options. Note that the Gecko SCSI-2 interface is "slow" (5 MB/s), not "fast" (10 MB/s), but should still work with the Barracuda. -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to install MO drive... Followup-To: poster Date: 6 Jul 1994 11:55:26 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <2ve63e$ma5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Keywords: MO Drive, Installation Hi, I recently purchased a Magneto-Optical drive for my NeXT. I've got a cable that came with it which has something which looks like a small black weight near one end. Could someone tell me if this weight goes near the drive or near the system board, I don't want to install the cable wrong. Thanks for any input (I know this is probably a stupid question, but I'm paranoid!!) Thanks again, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu -- Opinions expressed in this space are mine. However, they are the -- fault of my twisted and demented professors at UMCP!!! #include <stdsig.h>
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Caddie won't go in CD300? Date: 6 Jul 1994 05:31:37 +0100 Organization: me organised, that's a joke. Message-ID: <2vdc39$e4@steffi.demon.co.uk> IS this a common problem? The caddie won't go in my CD drive without me forcing it and even then it's stuck so I don't think forcing it is going to do any good. -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lamb@eqt.ch (Alexander Lamb) Subject: Re: [HELP]: Connecting Exabyte to Gateway system and 1542C SCSI controller Message-ID: <CsIwCr.BL7@eunet.ch> Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator) Organization: EUnet Switzerland References: <1994Jul6.044131.9339@bMD.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 14:31:38 GMT You just need to load the SCSI Tape driver in the Config.app (Intel world...) Hope this helps, Alexander Lamb Expert Quantitative Trading Geneva / Switzerland In article <1994Jul6.044131.9339@bMD.com> Neil Greene <Neil@bMD.com> writes: > I have an Exabyte 8mm tape drive that works just fine on our black > hardware. We have it connected to a Gateway system using an Adaptec 1542C > SCSI controller. The machine boots and sees the drive just fine with the > correct ID. But, when attempting to use the drive using dump, rdump or > restore and the default device, /dev/rxt0 or /dev/nrxt0, I keep getting > the message "No device /dev/rxt0". > > Any hints or clues? > > Neil Greene > benchMark Developments, Inc. > Email: Neil@bMD.com > -- > Sincerely, > > Neil Greene
From: kris@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Viper Pro Drivers? Date: 6 Jul 1994 14:45:31 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <2veg2b$m28@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <1994Jul6.034025.3563@Rational.COM> Talus wrote the driver for this card. You can get the driver with a Viper Pro system from eCesys and JCIS and their resellers. .....................................kris Scott M. Hinnrichs (smh@Rational.com) wrote: : Anyone know how/if the Viper Pro is going to be supported under NSFIP 3.2? : Scott
From: fey@flowlab.mbt.washington.edu (Curran Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing from a network of NeXTs to TekColor printer Date: 6 Jul 1994 14:47:43 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <2veg6f$rda@news.u.washington.edu> We have a local Tektronix Phaser 220i which has an IP and EtherNet address. I use the following print command: lpr -PTekColor color_test.ps This appears to be successful to a point but an lpq call yields: phaser: bad queue name (check printcap entry) flowlab: Waiting for queue to be enabled on phaser Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1st fey 2 color_test.ps 404950 bytes Does anyone have experience with this printer or this type of problem? Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dbrad@ucdmath.ucdavis.edu (David Bradford) Subject: Daydream and the NeXT Laser Printer Message-ID: <CsIxuM.3Do@ucdavis.edu> Summary: How to print to the Laser Printer Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: UCD Department of Mathematics, Davis CA Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 15:03:58 GMT I have done all the standard apple things like trying to choose the Laser Printer (no Icon for NeXT in the printer panel ). How does one get the laser printer to work?? David
From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster and MSS Drivers Date: 6 Jul 1994 15:42:29 GMT Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vejd5$b91@nef.ens.fr> I have a card that claims to be a Microsoft sound system card, with a "SoundBlaster" compatibility. BUT, NextStep says "cannot program CODEC" during boot if I declare MSS in Configure... Any driver for Sound Blaster, to try ? just in case? Thanx! -- Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr> LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS on notebooks (solution) Date: 6 Jul 1994 15:48:09 GMT Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vejnp$bcp@nef.ens.fr> References: <CsEMI6.DuJ@spcuna.spc.edu> We got one from NSP (nsp@world.std.com, they know how to configure it and they install NextStep). It is basically a Sager 9200, with 500Mb, DX4/100Mhz, 20Mb Ram (up to 36). IT "flies" :-) It is light It has sound (but did not yert found out how to use it :-( ) It has a 25mm centered trackball It has a removable hard drive It has a PCMCIA level IV It has 1Mb Vram It has LocalBus It has a LocalBus docking station It is cheap (but I wont post the price... netiquette ...) :-) I am pretty pretty happy with it: it is the "final" machine!!!! (too bad we did not have the money to get it with an active matrix screen :-)) Well, I was dreaming of a PowerBook beater ... I found it ... --Roberto P.S.: if you want a longer report, mail me. If I get more than 10 requests, I will post it ... In article <CsEMI6.DuJ@spcuna.spc.edu> root@net23.com (Operator) writes: > Douglas R. Davidson (drd@physics10) wrote: > : This may be a faq, but I am thinking of getting a notebook > : sized machine to run Nextstep on. Does anyone have any > : experiences, good or bad, that they would like to share? > : E.g., suitable machines, horror stories, warnings that the > : whole thing is a bad idea, etc. Also, since these machines > : generally do not have SCSI, I will probably have to get it > : preloaded with Nextstep from a Next-friendly dealer; any > : recommendations for these? Thanks in advance, > > : Douglas Davidson (drd@physics.berkeley.edu) > > I'd like to see this too. > Nick > > -- > Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider > razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area > Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" > Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info > To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com -- Roberto Di Cosmo <dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr> LIENS Ecole Normale Superieure 45, Rue d'Ulm 75005 Paris FRANCE
From: takken@leland.stanford.edu (Todd Takken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP 712 configuration (was: Canon object.station advertisement) Date: 4 Jul 1994 22:15:14 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <2va1li$m3e@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> References: <2v9o5u$o85@argo.unm.edu> In article <2v9o5u$o85@argo.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) writes: > The minimal configuration on a Gecko requires you to buy a 15" monitor, > 260 meg hard drive, and 16 megs of memory. This isn't the case. Shortly before NextExpo, I received a price quote from Igor Klimenko <igor@seanet.com> on an HP 712 with no monitor and no hard drive. I was interested in this configuration because I already have a 21" multisync monitor and 1.7 GB SCSI hard drive with my colorstation. I have since decided not to buy an HP now because of the lack of available software. However, when I do buy, I will likely contact Igor again and get his current price on a monitorless, diskless 712. Here are the prices I was quoted, with a student discount factored in: > 712/60 H base Cell 1,772.25 > Memory 32 Mb Set 1,485.00 > High res. graphics kit (VRAM) 340.00 (enables 1280x1024 res., > but not necessary) > Localization kit (mouse included) 89.25 > HP 3,5" floppy disk drive 106.50 > Total: 3,793.00 > > For a system with 16MB RAM deduct $790.00 -- Todd Takken takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch). Date: 4 Jul 94 11:09:04 GMT Organization: IGD Darmstadt Message-ID: <neuss.773320144@budlight> References: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no> <2v3tg2$5o8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) writes: >edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: >>My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about >>_impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch >>manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either: >> >How long does a mouse switch last? My left one lasted about three years and >recently went out. I took the mouse apart and swapped the two switches in >hopes that it will last another 3 years. These switches are really easy to get, even here in germany. Check out stores with electronic parts. And they're cheap, too. Chris -- "I ride a tandem with the random.." Christian Neuss # Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Wilhelminenstr.7 # 64283 Darmstadt # Germany e-mail: neuss@igd.fhg.de finger: neuss@wildturkey.igd.fhg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement Message-ID: <1994Jul4.233713.18989@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <2v9o5u$o85@argo.unm.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 23:37:13 GMT In article <2v9o5u$o85@argo.unm.edu> klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) writes: >> >> >>The gecko is a low-cost but well-built and reliable machine. Graphics, sound >>and the built-in mpeg work extremely well. The SCSI subsystem is fast. On Umm, let's nip this one in the bud right now, shall we? The "built-in mpeg" consists of a couple of instructions in the PA-RIS 7100 for doing 16 bit moves fast. This is to move 16 bit video from the main processor memory on to the screen. It's not clear that NeXT is using this (not saying they they aren't, it just didn't sound at Expo like they already had), and since I have yet to see a NEXTIME demo on an HP, I think no one here that is able to answer will... But, again, the touted "built-in MPEG support" on HP-712 consists of a few extra instructions in the chip, and while HP has software under HP-UX which takes advantage of this, I know of no reason (and given that I have a 735 stuffed with memory, boy would I like to be wrong) to mention this in relation to NEXTSTEP. >>For 90% of what most people do with their NeXTStep machines, the gecko is >>cheap and pretty darn fast. I'd heartily recommend it. >> No argument there. It looks like a nice machine. -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jkute@fnbc.com (Jon Kutemeier) Subject: ET4000W32 driver and Dell 466/L Message-ID: <JKUTE.94Jun30085259@tnd88.fnbc.com> Sender: news@fnbc.com Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago, IL Distribution: global Date: 30 Jun 1994 13:52:59 GMT Has anyone been able to get the new ET4000W32i driver from NeXT to work on a Dell 466/L? I've installed the driver, set it up in Configure.app, chose a fairly simple resolution to try out (640x480 8 bit grey) and rebooted. It seemed to recognize everything fine, all the startup messages looked good, but when it came time to display the login panel, I would get no video signal whatsoever. My monitor is a multisync and more than able to handle any of the frequencies listed. I've have only 1 meg VRAM, but I don't think that is the problem. So, any words of wisdom out there? Or am I still stuck in 1024x768 2 bit grey mode? Thanks. -Jon jkute@fnbc.com
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 90mhz Pentium vs HP Gecko 712 Date: 5 Jul 1994 01:41:09 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2vadnl$uh@eps.com> I know NeXTStep is still not officially released yet for HP, but from what people have experienced, is an HP 712 going to be faster than a 90mhz Pentium box with a new 64bit PCI video board? WHat I'm looking for is not just becnhmark results, but does it look and feel faster.. Or is that in the eye of the beholder!! -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications NeXTmail OK
From: sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Sean O. Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch). Date: 5 Jul 1994 02:11:25 GMT Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <2vafgd$gst@hamblin.math.byu.edu> References: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no> <2v6vqi$a6v@runner.uucp> Richard Ruth (richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu) wrote: : Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : : My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about : : _impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch : : manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either: : : a. a new NeXT mouse. : : b. a used NeXT mouse : : c. a microswitch (the factory one is: 1668RAE D2F-01, made by Omron, Japan) : : d. suggestions (maybe other third party mice will work?) I have personally replaced those switches. They're standard microswitches that are a breeze to get anywhere (you don't need the exact model, just one close enough as there aren't any special electrical characteristics to a switch. :-) Most electronic supply houses should be able to get one for you-- just show them your old one on the board inside your mouse. If you like, you can rip one out of most older Logitech mice. Can't say if they're still being used in these mice, but they used to be. One tricky part: the switches are very difficult to desolder, as they've got up to 6 "feet" soldered onto the board. Another thing of note: these switches have had their metal levers removed. The microswitch you buy will have the metal lever attached to it. The one in the mouse, as you will note, does not. Just carefully remove the lever from the new microswitch with some tweezers before soldering it onto the board. And remember to orient the switch the same way as the old one! Overall, a pretty easy item to fix. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Sean Luke This signature no verb | | sean@digaudio.byu.edu ,,, U Maryland CS Grad | | sean@zapotec.math.byu.edu (o o) School this September | +------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+
From: dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors? Date: 5 Jul 1994 04:27:18 GMT Organization: Computer and Network Services, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <2vanf6$8j9@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <1994Jul1.054517.25920@news.media.mit.edu> <2v1mco$gct@usenet.rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: >wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: >> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes: >> >> Has there been any talk from NeXT about supporting multiple >> >> processors under NeXTSTEP? >> >> >> >> At the "Meet the Engineers" dev talk I believe they said that >> the SPARC port would support MP in the first release. >And if my memory serves me right (which is something of a gamble), >Canon was expecting to release some object.stations with two >Pentium chips in them. That was also expected in the fall, I >believe, so maybe it's on for NS-3.3. Are we sure that the Sun MP support is for the native NEXTSTEP port, or just for the OpenStep work? Naturally, Solaris already does SMP on SPARC hardware, so OpenStep on Solaris will get SMP for free. A theory for the dual-Pentium object.station is that one processor will get the window server, while the other processor handles everything else. Isn't this essentially what the ND did? I have a hard time believing NeXT would either want to or be able to roll full SMP support into NS for a "mere" 3.3 release, even given that they don't have to do the lead grunt-work on Mach, and could leverage a lot off 3.0. I've used DG/UX, SCO and Solaris on SMP boxes, and they all have or their problems. It's not a trivial issue. Far better for NeXT to spend its time on other things than working on SMP support, unless it can be truly provided for free in a very robust implementation. Anybody who *really* needs SMP will be able to get it via PDO, OpenStep/Solaris, or OpenStep/Alpha. In fact, with PDO, I guess I have a hard time seeing the need for SMP with the front-end itself. Why not just use PDO to dump the compute load on a big SMP server, and leave a uni-processor workstation with the front-end work? Isn't this what DO is all about? Royce Howland dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (wife's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: twetzel1@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Tim Wetzel ) Subject: FIMI monitor goes zombie Message-ID: <CDCQB02K@gwdu03.gwdg.de> Keywords: FIMI monitor color distortion arcing Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System) Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:47:14 GMT Hi, this weekend my FIMI monitor (FIMI 17" color MegaPixel) seemed to exhibit self-repairing behaviour: :-o After a sharp blow from inside the monitor, there still was an image visible, but the colors were severely distorted, plus some spatial distortions (see below for exact symptoms). (thesis due shortly --> [self panic]) Howewer, when I repowered the monitor the following day, the image was in perfect order again (as far as the notorious FIMI permits). A technician suggested that the blow was caused by an arc, temporarily affecting the tuning of some other circuits, thereby producing the color distortions. After poweroff and overnight discharge, everything would be back to normal. The effect might be facilitated by the hot and damp weather we have currently. Has anyone seen something like this? Tends this to be repeating, does it permanent damage? While I'm at it, the monitor has (and had before) a minor color distortion (described below). Is there an expert in FIMI readjusting who sees an easy way to get it corrected (by a generic monitor/tv technician)? Should I have to replace the monitor I probably would connect a generic multi-frequency monitor via 13W3/RGB adaptor. Is there a way to make my turbo slab use the ADB refresh rate (72Hz) in this case rather than the standard non-ADB 68Hz? (I have a non-ADB soundbox and keyboard, but an ADB monitor cable.) In the Owner's Guide Reference, pin 7 of the color slab display connector is shown to carry an "ADB" signal... Thanks in advance, Timm _Please_ respond by Email, my newsfeed is limited to a maximum of 5% of the news volume. If interesting info shows up, I'll summarize. Detailed description of symptoms: temporary distortion: roughly concentric areas of color aberrations: light blue instead of red in the center, light green instead of red in the exterior area, some vertical aberration of the image in the middle upper and lower edges, small outfocused area in the upper left. small permanent distortion: a small blue shadow some 3mm left of a hard black-white contrast. This is hardly noticeable under NEXTSTEP, but the (X windows) xclock pointers or xeyes have a noticeable blue shadow. Moreover, the standard X background b/w pattern has a green-yellowish appearance (also the vanilla X scrollbars). The effect is very constant over the whole vertical and horizontal display area, and it shows up suddenly (not gradually) some minutes after powerup. Moreover, there are (rare) situations after warmup when this distortion disappears completely. The monitor is part of a used system, and it is visible that electrical and mechanical components of the monitor have already been readjusted (resealed trimmers and tube assy chainwheels).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors? Message-ID: <1994Jul5.062540.24893@news.media.mit.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory References: <1994Jul1.054517.25920@news.media.mit.edu> <2v1mco$gct@usenet.rpi.edu> <2vanf6$8j9@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 06:25:40 GMT In article <2vanf6$8j9@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> dhowland@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Deborah Howland) writes: >>gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes: >> >>>wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes: >>>> sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes: >>>> >> Has there been any talk from NeXT about supporting multiple >>>> >> processors under NeXTSTEP? >>>> >> >>>> >>>> At the "Meet the Engineers" dev talk I believe they said that >>>> the SPARC port would support MP in the first release. >> >>>And if my memory serves me right (which is something of a gamble), >>>Canon was expecting to release some object.stations with two >>>Pentium chips in them. That was also expected in the fall, I >>>believe, so maybe it's on for NS-3.3. >> >>Are we sure that the Sun MP support is for the native NEXTSTEP >>port, or just for the OpenStep work? Naturally, Solaris already >>does SMP on SPARC hardware, so OpenStep on Solaris will get SMP >>for free. >> The impression I got from the answer was that it was indeed for the native NEXTSTEP port. >>I have a hard time believing NeXT would either want to or be able to >>roll full SMP support into NS for a "mere" 3.3 release, even given >>that they don't have to do the lead grunt-work on Mach, and could >>leverage a lot off 3.0. I've used DG/UX, SCO and Solaris on SMP >>boxes, and they all have or their problems. It's not a trivial issue. >>Far better for NeXT to spend its time on other things than working on >>SMP support, unless it can be truly provided for free in a very >>robust implementation. I've used my own share of SMP in various forms (I used to hack CM5s at Thinking Machines, easily the coolest SMP machine on the planet), and I actually have faith that NeXT has more than enough talent to get it out there is there is a need... >> >>Anybody who *really* needs SMP will be able to get it via PDO, >>OpenStep/Solaris, or OpenStep/Alpha. In fact, with PDO, I guess I >>have a hard time seeing the need for SMP with the front-end itself. >>Why not just use PDO to dump the compute load on a big SMP server, >>and leave a uni-processor workstation with the front-end work? >>Isn't this what DO is all about? >> Well, yea, but the first rule of parallel programming (at least in my somewhat tattered copy...) is that computation and communication are on opposite ends of a seesaw, and a large part of the fulcrum is network latency. There are many different kinds of apps, some SIMD, some MIMD, some SPMD, and various kinds that wear different masks at different times. Sure, you can write an app that cries out for low message latency in a pure PDO environment, and it will probably work fine on a LAN, but if it was intra-machine IPC as opposed to layered on top of TCP, oh joy... Anyway, given NeXT's current focus, I'm sure if there will be aggressive SMP support in NS/SPARC, it's because some customer somewhere has a need (that, or the engineers finally got sick of not having it out there...). -- --> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu --> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group --> 20 Ames St. E15-023G -- (617) 547-0563 (day office) --> Cambridge, MA 02139 -- (617) 253-0663 (night office)
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does the Seagate Barracuda do HP NeXTSTEP? Date: 5 Jul 1994 13:50:53 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <2vboft$pl8@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Hello, Given the rumors that all SCSI drives are not the same when it comes to the Gecko, a friend asked me to post the query.... I would like to know if the Barracuda (seagate disk drive) works with HP-NEXTSTEP. Could you post a quiry to the net regarding this? Thanks, ed. PS the stats are: 2 GBytes Barracuda (seagate) internal: 1679.00 external: 1779.00 seek time 6.9ms 7200 rpm scsi controller: "SCSI II fast" Since he's chompin' at the bit to buy himself a Gecko (although, I think he's fantasizing about the 735 and its 100 gadzillion MFLOPS ;), can anybody help him out? Mark. -- Mark Kotanchek Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB Applied Research Lab/Penn State P.O. Box 30 State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: jeffb@audiolab.uwaterloo.ca (Jeff Bamford) Subject: Re: [Q]:How to format a bootable floppy w/ PLI 2.88m external drive Message-ID: <CsGyIK.13H@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo References: <2va6un$obp@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 13:23:07 GMT In article <2va6un$obp@lawelawe-f0.mrtc.maui.com>, Dan Bigelow <danno@maui.com> wrote: > >Question : > >I've got an old BLACK 030 cube with an external PLI 2.88M SCSI >drive that I would like to use to create a 'CD-ROM smart' bootable >floppy in case my internal HD goes and I need to 'boot' from >my CD-ROMS and rebuild... >The 'BootFloppy' packages I've tried need the int floppy (/dev/rfd0a), >and doesn't like the PLI drive (/dev/rsd1a) - some 'front porch' >error while formatting. I have also tried to format floppies with that external drive (albeit not for booting) and I get the same error. I haven't been able to track down the problem. Its either a problem with NS 3.2 or I'm missing a valid disktab for the floppy. I've crossposted this to hardware, maybe someone remembers over there. >--danno@maui.com -- *************************************************************************** * Jeff Bamford jsbamford@uwaterloo.ca -- NeXT Mail welcome * ***************************************************************************
From: traderdec@aol.com (TraderDec) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will NeXTstep be on the PowerPC platform Date: 5 Jul 1994 10:20:06 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2vbq6m$pt@search01.news.aol.com> does anyone know
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyQuest Date: 5 Jul 1994 12:18:38 -0500 Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu Message-ID: <9407051605.AA00807@hurka> In article <2uupil$k4@wolfy.ina.fr> Gerard Iglesias writes: >Can I read SyQuest Dos formatted disk on a NeXT station or NS/FIP ? Yes, you can at least on NS/FIP. You only need the Dos file system patch (NeXTanswers #1608). Best regards, Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz
From: mogo@MCS.COM (Michael J. McGonagle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory for NeXTStation Turbo Date: 5 Jul 1994 13:13:52 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Subscriber Account, Chicago's First Public-Access Internet! Message-ID: <2vc7t0$alo@Venus.mcs.com> Does anyone know where and what kinds of memory are still available for the NeXTstation Turbo 68040 machine. I have heard that some macintosh chips work, but I don't know the numbers for identifying the chips by. I would appreciate email responses. mogo@venus.mcs.com (no NeXT-mail, yet!) Thanks for the assistance. Michael J McGonagle
From: adguys@aol.com (Adguys) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: cannon email address -- objectstation inquiries Date: 5 Jul 1994 14:52:04 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: news@search01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <2vca4k$4g6@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2urc8g$m94@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> give them a call at 800 349 6007 ... for the time being it beats e-mail
From: Morgan P Hankins <mh7e+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pressing music CD's... Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:17:58 -0400 Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4i6P7ay00WB44og55z@andrew.cmu.edu> I have access to a Young Minds CD Studio and a Philips CD recorder and other things like a digitiser and digital mics...My question is, is their an easy to make a tape into a CD? I have lots of recordable CD, but I would think that I need some kind of information as to header files and track info. I know that _someone_ must have done this before and it seems like it should be an easy task. Please E-mail me with any help... -morgan
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch). Date: 2 Jul 1994 14:27:14 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2v3tg2$5o8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold) writes: >My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about >_impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch >manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either: > >a. a new NeXT mouse. >b. a used NeXT mouse >c. a microswitch (the factory one is: 1668RAE D2F-01, made by Omron, Japan) >d. suggestions (maybe other third party mice will work?) > >I have an original cube which has been upgraded several times, and >that includes the original keyboard (not ADB) and monitor series. > >For the moment I've configured Preferences to use the mouse as a >right handed one so I can still use the other button, but I'd like >to fix it before it dies completely. How long does a mouse switch last? My left one lasted about three years and recently went out. I took the mouse apart and swapped the two switches in hopes that it will last another 3 years. For advice on mice I would try contacting Dancing Bear Enterprises at +1-303-479-9101 (fax: +1-303-479-9442, email: tim@dancingbear.com). Jim Beauchamp
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Half life of black hardware? Date: 2 Jul 1994 14:49:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <2v3uq2$6i3@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2ut725$f83@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2uvtvk$of@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: >jdevlin@umich.edu (John Devlin) writes: > >>I have a Mono NeXTStation purchased new in the fall of 91. I am >>tempted to add more memory (20MB to 32MB) and an external 1GB hard >>disk (the internal disk is 200MB and very cramped). > >>QUESTION: Is it prudent to invest $1600 in this system? I am, in > >If your machine is 3 years old and you haven't had problems, you >probably won't. The first 2000 or so N4000A's sold had a defect (every >single one we got in our first shipment in '91 had it!), but they >went bad within about 6 months to a year. Dave Lemson ought to know, since he's been the administrator of a hundred or so NeXT's over the past few years. However, I've had my hands on about 6 of them for the past 3 years, and this is our record: 3 bad monochrome and 1 bad color display; 1 bad OD; 1 bad HD; 1 bad mouse, 1 marginal printer. Maybe we've had worse luck than most, but my gut feeling is that things will tend to go out as time progresses, and for good insurance for the longer run, one should buy a cheap backup machine for spare parts. You can't go wrong adding an external SCSI drive, though, as you can just transfer this to a different machine if your machine fails. Jim Beauchamp UIUC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gerti@BITart.sub.org (Gerd Knops) Subject: Trade 220V ZyXEL power supply for a 110V one... Message-ID: <CsBF1I.Fq@BITart.sub.org> Sender: usenet@BITart.sub.org Organization: BITart, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consulting Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 13:34:30 GMT Hi, I'm moving to the States, and need a 110V power supply for my ZyXEL. Anybody moving to a 220V country and willing to trade power supplies? Gerd
From: steve@eps.com (Steven Kornreich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Benchmark's for GW 2000 P5-90 w/h #9GXE64 PRO Date: 2 Jul 1994 18:29:35 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v4bmf$3h6@eps.com> Machine: Gateway P5-90 CPU/Speed/Cachesize: 90 mhz Pentium 256 cache, 32mb ram Videoadaptor: #9GXE64PRO 2mb vram Comment: 1152x864 16bit color Integer Performance: 126050 dhrystones/s (80.03 MIPS) Grafics Performance: 1.7970 (NXFactor 2.0) Not bad!! -- Steven Kornreich Kornreich Communications NeXTmail OK
#################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement Message-ID: <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 18:54:21 GMT <second try... first had some errors in it> In article <2v302k$k8@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: >Darcy BROCKBANK writes: > >>for $3995. If you want to move up into the 17" monitor, you >>have the shell out BUCKS. If you want to move up to a 17" >>monitor, you have to shell out MORE BUCKS. Large bucks. >>As in thousands to do both. > >Foo! Monitors costs the same for the HP and the object.station. >Hook up a 17" IBM 17P to either, for $1200. When I called HP and asked them if their hardware works with third party monitors, they said "no." Thier list price for the 17" monitor is $2,479 Canadian (1,770 US) which is expensive. My posting is based on this information. If the monitors *do* work properly with the HP hardware, then the person I talked to misinformed me. >By your calculations, the HP is cheaper, although it's missing 16MB of >RAM and 250MB of disk. I can get an *even*cheaper* PC by buying an empty box with no motherboard: that'll cost even less. It's a pretty useless comparison though. My point wasn't to compare a 16/250 machine to a 32/500 machine, and say that one was more expensive than the other. Rather, I wanted to show the base, cheapest HP machine, and assume that people have an idea how much it costs to upgrade that into an equivalent config, *then* realize how much more expensive it would be. If I had a 16/250 config. price from Canon, I'd have used that against the Gecko info. If you bring the configs up to equal footing, the HP system will be more expensive, offer a faster processor, and slower video (possibly! I can't say this for sure) than the Canon. I've dug up my HP price list, and here's a more apples-to-apples price comparison: HP price list: 712/60 32/525 (no monitor) == 9143 Canadian (6530 US) Canon price list: object.station 32/500 (no monitor) == 4600 US So, you could likely save money and waste time with both machines by buying RAM and disks from discount suppliers. However, I'm not sure HP will sell the machine diskless, or RAMless. Maybe they will. If someone can price out a 712/60 from HP USA, I'd be interested in knowing how much it comes to in the above config (32/500, no monitor), and in a diskless RAMless, monitorless config. - db -- I have a heart condition... if you hit me, it's murder. -- Withnail -- We are millionares! -- and I -- To you, we're not deep -- Housemartins -- A bit small for a share certificate -- Cleese -- Smoke me a kipper, skipper, I'll be back for breakfast. -- Ace Rimmer -- He's the tallest man by a dam site. -- Crow --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Subject: Re: Benchmark Results, 90mhz Pentium, Stealth 64 Message-ID: <CsB9J5.C6L@belly.in-berlin.de> Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de Organization: - none - References: <2v1eac$i58@u.cc.utah.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 11:35:28 GMT In article <2v1eac$i58@u.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang) writes: [...] > > : controller. Any suggestions on a good PCI SCSI controller for NeXTStep > : would be appreciated! > > > ASUS SC200 uses the NCR53C810, and is rumored to be compatible with the > Talus driver. It _is_ compatible. -- Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 18:09:57 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ei5SKpi00iUyA2M7VJ@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1994Jul2.181547.817@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 2-Jul-94 Re: Canon object.station ad.. by Darcy BROCKBANK: > So, you could likely save money and waste time with both machines by > buying from discount suppliers. However, I'm not sure HP will sell the > machine diskless, or RAMless. Maybe they will. If someone can price > out a 712/60 from HP USA, I'd be interested in knowing how much it > comes to in the above config (32/500, no monitor), and in a diskless > RAMless, monitorless config. Here's what CMU is offering (with student discount) for HP machines: List Special Price Each Price Each HP 712/60, 32 MB, 1 GB, 1.44 MB Floppy (SPECfp92= 79, SPECint92= 58, X-Mark93= 6.0) Configuration # 1 17" 1280x1024 Color Graphics $8,995 $4,947 Configuration # 2 20" 1280x1024 Color Graphics $10,595 $5,827 HP 712/80, 32 MB, 1 GB, 1.44 MB Floppy (SPECfp92= 122, SPECint92= 84, X-Mark93= 8.2) Configuration # 3 17" 1280x1024 Color Graphics $12,545 $6,273 Configuration # 4 20" 1280x1024 Color Graphics $14,145 $7,073 HP 715/100, 32 MB, 1 GB, 1.44 MB Floppy (SPECfp92= 137, SPECint92= 100, X-Mark93= 12.3) Configuration # 5 20" 1280x1024 Color Graphics $21,230 $9,554 Configuration # 6 20" 1280x1024/HyperCRX-24Z Graphics$28,230 $12,704 HP 735/125, 32 MB, 1 GB (SPECfp92= 201, SPECint92= 135, X-Mark93= 9.9) Configuration #7 20" 1280x1024 CRX Color Graphics $39,995 $17,998 While these numbers don't directly answer Darcy's question, they at least provide more data points for people to scope out what the various HP configurations will cost. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: New Hardware up and Running, BenchMarks? Message-ID: <CsCA03.2Lw@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <schwettCs6uxH.5Lt@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 00:43:14 GMT schwett@netcom.com wrote: : The system is a 90mhz Pentium (Micronics Motherboard), PCI bus, 32 MB RAM, : and a Diamond Stealth64 PCI Video Adapter with 4MB VRAM. Originally, it was : an ATi Graphics Pro Turbo which is now sitting on the shelf next to me since : the drivers are not available yet. : I suspect that the bottleneck here is the Adaptec 1542CF, which is connected : to a Fujitsu M2694 1gb SCSI-II drive. "DiskPerformance.app" gives me an : index of about 1.0, which seems pretty poor. : Any suggestions on benchmarks or possible PCI SCSI adapters? Talus makes a PCI SCSI driver. Also, they produce a PCI ATI driver of some sort. Email info@talus.com It is quite certain that the Adaptec 1542CF will be a significant bottleneck. On a Pentium, you should have an EISA (DPT) or PCI SCSI controller. ISA 16-bit just doesn't cut it. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: Re: NeXTIME and the SoundBlaster? Message-ID: <CsCGvy.BLu@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator) Organization: Carleton University References: <2up304$of8@news1.digex.net> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 03:11:58 GMT Scott Bender (sbender@harmony.digex.net) wrote: : When I use NeXTIME w/ the SoundBlaster driver installed, my system locks up. : Everything is fine without the driver. Any clues? The SoundBlaster driver does not do 16-bit sound, as I recall. The docs said you had to convert sounds before playing if they were 16-bit. It's probable that QT or NeXT's wavelet movies use 16-bit sound. --Chris Chris Saldanha -------------------------------------- Carleton University (Comp. Sci) |"The eternal silence of these infinite| chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | spaces terrifies me." -Blaise Pascal| csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) ------------------:-o-----------------
From: brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep? Date: 2 Jul 1994 09:11:37 -0400 Organization: Internet Access Cincinnati 513-887-8877 Message-ID: <2v3p29$t6b@great-miami.iac.net> References: <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com> <2v14u1$2p9@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> David Riley (riley@nextchair.csfac.uwlax.edu) wrote: : In article <2uu5lq$shi@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com : (William Shipley) writes: : > Yes there is. At the "Meet the Engineers" session at the NSExpo, the : > gentleman who does RISC ports stated that the HP disk drivers were so : highly : > optimized that a number of 3rd party hard disks don't work (because they : > advertise features that aren't implemented correctly), and in fact : > he said that NeXT is only certifying HP drives on HPs. : I'm sitting behind an HP 712/80 that shipped with a 1GB Seagate. : -- Dave Riley : -- Computer Science Professor : -- University of Wisconsin - La Crosse : -- La Crosse, WI 54601 Has HP/NeXT fixed the problem of color fringing problem on the Gecko yet? -- Brick Eksten Digital Processing Systems brick@iac.net
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXBench Results : 90MHZ Pentium + Stealth64 Date: 2 Jul 1994 11:22:57 +0100 Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2v3f61$3lm@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <schwettCs78Hx.E1F@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: benchmarks schwett@netcom.com writes: >Some clarification on the NXFactor score : does it take into account pixel >depth, or is it independent of this? The failry low 1.48 result would lead >me to believe that the hardware/software combo of the Stealth 64 is only >1.48 times faster than the NeXTStation Turbo that got 1.0, but the NeXT >was running in a 2bit mode, whereas I ran in a 32 bit mode. If I could run >the Stealth64 in a 2 bit mode, would I get something like 20+? >Am I misinterpreting the benchmarks? A bit. I don't estimate at what NXBench factor the Stealth64 would perform in 2 bit mode, but I can assure you that 1.48 means that your graphic performance really screams. I haven't read about a better mark yet. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hen1580@cs.rit.edu (Harry E Noel) Subject: question about serial cable for Black Message-ID: <1994Jul3.204548.11247@cs.rit.edu> Sender: news@cs.rit.edu (USENET News Admin) Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 20:45:48 GMT I have an epson epl-7500 (postscript) laser printer and I am trying to make a cable to work with the printer. The manual lists pinouts for a printer and an rs-232, but I need the pinouts for a rs-422. The null modem (minidin 8 to minidin 8) doesn't work. Any help is greatly appreciated. HN
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: play3401 for CD300? Date: 03 Jul 1994 10:53:15 GMT Organization: me organized? That's a joke! Distribution: world Message-ID: <ROBERT.94Jul3115315@steffi.demon.co.uk> Has anybody added Apple CD300 support to Carl Edman's play3401 yet? The only difference is in the way the CD300 uses the standard way of getting the data of the disk where as the Toshiba has it's own _easy_ way. -- "Real programmers don't create classes. They build hierarchies" (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) (ASCII for text only messages)
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tape Activity Blocks Disk I/O Date: 3 Jul 1994 23:23:10 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA Message-ID: <2v7h8u$n8@news.acns.nwu.edu> Gear: Gateway 4DX2 66V with integrated IDE controller 400 +Mb disk, Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller, Wangtek 6200HS 4mm DAT tape drive, Micropolis 1.8 Gig drive, 16Mb ram, ATI XLR video. NS 3.2 runs off the IDE drive (for present). System with up to date drivers where appropriate. Situtation: Performing backups of both drives using dump, to the same tape. Generally things work fine. As part of my backup procedure I use mt skip (fsf, rewind) around the tape to let me double check the dumps I placed on tape. I've noticed the system experience an I/O pause on some of these actions, particularly fsf (file system forward). The cursor spins, IDE activity light comes on steady until the requested operation is complete. Seems odd to have the system pause for operations like this unless the tape driver has begun to poll the scsi controller or for some reason the I/O queue gets locked out. The delays are brief (<<60 secs), probably because the DAT drive does a rather fast search for file marks. I don't recall these kinds of delays on Black Hardware with 8mm tapes (which are very stupid slow drives when positioning). So do we have another primitive NS driver or this there some obscure PC reason for this effect? Its not big problem, since I'm usually not on the machine when performing backups anyway. -- Jerry S. Weiss j-weiss@nwu.edu Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,sfnet.atk.nextstep Subject: NeXTstation heat dissipation? Date: 4 Jul 1994 04:01:16 +0300 Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland Sender: otto@network.cc.jyu.fi Message-ID: <OTTO.94Jul4040112@tukki.jyu.fi> I've tried leafing through all the documentation I have for my mono NeXTstation, but I haven't found this: how much heat production is it safe to place inside the slab case? I was thinking of replacing the (by todays standards) dinky internal 3.5" 100M boot drive with a 1G drive, but with the machine fully loaded with 32M of memory, I might be pushing a heat dissipation limit. Anyone have figures? Thanks! -- /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */ /* Mail: Cygn.k.7 E 46/FIN-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N 25.44E */ /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP 712/60 vs 90MHz Pentium for Nextstep? Date: 4 Jul 1994 04:10:12 GMT Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v8234$mkg@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <2v3p29$t6b@great-miami.iac.net> In article <2v3p29$t6b@great-miami.iac.net> brick@iac.net (Brick Eksten) writes: > Has HP/NeXT fixed the problem of color fringing problem on the Gecko yet? Since NEXTSTEP/HP has not been shipped in a production release, this isn't a question that could be answered at this time. The production release is 1 month away - we'll have to wait and see... -- Nathan "USENET" Janette Systems Manager, Brunger Lab, Dept MB&B, Yale Univ/HHMI, New Haven, CT PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Summary: Re: Trouble w/NSI 3.2 and Logitech Bus Mouse Message-ID: <1994Jul3.214434.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center References: <1994Jul1.170744.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 05:44:34 GMT A few days ago, I posted with a problem having to do with getting a Logitech Bus Mouse to work on NSI 3.2 (replacing a Microsoft Serial Mouse, which had been working). I'd like to thank the following people who either posted or sent me e-mail: Matt Kennel <mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu> George Fankhauser <fankhauser@uptime.ch> Jerry D. Pierce <jdpierc@netcom.com Matt's post was probably (well, should have been...see below) the most helpful. He pointed me to NeXT Answers 1594, NEXTSTEP In Focus, Winter 1994. The first topic there is "Broken Mouse After Install". The suggested fix is to use config=Default at the boot: prompt in order to get all three mouse drivers loaded. Then after a successful boot, to go into Configure.app and select the mouse driver you want, and reboot. Unfortunately, that didn't work for me because of a rather complex (to me) network configuration (yellow pages and all): the system hung after getting most of the way through the boot. Others suggested going into the configure app and changing the mouse driver, but hey, the mouse don't work, how am I supposed to open the application, let alone make selections, when the mouse is dead, like, totally? Well, I'm pretty new to NeXTStep and I'll bet there's a way to use keyboard substitutes for the mouse, but I didn't know them at the time and didn't have ready access to manuals. So... Turns out that the serial mouse was using the serial port of a serial/parallel card, and since the parallel port is being used, the card was still installed after I added the bus-mouse card. So I simply unplugged the bus mouse (probably not necessary), plugged in the serial mouse to its old port, and rebooted. Now with a functional mouse, I could go into Configure.app, add the Busmouse driver (and remove the Serialmouse driver), save the configuration, and shutdown the system. Unplugged the serial mouse, plugged in the bus mouse, rebooted, and now I'm a happy camper. :-) The lesson _I've_ learned is that, if you're anticipating a hardware change, make any needed configuration changes _before_ you shutdown. -Ken -- Dr. Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slac.Stanford.Edu SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98 | DECnet: 45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX) Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: (415) 926-2924 FAX: (415) 926-4335 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
From: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: WANTED: NeXT mouse (black) or part (switch). Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 3 Jul 1994 11:25:22 -0700 Organization: runner Message-ID: <2v6vqi$a6v@runner.uucp> References: <2uvibq$hg6@alf.uib.no> Thor Legvold (edmtl@alf.uib.no) wrote: : My original NeXT mouse just died (and I noticed how it is just about : _impossible_ to use a NeXT without a mouse...shorting the switch : manually everytime I needed a 'click') and I need either: : a. a new NeXT mouse. : b. a used NeXT mouse : c. a microswitch (the factory one is: 1668RAE D2F-01, made by Omron, Japan) : d. suggestions (maybe other third party mice will work?) I need to know about a replacement mouse, too. Please post (or e-mail me) the results thanks -- Richard richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (ok to send NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Problems with Cables.app Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 07:01:42 GMT Message-ID: <CsEM6v.DrB@spcuna.spc.edu> Hi. I'm running Cables.app on NS/FIP 3.2 and I am having a slight problem which makes it unusable The Shift-Numerals don't work (ie: "!, @, #, $, etc.) What's wrong??? -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: E1140090@bcit.bc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: QIC24 Tape Unit on NeXTStation? Date: 4 Jul 1994 07:10:23 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v8ckv$39s@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Keywords: QIC24 TAPE In comp.sys.next.hardware article <Cs8F1L.6G@euler.hnv.icem.de> you wrote: > I wonder if anyone got a QIC24 SCSI Tape Unit functioning with a black NeXT. > The one I have works fine on an SGI but never gets properly recognized at the NeXT. > Any insights? Don't know why... but I'm using a Tandberg 3660 250MB. Same problem. I use a demo copy of enTar to initialize the drive. This is an interm solution. Not wanting to use enTar, but I haven't figured how to get the OS to recognize the Tape yet. I hear people talking about a SCSITape device, but I'm not sure what that's about. I think "mt" might be on the right track, but I can't figure out how... Jason. E1140090@bcit.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Drivers for a HP 560C Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 07:05:43 GMT Message-ID: <CsEMDJ.Dtq@spcuna.spc.edu> Hi all. Are there drivers available to make the HP 560C deskjet color printer work with NS/FIP 3.2??? If so, where, how much if not free, and how to get them email replies Thanks in advance Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: root@net23.com (Operator) Subject: Re: NS on notebooks References: <2v1bht$c23@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@spcuna.spc.edu (Network News) Organization: Misconfigured client newsreader Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 07:08:29 GMT Message-ID: <CsEMI6.DuJ@spcuna.spc.edu> Douglas R. Davidson (drd@physics10) wrote: : This may be a faq, but I am thinking of getting a notebook : sized machine to run Nextstep on. Does anyone have any : experiences, good or bad, that they would like to share? : E.g., suitable machines, horror stories, warnings that the : whole thing is a bad idea, etc. Also, since these machines : generally do not have SCSI, I will probably have to get it : preloaded with Nextstep from a Next-friendly dealer; any : recommendations for these? Thanks in advance, : Douglas Davidson (drd@physics.berkeley.edu) I'd like to see this too. Nick -- Nick Jarecki | Network 23 - InterNet Services Provider razor@net23.com | (shell,FTP,WWW) in the New York/Metro area Voice: [917-424-8806] | Email "info@net23.com" Ask me about our Hamburgers | Telnet to net23.com, login:info To access our REVOLUTIONARY WWW server, point your client to http://net23.com
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX2 vs Gecko Date: 4 Jul 1994 03:39:19 GMT Organization: Palumbian Research Labs Message-ID: <2v8097$uh@marsu.tynet.sub.org> References: <2v1h81$oe@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Finton writes > I'm looking for a fast machine for NEXTSTEP. Actually, "fast" > to me means "faster than the DECstation 3100 on my desk," and > I think that would make a 486/DX2 "fast." But there's fast, and > there's *FAST*. > > I'm considering several configurations, and it would really help > my decision-making to know more about how they compare, performance- > wise. I'm considering the HP 712/60 with 24 MB RAM, as well as > either an eCesys 486/DX2 with 32 MB RAM, or possibly a Pentium > with 24 or 32 MB RAM. > > I'm looking for a feeling for just how much faster the Pentium > and the Gecko will be, and will that answer depend on the amount > of RAM? Will the 32 MB on the 486 make up somewhat for its slower > speed? I may be able to buy a used 486 system, so the lower price > is making me think twice about popping for the extra cash for the > Pentium or the Gecko. The question is: just how much performance > do I give up? And would the Gecko be happy with just 24 MB RAM? Definitely: No! Forget anything equipped with less than 32 MB if you want a *FAST* machine. This is true for a 486 or P5 system and inevitable for a HP712. -- /dev/ Markus Wenzel /usr/spool/mail/ mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org /etc/zoneinfo/ University of Stuttgart /bin/ps System administration, Consulting, Networking
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: kde@giotto.fokus.gmd.de (Klaus-Dietrich Engel) Subject: Help: IBM 0662-S12 as boot disk ????? Message-ID: <1994Jul4.064733.24473@fokus.gmd.de> Keywords: boot disk IBM Sender: news@fokus.gmd.de (News system) Organization: GMD-Fokus Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 06:47:33 GMT I had to replace my boot disk (the only disk in my b/w NeXtstation) by a new disk. I got an IBM 0662-S12 (1GB). We change it with the scsitools (byte 3 in page 0 from 31 to b1 and byte 5 from 0 to 21). We could initialize the disk (as second internal disk) in a cube and run BuildDisk on it without a problem. Than we changed the SCSI id from 5 to 1 and removed the other disk. The just build new disk did not spin up (we had the jumper 9-10 - auto start enable). So we could not use the disk as the only boot disk. When we have both disk in the cube (the old one with SCSI Id 1 and the new one with Id 0) we can boot from the new disk but we get some error message during the boot process but the process continued from the new disk and it seemed to work. The messages were: boot sd(0,0,0)sdmach more then ones: SCSI unexpected msg:1 sc Unexpected msg afterwards: boot sd(0,0,0) sdmach booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 ??????? blk0 boot: sd()sdmach then 3 times: sc: SCSI unexpected msg sd: target 0 lun 0 opcode 18 sd: addr 0x43bbf10 bcount 66 rdflag 1 sd: sdstatus sdstate 0 rsid 66 sc: s5c state 7 status 0x87 sc: intrstatus 0x8 seqstep 0x4 sc: fifo level = 0 transfer count 0 sc: command 0x10 config 0x57 continuation as normal! Does anybody have an idea whatelse to change or does this type of disk not work as boot device? ___________________________________________________________________ Klaus-D. Engel Address : Research Institute for Open Communication Systems GMD FOKUS, Hardenbergplatz 2, D-10623 Berlin, Germany Phone : ++49 / (0)30 / 254 99 - 217
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX2 vs Gecko Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 10:01:40 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <oi61N4i00iUzI11FEM@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <2v8097$uh@marsu.tynet.sub.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 4-Jul-94 Re: DX2 vs Gecko by Markus Wenzel@marsu.tyne > > do I give up? And would the Gecko be happy with just 24 MB RAM? > > Definitely: No! Forget anything equipped with less than 32 MB if you > want a *FAST* machine. This is true for a 486 or P5 system and > inevitable for a HP712. Agree. RAM is the cheapest mechanism by which you can improve the performance of your system. Don't shortchange a powerful machine by not giving it enough memory. -Chuck Charles William Swiger - WhiteLight Systems | "All the world's a stage, and" --------------------------------------------+ "we are merely players...." AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | "Semper ubi sub ubi."
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors? Date: 4 Jul 1994 15:02:48 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v98ao$kul@sundog.tiac.net> References: <2v2jmd$ccm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> In article <2v2jmd$ccm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > > He sure did. He also mentioned that they would try to support Sun's > fast ethernet hardware (100 Mb/s) in the first release as well, in > response to a question I asked about HPs and FDDI support. > How about Sun's ATM card. Are they supporting it? shigeru
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors? Date: 4 Jul 1994 15:02:56 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v98b0$kum@sundog.tiac.net> References: <2v2jmd$ccm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> In article <2v2jmd$ccm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > > He sure did. He also mentioned that they would try to support Sun's > fast ethernet hardware (100 Mb/s) in the first release as well, in > response to a question I asked about HPs and FDDI support. > How about Sun's ATM card. Are they supporting it? shigeru
From: shigeru@lamb.tiac.net (ShigeruKAWAGUCHI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and Multiple Processors? Date: 4 Jul 1994 15:03:40 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Distribution: world Message-ID: <2v98cc$kun@sundog.tiac.net> References: <2v2jmd$ccm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> In article <2v2jmd$ccm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes: > > He sure did. He also mentioned that they would try to support Sun's > fast ethernet hardware (100 Mb/s) in the first release as well, in > response to a question I asked about HPs and FDDI support. > How about Sun's ATM card. Are they supporting it? shigeru
From: lars@cognition.iig.uni-freiburg.de (Lars Konieczny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for Adaptec 2940? Date: 4 Jul 1994 14:55:14 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Message-ID: <2v97si$q77@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Hi, Does anybody know if there is a driver for the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller available (or planned)? - Lars =========================================================== Lars Konieczny Center for Cognitive Science Institute of Computer Science and Social Research University of Freiburg, Germany Friedrichstr. 50
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: miro Crystal 20SD driver Date: 4 Jul 1994 15:41:55 GMT Organization: Computer Center, National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan Message-ID: <2v9ak3$fhj@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> Hi, Does anyone know where to get the miro Crystal 20SD driver for NS/intel? If you have any information, please email me. Thanks a lot TC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: stephan@tms-gmbh.de Subject: Re: Problem with BusLogic BT-445S SCSI Ctrl Message-ID: <CsEuC5.pE@tms-gmbh.de> Sender: usenet@tms-gmbh.de Organization: tms GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <2v2b50$nqa@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 09:57:40 GMT In article <2v2b50$nqa@gap.cco.caltech.edu> jcs@alumni.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson) writes: > Anybody out there successfully installed NEXTSTEP > with above mentioned > SCSI controller on a VL-BUS slot? I followed the > direction in the NextAnswer > doc., including getting the right Adaptec1542B driver, > > the right BIOS and the > firmware version for the BusLogic controller, but I > am still stuck. I get the message, > > ": thread: waitforInterrupt: returns -735" > > repeatedly on the screen. The NextAnswer doc suggests > typing Control-A from > the boot prompt to set something in the Adaptec SCSISelect > Utility, but the utility > does not get invoked. If the procedure described in NextAnswer 1541_Adaptec_Driver_Related_Problems.rtf don't work then try the driver on ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/drivers Files: BusLogicBT445S.tar.Z BusLogicBT445S.tar.README Create a disk with the new BusLogic driver (a disk with '/usr/Devices/BusLogicXXX.config'). Install NeXTSTEP with the new driver. When the message ": thread: waitforInterrupt: returns -735" remains then remove the entry 'Adaptec1542B' from the Default.table in the directory '/usr/Devices/System.config': - boot NeXTSTEP from cd-rom - at the boot prompt type: mach_kernel -s "Boot Drivers"="PS2Keyboard" - do the normal installation procedure - type: driverLoader D=Floppy - type: mount -n /dev/sd0a /hd - type: cd /hd/usr/Devices/System.config - type: sed 's/Adaptec1542B//' < Default.table > t - type: mv t Default.table - type: reboot Now it should work. Stephan ---- stephan@tms-gmbh.de
From: chris@clubside.digex.net (Chris Rowley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Other Ethernet Cards Date: 4 Jul 1994 16:24:37 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA Message-ID: <2v9d45$mqp@news1.digex.net> Does anyone have a definitive list of wierdo cards that the NeXT drivers support for Ethernet? Is there support for the Etherlink II series? How about all those cheap clones that cost $100 at CompUSA? Chris ------------- Home of 'Clubside', the only weekly obscenity-filled rag on the face of the Earth. Free most everywhere (and FTPable soon!). Write us at 'editor@clubside.digex.net' for more info. We love NeXT-Mail, oh-e-oh. ------------- "Mrs. Crane, I'm looking at you... you wore green so you could hide." -- Carl, 'Caddyshack'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) Subject: Re: NS on notebooks Message-ID: <CsFDEB.ErA@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services References: <2v1bht$c23@agate.berkeley.edu> <CsEMI6.DuJ@spcuna.spc.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 16:46:57 GMT I use an Austin with a DX2/66. It can hold a 550MB harddrive and up to 32MB of ram and run about an hour on a battery with some disk activity. (2.5 hours if you play Solitaire on a flight from NJ to Minneapolis.) It doesn't have scsi but there are two ways to deal with that. 1. have the dealer preload 2. insist that you get a docking station that works (one with the SIS chipset) The dealer I work with can preload it and be somewhat competive with pricing. The Computer Place (800 450 5731), ask for Kevin or Perry. Perry, the owner, carries one loaded with NS around with him so they know what's going on. peter -- Always looking for a handy place to nap... peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peisch@cfa.org
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Canon object.station advertisement Date: 4 Jul 1994 13:33:18 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <2v9o5u$o85@argo.unm.edu> References: <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <1994Jul2.185421.3097@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, Darcy BROCKBANK <samurai@cs.mcgill.ca> wrote: ><second try... first had some errors in it> > >In article <2v302k$k8@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@yucca.omnigroup.com (William Shipley) writes: >>Darcy BROCKBANK writes: >> >>>for $3995. If you want to move up into the 17" monitor, you >>>have the shell out BUCKS. If you want to move up to a 17" >>>monitor, you have to shell out MORE BUCKS. Large bucks. >>>As in thousands to do both. [munch] >Rather, I wanted to show the base, cheapest HP machine, and assume >that people have an idea how much it costs to upgrade that into an >equivalent config, *then* realize how much more expensive it would be. >If I had a 16/250 config. price from Canon, I'd have used that against >the Gecko info. > >If you bring the configs up to equal footing, the HP system >will be more expensive, offer a faster processor, and slower video >(possibly! I can't say this for sure) than the Canon. I've dug up my >HP price list, and here's a more apples-to-apples price comparison: > The minimal configuration on a Gecko requires you to buy a 15" monitor, 260 meg hard drive, and 16 megs of memory. The gecko I've been evaluating has a little more than this, but my local HP dealer quoted me $3500 for the entry level system. List is $3995. Add 16 megs of memory ~$500 decent 1g drive ~$750 NEC 17" monitor ~$1000 and you get approximately $5750 for a nice gecko system (32/1g/17"). I like my gecko. I have the overpriced HP 20" monitor, but I think the NEC is easily as good in whatever size you buy. Installing hard drives is not a problem because you're using NeXTStep (point, click, <cr>, wait, done). The tradeoffs are, as I see them: The gecko is a low-cost but well-built and reliable machine. Graphics, sound and the built-in mpeg work extremely well. The SCSI subsystem is fast. On the minus side, it only has one serial port (IBM style 9 pin). For an office machine, the machine does just great, but the machine cannot replace my cube at home because, sniff, it doesn't have RS-422 serial ports and will not accept my MIDI connector (this won't be a gripe for most people). It doesn't have an autoeject floppy, but then neither do most PCs. For 90% of what most people do with their NeXTStep machines, the gecko is cheap and pretty darn fast. I'd heartily recommend it. Regarding the object.station, I had an interesting experience at the expo that maybe someone can explain. My primary benchmark for a clone-based NeXTStep platform is NeXTtime. Without carrying benchmarks around with me, NeXTtime tells me a little about cpu speed and throughput (I think). I tried the NEC P60 with 64 megs, a DPT SCSI subsystem and a Miro PCI display card, and I had 4 beautiful NeXTtime windows running at the same time, one of them double-size. It was the best NeXTtime machine I'd ever used. I walked over to the Canon booth and tried the object.station 41. Granted it had only 32 megs of memory, but the results were far, far slower using the same kind of experiment. CPU speeds were approximately comparable, and the object.station supposedly should have had faster video. So why didn't it? Did the memory make that much of a difference, or is the miro crystal 20 (I think) so great a card that it outpowered the object.station? Anybody have a clue? I can think of a few possible reasons: memory, higher cpu-to-video speed on the NEC system, better SCSI subsystem. But I was surprised. Dave
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave "CIRT Boy" Klingler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Probs with Seagate & NS = Panic's Date: 4 Jul 1994 13:40:00 -0600 Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <2v9oig$1qr5@argo.unm.edu> References: <Cs8zyL.8BG@softpac.com.au> Keywords: seagate, problem,panic In article <Cs8zyL.8BG@softpac.com.au>, Dave THOMAS <dave@softpac.com.au> wrote: >We are having problems with Seagate drives, which we now suspect may be >related to the NeXTSTEP operating environment. It seems only to occur with >certain drives, not all. We have checked out different revisions of >firmware, different controllers and are unable to find any problem with >these or the drives, except when we load NeXTSTEP. Is there a known >problem with Seagate Drives? What do the error messages actually mean? > I've been tearing my hair out trying to get an ST11200N working on my cube. I've tried all three termination options, active termination, and disabling parity. I'd be happy to get some answers, too. The error messages basically mean that the drive is not working on your system. You have some corrupted files that the system needs in order to boot. The file system on my drive (and I think you have the same problem) gets corrupted on the fly. I don't have any great suggestions, except that you can't trust those systems until you get the problem licked. Please let me know if you do. Dave
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